Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated:
1
00:00:11,759 --> 00:00:14,830
[Music]
2
00:00:22,559 --> 00:00:25,729
[Applause]
3
00:00:30,489 --> 00:00:34,710
[Music]
4
00:00:39,549 --> 00:00:42,750
[Music]
5
00:00:56,259 --> 00:01:02,118
[Music]
6
00:01:35,140 --> 00:01:38,299
[Music]
7
00:01:38,450 --> 00:01:43,320
early 80s in Flint Michigan we looked
8
00:01:41,879 --> 00:01:45,119
like we were on our way to writing
9
00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:48,509
festival you know we had like denim
10
00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:50,630
vests with patches all over them but at
11
00:01:48,510 --> 00:01:52,950
the same time we were all pretty nerdy
12
00:01:50,629 --> 00:01:54,810
like we weren't really into like
13
00:01:52,950 --> 00:01:56,730
heavy-duty drugs or anything like that
14
00:01:54,810 --> 00:01:58,799
we smoked pot and drank and stuff but we
15
00:01:56,730 --> 00:02:00,570
weren't like we weren't to create we did
16
00:01:58,799 --> 00:02:02,189
acid once in a while so it was kind of
17
00:02:00,569 --> 00:02:05,929
like we were just as nerdy as kids that
18
00:02:02,189 --> 00:02:05,929
were into Star Wars but we were into
19
00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:11,319
and that came over one day and he was
20
00:02:09,490 --> 00:02:12,909
like cool then I'm like yeah buy a
21
00:02:11,319 --> 00:02:15,099
guitar dude we'll start a band and he
22
00:02:12,909 --> 00:02:16,389
bought a guitar like within like a month
23
00:02:15,099 --> 00:02:19,710
he was one of those people that just
24
00:02:16,389 --> 00:02:19,709
took to it like a moth to a flame
25
00:02:21,210 --> 00:02:24,319
[Music]
26
00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:31,800
we found a copy of his fanzine called
27
00:02:28,729 --> 00:02:33,238
sledgehammer press we recorded our stuff
28
00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,920
and sent it out and that was the first
29
00:02:33,239 --> 00:02:36,840
time we ever recorded anything where we
30
00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:39,000
it wasn't we didn't have a studio but we
31
00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,830
did like do several takes and edited
32
00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:43,680
together three really good basement
33
00:02:40,830 --> 00:02:45,450
recordings that was the first lineup of
34
00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:48,590
the band pretty much that was where we
35
00:02:45,449 --> 00:02:48,589
started calling it genocide
36
00:02:49,199 --> 00:02:55,238
[Music]
37
00:02:52,568 --> 00:02:58,238
I got this book for for Christmas when I
38
00:02:55,239 --> 00:03:00,489
was a kid there was a little bit in here
39
00:02:58,239 --> 00:03:03,628
about Roman Polanski's repulsion and
40
00:03:00,489 --> 00:03:06,878
this photo I found it to be really
41
00:03:03,628 --> 00:03:09,370
haunting we started getting letters from
42
00:03:06,878 --> 00:03:11,709
other bands that were called genocide
43
00:03:09,370 --> 00:03:14,049
and you know obviously the name genocide
44
00:03:11,709 --> 00:03:15,968
is a horrible name I was like cool this
45
00:03:14,049 --> 00:03:17,240
is a good opportunity we have to change
46
00:03:15,968 --> 00:03:20,348
the name
47
00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,349
[Music]
48
00:03:23,020 --> 00:03:27,400
when I actually heard repulsion for the
49
00:03:25,210 --> 00:03:30,159
first time it blew my mind because I was
50
00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,450
like oh my god it's okay for me to play
51
00:03:30,159 --> 00:03:33,099
like this like I thought it was the
52
00:03:31,449 --> 00:03:34,539
weirdest thing like nobody would like it
53
00:03:33,099 --> 00:03:36,819
or whatever and like not only is this
54
00:03:34,539 --> 00:03:39,939
okay it's like everybody's influence
55
00:03:36,819 --> 00:03:42,479
repulsion or the first costume like they
56
00:03:39,939 --> 00:03:42,479
invented
57
00:03:49,469 --> 00:03:54,060
we went to a hardcore show and saw what
58
00:03:52,020 --> 00:03:56,189
it was all about and like found the
59
00:03:54,060 --> 00:03:58,590
promoter they were really cool and they
60
00:03:56,189 --> 00:04:00,479
just took a chance on us until we
61
00:03:58,590 --> 00:04:01,710
started playing really fast and then I
62
00:04:00,479 --> 00:04:02,849
think people just didn't know what to
63
00:04:01,710 --> 00:04:05,820
make him it didn't matter whether they
64
00:04:02,849 --> 00:04:09,900
were punk or metal when we like locked
65
00:04:05,819 --> 00:04:13,349
on to the repulsion formula there were
66
00:04:09,900 --> 00:04:15,830
very few people that actually liked our
67
00:04:13,349 --> 00:04:15,829
music
68
00:04:16,399 --> 00:04:19,519
[Music]
69
00:04:25,199 --> 00:04:37,079
so what happened was Matt and I went to
70
00:04:28,170 --> 00:04:39,750
Florida in early 85 truck was amazing
71
00:04:37,079 --> 00:04:43,849
but it just wasn't working out what do
72
00:04:39,750 --> 00:04:43,850
we do now we we need to get a band going
73
00:04:46,639 --> 00:04:51,810
there was an article in the paper about
74
00:04:49,199 --> 00:04:55,769
a group of friends who had been busted
75
00:04:51,810 --> 00:04:59,430
for grave robbing and one of them was a
76
00:04:55,769 --> 00:05:02,819
guy named Dave Hollingshead who was also
77
00:04:59,430 --> 00:05:05,310
a drummer we we got him to start playing
78
00:05:02,819 --> 00:05:07,680
like speed metal sort of beats like
79
00:05:05,310 --> 00:05:09,689
Slayer but he had never done it before
80
00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,759
so when you're playing like double-time
81
00:05:09,689 --> 00:05:14,850
on the hi-hats he couldn't really do
82
00:05:11,759 --> 00:05:17,909
that at least not fast enough to really
83
00:05:14,850 --> 00:05:19,260
you know blow somebody's head off so we
84
00:05:17,910 --> 00:05:21,750
just kind of said all right just cheat
85
00:05:19,259 --> 00:05:25,409
we used to call it the cheap beat hit
86
00:05:21,750 --> 00:05:27,800
the hi-hat every other time as fast as
87
00:05:25,410 --> 00:05:27,800
possible
88
00:05:31,740 --> 00:05:38,879
your basic default blasts feet one foot
89
00:05:35,550 --> 00:05:41,879
not two feet one kick drum snare and
90
00:05:38,879 --> 00:05:44,279
it's all in sync it's not all sloppy and
91
00:05:41,879 --> 00:05:46,079
[ __ ] like goody-goody dude it's just
92
00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:48,029
like constant that's the single most
93
00:05:46,079 --> 00:05:50,099
important fundamental I think it's the
94
00:05:48,029 --> 00:05:53,389
rudiment that changed everything
95
00:05:50,100 --> 00:05:53,390
the blast speed
96
00:05:57,810 --> 00:06:02,759
other cemeteries the traditional blast
97
00:06:02,970 --> 00:06:05,970
alternating
98
00:06:06,050 --> 00:06:23,150
you know there's no cheating yes I refer
99
00:06:09,139 --> 00:06:25,668
to it when I was a kid over time
100
00:06:23,149 --> 00:06:27,620
he got so good at the cheap beat that it
101
00:06:25,668 --> 00:06:30,649
went from you know being like the speed
102
00:06:27,620 --> 00:06:32,538
of like a slaughter to this machine gun
103
00:06:30,649 --> 00:06:34,959
sound what you hear on the repulsion
104
00:06:32,538 --> 00:06:34,959
album
105
00:06:42,829 --> 00:06:47,990
we were planning on releasing it as an
106
00:06:45,199 --> 00:06:50,420
album but we were very disappointed in
107
00:06:47,990 --> 00:06:53,960
the way the recording turned out the
108
00:06:50,420 --> 00:06:59,060
repulsion recordings from 86 they were
109
00:06:53,959 --> 00:07:01,129
only released on CD 89 90 by necrosis
110
00:06:59,060 --> 00:07:03,649
records because nobody wanted to release
111
00:07:01,129 --> 00:07:04,279
the demo of repulsion because it was too
112
00:07:03,649 --> 00:07:08,120
noisy
113
00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:09,979
the grizzle in the base that's grind the
114
00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:14,120
grinding base sound you know came from
115
00:07:09,980 --> 00:07:15,860
like Scott Carlson when they went to go
116
00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:18,319
mix it they realized that they wiped his
117
00:07:15,860 --> 00:07:20,300
actual bass tracks so they just ended up
118
00:07:18,319 --> 00:07:23,029
using a scratch track you know and and
119
00:07:20,300 --> 00:07:25,189
it all great things come as complete
120
00:07:23,029 --> 00:07:27,379
accidents that's a pretty uncommon car
121
00:07:25,189 --> 00:07:29,120
together it was an unfinished album it's
122
00:07:27,379 --> 00:07:30,860
what what it was and I just started
123
00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,689
circulating and selling it on tape
124
00:07:30,860 --> 00:07:35,439
because I think we're gonna have to try
125
00:07:32,689 --> 00:07:35,439
this one more time
126
00:07:41,769 --> 00:07:46,889
Flint Michigan is definitely part of our
127
00:07:44,288 --> 00:07:49,418
sound my dad works in the auto factory
128
00:07:46,889 --> 00:07:52,918
Matt's dad worked in the auto factory
129
00:07:49,418 --> 00:07:55,209
Aaron's dad drove a truck that delivered
130
00:07:52,918 --> 00:07:57,490
automobiles made in the automobile
131
00:07:55,209 --> 00:07:59,799
factory two dealerships all over the
132
00:07:57,490 --> 00:08:02,189
Midwest that's your future like you're
133
00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:06,780
gonna be working in an auto factory
134
00:08:02,189 --> 00:08:09,959
[Music]
135
00:08:06,779 --> 00:08:09,959
[Applause]
136
00:08:13,879 --> 00:08:19,569
[Applause]
137
00:08:17,829 --> 00:08:23,870
[Music]
138
00:08:19,569 --> 00:08:26,670
[Applause]
139
00:08:23,870 --> 00:08:31,439
unbelievably working-class my grill got
140
00:08:26,670 --> 00:08:33,450
a level working class it literally was
141
00:08:31,439 --> 00:08:37,230
just terrible ox on the horizon and
142
00:08:33,450 --> 00:08:39,570
smokestacks and factories and the smell
143
00:08:37,230 --> 00:08:42,060
of chemicals and was hard to
144
00:08:39,570 --> 00:08:43,950
contextualise because though you lived
145
00:08:42,059 --> 00:08:47,129
it you lived in that you went to school
146
00:08:43,950 --> 00:08:49,790
in that you I need a new face hostility
147
00:08:47,129 --> 00:08:52,850
you know the daily basis
148
00:08:49,789 --> 00:08:52,849
[Music]
149
00:08:53,208 --> 00:08:57,258
initially I was I was brought up in a
150
00:08:55,369 --> 00:08:58,879
house that was literally a cup there a
151
00:08:57,259 --> 00:09:00,409
commune which was basically full of
152
00:08:58,879 --> 00:09:02,178
heroin addicts which my father was one
153
00:09:00,409 --> 00:09:03,799
there's a seven-year-old that's exposed
154
00:09:02,178 --> 00:09:06,110
then to let the Sex Pistols the damned
155
00:09:03,799 --> 00:09:07,818
clash Stranglers and a pretty much
156
00:09:06,110 --> 00:09:09,829
discovered industrial music purely
157
00:09:07,818 --> 00:09:10,379
accidentally this is where I met Nick
158
00:09:09,828 --> 00:09:15,459
Baumann
159
00:09:10,379 --> 00:09:15,460
[Applause]
160
00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:27,278
and this way it basically led me towards
161
00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:29,860
joining napalm death famously I book
162
00:09:27,278 --> 00:09:33,100
napalm death on a show their second ever
163
00:09:29,860 --> 00:09:34,509
show it was 1983 going way back at a
164
00:09:33,100 --> 00:09:36,879
boat club in Nottingham next to the
165
00:09:34,509 --> 00:09:40,110
river here there were 14 years old just
166
00:09:36,879 --> 00:09:40,110
blowing mines really
167
00:09:42,429 --> 00:09:47,949
the plates white 60 people if that but
168
00:09:44,710 --> 00:09:51,070
it was you knew something was pretty
169
00:09:47,950 --> 00:09:52,240
special well I did anyway having
170
00:09:51,070 --> 00:09:54,550
something that was more reminiscent
171
00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:57,009
Killing Joke or very early in the Vics
172
00:09:54,549 --> 00:09:58,629
ignorance wands we want to follow this
173
00:09:57,009 --> 00:10:00,309
into a melting pot and speed it up you
174
00:09:58,629 --> 00:10:02,230
know we couldn't actually do it with the
175
00:10:00,309 --> 00:10:03,729
original drummer who ironically was one
176
00:10:02,230 --> 00:10:06,190
of the founding members of a pawn death
177
00:10:03,730 --> 00:10:09,070
a guy called rat or miles right alleged
178
00:10:06,190 --> 00:10:13,720
as he was known in there unfortunately
179
00:10:09,070 --> 00:10:15,190
for four miles rat me and Nick we're
180
00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,800
starting to talk about that he couldn't
181
00:10:15,190 --> 00:10:19,540
play fast enough and this is when we
182
00:10:17,799 --> 00:10:21,549
happened upon Nick Harris you know Nick
183
00:10:19,539 --> 00:10:25,480
Harris was [ __ ] wild he was a force
184
00:10:21,549 --> 00:10:27,370
of nature it was not not human it
185
00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,830
carries something come up to me a napalm
186
00:10:27,370 --> 00:10:32,169
death gig and I was really enamored with
187
00:10:29,830 --> 00:10:34,330
his energy it's funny that we arrived
188
00:10:32,169 --> 00:10:34,959
there eventually becoming gravitated
189
00:10:34,330 --> 00:10:37,540
blastbeats
190
00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,940
you know because for a minute there we
191
00:10:37,539 --> 00:10:44,439
could have been actually playing very
192
00:10:38,940 --> 00:10:46,510
tribal sand in post-punk very sorts of
193
00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:51,299
revelations and we first had siege
194
00:10:46,509 --> 00:10:51,298
[Music]
195
00:10:57,980 --> 00:11:05,580
it blows my mind that ends like napalm
196
00:11:00,899 --> 00:11:07,649
death and drop dead who you know got
197
00:11:05,580 --> 00:11:10,440
their name from the drop dead in their
198
00:11:07,649 --> 00:11:12,179
bands that good you know call us an
199
00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,660
influence it's a it's very much an honor
200
00:11:12,179 --> 00:11:15,659
for that
201
00:11:13,659 --> 00:11:18,360
[Music]
202
00:11:15,659 --> 00:11:20,610
a lot of bands achieve their speed
203
00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:23,490
through what drummers will call a cheap
204
00:11:20,610 --> 00:11:25,830
beat they'll simplify the B to make the
205
00:11:23,490 --> 00:11:28,680
music faster but Rob never did that Rob
206
00:11:25,830 --> 00:11:31,259
played the full British discharge beat
207
00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:34,609
only at a much higher tempo he was just
208
00:11:31,259 --> 00:11:34,610
a really raging drummer
209
00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:46,040
discharge would have been the biggest
210
00:11:42,590 --> 00:11:49,370
influence on see agent on a lot of us at
211
00:11:46,039 --> 00:11:54,399
that period of time just as discharge
212
00:11:49,370 --> 00:11:57,350
hated Thatcher's England siege hated
213
00:11:54,399 --> 00:12:00,529
Reagan's America I mean a lot of the
214
00:11:57,350 --> 00:12:02,149
story of the grindcore thing really does
215
00:12:00,529 --> 00:12:04,509
come out of the hardcore punk scene in
216
00:12:02,149 --> 00:12:04,509
the UK
217
00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,639
[Music]
218
00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:19,610
the grind scene I find it more political
219
00:12:17,299 --> 00:12:21,500
than the metal scene generally I think
220
00:12:19,610 --> 00:12:23,990
that comes from the punk roots probably
221
00:12:21,500 --> 00:12:26,659
and like all the DIY aspect bands are
222
00:12:23,990 --> 00:12:28,250
closer to you know the punk spirit and
223
00:12:26,659 --> 00:12:29,809
the punk vision punk has always been
224
00:12:28,250 --> 00:12:32,360
political music I'm not saying there
225
00:12:29,809 --> 00:12:34,039
isn't political people in metal but it
226
00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,870
was always more about music with metal
227
00:12:34,039 --> 00:12:38,000
whereas punk was always more about the
228
00:12:35,870 --> 00:12:39,470
politics well a hardcore punk a lot of
229
00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:41,509
people had a lot of things to say you
230
00:12:39,470 --> 00:12:43,610
know I want to be different and I want
231
00:12:41,509 --> 00:12:45,620
to repel and all these other people are
232
00:12:43,610 --> 00:12:47,120
lame and the metal guys they're like I
233
00:12:45,620 --> 00:12:48,250
want to master my instrument and play it
234
00:12:47,120 --> 00:13:03,279
better than anyone
235
00:12:48,250 --> 00:13:06,039
[Music]
236
00:13:03,279 --> 00:13:09,350
the outside was recorded I think for
237
00:13:06,039 --> 00:13:10,309
potential release as a split album that
238
00:13:09,350 --> 00:13:12,139
was the thing back then
239
00:13:10,309 --> 00:13:14,839
Justin basically gave me the tapes and
240
00:13:12,139 --> 00:13:18,590
said well sold them to me and I'm like
241
00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:19,879
right now I need the b-side just didn't
242
00:13:18,590 --> 00:13:22,070
became a little bit disillusion but he
243
00:13:19,879 --> 00:13:25,250
was friends with a band called head of
244
00:13:22,070 --> 00:13:28,129
David he left and they were their
245
00:13:25,250 --> 00:13:31,070
guitarist and Nick Bolen actually asked
246
00:13:28,129 --> 00:13:34,340
me to play guitar this is between sorry
247
00:13:31,070 --> 00:13:34,970
a side and b-side on scum I said yes
248
00:13:34,340 --> 00:13:37,040
I'll do it
249
00:13:34,970 --> 00:13:38,450
I went back with them but I kind of
250
00:13:37,039 --> 00:13:41,209
chickened out you know either I just
251
00:13:38,450 --> 00:13:42,680
lost my nerve and so that way the band
252
00:13:41,210 --> 00:13:44,840
went through a wig here for a few months
253
00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,669
where they weren't really doing much so
254
00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:50,210
Mick Harris was kind of left on his own
255
00:13:46,669 --> 00:13:53,120
and he recruited leader Ian bill steer
256
00:13:50,210 --> 00:13:57,139
as Mick got a new lineup together the
257
00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:59,570
idea was let's do another recording and
258
00:13:57,139 --> 00:14:04,639
have a name b-side so that's kind of the
259
00:13:59,570 --> 00:14:06,680
way it turned out it's two different
260
00:14:04,639 --> 00:14:09,710
bands make Harris being the only
261
00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:12,309
constant bit crazier I mean they never
262
00:14:09,710 --> 00:14:14,590
rehearsed they never planned anything
263
00:14:12,309 --> 00:14:17,179
it's hard to explain how
264
00:14:14,590 --> 00:14:19,759
unprofessionally was looking back on it
265
00:14:17,179 --> 00:14:20,809
it was just a very fun outlet initially
266
00:14:19,759 --> 00:14:22,879
but I didn't think it was gonna go
267
00:14:20,809 --> 00:14:33,619
anywhere I mean even being in a band was
268
00:14:22,879 --> 00:14:37,639
a bit of a fantasy really John Peel in
269
00:14:33,620 --> 00:14:39,799
the UK is a very famous name because
270
00:14:37,639 --> 00:14:41,840
that's a DJ whose career spans decades
271
00:14:39,799 --> 00:14:44,389
so you going back to you know the
272
00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:46,759
Beatles era I guess as the years went by
273
00:14:44,389 --> 00:14:48,588
he managed to attach himself more and
274
00:14:46,759 --> 00:14:50,419
more to the extreme fringes of music I
275
00:14:48,589 --> 00:14:52,910
was exposed to so much music thanks to
276
00:14:50,419 --> 00:14:55,309
John Perlina I was a 10 year old kid
277
00:14:52,909 --> 00:14:58,399
with a tiny little radio the wireless
278
00:14:55,309 --> 00:14:59,838
radio battery-operated radio listening
279
00:14:58,399 --> 00:15:02,179
in bed when I should have been going to
280
00:14:59,839 --> 00:15:04,370
school so you can imagine the first time
281
00:15:02,179 --> 00:15:06,469
I heard John Peel play anything off
282
00:15:04,370 --> 00:15:09,159
scone I'd left the band by the time he
283
00:15:06,470 --> 00:15:09,160
first plates gone
284
00:15:12,149 --> 00:15:16,539
that very night he played ended a bit
285
00:15:15,220 --> 00:15:19,990
straight after he played the track off
286
00:15:16,539 --> 00:15:22,120
Scott side armor and it was like oh my
287
00:15:19,990 --> 00:15:23,799
god you know I mean this is this is who
288
00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:26,470
the who I grew up listening to is now
289
00:15:23,799 --> 00:15:28,659
just played not only a John Peel session
290
00:15:26,470 --> 00:15:31,570
of a band I've just joined but now Scott
291
00:15:28,659 --> 00:15:33,899
and no harm that's just [ __ ] blow off
292
00:15:31,570 --> 00:15:33,900
effort
293
00:15:48,269 --> 00:15:52,110
the momentum from napalm was so rapid
294
00:15:50,850 --> 00:15:54,180
because of what he did for the band's
295
00:15:52,110 --> 00:15:55,730
was a very brave thing I mean you know
296
00:15:54,179 --> 00:15:57,539
even though days when something's
297
00:15:55,730 --> 00:15:59,220
confrontational people kept people
298
00:15:57,539 --> 00:16:01,439
finally I want to digest you know but
299
00:15:59,220 --> 00:16:03,089
back then I think it was even harder it
300
00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,040
was just hard to take in you know you're
301
00:16:03,089 --> 00:16:06,150
just a kid and your musics been played
302
00:16:05,039 --> 00:16:09,509
on national radio
303
00:16:06,149 --> 00:16:09,509
[Music]
304
00:16:11,460 --> 00:16:15,240
well Mickey came up with the term it
305
00:16:13,830 --> 00:16:17,310
didn't come from the press as many
306
00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:19,830
people think or even the underground
307
00:16:17,309 --> 00:16:23,009
press it was Mickey a lot of alternative
308
00:16:19,830 --> 00:16:25,230
indie magazines were then focusing on
309
00:16:23,009 --> 00:16:26,939
grunkle to them it was completely new
310
00:16:25,230 --> 00:16:28,440
thing even though it to mean able I'm
311
00:16:26,940 --> 00:16:30,570
deaf there was a really fast hardcore
312
00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,610
metal band when the chamber iron core
313
00:16:30,570 --> 00:16:35,100
game it that was a whole different
314
00:16:32,610 --> 00:16:36,419
spectrum than really hardcore kids were
315
00:16:35,100 --> 00:16:39,778
like man you heard this [ __ ] scum
316
00:16:36,419 --> 00:16:42,240
record it's completely ridiculous place
317
00:16:39,778 --> 00:16:45,088
I'd to first place I - don't play side
318
00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:46,740
one side one kind of sucks place I - and
319
00:16:45,089 --> 00:16:48,810
I'm like really what's it like you say
320
00:16:46,740 --> 00:16:51,680
oh man it sounds like [ __ ] Popeye
321
00:16:48,809 --> 00:16:51,679
screaming - people
322
00:16:58,730 --> 00:17:02,420
the sand was still changing I think at
323
00:17:00,799 --> 00:17:03,708
that point it definitely changed on the
324
00:17:02,419 --> 00:17:05,240
second half I'm not saying I was I
325
00:17:03,708 --> 00:17:06,919
wouldn't say I was the conscious part of
326
00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:09,048
it was just going that way clearly and
327
00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,610
so the first thing I actually recorded
328
00:17:09,048 --> 00:17:12,349
with him was actually a John pail radio
329
00:17:10,609 --> 00:17:14,659
session I didn't play the show with him
330
00:17:12,349 --> 00:17:17,000
so he did a couple of new songs on that
331
00:17:14,660 --> 00:17:18,980
but it wasn't until you the second album
332
00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:22,160
really from enslavement where he is the
333
00:17:18,980 --> 00:17:24,078
songs that I've written I was at a store
334
00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,939
in Houston I go to Houston a lot for
335
00:17:24,078 --> 00:17:27,649
shows and we goodies they had really
336
00:17:25,939 --> 00:17:29,240
good record stores and I found napalm
337
00:17:27,650 --> 00:17:31,040
death from enslavement to obliteration
338
00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,900
you know a marker it was written fastest
339
00:17:31,039 --> 00:17:34,909
band in the world this is the fastest
340
00:17:32,900 --> 00:17:36,860
album ever made and no psycho man I
341
00:17:34,910 --> 00:17:38,690
gotta have that so I went out and bought
342
00:17:36,859 --> 00:17:41,089
it I put it on in the first songs
343
00:17:38,690 --> 00:17:43,340
perfectly slow I'm like this isn't fast
344
00:17:41,089 --> 00:17:45,168
man I just I'm not into this at all then
345
00:17:43,339 --> 00:17:46,909
right Edgar just kicks and it takes off
346
00:17:45,169 --> 00:17:49,160
for the entire [ __ ] record that
347
00:17:46,910 --> 00:17:53,048
second song kicked in it was like
348
00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,048
plucking in a Christmas tree
349
00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:59,690
[Music]
350
00:17:56,199 --> 00:18:01,849
from enslavement scum those records are
351
00:17:59,690 --> 00:18:03,588
just groundbreaking we wouldn't be
352
00:18:01,848 --> 00:18:06,608
sitting here talking about this if those
353
00:18:03,588 --> 00:18:06,608
records didn't exist
354
00:18:15,419 --> 00:18:19,879
what PLF from Houston Texas let's [ __ ]
355
00:18:17,669 --> 00:18:19,879
drive
356
00:18:21,059 --> 00:18:53,528
[Music]
357
00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:10,529
[Music]
358
00:19:06,299 --> 00:19:10,529
[Applause]
359
00:19:17,788 --> 00:19:22,858
I think there's a week you go depends
360
00:19:20,759 --> 00:19:28,970
yeah sometimes maybe like Wow -
361
00:19:22,858 --> 00:19:28,970
sometimes like five or six a week
362
00:19:30,630 --> 00:19:36,549
[Music]
363
00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,529
like when I first heard like insect
364
00:19:36,548 --> 00:19:41,710
warfare when I was like maybe 50 years
365
00:19:38,529 --> 00:19:44,109
old I just said wow you know that's the
366
00:19:41,710 --> 00:19:45,920
[ __ ] heavier [ __ ] I ever heard my
367
00:19:44,109 --> 00:19:52,250
life
368
00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:52,250
[Music]
369
00:19:53,180 --> 00:19:56,810
it's a very honest yawn or two you just
370
00:19:55,339 --> 00:19:59,449
pretty much play as fast as you can
371
00:19:56,809 --> 00:20:01,339
scream scream as loud as you can just
372
00:19:59,450 --> 00:20:03,350
[ __ ] poke balls out
373
00:20:01,339 --> 00:20:05,569
it's pretty [ __ ] extreme I like
374
00:20:03,349 --> 00:20:08,480
knowledge the fact that the average
375
00:20:05,569 --> 00:20:17,179
population doesn't gently think his
376
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:19,160
music you know it just keeps me calling
377
00:20:17,180 --> 00:20:20,840
music but for maybe like most like
378
00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:23,090
random like normal people they think
379
00:20:20,839 --> 00:20:26,179
this is noise especially where I'm from
380
00:20:23,089 --> 00:20:29,000
for sure like compared to like Asian pop
381
00:20:26,180 --> 00:20:32,450
like like k-pop k-pop whatever that's
382
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:38,079
like this is like noise but for us this
383
00:20:32,450 --> 00:20:40,880
is true music but I think the thing that
384
00:20:38,079 --> 00:20:43,339
all things grind that lightly really
385
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:46,640
like to hailed it on them for me was
386
00:20:43,339 --> 00:20:50,689
terrorizing like Terrorizer the like one
387
00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:52,750
and only American grind band like Jesus
388
00:20:50,690 --> 00:20:52,750
Christ
389
00:20:56,309 --> 00:21:01,579
[Music]
390
00:20:58,650 --> 00:21:04,650
my original band was Terrorizer back in
391
00:21:01,579 --> 00:21:07,679
1889 back then as kids we didn't have
392
00:21:04,650 --> 00:21:09,990
much and I like a couple pedals which
393
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:12,450
he's you know a couple pedals and
394
00:21:09,990 --> 00:21:14,910
whatever we had and just try to get the
395
00:21:12,450 --> 00:21:16,650
best sound out of them this one guy used
396
00:21:14,910 --> 00:21:20,190
to come see us practice all the time and
397
00:21:16,650 --> 00:21:21,900
he told us he had a drummer well the guy
398
00:21:20,190 --> 00:21:24,410
takes off at half an hour later he walks
399
00:21:21,900 --> 00:21:24,410
in with Pete
400
00:21:28,940 --> 00:21:32,779
well back then there was not many
401
00:21:31,099 --> 00:21:35,480
drummers that were doing the blasts
402
00:21:32,779 --> 00:21:38,629
there was just speed you know thrash
403
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:41,750
black metal I just wanted to take it to
404
00:21:38,630 --> 00:21:45,860
the next level I know I wanted to play
405
00:21:41,750 --> 00:21:47,779
like double the skank beep he looks like
406
00:21:45,859 --> 00:21:49,969
he's putting out a cigarette and does a
407
00:21:47,779 --> 00:21:53,049
swivel thing and so he gets like a like
408
00:21:49,970 --> 00:21:53,049
a double bounce going
409
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,929
when me and Jesse heard that right there
410
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,410
and then we told them well do you want
411
00:22:02,930 --> 00:22:05,410
to join the band
412
00:22:13,309 --> 00:22:18,769
[Music]
413
00:22:24,130 --> 00:22:28,840
I remember Jessie was uh yes he was
414
00:22:26,558 --> 00:22:30,399
writing with David Vincent Vera Vincent
415
00:22:28,839 --> 00:22:32,798
was asking Jessie that where could they
416
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:34,419
find on to her leg Pete and Jesse gave
417
00:22:32,798 --> 00:22:34,779
him up just before you could have our
418
00:22:34,419 --> 00:22:37,390
drummer
419
00:22:34,779 --> 00:22:38,649
that's when Pete told me that they were
420
00:22:37,390 --> 00:22:40,600
and them sent him a ticket about a
421
00:22:38,650 --> 00:22:43,030
Florida and I mean I got pissed because
422
00:22:40,599 --> 00:22:44,980
he took off on us and then just you
423
00:22:43,029 --> 00:22:47,649
already made his move I guess he was
424
00:22:44,980 --> 00:22:50,860
gonna go play with napalm I already
425
00:22:47,650 --> 00:22:54,100
already right into Jesse and a couple
426
00:22:50,859 --> 00:22:55,629
days before and going over to keep ahead
427
00:22:54,099 --> 00:22:57,759
of the morning because you know at the
428
00:22:55,630 --> 00:22:59,200
time difference between in LA I think
429
00:22:57,759 --> 00:23:02,529
originally thought it was just for one
430
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:05,048
to only ended up staying well for many
431
00:23:02,529 --> 00:23:09,490
albums you know there was not a lot of
432
00:23:05,048 --> 00:23:12,339
interest in the Terrorizer and Plus this
433
00:23:09,490 --> 00:23:14,558
other bands worlds were were big bands
434
00:23:12,339 --> 00:23:20,019
you know more better NGOs they had like
435
00:23:14,558 --> 00:23:22,658
a beginning of a history you know what I
436
00:23:20,019 --> 00:23:25,298
mean so it was something cool nice for
437
00:23:22,659 --> 00:23:30,100
me to join bands like that and then with
438
00:23:25,298 --> 00:23:32,558
napalm Dave another big band so he was
439
00:23:30,099 --> 00:23:33,668
what was supposed to be him and I don't
440
00:23:32,558 --> 00:23:36,940
really know what happened to terrorize
441
00:23:33,669 --> 00:23:39,880
after that you know many years past it
442
00:23:36,940 --> 00:23:41,169
was just a one album by Terrorizer there
443
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,360
was basically make napalm death and
444
00:23:41,169 --> 00:23:45,700
mobile angel members because we were
445
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:48,879
under contract for two albums and you
446
00:23:45,700 --> 00:23:50,169
know I was a Pete scheduled real busy
447
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,270
with more became John same thing with
448
00:23:50,169 --> 00:23:55,870
Jesse I mean we are close a couple of
449
00:23:52,269 --> 00:24:00,158
times but it never happened and you know
450
00:23:55,869 --> 00:24:01,509
I wish they would have and we eat much
451
00:24:00,159 --> 00:24:03,580
at least enough I don't talk to him at
452
00:24:01,509 --> 00:24:06,129
all those bad things between me and him
453
00:24:03,579 --> 00:24:07,808
right now supposedly I gave up on
454
00:24:06,130 --> 00:24:09,700
Terrorizer
455
00:24:07,808 --> 00:24:11,980
you know I didn't give up band a chance
456
00:24:09,700 --> 00:24:14,980
which obviously he took off two more
457
00:24:11,980 --> 00:24:17,740
back and Jesse took up was uh was napalm
458
00:24:14,980 --> 00:24:19,170
man from there on Nana and just don't
459
00:24:17,740 --> 00:24:29,640
really talk to him at all
460
00:24:19,170 --> 00:24:31,890
I did a radio show at the University of
461
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:34,920
Ottawa a metal radio show with a friend
462
00:24:31,890 --> 00:24:37,470
of mine and I was discovering a lot of
463
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:40,380
bands that way and the way I got into
464
00:24:37,470 --> 00:24:43,529
grindcore was one day he put on brutal
465
00:24:40,380 --> 00:24:46,230
truths walking corpse from extreme
466
00:24:43,529 --> 00:24:47,490
conditions it's such a classic song the
467
00:24:46,230 --> 00:24:49,460
way it starts with like this tear
468
00:24:47,490 --> 00:24:53,450
anything
469
00:24:49,460 --> 00:24:53,450
[Music]
470
00:24:56,798 --> 00:25:00,369
I'm gonna play this aggressive stuff too
471
00:24:58,569 --> 00:25:02,048
I want to do this who am I gonna get to
472
00:25:00,369 --> 00:25:04,359
play with me and I thought of Scott and
473
00:25:02,048 --> 00:25:07,000
Brent Brent had a permanent nickname
474
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,648
Guren gern blanston when a Steve
475
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:12,609
Martin's characters on Saturday Night
476
00:25:08,648 --> 00:25:15,019
Live we formed as a three-piece so I
477
00:25:12,609 --> 00:25:20,538
might [ __ ] this regarding a singer
478
00:25:15,019 --> 00:25:22,519
[Music]
479
00:25:20,538 --> 00:25:24,169
keval was just obscene stirrer he'd
480
00:25:22,519 --> 00:25:26,269
already gone to the brine crusty tour in
481
00:25:24,169 --> 00:25:28,219
England and everything and wrote for cmj
482
00:25:26,269 --> 00:25:30,649
college music journal me and Dan were
483
00:25:28,219 --> 00:25:32,899
doing something else and then it he got
484
00:25:30,648 --> 00:25:34,248
really tired of [ __ ] doing vocals I
485
00:25:32,898 --> 00:25:36,078
recorded something with a drum machine
486
00:25:34,249 --> 00:25:37,879
and had him sing over it some of those
487
00:25:36,078 --> 00:25:39,029
riffs actually turned into a denial of
488
00:25:37,878 --> 00:25:42,298
existence
489
00:25:39,029 --> 00:25:42,298
[Music]
490
00:25:45,180 --> 00:25:48,600
back in the early days of brutal truth
491
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,610
we didn't have gear we just borrowed
492
00:25:48,599 --> 00:25:51,839
everything if we were going to play
493
00:25:50,609 --> 00:25:53,909
Rhode Island or something like that
494
00:25:51,839 --> 00:25:55,230
instead of like getting a van or
495
00:25:53,910 --> 00:25:56,480
something like that we would just all
496
00:25:55,230 --> 00:26:03,910
[ __ ] hop a train
497
00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:06,700
[Music]
498
00:26:03,910 --> 00:26:10,540
I was hanging out with people like my
499
00:26:06,700 --> 00:26:13,630
friend Jim Welch who at the time was
500
00:26:10,539 --> 00:26:14,829
running Eric USA and all these bands
501
00:26:13,630 --> 00:26:16,420
were already on Eric
502
00:26:14,829 --> 00:26:18,579
and we were friends with Jim it seemed
503
00:26:16,420 --> 00:26:21,160
logical that that would be a natural
504
00:26:18,579 --> 00:26:22,659
label to go to they just captured the
505
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,100
attention of Dave that Danny look I
506
00:26:22,660 --> 00:26:27,400
resented Brian core bands and they were
507
00:26:24,099 --> 00:26:28,619
sterile forced to be fast as hell it's
508
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,430
the right for maximum rock'n'roll
509
00:26:28,619 --> 00:26:32,469
fanzine in the States
510
00:26:30,430 --> 00:26:35,009
I was like their UK correspondent if you
511
00:26:32,470 --> 00:26:37,029
like I've dabbled with promoting I
512
00:26:35,009 --> 00:26:42,400
didn't know at the time but I'm a bit of
513
00:26:37,029 --> 00:26:45,160
an organizing kind of guy hey you know I
514
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:48,790
tape traded with dick back in the day
515
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:51,009
and also had a publicity job at the
516
00:26:48,789 --> 00:26:53,829
record label I went from being a music
517
00:26:51,009 --> 00:26:56,829
fan to a facilitator or whatever it's
518
00:26:53,829 --> 00:26:59,679
been called that's what Eric did we were
519
00:26:56,829 --> 00:27:02,799
facilitators initiators that's what I do
520
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:05,650
I'm like I'm ringing bags up getting in
521
00:27:02,799 --> 00:27:09,399
the studio do this quite forcible
522
00:27:05,650 --> 00:27:11,769
sometimes to do it in the year egg
523
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,960
history when the American bands were
524
00:27:11,769 --> 00:27:17,160
getting signed they're a bit of a bit
525
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,160
more professionalism came in
526
00:27:19,180 --> 00:27:24,440
we started rehearsing a lot writing more
527
00:27:22,099 --> 00:27:27,349
music and that's what the whole speed
528
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:29,299
factor came into being it worked out
529
00:27:27,349 --> 00:27:31,159
good that we answered up getting
530
00:27:29,299 --> 00:27:33,680
somebody that had never played grindcore
531
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,990
before because we were able to kind of
532
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:38,000
bold him a little bit rich was
533
00:27:35,990 --> 00:27:41,059
straight-up punk rock he came from that
534
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,440
Philly punk scene so you know grind was
535
00:27:41,059 --> 00:27:44,629
absolutely new to him
536
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:47,390
I mean it was the kind of thing where
537
00:27:44,630 --> 00:27:50,030
like I joined the band and then two or
538
00:27:47,390 --> 00:27:52,640
three weeks later we like went somewhere
539
00:27:50,029 --> 00:27:54,670
to like write an album and then right
540
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:57,890
from that we left for a tour and then I
541
00:27:54,670 --> 00:28:01,720
played 250 or more shows a year for the
542
00:27:57,890 --> 00:28:01,720
next through five or six years
543
00:28:15,569 --> 00:28:20,159
I wanted to be faster I just wanted I
544
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:23,000
didn't have an attention span
545
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,000
I wanted fast
546
00:28:28,569 --> 00:28:33,579
- intensity yeah that's a better word
547
00:28:31,058 --> 00:28:35,740
intensity that's P you know it's
548
00:28:33,579 --> 00:28:38,798
supposed to be like really intense it
549
00:28:35,740 --> 00:28:41,500
actually is pretty much addictive I
550
00:28:38,798 --> 00:28:44,980
think you know the adrenaline you get
551
00:28:41,500 --> 00:28:46,720
more alive I'm a huge adrenaline junkie
552
00:28:44,980 --> 00:28:49,558
and it's just great to be part of the
553
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,558
shoots thunderous noise
554
00:29:03,539 --> 00:29:08,009
music is therapy for a lot of people I
555
00:29:06,119 --> 00:29:10,139
mean you if you don't play you start
556
00:29:08,009 --> 00:29:13,490
your day driving into work at 5:30 in
557
00:29:10,140 --> 00:29:16,800
the morning you hate your boss you know
558
00:29:13,490 --> 00:29:18,420
somebody ran over your cat or your dog
559
00:29:16,799 --> 00:29:39,569
and you're just pissed off and you just
560
00:29:18,420 --> 00:29:42,029
unleash it's sort of like my art you
561
00:29:39,569 --> 00:29:43,589
know you know I don't really play music
562
00:29:42,029 --> 00:29:46,529
i dumbed I'm not really a trained
563
00:29:43,589 --> 00:29:49,319
drummer I just sort of enjoy grinding I
564
00:29:46,529 --> 00:29:51,420
like to play grind and I like to do
565
00:29:49,319 --> 00:29:54,779
grind vocals and yell and play super
566
00:29:51,420 --> 00:30:00,170
fast and it's very much of a emotional
567
00:29:54,779 --> 00:30:00,170
and physical sort of uh outlet for me
568
00:30:04,579 --> 00:30:08,629
so many bouncers do grindcore they have
569
00:30:07,398 --> 00:30:11,119
they lack the passion they lack the
570
00:30:08,630 --> 00:30:13,549
urgency I mean I still don't know the
571
00:30:11,119 --> 00:30:15,739
exact reason why those guys quit napalm
572
00:30:13,548 --> 00:30:18,829
death they couldn't really see beyond
573
00:30:15,740 --> 00:30:20,630
playing - like 60 people in their minds
574
00:30:18,829 --> 00:30:23,329
and in everyone's mind really it was a
575
00:30:20,630 --> 00:30:25,220
small scene how can it how could it ever
576
00:30:23,329 --> 00:30:25,788
get bigger but things happened so
577
00:30:25,220 --> 00:30:27,740
quickly
578
00:30:25,788 --> 00:30:31,849
six months in the band back then was
579
00:30:27,740 --> 00:30:33,319
like a lifetime I viewed napalm as this
580
00:30:31,849 --> 00:30:37,099
thing's just supposed to be very extreme
581
00:30:33,319 --> 00:30:38,898
like a short sharp shock and I didn't
582
00:30:37,099 --> 00:30:40,699
really see it as having much longevity
583
00:30:38,898 --> 00:30:42,648
and which sounds ridiculous now
584
00:30:40,700 --> 00:30:45,528
obviously but that's kind of how I
585
00:30:42,648 --> 00:30:48,018
looked at it Lee and Bill had left after
586
00:30:45,528 --> 00:30:50,659
a Japanese sewer for various reasons I
587
00:30:48,019 --> 00:30:52,579
was pretty devastated really but we knew
588
00:30:50,659 --> 00:30:54,860
Barney because Barney wasn't seen in
589
00:30:52,579 --> 00:30:56,689
their benediction shine and Mickey knew
590
00:30:54,859 --> 00:30:58,038
what I could do we thought Barney would
591
00:30:56,690 --> 00:30:59,120
be a good person to come in because had
592
00:30:58,038 --> 00:31:07,068
a lot of energy
593
00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:07,068
[Music]
594
00:31:08,269 --> 00:31:13,579
I was kind of that token roadie who did
595
00:31:11,509 --> 00:31:16,970
nothing except drink and maybe lift a
596
00:31:13,579 --> 00:31:27,289
cabinet I feel your odds down the road
597
00:31:16,970 --> 00:31:29,769
[Applause]
598
00:31:27,289 --> 00:31:34,009
[Music]
599
00:31:29,769 --> 00:31:37,039
people you know to walk into a room nice
600
00:31:34,009 --> 00:31:39,769
to hate everybody hates everything
601
00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:43,190
napalm is a paradox as are many other
602
00:31:39,769 --> 00:31:46,429
bands of this ilk we have very very
603
00:31:43,190 --> 00:31:48,529
aggressive extreme violent sounding
604
00:31:46,429 --> 00:31:58,250
which is the important part music
605
00:31:48,529 --> 00:32:01,990
[Music]
606
00:31:58,250 --> 00:32:03,788
the ground which is on the wall
607
00:32:01,990 --> 00:32:08,250
but on the other side of things the
608
00:32:03,788 --> 00:32:11,440
lyrics are peaceful tolerance humane
609
00:32:08,250 --> 00:32:21,460
people sights it's a political band and
610
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:23,610
I wouldn't necessarily discount that but
611
00:32:21,460 --> 00:32:26,048
at the same time I also understand that
612
00:32:23,609 --> 00:32:33,240
politics can also mean nothing
613
00:32:26,048 --> 00:32:33,240
it can be very tokenistic very divisive
614
00:32:36,269 --> 00:32:41,740
the starting point is to bring people
615
00:32:38,859 --> 00:32:44,500
together not forcing a path so my thing
616
00:32:41,740 --> 00:32:49,319
is what the underlying thing for me is
617
00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:49,319
it is a humane humanitarian standpoint
618
00:32:52,740 --> 00:33:04,500
[Applause]
619
00:32:54,839 --> 00:33:04,500
[Music]
620
00:33:06,298 --> 00:33:10,588
this kind of music was always really
621
00:33:08,278 --> 00:33:13,709
integrated with like giving a [ __ ] about
622
00:33:10,588 --> 00:33:16,440
things and I think that's kind of assess
623
00:33:13,709 --> 00:33:19,429
something about the general you know
624
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,429
attitude
625
00:33:22,368 --> 00:33:30,058
it was the extremity which was the most
626
00:33:25,798 --> 00:33:31,769
important but it was also the you know
627
00:33:30,058 --> 00:33:33,868
the opportunity to actually say
628
00:33:31,769 --> 00:33:35,789
something in your you know and you're
629
00:33:33,868 --> 00:33:45,029
with your band and your lyrics
630
00:33:35,789 --> 00:33:47,799
[Music]
631
00:33:45,029 --> 00:33:51,460
what did we do that was so bad it is
632
00:33:47,799 --> 00:33:55,329
offensive it's stupid it's it's it's
633
00:33:51,460 --> 00:34:00,480
it's blue humor it's it's dumb it's
634
00:33:55,329 --> 00:34:03,629
childish its sophomoric but we know it
635
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,630
[Applause]
636
00:34:08,670 --> 00:34:12,730
[Music]
637
00:34:10,329 --> 00:34:16,059
she said I saw that shirt that's your
638
00:34:12,730 --> 00:34:19,389
band Erna been called anal [ __ ] and she
639
00:34:16,059 --> 00:34:22,119
was crying and I'm just like I'm trying
640
00:34:19,389 --> 00:34:24,789
to justify it I'm like I got nothing i
641
00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:28,239
got nothing i broke my mother's heart
642
00:34:24,789 --> 00:34:33,400
this sucks I didn't mean to do that
643
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:35,169
[ __ ] oh well [ __ ] there I am with hair
644
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:40,119
like an [ __ ]
645
00:34:35,170 --> 00:34:42,039
this is my favorite they [ __ ] hate
646
00:34:40,119 --> 00:34:45,489
that cover it's so stupid
647
00:34:42,039 --> 00:34:49,139
this is the Unplugged album 80 its own
648
00:34:45,489 --> 00:34:51,939
EP original Mike pretty Mike pretty much
649
00:34:49,139 --> 00:34:54,009
paid for this Mike Mike was doing one of
650
00:34:51,940 --> 00:34:56,050
us who had a job that made money he was
651
00:34:54,010 --> 00:34:59,020
a he was a press operator and like I
652
00:34:56,050 --> 00:35:00,670
like some like print shop and I think
653
00:34:59,019 --> 00:35:02,500
Seth pretty much convinced him like all
654
00:35:00,670 --> 00:35:04,269
right so you can be like 200 dollars a
655
00:35:02,500 --> 00:35:13,090
week and we'll get those record eyes
656
00:35:04,269 --> 00:35:15,610
okay sure Seth would make up bands
657
00:35:13,090 --> 00:35:17,110
[ __ ] constantly he would make up ants
658
00:35:15,610 --> 00:35:19,990
death metal bands would like his cousin
659
00:35:17,110 --> 00:35:21,880
are as friends or something and then
660
00:35:19,989 --> 00:35:23,979
make a demo tape and they'd say oh it's
661
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,390
real bad yeah I lose banana code shoots
662
00:35:23,980 --> 00:35:26,849
come and says like oh yeah well I have
663
00:35:25,389 --> 00:35:28,989
this band called anal [ __ ]
664
00:35:26,849 --> 00:35:30,519
yeah we're gonna play a show man we
665
00:35:28,989 --> 00:35:33,489
don't even have music man we just
666
00:35:30,519 --> 00:35:34,960
[ __ ] let go crazy just like oh yeah
667
00:35:33,489 --> 00:35:38,359
he's like yeah you should come see us
668
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:41,409
and then he had to make the band Oh
669
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,409
[Music]
670
00:35:42,519 --> 00:35:48,489
our first show ever was a rehearsal and
671
00:35:45,909 --> 00:35:53,679
we played in front of his mother his two
672
00:35:48,489 --> 00:35:55,809
brothers Easter Sunday no joke and I
673
00:35:53,679 --> 00:35:57,519
remember his grandmother just like this
674
00:35:55,809 --> 00:35:59,170
just you guys are gonna get yourself
675
00:35:57,519 --> 00:36:05,829
killed if you do that
676
00:35:59,170 --> 00:36:05,829
[Music]
677
00:36:06,619 --> 00:36:11,088
there are times when that's good when
678
00:36:09,199 --> 00:36:13,578
the crowd wants it but there are times
679
00:36:11,088 --> 00:36:16,130
when it's like you know I mean there's
680
00:36:13,579 --> 00:36:18,349
one time we played you play Texas and he
681
00:36:16,130 --> 00:36:22,068
was doing the microphone thing and he
682
00:36:18,349 --> 00:36:24,680
hit John square in the head cut his head
683
00:36:22,068 --> 00:36:26,210
open knocked him down started bleeding
684
00:36:24,679 --> 00:36:28,159
and he's bleeding he's bleeding his
685
00:36:26,210 --> 00:36:31,639
pleading I grabbed the mic from Seth and
686
00:36:28,159 --> 00:36:33,588
I'm like I need I need a towel I need a
687
00:36:31,639 --> 00:36:34,190
towel I need something and he cut his
688
00:36:33,588 --> 00:36:36,949
head open
689
00:36:34,190 --> 00:36:39,170
Seth grabs a mic for music yeah and I
690
00:36:36,949 --> 00:36:41,989
need two sprites with no ice somebody
691
00:36:39,170 --> 00:36:44,710
knocked mine over you know I mean that's
692
00:36:41,989 --> 00:36:44,709
what you had to deal with
693
00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:51,909
[Music]
694
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:55,830
I never listened to them myself that's
695
00:36:51,909 --> 00:36:58,480
not kind of music than ever attracted me
696
00:36:55,829 --> 00:37:00,579
you know I don't think everybody is to
697
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:03,010
see it's crying with ain't no conduct
698
00:37:00,579 --> 00:37:06,730
and there was enough other big grind
699
00:37:03,010 --> 00:37:09,460
bands that anybody knows a bit well it's
700
00:37:06,730 --> 00:37:11,860
just a sub job right now I can respect
701
00:37:09,460 --> 00:37:13,510
like the noise aspects I can get that
702
00:37:11,860 --> 00:37:15,010
and then I guess they also get like a
703
00:37:13,510 --> 00:37:17,590
little bit of a pass because there's
704
00:37:15,010 --> 00:37:19,540
like they started it I guess
705
00:37:17,590 --> 00:37:21,340
I don't think they were really ever that
706
00:37:19,539 --> 00:37:25,389
serious of a band but you know they
707
00:37:21,340 --> 00:37:28,180
became more of a real band after a few
708
00:37:25,389 --> 00:37:30,849
years I do not like anal [ __ ] I think
709
00:37:28,179 --> 00:37:32,049
Seth Putnam was piece of [ __ ] everyone's
710
00:37:30,849 --> 00:37:33,789
like all you have no sense of humor all
711
00:37:32,050 --> 00:37:36,070
right why don't [ __ ] said [ __ ] him as
712
00:37:33,789 --> 00:37:38,559
a piece of [ __ ] the art that he created
713
00:37:36,070 --> 00:37:40,570
it reflected that he was in this
714
00:37:38,559 --> 00:37:42,849
insensitive piece of [ __ ] garbage
715
00:37:40,570 --> 00:37:44,350
that thought that everything everyone
716
00:37:42,849 --> 00:37:46,960
else's pain was like one big [ __ ]
717
00:37:44,349 --> 00:37:50,019
joke he was probably like you'd expect
718
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:51,490
he was a handful at times he's a really
719
00:37:50,019 --> 00:37:53,050
smart guy though he wasn't a complete
720
00:37:51,489 --> 00:37:53,849
maniac but he definitely knew how to
721
00:37:53,050 --> 00:37:56,969
play his part
722
00:37:53,849 --> 00:37:56,969
[Music]
723
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,990
I had already gotten tired of the gigs
724
00:38:04,309 --> 00:38:08,719
and traveling because I was the only one
725
00:38:05,989 --> 00:38:10,129
that could rent a vehicle and all that
726
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,959
was me when they had a car the only one
727
00:38:10,130 --> 00:38:15,800
had a credit card so I could see that it
728
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:19,010
was it was leaning a lot on on me and my
729
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:20,180
resources for doing it so Tim told me he
730
00:38:19,010 --> 00:38:22,990
wanted to get out and I told him I
731
00:38:20,179 --> 00:38:22,989
wanted to get out too
732
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:39,599
[Music]
733
00:38:40,670 --> 00:38:45,570
it got really bad he got it got really
734
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,070
stressful sometimes it would be great
735
00:38:45,570 --> 00:38:49,440
you know sometimes the crowd would be
736
00:38:47,070 --> 00:38:50,190
crazy and the crowd would be with it and
737
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:54,840
it would be great
738
00:38:50,190 --> 00:39:02,409
or and sometimes it would be really hard
739
00:38:54,840 --> 00:39:02,410
[Applause]
740
00:39:05,289 --> 00:39:12,380
yeah let's get some of these tats this
741
00:39:09,829 --> 00:39:16,210
is the grind for us or tattoo you know
742
00:39:12,380 --> 00:39:16,210
the compilation help you forgot yeah
743
00:39:18,010 --> 00:39:22,450
besides that distance I got oh please
744
00:39:22,838 --> 00:39:38,808
really old school thing this is a
745
00:39:35,420 --> 00:39:43,838
typical that kids show here in Quebec a
746
00:39:38,809 --> 00:39:43,839
classic show from the 70s and in the 80s
747
00:39:43,989 --> 00:39:50,029
every every band from the true you know
748
00:39:46,949 --> 00:39:50,029
[Music]
749
00:39:56,380 --> 00:40:01,990
my first band was like discharge it's
750
00:40:00,130 --> 00:40:03,970
more like a noise project that's still
751
00:40:01,989 --> 00:40:12,459
going on today we started that like in
752
00:40:03,969 --> 00:40:16,480
1990 with chainsaw we're still doing
753
00:40:12,460 --> 00:40:20,559
this on and off since like the past 25
754
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:23,639
years but my first actual real grind ban
755
00:40:20,559 --> 00:40:23,640
was thing sheds
756
00:40:27,469 --> 00:40:36,279
I met Fred in school and we started
757
00:40:32,179 --> 00:40:36,279
Mesrine like in 1997
758
00:40:40,730 --> 00:40:46,280
for a while we were pretty much the only
759
00:40:43,070 --> 00:40:48,320
two bands around we know everybody from
760
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:51,050
the scene which is from Quebec City to
761
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,700
Montreal even a tower in Toronto it's a
762
00:40:51,050 --> 00:40:54,310
small scene small world
763
00:40:52,699 --> 00:41:02,968
when it's drying core
764
00:40:54,309 --> 00:41:02,969
[Music]
765
00:41:14,309 --> 00:41:20,219
five days you know starting Wednesday
766
00:41:16,739 --> 00:41:22,429
finish like Sunday night 17 hours of
767
00:41:20,219 --> 00:41:22,429
music
768
00:41:29,820 --> 00:41:34,860
this year we had the best festival in
769
00:41:32,130 --> 00:41:36,990
history unit such a great show like sob
770
00:41:34,860 --> 00:41:41,240
to rise early you know the people just
771
00:41:36,989 --> 00:41:41,239
think since first ban till last ban
772
00:41:45,050 --> 00:41:53,199
[Music]
773
00:42:11,699 --> 00:42:18,389
what what's the scene like beer brand
774
00:42:15,750 --> 00:42:21,719
new mix of like metal and punks that
775
00:42:18,389 --> 00:42:24,358
just coming together doing a show man
776
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:28,139
I could get us geo dia the same day we
777
00:42:24,358 --> 00:42:30,029
said [ __ ] up psycho yesterday there
778
00:42:28,139 --> 00:42:32,818
were so many great bands and you don't
779
00:42:30,030 --> 00:42:35,940
expect that kind of bands to play you're
780
00:42:32,818 --> 00:42:38,429
you're part of the world we like the
781
00:42:35,940 --> 00:42:40,318
scene we like to give the chance you
782
00:42:38,429 --> 00:42:42,899
know to play really big stage with
783
00:42:40,318 --> 00:42:45,358
massive sound even for that bands no one
784
00:42:42,900 --> 00:42:47,338
knows because I think you always come to
785
00:42:45,358 --> 00:42:50,929
the option action for big names but then
786
00:42:47,338 --> 00:42:50,929
you are surprised with the small one
787
00:42:52,730 --> 00:42:56,708
[Music]
788
00:42:53,650 --> 00:42:56,709
[Applause]
789
00:42:57,429 --> 00:43:10,690
[Music]
790
00:43:14,579 --> 00:43:17,670
[Music]
791
00:43:18,860 --> 00:43:21,999
[Applause]
792
00:43:26,099 --> 00:43:32,579
it's just getting friends together
793
00:43:29,369 --> 00:43:33,220
drinking beers and having some drank or
794
00:43:32,579 --> 00:43:37,390
moments
795
00:43:33,219 --> 00:43:37,389
[Music]
796
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:51,720
there's no rift it's just like you do
797
00:43:48,929 --> 00:43:52,529
whatever the [ __ ] you there's no real
798
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:56,899
patterns
799
00:43:52,530 --> 00:44:00,090
[Music]
800
00:43:56,900 --> 00:44:02,769
[Applause]
801
00:44:00,090 --> 00:44:05,900
[Music]
802
00:44:02,769 --> 00:44:08,759
you gotta you gotta understand why they
803
00:44:05,900 --> 00:44:09,780
were legendary and why you're not
804
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,580
[Applause]
805
00:44:09,780 --> 00:44:14,690
[Music]
806
00:44:11,579 --> 00:44:14,690
[Applause]
807
00:44:15,219 --> 00:44:21,819
you're playing no score in 2015
808
00:44:18,659 --> 00:44:23,529
you won't be as a jewelry as discharging
809
00:44:21,820 --> 00:44:25,280
with everything you know in the heat the
810
00:44:23,530 --> 00:44:25,820
name
811
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:30,820
[Applause]
812
00:44:25,820 --> 00:44:34,030
[Music]
813
00:44:30,820 --> 00:44:35,380
sort of like a joke - you know it's you
814
00:44:34,030 --> 00:44:37,390
do it for fun you know you can't take
815
00:44:35,380 --> 00:44:39,970
that stuff serious you know and yeah I
816
00:44:37,389 --> 00:44:47,348
think if you take noise core seriously
817
00:44:39,969 --> 00:44:49,598
you're a bit [ __ ] you know what is
818
00:44:47,349 --> 00:44:51,250
happening what is what is going on here
819
00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:51,670
this is just the greatest stuff in the
820
00:44:51,250 --> 00:44:53,469
world
821
00:44:51,670 --> 00:44:55,420
nobody knows how to do what they're
822
00:44:53,469 --> 00:44:58,209
doing and everything's great you know
823
00:44:55,420 --> 00:45:01,210
what how is this not how is this like it
824
00:44:58,210 --> 00:45:03,300
it's reinventing music and not inventing
825
00:45:01,210 --> 00:45:03,300
anything
826
00:45:35,349 --> 00:45:40,420
it makes sense of business girls and
827
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:43,209
bands - what I noticed there's this girl
828
00:45:40,420 --> 00:45:46,000
listening to that kind of music to me
829
00:45:43,210 --> 00:45:49,420
I'm someone in a band enough music ice
830
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:53,320
cream that's it and I never over
831
00:45:49,420 --> 00:45:55,090
analyzed it I never felt and I always
832
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:58,720
felt comfortable you know we're all
833
00:45:55,090 --> 00:46:00,490
metalheads so we we kind of already have
834
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,109
that attitude of like [ __ ] you can't
835
00:46:00,489 --> 00:46:05,259
tell me how to live my life right it
836
00:46:02,110 --> 00:46:10,390
comes with the territory like it so I
837
00:46:05,260 --> 00:46:12,820
think that allows people within our
838
00:46:10,389 --> 00:46:14,469
community to look at me and go awesome
839
00:46:12,820 --> 00:46:15,789
she's doing her own thing she's not
840
00:46:14,469 --> 00:46:18,429
letting people tell her what to do and
841
00:46:15,789 --> 00:46:20,829
so then therefore there's like a lot of
842
00:46:18,429 --> 00:46:24,250
acceptance that at least I I feel I
843
00:46:20,829 --> 00:46:26,619
receive I don't I I haven't felt any
844
00:46:24,250 --> 00:46:29,909
negative responses even though I've seen
845
00:46:26,619 --> 00:46:29,909
them on the internet right
846
00:46:31,699 --> 00:46:35,259
[Applause]
847
00:46:35,409 --> 00:46:38,639
[Music]
848
00:46:40,860 --> 00:46:45,460
taking hormones doesn't change your
849
00:46:43,300 --> 00:46:46,810
vocal chords it doesn't change the size
850
00:46:45,460 --> 00:46:48,670
of them like once they're shaped the
851
00:46:46,809 --> 00:46:52,500
shape that's it so you could get a
852
00:46:48,670 --> 00:46:56,110
surgery to change it but it's wildly
853
00:46:52,500 --> 00:46:59,050
successful so the way I learned to
854
00:46:56,110 --> 00:47:01,750
change my voice was by finding a female
855
00:46:59,050 --> 00:47:04,750
vocalist who was within my range that I
856
00:47:01,750 --> 00:47:07,719
could sing and I would put her CD on in
857
00:47:04,750 --> 00:47:10,690
my car and sing along with her when it
858
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:12,219
comes to doing vocals I'm kind of a
859
00:47:10,690 --> 00:47:14,050
strong believer that you shouldn't
860
00:47:12,219 --> 00:47:16,359
change the vocalist of the band if you
861
00:47:14,050 --> 00:47:19,050
can help it because there's a lot of
862
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,050
character in that
863
00:47:23,108 --> 00:47:28,630
I wanted to do something in between
864
00:47:25,389 --> 00:47:31,118
Scotty you know from repulsion and
865
00:47:28,630 --> 00:47:33,489
Barney from neighbor home death I got to
866
00:47:31,119 --> 00:47:35,680
hang out with Barney a lot and we were
867
00:47:33,489 --> 00:47:37,960
talking about his his vocal delivery and
868
00:47:35,679 --> 00:47:41,440
that it's really hard to mix him because
869
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:44,079
he his vocals are so like projected that
870
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:46,329
they just clip everything right and I
871
00:47:44,079 --> 00:47:49,019
was like that is [ __ ] cool like I
872
00:47:46,329 --> 00:47:49,019
want to do that
873
00:47:59,110 --> 00:48:16,230
[Music]
874
00:48:03,679 --> 00:48:19,649
okay recording every guy all right you
875
00:48:16,230 --> 00:48:20,849
know before this video dies like I just
876
00:48:19,650 --> 00:48:23,010
want to say this coordinates axons it's
877
00:48:20,849 --> 00:48:25,199
the last great evolution of grindcore
878
00:48:23,010 --> 00:48:26,760
they took it to the next level I don't
879
00:48:25,199 --> 00:48:28,929
know where to go after that nobody's
880
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:31,969
taking it and evolved it from that yet
881
00:48:28,929 --> 00:48:31,969
[Music]
882
00:48:39,849 --> 00:48:47,829
we've gone for noisy and and fast and
883
00:48:44,219 --> 00:48:49,329
sometimes they would somehow I always go
884
00:48:47,829 --> 00:48:52,360
tour it after that go towards like a
885
00:48:49,329 --> 00:48:54,549
melody like when I when I listen to a
886
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:57,039
lot of music that I was trying to be
887
00:48:54,550 --> 00:48:57,610
extreme it was like missing the hook you
888
00:48:57,039 --> 00:48:59,380
know what I mean
889
00:48:57,610 --> 00:49:00,940
something that takes you somewhere like
890
00:48:59,380 --> 00:49:02,170
I like music that takes me someplace I
891
00:49:00,940 --> 00:49:04,510
don't want to just listen to it and have
892
00:49:02,170 --> 00:49:06,119
it watch over me you know I I want to
893
00:49:04,510 --> 00:49:09,260
experience it somehow
894
00:49:06,119 --> 00:49:09,259
[Music]
895
00:49:12,539 --> 00:49:17,440
my thing was like as soon as you slow
896
00:49:15,219 --> 00:49:19,389
down yourself it's not that melody is
897
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,769
bad like I mean I didn't want to Basin
898
00:49:19,389 --> 00:49:23,170
the van because I didn't want groove and
899
00:49:20,769 --> 00:49:24,670
rhythm I was so against how mental was
900
00:49:23,170 --> 00:49:26,380
becoming accessible that's why I hated
901
00:49:24,670 --> 00:49:27,579
power violence because it was like three
902
00:49:26,380 --> 00:49:29,170
seconds of what were tough and we're
903
00:49:27,579 --> 00:49:30,519
playing faster than this it's time to
904
00:49:29,170 --> 00:49:32,170
start throwing down and like punching
905
00:49:30,519 --> 00:49:33,880
the floor and being a douche bag hipster
906
00:49:32,170 --> 00:49:35,920
[ __ ] piece of [ __ ] [ __ ] you've
907
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:41,588
power love Islands [ __ ] still get so
908
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:44,440
angry about this before his lyrics were
909
00:49:41,588 --> 00:49:47,170
very personal but very negative in some
910
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:48,550
aspect yeah a lot of people thought we
911
00:49:47,170 --> 00:49:50,230
were really pretentious because we
912
00:49:48,550 --> 00:49:52,480
didn't follow the same guideline that
913
00:49:50,230 --> 00:49:54,068
everyone else did I mean the last album
914
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,469
was a shot from my front yard at the
915
00:49:54,068 --> 00:49:58,239
beach in the sky I I thought it was cool
916
00:49:56,469 --> 00:49:59,439
though like that was the one thing I
917
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:02,068
always strive to be a little different
918
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,068
than everything else
919
00:50:04,789 --> 00:50:13,690
[Music]
920
00:50:11,500 --> 00:50:17,019
our first shows were actually overseas
921
00:50:13,690 --> 00:50:19,369
that was where the most interest in this
922
00:50:17,019 --> 00:50:22,550
foul music was was Japan
923
00:50:19,369 --> 00:50:22,549
[Music]
924
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,119
what I liked about Japan every other
925
00:50:29,139 --> 00:50:32,348
band that played it was like their last
926
00:50:31,119 --> 00:50:34,300
show they were ever gonna play in their
927
00:50:32,349 --> 00:50:36,849
lives every note and every you know
928
00:50:34,300 --> 00:50:37,539
sweat blood and here people just went
929
00:50:36,849 --> 00:50:39,220
for it
930
00:50:37,539 --> 00:50:40,900
you can try to sound Japanese you can't
931
00:50:39,219 --> 00:50:42,189
sound Japanese it's the way their
932
00:50:40,900 --> 00:50:43,539
equipment is the way the rehearsal
933
00:50:42,190 --> 00:50:45,608
spaces are set up it's the way their
934
00:50:43,539 --> 00:50:47,759
shows are set up it's just a different
935
00:50:45,608 --> 00:50:47,759
vibe
936
00:50:58,829 --> 00:51:06,889
heresy from UK heresy and Concord Sox
937
00:51:03,269 --> 00:51:10,309
split album then napalm death scum oh
938
00:51:06,889 --> 00:51:14,849
don't forget sob a fast 7-inch
939
00:51:10,309 --> 00:51:19,130
ultra-fast hardcore raging hardcore the
940
00:51:14,849 --> 00:51:23,809
changes sound a bit and that's why I
941
00:51:19,130 --> 00:51:23,809
started my own band
942
00:51:30,730 --> 00:51:39,519
well Alfre grip started back in 1993
943
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:43,240
there is no grand cuisine how many
944
00:51:39,519 --> 00:51:46,349
people showed up it's not so important
945
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,348
to me you know
946
00:51:51,679 --> 00:51:58,159
I can say there is more bands than 10
947
00:51:55,009 --> 00:52:00,789
years ago but I think it's still
948
00:51:58,159 --> 00:52:00,788
underground music
949
00:52:12,150 --> 00:52:16,980
well we like just leaving the country a
950
00:52:14,670 --> 00:52:18,720
months out and back it in and then it'll
951
00:52:16,980 --> 00:52:20,610
get and then to Japan a month out and
952
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,529
back again these bands like this Christ
953
00:52:20,610 --> 00:52:24,450
that's the old style Turin where you
954
00:52:22,530 --> 00:52:27,090
hook up in a van and drive across Europe
955
00:52:24,449 --> 00:52:29,639
bands like piss cry so I think free laid
956
00:52:27,090 --> 00:52:31,380
the groundwork for other bands from
957
00:52:29,639 --> 00:52:33,119
Australia to just make the contacts over
958
00:52:31,380 --> 00:52:34,619
there first and go look that black hole
959
00:52:33,119 --> 00:52:36,690
organised something for us that local
960
00:52:34,619 --> 00:52:39,650
organize something for us and they do it
961
00:52:36,690 --> 00:52:42,749
and off they go
962
00:52:39,650 --> 00:52:42,749
[Music]
963
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:53,599
[Music]
964
00:52:51,409 --> 00:52:55,538
Australian bands going through Southeast
965
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:59,180
Asia apparently never happened until
966
00:52:55,539 --> 00:53:00,950
Warsaw did it in the 90s and then since
967
00:52:59,179 --> 00:53:02,599
then it's very popular for Australian
968
00:53:00,949 --> 00:53:05,649
bands to go into Southeast Asia
969
00:53:02,599 --> 00:53:05,650
[Music]
970
00:53:11,250 --> 00:53:14,400
[Music]
971
00:53:19,170 --> 00:53:26,019
[Music]
972
00:53:24,309 --> 00:53:28,239
I'm sort of spiking off atop me here
973
00:53:26,019 --> 00:53:31,000
I've done a in-depth analysis of the
974
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:33,279
difference between national grand
975
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:35,980
cosines I felt it's a very international
976
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:37,690
thing actually I felt that you don't I
977
00:53:35,980 --> 00:53:40,329
understand the lyrics you know you don't
978
00:53:37,690 --> 00:53:42,909
have all these things have enabled it to
979
00:53:40,329 --> 00:53:43,900
become more international than actual
980
00:53:42,909 --> 00:53:49,678
national
981
00:53:43,900 --> 00:53:49,679
[Music]
982
00:53:52,500 --> 00:54:09,099
[Music]
983
00:54:05,739 --> 00:54:10,689
Nasim had a hook they'd [ __ ] throw
984
00:54:09,099 --> 00:54:12,880
something in your like clicking with
985
00:54:10,690 --> 00:54:14,950
that I got it I got it I got it got it
986
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:19,800
you know if you can get that hook and
987
00:54:14,949 --> 00:54:19,799
you can just go hit it do it
988
00:54:21,309 --> 00:54:24,500
[Applause]
989
00:54:27,369 --> 00:54:35,659
[Applause]
990
00:54:45,940 --> 00:54:52,900
when you go to France or Spain or South
991
00:54:49,420 --> 00:54:56,440
America they they have some kind of
992
00:54:52,900 --> 00:54:58,610
humor to to it as well but that we just
993
00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:06,240
don't have
994
00:54:58,610 --> 00:55:09,059
[Music]
995
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:12,269
I'm Anders I'm the founding member of
996
00:55:09,059 --> 00:55:14,670
Nasim I played every instrument in this
997
00:55:12,269 --> 00:55:17,039
band starting as a guitarist and a
998
00:55:14,670 --> 00:55:23,099
bassist and then going on to be the
999
00:55:17,039 --> 00:55:25,980
drummer and singer so I've been living
1000
00:55:23,099 --> 00:55:28,470
with this band for more than half of my
1001
00:55:25,980 --> 00:55:30,800
life and it's going to stay with me
1002
00:55:28,469 --> 00:55:30,799
forever
1003
00:55:49,210 --> 00:56:00,769
of course cuz it's dead for one thing
1004
00:55:58,130 --> 00:56:04,309
Mexico would have hated to be a legend
1005
00:56:00,768 --> 00:56:07,879
people have asked me for orders of him
1006
00:56:04,309 --> 00:56:10,190
so he can make us a to his face and I
1007
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:14,539
say don't do it because he would have
1008
00:56:10,190 --> 00:56:16,940
hated it like this really brutal sense
1009
00:56:14,539 --> 00:56:19,190
of humor which would crack me up all the
1010
00:56:16,940 --> 00:56:21,818
time yeah I was I was taking a shower
1011
00:56:19,190 --> 00:56:25,999
and I had this indie pop record on
1012
00:56:21,818 --> 00:56:28,099
really loud and it like then the music
1013
00:56:25,998 --> 00:56:29,179
would get blurred out by the showers I
1014
00:56:28,099 --> 00:56:31,460
could only hear like the bass
1015
00:56:29,179 --> 00:56:34,338
frequencies and that made me think of
1016
00:56:31,460 --> 00:56:36,108
this rare farmer and then he went out of
1017
00:56:34,338 --> 00:56:39,650
the shower and a kid and started like
1018
00:56:36,108 --> 00:56:41,798
playing doing an awesome riff off of
1019
00:56:39,650 --> 00:56:41,798
that
1020
00:56:49,579 --> 00:56:56,690
a huge amount respect for this guy but
1021
00:56:52,610 --> 00:57:00,099
yeah he had a split personality we could
1022
00:56:56,690 --> 00:57:03,289
be the most generous most like inviting
1023
00:57:00,099 --> 00:57:05,929
kind person but he could also be like a
1024
00:57:03,289 --> 00:57:09,800
really arrogant guy that would just be
1025
00:57:05,929 --> 00:57:13,759
like hardcore cold that sucks you suck
1026
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:17,330
and I really enjoyed and feared those
1027
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:19,550
qualities of him I didn't really know
1028
00:57:17,329 --> 00:57:22,279
him there are a lot of other people have
1029
00:57:19,550 --> 00:57:25,160
knowing much much better and have I've
1030
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:28,010
seen another side of him that I didn't
1031
00:57:25,159 --> 00:57:31,099
never saw our relationship was so much
1032
00:57:28,010 --> 00:57:36,830
concentrated in tune awesome and that
1033
00:57:31,099 --> 00:57:41,019
was why I guess it doesn't mean that I
1034
00:57:36,829 --> 00:57:41,019
miss him every [ __ ] week
1035
00:57:47,070 --> 00:57:50,219
[Music]
1036
00:57:53,639 --> 00:57:59,789
we got a phone call from my girlfriend
1037
00:57:56,099 --> 00:58:02,900
not to fine saying do you know anything
1038
00:57:59,789 --> 00:58:05,670
about us cope and
1039
00:58:02,900 --> 00:58:10,050
my immediate thought was that he had
1040
00:58:05,670 --> 00:58:12,450
passed I don't think he had like a week
1041
00:58:10,050 --> 00:58:17,100
of that whole year he had been working
1042
00:58:12,449 --> 00:58:23,009
so hard that he really had to go on this
1043
00:58:17,099 --> 00:58:26,089
vacation and and it's just you know it's
1044
00:58:23,010 --> 00:58:26,090
just not fair
1045
00:58:26,619 --> 00:58:31,640
yes your sister went down to Thailand to
1046
00:58:29,659 --> 00:58:33,559
search for him she didn't find anything
1047
00:58:31,639 --> 00:58:35,389
Mishra's girlfriend wasn't a mess all
1048
00:58:33,559 --> 00:58:37,940
the bones in her body was broken and
1049
00:58:35,389 --> 00:58:40,670
everything so it was quite a strange
1050
00:58:37,940 --> 00:58:44,300
time because you never expect a bad
1051
00:58:40,670 --> 00:58:48,710
memory to dying a natural chemistry that
1052
00:58:44,300 --> 00:58:51,640
doesn't I mean someone can die out of
1053
00:58:48,710 --> 00:58:56,440
the bill in a car crash or whatever but
1054
00:58:51,639 --> 00:58:56,440
by a [ __ ] way woodworker
1055
00:58:57,119 --> 00:59:03,969
like a month and a half before his body
1056
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:07,710
was actually found after that and how I
1057
00:59:03,969 --> 00:59:11,289
was such a is in such an insane
1058
00:59:07,710 --> 00:59:15,909
outpouring of you know support and
1059
00:59:11,289 --> 00:59:19,059
empathy it's indescribable how much
1060
00:59:15,909 --> 00:59:22,839
people cared about this grindcore singer
1061
00:59:19,059 --> 00:59:28,049
in some band you know I I tried to
1062
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:32,760
remember him I said so that's that
1063
00:59:28,050 --> 00:59:32,760
really lively person he was
1064
00:59:36,300 --> 00:59:41,510
after Mishka died it just became this
1065
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:45,019
whole sad or around
1066
00:59:41,510 --> 00:59:47,190
we felt like okay so the 20th
1067
00:59:45,019 --> 00:59:49,289
anniversary would be an opportunity to
1068
00:59:47,190 --> 00:59:53,250
actually do it like in the right way the
1069
00:59:49,289 --> 00:59:55,050
core of the DA was all original so to
1070
00:59:53,250 --> 00:59:57,519
speak not some members who just needed
1071
00:59:55,050 --> 01:00:00,599
someone to sing the song
1072
00:59:57,519 --> 01:00:00,599
[Music]
1073
01:00:03,150 --> 01:00:06,869
before the show he called me up and
1074
01:00:05,159 --> 01:00:08,309
asked if I want to do it and I was like
1075
01:00:06,869 --> 01:00:11,400
yes right away
1076
01:00:08,309 --> 01:00:12,779
I obviously wanted to do it without
1077
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:16,130
understanding how difficult it's
1078
01:00:12,780 --> 01:00:16,130
difficult it's going to be
1079
01:00:30,918 --> 01:00:36,650
I wasn't trying to me I even couldn't
1080
01:00:33,228 --> 01:00:38,659
mimic him one-to-one and I was kind of
1081
01:00:36,650 --> 01:00:42,459
throwing in some of my own things which
1082
01:00:38,659 --> 01:00:42,458
were feeling more natural to me
1083
01:00:48,690 --> 01:00:56,889
[Music]
1084
01:00:50,289 --> 01:00:56,889
[Applause]
1085
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:03,349
in the very beginning we just wanted to
1086
01:01:00,170 --> 01:01:06,619
have high-energy crust grind and we
1087
01:01:03,349 --> 01:01:09,079
looked after sounding a little bit like
1088
01:01:06,619 --> 01:01:11,719
extreme moister on doom what's us making
1089
01:01:09,079 --> 01:01:14,259
it more metal and more fast and more
1090
01:01:11,719 --> 01:01:17,358
furious more aggressive in our way and
1091
01:01:14,259 --> 01:01:21,699
then having metal background just made
1092
01:01:17,358 --> 01:01:21,699
it a little bit bigger song
1093
01:01:23,059 --> 01:01:30,188
[Applause]
1094
01:01:30,449 --> 01:01:33,509
[Music]
1095
01:01:34,489 --> 01:01:37,579
[Applause]
1096
01:01:45,079 --> 01:01:52,719
[Applause]
1097
01:02:01,789 --> 01:02:08,190
by the time the mid-90s are rolled
1098
01:02:04,260 --> 01:02:11,849
around Eric had diversified to the point
1099
01:02:08,190 --> 01:02:14,670
where they were maybe losing the focus
1100
01:02:11,849 --> 01:02:17,970
on what bands put them on the map in the
1101
01:02:14,670 --> 01:02:20,400
first place not not good communication
1102
01:02:17,969 --> 01:02:21,839
they were overseas and we had problems
1103
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,789
when we were doing need to control like
1104
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:28,559
when they lost all the artwork they
1105
01:02:23,789 --> 01:02:29,909
didn't pay us they they sold I'm sure
1106
01:02:28,559 --> 01:02:31,710
they sold only more records than they
1107
01:02:29,909 --> 01:02:33,899
told us they did there was that deal
1108
01:02:31,710 --> 01:02:37,340
that they did with Columbia and somehow
1109
01:02:33,900 --> 01:02:40,230
we didn't fit into their financial
1110
01:02:37,340 --> 01:02:42,630
spreadsheet these bands went from
1111
01:02:40,230 --> 01:02:45,320
nothing literally playing pubs to be on
1112
01:02:42,630 --> 01:02:48,570
Columbia Records napalm death God flesh
1113
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:49,769
carcass it's insane right but that
1114
01:02:48,570 --> 01:02:52,500
actually happened because they were
1115
01:02:49,769 --> 01:02:54,329
selling so many records attractive you
1116
01:02:52,500 --> 01:02:55,920
know the major label scenes this stuff's
1117
01:02:54,329 --> 01:02:59,940
gonna break big next you know and it
1118
01:02:55,920 --> 01:03:03,659
didn't so we felt we weren't getting any
1119
01:02:59,940 --> 01:03:05,760
attention we deserved and that at the
1120
01:03:03,659 --> 01:03:10,009
same time relapse had come up and
1121
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:10,010
relapse had really grown and expanded
1122
01:03:13,500 --> 01:03:16,619
we love has always been good about that
1123
01:03:15,389 --> 01:03:18,598
they've been on the forefront of
1124
01:03:16,619 --> 01:03:21,150
bringing like a lot of extreme stuff
1125
01:03:18,599 --> 01:03:21,980
like with misery index pig destroyer I
1126
01:03:21,150 --> 01:03:26,809
mean
1127
01:03:21,980 --> 01:03:29,420
[Music]
1128
01:03:26,809 --> 01:03:31,849
who trusts them there's been a lot of
1129
01:03:29,420 --> 01:03:33,920
people over the years different people
1130
01:03:31,849 --> 01:03:35,809
running the label but their ethics have
1131
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:38,240
stayed the same we don't even have a
1132
01:03:35,809 --> 01:03:40,519
contract with relapse really it's it's
1133
01:03:38,239 --> 01:03:43,729
just an agreement a gentlemen's
1134
01:03:40,519 --> 01:03:45,860
agreement he actually stopped signing
1135
01:03:43,730 --> 01:03:48,530
gronckle band's later none maybe last
1136
01:03:45,860 --> 01:03:50,120
one was brutal truth 92 or whatever we
1137
01:03:48,530 --> 01:03:52,130
had a four album deal with brutal truth
1138
01:03:50,119 --> 01:03:55,909
and they they kind of preferred working
1139
01:03:52,130 --> 01:03:57,530
with relapse which was okay but it kind
1140
01:03:55,909 --> 01:04:00,559
of rattled me a little bit at the time
1141
01:03:57,530 --> 01:04:02,540
we had a label that we thought was kind
1142
01:04:00,559 --> 01:04:04,940
of getting a tiny bit too apathetic well
1143
01:04:02,539 --> 01:04:07,340
we had another label that lived 150
1144
01:04:04,940 --> 01:04:09,710
miles from us like dude eventually we
1145
01:04:07,340 --> 01:04:11,539
managed to negotiate who was me and Digg
1146
01:04:09,710 --> 01:04:14,690
sitting face-to-face at a conference
1147
01:04:11,539 --> 01:04:16,460
table at Eirik Records in New York and I
1148
01:04:14,690 --> 01:04:19,789
just said look man we would really
1149
01:04:16,460 --> 01:04:21,409
appreciate it if we could just go to a
1150
01:04:19,789 --> 01:04:23,960
label that we feel is gonna be a hundred
1151
01:04:21,409 --> 01:04:27,859
percent behind us right now we were
1152
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:30,019
young and mouthy and he said fair enough
1153
01:04:27,860 --> 01:04:32,980
just don't talk [ __ ] about me like Jeff
1154
01:04:30,019 --> 01:04:36,530
Walker does and Kevin went on to
1155
01:04:32,980 --> 01:04:38,570
hopefully Diggs not like butthurt over
1156
01:04:36,530 --> 01:04:41,300
it anymore man but it was weird for a
1157
01:04:38,570 --> 01:04:42,650
minute you know there were young guys
1158
01:04:41,300 --> 01:04:45,769
they were like committed to what they
1159
01:04:42,650 --> 01:04:47,960
were doing as I was and between us we
1160
01:04:45,769 --> 01:04:49,699
kind of had a good thing going I mean he
1161
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:52,849
went sour and a couple of occasions in
1162
01:04:49,699 --> 01:04:54,619
the intervening like 25 years luckily a
1163
01:04:52,849 --> 01:04:56,670
lot of them are kind of water under the
1164
01:04:54,619 --> 01:04:59,759
bridge now old hat
1165
01:04:56,670 --> 01:04:59,760
[Music]
1166
01:05:03,500 --> 01:05:13,250
so that's what uh well now that it is
1167
01:05:09,309 --> 01:05:14,750
about 17 years later I mean we did make
1168
01:05:13,250 --> 01:05:16,610
a pact at the time that we weren't going
1169
01:05:14,750 --> 01:05:21,019
to discuss it whether the original
1170
01:05:16,610 --> 01:05:23,000
guitar player was poaching money you
1171
01:05:21,019 --> 01:05:26,090
know nothing too wild or anything like
1172
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:27,469
that he's tucking money away and I think
1173
01:05:26,090 --> 01:05:31,160
at the time I was like I don't really
1174
01:05:27,469 --> 01:05:32,619
care you know like but you know let's
1175
01:05:31,159 --> 01:05:35,299
not let him handle the money anymore
1176
01:05:32,619 --> 01:05:37,940
basically we had never had a manager in
1177
01:05:35,300 --> 01:05:39,620
the band different dudes in the bands
1178
01:05:37,940 --> 01:05:41,240
were trying to take care of it we had
1179
01:05:39,619 --> 01:05:43,369
one guy doing all the bad business
1180
01:05:41,239 --> 01:05:44,899
another guy in the band said what the
1181
01:05:43,369 --> 01:05:46,639
[ __ ] are you doing look this receipts
1182
01:05:44,900 --> 01:05:48,170
crumpled up on the windshield here you
1183
01:05:46,639 --> 01:05:49,730
know I'm not getting this ready to go on
1184
01:05:48,170 --> 01:05:51,740
tour unless I take over the business so
1185
01:05:49,730 --> 01:05:53,389
another guy took over the business he
1186
01:05:51,739 --> 01:05:54,379
proceeded to kind of run things into the
1187
01:05:53,389 --> 01:05:56,299
ground because he didn't know what he
1188
01:05:54,380 --> 01:05:57,800
was doing either but because he done
1189
01:05:56,300 --> 01:05:59,570
this hostile takeover he was too proud
1190
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,769
to admit it if you ask the dude running
1191
01:05:59,570 --> 01:06:03,880
into band how much money we got in the
1192
01:06:00,769 --> 01:06:06,289
bank account today I'm just shrug at you
1193
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:08,269
I'm just gonna say that it wasn't me or
1194
01:06:06,289 --> 01:06:10,940
rich you know Dan's really non
1195
01:06:08,269 --> 01:06:14,030
confrontational and it was easier for
1196
01:06:10,940 --> 01:06:16,159
him to dissolve the band than to address
1197
01:06:14,030 --> 01:06:17,540
the thievery this just can't go on
1198
01:06:16,159 --> 01:06:19,250
anymore it's not enjoyable
1199
01:06:17,539 --> 01:06:20,539
I don't play music to make a million
1200
01:06:19,250 --> 01:06:23,090
dollars I play it because I enjoy doing
1201
01:06:20,539 --> 01:06:24,210
it I no longer enjoy this [ __ ] this it's
1202
01:06:23,090 --> 01:06:29,340
over
1203
01:06:24,210 --> 01:06:29,340
[Music]
1204
01:06:35,239 --> 01:06:38,629
[Music]
1205
01:06:40,989 --> 01:06:51,388
[Music]
1206
01:06:54,849 --> 01:07:00,259
[Music]
1207
01:06:56,869 --> 01:07:03,949
in school we were reading old Greek
1208
01:07:00,260 --> 01:07:07,120
texts in one of those texts I found the
1209
01:07:03,949 --> 01:07:09,799
name Agatha class it's a old Greek
1210
01:07:07,119 --> 01:07:12,769
freedom fighter he invited too rich for
1211
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:19,580
a dinner and after dinner he killed them
1212
01:07:12,769 --> 01:07:25,000
all since I got Pablo's yeah yeah and
1213
01:07:19,579 --> 01:07:25,000
also a grandson as regardless
1214
01:07:45,409 --> 01:07:52,889
Archie gothis is a descendant of Agatha
1215
01:07:49,079 --> 01:07:55,349
Cleese the Greek tyrant of Syracuse but
1216
01:07:52,889 --> 01:07:58,230
also our name apparently in Italian
1217
01:07:55,349 --> 01:08:04,139
translates to where did you [ __ ] we've
1218
01:07:58,230 --> 01:08:06,230
been told are cockatoos old gray one so
1219
01:08:04,139 --> 01:08:11,969
we don't really [ __ ] know
1220
01:08:06,230 --> 01:08:11,969
[Music]
1221
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:26,560
at some point a lot of so called grind
1222
01:08:24,069 --> 01:08:29,199
bands started with this homophobic thing
1223
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:31,180
worshipping snuff movies oh yeah you
1224
01:08:29,199 --> 01:08:34,479
have records with dead people on can you
1225
01:08:31,180 --> 01:08:36,880
show me you know and that's totally not
1226
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:38,409
what we mean with grind men score was
1227
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,838
supposed to be just like leftist
1228
01:08:38,409 --> 01:08:44,349
political grind core you know no [ __ ]
1229
01:08:40,838 --> 01:08:48,250
homophobia no sexism no racism taking a
1230
01:08:44,350 --> 01:08:49,870
stance on all that and I don't know I've
1231
01:08:48,250 --> 01:08:53,579
always associated it with having a
1232
01:08:49,869 --> 01:08:53,579
really old-school kind of sound to
1233
01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:04,798
[Music]
1234
01:09:01,259 --> 01:09:07,470
I think of it as a a punk-rock
1235
01:09:04,798 --> 01:09:09,988
politically intention reboot or
1236
01:09:07,470 --> 01:09:13,529
grindcore at this critical moment where
1237
01:09:09,988 --> 01:09:16,379
things were getting to be I think really
1238
01:09:13,529 --> 01:09:19,020
bogged down with a lot of [ __ ] I
1239
01:09:16,380 --> 01:09:21,720
think it's like just intentionally
1240
01:09:19,020 --> 01:09:29,670
avoiding metal attitude I think Minsk or
1241
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:32,909
was a response to like bad ribs it's
1242
01:09:29,670 --> 01:09:34,890
about okay it's Punk man I don't know it
1243
01:09:32,909 --> 01:09:37,500
is political but it also is a sound I
1244
01:09:34,890 --> 01:09:39,420
think it's like second generation you
1245
01:09:37,500 --> 01:09:41,399
know kind of mid score I was born around
1246
01:09:39,420 --> 01:09:43,259
the time I got the cleese was like doing
1247
01:09:41,399 --> 01:09:46,920
some of their first records some kind of
1248
01:09:43,259 --> 01:09:48,420
silly father-son thing they worship your
1249
01:09:46,920 --> 01:10:07,409
bands you know like this like in terms
1250
01:09:48,420 --> 01:10:10,680
of sound right much better yeah you know
1251
01:10:07,409 --> 01:10:15,300
but with like I got strong leftist
1252
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:18,270
political I hear from him a lot of times
1253
01:10:15,300 --> 01:10:20,250
like oh now VIN score is something a
1254
01:10:18,270 --> 01:10:23,130
name I came up with and now there are
1255
01:10:20,250 --> 01:10:23,819
bands making Minsk were like yeah that's
1256
01:10:23,130 --> 01:10:27,210
really crazy
1257
01:10:23,819 --> 01:10:31,109
yeah now we have a splitted event called
1258
01:10:27,210 --> 01:10:33,680
haggis from America new bands playing
1259
01:10:31,109 --> 01:10:33,679
Minsk or
1260
01:10:35,229 --> 01:10:38,309
[Music]
1261
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,939
[Music]
1262
01:10:51,539 --> 01:10:56,220
or grind this is nasty it's guttural it
1263
01:10:54,329 --> 01:10:58,019
make it sounds like they're [ __ ] a
1264
01:10:56,220 --> 01:10:59,760
throwing up [ __ ] chainsaw it is
1265
01:10:58,020 --> 01:11:02,120
ripping through people and the vocals
1266
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,119
are all there
1267
01:11:07,300 --> 01:11:10,418
[Music]
1268
01:11:12,659 --> 01:11:16,529
carcass like really started the whole
1269
01:11:14,670 --> 01:11:18,989
core grind thing I think like just as
1270
01:11:16,529 --> 01:11:21,659
far as like the vocals and just the
1271
01:11:18,989 --> 01:11:23,489
riffing style even just down to like how
1272
01:11:21,659 --> 01:11:26,789
the blast beats are played like it's
1273
01:11:23,489 --> 01:11:30,029
just it all goes back to carcass I'd
1274
01:11:26,789 --> 01:11:31,859
started carcass or attempted to an 85 as
1275
01:11:30,029 --> 01:11:36,210
I got to know Jeff Walker
1276
01:11:31,859 --> 01:11:38,399
I'm guessing towards the end of 86 we
1277
01:11:36,210 --> 01:11:40,289
kind of rekindled the whole thing and
1278
01:11:38,399 --> 01:11:44,059
this was the version of carcass that you
1279
01:11:40,289 --> 01:11:44,060
know people later you know came to know
1280
01:11:48,399 --> 01:12:00,889
[Music]
1281
01:11:57,859 --> 01:12:03,219
Jeff had accessed some they were kind of
1282
01:12:00,890 --> 01:12:05,920
like textbooks for students you know
1283
01:12:03,220 --> 01:12:08,780
students in pathology I think he just
1284
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:10,449
cuss house tons and tons of stuff and
1285
01:12:08,779 --> 01:12:15,670
then created a collage
1286
01:12:10,449 --> 01:12:17,050
[Music]
1287
01:12:15,670 --> 01:12:19,690
I think it was a little bit of
1288
01:12:17,050 --> 01:12:23,529
begrudging respect for the the sleeve
1289
01:12:19,689 --> 01:12:26,559
and how low we were tuned we were using
1290
01:12:23,529 --> 01:12:29,170
a bit of Technology I think it was the
1291
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:30,940
SPX 90 or something once we realized the
1292
01:12:29,170 --> 01:12:32,260
studio had one of those we just went
1293
01:12:30,939 --> 01:12:35,368
nuts on it
1294
01:12:32,260 --> 01:12:35,369
[Music]
1295
01:12:39,819 --> 01:12:44,170
he's like a basically an effect pedal to
1296
01:12:42,099 --> 01:12:46,300
pitch his voice down like at least an
1297
01:12:44,170 --> 01:12:52,179
octave maybe I to to me give it that
1298
01:12:46,300 --> 01:12:53,800
kind of it makes everybody sound like
1299
01:12:52,179 --> 01:12:55,090
the most brutal thing on earth as long
1300
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,800
as you know all you got to do is yell
1301
01:12:55,090 --> 01:12:58,750
into it and it makes you sound like a
1302
01:12:56,800 --> 01:13:01,360
monster more about kind of a fantasy
1303
01:12:58,750 --> 01:13:05,550
element I think to it then and I don't
1304
01:13:01,359 --> 01:13:05,549
mean fantasy like swords and Conan ship
1305
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:08,839
[Music]
1306
01:13:11,399 --> 01:13:19,738
[Music]
1307
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:29,699
[Music]
1308
01:13:32,659 --> 01:13:42,699
[Music]
1309
01:13:48,920 --> 01:14:01,469
[Music]
1310
01:13:58,738 --> 01:14:02,518
like you write about [ __ ] up things in
1311
01:14:01,469 --> 01:14:04,649
your head that you probably wouldn't
1312
01:14:02,519 --> 01:14:06,719
otherwise speak about there's a
1313
01:14:04,649 --> 01:14:09,299
difference between like a band that like
1314
01:14:06,719 --> 01:14:12,929
talks about murder talks about death
1315
01:14:09,300 --> 01:14:16,860
talks about something talks about bleak
1316
01:14:12,929 --> 01:14:18,470
dark scary [ __ ] up [ __ ] that's one
1317
01:14:16,859 --> 01:14:22,338
thing
1318
01:14:18,470 --> 01:14:22,338
[Music]
1319
01:14:39,059 --> 01:14:43,840
place was packed drop-dead just finished
1320
01:14:42,158 --> 01:14:57,009
playing and I missed them because I had
1321
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:58,719
to work and anal [ __ ] up there Seth
1322
01:14:57,010 --> 01:15:17,699
grabs the mic he starts walking around
1323
01:14:58,719 --> 01:15:26,529
the stage the band went on stage and
1324
01:15:17,698 --> 01:15:28,928
ball a some insulted the audience sing
1325
01:15:26,529 --> 01:15:32,609
was Sikh huiling and dropping n bombs
1326
01:15:28,929 --> 01:15:32,609
and saying some really shitty things
1327
01:15:35,969 --> 01:15:39,788
you're not gonna come to Providence and
1328
01:15:38,109 --> 01:15:43,238
pull that [ __ ] the corner of my eye I
1329
01:15:39,788 --> 01:15:45,158
see what I thought was Bob he had his
1330
01:15:43,238 --> 01:15:46,629
face was painted he was painted up like
1331
01:15:45,158 --> 01:15:52,058
a devil or something that night he had
1332
01:15:46,630 --> 01:15:53,889
horns on everything he just knocked
1333
01:15:52,059 --> 01:15:56,050
stuff like Clara down Clara off the
1334
01:15:53,889 --> 01:15:58,090
stage I knocked stuff off the stage and
1335
01:15:56,050 --> 01:16:01,800
then I got the ball with the drama then
1336
01:15:58,090 --> 01:16:01,800
just melee just happens to you
1337
01:16:05,909 --> 01:16:09,408
[Music]
1338
01:16:07,649 --> 01:16:14,479
[Applause]
1339
01:16:09,408 --> 01:16:15,710
I ended up getting arrested my brother
1340
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,448
put a couple of those guys in the
1341
01:16:15,710 --> 01:16:19,189
hospital and turned into an ugly thing
1342
01:16:17,448 --> 01:16:22,729
and a riot happened to be honest with
1343
01:16:19,189 --> 01:16:24,619
you she's got a jail with said I know he
1344
01:16:22,729 --> 01:16:27,379
actually pressed charges against me
1345
01:16:24,619 --> 01:16:30,590
saying that I assaulted him and uh and I
1346
01:16:27,380 --> 01:16:34,329
guess I guess I did Honus forget you're
1347
01:16:30,590 --> 01:16:34,329
not coming to Providence to see Kyle and
1348
01:16:40,300 --> 01:16:44,929
it was a big big problem skinheads back
1349
01:16:43,279 --> 01:16:47,210
in like Boston Providence sorry New
1350
01:16:44,929 --> 01:16:52,429
England area and anal [ __ ] always
1351
01:16:47,210 --> 01:16:54,020
attracted the skin I think so they don't
1352
01:16:52,429 --> 01:16:56,389
know grind they don't know anything
1353
01:16:54,020 --> 01:16:58,190
about it but they love that you know all
1354
01:16:56,389 --> 01:17:08,719
the songs and stuff you know Hitler was
1355
01:16:58,189 --> 01:17:10,250
a sensitive man there you go if we did I
1356
01:17:08,719 --> 01:17:12,920
just [ __ ] with them they'd be like oh
1357
01:17:10,250 --> 01:17:15,619
you know you know they kind of like I'm
1358
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:19,219
like no I'll make it fun of you
1359
01:17:15,619 --> 01:17:25,760
so why aren't Pinkett you I'm making fun
1360
01:17:19,219 --> 01:17:29,658
of you the racists are this there that I
1361
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:32,060
can tell you I can assure you Seth was
1362
01:17:29,658 --> 01:17:34,339
never a racist I was never a racist Mike
1363
01:17:32,060 --> 01:17:37,730
was never a racist fred was never a
1364
01:17:34,340 --> 01:17:39,130
racist Polly was never a racist John was
1365
01:17:37,729 --> 01:17:42,259
never a racist
1366
01:17:39,130 --> 01:17:42,260
[Music]
1367
01:17:43,229 --> 01:17:47,190
I know a lot of stuff was
1368
01:17:44,939 --> 01:17:48,448
tongue-in-cheek you know I know but then
1369
01:17:47,189 --> 01:17:52,228
a lot of that stuff with Southwest
1370
01:17:48,448 --> 01:17:54,868
really legit he was definitely a hateful
1371
01:17:52,229 --> 01:17:56,280
spiteful just angry mess of a human
1372
01:17:54,868 --> 01:17:59,939
being you know what was he like
1373
01:17:56,279 --> 01:18:01,649
hilarious he was a good guy in there he
1374
01:17:59,939 --> 01:18:03,268
was cool they talked about pushing the
1375
01:18:01,649 --> 01:18:04,649
envelope man and was that all
1376
01:18:03,269 --> 01:18:06,719
tongue-in-cheek for him or was he just
1377
01:18:04,649 --> 01:18:08,219
stood yeah he was just like he would
1378
01:18:06,719 --> 01:18:10,019
poke he would just wanted to poke
1379
01:18:08,219 --> 01:18:14,069
everything like he was really [ __ ]
1380
01:18:10,019 --> 01:18:15,659
mentally deranged which was hard me cuz
1381
01:18:14,069 --> 01:18:18,420
I was like really close with the guy for
1382
01:18:15,658 --> 01:18:21,478
years John liked Seth quite a bit and
1383
01:18:18,420 --> 01:18:23,908
and Seth really took him to town for it
1384
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:26,099
to stealing Seth's ideas a book written
1385
01:18:23,908 --> 01:18:38,549
by John Chang that was one of the song
1386
01:18:26,099 --> 01:18:41,010
titles on a record that set with them in
1387
01:18:38,550 --> 01:18:43,650
the into their guest listened and
1388
01:18:41,010 --> 01:18:48,320
there's a bunch of losers that that
1389
01:18:43,649 --> 01:18:50,819
would the other kids this is the guy to
1390
01:18:48,319 --> 01:18:54,029
my knowledge and to what I remember
1391
01:18:50,819 --> 01:18:57,149
Seth's favorite bands of all time or
1392
01:18:54,029 --> 01:19:00,420
negative approach and the Village People
1393
01:18:57,149 --> 01:19:05,689
he loved the Village People he saw the
1394
01:19:00,420 --> 01:19:05,690
Village People more than 30 times
1395
01:19:08,539 --> 01:19:12,979
seth has actually anal concepts stayed
1396
01:19:11,029 --> 01:19:15,649
at my house you know with my wife and
1397
01:19:12,979 --> 01:19:17,269
daughter in it you know there are times
1398
01:19:15,649 --> 01:19:19,489
any turned off and they just be a normal
1399
01:19:17,270 --> 01:19:21,530
person not just a maniac trying to [ __ ]
1400
01:19:19,489 --> 01:19:23,750
with people on the street but that being
1401
01:19:21,529 --> 01:19:24,949
said every time we don't hang out on
1402
01:19:23,750 --> 01:19:27,020
Lansdowne Street or something we'd
1403
01:19:24,949 --> 01:19:28,130
almost get arrested for him just [ __ ]
1404
01:19:27,020 --> 01:19:29,780
with people that are trying to eat in
1405
01:19:28,130 --> 01:19:34,640
the restaurant or something you can
1406
01:19:29,779 --> 01:19:38,449
arrest it often on stage no offstage I
1407
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:40,430
don't I no comment on that one after the
1408
01:19:38,449 --> 01:19:41,539
shows in Philly or at least after one of
1409
01:19:40,430 --> 01:19:42,920
the shows when we were on the way back
1410
01:19:41,539 --> 01:19:44,750
to the house he was like how's the show
1411
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,920
man I was like that's pretty good what
1412
01:19:44,750 --> 01:19:47,930
do you think he's like I don't remember
1413
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:49,579
anything the shows I don't I I don't
1414
01:19:47,930 --> 01:19:51,320
think he like remembers the shows that
1415
01:19:49,579 --> 01:19:52,489
he did you know like I don't think he
1416
01:19:51,319 --> 01:19:54,469
could come offstage and be like oh that
1417
01:19:52,489 --> 01:19:56,329
was good or that softer whatever I think
1418
01:19:54,470 --> 01:19:59,590
when he came off he had no idea what was
1419
01:19:56,329 --> 01:19:59,590
going on you know it blacked out
1420
01:19:59,829 --> 01:20:05,890
the last time I saw it was a sub Club in
1421
01:20:03,470 --> 01:20:08,360
New York and Seth's mom was there and
1422
01:20:05,890 --> 01:20:10,940
after the show we were we were all
1423
01:20:08,359 --> 01:20:13,210
hanging out and Santa asked me if I'd
1424
01:20:10,939 --> 01:20:15,799
met his mom before and I said yeah no I
1425
01:20:13,210 --> 01:20:17,060
grabbed her out of the pit like she was
1426
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:18,289
getting killed by these kids they were
1427
01:20:17,060 --> 01:20:20,539
just crashed into her and she's like
1428
01:20:18,289 --> 01:20:21,710
it's real woman she's like nothing so I
1429
01:20:20,539 --> 01:20:24,170
grabbed her and pulled her out so she
1430
01:20:21,710 --> 01:20:25,699
would stop getting clobbered and and he
1431
01:20:24,170 --> 01:20:27,829
freaked out and he said I'm gonna
1432
01:20:25,699 --> 01:20:29,269
[ __ ] kill you and like everybody in
1433
01:20:27,829 --> 01:20:31,159
the room just sort of stopped because he
1434
01:20:29,270 --> 01:20:33,380
wasn't joking and I remember what he did
1435
01:20:31,159 --> 01:20:35,029
to Terry from grief I mean he hit the
1436
01:20:33,380 --> 01:20:36,500
guy in the face intentionally and
1437
01:20:35,029 --> 01:20:38,539
knocked out half the teeth in his face
1438
01:20:36,500 --> 01:20:40,220
and even his mom was except you know
1439
01:20:38,539 --> 01:20:42,649
what are you doing calm down why are you
1440
01:20:40,220 --> 01:20:44,210
upset and he just like he was insane I
1441
01:20:42,649 --> 01:20:46,969
heard later on he went out got a crack
1442
01:20:44,210 --> 01:20:48,619
and got like high that night like ended
1443
01:20:46,970 --> 01:20:52,240
up sleeping on the street someplace he
1444
01:20:48,619 --> 01:20:52,239
wasn't really [ __ ] disturbed by
1445
01:20:52,859 --> 01:21:12,738
[Music]
1446
01:21:08,448 --> 01:21:15,498
sometimes the stress of touring it could
1447
01:21:12,738 --> 01:21:18,319
do that used to be the full-time think
1448
01:21:15,498 --> 01:21:20,809
as misery index toward you know some
1449
01:21:18,319 --> 01:21:25,788
years we do 200 plus shows in a year and
1450
01:21:20,809 --> 01:21:27,649
that was like the life you know I'm glad
1451
01:21:25,788 --> 01:21:31,009
we don't do that anymore to be honest
1452
01:21:27,649 --> 01:21:34,039
hurry up and wait you know show up bloat
1453
01:21:31,010 --> 01:21:36,320
in wait around play pack up get goin a
1454
01:21:34,038 --> 01:21:38,478
huge thing you know is like drinking
1455
01:21:36,319 --> 01:21:40,788
bands drink like crazy because you're
1456
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:42,619
sitting around all day or beer you know
1457
01:21:40,788 --> 01:21:44,179
there's nothing to do you just slept
1458
01:21:42,618 --> 01:21:46,938
somewhere and it's the biggest [ __ ] Honi
1459
01:21:44,179 --> 01:21:48,859
every slip up in your life on tour we do
1460
01:21:46,939 --> 01:21:50,630
sleep at people's houses and not at
1461
01:21:48,859 --> 01:21:54,618
hotels cuz we can't afford a hotels and
1462
01:21:50,630 --> 01:21:58,819
you wake up in the morning and your
1463
01:21:54,618 --> 01:22:00,799
whole body from inside out is dirty it's
1464
01:21:58,819 --> 01:22:02,148
it's not what people think it is you
1465
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:06,708
know they don't thinks it's this whole
1466
01:22:02,149 --> 01:22:10,699
[ __ ] drug orgy and that sort of thing
1467
01:22:06,708 --> 01:22:12,889
and you know it's a job you know like
1468
01:22:10,698 --> 01:22:15,738
any other but it's just a little
1469
01:22:12,889 --> 01:22:18,458
different whenever someone asked me that
1470
01:22:15,738 --> 01:22:23,288
you guys have had a job my Joey's drops
1471
01:22:18,458 --> 01:22:23,288
it's how could we not
1472
01:22:28,239 --> 01:22:34,460
[Music]
1473
01:22:29,930 --> 01:22:36,350
it's no money to be made maybe that's
1474
01:22:34,460 --> 01:22:39,489
what makes money
1475
01:22:36,350 --> 01:22:42,740
napalm that makes money brittle true
1476
01:22:39,489 --> 01:22:47,329
except that like you're lucky when you
1477
01:22:42,739 --> 01:22:49,250
pu your your gas and your van payments
1478
01:22:47,329 --> 01:22:51,920
you know I mean like I try to do
1479
01:22:49,250 --> 01:22:53,989
everything I can as much as I can but
1480
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:55,789
I'm borrowing money from my friends to
1481
01:22:53,989 --> 01:22:58,939
print t-shirts I'm borrowing money from
1482
01:22:55,789 --> 01:23:00,079
my wife it's arranged in a circle so to
1483
01:22:58,939 --> 01:23:01,879
speak where it's like I'll press at this
1484
01:23:00,079 --> 01:23:03,920
plant and then I'll press the next one
1485
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:05,900
here and then I'll pay this guy and this
1486
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:07,130
guy so you know it's always get person
1487
01:23:05,899 --> 01:23:08,929
two steps behind is always getting paid
1488
01:23:07,130 --> 01:23:12,409
and the records kind of go around a
1489
01:23:08,930 --> 01:23:14,470
circle that way we started out in the
1490
01:23:12,409 --> 01:23:17,689
little unit that was probably as big as
1491
01:23:14,470 --> 01:23:20,000
this little square and then I got a
1492
01:23:17,689 --> 01:23:21,859
bigger one and then we moved into this
1493
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:23,960
one we had to expand into another one
1494
01:23:21,859 --> 01:23:28,369
over there and it keeps growing which is
1495
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:31,819
cool but records is a it's a messy
1496
01:23:28,369 --> 01:23:33,349
business man I think that was what DIY
1497
01:23:31,819 --> 01:23:35,059
was about it was like Moses like being
1498
01:23:33,350 --> 01:23:37,430
about you entrepreneurs and not
1499
01:23:35,060 --> 01:23:38,520
necessarily catering to what big
1500
01:23:37,430 --> 01:23:38,600
companies want
1501
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:42,719
[Music]
1502
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:42,719
[Applause]
1503
01:23:47,460 --> 01:23:50,560
[Music]
1504
01:23:51,359 --> 01:23:54,469
[Applause]
1505
01:23:55,949 --> 01:24:02,019
of course DIY goes long way it can be
1506
01:23:59,949 --> 01:24:04,479
also a lifestyle and in many other ways
1507
01:24:02,020 --> 01:24:06,520
the interviews fanzines spread near
1508
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:08,049
flyers getting the recording sending it
1509
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:10,300
to you mastered getting the artwork all
1510
01:24:08,050 --> 01:24:13,090
together cut all the covers and we made
1511
01:24:10,300 --> 01:24:16,029
it multiple layers but in certainly Oh
1512
01:24:13,090 --> 01:24:17,619
stupid stuff - our - ourselves we tried
1513
01:24:16,029 --> 01:24:20,289
to produce everything coordinate the
1514
01:24:17,619 --> 01:24:22,449
merchandise we booked the flights in
1515
01:24:20,289 --> 01:24:24,430
back then you could count on people to
1516
01:24:22,449 --> 01:24:26,380
actually buy your records like you know
1517
01:24:24,430 --> 01:24:28,210
if they were interested they wanted to
1518
01:24:26,380 --> 01:24:30,460
support you because it was a DIY thing
1519
01:24:28,210 --> 01:24:32,500
they recognized that the kind of content
1520
01:24:30,460 --> 01:24:36,069
you were making would not exist unless
1521
01:24:32,500 --> 01:24:38,770
you did you don't need the big stupid
1522
01:24:36,069 --> 01:24:40,239
labels who rip you off by big contracts
1523
01:24:38,770 --> 01:24:42,220
and blah blah blah try to keep
1524
01:24:40,239 --> 01:24:44,590
everything in your own hands try to work
1525
01:24:42,220 --> 01:24:46,659
with people you've created created a
1526
01:24:44,590 --> 01:24:49,119
network with it's possible because we
1527
01:24:46,659 --> 01:24:51,479
are doing it and we get oh [ __ ] released
1528
01:24:49,119 --> 01:24:51,479
everywhere
1529
01:24:52,689 --> 01:24:57,149
[Applause]
1530
01:24:55,260 --> 01:24:58,650
I was working as a booking agent doing
1531
01:24:57,149 --> 01:25:01,829
booking and management at relapse
1532
01:24:58,649 --> 01:25:03,269
records and there was a guy who I was in
1533
01:25:01,829 --> 01:25:06,569
touch with that organized shows
1534
01:25:03,270 --> 01:25:08,730
somewhere in Michigan and he was doing
1535
01:25:06,569 --> 01:25:11,849
some sort of management for Eyehategod
1536
01:25:08,729 --> 01:25:13,859
who had lost all of their equipment in
1537
01:25:11,850 --> 01:25:16,020
the Katrina who's there there are so
1538
01:25:13,859 --> 01:25:19,799
rooms flooded out this guy put together
1539
01:25:16,020 --> 01:25:21,210
a benefit CD and got in touch with me he
1540
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:23,550
was like hey what brutal truth want to
1541
01:25:21,210 --> 01:25:24,989
do something on this you know because we
1542
01:25:23,550 --> 01:25:26,430
were friends with Eyehategod and played
1543
01:25:24,989 --> 01:25:26,729
tons of shows with them in the past you
1544
01:25:26,430 --> 01:25:34,969
know
1545
01:25:26,729 --> 01:25:36,978
[Music]
1546
01:25:34,969 --> 01:25:39,559
we got together quote-unquote just to
1547
01:25:36,979 --> 01:25:43,519
record that which I think Guren plays on
1548
01:25:39,559 --> 01:25:46,610
Guren came back and played and his chops
1549
01:25:43,519 --> 01:25:49,760
were just rotten so it didn't really
1550
01:25:46,609 --> 01:25:52,238
work out but we decided we wanted to do
1551
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:54,229
it anyways we tried this other guy Jody
1552
01:25:52,238 --> 01:25:57,348
who'd done some stuff and killed a
1553
01:25:54,229 --> 01:25:59,810
client and stuff and it was okay but uh
1554
01:25:57,349 --> 01:26:04,548
Burke was more of a fit
1555
01:25:59,810 --> 01:26:04,548
[Music]
1556
01:26:05,819 --> 01:26:09,719
Eric became a full member of brutal
1557
01:26:08,368 --> 01:26:11,759
truths and then when it was time to
1558
01:26:09,719 --> 01:26:13,529
write I had a great writing partner
1559
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:15,989
because I wrote a lot of stuff back in
1560
01:26:13,529 --> 01:26:18,279
the old days but having Eric and his
1561
01:26:15,988 --> 01:26:23,538
classic fluid style
1562
01:26:18,279 --> 01:26:23,538
[Music]
1563
01:26:24,039 --> 01:26:27,399
the two records I deal with him are
1564
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:29,710
[ __ ] awesome I'm very proud of him
1565
01:26:27,399 --> 01:26:32,439
and I love you know so it was it was
1566
01:26:29,710 --> 01:26:34,210
definitely a good a good feeling I feel
1567
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:37,369
fortunate to play for three of my
1568
01:26:34,210 --> 01:26:47,630
[ __ ] favorite bands you know
1569
01:26:37,369 --> 01:26:47,630
[Applause]
1570
01:26:47,889 --> 01:26:54,529
there a lot of people would call me a
1571
01:26:49,969 --> 01:26:54,869
dick for that you know what so be it I'm
1572
01:26:54,529 --> 01:26:58,099
a dead
1573
01:26:54,869 --> 01:26:58,099
[Applause]
1574
01:27:08,319 --> 01:27:11,449
[Music]
1575
01:27:22,109 --> 01:27:26,920
it was a really good friend of mine and
1576
01:27:24,210 --> 01:27:28,750
we were like brothers really four of us
1577
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:31,239
lived in the same house it was me Danny
1578
01:27:28,750 --> 01:27:34,149
Kezia Mitch lived in the same edge you
1579
01:27:31,239 --> 01:27:35,829
know we wouldn't crank Paul and Jesse
1580
01:27:34,149 --> 01:27:38,649
was it was a regular she's very
1581
01:27:35,829 --> 01:27:45,010
classical guitarist as well Jesse was
1582
01:27:38,649 --> 01:27:48,309
one of nicest guys ever apart from being
1583
01:27:45,010 --> 01:27:51,460
one of the godfathers a grind like
1584
01:27:48,310 --> 01:27:53,110
anybody you have perhaps corners of a
1585
01:27:51,460 --> 01:27:55,239
personality that you know you don't show
1586
01:27:53,109 --> 01:27:57,059
everybody you never drank really that
1587
01:27:55,239 --> 01:27:59,109
much when he came to England I think him
1588
01:27:57,060 --> 01:28:01,510
you know when when you're young and
1589
01:27:59,109 --> 01:28:02,559
fresh young America moving to England I
1590
01:28:01,510 --> 01:28:04,030
think but I think towards the end there
1591
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:06,820
was just a lot of stuff going his head
1592
01:28:04,029 --> 01:28:08,849
with various things and he was drinking
1593
01:28:06,819 --> 01:28:12,309
a little bit more than perhaps he should
1594
01:28:08,850 --> 01:28:14,980
okay I can't pinpoint say the exact
1595
01:28:12,310 --> 01:28:19,030
thing that was going on towards the end
1596
01:28:14,979 --> 01:28:20,439
but it just got very intense I just I
1597
01:28:19,029 --> 01:28:23,609
think it slightly affect he's playing a
1598
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:27,729
little bit really unfortunately and I
1599
01:28:23,609 --> 01:28:30,219
was really concerned for him and kind of
1600
01:28:27,729 --> 01:28:32,609
my suggestion or a suggestion it you go
1601
01:28:30,220 --> 01:28:32,610
back home
1602
01:28:34,380 --> 01:28:42,300
[Music]
1603
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:46,750
I touched him a few times on the phone I
1604
01:28:45,350 --> 01:28:48,890
would saw him a couple of times and
1605
01:28:46,750 --> 01:28:50,340
wasn't quite exactly the Jessi that I
1606
01:28:48,890 --> 01:28:57,000
remember unfortunately
1607
01:28:50,340 --> 01:29:00,730
[Music]
1608
01:28:57,000 --> 01:29:02,890
and then it's sad because away it ended
1609
01:29:00,729 --> 01:29:04,329
with me and him I go Richard we would
1610
01:29:02,890 --> 01:29:07,090
have had more time we hardly would have
1611
01:29:04,329 --> 01:29:11,529
talked things out and who knows what
1612
01:29:07,090 --> 01:29:14,770
could have been but uh it's just uh too
1613
01:29:11,529 --> 01:29:17,219
bad yeah I wasn't even allowed to go
1614
01:29:14,770 --> 01:29:17,220
laughs you know
1615
01:29:19,380 --> 01:29:43,020
[Music]
1616
01:29:34,319 --> 01:29:49,019
oh well that's what you get you [ __ ]
1617
01:29:43,020 --> 01:29:50,340
[ __ ] and then he died lol I guess it
1618
01:29:49,020 --> 01:29:53,310
was kind of a weird thing when he did
1619
01:29:50,340 --> 01:29:55,199
die because we have some friends that
1620
01:29:53,310 --> 01:29:56,580
are like yes of putnams dead because
1621
01:29:55,199 --> 01:29:57,989
he's a total piece of [ __ ] and other
1622
01:29:56,579 --> 01:30:01,470
people that are like god it's a bummer
1623
01:29:57,989 --> 01:30:03,599
you know so I I would hate to be stoked
1624
01:30:01,470 --> 01:30:05,850
about anyone's death you know I don't
1625
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:07,590
think that's a really positive way to
1626
01:30:05,850 --> 01:30:10,110
approach things I don't want to like
1627
01:30:07,590 --> 01:30:12,300
[ __ ] on his memory but like yeah he was
1628
01:30:10,109 --> 01:30:14,670
a [ __ ] scumbag I mean he was like a
1629
01:30:12,300 --> 01:30:16,350
real backstabbing piece of [ __ ] in the
1630
01:30:14,670 --> 01:30:17,159
end of his life I don't know what the
1631
01:30:16,350 --> 01:30:19,230
hell happened
1632
01:30:17,159 --> 01:30:20,819
Seth was a good guy I enjoy partying
1633
01:30:19,229 --> 01:30:23,549
with him and joined hanging out with him
1634
01:30:20,819 --> 01:30:23,729
you know [ __ ] tragedy that happened
1635
01:30:23,550 --> 01:30:28,520
you know
1636
01:30:23,729 --> 01:30:31,649
[Music]
1637
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:33,390
you know we were obviously older and he
1638
01:30:31,649 --> 01:30:35,939
had gone through the coma we got
1639
01:30:33,390 --> 01:30:37,680
together and we we did a 20th
1640
01:30:35,939 --> 01:30:40,049
anniversary show he did a show in town
1641
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:41,550
it was you know and this is one of those
1642
01:30:40,050 --> 01:30:43,949
moments where I'd never thought I'd ever
1643
01:30:41,550 --> 01:30:47,550
see it's like we played in our hometown
1644
01:30:43,949 --> 01:30:50,429
to a [ __ ] sold-out crowd of just
1645
01:30:47,550 --> 01:30:53,130
crazy AC fans I'm like never did that
1646
01:30:50,430 --> 01:30:55,590
ever happen in our town I I can tell you
1647
01:30:53,130 --> 01:30:57,270
that the last time I saw him I'm looking
1648
01:30:55,590 --> 01:30:58,469
I was looking at his face I was looking
1649
01:30:57,270 --> 01:31:01,650
closely at him and I said you're
1650
01:30:58,469 --> 01:31:03,600
jaundiced man we would go in the road
1651
01:31:01,649 --> 01:31:06,569
and he would do things he's you know a
1652
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:09,480
person in a healthy body could shouldn't
1653
01:31:06,569 --> 01:31:14,369
do and he was doing stuff and a body
1654
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:15,689
that had been really [ __ ] and you know
1655
01:31:14,369 --> 01:31:18,840
he would be like I'm gonna go do this
1656
01:31:15,689 --> 01:31:20,789
I'm like hey look man you're an adult
1657
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:22,350
you can do what you want I could kick
1658
01:31:20,789 --> 01:31:27,810
and scream all I want and I can't do
1659
01:31:22,350 --> 01:31:31,640
that anymore when when I his wife called
1660
01:31:27,810 --> 01:31:33,110
me I was not surprised I was
1661
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:38,430
disappointed
1662
01:31:33,109 --> 01:31:38,429
[Music]
1663
01:31:38,658 --> 01:31:44,658
people see that set that you know rolled
1664
01:31:42,559 --> 01:31:48,019
around on stage did a lot of drugs I
1665
01:31:44,658 --> 01:31:49,609
know a guy that he and I would sit and
1666
01:31:48,019 --> 01:31:52,219
watch movies all day or watch The
1667
01:31:49,609 --> 01:31:55,308
Simpsons and [ __ ] eat Chinese food
1668
01:31:52,219 --> 01:31:58,158
and talk about goofy stuff or play music
1669
01:31:55,309 --> 01:32:02,150
or you know that was you know it's my
1670
01:31:58,158 --> 01:32:04,598
friend you know and that's what I miss
1671
01:32:02,149 --> 01:32:06,500
you know I missed that guy you know and
1672
01:32:04,599 --> 01:32:23,809
it's just sucks
1673
01:32:06,500 --> 01:32:26,639
[Music]
1674
01:32:23,809 --> 01:32:29,029
grindcore is kind of I don't think it's
1675
01:32:26,639 --> 01:32:32,279
just a ping what the original bands did
1676
01:32:29,029 --> 01:32:36,328
it's not really that fresh is it I mean
1677
01:32:32,279 --> 01:32:37,889
the future grindcore really is I would
1678
01:32:36,328 --> 01:32:39,899
say some our electronic element I don't
1679
01:32:37,889 --> 01:32:43,289
actually know for sure that someone's
1680
01:32:39,899 --> 01:32:44,399
got to surprise me but if it's not if it
1681
01:32:43,289 --> 01:32:47,779
doesn't include that it wouldn't be very
1682
01:32:44,399 --> 01:32:47,779
contemporary music I don't think
1683
01:32:51,899 --> 01:32:55,129
[Music]
1684
01:33:04,890 --> 01:33:12,160
you know for a while it was a studio
1685
01:33:07,390 --> 01:33:15,700
band we played three songs at a New
1686
01:33:12,159 --> 01:33:17,949
England metal hardcore festival in 2003
1687
01:33:15,699 --> 01:33:19,989
something like that we've had a few
1688
01:33:17,949 --> 01:33:21,760
plans to do it but I should say
1689
01:33:19,989 --> 01:33:27,420
discussions
1690
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:45,820
[Music]
1691
01:33:27,420 --> 01:33:47,649
feel good mr. stage get up yeah pingas
1692
01:33:45,819 --> 01:33:49,029
where was the side project agoraphobic
1693
01:33:47,649 --> 01:33:50,949
was the main thing because we'd already
1694
01:33:49,029 --> 01:33:52,420
had honky Reduction out on relapse and
1695
01:33:50,949 --> 01:33:54,670
they'd already been kind of like a
1696
01:33:52,420 --> 01:33:58,180
ground swell for agoraphobic at that
1697
01:33:54,670 --> 01:34:00,699
point and wins there ever a thought was
1698
01:33:58,180 --> 01:34:03,579
that always there yeah I mean we always
1699
01:34:00,699 --> 01:34:05,529
kind of didn't really want a drummer but
1700
01:34:03,579 --> 01:34:07,029
we did entertain having a drummer and we
1701
01:34:05,529 --> 01:34:10,389
actually I practiced with Dave Witte a
1702
01:34:07,029 --> 01:34:12,250
couple times in the early 90s but I
1703
01:34:10,390 --> 01:34:13,960
think Jay and I just wanted to keep it
1704
01:34:12,250 --> 01:34:15,729
very simple and didn't want to
1705
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:17,289
overcomplicate agoraphobic with playing
1706
01:34:15,729 --> 01:34:19,419
live strangely enough we're gonna need
1707
01:34:17,289 --> 01:34:23,409
some drums like snare and kick up their
1708
01:34:19,420 --> 01:34:26,500
snare kick vocals and probably guitar
1709
01:34:23,409 --> 01:34:29,170
and bass we need a little bit of time
1710
01:34:26,500 --> 01:34:31,810
for the changeover what could go wrong
1711
01:34:29,170 --> 01:34:33,970
tomorrow night oh there's lots that
1712
01:34:31,810 --> 01:34:35,650
could go wrong somebody could spill beer
1713
01:34:33,970 --> 01:34:37,780
on the computer we could have some
1714
01:34:35,649 --> 01:34:39,219
equipment problems unplug a cable
1715
01:34:37,779 --> 01:34:42,309
there's a million cables plugged in
1716
01:34:39,220 --> 01:34:44,260
there could be a fire the cops can come
1717
01:34:42,310 --> 01:34:46,420
and shut this show down somebody could
1718
01:34:44,260 --> 01:34:47,920
have a heart attack I don't know that's
1719
01:34:46,420 --> 01:34:50,170
why I just want to get through this one
1720
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:51,909
gig and see what the what the unforeseen
1721
01:34:50,170 --> 01:34:53,840
things are that can happen hopefully
1722
01:34:51,909 --> 01:34:57,608
nothing hopefully nothing
1723
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:57,609
[Music]
1724
01:35:01,090 --> 01:35:03,119
Oh
1725
01:35:03,340 --> 01:35:07,699
[Music]
1726
01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:27,999
[Applause]
1727
01:35:32,689 --> 01:35:39,509
[Music]
1728
01:36:19,250 --> 01:36:22,939
[Applause]
1729
01:36:25,590 --> 01:36:28,708
[Applause]
1730
01:36:32,810 --> 01:36:40,340
I want it straight forward everything
1731
01:36:36,229 --> 01:36:46,719
[ __ ] red bleeding through everything
1732
01:36:40,340 --> 01:36:48,260
noise just go you know Code Red
1733
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:54,560
hit it
1734
01:36:48,260 --> 01:36:54,560
[Music]
1735
01:37:27,929 --> 01:37:31,230
I don't know what's a ride across from
1736
01:37:30,510 --> 01:37:35,750
the outside
1737
01:37:31,229 --> 01:37:38,339
oh that looks like a pumpkin
1738
01:37:35,750 --> 01:37:42,479
wait we think watermelon is like stuck
1739
01:37:38,340 --> 01:37:48,539
over oh hey I can't go like cantaloupe
1740
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:54,859
or uh coconut yeah cheese has arrived
1741
01:37:48,539 --> 01:37:54,859
well which what the [ __ ] support right
1742
01:38:07,439 --> 01:38:23,988
[Music]
128453
Can't find what you're looking for?
Get subtitles in any language from opensubtitles.com, and translate them here.