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I just loved the sunset strip,
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because it was fun,
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and there were a lot
of things going on,
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and there was a lot
of music going on.
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And I loved to come down
here with my parents,
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especially my dad,
and go to gigs
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and watch them set up.
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And then there was
something very exciting
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about that moment before
the band actually walked on,
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where all the gear was just
sitting there waiting to go.
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My dad was telling me,
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"yeah, well, you were
conceived in Paris.”
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And I guess my mom
and him met there
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and then went to england,
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and I was born in hampstead.
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But my family, my British side
of my family lives in stoke,
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so I lived there.
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And grew up there
for a little while
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and went to school
and hung out in stoke,
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and I think that was the last
vears of stability I ever had.
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And then moved to los
Angeles with my dad.
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My mom was living
in L.A. at the time,
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and I've been here ever since.
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At the time, you
know, 1969, 1970,
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it was an interracial
couple, the hippie thing,
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it was a lot of interesting
things going on.
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I first met slash in 1976
while I was in the fifth grade.
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What I first started
noticing special about slash,
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was his talent for art.
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It was pretty exciting,
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and at that point we were
living in Laurel canyon,
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so we were right in the thick
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of that huge sort of
bohemian creative scene
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that was happening there.
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And my dad was
doing album covers
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for Jackson browne,
and joni Mitchell,
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and a lot of people
up there in the hills,
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and then my mom was doing
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clothes for all these
different entertainers.
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So, I mean, it was
like Linda ronstadt
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and joni Mitchell
were one of them,
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but then she was also doing
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like the pointer sisters, and
she was doing flip Wilson,
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and all these different
kind of entertainers,
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so I was, it was a lot
of fun, sort of being
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raised in that chaos.
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I don't remember
him as a little kid,
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even though I do
know his dad, yeah.
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His dad, I remember his dad
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actually did a lot
of our photography.
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So that was kind of a tight-knit
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bunch of people back there
in Hollywood back then.
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When you look back
at the '60s and stuff,
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a lot of these individuals that
I was sort of raised around
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were really astute,
very intelligent, smart,
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very cool people.
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And it was a very inspired time.
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I think that's the
best way to put it.
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A lot of creativity going on,
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a lot of just brilliant
thinking happening.
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And, yeah, I enjoyed that a lot.
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All these young
comedians, you know,
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I mean Steve Martin
and Albert Brooks,
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all these guys were kids.
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They were all writing for
the smothers brothers show.
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I lived right next door to
Micky dolenz, for the monkees,
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and frank zappa
lived right under us.
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So all those writers, it
was like a pretty tight-knit
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kind of thing.
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But that's when I
first met his dad
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and everything like that.
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My mom was doing
bowie's wardrobe
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for a while there,
and then they became
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sort of an item,
in that sort of,
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in those days, in that
loosey-goosey kind of way.
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He mentioned that
his mom had done
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some things for David bowie
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and different people like that,
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so she was in the industry.
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Soon after that,
we started riding,
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fooling around with bmx bikes,
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and instantly he was a star.
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I took the bike thing,
the bmxing, pretty seriously,
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but there was a
funny dynamic to bmx,
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because we also used to
do a lot of freestyle
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and ride around, well,
all over Los Angeles.
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We would race our bikes
in the valley on weekends,
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and when he'd go off a jump,
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there'd be flashes
going off from everyone,
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because he just had more style,
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he was a little quicker,
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and usually won his races.
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And then on the weekends,
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we would tow over Laurel
canyon into the valley,
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you know, just grab the sides
of cars and go over the hill.
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And there'd be, you
know, any time, anywhere
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from a half dozen to a
dozen of us all in traffic,
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and it was pretty insane.
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And then we'd ride
all the way out
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to Van nuys, I guess it was,
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and compete, and they
had the weekend races,
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and then we'd ride
all the way back
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in the middle of the night
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and come home from
Laurel canyon again.
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So part of it was very
sort of professional,
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and the other part of it was
just simple hell-raising.
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Yeah.
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I was a skateboarder,
he was a bmx bike rider.
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Well, we met in
junior high school.
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I was running around
in my classroom.
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I ran in his classroom, and
his teacher had his finger
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in his face and was telling him
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he was going to be a loser
and a bum all his life.
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And that instant, 1
realized I had somebody else
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that was just like me.
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I met Steve adler
at the school one day,
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and he fell off a skateboard,
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and he looked like
he bit it pretty bad,
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and nobody was concerned
about him,
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he was just laying
flat on his back,
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so I went over to
see if he was okay,
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and he and I struck
up a friendship,
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and it turned out
that his mother
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had kicked him out.
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He was living at Chatsworth,
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and his mother kicked him out,
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and he had been relocated
to his grandparents'
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in west Hollywood, so that's why
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he suddenly turned up.
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And I went over to his place.
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His grandparents
worked in a bakery,
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so they'd leave
early in the morning,
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and we'd ditch school and
go hang out at his place.
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And he had a kiss
alive ii record,
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and he'd put that on this little
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piece-of-shit
stereo that he had,
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and he had a cheap little
electric guitar and an amp,
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and he would crank that
all the way to ten,
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turn the stereo to ten and
just bang on this thing.
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And that was exciting.
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He came over to my
house for the first time,
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and I put on my kiss record,
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and I had a little guitar,
and I started playing it.
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I was actually doing like
two chords and one scale,
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and I just did all my
Ace frehley positions
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and playing it really
loud, and he loved it.
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And he went from riding
bmx bikes to guitar.
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And my grandmother
had one in the closet
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at her apartment, and
she pulled it out,
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and it was a Spanish acoustic,
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and it had one string
on it, and that was it,
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and I started learning
riffs on the one string.
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A guitar with
one string, no less.
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You know, no wonder
he can master
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each string so amazingly.
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And that was really it.
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All of a sudden, I
was just completely
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absorbed in a guitar, I mean,
like a crazy person, you know?
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There was nothing else in life
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that was important
at that point.
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How old were you then?
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I was 14, 15 years old.
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That's quite old, actually.
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Well, like I
said, prior to that,
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I had no inclination to pick
up an instrument, you know?
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And his name, let's
start off with his name,
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how he got his name.
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He's been slash since
we were 13 years old.
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An actor, a friend of ours,
his dad is a big actor,
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and he is the one who
gave him his name.
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His name was Seymour cassel.
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His son was my best friend.
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And when we were in the
last year of junior high,
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the summer before
high school and stuff,
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we used to hang out at
Matt's all the time,
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and I guess Seymour
would see me,
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I mean this was a very
sort of old-school
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sort of rock and roll
household, you know?
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Very liberal.
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And, I mean, we could ditch school
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and hang out at Seymour's,
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and as long as we
prune his pot plants,
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it was okay, you know?
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So I guess, you know, he'd
see me running around,
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and at some point I had
started playing guitar,
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and I was putting bands
together and this and that,
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and so I was always in a hurry,
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always sort of, you know,
never had time to sit and talk,
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and so he just got into the
habit of calling me slash,
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because he always saw me as this
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that went by, you know?
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So he said as a joke,
"you're like a slash.
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"You're here and
then you're there."
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And he just like,
"wow," you know?
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He just like picked up on
this, said, "that's cool,"
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and came up with,
just started saying
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that would make a
good stage name,
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and he started
calling himself slash.
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And he's been slash ever since.
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Everybody called him slash
except for his grandmother.
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There was this great
little music book that I found
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that had, it was like,
I think it was just
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“how to play rock
guitar”, you know,
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which seemed pretty
intriguing at the time,
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and it had a little disc in it,
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and there was a picture
of Hendrix in there,
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there was a picture
of Clapton in there,
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and Mike bloomfield, Jeff Beck,
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like all these guys
that I was really into.
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And I remember looking
at the tablature in there
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and figuring it out,
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and all of a sudden putting
these three notes together
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that sounded like
rock and roll to me,
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and it was like, you
know, that moment
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when the skies part and, "ahhh."
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You know, I mean I'll
never forget that.
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Of course, loved motorhead.
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Went to see them at the
Hollywood palladium, me and slash.
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All I ever wanted to
do after I seen Elvis
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was to be a rock and roll star.
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And whereas the circumstances
have somewhat changed,
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I still love it.
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I love doing that.
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All my dreams came true now.
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Not many people can say that.
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Most people have
to work at a job
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they fuckin' despise
all their lives, right?
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And then you get a frickin'
wristwatch if you're lucky.
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I was very lucky to
get out of that.
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I worked in a
factory for a while.
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My stepfather got me
the job so he could
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keep an eye on me, you know?
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So he grew me there
till they fired me.
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Fuck you, you know?
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I mean, he's more
excited than me,
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because I'm old now, you know?
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Tough to be an old
fuck, you know?
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But he's still
really enthusiastic.
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And I'm enthusiastic about it,
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but like, he's still a kid
in his enthusiasm, you know?
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At the same time, there
was the whole scene going on
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here on sunset and
on Santa Monica,
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and that's what Steven was into,
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and at this point I think
he'd switched over to drums.
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And neither of us had any money,
248
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so he didn't have a drum kit,
249
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and I was, I think the
first electric guitar I got
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was a cheap Memphis
les Paul copy.
251
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So I was already onto the
les Paul from day one.
252
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And then finally
Steven and I ended up
253
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hooking back up together.
254
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He'd finally got a drum
kit, and at that point
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he started dragging me over
here and checking out bands
256
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and it started to
become sort of a habit.
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Well, we used to hang
out at this pizza place
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on Santa Monica and sweetzer,
259
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and they had a juke box there,
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and we would play Van
halen over and over.
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Over and over we
played Van halen,
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aerosmith, that
was pretty much it.
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Van halen and aerosmith over
and over and over.
264
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Well, he told me a
story, that was funny,
265
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the first time we met actually.
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He saw me, when he was 13 years old,
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saw me play at the California
world music festival
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at the coliseum here when my
band's first record came out,
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and we had a hit
song called hold on,
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and he was in the audience,
and he remembers seeing me,
271
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and I thought that
was very amusing.
272
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And that was kind of a starting
point of our friendship.
273
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There were these
girls in the class
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that were full-on sort
of glam rocker chicks,
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and they were sort
of hot, you know?
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Too much makeup, leather
jackets, fingernail Polish,
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jet-black hair, and they
were raving about this band
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motley crue.
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And so one day, and
they had flyers,
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and they would go out and
they would pass flyers.
281
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And I was like, you know,
a little bit jealous.
282
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I was like, "fuck, why can't
I get some chicks to fuckin',"
283
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and I don't even have a
functioning band, you know.
284
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But anyway, so one day they
met Nikki sixx and Tommy Lee
285
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outside the school
giving them flyers,
286
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and they came down in their
full, sort of "rockstumes"
287
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you know I guess you call them.
288
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And I actually went to the
gig that that flyer was for
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and saw motley crue
at the whiskey,
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and they were just phenomenal.
291
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They were like, Nikki knew
how to take everything
292
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that was every kid's
fantasy, you know,
293
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as far as what they wanted
to see in a rock show
294
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from Alice Cooper
to New York dolls
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to Marc bolan and, you
know, to name a few.
296
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But Hollywood
was the place to go,
297
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because there was a scene.
298
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It was a scene,
whether it was punk
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or this kind of the whole thing
300
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with like Rodney
bingenheimer's english disco
301
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and then you had Kim fowley,
302
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and I started hanging
around with him.
303
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It was such a scene in
Los Angeles, you know,
304
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different eclectic
types of musicians,
305
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and I've always loved
the Los Angeles history,
306
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if you know what's happened
on sunset boulevard.
307
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And when I felt I was ready,
308
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I called slash up, and I said,
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"why don't you meet
me Sam and Sydney park
310
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at like 8 o'clock,”
and I went down there,
311
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set my drums up,
and he came down.
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I played for him, and we said,
313
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"okay, we're going to make it."
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You know, at some point,
315
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I remember him saying
there's this band called Rose
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or Hollywood Rose,
and the singer axl,
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or bill at the time, he
was going by bill and Izzy,
318
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really love to get
them in my band.
319
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And then I had
an ad in the paper
320
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looking for a bass
player at one point,
321
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and it turned out to be duff.
322
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And somebody told me about
323
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the recycler newspaper,
that's where you look
324
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for other musicians.
325
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But I went and met slash
and Steve at canter's.
326
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So we're sitting at our booth,
327
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and we're sort of
watching the front door
328
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to see who this
character's going to be
329
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when he walks in,
and eventually,
330
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this literally 6'7 " or 6'6" guy
331
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in a black and red
leather trench coat
332
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walks in with like spiky,
up-to-the-ceiling blonde hair,
333
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and I'm like, "that's
got to be him."
334
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I met them at canter's.
335
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And they had long hair,
336
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and I had like short blue hair,
337
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but they were really like,
slash had a girlfriend,
338
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that was really
like, sweet to me,
339
00:14:48,930 --> 00:14:52,514
and we hung out for probably
two hours at canter's
340
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and just talked about music.
341
00:14:54,811 --> 00:14:58,429
And then we went back
to slash's mom's house,
342
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and he lived in the basement,
343
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and he had a snake,
and he picked up
344
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an acoustic guitar
and started playing.
345
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And I'd never, like,
I'd played with a lot
346
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of guitar players, good
ones, but slash had
347
00:15:11,911 --> 00:15:14,323
like this, he was 19 years
old, and he was playing
348
00:15:14,539 --> 00:15:19,374
like kind of a really
smooth old blues guy.
349
00:15:20,461 --> 00:15:24,454
It like played with so
much age, so much depth
350
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to his musicality.
351
00:15:26,551 --> 00:15:28,837
I was kind of stunned, you know?
352
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And, so really, I mean,
slash and Steve were
353
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the first two guys
ti met here in L.A.
354
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We went up to the bathroom
355
00:15:38,563 --> 00:15:39,973
and polished off
a bottle of vodka,
356
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and we've just been friends
ever since, you know?
357
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Yeah, it was just, you know,
358
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there was just a lot
of different people
359
00:15:45,153 --> 00:15:46,268
coming together then.
360
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Punk rock was over.
361
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There was sort of a, probably
a first wave of metal,
362
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motorhead kind of changed
everything in 1980.
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Like, a lot of things that
weren't okay before 1980
364
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were suddenly okay.
365
00:16:00,543 --> 00:16:04,286
Slash took me to my first
sunset strip show, I guess.
366
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It was at the troubadour.
367
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It was L.A. guns with ax.
368
00:16:09,594 --> 00:16:11,459
Ironically enough,
duff was living
369
00:16:11,679 --> 00:16:12,759
across the street from Izzy
370
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in this cheap apartment,
and so they met,
371
00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,434
and then Izzy and axl
and duff and tracii guns
372
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ended up having a band,
373
00:16:20,938 --> 00:16:23,554
and that ended up being
called guns n' roses,
374
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called Hollywood Rose.
375
00:16:29,989 --> 00:16:31,980
Recently, aerosmith
used a drawing of mine
376
00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,407
for their gate
fold on the album,
377
00:16:34,619 --> 00:16:37,031
and it was a drawing that I did
378
00:16:37,246 --> 00:16:38,907
probably before I
picked up a guitar,
379
00:16:39,123 --> 00:16:40,403
when I was just a fan, you know?
380
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And when I did the drawing,
381
00:16:41,792 --> 00:16:43,703
I'd given it to a friend of mine
382
00:16:43,961 --> 00:16:47,419
who was a massive, like,
die-hard aerosmith fan,
383
00:16:47,632 --> 00:16:49,588
and he'd printed up copies of it
384
00:16:49,842 --> 00:16:51,457
and gave them to
people, I guess.
385
00:16:51,719 --> 00:16:54,461
And one day I was working
in a guitar store,
386
00:16:54,722 --> 00:16:57,680
and I think he had
like blue creepers on,
387
00:16:57,892 --> 00:17:01,601
sparkly black pants, and
a pink leather jacket,
388
00:17:01,812 --> 00:17:03,643
and his hair was all
teased up, you know,
389
00:17:03,856 --> 00:17:06,188
but at the same time
not overdone, very cool,
390
00:17:06,442 --> 00:17:07,628
and he came in and he asked me
391
00:17:07,652 --> 00:17:08,732
"do you have a copy of it?"
392
00:17:08,945 --> 00:17:10,585
And I said no, and
that was the first time
393
00:17:10,780 --> 00:17:12,566
I'd ever met Izzy.
394
00:17:12,949 --> 00:17:16,157
Yeah, then Izzy moved
across the street from me
395
00:17:16,369 --> 00:17:18,325
in Hollywood, and
he was kind of like
396
00:17:18,538 --> 00:17:21,905
the Johnny thunders character,
397
00:17:22,083 --> 00:17:26,998
and axl was this just
sort of really gifted
398
00:17:28,047 --> 00:17:30,129
savant of a singer, you know,
399
00:17:30,341 --> 00:17:33,128
like who sings like that?
400
00:17:34,470 --> 00:17:36,802
But everybody brought
these influences,
401
00:17:36,973 --> 00:17:40,966
everything from like
10cc and nazareth,
402
00:17:41,185 --> 00:17:42,300
we all agreed on motorhead,
403
00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,040
but we all agreed on
each other's music
404
00:17:44,146 --> 00:17:47,684
that we turned ourselves onto.
405
00:17:47,900 --> 00:17:50,767
The saints from Australia
were a big influence
406
00:17:50,987 --> 00:17:55,401
and magazine and nazareth,
407
00:17:55,616 --> 00:17:57,277
I'd never really been introduced
408
00:17:57,493 --> 00:18:00,610
to the deep cuts on
old nazareth records,
409
00:18:00,830 --> 00:18:05,244
and we all agreed on
aerosmith and the dolls.
410
00:18:05,459 --> 00:18:08,542
So I don't think we
looked at our differences,
411
00:18:08,754 --> 00:18:12,292
we just kind of like, the
stuff we had in common,
412
00:18:12,508 --> 00:18:17,172
we really, that
group of five guys
413
00:18:17,388 --> 00:18:19,925
really understood how to excel
414
00:18:20,099 --> 00:18:22,135
at the things we have in common.
415
00:18:22,351 --> 00:18:24,307
I think we were
the only five guys
416
00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,057
in L.A. at the time that
could've made up that band.
417
00:18:27,273 --> 00:18:29,480
Like, we couldn't
wait to go to sleep
418
00:18:29,692 --> 00:18:32,900
so we could wake up
and go rehearse again.
419
00:18:33,070 --> 00:18:34,731
It was that kind of excitement.
420
00:18:34,947 --> 00:18:36,483
So anyways, they
come to canter's,
421
00:18:36,699 --> 00:18:38,564
a, to have a good meal,
which they haven't had
422
00:18:38,784 --> 00:18:41,901
in a little while,
and to do a photo session,
423
00:18:42,121 --> 00:18:43,641
because they had just
booked some gigs,
424
00:18:43,748 --> 00:18:44,891
and they needed to make flyers,
425
00:18:44,915 --> 00:18:48,749
so they took a photo
around the booth,
426
00:18:48,961 --> 00:18:51,452
and the look on that photo
427
00:18:51,672 --> 00:18:53,958
basically shows the
hunger in their eyes,
428
00:18:54,175 --> 00:18:55,711
and they know that
they're a band
429
00:18:55,926 --> 00:18:57,366
to be reckoned with,
and they're here
430
00:18:57,553 --> 00:19:00,966
to fuck up los
Angeles and show them
431
00:19:01,182 --> 00:19:03,764
this is the way to do it.
432
00:19:14,445 --> 00:19:16,185
He'd bring his
guitar over to my house,
433
00:19:16,405 --> 00:19:18,191
and we'd just sit
around and drink,
434
00:19:18,407 --> 00:19:19,692
and he was always
playing guitar,
435
00:19:19,909 --> 00:19:23,151
and kind of, I felt like
he was like a brother,
436
00:19:23,371 --> 00:19:24,514
like a little
brother or something.
437
00:19:24,538 --> 00:19:25,869
I really, really, I loved him.
438
00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,040
I loved his spirit.
439
00:19:27,208 --> 00:19:29,039
I loved how he was
like salt of the earth,
440
00:19:29,251 --> 00:19:31,867
and we really bonded over music,
441
00:19:32,046 --> 00:19:33,081
to be honest with you,
442
00:19:33,297 --> 00:19:34,858
and he told me about
this little band he had,
443
00:19:34,882 --> 00:19:37,214
guns n' roses, like
later when I went
444
00:19:37,426 --> 00:19:39,306
and checked them out, and
I really saw something
445
00:19:39,512 --> 00:19:42,424
magical happening, and
they were still playing
446
00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,258
the roxy and Perkins palace,
447
00:19:46,477 --> 00:19:48,889
but we were still pretty
much just hanging around,
448
00:19:49,063 --> 00:19:52,146
and they recorded
their first record,
449
00:19:52,358 --> 00:19:54,474
which actually Tom
zutaut, who signed them,
450
00:19:54,694 --> 00:19:55,854
had asked me to produce it,
451
00:19:56,028 --> 00:19:57,828
but at the time I was so
strung out on heroin,
452
00:19:57,988 --> 00:20:01,355
I couldn't even fathom the
idea of leaving my house,
453
00:20:01,575 --> 00:20:05,363
much less taking on a
production of a band.
454
00:20:05,579 --> 00:20:07,615
I think I first
heard of slash, I mean,
455
00:20:07,832 --> 00:20:09,059
clearly because
of guns n' roses,
456
00:20:09,083 --> 00:20:11,870
but then from Alice Cooper
songs too that he had played on.
457
00:20:12,044 --> 00:20:13,375
It was my comeback tour.
458
00:20:13,587 --> 00:20:18,047
It was my first time
ever playing Alice sober,
459
00:20:18,259 --> 00:20:19,920
because I had never
done it sober.
460
00:20:20,094 --> 00:20:22,551
So that was the very first show
461
00:20:22,763 --> 00:20:24,594
that guns n' roses
opened for us.
462
00:20:24,807 --> 00:20:29,016
I mean they made no
bones about the influence
463
00:20:29,228 --> 00:20:31,810
we had on them, you know,
464
00:20:31,981 --> 00:20:35,189
as one of the bands
they listened to
465
00:20:35,401 --> 00:20:37,232
when they were coming up.
466
00:20:37,445 --> 00:20:40,312
There was definitely a
mutual admiration society,
467
00:20:40,531 --> 00:20:44,194
because it's really exciting
to see a band like that
468
00:20:44,410 --> 00:20:48,528
that's really good, that's
really paid their dues,
469
00:20:48,748 --> 00:20:52,491
to see them go from
being like a club band
470
00:20:52,710 --> 00:20:55,247
to like, you know, they're on
their way to being headliners
471
00:20:55,463 --> 00:20:57,829
and selling records
left and right.
472
00:20:58,007 --> 00:21:00,589
There's a feeling
there that just never
473
00:21:00,801 --> 00:21:02,541
happens again in your career.
474
00:21:02,762 --> 00:21:04,502
And it was great to
be a witness to that.
475
00:21:04,722 --> 00:21:06,587
I just had an
experience with Joe
476
00:21:06,807 --> 00:21:09,423
that was really cool
where he presented me
477
00:21:09,643 --> 00:21:14,512
with an award in Cleveland
a couple days ago,
478
00:21:14,899 --> 00:21:18,858
and he was just so genuinely,
like his little sort of speech
479
00:21:19,028 --> 00:21:21,064
before I came out
to accept the award,
480
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,647
was talking about his generation
481
00:21:24,867 --> 00:21:26,949
and how I came with the
next generation
482
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,030
and guitarists
and all these very
483
00:21:29,246 --> 00:21:31,578
sort of complimentary
things that he said,
484
00:21:31,791 --> 00:21:35,909
but he was somebody
that when guns n' roses
485
00:21:36,128 --> 00:21:40,588
first opened for
aerosmith in like 1988,
486
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,792
you know, obviously this
guy was a huge hero to me,
487
00:21:43,969 --> 00:21:46,551
but when I met him,
very down-to-earth
488
00:21:46,764 --> 00:21:49,881
and really not so
much what his image
489
00:21:50,059 --> 00:21:53,472
that you got in magazines
and all that kind of thing,
490
00:21:53,687 --> 00:21:57,430
sort of changed my whole
perception of rock stars, you know?
491
00:21:57,650 --> 00:22:01,518
With slash, I mean, his dad
was a well-known designer,
492
00:22:01,737 --> 00:22:03,648
and if you've got David
geffen and David bowie
493
00:22:03,864 --> 00:22:06,071
popping in and
out of your house,
494
00:22:06,283 --> 00:22:08,569
vou know, that's not usual.
495
00:22:08,786 --> 00:22:10,572
Around the time
when I was a kid,
496
00:22:10,788 --> 00:22:14,451
when he was around, he
was just David, you know?
497
00:22:14,667 --> 00:22:19,536
And he was always cool, and my
dad and him got along great,
498
00:22:20,339 --> 00:22:22,625
and I used to love hanging
out at the geffen offices
499
00:22:22,842 --> 00:22:24,548
when it was asylum and before
500
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,296
geffen records actually became.
501
00:22:26,512 --> 00:22:28,924
But then I didn't
talk to him for years.
502
00:22:29,139 --> 00:22:30,629
I guess he kept in
touch with my mom.
503
00:22:30,850 --> 00:22:33,182
We were bound and
determined to make sure
504
00:22:33,394 --> 00:22:36,557
that David geffen didn't
know who Saul Hudson was...
505
00:22:37,606 --> 00:22:39,166
Until he got to a
point where the record
506
00:22:39,233 --> 00:22:41,144
was sufficiently
successful that David
507
00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:44,022
started to want to
know who was involved,
508
00:22:44,238 --> 00:22:46,945
and then David's
sitting there and going,
509
00:22:47,157 --> 00:22:48,613
"this is Saul Hudson?
510
00:22:48,826 --> 00:22:50,441
"It know Saul Hudson.
511
00:22:50,661 --> 00:22:51,888
"What do you mean he's
in one of my bands,
512
00:22:51,912 --> 00:22:52,912
"on one of my labels?
513
00:22:52,955 --> 00:22:54,115
"How did that happen?”
514
00:22:57,376 --> 00:23:00,288
We wanted to avoid
a sense of nepotism.
515
00:23:00,504 --> 00:23:02,790
We wanted to avoid any baggage
516
00:23:02,965 --> 00:23:05,297
that might come with
that and play on that.
517
00:23:05,509 --> 00:23:07,841
He wanted to stand for
himself and stand on his own.
518
00:23:08,012 --> 00:23:10,173
So we kept that entirely quiet.
519
00:23:10,389 --> 00:23:11,754
At some point around that time,
520
00:23:11,974 --> 00:23:13,714
he'd called my mom and said,
521
00:23:13,934 --> 00:23:16,141
"so, how's Tony,",
522
00:23:16,353 --> 00:23:17,684
"how's the kids?"
523
00:23:17,897 --> 00:23:19,603
Said "how's Saul doing?"
524
00:23:19,815 --> 00:23:21,601
Because he knew me by Saul.
525
00:23:21,817 --> 00:23:22,878
And he's like, "well
you should know,
526
00:23:22,902 --> 00:23:23,962
"he's on your record label.”
527
00:23:23,986 --> 00:23:27,274
And he's like, "he's
on our record label?
528
00:23:27,489 --> 00:23:29,730
"What band, what
artist is that?"
529
00:23:29,950 --> 00:23:31,550
And he goes, "well
he's in guns n' roses.
530
00:23:31,660 --> 00:23:32,660
"His name's slash."
531
00:23:32,828 --> 00:23:35,490
But I remember him saying
532
00:23:35,706 --> 00:23:37,662
"yeah, I'm going to
fly out and see you."
533
00:23:37,875 --> 00:23:40,207
And his whole thing was to
come over and manipulate me
534
00:23:40,419 --> 00:23:42,330
into doing an edit of
sweet child o' mine,
535
00:23:42,546 --> 00:23:44,662
because he knew we had
personal relations,
536
00:23:44,882 --> 00:23:46,042
which he never did get,
537
00:23:46,258 --> 00:23:48,624
and I remember him trying to
sort of massage me into this
538
00:23:48,844 --> 00:23:52,837
going, "well, what are you
going to do with all the money?"
539
00:23:53,015 --> 00:23:55,176
And he didn't realize
who he was talking to,
540
00:23:55,392 --> 00:23:57,724
which it had no influence
on me whatsoever,
541
00:23:57,937 --> 00:24:00,474
because I have no, couldn't
give a shit about money.
542
00:24:13,535 --> 00:24:14,775
So he never made a dent.
543
00:24:14,995 --> 00:24:17,452
I'll always remember,
then we never did an edit
544
00:24:17,665 --> 00:24:18,871
for sweet child o' mine.
545
00:24:21,168 --> 00:24:25,036
So we went to the show,
and we were hanging out
546
00:24:25,255 --> 00:24:29,589
backstage or whatever, and
some of the band came out
547
00:24:29,802 --> 00:24:32,293
to sign some
autographs or whatever,
548
00:24:32,513 --> 00:24:36,005
and I think axl came up to
me, or was signing autographs,
549
00:24:37,059 --> 00:24:40,301
and I handed him, slipped
him a little demo tape move.
550
00:24:40,521 --> 00:24:43,479
I remember him walking away,
and he handed it to his
551
00:24:43,691 --> 00:24:45,972
security guy, and his security
guy threw it on the ground.
552
00:24:46,986 --> 00:24:47,986
That was awesome.
553
00:24:48,112 --> 00:24:50,728
Someone said, "oh, yeah, in
the new guns n' roses video,
554
00:24:50,948 --> 00:24:55,066
axl's lying on a table
shaking, talking to a therapist
555
00:24:55,285 --> 00:24:58,493
or something, and he's got
a nirvana hat next to him,
556
00:24:58,706 --> 00:25:00,786
and we're like, "you mean
one of those baseball hats?
557
00:25:00,916 --> 00:25:02,702
"The blue one with
the yellow writing?"
558
00:25:02,918 --> 00:25:05,409
"Yeah, he put it right there,
because he likes your band."
559
00:25:05,629 --> 00:25:09,542
And we couldn't
imagine this dude
560
00:25:09,758 --> 00:25:13,876
liking what we did,
because for the most part,
561
00:25:14,054 --> 00:25:17,512
like, we were the kids who
would get our asses kicked
562
00:25:17,725 --> 00:25:20,592
by the fuckin', like,
big rock and roll guys.
563
00:25:20,811 --> 00:25:23,427
They'd be like, "you're a
fuckin' punk little fag,"
564
00:25:23,647 --> 00:25:25,262
and they'd kick our
asses, you know?
565
00:25:25,482 --> 00:25:27,894
So we were like, "well,
wait, how does that work?"
566
00:25:28,068 --> 00:25:28,727
You know?
567
00:25:28,944 --> 00:25:30,650
It was that transition.
568
00:25:30,863 --> 00:25:32,023
Something was happening.
569
00:25:32,239 --> 00:25:34,946
And I think, what I now realize
570
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,488
is that in some way, we were
all playing rock and roll.
571
00:25:41,081 --> 00:25:42,116
It got weird once.
572
00:25:42,332 --> 00:25:44,573
It got weird at the
mtv awards in 1992.
573
00:25:44,793 --> 00:25:49,753
Axl and Kurt had a
little screaming match.
574
00:25:51,425 --> 00:25:55,134
Duff and krist novoselic
had a moment together.
575
00:25:55,345 --> 00:26:00,214
I was 23 years old and having
the fucking time of my life.
576
00:26:01,310 --> 00:26:04,473
Like, I was born for
chaos, so I thought,
577
00:26:04,688 --> 00:26:08,146
"okay, great, let's do it.”
578
00:26:12,821 --> 00:26:13,965
I would say, "dude, when are you
579
00:26:13,989 --> 00:26:16,230
"going to change
those fucking pants?"
580
00:26:16,450 --> 00:26:18,532
"Oh, the only pair
I brought on tour."
581
00:26:18,744 --> 00:26:21,907
He'd wear the same pair
for a fucking year.
582
00:26:22,081 --> 00:26:24,413
And these were those
guys, you know?
583
00:26:24,625 --> 00:26:29,085
And the hat thing,
that came by accident
584
00:26:30,839 --> 00:26:33,581
I mean, he loved Alice Cooper
and all that, you know.
585
00:26:33,801 --> 00:26:35,291
Who'd worn that hat before?
586
00:26:35,511 --> 00:26:37,467
Marc bolan?
587
00:26:37,679 --> 00:26:40,466
And he got the
hat and put it on,
588
00:26:40,682 --> 00:26:42,593
he liked the way it
looked on him, I guess,
589
00:26:42,810 --> 00:26:45,517
and people started
recognizing him,
590
00:26:45,729 --> 00:26:47,811
and he had his thing.
591
00:26:47,981 --> 00:26:51,940
It's like lemmy, you
know, they got a uniform,
592
00:26:52,152 --> 00:26:55,235
and that's who they are,
and they wake up like that.
593
00:26:55,447 --> 00:26:57,487
Like I used to say fuckin'
slash wakes up like that.
594
00:26:58,659 --> 00:27:03,619
But he would fuckin'
wake up on the tour bus,
595
00:27:04,414 --> 00:27:07,281
same guy he was, you know,
596
00:27:07,501 --> 00:27:08,937
I remember the first
time I joined the band
597
00:27:08,961 --> 00:27:12,419
I went to get in the
shower after the show.
598
00:27:12,631 --> 00:27:14,121
And like, "what are you doing?"
599
00:27:14,341 --> 00:27:16,002
I'm like, "I'm
getting in the shower.
600
00:27:16,218 --> 00:27:18,129
"Gettin the gig
butt out," you know?
601
00:27:18,345 --> 00:27:21,178
And they're like, "why?"
602
00:27:22,975 --> 00:27:25,466
I mean, they were dirty,
filthy scoundrels, man.
603
00:27:25,686 --> 00:27:27,347
Dirty, filthy
fuckin' scoundrels.
604
00:27:27,563 --> 00:27:31,226
And I was wearing top
hats, you know, 1968, '67,
605
00:27:31,441 --> 00:27:36,356
you know, and I thought that,
I had a corner on the top hat.
606
00:27:38,657 --> 00:27:40,943
But, I mean, it was a top hat.
607
00:27:41,118 --> 00:27:42,233
Who cares?
608
00:27:42,452 --> 00:27:44,292
You know, I mean I, but
every time I saw slash,
609
00:27:44,413 --> 00:27:45,723
I thought maybe he
wore it a couple times,
610
00:27:45,747 --> 00:27:46,486
and all of a sudden he
wore it all the time,
611
00:27:46,707 --> 00:27:48,447
and I went, "well,
okay, you can have it."
612
00:27:49,626 --> 00:27:51,287
And I looked at him and I said,
613
00:27:51,503 --> 00:27:52,868
"what do you want from this?
614
00:27:53,881 --> 00:27:55,121
"What's your expectation?
615
00:27:55,340 --> 00:27:57,126
"What are you looking for?"
616
00:27:57,926 --> 00:28:00,668
And he sat back and he said
the most perfect thing.
617
00:28:00,888 --> 00:28:03,345
He said, "I want to
be recognizable."
618
00:28:05,058 --> 00:28:07,219
And I would say that's
a watershed moment
619
00:28:07,436 --> 00:28:08,556
in my relationship with him.
620
00:28:08,770 --> 00:28:10,874
I would say that's the moment
where I sat back and went,
621
00:28:10,898 --> 00:28:12,618
"okay, I'm dealing with
a really intelligent
622
00:28:12,774 --> 00:28:14,480
"live wire here."
623
00:28:14,693 --> 00:28:16,649
That's what he wants.
624
00:28:16,862 --> 00:28:19,820
He's not like Lars in
his autobiography, saying
625
00:28:19,990 --> 00:28:23,949
his dream come true was
the first orgy he was in.
626
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,030
He's saying, "I want
to be recognizable.”
627
00:28:26,246 --> 00:28:30,330
Joe Perry was more of
an influence on the image
628
00:28:30,542 --> 00:28:33,204
that slash was, Joe
Perry always looked cool,
629
00:28:33,420 --> 00:28:35,331
and slash was always
about being cool.
630
00:28:35,547 --> 00:28:39,085
I think he's going
to be an iconic figure,
631
00:28:39,301 --> 00:28:42,919
because he adopted a look
very quick, you know,
632
00:28:43,931 --> 00:28:47,219
like along with
"slash," you know,
633
00:28:47,434 --> 00:28:51,598
like picking out a cool rock
and roll name very early on.
634
00:28:51,813 --> 00:28:55,556
To hold on to that and
hold on to that thing
635
00:28:55,776 --> 00:29:00,645
about rock and roll, I mean
he's made out of the stuff.
636
00:29:00,864 --> 00:29:02,320
I mean, you see the silhouette
637
00:29:02,532 --> 00:29:03,760
and the les Paul
guitar, and you're like,
638
00:29:03,784 --> 00:29:05,194
we all know that's slash.
639
00:29:05,410 --> 00:29:07,696
We came back from
that appetite tour.
640
00:29:07,913 --> 00:29:11,701
At least in my memory, there
was no Internet then, right?
641
00:29:11,917 --> 00:29:15,751
So you didn't know what
was going on in L.A.
642
00:29:15,963 --> 00:29:19,330
But we got back, I looked
at a band magazine,
643
00:29:19,549 --> 00:29:21,710
which was a magazine then
644
00:29:21,927 --> 00:29:23,463
that everybody
would advertise in,
645
00:29:23,679 --> 00:29:26,546
and everybody had
like, cowboy boots on,
646
00:29:26,765 --> 00:29:31,680
bandanas, ripped jeans,
leather vests, looked like us.
647
00:29:32,479 --> 00:29:35,892
I'm in London,
and I can't remember
648
00:29:36,066 --> 00:29:38,022
why I was over there,
but I see this fuckin'
649
00:29:38,235 --> 00:29:41,022
bus go by with fuckin'
slash on it, right?
650
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,521
It's like "guitar hero!"
651
00:29:44,992 --> 00:29:46,698
And I call slash and I go,
652
00:29:46,910 --> 00:29:50,494
"dude, you're on the side
of a double-Decker bus!"
653
00:29:50,706 --> 00:29:53,066
He's like, "I know, I should've
asked for a lot more money."
654
00:29:55,168 --> 00:29:57,534
Here we are at velvet
revolver shows, right?
655
00:29:57,754 --> 00:30:00,837
And I look out in the audience,
and I see a lot of kids.
656
00:30:01,008 --> 00:30:03,124
Like, long-haired little
15-year-old dudes,
657
00:30:04,011 --> 00:30:05,467
and then they come backstage,
658
00:30:05,679 --> 00:30:10,298
and they're like, "hey,
slash, we love you, man!"
659
00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:12,515
"Hey, kid, how'd you
find out about slash?"
660
00:30:13,854 --> 00:30:15,264
"Guitar hero."
661
00:30:15,522 --> 00:30:16,802
He's just sitting in the corner,
662
00:30:16,940 --> 00:30:18,500
and we kind of didn't
really notice him,
663
00:30:18,650 --> 00:30:20,481
because he's so, like,
kind of blends in.
664
00:30:20,694 --> 00:30:22,980
And he just gets up with a
couple of beautiful women,
665
00:30:23,196 --> 00:30:24,902
and we were just so like,
666
00:30:25,073 --> 00:30:26,609
and he goes, "hey,
who are you guys?"
667
00:30:26,825 --> 00:30:28,361
And we're like, and
it was as if slash
668
00:30:28,577 --> 00:30:29,804
was standing and talking to you.
669
00:30:29,828 --> 00:30:31,180
We were all kind of
looking at him like,
670
00:30:31,204 --> 00:30:32,614
"we're from Canada.”
671
00:30:32,831 --> 00:30:34,116
You know, it's like, "oh, wow!"
672
00:30:34,333 --> 00:30:35,693
He's like the mayor
of the rainbow.
673
00:30:35,751 --> 00:30:37,103
He's just going around,
"hey, how are you?"
674
00:30:37,127 --> 00:30:40,244
When the resurgence of
this sunset thing happened,
675
00:30:40,464 --> 00:30:45,208
all of a sudden it was
hairspray, glam, big shows.
676
00:30:45,427 --> 00:30:49,670
Bands that weren't even great
bands were doing great shows.
677
00:30:49,890 --> 00:30:54,759
They were stuck in the
middle of that sea of shit,
678
00:30:55,187 --> 00:30:59,100
because there was so much
shit you had to Wade through
679
00:30:59,316 --> 00:31:02,149
in order to appreciate
what they were doing.
680
00:31:02,361 --> 00:31:04,727
I mean, most of those
bands had just become
681
00:31:04,946 --> 00:31:06,857
a parody of music.
682
00:31:07,032 --> 00:31:10,945
Bands like poison,
bands like warrant,
683
00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:15,032
bands like, you know that
were doing great shows.
684
00:31:15,248 --> 00:31:19,287
Cinderella, bon
jovi, motley criie.
685
00:31:19,503 --> 00:31:20,913
I mean every band had a look,
686
00:31:21,129 --> 00:31:24,166
and they were
attitude all the way.
687
00:31:24,383 --> 00:31:26,840
The guns n' roses
guys were trying
688
00:31:27,010 --> 00:31:29,797
to be their heroes, you know,
689
00:31:29,971 --> 00:31:33,054
whether it was Johnny
thunders or sid vicious
690
00:31:33,266 --> 00:31:38,181
or Steven Tyler or John
bonham, whatever it was.
691
00:31:38,397 --> 00:31:40,854
I mean, you know, it's
clear that their roots
692
00:31:41,024 --> 00:31:44,937
were in something
substantial and real.
693
00:31:45,112 --> 00:31:46,832
When people ask me
what about rock and roll,
694
00:31:46,988 --> 00:31:48,899
what is going on
in rock and roll?
695
00:31:49,074 --> 00:31:51,656
I say I can only name you
five rock and roll bands.
696
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,776
I said this band, you
know, what slash is
697
00:31:54,996 --> 00:31:57,282
and those conspirators
are a rock and roll band.
698
00:31:57,499 --> 00:31:59,330
The Foo Fighters are
a rock and roll band.
699
00:31:59,543 --> 00:32:01,454
We're a rock and roll band.
700
00:32:02,629 --> 00:32:04,915
This band, the
stripes, from Ireland,
701
00:32:05,132 --> 00:32:06,463
great rock and roll band.
702
00:32:06,675 --> 00:32:10,293
How the fuck is some kid
in Springfield, Virginia,
703
00:32:10,512 --> 00:32:13,925
going to relate to
some guy who's got
704
00:32:14,099 --> 00:32:16,340
more hair than your sister?
705
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,391
And he's fuckin'
got more makeup on
706
00:32:18,603 --> 00:32:20,844
than your fuckin' mom.
707
00:32:21,022 --> 00:32:23,559
You know, if you have
a banjo and an accordion
708
00:32:23,775 --> 00:32:25,606
in your band, you're
not a rock band, okay?
709
00:32:26,736 --> 00:32:28,818
How does that apply
to my fucking life?
710
00:32:28,989 --> 00:32:29,989
You know?
711
00:32:30,198 --> 00:32:31,813
I get it, man, if
I need to escape,
712
00:32:31,992 --> 00:32:33,112
I'll fuckin' take some acid.
713
00:32:33,326 --> 00:32:34,326
It's all good.
714
00:32:34,411 --> 00:32:36,447
And then grunge happened
after that, you know,
715
00:32:36,663 --> 00:32:38,528
which was just the opposite.
716
00:32:39,875 --> 00:32:43,538
There was a point when I
wanted to go to Seattle
717
00:32:43,753 --> 00:32:45,209
and take all the grunge bands,
718
00:32:45,422 --> 00:32:47,708
put them in buses and
take them to Disneyland.
719
00:32:47,924 --> 00:32:49,334
Music was kind of changing,
720
00:32:49,551 --> 00:32:51,832
and those guys were a big part
of that, I think, you know?
721
00:32:51,928 --> 00:32:55,546
And what happened in
Seattle happened after that
722
00:32:55,765 --> 00:32:58,598
as well as a musical
change kind of everywhere,
723
00:32:58,810 --> 00:33:04,601
and you know, to be that
lightning rod sort of a band,
724
00:33:04,900 --> 00:33:07,767
you know, I don't
think they expected it.
725
00:33:19,581 --> 00:33:20,861
I could tell you one great story
726
00:33:20,916 --> 00:33:22,531
that he doesn't even
know, I don't think.
727
00:33:22,751 --> 00:33:27,620
On hey stoopid, I know
this about guitar players.
728
00:33:28,632 --> 00:33:30,497
When they first hear a song,
729
00:33:30,717 --> 00:33:33,709
their first impression is
their best impression of it.
730
00:33:33,929 --> 00:33:38,844
And I played, I said, "why
don't we run this track,
731
00:33:39,351 --> 00:33:42,718
"and you just riff with
it and get a feel of it?"
732
00:33:42,938 --> 00:33:45,645
I told the engineer,
"tape this."
733
00:33:47,567 --> 00:33:49,774
We did 30 other takes,
734
00:33:49,986 --> 00:33:52,352
and at one point I went, "oh
that last one was perfect."
735
00:33:52,572 --> 00:33:54,383
And it was like this,
and he was a little tired
736
00:33:54,407 --> 00:33:55,567
and everything at this point.
737
00:33:55,617 --> 00:33:57,983
We used the original.
738
00:33:58,203 --> 00:34:02,867
The run-through tape was the
exact perfect guitar solo.
739
00:34:03,041 --> 00:34:04,451
I broughtin a
lot of guest players,
740
00:34:04,668 --> 00:34:07,751
Eddie Van halen, Steve
vai, Michael landow
741
00:34:07,963 --> 00:34:09,203
on the other side of things.
742
00:34:09,422 --> 00:34:11,834
And I shook it up
with different guests,
743
00:34:12,008 --> 00:34:13,748
Edgar winter, I got
old-school guys,
744
00:34:13,969 --> 00:34:15,129
I got new-school.
745
00:34:15,345 --> 00:34:17,677
I like to mix it all up
and see what happens,
746
00:34:17,889 --> 00:34:20,471
and I wrote a song specifically,
747
00:34:20,684 --> 00:34:23,426
actually with him in
mind to play on it.
748
00:34:23,645 --> 00:34:24,914
What I wish I wrote
with Stan lynch
749
00:34:24,938 --> 00:34:26,874
the drummer in Tom petty and
the heartbreakers, right?
750
00:34:26,898 --> 00:34:28,729
It was called broken
heart for Christmas.
751
00:34:28,942 --> 00:34:29,982
And he just can't, I said,
752
00:34:30,193 --> 00:34:31,963
"would you come and play
on this song for me?"
753
00:34:31,987 --> 00:34:33,747
And he's like, he showed
up and he was great.
754
00:34:33,905 --> 00:34:36,612
He just did one take,
and I let it go.
755
00:34:36,825 --> 00:34:38,745
I mean, you know, when
you take a guy like slash,
756
00:34:38,910 --> 00:34:41,697
you don't try to get
all microscopic on it.
757
00:34:41,913 --> 00:34:43,619
He goes, "what do
you want me to do?"
758
00:34:43,832 --> 00:34:45,413
I go, "be you."
759
00:34:45,792 --> 00:34:46,792
And that's what he did.
760
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,292
I was not a jammer, but
slash would always get up
761
00:34:49,504 --> 00:34:50,584
and play with other people,
762
00:34:50,755 --> 00:34:52,791
and one of the very first times
763
00:34:52,966 --> 00:34:55,127
that we ever did do that,
764
00:34:55,343 --> 00:34:57,143
I remember we played at
some teeny little club
765
00:34:57,345 --> 00:34:58,630
down by Santa Monica,
766
00:34:58,847 --> 00:35:02,135
and it was half his
band, half my band,
767
00:35:02,350 --> 00:35:04,261
and we did a sex pistols song.
768
00:35:09,941 --> 00:35:12,557
The phone rang, and
my mom comes in the room,
769
00:35:12,777 --> 00:35:17,441
she says, "there's someone
on the phone named slush.”
770
00:35:17,657 --> 00:35:20,774
I was really up
against the wall,
771
00:35:20,994 --> 00:35:22,734
and we needed to find somebody.
772
00:35:22,954 --> 00:35:24,910
I started thinking about
who's the best drummer
773
00:35:25,081 --> 00:35:29,950
that I'd seen in a band ever.
774
00:35:30,503 --> 00:35:31,503
You know?
775
00:35:31,546 --> 00:35:32,786
I said, "what's going on?"
776
00:35:32,964 --> 00:35:37,173
And he says to me, "we're
looking for someone
777
00:35:37,385 --> 00:35:38,841
"to play on the record.
778
00:35:39,012 --> 00:35:41,754
"Stevie adler's in treatment,
779
00:35:41,973 --> 00:35:44,555
"and we're trying
to get him together
780
00:35:44,768 --> 00:35:47,054
"enough to do a tour at least.”
781
00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:49,727
Because at that time,
appetite for destruction,
782
00:35:49,939 --> 00:35:52,976
they'd spent about four
years trying to figure out
783
00:35:53,193 --> 00:35:54,808
how to spend all their
money doing drugs.
784
00:35:54,986 --> 00:35:56,186
No, I'm just kidding.
785
00:35:56,363 --> 00:35:58,570
He came down, and we
started working together
786
00:35:58,782 --> 00:36:01,819
and just became
really good friends,
787
00:36:01,993 --> 00:36:05,952
and obviously we went on
to tour together for years
788
00:36:06,164 --> 00:36:07,495
and went on to do
velvet revolver,
789
00:36:07,707 --> 00:36:09,060
and we're still
really good friends.
790
00:36:09,084 --> 00:36:11,291
Me and slash wrote this record
791
00:36:11,503 --> 00:36:12,983
which became the
first snakepit album.
792
00:36:13,171 --> 00:36:15,207
It was actually me
and him together.
793
00:36:15,423 --> 00:36:17,379
And we were really
close, you know?
794
00:36:17,592 --> 00:36:18,903
And I would be
able to talk to him
795
00:36:18,927 --> 00:36:20,883
and be brave enough
to show him something
796
00:36:21,054 --> 00:36:22,794
that I had an idea
on the guitar,
797
00:36:22,972 --> 00:36:25,008
and he'd be like,
"oh, okay, man."
798
00:36:25,225 --> 00:36:27,216
You know and I'd be
like, "okay."
799
00:36:27,936 --> 00:36:31,929
And slash says, "I want
to do a fuckin' record
800
00:36:32,107 --> 00:36:33,938
"with this material.”
801
00:36:34,109 --> 00:36:36,441
And I'm like, "yeah,
fuckin' let's do it!"
802
00:36:37,946 --> 00:36:40,483
You know, it's like, "come on!"
803
00:36:40,699 --> 00:36:42,134
And I go, "what are
we going to call it?"
804
00:36:42,158 --> 00:36:43,886
And he's like, "we're
going to call it snakepit."”
805
00:36:43,910 --> 00:36:44,444
it was snakepit.
806
00:36:44,661 --> 00:36:45,946
Good name.
807
00:36:46,121 --> 00:36:47,861
I had ended working with guns
808
00:36:48,039 --> 00:36:49,225
where I had done a
thing called snakepit
809
00:36:49,249 --> 00:36:50,455
where I got to sort of go back
810
00:36:50,667 --> 00:36:52,828
and just sort of
simplify everything
811
00:36:53,002 --> 00:36:55,334
and just play in these
raw little places.
812
00:36:55,547 --> 00:36:58,459
And it was just, it was
really, it was a lot of fun.
813
00:36:58,675 --> 00:37:00,131
It was a huge shot
in the arm for me,
814
00:37:00,343 --> 00:37:03,301
but it was also giving
a perspective on things.
815
00:37:03,513 --> 00:37:05,845
You know, we would
record all this material
816
00:37:06,015 --> 00:37:07,118
before we ever had a singer,
817
00:37:07,142 --> 00:37:08,142
so we had an idea of how
818
00:37:08,268 --> 00:37:10,429
to sort of do sections of riffs,
819
00:37:10,645 --> 00:37:12,405
and, "okay, we're going
to do that 16 times,"
820
00:37:12,522 --> 00:37:16,231
and we would say, "here's
a chorus, blah blah blah.”
821
00:37:16,443 --> 00:37:20,482
So we did those records
use your illusion I and ii
822
00:37:20,697 --> 00:37:23,985
all instrumentally, and
the first snakepit album
823
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,067
all instrumentally,
and then we set out
824
00:37:27,287 --> 00:37:28,823
in search of a singer,
825
00:37:30,081 --> 00:37:32,288
and I was actually
in New York when
826
00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:34,228
he picked the singer
that he put on the album,
827
00:37:34,252 --> 00:37:36,584
which we had a little
bit of a squabble about.
828
00:37:36,838 --> 00:37:38,544
I didn't really
care for it much.
829
00:37:39,424 --> 00:37:40,664
And I remember I got very drunk
830
00:37:40,717 --> 00:37:43,003
and drove over to his house
and climbed over his fence.
831
00:37:44,721 --> 00:37:46,461
He wouldn't let me in.
832
00:37:46,681 --> 00:37:49,047
I was like, "fuckin I'm
coming in there, man!"
833
00:37:49,267 --> 00:37:50,507
He was like, "no, you're not.”
834
00:37:50,727 --> 00:37:51,466
And I'm like, "fuck yes I am."
835
00:37:51,686 --> 00:37:53,722
So I climbed over his fence,
836
00:37:53,938 --> 00:37:56,304
and it had like, you know,
these little spikes on the top,
837
00:37:56,524 --> 00:37:58,435
and I remember I slipped,
838
00:37:58,651 --> 00:38:00,571
and my fuckin' jacket, I
had this leather jacket,
839
00:38:00,737 --> 00:38:03,353
got caught, and I was like
hanging off his fence.
840
00:38:03,573 --> 00:38:06,155
And he came out and said,
841
00:38:06,367 --> 00:38:08,323
"oh, fuck, man,
come on," you know,
842
00:38:08,536 --> 00:38:11,403
he's, slash is very low-key.
843
00:38:11,623 --> 00:38:13,454
"Come in here, man,
have a drink," you know.
844
00:38:13,666 --> 00:38:15,156
At the end of velvet revolver,
845
00:38:15,376 --> 00:38:20,291
when we saw it going
south with Scott,
846
00:38:21,758 --> 00:38:23,168
there was a band,
we were, you know,
847
00:38:23,384 --> 00:38:26,501
slash got himself out
of a pretty dark spot
848
00:38:26,763 --> 00:38:28,549
right in between
those two records,
849
00:38:28,765 --> 00:38:30,301
and he was just ready to play,
850
00:38:30,517 --> 00:38:33,054
and when it started
going south with Scott,
851
00:38:33,269 --> 00:38:37,888
I could see like if
slash had to stop playing
852
00:38:38,066 --> 00:38:40,557
and us go on another
year-and-a-half long
853
00:38:40,777 --> 00:38:42,108
search for a singer.
854
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,063
After the sort of
rock and roll turmoil,
855
00:38:46,282 --> 00:38:47,613
if you will, of velvet revolver,
856
00:38:47,826 --> 00:38:49,487
because we got into ourselves
857
00:38:49,702 --> 00:38:51,909
into another situation
with another singer,
858
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,867
I was like, "what are we,
859
00:38:55,041 --> 00:38:56,952
"guys that like to
marry strippers?
860
00:38:57,168 --> 00:38:58,203
"What is this?"
861
00:38:58,419 --> 00:38:59,859
You know, it's like you know
862
00:38:59,963 --> 00:39:02,204
what you're going to get when
you get into it, you know?
863
00:39:02,423 --> 00:39:03,538
What the fuck?
864
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,416
I mean, we knew the guy
was a piece of work,
865
00:39:06,636 --> 00:39:10,470
but those kind of crazy
fuckers make great front men,
866
00:39:10,682 --> 00:39:12,513
vou know what I mean?
867
00:39:12,725 --> 00:39:14,966
And when we signed
up for the deal,
868
00:39:15,186 --> 00:39:19,270
it was like this is going
to be fuckin' crazy.
869
00:39:19,482 --> 00:39:20,722
Okay, here we go.
870
00:39:21,860 --> 00:39:24,351
And you know, it lasted
a good amount of time
871
00:39:24,571 --> 00:39:25,777
before it imploded.
872
00:39:25,989 --> 00:39:27,900
Myles was a guy that we found
873
00:39:28,074 --> 00:39:31,407
for velvet revolver, but
it was an altar bridge,
874
00:39:31,619 --> 00:39:33,655
and Myles, just the
nicest guy in the world,
875
00:39:33,872 --> 00:39:35,792
he's like, "man, I would
love to be in your band,
876
00:39:35,874 --> 00:39:38,365
"but I'm in a full-time
band, and I would feel
877
00:39:38,585 --> 00:39:41,918
"like I'd be kind of chopping
them below the knees."
878
00:39:42,088 --> 00:39:47,003
Velvet revolver, I think
it was the summer of 2002,
879
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,835
that was the first time
we spoke on the phone.
880
00:39:50,013 --> 00:39:53,505
And I think I was just
a name that had come up,
881
00:39:53,725 --> 00:39:56,888
and I know they'd sent
out quite a few demos
882
00:39:57,061 --> 00:40:00,178
to a few people, and
they sent me one.
883
00:40:00,398 --> 00:40:03,606
And I worked on it
for about two weeks.
884
00:40:03,818 --> 00:40:04,978
They were like four songs,
885
00:40:05,194 --> 00:40:08,607
and so it's kind
of a long story,
886
00:40:08,823 --> 00:40:11,656
but I basically pulled
out, never sent it back.
887
00:40:11,868 --> 00:40:15,952
I just felt like
at that point I was
888
00:40:16,122 --> 00:40:17,828
the wrong guy for the job.
889
00:40:17,999 --> 00:40:22,914
I'd spent five years with
my band the Mayfield four,
890
00:40:23,254 --> 00:40:26,621
and I think I just, I was
a bit crestfallen,
891
00:40:26,841 --> 00:40:28,961
and I was a bit disillusioned
with the music industry,
892
00:40:29,010 --> 00:40:31,296
and something of that magnitude,
893
00:40:31,512 --> 00:40:34,003
especially, you know,
with those guys,
894
00:40:34,223 --> 00:40:36,930
I was like, "eh, I don't
think this is the right thing
895
00:40:37,143 --> 00:40:40,306
"for me at this point in my,
at this juncture," as they say.
896
00:40:40,521 --> 00:40:41,931
One of our most favorite tours,
897
00:40:42,148 --> 00:40:44,935
let's put it that way, was
touring with velvet revolver,
898
00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:48,567
you know, and when we
were kind of coming out
899
00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:49,940
with black gives way to blue,
900
00:40:50,114 --> 00:40:52,981
so, we spent a lot of
time together on that.
901
00:41:04,754 --> 00:41:07,917
He crashed a
pathfinder on sunset,
902
00:41:08,925 --> 00:41:11,337
rolled it over about ten times.
903
00:41:13,972 --> 00:41:15,052
Like that.
904
00:41:15,264 --> 00:41:17,242
And you know, typical slash
back in the day, you know?
905
00:41:17,266 --> 00:41:19,882
If you recognize him like that.
906
00:41:20,061 --> 00:41:21,061
He'd drive home drunk.
907
00:41:21,229 --> 00:41:22,829
One night he got pulled
over by the cops.
908
00:41:22,981 --> 00:41:24,041
Cops got him out of the car.
909
00:41:24,065 --> 00:41:25,646
He's fuckin' barely standing up.
910
00:41:25,858 --> 00:41:28,941
"Hey, slash, can we take
our picture with you?"
911
00:41:30,989 --> 00:41:33,651
Fuckin' cops like
this with slash.
912
00:41:33,866 --> 00:41:36,903
"Now just get home now."
913
00:41:37,078 --> 00:41:40,036
You put that guy back
in the fucking car?
914
00:41:40,248 --> 00:41:41,248
Are you kidding me?
915
00:41:43,376 --> 00:41:45,332
You know, fringe
benefits of the hat,
916
00:41:45,545 --> 00:41:46,545
vou know what I mean?
917
00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:52,506
I think one of the best things
918
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,927
that's happened to him
is his heart problem.
919
00:41:56,973 --> 00:41:59,305
He wears a pacemaker.
920
00:41:59,517 --> 00:42:04,227
And that has obviously
changed his playing field.
921
00:42:04,439 --> 00:42:11,857
Slash and I both struggled
with outside things,
922
00:42:12,071 --> 00:42:17,065
drugs and alcohol and
both lived through it,
923
00:42:17,869 --> 00:42:20,201
which is kind of
incredible in itself.
924
00:42:20,413 --> 00:42:26,784
And we've had a lot of friends
of ours fall by the wayside
925
00:42:27,128 --> 00:42:28,789
on the way here.
926
00:42:28,963 --> 00:42:32,296
I believe if he would've
tried to stick around
927
00:42:32,508 --> 00:42:35,124
in guns n' roses when
axl was in charge of it
928
00:42:35,344 --> 00:42:38,802
back in 1996, I truly
think he'd be dead.
929
00:42:38,973 --> 00:42:43,933
Guy said, "back in 1985,
they caught slash out here
930
00:42:44,479 --> 00:42:46,811
"totally naked running
through the golf course.
931
00:42:46,981 --> 00:42:48,812
"He was staying right
there in that room,
932
00:42:48,983 --> 00:42:50,314
"and he was on acid,
933
00:42:50,526 --> 00:42:52,366
"and he didn't know where
he was and all that."
934
00:42:54,155 --> 00:42:57,022
That slash was not
going to survive
935
00:42:57,241 --> 00:42:58,606
to play what he's playing now.
936
00:42:58,826 --> 00:43:02,364
Well, he's just at a
different answer than me.
937
00:43:03,831 --> 00:43:06,743
You know, he never
even bought me dinner.
938
00:43:06,959 --> 00:43:10,872
And he's got a
pacemaker, you know.
939
00:43:11,047 --> 00:43:12,753
So he came over to sympathize
940
00:43:12,965 --> 00:43:15,627
and point out what
you shouldn't do,
941
00:43:15,843 --> 00:43:18,334
like, I shouldn't
fibrillate, apparently,
942
00:43:18,554 --> 00:43:20,920
or it goes "vroom!"
943
00:43:21,140 --> 00:43:23,677
He wouldn't go to the hospital.
944
00:43:23,893 --> 00:43:25,533
I don't know if you
know the story or not,
945
00:43:25,728 --> 00:43:28,686
but it was a tour
manager that punched him,
946
00:43:28,898 --> 00:43:30,684
knocked him out,
and dropped him off
947
00:43:30,900 --> 00:43:33,858
at the hospital in Pittsburgh
after he spoke to me.
948
00:43:34,028 --> 00:43:36,269
And I showed up,
and we were there,
949
00:43:36,489 --> 00:43:37,695
and the doctor looked at me,
950
00:43:37,907 --> 00:43:39,384
and we weren't married
yet at the time,
951
00:43:39,408 --> 00:43:41,740
and he said, "I'm sorry, but
he's got either six days,
952
00:43:41,953 --> 00:43:45,161
"six weeks, or six months.
953
00:43:45,373 --> 00:43:48,865
"And there's not
much we can do."
954
00:43:49,043 --> 00:43:51,375
So, we did everything
that they possibly could.
955
00:43:51,587 --> 00:43:52,872
This was in Pittsburgh.
956
00:43:53,047 --> 00:43:54,537
We were there for a few weeks,
957
00:43:54,799 --> 00:43:56,505
and then we flew back to L.A.,
958
00:43:56,759 --> 00:43:57,919
went to another hospital.
959
00:43:58,094 --> 00:44:00,585
They wanted to give
him a heart transplant.
960
00:44:00,805 --> 00:44:05,299
I'm not one to follow direction
961
00:44:05,518 --> 00:44:10,433
or listen to even doctors that
much, to tell you the truth,
962
00:44:10,815 --> 00:44:12,815
and we left that hospital,
went to another hospital
963
00:44:12,984 --> 00:44:15,191
where they gave him
the defibrillator,
964
00:44:15,403 --> 00:44:18,315
and he was playing
with Michael Jackson,
965
00:44:18,531 --> 00:44:19,987
and the pyrotechnics went off,
966
00:44:20,199 --> 00:44:22,611
and he thought he
was getting blasted
967
00:44:22,827 --> 00:44:24,567
or shocked from all
the pyrotechnics.
968
00:44:24,787 --> 00:44:26,243
He didn't realize that it was
969
00:44:26,455 --> 00:44:28,036
the defibrillator going off,
970
00:44:28,249 --> 00:44:29,929
because the doctors
didn't set it properly.
971
00:44:29,959 --> 00:44:32,666
They didn't realize how fast
his heart rate would go.
972
00:44:32,879 --> 00:44:34,710
So the thing's firing on him.
973
00:44:34,922 --> 00:44:36,458
He's like, "whoa, 1
thought, you know,
974
00:44:36,674 --> 00:44:38,193
"those pyrotechnics,
were they that hard?
975
00:44:38,217 --> 00:44:40,583
"Because I felt like
they were blasting me."
976
00:44:40,803 --> 00:44:42,339
When we got back to L.A.,
977
00:44:42,555 --> 00:44:44,091
we went to have it read,
978
00:44:44,307 --> 00:44:46,468
the doctor says that
it was going off.
979
00:44:46,684 --> 00:44:48,845
Coming back from all
that's pretty impressive.
980
00:44:49,020 --> 00:44:50,164
And he's still there, you know,
981
00:44:50,188 --> 00:44:51,519
he's a very well-read guy.
982
00:44:51,731 --> 00:44:53,811
He's reading war novels when
he's not playing guitar.
983
00:44:54,483 --> 00:44:58,192
And then in 2008,
I started realizing
984
00:44:58,404 --> 00:44:59,610
I needed to get sober.
985
00:44:59,822 --> 00:45:02,564
Ti don't know who to call.
986
00:45:02,783 --> 00:45:06,571
Slash had quite a few
years being sober,
987
00:45:06,829 --> 00:45:08,365
and he's always been
here to help me,
988
00:45:08,581 --> 00:45:12,449
and actually Dr. drew
called slash for me,
989
00:45:12,668 --> 00:45:16,456
and we met, and I got
to apologize to him
990
00:45:16,672 --> 00:45:17,941
for all the things
that happened,
991
00:45:17,965 --> 00:45:21,878
he apologized to me, and
he's helped me, you know,
992
00:45:22,053 --> 00:45:23,634
get through some hard times.
993
00:45:23,846 --> 00:45:25,211
I remember when
994
00:45:25,431 --> 00:45:27,191
like I asked him to go
out with me one night,
995
00:45:27,350 --> 00:45:28,806
I remember when I called him,
996
00:45:28,976 --> 00:45:32,013
and he just had his first kid.
997
00:45:32,230 --> 00:45:34,892
I said, "come on, slash,
meet me at crazy girls."
998
00:45:35,066 --> 00:45:38,558
He goes, "I'm
babysitting tonight."
999
00:45:38,778 --> 00:45:41,235
And right then I was
like, "it's over."
1000
00:45:41,447 --> 00:45:43,438
First of all, I never imagined
1001
00:45:43,658 --> 00:45:47,150
that I'd be a father
living in Los Angeles,
1002
00:45:47,370 --> 00:45:49,235
but I sure as shit
never imagined
1003
00:45:49,455 --> 00:45:52,618
that I'd be playing a
school fundraiser with slash
1004
00:45:52,833 --> 00:45:55,540
in front of the
principals and the parents
1005
00:45:55,753 --> 00:45:58,916
of a kindergarten.
1006
00:45:59,090 --> 00:46:01,832
Just when I thought life
couldn't get any fuckin' weirder,
1007
00:46:02,009 --> 00:46:05,251
I'm fucking jamming
a stones song
1008
00:46:05,471 --> 00:46:08,258
with a bunch of mothers
from the preschool
1009
00:46:08,474 --> 00:46:10,089
dancing barefoot in front of me.
1010
00:46:10,309 --> 00:46:11,515
That's one thing that I think
1011
00:46:11,727 --> 00:46:15,265
that guys like slash
have it in their favor.
1012
00:46:15,481 --> 00:46:18,223
They've seen a lot of people
in the business, you know,
1013
00:46:18,442 --> 00:46:20,524
that have turned
it into a career
1014
00:46:20,736 --> 00:46:22,376
and may have been able
to live through it,
1015
00:46:22,488 --> 00:46:25,400
and see that there
is a possibility
1016
00:46:25,616 --> 00:46:26,635
if you play your cards right,
1017
00:46:26,659 --> 00:46:28,115
you can actually have a career.
1018
00:46:28,327 --> 00:46:30,192
You can actually raise
a family around it.
1019
00:46:30,413 --> 00:46:32,074
You can actually
have a real life
1020
00:46:32,290 --> 00:46:36,203
and still be that
crazy, rebellious,
1021
00:46:36,419 --> 00:46:39,877
very close to being
madman on stage
1022
00:46:40,047 --> 00:46:43,665
that you have to be, to
be what rock and roll is.
1023
00:46:43,884 --> 00:46:48,548
I think now,
family is important.
1024
00:46:48,764 --> 00:46:51,676
You know, people say that
when the kids are small,
1025
00:46:51,892 --> 00:46:53,928
it's the harder time,
but we both tend
1026
00:46:54,145 --> 00:46:54,930
to disagree with that.
1027
00:46:55,146 --> 00:46:56,373
Now that they're getting older,
1028
00:46:56,397 --> 00:46:59,139
the demands are
higher with them.
1029
00:46:59,358 --> 00:47:01,849
So I think the future holds,
1030
00:47:02,028 --> 00:47:05,520
or well at least hopefully
my future holds
1031
00:47:05,740 --> 00:47:08,607
for papa to be around
a little bit more,
1032
00:47:08,826 --> 00:47:10,441
as we call him, the curly daddy.
1033
00:47:11,203 --> 00:47:12,693
I think he's really,
1034
00:47:12,913 --> 00:47:15,655
he's got one of the best bands
I've ever heard behind him,
1035
00:47:15,875 --> 00:47:17,456
he can't go wrong.
1036
00:47:17,668 --> 00:47:20,910
And he's got that guy
singing for him, you know,
1037
00:47:21,964 --> 00:47:23,545
what's his frickin'?
1038
00:47:23,758 --> 00:47:26,670
Myles, he's a frickin'
great singer, man.
1039
00:47:26,886 --> 00:47:28,501
Unworldly, really.
1040
00:47:28,846 --> 00:47:31,428
This is a cohesive unit
at this point, you know.
1041
00:47:31,682 --> 00:47:32,967
I think Myles is
a killer singer,
1042
00:47:33,184 --> 00:47:34,578
and they write great
songs together,
1043
00:47:34,602 --> 00:47:35,933
there's a great chemistry.
1044
00:47:36,228 --> 00:47:40,437
And he seems to be, I think
he's going to eclipse his past.
1045
00:47:40,649 --> 00:47:44,141
I think he found the great
lineup finally, you know,
1046
00:47:44,362 --> 00:47:47,570
I've seen him go through
different itinerations, you know?
1047
00:47:47,782 --> 00:47:51,024
And this time, I think
he's really nailed it.
1048
00:47:51,243 --> 00:47:52,653
He's got a great singer,
1049
00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:56,488
and they've got between
them, I think they've got
1050
00:47:56,707 --> 00:47:59,915
a long way to go, they've got
a lot of music inside them
1051
00:48:00,127 --> 00:48:02,368
that, you know, when
they start writing more,
1052
00:48:02,588 --> 00:48:07,457
I think they're going to,
I hope they stay together,
1053
00:48:07,676 --> 00:48:08,796
because they're really good.
1054
00:48:08,969 --> 00:48:11,506
And I think the guys
that he has playing with him
1055
00:48:11,722 --> 00:48:14,555
are a really good
band, and I think
1056
00:48:14,767 --> 00:48:16,247
it's a very comfortable
thing for him,
1057
00:48:16,310 --> 00:48:19,097
and that's really probably
what's most important, you know?
1058
00:48:19,313 --> 00:48:21,520
And he's making music
that he likes to play.
1059
00:48:21,732 --> 00:48:23,814
It's still what gets him
up out of bed every day.
1060
00:48:23,984 --> 00:48:25,474
He loves the guitar.
1061
00:48:25,694 --> 00:48:27,104
He loves rock and roll.
1062
00:48:27,321 --> 00:48:28,936
And to me that's very pure,
1063
00:48:29,115 --> 00:48:31,697
and I think that that's,
and I think people see that.
1064
00:48:31,909 --> 00:48:33,240
I think that's what they feel,
1065
00:48:33,452 --> 00:48:35,659
and that's why
he's where he's at,
1066
00:48:35,871 --> 00:48:37,202
that's why he's slash.
1067
00:48:37,415 --> 00:48:39,226
You're not going to take
that guitar out of his hand.
1068
00:48:39,250 --> 00:48:40,930
You're not going to
pry it out of his hand.
1069
00:48:41,085 --> 00:48:42,791
Nothing's going to
make him stop playing.
1070
00:48:42,962 --> 00:48:45,829
So whether it's guns n'
roses if that happens,
1071
00:48:46,006 --> 00:48:47,462
or what he's doing now,
1072
00:48:47,675 --> 00:48:49,085
or some other version of it,
1073
00:48:49,301 --> 00:48:50,507
he's always going to do that,
1074
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,086
and that is a gift to the fans,
1075
00:48:54,306 --> 00:48:57,423
and that is honesty,
and we don't get a lot
1076
00:48:57,643 --> 00:48:59,179
of honesty in this
business, you know?
1077
00:48:59,395 --> 00:49:01,351
A lot of people doing
it for the money,
1078
00:49:01,564 --> 00:49:03,667
a lot of people doing it for
this reason and that reason.
1079
00:49:03,691 --> 00:49:05,227
He is only doing
it because he loves
1080
00:49:05,443 --> 00:49:07,855
that goddamn les Paul
to death, you know?
1081
00:49:08,028 --> 00:49:09,564
Probably doesn't love anything
1082
00:49:09,780 --> 00:49:11,862
as much as he loves
that les Paul.
1083
00:49:12,241 --> 00:49:13,981
You know, music is his mistress.
1084
00:49:14,201 --> 00:49:15,486
It's number one.
1085
00:49:19,123 --> 00:49:20,863
I had this '59 les Paul,
1086
00:49:21,041 --> 00:49:23,953
and I sold it for
Christmas money,
1087
00:49:24,170 --> 00:49:26,912
and then I just kind of
counted it gone, you know?
1088
00:49:27,131 --> 00:49:30,589
And then after the
band got back together,
1089
00:49:30,801 --> 00:49:32,837
I got a call from a Johnson,
1090
00:49:33,012 --> 00:49:36,971
he said, "I heard that this
guitar might possibly be yours."
1091
00:49:37,183 --> 00:49:38,410
He described it
to me, and I said,
1092
00:49:38,434 --> 00:49:39,924
"yeah, that sounds
like the one."
1093
00:49:40,102 --> 00:49:43,185
And he asked if I
wanted to buy it back.
1094
00:49:43,397 --> 00:49:45,638
I didn't have the
bread at that point.
1095
00:49:45,858 --> 00:49:47,064
I guess he went on to sell it,
1096
00:49:47,318 --> 00:49:50,185
and I lost track
of it for years.
1097
00:49:51,697 --> 00:49:53,107
I started making enough money
1098
00:49:53,324 --> 00:49:56,111
where I was able to kind of
fill in my collection again,
1099
00:49:56,327 --> 00:49:58,659
and I was thinking maybe
I could find that guitar.
1100
00:49:58,871 --> 00:50:01,783
So we searched around,
and I spread the word,
1101
00:50:01,957 --> 00:50:04,664
and one day at
rehearsal, Brad said,
1102
00:50:04,877 --> 00:50:06,208
"oh, I know where
that guitar is."
1103
00:50:06,420 --> 00:50:09,708
And he showed me a copy
of guitar player magazine
1104
00:50:09,924 --> 00:50:12,131
I think it was, and
the center spread
1105
00:50:12,343 --> 00:50:14,550
was slash"s guitar collection,
1106
00:50:14,762 --> 00:50:17,003
and right in the middle
of it was that guitar.
1107
00:50:17,223 --> 00:50:19,384
So I got on the phone with him,
1108
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,057
and he said, "oh, man,
I knew I was going
1109
00:50:22,269 --> 00:50:23,304
"to get the phone call.”
1110
00:50:23,521 --> 00:50:26,012
And, "oh, shit,
don't ask me that.
1111
00:50:26,232 --> 00:50:27,722
"Let me think about it."
1112
00:50:27,942 --> 00:50:29,961
And, you know, of course I
never got a phone call back,
1113
00:50:29,985 --> 00:50:31,691
and then I called him again,
1114
00:50:31,904 --> 00:50:33,314
and it got to the point where
1115
00:50:33,531 --> 00:50:35,772
our conversations got
farther and farther apart,
1116
00:50:35,991 --> 00:50:39,575
and I said, "this is getting
in the way of our friendship."
1117
00:50:39,787 --> 00:50:41,698
I'm not going to ask
you ever again for it.
1118
00:50:41,914 --> 00:50:45,077
If you ever feel like
selling it back to me,
1119
00:50:45,292 --> 00:50:48,910
you know, fine, but at
least I know where it is,
1120
00:50:49,129 --> 00:50:51,211
and I'm happy about
that, you know?
1121
00:50:51,423 --> 00:50:54,756
More years went on, and
then I had my 50th birthday,
1122
00:50:54,969 --> 00:50:57,802
my guitar tech walks
up with the les Paul.
1123
00:50:57,972 --> 00:51:01,430
And he said, "slash
wants you to have this."
1124
00:51:01,642 --> 00:51:06,352
And I was speechless,
you know, for a while,
1125
00:51:06,564 --> 00:51:09,271
and then I picked it up,
and it was like, "wow.
1126
00:51:09,483 --> 00:51:10,752
"It feels just like
I remember it."
1127
00:51:10,776 --> 00:51:14,519
And that was it, you know?
1128
00:51:14,738 --> 00:51:16,274
And I called slash
up and thanked him,
1129
00:51:16,490 --> 00:51:19,448
and it was like I
was still blown away,
1130
00:51:19,660 --> 00:51:21,446
I'm still blown away
by it, you know?
1131
00:51:21,662 --> 00:51:24,825
But it really shows, you know,
1132
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,281
he's just got such a huge heart.
1133
00:51:32,089 --> 00:51:37,049
J I think it's time to
set this world on fire.
1134
00:51:37,428 --> 00:51:42,388
J I think it's time to
push it to the edge.
1135
00:51:53,527 --> 00:51:55,267
I've always been an analog guy.
1136
00:51:55,487 --> 00:51:58,479
The sound of drums and guitars
1137
00:51:58,699 --> 00:52:03,614
just sound better on
tape than digital.
1138
00:52:06,624 --> 00:52:09,491
But I also like having to go
in there and actually perform
1139
00:52:09,710 --> 00:52:11,021
this song from one
end to the other
1140
00:52:11,045 --> 00:52:15,288
without any interruptions,
which a lot of producers
1141
00:52:15,507 --> 00:52:19,091
and a lot of bands
nowadays don't do.
1142
00:52:20,512 --> 00:52:22,594
And with tape you find
yourself, you're listening,
1143
00:52:22,806 --> 00:52:24,576
like you were actually
sitting between the speakers.
1144
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:25,744
I can't see where
the kick drum is,
1145
00:52:25,768 --> 00:52:27,349
I don't know if
he's pushed behind
1146
00:52:27,561 --> 00:52:30,348
like within a frame or two.
1147
00:52:30,564 --> 00:52:32,054
Does it feel good?
1148
00:52:32,274 --> 00:52:33,389
Does it sound good?
1149
00:52:33,609 --> 00:52:36,521
That's all you have to go by.
1150
00:52:42,576 --> 00:52:47,536
With guys that we have
some like-minded energy,
1151
00:52:47,748 --> 00:52:48,407
vou know what I mean?
1152
00:52:48,624 --> 00:52:49,830
It's all sort of got to be,
1153
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,584
everybody's got to be into
that sort of same concept.
1154
00:52:54,463 --> 00:52:55,649
And once I have that foundation,
1155
00:52:55,673 --> 00:52:57,914
that's what I can expand on.
1156
00:52:58,133 --> 00:52:59,213
So I don't like to be like,
1157
00:52:59,343 --> 00:53:00,628
"okay, here.
1158
00:53:00,844 --> 00:53:01,924
"Here's all the parts.
1159
00:53:02,096 --> 00:53:03,461
"Learn this, learn that."
1160
00:53:03,722 --> 00:53:05,804
"Or you can record it
over there at your house.
1161
00:53:05,974 --> 00:53:09,011
"I'll send you, you know,
the tracks or whatever."
1162
00:53:09,228 --> 00:53:12,971
I love what happens, the
sort of combustible energy
1163
00:53:13,190 --> 00:53:14,668
that happens when you
get the right type
1164
00:53:14,692 --> 00:53:15,898
of players together.
1165
00:53:16,068 --> 00:53:18,480
The first step to
putting the record together
1166
00:53:18,696 --> 00:53:19,964
is to go and jam those songs out
1167
00:53:19,988 --> 00:53:22,195
for an extensive amount of time,
1168
00:53:22,408 --> 00:53:23,718
just to get
comfortable with them.
1169
00:53:23,742 --> 00:53:26,324
So before we even started
to officially record,
1170
00:53:26,537 --> 00:53:28,402
which was in the
last couple weeks,
1171
00:53:28,622 --> 00:53:31,489
it was basically October,
1172
00:53:31,709 --> 00:53:36,123
which was about four months ago,
1173
00:53:36,338 --> 00:53:37,919
where we started to just get
1174
00:53:38,090 --> 00:53:40,832
in the studio and
work on those songs,
1175
00:53:41,009 --> 00:53:43,421
so, not a lot of bands
do that anymore,
1176
00:53:43,637 --> 00:53:47,095
is actually to go and flesh
those songs out for a while
1177
00:53:47,307 --> 00:53:50,515
before you actually
press record.
1178
00:53:50,728 --> 00:53:52,434
You know, you hope that when you
1179
00:53:52,646 --> 00:53:54,511
press that red button,
1180
00:53:54,732 --> 00:53:56,768
that you're bouncing
off of each other
1181
00:53:56,984 --> 00:53:59,145
making this amazing
racket together
1182
00:53:59,361 --> 00:54:00,476
that it's being captured,
1183
00:54:00,696 --> 00:54:02,716
and it's not about, "now
we have to kind of sand off
1184
00:54:02,740 --> 00:54:04,605
"all the edgy points on that
1185
00:54:04,825 --> 00:54:08,568
"and make it kind of palatable
for just the general public.”
1186
00:54:08,787 --> 00:54:10,869
It's supposed to be
a specialized thing.
1187
00:54:11,039 --> 00:54:13,576
What we do is specialized for
people who dig what we do.
1188
00:54:14,042 --> 00:54:16,658
I feel like, you know,
now it's the sophomore record
1189
00:54:16,879 --> 00:54:18,599
of the conspirators,
you can definitely feel
1190
00:54:18,714 --> 00:54:21,080
the band vibe, you know,
1191
00:54:21,300 --> 00:54:23,040
everybody's gelling together,
1192
00:54:23,260 --> 00:54:25,922
and that's just, you
know, it's apparent.
1193
00:54:26,096 --> 00:54:28,178
You can definitely
hear it on this record.
1194
00:54:28,557 --> 00:54:30,673
A lot less here and more here.
1195
00:54:30,893 --> 00:54:32,804
Which for me sometimes
is kind of a challenge,
1196
00:54:32,978 --> 00:54:34,497
because sometimes you
tend to get a little,
1197
00:54:34,521 --> 00:54:35,790
you want to get a
little too cerebral,
1198
00:54:35,814 --> 00:54:36,519
and you got to remember
1199
00:54:36,732 --> 00:54:37,892
this is a rock and roll band,
1200
00:54:37,983 --> 00:54:39,836
and I think a lot of what
slash does is from the hip,
1201
00:54:39,860 --> 00:54:42,727
and I, to keep it,
congruent, I need to remember
1202
00:54:42,946 --> 00:54:45,278
that as a lyricist as well.
1203
00:54:45,491 --> 00:54:46,885
You know, when 1
make a studio record,
1204
00:54:46,909 --> 00:54:49,651
it's great, but it's all
sort of a means to an end
1205
00:54:49,870 --> 00:54:51,735
which is to go out and perform,
1206
00:54:51,955 --> 00:54:55,698
so I'm really more of a live
artist than a recording artist.
1207
00:54:55,918 --> 00:54:58,534
Sometimes, as you get a
little bit more successful,
1208
00:54:58,754 --> 00:55:00,354
you start playing at
these bigger places,
1209
00:55:00,422 --> 00:55:03,380
and that's great, but I like
to be able to break it up
1210
00:55:03,592 --> 00:55:04,798
and still be able to play
1211
00:55:04,968 --> 00:55:09,428
in these really sort of
small, loud, sweaty venues,
1212
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:14,509
and for the release of this
new record world on fire,
1213
00:55:14,728 --> 00:55:16,593
I thought it'd be great to do
1214
00:55:16,814 --> 00:55:18,850
like, three of them
in a row, you know,
1215
00:55:19,024 --> 00:55:21,766
the main ones that
I got my start in.
1216
00:55:56,228 --> 00:55:58,765
J last night in paradise
1217
00:55:58,981 --> 00:56:02,940
j I can feel it down in my bones
1218
00:56:03,110 --> 00:56:04,771
j left the good lord behind
1219
00:56:04,987 --> 00:56:06,773
j now I die on the vine
1220
00:56:06,989 --> 00:56:11,904
j waiting for my redemption song
1221
00:56:12,995 --> 00:56:15,953
j I am never safe
1222
00:56:16,957 --> 00:56:20,916
j just a walking bomb
1223
00:56:21,086 --> 00:56:24,999
j in a midnight rage
1224
00:56:25,215 --> 00:56:26,796
j and I'm gone
1225
00:56:26,967 --> 00:56:31,927
j; I'm getting off
this wicked stone
1226
00:56:33,974 --> 00:56:35,305
for some reason I always loved
1227
00:56:35,517 --> 00:56:38,259
being able to go back and play
1228
00:56:38,478 --> 00:56:41,220
at any one of these
clubs, you know?
1229
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:45,399
I like being in a
sort of that intimate,
1230
00:56:45,611 --> 00:56:48,444
you know, toe-to-toe
environment.
1231
00:56:48,655 --> 00:56:50,520
When I was a kid,
I remember making
1232
00:56:50,741 --> 00:56:51,856
the pilgrimage down here.
1233
00:56:52,034 --> 00:56:55,902
It was summer 1988, and
I was reading all about
1234
00:56:56,079 --> 00:56:57,639
everything that was
happening down here,
1235
00:56:57,664 --> 00:56:58,744
and I convinced my cousin
1236
00:56:58,957 --> 00:57:02,950
to try and get me into
some of these places.
1237
00:57:03,170 --> 00:57:07,083
And I remember going
to the troubadour first
1238
00:57:07,299 --> 00:57:08,960
and just peeking in
and being like, "wow,"
1239
00:57:09,176 --> 00:57:10,336
and there was hardly anybody,
1240
00:57:10,469 --> 00:57:12,175
it was like a Tuesday
night or something,
1241
00:57:12,387 --> 00:57:13,987
and there was almost
no one in the venue,
1242
00:57:14,014 --> 00:57:15,033
and we went up to the roxy,
1243
00:57:15,057 --> 00:57:17,218
and I mean it was
really cool for me,
1244
00:57:19,846 --> 00:57:22,730
just because I'd heard
so much for so long.
1245
00:57:22,731 --> 00:57:24,851
And then, of course, the
whisky a go go was happening,
1246
00:57:25,025 --> 00:57:29,894
and then we'd all kind of
saunter up sunset late night,
1247
00:57:30,072 --> 00:57:31,257
about 2 in the morning, head into
1248
00:57:31,281 --> 00:57:32,771
the rainbow parking lot.
1249
00:57:32,991 --> 00:57:36,859
You were at the roxy
or you were at the whisky
1250
00:57:37,037 --> 00:57:38,652
or the rainbow.
1251
00:57:38,872 --> 00:57:40,487
I remember when Van
halen first came out,
1252
00:57:40,707 --> 00:57:43,870
and there was bands
like exciter playing
1253
00:57:44,044 --> 00:57:46,786
at the starwood, you know,
Nikki sixx's old band London.
1254
00:57:46,964 --> 00:57:48,232
There was this whole
scene, but there was also
1255
00:57:48,256 --> 00:57:51,123
sort of burgeoning
punk scene developing
1256
00:57:51,343 --> 00:57:52,423
as well at the same time.
1257
00:57:52,719 --> 00:57:55,927
But I love the whole
dirty underbelly scene
1258
00:57:56,139 --> 00:57:57,595
that was happening
in Los Angeles.
1259
00:57:57,808 --> 00:57:58,848
T had a band called London
1260
00:57:58,976 --> 00:58:00,762
and kind of started to make
1261
00:58:00,978 --> 00:58:02,263
a little bit of a stink around.
1262
00:58:02,479 --> 00:58:03,665
We were kind of
like the only band
1263
00:58:03,689 --> 00:58:05,475
that kind of had
a little bit of a
1264
00:58:05,691 --> 00:58:09,058
New York dolls, hoople vibe
1265
00:58:09,277 --> 00:58:13,771
but played this kind of
little bit poppier stuff.
1266
00:58:13,991 --> 00:58:14,821
It wasn't like, you know,
1267
00:58:14,992 --> 00:58:16,192
some of these television shows
1268
00:58:16,284 --> 00:58:17,569
where you see all these guys
1269
00:58:17,786 --> 00:58:19,430
they're rolling up on
harleys and, you know
1270
00:58:19,454 --> 00:58:21,410
they've got like the
kaiser helmets on
1271
00:58:21,623 --> 00:58:26,538
and shit like that, but this
was just a whole different
1272
00:58:27,379 --> 00:58:28,664
kind of a scene.
1273
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,586
That was when I
really got my first taste
1274
00:58:30,799 --> 00:58:32,068
of what a real rock
star looks like.
1275
00:58:32,092 --> 00:58:35,710
I saw Roger Taylor pull up
in a rolls Royce, from queen.
1276
00:58:35,929 --> 00:58:36,969
He got out with two girls,
1277
00:58:37,139 --> 00:58:39,755
and he was wearing
like a savile row suit,
1278
00:58:39,975 --> 00:58:42,591
you know, holding a
glass of champagne.
1279
00:58:42,811 --> 00:58:45,518
And I was like, "man, that,
looks like he's having
1280
00:58:45,731 --> 00:58:46,971
"a pretty good life."
1281
00:58:56,992 --> 00:59:00,576
J kill the ghost
1282
00:59:00,787 --> 00:59:04,996
j that hides in your soul
1283
00:59:05,208 --> 00:59:13,208
j rock 'n' roll
1284
00:59:17,971 --> 00:59:19,427
he's a very quiet person.
1285
00:59:19,639 --> 00:59:21,175
He's not somebody
that's very outgoing,
1286
00:59:21,391 --> 00:59:22,676
and there's a certain veil
1287
00:59:22,893 --> 00:59:25,305
that he kind of has
on all the time.
1288
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,385
And then when you hear him play,
1289
00:59:27,606 --> 00:59:30,188
it all comes pouring out.
1290
00:59:32,819 --> 00:59:34,400
He doesn't like to talk,
1291
00:59:34,613 --> 00:59:36,382
and he doesn't like to talk
about himself in all things,
1292
00:59:36,406 --> 00:59:37,967
and you realize, well,
he's a great talker,
1293
00:59:37,991 --> 00:59:39,356
and there's a lot of things
1294
00:59:39,576 --> 00:59:41,656
that you could learn about
him talking about himself,
1295
00:59:41,787 --> 00:59:44,278
but it all comes out in
guitar playing instead.
1296
00:59:44,498 --> 00:59:45,498
His voice is guitar.
1297
00:59:45,540 --> 00:59:46,325
He doesn't like to sing it.
1298
00:59:46,541 --> 00:59:47,541
He wants to play it.
1299
00:59:47,667 --> 00:59:49,077
And I think that's cool too.
1300
00:59:51,838 --> 00:59:54,420
That's something that
obviously was inside him
1301
00:59:54,633 --> 00:59:55,902
long before he
picked up a guitar.
1302
00:59:55,926 --> 00:59:57,132
The guitar was just sort of
1303
00:59:57,344 --> 00:59:59,005
an extension of him in a sense.
1304
00:59:59,221 --> 01:00:00,381
He had great parents that had
1305
01:00:00,597 --> 01:00:02,303
good record collections.
1306
01:00:02,557 --> 01:00:06,095
Unfortunately, my
folks had liberace.
1307
01:00:29,501 --> 01:00:31,062
We would play the
troubadour once in a while,
1308
01:00:31,086 --> 01:00:33,702
like really low
on a Monday night,
1309
01:00:33,922 --> 01:00:35,833
the opening band
on a Monday night,
1310
01:00:36,007 --> 01:00:37,292
and started moving up there.
1311
01:00:37,509 --> 01:00:40,421
Putting out the flyers and that,
1312
01:00:40,637 --> 01:00:41,752
so they have to go out.
1313
01:00:41,972 --> 01:00:43,932
What's the best place you
can get your flyers out,
1314
01:00:43,974 --> 01:00:45,305
the rainbow, isn't it?
1315
01:00:45,517 --> 01:00:46,677
You know?
1316
01:00:46,893 --> 01:00:48,371
I mean it's still the
best club in Hollywood,
1317
01:00:48,395 --> 01:00:49,555
as far as I know.
1318
01:02:24,491 --> 01:02:27,574
He's still, if you see
him sitting around somewhere
1319
01:02:27,786 --> 01:02:31,449
or anywhere where he's
not actually on a camera
1320
01:02:31,665 --> 01:02:32,975
or doing something
that he has to do,
1321
01:02:32,999 --> 01:02:34,409
he's got a guitar in his hands,
1322
01:02:34,626 --> 01:02:37,493
and he's constantly
rolling, you know?
1323
01:02:37,712 --> 01:02:39,668
And it's really impressive.
1324
01:02:39,881 --> 01:02:41,542
That's his bliss.
1325
01:02:41,758 --> 01:02:42,758
He's following his bliss.
1326
01:02:42,926 --> 01:02:44,541
When he plays guitar,
it seems to me
1327
01:02:44,803 --> 01:02:46,668
like that's when he's happiest.
1328
01:02:46,888 --> 01:02:49,504
The thing that is
still true to this day
1329
01:02:49,724 --> 01:02:51,885
about slash is you
very rarely see him
1330
01:02:52,060 --> 01:02:54,016
and he doesn't have
a guitar in his hand.
1331
01:02:54,229 --> 01:02:56,436
Any time I see him, I've
even told him that as a joke,
1332
01:02:56,648 --> 01:02:58,376
I'm like, you know, if
he's going to come over,
1333
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,461
I'm like, you know, "are you
going to drive and play guitar
1334
01:03:00,485 --> 01:03:01,485
"at the same time?"
1335
01:03:01,569 --> 01:03:01,933
You know?
1336
01:03:02,153 --> 01:03:02,892
And it's true.
1337
01:03:03,071 --> 01:03:04,732
He loves playing guitar so much.
1338
01:03:04,948 --> 01:03:07,439
And that's why he's continued
throughout the years
1339
01:03:07,659 --> 01:03:09,059
to get better and
better and better,
1340
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:10,280
because that's what he does.
1341
01:03:10,370 --> 01:03:11,576
That is who he is.
1342
01:03:11,788 --> 01:03:13,403
He's a guitar player.
1343
01:03:13,623 --> 01:03:15,363
I mean, I've known
him how long now?
1344
01:03:15,583 --> 01:03:18,040
30 years.
1345
01:03:18,253 --> 01:03:23,168
And nine out of ten times
when we're together,
1346
01:03:23,591 --> 01:03:25,081
he has a guitar in his hand.
1347
01:03:25,302 --> 01:03:29,636
He's always playing, always
working on something.
1348
01:03:29,848 --> 01:03:32,089
So he's probably the, I mean
he's the hardest-working
1349
01:03:32,309 --> 01:03:34,675
guitar player that I know,
1350
01:03:34,894 --> 01:03:37,055
as far as like what
work he does at home
1351
01:03:37,272 --> 01:03:39,809
or backstage before a show
1352
01:03:39,983 --> 01:03:42,690
or in his hotel
room or on the bus,
1353
01:03:42,902 --> 01:03:44,563
he's always playing.
1354
01:03:44,779 --> 01:03:46,485
And I look at slash,
and slash has that,
1355
01:03:46,698 --> 01:03:48,279
like he's got
rhythm, and he's got,
1356
01:03:48,491 --> 01:03:49,691
he'll go off, and you can tell
1357
01:03:49,826 --> 01:03:51,657
it's just coming from
right there, you know?
1358
01:03:51,870 --> 01:03:53,110
And it's all in the hands.
1359
01:03:53,330 --> 01:03:55,070
It's not in like some
pedals on the floor.
1360
01:03:55,290 --> 01:03:56,530
It's like all right there.
1361
01:03:56,750 --> 01:03:58,866
When you see someone
really doing that,
1362
01:03:59,044 --> 01:04:00,750
like, "wow!
1363
01:04:00,962 --> 01:04:03,419
"That's why he is
the guy that he is.”
1364
01:04:03,631 --> 01:04:04,336
You know?
1365
01:04:04,549 --> 01:04:05,880
It's not the hat and the glasses
1366
01:04:06,051 --> 01:04:07,587
and the smoke or whatever.
1367
01:04:07,802 --> 01:04:10,384
It's like all right
there in his hands.
1368
01:04:10,597 --> 01:04:12,383
You couldn't ask for
a better guitar player.
1369
01:04:12,599 --> 01:04:14,702
I mean, he's played on a couple
of our albums, you know?
1370
01:04:14,726 --> 01:04:17,308
And he's been every
time, you know?
1371
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,937
We're going to do another
song off the brand new record.
1372
01:04:21,107 --> 01:04:22,643
This is called meant to fly.
1373
01:04:47,801 --> 01:04:50,543
J mama, don't you cry
1374
01:04:50,762 --> 01:04:53,629
j don't you worry
1375
01:04:53,848 --> 01:04:58,763
j I cannot stay here any longer
1376
01:04:59,896 --> 01:05:01,682
I wouldn't be being honest
1377
01:05:01,898 --> 01:05:04,059
if I didn't say sometimes
when I see him playing,
1378
01:05:04,275 --> 01:05:07,813
I'm like, "for fuck's
sake, we should be playing
1379
01:05:07,987 --> 01:05:11,354
"together, somehow, again.”
1380
01:05:11,574 --> 01:05:13,815
But this is his path right now,
1381
01:05:13,993 --> 01:05:18,908
and I appreciate that, and
support him in every way,
1382
01:05:19,082 --> 01:05:23,746
without resentment or jealousy
or anything like that.
1383
01:05:24,587 --> 01:05:26,168
I check in with him, you know,
1384
01:05:26,381 --> 01:05:28,747
make sure he's doing okay.
1385
01:05:28,967 --> 01:05:31,754
And he's busy.
1386
01:05:31,970 --> 01:05:33,210
I just went and jammed with him
1387
01:05:33,430 --> 01:05:35,546
outside of Seattle
a couple weeks ago.
1388
01:05:35,765 --> 01:05:37,301
They opened for aerosmith.
1389
01:05:37,767 --> 01:05:40,850
You know, I played
drums on one song
1390
01:05:41,020 --> 01:05:44,604
on his last solo record,
1391
01:05:44,816 --> 01:05:48,604
and he asked if I'd
come in and sing a song,
1392
01:05:48,820 --> 01:05:50,423
I said, "oh, man, you don't
want me singing a song.
1393
01:05:50,447 --> 01:05:51,607
"Can I play drums?
1394
01:05:51,823 --> 01:05:53,023
"I'll come in and play drums.”
1395
01:05:53,158 --> 01:05:54,158
He said, "okay.
1396
01:05:54,367 --> 01:05:56,528
"There's an instrumental track.”
1397
01:05:56,744 --> 01:05:58,109
So I come to the studio,
1398
01:05:58,329 --> 01:06:00,866
Eric Valentine's
producing, duff was there,
1399
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,281
slash was there.
1400
01:06:03,501 --> 01:06:06,834
We sat down, listened
to a demo of it,
1401
01:06:07,005 --> 01:06:08,916
said okay, walked
out of the room,
1402
01:06:09,132 --> 01:06:11,498
the instruments were set up,
1403
01:06:11,718 --> 01:06:16,633
ran through it one time, hit
record, did it one more time,
1404
01:06:17,474 --> 01:06:19,715
and that was the take.
1405
01:06:19,934 --> 01:06:24,849
But to watch duff and
slash sit and talk about
1406
01:06:25,773 --> 01:06:28,185
the song together as we were
getting ready to record,
1407
01:06:28,401 --> 01:06:29,436
"no, you do this part.
1408
01:06:29,652 --> 01:06:30,963
"Okay if you do that,
then I'm going to,
1409
01:06:30,987 --> 01:06:32,818
"in this part I'll
lay back and then
1410
01:06:32,989 --> 01:06:34,229
"we got to build that thing up,
1411
01:06:34,324 --> 01:06:35,759
"and make sure that
part goes four times,"
1412
01:06:35,783 --> 01:06:37,783
and I'm sitting there behind
the drum set thinking,
1413
01:06:39,245 --> 01:06:44,160
"am I watching like a guns n'
roses documentary right now?"
1414
01:06:45,043 --> 01:06:47,625
Like I felt like I was watching
1415
01:06:49,714 --> 01:06:55,675
something like history happening
in front of me, you know?
1416
01:06:55,970 --> 01:06:58,461
I mean I look at
musicians and music
1417
01:06:58,681 --> 01:07:05,177
as important as any politician
or any pope, you know?
1418
01:07:05,563 --> 01:07:08,896
The music and the songs that
these people make together
1419
01:07:09,067 --> 01:07:11,729
go on to influence
people or inspire them
1420
01:07:11,945 --> 01:07:13,936
to change the world.
1421
01:07:14,155 --> 01:07:17,568
Generations of people
are changed by two people
1422
01:07:17,784 --> 01:07:20,526
sitting together
and writing a song.
1423
01:07:20,745 --> 01:07:21,985
And as I sat there and watched
1424
01:07:21,996 --> 01:07:23,327
the two of them do that,
1425
01:07:23,540 --> 01:07:27,783
I thought, "I get to witness
something really special."
1426
01:07:27,961 --> 01:07:30,873
This is like history being made.
1427
01:07:31,047 --> 01:07:33,163
Regardless if gene Simmons says
1428
01:07:33,383 --> 01:07:37,797
rock and roll is dead.
1429
01:07:37,971 --> 01:07:40,087
If you listened to him,
we'd all be fucked.
1430
01:07:42,725 --> 01:07:44,590
You know, so it's
like no, rock and roll
1431
01:07:44,811 --> 01:07:47,598
is not dead, gene, let
me explain it to you.
1432
01:07:47,814 --> 01:07:52,308
First of all, rock and roll
was never about making money
1433
01:07:52,527 --> 01:07:56,019
and, you know, fuckin'
building golf courses
1434
01:07:56,239 --> 01:07:58,195
or whatever the
fuck else you do.
1435
01:07:58,408 --> 01:08:01,320
Rock and roll was always about
1436
01:08:01,536 --> 01:08:06,405
that celebration of rebellion,
1437
01:08:06,708 --> 01:08:09,074
the celebration of life,
the celebration of being
1438
01:08:09,294 --> 01:08:13,128
an individual,
freedom, freedom to be
1439
01:08:13,339 --> 01:08:16,206
exactly who you are
whenever you want.
1440
01:08:16,426 --> 01:08:19,213
You don't listen to the man.
1441
01:08:19,429 --> 01:08:20,669
That's rock and roll.
1442
01:08:20,888 --> 01:08:24,631
Rock and roll is
a sense of being.
1443
01:08:24,851 --> 01:08:26,716
It's who you are, you know?
1444
01:08:26,936 --> 01:08:30,099
And you look at guys like slash,
1445
01:08:30,315 --> 01:08:31,430
and you look at lemmy,
1446
01:08:31,649 --> 01:08:33,935
and you go, "those guys,
those are those guys."
1447
01:08:34,110 --> 01:08:37,648
I was driving down sunset
boulevard the other day,
1448
01:08:37,864 --> 01:08:40,321
and I have these
moments where, you know,
1449
01:08:40,533 --> 01:08:41,818
I just am like, "wait a minute.
1450
01:08:41,993 --> 01:08:43,824
"I came here on
a greyhound bus."
1451
01:08:43,995 --> 01:08:46,782
I was driving down
sunset, and, you know,
1452
01:08:46,956 --> 01:08:48,787
I've had an amazing career,
1453
01:08:48,958 --> 01:08:51,574
and I'm in my Ferrari,
and the top was off,
1454
01:08:51,794 --> 01:08:53,659
and the street's
the same, you know?
1455
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:57,589
Everything's the same, just
the years have ticked by,
1456
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,507
and I drove by guitar center,
1457
01:09:00,762 --> 01:09:02,172
and there was a picture of slash
1458
01:09:02,388 --> 01:09:03,548
on the side of guitar center,
1459
01:09:03,681 --> 01:09:06,764
and I thought to
myself, you know,
1460
01:09:06,976 --> 01:09:09,718
"he's going to be doing this
1461
01:09:09,937 --> 01:09:12,474
"like the way b.B.
King is doing this,
1462
01:09:12,690 --> 01:09:17,559
"he's going to be doing this
into his 60s and 70s and 80s.
1463
01:09:17,779 --> 01:09:18,939
It's what he's gonna do.
1464
01:09:47,183 --> 01:09:48,514
Okay, the most
important question,
1465
01:09:48,726 --> 01:09:50,091
when did you get the haircut?
1466
01:09:55,024 --> 01:09:57,060
And action!
1467
01:09:58,528 --> 01:10:01,361
I love you slash.
1468
01:10:02,824 --> 01:10:03,609
Yeah, anything
you want to tell him?
1469
01:10:03,825 --> 01:10:04,610
I love you!
1470
01:10:04,826 --> 01:10:05,565
I miss you!
1471
01:10:05,785 --> 01:10:06,570
When are we going
to go to lunch?
1472
01:10:06,786 --> 01:10:08,322
You work too much!
1473
01:10:08,538 --> 01:10:09,994
Stay home for a little bit.
1474
01:10:11,708 --> 01:10:12,823
You're loved.
1475
01:10:15,503 --> 01:10:20,167
You know, but uh,
1476
01:10:20,383 --> 01:10:23,671
now I don't remember
what the question was.
1477
01:10:25,722 --> 01:10:26,722
What was the question?
1478
01:10:26,931 --> 01:10:28,296
I don't know!
1479
01:10:28,516 --> 01:10:29,676
The story of my fuckin' life.
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