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[whistles]
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Shall we do a mic test, Bill?
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Well, I'll just talk
about that loud, don't I?
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Not much louder.
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It looks like it's got
quite a good level there.
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Bouncin' about.
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Yep.
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Here we go.
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[instrumental music]
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Play simple.
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You're leavin' space and holes
for people to fill in.
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Not to get in the way.
Not to be really noticed.
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'Cause if you did the right thing
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you don't get noticed.
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And that's the way I play.
Very simple.
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I am Charlie Watts.
I am the drummer.
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I'm Brian Jones, the guitarist
and harmonica player.
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Keith Richards, guitar.
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Mick Jagger, s..
I sing... songs.
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Bill Wyman.
I play bass... guitar.
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[The Rolling Stones
singing "Paint It Black"]
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♪ I see a red door ♪
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♪ And I want it painted black ♪
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♪ No colors anymore ♪
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♪ I want them to turn black ♪
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♪ I see the girls walk by ♪
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♪ Dressedin their summer clothes ♪
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[screaming]
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♪ I have to turn my head ♪
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♪ Until my darkness goes ♪
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♪ I see a line of cars ♪
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♪ And they're allpainted black ♪
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♪ With flowers and my love ♪
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♪ Both never to come back ♪
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♪ I see peopleturn their heads ♪
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♪ And quickly look away ♪
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♪ Like a newborn baby ♪
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♪ It just happens every day ♪
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♪ I look inside myself ♪
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♪ And see my heart is black ♪
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♪ I see my red door ♪
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♪ I must have itpainted black ♪
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♪ Maybe then I'll fade away ♪
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♪ And not have to facethe facts ♪
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♪ It's not easy facin' up ♪
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♪ When your whole worldis black ♪
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♪ No more will my green sea ♪
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♪ Go turn a deeper blue ♪
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♪ I could not foreseethis thing ♪
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♪ Happening to you ♪
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You've always been
the silent Stone.
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That's been the... the image.
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The great Stone Face, I know.
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♪ My love will laugh with me ♪
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♪ Before the mornin' comes ♪
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[instrumental music]
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People always ask me
why I collected things
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and why I built an archive
like I did and still do.
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This is my little capsule
of my life in here.
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I suppose if you looked
at my bookshelves
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you would sort of
understand me better.
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I always thought it was
important to keep a record
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of what was going on.
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I've... I've always
kept records
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or information of things
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since I was a... a little boy
in the war.
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[jazz music]
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[alarm blaring]
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I remember standing out
in the streets
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with all the local families
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and watching the formations
of German bombers going over.
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It was just droning.
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Just this sound.
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There was
a German fighter bomber
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roaring up the street
towards us firing his guns.
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[gunfire]
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As it passed, I ran down the street
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to where my grandmother
was waiting for me.
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She grabbed me and we ran to go down
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the back of the stairs
to the air raid shelter.
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[explosion]
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[droning]
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And then the silence.
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You go back to the school,
and there were two little girls
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who was in our class,
they weren't there anymore.
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They got killed.
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We go to that bomb site
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where there used to be
about 16 houses
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and find toys and children's books
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and then we'd get chased off
by the air raid men.
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[instrumental music]
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My grandmother
was like my mother.
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I mean,
she taught me everything.
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She was wonderful.
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She started me
collectin' things.
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All kinds of treasured
little things.
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I was collectin' stuff
and I made a scrapbook.
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And then I had to make
another scrapbook
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and another scrapbook.
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Then I have to get a trunk.
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And it just kept goin'
on and on.
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Whenever I came into contact
with anything
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that I could claim was mine,
I kept it.
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Throw it in the room here.
Throw it in the room.
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I always wanted to be
a musician.
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I always wanted to be in a band.
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And I know it was so impossible
and so unlikely
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um, that I would be
that I just dismissed it
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completely from my mind.
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And, um, suddenly last year..
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...I... I re... remembered,
you know, after all that time.
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I suddenly remembered
that I'd always wanted to be
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and now I was, you know.
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It didn't mean a thing
to me anymore.
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It was a big,
it was such a big ambition.
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It was... it was unobtainable
when I was little.
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[instrumental music]
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[indistinct chatter]
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I was coming from one
of the worst streets in Penge.
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It was like gang warfare
in those days.
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Most of the boys in Blenheim Road
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ended up in borstals or prisons
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and a lot of them went bad.
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I was really quite ahead
of everybody
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because of what my gran
was teaching me.
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She did whatever she could
to bring me up.
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My mom and my dad
were not that kind of people.
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There was a emptiness,
a blankness in 'em.
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All that working-class stuff
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that children should be seen
and not heard.
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You felt pushed aside
all the time.
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I never really felt
like I had a home, you know.
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I really didn't.
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[school bell rings]
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I went to a grammar school,
which was something special
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you know, in those days,
um, coming from a slum street.
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I was accused
of trying to be snobby
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by my mates in the street
and also by my dad.
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He always tried to insist
that I was working class
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and I should never try to change
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because that's what I was.
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My dad pulled me out of school
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and the headmaster
wrote a letter to him.
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I've got it.
I've got the letter.
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And not only did he
pull me out of school
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he did the worst thing possible.
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Put me to work
in a bettin' shop.
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He said, "You're gonna
contribute to payin' for the house."
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Because he was a bricklayer, and
if he had bad weather in the winter
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he couldn't work.
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I returned to live with my
grandmother a number of times
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because I just couldn't get on
with my dad at all.
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[indistinct chatter]
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I realized I was on me own.
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Once my grandmother died
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being loved kind of vanished,
really.
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She died when I was away
and I just never..
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...paid her back, really
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for all the love and affection
she gave me
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and I feel guilty about it.
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When I was born, she picked me
up in... in her arms
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and said, "This boy's
gonna be world-famous."
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And everybody laughed
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including my mom, my dad,
my relatives.
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They all thought
it was like a big joke.
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[crowd cheering]
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Yeah.
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[The Rolling Stones
singing "Not Fade Away"]
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♪ I wanna tell youhow it's gonna be ♪
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♪ You're gonna giveyour love to me ♪
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Give it up
for the Rolling Stones.
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[singing "Around And Around"]
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♪ It sounds so sweet ♪
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The audience just stood
and sort of stared at us
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because we didn't have
no uniforms
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we didn't have any matching guitars
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and we played this blues and R&B
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which was alien to them.
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And then this crowd goes
fucking apeshit.
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♪ Going round and round ♪
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♪ Yeah reelin' and a rockin' ♪
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♪ What a crazy sound ♪
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♪ And they never stopped rockin' ♪
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♪ Till the moon went down ♪
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[cheering]
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We were just so different
from any other band.
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We played different music
to them.
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We played in a different way.
We played it better than them.
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Keith had all the licks off.
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And then you got Mick up front
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who's just all over
the bloody stage
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with the maracas and
the tambourine and all that.
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The greatest front man
there's ever been.
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[cheering]
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It was a special band
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and we could blow anyone off the stage
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no matter who it was.
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[cheering]
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[instrumental music]
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Bill had a very individual style
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that wasn't particularly
hip or cool
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but he was his own person.
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He had a tremendous presence
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but he didn't impose
himself on you.
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Stone Face,
I think people called him
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or referred to him
as Stone Face.
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He was rake thin
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and when he smiled,
which wasn't that frequently
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his whole face lit up
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in a sort of great crease
of a smile.
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And he always had an air
of world-weariness.
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I remember seeing Bill
when we first rehearsed
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up the road in a pub.
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You know, he'd had a different
sort of upbringing.
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He's locked into an era
that was before us, really.
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So when we got on the road
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I think it was like liberation
for him.
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I went into the military in '55.
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Thank God I got the strength
when I was in the military
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to be able to stand up
for myself
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and fight for my beliefs.
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Before that, I couldn't.
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[droning]
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[instrumental music]
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[indistinct chatter]
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I was posted to Germany.
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When I got there, I met this great guy
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who was a genius footballer.
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His name was Gordon Lee Wyman.
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He was bit of a rebel.
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All his clothes were scruffy.
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And I kind of really
liked him for that
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because we all had to dress
tidy and neat
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otherwise we got a bollocking.
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But he seemed to
get away with it.
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[airplane droning]
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He used to be
in the refuelin' trucks
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and he'd open the top
when it was being refueled.
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He'd be smokin' a cigarette
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and he'd just throw
the cigarette in the fuel.
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[chuckles]
He did insane things.
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When he finished his fag,
he just dropped it in there.
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[intense music]
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He was like the first person
I kind of idolized
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if you like.
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He did things his way,
and I related to all that.
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At the beginning of the Stones,
I decided to change my name
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because I'd never liked my name.
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I officially changed my name
in '64 to Bill Wyman.
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I felt such a relief
havin' a different name
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and it just took a cloud
off my head.
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My dad hated me for it.
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He thought I was trying
to get away from my roots
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which I kind of was in a way.
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I mean, it just changed my life.
259
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I bought a fleck jacket
just to be different, really.
260
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I'd have a Tony Curtis haircut
261
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hanging down the center there,
you know, a curly bit.
262
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People used to stare at me
in the street
263
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and I was proud of that.
264
00:16:17,942 --> 00:16:19,979
I was being an odd one out.
265
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[radio static]
266
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[indistinct chatter on radio]
267
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At the barracks, the guys in
our room all clubbed together.
268
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We bought a radio in town,
in Oldenburg, for our room
269
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and at last we were able to
listen to whatever we wanted
270
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mostly through
American Forces Radio, AFN.
271
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We'd wake up at 5:30
in the morning
272
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and listen
to "Stickbuddy Jamboree"
273
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this fantastic country program.
274
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A very big, big, happy howdy to
you out there, friends and neighbors.
275
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This is your old country buddy
Wagon Wheel Willie
276
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comin' at you
on "Stickbuddy Jamboree."
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Sit back and relax and enjoy 25 minutes
278
00:17:01,261 --> 00:17:04,920
of good country
and western recorded music.
279
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[country music on radio]
280
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Then, of course, shortly after that
281
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we heard the beginnings
of rock and roll.
282
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[singing "Mystery Train"]
283
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♪ Train I ride ♪
284
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I could go
to the American PSI shops
285
00:17:24,181 --> 00:17:27,632
and buy the first
little 45 records.
286
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♪ Train I ride ♪
287
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It was just like
brand-new music.
288
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It just blew me away.
289
00:17:35,226 --> 00:17:36,917
And I had to be involved in it.
290
00:17:36,952 --> 00:17:38,678
I had to.
291
00:17:38,712 --> 00:17:41,715
I went straight down
into the Oldenburg town
292
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and I bought
my first acoustic guitar.
293
00:17:47,169 --> 00:17:49,792
When I came out of the military on leave
294
00:17:49,827 --> 00:17:52,105
I went to the cinema,
the, uh, Regal Cinema
295
00:17:52,140 --> 00:17:55,074
in Beckenham
with a couple of friends
296
00:17:55,108 --> 00:17:57,283
and we saw this film
called "Rock, Rock, Rock!"
297
00:17:59,871 --> 00:18:02,115
About halfway through,
I saw this trio
298
00:18:02,150 --> 00:18:04,462
called Johnny Burnette
Trio who did this..
299
00:18:04,497 --> 00:18:06,085
♪ Lonesome train ♪
300
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...on a lonesome track.
301
00:18:07,569 --> 00:18:09,329
♪ Tum tum lonesome train ♪
302
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A bit like early Elvis.
303
00:18:10,779 --> 00:18:12,021
♪ I'm coming back ♪
304
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With all this, you know
305
00:18:13,092 --> 00:18:14,093
his mouth a bit twisted
306
00:18:14,127 --> 00:18:15,335
like Elvis and all that.
307
00:18:15,370 --> 00:18:17,889
I thought,
"Oh, they're great," you know.
308
00:18:17,924 --> 00:18:20,306
About ten minutes further into the film
309
00:18:20,340 --> 00:18:23,688
there's this black guy
with a little mustache
310
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in a white suit
311
00:18:25,242 --> 00:18:28,969
with a little
Gibson Les Paul guitar.
312
00:18:29,004 --> 00:18:33,457
♪ Do do do la da dado do da la da da da ♪
313
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Chuck Berry.
314
00:18:34,975 --> 00:18:36,908
[singing "You Can't Catch Me"]
315
00:18:38,669 --> 00:18:40,360
And that just blew my mind.
316
00:18:40,395 --> 00:18:42,051
My hair went on the back
of my neck.
317
00:18:42,086 --> 00:18:45,607
I thought, "Fuckin' hell."
It just blew me away.
318
00:18:45,641 --> 00:18:48,161
This guy was doin'
the duck walk across the stage
319
00:18:48,196 --> 00:18:50,681
and shakin' his legs
and shudderin'.
320
00:18:50,715 --> 00:18:52,096
And the audience are laughing.
321
00:18:52,131 --> 00:18:53,994
They thought it was
a comedy show or something.
322
00:18:54,029 --> 00:18:55,168
And I'm sitting there thinking
323
00:18:55,203 --> 00:18:56,859
"This is the most incredible thing
324
00:18:56,894 --> 00:18:58,137
that's ever happened to me."
325
00:18:58,171 --> 00:18:59,724
It was then that I thought
326
00:18:59,759 --> 00:19:01,554
"Well, I've got
to form a band."
327
00:19:01,588 --> 00:19:03,935
♪ Get too closeyou know I'm gone ♪
328
00:19:03,970 --> 00:19:07,007
♪ Like a cool breeze ♪
329
00:19:07,042 --> 00:19:08,699
I'm out of the military
330
00:19:08,733 --> 00:19:11,184
and that's when the Cliftons
came into existence.
331
00:19:11,219 --> 00:19:12,910
♪ Wee wee hours ♪
332
00:19:12,944 --> 00:19:15,568
We used to sit in my kitchen
with a little tape recorder
333
00:19:15,602 --> 00:19:17,328
and just learn
all these basic songs.
334
00:19:17,363 --> 00:19:20,814
♪ Here come a flat-tophe was moving up with me ♪
335
00:19:20,849 --> 00:19:23,576
We used to play
all the hits of the day.
336
00:19:23,610 --> 00:19:25,992
Um, for that,
we used to get a pound each
337
00:19:26,026 --> 00:19:27,994
and a sandwich and a beer.
338
00:19:35,035 --> 00:19:37,106
How long did it take you
to learn to play?
339
00:19:37,141 --> 00:19:38,625
It was about...
340
00:19:38,660 --> 00:19:39,902
[laughter]
341
00:19:39,937 --> 00:19:41,180
Now give him a chance, please.
342
00:19:41,214 --> 00:19:42,595
You can ask these questions,
everybody sends
343
00:19:42,629 --> 00:19:44,183
somebody else up.
No one wants to say anything.
344
00:19:44,217 --> 00:19:47,393
I just messed about with a guitar at home.
345
00:19:47,427 --> 00:19:50,706
About three years ago.
Three and a half years ago.
346
00:19:50,741 --> 00:19:53,916
And eventually formed a group
347
00:19:53,951 --> 00:19:57,057
and I had to play bass 'cause
nobody else did, did they?
348
00:19:57,092 --> 00:19:58,266
- And then I...
- Why do you play bass?
349
00:19:58,300 --> 00:19:59,474
Nobody else did.
350
00:19:59,508 --> 00:20:00,889
Yeah, because
there's more guitarists
351
00:20:00,923 --> 00:20:02,856
and less bass players.
352
00:20:02,891 --> 00:20:06,205
I went to my sister's house
for the weekend
353
00:20:06,239 --> 00:20:08,310
and we went to a dance.
354
00:20:08,345 --> 00:20:09,794
And I heard the bass.
355
00:20:09,829 --> 00:20:11,210
[blues music]
356
00:20:12,728 --> 00:20:15,110
I heard the real bass guitar
for the first time.
357
00:20:17,595 --> 00:20:21,461
The low sound just filled you
up right down there, you know
358
00:20:21,496 --> 00:20:23,705
when everybody else
was playing up high.
359
00:20:23,739 --> 00:20:26,017
And I thought,
"God, that's what's missing
360
00:20:26,052 --> 00:20:27,433
in the Cliftons."
361
00:20:30,436 --> 00:20:32,472
And I asked them all. I said,
"Steve, you wanna play bass?"
362
00:20:32,507 --> 00:20:35,889
"No." "Cliff, do you
wanna play bass?" "No."
363
00:20:35,924 --> 00:20:38,167
Fucking hell, I suppose
I better do it then.
364
00:20:44,208 --> 00:20:45,451
He didn't have a bass guitar
365
00:20:45,485 --> 00:20:47,107
because he couldn't afford
to buy one.
366
00:20:47,142 --> 00:20:50,145
What he did was detune
two or three of the top strings
367
00:20:50,179 --> 00:20:52,251
of an ordinary six-string
and he made..
368
00:20:52,285 --> 00:20:54,149
What he made of it
was brilliant, you know.
369
00:20:54,183 --> 00:20:55,840
And I think we may have
all clubbed together
370
00:20:55,875 --> 00:20:58,118
to buy the bass guitar.
371
00:20:58,153 --> 00:21:00,776
We bought it and it was
the most ugly, horrible thing.
372
00:21:00,811 --> 00:21:04,539
I turned this bass over,
got some chalk
373
00:21:04,573 --> 00:21:06,437
and redrew the body.
374
00:21:06,472 --> 00:21:08,301
And I went down the road
to my friend
375
00:21:08,336 --> 00:21:10,096
who had a fret work machine.
376
00:21:10,130 --> 00:21:11,442
I said, "I want you
to cut all this out."
377
00:21:11,477 --> 00:21:13,064
He went, "Are you serious?"
378
00:21:13,099 --> 00:21:14,721
I said "Yes, cut it out."
379
00:21:14,756 --> 00:21:16,344
[whirring]
380
00:21:16,378 --> 00:21:18,622
Took it home,
put all new electrics in it.
381
00:21:18,656 --> 00:21:20,520
[whirring]
382
00:21:20,555 --> 00:21:23,558
I put another pickup in,
a Baldwin pickup.
383
00:21:23,592 --> 00:21:27,078
Stripped it all down,
took all the frets out.
384
00:21:27,113 --> 00:21:30,530
Then I had to buy new strings,
these framer strings
385
00:21:30,565 --> 00:21:32,705
which were really
springy and soft.
386
00:21:34,120 --> 00:21:36,087
And I bought this amplifier.
387
00:21:36,122 --> 00:21:37,641
The fucking thing,
every time I touched it
388
00:21:37,675 --> 00:21:39,090
I'd get electrocuted
389
00:21:39,125 --> 00:21:40,609
because it didn't have
an earth or anything.
390
00:21:40,644 --> 00:21:41,852
I'd just go, "Ah!"
391
00:21:41,886 --> 00:21:44,441
I bought
an 18-inch Goodman speaker
392
00:21:44,475 --> 00:21:46,270
the biggest speaker there was.
393
00:21:46,305 --> 00:21:49,894
And when I played this bass,
Jesus, the sound.
394
00:21:49,929 --> 00:21:52,656
[imitates bass guitar]
395
00:21:52,690 --> 00:21:54,692
I mean, it was amazing.
396
00:21:54,727 --> 00:21:58,040
Without knowing it,
I invented the fretless bass.
397
00:22:01,285 --> 00:22:04,288
[Booker T & the MG's
singing "Green Onions"]
398
00:22:11,295 --> 00:22:14,885
I heard "Green Onions"
by Booker T & the MG's.
399
00:22:14,919 --> 00:22:16,783
♪ Boom doom pa doom doom ♪
400
00:22:16,818 --> 00:22:19,372
♪ Doom doom pa doompa doom doom ♪
401
00:22:19,407 --> 00:22:21,270
And I thought,
"That bass is great."
402
00:22:21,305 --> 00:22:22,720
And I started to focus
403
00:22:22,755 --> 00:22:26,552
on trying to play bass
like Duck Dunn.
404
00:22:26,586 --> 00:22:28,899
That's who I learned
my basics from.
405
00:22:28,933 --> 00:22:31,315
The way to play, to leave space
406
00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:33,317
don't be busy, don't fill it up.
407
00:22:33,352 --> 00:22:34,663
You're not a fucking
lead guitarist
408
00:22:34,698 --> 00:22:36,147
you're a bass player.
409
00:22:36,182 --> 00:22:38,184
Focus on what the drummer's doin'
410
00:22:38,218 --> 00:22:41,221
and play exactly with the drums
411
00:22:41,256 --> 00:22:43,810
so that you've got
a strong foundation there
412
00:22:43,845 --> 00:22:47,089
that's solid, that everybody
else can build upon.
413
00:22:47,124 --> 00:22:51,818
♪ Can you handle it?
Handle it ♪
414
00:22:51,853 --> 00:22:54,131
♪ Can you handle it ♪
415
00:22:54,165 --> 00:22:56,098
[instrumental music]
416
00:22:58,273 --> 00:23:01,414
I'd done gigs
with some of the lesser-known
417
00:23:01,449 --> 00:23:03,105
musicians of the time.
418
00:23:03,140 --> 00:23:04,590
I did have a bit of
experience like that
419
00:23:04,624 --> 00:23:07,593
but it was all rock and roll.
420
00:23:07,627 --> 00:23:09,526
The stuff that we were
all listening to
421
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,425
they weren't many bass players
on any of those records.
422
00:23:12,460 --> 00:23:14,323
And I remember seeing
Bill playing and thinking
423
00:23:14,358 --> 00:23:17,430
"What, a bass player?" And
he looked like a Teddy Boy.
424
00:23:17,465 --> 00:23:19,363
I thought,
"Where's he come from?"
425
00:23:19,398 --> 00:23:21,400
You know, his bass playing
was fantastic.
426
00:23:21,434 --> 00:23:23,436
Really unique.
427
00:23:23,471 --> 00:23:26,439
Forming the Cliftons
was a breath of fresh air.
428
00:23:26,474 --> 00:23:29,684
I'd fallen in love
with playing music.
429
00:23:29,718 --> 00:23:31,893
We were doing all these gigs
and working hard
430
00:23:31,927 --> 00:23:35,517
but the trouble was
those shite promoters.
431
00:23:35,552 --> 00:23:38,244
They owed us so much money,
they just wouldn't pay us.
432
00:23:38,278 --> 00:23:41,627
And so the bottom started
to fall out of the band.
433
00:23:41,661 --> 00:23:44,595
Tony Chapman answered an ad
434
00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:46,873
for a drummer with an R&B band.
435
00:23:49,911 --> 00:23:53,190
That night we went back
to Mick's parents' house
436
00:23:53,224 --> 00:23:55,295
and they played Jimmy Reid
and various things
437
00:23:55,330 --> 00:23:56,538
that I'd never heard.
438
00:23:56,573 --> 00:23:58,022
I think they quite liked
the way I played
439
00:23:58,057 --> 00:23:59,265
because I could play
the shuffle beat
440
00:23:59,299 --> 00:24:00,818
which most people couldn't.
441
00:24:00,853 --> 00:24:03,442
And then that's how I got to
play with the Stones, really.
442
00:24:03,476 --> 00:24:05,996
Tony came to me and said,
"Bass player's left.
443
00:24:06,030 --> 00:24:08,377
Do you wanna come up
to rehearsal on Friday?"
444
00:24:11,864 --> 00:24:15,315
So I went up with him
and I had my big bass cabinet
445
00:24:15,350 --> 00:24:17,801
in the boot of his car
stickin' out.
446
00:24:17,835 --> 00:24:19,941
I took my homemade bass
447
00:24:19,975 --> 00:24:22,426
and I went to the
Weatherby Arms in Chelsea.
448
00:24:26,016 --> 00:24:28,674
I went in, and there
they were, Ian Stewart.
449
00:24:28,708 --> 00:24:30,745
He was nice
when I went in there.
450
00:24:30,779 --> 00:24:31,918
[indistinct chatter]
451
00:24:31,953 --> 00:24:34,749
Mick was fairly sociable.
452
00:24:34,783 --> 00:24:36,751
[instrumental music]
453
00:24:36,785 --> 00:24:38,718
And Brian and Keith
just didn't speak to me.
454
00:24:38,753 --> 00:24:41,169
They were up at the bar,
and they were really beatnik-y.
455
00:24:43,343 --> 00:24:44,828
I bought them all a round of drinks
456
00:24:44,862 --> 00:24:46,277
and then they got a bit more friendly
457
00:24:46,312 --> 00:24:48,279
and... and passed
the cigarettes round.
458
00:24:48,314 --> 00:24:50,247
So, then they were sociable,
you know.
459
00:24:50,281 --> 00:24:52,421
They didn't have any money
or anything.
460
00:24:52,456 --> 00:24:54,113
They asked me what music I liked
461
00:24:54,147 --> 00:24:56,702
and what music I played.
462
00:24:56,736 --> 00:25:00,429
So I said, "Well, Chuck
Berry," and they went, "Great."
463
00:25:00,464 --> 00:25:02,466
"Jerry Lee Lewis." "No!"
464
00:25:02,501 --> 00:25:04,744
"Eddie Cochrane." "No!"
465
00:25:04,779 --> 00:25:07,540
All the rock and rollers,
they didn't like any of them.
466
00:25:07,575 --> 00:25:10,474
They said, "We're a blues band,
we're not a rock and roll band.
467
00:25:10,509 --> 00:25:11,682
We don't play that shit."
468
00:25:11,717 --> 00:25:13,650
[The Rolling Stones singing "Mona"]
469
00:25:15,928 --> 00:25:17,930
They'd already spoken
to Charlie Watts
470
00:25:17,964 --> 00:25:21,830
so they fired Tony,
and Charlie said he'd join.
471
00:25:21,865 --> 00:25:24,557
I kind of slotted in alright.
472
00:25:24,592 --> 00:25:26,145
♪ I said yeah ♪
473
00:25:26,179 --> 00:25:29,217
♪ Yeah yeah yeah Mona ♪
474
00:25:29,251 --> 00:25:33,566
♪ Oh Mona ♪
475
00:25:33,601 --> 00:25:35,050
♪ I tell ya Monawhat I wanna do ♪
476
00:25:35,085 --> 00:25:36,535
I was a bit of a rock and roller
477
00:25:36,569 --> 00:25:38,398
more than anything else
478
00:25:38,433 --> 00:25:42,230
and found that they were
playing pure blues.
479
00:25:42,264 --> 00:25:44,094
♪ Man ♪
480
00:25:44,128 --> 00:25:46,890
I mean, really slow, slow blues.
481
00:25:46,924 --> 00:25:50,031
♪ You know I didn't enjoy
things that kings and queens ♪
482
00:25:50,065 --> 00:25:51,929
You couldn't buy a bloody blues record
483
00:25:51,964 --> 00:25:53,517
to save your life in those days.
484
00:25:53,552 --> 00:25:56,658
It was unheard of in England.
485
00:25:56,693 --> 00:25:58,660
I remember saying to them
at that rehearsal
486
00:25:58,695 --> 00:26:01,767
I said, "We can't play 12-bar
blues all fucking night."
487
00:26:01,801 --> 00:26:03,596
Which I was totally wrong about
488
00:26:03,631 --> 00:26:06,254
because we ended up
doing exactly that.
489
00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:11,811
Within two months, we were brilliant
490
00:26:11,846 --> 00:26:13,641
and sounded fantastic.
491
00:26:13,675 --> 00:26:18,473
And in 1963,
we played about 340 shows.
492
00:26:18,507 --> 00:26:21,441
We traveled everywhere
in Stu's van.
493
00:26:21,476 --> 00:26:23,478
He was a fantastic blues piano player
494
00:26:23,512 --> 00:26:27,482
and he looked after us
on the road for 22 years.
495
00:26:27,516 --> 00:26:29,553
He was like
the sixth Stone, really.
496
00:26:31,417 --> 00:26:33,281
Stu would turn around and say
497
00:26:33,315 --> 00:26:36,525
"Okay, you three-chord wonders, you're on."
498
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,873
♪ Let's go fishin'in the crawdad hole ♪
499
00:26:40,771 --> 00:26:42,842
♪ One two three fourfive and nine ♪
500
00:26:44,810 --> 00:26:46,225
I couldn't survive working
501
00:26:46,259 --> 00:26:48,676
because we started to get gigs
out of London.
502
00:26:48,710 --> 00:26:51,195
♪ I said hey crawdaddy ♪
503
00:26:52,990 --> 00:26:55,303
♪ I said hey crawdaddy ♪
504
00:26:56,684 --> 00:26:59,376
♪ I said hey crawdaddy ♪
505
00:27:01,171 --> 00:27:03,449
♪ Hey crawdaddy ♪
506
00:27:05,037 --> 00:27:07,246
I told my parents and friends
507
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,559
that I was gonna give up work
and go professional.
508
00:27:10,594 --> 00:27:12,389
Every single person I knew said
509
00:27:12,423 --> 00:27:15,219
"Don't do it.
Don't take the risk."
510
00:27:15,254 --> 00:27:18,533
And I thought,
"Fuck it, I'm gonna do it."
511
00:27:23,365 --> 00:27:25,195
Top British
rhythm and blues group
512
00:27:25,229 --> 00:27:28,474
and the best new group,
the Rolling Stones.
513
00:27:28,508 --> 00:27:29,924
[audience cheering]
514
00:27:29,958 --> 00:27:31,063
I didn't think of it
515
00:27:31,097 --> 00:27:33,548
as progressin' anywhere
really big.
516
00:27:33,582 --> 00:27:36,447
It was the most excitin' thing
in my life.
517
00:27:36,482 --> 00:27:39,968
The sound we had, no one compared
518
00:27:40,003 --> 00:27:41,936
with that sound in those days,
no one.
519
00:27:46,561 --> 00:27:48,597
I started to collect
the little bits and pieces
520
00:27:48,632 --> 00:27:49,978
as we traveled.
521
00:27:50,013 --> 00:27:53,154
If I was very lucky,
I grabbed a little poster
522
00:27:53,188 --> 00:27:55,984
and someone would give me
a photo they had taken.
523
00:27:57,745 --> 00:28:02,094
And it just slowly escalated
into this mountain.
524
00:28:06,374 --> 00:28:08,548
You know, it is all a bit of a haze to me.
525
00:28:08,583 --> 00:28:11,482
I mean, if I wanna know what
I did for certain in those years
526
00:28:11,517 --> 00:28:13,761
I have to ask Bill Wyman,
you know.
527
00:28:13,795 --> 00:28:16,764
- Who keeps the archives.
- Yeah.
528
00:28:16,798 --> 00:28:21,561
Bill was the first guy
to have a computer.
529
00:28:21,596 --> 00:28:24,426
He'd have his videos
and they'd be all stacked up.
530
00:28:24,461 --> 00:28:26,808
I bet he's probably got them
even now.
531
00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:31,330
He had movie cameras
before everybody.
532
00:28:34,057 --> 00:28:36,680
I took reels of film.
533
00:28:36,715 --> 00:28:39,338
Twenty years of home movies
on the road.
534
00:28:54,871 --> 00:28:59,185
The biggest ambition we had
was to play in a club
535
00:28:59,220 --> 00:29:01,843
and have people like
what we were playin'.
536
00:29:01,878 --> 00:29:04,950
We never dreamed
about making a record.
537
00:29:04,984 --> 00:29:07,262
It never crossed our minds
that we would ever
538
00:29:07,297 --> 00:29:09,506
be on TV or radio.
539
00:29:09,540 --> 00:29:13,096
Pie in the sky to think
we might go abroad sometime
540
00:29:13,130 --> 00:29:16,444
because we were playin'
uncommercial music.
541
00:29:17,721 --> 00:29:19,378
We were playin' pure blues
542
00:29:19,412 --> 00:29:22,277
and the only place we could
play it was in jazz clubs.
543
00:29:22,312 --> 00:29:25,418
Suddenly, we got a followin'
and it blossomed from there.
544
00:29:27,144 --> 00:29:30,182
Glyn Johns, who was
in that band, The Presidents
545
00:29:30,216 --> 00:29:33,910
said to us,
"I work at IBC Record Studios.
546
00:29:33,944 --> 00:29:36,705
I can get you three hours
recording time."
547
00:29:36,740 --> 00:29:39,743
We went, "What?
Make a record?"
548
00:29:41,883 --> 00:29:43,264
I'd seen the Rolling Stones
549
00:29:43,298 --> 00:29:44,817
and I thought they were really good
550
00:29:44,852 --> 00:29:45,887
and I thought, "There's definitely
551
00:29:45,922 --> 00:29:47,302
a commercial opportunity here."
552
00:29:47,337 --> 00:29:49,201
So I approached
the studio owners and said
553
00:29:49,235 --> 00:29:51,755
"Can I bring these people in
and see what we can do?"
554
00:29:51,790 --> 00:29:53,377
And they said, "Yes,
on the condition that you have
555
00:29:53,412 --> 00:29:54,931
"absolutely nothing to do
with getting the deal.
556
00:29:54,965 --> 00:29:56,622
We'll do the business."
557
00:29:56,656 --> 00:29:59,590
[instrumental music]
558
00:30:05,631 --> 00:30:07,081
I took the Stones in
559
00:30:07,115 --> 00:30:09,221
and that was their first
recording session.
560
00:30:09,255 --> 00:30:12,465
We cut four things, I think.
Bill and I argue about this.
561
00:30:12,500 --> 00:30:14,985
I thought it was only three,
but he says it was five.
562
00:30:15,020 --> 00:30:16,469
He's probably right
563
00:30:16,504 --> 00:30:18,437
because he's got it
all written down somewhere.
564
00:30:20,542 --> 00:30:22,475
We went and we cut five tracks.
565
00:30:22,510 --> 00:30:25,064
The guy who owned the place,
Harold Clewson
566
00:30:25,099 --> 00:30:27,929
took them around
to Decca and EMI and Pi
567
00:30:27,964 --> 00:30:29,448
and nobody liked them.
568
00:30:29,482 --> 00:30:32,623
And we thought that was the
end of our recording careers.
569
00:30:34,833 --> 00:30:37,318
It started to happen
when Andrew Oldham signed us.
570
00:30:37,352 --> 00:30:39,009
I'm proud of most things I did.
571
00:30:39,044 --> 00:30:40,666
Just, whether the proudness
remains
572
00:30:40,700 --> 00:30:42,392
is whether they happen
or they don't happen.
573
00:30:42,426 --> 00:30:44,601
Um, the biggest thing
naturally is the Rolling Stones.
574
00:30:44,635 --> 00:30:47,500
Andrew said he saw the sex
emanatin' from us
575
00:30:47,535 --> 00:30:48,916
and, you know,
and all this sort of bullshit
576
00:30:48,950 --> 00:30:51,504
the way Andrew talks,
which was fantastic
577
00:30:51,539 --> 00:30:53,265
'cause he was a genius.
578
00:30:55,370 --> 00:30:57,476
Bill, I didn't pay much attention to
579
00:30:57,510 --> 00:30:59,167
and he knows that.
580
00:30:59,202 --> 00:31:02,239
Because of being deeply superficial
581
00:31:02,274 --> 00:31:05,484
I judged books by their cover
582
00:31:05,518 --> 00:31:08,280
and he seemed to be
much more of a Duane Eddy
583
00:31:08,314 --> 00:31:10,903
Johnny and the Hurricanes
type of guy to me
584
00:31:10,938 --> 00:31:13,078
than a, than a Bo Diddley guy.
585
00:31:13,112 --> 00:31:16,460
Bill might have had moments
where he thought
586
00:31:16,495 --> 00:31:19,843
not that his life was over,
but his life was set.
587
00:31:19,878 --> 00:31:21,880
And then along came
the Rolling Stones.
588
00:31:25,504 --> 00:31:27,851
The phone rings
and it's Andrew Oldham saying
589
00:31:27,886 --> 00:31:30,233
"Can I speak to Terry
O'Neill?" So I speak to him.
590
00:31:30,267 --> 00:31:32,097
He said,
"Can you do what you did
591
00:31:32,131 --> 00:31:33,995
for the Beatles
for the Stones?"
592
00:31:34,030 --> 00:31:35,410
I said,
"Well, I'll give it a try."
593
00:31:35,445 --> 00:31:37,516
And that's when
I first met Bill.
594
00:31:37,550 --> 00:31:39,967
I took the pictures back,
and the picture editor said
595
00:31:40,001 --> 00:31:43,280
"God, they look like
five prehistoric monsters."
596
00:31:43,315 --> 00:31:45,420
It was a mania with the Beatles
597
00:31:45,455 --> 00:31:48,044
whereas with the Stones,
it was an appreciation.
598
00:31:48,078 --> 00:31:49,908
It became a cult.
599
00:31:50,978 --> 00:31:53,912
[instrumental music]
600
00:32:36,023 --> 00:32:39,681
Alright then, this is
the Rolling Stones interview
601
00:32:39,716 --> 00:32:42,167
for the fan club,
December, Christmastime.
602
00:32:42,201 --> 00:32:44,031
Mick, Bill and Charlie.
603
00:32:44,065 --> 00:32:47,172
When did you first get mobbed?
Do you remember that word?
604
00:32:47,206 --> 00:32:50,002
- Yeah.
- Well, that's a good question.
605
00:32:50,037 --> 00:32:51,555
I don't remember, you know.
606
00:32:51,590 --> 00:32:53,005
It was like something,
I remember...
607
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,594
- I do.
- Oh, well, Bill, okay, go on.
608
00:32:55,628 --> 00:32:58,286
He remembers everything.
I'm trying...
609
00:32:58,321 --> 00:33:00,495
We, the first time
we got mobbed..
610
00:33:00,530 --> 00:33:03,015
- Go on, where was it?
- This doesn't happen anymore.
611
00:33:03,050 --> 00:33:04,430
It was about a third of the way
612
00:33:04,465 --> 00:33:07,088
through
the Everly Brothers tour.
613
00:33:07,123 --> 00:33:08,710
- Really?
- Up in the north.
614
00:33:08,745 --> 00:33:10,160
It was either
in Manchester or Liverpool
615
00:33:10,195 --> 00:33:12,024
one of those places.
616
00:33:12,059 --> 00:33:15,027
Um, where we were actually
attacked for the first time
617
00:33:15,062 --> 00:33:17,167
when we tried to get out
of the theater.
618
00:33:17,202 --> 00:33:18,824
[crowd cheering]
619
00:33:18,858 --> 00:33:20,722
Okay, here we go.
620
00:33:20,757 --> 00:33:22,966
And now I'd like to introduce to you
621
00:33:23,001 --> 00:33:25,831
the fabulous Rolling Stones.
622
00:33:25,865 --> 00:33:28,558
[cheering]
623
00:33:28,592 --> 00:33:31,457
We'd go on stage
and go jan-ta-jan
624
00:33:31,492 --> 00:33:32,665
and the whole crowd
would pour on stage
625
00:33:32,700 --> 00:33:34,460
and that was the end
of the show.
626
00:33:34,495 --> 00:33:37,084
Two chords, end of the show.
627
00:33:37,118 --> 00:33:40,294
And if we got through three
songs, it was, like, amazing.
628
00:33:40,328 --> 00:33:43,262
[instrumental music]
629
00:33:48,716 --> 00:33:50,925
Sometimes they put police dogs
on each end of the stage
630
00:33:50,959 --> 00:33:53,445
to stop the kids getting on.
The police dogs went nuts.
631
00:33:53,479 --> 00:33:55,412
[dogs barking]
632
00:34:00,590 --> 00:34:03,317
The only way you could get out
of the theater in time
633
00:34:03,351 --> 00:34:06,492
when you played the last chord
of the last song
634
00:34:06,527 --> 00:34:09,116
the curtains closed
and they had to play
635
00:34:09,150 --> 00:34:10,393
"God Save The Queen."
636
00:34:10,427 --> 00:34:12,395
[crowd cheering]
637
00:34:12,429 --> 00:34:14,362
[instrumental "God Save The Queen"]
638
00:34:16,364 --> 00:34:19,298
And the audience had to stand
there for those two minutes.
639
00:34:19,333 --> 00:34:23,268
And that was the two minutes
we had to get off the stage
640
00:34:23,302 --> 00:34:25,511
down the corridors,
out of the building
641
00:34:25,546 --> 00:34:27,720
into the police van
or whatever it was
642
00:34:27,755 --> 00:34:31,034
the Black Mariah or the ambulance
643
00:34:31,069 --> 00:34:33,278
or the newspaper van
we were using
644
00:34:33,312 --> 00:34:36,074
to be inconspicuous.
645
00:34:36,108 --> 00:34:37,592
And gone.
646
00:34:42,804 --> 00:34:44,323
Sometimes we didn't get out
in time
647
00:34:44,358 --> 00:34:46,291
and then we just got mashed.
648
00:34:52,469 --> 00:34:55,231
And then we went abroad,
fucking hell.
649
00:34:55,265 --> 00:34:57,198
[The Rolling Stones
singing "Street Fighting Man"]
650
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,410
Please fasten your seatbelts
and do not smoke.
651
00:35:08,209 --> 00:35:11,764
♪ Everywhere I hear the sound ♪
652
00:35:11,799 --> 00:35:17,322
♪ Of marchingcharging feet boy ♪
653
00:35:17,356 --> 00:35:21,188
♪ 'Cause summer's hereand the time is right ♪
654
00:35:21,222 --> 00:35:26,779
♪ For fightingin the street boy ♪
655
00:35:26,814 --> 00:35:30,887
♪ Well now what cana poor boy do ♪
656
00:35:30,921 --> 00:35:34,649
♪ Except to singfor a rock and roll band? ♪
657
00:35:34,684 --> 00:35:37,583
♪ 'Causein sleepy London town ♪
658
00:35:37,618 --> 00:35:43,382
♪ There's just no placefor a street fighting man ♪
659
00:35:47,214 --> 00:35:49,423
You talk about being worn out
660
00:35:49,457 --> 00:35:50,976
but you've never been
as worn out
661
00:35:51,010 --> 00:35:53,461
as we were the other week.
662
00:35:53,496 --> 00:35:55,118
On Wednesday, the 15th
663
00:35:55,153 --> 00:35:57,534
we left Munich
and flew to West Berlin
664
00:35:57,569 --> 00:36:00,227
and that's where
the story really starts.
665
00:36:01,435 --> 00:36:02,884
We arrived at the airport.
666
00:36:02,919 --> 00:36:05,024
They said we'll hold
a press conference.
667
00:36:05,059 --> 00:36:06,923
We got in,
started the press conference.
668
00:36:06,957 --> 00:36:08,407
We were there five minutes,
and the kids
669
00:36:08,442 --> 00:36:10,168
are breaking the doors down
and everything
670
00:36:10,202 --> 00:36:12,308
and the police kept
bringing reinforcements in
671
00:36:12,342 --> 00:36:14,275
to hold the doors
and everything at each end.
672
00:36:15,828 --> 00:36:17,830
The chief of police
came over and he said
673
00:36:17,865 --> 00:36:19,970
"We can't hold 'em any longer.
You'll have to go."
674
00:36:20,005 --> 00:36:23,215
So we had to run out and fight
our way through to the bus
675
00:36:23,250 --> 00:36:25,942
and then the bus had to fight
its way through the crowd.
676
00:36:25,976 --> 00:36:29,635
And away we went with an
escort of about six police cars
677
00:36:29,670 --> 00:36:34,053
and about twenty helmeted
and armed police on motorbikes.
678
00:36:34,088 --> 00:36:36,055
Unbelievable, you know.
679
00:36:36,090 --> 00:36:38,161
I never had my movie camera
with me.
680
00:36:38,196 --> 00:36:40,232
I'm so annoyed
that I missed it, you know.
681
00:36:40,267 --> 00:36:42,200
[The Rolling Stones singing "Route 66"]
682
00:36:43,615 --> 00:36:46,307
♪ Well if you ever plan ♪
683
00:36:46,342 --> 00:36:47,964
We were over the moon to hear
684
00:36:47,998 --> 00:36:49,483
that we were gonna go
to America.
685
00:36:49,517 --> 00:36:51,209
♪ Just take my way ♪
686
00:36:51,243 --> 00:36:54,039
♪ That's the highwaythat's the best ♪
687
00:36:55,489 --> 00:36:59,182
♪ Get your kicks on Route 66 ♪
688
00:36:59,217 --> 00:37:01,771
The Beatles,
they made it in America.
689
00:37:01,805 --> 00:37:04,981
The Rolling Stones
were made by America.
690
00:37:05,015 --> 00:37:08,260
One started to be able
to watch with all of them
691
00:37:08,295 --> 00:37:10,642
some magical development
692
00:37:10,676 --> 00:37:13,300
as they were able to record
693
00:37:13,334 --> 00:37:15,923
with their feet touching the land
694
00:37:15,957 --> 00:37:17,614
that created their passion.
695
00:37:19,098 --> 00:37:21,480
You had to break every town
and every state.
696
00:37:21,515 --> 00:37:23,379
You were right
in the middle of it.
697
00:37:23,413 --> 00:37:26,002
♪ Oklahoma City looksoh so pretty ♪
698
00:37:26,036 --> 00:37:28,522
♪ You'll see Amarillo ♪
699
00:37:30,144 --> 00:37:31,456
Let's run one down.
700
00:37:33,078 --> 00:37:35,253
Rolling master A.
Master A, take one.
701
00:37:35,287 --> 00:37:37,669
[instrumental music]
702
00:37:37,703 --> 00:37:40,292
Going to Chess
was like a pilgrimage.
703
00:37:40,327 --> 00:37:44,952
We knew that that's where
most of our idols recorded.
704
00:37:44,986 --> 00:37:47,782
Bo Diddley,
Chuck Berry, Howlin' Wolf.
705
00:37:50,302 --> 00:37:52,477
We hoped we could get
the right sound
706
00:37:52,511 --> 00:37:54,755
that we weren't being able
to get in the UK.
707
00:37:54,789 --> 00:37:55,997
And we did.
708
00:37:58,068 --> 00:38:01,037
We played
their blues music brilliantly
709
00:38:01,071 --> 00:38:03,177
and that's what shocked them.
710
00:38:10,357 --> 00:38:13,463
- What's your ambition now?
- To be a musician.
711
00:38:16,432 --> 00:38:18,744
I'm not... I'm not a musician.
I just play in a band, you know.
712
00:38:18,779 --> 00:38:20,470
♪ Well I'm a king bee ♪
713
00:38:22,092 --> 00:38:23,404
♪ Buzzing around ♪
714
00:38:23,439 --> 00:38:24,474
There was something about
715
00:38:24,509 --> 00:38:26,234
Bill's bass lines in the Stones.
716
00:38:26,269 --> 00:38:28,858
It was the first thing
you'd hear
717
00:38:28,892 --> 00:38:31,136
the thing
that was most hooky about it.
718
00:38:31,170 --> 00:38:35,071
It was so precise
and so contained, you know.
719
00:38:35,105 --> 00:38:37,038
It wasn't gettin' away
with itself.
720
00:38:37,073 --> 00:38:38,902
It was just right.
721
00:38:38,937 --> 00:38:41,284
The best informed are the best players
722
00:38:41,319 --> 00:38:43,735
and I think Bill's one of those.
723
00:38:43,769 --> 00:38:45,219
It's never been pop.
724
00:38:45,253 --> 00:38:46,565
It's been rock and roll
725
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,498
but it's been informed by blues
726
00:38:48,533 --> 00:38:52,260
which is
the magical combination.
727
00:38:52,295 --> 00:38:55,609
Bill is like no other
bass player I've ever heard.
728
00:38:55,643 --> 00:38:58,508
He has an incredibly simplistic
approach to what he's doing.
729
00:38:58,543 --> 00:39:01,269
And I think that's just
Bill's complete lack of ego
730
00:39:01,304 --> 00:39:02,512
as a musician, really.
731
00:39:02,547 --> 00:39:04,376
It's very often not what you play
732
00:39:04,411 --> 00:39:06,344
but what you don't play,
what you leave out
733
00:39:06,378 --> 00:39:09,001
that makes a distinction
as to your abilities, really.
734
00:39:09,036 --> 00:39:11,590
♪ We can make honey ♪
735
00:39:11,625 --> 00:39:14,731
♪ The world has never seen ♪
736
00:39:14,766 --> 00:39:17,562
There were a lot of these
really technically brilliant
737
00:39:17,596 --> 00:39:21,911
bass players that can play me
off the stage any time.
738
00:39:21,945 --> 00:39:24,914
To me, they just sound like
lead guitar players.
739
00:39:24,948 --> 00:39:28,538
So busy that there doesn't
seem much room for anybody else.
740
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,508
♪ Sting-a-been ♪
741
00:39:32,542 --> 00:39:34,475
[indistinct chatter]
742
00:39:44,382 --> 00:39:47,454
The key for me
is Bill and Charlie together.
743
00:39:47,488 --> 00:39:50,042
When they play together,
it's extraordinary.
744
00:39:50,077 --> 00:39:52,528
The power of the two of them
is greater than the four.
745
00:39:52,562 --> 00:39:56,014
Just that magic chemical
combination of feel.
746
00:39:56,048 --> 00:39:58,603
♪ I just wannamake love to you ♪
747
00:39:58,637 --> 00:40:02,434
Really easy guy.
And a really good bass player.
748
00:40:02,469 --> 00:40:04,919
Very, very unassuming
bass player.
749
00:40:04,954 --> 00:40:07,059
And some of the records
that we made
750
00:40:07,094 --> 00:40:09,821
he's quite brilliant on.
751
00:40:09,855 --> 00:40:12,099
Fortunately, the pair of us
752
00:40:12,133 --> 00:40:14,791
made a living
out of doing it together.
753
00:40:16,862 --> 00:40:19,175
We were always referred
to as the straightest
754
00:40:19,209 --> 00:40:21,419
rhythm section in rock and roll.
755
00:40:33,983 --> 00:40:35,260
[indistinct chatter]
756
00:40:37,020 --> 00:40:38,608
Bill, how did this,
uh, come about?
757
00:40:38,643 --> 00:40:41,577
This, uh, with writing
miserable articles
758
00:40:41,611 --> 00:40:44,234
about the Stones?
Did this originate in Europe?
759
00:40:44,269 --> 00:40:47,134
It started when we started
in England, you know
760
00:40:47,168 --> 00:40:49,723
but, um, by now in England
761
00:40:49,757 --> 00:40:51,897
everybody knows
what we really are like
762
00:40:51,932 --> 00:40:54,555
so they don't write things
that are untrue, you know.
763
00:41:02,252 --> 00:41:04,669
The Beatles are loved
by pretty well everybody
764
00:41:04,703 --> 00:41:07,154
from the moms
down to the teenagers.
765
00:41:07,188 --> 00:41:10,260
It seems to me that
you're either loved or hated.
766
00:41:11,676 --> 00:41:14,886
Everything we did
was so alien to the norm.
767
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,784
They just did not get it.
768
00:41:16,819 --> 00:41:20,478
Why we didn't succumb
to being showbiz-y.
769
00:41:20,512 --> 00:41:22,480
All the other bands
would succumb to doing
770
00:41:22,514 --> 00:41:24,999
what they're told just
for that bit of publicity.
771
00:41:25,034 --> 00:41:28,037
We didn't need it, we avoided
publicity in the end.
772
00:41:30,867 --> 00:41:33,387
It was us against the world.
It really was.
773
00:41:33,421 --> 00:41:35,631
We were just refusing
to conform.
774
00:41:38,944 --> 00:41:41,257
If a kid wants
to let his hair grow long
775
00:41:41,291 --> 00:41:44,294
or he wants to wear rags,
or he wants to play a guitar
776
00:41:44,329 --> 00:41:45,606
or do anything,
or kick a ball in the street
777
00:41:45,641 --> 00:41:46,883
it's nothing to do with us.
778
00:41:46,918 --> 00:41:48,678
If he likes to listen
to our music, that's great
779
00:41:48,713 --> 00:41:50,887
if he wants to come to a concert.
780
00:41:50,922 --> 00:41:52,544
But apart from that, we didn't believe
781
00:41:52,579 --> 00:41:54,166
we had any responsibility.
782
00:42:03,555 --> 00:42:06,282
I always thought he didn't
like me being in the Stones
783
00:42:06,316 --> 00:42:08,422
'cause he never
said anything nice.
784
00:42:08,456 --> 00:42:10,458
He was always moaning about it.
785
00:42:12,426 --> 00:42:14,532
I just don't think
that generation could get
786
00:42:14,566 --> 00:42:18,225
into their head that
their kids could be successful
787
00:42:18,259 --> 00:42:21,055
in something
that wasn't a normal job.
788
00:42:22,781 --> 00:42:26,129
So when I succeeded
playing music
789
00:42:26,164 --> 00:42:28,822
a... and doing better than them
790
00:42:28,856 --> 00:42:30,789
it was out of order, wasn't it?
791
00:42:32,308 --> 00:42:35,035
But my mom did tell me
792
00:42:35,069 --> 00:42:36,588
on a couple of occasions
793
00:42:36,623 --> 00:42:38,452
when t... they were in the pub
794
00:42:38,486 --> 00:42:41,075
uh, when someone was going on about
795
00:42:41,110 --> 00:42:44,251
"Stones, dirty lot,"
he would stick up for us.
796
00:42:44,285 --> 00:42:46,494
He'd tell them
to mind their own business.
797
00:42:47,979 --> 00:42:50,809
And so he did it without my knowledge
798
00:42:50,844 --> 00:42:52,846
but he never did it to my face.
799
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,020
But he wasn't
that kind of a person.
800
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,197
I mean, looking back,
I don't blame him
801
00:42:59,231 --> 00:43:02,614
because he... he had
a terrible childhood.
802
00:43:02,649 --> 00:43:04,547
A really terrible childhood.
803
00:43:15,662 --> 00:43:19,079
Everything was changin'
in those early '60s.
804
00:43:19,113 --> 00:43:21,046
[The Rolling Stones singing
"19th Nervous Breakdown"]
805
00:43:24,084 --> 00:43:26,880
♪ You're the kind of personyou meet at certain ♪
806
00:43:26,914 --> 00:43:29,158
♪ Dismal dull affairs ♪
807
00:43:29,192 --> 00:43:31,816
♪ Center of a crowdtalking much too loud ♪
808
00:43:31,850 --> 00:43:34,646
The music, art, fashion.
809
00:43:34,681 --> 00:43:37,373
Suddenly,
girls were wearing miniskirts.
810
00:43:37,407 --> 00:43:39,306
It just went
right across the board.
811
00:43:39,340 --> 00:43:42,274
♪ And though you tryyou just can't hide ♪
812
00:43:42,309 --> 00:43:44,829
All the clubs
started to appear in London.
813
00:43:44,863 --> 00:43:47,728
You'd bump into the Beatles
or the Animals or the Hollies.
814
00:43:47,763 --> 00:43:49,454
Ah, they were just everywhere.
815
00:43:49,488 --> 00:43:50,938
You just moved from one to the other
816
00:43:50,973 --> 00:43:52,906
and sometimes you saw live acts.
817
00:43:54,839 --> 00:43:56,668
You'd go
and see Benny King somewhere
818
00:43:56,703 --> 00:43:59,326
and then you'd see
Lee Dorsey somewhere else.
819
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,640
I'm at the Scotch of St.
James, I met Otis Redding
820
00:44:02,674 --> 00:44:05,159
and talked to him
for about half an hour.
821
00:44:05,194 --> 00:44:07,921
You know, when you met
those people in those days
822
00:44:07,955 --> 00:44:10,440
they were like gods to me.
823
00:44:10,475 --> 00:44:12,719
I think a lot of it
had to do with the music
824
00:44:12,753 --> 00:44:14,928
and then the birth pill
825
00:44:14,962 --> 00:44:16,757
all them British movies
826
00:44:16,792 --> 00:44:18,276
it was coming from everywhere.
827
00:44:18,310 --> 00:44:19,518
It was sort of a hurricane
828
00:44:19,553 --> 00:44:21,866
and we were coming
in the middle of it.
829
00:44:21,900 --> 00:44:24,351
♪ Your father'sstill perfecting ways ♪
830
00:44:24,385 --> 00:44:26,767
♪ Of making sealing wax ♪
831
00:44:26,802 --> 00:44:28,596
♪ You better stop ♪
832
00:44:38,261 --> 00:44:39,815
Me and Brian used to go out
to the clubs
833
00:44:39,849 --> 00:44:41,264
and pick up girls.
834
00:44:44,923 --> 00:44:48,858
They used to camp outside
the hotel on the grass.
835
00:44:48,893 --> 00:44:51,136
You know, of course,
I jumped at it
836
00:44:51,171 --> 00:44:55,416
and it just became part
of my life after that.
837
00:44:55,451 --> 00:44:58,765
It became a habit just through
838
00:44:58,799 --> 00:45:02,458
honestly, loneliness
and just wanting affection.
839
00:45:02,492 --> 00:45:04,356
And these girls
were affectionate.
840
00:45:04,391 --> 00:45:06,876
[crowd cheering]
841
00:45:06,911 --> 00:45:09,085
There was probably an addiction to sex
842
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,432
because I wasn't addicted
to drugs
843
00:45:11,467 --> 00:45:13,400
and I wasn't addicted to wine.
844
00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:24,998
My first marriage,
it never worked.
845
00:45:25,032 --> 00:45:26,931
It was down to the same old thing
846
00:45:26,965 --> 00:45:30,555
of marrying the girl
next door was the phrase.
847
00:45:32,212 --> 00:45:33,765
Getting married
got me out of the family.
848
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,630
Of course, it did,
out of the home.
849
00:45:36,664 --> 00:45:39,357
It was hard
coming home to my wife
850
00:45:39,391 --> 00:45:41,290
who obviously knew
what was going on.
851
00:45:41,324 --> 00:45:44,155
But then I found at one time,
she had a relationship going.
852
00:45:44,189 --> 00:45:46,122
I mean, obviously,
I don't blame her.
853
00:45:47,606 --> 00:45:50,437
And then you end up
with a child out of the blue
854
00:45:50,471 --> 00:45:52,922
and you just stay together
for the sake of the child
855
00:45:52,957 --> 00:45:55,822
which is always
the worst thing you can do.
856
00:45:55,856 --> 00:45:57,789
Until I finally got divorced.
857
00:46:08,489 --> 00:46:10,733
She insisted
that she would take Stephen
858
00:46:10,768 --> 00:46:14,668
to South Africa with her,
which really hurt me.
859
00:46:18,154 --> 00:46:21,744
But then I thought, "Well,
it's better that he grows up
860
00:46:21,779 --> 00:46:25,334
with one parent
in a normal way of life."
861
00:46:25,368 --> 00:46:27,785
If it isn't with me,
then it has to be with her.
862
00:46:31,616 --> 00:46:33,100
I'll get Stephen to say
something to you.
863
00:46:33,135 --> 00:46:34,550
Just a minute.
864
00:46:34,584 --> 00:46:36,448
Come and say hello to Dave.
865
00:46:36,483 --> 00:46:38,899
Come and say hello to Dave.
866
00:46:38,934 --> 00:46:40,867
- Hello.
- Say hello, Dave.
867
00:46:40,901 --> 00:46:43,214
- Hello.
- Say how are you?
868
00:46:43,248 --> 00:46:47,874
How are you?
I will see you soon. Bye-bye.
869
00:46:49,565 --> 00:46:52,085
He came back
in the summer of '68.
870
00:46:53,672 --> 00:46:56,330
And when I saw the state
he was in, I was shocked
871
00:46:56,365 --> 00:46:59,023
because he was complainin'
of toothache
872
00:46:59,057 --> 00:47:02,336
he was thin,
he didn't look well at all.
873
00:47:02,371 --> 00:47:05,823
So I refused to return him
to South Africa.
874
00:47:05,857 --> 00:47:09,965
And then I had to fight
for him and a divorce.
875
00:47:11,794 --> 00:47:13,175
I went to the court
876
00:47:13,209 --> 00:47:16,626
and the judge gave me custody,
which was a miracle.
877
00:47:18,905 --> 00:47:21,424
And from that day on,
I brought Stephen up.
878
00:47:33,781 --> 00:47:35,266
I broke up from my wife.
879
00:47:35,300 --> 00:47:37,785
Astrid, my girlfriend,
moved in with me.
880
00:47:37,820 --> 00:47:39,753
I'd met her by then.
881
00:47:50,937 --> 00:47:53,146
We arrived at this gate
882
00:47:53,180 --> 00:47:56,804
and a gardener came
with a shotgun broken off
883
00:47:56,839 --> 00:47:58,634
and said, "What do you want?"
884
00:47:58,668 --> 00:48:00,498
And we said,
"Is this Gedding Hall?"
885
00:48:00,532 --> 00:48:02,293
And he said, "Yes."
886
00:48:02,327 --> 00:48:05,020
And I said, "We understand
that the place is goin' up
887
00:48:05,054 --> 00:48:06,987
for sale tomorrow.
Could we have a look?"
888
00:48:07,022 --> 00:48:08,678
And he said,
"Well, the owners are not here
889
00:48:08,713 --> 00:48:10,784
but I'll show you
'round the outside."
890
00:48:13,821 --> 00:48:16,928
And I saw this unbelievable house
891
00:48:16,963 --> 00:48:19,206
which I just couldn't believe.
892
00:48:20,449 --> 00:48:22,900
Oh, God, it was extraordinary.
893
00:48:29,078 --> 00:48:32,081
The owner was Jeff Allen.
894
00:48:32,116 --> 00:48:34,877
He took me into the lounge
for a cup of tea
895
00:48:34,912 --> 00:48:39,675
and I saw a 10 by 8 photo
on the top of the TV
896
00:48:39,709 --> 00:48:43,023
of Ronnie,
Reggie and Charlie Kray
897
00:48:43,058 --> 00:48:45,750
saying "Love to Jeff
from the boys."
898
00:48:45,784 --> 00:48:47,786
"Uh, what's that, Mr. Allen?"
899
00:48:47,821 --> 00:48:49,478
He says, "Oh, they... they're the Krays.
900
00:48:49,512 --> 00:48:51,859
They're friends of mine.
They're nice lads."
901
00:48:54,345 --> 00:48:56,071
I found later
that he was a godfather
902
00:48:56,105 --> 00:48:59,143
and he would invest their
money in country houses and stuff
903
00:48:59,177 --> 00:49:01,800
but that's another story.
904
00:49:01,835 --> 00:49:03,630
I asked him how much he wanted
for the property
905
00:49:03,664 --> 00:49:06,219
and it was 45,000 pounds.
906
00:49:06,253 --> 00:49:08,773
After being a top band
for five years
907
00:49:08,807 --> 00:49:10,085
we didn't have money.
908
00:49:10,119 --> 00:49:12,708
Money always seemed to vanish.
909
00:49:12,742 --> 00:49:14,986
Jeff, bless him, did a deal
910
00:49:15,021 --> 00:49:18,162
and let me have it
for a price I could afford.
911
00:49:18,196 --> 00:49:19,991
He said, "I'll tell you what.
912
00:49:20,026 --> 00:49:22,890
"I admire you. You're a
self-made man like me.
913
00:49:22,925 --> 00:49:25,790
"I come from the east end of
London, you come from London.
914
00:49:25,824 --> 00:49:27,516
It's yours."
915
00:49:27,550 --> 00:49:28,724
It's a wonderful place.
916
00:49:28,758 --> 00:49:31,313
I mean, my soul is there,
I think.
917
00:49:31,347 --> 00:49:33,522
I'm never happier
than when I'm there.
918
00:49:36,352 --> 00:49:38,906
So when the drug busts
were coming in '67
919
00:49:38,941 --> 00:49:40,874
I was just reading it
in the press.
920
00:49:42,151 --> 00:49:44,429
Mr. Jagger
accused of allowing his home
921
00:49:44,464 --> 00:49:46,466
at West Wittering
to be used for the purpose
922
00:49:46,500 --> 00:49:50,159
of smoking cannabis resin,
better known as hashish.
923
00:49:50,194 --> 00:49:52,748
And after the three-minute
hearing, Jones came out
924
00:49:52,782 --> 00:49:55,268
through the back of the court
and drove away
925
00:49:55,302 --> 00:49:57,580
crouching down
on the rear seat of a car.
926
00:49:57,615 --> 00:49:59,755
I honestly didn't know whether
who was gonna be in jail
927
00:49:59,789 --> 00:50:02,378
what week and who was gonna be
in the studio.
928
00:50:02,413 --> 00:50:04,277
I didn't want anything
to do with drugs.
929
00:50:04,311 --> 00:50:06,693
I didn't confront it with them.
930
00:50:06,727 --> 00:50:09,696
I just ignored it, stepped away from it
931
00:50:09,730 --> 00:50:13,044
and got stuck
into what I wanted to do.
932
00:50:13,079 --> 00:50:16,047
I was avoiding facing their problem
933
00:50:16,082 --> 00:50:17,876
because it wasn't my problem.
934
00:50:17,911 --> 00:50:20,224
So I was living two lives,
really.
935
00:50:21,639 --> 00:50:24,642
Once, I had a puff
of some bloody joint they had.
936
00:50:24,676 --> 00:50:28,853
Apparently, it had
elephant tranquilizer in it.
937
00:50:28,887 --> 00:50:30,993
I went down this corridor
and there was someone coming
938
00:50:31,028 --> 00:50:32,857
towards me
that I kind of vaguely knew
939
00:50:32,891 --> 00:50:34,893
so I stopped and chatted to them
940
00:50:34,928 --> 00:50:37,862
for about 10 or 15 minutes.
941
00:50:37,896 --> 00:50:40,002
And then I looked up again
and it was me.
942
00:50:40,037 --> 00:50:41,762
I was looking in the mirror.
943
00:50:41,797 --> 00:50:43,799
And I thought,
"I don't fucking need this."
944
00:50:48,873 --> 00:50:51,117
I have to have my feet
on the ground.
945
00:50:51,151 --> 00:50:53,257
I can't go floatin' off.
946
00:50:53,291 --> 00:50:56,225
The emptiness underneath me
terrifies me.
947
00:50:56,260 --> 00:50:58,469
I've got a phobia about it.
948
00:50:58,503 --> 00:51:00,471
Most people think
there's something else
949
00:51:00,505 --> 00:51:03,646
on the other side of the street
which they're not experiencin'
950
00:51:03,681 --> 00:51:07,236
and so they wanna go there
and try it out, don't they?
951
00:51:07,271 --> 00:51:09,204
So if you look at any band
952
00:51:09,238 --> 00:51:12,828
and I mean any band
from the mid '60s
953
00:51:12,862 --> 00:51:15,486
you've got losses. Every band.
954
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,489
Searching for something
that really ain't there.
955
00:51:18,523 --> 00:51:21,078
Brian was a typical example
of that.
956
00:51:23,425 --> 00:51:26,359
I was really sad when Brian started
957
00:51:26,393 --> 00:51:28,361
to, uh, fall to bits basically.
958
00:51:29,845 --> 00:51:32,192
We'd be in LA
and we'd go out to the clubs
959
00:51:32,227 --> 00:51:33,780
and he'd be on LSD.
960
00:51:33,814 --> 00:51:36,610
And he... he'd be getting out
the limo and going
961
00:51:36,645 --> 00:51:38,405
"Oh, look, there's snakes
all over the ground."
962
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:39,924
He'd be jumping about
all over the ground.
963
00:51:39,958 --> 00:51:42,996
Fucking hell, Brian. You know,
"The ceiling's on fire."
964
00:51:43,030 --> 00:51:45,171
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, it certainly is, Brian.
965
00:51:45,205 --> 00:51:47,449
I just used to let him
get on with it, but, um
966
00:51:47,483 --> 00:51:49,865
he would go off
on those tangents a lot.
967
00:51:55,802 --> 00:51:58,322
He was thrown out of the band
968
00:51:58,356 --> 00:52:00,427
and he died a month later.
969
00:52:26,039 --> 00:52:28,075
Charlie phoned me up.
970
00:52:28,110 --> 00:52:30,630
He just said, "Brian died."
971
00:52:30,664 --> 00:52:32,701
I couldn't believe it, you know.
972
00:52:32,735 --> 00:52:35,911
The press was so bad
at the funeral.
973
00:52:35,945 --> 00:52:39,846
I mean, everybody's around
the grave, you know
974
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,607
and they're... they're putting
the coffin in and all that
975
00:52:42,642 --> 00:52:45,576
and the, the preacher's
reading... reading out
976
00:52:45,610 --> 00:52:47,302
and, like, all his family
and relatives
977
00:52:47,336 --> 00:52:50,374
are all, like, tranquilized
and everything.
978
00:52:50,408 --> 00:52:51,789
Everybody's crying and upset.
979
00:52:51,823 --> 00:52:54,067
There's thousands of fans everywhere.
980
00:52:54,101 --> 00:52:55,310
And there's kids running up to you
981
00:52:55,344 --> 00:52:57,484
asking for autographs, you know.
982
00:52:57,519 --> 00:53:00,729
And, uh, there's press guys
with cameras everywhere
983
00:53:00,763 --> 00:53:04,008
like all leaning over you
and getting snaps in the..
984
00:53:04,042 --> 00:53:05,389
Oh, man, it was really sick.
985
00:53:05,423 --> 00:53:10,083
There's... movies going
and all that, you know.
986
00:53:10,117 --> 00:53:11,740
There was no respect at all.
987
00:53:13,259 --> 00:53:17,021
And when he went,
it really sort of got me bad.
988
00:53:21,025 --> 00:53:23,130
Somebody a bit special.
989
00:53:31,380 --> 00:53:33,348
That planned Hyde Park concert
990
00:53:33,382 --> 00:53:36,213
ended up being a bit
of a memorial to Brian
991
00:53:36,247 --> 00:53:38,387
because of his death
two days earlier.
992
00:53:39,595 --> 00:53:42,253
An English park
on a Saturday afternoon
993
00:53:42,288 --> 00:53:44,428
July 5, 1969.
994
00:53:44,462 --> 00:53:48,190
There must be 200,000 people
here, youngsters.
995
00:53:48,225 --> 00:53:49,812
In about another hour,
I should imagine
996
00:53:49,847 --> 00:53:52,263
there will be a quarter
of a million.
997
00:53:52,298 --> 00:53:54,403
And it was extraordinary
that day.
998
00:54:06,035 --> 00:54:07,968
[crowd cheering]
999
00:54:17,495 --> 00:54:19,083
Alright!
1000
00:54:19,117 --> 00:54:22,051
[singing "I'm Yours And I'm Hers"]
1001
00:54:31,198 --> 00:54:34,926
♪ You know I'm yours
and I'm hers ♪
1002
00:54:34,961 --> 00:54:38,413
♪ Somebody else's too ♪
1003
00:54:42,969 --> 00:54:46,421
♪ You know I'm yours
and I'm hers ♪
1004
00:54:54,463 --> 00:54:56,741
It was Mick Taylor's
first show with us.
1005
00:54:56,776 --> 00:54:59,157
That must have been
a staggerin' thing for him.
1006
00:54:59,192 --> 00:55:01,263
The first gig with a band
1007
00:55:01,298 --> 00:55:04,991
and you're playin'
half a million people.
1008
00:55:05,025 --> 00:55:07,683
From every direction I looked at
1009
00:55:07,718 --> 00:55:09,789
there were just heads
1010
00:55:09,823 --> 00:55:12,412
and it was just like a carpet
of different colored hair.
1011
00:55:12,447 --> 00:55:15,208
That's what
I could explain it as.
1012
00:55:19,454 --> 00:55:21,352
The whole day was wonderful.
1013
00:55:21,387 --> 00:55:25,529
There was no... no violence,
no fights, no drugs, no..
1014
00:55:25,563 --> 00:55:27,634
It just went like a dream.
1015
00:55:34,779 --> 00:55:37,023
That autumn, we set off
on a tour of America
1016
00:55:37,057 --> 00:55:39,474
with Mick Taylor
and it was a wonderful tour.
1017
00:55:41,545 --> 00:55:44,479
The future of the band
was looking very healthy
1018
00:55:44,513 --> 00:55:45,928
and positive.
1019
00:55:45,963 --> 00:55:48,517
You didn't have so much
of the screamin'
1020
00:55:48,552 --> 00:55:51,555
or very little of it,
and people were listening.
1021
00:55:52,659 --> 00:55:54,799
And then came Altamont.
1022
00:55:54,834 --> 00:55:58,251
We wanted to repeat
Hyde Park in America
1023
00:55:58,285 --> 00:56:00,909
as a thank you to the US fans.
1024
00:56:00,943 --> 00:56:02,842
Okay, it's definitely on.
1025
00:56:02,876 --> 00:56:04,568
The Rolling Stones
are not going to appear
1026
00:56:04,602 --> 00:56:07,294
at the, uh, raceway in Sonoma.
1027
00:56:07,329 --> 00:56:09,745
They've decided now they're
going to hold the concert
1028
00:56:09,780 --> 00:56:13,128
with the Grateful Dead, the
Jefferson Airplane, Santana
1029
00:56:13,162 --> 00:56:16,062
and, of course, the Rolling
Stones at Altamont Speedway
1030
00:56:16,096 --> 00:56:18,409
which is halfway between
Tracy and Livermore.
1031
00:56:18,444 --> 00:56:20,377
What you do
is you catch Highway 80..
1032
00:56:28,177 --> 00:56:29,731
I don't really like
talking about Altamont
1033
00:56:29,765 --> 00:56:33,562
'cause it was such
an awful, awful, awful event.
1034
00:56:33,597 --> 00:56:35,702
The violence just never stopped.
1035
00:56:35,737 --> 00:56:38,395
And we kept trying to stop it,
and we knew if we just
1036
00:56:38,429 --> 00:56:40,155
walked off the stage,
it'd probably be worse.
1037
00:56:40,189 --> 00:56:42,709
So we hung on
and tried to cool people out
1038
00:56:42,744 --> 00:56:44,401
and it didn't work.
1039
00:56:51,477 --> 00:56:53,548
Four people in the audience,
uh, died
1040
00:56:53,582 --> 00:56:56,102
one of them from stab wounds,
and the argument goes on
1041
00:56:56,136 --> 00:56:58,518
about how and what is to blame for that
1042
00:56:58,553 --> 00:57:01,625
or how that could have been
prevented, I should say.
1043
00:57:01,659 --> 00:57:03,868
Sometimes
things get out of control
1044
00:57:03,903 --> 00:57:06,388
and you can't do
anything about it.
1045
00:57:06,423 --> 00:57:09,529
It was the death of the '60s,
that's what they called it.
1046
00:57:09,564 --> 00:57:12,808
The death of the '60s.
It was, really.
1047
00:57:12,843 --> 00:57:16,571
It was the time when the
Stones could have just died
1048
00:57:16,605 --> 00:57:18,400
and they nearly did.
1049
00:57:28,203 --> 00:57:31,137
[The Rolling Stones singing
"You Can't Always Get"]
1050
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,488
By 1970, we all owed
1051
00:57:37,523 --> 00:57:40,802
around about 100,000 pounds
to the Inland Revenue
1052
00:57:40,836 --> 00:57:42,804
which we thought had been paid.
1053
00:57:42,838 --> 00:57:46,601
Tax with the labor government
was between 83 and 93%.
1054
00:57:46,635 --> 00:57:48,982
There was no way we could possibly
1055
00:57:49,017 --> 00:57:50,397
earn enough money
to pay it back.
1056
00:57:50,432 --> 00:57:52,399
♪ I saw her today ♪
1057
00:57:52,434 --> 00:57:54,505
It was impossible for us
to stay in England
1058
00:57:54,540 --> 00:57:57,025
and so we had to go to France.
1059
00:57:57,059 --> 00:58:00,097
♪ A glass of winein her hand ♪
1060
00:58:00,131 --> 00:58:02,340
And then, of course, we became
the very first tax exiles.
1061
00:58:02,375 --> 00:58:05,999
♪ I knew she was gonna meether connection ♪
1062
00:58:06,034 --> 00:58:07,656
It was difficult.
We're probably
1063
00:58:07,691 --> 00:58:09,727
the most robbed band ever
1064
00:58:09,762 --> 00:58:11,764
but you learn, don't you?
1065
00:58:14,352 --> 00:58:18,253
♪ You can't always getwhat you want ♪
1066
00:58:18,287 --> 00:58:20,669
I mean, some bands have
one shot, they got nothing
1067
00:58:20,704 --> 00:58:21,981
that's the end of it.
1068
00:58:22,015 --> 00:58:24,431
They don't have the chance
of moving on
1069
00:58:24,466 --> 00:58:25,950
to improve their situation.
1070
00:58:25,985 --> 00:58:30,817
♪ You can't always getwhat you want ♪
1071
00:58:30,852 --> 00:58:34,545
But I hated leaving England.
I hated it.
1072
00:58:34,580 --> 00:58:37,306
But we were told
there was no alternative.
1073
00:58:37,341 --> 00:58:38,722
[plane whirring]
1074
00:58:46,523 --> 00:58:48,663
When I left that mornin'
1075
00:58:48,697 --> 00:58:52,356
and I left my mom and dad
there and my son, Stephen
1076
00:58:52,390 --> 00:58:55,359
I was tearful,
and I really didn't wanna go.
1077
00:58:55,393 --> 00:58:58,293
♪ Fair share of abuse ♪
1078
00:58:58,327 --> 00:59:01,020
I was sure I wasn't gonna like
living in France.
1079
00:59:11,755 --> 00:59:14,689
[instrumental music]
1080
00:59:59,078 --> 01:00:01,770
People thought we all went
and lived in the same house.
1081
01:00:01,805 --> 01:00:03,116
[chuckles]
1082
01:00:06,672 --> 01:00:08,639
We had to look
for somewhere to record
1083
01:00:08,674 --> 01:00:11,366
because, you know,
we needed a new record.
1084
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,644
And in the end,
we never found anything.
1085
01:00:33,802 --> 01:00:36,598
We have to go
to Keith's house to do it.
1086
01:00:36,633 --> 01:00:38,220
Keith insists,
otherwise Keith ain't ever
1087
01:00:38,255 --> 01:00:40,429
gonna go to the session,
you know.
1088
01:00:42,259 --> 01:00:44,744
That's where we recorded
Exile On Main Street.
1089
01:00:48,506 --> 01:00:51,233
We did it in the basement
of his house.
1090
01:00:51,268 --> 01:00:52,752
It was a sad time
1091
01:00:52,787 --> 01:00:56,445
because everybody just got
absorbed in takin' drugs.
1092
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,379
I didn't want it. I didn't want
anything of it, apart from the music.
1093
01:00:59,414 --> 01:01:02,348
[The Rolling Stones singing "Hip Shake"]
1094
01:01:09,631 --> 01:01:12,116
♪ I wanna tell youabout a dance ♪
1095
01:01:12,151 --> 01:01:14,705
We were in this basement,
which was like an oven.
1096
01:01:14,740 --> 01:01:18,019
And there's pictures of us
lying on the floor, you know.
1097
01:01:18,053 --> 01:01:22,299
Whatever inconveniences,
whatever things were impossible
1098
01:01:22,333 --> 01:01:24,784
to deal with sometimes,
it worked.
1099
01:01:26,303 --> 01:01:29,030
We were dynamite.
Un... unbeatable, really.
1100
01:01:30,238 --> 01:01:32,378
Title five, take one.
1101
01:01:33,344 --> 01:01:36,278
[instrumental music]
1102
01:01:51,673 --> 01:01:53,502
Last week, New York City
finally got to see
1103
01:01:53,537 --> 01:01:54,503
and hear the Rolling Stones.
1104
01:01:54,538 --> 01:01:55,850
We were the last stop on a tour
1105
01:01:55,884 --> 01:01:57,817
that I'm sure most of you
have heard about.
1106
01:02:01,890 --> 01:02:03,616
Would you ever do 30 cities again
1107
01:02:03,650 --> 01:02:05,929
in that amount of time
if it were up to you?
1108
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,035
As long as I get a holiday,
you know.
1109
01:02:09,070 --> 01:02:11,175
There's never been so much
energy as on this tour.
1110
01:03:10,131 --> 01:03:11,477
If the Stones broke up
1111
01:03:11,511 --> 01:03:13,306
I don't wanna start any rumors
'cause there aren't any
1112
01:03:13,341 --> 01:03:16,447
but if they did,
say, next week after this tour
1113
01:03:16,482 --> 01:03:17,794
what would you do?
1114
01:03:20,866 --> 01:03:22,799
You know, I always tried
to live a normal life
1115
01:03:22,833 --> 01:03:25,249
when I would finished
recording or finished touring
1116
01:03:25,284 --> 01:03:28,149
or finished the concert
or whatever it was
1117
01:03:28,183 --> 01:03:31,117
I'd go back
and try to be normal.
1118
01:03:33,706 --> 01:03:36,674
We managed to build finances
1119
01:03:36,709 --> 01:03:39,919
and be able to pay our taxes
and still have money.
1120
01:03:39,954 --> 01:03:42,301
And then, of course,
it opened me
1121
01:03:42,335 --> 01:03:44,303
to a whole new life here.
1122
01:03:48,755 --> 01:03:51,689
[instrumental music]
1123
01:04:03,632 --> 01:04:05,703
You've got a lovely suntan.
1124
01:04:05,738 --> 01:04:08,085
This presumably is, uh,
south of France suntan
1125
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:09,915
because that's where
you're living now, is it not?
1126
01:04:09,949 --> 01:04:11,468
Yeah, that's my French look.
1127
01:04:11,502 --> 01:04:13,677
What do you do when you're
there apart from sunbathe?
1128
01:04:13,711 --> 01:04:16,369
In France, there are
so many different people
1129
01:04:16,404 --> 01:04:18,233
to... to mix with
1130
01:04:18,268 --> 01:04:20,408
and, uh, I meet
with quite a lot of them
1131
01:04:20,442 --> 01:04:23,204
and going to art exhibitions,
all kinds of stuff.
1132
01:04:23,238 --> 01:04:24,861
It's really nice.
1133
01:04:26,276 --> 01:04:27,725
And I did meet Andre Verde
1134
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,452
who was the one
that introduced me to artists
1135
01:04:30,487 --> 01:04:32,730
and poets and writers
and sculptors.
1136
01:04:48,954 --> 01:04:50,507
And you would go to the little dinners
1137
01:04:50,541 --> 01:04:52,716
in the local restaurants.
1138
01:04:52,750 --> 01:04:54,752
It became
a lovely little family.
1139
01:05:00,724 --> 01:05:03,865
And then I met Jimmy Baldwin,
fucking hell.
1140
01:05:03,900 --> 01:05:05,591
I met him at the Colombe d'Or.
1141
01:05:05,625 --> 01:05:06,903
I'd go to his house
1142
01:05:06,937 --> 01:05:09,767
and I realized how much
he loved Ray Charles.
1143
01:05:09,802 --> 01:05:11,252
And I didn't know a lot
about Ray Charles.
1144
01:05:11,286 --> 01:05:13,461
I'd seen a Ray Charles concert
1145
01:05:13,495 --> 01:05:16,153
with Keith and Charlie
in '64 in England.
1146
01:05:16,188 --> 01:05:17,465
I said to Jimmy, "Can I borrow
1147
01:05:17,499 --> 01:05:18,880
some of your Ray Charles'
records?"
1148
01:05:18,915 --> 01:05:20,192
He said, "Yeah."
1149
01:05:20,226 --> 01:05:22,642
He said, "I'll bring them
up to your house."
1150
01:05:22,677 --> 01:05:24,403
And, God, over the next few days
1151
01:05:24,437 --> 01:05:26,715
I just played Ray Charles nonstop
1152
01:05:26,750 --> 01:05:31,099
and he became my favorite
musician of the 20th century.
1153
01:05:33,067 --> 01:05:35,517
Then Andre Verde invited me
1154
01:05:35,552 --> 01:05:38,417
to go to Marc Chagall's house.
1155
01:05:38,451 --> 01:05:41,523
"You mean Marc Chagall,
the painter?"
1156
01:05:41,558 --> 01:05:42,766
He said, "Yeah, yeah."
1157
01:05:44,216 --> 01:05:46,149
He was absolutely wonderful.
1158
01:05:48,151 --> 01:05:52,120
He said, "Your long hair,
not original, change it."
1159
01:05:52,155 --> 01:05:54,329
I said, "But we were the
first band with long hair."
1160
01:05:54,364 --> 01:05:57,332
He said, "Oh, that's okay then.
Then you are the originals."
1161
01:05:57,367 --> 01:05:59,127
[chuckles]
1162
01:05:59,162 --> 01:06:01,958
I was friends with him for the
last eight years of his life.
1163
01:06:04,374 --> 01:06:08,343
I got to know the...
the simple way he lived.
1164
01:06:08,378 --> 01:06:10,518
You don't avoid
all them little things.
1165
01:06:10,552 --> 01:06:13,210
They're all part of living,
aren't they?
1166
01:06:13,245 --> 01:06:15,661
Of course, then you enjoy
the bigger things better
1167
01:06:15,695 --> 01:06:17,663
if you deal
with the little things.
1168
01:06:17,697 --> 01:06:19,147
[chopper whirring]
1169
01:06:19,182 --> 01:06:22,116
[crowd cheering]
1170
01:06:29,709 --> 01:06:32,678
[audience clapping]
1171
01:06:32,712 --> 01:06:35,646
[The Rolling Stones singing "Brown Sugar"]
1172
01:06:42,929 --> 01:06:44,793
So what's the purpose
of doing the tour?
1173
01:06:44,828 --> 01:06:46,761
Oh, I got fed up with gardening.
1174
01:06:54,838 --> 01:06:58,048
Oh, man, the Rolling Stones
are just it, you know.
1175
01:06:58,083 --> 01:07:00,016
What do you mean?
1176
01:07:00,050 --> 01:07:02,294
They're the greatest
rock and roll band in the world.
1177
01:07:02,328 --> 01:07:05,883
♪ Gold Coast slave ship
bound for cotton fields ♪
1178
01:07:05,918 --> 01:07:09,542
♪ Sold in the market
down in New Orleans ♪
1179
01:07:09,577 --> 01:07:13,477
♪ Scarred old slaver knows
he's doin' alright ♪
1180
01:07:13,512 --> 01:07:17,516
♪ Hear him whip the women
just around midnight ♪
1181
01:07:19,863 --> 01:07:24,143
♪ Brown sugar
how come you taste so good? ♪
1182
01:07:27,250 --> 01:07:28,734
♪ Brown sugar ♪
1183
01:07:28,768 --> 01:07:31,530
♪ Just like a good boy should ♪
1184
01:07:31,564 --> 01:07:35,120
♪ Yeah yeah yeah woo ♪
1185
01:07:35,154 --> 01:07:38,054
♪ Just like a
just like a black boy should ♪
1186
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:46,614
[fireworks]
1187
01:07:55,071 --> 01:07:58,039
On a personal sense, Bill,
is it difficult
1188
01:07:58,074 --> 01:08:01,215
in... in some respects
being a Rolling Stone
1189
01:08:01,249 --> 01:08:03,044
in terms
of... of the pressure that...
1190
01:08:03,079 --> 01:08:05,115
That's difficult for a start,
but carry on.
1191
01:08:05,150 --> 01:08:06,841
In terms of the pressure
in the sense
1192
01:08:06,875 --> 01:08:09,257
that that brings on you
as an individual?
1193
01:08:15,298 --> 01:08:17,783
There's a lot of difficulties,
uh..
1194
01:08:17,817 --> 01:08:20,199
I think the main difficulty
in being a Rolling Stone
1195
01:08:20,234 --> 01:08:23,202
is to pursue your other interests.
1196
01:08:23,237 --> 01:08:26,102
[Bill Wyman singing "Monkey Grip"]
1197
01:08:26,136 --> 01:08:28,897
I did the first solo album
of a Stone in '73
1198
01:08:28,932 --> 01:08:30,658
called Monkey Grip.
1199
01:08:42,187 --> 01:08:45,638
♪ Good old monkey gripmonkey grip ♪
1200
01:08:45,673 --> 01:08:47,364
♪ Monkey grip monkey grip ♪
1201
01:08:49,021 --> 01:08:51,886
I was regarded as bass player
of the Rolling Stones.
1202
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:53,991
I was not expected to be anything else
1203
01:08:54,026 --> 01:08:55,372
or to do anything else.
1204
01:08:56,891 --> 01:08:58,720
You really had to go out there
1205
01:08:58,755 --> 01:09:00,688
and try to prove yourself.
1206
01:09:03,829 --> 01:09:05,934
You did an album back in '74
with Buddy Guy
1207
01:09:05,969 --> 01:09:07,419
uh, Buddy Guy and Junior Wells
1208
01:09:07,453 --> 01:09:11,008
who were two of the original
Chicago Blues Brothers.
1209
01:09:11,043 --> 01:09:14,288
I was just asked to get
a rhythm section together
1210
01:09:14,322 --> 01:09:16,462
to play with them
at the Montreux Jazz Festival
1211
01:09:16,497 --> 01:09:17,981
in Switzerland.
1212
01:09:20,535 --> 01:09:23,089
I got this phone call
from Claude Nobbs.
1213
01:09:23,124 --> 01:09:24,401
He said, "I'd like to invite you
1214
01:09:24,436 --> 01:09:26,023
"to the Montreux Jazz Festival
1215
01:09:26,058 --> 01:09:27,232
"because I've got Muddy Waters
1216
01:09:27,266 --> 01:09:28,612
"and he hasn't got
a band or anything.
1217
01:09:28,647 --> 01:09:29,924
"Do you think you could put
1218
01:09:29,958 --> 01:09:31,615
a little rhythm section
together?"
1219
01:09:31,650 --> 01:09:34,480
We just loaded up,
and I drove to Switzerland.
1220
01:09:35,654 --> 01:09:37,414
♪ Gonna make pretty women ♪
1221
01:09:39,761 --> 01:09:41,556
♪ Jump and shout ♪
1222
01:09:43,558 --> 01:09:45,491
♪ Then the world wanna know ♪
1223
01:09:46,975 --> 01:09:49,219
♪ What's this all about ♪
1224
01:09:49,254 --> 01:09:51,497
♪ But they'll know I'm here ♪
1225
01:09:55,536 --> 01:09:58,470
♪ Everybody knows I'm here ♪
1226
01:10:00,713 --> 01:10:03,544
Buddy Guy and Junior Wells
are sittin' on the side
1227
01:10:03,578 --> 01:10:08,031
listenin' to us and Buddy says,
"Can you be our support band?"
1228
01:10:08,065 --> 01:10:09,550
I said, "Yeah, yeah."
1229
01:10:09,584 --> 01:10:13,726
♪ The thing that I think
I would do ♪
1230
01:10:15,728 --> 01:10:19,387
♪ Ooh no one will never know ♪
1231
01:10:36,956 --> 01:10:39,165
We went there
to back up Muddy Waters.
1232
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:42,962
So I needed that bass player
to fill every missed note
1233
01:10:42,997 --> 01:10:44,481
which I still do.
1234
01:10:44,516 --> 01:10:48,278
Every note I missed, I wanted
him to... fill in for me
1235
01:10:48,313 --> 01:10:51,592
'cause I was missin'
a lot of notes back then.
1236
01:10:51,626 --> 01:10:56,286
Somebody like him can get
the word out faster than I can.
1237
01:10:56,321 --> 01:10:58,254
People still look at those guys
1238
01:10:58,288 --> 01:11:02,292
as the greatest rock and roll
band that ever played.
1239
01:11:02,327 --> 01:11:04,260
[cheering]
1240
01:11:07,090 --> 01:11:10,024
[instrumental music]
1241
01:11:13,199 --> 01:11:16,064
Glyn Johns rings up and says,
"Bill, are you interested
1242
01:11:16,099 --> 01:11:18,135
in doing a session tomorrow
for me?"
1243
01:11:18,170 --> 01:11:20,621
He says, "I need you
to play with Howlin' Wolf."
1244
01:11:20,655 --> 01:11:23,382
I went, "What? Howlin' Wolf?
1245
01:11:23,417 --> 01:11:25,073
Bloody hell, put me in.
Who else is on?"
1246
01:11:25,108 --> 01:11:26,454
And he says,
"Well, I've got Charlie."
1247
01:11:26,489 --> 01:11:28,284
And I thought, "Oh, fantastic."
1248
01:11:28,318 --> 01:11:31,632
"And Eric Clapton.
It will be the three of you."
1249
01:11:31,666 --> 01:11:34,876
I went, "Oh, God almighty.
I'd love it, yes."
1250
01:11:34,911 --> 01:11:37,189
♪ Well I gota little red rooster ♪
1251
01:11:38,501 --> 01:11:42,988
♪ Too lazy to crow for day ♪
1252
01:11:43,022 --> 01:11:45,301
And so I went down the next day
1253
01:11:45,335 --> 01:11:49,132
met up with everybody
and said hello to Wolf.
1254
01:11:49,166 --> 01:11:52,515
Bloody hell.
I was saying hello to my hero.
1255
01:11:52,549 --> 01:11:55,069
Alright, let... let everybody
get together then
1256
01:11:55,103 --> 01:11:56,346
and we'll try to make it.
1257
01:11:56,381 --> 01:11:59,176
Wolf had a voice
that, uh, nobody else had.
1258
01:11:59,211 --> 01:12:02,352
Oh, man, come on, he..
1259
01:12:02,387 --> 01:12:04,285
He ain't got nothin' to do
but count off.
1260
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,252
Alright, let's get on it.
1261
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:11,982
It was wonderful to do it
with Wolf and meet his family.
1262
01:12:12,017 --> 01:12:14,191
He was a lovely man,
he was so gentle.
1263
01:12:14,226 --> 01:12:15,538
He was this gentle giant.
1264
01:12:15,572 --> 01:12:18,886
He was terrifying to look at
and to be around.
1265
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:20,991
Those moments are there
to be caught.
1266
01:12:21,026 --> 01:12:23,891
But you're bloody lucky
most times if you catch 'em.
1267
01:12:25,824 --> 01:12:28,827
♪ Too lazy to crow for day ♪
1268
01:12:38,975 --> 01:12:40,701
We got the message from the office
1269
01:12:40,735 --> 01:12:43,289
that Mick Taylor said I've left.
1270
01:12:43,324 --> 01:12:46,016
Fuck, now we were just
gonna start recording.
1271
01:12:46,051 --> 01:12:48,260
We haven't got a fucking
guitar player, you know.
1272
01:12:50,331 --> 01:12:51,850
Tune up room session.
1273
01:12:51,884 --> 01:12:53,369
Ah!
1274
01:12:53,403 --> 01:12:54,818
[The Rolling Stones singing "Star Star"]
1275
01:12:56,441 --> 01:13:00,514
♪ Baby babyI've been so sad ♪
1276
01:13:00,548 --> 01:13:05,139
It finally came down to trying
to borrow Woody for the tour.
1277
01:13:05,173 --> 01:13:06,658
Borrowing him from the Faces.
1278
01:13:06,692 --> 01:13:08,591
♪ Where you do belong ♪
1279
01:13:08,625 --> 01:13:11,594
He was a nice catalyst
between me and Charlie
1280
01:13:11,628 --> 01:13:13,803
and Keith and Mick.
1281
01:13:13,837 --> 01:13:17,462
Ronnie was like the clown
that sort of linked it all together.
1282
01:13:17,496 --> 01:13:19,740
♪ If I ever get backto Fun City ♪
1283
01:13:19,774 --> 01:13:23,433
♪ Girl I'm gonna make youscream all night ♪
1284
01:13:24,883 --> 01:13:26,747
What is it
after so many years of touring
1285
01:13:26,781 --> 01:13:28,852
that... that keeps you going?
1286
01:13:33,063 --> 01:13:35,514
I don't know.
Just playing together.
1287
01:13:35,549 --> 01:13:38,517
All... all the memories
and all the places, the people.
1288
01:13:38,552 --> 01:13:40,485
Uh, I can't...
I can't explain it.
1289
01:13:40,519 --> 01:13:42,038
It's just good to get on the stage
1290
01:13:42,072 --> 01:13:44,316
and play in front of people
who wanna listen to you.
1291
01:13:44,350 --> 01:13:47,284
[singing "When The Whip Comes Down"]
1292
01:14:18,074 --> 01:14:21,008
♪ Mama and papa told me
I was crazy to stay ♪
1293
01:14:21,042 --> 01:14:23,597
♪ I was a fag in New York
I was gay ♪
1294
01:14:23,631 --> 01:14:28,153
In July '78,
I tripped on some cables
1295
01:14:28,187 --> 01:14:31,018
and fell about 6 or 7 feet
with my guitar
1296
01:14:31,052 --> 01:14:32,537
and was knocked out.
1297
01:14:32,571 --> 01:14:34,366
Everybody else had gone
1298
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,369
and then suddenly realized
that I was nowhere around.
1299
01:14:37,403 --> 01:14:39,613
So people came back
and just saw my silver boots
1300
01:14:39,647 --> 01:14:42,236
stickin' out
through the curtain.
1301
01:14:42,270 --> 01:14:45,550
And for the rest of that tour,
I had to play
1302
01:14:45,584 --> 01:14:48,691
with two central fingers
strapped up.
1303
01:15:01,151 --> 01:15:03,602
'81, we toured America.
1304
01:15:03,637 --> 01:15:05,570
Massive tour of America,
it was wonderful.
1305
01:15:05,604 --> 01:15:08,262
[crowd cheering]
1306
01:15:08,296 --> 01:15:11,230
[The Rolling Stones singing "Miss You"]
1307
01:15:19,031 --> 01:15:21,275
'82, we toured Europe.
1308
01:15:21,309 --> 01:15:24,899
Same thing.
Also massive and wonderful.
1309
01:15:24,934 --> 01:15:27,074
♪ I've been holding outso long ♪
1310
01:15:27,108 --> 01:15:29,386
♪ I've been sleepingall alone ♪
1311
01:15:29,421 --> 01:15:30,974
♪ Girl I miss you ♪
1312
01:15:37,912 --> 01:15:40,225
And then nothing happened.
1313
01:15:40,259 --> 01:15:41,571
Mick and Keith started arguing
1314
01:15:41,606 --> 01:15:43,918
and fighting about
God knows what.
1315
01:15:43,953 --> 01:15:46,231
We never played a gig
for seven years.
1316
01:15:46,265 --> 01:15:49,924
In the meantime, I started
to look out for myself.
1317
01:15:49,959 --> 01:15:52,893
[instrumental "Je Suis Un Rock Star"]
1318
01:16:16,848 --> 01:16:19,816
Great, let's break and, uh, have some tea
1319
01:16:19,851 --> 01:16:22,129
and then we'll come up and listen to
it again all the way through, shall we?
1320
01:16:22,163 --> 01:16:24,027
That's good.
That sounds really good to me.
1321
01:16:25,615 --> 01:16:28,860
Everybody wants to do a solo
album, but not seriously.
1322
01:16:28,894 --> 01:16:31,932
So I sat down
and, uh, started writin'.
1323
01:16:31,966 --> 01:16:33,692
I... I made up
little cassettes at home
1324
01:16:33,727 --> 01:16:36,005
on this terrible
little tape recorder I've got
1325
01:16:36,039 --> 01:16:39,491
not a ReVox
or anything sophisticated.
1326
01:16:39,525 --> 01:16:42,045
When I did "Je Suis Un Rock
Star," everything went crazy.
1327
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:44,082
♪ Je suis un rock star ♪
1328
01:16:44,116 --> 01:16:46,153
♪ Je avais un residence ♪
1329
01:16:46,187 --> 01:16:48,569
♪ Je habiter la ♪
1330
01:16:48,604 --> 01:16:50,778
♪ A la south of France ♪
1331
01:16:50,813 --> 01:16:52,918
♪ Voulez vous ♪
1332
01:16:52,953 --> 01:16:54,644
♪ Partir with me? ♪
1333
01:16:54,679 --> 01:16:58,165
♪ And come and rester la
with me in France ♪
1334
01:17:00,754 --> 01:17:03,273
Playing the single now.
1335
01:17:03,308 --> 01:17:06,794
That is Bill Wyman, "Si, Si,
Chay Suis Un Rock Star."
1336
01:17:06,829 --> 01:17:08,313
Am I saying that right, Bill?
1337
01:17:08,347 --> 01:17:11,730
"Je Suis Un Rock Star."
I am a rock star, yeah.
1338
01:17:11,765 --> 01:17:16,148
I don't believe it.
I mean, I'm not serious.
1339
01:17:16,183 --> 01:17:18,806
Currently in Europe,
your single is, uh
1340
01:17:18,841 --> 01:17:21,291
in the top ten, right?
In... In England?
1341
01:17:21,326 --> 01:17:23,673
Yeah, it's gone top 15
in every country so far
1342
01:17:23,708 --> 01:17:25,123
and I'm really pleased with it.
1343
01:17:25,157 --> 01:17:29,058
I'm very naively excited
about having a hit record
1344
01:17:29,092 --> 01:17:31,612
just like I was in '63
with the Stones.
1345
01:17:31,647 --> 01:17:33,787
It's... it's like Christmas.
1346
01:17:33,821 --> 01:17:36,686
♪ Je avais un residence ♪
1347
01:17:36,721 --> 01:17:38,274
Tell me, Bill, is it different
1348
01:17:38,308 --> 01:17:39,931
when a superstar goes to the men's room
1349
01:17:39,965 --> 01:17:42,105
than for your average ordinary person?
1350
01:17:42,140 --> 01:17:44,487
Um, yeah.
1351
01:17:44,521 --> 01:17:46,592
What's the difference?
1352
01:17:46,627 --> 01:17:48,871
- You have a super pee.
- Super pee.
1353
01:17:50,838 --> 01:17:52,771
[instrumental music]
1354
01:17:55,429 --> 01:17:57,880
Everybody thought
that our life was so romantic
1355
01:17:57,914 --> 01:17:59,675
and wonderful and exciting
and all that.
1356
01:17:59,709 --> 01:18:02,712
It was for two hours,
if you were on stage.
1357
01:18:02,747 --> 01:18:05,094
The rest of the time
was boredom.
1358
01:18:10,893 --> 01:18:14,828
It's very difficult
to keep your sanity, actually.
1359
01:18:18,038 --> 01:18:19,625
You moved away
from all your friends.
1360
01:18:19,660 --> 01:18:20,799
You were always traveling.
1361
01:18:20,834 --> 01:18:22,698
You're always on the road,
you know.
1362
01:18:22,732 --> 01:18:24,734
So it's forever changin'.
1363
01:18:24,769 --> 01:18:27,357
Nothing's kind of permanent.
1364
01:18:34,675 --> 01:18:36,677
There was no time.
1365
01:18:36,712 --> 01:18:38,541
I mean,
you looked around suddenly
1366
01:18:38,575 --> 01:18:42,614
and you hadn't seen your
cousin Peter for two years
1367
01:18:42,648 --> 01:18:45,997
and even brothers and sisters
you almost lose touch with
1368
01:18:46,031 --> 01:18:48,378
because you're... you're
livin' in a different world.
1369
01:19:01,253 --> 01:19:04,532
I got this invite to go to this event
1370
01:19:04,567 --> 01:19:07,397
and there was all these people
dancing in the front.
1371
01:19:09,710 --> 01:19:13,093
I saw this beautiful girl
with her hair up.
1372
01:19:13,127 --> 01:19:16,337
I spoke to her and found
her name was Mandy Smith.
1373
01:19:21,791 --> 01:19:24,380
It was from the heart.
It wasn't from, like, lust
1374
01:19:24,414 --> 01:19:27,555
or anything like that
which people was seeing it as.
1375
01:19:35,805 --> 01:19:38,290
[indistinct chatter]
1376
01:19:38,325 --> 01:19:41,052
Bill, were you in any way,
were you in any way hesitant
1377
01:19:41,086 --> 01:19:44,055
having been a bachelor boy
for so long
1378
01:19:44,089 --> 01:19:45,746
or free... free spirit
for so long
1379
01:19:45,781 --> 01:19:47,334
were you very hesitant about
1380
01:19:47,368 --> 01:19:49,992
taking the months
of marriage again?
1381
01:19:50,026 --> 01:19:51,545
No, I always thought she was the right girl
1382
01:19:51,579 --> 01:19:53,961
from the moment I met her,
but it was just the wrong time.
1383
01:19:53,996 --> 01:19:55,583
She was too young.
1384
01:19:55,618 --> 01:19:58,655
I thought she had to go out
and see life a bit
1385
01:19:58,690 --> 01:20:00,899
before she could make
that kind of a decision.
1386
01:20:00,934 --> 01:20:03,281
He is the rebel Rolling Stone
1387
01:20:03,315 --> 01:20:05,145
but their wedding blessing today
1388
01:20:05,179 --> 01:20:07,388
could not have been
more traditional.
1389
01:20:07,423 --> 01:20:09,494
They both said
they wouldn't feel married
1390
01:20:09,528 --> 01:20:11,841
without the formalities
of a church service.
1391
01:20:11,876 --> 01:20:15,017
And those they had,
right down to the confettis.
1392
01:20:17,157 --> 01:20:18,744
When we first met each other,
actually.
1393
01:20:18,779 --> 01:20:21,092
When, like, years ago,
we wanted to get married
1394
01:20:21,126 --> 01:20:22,956
but obviously we couldn't.
1395
01:20:22,990 --> 01:20:24,854
The things work out in the end
if they're right
1396
01:20:24,889 --> 01:20:26,856
and we always thought
it was right since the beginning
1397
01:20:26,891 --> 01:20:28,824
and, uh, here we are.
1398
01:20:33,380 --> 01:20:37,142
I was really stupid to ever
think it could possibly work.
1399
01:20:41,388 --> 01:20:44,598
Two sad marriages, really
1400
01:20:44,632 --> 01:20:47,635
and I decided it was time I
got my fucking life in order.
1401
01:20:56,748 --> 01:21:01,822
Five, four, three, two, one.
1402
01:21:01,857 --> 01:21:03,582
Fire.
1403
01:21:03,617 --> 01:21:04,963
[crowd cheering]
1404
01:21:04,998 --> 01:21:07,621
♪ Start me up ♪
1405
01:21:07,655 --> 01:21:09,174
♪ If you start me up
I'll never stop ♪
1406
01:21:09,209 --> 01:21:12,350
We hadn't played one show
from '82 to '89.
1407
01:21:12,384 --> 01:21:14,179
So it was
a coming together again
1408
01:21:14,214 --> 01:21:16,768
but I saw it as a grand finale.
1409
01:21:18,252 --> 01:21:20,116
We did five Wembley Stadiums
1410
01:21:20,151 --> 01:21:22,808
we did six Shea Stadiums
in New York.
1411
01:21:25,811 --> 01:21:27,813
We went to Japan
for the first time.
1412
01:21:27,848 --> 01:21:30,886
We played the Tokyo Dome,
45,000 people
1413
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:33,405
ten shows one after the other.
1414
01:21:33,440 --> 01:21:35,614
It was fantastic.
1415
01:21:35,649 --> 01:21:38,583
[whistling]
1416
01:21:43,450 --> 01:21:45,038
♪ I can't get no ♪
1417
01:21:47,385 --> 01:21:50,077
In Prague,
we played to 130,000 people
1418
01:21:50,112 --> 01:21:54,185
because they came from Poland
and Hungary and Czechoslovakia.
1419
01:21:54,219 --> 01:21:56,394
All in all, those three tours
1420
01:21:56,428 --> 01:21:58,775
we played 120 shows
1421
01:21:58,810 --> 01:22:02,227
seven and a quarter
million people.
1422
01:22:02,262 --> 01:22:03,988
It was extraordinary.
1423
01:22:04,022 --> 01:22:07,957
♪ Supposed to firemy imagination ♪
1424
01:22:07,992 --> 01:22:09,925
♪ I can't get no ♪
1425
01:22:11,305 --> 01:22:13,549
We finished that tour.
1426
01:22:13,583 --> 01:22:15,206
I just sat back
1427
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:18,105
and I thought this is
a nice time to end my career
1428
01:22:18,140 --> 01:22:20,797
with the Rolling Stones,
on a big high.
1429
01:22:25,423 --> 01:22:26,976
So I left.
1430
01:22:27,011 --> 01:22:28,944
[instrumental music]
1431
01:22:30,876 --> 01:22:33,086
All those 31 years with the band
1432
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:35,812
I... I absolutely loved
what we did
1433
01:22:35,847 --> 01:22:38,332
loved what we achieved.
1434
01:22:38,367 --> 01:22:43,510
But I needed to sort out my
personal life and my future.
1435
01:23:07,983 --> 01:23:10,226
There's a very happy bird
up there.
1436
01:23:10,261 --> 01:23:11,469
[chuckles]
1437
01:23:33,594 --> 01:23:36,390
[instrumental music]
1438
01:23:36,425 --> 01:23:37,667
It's fantastic.
1439
01:23:44,433 --> 01:23:46,366
They're really cute
little butterflies.
1440
01:23:48,368 --> 01:23:52,096
♪ Love is sucha wonderful thing ♪
1441
01:23:52,130 --> 01:23:55,409
♪ When you need it ♪
1442
01:23:55,444 --> 01:23:57,653
♪ Look around for it ♪
1443
01:23:57,687 --> 01:24:00,863
♪ Love is sucha wonderful thing ♪
1444
01:24:00,897 --> 01:24:02,451
Go on, you go.
1445
01:24:02,485 --> 01:24:04,556
You've got a better memory
than me on those days.
1446
01:24:04,591 --> 01:24:06,800
- Oh, yeah. Why?
- The romantic moments.
1447
01:24:06,834 --> 01:24:08,871
Yeah, why do you forget
all the romantic moments?
1448
01:24:08,905 --> 01:24:10,597
I do. I... I remember
all the other stuff.
1449
01:24:10,631 --> 01:24:12,909
You remember all the facts, but
you forget all the romantic moments.
1450
01:24:12,944 --> 01:24:14,083
Yeah.
1451
01:24:14,118 --> 01:24:16,741
Suzanne and I met in 1979
1452
01:24:16,775 --> 01:24:21,608
and she became the inspiration
for "Je Suis Un Rock Star."
1453
01:24:21,642 --> 01:24:24,542
- Can you see me in there?
- Can you say famous?
1454
01:24:24,576 --> 01:24:25,543
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
1455
01:24:25,577 --> 01:24:26,716
Hi.
1456
01:24:28,580 --> 01:24:30,410
We are cliche.
1457
01:24:30,444 --> 01:24:33,378
I was a model,
he was a musician.
1458
01:24:33,413 --> 01:24:36,140
He was with a photographer,
I was quite bored at the party
1459
01:24:36,174 --> 01:24:39,971
and I thought I should probably
go up and talk to this photographer.
1460
01:24:40,005 --> 01:24:42,870
And Bill started to chat me up
1461
01:24:42,905 --> 01:24:45,390
and I started to... to talk
about music
1462
01:24:45,425 --> 01:24:48,255
askin' him why
he was so interested in music.
1463
01:24:48,290 --> 01:24:50,913
And I felt kind of bad
that I didn't recognize him.
1464
01:24:55,366 --> 01:24:57,022
And that's Matilda.
1465
01:24:58,334 --> 01:24:59,991
We got you.
1466
01:25:00,025 --> 01:25:02,027
Can we use your paintbrushes?
1467
01:25:02,062 --> 01:25:03,995
I guess so.
It's a bit late now, isn't it?
1468
01:25:08,793 --> 01:25:11,554
Oh, we'll have to get these eggs.
1469
01:25:11,589 --> 01:25:16,111
When we decided to get
married, it was to have a family.
1470
01:25:16,145 --> 01:25:18,078
He wanted to start life
over again.
1471
01:25:19,355 --> 01:25:21,461
He just wanted to have
a normal life.
1472
01:25:21,495 --> 01:25:24,636
He wanted to be able
to walk down the street
1473
01:25:24,671 --> 01:25:27,467
and be able to go to a movie theater
1474
01:25:27,501 --> 01:25:28,882
without being bothered.
1475
01:25:28,916 --> 01:25:30,746
He just wanted to know
what that felt like.
1476
01:25:30,780 --> 01:25:32,989
Yeah, so.. Shh.
1477
01:25:33,024 --> 01:25:34,957
[laughs]
1478
01:25:41,205 --> 01:25:45,036
When we got married
and when we had the kids
1479
01:25:45,070 --> 01:25:47,797
it gave him time.
1480
01:25:47,832 --> 01:25:50,179
I think time is his foundation
1481
01:25:50,214 --> 01:25:52,112
and he wants to use
all this time
1482
01:25:52,147 --> 01:25:54,149
in a very productive way.
1483
01:25:56,979 --> 01:25:59,326
He just has this need
1484
01:25:59,361 --> 01:26:04,297
to almost relive what he experienced
1485
01:26:04,331 --> 01:26:07,231
and put it in some sort of order
1486
01:26:07,265 --> 01:26:10,717
and find out who he really was
and what he'd gone through.
1487
01:26:20,485 --> 01:26:24,179
So he started to dig out
the old boxes
1488
01:26:24,213 --> 01:26:26,215
scannin' things..
1489
01:26:27,872 --> 01:26:29,908
...and really started
to look at it
1490
01:26:29,943 --> 01:26:32,739
as a life's work ahead of him
1491
01:26:32,773 --> 01:26:35,776
that he had to complete.
1492
01:26:35,811 --> 01:26:38,883
I think when he works on the
archive, it inspires him.
1493
01:26:38,917 --> 01:26:41,126
It's almost like he has a treasure
1494
01:26:41,161 --> 01:26:43,888
and he wants to share it
with someone else.
1495
01:26:52,379 --> 01:26:55,313
[instrumental music]
1496
01:26:59,973 --> 01:27:02,078
And I decided
to play music again.
1497
01:27:02,113 --> 01:27:04,046
[blues music]
1498
01:27:07,291 --> 01:27:09,707
Forming the Rhythm Kings
enabled me to play
1499
01:27:09,741 --> 01:27:12,675
with a whole variety
of wonderful musicians
1500
01:27:12,710 --> 01:27:16,058
and dig into the roots
of... of music
1501
01:27:16,092 --> 01:27:18,854
finding a lot of early stuff
1502
01:27:18,888 --> 01:27:21,857
which had been forgotten about
and reviving it.
1503
01:27:21,891 --> 01:27:24,825
[blues music]
1504
01:27:45,052 --> 01:27:46,916
Do you mind, sir, putting that down?
1505
01:27:46,951 --> 01:27:48,608
We can't have that going on here.
1506
01:27:49,988 --> 01:27:52,922
[instrumental music]
1507
01:27:57,927 --> 01:27:59,204
[indistinct chatter]
1508
01:28:00,861 --> 01:28:05,072
The atmosphere on the bus,
it's like, uh, it's a family.
1509
01:28:05,107 --> 01:28:07,005
He likes being around players.
1510
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:09,353
He likes the jokes.
1511
01:28:09,387 --> 01:28:12,010
All his life,
he's been a working player.
1512
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:30,443
Bill is the kind of artist
who wants to do the music
1513
01:28:30,477 --> 01:28:31,892
but he doesn't necessarily
have to have
1514
01:28:31,927 --> 01:28:33,825
all the adulation for it.
1515
01:28:33,860 --> 01:28:36,518
He's playing his music
for himself.
1516
01:28:39,624 --> 01:28:43,973
You have to have that courage
to take that other road
1517
01:28:44,008 --> 01:28:45,458
to be yourself, to find yourself
1518
01:28:45,492 --> 01:28:48,184
because you can get lost
in this road to stardom.
1519
01:28:48,219 --> 01:28:50,325
I mean, you really can,
and that's all you have
1520
01:28:50,359 --> 01:28:53,224
and then maybe at the end
of your life, you're like
1521
01:28:53,258 --> 01:28:56,331
"Wow, I wish I had,
you know, taken a few moments
1522
01:28:56,365 --> 01:28:58,988
to stop and smell the roses."
1523
01:28:59,023 --> 01:29:00,818
And I don't think that
Bill will ever say that.
1524
01:29:00,852 --> 01:29:04,822
I think he has been able to not
only smell them but name them.
1525
01:29:04,856 --> 01:29:06,548
[chuckles]
1526
01:29:16,420 --> 01:29:19,181
To have gone through
that life experience
1527
01:29:19,215 --> 01:29:24,359
and still be very rooted,
really the child of the 1940s
1528
01:29:24,393 --> 01:29:26,775
I mean, you're looking
at old England with this guy.
1529
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:31,435
People only really get bothered by fame
1530
01:29:31,469 --> 01:29:34,817
or it disturbs them is
when they start acting famous.
1531
01:29:34,852 --> 01:29:37,130
I don't think Bill
ever started acting famous.
1532
01:29:42,756 --> 01:29:45,103
I can get by on things we do
1533
01:29:45,138 --> 01:29:47,865
and, uh,
some better than average
1534
01:29:47,899 --> 01:29:50,143
better than some and worse than some.
1535
01:29:50,177 --> 01:29:51,869
But, uh, you can always learn
1536
01:29:51,903 --> 01:29:55,010
and you never become as good
as you'd like to.
1537
01:29:55,044 --> 01:29:57,806
I don't think,
no matter what you play.
1538
01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:00,429
[Ray Charles singing "Georgia On My Mind"]
1539
01:30:00,464 --> 01:30:04,916
♪ Georgia Georgia ♪
1540
01:30:04,951 --> 01:30:07,402
Ray Charles was playing
at the South Bank.
1541
01:30:07,436 --> 01:30:10,335
And halfway through the concert,
Ray Charles decides to do
1542
01:30:10,370 --> 01:30:12,441
"Georgia On My Mind" on the piano
1543
01:30:12,476 --> 01:30:15,548
and he dismisses the band
and the Raylettes and everyone
1544
01:30:15,582 --> 01:30:19,310
and he's by himself
on the stage, and he starts..
1545
01:30:19,344 --> 01:30:22,865
♪ Georgia da da da Georgia ♪
1546
01:30:22,900 --> 01:30:25,454
And it was so emotional.
1547
01:30:25,489 --> 01:30:30,355
The whole audience,
4000 people in tears.
1548
01:30:30,390 --> 01:30:31,840
With Ray Charles, and I thought
1549
01:30:31,874 --> 01:30:34,601
"No one, no one
1550
01:30:34,636 --> 01:30:37,742
gets an audience like that,
you know, except him."
1551
01:30:37,777 --> 01:30:42,506
It was amazing. And, uh, anyway,
the concert finished.
1552
01:30:42,540 --> 01:30:45,094
See, I get emotional
because it was so fantastic.
1553
01:30:46,544 --> 01:30:49,271
It finished, and the people,
and my friends said
1554
01:30:49,305 --> 01:30:52,136
"Can we go backstage
and meet him?" And I went..
1555
01:30:52,170 --> 01:30:53,517
[clicks tongue]
1556
01:30:53,551 --> 01:30:55,588
I said, "Musicians, they don't
really like people
1557
01:30:55,622 --> 01:30:57,486
"coming backstage when
they've just come offstage.
1558
01:30:57,521 --> 01:30:59,695
"They're exhausted, and they're
tired, and they're sweaty
1559
01:30:59,730 --> 01:31:02,698
and they just wanna have a break
and all that."
1560
01:31:02,733 --> 01:31:04,528
So I said,
"No, I'd rather not."
1561
01:31:04,562 --> 01:31:07,151
They said, "Alright, but just
stay here until the audience go
1562
01:31:07,185 --> 01:31:10,016
and then we can go
quieter out."
1563
01:31:10,050 --> 01:31:12,639
While we were waiting there,
someone came
1564
01:31:12,674 --> 01:31:15,849
from backstage,
and they came over and said, um
1565
01:31:15,884 --> 01:31:18,921
"Mr. Charles knows you're here
and he wants to invite you."
1566
01:31:20,544 --> 01:31:23,167
Because you admire him
more than any other musician
1567
01:31:23,201 --> 01:31:24,858
don't you, yeah?
1568
01:31:24,893 --> 01:31:27,067
[chuckles]
1569
01:31:27,102 --> 01:31:28,172
[clears throat]
1570
01:31:29,725 --> 01:31:33,108
You know, it was,
it was a fantastic moment.
1571
01:31:37,699 --> 01:31:39,632
- Just wait a minute.
- It's okay.
1572
01:31:41,496 --> 01:31:43,463
Ah! Leave it a minute.
1573
01:31:44,706 --> 01:31:46,259
[clears throat]
So..
1574
01:31:47,743 --> 01:31:49,193
Yeah, he, uh..
1575
01:31:53,162 --> 01:31:56,580
We went backstage and met him.
1576
01:32:00,169 --> 01:32:03,414
He was... fantastic.
1577
01:32:05,761 --> 01:32:08,281
- I can't do it, sorry.
- Anyhow, they asked him..
1578
01:32:08,315 --> 01:32:12,837
Ray Charles asked him if he
would play on his next album and...
1579
01:32:12,872 --> 01:32:15,081
- And I chickened out.
- He just said how could I...
1580
01:32:15,115 --> 01:32:17,186
I said, "I'm not good enough."
1581
01:32:17,221 --> 01:32:19,464
That's what he.. Yeah.
1582
01:32:21,087 --> 01:32:22,985
You just, well, you didn't
say it to his face...
1583
01:32:23,020 --> 01:32:24,297
- I did.
- Did you really?
1584
01:32:24,331 --> 01:32:25,298
- Yeah.
- Oh, my God.
1585
01:32:25,332 --> 01:32:26,610
I didn't know that.
1586
01:32:26,644 --> 01:32:28,094
- Yeah.
- And what did he say?
1587
01:32:28,128 --> 01:32:31,891
He was, we... we spent half
an hour in his dressing room.
1588
01:32:31,925 --> 01:32:33,962
He's absolutely fantastic.
1589
01:32:35,446 --> 01:32:36,758
And then he said that.
1590
01:32:38,104 --> 01:32:39,657
He said, "Would you like to play
on my next album?"
1591
01:32:39,692 --> 01:32:42,971
I said, "I'm not good enough."
1592
01:32:44,731 --> 01:32:47,665
♪ Just an old sweet song ♪
1593
01:32:50,150 --> 01:32:53,637
♪ Keeps Georgia on my mind ♪
1594
01:32:53,671 --> 01:32:55,742
Almost every bass player
I've ever met
1595
01:32:55,777 --> 01:32:59,539
is always a big guy
with huge hands.
1596
01:32:59,574 --> 01:33:01,437
When I was a little boy,
you know
1597
01:33:01,472 --> 01:33:04,406
all my heroes
were the little guys.
1598
01:33:04,440 --> 01:33:06,615
I think there's something
about being the little guy
1599
01:33:06,650 --> 01:33:09,514
you always wanna prove
that you can still do it
1600
01:33:09,549 --> 01:33:11,758
against the big guys
1601
01:33:11,793 --> 01:33:13,967
and that's the drive.
1602
01:33:14,002 --> 01:33:16,418
And it's been my drive
all my life.
1603
01:33:16,452 --> 01:33:19,386
[instrumental music]
1604
01:33:21,561 --> 01:33:23,598
You make your own way,
don't you?
1605
01:33:25,945 --> 01:33:29,431
You just head in directions that
you think are good at the time.
1606
01:33:38,647 --> 01:33:40,166
Something magical happened.
1607
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:43,307
Something unusual.
Something rare.
1608
01:33:46,413 --> 01:33:49,865
Which shouldn't have really
happened to a working-class boy
1609
01:33:49,900 --> 01:33:53,213
from South London,
and it's bizarre.
1610
01:33:53,248 --> 01:33:55,181
It's a bizarre life I've had.
1611
01:34:00,186 --> 01:34:04,466
Bill Wyman.
I play bass... guitar.
1612
01:34:18,411 --> 01:34:20,378
I think we're done here,
aren't we?
1613
01:34:31,700 --> 01:34:34,634
[Rhythm Kings singing "Tell You A Secret"]
1614
01:34:49,614 --> 01:34:51,547
♪ Tell you a secret ♪
1615
01:34:51,582 --> 01:34:54,033
♪ You gotta keep it hid ♪
1616
01:34:54,067 --> 01:34:56,173
♪ Tell you about a woman ♪
1617
01:34:56,207 --> 01:34:58,485
♪ And the things she did ♪
1618
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:00,729
♪ She took my money ♪
1619
01:35:00,764 --> 01:35:02,800
♪ And she took my pride ♪
1620
01:35:02,835 --> 01:35:05,044
♪ I'm gonna tell you a secret ♪
1621
01:35:05,078 --> 01:35:07,149
♪ I got nothing to hide ♪
1622
01:35:11,222 --> 01:35:13,604
♪ Because I'm moving ondown the line ♪
1623
01:35:16,952 --> 01:35:19,748
♪ I'm gonna leavethat no-good woman ♪
1624
01:35:19,783 --> 01:35:22,786
♪ Get that devil womanoff my mind ♪
1625
01:35:25,581 --> 01:35:27,066
♪ I'll takethe moonlight special ♪
1626
01:35:27,100 --> 01:35:30,034
♪ Moonlight special
Gonna do it right ♪
1627
01:35:30,069 --> 01:35:32,209
♪ Yeah the moonlight specialMoonlight special ♪
1628
01:35:32,243 --> 01:35:34,798
♪ And travel overnight ♪
1629
01:35:34,832 --> 01:35:37,041
♪ I'm going up the country
I'm going up the country ♪
1630
01:35:37,076 --> 01:35:39,975
♪ Where I can't be found ♪
1631
01:35:40,010 --> 01:35:44,152
♪ Find a hideaway and keepmy ear close to the ground ♪
1632
01:35:47,603 --> 01:35:49,778
♪ Yes I'm moving ondown the line ♪
1633
01:35:53,161 --> 01:35:55,957
♪ I'm gonna leavethat no-good woman ♪
1634
01:35:55,991 --> 01:35:59,788
♪ Get that devil womanoff my mind ♪
1635
01:35:59,823 --> 01:36:01,928
♪ Aww tell me ♪
1636
01:36:15,424 --> 01:36:17,806
♪ She's a mean mistreater
Mean mistreater ♪
1637
01:36:17,841 --> 01:36:20,050
♪ And she treat me bad
Treat me bad ♪
1638
01:36:20,084 --> 01:36:21,154
♪ She's a robberand a cheater ♪
1639
01:36:21,189 --> 01:36:22,466
♪ Robber and a cheater ♪
1640
01:36:22,500 --> 01:36:24,709
♪ She's got me mad Got me mad ♪
1641
01:36:24,744 --> 01:36:27,022
♪ Gonna wash that woman
Gonna wash that woman ♪
1642
01:36:27,057 --> 01:36:29,059
♪ Right out of my mind
Right out of my mind ♪
1643
01:36:29,093 --> 01:36:31,820
♪ I'm gonna leave that woman
Gonna leave that woman ♪
1644
01:36:31,855 --> 01:36:34,133
♪ Leave that woman way behind ♪
1645
01:36:37,688 --> 01:36:40,070
♪ 'Cause I'm moving ondown the line ♪
1646
01:36:43,211 --> 01:36:46,007
♪ I'm gonna leavethat no-good woman ♪
1647
01:36:46,041 --> 01:36:48,941
♪ Get that devil womanoff my mind ♪
1648
01:36:51,702 --> 01:36:54,084
♪ I'm gonna tell you a secret ♪
1649
01:36:54,118 --> 01:36:56,327
♪ Gonna keep it hid ♪
1650
01:36:56,362 --> 01:36:58,157
♪ I'm gonna tell you a secret ♪
1651
01:36:58,191 --> 01:37:00,711
♪ Ooh about the thingsshe did ♪
1652
01:37:00,745 --> 01:37:02,886
♪ I'm gonna tell you a secret ♪
1653
01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:05,854
♪ Gonna keep it hid ♪
1654
01:37:05,889 --> 01:37:08,305
Shh.
1655
01:37:10,721 --> 01:37:12,896
♪ Early in the morningabout the break of day ♪
1656
01:37:15,105 --> 01:37:17,659
♪ That's whenmy baby ran away ♪
1657
01:37:19,488 --> 01:37:21,836
♪ Crying and pleadingwon't do no good ♪
1658
01:37:24,079 --> 01:37:26,323
♪ Come back babyI wish you would ♪
1659
01:37:28,463 --> 01:37:30,775
♪ I love you girlI can't help myself ♪
1660
01:37:30,810 --> 01:37:34,055
♪ Oh aah ♪
1661
01:37:35,056 --> 01:37:36,057
♪ Go ♪
1662
01:37:37,196 --> 01:37:38,197
♪ Yeah ♪
1663
01:37:39,508 --> 01:37:40,647
♪ Oh ♪
1664
01:37:43,271 --> 01:37:44,928
Goodnight.
1665
01:37:44,962 --> 01:37:47,171
Everyone, this is Rhythm Kings.
1666
01:37:47,206 --> 01:37:48,863
Goodnight to you all.
1667
01:37:48,897 --> 01:37:51,831
[audience cheering]
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