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Not to be really noticed. 16 00:01:28,329 --> 00:01:29,641 'Cause if you did the right thing 17 00:01:29,675 --> 00:01:31,229 you don't get noticed. 18 00:01:31,263 --> 00:01:33,541 And that's the way I play. Very simple. 19 00:01:35,992 --> 00:01:39,409 I am Charlie Watts. I am the drummer. 20 00:01:39,444 --> 00:01:42,723 I'm Brian Jones, the guitarist and harmonica player. 21 00:01:42,757 --> 00:01:44,863 Keith Richards, guitar. 22 00:01:44,897 --> 00:01:48,246 Mick Jagger, s.. I sing... songs. 23 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,871 Bill Wyman. I play bass... guitar. 24 00:01:52,905 --> 00:01:55,839 [The Rolling Stones singing "Paint It Black"] 25 00:02:07,610 --> 00:02:09,439 ♪ I see a red door ♪ 26 00:02:09,474 --> 00:02:13,547 ♪ And I want it painted black ♪ 27 00:02:13,581 --> 00:02:15,790 ♪ No colors anymore ♪ 28 00:02:15,825 --> 00:02:19,484 ♪ I want them to turn black ♪ 29 00:02:19,518 --> 00:02:21,865 ♪ I see the girls walk by ♪ 30 00:02:21,900 --> 00:02:24,523 ♪ Dressed in their summer clothes ♪ 31 00:02:24,558 --> 00:02:25,731 [screaming] 32 00:02:25,766 --> 00:02:27,906 ♪ I have to turn my head ♪ 33 00:02:27,940 --> 00:02:31,668 ♪ Until my darkness goes ♪ 34 00:02:31,703 --> 00:02:34,084 ♪ I see a line of cars ♪ 35 00:02:34,119 --> 00:02:37,778 ♪ And they're all painted black ♪ 36 00:02:37,812 --> 00:02:40,056 ♪ With flowers and my love ♪ 37 00:02:40,090 --> 00:02:43,956 ♪ Both never to come back ♪ 38 00:02:43,991 --> 00:02:45,993 ♪ I see people turn their heads ♪ 39 00:02:46,027 --> 00:02:49,790 ♪ And quickly look away ♪ 40 00:02:49,824 --> 00:02:51,723 ♪ Like a newborn baby ♪ 41 00:02:51,757 --> 00:02:56,072 ♪ It just happens every day ♪ 42 00:02:56,106 --> 00:02:58,212 ♪ I look inside myself ♪ 43 00:02:58,247 --> 00:03:01,974 ♪ And see my heart is black ♪ 44 00:03:02,009 --> 00:03:03,873 ♪ I see my red door ♪ 45 00:03:03,907 --> 00:03:08,049 ♪ I must have it painted black ♪ 46 00:03:08,084 --> 00:03:10,224 ♪ Maybe then I'll fade away ♪ 47 00:03:10,259 --> 00:03:14,055 ♪ And not have to face the facts ♪ 48 00:03:14,090 --> 00:03:16,161 ♪ It's not easy facin' up ♪ 49 00:03:16,196 --> 00:03:20,303 ♪ When your whole world is black ♪ 50 00:03:20,338 --> 00:03:22,236 ♪ No more will my green sea ♪ 51 00:03:22,271 --> 00:03:26,516 ♪ Go turn a deeper blue ♪ 52 00:03:26,551 --> 00:03:29,070 ♪ I could not foresee this thing ♪ 53 00:03:29,105 --> 00:03:32,660 ♪ Happening to you ♪ 54 00:03:32,695 --> 00:03:34,904 You've always been the silent Stone. 55 00:03:34,938 --> 00:03:36,112 That's been the... the image. 56 00:03:36,146 --> 00:03:38,839 The great Stone Face, I know. 57 00:03:38,873 --> 00:03:40,979 ♪ My love will laugh with me ♪ 58 00:03:41,013 --> 00:03:44,534 ♪ Before the mornin' comes ♪ 59 00:03:53,647 --> 00:03:56,581 [instrumental music] 60 00:04:49,703 --> 00:04:53,569 People always ask me why I collected things 61 00:04:53,603 --> 00:04:57,504 and why I built an archive like I did and still do. 62 00:05:04,476 --> 00:05:08,204 This is my little capsule of my life in here. 63 00:05:09,585 --> 00:05:11,621 I suppose if you looked at my bookshelves 64 00:05:11,656 --> 00:05:14,072 you would sort of understand me better. 65 00:05:17,869 --> 00:05:20,112 I always thought it was important to keep a record 66 00:05:20,147 --> 00:05:22,494 of what was going on. 67 00:05:22,529 --> 00:05:24,358 I've... I've always kept records 68 00:05:24,393 --> 00:05:25,773 or information of things 69 00:05:25,808 --> 00:05:28,604 since I was a... a little boy in the war. 70 00:05:31,434 --> 00:05:34,368 [jazz music] 71 00:05:36,646 --> 00:05:38,579 [alarm blaring] 72 00:05:45,241 --> 00:05:46,967 I remember standing out in the streets 73 00:05:47,001 --> 00:05:49,072 with all the local families 74 00:05:49,107 --> 00:05:52,386 and watching the formations of German bombers going over. 75 00:05:52,421 --> 00:05:54,181 It was just droning. 76 00:05:54,215 --> 00:05:55,734 Just this sound. 77 00:05:55,769 --> 00:05:57,357 There was a German fighter bomber 78 00:05:57,391 --> 00:05:59,980 roaring up the street towards us firing his guns. 79 00:06:00,014 --> 00:06:01,188 [gunfire] 80 00:06:01,222 --> 00:06:03,086 As it passed, I ran down the street 81 00:06:03,121 --> 00:06:05,606 to where my grandmother was waiting for me. 82 00:06:05,641 --> 00:06:07,988 She grabbed me and we ran to go down 83 00:06:08,022 --> 00:06:10,370 the back of the stairs to the air raid shelter. 84 00:06:10,404 --> 00:06:12,337 [explosion] 85 00:06:13,511 --> 00:06:15,444 [droning] 86 00:06:20,656 --> 00:06:22,451 And then the silence. 87 00:06:28,353 --> 00:06:30,597 You go back to the school, and there were two little girls 88 00:06:30,631 --> 00:06:32,219 who was in our class, they weren't there anymore. 89 00:06:32,253 --> 00:06:34,290 They got killed. 90 00:06:34,324 --> 00:06:35,740 We go to that bomb site 91 00:06:35,774 --> 00:06:38,225 where there used to be about 16 houses 92 00:06:38,259 --> 00:06:40,296 and find toys and children's books 93 00:06:40,330 --> 00:06:43,575 and then we'd get chased off by the air raid men. 94 00:06:43,610 --> 00:06:45,577 [instrumental music] 95 00:06:45,612 --> 00:06:47,614 My grandmother was like my mother. 96 00:06:47,648 --> 00:06:49,374 I mean, she taught me everything. 97 00:06:49,409 --> 00:06:50,927 She was wonderful. 98 00:06:52,308 --> 00:06:54,414 She started me collectin' things. 99 00:06:55,518 --> 00:06:57,555 All kinds of treasured little things. 100 00:07:08,186 --> 00:07:11,223 I was collectin' stuff and I made a scrapbook. 101 00:07:11,258 --> 00:07:12,708 And then I had to make another scrapbook 102 00:07:12,742 --> 00:07:14,503 and another scrapbook. 103 00:07:14,537 --> 00:07:16,746 Then I have to get a trunk. 104 00:07:16,781 --> 00:07:18,955 And it just kept goin' on and on. 105 00:07:22,890 --> 00:07:25,203 Whenever I came into contact with anything 106 00:07:25,237 --> 00:07:28,724 that I could claim was mine, I kept it. 107 00:07:30,208 --> 00:07:32,831 Throw it in the room here. Throw it in the room. 108 00:07:36,766 --> 00:07:38,250 I always wanted to be a musician. 109 00:07:38,285 --> 00:07:40,701 I always wanted to be in a band. 110 00:07:40,736 --> 00:07:44,464 And I know it was so impossible and so unlikely 111 00:07:44,498 --> 00:07:47,328 um, that I would be that I just dismissed it 112 00:07:47,363 --> 00:07:49,158 completely from my mind. 113 00:07:49,192 --> 00:07:52,748 And, um, suddenly last year.. 114 00:07:52,782 --> 00:07:55,509 ...I... I re... remembered, you know, after all that time. 115 00:07:55,544 --> 00:07:57,200 I suddenly remembered that I'd always wanted to be 116 00:07:57,235 --> 00:07:58,719 and now I was, you know. 117 00:07:58,754 --> 00:08:00,997 It didn't mean a thing to me anymore. 118 00:08:01,032 --> 00:08:02,585 It was a big, it was such a big ambition. 119 00:08:02,620 --> 00:08:05,450 It was... it was unobtainable when I was little. 120 00:08:05,485 --> 00:08:07,417 [instrumental music] 121 00:08:08,626 --> 00:08:10,041 [indistinct chatter] 122 00:08:11,629 --> 00:08:14,528 I was coming from one of the worst streets in Penge. 123 00:08:14,563 --> 00:08:17,013 It was like gang warfare in those days. 124 00:08:18,532 --> 00:08:20,120 Most of the boys in Blenheim Road 125 00:08:20,154 --> 00:08:22,640 ended up in borstals or prisons 126 00:08:22,674 --> 00:08:25,159 and a lot of them went bad. 127 00:08:25,194 --> 00:08:27,783 I was really quite ahead of everybody 128 00:08:27,817 --> 00:08:29,854 because of what my gran was teaching me. 129 00:08:29,888 --> 00:08:32,304 She did whatever she could to bring me up. 130 00:08:34,928 --> 00:08:38,138 My mom and my dad were not that kind of people. 131 00:08:39,588 --> 00:08:42,763 There was a emptiness, a blankness in 'em. 132 00:08:42,798 --> 00:08:45,110 All that working-class stuff 133 00:08:45,145 --> 00:08:47,699 that children should be seen and not heard. 134 00:08:47,734 --> 00:08:51,185 You felt pushed aside all the time. 135 00:08:51,220 --> 00:08:53,463 I never really felt like I had a home, you know. 136 00:08:53,498 --> 00:08:55,086 I really didn't. 137 00:08:56,915 --> 00:08:58,848 [school bell rings] 138 00:09:01,610 --> 00:09:04,164 I went to a grammar school, which was something special 139 00:09:04,198 --> 00:09:07,201 you know, in those days, um, coming from a slum street. 140 00:09:08,755 --> 00:09:11,758 I was accused of trying to be snobby 141 00:09:11,792 --> 00:09:15,589 by my mates in the street and also by my dad. 142 00:09:15,624 --> 00:09:20,076 He always tried to insist that I was working class 143 00:09:20,111 --> 00:09:21,526 and I should never try to change 144 00:09:21,561 --> 00:09:23,528 because that's what I was. 145 00:09:26,255 --> 00:09:27,981 My dad pulled me out of school 146 00:09:28,015 --> 00:09:29,707 and the headmaster wrote a letter to him. 147 00:09:29,741 --> 00:09:31,674 I've got it. I've got the letter. 148 00:09:39,233 --> 00:09:41,753 And not only did he pull me out of school 149 00:09:41,788 --> 00:09:43,721 he did the worst thing possible. 150 00:09:44,894 --> 00:09:47,000 Put me to work in a bettin' shop. 151 00:09:47,034 --> 00:09:50,417 He said, "You're gonna contribute to payin' for the house." 152 00:09:50,451 --> 00:09:52,937 Because he was a bricklayer, and if he had bad weather in the winter 153 00:09:52,971 --> 00:09:55,146 he couldn't work. 154 00:09:55,180 --> 00:09:58,425 I returned to live with my grandmother a number of times 155 00:09:58,459 --> 00:10:00,600 because I just couldn't get on with my dad at all. 156 00:10:04,224 --> 00:10:06,157 [indistinct chatter] 157 00:10:08,918 --> 00:10:10,955 I realized I was on me own. 158 00:10:13,682 --> 00:10:15,338 Once my grandmother died 159 00:10:15,373 --> 00:10:18,445 being loved kind of vanished, really. 160 00:10:21,828 --> 00:10:25,245 She died when I was away and I just never.. 161 00:10:26,867 --> 00:10:28,455 ...paid her back, really 162 00:10:28,489 --> 00:10:32,321 for all the love and affection she gave me 163 00:10:32,355 --> 00:10:34,323 and I feel guilty about it. 164 00:10:38,499 --> 00:10:42,331 When I was born, she picked me up in... in her arms 165 00:10:42,365 --> 00:10:45,299 and said, "This boy's gonna be world-famous." 166 00:10:45,334 --> 00:10:47,439 And everybody laughed 167 00:10:47,474 --> 00:10:50,684 including my mom, my dad, my relatives. 168 00:10:50,719 --> 00:10:53,031 They all thought it was like a big joke. 169 00:10:58,243 --> 00:11:00,349 [crowd cheering] 170 00:11:00,383 --> 00:11:01,419 Yeah. 171 00:11:02,869 --> 00:11:05,803 [The Rolling Stones singing "Not Fade Away"] 172 00:11:14,639 --> 00:11:16,952 ♪ I wanna tell you how it's gonna be ♪ 173 00:11:18,850 --> 00:11:21,128 ♪ You're gonna give your love to me ♪ 174 00:11:23,337 --> 00:11:26,237 Give it up for the Rolling Stones. 175 00:11:26,271 --> 00:11:27,548 [singing "Around And Around"] 176 00:11:27,583 --> 00:11:28,860 ♪ It sounds so sweet ♪ 177 00:11:28,895 --> 00:11:31,863 The audience just stood and sort of stared at us 178 00:11:31,898 --> 00:11:34,107 because we didn't have no uniforms 179 00:11:34,141 --> 00:11:36,143 we didn't have any matching guitars 180 00:11:36,178 --> 00:11:38,698 and we played this blues and R&B 181 00:11:38,732 --> 00:11:41,355 which was alien to them. 182 00:11:41,390 --> 00:11:43,703 And then this crowd goes fucking apeshit. 183 00:11:45,532 --> 00:11:47,845 ♪ Going round and round ♪ 184 00:11:47,879 --> 00:11:50,364 ♪ Yeah reelin' and a rockin' ♪ 185 00:11:50,399 --> 00:11:52,815 ♪ What a crazy sound ♪ 186 00:11:52,850 --> 00:11:55,266 ♪ And they never stopped rockin' ♪ 187 00:11:55,300 --> 00:11:57,509 ♪ Till the moon went down ♪ 188 00:12:03,170 --> 00:12:06,104 [cheering] 189 00:12:25,710 --> 00:12:28,540 We were just so different from any other band. 190 00:12:28,575 --> 00:12:30,301 We played different music to them. 191 00:12:30,335 --> 00:12:33,166 We played in a different way. We played it better than them. 192 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,030 Keith had all the licks off. 193 00:12:35,064 --> 00:12:36,376 And then you got Mick up front 194 00:12:36,410 --> 00:12:38,619 who's just all over the bloody stage 195 00:12:38,654 --> 00:12:40,932 with the maracas and the tambourine and all that. 196 00:12:40,967 --> 00:12:43,072 The greatest front man there's ever been. 197 00:12:43,107 --> 00:12:46,041 [cheering] 198 00:12:47,697 --> 00:12:49,147 It was a special band 199 00:12:49,182 --> 00:12:50,942 and we could blow anyone off the stage 200 00:12:50,977 --> 00:12:52,910 no matter who it was. 201 00:12:52,944 --> 00:12:55,878 [cheering] 202 00:13:00,227 --> 00:13:02,195 [instrumental music] 203 00:13:02,229 --> 00:13:05,336 Bill had a very individual style 204 00:13:05,370 --> 00:13:08,546 that wasn't particularly hip or cool 205 00:13:08,580 --> 00:13:12,481 but he was his own person. 206 00:13:12,515 --> 00:13:15,380 He had a tremendous presence 207 00:13:15,415 --> 00:13:18,521 but he didn't impose himself on you. 208 00:13:18,556 --> 00:13:20,627 Stone Face, I think people called him 209 00:13:20,661 --> 00:13:23,078 or referred to him as Stone Face. 210 00:13:23,112 --> 00:13:24,942 He was rake thin 211 00:13:24,976 --> 00:13:28,635 and when he smiled, which wasn't that frequently 212 00:13:28,669 --> 00:13:30,361 his whole face lit up 213 00:13:30,395 --> 00:13:32,812 in a sort of great crease of a smile. 214 00:13:32,846 --> 00:13:37,402 And he always had an air of world-weariness. 215 00:13:39,646 --> 00:13:42,822 I remember seeing Bill when we first rehearsed 216 00:13:42,856 --> 00:13:44,478 up the road in a pub. 217 00:13:44,513 --> 00:13:47,654 You know, he'd had a different sort of upbringing. 218 00:13:47,688 --> 00:13:52,210 He's locked into an era that was before us, really. 219 00:13:52,245 --> 00:13:53,522 So when we got on the road 220 00:13:53,556 --> 00:13:56,076 I think it was like liberation for him. 221 00:14:00,563 --> 00:14:03,325 I went into the military in '55. 222 00:14:03,359 --> 00:14:05,879 Thank God I got the strength when I was in the military 223 00:14:05,914 --> 00:14:07,570 to be able to stand up for myself 224 00:14:07,605 --> 00:14:09,745 and fight for my beliefs. 225 00:14:09,779 --> 00:14:11,298 Before that, I couldn't. 226 00:14:11,333 --> 00:14:13,438 [droning] 227 00:14:13,473 --> 00:14:16,407 [instrumental music] 228 00:14:21,930 --> 00:14:23,863 [indistinct chatter] 229 00:14:27,004 --> 00:14:28,591 I was posted to Germany. 230 00:14:28,626 --> 00:14:31,042 When I got there, I met this great guy 231 00:14:31,077 --> 00:14:33,217 who was a genius footballer. 232 00:14:33,251 --> 00:14:35,944 His name was Gordon Lee Wyman. 233 00:14:35,978 --> 00:14:37,600 He was bit of a rebel. 234 00:14:37,635 --> 00:14:39,464 All his clothes were scruffy. 235 00:14:39,499 --> 00:14:41,259 And I kind of really liked him for that 236 00:14:41,294 --> 00:14:43,503 because we all had to dress tidy and neat 237 00:14:43,537 --> 00:14:45,194 otherwise we got a bollocking. 238 00:14:45,229 --> 00:14:47,162 But he seemed to get away with it. 239 00:14:50,337 --> 00:14:52,270 [airplane droning] 240 00:14:54,721 --> 00:14:56,999 He used to be in the refuelin' trucks 241 00:14:57,034 --> 00:15:00,037 and he'd open the top when it was being refueled. 242 00:15:00,071 --> 00:15:01,417 He'd be smokin' a cigarette 243 00:15:01,452 --> 00:15:03,212 and he'd just throw the cigarette in the fuel. 244 00:15:03,247 --> 00:15:05,111 [chuckles] He did insane things. 245 00:15:05,145 --> 00:15:07,941 When he finished his fag, he just dropped it in there. 246 00:15:07,976 --> 00:15:09,909 [intense music] 247 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,163 He was like the first person I kind of idolized 248 00:15:23,198 --> 00:15:24,613 if you like. 249 00:15:24,647 --> 00:15:28,513 He did things his way, and I related to all that. 250 00:15:33,070 --> 00:15:36,245 At the beginning of the Stones, I decided to change my name 251 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,903 because I'd never liked my name. 252 00:15:38,938 --> 00:15:43,459 I officially changed my name in '64 to Bill Wyman. 253 00:15:43,494 --> 00:15:46,359 I felt such a relief havin' a different name 254 00:15:46,393 --> 00:15:48,464 and it just took a cloud off my head. 255 00:15:49,776 --> 00:15:51,985 My dad hated me for it. 256 00:15:52,020 --> 00:15:54,988 He thought I was trying to get away from my roots 257 00:15:55,023 --> 00:15:56,886 which I kind of was in a way. 258 00:15:56,921 --> 00:15:58,992 I mean, it just changed my life. 259 00:16:01,857 --> 00:16:05,965 I bought a fleck jacket just to be different, really. 260 00:16:08,484 --> 00:16:10,452 I'd have a Tony Curtis haircut 261 00:16:10,486 --> 00:16:13,420 hanging down the center there, you know, a curly bit. 262 00:16:13,455 --> 00:16:15,802 People used to stare at me in the street 263 00:16:15,836 --> 00:16:17,907 and I was proud of that. 264 00:16:17,942 --> 00:16:19,979 I was being an odd one out. 265 00:16:22,464 --> 00:16:24,397 [radio static] 266 00:16:27,814 --> 00:16:29,954 [indistinct chatter on radio] 267 00:16:29,989 --> 00:16:33,716 At the barracks, the guys in our room all clubbed together. 268 00:16:33,751 --> 00:16:37,893 We bought a radio in town, in Oldenburg, for our room 269 00:16:37,927 --> 00:16:40,861 and at last we were able to listen to whatever we wanted 270 00:16:40,896 --> 00:16:44,382 mostly through American Forces Radio, AFN. 271 00:16:44,417 --> 00:16:46,315 We'd wake up at 5:30 in the morning 272 00:16:46,350 --> 00:16:48,421 and listen to "Stickbuddy Jamboree" 273 00:16:48,455 --> 00:16:51,355 this fantastic country program. 274 00:16:51,389 --> 00:16:54,082 A very big, big, happy howdy to you out there, friends and neighbors. 275 00:16:54,116 --> 00:16:56,049 This is your old country buddy Wagon Wheel Willie 276 00:16:56,084 --> 00:16:58,293 comin' at you on "Stickbuddy Jamboree." 277 00:16:58,327 --> 00:17:01,227 Sit back and relax and enjoy 25 minutes 278 00:17:01,261 --> 00:17:04,920 of good country and western recorded music. 279 00:17:04,954 --> 00:17:06,887 [country music on radio] 280 00:17:10,236 --> 00:17:12,238 Then, of course, shortly after that 281 00:17:12,272 --> 00:17:14,067 we heard the beginnings of rock and roll. 282 00:17:14,102 --> 00:17:16,035 [singing "Mystery Train"] 283 00:17:20,487 --> 00:17:21,868 ♪ Train I ride ♪ 284 00:17:21,902 --> 00:17:24,146 I could go to the American PSI shops 285 00:17:24,181 --> 00:17:27,632 and buy the first little 45 records. 286 00:17:30,635 --> 00:17:32,568 ♪ Train I ride ♪ 287 00:17:32,603 --> 00:17:33,914 It was just like brand-new music. 288 00:17:33,949 --> 00:17:35,192 It just blew me away. 289 00:17:35,226 --> 00:17:36,917 And I had to be involved in it. 290 00:17:36,952 --> 00:17:38,678 I had to. 291 00:17:38,712 --> 00:17:41,715 I went straight down into the Oldenburg town 292 00:17:41,750 --> 00:17:44,373 and I bought my first acoustic guitar. 293 00:17:47,169 --> 00:17:49,792 When I came out of the military on leave 294 00:17:49,827 --> 00:17:52,105 I went to the cinema, the, uh, Regal Cinema 295 00:17:52,140 --> 00:17:55,074 in Beckenham with a couple of friends 296 00:17:55,108 --> 00:17:57,283 and we saw this film called "Rock, Rock, Rock!" 297 00:17:59,871 --> 00:18:02,115 About halfway through, I saw this trio 298 00:18:02,150 --> 00:18:04,462 called Johnny Burnette Trio who did this.. 299 00:18:04,497 --> 00:18:06,085 ♪ Lonesome train ♪ 300 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:07,534 ...on a lonesome track. 301 00:18:07,569 --> 00:18:09,329 ♪ Tum tum lonesome train ♪ 302 00:18:09,364 --> 00:18:10,744 A bit like early Elvis. 303 00:18:10,779 --> 00:18:12,021 ♪ I'm coming back ♪ 304 00:18:12,056 --> 00:18:13,057 With all this, you know 305 00:18:13,092 --> 00:18:14,093 his mouth a bit twisted 306 00:18:14,127 --> 00:18:15,335 like Elvis and all that. 307 00:18:15,370 --> 00:18:17,889 I thought, "Oh, they're great," you know. 308 00:18:17,924 --> 00:18:20,306 About ten minutes further into the film 309 00:18:20,340 --> 00:18:23,688 there's this black guy with a little mustache 310 00:18:23,723 --> 00:18:25,207 in a white suit 311 00:18:25,242 --> 00:18:28,969 with a little Gibson Les Paul guitar. 312 00:18:29,004 --> 00:18:33,457 ♪ Do do do la da da do do da la da da da ♪ 313 00:18:33,491 --> 00:18:34,941 Chuck Berry. 314 00:18:34,975 --> 00:18:36,908 [singing "You Can't Catch Me"] 315 00:18:38,669 --> 00:18:40,360 And that just blew my mind. 316 00:18:40,395 --> 00:18:42,051 My hair went on the back of my neck. 317 00:18:42,086 --> 00:18:45,607 I thought, "Fuckin' hell." It just blew me away. 318 00:18:45,641 --> 00:18:48,161 This guy was doin' the duck walk across the stage 319 00:18:48,196 --> 00:18:50,681 and shakin' his legs and shudderin'. 320 00:18:50,715 --> 00:18:52,096 And the audience are laughing. 321 00:18:52,131 --> 00:18:53,994 They thought it was a comedy show or something. 322 00:18:54,029 --> 00:18:55,168 And I'm sitting there thinking 323 00:18:55,203 --> 00:18:56,859 "This is the most incredible thing 324 00:18:56,894 --> 00:18:58,137 that's ever happened to me." 325 00:18:58,171 --> 00:18:59,724 It was then that I thought 326 00:18:59,759 --> 00:19:01,554 "Well, I've got to form a band." 327 00:19:01,588 --> 00:19:03,935 ♪ Get too close you know I'm gone ♪ 328 00:19:03,970 --> 00:19:07,007 ♪ Like a cool breeze ♪ 329 00:19:07,042 --> 00:19:08,699 I'm out of the military 330 00:19:08,733 --> 00:19:11,184 and that's when the Cliftons came into existence. 331 00:19:11,219 --> 00:19:12,910 ♪ Wee wee hours ♪ 332 00:19:12,944 --> 00:19:15,568 We used to sit in my kitchen with a little tape recorder 333 00:19:15,602 --> 00:19:17,328 and just learn all these basic songs. 334 00:19:17,363 --> 00:19:20,814 ♪ Here come a flat-top he was moving up with me ♪ 335 00:19:20,849 --> 00:19:23,576 We used to play all the hits of the day. 336 00:19:23,610 --> 00:19:25,992 Um, for that, we used to get a pound each 337 00:19:26,026 --> 00:19:27,994 and a sandwich and a beer. 338 00:19:35,035 --> 00:19:37,106 How long did it take you to learn to play? 339 00:19:37,141 --> 00:19:38,625 It was about... 340 00:19:38,660 --> 00:19:39,902 [laughter] 341 00:19:39,937 --> 00:19:41,180 Now give him a chance, please. 342 00:19:41,214 --> 00:19:42,595 You can ask these questions, everybody sends 343 00:19:42,629 --> 00:19:44,183 somebody else up. No one wants to say anything. 344 00:19:44,217 --> 00:19:47,393 I just messed about with a guitar at home. 345 00:19:47,427 --> 00:19:50,706 About three years ago. Three and a half years ago. 346 00:19:50,741 --> 00:19:53,916 And eventually formed a group 347 00:19:53,951 --> 00:19:57,057 and I had to play bass 'cause nobody else did, did they? 348 00:19:57,092 --> 00:19:58,266 - And then I... - Why do you play bass? 349 00:19:58,300 --> 00:19:59,474 Nobody else did. 350 00:19:59,508 --> 00:20:00,889 Yeah, because there's more guitarists 351 00:20:00,923 --> 00:20:02,856 and less bass players. 352 00:20:02,891 --> 00:20:06,205 I went to my sister's house for the weekend 353 00:20:06,239 --> 00:20:08,310 and we went to a dance. 354 00:20:08,345 --> 00:20:09,794 And I heard the bass. 355 00:20:09,829 --> 00:20:11,210 [blues music] 356 00:20:12,728 --> 00:20:15,110 I heard the real bass guitar for the first time. 357 00:20:17,595 --> 00:20:21,461 The low sound just filled you up right down there, you know 358 00:20:21,496 --> 00:20:23,705 when everybody else was playing up high. 359 00:20:23,739 --> 00:20:26,017 And I thought, "God, that's what's missing 360 00:20:26,052 --> 00:20:27,433 in the Cliftons." 361 00:20:30,436 --> 00:20:32,472 And I asked them all. I said, "Steve, you wanna play bass?" 362 00:20:32,507 --> 00:20:35,889 "No." "Cliff, do you wanna play bass?" "No." 363 00:20:35,924 --> 00:20:38,167 Fucking hell, I suppose I better do it then. 364 00:20:44,208 --> 00:20:45,451 He didn't have a bass guitar 365 00:20:45,485 --> 00:20:47,107 because he couldn't afford to buy one. 366 00:20:47,142 --> 00:20:50,145 What he did was detune two or three of the top strings 367 00:20:50,179 --> 00:20:52,251 of an ordinary six-string and he made.. 368 00:20:52,285 --> 00:20:54,149 What he made of it was brilliant, you know. 369 00:20:54,183 --> 00:20:55,840 And I think we may have all clubbed together 370 00:20:55,875 --> 00:20:58,118 to buy the bass guitar. 371 00:20:58,153 --> 00:21:00,776 We bought it and it was the most ugly, horrible thing. 372 00:21:00,811 --> 00:21:04,539 I turned this bass over, got some chalk 373 00:21:04,573 --> 00:21:06,437 and redrew the body. 374 00:21:06,472 --> 00:21:08,301 And I went down the road to my friend 375 00:21:08,336 --> 00:21:10,096 who had a fret work machine. 376 00:21:10,130 --> 00:21:11,442 I said, "I want you to cut all this out." 377 00:21:11,477 --> 00:21:13,064 He went, "Are you serious?" 378 00:21:13,099 --> 00:21:14,721 I said "Yes, cut it out." 379 00:21:14,756 --> 00:21:16,344 [whirring] 380 00:21:16,378 --> 00:21:18,622 Took it home, put all new electrics in it. 381 00:21:18,656 --> 00:21:20,520 [whirring] 382 00:21:20,555 --> 00:21:23,558 I put another pickup in, a Baldwin pickup. 383 00:21:23,592 --> 00:21:27,078 Stripped it all down, took all the frets out. 384 00:21:27,113 --> 00:21:30,530 Then I had to buy new strings, these framer strings 385 00:21:30,565 --> 00:21:32,705 which were really springy and soft. 386 00:21:34,120 --> 00:21:36,087 And I bought this amplifier. 387 00:21:36,122 --> 00:21:37,641 The fucking thing, every time I touched it 388 00:21:37,675 --> 00:21:39,090 I'd get electrocuted 389 00:21:39,125 --> 00:21:40,609 because it didn't have an earth or anything. 390 00:21:40,644 --> 00:21:41,852 I'd just go, "Ah!" 391 00:21:41,886 --> 00:21:44,441 I bought an 18-inch Goodman speaker 392 00:21:44,475 --> 00:21:46,270 the biggest speaker there was. 393 00:21:46,305 --> 00:21:49,894 And when I played this bass, Jesus, the sound. 394 00:21:49,929 --> 00:21:52,656 [imitates bass guitar] 395 00:21:52,690 --> 00:21:54,692 I mean, it was amazing. 396 00:21:54,727 --> 00:21:58,040 Without knowing it, I invented the fretless bass. 397 00:22:01,285 --> 00:22:04,288 [Booker T & the MG's singing "Green Onions"] 398 00:22:11,295 --> 00:22:14,885 I heard "Green Onions" by Booker T & the MG's. 399 00:22:14,919 --> 00:22:16,783 ♪ Boom doom pa doom doom ♪ 400 00:22:16,818 --> 00:22:19,372 ♪ Doom doom pa doom pa doom doom ♪ 401 00:22:19,407 --> 00:22:21,270 And I thought, "That bass is great." 402 00:22:21,305 --> 00:22:22,720 And I started to focus 403 00:22:22,755 --> 00:22:26,552 on trying to play bass like Duck Dunn. 404 00:22:26,586 --> 00:22:28,899 That's who I learned my basics from. 405 00:22:28,933 --> 00:22:31,315 The way to play, to leave space 406 00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:33,317 don't be busy, don't fill it up. 407 00:22:33,352 --> 00:22:34,663 You're not a fucking lead guitarist 408 00:22:34,698 --> 00:22:36,147 you're a bass player. 409 00:22:36,182 --> 00:22:38,184 Focus on what the drummer's doin' 410 00:22:38,218 --> 00:22:41,221 and play exactly with the drums 411 00:22:41,256 --> 00:22:43,810 so that you've got a strong foundation there 412 00:22:43,845 --> 00:22:47,089 that's solid, that everybody else can build upon. 413 00:22:47,124 --> 00:22:51,818 ♪ Can you handle it? Handle it ♪ 414 00:22:51,853 --> 00:22:54,131 ♪ Can you handle it ♪ 415 00:22:54,165 --> 00:22:56,098 [instrumental music] 416 00:22:58,273 --> 00:23:01,414 I'd done gigs with some of the lesser-known 417 00:23:01,449 --> 00:23:03,105 musicians of the time. 418 00:23:03,140 --> 00:23:04,590 I did have a bit of experience like that 419 00:23:04,624 --> 00:23:07,593 but it was all rock and roll. 420 00:23:07,627 --> 00:23:09,526 The stuff that we were all listening to 421 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,425 they weren't many bass players on any of those records. 422 00:23:12,460 --> 00:23:14,323 And I remember seeing Bill playing and thinking 423 00:23:14,358 --> 00:23:17,430 "What, a bass player?" And he looked like a Teddy Boy. 424 00:23:17,465 --> 00:23:19,363 I thought, "Where's he come from?" 425 00:23:19,398 --> 00:23:21,400 You know, his bass playing was fantastic. 426 00:23:21,434 --> 00:23:23,436 Really unique. 427 00:23:23,471 --> 00:23:26,439 Forming the Cliftons was a breath of fresh air. 428 00:23:26,474 --> 00:23:29,684 I'd fallen in love with playing music. 429 00:23:29,718 --> 00:23:31,893 We were doing all these gigs and working hard 430 00:23:31,927 --> 00:23:35,517 but the trouble was those shite promoters. 431 00:23:35,552 --> 00:23:38,244 They owed us so much money, they just wouldn't pay us. 432 00:23:38,278 --> 00:23:41,627 And so the bottom started to fall out of the band. 433 00:23:41,661 --> 00:23:44,595 Tony Chapman answered an ad 434 00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:46,873 for a drummer with an R&B band. 435 00:23:49,911 --> 00:23:53,190 That night we went back to Mick's parents' house 436 00:23:53,224 --> 00:23:55,295 and they played Jimmy Reid and various things 437 00:23:55,330 --> 00:23:56,538 that I'd never heard. 438 00:23:56,573 --> 00:23:58,022 I think they quite liked the way I played 439 00:23:58,057 --> 00:23:59,265 because I could play the shuffle beat 440 00:23:59,299 --> 00:24:00,818 which most people couldn't. 441 00:24:00,853 --> 00:24:03,442 And then that's how I got to play with the Stones, really. 442 00:24:03,476 --> 00:24:05,996 Tony came to me and said, "Bass player's left. 443 00:24:06,030 --> 00:24:08,377 Do you wanna come up to rehearsal on Friday?" 444 00:24:11,864 --> 00:24:15,315 So I went up with him and I had my big bass cabinet 445 00:24:15,350 --> 00:24:17,801 in the boot of his car stickin' out. 446 00:24:17,835 --> 00:24:19,941 I took my homemade bass 447 00:24:19,975 --> 00:24:22,426 and I went to the Weatherby Arms in Chelsea. 448 00:24:26,016 --> 00:24:28,674 I went in, and there they were, Ian Stewart. 449 00:24:28,708 --> 00:24:30,745 He was nice when I went in there. 450 00:24:30,779 --> 00:24:31,918 [indistinct chatter] 451 00:24:31,953 --> 00:24:34,749 Mick was fairly sociable. 452 00:24:34,783 --> 00:24:36,751 [instrumental music] 453 00:24:36,785 --> 00:24:38,718 And Brian and Keith just didn't speak to me. 454 00:24:38,753 --> 00:24:41,169 They were up at the bar, and they were really beatnik-y. 455 00:24:43,343 --> 00:24:44,828 I bought them all a round of drinks 456 00:24:44,862 --> 00:24:46,277 and then they got a bit more friendly 457 00:24:46,312 --> 00:24:48,279 and... and passed the cigarettes round. 458 00:24:48,314 --> 00:24:50,247 So, then they were sociable, you know. 459 00:24:50,281 --> 00:24:52,421 They didn't have any money or anything. 460 00:24:52,456 --> 00:24:54,113 They asked me what music I liked 461 00:24:54,147 --> 00:24:56,702 and what music I played. 462 00:24:56,736 --> 00:25:00,429 So I said, "Well, Chuck Berry," and they went, "Great." 463 00:25:00,464 --> 00:25:02,466 "Jerry Lee Lewis." "No!" 464 00:25:02,501 --> 00:25:04,744 "Eddie Cochrane." "No!" 465 00:25:04,779 --> 00:25:07,540 All the rock and rollers, they didn't like any of them. 466 00:25:07,575 --> 00:25:10,474 They said, "We're a blues band, we're not a rock and roll band. 467 00:25:10,509 --> 00:25:11,682 We don't play that shit." 468 00:25:11,717 --> 00:25:13,650 [The Rolling Stones singing "Mona"] 469 00:25:15,928 --> 00:25:17,930 They'd already spoken to Charlie Watts 470 00:25:17,964 --> 00:25:21,830 so they fired Tony, and Charlie said he'd join. 471 00:25:21,865 --> 00:25:24,557 I kind of slotted in alright. 472 00:25:24,592 --> 00:25:26,145 ♪ I said yeah ♪ 473 00:25:26,179 --> 00:25:29,217 ♪ Yeah yeah yeah Mona ♪ 474 00:25:29,251 --> 00:25:33,566 ♪ Oh Mona ♪ 475 00:25:33,601 --> 00:25:35,050 ♪ I tell ya Mona what I wanna do ♪ 476 00:25:35,085 --> 00:25:36,535 I was a bit of a rock and roller 477 00:25:36,569 --> 00:25:38,398 more than anything else 478 00:25:38,433 --> 00:25:42,230 and found that they were playing pure blues. 479 00:25:42,264 --> 00:25:44,094 ♪ Man ♪ 480 00:25:44,128 --> 00:25:46,890 I mean, really slow, slow blues. 481 00:25:46,924 --> 00:25:50,031 ♪ You know I didn't enjoy things that kings and queens ♪ 482 00:25:50,065 --> 00:25:51,929 You couldn't buy a bloody blues record 483 00:25:51,964 --> 00:25:53,517 to save your life in those days. 484 00:25:53,552 --> 00:25:56,658 It was unheard of in England. 485 00:25:56,693 --> 00:25:58,660 I remember saying to them at that rehearsal 486 00:25:58,695 --> 00:26:01,767 I said, "We can't play 12-bar blues all fucking night." 487 00:26:01,801 --> 00:26:03,596 Which I was totally wrong about 488 00:26:03,631 --> 00:26:06,254 because we ended up doing exactly that. 489 00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:11,811 Within two months, we were brilliant 490 00:26:11,846 --> 00:26:13,641 and sounded fantastic. 491 00:26:13,675 --> 00:26:18,473 And in 1963, we played about 340 shows. 492 00:26:18,507 --> 00:26:21,441 We traveled everywhere in Stu's van. 493 00:26:21,476 --> 00:26:23,478 He was a fantastic blues piano player 494 00:26:23,512 --> 00:26:27,482 and he looked after us on the road for 22 years. 495 00:26:27,516 --> 00:26:29,553 He was like the sixth Stone, really. 496 00:26:31,417 --> 00:26:33,281 Stu would turn around and say 497 00:26:33,315 --> 00:26:36,525 "Okay, you three-chord wonders, you're on." 498 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,873 ♪ Let's go fishin' in the crawdad hole ♪ 499 00:26:40,771 --> 00:26:42,842 ♪ One two three four five and nine ♪ 500 00:26:44,810 --> 00:26:46,225 I couldn't survive working 501 00:26:46,259 --> 00:26:48,676 because we started to get gigs out of London. 502 00:26:48,710 --> 00:26:51,195 ♪ I said hey crawdaddy ♪ 503 00:26:52,990 --> 00:26:55,303 ♪ I said hey crawdaddy ♪ 504 00:26:56,684 --> 00:26:59,376 ♪ I said hey crawdaddy ♪ 505 00:27:01,171 --> 00:27:03,449 ♪ Hey crawdaddy ♪ 506 00:27:05,037 --> 00:27:07,246 I told my parents and friends 507 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,559 that I was gonna give up work and go professional. 508 00:27:10,594 --> 00:27:12,389 Every single person I knew said 509 00:27:12,423 --> 00:27:15,219 "Don't do it. Don't take the risk." 510 00:27:15,254 --> 00:27:18,533 And I thought, "Fuck it, I'm gonna do it." 511 00:27:23,365 --> 00:27:25,195 Top British rhythm and blues group 512 00:27:25,229 --> 00:27:28,474 and the best new group, the Rolling Stones. 513 00:27:28,508 --> 00:27:29,924 [audience cheering] 514 00:27:29,958 --> 00:27:31,063 I didn't think of it 515 00:27:31,097 --> 00:27:33,548 as progressin' anywhere really big. 516 00:27:33,582 --> 00:27:36,447 It was the most excitin' thing in my life. 517 00:27:36,482 --> 00:27:39,968 The sound we had, no one compared 518 00:27:40,003 --> 00:27:41,936 with that sound in those days, no one. 519 00:27:46,561 --> 00:27:48,597 I started to collect the little bits and pieces 520 00:27:48,632 --> 00:27:49,978 as we traveled. 521 00:27:50,013 --> 00:27:53,154 If I was very lucky, I grabbed a little poster 522 00:27:53,188 --> 00:27:55,984 and someone would give me a photo they had taken. 523 00:27:57,745 --> 00:28:02,094 And it just slowly escalated into this mountain. 524 00:28:06,374 --> 00:28:08,548 You know, it is all a bit of a haze to me. 525 00:28:08,583 --> 00:28:11,482 I mean, if I wanna know what I did for certain in those years 526 00:28:11,517 --> 00:28:13,761 I have to ask Bill Wyman, you know. 527 00:28:13,795 --> 00:28:16,764 - Who keeps the archives. - Yeah. 528 00:28:16,798 --> 00:28:21,561 Bill was the first guy to have a computer. 529 00:28:21,596 --> 00:28:24,426 He'd have his videos and they'd be all stacked up. 530 00:28:24,461 --> 00:28:26,808 I bet he's probably got them even now. 531 00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:31,330 He had movie cameras before everybody. 532 00:28:34,057 --> 00:28:36,680 I took reels of film. 533 00:28:36,715 --> 00:28:39,338 Twenty years of home movies on the road. 534 00:28:54,871 --> 00:28:59,185 The biggest ambition we had was to play in a club 535 00:28:59,220 --> 00:29:01,843 and have people like what we were playin'. 536 00:29:01,878 --> 00:29:04,950 We never dreamed about making a record. 537 00:29:04,984 --> 00:29:07,262 It never crossed our minds that we would ever 538 00:29:07,297 --> 00:29:09,506 be on TV or radio. 539 00:29:09,540 --> 00:29:13,096 Pie in the sky to think we might go abroad sometime 540 00:29:13,130 --> 00:29:16,444 because we were playin' uncommercial music. 541 00:29:17,721 --> 00:29:19,378 We were playin' pure blues 542 00:29:19,412 --> 00:29:22,277 and the only place we could play it was in jazz clubs. 543 00:29:22,312 --> 00:29:25,418 Suddenly, we got a followin' and it blossomed from there. 544 00:29:27,144 --> 00:29:30,182 Glyn Johns, who was in that band, The Presidents 545 00:29:30,216 --> 00:29:33,910 said to us, "I work at IBC Record Studios. 546 00:29:33,944 --> 00:29:36,705 I can get you three hours recording time." 547 00:29:36,740 --> 00:29:39,743 We went, "What? Make a record?" 548 00:29:41,883 --> 00:29:43,264 I'd seen the Rolling Stones 549 00:29:43,298 --> 00:29:44,817 and I thought they were really good 550 00:29:44,852 --> 00:29:45,887 and I thought, "There's definitely 551 00:29:45,922 --> 00:29:47,302 a commercial opportunity here." 552 00:29:47,337 --> 00:29:49,201 So I approached the studio owners and said 553 00:29:49,235 --> 00:29:51,755 "Can I bring these people in and see what we can do?" 554 00:29:51,790 --> 00:29:53,377 And they said, "Yes, on the condition that you have 555 00:29:53,412 --> 00:29:54,931 "absolutely nothing to do with getting the deal. 556 00:29:54,965 --> 00:29:56,622 We'll do the business." 557 00:29:56,656 --> 00:29:59,590 [instrumental music] 558 00:30:05,631 --> 00:30:07,081 I took the Stones in 559 00:30:07,115 --> 00:30:09,221 and that was their first recording session. 560 00:30:09,255 --> 00:30:12,465 We cut four things, I think. Bill and I argue about this. 561 00:30:12,500 --> 00:30:14,985 I thought it was only three, but he says it was five. 562 00:30:15,020 --> 00:30:16,469 He's probably right 563 00:30:16,504 --> 00:30:18,437 because he's got it all written down somewhere. 564 00:30:20,542 --> 00:30:22,475 We went and we cut five tracks. 565 00:30:22,510 --> 00:30:25,064 The guy who owned the place, Harold Clewson 566 00:30:25,099 --> 00:30:27,929 took them around to Decca and EMI and Pi 567 00:30:27,964 --> 00:30:29,448 and nobody liked them. 568 00:30:29,482 --> 00:30:32,623 And we thought that was the end of our recording careers. 569 00:30:34,833 --> 00:30:37,318 It started to happen when Andrew Oldham signed us. 570 00:30:37,352 --> 00:30:39,009 I'm proud of most things I did. 571 00:30:39,044 --> 00:30:40,666 Just, whether the proudness remains 572 00:30:40,700 --> 00:30:42,392 is whether they happen or they don't happen. 573 00:30:42,426 --> 00:30:44,601 Um, the biggest thing naturally is the Rolling Stones. 574 00:30:44,635 --> 00:30:47,500 Andrew said he saw the sex emanatin' from us 575 00:30:47,535 --> 00:30:48,916 and, you know, and all this sort of bullshit 576 00:30:48,950 --> 00:30:51,504 the way Andrew talks, which was fantastic 577 00:30:51,539 --> 00:30:53,265 'cause he was a genius. 578 00:30:55,370 --> 00:30:57,476 Bill, I didn't pay much attention to 579 00:30:57,510 --> 00:30:59,167 and he knows that. 580 00:30:59,202 --> 00:31:02,239 Because of being deeply superficial 581 00:31:02,274 --> 00:31:05,484 I judged books by their cover 582 00:31:05,518 --> 00:31:08,280 and he seemed to be much more of a Duane Eddy 583 00:31:08,314 --> 00:31:10,903 Johnny and the Hurricanes type of guy to me 584 00:31:10,938 --> 00:31:13,078 than a, than a Bo Diddley guy. 585 00:31:13,112 --> 00:31:16,460 Bill might have had moments where he thought 586 00:31:16,495 --> 00:31:19,843 not that his life was over, but his life was set. 587 00:31:19,878 --> 00:31:21,880 And then along came the Rolling Stones. 588 00:31:25,504 --> 00:31:27,851 The phone rings and it's Andrew Oldham saying 589 00:31:27,886 --> 00:31:30,233 "Can I speak to Terry O'Neill?" So I speak to him. 590 00:31:30,267 --> 00:31:32,097 He said, "Can you do what you did 591 00:31:32,131 --> 00:31:33,995 for the Beatles for the Stones?" 592 00:31:34,030 --> 00:31:35,410 I said, "Well, I'll give it a try." 593 00:31:35,445 --> 00:31:37,516 And that's when I first met Bill. 594 00:31:37,550 --> 00:31:39,967 I took the pictures back, and the picture editor said 595 00:31:40,001 --> 00:31:43,280 "God, they look like five prehistoric monsters." 596 00:31:43,315 --> 00:31:45,420 It was a mania with the Beatles 597 00:31:45,455 --> 00:31:48,044 whereas with the Stones, it was an appreciation. 598 00:31:48,078 --> 00:31:49,908 It became a cult. 599 00:31:50,978 --> 00:31:53,912 [instrumental music] 600 00:32:36,023 --> 00:32:39,681 Alright then, this is the Rolling Stones interview 601 00:32:39,716 --> 00:32:42,167 for the fan club, December, Christmastime. 602 00:32:42,201 --> 00:32:44,031 Mick, Bill and Charlie. 603 00:32:44,065 --> 00:32:47,172 When did you first get mobbed? Do you remember that word? 604 00:32:47,206 --> 00:32:50,002 - Yeah. - Well, that's a good question. 605 00:32:50,037 --> 00:32:51,555 I don't remember, you know. 606 00:32:51,590 --> 00:32:53,005 It was like something, I remember... 607 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,594 - I do. - Oh, well, Bill, okay, go on. 608 00:32:55,628 --> 00:32:58,286 He remembers everything. I'm trying... 609 00:32:58,321 --> 00:33:00,495 We, the first time we got mobbed.. 610 00:33:00,530 --> 00:33:03,015 - Go on, where was it? - This doesn't happen anymore. 611 00:33:03,050 --> 00:33:04,430 It was about a third of the way 612 00:33:04,465 --> 00:33:07,088 through the Everly Brothers tour. 613 00:33:07,123 --> 00:33:08,710 - Really? - Up in the north. 614 00:33:08,745 --> 00:33:10,160 It was either in Manchester or Liverpool 615 00:33:10,195 --> 00:33:12,024 one of those places. 616 00:33:12,059 --> 00:33:15,027 Um, where we were actually attacked for the first time 617 00:33:15,062 --> 00:33:17,167 when we tried to get out of the theater. 618 00:33:17,202 --> 00:33:18,824 [crowd cheering] 619 00:33:18,858 --> 00:33:20,722 Okay, here we go. 620 00:33:20,757 --> 00:33:22,966 And now I'd like to introduce to you 621 00:33:23,001 --> 00:33:25,831 the fabulous Rolling Stones. 622 00:33:25,865 --> 00:33:28,558 [cheering] 623 00:33:28,592 --> 00:33:31,457 We'd go on stage and go jan-ta-jan 624 00:33:31,492 --> 00:33:32,665 and the whole crowd would pour on stage 625 00:33:32,700 --> 00:33:34,460 and that was the end of the show. 626 00:33:34,495 --> 00:33:37,084 Two chords, end of the show. 627 00:33:37,118 --> 00:33:40,294 And if we got through three songs, it was, like, amazing. 628 00:33:40,328 --> 00:33:43,262 [instrumental music] 629 00:33:48,716 --> 00:33:50,925 Sometimes they put police dogs on each end of the stage 630 00:33:50,959 --> 00:33:53,445 to stop the kids getting on. The police dogs went nuts. 631 00:33:53,479 --> 00:33:55,412 [dogs barking] 632 00:34:00,590 --> 00:34:03,317 The only way you could get out of the theater in time 633 00:34:03,351 --> 00:34:06,492 when you played the last chord of the last song 634 00:34:06,527 --> 00:34:09,116 the curtains closed and they had to play 635 00:34:09,150 --> 00:34:10,393 "God Save The Queen." 636 00:34:10,427 --> 00:34:12,395 [crowd cheering] 637 00:34:12,429 --> 00:34:14,362 [instrumental "God Save The Queen"] 638 00:34:16,364 --> 00:34:19,298 And the audience had to stand there for those two minutes. 639 00:34:19,333 --> 00:34:23,268 And that was the two minutes we had to get off the stage 640 00:34:23,302 --> 00:34:25,511 down the corridors, out of the building 641 00:34:25,546 --> 00:34:27,720 into the police van or whatever it was 642 00:34:27,755 --> 00:34:31,034 the Black Mariah or the ambulance 643 00:34:31,069 --> 00:34:33,278 or the newspaper van we were using 644 00:34:33,312 --> 00:34:36,074 to be inconspicuous. 645 00:34:36,108 --> 00:34:37,592 And gone. 646 00:34:42,804 --> 00:34:44,323 Sometimes we didn't get out in time 647 00:34:44,358 --> 00:34:46,291 and then we just got mashed. 648 00:34:52,469 --> 00:34:55,231 And then we went abroad, fucking hell. 649 00:34:55,265 --> 00:34:57,198 [The Rolling Stones singing "Street Fighting Man"] 650 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,410 Please fasten your seatbelts and do not smoke. 651 00:35:08,209 --> 00:35:11,764 ♪ Everywhere I hear the sound ♪ 652 00:35:11,799 --> 00:35:17,322 ♪ Of marching charging feet boy ♪ 653 00:35:17,356 --> 00:35:21,188 ♪ 'Cause summer's here and the time is right ♪ 654 00:35:21,222 --> 00:35:26,779 ♪ For fighting in the street boy ♪ 655 00:35:26,814 --> 00:35:30,887 ♪ Well now what can a poor boy do ♪ 656 00:35:30,921 --> 00:35:34,649 ♪ Except to sing for a rock and roll band? ♪ 657 00:35:34,684 --> 00:35:37,583 ♪ 'Cause in sleepy London town ♪ 658 00:35:37,618 --> 00:35:43,382 ♪ There's just no place for a street fighting man ♪ 659 00:35:47,214 --> 00:35:49,423 You talk about being worn out 660 00:35:49,457 --> 00:35:50,976 but you've never been as worn out 661 00:35:51,010 --> 00:35:53,461 as we were the other week. 662 00:35:53,496 --> 00:35:55,118 On Wednesday, the 15th 663 00:35:55,153 --> 00:35:57,534 we left Munich and flew to West Berlin 664 00:35:57,569 --> 00:36:00,227 and that's where the story really starts. 665 00:36:01,435 --> 00:36:02,884 We arrived at the airport. 666 00:36:02,919 --> 00:36:05,024 They said we'll hold a press conference. 667 00:36:05,059 --> 00:36:06,923 We got in, started the press conference. 668 00:36:06,957 --> 00:36:08,407 We were there five minutes, and the kids 669 00:36:08,442 --> 00:36:10,168 are breaking the doors down and everything 670 00:36:10,202 --> 00:36:12,308 and the police kept bringing reinforcements in 671 00:36:12,342 --> 00:36:14,275 to hold the doors and everything at each end. 672 00:36:15,828 --> 00:36:17,830 The chief of police came over and he said 673 00:36:17,865 --> 00:36:19,970 "We can't hold 'em any longer. You'll have to go." 674 00:36:20,005 --> 00:36:23,215 So we had to run out and fight our way through to the bus 675 00:36:23,250 --> 00:36:25,942 and then the bus had to fight its way through the crowd. 676 00:36:25,976 --> 00:36:29,635 And away we went with an escort of about six police cars 677 00:36:29,670 --> 00:36:34,053 and about twenty helmeted and armed police on motorbikes. 678 00:36:34,088 --> 00:36:36,055 Unbelievable, you know. 679 00:36:36,090 --> 00:36:38,161 I never had my movie camera with me. 680 00:36:38,196 --> 00:36:40,232 I'm so annoyed that I missed it, you know. 681 00:36:40,267 --> 00:36:42,200 [The Rolling Stones singing "Route 66"] 682 00:36:43,615 --> 00:36:46,307 ♪ Well if you ever plan ♪ 683 00:36:46,342 --> 00:36:47,964 We were over the moon to hear 684 00:36:47,998 --> 00:36:49,483 that we were gonna go to America. 685 00:36:49,517 --> 00:36:51,209 ♪ Just take my way ♪ 686 00:36:51,243 --> 00:36:54,039 ♪ That's the highway that's the best ♪ 687 00:36:55,489 --> 00:36:59,182 ♪ Get your kicks on Route 66 ♪ 688 00:36:59,217 --> 00:37:01,771 The Beatles, they made it in America. 689 00:37:01,805 --> 00:37:04,981 The Rolling Stones were made by America. 690 00:37:05,015 --> 00:37:08,260 One started to be able to watch with all of them 691 00:37:08,295 --> 00:37:10,642 some magical development 692 00:37:10,676 --> 00:37:13,300 as they were able to record 693 00:37:13,334 --> 00:37:15,923 with their feet touching the land 694 00:37:15,957 --> 00:37:17,614 that created their passion. 695 00:37:19,098 --> 00:37:21,480 You had to break every town and every state. 696 00:37:21,515 --> 00:37:23,379 You were right in the middle of it. 697 00:37:23,413 --> 00:37:26,002 ♪ Oklahoma City looks oh so pretty ♪ 698 00:37:26,036 --> 00:37:28,522 ♪ You'll see Amarillo ♪ 699 00:37:30,144 --> 00:37:31,456 Let's run one down. 700 00:37:33,078 --> 00:37:35,253 Rolling master A. Master A, take one. 701 00:37:35,287 --> 00:37:37,669 [instrumental music] 702 00:37:37,703 --> 00:37:40,292 Going to Chess was like a pilgrimage. 703 00:37:40,327 --> 00:37:44,952 We knew that that's where most of our idols recorded. 704 00:37:44,986 --> 00:37:47,782 Bo Diddley, Chuck Berry, Howlin' Wolf. 705 00:37:50,302 --> 00:37:52,477 We hoped we could get the right sound 706 00:37:52,511 --> 00:37:54,755 that we weren't being able to get in the UK. 707 00:37:54,789 --> 00:37:55,997 And we did. 708 00:37:58,068 --> 00:38:01,037 We played their blues music brilliantly 709 00:38:01,071 --> 00:38:03,177 and that's what shocked them. 710 00:38:10,357 --> 00:38:13,463 - What's your ambition now? - To be a musician. 711 00:38:16,432 --> 00:38:18,744 I'm not... I'm not a musician. I just play in a band, you know. 712 00:38:18,779 --> 00:38:20,470 ♪ Well I'm a king bee ♪ 713 00:38:22,092 --> 00:38:23,404 ♪ Buzzing around ♪ 714 00:38:23,439 --> 00:38:24,474 There was something about 715 00:38:24,509 --> 00:38:26,234 Bill's bass lines in the Stones. 716 00:38:26,269 --> 00:38:28,858 It was the first thing you'd hear 717 00:38:28,892 --> 00:38:31,136 the thing that was most hooky about it. 718 00:38:31,170 --> 00:38:35,071 It was so precise and so contained, you know. 719 00:38:35,105 --> 00:38:37,038 It wasn't gettin' away with itself. 720 00:38:37,073 --> 00:38:38,902 It was just right. 721 00:38:38,937 --> 00:38:41,284 The best informed are the best players 722 00:38:41,319 --> 00:38:43,735 and I think Bill's one of those. 723 00:38:43,769 --> 00:38:45,219 It's never been pop. 724 00:38:45,253 --> 00:38:46,565 It's been rock and roll 725 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,498 but it's been informed by blues 726 00:38:48,533 --> 00:38:52,260 which is the magical combination. 727 00:38:52,295 --> 00:38:55,609 Bill is like no other bass player I've ever heard. 728 00:38:55,643 --> 00:38:58,508 He has an incredibly simplistic approach to what he's doing. 729 00:38:58,543 --> 00:39:01,269 And I think that's just Bill's complete lack of ego 730 00:39:01,304 --> 00:39:02,512 as a musician, really. 731 00:39:02,547 --> 00:39:04,376 It's very often not what you play 732 00:39:04,411 --> 00:39:06,344 but what you don't play, what you leave out 733 00:39:06,378 --> 00:39:09,001 that makes a distinction as to your abilities, really. 734 00:39:09,036 --> 00:39:11,590 ♪ We can make honey ♪ 735 00:39:11,625 --> 00:39:14,731 ♪ The world has never seen ♪ 736 00:39:14,766 --> 00:39:17,562 There were a lot of these really technically brilliant 737 00:39:17,596 --> 00:39:21,911 bass players that can play me off the stage any time. 738 00:39:21,945 --> 00:39:24,914 To me, they just sound like lead guitar players. 739 00:39:24,948 --> 00:39:28,538 So busy that there doesn't seem much room for anybody else. 740 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:32,508 ♪ Sting-a-been ♪ 741 00:39:32,542 --> 00:39:34,475 [indistinct chatter] 742 00:39:44,382 --> 00:39:47,454 The key for me is Bill and Charlie together. 743 00:39:47,488 --> 00:39:50,042 When they play together, it's extraordinary. 744 00:39:50,077 --> 00:39:52,528 The power of the two of them is greater than the four. 745 00:39:52,562 --> 00:39:56,014 Just that magic chemical combination of feel. 746 00:39:56,048 --> 00:39:58,603 ♪ I just wanna make love to you ♪ 747 00:39:58,637 --> 00:40:02,434 Really easy guy. And a really good bass player. 748 00:40:02,469 --> 00:40:04,919 Very, very unassuming bass player. 749 00:40:04,954 --> 00:40:07,059 And some of the records that we made 750 00:40:07,094 --> 00:40:09,821 he's quite brilliant on. 751 00:40:09,855 --> 00:40:12,099 Fortunately, the pair of us 752 00:40:12,133 --> 00:40:14,791 made a living out of doing it together. 753 00:40:16,862 --> 00:40:19,175 We were always referred to as the straightest 754 00:40:19,209 --> 00:40:21,419 rhythm section in rock and roll. 755 00:40:33,983 --> 00:40:35,260 [indistinct chatter] 756 00:40:37,020 --> 00:40:38,608 Bill, how did this, uh, come about? 757 00:40:38,643 --> 00:40:41,577 This, uh, with writing miserable articles 758 00:40:41,611 --> 00:40:44,234 about the Stones? Did this originate in Europe? 759 00:40:44,269 --> 00:40:47,134 It started when we started in England, you know 760 00:40:47,168 --> 00:40:49,723 but, um, by now in England 761 00:40:49,757 --> 00:40:51,897 everybody knows what we really are like 762 00:40:51,932 --> 00:40:54,555 so they don't write things that are untrue, you know. 763 00:41:02,252 --> 00:41:04,669 The Beatles are loved by pretty well everybody 764 00:41:04,703 --> 00:41:07,154 from the moms down to the teenagers. 765 00:41:07,188 --> 00:41:10,260 It seems to me that you're either loved or hated. 766 00:41:11,676 --> 00:41:14,886 Everything we did was so alien to the norm. 767 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,784 They just did not get it. 768 00:41:16,819 --> 00:41:20,478 Why we didn't succumb to being showbiz-y. 769 00:41:20,512 --> 00:41:22,480 All the other bands would succumb to doing 770 00:41:22,514 --> 00:41:24,999 what they're told just for that bit of publicity. 771 00:41:25,034 --> 00:41:28,037 We didn't need it, we avoided publicity in the end. 772 00:41:30,867 --> 00:41:33,387 It was us against the world. It really was. 773 00:41:33,421 --> 00:41:35,631 We were just refusing to conform. 774 00:41:38,944 --> 00:41:41,257 If a kid wants to let his hair grow long 775 00:41:41,291 --> 00:41:44,294 or he wants to wear rags, or he wants to play a guitar 776 00:41:44,329 --> 00:41:45,606 or do anything, or kick a ball in the street 777 00:41:45,641 --> 00:41:46,883 it's nothing to do with us. 778 00:41:46,918 --> 00:41:48,678 If he likes to listen to our music, that's great 779 00:41:48,713 --> 00:41:50,887 if he wants to come to a concert. 780 00:41:50,922 --> 00:41:52,544 But apart from that, we didn't believe 781 00:41:52,579 --> 00:41:54,166 we had any responsibility. 782 00:42:03,555 --> 00:42:06,282 I always thought he didn't like me being in the Stones 783 00:42:06,316 --> 00:42:08,422 'cause he never said anything nice. 784 00:42:08,456 --> 00:42:10,458 He was always moaning about it. 785 00:42:12,426 --> 00:42:14,532 I just don't think that generation could get 786 00:42:14,566 --> 00:42:18,225 into their head that their kids could be successful 787 00:42:18,259 --> 00:42:21,055 in something that wasn't a normal job. 788 00:42:22,781 --> 00:42:26,129 So when I succeeded playing music 789 00:42:26,164 --> 00:42:28,822 a... and doing better than them 790 00:42:28,856 --> 00:42:30,789 it was out of order, wasn't it? 791 00:42:32,308 --> 00:42:35,035 But my mom did tell me 792 00:42:35,069 --> 00:42:36,588 on a couple of occasions 793 00:42:36,623 --> 00:42:38,452 when t... they were in the pub 794 00:42:38,486 --> 00:42:41,075 uh, when someone was going on about 795 00:42:41,110 --> 00:42:44,251 "Stones, dirty lot," he would stick up for us. 796 00:42:44,285 --> 00:42:46,494 He'd tell them to mind their own business. 797 00:42:47,979 --> 00:42:50,809 And so he did it without my knowledge 798 00:42:50,844 --> 00:42:52,846 but he never did it to my face. 799 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,020 But he wasn't that kind of a person. 800 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,197 I mean, looking back, I don't blame him 801 00:42:59,231 --> 00:43:02,614 because he... he had a terrible childhood. 802 00:43:02,649 --> 00:43:04,547 A really terrible childhood. 803 00:43:15,662 --> 00:43:19,079 Everything was changin' in those early '60s. 804 00:43:19,113 --> 00:43:21,046 [The Rolling Stones singing "19th Nervous Breakdown"] 805 00:43:24,084 --> 00:43:26,880 ♪ You're the kind of person you meet at certain ♪ 806 00:43:26,914 --> 00:43:29,158 ♪ Dismal dull affairs ♪ 807 00:43:29,192 --> 00:43:31,816 ♪ Center of a crowd talking much too loud ♪ 808 00:43:31,850 --> 00:43:34,646 The music, art, fashion. 809 00:43:34,681 --> 00:43:37,373 Suddenly, girls were wearing miniskirts. 810 00:43:37,407 --> 00:43:39,306 It just went right across the board. 811 00:43:39,340 --> 00:43:42,274 ♪ And though you try you just can't hide ♪ 812 00:43:42,309 --> 00:43:44,829 All the clubs started to appear in London. 813 00:43:44,863 --> 00:43:47,728 You'd bump into the Beatles or the Animals or the Hollies. 814 00:43:47,763 --> 00:43:49,454 Ah, they were just everywhere. 815 00:43:49,488 --> 00:43:50,938 You just moved from one to the other 816 00:43:50,973 --> 00:43:52,906 and sometimes you saw live acts. 817 00:43:54,839 --> 00:43:56,668 You'd go and see Benny King somewhere 818 00:43:56,703 --> 00:43:59,326 and then you'd see Lee Dorsey somewhere else. 819 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,640 I'm at the Scotch of St. James, I met Otis Redding 820 00:44:02,674 --> 00:44:05,159 and talked to him for about half an hour. 821 00:44:05,194 --> 00:44:07,921 You know, when you met those people in those days 822 00:44:07,955 --> 00:44:10,440 they were like gods to me. 823 00:44:10,475 --> 00:44:12,719 I think a lot of it had to do with the music 824 00:44:12,753 --> 00:44:14,928 and then the birth pill 825 00:44:14,962 --> 00:44:16,757 all them British movies 826 00:44:16,792 --> 00:44:18,276 it was coming from everywhere. 827 00:44:18,310 --> 00:44:19,518 It was sort of a hurricane 828 00:44:19,553 --> 00:44:21,866 and we were coming in the middle of it. 829 00:44:21,900 --> 00:44:24,351 ♪ Your father's still perfecting ways ♪ 830 00:44:24,385 --> 00:44:26,767 ♪ Of making sealing wax ♪ 831 00:44:26,802 --> 00:44:28,596 ♪ You better stop ♪ 832 00:44:38,261 --> 00:44:39,815 Me and Brian used to go out to the clubs 833 00:44:39,849 --> 00:44:41,264 and pick up girls. 834 00:44:44,923 --> 00:44:48,858 They used to camp outside the hotel on the grass. 835 00:44:48,893 --> 00:44:51,136 You know, of course, I jumped at it 836 00:44:51,171 --> 00:44:55,416 and it just became part of my life after that. 837 00:44:55,451 --> 00:44:58,765 It became a habit just through 838 00:44:58,799 --> 00:45:02,458 honestly, loneliness and just wanting affection. 839 00:45:02,492 --> 00:45:04,356 And these girls were affectionate. 840 00:45:04,391 --> 00:45:06,876 [crowd cheering] 841 00:45:06,911 --> 00:45:09,085 There was probably an addiction to sex 842 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,432 because I wasn't addicted to drugs 843 00:45:11,467 --> 00:45:13,400 and I wasn't addicted to wine. 844 00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:24,998 My first marriage, it never worked. 845 00:45:25,032 --> 00:45:26,931 It was down to the same old thing 846 00:45:26,965 --> 00:45:30,555 of marrying the girl next door was the phrase. 847 00:45:32,212 --> 00:45:33,765 Getting married got me out of the family. 848 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,630 Of course, it did, out of the home. 849 00:45:36,664 --> 00:45:39,357 It was hard coming home to my wife 850 00:45:39,391 --> 00:45:41,290 who obviously knew what was going on. 851 00:45:41,324 --> 00:45:44,155 But then I found at one time, she had a relationship going. 852 00:45:44,189 --> 00:45:46,122 I mean, obviously, I don't blame her. 853 00:45:47,606 --> 00:45:50,437 And then you end up with a child out of the blue 854 00:45:50,471 --> 00:45:52,922 and you just stay together for the sake of the child 855 00:45:52,957 --> 00:45:55,822 which is always the worst thing you can do. 856 00:45:55,856 --> 00:45:57,789 Until I finally got divorced. 857 00:46:08,489 --> 00:46:10,733 She insisted that she would take Stephen 858 00:46:10,768 --> 00:46:14,668 to South Africa with her, which really hurt me. 859 00:46:18,154 --> 00:46:21,744 But then I thought, "Well, it's better that he grows up 860 00:46:21,779 --> 00:46:25,334 with one parent in a normal way of life." 861 00:46:25,368 --> 00:46:27,785 If it isn't with me, then it has to be with her. 862 00:46:31,616 --> 00:46:33,100 I'll get Stephen to say something to you. 863 00:46:33,135 --> 00:46:34,550 Just a minute. 864 00:46:34,584 --> 00:46:36,448 Come and say hello to Dave. 865 00:46:36,483 --> 00:46:38,899 Come and say hello to Dave. 866 00:46:38,934 --> 00:46:40,867 - Hello. - Say hello, Dave. 867 00:46:40,901 --> 00:46:43,214 - Hello. - Say how are you? 868 00:46:43,248 --> 00:46:47,874 How are you? I will see you soon. Bye-bye. 869 00:46:49,565 --> 00:46:52,085 He came back in the summer of '68. 870 00:46:53,672 --> 00:46:56,330 And when I saw the state he was in, I was shocked 871 00:46:56,365 --> 00:46:59,023 because he was complainin' of toothache 872 00:46:59,057 --> 00:47:02,336 he was thin, he didn't look well at all. 873 00:47:02,371 --> 00:47:05,823 So I refused to return him to South Africa. 874 00:47:05,857 --> 00:47:09,965 And then I had to fight for him and a divorce. 875 00:47:11,794 --> 00:47:13,175 I went to the court 876 00:47:13,209 --> 00:47:16,626 and the judge gave me custody, which was a miracle. 877 00:47:18,905 --> 00:47:21,424 And from that day on, I brought Stephen up. 878 00:47:33,781 --> 00:47:35,266 I broke up from my wife. 879 00:47:35,300 --> 00:47:37,785 Astrid, my girlfriend, moved in with me. 880 00:47:37,820 --> 00:47:39,753 I'd met her by then. 881 00:47:50,937 --> 00:47:53,146 We arrived at this gate 882 00:47:53,180 --> 00:47:56,804 and a gardener came with a shotgun broken off 883 00:47:56,839 --> 00:47:58,634 and said, "What do you want?" 884 00:47:58,668 --> 00:48:00,498 And we said, "Is this Gedding Hall?" 885 00:48:00,532 --> 00:48:02,293 And he said, "Yes." 886 00:48:02,327 --> 00:48:05,020 And I said, "We understand that the place is goin' up 887 00:48:05,054 --> 00:48:06,987 for sale tomorrow. Could we have a look?" 888 00:48:07,022 --> 00:48:08,678 And he said, "Well, the owners are not here 889 00:48:08,713 --> 00:48:10,784 but I'll show you 'round the outside." 890 00:48:13,821 --> 00:48:16,928 And I saw this unbelievable house 891 00:48:16,963 --> 00:48:19,206 which I just couldn't believe. 892 00:48:20,449 --> 00:48:22,900 Oh, God, it was extraordinary. 893 00:48:29,078 --> 00:48:32,081 The owner was Jeff Allen. 894 00:48:32,116 --> 00:48:34,877 He took me into the lounge for a cup of tea 895 00:48:34,912 --> 00:48:39,675 and I saw a 10 by 8 photo on the top of the TV 896 00:48:39,709 --> 00:48:43,023 of Ronnie, Reggie and Charlie Kray 897 00:48:43,058 --> 00:48:45,750 saying "Love to Jeff from the boys." 898 00:48:45,784 --> 00:48:47,786 "Uh, what's that, Mr. Allen?" 899 00:48:47,821 --> 00:48:49,478 He says, "Oh, they... they're the Krays. 900 00:48:49,512 --> 00:48:51,859 They're friends of mine. They're nice lads." 901 00:48:54,345 --> 00:48:56,071 I found later that he was a godfather 902 00:48:56,105 --> 00:48:59,143 and he would invest their money in country houses and stuff 903 00:48:59,177 --> 00:49:01,800 but that's another story. 904 00:49:01,835 --> 00:49:03,630 I asked him how much he wanted for the property 905 00:49:03,664 --> 00:49:06,219 and it was 45,000 pounds. 906 00:49:06,253 --> 00:49:08,773 After being a top band for five years 907 00:49:08,807 --> 00:49:10,085 we didn't have money. 908 00:49:10,119 --> 00:49:12,708 Money always seemed to vanish. 909 00:49:12,742 --> 00:49:14,986 Jeff, bless him, did a deal 910 00:49:15,021 --> 00:49:18,162 and let me have it for a price I could afford. 911 00:49:18,196 --> 00:49:19,991 He said, "I'll tell you what. 912 00:49:20,026 --> 00:49:22,890 "I admire you. You're a self-made man like me. 913 00:49:22,925 --> 00:49:25,790 "I come from the east end of London, you come from London. 914 00:49:25,824 --> 00:49:27,516 It's yours." 915 00:49:27,550 --> 00:49:28,724 It's a wonderful place. 916 00:49:28,758 --> 00:49:31,313 I mean, my soul is there, I think. 917 00:49:31,347 --> 00:49:33,522 I'm never happier than when I'm there. 918 00:49:36,352 --> 00:49:38,906 So when the drug busts were coming in '67 919 00:49:38,941 --> 00:49:40,874 I was just reading it in the press. 920 00:49:42,151 --> 00:49:44,429 Mr. Jagger accused of allowing his home 921 00:49:44,464 --> 00:49:46,466 at West Wittering to be used for the purpose 922 00:49:46,500 --> 00:49:50,159 of smoking cannabis resin, better known as hashish. 923 00:49:50,194 --> 00:49:52,748 And after the three-minute hearing, Jones came out 924 00:49:52,782 --> 00:49:55,268 through the back of the court and drove away 925 00:49:55,302 --> 00:49:57,580 crouching down on the rear seat of a car. 926 00:49:57,615 --> 00:49:59,755 I honestly didn't know whether who was gonna be in jail 927 00:49:59,789 --> 00:50:02,378 what week and who was gonna be in the studio. 928 00:50:02,413 --> 00:50:04,277 I didn't want anything to do with drugs. 929 00:50:04,311 --> 00:50:06,693 I didn't confront it with them. 930 00:50:06,727 --> 00:50:09,696 I just ignored it, stepped away from it 931 00:50:09,730 --> 00:50:13,044 and got stuck into what I wanted to do. 932 00:50:13,079 --> 00:50:16,047 I was avoiding facing their problem 933 00:50:16,082 --> 00:50:17,876 because it wasn't my problem. 934 00:50:17,911 --> 00:50:20,224 So I was living two lives, really. 935 00:50:21,639 --> 00:50:24,642 Once, I had a puff of some bloody joint they had. 936 00:50:24,676 --> 00:50:28,853 Apparently, it had elephant tranquilizer in it. 937 00:50:28,887 --> 00:50:30,993 I went down this corridor and there was someone coming 938 00:50:31,028 --> 00:50:32,857 towards me that I kind of vaguely knew 939 00:50:32,891 --> 00:50:34,893 so I stopped and chatted to them 940 00:50:34,928 --> 00:50:37,862 for about 10 or 15 minutes. 941 00:50:37,896 --> 00:50:40,002 And then I looked up again and it was me. 942 00:50:40,037 --> 00:50:41,762 I was looking in the mirror. 943 00:50:41,797 --> 00:50:43,799 And I thought, "I don't fucking need this." 944 00:50:48,873 --> 00:50:51,117 I have to have my feet on the ground. 945 00:50:51,151 --> 00:50:53,257 I can't go floatin' off. 946 00:50:53,291 --> 00:50:56,225 The emptiness underneath me terrifies me. 947 00:50:56,260 --> 00:50:58,469 I've got a phobia about it. 948 00:50:58,503 --> 00:51:00,471 Most people think there's something else 949 00:51:00,505 --> 00:51:03,646 on the other side of the street which they're not experiencin' 950 00:51:03,681 --> 00:51:07,236 and so they wanna go there and try it out, don't they? 951 00:51:07,271 --> 00:51:09,204 So if you look at any band 952 00:51:09,238 --> 00:51:12,828 and I mean any band from the mid '60s 953 00:51:12,862 --> 00:51:15,486 you've got losses. Every band. 954 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,489 Searching for something that really ain't there. 955 00:51:18,523 --> 00:51:21,078 Brian was a typical example of that. 956 00:51:23,425 --> 00:51:26,359 I was really sad when Brian started 957 00:51:26,393 --> 00:51:28,361 to, uh, fall to bits basically. 958 00:51:29,845 --> 00:51:32,192 We'd be in LA and we'd go out to the clubs 959 00:51:32,227 --> 00:51:33,780 and he'd be on LSD. 960 00:51:33,814 --> 00:51:36,610 And he... he'd be getting out the limo and going 961 00:51:36,645 --> 00:51:38,405 "Oh, look, there's snakes all over the ground." 962 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:39,924 He'd be jumping about all over the ground. 963 00:51:39,958 --> 00:51:42,996 Fucking hell, Brian. You know, "The ceiling's on fire." 964 00:51:43,030 --> 00:51:45,171 Oh, yeah. Yeah, it certainly is, Brian. 965 00:51:45,205 --> 00:51:47,449 I just used to let him get on with it, but, um 966 00:51:47,483 --> 00:51:49,865 he would go off on those tangents a lot. 967 00:51:55,802 --> 00:51:58,322 He was thrown out of the band 968 00:51:58,356 --> 00:52:00,427 and he died a month later. 969 00:52:26,039 --> 00:52:28,075 Charlie phoned me up. 970 00:52:28,110 --> 00:52:30,630 He just said, "Brian died." 971 00:52:30,664 --> 00:52:32,701 I couldn't believe it, you know. 972 00:52:32,735 --> 00:52:35,911 The press was so bad at the funeral. 973 00:52:35,945 --> 00:52:39,846 I mean, everybody's around the grave, you know 974 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,607 and they're... they're putting the coffin in and all that 975 00:52:42,642 --> 00:52:45,576 and the, the preacher's reading... reading out 976 00:52:45,610 --> 00:52:47,302 and, like, all his family and relatives 977 00:52:47,336 --> 00:52:50,374 are all, like, tranquilized and everything. 978 00:52:50,408 --> 00:52:51,789 Everybody's crying and upset. 979 00:52:51,823 --> 00:52:54,067 There's thousands of fans everywhere. 980 00:52:54,101 --> 00:52:55,310 And there's kids running up to you 981 00:52:55,344 --> 00:52:57,484 asking for autographs, you know. 982 00:52:57,519 --> 00:53:00,729 And, uh, there's press guys with cameras everywhere 983 00:53:00,763 --> 00:53:04,008 like all leaning over you and getting snaps in the.. 984 00:53:04,042 --> 00:53:05,389 Oh, man, it was really sick. 985 00:53:05,423 --> 00:53:10,083 There's... movies going and all that, you know. 986 00:53:10,117 --> 00:53:11,740 There was no respect at all. 987 00:53:13,259 --> 00:53:17,021 And when he went, it really sort of got me bad. 988 00:53:21,025 --> 00:53:23,130 Somebody a bit special. 989 00:53:31,380 --> 00:53:33,348 That planned Hyde Park concert 990 00:53:33,382 --> 00:53:36,213 ended up being a bit of a memorial to Brian 991 00:53:36,247 --> 00:53:38,387 because of his death two days earlier. 992 00:53:39,595 --> 00:53:42,253 An English park on a Saturday afternoon 993 00:53:42,288 --> 00:53:44,428 July 5, 1969. 994 00:53:44,462 --> 00:53:48,190 There must be 200,000 people here, youngsters. 995 00:53:48,225 --> 00:53:49,812 In about another hour, I should imagine 996 00:53:49,847 --> 00:53:52,263 there will be a quarter of a million. 997 00:53:52,298 --> 00:53:54,403 And it was extraordinary that day. 998 00:54:06,035 --> 00:54:07,968 [crowd cheering] 999 00:54:17,495 --> 00:54:19,083 Alright! 1000 00:54:19,117 --> 00:54:22,051 [singing "I'm Yours And I'm Hers"] 1001 00:54:31,198 --> 00:54:34,926 ♪ You know I'm yours and I'm hers ♪ 1002 00:54:34,961 --> 00:54:38,413 ♪ Somebody else's too ♪ 1003 00:54:42,969 --> 00:54:46,421 ♪ You know I'm yours and I'm hers ♪ 1004 00:54:54,463 --> 00:54:56,741 It was Mick Taylor's first show with us. 1005 00:54:56,776 --> 00:54:59,157 That must have been a staggerin' thing for him. 1006 00:54:59,192 --> 00:55:01,263 The first gig with a band 1007 00:55:01,298 --> 00:55:04,991 and you're playin' half a million people. 1008 00:55:05,025 --> 00:55:07,683 From every direction I looked at 1009 00:55:07,718 --> 00:55:09,789 there were just heads 1010 00:55:09,823 --> 00:55:12,412 and it was just like a carpet of different colored hair. 1011 00:55:12,447 --> 00:55:15,208 That's what I could explain it as. 1012 00:55:19,454 --> 00:55:21,352 The whole day was wonderful. 1013 00:55:21,387 --> 00:55:25,529 There was no... no violence, no fights, no drugs, no.. 1014 00:55:25,563 --> 00:55:27,634 It just went like a dream. 1015 00:55:34,779 --> 00:55:37,023 That autumn, we set off on a tour of America 1016 00:55:37,057 --> 00:55:39,474 with Mick Taylor and it was a wonderful tour. 1017 00:55:41,545 --> 00:55:44,479 The future of the band was looking very healthy 1018 00:55:44,513 --> 00:55:45,928 and positive. 1019 00:55:45,963 --> 00:55:48,517 You didn't have so much of the screamin' 1020 00:55:48,552 --> 00:55:51,555 or very little of it, and people were listening. 1021 00:55:52,659 --> 00:55:54,799 And then came Altamont. 1022 00:55:54,834 --> 00:55:58,251 We wanted to repeat Hyde Park in America 1023 00:55:58,285 --> 00:56:00,909 as a thank you to the US fans. 1024 00:56:00,943 --> 00:56:02,842 Okay, it's definitely on. 1025 00:56:02,876 --> 00:56:04,568 The Rolling Stones are not going to appear 1026 00:56:04,602 --> 00:56:07,294 at the, uh, raceway in Sonoma. 1027 00:56:07,329 --> 00:56:09,745 They've decided now they're going to hold the concert 1028 00:56:09,780 --> 00:56:13,128 with the Grateful Dead, the Jefferson Airplane, Santana 1029 00:56:13,162 --> 00:56:16,062 and, of course, the Rolling Stones at Altamont Speedway 1030 00:56:16,096 --> 00:56:18,409 which is halfway between Tracy and Livermore. 1031 00:56:18,444 --> 00:56:20,377 What you do is you catch Highway 80.. 1032 00:56:28,177 --> 00:56:29,731 I don't really like talking about Altamont 1033 00:56:29,765 --> 00:56:33,562 'cause it was such an awful, awful, awful event. 1034 00:56:33,597 --> 00:56:35,702 The violence just never stopped. 1035 00:56:35,737 --> 00:56:38,395 And we kept trying to stop it, and we knew if we just 1036 00:56:38,429 --> 00:56:40,155 walked off the stage, it'd probably be worse. 1037 00:56:40,189 --> 00:56:42,709 So we hung on and tried to cool people out 1038 00:56:42,744 --> 00:56:44,401 and it didn't work. 1039 00:56:51,477 --> 00:56:53,548 Four people in the audience, uh, died 1040 00:56:53,582 --> 00:56:56,102 one of them from stab wounds, and the argument goes on 1041 00:56:56,136 --> 00:56:58,518 about how and what is to blame for that 1042 00:56:58,553 --> 00:57:01,625 or how that could have been prevented, I should say. 1043 00:57:01,659 --> 00:57:03,868 Sometimes things get out of control 1044 00:57:03,903 --> 00:57:06,388 and you can't do anything about it. 1045 00:57:06,423 --> 00:57:09,529 It was the death of the '60s, that's what they called it. 1046 00:57:09,564 --> 00:57:12,808 The death of the '60s. It was, really. 1047 00:57:12,843 --> 00:57:16,571 It was the time when the Stones could have just died 1048 00:57:16,605 --> 00:57:18,400 and they nearly did. 1049 00:57:28,203 --> 00:57:31,137 [The Rolling Stones singing "You Can't Always Get"] 1050 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,488 By 1970, we all owed 1051 00:57:37,523 --> 00:57:40,802 around about 100,000 pounds to the Inland Revenue 1052 00:57:40,836 --> 00:57:42,804 which we thought had been paid. 1053 00:57:42,838 --> 00:57:46,601 Tax with the labor government was between 83 and 93%. 1054 00:57:46,635 --> 00:57:48,982 There was no way we could possibly 1055 00:57:49,017 --> 00:57:50,397 earn enough money to pay it back. 1056 00:57:50,432 --> 00:57:52,399 ♪ I saw her today ♪ 1057 00:57:52,434 --> 00:57:54,505 It was impossible for us to stay in England 1058 00:57:54,540 --> 00:57:57,025 and so we had to go to France. 1059 00:57:57,059 --> 00:58:00,097 ♪ A glass of wine in her hand ♪ 1060 00:58:00,131 --> 00:58:02,340 And then, of course, we became the very first tax exiles. 1061 00:58:02,375 --> 00:58:05,999 ♪ I knew she was gonna meet her connection ♪ 1062 00:58:06,034 --> 00:58:07,656 It was difficult. We're probably 1063 00:58:07,691 --> 00:58:09,727 the most robbed band ever 1064 00:58:09,762 --> 00:58:11,764 but you learn, don't you? 1065 00:58:14,352 --> 00:58:18,253 ♪ You can't always get what you want ♪ 1066 00:58:18,287 --> 00:58:20,669 I mean, some bands have one shot, they got nothing 1067 00:58:20,704 --> 00:58:21,981 that's the end of it. 1068 00:58:22,015 --> 00:58:24,431 They don't have the chance of moving on 1069 00:58:24,466 --> 00:58:25,950 to improve their situation. 1070 00:58:25,985 --> 00:58:30,817 ♪ You can't always get what you want ♪ 1071 00:58:30,852 --> 00:58:34,545 But I hated leaving England. I hated it. 1072 00:58:34,580 --> 00:58:37,306 But we were told there was no alternative. 1073 00:58:37,341 --> 00:58:38,722 [plane whirring] 1074 00:58:46,523 --> 00:58:48,663 When I left that mornin' 1075 00:58:48,697 --> 00:58:52,356 and I left my mom and dad there and my son, Stephen 1076 00:58:52,390 --> 00:58:55,359 I was tearful, and I really didn't wanna go. 1077 00:58:55,393 --> 00:58:58,293 ♪ Fair share of abuse ♪ 1078 00:58:58,327 --> 00:59:01,020 I was sure I wasn't gonna like living in France. 1079 00:59:11,755 --> 00:59:14,689 [instrumental music] 1080 00:59:59,078 --> 01:00:01,770 People thought we all went and lived in the same house. 1081 01:00:01,805 --> 01:00:03,116 [chuckles] 1082 01:00:06,672 --> 01:00:08,639 We had to look for somewhere to record 1083 01:00:08,674 --> 01:00:11,366 because, you know, we needed a new record. 1084 01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,644 And in the end, we never found anything. 1085 01:00:33,802 --> 01:00:36,598 We have to go to Keith's house to do it. 1086 01:00:36,633 --> 01:00:38,220 Keith insists, otherwise Keith ain't ever 1087 01:00:38,255 --> 01:00:40,429 gonna go to the session, you know. 1088 01:00:42,259 --> 01:00:44,744 That's where we recorded Exile On Main Street. 1089 01:00:48,506 --> 01:00:51,233 We did it in the basement of his house. 1090 01:00:51,268 --> 01:00:52,752 It was a sad time 1091 01:00:52,787 --> 01:00:56,445 because everybody just got absorbed in takin' drugs. 1092 01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,379 I didn't want it. I didn't want anything of it, apart from the music. 1093 01:00:59,414 --> 01:01:02,348 [The Rolling Stones singing "Hip Shake"] 1094 01:01:09,631 --> 01:01:12,116 ♪ I wanna tell you about a dance ♪ 1095 01:01:12,151 --> 01:01:14,705 We were in this basement, which was like an oven. 1096 01:01:14,740 --> 01:01:18,019 And there's pictures of us lying on the floor, you know. 1097 01:01:18,053 --> 01:01:22,299 Whatever inconveniences, whatever things were impossible 1098 01:01:22,333 --> 01:01:24,784 to deal with sometimes, it worked. 1099 01:01:26,303 --> 01:01:29,030 We were dynamite. Un... unbeatable, really. 1100 01:01:30,238 --> 01:01:32,378 Title five, take one. 1101 01:01:33,344 --> 01:01:36,278 [instrumental music] 1102 01:01:51,673 --> 01:01:53,502 Last week, New York City finally got to see 1103 01:01:53,537 --> 01:01:54,503 and hear the Rolling Stones. 1104 01:01:54,538 --> 01:01:55,850 We were the last stop on a tour 1105 01:01:55,884 --> 01:01:57,817 that I'm sure most of you have heard about. 1106 01:02:01,890 --> 01:02:03,616 Would you ever do 30 cities again 1107 01:02:03,650 --> 01:02:05,929 in that amount of time if it were up to you? 1108 01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,035 As long as I get a holiday, you know. 1109 01:02:09,070 --> 01:02:11,175 There's never been so much energy as on this tour. 1110 01:03:10,131 --> 01:03:11,477 If the Stones broke up 1111 01:03:11,511 --> 01:03:13,306 I don't wanna start any rumors 'cause there aren't any 1112 01:03:13,341 --> 01:03:16,447 but if they did, say, next week after this tour 1113 01:03:16,482 --> 01:03:17,794 what would you do? 1114 01:03:20,866 --> 01:03:22,799 You know, I always tried to live a normal life 1115 01:03:22,833 --> 01:03:25,249 when I would finished recording or finished touring 1116 01:03:25,284 --> 01:03:28,149 or finished the concert or whatever it was 1117 01:03:28,183 --> 01:03:31,117 I'd go back and try to be normal. 1118 01:03:33,706 --> 01:03:36,674 We managed to build finances 1119 01:03:36,709 --> 01:03:39,919 and be able to pay our taxes and still have money. 1120 01:03:39,954 --> 01:03:42,301 And then, of course, it opened me 1121 01:03:42,335 --> 01:03:44,303 to a whole new life here. 1122 01:03:48,755 --> 01:03:51,689 [instrumental music] 1123 01:04:03,632 --> 01:04:05,703 You've got a lovely suntan. 1124 01:04:05,738 --> 01:04:08,085 This presumably is, uh, south of France suntan 1125 01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:09,915 because that's where you're living now, is it not? 1126 01:04:09,949 --> 01:04:11,468 Yeah, that's my French look. 1127 01:04:11,502 --> 01:04:13,677 What do you do when you're there apart from sunbathe? 1128 01:04:13,711 --> 01:04:16,369 In France, there are so many different people 1129 01:04:16,404 --> 01:04:18,233 to... to mix with 1130 01:04:18,268 --> 01:04:20,408 and, uh, I meet with quite a lot of them 1131 01:04:20,442 --> 01:04:23,204 and going to art exhibitions, all kinds of stuff. 1132 01:04:23,238 --> 01:04:24,861 It's really nice. 1133 01:04:26,276 --> 01:04:27,725 And I did meet Andre Verde 1134 01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,452 who was the one that introduced me to artists 1135 01:04:30,487 --> 01:04:32,730 and poets and writers and sculptors. 1136 01:04:48,954 --> 01:04:50,507 And you would go to the little dinners 1137 01:04:50,541 --> 01:04:52,716 in the local restaurants. 1138 01:04:52,750 --> 01:04:54,752 It became a lovely little family. 1139 01:05:00,724 --> 01:05:03,865 And then I met Jimmy Baldwin, fucking hell. 1140 01:05:03,900 --> 01:05:05,591 I met him at the Colombe d'Or. 1141 01:05:05,625 --> 01:05:06,903 I'd go to his house 1142 01:05:06,937 --> 01:05:09,767 and I realized how much he loved Ray Charles. 1143 01:05:09,802 --> 01:05:11,252 And I didn't know a lot about Ray Charles. 1144 01:05:11,286 --> 01:05:13,461 I'd seen a Ray Charles concert 1145 01:05:13,495 --> 01:05:16,153 with Keith and Charlie in '64 in England. 1146 01:05:16,188 --> 01:05:17,465 I said to Jimmy, "Can I borrow 1147 01:05:17,499 --> 01:05:18,880 some of your Ray Charles' records?" 1148 01:05:18,915 --> 01:05:20,192 He said, "Yeah." 1149 01:05:20,226 --> 01:05:22,642 He said, "I'll bring them up to your house." 1150 01:05:22,677 --> 01:05:24,403 And, God, over the next few days 1151 01:05:24,437 --> 01:05:26,715 I just played Ray Charles nonstop 1152 01:05:26,750 --> 01:05:31,099 and he became my favorite musician of the 20th century. 1153 01:05:33,067 --> 01:05:35,517 Then Andre Verde invited me 1154 01:05:35,552 --> 01:05:38,417 to go to Marc Chagall's house. 1155 01:05:38,451 --> 01:05:41,523 "You mean Marc Chagall, the painter?" 1156 01:05:41,558 --> 01:05:42,766 He said, "Yeah, yeah." 1157 01:05:44,216 --> 01:05:46,149 He was absolutely wonderful. 1158 01:05:48,151 --> 01:05:52,120 He said, "Your long hair, not original, change it." 1159 01:05:52,155 --> 01:05:54,329 I said, "But we were the first band with long hair." 1160 01:05:54,364 --> 01:05:57,332 He said, "Oh, that's okay then. Then you are the originals." 1161 01:05:57,367 --> 01:05:59,127 [chuckles] 1162 01:05:59,162 --> 01:06:01,958 I was friends with him for the last eight years of his life. 1163 01:06:04,374 --> 01:06:08,343 I got to know the... the simple way he lived. 1164 01:06:08,378 --> 01:06:10,518 You don't avoid all them little things. 1165 01:06:10,552 --> 01:06:13,210 They're all part of living, aren't they? 1166 01:06:13,245 --> 01:06:15,661 Of course, then you enjoy the bigger things better 1167 01:06:15,695 --> 01:06:17,663 if you deal with the little things. 1168 01:06:17,697 --> 01:06:19,147 [chopper whirring] 1169 01:06:19,182 --> 01:06:22,116 [crowd cheering] 1170 01:06:29,709 --> 01:06:32,678 [audience clapping] 1171 01:06:32,712 --> 01:06:35,646 [The Rolling Stones singing "Brown Sugar"] 1172 01:06:42,929 --> 01:06:44,793 So what's the purpose of doing the tour? 1173 01:06:44,828 --> 01:06:46,761 Oh, I got fed up with gardening. 1174 01:06:54,838 --> 01:06:58,048 Oh, man, the Rolling Stones are just it, you know. 1175 01:06:58,083 --> 01:07:00,016 What do you mean? 1176 01:07:00,050 --> 01:07:02,294 They're the greatest rock and roll band in the world. 1177 01:07:02,328 --> 01:07:05,883 ♪ Gold Coast slave ship bound for cotton fields ♪ 1178 01:07:05,918 --> 01:07:09,542 ♪ Sold in the market down in New Orleans ♪ 1179 01:07:09,577 --> 01:07:13,477 ♪ Scarred old slaver knows he's doin' alright ♪ 1180 01:07:13,512 --> 01:07:17,516 ♪ Hear him whip the women just around midnight ♪ 1181 01:07:19,863 --> 01:07:24,143 ♪ Brown sugar how come you taste so good? ♪ 1182 01:07:27,250 --> 01:07:28,734 ♪ Brown sugar ♪ 1183 01:07:28,768 --> 01:07:31,530 ♪ Just like a good boy should ♪ 1184 01:07:31,564 --> 01:07:35,120 ♪ Yeah yeah yeah woo ♪ 1185 01:07:35,154 --> 01:07:38,054 ♪ Just like a just like a black boy should ♪ 1186 01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:46,614 [fireworks] 1187 01:07:55,071 --> 01:07:58,039 On a personal sense, Bill, is it difficult 1188 01:07:58,074 --> 01:08:01,215 in... in some respects being a Rolling Stone 1189 01:08:01,249 --> 01:08:03,044 in terms of... of the pressure that... 1190 01:08:03,079 --> 01:08:05,115 That's difficult for a start, but carry on. 1191 01:08:05,150 --> 01:08:06,841 In terms of the pressure in the sense 1192 01:08:06,875 --> 01:08:09,257 that that brings on you as an individual? 1193 01:08:15,298 --> 01:08:17,783 There's a lot of difficulties, uh.. 1194 01:08:17,817 --> 01:08:20,199 I think the main difficulty in being a Rolling Stone 1195 01:08:20,234 --> 01:08:23,202 is to pursue your other interests. 1196 01:08:23,237 --> 01:08:26,102 [Bill Wyman singing "Monkey Grip"] 1197 01:08:26,136 --> 01:08:28,897 I did the first solo album of a Stone in '73 1198 01:08:28,932 --> 01:08:30,658 called Monkey Grip. 1199 01:08:42,187 --> 01:08:45,638 ♪ Good old monkey grip monkey grip ♪ 1200 01:08:45,673 --> 01:08:47,364 ♪ Monkey grip monkey grip ♪ 1201 01:08:49,021 --> 01:08:51,886 I was regarded as bass player of the Rolling Stones. 1202 01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:53,991 I was not expected to be anything else 1203 01:08:54,026 --> 01:08:55,372 or to do anything else. 1204 01:08:56,891 --> 01:08:58,720 You really had to go out there 1205 01:08:58,755 --> 01:09:00,688 and try to prove yourself. 1206 01:09:03,829 --> 01:09:05,934 You did an album back in '74 with Buddy Guy 1207 01:09:05,969 --> 01:09:07,419 uh, Buddy Guy and Junior Wells 1208 01:09:07,453 --> 01:09:11,008 who were two of the original Chicago Blues Brothers. 1209 01:09:11,043 --> 01:09:14,288 I was just asked to get a rhythm section together 1210 01:09:14,322 --> 01:09:16,462 to play with them at the Montreux Jazz Festival 1211 01:09:16,497 --> 01:09:17,981 in Switzerland. 1212 01:09:20,535 --> 01:09:23,089 I got this phone call from Claude Nobbs. 1213 01:09:23,124 --> 01:09:24,401 He said, "I'd like to invite you 1214 01:09:24,436 --> 01:09:26,023 "to the Montreux Jazz Festival 1215 01:09:26,058 --> 01:09:27,232 "because I've got Muddy Waters 1216 01:09:27,266 --> 01:09:28,612 "and he hasn't got a band or anything. 1217 01:09:28,647 --> 01:09:29,924 "Do you think you could put 1218 01:09:29,958 --> 01:09:31,615 a little rhythm section together?" 1219 01:09:31,650 --> 01:09:34,480 We just loaded up, and I drove to Switzerland. 1220 01:09:35,654 --> 01:09:37,414 ♪ Gonna make pretty women ♪ 1221 01:09:39,761 --> 01:09:41,556 ♪ Jump and shout ♪ 1222 01:09:43,558 --> 01:09:45,491 ♪ Then the world wanna know ♪ 1223 01:09:46,975 --> 01:09:49,219 ♪ What's this all about ♪ 1224 01:09:49,254 --> 01:09:51,497 ♪ But they'll know I'm here ♪ 1225 01:09:55,536 --> 01:09:58,470 ♪ Everybody knows I'm here ♪ 1226 01:10:00,713 --> 01:10:03,544 Buddy Guy and Junior Wells are sittin' on the side 1227 01:10:03,578 --> 01:10:08,031 listenin' to us and Buddy says, "Can you be our support band?" 1228 01:10:08,065 --> 01:10:09,550 I said, "Yeah, yeah." 1229 01:10:09,584 --> 01:10:13,726 ♪ The thing that I think I would do ♪ 1230 01:10:15,728 --> 01:10:19,387 ♪ Ooh no one will never know ♪ 1231 01:10:36,956 --> 01:10:39,165 We went there to back up Muddy Waters. 1232 01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:42,962 So I needed that bass player to fill every missed note 1233 01:10:42,997 --> 01:10:44,481 which I still do. 1234 01:10:44,516 --> 01:10:48,278 Every note I missed, I wanted him to... fill in for me 1235 01:10:48,313 --> 01:10:51,592 'cause I was missin' a lot of notes back then. 1236 01:10:51,626 --> 01:10:56,286 Somebody like him can get the word out faster than I can. 1237 01:10:56,321 --> 01:10:58,254 People still look at those guys 1238 01:10:58,288 --> 01:11:02,292 as the greatest rock and roll band that ever played. 1239 01:11:02,327 --> 01:11:04,260 [cheering] 1240 01:11:07,090 --> 01:11:10,024 [instrumental music] 1241 01:11:13,199 --> 01:11:16,064 Glyn Johns rings up and says, "Bill, are you interested 1242 01:11:16,099 --> 01:11:18,135 in doing a session tomorrow for me?" 1243 01:11:18,170 --> 01:11:20,621 He says, "I need you to play with Howlin' Wolf." 1244 01:11:20,655 --> 01:11:23,382 I went, "What? Howlin' Wolf? 1245 01:11:23,417 --> 01:11:25,073 Bloody hell, put me in. Who else is on?" 1246 01:11:25,108 --> 01:11:26,454 And he says, "Well, I've got Charlie." 1247 01:11:26,489 --> 01:11:28,284 And I thought, "Oh, fantastic." 1248 01:11:28,318 --> 01:11:31,632 "And Eric Clapton. It will be the three of you." 1249 01:11:31,666 --> 01:11:34,876 I went, "Oh, God almighty. I'd love it, yes." 1250 01:11:34,911 --> 01:11:37,189 ♪ Well I got a little red rooster ♪ 1251 01:11:38,501 --> 01:11:42,988 ♪ Too lazy to crow for day ♪ 1252 01:11:43,022 --> 01:11:45,301 And so I went down the next day 1253 01:11:45,335 --> 01:11:49,132 met up with everybody and said hello to Wolf. 1254 01:11:49,166 --> 01:11:52,515 Bloody hell. I was saying hello to my hero. 1255 01:11:52,549 --> 01:11:55,069 Alright, let... let everybody get together then 1256 01:11:55,103 --> 01:11:56,346 and we'll try to make it. 1257 01:11:56,381 --> 01:11:59,176 Wolf had a voice that, uh, nobody else had. 1258 01:11:59,211 --> 01:12:02,352 Oh, man, come on, he.. 1259 01:12:02,387 --> 01:12:04,285 He ain't got nothin' to do but count off. 1260 01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,252 Alright, let's get on it. 1261 01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:11,982 It was wonderful to do it with Wolf and meet his family. 1262 01:12:12,017 --> 01:12:14,191 He was a lovely man, he was so gentle. 1263 01:12:14,226 --> 01:12:15,538 He was this gentle giant. 1264 01:12:15,572 --> 01:12:18,886 He was terrifying to look at and to be around. 1265 01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:20,991 Those moments are there to be caught. 1266 01:12:21,026 --> 01:12:23,891 But you're bloody lucky most times if you catch 'em. 1267 01:12:25,824 --> 01:12:28,827 ♪ Too lazy to crow for day ♪ 1268 01:12:38,975 --> 01:12:40,701 We got the message from the office 1269 01:12:40,735 --> 01:12:43,289 that Mick Taylor said I've left. 1270 01:12:43,324 --> 01:12:46,016 Fuck, now we were just gonna start recording. 1271 01:12:46,051 --> 01:12:48,260 We haven't got a fucking guitar player, you know. 1272 01:12:50,331 --> 01:12:51,850 Tune up room session. 1273 01:12:51,884 --> 01:12:53,369 Ah! 1274 01:12:53,403 --> 01:12:54,818 [The Rolling Stones singing "Star Star"] 1275 01:12:56,441 --> 01:13:00,514 ♪ Baby baby I've been so sad ♪ 1276 01:13:00,548 --> 01:13:05,139 It finally came down to trying to borrow Woody for the tour. 1277 01:13:05,173 --> 01:13:06,658 Borrowing him from the Faces. 1278 01:13:06,692 --> 01:13:08,591 ♪ Where you do belong ♪ 1279 01:13:08,625 --> 01:13:11,594 He was a nice catalyst between me and Charlie 1280 01:13:11,628 --> 01:13:13,803 and Keith and Mick. 1281 01:13:13,837 --> 01:13:17,462 Ronnie was like the clown that sort of linked it all together. 1282 01:13:17,496 --> 01:13:19,740 ♪ If I ever get back to Fun City ♪ 1283 01:13:19,774 --> 01:13:23,433 ♪ Girl I'm gonna make you scream all night ♪ 1284 01:13:24,883 --> 01:13:26,747 What is it after so many years of touring 1285 01:13:26,781 --> 01:13:28,852 that... that keeps you going? 1286 01:13:33,063 --> 01:13:35,514 I don't know. Just playing together. 1287 01:13:35,549 --> 01:13:38,517 All... all the memories and all the places, the people. 1288 01:13:38,552 --> 01:13:40,485 Uh, I can't... I can't explain it. 1289 01:13:40,519 --> 01:13:42,038 It's just good to get on the stage 1290 01:13:42,072 --> 01:13:44,316 and play in front of people who wanna listen to you. 1291 01:13:44,350 --> 01:13:47,284 [singing "When The Whip Comes Down"] 1292 01:14:18,074 --> 01:14:21,008 ♪ Mama and papa told me I was crazy to stay ♪ 1293 01:14:21,042 --> 01:14:23,597 ♪ I was a fag in New York I was gay ♪ 1294 01:14:23,631 --> 01:14:28,153 In July '78, I tripped on some cables 1295 01:14:28,187 --> 01:14:31,018 and fell about 6 or 7 feet with my guitar 1296 01:14:31,052 --> 01:14:32,537 and was knocked out. 1297 01:14:32,571 --> 01:14:34,366 Everybody else had gone 1298 01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,369 and then suddenly realized that I was nowhere around. 1299 01:14:37,403 --> 01:14:39,613 So people came back and just saw my silver boots 1300 01:14:39,647 --> 01:14:42,236 stickin' out through the curtain. 1301 01:14:42,270 --> 01:14:45,550 And for the rest of that tour, I had to play 1302 01:14:45,584 --> 01:14:48,691 with two central fingers strapped up. 1303 01:15:01,151 --> 01:15:03,602 '81, we toured America. 1304 01:15:03,637 --> 01:15:05,570 Massive tour of America, it was wonderful. 1305 01:15:05,604 --> 01:15:08,262 [crowd cheering] 1306 01:15:08,296 --> 01:15:11,230 [The Rolling Stones singing "Miss You"] 1307 01:15:19,031 --> 01:15:21,275 '82, we toured Europe. 1308 01:15:21,309 --> 01:15:24,899 Same thing. Also massive and wonderful. 1309 01:15:24,934 --> 01:15:27,074 ♪ I've been holding out so long ♪ 1310 01:15:27,108 --> 01:15:29,386 ♪ I've been sleeping all alone ♪ 1311 01:15:29,421 --> 01:15:30,974 ♪ Girl I miss you ♪ 1312 01:15:37,912 --> 01:15:40,225 And then nothing happened. 1313 01:15:40,259 --> 01:15:41,571 Mick and Keith started arguing 1314 01:15:41,606 --> 01:15:43,918 and fighting about God knows what. 1315 01:15:43,953 --> 01:15:46,231 We never played a gig for seven years. 1316 01:15:46,265 --> 01:15:49,924 In the meantime, I started to look out for myself. 1317 01:15:49,959 --> 01:15:52,893 [instrumental "Je Suis Un Rock Star"] 1318 01:16:16,848 --> 01:16:19,816 Great, let's break and, uh, have some tea 1319 01:16:19,851 --> 01:16:22,129 and then we'll come up and listen to it again all the way through, shall we? 1320 01:16:22,163 --> 01:16:24,027 That's good. That sounds really good to me. 1321 01:16:25,615 --> 01:16:28,860 Everybody wants to do a solo album, but not seriously. 1322 01:16:28,894 --> 01:16:31,932 So I sat down and, uh, started writin'. 1323 01:16:31,966 --> 01:16:33,692 I... I made up little cassettes at home 1324 01:16:33,727 --> 01:16:36,005 on this terrible little tape recorder I've got 1325 01:16:36,039 --> 01:16:39,491 not a ReVox or anything sophisticated. 1326 01:16:39,525 --> 01:16:42,045 When I did "Je Suis Un Rock Star," everything went crazy. 1327 01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:44,082 ♪ Je suis un rock star ♪ 1328 01:16:44,116 --> 01:16:46,153 ♪ Je avais un residence ♪ 1329 01:16:46,187 --> 01:16:48,569 ♪ Je habiter la ♪ 1330 01:16:48,604 --> 01:16:50,778 ♪ A la south of France ♪ 1331 01:16:50,813 --> 01:16:52,918 ♪ Voulez vous ♪ 1332 01:16:52,953 --> 01:16:54,644 ♪ Partir with me? ♪ 1333 01:16:54,679 --> 01:16:58,165 ♪ And come and rester la with me in France ♪ 1334 01:17:00,754 --> 01:17:03,273 Playing the single now. 1335 01:17:03,308 --> 01:17:06,794 That is Bill Wyman, "Si, Si, Chay Suis Un Rock Star." 1336 01:17:06,829 --> 01:17:08,313 Am I saying that right, Bill? 1337 01:17:08,347 --> 01:17:11,730 "Je Suis Un Rock Star." I am a rock star, yeah. 1338 01:17:11,765 --> 01:17:16,148 I don't believe it. I mean, I'm not serious. 1339 01:17:16,183 --> 01:17:18,806 Currently in Europe, your single is, uh 1340 01:17:18,841 --> 01:17:21,291 in the top ten, right? In... In England? 1341 01:17:21,326 --> 01:17:23,673 Yeah, it's gone top 15 in every country so far 1342 01:17:23,708 --> 01:17:25,123 and I'm really pleased with it. 1343 01:17:25,157 --> 01:17:29,058 I'm very naively excited about having a hit record 1344 01:17:29,092 --> 01:17:31,612 just like I was in '63 with the Stones. 1345 01:17:31,647 --> 01:17:33,787 It's... it's like Christmas. 1346 01:17:33,821 --> 01:17:36,686 ♪ Je avais un residence ♪ 1347 01:17:36,721 --> 01:17:38,274 Tell me, Bill, is it different 1348 01:17:38,308 --> 01:17:39,931 when a superstar goes to the men's room 1349 01:17:39,965 --> 01:17:42,105 than for your average ordinary person? 1350 01:17:42,140 --> 01:17:44,487 Um, yeah. 1351 01:17:44,521 --> 01:17:46,592 What's the difference? 1352 01:17:46,627 --> 01:17:48,871 - You have a super pee. - Super pee. 1353 01:17:50,838 --> 01:17:52,771 [instrumental music] 1354 01:17:55,429 --> 01:17:57,880 Everybody thought that our life was so romantic 1355 01:17:57,914 --> 01:17:59,675 and wonderful and exciting and all that. 1356 01:17:59,709 --> 01:18:02,712 It was for two hours, if you were on stage. 1357 01:18:02,747 --> 01:18:05,094 The rest of the time was boredom. 1358 01:18:10,893 --> 01:18:14,828 It's very difficult to keep your sanity, actually. 1359 01:18:18,038 --> 01:18:19,625 You moved away from all your friends. 1360 01:18:19,660 --> 01:18:20,799 You were always traveling. 1361 01:18:20,834 --> 01:18:22,698 You're always on the road, you know. 1362 01:18:22,732 --> 01:18:24,734 So it's forever changin'. 1363 01:18:24,769 --> 01:18:27,357 Nothing's kind of permanent. 1364 01:18:34,675 --> 01:18:36,677 There was no time. 1365 01:18:36,712 --> 01:18:38,541 I mean, you looked around suddenly 1366 01:18:38,575 --> 01:18:42,614 and you hadn't seen your cousin Peter for two years 1367 01:18:42,648 --> 01:18:45,997 and even brothers and sisters you almost lose touch with 1368 01:18:46,031 --> 01:18:48,378 because you're... you're livin' in a different world. 1369 01:19:01,253 --> 01:19:04,532 I got this invite to go to this event 1370 01:19:04,567 --> 01:19:07,397 and there was all these people dancing in the front. 1371 01:19:09,710 --> 01:19:13,093 I saw this beautiful girl with her hair up. 1372 01:19:13,127 --> 01:19:16,337 I spoke to her and found her name was Mandy Smith. 1373 01:19:21,791 --> 01:19:24,380 It was from the heart. It wasn't from, like, lust 1374 01:19:24,414 --> 01:19:27,555 or anything like that which people was seeing it as. 1375 01:19:35,805 --> 01:19:38,290 [indistinct chatter] 1376 01:19:38,325 --> 01:19:41,052 Bill, were you in any way, were you in any way hesitant 1377 01:19:41,086 --> 01:19:44,055 having been a bachelor boy for so long 1378 01:19:44,089 --> 01:19:45,746 or free... free spirit for so long 1379 01:19:45,781 --> 01:19:47,334 were you very hesitant about 1380 01:19:47,368 --> 01:19:49,992 taking the months of marriage again? 1381 01:19:50,026 --> 01:19:51,545 No, I always thought she was the right girl 1382 01:19:51,579 --> 01:19:53,961 from the moment I met her, but it was just the wrong time. 1383 01:19:53,996 --> 01:19:55,583 She was too young. 1384 01:19:55,618 --> 01:19:58,655 I thought she had to go out and see life a bit 1385 01:19:58,690 --> 01:20:00,899 before she could make that kind of a decision. 1386 01:20:00,934 --> 01:20:03,281 He is the rebel Rolling Stone 1387 01:20:03,315 --> 01:20:05,145 but their wedding blessing today 1388 01:20:05,179 --> 01:20:07,388 could not have been more traditional. 1389 01:20:07,423 --> 01:20:09,494 They both said they wouldn't feel married 1390 01:20:09,528 --> 01:20:11,841 without the formalities of a church service. 1391 01:20:11,876 --> 01:20:15,017 And those they had, right down to the confettis. 1392 01:20:17,157 --> 01:20:18,744 When we first met each other, actually. 1393 01:20:18,779 --> 01:20:21,092 When, like, years ago, we wanted to get married 1394 01:20:21,126 --> 01:20:22,956 but obviously we couldn't. 1395 01:20:22,990 --> 01:20:24,854 The things work out in the end if they're right 1396 01:20:24,889 --> 01:20:26,856 and we always thought it was right since the beginning 1397 01:20:26,891 --> 01:20:28,824 and, uh, here we are. 1398 01:20:33,380 --> 01:20:37,142 I was really stupid to ever think it could possibly work. 1399 01:20:41,388 --> 01:20:44,598 Two sad marriages, really 1400 01:20:44,632 --> 01:20:47,635 and I decided it was time I got my fucking life in order. 1401 01:20:56,748 --> 01:21:01,822 Five, four, three, two, one. 1402 01:21:01,857 --> 01:21:03,582 Fire. 1403 01:21:03,617 --> 01:21:04,963 [crowd cheering] 1404 01:21:04,998 --> 01:21:07,621 ♪ Start me up ♪ 1405 01:21:07,655 --> 01:21:09,174 ♪ If you start me up I'll never stop ♪ 1406 01:21:09,209 --> 01:21:12,350 We hadn't played one show from '82 to '89. 1407 01:21:12,384 --> 01:21:14,179 So it was a coming together again 1408 01:21:14,214 --> 01:21:16,768 but I saw it as a grand finale. 1409 01:21:18,252 --> 01:21:20,116 We did five Wembley Stadiums 1410 01:21:20,151 --> 01:21:22,808 we did six Shea Stadiums in New York. 1411 01:21:25,811 --> 01:21:27,813 We went to Japan for the first time. 1412 01:21:27,848 --> 01:21:30,886 We played the Tokyo Dome, 45,000 people 1413 01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:33,405 ten shows one after the other. 1414 01:21:33,440 --> 01:21:35,614 It was fantastic. 1415 01:21:35,649 --> 01:21:38,583 [whistling] 1416 01:21:43,450 --> 01:21:45,038 ♪ I can't get no ♪ 1417 01:21:47,385 --> 01:21:50,077 In Prague, we played to 130,000 people 1418 01:21:50,112 --> 01:21:54,185 because they came from Poland and Hungary and Czechoslovakia. 1419 01:21:54,219 --> 01:21:56,394 All in all, those three tours 1420 01:21:56,428 --> 01:21:58,775 we played 120 shows 1421 01:21:58,810 --> 01:22:02,227 seven and a quarter million people. 1422 01:22:02,262 --> 01:22:03,988 It was extraordinary. 1423 01:22:04,022 --> 01:22:07,957 ♪ Supposed to fire my imagination ♪ 1424 01:22:07,992 --> 01:22:09,925 ♪ I can't get no ♪ 1425 01:22:11,305 --> 01:22:13,549 We finished that tour. 1426 01:22:13,583 --> 01:22:15,206 I just sat back 1427 01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:18,105 and I thought this is a nice time to end my career 1428 01:22:18,140 --> 01:22:20,797 with the Rolling Stones, on a big high. 1429 01:22:25,423 --> 01:22:26,976 So I left. 1430 01:22:27,011 --> 01:22:28,944 [instrumental music] 1431 01:22:30,876 --> 01:22:33,086 All those 31 years with the band 1432 01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:35,812 I... I absolutely loved what we did 1433 01:22:35,847 --> 01:22:38,332 loved what we achieved. 1434 01:22:38,367 --> 01:22:43,510 But I needed to sort out my personal life and my future. 1435 01:23:07,983 --> 01:23:10,226 There's a very happy bird up there. 1436 01:23:10,261 --> 01:23:11,469 [chuckles] 1437 01:23:33,594 --> 01:23:36,390 [instrumental music] 1438 01:23:36,425 --> 01:23:37,667 It's fantastic. 1439 01:23:44,433 --> 01:23:46,366 They're really cute little butterflies. 1440 01:23:48,368 --> 01:23:52,096 ♪ Love is such a wonderful thing ♪ 1441 01:23:52,130 --> 01:23:55,409 ♪ When you need it ♪ 1442 01:23:55,444 --> 01:23:57,653 ♪ Look around for it ♪ 1443 01:23:57,687 --> 01:24:00,863 ♪ Love is such a wonderful thing ♪ 1444 01:24:00,897 --> 01:24:02,451 Go on, you go. 1445 01:24:02,485 --> 01:24:04,556 You've got a better memory than me on those days. 1446 01:24:04,591 --> 01:24:06,800 - Oh, yeah. Why? - The romantic moments. 1447 01:24:06,834 --> 01:24:08,871 Yeah, why do you forget all the romantic moments? 1448 01:24:08,905 --> 01:24:10,597 I do. I... I remember all the other stuff. 1449 01:24:10,631 --> 01:24:12,909 You remember all the facts, but you forget all the romantic moments. 1450 01:24:12,944 --> 01:24:14,083 Yeah. 1451 01:24:14,118 --> 01:24:16,741 Suzanne and I met in 1979 1452 01:24:16,775 --> 01:24:21,608 and she became the inspiration for "Je Suis Un Rock Star." 1453 01:24:21,642 --> 01:24:24,542 - Can you see me in there? - Can you say famous? 1454 01:24:24,576 --> 01:24:25,543 - Yeah. - Yeah. 1455 01:24:25,577 --> 01:24:26,716 Hi. 1456 01:24:28,580 --> 01:24:30,410 We are cliche. 1457 01:24:30,444 --> 01:24:33,378 I was a model, he was a musician. 1458 01:24:33,413 --> 01:24:36,140 He was with a photographer, I was quite bored at the party 1459 01:24:36,174 --> 01:24:39,971 and I thought I should probably go up and talk to this photographer. 1460 01:24:40,005 --> 01:24:42,870 And Bill started to chat me up 1461 01:24:42,905 --> 01:24:45,390 and I started to... to talk about music 1462 01:24:45,425 --> 01:24:48,255 askin' him why he was so interested in music. 1463 01:24:48,290 --> 01:24:50,913 And I felt kind of bad that I didn't recognize him. 1464 01:24:55,366 --> 01:24:57,022 And that's Matilda. 1465 01:24:58,334 --> 01:24:59,991 We got you. 1466 01:25:00,025 --> 01:25:02,027 Can we use your paintbrushes? 1467 01:25:02,062 --> 01:25:03,995 I guess so. It's a bit late now, isn't it? 1468 01:25:08,793 --> 01:25:11,554 Oh, we'll have to get these eggs. 1469 01:25:11,589 --> 01:25:16,111 When we decided to get married, it was to have a family. 1470 01:25:16,145 --> 01:25:18,078 He wanted to start life over again. 1471 01:25:19,355 --> 01:25:21,461 He just wanted to have a normal life. 1472 01:25:21,495 --> 01:25:24,636 He wanted to be able to walk down the street 1473 01:25:24,671 --> 01:25:27,467 and be able to go to a movie theater 1474 01:25:27,501 --> 01:25:28,882 without being bothered. 1475 01:25:28,916 --> 01:25:30,746 He just wanted to know what that felt like. 1476 01:25:30,780 --> 01:25:32,989 Yeah, so.. Shh. 1477 01:25:33,024 --> 01:25:34,957 [laughs] 1478 01:25:41,205 --> 01:25:45,036 When we got married and when we had the kids 1479 01:25:45,070 --> 01:25:47,797 it gave him time. 1480 01:25:47,832 --> 01:25:50,179 I think time is his foundation 1481 01:25:50,214 --> 01:25:52,112 and he wants to use all this time 1482 01:25:52,147 --> 01:25:54,149 in a very productive way. 1483 01:25:56,979 --> 01:25:59,326 He just has this need 1484 01:25:59,361 --> 01:26:04,297 to almost relive what he experienced 1485 01:26:04,331 --> 01:26:07,231 and put it in some sort of order 1486 01:26:07,265 --> 01:26:10,717 and find out who he really was and what he'd gone through. 1487 01:26:20,485 --> 01:26:24,179 So he started to dig out the old boxes 1488 01:26:24,213 --> 01:26:26,215 scannin' things.. 1489 01:26:27,872 --> 01:26:29,908 ...and really started to look at it 1490 01:26:29,943 --> 01:26:32,739 as a life's work ahead of him 1491 01:26:32,773 --> 01:26:35,776 that he had to complete. 1492 01:26:35,811 --> 01:26:38,883 I think when he works on the archive, it inspires him. 1493 01:26:38,917 --> 01:26:41,126 It's almost like he has a treasure 1494 01:26:41,161 --> 01:26:43,888 and he wants to share it with someone else. 1495 01:26:52,379 --> 01:26:55,313 [instrumental music] 1496 01:26:59,973 --> 01:27:02,078 And I decided to play music again. 1497 01:27:02,113 --> 01:27:04,046 [blues music] 1498 01:27:07,291 --> 01:27:09,707 Forming the Rhythm Kings enabled me to play 1499 01:27:09,741 --> 01:27:12,675 with a whole variety of wonderful musicians 1500 01:27:12,710 --> 01:27:16,058 and dig into the roots of... of music 1501 01:27:16,092 --> 01:27:18,854 finding a lot of early stuff 1502 01:27:18,888 --> 01:27:21,857 which had been forgotten about and reviving it. 1503 01:27:21,891 --> 01:27:24,825 [blues music] 1504 01:27:45,052 --> 01:27:46,916 Do you mind, sir, putting that down? 1505 01:27:46,951 --> 01:27:48,608 We can't have that going on here. 1506 01:27:49,988 --> 01:27:52,922 [instrumental music] 1507 01:27:57,927 --> 01:27:59,204 [indistinct chatter] 1508 01:28:00,861 --> 01:28:05,072 The atmosphere on the bus, it's like, uh, it's a family. 1509 01:28:05,107 --> 01:28:07,005 He likes being around players. 1510 01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:09,353 He likes the jokes. 1511 01:28:09,387 --> 01:28:12,010 All his life, he's been a working player. 1512 01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:30,443 Bill is the kind of artist who wants to do the music 1513 01:28:30,477 --> 01:28:31,892 but he doesn't necessarily have to have 1514 01:28:31,927 --> 01:28:33,825 all the adulation for it. 1515 01:28:33,860 --> 01:28:36,518 He's playing his music for himself. 1516 01:28:39,624 --> 01:28:43,973 You have to have that courage to take that other road 1517 01:28:44,008 --> 01:28:45,458 to be yourself, to find yourself 1518 01:28:45,492 --> 01:28:48,184 because you can get lost in this road to stardom. 1519 01:28:48,219 --> 01:28:50,325 I mean, you really can, and that's all you have 1520 01:28:50,359 --> 01:28:53,224 and then maybe at the end of your life, you're like 1521 01:28:53,258 --> 01:28:56,331 "Wow, I wish I had, you know, taken a few moments 1522 01:28:56,365 --> 01:28:58,988 to stop and smell the roses." 1523 01:28:59,023 --> 01:29:00,818 And I don't think that Bill will ever say that. 1524 01:29:00,852 --> 01:29:04,822 I think he has been able to not only smell them but name them. 1525 01:29:04,856 --> 01:29:06,548 [chuckles] 1526 01:29:16,420 --> 01:29:19,181 To have gone through that life experience 1527 01:29:19,215 --> 01:29:24,359 and still be very rooted, really the child of the 1940s 1528 01:29:24,393 --> 01:29:26,775 I mean, you're looking at old England with this guy. 1529 01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:31,435 People only really get bothered by fame 1530 01:29:31,469 --> 01:29:34,817 or it disturbs them is when they start acting famous. 1531 01:29:34,852 --> 01:29:37,130 I don't think Bill ever started acting famous. 1532 01:29:42,756 --> 01:29:45,103 I can get by on things we do 1533 01:29:45,138 --> 01:29:47,865 and, uh, some better than average 1534 01:29:47,899 --> 01:29:50,143 better than some and worse than some. 1535 01:29:50,177 --> 01:29:51,869 But, uh, you can always learn 1536 01:29:51,903 --> 01:29:55,010 and you never become as good as you'd like to. 1537 01:29:55,044 --> 01:29:57,806 I don't think, no matter what you play. 1538 01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:00,429 [Ray Charles singing "Georgia On My Mind"] 1539 01:30:00,464 --> 01:30:04,916 ♪ Georgia Georgia ♪ 1540 01:30:04,951 --> 01:30:07,402 Ray Charles was playing at the South Bank. 1541 01:30:07,436 --> 01:30:10,335 And halfway through the concert, Ray Charles decides to do 1542 01:30:10,370 --> 01:30:12,441 "Georgia On My Mind" on the piano 1543 01:30:12,476 --> 01:30:15,548 and he dismisses the band and the Raylettes and everyone 1544 01:30:15,582 --> 01:30:19,310 and he's by himself on the stage, and he starts.. 1545 01:30:19,344 --> 01:30:22,865 ♪ Georgia da da da Georgia ♪ 1546 01:30:22,900 --> 01:30:25,454 And it was so emotional. 1547 01:30:25,489 --> 01:30:30,355 The whole audience, 4000 people in tears. 1548 01:30:30,390 --> 01:30:31,840 With Ray Charles, and I thought 1549 01:30:31,874 --> 01:30:34,601 "No one, no one 1550 01:30:34,636 --> 01:30:37,742 gets an audience like that, you know, except him." 1551 01:30:37,777 --> 01:30:42,506 It was amazing. And, uh, anyway, the concert finished. 1552 01:30:42,540 --> 01:30:45,094 See, I get emotional because it was so fantastic. 1553 01:30:46,544 --> 01:30:49,271 It finished, and the people, and my friends said 1554 01:30:49,305 --> 01:30:52,136 "Can we go backstage and meet him?" And I went.. 1555 01:30:52,170 --> 01:30:53,517 [clicks tongue] 1556 01:30:53,551 --> 01:30:55,588 I said, "Musicians, they don't really like people 1557 01:30:55,622 --> 01:30:57,486 "coming backstage when they've just come offstage. 1558 01:30:57,521 --> 01:30:59,695 "They're exhausted, and they're tired, and they're sweaty 1559 01:30:59,730 --> 01:31:02,698 and they just wanna have a break and all that." 1560 01:31:02,733 --> 01:31:04,528 So I said, "No, I'd rather not." 1561 01:31:04,562 --> 01:31:07,151 They said, "Alright, but just stay here until the audience go 1562 01:31:07,185 --> 01:31:10,016 and then we can go quieter out." 1563 01:31:10,050 --> 01:31:12,639 While we were waiting there, someone came 1564 01:31:12,674 --> 01:31:15,849 from backstage, and they came over and said, um 1565 01:31:15,884 --> 01:31:18,921 "Mr. Charles knows you're here and he wants to invite you." 1566 01:31:20,544 --> 01:31:23,167 Because you admire him more than any other musician 1567 01:31:23,201 --> 01:31:24,858 don't you, yeah? 1568 01:31:24,893 --> 01:31:27,067 [chuckles] 1569 01:31:27,102 --> 01:31:28,172 [clears throat] 1570 01:31:29,725 --> 01:31:33,108 You know, it was, it was a fantastic moment. 1571 01:31:37,699 --> 01:31:39,632 - Just wait a minute. - It's okay. 1572 01:31:41,496 --> 01:31:43,463 Ah! Leave it a minute. 1573 01:31:44,706 --> 01:31:46,259 [clears throat] So.. 1574 01:31:47,743 --> 01:31:49,193 Yeah, he, uh.. 1575 01:31:53,162 --> 01:31:56,580 We went backstage and met him. 1576 01:32:00,169 --> 01:32:03,414 He was... fantastic. 1577 01:32:05,761 --> 01:32:08,281 - I can't do it, sorry. - Anyhow, they asked him.. 1578 01:32:08,315 --> 01:32:12,837 Ray Charles asked him if he would play on his next album and... 1579 01:32:12,872 --> 01:32:15,081 - And I chickened out. - He just said how could I... 1580 01:32:15,115 --> 01:32:17,186 I said, "I'm not good enough." 1581 01:32:17,221 --> 01:32:19,464 That's what he.. Yeah. 1582 01:32:21,087 --> 01:32:22,985 You just, well, you didn't say it to his face... 1583 01:32:23,020 --> 01:32:24,297 - I did. - Did you really? 1584 01:32:24,331 --> 01:32:25,298 - Yeah. - Oh, my God. 1585 01:32:25,332 --> 01:32:26,610 I didn't know that. 1586 01:32:26,644 --> 01:32:28,094 - Yeah. - And what did he say? 1587 01:32:28,128 --> 01:32:31,891 He was, we... we spent half an hour in his dressing room. 1588 01:32:31,925 --> 01:32:33,962 He's absolutely fantastic. 1589 01:32:35,446 --> 01:32:36,758 And then he said that. 1590 01:32:38,104 --> 01:32:39,657 He said, "Would you like to play on my next album?" 1591 01:32:39,692 --> 01:32:42,971 I said, "I'm not good enough." 1592 01:32:44,731 --> 01:32:47,665 ♪ Just an old sweet song ♪ 1593 01:32:50,150 --> 01:32:53,637 ♪ Keeps Georgia on my mind ♪ 1594 01:32:53,671 --> 01:32:55,742 Almost every bass player I've ever met 1595 01:32:55,777 --> 01:32:59,539 is always a big guy with huge hands. 1596 01:32:59,574 --> 01:33:01,437 When I was a little boy, you know 1597 01:33:01,472 --> 01:33:04,406 all my heroes were the little guys. 1598 01:33:04,440 --> 01:33:06,615 I think there's something about being the little guy 1599 01:33:06,650 --> 01:33:09,514 you always wanna prove that you can still do it 1600 01:33:09,549 --> 01:33:11,758 against the big guys 1601 01:33:11,793 --> 01:33:13,967 and that's the drive. 1602 01:33:14,002 --> 01:33:16,418 And it's been my drive all my life. 1603 01:33:16,452 --> 01:33:19,386 [instrumental music] 1604 01:33:21,561 --> 01:33:23,598 You make your own way, don't you? 1605 01:33:25,945 --> 01:33:29,431 You just head in directions that you think are good at the time. 1606 01:33:38,647 --> 01:33:40,166 Something magical happened. 1607 01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:43,307 Something unusual. Something rare. 1608 01:33:46,413 --> 01:33:49,865 Which shouldn't have really happened to a working-class boy 1609 01:33:49,900 --> 01:33:53,213 from South London, and it's bizarre. 1610 01:33:53,248 --> 01:33:55,181 It's a bizarre life I've had. 1611 01:34:00,186 --> 01:34:04,466 Bill Wyman. I play bass... guitar. 1612 01:34:18,411 --> 01:34:20,378 I think we're done here, aren't we? 1613 01:34:31,700 --> 01:34:34,634 [Rhythm Kings singing "Tell You A Secret"] 1614 01:34:49,614 --> 01:34:51,547 ♪ Tell you a secret ♪ 1615 01:34:51,582 --> 01:34:54,033 ♪ You gotta keep it hid ♪ 1616 01:34:54,067 --> 01:34:56,173 ♪ Tell you about a woman ♪ 1617 01:34:56,207 --> 01:34:58,485 ♪ And the things she did ♪ 1618 01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:00,729 ♪ She took my money ♪ 1619 01:35:00,764 --> 01:35:02,800 ♪ And she took my pride ♪ 1620 01:35:02,835 --> 01:35:05,044 ♪ I'm gonna tell you a secret ♪ 1621 01:35:05,078 --> 01:35:07,149 ♪ I got nothing to hide ♪ 1622 01:35:11,222 --> 01:35:13,604 ♪ Because I'm moving on down the line ♪ 1623 01:35:16,952 --> 01:35:19,748 ♪ I'm gonna leave that no-good woman ♪ 1624 01:35:19,783 --> 01:35:22,786 ♪ Get that devil woman off my mind ♪ 1625 01:35:25,581 --> 01:35:27,066 ♪ I'll take the moonlight special ♪ 1626 01:35:27,100 --> 01:35:30,034 ♪ Moonlight special Gonna do it right ♪ 1627 01:35:30,069 --> 01:35:32,209 ♪ Yeah the moonlight special Moonlight special ♪ 1628 01:35:32,243 --> 01:35:34,798 ♪ And travel overnight ♪ 1629 01:35:34,832 --> 01:35:37,041 ♪ I'm going up the country I'm going up the country ♪ 1630 01:35:37,076 --> 01:35:39,975 ♪ Where I can't be found ♪ 1631 01:35:40,010 --> 01:35:44,152 ♪ Find a hideaway and keep my ear close to the ground ♪ 1632 01:35:47,603 --> 01:35:49,778 ♪ Yes I'm moving on down the line ♪ 1633 01:35:53,161 --> 01:35:55,957 ♪ I'm gonna leave that no-good woman ♪ 1634 01:35:55,991 --> 01:35:59,788 ♪ Get that devil woman off my mind ♪ 1635 01:35:59,823 --> 01:36:01,928 ♪ Aww tell me ♪ 1636 01:36:15,424 --> 01:36:17,806 ♪ She's a mean mistreater Mean mistreater ♪ 1637 01:36:17,841 --> 01:36:20,050 ♪ And she treat me bad Treat me bad ♪ 1638 01:36:20,084 --> 01:36:21,154 ♪ She's a robber and a cheater ♪ 1639 01:36:21,189 --> 01:36:22,466 ♪ Robber and a cheater ♪ 1640 01:36:22,500 --> 01:36:24,709 ♪ She's got me mad Got me mad ♪ 1641 01:36:24,744 --> 01:36:27,022 ♪ Gonna wash that woman Gonna wash that woman ♪ 1642 01:36:27,057 --> 01:36:29,059 ♪ Right out of my mind Right out of my mind ♪ 1643 01:36:29,093 --> 01:36:31,820 ♪ I'm gonna leave that woman Gonna leave that woman ♪ 1644 01:36:31,855 --> 01:36:34,133 ♪ Leave that woman way behind ♪ 1645 01:36:37,688 --> 01:36:40,070 ♪ 'Cause I'm moving on down the line ♪ 1646 01:36:43,211 --> 01:36:46,007 ♪ I'm gonna leave that no-good woman ♪ 1647 01:36:46,041 --> 01:36:48,941 ♪ Get that devil woman off my mind ♪ 1648 01:36:51,702 --> 01:36:54,084 ♪ I'm gonna tell you a secret ♪ 1649 01:36:54,118 --> 01:36:56,327 ♪ Gonna keep it hid ♪ 1650 01:36:56,362 --> 01:36:58,157 ♪ I'm gonna tell you a secret ♪ 1651 01:36:58,191 --> 01:37:00,711 ♪ Ooh about the things she did ♪ 1652 01:37:00,745 --> 01:37:02,886 ♪ I'm gonna tell you a secret ♪ 1653 01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:05,854 ♪ Gonna keep it hid ♪ 1654 01:37:05,889 --> 01:37:08,305 Shh. 1655 01:37:10,721 --> 01:37:12,896 ♪ Early in the morning about the break of day ♪ 1656 01:37:15,105 --> 01:37:17,659 ♪ That's when my baby ran away ♪ 1657 01:37:19,488 --> 01:37:21,836 ♪ Crying and pleading won't do no good ♪ 1658 01:37:24,079 --> 01:37:26,323 ♪ Come back baby I wish you would ♪ 1659 01:37:28,463 --> 01:37:30,775 ♪ I love you girl I can't help myself ♪ 1660 01:37:30,810 --> 01:37:34,055 ♪ Oh aah ♪ 1661 01:37:35,056 --> 01:37:36,057 ♪ Go ♪ 1662 01:37:37,196 --> 01:37:38,197 ♪ Yeah ♪ 1663 01:37:39,508 --> 01:37:40,647 ♪ Oh ♪ 1664 01:37:43,271 --> 01:37:44,928 Goodnight. 1665 01:37:44,962 --> 01:37:47,171 Everyone, this is Rhythm Kings. 1666 01:37:47,206 --> 01:37:48,863 Goodnight to you all. 1667 01:37:48,897 --> 01:37:51,831 [audience cheering] 131081

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