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Freeman:
ARE THE WEALTHY JUST BORN
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IN THE RIGHT PLACE
AT THE RIGHT TIME,
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OR ARE THE POOR
VICTIMS OF A SYSTEM
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DESIGNED TO KEEP THEM DOWN?
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PERHAPS PHYSICS AND BIOLOGY
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DETERMINE WHO'S RICH
AND WHO'S POOR.
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MANY HOPE TO ERASE THE DIVIDE
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BETWEEN THE HAVES
AND THE HAVE NOTS,
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BUT WHAT IF NATURE DEMANDS
WINNERS AND LOSERS IN LIFE?
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COULD POVERTY BE GENETIC?
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SPACE, TIME, LIFE ITSELF.
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THE SECRETS OF THE COSMOS
LIE THROUGH THE WORMHOLE.
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CAPTIONS PAID FOR BY
DISCOVERY COMMUNICATIONS
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PHARAOHS, KINGS, GREAT
INDUSTRIALISTS AND C.E.O.s.
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THROUGHOUT HISTORY,
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A SELECT FEW HAVE CLAIMED
ENORMOUS WEALTH
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AS A BIRTHRIGHT.
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SOME OF THEM SAY THEY ALSO
INHERIT QUALITIES AND VIRTUES
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THAT KEEP THEM RICH.
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COULD THE CHASM THAT SEPARATES
RICH AND POOR
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REALLY BE THE RESULT OF OUR DNA?
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SCIENTISTS ARE TRYING
TO DISCOVER
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IF THERE IS A BIOLOGICAL REASON
THE RICH STAY RICH
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AND WHETHER EQUALITY
AND PROSPERITY FOR ALL
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CONTRADICT THE LAWS OF NATURE.
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WHERE I GREW UP,
NOBODY HAD MUCH MONEY.
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NOBODY WE KNEW, ANYHOW.
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RICH PEOPLE WERE OUT THERE,
SOMEWHERE,
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BUT TO US, THEY MAY AS WELL
HAVE BEEN MARTIANS.
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MONEY WAS SO SCARCE
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THAT I WENT AROUND
THE NEIGHBORHOOD
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COLLECTING BOTTLES.
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I TRADED THEM IN WHEN I HAD
ENOUGH TO GET INTO THE MOVIES.
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NOW, OF COURSE, THINGS
ARE DIFFERENT FOR ME.
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I'M IN THE MOVIES.
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MONEY ISN'T MUCH OF A WORRY.
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MY EXPERIENCE SHOWS
THAT BEING BORN POOR
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IS NOT NECESSARILY
A LIFE SENTENCE.
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BUT FOR BILLIONS OF PEOPLE
AROUND THE WORLD,
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POVERTY PASSES FROM GENERATION
TO GENERATION WITHOUT END.
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WE INHERIT PROPERTY, OR THE LACK
OF IT, FROM OUR PARENTS.
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WE ALSO INHERIT
OUR PARENTS' DNA,
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AND FOR AS LONG AS WE'VE
KNOWN ABOUT GENETICS,
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SCIENTISTS HAVE BEEN WONDERING
IF THERE IS A CONNECTION
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BETWEEN OUR MONEY AND OUR GENES.
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GENES ARE PIECES OF CODE THAT
TELL YOUR BODY HOW TO FUNCTION.
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THERE ARE ABOUT 25,000 GENES
IN HUMAN DNA.
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HOW DO THEY AFFECT
OUR PERSONALITIES?
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THESE ARE QUESTIONS
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UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA PROFESSOR
ERIC TURKHEIMER
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HAS BEEN ASKING FOR 20 YEARS.
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ERIC STUDIES THE GENETICS
OF COMPLEX HUMAN BEHAVIOR.
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ONE WAY YOU CAN THINK
ABOUT THE ROLE
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THAT INDIVIDUAL GENES PLAY
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IN THE CREATION
OF COMPLEX GENETIC EFFECTS
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IS THAT IT'S LIKE THE ROLE
THAT AN INDIVIDUAL THREAD
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MIGHT PLAY IN THE CREATION
OF A COMPLEX TAPESTRY.
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YOU COULDN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND
THE ROLE OF EACH THREAD
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ONE AT A TIME,
SEPARATE FROM THE OTHERS.
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YOU HAVE TO KNOW HOW EACH THREAD
FITS INTO THE WARP
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AND WOOF OF THE FABRIC
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AND HOW THEY ALL WORK TOGETHER
TO CREATE THE PATTERN.
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WELL, WITH GENES,
IT'S THE SAME WAY.
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Freeman: THESE ARE
THE GENETIC INTERACTIONS
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WITHIN JUST ONE OF YOUR 23 PAIRS
OF CHROMOSOMES.
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IT'S A HIGHLY INTERCONNECTED,
HIGHLY COMPLEX WEB
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OF GENETIC FACTORS.
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AFTER THE HUMAN GENOME
WAS DECODED IN 2001,
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STUDIES EMERGED CLAIMING TO FIND
LINKS BETWEEN INDIVIDUAL GENES
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AND CHARACTERISTICS
LIKE COMMON SENSE,
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AMBITION, AND PERSEVERANCE.
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SOME IMAGINED WE MIGHT SOON BE
ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHO WAS BORN
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TO PROSPER
AND WHO WAS BORN TO FAIL.
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THIS HAS FRIGHTENING
IMPLICATIONS.
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IMAGINE BANKS DEMANDING SALIVA
TESTS BEFORE GRANTING LOANS,
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CUSTODY BATTLES DECIDED
BY WHICH PARENT
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HAS BETTER FINANCIAL GENES,
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OR ENTIRE RACES LABELED
AS CREDIT RISKS.
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BUT A DECADE LATER,
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THE VAST MAJORITY OF THESE
ONE-GENE, ONE-TRAIT STUDIES
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HAVE BEEN PROVEN WRONG.
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Turkheimer:
I THINK IF YOU WOULD ASK ME
20 YEARS AGO,
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"ARE WE GONNA KNOW WHAT THE
GENES FOR HUMAN PERSONALITY
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ARE IN 20 YEARS?"
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I THINK I WOULD'VE SAID,
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"YEAH, SURE,
WE'LL KNOW SOMETHING."
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IT'S TURNING OUT THAT THE WAY
GENETICS WORKS
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IS MORE COMPLICATED IN A WAY
THAT DOESN'T ALLOW US
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TO IDENTIFY THE EFFECTS
OF INDIVIDUAL GENES.
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Freeman:
SO ERIC HAS A NEW APPROACH:
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USING STATISTICAL SOFTWARE TO
ANALYZE THE VAST BODY OF DATA
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COLLECTED AROUND THE WORLD
ON TWINS.
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ARE YOU SHAPED BY YOUR GENES
OR BY YOUR ENVIRONMENT?
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IT'S THE PROBLEM THAT ALWAYS
GETS IN THE WAY OF STUDIES
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ON HOW GENES ARE CONNECTED
TO COMPLEX TRAITS.
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BUT TWINS OFFER A WAY
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TO SEPARATE THE EFFECTS
OF NATURE AND NURTURE.
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IDENTICAL TWINS SHARE VIRTUALLY
100% OF THEIR GENETIC MATERIAL.
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FRATERNAL TWINS SHARE 50%
OF THEIR GENES.
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BY COMPARING IDENTICAL
AND FRATERNAL TWINS,
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WE WERE ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE
IN A GENERAL WAY
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THAT GENES HAVE EFFECTS
ON ALMOST EVERYTHING.
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Freeman: ERIC BEGAN LOOKING
AT VERY LARGE SAMPLES
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OF TWINS FROM ALL
AROUND THE U.S.
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FROM ALL SOCIOECONOMIC GROUPS.
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HE USED I.Q. AS A PREDICTOR
OF FUTURE WEALTH OF A CHILD,
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A LINK MOST STUDIES FIND
TO BE VERY STRONG.
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Turkheimer: WHAT WE FOUND
WAS QUITE SURPRISING.
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CHILDREN RAISED IN POVERTY,
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THEIR HOME ENVIRONMENT WAS BY
FAR THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR.
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THEIR GENES SEEMED TO PLAY
ALMOST NO ROLE AT ALL.
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Freeman: IF A CHILD WITH GENES
PREDISPOSING HIM OR HER
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TO BE A FINANCIAL WIZARD
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IS RAISED IN AN EXTREMELY
HARSH ENVIRONMENT,
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THAT EXCEPTIONAL DNA
MAY NOT SHINE THROUGH.
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Turkheimer: AND THEN
AS YOU MOVED FROM KIDS
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RAISED IN THOSE REALLY
TERRIBLE CIRCUMSTANCES
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UP TO KIDS RAISED
IN THE MIDDLE CLASS,
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THE ROLE OF GENES BECAME MORE
AND MORE AND MORE IMPORTANT,
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AND ONCE YOU GOT
TO THE MIDDLE CLASS OR BETTER,
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GENES TOOK OVER,
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AND BY THE TIME YOU GOT TO THE
WEALTHIEST PEOPLE IN THE STUDY,
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GENES WERE MAKING
ALL THE DIFFERENCE.
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Freeman: GENES DO HAVE
IMPORTANT EFFECTS
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ON HOW RICH OR POOR CHILDREN
WILL BE WHEN THEY GROW UP,
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BUT IT'S AN EFFECT
THAT IS ONLY VISIBLE
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WHEN KIDS GROW UP
OUTSIDE OF POVERTY.
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Turkheimer:
TO SOME EXTENT,
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IT'S PROBABLY TRUE THAT PEOPLE
WHO WIND UP LIVING IN POVERTY
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HAVE SOME KIND
OF GENETIC DIFFERENCE
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FROM PEOPLE WHO WIND UP
MAKING A LOT OF MONEY.
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I THINK WHAT OUR WORK HAS SHOWN
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IS THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER
WHAT KIND OF GENETIC TENDENCIES
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SOME OF THESE KIDS MAY HAVE HAD.
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IF THEY'RE RAISED IN
A BAD ENOUGH ENVIRONMENT,
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THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE
TO EXPRESS THEM.
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Freeman:
THE TAPESTRY OF GENES
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THAT MAKE UP YOU AS AN ADULT
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ARE SHAPED BY THE FABRIC OF DNA
YOU WERE BORN WITH
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AND BY THE ENVIRONMENT
YOU GREW UP IN.
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HOW CAN WE OVERCOME THE CARDS
THAT NATURE AND NURTURE DEALT US
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IN THE WOMB AND THE CRIB?
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A NEW STUDY SUGGESTS
OUR ECONOMIC DESTINY
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MAY BE DETERMINED BY THE TIME
WE ARE 12,
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BECAUSE POVERTY CAN AFFECT
THE BRAIN.
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MARTHA FARAH IS THE FOUNDER
AND DIRECTOR
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OF THE CENTER FOR NEUROSCIENCE
AND SOCIETY
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AT THE UNIVERSITY
OF PENNSYLVANIA.
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SHE HAS OFTEN WONDERED,
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"WHY DO POOR CHILDREN PERFORM
WORSE ON I.Q. TESTS
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AND IN SCHOOL?"
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Farah:
MANY DIFFERENT DISCIPLINES
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HAVE TRIED TO UNDERSTAND
HOW IT IS THAT POVERTY
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SHAPES PEOPLE'S LIFE CHANCES.
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MY COLLEAGUES AND I ARE TAKING
A NEUROBIOLOGICAL APPROACH
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TO THIS QUESTION.
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Freeman:
OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS,
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MARTHA AND HER COLLEAGUES HAVE
SCANNED THE BRAIN ARCHITECTURE
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OF HUNDREDS OF CHILDREN
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FROM A WIDE RANGE OF
SOCIOECONOMIC BACKGROUNDS.
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SHE HAS FOUND THERE ARE
PHYSICAL DIFFERENCES
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BETWEEN THE BRAINS OF THE RICH
AND THE POOR.
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Farah:
THE QUESTION WE ASKED WAS,
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"WHAT PARTS OF THE BRAIN
ARE DEPENDENT
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"ON THAT SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS
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FOR THE SIZE AND SHAPE THAT THEY
EVENTUALLY GROW TO?"
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WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT SEVERAL
IMPORTANT AREAS
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DO SHOW AN EFFECT OF
SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS.
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Freeman: GROWING UP
IN EXTREME POVERTY
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SLOWS THE GROWTH
OF THE HIPPOCAMPUS,
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WHICH IS IMPORTANT FOR LEARNING,
MEMORY, AND STRESS REGULATION,
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AND IT ALSO SHRINKS
THE PREFRONTAL CORTEX,
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WHICH HELPS COORDINATE MEMORY,
PERCEPTION, AND MOTOR CONTROL.
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RICH KIDS TEND TO HAVE A THICKER
CORTEX THAN POOR KIDS,
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BUT IT IS CRUCIAL TO NOTE
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THE RICH AND POOR AREN'T BORN
WITH THESE DIFFERENCES.
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THE BRAINS OF THE POOR START OFF
THE SAME AS ANYONE ELSE'S.
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THEIR BRAINS ARE, HOWEVER,
AT GREATER RISK
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OF DEVELOPING SLOWLY
IN EARLY CHILDHOOD.
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IT IS NOT GENETICS
THAT DOES THE DAMAGE.
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IT IS LACK OF MENTAL STIMULATION
AND THE STRESSES OF POVERTY.
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ONE DIFFERENCE WE KNOW EXISTS
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BETWEEN THE CHILDHOOD
EXPERIENCES OF POOR KIDS
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AND WEALTHIER KIDS
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IS THAT THE WEALTHIER KIDS GET
MORE COGNITIVE STIMULATION,
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EVERYTHING FROM BEING READ TO,
JUST BEING TALKED TO,
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CONVERSATION,
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VISITS TO INTERESTING PLACES,
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AND WE KNOW THAT THAT
PROMOTES COGNITIVE
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AND BRAIN DEVELOPMENT.
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Freeman: BUT OTHER FORCES
CAN DETERMINE
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WHO IS RICH AND WHO IS POOR,
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FORCES THAT GOVERN
NOT JUST INDIVIDUALS
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BUT ENTIRE NATIONS.
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TODAY'S RICH MAN
MAY BE TOMORROW'S PAUPER,
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BECAUSE WEALTH IS OFTEN A MATTER
OF GEOGRAPHY.
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TWO MILLENNIA AGO,
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IF YOU WANTED TO GET RICH,
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YOU'D HEAD FOR ROME.
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FOR THE PAST CENTURY,
YOU CAME TO AMERICA.
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NOW YOU MIGHT WANT
TO HEAD FOR CHINA.
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WHY ARE CERTAIN PLACES BURSTING
WITH MONEY AT CERTAIN TIMES?
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WHY ARE SOME NATIONS
POORER THAN OTHERS?
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TWO SCIENTISTS HAVE
A RADICAL EXPLANATION.
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ECONOMIES BUZZ
BECAUSE OF THE GENETIC MIX
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OF THE PEOPLE IN THEM.
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THESE IVY LEAGUE ECONOMISTS
MAY NOT LOOK DANGEROUS,
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BUT TO THE ACADEMIC WORLD,
THEY ARE WILD-EYED ANARCHISTS.
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A FEW YEARS AGO,
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QUAMRUL ASHRAF
OF WILLIAMS COLLEGE
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AND ODED GALOR
OF BROWN UNIVERSITY
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WERE LOOKING TO EXPLAIN
THE DISPARITY
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OF WEALTH BETWEEN NATIONS.
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THEIR FINDINGS SET OFF
A RAGING DEBATE
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ABOUT THE ROOTS OF POVERTY.
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AS ECONOMISTS,
WE ARE ULTIMATELY INTERESTED
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IN UNDERSTANDING THE ORIGINS
OF GLOBAL INEQUALITY.
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THOSE ORIGINS LIE
IN THE DISTANT PAST.
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Freeman: ODED AND QUAMRUL
SET OUT TO STUDY
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THE ROLE GENETIC DIVERSITY
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HAS PLAYED
IN WEALTH DISTRIBUTION
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AROUND THE GLOBE.
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THEY REACHED A SURPRISING
AND UNPOPULAR CONCLUSION.
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YOU KNOW, ODED AND I ESTABLISHED
THAT THERE IS A CAUSE AND EFFECT
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OF GENETIC DIVERSITY
ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
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THAT GOES BACK
TO THE DISTANT PAST,
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AND IT PERSISTS
THROUGH THE PRESENT DAY.
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INITIAL CONDITIONS
TEND TO BE VERY PERSISTENT.
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THESE VARIATIONS IN CONDITIONS
THAT GO BACK, YOU KNOW,
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80,000 TO 40,000 YEARS AGO
SHOW UP IN THE DATA TODAY,
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AND THEY'RE THERE.
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EVOLUTIONARY BIOLOGISTS
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FIND THAT THE FARTHER AN
INDIGENOUS GROUP IS FROM AFRICA,
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THE LESS DIVERSE
IT IS GENETICALLY.
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AFRICANS ARE THE MOST
GENETICALLY DIVERSE
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BECAUSE ALL THE VARIOUS PEOPLES
OF THE WORLD ORIGINATED THERE.
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THE SMALLER GROUPS
THAT LEFT AFRICA
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TO SETTLE IN MORE DISTANT LANDS
ARE LESS DIVERSE.
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ODED AND QUAMRUL TRACED
THIS GENETIC EFFECT
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ACROSS 80,000 YEARS.
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THEN THEY COMPARED IT TO MARKERS
OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
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OVER THE LAST 2,000 YEARS.
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GENETIC DIVERSITY IS RESPONSIBLE
FOR ABOUT 1/6
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OF THE VARIATIONS
OR THE INEQUALITY
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THAT WE SEE ACROSS THE GLOBE,
WHICH IS A HUGE FRACTION.
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THE ECONOMISTS FOUND
THAT TOO MUCH OR TOO LITTLE
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GENETIC DIVERSITY CAN BE HARMFUL
TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
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THROUGHOUT HISTORY, THEY CLAIM,
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SUCCESSFUL SOCIETIES HAVE BEEN
THE ONES THAT HIT THE SWEET SPOT
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OF GENETIC DIVERSITY.
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IN BASEBALL,
THE SWEET SPOT OF THE BAT
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IS ABOUT SIX INCHES
FROM THE END OF THE BARREL.
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THIS IS WHERE THE PERFORMANCE
OF THE BAT IS MAXIMIZED
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AND THE HAND SENSATION,
OR STING, IS MINIMIZED.
256
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IT IS THE SPOT WHERE THE BAT
IS JUST RIGHT.
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THERE IS A SWEET SPOT.
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THE SWEET SPOT AT THE MOMENT
IS ASSOCIATED
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WITH THE LEVEL OF DIVERSITY
IN THE UNITED STATES,
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AND SOCIETIES THAT ARE
MORE DIVERSE
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ARE MORE ABLE TO COPE
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WITH THIS RAPIDLY CHANGING
TECHNOLOGICAL ENVIRONMENT,
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AND THE DEGREE OF DIVERSITY
IS GENERATING BENEFITS
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IN THE CONTEXT
OF INNOVATIONS.
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00:14:49,067 --> 00:14:53,067
BUT THIS IS WHERE
IT GETS CONTROVERSIAL,
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00:14:53,067 --> 00:14:57,967
BECAUSE IF THERE IS A PERFECT
AMOUNT OF GENETIC DIVERSITY,
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THAT MEANS THERE ARE ALSO LESS
OPTIMAL MIXTURES OF HUMANITY.
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ODED AND QUAMRUL FOUND
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THAT SOCIETIES LACKING
IN GENETIC DIVERSITY
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TEND NOT TO BE INNOVATIVE.
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ON THE CON SIDE,
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SOCIETIES THAT TEND
TO BE MORE DIVERSE
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ARE LESS TRUSTFUL, LESS
COHESIVE, LESS COORDINATED.
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AN OVERLY DIVERSE COUNTRY,
BY THIS ANALYSIS, IS THE CONGO,
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WHERE ETHNIC GROUPS HAVE BEEN
DIVIDING FOR OVER 50,000 YEARS.
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NOW IT'S MIRED IN CIVIL WAR.
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ON THE OTHER HAND,
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A COUNTRY LIKE POLAND
ISN'T DIVERSE ENOUGH.
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IT HAS ONLY BEEN INHABITED
FOR ABOUT 5,000 YEARS.
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SO IT IS VERY COHERENT
ETHNICALLY,
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BUT IT IS NOT A POWERHOUSE
OF INNOVATION.
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ODED AND QUAMRUL SAY A BLEND
SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE
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LETS NEW VOICES EMERGE,
PROMOTES INNOVATION,
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AND LEADS TO ECONOMIC HEALTH.
285
00:15:59,367 --> 00:16:05,167
BUT SOME ANTHROPOLOGISTS SAY
THE ECONOMISTS ARE WRONG.
286
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THERE IS NO SWEET SPOT.
287
00:16:07,100 --> 00:16:10,833
THEY ALSO CHARGE THAT ODED
AND QUAMRUL'S WORK
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00:16:10,833 --> 00:16:14,133
COULD BE USED TO JUSTIFY
DISCRIMINATION
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00:16:14,133 --> 00:16:15,600
OR EVEN GENOCIDE
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00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,067
TO REDUCE DIVERSITY IN THE NAME
OF ECONOMIC PROGRESS.
291
00:16:19,067 --> 00:16:23,267
THE PROFESSORS SAY THEIR WORK
HAS BEEN MISUNDERSTOOD
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00:16:23,267 --> 00:16:26,400
BECAUSE AN APPRECIATION
OF DIVERSITY
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CAN OVERCOME ITS DRAWBACKS.
294
00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,600
WE CAN ASSURE THAT SOCIETIES
THAT ARE OVERLY DIVERSE,
295
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SUCH AS THE SOCIETIES
IN AFRICA,
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CAN BENEFIT FROM THEIR LEVEL
OF DIVERSITY
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SIMPLY BY ASSURING THAT,
IN FACT,
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DIVERSITY IS CHERISHED,
DIVERSITY IS RESPECTED,
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AND ETHNIC GROUPS
ARE BEING PROTECTED.
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WE ARE NOT SAYING
THAT THERE ARE SOME TRAITS
301
00:16:49,267 --> 00:16:50,833
THAT ARE BETTER
THAN OTHERS
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00:16:50,833 --> 00:16:52,733
FOR, YOU KNOW,
ECONOMIC PROSPERITY,
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00:16:52,733 --> 00:16:55,400
BOTH AT AN INDIVIDUAL LEVEL
OR AT THE SOCIETAL LEVEL.
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00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,233
WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS
IT'S THE MIX.
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00:16:57,233 --> 00:17:01,600
IT APPEARS THAT SINCE
HUMAN CIVILIZATION BEGAN,
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00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,433
SOME HAVE ALWAYS HAD MORE
THAN OTHERS,
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00:17:04,433 --> 00:17:07,067
BE IT INDIVIDUALS OR NATIONS.
308
00:17:07,067 --> 00:17:09,567
WEALTH AND POWER
MAY CHANGE HANDS,
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00:17:09,567 --> 00:17:12,067
BUT THE DIFFERENCE REMAINS.
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00:17:12,067 --> 00:17:13,933
CAN THIS BE CHANGED?
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00:17:13,933 --> 00:17:17,800
CAN WE CREATE A SOCIETY IN WHICH
THERE IS WEALTH FOR EVERYONE
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00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,567
AND NOT JUST A FEW?
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00:17:19,567 --> 00:17:21,167
ACCORDING TO THIS MAN,
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00:17:21,167 --> 00:17:23,800
THE ODDS MAY BE STACKED
AGAINST US.
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00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,667
POVERTY MAY BE
AN INEVITABLE OUTCOME
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00:17:27,667 --> 00:17:30,067
OF THE LAWS OF PHYSICS.
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00:17:34,567 --> 00:17:36,500
IN THE 19th CENTURY,
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00:17:36,500 --> 00:17:39,333
PHYSICISTS DEVELOPED MATHEMATICS
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00:17:39,333 --> 00:17:43,767
THAT COULD PREDICT
THE SEEMINGLY RANDOM MOVEMENTS
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OF GAS MOLECULES.
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00:17:46,700 --> 00:17:51,267
TODAY, WALL STREET
IS FULL OF PHYSICISTS
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00:17:51,267 --> 00:17:54,233
TRYING TO FIND SIMILAR EQUATIONS
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00:17:54,233 --> 00:17:57,567
TO PREDICT THE MOVEMENT
OF MONEY.
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THEY HAVEN'T BEEN
VERY SUCCESSFUL,
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00:18:00,633 --> 00:18:02,700
BUT THAT COULD BE BECAUSE
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00:18:02,700 --> 00:18:06,067
THEY'RE OVERLOOKING
ONE CRUCIAL FACTOR.
327
00:18:06,067 --> 00:18:10,767
THE RICH DON'T PLAY BY THE SAME
RULES AS EVERYONE ELSE.
328
00:18:13,500 --> 00:18:18,233
VICTOR YAKOVENKO IS LOOKING FOR
THE CAUSES OF INCOME DISPARITY.
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00:18:18,233 --> 00:18:21,600
A PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY
OF MARYLAND,
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00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,100
VICTOR HELPED CREATE
ECONOPHYSICS.
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00:18:25,100 --> 00:18:30,267
HE USED THE SCIENCE OF
THERMODYNAMICS TO STUDY MARKETS,
332
00:18:30,267 --> 00:18:32,867
CAPITAL, AND EARNING POWER.
333
00:18:32,867 --> 00:18:36,833
VICTOR HAS FOUND THERE ARE
REALLY TWO ECONOMIES:
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ONE FOR THE RICH
AND ONE FOR EVERYONE ELSE.
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00:18:40,433 --> 00:18:43,567
Yakovenko:
MY MESSAGE IS, THERE'S NO
SUCH THING AS MIDDLE CLASS,
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00:18:43,567 --> 00:18:45,467
BECAUSE IF I WANTED
TO DRAW A BOUNDARY
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TO DEFINE THE MIDDLE CLASS,
I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO PUT IT.
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DATA HAS NO FEATURES,
NO STRUCTURES.
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DATA SHOWS ME THAT THERE ARE
ONLY TWO CLASSES:
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LOWER CLASS AND UPPER CLASS.
THAT'S IT.
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Freeman: VICTOR'S DATA SHOWS
97% OF THE POPULATION
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00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:02,233
IS IN THE LOWER CLASS
AND 3% IS IN THE UPPER CLASS.
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FOR EXAMPLE, TODAY, THERE ARE
ABOUT 1,500 MULTI-BILLIONAIRES
344
00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:08,933
IN THE WORLD
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AND 2 BILLION PEOPLE WHO LIVE
ON LESS THAN $2 A DAY.
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OF THE 311 MILLION PEOPLE
IN AMERICA,
347
00:19:17,100 --> 00:19:21,433
THE 9 MILLION AT THE TOP
HAVE MOST OF THE MONEY.
348
00:19:21,433 --> 00:19:24,933
IN THIS VAULT,
WE PUT 100 GOLD BARS
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00:19:24,933 --> 00:19:27,700
TO ILLUSTRATE
PROBABILITY DISTRIBUTION
350
00:19:27,700 --> 00:19:30,867
OF INCOME AND WEALTH
IN THE AMERICAN ECONOMY.
351
00:19:30,867 --> 00:19:34,133
SO, HERE WE HAVE
DIFFERENT LEVELS.
352
00:19:34,133 --> 00:19:35,433
POOR PEOPLE WITH LOW INCOME,
353
00:19:35,433 --> 00:19:37,133
AND THEN PROGRESSIVELY
HIGHER INCOME.
354
00:19:37,133 --> 00:19:41,433
THESE THREE SHELVES REPRESENT
50% OF THE POPULATION --
355
00:19:41,433 --> 00:19:43,600
A HALF OF THE POPULATION --
356
00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,300
AND ALL THIS TOTAL INCOME OF
THE HALF OF THE POPULATION,
357
00:19:46,300 --> 00:19:48,767
YOU COUNT THESE BARS,
IT'S ONLY 10 BARS OUT OF 100.
358
00:19:48,767 --> 00:19:51,700
IN OTHER WORDS,
THE LOWER 50% OF POPULATION
359
00:19:51,700 --> 00:19:54,933
RECEIVES ONLY 10% OF TOTAL
INCOME OF THE SYSTEM.
360
00:19:54,933 --> 00:19:56,633
THAT'S INCOME INEQUALITY.
361
00:19:56,633 --> 00:20:01,467
Freeman: THIS IMBALANCE BETWEEN
THE HAVES AND HAVE NOTS,
362
00:20:01,467 --> 00:20:05,567
THOUGH DRAMATIC,
IS NOT UNIQUE TO THE U.S.
363
00:20:05,567 --> 00:20:07,933
Yakovenko: PRETTY MUCH
ANY SOCIETY HAS INEQUALITY --
364
00:20:07,933 --> 00:20:10,300
A FEW RICH PEOPLE,
MANY POOR PEOPLE --
365
00:20:10,300 --> 00:20:12,233
AND IT'S A PERSISTENT
FEATURE
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00:20:12,233 --> 00:20:13,967
OF PRETTY MUCH ALL SOCIETIES.
367
00:20:13,967 --> 00:20:15,100
AND SO I SAID,
368
00:20:15,100 --> 00:20:17,600
MAYBE THERE'S SOME KIND
OF DEEP REASON FOR THIS,
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00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,967
AND MAYBE WE CAN UNDERSTAND THEM
BY KNOWLEDGE OF ITS PHYSICS.
370
00:20:20,967 --> 00:20:24,167
Freeman: VICTOR TOOK CONCEPTS
FROM PHYSICS,
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00:20:24,167 --> 00:20:27,067
SUCH AS THE BEHAVIOR
OF MOLECULES,
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AND APPLIED THEM
TO FINANCIAL DATA.
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00:20:30,067 --> 00:20:33,200
HE DISCOVERED THAT
IN VIRTUALLY ALL COUNTRIES,
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THERE IS THE ECONOMY
OF THE RICH
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00:20:35,533 --> 00:20:39,167
AND A VERY DIFFERENT ECONOMY
FOR EVERYONE ELSE.
376
00:20:39,167 --> 00:20:45,533
IN AMERICA, THE 3% WITH INCOMES
GREATER THAN $150,000 A YEAR
377
00:20:45,533 --> 00:20:47,700
MIGHT AS WELL LIVE
IN A DIFFERENT REALITY
378
00:20:47,700 --> 00:20:50,467
THAN THE LESS WELL-OFF 97%.
379
00:20:50,467 --> 00:20:55,233
VICTOR CALLS THEM THE THERMAL
AND THE SUPERTHERMAL ECONOMIES.
380
00:20:55,233 --> 00:20:59,467
EACH BEHAVES IN WAYS PHYSICISTS
FIND EERILY FAMILIAR.
381
00:20:59,467 --> 00:21:02,067
CONSIDER THIS POT
OF BOILING WATER.
382
00:21:02,067 --> 00:21:05,100
THE WATER MOLECULES IN THE POT
JIGGLE AROUND
383
00:21:05,100 --> 00:21:08,367
AND BUMP INTO EACH
OTHER WITH NO APPARENT ORDER,
384
00:21:08,367 --> 00:21:11,533
BUT THESE RANDOM MOVEMENTS
ACTUALLY FIT A PATTERN
385
00:21:11,533 --> 00:21:13,567
CALLED A BOLTZMANN DISTRIBUTION.
386
00:21:13,567 --> 00:21:16,833
IT DESCRIBES HOW ENERGY
IS SPREAD BETWEEN PARTICLES
387
00:21:16,833 --> 00:21:19,400
WHEN THEY ACHIEVE
THERMAL EQUILIBRIUM.
388
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,767
SO, WE SEE THIS DISTRIBUTION
IN PHYSICS
389
00:21:21,767 --> 00:21:24,333
WHEN ATOMS COLLIDE
AND REDISTRIBUTE ENERGY,
390
00:21:24,333 --> 00:21:26,633
BUT WE ALSO SEE
THE SAME DISTRIBUTION
391
00:21:26,633 --> 00:21:28,100
IN DISTRIBUTION OF MONEY.
392
00:21:28,100 --> 00:21:29,967
Freeman:
STRANGELY ENOUGH,
393
00:21:29,967 --> 00:21:34,300
THIS IS HOW MONEY IS SCATTERED
ACROSS 97% OF THE POPULATION.
394
00:21:34,300 --> 00:21:38,300
EVEN IF EVERYONE STARTS OUT
WITH EQUAL AMOUNTS OF CASH,
395
00:21:38,300 --> 00:21:42,667
OVER TIME, THE MONEY SPREADS OUT
IN A BOLTZMANN DISTRIBUTION.
396
00:21:42,667 --> 00:21:45,633
THERE WILL BE LOTS OF PEOPLE
IN THE MIDDLE,
397
00:21:45,633 --> 00:21:50,433
AND FEWER WHO ARE VERY POOR
OR RELATIVELY WEALTHY,
398
00:21:50,433 --> 00:21:54,933
BUT FOR THE 3% AT THE TOP,
IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT STORY.
399
00:21:54,933 --> 00:21:57,133
THE THERMAL ECONOMY GIVES WAY
400
00:21:57,133 --> 00:22:00,800
TO WHAT VICTOR CALLS
THE SUPERTHERMAL ECONOMY.
401
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:05,200
THE SUPERTHERMAL ECONOMY IS LIKE
THE HIGH-ENERGY MOLECULES
402
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,300
THAT BREAK FREE OF BOILING WATER
AND ESCAPE AS STEAM.
403
00:22:09,300 --> 00:22:13,300
Yakovenko:
THE MOLECULES OF WATER,
THEY HAVE CERTAIN TEMPERATURE.
404
00:22:13,300 --> 00:22:15,767
SO THE VAPOR HERE WOULD BE
THE ANALOG OF THE UPPER CLASS,
405
00:22:15,767 --> 00:22:17,100
BECAUSE THESE ARE THE MOLECULES
406
00:22:17,100 --> 00:22:18,667
WITH THE HIGHEST
POSSIBLE ENERGY.
407
00:22:18,667 --> 00:22:21,300
Freeman:
THESE HIGH-ENERGY MOLECULES
408
00:22:21,300 --> 00:22:23,700
NO LONGER FOLLOW A BOLTZMANN
DISTRIBUTION.
409
00:22:23,700 --> 00:22:28,067
INSTEAD, THEY ARE GOVERNED
BY A POWER LAW,
410
00:22:28,067 --> 00:22:31,267
A DISTRIBUTION THAT
HAS NO UPPER LIMIT.
411
00:22:34,267 --> 00:22:39,100
SO, WHY ARE THERE TWO ECONOMIES
WITH TWO SETS OF RULES?
412
00:22:39,100 --> 00:22:42,433
THE 97% OF THE POPULATION
IN THE LOWER CLASSES
413
00:22:42,433 --> 00:22:45,333
LIVE OFF THE MONEY
FROM THEIR PAYCHECK.
414
00:22:45,333 --> 00:22:48,967
MEANWHILE, THE UPPER CLASS
INVESTS ITS MONEY
415
00:22:48,967 --> 00:22:51,400
IN FINANCIAL MARKETS
AND PROPERTY.
416
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,300
UNLIKE PEOPLE LIVING
ON A FIXED WAGE,
417
00:22:54,300 --> 00:22:57,067
THE RICH HAVE THEIR MONEY
IN A PART OF THE ECONOMY
418
00:22:57,067 --> 00:22:58,900
THAT HAS NO LIMITS.
419
00:22:58,900 --> 00:23:03,567
LIKE STEAM, IT HAS ESCAPED
THE BOUNDARIES OF THE POT.
420
00:23:03,567 --> 00:23:06,633
THE PATTERN
STRETCHES ACROSS HISTORY
421
00:23:06,633 --> 00:23:08,867
FROM ANCIENT EGYPT TO TODAY.
422
00:23:08,867 --> 00:23:12,200
NO MATTER HOW EQUAL
A NATION STARTS,
423
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,467
THIS PATTERN
SEEMS TO TAKE OVER.
424
00:23:15,467 --> 00:23:17,667
TAKE ISRAEL.
425
00:23:17,667 --> 00:23:20,067
WHEN FORMED IN 1948,
426
00:23:20,067 --> 00:23:24,500
ISRAEL WAS A HIGHLY EGALITARIAN
COUNTRY WITH A SOCIALIST BENT.
427
00:23:24,500 --> 00:23:29,800
BY DESIGN, PEOPLE HAD MORE
OR LESS THE SAME INCOME.
428
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,333
BUT ISRAEL'S INCOME DISTRIBUTION
SLOWLY BROADENED,
429
00:23:33,333 --> 00:23:37,833
AND BY 1990, IT, TOO,
HAD REACHED THE SHAPE
430
00:23:37,833 --> 00:23:41,067
OF A THERMAL ECONOMY.
431
00:23:41,067 --> 00:23:42,167
SO, IN 40 YEARS OR SO,
432
00:23:42,167 --> 00:23:44,133
IT EVOLVED FROM
HIGHLY EQUAL DISTRIBUTION
433
00:23:44,133 --> 00:23:45,867
TO THIS BROAD
UNEQUAL DISTRIBUTION,
434
00:23:45,867 --> 00:23:49,833
AND AFTER THAT, I BELIEVE,
IT DEVELOPED UPPER CLASS,
435
00:23:49,833 --> 00:23:53,133
THE SUPERTHERMAL TAIL,
EVEN HIGHER INEQUALITY.
436
00:23:53,133 --> 00:23:57,433
EQUALITY, PERFECT EQUALITY,
IS TOTALLY UNSTABLE. OKAY?
437
00:23:57,433 --> 00:23:59,767
ONCE YOU ENGAGE
INTO ANY TRANSACTION,
438
00:23:59,767 --> 00:24:01,300
EQUALITY GOES AWAY.
439
00:24:01,300 --> 00:24:07,133
THE SUPER RICH OPERATE BY THEIR
OWN SEPARATE PHYSICAL LAWS,
440
00:24:07,133 --> 00:24:12,800
BUT THEY HAVE TO LIVE
ON THE SAME PLANET AS THE POOR.
441
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:18,067
BIOLOGY COULD HOLD THE KEY
TO OUR MUTUAL SURVIVAL.
442
00:24:23,667 --> 00:24:26,267
CHARLES DARWIN SAW LIFE ON EARTH
443
00:24:26,267 --> 00:24:29,300
AS A BITTER STRUGGLE
FOR SURVIVAL.
444
00:24:29,300 --> 00:24:31,500
THAT SEEMS LIKE CARTE BLANCHE
445
00:24:31,500 --> 00:24:34,433
FOR THE RICH TO TAKE
WHAT THEY WANT.
446
00:24:34,433 --> 00:24:35,967
GREED IS KING,
447
00:24:35,967 --> 00:24:40,433
BUT OUR UNDERSTANDING
OF EVOLUTION IS EVOLVING.
448
00:24:40,433 --> 00:24:45,700
COOPERATION AND COMMUNITY
MAY BE JUST AS ESSENTIAL
449
00:24:45,700 --> 00:24:49,767
TO OUR SURVIVAL AS SELFISHNESS.
450
00:24:53,067 --> 00:24:58,067
TRACY MINCER STUDIES THE OLDEST
COMMUNITIES ON EARTH:
451
00:24:58,067 --> 00:25:00,233
COLONIES OF MICROBES.
452
00:25:00,233 --> 00:25:04,267
WORKING OUT OF THE WOODS HOLE
OCEANOGRAPHIC INSTITUTE
453
00:25:04,267 --> 00:25:05,667
IN MASSACHUSETTS,
454
00:25:05,667 --> 00:25:08,867
TRACY AND HIS TEAM
OF MICROBIOLOGISTS
455
00:25:08,867 --> 00:25:14,067
TRAVEL THE WORLD GATHERING
EXOTIC MICROORGANISMS.
456
00:25:14,067 --> 00:25:15,800
I FEEL LIKE I'M REALLY LOOKING
457
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,067
AT SOME OF THE LAST WILDERNESS
LEFT ON EARTH TO EXPLORE
458
00:25:19,067 --> 00:25:23,533
BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE SEEING
IS WILDERNESS IN A TUBE.
459
00:25:23,533 --> 00:25:27,167
WE'RE HARVESTING MICROBES
FROM THEIR WILD SOURCES
460
00:25:27,167 --> 00:25:29,900
AND LOOKING AT HOW
THEY'RE WORKING.
461
00:25:29,900 --> 00:25:34,900
Freeman: SINGLE-CELLED ORGANISMS
ARE EVERYWHERE:
462
00:25:34,900 --> 00:25:39,500
IN THE SOIL, IN THE TREES,
IN OUR BODIES.
463
00:25:39,500 --> 00:25:43,067
THEY WERE AT THE GROUND FLOOR
OF EVOLUTION,
464
00:25:43,067 --> 00:25:44,767
BUT THEY ARE SO TINY,
465
00:25:44,767 --> 00:25:48,233
MILLIONS CAN FIT INTO THE EYE
OF A NEEDLE.
466
00:25:48,233 --> 00:25:49,633
UNTIL RECENTLY,
467
00:25:49,633 --> 00:25:53,367
WE COULD ONLY SEE HOW THESE
CREATURES FUNCTIONED AS A GROUP.
468
00:25:53,367 --> 00:25:56,833
WE COULDN'T SEE THE MOLECULAR
PROCESSES HAPPENING
469
00:25:56,833 --> 00:25:58,900
INSIDE INDIVIDUAL MICROBES.
470
00:25:58,900 --> 00:26:01,533
BUT THAT HAS ALL CHANGED.
471
00:26:03,967 --> 00:26:06,933
Mincer: IT'S A VERY EXCITING
TIME RIGHT NOW,
472
00:26:06,933 --> 00:26:11,167
BECAUSE WE CAN LOOK
AT REALLY BIG QUESTIONS
473
00:26:11,167 --> 00:26:15,700
THAT WERE ASKED 40 OR 50 YEARS
AGO IN SCIENCE
474
00:26:15,700 --> 00:26:17,400
BUT WERE UNANSWERABLE
475
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,267
BECAUSE OF THE LIMITATIONS
IN THE TECHNICAL TOOLS.
476
00:26:21,267 --> 00:26:23,833
NOW, WITH THE REVOLUTION
IN GENOMICS
477
00:26:23,833 --> 00:26:27,133
AND SEQUENCING AND MOLECULAR
BIOLOGY AND CLONING,
478
00:26:27,133 --> 00:26:30,100
WE CAN LOOK AT A SINGLE CELL
THAT'S GROWING
479
00:26:30,100 --> 00:26:33,533
AND SEE THE SIGNALS THAT ARE
BEING PRODUCED FROM IT
480
00:26:33,533 --> 00:26:37,400
AND UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING
AT THAT SINGLE-CELL LEVEL.
481
00:26:38,733 --> 00:26:41,833
Freeman: ONE WOULD EXPECT
MICROBES TO BE RULED
482
00:26:41,833 --> 00:26:44,400
BY THE MOST BASIC LAWS
OF NATURE,
483
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,200
SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST,
484
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,167
WHERE EVERY ORGANISM
FIGHTS FOR ITSELF,
485
00:26:49,167 --> 00:26:53,167
BUT TRACY HAS FOUND THAT
EVEN THESE SIMPLE CREATURES
486
00:26:53,167 --> 00:26:55,933
ARE CAPABLE OF COOPERATION.
487
00:26:55,933 --> 00:26:59,500
TRACY WATCHES HOW DIFFERENT
STRAINS OF MARINE BACTERIA
488
00:26:59,500 --> 00:27:03,633
DEFEND THEMSELVES
AGAINST PREDATORS.
489
00:27:03,633 --> 00:27:06,700
HE PLACES A STRAIN
OF VIBRIO ORDALII,
490
00:27:06,700 --> 00:27:11,100
A BACTERIUM THAT CAUSES DISEASE
IN FISH, IN A PETRI DISH.
491
00:27:11,100 --> 00:27:13,167
THEN HE ADDS BRINE SHRIMP,
492
00:27:13,167 --> 00:27:16,567
PREDATORS THAT LIKE TO MUNCH
ON BACTERIUM.
493
00:27:16,567 --> 00:27:17,967
IN SELF DEFENSE,
494
00:27:17,967 --> 00:27:22,067
SOME OF THE VIBRIO BACTERIA
BEGIN TO PRODUCE A TOXIN
495
00:27:22,067 --> 00:27:25,167
THAT KILLS THE PREDATORY
BRINE SHRIMP.
496
00:27:25,167 --> 00:27:29,067
THIS TOXIN DOES NOT KILL
VIBRIO'S CLOSEST RELATIVES,
497
00:27:29,067 --> 00:27:32,567
THE MEMBERS OF WHAT BIOLOGISTS
CALL ITS GUILD.
498
00:27:32,567 --> 00:27:35,700
WHAT'S STRIKING
IS THAT THEY NEVER KILLED
499
00:27:35,700 --> 00:27:37,433
WITHIN THEIR OWN GUILD.
500
00:27:37,433 --> 00:27:39,300
THEY KILLED ONLY OUTSIDE.
501
00:27:39,300 --> 00:27:41,633
Freeman:
EVEN MORE SURPRISINGLY,
502
00:27:41,633 --> 00:27:46,067
THE BACTERIA THAT MAKE THE
ANTIBIOTICS SACRIFICE THEMSELVES
503
00:27:46,067 --> 00:27:48,400
WHEN THEY KILL THE BRINE SHRIMP.
504
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,700
BY TAKING ONE FOR THE TEAM,
THEY PROTECT THE ENTIRE GROUP.
505
00:27:52,700 --> 00:27:56,700
DOWN AT THE LEVEL OF MICROBES,
WE SEE ALTRUISM:
506
00:27:56,700 --> 00:28:00,600
SELF-SACRIFICE
FOR THE GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY.
507
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,500
Mincer:
ALTRUISM HOLDS FOR MICROBES,
508
00:28:04,500 --> 00:28:08,567
BECAUSE OF THESE
GUILD-TYPE STRUCTURES
509
00:28:08,567 --> 00:28:12,067
WHERE IT REALLY IS FOR THE
BETTERMENT OF THE MICROBES
510
00:28:12,067 --> 00:28:15,567
TO BE ABLE TO SACRIFICE.
511
00:28:15,567 --> 00:28:18,133
SO, THINGS AREN'T ALWAYS
FIGHTING TO THE DEATH
512
00:28:18,133 --> 00:28:19,133
AT ALL TIMES.
513
00:28:19,133 --> 00:28:22,433
IT TAKES A GROUP EFFORT.
514
00:28:22,433 --> 00:28:24,800
Freeman:
FOR ORGANISMS TO COOPERATE,
515
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,567
THEY NEED TO COMMUNICATE,
516
00:28:26,567 --> 00:28:31,567
THE WAY THAT TRACY'S TEAM WORKS
TO GATHER SAMPLES.
517
00:28:31,567 --> 00:28:35,267
BUT HOW DO CREATURES WITH
NO BRAINS OR VOCAL CHORDS
518
00:28:35,267 --> 00:28:38,933
CONVEY A MESSAGE THAT CAUSES
THEM TO ACT TOGETHER?
519
00:28:42,133 --> 00:28:45,067
THE ANSWER IS EMBEDDED
IN NATURE.
520
00:28:45,067 --> 00:28:49,533
THERE IS A CHEMICAL FORM OF
COMMUNICATION WE CANNOT SEE
521
00:28:49,533 --> 00:28:52,867
BUT WHICH IS AN ESSENTIAL PART
OF LIFE.
522
00:28:52,867 --> 00:28:58,367
THE TREE BEHIND ME HAS ROOTS
TO GET AT ELEMENTAL NUTRIENTS,
523
00:28:58,367 --> 00:29:01,800
AND IT HAS A GIANT TRUNK
524
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,733
GOING UP TOWARDS THE LIGHT
525
00:29:03,733 --> 00:29:07,167
WHERE THIS BEAUTIFUL TREE
IS HARVESTING LIGHT.
526
00:29:07,167 --> 00:29:08,933
NOW, MICROBES HAVE
A REAL PROBLEM,
527
00:29:08,933 --> 00:29:10,933
BECAUSE THEY'RE --
THEY'RE REALLY TINY,
528
00:29:10,933 --> 00:29:14,767
AND FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO
CONNECT TO ELEMENTAL NUTRIENTS
529
00:29:14,767 --> 00:29:16,400
THAT THEY NEED
530
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,500
AND BE ABLE TO HAVE
AN ENERGY SOURCE,
531
00:29:18,500 --> 00:29:20,367
THEY HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.
532
00:29:20,367 --> 00:29:26,067
UNLIKE US, WHERE WE HAVE SIGHT
AND WE TALK AND CAN HEAR,
533
00:29:26,067 --> 00:29:27,700
MICROBES CAN'T DO ANY OF THAT.
534
00:29:27,700 --> 00:29:31,200
THEY RELY UPON CHEMISTRY
THAT THEY PRODUCE
535
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,300
TO BE ABLE TO SIGNAL
TO ONE ANOTHER.
536
00:29:34,300 --> 00:29:37,100
SO THEY HAVE TO WORK
WITH ONE ANOTHER
537
00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:40,100
AND COORDINATE WITH ONE ANOTHER
538
00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:43,767
OR FIGHT OTHERS
TO KEEP OTHERS OUT.
539
00:29:43,767 --> 00:29:47,200
Freeman:
INDIVIDUALS MAY BE SELFISH,
540
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,767
BUT EVEN THE SIMPLEST ORGANISMS
SEEM PROGRAMMED
541
00:29:49,767 --> 00:29:52,433
TO PUT THE SURVIVAL
OF THE SPECIES
542
00:29:52,433 --> 00:29:54,667
AHEAD OF THEIR OWN NEEDS.
543
00:29:54,667 --> 00:29:57,433
BUT AT WHAT POINT
IN OUR EVOLUTIONARY PAST
544
00:29:57,433 --> 00:30:01,367
DID WE MOVE BEYOND
EXPEDIENT COOPERATION
545
00:30:01,367 --> 00:30:04,300
AND DEVELOP A SENSE OF FAIRNESS?
546
00:30:04,300 --> 00:30:07,467
IT MAY BE LINKED TO THE ABILITY
OF PRIMATES
547
00:30:07,467 --> 00:30:11,033
TO COMMUNICATE
SOPHISTICATED EMOTIONS.
548
00:30:11,033 --> 00:30:13,867
THIS WOMAN HAS FOUND
549
00:30:13,867 --> 00:30:17,433
THAT WHILE INEQUALITY IS PART
OF OUR GENETIC ROOTS,
550
00:30:17,433 --> 00:30:20,433
SO IS A STRONG DESIRE
FOR FAIRNESS.
551
00:30:25,167 --> 00:30:28,567
WHEN A PRIDE OF LIONS
MAKES A KILL,
552
00:30:28,567 --> 00:30:32,867
THE DOMINANT MALE WILL
TAKE THE "LION'S SHARE."
553
00:30:32,867 --> 00:30:35,667
WE ACCEPT THIS AS NATURE'S WAY.
554
00:30:35,667 --> 00:30:39,600
BUT WHEN WE SEE THE RICH TAKING
MORE THAN THEY NEED,
555
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,300
WE CRY, "NOT FAIR."
556
00:30:42,300 --> 00:30:47,433
THIS CONCEPT OF FAIRNESS SEEMS
LIKE JUST A MODERN HUMAN IDEA,
557
00:30:47,433 --> 00:30:51,267
BUT COULD IT HAVE BEEN WOVEN
INTO US BY EVOLUTION?
558
00:30:51,267 --> 00:30:56,667
COULD OTHER SPECIES HAVE EVOLVED
TO RAGE AGAINST INEQUITY?
559
00:30:56,667 --> 00:31:03,500
CHIMPS SHARE 98.5%
OF THEIR GENES WITH HUMANS,
560
00:31:03,500 --> 00:31:05,800
AND LIKE THE DIVISION
BETWEEN THE SUPER RICH
561
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,733
AND EVERYONE ELSE
IN HUMAN SOCIETY,
562
00:31:07,733 --> 00:31:11,300
CHIMP SOCIETY
IS ALSO UNEQUALLY DIVIDED.
563
00:31:11,300 --> 00:31:15,133
A SMALL GROUP OF ALPHA MALES
CALLS THE SHOTS
564
00:31:15,133 --> 00:31:17,333
AND HOARDS THE RESOURCES,
565
00:31:17,333 --> 00:31:20,733
WHILE THE REST
LIVE OFF THE LEFTOVERS.
566
00:31:20,733 --> 00:31:23,433
THE CHIMPS LOWER IN SOCIAL RANK
ARE SICKER,
567
00:31:23,433 --> 00:31:25,567
PRODUCE MORE STRESS HORMONES,
568
00:31:25,567 --> 00:31:28,400
AND HAVE TROUBLE
FINDING SEXUAL PARTNERS.
569
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,500
BUT ACCORDING TO EVOLUTIONARY
BIOLOGIST SARAH BROSNAN,
570
00:31:32,500 --> 00:31:36,100
CHIMPS DON'T BLINDLY ACCEPT
THEIR LOT IN LIFE.
571
00:31:36,100 --> 00:31:39,800
SARAH IS THE DIRECTOR
OF THE COMPARATIVE ECONOMICS
572
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,467
AND BEHAVIORAL STUDIES
LABORATORY
573
00:31:42,467 --> 00:31:44,533
AT GEORGIA STATE UNIVERSITY.
574
00:31:44,533 --> 00:31:46,767
YOU NEED TO GO GET YOUR MOM
TO COME OUT HERE.
575
00:31:46,767 --> 00:31:48,067
SHE COULD USE SOME GRAPES.
576
00:31:48,067 --> 00:31:50,833
Freeman:
SHE LOOKS FOR THE ORIGINS
577
00:31:50,833 --> 00:31:53,067
OF HUMAN SOCIAL BEHAVIOR.
578
00:31:53,067 --> 00:31:56,767
Brosnan: I AM INTERESTED IN THE
EVOLUTION OF DECISION MAKING.
579
00:31:56,767 --> 00:31:59,867
HOW DID WE GET TO WHERE WE MAKE
THE DECISIONS THAT WE DO?
580
00:31:59,867 --> 00:32:02,867
AND YOU CAN'T, OBVIOUSLY,
STUDY FOSSILIZED DECISIONS,
581
00:32:02,867 --> 00:32:03,867
IN MOST CASES.
582
00:32:03,867 --> 00:32:06,100
SO WHAT WE DO IS
WE STUDY OTHER PRIMATES,
583
00:32:06,100 --> 00:32:08,267
BECAUSE AS WE OURSELVES
ARE PRIMATES,
584
00:32:08,267 --> 00:32:10,467
THEY'RE SORT OF THE CLOSEST
WE CAN GET
585
00:32:10,467 --> 00:32:12,900
TO UNDERSTANDING
THE EVOLUTIONARY HISTORY.
586
00:32:14,433 --> 00:32:16,233
[ OBJECT CLANGS ]
587
00:32:16,233 --> 00:32:19,633
Freeman: SARAH IS
PARTICULARLY INTERESTED
588
00:32:19,633 --> 00:32:23,833
IN HOW OUR PRIMATE COUSINS
RESPOND TO INEQUITY.
589
00:32:23,833 --> 00:32:25,500
Brosnan:
SO, INEQUALITY WOULD BE
590
00:32:25,500 --> 00:32:27,900
WHEN INDIVIDUALS DON'T GET
EXACTLY THE SAME THING,
591
00:32:27,900 --> 00:32:30,900
WHEREAS INEQUITY WOULD BE
WHEN YOU GET SOMETHING
592
00:32:30,900 --> 00:32:33,133
THAT'S NOT RELATIVE
TO THE INPUT.
593
00:32:33,133 --> 00:32:34,633
SO, UNEQUAL PAY WOULD BE
594
00:32:34,633 --> 00:32:37,067
WE DON'T GET EXACTLY
THE SAME AMOUNT.
595
00:32:37,067 --> 00:32:40,433
INEQUITABLE PAY WOULD BE
THAT MAYBE YOU DO A HARDER JOB
596
00:32:40,433 --> 00:32:43,500
THAN ME, BUT YOU'RE MAKING
THE SAME SALARY AS ME.
597
00:32:43,500 --> 00:32:46,733
Freeman: TODAY, SARAH IS
CONDUCTING AN EXPERIMENT
598
00:32:46,733 --> 00:32:48,333
WITH CAPUCHIN MONKEYS
599
00:32:48,333 --> 00:32:50,233
TO SEE HOW THEY RESPOND
600
00:32:50,233 --> 00:32:53,233
WHEN ONE MONKEY GETS A BETTER
REWARD THAN ANOTHER.
601
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,333
SO, WHAT WE DO IS,
WE TAKE TWO INDIVIDUALS
602
00:32:57,333 --> 00:32:58,567
FROM THE SAME SOCIAL GROUP,
603
00:32:58,567 --> 00:33:00,133
AND THEY SIT NEXT
TO ONE ANOTHER,
604
00:33:00,133 --> 00:33:01,467
AND THEY TAKE TURNS DOING A TASK
605
00:33:01,467 --> 00:33:02,967
AND GETTING A FOOD REWARD
FOR IT.
606
00:33:02,967 --> 00:33:05,200
SO YOU CAN THINK OF IT AS DOING
WORK AND GETTING PAID.
607
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,700
Freeman: AT FIRST, BOTH MONKEYS
GET BELL PEPPERS.
608
00:33:08,700 --> 00:33:10,900
HERE YOU GO.
609
00:33:10,900 --> 00:33:13,967
THEN ONE MONKEY IS REWARDED
WITH GRAPES.
610
00:33:13,967 --> 00:33:17,133
KEEP IN MIND,
THEY BOTH LIKE BELL PEPPERS,
611
00:33:17,133 --> 00:33:19,367
BUT THEY LIKE GRAPES EVEN MORE.
612
00:33:19,367 --> 00:33:24,167
AFTER SEEING HIS PARTNER PERFORM
THE SAME TRICK,
613
00:33:24,167 --> 00:33:29,333
BUT GET A BETTER REWARD,
THIS MONKEY LOSES HIS COOL.
614
00:33:29,333 --> 00:33:32,067
HE STARTS TOSSING HIS PEPPERS
ON THE FLOOR.
615
00:33:32,067 --> 00:33:33,833
Brosnan:
I WAS REALLY SURPRISED
616
00:33:33,833 --> 00:33:36,767
WHEN WE GOT INDIVIDUALS
ACTIVELY REFUSING FOOD REWARDS.
617
00:33:36,767 --> 00:33:39,100
SO THAT'S LIKE GIVING YOUR DOG
A MILK-BONE
618
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:40,600
AND HAVING THEM TURN IT DOWN
619
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,533
BECAUSE THE DOG DOWN THE STREET
GOT A BIGGER MILK-BONE.
620
00:33:43,533 --> 00:33:46,333
YOU JUST DON'T EXPECT SOMETHING
LIKE THAT TO HAPPEN.
621
00:33:46,333 --> 00:33:48,833
Freeman: ANIMALS ARE WILLING
TO ACCEPT
622
00:33:48,833 --> 00:33:52,333
THAT A DOMINANT MALE OR FEMALE
MAY GET BETTER FOOD
623
00:33:52,333 --> 00:33:54,067
AND A LITTLE MORE OF IT,
624
00:33:54,067 --> 00:33:55,900
BUT SARAH'S RESEARCH SHOWS
625
00:33:55,900 --> 00:33:59,233
THERE COMES A POINT
WHERE THEY WON'T ACCEPT IT.
626
00:33:59,233 --> 00:34:02,800
AND THE ANIMALS IN POWER
SEEM TO REALIZE THIS.
627
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,600
SOME HAVE EVEN REFUSED
THE GRAPES
628
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,067
WHEN THEY HAVE SEEN
THEIR PARTNER IS UPSET.
629
00:34:09,067 --> 00:34:11,200
JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE
THE DOMINANT INDIVIDUAL,
630
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:12,400
TYPICALLY AN ALPHA MALE,
631
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,533
DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU GET
ANYTHING YOU WANT.
632
00:34:14,533 --> 00:34:16,367
SO THEY TYPICALLY HAVE
FIRST ACCESS,
633
00:34:16,367 --> 00:34:17,900
OR THEY MIGHT HAVE BETTER ACCESS
634
00:34:17,900 --> 00:34:19,833
OR BE ABLE TO GET
THE BETTER REWARDS,
635
00:34:19,833 --> 00:34:20,900
IF THEY'RE LIMITED,
636
00:34:20,900 --> 00:34:22,867
BUT THEY CAN'T JUST TAKE
WHAT THEY WANT.
637
00:34:22,867 --> 00:34:24,100
FOR STARTERS,
638
00:34:24,100 --> 00:34:26,100
THEY NEED THE OTHER INDIVIDUALS
IN THE GROUP,
639
00:34:26,100 --> 00:34:28,400
SO THEY NEED TO GIVE
THE OTHER INDIVIDUALS
640
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,700
SUFFICIENT INCENTIVE
TO STAY IN THE GROUP.
641
00:34:30,700 --> 00:34:34,367
Freeman: SARAH HAS FOUND
THE ALPHA IS LESS A DICTATOR
642
00:34:34,367 --> 00:34:37,767
AND MORE A LEADER
OF A COALITION GOVERNMENT.
643
00:34:37,767 --> 00:34:39,100
TO KEEP HIS JOB,
644
00:34:39,100 --> 00:34:42,400
HE HAS TO MAINTAIN THE SUPPORT
OF MONKEYS
645
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,400
AT ALL LEVELS OF SOCIETY.
646
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,600
HE MUST OBSERVE SOCIAL RULES,
647
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,933
AND ONE OF THE MOST
DEEPLY INGRAINED RULES
648
00:34:49,933 --> 00:34:52,800
IS TO BE FAIR
TO THE OTHER MONKEYS.
649
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,333
LIKE OTHER PRIMATES,
650
00:34:54,333 --> 00:34:57,900
HUMANS ALSO ACCEPT A CERTAIN
AMOUNT OF INEQUALITY,
651
00:34:57,900 --> 00:35:03,167
BUT MOST OF US
CANNOT ABIDE INEQUITY.
652
00:35:03,167 --> 00:35:04,467
SO, A HUMAN SENSE OF FAIRNESS
653
00:35:04,467 --> 00:35:05,733
IS MORE THAN JUST NOT LIKING
654
00:35:05,733 --> 00:35:07,467
WHEN YOU GET LESS
THAN SOMEONE ELSE.
655
00:35:07,467 --> 00:35:08,600
REALLY, WHAT WE MEAN
656
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,800
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A HUMAN SENSE
OF FAIRNESS
657
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,600
IS THIS ALMOST MORAL OBLIGATION
TO TREAT PEOPLE EQUALLY,
658
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,200
TO HAVE THINGS WORK OUT EQUALLY.
659
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,067
THIS MAY BE THE UNDERLYING
DRIVING FORCE FOR THE EVOLUTION
660
00:35:18,067 --> 00:35:19,367
OF THE SENSE OF FAIRNESS.
661
00:35:19,367 --> 00:35:21,300
MAYBE BY HAVING A SENSE
OF FAIRNESS,
662
00:35:21,300 --> 00:35:23,133
IT ALLOWS YOU TO BE
A BETTER JUDGE
663
00:35:23,133 --> 00:35:25,167
OF WHEN YOU'RE WITH A GOOD,
COOPERATIVE PARTNER,
664
00:35:25,167 --> 00:35:26,667
AND WHEN IT'S TIME
TO GO FIND SOMEBODY ELSE
665
00:35:26,667 --> 00:35:27,933
WHO MIGHT BE BETTER.
666
00:35:27,933 --> 00:35:31,700
Freeman: THE BATTLES BETWEEN
SELFISHNESS AND FAIRNESS
667
00:35:31,700 --> 00:35:34,767
KEEPS US MOVING FORWARD
AS A SOCIETY.
668
00:35:34,767 --> 00:35:38,633
BUT WHEN INDIVIDUALS ACT
WITH EXTREME SELFISHNESS,
669
00:35:38,633 --> 00:35:41,300
THEIR BEHAVIOR CAN PUT
MANY OTHERS AT RISK.
670
00:35:41,300 --> 00:35:44,167
THEY CAN LEAD TO REVOLT.
671
00:35:44,167 --> 00:35:47,800
BOTH APES AND HUMANS
WILL OVERTHROW LEADERS
672
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,667
WHO ABUSE THEIR POWER.
673
00:35:49,667 --> 00:35:52,867
PERHAPS THERE'S A GENTLER WAY.
674
00:35:52,867 --> 00:35:54,300
IN HUMAN SOCIETIES,
675
00:35:54,300 --> 00:35:57,867
A WEALTHY FEW MAY LORD IT OVER
A VAST LOWER CLASS,
676
00:35:57,867 --> 00:36:00,600
BUT THE POOR DO HAVE POWER.
677
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,833
THEY CAN USE THE INNATE
HUMAN INSTINCT FOR FAIRNESS
678
00:36:04,833 --> 00:36:06,233
AS A SECRET WEAPON.
679
00:36:10,300 --> 00:36:14,933
UNEQUAL DISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH
IS AS OLD AS HISTORY,
680
00:36:14,933 --> 00:36:17,600
AND SO IS RESENTMENT ABOUT IT.
681
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:22,400
THE RICHEST 85 PEOPLE
ON THIS PLANET
682
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:28,233
HAVE AS MUCH MONEY
AS THE POOREST 3.5 BILLION.
683
00:36:28,233 --> 00:36:32,400
HOW CAN WE SHRINK
THE EVER-WIDENING DIVIDE
684
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,100
BETWEEN THE HAVES
AND THE HAVE NOTS?
685
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,633
JENNIFER JACQUET IS A CLINICAL
ASSISTANT PROFESSOR
686
00:36:50,633 --> 00:36:53,967
OF ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES
AT NEW YORK UNIVERSITY.
687
00:36:53,967 --> 00:36:57,067
LATELY, SHE'S BEEN CONTEMPLATING
A PHENOMENON
688
00:36:57,067 --> 00:37:00,867
CALLED THE TRAGEDY
OF THE COMMONS.
689
00:37:00,867 --> 00:37:04,800
IT HAS ITS ROOTS
IN MANKIND'S AGRARIAN PAST.
690
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,133
THE COMMONS IS A PASTURE
WHERE HERDSMEN CAN DECIDE
691
00:37:07,133 --> 00:37:08,933
WHETHER OR NOT TO GRAZE
THEIR CATTLE.
692
00:37:08,933 --> 00:37:13,100
THE BENEFITS OF ADDING A SINGLE
COW ARE INDIVIDUALIZED,
693
00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:15,067
BUT THE COSTS OF ADDING THAT COW
694
00:37:15,067 --> 00:37:17,367
ARE SHARED AMONG
ALL THE HERDSMEN,
695
00:37:17,367 --> 00:37:19,767
AND THIS IS THE TRAGEDY
OF THE COMMONS:
696
00:37:19,767 --> 00:37:22,633
THE TENSION BETWEEN THE
INDIVIDUAL AND THE GROUP.
697
00:37:22,633 --> 00:37:25,400
AND THE REAL PROBLEM
IS THAT JUST ONE HERDSMAN
698
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,533
WHO DECIDES TO ADD
TOO MANY CATTLE
699
00:37:27,533 --> 00:37:31,067
CAN RUIN IT FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.
700
00:37:31,067 --> 00:37:35,067
Freeman: THE TRAGEDY OF
THE COMMONS, JENNIFER SAYS,
701
00:37:35,067 --> 00:37:37,200
IS NOW A GLOBAL TRAGEDY,
702
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,467
A TRAGEDY THAT IS
BEING ACCELERATED
703
00:37:40,467 --> 00:37:43,867
BY THE SELFISHNESS
OF THE SUPER RICH.
704
00:37:43,867 --> 00:37:46,667
Jacquet:
THERE'S THE GLOBAL OCEANS.
705
00:37:46,667 --> 00:37:48,200
THERE'S THE ATMOSPHERE.
706
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,267
THERE ARE THE GLOBAL FORESTS.
707
00:37:50,267 --> 00:37:51,967
THERE ARE MIGRATORY BIRDS.
708
00:37:51,967 --> 00:37:53,533
THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS
709
00:37:53,533 --> 00:37:57,100
THAT BEHAVE EXACTLY
LIKE THIS COMMON PASTURE.
710
00:37:57,100 --> 00:37:58,467
SO WE NOW LIVE IN A WORLD
711
00:37:58,467 --> 00:38:00,733
IN WHICH A VERY SMALL
MINORITY OF PEOPLE
712
00:38:00,733 --> 00:38:03,100
IS CAPABLE OF RUINING IT
FOR EVERYONE ELSE.
713
00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:06,600
Freeman: TYPICALLY, SOCIETY
KEEPS CITIZENS IN LINE
714
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,133
BY THE RULE OF LAW.
715
00:38:08,133 --> 00:38:09,833
BUT AROUND THE WORLD,
716
00:38:09,833 --> 00:38:14,167
THE EXTREMELY WEALTHY ARE OFTEN
ABLE TO CIRCUMVENT THE LAW
717
00:38:14,167 --> 00:38:17,100
OR HAVE LAWS CHANGED
TO SUIT THEM.
718
00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:19,500
SO HOW DO WE STOP THESE PEOPLE
719
00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:22,600
FROM DEPLETING
OUR SHARED RESOURCES?
720
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,067
REVOLUTIONS HAVE BEEN FOUGHT
OVER SUCH THINGS,
721
00:38:26,067 --> 00:38:32,733
BUT JENNIFER ARGUES THE ONLY
SENSIBLE RECOURSE IS SHAME.
722
00:38:32,733 --> 00:38:34,067
SO, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SHAME,
723
00:38:34,067 --> 00:38:36,133
WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY TALKING
ABOUT IS A TOOL,
724
00:38:36,133 --> 00:38:37,167
A TYPE OF PUNISHMENT.
725
00:38:37,167 --> 00:38:38,700
THE THREAT OF EXPOSURE,
726
00:38:38,700 --> 00:38:41,300
THIS IDEA THAT
WE COULD SHOW THE CROWD
727
00:38:41,300 --> 00:38:43,233
THAT YOU HAVEN'T BEEN BEHAVING
728
00:38:43,233 --> 00:38:45,833
LIKE THE REST OF THE GROUP
WOULD LIKE,
729
00:38:45,833 --> 00:38:48,333
THIS IS THE TYPE OF SHAME
I EXAMINE.
730
00:38:48,333 --> 00:38:52,267
Freeman: TODAY, JENNIFER
IS RUNNING AN EXPERIMENT
731
00:38:52,267 --> 00:38:55,400
DEMONSTRATING
THE POWER OF SHAME.
732
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,500
IT REVEALS THE DIFFERENCE
IN PEOPLE'S BEHAVIOR
733
00:38:58,500 --> 00:39:00,633
WHEN THEIR IDENTITIES ARE HIDDEN
734
00:39:00,633 --> 00:39:04,067
VERSUS WHEN THEIR ACTIONS
ARE EXPOSED TO THE GROUP.
735
00:39:04,067 --> 00:39:08,833
EACH PLAYER IS GIVEN THE CHOICE
TO CONTRIBUTE OR NOT CONTRIBUTE
736
00:39:08,833 --> 00:39:10,300
TO A COMMON POOL.
737
00:39:10,300 --> 00:39:13,867
WHATEVER MONEY GOES
INTO THE COMMON POOL
738
00:39:13,867 --> 00:39:16,967
IS DOUBLED
AND THEN REDISTRIBUTED.
739
00:39:16,967 --> 00:39:19,500
IF EVERYBODY PUTS IN A DOLLAR,
740
00:39:19,500 --> 00:39:23,367
IN EACH OF 10 ROUNDS,
THEY ALL GET $20 BACK.
741
00:39:23,367 --> 00:39:25,967
THAT IS, IF THEY ALL PLAY FAIR.
742
00:39:25,967 --> 00:39:29,267
THAT ALMOST IS NEVER
THE WAY THE GAME IS PLAYED.
743
00:39:29,267 --> 00:39:31,367
PEOPLE OFTEN LEAVE WITH FAR LESS
744
00:39:31,367 --> 00:39:33,867
THAN THE SOCIALLY
OPTIMAL OUTCOME,
745
00:39:33,867 --> 00:39:36,567
AND THAT'S BECAUSE
CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS
746
00:39:36,567 --> 00:39:39,333
START PULLING OUT
AND STOP COOPERATING.
747
00:39:39,333 --> 00:39:42,500
Freeman: MOST CONTRIBUTE
TO THE COMMON POOL,
748
00:39:42,500 --> 00:39:44,433
EXCEPT THESE PLAYERS.
749
00:39:44,433 --> 00:39:45,900
THEY KEEP THEIR $10,
750
00:39:45,900 --> 00:39:49,800
BUT STILL TAKE AN EQUAL SHARE
FROM THE DOUBLED COMMUNAL POT.
751
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:54,167
SO THEY END UP MAKING MORE
THAN THEIR CLASSMATES,
752
00:39:54,167 --> 00:39:56,267
AND THEY GET AWAY WITH IT
753
00:39:56,267 --> 00:39:59,500
BECAUSE NO ONE KNOWS
WHO IS CHEATING.
754
00:39:59,500 --> 00:40:02,533
BUT NOW JENNIFER
RUNS THE EXPERIMENT AGAIN,
755
00:40:02,533 --> 00:40:04,633
ADDING IN THE ELEMENT OF SHAME.
756
00:40:04,633 --> 00:40:06,533
AT THE END OF THE 10th ROUND,
757
00:40:06,533 --> 00:40:09,133
THE REAL NAMES
OF THE TWO PARTICIPANTS
758
00:40:09,133 --> 00:40:10,800
WHO DONATED LEAST OVERALL
759
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,167
ARE REVEALED
TO THE OTHER PLAYERS.
760
00:40:13,167 --> 00:40:15,867
Freeman:
THE THREAT OF BEING EXPOSED
761
00:40:15,867 --> 00:40:18,067
CHANGES THE WAY PEOPLE PLAY.
762
00:40:18,067 --> 00:40:23,900
NOW ALMOST EVERYONE PUTS IN
THEIR FAIR SHARE.
763
00:40:23,900 --> 00:40:25,433
SO THE THREAT OF SHAME
764
00:40:25,433 --> 00:40:27,967
ACTUALLY LED TO
50% MORE COOPERATION
765
00:40:27,967 --> 00:40:31,367
THAN THE ANONYMOUS --
COMPLETELY ANONYMOUS CONTROL.
766
00:40:33,333 --> 00:40:37,433
Freeman: SO, WHAT ARE THE
REAL-WORLD EFFECTS OF THIS?
767
00:40:37,433 --> 00:40:39,100
Jacquet: SO, IN 2008,
768
00:40:39,100 --> 00:40:42,967
THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT
GAVE BANKS $245 BILLION
769
00:40:42,967 --> 00:40:44,367
IN BAILOUT MONEY.
770
00:40:44,367 --> 00:40:47,500
MANY OF THE BANKS
DECIDED TO GIVE BONUSES
771
00:40:47,500 --> 00:40:49,633
THAT ADDED UP TO $20 BILLION.
772
00:40:49,633 --> 00:40:50,833
DURING THAT TIME,
773
00:40:50,833 --> 00:40:53,933
PRESIDENT OBAMA CALLED
THOSE BONUSES "SHAMEFUL,"
774
00:40:53,933 --> 00:40:57,100
AND THAT'S IN PART BECAUSE
THERE WAS NO FORMAL MECHANISM
775
00:40:57,100 --> 00:41:01,300
IN WHICH TO PUNISH THE BANKS
FOR HAVING DONE THAT.
776
00:41:01,300 --> 00:41:03,967
SO HE SORT OF CALLED ON
THE CROWD TO COME IN AND SAY,
777
00:41:03,967 --> 00:41:06,700
"THIS IS NOT
APPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR."
778
00:41:06,700 --> 00:41:08,833
MANY BANKERS
DIDN'T SEE IT THAT WAY.
779
00:41:08,833 --> 00:41:12,200
THEY SAW IT AS
PERFECTLY NORMAL BEHAVIOR.
780
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,700
Freeman: SHAMEFUL BEHAVIOR IS
IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER.
781
00:41:16,700 --> 00:41:18,867
MOST OF THE SUPER RICH
WOULD ARGUE
782
00:41:18,867 --> 00:41:20,867
THEY ARE NOT BREAKING
ANY SOCIAL RULES.
783
00:41:20,867 --> 00:41:23,633
IN FACT, THEIR INVESTMENTS
CREATE JOBS
784
00:41:23,633 --> 00:41:26,833
AND MAKE THE ENTIRE ECONOMY
THRIVE AND GROW.
785
00:41:26,833 --> 00:41:30,900
BUT THERE WILL ALWAYS BE A FEW
PEOPLE AT ANY INCOME LEVEL
786
00:41:30,900 --> 00:41:34,067
WHO ARE WILLING TO CHEAT
TO MAKE A PROFIT.
787
00:41:34,067 --> 00:41:39,100
WHEN THOSE PEOPLE ARE CALLED OUT
BY NAME IN FRONT OF A CROWD,
788
00:41:39,100 --> 00:41:41,133
SHAME CAN BE EFFECTIVE.
789
00:41:41,133 --> 00:41:44,267
CALIFORNIA HAS STARTED
LISTING THE NAMES
790
00:41:44,267 --> 00:41:47,833
OF THE STATE'S TOP 500
TAX DELINQUENTS ONLINE,
791
00:41:47,833 --> 00:41:53,800
USING SHAME TO COERCE THEM
TO PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE.
792
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,567
BUT IS THE POWER OF SHAME ENOUGH
793
00:41:56,567 --> 00:41:59,800
TO CLOSE THE GAP
BETWEEN RICH AND POOR?
794
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,567
Brosnan: THERE ARE NO
SIMPLE SOLUTIONS, OF COURSE.
795
00:42:02,567 --> 00:42:05,233
THESE PROBLEMS ARE --
ARE GIGANTIC AND DIFFICULT.
796
00:42:05,233 --> 00:42:09,100
SHAME IS RELATIVELY CHEAP
IN TERMS OF PUNISHMENT,
797
00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:11,233
AND RELATIVELY INEFFECTIVE.
798
00:42:11,233 --> 00:42:13,100
BUT SOMETIMES IT'S ALL WE HAVE.
799
00:42:17,067 --> 00:42:23,400
I AM LIVING PROOF
THAT POVERTY IS NOT GENETIC.
800
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,433
I'VE LIVED ON BOTH SIDES
OF THE DIVIDE
801
00:42:26,433 --> 00:42:28,167
BETWEEN RICH AND POOR.
802
00:42:28,167 --> 00:42:32,567
THE FORCES THAT DISTRIBUTE
WEALTH AMONG US ARE COMPLICATED.
803
00:42:32,567 --> 00:42:36,833
THEY'RE A MIXTURE OF BIOLOGY,
PSYCHOLOGY, AND MATHEMATICS
804
00:42:36,833 --> 00:42:39,067
PLAYING OUT OVER LIFETIMES
805
00:42:39,067 --> 00:42:42,233
AND ACROSS THE SWEEP
OF HUMAN HISTORY.
806
00:42:42,233 --> 00:42:45,233
IF WE CAN UNDERSTAND
THOSE FORCES,
807
00:42:45,233 --> 00:42:49,667
I HOPE WE CAN SOMEDAY LESSEN
THE DEVASTATION OF POVERTY
808
00:42:49,667 --> 00:42:53,700
AND ALLOW EACH OF US TO
REACH OUR FULL POTENTIAL.
64690
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