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[narrator] In the late 1800s,
Physical Culture magazine was a pioneer
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for having fitness models
grace their covers.
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They were considered
too racy for the times
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and overcame an obscenity conviction
in 1909 from the Supreme Court,
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which made them
instantly more successful.
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Fitness magazines
became the source of information
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for health, fitness, physical development
and bodybuilding.
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Many emerged over the years
and if you were a fitness model,
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your goal was to be on the cover
of a prestigious fitness magazine.
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As contests like Mr. America
and Mr. Universe were created,
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so were great physiques
like Steve Reeves.
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Steve embodied model good looks
built for Hollywood,
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and people took notice.
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The International Federation
of Bodybuilding
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was founded by Ben and Joe Weider
in 1946,
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and popularity continued to grow
for the sport.
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The IFBB conceived
the elite bodybuilding competition,
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Mr. Olympia, in 1965,
and the quest for muscle emerged,
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as did bodybuilding stars
and fierce competitors
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like Frank Zane
and Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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Arnold Schwarzenegger
had the size that men admired,
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and Frank Zane
had the symmetry that men desired.
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Bodybuilding slowly began to shift
over the decades from the Greek-God look
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to the extreme muscle monsters of today,
tipping the scales at over 250 pounds.
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Genetics aside, this new mass of muscle
is not an obtainable look for most men
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to achieve nor desire, and many gave up
pursuing extreme bodybuilding.
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A new boost in men's fitness modeling
competitions started to take hold,
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and the IFBB took notice
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and created the new division
of Men's Physique,
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which shifted the aesthetics
back to the classic bodybuilding days
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of 30 years ago, where men have
a more flattering look with small waists,
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a V-taper,
and perfect muscular proportions.
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The approach between a fitness model
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and an IFBB Men's Physique Pro competitor
differ by the fact
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that fitness models stay roughly between
five to seven percent body fat daily,
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ready year-round for any given
moment's notice for a photo shoot.
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The competitors have an on and off season
preparing for the shows.
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In the off-season,
they bulk up to pack on the muscle gains,
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and their body fat can be as high
as 12 percent,
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then they start the leaning-out process
at 12 to 16 weeks before a competition,
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with their body fat dropping considerably
to three to four percent range
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to achieve a dry and extremely shredded
aesthetic physique.
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The better conditioning
of the lean muscle mass,
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the better their show results.
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And since the average man
can achieve this body of muscle
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with the right lifestyle of diet
and training,
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the popularity of fitness modeling
and competing has gained momentum.
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Before there was physique, you know,
there's always been fitness modeling,
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and there's been bodybuilding,
but [stammers] I never got the size
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and I never really wanted
to be as big as a bodybuilder.
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So I made it to the national level
um, for bodybuilding,
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and I remember being backstage,
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and they said, "Look,
you've got great genetics,
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you know, you've got a good marketable
look,
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you could turn pro in bodybuilding,
for sure.
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It's gonna take you ten, 15 years."
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And not that I wasn't willing
to put in that time,
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it's just I know my body
and I know my frame.
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And to support anything over 200 pounds,
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or even close to that, for me,
is really stretching it.
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So I'm not gonna keep trying
to gain and gain and gain.
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I'm just gonna fine-tune
until it's a perfect sculpture.
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There's no hiding anything.
Once the stage lights hit you, it's there.
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You're gonna see
who cheated on their diet,
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who cheated on their last few reps,
you know.
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Then you're gonna see the guys like me,
you know, that went above and beyond.
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When I did get my pro card,
it was amazing.
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It was better than winning
my first pro show.
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You sacrifice for so many years,
and it finally happens.
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I was on cloud nine for weeks.
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No one even knew who I was.
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Stepping on stage in my pro debut in 2013
Greater Gulf winner
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and your new Olympia-qualified athlete,
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and they said, "Olympia-qualified athlete,
Jeremy Buendia."
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And I'm just like, I just sat there
and thought like, "I'm going to Olympia."
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Men's Physique is new.
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And it wasn't around when I started.
If it was, maybe I would've done it.
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Being always ready in two days
out from a shoot paid dividends
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because I have photographers
that will call me
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because somebody came in,
and they were out of shape,
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or, uh, they call me because they know
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I'm gonna be shredded to the bone,
and they don't have to worry about it.
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It's never about
what you looked like yesterday.
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It's never about the picture you submit.
What do you look like right now?
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I did a magazine cover
that's actually coming out next month.
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And the guy texts me
at eight in the morning,
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very professional photographer,
and said send in a picture right now,
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that he could forward on to the magazine.
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If they liked it,
I shot the very next day.
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Usually, they schedule ahead,
[stammers] and you know,
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they can give you a little bit of time,
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but they don't care
what you say you're gonna look like.
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There's no integrity in fitness modeling.
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[chuckles] There is none.
The body is so hard to manipulate.
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Never thought in a million years
I'd be on a magazine cover.
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Every single cover I look at,
in some way, like a little trophy.
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Magazines were a way for me
to build a brand, in a sense,
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and to build up my name
as a fitness model or fitness expert,
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um, which then allowed me
to start getting endorsement deals
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from the supplement companies,
then allowed me to start shooting
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all these products, uh, infomercials,
and commercials.
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Shot with everybody
who you could ever think of
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like Robert Reiff, I mean,
all the best photographers,
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and landed my first cover,
my first fitness cover,
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so that was like a dream come true.
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Arnold's doing this new encyclopedia
of bodybuilding,
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and he wants you to shoot the ab section.
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They've got me doing
all these weird ab exercises.
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[stammers] Anrnold walks in and he says,
"I never have abs like you."
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I said, "Well, coming from you,
that's quite a compliment."
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And I remember there were ab exercises
I could not do.
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And he's like, "You're the abs guy.
How can you not do these jackknives."
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And I'm like,
"I-- Arnold, I don't do jackknives.
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I've never done a frickin' jackknife."
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I don't even know
what a jackknife is, you know.
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They want me, you know, with my legs up
over my head, touch--
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Coming up, touching my hands,
doing all these weird variations,
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and I'm like, "I don't bend like that."
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So he's like, "Hey, Bill,
do you have any fishing wire?
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We will tie it around his shoe
and then I hold it off screen,
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and that's what we call movie magic."
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[laughs] And I said,
"This is Arnold Schwarzenegger."
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I mean, I'm sitting here
in these little skimpy-ass gym shorts,
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I'm trying to do like sit-ups,
Bill's taking pictures.
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Bill's like, "No, no, we don't have any."
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So he's like, "Okay, forget it.
I'll just hold him myself.
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Come, I'll hold you.
You just photoshop me out, Bill." Right?
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So we got the shots, and I just thought,
this is so frickin' surreal.
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["Inner Fire" playing]
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-♪ Hunger
-Hunger ♪
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-♪ Hunger
-Feel like hunger ♪
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-♪ Hunger
-They're watching me ♪
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♪ The battle starts ♪
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♪ Every day when you wake up ♪
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♪ Be easy, boy ♪
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♪ Ooh ♪
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♪ Is wishing you could measure up ♪
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-♪ Inner fire
-Inner fire ♪
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-♪ Inner fire
-Inner fire ♪
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-♪ Inner fire
-Inner fire ♪
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♪ Oh, it's what you need ♪
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♪ Inner fire ♪
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♪ Inner fire ♪
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♪ Inner fire ♪
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♪ It's what you need ♪
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♪ Ooh ♪
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♪ Pride of the lion ♪
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♪ He is the leader of the pack ♪
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♪ There's no denying ♪
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♪ The hunger waiting to attack ♪
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♪ Inner fire, Inner fire ♪
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♪ Inner fire ♪
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♪ It's what you need ♪
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-♪ Feel the hunger
-Hunger ♪
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♪ Hunger, hunger, it's what you need ♪
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♪ Ooh ♪
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-♪ Feel the hunger
-Feel the hunger ♪
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[narrator]
Greg Plitt is truly a fitness icon.
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He has appeared
on more than 200 magazine covers
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and at least one cover every month,
for the last five years.
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Motivational speaker, actor,
and ex-Army Ranger.
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Jeremy Buendia
is an IFBB Men's Physique Pro,
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reigning Mr. Olympia Champion,
and endorsed athlete.
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[exhales sharply]
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TJ Hoban is a top fitness model,
working actor.
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He has graced over 100 magazine covers,
endorsed over 30 products,
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and has appeared on numerous TV shows.
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That's what we do. [exhales]
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Sadik Hadzovic
is an IFBB Men's Physique Pro,
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first ever Arnold Classic Champion,
Olympia runner-up, and endorsed athlete.
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Another day in paradise.
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Matt Christianer is the first ever
IFBB Men's Physique Pro
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and endorsed athlete.
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David Kimmerle is a top fitness model
and has been on over 60 magazine covers,
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and romance novels, and endorsed athlete.
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♪ I say, push 'em down ♪
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David Morin is a top fitness model
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appearing on numerous magazine covers
and publications,
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an endorsed athlete, and gym owner.
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♪ Get 'em out ♪
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♪ Find your way
Without a doubt ♪
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Jason Poston
is an IFBB Men's Physique Pro,
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third on the Olympia stage,
and an endorsed athlete.
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Colin Wayne is a fitness model
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appearing on numerous magazine covers
and novels,
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social media sensation,
and an ex-Army Staff Sergeant.
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Tonnell Rodrigue
is an IFBB Men's Physique Pro athlete.
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This is gonna hurt a little.
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Dennis "The Menace" James
is an IFBB Pro Bodybuilder
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who's appeared on the Olympia stage
a staggering 11 times,
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intense pro trainer, prep coach,
and an endorsed athlete.
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Nice and slow, there you go.
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Five of the top fitness cover models
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and five of the top
IFBB Men's Physique Pro athletes
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were brought together
to share their lifestyles,
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their life stories,
their intense drive and determination,
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and their enduring sacrifices,
which makes them
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some of the best physiques in the world.
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-Hey, man, take my seat.
-Cool, man. How you doing, man?
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-Good to see you, bro.
-Good to see you again.
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-Everybody doing good?
-Great to see you, man.
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-Yeah, you too, you too.
-What's up.
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What's up, man? Hey, what's up, man.
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Going all around, man, all around.
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What's up buddy? Good to see you, man.
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[Dennis] How important is genetics?
What do you guys think?
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A guy with genetics
versus a guy with less genetics.
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-[TJ] Does heart count?
-Heart, of course, heart is--
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[stammers] I think, for me,
heart is more important than genetics.
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-[TJ] In everything?
-Yeah.
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-[TJ] In business, in fitness?
-If you don't have the heart,
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the greatest genetics on the planet,
it's not gonna help you.
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-[TJ] Yeah.
- Genetics can take you so far.
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We could say Jeremy has superior
genetics. That's just my opinion.
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I think we've seen the first physique guy
that does.
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How do we know that, genetically,
Jeremy has better genetics than he does
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unless we do like some type
of crazy scientific evaluation?
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The truth is, what-- You just focus
on what you can focus on.
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It's-- What is Jeremy doing
versus what are you doing.
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[grunts]
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I've always had a good set of shoulders
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so when I go to the gym,
that's the last thing I'm gonna do.
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I have weak calves.
When I go in the gym, when I'm fresh,
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when I'm strong,
that's when I push my calves.
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You have to be realistic
with yourself and your physique.
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Every action has, you know, a purpose.
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[Greg] Every action has a result.
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And then we never get burned out
because hard work pays off.
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We start to see the transformation,
then we get addicted to it.
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So basically you're saying,
when something is lacking,
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you got to train it more often.
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If you've got 12-inch calves
and 17-inch arms,
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then you're training your arms heavier
than your calves.
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[David Morin] Genetics can be,
to a certain point, manipulated.
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If I'm not training the muscle that--
Like a calf, that kind of gets forgotten,
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is my excuse the fact that I have small
calves or is the fact that I've just...
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I didn't man up and I didn't train it.
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I got a case of pussitis
and I left them out.
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The other things that genetics
will help determine is, uh...
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you know, your shape.
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You know,
[stammers] the lines in your definition.
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[Dennis] Do you have an eight-pack?
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Do you have a eight or a ten
or a six-pack or a four-pack?
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And no matter how lean you get,
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it's not gonna change [stammers] your..
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you know, certain things about your body
structure.
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[Sadik exhaling]
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[Sadik] Although I worked out at home
for many years,
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I still didn't feel comfortable
to be in a gym.
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I was like, "I'm not big enough
to be in the gym."
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People are gonna look at me,
you know, so I didn't.
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I never felt like I belonged.
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So the gym, for me, was more, uh...
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Number one, it was an escape,
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but it was also a place
where I got to prove myself.
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I remember my first gym membership,
I was 17 years old.
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My brother and I,
we helped my neighbor move out,
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and she's like, "Please give this $200,
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100 to your brother
and 100 you keep for yourself."
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So I did something wrong
and I took all $200,
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and I bought my first gym membership,
you know.
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I bought a few months at a local gym,
and it all started like that.
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I told my brother, after the Olympia,
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and I was, "Hey man, you know,
I owe you a $100." [laughs]
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I gravitated towards TV 'cause
that's all I... you know, that's all I...
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All I saw was, you know,
Arnold Schwarzenegger,
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Sylvester Stallone, guys like this,
you know.
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I used to watch wrestling, so these guys,
one thing they all had in common
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was they had incredible bodies,
and they exuded this confidence.
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So, you know, growing up,
I always just did a bunch of pushups,
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a bunch of pull-ups,
you know, anything I could do.
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I used to do,
maybe thousand bicep curls a day,
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for years and years and years.
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I wouldn't gain any muscle
but at least I was trying to, you know.
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And eventually, it all clicked,
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And I guess that's what it was,
I was trying to find myself.
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-Come on, Sadik, come on.
-Come on. Come on.
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[Sadik] I could count on one hand
the amount of gym sessions
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I missed in the last five years, you know.
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It's very few, you know. So I work out,
you know, twice a day every day.
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I love it.
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One injury can be career ending.
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[stammers] And you know, all depends
how bad of an injury it is.
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It could be a pec tear,
it could be a biceps tear. It's over.
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You know what I mean?
So how can you mimic heavy training
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by not using heavy weight?
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[Dennis] Why not just try
to use light weight
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and use it super, super slow?
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'Cause it feels like
it's three times the weight.
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This is where the time, under tension,
right here.
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[grunts]
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[Dennis] Keep pushing, man, come on.
All that tension, come on, there you go.
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But it's three times
less pressure on the joints,
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on the tendons, and on the muscle,
you know what I mean?
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-And less repetitions.
-Yeah. And less repetition.
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And with repetition, you know,
it causes damage.
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Yeah. So that's why, you know,
I figured it out.
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You know, the mentality for guys
that are in the gym, it's very ego-driven.
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They wanna go in there, they wanna push
as much weight as they can
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and that's not it.
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That is a one-way ticket to nowhere,
to injury.
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The way I've been able to do this
for [laughs] sixteen, 17 years,
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is by just being real conscious
of you know, keeping my ego in check
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and checking out-- worry about
what the guy next to me is benching.
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[TJ] People always ask me
what compelled me to start working out.
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Really, it started
when I was pretty young,
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about 12 years old.
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[TJ stammers] I was always a little
kid. Scrawny, tiny, big glasses, braces.
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I mean, my glasses were like coke bottles,
and funny hairdo,
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just an awkward, little shy kid.
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It was very difficult for me to,
even from that point forward,
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talk to a girl, let alone get a date.
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And I got bullied, you know,
quite a bit as a kid,
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growing up in Chicago, tough neighborhood.
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[TJ] You know what?
One day, I just got tired of it.
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I got fed up, then I said, "You know,
I wanna do something about this."
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[sighs] Come on.
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[TJ] And that's when I decided
that I wanted to start working out.
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And that, for that birthday,
I asked my mom for a set of weights,
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to my garage and to a gym,
heavy bag, speed bag.
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And I swear, I thought I was Rocky,
fighting for my life, every day.
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[Jeremy] I've grown up with fitness.
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Every morning I wake up,
but it was my Dad clinking weights.
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I remember the first time
I bench pressed the bar,
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I was like five years old, and that's--
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Bench pressing 45 pounds
for a five-year-old's pretty incredible.
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So, you know, I was doing push-ups
and pull-ups and sit-ups
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since I can remember.
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I wouldn't know if I was passionate
about it when I was a little kid,
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it's something that, you know,
I saw my Dad working out.
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It's something I did
'cause I followed the footsteps of my Dad.
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I had a lot of issues.
I had separation anxiety
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when I was a kid, I had school phobia.
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We'd have like these math...
these speed math tests,
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you know, like 4th grade,
and if I didn't win,
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or if I didn't get a 100 percent
on the test,
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I missed one,
I'd literally have an anxiety attack,
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and I'd leave school.
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I just didn't have the social skills.
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I was always a good athlete,
and people always,
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I was known for sports,
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but I was never hanging out
with popular kids.
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We'd just cruise to the football games,
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and my Dad was giving me
these pep talks,
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you know, just visualization
and tell me what I had to do.
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My Dad was hard on us both, you know.
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Um...
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Even like practices,
I had goals every practice I had to do.
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We'd have live scrimmages and what not,
and my Dad would tell me
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you have to make this
ex amount of tackles.
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I did it. I always made sure
I did what my Dad asked me to do,
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and there would be certain times
where I wouldn't do what he told me to do
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and you know, I'd hear it, you know.
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It's not because he was being a jerk,
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it was because he expected,
he knew what my capabilities were.
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I got in so many fights.
I wouldn't really call them fights.
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I'd get tapped on the shoulder
and just blasted.
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My neighbor at the time
was about 32 years old,
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and he was just jacked.
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And I was like, "Man, who is this guy?"
Like, "I wanna look like this," you know.
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And he got me my first job at the gym.
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[Matt] It was a way that I could go in,
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And [stammers]
I could take all that negativity
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and harness it and focus it
into something positive.
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I was getting bullied and harassed
by so many people,
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and my car would get messed with,
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and I had people waiting with,
no joke, baseball bats,
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waiting for me, 'cause I worked at the gym
late at night. I would leave by myself.
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I mean, I reached the point to where...
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I felt like I was going to get killed,
like it was that, um...
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I basically got post-traumatic stress
disorder from being bullied so bad
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at that young age 'cause I just...
I didn't know how to deal with it.
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I didn't know what to do.
I couldn't understand why it was going on.
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-[grunts]
-[Dennis] Come on, Matt, five...
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[Dennis] Let me throw this question out.
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Cardio, fast on an empty stomach.
Fasted or not?
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-[Jeremy] Fasted.
-[David Morin] Fasted.
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-[Dennis] Okay, why?
-Because I get results.
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[Tonnell] There's pros and cons to it.
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-Like, I don't do fasted cardio at all.
-[Dennis] Why not?
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I feel like I lose a lot of muscle
when I do it.
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I have to have something consumed
in my body
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before I start my workout personally.
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Yeah, but you don't worry about it
if you consume,
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let's say, three, four, 500 calories
before you do your cardio
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and that's all you burn off?
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Instead of going to the body fat
that you wanna lose?
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That's why I think fasted cardio
is the main thing
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because now,
you have no calories in your body--
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-[TJ] What's your night-time meal?
-[Dennis] Are you eating carbs at night?
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Yeah.
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Okay, so-- But carbohydrates
are in and out of the system
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anywhere from three to six hours,
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so you wait-- You have your meal
at 9:00 p.m.,
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you're having oatmeal, whatever, I mean...
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You're not saying what you eat
so I gotta assume here.
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You know, if you have egg whites
and oatmeal at night,
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54 grams of carbs, 50 grams of protein.
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Okay, that oatmeal is gonna be
in your system.
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[Jason] You know, it's gonna
be transported into glucose, okay.
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It will restore
what you burned off all day,
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or it'll be, you know, spilled over,
and you'll store it as fat.
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So by the time you wake up,
depending on, you know, what time it is,
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that's why you might need
to explore healthy fats, you know,
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because if you're flattening out too much,
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you know, you got to look at a more long
term energy source
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like a healthy fat, even at night.
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If you haven't had your breakfast, uh...
Do you keep your heart rate lower?
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And what is that number you keep it
at the extended period of time?
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Um...
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Personally, for me, the heart rate should
be anywhere between 120 and 140, okay?
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And the length of the cardio
depends on what your diet is like.
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If you're on a high fat diet,
let's call it, The Ketosis Diet,
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I think you should go longer
with lower intensity.
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And if you're on a low,
moderate carb diet,
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you should go faster, higher
intensity cardio.
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The best time to do cardio
is always on an empty stomach.
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Lot of people, they don't have
the cardio equipment at the house.
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They don't have the time to go to the gym
'cause they gotta work, then I tell them,
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"Then do it after your workout
when you're somewhat semi-empty again."
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I'm gonna jump in and say something.
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The most effective thing for me is,
I'll do a minute walk,
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followed by a minute of sprint.
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Then I'll bring my heart rate down again
and walk for one minute.
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-Then I'll sprint for a minute.
-[Jason] Mm-hm.
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So constantly bringing the heart rate
up and down--
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You're doing that, uh,
for an extended period of time?
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Or do you shorten the amount of time
you're doing your cardio?
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It depends.
Right now, I'm holding some body fat,
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I'll probably do 40 minutes.
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But leading up to a show,
I'll be maybe three percent body fat,
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I'll probably do 25 minutes.
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You know, I've gotten away with doing
15 minutes and still losing body fat.
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The way you're looking,
you can't argue with Sadik.
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I started training super hard,
eating 4,000 calories a day,
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and two-hour workouts a day,
five, six days a week.
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I put on about 40 pounds, naturally,
in, uh, about six, eight months.
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You know, I mentioned I couldn't even talk
to a girl, let alone get a date,
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but I did actually get a date
for homecoming,
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and bought the, you know, the new outfit
and the corsage and rented the limo,
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and she called me the night of
and told me she was gonna be going
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with my best friend instead.
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I was so devastated,
but it was one of those things
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that it was just like, man, one day,
you know, I'm not gonna be overlooked.
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[Jeremy] 32nd game of my senior year,
went against a 270 pound center.
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He came out on me to try and lead block,
and I popped him right in the mouth,
447
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but my neck snapped back,
and I've never gone down on the field.
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My dad told me,
"I don't care if you break your leg.
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You crawl off the field.
You never stop a game."
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00:23:33,662 --> 00:23:36,665
So, my neck snapped back,
stinger down the side.
451
00:23:36,749 --> 00:23:40,210
I just felt this--
My arm went completely numb.
452
00:23:40,294 --> 00:23:43,547
Ran off the side, you know, I didn't stop
the game. Ran off, an arm dangling.
453
00:23:43,631 --> 00:23:47,676
Ended up bulging a disk in my neck and I--
454
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,721
You know, it hindered me the rest
of the year, you know.
455
00:23:50,804 --> 00:23:55,559
But we had high hopes of me getting
scholarships going into my senior year.
456
00:23:55,643 --> 00:23:58,270
When I finished football
and I realized I wasn't gonna get--
457
00:23:58,354 --> 00:24:00,105
I wasn't gonna play football in college,
458
00:24:00,189 --> 00:24:04,610
I went to my coach and I told him,
"Hey, I'm dropping your weights class."
459
00:24:04,693 --> 00:24:06,236
-I was like, I'm not gonna get big...
-[groans]
460
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,365
training the way you're having us train,
so, you know, I wanna be a bodybuilder.
461
00:24:09,447 --> 00:24:13,327
I was prepping for my first bodybuilding
show before I graduated.
462
00:24:13,410 --> 00:24:15,537
So I'd go to school
with [stammers] my food,
463
00:24:15,621 --> 00:24:17,748
-and kids would just give me a hard time.
-[groans]
464
00:24:17,831 --> 00:24:19,959
Even teachers would give me a hard time.
465
00:24:20,042 --> 00:24:22,336
You know,
I had a teacher call me, "no neck".
466
00:24:22,419 --> 00:24:25,798
Being shorter and having muscle,
467
00:24:25,881 --> 00:24:30,135
you're an easy target 'cause
you got bigger guys want to test you.
468
00:24:30,219 --> 00:24:33,639
-Two and three, beautiful.
-[grunts]
469
00:24:33,722 --> 00:24:39,477
Been dying to ask, you know,
some of you IFBB Pros, are you guys--?
470
00:24:39,561 --> 00:24:41,981
You know, there are so many different
equations out there to follow for diet,
471
00:24:42,064 --> 00:24:43,691
and I call it thinning the skin.
472
00:24:43,774 --> 00:24:47,361
Are you guys really into carb cycling
or you just going negative calories?
473
00:24:47,444 --> 00:24:49,487
How are you keeping track
of how negative you are
474
00:24:49,571 --> 00:24:51,281
to make sure you're not burning up
your muscle?
475
00:24:51,365 --> 00:24:56,453
Myself, my coach, we go day to day.
[stammers] We read my body every day.
476
00:24:56,537 --> 00:24:59,164
We make the adjustments we need
based off of where my weight's at,
477
00:24:59,248 --> 00:25:01,083
the way I'm lookin', and how tight I am.
478
00:25:01,166 --> 00:25:03,419
You know, carb cycling,
I use carb cycling.
479
00:25:03,501 --> 00:25:06,130
I'll go up on my high days,
my low days, my moderate days.
480
00:25:06,213 --> 00:25:07,923
If I wanna drop down and tighten up,
481
00:25:08,007 --> 00:25:10,217
I'll drop my carbs
or drop my calories a little bit,
482
00:25:10,300 --> 00:25:12,678
and you know, if I wanna refeed back up
and boost my metabolism,
483
00:25:12,761 --> 00:25:15,180
I'll have a high day,
and then I'll drop right back down.
484
00:25:15,264 --> 00:25:19,351
'Cause typically when you do a refeed day,
you might hold up the next day,
485
00:25:19,435 --> 00:25:21,478
but the following day,
your weight will actually be lower.
486
00:25:21,562 --> 00:25:23,605
-Hold a little water?
-You'll hold a bit of water,
487
00:25:23,689 --> 00:25:25,315
but that boost of the higher calories
488
00:25:25,399 --> 00:25:27,192
and higher carbs
is gonna speed up metabolism,
489
00:25:27,276 --> 00:25:29,903
so you will be able to drop
the next few days after that.
490
00:25:30,696 --> 00:25:32,448
[Jason exhaling]
491
00:25:32,530 --> 00:25:35,951
Cool. Down four pounds. [sighs]
492
00:25:36,035 --> 00:25:38,203
What would your fat and your carb be?
493
00:25:38,287 --> 00:25:39,288
-Personally?
-Yeah.
494
00:25:39,371 --> 00:25:41,999
For me, my fats are right around
50 grams of fat a day,
495
00:25:42,082 --> 00:25:45,294
and my carbs can vary
between 70 on a low day
496
00:25:45,377 --> 00:25:47,838
between 50 grams
to a 125 grams of carbs.
497
00:25:47,921 --> 00:25:51,050
Usually, my weight will hold around 175...
498
00:25:51,133 --> 00:25:54,344
175 grams of carbs,
but I don't go super high on fats,
499
00:25:54,428 --> 00:25:57,222
and when I do, my carbs are a lot lower.
500
00:25:57,306 --> 00:25:59,266
It's take in my fats
or I take in the carb.
501
00:25:59,349 --> 00:26:01,769
I usually choose between the two.
I mean, depends on your body.
502
00:26:01,852 --> 00:26:03,812
Like me and Matt
are roughly the same size,
503
00:26:03,896 --> 00:26:06,774
and I carbed up the day before Olympia
on 400 grams of carbs,
504
00:26:06,857 --> 00:26:08,984
he carbed up on a 1,000.
505
00:26:09,068 --> 00:26:11,320
If I were to do a thousand grams of carbs,
I would... I'd spill over like that.
506
00:26:11,403 --> 00:26:12,404
Right.
507
00:26:12,488 --> 00:26:15,074
When we say, okay, we go up in fats--
508
00:26:15,157 --> 00:26:17,743
Let's say you go up to 90
on a low carb day,
509
00:26:17,826 --> 00:26:21,121
what sources of fat do you choose?
510
00:26:21,205 --> 00:26:26,251
I usually use, uh, salmon, lean red meat,
almonds, almond butter.
511
00:26:26,335 --> 00:26:30,506
Yeah, which is good essential fatty acids,
of course, yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
512
00:26:30,588 --> 00:26:33,050
-[Dennis] Anybody likes peanut butter?
-I don't like peanut butter
513
00:26:33,133 --> 00:26:35,677
-because I'll eat the whole damn jar.
-[Dennis] Too much, yeah.
514
00:26:35,761 --> 00:26:38,889
-That's self-manipulation.
-[Dennis] I'm a peanut butter freak.
515
00:26:38,972 --> 00:26:43,811
So I went to the show, he told me,
"Stop drinking three days out."
516
00:26:43,894 --> 00:26:48,482
I stopped drinking not knowing
that you can kill yourself.
517
00:26:48,565 --> 00:26:52,319
Three days out from the show,
I totally eliminated the water,
518
00:26:52,402 --> 00:26:55,030
which means, now I'm carb loading.
519
00:26:55,114 --> 00:26:57,157
What do I need to carb load?
That's oatmeal.
520
00:26:58,283 --> 00:27:00,661
Don't drink for one day
and try to eat oatmeal dry.
521
00:27:00,744 --> 00:27:03,122
-Oh, my God.
-[laughs]
522
00:27:03,205 --> 00:27:05,415
[exhales]
523
00:27:05,499 --> 00:27:09,627
[Matt] The quickest way to lose body fat
is to double your muscle mass.
524
00:27:09,711 --> 00:27:12,548
You need to lift heavy and you need to
eat. Develop that muscle mass.
525
00:27:12,630 --> 00:27:17,594
And then your body will just lean out
naturally to sustain that muscle.
526
00:27:17,678 --> 00:27:19,637
[Dennis] More muscle burns more fat.
527
00:27:19,721 --> 00:27:22,349
-[exhales]
-[Jeremy] That's what we do in the gym.
528
00:27:22,432 --> 00:27:25,853
We're tearing our body apart
and then rebuilding it.
529
00:27:27,062 --> 00:27:28,564
[exhales]
530
00:27:28,646 --> 00:27:32,234
[David Morin] I never liked the gym.
I hated the gym, as a matter of fact.
531
00:27:32,317 --> 00:27:36,321
Until, um, my ex-wife left me
for a guy in the gym.
532
00:27:36,405 --> 00:27:40,117
I need to get in shape,
he's got what I want. The challenge is on.
533
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:45,164
I'm 6'2" at the time. Uh, when I got
into the gym, I was 168 pounds.
534
00:27:45,247 --> 00:27:46,874
If I turned sideways, I'd disappear,
535
00:27:46,957 --> 00:27:50,169
except for that nice little belly I got
'cause I had a desk job.
536
00:27:50,252 --> 00:27:55,924
So I got in the gym, and the fascinating
transformation occurred, and I was hungry.
537
00:27:56,008 --> 00:28:01,722
I was hungry for growth. I realized
that living in a sedentary job field
538
00:28:01,805 --> 00:28:05,809
and you know, living the domesticated life
of the nine to five and coming home,
539
00:28:05,893 --> 00:28:09,855
and that whole grind
isn't conducive to biology.
540
00:28:09,938 --> 00:28:13,650
I got in there and started realizing
that first, it was anger, you know,
541
00:28:13,734 --> 00:28:17,529
that propelled me into weight training
and you know, and all that stuff,
542
00:28:17,613 --> 00:28:19,114
and building the body and becoming strong.
543
00:28:19,198 --> 00:28:22,242
Then it started becoming my therapy, um,
544
00:28:22,326 --> 00:28:26,704
because I started transmuting
all those negative feelings,
545
00:28:26,788 --> 00:28:30,417
and it was working, you know, like
it helped me transition from that breakup
546
00:28:30,500 --> 00:28:33,378
and get the attention I wanted
from everybody else.
547
00:28:33,462 --> 00:28:37,299
What else can I do in my life
the same way?
548
00:28:37,382 --> 00:28:39,343
What else did I have
that was untapped potential,
549
00:28:39,426 --> 00:28:41,678
that was maybe negative
that I could turn around?
550
00:28:41,762 --> 00:28:44,973
And, uh, that's when I realized
there was a lot of people
551
00:28:45,057 --> 00:28:47,392
that I knew that needed the gym.
552
00:28:48,352 --> 00:28:50,854
[David Kimmerle] What is harder,
losing fat or gaining muscle?
553
00:28:50,938 --> 00:28:53,482
You've got the ectomorph that's screaming,
"Oh, my, gosh! Muscle's hard to put on."
554
00:28:53,565 --> 00:28:54,608
You got the mesomorph saying,
555
00:28:54,691 --> 00:28:57,110
"Dude, I wish I could just eat
everything I want."
556
00:28:57,194 --> 00:28:59,238
I would much rather have a fast metabolism
557
00:28:59,321 --> 00:29:02,574
than have a hard time putting on size
because you can always put size on.
558
00:29:02,658 --> 00:29:04,076
There's many methods.
559
00:29:04,159 --> 00:29:07,496
You know, [stammers] it's takes
a daily grind to keep weight off.
560
00:29:07,579 --> 00:29:09,623
Like on your body type though,
you're an ectomorph.
561
00:29:09,706 --> 00:29:11,875
-Yeah.
-[Dennis] Yeah. Uh...
562
00:29:11,959 --> 00:29:13,252
Kind of meso too.
563
00:29:13,335 --> 00:29:15,254
I mean, I saw your pictures
when you were a kid.
564
00:29:15,337 --> 00:29:16,463
-Yeah, yeah.
-I mean--
565
00:29:16,546 --> 00:29:18,090
Yeah. I was small.
566
00:29:18,173 --> 00:29:19,925
That's an interesting point
because I think,
567
00:29:20,008 --> 00:29:22,261
you know, they say there's a phenotype
and that's what you are,
568
00:29:22,344 --> 00:29:23,929
but I think you can transform.
569
00:29:24,012 --> 00:29:25,055
-You can change.
-Yeah.
570
00:29:25,138 --> 00:29:27,474
You can get-- You can be a pure ectomorph
based on the signals
571
00:29:27,557 --> 00:29:29,476
-of the protocol in the environment.
-[Dennis] To each can change a lot too.
572
00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:32,354
[David Morin] You're a soccer player,
you're an ectomorph.
573
00:29:32,437 --> 00:29:35,774
But you take that soccer player
and you put him on a 12-week, you know,
574
00:29:35,857 --> 00:29:39,278
compound movement plan
and improve his diet and supplements,
575
00:29:39,361 --> 00:29:41,655
you can make him
into a mesomorph in 12 months.
576
00:29:41,738 --> 00:29:43,991
So genetics and all this stuff
people talk,
577
00:29:44,074 --> 00:29:45,951
it's like...
it's all relative to the environment.
578
00:29:46,034 --> 00:29:49,621
I can fluctuate five pounds in a day
if I'm not eating right.
579
00:29:49,705 --> 00:29:51,832
I drop weight like, phew, like that.
580
00:29:51,915 --> 00:29:53,417
See, and the fact, I hate you.
581
00:29:53,500 --> 00:29:54,584
[laughter]
582
00:29:54,668 --> 00:29:58,755
I started at 93 pounds, ectomorph.
583
00:29:58,839 --> 00:30:01,174
Could not gain weight,
could not gain weight.
584
00:30:01,258 --> 00:30:04,469
I just had to eat and eat and eat,
eight to ten meals
585
00:30:04,553 --> 00:30:07,431
8,000 calories a day
because I wanted to get bigger
586
00:30:07,514 --> 00:30:08,765
and get bigger and get bigger.
587
00:30:08,849 --> 00:30:12,311
Then you finally got there and then you--
For me, I fine tuned it, but it was hard.
588
00:30:12,394 --> 00:30:13,478
I was wondering what it would be like to--
589
00:30:13,562 --> 00:30:15,647
Like have to eat too much
and have that be a problem.
590
00:30:15,731 --> 00:30:18,483
It was a problem 'cause it costs
a lot of money to eat that much. [laughs]
591
00:30:18,567 --> 00:30:20,694
-[laughter]
-Touché, touché. Right. I like that.
592
00:30:20,777 --> 00:30:22,946
-There's more than one aspect to it.
-You made me feel better.
593
00:30:23,030 --> 00:30:26,241
-[Dennis] So who believes in cheat meals?
-I utilize my cheat meal.
594
00:30:26,325 --> 00:30:28,702
On a-- I utilize my cheat meal
on a lagging body part day.
595
00:30:28,785 --> 00:30:30,329
Just getting that higher amount of,
596
00:30:30,412 --> 00:30:32,497
you know,
the over-nourishment of the food,
597
00:30:32,581 --> 00:30:34,750
utilizing more, you know,
eat, consume more red meats,
598
00:30:34,833 --> 00:30:37,044
get that extra creatine
on a lagging body part,
599
00:30:37,127 --> 00:30:39,087
higher amount of carbs, the type of carbs.
600
00:30:39,171 --> 00:30:42,007
I like to go with starchy carbs
[stammers] on a lagging body part day
601
00:30:42,090 --> 00:30:44,134
'cause those carbs
are gonna hit me a lot quicker.
602
00:30:44,217 --> 00:30:46,970
My body is going to utilize them
and I'm gonna grow faster.
603
00:30:47,054 --> 00:30:49,222
[Dennis] I'm glad that you brought this up
because a lot of people
604
00:30:49,306 --> 00:30:50,307
cheat on their day off.
605
00:30:50,390 --> 00:30:53,143
They use their day off
to do the cheat meal,
606
00:30:53,226 --> 00:30:54,519
and I was always the same.
607
00:30:54,603 --> 00:30:57,230
I said, "I cheat,
but I gotta train that day."
608
00:30:57,314 --> 00:30:58,607
I always said the same thing.
609
00:30:58,690 --> 00:31:01,109
I had to cheat at least once a week
'cause I believe
610
00:31:01,193 --> 00:31:03,195
that it spikes your metabolism first,
611
00:31:03,278 --> 00:31:05,989
and number two,
it keeps you sane from dieting,
612
00:31:06,073 --> 00:31:08,492
and you get, you know,
you feel good, you know, that day,
613
00:31:08,575 --> 00:31:10,619
and it keeps you
for another three, four, five days,
614
00:31:10,702 --> 00:31:13,330
and then you suffer one, and you already
have another cheat meal again.
615
00:31:13,413 --> 00:31:18,335
You see me, I'll go from 240 to 190 like,
you know, with a matter of a couple weeks.
616
00:31:18,418 --> 00:31:21,088
And I know that my body reacts
to that type of training.
617
00:31:21,171 --> 00:31:23,590
I believe that when you fluctuate a lot,
618
00:31:23,673 --> 00:31:26,968
and you go through these, you know,
vicious cycles of packing on
619
00:31:27,052 --> 00:31:30,347
and then ripping it down,
that it messes with your brain,
620
00:31:30,430 --> 00:31:33,225
um, among other things,
like your body chemistry.
621
00:31:33,308 --> 00:31:37,562
But I found that once started eating
really clean on a daily basis,
622
00:31:37,646 --> 00:31:41,233
and then having cheat meals,
like for me, it's having desserts,
623
00:31:41,316 --> 00:31:42,818
and that kind of keeps my sanity.
624
00:31:42,901 --> 00:31:46,780
I, mentally, as bad ass as I try to be,
625
00:31:46,863 --> 00:31:50,867
I got a really hard time
stopping the cheat.
626
00:31:50,951 --> 00:31:53,245
That's the difference
between people that's gonna make it
627
00:31:53,328 --> 00:31:56,081
and the people that won't make it.
[laughs]
628
00:31:56,164 --> 00:31:57,791
Lower it down one more time, right here.
629
00:31:57,874 --> 00:31:59,000
-Come on.
-[grunts]
630
00:31:59,084 --> 00:32:00,794
Come on. Come on, Sadik.
631
00:32:00,877 --> 00:32:02,796
-Come on, where you at?
-[groans]
632
00:32:02,879 --> 00:32:04,673
-Come on.
-I can do this.
633
00:32:04,756 --> 00:32:07,134
-Yes, come on. And three, come on.
-[grunts]
634
00:32:07,217 --> 00:32:10,303
-One, come on, two, and good.
-Thanks.
635
00:32:10,387 --> 00:32:11,972
[exhales, groans]
636
00:32:12,055 --> 00:32:14,266
You know, a lot of people think
that bodybuilders are selfish.
637
00:32:14,349 --> 00:32:16,977
I'm not selfish, you know. I'm focused.
638
00:32:17,060 --> 00:32:21,606
I don't need to sit at home like a hobbit,
and that's kinda how I lived before.
639
00:32:21,690 --> 00:32:23,900
I was like, "I can't go anywhere,
I'm on lock down.
640
00:32:23,984 --> 00:32:26,528
I got a show comin' up.
I can't do this, I can't do that."
641
00:32:26,611 --> 00:32:30,198
And you put people off,
and guess what? You lose people.
642
00:32:30,282 --> 00:32:32,534
And guess what?
Sometimes you don't get 'em back.
643
00:32:32,617 --> 00:32:35,829
It's hard on your friends too
because they're not wrong
644
00:32:35,912 --> 00:32:38,582
for thinking the way that you think.
You know, it's not normal.
645
00:32:38,665 --> 00:32:41,626
It's not normal to be in a gym every day
for four hours.
646
00:32:41,710 --> 00:32:43,545
It's not normal to be eating
every two hours.
647
00:32:43,628 --> 00:32:44,754
That's not a normal thing.
648
00:32:44,838 --> 00:32:47,591
But that's why the sport is so great
because it's so difficult.
649
00:32:47,674 --> 00:32:50,802
People that aren't doing what we're doing
don't necessarily understand
650
00:32:50,886 --> 00:32:52,387
the things that we put ourselves through.
651
00:32:53,138 --> 00:32:55,849
-[men laughing]
-[indistinct chattering]
652
00:32:55,932 --> 00:32:58,935
[indistinct chatter]
653
00:33:27,130 --> 00:33:30,717
I came back from overseas in the military.
I was in a hotel lobby bar.
654
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,427
I'm trying to work my game that night,
655
00:33:32,511 --> 00:33:35,639
trying to get the digits
and get the shit situated, you know,
656
00:33:35,722 --> 00:33:39,142
and as I'm doing this,
I get a tap on my shoulder and, uh,
657
00:33:39,226 --> 00:33:41,228
it was an agent,
he keeps on talking to me,
658
00:33:41,311 --> 00:33:43,188
and, um, he's like,
"Hey, man, you got a good looks.
659
00:33:43,271 --> 00:33:46,441
You should come up to my room,
get some pictures," And, um--
660
00:33:46,525 --> 00:33:47,859
[laughter]
661
00:33:47,943 --> 00:33:49,569
I didn't know how to take that, man.
662
00:33:49,653 --> 00:33:51,696
Those were fighting words
for me back in the day.
663
00:33:51,780 --> 00:33:54,491
I went up to his room right away
and stripped down. No, um--
664
00:33:54,574 --> 00:33:57,327
[all laugh]
665
00:33:57,410 --> 00:33:59,663
-I told you sexual favors.
-[David] And that's how it all started.
666
00:33:59,746 --> 00:34:01,456
Nah. Um...
667
00:34:01,540 --> 00:34:03,208
No, but I took his card down, man.
668
00:34:03,291 --> 00:34:06,378
He's saying, "Hey, I can make you famous.
I can get you a cover."
669
00:34:06,461 --> 00:34:08,547
You wanna hear that
so you believe it right away.
670
00:34:08,630 --> 00:34:10,590
You don't do the due diligence
to really research it.
671
00:34:10,674 --> 00:34:13,635
Next thing you know,
you're in a trap, in a corner.
672
00:34:13,718 --> 00:34:15,762
Your integrity's on the line,
your name's on the line,
673
00:34:15,845 --> 00:34:18,682
and what are you gonna do?
And you can't just back out right away
674
00:34:18,765 --> 00:34:21,518
because then you're gonna burn a bridge,
this guy's gonna hate you.
675
00:34:21,601 --> 00:34:25,272
It's a really bad situation, so, that card
I did my due diligence, I checked him out,
676
00:34:25,355 --> 00:34:27,482
researched him, found out he's legit.
677
00:34:27,566 --> 00:34:31,236
I gave him a call and said, "Hey,
what do you think if I come up there?"
678
00:34:31,319 --> 00:34:32,946
So we did a test shoot, and um,
679
00:34:33,029 --> 00:34:35,115
the test shoot landed the cover
of Muscle and Fitness.
680
00:34:35,198 --> 00:34:36,616
If you believe in what you're doing,
681
00:34:36,700 --> 00:34:39,286
and what your work is back-loaded
with passion and love,
682
00:34:39,369 --> 00:34:44,207
I think it's gonna go a lot further
than glory or fame or just popularity.
683
00:34:44,291 --> 00:34:47,752
[stammers] I think those fuels burn out
in that fire,
684
00:34:47,836 --> 00:34:51,339
but, uh, you know, at the end of the day,
it's like, you just gotta show up.
685
00:34:51,423 --> 00:34:55,468
You show up, you at least put yourself
in a position to get an opportunity.
686
00:34:55,552 --> 00:34:58,930
You know, if you sit at home,
no one's gonna come knocking on the door.
687
00:34:59,014 --> 00:35:02,434
Fitness, for me,
has always been a very private thing.
688
00:35:02,517 --> 00:35:04,269
It's been my coping mechanism.
689
00:35:04,352 --> 00:35:06,313
It's been my release.
690
00:35:06,396 --> 00:35:11,192
And that's why, you know,
I never got compelled to go up on stage
691
00:35:11,276 --> 00:35:13,028
and compare myself to other people
692
00:35:13,111 --> 00:35:17,032
'cause to me, I just wanted to be
the best me, you know.
693
00:35:17,115 --> 00:35:21,536
And the sure fire way I knew to screw up
something that you love
694
00:35:21,620 --> 00:35:23,663
is to try to make a business out of it.
695
00:35:23,747 --> 00:35:26,499
It's no longer fun. Now it's a job.
696
00:35:26,583 --> 00:35:29,502
[TJ] Covers are a byproduct
of just fucking working out.
697
00:35:30,545 --> 00:35:32,589
To be honest, I don't try to monetize 'em.
698
00:35:32,672 --> 00:35:33,673
[Jason] Bullshit.
699
00:35:33,757 --> 00:35:36,968
You don't want to get on the stage,
compare yourself to other people.
700
00:35:37,052 --> 00:35:39,804
I think that's why anyone gets in a sport,
to compare themselves--
701
00:35:39,888 --> 00:35:42,641
-Some people have something to prove.
-I was never in your sport, bro.
702
00:35:42,724 --> 00:35:45,935
Yeah, but what sport--?
Are you in any sport?
703
00:35:46,019 --> 00:35:50,440
I wrestled for six years.
I did martial arts, I boxed but...
704
00:35:50,523 --> 00:35:52,609
You wanna be on covers of magazines,
705
00:35:52,692 --> 00:35:56,988
you wanna be in magazines,
you wanna act, you wanna put on makeup,
706
00:35:57,072 --> 00:36:01,993
you wanna get in front of lights,
cameras, action,
707
00:36:02,077 --> 00:36:06,623
but you don't wanna get up
and show your hard work,
708
00:36:06,706 --> 00:36:09,876
and show that your hard work
is better than someone else's?
709
00:36:09,959 --> 00:36:11,961
I don't understand.
How is one--? How is--?
710
00:36:12,045 --> 00:36:13,505
I don't under-- I don't get it.
711
00:36:13,588 --> 00:36:15,173
You're missing my point, bro.
712
00:36:15,256 --> 00:36:16,758
[Jason] Yeah, I am,
so that's why I'm asking.
713
00:36:16,841 --> 00:36:20,929
All right. For me, I never wanted
to make a business out of fitness
714
00:36:21,012 --> 00:36:24,933
because it was something very dear to me
ever since I was a kid.
715
00:36:25,016 --> 00:36:28,186
It was something that actually helped me
overcome adversity.
716
00:36:28,269 --> 00:36:30,480
It's something that I've,
still to this day, turn to,
717
00:36:30,563 --> 00:36:33,316
every time I got an issue or a problem,
I go workout.
718
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,444
I don't-- I respect what you guys do
so don't take it that way.
719
00:36:36,528 --> 00:36:38,154
No, I'm-- I know I'm not. I'm just...
720
00:36:38,238 --> 00:36:39,948
You might have, but the truth is,
721
00:36:40,031 --> 00:36:42,784
I admire what you guys do,
to put your balls on the line.
722
00:36:42,867 --> 00:36:46,830
Because it's not a pure sport. There's--
723
00:36:46,913 --> 00:36:50,375
It's left to the subject of opinion,
to people,
724
00:36:50,458 --> 00:36:54,462
and everyone has different opinions.
Judges have different opinions.
725
00:36:54,546 --> 00:36:59,342
And who's to say, you know,
you're not as good as this guy?
726
00:36:59,426 --> 00:37:02,053
You guys are fucking
at the top of your game.
727
00:37:02,137 --> 00:37:04,806
Who's to say you're not as good
as this guy?
728
00:37:04,889 --> 00:37:07,809
He's fucking bad ass.
He won the title, he deserves it.
729
00:37:07,892 --> 00:37:12,063
And I ain't takin' nothing away from you.
[stammers] It's subjective.
730
00:37:12,147 --> 00:37:15,942
And call me a control freak,
but I don't like leaving my fate
731
00:37:16,025 --> 00:37:19,612
up to subjective opinions of others.
That's part of it.
732
00:37:19,696 --> 00:37:23,950
The other is, I got into fitness
because I just started working out
733
00:37:24,033 --> 00:37:26,619
'cause I had issues
I had to sort out as a kid.
734
00:37:26,703 --> 00:37:29,080
So that's what I turned to
instead of drugs or alcohol.
735
00:37:29,164 --> 00:37:32,542
And some of us live
with two different people.
736
00:37:32,625 --> 00:37:36,379
-Oh, yeah.
-Who you are, your persona that you use,
737
00:37:36,463 --> 00:37:38,757
everything you use to manipulate
some persona
738
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,092
to get some type of success...
739
00:37:41,176 --> 00:37:42,802
is illusion.
740
00:37:42,886 --> 00:37:43,970
-Yeah.
-It's ego.
741
00:37:44,053 --> 00:37:46,806
If we don't have a belief
that we can become that person,
742
00:37:46,890 --> 00:37:50,393
that lack of a belief
turns every journey into a debate.
743
00:37:50,477 --> 00:37:52,604
Pain versus pride,
and pain starts to fill so much
744
00:37:52,687 --> 00:37:55,315
that all of a sudden, we start
second guessing who we wanna be.
745
00:37:55,398 --> 00:37:59,277
Well, you can manipulate it.
Just at the end of the day,
746
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,489
don't believe that that manipulation
was ever you.
747
00:38:02,572 --> 00:38:06,326
Because when that's taken away from you,
you'd be pretty sad, you know.
748
00:38:06,409 --> 00:38:09,454
You don't put stock
in stuff that's manipulated.
749
00:38:09,537 --> 00:38:11,998
Put stock in who you are,
the value of who you are,
750
00:38:12,081 --> 00:38:13,124
and your emotion and happiness
751
00:38:13,208 --> 00:38:15,627
'cause we take away
all the stuff that we use,
752
00:38:15,710 --> 00:38:17,754
we take away all the supplements we use.
753
00:38:17,837 --> 00:38:22,217
I mean, ultimately, we became who we are
because we really truly weren't happy.
754
00:38:22,300 --> 00:38:25,053
We couldn't accept who we were, you know?
755
00:38:25,136 --> 00:38:27,222
We go through a process
of accepting ourselves.
756
00:38:27,305 --> 00:38:29,474
You believe in the title,
you believe in the cover,
757
00:38:29,557 --> 00:38:32,310
you believed in this,
and then when it was gone,
758
00:38:32,393 --> 00:38:33,853
"Fuck, who am I?"
759
00:38:33,937 --> 00:38:36,314
I mean, how many guys
you see go in the gym,
760
00:38:36,397 --> 00:38:37,482
and it's like leg day, right?
761
00:38:37,565 --> 00:38:41,569
And it's their day they don't wanna do,
that's their weakest day, right?
762
00:38:41,653 --> 00:38:43,696
They go into the gym,
I'm gonna do legs, right?
763
00:38:43,780 --> 00:38:46,282
And, uh, they go in the off hour,
no one's really there,
764
00:38:46,366 --> 00:38:49,536
but it so happens Sally's there,
some girl that they wanna hook up with,
765
00:38:49,619 --> 00:38:51,663
so all of a sudden,
it doesn't become leg day, does it?
766
00:38:51,746 --> 00:38:53,957
It turns right into arm day
or something or chest day,
767
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,501
-so they can show off in front of Sally.
-[all laugh]
768
00:38:56,584 --> 00:38:59,128
That's someone that's doing something
for a third party.
769
00:38:59,212 --> 00:39:01,631
They don't pay your bills
yet you give them all this value.
770
00:39:01,714 --> 00:39:04,676
It makes no sense. If you really want
Sally, you believe in what you want,
771
00:39:04,759 --> 00:39:06,594
you go after, no matter what,
what anyone says.
772
00:39:06,678 --> 00:39:08,847
And when you reach those horizons,
773
00:39:08,930 --> 00:39:13,101
trust me, Sally and Sue and Nicole
and everybody else gonna come,
774
00:39:13,184 --> 00:39:16,604
and you get to pick your choice
because you're a leader, man.
775
00:39:17,772 --> 00:39:20,066
["Ready for Battle" playing]
776
00:39:34,038 --> 00:39:36,332
♪ Ready for battle ♪
777
00:39:39,043 --> 00:39:40,795
♪ Ready for war ♪
778
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:50,179
♪ Ready for battle ♪
779
00:39:53,725 --> 00:39:55,226
♪ Ready for war ♪
780
00:39:57,770 --> 00:40:01,274
♪ 'Cause I'm ready for battle ♪
781
00:40:03,151 --> 00:40:05,653
♪ 'Cause I'm ready for war ♪
782
00:40:08,031 --> 00:40:09,157
♪ Ready for battle ♪
783
00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:11,492
♪ I'm prepared for war
Before the limelight ♪
784
00:40:11,576 --> 00:40:14,037
♪ Ready for my weapon of choice
I know the time's right ♪
785
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,622
♪ Feelin' like a million soldiers ♪
786
00:40:15,705 --> 00:40:18,541
♪ Ready to deal with the agony
Of battle in by the light ♪
787
00:40:18,625 --> 00:40:20,752
♪ Ready for battle
Ready for war ♪
788
00:40:20,835 --> 00:40:23,212
♪ Ready to fight
Hit it on the walls ♪
789
00:40:23,296 --> 00:40:25,423
♪ A soldier at heart
The blood on the stone ♪
790
00:40:25,506 --> 00:40:28,051
♪ They fire for bomb
Then I get up for more ♪
791
00:40:28,134 --> 00:40:30,303
♪ 'Cause I'm ready for battle ♪
792
00:40:33,306 --> 00:40:34,766
♪ Ready for war ♪
793
00:40:38,144 --> 00:40:40,396
♪ 'Cause I'm ready for battle ♪
794
00:40:48,863 --> 00:40:53,409
[shouting, cheering]
795
00:40:53,493 --> 00:40:56,871
[laughter]
796
00:40:58,623 --> 00:41:02,043
[Jeremy] I grew up cooking a lot.
I can cook anything and everything.
797
00:41:03,378 --> 00:41:05,630
But since I'm dieting all the time,
798
00:41:05,713 --> 00:41:08,424
I don't get to enjoy any like--
So I look forward to offseason.
799
00:41:08,508 --> 00:41:10,551
Cooking is like one of my favorite
things to do.
800
00:41:10,635 --> 00:41:12,762
I hate pulling water. Do you like--?
801
00:41:12,845 --> 00:41:15,306
It just depends
on how conditioned you come into the show
802
00:41:15,390 --> 00:41:16,432
and how ready you are.
803
00:41:16,516 --> 00:41:20,853
For me, like, at the San Jose show,
I didn't carb up 'til two days before
804
00:41:20,937 --> 00:41:23,982
because I was already super conditioned,
and I had to pull water very hard.
805
00:41:24,065 --> 00:41:26,693
You know, post Olympia,
I came in bigger but I was holding water,
806
00:41:26,776 --> 00:41:29,529
so I started carbing up on Tuesday,
four days out,
807
00:41:29,612 --> 00:41:31,823
and I pulled water a lot harder
the last two days,
808
00:41:31,906 --> 00:41:34,242
and it worked both ways.
809
00:41:34,325 --> 00:41:39,414
But you know, I prefer to not pull water
as hard 'cause you don't feel as bad.
810
00:41:39,497 --> 00:41:41,124
-My head was startin' to hurt.
-Headaches, dude.
811
00:41:41,207 --> 00:41:43,418
-My head was killing me Friday.
-You wake up with headaches.
812
00:41:43,501 --> 00:41:44,544
I was walking through the expo,
813
00:41:44,627 --> 00:41:46,462
and everybody come up
to try and talk to you
814
00:41:46,546 --> 00:41:48,798
before you go on stage,
like I just wasn't there mentally.
815
00:41:48,881 --> 00:41:51,092
I was like, "Everybody,
I gotta go and go rest."
816
00:41:51,175 --> 00:41:53,011
-I train hard all up to the showtime.
-Really?
817
00:41:53,094 --> 00:41:54,470
The day before, I don't work out but...
818
00:41:54,554 --> 00:41:57,098
-Yeah.
- You don't find yourself swollen?
819
00:41:57,181 --> 00:41:58,182
No.
820
00:41:58,266 --> 00:42:03,104
I don't hit legs hard, that's for sure,
before a shoot. My legs swell up.
821
00:42:03,187 --> 00:42:04,981
With bodybuilding,
I mean, we'd stop at like,
822
00:42:05,064 --> 00:42:07,483
for me, seven to ten days out,
I would stop doing legs,
823
00:42:07,567 --> 00:42:10,403
so they wouldn't hold water, you know.
But it's different now, you know?
824
00:42:10,486 --> 00:42:12,655
Pretty much working all the way
up until the show.
825
00:42:12,739 --> 00:42:16,284
I don't train too hard the last week
so I can walk straight on stage.
826
00:42:16,367 --> 00:42:18,077
[laughter]
827
00:42:18,161 --> 00:42:21,581
It's not just like we diet for two days
and then we take a day off.
828
00:42:21,664 --> 00:42:23,332
It's like day after day after day,
829
00:42:23,416 --> 00:42:25,460
week after week after week,
month after month after month,
830
00:42:25,543 --> 00:42:26,627
and year after year after year.
831
00:42:26,711 --> 00:42:29,672
I mean, that's like, it's-- You've been
doing this for 15 years now
832
00:42:29,756 --> 00:42:32,467
and the way you looked back then
wasn't as good as the way you look now.
833
00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:34,594
- Right.
-It's just like a constant progression.
834
00:42:35,178 --> 00:42:37,305
[exhales]
835
00:42:37,388 --> 00:42:41,100
We do something that looks very healthy,
836
00:42:41,184 --> 00:42:46,814
but in actuality, it's very damaging
to the person, mentally and physically.
837
00:42:46,898 --> 00:42:48,566
You know, if you're training
twice a day, every day,
838
00:42:48,649 --> 00:42:50,485
if you're not consuming
the right amount of calories,
839
00:42:50,568 --> 00:42:54,072
if you're not sleeping and resting enough,
you're risking injury.
840
00:42:54,155 --> 00:42:56,574
I'll tell you what I feel like
a day before the show.
841
00:42:56,657 --> 00:43:00,787
Day before the show, noises hurt me,
you know, gives me headaches.
842
00:43:00,870 --> 00:43:04,665
Bright lights, they give me headaches.
TV, you know, everything's off.
843
00:43:04,749 --> 00:43:09,295
Dizziness, you know, confusion, anxiety,
844
00:43:09,378 --> 00:43:13,424
all these things come into play
in the last few weeks before a show,
845
00:43:13,508 --> 00:43:16,219
and you really do,
you have to remind yourself,
846
00:43:16,302 --> 00:43:18,096
"Hey, this is only happening,
847
00:43:18,179 --> 00:43:21,641
I only feel this way
because I'm so, you know, lean."
848
00:43:21,724 --> 00:43:23,810
You know, your body needs calories.
849
00:43:23,893 --> 00:43:27,522
It needs that stuff to, you know,
feel normal.
850
00:43:27,605 --> 00:43:30,691
And it's not normal
and you will not feel normal.
851
00:43:30,775 --> 00:43:32,193
I heard a quote one time, they said,
852
00:43:32,276 --> 00:43:34,403
"To get in the best, uh, condition
of your life,
853
00:43:34,487 --> 00:43:36,155
you have to feel your worst."
854
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:41,661
And I never once, you know, had anxiety
or headaches or felt sick,
855
00:43:41,744 --> 00:43:43,788
but once I really started dialing down
856
00:43:43,871 --> 00:43:46,165
and getting into
that one percent body fat,
857
00:43:46,249 --> 00:43:48,501
you can see how the mind
will play tricks on you.
858
00:43:48,584 --> 00:43:52,088
Most people, they would go to a hospital
for that, you know, but not me.
859
00:43:57,927 --> 00:43:58,928
[TJ] Yeah.
860
00:44:03,975 --> 00:44:05,518
I've got my six-pack bag.
861
00:44:05,601 --> 00:44:10,565
I'm loading it up with my fuel meals,
which prepare all my meals for me,
862
00:44:10,648 --> 00:44:13,442
helps keep me fueled throughout the day.
Let's go train.
863
00:44:14,110 --> 00:44:18,114
["Grindin'"
by Thomas Tha Franchise playing]
864
00:44:18,197 --> 00:44:20,491
[grunts]
865
00:44:20,575 --> 00:44:24,120
[grunts]
866
00:44:26,164 --> 00:44:27,540
Come on.
867
00:44:29,167 --> 00:44:32,211
[grunts] One more.
868
00:44:32,295 --> 00:44:34,630
-[grunts]
-Come on, come on.
869
00:44:34,714 --> 00:44:38,342
Come on. Where you at? Where you at?
870
00:44:41,554 --> 00:44:44,849
-One at a time
-[grunting]
871
00:44:54,775 --> 00:44:57,320
[exhales]
872
00:45:19,926 --> 00:45:24,305
The reason most people fail
in achieving their perfect physique
873
00:45:24,388 --> 00:45:26,265
is because they fail in the kitchen.
874
00:45:26,349 --> 00:45:29,060
So, I don't care how hard
they train in the gym,
875
00:45:29,143 --> 00:45:32,647
you know, how many repetitions,
how many days you're training,
876
00:45:32,729 --> 00:45:35,566
you're not gonna see any results
unless you eat properly, you know.
877
00:45:35,650 --> 00:45:38,819
If I have a Ferrari,
I'm gonna put 93 octane in my Ferrari.
878
00:45:38,903 --> 00:45:40,613
I'm not gonna put low grade gasoline.
879
00:45:40,696 --> 00:45:43,366
I don't enjoy cooking
but, you know, I enjoy winning,
880
00:45:43,449 --> 00:45:46,118
and in order for me
to win the Mr. Olympia,
881
00:45:46,202 --> 00:45:49,247
I have to eat the way I eat,
and it's gonna pay off.
882
00:45:49,330 --> 00:45:53,876
This is probably 60 grams of protein.
I have to weigh it.
883
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,713
At this point though, I really,
when you weigh something every single day,
884
00:45:57,797 --> 00:46:00,132
all day, every day, eight times a day
885
00:46:00,216 --> 00:46:03,010
for three years, four years,
five years, six,
886
00:46:03,094 --> 00:46:06,222
then you literally can look at something
and be pretty damn accurate.
887
00:46:06,305 --> 00:46:08,266
Sadik's always got about 80 grams
of carbs there.
888
00:46:08,349 --> 00:46:11,560
-[David Morin] That's pretty beasty, man.
-I can sit there and count it up.
889
00:46:11,644 --> 00:46:15,606
He's got like, I look at food constantly
'cause I don't have a scale everywhere,
890
00:46:15,690 --> 00:46:19,819
so I'm like, "He's got about what,
seven ounces or eight ounces of steak?"
891
00:46:19,902 --> 00:46:20,903
[Sadik] Ten.
892
00:46:20,987 --> 00:46:21,988
-Ten ounces?
-[Sadik] That's like ten.
893
00:46:22,071 --> 00:46:25,074
And that's like eight or nine
ounces of sweet potato.
894
00:46:25,157 --> 00:46:26,826
And it's a nice, low, glycemic carb,
895
00:46:26,909 --> 00:46:29,620
so it's diabetic-friendly carb,
in general, right?
896
00:46:29,704 --> 00:46:33,499
He's going like 75 grams of protein
and 80 grams of carbs.
897
00:46:34,500 --> 00:46:35,960
Don't forget about the pickle.
898
00:46:36,043 --> 00:46:37,295
-[Matt] And the pickle.
-And the pickle.
899
00:46:37,378 --> 00:46:40,631
One of the things that I noticed
that were the differences
900
00:46:40,715 --> 00:46:43,551
between the physique guys
that actually compete against each other
901
00:46:43,634 --> 00:46:48,848
and the fitness guys
are that physique is a competition.
902
00:46:48,931 --> 00:46:51,392
You guys are gettin' up on stage,
903
00:46:51,475 --> 00:46:54,145
and you are competing
against one each other.
904
00:46:54,228 --> 00:46:58,316
And so, that immediately puts you
in a different mindset,
905
00:46:58,399 --> 00:47:01,193
to where, this person is your friend.
906
00:47:01,277 --> 00:47:03,070
And you can compartmentalize that,
907
00:47:03,154 --> 00:47:05,364
but at one point or another,
there's a switch that happens,
908
00:47:05,448 --> 00:47:08,617
just like fighters fightin' each other
that are in the same camp,
909
00:47:08,701 --> 00:47:10,161
where you gotta take that person down
910
00:47:10,244 --> 00:47:13,622
and you got to do everything you can
to win within the rules.
911
00:47:13,706 --> 00:47:16,542
And so, at that point,
they become your competitor.
912
00:47:16,625 --> 00:47:19,503
David, you gettin' ready to compete.
Is this your first show?
913
00:47:19,587 --> 00:47:22,340
I won the Mr. California overall. I won--
914
00:47:22,423 --> 00:47:24,425
-So you're qualified for the nationals?
-Yeah, I've qualified,
915
00:47:24,508 --> 00:47:27,803
and I go to the nationals
in the USA, and I end up,
916
00:47:27,887 --> 00:47:29,930
I guess my biggest mistake
is overthinking it.
917
00:47:30,014 --> 00:47:32,224
I was going up there
and doing what I felt like
918
00:47:32,308 --> 00:47:34,185
the judges wanted to see, and I was wrong.
919
00:47:34,268 --> 00:47:36,896
I would go up there
and do my fitness model poses.
920
00:47:36,979 --> 00:47:38,939
-So...
-[Dennis] So what's your approach now?
921
00:47:39,023 --> 00:47:42,485
I'll have perfected my posing
as much as I can,
922
00:47:42,568 --> 00:47:44,070
do a different presentation to the judges,
923
00:47:44,153 --> 00:47:45,988
and hopefully,
I place a little better this time.
924
00:47:48,908 --> 00:47:50,785
[narrator] Hany Rambod,
known as the Pro Creator,
925
00:47:50,867 --> 00:47:54,330
has 13 Olympia titles
to his credit as a pro trainer
926
00:47:54,413 --> 00:47:57,666
and prep coach
of some of the top physiques in the world.
927
00:47:58,709 --> 00:48:01,087
[Sadik] I really work extensively
on my posing.
928
00:48:01,170 --> 00:48:02,879
A lot of athletes,
they just focus on the gym.
929
00:48:02,963 --> 00:48:04,632
Yeah, you can have the best physique
in the world,
930
00:48:04,715 --> 00:48:06,717
but if you can't present it right,
doesn't matter.
931
00:48:06,801 --> 00:48:10,054
[Jeremy] Through this transition, staying
square across the top, small waist.
932
00:48:13,182 --> 00:48:14,642
-Yeah, buddy.
-Excellent.
933
00:48:15,601 --> 00:48:17,978
-[Hany] Blow it out, there you go.
-There it is.
934
00:48:18,062 --> 00:48:20,606
-You see how he's bending his knee?
-Yeah, it's beautiful.
935
00:48:20,689 --> 00:48:22,358
-You know why we do that?
-No.
936
00:48:22,441 --> 00:48:25,569
[Sadik] If you bend that knee slightly,
catches judges eye.
937
00:48:25,653 --> 00:48:30,658
You're gonna be competing against
300 national level competitors.
938
00:48:30,741 --> 00:48:32,909
All of them have amazing physiques.
939
00:48:32,993 --> 00:48:36,038
You need to grab their attention
even though you're standing on that line.
940
00:48:36,122 --> 00:48:37,957
You can't go on stage
and display your physique
941
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,667
the way you need to be displaying it.
942
00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:42,378
You're gonna get lost in the mix,
so being able to manipulate angles
943
00:48:42,461 --> 00:48:44,713
and accentuate your strengths,
and minimize your weaknesses
944
00:48:44,797 --> 00:48:47,550
is gonna make you a great poser on stage.
945
00:48:47,633 --> 00:48:50,136
Having that charisma on stage
to capture the audience,
946
00:48:50,219 --> 00:48:54,140
to capture those judges, is very important
because in our sport,
947
00:48:54,223 --> 00:48:58,644
[stammers] it's a pretty boy sport,
so we gotta go up there and present that.
948
00:48:58,727 --> 00:49:03,232
The last thing you wanna do is worry
about what the guy is doing next to you.
949
00:49:03,315 --> 00:49:06,444
You wanna really make sure
you maximize what you have to show.
950
00:49:06,527 --> 00:49:09,113
So when you're up there,
have that confidence, have that swag
951
00:49:09,196 --> 00:49:11,574
that you already have,
just be natural and be comfortable.
952
00:49:11,657 --> 00:49:14,243
The moment you start rushing things
and forcing things on stage,
953
00:49:14,326 --> 00:49:16,495
it's gonna show and it's gonna transpire
through your routine,
954
00:49:16,579 --> 00:49:18,747
and it's gonna make you look
very uncomfortable up there.
955
00:49:18,831 --> 00:49:23,294
Take your time.
You bust your butt 24/7, 365 days a year
956
00:49:23,377 --> 00:49:25,713
to go on that stage for 20, 40 seconds.
957
00:49:25,796 --> 00:49:27,214
Maybe if you're lucky, two minutes, okay?
958
00:49:27,298 --> 00:49:29,258
Everyone has a great physique
on that stage.
959
00:49:29,341 --> 00:49:30,384
Everyone deserves to be there,
960
00:49:30,468 --> 00:49:32,636
but if you don't show
the judges you want it,
961
00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:34,555
if they can't feel your heart
and your dedication
962
00:49:34,638 --> 00:49:36,223
while you're up there,
you ain't gonna win.
963
00:49:36,307 --> 00:49:38,851
[Jeremy] Walk out, you hit your routine.
At the national level and amateur level,
964
00:49:38,934 --> 00:49:41,270
you get the front and back pose,
back to the front, three poses, okay?
965
00:49:41,353 --> 00:49:44,315
-[David] One, two, three.
-Nope, switch your foot work.
966
00:49:44,398 --> 00:49:46,775
Come on, what we just did.
Practice. Step across, step back.
967
00:49:46,859 --> 00:49:48,277
-One, two, three.
-Perfect practice.
968
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,280
[Jeremy] And bam, one, two.
Open up, elevate the shoulders.
969
00:49:53,407 --> 00:49:56,869
[Sadik] You're not as wide
as you could be. Yeah, now you are.
970
00:49:56,952 --> 00:49:58,037
-Feel that?
-Yeah.
971
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,121
Right there.
972
00:49:59,205 --> 00:50:01,998
-So my rear delt's not popping?
-There.
973
00:50:02,082 --> 00:50:03,542
[Hany] Right there.
974
00:50:03,626 --> 00:50:05,920
Right there. Stay right there.
975
00:50:06,002 --> 00:50:08,172
Stay right there. There.
976
00:50:09,965 --> 00:50:11,509
[Hany] Get the shoulders up.
977
00:50:11,592 --> 00:50:13,511
What you do is
when your shoulders come down,
978
00:50:13,594 --> 00:50:15,011
you're gonna look straight up and down.
979
00:50:15,095 --> 00:50:17,139
You're gonna lose your V-taper.
You gotta keep your shoulders up.
980
00:50:17,223 --> 00:50:19,058
The best man is gonna win.
981
00:50:19,141 --> 00:50:22,895
You wanna display the least amount
of weaknesses on that stage.
982
00:50:22,978 --> 00:50:25,481
[Jeremy] Step back across, nail it, boom.
983
00:50:25,564 --> 00:50:27,525
-One, two, three. Right?
-[Jeremy] Tight, right there.
984
00:50:27,608 --> 00:50:31,445
[Jeremy] Okay, obliques tight, good smile,
okay, stay smiling.
985
00:50:31,529 --> 00:50:34,281
You gotta keep that smile
'cause when you're smilin' on stage,
986
00:50:34,365 --> 00:50:36,700
you have to be able to keep your abs tight
so your breathing technique,
987
00:50:36,784 --> 00:50:38,410
when you're on stage,
has gotta be specific.
988
00:50:38,494 --> 00:50:41,830
Short breaths, breathing through the chest
not through the stomach, okay?
989
00:50:41,914 --> 00:50:44,875
Let me tell you something
about catching your breath.
990
00:50:44,959 --> 00:50:47,378
You're looking at the judges.
You know when they're focusing on you
991
00:50:47,461 --> 00:50:49,505
and when they're focused on the guy
at the center stage.
992
00:50:49,588 --> 00:50:52,258
When I need to catch my breath,
I wait for the right moment.
993
00:50:52,341 --> 00:50:54,176
When they're not looking at me,
and I go... [exhales]
994
00:50:54,260 --> 00:50:56,095
I hold my breath again,
and I contract the abs.
995
00:50:56,178 --> 00:50:59,765
[Jeremy] A guy covers you up on stage,
you gotta make sure you step out.
996
00:50:59,848 --> 00:51:01,684
So what's gonna happen is there's gonna
be a bunch of guys lined up.
997
00:51:01,767 --> 00:51:03,978
So line up on the side,
Matt's gonna do his routine,
998
00:51:04,060 --> 00:51:06,313
line up on the side,
he's gonna step right in front of you.
999
00:51:06,397 --> 00:51:07,398
So bam.
1000
00:51:07,481 --> 00:51:09,817
If that's the case,
you need to step out this way.
1001
00:51:09,900 --> 00:51:11,151
-Keep stepping out.
-[Jeremy] Keep stepping out.
1002
00:51:11,235 --> 00:51:13,279
The expeditors on the stage--
Not in front of him.
1003
00:51:13,362 --> 00:51:16,031
This is important though
because if you guys get lost on the side,
1004
00:51:16,115 --> 00:51:17,366
you get covered up,
they're not gonna see you.
1005
00:51:17,449 --> 00:51:19,159
They're not gonna call you out
for the first callouts.
1006
00:51:19,243 --> 00:51:21,453
You can keep bumping out.
There's expeditors on the stage.
1007
00:51:21,537 --> 00:51:23,706
I don't care if you get up
in the middle of the stage,
1008
00:51:23,789 --> 00:51:25,624
it's not your job to get covered up.
1009
00:51:25,708 --> 00:51:28,544
It's their job to keep you guys in a line,
so keep stepping out,
1010
00:51:28,627 --> 00:51:30,337
and they'll pull you guys back in, okay?
1011
00:51:30,421 --> 00:51:34,842
So don't worry about overshadowing
somebody 'cause it's about you.
1012
00:51:34,925 --> 00:51:36,677
So, I used to doing NPC,
1013
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,887
I used to switch my pose
every six seconds.
1014
00:51:38,971 --> 00:51:40,180
Yeah, keep moving a little bit.
1015
00:51:40,264 --> 00:51:44,184
And it's gonna attract their eye, like,
"Why does Kimmerle keep moving?
1016
00:51:44,268 --> 00:51:45,769
Oh, actually,
he's got a really good physique.
1017
00:51:45,853 --> 00:51:48,063
Maybe I'm gonna bump him up
on the score card."
1018
00:51:48,147 --> 00:51:49,356
So always have their attention.
1019
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:53,319
One of the most important things
going into a men's physique show,
1020
00:51:53,402 --> 00:51:55,279
I always tell them three things,
1021
00:51:55,362 --> 00:52:00,868
small waist, rounded deltoids,
and a ridiculous V-taper.
1022
00:52:00,951 --> 00:52:04,288
It's hard to be able to, you know,
embrace my off-season,
1023
00:52:04,371 --> 00:52:06,540
you know, especially with everything
I've been seeing in the social media,
1024
00:52:06,624 --> 00:52:10,126
and, you know, the hate I've been getting
for not being stage-ready all the time.
1025
00:52:10,210 --> 00:52:14,089
Your body needs to rest, and as you know,
every time your body gets worn down,
1026
00:52:14,173 --> 00:52:17,133
it doesn't wanna change,
it doesn't wanna start getting leaner.
1027
00:52:17,217 --> 00:52:20,220
It hits that plateau, and it does that
because your body's adapting.
1028
00:52:20,304 --> 00:52:23,599
It's fighting against trying to come down
and get ultra lean.
1029
00:52:23,682 --> 00:52:27,061
So, when your body has that break,
you saw what it did,
1030
00:52:27,143 --> 00:52:28,771
we were able to make
some huge changes.
1031
00:52:28,854 --> 00:52:32,107
We put seven pounds of pure muscle on you
and got you harder and more conditioned
1032
00:52:32,191 --> 00:52:33,400
than you've ever been before.
1033
00:52:33,484 --> 00:52:36,487
But if we just jump right back
into a prep, it's gonna be,
1034
00:52:36,570 --> 00:52:38,405
God, three weeks from now,
four weeks from now,
1035
00:52:38,489 --> 00:52:39,907
we're gonna have to start getting ready.
1036
00:52:39,990 --> 00:52:43,035
Your body's not gonna be able to bounce
back when you're not even done dieting
1037
00:52:43,118 --> 00:52:44,953
for all these photoshoots
that we're still doing.
1038
00:52:45,037 --> 00:52:46,497
We're not even done doing that yet.
1039
00:52:46,580 --> 00:52:49,416
So we have to try to strategize,
create the blueprint,
1040
00:52:49,500 --> 00:52:51,669
work off of being able
to work on the offseason.
1041
00:52:51,752 --> 00:52:53,629
The guys keep getting bigger and bigger,
1042
00:52:53,712 --> 00:52:57,007
bring you in a little bit bigger,
bring you in just, you know, just as hard.
1043
00:52:57,091 --> 00:52:59,927
I thought condition was right on point
'cause you don't wanna get too hard,
1044
00:53:00,010 --> 00:53:02,596
but being a little bit
fuller on your body,
1045
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,306
getting a little bit
more muscular is okay.
1046
00:53:04,390 --> 00:53:07,476
But we can't--
We gotta draw a really thin line
1047
00:53:07,559 --> 00:53:09,728
because at the end of the day,
this isn't bodybuilding.
1048
00:53:09,812 --> 00:53:12,439
We don't wanna go the other way.
This is one of those sports
1049
00:53:12,523 --> 00:53:14,858
that if you're almost too good,
it's gonna hurt you.
1050
00:53:14,942 --> 00:53:16,485
You have to have that right balance.
1051
00:53:16,568 --> 00:53:18,194
Being the champion is new to me so...
1052
00:53:18,278 --> 00:53:20,989
You know, understanding that this
is what's gonna come along with it,
1053
00:53:21,073 --> 00:53:23,575
you know, is, um, something I'm learning.
1054
00:53:23,659 --> 00:53:25,911
At the end of the day, you gotta
be confident with who you are,
1055
00:53:25,994 --> 00:53:27,871
and you don't have to prove yourself,
you already did that.
1056
00:53:27,955 --> 00:53:31,709
I have pictures of Jeremy, you know,
getting presented the first place award
1057
00:53:31,792 --> 00:53:35,087
at the Olympia, on my phone,
just to remind myself, you know.
1058
00:53:35,170 --> 00:53:37,923
I'm proud of his accomplishment,
you know, and that's what I want.
1059
00:53:38,006 --> 00:53:41,343
I think hunger is the most
important thing, you know, when, uh...
1060
00:53:41,427 --> 00:53:45,013
The only thing that makes me hungry is,
you know, failure.
1061
00:53:45,097 --> 00:53:47,266
And I'm an athlete
that's not afraid to fail.
1062
00:53:47,349 --> 00:53:50,436
If I get second or third, you know,
that's what I consider failing.
1063
00:53:50,519 --> 00:53:52,187
Although it's a really great thing,
1064
00:53:52,271 --> 00:53:55,065
that's what pushes me
and makes me excel to the next level.
1065
00:53:55,149 --> 00:53:57,359
After this year's Olympia,
a lot of people were like,
1066
00:53:57,443 --> 00:54:00,404
"Hey, man, how do you feel?
Are you upset you got second place?"
1067
00:54:00,487 --> 00:54:02,656
I was like, "No, it was the best thing
that could happen."
1068
00:54:02,740 --> 00:54:04,616
In my mind, being perfect
is being Mr. Olympia.
1069
00:54:04,700 --> 00:54:07,494
And you know what?
I'm number two in the world.
1070
00:54:07,578 --> 00:54:09,288
I didn't win because I wasn't the best.
1071
00:54:09,371 --> 00:54:12,416
So I'm gonna get back to the gym,
and I'm gonna train until I'm number one.
1072
00:54:29,099 --> 00:54:30,058
[groans]
1073
00:54:30,142 --> 00:54:34,396
[Dennis] One, two, three.
Slow it down. Come on.
1074
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:39,568
-[groans]
-[Dennis] Come on, come on.
1075
00:54:40,944 --> 00:54:42,154
-[grunts]
-[Dennis] Slow it down.
1076
00:54:42,237 --> 00:54:45,783
-[groaning] Last one.
-Come on! Up!
1077
00:54:46,575 --> 00:54:48,660
-First place.
-First place.
1078
00:54:48,744 --> 00:54:51,538
-One!
-More, more. Last one.
1079
00:54:51,622 --> 00:54:53,373
[screams]
1080
00:54:53,457 --> 00:54:55,584
[Dennis] Let's go. All the way
to the top. Do it slow.
1081
00:54:55,667 --> 00:54:56,752
-Do it slow.
-[screams]
1082
00:54:56,835 --> 00:54:58,462
Come on. All you, no help.
1083
00:54:58,545 --> 00:55:01,840
Come on, come on.
Get it, get it, get it. Come on.
1084
00:55:01,924 --> 00:55:04,635
-Come on.
-Fuck! Fuck!
1085
00:55:04,718 --> 00:55:06,762
-That's how you do it.
-Fuck!
1086
00:55:06,929 --> 00:55:09,223
-Whoa. Shit.
-[Dennis chuckling]
1087
00:55:09,305 --> 00:55:11,767
-[Dennis] Woo!
-Oh, fuck.
1088
00:55:12,226 --> 00:55:13,227
[breathes heavily]
1089
00:55:14,645 --> 00:55:18,565
-[groans] Oh, fuck.
-You all right? You all right?
1090
00:55:18,649 --> 00:55:22,318
I'm good, big boy. This is what
it takes to be number one, huh?
1091
00:55:22,402 --> 00:55:23,362
[ice splashing]
1092
00:55:23,445 --> 00:55:27,741
[Sadik] This is the torturous stuff I do
to move from second to first place.
1093
00:55:37,209 --> 00:55:40,336
All these little details
that competitors don't wanna do
1094
00:55:40,420 --> 00:55:44,340
to make the improvements
they wanna make, this is one of them.
1095
00:55:45,425 --> 00:55:48,512
Are you willing to suffer?
You know how bad do you wanna win?
1096
00:55:48,595 --> 00:55:51,223
Do you wanna jump in a tub
full of fucking ice?
1097
00:55:52,140 --> 00:55:54,810
You ask me, I wanna win.
And that's what I'm willing to do.
1098
00:55:54,893 --> 00:55:56,728
[exhales]
1099
00:56:08,031 --> 00:56:09,032
[grunts]
1100
00:56:11,618 --> 00:56:15,831
I was diagnosed with diabetes
September 1st, 2011.
1101
00:56:15,914 --> 00:56:17,416
I admitted myself to the hospital,
1102
00:56:17,499 --> 00:56:21,128
and they found my blood sugar
was a little over 550,
1103
00:56:21,211 --> 00:56:23,714
which the doctors told me
was close to comatose level.
1104
00:56:23,797 --> 00:56:26,758
Crazy, crazy symptoms,
like unhealable sores,
1105
00:56:26,842 --> 00:56:28,135
you know, um, numb,
1106
00:56:28,218 --> 00:56:31,972
uh, tingling in the hands and feet
that leads to amputations,
1107
00:56:32,055 --> 00:56:35,851
um, chemicals in the brain
that can cause ketoacidosis
1108
00:56:35,934 --> 00:56:38,937
if the blood sugar gets too high,
you literally just go crazy.
1109
00:56:39,021 --> 00:56:42,232
The doctors do tell you,
"You can still eat the fruit,
1110
00:56:42,316 --> 00:56:44,776
you can still eat oatmeal,
you can still eat all these carbs,
1111
00:56:44,860 --> 00:56:47,613
you just dose your insulin."
1112
00:56:47,696 --> 00:56:49,615
Well, no, you can't eat normal.
1113
00:56:49,698 --> 00:56:52,200
You have to come to a point as a diabetic
1114
00:56:52,284 --> 00:56:55,954
that I have to eat low-carb
the rest of my life.
1115
00:56:56,038 --> 00:56:59,249
Keeping up with my blood sugar
and keeping up with my food,
1116
00:56:59,333 --> 00:57:03,462
I have to know exactly what I eat
every single time I eat.
1117
00:57:03,545 --> 00:57:05,297
It's gotta be precise,
1118
00:57:05,380 --> 00:57:09,801
and the medicine that goes into my body,
that when I inject my insulin,
1119
00:57:09,885 --> 00:57:14,097
I have to inject the exact amount
of carbohydrates and proteins,
1120
00:57:14,181 --> 00:57:15,766
and fats that I'm gonna eat,
1121
00:57:15,849 --> 00:57:18,268
or my blood sugar will go
up or down or fluctuate.
1122
00:57:18,352 --> 00:57:20,896
I don't go into the stomach,
like most diabetics,
1123
00:57:20,979 --> 00:57:24,399
because we've got our shirt off
as a IFBB Pro,
1124
00:57:24,483 --> 00:57:27,819
and I don't want the scar tissue
or the bruising on my stomach,
1125
00:57:27,903 --> 00:57:30,364
so, I put it on location that's hidden.
1126
00:57:30,447 --> 00:57:33,325
It's not easy,
and that's where I'm at now.
1127
00:57:33,408 --> 00:57:35,327
My life has changed.
1128
00:57:35,410 --> 00:57:37,955
Going through what I went through
my first year
1129
00:57:38,038 --> 00:57:39,957
of being diabetic, it sucked.
1130
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,627
I mean, I was like, you lay there
in bed, and you're kinda like,
1131
00:57:43,710 --> 00:57:47,798
"This is what the rest of my life's
gonna be like, really?"
1132
00:57:47,881 --> 00:57:51,802
And 'cause your energy level, I mean,
you just wanna sleep all day. There's--
1133
00:57:51,885 --> 00:57:53,887
All the diabetics know
what I'm going through,
1134
00:57:53,971 --> 00:57:57,599
and then the sick people, the other people
that deal with health issues.
1135
00:57:57,683 --> 00:58:02,187
So, what do you do? Do you cry about it?
Do you whine about it?
1136
00:58:02,270 --> 00:58:07,567
Yeah, you let it out, but at what point
do you say, enough is enough?
1137
00:58:13,407 --> 00:58:15,701
Nothing I wanna do more,
but to make him proud.
1138
00:58:15,784 --> 00:58:18,245
If I have one goal in life,
it's to make him proud.
1139
00:58:18,328 --> 00:58:23,083
My dad and I are so much alike, that,
you know, there's a close relationship,
1140
00:58:23,166 --> 00:58:26,670
but when we get in arguments,
we're both very, very stubborn,
1141
00:58:26,753 --> 00:58:29,673
and we're very, very similar
in how we get angry,
1142
00:58:29,756 --> 00:58:31,717
that we won't talk for months at a time.
1143
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,637
I will lay my pride down
to make things right with him
1144
00:58:35,721 --> 00:58:39,141
just so we can both be okay again.
'Cause my dad and I are tight like,
1145
00:58:39,224 --> 00:58:41,560
I'm on the phone with him
every single day, a couple times a day.
1146
00:58:41,643 --> 00:58:44,604
It kills me.
He didn't come to my first Olympia,
1147
00:58:44,688 --> 00:58:47,274
'cause we were arguing,
and that's the only show I ever lost.
1148
00:58:47,357 --> 00:58:49,901
I've never lost nothing for my dad.
1149
00:58:49,985 --> 00:58:53,697
Never. Never lost in front of my dad.
1150
00:58:53,780 --> 00:58:56,616
You know, my dad has
the highest expectations from me.
1151
00:58:56,700 --> 00:58:58,910
You know, when he looks at me,
he sees a star.
1152
00:58:58,994 --> 00:59:00,162
And that's the way it's always been.
1153
00:59:00,245 --> 00:59:03,123
My dad's always told me
that you're gonna be somebody.
1154
00:59:04,291 --> 00:59:06,835
I wouldn't change anything.
1155
00:59:07,794 --> 00:59:10,756
You know, [stammers]
I'm proud of the person I am.
1156
00:59:10,839 --> 00:59:14,301
I have my flaws and I know that,
and I work on them every single day.
1157
00:59:14,384 --> 00:59:17,804
I know exactly what my flaws are,
and I'm very aware of 'em.
1158
00:59:17,888 --> 00:59:20,682
Don't fight with somebody
that has a different opinion.
1159
00:59:20,766 --> 00:59:23,018
Don't fight with somebody
that likes him better than you.
1160
00:59:23,101 --> 00:59:25,979
How you gonna do that?
You wanna fight with everybody?
1161
00:59:26,063 --> 00:59:28,231
That's what you wanna do?
That's not a champ.
1162
00:59:28,315 --> 00:59:30,525
Champ is keep your cool, keep your cool.
1163
00:59:30,609 --> 00:59:32,527
When something like this happens,
keep your cool.
1164
00:59:32,611 --> 00:59:34,821
You're the champ.
[stammers] You're not supposed to fight.
1165
00:59:34,905 --> 00:59:37,074
You're supposed to be the champ.
Act like a champ.
1166
00:59:37,157 --> 00:59:40,619
You almost got in a fight with my director
of marketing of last year
1167
00:59:40,702 --> 00:59:43,955
the day after the Olympia in the gym.
You almost got in a fist fight.
1168
00:59:44,039 --> 00:59:47,084
I mean, I got a phone call saying,
"You need to drop this guy.
1169
00:59:47,167 --> 00:59:48,960
This guy is no good. He is not--
1170
00:59:49,044 --> 00:59:51,880
He doesn't have the right attitude,
he doesn't have this, he's not fixable."
1171
00:59:51,963 --> 00:59:54,216
And I just said
I'm gonna do whatever I can
1172
00:59:54,299 --> 00:59:56,259
to make sure that we can turn him around.
1173
00:59:56,343 --> 00:59:59,096
And I knew that
we could try to focus, you know,
1174
00:59:59,179 --> 01:00:02,724
all that anger into training
and being able to focus on, you know,
1175
01:00:02,808 --> 01:00:06,061
that end goal, which is try to, you know,
win the biggest show in the world.
1176
01:00:06,144 --> 01:00:08,980
I've really seen a huge change
just since last year.
1177
01:00:09,064 --> 01:00:10,732
I demand respect.
1178
01:00:10,816 --> 01:00:12,651
I don't want--
I don't deserve to be disrespected.
1179
01:00:12,734 --> 01:00:15,862
I'm a good person. I work my butt off
and I do what I'm supposed to be doing.
1180
01:00:15,946 --> 01:00:17,030
You know, nobody--
1181
01:00:17,114 --> 01:00:22,077
I don't feel anybody has the right
to disrespect me or belittle me.
1182
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,622
And I feel that's why I get so upset
when people do say stuff to me.
1183
01:00:25,705 --> 01:00:27,624
Everyone has their own definition
of winning.
1184
01:00:27,707 --> 01:00:30,460
You know, to me, I mean,
I see success in every failure
1185
01:00:30,544 --> 01:00:34,631
because every time I lose, I get better.
You know, so what is winning?
1186
01:00:34,714 --> 01:00:38,593
Getting gold medal
when you weren't the best guy on stage?
1187
01:00:38,677 --> 01:00:39,970
What about if that does happen
1188
01:00:40,053 --> 01:00:41,930
and you know that
you're not the best guy on stage,
1189
01:00:42,013 --> 01:00:43,682
and then what? You're not the winner.
1190
01:00:43,765 --> 01:00:46,977
You know, so you can't sleep at night.
That gold medal doesn't mean anything.
1191
01:00:47,060 --> 01:00:49,146
So when you know that
you were the best guy,
1192
01:00:49,229 --> 01:00:50,856
regardless of the placing that--
1193
01:00:50,939 --> 01:00:53,191
Where you placed, that's winning.
1194
01:00:53,275 --> 01:00:54,985
[exhales]
1195
01:00:55,068 --> 01:00:57,779
They can work their hardest
all they want to. It's not good enough.
1196
01:00:57,863 --> 01:01:00,866
[breathes heavily]
1197
01:01:00,949 --> 01:01:02,409
I'm meant to be the best.
1198
01:01:05,412 --> 01:01:08,290
Nobody will ever take
that away from me.
1199
01:01:08,373 --> 01:01:09,958
[exhales]
1200
01:01:10,041 --> 01:01:12,127
Yep. Come on.
1201
01:01:23,388 --> 01:01:24,723
Come on!
1202
01:01:24,806 --> 01:01:27,350
[grunts]
1203
01:01:36,818 --> 01:01:37,986
Come on!
1204
01:01:44,576 --> 01:01:47,662
How important is supplements,
nutrition supplements?
1205
01:01:47,746 --> 01:01:50,790
And, what, if you do, what do you use?
1206
01:01:50,874 --> 01:01:55,086
You know, I'm taking, uh,
the multivitamin from MET-Rx.
1207
01:01:55,170 --> 01:02:00,091
[Jason] I'm taking the carnitine,
CLA, um...
1208
01:02:00,175 --> 01:02:03,428
The whey protein powder,
probably once a day.
1209
01:02:03,511 --> 01:02:04,804
You guys travel all the time,
1210
01:02:04,888 --> 01:02:07,015
-so you can't have a kitchen with you.
-Mm-hm.
1211
01:02:07,098 --> 01:02:09,726
When I'm traveling, I like to make sure
that I bring enough protein,
1212
01:02:09,809 --> 01:02:13,688
so I can snack down three shakes a day
while I'm there
1213
01:02:13,772 --> 01:02:18,276
because I don't know how readily available
good quality food is.
1214
01:02:22,989 --> 01:02:27,786
I do, uh, two protein shakes a day.
I do one first thing in the morning, um,
1215
01:02:27,869 --> 01:02:30,538
and instead of adding water,
I add egg whites.
1216
01:02:30,622 --> 01:02:35,210
It's a hydrolyzed isolate whey,
and then I do one post-workout.
1217
01:02:35,293 --> 01:02:39,005
Um, I do a pre-workout as well
just because I like the energy,
1218
01:02:39,089 --> 01:02:41,091
the focus, the endurance of it.
1219
01:02:41,174 --> 01:02:44,511
Um, and then I do a fat burner
and a multivitamin.
1220
01:02:44,594 --> 01:02:47,973
And that's, keep it pretty simple
but the basics. It works pretty well.
1221
01:02:48,056 --> 01:02:51,268
And it's the off-season,
like Jeremy and Sadik,
1222
01:02:51,351 --> 01:02:53,019
what do you guys rely on right now?
1223
01:02:53,103 --> 01:02:56,231
Um, definitely
a fast-acting carbohydrate drink.
1224
01:02:56,314 --> 01:03:00,068
-Carbohydrates.
-Which I'll either drink pre-workout,
1225
01:03:00,151 --> 01:03:01,861
I might drink it intra-workout,
1226
01:03:01,945 --> 01:03:03,571
-or post-workout.
-[Dennis] Mm-hm.
1227
01:03:03,655 --> 01:03:06,449
So you don't use it intra and post,
so you choose either one?
1228
01:03:06,533 --> 01:03:09,244
I will choose depending
on how many carbohydrate meals I had
1229
01:03:09,327 --> 01:03:10,620
leading up to that day,
1230
01:03:10,704 --> 01:03:14,040
but most of the time, I find myself
drinking it during my workout.
1231
01:03:14,124 --> 01:03:19,087
I'll mix in some BCAAs to help
keep me anabolic during my workout,
1232
01:03:19,170 --> 01:03:23,133
um, as well as, I will take
a protein shake, of course.
1233
01:03:23,216 --> 01:03:26,886
I'm sure all of us use protein shakes,
um, in addition to a pre-workout.
1234
01:03:26,970 --> 01:03:29,389
You know, I don't get to the gym
'til 8:00 p.m.,
1235
01:03:29,472 --> 01:03:32,726
so I need that, you know, boost
from the pre-workout to get me fired up.
1236
01:03:32,809 --> 01:03:38,023
You know, let's talk a little bit about
the differences between protein.
1237
01:03:38,106 --> 01:03:40,734
Like, um, do you take in casein?
1238
01:03:40,817 --> 01:03:43,236
[Sadik] On the off-season,
I'll absolutely take in casein.
1239
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:46,364
This way, you know, I have a steady
release of protein while I'm sleeping.
1240
01:03:47,532 --> 01:03:49,409
How about Hydro-Iso?
1241
01:03:49,492 --> 01:03:51,536
Hydrolyze, not in the off-season
because it's...
1242
01:03:51,619 --> 01:03:53,079
-It's very expensive.
-[TJ] Mm-hm.
1243
01:03:53,163 --> 01:03:55,165
But I'll take an isolate, uh, off-season.
1244
01:03:55,248 --> 01:03:57,834
And I'll switch to a hydrolyzed
when I'm closer to a show.
1245
01:03:57,917 --> 01:04:00,128
And how do those react
differently for you?
1246
01:04:00,211 --> 01:04:03,631
Um, well, under the Olympia
stage lights, you know,
1247
01:04:03,715 --> 01:04:05,508
if they react you can see the difference,
1248
01:04:05,592 --> 01:04:07,260
you know, between the hydrolate
and the isolate.
1249
01:04:07,344 --> 01:04:09,554
Isolate, you know,
has a little bit of dairy in it,
1250
01:04:09,637 --> 01:04:10,805
whereas the hydrolyzed doesn't.
1251
01:04:10,889 --> 01:04:12,265
-It doesn't convert to dairy.
-[TJ] Mm-hm.
1252
01:04:12,349 --> 01:04:14,351
So, it's a big difference, you know,
1253
01:04:14,434 --> 01:04:15,769
when you're sitting
in front of the judges,
1254
01:04:15,852 --> 01:04:19,356
but for the average person trying
to look good, there's no difference.
1255
01:04:19,439 --> 01:04:23,401
Creatine, BCAAs,
uh, I like to use a carnitine,
1256
01:04:23,485 --> 01:04:27,989
uh, before my workouts
to help convert the fat into energy.
1257
01:04:28,073 --> 01:04:31,284
Um, I use a fast-acting carbohydrate,
and, uh,
1258
01:04:31,368 --> 01:04:34,662
that concern--
that is determined on what body part
1259
01:04:34,746 --> 01:04:36,998
I'm training, and how much I use of that.
1260
01:04:37,082 --> 01:04:41,044
On a lagging body part,
I'm gonna use more of that
1261
01:04:41,127 --> 01:04:44,839
to just make sure I'm getting the optimal
out of my body on that specific day,
1262
01:04:44,923 --> 01:04:48,176
so my body is in a surplus,
so my specific muscle group
1263
01:04:48,259 --> 01:04:49,886
will have more than enough to grow.
1264
01:04:49,969 --> 01:04:51,054
To maximize hypertrophy,
1265
01:04:51,137 --> 01:04:53,181
you have to consistently give
the body nutrients
1266
01:04:53,264 --> 01:04:54,766
-and shuttle those nutrients through.
-Exactly.
1267
01:04:54,849 --> 01:04:57,769
I've found as I've gotten older,
you know, recovery is critical,
1268
01:04:57,852 --> 01:05:00,647
so a lot of glutamine I use
post-workout with my protein.
1269
01:05:00,730 --> 01:05:04,776
I do use a pre-workout 'cause I wanna--
I need that kick in the ass, you know.
1270
01:05:04,859 --> 01:05:08,488
Um, but I've noticed
an absolute correlation between,
1271
01:05:08,571 --> 01:05:11,491
you know, um,
specific protocol post-workout
1272
01:05:11,574 --> 01:05:12,826
that's gonna optimize recovery
1273
01:05:12,909 --> 01:05:15,412
because I'm jacking up
the intensity to my workout.
1274
01:05:15,495 --> 01:05:18,540
So I'm coming in full steam, you know,
I'm gonna hit that workout hard,
1275
01:05:18,623 --> 01:05:23,086
but I also need to make sure
that just as much prep is on the back end
1276
01:05:23,169 --> 01:05:24,546
to, uh, help the recovery process.
1277
01:05:24,629 --> 01:05:26,423
-ZMA, minerals...
-[Dennis] Yeah.
1278
01:05:26,506 --> 01:05:28,967
Um, anything I can do,
um, as an older guy.
1279
01:05:29,050 --> 01:05:32,262
I'm 40, so, um, ZMA is gonna
give me that zinc that I need.
1280
01:05:32,345 --> 01:05:35,807
Magnesium, that's gonna help me
rest and get that, uh, that growth.
1281
01:05:35,890 --> 01:05:38,393
There's so many great supplements.
1282
01:05:38,476 --> 01:05:40,353
Um, but I think
what overrides it, obviously,
1283
01:05:40,437 --> 01:05:41,896
I think intensity is the number one.
1284
01:05:41,980 --> 01:05:43,398
You're in the gym for an hour.
1285
01:05:43,481 --> 01:05:46,568
These supplements really give you
150 percent return of your hour,
1286
01:05:46,651 --> 01:05:49,946
as opposed to other things,
because it immediately goes to the body,
1287
01:05:50,029 --> 01:05:51,698
because it's not really
what you're taking,
1288
01:05:51,781 --> 01:05:54,367
it's the time in which you take,
and what your body absorbs.
1289
01:05:54,451 --> 01:05:58,121
So we don't really grow in the gym,
we all know. We get weaker, actually.
1290
01:05:58,204 --> 01:06:01,666
Well, we create a demand for our body
to grow outside with rest and nutrition.
1291
01:06:01,749 --> 01:06:05,712
So we can do a hard workout
that sponge our muscles, now rung out,
1292
01:06:05,795 --> 01:06:07,005
it's ready to be absorbed, anything.
1293
01:06:07,088 --> 01:06:10,550
We can pour on these supplements,
which is like a concrete, uh,
1294
01:06:10,633 --> 01:06:13,803
more pure form that our muscle--
The perfect food for it.
1295
01:06:13,887 --> 01:06:15,388
There's certain supplements
you take at night,
1296
01:06:15,472 --> 01:06:18,099
you know, that slow-released,
you know, uh, protein with casein,
1297
01:06:18,183 --> 01:06:20,602
you know, but right after the gym,
you don't wanna take that.
1298
01:06:20,685 --> 01:06:23,563
And just like carbs, and, uh--
There's good carbs and bad carbs.
1299
01:06:23,646 --> 01:06:25,607
What overrides a good carb or a bad carb
1300
01:06:25,690 --> 01:06:27,901
is a good opportunity
or a bad opportunity to take it
1301
01:06:27,984 --> 01:06:30,612
because you don't wanna take
a good carb right before the gym.
1302
01:06:30,695 --> 01:06:32,906
No, you want to take a bad carb,
something with sugar,
1303
01:06:32,989 --> 01:06:36,242
so at that time, a good carb is bad
because of the timing.
1304
01:06:36,326 --> 01:06:38,870
So mine... My six are like, so...
1305
01:06:38,953 --> 01:06:44,709
Protein, um, BCAAs, L-glutamine, uh,
creatine, HMB. I like 'em both.
1306
01:06:44,792 --> 01:06:46,628
Um, you need your multivitamin
like you said.
1307
01:06:46,711 --> 01:06:49,547
You need fish oil, pre-workout to go,
1308
01:06:49,631 --> 01:06:53,176
but number one... number one
is intensity and pussy, man.
1309
01:06:53,259 --> 01:06:55,553
-[all laughing]
-You gotta get that pussy.
1310
01:06:55,637 --> 01:06:59,015
-Nothing drives you.
-The ultimate anabolic supplement.
1311
01:06:59,098 --> 01:07:01,059
Nothing drives you better,
nothing drives you better.
1312
01:07:01,142 --> 01:07:02,852
[laughter]
1313
01:07:35,635 --> 01:07:36,636
[exhales]
1314
01:07:36,719 --> 01:07:38,930
-Good run, man. That was a good run.
-Yeah.
1315
01:07:39,013 --> 01:07:41,182
Yeah, it couldn't be
a better night for it, man.
1316
01:07:41,266 --> 01:07:44,477
-Yeah, it's beautiful here.
-Yeah, it's therapy, in a way.
1317
01:07:44,561 --> 01:07:45,770
I think most people think the gym
1318
01:07:45,853 --> 01:07:47,480
is all about putting on size
and everything else,
1319
01:07:47,564 --> 01:07:49,065
-and building this external body.
-Mm-hm.
1320
01:07:49,148 --> 01:07:50,024
And as you know,
1321
01:07:50,108 --> 01:07:51,901
especially in the war-time environment
in the military,
1322
01:07:51,985 --> 01:07:55,029
the mind's your strongest weapon, I mean,
how many days have you gone through hell,
1323
01:07:55,113 --> 01:07:57,949
and the body just doesn't work anymore.
What keeps you going is the mindset.
1324
01:07:58,032 --> 01:08:00,618
-Right.
-That's always the limiting factor, so...
1325
01:08:00,702 --> 01:08:02,412
-You build that in the gym.
-Mm-hm.
1326
01:08:02,495 --> 01:08:04,956
-And you build this way of life.
-Fitness is my lifestyle.
1327
01:08:05,039 --> 01:08:06,749
-Sure, sure.
-I love every aspect of it.
1328
01:08:06,833 --> 01:08:08,126
So I just chase my dreams.
1329
01:08:08,209 --> 01:08:11,713
That's a big thing with fitness models
and this career. What is your goal?
1330
01:08:11,796 --> 01:08:13,881
What gets you up in the morning
to go that distance?
1331
01:08:13,965 --> 01:08:16,843
It can't be about the vanity of mirrors.
It's gotta be something deeper than that.
1332
01:08:16,926 --> 01:08:19,762
But also, there is a whole another army
1333
01:08:19,846 --> 01:08:22,682
-of lost souls in the civilian sector...
-Mm-hm.
1334
01:08:22,765 --> 01:08:25,602
That really think this gym
is just hard work and it's sacrifice.
1335
01:08:25,685 --> 01:08:27,645
They don't understand
the return of investment you get.
1336
01:08:27,729 --> 01:08:30,481
[TJ] You have the right fire
to go the distance.
1337
01:08:30,565 --> 01:08:33,443
You have the ability, physically,
to achieve all this stuff.
1338
01:08:33,526 --> 01:08:35,695
It's about do you have
the mentality to endure it?
1339
01:08:59,719 --> 01:09:02,930
I mean, have you guys ever felt
like [stammers] this career, you know,
1340
01:09:03,014 --> 01:09:04,223
it ball and chains on you?
1341
01:09:04,307 --> 01:09:06,184
-Like you can't live a life?
-Oh, yeah.
1342
01:09:06,267 --> 01:09:10,480
As a competitor, a certain extent,
it's different because... I know that--
1343
01:09:10,563 --> 01:09:12,940
I don't know one competitor
who doesn't eat out of Tupperware.
1344
01:09:13,024 --> 01:09:15,610
I don't know one competitor
that doesn't have everything
1345
01:09:15,693 --> 01:09:17,070
structured and systematic.
1346
01:09:17,153 --> 01:09:20,198
You know, I don't carry gallons of water
with me to the gym
1347
01:09:20,281 --> 01:09:21,783
'cause we might have a shortage.
1348
01:09:21,866 --> 01:09:23,826
And I'm not Tupperwaring
all my meals and stuff.
1349
01:09:23,910 --> 01:09:25,870
But there's certain things
that you're obligated to do
1350
01:09:25,953 --> 01:09:27,497
when we're getting ready
for a competition.
1351
01:09:27,580 --> 01:09:30,333
Like every morning getting up
and doing our fasted cardio
1352
01:09:30,416 --> 01:09:32,418
and hitting our workouts,
and staying on schedule
1353
01:09:32,502 --> 01:09:34,170
for each body part
we're supposed to train.
1354
01:09:34,253 --> 01:09:36,756
-Let me throw in another question.
-Our food in our diet
1355
01:09:36,839 --> 01:09:39,467
being in accordance to what we're doing,
1356
01:09:39,550 --> 01:09:41,552
because in that specific time,
everything has a plan.
1357
01:09:41,636 --> 01:09:44,806
Right. Do you see that
as, um, a sacrifice?
1358
01:09:44,889 --> 01:09:47,934
Do you see it as like, "Oh, man.
I wish I could go out with the guys?"
1359
01:09:48,017 --> 01:09:49,519
-I wish I could do that.
-Yeah. Of course.
1360
01:09:49,602 --> 01:09:52,438
You know, I wish, I'd rather eat a burger
than eat tilapia and asparagus.
1361
01:09:52,522 --> 01:09:53,523
-Yeah.
-I don't see that.
1362
01:09:53,606 --> 01:09:54,982
Here's my biggest fucking issue with that.
1363
01:09:55,066 --> 01:09:57,402
Because a burger's
a temporary satisfaction.
1364
01:09:57,485 --> 01:09:59,654
Going out with the boys
is temporary relievement, you know.
1365
01:09:59,737 --> 01:10:01,364
You won't remember any of those parties,
1366
01:10:01,447 --> 01:10:04,033
but you'll frame that picture
on your mantle.
1367
01:10:04,117 --> 01:10:06,577
That means more to me
in the balance of life,
1368
01:10:06,661 --> 01:10:11,082
the achievement, your title,
than any of the sacrifices of--
1369
01:10:11,165 --> 01:10:14,043
I can't eat a burger, I can't--
Fuck the burger, man.
1370
01:10:14,127 --> 01:10:15,795
You know, you're trying to live a legacy.
1371
01:10:15,878 --> 01:10:17,630
Anyone can eat a burger,
but not everyone can win.
1372
01:10:20,717 --> 01:10:23,302
[birds chirping]
1373
01:10:29,350 --> 01:10:32,145
[TJ] That was rip.
Let me have some of that.
1374
01:10:32,228 --> 01:10:33,187
Look at these.
1375
01:10:33,271 --> 01:10:35,273
I always cook mine in a huge bowl.
1376
01:10:36,065 --> 01:10:39,402
I've got peanut butter, pumpkin,
and salted caramel banana bread.
1377
01:10:39,485 --> 01:10:41,362
Pre-contest, I had nothing
in my house, right?
1378
01:10:41,446 --> 01:10:44,407
Nothing in my house, I'd--
Everything gone.
1379
01:10:44,490 --> 01:10:47,076
And I had a freak-out session,
a straight freak-out session.
1380
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:48,161
I was broke, you know, whatever,
1381
01:10:48,244 --> 01:10:49,787
-so I couldn't even go buy food.
-[Sabik] Right.
1382
01:10:49,871 --> 01:10:52,999
And I'm opening every cabinet.
I'm up on my knees, and my knees hurt.
1383
01:10:53,082 --> 01:10:55,668
Like I'm looking for anything,
and I find a can of beans.
1384
01:10:55,752 --> 01:10:58,796
As soon as-- I didn't even grab a spoon.
As soon as I got that thing open,
1385
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,007
-it just made it in my mouth,
-Yeah.
1386
01:11:01,090 --> 01:11:02,925
I'm sitting there in the kitchen,
just traumatized.
1387
01:11:03,009 --> 01:11:05,219
I go out to the balcony,
and I just started crying.
1388
01:11:05,303 --> 01:11:07,847
[mimics wailing]
"My God, what have I done?"
1389
01:11:07,930 --> 01:11:10,141
And then I thought,
"How stupid is this, Dave?
1390
01:11:10,224 --> 01:11:12,185
You deserve a can of beans.
You're all right."
1391
01:11:12,268 --> 01:11:14,103
-[all ]
-And then I'm having this...
1392
01:11:14,187 --> 01:11:15,980
And I'm having this conversation
with myself.
1393
01:11:16,063 --> 01:11:17,607
I sit down out here,
we're gonna be objective,
1394
01:11:17,690 --> 01:11:23,196
and I wrote a poem about how sad it is,
that at my size and age and time of life,
1395
01:11:23,279 --> 01:11:25,907
that eating a can of beans
is an emotional experience.
1396
01:11:25,990 --> 01:11:29,285
-It's an absolute train wreck for me.
-Dude, that's hilarious.
1397
01:11:29,368 --> 01:11:31,788
I can't do it, show's done.
I ate a can of beans.
1398
01:11:31,871 --> 01:11:34,040
-Oh, my God! I was like--
-I ate a can of beans.
1399
01:11:34,123 --> 01:11:36,751
You'd be more filled out.
It was like two weeks out.
1400
01:11:36,834 --> 01:11:38,836
You're just looking at your skin,
and you're holding water
1401
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:40,087
'cause you're swollen, and I'm just like,
1402
01:11:40,171 --> 01:11:43,174
"Man, this can of beans
is just gonna go right here.
1403
01:11:44,008 --> 01:11:45,760
You know how it is. You're so emotional.
1404
01:11:46,761 --> 01:11:50,097
[grunts]
1405
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:07,740
[grunting]
1406
01:12:30,012 --> 01:12:32,807
[grunts]
1407
01:12:36,769 --> 01:12:38,479
[exhales]
1408
01:12:38,563 --> 01:12:41,148
I go in to see the Vice President
of Chippendales, and he says,
1409
01:12:41,232 --> 01:12:43,442
"Yeah, sure, we'd love
to use you for the calendar."
1410
01:12:43,526 --> 01:12:45,152
I said, "Okay, I want the cover."
1411
01:12:46,028 --> 01:12:50,157
[TJ] And he said, "Um, okay.
But we want you to go on tour."
1412
01:12:50,241 --> 01:12:51,742
It was huge in Europe.
1413
01:12:51,826 --> 01:12:53,870
I decided I was gonna do
two, three month tours
1414
01:12:53,953 --> 01:12:57,665
because each tour
went to different parts of Europe.
1415
01:12:57,748 --> 01:13:01,627
So, there I was in my first show in Paris,
1416
01:13:01,711 --> 01:13:07,258
you know, in front of 8,500 women,
scared out of my mind.
1417
01:13:07,341 --> 01:13:10,428
So we do the show, I forget, seriously,
all my wardrobe changes,
1418
01:13:10,511 --> 01:13:14,307
I'm coming out in the wrong costumes,
I'm doing the wrong choreography,
1419
01:13:14,390 --> 01:13:16,934
but all I could think to myself
was nobody knows anything.
1420
01:13:17,018 --> 01:13:20,187
Just smile. They're not gonna
know anything. Own it.
1421
01:13:20,271 --> 01:13:22,773
You know, the opening of every show,
I get lowered from this cable,
1422
01:13:22,857 --> 01:13:26,110
so I'm originally above the proscenium,
then I get lowered very slowly,
1423
01:13:26,193 --> 01:13:28,029
like almost like a fallen angel.
1424
01:13:28,112 --> 01:13:31,365
I have one foot in the stirrup,
one hand in the safety strap,
1425
01:13:31,449 --> 01:13:34,160
and when the curtains opened
for the opening of the show,
1426
01:13:34,243 --> 01:13:37,288
they wrapped around me, spun me out,
knocked my foot out of the harness,
1427
01:13:37,371 --> 01:13:40,166
and then I watched the safety strap
just unravel.
1428
01:13:40,249 --> 01:13:41,250
[mimics thudding]
1429
01:13:41,334 --> 01:13:44,128
And I just went reaching for it,
and it went through my fingers,
1430
01:13:44,211 --> 01:13:46,380
and I just thought, this is gonna hurt.
1431
01:13:46,464 --> 01:13:49,050
Then I thought to myself, "Okay,
don't hit your head, don't hit your head."
1432
01:13:49,133 --> 01:13:53,471
Landed on the stage first, then, wham!
I fall back, but I didn't hit my head.
1433
01:13:53,554 --> 01:13:57,475
I held it up, tore every muscle
in the front of my body, but I held it up.
1434
01:13:57,558 --> 01:14:01,145
Then I relax and I heard...
the whole audience gasped at once.
1435
01:14:01,228 --> 01:14:02,063
[gasps]
1436
01:14:02,146 --> 01:14:03,856
Then all of a sudden,
I'm saying to myself,
1437
01:14:03,940 --> 01:14:06,609
"Just don't go out, don't go out,
don't go out. Don't go unconscious."
1438
01:14:06,692 --> 01:14:09,737
One of my best buds is standing over me,
slapping me in the face going,
1439
01:14:09,820 --> 01:14:12,657
"Don't leave us, bro,
don't leave us, right?"
1440
01:14:12,740 --> 01:14:14,992
And my first reaction was, "I'm not hurt."
1441
01:14:16,452 --> 01:14:18,412
Pick me up.
I've taken harder hits in football.
1442
01:14:18,496 --> 01:14:20,456
I got a show to do. Let's do this.
1443
01:14:21,374 --> 01:14:24,877
They're like, "What?" And it was
about a good 35, 40 foot drop.
1444
01:14:24,961 --> 01:14:28,589
I didn't know I had internal bleeding
and a fractured hip and all that stuff,
1445
01:14:28,673 --> 01:14:30,883
but I go to take one step, nearly fainted,
1446
01:14:30,967 --> 01:14:33,761
they sat me down, flash forward,
I'm in the hospital and I'm realizing,
1447
01:14:33,844 --> 01:14:35,805
you almost just died,
you almost just died.
1448
01:14:35,888 --> 01:14:38,265
You're in a foreign country,
you're sitting in a hospital room,
1449
01:14:38,349 --> 01:14:41,560
in a backless robe, you have
internal bleeding, you fractured your hip.
1450
01:14:41,644 --> 01:14:44,730
It was from that point forward
that I decided,
1451
01:14:44,814 --> 01:14:48,275
you know, what kind of man I wanted to be.
1452
01:14:48,359 --> 01:14:50,778
And so I made a checklist
of every single quality
1453
01:14:50,861 --> 01:14:53,197
I wanted to possess as a man.
1454
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:55,574
If I were to die,
how would I wanna be remembered?
1455
01:14:55,658 --> 01:14:57,910
Me and a couple of friends
were actually headed down to Phoenix,
1456
01:14:57,994 --> 01:15:00,913
and we were in my buddies '79 Chevy,
1457
01:15:00,997 --> 01:15:03,874
big ol' pickup truck, big V8,
no seat belts.
1458
01:15:03,958 --> 01:15:07,044
And what we did was, we put
our bags in the back of the truck.
1459
01:15:07,128 --> 01:15:08,546
But since there was no tailgate,
1460
01:15:08,629 --> 01:15:11,048
we all kept looking behind us
the whole time,
1461
01:15:11,132 --> 01:15:14,135
looking behind us, looking behind us,
and they didn't even move, you know.
1462
01:15:14,218 --> 01:15:16,595
But I remember we came around
this very sharp corner,
1463
01:15:16,679 --> 01:15:18,389
and right before we came
around the corner,
1464
01:15:18,472 --> 01:15:20,558
we all looked back at the same time.
1465
01:15:20,641 --> 01:15:24,145
And when we looked forward,
we were on the guard rail.
1466
01:15:24,228 --> 01:15:26,814
And my friend, I mean,
I still remember him to this day,
1467
01:15:26,897 --> 01:15:29,066
just over-correcting like... Whoa!
1468
01:15:29,150 --> 01:15:32,361
We were doing 75,
it was our estimated speed.
1469
01:15:32,445 --> 01:15:34,572
And we hit a three-foot boulder,
'cause it launched us,
1470
01:15:34,655 --> 01:15:37,575
and we've rolled the truck up
to the top of the mountain.
1471
01:15:37,658 --> 01:15:39,994
And I actually couldn't get out
of the truck.
1472
01:15:40,077 --> 01:15:42,538
On the whole top of my head
was just wide open.
1473
01:15:42,621 --> 01:15:45,249
And I had this, you know,
when my face hit the windshield,
1474
01:15:45,332 --> 01:15:46,792
it went through right here.
1475
01:15:46,876 --> 01:15:48,836
So all this blood in my eyes,
I couldn't see.
1476
01:15:48,919 --> 01:15:52,214
All these people had to carry me down,
and then they put me in the helicopter.
1477
01:15:52,298 --> 01:15:55,134
I do remember them telling me this,
"We have six hours from the time
1478
01:15:55,217 --> 01:15:58,012
of the accident to get you in
or you're gonna lose your hip."
1479
01:15:58,095 --> 01:16:00,473
[exhales]
1480
01:16:00,556 --> 01:16:03,142
[Matt] Once I was finally able
to get out of bed,
1481
01:16:03,225 --> 01:16:05,519
I just remember looking at myself
in the mirror.
1482
01:16:05,603 --> 01:16:08,731
I noticed for the first time all the...
1483
01:16:09,732 --> 01:16:11,859
physical changes
I had made my body make.
1484
01:16:11,942 --> 01:16:14,528
I was like, "Man, actually,
look what I've done to my body
1485
01:16:14,612 --> 01:16:16,363
in just two years, this is amazing."
1486
01:16:16,447 --> 01:16:22,161
I remember wheeling myself into the gym
for the first time since the accident.
1487
01:16:22,244 --> 01:16:24,455
And my dad,
I could just tell he was so nervous.
1488
01:16:24,538 --> 01:16:26,457
He didn't wanna let go of that wheelchair.
1489
01:16:26,540 --> 01:16:32,338
And I got out of balance pretty fast
when you can only hit upper body.
1490
01:16:32,421 --> 01:16:36,092
It's pretty fast
how everything just atrophies and...
1491
01:16:36,175 --> 01:16:39,762
It was very hard not to be mad.
I was very mad for a little while.
1492
01:16:39,845 --> 01:16:42,598
Why me? Why this?
Now I can't do legs, you know.
1493
01:16:42,681 --> 01:16:46,769
It actually took me nine years
before I would step on stage
1494
01:16:46,852 --> 01:16:48,938
because I wanted my legs
to match my upper body.
1495
01:16:49,021 --> 01:16:51,065
-[screams]
-[Dennis] Now rep it out, five reps.
1496
01:16:51,148 --> 01:16:54,193
I was walking home.
I got a message on my phone.
1497
01:16:54,276 --> 01:16:58,030
It was my ex-wife,
and she said that she's taking my kids
1498
01:16:58,114 --> 01:17:01,534
to another state, and my heart dropped.
1499
01:17:01,617 --> 01:17:06,080
I mean, that moment
I was like, I'm losing my sons.
1500
01:17:06,163 --> 01:17:08,624
So, uh-- Sorry.
1501
01:17:11,669 --> 01:17:12,962
[sighs]
1502
01:17:14,213 --> 01:17:16,799
So at that point...
1503
01:17:16,882 --> 01:17:18,217
I just looked up.
1504
01:17:21,178 --> 01:17:23,889
I said, "Just give me a way."
1505
01:17:23,973 --> 01:17:27,560
'Cause I was working 60 hours a week
in a job that I hated.
1506
01:17:29,645 --> 01:17:34,859
And the only real thing that I did
all that for, was for my family. [scoffs]
1507
01:17:37,695 --> 01:17:38,696
[sighs]
1508
01:17:42,658 --> 01:17:43,659
I said...
1509
01:17:45,494 --> 01:17:49,331
There's so much in this world
that happens to us,
1510
01:17:49,415 --> 01:17:50,958
that's beyond our control.
1511
01:17:52,168 --> 01:17:54,295
And I reached out and I said...
1512
01:17:56,630 --> 01:18:00,593
"Whatever that is, I need you to help me."
1513
01:18:02,178 --> 01:18:03,304
And I prayed.
1514
01:18:04,096 --> 01:18:05,598
[sighs]
1515
01:18:05,681 --> 01:18:07,183
And I just asked for an opportunity.
1516
01:18:07,266 --> 01:18:11,312
I said, man, you know,
I'm gonna take a leap of faith,
1517
01:18:11,395 --> 01:18:16,609
and, uh, I'm gonna go to New York
'cause I wanna be close to my sons.
1518
01:18:17,610 --> 01:18:24,617
And, uh, I remember a week later,
I got a phone call from an agent.
1519
01:18:25,659 --> 01:18:29,622
It's the same agent that, uh,
Greg worked with.
1520
01:18:29,705 --> 01:18:34,251
He called me and said,
"Hey. Um, I saw your, uh...
1521
01:18:34,919 --> 01:18:39,715
I saw some photos of you, and, uh--
'Cause I had done a-- [chuckles]
1522
01:18:39,798 --> 01:18:42,509
The best way to help your self-esteem
after a break up
1523
01:18:42,593 --> 01:18:46,847
is to join like a personal site.
That was-- Back then, that was like,
1524
01:18:46,931 --> 01:18:49,391
you know, instant redemption,
you know, like I'm gonna show her.
1525
01:18:49,475 --> 01:18:54,063
They used it. Their personal's ad,
they used one of my photos to advertise.
1526
01:18:54,146 --> 01:18:58,359
And somebody had said,
"Hey, man, this guy's got a good look."
1527
01:18:58,442 --> 01:19:00,945
Random, completely random.
1528
01:19:01,028 --> 01:19:04,240
"And just come to New York,
just meet with me for a few hours,
1529
01:19:04,323 --> 01:19:06,200
and, uh, we'll discuss your future."
1530
01:19:06,283 --> 01:19:10,913
I didn't even know where she had lived,
and where the kids had lived.
1531
01:19:10,996 --> 01:19:15,334
She lived three miles away from him,
and so that was all I needed.
1532
01:19:15,417 --> 01:19:19,213
I got rid of all my stuff,
and I got everything in my car,
1533
01:19:19,296 --> 01:19:23,550
and I moved up there. And I lived there
in a house with eight guys. [chuckles]
1534
01:19:23,634 --> 01:19:28,222
You know, two to a room,
you know, and hustled.
1535
01:19:28,305 --> 01:19:32,142
And, uh, saw my kids, like I would
surprise 'em and go see 'em at school,
1536
01:19:32,226 --> 01:19:33,644
and they would be like, "Daddy!"
1537
01:19:33,727 --> 01:19:36,981
You know, and I would walk 'em home
because those are moments.
1538
01:19:37,898 --> 01:19:40,734
[Jeremy] He always instilled in me,
like, you have to be the best.
1539
01:19:40,818 --> 01:19:42,861
There wasn't second,
there is no second place.
1540
01:19:42,945 --> 01:19:46,532
Nothing less than your absolute best
is acceptable.
1541
01:19:46,615 --> 01:19:50,286
And, you know, that's something
that's stuck with me, and...
1542
01:19:54,415 --> 01:19:57,293
You know, um, he's hard on us,
really hard.
1543
01:19:57,376 --> 01:20:01,547
Really, really hard on us.
Me and my brother. And, um...
1544
01:20:08,887 --> 01:20:11,390
Being able to...
1545
01:20:11,473 --> 01:20:14,685
handle that [stammers] and, um...
1546
01:20:16,103 --> 01:20:17,813
That's what I'm looking for.
1547
01:20:17,896 --> 01:20:20,899
Being able to handle that,
and to channel that energy...
1548
01:20:22,026 --> 01:20:25,696
into something positive and not being
able to let that come down on you,
1549
01:20:25,779 --> 01:20:30,951
and let it ruin you is something that...
there's a very fine line between.
1550
01:20:33,829 --> 01:20:35,247
You know, my brother, um...
1551
01:20:39,543 --> 01:20:42,671
I don't even want to go into that,
to be honest.
1552
01:20:42,755 --> 01:20:44,423
It's a real touchy subject with that.
1553
01:20:46,300 --> 01:20:49,845
Kind of lost his way... after that.
1554
01:20:51,597 --> 01:20:55,267
He's better now, but... you know.
1555
01:20:56,852 --> 01:20:59,563
And it kind of comes down to, you know,
1556
01:20:59,646 --> 01:21:03,609
being able to handle what we went through
when we were younger,
1557
01:21:03,692 --> 01:21:06,862
the pressure and the fear of failing.
1558
01:21:06,945 --> 01:21:10,866
My junior and senior year,
important years for anybody,
1559
01:21:10,949 --> 01:21:14,870
you know, I was a star football player
in high school. You know, I've--
1560
01:21:14,953 --> 01:21:18,415
3.875 GPA, I was doing everything
I was supposed to be doing.
1561
01:21:18,499 --> 01:21:21,126
You know, it's tough because...
1562
01:21:21,210 --> 01:21:24,922
my family was distracted
by situations that were going on.
1563
01:21:26,131 --> 01:21:28,425
And I didn't really understand it
at the time.
1564
01:21:29,927 --> 01:21:33,639
I always knew I can go to the gym
and kind of get away from it.
1565
01:21:35,474 --> 01:21:39,603
[grunts]
1566
01:21:47,611 --> 01:21:49,446
[exhales]
1567
01:21:49,530 --> 01:21:51,156
I lived in the boys' home.
1568
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:53,617
My parents were drug addicts.
I was born a drug baby.
1569
01:21:53,700 --> 01:21:58,038
I had... a bunch of baggage.
Oh, man, I hurt inside.
1570
01:21:58,122 --> 01:21:59,581
I hurt everywhere I went.
1571
01:22:00,999 --> 01:22:02,793
And it turned into acting up in class.
1572
01:22:02,876 --> 01:22:07,506
It turned into creating more problems
all through high school, all through...
1573
01:22:07,589 --> 01:22:10,384
basically 'til I was 30. I carried it.
1574
01:22:10,467 --> 01:22:15,013
I felt like nobody... related.
I felt like nobody got how I felt.
1575
01:22:15,097 --> 01:22:17,724
Being a guy that kind of wears
everything on his sleeve,
1576
01:22:17,808 --> 01:22:20,519
what I had to do to prove
to everybody that I hurt.
1577
01:22:20,602 --> 01:22:25,524
Drink, fight, just totally mutilate
my life to prove to people that I cared.
1578
01:22:25,607 --> 01:22:30,154
Because I went from a drug-abusing,
needle-in-my-arm, total loser, bankrupt,
1579
01:22:30,237 --> 01:22:32,489
to a cover of a fitness magazine
within a year,
1580
01:22:32,573 --> 01:22:34,366
within a year of my very first step.
1581
01:22:34,450 --> 01:22:38,412
And not only did I have
to lose weight, and build muscle,
1582
01:22:38,495 --> 01:22:40,789
and figure it all out
from total ignorance,
1583
01:22:40,873 --> 01:22:42,833
but I had to do it with no money.
1584
01:22:42,916 --> 01:22:46,378
I had to do it with no job.
I kept going. I kept trying to earn it.
1585
01:22:46,462 --> 01:22:48,755
I wanted to get that respect,
that affirmation of,
1586
01:22:48,839 --> 01:22:51,091
"Kimmerle, you've done it,"
from those that I loved.
1587
01:22:51,175 --> 01:22:54,219
After not stopping
and proving that for half a year,
1588
01:22:54,303 --> 01:22:56,680
I could be the man I said I was gonna be,
1589
01:22:56,763 --> 01:22:59,016
and you're all tired
of waiting for me to be that guy.
1590
01:22:59,099 --> 01:23:02,436
Well, I'm him now, just-- Didn't notice?
1591
01:23:07,774 --> 01:23:10,986
I got lost, you know.
1592
01:23:13,363 --> 01:23:15,199
Suicide is...
1593
01:23:17,326 --> 01:23:18,827
a very selfish thing.
1594
01:23:20,287 --> 01:23:21,288
But...
1595
01:23:22,831 --> 01:23:24,625
when you reach that point,
1596
01:23:26,168 --> 01:23:28,879
you think it's the most
unselfish thing you can do
1597
01:23:28,962 --> 01:23:32,549
because you just want
the pain to stop. That's it.
1598
01:23:32,633 --> 01:23:37,930
All I would do is try to sleep
because it's the only time it would stop.
1599
01:23:38,013 --> 01:23:39,223
But you can't sleep forever.
1600
01:23:40,933 --> 01:23:45,270
And I grabbed two bottles
of my medication,
1601
01:23:46,897 --> 01:23:51,068
and I drank it with that fifth, and...
1602
01:23:52,486 --> 01:23:54,029
I thought that was gonna be it.
1603
01:23:56,031 --> 01:24:01,286
But it wasn't. I woke up...
three days later, still alive.
1604
01:24:02,663 --> 01:24:06,250
And after that, I remember...
1605
01:24:07,793 --> 01:24:09,503
driving.
1606
01:24:09,586 --> 01:24:12,047
It was the hardest thing
I've ever had to do.
1607
01:24:12,130 --> 01:24:13,131
[sighs]
1608
01:24:14,883 --> 01:24:17,636
I remember driving to my parent's house.
1609
01:24:17,719 --> 01:24:20,597
My dad is a barber, he was busy.
1610
01:24:21,682 --> 01:24:24,268
I busted in the barber shop.
1611
01:24:26,603 --> 01:24:30,148
And he knew something was wrong,
seriously wrong.
1612
01:24:30,232 --> 01:24:36,697
And I looked at him, and I said,
"Dad, I'm gonna kill myself. I need help.
1613
01:24:36,780 --> 01:24:39,074
I don't know why.
I don't know what to do."
1614
01:24:40,450 --> 01:24:42,494
[sighs]
1615
01:24:42,578 --> 01:24:48,750
And I saw my dad age 20 years
[stammers] in that five seconds.
1616
01:24:48,834 --> 01:24:51,378
[sobs] I saw it break him.
1617
01:24:53,589 --> 01:24:57,050
It's just so hard
to even think about, but...
1618
01:24:57,134 --> 01:25:01,722
He made some calls,
and within three hours, I was admitted.
1619
01:25:02,556 --> 01:25:05,767
It made me worse, by being in there.
1620
01:25:07,436 --> 01:25:10,480
And they pumped me
full of so many drugs,
1621
01:25:10,564 --> 01:25:12,733
that I was in bed for a year after that.
1622
01:25:15,152 --> 01:25:18,447
A full year.
It's the only time I ever stopped lifting.
1623
01:25:19,031 --> 01:25:21,491
I dropped down to 142 pounds.
1624
01:25:23,493 --> 01:25:26,496
And I was pretty hopeless at that point.
1625
01:25:26,580 --> 01:25:30,917
You're on all those medications,
you're not a person.
1626
01:25:31,001 --> 01:25:34,504
You are not there.
Matt was not there. I was empty.
1627
01:25:34,588 --> 01:25:36,423
I'd have friends come and visit me.
1628
01:25:38,342 --> 01:25:42,429
And I watched them get scared
because it wasn't me.
1629
01:25:42,512 --> 01:25:46,516
I had no personality,
I had no smile. It was gone.
1630
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:47,768
[sniffles]
1631
01:25:47,851 --> 01:25:49,561
It was like I was an empty vessel.
1632
01:25:49,645 --> 01:25:55,192
I just prayed and prayed and prayed
and prayed, everyday, everyday.
1633
01:25:56,485 --> 01:26:01,073
And one day, I woke up,
and I felt different. I felt different.
1634
01:26:02,032 --> 01:26:07,579
I got up... I actually ate something,
and I went to the gym.
1635
01:26:08,372 --> 01:26:10,040
It was the first place I went.
1636
01:26:10,123 --> 01:26:15,712
That was like the day that...
I broke through.
1637
01:26:16,630 --> 01:26:18,840
I really believe what has saved my life
1638
01:26:18,924 --> 01:26:24,054
has been the support of my family,
finding God, but fitness.
1639
01:26:24,137 --> 01:26:27,182
By far, the hardest thing
I ever had to do was look at myself.
1640
01:26:27,265 --> 01:26:28,600
[grunts]
1641
01:26:28,684 --> 01:26:30,519
And I had to forgive myself.
1642
01:26:32,562 --> 01:26:37,401
I had to forgive myself first,
learn to love myself.
1643
01:26:38,485 --> 01:26:41,196
It starts with yourself.
1644
01:26:41,279 --> 01:26:43,824
There's a certain amount of struggle
that has to be accepted.
1645
01:26:43,907 --> 01:26:45,242
You got to accept the struggle.
1646
01:26:45,325 --> 01:26:49,162
There's this threshold in life,
1647
01:26:49,246 --> 01:26:53,542
and where your mind's at,
your mind thinks the threshold's here.
1648
01:26:53,625 --> 01:26:56,586
And your body, and your destiny,
and your greatness is here.
1649
01:26:56,670 --> 01:27:00,132
'Cause it's not what you thought about,
and what you've done
1650
01:27:00,215 --> 01:27:02,259
that's gonna get you where you wanna go.
1651
01:27:02,342 --> 01:27:05,137
To get what you want,
you have to do what you've never done.
1652
01:27:07,347 --> 01:27:08,598
[Greg] I was sitting strong, man.
1653
01:27:08,682 --> 01:27:10,726
I bought a house well
over a million dollars.
1654
01:27:10,809 --> 01:27:12,769
I had, you know, 800,000
in the stock market.
1655
01:27:12,853 --> 01:27:14,521
I was on a couple TV shows.
1656
01:27:14,604 --> 01:27:16,481
Um, I was doing commercials,
everything else.
1657
01:27:16,565 --> 01:27:21,319
Within six months, I was dead broke,
400,000 in debt, both jobs were canceled,
1658
01:27:21,403 --> 01:27:24,448
and the bills were steep coming in.
There's a reality check real fast for you.
1659
01:27:24,531 --> 01:27:26,867
And it wasn't like I did
something to cause that.
1660
01:27:26,950 --> 01:27:28,827
That was just an evolution of the market,
1661
01:27:28,910 --> 01:27:33,832
the housing market and the recession
that we all went into.
1662
01:27:33,915 --> 01:27:37,586
Who are you there, you know?
It's real easy in the EKG of life.
1663
01:27:37,669 --> 01:27:40,046
It's kind of funny
that the heartbeat is that, right?
1664
01:27:40,130 --> 01:27:43,467
Because isn't that life itself?
And who are you at the top?
1665
01:27:43,550 --> 01:27:47,304
The character, who is that person?
How do you define yourself there?
1666
01:27:47,387 --> 01:27:50,599
And is that different than down here?
And if it is, something's seriously wrong,
1667
01:27:50,682 --> 01:27:53,477
'cause you can never
be defined by success.
1668
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:54,728
You must always define it.
1669
01:27:54,811 --> 01:27:57,606
And when you get success,
that person's hungry, hungry.
1670
01:27:57,689 --> 01:28:00,108
You ask that person,
"Hey, uh, what are you all about?"
1671
01:28:00,192 --> 01:28:03,445
I'm gonna be this, talking about future.
I'm gonna be this, I'm gonna be this.
1672
01:28:03,528 --> 01:28:06,072
Then you ask somebody
who has the success, the coin flips.
1673
01:28:06,156 --> 01:28:07,949
All of a sudden,
that success defines them.
1674
01:28:08,033 --> 01:28:09,743
"Oh, who are you? I did this."
1675
01:28:09,826 --> 01:28:11,161
Well... [scoffs]
1676
01:28:11,244 --> 01:28:16,291
There's a past tense there,
and if it's past tense, um, or it's idle,
1677
01:28:16,374 --> 01:28:19,044
it's not moving, man,
and you can't grow from that.
1678
01:28:19,127 --> 01:28:22,005
You always have
to reinvent the wheel, retry things.
1679
01:28:22,088 --> 01:28:25,592
And you can never be
a victim of the situation.
1680
01:28:25,675 --> 01:28:29,012
It always has to be--
It can never get too comfortable, man.
1681
01:28:29,095 --> 01:28:30,597
Those comfort zones
are really danger zones
1682
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:31,848
'cause you never try your true potential.
1683
01:28:31,932 --> 01:28:34,226
But, you know,
I had a big wake-up call, man.
1684
01:28:34,309 --> 01:28:36,353
All my friends left me, you know.
1685
01:28:36,436 --> 01:28:38,605
I thought they were friends, man.
Gone, man.
1686
01:28:38,688 --> 01:28:40,357
I started pointing my finger
at everybody, saying,
1687
01:28:40,440 --> 01:28:41,983
"That's crap. I can't believe that."
1688
01:28:42,067 --> 01:28:44,653
Three were pointing back at me.
I had to fix myself, man.
1689
01:28:44,736 --> 01:28:48,323
I rescued three dogs, man.
I was supporting my parents.
1690
01:28:48,406 --> 01:28:51,076
Everything was gonna go down.
Dogs would have to find a new place.
1691
01:28:51,159 --> 01:28:54,037
I didn't know what was gonna go down then.
I just knew that it wasn't an option.
1692
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:56,623
I started going--
You know Per Bernal, photographer?
1693
01:28:56,706 --> 01:28:58,208
I went to his house doing construction.
1694
01:28:58,291 --> 01:29:00,669
I was doing construction.
And I remember this girl came by,
1695
01:29:00,752 --> 01:29:03,505
we shot a few covers, um, and she came by,
1696
01:29:03,588 --> 01:29:05,632
she said, "Oh, Greg, cool.
I was hoping we shoot together."
1697
01:29:05,715 --> 01:29:07,801
I'm covered in shit, man, covered in shit.
1698
01:29:07,884 --> 01:29:09,219
She's like,
"Wait, we're not shooting together?"
1699
01:29:09,302 --> 01:29:10,470
I'm like, "No."
I said, "What are you doing?
1700
01:29:10,554 --> 01:29:12,305
I'm trying to keep my house, man."
1701
01:29:12,389 --> 01:29:14,975
You know, I couldn't go to auditions
and then a call back
1702
01:29:15,058 --> 01:29:16,893
and a call back,
and not getting paid anything.
1703
01:29:16,977 --> 01:29:20,313
And it wasn't fast enough.
I had-- These bills were coming in hard.
1704
01:29:20,397 --> 01:29:24,025
I make... 30K a month coming in,
I had to throw out, you know.
1705
01:29:24,109 --> 01:29:25,944
I had to grow up real fast, you know.
1706
01:29:26,027 --> 01:29:29,781
Your greatest hour as a human is usually
right after your worst hour of despair.
1707
01:29:29,865 --> 01:29:34,536
And that was a rebound effect for me.
And I look back at that as a blessing.
1708
01:29:34,619 --> 01:29:35,912
People like,
"Hey, what's your biggest failure?
1709
01:29:35,996 --> 01:29:38,832
What's your biggest failure?"
I go, "I don't know if I have one
1710
01:29:38,915 --> 01:29:40,374
because each of them
molded something in me
1711
01:29:40,458 --> 01:29:42,127
where I learned so much about myself.
1712
01:29:42,210 --> 01:29:46,047
If I were to pull that out of my life,
I don't know who I'd be right now."
1713
01:29:46,131 --> 01:29:48,550
And I never let failure stand as failure.
I just kept trying.
1714
01:29:48,633 --> 01:29:51,553
You know they say, "Failure's temporary,
giving up is permanent."
1715
01:29:51,636 --> 01:29:54,890
I'll be damned if at the end of my days,
I'm never gonna have any regrets.
1716
01:29:54,973 --> 01:29:57,851
It's interesting what Greg said,
you know. Every--
1717
01:29:57,934 --> 01:30:00,145
When you're in your darkest hours,
1718
01:30:00,228 --> 01:30:03,565
if you just hang in there,
and you fight through,
1719
01:30:03,648 --> 01:30:05,275
something good is gonna come out.
1720
01:30:07,527 --> 01:30:09,070
[birds chirping]
1721
01:30:11,281 --> 01:30:14,701
I love competing, but competing
isn't just a job on its own, you know?
1722
01:30:14,784 --> 01:30:16,494
We gotta do other things to be successful.
1723
01:30:16,578 --> 01:30:19,164
You cant-- You're not gonna
be successful just competing.
1724
01:30:19,247 --> 01:30:20,290
You know, it's...
1725
01:30:20,373 --> 01:30:24,418
other things that you have to get involved
in the industry to make money.
1726
01:30:24,502 --> 01:30:28,340
So guys like me, looking to get
a small chunk of money from these guys,
1727
01:30:28,422 --> 01:30:31,134
and be in the magazine
and competing with, not only celebrities,
1728
01:30:31,217 --> 01:30:35,513
but the other six-packs
that are amazing walking around, is hard.
1729
01:30:35,597 --> 01:30:37,974
So [stammers] I've really upped my game
1730
01:30:38,058 --> 01:30:40,185
and made sure that I'm at my potential,
and if--
1731
01:30:40,268 --> 01:30:42,436
You know what? If that's not
good enough, fine, I understand.
1732
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:44,814
If I'm not the right look,
the right color,
1733
01:30:44,898 --> 01:30:48,401
the right ethnicity, the right anything,
the right height, that's fine with me.
1734
01:30:48,485 --> 01:30:51,154
But I don't wanna be turned down...
1735
01:30:52,322 --> 01:30:54,491
after not showing my best.
1736
01:30:54,574 --> 01:30:56,910
In our business, we're building a body.
1737
01:30:56,993 --> 01:30:58,995
Then if you wanna get smart
and be successful,
1738
01:30:59,079 --> 01:31:01,665
you gotta have a business plan,
you gotta have a marketing scheme,
1739
01:31:01,748 --> 01:31:04,167
you gotta know how to deliver
that product to the consumer.
1740
01:31:04,250 --> 01:31:06,711
And that's what it's all about,
and I think that's what--
1741
01:31:06,795 --> 01:31:08,630
That's why I think
TJ's been really successful.
1742
01:31:08,713 --> 01:31:10,757
Dave, you've been successful,
and a lot of other guys,
1743
01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:14,970
is that they can take-- They understand
that their body is just a product.
1744
01:31:15,053 --> 01:31:16,930
You know, it's nothing more than that.
1745
01:31:17,013 --> 01:31:20,141
You build a product,
and then you sell that product
1746
01:31:20,225 --> 01:31:22,602
on how you get the product,
the motivation behind the product,
1747
01:31:22,686 --> 01:31:23,853
how to maintain the product.
1748
01:31:23,937 --> 01:31:27,148
I did a great spread in a magazine
and they told me,
1749
01:31:27,232 --> 01:31:29,317
"Kimmerle, you're gonna have the cover."
1750
01:31:29,401 --> 01:31:31,987
And I'm waiting for this thing
to come out. I'm all excited.
1751
01:31:32,070 --> 01:31:33,071
And who's on the cover?
1752
01:31:33,154 --> 01:31:37,075
TJ. And I'm trying to explain
to somebody why that happened.
1753
01:31:37,158 --> 01:31:38,868
-[stammers] And...
-That was very subjective.
1754
01:31:38,952 --> 01:31:41,579
-Yeah, you know, so there's a competition.
-[all chuckle]
1755
01:31:41,663 --> 01:31:44,749
-That's your competitor.
- He's a smooth approach, TJ.
1756
01:31:44,833 --> 01:31:46,793
A competitor... [chuckles]
He moved right in.
1757
01:31:46,876 --> 01:31:49,503
A competitor can go and talk
to the judges and you're supposed to.
1758
01:31:49,587 --> 01:31:51,798
Why did I win? Why did I lose?
What's my edification?
1759
01:31:51,881 --> 01:31:54,342
How do I get better? What do I fix?
1760
01:31:54,426 --> 01:31:58,680
And as a talent or a model,
sometimes you don't get that.
1761
01:31:58,763 --> 01:32:00,932
And you just get the,
"You didn't get the cover."
1762
01:32:01,016 --> 01:32:02,308
You know, they don't even tell you.
1763
01:32:02,392 --> 01:32:05,228
Subjectively, you have to look
at the guy on the cover and go why.
1764
01:32:05,311 --> 01:32:07,063
Why does Greg Plitt get so many covers?
1765
01:32:07,147 --> 01:32:08,356
Let me ask you this, Matt,
1766
01:32:08,440 --> 01:32:11,026
and you tell me what you think
or anyone here, competitors.
1767
01:32:11,109 --> 01:32:13,153
SoLet's say you're all dialed in,
and you trained really hard,
1768
01:32:13,236 --> 01:32:14,446
and you're really cut up, right?
1769
01:32:14,528 --> 01:32:18,450
And you go to a shoot. And you know
the world's gonna see this cover, right?
1770
01:32:18,532 --> 01:32:21,619
And the photographer says, "Hey, man,
I want you to go soft. Don't flex."
1771
01:32:21,703 --> 01:32:23,121
So they want to take a picture,
1772
01:32:23,204 --> 01:32:25,248
show the world
that's not your best in your mind.
1773
01:32:25,957 --> 01:32:28,084
Are you cool with that?
Or are you all ego?
1774
01:32:28,168 --> 01:32:30,211
"It's gotta be like this,
gotta be like this."
1775
01:32:30,295 --> 01:32:32,505
Because if you wanna be successful,
you got to be marketable.
1776
01:32:32,589 --> 01:32:35,842
You have to have crossover. You got to be
adjust up and down, five, six pounds.
1777
01:32:35,925 --> 01:32:39,262
It can't all be about how cut you are
because, you know,
1778
01:32:39,345 --> 01:32:41,181
the population at large
is trying to buy this
1779
01:32:41,264 --> 01:32:42,390
for inspiration and motivation.
1780
01:32:42,474 --> 01:32:45,143
If you're really dialed in,
the majority of the public's like,
1781
01:32:45,226 --> 01:32:47,062
"Oh, he got some help with that",
you know.
1782
01:32:47,145 --> 01:32:50,190
He's like, "Hey, I respect the work ethic,
but I don't wanna go that route."
1783
01:32:50,273 --> 01:32:51,483
It's what they're thinking, maybe.
1784
01:32:51,565 --> 01:32:54,611
You get a person in there that's kind
of somewhat in shape, whatever else,
1785
01:32:54,694 --> 01:32:57,947
the majority of the people looking go,
"Man, you know what, I respect that guy."
1786
01:32:58,031 --> 01:33:00,909
The hard work, the right diet,
it's achievable, you know?
1787
01:33:00,992 --> 01:33:02,285
So it motivates them.
1788
01:33:02,368 --> 01:33:04,954
Otherwise, if it's too cut up,
maybe it's unattainable.
1789
01:33:05,038 --> 01:33:06,706
And it's kinda deters that motivation,
1790
01:33:06,790 --> 01:33:09,375
so, you know, there's a lot
that goes into fitness modeling
1791
01:33:09,459 --> 01:33:11,461
that's outside the box of the physique.
1792
01:33:11,544 --> 01:33:16,132
It's the motivation, um,
and the mentality around the gym,
1793
01:33:16,216 --> 01:33:19,260
because we're trying to build
a lifestyle. We're not trying to build,
1794
01:33:19,344 --> 01:33:21,721
"Hey, you're gonna be in shape
three times a year, and that's it."
1795
01:33:21,805 --> 01:33:24,682
No, we're trying to build the, "Hey,
being in shape is better, it's healthier."
1796
01:33:24,766 --> 01:33:26,768
It's not all about the vanity,
but also about,
1797
01:33:26,851 --> 01:33:28,353
you know, the longevity, right?
1798
01:33:28,436 --> 01:33:31,022
And so, to anyone out here
that is thinking that
1799
01:33:31,106 --> 01:33:34,526
they're gonna do this
and get rich once they get on a cover
1800
01:33:34,608 --> 01:33:37,946
or hit the stage, it's not that way.
1801
01:33:38,029 --> 01:33:39,781
Most guys, you know, they run a deficit
1802
01:33:39,864 --> 01:33:44,327
just trying to compete
because it's expensive to compete.
1803
01:33:44,410 --> 01:33:46,788
-To eat right is expensive.
-[Dennis] Yeah.
1804
01:33:46,871 --> 01:33:50,250
If you don't have a supplement sponsor
to pay for supplements every month,
1805
01:33:50,333 --> 01:33:51,543
it's expensive.
1806
01:33:51,625 --> 01:33:53,294
And when you say the paycheck,
1807
01:33:53,378 --> 01:33:55,672
I've never invoiced a magazine
for a cover.
1808
01:33:55,755 --> 01:33:59,425
I don't think I've ever gotten paid.
Where I've gotten paid is the networking.
1809
01:33:59,509 --> 01:34:01,302
You know, you're building relationships
with people.
1810
01:34:01,386 --> 01:34:03,346
And so yeah, you don't get the shape--
1811
01:34:03,429 --> 01:34:05,306
You're talking publicity with the covers.
1812
01:34:05,390 --> 01:34:06,891
[Greg] Yeah, that's all it really is, man.
1813
01:34:06,975 --> 01:34:09,477
See, the public sees
your cover next to GQ,
1814
01:34:09,561 --> 01:34:11,187
who's a big movie star, right?
1815
01:34:11,271 --> 01:34:14,065
And so they have this assimilation
that, you know, you've made it.
1816
01:34:14,149 --> 01:34:17,277
I wish that was the case, man.
I wish that was the case.
1817
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:18,570
What comes after the cover?
1818
01:34:18,652 --> 01:34:21,614
What comes after the 50th,
the 100th, the 1,000th cover?
1819
01:34:21,698 --> 01:34:25,368
Um, I can give you a million examples,
but what happens after a contest?
1820
01:34:25,451 --> 01:34:28,163
You know, how many plastic trophies
is gonna make you feel good?
1821
01:34:28,246 --> 01:34:31,040
I mean, where's the money?
Where's that start?
1822
01:34:31,124 --> 01:34:33,751
Or is it about the money?
Or is it about something else?
1823
01:34:33,835 --> 01:34:36,629
At the end of the day, what's it about?
Say what's your driving force?
1824
01:34:36,713 --> 01:34:39,841
It can't just be about you winning.
There's gotta be some higher point.
1825
01:34:39,924 --> 01:34:43,803
Like a gym can't be about the ends.
The gym has to be the means to some ends.
1826
01:34:43,887 --> 01:34:47,765
Get into this for you.
Get into this for the love of the sport,
1827
01:34:47,849 --> 01:34:50,435
for training hard,
for inspiring others, 'cause to me,
1828
01:34:50,518 --> 01:34:52,395
and I'm sure everyone up here
will say the same thing,
1829
01:34:52,478 --> 01:34:55,231
there's no greater payday...
1830
01:34:55,315 --> 01:34:58,610
than actually affecting
someone's life for the positive
1831
01:34:58,692 --> 01:35:02,197
because the way that makes you feel,
it's all about helping other people.
1832
01:35:07,744 --> 01:35:09,245
-What's up, guys? How you doing, man?
-[man] Sup.
1833
01:35:09,329 --> 01:35:11,789
[speaks indistinctly]
1834
01:35:11,873 --> 01:35:13,458
-What's up, Matt?
-How ya doing, man?
1835
01:35:13,541 --> 01:35:15,709
What's up, bro?
Mind if I get a picture with you?
1836
01:35:15,793 --> 01:35:18,087
-Looking good, man. Looking large, man.
-Gotta eat, bro.
1837
01:35:21,966 --> 01:35:25,011
You don't wanna do it too often.
You got to let the muscle heal.
1838
01:35:25,094 --> 01:35:28,431
So then you can tear it again,
let it recover and then, go back at it.
1839
01:35:28,514 --> 01:35:30,892
-There you go, man.
-Thanks for setting the standards, man.
1840
01:35:30,975 --> 01:35:32,227
-Thank you.
-[chuckles] You got it, brother.
1841
01:35:32,310 --> 01:35:34,020
[both laugh]
1842
01:35:34,103 --> 01:35:35,605
Hey, I love this corner.
1843
01:35:35,688 --> 01:35:37,523
Okay, we have our caramel sea salt,
1844
01:35:37,607 --> 01:35:39,733
and then we have
our strawberries and cream.
1845
01:35:41,653 --> 01:35:42,654
Thank you.
1846
01:35:43,529 --> 01:35:46,282
[people chattering indistinctly]
1847
01:35:51,663 --> 01:35:52,664
Keep it up.
1848
01:35:52,746 --> 01:35:54,748
[announcer] That's, uh, 2013's
hottest new covers...
1849
01:35:54,832 --> 01:35:57,252
...dipping!
1850
01:36:01,130 --> 01:36:02,382
[chuckles]
1851
01:36:02,465 --> 01:36:05,843
You got it?
Not bad for a 60 year old, right?
1852
01:36:05,927 --> 01:36:07,136
[both chuckle]
1853
01:36:07,220 --> 01:36:09,222
[chuckle] Shadowed up.
1854
01:36:13,309 --> 01:36:15,687
-I'm too old to go back to school.
-You got this.
1855
01:36:15,769 --> 01:36:18,189
-I'm so not cool. Oh, my God.
-Get your doctorate, man.
1856
01:36:18,273 --> 01:36:19,857
What you're putting
in your body, not only,
1857
01:36:19,941 --> 01:36:22,944
you know, from the macro-nutrient
protein, fats and carbs...
1858
01:36:23,027 --> 01:36:26,531
It's about trying to come in
with a small waist,
1859
01:36:26,614 --> 01:36:30,034
and a really, really,
really balanced physique.
1860
01:36:30,118 --> 01:36:32,412
Shooting with the right photographers,
1861
01:36:32,495 --> 01:36:34,914
uh, you know, building up
the social media platform...
1862
01:36:42,630 --> 01:36:44,257
[people chattering indistinctly]
1863
01:36:49,762 --> 01:36:51,097
[chuckles]
1864
01:36:55,059 --> 01:36:56,269
[man] One more.
1865
01:37:01,274 --> 01:37:02,984
[Matt] It's never let me down.
1866
01:37:03,067 --> 01:37:05,236
It's never abandoned me.
It's never cheated on me.
1867
01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:06,529
It's never lied to me.
1868
01:37:06,612 --> 01:37:09,073
A hundred pounds
is a hundred pounds, you know.
1869
01:37:09,157 --> 01:37:14,704
It's always been there for me.
It's just... you got to put in the work.
1870
01:37:14,787 --> 01:37:19,250
And we all... maybe start
for different reasons.
1871
01:37:19,334 --> 01:37:21,753
But you're only gonna continue
if it's for you,
1872
01:37:21,835 --> 01:37:25,048
and it's for a positive reason,
it's for the right reasons.
1873
01:37:25,131 --> 01:37:27,841
There needs to be a sense
of emotional turmoil.
1874
01:37:27,925 --> 01:37:33,222
You need to be so sick of being, you know,
having the same physique, you know?
1875
01:37:33,306 --> 01:37:35,266
If you want to look like somebody, do it.
1876
01:37:35,350 --> 01:37:38,186
You gotta be so sick of yourself
to be like, "Listen, I don't care.
1877
01:37:38,269 --> 01:37:40,646
I'm goin' to gym for two hours
every single day
1878
01:37:40,730 --> 01:37:43,024
for the next month,
and I'm gonna see my results."
1879
01:37:43,107 --> 01:37:46,069
This is about authentic, about new,
1880
01:37:46,152 --> 01:37:49,113
about transforming,
and that's a strange brave world.
1881
01:37:49,197 --> 01:37:50,615
You gotta be a pioneer.
1882
01:37:50,698 --> 01:37:54,243
Your body is a gift.
Connect to it, use it, experience it.
1883
01:37:54,327 --> 01:37:55,828
It's authentic. It's real.
1884
01:37:55,912 --> 01:37:58,998
You have a fingerprint that separates you
from everybody else in the world.
1885
01:37:59,082 --> 01:38:01,875
Because 99 percent of the world's average,
but they don't look like that.
1886
01:38:01,959 --> 01:38:05,338
What makes you get up in the morning
to make this commitment?
1887
01:38:05,421 --> 01:38:08,800
Because, every other week or something,
the world's gonna see us.
1888
01:38:08,882 --> 01:38:10,927
And as you climb the ladder,
everybody hates you.
1889
01:38:11,010 --> 01:38:13,012
Everybody's waiting
for your trip and fall.
1890
01:38:13,096 --> 01:38:14,680
You know, with success,
many will love you.
1891
01:38:14,764 --> 01:38:18,142
The majority will hate you
because your success is like a spotlight
1892
01:38:18,226 --> 01:38:19,893
shining down on their missed opportunity.
1893
01:38:19,977 --> 01:38:22,313
[stammers]
I've beaten the best in the world
1894
01:38:22,397 --> 01:38:25,400
and... I'm still not satisfied.
1895
01:38:25,483 --> 01:38:29,570
Even with Olympia this year,
I'm very proud of what I've accomplished,
1896
01:38:29,654 --> 01:38:31,406
but it's just the beginning.
1897
01:38:31,489 --> 01:38:34,826
You think I'm gonna sit down
and be happy about winning?
1898
01:38:34,908 --> 01:38:37,787
No way. I'm back in the gym,
I'm back on the grind,
1899
01:38:37,870 --> 01:38:40,873
'cause I gotta outwork
every single person coming after me.
1900
01:38:40,957 --> 01:38:43,418
Sadik and I didn't even say
a dang word to each other,
1901
01:38:43,501 --> 01:38:45,753
even at check-ins or backstage, nothing,
1902
01:38:45,837 --> 01:38:48,631
'cause I knew he was my number one
competition going into that show.
1903
01:38:48,714 --> 01:38:50,800
The one person I was worried about
was Sadik.
1904
01:38:50,883 --> 01:38:53,927
If anybody, other than myself,
would get the title, it'd be him.
1905
01:38:54,011 --> 01:38:56,180
And I'm gonna do everything I can
to stay on top,
1906
01:38:56,264 --> 01:38:57,974
I'm gonna do everything
to keep Sadik at second.
1907
01:38:58,057 --> 01:39:00,226
I don't ever go into a show
and not think I'm gonna win.
1908
01:39:00,309 --> 01:39:04,063
But there's no reason
why the man standing next to me
1909
01:39:04,147 --> 01:39:07,108
should be any better than me. No reason.
1910
01:39:07,191 --> 01:39:08,942
I have a target on me.
1911
01:39:09,026 --> 01:39:11,863
Every single person in the IFBB that
competes in the Men's Physique division
1912
01:39:11,945 --> 01:39:13,281
is coming after me.
1913
01:39:13,364 --> 01:39:15,867
There is no off-season.
I call that unemployment.
1914
01:39:15,949 --> 01:39:18,619
Um, and I can't tell you
how many covers I've stolen,
1915
01:39:18,703 --> 01:39:20,037
um, when photographers have called me up,
1916
01:39:20,121 --> 01:39:21,789
and they'd be like,
"Hey, Greg, um, what's my call,
1917
01:39:21,873 --> 01:39:24,375
couldn't make the flight or came in
out of shape, whatever else,
1918
01:39:24,459 --> 01:39:25,918
what are you doing in an hour?"
1919
01:39:26,002 --> 01:39:28,796
[Evan Olson's "All the Way" playing]
1920
01:39:38,431 --> 01:39:41,225
♪ My skin is pure
And my mind is green ♪
1921
01:39:41,309 --> 01:39:44,437
♪ But my heart is built
Just like a guillotine ♪
1922
01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:47,899
♪ And all the world's
Gonna feel my sting ♪
1923
01:39:47,981 --> 01:39:51,319
♪ Gonna set my sights right
On the brass ring ♪
1924
01:39:51,402 --> 01:39:54,864
♪ All the doors are opened up for me ♪
1925
01:39:54,947 --> 01:39:58,326
♪ If you don't believe it
Wait and see ♪
1926
01:39:58,409 --> 01:40:01,662
♪ I'm gonna go all the way this time ♪
1927
01:40:01,746 --> 01:40:04,916
♪ I'm gonna show everyone what's mine ♪
1928
01:40:04,998 --> 01:40:08,044
♪ I'm leaving with everything I know ♪
1929
01:40:08,127 --> 01:40:12,131
♪ Anybody wanna come along, let's go ♪
1930
01:40:17,428 --> 01:40:20,056
♪ My mood is right
For the brand new way ♪
1931
01:40:20,139 --> 01:40:23,768
♪ Gonna live this life
Like it's the last day ♪
1932
01:40:23,851 --> 01:40:26,729
♪ And holding back
Never crossed my mind ♪
1933
01:40:26,812 --> 01:40:30,858
♪ Gonna say goodbye
This is the last time ♪
1934
01:40:30,942 --> 01:40:34,529
♪ I can feel it burning deep inside ♪
1935
01:40:34,612 --> 01:40:37,406
♪ I can see my future open wide ♪
1936
01:40:37,490 --> 01:40:40,660
♪ I'm gonna go all the way this time ♪
1937
01:40:40,743 --> 01:40:43,871
♪ I'm gonna show everyone what's mine ♪
1938
01:40:43,955 --> 01:40:47,083
♪ I'm leaving with everything I know ♪
1939
01:40:47,166 --> 01:40:50,336
♪ Anybody wanna come along, let's go ♪
1940
01:40:50,419 --> 01:40:53,381
♪ I'm gonna all the way this time ♪
1941
01:40:53,464 --> 01:40:56,551
♪ I'm gonna show everyone what's mine ♪
1942
01:40:56,634 --> 01:40:59,887
♪ I'm leaving with everything I know ♪
1943
01:40:59,971 --> 01:41:03,056
♪ Anybody, anybody ♪
1944
01:41:03,140 --> 01:41:08,646
♪ I've put this on before
But I wont fail again ♪
1945
01:41:09,438 --> 01:41:15,278
♪ There's only one thing left for me
And I will win ♪
1946
01:41:15,361 --> 01:41:17,029
♪ I will win ♪
1947
01:41:29,250 --> 01:41:32,211
♪ This could be
The last chance I have left ♪
1948
01:41:32,295 --> 01:41:35,590
♪ Nobody wants it more than me ♪
1949
01:41:41,846 --> 01:41:46,851
[TJ] So many people out there fail,
not because they don't have the ability.
1950
01:41:46,934 --> 01:41:51,230
It's because they don't have the heart
to go through adversity.
1951
01:41:51,314 --> 01:41:52,648
[grunting]
1952
01:41:52,732 --> 01:41:57,778
Your life is not about making money,
it's not about having the titles,
1953
01:41:57,862 --> 01:42:02,908
it's not about having the hot trophy wife,
your life is about a moment to come.
1954
01:42:02,992 --> 01:42:06,245
It's inevitable.
We cannot stop it from coming.
1955
01:42:06,329 --> 01:42:08,623
Right now,
we have the most valuable asset
1956
01:42:08,706 --> 01:42:13,210
on earth on our side, time.
But it's running out.
1957
01:42:13,294 --> 01:42:17,715
And to make that first step
towards greatness is the hardest step.
1958
01:42:17,798 --> 01:42:21,677
There is so much power in failure
because you learn so much from it.
1959
01:42:21,761 --> 01:42:25,014
If you don't like where you are right now,
turn around and look at what you've done.
1960
01:42:25,097 --> 01:42:27,099
You've built every single step
to create this,
1961
01:42:27,183 --> 01:42:28,893
just taken the easy road too many times,
1962
01:42:28,976 --> 01:42:31,520
not getting up,
not going for that extra rep,
1963
01:42:31,604 --> 01:42:34,899
puttin' that extra mile in,
the little inches of life
1964
01:42:34,982 --> 01:42:37,568
that add up
to be first place or forgotten.
1965
01:42:37,652 --> 01:42:39,403
You can't fake strong. [grunts]
1966
01:42:39,487 --> 01:42:43,282
Let's do this! Yeah, come on!
How much more you got?
1967
01:42:43,366 --> 01:42:45,451
This is why you're the champ.
Come on. Show 'em why you're the champ.
1968
01:42:45,534 --> 01:42:46,869
[grunts]
1969
01:42:46,952 --> 01:42:49,288
[David] The willpower, the belief,
the confidence,
1970
01:42:49,372 --> 01:42:51,957
and just like you go to the gym
and you lift your muscles, right?
1971
01:42:52,041 --> 01:42:54,835
You have to exhaust them
to grow 'em. Use it or lose it.
1972
01:42:54,919 --> 01:42:58,005
Your confidence must be the same way.
It must be tested.
1973
01:42:58,089 --> 01:43:00,216
Safety, comfort zones are dead zones.
1974
01:43:00,299 --> 01:43:02,468
Because your true potential
will never be matched.
1975
01:43:03,219 --> 01:43:05,680
You know what struggle is.
You know what adversity is.
1976
01:43:05,763 --> 01:43:08,891
We know what failure is.
No, you have to build that.
1977
01:43:08,974 --> 01:43:11,727
The perseverance! To see it through!
1978
01:43:11,811 --> 01:43:15,231
The never-say-die attitude.
The difference between a champion
1979
01:43:15,314 --> 01:43:18,943
and someone's who's forgotten,
is that a champion shows up.
1980
01:43:19,026 --> 01:43:20,403
Come on!
1981
01:43:22,655 --> 01:43:25,282
Don't tell me that what you do
and who you are doesn't matter.
1982
01:43:25,366 --> 01:43:27,868
You were born an original.
Don't die a copy.
1983
01:43:50,141 --> 01:43:53,018
[Thomas Tha Franchise's
"Grindin' playing]
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