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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:03,003 --> 00:00:05,964 (sewing machine sounds) 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,099 (music) 5 00:01:45,022 --> 00:01:46,898 - My name's Matt, I'm a Brand Manager 6 00:01:47,274 --> 00:01:48,400 at a backpacking company. 7 00:01:48,859 --> 00:01:51,194 In my job I interact with a lot of customers. 8 00:01:51,528 --> 00:01:54,031 And I find out about a lot of interesting 9 00:01:54,489 --> 00:01:56,450 and unique trails all across the world. 10 00:01:56,742 --> 00:01:59,161 The Uinta High line Trail really stood out 11 00:01:59,453 --> 00:02:03,081 because it seemed to be such a uncommon trail. 12 00:02:03,373 --> 00:02:05,459 - It's really remote, it's really high. 13 00:02:05,751 --> 00:02:07,753 Most of the trail's above 10,000 feet. 14 00:02:08,045 --> 00:02:09,755 I think it's just kind of a hidden gem. 15 00:02:10,047 --> 00:02:11,882 - Just from the little research that I did. 16 00:02:12,174 --> 00:02:15,093 And the pictures that I saw, I knew that this hike 17 00:02:15,385 --> 00:02:17,012 was gonna be something spectacular. 18 00:02:17,304 --> 00:02:18,555 - I didn't know really a whole lot 19 00:02:18,847 --> 00:02:20,390 about Utah to be honest with you. 20 00:02:20,682 --> 00:02:22,142 I wasn't expecting very much. 21 00:02:22,476 --> 00:02:26,021 - I expect to be uncomfortable and in pain. 22 00:02:30,901 --> 00:02:32,527 - Logistically when you try to get a lot of people 23 00:02:32,819 --> 00:02:36,823 in one spot at the same time, usually something goes wrong. 24 00:02:37,115 --> 00:02:39,284 And this time Steve's journey 25 00:02:39,576 --> 00:02:41,286 really became a comedy of errors. 26 00:02:41,578 --> 00:02:45,457 - Matt, Will and myself we flew on one plane and then Benny 27 00:02:45,749 --> 00:02:49,002 had come in a day earlier and Steve was coming from Raleigh, 28 00:02:49,294 --> 00:02:52,130 North Carolina and his flight didn't make it. 29 00:02:52,422 --> 00:02:54,883 He was late, he missed his connection in Denver. 30 00:02:55,217 --> 00:02:57,052 He stuck there, he had to change airlines. 31 00:02:57,386 --> 00:03:00,222 Thank goodness he did arrive there a few hours late, 32 00:03:00,555 --> 00:03:01,139 but we were worried. 33 00:03:01,431 --> 00:03:02,724 We didn't know if he was gonna be able 34 00:03:03,058 --> 00:03:04,476 to even come with us on the hike or not. 35 00:03:04,810 --> 00:03:07,729 So it was great that he he got there. 36 00:03:08,021 --> 00:03:09,648 It wouldn't have been the same without Steve. 37 00:03:09,940 --> 00:03:13,360 - These guys, I don't know why I like them, I really don't. 38 00:03:13,652 --> 00:03:16,738 So I'm gonna be late going into Salt Lake City. 39 00:03:17,114 --> 00:03:19,866 I have no time to go to a store to buy food. 40 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,244 And I'm asking them to buy food for me 41 00:03:22,577 --> 00:03:24,079 and they're like, no, I don't have room. 42 00:03:24,413 --> 00:03:26,081 I don't have time, I can't do it. 43 00:03:26,373 --> 00:03:28,667 You're gonna have to starve to death on the site. 44 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,585 Well, finally, Will Wood 45 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:36,007 My Savior, went out and bought me a bunch of food 46 00:03:36,633 --> 00:03:40,220 and I had plenty to eat on the trail. 47 00:03:40,512 --> 00:03:43,348 - Fortunately, our shuttle driver was so gracious. 48 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,642 He was able to just wait on Steve 49 00:03:45,934 --> 00:03:50,439 and that made that a less stressful event. 50 00:03:53,692 --> 00:03:55,527 - So basically I'm a Star Wars nerd, 51 00:03:55,819 --> 00:03:57,070 especially with the original trilogy. 52 00:03:57,362 --> 00:04:00,824 So you've got, Boba Fett, Mandalorian, 53 00:04:01,116 --> 00:04:05,245 Imperial Destroyer, Slave I, TIE Fighter. 54 00:04:05,537 --> 00:04:08,915 So I have like, a lot of Star Wars stuff. 55 00:04:09,207 --> 00:04:11,251 And because of those tattoos, we could never get 56 00:04:11,543 --> 00:04:15,839 a ride hitch hiking into town, we had to walk the whole way. 57 00:04:16,131 --> 00:04:18,467 (upbeat music) 58 00:04:18,759 --> 00:04:21,011 - From Salt Lake City, it was about a four 59 00:04:21,303 --> 00:04:21,970 to five hour drive. 60 00:04:22,262 --> 00:04:23,722 It was so cool because you instantly 61 00:04:24,014 --> 00:04:24,723 just start to ascend into the mountains. 62 00:04:26,183 --> 00:04:29,352 And then you go around the mountain range. 63 00:04:29,644 --> 00:04:31,021 So we went through the desert. 64 00:04:34,065 --> 00:04:35,817 And all we were doing there was climbing, 65 00:04:36,443 --> 00:04:39,279 just to see the way the landscape looked 66 00:04:39,571 --> 00:04:42,324 as we were approaching the trail, it was unexpected. 67 00:04:42,616 --> 00:04:44,284 By the time we arrived at the trail head, 68 00:04:44,576 --> 00:04:48,663 we were already right around 8000 feet or so in elevation. 69 00:04:53,001 --> 00:04:56,379 We knew at that point just seeing what it looked like, 70 00:04:56,671 --> 00:04:58,465 we were in for an incredible hike. 71 00:05:01,301 --> 00:05:03,220 - The mountains and the forest looked beautiful. 72 00:05:03,512 --> 00:05:05,305 And we all just camped right there. 73 00:05:05,597 --> 00:05:06,264 We're really just amped 74 00:05:06,556 --> 00:05:07,849 to be starting this journey together. 75 00:05:08,141 --> 00:05:10,310 - Well look at that spot right there, nice and flat. 76 00:05:10,602 --> 00:05:12,521 I think I'm gonna put my tent right there. 77 00:05:13,438 --> 00:05:14,356 - Right by the road? 78 00:05:14,940 --> 00:05:15,982 - Right by the road. 79 00:05:16,316 --> 00:05:16,733 - Are crazy? 80 00:05:17,025 --> 00:05:18,568 - That when the car is coming, you can wonder 81 00:05:18,860 --> 00:05:19,736 if it's gonna run you over or not. 82 00:05:20,028 --> 00:05:20,862 (laughing) 83 00:05:21,154 --> 00:05:22,280 It'll add that little bit 84 00:05:22,572 --> 00:05:23,323 of excitement to your night. 85 00:05:23,615 --> 00:05:24,741 - Matt you found something good back there? 86 00:05:25,033 --> 00:05:27,744 -Yeah, but it's, he's gonna say it's good. 87 00:05:28,036 --> 00:05:28,995 He doesn't wanna walk back so... 88 00:05:29,287 --> 00:05:32,290 What he says has no relevance to what's actually up there. 89 00:05:32,582 --> 00:05:35,168 That's what we've learned on past hikes. 90 00:05:37,671 --> 00:05:39,422 - Okay, I'm gonna go see what I can find. 91 00:05:40,924 --> 00:05:43,134 (upbeat music) 92 00:05:45,679 --> 00:05:47,305 - I feel the elevation. 93 00:05:49,266 --> 00:05:51,309 Just from setting this up, I can feel it a little bit 94 00:05:51,601 --> 00:05:52,477 it's a little harder to breathe. 95 00:05:52,894 --> 00:05:55,897 - Actually I see a trail looks like a wildlife trail that 96 00:05:56,189 --> 00:06:00,360 goes between our sites and some spots where elk have been 97 00:06:00,652 --> 00:06:04,656 doing their business, there's a chance that they'll come up 98 00:06:04,948 --> 00:06:08,326 through our camp tonight and that'd be cool. 99 00:06:08,702 --> 00:06:09,786 - Can't wait to see some moose. 100 00:06:11,246 --> 00:06:12,539 - Lets change that...You hear that? 101 00:06:15,125 --> 00:06:15,792 -What is that? 102 00:06:16,167 --> 00:06:17,252 - Matt said it was an elk. 103 00:06:23,842 --> 00:06:26,386 - What time do you think sun rise is? 104 00:06:26,678 --> 00:06:28,388 - Let's say, somewhere between 5:00am 105 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,391 and 6:30am would be a guess. 106 00:06:31,683 --> 00:06:36,104 But either way, I mean, if thunderstorms are always 107 00:06:36,396 --> 00:06:37,397 gonna be a threat in the afternoon 108 00:06:37,689 --> 00:06:39,649 getting an early start is not a bad idea. 109 00:06:39,941 --> 00:06:41,151 - If we get going at like six in the morning 110 00:06:41,443 --> 00:06:43,403 we're gonna be done at 12 or one o'clock. 111 00:06:43,695 --> 00:06:45,447 - Well if we get started at 10am, and then we hike 112 00:06:45,739 --> 00:06:47,741 through a hailstorm every day at 2:00pm 113 00:06:48,158 --> 00:06:50,118 that would also not be fun. 114 00:06:50,410 --> 00:06:51,036 - Nothing wrong with that. 115 00:06:51,328 --> 00:06:52,621 - I don't think there's gonna be hailstorms 116 00:06:52,913 --> 00:06:56,708 - A $20 bet that we have two or more hailstorms. 117 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,001 - Does it actually have to hail or... 118 00:06:58,293 --> 00:07:00,670 - It actually has to hail, like a substantial amount. 119 00:07:00,962 --> 00:07:02,672 - I will take that bet. 120 00:07:02,964 --> 00:07:04,925 It's gotta be ice falling from the sky. 121 00:07:05,216 --> 00:07:07,677 I mean twice on the same day doesn't count right? 122 00:07:07,969 --> 00:07:08,929 - I'm gonna lose this bet but... 123 00:07:09,220 --> 00:07:12,432 - |I wanna just bet you some thing. 124 00:07:12,724 --> 00:07:15,310 (soft music) 125 00:07:43,713 --> 00:07:45,298 - Well, for me my expectations 126 00:07:45,590 --> 00:07:47,801 for this hike was a little bit different. 127 00:07:48,093 --> 00:07:50,136 I started my summer out hiking the long trail 128 00:07:50,428 --> 00:07:52,055 that goes through the Green Mountains of Vermont. 129 00:07:52,347 --> 00:07:55,767 Once I finished that one, I went over to California 130 00:07:56,059 --> 00:07:57,310 through hiked John Muir Trail. 131 00:07:57,602 --> 00:08:01,147 So I thought this wasn't gonna be like anything 132 00:08:01,690 --> 00:08:04,067 magnificent is just 133 00:08:06,194 --> 00:08:07,862 Don't ever underestimate a trail. 134 00:08:10,156 --> 00:08:12,701 - So today we're gonna hike about 12 miles. 135 00:08:13,034 --> 00:08:13,868 We're gonna be in a forest 136 00:08:14,202 --> 00:08:15,453 most of the time, so that's good. 137 00:08:15,787 --> 00:08:16,955 The thing that's not so good 138 00:08:17,372 --> 00:08:18,915 is there's not really much water. 139 00:08:19,207 --> 00:08:20,625 We may have some water at the end, 140 00:08:20,917 --> 00:08:22,711 so hopefully we don't get dehydrated. 141 00:08:23,003 --> 00:08:23,837 We're gonna start climbing slow 142 00:08:24,129 --> 00:08:28,091 and then in two more days, we should get above treeline 143 00:08:28,383 --> 00:08:30,635 and be above 10,000 feet almost the whole time. 144 00:08:35,682 --> 00:08:38,727 - My name is Tom Flanigan, I'm the Forest Archeologist 145 00:08:39,019 --> 00:08:39,769 and the Heritage Program Manager 146 00:08:40,061 --> 00:08:42,731 for the Uinta-Wasatch-Cache National Forest. 147 00:08:43,023 --> 00:08:45,734 The Uinta High line Trail traversals about 104 miles 148 00:08:46,026 --> 00:08:47,736 along the backbone of the Uinta Mountains. 149 00:08:48,028 --> 00:08:49,487 The eastern terminus is in McKee Draw 150 00:08:49,779 --> 00:08:51,698 which is located on the Ashley National Forest. 151 00:08:51,990 --> 00:08:54,284 The western terminus is over by Hayden peak, 152 00:08:54,576 --> 00:08:56,661 Hayden Pass area near the Mirror Lake highway. 153 00:08:56,953 --> 00:08:59,789 The Uintas were designated as a primitive area 154 00:09:00,123 --> 00:09:01,207 long before the Wilderness Act. 155 00:09:01,541 --> 00:09:04,711 So this was identified early on as a unique place. 156 00:09:05,003 --> 00:09:07,338 We have a unique topography, we have a mountain range 157 00:09:07,630 --> 00:09:10,759 that's unique in its linear structure going east to west, 158 00:09:11,051 --> 00:09:13,678 the geology, the history and its importance 159 00:09:13,970 --> 00:09:14,763 to the expansion of the West. 160 00:09:17,057 --> 00:09:19,726 Even in 1935, it was identified as unique enough 161 00:09:20,101 --> 00:09:21,770 to be set aside as a primitive area. 162 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,690 - The trail itself seems to be built in sections. 163 00:09:26,691 --> 00:09:28,234 We've done our own research here. 164 00:09:28,526 --> 00:09:30,236 And it was kind of interesting, the fact that a lot 165 00:09:30,528 --> 00:09:32,155 of the Forest Service folks don't have a whole lot 166 00:09:32,447 --> 00:09:34,741 of idea when the trail was actually built. 167 00:09:35,033 --> 00:09:35,867 Doing some of the historic research we're able 168 00:09:36,326 --> 00:09:38,953 to put together some of the different aspects of it. 169 00:09:39,245 --> 00:09:42,791 And probably the earliest, identifiable concerted effort 170 00:09:43,083 --> 00:09:45,794 to make a trail was during the Civilian Conservation Corps 171 00:09:46,086 --> 00:09:49,798 era under the new deal and the Roosevelt administration 172 00:09:50,090 --> 00:09:51,257 trying to put everybody back to work. 173 00:09:51,549 --> 00:09:53,259 A lot of our infrastructure on the national parks, 174 00:09:53,593 --> 00:09:55,720 national forests were created by the CCC. 175 00:09:56,012 --> 00:09:58,389 And I did find a newspaper article dating to the 1930s 176 00:09:58,681 --> 00:10:01,351 talking about some of the early sections of the trail 177 00:10:01,643 --> 00:10:04,813 from that Hayden Peak Hayden pass area being constructed 178 00:10:05,105 --> 00:10:07,816 by Boy Scout troops and also members of the CCC. 179 00:10:09,359 --> 00:10:11,611 So then probably what happened is then the trail 180 00:10:11,903 --> 00:10:14,405 was building in sections from that, and then also maybe 181 00:10:14,697 --> 00:10:17,158 existing trails had then got tied into it. 182 00:10:17,450 --> 00:10:19,911 (birds chirping) 183 00:10:22,163 --> 00:10:23,706 - Hi you guys! 184 00:10:24,833 --> 00:10:27,210 - Moooooooo 185 00:10:27,502 --> 00:10:29,170 - Uh Oh... 186 00:10:29,838 --> 00:10:31,840 - Not the wildlife I thought I was gonna see out here 187 00:10:32,132 --> 00:10:35,260 - Day one, we were constantly in and out of meadows 188 00:10:35,552 --> 00:10:37,846 and forests and the trail was tough to navigate. 189 00:10:38,138 --> 00:10:40,682 In fact, for a huge portion there was actually 190 00:10:40,974 --> 00:10:43,768 no trail, you were really just following a route. 191 00:10:44,060 --> 00:10:46,855 - So the trail was marked with rock Cairns 192 00:10:47,147 --> 00:10:49,524 and blazes like ax places on the trees 193 00:10:49,816 --> 00:10:51,860 and a lot of it didn't really have foot tread, 194 00:10:52,152 --> 00:10:54,362 or if there was foot tread it was very light. 195 00:10:54,654 --> 00:10:55,321 And I think we got turned around 196 00:10:55,613 --> 00:10:56,865 a couple times that first day. 197 00:10:57,157 --> 00:10:59,117 We had a nice argument over which was the right trail 198 00:10:59,409 --> 00:11:00,577 because there was an old trail 199 00:11:00,869 --> 00:11:02,829 and a new trail that split off. 200 00:11:03,121 --> 00:11:03,872 - This isn't showing any turns. 201 00:11:04,164 --> 00:11:05,957 There's a road that we're supposed to cross 202 00:11:06,249 --> 00:11:07,834 and we haven't crossed it yet. 203 00:11:08,126 --> 00:11:09,419 And there's no junctions on here. 204 00:11:09,711 --> 00:11:10,879 - All I did was get a file, 205 00:11:11,171 --> 00:11:11,880 you guys made me the navigator 206 00:11:12,172 --> 00:11:12,922 I didn't ask to be the navigator. 207 00:11:13,214 --> 00:11:14,174 - Yeah, but you didn't check your file. 208 00:11:14,465 --> 00:11:16,968 - See up here, the blaze is old, but on this same trail 209 00:11:17,260 --> 00:11:18,136 going down before you get to the...it's brand new. 210 00:11:19,721 --> 00:11:21,806 -Yeah, let's stick on the new trail. 211 00:11:22,098 --> 00:11:22,682 - What do you mean a new trail? 212 00:11:22,974 --> 00:11:23,641 - No, I'm saying this trail 213 00:11:23,933 --> 00:11:24,559 has a brand new blaze at the bottom. 214 00:11:25,602 --> 00:11:27,896 - Yeah, because it's going that way. 215 00:11:28,188 --> 00:11:29,355 -I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 216 00:11:29,647 --> 00:11:30,481 - I don't wanna get lost. 217 00:11:30,773 --> 00:11:32,650 - My name is Joe Valesko. 218 00:11:33,526 --> 00:11:35,904 I started a company that makes ultralight 219 00:11:36,196 --> 00:11:39,032 backpacking gear in 2005. 220 00:11:39,324 --> 00:11:41,242 Since then, I've hiked probably 221 00:11:41,534 --> 00:11:43,161 over 10,000 long distance miles. 222 00:11:43,453 --> 00:11:45,788 - Joe's one of the most interesting people I've ever met. 223 00:11:46,289 --> 00:11:51,169 He's one part like robot in a way. 224 00:11:52,587 --> 00:11:54,964 At work, he's just an engineer. 225 00:11:55,340 --> 00:11:56,341 He's kind of emotionless, 226 00:11:56,633 --> 00:11:59,260 he just wants to do things a certain way. 227 00:11:59,552 --> 00:12:02,472 - Problem there is on the other tent on the prototype tent, 228 00:12:02,805 --> 00:12:05,141 this piece shouldn't be this long. 229 00:12:05,433 --> 00:12:06,684 It's supposed to be like this long. 230 00:12:06,976 --> 00:12:09,354 - And then on the other hand, you've got this guy 231 00:12:09,646 --> 00:12:12,482 who in Scotland on top of the second highest mountain 232 00:12:12,774 --> 00:12:15,818 in Scotland, it's like 60 mile per hour sustained winds, 233 00:12:16,194 --> 00:12:17,737 we can barely walk. 234 00:12:18,029 --> 00:12:19,822 And we're like getting blown all over the place. 235 00:12:20,114 --> 00:12:20,823 And I look up and the guy's got 236 00:12:21,115 --> 00:12:22,367 the biggest smile on his face. 237 00:12:22,659 --> 00:12:25,745 So he's like, one part engineer, and then one part living 238 00:12:26,037 --> 00:12:29,999 on the edge, and it's almost like he's two people. 239 00:12:32,293 --> 00:12:34,420 -Woooo!!! 240 00:12:34,712 --> 00:12:35,171 It is straight down. 241 00:12:36,839 --> 00:12:42,303 - Joe has the most minimal needs of anyone I've ever met. 242 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,056 - So I always hike in sandals, they keep my feet cool. 243 00:12:45,515 --> 00:12:46,641 They dry off really quick. 244 00:12:47,183 --> 00:12:49,769 - There's not really any downside to it, really. 245 00:12:50,061 --> 00:12:52,981 I mean, I did the Continental Divide Trail in sandals 246 00:12:53,273 --> 00:12:54,899 in the snow and everything else, 247 00:12:55,191 --> 00:12:55,900 I just had waterproof socks. 248 00:12:56,192 --> 00:13:00,780 - He can get by on very little external material things. 249 00:13:01,072 --> 00:13:05,034 He's truly a minimalist, and he's happy being so. 250 00:13:06,035 --> 00:13:09,539 - Joe's kind of quiet, doesn't say a whole lot. 251 00:13:09,998 --> 00:13:12,917 - He's very opinionated, he's very determined, 252 00:13:13,418 --> 00:13:16,045 and he's mentally strong. 253 00:13:16,504 --> 00:13:20,216 He's got more experience backpacking than any of us. 254 00:13:20,508 --> 00:13:21,843 He's hiked the Appalachian Trail, 255 00:13:22,135 --> 00:13:25,096 the Continental Divide Trail and the Pacific Crest Trail. 256 00:13:25,388 --> 00:13:27,098 Those are just the three long trails 257 00:13:27,390 --> 00:13:28,266 he's done in the United States. 258 00:13:28,558 --> 00:13:30,268 Then the Te Araroa in New Zealand. 259 00:13:30,560 --> 00:13:32,687 His wife did a lot of the hikes with him 260 00:13:32,979 --> 00:13:35,982 but she did the Te Araroa, pregnant. 261 00:13:36,274 --> 00:13:36,983 If that says anything. 262 00:13:37,275 --> 00:13:39,027 - He's always been very confident. 263 00:13:39,319 --> 00:13:42,613 He's very smart, he loves the outdoors. 264 00:13:42,905 --> 00:13:45,033 I think of him, I think of the color green. 265 00:13:45,325 --> 00:13:46,909 - I was outdoors a lot as a kid. 266 00:13:47,201 --> 00:13:49,037 We had a kind of a forest behind my house 267 00:13:49,329 --> 00:13:50,830 and I spent a lot of time back there. 268 00:13:51,122 --> 00:13:52,999 We had a river, I used to go swimming a lot. 269 00:13:53,666 --> 00:13:56,502 My family used to go on camping trips. 270 00:13:56,794 --> 00:13:57,587 Whenever we went on vacation, 271 00:13:57,879 --> 00:14:00,006 we were usually low budget so we would go camping. 272 00:14:01,174 --> 00:14:02,925 When I was in high school, I got the idea 273 00:14:03,259 --> 00:14:04,969 that I wanted to hike the Appalachian Trail. 274 00:14:05,261 --> 00:14:07,347 So I started researching backpacking, 275 00:14:07,638 --> 00:14:09,682 I'd never been backpacking before, 276 00:14:09,974 --> 00:14:13,311 I realized that lightweight gear was important. 277 00:14:13,603 --> 00:14:15,480 So I bought the lightest gear I could find, 278 00:14:15,772 --> 00:14:18,066 did some test hikes, looked at it and realized 279 00:14:18,358 --> 00:14:20,818 a lot of it was just way too heavy and unnecessary. 280 00:14:21,110 --> 00:14:24,697 So I got into making my own gear and ultimately 281 00:14:24,989 --> 00:14:26,199 ended up hiking the Appalachian Trail 282 00:14:26,491 --> 00:14:30,078 in 2004 with mostly homemade gear. 283 00:14:30,370 --> 00:14:32,205 Nobody was ultralight back then, everybody was carrying 284 00:14:32,497 --> 00:14:35,875 like 40, 50 pounds, big heavy backpacks, it was awful. 285 00:14:36,167 --> 00:14:38,294 So I was carrying, you know, an eight pound backpack 286 00:14:38,586 --> 00:14:39,337 and everybody's like, what are you doing, 287 00:14:40,088 --> 00:14:41,964 you're gonna die or they were all impressed 288 00:14:42,256 --> 00:14:43,800 or scared for my life, one of the other. 289 00:14:44,092 --> 00:14:46,427 The people that liked the idea, they're like you should 290 00:14:47,929 --> 00:14:49,722 start making this stuff when you get off 291 00:14:50,014 --> 00:14:52,141 the trail and I had just graduated college 292 00:14:52,433 --> 00:14:53,434 and didn't have a job yet or anything. 293 00:14:53,726 --> 00:14:58,106 So I finished the AT, went back home to my parents house 294 00:14:58,398 --> 00:14:59,190 and of course they were putting 295 00:14:59,482 --> 00:15:00,191 a lot of pressure on me to get a job. 296 00:15:01,025 --> 00:15:04,112 So |I ended up getting a job as a software developer 297 00:15:04,404 --> 00:15:06,531 but at the same time I was starting to make 298 00:15:06,823 --> 00:15:08,741 my first products to sell and I put together 299 00:15:09,033 --> 00:15:11,160 a little website and that's how it all got started. 300 00:15:11,452 --> 00:15:15,039 I met my wife in college, I had a studio apartment 301 00:15:15,415 --> 00:15:18,084 so I was working out of my kitchen, I would come home 302 00:15:18,376 --> 00:15:20,002 from work and start working again. 303 00:15:20,294 --> 00:15:22,463 I'd start building a backpack or building stuff sacks 304 00:15:22,755 --> 00:15:23,673 or building little stuff like that. 305 00:15:23,965 --> 00:15:27,969 - In 2010 we grew pretty fast, it was actually stressful. 306 00:15:28,261 --> 00:15:29,846 (motivational music) 307 00:15:32,765 --> 00:15:36,060 - I spent the last decade and a half building my business 308 00:15:36,352 --> 00:15:38,146 and that was more than a full time job. 309 00:15:38,438 --> 00:15:40,022 You know we'd get up in the morning and work until we went 310 00:15:40,314 --> 00:15:42,483 to bed at night pretty much, but I've been trying 311 00:15:42,775 --> 00:15:45,862 to tone that back or dial that back lately. 312 00:15:46,154 --> 00:15:48,531 - We are having more family time which is great. 313 00:15:48,823 --> 00:15:51,659 - My family is the most important thing to me. 314 00:15:51,951 --> 00:15:53,744 Every day we try and go and do something. 315 00:15:54,036 --> 00:15:57,999 We'll go canoeing or camping, outdoor stuff. 316 00:15:58,291 --> 00:15:59,917 From what I've seen kids just do the opposite 317 00:16:00,209 --> 00:16:01,169 of what their parents do. 318 00:16:01,461 --> 00:16:03,171 So I don't really have expectations. 319 00:16:03,463 --> 00:16:05,214 I hope they like the outdoors and I hope they like doing 320 00:16:05,506 --> 00:16:08,468 the same sorts of stuff that my wife and I like to do. 321 00:16:08,759 --> 00:16:10,636 But eventually they're gonna be their own people. 322 00:16:10,928 --> 00:16:11,929 I know that. 323 00:16:12,221 --> 00:16:13,681 - I think he's a great husband. 324 00:16:13,973 --> 00:16:15,433 I think he's a great father. 325 00:16:15,725 --> 00:16:18,269 I hope I'm friends with Joe for life. 326 00:16:24,025 --> 00:16:26,194 (birds chirping) 327 00:16:28,154 --> 00:16:29,864 - I got the sandals, the staff and the hats. 328 00:16:30,198 --> 00:16:33,284 So I picked up the trail name, Samurai Joe 329 00:16:33,576 --> 00:16:34,785 It'd make more sense if I was wearing the hat. 330 00:16:36,746 --> 00:16:38,706 - My tail name is Red Beard and I think you might be able 331 00:16:39,081 --> 00:16:41,250 to figure out why I have that trail name. 332 00:16:41,542 --> 00:16:43,377 I got it on the AT, my first thru hike. 333 00:16:43,961 --> 00:16:45,546 - My trail name is Plug-It-In. 334 00:16:47,131 --> 00:16:48,883 Actually, it's the name of my business. 335 00:16:49,175 --> 00:16:52,136 I was wearing one of my Plug It In t-shirts. 336 00:16:52,428 --> 00:16:54,096 Whenever I was hiking one time and a, 337 00:16:54,388 --> 00:16:56,140 through hiker came through and said 338 00:16:56,432 --> 00:16:57,683 "Hey what's up, Plug It In?" 339 00:16:57,975 --> 00:16:59,644 That's how it happens 340 00:16:59,936 --> 00:17:01,729 - My trail name is Cannonball. 341 00:17:02,021 --> 00:17:03,231 I got it on my very first night 342 00:17:03,523 --> 00:17:05,233 before I hiked my very first hike. 343 00:17:05,525 --> 00:17:08,194 I fell off the top deck of the Fontana Hilton 344 00:17:08,486 --> 00:17:11,155 Getting up to go to the bathroom, I got a concussion. 345 00:17:11,447 --> 00:17:13,241 And everybody was very concerned. 346 00:17:14,408 --> 00:17:15,243 They said, "Are you okay?" 347 00:17:15,535 --> 00:17:17,245 I said, no, I'm not okay. 348 00:17:17,537 --> 00:17:19,664 But no one seemed to get up to care. 349 00:17:19,956 --> 00:17:22,500 The next day, I had a concussion, I couldn't eat. 350 00:17:22,792 --> 00:17:24,252 I was dizzy, and I almost threw up. 351 00:17:24,544 --> 00:17:26,921 I love it, so I've been hiking ever since, 352 00:17:27,213 --> 00:17:28,923 I fell in love with hiking that day. 353 00:17:29,215 --> 00:17:31,384 - My trail name is Details. 354 00:17:31,676 --> 00:17:33,386 Actually, Steve gave it to me because I was obsessesing 355 00:17:33,678 --> 00:17:37,807 over all the logistics of the trip, and now they like 356 00:17:38,099 --> 00:17:40,226 to make fun of me when I miss a detail, so... 357 00:17:40,518 --> 00:17:42,728 - It's built in name so we can make fun 358 00:17:43,187 --> 00:17:44,981 of him when he gets things wrong. 359 00:17:45,273 --> 00:17:47,108 And we just make up things that he does wrong 360 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:48,359 just so we could make fun of him. 361 00:17:48,776 --> 00:17:50,361 He's a great planner. 362 00:17:51,696 --> 00:17:53,948 (upbeat music) 363 00:17:55,575 --> 00:17:56,909 - Dang that's good 364 00:18:21,517 --> 00:18:22,518 - My name's Gordon Hirschi. 365 00:18:22,893 --> 00:18:25,938 I'm president, Uinta Basin Back Country Horsemen. 366 00:18:26,314 --> 00:18:29,025 I've been clearing these trails for about 10 years. 367 00:18:29,775 --> 00:18:35,281 The High line Trail is special to me because there's very few 368 00:18:35,573 --> 00:18:37,867 people and it has great scenery. 369 00:18:38,326 --> 00:18:41,579 The purpose behind Back Country Horseman 370 00:18:41,954 --> 00:18:45,666 is we make sure that trail stays open. 371 00:18:46,626 --> 00:18:48,836 Basically, we go through with chain saws 372 00:18:49,128 --> 00:18:53,341 and other hand tools, and the trees that are fallen 373 00:18:53,633 --> 00:18:55,051 or getting ready to fall, 374 00:18:55,343 --> 00:18:58,179 that might be a danger to the users, 375 00:18:58,471 --> 00:19:01,390 we remove those trees from the trail. 376 00:19:01,682 --> 00:19:06,187 We also put in water bars, either made out of rocks 377 00:19:06,479 --> 00:19:10,524 or small wooden bars, and they're put in at an angle 378 00:19:10,816 --> 00:19:12,526 to divert the water off the trail. 379 00:19:12,860 --> 00:19:15,363 If you don't, it'll eventually wash the trail out. 380 00:19:17,865 --> 00:19:20,034 In the winter, I'm a couch potato. 381 00:19:22,036 --> 00:19:24,580 When it comes time to working on the trails, 382 00:19:25,164 --> 00:19:28,000 I actually look forward to it, I bug 383 00:19:28,292 --> 00:19:30,961 the forest service I says, get the gates open. 384 00:19:31,253 --> 00:19:33,047 I need to get up there and get to work. 385 00:19:33,339 --> 00:19:38,052 And then in the health aspect, I usually lose 30 386 00:19:38,344 --> 00:19:42,139 to 40 pounds every summer by just getting out 387 00:19:42,473 --> 00:19:45,184 and climbing on and off a horse and the gals 388 00:19:45,476 --> 00:19:50,398 sometimes asked what my secret is, so I says, come on out. 389 00:19:50,690 --> 00:19:53,401 I'll put you on a horse and give you a chainsaw 390 00:19:53,859 --> 00:19:56,404 and I'll show you how to lose pounds. 391 00:19:56,696 --> 00:19:57,530 (laughing) 392 00:20:06,914 --> 00:20:08,582 Something had to be done 393 00:20:09,125 --> 00:20:12,461 or we would lose the trails for posterity. 394 00:20:31,564 --> 00:20:34,316 (upbeat music) 395 00:20:36,485 --> 00:20:39,113 - Well, we were walking down this meadow here looking 396 00:20:39,405 --> 00:20:43,409 for some water and we came across this beautiful 397 00:20:43,701 --> 00:20:44,326 little stream it kind of looks 398 00:20:44,618 --> 00:20:47,037 like it just comes right out of the ground. 399 00:20:47,329 --> 00:20:47,705 - I don't feel great. 400 00:20:49,165 --> 00:20:49,623 -You don't? 401 00:20:49,915 --> 00:20:50,458 What's the matter? 402 00:20:50,750 --> 00:20:52,376 - I'm just hurty everywhere. 403 00:20:52,668 --> 00:20:53,169 - Hurty 404 00:20:53,502 --> 00:20:54,378 (laughing) 405 00:20:54,670 --> 00:20:57,757 He's in the fetal position. 406 00:20:58,841 --> 00:21:00,384 - Sorry man. 407 00:21:10,019 --> 00:21:12,563 - I just had a great dinner, great hiking day. 408 00:21:13,105 --> 00:21:15,691 Can't wait to get in there and go to sleep, watch some TV. 409 00:21:16,776 --> 00:21:19,153 Read, write some letters. 410 00:21:21,155 --> 00:21:23,115 Wake up in the morning, and do it all over again. 411 00:21:24,533 --> 00:21:27,369 (scary music) 412 00:21:31,457 --> 00:21:36,295 - One of the biggest things we run onto as trail people 413 00:21:36,712 --> 00:21:40,716 is what they call "altitude sickness". 414 00:21:41,175 --> 00:21:43,052 - Will, he wasn't feeling too good, 415 00:21:43,344 --> 00:21:45,513 he was having some issues with the elevation. 416 00:21:45,805 --> 00:21:47,890 - He had a slight headache as did | 417 00:21:48,307 --> 00:21:50,100 and he was feeling a little bit nauseous. 418 00:21:50,559 --> 00:21:53,062 - You figure they're coming from almost zero 419 00:21:53,479 --> 00:21:56,065 all the way up to almost 10,000 feet. 420 00:21:56,524 --> 00:21:57,525 - It's not a fun deal. 421 00:21:57,817 --> 00:22:00,528 The severe cases you feel disoriented. 422 00:22:01,695 --> 00:22:04,031 - Well, today was day one on the Highland, 423 00:22:04,698 --> 00:22:06,075 which trail are we on again? 424 00:22:06,367 --> 00:22:06,784 - By the time we got to camp, 425 00:22:07,409 --> 00:22:08,869 it seemed to be getting a little bit worse. 426 00:22:09,161 --> 00:22:13,165 So after he attempted to eat some food, it really got worse. 427 00:22:14,083 --> 00:22:16,836 (scary music) 428 00:22:20,005 --> 00:22:23,676 - My name is Will Wood and I work for a backpacking company 429 00:22:23,968 --> 00:22:27,012 and I run the backpacking company's social media 430 00:22:27,304 --> 00:22:29,390 and I also backpack for living. 431 00:22:29,682 --> 00:22:31,559 - Will's a fun guy, he's pretty laid back. 432 00:22:31,851 --> 00:22:33,561 He's usually pretty happy go lucky. 433 00:22:33,853 --> 00:22:34,645 - You're almost doing the backpack dance. 434 00:22:36,522 --> 00:22:38,524 (laughing) 435 00:22:38,941 --> 00:22:40,192 - He's a strong hiker. 436 00:22:40,609 --> 00:22:43,320 -The older I get, the less I can keep up with a guy. 437 00:22:43,863 --> 00:22:47,324 - He's got thousands of miles under his belt. 438 00:22:47,616 --> 00:22:49,743 He knows what he's doing when he's on the trail. 439 00:22:50,035 --> 00:22:52,580 - He hiked the Appalachian Trail and then the year 440 00:22:52,872 --> 00:22:56,083 after that he did most of the PCT. 441 00:22:56,375 --> 00:22:58,919 - He has a little camera and he films everything. 442 00:22:59,211 --> 00:23:00,588 He does gear reviews. 443 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:01,463 - Hey, guys, Red Beard here. 444 00:23:01,755 --> 00:23:05,593 Well, I've been getting a lot of requests on trekking poles. 445 00:23:05,885 --> 00:23:07,052 - He filmed his hikes. 446 00:23:07,344 --> 00:23:08,804 - Wow you can really tell just how much water 447 00:23:09,096 --> 00:23:10,598 got dumped in this area. 448 00:23:10,890 --> 00:23:12,850 - Apparently a bunch of people like to watch him do that. 449 00:23:13,142 --> 00:23:15,603 So he's pretty popular on social media. 450 00:23:15,895 --> 00:23:19,064 - He loves the outdoors, he loves the community. 451 00:23:19,356 --> 00:23:23,611 He really cherishes his relationship with his followers, 452 00:23:24,236 --> 00:23:26,655 and I cherish my relationship with him. 453 00:23:27,072 --> 00:23:30,409 - Will Wood is quite a tender soul much more 454 00:23:30,784 --> 00:23:33,537 than what you would think just meeting him. 455 00:23:33,913 --> 00:23:36,707 He has a lot of depth, a lot of emotion. 456 00:23:37,833 --> 00:23:40,252 He cares deeply about people. 457 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,714 He's very smart, he has a lot of skills. 458 00:23:44,381 --> 00:23:47,176 He is just a close dear friend of mine. 459 00:23:49,803 --> 00:23:52,848 - Growing up as a kid, I was really passionate about sports. 460 00:23:53,182 --> 00:23:56,310 I played tennis, soccer, cross country track. 461 00:23:56,602 --> 00:23:59,396 And I started hiking, when I was young with my dad, 462 00:23:59,730 --> 00:24:03,400 he would take us to the Smoky Mountains and my family 463 00:24:03,692 --> 00:24:06,654 would kind of hang out in town and my dad and I would go 464 00:24:06,946 --> 00:24:10,658 into the forest and just hike all the trails in the Smokies 465 00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:12,743 and ever since then I really started to develop 466 00:24:13,035 --> 00:24:15,663 a passion for being outside and backpacking. 467 00:24:15,955 --> 00:24:17,748 - I hike because I love being in the forest. 468 00:24:20,542 --> 00:24:22,795 And I've also found that when I'm traveling, 469 00:24:23,087 --> 00:24:25,381 I love experiencing different cultures, 470 00:24:25,673 --> 00:24:27,257 whether I'm hiking just in different states 471 00:24:27,549 --> 00:24:29,677 in the United States or in other countries. 472 00:24:29,969 --> 00:24:30,761 - Well, guys, we've made it to Iceland. 473 00:24:31,845 --> 00:24:33,597 -Well, I can't believe I'm here 474 00:24:33,889 --> 00:24:35,557 in southern Chile of Patagonia. 475 00:24:35,849 --> 00:24:37,601 - Well, here we are in Tasmania. 476 00:24:37,893 --> 00:24:40,688 - I really get a grasp for the culture and the people 477 00:24:40,980 --> 00:24:43,732 when I'm walking and exploring on foot. 478 00:24:44,024 --> 00:24:46,694 So it's just a lot different than driving in a car. 479 00:24:46,986 --> 00:24:51,073 You really feel much more connected to the location. 480 00:24:51,365 --> 00:24:52,908 (soft music) 481 00:24:55,577 --> 00:24:58,622 - Before I started long distance hiking in 2014, 482 00:24:58,914 --> 00:25:03,210 I found that I was kind of lost and a lot of times 483 00:25:03,502 --> 00:25:07,715 I settled in life, I got married young, before I really 484 00:25:08,007 --> 00:25:11,093 even kind of knew who I was as a person. 485 00:25:11,385 --> 00:25:13,846 (soft music) 486 00:25:33,782 --> 00:25:36,577 - Before I was kind of just playing everything safe. 487 00:25:36,869 --> 00:25:39,580 So long distance hiking forced me out there on my own. 488 00:25:39,872 --> 00:25:43,834 It really just, it awakened me, it awakened my soul. 489 00:25:44,752 --> 00:25:47,963 Since then, my life has just been one adventure 490 00:25:48,255 --> 00:25:50,799 after the next really and all it took was that first 491 00:25:51,133 --> 00:25:54,720 initial step, once I started chasing after the things 492 00:25:55,012 --> 00:25:57,097 that I was passionate about, that's when I just started 493 00:25:57,389 --> 00:25:59,099 to notice my life beginning to change. 494 00:26:01,185 --> 00:26:03,937 I met Joe and Matt in 2013, as I was preparing 495 00:26:04,229 --> 00:26:06,648 for the Appalachian Trail, a good friend of mine 496 00:26:06,940 --> 00:26:08,859 who was gonna originally hike the trail with me. 497 00:26:09,151 --> 00:26:11,528 He went to the warehouse of the backpacking company 498 00:26:11,820 --> 00:26:15,032 where Joe and Matt work at and he introduced himself 499 00:26:15,324 --> 00:26:16,700 and they invited us to come on 500 00:26:16,992 --> 00:26:18,285 a hike with them in the Smokys. 501 00:26:18,577 --> 00:26:19,244 It was about a 70 miles section hike. 502 00:26:20,954 --> 00:26:24,500 We started to bond on that hike and form a friendship. 503 00:26:24,792 --> 00:26:26,543 After I finished the Appalachian Trail, 504 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,838 I ended up moving down to Florida to work with them 505 00:26:30,130 --> 00:26:32,091 and we've been close friends ever since. 506 00:26:32,382 --> 00:26:34,843 And we've hiked all over the world together the last four 507 00:26:35,135 --> 00:26:36,970 or five years it's been quite an adventure. 508 00:26:39,348 --> 00:26:41,767 - Will and I met actually on a dating app. 509 00:26:42,059 --> 00:26:44,186 - She was different than any girl 510 00:26:44,478 --> 00:26:46,688 that I had seen since moving to Florida. 511 00:26:46,980 --> 00:26:49,399 Her pictures were of her on a tractor. 512 00:26:49,691 --> 00:26:51,110 She's a farmer and she's very passionate 513 00:26:51,401 --> 00:26:54,196 about what does, I just was really drawn to that. 514 00:26:54,488 --> 00:26:58,325 - When we first met, he popped his head in my window. 515 00:26:58,617 --> 00:27:00,828 And was super smiley and I just saw all this red hair 516 00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:04,498 and he was just super funny, made me laugh a lot, 517 00:27:04,790 --> 00:27:07,668 we got along great, he was also a little nervous. 518 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,419 I could tell, but it was really cute. 519 00:27:10,712 --> 00:27:12,548 (upbeat music) 520 00:27:14,591 --> 00:27:16,135 - Long distance hiking definitely 521 00:27:16,468 --> 00:27:17,845 can impact your normal home life. 522 00:27:18,137 --> 00:27:20,681 Obviously, if you're gonna be gone for a month 523 00:27:20,973 --> 00:27:23,433 to six months hiking through the forest, 524 00:27:23,725 --> 00:27:25,894 sometimes you don't even have cell phone service. 525 00:27:26,186 --> 00:27:28,105 It can be tough, it can be tough for those you love 526 00:27:28,438 --> 00:27:29,857 and those that you leave behind. 527 00:27:30,149 --> 00:27:31,692 But for us, it's definitely a little bit 528 00:27:31,984 --> 00:27:34,736 more difficult because we are running a small farm. 529 00:27:35,028 --> 00:27:38,490 So it does put more work on Joelle, 530 00:27:38,782 --> 00:27:41,869 But she's a worker, so she's able to hold things down 531 00:27:42,161 --> 00:27:44,163 until I get back and I'm kind of more her helper. 532 00:27:44,454 --> 00:27:47,916 She's the professional farmer, so I'm learning from her. 533 00:27:48,333 --> 00:27:50,502 - Hiking for Will is his passion 534 00:27:50,961 --> 00:27:52,796 and I want him to do what he loves. 535 00:27:53,088 --> 00:27:54,423 He's always excited to come home and share 536 00:27:54,715 --> 00:27:57,217 with me his experiences and I really love that. 537 00:27:58,177 --> 00:28:00,971 (upbeat music) 538 00:28:08,687 --> 00:28:10,731 (coughing) 539 00:28:11,023 --> 00:28:12,858 (barfing sounds) 540 00:28:13,859 --> 00:28:15,611 (Mellow music) 541 00:28:21,366 --> 00:28:25,162 - Typically, when I hike at elevation I've walked 1000 miles 542 00:28:25,454 --> 00:28:27,039 before I've gotten there so I've had no issues 543 00:28:27,331 --> 00:28:29,917 but on this trip after the first day of hiking, 544 00:28:30,209 --> 00:28:32,878 we were approaching 10,000 feet in elevation. 545 00:28:33,170 --> 00:28:35,923 So last night I experienced for the first time 546 00:28:36,215 --> 00:28:38,926 having elevation sickness and it was pretty rough. 547 00:28:39,218 --> 00:28:41,345 I attempted to eat dinner and threw it up 548 00:28:41,637 --> 00:28:44,598 so I threw up twice, today's a new day. 549 00:28:44,890 --> 00:28:45,682 I'm feeling great this morning. 550 00:28:45,974 --> 00:28:47,851 So let's keep our fingers crossed. 551 00:28:48,143 --> 00:28:49,269 It's gonna be different today. 552 00:28:49,561 --> 00:28:52,022 - Will seem to be doing fine and all the effects 553 00:28:52,314 --> 00:28:53,732 of the altitude had gone away. 554 00:28:54,024 --> 00:28:57,110 - So Benny and I took a little side trip down 555 00:28:57,486 --> 00:29:01,323 to Mill Park, which had an old sawmill and we found 556 00:29:01,615 --> 00:29:05,285 these old cabins that were like 100 years old or more. 557 00:29:05,577 --> 00:29:08,914 It was really cool to see the history 558 00:29:09,206 --> 00:29:11,083 of the pioneers, to see the relics. 559 00:29:12,376 --> 00:29:14,544 - The remnants maybe just three, four logs high, 560 00:29:14,836 --> 00:29:16,838 but still, that was very cool to see that, 561 00:29:17,130 --> 00:29:18,840 especially to step in those cabin areas. 562 00:29:19,716 --> 00:29:23,553 Knowing that 100 years ago, people lived in those, 563 00:29:23,845 --> 00:29:25,973 and people were walking on the very spots 564 00:29:26,265 --> 00:29:27,975 that we were walking on. 565 00:29:28,267 --> 00:29:30,018 (saw mill sounds) 566 00:29:30,310 --> 00:29:33,021 (soft music) 567 00:30:07,306 --> 00:30:09,016 - Near the end of the day, we're gonna pass 568 00:30:09,308 --> 00:30:11,852 Carter Military Trail and there's a stream there 569 00:30:12,144 --> 00:30:14,563 so we can load up, then after that we're gonna 570 00:30:14,938 --> 00:30:16,315 be hitting a bunch of water. 571 00:30:16,606 --> 00:30:19,359 (upbeat music) 572 00:30:24,489 --> 00:30:27,117 - Day two was very similar to day one 573 00:30:27,409 --> 00:30:28,994 we did pop out of the forest. 574 00:30:29,286 --> 00:30:32,247 - We came next to this one hill and we could see 575 00:30:32,539 --> 00:30:34,666 just this one pile of rocks up there and we thought, 576 00:30:34,958 --> 00:30:38,295 you know, that looks pretty cool, let's go check it out. 577 00:30:38,587 --> 00:30:42,049 It honestly look like a chimney, is was basically a huge 578 00:30:42,341 --> 00:30:45,052 rock cairn that someone had built up that was 579 00:30:45,344 --> 00:30:47,929 probably eight feet tall, if not taller than that. 580 00:30:51,516 --> 00:30:53,685 - We got our first view of the mountains all around. 581 00:30:54,019 --> 00:30:54,728 So that was pretty cool. 582 00:30:55,395 --> 00:30:56,855 We sat up there on top of this little peak 583 00:30:57,147 --> 00:30:59,691 for quite a while and had our lunch and everything. 584 00:31:02,694 --> 00:31:04,321 - So you see this hill behind me it doesn't look 585 00:31:04,696 --> 00:31:05,822 like it's that tall, right? 586 00:31:06,114 --> 00:31:09,451 It's maybe like 40, 50 feet, just climbing up this hill. 587 00:31:09,743 --> 00:31:12,788 I felt like I was about to die, I could not breathe. 588 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,083 We're at about 10,150 feet or so. 589 00:31:16,375 --> 00:31:17,876 There's just not much oxygen up here. 590 00:31:18,168 --> 00:31:21,505 But I can say I'm loving it, it's beautiful out here. 591 00:31:23,548 --> 00:31:25,759 - Throughout day two, Joe seemed to be coughing 592 00:31:26,718 --> 00:31:30,097 and falling behind, which is not typical Joe, 593 00:31:30,389 --> 00:31:32,224 he's usually near or at the lead. 594 00:31:32,516 --> 00:31:33,809 So we were all kind of concerned to see 595 00:31:34,101 --> 00:31:37,104 what was going on there but it didn't seem like too big 596 00:31:37,396 --> 00:31:40,565 of a deal 'cause his spirits were still pretty good. 597 00:31:40,857 --> 00:31:43,110 - We continue to gradually climb all day 598 00:31:43,402 --> 00:31:45,278 as we were approaching the High Uintas. 599 00:31:45,570 --> 00:31:48,949 We had a GPS file that we used, it was on our phone 600 00:31:49,241 --> 00:31:50,200 and it would have been tough to get 601 00:31:50,492 --> 00:31:52,035 through that area without that. 602 00:31:52,327 --> 00:31:53,995 - The trail was still mostly non existent 603 00:31:54,287 --> 00:31:59,126 We were just following cairns and blazes on the trees. 604 00:31:59,418 --> 00:32:00,752 - So it's hailing out a little bit, 605 00:32:01,044 --> 00:32:02,295 hoping it doesn't start raining. 606 00:32:02,587 --> 00:32:04,089 We found this nice little spot to relax 607 00:32:04,381 --> 00:32:08,051 under the pine tree here while we wait, have a little snack. 608 00:32:08,343 --> 00:32:11,847 Hopefully it'll just blow by without raining too hard. 609 00:32:12,305 --> 00:32:14,516 It's dripping on me, but that's about it right now. 610 00:32:16,309 --> 00:32:19,104 (upbeat music) 611 00:32:31,324 --> 00:32:34,453 - During the first 20 some odd miles as you're approaching 612 00:32:34,744 --> 00:32:36,163 the High Uintas there's really 613 00:32:36,455 --> 00:32:39,082 not many opportunities to get water. 614 00:32:39,374 --> 00:32:41,877 - We stumbled across some water 615 00:32:42,169 --> 00:32:43,670 that may have been questionable. 616 00:32:43,962 --> 00:32:47,048 It seemed like there was a lot of cow activity in the area. 617 00:32:47,549 --> 00:32:51,136 And the water tasted reminiscent of that activity. 618 00:32:51,428 --> 00:32:53,180 - It looked like cows had done nothing 619 00:32:53,472 --> 00:32:57,184 but pee and poop in this thing for like years. 620 00:32:57,476 --> 00:32:59,102 - It was pretty disgusting. 621 00:32:59,394 --> 00:33:03,273 - It was kind of gross and kind of yellowish brown color. 622 00:33:03,565 --> 00:33:05,192 - You know cow poop water is not 623 00:33:05,484 --> 00:33:08,069 your first choice, I don't think. 624 00:33:08,361 --> 00:33:10,363 - There really wasn't any water that day on trail, 625 00:33:10,655 --> 00:33:12,532 other than that, so we just did our best 626 00:33:12,824 --> 00:33:14,701 to filter and scoop from there. 627 00:33:14,993 --> 00:33:17,204 I don't think I filtered it but I did, I did boil it 628 00:33:17,496 --> 00:33:19,206 and cook with that water, it was all right. 629 00:33:19,498 --> 00:33:21,833 It wasn't the worst water I've ever had. 630 00:33:22,125 --> 00:33:25,128 (birds chirping) 631 00:33:29,382 --> 00:33:30,842 - The High line Trail does cross 632 00:33:31,134 --> 00:33:33,887 what was the historic Carter Military Road. 633 00:33:34,179 --> 00:33:35,931 The Carter Military Road is named 634 00:33:36,556 --> 00:33:38,016 after this guy named Judge Carter. 635 00:33:38,308 --> 00:33:40,644 He was a veteran of the Seminole Wars down in Florida. 636 00:33:42,270 --> 00:33:44,648 He was out of the Fort Bridger Area, he was a sutler, 637 00:33:45,357 --> 00:33:46,233 which is the guy who supplies 638 00:33:46,525 --> 00:33:48,026 the army with all their equipment. 639 00:33:49,069 --> 00:33:50,946 It was a fairly lucrative business 640 00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:52,405 that he got through a friend of his. 641 00:33:54,449 --> 00:33:56,409 With the advent of the transcontinental railroad 642 00:33:56,743 --> 00:33:59,079 making access to the west a lot easier. 643 00:33:59,371 --> 00:34:00,872 And Fort Bridger being a nexus of things 644 00:34:01,164 --> 00:34:04,084 and you had all the settlement in the Uinta Basin, 645 00:34:04,376 --> 00:34:08,755 encroaching on what was also designated in 1861 646 00:34:09,047 --> 00:34:10,590 as the Uintah Ouray Reservation. 647 00:34:11,550 --> 00:34:13,635 (tense music) 648 00:34:13,927 --> 00:34:16,096 So there was back and forth between a lot 649 00:34:16,388 --> 00:34:17,264 of the Native Americans and the settlers. 650 00:34:17,556 --> 00:34:20,767 So it obviously had a serious impact on the Ute folks, 651 00:34:21,059 --> 00:34:22,561 all three bands that are now on the reservation, 652 00:34:22,852 --> 00:34:26,481 two of them from Colorado that were forcibly removed. 653 00:34:26,773 --> 00:34:29,276 (Tense music) 654 00:34:29,568 --> 00:34:31,319 The Battle of Little Bighorn, also known as 655 00:34:31,611 --> 00:34:32,279 Custer's Last Stand 656 00:34:32,571 --> 00:34:34,573 is when basically the Seventh Cavalry was decimated 657 00:34:34,864 --> 00:34:37,284 by a fairly large conflagration of a bunch 658 00:34:37,576 --> 00:34:39,286 of different bands of Native Americans. 659 00:34:39,578 --> 00:34:42,080 And that was the first real defeat that the army 660 00:34:42,372 --> 00:34:44,332 had suffered at the hands of the Native Americans. 661 00:34:44,624 --> 00:34:48,503 So that of course sparked a lot of fear among settlers 662 00:34:48,795 --> 00:34:51,798 that they would be next if the army couldn't protect them. 663 00:34:52,090 --> 00:34:54,467 Of course there was mistrust on both sides. 664 00:34:56,511 --> 00:34:58,805 In the Uinta Basin after the Ute's were forcibly 665 00:34:59,389 --> 00:35:01,349 put on the reservation, the local settlers, 666 00:35:01,683 --> 00:35:03,977 white settlers wanted protection and petitioned 667 00:35:04,269 --> 00:35:05,645 to have a military encampment there. 668 00:35:05,937 --> 00:35:08,398 So military Fort Thornburgh was created. 669 00:35:09,608 --> 00:35:12,319 In order to connect the Uintah Basin with Fort Bridger 670 00:35:12,652 --> 00:35:15,572 and Carter, of course, probably for his own elevation 671 00:35:15,864 --> 00:35:18,325 on the fact that he could supply two military forts. 672 00:35:18,617 --> 00:35:22,829 Had this road made that crossed the Uintas. 673 00:35:23,121 --> 00:35:26,082 (birds chirping) 674 00:35:41,389 --> 00:35:44,351 - Good day hiking today, stayed hydrated, 675 00:35:44,643 --> 00:35:49,689 and there's the raw water out of this little puddle. 676 00:35:49,981 --> 00:35:51,316 That's not even really a stream. 677 00:35:51,941 --> 00:35:55,362 Probably moving very slowly, you had to dip. 678 00:35:55,654 --> 00:35:59,199 And then this is it, filtered, it's got a little red tint 679 00:35:59,491 --> 00:36:00,408 to it from the Kool Aid. 680 00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:04,579 So here we are set up I'm right in direct line of the sun. 681 00:36:04,871 --> 00:36:09,167 Somehow Joe always gets the best spot, so, 682 00:36:09,459 --> 00:36:11,169 that's why I'm here. 683 00:36:12,796 --> 00:36:14,506 - Well, we did about 684 00:36:16,091 --> 00:36:18,802 We got hailed on just a little, bit got sprinkled on 685 00:36:19,135 --> 00:36:21,304 just a little bit, nothing to get us wet. 686 00:36:21,596 --> 00:36:23,682 Matt says it's about three miles to the next potential 687 00:36:23,973 --> 00:36:26,393 water source, it should be all right. 688 00:36:26,685 --> 00:36:29,354 (soft music) 689 00:36:53,086 --> 00:36:53,712 - Good morning 690 00:36:54,003 --> 00:36:56,256 - Well we had a little stormed kind of just kind 691 00:36:56,589 --> 00:36:58,550 of glanced us a little bit not too bad. 692 00:36:58,925 --> 00:37:01,720 The lightning was pretty dang bright. 693 00:37:02,011 --> 00:37:06,015 I almost had to crawl way up underneath my sleeping bag 694 00:37:06,307 --> 00:37:08,435 to kind of block a little bit of that out 695 00:37:08,727 --> 00:37:10,603 but besides that I slept great. 696 00:37:10,895 --> 00:37:13,064 Just love being out in the wilderness. 697 00:37:13,356 --> 00:37:14,357 Just something peaceful about it. 698 00:37:14,649 --> 00:37:17,444 You can just sleep forever but time to wake up, 699 00:37:17,736 --> 00:37:20,029 time to get going and we got miles to do. 700 00:37:20,697 --> 00:37:22,657 (upbeat music) 701 00:37:25,618 --> 00:37:27,996 - I got a nice rolling boil to get all 702 00:37:28,288 --> 00:37:29,998 the crap out of there just in case. 703 00:37:30,290 --> 00:37:32,083 - You gotta do that for about 10 minutes. 704 00:37:32,375 --> 00:37:34,544 - No, you gotta do it for like 60 seconds. 705 00:37:35,587 --> 00:37:38,089 - That's why your kind died off. 706 00:37:38,715 --> 00:37:40,467 (laughing) 707 00:37:44,637 --> 00:37:46,890 - I get blisters because I have a narrow heel 708 00:37:47,766 --> 00:37:50,769 and it slips up and down in a shoe 709 00:37:51,269 --> 00:37:53,480 and I get a blister no matter what I do. 710 00:37:54,606 --> 00:37:57,275 So this is a product made for hiking. 711 00:37:59,152 --> 00:38:02,030 If I don't put enough, I'll still get a blister. 712 00:38:02,781 --> 00:38:04,616 (laughing) 713 00:38:04,949 --> 00:38:05,950 - You should put honey on there. 714 00:38:06,493 --> 00:38:07,994 Put honey all over your feet. 715 00:38:08,411 --> 00:38:10,580 - Have you ever thought about that 716 00:38:11,206 --> 00:38:12,665 You're not the star of this film. 717 00:38:12,957 --> 00:38:14,793 (laughing) 718 00:38:15,084 --> 00:38:17,670 So stop trying to horn in on my time. 719 00:38:18,505 --> 00:38:20,089 (soft music) 720 00:38:28,014 --> 00:38:30,600 - Today's day three, we're gonna be venturing out 721 00:38:30,892 --> 00:38:32,769 of the forest into some of the higher mountains 722 00:38:33,061 --> 00:38:35,688 above treeline, we're gonna start hitting a bunch 723 00:38:35,980 --> 00:38:37,440 of lakes and streams and that water 724 00:38:37,774 --> 00:38:40,193 shouldn't be an issue going forward. 725 00:38:40,485 --> 00:38:41,945 It's only 10.7 miles today. 726 00:38:42,237 --> 00:38:45,114 But we have a 700 more feet of elevation gain 727 00:38:45,406 --> 00:38:46,032 than we did yesterday. 728 00:38:46,324 --> 00:38:48,451 So 2300 feet in total, which still isn't that bad, 729 00:38:48,743 --> 00:38:51,329 but elevation gonna still get you winded. 730 00:38:51,621 --> 00:38:56,292 - So as we were going down the trail, animals ran across it. 731 00:38:56,584 --> 00:38:59,337 - I was in front of everybody and off in the distance 732 00:38:59,629 --> 00:39:02,715 I saw what appeared to be full grown moose. 733 00:39:03,007 --> 00:39:05,677 - I saw it first, Will is gonna probably dispute that, 734 00:39:05,969 --> 00:39:08,513 but I'm like, look, look at the elk, look at the moose. 735 00:39:08,805 --> 00:39:10,974 I called them moose and the big dispute arose 736 00:39:11,266 --> 00:39:14,018 from that because Joe said "Those aren't moose” 737 00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:16,938 He and Will went into a big argument 738 00:39:17,230 --> 00:39:19,065 for about three days on this. 739 00:39:19,357 --> 00:39:19,858 - They had white butts, 740 00:39:20,149 --> 00:39:21,901 I've never seen a moose with a white butt. 741 00:39:22,193 --> 00:39:22,819 - I'm pretty certain they were moose. 742 00:39:23,695 --> 00:39:25,280 I'm gonna go ahead and stick with that. 743 00:39:25,572 --> 00:39:29,200 - We were heading towards a peak called Leidy Peak. 744 00:39:29,742 --> 00:39:31,369 And it was the first time 745 00:39:31,661 --> 00:39:32,704 that we were gonna go above treeline. 746 00:39:34,289 --> 00:39:37,876 - It's just so mind boggling, looking up at a mountain. 747 00:39:38,751 --> 00:39:40,503 It looks like it's just right there. 748 00:39:40,837 --> 00:39:44,757 When you get up on top of it, it's extremely high. 749 00:39:45,049 --> 00:39:46,968 It's just so hard to get the scale. 750 00:39:47,844 --> 00:39:51,681 But we climb up Leidy Peak, we get some cell phone service. 751 00:39:52,056 --> 00:39:53,600 Everybody's on their phones. 752 00:39:53,892 --> 00:39:55,935 - And I don't think anybody was really 753 00:39:56,477 --> 00:39:58,521 paying much attention to the sky. 754 00:39:58,813 --> 00:40:01,024 - We're all standing around taking pictures and I'm looking 755 00:40:01,316 --> 00:40:04,027 around thinking, I don't wanna be up here. 756 00:40:04,319 --> 00:40:05,695 This isn't looking good. 757 00:40:08,781 --> 00:40:13,620 That was a moment that I thought, sure enough... 758 00:40:13,912 --> 00:40:15,580 Okay this is where I die 759 00:40:16,789 --> 00:40:18,791 - A lightning strike got really close. 760 00:40:19,083 --> 00:40:20,418 Everybody freaked out. 761 00:40:20,710 --> 00:40:21,294 Right as we were at the high point, 762 00:40:21,794 --> 00:40:25,256 this thunderstorm just opened up and started hailing on us 763 00:40:25,548 --> 00:40:27,842 and lightning started striking all over the place. 764 00:40:28,134 --> 00:40:29,677 -There's a lightning storm right there, 765 00:40:29,969 --> 00:40:32,597 but there's not really anywhere to go. 766 00:40:32,889 --> 00:40:33,556 Except right down here. 767 00:40:33,848 --> 00:40:35,767 - And it was like a mad rush to get 768 00:40:36,059 --> 00:40:37,435 back down to the tree line. 769 00:40:37,727 --> 00:40:40,480 So we don't get burned into a crispy critter 770 00:40:40,813 --> 00:40:42,357 from a lightning bolt. 771 00:40:42,649 --> 00:40:43,316 - I owe Matt $20 bucks because it said 772 00:40:43,816 --> 00:40:46,277 it was gonna hail every day, I thought he was lying. 773 00:40:47,987 --> 00:40:49,030 - He was not lying. 774 00:40:51,699 --> 00:40:53,534 - Some hail hit me in a sensitive part. 775 00:40:53,910 --> 00:40:56,663 You can say, that wasn't so much fun. 776 00:40:56,955 --> 00:40:58,247 (screaming) 777 00:41:11,469 --> 00:41:14,514 - Once we made it down into the forest, it was pelting us. 778 00:41:15,473 --> 00:41:18,309 And the lightning was crashing right above us. 779 00:41:20,895 --> 00:41:23,439 I look over at Steve and he's got his cell phone up. 780 00:41:23,856 --> 00:41:26,150 And he was looking at a picture. 781 00:41:26,442 --> 00:41:27,986 And he turned his phone towards me 782 00:41:28,277 --> 00:41:30,071 and was like, look at my girlfriend. 783 00:41:30,405 --> 00:41:31,114 Isn't she beautiful? 784 00:41:31,489 --> 00:41:34,993 And I was like, damn. 785 00:41:36,035 --> 00:41:37,870 It was definitely a Steve moment. 786 00:41:38,162 --> 00:41:39,372 That's what I love about Steve. 787 00:41:39,664 --> 00:41:41,374 He wasn't even thinking about the lightning 788 00:41:41,666 --> 00:41:43,710 or the danger that he was in, he didn't care. 789 00:41:44,002 --> 00:41:47,213 He was just thinking about his girlfriend. 790 00:41:47,505 --> 00:41:48,923 (soft music) 791 00:41:51,509 --> 00:41:54,470 - Everyone scattered and we all got into cover 792 00:41:55,013 --> 00:41:56,305 and back into the tree line. 793 00:41:57,015 --> 00:42:00,893 So that cell exhausted itself and went away 794 00:42:01,185 --> 00:42:04,772 and we gathered up and got a game plan together. 795 00:42:05,064 --> 00:42:07,734 We pulled up the weather radar, 796 00:42:08,026 --> 00:42:10,737 and it showed another big cell just coming our way. 797 00:42:11,029 --> 00:42:13,740 So we got back down into the tree line 798 00:42:14,032 --> 00:42:17,160 just to be protected from any lightning strikes. 799 00:42:19,620 --> 00:42:22,874 So we're waiting it out, better be safe than sorry. 800 00:42:24,083 --> 00:42:26,002 - We wrote out like two waves 801 00:42:26,419 --> 00:42:28,129 of storms until the weather clear. 802 00:42:28,421 --> 00:42:31,758 - That was the end of our first real hail lightning storm. 803 00:42:32,050 --> 00:42:34,677 But then we didn't have cell phone service after that. 804 00:42:35,053 --> 00:42:38,890 - I didn't die there, so that's good, I'm still here. 805 00:42:39,182 --> 00:42:39,766 To hike another day. 806 00:42:40,058 --> 00:42:42,852 - That was probably the most fun part of the trip, for me. 807 00:42:43,144 --> 00:42:44,896 It was the only part when I forgot that everything hurt 808 00:42:45,188 --> 00:42:46,064 and that I couldn't breathe. 809 00:42:48,399 --> 00:42:51,069 - We reached the top of the plateau there, 810 00:42:51,444 --> 00:42:55,615 close to 11,000 feet, and it was like walking in a field. 811 00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:58,826 But on top of a mountain, I would say kind of like 812 00:42:59,118 --> 00:43:00,703 The Highlands or something maybe 813 00:43:00,995 --> 00:43:03,206 that you would imagine in Scotland. 814 00:43:03,498 --> 00:43:04,999 (upbeat music) 815 00:43:05,291 --> 00:43:08,252 - One of the really cool aspects of the Uintas is really 816 00:43:08,544 --> 00:43:10,838 they're a monument to 19th century science. 817 00:43:11,214 --> 00:43:13,132 The Uintas kind of formed a sort of a crossroads 818 00:43:13,424 --> 00:43:16,010 of what they used to call the great surveys of the West. 819 00:43:16,302 --> 00:43:19,097 You had the Hayden survey, the Clarence King survey 820 00:43:19,388 --> 00:43:22,475 that came out of California, John Wesley Powell, 821 00:43:22,975 --> 00:43:24,310 and they all kind of converged on the Uintas 822 00:43:24,602 --> 00:43:26,354 at about the same time at about 1870. 823 00:43:27,355 --> 00:43:30,650 They mapped the geology and they had paleontologists in toe. 824 00:43:30,983 --> 00:43:32,610 So if you look at a lot of the peaks, 825 00:43:32,902 --> 00:43:34,946 they're named after naturalist, geologists, 826 00:43:35,238 --> 00:43:38,658 explorers, surveyors, and paleontologists. 827 00:43:38,991 --> 00:43:40,785 (soft music) 828 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,078 - So you have Untermann Peak. 829 00:43:43,287 --> 00:43:44,831 Untermann was well known for doing some 830 00:43:45,123 --> 00:43:46,958 of the early renditions of both dinosaurs 831 00:43:47,250 --> 00:43:49,335 and some of the early mammals and trying to make them 832 00:43:49,627 --> 00:43:51,629 lifelike and sort of bring them to life for the public, 833 00:43:51,921 --> 00:43:55,299 translating that from the bone to the actual animal itself. 834 00:43:58,386 --> 00:44:00,263 Leidy was sort of a gentleman scholar, 835 00:44:00,638 --> 00:44:02,849 also the father of Vertebrate Paleontology. 836 00:44:03,141 --> 00:44:04,976 So there's a peak named after him. 837 00:44:05,268 --> 00:44:06,352 He was one of the foremost 838 00:44:06,644 --> 00:44:09,188 paleontologists in the 19th century. 839 00:44:09,522 --> 00:44:09,939 (soft music) 840 00:44:14,068 --> 00:44:16,654 Marsh Peak is named after Othniel Marsh, 841 00:44:17,029 --> 00:44:19,991 A fairly famous sort of paleontological war took place 842 00:44:20,283 --> 00:44:23,244 between Othniel Marsh and Edward Drinker Cope. 843 00:44:23,536 --> 00:44:25,788 Marsh was associated with Yale, Cope was attached 844 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,374 to the Hayden Survey for a while, and they were battling 845 00:44:28,666 --> 00:44:30,251 over the fossil fields of the West 846 00:44:30,543 --> 00:44:32,211 It was sensational enough 847 00:44:32,503 --> 00:44:34,755 that they basically warred with each other in the papers. 848 00:44:35,965 --> 00:44:38,301 When it started off Cope was in New Jersey and was actually 849 00:44:38,634 --> 00:44:40,595 getting some fossils from a rock quarry. 850 00:44:42,096 --> 00:44:44,265 Paleontologists would team up with rock quarriers 851 00:44:44,557 --> 00:44:46,475 and people that were miners and things like that 852 00:44:46,767 --> 00:44:48,102 and as they would come across things, 853 00:44:48,394 --> 00:44:50,354 they would then relate them to the paleontologists 854 00:44:50,646 --> 00:44:52,899 and that's how they would get a lot of their specimens. 855 00:44:55,610 --> 00:44:57,737 So Cope was down there and he was using this one quarry 856 00:44:58,070 --> 00:44:59,614 and he invited Marsh down to check it out. 857 00:44:59,989 --> 00:45:02,116 And then by the time he left, he didn't realize Marsh 858 00:45:02,408 --> 00:45:03,784 made deal with these guys and they started 859 00:45:04,118 --> 00:45:05,453 sending all the fossils to him. 860 00:45:05,912 --> 00:45:07,580 So basically these guys were constantly 861 00:45:07,872 --> 00:45:08,623 scooping each other's finds. 862 00:45:08,915 --> 00:45:11,918 So that of course put them at odds very early on. 863 00:45:12,210 --> 00:45:14,003 (old time music) 864 00:45:16,631 --> 00:45:18,174 With the transcontinental railroad, 865 00:45:18,466 --> 00:45:20,218 access and logistics are a lot easier. 866 00:45:20,509 --> 00:45:22,428 So once that sort of opened up, and everybody knew 867 00:45:22,970 --> 00:45:23,930 about the fossil fields of the West, 868 00:45:24,222 --> 00:45:26,933 it was almost like a gold rush but for paleontology. 869 00:45:27,225 --> 00:45:28,935 So these guys were always kind of trying to stake 870 00:45:29,227 --> 00:45:32,688 out claims, and then claim jumping each other's claims 871 00:45:32,980 --> 00:45:35,233 and then every time they would find something, 872 00:45:35,524 --> 00:45:36,150 they would rush into print 873 00:45:36,442 --> 00:45:38,361 so that they would be the ones to name it. 874 00:45:38,653 --> 00:45:39,737 And then trying to one up the other guy. 875 00:45:40,029 --> 00:45:41,739 That's why you would have maybe say something like, 876 00:45:42,031 --> 00:45:44,867 the Uintatherium it might have five different names, 877 00:45:45,159 --> 00:45:46,953 by the time it gets published, 'cause everybody's 878 00:45:47,245 --> 00:45:49,038 finding them and then naming them themselves. 879 00:45:50,748 --> 00:45:53,751 Marsh kind of had more the financial backing that he kind 880 00:45:54,085 --> 00:45:56,379 of pushed Cope out in a lot of ways while Cope 881 00:45:56,671 --> 00:45:58,130 was still able to find hundreds 882 00:45:58,422 --> 00:46:01,342 of different fossils and fossil fields. 883 00:46:01,634 --> 00:46:03,636 (old time music) 884 00:46:03,928 --> 00:46:05,930 Another big bash against Cope was, 885 00:46:06,222 --> 00:46:07,723 Cope had sort of a Plesiosaur, 886 00:46:08,015 --> 00:46:10,351 and he had mounted the head on the wrong end. 887 00:46:10,643 --> 00:46:12,645 So Marsh got a lot of traction out of basically trying 888 00:46:12,937 --> 00:46:14,939 to make fun of him and saying didn't know what he was doing. 889 00:46:15,231 --> 00:46:17,900 But then of course, Marsh is also famous for creating 890 00:46:18,192 --> 00:46:19,318 a Brontosaurus by putting 891 00:46:19,610 --> 00:46:20,987 the wrong skull on the wrong skeleton. 892 00:46:23,447 --> 00:46:25,783 Leidy was so disgusted with the whole Marsh and Cope war, 893 00:46:26,158 --> 00:46:28,202 going back and forth that he actually kind of bagged 894 00:46:28,494 --> 00:46:30,579 out of it and stopped investigating in the West. 895 00:46:30,871 --> 00:46:33,749 But overall, this went on and on they both died 896 00:46:34,041 --> 00:46:34,959 about the same time. 897 00:46:35,251 --> 00:46:36,210 There really wasn't a winner in the end, 898 00:46:36,502 --> 00:46:38,587 but volumes have been written about these guys. 899 00:46:39,547 --> 00:46:41,299 Cope is still the most highly published 900 00:46:41,632 --> 00:46:42,883 scientists in American history. 901 00:46:43,175 --> 00:46:45,136 In fact, actually what we've been talking about recently 902 00:46:45,428 --> 00:46:47,847 is even trying to nominate one of the peaks 903 00:46:48,139 --> 00:46:50,057 to be named after Edward Drinker Cope. 904 00:46:57,189 --> 00:46:57,815 (soft music) 905 00:46:58,107 --> 00:47:02,653 - Our first pass on this great hike was Gabbro Pass. 906 00:47:02,945 --> 00:47:06,824 And once again, you just can't get the scale you're looking 907 00:47:07,199 --> 00:47:11,912 at it going, how am I gonna hike over that? 908 00:47:12,204 --> 00:47:14,248 - Like most of the passes on this trail, 909 00:47:14,540 --> 00:47:18,044 it was a pretty vertical climb, it was Rocky. 910 00:47:18,336 --> 00:47:20,254 But for me the passes are my favorite part. 911 00:47:20,546 --> 00:47:23,382 So maybe some people dread them because it's a hard climb. 912 00:47:23,716 --> 00:47:26,761 But with each step that you take, every time you turn 913 00:47:27,053 --> 00:47:31,265 around and look back, the view just gets more spectacular. 914 00:47:31,974 --> 00:47:35,019 (soft music) 915 00:47:37,605 --> 00:47:40,733 - It was just gorgeous, just beautiful. 916 00:47:43,652 --> 00:47:46,405 - Gabbro Pass was really our first experience of what 917 00:47:46,781 --> 00:47:50,034 the next few days were gonna be like for us on this trail. 918 00:47:58,626 --> 00:48:02,797 - We ended up down at Dead man's Lake, not really a name 919 00:48:03,089 --> 00:48:04,548 of a lake you wanna be hanging out at, 920 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,051 especially after nearly getting struck 921 00:48:07,343 --> 00:48:08,803 by lightning like multiple times. 922 00:48:11,305 --> 00:48:14,683 - Dead man Lake is named after the unfortunate body 923 00:48:15,267 --> 00:48:16,769 of a prospector that was found there 924 00:48:17,061 --> 00:48:18,479 by a couple of individuals later. 925 00:48:18,771 --> 00:48:21,607 The north slope is known to have fairly harsh winters. 926 00:48:21,899 --> 00:48:23,859 Even today, we lose people in the Uintas. 927 00:48:24,151 --> 00:48:27,113 So the idea that this prospector could be up there and run 928 00:48:27,405 --> 00:48:30,116 afoul especially, you know, back in the early days, 929 00:48:30,408 --> 00:48:31,492 when you don't have all the fancy 930 00:48:31,784 --> 00:48:32,993 equipment that we have now. 931 00:48:33,285 --> 00:48:36,122 It's pretty status quo back then you're really taking 932 00:48:36,414 --> 00:48:37,123 your life in your hands, 933 00:48:37,415 --> 00:48:39,166 especially as an individual going in there. 934 00:48:39,458 --> 00:48:41,252 It's an undertaking now, but to do it, 935 00:48:41,544 --> 00:48:44,004 say in the 1870s, or 80s, or 90s. 936 00:48:44,296 --> 00:48:46,382 It's a whole different ball of wax. 937 00:48:46,674 --> 00:48:49,218 (soft music) 938 00:48:55,599 --> 00:48:58,227 (coughing) 939 00:49:17,496 --> 00:49:19,165 - Today was probably one of the most eventful days 940 00:49:19,457 --> 00:49:21,500 of hiking I've had, it started off pretty normal 941 00:49:21,792 --> 00:49:25,963 and pretty awesome and then some crazy storms rolled in. 942 00:49:26,255 --> 00:49:29,049 I almost got hit by lightning, then it started to hail, 943 00:49:29,341 --> 00:49:31,635 which was kind of good because I won my bet with Joe 944 00:49:31,927 --> 00:49:32,636 that it would hail at least three times. 945 00:49:33,429 --> 00:49:35,806 So Ill won 20 bucks and then promptly a piece of hail 946 00:49:36,098 --> 00:49:40,853 struck me in my genitalia, which was pretty not awesome. 947 00:49:41,145 --> 00:49:44,106 But, it's funny now but wasn't really funny at the time. 948 00:49:44,398 --> 00:49:47,151 I haven't even looked, it could be bruised, who knows. 949 00:49:49,195 --> 00:49:50,946 - I feel like today was the first 950 00:49:51,363 --> 00:49:54,200 real day of hiking. After the storms past. 951 00:49:54,492 --> 00:49:57,203 It was beautiful and it felt like a ton of climbing. 952 00:49:57,495 --> 00:50:01,040 It was only supposed to be 2300 feet, but it felt like more. 953 00:50:01,332 --> 00:50:02,333 So it's a beautiful day. 954 00:50:02,625 --> 00:50:04,627 We're here at this beautiful pond tonight 955 00:50:04,919 --> 00:50:08,047 and we're gonna get some good rest 'cause tomorrow 956 00:50:08,339 --> 00:50:09,673 we've got it again, we got 12 miles 957 00:50:09,965 --> 00:50:12,134 and we're gonna probably be going over a couple passes. 958 00:50:16,722 --> 00:50:19,308 (soft music) 959 00:50:40,412 --> 00:50:44,083 - My name is Matt, I work for a backpacking company. 960 00:50:44,375 --> 00:50:45,459 I love to travel. 961 00:50:45,751 --> 00:50:48,170 I love my family and I love backpacking, 962 00:50:48,462 --> 00:50:51,257 and I love it when I can incorporate all three together. 963 00:50:53,008 --> 00:50:55,135 - The best way I can describe Matt, 964 00:50:55,511 --> 00:50:57,346 he lives his life with integrity. 965 00:50:57,638 --> 00:50:59,515 He makes it a point. 966 00:51:00,099 --> 00:51:03,227 He is really dedicated to his family. 967 00:51:04,770 --> 00:51:08,065 And that speaks to me, those two things speak volumes to me. 968 00:51:09,733 --> 00:51:11,235 I would say when it comes down to it, 969 00:51:11,610 --> 00:51:16,282 me and Matt are probably the two most alike people, 970 00:51:16,574 --> 00:51:19,285 even though we come from totally different backgrounds. 971 00:51:19,577 --> 00:51:22,580 - Growing up, I was a little explorer. 972 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,207 I was always spending time in the woods. 973 00:51:25,499 --> 00:51:28,669 I was always building forts, going farther than my mom 974 00:51:28,961 --> 00:51:31,922 would like on my bike or my skateboard. 975 00:51:32,214 --> 00:51:32,840 I grew up with a single mother, 976 00:51:33,132 --> 00:51:37,052 so I never really got the chance to travel or go anywhere. 977 00:51:37,344 --> 00:51:39,305 As I grew up, like after high school, I was in a band 978 00:51:39,597 --> 00:51:42,433 and I used that as an opportunity to explore the country, 979 00:51:42,725 --> 00:51:45,394 go on tour, see places I'd never been before. 980 00:51:45,686 --> 00:51:48,105 And I learned through those experiences 981 00:51:48,397 --> 00:51:51,775 how valuable travel really was to me. 982 00:51:52,067 --> 00:51:54,153 - He was a singer in a heavy metal band. 983 00:51:54,445 --> 00:51:56,363 He's tattooed from head to toe. 984 00:51:56,655 --> 00:51:59,992 He's never been high, he's never been drunk, 985 00:52:00,284 --> 00:52:02,494 and his memory is like a steel trap. 986 00:52:02,786 --> 00:52:07,499 He will pull names and dates out of his memory. 987 00:52:07,791 --> 00:52:09,668 And you wonder, where does this come from? 988 00:52:10,502 --> 00:52:12,338 - Matt was the person that I instantly 989 00:52:12,630 --> 00:52:14,798 connected with when I met him. 990 00:52:15,090 --> 00:52:16,342 He's a fun guy to be around. 991 00:52:16,634 --> 00:52:21,096 On the trail, he's all for hiking 30 miles without breaking 992 00:52:21,388 --> 00:52:23,390 and it's hard sometimes to keep up with him. 993 00:52:24,642 --> 00:52:26,977 - My name's Kim Favero, I'm married to Matt. 994 00:52:27,353 --> 00:52:29,521 I'm a cardiovascular specialist. 995 00:52:29,855 --> 00:52:31,649 I met Matt on MySpace. 996 00:52:32,858 --> 00:52:34,151 He tells me he was impressed with my picture 997 00:52:34,485 --> 00:52:38,864 'cause I was pretending to lick Borat on like a bus stop 998 00:52:39,198 --> 00:52:40,491 promotion for the movie. 999 00:52:40,866 --> 00:52:42,910 So that was enough to reel him in I guess. 1000 00:52:43,911 --> 00:52:46,372 - And 11 months later, we were married. 1001 00:52:46,664 --> 00:52:48,248 On my honeymoon, we stumbled across 1002 00:52:48,540 --> 00:52:50,334 this trail in Canada and we just decided 1003 00:52:50,626 --> 00:52:54,713 to walk down it and about 15 minutes in, I was in heaven. 1004 00:52:55,005 --> 00:52:57,841 It was the first time I'd been in the woods in so long, 1005 00:52:58,175 --> 00:53:01,136 ever since that day man, it led me to my job. 1006 00:53:01,720 --> 00:53:03,430 It led me to so many adventures. 1007 00:53:03,764 --> 00:53:06,100 Every time I go into the woods, I just wanna go back. 1008 00:53:09,269 --> 00:53:10,312 -When I married Matt, 1009 00:53:10,729 --> 00:53:12,523 I knew that it wasn't gonna be boring. 1010 00:53:12,940 --> 00:53:14,775 I knew it was gonna be an adventure. 1011 00:53:15,150 --> 00:53:15,859 I knew that for sure. 1012 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:17,653 (upbeat music) 1013 00:53:18,153 --> 00:53:19,405 Matt's crazy passionate 1014 00:53:19,697 --> 00:53:22,116 about everything he does, just unconventional. 1015 00:53:22,408 --> 00:53:25,703 I can just list off so many weird things he does. 1016 00:53:25,994 --> 00:53:26,662 He was in a band. 1017 00:53:26,954 --> 00:53:29,832 - Matt's a good organizer of everything really. 1018 00:53:30,124 --> 00:53:33,585 -He did AM radio show. 1019 00:53:33,877 --> 00:53:35,087 - He plans most of our hikes. 1020 00:53:35,379 --> 00:53:37,965 - He was running all night scavenger hunt game. 1021 00:53:38,257 --> 00:53:41,427 - He also for a while was running a soccer club. 1022 00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:42,302 - He made t-shirts. 1023 00:53:42,594 --> 00:53:45,431 He did screen printing till like four in the morning once. 1024 00:53:45,723 --> 00:53:46,098 - That's what Matt does. 1025 00:53:46,598 --> 00:53:49,226 He finds people and gets them together to do things. 1026 00:53:49,518 --> 00:53:50,602 - People tolerate him pretty well. 1027 00:53:51,061 --> 00:53:52,771 (laughing) 1028 00:53:53,605 --> 00:53:55,566 (soft music) 1029 00:54:02,156 --> 00:54:03,824 - My family came to be, 1030 00:54:04,116 --> 00:54:07,619 again in true Favero fashion very unconventionally. 1031 00:54:07,911 --> 00:54:13,000 And I think at the time, we were talking about having kids, 1032 00:54:13,292 --> 00:54:15,002 and then we stopped talking about it 1033 00:54:15,502 --> 00:54:18,881 because he had gotten laid off. 1034 00:54:19,173 --> 00:54:19,798 We moved in with my mom, 1035 00:54:20,090 --> 00:54:22,509 we just weren't really in the position at that time. 1036 00:54:23,510 --> 00:54:24,470 And then I got pregnant. 1037 00:54:27,055 --> 00:54:30,100 -So in 2010, my wife and I were working out of our garage, 1038 00:54:30,476 --> 00:54:32,269 we were still building everything ourselves. 1039 00:54:32,644 --> 00:54:33,479 It was getting to the point 1040 00:54:33,771 --> 00:54:35,105 where we couldn't keep up with demand. 1041 00:54:35,522 --> 00:54:39,485 As I got into backpacking, I stumbled across Joe's website, 1042 00:54:39,860 --> 00:54:41,820 and I noticed that Joe had moved 1043 00:54:42,112 --> 00:54:44,490 to the next city south of me Palm Bay. 1044 00:54:45,574 --> 00:54:47,117 - Matt emailed and asked if he could come over 1045 00:54:47,451 --> 00:54:48,368 and check out some gear. 1046 00:54:48,702 --> 00:54:52,247 So he came to our house to our garage, checked out some gear 1047 00:54:52,790 --> 00:54:55,000 and we talked, we ended up going out to lunch. 1048 00:54:55,292 --> 00:54:56,710 And basically we ended up extending him 1049 00:54:57,002 --> 00:54:58,921 an offer to be a seamster for us. 1050 00:54:59,213 --> 00:55:02,341 So he was our first first outside employee. 1051 00:55:02,633 --> 00:55:05,677 - We kind of just went with it and slowly got 1052 00:55:05,969 --> 00:55:07,888 our lives back together structurally. 1053 00:55:08,263 --> 00:55:11,475 And then Lu was born in 2010. 1054 00:55:12,976 --> 00:55:15,604 (soft music) 1055 00:55:19,817 --> 00:55:21,652 But then, a few weeks later, 1056 00:55:21,944 --> 00:55:23,654 we found out she had a serious heart defect. 1057 00:55:25,739 --> 00:55:28,033 - She had a couple holes in her heart and some other things. 1058 00:55:32,704 --> 00:55:34,164 (beeping) 1059 00:55:36,667 --> 00:55:38,919 - It was a really trying time for my wife and | 1060 00:55:39,211 --> 00:55:42,464 because we were broke at the time, 1061 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,133 our living situation wasn't the best. 1062 00:55:45,551 --> 00:55:48,428 And then we had this huge, horrible situation 1063 00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:51,723 with our daughter and through it, I was still able 1064 00:55:52,099 --> 00:55:56,770 to go on hikes, and it really helped me decompress. 1065 00:55:58,021 --> 00:56:00,774 For me hiking lets me get into a place in my mind 1066 00:56:01,149 --> 00:56:03,652 where I'm at peace with how I feel about things 1067 00:56:03,944 --> 00:56:05,946 that have happened and how I would feel 1068 00:56:06,321 --> 00:56:07,823 about things if they happened. 1069 00:56:08,240 --> 00:56:10,576 And going through a difficult situation 1070 00:56:10,868 --> 00:56:14,955 like that hiking really helped me stay strong. 1071 00:56:15,414 --> 00:56:17,541 (heart beating) 1072 00:56:53,911 --> 00:56:57,080 - From then on, she's just been everything. 1073 00:56:57,456 --> 00:56:59,249 She's guided us through everything 1074 00:56:59,625 --> 00:57:01,126 and everything has been for her. 1075 00:57:03,170 --> 00:57:05,339 - My trail name Champion. 1076 00:57:06,590 --> 00:57:08,634 I like to hike with my family. 1077 00:57:09,134 --> 00:57:12,804 The longest hike I've been on is Italy, France 1078 00:57:13,347 --> 00:57:15,849 and Switzerland. 100 miles. 1079 00:57:17,225 --> 00:57:22,689 I was the youngest kid that hiked it. In the world. 1080 00:57:23,106 --> 00:57:25,609 (soft music) 1081 00:57:55,180 --> 00:57:57,766 -The older I get, the more I realize life 1082 00:57:58,058 --> 00:57:59,351 isn't about obtaining possessions. 1083 00:57:59,643 --> 00:58:03,146 It's about obtaining experiences. What that translates 1084 00:58:03,438 --> 00:58:08,443 to with my family is traveling together and hiking together. 1085 00:58:08,819 --> 00:58:11,154 So the outdoors and hiking in general has become 1086 00:58:11,488 --> 00:58:13,365 an experience that we share to build 1087 00:58:13,699 --> 00:58:16,326 and foster our relationships with each other. 1088 00:58:17,244 --> 00:58:19,371 (heart beating) 1089 00:58:32,342 --> 00:58:35,429 (birds chirping) 1090 00:58:37,973 --> 00:58:41,727 - Well, now today is day four, just got off, 1091 00:58:42,019 --> 00:58:45,147 just got packed up, spent the whole night coughing 1092 00:58:45,439 --> 00:58:46,106 so that wasn't great. 1093 00:58:46,398 --> 00:58:48,734 We're meeting somebody and we're picking up 1094 00:58:49,026 --> 00:58:51,737 our food drop today, and we're gonna go from hardly 1095 00:58:52,029 --> 00:58:53,071 any food to a six days of food 1096 00:58:53,363 --> 00:58:54,114 and so that's gonna be fun too. 1097 00:58:54,406 --> 00:58:56,116 Oh, and then I guess we have like a bunch of passes 1098 00:58:56,408 --> 00:58:58,368 to go over with all our heavy food. 1099 00:58:58,660 --> 00:58:59,745 And we've got 13 miles today, 1100 00:59:00,037 --> 00:59:04,291 so it's gonna be a big day for us, so there's that. 1101 00:59:04,583 --> 00:59:05,751 (laughing) 1102 00:59:06,043 --> 00:59:08,837 (birds chirping) 1103 00:59:13,925 --> 00:59:16,511 - So we've been smelling smoke all morning. 1104 00:59:16,803 --> 00:59:17,471 And you can see in the distance 1105 00:59:17,763 --> 00:59:19,556 here that the sky is all hazy. 1106 00:59:19,848 --> 00:59:20,891 You can smell it pretty good here. 1107 00:59:21,183 --> 00:59:23,769 So we're wondering if there's fires nearby 1108 00:59:24,061 --> 00:59:24,978 or how far away it is. 1109 00:59:25,270 --> 00:59:27,105 Hopefully it's not gonna impact our route, 1110 00:59:27,397 --> 00:59:28,774 but you never know. 1111 00:59:29,066 --> 00:59:31,651 (soft music) 1112 00:59:35,155 --> 00:59:38,617 - One of the great things about this hike was the community 1113 00:59:38,909 --> 00:59:41,578 in the area, we actually had someone that was willing 1114 00:59:41,870 --> 00:59:45,791 to drive out there and bring us our resupply. 1115 00:59:46,083 --> 00:59:47,793 So this allowed us not have to carry 1116 00:59:48,085 --> 00:59:49,961 10 days worth of food from day one. 1117 00:59:50,253 --> 00:59:52,297 - And we appreciate the kindness. 1118 00:59:52,798 --> 00:59:56,635 Of the gentleman who did our resupply, a phenomenal guy. 1119 01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:01,765 - Cameramen down. 1120 01:00:02,849 --> 01:00:07,646 - There was a little unexpected event, we lost Gordy, 1121 01:00:07,979 --> 01:00:10,398 our cameraman, he jumped off the trail 1122 01:00:10,816 --> 01:00:14,820 'cause he had extreme foot pain and blisters. 1123 01:00:15,112 --> 01:00:16,988 - It's been a crazy four days 1124 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,617 seen stuff I'd never seen before. 1125 01:00:21,618 --> 01:00:24,579 Vistas I never imagined I would see. 1126 01:00:25,247 --> 01:00:28,416 Too bad my feet aren't hold up but.. 1127 01:00:29,626 --> 01:00:32,254 It was cool, while it lasted, super cool. 1128 01:00:33,130 --> 01:00:34,714 - Cool, we're gonna miss you Gordy. 1129 01:00:35,465 --> 01:00:36,633 - See you in Salt Lake. 1130 01:00:37,384 --> 01:00:40,262 - I'll try to meet you at the end of the trail. 1131 01:00:41,304 --> 01:00:41,847 - All right man 1132 01:00:42,139 --> 01:00:43,348 - Best of luck out there. 1133 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:44,850 - Stay safe 1134 01:00:45,142 --> 01:00:45,517 - Take care 1135 01:00:45,809 --> 01:00:46,977 - You too, it was awesome hiking with you. 1136 01:00:47,269 --> 01:00:51,439 - We hated to see Gordy go "cause we got attached to him, 1137 01:00:51,731 --> 01:00:52,858 he was like became one of our own. 1138 01:00:54,109 --> 01:00:57,070 But we definitely understand we've all been there. 1139 01:00:57,904 --> 01:01:02,117 - So he was able to get a ride with Aaron off the trail. 1140 01:01:02,409 --> 01:01:02,951 So he was out. 1141 01:01:03,243 --> 01:01:05,203 - It left us with our producer 1142 01:01:05,495 --> 01:01:08,999 and other cameraman and Matt and Benny. 1143 01:01:09,291 --> 01:01:10,667 They picked up some cameras 1144 01:01:10,959 --> 01:01:12,419 and they were taking shots as well. 1145 01:01:12,711 --> 01:01:15,088 So we managed to get through it 1146 01:01:15,380 --> 01:01:18,383 but Gordy did miss a great hike. 1147 01:01:19,551 --> 01:01:22,137 (soft music) 1148 01:01:33,940 --> 01:01:37,194 - Chipeta Lake is named after the wife of Chief Ouray. 1149 01:01:37,527 --> 01:01:40,155 And he was one of the most well known Ute Chiefs 1150 01:01:40,488 --> 01:01:43,116 that the government actually sort of identified to speak 1151 01:01:43,408 --> 01:01:45,535 for all the Ute during the negotiations 1152 01:01:45,827 --> 01:01:48,413 over the Uinta Ouray, named after him of course, 1153 01:01:48,705 --> 01:01:49,706 Reservation in the Uinta Basin, 1154 01:01:49,998 --> 01:01:52,918 where now the three bands of Ute's reside. 1155 01:01:54,544 --> 01:01:56,588 - The Native American story in the Uintas 1156 01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:58,924 goes back to the late Ice Age. 1157 01:01:59,216 --> 01:02:01,218 We're talking about 15,000 years plus 1158 01:02:01,509 --> 01:02:05,055 of human habitation in North America, it's not new. 1159 01:02:05,347 --> 01:02:08,183 There's an archaeological culture called Clovis Culture. 1160 01:02:08,475 --> 01:02:10,769 And we know that we have artifacts from very close 1161 01:02:11,102 --> 01:02:15,440 to the forest, a famous Clovis cache of weapons was found. 1162 01:02:15,732 --> 01:02:18,485 And those date back to say 14,000 years ago. 1163 01:02:18,777 --> 01:02:19,569 -These are the folks that are still 1164 01:02:19,861 --> 01:02:21,363 in the last waning stages of the Ice Age. 1165 01:02:21,655 --> 01:02:23,448 These are the people that are still hunting mammoth, 1166 01:02:23,782 --> 01:02:25,659 and hunting extinct forms of animals 1167 01:02:25,951 --> 01:02:26,952 that we don't have any more. 1168 01:02:28,578 --> 01:02:30,247 We've got some more severe weather patterns. 1169 01:02:30,538 --> 01:02:32,666 We've obviously got lower sea levels, 1170 01:02:32,958 --> 01:02:35,961 that's affording people to actually come across Beringia, 1171 01:02:36,253 --> 01:02:37,003 which is the Bering Strait, 1172 01:02:37,295 --> 01:02:39,965 coming down into the continental United States. 1173 01:02:40,257 --> 01:02:42,968 - Time marches on, things change, the environment changes, 1174 01:02:43,260 --> 01:02:46,554 people adapt to their sort of home range ecological zones, 1175 01:02:46,846 --> 01:02:48,640 you see a little bit of diversity in that. 1176 01:02:48,932 --> 01:02:51,309 We don't necessarily know how they were organized, socially. 1177 01:02:51,601 --> 01:02:54,771 What they call themselves up until about the historic period 1178 01:02:55,105 --> 01:02:58,900 when we do have all these other sort of Western Shoshone 1179 01:02:59,192 --> 01:03:01,987 Piute and Ute bands that we see in more recent history 1180 01:03:02,279 --> 01:03:04,864 that we can identify with the names that they still 1181 01:03:05,156 --> 01:03:06,074 identify themselves with today. 1182 01:03:08,743 --> 01:03:11,371 - Obviously, native people have a very different 1183 01:03:11,705 --> 01:03:13,498 relationship and a very close relationship 1184 01:03:13,790 --> 01:03:17,127 with the archaeology and history of their own people. 1185 01:03:17,419 --> 01:03:20,797 As archaeologists, our job is to make that Native American 1186 01:03:21,089 --> 01:03:22,841 history relevant to people that aren't necessarily 1187 01:03:23,133 --> 01:03:25,176 of Native American ancestry, because I think a lot 1188 01:03:25,468 --> 01:03:27,012 of our problem comes from people see things 1189 01:03:27,304 --> 01:03:28,930 as the other, or they're not concerned about it 1190 01:03:29,222 --> 01:03:30,849 'cause they don't feel some sort of link to it 1191 01:03:31,141 --> 01:03:34,185 with that sense of stewardship and that sense of time depth 1192 01:03:34,477 --> 01:03:36,021 that we seem to always be yearning for. 1193 01:03:36,313 --> 01:03:39,024 But we have. If it can just be recognized 1194 01:03:39,316 --> 01:03:41,943 by more people as an American archaeology. 1195 01:03:42,235 --> 01:03:44,904 This is an American history and we're Americans. 1196 01:03:57,834 --> 01:04:01,046 - It really stunk to have to go on without one of the guys 1197 01:04:01,338 --> 01:04:04,299 in our group, but you just got to keep moving. 1198 01:04:04,591 --> 01:04:05,050 And that's what we did. 1199 01:04:05,342 --> 01:04:08,178 We threw all that weight into our packs. 1200 01:04:08,470 --> 01:04:09,804 And we took off again. 1201 01:04:10,096 --> 01:04:12,432 We still kept an eye on Joe. 1202 01:04:12,724 --> 01:04:14,225 I was kind of wondering if he was gonna bail 1203 01:04:14,601 --> 01:04:17,395 at that point because he was in bad shape. 1204 01:04:17,729 --> 01:04:19,064 In fact, I think, in my opinion, 1205 01:04:19,522 --> 01:04:22,233 he seemed to almost be doing worse than Gordy. 1206 01:04:22,525 --> 01:04:26,821 So I was nervous, and at that point, you know, I didn't know 1207 01:04:27,113 --> 01:04:28,948 if we were gonna have other opportunities 1208 01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,743 to get out of the mountains if it was necessary. 1209 01:04:33,119 --> 01:04:35,205 - I'm feeling all right, right now. 1210 01:04:35,538 --> 01:04:38,083 I've just been having a hard time breathing 1211 01:04:38,375 --> 01:04:40,710 on all the up hills, and I feel like my lungs 1212 01:04:41,002 --> 01:04:41,711 aren't working right. 1213 01:04:42,003 --> 01:04:43,713 I can only breathe in like halfway 1214 01:04:44,005 --> 01:04:45,090 and then it kind of like hurts. 1215 01:04:45,382 --> 01:04:47,092 So I don't know exactly what's wrong with them, 1216 01:04:47,384 --> 01:04:50,095 but I just have to go real slow going uphill. 1217 01:04:50,387 --> 01:04:52,472 I was like, can't breathe, so I'm dealing 1218 01:04:52,764 --> 01:04:55,642 with that but whatever, maybe it'll go away. 1219 01:04:55,934 --> 01:04:56,851 That's what I'm hoping for. 1220 01:04:57,143 --> 01:05:01,314 - Of course, as luck would have it, we got our resupply, 1221 01:05:01,606 --> 01:05:04,067 and then immediately had to go up what is routinely 1222 01:05:04,359 --> 01:05:05,485 considered the toughest pass 1223 01:05:05,777 --> 01:05:08,113 on the High line Trail, North Pole pass. 1224 01:05:08,405 --> 01:05:12,200 - Every pass seem to be a little tougher than the one 1225 01:05:12,492 --> 01:05:14,869 before 'cause we were going west going 1226 01:05:15,161 --> 01:05:17,122 into more aggressive terrain. 1227 01:05:18,415 --> 01:05:20,959 (soft music) 1228 01:05:36,766 --> 01:05:40,061 - I'm not sure exactly what happened, but I think I had some 1229 01:05:40,353 --> 01:05:43,064 kind of like, chest cold or chest infection 1230 01:05:43,356 --> 01:05:45,567 at the same time as being at altitude. 1231 01:05:45,900 --> 01:05:48,153 So when we got to North Pole past, what I was doing 1232 01:05:48,445 --> 01:05:51,030 is putting one foot in front of the other like this, 1233 01:05:51,322 --> 01:05:53,450 little bitty stops 'cause that's all I could do. 1234 01:05:55,201 --> 01:05:57,120 - It seemed like it took forever to get 1235 01:05:57,454 --> 01:05:58,538 to the top of that pass. 1236 01:05:58,872 --> 01:06:02,167 I remember seeing this sign, thinking Ashley 1237 01:06:02,542 --> 01:06:04,085 my wifes name is Ashley. 1238 01:06:04,502 --> 01:06:05,462 So I thought about her a lot 1239 01:06:05,879 --> 01:06:07,589 when I was sitting there at that pass. 1240 01:06:08,089 --> 01:06:09,799 I love the outdoors, I love going backpacking. 1241 01:06:10,091 --> 01:06:14,012 I love being out for days and weeks and months on the end. 1242 01:06:14,387 --> 01:06:17,432 But I still miss my wife. 1243 01:06:35,074 --> 01:06:36,659 - Well, today was day four. 1244 01:06:37,327 --> 01:06:39,162 I will say it started off today 1245 01:06:39,621 --> 01:06:42,415 and I was a little nervous because the smoke blew in. 1246 01:06:42,707 --> 01:06:44,626 We could smell it when we woke up and I was thinking 1247 01:06:44,918 --> 01:06:48,588 that we might be walking into a fire, but it sounds 1248 01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,299 like that smoke is just blowing to us here 1249 01:06:51,591 --> 01:06:54,010 from California and Oregon and maybe for some other 1250 01:06:54,302 --> 01:06:56,012 smaller fires around Utah. 1251 01:06:56,304 --> 01:06:56,679 So that's really good news. 1252 01:06:57,222 --> 01:06:59,641 We'll see if it clears up because it still is a little hazy. 1253 01:07:00,725 --> 01:07:03,478 (birds chirping) 1254 01:07:04,229 --> 01:07:05,313 - Today was a tough day, man. 1255 01:07:06,397 --> 01:07:10,860 Got up, walked a little bit, got our food drop, 1256 01:07:11,194 --> 01:07:13,613 and climbed the biggest pass ever. 1257 01:07:14,113 --> 01:07:16,950 North Pole pass with six days of food on our backs, 1258 01:07:17,283 --> 01:07:19,327 seemed like it went on and on and on forever. 1259 01:07:19,661 --> 01:07:22,747 Finally made it to the top came down the other side 1260 01:07:23,206 --> 01:07:24,999 and ended up here in this grassy meadow, 1261 01:07:25,291 --> 01:07:27,252 which is really nice, so I'm glad to be here. 1262 01:07:27,544 --> 01:07:31,256 - So Joe's been having some trouble with the altitude 1263 01:07:31,589 --> 01:07:33,967 and climbing at higher altitudes, he's having a real 1264 01:07:34,259 --> 01:07:38,263 hard time breathing and getting a full, full breath inside. 1265 01:07:38,555 --> 01:07:40,640 So he's been struggling, he's been coughing a lot. 1266 01:07:40,932 --> 01:07:41,933 (coughing) 1267 01:07:42,225 --> 01:07:44,143 If you know Joe, he's a tough dude. 1268 01:07:44,435 --> 01:07:46,187 So he's gonna make it to the end for sure. 1269 01:07:46,479 --> 01:07:48,898 But he's just dealing with some stuff right now. 1270 01:07:49,315 --> 01:07:51,693 And we're concerned for him, but I think he's gonna make it. 1271 01:08:00,451 --> 01:08:02,829 (coughing) 1272 01:08:05,164 --> 01:08:07,792 - During the night, I woke up some where around 1273 01:08:08,084 --> 01:08:10,169 two o'clock and I could hear Joe coughing. 1274 01:08:11,671 --> 01:08:13,381 And I was a little bit concerned. 1275 01:08:13,881 --> 01:08:15,091 (coughing) 1276 01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:19,220 - I listened to him for, you know, probably 15 to 20 minutes 1277 01:08:19,512 --> 01:08:21,431 just struggling to breathe in the middle of the night. 1278 01:08:21,764 --> 01:08:24,767 And then I dozed off, but the next day, 1279 01:08:25,852 --> 01:08:29,355 I just knew that Joe's trip might be coming to an end. 1280 01:08:29,814 --> 01:08:32,984 - It was like the worst night's sleep for me ever. 1281 01:08:33,526 --> 01:08:36,154 I got this cough that keeps getting worse and worse. 1282 01:08:36,446 --> 01:08:38,489 So I don't know what to do right now. 1283 01:08:38,781 --> 01:08:40,199 We're a long way from anywhere. 1284 01:08:40,700 --> 01:08:43,703 So there's not really any great escape plan. 1285 01:08:43,995 --> 01:08:45,913 I couldn't breathe so like I didn't blow 1286 01:08:46,205 --> 01:08:47,290 my sleeping pad up last night. 1287 01:08:47,582 --> 01:08:49,417 I was like I'm so short of breath. 1288 01:08:49,709 --> 01:08:52,545 So in the middle of the night like I wanted to blow 1289 01:08:52,837 --> 01:08:54,547 this thing up because I kept tossing and turning, 1290 01:08:54,839 --> 01:08:55,506 but I just couldn't do it. 1291 01:08:55,798 --> 01:08:59,052 So if it's worse tonight, I'm more screwed 1292 01:08:59,385 --> 01:09:00,428 "cause we're gonna be farther away 1293 01:09:00,845 --> 01:09:02,096 from any escape plan. 1294 01:09:07,935 --> 01:09:10,647 - Unfortunately, Joe was not getting any better. 1295 01:09:10,980 --> 01:09:12,565 He seemed to be going slower. 1296 01:09:12,982 --> 01:09:17,362 He seemed to be coughing more, and we were considering 1297 01:09:17,654 --> 01:09:20,239 that a helicopter ride might be on the horizon 1298 01:09:20,615 --> 01:09:21,991 for Joe to get him out of there. 1299 01:09:25,536 --> 01:09:27,372 -When I got up, I knew that I wasn't feeling well. 1300 01:09:27,664 --> 01:09:29,207 So I'd already started looking at my maps 1301 01:09:29,499 --> 01:09:31,376 and trying to formulate an escape plan. 1302 01:09:31,668 --> 01:09:33,378 And there was one trail where I could hike 1303 01:09:33,670 --> 01:09:36,130 out to a trail head near Fox Lake. 1304 01:09:36,422 --> 01:09:40,677 And I was thinking well if I keep going and if it got worse, 1305 01:09:40,968 --> 01:09:42,637 I don't know what I would have done because we would have 1306 01:09:42,929 --> 01:09:44,472 been too deep into the mountains and it would have been like 1307 01:09:44,764 --> 01:09:47,475 a multi day hike to get to a trail head to get out of there. 1308 01:09:50,978 --> 01:09:53,439 - We got to the end of Fox Lake and there was an old cabin 1309 01:09:53,815 --> 01:09:55,400 and we sat down for a break. 1310 01:09:56,192 --> 01:09:58,319 - We were all in good spirits except for Joe. 1311 01:09:58,695 --> 01:10:02,240 He was real quiet and just kind of keeping to himself. 1312 01:10:02,532 --> 01:10:04,867 - I remember I was sitting on a rock just exhausted, 1313 01:10:05,243 --> 01:10:07,412 couldn't even move and everybody else is like dancing 1314 01:10:07,704 --> 01:10:08,788 around and having a great time. 1315 01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:10,915 Like they hadn't been hiking or anything. 1316 01:10:11,207 --> 01:10:12,959 So we got to the end of the lake and there was a dam 1317 01:10:13,251 --> 01:10:15,420 and that's where the trail splits off, where I knew 1318 01:10:15,712 --> 01:10:17,171 I could hike eight miles and get out of there, 1319 01:10:17,463 --> 01:10:18,631 if I wanted, I was like, well, 1320 01:10:18,923 --> 01:10:20,967 I'm not dying, I'm gonna be okay. 1321 01:10:21,843 --> 01:10:24,429 (birds chirping) 1322 01:10:24,721 --> 01:10:27,390 (upbeat music) 1323 01:10:35,982 --> 01:10:39,235 - Joe's got the beginning stages of pulmonary edema. 1324 01:10:39,527 --> 01:10:41,279 So basically Joe's gotta bail. 1325 01:10:41,571 --> 01:10:43,614 - So we hiked about another mile or so and 1326 01:10:43,906 --> 01:10:44,657 Joe had had enough. 1327 01:10:45,199 --> 01:10:48,202 He was coughing, he couldn't catch his breath. 1328 01:10:48,494 --> 01:10:50,329 So he finally made the decision 1329 01:10:50,621 --> 01:10:51,456 that he was gonna get out of there. 1330 01:10:51,748 --> 01:10:54,083 - Somethings wrong with my lungs right now, so... 1331 01:10:54,375 --> 01:10:59,797 - He said, "Look, you guys, I am not enjoying it. 1332 01:11:00,214 --> 01:11:03,760 "I didn't sleep, I'm in pain, I'm coughing. 1333 01:11:04,051 --> 01:11:06,929 "And on top of that, my hands are turning cold." 1334 01:11:07,346 --> 01:11:11,267 And I noticed when he was holding his trekking staff 1335 01:11:11,642 --> 01:11:13,227 that his knuckles were white 1336 01:11:13,644 --> 01:11:14,645 that he knew at that point 1337 01:11:14,979 --> 01:11:16,647 that there's just really nothing he could do. 1338 01:11:16,939 --> 01:11:17,982 He needed to get out of there. 1339 01:11:18,274 --> 01:11:19,484 And it just wasn't worth it. 1340 01:11:19,776 --> 01:11:20,860 It wasn't worth risking his life. 1341 01:11:21,152 --> 01:11:23,321 - And I think he made the right choice. 1342 01:11:23,613 --> 01:11:25,740 Anytime you're dealing with that kind of issue, 1343 01:11:26,032 --> 01:11:27,074 it can be life threatening. 1344 01:11:27,366 --> 01:11:29,827 We had a brief discussion about a helicopter, 1345 01:11:30,119 --> 01:11:32,038 a brief discussion about a horse. 1346 01:11:32,330 --> 01:11:34,707 If you know Joe, he turned those down pretty quickly. 1347 01:11:34,999 --> 01:11:36,167 - Hey, Gordy. - So we found 1348 01:11:36,459 --> 01:11:37,043 an alternate route. 1349 01:11:37,335 --> 01:11:39,921 We made a satellite call at Gordy who now was free. 1350 01:11:40,213 --> 01:11:43,257 - I'm gonna hike like an eight mile side trail down 1351 01:11:43,549 --> 01:11:47,094 to a trail head and Gordy who got off yesterday. 1352 01:11:47,386 --> 01:11:49,013 He's gonna come pick me up in the rental car. 1353 01:11:49,347 --> 01:11:51,766 So I'm out of here, but I bet you guys will have fun. 1354 01:11:52,642 --> 01:11:54,519 Five more days to go after today. 1355 01:11:54,811 --> 01:11:56,187 And I'll see you guys at the end. 1356 01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:57,772 - So we all said our goodbyes, 1357 01:11:58,064 --> 01:12:00,733 and Joe headed down the trail away from us. 1358 01:12:01,025 --> 01:12:03,528 And we were all pretty sad because we really wanted 1359 01:12:03,820 --> 01:12:04,529 to complete the journey together 1360 01:12:04,821 --> 01:12:07,532 but it just wasn't in the cards this time. 1361 01:12:07,824 --> 01:12:08,866 (upbeat music) 1362 01:12:13,704 --> 01:12:15,540 - It took me the whole day to do that eight miles. 1363 01:12:15,832 --> 01:12:18,793 So it was probably 5.30 by the time I got down there. 1364 01:12:19,293 --> 01:12:20,378 - How are you doing? 1365 01:12:20,795 --> 01:12:22,046 - All right, how are you doing right? 1366 01:12:22,421 --> 01:12:22,839 - All right. 1367 01:12:23,381 --> 01:12:26,050 - Gordy had a pickup truck and he had a half 1368 01:12:26,342 --> 01:12:27,385 of a turkey sub in the car 1369 01:12:27,677 --> 01:12:29,554 and it was the most amazing sound I've ever had. 1370 01:12:29,846 --> 01:12:32,014 All of a sudden I went from I don't feel like eating to, 1371 01:12:32,306 --> 01:12:33,558 oh, I do feel like eating. 1372 01:12:33,850 --> 01:12:36,310 It's amazing what getting in a air conditioned vehicle 1373 01:12:36,686 --> 01:12:38,020 and knowing you don't have to walk anymore 1374 01:12:38,396 --> 01:12:38,729 will do for your morale. 1375 01:12:39,730 --> 01:12:42,358 I was a little disappointed that I wasn't able to finish 1376 01:12:42,692 --> 01:12:45,444 the trail but at the same time, I just wasn't able to enjoy 1377 01:12:45,820 --> 01:12:48,114 it at all with how I felt so it wasn't worth it. 1378 01:12:49,991 --> 01:12:52,201 I was able to catch a flight out of Vernal, 1379 01:12:52,577 --> 01:12:54,579 Utah, the next day. It was really good 1380 01:12:54,871 --> 01:12:56,706 getting back home especially on this trip. 1381 01:12:56,998 --> 01:12:59,041 It took me a couple nights of sleeping sitting up 1382 01:12:59,333 --> 01:13:02,044 until whatever was wrong my lungs cleared out of there. 1383 01:13:02,336 --> 01:13:05,047 So everything kind of worked out really well. 1384 01:13:05,339 --> 01:13:09,802 - So we were down to five people. Four hikers 1385 01:13:10,219 --> 01:13:11,846 and our producer cameraman. 1386 01:13:12,805 --> 01:13:13,681 (upbeat music) 1387 01:13:49,383 --> 01:13:52,637 - Well today, really the one thing that stands out to me 1388 01:13:52,929 --> 01:13:55,806 is we kind of lost our captain, Joe, 1389 01:13:56,098 --> 01:13:58,643 the most experienced hiker of the bunch. 1390 01:13:58,935 --> 01:14:00,811 He had to check out early and I've hiked with Joe quite 1391 01:14:01,103 --> 01:14:05,149 a bit, and I've never seen him like I saw him on this hike. 1392 01:14:05,441 --> 01:14:08,527 So we're definitely gonna miss having him here with us. 1393 01:14:08,819 --> 01:14:10,613 - We're kind of beding down for the night 1394 01:14:11,656 --> 01:14:14,742 getting ready for another epic day tomorrow. 1395 01:14:15,117 --> 01:14:19,205 We go to the highest point on this whole trip 1396 01:14:19,580 --> 01:14:21,457 We'll be climbing Kings Peak. 1397 01:14:21,832 --> 01:14:24,502 That's the highest point in Utah so that'll be cool. 1398 01:14:24,794 --> 01:14:27,797 That'd be another high point state for me. 1399 01:14:28,089 --> 01:14:29,924 I think we got a pretty tough time in the morning 1400 01:14:30,216 --> 01:14:32,677 but I think a lot of us are ready for it. 1401 01:14:32,969 --> 01:14:34,220 We're kind of used to it at this point. 1402 01:14:34,512 --> 01:14:37,098 Should just be like another day on the job. 1403 01:14:37,974 --> 01:14:40,768 (upbeat music) 1404 01:14:50,861 --> 01:14:53,239 - Today, we are climbing up to Anderson Pass, 1405 01:14:53,531 --> 01:14:55,616 the highest point on the High line Trail 1406 01:14:55,908 --> 01:15:00,037 and then we are gonna take an off-shoot up to King's peak, 1407 01:15:00,329 --> 01:15:01,998 the highest point in Utah. 1408 01:15:02,289 --> 01:15:04,250 So we'll see we're gonna be about, man, 1409 01:15:04,542 --> 01:15:07,294 I think 3000 feet higher than we are right now. 1410 01:15:07,586 --> 01:15:10,756 So it's gonna be pretty crazy up there, I'm excited. 1411 01:15:11,048 --> 01:15:13,467 - I really am not crazy about climbing 700 feet 1412 01:15:13,759 --> 01:15:17,430 straight up, but peer pressure got the best of me 1413 01:15:17,722 --> 01:15:20,808 and I will be making that climb. 1414 01:15:21,100 --> 01:15:21,976 - Today is gonna be awesome. 1415 01:15:22,977 --> 01:15:25,563 We're gonna go really high and pass out 1416 01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:28,482 because we're gonna not have a lot of oxygen. 1417 01:15:29,734 --> 01:15:33,612 And then we're gonna hold up a sign that says, Kings Peak, 1418 01:15:33,904 --> 01:15:36,532 and then we're gonna like do crazy faces like. 1419 01:15:37,033 --> 01:15:39,994 UINTA!I 1420 01:15:43,456 --> 01:15:44,623 Now my throat hurts. 1421 01:15:45,833 --> 01:15:50,421 UINTA!! 1422 01:16:03,434 --> 01:16:04,226 - This was our big day. 1423 01:16:04,727 --> 01:16:07,980 This was a day that we were looking forward to. 1424 01:16:08,272 --> 01:16:10,649 But we were also a little nervous and apprehensive about 1425 01:16:10,941 --> 01:16:13,819 because we knew we were gonna be doing a lot of climbing. 1426 01:16:15,613 --> 01:16:17,364 - We weren't doing huge miles on the hike, 1427 01:16:17,740 --> 01:16:20,785 we were only really doing anywhere from eight to 12. 1428 01:16:21,077 --> 01:16:23,788 So that wasn't a big deal but being above 10,000 feet 1429 01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:28,542 in elevation, a 3000 foot climb just feels so much harder. 1430 01:16:36,300 --> 01:16:38,719 - We started making our way to Anderson Pass. 1431 01:16:39,095 --> 01:16:43,057 It took a while. It meandered and switch backed and we 1432 01:16:43,349 --> 01:16:44,058 finally got there 1433 01:16:44,433 --> 01:16:46,352 and it was the first pass that when you got 1434 01:16:46,685 --> 01:16:48,395 to the top it was like dropping off a cliff 1435 01:16:48,854 --> 01:16:52,316 on the other side and just a big expansive valley. 1436 01:16:54,318 --> 01:16:56,654 - So we could already feel it, we could feel the elevation, 1437 01:16:57,113 --> 01:16:59,824 but the views were just unbelievable. 1438 01:17:00,199 --> 01:17:03,452 - We put our packs off to the side on some rocks 1439 01:17:03,869 --> 01:17:05,704 and just start going up this peak, 1440 01:17:06,372 --> 01:17:08,415 all of a sudden the trail disappears. 1441 01:17:08,707 --> 01:17:10,626 The side trail to the King's Peak should not be called 1442 01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,879 the side trail to anywhere because it is not a trail. 1443 01:17:14,171 --> 01:17:19,844 It is simply giant rocks for 700 vertical feet, 1444 01:17:20,219 --> 01:17:21,804 all the way to the top. 1445 01:17:22,555 --> 01:17:24,473 - |I've never seen a mountain like this before, 1446 01:17:24,765 --> 01:17:28,978 it was just a pile of rocks, rocks that are about anywhere 1447 01:17:29,270 --> 01:17:32,731 from the size of a coffee table to the size of a car. 1448 01:17:33,023 --> 01:17:36,443 And you have to just kind of hop from rock to rock 1449 01:17:36,777 --> 01:17:38,487 and just hope that you don't fall. 1450 01:17:39,155 --> 01:17:40,447 - I don't think anybody really expected it 1451 01:17:40,739 --> 01:17:42,908 to be as difficult as it actually was. 1452 01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:46,871 Some parts of it, we were actually going hand over hand 1453 01:17:47,163 --> 01:17:50,875 and it just kept going up and up and up 1454 01:17:51,167 --> 01:17:55,129 and I complained, I bitched the entire way. 1455 01:17:55,462 --> 01:17:57,965 I yelled at everybody, I was mad. 1456 01:17:58,591 --> 01:18:00,801 I was like, why are you making me do this? 1457 01:18:01,093 --> 01:18:02,428 You said I was gonna have cell phone 1458 01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:04,263 service halfway up this mountain. 1459 01:18:04,555 --> 01:18:06,390 That's the only reason I'm coming up this mountain 1460 01:18:06,682 --> 01:18:09,727 so I can call my girlfriend, was their cell phone service? 1461 01:18:10,019 --> 01:18:12,062 No, there was no cell phone service. 1462 01:18:15,816 --> 01:18:18,360 (screaming) 1463 01:18:30,664 --> 01:18:32,750 - It is completely rewarding being up here 1464 01:18:33,125 --> 01:18:34,585 and doing it with these guys. 1465 01:18:35,002 --> 01:18:37,213 Makes it all that much better. 1466 01:18:37,588 --> 01:18:38,422 These guys let me tag along. 1467 01:18:38,839 --> 01:18:40,716 I feel pretty grateful and lucky for that. 1468 01:18:41,008 --> 01:18:43,636 - It was a good time, and here we are. 1469 01:18:45,471 --> 01:18:48,098 - The Highest point in Utah. Here's to Utah. 1470 01:18:49,016 --> 01:18:51,185 (screaming) 1471 01:18:56,106 --> 01:18:59,109 - It's one of the reasons why I hike is for those moments 1472 01:18:59,401 --> 01:19:02,446 and it was a moment that I'm not gonna forget. 1473 01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:12,623 - We made our way back down Anderson Pass 1474 01:19:12,915 --> 01:19:15,000 which took almost as long as it took to get back up 1475 01:19:15,292 --> 01:19:18,629 because you couldn't move fast 'cause there's no trail. 1476 01:19:18,921 --> 01:19:21,048 - We're all sitting there at Anderson Pass 1477 01:19:21,340 --> 01:19:22,633 and we're just kind of relaxing 1478 01:19:22,925 --> 01:19:25,302 and Will says, is that a patch of snow on the side of 1479 01:19:25,594 --> 01:19:27,680 that mountain, I look at it and I seen the head move, 1480 01:19:27,972 --> 01:19:29,890 I was like, no, that's a mountain goat. 1481 01:19:30,182 --> 01:19:32,101 That's first time I ever seen a mountain goat. 1482 01:19:39,275 --> 01:19:41,777 (soft music) 1483 01:20:07,219 --> 01:20:09,847 (birds chirping) 1484 01:20:10,139 --> 01:20:14,685 - So we're coming down from King's Peak, none of us 1485 01:20:14,977 --> 01:20:16,687 were smart enough to bring enough water with us. 1486 01:20:16,979 --> 01:20:19,481 So we're all out of water, we're in this valley. 1487 01:20:19,773 --> 01:20:23,235 We can't find any, we're thirsty, and that sucks. 1488 01:20:24,570 --> 01:20:27,323 (upbeat music) 1489 01:20:40,294 --> 01:20:44,256 - So we saw some herds of sheep, two or three times, 1490 01:20:44,548 --> 01:20:47,259 and you would hear 'em ahead of time. 1491 01:20:47,551 --> 01:20:52,181 And I said, why are those sheep making so much noise? 1492 01:20:52,473 --> 01:20:55,267 And Benny just makes this up. 1493 01:20:55,559 --> 01:20:57,478 He says, "Oh, they're just trying 1494 01:20:57,770 --> 01:20:59,355 "to tell each other that we're coming." 1495 01:20:59,646 --> 01:21:01,357 And he was totally serious 1496 01:21:01,648 --> 01:21:02,191 It was the biggest crock of crap. 1497 01:21:03,317 --> 01:21:08,781 - I've never heard so much bahing in my life, like (baaah!). 1498 01:21:09,073 --> 01:21:10,199 It was kind of crazy. 1499 01:21:10,699 --> 01:21:12,451 - There are sheep drive lines that do cross the trail 1500 01:21:12,743 --> 01:21:14,745 at times, we've had almost 150 years 1501 01:21:15,037 --> 01:21:16,997 of grazing history in the Uintas. 1502 01:21:17,289 --> 01:21:19,666 Sheep grazing mainly in the high elevations. 1503 01:21:19,958 --> 01:21:20,834 And the Uintas are a primitive area, 1504 01:21:21,126 --> 01:21:22,961 now they're a wilderness area, but it's still part 1505 01:21:23,253 --> 01:21:23,921 of our public land system. 1506 01:21:24,213 --> 01:21:27,132 So grazing is still an acceptable use. 1507 01:21:27,883 --> 01:21:28,842 (sheep sounds) 1508 01:21:33,931 --> 01:21:36,975 (birds chirping) 1509 01:21:43,690 --> 01:21:45,776 - Well, today was definitely one of the hardest days 1510 01:21:46,068 --> 01:21:47,111 of hiking that I've ever had. 1511 01:21:47,403 --> 01:21:48,445 And that's saying a lot 'cause I've hiked a lot of miles, 1512 01:21:50,030 --> 01:21:51,532 a lot of places, a lot of countries, 1513 01:21:51,824 --> 01:21:55,285 but the climbing was pretty insane. 1514 01:21:55,577 --> 01:21:58,789 And the sun was just beating on us all day long. 1515 01:21:59,081 --> 01:22:01,792 The water was plentiful on the way up, 1516 01:22:02,084 --> 01:22:03,877 but on the way down, we kind of ran out. 1517 01:22:04,169 --> 01:22:07,339 So we were hiking without water for a while. 1518 01:22:07,631 --> 01:22:09,299 So we were a little parched. 1519 01:22:09,591 --> 01:22:11,301 Pretty much ran down the mountain 1520 01:22:11,593 --> 01:22:12,928 so that I could get to water source. 1521 01:22:13,220 --> 01:22:16,181 So as you can see, I'm in a reclined position right now 1522 01:22:16,473 --> 01:22:19,101 that's because I'm literally about to fall asleep. 1523 01:22:19,393 --> 01:22:20,477 I just ate my food. 1524 01:22:20,769 --> 01:22:22,146 And I'm gonna go climb into my tent, 1525 01:22:22,438 --> 01:22:24,898 and we're gonna do it all over again tomorrow. 1526 01:22:25,190 --> 01:22:27,901 (soft music) 1527 01:22:45,461 --> 01:22:50,716 - Usually I wake up a little chipper, didn't happen today. 1528 01:22:51,008 --> 01:22:52,801 - My name is Steve Kaiser, and I'm 60. 1529 01:22:55,721 --> 01:22:57,055 And I feel like my life has been a life 1530 01:22:57,347 --> 01:23:01,059 of adventure and enjoyment, for the most part. 1531 01:23:01,351 --> 01:23:06,398 - Steve is like a mix of a big brother and another father. 1532 01:23:06,690 --> 01:23:10,027 He's just this big, jovial personality. 1533 01:23:10,319 --> 01:23:11,653 He's always optimistic. 1534 01:23:11,945 --> 01:23:13,864 He's a person who's not afraid to give a compliment. 1535 01:23:14,156 --> 01:23:16,867 He will always find something positive to say 1536 01:23:17,159 --> 01:23:20,412 about you to build you up and to make you feel good. 1537 01:23:20,829 --> 01:23:22,789 -When you're down or you're feeling it. 1538 01:23:23,081 --> 01:23:23,790 Your legs are feeling it. 1539 01:23:24,082 --> 01:23:26,001 Steve will come up and he'll just make you laugh, 1540 01:23:26,293 --> 01:23:26,919 and make you smile. 1541 01:23:27,211 --> 01:23:28,170 -There's only so much oxygen here 1542 01:23:28,462 --> 01:23:30,631 and I need it to breathe, not laugh. 1543 01:23:30,923 --> 01:23:33,759 - And don't tell him that he's 60 years old 1544 01:23:34,051 --> 01:23:35,886 because he's hiking with all us young guys. 1545 01:23:36,178 --> 01:23:38,138 Sometimes he's moving faster than us. 1546 01:23:38,430 --> 01:23:39,890 He pretty much started hiking with Joe 1547 01:23:40,182 --> 01:23:41,391 and Matt right from the beginning. 1548 01:23:41,683 --> 01:23:43,894 So all he's ever known is moving fast. 1549 01:23:44,186 --> 01:23:45,812 So Steve is just crazy. 1550 01:23:46,104 --> 01:23:47,564 Honestly, I really aspire to be like Steve, 1551 01:23:47,856 --> 01:23:49,483 when I'm his age, you know, in that good of shape. 1552 01:23:49,775 --> 01:23:54,530 - Steve is a crazy character, I absolutely love Steve. 1553 01:23:54,821 --> 01:23:56,990 If you're not laughing when you're around Steve, 1554 01:23:58,075 --> 01:23:59,826 then you're deaf. 1555 01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:00,661 - I love hiking. 1556 01:24:00,953 --> 01:24:02,663 Well, I love everything except the walking. 1557 01:24:04,748 --> 01:24:08,752 - Can be moody at times so we tease him about that. 1558 01:24:09,044 --> 01:24:09,920 He gets Hangry. 1559 01:24:10,212 --> 01:24:11,922 - Look a bone! 1560 01:24:12,214 --> 01:24:13,507 (growling) 1561 01:24:15,467 --> 01:24:19,179 - But just a great guy who would do anything for you. 1562 01:24:19,638 --> 01:24:21,431 - He's had a crazy life, you know, 1563 01:24:21,723 --> 01:24:23,934 he's lived in a bunch of different places. 1564 01:24:24,226 --> 01:24:24,977 He just has a lot of stories. 1565 01:24:25,269 --> 01:24:27,938 He's a real interesting guy to hang around with. 1566 01:24:28,230 --> 01:24:30,983 - I have some core passions that really 1567 01:24:31,275 --> 01:24:32,943 have been with me all my life. 1568 01:24:33,235 --> 01:24:36,363 I have to work with my hands. 1569 01:24:36,738 --> 01:24:39,157 I do a lot of original designs, you know, 1570 01:24:39,449 --> 01:24:42,953 nothing really too complex, more artistic. 1571 01:24:43,245 --> 01:24:44,788 I make a lot of gifts for people. 1572 01:24:47,207 --> 01:24:51,503 So woodworking and metalworking those are two very important 1573 01:24:51,837 --> 01:24:54,256 core passions of mine and also fitness, 1574 01:24:54,673 --> 01:24:57,968 I try to be as fit as possible. 1575 01:24:58,260 --> 01:25:01,722 As a person, just my overall path in life, 1576 01:25:02,014 --> 01:25:05,517 I just feel solid and I'm happy, I'm content 1577 01:25:05,892 --> 01:25:08,395 and my life is perfect. 1578 01:25:09,104 --> 01:25:11,815 (upbeat music) 1579 01:25:15,736 --> 01:25:16,820 - Life before hiking, 1580 01:25:19,656 --> 01:25:24,536 was, well, a lot transpired around the same time 1581 01:25:24,828 --> 01:25:28,457 I started hiking, so my life is very different now. 1582 01:25:29,458 --> 01:25:32,753 My life of addiction actually began when I was 1583 01:25:33,086 --> 01:25:36,882 about three or four years old, being the youngest of five, 1584 01:25:37,257 --> 01:25:42,846 I guess I was a surprise for parents that were over age 40. 1585 01:25:43,221 --> 01:25:49,102 My two older sisters were 15 and 17 when I was born, 1586 01:25:49,394 --> 01:25:51,980 and by time I was three, they were gone. 1587 01:25:52,314 --> 01:25:55,942 So, back in the 60s they didn't know about abandonment 1588 01:25:56,234 --> 01:25:59,154 issues and all of that, you know, it just wasn't a thing. 1589 01:25:59,446 --> 01:26:02,991 But it's real, so my life changed at that time 1590 01:26:03,283 --> 01:26:09,039 and I kind of went dark for 52 years. 1591 01:26:11,458 --> 01:26:14,628 My parents back then they smoked about eight 1592 01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:19,049 or 10 packs a day between them, just lighting one cigarette 1593 01:26:19,341 --> 01:26:23,303 off the other, and so I would get cigarettes just take them, 1594 01:26:23,595 --> 01:26:26,139 just steal them and they would never miss them. 1595 01:26:26,431 --> 01:26:29,226 But I was addicted where I needed a cigarette. 1596 01:26:29,518 --> 01:26:32,771 I was addicted by time I was four or five years old. 1597 01:26:46,535 --> 01:26:52,916 From age 27, I had been involved with AA or NA, 1598 01:26:53,291 --> 01:26:57,504 and most of my adult life from age 20 to age 55, 1599 01:26:57,921 --> 01:27:01,091 I only had six years cumulative 1600 01:27:01,383 --> 01:27:03,719 of active alcoholism or addiction. 1601 01:27:04,094 --> 01:27:07,389 All those other years were just dry years 1602 01:27:07,973 --> 01:27:10,475 trying to be sober, but miserable. 1603 01:27:11,893 --> 01:27:17,190 And throughout my adult life, I had probably six bad spikes 1604 01:27:17,482 --> 01:27:20,152 of depression where I really needed to go get help. 1605 01:27:20,444 --> 01:27:23,697 I would go to AA, I would go to NA, I'd work the steps, 1606 01:27:24,030 --> 01:27:27,868 I would get sponsors, and the story was always the same. 1607 01:27:28,201 --> 01:27:29,119 When I was three years old. 1608 01:27:29,411 --> 01:27:31,121 My two older sisters had left me 1609 01:27:31,413 --> 01:27:33,331 so it just stopped right there. 1610 01:27:34,541 --> 01:27:37,461 There was no more, there were no more questions 1611 01:27:37,794 --> 01:27:40,005 about any other trauma. 1612 01:27:40,589 --> 01:27:43,133 And so I had had other abuses 1613 01:27:43,425 --> 01:27:45,177 that I didn't realize were a factor. 1614 01:27:45,469 --> 01:27:51,141 And I struggled with that until I was about 55 years old. 1615 01:27:51,433 --> 01:27:52,809 (birds chirping) 1616 01:27:54,686 --> 01:27:58,815 I discovered hiking as a series of random events 1617 01:27:59,107 --> 01:28:05,071 that began with reading a novel entitled, "Lone wolf!" 1618 01:28:05,822 --> 01:28:08,992 And in that novel, there were things mentioned 1619 01:28:09,284 --> 01:28:12,454 about hiking and things like that or wilderness. 1620 01:28:12,788 --> 01:28:17,501 And I got this idea of hiking the Pacific Crest Trail. 1621 01:28:17,918 --> 01:28:23,423 My motivation was pretty dark. 1622 01:28:23,715 --> 01:28:26,593 Actually, I'd been to therapists 1623 01:28:26,885 --> 01:28:28,762 and psychiatrists and nothing worked. 1624 01:28:30,514 --> 01:28:36,686 Nothing could help, and suicidal thoughts were escalating. 1625 01:28:37,229 --> 01:28:46,905 And my plan was to go out to California in 2014, 1626 01:28:47,405 --> 01:28:49,074 and hike the Pacific Crest Trail 1627 01:28:49,366 --> 01:28:52,786 and just die and just not come back. 1628 01:28:53,078 --> 01:28:54,663 I was not coming back. 1629 01:28:54,955 --> 01:28:58,458 I knew I just did not wanna live anymore. 1630 01:29:02,879 --> 01:29:06,800 I researched probably 1631 01:29:07,092 --> 01:29:09,219 looking at gear of just reading about it. 1632 01:29:09,511 --> 01:29:12,305 I had not done any hikes at that time. 1633 01:29:12,597 --> 01:29:15,475 That's how I met Joe Valesko. 1634 01:29:15,767 --> 01:29:17,394 - Steve Kaiser is a good friend of ours. 1635 01:29:17,686 --> 01:29:20,939 He started off as a customer, he had bought something 1636 01:29:21,273 --> 01:29:23,608 or other and he came to the shop to pick it up. 1637 01:29:23,900 --> 01:29:26,736 And we were going on a like a short section hike 1638 01:29:27,028 --> 01:29:28,238 of the AT in a couple of weeks. 1639 01:29:28,530 --> 01:29:30,198 And we just happen to ask him if he wanted 1640 01:29:30,490 --> 01:29:31,241 to come on the hike with us. 1641 01:29:31,533 --> 01:29:37,247 - And I thought, "what?" Do you see what you're looking at? 1642 01:29:37,581 --> 01:29:40,375 I'm an old fat man, I can't even walk barely, you know, 1643 01:29:40,792 --> 01:29:44,254 and here's Joe like not even 30 years old inviting me 1644 01:29:44,546 --> 01:29:46,590 on this hike and I was a little uncomfortable 1645 01:29:46,882 --> 01:29:50,260 with it wondering, what the correct answer was, 1646 01:29:50,552 --> 01:29:52,304 of course, I wanted to go but I felt like, 1647 01:29:52,596 --> 01:29:55,265 oh my God, I'm gonna be imposing on these people. 1648 01:29:55,557 --> 01:30:02,188 Well, I went with him, his wife Sheryl and Matt Favero. 1649 01:30:02,480 --> 01:30:03,982 That's when I first met Matt. 1650 01:30:04,441 --> 01:30:06,526 He was a little scary at first, 1651 01:30:06,818 --> 01:30:08,486 but really hit it off with them. 1652 01:30:08,778 --> 01:30:09,863 (soft music) 1653 01:30:25,128 --> 01:30:29,299 I went to treatment, and the therapist said, 1654 01:30:29,591 --> 01:30:30,425 "I'm gonna put you in the trauma group.” 1655 01:30:30,717 --> 01:30:33,428 So I go the trauma group, and there's about three people 1656 01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:35,764 in there plus the therapist. 1657 01:30:36,056 --> 01:30:39,935 And she said, "Well, you know, Steve, why are you here?" 1658 01:30:41,478 --> 01:30:45,565 And it just came out with this sexual abuse I had as a kid, 1659 01:30:45,941 --> 01:30:50,570 10,11,12,13 years old, a couple of different incidences. 1660 01:30:50,904 --> 01:30:53,782 And I remember saying it 1661 01:30:54,074 --> 01:30:56,242 and then feeling this feeling inside. 1662 01:30:56,534 --> 01:30:59,871 And I just said, "I guess it was important”., 1663 01:31:00,205 --> 01:31:01,831 And I just started sobbing. 1664 01:31:03,166 --> 01:31:04,918 I had no idea I was carrying this around. 1665 01:31:06,378 --> 01:31:09,547 I was free at that moment, because I'd worked 1666 01:31:09,839 --> 01:31:12,342 on so many other things in my life. 1667 01:31:12,634 --> 01:31:16,304 There really wasn't anything left, except that. 1668 01:31:16,638 --> 01:31:19,933 Since then, I haven't had any more depression. 1669 01:31:20,809 --> 01:31:25,355 No more thoughts of suicide at any level whatsoever. 1670 01:31:26,564 --> 01:31:30,276 It was a very fortunate event, because I think a lot 1671 01:31:30,652 --> 01:31:33,279 of people are walking around with those things 1672 01:31:33,571 --> 01:31:35,573 that they don't know how to get rid of. 1673 01:31:35,865 --> 01:31:37,826 And I was one of the lucky ones. 1674 01:31:38,118 --> 01:31:39,577 - That was probably five, six years ago. 1675 01:31:39,869 --> 01:31:41,538 And ever since then, he's been coming on 1676 01:31:41,830 --> 01:31:43,248 almost all the hikes that we do. 1677 01:31:43,540 --> 01:31:46,084 He does great, he keeps up with us, no problem. 1678 01:31:46,376 --> 01:31:48,545 We have to keep up with him, half the time. 1679 01:31:48,837 --> 01:31:51,881 (birds chirping) 1680 01:31:56,761 --> 01:31:58,138 - All right, so today is day seven. 1681 01:31:58,430 --> 01:31:59,431 It's gonna be one of our easier days. 1682 01:31:59,723 --> 01:32:01,641 We've got about just a little over 10 miles 1683 01:32:01,933 --> 01:32:03,518 and we 1700 feet in elevation gain, 1684 01:32:03,810 --> 01:32:06,271 which is about half of what we did yesterday. 1685 01:32:06,563 --> 01:32:08,398 We're gonna go over Tungsten Pass immediately. 1686 01:32:08,690 --> 01:32:11,317 Then we've got Porcupine Pass, and then we're looking 1687 01:32:11,609 --> 01:32:13,278 forward to that Red Beard dance party. 1688 01:32:13,570 --> 01:32:15,739 When we get to camp early today. 1689 01:32:16,031 --> 01:32:18,867 (upbeat music) 1690 01:33:22,931 --> 01:33:26,476 - Growing up my dad always had nice minerals and rocks, 1691 01:33:26,768 --> 01:33:29,479 you know around the house from places that he went. 1692 01:33:29,771 --> 01:33:33,983 And so doing this hike, you just see all kinds. 1693 01:33:34,275 --> 01:33:37,403 This just gives you a little sampling of these red, 1694 01:33:37,695 --> 01:33:41,324 there's purple, there's green, there's yellow. 1695 01:33:41,616 --> 01:33:42,575 Just beautiful. 1696 01:33:54,295 --> 01:33:55,630 - My name is Ryan Buerkle, 1697 01:33:56,131 --> 01:33:58,091 I'm the Recreation Program Manager 1698 01:33:58,383 --> 01:33:59,759 for the Ashley National Forest. 1699 01:34:00,051 --> 01:34:01,136 Once you're on the High line Trail, 1700 01:34:01,427 --> 01:34:03,805 especially in those high basins, you're gonna come 1701 01:34:04,097 --> 01:34:05,890 along these big rock cairns, 1702 01:34:06,182 --> 01:34:08,518 Six to eight foot high pile of rocks. 1703 01:34:08,810 --> 01:34:10,603 And what those are for is for way finding. 1704 01:34:10,895 --> 01:34:13,648 So you can see from one cairn to the next, 1705 01:34:13,940 --> 01:34:16,234 and see where you're supposed to head towards. 1706 01:34:16,526 --> 01:34:18,027 Because in that alpine tundra, 1707 01:34:18,319 --> 01:34:21,531 there's not a specific worn in trail tread. 1708 01:34:21,823 --> 01:34:24,534 It's just walking across a natural landscape. 1709 01:34:24,826 --> 01:34:27,787 - Stone cairns are a difficulty for archaeologists, 1710 01:34:28,079 --> 01:34:30,039 because you can't just date stones. 1711 01:34:30,331 --> 01:34:32,041 So basically, unless someone's already identified 1712 01:34:32,333 --> 01:34:35,295 them historically, and you can go back to a historic record 1713 01:34:35,587 --> 01:34:36,546 and know that one was there. 1714 01:34:36,838 --> 01:34:38,882 There's really no way to know necessarily 1715 01:34:39,174 --> 01:34:39,716 when they were built. 1716 01:34:40,008 --> 01:34:42,218 Sheep herders are a kind of well known for making some 1717 01:34:42,510 --> 01:34:44,637 of the more complicated cairns that you might see, 1718 01:34:44,929 --> 01:34:48,141 like some of the nice sort of cylindrical ones. 1719 01:34:48,433 --> 01:34:51,519 The hard aspect of that too, is the fact that what you see 1720 01:34:51,811 --> 01:34:54,272 in a lot of wilderness areas and public lands, 1721 01:34:54,564 --> 01:34:55,190 especially in the West, 1722 01:34:55,481 --> 01:34:57,692 is a lot of the hikers creating cairns themselves. 1723 01:34:59,027 --> 01:35:01,070 Existing human infrastructure that's already there. 1724 01:35:01,404 --> 01:35:03,948 That's historic, we like it and it's good stuff. 1725 01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:07,660 But as far as creating new infrastructure or new structures, 1726 01:35:07,952 --> 01:35:09,871 whether out of trees or rock or anything else, 1727 01:35:10,163 --> 01:35:11,206 that's something that's kind of a big 1728 01:35:11,497 --> 01:35:13,166 no, no in the wilderness, we wanna try to leave 1729 01:35:13,458 --> 01:35:15,084 that as untrammeled as possible. 1730 01:35:15,376 --> 01:35:16,502 (soft music) 1731 01:35:21,758 --> 01:35:24,302 - I was walking along the rock path yesterday, 1732 01:35:24,594 --> 01:35:27,305 one of the rocks turned over and the sharp edge of the rock 1733 01:35:27,597 --> 01:35:29,599 went "pow" right into the side of my shoe. 1734 01:35:29,891 --> 01:35:33,561 I screamed a few choice words at the rock and kept going 1735 01:35:33,853 --> 01:35:35,730 and [ just realized that hey, look at this. 1736 01:35:36,022 --> 01:35:37,273 I got a nice bruise from it. 1737 01:35:37,565 --> 01:35:38,233 - What are you gonna do? 1738 01:35:40,818 --> 01:35:43,821 - Towards the end of our day, we got to a location 1739 01:35:44,155 --> 01:35:46,658 and we stopped there initially just to take a break. 1740 01:35:46,950 --> 01:35:51,454 But it was so incredible that we all just kind of came 1741 01:35:51,746 --> 01:35:54,624 to the conclusion rather quickly that this was a great 1742 01:35:54,916 --> 01:35:56,459 place to spend the night. 1743 01:35:57,085 --> 01:36:00,046 (birds chirping) 1744 01:36:12,058 --> 01:36:14,727 - Around 10.30 I climbed out of my tent. 1745 01:36:15,019 --> 01:36:17,105 The stars were just incredible. 1746 01:36:17,397 --> 01:36:19,482 They were unlike anything I'd ever seen before. 1747 01:36:19,774 --> 01:36:22,110 And I just remember standing there and taking it all 1748 01:36:22,443 --> 01:36:25,321 in for a few minutes before climbing back in my tent 1749 01:36:25,697 --> 01:36:28,032 and going to sleep that night. 1750 01:36:29,117 --> 01:36:31,744 (soft music) 1751 01:37:06,070 --> 01:37:07,739 - Steve here, he had to go to the bathroom. 1752 01:37:08,031 --> 01:37:09,574 We just started hiking so he went off 1753 01:37:09,866 --> 01:37:12,535 into the woods to do number two. 1754 01:37:12,827 --> 01:37:14,370 (laughing) 1755 01:37:18,875 --> 01:37:21,627 (Elk calling) 1756 01:37:21,919 --> 01:37:22,295 - No way. 1757 01:37:22,587 --> 01:37:24,714 - He just got an Elk to freken call back at him. 1758 01:37:25,006 --> 01:37:27,800 The Elk's like, "I wanna hang out with you'. 1759 01:37:33,222 --> 01:37:34,766 - It was amazing. 1760 01:37:36,017 --> 01:37:38,811 (upbeat music) 1761 01:38:06,255 --> 01:38:09,884 - As we climbed up Red Knob Pass, the beauty around us 1762 01:38:10,176 --> 01:38:11,135 was just spectacular again 1763 01:38:11,427 --> 01:38:13,096 like it had been on this entire hike. 1764 01:38:13,388 --> 01:38:17,266 But once we reach the top of the pass, I'll never forget it. 1765 01:38:17,558 --> 01:38:23,481 It was by far the best pass that we had been up so far. 1766 01:38:26,984 --> 01:38:30,780 It was almost 360 degrees of mountains 1767 01:38:31,072 --> 01:38:34,242 with a deep valley, almost a canyon. 1768 01:38:34,534 --> 01:38:37,328 (upbeat music) 1769 01:39:14,532 --> 01:39:17,618 - We did this right going from east to west on this trail. 1770 01:39:17,952 --> 01:39:19,078 Every day was great. 1771 01:39:19,370 --> 01:39:22,957 And the next day was even better and today was the best. 1772 01:39:23,249 --> 01:39:25,793 The whole mountain range was just so much 1773 01:39:26,085 --> 01:39:28,838 more defined and jagged and pretty. 1774 01:39:29,130 --> 01:39:31,466 Everything was just better today. 1775 01:39:42,643 --> 01:39:46,564 - My name is Benny Braden, I'm Electrician by trade, 1776 01:39:46,856 --> 01:39:48,941 but I also have a great passion for backpacking. 1777 01:39:50,610 --> 01:39:52,778 First of all, I'm follower of Christ, 1778 01:39:53,112 --> 01:39:55,865 and I absolutely love my family. 1779 01:39:57,575 --> 01:40:00,536 - Benny is Mr. Loyalty, if you need him, he'll be there. 1780 01:40:00,828 --> 01:40:04,957 He'll drive hours to help you, he really values friendship, 1781 01:40:05,249 --> 01:40:07,877 and he values a quality relationship, 1782 01:40:08,169 --> 01:40:09,462 whether that be with his family, 1783 01:40:09,754 --> 01:40:11,839 his friends or the hiking community. 1784 01:40:12,173 --> 01:40:14,884 - Benny is one of the most passionate guys 1785 01:40:15,176 --> 01:40:16,886 when it comes to hiking that I've ever met. 1786 01:40:17,178 --> 01:40:19,889 He is pretty much always on a trail. 1787 01:40:20,181 --> 01:40:23,309 He holds some records, he's the fastest person to ever hike. 1788 01:40:23,601 --> 01:40:26,521 All the trails in the Great Smoky Mountain National Park 1789 01:40:26,812 --> 01:40:28,481 is about 900 miles of trail. 1790 01:40:28,773 --> 01:40:31,692 - I think Benny is the most physically fit 1791 01:40:31,984 --> 01:40:35,905 45 year old I have ever met in my life. 1792 01:40:36,197 --> 01:40:37,073 - He's a man of few words. 1793 01:40:37,365 --> 01:40:39,659 He's an electrician by trade, and I guess he's able 1794 01:40:39,951 --> 01:40:42,662 to just stop his business and then his clients wait 1795 01:40:42,954 --> 01:40:45,373 for him and when he gets back to town, he picks up 1796 01:40:45,665 --> 01:40:47,917 where he left off and he's able to make enough money 1797 01:40:48,209 --> 01:40:50,836 to basically support himself and support his hiking. 1798 01:40:52,338 --> 01:40:55,508 -When I was growing up, I was, I like to say, 1799 01:40:55,925 --> 01:40:58,928 I was a good son, I was a pretty quiet kid, 1800 01:40:59,220 --> 01:41:02,723 and I really enjoyed just being outside. 1801 01:41:03,015 --> 01:41:05,601 (soft music) 1802 01:41:12,775 --> 01:41:14,944 In the early 2000s, I used to be an EMT. 1803 01:41:16,988 --> 01:41:21,492 I did it because I would hope that someone would do 1804 01:41:21,867 --> 01:41:24,120 something for my family member if they were in need. 1805 01:41:25,329 --> 01:41:28,291 It is a great opportunity, I enjoyed it at the time. 1806 01:41:46,350 --> 01:41:50,980 It's tough to do that job and have a normal life. 1807 01:41:54,650 --> 01:41:57,403 We did all kinds of calls, mostly medical, 1808 01:41:58,029 --> 01:41:59,989 that they could range from anything 1809 01:42:00,281 --> 01:42:05,703 from a vehicle accident, to drownings. 1810 01:42:09,915 --> 01:42:15,004 To spare everybody the graphic nature of that job, 1811 01:42:15,296 --> 01:42:16,005 I just simply tell folks, 1812 01:42:16,297 --> 01:42:19,383 I've seen people die every way they can possibly die. 1813 01:42:27,183 --> 01:42:33,064 Those kind of events can really impact you mentally. 1814 01:42:33,814 --> 01:42:37,276 Whenever I would leave a scene, I would just block it 1815 01:42:37,693 --> 01:42:43,115 out in my mind as if it didn't happen, and I would go on 1816 01:42:43,741 --> 01:42:45,326 with my normal daily routine. 1817 01:42:46,911 --> 01:42:50,623 And when I was on call, if I was let's say extricating 1818 01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:55,252 a person from a vehicle, I wouldn't make patient eye contact 1819 01:42:56,420 --> 01:42:58,506 because it wasn't human at that point. 1820 01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:03,427 I'd focus mostly on moving the metal of the vehicle 1821 01:43:03,761 --> 01:43:07,056 to get that person out, and that allowed me 1822 01:43:07,348 --> 01:43:09,809 to just kind of "out of sight out of mind"., 1823 01:43:10,101 --> 01:43:11,394 And that worked for years, 1824 01:43:13,187 --> 01:43:16,065 until after I was completely out of the field. 1825 01:43:18,609 --> 01:43:20,778 I first noticed the effects of it, 1826 01:43:21,737 --> 01:43:23,072 shortly after we got married. 1827 01:43:25,032 --> 01:43:27,118 I had a son from a previous marriage, 1828 01:43:27,451 --> 01:43:30,538 and Ashley had her two daughters from a previous marriage. 1829 01:43:31,455 --> 01:43:34,375 In addition to that, my brother passed away 1830 01:43:34,750 --> 01:43:37,712 in that same time period, and he had two girls. 1831 01:43:55,187 --> 01:43:59,817 Most people call it PTSD, post traumatic stress disorder. 1832 01:44:00,901 --> 01:44:03,654 Nobody wants to be labeled with a disorder. 1833 01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:08,200 So that's why choose simply to call it PTS. 1834 01:44:11,036 --> 01:44:15,291 You try to block out some stuff but at some point in time, 1835 01:44:16,542 --> 01:44:17,752 you can't block out anymore. 1836 01:44:25,009 --> 01:44:27,261 It sent me into a very deep depression. 1837 01:44:29,138 --> 01:44:34,393 - To see Benny go through PTS was really heartbreaking. 1838 01:44:34,810 --> 01:44:37,146 It was kind of like walking on eggshells all the time. 1839 01:44:37,897 --> 01:44:40,149 -I would just become a monster I would yell 1840 01:44:40,441 --> 01:44:43,360 and scream. Not just at Ashley, but at the kids. 1841 01:44:44,278 --> 01:44:46,781 - Then he would leave and he'd say gone through the night 1842 01:44:47,156 --> 01:44:50,117 he would go park in a parking lot and sleep. 1843 01:44:51,619 --> 01:44:56,624 - And before I knew it, there was an attempt at suicide. 1844 01:45:01,837 --> 01:45:04,256 I woke up a day or two later, 1845 01:45:04,840 --> 01:45:06,884 being evaluated in a mental hospital. 1846 01:45:08,177 --> 01:45:10,721 - That was definitely a hard thing to go through. 1847 01:45:11,055 --> 01:45:12,640 And I did a lot of praying. 1848 01:45:13,390 --> 01:45:15,518 But I knew that there would come 1849 01:45:15,893 --> 01:45:18,187 a time where it would be over. 1850 01:45:18,479 --> 01:45:22,024 So you just have to like, work through it. 1851 01:45:22,316 --> 01:45:25,027 And I wasn't gonna stop loving him no matter what. 1852 01:45:37,998 --> 01:45:41,210 -Whenever I'm on a long hike, I pray a lot. 1853 01:45:41,502 --> 01:45:45,214 Talk to God a lot, just try to clear out my mind. 1854 01:45:45,506 --> 01:45:49,009 And I started seeing some answers. 1855 01:45:49,301 --> 01:45:51,136 It's like I have a huge desk in my brain 1856 01:45:52,012 --> 01:45:57,560 and is just piled up with images of different events. 1857 01:45:58,269 --> 01:46:00,229 It's like I can take one of those images 1858 01:46:01,397 --> 01:46:05,401 and look at it and pray about it, meditate about it, 1859 01:46:05,693 --> 01:46:07,111 and try to make some sense of it. 1860 01:46:07,403 --> 01:46:09,655 Now some things I don't ever make sense of, 1861 01:46:10,239 --> 01:46:11,699 like why did this one child have die? 1862 01:46:13,284 --> 01:46:15,995 Or why did this family have to suffer this loss? 1863 01:46:16,579 --> 01:46:19,248 Some things I simply cannot answer, 1864 01:46:19,540 --> 01:46:22,042 but I'm able to make sense of it. 1865 01:46:23,252 --> 01:46:24,712 So that allows me to move on. 1866 01:46:26,046 --> 01:46:27,882 Then I can pull another image. 1867 01:46:28,215 --> 01:46:31,844 Now it might take me a day to deal with that. 1868 01:46:32,177 --> 01:46:34,805 It might take me the whole hike to deal with it, 1869 01:46:36,348 --> 01:46:39,518 but at least that's one situation that I've dealt with. 1870 01:46:40,769 --> 01:46:41,645 And I can move on. 1871 01:46:43,147 --> 01:46:45,357 My whole demeanor was different, it was changing me. 1872 01:46:45,691 --> 01:46:48,611 Every day I would be out in the woods, it was changing me. 1873 01:46:48,944 --> 01:46:53,115 I was less aggressive with my discipline, with my words. 1874 01:46:54,074 --> 01:46:56,035 It softened me up 1875 01:46:56,577 --> 01:47:00,331 - We're closer as a couple and closer with kids. 1876 01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:05,085 He's a better husband, and a way better dad. 1877 01:47:07,004 --> 01:47:09,840 - Well, my life now is a lot different 1878 01:47:10,174 --> 01:47:11,800 than what it used to be for sure. 1879 01:47:12,134 --> 01:47:15,763 And I'm so thankful, I couldn't have scripted 1880 01:47:17,431 --> 01:47:19,099 my life any better than what it is. 1881 01:47:19,516 --> 01:47:23,437 And it's all thanks to long distance backpack. 1882 01:47:24,063 --> 01:47:28,233 And of course to God. A lot of answered prayers. 1883 01:47:28,525 --> 01:47:33,322 Our time together is very well spent and is cherished 1884 01:47:33,614 --> 01:47:38,410 'cause we know how life used to be. 1885 01:47:49,964 --> 01:47:52,883 (birds chirping) 1886 01:47:59,098 --> 01:48:01,600 (cheering) 1887 01:48:04,144 --> 01:48:07,106 - The finish!! - Congratulations! 1888 01:48:07,398 --> 01:48:08,357 (cheering 1889 01:48:09,525 --> 01:48:10,567 - Good job Benny! 1890 01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:16,782 - You beast! 1891 01:48:17,074 --> 01:48:18,367 - Good job Benny! 1892 01:48:18,659 --> 01:48:21,078 (laughing) 1893 01:48:56,030 --> 01:48:57,031 - Careful. 1894 01:49:06,081 --> 01:49:08,417 (upbeat music) 1895 01:49:10,210 --> 01:49:11,420 - Best pass so far. 1896 01:49:12,337 --> 01:49:15,215 No doubt definitely the sketchiest pass, my gosh. 1897 01:49:19,595 --> 01:49:20,471 - Amazing, geeze. 1898 01:49:22,514 --> 01:49:24,391 - You can definitely knit a hat out of that. 1899 01:49:25,184 --> 01:49:26,560 Yeah, I love wool hats. 1900 01:49:27,728 --> 01:49:30,522 (upbeat music) 1901 01:50:00,594 --> 01:50:03,555 (thunder roaring) 1902 01:50:17,236 --> 01:50:19,488 - I was just in the worst hailstorm in my life basically 1903 01:50:19,780 --> 01:50:22,533 it started off pretty tame and then it just got crazier 1904 01:50:22,825 --> 01:50:24,993 and crazier and heavier and heavier. 1905 01:50:25,285 --> 01:50:27,746 - It only lasted for maybe three or four minutes. 1906 01:50:28,038 --> 01:50:30,958 And then we were able to really just jump out of our tents 1907 01:50:31,250 --> 01:50:35,462 and hang out together and just enjoy each other's company. 1908 01:50:35,754 --> 01:50:37,506 As we experienced our last night 1909 01:50:37,798 --> 01:50:40,592 on the magical Uinta High line Trail. 1910 01:50:47,307 --> 01:50:48,725 - The final day. 1911 01:50:49,017 --> 01:50:51,145 Me and Will are some of the first to wake up. 1912 01:50:51,436 --> 01:50:53,564 We're sitting there taking pictures of the sunrise 1913 01:50:53,856 --> 01:50:56,900 reflecting off of the lake, and all of a sudden, 1914 01:50:57,192 --> 01:50:59,528 I thought Will was gonna choke on his coffee 1915 01:50:59,820 --> 01:51:03,991 because he's like, "moose! there's two moose!" 1916 01:51:04,283 --> 01:51:08,579 - We're seeing two moose right now, right in front of us. 1917 01:51:08,871 --> 01:51:11,707 It looks like a male and female. 1918 01:51:17,713 --> 01:51:20,382 It was really a special moment for me on this trip. 1919 01:51:20,674 --> 01:51:24,678 And I'm like pumping my arms and I was like yeah. 1920 01:51:24,970 --> 01:51:25,554 - What a great ending. 1921 01:51:25,846 --> 01:51:28,307 Really, I don't think we could have scripted it any better. 1922 01:51:28,599 --> 01:51:32,102 To have these incredible majestic animals just walk out. 1923 01:51:32,394 --> 01:51:35,272 And it was a great experience really, 1924 01:51:35,564 --> 01:51:37,566 and something I'll never forget. 1925 01:51:37,858 --> 01:51:40,527 (upbeat music) 1926 01:51:46,992 --> 01:51:49,578 - The thing I missed the most every time I'm on the trail 1927 01:51:49,870 --> 01:51:52,706 is my wife and my daughter, I know that sounds cliche, 1928 01:51:52,998 --> 01:51:54,249 but it's totally the truth. 1929 01:51:54,541 --> 01:51:57,669 -What I miss on this hike is just communicating 1930 01:51:57,961 --> 01:51:59,963 with people that I talk to every day. 1931 01:52:00,255 --> 01:52:03,258 We've gone so many days without any phone service. 1932 01:52:03,550 --> 01:52:05,177 You know how it is it's traumatic. 1933 01:52:05,469 --> 01:52:06,762 - The thing I miss the most is my girlfriend, 1934 01:52:07,054 --> 01:52:11,475 Joelle and just my life in Gainesville and the farm. 1935 01:52:11,767 --> 01:52:15,604 - I miss my wife, my beautiful bride, miss my kids, 1936 01:52:15,938 --> 01:52:19,608 the last couple days just before you start going back home, 1937 01:52:19,900 --> 01:52:22,694 you start anticipating what that moment 1938 01:52:22,986 --> 01:52:26,281 is gonna be like whenever you reunite. 1939 01:52:32,788 --> 01:52:34,498 - The thing that really means the most to me in life 1940 01:52:34,790 --> 01:52:38,085 are my relationships, because you can't buy them. 1941 01:52:38,377 --> 01:52:39,002 You can't fake them. 1942 01:52:39,294 --> 01:52:41,630 You have to earn them through shared experiences. 1943 01:52:43,298 --> 01:52:45,050 - I can be in the country, I can be in the woods, 1944 01:52:45,342 --> 01:52:49,680 I can be in the city, and enjoy myself no matter where I am. 1945 01:52:50,013 --> 01:52:52,266 I guess what's most important is who I'm with. 1946 01:52:55,769 --> 01:52:56,645 - Yey! 1947 01:52:56,937 --> 01:52:58,272 - Yeah! yeah! 1948 01:52:58,563 --> 01:52:59,731 - Another one done baby! 1949 01:53:02,317 --> 01:53:03,485 - 104 miles. 1950 01:53:08,490 --> 01:53:09,283 - It was incredible. 1951 01:53:09,908 --> 01:53:13,078 I couldn't imagine finishing up my summer hike, 1952 01:53:13,370 --> 01:53:15,622 any other way at any other place, 1953 01:53:15,914 --> 01:53:16,665 than on the Uinta High line. 1954 01:53:19,710 --> 01:53:21,128 - And it's just one of those things you kind of have 1955 01:53:21,420 --> 01:53:23,463 to just chase after your passions and you don't know 1956 01:53:23,755 --> 01:53:25,299 what tomorrow is gonna hold and that's the whole 1957 01:53:25,590 --> 01:53:28,343 excitement about long distance hiking, you don't know 1958 01:53:28,635 --> 01:53:30,512 who you'll meet the next day, you don't know 1959 01:53:30,804 --> 01:53:32,347 where you'll sleep the next day. 1960 01:53:32,639 --> 01:53:34,099 - Everybody spends their time indoors. 1961 01:53:34,391 --> 01:53:36,935 You know, you go from in your house, to in a car, 1962 01:53:37,352 --> 01:53:39,938 to in an office, back to in your car, back in your house. 1963 01:53:40,230 --> 01:53:42,024 So I think you know, getting outside 1964 01:53:42,316 --> 01:53:43,984 is important for everybody. 1965 01:53:46,278 --> 01:53:47,738 - My children are watching. 1966 01:53:49,865 --> 01:53:53,493 We don't only teach our children right from wrong, 1967 01:53:54,036 --> 01:53:55,746 but we also teach them how to live. 1968 01:53:57,289 --> 01:53:59,791 Do we want them to be ordinary? 1969 01:54:00,125 --> 01:54:02,544 Or do we want our children to be extraordinary? 1970 01:54:04,046 --> 01:54:05,339 We lead by example? 1971 01:54:15,182 --> 01:54:19,978 - I'm so grateful for my life and I love the experiences 1972 01:54:20,270 --> 01:54:23,732 and the adventures that I've been on in the last few years. 1973 01:54:24,066 --> 01:54:25,692 I look forward to what's to come. 1974 01:54:28,987 --> 01:54:32,491 - It's our path, and this is where I'm supposed to be, 1975 01:54:33,867 --> 01:54:35,619 right now, at this very moment. 1976 01:54:37,621 --> 01:54:40,248 And what we do next, matters. 1977 01:54:41,041 --> 01:54:43,835 (soft music) 1978 01:55:05,649 --> 01:55:09,444 - All right, day night, oops, day night. 1979 01:55:09,736 --> 01:55:10,779 Okay, it's day nine. 1980 01:55:11,071 --> 01:55:12,781 (laughing) 1981 01:55:13,073 --> 01:55:14,491 - Take 12 Matt. 1982 01:55:14,783 --> 01:55:15,283 Day nine. 1983 01:55:15,575 --> 01:55:16,868 - He's really struggling with it 1984 01:55:23,500 --> 01:55:24,251 - My favorite animal. 1985 01:55:24,543 --> 01:55:27,963 I don't know if I have a favorite animal, 1986 01:55:28,338 --> 01:55:30,966 maybe the honey badger, 'cause they're pretty bad ass 1987 01:55:31,550 --> 01:55:33,593 (laughing) 1988 01:55:34,177 --> 01:55:35,637 - Hi! 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