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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:12,220 --> 00:00:16,725 The only thing that ever heals, the only thing that ever awakens 2 00:00:16,808 --> 00:00:17,934 is connection. 3 00:00:18,018 --> 00:00:21,771 I do think we have a pleasure deficit disorder in this country. 4 00:00:21,855 --> 00:00:24,941 It's getting faster and faster, our world is getting really hyper-connected, 5 00:00:25,025 --> 00:00:27,861 but human connection is beginning to dissolve. 6 00:00:27,944 --> 00:00:30,864 I do think, though, that there is a cure, 7 00:00:30,947 --> 00:00:32,073 and that cure is 8 00:00:32,157 --> 00:00:34,034 female orgasm. 9 00:00:42,333 --> 00:00:44,252 Hi. My name is Nicole Daedone, 10 00:00:44,335 --> 00:00:47,547 and I'm the founder of OneTaste Urban Retreat Center. 11 00:00:47,630 --> 00:00:51,468 She really was a celebrity to me. Like, I'd seen her TED Talk 30 times. 12 00:00:53,011 --> 00:00:54,220 I have this vision 13 00:00:54,304 --> 00:00:58,224 that someday you'll see yoga and meditation and orgasm 14 00:00:58,808 --> 00:01:00,393 all on the same bill. 15 00:01:00,477 --> 00:01:03,021 Welcome to the Orgasm Is pop-up shop. 16 00:01:03,605 --> 00:01:05,482 Is. Orgasm Is. 17 00:01:05,982 --> 00:01:07,067 Yeah. 18 00:01:07,984 --> 00:01:10,195 Hi! 19 00:01:10,278 --> 00:01:13,281 People began to flood into our doors, 20 00:01:13,364 --> 00:01:15,867 person after person after person. 21 00:01:15,950 --> 00:01:18,369 That's one reason why I love living in Silicon Valley. 22 00:01:18,453 --> 00:01:22,123 Every single option you could imagine available in this city. 23 00:01:22,207 --> 00:01:25,085 It was all about exploring orgasm, exploring pleasure. 24 00:01:25,168 --> 00:01:29,798 To feel that open and that safe with another human being, 25 00:01:29,881 --> 00:01:32,634 every single woman should know she can feel that. 26 00:01:34,761 --> 00:01:40,391 I'm a lot more conscious just of my own power in my sex. 27 00:01:42,477 --> 00:01:46,189 The next thing we knew, we were invited into all of these tech circles. 28 00:01:46,898 --> 00:01:49,651 She wants to have this elite group 29 00:01:49,734 --> 00:01:53,113 of turned-on, hip men and women. 30 00:01:53,196 --> 00:01:55,615 I was a lonely, nerdy guy. 31 00:01:55,698 --> 00:01:59,661 OneTaste opened up a world I didn't even dream was possible. 32 00:02:00,161 --> 00:02:02,789 That feeling that had driven me my whole life, 33 00:02:02,872 --> 00:02:05,750 seeking or trying to connect in relationship or sex 34 00:02:05,834 --> 00:02:08,128 or any of those things, it was like... 35 00:02:09,129 --> 00:02:10,004 "This is it." 36 00:02:12,799 --> 00:02:15,510 It went from, like, utopia to a hellhole. 37 00:02:15,593 --> 00:02:20,098 She would just become fascinated with what she could get people to do. 38 00:02:20,181 --> 00:02:22,851 That was kind of, like, her secret thrill. 39 00:02:22,934 --> 00:02:25,019 People were getting hurt. 40 00:02:25,103 --> 00:02:26,813 People were getting hurt badly. 41 00:02:26,896 --> 00:02:28,376 She thought she was 42 00:02:28,439 --> 00:02:31,399 saving the world by taking people's money and messing up people's emotions. 43 00:02:32,527 --> 00:02:34,779 Welcome to hell. 44 00:02:47,625 --> 00:02:48,918 When you look at orgasm, 45 00:02:49,002 --> 00:02:54,340 what I found is it has the same fundamental goal as the internet, 46 00:02:54,424 --> 00:02:56,551 and that's human-to-human connection. 47 00:02:56,634 --> 00:02:58,970 OneTaste was a fast-growing startup 48 00:02:59,053 --> 00:03:01,139 in the health and wellness, and sexuality space. 49 00:03:02,140 --> 00:03:05,393 It was started by Nicole Daedone. 50 00:03:06,477 --> 00:03:08,688 Having spent a lot of time thinking about Nicole, 51 00:03:08,771 --> 00:03:12,025 I think of her as a very skilled craftsman. 52 00:03:12,108 --> 00:03:14,986 She seems to know what people will gravitate toward. 53 00:03:15,069 --> 00:03:16,738 People wanted to hear from a woman. 54 00:03:16,821 --> 00:03:22,118 People wanted to see a woman like her at the top of a company like this. 55 00:03:22,202 --> 00:03:23,620 This was really women-led, 56 00:03:23,703 --> 00:03:26,915 and I think that was important based on what OneTaste were teaching. 57 00:03:27,916 --> 00:03:32,212 Orgasmic meditation is a way to connect to yourself, connect to your partner, 58 00:03:32,295 --> 00:03:33,504 to feel more in your body. 59 00:03:33,588 --> 00:03:37,967 I'm a lot more physically close to people and less afraid of more affection, 60 00:03:38,051 --> 00:03:40,970 and it's teaching me to really ask for what I want 61 00:03:41,054 --> 00:03:43,765 and say the vulnerable thing that might be scary to say. 62 00:03:44,515 --> 00:03:47,894 At the fundamental level, we all want the same things. 63 00:03:47,977 --> 00:03:51,648 We want to love, be loved, see, be seen, 64 00:03:51,731 --> 00:03:53,733 know our purpose and feel connection. 65 00:03:54,317 --> 00:03:57,278 Nicole is very compelling. 66 00:03:57,362 --> 00:04:01,324 She's someone who put others at ease when she was around them... 67 00:04:01,407 --> 00:04:04,911 We love you all. Happy birthday! 68 00:04:04,994 --> 00:04:09,374 ...and whose special gift was setting a vision that people were excited about 69 00:04:09,457 --> 00:04:13,044 and were willing to do a lot of things in order to help advance. 70 00:04:13,127 --> 00:04:16,297 Go ahead and take a moment to really feel where you are 71 00:04:16,381 --> 00:04:18,591 and the people that came here tonight, 72 00:04:18,675 --> 00:04:22,136 maybe noticing, "Oh, I want to talk to that person later." 73 00:04:22,220 --> 00:04:23,846 Making contact. 74 00:04:24,597 --> 00:04:26,766 Maybe you're avoiding contact. 75 00:04:28,142 --> 00:04:29,143 Noticing 76 00:04:29,852 --> 00:04:31,354 the patterns. 77 00:04:32,230 --> 00:04:37,235 Women and relationships were always a mystery to me. 78 00:04:38,987 --> 00:04:43,408 And I didn't understand how to, like, find a girlfriend. 79 00:04:43,491 --> 00:04:45,076 But I wanted to get laid, 80 00:04:45,159 --> 00:04:47,036 and that was, like... 81 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,540 this, like, fly in the ointment, you know? 82 00:04:50,623 --> 00:04:52,834 I'd heard about OneTaste, 83 00:04:52,917 --> 00:04:56,754 and then finally, a friend of mine at the time was like, 84 00:04:56,838 --> 00:04:59,590 "Oh, we're gonna go to an in-group at OneTaste." 85 00:04:59,674 --> 00:05:01,217 "Do you wanna come with us?" 86 00:05:02,051 --> 00:05:04,470 The building was at 1074 Folsom. 87 00:05:04,554 --> 00:05:07,473 We walk in, and it's like this big, open space. 88 00:05:07,557 --> 00:05:09,934 Everybody's hanging around, talking, like, 89 00:05:10,018 --> 00:05:12,603 kind of like a cocktail party, almost. 90 00:05:13,104 --> 00:05:15,189 It's just, like, a warm, friendly vibe, 91 00:05:15,273 --> 00:05:19,068 which, to me at the time, is, like, odd, almost suspect. 92 00:05:19,152 --> 00:05:22,613 I was used to all the cocktail parties in the whole tech scene, 93 00:05:22,697 --> 00:05:25,158 where, you know, everybody's aloof. 94 00:05:25,241 --> 00:05:26,826 But this was totally different. 95 00:05:26,909 --> 00:05:30,788 Warm, open, friendly, and the person I'm sitting next to, 96 00:05:30,872 --> 00:05:33,458 there's this kind of presence that you feel, 97 00:05:33,541 --> 00:05:35,585 and then I look at her and I go, "Oh." 98 00:05:35,668 --> 00:05:39,172 'Cause on the website was the picture of the woman that founded OneTaste, 99 00:05:39,255 --> 00:05:40,465 Nicole Daedone, 100 00:05:40,548 --> 00:05:42,425 and I'm like, "Oh, you're Nicole." 101 00:05:43,092 --> 00:05:45,219 And then we just immediately started talking 102 00:05:45,303 --> 00:05:50,141 about the idea of integrating sexuality and spirituality. 103 00:05:50,224 --> 00:05:52,727 I don't think that there's anything... 104 00:05:54,937 --> 00:05:59,650 of a higher order than having my body feel so good 105 00:05:59,734 --> 00:06:01,861 that I emanate a good feeling... 106 00:06:03,446 --> 00:06:06,157 ...and that that good feeling can catch on to you, 107 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,826 and that we can begin to pass it on to each other. 108 00:06:08,910 --> 00:06:12,663 And when we feel good, strangely enough, we act well. 109 00:06:12,747 --> 00:06:18,002 So, there's this way that, it seems to me, all there really is to do is to be happy, 110 00:06:18,086 --> 00:06:23,925 so happy that it overflows and I have enough for you, 111 00:06:24,467 --> 00:06:29,263 and I want to share it in any way I possibly can with you. 112 00:06:29,847 --> 00:06:33,851 What happens in the face of really intense sensations 113 00:06:33,935 --> 00:06:38,898 is that the mind wants to go either toward really good or really bad. 114 00:06:38,981 --> 00:06:41,359 And that's what we tend to do with sexuality. 115 00:06:41,442 --> 00:06:44,612 It's either beautiful and beloved, 116 00:06:44,695 --> 00:06:47,490 or it's this nasty, evil thing. 117 00:06:47,573 --> 00:06:49,283 But we don't know how to move 118 00:06:49,367 --> 00:06:52,495 in the dynamic reality that occurs in between those poles. 119 00:06:53,454 --> 00:06:54,455 Hi. 120 00:06:54,539 --> 00:06:57,083 We are redefining what orgasm is. 121 00:06:57,166 --> 00:07:00,837 Everything you see on the wall is written by somebody who just came in 122 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,922 to write what orgasm is for them. 123 00:07:03,005 --> 00:07:06,759 OneTaste would have really low-key events, 124 00:07:06,843 --> 00:07:12,849 and the people who were working radiated this happiness or attractiveness. 125 00:07:12,932 --> 00:07:14,809 They invite you to do yoga with them, 126 00:07:14,892 --> 00:07:17,103 they invite you to help them run another event, 127 00:07:17,186 --> 00:07:18,980 and you get sort of swept up in it. 128 00:07:19,063 --> 00:07:24,110 Orgasm is awesome, orgasm is amazing, orgasm changed my life. 129 00:07:25,570 --> 00:07:29,365 Not only were all these happy, friendly people I was hanging out with 130 00:07:29,449 --> 00:07:31,784 part of this organization, they all lived together. 131 00:07:32,285 --> 00:07:34,036 Whoo! OneTaste rocks! 132 00:07:34,871 --> 00:07:37,039 Welcome to OneTaste San Francisco. 133 00:07:37,123 --> 00:07:41,002 I'm gonna take you all on a little tour inside the building. Come on in. 134 00:07:42,295 --> 00:07:45,465 This is Alicia, and she does orgasmic haircuts. 135 00:07:46,466 --> 00:07:47,717 Hi, guys. Hi. 136 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,594 My, how she uses her hands. 137 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,096 There's some yoga going on. 138 00:07:52,180 --> 00:07:54,474 Maybe we could take a quick little peek inside. 139 00:07:54,557 --> 00:07:58,311 - You can't film that. - This is the front of our warehouse. 140 00:07:58,394 --> 00:08:00,188 A little messy right now. 141 00:08:01,063 --> 00:08:02,523 Who left their laundry here? 142 00:08:02,607 --> 00:08:04,775 And this is our center during the day. 143 00:08:05,276 --> 00:08:08,112 I started reading online. There was, like, an online forum 144 00:08:08,196 --> 00:08:12,033 where people would post their comings and goings, 145 00:08:12,116 --> 00:08:15,453 like threesomes, foursomes, n-somes. 146 00:08:17,663 --> 00:08:19,832 So-and-so having a make-out with so-and-so, 147 00:08:19,916 --> 00:08:22,084 and so-and-so watching someone making out. 148 00:08:23,586 --> 00:08:26,547 I was like, "What is going on? Like, this can't be real." 149 00:08:26,631 --> 00:08:30,885 "This has gotta be all made up. I'm sure this isn't actually happening, 150 00:08:30,968 --> 00:08:34,055 and if it's happening, there's no way they're gonna let me in." 151 00:08:34,972 --> 00:08:38,476 But then, sure enough, no, it was the real deal. 152 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,686 One night I was living on a boat by myself, 153 00:08:40,770 --> 00:08:44,607 and the next night I was living in a warehouse with, like, 40 people 154 00:08:44,690 --> 00:08:46,692 and sharing a bed with my "research partner." 155 00:08:48,736 --> 00:08:52,698 I was, like, this nerdy techie guy by day, you know, 156 00:08:52,782 --> 00:08:54,617 fixing people's computer problems, 157 00:08:54,700 --> 00:08:56,869 and then I'd go home at night 158 00:08:56,953 --> 00:09:01,290 and, you know, be in the middle of this craziness. 159 00:09:05,545 --> 00:09:07,713 Welcome to OneTaste. 160 00:09:09,006 --> 00:09:11,968 Tell us, how do you do it, Alicia? How do you stay so sexy? 161 00:09:12,468 --> 00:09:16,389 I use my Amorepacific Treatment Cleansing Foam. 162 00:09:16,472 --> 00:09:19,225 Is that your secret? I thought it was orgasmic meditation. 163 00:09:19,308 --> 00:09:21,936 I OM... 164 00:09:22,019 --> 00:09:25,815 I OM every day and I use Amorepacific. 165 00:09:25,898 --> 00:09:28,776 I OM and I don't eat any sugar. 166 00:09:29,735 --> 00:09:32,488 And I always tell the truth. 167 00:09:35,408 --> 00:09:40,663 What does it mean to say that I'm a practitioner of orgasmic meditation? 168 00:09:41,289 --> 00:09:45,585 For purposes of simplicity, I'm going to describe it as a man and a woman, 169 00:09:45,668 --> 00:09:47,336 just so that I can say "he" and "she," 170 00:09:47,420 --> 00:09:53,009 but it can be all different, crazy configurations. 171 00:09:53,092 --> 00:09:55,428 Nicole is certainly a genius. 172 00:09:55,511 --> 00:09:58,931 Brilliant idea to name it an OMing session. 173 00:09:59,015 --> 00:10:00,850 An orgasmic meditation. 174 00:10:00,933 --> 00:10:05,146 Because there's so many seekers, so many spiritual seekers in the Bay Area 175 00:10:05,229 --> 00:10:06,522 and around the world. 176 00:10:06,606 --> 00:10:10,985 You've turned this sex practice into a spiritual practice. 177 00:10:11,777 --> 00:10:13,821 She will lie down. 178 00:10:14,322 --> 00:10:17,158 There'll be a pillow underneath her head, 179 00:10:17,241 --> 00:10:20,077 a pillow underneath each leg. 180 00:10:20,161 --> 00:10:22,371 She'll butterfly open her legs. 181 00:10:23,247 --> 00:10:29,629 And then he will get his finger onto her upper left-hand quadrant of her clitoris. 182 00:10:30,379 --> 00:10:36,010 The upper left-hand quadrant is a location that they have found, scientifically, 183 00:10:36,093 --> 00:10:38,429 to have a bundle of nerve endings. 184 00:10:38,512 --> 00:10:41,932 Some say 8,000, some say 800,000, I don't know. 185 00:10:42,016 --> 00:10:45,561 But they cannot find any reason for this bundle of nerve endings 186 00:10:45,645 --> 00:10:46,812 other than pleasure. 187 00:10:47,396 --> 00:10:50,149 The thing that will prevent you from knowing you hit the spot 188 00:10:50,232 --> 00:10:52,860 is hoping you're hitting the spot, not sure you hit the spot. 189 00:10:52,943 --> 00:10:56,614 "What's the spot? I'm never gonna find the spot. It's impossible." 190 00:10:56,697 --> 00:10:58,574 That will be the thing that will stop you 191 00:10:58,658 --> 00:11:03,329 from the natural human intuition of feeling this little, slightly electric... 192 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,417 You'll also know because she'll go... 193 00:11:11,379 --> 00:11:17,635 ...and she will not, in any way, at all, 194 00:11:17,718 --> 00:11:19,345 move her hips. 195 00:11:19,428 --> 00:11:21,764 She won't be doing weird moans. 196 00:11:21,847 --> 00:11:25,309 She'll just be what we call "nailed." 197 00:11:26,102 --> 00:11:29,063 So, then you will just stroke up, down, 198 00:11:29,146 --> 00:11:35,194 up, down, up, down, up, down, up, down, up, down. 199 00:11:35,277 --> 00:11:37,172 - What am I gonna say next? - "Up, down." 200 00:11:37,196 --> 00:11:39,573 There you go. For 15 minutes. 201 00:11:39,657 --> 00:11:40,700 It's so simple. 202 00:11:44,578 --> 00:11:47,957 The man, if he's a good doer, he'll start to say, 203 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,877 "The lips of your pussy are starting to fill with fluid, 204 00:11:51,961 --> 00:11:55,381 and the shades of pink and coral and ruby." 205 00:11:55,464 --> 00:11:59,427 "And starting to build tumescence," is a word that they used a lot, 206 00:11:59,510 --> 00:12:02,012 which was to build the turn-on, to build the energy. 207 00:12:02,596 --> 00:12:05,599 Lighter, faster strokes will bring somebody up, 208 00:12:06,308 --> 00:12:10,271 and then slower, firmer strokes will bring somebody down. 209 00:12:10,354 --> 00:12:13,983 So, you bring them up, and then you plateau them, 210 00:12:14,066 --> 00:12:15,943 then you bring 'em up, and then plateau 'em. 211 00:12:17,236 --> 00:12:20,197 This is how you hit 212 00:12:20,823 --> 00:12:24,994 the other dimension that you sense, in your body, 213 00:12:25,077 --> 00:12:28,247 is possible when you're having sex, 214 00:12:28,330 --> 00:12:30,291 and maybe that you glimpse, 215 00:12:30,374 --> 00:12:35,254 or that moment that you glimpse in orgasm, where there's just nothing... 216 00:12:35,337 --> 00:12:39,759 This is how you get to exist in that place sustainably. 217 00:12:41,177 --> 00:12:44,013 The stroking practice was phenomenal. 218 00:12:44,096 --> 00:12:46,599 And for me as a human being, you know, 219 00:12:46,682 --> 00:12:51,729 putting that much attention on just that one tiny spot on your index finger, 220 00:12:51,812 --> 00:12:54,690 touching the woman's clitoris, just stroking... 221 00:12:54,774 --> 00:12:59,320 And from that one point, it opens up all these channels as a man 222 00:12:59,403 --> 00:13:02,615 that I just never even knew were accessible to me. 223 00:13:02,698 --> 00:13:05,910 The idea that her toe would wiggle 224 00:13:05,993 --> 00:13:09,079 and I could feel a little tingle in my finger, 225 00:13:09,163 --> 00:13:10,998 that was, like, connected. 226 00:13:11,081 --> 00:13:14,585 And it was like, "What? Like, how is that even possible?" 227 00:13:14,668 --> 00:13:17,087 So, these are things that unfolded in the practice. 228 00:13:17,171 --> 00:13:20,216 Of course, when I started, I had no idea what I was doing, 229 00:13:20,299 --> 00:13:25,012 and I was lucky if I could even get on the clitoris. 230 00:13:26,305 --> 00:13:27,932 The guys here said, 231 00:13:28,015 --> 00:13:30,100 "All I want is to have more sex." 232 00:13:30,184 --> 00:13:32,186 "Please, please." 233 00:13:32,269 --> 00:13:35,523 They didn't realize they're immersed on an island of women who want sex. 234 00:13:35,606 --> 00:13:38,359 And so they were having, like, 20 OMs a day. 235 00:13:38,442 --> 00:13:40,152 Their little fingers were in braces, 236 00:13:40,236 --> 00:13:42,988 and they were, like, locking themselves behind the door. 237 00:13:43,072 --> 00:13:46,867 "Nicole, get me out of here. Please, no more sex!" 238 00:13:49,620 --> 00:13:53,916 I was like a lot of guys I knew in the tech world in San Francisco, 239 00:13:53,999 --> 00:13:57,002 starved for just basic physical affection. 240 00:13:57,086 --> 00:14:02,925 And OneTaste opened up this world of intimacy and connection and sex. 241 00:14:04,677 --> 00:14:08,889 What she was selling was an innovation in relating to your sexuality. 242 00:14:08,973 --> 00:14:11,767 The Bay Area is a place where people are gonna be attracted to 243 00:14:11,851 --> 00:14:13,227 and open to that kind of idea, 244 00:14:13,310 --> 00:14:17,690 and where they, frankly, might have a little extra money to buy courses. 245 00:14:21,485 --> 00:14:25,573 He said to me, "I'm gonna describe your pussy now. Is that all right with you?" 246 00:14:25,656 --> 00:14:29,326 I remember thinking I've never had somebody do that before. 247 00:14:29,410 --> 00:14:31,453 It felt like somebody touched 248 00:14:31,537 --> 00:14:33,873 the deepest part that existed inside of me. 249 00:14:33,956 --> 00:14:37,501 I felt so exposed and so vulnerable, 250 00:14:37,585 --> 00:14:41,338 and I remember thinking, "Oh my God, 251 00:14:41,422 --> 00:14:43,841 I don't think I've ever been that intimate 252 00:14:43,924 --> 00:14:46,385 with another human being before in my life." 253 00:14:47,511 --> 00:14:51,348 I've talked to many people who said orgasmic meditation changed their life, 254 00:14:51,432 --> 00:14:56,312 that it helped them experience sexual pleasure 255 00:14:56,395 --> 00:14:59,106 that they thought was unreachable for them. 256 00:14:59,189 --> 00:15:03,360 And especially women who said, "I've never had an orgasm before, 257 00:15:03,444 --> 00:15:07,823 and this helped me redefine what sexual pleasure could mean for me." 258 00:15:07,907 --> 00:15:10,701 "You know, I had felt like there was something wrong with me, 259 00:15:10,784 --> 00:15:14,413 and now there was this alternative that was presented to me 260 00:15:14,496 --> 00:15:18,709 that allowed me to embrace my body rather than feel ashamed." 261 00:15:19,335 --> 00:15:21,879 My first introduction to orgasmic meditation 262 00:15:21,962 --> 00:15:24,673 was when I saw a demo of OM. 263 00:15:24,757 --> 00:15:27,176 And I remember that night, it was like... 264 00:15:28,344 --> 00:15:29,678 It was like... 265 00:15:29,762 --> 00:15:32,473 Like, the finger found the spot. 266 00:15:32,556 --> 00:15:36,268 And I was just like, "Oh, I feel like my whole body, just, like, opened up." 267 00:15:37,311 --> 00:15:38,354 That's beautiful. 268 00:15:38,437 --> 00:15:39,647 - Thank you. - Yeah. 269 00:15:40,230 --> 00:15:41,941 Describe your sex to me. 270 00:15:43,025 --> 00:15:44,985 Timid and shy, 271 00:15:45,069 --> 00:15:48,989 which is frustrating at times, but I feel like I'm in the right place. 272 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,827 Over the course of my four years living and working at OneTaste, 273 00:15:53,911 --> 00:15:58,165 I became more relaxed and social in a way, and I think people could see it. 274 00:15:58,248 --> 00:16:02,461 I became okay with men giving me attention at work, 275 00:16:02,544 --> 00:16:06,507 I became friendlier towards them, and my career took off. 276 00:16:06,590 --> 00:16:10,719 I guess I owe that to learning a lot about men at OneTaste, you know. 277 00:16:10,803 --> 00:16:13,472 They were really, like, encouraging us to see 278 00:16:13,555 --> 00:16:16,350 the soft, sensitive, emotional sides of men. 279 00:16:19,353 --> 00:16:23,857 So this is the building that was what we called the center, 1074. 280 00:16:23,941 --> 00:16:26,902 That's where we would hang out most of the time during the day, 281 00:16:26,986 --> 00:16:31,156 and then upstairs was the yoga studio, but also the main classroom space 282 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,575 where we would hold practice every morning. 283 00:16:33,659 --> 00:16:36,036 And then this is 1060. 284 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,205 This was the warehouse. 285 00:16:38,288 --> 00:16:41,417 I always loved that there was that behind-the-red-door quality. 286 00:16:42,001 --> 00:16:46,380 Yeah, so now it's a BDSM dungeon and a play space. 287 00:16:49,008 --> 00:16:52,845 I remember the first bed I had was on this side, in the corner there, 288 00:16:52,928 --> 00:16:55,055 and then later on I had one here. 289 00:16:55,139 --> 00:16:57,224 I was sleeping in one right here at one point. 290 00:16:57,307 --> 00:16:58,434 I was up in the loft. 291 00:16:58,517 --> 00:17:02,021 Ten, 12, 13, 15... 292 00:17:02,104 --> 00:17:03,647 I mean, at least 15 beds. 293 00:17:03,731 --> 00:17:05,774 And I remember the first night I moved in, 294 00:17:05,858 --> 00:17:07,860 and it was nuts. 295 00:17:07,943 --> 00:17:12,114 Like, there was so much energy in my body. 296 00:17:12,197 --> 00:17:19,079 All the... Yeah, that buzzy, lively energy of... Of people... 297 00:17:19,163 --> 00:17:20,914 ...you know, exploring sex. 298 00:17:23,250 --> 00:17:26,295 You know, my mom died when I was 13 years old, 299 00:17:26,378 --> 00:17:32,634 and there's nothing that a 13-year-old kid can possibly be prepared for in any way 300 00:17:32,718 --> 00:17:37,056 to have that experience or lose someone that close to them. 301 00:17:37,890 --> 00:17:43,020 So, I think on some level, I was learning how to connect with women 302 00:17:43,103 --> 00:17:46,690 so that I could be able to let people come and go in my life 303 00:17:46,774 --> 00:17:49,735 and not feel the grippy attachment. 304 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,785 I was a software engineer in Silicon Valley. 305 00:17:57,868 --> 00:18:01,163 I was pretty successful, except in my personal life. 306 00:18:01,246 --> 00:18:03,624 I was just kind of a walking encyclopedia 307 00:18:03,707 --> 00:18:06,293 of all the ways you can be bad with the opposite sex. 308 00:18:07,252 --> 00:18:10,130 I had a few different nicknames at OneTaste. 309 00:18:10,214 --> 00:18:13,926 One of them was Yoda, and I think it's partly because of my stature. 310 00:18:14,009 --> 00:18:16,512 I'm 5'0". 311 00:18:16,595 --> 00:18:18,347 I'm five feet tall. 312 00:18:18,430 --> 00:18:20,057 And so, in a way that was good because 313 00:18:20,140 --> 00:18:25,229 I was a counterexample to all of the men who thought they had to be a certain thing 314 00:18:25,312 --> 00:18:28,357 in order to actually have good relationships with women. 315 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:32,152 We're in this place now where women are actually self-sufficient. 316 00:18:32,236 --> 00:18:35,155 They don't need men to protect them anymore, 317 00:18:35,239 --> 00:18:39,785 or to care for them anymore, or to, like, provide for them anymore. 318 00:18:39,868 --> 00:18:42,955 So, what can men do, right? 319 00:18:43,497 --> 00:18:47,876 What women want is someone who's actually there meeting them as an equal 320 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,378 and ready to play. 321 00:18:49,878 --> 00:18:52,005 I think OneTaste was a place where 322 00:18:52,089 --> 00:18:55,384 really what we were doing was increasing human connection, 323 00:18:55,467 --> 00:18:57,010 and researching human connection. 324 00:18:57,094 --> 00:18:59,596 Like, what happens when you are vulnerable with someone? 325 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,016 What happens when you are more truthful than you've ever been with someone? 326 00:19:03,100 --> 00:19:06,770 And what happens when you expose your clitoris to someone? 327 00:19:06,854 --> 00:19:10,315 All of this stuff that people avoid because it's so scary 328 00:19:10,399 --> 00:19:12,734 is precisely where people need to go 329 00:19:12,818 --> 00:19:17,573 in order to have true, nourishing human connection. 330 00:19:18,157 --> 00:19:20,909 The best thing you have to lose is that sense of hopelessness 331 00:19:20,993 --> 00:19:26,957 that you will ever... be reached deep inside. 332 00:19:27,958 --> 00:19:32,337 I probably re-watched that TED Talk, like, 20 or 30 times. 333 00:19:32,421 --> 00:19:36,341 I really felt like something she was saying in that talk touched me. 334 00:19:36,425 --> 00:19:38,927 Like, something about it was more than sexuality, 335 00:19:39,011 --> 00:19:41,430 it's about real connection and realness. 336 00:19:41,513 --> 00:19:44,641 You get to have this most profound and deep experience 337 00:19:44,725 --> 00:19:46,310 with another human being. 338 00:19:47,352 --> 00:19:50,939 There's a certain magic that comes from putting attention on other people, 339 00:19:51,023 --> 00:19:56,445 instead of always focusing on your needs and your wants and your goals, which... 340 00:19:56,528 --> 00:19:58,071 In OneTaste, through OMing, 341 00:19:58,155 --> 00:20:01,575 we learned how to really put our attention on other people's feelings, 342 00:20:01,658 --> 00:20:03,410 which is basically what empathy is. 343 00:20:04,620 --> 00:20:07,206 But not just, like, "I can feel when you're happy or sad." 344 00:20:07,289 --> 00:20:11,084 But like, I can feel the moment that you think I'm lying, 345 00:20:11,168 --> 00:20:13,837 or I can feel the moment that, like, you pull back. 346 00:20:13,921 --> 00:20:15,839 Precision with empathy. 347 00:20:22,888 --> 00:20:25,641 It felt so good to feel like you're helping them help people. 348 00:20:28,936 --> 00:20:31,688 Whoo! 349 00:20:32,981 --> 00:20:35,734 It's like our lives are such a good TV show. 350 00:20:36,735 --> 00:20:40,322 Just to watch it, like, in real, like, real time. 351 00:20:40,405 --> 00:20:41,531 Hmm. 352 00:20:41,615 --> 00:20:45,744 And I'm so grateful that, like, life is just so interesting. 353 00:20:45,827 --> 00:20:46,912 Mm-hm. 354 00:20:47,996 --> 00:20:51,667 In high school, my anxiety was, like, almost debilitating. 355 00:20:51,750 --> 00:20:54,419 In my early twenties, I learned how to put a mask over it. 356 00:20:54,503 --> 00:20:55,712 I still had anxiety 357 00:20:55,796 --> 00:20:58,507 and I still felt terrible most of the time. 358 00:20:58,590 --> 00:21:02,261 So, to be, you know, in a space where I could really be real, 359 00:21:02,344 --> 00:21:04,805 it was like incredible medicine for me. 360 00:21:04,888 --> 00:21:08,016 We're gonna do this exercise three times. 361 00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:11,812 My first class, the first half of the day was Nicole speaking to people, 362 00:21:11,895 --> 00:21:14,856 giving impromptu coaching. Giving them "strokes" was the term. 363 00:21:14,940 --> 00:21:16,024 That was life-changing, 364 00:21:16,108 --> 00:21:18,527 because she could cold-read people with such accuracy 365 00:21:18,610 --> 00:21:20,279 that, if you're open to it, 366 00:21:20,362 --> 00:21:23,573 it could maybe change your life, give you a new perspective. 367 00:21:23,657 --> 00:21:25,534 She'd say, like, "What are you here for?" 368 00:21:25,617 --> 00:21:28,120 For some people she'd just say "Thank you'" and move on. 369 00:21:28,203 --> 00:21:32,499 And when it got to me, I was starting to say something mundane like, 370 00:21:32,582 --> 00:21:34,960 "Oh, sex is interesting, so I signed up for this class," 371 00:21:35,043 --> 00:21:37,421 and I could see she was already turning away from me, 372 00:21:37,504 --> 00:21:40,048 like that wasn't a good answer. So she was gonna shift, 373 00:21:40,132 --> 00:21:44,177 and then I just blurted out, "I want to connect with people for real." 374 00:21:44,261 --> 00:21:47,306 And she turns back to me, and it felt, you know... 375 00:21:47,389 --> 00:21:49,182 It felt really good to get her attention. 376 00:21:49,266 --> 00:21:54,980 Ultimately, what we're aiming for is to create a permanent meeting space. 377 00:21:55,063 --> 00:21:59,568 So, no matter how whackadoodle she gets when she's stuck up here in her ego, 378 00:21:59,651 --> 00:22:01,862 she knows that I can get in there. 379 00:22:02,696 --> 00:22:06,033 And she read me and she said, "I know why you don't connect with people." 380 00:22:06,116 --> 00:22:08,535 "It's like you're trying to stay in this tonal range." 381 00:22:08,618 --> 00:22:11,371 "It's a nice range, but you're denying people the whole spectrum." 382 00:22:11,455 --> 00:22:13,957 "You trying to act like a super cute frat boy, 383 00:22:14,041 --> 00:22:15,834 who says everything's cool all the time, 384 00:22:15,917 --> 00:22:18,253 when really you're a dark, dangerous man." 385 00:22:18,337 --> 00:22:21,381 And no one had ever spoken to me like that before. 386 00:22:21,965 --> 00:22:24,718 I don't know if she was reading something in me for real 387 00:22:24,801 --> 00:22:27,012 or reading something that I wanted to be true, 388 00:22:27,095 --> 00:22:30,140 but it felt like the most resonant thing anyone had said to me. 389 00:22:30,223 --> 00:22:35,395 I did feel like I put up a facade with people to be liked, 390 00:22:35,479 --> 00:22:40,067 but inside I was angry, I was frustrated, you know, I felt dark inside. 391 00:22:40,776 --> 00:22:43,862 It was life-changing, just that beginning before I ever OMed. 392 00:22:43,945 --> 00:22:45,864 I got over a fear of being seen, 393 00:22:45,947 --> 00:22:48,784 a fear of vulnerability that I had my entire life. 394 00:22:52,079 --> 00:22:54,081 Hey, would you like to have an OM? 395 00:22:54,164 --> 00:22:55,164 Sure. 396 00:22:55,207 --> 00:22:58,001 Okay. I've only done it once or twice though. 397 00:22:58,085 --> 00:22:59,252 That's okay. 398 00:23:00,379 --> 00:23:03,048 - When's a good time? - Uh, now if you're not busy. 399 00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:05,717 All right, let's go. 400 00:23:05,801 --> 00:23:09,054 OneTaste, the idea was to get this thing out into the world, right? 401 00:23:09,137 --> 00:23:12,099 Well, it became evident pretty quickly that I could, like, 402 00:23:12,182 --> 00:23:14,476 shoot video and tell a little story, 403 00:23:14,559 --> 00:23:16,895 and, like, boom, we've got, you know, some media. 404 00:23:19,481 --> 00:23:24,986 So this is what you need to know to truly learn how to handle a woman's pussy. 405 00:23:25,070 --> 00:23:29,241 That's right. We just said, "Learn to handle a woman's pussy." 406 00:23:30,409 --> 00:23:33,161 Nicole, she wanted to leverage that, you know, right away. 407 00:23:33,245 --> 00:23:36,456 And so that sort of became my raison d'être... 408 00:23:39,167 --> 00:23:41,128 and eventually became my real raison d'etre. 409 00:23:41,211 --> 00:23:45,424 Like, I quit my job so that I could be the video guy for OneTaste. 410 00:23:49,302 --> 00:23:51,638 "Your sex is not a problem." 411 00:23:51,721 --> 00:23:55,183 "We've been living in a paradigm of wrong for too long." 412 00:23:55,267 --> 00:23:59,354 And what if you could learn how to become a master of the vagina? 413 00:23:59,438 --> 00:24:03,024 Today, we're going to discuss why everyone is going to be happier 414 00:24:03,108 --> 00:24:06,778 when you learn how to give a woman a 15-minute orgasm. 415 00:24:12,617 --> 00:24:15,620 If you all don't know, Nicole's first book was released 416 00:24:15,704 --> 00:24:19,249 on May 25th, Slow Sex: The Art and Craft of the Female Orgasm. 417 00:24:19,332 --> 00:24:23,795 And it's come out to some really great reviews and publicity. 418 00:24:23,879 --> 00:24:28,925 Just this weekend, Nicole was at TEDxSF giving a lecture to 750 people... 419 00:24:29,009 --> 00:24:33,054 This was a practice that intrigued reporters whenever they heard about it. 420 00:24:33,138 --> 00:24:35,640 It was like, "Orgasmic meditation? Like, what is that?" 421 00:24:35,724 --> 00:24:36,600 Fifteen minutes? 422 00:24:36,683 --> 00:24:37,517 Fifteen minutes. 423 00:24:37,601 --> 00:24:39,019 That's a lot of orgasm. 424 00:24:39,102 --> 00:24:41,813 That's a lot of orgasm. Yeah. 425 00:24:41,897 --> 00:24:45,525 The OneTaste Urban Retreat, not your average yoga studio. 426 00:24:45,609 --> 00:24:51,615 The pants come off the women, and soon, the studio erupts in female ecstasy. 427 00:24:52,115 --> 00:24:55,285 Nicole knew that it couldn't be so kooky, 428 00:24:55,368 --> 00:24:58,788 you know, and it had to become more about wellness, 429 00:24:58,872 --> 00:25:01,750 more about women feeling empowered. 430 00:25:01,833 --> 00:25:03,227 A visual testimony 431 00:25:03,251 --> 00:25:05,253 on how orgasmic meditation is practiced. 432 00:25:05,337 --> 00:25:09,841 They started having offices in Los Angeles, New York, London. 433 00:25:09,925 --> 00:25:11,718 They started expanding internationally... 434 00:25:11,801 --> 00:25:13,762 The statistics are terrible. 435 00:25:13,845 --> 00:25:20,560 Thirty percent of women self-report that they don't reach orgasm when they want to. 436 00:25:20,644 --> 00:25:24,231 In 2013 and 2014, they held these conferences, 437 00:25:24,314 --> 00:25:26,733 weekend-long conferences with thousands of attendees. 438 00:25:26,816 --> 00:25:30,946 Thank you for coming to OMX! 439 00:25:31,029 --> 00:25:35,992 They just started collecting more and more money from sales of courses. 440 00:25:36,076 --> 00:25:38,995 At one point, OneTaste started selling a thing called membership 441 00:25:39,079 --> 00:25:41,122 that was, like, $50,000-plus, 442 00:25:41,206 --> 00:25:46,336 which allowed whoever the customer was to take any class for the whole year. 443 00:25:47,087 --> 00:25:49,172 By the time 2017 came around, 444 00:25:49,256 --> 00:25:52,259 the company had about $12 million in revenue. 445 00:25:52,342 --> 00:25:57,764 That was the year that they were on a list of fast-growing startups by Inc. magazine. 446 00:25:57,847 --> 00:26:02,811 And it was a reflection of Nicole's desire to make OneTaste mainstream. 447 00:26:02,894 --> 00:26:04,521 I'm Gwyneth Paltrow, 448 00:26:04,604 --> 00:26:06,523 and you're listening to the Goop Podcast. 449 00:26:06,606 --> 00:26:10,819 Today's guest is the very magnetic Nicole Daedone. She's a... 450 00:26:10,902 --> 00:26:14,030 OneTaste caught the eye of really influential people, 451 00:26:14,114 --> 00:26:15,782 in particular, Gwyneth Paltrow, 452 00:26:15,865 --> 00:26:19,119 who was not only someone who's very influential in Hollywood, 453 00:26:19,202 --> 00:26:22,372 but also someone who's this, like, wellness god. 454 00:26:22,455 --> 00:26:25,000 Nicole is also the author of Slow Sex, 455 00:26:25,083 --> 00:26:27,043 which is a book I often recommend to women 456 00:26:27,127 --> 00:26:30,171 who are looking for more desire in their relationships. 457 00:26:30,922 --> 00:26:33,550 I really wonder if she was trying to do an L. Ron Hubbard. 458 00:26:33,633 --> 00:26:35,176 "Let's get some famous people in." 459 00:26:35,260 --> 00:26:40,307 That was one of the many brilliant things the founder of Scientology came up with, 460 00:26:40,390 --> 00:26:42,475 was the power of celebrity. 461 00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:45,437 "If we can get movie stars, music stars, 462 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,982 and people like that in our ranks as our public face, 463 00:26:49,065 --> 00:26:52,819 boy, that makes us really attractive to your average Joe or Jill out there." 464 00:26:52,902 --> 00:26:54,404 And he was absolutely right. 465 00:26:54,487 --> 00:26:57,699 And so, I could see her kind of following that lead as well. 466 00:27:00,869 --> 00:27:02,287 In late 2017, 467 00:27:02,370 --> 00:27:08,084 I was contacted by a woman who works in communications, 468 00:27:08,168 --> 00:27:10,128 and she said, "Hey, can we talk on the phone?" 469 00:27:10,211 --> 00:27:12,589 "I have a story I think might be interesting to you." 470 00:27:12,672 --> 00:27:18,136 "It's about a fast-growing company run by women in the wellness space, 471 00:27:18,219 --> 00:27:19,512 and it's called OneTaste." 472 00:27:20,347 --> 00:27:24,100 And this was in 2017, and the #MeToo movement was just getting going. 473 00:27:24,184 --> 00:27:26,394 And I remember the way she pitched it was, 474 00:27:26,478 --> 00:27:29,022 "You know, this is a company that's gonna help people 475 00:27:29,105 --> 00:27:32,484 connect with each other in a way that is gonna help mitigate 476 00:27:32,567 --> 00:27:35,111 some pain we've seen come up with the #MeToo movement, 477 00:27:35,195 --> 00:27:38,114 because it helps people be more sensitive to each other's needs." 478 00:27:38,198 --> 00:27:42,994 And I mentioned to a friend of mine that I was considering writing about OneTaste. 479 00:27:43,078 --> 00:27:45,789 And my friend told me, "I know somebody you should talk to." 480 00:27:45,872 --> 00:27:48,792 "They used to be a customer of this company 481 00:27:48,875 --> 00:27:50,877 and they had a pretty bad experience." 482 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,631 So, I ended up having a long conversation with this person for several hours, 483 00:27:54,714 --> 00:27:55,632 hearing their story. 484 00:27:55,715 --> 00:27:57,759 And at the end of that, I thought to myself, 485 00:27:57,842 --> 00:27:59,469 "Wow, this is really different 486 00:27:59,552 --> 00:28:02,555 from any of the reporting that's out there about OneTaste currently, 487 00:28:02,639 --> 00:28:04,849 and this might be a big story." 488 00:28:07,477 --> 00:28:10,355 When you are looking at Nicole, 489 00:28:11,022 --> 00:28:13,608 you're looking at Nicole and she's looking back, 490 00:28:13,692 --> 00:28:15,694 and she locks into your eyes, 491 00:28:16,486 --> 00:28:21,449 it is like you are being completely seen, like, down to your soul, 492 00:28:21,533 --> 00:28:25,578 including everything, yuck and all, especially yuck. 493 00:28:25,662 --> 00:28:30,083 And while you're being, like, embraced in this gaze, 494 00:28:30,166 --> 00:28:34,587 also being, you know, picked apart like you're under a microscope. 495 00:28:34,671 --> 00:28:38,216 And so she starts playing this game with me, which is pulling desires. 496 00:28:38,299 --> 00:28:39,968 And so she says, "What do you want?" 497 00:28:40,051 --> 00:28:43,388 So, you know, she's fish... She's pulling them out, so I say, 498 00:28:43,471 --> 00:28:45,724 "I want to have more sex, I to have want more orgasm." 499 00:28:45,807 --> 00:28:47,767 "I want to have more fun, I want more community." 500 00:28:47,851 --> 00:28:51,896 So, she's going, "Come on, what else?" This is how this goes. 501 00:28:51,980 --> 00:28:56,526 And so, finally, I get down in my belly, in my womb, to like, 502 00:28:57,610 --> 00:29:01,364 "Wow." And I had never spoken it out loud, and I said, 503 00:29:01,448 --> 00:29:03,283 "I want to have a baby." 504 00:29:03,908 --> 00:29:04,909 And I was like... 505 00:29:04,993 --> 00:29:08,288 And she's like, "Not so fast. What else?" 506 00:29:08,371 --> 00:29:10,081 I was like, "That's it." 507 00:29:10,165 --> 00:29:11,166 "What else?" 508 00:29:11,249 --> 00:29:14,753 And so finally I say, "Okay, I wanna have a demo." 509 00:29:14,836 --> 00:29:18,465 A demo is a demonstration of a woman in orgasm for an hour. 510 00:29:18,548 --> 00:29:21,050 And Nicole goes... And she looks around. 511 00:29:21,134 --> 00:29:23,845 "Did you hear that? We hit bottom." 512 00:29:23,928 --> 00:29:26,973 "That was it. That's the bottom desire." 513 00:29:27,891 --> 00:29:31,186 And so, here I have said, in front of all these people, 514 00:29:31,269 --> 00:29:32,896 that I wanna have a demo, 515 00:29:32,979 --> 00:29:35,732 knowing full well that that was not at the bottom. 516 00:29:35,815 --> 00:29:37,358 That was Nicole's desire. 517 00:29:37,442 --> 00:29:41,112 So, I was just fully giving over to Nicole. 518 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,117 The type of personal reflection that they encouraged us to do 519 00:29:46,201 --> 00:29:48,870 was all about finding your deeper desire. 520 00:29:48,953 --> 00:29:52,624 Yet, they would do this complicated psychological thing 521 00:29:52,707 --> 00:29:58,338 of inserting their desire into you and telling you that it's yours. 522 00:29:58,421 --> 00:30:00,632 What's your real big desire? 523 00:30:00,715 --> 00:30:04,219 What's your real big, deep desire? What turns on your pussy? 524 00:30:04,886 --> 00:30:09,349 - I want to coach and teach for OneTaste. - Fuck, that's awesome. 525 00:30:09,432 --> 00:30:11,518 "This is how Nicole manipulated people." 526 00:30:11,601 --> 00:30:15,396 "She agreed that something was true if it matched what she wanted to hear." 527 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,358 "If you said something she didn't like, she called it a lie, 528 00:30:18,441 --> 00:30:20,527 or, 'That's not the end of your desire.'" 529 00:30:20,610 --> 00:30:24,030 "If you had any doubt, she knew how to increase that doubt 530 00:30:24,113 --> 00:30:29,244 until what she told you was true became what you believed." 531 00:30:29,327 --> 00:30:33,248 So, Bill and I pay Nicole $15,000, 532 00:30:33,331 --> 00:30:36,251 which, according to Nicole, at the time was a very good deal, 533 00:30:36,334 --> 00:30:39,212 and my course begins. 534 00:30:44,801 --> 00:30:47,303 A lot of people described to me going to some event 535 00:30:47,387 --> 00:30:49,722 where they were first exposed to OneTaste, 536 00:30:49,806 --> 00:30:54,060 and maybe there was an explicit pitch for the company or taking a class. 537 00:30:54,143 --> 00:30:58,064 I'm gonna have one of our sales associates Lindsay come up and talk to you 538 00:30:58,147 --> 00:31:00,775 about a special offer for all of you for attending tonight, 539 00:31:00,859 --> 00:31:02,569 and also for being on the web. 540 00:31:02,652 --> 00:31:05,488 And then the pitch just gets bigger and bigger. 541 00:31:06,114 --> 00:31:09,367 "Why don't you take this week-long, intensive class?" 542 00:31:09,450 --> 00:31:12,328 "Come and learn from Nicole, or come help us teach a class." 543 00:31:12,412 --> 00:31:14,539 "Why don't you come help us with sales?" 544 00:31:14,622 --> 00:31:19,794 We need an initiation ceremony or something edgier. 545 00:31:19,878 --> 00:31:22,213 We need something that they are locked in, 546 00:31:22,297 --> 00:31:25,466 they are in for the full weekend, for the full ride. 547 00:31:26,342 --> 00:31:29,429 Rachel would be pitching the $15,000 coaching program. 548 00:31:29,512 --> 00:31:33,349 And at the time, I was just barely making ends meet as a freelance writer, 549 00:31:33,433 --> 00:31:36,728 but somehow, it felt so good to meet with her for a sales call anyway. 550 00:31:36,811 --> 00:31:39,981 I told her in the beginning, "I don't have money, I can't buy anything," 551 00:31:40,064 --> 00:31:44,611 and she just made it feel good to come hang out with her and talk about my life. 552 00:31:44,694 --> 00:31:46,654 And similar to my experience with Nicole, 553 00:31:46,738 --> 00:31:49,490 I felt so good and so seen afterwards. 554 00:31:49,574 --> 00:31:52,243 So when she asked, "Do you want to take the coaching program?" 555 00:31:52,327 --> 00:31:54,412 "We can put you on our payment plan," 556 00:31:54,495 --> 00:31:58,458 I found myself giving her my credit card before I even realized. 557 00:31:58,541 --> 00:32:00,126 So I gave her, you know, this card. 558 00:32:00,209 --> 00:32:03,338 It was $1,000 a month, which put me into debt immediately. 559 00:32:03,421 --> 00:32:08,134 But then afterwards, I had to justify my purchase, and that put me in deeper. 560 00:32:09,886 --> 00:32:14,140 I've had people describe to me this sales tactic of, 561 00:32:14,223 --> 00:32:17,435 we play some sort of communication game like hot seat. 562 00:32:17,518 --> 00:32:20,118 Someone's sitting in the middle, being asked a bunch of questions. 563 00:32:20,188 --> 00:32:23,066 And in the back, OneTaste staff are taking notes. 564 00:32:23,149 --> 00:32:26,277 They're writing down, you know, "This person's recently divorced." 565 00:32:26,361 --> 00:32:28,488 "This man feels unsure how to approach women." 566 00:32:28,571 --> 00:32:32,200 And then they strategize about who's the best OneTaste staffer 567 00:32:32,283 --> 00:32:36,079 to be sent over to that customer to try to win them over. 568 00:32:36,913 --> 00:32:40,667 Imagine you come to me and you say, like, "Well, yeah, I'm interested in OneTaste 569 00:32:40,750 --> 00:32:44,462 because, you know, I've had trouble keeping a long-term relationship," 570 00:32:44,545 --> 00:32:46,005 and I'd ask you something like, 571 00:32:46,089 --> 00:32:49,258 "Can you imagine if that were true for the rest of your life?" 572 00:32:49,926 --> 00:32:52,178 You make the pain bigger, 573 00:32:52,261 --> 00:32:55,890 so that what you offer as a solution sounds more appealing. 574 00:32:56,975 --> 00:32:59,268 Nicole's very brilliant at seeing wounding. 575 00:32:59,352 --> 00:33:01,562 And so that's what she hooks into, 576 00:33:01,646 --> 00:33:04,399 and then becomes the salve of that wounding. 577 00:33:04,482 --> 00:33:08,027 So then, you're not feeling the wound when you're in her presence, 578 00:33:08,111 --> 00:33:10,822 but you're reliant upon her to guide you. 579 00:33:11,656 --> 00:33:15,743 And then, on top of that, there was this very strong connection between 580 00:33:15,827 --> 00:33:20,540 how well you were doing spiritually in the OneTaste teachings 581 00:33:20,623 --> 00:33:22,333 and your ability to sell courses. 582 00:33:22,834 --> 00:33:25,378 They really saw that as connected, they thought that 583 00:33:25,461 --> 00:33:28,047 a more turned-on woman would sell courses better 584 00:33:28,131 --> 00:33:31,134 because they would be projecting their turn-on to the customers, 585 00:33:31,217 --> 00:33:33,803 where it was almost like channeling this divine force 586 00:33:33,886 --> 00:33:38,141 that would help you in such an earthly pursuit as closing a sale. 587 00:33:39,809 --> 00:33:41,686 "I'm a turned-on pussy, 588 00:33:41,769 --> 00:33:46,107 feeling and savoring every stroke going through me, 589 00:33:46,190 --> 00:33:49,610 sent back out with power and love to shine." 590 00:33:50,153 --> 00:33:51,738 Yeah! 591 00:33:53,322 --> 00:33:57,702 We were supposed to talk about cock, 592 00:33:57,785 --> 00:34:03,499 like, talk about, like, crass, nitty-gritty sexual stuff, 593 00:34:03,583 --> 00:34:06,419 'cause that's hot, that's what we're trying to do at OneTaste. 594 00:34:06,502 --> 00:34:07,795 You know, it turns people on 595 00:34:07,879 --> 00:34:09,797 when they get that flutter in their stomach 596 00:34:09,881 --> 00:34:12,383 when you just said, like, "cock" or "pussy," 597 00:34:12,467 --> 00:34:15,511 which actually probably, like, embarrasses people. 598 00:34:15,595 --> 00:34:20,141 I don't know if that's turn-on or discomfort. 599 00:34:27,273 --> 00:34:29,150 At one point Nicole is, like, 600 00:34:29,233 --> 00:34:32,445 "We're gonna teach this thing called 'orgasmic rebalancing.'" 601 00:34:32,528 --> 00:34:36,574 And she did a demo of what orgasmic rebalancing was. 602 00:34:36,657 --> 00:34:38,910 You know, you can kind of see from the footage, 603 00:34:38,993 --> 00:34:42,872 the closest thing would be like reiki, where you're moving energy in the body. 604 00:34:42,955 --> 00:34:45,249 I'm sure the footage... I haven't looked at it in a while, 605 00:34:45,333 --> 00:34:47,085 but I'm sure it looks crazy. 606 00:34:54,926 --> 00:34:57,303 I was immediately taken by Nicole. 607 00:34:57,386 --> 00:35:00,473 I thought she was just very charismatic, 608 00:35:00,556 --> 00:35:03,684 but at the same time, I could see that she was a hustler. 609 00:35:10,983 --> 00:35:14,112 Tell me a bit about that. Is Nicole Daedone a con artist? 610 00:35:14,195 --> 00:35:15,196 Yeah. 611 00:35:15,863 --> 00:35:18,074 You got to dissect that word though. 612 00:35:18,825 --> 00:35:20,284 It means "confidence." 613 00:35:20,368 --> 00:35:25,081 It's like, yeah, she can say things in such an enthusiastic way 614 00:35:25,164 --> 00:35:30,461 and have so much knowledge around it that she is a fantastic salesman. 615 00:36:17,175 --> 00:36:22,513 I am interested in letting my body be used 616 00:36:22,597 --> 00:36:26,517 in the transmission of the experiences that have been given to me. 617 00:36:28,060 --> 00:36:29,770 There is an experience of beauty 618 00:36:29,854 --> 00:36:32,565 that one feels when something is in harmony. 619 00:36:33,232 --> 00:36:35,151 This was that kind of beauty. 620 00:36:35,902 --> 00:36:37,737 Today, I am immersed in it. 621 00:36:39,363 --> 00:36:43,034 I feel here that there is something inside of me connected to everything. 622 00:36:47,997 --> 00:36:52,501 There's an intimacy that I feel with my partner, the bed, the plants. 623 00:36:52,585 --> 00:36:55,254 The world becomes one giant network of neurons, 624 00:36:55,338 --> 00:36:58,466 and this entity that I call Nicole is part of this. 625 00:37:09,185 --> 00:37:11,745 If you're looking at that footage from the Stinson demo, 626 00:37:11,771 --> 00:37:13,314 what you're seeing is... 627 00:37:14,523 --> 00:37:16,525 batshit nuts. Come on. 628 00:37:16,609 --> 00:37:21,072 Someone's up there, completely naked, getting her pussy stroked, 629 00:37:21,155 --> 00:37:23,407 there's someone with snakes there and... 630 00:37:23,491 --> 00:37:26,744 Right? Like, all this stuff... Like, what is going on? 631 00:37:27,245 --> 00:37:28,788 And to me... 632 00:37:28,871 --> 00:37:34,585 ...all that stuff was just there to create a certain kind of aura 633 00:37:34,669 --> 00:37:37,880 for the people in the room, like investors. 634 00:37:38,381 --> 00:37:40,591 I wonder if the New York Times reporter was there. 635 00:37:42,510 --> 00:37:44,470 The Stinson Beach demo, 636 00:37:44,553 --> 00:37:47,181 it's very intense. It seems like... 637 00:37:47,265 --> 00:37:49,684 Sometimes she's laughing, sometimes she's crying. 638 00:37:49,767 --> 00:37:51,602 There's a lot of moaning. 639 00:37:51,686 --> 00:37:54,897 You hear people in the audience expressing their sensations. 640 00:37:54,981 --> 00:37:59,735 You know, "It's like a warmth in my belly, or like a tingling in my face." 641 00:37:59,819 --> 00:38:02,530 Rachel Cherwitz shepherds some of the audience members up 642 00:38:02,613 --> 00:38:07,743 to, like, touch Nicole's thigh while the demo is going on. 643 00:38:07,827 --> 00:38:09,745 They describe it like it's meant to be like 644 00:38:09,829 --> 00:38:12,123 you can feel the energy of this experience. 645 00:38:12,206 --> 00:38:16,752 You realize, "Holy shit, I'm actually experiencing things 646 00:38:16,836 --> 00:38:21,007 in tandem with this woman who's getting stroked in front of me." 647 00:38:21,090 --> 00:38:23,968 "Like, I'm actually feeling stuff in my body too." 648 00:38:24,051 --> 00:38:28,180 And even though I think most people would watch that and think, like, this is 649 00:38:28,264 --> 00:38:29,932 bananas... Um... 650 00:38:30,850 --> 00:38:34,395 it looks like the people in the room feel like something really is happening. 651 00:38:34,478 --> 00:38:36,981 I hope you really got a sense tonight 652 00:38:37,606 --> 00:38:44,322 of what it's like to have a woman, a fully-trained woman, get off. 653 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,200 And see the places that she can go. 654 00:38:50,077 --> 00:38:51,662 It's just unmatched. 655 00:38:53,998 --> 00:38:57,376 I mean, there's nobody else that... who I stroke, 656 00:38:57,460 --> 00:38:59,837 that can do what she does, 657 00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:04,258 and I want all of you to be able to do what she does. 658 00:39:04,342 --> 00:39:05,384 I'm in agreement. 659 00:39:05,468 --> 00:39:06,528 - Please. - Me too. 660 00:39:09,597 --> 00:39:11,390 When I took the course, 661 00:39:11,474 --> 00:39:15,686 by that point, we had both female and male OMing, 662 00:39:15,770 --> 00:39:20,399 and my partner was very skittish about doing a male. 663 00:39:20,483 --> 00:39:23,903 So, Nicole stepped in personally, 664 00:39:23,986 --> 00:39:25,738 and I had a meltdown. 665 00:39:25,821 --> 00:39:29,492 I started shivering, crying. 666 00:39:29,575 --> 00:39:31,577 Tears were rolling down my cheeks. 667 00:39:31,660 --> 00:39:37,166 Then she sort of moved me to her breasts and started stroking my head. 668 00:39:37,249 --> 00:39:40,669 And the part of me that wasn't having a meltdown, 669 00:39:40,753 --> 00:39:43,547 the rational little control center there, 670 00:39:43,631 --> 00:39:47,468 was thinking, "Oh yes, Nicole, I know what you're up to." 671 00:39:47,551 --> 00:39:51,555 "You're making yourself my mommy." 672 00:39:51,639 --> 00:39:55,684 "You're holding me gently, tenderly in your lap 673 00:39:55,768 --> 00:40:00,314 next to your breasts, and stroking my head and looking lovingly at me." 674 00:40:01,399 --> 00:40:04,527 "You're trying to imprint me as mom." 675 00:40:05,361 --> 00:40:07,029 It didn't work. 676 00:40:07,113 --> 00:40:12,785 I guess if I didn't have that little skeptical bit in my consciousness, 677 00:40:12,868 --> 00:40:17,206 maybe I would've really bonded with her. Maybe I would've gone all in for OneTaste 678 00:40:17,289 --> 00:40:20,376 and been one of her really fervent members and defenders. 679 00:40:20,459 --> 00:40:22,294 But I didn't. 680 00:40:22,795 --> 00:40:25,297 You're all welcome to come get stroked, 681 00:40:25,381 --> 00:40:29,510 and we have darshan from 11:00 to 1:00, Monday through Friday. 682 00:40:29,593 --> 00:40:34,515 and it would be my honor to stroke anybody in this room 683 00:40:34,598 --> 00:40:35,808 and have you have... 684 00:40:35,891 --> 00:40:38,727 If you look at Zen Buddhism or any of these things, 685 00:40:38,811 --> 00:40:44,066 there's levels of being ready for the next piece of truth. 686 00:40:44,150 --> 00:40:48,237 Whenever it became public that there was also a male stroking practice, 687 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,573 all the men were like, "I want that, I need that." 688 00:40:50,656 --> 00:40:53,701 Like, "I empathize with what these women experience about starving." 689 00:40:53,784 --> 00:40:55,911 "I'm starving too, I wanna get stroked as well." 690 00:40:55,995 --> 00:40:58,456 And it would become a quagmire. 691 00:40:58,539 --> 00:41:00,416 So, we kept it private. 692 00:41:00,916 --> 00:41:04,086 As soon as that was on the table, it changed everything. 693 00:41:04,170 --> 00:41:07,047 So we just had it not be, "It is not on the table." 694 00:41:07,131 --> 00:41:10,217 "It is not on the table that there is a male stroking practice." 695 00:41:10,301 --> 00:41:14,346 Someone joked around, "Oh, it's like a spiritual hand job." 696 00:41:14,972 --> 00:41:16,891 And right, so that's the problem, is, 697 00:41:16,974 --> 00:41:19,310 it can devolve into a hand job, 698 00:41:19,393 --> 00:41:22,146 and we wanted it to be something very different than that. 699 00:41:22,229 --> 00:41:28,736 Like, a woman stroking a man's penis brings up a whole bunch of cultural things 700 00:41:28,819 --> 00:41:31,405 that the reverse simply does not. 701 00:41:31,489 --> 00:41:34,366 What it means for a woman to be a sexual service provider 702 00:41:34,450 --> 00:41:36,952 and for a man to be in the position of being 703 00:41:37,036 --> 00:41:39,246 on the receiving end of sexual service providing. 704 00:41:39,330 --> 00:41:43,334 So, like, you couldn't just have them reverse and say, "Now this is OM." 705 00:41:43,417 --> 00:41:45,503 It ends up not being an OM. 706 00:41:46,629 --> 00:41:49,173 We have a female identity in our culture, right? 707 00:41:49,673 --> 00:41:51,509 The female is the victim. 708 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,639 And if I, in any way, don't buy into that, 709 00:41:56,722 --> 00:41:59,391 then there's only two options with victim. 710 00:41:59,475 --> 00:42:00,476 There's villain. 711 00:42:00,559 --> 00:42:04,146 Your practice session where women are being OMed, 712 00:42:04,230 --> 00:42:07,107 orgasmic meditation, by men who are not present, 713 00:42:07,191 --> 00:42:10,361 don't know who they are, aren't clear in their sense of purpose. 714 00:42:10,444 --> 00:42:13,572 A woman cannot open her legs to a man at that level, 715 00:42:13,656 --> 00:42:17,576 and I think it's really important for you or someone who's highly trained 716 00:42:17,660 --> 00:42:19,578 to be here in these practice sessions. 717 00:42:19,662 --> 00:42:24,375 When the man impresses his shape into her, her whole body feels that, 718 00:42:24,458 --> 00:42:26,835 her whole consciousness is ignited, 719 00:42:26,919 --> 00:42:30,256 but I think that you need to tighten up the practice sessions. 720 00:42:30,339 --> 00:42:32,132 What you say, for me, 721 00:42:32,216 --> 00:42:37,263 feels like, uh, protection of women 722 00:42:37,346 --> 00:42:42,893 in such a way that it continues an idea that we need to be protected. 723 00:42:42,977 --> 00:42:47,439 And that idea keeps me not taking responsibility for my sex. 724 00:42:48,941 --> 00:42:51,944 So, I have a story, and I am no victim. 725 00:42:52,027 --> 00:42:54,321 The problem with the victim story, 726 00:42:54,405 --> 00:42:56,991 it takes away your power. 727 00:42:57,074 --> 00:43:01,203 If you wanna know the real way to deflect rape, 728 00:43:01,287 --> 00:43:04,039 it's to turn on 100%. 729 00:43:04,873 --> 00:43:07,084 Because then there's nothing to rape. 730 00:43:12,172 --> 00:43:15,217 Nicole had some very barbaric messages 731 00:43:15,301 --> 00:43:17,636 when she talks about the darkness that she has 732 00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:19,888 or the darkness that she came from. 733 00:43:21,015 --> 00:43:25,477 Trauma is just stuff that's stuck in the body that needs discharge. 734 00:43:26,103 --> 00:43:27,438 I think what you do... 735 00:43:27,521 --> 00:43:32,026 I mean, this is gonna be my suggestion every time, is you OM a lot. 736 00:43:32,109 --> 00:43:37,239 As you OM, whatever is in there begins to come out. 737 00:43:37,323 --> 00:43:40,326 It just progressively and gently opens you and releases, 738 00:43:40,409 --> 00:43:43,537 and then you can just face and be rid of, face and be rid of. 739 00:43:43,621 --> 00:43:48,500 And then pretty soon what you just notice is your capacity to sit in pain decreases, 740 00:43:48,584 --> 00:43:51,795 and you just gotta get that shit out fast, and then you're clear again. 741 00:43:52,671 --> 00:43:55,257 You know, my dad was a child molester, 742 00:43:55,341 --> 00:44:00,804 and he had experiences with young girls and used me as bait. 743 00:44:01,305 --> 00:44:04,391 And so that exact behavior... 744 00:44:04,475 --> 00:44:08,145 Whoa, of me colluding with somebody who would cause harm. 745 00:44:08,228 --> 00:44:10,397 And I got that seed out. 746 00:44:10,481 --> 00:44:11,649 I got free. 747 00:44:11,732 --> 00:44:14,693 I could forgive everybody in the whole experience 748 00:44:14,777 --> 00:44:16,612 'cause I got free of that. 749 00:44:20,991 --> 00:44:23,619 I think I told the story in here when I was a stripper 750 00:44:23,702 --> 00:44:25,704 and they put a knife up to my throat. 751 00:44:25,788 --> 00:44:29,458 Nicole's biography is kind of a matter of mystery. 752 00:44:30,167 --> 00:44:32,294 You're never really sure what's actually true. 753 00:44:32,378 --> 00:44:34,880 I think her biography went through a lot of revisions 754 00:44:34,963 --> 00:44:37,091 as the company became more and more prominent. 755 00:44:37,883 --> 00:44:41,220 But she did talk about having worked as a stripper. 756 00:44:41,303 --> 00:44:44,098 Well, I have great cred. I come from darkness. 757 00:44:44,682 --> 00:44:47,851 She was a very highly paid call girl. 758 00:44:47,935 --> 00:44:49,978 She would tell stories about, you know, 759 00:44:50,062 --> 00:44:53,524 getting $700 for a trick, I think is the term. 760 00:44:53,607 --> 00:44:56,860 Then she had a thing where she would play around socially with people, 761 00:44:56,944 --> 00:44:58,779 like, mess with their heads. 762 00:44:58,862 --> 00:45:00,614 Guys, especially. 763 00:45:01,115 --> 00:45:03,909 Friend of mine was like, "Oh, she's a monster." 764 00:45:03,992 --> 00:45:06,745 "She's a monster." Like, "Stay away from her," and stuff. 765 00:45:06,829 --> 00:45:09,123 And that was very intriguing. 766 00:45:10,207 --> 00:45:16,547 We had done some LSD earlier one day, and she proposed to me. 767 00:45:16,630 --> 00:45:19,466 Having your wife be a sex cult leader was like... 768 00:45:19,550 --> 00:45:21,969 It was pretty interesting for me. 769 00:45:22,594 --> 00:45:27,391 It's like, I was totally ready to go buy a Harley and ride up the coast 770 00:45:27,474 --> 00:45:29,393 and be in a sex cult, are you kidding? 771 00:45:29,476 --> 00:45:33,188 And take LSD. I totally wanted to do all that stuff. 772 00:45:33,272 --> 00:45:36,191 Our mission plan, our business plan was this: 773 00:45:36,275 --> 00:45:39,653 800,000 people trying to practice orgasmic meditation, 774 00:45:39,737 --> 00:45:43,615 10,000 people at the level of mastery, or teachers, 775 00:45:43,699 --> 00:45:48,620 and a center in the major cities, all the major cities of the world. 776 00:45:48,704 --> 00:45:51,749 Rob Kandell was Nicole's first business partner. 777 00:45:51,832 --> 00:45:55,461 He was a guy who used to work kind of in a tech-finance job, 778 00:45:55,544 --> 00:45:59,339 and met Nicole, and they decided to start OneTaste together. 779 00:45:59,965 --> 00:46:03,302 When I first met Rob, he was married to Carol. 780 00:46:03,385 --> 00:46:06,805 They were part of Nicole's little cadre of followers. 781 00:46:06,889 --> 00:46:10,642 Nicole wanted Rob for his unending devotion, 782 00:46:10,726 --> 00:46:12,269 and also his bank account. 783 00:46:13,312 --> 00:46:17,649 You know, he was kind of like a nebbish-y guy, looking for approval, 784 00:46:18,609 --> 00:46:21,528 and Nicole had a really good sense of style, 785 00:46:21,612 --> 00:46:24,490 and so she would groom him, so he became hot. 786 00:46:24,990 --> 00:46:30,204 I was stroking a hot young thing on a warm Tuesday morning. 787 00:46:34,166 --> 00:46:37,461 She would borrow things from Scientology 788 00:46:37,544 --> 00:46:39,755 or, like, these different cults, 789 00:46:39,838 --> 00:46:43,342 even going back to stuff like Lifespring and est. 790 00:46:43,425 --> 00:46:48,263 The shamans say that a medicine man begins by falling into the power of demons. 791 00:46:48,347 --> 00:46:51,016 Now, in Kabbalah, it's called chesed and gevurah. 792 00:46:51,099 --> 00:46:51,975 In the darshan... 793 00:46:52,059 --> 00:46:53,602 There's a thing called Satguru... 794 00:46:53,685 --> 00:46:55,020 The desire sutras... 795 00:46:55,103 --> 00:46:56,021 It's sacred... 796 00:46:56,104 --> 00:46:58,065 In the more esoteric practices. 797 00:46:58,148 --> 00:46:59,316 I want to go see Amma. 798 00:46:59,399 --> 00:47:00,859 Zalman Schachter-Shalomi. 799 00:47:00,943 --> 00:47:02,444 Kalimah said... Wilke said... 800 00:47:02,528 --> 00:47:03,612 Think about the Buddha. 801 00:47:03,695 --> 00:47:04,695 Malcolm Gladwell. 802 00:47:04,738 --> 00:47:06,949 Rumi. BKS Iyengar. Krishnamurthy. 803 00:47:07,032 --> 00:47:08,033 The Tibetan Buddhist... 804 00:47:08,116 --> 00:47:09,493 Sort of like Mother Teresa. 805 00:47:09,576 --> 00:47:11,912 A universal sanctuary light-bearer. 806 00:47:11,995 --> 00:47:13,914 Shabbat. The love of Jesus. 807 00:47:13,997 --> 00:47:16,208 That is religion, and the dukh has it. 808 00:47:16,291 --> 00:47:20,420 All of this fucking crazy shit about sacred and spiritual and woman. 809 00:47:20,504 --> 00:47:24,007 Usually, if you touch the absolute, you have this realization. 810 00:47:24,091 --> 00:47:26,343 The realization is, "I am God." 811 00:47:27,052 --> 00:47:29,429 One taste, which is a Buddhist concept. 812 00:47:29,513 --> 00:47:35,310 The Buddha said, "Just as the ocean has one taste, the taste of salt, 813 00:47:35,394 --> 00:47:40,899 so also this teaching and discipline has one taste, the taste of liberation." 814 00:47:44,528 --> 00:47:46,780 My religion really is orgasm. 815 00:47:46,864 --> 00:47:48,574 By "orgasm," what I mean is, like, 816 00:47:48,657 --> 00:47:52,327 this underlying something that seems to move through the world. 817 00:47:52,828 --> 00:47:54,246 When you walked into OneTaste, 818 00:47:54,329 --> 00:47:57,249 most people have one definition of orgasm, the common definition, 819 00:47:57,332 --> 00:48:00,627 a sexual climactic experience, right? That's orgasm. 820 00:48:00,711 --> 00:48:04,882 And then you go into an OM class, and orgasm kind of changes a little bit. 821 00:48:04,965 --> 00:48:07,551 Like, it's not just the event of climax. 822 00:48:07,634 --> 00:48:10,721 It's like climax is one of the eight stages of orgasm. 823 00:48:10,804 --> 00:48:13,599 And then orgasm starts to mean something more like qi, 824 00:48:13,682 --> 00:48:16,143 energy that flows through the universe and flows through you. 825 00:48:16,226 --> 00:48:20,439 If you follow it, you'll be more in tune with nature, and that was also orgasm. 826 00:48:20,522 --> 00:48:22,858 Most people don't realize their definition of orgasm 827 00:48:22,941 --> 00:48:25,110 is changing week to week or month to month. 828 00:48:25,193 --> 00:48:27,905 And at a certain point, by the time I was leaving, 829 00:48:27,988 --> 00:48:30,073 God became synonymous with orgasm, 830 00:48:30,157 --> 00:48:31,325 and orgasm was Nicole. 831 00:48:33,410 --> 00:48:36,747 I looked at her and I said, "You're starting a religion, aren't you?" 832 00:48:36,830 --> 00:48:41,209 And she goes, "Yeah, I want to start a religion, but the thing is, 833 00:48:41,835 --> 00:48:46,089 you can't sell God because you can get God on Amazon." 834 00:48:46,173 --> 00:48:49,676 "What I'm selling is sex, because you still can't get that." 835 00:49:00,562 --> 00:49:05,233 So, it wasn't a long leap from there that the priest ceremonies began. 836 00:49:07,736 --> 00:49:09,821 I get a call from Nicole saying, 837 00:49:09,905 --> 00:49:13,033 "Mike, OneTaste is going to be doing something 838 00:49:13,116 --> 00:49:15,994 we call the Magic School, and I would like your help with it." 839 00:49:16,578 --> 00:49:20,499 "We'd like you to help out with some rituals we wanna do." 840 00:49:20,582 --> 00:49:23,335 "Help design them, help stage them, 841 00:49:23,418 --> 00:49:26,713 and we want to initiate 842 00:49:26,797 --> 00:49:28,882 some Priests of OM." 843 00:49:29,591 --> 00:49:31,385 The cynical part of me says, 844 00:49:31,468 --> 00:49:35,222 "Okay, well, if she got it successfully incorporated as a religious body, 845 00:49:35,305 --> 00:49:37,557 well, you know, no taxes." 846 00:49:39,267 --> 00:49:41,895 She said, "We want to have myself 847 00:49:41,979 --> 00:49:44,314 and the other main women who were involved with this 848 00:49:44,398 --> 00:49:47,275 sort of being the initiators, being the Goddess figures, 849 00:49:47,359 --> 00:49:52,072 taking the men into the whole thing and saying, 'You are now a priest.'" 850 00:49:52,656 --> 00:49:54,449 When someone becomes a priest, 851 00:49:54,533 --> 00:49:58,662 they're agreeing they're stepping into kind of a different level of life, 852 00:49:58,745 --> 00:50:03,250 and really it was a way for us to just feel super bonded and connected 853 00:50:03,333 --> 00:50:06,795 and, like, part of something that we were super committed to. 854 00:50:06,878 --> 00:50:12,300 I volunteered so I could get into the room and see what it was like. 855 00:50:12,384 --> 00:50:16,388 Otherwise, it would have cost, I think, at least 15 grand, 856 00:50:16,471 --> 00:50:18,140 maybe 30 grand. 857 00:50:19,641 --> 00:50:22,978 I said, "What you guys should be wearing is 858 00:50:23,061 --> 00:50:25,689 black face coverings, wraparound." 859 00:50:25,772 --> 00:50:28,525 "But below that, nothing." 860 00:50:29,026 --> 00:50:33,739 What this is communicating is you are the Goddess, this female force 861 00:50:33,822 --> 00:50:38,076 that's faceless, that's egoless, that's now saying to these guys, 862 00:50:38,910 --> 00:50:42,205 "I welcome you to be my servants." 863 00:50:43,331 --> 00:50:46,376 And I remember watching and just feeling this power. 864 00:50:46,460 --> 00:50:49,546 I said, "I hope this is working on other people, 'cause it's working on me." 865 00:50:49,629 --> 00:50:53,050 "I'm feeling this Goddess energy, I'm feeling this, you know, 866 00:50:53,133 --> 00:50:54,843 that sacred female sexuality." 867 00:50:57,429 --> 00:50:58,805 These Priests of Orgasm 868 00:50:58,889 --> 00:51:01,975 would do the OM practice in this ritualistic fashion, 869 00:51:02,059 --> 00:51:04,603 where they kept, like, moving from woman to woman. 870 00:51:05,604 --> 00:51:07,898 Nicole was a showman, you know? 871 00:51:07,981 --> 00:51:10,275 She's got a little bit of P.T. Barnum in her. 872 00:51:10,358 --> 00:51:12,278 I sort of joked to myself and I said, 873 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:16,073 "Well, she's trying to put together the sexy Illuminati here." 874 00:51:16,156 --> 00:51:21,995 And it was interesting being around 200 young, beautiful, very turned-on folks 875 00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:23,288 that were attending it. 876 00:51:23,371 --> 00:51:25,373 They were paying a pretty penny for it. 877 00:51:25,457 --> 00:51:29,503 I could easily imagine the gross take for the five days 878 00:51:29,586 --> 00:51:31,088 being about a million dollars. 879 00:51:32,631 --> 00:51:35,592 But they were getting their money's worth, I think. 880 00:51:53,026 --> 00:51:55,987 "God, in His wisdom, selected this group of men and women 881 00:51:56,071 --> 00:51:58,323 to be purveyors of His goodness." 882 00:51:59,616 --> 00:52:02,911 "He went not to the proud, the mighty, the famous, or the brilliant." 883 00:52:02,994 --> 00:52:06,873 "He went instead to the humble, to the sick, to the unfortunate..." 884 00:52:06,957 --> 00:52:09,292 Rachel was head of sales 885 00:52:09,376 --> 00:52:13,380 and she was this powerful figure within the company. 886 00:52:13,463 --> 00:52:17,384 I'm Rachel and I teach Dark Arts. 887 00:52:17,467 --> 00:52:18,969 Yeah! 888 00:52:20,554 --> 00:52:26,268 I would say... I would say that is the fourth-dimensional class that I teach. 889 00:52:26,351 --> 00:52:29,604 The third-dimensional class that I teach is sales. 890 00:52:29,688 --> 00:52:33,233 Very close to Nicole. She was like Nicole's right-hand woman. 891 00:52:33,316 --> 00:52:34,651 Watch this. Come on. 892 00:52:36,695 --> 00:52:39,239 See, you do that and she comes closer. 893 00:52:39,948 --> 00:52:43,451 And she inspired a lot of admiration because 894 00:52:43,535 --> 00:52:46,329 she really projected this sense of being a woman who was really, 895 00:52:46,413 --> 00:52:49,166 like, in charge of her sexuality. 896 00:52:49,249 --> 00:52:55,922 - All right, so, Rachele... - Your time has come, my dear. 897 00:52:56,006 --> 00:52:57,716 I didn't write anything. 898 00:52:57,799 --> 00:52:59,718 Oh, see what I mean? 899 00:52:59,801 --> 00:53:02,888 She didn't write anything either. We have another pussy channeler. 900 00:53:04,139 --> 00:53:04,973 Yeah! 901 00:53:05,056 --> 00:53:07,392 Oh, pussy. 902 00:53:07,475 --> 00:53:08,977 Pussy! 903 00:53:09,060 --> 00:53:10,187 She's so... 904 00:53:15,192 --> 00:53:16,693 I can touch her, right? 905 00:53:19,154 --> 00:53:22,240 You guys really are my family. 906 00:53:22,324 --> 00:53:25,827 And I've been thinking all week how to say it, 907 00:53:25,911 --> 00:53:30,999 like, how to just say how good it feels to be here. 908 00:53:32,751 --> 00:53:35,003 And to be ignited... 909 00:53:36,213 --> 00:53:40,300 ...and turned on, and have that be from a very authentic place. 910 00:53:41,635 --> 00:53:44,512 So, I think that's just what I wanted to say. 911 00:53:45,639 --> 00:53:51,561 Rachel was willing to do anything Nicole wanted her to do in terms of, um, 912 00:53:52,812 --> 00:53:56,358 advancing OneTaste and protecting OneTaste. 913 00:53:56,858 --> 00:54:00,862 When I was 25, I was told by a therapist that I was anorgasmic, 914 00:54:00,946 --> 00:54:03,114 meaning, like, I couldn't climax. 915 00:54:03,198 --> 00:54:07,035 As a woman, if I have to go through life not enjoying sex, what's the point? 916 00:54:07,535 --> 00:54:13,375 So, in my first OM, I felt this one moment of electricity, 917 00:54:13,458 --> 00:54:16,211 and I thought, "Oh, that's what it means to be a woman." 918 00:54:17,587 --> 00:54:20,173 She was also kind of Nicole's enforcer. 919 00:54:21,132 --> 00:54:25,512 That was important because as Nicole rose and rose in stature, 920 00:54:25,595 --> 00:54:27,973 a guru has to kind of stay above the fray. 921 00:54:28,056 --> 00:54:31,226 You're gonna do it quick, like... Where's Raphael? 922 00:54:31,309 --> 00:54:34,271 - Quick like a bunny. - Quick like a bunny. 923 00:54:34,354 --> 00:54:35,354 Good? 924 00:54:35,397 --> 00:54:36,481 Good! 925 00:54:36,564 --> 00:54:37,857 We're excited? 926 00:54:37,941 --> 00:54:39,484 Yeah! 927 00:54:39,567 --> 00:54:40,777 We're gonna stay... 928 00:54:40,860 --> 00:54:43,405 Sane! 929 00:54:43,488 --> 00:54:46,366 OneTaste employed a lot of people who 930 00:54:46,449 --> 00:54:49,160 hadn't really gone into their careers yet. 931 00:54:49,244 --> 00:54:54,833 People were jumping at the chance to be working at a startup about sex. 932 00:54:54,916 --> 00:54:58,044 People were waking up at 7:30, going to OMs, 933 00:54:58,128 --> 00:55:00,839 going to a staff meeting right after that. 934 00:55:00,922 --> 00:55:05,760 There was no boundary between work and the other things we did. 935 00:55:06,803 --> 00:55:09,180 When I was hired, I was told I would get 936 00:55:09,264 --> 00:55:11,808 20% of the revenue that the New York branch made, 937 00:55:11,891 --> 00:55:14,019 which was a lot of money at the time. 938 00:55:14,102 --> 00:55:16,271 It seemed like an obscene amount to be getting paid. 939 00:55:17,188 --> 00:55:21,568 OneTaste New York was bringing in ten to $20,000 a day sometimes. 940 00:55:21,651 --> 00:55:23,486 So yeah, that was a huge amount of money. 941 00:55:23,570 --> 00:55:27,574 Later I found out, "No, it's actually 20% split up amongst five people." 942 00:55:27,657 --> 00:55:31,119 Later it was, "Oh, 20%, but only if you help with a certain sale." 943 00:55:31,202 --> 00:55:34,956 Like, it kept changing, and every time I asked what our compensation was, 944 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,917 I got a different answer, and sometimes it'd flip back on me, 945 00:55:38,001 --> 00:55:41,421 like I was being a jerk for asking about money or being money-focused. 946 00:55:44,591 --> 00:55:48,428 I was told to OM with people when we would have arguments. 947 00:55:48,511 --> 00:55:52,640 It was this very, like, deep part of the philosophy that 948 00:55:52,724 --> 00:55:54,559 if you're not getting along with someone 949 00:55:54,642 --> 00:55:56,895 or if someone constantly rubs you the wrong way, 950 00:55:56,978 --> 00:55:58,855 then you're supposed to fuck them. 951 00:56:02,067 --> 00:56:04,569 Did you have to do that? 952 00:56:08,073 --> 00:56:09,741 I felt like if I didn't, 953 00:56:09,824 --> 00:56:13,995 I wouldn't be important, and I wouldn't get attention. 954 00:56:14,079 --> 00:56:16,539 And I was very much wanting to be 955 00:56:17,374 --> 00:56:22,045 higher, like, management level at OneTaste. 956 00:56:23,755 --> 00:56:28,968 So, there was that period of time where I did things that were suggested. 957 00:56:30,553 --> 00:56:33,473 It was operating in a sphere of such unusual 958 00:56:33,556 --> 00:56:34,849 interpersonal dynamics, right? 959 00:56:34,933 --> 00:56:37,727 So, usually the relationship between you and your manager 960 00:56:37,811 --> 00:56:41,898 is not one where your manager is going to tell you who to have sex with. 961 00:56:42,399 --> 00:56:44,651 Yeah, there's an adage at OneTaste. 962 00:56:44,734 --> 00:56:47,320 "When the sensation is high, you can either fuck or fight." 963 00:56:47,404 --> 00:56:51,366 And one time I had this tension with one of my co-workers, 964 00:56:51,449 --> 00:56:55,620 and Rachel said something like, "Right, this, no, we're not doing this." 965 00:56:55,703 --> 00:56:58,873 "You guys go have sex, don't come back to work till you've done it." 966 00:56:58,957 --> 00:57:00,834 She and I, like, walked out. 967 00:57:00,917 --> 00:57:04,337 We were both looking at each other like, "Is this... Like, this is really strange." 968 00:57:04,421 --> 00:57:05,255 "Is this okay?" 969 00:57:05,338 --> 00:57:07,924 "Like, our employer who is telling us to have sex." 970 00:57:08,007 --> 00:57:12,387 It was also part of OneTaste culture that you were encouraged to do 971 00:57:12,470 --> 00:57:15,473 emotionally challenging things or uncomfortable things for your growth. 972 00:57:15,557 --> 00:57:16,641 So, this was like... 973 00:57:16,724 --> 00:57:20,353 Yeah, we had this very awkward sexual experience 974 00:57:20,437 --> 00:57:23,148 and then went back to work, and that was that. 975 00:57:24,691 --> 00:57:28,570 Whenever there was a course, there were always women from OneTaste, 976 00:57:28,653 --> 00:57:30,822 because the courses were always male-heavy. 977 00:57:30,905 --> 00:57:34,784 So, you had to get the women, you know, to partner with the men 978 00:57:34,868 --> 00:57:38,246 and have their pussy stroked so that all the men could have partners. 979 00:57:38,955 --> 00:57:42,375 There were, you know, ten men and two other women who had signed up. 980 00:57:42,459 --> 00:57:45,170 By the way, often the women didn't have to pay, 981 00:57:45,253 --> 00:57:47,422 or had to pay very little to be in courses, 982 00:57:47,505 --> 00:57:49,466 but we had the guys pay full amount. 983 00:57:50,091 --> 00:57:52,552 They were paying for it, so if there's only two women, 984 00:57:52,635 --> 00:57:55,763 we need eight more women to pair up with these other guys. 985 00:57:55,847 --> 00:57:57,515 Where are they gonna come from? 986 00:57:58,224 --> 00:58:00,518 So, that'd be us. 987 00:58:01,811 --> 00:58:03,688 For the women in the community, 988 00:58:03,771 --> 00:58:05,857 they were willing, and yet, 989 00:58:05,940 --> 00:58:08,485 it's not like we had a choice. 990 00:58:09,903 --> 00:58:12,155 When I talked to many ex-members, 991 00:58:12,238 --> 00:58:15,241 they would describe something that an outsider might look at and think, 992 00:58:15,325 --> 00:58:18,745 "Oh, you were being told to have sex with a customer 993 00:58:18,828 --> 00:58:22,540 in the hopes that that customer would pay money to the company." 994 00:58:22,624 --> 00:58:24,876 And I get the impression that within OneTaste, 995 00:58:24,959 --> 00:58:28,254 it didn't seem so obviously bad. 996 00:58:28,338 --> 00:58:30,840 There were other explanations. It was like, 997 00:58:30,924 --> 00:58:33,551 "You should have sex with this person because 998 00:58:33,635 --> 00:58:37,138 your orgasm is kind of blocked up these days 999 00:58:37,222 --> 00:58:41,643 and you need to blow your lines clean by having sex with a lot of people." 1000 00:58:41,726 --> 00:58:47,774 And this is advice coming from someone above you in the group 1001 00:58:47,857 --> 00:58:50,360 who seems like they really have their sexuality figured out. 1002 00:58:50,443 --> 00:58:53,363 So, maybe you wanna take this advice, maybe you want to do it 1003 00:58:53,446 --> 00:58:55,657 because you're like, "Well, maybe it'll help." 1004 00:58:56,157 --> 00:58:58,535 We would get shamed for being a victim. 1005 00:58:58,618 --> 00:59:03,373 She used this semantic trick of reframing 1006 00:59:03,456 --> 00:59:06,793 to make really scary reframes. 1007 00:59:06,876 --> 00:59:10,129 For instance, no value judgment to rape, 1008 00:59:11,172 --> 00:59:14,759 no value judgment towards predatorial men. 1009 00:59:15,385 --> 00:59:19,931 So, you know how we have the t-shirts, like, "Powered by Orgasm"? 1010 00:59:20,014 --> 00:59:22,392 This could be our new shirt: 1011 00:59:22,475 --> 00:59:26,688 "I got raped and all I got was a victim story." 1012 00:59:30,275 --> 00:59:34,237 Or it could be like, "I raped someone and all I got was a perpetrator story." 1013 00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,699 When people later try to make sense of what happened to them in this group, 1014 00:59:37,782 --> 00:59:42,036 they think, "Well, it was all my fault, because I could never be a victim." 1015 00:59:43,246 --> 00:59:45,957 I question my experience there all the time, 1016 00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,710 trying to figure out what actually happened. 1017 00:59:49,335 --> 00:59:51,087 Describe your sex. 1018 00:59:51,671 --> 00:59:57,051 Sort of craving more and, um, reluctantly coming out. 1019 00:59:58,511 --> 01:00:00,680 So, it felt like, for me as a queer woman, 1020 01:00:00,763 --> 01:00:05,810 that there was all of this pressure to be either feminine or masculine. 1021 01:00:06,519 --> 01:00:10,815 So a lot of the things that I thought were wrong with me and I needed to fix 1022 01:00:10,898 --> 01:00:14,986 had to do with not being feminine enough for OneTaste, 1023 01:00:15,069 --> 01:00:16,988 not behaving like the other women. 1024 01:00:17,071 --> 01:00:21,743 You know, I'm a woman who works backstage. Like, I wear a tool belt. 1025 01:00:21,826 --> 01:00:25,496 I do things that are considered pretty masculine. 1026 01:00:25,580 --> 01:00:28,750 So, I was sort of teased a lot. 1027 01:00:34,922 --> 01:00:39,802 Preference is an unconscious, habituated response. 1028 01:00:40,887 --> 01:00:45,808 So the only thing that you're ever held bondage by is your own set of beliefs. 1029 01:00:45,892 --> 01:00:49,771 On the other side of every single one is freedom. 1030 01:00:51,022 --> 01:00:52,982 That's what we're looking for. 1031 01:00:53,066 --> 01:00:55,860 And we're not looking for it by only going to places we like. 1032 01:00:56,611 --> 01:00:59,364 The places you hate are your practice. 1033 01:00:59,864 --> 01:01:02,867 They're the places where you... They're actually your biggest gift. 1034 01:01:02,950 --> 01:01:04,661 They're the places you get free. 1035 01:01:07,914 --> 01:01:11,167 This was me teaching a class of BDSM. 1036 01:01:11,250 --> 01:01:13,378 I loved teaching it. It was really fun. 1037 01:01:17,006 --> 01:01:20,343 So these are kind of two of my passions, 1038 01:01:20,426 --> 01:01:23,096 Disneyland and BDSM. 1039 01:01:23,179 --> 01:01:25,223 You look at these things and you think, 1040 01:01:25,306 --> 01:01:30,103 "How could anybody possibly enjoy being beaten with a flogger?" 1041 01:01:30,186 --> 01:01:35,316 But if you can separate from the judgment of good, bad, right, wrong, 1042 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,610 and just feel the sensation of it, 1043 01:01:37,694 --> 01:01:40,988 then you can actually just enjoy it. 1044 01:01:41,698 --> 01:01:44,117 Like, we all have primal urges, you know? 1045 01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,412 We all have the desire to just ravage someone 1046 01:01:47,495 --> 01:01:50,081 or to be ravaged by someone. 1047 01:01:50,164 --> 01:01:52,291 I felt that pull, I felt that desire. 1048 01:01:52,375 --> 01:01:56,087 I had a lot of conditioning and coding telling me that that desire was wrong, 1049 01:01:56,170 --> 01:02:00,216 and OneTaste allowed me to overcome that, in a way. 1050 01:02:01,134 --> 01:02:04,846 Uh, that's after a scene with Nicole, I think. 1051 01:02:04,929 --> 01:02:07,598 And that's where the initials came from. 1052 01:02:10,268 --> 01:02:14,230 These two floggers and the single-tail were Nicole's. 1053 01:02:17,442 --> 01:02:20,737 You are always going to be a desperate slave to women. 1054 01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:22,321 Thank you. 1055 01:02:23,614 --> 01:02:25,116 You blink your eyes a lot because 1056 01:02:25,199 --> 01:02:28,661 you're unwilling to put your attention on anybody but yourself. 1057 01:02:29,162 --> 01:02:30,079 Thank you. 1058 01:02:30,163 --> 01:02:31,622 You're inept in the cafe. 1059 01:02:32,248 --> 01:02:33,249 Thank you. 1060 01:02:34,041 --> 01:02:39,297 You'll never make it out of the bounds of your tight personality. 1061 01:02:39,881 --> 01:02:41,758 - Thank you. - You're fat. 1062 01:02:41,841 --> 01:02:42,841 Thank you. 1063 01:02:47,180 --> 01:02:49,056 They did a thing called "killing," 1064 01:02:49,140 --> 01:02:50,933 getting under people's skin 1065 01:02:51,017 --> 01:02:55,146 and saying the things that are gonna dismantle them emotionally. 1066 01:02:55,229 --> 01:02:57,732 And I remember we had a team meeting where 1067 01:02:57,815 --> 01:03:00,902 this particular woman was being groomed to be, like, the next Rachel. 1068 01:03:00,985 --> 01:03:04,238 Like, she was very articulate, very attractive. 1069 01:03:04,322 --> 01:03:08,034 And because she was struggling with really surrendering to OneTaste, 1070 01:03:08,117 --> 01:03:11,537 she was getting hammered by Rachel and the other staff members. 1071 01:03:11,621 --> 01:03:13,664 'Cause we knew each other's secrets, like, 1072 01:03:13,748 --> 01:03:16,793 we knew our vulnerable parts, we knew where people were insecure. 1073 01:03:16,876 --> 01:03:20,338 They were just saying all these things to her that were so biting 1074 01:03:20,421 --> 01:03:23,174 that it was beyond the point of tears for her. 1075 01:03:23,257 --> 01:03:26,093 When she finally looked up from crying, she was, like, dead. 1076 01:03:26,177 --> 01:03:28,304 That's why it was called killing. She was blank. 1077 01:03:28,387 --> 01:03:31,390 Like, 'cause her ego was gone. And that was abusive. 1078 01:03:31,474 --> 01:03:35,394 And one of the things I really regret was not backing her up in that moment, 1079 01:03:35,478 --> 01:03:37,897 because I actually felt shitty in that moment. 1080 01:03:37,980 --> 01:03:40,024 It wasn't like I look back on it and felt bad. 1081 01:03:40,107 --> 01:03:42,193 Like, I felt bad in that moment, 1082 01:03:42,276 --> 01:03:44,362 but I convinced myself it was for her own good, 1083 01:03:44,445 --> 01:03:46,030 so I didn't say anything. 1084 01:03:47,532 --> 01:03:48,950 Somebody was saying to me 1085 01:03:49,033 --> 01:03:53,579 that the people here don't have very skillful scalpels, you know? 1086 01:03:53,663 --> 01:03:57,291 And we don't, but we all agree to slash each other... 1087 01:04:00,461 --> 01:04:01,754 ...for a higher purpose. 1088 01:04:04,549 --> 01:04:07,426 There was a woman who was wanting to leave. 1089 01:04:07,510 --> 01:04:10,680 So Nicole sent Bill and I down to go and kind of work her over 1090 01:04:10,763 --> 01:04:12,056 and get her to stay. 1091 01:04:12,139 --> 01:04:13,933 And she was really upset, 1092 01:04:14,016 --> 01:04:17,436 and she was just telling us that she didn't trust Nicole, 1093 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:21,148 and that she felt like this was not the right place for her. 1094 01:04:21,232 --> 01:04:23,985 Bill told her that he thought... 1095 01:04:24,068 --> 01:04:26,279 "You know, Nicole's all about honesty, 1096 01:04:26,362 --> 01:04:29,532 and so you should go and tell Nicole that you don't trust her." 1097 01:04:29,615 --> 01:04:31,993 She starts telling Nicole she doesn't trust her. 1098 01:04:32,076 --> 01:04:34,203 Nicole starts breaking down crying. 1099 01:04:35,037 --> 01:04:36,873 "I can't believe you're gonna leave me." 1100 01:04:36,956 --> 01:04:40,042 "I can't believe you're just gonna abandon me like that. I can't believe it." 1101 01:04:40,126 --> 01:04:42,336 Nicole's, like, sobbing. 1102 01:04:42,420 --> 01:04:46,007 This woman's like, "No, no, no. No. Nicole, I would never leave you." 1103 01:04:46,090 --> 01:04:48,384 "Okay, I'm gonna stay." 1104 01:04:48,968 --> 01:04:50,553 She leaves the room. 1105 01:04:52,054 --> 01:04:54,390 Instantaneously, the tears dry. 1106 01:04:54,473 --> 01:04:56,225 Nicole looks at us and goes, 1107 01:04:56,309 --> 01:04:59,478 "That didn't go the way you thought it was gonna go, did it?" 1108 01:05:01,439 --> 01:05:05,568 Love and affection and energy are given and withdrawn strategically 1109 01:05:05,651 --> 01:05:07,111 in order to create dependence. 1110 01:05:07,695 --> 01:05:09,447 And, you know, it's like if you leave, 1111 01:05:09,530 --> 01:05:11,782 you'll never have access to those things again. 1112 01:05:14,452 --> 01:05:17,872 I do know with one individual, basically, while he was tripping, 1113 01:05:17,955 --> 01:05:20,458 they had him have a personal experience 1114 01:05:20,541 --> 01:05:23,127 and then tried to get more money out of him, 1115 01:05:23,210 --> 01:05:26,213 convincing him to give them another quarter million or something. 1116 01:05:29,592 --> 01:05:31,344 People were getting hurt. 1117 01:05:31,427 --> 01:05:33,387 People were getting hurt badly. 1118 01:05:33,471 --> 01:05:36,891 I saw her starting to take more and more license. 1119 01:05:36,974 --> 01:05:40,186 And what it is is that she would just become fascinated 1120 01:05:40,269 --> 01:05:42,980 with what she could get people to do. 1121 01:05:43,064 --> 01:05:45,399 You know, that was her entertainment. 1122 01:05:45,483 --> 01:05:50,071 That was kind of, like, her secret thrill, is, like, having control over people. 1123 01:05:51,739 --> 01:05:55,034 She did some things with some of her staff people. 1124 01:05:55,117 --> 01:06:00,164 She would make them watch lions, like, hunting in a pride, ripping things apart, 1125 01:06:00,247 --> 01:06:02,041 and she'd go like, "We're like that." 1126 01:06:02,124 --> 01:06:04,460 "We're the lions, we aren't doing anything wrong." 1127 01:06:04,543 --> 01:06:05,711 "That's how we eat." 1128 01:06:06,754 --> 01:06:12,093 The "beast," this violence, this rage that gets normalized. 1129 01:06:12,176 --> 01:06:16,472 People were encouraged to be psychologically brutal with each other. 1130 01:06:17,473 --> 01:06:21,727 The first time that they do something vicious towards someone else, 1131 01:06:21,811 --> 01:06:24,063 people get encouraged. 1132 01:06:24,146 --> 01:06:26,399 "Yeah, you really showed your beast." 1133 01:06:26,482 --> 01:06:29,193 There's the knowledge that you've done something awful, 1134 01:06:29,276 --> 01:06:33,489 but now you've completely rewired what good means and what evil means. 1135 01:06:35,658 --> 01:06:38,869 I had a regular, and he had this thing where he wanted to strangle me. 1136 01:06:38,953 --> 01:06:44,166 His beast was locked in there and it hadn't had a place for expression, 1137 01:06:44,250 --> 01:06:46,043 and I just happen to love beasts. 1138 01:06:46,127 --> 01:06:49,380 I had to surrender so deep that I could absorb him all the way in. 1139 01:06:49,463 --> 01:06:54,760 And invariably, all of a sudden, it'd hit this point, and he'd just start bawling, 1140 01:06:54,844 --> 01:06:55,970 and that was all... 1141 01:06:56,053 --> 01:06:59,890 And he paid me a lot of money to just come strangle me and cry. That was it. 1142 01:06:59,974 --> 01:07:03,811 We think they're so tough, they're just little love bugs crying. 1143 01:07:03,894 --> 01:07:06,814 They're just our little companions that wanna love us. 1144 01:07:06,897 --> 01:07:10,151 They're just tough because they're met with fear. 1145 01:07:11,819 --> 01:07:15,698 You know, my dad died in prison for 52 counts of child molestation, 1146 01:07:15,781 --> 01:07:19,118 and I never took on the idea that he was a bad person. 1147 01:07:19,201 --> 01:07:24,957 I took on the idea that he was just so expansive and fourth-dimensional 1148 01:07:25,041 --> 01:07:30,171 that he couldn't confine himself into the arbitrary laws of the third dimension. 1149 01:07:30,254 --> 01:07:32,131 That was his only crime in my mind. 1150 01:07:32,214 --> 01:07:35,051 Now, other people may have different ideas. Uhhh... 1151 01:07:38,888 --> 01:07:40,598 Describe your sex. 1152 01:07:40,681 --> 01:07:42,808 There's a lot of anger in my sex. 1153 01:07:43,934 --> 01:07:46,896 Um... And there's also a lot of sweetness. 1154 01:07:47,813 --> 01:07:50,983 And I'm hoping to bring even more anger in. 1155 01:07:53,110 --> 01:07:56,197 OneTaste was encouraging women 1156 01:07:56,280 --> 01:08:01,410 to appreciate the predatorial nature of male sexuality. 1157 01:08:02,244 --> 01:08:07,750 And that's supposed to be some very evolved practice. 1158 01:08:08,584 --> 01:08:09,502 Help! 1159 01:08:09,585 --> 01:08:12,671 There was a term often used called "skillful violation." 1160 01:08:13,339 --> 01:08:16,092 You're not really violating what she wants, 1161 01:08:16,175 --> 01:08:18,928 you're violating what she says she wants. 1162 01:08:19,011 --> 01:08:20,011 Stop! 1163 01:08:20,429 --> 01:08:23,641 The idea of letting out your beast was basically 1164 01:08:23,724 --> 01:08:27,311 the equivalent of, like, being a savage or just, like, being totally expressed, 1165 01:08:27,394 --> 01:08:30,022 which is a pretty common idea in personal development. 1166 01:08:30,106 --> 01:08:31,899 I think it was healing for guys 1167 01:08:31,982 --> 01:08:35,402 who maybe, like, had so-called Nice Guy Syndrome. 1168 01:08:36,070 --> 01:08:37,530 In many ways it was healing. 1169 01:08:37,613 --> 01:08:43,077 Obviously, everything in OneTaste was taken a little too far at times. 1170 01:08:51,710 --> 01:08:54,672 My name is Autymn Blanck, 1171 01:08:55,548 --> 01:09:00,052 and I am here to tell the story of my sister, 1172 01:09:00,136 --> 01:09:02,763 that she was in a cult, 1173 01:09:02,847 --> 01:09:05,141 and her experience of going through that. 1174 01:09:23,742 --> 01:09:26,453 So, my sister and myself, 1175 01:09:27,329 --> 01:09:32,418 we were both raised in a very traumatic childhood. 1176 01:09:32,501 --> 01:09:35,713 Some things happened to us, sexually, 1177 01:09:35,796 --> 01:09:41,343 and I know my sister struggled with having sex, having connection, 1178 01:09:42,136 --> 01:09:44,972 and having just that community and love, 1179 01:09:45,055 --> 01:09:47,683 because we didn't really have that as children. 1180 01:09:47,766 --> 01:09:53,230 And so, when she talked to Rachel, someone older than her 1181 01:09:53,314 --> 01:09:55,733 who went through the same exact experience, 1182 01:09:55,816 --> 01:10:00,321 and she said, "OM has cured it all," 1183 01:10:00,404 --> 01:10:03,991 of course, that's the path that my sister went down. 1184 01:10:04,074 --> 01:10:06,660 "Why not try it?" I suppose. 1185 01:10:08,329 --> 01:10:13,209 This is my sister before all of it happened. 1186 01:10:15,169 --> 01:10:16,962 You can tell that she's very happy 1187 01:10:17,046 --> 01:10:19,882 and there's a lot of light in her eyes, still. 1188 01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,553 When I had gone to visit her, 1189 01:10:25,054 --> 01:10:29,099 like, the light had disappeared from her eyes. 1190 01:10:29,183 --> 01:10:33,270 And that's when I really knew something was wrong. 1191 01:10:35,064 --> 01:10:39,568 These people would tell her that she needed to go sleep with all these men, 1192 01:10:39,652 --> 01:10:43,239 or she needed to OM four to five times a day 1193 01:10:43,322 --> 01:10:48,369 to release herself from the trauma of her childhood. 1194 01:10:51,288 --> 01:10:55,042 My sister started sending me journals when she got out of OneTaste. 1195 01:10:55,125 --> 01:10:57,253 It was part of her therapy. 1196 01:10:59,588 --> 01:11:04,009 "I woke up today, filled with rage. Rage at my boyfriend." 1197 01:11:04,093 --> 01:11:06,553 "He punched me in the face and split my lip 1198 01:11:06,637 --> 01:11:07,638 and bruised my eye." 1199 01:11:07,721 --> 01:11:10,599 "At first, I was shocked. We had fought many times before, 1200 01:11:10,683 --> 01:11:13,394 but I had never thought he would go that far." 1201 01:11:15,062 --> 01:11:16,772 "I found little sympathy." 1202 01:11:16,855 --> 01:11:18,899 "This, I was told, was my fault." 1203 01:11:18,983 --> 01:11:20,651 "I had forced him to do it." 1204 01:11:20,734 --> 01:11:26,156 "His beast was only fulfilling what my body had asked him to do." 1205 01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:29,201 "Since I was a survivor of childhood domestic violence, 1206 01:11:29,285 --> 01:11:33,038 this was my pattern and what my body was asking for." 1207 01:11:33,122 --> 01:11:35,374 "He was only doing as my body asked, 1208 01:11:35,457 --> 01:11:40,296 and now I was shaming and blaming him for doing what I had asked for." 1209 01:11:40,379 --> 01:11:42,840 "I looked around the room. All eyes were downcast." 1210 01:11:42,923 --> 01:11:45,259 "Nobody was willing to stand for me." 1211 01:11:45,342 --> 01:11:49,680 "I never spoke again about the other times he hit me or dragged me around." 1212 01:11:49,763 --> 01:11:52,391 "Looking back now, I can't believe I stuck through it." 1213 01:11:52,474 --> 01:11:54,727 "I so wanted to believe he would change." 1214 01:11:54,810 --> 01:11:59,898 "I was told that sometimes our soulmates must do violent things to help us grow." 1215 01:11:59,982 --> 01:12:02,234 "It was only a way to condone violence." 1216 01:12:02,318 --> 01:12:05,821 "They did not want me to, one, go to the authorities, 1217 01:12:05,904 --> 01:12:10,284 two, have my boyfriend leave and take his money with him." 1218 01:12:11,702 --> 01:12:14,330 "This evening, this community member let his beast out." 1219 01:12:14,413 --> 01:12:16,957 "He picked me up, my arms pinned to my sides, 1220 01:12:17,041 --> 01:12:19,960 and began to shake me in front of everyone." 1221 01:12:20,044 --> 01:12:21,378 "Nobody did anything 1222 01:12:21,462 --> 01:12:26,050 as he screamed at me how he would like to rape me, beat me, use me, 1223 01:12:26,133 --> 01:12:28,927 that he knew where I slept and he would find me in the night." 1224 01:12:29,553 --> 01:12:33,349 "I was reprimanded afterwards for showing fear in the face of his beast." 1225 01:12:34,058 --> 01:12:35,934 "A true turned-on woman 1226 01:12:36,018 --> 01:12:39,730 would have taken his beast's cry for help with grace and love." 1227 01:12:41,315 --> 01:12:43,984 "I look back on it now and I'm not surprised 1228 01:12:44,068 --> 01:12:46,153 I was unable to sleep anymore, 1229 01:12:46,236 --> 01:12:48,489 that I left my body to survive." 1230 01:12:56,872 --> 01:12:59,750 After my story came out in 2018, 1231 01:12:59,833 --> 01:13:02,461 general readers, many of whom had never heard of OneTaste, 1232 01:13:02,544 --> 01:13:04,963 a lot of them were pretty shocked. 1233 01:13:05,047 --> 01:13:08,592 It's kind of a wild story, and I think it tugs at people's heart strings 1234 01:13:08,675 --> 01:13:12,137 to see people who are looking for answers in their life 1235 01:13:12,221 --> 01:13:13,221 ended up more jumbled 1236 01:13:13,263 --> 01:13:16,350 and more confused and more hurt than before. 1237 01:13:18,018 --> 01:13:22,689 And then separately, the response from the community was very strong. 1238 01:13:22,773 --> 01:13:26,110 You know, I heard from dozens of people after the story came out, 1239 01:13:26,193 --> 01:13:30,072 and they were really moved to see that a national magazine had captured 1240 01:13:30,155 --> 01:13:33,909 this very dark, sometimes shameful experience that they'd gone through 1241 01:13:33,992 --> 01:13:36,912 that they'd sometimes struggled to explain to their friends. 1242 01:13:38,455 --> 01:13:40,541 There were impacts at the company right away. 1243 01:13:40,624 --> 01:13:43,961 The CEO, Joanna Van Vleck, stepped down. 1244 01:13:44,044 --> 01:13:48,006 She remained at the company, but she stepped down from her role as CEO. 1245 01:13:48,090 --> 01:13:53,095 They stopped doing the coaching program, which was their flagship course. 1246 01:13:53,178 --> 01:13:56,390 They stopped holding in-person classes, and they started going virtual. 1247 01:13:56,473 --> 01:13:58,434 Press "How to OM," 1248 01:13:58,517 --> 01:14:02,104 then you'll find the OM 101 online free class. 1249 01:14:02,187 --> 01:14:05,691 And then a few months later, you know, I got a call from a source saying, 1250 01:14:05,774 --> 01:14:08,861 "Yesterday I got a knock on the door, and it was two FBI agents, 1251 01:14:08,944 --> 01:14:12,364 and they wanted to talk to me about what happened at OneTaste." 1252 01:14:13,949 --> 01:14:17,411 I think it's fascinating to think about people who think that 1253 01:14:17,494 --> 01:14:21,373 if only women ran the world, then everything would be perfect. 1254 01:14:21,457 --> 01:14:25,461 But this group, which had almost, like, a matriarchal spirit 1255 01:14:25,544 --> 01:14:28,380 from the very first day that it was started, 1256 01:14:28,464 --> 01:14:32,968 still fell into these patterns of alleged abuse of power. 1257 01:14:54,573 --> 01:14:57,618 I'm back in Tucson, where I grew up. 1258 01:14:57,701 --> 01:14:59,578 I'm about to have a phone call 1259 01:14:59,661 --> 01:15:03,248 with an FBI agent who's based out of New York. 1260 01:15:03,332 --> 01:15:05,751 He contacted me about two months ago. 1261 01:15:10,172 --> 01:15:12,716 They were really pushing this idea that 1262 01:15:12,799 --> 01:15:18,263 it's inherently natural for men to be predatory, 1263 01:15:18,347 --> 01:15:20,516 and that we should, like, 1264 01:15:21,225 --> 01:15:27,981 be welcoming of the predatory nature of men, 1265 01:15:28,774 --> 01:15:31,902 that we should find it hot, attractive. 1266 01:15:31,985 --> 01:15:35,405 And so when that thing about them 1267 01:15:35,489 --> 01:15:40,035 finding some strangers to rape her happened, 1268 01:15:40,118 --> 01:15:44,373 totally made sense to me as far as what the conversations I heard 1269 01:15:44,456 --> 01:15:46,166 and the behavior that I witnessed. 1270 01:16:02,057 --> 01:16:04,434 At one point, my sister called me. 1271 01:16:04,518 --> 01:16:08,105 She had been forced upon multiple people, 1272 01:16:08,188 --> 01:16:10,315 and that her boyfriend had beat her, 1273 01:16:10,399 --> 01:16:13,318 and she was at the bottom of the stairs, vomiting. 1274 01:16:14,194 --> 01:16:17,781 And I remember just sitting there being, "What are you doing?" 1275 01:16:17,864 --> 01:16:19,825 And this was right before she got out, 1276 01:16:19,908 --> 01:16:22,744 and I think this was one of the last things. 1277 01:16:22,828 --> 01:16:24,997 And I remember just crying on the phone, 1278 01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:28,417 "Why? Why are you doing this?" Like... 1279 01:16:30,502 --> 01:16:32,504 "I never wanted to OM with other people." 1280 01:16:32,588 --> 01:16:34,506 "I never wanted to have my body touched." 1281 01:16:34,590 --> 01:16:38,385 "It all was forced, and my body feels filled with shame and disgust." 1282 01:16:39,094 --> 01:16:41,763 "I remember being told not to go to the hospital, 1283 01:16:41,847 --> 01:16:42,889 that all the shaking, 1284 01:16:42,973 --> 01:16:46,893 the vomiting, the weightlessness, the sickness was just an orgasm." 1285 01:16:46,977 --> 01:16:50,647 "It was me alchemizing trauma and pain from when I was younger, 1286 01:16:50,731 --> 01:16:52,149 that if I just stuck with it, 1287 01:16:52,232 --> 01:16:55,402 I would ascend to my next level of awakening and freedom." 1288 01:16:55,485 --> 01:16:57,696 This is your sister's body reacting to 1289 01:16:57,779 --> 01:16:59,219 the sexual assault and the beatings. 1290 01:16:59,281 --> 01:17:01,325 Yes. Yes. Yep. Yep. 1291 01:17:01,408 --> 01:17:05,078 And the sexual assaults and the beatings, 1292 01:17:05,162 --> 01:17:07,748 and I think the manipulation 1293 01:17:07,831 --> 01:17:14,338 of trying to convince someone that that is right. 1294 01:17:31,396 --> 01:17:34,941 What prompted you to tell her story when she couldn't? 1295 01:17:35,567 --> 01:17:38,570 I want other people to see. 1296 01:17:38,654 --> 01:17:41,823 I want to potentially stop... 1297 01:17:48,372 --> 01:17:54,378 I wanted to... speak out for someone who couldn't speak for herself. 1298 01:17:54,461 --> 01:18:00,676 I wanted to tell the story of someone that was, I guess, silenced in all of it 1299 01:18:00,759 --> 01:18:03,095 and pushed under the rug, 1300 01:18:03,178 --> 01:18:06,181 and I had the availability to do so, 1301 01:18:06,264 --> 01:18:10,143 and I only hope that other people don't fall into it, 1302 01:18:10,227 --> 01:18:12,437 and that other people see this 1303 01:18:12,521 --> 01:18:19,277 and understand that it's just... it's, it's not worth it and it's dangerous. 1304 01:18:23,824 --> 01:18:27,077 "When I decided to leave, I went and talked to Nicole." 1305 01:18:27,703 --> 01:18:29,204 "When I arrived at her apartment, 1306 01:18:29,287 --> 01:18:32,541 it was like the rose-colored glasses had finally fallen off." 1307 01:18:32,624 --> 01:18:37,212 "When I told her how the organization had hurt me and continued to hurt others, 1308 01:18:37,295 --> 01:18:39,965 when I told her it was a cult and she needed to fix it, 1309 01:18:40,048 --> 01:18:43,093 she acted innocent and confused, shocked even." 1310 01:18:43,176 --> 01:18:45,429 "She insisted she had no idea." 1311 01:18:45,512 --> 01:18:49,558 "Either she is an idiot and so completely lost in her lack of reality 1312 01:18:49,641 --> 01:18:52,227 she doesn't allow herself to see it, 1313 01:18:52,310 --> 01:18:54,855 or she's deeply twisted and very sick 1314 01:18:54,938 --> 01:19:00,318 and finds it perfectly okay to use, abuse, traumatize, and destroy others' lives 1315 01:19:00,402 --> 01:19:02,529 for her own personal gain." 1316 01:19:12,497 --> 01:19:16,001 I was having a hard time, having left OneTaste and living on my own, 1317 01:19:16,084 --> 01:19:20,630 and I was questioning a lot of their practices. 1318 01:19:21,423 --> 01:19:25,552 It was all very rattling to me, because as soon as I left, 1319 01:19:25,635 --> 01:19:27,262 I kept hearing things. 1320 01:19:29,306 --> 01:19:35,312 I think as a result of, like, having this lingo and these secret words... 1321 01:19:37,522 --> 01:19:38,565 when I left that, 1322 01:19:38,648 --> 01:19:42,444 I could almost not understand the way that other people spoke. 1323 01:19:43,862 --> 01:19:48,575 So, I'd just hear, like, a word out of nowhere when there was no one around. 1324 01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:58,293 For basically two years after I left OneTaste, 1325 01:19:58,376 --> 01:20:02,172 I kind of accepted that maybe I had ruined my life. 1326 01:20:03,006 --> 01:20:04,758 I couldn't really think straight. 1327 01:20:04,841 --> 01:20:07,886 It was hard to relate to normies, you know. 1328 01:20:07,969 --> 01:20:13,433 So all I could really do and feel sane was blue-collar work, working with my hands. 1329 01:20:13,517 --> 01:20:15,727 And yeah, I kind of entered this space 1330 01:20:15,811 --> 01:20:18,939 where I accepted maybe I had fried my brain. 1331 01:20:19,022 --> 01:20:21,024 I mean, I think it just took time. 1332 01:20:22,317 --> 01:20:23,985 When the Bloomberg article came out 1333 01:20:24,069 --> 01:20:26,738 it made a lot more noise than I expected. 1334 01:20:27,239 --> 01:20:28,559 Obviously, my parents freaked out 1335 01:20:28,615 --> 01:20:30,659 'cause they read about me being in a sex cult. 1336 01:20:32,327 --> 01:20:36,206 A private investigator left a bunch of voicemails late at night. 1337 01:20:37,290 --> 01:20:40,043 He was kind of insinuating I was gonna be in a lawsuit. 1338 01:20:45,507 --> 01:20:49,261 Would your sister be here today telling her story if she could? 1339 01:20:51,513 --> 01:20:53,807 She would, yes. 1340 01:20:55,475 --> 01:21:00,188 My sister always wants better and always pushes forward, 1341 01:21:00,272 --> 01:21:03,900 and right now, she is getting her PhD 1342 01:21:03,984 --> 01:21:07,904 and living the best life that she can, in spite of everything that happened. 1343 01:21:07,988 --> 01:21:10,240 Not because, but in spite of. 1344 01:21:15,161 --> 01:21:16,761 People who used to be in OneTaste 1345 01:21:16,830 --> 01:21:20,208 are always curious about what exactly is going on with the company now. 1346 01:21:21,042 --> 01:21:25,630 There's still OneTaste staff members who live at The Land, 1347 01:21:25,714 --> 01:21:29,384 which is their farm in Mendocino County. 1348 01:21:32,304 --> 01:21:35,765 So, I've heard that Nicole is living up on The Land, 1349 01:21:35,849 --> 01:21:39,603 she's back in the United States and that she's at The Land right now. 1350 01:21:40,353 --> 01:21:42,898 I'm surprised that she came back, 1351 01:21:42,981 --> 01:21:45,942 given that there's an active FBI investigation. 1352 01:21:47,861 --> 01:21:50,030 The times that I've gone back, 1353 01:21:51,239 --> 01:21:53,867 it's like I know that I was in a cult 1354 01:21:53,950 --> 01:21:58,705 because I automatically feel... like I'm back home 1355 01:21:58,788 --> 01:22:00,749 and I wanna stay there forever. 1356 01:22:04,753 --> 01:22:08,173 And they're not actually... Like, they never cared about me. 1357 01:22:12,844 --> 01:22:15,597 I basically took a swan dive into this project 1358 01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:19,809 without really... um... thinking of 1359 01:22:21,186 --> 01:22:23,521 how people will feel when they see it. 1360 01:22:24,481 --> 01:22:25,481 Yeah. 1361 01:22:26,024 --> 01:22:28,318 And how do you think people will feel? 1362 01:22:29,069 --> 01:22:33,782 I have no idea. Like, that's something that's really hard to gauge 1363 01:22:33,865 --> 01:22:35,659 with OneTaste and Nicole. 1364 01:22:35,742 --> 01:22:41,206 You know, we have that precept of, "Stay connected no matter what." 1365 01:22:43,333 --> 01:22:45,293 "I'm so tired of hearing it, 1366 01:22:45,377 --> 01:22:48,463 that 'you are such a smart girl. How could that happen to you?'" 1367 01:22:48,546 --> 01:22:50,465 "'How could you let that happen?'" 1368 01:22:50,548 --> 01:22:53,885 "They start off with love. Experts call it 'love bombing, ' 1369 01:22:53,969 --> 01:22:57,222 bringing you into the fold, making you feel special and seen, 1370 01:22:57,305 --> 01:22:58,348 cared for and valued." 1371 01:22:59,683 --> 01:23:01,184 "Then they pull it away, 1372 01:23:01,267 --> 01:23:03,478 push you down to the very bottom, 1373 01:23:03,561 --> 01:23:08,191 expel you from the community, take away your access to purpose and meaning, 1374 01:23:08,274 --> 01:23:11,277 and even at times, take away your connection to God." 1375 01:23:12,362 --> 01:23:15,156 "We cling to this idea that we have control, 1376 01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:18,660 that people who are abused and manipulated are somehow dumb or lesser, 1377 01:23:19,327 --> 01:23:21,663 that they should have seen it coming." 1378 01:23:21,746 --> 01:23:24,249 "What I see now is those people who believe 1379 01:23:24,332 --> 01:23:26,209 that this would never happen to them 1380 01:23:26,292 --> 01:23:28,253 are only grasping for control, 1381 01:23:28,336 --> 01:23:29,963 clinging to this idea 1382 01:23:30,046 --> 01:23:32,340 that they would never allow this to happen." 1383 01:23:35,135 --> 01:23:40,515 I want the people who are capable of understanding what OneTaste was... 1384 01:23:40,598 --> 01:23:44,644 ...to know this thing existed, 1385 01:23:44,728 --> 01:23:46,563 this thing that had somehow 1386 01:23:46,646 --> 01:23:49,858 called each of us out of the lives that we'd been living. 1387 01:23:54,362 --> 01:23:57,657 I can't even say what that thing was exactly. 1388 01:23:58,533 --> 01:24:03,121 It was sex, it was orgasm, it was exploration, it was growth, 1389 01:24:03,204 --> 01:24:04,372 it was fear, 1390 01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:06,291 it was trauma. 1391 01:24:06,374 --> 01:24:11,004 It was all of these things, like, woven and wrapped together. 1392 01:24:11,713 --> 01:24:14,966 And while we were in it, it lit us up 1393 01:24:15,050 --> 01:24:20,638 in a way that we had scarcely even dared to imagine that we could be lit up. 1394 01:24:21,389 --> 01:24:23,767 I think it's important for us to understand, 1395 01:24:23,850 --> 01:24:27,729 what is it about a group like OneTaste that people are drawn to? 1396 01:24:27,812 --> 01:24:29,606 The things that all people want. 1397 01:24:29,689 --> 01:24:33,026 Love, connection, belonging. 1398 01:24:33,109 --> 01:24:34,527 Who wouldn't want those things? 1399 01:24:36,112 --> 01:24:37,447 And at the same time, 1400 01:24:37,530 --> 01:24:41,076 if you have a leader and a culture that goes too far, 1401 01:24:41,159 --> 01:24:42,869 things can become dangerous. 116563

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