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Whoa, what was
that?! I saw something,
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just boom, real
quick, across the sky.
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We need a much larger
rocket that can go up through
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the triangle and
multiple very large lasers.
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You are proposing
something on a grand scale.
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- There it goes.
- Oh. Let’s go.
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Oh, my God.
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Travis, you-you got to see this.
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It disappeared.
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What did it disappear into?
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Are we seeing portals opening?
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There is a ranch
in Northern Utah.
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It is considered the epicenter
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of the strangest and most
disturbing phenomena on Earth:
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animal mutilations,
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bizarre UFO sightings
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and unusual energies that
have proven harmful to humans.
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For 20 years, the
federal government
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tried to find
answers and failed.
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Now a new team of
dedicated scientists,
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researchers and
experts has taken over.
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They are determined to
solve the mystery and reveal...
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The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch.
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- Hey, Pete.
- Hey, hey.
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Yeah, it’s good
to have you back.
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Can’t wait to see what
you’re packing this time.
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How’s it going?
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We’ve had the most
incredible year yet
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investigating and stimulating
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all kinds of strange phenomena
on Skinwalker Ranch.
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But the weather is
about to turn really harsh,
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as fall sets in, meaning
that we’re out of time
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to conduct any more
large-scale experiments.
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I brought some goodies.
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- We can do photogrammetry.
- Now, that’s good.
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So we invited technologist
Pete Kelsey back
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to perform a final high-tech
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3D photogrammetry drone
scan of the entire ranch.
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Well, I’m excited to
have you out here.
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- It’d be great to take you back to the mesa.
- Let’s go.
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All right. Let’s do it.
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Photogrammetry is a process
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where thousands of
high-definition photographs
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are taken of an area of interest
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and combined to create a
detailed three-dimensional map,
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potentially revealing features
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that aren’t visible
to the naked eye.
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- About right here is good.
- All right.
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Before we have to
put our investigation
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on hold until next year,
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we want to get a 3D model
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of every part of the ranch to
see if any anomalies appear.
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If something shows up,
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maybe it will help us determine
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what is behind all the UAPs
and the other phenomena
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that we’ve documented here.
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- This looks great.
- Uh-huh.
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Well, start, uh, getting set up
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- and let’s do this thing.
- Okay.
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Pete Kelsey has brought on
some of the most advanced
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technology one
can get his hands on.
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- Have a matching set, thank you.
- Okay, yeah, sure.
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This drone is a
robotic flying platform
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that has exquisite
spatial awareness.
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That very precise
positional awareness
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is essential for reconstructing
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an accurate three-dimensional
model of the property.
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We’re interested to find out
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whether the results will
bear out anything anomalous.
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Well, I’m ready
when you guys are.
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Great. We need to get back
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to the command center
to work on some stuff.
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Maybe we’ll just
leave you to go at it.
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Yeah, I’ve got all my stuff
here, so I’ll just have at it.
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Okay, well, if it’s all right
with you I’ll stick around.
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I don’t like leaving guests
out here by themselves.
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So, if you’re okay with some
company, I’ll stay with you.
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-I... I appreciate it. Thank you, sir.
-Okay, happy to.
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All right. Well, we’ll
load up and head back.
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So, once all the
data I’ve collected
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is post-processed in a nice,
neat package, I hand that
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to Erik, and he does the
heavy lifting, and that is
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spending hours and hours
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going through this data,
because it’s all visual.
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All right, I’ve got
all green lights here.
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Spinning up.
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Literally it comes down to
putting eyes on the model
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and looking for
anything interesting.
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Have a look.
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That’s so cool.
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That’s amazing.
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While Pete was conducting
his photogrammetry scan
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of the ranch, I
went to my trailer
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to have a videoconference with
author and renowned astronomer
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Seth Shostak.
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Hello, Seth. How you doing?
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- Travis, good to see you.
- It’s been a while.
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Uh, I wanted to catch
up with you and...
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Now, Seth is the
senior astronomer
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for the institute known as SETI.
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Which stands for the Search
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for Extraterrestrial
Intelligence.
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I wanted to talk to him
about the mysterious
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1.6 gigahertz signal
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that we’ve been
detecting on the ranch,
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which I believe could be some
kind of communication signal.
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As you know, I’m
out here as part
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of this investigation
of Skinwalker Ranch.
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And we’re actually finding
some really weird stuff.
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We’re finding optical phenomena
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and all sorts of different
regimes of energy.
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And even a strange RF
signal at 1.6 gigahertz.
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And what I wanted to ask you
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is, if I found a
signal that I thought
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was an intelligent
communication,
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what protocols
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SETI would use
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in a situation like that?
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Uh, to start, you know,
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verifying, validating
and reporting?
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Well, there is a protocol.
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In fact, I was the chair
of the, uh, committee
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that revised those protocols
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about five years ago.
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First thing is, if you
pick up a signal that
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you think might be ET,
you want to make sure it isn’t
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a telecommunications satellite,
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it isn’t the radar down
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at a local airport
or anything like that.
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The second thing you
do is, you tell everybody.
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You would want to do that
because you want people
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at other facilities
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to check out the signal, too.
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I see.
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So, let me ask you a question.
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Say we have confirmed
an optical, uh... signal.
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And it’s repeatable.
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If you go through
the process and you...
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rule out all of the...
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potential, uh, logical culprits.
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The microwave
oven, an airplane...
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a-a satellite, you know,
those types of things.
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What would be your next
step in, in, uh, verifying?
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Well, as to say, uh, you
know, you’re really critically
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dependent on
being able to verify
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the signal at
some other facility.
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So, you would insist on
finding it somewhere else.
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Right.
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All right, Erik.
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She’s about to broadcast it.
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Seth’s suggestion
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that we would want
confirmation of the 1.6 gigahertz
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communication signal at
another location struck me
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because that’s exactly
what happened a month ago
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at the Jack FM radio station
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about 11 miles north
of Skinwalker Ranch.
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After the station manager
and DJ, Jenn Rook,
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told me and Erik that the
same kind of signal had
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infiltrated their airwaves,
we decided to see what
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would happen if she
broadcast it back out.
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- There it is.
- Wow.
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It really changed her
waveform big-time.
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Well, the next day, Jim Morse
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showed us some incredible
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videos of UAPs
that were recorded
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by people in the
area later that night.
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Jim, When was this video taken?
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Last night, about 8:00 p.m.
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- Really?
- That’s just a few hours
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after we played that
sound on the radio, Erik.
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No kidding.
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Well, it sounds
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as if the signal
you’re picking up is
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generated locally, right?
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That there’s something
in your immediate area
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that is producing this signal.
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Is that kind of what
you’re suggesting here?
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Yep.
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So imagine,
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you know, an
advanced civilization
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wanted to communicate
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in real time,
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what type of phenomenology
or telltale signs
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might SETI look for?
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If it’s really coming
from another society,
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it would be in one direction.
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And that’s kind of the clue,
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that you would see it coming
from that direction on the sky.
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I think that’s exactly what
I wanted to hear, Seth.
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It was interesting how Seth,
a highly accredited scientist
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who researches the
potential for ET life,
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believed the type of
communication signal
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we’ve detected would come from
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a specific direction,
because that’s
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exactly what
happened on the ranch.
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Go back the other way.
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Five weeks ago, when we detected
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the 1.6 gigahertz signal,
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it came from a specific spot.
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It’s coming back. Right
there, right there, stop.
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Where we had just launched
a rocket near Homestead Two.
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- So it’s very directional.
- Yeah.
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Are you kidding me?
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And then, later that night,
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Erik recorded an incredible UAP
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moving around the homestead.
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We can’t be for sure if
that communication signal
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we’ve detected was what
led to the UAP appearing,
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or if it represents
more evidence
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that portals could really exist
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on Skinwalker Ranch,
but talking with Seth
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just makes me more convinced
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that we are getting
closer to some answers.
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That helps me a lot.
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I really appreciate it.
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Well, any time, Travis. You
know, it’s always my pleasure
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- to speak with you.
- Yeah, me, too, man.
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If we do find something
and we need to get someone
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out here to verify,
uh, I’ll give you a call.
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- Thanks, Travis.
- Uh-huh.
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Buh-bye.
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Howdy, Erik.
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- Hey.
- How’s it going, Erik?
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That’s a pretty picture of the
mesa that you got there, Erik.
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Oh, you, you are
gonna enjoy this.
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The day after Pete
Kelsey conducted
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his photogrammetry
scan of the ranch,
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he sent Erik all of
his compiled data files
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for us to review.
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Well, I’ve got only about
a billion data points.
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Of course this comes out of
Pete Kelsey’s recent survey work.
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This is a
three-dimensional model.
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It’s point-cloud data.
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What it is, is
individual points that
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have been located
through a complex algorithm
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coming out of all
these thousands
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of pictures that he’s taken.
So you take all those images,
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you stitch them together and
you get a three-dimensional
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- model. Oh, yeah.
- That’s incredible.
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Yeah, so, I’ve
been diving into this.
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And turns out there are some
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very interesting
artifacts showing up.
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- Whoa! I just saw one.
- You might. Did you see it?
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- Yeah. In the sky.
- Okay.
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- Oh. Right there.
- Yes!
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- Oh, weird.
- Yes.
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That looks like that’s a whole
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- bunch of points right there.
- Oh, it is.
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Well, what would cause it to
do that if that’s up in the air?
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That’s the question.
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Look at this structure.
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This phantom structure
that’s sticking up in the sky.
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This is odd. I got to
tell you... There it is.
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Wow, that thing is really
prominent from here, it’s like,
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- it’s a... some sort
of big feature. Yeah.
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You know, it looks more
than a hundred feet in the air.
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That’s nuts.
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One way of
interpreting this is to say
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that the drone did not,
uh, properly register
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its correct GPS position
when it took the pictures.
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- Were you thinking that?
- I was, I was about to suggest
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that we’ve had such
trouble with those drones
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and their GPS
coordinates being spoofed,
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- hacked or jammed.
- Yes. Yes.
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What if it thought it was
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somewhere else when
it took those pictures?
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- But you’ve got tens of positions.
- Correct.
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That-that should
cancel itself out.
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Well, you’d have to have
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a lingering condition
in that space
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that causes some
sort of displacement,
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some phantom displacement
of the reckoned position,
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the measured position
of the drone in the sky.
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What’s so strange
here is, if the GPS
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was being spoofed
for the whole survey,
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the final photogrammetry
image would be a big blur.
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That’s not what’s
happening at all.
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This one specific spot
over the ranch is confusing
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the photogrammetry data
and confusing it from a number
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of different angles, which
makes me think there’s
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something really strange
about this particular area.
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Another interpretation might
be if you did have some kind
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of translucent effect
or object in the sky,
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then I suppose it
might also cause
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the algorithm to
perceive those pixels,
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whose color comes
from the ground, as being
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you know, somewhere
else, up in the air.
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Has Pete seen this
before? Did you ask him?
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That’s the other important
point. I’ve connected with Pete
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and I’ve also spoken with the,
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the vendor of this software,
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asking, "Is this common?"
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And the answer that
I’ve gotten is, "No."
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Really?
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This is not a common thing
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in the terrestrial
surveys like this.
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Are there any other
areas in his survey
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that have this sort
of artifact to them?
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Yes.
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I want to show you
something at another location
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that we’ve visited that
is part of this survey.
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- Okay.
- Okay?
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This is right above the
petroglyph area, right?
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- Yes.
- It is.
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Just on the edge
of our property.
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- Right.
- And you’ll recognize
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- the stone circle here.
- Yeah.
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And the feature that
I want to show you
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is actually very close
to this stone circle.
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- See what’s hap... there you go.
- Oh, there you go.
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Right there.
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So let me spin us around.
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- I noticed a couple things here.
- Well, now look at this.
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And-and you may observe
the same thing I have.
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Yeah, so line those two up,
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and where are they pointing?
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This feature, this artifact,
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the largest stone that was
part of the, of the stone circle
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and that prominent
thing that’s jetting up,
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you know, further to the south.
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You have three points in a line.
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Wow.
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Interestingly and
somewhat mysteriously,
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the anomalies to the
south and to the north
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of the stone circle
align perfectly
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with that large center
stone in the stone circle itself.
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Could be a coincidence,
but it sure is suggestive.
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- What are the odds of that?
- Right.
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We’ve learned not to ignore
any anomalous features
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in our data even if we have
no idea what to make of them.
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So that, to me, seems
like you’ve almost
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drawn a ray from
the other anomaly
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- through this stone...
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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To this, this anomaly.
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If we’ve got a line
being drawn here,
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then what is that
line pointing to?
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What is the line there for?
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We need to mark these spots
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because, you
know, what if this is
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somehow mapping an anomaly
that we need to investigate.
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You remember last year
when we had that expert out,
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he said that the petroglyph
was depicting a portal.
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So, I mean, if we’re
getting way out there,
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that pillar’s alignment
with it kind of looks like,
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in the data points, a spiraling
thing, portal-type feature.
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That’s interesting.
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Last year we had
Dr. Alan Garfinkel
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come out to examine some
petroglyphs we’d discovered
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on the east side of the property
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right by the location
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of this strange aerial
anomaly that we’re seeing.
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What I’m looking
at is these curves.
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It’s a metaphor for
a serpent or a snake.
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Snakes represents
two different worlds,
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so it’s a guardian
to the portals.
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The portal is a window
into the supernatural.
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Dragon is right about the
petroglyphs near this area,
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but this strange structure in
Pete’s photogrammetry data
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is right above a mysterious
spiral of boulders on the mesa.
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I’m thinking there’s
definitely something here.
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And earlier this year, Navajo
expert and historian John Dover
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told us this feature may have
been constructed by ancient
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Indigenous people to represent
a very specific phenomenon.
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Looking at this
place in its entirety,
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it struck me as a holy place.
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We have basically
a spiral right here
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that’s been put into
this ground here.
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That spiral is indicative of...?
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A portal, a dimensional
rift, an opening.
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We have so much
data pointing that
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there is something
up in the sky going on.
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And I honestly,
I’m not so sure that
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that petroglyph isn’t
telling us that there’s
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- something in the sky over the ranch, you know?
- Right.
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Because that’s
what it looks like.
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00:16:21,022 --> 00:16:24,192
Could Pete Kelsey have
actually captured visual evidence
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00:16:24,317 --> 00:16:27,236
that there really are portals
on Skinwalker Ranch?
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And could it help explain
why we see UAPs appear
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and then suddenly disappear?
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Well, we owe it to
ourselves to follow up
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on every data anomaly
that we come across,
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particularly when
they’re as prominent
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as the ones we’re
looking at here.
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Erik, the data is
absolutely fascinating.
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We need to meet with
Brandon and review this
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and everything else
we’ve learned this year.
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I think we’ve just got to do
that and follow up on this data.
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00:16:51,219 --> 00:16:53,178
- Yep.
- Let’s do it.
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- Greetings, everyone.
- Hey.
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I think everyone would
agree this past year has
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been the most
productive year in history,
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relative to the investigation
at Skinwalker Ranch.
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We launched this
phase of the investigation
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with former Governor Herbert.
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Uh, his interest
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00:17:17,827 --> 00:17:20,407
and ongoing
engagement with this effort
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has been an important
part of really elevating
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the formality of this research
and how important it is.
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We also have joining us today,
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investigative journalist
George Knapp.
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Best known as the
leading journalist
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00:17:36,096 --> 00:17:38,886
documenting the
reality of not only
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the ranch, but this
type of phenomena.
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00:17:41,644 --> 00:17:43,693
I’d like to say, Governor,
by the way, you have
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00:17:43,770 --> 00:17:46,111
a really beautiful state, but
it’s an awfully weird state.
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00:17:48,567 --> 00:17:51,357
I think today will be a
very eye-opening day
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00:17:51,444 --> 00:17:54,025
and briefing for our guests.
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00:17:54,115 --> 00:17:57,795
Well, I’m so excited to hear
what you have to tell me,
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00:17:57,867 --> 00:17:59,577
and learn from
what’s taken place.
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00:17:59,662 --> 00:18:01,412
I think it’s not only
important for Utah
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00:18:01,497 --> 00:18:03,474
to find out what’s happening
within our borders, by the way,
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00:18:03,499 --> 00:18:05,288
but for America and the world.
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00:18:05,375 --> 00:18:07,036
And so what it leads
us to, who knows?
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00:18:07,127 --> 00:18:09,167
But I think it’s important
that we find out.
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00:18:09,297 --> 00:18:10,626
Yes, absolutely.
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00:18:10,714 --> 00:18:12,192
I think the best
thing to do would be,
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00:18:12,215 --> 00:18:13,465
uh, let’s just start.
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00:18:13,550 --> 00:18:15,391
We’ve done so many experiments,
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00:18:15,469 --> 00:18:17,808
captured so much video,
so much measurement data,
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00:18:17,887 --> 00:18:20,268
of unidentified
aerial phenomena.
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00:18:20,348 --> 00:18:22,808
We’ve seen so many this summer
422
00:18:22,893 --> 00:18:25,653
with the various experiments
that we’ve done and so many
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00:18:25,770 --> 00:18:28,070
witnesses and
instruments capturing them
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that it’s undeniable that
that’s what we have captured.
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00:18:31,611 --> 00:18:34,570
Um, I do have footage
that I can share.
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00:18:34,654 --> 00:18:37,115
I’m going to go ahead
and play it in real time.
427
00:18:39,076 --> 00:18:40,826
We had just launched a rocket
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00:18:40,911 --> 00:18:43,330
over Homestead Two
and fortunately we did
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00:18:43,413 --> 00:18:45,003
have a camera
looking in that direction.
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00:18:48,251 --> 00:18:50,501
- Wow.
- It’s unbelievable.
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00:18:50,630 --> 00:18:53,130
We saw so many this summer,
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I don’t know that
I could remember
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00:18:55,175 --> 00:18:58,465
accurately and go back and
count how many there’s been.
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00:18:58,554 --> 00:19:00,973
The experiments we
conducted this year led
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00:19:01,057 --> 00:19:03,846
to some of the most
compelling and confounding UAP
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00:19:03,933 --> 00:19:07,104
incidents ever documented
on Skinwalker Ranch.
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00:19:08,689 --> 00:19:11,608
Using rockets, and digging
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00:19:11,692 --> 00:19:14,321
to stimulate the activity...
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00:19:14,403 --> 00:19:16,163
Whoa! What was that?
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00:19:16,238 --> 00:19:19,448
UAPs appeared numerous
times at Homestead Two...
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00:19:19,532 --> 00:19:22,492
- Hey, look, UAP right there!
- Yep, I see it.
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00:19:22,577 --> 00:19:24,038
And above the triangle area.
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00:19:24,163 --> 00:19:26,873
Look in the sky, y’all!
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00:19:26,957 --> 00:19:30,787
We’ve seen a lot of
unidentified aerial phenomena.
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00:19:30,877 --> 00:19:32,798
Some that I would
say even qualify
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00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,549
as unidentified flying objects.
447
00:19:36,049 --> 00:19:38,509
Erik, if you wanna show
them what it is that we saw.
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00:19:38,594 --> 00:19:42,394
You’ll notice this bright
object to the center moving
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00:19:42,472 --> 00:19:45,893
in a peculiar way and exhibiting
some peculiar characteristics.
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00:19:49,270 --> 00:19:52,020
This object, whatever it is,
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00:19:52,107 --> 00:19:54,817
appears brighter than Jupiter.
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00:19:57,238 --> 00:19:59,567
- It’s clearly moving.
- Yeah, and it is moving
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00:19:59,699 --> 00:20:03,038
in a different way than a
satellite would be moving.
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00:20:03,868 --> 00:20:06,159
There was no air
traffic in the area.
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00:20:06,247 --> 00:20:07,747
And you see no
navigation lights.
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00:20:07,832 --> 00:20:09,922
And it actually came toward us,
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00:20:10,041 --> 00:20:12,041
and then it made
a dogleg maneuver,
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00:20:12,127 --> 00:20:13,877
and then turned to the east.
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00:20:13,962 --> 00:20:16,593
We all saw with the
naked eye, this thing.
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I mean, for lack
of a better term,
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00:20:18,299 --> 00:20:19,759
it looked almost
like a flying donut.
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00:20:19,844 --> 00:20:21,263
I mean, it was bright.
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00:20:21,386 --> 00:20:24,257
And then it had a
defined dark center to it.
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This is a solid structure.
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00:20:27,518 --> 00:20:30,057
It was captured from
multiple camera viewpoints.
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00:20:30,145 --> 00:20:34,895
And had eyewitnesses
both on and off the ranch.
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00:20:34,983 --> 00:20:36,614
It looks like there’s
structure to it.
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00:20:36,693 --> 00:20:38,114
And large enough
and bright enough
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00:20:38,194 --> 00:20:39,025
that you could see
it with the naked eye.
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- Yes. - Easily.
- Sure.
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This one is the
one that I would say
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is not a UAP, that it’s a UFO.
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And, Erik has captured an odd
sound emanating from the ranch.
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00:20:51,959 --> 00:20:56,048
And we see it almost every time
one of these phenomena occur.
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00:20:56,130 --> 00:20:58,130
Hey, hey, hey,
hey, hey, it’s here!
476
00:20:58,214 --> 00:21:01,295
We got that 1.6 thing.
477
00:21:01,384 --> 00:21:04,255
Erik, are you doing
something at 1.6?
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00:21:04,346 --> 00:21:06,135
I’m not broadcasting.
479
00:21:06,222 --> 00:21:09,143
I swear that sounds like
a communication signal.
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00:21:11,228 --> 00:21:12,347
We see this
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00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,980
1.6 or so gigahertz signal
482
00:21:15,065 --> 00:21:18,605
at times when we don’t have
eyes on any kind of UAP, there’s just
483
00:21:18,693 --> 00:21:21,614
some other activity as part
of our investigation going on.
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00:21:21,696 --> 00:21:23,156
For example, drilling, digging.
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00:21:23,281 --> 00:21:25,412
Could this be a fingerprint?
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00:21:25,492 --> 00:21:27,492
Or at least the trace evidence
487
00:21:27,577 --> 00:21:29,958
of the technology
that is being utilized?
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00:21:30,038 --> 00:21:32,118
That-that is a, uh, possible
speculation, Brandon,
489
00:21:32,208 --> 00:21:34,208
but I would say it’s one
of those correlations that
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00:21:34,250 --> 00:21:37,090
we haven’t proved that
they’re definitively tied
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00:21:37,171 --> 00:21:38,921
to each other, but
the statistics are really
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00:21:39,006 --> 00:21:41,586
getting hard to, uh, ignore.
493
00:21:41,674 --> 00:21:43,835
I’ve heard these stories
about people that pick up
494
00:21:43,969 --> 00:21:46,598
radio stations on the fillings
in their teeth over the years.
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00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,099
Uh, coming back to
the idea of frequencies,
496
00:21:49,182 --> 00:21:51,482
Lue Elizondo, who
headed the AATIP program,
497
00:21:51,559 --> 00:21:54,599
has indicated that there is a
frequency that they have studied
498
00:21:54,688 --> 00:21:57,268
that pops up again and
again in these military
499
00:21:57,357 --> 00:22:00,107
encounters with what
we’d call UAP or UFOs.
500
00:22:00,193 --> 00:22:04,703
I can tell you, uh, definitively
that the UAPx guys,
501
00:22:04,824 --> 00:22:07,493
they told us specifically
that they were
502
00:22:07,576 --> 00:22:09,576
looking for microwaves,
so I told them,
503
00:22:09,702 --> 00:22:11,833
"Just look between
one and three gigahertz,"
504
00:22:11,913 --> 00:22:14,044
and they came
back to us and said,
505
00:22:14,165 --> 00:22:16,286
"We had a sighting the
other night and you were right.
506
00:22:16,376 --> 00:22:18,166
We picked up something
at 1.6 gigahertz."
507
00:22:18,253 --> 00:22:20,713
- And this was in California.
- Wow.
508
00:22:20,839 --> 00:22:24,220
So, it seems that this
1.6 gigahertz is somehow
509
00:22:24,300 --> 00:22:27,010
- connected to these sightings.
- Yeah.
510
00:22:27,096 --> 00:22:30,306
Well, uh, there’s some kind
of electromagnetic effects.
511
00:22:30,391 --> 00:22:32,810
It’s always been
associated with the ranch.
512
00:22:32,893 --> 00:22:34,903
Uh, when you think
you’re ready to document it,
513
00:22:34,979 --> 00:22:37,019
it goes somewhere
else. It plays tricks on you.
514
00:22:37,105 --> 00:22:39,645
Compasses spin, batteries die,
515
00:22:39,732 --> 00:22:43,153
vehicles crap out,
cameras go off-line.
516
00:22:43,237 --> 00:22:45,067
And whatever this force is,
517
00:22:45,154 --> 00:22:47,065
whatever the source
of the intelligence,
518
00:22:47,199 --> 00:22:48,989
it shows you
that it’s in charge.
519
00:22:50,035 --> 00:22:54,244
It reminds me of this
recent experience...
520
00:22:55,249 --> 00:22:57,538
with Dragon and Tom Lewis.
521
00:22:59,169 --> 00:23:02,419
I think it’s important for...
522
00:23:02,506 --> 00:23:04,256
Governor Herbert to hear
523
00:23:04,340 --> 00:23:06,471
of your most recent experience,
524
00:23:06,594 --> 00:23:08,554
that literally brought
you to your knees.
525
00:23:15,059 --> 00:23:16,519
Yeah, it was probably,
526
00:23:16,604 --> 00:23:19,443
well, probably the
scariest moment,
527
00:23:19,522 --> 00:23:20,982
you know, personally... I know
528
00:23:21,107 --> 00:23:22,586
- it was for you obviously, Tom.
- Definitely.
529
00:23:22,609 --> 00:23:26,319
Yeah, so this day
we were drilling.
530
00:23:26,446 --> 00:23:29,237
Dragon had this idea,
maybe we should go check out
531
00:23:29,325 --> 00:23:30,954
Homestead Two,
see if there’s any weird
532
00:23:31,035 --> 00:23:32,744
readings happening there.
533
00:23:34,203 --> 00:23:37,374
We go down to Homestead Two.
534
00:23:37,458 --> 00:23:39,458
Everything seems normal.
We took instruments.
535
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,630
We’ll see if anything
strange pops up and...
536
00:23:43,713 --> 00:23:45,384
- keep in touch with them.
- Yeah.
537
00:23:47,675 --> 00:23:50,546
This doggone thing
is broadcasting.
538
00:23:50,637 --> 00:23:53,597
This thing shouldn’t be
broadcasting anything.
539
00:23:54,557 --> 00:23:55,597
Hey, Bryant? Tom?
540
00:23:55,683 --> 00:23:56,943
Do you copy?
541
00:23:57,019 --> 00:23:58,479
Yeah, I got you. Go ahead, Erik.
542
00:23:58,604 --> 00:24:00,614
Erik came on the
walkie and said,
543
00:24:00,689 --> 00:24:02,519
"Listen to this sound."
544
00:24:02,650 --> 00:24:04,779
We’ve got an RF
spectrum analyzer,
545
00:24:04,859 --> 00:24:06,240
which is a receiver
546
00:24:06,319 --> 00:24:08,450
that seems to be broadcasting,
547
00:24:08,529 --> 00:24:10,529
instead of just receiving.
548
00:24:10,657 --> 00:24:13,157
Well, just have
a listen at this.
549
00:24:14,869 --> 00:24:17,079
That sound that
was broadcast over
550
00:24:17,163 --> 00:24:18,753
the radio was a set of beeps.
551
00:24:18,832 --> 00:24:22,422
I heard static and,
like, a roaring train.
552
00:24:25,923 --> 00:24:27,512
Are you okay?
553
00:24:27,590 --> 00:24:29,090
No.
554
00:24:29,175 --> 00:24:31,425
My eyes went black.
555
00:24:31,511 --> 00:24:32,852
I couldn’t see.
556
00:24:32,971 --> 00:24:34,602
- And...
- Like you went blind?
557
00:24:34,682 --> 00:24:37,932
Uh, yeah, I was a
little bit conscious still
558
00:24:38,018 --> 00:24:40,188
and so I dropped to the ground
559
00:24:40,269 --> 00:24:43,269
and my whole left arm was numb.
560
00:24:43,356 --> 00:24:46,686
And so, at this
point, I’m scared.
561
00:24:46,777 --> 00:24:48,297
I’m thinking I’m
having a heart attack.
562
00:24:48,362 --> 00:24:50,662
It was, I could,
I could feel him
563
00:24:50,739 --> 00:24:52,174
physically shaking.
I mean, it was...
564
00:24:52,199 --> 00:24:53,699
He’s in distress.
565
00:24:53,784 --> 00:24:56,084
It was all I could do
to get him to my truck.
566
00:24:56,202 --> 00:24:57,792
You want to go?
567
00:24:57,871 --> 00:24:59,080
Yeah. Let’s go.
568
00:24:59,205 --> 00:25:01,286
I can’t feel my hand.
569
00:25:01,375 --> 00:25:03,884
You, like, you can’t...
you can’t feel your hand?
570
00:25:03,961 --> 00:25:05,500
I can’t feel my hand.
571
00:25:08,089 --> 00:25:09,970
Do you have any chest pains?
572
00:25:10,049 --> 00:25:11,680
No, but it’s hard to keep...
573
00:25:11,759 --> 00:25:13,549
keep my breath, it’s...
574
00:25:13,636 --> 00:25:15,507
And my vision really
didn’t come back
575
00:25:15,596 --> 00:25:17,386
until I was off the ranch.
576
00:25:17,473 --> 00:25:20,564
Luckily, Bryant was there,
you know, to help me.
577
00:25:20,644 --> 00:25:23,193
And, uh, what had happened
578
00:25:23,271 --> 00:25:26,652
is my heart, uh,
was skipping beats.
579
00:25:27,608 --> 00:25:29,858
And I had had EKGs before this
580
00:25:29,944 --> 00:25:33,154
and I’ve never had
this issue before.
581
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,410
And the doctor explained to me
582
00:25:35,534 --> 00:25:38,953
that it, you know, there’s
nothing wrong with my heart,
583
00:25:39,078 --> 00:25:42,419
but it was an
electrical problem.
584
00:25:42,499 --> 00:25:45,378
- Really?
- And, yeah.
585
00:25:45,461 --> 00:25:48,260
Fortunately, you
know, he’s okay but,
586
00:25:48,380 --> 00:25:50,259
I mean, that’s, that’s
the strange thing is
587
00:25:50,339 --> 00:25:52,759
it affects people so
differently and people
588
00:25:52,884 --> 00:25:55,605
are tuned to whatever
energy or frequency, but...
589
00:25:55,721 --> 00:25:58,931
what I find, you know,
interesting and also disturbing
590
00:25:59,016 --> 00:26:02,266
is it occurred, like,
literally right when...
591
00:26:02,352 --> 00:26:04,811
we were hitting the
base of the mesa where
592
00:26:04,938 --> 00:26:07,897
we were trying to see what in
the world is inside that mesa.
593
00:26:07,982 --> 00:26:09,419
And that’s when
all hell broke loose.
594
00:26:09,442 --> 00:26:12,653
Which leads me to
think about this material
595
00:26:12,779 --> 00:26:14,950
that we pulled
out of one hole...
596
00:26:15,031 --> 00:26:18,791
while we were drilling
into the side of the mesa.
597
00:26:20,537 --> 00:26:22,432
Boy, that thing sounds
like it’s hitting something.
598
00:26:22,455 --> 00:26:23,865
Oh, what the heck is...?
599
00:26:25,084 --> 00:26:26,794
In an effort to explore
a possible tunnel
600
00:26:26,876 --> 00:26:28,747
or cave system beneath the mesa,
601
00:26:28,836 --> 00:26:31,717
we brought in drilling
expert Aaron Blunt,
602
00:26:31,798 --> 00:26:34,719
who attempted to drill
horizontally into the mesa.
603
00:26:34,801 --> 00:26:36,761
That’s when his
drill bit encountered
604
00:26:36,845 --> 00:26:39,214
something hard and
seemingly impenetrable.
605
00:26:40,307 --> 00:26:42,807
We’re coming up about
11 inches every ten feet.
606
00:26:42,893 --> 00:26:45,982
So, it sounds like you’re
describing kind of a V.
607
00:26:46,105 --> 00:26:48,825
It could even be...
maybe a dome.
608
00:26:51,652 --> 00:26:53,991
Not only was this hard
object dome-shaped...
609
00:26:54,113 --> 00:26:55,573
What is that?
610
00:26:55,655 --> 00:26:57,615
It also appeared
to be 400 feet wide
611
00:26:57,699 --> 00:26:59,578
- and made out of metal.
- Oh, my.
612
00:27:00,661 --> 00:27:02,513
What did you think it
was when you first saw it?
613
00:27:02,538 --> 00:27:04,998
I wondered if it was like
metal flakes or something.
614
00:27:05,124 --> 00:27:08,134
That’s exactly the
same impression I got.
615
00:27:08,210 --> 00:27:10,339
But the biggest surprise
came when we had
616
00:27:10,420 --> 00:27:12,339
a piece of the metal analyzed.
617
00:27:13,464 --> 00:27:15,295
There are material
findings coming out of that
618
00:27:15,384 --> 00:27:18,183
lateral drilling
exercise, surprising.
619
00:27:18,261 --> 00:27:19,932
Completely unexpected.
620
00:27:20,012 --> 00:27:21,262
I have to show you this.
621
00:27:22,223 --> 00:27:24,483
I want to put them
on the table so...
622
00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:26,599
I’m going to pass around
623
00:27:26,686 --> 00:27:28,767
a few of the samples
of which we have
624
00:27:28,855 --> 00:27:31,105
many, uh, into the hundreds
625
00:27:31,191 --> 00:27:32,691
that have been
taken out of that what,
626
00:27:32,776 --> 00:27:34,816
five or six-inch diameter hole?
627
00:27:34,903 --> 00:27:38,202
We’re talking about a
six-inch hole into the mesa.
628
00:27:38,281 --> 00:27:41,531
We made it back about 420 feet.
629
00:27:42,536 --> 00:27:45,455
These started coming
out as we were well into
630
00:27:45,538 --> 00:27:47,618
the hundreds of
feet into the mesa.
631
00:27:47,708 --> 00:27:49,827
But who knows how much of it
632
00:27:49,917 --> 00:27:52,208
never came back
out of the mountain.
633
00:27:52,336 --> 00:27:54,547
Erik, uh, reached out, uh,
634
00:27:54,673 --> 00:27:57,052
to the local university
here and had them do
635
00:27:57,134 --> 00:27:59,683
an analysis with a scanning
electron microscope and do...
636
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,520
precise elemental analysis
makeup of this material.
637
00:28:03,598 --> 00:28:06,058
The interesting thing about
the analysis that we got:
638
00:28:06,143 --> 00:28:08,603
tellurium is only on one side
639
00:28:08,729 --> 00:28:11,519
and europium, which
is on the other side.
640
00:28:11,606 --> 00:28:14,686
Now, tellurium and
europium are two
641
00:28:14,776 --> 00:28:17,895
of the most rare
materials on the planet.
642
00:28:18,029 --> 00:28:20,950
And it was fused.
643
00:28:21,074 --> 00:28:23,993
Can that happen naturally?
644
00:28:24,076 --> 00:28:26,037
If it were going to
be made on Earth,
645
00:28:26,121 --> 00:28:29,121
it would have to be done
deep under the crust,
646
00:28:29,249 --> 00:28:31,749
miles deep in a
geological process.
647
00:28:31,876 --> 00:28:34,836
There’s no volcanic
processes happening there
648
00:28:34,922 --> 00:28:37,471
on the ranch or
in the Uinta Basin
649
00:28:37,590 --> 00:28:39,931
that, uh, that we know of.
650
00:28:40,051 --> 00:28:42,261
The only other natural,
651
00:28:42,346 --> 00:28:46,016
uh, way to create this
would be an asteroid impact.
652
00:28:47,768 --> 00:28:51,228
But what we’re missing
from this asteroid is,
653
00:28:51,313 --> 00:28:54,272
uh, we’re missing nickel,
we’re missing iridium,
654
00:28:54,357 --> 00:28:55,688
we’re missing some other things
655
00:28:55,776 --> 00:28:58,395
that would be there
if it were an asteroid.
656
00:28:58,487 --> 00:28:59,777
This bears a lot of resemblance
657
00:28:59,863 --> 00:29:00,882
to things that were
made in a furnace.
658
00:29:00,905 --> 00:29:02,445
As if this is
659
00:29:02,531 --> 00:29:05,451
perhaps an engineered material.
660
00:29:05,535 --> 00:29:07,444
You remember the
space shuttle tiles
661
00:29:07,537 --> 00:29:09,787
that protected it
from heat on reentry?
662
00:29:09,873 --> 00:29:13,133
This material makeup is
very similar to that ceramic.
663
00:29:13,210 --> 00:29:16,920
- Wow.
- So, Governor Herbert, let me tell you,
664
00:29:17,005 --> 00:29:19,295
we did another,
probably the biggest,
665
00:29:19,383 --> 00:29:21,512
most complicated, most
expensive experiment
666
00:29:21,634 --> 00:29:24,144
that, uh, has ever
been done at the ranch.
667
00:29:33,980 --> 00:29:35,730
We had three laser systems,
668
00:29:35,816 --> 00:29:38,276
and we placed them
in a triangular position
669
00:29:38,359 --> 00:29:41,910
pointed up at the anomaly
in the sky over the ranch.
670
00:29:41,989 --> 00:29:43,818
And then we also had
671
00:29:43,949 --> 00:29:45,909
a very large rocket system
672
00:29:45,992 --> 00:29:47,833
uh, so that we
could put a payload
673
00:29:47,952 --> 00:29:50,252
into the anomaly
and have it linger
674
00:29:50,329 --> 00:29:52,500
as the recovery system
brought it back down
675
00:29:52,624 --> 00:29:55,634
with multiple
instruments. Now...
676
00:29:55,711 --> 00:29:58,090
we get ready to
do the launch and...
677
00:29:58,171 --> 00:30:00,250
Brandon, tell them what
happened when we counted down
678
00:30:00,298 --> 00:30:02,548
- and you pushed the button.
- The second that I pushed
679
00:30:02,675 --> 00:30:06,006
the button, it literally
went up and exploded.
680
00:30:07,431 --> 00:30:09,270
Push and hold.
681
00:30:14,186 --> 00:30:16,356
Oh!
682
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,529
How high did it
get... off the ground?
683
00:30:18,607 --> 00:30:19,817
Maybe 30 feet?
684
00:30:19,901 --> 00:30:23,030
- So it immediately blew up?
- Yeah.
685
00:30:23,154 --> 00:30:25,048
Has this ever happened
before? Any of those rockets?
686
00:30:25,073 --> 00:30:26,992
They’ve never had
one fail like that before.
687
00:30:27,075 --> 00:30:30,615
So, it’s like somebody was
trying to keep us from getting
688
00:30:30,703 --> 00:30:33,374
the instruments into the
place we want to put it.
689
00:30:34,583 --> 00:30:38,883
So thank heavens we were
ready with other rockets.
690
00:30:39,003 --> 00:30:41,054
- Yes.
- To continue the experiment.
691
00:30:41,131 --> 00:30:43,050
Do you have that second launch?
692
00:30:43,133 --> 00:30:46,093
So this is, in fact, the
footage of that launch,
693
00:30:46,219 --> 00:30:49,848
as seen by one of our
surveillance cameras.
694
00:30:54,810 --> 00:30:57,361
This takes place
at exactly the place
695
00:30:57,439 --> 00:30:59,269
where we’ve had so many
unusual things happen.
696
00:30:59,398 --> 00:31:01,398
- Is that the triangle?
- That is the triangle.
697
00:31:01,484 --> 00:31:03,075
Yes.
698
00:31:03,153 --> 00:31:05,492
Erik was in the command center
699
00:31:05,571 --> 00:31:07,662
and saw something.
700
00:31:07,740 --> 00:31:09,830
Hey, Travis, you copy?
701
00:31:09,910 --> 00:31:11,950
Yeah, Erik, go ahead.
702
00:31:12,078 --> 00:31:14,409
If Brandon is nearby, can
you bring him in real quick?
703
00:31:15,874 --> 00:31:17,423
We’ll be right there.
704
00:31:17,500 --> 00:31:20,171
Travis, you’ve got to see this.
705
00:31:20,252 --> 00:31:22,012
- Okay.
- Well, there’s the lasers.
706
00:31:22,088 --> 00:31:24,759
- Yeah, I’m doing instant playback. You see this?
- Oh! Yeah.
707
00:31:26,468 --> 00:31:29,097
- Wow.
- What the crap is that?
708
00:31:29,221 --> 00:31:32,931
This is through the lens
of a camera that is tasked
709
00:31:33,016 --> 00:31:34,806
with surveying the skies.
710
00:31:35,935 --> 00:31:38,855
And I’ll draw your attention
to this part of the screen.
711
00:31:40,022 --> 00:31:43,363
Clearly we have an object.
Something luminous moving
712
00:31:43,442 --> 00:31:47,532
towards the apex of that
configuration of lasers being
713
00:31:47,614 --> 00:31:49,743
broadcast upward
from the triangle.
714
00:31:49,825 --> 00:31:53,295
And it just, I mean,
it just goes away.
715
00:31:53,412 --> 00:31:55,041
- Yeah.
- Wow.
716
00:31:55,122 --> 00:31:58,582
It’s important to note
that during this day,
717
00:31:58,666 --> 00:32:01,416
the entire airspace
718
00:32:01,502 --> 00:32:04,593
not only above the ranch,
but in the general area
719
00:32:04,673 --> 00:32:07,262
within the Uinta
Basin was restricted.
720
00:32:07,342 --> 00:32:09,261
Clearly, there’s
no strobe on this,
721
00:32:09,344 --> 00:32:12,144
but beyond that, the aircraft
transponder data receiver
722
00:32:12,263 --> 00:32:15,354
that we have at the
ranch indicated no aircraft
723
00:32:15,474 --> 00:32:17,434
at that location.
724
00:32:17,519 --> 00:32:20,229
It’s unexplained.
What is the theory
725
00:32:20,313 --> 00:32:22,573
of what the
explanation could be?
726
00:32:22,648 --> 00:32:24,479
Well, what if
some of the stories
727
00:32:24,608 --> 00:32:28,278
that we keep hearing about,
uh, from the ancient Native tribes,
728
00:32:28,363 --> 00:32:30,742
in petroglyphs that...
From all different kinds of
729
00:32:30,824 --> 00:32:32,663
folks that have been
to the ranch, that there’s
730
00:32:32,741 --> 00:32:35,791
a portal access on the ranch.
731
00:32:35,871 --> 00:32:39,250
What if that’s true? It
could be what we just saw!
732
00:32:40,666 --> 00:32:43,957
This may be a
particular point of interest
733
00:32:44,045 --> 00:32:47,464
for a wormhole or a
stargate, some type
734
00:32:47,548 --> 00:32:49,469
of interstellar interaction?
735
00:32:49,550 --> 00:32:52,971
One of the stories that’s
been told from the Sherman
736
00:32:53,054 --> 00:32:55,683
and Bigelow era that caught
the attention of the DIA...
737
00:32:55,807 --> 00:32:57,267
The Defense
Intelligence Agency...
738
00:32:57,349 --> 00:32:59,190
Was about a hole in the sky.
739
00:32:59,269 --> 00:33:00,979
Call it a portal.
740
00:33:02,355 --> 00:33:04,855
The rancher would see
these things open up,
741
00:33:04,941 --> 00:33:07,111
it’s dusk here, it’s
afternoon over there.
742
00:33:07,193 --> 00:33:08,653
It’s like you’re looking in
743
00:33:08,737 --> 00:33:10,946
through a hole in the
sky to another place.
744
00:33:12,490 --> 00:33:14,621
And he would report
things coming in and out.
745
00:33:14,701 --> 00:33:18,201
Uh, craft coming in and out
from that reality to this reality.
746
00:33:19,955 --> 00:33:22,625
Well, you just referenced
an anecdotal experience,
747
00:33:22,709 --> 00:33:25,378
one from a credible scientist,
748
00:33:25,461 --> 00:33:28,211
but no visual evidence
to accompany that.
749
00:33:28,339 --> 00:33:31,299
Here we have
potential visual evidence
750
00:33:31,384 --> 00:33:34,723
of some type of
interstellar activity
751
00:33:34,846 --> 00:33:38,215
focused on the ranch,
some type of interaction
752
00:33:38,307 --> 00:33:41,387
that is not explained by
any conventional means.
753
00:33:41,478 --> 00:33:42,728
Never seen it before.
754
00:33:42,811 --> 00:33:45,572
I-I’ve never seen
anything like it before.
755
00:33:47,317 --> 00:33:49,527
And, Brandon, this next
one, you have yet to see
756
00:33:49,611 --> 00:33:51,320
because it just happened to us.
757
00:33:51,403 --> 00:33:54,743
- Really?
- Yeah, it is so bizarre.
758
00:33:54,865 --> 00:33:57,615
I think it would be a good idea
to get everyone’s eyes on this.
759
00:33:57,743 --> 00:33:59,913
- Absolutely.
- Please, let’s do.
760
00:34:01,288 --> 00:34:02,709
This is a
three-dimensional model
761
00:34:02,790 --> 00:34:05,921
of Pete Kelsey’s
recent survey work.
762
00:34:06,001 --> 00:34:09,342
Pete scanned the entire
mesa, and look at this structure.
763
00:34:11,215 --> 00:34:14,755
Wow. Incredible.
764
00:34:14,885 --> 00:34:16,755
Wow!
765
00:34:18,097 --> 00:34:20,927
This looks like a solid
structure in the sky.
766
00:34:21,059 --> 00:34:22,728
Yes.
767
00:34:22,811 --> 00:34:25,440
This object, whatever it is,
768
00:34:25,563 --> 00:34:27,773
uh, it’s really fascinating.
769
00:34:27,898 --> 00:34:30,778
What are we looking at?
We don’t know at this point.
770
00:34:30,860 --> 00:34:33,780
Well, we need to
talk about the reality
771
00:34:33,862 --> 00:34:36,913
of what we’re dealing
with in this investigation.
772
00:34:36,992 --> 00:34:40,751
Based on all of these
combined events,
773
00:34:40,829 --> 00:34:42,958
how do we move forward?
774
00:34:49,795 --> 00:34:52,965
Based on all of these
combined events,
775
00:34:53,048 --> 00:34:57,298
all of this data, if we are
truly being led by the data,
776
00:34:57,387 --> 00:35:02,387
and what we have documented,
how do we move forward?
777
00:35:02,474 --> 00:35:07,304
What are our next steps as a
team here at Skinwalker Ranch?
778
00:35:07,438 --> 00:35:11,438
Well, what we can say is
perhaps one of the most
779
00:35:11,525 --> 00:35:14,896
amazing treasures
might be under that mesa,
780
00:35:14,987 --> 00:35:17,407
but it might also
be amazingly fragile.
781
00:35:17,489 --> 00:35:21,239
And we don’t want to
destroy whatever it is,
782
00:35:21,327 --> 00:35:24,117
by willy-nilly
going in and-and...
783
00:35:24,204 --> 00:35:27,074
- and stomping our feet around.
- Yeah, and exactly
784
00:35:27,166 --> 00:35:29,836
as Travis has explained,
we should probably take
785
00:35:29,918 --> 00:35:32,838
a forensic approach to
look at this as a biopsy.
786
00:35:32,963 --> 00:35:35,934
Uh, you know, we
conduct the research, uh...
787
00:35:36,009 --> 00:35:38,429
very carefully, because
we don’t want to destroy
788
00:35:38,510 --> 00:35:41,510
the very thing we are
attempting to get eyes on.
789
00:35:41,597 --> 00:35:43,978
So obviously we can’t come in
790
00:35:44,059 --> 00:35:46,599
recklessly and blast the side
791
00:35:46,686 --> 00:35:48,186
- of the mesa.
- Absolutely. - Yeah.
792
00:35:48,271 --> 00:35:49,860
Whatever we do must be
793
00:35:49,981 --> 00:35:52,860
surgical, well-planned
and precise.
794
00:35:52,942 --> 00:35:55,612
Is there any way
795
00:35:55,695 --> 00:35:57,655
to discover what’s
inside the mesa,
796
00:35:57,739 --> 00:35:59,619
short of excavation?
797
00:35:59,699 --> 00:36:01,829
Is there some kind of sonar,
798
00:36:01,909 --> 00:36:04,000
microimaging that we can,
799
00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:06,119
you can actually
X-ray the mountain?
800
00:36:06,206 --> 00:36:08,786
We have used, uh,
ground-penetrating radar
801
00:36:08,875 --> 00:36:11,494
to the best of our
ability right now.
802
00:36:11,585 --> 00:36:15,295
Uh, we are pursuing some,
uh, space capabilities that
803
00:36:15,382 --> 00:36:18,132
are just now, new
technologies coming online.
804
00:36:18,217 --> 00:36:20,047
Maybe in the next year or so.
805
00:36:20,135 --> 00:36:23,556
You know, there’s another
thing that we need to follow up on.
806
00:36:23,639 --> 00:36:26,679
We have discovered there
is some sort of anomaly
807
00:36:26,768 --> 00:36:29,057
over the ranch in
a certain location
808
00:36:29,144 --> 00:36:31,554
that is between
3,000 and 5,000 feet
809
00:36:31,648 --> 00:36:34,318
in altitude above the triangle.
810
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,490
If this is a...
atmospheric anomaly
811
00:36:36,568 --> 00:36:38,528
or a gravitational anomaly,
812
00:36:38,612 --> 00:36:41,873
- I think we just got to follow up on this data.
- Absolutely.
813
00:36:41,949 --> 00:36:45,159
I think everyone would
agree that we move forward
814
00:36:45,244 --> 00:36:48,465
having a multidisciplinary,
diverse approach
815
00:36:48,581 --> 00:36:51,880
to really tackling this
problem set and taking the data
816
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,960
that drives us in
the right direction
817
00:36:56,088 --> 00:36:59,088
to uncover the secret
of what lies on this ranch,
818
00:36:59,175 --> 00:37:01,545
both above and below.
819
00:37:01,635 --> 00:37:04,385
Well, I mean, here’s
the significance for me.
820
00:37:04,472 --> 00:37:06,601
You guys set up an experiment
821
00:37:06,724 --> 00:37:09,144
where you have
witnesses there gathered
822
00:37:09,268 --> 00:37:10,898
to conduct this experiment
823
00:37:10,978 --> 00:37:12,559
and hopefully
generate a response.
824
00:37:12,646 --> 00:37:14,166
You don’t know what
the response is gonna be.
825
00:37:14,190 --> 00:37:15,940
You don’t know if
there will be a response.
826
00:37:16,067 --> 00:37:17,856
And you get a response
and you document it.
827
00:37:17,943 --> 00:37:22,454
It appears we are
triggering contact...
828
00:37:23,490 --> 00:37:26,081
in some way,
shape or form and...
829
00:37:26,161 --> 00:37:28,791
it is manifesting itself
830
00:37:28,913 --> 00:37:31,833
above the ranch in
a very profound way.
831
00:37:31,958 --> 00:37:34,878
We’re dealing with forces.
832
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,960
We’re dealing with phenomena
833
00:37:38,088 --> 00:37:40,929
that redefines not only
834
00:37:41,009 --> 00:37:44,429
our vision of reality but
potentially even history itself.
835
00:37:46,054 --> 00:37:48,425
Is Skinwalker Ranch really
836
00:37:48,516 --> 00:37:51,635
at the center of a lot
of interesting things
837
00:37:51,769 --> 00:37:53,980
- that are now being brought forward?
- Yes, but...
838
00:37:54,105 --> 00:37:56,815
it doesn’t seem to be
restricted just to Utah.
839
00:37:56,900 --> 00:37:58,989
- This is country-wide, worldwide?
- Yeah.
840
00:37:59,068 --> 00:38:01,447
Well, for the last four years,
841
00:38:01,528 --> 00:38:03,659
the whole world has
been on a UFO binge.
842
00:38:03,739 --> 00:38:06,280
We’ve had major media
coverage taking it seriously
843
00:38:06,367 --> 00:38:07,786
for the first time maybe ever.
844
00:38:07,869 --> 00:38:09,829
Congress has dug in.
845
00:38:09,954 --> 00:38:12,083
They want to fund a
permanent investigation.
846
00:38:12,164 --> 00:38:13,965
A program that would
look into these things.
847
00:38:14,041 --> 00:38:16,001
And all of this stuff
is traced directly
848
00:38:16,126 --> 00:38:17,336
back to Skinwalker Ranch.
849
00:38:17,420 --> 00:38:20,170
If not for a DIA scientist
850
00:38:20,255 --> 00:38:21,876
visiting the property back
851
00:38:22,007 --> 00:38:24,338
in 2007 and having
an experience,
852
00:38:24,469 --> 00:38:26,509
there would not have
been an AAWSAP program,
853
00:38:26,637 --> 00:38:28,807
there would not have
been an AATIP program,
854
00:38:28,889 --> 00:38:30,929
and the whole world would
not be on this UFO binge
855
00:38:31,016 --> 00:38:33,204
that it’s on right now. We don’t
know where it’s gonna lead,
856
00:38:33,228 --> 00:38:35,228
but at least we’ve dragged
it out of the dark ages
857
00:38:35,355 --> 00:38:37,945
and made this topic a
little more respectable
858
00:38:38,023 --> 00:38:41,193
for Congress, for media,
for scientists to investigate.
859
00:38:41,277 --> 00:38:43,277
It all stems back to the ranch.
860
00:38:43,362 --> 00:38:45,612
Well, Brandon, let me just
say, you know, I was here
861
00:38:45,697 --> 00:38:48,617
at the beginning 12
weeks ago, and now I’m...
862
00:38:48,701 --> 00:38:50,054
I’ve returned and
you’re reporting.
863
00:38:50,077 --> 00:38:51,998
And all I can say is
864
00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:54,039
the phenomena is
just overwhelming.
865
00:38:55,041 --> 00:38:56,670
I’m very excited
about the next chapter.
866
00:38:56,751 --> 00:38:59,130
Uh, I think you’ve got momentum,
867
00:38:59,211 --> 00:39:01,012
uh, I again like Dr. Taylor
868
00:39:01,088 --> 00:39:03,378
talking about this should
be a scalpeled approach.
869
00:39:03,465 --> 00:39:05,675
Erik, you’ve mentioned
how we’ve got to be careful
870
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,889
about what we’re doing
here so we don’t damage
871
00:39:08,012 --> 00:39:11,222
- the information we’ll find.
- Very much so.
872
00:39:11,306 --> 00:39:14,516
You guys have made breakthroughs
on so many different, uh, bases,
873
00:39:14,601 --> 00:39:16,731
and, uh, I can’t wait to
see what comes next.
874
00:39:16,813 --> 00:39:19,443
Well, thank you, Governor,
for your time and attention.
875
00:39:19,565 --> 00:39:22,565
- And thank you, George, for joining us.
- Glad to be here.
876
00:39:22,652 --> 00:39:26,572
I want to thank everyone at
this table for your sacrifice,
877
00:39:26,697 --> 00:39:28,777
for your professionalism,
878
00:39:28,907 --> 00:39:32,327
for your talents,
your expertise.
879
00:39:32,411 --> 00:39:36,751
We are, uh, opening new
doors, new paths to explore.
880
00:39:36,875 --> 00:39:39,635
I look forward to
the path ahead.
881
00:39:39,751 --> 00:39:41,711
And, uh, we’ll be in touch
882
00:39:41,795 --> 00:39:43,585
with you regarding next steps.
883
00:39:43,672 --> 00:39:45,052
- Thank you.
- All right.
884
00:39:45,132 --> 00:39:47,262
- Thanks, Brandon.
- Thank you.
885
00:39:47,342 --> 00:39:49,262
Thank you, Governor.
886
00:39:49,344 --> 00:39:50,945
- George. Yeah, yeah.
- Good to meet you.
887
00:39:53,099 --> 00:39:56,478
We’ve learned a lot of things
through our work this year.
888
00:39:56,603 --> 00:39:58,193
Piece by piece,
889
00:39:58,271 --> 00:40:01,021
we are continuing to
assemble this puzzle,
890
00:40:01,106 --> 00:40:04,936
showing us that not only is
the ranch phenomenology real,
891
00:40:05,027 --> 00:40:10,068
but we seem to be
interactively engaging it.
892
00:40:10,157 --> 00:40:13,038
I’m way past the
point of no return.
893
00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:14,789
I’ve had too many
things happen to me
894
00:40:14,871 --> 00:40:16,960
on the ranch not to continue.
895
00:40:17,039 --> 00:40:19,920
It seems like the
stakes have risen,
896
00:40:20,001 --> 00:40:23,420
so at this point we
have to push forward.
897
00:40:23,503 --> 00:40:25,804
We have to get answers.
898
00:40:27,007 --> 00:40:29,427
I’ve seen things today that
I never thought I would see
899
00:40:29,510 --> 00:40:32,889
and haven’t seen
before, but I’d like to think
900
00:40:32,972 --> 00:40:35,061
that we can figure
it out, I hope we can.
901
00:40:35,141 --> 00:40:36,811
Here’s the thing for sure:
902
00:40:36,893 --> 00:40:39,063
you aren’t going to
figure it out if you don’t try.
903
00:40:40,563 --> 00:40:42,652
As we wrap up this
year’s investigation
904
00:40:42,731 --> 00:40:44,282
at Skinwalker Ranch,
905
00:40:44,358 --> 00:40:46,318
we all feel like we’re getting
906
00:40:46,402 --> 00:40:48,992
much closer to finding some
real answers about this place.
907
00:40:49,072 --> 00:40:51,952
I mean, when I first
came to the ranch,
908
00:40:52,032 --> 00:40:53,702
I had never even seen a UAP.
909
00:40:53,826 --> 00:40:56,036
We got something, hold on.
910
00:40:56,161 --> 00:40:57,306
- Look, look, look.
- What is that?
911
00:40:57,329 --> 00:40:58,579
Holy!
912
00:40:58,664 --> 00:41:00,255
But we’ve witnessed
and documented
913
00:41:00,333 --> 00:41:01,963
phenomena up in the sky...
914
00:41:02,043 --> 00:41:03,672
What the hell is
that in the sky?
915
00:41:03,795 --> 00:41:05,385
That thing is big and spherical!
916
00:41:05,505 --> 00:41:07,974
That has changed
my entire outlook
917
00:41:08,048 --> 00:41:09,429
on what I thought was possible.
918
00:41:09,509 --> 00:41:11,179
And now...
919
00:41:11,260 --> 00:41:13,300
after encountering a
dome-shaped metal object
920
00:41:13,387 --> 00:41:14,967
deep inside the mesa,
921
00:41:15,056 --> 00:41:17,425
who knows what it
could ultimately reveal.
922
00:41:17,516 --> 00:41:18,847
Oh, my.
923
00:41:18,976 --> 00:41:20,637
We owe it to ourselves
924
00:41:20,728 --> 00:41:24,518
and the entire world to figure
out the truth behind this ranch.
925
00:41:24,606 --> 00:41:28,856
It takes courage to
confront these topics.
926
00:41:29,862 --> 00:41:33,121
I believe as we
brave that territory,
927
00:41:33,199 --> 00:41:36,199
as we have the
courage to delve deeper,
928
00:41:36,284 --> 00:41:40,864
both literally and figuratively
into Skinwalker Ranch,
929
00:41:40,956 --> 00:41:43,376
we’re going to
find that not only
930
00:41:43,501 --> 00:41:45,380
will we come to an understanding
931
00:41:45,460 --> 00:41:49,010
of the dark forces that
we’re interacting with,
932
00:41:49,090 --> 00:41:53,300
but also the nature of
our world, and our reality.
933
00:41:53,385 --> 00:41:56,175
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