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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,590 --> 00:00:08,009 [suspenseful music] 2 00:00:36,621 --> 00:00:38,247 [Austin] I'm a little nervous... 3 00:00:40,333 --> 00:00:42,126 thinking about my parents' story. 4 00:00:45,630 --> 00:00:49,008 It'll be the first time I would-- I'd been on that section of Rio Grande 5 00:00:49,217 --> 00:00:50,092 where my parents crossed... 6 00:00:51,636 --> 00:00:52,512 in my life. 7 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:53,471 First time ever. 8 00:00:55,223 --> 00:00:57,517 And I think it's gonna connect 9 00:00:57,725 --> 00:01:01,062 everything really, really well for me. 10 00:01:04,649 --> 00:01:07,193 [Austin] I've been uh, river-guiding here on the Rio Grande 11 00:01:07,401 --> 00:01:09,111 for the past six years. 12 00:01:10,404 --> 00:01:12,615 I want people to know what's out here. 13 00:01:14,367 --> 00:01:16,285 I want the love to be shared. 14 00:01:18,663 --> 00:01:22,124 This is wilderness as wild as it gets. 15 00:01:31,300 --> 00:01:32,510 But people don't like hearing that. 16 00:01:35,763 --> 00:01:37,390 People like hearing about a wall. 17 00:01:41,394 --> 00:01:43,729 Rather than talking about putting up a fence, 18 00:01:43,938 --> 00:01:46,065 why don't we work out some recognition 19 00:01:46,274 --> 00:01:47,567 of our mutual problems-- 20 00:01:47,775 --> 00:01:49,569 Make it possible for them to come here legally 21 00:01:49,777 --> 00:01:52,613 with a work permit, and open the border both ways. 22 00:01:53,656 --> 00:01:57,493 We are nation of immigrants, but we are also a nation of law. 23 00:01:59,370 --> 00:02:01,581 [Bill Clinton] That's why our administration has moved aggressively 24 00:02:01,789 --> 00:02:03,249 to secure our borders more. 25 00:02:05,710 --> 00:02:09,755 Ours' is a nation of immigrants, we're also a nation of law. 26 00:02:10,881 --> 00:02:13,342 [George W. bush] We have a responsibility to secure our borders. 27 00:02:14,510 --> 00:02:16,429 President Bush, he signed a bill today 28 00:02:16,637 --> 00:02:19,223 authorizing the construction of a fence 29 00:02:19,432 --> 00:02:21,100 along the border with Mexico. 30 00:02:21,309 --> 00:02:24,270 This fence would be 700 miles long. 31 00:02:24,478 --> 00:02:26,564 [upbeat music] 32 00:02:31,319 --> 00:02:34,280 [Barack Obama] I think the American people, they appreciate 33 00:02:34,488 --> 00:02:38,284 and believe in immigration. But they can't have a situation where you just have 34 00:02:38,492 --> 00:02:41,287 half a million people pouring over the border 35 00:02:41,495 --> 00:02:44,373 without any kind of mechanism to control it. 36 00:02:48,753 --> 00:02:50,338 Complete the danged fence. 37 00:02:50,546 --> 00:02:52,173 It'll work this time. 38 00:02:55,593 --> 00:02:58,804 [Hilary Clinton] Look, I voted uh, numerous times when I was a senator 39 00:02:59,013 --> 00:03:02,308 to spend money to build a barrier 40 00:03:02,516 --> 00:03:05,645 to try to prevent um, illegal immigrants 41 00:03:05,853 --> 00:03:06,604 from coming in. 42 00:03:11,317 --> 00:03:15,196 [Donald Trump] On day one, we will begin working 43 00:03:15,404 --> 00:03:19,116 on an impenetrable, physical, tall, 44 00:03:19,325 --> 00:03:20,660 powerful, beautiful 45 00:03:20,868 --> 00:03:23,454 southern-border wall. 46 00:03:23,663 --> 00:03:24,497 [applause and cheering] 47 00:03:24,705 --> 00:03:26,832 [upbeat music] 48 00:03:28,793 --> 00:03:30,503 [crowd chanting] Build that wall! 49 00:03:30,711 --> 00:03:31,671 Build that wall! 50 00:03:31,879 --> 00:03:32,672 Build that wall! 51 00:03:33,798 --> 00:03:35,091 Build that wall! 52 00:03:35,299 --> 00:03:36,592 Build that wall! 53 00:03:36,801 --> 00:03:38,177 Build that wall! 54 00:03:38,386 --> 00:03:39,804 [Donald trump] Build that wall! 55 00:03:40,012 --> 00:03:41,764 Build that wall! 56 00:04:05,830 --> 00:04:09,709 [Ben] This whole idea got started a few months ago. 57 00:04:09,917 --> 00:04:12,294 I was working' for some wildlife biologists 58 00:04:12,503 --> 00:04:13,879 out in West Texas. 59 00:04:14,088 --> 00:04:21,554 And they were describing to me how a physical wall 60 00:04:21,762 --> 00:04:24,390 would have some really serious impact 61 00:04:24,598 --> 00:04:27,268 to a lot of wildlife species along the Rio Grande. 62 00:04:29,353 --> 00:04:33,149 And it was something that-- That I never really thought about, 63 00:04:33,357 --> 00:04:37,987 the actual physical entity of a wall. 64 00:04:39,864 --> 00:04:42,700 And I guess I just wanted to-- to learn more about it. 65 00:04:48,831 --> 00:04:49,749 [Jay] Um, uh-- 66 00:04:49,957 --> 00:04:50,791 [laughing] 67 00:04:52,334 --> 00:04:53,919 [Ben] On a journey like this, you're only as good 68 00:04:54,128 --> 00:04:55,504 as the team that you have. 69 00:04:55,713 --> 00:04:57,882 And this group is amazing. 70 00:04:58,090 --> 00:05:00,426 [Austin] Like that and mess this up. 71 00:05:00,634 --> 00:05:03,888 [Ben] So you-- with horses, you don't have to replace pedals. 72 00:05:04,096 --> 00:05:05,848 Austin Alvarado is a river guide. 73 00:05:06,056 --> 00:05:07,808 He knows the river in West Texas 74 00:05:08,017 --> 00:05:09,435 like the back of his hand. 75 00:05:11,771 --> 00:05:13,314 Heather is an ornithologist. 76 00:05:13,522 --> 00:05:16,442 She studies birds and butterflies along the Rio, 77 00:05:16,650 --> 00:05:20,613 and her knowledge of just the biodiversity at large 78 00:05:20,821 --> 00:05:22,615 is gonna be really important for the trip. 79 00:05:22,823 --> 00:05:24,742 Uh, one second. Yeah. 80 00:05:24,950 --> 00:05:27,620 [Ben] Filipe DeAndrade, an incredible film maker. 81 00:05:27,828 --> 00:05:32,625 I expected like-- Yeah, like the mariachi band and great entourage. 82 00:05:32,833 --> 00:05:35,419 Wooh, what a start! And it is just like, "Alright, pull up next 83 00:05:35,628 --> 00:05:37,838 -to the drum trucks, we're doing this thing." -Is he alright? 84 00:05:38,047 --> 00:05:42,843 [Ben] Jay Kleberg, he works for Texas Parks and Wildlife Foundation. 85 00:05:43,052 --> 00:05:45,888 Conservation is his thing. 86 00:05:46,931 --> 00:05:49,475 [Ben] The wall is gonna be built through a lot of places 87 00:05:49,683 --> 00:05:51,435 that are very near and dear to his heart. 88 00:05:52,937 --> 00:05:54,563 [Chrissy] She may be walking by the time you get back. 89 00:05:54,772 --> 00:05:55,856 -[Jay] Oh, that's not a cool thing. -[Chrissy] Yeah. 90 00:05:56,065 --> 00:05:57,316 [laughing] 91 00:05:57,525 --> 00:05:58,484 [Jay] You sure I can't just strap her? 92 00:05:58,692 --> 00:06:00,486 I can put her in the Camelback. 93 00:06:00,694 --> 00:06:03,280 -No! -No, I put a little helmet on her with a-- 94 00:06:03,489 --> 00:06:04,990 [Chrissy] A little basket in the front of your bike. 95 00:06:05,199 --> 00:06:06,826 -Yeah, with goggles. -[daughter] Yeah, yeah, yeah. 96 00:06:07,034 --> 00:06:08,410 [Chrissy chuckling] 97 00:06:09,453 --> 00:06:11,622 [Ben] Like this thing originated in Colorado 98 00:06:11,831 --> 00:06:15,000 and by the time it hits here, it's tiny, minuscule, 99 00:06:15,209 --> 00:06:18,337 and then the United States takes pretty much all of it. 100 00:06:19,380 --> 00:06:23,300 So we can't even float down the uh, the river right now, 101 00:06:23,509 --> 00:06:26,512 that's why we're taking bikes which I'm not that big a fan of, 102 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,891 but you know, looking forward to the horror stretch. 103 00:06:31,100 --> 00:06:33,769 -[photographer] Alright, get in there, nice and tight. -[Austin] Delighted. 104 00:06:37,147 --> 00:06:38,691 -[Photographer] Alright, I think that probably got it. -Alright. 105 00:06:38,899 --> 00:06:39,942 -Nailed it. -Yeah. 106 00:06:40,150 --> 00:06:41,610 What's the last time you rode a bike, Filipe? 107 00:06:42,611 --> 00:06:43,696 -[Filipe] Me? -Yeah. 108 00:06:43,904 --> 00:06:45,865 -This morning. -This morning. 109 00:06:46,073 --> 00:06:48,659 I just hopped off. Now I'm hopping' back on again. 110 00:06:48,868 --> 00:06:50,369 Alright, let's go make some bad decisions. 111 00:06:50,578 --> 00:06:51,787 -[Ben] Hell, yeah! -[Filipe] Let's go with it. 112 00:06:51,996 --> 00:06:53,414 Arrr! 113 00:06:56,667 --> 00:06:59,003 [background music] 114 00:07:02,548 --> 00:07:05,301 [Ben] We are embarking on a 1,200-mile journey 115 00:07:05,509 --> 00:07:07,469 from El Paso to the Gulf of Mexico. 116 00:07:11,473 --> 00:07:13,809 [Ben] Riding bicycles where there isn't enough water. 117 00:07:15,102 --> 00:07:17,646 [Ben] Taking' my mustangs through the Big Bend. 118 00:07:19,690 --> 00:07:21,567 And canoeing down the Rio Grande. 119 00:07:26,780 --> 00:07:29,825 [Ben] Tr yin' to understand where exactly a wall would go 120 00:07:31,201 --> 00:07:32,703 and what effects it would have. 121 00:07:32,912 --> 00:07:35,998 I dream I'm in 122 00:07:36,206 --> 00:07:38,417 Wait, wait, wait, time out. Serious question. 123 00:07:42,004 --> 00:07:44,924 There is going' to be doors in this potential wall. 124 00:07:45,132 --> 00:07:47,760 Are there gonna be doors like this to access the Rio Grande? 125 00:07:47,968 --> 00:07:50,179 Like you'll have to get a key or something to acc-- No. 126 00:07:50,387 --> 00:07:53,557 No, and where there are access points like this, we'll have agents. 127 00:07:53,766 --> 00:07:55,225 And they'll have access to the gates. 128 00:07:55,476 --> 00:07:57,394 So you might not be able to get access to the 129 00:07:57,603 --> 00:07:59,438 Rio Grande area without Border Patrol. 130 00:07:59,647 --> 00:08:00,314 Okay. 131 00:08:00,522 --> 00:08:03,067 So after this, you're still technically in the United States. 132 00:08:03,275 --> 00:08:04,902 Okay, okay. 133 00:08:07,112 --> 00:08:08,072 [Austin] Wow! 134 00:08:20,584 --> 00:08:22,878 [Filipe] Wait, so we are about to enter Mexico right now? 135 00:08:24,171 --> 00:08:27,675 [Ben] No, we're just gonna ride on the Mexico side of the wall, 136 00:08:27,883 --> 00:08:29,218 but on the US. 137 00:08:30,260 --> 00:08:31,595 [Heather] No-man zone. 138 00:08:34,098 --> 00:08:36,433 [Heather] It's wild being along the wall 139 00:08:36,642 --> 00:08:40,020 to have this massive 25-foot barrier. 140 00:08:41,021 --> 00:08:44,692 It just feels so separate. 141 00:08:49,905 --> 00:08:54,034 [Jay] While I was working in El Paso, they constructed the wall, 142 00:08:54,243 --> 00:08:55,828 and they did it in like 12 months. 143 00:08:56,036 --> 00:08:58,163 From my perspective, it wasn't a real 144 00:08:58,372 --> 00:09:02,501 like uh, cry against the construction 145 00:09:02,710 --> 00:09:03,752 of that fence at the time. 146 00:09:04,878 --> 00:09:07,881 But then since then |-- there have been people elected 147 00:09:08,090 --> 00:09:09,550 like congressman O'Rourke 148 00:09:09,758 --> 00:09:13,762 who was against the construction of a-- a fence. 149 00:09:13,971 --> 00:09:15,097 [Beto] I-- I don't think a lot of people 150 00:09:15,305 --> 00:09:17,057 in the interior of the US understand 151 00:09:17,266 --> 00:09:19,018 that the wall will not literally be built 152 00:09:19,226 --> 00:09:21,186 at the border, at the international boundary line. 153 00:09:21,395 --> 00:09:23,897 It'll be built well within here, it's 100 yards. 154 00:09:24,106 --> 00:09:27,693 Other places it's-- it's a mile, 2 miles uh, into the interior 155 00:09:27,901 --> 00:09:31,030 and everywhere it's gonna look as ugly as this or uglier. 156 00:09:32,072 --> 00:09:36,535 [Beto] El Paso for the last 20 years has been either the safest, 157 00:09:36,744 --> 00:09:40,080 the second-safest or the third-safest city in America, 158 00:09:40,289 --> 00:09:43,584 which is really remarkable, because it is at complete odds with the rhetoric 159 00:09:43,792 --> 00:09:45,252 about the border. 160 00:09:47,921 --> 00:09:50,716 [Beto] Of the 2,000 miles of the US-Mexico border, 161 00:09:50,924 --> 00:09:52,926 I believe a little over 600 miles 162 00:09:53,135 --> 00:09:57,097 have fences, walls, physical barriers. 163 00:09:57,306 --> 00:10:00,642 [background music] 164 00:10:05,147 --> 00:10:09,568 [Beto] And that began after the 2006 Secure Fencing Act, 165 00:10:09,777 --> 00:10:11,028 which Republicans and Democrats, 166 00:10:11,236 --> 00:10:13,739 inducing senators Obama and Clinton at the time, 167 00:10:13,947 --> 00:10:17,576 voted for, which essentially allowed the Bush administration, 168 00:10:17,785 --> 00:10:19,203 and then succeeding administrations, 169 00:10:19,411 --> 00:10:21,497 to put up these physical barriers 170 00:10:21,705 --> 00:10:25,501 and to effectively waive all environmental 171 00:10:25,709 --> 00:10:27,252 and local stakeholders' safeguards. 172 00:10:30,214 --> 00:10:33,175 I Be to] I think people who aren't from the border, 173 00:10:34,635 --> 00:10:36,929 this might make a lot of sense to them like-- 174 00:10:37,137 --> 00:10:39,598 So we hear there are problems with Mexico or immigration 175 00:10:39,807 --> 00:10:43,602 or drugs, yeah, a-- a big giant fence 176 00:10:43,811 --> 00:10:47,106 with steel and concrete that-- that makes a lot of sense. 177 00:10:47,314 --> 00:10:49,525 When you live here, you, you obviously-- 178 00:10:49,733 --> 00:10:52,277 You see it differently and you feel it-- 179 00:10:52,486 --> 00:10:54,029 You feel it differently. 180 00:10:54,238 --> 00:10:58,033 I think being a politician 181 00:10:58,242 --> 00:11:01,954 and working um, 182 00:11:02,162 --> 00:11:05,874 across the aisle, in most cases for candidates, 183 00:11:06,834 --> 00:11:08,127 is not rewarded at all. 184 00:11:09,169 --> 00:11:12,881 They are rewarded for extreme stances. 185 00:11:13,090 --> 00:11:14,716 I'm Will Hurd. I'm the representative 186 00:11:14,925 --> 00:11:17,970 from the 23rd Congressional District of Texas, 187 00:11:18,178 --> 00:11:20,973 which goes from the fringes of El Paso 188 00:11:21,181 --> 00:11:22,307 all the way to San Antonio. 189 00:11:22,516 --> 00:11:25,853 I have 820 miles of the border. 190 00:11:26,061 --> 00:11:27,146 And I spent nine and a half years 191 00:11:27,354 --> 00:11:29,148 as an undercover officer in the CIA. 192 00:11:29,356 --> 00:11:30,899 I sit on the Homeland Security Committee. 193 00:11:31,900 --> 00:11:34,194 I've chased bad guys all over the world, 194 00:11:34,403 --> 00:11:38,240 I've chased terrorists, I've chased nuclear weapons, proliferators. 195 00:11:38,448 --> 00:11:41,034 I've tr-- I've chased the narcotraficantes. 196 00:11:41,243 --> 00:11:45,330 And you learn that your adversary has resources. 197 00:11:45,539 --> 00:11:48,792 They have um, the commitment to do something 198 00:11:49,001 --> 00:11:51,211 and they're-- they're-- they're-- they're smart. 199 00:11:51,420 --> 00:11:55,299 That's why any conversation um, on uh-- 200 00:11:55,507 --> 00:12:01,180 On immigration or security has to begin with operational control of our border. 201 00:12:01,388 --> 00:12:03,849 I went to John Marshall High School, but in [indistinct] 202 00:12:04,057 --> 00:12:05,684 -Okay, um-- -I'm talking about when-- when we were in-- 203 00:12:05,893 --> 00:12:08,061 When were in hi-- yeah. I took my ring off, 204 00:12:08,270 --> 00:12:10,189 -because obviously I was just supposed to. -No, dude you got to-- 205 00:12:10,397 --> 00:12:12,733 -What are you doing? -No, but like |I didn't know-- 206 00:12:12,941 --> 00:12:14,443 Nobody else is wearing jewelry. 207 00:12:16,486 --> 00:12:18,780 [Will] We can get operational control of our border. 208 00:12:18,989 --> 00:12:22,743 We can enforce our laws to give deterrence 209 00:12:22,951 --> 00:12:24,786 and a consequence to that negative behavior. 210 00:12:26,163 --> 00:12:29,791 [background chatter] 211 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,294 [Ben] We just got to the end of the wall for the first time. 212 00:12:35,464 --> 00:12:37,966 We need our-- our men and women in the Border Patrol 213 00:12:38,175 --> 00:12:40,344 to know exactly what the threat is, 214 00:12:40,552 --> 00:12:45,390 so they're not showing up with no information about what's going on. 215 00:12:45,599 --> 00:12:49,978 And-- and so that's why getting the right tools is important. 216 00:12:50,187 --> 00:12:52,814 And-- and I think-- I think folks need to realize 217 00:12:53,023 --> 00:12:55,943 that you know, um, that we wanna secure the border, 218 00:12:56,151 --> 00:12:58,403 we should have secured our border by now. 219 00:12:58,612 --> 00:13:00,697 -Let's roll. You all-- you all start going. 220 00:13:00,906 --> 00:13:01,990 Okay, we're gonna-- we're gonna head back. 221 00:13:02,199 --> 00:13:04,034 [Austin] There is wa-- there's like-- 222 00:13:04,243 --> 00:13:06,328 -There is a canal right there. -We just cross the canal? 223 00:13:07,537 --> 00:13:10,207 -[Filipe] I'll take my shirt off and move across. -[Jay] I mean we could, but uh-- 224 00:13:10,415 --> 00:13:12,459 -[Will] Yeah. For sure, -It's supposed to be an adventure, right? 225 00:13:13,377 --> 00:13:16,171 [Heather] We could jump through here, we could just sail right off. 226 00:13:19,549 --> 00:13:20,842 [Will] This shit is deep. 227 00:13:22,552 --> 00:13:24,680 [Heather] You know, I can't get my bike-- 228 00:13:24,888 --> 00:13:28,433 Oh yeah! Oh, that's nice. 229 00:13:28,642 --> 00:13:30,894 Ooh! Ooh! 230 00:13:32,271 --> 00:13:33,772 [Will] Y'all didn't tell me it was cold. 231 00:13:33,981 --> 00:13:35,399 -[laughing] -[Heather] Yee-haw, I know! 232 00:13:35,607 --> 00:13:36,441 [Filipe] Getting' the congressman 233 00:13:36,650 --> 00:13:38,735 in a bit of pickle here. 234 00:13:38,944 --> 00:13:40,028 Here we go. 235 00:13:41,571 --> 00:13:43,407 -[Filipe] Got it. -You want the camera or you want the hand? 236 00:13:43,615 --> 00:13:44,950 -I'll take your hand. -Yeah. 237 00:13:45,158 --> 00:13:46,368 [Heather] What? 238 00:13:46,576 --> 00:13:48,120 -Yeah. -[Heather] Getting through. 239 00:13:48,328 --> 00:13:50,414 Oh yeah. 240 00:13:50,622 --> 00:13:51,707 Your government salutes you. 241 00:13:51,915 --> 00:13:53,458 -[laughing] -I'm sure. 242 00:13:53,667 --> 00:13:54,876 I get to my next appointment on time. 243 00:13:55,085 --> 00:13:56,003 [laughing] 244 00:13:56,211 --> 00:13:59,923 [song in the background] 245 00:14:09,433 --> 00:14:10,475 [Austin] Wooh-hoo-hoo-hoo! 246 00:14:15,439 --> 00:14:17,482 -[Jay laughing] -Cheers, boys. 247 00:14:17,691 --> 00:14:21,194 Hey, well, to only having five bike malfunctions. 248 00:14:21,403 --> 00:14:22,487 Yeah. 249 00:14:35,917 --> 00:14:37,210 [Ben] Pretty good oatmeal. 250 00:14:39,546 --> 00:14:41,340 Glad I get to eat this. 251 00:14:41,548 --> 00:14:42,966 Is Heather up? 252 00:14:43,175 --> 00:14:44,176 [Heather] Yeah, I'm up. 253 00:14:44,384 --> 00:14:45,802 Okay. 254 00:14:46,011 --> 00:14:47,179 [Austin] Why? Then we need your expertise. 255 00:14:47,387 --> 00:14:49,222 There's all these birds fl yin' around. 256 00:14:52,225 --> 00:14:54,353 [Heather] Such a amazing way to start the day. 257 00:14:54,561 --> 00:14:57,856 Just you out there, listening to the birdsong, 258 00:14:58,607 --> 00:14:59,983 taking everything in. 259 00:15:00,192 --> 00:15:02,277 And it's like such a great time to see 260 00:15:02,486 --> 00:15:05,030 all kinds of wildlife. 261 00:15:05,238 --> 00:15:08,909 [Heather] I grew up in Upstate, New York. 262 00:15:09,117 --> 00:15:13,038 Went to college at Cornell where I studied ecology. 263 00:15:14,289 --> 00:15:17,542 I worked for about five years as a field biologist. 264 00:15:17,751 --> 00:15:21,254 Then I pursued my masters in The Big Bend 265 00:15:21,463 --> 00:15:23,256 and fell in love with the border. 266 00:15:26,510 --> 00:15:30,097 On this trip, I'm going to be doing 267 00:15:30,305 --> 00:15:35,352 as many bird surveys along the route as I can fit in. 268 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,897 My intention is to survey these areas 269 00:15:39,106 --> 00:15:43,568 that nobody has really surveyed birds before 270 00:15:43,777 --> 00:15:47,239 to see what the biodiversity is 271 00:15:47,447 --> 00:15:50,450 before a potential border wall is built. 272 00:15:53,995 --> 00:15:56,248 When you think a high bird diversity 273 00:15:56,456 --> 00:16:00,919 or just high biodiversity, you don't think of a desert. 274 00:16:01,128 --> 00:16:06,842 But it's some of the highest vegetation diversity, and therefore bird diversity, 275 00:16:07,050 --> 00:16:09,553 because you have all these different elevations 276 00:16:09,761 --> 00:16:13,056 and you have the Rio Grande going through 277 00:16:13,265 --> 00:16:16,643 that creates a completely different habitat. 278 00:16:18,437 --> 00:16:21,565 If you're just cruising' on by, you're gonna think 279 00:16:21,773 --> 00:16:23,942 there's not anything here. 280 00:16:24,151 --> 00:16:27,362 But if you just stop, and like look around, 281 00:16:27,571 --> 00:16:30,490 and listen for a little bit, you realize this place is alive. 282 00:16:30,699 --> 00:16:33,160 [suspenseful music] 283 00:17:02,272 --> 00:17:04,483 [Ben] The Rio Grande is the fourth longest river 284 00:17:04,691 --> 00:17:06,443 in North America. 285 00:17:06,651 --> 00:17:09,488 It starts in Colorado, flows through New Mexico, 286 00:17:09,696 --> 00:17:13,992 and becomes the US-Mexico border for over 1,200 miles in Texas. 287 00:17:15,785 --> 00:17:18,330 There are so many dams and diversions 288 00:17:18,538 --> 00:17:22,209 that the Rio Grande runs dry below El Paso. 289 00:17:22,417 --> 00:17:25,504 And for nearly 300 miles, there is little to no water. 290 00:17:26,630 --> 00:17:28,256 The Forgotten Reach. 291 00:17:30,550 --> 00:17:32,135 [playing the harmonica] 292 00:17:37,182 --> 00:17:38,517 -[Heather] Well. -[Austin] Let me help you out with that. 293 00:17:38,725 --> 00:17:39,643 We're fucked. 294 00:17:39,851 --> 00:17:41,061 It's home. 295 00:17:46,316 --> 00:17:47,609 [Filipe] We'd start riding our bikes, 296 00:17:50,237 --> 00:17:52,364 and the ride's going" pretty well, 297 00:17:52,572 --> 00:17:56,201 and then out of nowhere snow just starts dumping' on us. 298 00:18:00,830 --> 00:18:03,083 [wind blowing] 299 00:18:06,795 --> 00:18:10,465 [Ben] I'm doing a-- Bring the toes back alive again. 300 00:18:12,300 --> 00:18:15,053 [Jay] Wow, these are some big flakes. 301 00:18:18,348 --> 00:18:19,641 The temperature is dropping. 302 00:18:29,192 --> 00:18:32,737 [Heather] The roads are very quickly degrading. 303 00:18:32,946 --> 00:18:34,447 You can ride for a little while 304 00:18:34,656 --> 00:18:39,244 and then the-- the wheels just accumulate mud. 305 00:18:39,452 --> 00:18:42,372 It's still like spring conditions everywhere. 306 00:18:42,581 --> 00:18:43,748 [Austin grunting] 307 00:18:45,542 --> 00:18:48,753 [Austin] I've never been scared away from-- 308 00:18:48,962 --> 00:18:51,798 From getting you know, down to business and getting it done. 309 00:18:53,341 --> 00:18:54,426 [Austin grunting] 310 00:18:56,845 --> 00:18:58,305 [Austin] But dang, that was some serious mud. 311 00:18:58,513 --> 00:19:00,181 That was class five mud right there. 312 00:19:01,433 --> 00:19:02,684 [Austin grunting] 313 00:19:22,245 --> 00:19:26,416 At some point, you're not riding the bike, 314 00:19:26,625 --> 00:19:28,793 the bike is riding you. 315 00:19:29,002 --> 00:19:32,797 And uh, you're starting to question the process. 316 00:19:33,006 --> 00:19:35,091 [Filipe sniffles and takes a deep breath] 317 00:19:35,300 --> 00:19:39,220 [Filipe] This thing is freaking heavy. 318 00:19:39,429 --> 00:19:40,388 [taking deep breaths] 319 00:19:50,607 --> 00:19:55,153 [Filipe] We wake up the next morning, decide just to dump the bikes. 320 00:19:55,362 --> 00:19:59,324 We left our support crew and we continued on by foot. 321 00:20:16,925 --> 00:20:18,426 [Filipe grunting] 322 00:20:25,934 --> 00:20:27,268 [Filipe] Literally, on my knees. 323 00:20:34,234 --> 00:20:35,735 What about in going to the valley 324 00:20:35,944 --> 00:20:38,905 or like going' even farther up and going' up and over this? 325 00:20:39,989 --> 00:20:40,865 Is that an option? 326 00:20:42,534 --> 00:20:45,495 [Jay] I think our reference point is [indistinct]. 327 00:20:46,705 --> 00:20:48,456 [Jay] We'll just have to go around and come back. 328 00:20:55,338 --> 00:20:56,881 [Filipe] Sorry, keep running. 329 00:20:57,090 --> 00:21:00,343 -[Filipe] Keep going. -That's it, yeah. 330 00:21:00,552 --> 00:21:03,388 For the first time in this trip, I mean we're only a week into the trip, 331 00:21:03,596 --> 00:21:05,306 but today is the first day 332 00:21:05,515 --> 00:21:08,309 that we got a real first hand perspective 333 00:21:08,518 --> 00:21:10,562 of what somebody would have to go through 334 00:21:10,770 --> 00:21:12,355 if they were to cross illegally. 335 00:21:12,564 --> 00:21:13,898 They wouldn't be doing it on horseback, 336 00:21:14,107 --> 00:21:15,400 they wouldn't be doing it on a canoe, 337 00:21:15,608 --> 00:21:17,193 they wouldn't be doing it on bike. 338 00:21:17,402 --> 00:21:18,737 -[Filipe] They'd be walking-- -[Ben] For three months. 339 00:21:23,408 --> 00:21:26,286 We came over to the US from Brazil 340 00:21:26,494 --> 00:21:27,954 when I was about six years old. 341 00:21:29,748 --> 00:21:31,458 I was born in the countryside. 342 00:21:32,584 --> 00:21:34,210 I remember traveling in the Amazon 343 00:21:34,419 --> 00:21:36,963 and you know, life being carefree in a way. 344 00:21:39,632 --> 00:21:43,261 And then we were displaced from a flood. 345 00:21:47,056 --> 00:21:49,517 Growing up in Rio de Janeiro, 346 00:21:49,726 --> 00:21:53,521 we were living in the most notorious ghetto in the world 347 00:21:54,439 --> 00:21:59,444 very much at the forefront of drugs, and the cartel and violence. 348 00:22:00,653 --> 00:22:02,697 Anything was better in her eyes. 349 00:22:08,578 --> 00:22:11,372 We flew over here because my mom had a worker visa. 350 00:22:12,665 --> 00:22:14,709 And we came over, me and mom, my sister. 351 00:22:17,962 --> 00:22:20,590 |I think it was my mom's intention 352 00:22:20,799 --> 00:22:24,511 to come over here and create a new life 353 00:22:24,719 --> 00:22:27,472 for me and my sister, without my dad, 354 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,683 because he was just a nightmare of a human being. 355 00:22:30,892 --> 00:22:33,812 He was really abusive and-- and addicted to drugs, 356 00:22:34,020 --> 00:22:37,315 and you know, not the kind of person 357 00:22:37,524 --> 00:22:39,943 that she wanted to raise her kids. 358 00:22:42,362 --> 00:22:44,614 What I don't think she expected was that 359 00:22:44,823 --> 00:22:48,868 he was going to get rid of all of our legal documents. 360 00:22:51,371 --> 00:22:54,290 She was faced with a very difficult decision. 361 00:22:54,499 --> 00:22:58,378 Go back to Brazil, and then try and come back um, 362 00:22:58,586 --> 00:23:00,505 another way through immigration 363 00:23:00,713 --> 00:23:02,382 or just stay here and figure it out. 364 00:23:04,384 --> 00:23:08,388 [Filipe] Ultimately that meant for about 14 years, we stayed illegally. 365 00:23:24,904 --> 00:23:29,742 There are four avenues or categories through which one can immigrate legally 366 00:23:29,951 --> 00:23:33,913 in to the United States. The first and the most common is one based 367 00:23:34,122 --> 00:23:37,542 on family reunification where preference is given 368 00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:41,379 to the immediate family members. 369 00:23:41,588 --> 00:23:45,049 [Victoria] The second route is through employer-based immigration. 370 00:23:47,093 --> 00:23:50,638 The third is through the refugee or asylee process. 371 00:23:52,849 --> 00:23:56,853 And the last category is through the diversity visa lottery. 372 00:23:58,855 --> 00:24:01,065 If you look at the past 10 or 15 years, 373 00:24:01,274 --> 00:24:04,068 you see a leveling out for about 1 million per year. 374 00:24:04,277 --> 00:24:05,612 There is a cap to that. 375 00:24:08,948 --> 00:24:11,451 Folks don't choose to be undocumented. 376 00:24:13,786 --> 00:24:15,830 When somebody says: "get in line", 377 00:24:16,039 --> 00:24:18,166 many times there aren't lines. 378 00:24:20,877 --> 00:24:24,589 [Beto] The flow of migration to the US 379 00:24:24,797 --> 00:24:26,841 is really a function of our economy. 380 00:24:27,050 --> 00:24:30,678 The function of economies uh, in the Americas and it's hemisphere, 381 00:24:30,887 --> 00:24:34,974 a function of um, the kind of violence and brutality, 382 00:24:35,183 --> 00:24:38,978 civil wars and death that you find in Central America 383 00:24:39,187 --> 00:24:41,814 that-- that you have found off and on in--in Mexico. 384 00:24:42,023 --> 00:24:44,025 There's also a misconception about Mexico. 385 00:24:45,151 --> 00:24:48,780 We are at net zero um, immigration with Mexico, 386 00:24:48,988 --> 00:24:51,824 which means it's not a plus or minus, right. 387 00:24:52,033 --> 00:24:54,369 Uh, most people will think that 388 00:24:54,577 --> 00:24:57,747 you know, most of the illegal immigration is coming from Mexico. 389 00:24:57,956 --> 00:25:00,792 It's not. It's coming from Central America. 390 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,044 Mexico is actually a partner of ours 391 00:25:03,252 --> 00:25:05,129 in trying to stop illegal immigration, 392 00:25:05,338 --> 00:25:07,715 because they are dealing with some of the similar issues 393 00:25:07,924 --> 00:25:09,217 on their southern border. 394 00:25:11,594 --> 00:25:13,054 [cicadas singing] 395 00:25:16,724 --> 00:25:19,936 -[Austin] Wow! Wow, look at this! -[Filipe] it's right there, man. 396 00:25:20,144 --> 00:25:21,854 -[Austin] Wow! -[Jay] It made me go so fast. 397 00:25:22,063 --> 00:25:24,983 -[Austin] I'm so glad it's pavement. -[Ben] No mud. [kissing] 398 00:25:25,191 --> 00:25:28,152 [Austin] I'm just gonna do this, 'cause my knees can't bend. 399 00:25:28,361 --> 00:25:30,613 [laughing] 400 00:25:31,823 --> 00:25:33,950 [soft guitar music] 401 00:25:42,834 --> 00:25:46,921 [Ben] When that trailer pulled in, my heart just like filled with joy. 402 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,800 It symbolized the end of the bicycle, 403 00:25:51,009 --> 00:25:53,469 which is like the greatest 404 00:25:53,678 --> 00:25:55,596 thing that's happened thus far on the trip. 405 00:25:56,806 --> 00:25:58,850 -[donkey braying] -[all laughing] 406 00:26:00,935 --> 00:26:03,187 -[indistinct] -Here's your horse. 407 00:26:03,396 --> 00:26:06,190 -Alright, let's do it. -[Ben] Your horse's name is "Donkey Dust". 408 00:26:06,399 --> 00:26:08,651 [laughing] 409 00:26:08,860 --> 00:26:10,778 I think I'm ready for a new life together. 410 00:26:10,987 --> 00:26:11,779 [laughing] 411 00:26:11,988 --> 00:26:13,114 Alright, we'll see you. 412 00:26:13,322 --> 00:26:14,949 [laughing] 413 00:26:15,992 --> 00:26:18,536 [Ben] Now, I've been fortunate to work on ranches 414 00:26:18,745 --> 00:26:22,957 and to do a lot of packed trips all over the American West. 415 00:26:24,667 --> 00:26:26,919 And then this is Dinosaur. 416 00:26:27,128 --> 00:26:30,757 [Ben] My mustangs are so good, they know how to ride. 417 00:26:30,965 --> 00:26:32,800 -He's a beautiful mustang. -Yeah. 418 00:26:35,136 --> 00:26:36,971 [Ben] I knew they would take good care of everybody, 419 00:26:38,014 --> 00:26:41,142 which is very important, because Filipe... 420 00:26:42,310 --> 00:26:44,562 no idea how to ride a horse. 421 00:26:44,771 --> 00:26:45,730 [Filipe] You think she"ll let me on? 422 00:26:46,689 --> 00:26:48,691 You have riding boots. 423 00:26:52,111 --> 00:26:54,197 -[Austin] What do you need, huh? -How do you get on? 424 00:26:54,405 --> 00:26:55,281 [Ben] Just hop on! 425 00:26:59,619 --> 00:27:00,828 [Austin] You know you got it. 426 00:27:02,121 --> 00:27:03,081 [laughing] 427 00:27:07,794 --> 00:27:09,337 Yeah, buddy! 428 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,090 Alright, let's go. 429 00:27:12,298 --> 00:27:13,508 [Austin] Let's go. 430 00:27:13,716 --> 00:27:14,842 -Help me, help me get off. -Okay, come on. 431 00:27:15,051 --> 00:27:16,636 Alright, hold on. 432 00:27:16,844 --> 00:27:19,263 Alright. Now, I'm gonna ride Ben around. 433 00:27:19,472 --> 00:27:21,265 Come on, Ben! 434 00:27:21,474 --> 00:27:24,894 [Heather] I've been on a horse a handful of times 435 00:27:25,103 --> 00:27:29,357 like the touristy situation or like a birthday party or something. 436 00:27:30,691 --> 00:27:32,610 I'm not particularly concerned. 437 00:27:32,819 --> 00:27:34,904 I trust Ben's judgment. 438 00:27:35,113 --> 00:27:37,156 You know, which maybe I shouldn't. 439 00:27:38,407 --> 00:27:39,700 [Filipe] Let's ride! 440 00:27:39,909 --> 00:27:41,202 [everybody cheering] 441 00:27:45,790 --> 00:27:49,043 [Ben] The part that I was most excited about was the Big Bend. 442 00:27:51,212 --> 00:27:54,632 Big Bend Ranch State Park is 300,000 acres. 443 00:27:54,841 --> 00:27:57,385 Big Bend Ranch National Park is 800,000 acres. 444 00:28:01,222 --> 00:28:05,059 Combined, it's this massive relatively untouched habitat. 445 00:28:09,272 --> 00:28:10,731 [Jay] An ancestor of mine, 446 00:28:10,940 --> 00:28:13,151 who was Parks and Wildlife Commissioner 447 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,237 back in the '30s and '40s, visited this country 448 00:28:16,445 --> 00:28:20,074 when they were looking at designating Big Bend National Park. 449 00:28:21,701 --> 00:28:23,995 And he was a relatively famous rancher. 450 00:28:24,203 --> 00:28:25,997 So that's in his blood like he sees the land 451 00:28:26,205 --> 00:28:29,083 and he sees how am I gonna produce off of that land. 452 00:28:29,292 --> 00:28:31,002 And his comment 453 00:28:31,210 --> 00:28:33,838 that the highest and best use for that land 454 00:28:34,046 --> 00:28:36,257 is for public recreation. 455 00:28:38,801 --> 00:28:41,721 We're sitting on the results of that legacy. 456 00:28:43,806 --> 00:28:46,267 It's important for me to complete that circle, 457 00:28:47,476 --> 00:28:51,272 and try and protect an area that he saw promising. 458 00:28:52,315 --> 00:28:55,276 That's threatened right now by the law. 459 00:28:56,861 --> 00:29:01,699 And so if I can do something to sort of protect that legacy, 460 00:29:01,908 --> 00:29:05,203 then I feel like that's an important part of-- 461 00:29:05,411 --> 00:29:06,704 Of my life right now. 462 00:29:18,007 --> 00:29:18,883 [whistling] 463 00:29:21,761 --> 00:29:22,970 [Ben] Pay attention, boys. 464 00:29:23,179 --> 00:29:24,347 [whistling] 465 00:29:26,515 --> 00:29:28,017 [Ben] Rocks! 466 00:29:28,226 --> 00:29:30,102 Easy, Tough, easy, easy. 467 00:29:30,311 --> 00:29:32,063 [Heather] Alright, go ahead now. 468 00:29:33,439 --> 00:29:35,483 [Ben] Yeah, this is definitely a walker. 469 00:29:36,484 --> 00:29:38,152 -[Ben] Yeah. -[Heather] Carrying a lot, yeah. 470 00:29:38,361 --> 00:29:41,322 30 minutes in adventure mode, engaged. 471 00:29:42,782 --> 00:29:44,283 [Ben] This area is 472 00:29:44,492 --> 00:29:47,078 some of the gnarliest, rockiest, nastiest 473 00:29:47,286 --> 00:29:48,496 terrain I've ever been in. 474 00:29:52,333 --> 00:29:56,045 Every single piece of vegetation out here has thorns 475 00:29:56,254 --> 00:29:58,047 and stickers and cactus. 476 00:30:05,888 --> 00:30:07,974 [Heather] Alright. 477 00:30:08,182 --> 00:30:09,433 [Heather] Good, good. 478 00:30:09,642 --> 00:30:11,102 [Filipe] Dude, these mustangs 479 00:30:11,310 --> 00:30:13,187 are made for the back country. 480 00:30:14,230 --> 00:30:19,110 Fortunately, all my mustangs, they were all born in the wild 481 00:30:19,318 --> 00:30:21,821 on public lands in the American West. 482 00:30:22,029 --> 00:30:24,198 [background music] 483 00:30:24,407 --> 00:30:28,411 [Ben] They grew up in desolate harsh landscapes like this. 484 00:30:29,578 --> 00:30:32,081 They know how to walk through this country, 485 00:30:32,290 --> 00:30:33,958 they know how to meander through the rocks, 486 00:30:34,166 --> 00:30:37,169 and stay away from the cactus, and how to navigate 487 00:30:37,378 --> 00:30:39,213 through cliffs and difficult terrain. 488 00:30:40,381 --> 00:30:41,841 It makes me proud to-- 489 00:30:42,925 --> 00:30:45,261 To see my ponies take care of everybody so well 490 00:30:45,469 --> 00:30:47,471 and take care of themselves so well. 491 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,390 They are great-- they're great horses. 492 00:30:51,851 --> 00:30:53,436 Yeah, I like [indistinct] 493 00:30:53,644 --> 00:30:56,147 [Ben] Five years ago, some friends and I went out 494 00:30:56,355 --> 00:30:57,440 and adopted these mustangs, 495 00:30:59,108 --> 00:31:03,154 trained them and rode 3,000 miles from Mexico to Canada 496 00:31:03,362 --> 00:31:05,239 through public lands in the American West. 497 00:31:09,035 --> 00:31:12,371 That experience completely changed my life 498 00:31:12,580 --> 00:31:16,167 and gave me a huge appreciation not only for these horses, 499 00:31:16,375 --> 00:31:17,585 but for public lands. 500 00:31:20,254 --> 00:31:23,841 Less than 3% of Texas is open to the public. 501 00:31:24,050 --> 00:31:24,842 That's it. 502 00:31:25,968 --> 00:31:29,138 And there is no way that you could put a border wall 503 00:31:29,347 --> 00:31:32,058 even close to the river in a lot of this country. 504 00:31:35,061 --> 00:31:37,021 It'd have to be built inland, 505 00:31:37,229 --> 00:31:41,525 bulldozed, and slicing apart the only big chunk of public land 506 00:31:41,734 --> 00:31:43,277 that we have left in Texas, 507 00:31:44,236 --> 00:31:47,573 essentially blocking us from the Rio Grande. 508 00:31:55,331 --> 00:31:57,291 [Austin] You can feel the crisp air right by the Rio. 509 00:31:59,293 --> 00:32:00,920 [Heather] Look at all that water. 510 00:32:01,128 --> 00:32:02,213 It's the first time we've been in the river. 511 00:32:02,421 --> 00:32:04,882 [background music] 512 00:32:08,344 --> 00:32:11,472 This is kind of emotional right now. 513 00:32:13,682 --> 00:32:15,142 I'm giddy. 514 00:32:15,351 --> 00:32:16,352 [Austin] Oh yeah. 515 00:32:20,981 --> 00:32:22,191 [Austin] He couldn't resist. 516 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:23,359 [Jay] There he is. 517 00:32:26,278 --> 00:32:27,446 [cheering] 518 00:32:29,532 --> 00:32:32,034 It's amazing, it's beautiful, and it's 519 00:32:32,243 --> 00:32:34,412 the lifeblood of this entire area. 520 00:32:34,620 --> 00:32:36,080 And uh... 521 00:32:37,164 --> 00:32:39,083 You don't really think about the politics behind it. 522 00:32:39,291 --> 00:32:40,918 -Watch out! -[Filipe] If they could see this-- 523 00:32:41,127 --> 00:32:44,046 I'm sorry I can't pay attention with this going on. 524 00:32:44,255 --> 00:32:45,631 -[Austin] Are you coming? -[shouting] 525 00:32:46,590 --> 00:32:49,260 -I'm not-- I'm not wearing a underwear! -[Austin] Come on! 526 00:32:49,468 --> 00:32:52,263 -Perfect. -Alright, my bike shorts need washing. 527 00:32:54,056 --> 00:32:56,100 [Ben] Oh, this is a terrible idea. 528 00:32:57,309 --> 00:32:58,352 [Jay] Yeah, you better jump in. 529 00:32:58,561 --> 00:33:00,062 [Heather] Get your ass in here! 530 00:33:00,271 --> 00:33:01,147 [Ben] I'm coming'! 531 00:33:03,065 --> 00:33:05,192 [cheering and laughing] 532 00:33:24,086 --> 00:33:26,714 [calm music] 533 00:33:33,679 --> 00:33:37,057 Big Bend is-- it's one of those vast landscapes 534 00:33:37,266 --> 00:33:39,977 that is unlike any other. 535 00:33:41,729 --> 00:33:44,148 There's just a huge amount of diversity 536 00:33:44,356 --> 00:33:46,984 from large mammals all the way down to the smallest. 537 00:33:48,486 --> 00:33:52,698 [Dr. Louis] And we rely on Mexico for some of these populations. 538 00:33:54,783 --> 00:33:58,078 Black bear is probably the best example of that. 539 00:33:58,287 --> 00:34:01,040 You know, we basically extirpated black bears 540 00:34:01,248 --> 00:34:04,335 from the Big Bend region of Texas uh, in the 1950s, 541 00:34:04,543 --> 00:34:06,420 uh, hunting, trapping, things like that. 542 00:34:08,589 --> 00:34:13,344 Until about 1990, we had a-- a lone female come across 543 00:34:13,552 --> 00:34:16,430 and uh, she had cubs, that population started to grow. 544 00:34:26,482 --> 00:34:30,653 And now we have 40, 50, maybe even 100 bears in Texas today 545 00:34:30,861 --> 00:34:32,780 and that is solely dependent on Mexico. 546 00:34:35,824 --> 00:34:38,244 Our large mammals, they cross that river 547 00:34:38,452 --> 00:34:40,287 sometimes on a daily basis. 548 00:34:43,541 --> 00:34:45,584 If those porters are cut off 549 00:34:47,127 --> 00:34:49,505 you know, if there-- there is a wall there, 550 00:34:49,713 --> 00:34:51,549 it's gonna cut off that water source. 551 00:34:51,757 --> 00:34:54,051 We would start seeing issues genetically. 552 00:34:55,678 --> 00:34:58,097 They need to be able to move freely 553 00:34:58,305 --> 00:34:59,557 to be able to survive. 554 00:35:02,851 --> 00:35:05,104 -[Ben whistling] -[Heather] Donkey found some shade. 555 00:35:06,105 --> 00:35:08,023 [Filipe] Oh, she did. Look at her over there. 556 00:35:08,232 --> 00:35:09,400 [Heather] Oh, she's got a little patch. 557 00:35:09,608 --> 00:35:11,652 I would think that after a few hours 558 00:35:11,860 --> 00:35:15,072 -you would start to like get the motion down. -Yes. Yeah. 559 00:35:15,281 --> 00:35:16,532 But it still hasn't happened. 560 00:35:18,325 --> 00:35:21,245 [Filipe] I mean I'm not ruling kids out, but you know-- 561 00:35:21,453 --> 00:35:22,621 [Ben laughing] 562 00:35:43,601 --> 00:35:47,605 [Jay] I think it's been a total shock to Heather 563 00:35:47,813 --> 00:35:50,482 and Filipe and Austin's body, 564 00:35:50,691 --> 00:35:55,738 because those are parts of your body and muscles 565 00:35:55,946 --> 00:35:58,365 that you don't normally use. 566 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,286 [Heather] Describe the pain. 567 00:36:02,494 --> 00:36:05,080 Describe the pain. 568 00:36:05,289 --> 00:36:07,625 Imagine Bob the Builder jack hammering away 569 00:36:07,833 --> 00:36:10,294 at your business region for like 20 miles. 570 00:36:10,502 --> 00:36:13,172 [upbeat country music] 571 00:36:15,883 --> 00:36:18,469 I couldn't quite get the posture 572 00:36:18,677 --> 00:36:20,638 and the trot formation down. 573 00:36:20,846 --> 00:36:24,642 So instead of like posting and you know, just kind of like 574 00:36:24,850 --> 00:36:27,144 doing that dance with the horse, 575 00:36:27,353 --> 00:36:28,395 I was just being'-- 576 00:36:38,864 --> 00:36:42,409 But with that being said, it was-- it was emotional. 577 00:36:42,618 --> 00:36:43,869 [veiling] 578 00:36:46,246 --> 00:36:48,332 You don't connect with a bicycle 579 00:36:48,540 --> 00:36:52,586 or a unicycle or a canoe the same way you do with a horse. 580 00:36:54,588 --> 00:36:57,466 The only thing cooler than being on top of the world 581 00:36:57,675 --> 00:36:59,343 is being on top of the world on a horse. 582 00:37:08,727 --> 00:37:12,356 [background chatter] 583 00:37:16,860 --> 00:37:19,822 [Jay] Visually you think that you can take off, ride somewhere, 584 00:37:20,030 --> 00:37:22,616 and then all of a sudden there is a 100-footed rail. 585 00:37:24,326 --> 00:37:26,495 There's just no trails in some of this country. 586 00:37:30,958 --> 00:37:31,959 I don't know. 587 00:37:33,627 --> 00:37:35,421 I don't know about this. 588 00:37:35,629 --> 00:37:38,298 [indistinct] 589 00:37:38,507 --> 00:37:39,758 [Heather] Yeah, I don't-- I don't know 590 00:37:39,967 --> 00:37:42,261 if we're gonna just be bold and keep going'. 591 00:37:53,772 --> 00:37:55,441 [Jay] It's like some of the most rugged country that-- 592 00:37:55,649 --> 00:37:57,234 That I've ever been through in Texas, 593 00:37:57,443 --> 00:37:59,862 because you just have these boxed canyons and this-- 594 00:38:00,070 --> 00:38:03,323 These sheer rock faces on-- on either side of you. 595 00:38:15,919 --> 00:38:18,005 Yeah, hold off on that route. 596 00:38:27,723 --> 00:38:29,767 [Austin] Look to the right. 597 00:38:29,975 --> 00:38:30,934 We're boxed in. 598 00:38:31,143 --> 00:38:32,269 It's a boxed canyon. 599 00:38:33,353 --> 00:38:34,772 I was thinking w-- yeah. 600 00:38:34,980 --> 00:38:37,608 Could we not get semi-high ground? 601 00:38:37,816 --> 00:38:40,944 The smartest thing to do is turn around 602 00:38:41,153 --> 00:38:42,738 and go back the way we came. 603 00:38:43,822 --> 00:38:48,786 I feel about 95% confident that the game trail 604 00:38:48,994 --> 00:38:53,582 that does go up, would be perfectly fine for our horses, 605 00:38:53,791 --> 00:38:58,253 but that 5% risk is something that I'm not willing to risk 606 00:38:58,462 --> 00:38:59,421 with these guys. 607 00:39:00,589 --> 00:39:01,882 So let's just head on out, 608 00:39:02,090 --> 00:39:04,051 then that way everybody will be safe. 609 00:39:08,055 --> 00:39:12,643 This area is as difficult as any landscape 610 00:39:12,851 --> 00:39:14,353 that I've been to in the West. 611 00:39:15,437 --> 00:39:19,942 I don't see how you could build a physical border wall 612 00:39:20,150 --> 00:39:23,445 that's more difficult to cross through than this landscape. 613 00:39:25,572 --> 00:39:27,282 [Will] One of the things that I've been frustrated with 614 00:39:27,491 --> 00:39:29,576 when it comes to border security is 615 00:39:29,785 --> 00:39:31,787 we try to have a one-size-fits-all solution. 616 00:39:31,995 --> 00:39:36,500 Uh, you cannot, because every mile is-- is different. 617 00:39:36,708 --> 00:39:40,963 You have the Rio Grande, you have the canyons, 618 00:39:42,047 --> 00:39:43,966 the Chihuahuan Desert, and you already have 619 00:39:44,174 --> 00:39:46,051 a physical barrier called mountains. 620 00:39:47,761 --> 00:39:50,889 In some areas where Border Patrol response time 621 00:39:51,098 --> 00:39:55,018 is measured in hours to days, 622 00:39:55,227 --> 00:39:58,647 a wall is not a physical barrier, right? 623 00:39:58,856 --> 00:40:02,359 In some places, where there is urban to urban contact, 624 00:40:02,568 --> 00:40:06,697 a fence makes sense, because Border Patrol can measure the response time 625 00:40:06,905 --> 00:40:08,532 in seconds to minutes. 626 00:40:08,740 --> 00:40:11,285 But doing it in the desert and in Big Bend, 627 00:40:11,493 --> 00:40:12,786 that's just crazy. 628 00:40:16,498 --> 00:40:19,710 Building a wall from sea to shining sea 629 00:40:19,918 --> 00:40:22,713 is the most expensive and least effective way 630 00:40:22,921 --> 00:40:23,964 to do border security. 631 00:40:34,182 --> 00:40:36,560 [speaking Spanish] 632 00:40:38,478 --> 00:40:40,397 Another beautiful morning in the Rio Grande. 633 00:40:53,201 --> 00:40:54,453 [Filipe] We're going to Mexico! 634 00:40:55,662 --> 00:40:56,496 [Heather] Doing' it, guys! 635 00:40:56,705 --> 00:40:57,748 [Mexican music] 636 00:40:59,708 --> 00:41:01,418 [immigration officer speaking in Spanish] 637 00:41:01,627 --> 00:41:04,504 I'm officially in Mexico. Ahay! 638 00:41:04,713 --> 00:41:05,672 [Austin] Let's go get tacos. 639 00:41:05,881 --> 00:41:09,551 [speaking Spanish] 640 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,178 [speaking Spanish] 641 00:41:12,220 --> 00:41:14,765 [speaking Spanish] 642 00:41:15,974 --> 00:41:17,601 [speaking Spanish] 643 00:41:17,809 --> 00:41:18,727 [speaking Spanish] 644 00:41:18,936 --> 00:41:22,439 -[Mexican song playing] -Oh! 645 00:41:22,648 --> 00:41:24,775 -[Austin] Oh! -[Jay] Oh my gosh! 646 00:41:24,983 --> 00:41:26,944 -Oh, man! -[Jay laughing] 647 00:41:27,152 --> 00:41:28,779 -[Filipe] Oh, these enchiladas? -[Heather] Um, so excited. 648 00:41:28,987 --> 00:41:30,447 Oh my gosh! 649 00:41:30,656 --> 00:41:32,032 -Mmm. -[Ben] I have two spoons. 650 00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:33,617 -[Austin] Oh my God! -[Ben] I mean two forks. 651 00:41:33,825 --> 00:41:34,785 [Heather] Perfect. 652 00:41:35,494 --> 00:41:38,205 -Hi, welcome. -Thanks so much. 653 00:41:38,413 --> 00:41:40,290 Would you like to sit down? 654 00:41:41,333 --> 00:41:43,001 -Welcome. -Thank you! 655 00:41:43,210 --> 00:41:47,381 Thank you for eating our food. I hope you like it. 656 00:41:47,589 --> 00:41:48,799 -It was delicious! -The food is so good! 657 00:41:49,007 --> 00:41:50,634 Tell her, to eat one of these tacos 658 00:41:50,884 --> 00:41:52,594 is like being kissed by an angel. 659 00:41:53,136 --> 00:41:56,348 So, how long has this restaurant been in your family? 660 00:41:59,768 --> 00:42:01,561 [Ben] Oh my god, I'm full. 661 00:42:01,770 --> 00:42:03,939 [background chatter] 662 00:42:04,147 --> 00:42:06,066 Jay, you got the time? 663 00:42:06,274 --> 00:42:08,026 11 to. 664 00:42:09,152 --> 00:42:10,821 [speaking Spanish] 665 00:42:11,029 --> 00:42:12,531 -[laughing] -[speaking Spanish] 666 00:42:12,739 --> 00:42:15,659 This is gonna be like my Christmas present this year. 667 00:42:15,867 --> 00:42:18,745 [Filipe] Spread the wealth. Spread the wealth. It stops. 668 00:42:19,538 --> 00:42:20,414 Chalo! 669 00:42:20,622 --> 00:42:22,207 -Pleasure to meet you. -Very nice to meet you. 670 00:42:22,708 --> 00:42:25,002 Chalo here is telling us about the uh, power plant 671 00:42:25,210 --> 00:42:27,629 that we should go check out. From there it's a really good view to look through. 672 00:42:27,838 --> 00:42:29,673 But it's a-- it's a solar power plant. 673 00:42:29,881 --> 00:42:30,966 -This is all solar power. -[Jay] No way. 674 00:42:31,174 --> 00:42:32,426 It's the one that provides electricity 675 00:42:32,634 --> 00:42:34,094 -to the whole town here. -You're kidding. 676 00:42:34,761 --> 00:42:37,055 What do you believe would happen here in Boquillas 677 00:42:37,264 --> 00:42:39,766 if a wall were constructed? 678 00:42:40,559 --> 00:42:43,353 What would be affected... 679 00:42:44,187 --> 00:42:45,647 is the wildlife. 680 00:42:45,856 --> 00:42:48,692 Because there, if we look here is a mountain range here 681 00:42:48,900 --> 00:42:50,652 and a mountain range over there. 682 00:42:50,861 --> 00:42:53,155 And these mountain ranges share the wildlife. 683 00:42:54,406 --> 00:42:57,367 Here, we've seen bears, 684 00:42:57,576 --> 00:43:00,996 black bears, lions. 685 00:43:01,204 --> 00:43:04,166 The lions come down specifically because there's a river, 686 00:43:04,374 --> 00:43:06,376 so they walk down from the mountain. 687 00:43:06,585 --> 00:43:09,838 The wildlife is something we value here 688 00:43:10,047 --> 00:43:14,384 apart from everything else, it's also an attraction for tourism. 689 00:43:14,593 --> 00:43:15,761 What do you think 690 00:43:15,969 --> 00:43:19,639 It's been eighty years that 691 00:43:19,848 --> 00:43:26,438 we've been thinking and talking about a bi-national park. 692 00:43:26,646 --> 00:43:29,649 What do you think is necessary 693 00:43:29,858 --> 00:43:34,821 to make it a reality? 694 00:43:35,030 --> 00:43:37,240 I would like it, and would love to see it happen. 695 00:43:37,449 --> 00:43:40,452 I am willing to put my part in what is necessary 696 00:43:40,660 --> 00:43:43,497 But people are needed with the drive, 697 00:43:43,705 --> 00:43:47,501 that come with a positive outlook, not with a negative one. 698 00:43:48,335 --> 00:43:51,546 [epic music] 699 00:43:51,755 --> 00:43:56,134 There's been talk about a bi-national park for decades. 700 00:43:58,345 --> 00:44:01,640 There's millions of acres that are already held 701 00:44:01,848 --> 00:44:03,934 in public trust by both countries. 702 00:44:06,978 --> 00:44:09,106 It's time to see somebody step forward 703 00:44:09,314 --> 00:44:12,859 and really shepherd that and bring that into fruition. 704 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,864 [Heather] It would be a really natural step. 705 00:44:18,073 --> 00:44:22,369 There's already huge protected lands on both sides. 706 00:44:23,787 --> 00:44:26,206 The river itself is wild and scenic. 707 00:44:29,417 --> 00:44:34,131 There's populations of bear and mountain lion 708 00:44:34,339 --> 00:44:37,134 and birds and butterflies moving back and forth 709 00:44:37,342 --> 00:44:39,636 between the two protected areas. 710 00:44:40,762 --> 00:44:46,143 It blows my mind. So many times I found myself saying: "This is in Texas? 711 00:44:46,351 --> 00:44:51,815 Like we're not in Montana or Yellowstone or Yosemite.” 712 00:44:52,023 --> 00:44:53,775 You know, this place is legendary. 713 00:44:55,694 --> 00:45:00,157 It's Texas' last chance to create something truly great 714 00:45:00,365 --> 00:45:03,577 as far as a huge intact ecosystem. 715 00:45:03,785 --> 00:45:05,412 And we can't do it without Mexico. 716 00:45:07,289 --> 00:45:09,791 [Ben] On the last big horseback journey, we rode through 717 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:14,004 Water ton-Glacier International Peace Park on the US-Canada border, 718 00:45:16,756 --> 00:45:19,009 created to symbolize a friendship 719 00:45:19,217 --> 00:45:22,429 and a shared ecosystem between the two countries. 720 00:45:24,306 --> 00:45:26,391 That same opportunity exists here. 721 00:45:30,437 --> 00:45:32,898 And it's a completely different way 722 00:45:33,106 --> 00:45:34,941 to look at the US-Mexico border. 723 00:45:35,150 --> 00:45:37,736 [epic music] 724 00:46:22,906 --> 00:46:24,115 [Filipe] Whoa, we got shadows! 725 00:46:24,324 --> 00:46:26,243 Yay, that's our goal! 726 00:46:27,827 --> 00:46:29,996 -[Filipe] Ben, get a photo! -[Ben] I got it. 727 00:46:30,205 --> 00:46:32,749 -[Austin] Yeah, that's so neat. -[Heather] Wow! 728 00:46:32,958 --> 00:46:33,959 [Austin] Isn't nature neat? 729 00:46:34,167 --> 00:46:35,835 [Heather] I-- Good job, nature. 730 00:46:37,045 --> 00:46:40,882 -[Filipe] Good job. -[Ben] Well, after riding bicycles and riding horses, 731 00:46:41,091 --> 00:46:42,676 we've all come to the agreement that they are 732 00:46:42,884 --> 00:46:45,095 a far superior form of transportation. 733 00:46:45,303 --> 00:46:48,848 [all shouting] 734 00:46:49,057 --> 00:46:51,434 [gentle guitar music] 735 00:46:51,643 --> 00:46:53,019 Alright, Tough. 736 00:46:55,897 --> 00:46:57,774 [Jay] Come on, donkey. 737 00:46:57,983 --> 00:46:59,442 [Ben] I think we might have to pick her up. 738 00:46:59,651 --> 00:47:00,777 Come on, girlfriend. 739 00:47:00,986 --> 00:47:02,237 -[Jay] Aw! -[Heather] Aw! 740 00:47:02,445 --> 00:47:04,864 -[Jay] That's a good girl -[Heather] Great donkey. 741 00:47:05,073 --> 00:47:06,950 -[Heather] Ben, you-- -Ben, you stay in there. 742 00:47:08,118 --> 00:47:10,078 Actually, I feel like staying with my horses. 743 00:47:10,287 --> 00:47:11,413 Bye, ponies. 744 00:47:11,621 --> 00:47:12,831 I miss you already. 745 00:47:13,039 --> 00:47:14,457 Oh! Be good, horses. 746 00:47:14,666 --> 00:47:15,875 -[Heather] Stay well, guys. -See you, Star. 747 00:47:16,084 --> 00:47:18,086 Don't let anybody else ride you. 748 00:47:18,295 --> 00:47:19,921 That goes for the rest of your life. 749 00:47:20,130 --> 00:47:21,131 Donkey, now, you too. 750 00:47:21,339 --> 00:47:22,299 -Oh, see, donkey is calling you. -Man. 751 00:47:23,383 --> 00:47:24,467 It's sad to see him go. 752 00:47:25,510 --> 00:47:27,053 Let's go get us some canoes. 753 00:47:28,513 --> 00:47:30,265 Aw! 754 00:47:30,473 --> 00:47:33,143 [gentle music] 755 00:47:36,229 --> 00:47:38,148 [Ben] Springs flow in to the Rio Grande 756 00:47:38,356 --> 00:47:40,025 and Big Bend National Park, 757 00:47:40,233 --> 00:47:42,527 and there is now enough water to paddle a canoe. 758 00:47:45,405 --> 00:47:47,198 For the next 150 miles, 759 00:47:47,407 --> 00:47:49,826 we are going to travel through Boquillas Canyon 760 00:47:50,035 --> 00:47:53,163 and the Lower Canyons, an area so special, 761 00:47:53,371 --> 00:47:56,291 and so rugged that it is federally protected 762 00:47:56,499 --> 00:47:58,001 as a wild and scenic river. 763 00:48:02,255 --> 00:48:03,840 [Austin] I think we needed to take account 764 00:48:04,966 --> 00:48:06,509 of what exactly we're doing right now. 765 00:48:06,718 --> 00:48:08,386 We're going into the most wild places 766 00:48:08,595 --> 00:48:09,929 in the state of Texas. 767 00:48:10,138 --> 00:48:12,098 We are going into true wilderness 768 00:48:13,475 --> 00:48:14,893 where there's no support. 769 00:48:15,101 --> 00:48:16,269 Like our vehicles have us supported on. 770 00:48:16,478 --> 00:48:18,104 I think all of us, 771 00:48:18,313 --> 00:48:21,274 we should have a higher sense of risk management. 772 00:48:22,567 --> 00:48:23,902 [Jay] We got high pressure, 773 00:48:24,110 --> 00:48:28,239 500 cfs and 15 miles to go today. 774 00:48:28,448 --> 00:48:32,077 750 left in the journey. 775 00:48:32,285 --> 00:48:33,119 Feeling' pretty good. 776 00:48:34,621 --> 00:48:37,040 [Austin] The river does not discriminate, it can be any of us. 777 00:48:38,541 --> 00:48:40,251 There is three kinds of boatmen. 778 00:48:40,460 --> 00:48:43,922 One that has flipped, one that is going to flip, 779 00:48:44,130 --> 00:48:45,256 and one that is flipping. 780 00:48:47,342 --> 00:48:48,218 That's a fact. 781 00:48:52,347 --> 00:48:53,390 [Austin] Oh! 782 00:48:54,432 --> 00:48:56,893 -[Filipe] Oh, Austin dissipated. -[Heather] What does that mean? 783 00:48:58,103 --> 00:49:00,063 -[Heather] Oh shit. -[Austin] Oh shit. 784 00:49:00,271 --> 00:49:01,272 -Oh shit. -[Austin chuckling] 785 00:49:01,481 --> 00:49:02,565 -[Filipe] Stay there, Ben. -No, no! 786 00:49:02,774 --> 00:49:05,819 [all]] No! No!, No! No! No! 787 00:49:06,027 --> 00:49:07,320 -[Filipe] Not the camera again, guys! -[Heather] Oh my God! 788 00:49:07,529 --> 00:49:08,571 [Filipe] There you go, there you go. 789 00:49:10,448 --> 00:49:13,076 [Austin] It was good to acknowledge that things can go bad. 790 00:49:13,284 --> 00:49:16,121 [Austin] And they can go bad really fast and really easy. 791 00:49:16,329 --> 00:49:17,163 Make it on the-- 792 00:49:18,415 --> 00:49:20,291 I know we just like to s-- like we were talking about just 793 00:49:20,500 --> 00:49:21,418 like going and learning on the river, 794 00:49:21,626 --> 00:49:24,921 but like if we can't handle this, 795 00:49:25,130 --> 00:49:26,965 we got no business going up to Lower Canyons. 796 00:49:32,178 --> 00:49:35,932 [epic music] 797 00:49:54,409 --> 00:49:56,578 [Jay] Yeah, I think Ben might have seen them first. 798 00:49:56,786 --> 00:50:01,583 We kind of rounded the Bend and they had been drinking out of the river end. 799 00:50:01,791 --> 00:50:06,337 [Jay] We pulled off and they were uh, probably a dozen desert sheep. 800 00:50:06,546 --> 00:50:08,381 [Heather] There's at least one up there with a collar. 801 00:50:08,590 --> 00:50:10,133 [Jay] Could you give an estimate with out-- 802 00:50:10,341 --> 00:50:11,968 [Jay] It was pretty spectacular to have actually 803 00:50:12,177 --> 00:50:14,304 seen them utilizing the river. 804 00:50:14,512 --> 00:50:18,308 That-- that sort of hit home to me that that's their water source. 805 00:50:18,516 --> 00:50:20,018 All you're you seeing is a cool effort 806 00:50:20,226 --> 00:50:22,645 between US and Mexico, 'cause those sheep, 807 00:50:22,854 --> 00:50:24,981 they have no idea which side of the river is which? 808 00:50:25,190 --> 00:50:26,524 And they're probably-- they're down here 809 00:50:26,733 --> 00:50:29,986 like drinking from the Rio and probably cross over, 810 00:50:30,195 --> 00:50:32,238 -go into Mexico. -You think they'll cross into Mexico and-- 811 00:50:32,447 --> 00:50:33,198 -Oh, for sure. -Yeah? 812 00:50:33,406 --> 00:50:34,407 They've got collar data, 813 00:50:34,616 --> 00:50:35,492 they just use-- 814 00:50:35,700 --> 00:50:37,202 They go all across in here. 815 00:50:38,745 --> 00:50:42,457 Yeah, it's a cool history, because they were completely eliminated 816 00:50:42,665 --> 00:50:44,209 out of this area. 817 00:50:44,417 --> 00:50:46,544 And then about 50 years ago, 818 00:50:46,753 --> 00:50:49,172 they started bringing' them back. And they went from zero 819 00:50:49,380 --> 00:50:51,341 to where they now have over 2,000 of 'em. 820 00:50:51,549 --> 00:50:53,510 It's like this huge story of conservation... 821 00:50:53,718 --> 00:50:55,011 -[Filipe] Ben's boat! -success in this area. 822 00:50:55,220 --> 00:50:56,971 -[Heather] Oh shit! -[Jay] Oh shit. 823 00:50:57,180 --> 00:50:58,556 -[chuckling] -Guys, help! 824 00:50:58,765 --> 00:51:01,267 -Hold this. - I got distracted by the sheep. 825 00:51:02,477 --> 00:51:04,354 -[chuckling] -[Austin] You got a paddle? 826 00:51:04,562 --> 00:51:07,565 -He doesn't have a paddle! -[Heather screaming] 827 00:51:07,774 --> 00:51:09,359 He's-- he's gonna rev, Jay! 828 00:51:09,567 --> 00:51:12,278 [laughing] 829 00:51:13,321 --> 00:51:15,448 [Filipe] He doesn't know how to paddle. 830 00:51:15,657 --> 00:51:17,784 He's never steered before! 831 00:51:21,704 --> 00:51:24,207 [gentle music] 832 00:51:26,376 --> 00:51:28,127 [Jay] This environment on the river, 833 00:51:28,336 --> 00:51:30,255 Austin's just had a lot of experience 834 00:51:30,463 --> 00:51:34,384 and so he really knows how to like pace the group, 835 00:51:34,592 --> 00:51:37,554 he knows how to run rapids, he knows how to scale. 836 00:51:37,762 --> 00:51:40,807 That was a new part of Austin that we hadn't seen previously. 837 00:51:42,517 --> 00:51:45,019 This is a first class 3 that we've seen 838 00:51:45,228 --> 00:51:46,396 this entire time out here. 839 00:51:48,356 --> 00:51:51,359 We've got our rescue line ready 840 00:51:51,568 --> 00:51:56,114 in case he flips and has to bend his boat. 841 00:51:56,322 --> 00:51:57,156 Here we go. 842 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,203 Slight tip to the right. Bow to the right. 843 00:52:02,412 --> 00:52:03,830 Wooh! 844 00:52:05,540 --> 00:52:06,749 [Heather] No thanks. 845 00:52:06,958 --> 00:52:08,126 Alright, I'm up. 846 00:52:09,544 --> 00:52:11,671 Paddle hard, take chances, y'all! 847 00:52:11,879 --> 00:52:13,256 [Austin cheering] 848 00:52:13,464 --> 00:52:14,757 [upbeat music] 849 00:52:14,966 --> 00:52:16,384 Yeah. Yeah. 850 00:52:16,593 --> 00:52:18,511 [Filipe] You guys are making' this look easy. 851 00:52:19,721 --> 00:52:22,181 -[Heather] Jay, come on! -[cheering] 852 00:52:22,390 --> 00:52:24,183 [Austin] Stream it up, stream it up, stream it up, stream it up! 853 00:52:24,392 --> 00:52:26,603 [cheering] 854 00:52:26,811 --> 00:52:28,730 Yeah, that was great. I loved it. 855 00:52:28,938 --> 00:52:31,065 Alright, everybody else nailed it. 856 00:52:31,274 --> 00:52:33,401 So uh, we gotta have one spill, right? 857 00:52:33,610 --> 00:52:35,069 [Filipe] Oh my god. 858 00:52:35,278 --> 00:52:38,656 -[Filipe] Oh no! -[all yelling] 859 00:52:39,866 --> 00:52:41,367 [cheering] 860 00:52:41,576 --> 00:52:43,411 [Heather] That's it, that's it, that's it. 861 00:52:45,413 --> 00:52:47,290 [laughing] 862 00:52:47,498 --> 00:52:48,875 [Austin] You lucky son of a bitch! 863 00:52:50,251 --> 00:52:52,420 Hey, I tried to make it interesting for you! 864 00:53:02,555 --> 00:53:05,433 [Heather] People are not thinking of this area 865 00:53:06,559 --> 00:53:08,478 when they're picturing the border 866 00:53:08,686 --> 00:53:12,106 and building a border wall. 867 00:53:12,315 --> 00:53:14,609 I think they're thinking of the cities. 868 00:53:18,488 --> 00:53:20,615 It's this wild place that's super rugged 869 00:53:20,823 --> 00:53:22,700 and hard to get through anyway. 870 00:53:24,535 --> 00:53:27,789 Why would we construct a barrier there? 871 00:53:27,997 --> 00:53:29,248 A man made barrier. 872 00:53:32,377 --> 00:53:36,214 This is like going through the Grand Canyon, 873 00:53:36,422 --> 00:53:40,176 paddling the Colorado without the crowds. 874 00:53:40,385 --> 00:53:46,349 It's just as-- as remote, and grand, and wild. 875 00:54:03,741 --> 00:54:06,202 [birds chirping] 876 00:54:23,386 --> 00:54:27,181 [Austin] One of my biggest joys is that I get to show people 877 00:54:27,390 --> 00:54:29,308 what I love, and that's the Rio Grande. 878 00:54:31,728 --> 00:54:36,441 The first time it impacted me was when I came here in college. 879 00:54:36,649 --> 00:54:40,737 Uh, I was actually coming here to train to be a river guide 880 00:54:40,945 --> 00:54:44,657 and the first trip I ever did was Dark Canyon, 881 00:54:44,866 --> 00:54:46,367 which is a short, but tall canyon. 882 00:54:46,576 --> 00:54:48,411 Short in length, tall in height canyon 883 00:54:48,619 --> 00:54:50,204 in the State Park. 884 00:54:50,413 --> 00:54:52,874 And I fell in love with what's easy to fall in love with 885 00:54:53,082 --> 00:54:55,918 you know, beauty, the grandness, the-- the just 886 00:54:56,127 --> 00:55:00,423 total uh, magnificence of the Rio Grande. 887 00:55:00,631 --> 00:55:02,592 And then the more I explored, the more I just, 888 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,803 for lack of better words, was wowed! 889 00:55:06,012 --> 00:55:09,932 [epic music] 890 00:55:36,042 --> 00:55:37,877 And lately I've been thinking about how... 891 00:55:39,545 --> 00:55:42,840 I got into this whole outdoor recreation industry 892 00:55:44,425 --> 00:55:45,968 for a lot of reasons and one of which-- 893 00:55:46,177 --> 00:55:49,472 Which-- that I've never really admitted to myself 894 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,725 is I've grown up as the child of illegal immigrants. 895 00:55:52,934 --> 00:55:56,229 Status is a really big thing 896 00:55:56,437 --> 00:55:58,606 as much-- you know, |-- My parents are really proud. 897 00:55:58,815 --> 00:56:01,275 They-- they taught me that you know, you-- 898 00:56:01,484 --> 00:56:03,986 You work for everything you have and you-- 899 00:56:04,195 --> 00:56:07,615 You don't ask for things, you earn things. 900 00:56:08,950 --> 00:56:11,786 But I'd be lying to tell you that as a child of an-- 901 00:56:11,994 --> 00:56:13,371 Of illegal immigrants, 902 00:56:14,455 --> 00:56:15,957 status was in-- in the back of my head. 903 00:56:16,165 --> 00:56:17,834 And it-- it sounds awful and I hate to admit it, 904 00:56:18,042 --> 00:56:20,670 but it has been. 905 00:56:20,878 --> 00:56:22,463 Like why couldn't my parents learn English? 906 00:56:24,674 --> 00:56:29,345 Why couldn't they know how the school system worked? 907 00:56:30,471 --> 00:56:31,347 I just didn't understand. 908 00:56:31,556 --> 00:56:32,932 I was angry, I was mad. 909 00:56:35,059 --> 00:56:37,895 And the outdoors, the Rio Grande, 910 00:56:38,104 --> 00:56:41,858 that's somewhere where status doesn't matter, you know? 911 00:56:42,066 --> 00:56:44,777 It is a true level playing field. 912 00:56:46,904 --> 00:56:48,030 And I find that... 913 00:56:50,950 --> 00:56:52,702 my connection to the Rio Grande, 914 00:56:52,910 --> 00:56:56,539 my connection to the Big Bend is really founded on that. 915 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,629 It's such an equalizer. 916 00:57:12,930 --> 00:57:14,765 Alright, so this is where we have to figure out 917 00:57:14,974 --> 00:57:17,059 where we wanna pull it to the right 918 00:57:17,268 --> 00:57:19,061 around this penile crap right here, 919 00:57:19,270 --> 00:57:20,396 which we wanna avoid, 920 00:57:20,605 --> 00:57:21,981 or run the shoot on the left side 921 00:57:22,189 --> 00:57:23,649 down the actual Madison Falls. 922 00:57:26,652 --> 00:57:28,696 I don't know how the hell-- I mean I'm-- 923 00:57:28,905 --> 00:57:31,407 Don't know what I'm doing regardless, but I don't know how you would 924 00:57:31,616 --> 00:57:34,744 -do this in a canoe. -[Heather indistinct] 925 00:57:34,952 --> 00:57:38,414 Yeah, like how is it like-- This is only a Kayak City, right? 926 00:57:38,623 --> 00:57:39,874 [indistinct] 927 00:57:43,878 --> 00:57:45,630 [Jay] Oh gosh! See, that's-- 928 00:57:45,838 --> 00:57:47,590 -[Ben] Oh shit. -[Heather] Oh shit. 929 00:57:47,798 --> 00:57:48,799 [Jay] Oh. 930 00:57:49,842 --> 00:57:52,094 Oh! 931 00:57:57,016 --> 00:57:59,018 [Filipe] See, that's what I was worried about. Yeah. 932 00:58:02,146 --> 00:58:04,649 Ben, are you going? Are you still going'? 933 00:58:04,857 --> 00:58:05,942 [Ben laughing] 934 00:58:06,150 --> 00:58:07,818 -[Filipe] Yeah! -[Austin] Yeah! 935 00:58:08,027 --> 00:58:09,195 -[cheering] -[Filipe] Yeah. 936 00:58:11,864 --> 00:58:14,575 Spin yourself before you back yourself in. 937 00:58:14,784 --> 00:58:18,412 -[Filipe] Get it straight on! Go on! Stay left. -[Jay] Stay left! Go high! 938 00:58:18,621 --> 00:58:20,623 -[Jay] He's hit it. -[Filipe] No, he's got it, he's got it! 939 00:58:20,831 --> 00:58:22,792 -[Filipe] Oh! -[Jay] Oh shit. 940 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:23,918 [Jay] He's stuck. 941 00:58:24,919 --> 00:58:26,879 [Filipe] Ben, don't get caught underneath! 942 00:58:33,052 --> 00:58:34,220 [grunting] 943 00:58:38,099 --> 00:58:39,684 [grunting] 944 00:58:39,892 --> 00:58:41,018 I can't move it! 945 00:58:42,937 --> 00:58:44,981 [Austin] Can we get on that corner? Hang up, hang up, hang up! 946 00:58:45,189 --> 00:58:46,232 Stop, stop. 947 00:58:51,612 --> 00:58:52,655 [Austin] On the count of three. 948 00:58:52,863 --> 00:58:55,741 One, two, three. 949 00:58:55,950 --> 00:58:57,451 [grunting] 950 00:58:57,660 --> 00:58:58,911 -[grunts] -[Austin] Let it go, let it go. 951 00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,080 [Jay] Okay, let it go, let it go, let it go, let it go. 952 00:59:01,288 --> 00:59:02,999 -[Heather] Watch out, watch out. -[Filipe] Watch out, JK! 953 00:59:03,207 --> 00:59:04,500 [Jay] You want me to get in it? 954 00:59:04,709 --> 00:59:05,751 [Austin] What, oh no, no! 955 00:59:16,095 --> 00:59:17,847 [Heather] Oh man. 956 00:59:18,055 --> 00:59:19,515 [Ben] Well. 957 00:59:19,724 --> 00:59:23,019 [Austin] Oh, no. It's already taking in water. 958 00:59:23,227 --> 00:59:25,104 [grunting] 959 00:59:25,312 --> 00:59:27,648 [Austin] Oh, ho, ho, ho. 960 00:59:30,776 --> 00:59:32,778 [Heather] Come on, Jay, come on, Jay. 961 00:59:32,987 --> 00:59:35,781 [indistinct yelling] 962 00:59:35,990 --> 00:59:37,033 [Austin yells] 963 00:59:41,620 --> 00:59:43,080 [high pitched tone] 964 00:59:43,289 --> 00:59:44,874 [Heather] That looked kinda scary. 965 00:59:51,255 --> 00:59:52,631 [Heather] Fell. 966 01:00:12,943 --> 01:00:14,320 [Austin] Two, and three. 967 01:00:16,363 --> 01:00:18,032 [Filipe] There goes the bag. There goes the bag. 968 01:00:21,368 --> 01:00:23,204 [ominous music] 969 01:00:34,799 --> 01:00:37,009 [campfire] 970 01:00:38,385 --> 01:00:41,222 [Jay] I don't know, I feel-- I feel good. I feel like everybody's 971 01:00:41,430 --> 01:00:42,723 had a little bit of a wake up call 972 01:00:42,932 --> 01:00:44,809 and uh, we should have a good day 973 01:00:45,017 --> 01:00:47,186 today, hopefully stay dry. 974 01:00:47,394 --> 01:00:51,649 [Ben] The weather forecast is calling for lows in the low 20s 975 01:00:51,857 --> 01:00:54,610 with 20 to 30 mile per hour north winds 976 01:00:54,819 --> 01:00:56,529 with gusts up to 40. 977 01:00:56,737 --> 01:00:58,239 That is our tailwind. 978 01:00:58,447 --> 01:01:01,742 So, we're getting to make lemonade 979 01:01:01,951 --> 01:01:04,078 out of these weather lemons. 980 01:01:04,286 --> 01:01:06,539 [bird chirping] 981 01:01:06,747 --> 01:01:07,748 -[Jay] Good one. -[chuckling] 982 01:01:07,957 --> 01:01:10,292 You had time for the-- 983 01:01:10,501 --> 01:01:12,670 -For the thing to make time for. -[Ben] Yeah, make time for you. 984 01:01:12,878 --> 01:01:14,255 [Jay] Yeah. 985 01:01:14,463 --> 01:01:16,632 [Ben] It's not ideal, but it's the way that it is. 986 01:01:16,841 --> 01:01:18,717 [smooth drum brushes] 987 01:01:22,930 --> 01:01:25,558 [banjo music] 988 01:01:25,766 --> 01:01:27,685 So we've been paddling for 30-plus miles now 989 01:01:27,893 --> 01:01:30,980 and we're entering the main body of Lake Am is tad. 990 01:01:31,188 --> 01:01:32,815 ♪ I've lived without bread ♪ 991 01:01:33,023 --> 01:01:35,609 ♪ And I've lived without water ♪ 992 01:01:35,818 --> 01:01:37,695 ♪ Stuck outside the middle Of the desert ♪ 993 01:01:37,903 --> 01:01:39,738 ♪ Wishing I was home ♪ 994 01:01:39,947 --> 01:01:41,740 ♪ Long way from nowhere ♪ 995 01:01:41,949 --> 01:01:43,701 ♪ Wishing I was somewhere ♪ 996 01:01:43,909 --> 01:01:45,744 ♪ Sangre de Cristo ♪ 997 01:01:45,953 --> 01:01:47,705 ♪ To the Devil's Backbone ♪ 998 01:01:47,913 --> 01:01:50,249 [upbeat music] 999 01:01:53,711 --> 01:01:55,337 We're doing just great! 1000 01:01:55,546 --> 01:01:57,173 Hey, Heather! 1001 01:01:57,381 --> 01:01:58,132 -Only-- -Howdy, Ben. 1002 01:01:58,340 --> 01:01:59,842 Only 12 more miles 1003 01:02:00,050 --> 01:02:03,179 -directly into the headwind. -[Heather chuckling] 1004 01:02:03,387 --> 01:02:07,016 Twelve more miles to get some white caps on the lake, 1005 01:02:07,224 --> 01:02:09,059 but the sun is out today. 1006 01:02:09,268 --> 01:02:11,020 ♪ In the back of a Ranchero ♪ 1007 01:02:11,228 --> 01:02:13,147 ♪ I rode down to Laredo ♪ 1008 01:02:13,355 --> 01:02:15,191 ♪ Had a good time at the La Posada ♪ 1009 01:02:15,399 --> 01:02:17,276 ♪ Yeah, you know I was left alone ♪ 1010 01:02:17,484 --> 01:02:19,737 ♪ On a rig out of El Paso ♪ 1011 01:02:19,945 --> 01:02:21,947 ♪ Raining' down in Houston ♪ 1012 01:02:22,156 --> 01:02:23,824 ♪ Told the truck driver Put the pedal to the metal ♪ 1013 01:02:24,033 --> 01:02:25,367 ♪ "Cause Houston gets me down ♪ 1014 01:02:25,576 --> 01:02:27,870 ♪ On down to Louisiana ♪ 1015 01:02:28,078 --> 01:02:30,206 ♪ Whiskey River Landing ♪ 1016 01:02:30,414 --> 01:02:32,166 ♪ Craw-fish pie And eat jambalaya ♪ 1017 01:02:32,374 --> 01:02:34,043 ♪ With a big old coonass smile ♪ 1018 01:02:34,251 --> 01:02:35,961 [upbeat music] 1019 01:02:36,170 --> 01:02:38,214 [cheering] 1020 01:02:38,422 --> 01:02:41,050 [cheering] 1021 01:02:45,387 --> 01:02:48,641 [cheering and laughing] 1022 01:02:48,849 --> 01:02:50,309 [Ben] We are now done with the Canyon Country 1023 01:02:50,517 --> 01:02:52,144 and Lake Am is tad. 1024 01:02:52,353 --> 01:02:55,397 The terrain here flattens out, there's more people, 1025 01:02:55,606 --> 01:03:00,069 and a border wall already exists along most of the towns and cities. 1026 01:03:00,277 --> 01:03:02,363 But the open country doesn't have a wall yet. 1027 01:03:02,571 --> 01:03:04,907 So we met up with rancher Steve Lamantia 1028 01:03:05,115 --> 01:03:07,284 to see how it will affect his operation. 1029 01:03:07,493 --> 01:03:11,205 Water in-- in this part of the country is life. 1030 01:03:11,413 --> 01:03:13,123 So water is very important to us. 1031 01:03:13,332 --> 01:03:15,417 Without the water, we-- we can't operate. 1032 01:03:15,626 --> 01:03:17,795 My name is Steve Lamantia. 1033 01:03:18,003 --> 01:03:21,257 [Steve] I am in charge of the ranch operation. 1034 01:03:21,465 --> 01:03:25,302 Basically been on the river or on the border my whole life. 1035 01:03:25,511 --> 01:03:29,306 But for the longest time we always considered Mexico 1036 01:03:29,515 --> 01:03:33,435 and the US as one. And no division uh, because there was 1037 01:03:33,644 --> 01:03:36,855 such a fluid movement of people back and forth. 1038 01:03:37,064 --> 01:03:40,109 My wife and I-- my children grew up with kids 1039 01:03:40,317 --> 01:03:42,403 from Mexico when going back and forth to Mexico 1040 01:03:42,611 --> 01:03:44,405 was like going' across the street. 1041 01:03:46,073 --> 01:03:48,284 People don't really understand the border, I think, 1042 01:03:48,492 --> 01:03:50,744 that are-- that are-- that are talking about it. 1043 01:03:50,953 --> 01:03:53,539 They don't take the time to come down here and look at it. 1044 01:03:54,498 --> 01:03:57,209 So did you know that Border Patrol was down here? 1045 01:03:57,418 --> 01:03:59,169 No, they have-- I give 'em open access. 1046 01:03:59,378 --> 01:04:01,297 They-- they-- they built the ramp 1047 01:04:01,505 --> 01:04:03,132 -and part of the deal was-- -Oh. 1048 01:04:03,340 --> 01:04:06,927 Them building the ramp was they can use it whenever. 1049 01:04:07,136 --> 01:04:10,014 The landowners are in favor of additional border security. 1050 01:04:11,181 --> 01:04:17,021 A physical wall does not accomplish border security in my opinion. 1051 01:04:17,229 --> 01:04:20,316 We don't want the federal government taking our land, obviously. 1052 01:04:20,524 --> 01:04:23,861 I think most of the landowners will fight it tooth and nail 1053 01:04:24,069 --> 01:04:27,114 besides of the fact that you are taking 1054 01:04:27,323 --> 01:04:31,910 very independently mind-- minded landowners 1055 01:04:32,119 --> 01:04:33,245 and it's a land grab. 1056 01:04:33,454 --> 01:04:34,955 They are taking their land away from 'em 1057 01:04:35,164 --> 01:04:38,000 and they don't have the right to say no. 1058 01:04:38,208 --> 01:04:41,170 Uh, and that's gonna leave a very poor taste in the mouths 1059 01:04:41,378 --> 01:04:42,838 of a lot of people on this river. 1060 01:04:43,047 --> 01:04:48,969 So basically, from within about 400 miles upriver 1061 01:04:49,178 --> 01:04:52,181 of the Gulf of Mexico, the uh-- the communities 1062 01:04:52,389 --> 01:04:55,893 on both sides of the border rely on the Rio Grande river 1063 01:04:56,101 --> 01:05:00,105 for agricultural and residential use. 1064 01:05:00,314 --> 01:05:01,148 [Steve] No question. 1065 01:05:05,652 --> 01:05:08,280 So you're saying it may not be a good idea 1066 01:05:08,489 --> 01:05:11,533 to wall ourselves away from the only good water in the desert? 1067 01:05:11,742 --> 01:05:13,202 That would be a pretty good assessment. 1068 01:05:13,410 --> 01:05:15,037 -Okay, good. -[laughing] 1069 01:05:17,664 --> 01:05:22,544 [Steve] There is a-- a labor pool here that is not being satisfied 1070 01:05:22,753 --> 01:05:25,047 and can be satisfied by immigrants 1071 01:05:25,255 --> 01:05:26,882 coming to this country, 1072 01:05:27,091 --> 01:05:31,887 which has happened for 250 years. 1073 01:05:32,096 --> 01:05:35,057 If that is happening, which I think is happening right now, 1074 01:05:35,265 --> 01:05:38,018 then I see no reason why it shouldn't continue 1075 01:05:38,227 --> 01:05:41,230 and I see no reason why those people need 1076 01:05:41,438 --> 01:05:43,065 to be here under the radar. 1077 01:05:43,273 --> 01:05:45,442 And maybe I'm not smart enough to understand the problem, 1078 01:05:45,651 --> 01:05:47,361 but if there is a need for the labor, 1079 01:05:47,569 --> 01:05:49,988 and they come over here and they are working 1080 01:05:51,031 --> 01:05:54,159 and holding down a job, then why sh-- 1081 01:05:54,368 --> 01:05:55,327 Why don't we want "em? 1082 01:05:58,705 --> 01:06:02,084 [Victoria] In the 1940s, as a result of World War 2, 1083 01:06:02,292 --> 01:06:05,421 we had a system called the Bracero Program 1084 01:06:05,629 --> 01:06:09,091 where Mexican farm laborers were coming over, 1085 01:06:09,299 --> 01:06:11,093 and they were working in American fields 1086 01:06:11,301 --> 01:06:14,930 while uh, our US men were abroad fighting in Europe 1087 01:06:15,139 --> 01:06:17,933 and our American women were in-- in factories. 1088 01:06:18,684 --> 01:06:22,855 [narrator on the TV] The fact is we still don't have enough seasonal domestic labor 1089 01:06:23,063 --> 01:06:24,523 willing to do this kind of work. 1090 01:06:24,731 --> 01:06:29,445 In 1965, the Bracero Program officially ends. 1091 01:06:29,653 --> 01:06:31,530 But that doesn't mean that these patterns 1092 01:06:31,738 --> 01:06:33,949 that were established, end. 1093 01:06:34,158 --> 01:06:37,369 So the agricultural interest kept asking for the labor 1094 01:06:37,578 --> 01:06:39,371 and the labor kept coming. 1095 01:06:41,081 --> 01:06:44,001 This bill is the most comprehensive reform 1096 01:06:44,209 --> 01:06:46,712 of our immigration law since 1952. 1097 01:06:51,550 --> 01:06:54,511 Including employer sanctions, other measures 1098 01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,222 to increase enforcement of the immigration laws 1099 01:06:57,431 --> 01:06:58,474 and legalization. 1100 01:07:03,270 --> 01:07:06,273 What happened was that the key component 1101 01:07:06,482 --> 01:07:09,151 of employer sanction was never put into place. 1102 01:07:09,359 --> 01:07:13,155 It was illegal, but everybody you know, wink, wink, nod, nod, 1103 01:07:13,363 --> 01:07:14,490 this is going on. 1104 01:07:16,116 --> 01:07:18,327 Fast-forward to the early 1990s, 1105 01:07:18,535 --> 01:07:20,329 immigration becomes a flash point. 1106 01:07:20,537 --> 01:07:24,124 There is too much of it and we must do much more to stop it. 1107 01:07:24,333 --> 01:07:26,251 [Victoria] And at this point we see what we know 1108 01:07:26,460 --> 01:07:29,254 as the modern-day border infrastructure, 1109 01:07:32,090 --> 01:07:35,052 not just physically, but also in terms of personnel. 1110 01:07:36,428 --> 01:07:38,388 As a result it was harder for immigrants 1111 01:07:38,597 --> 01:07:39,681 to go back and forth. 1112 01:07:40,807 --> 01:07:43,101 And once they were there, they weren't going to leave, 1113 01:07:43,310 --> 01:07:44,686 because again, every year 1114 01:07:44,895 --> 01:07:46,772 the border got harder and harder to cross. 1115 01:07:49,483 --> 01:07:51,527 So now, we have this larger permanent 1116 01:07:51,735 --> 01:07:54,780 undocumented population in the United States. 1117 01:08:08,168 --> 01:08:11,255 This is the first wall we've seen since just outside of El Paso. 1118 01:08:12,839 --> 01:08:15,259 The wall that's right there, 1119 01:08:15,467 --> 01:08:17,970 that was built under Secure Fence Act 1120 01:08:18,178 --> 01:08:20,138 during the Bush administration, so it's probably-- 1121 01:08:21,265 --> 01:08:23,308 Probably 10 years old now. 1122 01:08:23,517 --> 01:08:26,061 And the wall that they are calling for, 1123 01:08:26,270 --> 01:08:27,729 that President Trump wants to build 1124 01:08:27,938 --> 01:08:32,234 is gonna be probably 10 feet higher than that. 1125 01:08:32,442 --> 01:08:35,279 Solid concrete, so you wouldn't be able to look through it. 1126 01:08:35,487 --> 01:08:38,115 And then also it'd have these massive flood lights 1127 01:08:38,323 --> 01:08:43,120 that look into the river and along. 1128 01:08:43,328 --> 01:08:45,247 And then they would clear out all the brush, 1129 01:08:45,455 --> 01:08:47,708 and all the vegetation, and trees. 1130 01:08:51,128 --> 01:08:52,588 [Filipe] One of the things that's unfortunate, 1131 01:08:52,796 --> 01:08:55,215 that we've noticed, this is Mexico on our right, 1132 01:08:55,424 --> 01:08:57,467 this is the US on our left, 1133 01:08:57,676 --> 01:09:00,721 and we have forfeited all this land 1134 01:09:00,929 --> 01:09:02,598 to become no-man's land, 1135 01:09:02,806 --> 01:09:05,517 which means that nobody from the US side 1136 01:09:05,726 --> 01:09:08,562 is enjoying this river right now except for us. 1137 01:09:08,770 --> 01:09:12,190 And all the Mexican side is fishing, throwing parties, 1138 01:09:12,399 --> 01:09:14,109 you can hear people playing soccer, 1139 01:09:14,318 --> 01:09:17,112 families are out walking around enjoying the river, 1140 01:09:17,321 --> 01:09:19,698 and it's obviously very much a part of life 1141 01:09:19,906 --> 01:09:22,492 in this section of the Rio Grande. 1142 01:09:22,701 --> 01:09:26,580 And how sad is that? Nobody from the US side 1143 01:09:26,788 --> 01:09:29,374 can enjoy this beautiful pristine river right now. 1144 01:09:29,583 --> 01:09:33,545 A wall completely deters any recreational activity 1145 01:09:33,754 --> 01:09:35,464 from the Rio in this stretch. 1146 01:09:42,429 --> 01:09:43,639 [Filipe] Get a little bit closer. 1147 01:09:43,847 --> 01:09:45,223 [Austin] Okay. 1148 01:09:48,435 --> 01:09:50,646 [Filipe] Growing up an illegal immigrant, 1149 01:09:50,854 --> 01:09:52,856 every single day you live in fear. 1150 01:09:54,274 --> 01:09:57,110 You feel that your options are limited, 1151 01:09:57,319 --> 01:09:59,446 that there are so many things stacked against you 1152 01:09:59,655 --> 01:10:01,782 that you can never outgrow your environment. 1153 01:10:01,990 --> 01:10:05,160 And therefore, this situation that you're in 1154 01:10:05,369 --> 01:10:06,495 will always remain. 1155 01:10:08,789 --> 01:10:11,583 But because of our financial status, 1156 01:10:11,792 --> 01:10:13,543 not having a lot of money, 1157 01:10:13,752 --> 01:10:15,337 when my mom would tell us to go do something, 1158 01:10:15,545 --> 01:10:16,880 it was: "Get the hell outside”. 1159 01:10:22,928 --> 01:10:25,263 Doesn't cost anything to go run around outside, 1160 01:10:25,472 --> 01:10:27,599 to go get lost in the woods, to climb a tree, 1161 01:10:27,808 --> 01:10:29,267 to go look for animals. 1162 01:10:33,605 --> 01:10:35,315 The natural world saved me. 1163 01:10:39,695 --> 01:10:42,656 So becoming a wildlife photographer 1164 01:10:42,864 --> 01:10:45,242 and working with National Geographic 1165 01:10:45,450 --> 01:10:47,285 was my goal in life. 1166 01:10:49,579 --> 01:10:51,832 [host] So Nat Geo's Geoff Daniels here. Nat Geo, come on up. 1167 01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:55,335 -[Crowd cheering] -To announce the Wild to Inspire-- 1168 01:10:55,544 --> 01:10:58,380 -Wild to Inspire winner. -There you go, guys, there you go. 1169 01:10:58,588 --> 01:11:02,843 But the winner for the 2nd annual Wild to Inspire competition 1170 01:11:03,051 --> 01:11:06,221 -is Filipe DeAndrade! -[cheering] 1171 01:11:06,430 --> 01:11:08,473 [host] Up! Filipe, come on up. 1172 01:11:08,682 --> 01:11:09,808 [cheering] 1173 01:11:10,016 --> 01:11:11,810 [host 2] come up, Filipe, come on, man. 1174 01:11:12,018 --> 01:11:14,604 [Filipe] Whether it be through photography, video, 1175 01:11:14,813 --> 01:11:16,481 everything that I do comes back 1176 01:11:16,690 --> 01:11:18,817 to making the world a better place for animals. 1177 01:11:20,527 --> 01:11:22,696 [Filipe] I have to thank my mom, because for everything-- 1178 01:11:22,904 --> 01:11:25,782 -[Crowd cheering] -For everything that we've been through 1179 01:11:25,991 --> 01:11:28,577 as immigrants, abuse, coming over here, 1180 01:11:28,785 --> 01:11:30,787 struggle, every single thing. 1181 01:11:30,996 --> 01:11:33,790 You fought--- you fought for what you loved. 1182 01:11:33,999 --> 01:11:35,709 [crowd cheering] 1183 01:11:40,380 --> 01:11:42,841 [Filipe] I'm so grateful that she brought us here, 1184 01:11:44,801 --> 01:11:46,178 and that I get to travel the world 1185 01:11:46,386 --> 01:11:47,888 and talk about what I love. 1186 01:11:49,681 --> 01:11:52,350 My mom is by far and large my greatest-- 1187 01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:58,023 My greatest example in life. 1188 01:11:59,608 --> 01:12:01,526 [Filipe] When she became a citizen, 1189 01:12:01,735 --> 01:12:03,361 I asked her: "What do you wanna do?" 1190 01:12:03,570 --> 01:12:05,781 And she said: "I wanna be a nurse at the VA. 1191 01:12:05,989 --> 01:12:10,911 I wanna take care of veterans who took care of us, 1192 01:12:11,119 --> 01:12:15,332 and that is my contribution to the country that I am now a citizen in." 1193 01:12:15,540 --> 01:12:17,626 And that makes me so damn proud. 1194 01:12:34,976 --> 01:12:36,436 -[Austin] There it is. -[Jay] Wow! 1195 01:12:45,028 --> 01:12:46,071 Wow! 1196 01:12:47,906 --> 01:12:49,574 There are so many. 1197 01:12:51,910 --> 01:12:53,370 -What's up, Stevie? -How are you? 1198 01:12:53,578 --> 01:12:54,996 [Austin] Good, man! 1199 01:12:55,205 --> 01:12:56,456 -[Ben] Nice to meet you. -Stevie Sauer. 1200 01:12:56,665 --> 01:12:57,916 Yeah, Ben Masters. 1201 01:13:00,627 --> 01:13:03,463 We hadn't like gotten to talk to anybody on the camera. 1202 01:13:03,672 --> 01:13:05,340 -[Stevie] Alright. -Alright, can you do that? 1203 01:13:05,549 --> 01:13:07,467 So the only reason I can do that is 'cause I'm-- 1204 01:13:07,676 --> 01:13:10,595 Uh, I told you uh, I'm with the Union 1205 01:13:10,804 --> 01:13:14,015 of Del Rio Sector. So on behalf of the Union, I'm talking to you. 1206 01:13:14,224 --> 01:13:16,393 [Stevie] I've been in Border Patrol for nine and a half years. 1207 01:13:17,143 --> 01:13:20,689 I am a Executive Vice President for Del Rio Sector Union. 1208 01:13:21,690 --> 01:13:23,942 If we put a wall up from sea to shining sea, 1209 01:13:24,150 --> 01:13:25,694 people are still gonna cross it. 1210 01:13:25,902 --> 01:13:27,028 I've been detailed to Nogales, 1211 01:13:27,237 --> 01:13:29,698 and there's a wall through downtown Nogales, 1212 01:13:29,906 --> 01:13:32,742 and people cross it, go over it, go through it. 1213 01:13:32,951 --> 01:13:35,579 There's more damage that's done to a wall you know, 1214 01:13:35,787 --> 01:13:37,873 with just the will power. People just trying to get across. 1215 01:13:38,081 --> 01:13:42,294 Do you think it's something that if it doesn't happen 1216 01:13:42,502 --> 01:13:45,630 in the next three years, will continue 1217 01:13:45,839 --> 01:13:48,717 to be raised as a potential solution? 1218 01:13:48,925 --> 01:13:51,011 The wall's always gonna be a topic of discussion. 1219 01:13:51,219 --> 01:13:52,804 [Stevie] I think it's always gonna be continued 1220 01:13:53,013 --> 01:13:55,807 to be raised as a deterrent of guys crossing. 1221 01:13:56,016 --> 01:13:59,477 They're not a solution to the immigration problems, 1222 01:14:00,437 --> 01:14:02,856 because there is-- there is more than just a wall to fix it. 1223 01:14:03,064 --> 01:14:05,567 If-- if you've got ants coming inside your house, 1224 01:14:05,775 --> 01:14:06,735 we've already got walls, you know. 1225 01:14:06,943 --> 01:14:08,403 They're finding a way to get in. 1226 01:14:08,612 --> 01:14:10,363 So we've gotta-- we've gotta find out 1227 01:14:10,572 --> 01:14:11,948 the solution and what that is. 1228 01:14:12,157 --> 01:14:13,867 Do you fix it with technology? Do you fix it with more-- 1229 01:14:14,075 --> 01:14:14,826 More boots on the ground? 1230 01:14:15,035 --> 01:14:16,369 Do you-- 1231 01:14:16,578 --> 01:14:18,038 In your opinion w-- what-- what's-- 1232 01:14:18,246 --> 01:14:20,832 What's the solution with-- with response time? 1233 01:14:21,041 --> 01:14:22,751 Uh, you can have all the technology you need, 1234 01:14:22,959 --> 01:14:25,795 but if you don't have anybody to put handcuffs on anybody 1235 01:14:26,004 --> 01:14:27,756 or to question them as far as the alien, there isn't-- 1236 01:14:29,215 --> 01:14:31,760 The technology is great, because we detected 'em, 1237 01:14:31,968 --> 01:14:34,429 but we didn't have anybody to arrest 'em. 1238 01:14:34,638 --> 01:14:38,600 Have you noticed a drop-off or an increase in people 1239 01:14:38,808 --> 01:14:40,018 coming over to the US? 1240 01:14:40,226 --> 01:14:42,938 The numbers are down, have decreased. Yeah. 1241 01:14:43,146 --> 01:14:44,397 [Filipe] Significantly or you know like-- 1242 01:14:44,606 --> 01:14:45,690 -Significantly. -Really? 1243 01:15:33,822 --> 01:15:35,407 Just had a little spin out. 1244 01:15:35,615 --> 01:15:36,241 They're showing' off there. 1245 01:15:37,242 --> 01:15:38,118 [crew member] They definitely... 1246 01:15:39,661 --> 01:15:41,454 made themselves known. 1247 01:15:41,663 --> 01:15:45,000 Absolutely, you can hear them from a mile away. 1248 01:15:45,208 --> 01:15:47,836 -[cheering] -[speaking in Spanish] 1249 01:15:48,044 --> 01:15:49,504 -[cheering] -[Austin] Oh my gosh, 1250 01:15:49,713 --> 01:15:50,922 is that a catfish? 1251 01:15:51,131 --> 01:15:52,173 That's probably like a 40-- 1252 01:15:52,382 --> 01:15:54,175 oh my gosh, both of those! 1253 01:15:55,260 --> 01:15:56,886 Hello! How much do they weigh? 1254 01:15:57,929 --> 01:15:59,097 Eight each! 1255 01:16:00,890 --> 01:16:02,392 Wow! The big one! 1256 01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:03,685 How long have you been here? 1257 01:16:04,936 --> 01:16:06,062 Just a day! 1258 01:16:06,271 --> 01:16:07,689 Just a day fishing for those? 1259 01:16:09,024 --> 01:16:12,402 We are bad fishermen. 1260 01:16:13,611 --> 01:16:14,821 [laughing] 1261 01:16:16,156 --> 01:16:17,115 [Ben] Wow! 1262 01:16:17,323 --> 01:16:18,700 [Mexican music playing] 1263 01:16:19,075 --> 01:16:20,702 This is our work. 1264 01:16:21,786 --> 01:16:24,205 We bring them to the Piedras Negras fish markets. 1265 01:16:24,998 --> 01:16:27,208 Do you want to eat... 1266 01:16:27,417 --> 01:16:29,127 "fish of the cat"? 1267 01:16:29,794 --> 01:16:30,962 [speaking Spanish] 1268 01:16:31,171 --> 01:16:32,213 [Ben] Is that catfish? 1269 01:16:32,422 --> 01:16:33,298 It's about right. 1270 01:16:33,715 --> 01:16:37,719 Is it a kind that you only have here? 1271 01:16:38,511 --> 01:16:40,847 The whole river. 1272 01:16:41,056 --> 01:16:42,974 But we don't go fishing over there. 1273 01:16:43,933 --> 01:16:48,229 If they see us over there they'll take us because they think we're wetbacks. 1274 01:16:48,438 --> 01:16:52,942 And you as Mexicans, what do you and your friends think of the wall? 1275 01:16:54,069 --> 01:16:55,945 They'll just fly over it like Superman. 1276 01:16:59,365 --> 01:17:00,909 And have you seen a lot of people crossing here? 1277 01:17:01,117 --> 01:17:02,702 Yes, tons. 1278 01:17:02,911 --> 01:17:04,162 With drugs. 1279 01:17:06,664 --> 01:17:09,125 But the demand for drugs is over there in the US, eh? 1280 01:17:10,001 --> 01:17:11,169 They're not going to stop. 1281 01:17:12,545 --> 01:17:15,381 Be very careful when you get down near Guerrero. 1282 01:17:15,590 --> 01:17:16,591 Yeah, they were telling us that. 1283 01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:18,259 How is it around here? Calm? 1284 01:17:18,468 --> 01:17:21,096 It's calm here - but the Zeta's (cartel) are down there. 1285 01:17:21,304 --> 01:17:22,806 Are they well armed? 1286 01:17:23,014 --> 01:17:23,890 Yes. 1287 01:17:27,644 --> 01:17:30,021 The narcotraficantes in Northern Mexico 1288 01:17:30,230 --> 01:17:33,775 are making roughly-- and this is a conservative number, 1289 01:17:33,983 --> 01:17:38,071 $50 billion. That's almost the equivalent 1290 01:17:38,279 --> 01:17:41,866 of the entire budget for the Intelligence Community 1291 01:17:42,075 --> 01:17:43,076 of the United States of America. 1292 01:17:45,829 --> 01:17:50,083 [Will] To make $50 billion, you're not bringing it in 1293 01:17:50,291 --> 01:17:51,876 you know, in a backpack alone. 1294 01:17:52,085 --> 01:17:54,963 You're bringing it in in significant weights 1295 01:17:55,171 --> 01:17:57,882 and that's happening through um, our ports of entry. 1296 01:18:00,802 --> 01:18:03,972 [Beto] All of this is connected, all of this is correlated. 1297 01:18:04,180 --> 01:18:06,808 If-- if you look at the billions of dollars that we spend 1298 01:18:07,016 --> 01:18:10,061 on consuming illegal drugs in this country, 1299 01:18:11,020 --> 01:18:14,649 we can see the connection between our use of illegal drugs 1300 01:18:14,858 --> 01:18:18,236 uh, the c-- the cartels' bottom line, 1301 01:18:18,444 --> 01:18:20,655 the resources that they can bring to bear 1302 01:18:20,864 --> 01:18:23,575 on hollowing out the civil institutions, 1303 01:18:23,783 --> 01:18:26,661 whether that's the courts, whether that's the-- the press, 1304 01:18:26,870 --> 01:18:28,872 whether that's the-- the police force, 1305 01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:31,166 whether that's their-- their politics. 1306 01:18:32,125 --> 01:18:34,335 Destabilizing that country to such a degree 1307 01:18:34,544 --> 01:18:36,921 that it's hard to argue with somebody 1308 01:18:37,130 --> 01:18:39,340 who would seek to leave it to find a better life 1309 01:18:39,549 --> 01:18:42,719 somewhere else, ironically here in America, 1310 01:18:42,927 --> 01:18:45,346 the country that is in part producing um, 1311 01:18:45,555 --> 01:18:47,807 some of the problems with the consumption of those drugs, 1312 01:18:48,016 --> 01:18:50,727 the flow of cash and arms back into Mexico. 1313 01:18:59,903 --> 01:19:04,324 So against everybody's advice, we are paddling into the night, 1314 01:19:06,910 --> 01:19:08,661 which I'm not too comfortable about 1315 01:19:08,870 --> 01:19:14,667 just because this is a fairly high drug traffic corridor 1316 01:19:14,876 --> 01:19:16,127 of US-Mexico border. 1317 01:19:18,338 --> 01:19:21,883 But we're trying to get to a location 1318 01:19:22,091 --> 01:19:23,801 where we have permission to stay at 1319 01:19:25,011 --> 01:19:26,221 and uh... 1320 01:19:28,848 --> 01:19:30,433 I don't know where everybody else is. 1321 01:19:36,773 --> 01:19:38,024 Like I don't know if they-- 1322 01:19:38,233 --> 01:19:40,902 I don't know if they took a different 1323 01:19:41,110 --> 01:19:43,363 channel of the river, 1324 01:19:43,571 --> 01:19:45,073 if they're in front of me 1325 01:19:46,199 --> 01:19:47,492 or if they're behind me. 1326 01:19:48,493 --> 01:19:50,161 It's kind of a bad time to... 1327 01:19:50,370 --> 01:19:51,162 [sniffles] 1328 01:19:51,371 --> 01:19:52,747 ...get separated. 1329 01:20:09,138 --> 01:20:13,726 -Hey, Heather. -[Austin] So, that's, that's, so the reason why we called you 1330 01:20:13,935 --> 01:20:16,187 there are some concerns about this. One, it's dark, 1331 01:20:16,396 --> 01:20:18,022 do we still cross at the crossing? 1332 01:20:21,234 --> 01:20:22,902 [Heather] I think there's people over on that bank. 1333 01:20:24,153 --> 01:20:25,989 [Austin] It looked like they were carrying bags and stuff. 1334 01:20:26,197 --> 01:20:27,740 [Filipe] Yeah, when we-- when we looked down, 1335 01:20:27,949 --> 01:20:30,243 we saw-- we saw groups of people. 1336 01:20:30,451 --> 01:20:32,120 -[Heather] They were even boats. -[Filipe] 'Cause we thought it was-- 1337 01:20:32,328 --> 01:20:34,122 [Austin] You thought it was Ben. I was about to yell out 1338 01:20:34,330 --> 01:20:36,416 and Jay said: "Hold on, don't say anything.” And he was right. 1339 01:20:36,624 --> 01:20:39,752 It was people over there, definitely not Ben. 1340 01:20:39,961 --> 01:20:44,924 Um, but they were definitely throwing bags of stuff back. 1341 01:20:45,133 --> 01:20:49,887 Border Patrol and everybody that lives on the river said: "Don't do the river at night 1342 01:20:50,096 --> 01:20:51,264 uh, because that's when most people 1343 01:20:51,472 --> 01:20:53,182 -are gonna be crossing.” -Like I think 1344 01:20:53,391 --> 01:20:55,268 making' ourselves known being here 1345 01:20:55,476 --> 01:20:56,728 -is probably a good thing. -[Heather] Yeah. 1346 01:20:56,936 --> 01:20:57,812 I don't think approaching 'em 1347 01:20:58,021 --> 01:20:59,147 is a great idea either. 1348 01:20:59,355 --> 01:21:00,148 But uh, you don't wanna 1349 01:21:00,356 --> 01:21:01,441 like sneak up on them 1350 01:21:01,649 --> 01:21:03,151 -by any means. -[Heather] I know. 1351 01:21:03,359 --> 01:21:05,028 That's when you run into a bad situation. 1352 01:21:05,236 --> 01:21:07,822 Either drug smugglers or people trying to cross, 1353 01:21:08,031 --> 01:21:08,906 either way you don't wanna... 1354 01:21:10,950 --> 01:21:13,494 be in the middle of that and that's exactly where we're at right now. 1355 01:21:15,163 --> 01:21:18,291 So you guys are definitely ahead of us. 1356 01:21:18,499 --> 01:21:20,293 -[Filipe] Okay. -Uh, and... 1357 01:21:21,544 --> 01:21:25,214 I'm uh-- we're gonna start going forward towards you 1358 01:21:25,423 --> 01:21:26,799 with our lights on. 1359 01:21:27,008 --> 01:21:28,176 [Filipe] Alright, we're gonna stay put 1360 01:21:28,384 --> 01:21:30,345 and then we'll decide as a group. 1361 01:21:30,553 --> 01:21:32,388 We'll have our lights on here as well. 1362 01:21:32,597 --> 01:21:34,349 Uh, you just be careful. 1363 01:21:34,557 --> 01:21:35,933 So there is their lights. 1364 01:21:36,142 --> 01:21:37,393 At least I hope it's their lights. 1365 01:21:38,519 --> 01:21:39,979 Looks good. 1366 01:21:42,106 --> 01:21:43,232 [sighs] 1367 01:21:45,651 --> 01:21:48,237 -So we should get out of here. -[Jay] Yeah, we should. 1368 01:21:48,446 --> 01:21:50,239 -Like as soon as possible. -[Heather] Yeah. 1369 01:21:50,448 --> 01:21:51,532 And then getting down and camping 1370 01:21:51,741 --> 01:21:53,534 as soon as we see a camp spot. 1371 01:21:53,743 --> 01:21:56,871 Okay. Do you-- We were just discussing briefly 1372 01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:00,541 like should we like tell Stevie or Border Patrol 1373 01:22:00,750 --> 01:22:02,877 or just-- just go? 1374 01:22:03,086 --> 01:22:05,088 Yeah, we should call Stevie and let him know. 1375 01:22:05,296 --> 01:22:07,131 -Okay, yeah. -Like if something happens to us then-- 1376 01:22:07,340 --> 01:22:08,549 Yeah, yeah. No, I-- 1377 01:22:08,758 --> 01:22:10,218 [Ben] Like-- 1378 01:22:10,426 --> 01:22:11,386 Deal. 1379 01:22:12,970 --> 01:22:15,181 You got the number? You want this? 1380 01:22:15,390 --> 01:22:17,475 -Here. -It's like we stopped. 1381 01:22:17,683 --> 01:22:20,228 If we went around this right here, we would have seen people. 1382 01:22:20,436 --> 01:22:22,397 I don't like this at all. And they were right there? 1383 01:22:22,605 --> 01:22:24,524 -Yeah, they were right there. -And you all just stopped right here? 1384 01:22:24,732 --> 01:22:26,984 -[Heather] No, I mean-- -Let's get the fuck out of here, man. 1385 01:22:27,193 --> 01:22:28,277 Didn't know if you guys were behind us. 1386 01:22:33,658 --> 01:22:36,077 -[Austin] This-- this is a-- -[Heather] Alright. 1387 01:22:36,285 --> 01:22:37,370 -[Heather] Good timing. -[Austin] Yeah. 1388 01:22:41,249 --> 01:22:45,169 I have to admit I jumped to immediate bad conclusion. 1389 01:22:45,378 --> 01:22:47,588 You guys said: "backpacks and people crossing”, 1390 01:22:47,797 --> 01:22:51,384 the first thing that came to my head was running drugs, 1391 01:22:51,592 --> 01:22:53,678 like the very first thing that popped into my head. 1392 01:22:55,054 --> 01:22:56,931 [Austin] And they-- they might have been, but, uh... 1393 01:22:57,140 --> 01:22:58,099 [Ben] Yeah. 1394 01:22:58,307 --> 01:22:59,225 But we don't know that. 1395 01:23:00,351 --> 01:23:02,019 [Ben] Well, it's such a conundrum, because 1396 01:23:03,312 --> 01:23:06,357 like the people that are crossing, you know, 1397 01:23:08,151 --> 01:23:11,571 under different circumstances that could have been you. 1398 01:23:11,779 --> 01:23:13,197 Or you. 1399 01:23:15,533 --> 01:23:18,119 Yeah. And that is the predicament. Like I was sitting there 1400 01:23:18,327 --> 01:23:21,914 and I was like if those are families or people 1401 01:23:22,123 --> 01:23:24,459 who are trying to make a better life for themselves, I don't wanna call. 1402 01:23:24,667 --> 01:23:26,961 But if those are drug smugglers, I do wanna call. 1403 01:23:31,090 --> 01:23:32,467 [Austin] I talked to my parents about it 1404 01:23:33,593 --> 01:23:35,052 and told them I came upon some people, 1405 01:23:35,261 --> 01:23:36,637 and well, they asked me you know: "what-- 1406 01:23:36,846 --> 01:23:38,431 What were they wearing, what were they doing, 1407 01:23:38,639 --> 01:23:40,141 this or that” and-- 1408 01:23:40,349 --> 01:23:42,393 And I kinda described the situation and they-- 1409 01:23:42,602 --> 01:23:44,312 And they asked us what we did, and I was like: 1410 01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:46,063 "Well, we-- we called Border Patrol.” 1411 01:23:47,023 --> 01:23:52,361 And they-- they understood, they got it, 1412 01:23:53,613 --> 01:23:56,073 and they said,: "Oh man, poor people.” 1413 01:23:56,282 --> 01:23:57,492 Um. 1414 01:24:03,456 --> 01:24:06,250 They said that was them 30 years ago. 1415 01:24:07,418 --> 01:24:09,545 [gentle music] 1416 01:24:19,430 --> 01:24:22,141 [Austin] In Guatemala, they-- they were making three bucks a day. 1417 01:24:22,350 --> 01:24:23,476 They were living in a little room, 1418 01:24:23,684 --> 01:24:26,479 them and my older brother, my dad, he had 1419 01:24:26,687 --> 01:24:33,277 family members and friends who had either been, you know, harassed, mugged or killed. 1420 01:24:36,489 --> 01:24:37,532 I mean it was genocide. 1421 01:24:41,285 --> 01:24:45,957 My mom, she was very willing to do whatever she had to do 1422 01:24:46,165 --> 01:24:47,124 to get over here. 1423 01:24:48,334 --> 01:24:50,378 She tried to come over a couple of times. 1424 01:24:53,214 --> 01:24:54,799 Someone had snitched on her. 1425 01:24:56,509 --> 01:25:00,555 Mom and my older brother were locked up in Mexico 1426 01:25:00,763 --> 01:25:03,391 when they got caught by immigration there in Mexico. 1427 01:25:06,519 --> 01:25:10,398 Mom would ask to work in jail so she-- 1428 01:25:10,606 --> 01:25:12,984 So she could get money and food to feed my brother 1429 01:25:13,192 --> 01:25:14,068 while they're in jail. 1430 01:25:17,196 --> 01:25:20,157 I don't wanna discredit the-- the crossing of the river, it is significant. 1431 01:25:20,866 --> 01:25:25,705 But my parents had-- My, my family felt that fear the entire time. 1432 01:25:25,913 --> 01:25:27,415 And it was-- and they still thought they-- 1433 01:25:27,623 --> 01:25:29,417 That fear years after crossing. 1434 01:25:29,625 --> 01:25:31,794 [gentle music] 1435 01:25:41,762 --> 01:25:45,349 [Austin] When I was first born, it was probably uh, 15 of us 1436 01:25:45,558 --> 01:25:46,767 in one house. 1437 01:25:46,976 --> 01:25:47,852 It was tough. 1438 01:25:50,229 --> 01:25:52,523 My parents, they heard this radio announcement 1439 01:25:52,732 --> 01:25:56,527 about, um people helping illegal immigrants 1440 01:25:56,736 --> 01:25:57,695 get their residency, 1441 01:25:57,903 --> 01:25:59,697 but they have to report themselves 1442 01:25:59,905 --> 01:26:02,241 and state that they're there illegally. 1443 01:26:08,789 --> 01:26:11,459 My mom, she began crying immediately 1444 01:26:11,667 --> 01:26:14,295 and they're like: "We're-- we need to deport you now."” 1445 01:26:35,900 --> 01:26:38,653 In my parents' eyes, 1446 01:26:38,861 --> 01:26:40,279 the American dream were 1447 01:26:40,488 --> 01:26:41,781 to send three kids to college 1448 01:26:43,783 --> 01:26:47,578 and have enough to make a living and-- and be satisfied, 1449 01:26:49,288 --> 01:26:50,748 and they've exceeded that. 1450 01:26:54,919 --> 01:26:57,546 I am no longer embarrassed of who I am, where I come from. 1451 01:26:59,298 --> 01:27:01,133 I'm very proud of my parents. 1452 01:27:01,342 --> 01:27:02,218 Very proud. 1453 01:27:03,761 --> 01:27:06,847 And hopefully uh, one day I can pay 'em back. 1454 01:27:19,652 --> 01:27:21,112 [Ben] Today is a big day. 1455 01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:25,116 We are switching from canoes to bicycles, 1456 01:27:25,324 --> 01:27:28,577 because we're now in an area where there is a wall, 1457 01:27:28,786 --> 01:27:31,622 but the wall is so far away from the river 1458 01:27:31,831 --> 01:27:34,542 that you can't even see it from the river in some spots. 1459 01:27:34,750 --> 01:27:35,876 [Filipe] Let's ride. 1460 01:27:36,085 --> 01:27:37,294 -[cheering] -[Heather] Let's ride. 1461 01:27:39,505 --> 01:27:44,427 [Austin] Ben Masters is a determined, dedicated, 1462 01:27:45,636 --> 01:27:47,847 uncoordinated son of a gun. 1463 01:27:48,055 --> 01:27:50,850 He is so great for so many reasons, 1464 01:27:51,058 --> 01:27:52,518 but coordination is not one of them. 1465 01:27:53,811 --> 01:27:55,563 And to see him on the bicycle, 1466 01:27:55,771 --> 01:27:57,773 after paddling and being on a horseback, 1467 01:27:57,982 --> 01:28:02,361 is uh, one of my greatest joys in life now. 1468 01:28:02,570 --> 01:28:04,405 He is... 1469 01:28:04,613 --> 01:28:06,615 so bad on a bicycle. 1470 01:28:07,575 --> 01:28:08,868 But dang it, he's doing' it. 1471 01:28:11,662 --> 01:28:14,915 [Ben] The Lower Rio Grande Valley has the most illegal crossings 1472 01:28:15,124 --> 01:28:17,585 and drug traffic along the US-Mexico border. 1473 01:28:17,793 --> 01:28:21,255 ♪ Running astray ♪ 1474 01:28:21,464 --> 01:28:23,549 [Ben] It already has some existing border wall 1475 01:28:23,758 --> 01:28:26,302 and is priority for future wall construction. 1476 01:28:26,510 --> 01:28:28,387 ♪ I dream of you ♪ 1477 01:28:28,596 --> 01:28:30,806 [Ben] The Rio Grande here twists and turns, 1478 01:28:31,015 --> 01:28:33,893 but the border wall will be built on straight lines, 1479 01:28:34,101 --> 01:28:36,437 on levees and irrigation canals, 1480 01:28:36,645 --> 01:28:38,314 sometimes miles from the border. 1481 01:28:39,774 --> 01:28:42,234 Effectively stranding American land 1482 01:28:42,443 --> 01:28:43,903 between the river and the wall. 1483 01:28:45,696 --> 01:28:48,824 -Are you all doing dry land or uh, irrigation? -All irrigated. 1484 01:28:49,033 --> 01:28:52,912 All-- all irrigated, all the water coming out of the Rio Grande River. 1485 01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:56,665 Our river pumps are on the banks of the Rio Grande river. 1486 01:28:56,874 --> 01:28:59,335 We will have to go through the wall, 1487 01:28:59,543 --> 01:29:00,836 to get to our pumps, 1488 01:29:01,045 --> 01:29:04,465 which is the lifeblood of the irrigated farms. 1489 01:29:04,673 --> 01:29:08,761 The concern is we're giving up a tremendous amount of-- of 1490 01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:12,681 an area that-- that is some of the most 1491 01:29:12,890 --> 01:29:15,309 productive farmland in the world. 1492 01:29:15,518 --> 01:29:17,812 Uh, alluvial soils from the Rio Grande river 1493 01:29:18,020 --> 01:29:20,981 with a 365-day growing period. 1494 01:29:21,190 --> 01:29:24,777 So, there's a lot of impact south 1495 01:29:24,985 --> 01:29:27,321 of where they're going to place the wall. 1496 01:29:27,530 --> 01:29:33,494 Where is the border? Is the border on the river, or is the border at the wall? 1497 01:29:34,620 --> 01:29:37,039 Because there's three quarters of a mile difference. 1498 01:29:38,999 --> 01:29:42,253 I don't want it to be just a one-time photo op, 1499 01:29:42,461 --> 01:29:45,506 and then my uh, kids, and grandkids, 1500 01:29:45,714 --> 01:29:47,716 and future generations have to live 1501 01:29:47,925 --> 01:29:50,261 with their farm being cut in half. 1502 01:29:50,469 --> 01:29:53,681 Once the wall goes up, that's it. 1503 01:29:53,889 --> 01:29:56,559 You can't redo it, you can't undo it. 1504 01:29:56,767 --> 01:29:59,728 And I think it's easy for people in Washington DC 1505 01:29:59,937 --> 01:30:03,691 to make decisions without having some input 1506 01:30:03,899 --> 01:30:05,943 from the people who actually live here. 1507 01:30:06,151 --> 01:30:07,862 There's just something 1508 01:30:08,070 --> 01:30:09,697 kind of un-American about it to me, 1509 01:30:09,905 --> 01:30:12,116 and it's all part of the United States. 1510 01:30:14,493 --> 01:30:16,495 When they talk about Homeland Security, 1511 01:30:16,704 --> 01:30:17,872 we're part of the Homeland. 1512 01:30:19,039 --> 01:30:23,294 The wall will be on this side of the river road-- 1513 01:30:23,502 --> 01:30:25,045 Of the levee road. 1514 01:30:25,254 --> 01:30:27,548 Uh, and will be a vertical wall 1515 01:30:27,756 --> 01:30:32,428 where they will peel off this side of the-- of the levee 1516 01:30:32,636 --> 01:30:35,556 and build a vertical concrete wall. 1517 01:30:35,764 --> 01:30:37,892 For us, it's 350 acres, 1518 01:30:38,100 --> 01:30:42,730 for Steve's family, it's 500 acres, 1519 01:30:42,938 --> 01:30:45,482 for Santana, it's 2,000 acres. 1520 01:30:45,691 --> 01:30:48,068 So just within the stretch of a couple of miles, 1521 01:30:48,277 --> 01:30:51,572 you've got almost 3,000 acres of land 1522 01:30:51,780 --> 01:30:54,074 that is going to be ceded to Mexico 1523 01:30:54,283 --> 01:30:57,786 um, because it's gonna be south of the wall. 1524 01:30:57,995 --> 01:31:00,706 We're not gonna control the area south of the wall anymore. 1525 01:31:00,915 --> 01:31:03,667 [dramatic music] 1526 01:31:30,819 --> 01:31:32,613 [birds chirping] 1527 01:31:36,867 --> 01:31:39,495 [Heather] It's kind of crazy down here, 1528 01:31:39,703 --> 01:31:44,083 getting estimates of the number of individuals, 1529 01:31:45,250 --> 01:31:48,629 'cause you have these huge flocks flying over 1530 01:31:48,837 --> 01:31:51,966 and swarms of swallows. 1531 01:31:53,175 --> 01:31:57,763 Trying to estimate how many individuals you're seeing 1532 01:31:57,972 --> 01:31:58,889 is crazy. 1533 01:32:01,934 --> 01:32:06,689 In my bird surveys along the entire Rio Grande, 1534 01:32:08,107 --> 01:32:11,902 I detected over 150 species. 1535 01:32:13,779 --> 01:32:16,073 There's such a huge diversity. 1536 01:32:19,660 --> 01:32:21,996 The bird community in the Rio Grande Valley 1537 01:32:22,204 --> 01:32:23,747 is like completely different. 1538 01:32:25,165 --> 01:32:26,792 Many of these are species 1539 01:32:27,001 --> 01:32:30,004 that you wouldn't see anywhere else in the US. 1540 01:32:32,673 --> 01:32:35,175 It's the biggest birding destination 1541 01:32:35,384 --> 01:32:36,260 in the country. 1542 01:32:38,137 --> 01:32:39,888 If you just woke up here, 1543 01:32:41,181 --> 01:32:42,599 just listen to it, 1544 01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:46,520 you would think you're in the tropics. 1545 01:32:46,729 --> 01:32:48,897 That's a golden-fronted calling. 1546 01:32:51,984 --> 01:32:53,819 The Rio Grande Valley is 1547 01:32:54,028 --> 01:32:56,989 one of the most critical habitats 1548 01:32:57,197 --> 01:33:01,618 for birds, butterflies, and bats in North America. 1549 01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:07,583 This subtropical habitat that is really nowhere else 1550 01:33:07,791 --> 01:33:09,251 in the United States. 1551 01:33:12,838 --> 01:33:16,925 The Rio Grande Valley is along different migratory routes 1552 01:33:17,134 --> 01:33:19,678 for birds, butterflies and bats. 1553 01:33:21,055 --> 01:33:23,724 There's this huge collaboration 1554 01:33:23,932 --> 01:33:27,061 between public and private organizations, 1555 01:33:27,269 --> 01:33:32,024 and they've linked this string of pearls, 1556 01:33:32,232 --> 01:33:35,903 this native habitat along the Rio Grande 1557 01:33:36,111 --> 01:33:39,865 to preserve this area for native species. 1558 01:33:43,368 --> 01:33:47,498 The border wall would be built along the levee 1559 01:33:47,706 --> 01:33:49,625 with an enforcement zone. 1560 01:33:51,376 --> 01:33:55,005 In this region, where there's only 5% 1561 01:33:55,214 --> 01:33:57,966 of remaining native habitat, 1562 01:33:58,175 --> 01:34:01,637 this enforcement zone would be bulldozing 1563 01:34:01,845 --> 01:34:05,307 a-- a sizable portion of what's left. 1564 01:34:07,017 --> 01:34:09,770 In a flood situation 1565 01:34:09,978 --> 01:34:13,190 terrestrial animals could get caught up in floodwaters. 1566 01:34:14,399 --> 01:34:18,529 Having the border wall, species like the Texas tortoise 1567 01:34:18,737 --> 01:34:22,533 and ocelots could die in these rising flood waters, 1568 01:34:22,741 --> 01:34:25,369 because there wouldn't be any way for them to escape. 1569 01:34:29,832 --> 01:34:32,126 This could become a death trap. 1570 01:34:34,336 --> 01:34:36,755 It occurred to me along the journey 1571 01:34:36,964 --> 01:34:40,092 that in-- in some of these areas, 1572 01:34:40,300 --> 01:34:43,929 there may have never been a formal bird survey 1573 01:34:44,138 --> 01:34:48,976 and there may never be another one done 1574 01:34:49,184 --> 01:34:51,812 before it's changed forever. 1575 01:34:53,438 --> 01:34:59,862 I felt honored and-- to see the area before that, 1576 01:35:00,946 --> 01:35:05,909 but also saddened by the fact that it may soon change. 1577 01:35:12,833 --> 01:35:15,252 I think when people use that term "build a wall", 1578 01:35:15,460 --> 01:35:20,132 there are some that do believe it needs to be a structure. 1579 01:35:20,340 --> 01:35:24,595 Um, I do believe there's others that wanna see what-- 1580 01:35:24,803 --> 01:35:27,681 What I would term “"operational control of our border". 1581 01:35:27,890 --> 01:35:29,850 [Will] We should be able to know what's coming back and forth 1582 01:35:30,058 --> 01:35:30,893 across our border. 1583 01:35:31,101 --> 01:35:33,228 Nobody disagrees with that. 1584 01:35:33,437 --> 01:35:35,689 And since our technology is so cheap now, 1585 01:35:35,898 --> 01:35:37,649 it's basically disposable. 1586 01:35:37,858 --> 01:35:39,359 And that technology can tell the difference 1587 01:35:39,568 --> 01:35:43,113 between a jackrabbit and a person coming across the border. 1588 01:35:43,322 --> 01:35:45,240 And if that sensor gets triggered, 1589 01:35:45,449 --> 01:35:48,035 you can deploy men and women. The Border Patrol will do the one thing 1590 01:35:48,243 --> 01:35:50,621 that only they can do, interdiction, stopping this. 1591 01:35:50,829 --> 01:35:52,039 We can do that today 1592 01:35:52,247 --> 01:35:55,083 and that is not the kind of technology 1593 01:35:55,292 --> 01:35:58,337 that we are giving our men and women in Border Patrol 1594 01:35:58,545 --> 01:36:00,881 to do their job about keeping us safe 1595 01:36:01,089 --> 01:36:02,382 and-- and securing our border. 1596 01:36:02,591 --> 01:36:04,676 And again, it's a fraction of the cost 1597 01:36:04,885 --> 01:36:07,221 of uh, building a-- a concrete structure 1598 01:36:07,429 --> 01:36:10,265 that you can go over or-- or dig under. 1599 01:36:11,350 --> 01:36:13,852 [Beto] For me, the-- the answer is not gonna be walls 1600 01:36:14,061 --> 01:36:15,103 or fences or physical barriers, 1601 01:36:15,312 --> 01:36:17,397 it is gonna be ensuring 1602 01:36:17,606 --> 01:36:20,150 that our immigration laws match our reality, 1603 01:36:20,359 --> 01:36:23,278 uh, what our true needs are in this country, 1604 01:36:23,487 --> 01:36:24,905 what our values are, 1605 01:36:25,113 --> 01:36:28,784 and, um, do so in keeping with the best traditions 1606 01:36:28,992 --> 01:36:30,118 of Texas and this country. 1607 01:36:30,327 --> 01:36:31,828 Bipartisanship has become 1608 01:36:32,037 --> 01:36:34,164 a rare sight in Washington, but on Tuesday, 1609 01:36:34,373 --> 01:36:37,251 Mother Nature brought two Texas lawmakers together. 1610 01:36:37,459 --> 01:36:40,754 Their flights back to DC were cancel led, because of the show. 1611 01:36:40,963 --> 01:36:43,298 So representatives Will Hurd and Beto O'Rourke 1612 01:36:43,507 --> 01:36:46,343 decided to take to the road to get back to work 1613 01:36:46,551 --> 01:36:49,721 and talked policy and personal matters along the way. 1614 01:36:49,930 --> 01:36:53,350 And what I have found is that working with Republicans 1615 01:36:53,558 --> 01:36:56,770 um, being able to not allow the perfect 1616 01:36:56,979 --> 01:36:58,272 to become the enemy of the good 1617 01:36:58,480 --> 01:37:03,193 um, and uh, just focus on making things better 1618 01:37:03,402 --> 01:37:04,945 um, you can make some progress. 1619 01:37:05,153 --> 01:37:08,323 And we can also disagree without being disagreeable. 1620 01:37:08,532 --> 01:37:11,952 The competition of ideas is what has made this country greatest, 1621 01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:14,788 what's made this experiment called "America" work. 1622 01:37:14,997 --> 01:37:18,417 [Will] And way more unites us than divides us. 1623 01:37:18,625 --> 01:37:20,752 Uh, then we can get a bigger-- a bigger car next time 1624 01:37:20,961 --> 01:37:21,878 and bring a few more people. 1625 01:37:22,087 --> 01:37:24,423 The rhetoric around all of this 1626 01:37:24,631 --> 01:37:29,469 that is uh, something that um, we can't let continue to happen. 1627 01:37:29,678 --> 01:37:32,723 When people in Mexico hear our president denigrate 1628 01:37:32,931 --> 01:37:35,434 that country, vilify Mexicans, 1629 01:37:35,642 --> 01:37:38,979 refer to Mexican immigrants as rapists and criminals, 1630 01:37:39,187 --> 01:37:41,315 promise to build a 2,000-mile wall 1631 01:37:41,523 --> 01:37:43,150 that will cost $30 billion 1632 01:37:43,358 --> 01:37:46,111 and say that Mexico is gonna have to pay for it 1633 01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:49,448 um, Mexicans remind themselves that they have 1634 01:37:49,656 --> 01:37:52,075 other potential partners around the globe. 1635 01:37:57,956 --> 01:38:00,250 [Beto] They are deepening trade relationships 1636 01:38:00,459 --> 01:38:03,962 with others at our expense. 1637 01:38:04,171 --> 01:38:06,923 The rhetoric will come at a cost to our country. 1638 01:38:07,132 --> 01:38:10,344 And we have to improve um, our understanding 1639 01:38:10,552 --> 01:38:13,430 of an area that so many people talk about, 1640 01:38:13,638 --> 01:38:16,475 but many people have never been and don't understand. 1641 01:38:19,144 --> 01:38:21,938 -[laughing] -[Ben] But you just sit there and you look at it, 1642 01:38:22,147 --> 01:38:24,816 -go, "Wow, oh my god" you know, like... -These people 1643 01:38:25,025 --> 01:38:26,443 that are crossing, how hard can it be? 1644 01:38:26,651 --> 01:38:28,362 -It looks scalable. -[Ben] Oh yeah. 1645 01:38:28,570 --> 01:38:30,530 [Filipe] I mean it's-- it's America. 1646 01:38:30,739 --> 01:38:32,407 [Filipe] Especially with the wide-angle lens on, 1647 01:38:32,616 --> 01:38:34,868 it looks even that much more intimidating. 1648 01:38:35,077 --> 01:38:36,495 You gotta do it with a fish eye. 1649 01:38:38,163 --> 01:38:39,998 -I'm just curious now. -[Austin laughing] 1650 01:38:40,207 --> 01:38:41,875 [Filipe] I'm just curious, I just wanna see if it's-- 1651 01:38:43,126 --> 01:38:46,254 -If you jump on a 747. -[Austin laughing] 1652 01:38:55,055 --> 01:38:57,974 Oh, there's a nice little cup holder here for you, too. 1653 01:39:08,026 --> 01:39:08,985 [Austin] That was it? 1654 01:39:16,076 --> 01:39:17,244 [Filipe] Alright, so here is... 1655 01:39:17,452 --> 01:39:18,578 [taking deep breaths] 1656 01:39:18,787 --> 01:39:19,663 The wall. 1657 01:39:21,373 --> 01:39:24,459 [Filipe] There is Mexico, there is the US, 1658 01:39:24,668 --> 01:39:25,919 there is me! 1659 01:39:26,128 --> 01:39:27,212 There is the wall, 1660 01:39:27,421 --> 01:39:28,672 there is Border Patrol in the distance. 1661 01:39:30,173 --> 01:39:33,218 Not too uh-- not too difficult. 1662 01:39:41,685 --> 01:39:44,146 [gentle music] 1663 01:39:47,274 --> 01:39:49,192 Seeing people cross, 1664 01:39:51,445 --> 01:39:53,321 we were afraid 1665 01:39:54,364 --> 01:39:56,616 and alarmed 1666 01:39:56,825 --> 01:40:00,245 and unsure of the situation. 1667 01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:06,460 And to realize that those people were also alarmed 1668 01:40:06,668 --> 01:40:08,336 and afraid 1669 01:40:08,545 --> 01:40:10,005 and unsure of the situation. 1670 01:40:13,300 --> 01:40:16,303 And we felt that feeling for such a small instant 1671 01:40:16,511 --> 01:40:18,346 when we saw those groups of people crossing. 1672 01:40:20,015 --> 01:40:23,185 And it was-- it was-- it was stressful, it was tiring, 1673 01:40:23,393 --> 01:40:26,563 and to feel that for years, and years, and years 1674 01:40:27,647 --> 01:40:29,357 made me realize... 1675 01:40:31,067 --> 01:40:35,071 that there is a bigger issue than the actual crossing into the country. 1676 01:40:39,409 --> 01:40:43,079 [Austin] If you think that someone who's desperate enough 1677 01:40:43,288 --> 01:40:45,165 to move from Guatemala to Austin, 1678 01:40:45,373 --> 01:40:47,501 and you think they're just gonna turn right around, 1679 01:40:47,709 --> 01:40:49,127 because they see a wall in front of 'em... 1680 01:40:51,254 --> 01:40:52,422 That's absurd. 1681 01:40:54,466 --> 01:40:56,551 That wanting a better life, 1682 01:40:58,220 --> 01:41:00,305 that's the issue that needs to be approached. 1683 01:41:00,514 --> 01:41:02,724 [gentle guitar music] 1684 01:41:15,278 --> 01:41:17,072 [cheering] 1685 01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:18,698 [Jay] Preemptive Wooh, we're not there yet. 1686 01:41:18,907 --> 01:41:21,576 Preemptive. Don't let go the boat just yet. 1687 01:41:21,785 --> 01:41:23,537 -White pelicans! -[Heather indistinct] 1688 01:41:24,788 --> 01:41:26,456 [Filipe] Skimmers, black skimmers! 1689 01:41:27,791 --> 01:41:29,751 [Heather] Skimmers, skimmers! 1690 01:41:34,256 --> 01:41:35,799 Done with this guy. 1691 01:41:38,134 --> 01:41:39,386 [Jay] It's bittersweet. 1692 01:41:39,594 --> 01:41:42,347 We become pretty close. 1693 01:41:42,556 --> 01:41:45,183 It's-- I think it's gonna be like surreal 1694 01:41:45,392 --> 01:41:47,269 to finally see the Gulf and at the same time 1695 01:41:47,477 --> 01:41:50,480 like have a mix of emotions that like, this is-- this is ending. 1696 01:41:50,689 --> 01:41:52,148 I'm gonna miss you guys. 1697 01:41:52,357 --> 01:41:54,401 -Yeah. -[chuckling] 1698 01:41:54,609 --> 01:41:55,652 I'll miss you too, Ben. 1699 01:41:59,656 --> 01:42:02,200 [soft music] 1700 01:42:19,509 --> 01:42:21,344 [Filipe] I thought that the border 1701 01:42:21,553 --> 01:42:24,306 was just this desolate no-man's land. 1702 01:42:28,727 --> 01:42:30,437 But when I actually came out here, 1703 01:42:30,645 --> 01:42:33,607 I despised the idea of a physical wall 1704 01:42:33,815 --> 01:42:35,775 and the reason that I started to hate it 1705 01:42:35,984 --> 01:42:39,696 is because this land, this country is damn beautiful. 1706 01:42:45,493 --> 01:42:47,329 [Heather] So tragic thinking about a border wall 1707 01:42:47,537 --> 01:42:50,749 cutting through some of the last remaining habitat 1708 01:42:50,957 --> 01:42:51,875 of this type... 1709 01:42:54,919 --> 01:43:00,175 that may be completely ineffective and unnecessary. 1710 01:43:02,344 --> 01:43:06,765 [Jay] I don't think any of us are ignorant to the challenges 1711 01:43:06,973 --> 01:43:10,060 um, in terms of immigration and drug passing. 1712 01:43:10,268 --> 01:43:13,521 I think it's just the fact that like what we learned so far, 1713 01:43:13,730 --> 01:43:17,067 this structure that could be so destructive 1714 01:43:17,275 --> 01:43:19,611 to the environment and the private property rights 1715 01:43:19,819 --> 01:43:21,655 and access to water, 1716 01:43:22,614 --> 01:43:26,576 that that destructive potential quote, unquote "solution 1717 01:43:26,785 --> 01:43:27,911 is not a solution. 1718 01:43:30,914 --> 01:43:33,667 [gentle guitar music] 1719 01:43:35,251 --> 01:43:36,294 [Ben] It's a distraction, 1720 01:43:37,337 --> 01:43:40,256 a distraction that ignores the root problems. 1721 01:43:43,927 --> 01:43:48,181 I feel honored to have seen and documented the Rio Grande 1722 01:43:48,390 --> 01:43:50,558 before it's potentially changed forever. 1723 01:43:54,979 --> 01:43:57,190 But it makes me so sad 1724 01:43:57,399 --> 01:44:01,861 to think that a political symbol and a king of pain promise 1725 01:44:02,070 --> 01:44:04,406 could destroy this beautiful landscape 1726 01:44:04,614 --> 01:44:05,782 that I've grown to love. 1727 01:44:08,993 --> 01:44:10,954 But I'm hopeful for a silver lining 1728 01:44:12,455 --> 01:44:14,290 that all the attention on the border 1729 01:44:14,499 --> 01:44:18,294 could lead to realistic immigration reform, 1730 01:44:18,503 --> 01:44:21,631 a more sensible way to approach border security, 1731 01:44:23,258 --> 01:44:26,386 and that the landscapes of the mighty Rio Grande 1732 01:44:26,594 --> 01:44:30,306 finally get the respect and the protection that they deserve. 1733 01:44:30,515 --> 01:44:33,226 [gentle guitar music] 1734 01:44:45,697 --> 01:44:47,907 [Jay] I've been thinking about this for almost a year 1735 01:44:48,116 --> 01:44:49,576 and I cannot believe 1736 01:44:49,784 --> 01:44:51,745 that we are almost in the Gulf of Mexico right now. 1737 01:44:51,953 --> 01:44:53,830 [cheering] 1738 01:44:54,038 --> 01:44:56,541 [loud cheering] 1739 01:44:56,750 --> 01:45:00,003 [epic music] 1740 01:45:27,906 --> 01:45:29,949 [gentle guitar music] 1741 01:45:47,091 --> 01:45:49,302 [Ben] Every once in a while it just hits me that 1742 01:45:49,511 --> 01:45:54,891 the photos' and the videos that were taken here might be 1743 01:45:55,099 --> 01:45:58,394 some of the last 1744 01:45:58,603 --> 01:46:00,522 of the Rio Grande 1745 01:46:00,730 --> 01:46:02,440 before the wall is constructed. 1746 01:46:02,649 --> 01:46:06,319 ♪ Can hear those coyotes cry ♪ 1747 01:46:06,528 --> 01:46:07,987 It's just a crazy thing to think about. 1748 01:46:08,196 --> 01:46:11,241 ♪ Won't be long before they're all gone ♪ 1749 01:46:11,449 --> 01:46:14,369 ♪ Just the highway is left ♪ 1750 01:46:24,128 --> 01:46:27,590 ♪ I had a big imagination ♪ 1751 01:46:27,799 --> 01:46:30,051 ♪ I lose it every day ♪ 1752 01:46:32,136 --> 01:46:35,390 ♪ I never use my education ♪ 1753 01:46:35,598 --> 01:46:38,560 ♪ Didn't learn anything ♪ 1754 01:46:40,478 --> 01:46:42,605 ♪ ♪ 138366

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