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‫Being a great role model is terrific.

‫One of my ambitions in life is to take women out of role model hell so they don't feel that everything

‫they do is going to impact other women's careers.

‫But one of the most important things I think we can do is to support each other and intervene when we

‫see these things happening.

‫There were multiple times where in a meeting what she had done was not acknowledged.

‫And one of the most powerful things we can do, and it's really important for other women, but it's

‫important for ourselves.

‫It's important for men.

‫It's important for creating a culture in which women can be recognized is when someone says something

‫it doesn't, it goes right by to say, hey, I noticed that I made this point.

‫I think we need to respond to that to just be the one who speaks up and holds other people to account.

‫Because guess what?

‫A lot of times it's not a malign thing.

‫They're just not noticing in the female vision.

‫The book I did before this, one of the things we found, which is a really important point, women's

‫brains are processing more information at the same time, whereas men's are operating more like laser

‫going on from one point to the next.

‫So when you're expecting men and who have that laser light notice to be noticing what you're contributing.

‫Good luck with that.

‫They're focused on what they are doing.

‫They're focused on what they're not reading the room to see who is getting ignored like a lot of women

‫do, so that it's really important to be able to do those kinds of interventions and to do them with

‫good will.

‫Not like to just see him.

‫He can't listen to anything a woman says.

‫No, maybe he was doing something else.

‫But hey, did you notice that she made this contribution?

‫So when you do that, you do it over and over and you can do it in groups.

‫You begin to create a culture where it's easier to recognize what women contribute.

‫I think many of us have had that kind of experience, and that's the classic double bind that keeps

‫getting that is constantly written about, you know, that it's it lands one way when a man says it

‫and it can land another way when a woman says it.

‫And I think the most important thing to do when that happens is to not then automatically back off and

‫think he doesn't support me, he doesn't support women.

‫He's part of the old guys network.

‫I'm never going to make I'm never going to make an impact on this guy to be there.

‫Thank you.

‫Like Marcia would say, thank you for that feedback.

‫I feel that what I've said is, is really important and that there is value for you and for your team

‫in understanding the contributions that I've made.

‫So I am going to continue to do that and I'm going to continue to do that in a way that that you may

‫find comfortable or you may find uncomfortable.

‫I'm going to search for a way to make you comfortable, to help you be comfortable, not make you to

‫help you be comfortable with hearing this information.

‫And I hope to find it.

‫But even if I don't, I am going to continue sharing this.