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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,360 This programme contains scenes which some viewers may find upsetting 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:07,680 Hi, Jeanette. It's Mina here. 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,960 Sorry to phone so early. 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:14,880 THEY LAUGH 5 00:00:17,080 --> 00:00:21,560 Nikki and Bibaa have gone missing for over 24 hours. 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:26,280 We've let the police know, but we're really getting concerned. 7 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:37,680 As a priest, I have walked alongside people who have lost those 8 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:42,680 that they love and I haven't had the answers. 9 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,440 You know, there are some priests 10 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,160 who have walked away from their faith. 11 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,160 No-one wants to outlive their children. 12 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,440 It's horrendous. 13 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,600 Two years ago, on Friday the 5th June, 14 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,000 sisters Bibaa and Nicole were celebrating Bibaa's birthday 15 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,520 in a park in North London... 16 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:31,920 ..when they disappeared. 17 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,560 The police were called the next day, 18 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,200 but they didn't send anyone to the park. 19 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:42,000 By Sunday, family and friends mounted their own search 20 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,600 and found the bodies of both Bibaa and Nikki. 21 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:47,880 They had been brutally murdered. 22 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,640 But the first most people heard of this tragic story 23 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:57,480 was 18 days later, when it came out that two policemen had been arrested 24 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,400 for taking and distributing selfies of the women's bodies. 25 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,360 The girls' mum, Mina Smallman, 26 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,560 has asked me to help her tell the story of what's happened 27 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,400 since that horrendous night. 28 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,800 Today, exactly a year on from the murder, 29 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,720 it would have been Bibaa's birthday. 30 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,120 Mina has just texted saying, 31 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,560 "Happy birthday, Bibaa. 47 today. 32 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,320 "We love you and miss you every day." 33 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:41,400 I have absolutely no idea how Mina will be feeling today. 34 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,680 It's such a significant day, it's... 35 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:51,360 ..the anniversary of the girls' death coming up, 36 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,480 and today it's Bibaa's birthday 37 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,600 and the first birthday that she's not here. 38 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:03,560 It's an unbelievable situation that Mina and Chris find themselves in. 39 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,160 Hello! 40 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,880 Hello, you. Hello. Lovely to see you. 41 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,480 Mina lives in Ramsgate on the east coast with her husband, Chris. 42 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:25,680 These are for Bibaa. Ah! Got her flowers. Thank you. 43 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,600 Chris is Nikki's dad and was also 44 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,400 very close to Mina's other daughters, Monique, 45 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,320 who lives in Holland, and Bibaa. 46 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:33,760 This photo's stunning. 47 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,200 You look incredible, Chris. Thank you very much. 48 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,160 Your Monique, Bibaa. 49 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:46,160 There she is. Mina and Nicole. Yeah, yeah. 50 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,000 Nicole's the baby. Yeah, yeah. 51 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:53,480 She would have been 27 this year, yeah, in August. 52 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,160 But they got on really well, even though...sort of big age gap. 53 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,120 Oh, yeah, yeah, really close, all three of them, yeah. 54 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,960 Bibaa was always the party animal out of the three. 55 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:06,440 She was always very bubbly and she had a really close relationship, 56 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:10,320 particularly with Nicole cos Nicole was the baby. Yes. So... 57 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,960 And tell me a bit about Nicole. You know, what was your Nicole like? 58 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:20,840 She should have been born in the '60s. She was a hippie. 59 00:04:20,840 --> 00:04:24,200 That's... And her boyfriend, Adam, 60 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,240 the two of them were hippies, 61 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,680 they loved animals, she's mad on animals. 62 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,000 And I said, "Do you know what, I could just see you and Adam 63 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,640 "living on a barge with four dogs playing music, you know." 64 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,200 Like Noah's Ark. Yeah, absolutely. STACEY CHUCKLES 65 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:47,200 Nikki was an artist and was just 26 when she was killed. 66 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,280 Her big sister, Bibaa, was a social worker, specialising 67 00:04:50,280 --> 00:04:52,160 in child protection. 68 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:56,600 She was 46, a mother and about to become a grandmother. 69 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:01,800 This is the first time she hasn't been here for her birthday. Yeah. 70 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,840 Mm. Well, there's like a hole, isn't there? Something missing. 71 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:10,120 The only way I can cope with it is 72 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:16,200 that I am only partially engaged with the reality of it. 73 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:20,400 I think that's a good way of putting it across. Yeah. 74 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,760 Almost like it's not really happened, trying to, you know, 75 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,360 like half reality you said. Yeah. Erm... 76 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,760 But it hits you at different times. 77 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,120 That's grief, isn't it? Yeah. 78 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,080 It's not linear, it's not predictable. 79 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,440 In 2013, Mina became the first woman of colour to become an archdeacon. 80 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,360 But in the year just gone, 81 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,600 her faith has been tested as never before. 82 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,680 With the trials of both the man accused of killing her daughters 83 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,360 and the two Met police officers 84 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,360 who shared photos of their bodies coming up, 85 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,760 the next few months are going to be tough. 86 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,880 Today, at the end of this day, 87 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,520 is the point at which they died. 88 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:11,160 And it could be that tonight 89 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,160 I have one of my meltdowns, 90 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,200 which are very necessary. 91 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,080 I mean, talk me through what that looks and feels like. 92 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,680 It's like a dam. It's like... 93 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,760 I can't...I can't do this any more. 94 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,800 Something snaps... 95 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:36,120 ..and when it snaps, um... 96 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,360 ..to be honest with you... 97 00:06:42,280 --> 00:06:45,640 ..I actually want to join my girls. 98 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,560 I don't want to be here, 99 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:57,320 and it's only because the girls have gone 100 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:03,360 and I know the pain it has caused to lose someone you love... 101 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,800 ..I couldn't... 102 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:09,600 ..I couldn't do it to Chris. 103 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,320 And Monique. 104 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,800 But, um, having a faith... 105 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,280 Shall we stop there for a minute, maybe? No, it's fine. It's fine. 106 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,280 But that's what a meltdown feels like. 107 00:07:54,280 --> 00:08:00,480 It feels like everything in your soul and being 108 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:05,480 is, um... You don't want to be here. 109 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:12,360 But I need to do this, um, 110 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,200 because I've spent a lifetime 111 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:20,200 fighting for boys and girls, 112 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,880 and I did it for them, now I'm doing it for my girls. 113 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,600 You're under arrest. Come out, come out of the address. 114 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:39,960 Keep walking towards me. 115 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:44,120 Within a month of the murders, a 19-year-old man was arrested. 116 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,560 His DNA had been found at the scene. 117 00:08:46,560 --> 00:08:48,520 Hands on your head. 118 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,320 It's now the day before his trial begins at the Old Bailey. 119 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:53,920 Chris and Mina are going to stay 120 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,000 with friends in London during the week. 121 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:02,080 We've got to get ready for the trial over the next four weeks. 122 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,720 Do you want to put your shoes on? 123 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,440 I've still got to get my shaver. All right. 124 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:10,400 The packing. It all becomes part of a worry 125 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,600 on top of the worry, you know. 126 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,800 What...what's going to happen, 127 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,000 how it's going to happen, 128 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:23,320 and it's the only thing I can control, really, it's, um... 129 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,120 I can control this bit, I can't control what comes next. 130 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,040 I think what we are dreading the most 131 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:39,240 is the day when they go through the details of how they died. 132 00:09:40,680 --> 00:09:44,520 That's...that's what I find difficult. 133 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,800 The case has taken 11 months to come to trial. 134 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,400 Over the next few weeks, Mina and Chris are going to hear every detail 135 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,960 of what happened that weekend in June 2020, 136 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,560 as Britain was just coming out of the first Covid lockdown. 137 00:10:01,560 --> 00:10:05,080 As the weather threatens, I think, to take a turn for the worse, 138 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,160 some of you maybe tempted to move 139 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:12,080 the gatherings you've been enjoying outdoors, indoors. 140 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,240 I really urge you, don't do that. 141 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,960 Because of lockdown, you weren't 142 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:26,160 allowed to meet inside at that point, 143 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:30,080 so Bibaa had the idea of having a picnic. 144 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,640 She only chose friends who could get there and didn't have 145 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,360 to go by transport or anything. 146 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,360 They were so happy together, you know, sort of skipping 147 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,320 into the into the park, all excited, 148 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,680 carrying all the possessions for the party. 149 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,440 I was really pleased that they could have time together. 150 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,280 The party in Fryent Country Park, near Bibaa's home, 151 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,240 started just before dusk. 152 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:07,040 Bibaa liked the sunset. She wanted all her friends to see the sunset 153 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,000 on her birthday, how beautiful it is. 154 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:15,960 Bibaa asked her friends to bring blankets, lights, food and drink. 155 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:20,160 When we were down the bottom, we couldn't quite see where they were, 156 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:23,920 so we phoned, to find out where they were, 157 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:25,520 and she was waving the lights from 158 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,920 at the top of the hill so we could see. 159 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,120 With Covid rules still in place, 160 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,400 only Bibaa's closest friends could come. 161 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,440 Yeah, she was enjoying it, with the lights, wrapping it round her body, 162 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:43,360 taking pictures. Yeah, she was enjoying herself. And her sister. 163 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,880 We were just sitting there and we were drinking 164 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,920 and she was laughing and joking and singing and partying. 165 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:58,480 By midnight everyone else had gone home, but the sisters stayed on. 166 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,880 Nikki's boyfriend, Adam, wasn't there for the party, 167 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,080 but Nikki WhatsApped him through the evening. 168 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,440 Adam said, last message I got was, you know, 169 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,680 "1:30, I'm dancing in a field. Going home soon." 170 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,160 You can see they were just having a wonderful time. 171 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,960 The following morning, 172 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,480 I sent a text out and left a message with the girls 173 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,000 and said, "I hope you had a lovely time, tell me all about it later." 174 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,880 Adam was also trying to reach Nikki. 175 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,920 Adam tried to contact Nikki 176 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,000 because she was meant to message him 177 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,200 when she was back, as we do 178 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,920 to our other halves, and, of course, he'd not heard. 179 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:03,560 You used to love strawberries. 180 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:10,280 # Why won't eat a strawberry for me? # 181 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,400 Nicole has a bearded dragon that's like her baby, 182 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,120 so when she doesn't tell you what to do with him, 183 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,360 to feed him or change his heat lamp, then you know that something's 184 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,520 not right, so Emma messaged me, being like, 185 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,680 "What's going on? Have you heard from her?" And I hadn't. 186 00:13:26,680 --> 00:13:29,280 And then I think Adam messaged me, 187 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,560 wondering if I had heard from her, and then, 188 00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:35,120 yeah, the Saturday evening was really stressful. 189 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:40,200 I thought, at that point, it's not normal behaviour, 190 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:44,680 so I phoned the police, and I explained the situation, 191 00:13:44,680 --> 00:13:48,280 I explained where the girls went missing from. 192 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:52,000 I explained how long they'd been missing, and there seemed 193 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,160 to be no sense of urgency. 194 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,120 There was no follow-up. 195 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,960 I was sending texts throughout Saturday night, 196 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,600 I couldn't sleep and phoning them 197 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,640 and not getting any reply. 198 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,360 And that's when we knew, 199 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,880 on the Sunday morning, we had to do something. 200 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:15,680 Hi, Jeanette. It's Mina here. Sorry to phone so early. 201 00:14:15,680 --> 00:14:22,760 I phoned my good friend, Jeanette, and her husband is ex-CID. 202 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:27,440 Nikki and Bibaa have gone missing for over 24 hours. 203 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:32,200 We've let the police know, but we're really getting concerned. 204 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,280 I could hear, in her voice, 205 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,600 I could tell that she was really worried. 206 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:42,280 This has gone from zero to sort of 100 on the risk factor for me. 207 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,120 I was saying to Chris on the phone, 208 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,280 "Chris, you've got to get on the road." 209 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,440 With Chris on his way to London and no sign of police, 210 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,320 friends put a missing poster up on Facebook. 211 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,240 They called local hospitals 212 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,920 and then started their own search of the park. 213 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:04,760 Nobody was going to the park 214 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:06,040 to go and look for them, 215 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:07,560 but we knew where we'd left them 216 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:08,880 so we were going to go back. 217 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,240 One of Bibaa's friends who'd been 218 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,160 with them contacted Adam on the mobile and met up 219 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:24,320 so that she could show them where they'd all been sitting. 220 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,560 I remember searching, I just went to the police, 221 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:32,160 and then I was looking around by myself in a massive field. 222 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:36,000 So I went for a walk and then, suddenly, there's this knife there. 223 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,280 By the minute, things were looking worse and worse all the time. 224 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:45,920 It was like, oh, they found the glasses and then it went on to... 225 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:47,880 ..I found a knife, and at your point, 226 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,400 you just said, "Right, stop. Stop there." 227 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,960 After finding a knife, and still no sign of police, 228 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,560 Adam kept looking. 229 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,320 He ran over to look at some nearby bushes, up the hill 230 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:02,800 and he worked his way down. 231 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,640 And I was still looking, Jill was still looking. 232 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,680 And then there was this horrible, guttural scream. 233 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,000 Thought, "Gosh, what's that?" 234 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,760 And then it went again. Yeah, yeah. 235 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,680 And I thought, "That's not Adam." 236 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,040 And then it went again and it's like... 237 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:27,400 It takes a few seconds to... 238 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,720 ..it's like the floor drops away, you know, 239 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,840 cos I thought, "That is Adam." 240 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:40,200 And he just said, "Don't panic, Mum, 241 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,800 "don't panic, but they've gone." 242 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:50,040 And then, uh, we just, you know, held on to each other. 243 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,040 Adam called the police again and then phoned Mina. 244 00:16:59,960 --> 00:17:04,320 Adam said, "Mina...Mina, I need you to sit down. 245 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,720 "We've found them, but they're gone." 246 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,080 After I got through the screaming, 247 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:22,000 I then thought, "Oh, my goodness, Chris is on his way to the park," 248 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,080 so I phone him up, I said, 249 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:28,080 "Chris they've found them and they're gone." 250 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:33,280 And all he said was, "Effin' 'ell." 251 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,320 And just cried on the phone. 252 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,400 A week into the murder trial at the Old Bailey, 253 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,840 Mina and Chris have been hearing the details of what the police found 254 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,760 when they searched the suspect's room. 255 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,840 REPORTER: Police discovered a satanic plan 256 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,560 in a note in his bedroom. 257 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,400 It was a deal with a demon from hell 258 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,000 and it was signed in his own blood. 259 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,680 He wrote that he was prepared to perform a minimum of 260 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,480 six sacrifices every six months. 261 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,520 And sacrifice only women. 262 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:29,680 And he was clear what he wanted in return... 263 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,480 ..win the Mega Millions Super Jackpot. 264 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,920 He began buying lottery tickets. 265 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:45,440 We know now that in his warped mind, 266 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:50,520 he had some kind of a deal with the devil. 267 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:56,960 How on earth do you prepare yourself for this? 268 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,640 Yeah, there's no preparation. 269 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,920 The more you read, you know, the detail of the little notes he wrote 270 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,760 and he had them in his bedroom, the lottery ticket, 271 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:11,000 I thought it sounded like he had been watching one of these 272 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,000 nasty videos, you know, like some sort of horror film. 273 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,480 Physically and emotionally, 274 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,000 I didn't think I'd make it to this point, 275 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,480 but I was determined to be here. 276 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,640 I think we know where it's going at the moment. 277 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,360 I don't feel worried about anything, 278 00:19:28,360 --> 00:19:31,160 other than what I've already been worrying about anyway. 279 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,000 And I'm thinking about it all the time, 280 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,600 every time I get up and go to bed and whatever, um... 281 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:41,200 Is it all-consuming? Yes, it is all-consuming, yeah. 282 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:42,960 It's all you think about. 283 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,720 Your faith, I mean, has that sustained you? 284 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,560 My friend had prayed for me. 285 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,480 Um, and when they said 286 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,480 he had made a pact with the demon, the devil, 287 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:04,720 suddenly, I just felt this peace just descend on me. 288 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,880 I just felt full of the Holy Spirit. 289 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:13,040 I thought, "This is it. This is my territory." 290 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:19,880 You know, "I understand this. I'm the light, he's the darkness." 291 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,120 And I felt, "I can do this." 292 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,000 Since her girls first went missing, 293 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,440 Mina's faith has been a constant source of strength. 294 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,040 She has invited me to join her and Chris at Canterbury Cathedral, 295 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,720 a place sacred to her. 296 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,920 The place of prayer in the cathedral. 297 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,200 I'm going to light one for both of the girls. 298 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,680 Of course. I'll do Bibaa. 299 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,520 Chris, would you like to do one for Nicole? 300 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,600 Place it... Yeah, great. 301 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,760 Let's pray together in this quiet space. 302 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:19,920 God, our Father, we give thanks as we remember Nicole and Bibaa, 303 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,040 give thanks for them, 304 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,080 and surround them with love. 305 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,800 We remember all who suffer violence. 306 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:35,560 And pray for them within the name of our Lord, Jesus Christ, 307 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:40,840 who offered Himself for us, as a sign of your care. 308 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:00,760 How was that? 309 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,640 That was amazing, actually. Um... 310 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,200 ..that moment of silence and everything, and the prayer, 311 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,240 I really felt that. 312 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,840 And I wasn't really in a hurry to come back, 313 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,880 I could have sat there for a lot longer, 314 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:23,400 but...it's great that I can do that. 315 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,640 You know, that I can still find peace. 316 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,720 How do you feel sat here, Chris? Does it give you anything? 317 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,200 Mixed really, yeah. Pleased for Mina that she's found peace. 318 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,440 It's a beautiful building, obviously, and setting, 319 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:40,800 so that's good. 320 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,280 Still upsetting, obviously. 321 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,840 Do you feel like you're being held or that's not something that...? 322 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,440 No, for me, it doesn't come into that, really. 323 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:55,040 Where do you think you would be now, Mina, if, you know, you weren't 324 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,080 religious and you didn't have faith? 325 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,760 I think I would be a very angry, 326 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,720 bitter and twisted female. 327 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,040 Definitely. 328 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:14,680 And finding my faith has saved me on numerous occasions. 329 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,520 And at times like this... 330 00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:22,800 ..you need it. You know, because... 331 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,520 ..I don't know how people go through what they go through 332 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:34,080 with no sense of there being a higher purpose in this life. 333 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,000 And I know that's challenging for a lot of people. 334 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:41,920 Often, when people have circumstances like ours, 335 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:46,480 they think, "Well, you know, how can a god allow this?" 336 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,200 You know, there are some priests who have lost their children 337 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,520 and they've they walked away from their faith. 338 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,920 I don't think it's a testament of how strong your faith is, 339 00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:00,720 it's about being able to hear beyond the evil of this world. 340 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,560 You have to dig deep when the bad times come. 341 00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:27,280 Chris has been a rock for Mina through all of this, 342 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:28,760 but he's struggling, too. 343 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,600 Morning! 344 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,760 He has his own way of getting through the days. 345 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,320 Fairly constantly I feel and think about 346 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,880 what happened that day, that night. 347 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:47,880 And I still talk to the girls before I go to sleep 348 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,960 and sometimes in the morning, when I wake up. 349 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,240 It's always going to be there. 350 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,760 Do you play tennis every week? Yeah. 351 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,320 Just a bit of escapism, right? It is, it's huge escapism. 352 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,040 Take your mind off... That's it. ..all the awful stuff going on. 353 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:09,560 Um, but it's just finding ways to switch off 354 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,680 and support Mina when she's going through her, you know, 355 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:18,480 her dark period every so often, when she, you know, really struggles. 356 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,280 Yeah. Mina has said that, actually. 357 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,000 Thank God she's got her faith, 358 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,600 cos that has been like a pillar of strength. 359 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:28,720 I mean, does that help you? 360 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,360 Because I know you're not particularly religious, are you? 361 00:25:31,360 --> 00:25:33,160 No, I'm not religious. 362 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,080 I'm confirmed so I will take communion, 363 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:41,320 but I have no passion for faith, particularly. 364 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,880 And after what has happened, to be honest, 365 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,400 I find it even more difficult 366 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,000 to comprehend how, if there is a God, 367 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:55,160 He would let something happen to our family. Yeah. 368 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,280 Does it get any easier, Chris? That's a difficult one. 369 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,640 Um, I don't think it ever will get easier, will it? 370 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,160 I think it's... I'm just trying to 371 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,760 keep it on the same level at the moment, sort of thing. Yeah. 372 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,560 But, you know, you think about... 373 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,240 ..things. I'm getting upset now. Oh, sorry. 374 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,400 Yeah, no, it's difficult. 375 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,080 It's all the things that she's not going to have, you know. 376 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,200 Like some other women who are victims of male violence, 377 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,040 Bibaa and Nikki were unlucky to be 378 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,200 in the wrong place at the wrong time. 379 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,920 But what happened after they died had nothing to do with bad luck. 380 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,120 REPORTER: Two police officers have been arrested, suspended 381 00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:52,480 for misconduct in a public office over allegations that they shared 382 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,560 selfies beside the bodies of two... 383 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,600 ..PC Lewis and PC Jaffer have been assigned to guard 384 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,360 the crime scene to preserve its integrity, 385 00:27:00,360 --> 00:27:04,000 but the two officers breached the cordon and took photographs 386 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,560 of the two sisters' bodies, which they shared on WhatsApp. 387 00:27:10,120 --> 00:27:14,280 The police officers who were supposed to be 388 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:19,960 protecting the crime scene had taken selfies. 389 00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:24,240 The allegations have been referred to the Metropolitan Police's 390 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,360 Independent Office for Police Conduct, the IOPC, 391 00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:28,960 which is investigating. 392 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,160 They described the allegations as "sickening". 393 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,160 How can I put this so people can understand? 394 00:27:38,360 --> 00:27:42,400 Any reserves we had 395 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,000 were then cut off! 396 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,400 Mina felt the story of the selfies got far more attention 397 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,920 from the media than her daughters' murders. 398 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,840 She is convinced that this - and the slow initial police response - 399 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,960 was because they were black. 400 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,040 She's complained to the police watchdog, the IOPC, 401 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,000 and is waiting for their report. 402 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,960 I am meeting a group of Bibaa's friends, including her auntie 403 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,560 and a cousin. They were at the park 404 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,920 when the officers must have taken the photos of the girls' bodies. 405 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,600 Are you all right? I'm good. I'm good, thank you. 406 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,840 Losing someone that you love, sort of goes without saying, is... 407 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,040 ..so heartbreaking and so traumatic... 408 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:37,440 ..but the idea the two officers 409 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,560 then take photos of Bibaa and Nicole... 410 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:46,120 When that became apparent, how do you deal with that? 411 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,360 I don't know cos obviously we were there for the whole of the time 412 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,000 that they were... We were down the bottom, we saw them coming, 413 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,640 the forensics, we saw them just... 414 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,960 So, like, watching that and then hearing that, I couldn't quite... 415 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,680 I was like, "Did we actually see 416 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,040 "those guys when we were down the bottom?" 417 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,160 You know, police are not supposed to do that. Mm-hm. 418 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:07,680 They're not supposed to do that. 419 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:14,920 They are the tip of the iceberg, I honestly believe that. 420 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,320 They are just what happened to pop up over the surface, 421 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,240 there has to be more. 422 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:25,040 There's 40 other officers that they sent pictures to. 423 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,760 40! 424 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,160 When you send a picture to 40 different people, 425 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,600 you know those 40 people think the way that you think, 426 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,120 have done that before, 427 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,560 would be accepting of the behaviour 428 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,120 that came with those photographs, 429 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,520 That's scary. 430 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,720 That's just 40 that we know of. 431 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,880 It was devastating because on the 432 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,840 Sunday, we were at the park... 433 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,560 ..and the police had just put the cordon...the cordons up, 434 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,320 stopping people from going in. 435 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,280 And, um... 436 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,920 And then my brother started begging. 437 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,200 He begged the police to let him see Bibaa. 438 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,800 And I remember really clearly, the policewoman saying, 439 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,160 "Sorry, we can't do that. 440 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,280 "But we will look after them. 441 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,680 "We will take care of them. 442 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,080 "We will respect them. 443 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,480 "We will promise that," and that was 444 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,640 taken, that was stolen from us, 445 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,840 but it was stolen from them girls. 446 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,560 Those two police officers... 447 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,080 ..did something worse 448 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,440 than them being murdered. 449 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,440 We can't change that, but the 450 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,360 dignity that they deserved 451 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,640 in their death, they took that 452 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,440 from them and I will never forgive 453 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,240 them for that, never. 454 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,240 As well as anger and grief, 455 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,720 Bibaa's cousin is also still struggling to feel safe. 456 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,560 Do you still feel frightened? 457 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:05,640 For months... 458 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,720 ..I stayed in Mum's room for so, so long, 459 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,840 and then you start to isolate and not go places, 460 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,680 and it just changes everything. 461 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,560 You're so on edge, all the time, 462 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,160 like, I don't go very long without calling Mum. 463 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,040 I have to be on the phone all the time. 464 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,520 SHE SNIFFLES 465 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,120 Even coming here, I'm like, "Mum, I've finished work now, 466 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,600 "I'm on my way now, I'm waiting, I'm waiting for you." 467 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,160 It's, like, constant. And sometimes it gets to the point of a joke 468 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,840 and I drive her mad. I'll be calling her at work all the time 469 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,640 and I'll be at work, at my desk. THEY LAUGH 470 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,320 But it's like that sometimes, so... 471 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,520 SHE SNIFFLES 472 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,520 So, yeah. 473 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,400 I think it more just...just puts everything into perspective, 474 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:10,120 but, yeah, you just have to gain back that confidence 475 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:14,200 and go about doing things and make your friends 476 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,040 and the people close to you aware of certain things not to say. 477 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,920 And to make sure cos they forget, when I say, 478 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,080 "Don't joke when I ask you, 'Where are you?' or, 'Are you home?' or..." 479 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,920 Yeah. It's a lot more serious. 480 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,000 A lot more serious. 481 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,560 SHE SNIFFLES 482 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,120 After four weeks in the Old Bailey, 483 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,600 the judge is about to sum up 484 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,080 and send the jury out to consider their verdict. 485 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,560 Mina and Chris have asked me to come to the house of the friend 486 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,240 they've been staying with, to catch up. 487 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,760 Hi! 488 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,600 Since we last talked, they've heard 489 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,880 the gruesome details of their daughters' last moments. 490 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,360 What we had to listen to was 491 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,680 that Bibaa, in fact, 492 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,760 had been taken completely by surprise. 493 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,800 Um, she had ten stab wounds 494 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:27,520 and they now think, because of the angle, that he had two knives. 495 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,440 And there were no defence wounds, 496 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:35,720 that's how they know that she was taken completely by surprise. 497 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:42,920 And, poor little Nic, she had how many stab wounds, darling? 498 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,360 38 now. 38. So it's gone up again, yeah. 499 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,240 38. 500 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:51,480 But what she must have gone through watching Bibaa getting savagely, 501 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,240 you know, just... That's where we all got really upset, obviously, 502 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,040 and just had to walk out. Yeah. Just... 503 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,880 Yeah, and, you know, I don't know. 504 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,240 I'm hoping I won't always remember that. 505 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,000 I don't think you can underestimate what you've been forced to hear 506 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,840 over the last couple of weeks, you know what I mean? 507 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:21,800 You've been so, like, dignified and so bloody strong. 508 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,640 You know what I mean? Because you've said to me, "The gloves are on, 509 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,560 "I have to get this sorted, I have to. 510 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,840 "I have to make sure that... Yeah. .."justice is served." 511 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,920 But...you're human. Yeah. 512 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,240 And they're your girls. 513 00:34:35,240 --> 00:34:37,120 In the natural order of things, 514 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:41,880 nobody expects their children to go before them 515 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:47,640 and, you know, with Covid, people have had terrible times, 516 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,920 but if we'd have lost our girls to Covid... 517 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:57,800 ..we would be a year on in our grief. 518 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:05,600 We have had to go back to day one, all over again, 519 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,800 relive every moment of it, but now 520 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,520 we have the graphics as well, 521 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,480 so, you know, it's like being 522 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,720 part of a thriller movie, 523 00:35:19,720 --> 00:35:22,520 only you're starring in it. 524 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,520 So, you know, you as the viewer are watching it, 525 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,800 and thinking, "This is horrendous. 526 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,760 "Could you imagine this ever happening to you?" Only this time... 527 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,720 It's like an out-of-body experience. Yeah. 528 00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:37,760 Only this time you are in the movie. 529 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:42,320 So this has been your life for a month. Yeah. 530 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,880 How are you feeling about tomorrow? 531 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,000 OK. I feel all right about it, um... 532 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:55,880 ..because, you know, I realise how I cope with this 533 00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:00,480 is by submerging my feelings of a mum. 534 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,600 As a mum, I have... 535 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:08,120 I just want to go and curl up and die somewhere, really, 536 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:13,440 but what keeps me going is justice. 537 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:18,520 Justice. Justice for all women who... 538 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:23,360 You know, Sarah Everard, for women who have been attacked 539 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,800 and raped and murdered, um... 540 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:31,560 Women who, you know, domestic violence through this. 541 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:38,080 You know, we have to get this stuff sorted, you know. 542 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,840 In that, I find my strength. 543 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,320 After just eight hours, the jury returns. 544 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,040 They've reached a unanimous verdict. 545 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,480 REPORTER: A teenager who believed he'd made a pact with a demon 546 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,640 to sacrifice women in order to win the lottery has been convicted 547 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,000 of murdering two sisters 548 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,000 in a park in North West London in June last year. 549 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,200 OK, first and foremost, I want to pay tribute 550 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,560 to the family of Nicole and Bibaa. 551 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:19,160 This investigation has touched all of us so deeply and we are glad 552 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,880 that the jury saw through the ridiculous denials of 553 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,160 the overwhelming evidence in front of them. 554 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,960 The murder trial's done, but Mina and Chris know they'll be 555 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,480 back here soon. The officers who took the selfies 556 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,480 will soon be coming to court and they're also waiting 557 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,560 for the IOPC report into how 558 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,720 the Met handled the missing persons calls that weekend. 559 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,520 I have made no bones about my 560 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,000 complaints with the Met Police office. 561 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,120 Today, I have to say, I can only commend them. 562 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,520 This is the kind of police force that I believe in, 563 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,280 and we need to work towards so that we have justice 564 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,000 and families are treated with respect. 565 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,960 This is an unbelievable day for us, 566 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:09,040 but it's the first and there are two more battles to go. 567 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,120 But today, we remember our girls 568 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,760 as the wonderful, strong women they were. 569 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,080 The whole court case is a drama in itself, you know, with the guys 570 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,560 in their wigs and the ladies and all the court people moving around 571 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,960 and the jury. The whole situation was, you know, out of my context. 572 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,920 Can you tell us a bit about Nicole and Bibaa? 573 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,080 I think Mina's sort of activist work 574 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,640 at the moment is what's keeping her going. 575 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,640 You know, that's the positive for her. 576 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:42,160 We're surrounded by photographs, we're surrounded by... 577 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,680 Well, we're still surrounded by what's been going on with 578 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,960 the court cases and people now picking up on Mina 579 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,920 cos she's such a good speaker. 580 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,960 So it's not being hidden away. 581 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,720 Mina, thank you for talking to us. 582 00:38:57,720 --> 00:39:01,280 Could you ever imagine forgiving him? I already have. 583 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:07,240 As a priest, I've done sermons. 584 00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:10,840 When we hold hatred for someone, 585 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:15,920 it's not only them who are held captive, it's you. 586 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,520 And that's the gift. 587 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,040 He has no power in our lives. 588 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,120 So, my personal battle is still 589 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:29,720 trying to distract as much as possible to stop me thinking 590 00:39:29,720 --> 00:39:31,760 about the awfulness of what happened. 591 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,040 And I don't think that will ever go. 592 00:39:45,720 --> 00:39:48,360 14 months after the girls' death, 593 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,640 a campaign group set up after the murder of Sarah Everard, 594 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,040 Reclaim These Streets... 595 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,440 Hello, thank you for coming. 596 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,160 ..is holding a vigil in Fryent Park to remember Bibaa and Nikki. 597 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,320 It's the first time Mina has been 598 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,120 to the place her daughters were murdered 599 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,080 and the first time Chris has returned since 600 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,480 the day their bodies were found. 601 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,320 I feel compelled to go now, 602 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:16,000 just reflecting on the girls' lives that I feel 603 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,360 I will let them down if I don't. 604 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:24,800 The reason I didn't want to go back to the park was because of how awful 605 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,960 that day was. And the thought of going back, knowing what happened 606 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,760 there now in more detail, 607 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,800 emotionally, I just didn't feel I needed to do that. 608 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,760 But, in the end, I couldn't leave Mina to go on her own. 609 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,640 I look around and what do I see? 610 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,160 I see beauty everywhere. 611 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:49,240 As a teacher and a priest, I have given my life over 612 00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:54,600 to raising boys and girls up that people look down on 613 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,520 and didn't think that they could ever be anybody. 614 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,880 Now I'm doing it for my girls. 615 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,360 I am so sick and tired of 616 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:10,840 white, grey, boring old men 617 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,600 telling us how to live our lives! 618 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,640 CROWD CHEERS AND WHOOPS 619 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,920 Who knew about our girls? 620 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:26,600 Why wasn't the outcry there on two dead black girls? 621 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,200 And it wasn't because I hadn't done interviews, 622 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,640 it didn't get the air time. 623 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,240 It wasn't on the front page. 624 00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:38,800 And I'm calling out all the editors and producers 625 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,000 and the people who decide what is put in print. 626 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,480 We're going to be on front page because I am only just beginning! 627 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,320 CROWD CHEERS AND WHOOPS 628 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,640 As well as being angry with the media, Mina is still outraged that 629 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,160 the Met Police didn't respond quickly enough to 630 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,040 the missing persons reports that weekend. 631 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,360 I appreciate you...I appreciate you being here. 632 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,120 HE SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY 633 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:17,600 But it is important you speak up and we're so supportive. 634 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,560 She hopes the police watchdog will say race did play a part 635 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,280 in the police response. 636 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,360 The fact that no officers were sent to the park meant that Adam 637 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,640 had to find the bodies of his girlfriend and her sister. 638 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,000 What he saw that day has left him traumatised 639 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,200 and though he supported us making this film, 640 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,360 he couldn't bring himself to talk about Nikki on camera. 641 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:49,840 Hey, Jill. 642 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:53,960 But his mum and dad, Jill and Dave, do want to share their memories 643 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,440 of the girl who they thought of as a daughter. 644 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,080 Mina said to me, Nikki and Adam 645 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,960 was like a modern-day love story. 646 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,760 Yeah. They were just two peas in a pod. 647 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,040 So she lived here with you for five years. 648 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,920 Yeah, nearly five years, it was, yeah. That's a long time. 649 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,200 Well, it was a joy to me, 650 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,360 because having two boys and a husband, you know, 651 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,200 it was lovely. It was, you know, 652 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,120 like having a daughter living in the house, yeah. 653 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,160 You weren't outnumbered. No, I wasn't. No, no. 654 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:29,320 She was bright and bubbly, um, 655 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,040 so unassuming about things. 656 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:34,840 You never heard her say a bad word about anything. 657 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:41,000 They were super creative, weren't they, together? 658 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,880 They would make videos and... Both artists, really. 659 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,000 She had the most beautiful voice. 660 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,440 She really did have the most beautiful singing voice. 661 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:54,720 # I'm off to swim the river 662 00:43:54,720 --> 00:43:59,560 # Regardless of the weather 663 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:07,240 # It helps to build a bond between... # 664 00:44:07,240 --> 00:44:09,320 How is Adam doing? 665 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,280 Well, we spent the first couple of months, 666 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,160 this was our bedroom in here. 667 00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:18,120 Cos he found it too difficult to go 668 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,520 in his bedroom that he shared with Nicole. 669 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,480 The only way I can sort of describe it with him is to say he's lost. 670 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,520 He's just completely lost, isn't he? 671 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,920 It's...it's very hard... 672 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:39,560 ..to see him as he is now. 673 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,360 He probably feels that he's not going to meet somebody like that 674 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,920 again, which must be pretty hard. 675 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,600 Yeah, bless her, Mina has always been absolutely lovely, 676 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,600 hasn't she, about it? You know, she's always said 677 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,120 nothing would please her more 678 00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,800 than to hear, you know, he's found... Found somebody else. 679 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,960 Yeah, yeah. To, you know, share things with. 680 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,520 My understanding is... 681 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,240 ..something that really infuriates 682 00:45:11,240 --> 00:45:13,440 her, understandably so, 683 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,560 is the fact that Adam had 684 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,160 to find his Nikki. 685 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,800 You know, it can take people a long time to get over grief, 686 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:25,280 but...and all the different sides of grief, but it is 687 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,880 that vision that you just can't do anything about. 688 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,160 And you just wish you could erase it, but you can't 689 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:35,720 So... 690 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,440 Another tough day has come for Mina and Chris. 691 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,800 More than 15 months after Mina's initial complaint to 692 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,200 the police watchdog, the report on the Met's response to 693 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,840 the missing persons calls has finally been published. 694 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,200 "The Met Police Service has been advised to apologise to 695 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,360 "the family of Nicole Smallman and Bibaa Henry 696 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,240 "for failings identified by an independent officer 697 00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:12,440 "for police conduct..." - so that's the IOPC - 698 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,000 "..into the way it handled missing persons reports about the sisters." 699 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,320 There's an interesting line here. 700 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,760 "A call handler will also receive a management action 701 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,080 "after they referred to a missing person as a suspect. 702 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,200 "The evidence did not indicate that this was a result of stereotyping 703 00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:37,680 "or biased assumptions based on the sisters' race or where they lived." 704 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,120 I can understand why some people find that hard to believe 705 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,720 or it feels contradictory because earlier on... 706 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,000 ..you know, they're using the word "suspect". 707 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,680 So, where have you got that word from? 708 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:58,440 Even subconsciously, why are you using that word when there's no talk 709 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,400 of the girls being a suspect? 710 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,680 They're the victims. 711 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,720 How many times can one family be let down? 712 00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:09,840 Hi. Hello, Stacey. Welcome. 713 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,920 Mina has been waiting a long time for the report to be completed 714 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,880 and was hoping it would say that 715 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,240 race was a factor in how things were handled. 716 00:47:19,240 --> 00:47:22,080 Ah, girl. 717 00:47:19,240 --> 00:47:22,080 MINA CHUCKLES 718 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,560 Oh, my tonic has arrived. Oh, I don't know about that. 719 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,720 Give us your coat. Oh, thanks, mate. 720 00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:31,720 She hasn't been answering her phone for the last couple of days 721 00:47:31,720 --> 00:47:35,120 and Chris tells me the report has hit her hard. 722 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,880 I've come to Ramsgate to see how she's doing. 723 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,480 Mina, how are you feeling today? 724 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,960 Um, better than the last few days. 725 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,040 The IOPC report... 726 00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:54,040 ..we had to read it through and... 727 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,640 ..it's just so frustrating. 728 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,960 And you try to move forward. 729 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:03,880 You try... 730 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:13,160 ..and, uh, move from the pain, but all of this, 731 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,600 this missing persons, 732 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:20,320 that report represents a time in our lives where 733 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:25,000 we were desperate for our children, to find them, 734 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:29,520 that we had to put our own search party together 735 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,280 and the Met wants to offer us an apology? 736 00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:36,800 Are they mad? 737 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:40,560 What are they thinking? 738 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,240 "Sorry" is what you say when you bump into somebody. 739 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,320 This is me, Mum. 740 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,280 This is Mum. 741 00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,280 SHE SNIFFLES 742 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,000 And this is the consequence, 743 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,200 so what happens is your 744 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:03,600 energy levels go to the ground 745 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:09,080 and if you keep pushing, then I would... 746 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:13,400 ..I could go back to being bedridden again, 747 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,320 and so, you know, I just have energy 748 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:22,200 to shower and that's it. 749 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,480 I haven't even got energy to moisturise my body. 750 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:31,280 You know, I thought I'd make an effort and put earrings in. 751 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,760 SHE EXHALES SHARPLY 752 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:52,920 But I thought it was important that people get to see 753 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,760 all aspects of this story 754 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,040 because normally when I'm like this, 755 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,680 I don't allow people to see me. 756 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:05,600 I retreat and just regain my energy, 757 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,600 but I thought it was really important 758 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:15,320 that people understand that, on top of everything else, 759 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:19,280 we still have our conditions 760 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:24,080 and the toll that it's taking on our lives. 761 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:31,360 You know, I hide away when I'm like this because I feel less than... 762 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,080 ..and I don't want pity or... 763 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:40,120 ..but this is...this is what a mother's grief looks like. 764 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,360 And the sense of injustice is like... 765 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:53,960 ..it just makes everything ten times worse 766 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,120 because you can't move forward. 767 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,400 REPORTER: Two former police officers who took pictures of two 768 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,240 murdered sisters in a London park 769 00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:22,480 and then shared them on WhatsApp groups 770 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:26,360 have each been jailed for nearly three years. PCs Deniz Jaffer... 771 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,480 ..47 and 33-year-old Jamie Lewis pleaded guilty 772 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,400 to misconduct in a public office. Our correspondent... 773 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:36,600 18 months to the day after Bibaa and Nikki were killed, 774 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,440 Mina is talking to the press from the steps of the Old Bailey 775 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,880 for what she hopes will be the very last time. 776 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,600 The two officers caught sharing photos have pleaded guilty 777 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,520 and have just been sentenced. 778 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,760 What's your reaction to two years, nine months? 779 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,760 Uh, thrilled, actually. 780 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:58,120 We thought that they would be given a suspended sentence, 781 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,640 but I think the judge really got it. 782 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,120 The court process is finally over 783 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,240 and the two Met policemen are on their way to prison. 784 00:52:07,240 --> 00:52:09,520 As Queen Elizabeth I said, 785 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:13,200 "I do not have windows into men's souls," 786 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:18,640 but I would say they are more sorry that they got caught 787 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,720 than they are about what they did. 788 00:52:21,720 --> 00:52:24,720 I feel sorry for their family. 789 00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:28,840 I... You know, I know it's not going to be easy for them, 790 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,200 but it hasn't been easy for us 791 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:35,000 and this additional pain and suffering we've gone through 792 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,400 could have been avoided. 793 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,840 I'm hoping this sends a signal to the Met 794 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,960 and all other police forces, 795 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:48,480 and gives strength to those who are being abused and hearing language 796 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:52,160 that they detest, but are afraid to speak up. 797 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,640 Speak up! Now's the time. 798 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:58,440 The good people are the ones that should have voice. 799 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,680 They're the ones who should have the power. 800 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,120 That's me. I'm done. Well done, Mina. 801 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,640 SHE CHUCKLES Thank you. Thank you. Thanks. 802 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,000 Right, let's go in and disappear for a bit. 803 00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:38,440 Almost nine months after we first talked at their house in Ramsgate, 804 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:42,400 Chris and Mina have invited me to Canterbury Cathedral once again. 805 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,800 Let's get a shovel. There's one over there. 806 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:50,160 The dean has suggested they plant a cherry tree in the cathedral gardens 807 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:51,560 in memory of the girls. 808 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:57,000 Do you want to just say the names of your girls as we do this? 809 00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:01,240 Mina's friend, Rose Hudson-Wilkin, the Bishop of Dover, 810 00:54:01,240 --> 00:54:03,160 is leading the ceremony. 811 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,680 Lord, this is for our girls. 812 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:12,000 May this tree be so beautiful that it stops people in their tracks. 813 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,640 That they may be remembered. 814 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:20,520 So, Lord, bless this tree as we plant it 815 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,600 and bless all those who will come 816 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:26,000 and who will see it and admire its beauty. 817 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:30,400 May they also, deep in their hearts, 818 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:35,880 know the beauty of Mina's and Chris' children. 819 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:37,920 Amen. Amen. Amen. 820 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,080 Oh, I'm so pleased it's here, this is perfect. 821 00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,800 It's beautiful. The place of it is perfect. 822 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,880 We'll be able to come here, 823 00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:54,000 rather than the park where the girls were murdered. 824 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:59,480 We can think of them without being in the place of terror. Mm. 825 00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,920 Are you in less pain now? 826 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,520 No. No. 827 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:13,280 Every time a young woman goes missing 828 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:17,320 or, you know, we get another revelation into 829 00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:23,040 the toxic culture within police forces, we go right back to day one. 830 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:24,440 Just every time anyone mentions 831 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:28,240 Nikki and Bib, I get a bit tearful, 832 00:55:28,240 --> 00:55:30,120 but, like everything, it's a wave. 833 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,600 It come and goes in waves, you know. 834 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,800 Just have to keep thinking of other things 835 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,720 and distract all the time... Yeah. 836 00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:41,840 And I had my meltdown yesterday 837 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,160 and Chris took such good care of me. 838 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:49,240 And I know he's been really upset today so, 839 00:55:49,240 --> 00:55:52,160 you know, I'll take care of him. 840 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,280 And, you know, we're so silly, 841 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:55,320 the two of us, 842 00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,240 we love a laugh and we... 843 00:55:57,240 --> 00:55:58,720 I'm so cheeky to him 844 00:55:58,720 --> 00:56:00,600 and he's so cheeky to me, 845 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,000 and that's how we get through it, 846 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,600 you know, we try and find something. 847 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:08,440 He's so grounding and, you know, 848 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,760 I'm the overthinker, I'm the deep thinker, 849 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,200 but he grounds me. 850 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,840 If I didn't have him with me, 851 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,480 I would constantly be mulling over 852 00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,520 the nightmare of this story. 853 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:27,640 I would...I would just be so in on myself. 854 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:32,640 And when it's like that, it can be very, very dark. 855 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,440 And so he pulls me out of it. 856 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,560 HE MOUTHS 857 00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:44,120 How would you like people to remember the girls? 858 00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:51,560 As fun, outgoing girls who, you know, got on with life 859 00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,400 and made friends easily 860 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,680 and enjoyed a good party with their mum, particularly. Mm. 861 00:56:59,240 --> 00:57:00,960 It's really important to me 862 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:06,360 that we remember how they lived, not how they died. 863 00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,800 Bibaa, the amazing social worker, 864 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,760 who battled to make sure children were safe, 865 00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,800 that families weren't broken up. 866 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,600 THEY SPEAK INDISTINCTLY 867 00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,240 THEY CHUCKLE 868 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,800 And Nikki, she was just a ray of light everywhere 869 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,040 and I know that will always be the way. 870 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,040 And I think that's what we need to do, we need to find 871 00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:31,840 the sunshine in the rain. 872 00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:03,560 # Love 873 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:13,880 # Love 874 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:21,320 # My love 875 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:33,440 # My love 876 00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:41,080 # My love 877 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:48,560 # My 878 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:54,840 # Love. # 112899

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