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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:49,286 --> 00:00:50,078 - [boy] Daddy! 2 00:01:15,752 --> 00:01:16,135 - [woman] Good morning, Charles. 3 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:17,022 - [Charles] Good morning. 4 00:01:21,574 --> 00:01:30,969 [news on radio] 5 00:01:33,492 --> 00:01:33,973 - [Charles] Can I see that one? 6 00:01:33,998 --> 00:01:34,691 - [man] Mm-hmm. 7 00:01:37,256 --> 00:01:41,071 Ten-round clip, one-round chamber, double-action. 8 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:42,373 - [Charles] How much? 9 00:01:43,234 --> 00:01:44,390 - [man] $118.50 with tax. 10 00:01:47,110 --> 00:01:47,534 - I'll take it. 11 00:01:48,610 --> 00:01:49,306 - There's a fifteen day waiting period. 12 00:01:50,304 --> 00:01:50,815 - [Charles] You need an ID? 13 00:01:51,332 --> 00:01:52,541 - No, just a California driver's license. 14 00:01:55,409 --> 00:01:56,262 Gotta ask you a couple of questions. 15 00:01:57,258 --> 00:01:58,304 Have you ever been a mental patient 16 00:01:58,329 --> 00:02:00,123 on a leave of absence from a mental hospital? 17 00:02:01,575 --> 00:02:02,320 - Lemme think. 18 00:02:03,316 --> 00:02:03,702 No. 19 00:02:03,727 --> 00:02:05,797 - Have you ever been found by a court of law 20 00:02:05,822 --> 00:02:09,129 to be a danger to others as a result of a mental disorder? 21 00:02:09,154 --> 00:02:09,896 - No. 22 00:02:10,574 --> 00:02:11,773 - Fill out the rest of this. 23 00:02:12,495 --> 00:02:14,473 I'll see you December 21st. Merry Christmas. 24 00:02:14,498 --> 00:02:15,351 - Thank you. 25 00:03:20,388 --> 00:03:25,745 [whistling] 26 00:03:27,296 --> 00:03:27,707 - Yes? 27 00:03:33,940 --> 00:03:35,906 [gunshots] 28 00:03:37,409 --> 00:03:37,913 - Mother! 29 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:45,443 No. 30 00:03:46,831 --> 00:03:47,238 [gunshot] 31 00:03:47,263 --> 00:03:47,882 No, please! 32 00:03:47,907 --> 00:03:48,708 [gunshot] 33 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:59,464 [crying] 34 00:04:19,896 --> 00:04:20,813 - The Lord said to me, 35 00:04:22,248 --> 00:04:23,138 You are my son, 36 00:04:23,924 --> 00:04:25,475 this day have I begotten you. 37 00:04:25,500 --> 00:04:28,593 [woman crying] 38 00:04:28,618 --> 00:04:32,549 [Charles breathing heavily] 39 00:04:35,061 --> 00:04:37,738 Lord, our God, with the birth of your son, 40 00:04:38,597 --> 00:04:40,126 your glory breaks on the world. 41 00:04:41,296 --> 00:04:42,630 Through night hours of the darkened earth, 42 00:04:42,655 --> 00:04:46,445 we, your people, watch for the coming of your promised son. 43 00:04:46,470 --> 00:04:50,460 - [woman crying] No, no... 44 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:52,953 No... [crying] 45 00:04:52,978 --> 00:04:56,800 - As we wait, give us a foretaste of the joy that you will grant us 46 00:04:56,825 --> 00:04:59,579 when the fullness of his glory has filled the earth. 47 00:04:59,604 --> 00:05:02,983 - [woman crying] Oh, no... 48 00:05:05,268 --> 00:05:07,029 [Charles breathing heavily] 49 00:05:08,813 --> 00:05:09,953 Please... 50 00:05:17,625 --> 00:05:23,219 [tiger growling] 51 00:05:25,708 --> 00:05:27,043 - The word of God became man, 52 00:05:27,990 --> 00:05:29,046 we have seen his glory. 53 00:05:29,071 --> 00:05:32,995 God, our Father, we rejoice in the birth of our Savior. 54 00:05:34,064 --> 00:05:37,439 May we share his life completely by living as he has taught. 55 00:05:38,922 --> 00:05:41,719 We ask this in the name of Jesus Christ, our Lord. 56 00:05:41,744 --> 00:05:42,761 - [together] Amen. 57 00:05:45,860 --> 00:05:46,603 - [Priest] The body of Christ... 58 00:05:46,628 --> 00:05:47,973 [woman crying] 59 00:05:47,998 --> 00:05:48,996 The body of Christ... 60 00:05:50,622 --> 00:05:51,220 The body of Christ... 61 00:05:53,064 --> 00:05:53,634 The body of Christ... 62 00:05:56,063 --> 00:05:56,905 The body of Christ... 63 00:05:59,387 --> 00:05:59,983 The body of Christ... 64 00:06:02,483 --> 00:06:03,174 The body of Christ... 65 00:06:05,874 --> 00:06:06,625 The body of Christ... 66 00:06:10,985 --> 00:06:11,606 The body of Christ... 67 00:06:11,631 --> 00:06:12,173 - Amen. 68 00:06:14,465 --> 00:06:14,995 - The body of Christ... 69 00:06:15,020 --> 00:06:15,482 - Amen. 70 00:06:18,199 --> 00:06:18,897 [telephone ringing] 71 00:06:22,035 --> 00:06:23,397 [telephone ringing] 72 00:06:35,997 --> 00:06:36,440 Sally Ann. 73 00:06:36,465 --> 00:06:37,685 - [Sally Ann] Morning, Tony. How are you doing today? 74 00:06:41,116 --> 00:06:42,589 Sorry, Tony, you can't go in yet. 75 00:06:42,614 --> 00:06:44,304 - Hi, Tony. Uh, let's move away from the door. 76 00:06:46,215 --> 00:06:46,763 - What's goin' on, Harry? 77 00:06:46,788 --> 00:06:48,289 - I, uh, I had to borrow your office for a few minutes. 78 00:06:49,134 --> 00:06:49,727 - Who are these guys? 79 00:06:49,752 --> 00:06:50,299 - Uh, federal narcs. 80 00:06:50,324 --> 00:06:51,183 - [Tony] Who's in my office? 81 00:06:51,208 --> 00:06:53,232 - [Harry] Cordenas. And the narcs are gonna talk to him when I'm through. 82 00:06:54,128 --> 00:06:55,538 - Cordenas is gonna talk to you after three months? 83 00:06:55,709 --> 00:06:56,713 - He already has. 84 00:06:57,255 --> 00:06:58,463 - Why, did cops kill a federal agent? 85 00:06:58,488 --> 00:06:59,227 - Mm-hmm. 86 00:07:00,411 --> 00:07:01,055 - Great. What did you give him? 87 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:01,880 - What can I say? 88 00:07:03,504 --> 00:07:04,351 - Great. Can I have my office back? 89 00:07:04,376 --> 00:07:07,564 - Well, uh, just a few minutes. Uh, why don't we get a cup of coffee. 90 00:07:08,715 --> 00:07:09,862 - What's he doing in my office? 91 00:07:10,148 --> 00:07:11,385 - He got his wife in there with him. 92 00:07:11,410 --> 00:07:13,851 Tony, I promised him a contact visit if he told me what I needed. 93 00:07:13,876 --> 00:07:15,871 - You're letting Cordenas use my office as a trick pad? 94 00:07:16,529 --> 00:07:17,661 - Hey, it's his wife, Tony. 95 00:07:17,686 --> 00:07:19,606 - I told him use the couch, not your desk. 96 00:07:20,673 --> 00:07:21,124 - [Tony] Great. 97 00:07:21,149 --> 00:07:22,281 - I warned him keep the place clean. - Great. This is great. 98 00:07:22,306 --> 00:07:23,668 Sally Ann, would you ring my office? 99 00:07:25,008 --> 00:07:26,059 Gotta be in court. 100 00:07:26,084 --> 00:07:27,371 - This is important, too, you know. 101 00:07:27,396 --> 00:07:28,528 [laughing] 102 00:07:31,220 --> 00:07:33,220 - Mr. Cordenas, 103 00:07:33,246 --> 00:07:33,763 are you free? 104 00:07:34,669 --> 00:07:35,229 One moment. 105 00:07:35,254 --> 00:07:38,859 [shouting over the phone] 106 00:07:39,591 --> 00:07:41,245 - Mr. Cordenas, would you stop whatever you're doing 107 00:07:41,270 --> 00:07:42,386 and come out here, please. 108 00:07:42,411 --> 00:07:46,890 [shouting over the phone] 109 00:07:51,383 --> 00:07:52,398 - Hey, man. What is this shit? 110 00:07:52,423 --> 00:07:53,903 I still got ten minutes coming. 111 00:07:54,921 --> 00:07:55,851 - It's out of my hands, pal. 112 00:07:55,876 --> 00:07:56,395 [door slamming] 113 00:08:01,802 --> 00:08:02,715 - On the [inaudible 08:01] park stabbings, 114 00:08:03,535 --> 00:08:05,997 see if we can bring in someone that'll say that the defendant 115 00:08:06,022 --> 00:08:09,109 with, uh, 33BA would still know that a broken wine bottle 116 00:08:09,134 --> 00:08:09,914 is a deadly weapon. 117 00:08:11,331 --> 00:08:13,301 And tell the city cops to go back to the park, 118 00:08:14,902 --> 00:08:16,377 see if they can find the victim's nose. 119 00:08:17,646 --> 00:08:19,854 Oh, uh, Kate's father is coming in for New Year's 120 00:08:19,879 --> 00:08:20,870 so remind me. 121 00:08:36,965 --> 00:08:37,560 Hi, hon. 122 00:08:37,585 --> 00:08:38,119 - [Kate] Hi. 123 00:08:39,218 --> 00:08:40,025 Tried to reach you this afternoon. 124 00:08:40,628 --> 00:08:41,597 - Anything special? 125 00:08:42,627 --> 00:08:43,142 - I thought we could have lunch. 126 00:08:44,449 --> 00:08:45,450 I called the office. They said you were gone. 127 00:08:45,475 --> 00:08:46,590 - Ah, I wish I would've known. 128 00:08:47,417 --> 00:08:48,123 - You didn't get my message? 129 00:08:48,811 --> 00:08:50,170 - We had two murder arraignments this morning, 130 00:08:50,195 --> 00:08:51,876 then I had to go back to court this afternoon 131 00:08:51,901 --> 00:08:53,860 to get bail raised for that guy in the arson case. 132 00:08:54,709 --> 00:08:55,173 - Did you get it? 133 00:08:55,198 --> 00:08:55,847 - Yes, I did. 134 00:08:56,577 --> 00:08:57,813 - Hmm. You look tired. 135 00:08:58,274 --> 00:08:58,978 - Come 'ere. 136 00:09:03,117 --> 00:09:08,220 [phone ringing] 137 00:09:10,152 --> 00:09:10,568 Hello? 138 00:09:14,671 --> 00:09:15,329 Yeah, I'm awake. 139 00:09:17,949 --> 00:09:20,080 I don't know if Major Crimes Deputy is on duty tonight, Mel, 140 00:09:20,105 --> 00:09:20,990 I think you should just dial the-- 141 00:09:20,991 --> 00:09:21,666 - [Kate] What's wrong? 142 00:09:25,561 --> 00:09:26,135 - Alright, just a sec. 143 00:09:27,128 --> 00:09:28,924 Let me get a piece of paper and pen. 144 00:09:36,924 --> 00:09:37,575 Okay. 145 00:09:39,925 --> 00:09:40,303 What? 146 00:09:43,992 --> 00:09:44,364 Okay. 147 00:09:45,839 --> 00:09:46,352 I gotta go out. 148 00:09:46,377 --> 00:09:48,020 - Where are you going? 149 00:09:50,515 --> 00:09:58,224 [railway crossing bell ringing] 150 00:10:05,022 --> 00:10:14,407 [train steam whistling] 151 00:10:34,448 --> 00:10:35,122 - [cop] Stand back, please. 152 00:10:35,148 --> 00:10:36,406 Stand back, please. 153 00:10:37,999 --> 00:10:38,720 Behind the line, please. 154 00:10:48,759 --> 00:10:49,635 - [Mel] I've never seen anything like this. 155 00:10:52,411 --> 00:10:53,548 One victim down here, then the two upstairs. 156 00:10:55,109 --> 00:10:57,003 No signs of forced entry. Nothing missing. 157 00:11:02,183 --> 00:11:03,065 - [Tony] Oh, jeez. 158 00:11:05,054 --> 00:11:05,628 Who were they? 159 00:11:05,653 --> 00:11:08,688 - [Mel] The one who owns the house, Mrs. Barbara Ellis, divorcee. 160 00:11:08,713 --> 00:11:12,075 The other two are her mother and father, Mr. and Mrs. Robert Hedrickson. 161 00:11:12,100 --> 00:11:13,914 The rest of the house is undisturbed. 162 00:11:14,833 --> 00:11:17,028 Just some blood downstairs and the hallway in here. 163 00:11:17,053 --> 00:11:18,864 I don't think it was a robbery, 164 00:11:18,889 --> 00:11:20,669 and I don't think it was somebody the victims knew. 165 00:11:20,694 --> 00:11:24,001 The women were shot, dragged upstairs, and then mutilated. 166 00:11:24,026 --> 00:11:25,758 The man downstairs was shot and just left there. 167 00:11:27,557 --> 00:11:28,272 - Christ. 168 00:11:32,426 --> 00:11:33,014 George. 169 00:11:37,748 --> 00:11:39,895 - I thought I'd seen it all. Nothin' like this ever. 170 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,266 - What happened? 171 00:11:41,291 --> 00:11:44,549 - The victims were all killed in the same fashion, probably yesterday. 172 00:11:44,574 --> 00:11:46,181 Cause of death is fairly obvious. 173 00:11:46,207 --> 00:11:49,695 Gunshots to the head, small caliber bullet, probably .22 174 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,425 - Yeah, but what about the other ones-- 175 00:11:51,450 --> 00:11:53,673 - The women's bodies were cut open to get at the organs. 176 00:11:53,698 --> 00:11:55,485 God knows why. 177 00:11:55,509 --> 00:11:57,483 Some of the organs were removed. 178 00:12:19,432 --> 00:12:23,092 December 27th, 1986. Home of Barbara Ellis. 179 00:12:55,018 --> 00:12:58,447 [clock ticking] 180 00:13:00,698 --> 00:13:01,528 - [doctor] Do you still feel a pulse? 181 00:13:01,553 --> 00:13:02,647 - [nurse] Pulses are faint. 182 00:13:02,672 --> 00:13:04,936 - [doctor] Let's get the PD cuff for blood pressure, please. 183 00:13:06,595 --> 00:13:08,490 - [nurse] Okay, blood pressure's a hundred [inaudible 13:07]. 184 00:13:10,769 --> 00:13:11,607 Can't get anything. 185 00:13:11,632 --> 00:13:13,638 - [doctor] Uh, let's get some dopamine. Start a drip, please. 186 00:13:16,003 --> 00:13:17,174 - [nurse] Here's the dopamine added to the IV. 187 00:13:18,781 --> 00:13:20,125 The dopamine's up, wide open. 188 00:13:21,483 --> 00:13:22,367 Did she get a pressure yet? 189 00:13:22,392 --> 00:13:24,179 - [nurse] Barely. Pulses are faint. 190 00:13:26,216 --> 00:13:27,272 - [doctor] Speed up the dopamine a bit more. 191 00:13:28,805 --> 00:13:29,247 - [nurse] Still wide open. 192 00:13:29,272 --> 00:13:30,202 Coming up, [inaudible 13:28]. Coming up, [inaudible 13:29]. 193 00:13:30,227 --> 00:13:32,227 - [nurse] I'm feeling pulses. 194 00:13:32,252 --> 00:13:33,107 - Do we have any back-up? 195 00:13:33,132 --> 00:13:34,052 - [doctor] Yes, slow it down. 196 00:13:34,077 --> 00:13:36,077 - [nurse] Okay, [inaudible 13:34]. 197 00:13:36,102 --> 00:13:37,232 Very powerful volt. 198 00:13:37,257 --> 00:13:39,556 [monitor beeping] 199 00:13:39,581 --> 00:13:41,482 - [nurse] Let's see the monitor. 200 00:13:43,024 --> 00:13:43,799 - [doctor] Sinus passage... 201 00:13:43,824 --> 00:13:44,490 - What's wrong with her? 202 00:13:44,514 --> 00:13:47,674 - We restored her heartbeat but her brain is no longer functioning. 203 00:13:49,726 --> 00:13:53,092 - No! Tony! [crying] 204 00:13:53,117 --> 00:13:55,601 Why was she even born to die like this? 205 00:13:57,555 --> 00:13:58,434 - It has to be your decision. 206 00:13:59,955 --> 00:14:01,558 - [Kate] No! Why? [crying] 207 00:14:01,583 --> 00:14:08,792 [monitor beeping] 208 00:14:22,415 --> 00:14:23,437 - [doctor] It has to be your decision. 209 00:14:49,009 --> 00:14:50,197 - [Gene] Okay, boys, come help me cover him up. 210 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:53,082 Come on. 211 00:14:57,668 --> 00:14:59,203 Now, let's say goodbye to Juno one last time. 212 00:15:01,799 --> 00:15:02,422 Why don't you get your rake and help me? 213 00:15:04,404 --> 00:15:06,678 Oh, Juno. He's gonna be chasing cats in heaven now. 214 00:15:06,703 --> 00:15:07,919 Alright. 215 00:15:08,788 --> 00:15:09,680 - Bye, Juno. 216 00:15:14,675 --> 00:15:15,451 - [Gene] It's gonna be alright. 217 00:15:16,961 --> 00:15:18,048 Andy, he's gonna be alright. 218 00:15:22,585 --> 00:15:23,494 Andy, stop that. 219 00:15:23,518 --> 00:15:25,518 - Oh, he just doesn't like going to the dentist. 220 00:15:25,543 --> 00:15:27,638 - Well, that's no excuse for trashing a car. 221 00:15:29,351 --> 00:15:30,235 I'll take him over there. 222 00:15:31,236 --> 00:15:32,671 Then bring him home, then I gotta scoot by the plant. 223 00:15:32,696 --> 00:15:34,379 - I suppose you haven't called the police. 224 00:15:35,507 --> 00:15:37,873 - Eileen, you and I both know that Charlie Reece killed that dog. 225 00:15:37,898 --> 00:15:39,559 Now, I'm not gonna let him get away with that. 226 00:15:40,402 --> 00:15:41,573 - I just don't want any trouble from him. 227 00:15:41,598 --> 00:15:43,378 - Honey, we'll just let the police handle it, alright? 228 00:15:43,403 --> 00:15:45,525 Bye bye, Aaron, be a good boy. 229 00:15:45,550 --> 00:15:45,935 - [Andy] Bye. 230 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:46,532 - Bye. 231 00:15:46,557 --> 00:15:47,403 - [Eileen] Wave bye. 232 00:15:48,537 --> 00:15:49,125 - Wave bye bye. 233 00:15:49,150 --> 00:15:50,650 - Bye, Mom. Bye, Aaron. 234 00:15:50,675 --> 00:15:51,589 - [together] Bye! 235 00:15:51,614 --> 00:15:52,538 - [Gene] We'll be back soon. 236 00:15:53,432 --> 00:15:54,373 - Come on. Let's go finish breakfast. 237 00:15:54,398 --> 00:15:57,016 I'll take you to the park, we'll take your toys, 238 00:15:57,041 --> 00:15:59,214 and then when Andy gets back... 239 00:16:02,442 --> 00:16:05,213 Alright, maybe we'll go to the park in a little while, okay? Come on. 240 00:16:05,238 --> 00:16:09,132 [TV show in the background] 241 00:16:21,798 --> 00:16:22,543 Aaron, are you through? 242 00:16:22,568 --> 00:16:23,547 - [Aaron] Yeah. 243 00:16:23,572 --> 00:16:24,756 - Okay, sweetheart. 244 00:16:42,354 --> 00:16:49,294 [Charles whistling] 245 00:16:54,149 --> 00:16:54,981 - What are you doing in here? 246 00:16:57,268 --> 00:16:59,038 Just go on home now, you hear me? Just go on. 247 00:17:01,897 --> 00:17:03,170 Charles, what are you doing here? 248 00:17:04,137 --> 00:17:05,961 Please, leave. Just go away. Please. 249 00:17:07,462 --> 00:17:08,115 [gasping] 250 00:17:09,583 --> 00:17:10,078 - Gun. 251 00:17:10,103 --> 00:17:11,038 - I'm sorry. 252 00:17:12,017 --> 00:17:14,206 - Aaron! Aaron! 253 00:17:14,231 --> 00:17:15,111 [plate crashing] 254 00:17:15,136 --> 00:17:17,136 - When, uh, we catch the suspect, 255 00:17:17,161 --> 00:17:22,537 we're not gonna bargain, no deals, no psycho cop out, 256 00:17:22,563 --> 00:17:24,650 nothing less than death penalty. 257 00:17:26,191 --> 00:17:28,743 Some of you didn't vote for me but I intend to show the state, 258 00:17:29,912 --> 00:17:30,532 maybe the country, 259 00:17:31,918 --> 00:17:33,804 how a crime like this is handled in this county. 260 00:17:34,759 --> 00:17:36,451 Tony, I'd like you to give us a progress report. 261 00:17:38,262 --> 00:17:40,511 - Uhm. Uh, we have a description of a man, 262 00:17:41,770 --> 00:17:44,301 six feet, a hundred and forty to a hundred and fifty pounds, 263 00:17:45,665 --> 00:17:47,350 red coat, sunglasses, 264 00:17:48,326 --> 00:17:49,630 near the scene at the time of the crime. 265 00:17:51,539 --> 00:17:52,262 That's about it. 266 00:17:53,112 --> 00:17:55,867 This case has got 'not guilty insanity' written all over it. 267 00:17:56,953 --> 00:17:59,087 It's gonna be very difficult to get a jury to believe otherwise. 268 00:17:59,112 --> 00:17:59,628 It might be-- 269 00:17:59,653 --> 00:18:00,739 - [Whalen] Curse on defense to show insanity, 270 00:18:00,764 --> 00:18:02,127 we don't have to prove anything. 271 00:18:02,152 --> 00:18:04,153 The public wants the death penalty 272 00:18:04,178 --> 00:18:05,690 and the courts are gonna have to give it to 'em. 273 00:18:06,514 --> 00:18:08,051 - Well, I've never gone after the death penalty. 274 00:18:09,173 --> 00:18:11,210 If I was in the legislature, I'd campaign against it. 275 00:18:11,901 --> 00:18:13,253 - You're not in the legislature. 276 00:18:14,996 --> 00:18:18,162 In my office, we don't write law. 277 00:18:19,219 --> 00:18:20,017 We carry it out. 278 00:18:21,366 --> 00:18:23,283 - Listen, if we find whoever did this and convict him, 279 00:18:23,308 --> 00:18:25,226 it's just gonna get overturned somewhere off the line. 280 00:18:25,862 --> 00:18:27,741 - If they overturn us, that's the system. 281 00:18:29,858 --> 00:18:30,835 But if we get a conviction, 282 00:18:30,860 --> 00:18:33,158 you put on the record that you can prosecute this. 283 00:18:34,197 --> 00:18:35,788 The high court's on a dump but that's final. 284 00:18:36,531 --> 00:18:37,511 We're going after the death penalty 285 00:18:37,536 --> 00:18:39,425 as long as the high court says it's constitutional. 286 00:18:41,441 --> 00:18:41,978 Period. 287 00:18:55,636 --> 00:18:56,652 - Daddy, I wanna ride my bike. 288 00:18:56,677 --> 00:18:58,391 - Uh, let's go find Mommy first, huh? 289 00:18:58,416 --> 00:18:59,615 - Can I have apple juice? 290 00:19:00,199 --> 00:19:01,758 - Oh, sure. You were such a good boy at the dentist, 291 00:19:01,783 --> 00:19:02,928 you can have what you want. 292 00:19:17,225 --> 00:19:17,924 - Mommy? 293 00:19:20,831 --> 00:19:21,384 Mommy? 294 00:19:23,635 --> 00:19:24,242 Mommy? 295 00:19:26,491 --> 00:19:27,967 Daddy, daddy, daddy! 296 00:19:27,992 --> 00:19:29,481 - [Gene] What's wrong, Andy? What is it? 297 00:19:29,505 --> 00:19:30,767 - [Andy] Daddy, what's wrong with Mommy?! 298 00:19:30,792 --> 00:19:31,988 What's wrong?! 299 00:19:32,013 --> 00:19:33,706 Where is she?! Where's Mommy?! 300 00:19:33,731 --> 00:19:34,663 Daddy! 301 00:19:34,689 --> 00:19:36,813 - [Gene] My God! Nooooo! 302 00:19:53,543 --> 00:19:54,622 - How are you and Whalen gettin' along? 303 00:19:56,128 --> 00:19:57,485 - He wants me on the triple murder case. 304 00:19:58,467 --> 00:19:58,847 - Of course. 305 00:20:00,291 --> 00:20:02,040 You'll do a good job and he'll take the credit. 306 00:20:03,871 --> 00:20:05,519 - Well, I'm one of the liberals he campaigned against. 307 00:20:05,544 --> 00:20:08,970 - A murder conviction of this lunatic, if they ever haul him in, 308 00:20:08,995 --> 00:20:09,973 I don't know, 309 00:20:10,922 --> 00:20:12,682 I don't think there's a jury in the country that would kill him. 310 00:20:12,707 --> 00:20:14,707 Well, they'll maybe look into you to fumble. 311 00:20:14,733 --> 00:20:17,460 Knowing your feelings, they'd have a fall guy. 312 00:20:19,133 --> 00:20:21,257 When I was a PD, I defended the Rainer boys, 313 00:20:21,282 --> 00:20:22,720 Tommy and Kevin. 314 00:20:24,091 --> 00:20:26,521 They were pretty good boys most of the time, had jobs, no records. 315 00:20:26,546 --> 00:20:29,501 We went to trial because these two charming fellows, 316 00:20:29,526 --> 00:20:32,879 they got an old woman, tied her with electrical cord, 317 00:20:32,904 --> 00:20:35,720 left her hog-tied, then sat down and watched her strangle to death 318 00:20:35,746 --> 00:20:36,940 for forty minutes. 319 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,748 I got up, I reminded my jury how long it took that woman to die. 320 00:20:42,913 --> 00:20:46,017 They came back in three hours, not guilty by reason of insanity. 321 00:20:47,346 --> 00:20:48,640 That jury turned those boys loose 322 00:20:48,665 --> 00:20:51,098 because they couldn't believe that anyone could sit 323 00:20:51,123 --> 00:20:53,784 and watch an old woman choke to death for forty minutes 324 00:20:53,809 --> 00:20:55,069 unless they were insane. 325 00:20:55,094 --> 00:20:58,505 You got a guy that makes those boys look like the apostles. 326 00:21:00,970 --> 00:21:04,601 [siren wailing] 327 00:21:08,916 --> 00:21:11,673 - What of my boy? Where's Aaron? 328 00:21:12,823 --> 00:21:13,949 - [Mel] We're looking for him, Mr. Tippetts. 329 00:21:17,752 --> 00:21:19,106 - She's all, I just... 330 00:21:22,206 --> 00:21:24,986 I saw her laying there, her body was all cut open. 331 00:21:27,804 --> 00:21:28,587 Oh, my God... 332 00:21:31,756 --> 00:21:37,432 [inaudible 21:30] 333 00:21:37,457 --> 00:21:38,743 - [Mel] Is there anything I can get you? 334 00:21:42,527 --> 00:21:43,213 - [Gene] No... 335 00:21:43,238 --> 00:21:44,664 - [Mel] Will you be staying here tonight? 336 00:21:44,689 --> 00:21:47,022 - [Gene] Oh, God, no! I can't stay here. 337 00:21:47,047 --> 00:21:49,322 I can't stay at this house. 338 00:21:55,075 --> 00:21:55,603 - I wanna talk to him. 339 00:21:58,312 --> 00:21:59,152 - [Gene] Oh, God... 340 00:21:59,177 --> 00:22:01,203 - An hour ago, the fellow over there, Eugene Tippetts, 341 00:22:01,228 --> 00:22:03,336 brings his four year old kid back from the dentist. 342 00:22:04,692 --> 00:22:06,019 Finds his wife in the bedroom back there, 343 00:22:07,102 --> 00:22:09,492 shot three times, small caliber, and mutilated like the others. 344 00:22:09,516 --> 00:22:11,083 - Was she sexually assaulted? 345 00:22:13,402 --> 00:22:14,979 - Entry apparently through an unlocked back door. 346 00:22:15,911 --> 00:22:16,654 The guy just walked in. 347 00:22:18,606 --> 00:22:20,487 Tippetts has another son, about five years old. 348 00:22:21,717 --> 00:22:22,416 His name is Aaron. 349 00:22:22,441 --> 00:22:23,996 He was with the mother. 350 00:22:24,909 --> 00:22:26,321 He's not home now. We're looking for him. 351 00:22:27,402 --> 00:22:30,307 - [Gene] Oh, Eileen. I love you. [crying] 352 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:34,276 I love you... 353 00:22:37,350 --> 00:22:38,570 - [Evidence Tech] Somebody start checking with the utilities... 354 00:22:38,595 --> 00:22:39,599 - [Mel] Tony. 355 00:22:43,228 --> 00:22:44,773 A neighbor saw a white Chevy pull up to the house. 356 00:22:44,798 --> 00:22:49,225 Saw the driver. Described as a white male, twenty to thirty, long black hair, 357 00:22:49,250 --> 00:22:54,791 six foot, one fifty to one seventy, old blue jeans, a red parka, sunglasses. 358 00:22:55,709 --> 00:22:56,371 - It's gotta be him. 359 00:22:56,396 --> 00:22:57,684 - The witness knows the guy. 360 00:22:58,370 --> 00:22:59,773 He says he lives a couple of blocks away with his mother. 361 00:22:59,798 --> 00:23:02,996 His name is Charles Edward, excuse me, Edmund Reece. 362 00:23:18,111 --> 00:23:19,910 Thirty three zero five El Dorado, this is it, the Reece house. 363 00:23:19,935 --> 00:23:21,585 Do we go in now or wait for a warrant? 364 00:23:21,610 --> 00:23:22,391 - If we have to arrest with a search warrant, 365 00:23:22,416 --> 00:23:23,617 it'll take a couple of hours minimum. 366 00:23:23,642 --> 00:23:25,966 We have sufficient cause to arrest the guy if he's home now. 367 00:23:25,991 --> 00:23:27,367 He's a suspect in four murders. 368 00:23:36,086 --> 00:23:36,877 - [Mel] Cover the back door. 369 00:23:48,076 --> 00:23:48,875 Looks like a Holiday Inn. 370 00:24:07,477 --> 00:24:08,042 Can you hear me? 371 00:24:08,067 --> 00:24:09,516 - Sedatives and tranquilizers. 372 00:24:09,541 --> 00:24:11,582 All presciptions for Mrs. Naomi Reece. 373 00:24:11,607 --> 00:24:13,060 - [Mel] Mrs. Reece. 374 00:24:13,085 --> 00:24:15,056 - [Mrs. Reece] Uh... 375 00:24:15,779 --> 00:24:16,207 - [Mel] Mrs. Reece. 376 00:24:16,232 --> 00:24:17,179 - Uh, ah Charlie! 377 00:24:17,204 --> 00:24:18,480 - Mrs. Reece, we're from the Police Department. 378 00:24:18,504 --> 00:24:20,798 - Huh? But why are you in my house? 379 00:24:20,823 --> 00:24:21,757 - [Mel] We're looking for your son. Is he home now? 380 00:24:21,782 --> 00:24:23,900 - But I'm.. uh.. did something happen? 381 00:24:23,925 --> 00:24:25,381 - We're gonna search your house now, Mrs. Reece. 382 00:24:25,406 --> 00:24:26,620 You can come with us if you want, d'ya understand? 383 00:24:26,645 --> 00:24:27,932 - Mm-hmm, why... 384 00:24:27,957 --> 00:24:29,229 - Sounds like consent to me. 385 00:24:29,254 --> 00:24:30,227 - [Mel] Where's Charlie's room? 386 00:24:31,829 --> 00:24:33,257 - [Mrs. Reece] Stop it. Stop it. 387 00:24:34,584 --> 00:24:35,385 Don't go in here. 388 00:24:35,410 --> 00:24:36,071 - [Police] Move out of the way, ma'am. 389 00:24:36,846 --> 00:24:37,522 - [Mrs. Reece] You can't be in here! 390 00:24:37,547 --> 00:24:39,235 - [Police] Mrs. Reece, just stand out of the way! 391 00:24:39,260 --> 00:24:40,061 - [Mrs. Reece] Stop it! 392 00:24:40,086 --> 00:24:41,172 - [Police] There's a cellar back here. 393 00:24:41,197 --> 00:24:41,919 - [Mrs. Reece] Get out of here, get out of here! 394 00:24:43,864 --> 00:24:47,378 No. No, get-- No! 395 00:24:47,403 --> 00:24:48,028 - [Tony] Stay here. 396 00:24:48,053 --> 00:24:48,634 - Locked. 397 00:24:48,659 --> 00:24:49,654 - Stop it. Stop it! 398 00:24:49,679 --> 00:24:50,145 - Cut 'em off. 399 00:24:51,260 --> 00:24:52,571 - Get away from me. Let me go! 400 00:24:52,596 --> 00:24:53,386 - Stay out of it! 401 00:24:54,318 --> 00:24:55,257 - [Mrs. Reece] Get your hands off of me! 402 00:24:56,460 --> 00:24:57,237 Do not touch me! 403 00:24:58,128 --> 00:24:58,911 - [Police] What's that smell? 404 00:24:59,514 --> 00:25:01,346 - [Mrs. Reece] You cannot even look in here. This is his special room. 405 00:25:01,371 --> 00:25:02,437 He never lets any-- 406 00:25:02,462 --> 00:25:03,916 [coughing] 407 00:25:04,843 --> 00:25:06,130 - Jesus! 408 00:25:07,704 --> 00:25:08,527 - [Mel] Holy Christ. 409 00:25:12,381 --> 00:25:13,840 Go to Tippett's house. Get the ID techs over here. 410 00:25:13,865 --> 00:25:16,205 [screaming] 411 00:25:16,230 --> 00:25:17,944 - [Mrs. Reece] Get out, get out, get out. 412 00:25:17,969 --> 00:25:19,701 Get out, get out. 413 00:25:19,726 --> 00:25:20,892 Get out of here! 414 00:25:20,917 --> 00:25:21,605 - This is an emergency, ma'am. 415 00:25:25,246 --> 00:25:26,421 - Charlie, what were you doing? 416 00:25:30,294 --> 00:25:32,437 - Got some shells over here, they look like twenty-two's. 417 00:25:32,462 --> 00:25:33,073 - Don't touch 'em. 418 00:25:33,984 --> 00:25:35,918 - My God. This looks like brains. 419 00:25:35,943 --> 00:25:39,906 [coughing] 420 00:25:43,290 --> 00:25:43,809 - [Police] Who's in charge? 421 00:25:59,870 --> 00:26:00,793 - The Tippett's kid's had it. 422 00:26:00,818 --> 00:26:02,333 If this guy's got him, he's dead. 423 00:26:03,537 --> 00:26:05,633 - We can't believe he's dead. 424 00:26:05,658 --> 00:26:08,263 Our own justification for being here is that we believe that boy's alive. 425 00:26:09,951 --> 00:26:10,723 Alright, let's get pictures 426 00:26:10,748 --> 00:26:12,471 and snag everything that's not nailed down. 427 00:26:13,164 --> 00:26:14,958 This is our guy, Mel. It's all in plain view. 428 00:26:14,983 --> 00:26:16,615 [Mrs. Reece screaming] 429 00:26:23,624 --> 00:26:24,604 - You want me to check your oil and your water? 430 00:26:24,629 --> 00:26:25,671 - No, not today. Thanks. 431 00:26:53,537 --> 00:26:54,260 - Morning. 432 00:26:54,285 --> 00:26:55,193 - [Charles] Morning. 433 00:26:55,218 --> 00:26:55,964 - You Charles Reece? 434 00:26:55,989 --> 00:26:57,044 - No. He's been gone all day. 435 00:26:58,195 --> 00:26:59,032 - [Nestode] You happen to know when he's coming in? 436 00:26:59,942 --> 00:27:01,954 - No. If he's not in by now, I'd say he's out for the day. 437 00:27:03,185 --> 00:27:03,541 Who wants him? 438 00:27:03,566 --> 00:27:04,172 - [Mel] Are you the owner? 439 00:27:04,197 --> 00:27:05,963 - Heh, no. I just work here. 440 00:27:07,018 --> 00:27:07,516 - [Nestode] What's your name? 441 00:27:07,541 --> 00:27:09,448 - Bob. Robert. 442 00:27:10,557 --> 00:27:11,118 - [Mel] Last name. 443 00:27:12,746 --> 00:27:13,508 - Tippetts. 444 00:27:14,904 --> 00:27:15,448 Excuse me. 445 00:27:53,194 --> 00:27:53,712 Have a nice day. 446 00:28:03,646 --> 00:28:04,229 - Whose Chevy is that? 447 00:28:05,201 --> 00:28:05,781 - [Charles] I'm workin' on it. 448 00:28:05,806 --> 00:28:06,279 - Robert. 449 00:28:06,304 --> 00:28:06,729 - [Charles] Yo. 450 00:28:06,754 --> 00:28:07,591 - You wanna open it for me? 451 00:28:08,801 --> 00:28:09,370 - Where's the keys? 452 00:28:11,976 --> 00:28:12,746 - [Charles] I don't remember. 453 00:28:12,771 --> 00:28:13,876 - Think. 454 00:28:16,276 --> 00:28:17,912 - [Charles] They must be inside, I'll see if I can find them. 455 00:28:18,669 --> 00:28:19,330 - We'll come with you. 456 00:28:27,676 --> 00:28:30,867 - [Charles] This place is such a mess, I can never find anything. I never... 457 00:28:31,957 --> 00:28:34,181 know if he put the keys up here or... 458 00:28:35,997 --> 00:28:37,627 ...or where. Sometimes, he puts 'em up here. 459 00:28:38,682 --> 00:28:41,438 Uhm, it could be just about any place. 460 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,336 I don't know, this ring he put all-- 461 00:28:44,361 --> 00:28:45,088 - [Mel] Are these yours? 462 00:28:46,043 --> 00:28:47,021 - Oh, yeah. 463 00:28:48,191 --> 00:28:48,875 Uhm, those... 464 00:28:48,900 --> 00:28:50,240 - [Nestode] Shit! 465 00:28:50,265 --> 00:28:50,852 - [Mel] Hey! 466 00:28:50,877 --> 00:28:51,469 - [Nestode] Halt! 467 00:28:51,494 --> 00:28:52,350 - [Mel] Hold it right there! 468 00:28:52,375 --> 00:28:53,065 - [Nestode] Halt! 469 00:28:54,496 --> 00:28:55,077 - [Mel] [inaudible 28:52] 470 00:29:27,236 --> 00:29:27,889 Nobody move! 471 00:29:30,609 --> 00:29:31,687 - Move! Move! 472 00:29:31,712 --> 00:29:32,598 [children screaming] 473 00:29:32,623 --> 00:29:33,643 Police! Get out of the way! 474 00:29:37,035 --> 00:29:37,625 Stop! 475 00:29:37,650 --> 00:29:38,954 Get your hands up! 476 00:29:38,979 --> 00:29:39,763 [dog barking] 477 00:29:39,788 --> 00:29:41,120 Get your hands up where I can see 'em now! 478 00:29:41,145 --> 00:29:41,919 - Where I could see 'em! 479 00:29:41,944 --> 00:29:42,890 Put 'em up! 480 00:29:44,329 --> 00:29:44,894 - What's the matter? 481 00:29:46,068 --> 00:29:46,511 - Get down on the ground. 482 00:29:46,536 --> 00:29:47,014 - What? What? 483 00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:47,644 - Get down on the ground! 484 00:29:47,669 --> 00:29:48,361 - [Charles] I didn't do anything. 485 00:29:48,386 --> 00:29:49,059 - Get down on the ground! 486 00:29:49,084 --> 00:29:49,952 - [Charles] It wasn't-- 487 00:29:49,977 --> 00:29:52,248 - Now! Lay down! Lay down! 488 00:29:52,273 --> 00:29:53,298 - [Charles] I didn't do anything-- 489 00:29:53,323 --> 00:29:54,977 - Spread it out! Go on! Spread out! 490 00:29:56,126 --> 00:29:56,770 - What? 491 00:30:00,988 --> 00:30:01,909 What am I here for? 492 00:30:01,934 --> 00:30:04,002 - [Mel] You killed a woman today. 493 00:30:05,203 --> 00:30:06,249 - I need a doctor right away. 494 00:30:06,274 --> 00:30:09,246 - [Mel] Mr. Reece, did you kill Eileen Tippetts today? 495 00:30:09,271 --> 00:30:11,046 - I need a doctor, please. 496 00:30:11,071 --> 00:30:12,831 - Where's the little boy, Mr. Reece? 497 00:30:13,994 --> 00:30:15,002 - You'll never understand me. 498 00:30:16,312 --> 00:30:16,771 - Why not? 499 00:30:17,201 --> 00:30:18,319 - Because you're not chosen. 500 00:30:19,249 --> 00:30:20,155 Ask me another question. 501 00:30:21,191 --> 00:30:22,315 - Have you ever seen a psychiatrist? 502 00:30:22,341 --> 00:30:24,210 - Yo. Lots of 'em. 503 00:30:25,299 --> 00:30:25,861 - Would you like to see one now? 504 00:30:25,886 --> 00:30:26,782 - Sure, I would. 505 00:30:28,365 --> 00:30:29,296 You'll find out. 506 00:30:30,002 --> 00:30:31,142 You're gonna get a big surprise. 507 00:30:34,487 --> 00:30:35,945 - Mr. Reece, let's cover a couple load of areas. 508 00:30:35,970 --> 00:30:37,584 How long did you work at the gas station? 509 00:30:40,997 --> 00:30:41,780 - Is the shrink here yet? 510 00:30:45,708 --> 00:30:47,079 Dr. Rudin. 511 00:30:47,793 --> 00:30:48,755 Tony Fraser, Assistant DA. 512 00:30:48,780 --> 00:30:49,431 - [Rudin] Yes, we've met before. 513 00:30:49,456 --> 00:30:50,837 - Thank you for coming. 514 00:30:50,862 --> 00:30:51,729 - [Rudin] Why did you ask for me? 515 00:30:52,641 --> 00:30:53,427 - You're on the duty roster. 516 00:30:53,452 --> 00:30:54,683 Do you know what's goin' on here? 517 00:30:54,708 --> 00:30:57,332 Okay, I want you to find out anything you can about this little boy, 518 00:30:57,358 --> 00:30:59,072 then I wanna know what this guy's problems are. 519 00:30:59,097 --> 00:31:00,737 - Well, I can't examine him until after he's been charged. 520 00:31:00,762 --> 00:31:01,888 - He's already been charged. 521 00:31:01,913 --> 00:31:03,674 - [Rudin] Well, it would be improper even to talk to him 522 00:31:03,699 --> 00:31:05,344 'till after he's consulted an attorney. 523 00:31:05,370 --> 00:31:06,069 - [Tony] He has an attorney. 524 00:31:06,094 --> 00:31:08,690 I just want whatever information you can get on this little boy. 525 00:31:16,332 --> 00:31:17,466 [doorbell ringing] 526 00:31:23,708 --> 00:31:24,439 - [Albert] Hello, Mrs. Reece. 527 00:31:26,169 --> 00:31:27,552 Remember me, I'm, uh, Albert Morse? 528 00:31:27,577 --> 00:31:29,575 I'm the public defender assigned to your son's case? 529 00:31:32,761 --> 00:31:33,870 Mrs. Reece, I'm here to help you. 530 00:31:47,066 --> 00:31:47,656 Is this your husband? 531 00:31:49,784 --> 00:31:51,088 - He died when Charlie was six. 532 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,452 - [Albert] Charlie's been telling me that he used to hit you. 533 00:31:56,990 --> 00:31:59,123 - Ha, Charlie? Never. 534 00:32:00,038 --> 00:32:00,798 - [Albert] No, I meant your husband. 535 00:32:03,627 --> 00:32:07,171 - He, uh, punch me in the face, yes. 536 00:32:08,202 --> 00:32:10,282 A lot of times, he kick me. 537 00:32:11,909 --> 00:32:16,517 I was lyin' on the floor with, uh, pans, broken dishes all over the place. 538 00:32:18,625 --> 00:32:19,200 Cut myself. 539 00:32:20,775 --> 00:32:22,070 Had to get fifty-two stitches. 540 00:32:24,262 --> 00:32:26,422 He was mad about what somebody said to him at work. 541 00:32:28,795 --> 00:32:30,927 I had blood in my mouth and I was beggin' him to stop. 542 00:32:34,471 --> 00:32:35,336 I had to leave him. 543 00:32:35,918 --> 00:32:37,026 We were only separated two months. 544 00:32:38,614 --> 00:32:40,915 He came to the place I was stayin' and, uh, 545 00:32:43,337 --> 00:32:44,227 he actually cried. 546 00:32:46,548 --> 00:32:48,824 He apologized, you know, so I came back. 547 00:32:50,678 --> 00:32:52,003 I loved him. 548 00:32:53,485 --> 00:32:54,354 And I missed Charlie. 549 00:32:55,566 --> 00:32:56,805 And I know how much he needed me. 550 00:32:56,830 --> 00:32:58,638 - Wait a minute, you mean, your husband kept the boy? 551 00:32:58,663 --> 00:32:59,386 - Mm. 552 00:33:00,697 --> 00:33:01,681 - Did you every report him to the police? 553 00:33:03,404 --> 00:33:04,034 Why was that? 554 00:33:05,503 --> 00:33:06,816 - I don't know, to tell you the honest truth. 555 00:33:07,904 --> 00:33:09,121 - Did your husband ever hit Charlie? 556 00:33:09,146 --> 00:33:10,967 - Agh, he loved Charlie. 557 00:33:12,208 --> 00:33:13,985 He would never hurt Charlie. Charlie was his darling. 558 00:33:15,260 --> 00:33:16,820 - Well he saw him hit you. 559 00:33:19,189 --> 00:33:21,477 - Charlie was standing there, right there. 560 00:33:24,068 --> 00:33:26,061 I covered my eyes so I wouldn't have to see him starin'. 561 00:33:29,388 --> 00:33:30,078 - [Albert] Okay. 562 00:33:32,090 --> 00:33:33,671 What happened to Charlie after his father died? 563 00:33:35,864 --> 00:33:38,664 - Well, he was seven, but he wasn't a bad child. 564 00:33:38,689 --> 00:33:41,433 You ask our neighbors. He, he mowed lawns, 565 00:33:41,458 --> 00:33:43,094 he was always helpin' people. 566 00:33:43,119 --> 00:33:48,091 He collected food and old clothes for poor people. Everybody liked him. 567 00:33:48,116 --> 00:33:49,974 He was on the football team and the baseball team 568 00:33:49,999 --> 00:33:51,064 at Mt. [inaudible 33:48] High. 569 00:33:51,089 --> 00:33:52,754 I have a picture around here somewhere. 570 00:33:52,779 --> 00:33:54,008 - [Albert] So he has no criminal record. 571 00:33:54,033 --> 00:33:54,356 - No. 572 00:33:54,381 --> 00:33:55,449 - No juvenile offenses. 573 00:33:55,474 --> 00:33:57,543 - Nothing. His grades were always good. 574 00:33:57,568 --> 00:33:59,962 He went off to the community college for a, a year. 575 00:34:03,637 --> 00:34:04,420 He had a hard time. 576 00:34:05,764 --> 00:34:06,664 It was just the two of us. 577 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:09,580 But I always gave him love. 578 00:34:12,154 --> 00:34:13,620 I don't believe what they're saying about him. 579 00:34:14,785 --> 00:34:17,693 If I could see him now, I know Charlie would tell me the real facts. 580 00:34:17,718 --> 00:34:18,860 - I understand he'd been hospitalized. 581 00:34:18,885 --> 00:34:21,003 - Yeah, at Sunnyslope. They helped him. 582 00:34:23,690 --> 00:34:25,256 - Well, who was the one who put him on the hospital, Mrs. Reece? 583 00:34:27,911 --> 00:34:29,739 - Well, I told Charlie that I thought he should see professionals. 584 00:34:31,444 --> 00:34:32,382 Just needs professionals. 585 00:34:34,249 --> 00:34:35,421 He got very upset with me. 586 00:34:38,171 --> 00:34:39,033 But he got better. 587 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:41,424 They let him out. 588 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,246 He can get better, Mr. Morse. He's a good person. 589 00:34:46,638 --> 00:34:47,444 Just needs love. 590 00:34:48,804 --> 00:34:50,345 He needs all the love I've got. 591 00:35:01,032 --> 00:35:01,551 - [Tony] Well? 592 00:35:02,170 --> 00:35:03,449 - [Rudin] Okay, he's got a lot of problems. 593 00:35:04,158 --> 00:35:05,277 Serious, pathological problems. 594 00:35:06,115 --> 00:35:07,883 - Doctor, does he know the difference between right and wrong? 595 00:35:07,908 --> 00:35:09,399 - He seems confused and emotionally detached 596 00:35:09,424 --> 00:35:10,470 from the killings. 597 00:35:10,495 --> 00:35:13,222 - Am I going to build a limited case for legal sanity? 598 00:35:15,413 --> 00:35:16,870 - It's possible. Yes. 599 00:36:01,164 --> 00:36:03,686 - [Mel] The women were shot, dragged upstairs and then, mutilated. 600 00:36:04,616 --> 00:36:06,286 The man downstairs was shot and just left there. 601 00:36:06,311 --> 00:36:10,604 [monitor beeping] 602 00:36:15,581 --> 00:36:16,489 [woman screaming] 603 00:36:16,513 --> 00:36:20,671 - [Gene] I saw here laying there, her body was all cut open. [crying] 604 00:36:21,743 --> 00:36:22,932 Oh, my God... 605 00:36:40,769 --> 00:36:42,059 - [George] Looks like In The Wild in there. 606 00:36:44,728 --> 00:36:46,798 - Had the presence of mind to pull the shade at the Ellis house. 607 00:36:49,008 --> 00:36:51,910 Brought a plastic bag with him so he could take the body parts he wanted. 608 00:36:54,132 --> 00:36:55,327 Brought a concealed weapon with him. 609 00:36:56,682 --> 00:36:59,251 He used a carving knife from the Ellis kitchen for the mutilation. 610 00:37:01,049 --> 00:37:01,825 - I don't see your point. 611 00:37:03,867 --> 00:37:06,847 - Well, to inflict this kind of damage, you'd need a large weapon, right? 612 00:37:08,063 --> 00:37:08,605 - Right. 613 00:37:09,118 --> 00:37:11,058 - It's hard to carry, hard to conceal. 614 00:37:12,607 --> 00:37:13,979 Maybe he took one away when he would find one. 615 00:37:14,004 --> 00:37:14,833 That's thinking ahead, George. 616 00:37:16,993 --> 00:37:18,503 - I don't know, Tony, that could be hard to prove. 617 00:37:20,381 --> 00:37:22,033 - Yeah, well, I gotta prove it to myself first. 618 00:37:26,911 --> 00:37:28,487 Didn't he wash the knife after he used it? 619 00:37:30,318 --> 00:37:32,479 - Somebody did, and then took it back to the kitchen. 620 00:37:34,452 --> 00:37:35,084 - And then while he was in there, 621 00:37:35,109 --> 00:37:36,773 he looks around for something to drink their blood. 622 00:37:39,399 --> 00:37:40,353 See, there's no panic. 623 00:37:41,275 --> 00:37:42,501 The kitchen wasn't disturbed, was it? 624 00:37:43,563 --> 00:37:44,183 - No. 625 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,916 No, I was in there, he whooped very carefully. 626 00:37:47,941 --> 00:37:48,598 - That's my point. 627 00:37:51,125 --> 00:37:52,793 I think he had motivation for the killings, 628 00:37:55,065 --> 00:37:55,959 and that it was sexual. 629 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,760 Harry, see what else you can find out about him going back to when he was a kid. 630 00:37:59,912 --> 00:38:01,992 Go back as far as you can, classmates, girlfriends, whatever. 631 00:38:35,571 --> 00:38:38,026 - [Dr. Gables] We wanna look at the physiology of Mr. Reece's brain. 632 00:38:39,381 --> 00:38:41,437 By that, I mean to see if it's the right size and shape, 633 00:38:41,462 --> 00:38:43,818 or if there's anything physically wrong with it. 634 00:38:45,268 --> 00:38:47,464 This machine is a Magnetic Resonance Scanner. 635 00:38:48,615 --> 00:38:52,012 It uses a powerful magnetic field and radio waves to give us the sharpest, 636 00:38:52,037 --> 00:38:53,589 clearest image of the brain. 637 00:38:57,413 --> 00:38:59,485 Alright, we're now passing through the base of the brain. 638 00:39:01,109 --> 00:39:04,646 The temporal lobe and frontal lobe are coming around, 639 00:39:04,671 --> 00:39:06,098 they're both normal. 640 00:39:07,293 --> 00:39:08,215 There is no mass. 641 00:39:10,443 --> 00:39:12,815 We're passing through the fourth ventricle and it's normal. 642 00:39:14,109 --> 00:39:16,659 The third ventricle and lateral ventricle are just coming around 643 00:39:16,684 --> 00:39:17,839 and there are no lesions, 644 00:39:19,072 --> 00:39:19,783 no bumps. 645 00:39:21,181 --> 00:39:22,592 The size and the shape of the brain are normal. 646 00:39:23,517 --> 00:39:24,985 He appears to have no structural brain disease. 647 00:39:27,277 --> 00:39:28,053 - Good luck, Al. 648 00:39:32,376 --> 00:39:35,273 - Charles, I'm Dr. Benjamin Keddie. I'm a psychiatrist. 649 00:39:35,298 --> 00:39:37,779 I was engaged by your attorney here, Mr. Morse. 650 00:39:39,474 --> 00:39:42,600 I've gone over your psychological tests and your magnetic resonance scan, 651 00:39:44,229 --> 00:39:46,457 and I think your best defense is insanity. 652 00:39:47,947 --> 00:39:51,410 Mr. Morse and I will have to convince the jury of your condition, 653 00:39:52,901 --> 00:39:55,678 so we need you to help us understand it. 654 00:39:55,703 --> 00:39:56,298 You see? 655 00:39:57,019 --> 00:39:58,400 - I don't want an insanity defense. 656 00:39:59,817 --> 00:40:01,162 Everything I did was justified. 657 00:40:01,187 --> 00:40:02,482 I had to do it. It was all up to me. 658 00:40:03,737 --> 00:40:06,136 - Did something tell you to do those things? 659 00:40:09,166 --> 00:40:09,857 - What do you mean? 660 00:40:10,543 --> 00:40:12,609 - Well, for example, did something tell you to go out 661 00:40:12,634 --> 00:40:13,453 and shoot people? 662 00:40:17,002 --> 00:40:17,685 - Yeah. 663 00:40:20,441 --> 00:40:21,522 I don't know what it was. 664 00:40:22,570 --> 00:40:23,424 What do you think it was? 665 00:40:24,228 --> 00:40:26,192 - Well, that's for you to tell me, Charles. 666 00:40:27,349 --> 00:40:28,956 - [Charles] I hear voices on the radio sometimes. 667 00:40:28,981 --> 00:40:30,125 - [Albert] What sort of voices, Charles? 668 00:40:30,652 --> 00:40:31,469 - Music. 669 00:40:32,214 --> 00:40:33,052 Tellin' me to kill. 670 00:40:37,149 --> 00:40:38,516 There's this one station I listen to. 671 00:40:38,541 --> 00:40:40,541 It's the devil station. 672 00:40:41,925 --> 00:40:44,085 I listen and I'd hear Satan telling me to kill. 673 00:40:45,997 --> 00:40:47,563 Sometimes, I think this isn't real. 674 00:40:48,999 --> 00:40:51,454 It's not really messages, it's not making any sense. 675 00:40:53,508 --> 00:40:55,325 But then finally I figured it must be true. 676 00:40:57,298 --> 00:40:59,076 So then when I started to lose all my blood, 677 00:41:00,333 --> 00:41:03,456 I figured that it was Satan poisoning me for not keeping my end of the bargain. 678 00:41:05,033 --> 00:41:06,386 - [Albert] Do you remember going in to a woman's house 679 00:41:06,411 --> 00:41:07,513 the day you were arrested? 680 00:41:09,490 --> 00:41:11,539 - She was making trouble, and her dog was poisoned. 681 00:41:13,627 --> 00:41:15,102 - [Dr. Keddie] How did you feel after you killed these people? 682 00:41:16,753 --> 00:41:17,722 - Just kind of delirious. 683 00:41:19,264 --> 00:41:20,016 I didn't care. 684 00:41:20,041 --> 00:41:22,422 - [Albert] Well, how did you pick out this particular family to kill? 685 00:41:23,899 --> 00:41:26,252 - I don't know. It was just an accident. 686 00:41:26,277 --> 00:41:27,963 - [Albert] An accident? What do you mean? 687 00:41:30,158 --> 00:41:31,135 - There's just no reason, you know. 688 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,291 I just walked out to the door, and the woman opened the door, 689 00:41:33,316 --> 00:41:34,676 and so I shot her right then. 690 00:41:37,281 --> 00:41:38,415 - [Dr. Keddie] What happened to the little boy? 691 00:41:40,115 --> 00:41:44,352 - Oh. I put him in the trash can with the lid in a garbage someplace. 692 00:41:45,064 --> 00:41:45,852 - [Albert] Was he still alive? 693 00:41:45,877 --> 00:41:46,816 - I don't know. 694 00:41:48,441 --> 00:41:49,777 I might have shot him a couple of times. 695 00:41:49,802 --> 00:41:50,524 - [Albert] You killed him? 696 00:41:51,335 --> 00:41:53,872 - No, I sucked some blood, and then I got rid of it. 697 00:41:55,471 --> 00:41:57,427 - I'm confused, Charlie, is to how you could hurt people, 698 00:41:58,152 --> 00:42:00,497 a small child who never did you any harm. 699 00:42:01,759 --> 00:42:02,854 - Why, I never meant to hurt him. 700 00:42:03,743 --> 00:42:04,668 I needed his blood. 701 00:42:07,744 --> 00:42:09,093 Well, I feel bad about it now, I guess. 702 00:42:10,500 --> 00:42:11,385 - [Dr. Keddie] But not then. 703 00:42:11,410 --> 00:42:12,884 - Oh no, not then. 704 00:42:16,968 --> 00:42:19,750 - Affix time of death in relation to bullet wounds and knife wounds. 705 00:42:21,016 --> 00:42:22,174 Same with Mrs. Hendrickson. 706 00:42:23,353 --> 00:42:25,916 Further note, Reece knew Mrs. Tippetts. 707 00:42:27,177 --> 00:42:28,123 Did he have a reason for killing her? 708 00:42:28,148 --> 00:42:31,638 Wasn't there a report of a dead dog to the police department? 709 00:42:31,663 --> 00:42:32,632 - [Kate] Mr. Tippetts is here. 710 00:42:33,642 --> 00:42:34,403 - Oh, right. 711 00:42:35,484 --> 00:42:36,095 I need to interview him 712 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,099 and I didn't want him have to do it at the office. 713 00:42:38,124 --> 00:42:38,673 - [Kate] Okay. 714 00:42:38,698 --> 00:42:39,334 - Is it alright? 715 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:41,695 This is the man whose wife was-- 716 00:42:41,720 --> 00:42:43,679 - I know. He has his son with him. 717 00:42:51,344 --> 00:42:52,050 - [Tony] Thank you for coming. 718 00:42:54,220 --> 00:42:54,825 Hello, son. 719 00:42:54,850 --> 00:42:56,064 - Do you have any toys? 720 00:42:56,090 --> 00:42:57,570 - We might have. 721 00:42:58,491 --> 00:42:59,152 Come on. 722 00:43:10,857 --> 00:43:11,757 - Can I have a drink? 723 00:43:13,130 --> 00:43:14,860 - Sure. What would you like? 724 00:43:15,872 --> 00:43:17,647 - Mmm, water. No, apple juice. 725 00:43:17,672 --> 00:43:18,806 - [Kate] Okay. 726 00:43:20,272 --> 00:43:20,930 Mr. Tippetts. 727 00:43:21,672 --> 00:43:23,271 - Uh, no, thank you very much, Mrs. Fraser. 728 00:43:23,296 --> 00:43:24,249 - Can I have a Coke? 729 00:43:25,058 --> 00:43:26,866 - I think the apple juice would be better for you, son. 730 00:43:28,172 --> 00:43:29,830 - Andrew was asking we had any toys. 731 00:43:33,283 --> 00:43:34,332 Come on, let's talk outside. 732 00:43:35,049 --> 00:43:35,825 - Be a good boy, Andrew. 733 00:43:39,923 --> 00:43:40,731 - [Kate] Here you go... 734 00:43:43,509 --> 00:43:45,333 - [Tony] I know it's difficult to talk about it, 735 00:43:46,586 --> 00:43:50,436 but you were the first person, aside from your son, to find your wife. 736 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,577 And I need to have the jurors hear you. 737 00:43:55,475 --> 00:43:58,465 I need to have them see her through your eyes. 738 00:44:00,904 --> 00:44:01,992 - They all say that he's nuts. 739 00:44:03,965 --> 00:44:05,054 I'm betting you do think that he's nuts, don't you? 740 00:44:05,079 --> 00:44:07,592 - [Tony] No, I don't. 741 00:44:09,068 --> 00:44:11,119 I think Reece knew what he was doing when he killed your wife. 742 00:44:11,144 --> 00:44:14,668 - This is, this is, this is... this is all, it's a waste of time. 743 00:44:14,693 --> 00:44:15,808 - [Tony] It isn't a waste of time-- 744 00:44:15,833 --> 00:44:17,221 - I don't have the time, mister. 745 00:44:17,246 --> 00:44:18,406 I got no time. 746 00:44:20,026 --> 00:44:22,300 I sit there at home, and I watch my boy Andrew, 747 00:44:22,325 --> 00:44:23,729 that's all I do, I watch him. 748 00:44:25,537 --> 00:44:27,627 That boy, he's all I got left. 749 00:44:29,177 --> 00:44:29,774 You understand? 750 00:44:29,799 --> 00:44:32,064 - [Tony] We're preparing to meet Reece's insanity defense. 751 00:44:34,143 --> 00:44:37,796 I'm asking for the death penalty, which I've never done before. 752 00:44:39,862 --> 00:44:41,120 But I feel, in this case, 753 00:44:43,650 --> 00:44:44,836 I think the jury would vote for it. 754 00:44:47,295 --> 00:44:49,052 You have to understand, if he's acquitted, 755 00:44:49,077 --> 00:44:51,480 or if he's found not guilty by reason of insanity, 756 00:44:51,504 --> 00:44:54,391 they'll let him out of a hospital or prison someday 757 00:44:54,416 --> 00:44:56,848 and he'll be on the streets again. I know you don't want that. 758 00:44:56,873 --> 00:44:59,696 - No. No, sir, no. 759 00:45:04,862 --> 00:45:05,964 - It's a terrible thing to lose a child. 760 00:45:05,989 --> 00:45:08,308 - Oh, oh, you don't know. 761 00:45:08,333 --> 00:45:09,499 - I do know. 762 00:45:11,079 --> 00:45:12,313 I had a daughter younger than Aaron. 763 00:45:13,852 --> 00:45:14,970 We lost her six months ago. 764 00:45:17,051 --> 00:45:17,933 - Lost her? What do... 765 00:45:17,958 --> 00:45:20,138 That's a little bit different, ain't it, huh? 766 00:45:20,163 --> 00:45:21,599 You lost her? 767 00:45:22,779 --> 00:45:23,810 What the hell is that supposed to mean? 768 00:45:26,212 --> 00:45:27,081 - She had pneumonia. 769 00:45:30,842 --> 00:45:31,796 We thought she was getting better. 770 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,324 When I thought it was past the dangerous stage, I went back to work. 771 00:45:39,093 --> 00:45:39,993 I had a trial to finish. 772 00:45:43,214 --> 00:45:44,412 My wife stayed at the hospital. 773 00:45:47,430 --> 00:45:49,758 The last time I saw my daughter, she was in an oxygen mask. 774 00:45:53,594 --> 00:45:55,579 - I'm, I'm sorry, I... 775 00:45:57,879 --> 00:45:58,761 Jesus, God. 776 00:46:04,154 --> 00:46:05,085 - Can I color this book? 777 00:46:05,925 --> 00:46:08,283 - Sure. Wanna color together? 778 00:46:08,308 --> 00:46:08,984 - [Andy] Okay. 779 00:46:09,009 --> 00:46:09,653 - [Kate] Okay. 780 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:13,759 - Is this a girl's toy? 781 00:46:13,784 --> 00:46:15,081 - [Kate] Yeah. 782 00:46:16,807 --> 00:46:17,540 - I love it. 783 00:46:17,565 --> 00:46:18,437 - [Kate] Hmm. 784 00:46:35,969 --> 00:46:36,902 - [Tony] When my daughter lost consciousness, 785 00:46:36,927 --> 00:46:40,326 I had to make the decision and let her die. 786 00:46:41,763 --> 00:46:42,765 I thought it was better for her. 787 00:46:44,215 --> 00:46:45,368 I feel the same about Reece. 788 00:46:47,424 --> 00:46:50,025 Sometimes, life has to be taken. 789 00:46:52,464 --> 00:46:53,557 I need you to help me. 790 00:46:56,670 --> 00:46:57,453 - What if I just don't show up? 791 00:46:59,092 --> 00:47:01,197 - I could have a warrant issued for your arrest but I'd rather not, 792 00:47:01,222 --> 00:47:02,040 believe me. 793 00:47:04,648 --> 00:47:06,357 - Yeah, I thought a lot about everything that happened. 794 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:09,756 We didn't go to church, I ain't got no religion, 795 00:47:09,781 --> 00:47:11,010 nothing like that. 796 00:47:12,495 --> 00:47:13,991 I think all this was God's idea. 797 00:47:15,020 --> 00:47:15,672 - I don't know, Mr. Tippetts, 798 00:47:15,697 --> 00:47:18,537 I just wanna see Reece punished for what he did to your little-- 799 00:47:18,562 --> 00:47:19,234 - I don't know why, 800 00:47:19,259 --> 00:47:22,952 but I think God, he, he made a judgment against us. 801 00:47:42,322 --> 00:47:43,905 Did I tell you what I decided this morning, tiger? 802 00:47:45,785 --> 00:47:47,600 I think maybe you and me are gonna leave this town. 803 00:47:47,625 --> 00:47:49,692 Just pack up and head out on the road. 804 00:47:49,717 --> 00:47:50,890 - No school? 805 00:47:50,915 --> 00:47:52,222 - No, not for a while. 806 00:47:52,247 --> 00:47:55,378 I think we're just gonna get in the car and drive. 807 00:47:56,228 --> 00:47:57,116 - How long for, Daddy? 808 00:47:58,107 --> 00:47:59,142 - Well, for a long time. 809 00:47:59,966 --> 00:48:01,206 - Aren't we ever gonna stop? 810 00:48:01,231 --> 00:48:04,559 - I'm not sure. We're gonna stop but mainly we're gonna drive 811 00:48:04,584 --> 00:48:05,662 and we're gonna see places. 812 00:48:07,575 --> 00:48:08,335 You like that idea? 813 00:48:09,559 --> 00:48:10,592 - Can I bring my toys? 814 00:48:11,259 --> 00:48:13,148 - Oh, you betcha, you can bring every single one of 'em. 815 00:48:14,249 --> 00:48:15,460 - Is there children to play with? 816 00:48:15,485 --> 00:48:17,702 - Lots of children. You can play with all of 'em. 817 00:48:25,607 --> 00:48:26,814 - How many patients are you treating here, Paul? 818 00:48:26,839 --> 00:48:28,621 - Fifty or sixty, something like that. 819 00:48:28,646 --> 00:48:30,504 We're operating way beyond capacity. 820 00:48:32,269 --> 00:48:33,265 - Well, you're to be commended. 821 00:48:33,836 --> 00:48:36,537 Usually very ill are treated by the least trying people 822 00:48:36,562 --> 00:48:37,776 in our profession. 823 00:48:37,801 --> 00:48:38,763 - Thank you, Ben. 824 00:48:39,994 --> 00:48:43,130 - Paul, it's only a matter of time before the DA discovers 825 00:48:43,155 --> 00:48:45,503 that you examined Reece here at Sunnyslope. 826 00:48:45,528 --> 00:48:48,887 - No, it, it wasn't me. It was one of the staff psychologists. 827 00:48:49,859 --> 00:48:50,814 I only discovered it recently. 828 00:48:50,839 --> 00:48:53,158 - Less than six months before the first killing, 829 00:48:53,183 --> 00:48:56,904 you agreed that he was well enough to be let go. 830 00:48:56,929 --> 00:48:58,649 - [Paul] It was the hospital staff. 831 00:48:59,542 --> 00:49:01,298 They didn't see a potential for violence. 832 00:49:01,891 --> 00:49:03,246 We don't have the money or the time. 833 00:49:04,380 --> 00:49:05,396 All we could do was warehouse him. 834 00:49:06,498 --> 00:49:07,408 - [Dr. Keddie] You're willing to rely on that 835 00:49:07,433 --> 00:49:08,633 when you get on the witness stand? 836 00:49:11,518 --> 00:49:12,219 - Of course, not. 837 00:49:15,260 --> 00:49:17,708 - When it becomes common knowledge that you certified Reece 838 00:49:17,733 --> 00:49:19,998 and then let him go, you're going to be sued. 839 00:49:20,023 --> 00:49:21,958 You'll be sued by the dead victim's families, 840 00:49:21,983 --> 00:49:23,844 you'll be found guilty of malpractice. 841 00:49:23,869 --> 00:49:26,744 My God, remember that case that they brought against John Hingris, 842 00:49:26,769 --> 00:49:27,904 psychiatrist? 843 00:49:29,481 --> 00:49:31,438 Failure to predict future violence? 844 00:49:33,806 --> 00:49:36,332 You see, there's no question that he killed those people. 845 00:49:37,831 --> 00:49:39,647 The only question is why. 846 00:49:42,029 --> 00:49:47,920 Now if he is found guilty on those crimes, you will be persecuted along with him. 847 00:49:49,052 --> 00:49:50,226 - I can't falsify the interview. 848 00:49:50,251 --> 00:49:52,420 - [Dr. Keddie] I didn't say anything about falsifying. 849 00:49:52,445 --> 00:49:55,975 My God, Paul, you don't have to falsify anything in this case. 850 00:49:57,826 --> 00:49:58,775 - What are you suggesting? 851 00:50:00,944 --> 00:50:01,682 - Change your mind. 852 00:50:01,707 --> 00:50:03,762 - [Dr. Rudin] How do I explain that? 853 00:50:05,270 --> 00:50:06,063 - On further reflection, 854 00:50:06,088 --> 00:50:08,812 I think that you'll arrive at the same diagnosis I did. 855 00:50:09,699 --> 00:50:10,685 Paranoid schizophrenia. 856 00:50:12,325 --> 00:50:14,850 - I've never pre-judged a diagnosis in my life. 857 00:50:15,482 --> 00:50:16,934 - [Dr. Keddie] Did he ever mention anything about the nazis 858 00:50:16,959 --> 00:50:19,113 or being persecuted by demons? 859 00:50:20,165 --> 00:50:21,313 - No, I would have remembered that. 860 00:50:21,338 --> 00:50:23,806 - Then you might wanna include a few comments on your report 861 00:50:23,831 --> 00:50:26,743 on his persecution delusion. It's part of his paranoia. 862 00:50:30,284 --> 00:50:31,092 - He has that delusion? 863 00:50:31,953 --> 00:50:32,752 - I had to draw it out of him, 864 00:50:32,777 --> 00:50:35,446 and it's perfectly consistent with his interest in human anatomy, 865 00:50:35,471 --> 00:50:38,255 and nazis as a satanic cult. 866 00:50:39,711 --> 00:50:42,213 See, just make a few, small adjustments in your report. 867 00:50:43,614 --> 00:50:45,554 It'll help to coordinate our presentation. 868 00:50:47,133 --> 00:50:48,911 - I'll have to, I have to look at all my records. 869 00:50:48,936 --> 00:50:50,284 - I didn't hear you, Paul. 870 00:50:53,264 --> 00:50:56,853 - I said I may have some other records. I'll have to look for them. 871 00:50:58,155 --> 00:51:00,197 - I know you wanna do everything you can to help this man. 872 00:51:01,110 --> 00:51:04,490 He's sick. We're the only people who stand between him and death. 873 00:51:05,724 --> 00:51:07,318 The death penalty is intolerable. 874 00:51:08,396 --> 00:51:11,876 You have every right to stretch the truth if necessary to save his life. 875 00:51:12,713 --> 00:51:14,887 - He can spend six months and God knows how much tax money 876 00:51:14,912 --> 00:51:16,650 proving he committed those crimes. 877 00:51:16,675 --> 00:51:19,911 But if you go my way, the people will get their guilty plea, 878 00:51:19,936 --> 00:51:22,132 the people will get a shot at a joint to life 879 00:51:22,157 --> 00:51:24,126 whether it's a state prison, or mental hospital, 880 00:51:24,151 --> 00:51:25,869 and no one's gonna let this guy out. 881 00:51:25,894 --> 00:51:27,621 He's gonna stay in there until the cows come home. 882 00:51:27,646 --> 00:51:29,021 - It happens all the time. 883 00:51:29,046 --> 00:51:32,991 Guy sent to a mental hospital, later proves he's no longer dangerous, 884 00:51:33,016 --> 00:51:34,305 and they have to let him go. 885 00:51:34,330 --> 00:51:35,437 - Do you really think that any psychiatrist 886 00:51:35,462 --> 00:51:37,259 is gonna certify this man for release-- 887 00:51:37,284 --> 00:51:38,467 - [Tony] Al, it happens everyday! 888 00:51:38,492 --> 00:51:39,559 - [Albert] Oh, come on, Tony. 889 00:51:39,584 --> 00:51:42,735 - It does. What about this guy who raped a 12-year old girl in the 1980? 890 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,590 Cut off her arms and left her for dead. 891 00:51:44,616 --> 00:51:46,282 He's just been paroled for good behavior. 892 00:51:46,307 --> 00:51:47,925 - If he pleads in front of me today, 893 00:51:47,950 --> 00:51:49,861 you're not lookin' at any state hospital, Al. 894 00:51:50,934 --> 00:51:53,048 We're talkin' life in prison and I mean it. 895 00:51:53,073 --> 00:51:55,860 - We're talkin' about this guy as if he were just another murderer. 896 00:51:57,517 --> 00:51:59,433 Ten years from now, the parole board or whatever it's called 897 00:51:59,458 --> 00:52:00,824 will have no memory of this. 898 00:52:01,975 --> 00:52:03,898 Sooner or later, they'll let him go, they always do. 899 00:52:03,923 --> 00:52:05,034 - He's gonna be an old man by this point. 900 00:52:06,044 --> 00:52:08,138 - A maximum sentence from me and I'm sent nasty letters 901 00:52:08,163 --> 00:52:09,379 from the community to the parole board, 902 00:52:09,404 --> 00:52:11,876 you might wind up getting more than if you went to trial. 903 00:52:13,088 --> 00:52:13,926 - I'll take that chance. 904 00:52:13,951 --> 00:52:16,129 - What are you gonna tell their families when the jury comes back in that court 905 00:52:16,154 --> 00:52:17,278 with a second degree verdict? 906 00:52:17,303 --> 00:52:19,227 You're not gonna hold this guy in a joint too long with that. 907 00:52:20,682 --> 00:52:21,518 - I think I can nail this guy. 908 00:52:21,543 --> 00:52:22,965 [gavel striked] 909 00:52:24,957 --> 00:52:28,358 - [Judge] When a defendant raises the insanity defense as Mr. Reece has, 910 00:52:29,676 --> 00:52:31,027 trial is divided into three parts. 911 00:52:32,855 --> 00:52:34,642 You must first determine his guilt, 912 00:52:35,936 --> 00:52:39,187 then, his sanity at the time that the crimes were committed. 913 00:52:40,095 --> 00:52:44,742 If you find him guilty and sane, then in the third part, the penalty phase, 914 00:52:46,366 --> 00:52:47,991 you must decide whether he will live or die. 915 00:52:53,696 --> 00:52:57,341 - [witness] He had lots of pets, dogs, cats, even ducks. 916 00:52:58,692 --> 00:53:00,473 We used to play with the animals at Wikigrove Park. 917 00:53:02,324 --> 00:53:05,774 He used to go out of his way to avoid violence of any kind. 918 00:53:07,028 --> 00:53:09,575 Uh, once, one of the guys we went to school with 919 00:53:10,845 --> 00:53:15,434 got drunk and took a swing at Charlie, and Charlie didn't hit him back. 920 00:53:16,374 --> 00:53:19,543 He just sort of backed him down, and tried to reason with him. 921 00:53:21,166 --> 00:53:23,526 - [witness] I was his scout master. He was a good boy. 922 00:53:25,515 --> 00:53:28,040 I didn't see him for a few years 'till a few months ago. 923 00:53:31,188 --> 00:53:32,104 He looked like an old man. 924 00:53:34,052 --> 00:53:36,638 His face was pale and his eyes were crazy. 925 00:53:38,550 --> 00:53:39,584 And he lost a lot of weight. 926 00:53:41,722 --> 00:53:43,507 He seemed really nervous. 927 00:53:45,376 --> 00:53:47,326 He wanted to know about blood poison. 928 00:53:47,351 --> 00:53:50,174 If I knew anyone who died of blood poison. 929 00:53:52,012 --> 00:53:54,356 - [witness] I was a nurse at Sunnyslope when he was a patient there. 930 00:53:55,862 --> 00:53:57,563 I found a diary that he kept. 931 00:53:58,879 --> 00:54:01,070 It, uh, was against the rules, but I opened it, 932 00:54:02,380 --> 00:54:05,961 and found dates, times, and places of animals that he had killed. 933 00:54:07,257 --> 00:54:09,962 Dogs, cats, rabbits. 934 00:54:10,990 --> 00:54:14,727 When we heard he was going to be released, we all raised hell about it, 935 00:54:14,753 --> 00:54:16,764 but, uh, it didn't do any good. 936 00:54:18,495 --> 00:54:20,709 - Uhm, we went together all through high school. 937 00:54:20,734 --> 00:54:24,597 Uh, he was on the football team and I was a cheerleader. 938 00:54:26,268 --> 00:54:28,800 I didn't have other boyfriends than just Charles. 939 00:54:31,778 --> 00:54:33,501 He was always very thoughtful. 940 00:54:34,643 --> 00:54:42,375 He used to send me Valentine's flowers, and we, we were very close. 941 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,427 - [Albert] Did you continue to see Charles after you both graduated? 942 00:54:46,438 --> 00:54:49,147 - Uh, yes, I did. Uhm, for almost a year afterward. 943 00:54:51,137 --> 00:54:54,089 - [Albert] Would you say your relationship with Charles was normal relationship? 944 00:54:57,500 --> 00:54:58,192 - You mean, sexual? 945 00:54:58,217 --> 00:54:59,109 - [Albert] Exactly. 946 00:54:59,846 --> 00:55:02,966 - Yes. He was my boyfriend for almost five years, 947 00:55:02,991 --> 00:55:04,575 I didn't have any other boyfriends. 948 00:55:08,129 --> 00:55:11,164 - [Albert] Dr. Rudin, did you make a diagnosis of Charles Reece? 949 00:55:11,189 --> 00:55:16,160 - Yes. I found that Mr. Reece was a schizophrenic of the paranoid type. 950 00:55:16,185 --> 00:55:17,921 - And what did you base that diagnosis? 951 00:55:18,740 --> 00:55:19,618 - [Dr. Rudin] May I consult my notes? 952 00:55:19,643 --> 00:55:20,574 - Absolutely. 953 00:55:22,119 --> 00:55:24,962 - [Dr. Rudin] Well, first he was chaotic in his thinking. 954 00:55:24,987 --> 00:55:27,470 He couldn't follow or reply to any of my questions. 955 00:55:29,203 --> 00:55:31,472 He had delusions, for example, that Mr. Tippetts was a nazi 956 00:55:31,497 --> 00:55:32,607 out to harm him. 957 00:55:32,632 --> 00:55:34,513 He didn't show any of the reactions you'd expect 958 00:55:34,538 --> 00:55:36,707 from someone who's committed a hideous crime. 959 00:55:38,198 --> 00:55:39,092 - This is exactly what I was afraid of. 960 00:55:39,117 --> 00:55:41,725 I want the information that would dug up on this guy. 961 00:55:43,638 --> 00:55:44,803 - He believes that his blood is poisoned, 962 00:55:46,054 --> 00:55:47,444 that his internal organs aren't functioning, 963 00:55:47,469 --> 00:55:49,361 and that his heart is failing. 964 00:55:50,530 --> 00:55:51,439 - [Albert] Any of these things true? 965 00:55:52,705 --> 00:55:53,707 - No. 966 00:55:55,936 --> 00:55:57,156 - Now Dr. Rudin, this is very important. 967 00:55:58,645 --> 00:56:02,245 Do you think that Charles Reece understood the nature and quality of his acts? 968 00:56:02,894 --> 00:56:06,002 - I would say that he had a sense that he was killing, 969 00:56:06,027 --> 00:56:09,357 but he didn't rationally understand what he was doing. 970 00:56:10,649 --> 00:56:12,506 - Your honor, I have a request that I be permitted to re-examine 971 00:56:12,531 --> 00:56:13,551 Dr. Rudin as a hostile witness. 972 00:56:13,576 --> 00:56:14,671 - Objection, Your Honor. 973 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,348 Dr. Rudin is the people's own psychiatrist. 974 00:56:17,373 --> 00:56:20,995 Just because Mr. Fraser does not hear the answers he wants does not mean-- 975 00:56:21,020 --> 00:56:23,473 - I have certain representations from this witness prior to trial, 976 00:56:23,497 --> 00:56:24,943 and during his direct examinations, 977 00:56:24,968 --> 00:56:27,839 and he's now testifying in a completely different manner. 978 00:56:29,044 --> 00:56:31,322 - [Judge] Objection overruled. Go ahead, Mr. Fraser. 979 00:56:31,347 --> 00:56:32,214 - Thank you, Your Honor. 980 00:56:36,236 --> 00:56:37,923 You've treated many schizophrenics. 981 00:56:38,728 --> 00:56:39,421 - [Dr. Rudin] Yes, I have. 982 00:56:40,263 --> 00:56:42,840 - Most of them live reasonably normal lives, don't they? 983 00:56:42,865 --> 00:56:44,842 - [Rudin] Some do. Some are hospitalized. 984 00:56:45,533 --> 00:56:47,812 - But they all function, whether they're in the hospital 985 00:56:47,837 --> 00:56:50,088 or outside without killing people. 986 00:56:50,113 --> 00:56:51,163 - Yes. 987 00:56:51,735 --> 00:56:53,903 - Some even hold jobs, raise families. 988 00:56:53,929 --> 00:56:55,252 - If they're treated. 989 00:56:55,277 --> 00:56:57,664 Some may require medication to function. 990 00:56:58,631 --> 00:56:59,222 - But not all. 991 00:56:59,834 --> 00:57:00,820 - No, not all. 992 00:57:01,858 --> 00:57:02,534 - No. 993 00:57:03,718 --> 00:57:09,003 Delusions and abnormal states don't necessarily equal murder, 994 00:57:09,536 --> 00:57:12,086 even for people who have the same disorder as the defendant. 995 00:57:12,111 --> 00:57:14,328 - [Albert] Objection, Your Honor. Counsel has again commented. 996 00:57:14,353 --> 00:57:15,824 - [Judge] Ask a question, Mr. Fraser. 997 00:57:16,967 --> 00:57:18,190 - Based on your observations, 998 00:57:19,295 --> 00:57:20,678 do you consider him a threat to the safety of others? 999 00:57:21,991 --> 00:57:23,994 - [Dr. Rudin] I would say so. Yes. 1000 00:57:30,064 --> 00:57:32,101 - Doctor, you said you were on the staff at Sunnyslope Hospital. 1001 00:57:34,437 --> 00:57:35,683 - I'm a consultant there, yes. 1002 00:57:35,708 --> 00:57:36,533 - Mm-hmm. 1003 00:57:37,721 --> 00:57:38,934 Well, during the summer of 1986, 1004 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,750 do you remember seeing the defendant as a patient? 1005 00:57:43,514 --> 00:57:44,059 - I do not. 1006 00:57:44,084 --> 00:57:45,080 - You didn't see him? 1007 00:57:46,709 --> 00:57:49,872 - I said, I don't recall him if he was there-- 1008 00:57:49,897 --> 00:57:51,152 - Let me refresh your memory. 1009 00:57:51,177 --> 00:57:52,150 These are hospital records. 1010 00:57:52,175 --> 00:57:56,047 You certified for release, July 29th, 1986. 1011 00:57:56,784 --> 00:57:59,666 - I didn't release him. This was a junior member of the staff. 1012 00:58:00,994 --> 00:58:01,926 - Well, now, Doctor, 1013 00:58:03,549 --> 00:58:06,961 if a member of your staff certified him for release 1014 00:58:06,987 --> 00:58:10,221 just six months before he went on a murderous rampage, 1015 00:58:10,246 --> 00:58:13,042 doesn't that mean that he didn't manifest any of the symptoms 1016 00:58:13,067 --> 00:58:15,005 that allerted you to his dangerousness? 1017 00:58:16,006 --> 00:58:17,194 - It was not my decision. 1018 00:58:18,435 --> 00:58:20,844 - [Tony] Did you approach the interview you had with the defendant 1019 00:58:20,869 --> 00:58:22,803 at the police department with any prejudices? 1020 00:58:22,828 --> 00:58:24,449 - I most certainly did not. 1021 00:58:25,768 --> 00:58:30,057 - He killed several people, cuts them up, and drinks their blood, 1022 00:58:30,082 --> 00:58:32,297 and knowing these things, you didn't go in there 1023 00:58:32,322 --> 00:58:33,526 thinking he might be crazy? 1024 00:58:33,551 --> 00:58:34,660 - I did not. No. 1025 00:58:34,685 --> 00:58:35,252 - Why not? 1026 00:58:35,979 --> 00:58:38,031 - Because people can commit multiple murders 1027 00:58:38,056 --> 00:58:41,038 and still not be, to use your word, crazy. 1028 00:58:41,950 --> 00:58:46,887 - So it's possible then, for a person to commit a string of sadistic murders 1029 00:58:46,912 --> 00:58:48,791 and still be found legally sane. 1030 00:58:56,576 --> 00:58:57,254 - Yes. 1031 00:59:07,369 --> 00:59:08,607 - [police] [inaudible 59:04], the DA just arrived. 1032 00:59:11,863 --> 00:59:12,975 - [Nestode] Watch out down here, you might slip. 1033 00:59:14,109 --> 00:59:14,669 - [boy] Right here. 1034 00:59:15,592 --> 00:59:16,169 Right here! 1035 00:59:16,194 --> 00:59:17,799 - [Mel] Where were you when you boys seen it? 1036 00:59:17,824 --> 00:59:19,824 - [boy] We were here fishing 1037 00:59:23,312 --> 00:59:25,157 These two kids found the body about an hour and a half ago. 1038 00:59:26,487 --> 00:59:27,209 They're down here fishing. 1039 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:29,499 That's it down there. 1040 00:59:31,109 --> 00:59:32,251 We haven't made a positive ID yet, 1041 00:59:33,137 --> 00:59:34,674 but it looks like little Aaron Tippetts, for sure. 1042 00:59:36,934 --> 00:59:38,769 John, where the hell are the medics? 1043 00:59:48,070 --> 00:59:51,992 [telephone ringing] 1044 00:59:56,353 --> 00:59:56,981 - Hello. 1045 01:00:00,613 --> 01:00:01,803 Who is this? Who's calling? 1046 01:00:07,250 --> 01:00:08,090 Just a moment. 1047 01:00:12,475 --> 01:00:13,235 It's for you. 1048 01:00:13,260 --> 01:00:14,310 - Are you okay? 1049 01:00:23,260 --> 01:00:23,918 Who is this? 1050 01:00:25,547 --> 01:00:26,721 - You've gotta get me moved to another jail. 1051 01:00:28,238 --> 01:00:29,573 They'll poison me here. 1052 01:00:31,154 --> 01:00:32,885 - [Tony] Don't ever call me at home again. 1053 01:00:34,006 --> 01:00:34,959 Do you understand that? 1054 01:00:35,794 --> 01:00:38,691 If you call me here again, I'll make sure your phone privileges are revoked. 1055 01:00:40,736 --> 01:00:42,103 - I can tell you anything you wanna know. 1056 01:00:42,128 --> 01:00:44,639 - If you wanna talk to me, do it through your attorney. 1057 01:00:44,664 --> 01:00:46,789 - Hahahaha. 1058 01:00:55,553 --> 01:00:56,439 - That was Reece, wasn't it? 1059 01:00:57,567 --> 01:00:58,164 - Yeah. 1060 01:00:58,189 --> 01:00:59,851 - He can just call here anytime he wants? 1061 01:01:00,753 --> 01:01:01,831 - I'll make sure it doesn't happen again. 1062 01:01:01,856 --> 01:01:04,755 - My God, he was talking to me. This crazy killer knows our number. 1063 01:01:04,780 --> 01:01:07,076 - I'm sorry, Kate. I'm sorry this guy has talked to you. Kate? 1064 01:01:08,661 --> 01:01:13,654 Dr. Gables, were you asked to determine whether the defendant was sane or insane 1065 01:01:13,679 --> 01:01:14,627 at the time of the killings? 1066 01:01:14,652 --> 01:01:15,706 - Yes. 1067 01:01:16,539 --> 01:01:18,318 - What sort of, uh, examinations did you perform on him? 1068 01:01:18,877 --> 01:01:20,544 - I reviewed all the medical and neurological studies 1069 01:01:20,569 --> 01:01:23,150 that had been done on Mr. Reece including brain wave tests, 1070 01:01:23,175 --> 01:01:24,820 and specialized x-rays of his brain. 1071 01:01:24,845 --> 01:01:28,509 I also performed extensive psychiatric examinations on him 1072 01:01:28,534 --> 01:01:29,444 over a clinical period. 1073 01:01:29,469 --> 01:01:31,185 - [Tony] Mm-hm. And what were your findings? 1074 01:01:31,211 --> 01:01:34,817 - I found him to have no medical and neurological illness of any type, 1075 01:01:35,838 --> 01:01:38,486 his nervous system is intact, his general physical health is good. 1076 01:01:39,298 --> 01:01:41,106 He is, in my judgment, legally sane. 1077 01:01:41,869 --> 01:01:43,406 - [Tony] What other reasons do you have for stating your opinion 1078 01:01:43,431 --> 01:01:44,729 that the defendant is sane? 1079 01:01:45,499 --> 01:01:46,518 - [Dr. Gables] He knows right from wrong, 1080 01:01:46,543 --> 01:01:49,148 he, uh, went to work, ran from the police, 1081 01:01:50,497 --> 01:01:51,560 told me he'd killed some people, 1082 01:01:52,448 --> 01:01:54,512 he took [inaudible 01:01:49] to avoid observation and detection, 1083 01:01:55,488 --> 01:01:56,890 sometimes, with me, he became evasive, 1084 01:01:56,915 --> 01:02:00,580 made very deliberate concious choices of what he would or wouldn't talk about-- 1085 01:02:00,605 --> 01:02:02,824 - [Tony] What sort of things didn't he wanna talk about? 1086 01:02:02,849 --> 01:02:03,505 - I'm sorry? 1087 01:02:03,530 --> 01:02:05,135 - [Tony] What sort of things didn't he wanna talk about? 1088 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:09,370 - Uh, why he killed people, where evidence might be found, 1089 01:02:09,395 --> 01:02:10,957 things that would hurt him legally. 1090 01:02:12,260 --> 01:02:14,223 - Doctor, did he know he was killing living human beings? 1091 01:02:14,249 --> 01:02:17,152 - Oh, but that was the point, that was why he did it. 1092 01:02:18,723 --> 01:02:21,114 He claims he has a belief that his body is failing and infected, 1093 01:02:21,139 --> 01:02:23,427 and he's convinced himself someone else's blood will repair him. 1094 01:02:24,483 --> 01:02:25,667 He had to kill them to get the blood. 1095 01:02:26,313 --> 01:02:28,540 - [Tony] And you wouldn't, uh, characterize that as insane. 1096 01:02:29,296 --> 01:02:30,281 - Not into the law. 1097 01:02:31,032 --> 01:02:32,856 Reece's thinking is peculiar, perhaps psychotic, 1098 01:02:32,881 --> 01:02:35,062 but at all times, he knew what he was doing, 1099 01:02:35,754 --> 01:02:36,578 knew that it was wrong, 1100 01:02:36,603 --> 01:02:41,076 and he has the capacity to control his behavior to not kill. 1101 01:02:43,217 --> 01:02:43,970 - No further questions. 1102 01:02:44,684 --> 01:02:45,816 - [Albert] Uh, Dr. Gables, 1103 01:02:47,884 --> 01:02:51,020 do you believe that Charles Reece has a serious mental illness? 1104 01:02:52,517 --> 01:02:55,299 - Yes, I do. I've said so several times, uh, that he's probably psychotic. 1105 01:02:55,324 --> 01:02:56,649 I'm sorry if I haven't made myself clear. 1106 01:02:56,674 --> 01:02:58,883 - Oh, well, that's alright, Doc, we'll take care of that right now. 1107 01:03:00,838 --> 01:03:06,066 Dr. Leon Gables, you've testified in over fifty cases, haven't you, 1108 01:03:06,091 --> 01:03:06,781 as an expert witness? 1109 01:03:07,610 --> 01:03:08,276 - [Dr. Gables] That's correct. 1110 01:03:08,849 --> 01:03:11,482 - And each of those cases, you have always testified for the prosecution 1111 01:03:11,506 --> 01:03:13,500 and against the defendant, is that correct? 1112 01:03:15,794 --> 01:03:18,351 - [Dr. Gables] In each of the cases' which I've testified as an expert, 1113 01:03:18,376 --> 01:03:22,435 I've made an individual opinion on a merit case by casee basis. 1114 01:03:22,460 --> 01:03:26,237 - That's good, Doctor, but in every case, you have supported the prosecution, 1115 01:03:26,262 --> 01:03:27,113 is that correct? 1116 01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:29,647 - Essentially, yes. 1117 01:03:30,290 --> 01:03:32,312 - [Albert] Don't you have a nickname in the prosecutorial community? 1118 01:03:32,337 --> 01:03:33,264 - Oh... 1119 01:03:33,289 --> 01:03:33,930 - [Tony] Your Honor, I object! 1120 01:03:33,955 --> 01:03:35,332 - [Albert] Aren't you known as Dr. Death? 1121 01:03:35,357 --> 01:03:36,904 - Your Honor, this is argumentative. 1122 01:03:36,929 --> 01:03:40,749 - He has testified in fifty-three murder cases and fifty-three convictions. 1123 01:03:40,774 --> 01:03:43,348 That's his nickname, Your Honor, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, 1124 01:03:43,373 --> 01:03:44,486 this is Dr. Death. 1125 01:03:44,510 --> 01:03:45,551 - Objection! 1126 01:03:50,971 --> 01:03:51,934 - [Guard] Okay, Charlie, it's lunchtime. 1127 01:03:57,243 --> 01:03:57,943 - Thanks. 1128 01:04:01,296 --> 01:04:03,107 - What's it like to actually drink somebody's blood, Charlie? 1129 01:04:05,493 --> 01:04:06,507 - I love watching people die. 1130 01:04:08,649 --> 01:04:09,990 Made 'em swiggle and squirm all over the place, 1131 01:04:10,015 --> 01:04:11,022 and then, they just stop. 1132 01:04:13,039 --> 01:04:15,788 Oh, I'd cut 'em with a knife and watch their face turn real white. 1133 01:04:17,352 --> 01:04:18,343 I loved all that blood. 1134 01:04:18,369 --> 01:04:20,281 - They're gonna gash you if you keep talking like that. 1135 01:04:23,989 --> 01:04:25,698 - I'd rather die than spend the rest of my life in prison. 1136 01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:31,993 I must've been real sick to do all that. 1137 01:04:45,859 --> 01:04:47,155 Boy, these sure are good. 1138 01:04:50,460 --> 01:04:51,208 - [guard] What the hell are you doing?! 1139 01:05:03,736 --> 01:05:04,325 - [Charles] Aaah! 1140 01:05:09,757 --> 01:05:12,348 [dogs barking] 1141 01:05:41,036 --> 01:05:42,814 - [police] Get out of the way. 1142 01:05:50,118 --> 01:05:56,124 [leaves rustling] 1143 01:06:18,905 --> 01:06:21,349 [helicopter whirring] 1144 01:07:19,602 --> 01:07:20,533 - Aaaah! 1145 01:07:21,405 --> 01:07:21,973 Where is the-- 1146 01:07:21,998 --> 01:07:22,521 - What do you want? 1147 01:07:24,194 --> 01:07:25,310 - Where's the blood?! 1148 01:07:25,335 --> 01:07:26,939 [choking] 1149 01:07:28,235 --> 01:07:30,281 Aaaah! 1150 01:07:53,022 --> 01:07:53,898 Daddy! 1151 01:07:57,395 --> 01:08:01,720 [siren wailing] 1152 01:08:01,721 --> 01:08:03,815 [dogs barking] 1153 01:08:06,139 --> 01:08:07,356 Aaaaaaaah! 1154 01:08:09,256 --> 01:08:10,123 - [Nestode] Hold it right there! 1155 01:08:10,148 --> 01:08:11,317 [inaudible 01:08:07] 1156 01:08:13,155 --> 01:08:22,343 - Aaaaaaaah... 1157 01:08:26,627 --> 01:08:28,798 - Why the hell are they letting this guy have something he could sharpen? 1158 01:08:28,823 --> 01:08:32,071 - Any mention of his attempt to escape or any reference to dead or injured guards 1159 01:08:32,096 --> 01:08:33,170 or the priest. 1160 01:08:33,195 --> 01:08:34,272 - On what grounds? 1161 01:08:34,875 --> 01:08:36,596 - It's not probative on the question of guilt or innocence. 1162 01:08:36,622 --> 01:08:38,155 - Oh, you're funny. Ah, you know-- 1163 01:08:38,180 --> 01:08:41,426 - [Judge] Who the hell knows why he tried to escape? Al's right. It's not probative. 1164 01:08:42,393 --> 01:08:43,572 I'm gonna grant the motion. 1165 01:08:43,597 --> 01:08:44,308 - Thank you, Your Honor. 1166 01:08:47,771 --> 01:08:49,672 Dr. Keddie, is it your opinion that one of the reasons 1167 01:08:49,697 --> 01:08:51,751 Charles Reece killed these people was 1168 01:08:51,776 --> 01:08:53,627 that he was afraid they were poisoning him? 1169 01:08:54,676 --> 01:08:55,583 - That was the primary reason. 1170 01:08:56,110 --> 01:08:58,017 It was a frantic, misguided effort of self defense. 1171 01:08:59,380 --> 01:09:02,004 - Was he capable of understanding the nature and the quality of his acts? 1172 01:09:02,731 --> 01:09:03,561 - Absolutely not. 1173 01:09:03,586 --> 01:09:06,308 The power of his delusions overwhelmed his freedom of choice. 1174 01:09:06,333 --> 01:09:07,485 - [Albert] Thank you very much, Doctor. 1175 01:09:09,815 --> 01:09:13,190 - Doctor, isn't it just possible that this man killed his victims 1176 01:09:13,215 --> 01:09:14,788 because he enjoyed inflicting cruelty? 1177 01:09:14,813 --> 01:09:15,681 - Definitely not. 1178 01:09:16,375 --> 01:09:18,391 His delusional need for blood was the primary motivation 1179 01:09:18,416 --> 01:09:19,380 for what he did. 1180 01:09:20,414 --> 01:09:22,273 - [Tony] But didn't he kill in this grotesque manner 1181 01:09:22,298 --> 01:09:24,515 because his purpose was also sadistic? 1182 01:09:25,350 --> 01:09:26,649 - As a trained psychiatrist, I would say 1183 01:09:26,675 --> 01:09:29,792 that that is not in accord with the evidence, as I perceive it. 1184 01:09:30,567 --> 01:09:32,483 - [Tony] As a trained psychiatrist, are you saying 1185 01:09:32,507 --> 01:09:35,405 that a man who commits [inaudible 1:09:30] on a woman he has just killed 1186 01:09:35,430 --> 01:09:37,233 isn't driven by a sadistic impulse? 1187 01:09:37,891 --> 01:09:40,651 - I found no evidence that Mr. Reece was motivated by sadistic feelings. 1188 01:09:41,557 --> 01:09:43,870 - [Tony] Hmm. Doctor, didn't the nazis have a delusion 1189 01:09:43,895 --> 01:09:46,104 about the Jews causing the world's problems? 1190 01:09:47,346 --> 01:09:49,364 - When an entire culture or even a large group of people 1191 01:09:49,389 --> 01:09:50,324 believe in something, 1192 01:09:50,349 --> 01:09:53,575 I doubt that we could psychiatrically label it as a delusion. 1193 01:09:54,638 --> 01:09:56,475 It may be wrong, it may be a mistaken prejudice, 1194 01:09:56,499 --> 01:09:57,690 but it is not delusional. 1195 01:09:58,836 --> 01:10:01,235 - Direct your attention to the jury instructions for insanity 1196 01:10:01,260 --> 01:10:03,413 and tell me, doctor, if you would find the nazis insane. 1197 01:10:03,438 --> 01:10:04,626 - Objection! 1198 01:10:04,651 --> 01:10:05,803 - I'll permit him to answer. 1199 01:10:07,208 --> 01:10:08,815 - All the instructions refer to the word "legal," 1200 01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,918 for other nations, we're not talking about the same thing at all. 1201 01:10:12,707 --> 01:10:14,143 - [Tony] Would you find the nazis who killed 1202 01:10:14,168 --> 01:10:18,128 because of their belief in Jewish evil insane using the California standard? 1203 01:10:20,044 --> 01:10:22,906 - Those who operated on this belief, and I think it fair to call this belief, 1204 01:10:22,931 --> 01:10:24,424 a disease, 1205 01:10:25,627 --> 01:10:26,962 I would generally find insane. 1206 01:10:27,544 --> 01:10:29,948 - Even though they were organized enough to set up gas chambers? 1207 01:10:29,973 --> 01:10:31,286 Extermination camps? 1208 01:10:32,100 --> 01:10:34,008 Ride railroads carrying Jewish victims? 1209 01:10:34,033 --> 01:10:36,537 In fact, organized a whole apparatus of government 1210 01:10:36,562 --> 01:10:38,230 around the idea of killing Jews? 1211 01:10:39,821 --> 01:10:42,165 - I think most people agree that the nazis were insane. 1212 01:10:42,190 --> 01:10:44,316 - And you find the defendant insane for the same reasons? 1213 01:10:45,500 --> 01:10:46,689 - Well, I don't follow you. 1214 01:10:47,527 --> 01:10:48,567 - He believed blood would cure him, 1215 01:10:48,592 --> 01:10:49,812 they believed Jews were evil. 1216 01:10:49,837 --> 01:10:51,293 They both killed for their beliefs, didn't they? 1217 01:10:51,987 --> 01:10:53,090 - [Dr. Keddie] I don't see the parallels. 1218 01:10:54,879 --> 01:10:56,081 - The defendant, like the nazis, 1219 01:10:56,106 --> 01:10:58,413 was able to organize his own transportation. 1220 01:10:58,438 --> 01:11:01,775 Like the nazis, he brought tools of death with him, 1221 01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,085 carried out his deeds and secret like the nazis. 1222 01:11:04,110 --> 01:11:06,829 Don't all these things point away from him being insane? 1223 01:11:07,716 --> 01:11:10,502 - [Dr. Keddie] Mr. Fraser, you find Mr. Reece better organized 1224 01:11:10,527 --> 01:11:11,192 than I do. 1225 01:11:13,673 --> 01:11:16,831 - Do you understand the effect of your opinions, doctor? 1226 01:11:18,526 --> 01:11:22,165 Under your theory, both the defendant and the nazis 1227 01:11:22,190 --> 01:11:25,740 would be free from criminal responsibility for their actions, wouldn't they? 1228 01:11:25,765 --> 01:11:26,596 - [Dr. Keddie] That's not what I said. 1229 01:11:26,621 --> 01:11:30,152 I'm here to give my opinions on the questions you put up. 1230 01:11:30,177 --> 01:11:32,576 - You said the defendant was unable to make choices. 1231 01:11:32,601 --> 01:11:37,248 - I believe I said that he was not capable of full, mature reflection on his actions. 1232 01:11:37,273 --> 01:11:40,085 - You mean that, he couldn't control himself? 1233 01:11:41,006 --> 01:11:42,280 That his actions were inevitable? 1234 01:11:43,019 --> 01:11:43,952 - [Dr. Keddie] His behavior was conditioned 1235 01:11:43,977 --> 01:11:46,472 by forces beyond his control. 1236 01:11:46,496 --> 01:11:49,286 - Would you modify your opinion about the defendant's capacity to choose 1237 01:11:49,311 --> 01:11:52,362 between moral alternatives if you knew that he tried to escape-- 1238 01:11:52,387 --> 01:11:53,262 - [Albert] Objection, Your Honor! 1239 01:11:53,287 --> 01:11:54,865 Your Honor knows my reason very well! 1240 01:11:55,878 --> 01:11:57,274 - [Judge] But I'm going to allow him to answer. 1241 01:11:57,299 --> 01:11:58,646 This is expert opinion. 1242 01:11:59,228 --> 01:12:00,344 - I would not change my opinion. 1243 01:12:00,369 --> 01:12:02,845 Trying to escape was expectable under the circumstances. 1244 01:12:02,870 --> 01:12:05,460 It has no bearing under his overall ability to choose. 1245 01:12:05,485 --> 01:12:09,413 - Why is it expectable for someone being held for murder to try to escape? 1246 01:12:09,438 --> 01:12:10,265 - It's natural. 1247 01:12:10,290 --> 01:12:10,824 - Normal? 1248 01:12:10,850 --> 01:12:11,511 - Objection! 1249 01:12:11,536 --> 01:12:12,333 - [Judge] Let him finish. 1250 01:12:14,133 --> 01:12:16,220 - It was instinctive. Choice had little to do with it. 1251 01:12:16,245 --> 01:12:19,318 - Isn't the mere fact of his attempt to escape prove to you 1252 01:12:19,343 --> 01:12:20,976 that he knew what he had done was wrong? 1253 01:12:21,001 --> 01:12:21,757 - It is not. 1254 01:12:21,782 --> 01:12:24,950 Anyone in this room would've tried to escape in a similar situation, 1255 01:12:24,975 --> 01:12:26,228 guilty or not. 1256 01:12:27,174 --> 01:12:31,101 Charles Reece is not capable of free will. My God, I've said that again and again. 1257 01:12:31,126 --> 01:12:32,991 - Doctor, have you coached him on his insanity defense? 1258 01:12:33,016 --> 01:12:33,631 - [Albert] Objection! 1259 01:12:33,656 --> 01:12:34,279 - I wanna answer this-- 1260 01:12:34,304 --> 01:12:35,842 [all talking at once] 1261 01:12:37,685 --> 01:12:38,369 - Let him answer. 1262 01:12:39,718 --> 01:12:40,779 - I demand to answer! 1263 01:12:40,804 --> 01:12:41,676 - And I'll let him answer, 1264 01:12:41,701 --> 01:12:44,316 but don't you interrupt him again, Mr. Fraser, you understand me? 1265 01:12:44,341 --> 01:12:45,228 - Yes, Your Honor. 1266 01:12:45,253 --> 01:12:46,791 - Now I resent the charges you've made. 1267 01:12:47,898 --> 01:12:50,449 I understand the revulsion everyone feels in the face of brutal murder. 1268 01:12:51,927 --> 01:12:52,880 But I see him, too. 1269 01:12:53,717 --> 01:12:55,640 He shouldn't be killed. He should be treated and studied. 1270 01:12:57,487 --> 01:12:59,962 What makes up a respectable young man turn into a killer? 1271 01:13:00,581 --> 01:13:03,141 I wanna save him because he has that secret. 1272 01:13:04,116 --> 01:13:05,887 Perhaps the next time someone like him could be treated. 1273 01:13:05,912 --> 01:13:07,376 Perhaps we can vaccinate against murder. 1274 01:13:07,401 --> 01:13:10,843 We need to understand this man for the betterment of society. 1275 01:13:14,278 --> 01:13:16,016 - Even at the price of five lives? 1276 01:13:21,388 --> 01:13:22,986 - That may be the most terrible part of all. 1277 01:13:25,531 --> 01:13:26,493 The price of knowledge. 1278 01:13:31,281 --> 01:13:35,471 - There is no doubt that Charles Reece has to pay for what he has done. 1279 01:13:37,461 --> 01:13:38,670 The payment is hard. 1280 01:13:40,700 --> 01:13:42,835 Some people think it's just about the hardest payment 1281 01:13:42,860 --> 01:13:44,436 that we can conceive of. 1282 01:13:45,617 --> 01:13:49,107 He will be locked up, without the possibility of ever, 1283 01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:53,481 remember that, of ever getting out for the rest of his life. 1284 01:13:56,089 --> 01:13:57,943 Once a verdict of death has been carried out, 1285 01:13:57,968 --> 01:13:58,670 that's final. 1286 01:13:59,719 --> 01:14:01,754 Nothing can change what you've done. 1287 01:14:02,509 --> 01:14:05,123 So you must feel completely secure in this decision. 1288 01:14:05,148 --> 01:14:09,832 You must feel that this is the only right verdict in this case. 1289 01:14:13,045 --> 01:14:15,985 If you wake up the day after the verdict and you say to yourself, 1290 01:14:17,247 --> 01:14:19,648 Oh, my God, I've made a mistake. 1291 01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:22,865 It's too late. 1292 01:14:25,742 --> 01:14:26,902 One night, ten years from now, 1293 01:14:26,927 --> 01:14:28,374 you might wake up in the middle of the night and, 1294 01:14:28,399 --> 01:14:31,242 and you suddenly realize I've made this mistake, 1295 01:14:31,267 --> 01:14:33,016 I sent Charlie to his death. 1296 01:14:34,616 --> 01:14:37,038 And there's nothing that you or anybody else in this whole world 1297 01:14:37,063 --> 01:14:38,796 can do about that. Not then. 1298 01:14:39,998 --> 01:14:43,838 You see, that's the kind of decision that you must make. 1299 01:14:47,271 --> 01:14:52,286 - The defendant wiped out five people, our fellow human beings, 1300 01:14:53,783 --> 01:14:57,723 cruelly and brutally, in the most cold-hearted 1301 01:14:57,748 --> 01:15:01,252 and pre-meditated manner, he's wiped them off the face of the earth. 1302 01:15:06,597 --> 01:15:07,181 And what has happened? 1303 01:15:10,108 --> 01:15:12,265 Well, we've talked to you in great length. 1304 01:15:13,764 --> 01:15:15,495 Not about the victims but about the defendant! 1305 01:15:18,389 --> 01:15:19,248 About his life. 1306 01:15:20,788 --> 01:15:25,034 About his feelings, his problems, his needs, his desires, 1307 01:15:26,485 --> 01:15:30,128 and in the final, brutal act, he is trying to steal the compassion 1308 01:15:30,153 --> 01:15:32,127 that belongs to those victims! 1309 01:15:36,740 --> 01:15:42,035 Those victims deserve their time in this courtroom. 1310 01:15:47,773 --> 01:15:48,917 Now, we've heard medical evidence 1311 01:15:50,797 --> 01:15:54,064 saying that it took the defendant three minutes to butcher Barbara Ellis 1312 01:15:54,089 --> 01:15:55,065 after he shot her. 1313 01:15:56,245 --> 01:16:01,677 And she was just one of five victims. 1314 01:16:05,546 --> 01:16:09,276 We are now going to stop for three minutes 1315 01:16:12,578 --> 01:16:15,763 and I want you to think about what this man did to her, 1316 01:16:17,176 --> 01:16:19,912 and I want you to also think about the other four victims, 1317 01:16:22,754 --> 01:16:26,205 and about their last, precious minutes of life 1318 01:16:26,230 --> 01:16:31,128 as this man horribly, brutally murdered them. 1319 01:16:35,663 --> 01:16:40,355 This is how long it took for just one of them to die. 1320 01:16:40,380 --> 01:17:21,518 [clock ticking] 1321 01:17:27,181 --> 01:17:28,111 [woman clearing throat] 1322 01:17:28,136 --> 01:17:40,927 [clock ticking] 1323 01:17:54,975 --> 01:17:56,202 [coughing] 1324 01:17:56,227 --> 01:18:34,298 [clock ticking] 1325 01:18:36,084 --> 01:18:44,061 The life of an innocent human being is worth more than the life of a murderer. 1326 01:18:49,793 --> 01:18:53,127 Charles Reece must die. 1327 01:18:55,018 --> 01:18:57,261 - If you believe the defendant knew what he was doing, 1328 01:18:57,286 --> 01:18:59,349 then you must find him legally sane. 1329 01:19:01,147 --> 01:19:03,117 If you believe he did not, then you must him him insane. 1330 01:19:04,223 --> 01:19:07,495 In order to find him guilty, you must find that he intended to commit the crimes. 1331 01:19:08,525 --> 01:19:11,437 His intention is as much a part of the offense as the act itself. 1332 01:19:12,972 --> 01:19:15,214 And if you find Mr. Reece guilty of multiple murder, 1333 01:19:16,798 --> 01:19:19,353 be aware that he could be sentenced to die in the gas chamber. 1334 01:19:20,632 --> 01:19:22,850 The decision that you make must be on the evidence 1335 01:19:22,875 --> 01:19:23,980 and not on sympathy. 1336 01:19:24,005 --> 01:19:26,005 This case now remains with you. 1337 01:19:33,582 --> 01:19:34,497 - What the hell are we gonna do? 1338 01:19:35,946 --> 01:19:38,491 - I can't understand how a decent boy could change so much. 1339 01:19:39,877 --> 01:19:40,777 - He has to be crazy, that's all. 1340 01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:43,142 - [inaudible 01:19:38] is possible? 1341 01:19:44,410 --> 01:19:45,990 - What would you do if he'd killed your son or daughter? 1342 01:19:46,932 --> 01:19:48,033 That's how we have to look at it. 1343 01:19:48,679 --> 01:19:50,369 We have to put ourselves in the place of the victims. 1344 01:19:51,205 --> 01:19:54,154 - We've got to try to understand the difference between real insanity 1345 01:19:55,273 --> 01:19:56,282 and legal insanity. 1346 01:19:56,913 --> 01:19:57,541 - How the hell do we do that? 1347 01:19:57,566 --> 01:19:59,060 - We've gotta try. 1348 01:19:59,565 --> 01:20:01,639 - Everybody admits he did the killings so let's just deal with the facts. 1349 01:20:01,664 --> 01:20:02,953 - We can't just deal with the facts. 1350 01:20:05,197 --> 01:20:07,803 - If we send him to a mental institution, he, he could be released. 1351 01:20:08,848 --> 01:20:10,839 Those psychiatrists and lawyers won't have to live next door to him, 1352 01:20:10,864 --> 01:20:12,632 we will. Our neighbors will. 1353 01:20:12,657 --> 01:20:15,908 - Killing this poor, sick young man just doesn't make sense, I don't think. 1354 01:20:16,682 --> 01:20:18,995 It's not gonna bring back the victims, and it's no better than what he did. 1355 01:20:19,020 --> 01:20:20,020 It's insane. 1356 01:20:20,045 --> 01:20:22,314 - Well, sure, anybody who did what he did is insane. 1357 01:20:22,340 --> 01:20:23,980 Dan White was insane. 1358 01:20:25,570 --> 01:20:26,686 Maybe the whole world is insane. 1359 01:20:26,711 --> 01:20:29,264 But that doesn't mean that we should excuse what he did. 1360 01:20:29,289 --> 01:20:30,902 There has to be rules. 1361 01:20:31,862 --> 01:20:33,965 - But you don't take a prisoner's life just because they're insane. 1362 01:20:33,990 --> 01:20:36,463 - You kill them if they're insane and they wanna kill you. 1363 01:20:46,380 --> 01:20:47,241 - [Bailiff] All rise. 1364 01:20:54,546 --> 01:20:55,173 - [Judge] Be seated. 1365 01:20:58,444 --> 01:20:59,761 Have you reached a verdict Mr. Bayles? 1366 01:20:59,786 --> 01:21:00,829 - Yes, Your Honor, we have. 1367 01:21:00,854 --> 01:21:02,175 - [Judge] Please hand it to the bailiff. 1368 01:21:06,205 --> 01:21:06,749 Thank you. 1369 01:21:18,802 --> 01:21:20,012 Madame Clerk, please read the verdicts. 1370 01:21:22,524 --> 01:21:24,347 - [Clerk] Superior Court of California, County of Stockton, 1371 01:21:24,372 --> 01:21:27,152 The People of State of California, Plaintiff, 1372 01:21:27,177 --> 01:21:29,729 versus Charles Edmund Reece, Defendant. 1373 01:21:30,509 --> 01:21:34,442 We, the jury, in the above-entitled cause, find the defendant, Charles Edmund Reece, 1374 01:21:34,467 --> 01:21:40,374 guilty of a violation of Section 187 of the Penal Code 1375 01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:44,986 of the State of California, to which, murder of felony relating to Barbara Ellis 1376 01:21:45,011 --> 01:21:48,933 as charges set forth in count one of the information on file herein, 1377 01:21:48,958 --> 01:21:51,694 dated March 24, 1987. 1378 01:21:51,719 --> 01:21:54,032 Guilty of a violation of Section 187, 1379 01:21:55,323 --> 01:21:57,866 murder of felony relating to Robert Hendrickson, 1380 01:21:59,326 --> 01:22:02,073 - [Albert] It isn't over yet. It's only the first part of the trial. 1381 01:22:02,098 --> 01:22:03,350 We still got a shot to save your life. 1382 01:22:03,375 --> 01:22:06,329 We can still show the jury that you aren't responsible. 1383 01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:10,052 Your Honor, I'm gonna request that PET scan be performed to my client 1384 01:22:10,077 --> 01:22:12,423 as reliable way of showing the jury that he's mentally ill 1385 01:22:12,449 --> 01:22:13,383 during the penalty phase. 1386 01:22:14,351 --> 01:22:17,475 - PET scan only proports to show images of the brain's chemistry 1387 01:22:17,499 --> 01:22:19,049 at a given moment in time. 1388 01:22:19,074 --> 01:22:22,152 In this case, it's after the crime was committed. 1389 01:22:22,177 --> 01:22:24,440 It doesn't address the question of responsibility. 1390 01:22:25,419 --> 01:22:28,223 - But I understand that it can show whether or not there is mental illness. 1391 01:22:28,248 --> 01:22:30,040 - Your Honor, this is a new form of brain imaging 1392 01:22:30,065 --> 01:22:33,483 which is used in the diagnosis of epilepsy, depression, 1393 01:22:33,507 --> 01:22:35,552 Alzheimer's disease, as well as mental deficiency. 1394 01:22:35,577 --> 01:22:40,122 Depriving Mr. Reece to put this in front of the jury denies him a fair trial. 1395 01:22:40,147 --> 01:22:41,920 - Your Honor, the studies don't all agree. 1396 01:22:41,945 --> 01:22:44,526 It's only another gadget to hide Reece's responsibility. 1397 01:22:45,865 --> 01:22:47,200 - Well, let's air on the side of caution. 1398 01:22:48,525 --> 01:22:49,409 I'm going to order the test. 1399 01:22:49,434 --> 01:22:50,268 - [Albert] Thank you, Your Honor. 1400 01:22:51,407 --> 01:22:52,587 - We'll let the jury evaluate it. 1401 01:22:54,684 --> 01:22:55,823 Nobody knows what it'll show. 1402 01:23:02,336 --> 01:23:03,158 - [Charles] You're taking my blood. 1403 01:23:03,183 --> 01:23:05,216 - [Dr. Mahon] Just a few samples. It's nothing to worry about. 1404 01:23:06,300 --> 01:23:06,904 - What for? 1405 01:23:06,929 --> 01:23:09,701 - To measure the blood sugar that's gettin' to your brain. That's all. 1406 01:23:12,032 --> 01:23:12,985 - You're poisoning me. 1407 01:23:36,596 --> 01:23:38,731 - [Young Charles] Is my daddy going to bring me a Christmas present? 1408 01:23:38,756 --> 01:23:40,040 - [Mrs. Reece] No, Charles. 1409 01:23:40,065 --> 01:23:40,996 - [Young Charles] Why not? 1410 01:23:41,021 --> 01:23:43,171 - [Mrs. Reece] Because I don't want him to see you. 1411 01:23:47,097 --> 01:23:47,982 - [Young Reece] Daddy! 1412 01:24:06,717 --> 01:24:08,369 - [Dr. Mahon] These are abnormal patterns, without a doubt. 1413 01:24:08,394 --> 01:24:09,640 - What does that tell you? 1414 01:24:10,440 --> 01:24:13,488 - Well, this yellow-green area here is consistent with schizophrenia. 1415 01:24:15,189 --> 01:24:18,554 What you're seeing is a computer-enhanced image of the chemistry of the brain. 1416 01:24:20,245 --> 01:24:23,339 And what it shows... is a picture of madness. 1417 01:24:36,874 --> 01:24:37,758 - [Dr. Keddie] How are you feeling? 1418 01:24:37,783 --> 01:24:38,494 - [Albert] Grand. 1419 01:24:38,518 --> 01:24:42,550 [beeping] 1420 01:24:54,366 --> 01:24:54,879 - Charles. 1421 01:24:56,485 --> 01:24:57,401 - Charles, I've got some great news. 1422 01:25:03,633 --> 01:25:05,937 - [Mr. Bayles] Your Honor, based on the new scientific evidence, 1423 01:25:06,866 --> 01:25:10,613 we, the jury, find that the defendant should go to a state mental hospital. 1424 01:25:42,981 --> 01:25:43,814 - [Gene] Careful now, that's hot stuff. 1425 01:25:45,881 --> 01:25:47,082 - [Andy] Oh, no! 1426 01:25:47,107 --> 01:25:47,909 - In the middle, okay? 1427 01:25:48,682 --> 01:25:50,007 Strike it. Atta boy! Oh, get in there! 1428 01:25:51,295 --> 01:25:52,327 - [Andy] I could do it, Daddy. 1429 01:25:52,352 --> 01:25:54,672 - [Gene] Almost, alright, Andy, get 'em going now. Come on. 1430 01:25:54,697 --> 01:25:55,479 - [woman] You get another one. 1431 01:25:55,503 --> 01:25:57,277 - We gotta win one this time. 1432 01:25:57,302 --> 01:25:58,097 Alright. 1433 01:25:58,122 --> 01:25:58,918 - [woman] You can do it! 1434 01:25:58,943 --> 01:25:59,689 - Come on. 1435 01:25:59,714 --> 01:26:00,743 - [woman] One more. 1436 01:26:00,768 --> 01:26:02,272 - Just one more, one more, one more. 1437 01:26:02,297 --> 01:26:03,219 All right! 1438 01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:04,642 - Yeah! 1439 01:26:04,668 --> 01:26:06,613 - Look at that. Whoo! 1440 01:26:08,072 --> 01:26:08,824 - [Andy] Come on, Daddy. 1441 01:26:08,849 --> 01:26:10,004 - [Gene] Alright, sure is, Andy. 1442 01:26:11,297 --> 01:26:12,313 There's a north star over there, 1443 01:26:12,338 --> 01:26:13,701 and that's Mars. 1444 01:26:13,726 --> 01:26:15,894 Right over there is the Little Dipper. 1445 01:26:15,919 --> 01:26:17,560 Did you find the Big Dipper? 1446 01:26:17,585 --> 01:26:20,189 - [Andy] Uhm, over there. 1447 01:26:20,214 --> 01:26:20,983 - [Gene] That's it. 1448 01:26:22,839 --> 01:26:24,428 - [Andy] Can you tell me a story? 1449 01:26:24,453 --> 01:26:25,351 - [Gene] Sure, Andy. 1450 01:26:27,009 --> 01:26:27,876 Let's see. 1451 01:26:27,901 --> 01:26:32,435 Once upon a time, there was a castle by the sea, 1452 01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:34,693 - Big castle? 1453 01:26:34,718 --> 01:26:35,875 - No, just a little castle. 1454 01:26:38,607 --> 01:26:39,808 It had flowers, trees... 1455 01:26:41,386 --> 01:26:42,294 - And a doggy? 1456 01:26:43,458 --> 01:26:45,168 - And a doggy. Yeah. 1457 01:26:50,162 --> 01:26:50,969 Dear Mr. Tippetts, 1458 01:26:52,650 --> 01:26:55,303 It's important that you understand why I had to do what I did. 1459 01:26:57,095 --> 01:26:59,264 I had no hate for your wife and your little boy, 1460 01:27:00,165 --> 01:27:01,375 even though your wife wa mean to me. 1461 01:27:03,951 --> 01:27:05,693 I needed their blood to help me do my work. 1462 01:27:08,245 --> 01:27:11,873 They've now been sent to a better place away from this violent world. 1463 01:27:13,467 --> 01:27:14,833 I know there's a place where all little boys 1464 01:27:14,858 --> 01:27:16,655 can go have Christmas with their fathers, 1465 01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:18,610 so none of this can happen again. 1466 01:27:20,949 --> 01:27:23,593 I want you to know that I told them this and they understood. 1467 01:27:25,462 --> 01:27:28,874 If you get this letter, maybe you can visit me here 1468 01:27:28,899 --> 01:27:30,915 so that we could talk about this further. 1469 01:27:32,931 --> 01:27:36,148 I know that you're a very kind person and would wanna help me. 1470 01:27:38,227 --> 01:27:39,390 I need your help very much. 1471 01:27:41,197 --> 01:27:43,981 Yours truly, Charles Reece 115724