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I was lucky to live in a house
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when I was growing up as a child
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that was located in quite a silent location.
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There was also a good view out of my bedroom window.
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And I guess, as a young child, I fell in love with it.
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But I didn't know what that meant at all.
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I didn't even know what it was, to be honest.
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So, how do you talk coherently about silence?
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You could talk about silence...
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Does it exist in
a decibel sense?
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A noise sense,
or a lack of noise sense?
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And the literature is clear
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that silence doesn't
exist in that sense.
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The etymological roots of the word for silence
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are somewhat contested.
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There are two
words in particular
that people go back to.
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There's the gothic term
Ana-silan, and then desinere.
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One of them has to do with the wind dying down
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and the other has to do with
a kind of stopping of motion.
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They're both to do with an interruption, not just of sound,
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but the roots of
silence are also to do
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with the interruption
of our own...
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The imposition of our
own egos on the world.
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Almost all of the early theologians
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talk about the ultimate worship of god is silence.
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And that god dwells in the silence of eternity.
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The history of monastic life is as old as the history of the human race.
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I think the whole history of shamans
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is a history of a kind of proto-monasticism
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where someone in the tribe has clearly, evidently,
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a facility with silence
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and a facility
with understanding
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the unspoken
processes of the world.
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Retreating from
the cacophony of the world
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is stepping towards
everything that's essential.
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It's about stepping towards the world
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and really about learning how to love the world again.
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Historically, solitude has always
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had an exalted place in our culture
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and it's really only recently that it has fallen from grace
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and now needs to be restored to its rightful place.
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You look at all the religious traditions,
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Buddha, Jesus
and Mohammed, Moses,
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these were all seekers
who would go off
into the woods,
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think their thoughts,
have their revelations,
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and then come back
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and share those revelations with the wider world.
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We lose a lot when we don't allow people...
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Not just allow, but encourage people
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to go off by themselves.
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You know, whether literally into the woods, or metaphorically,
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to just go and chart your own journey and do it by yourself.
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There are certain paths in this life that you've got to walk alone
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and that's the only way to do them.
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Through zen, you need to feel
the silence with your body,
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experience it every day,
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and then it becomes
part of you.
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That is what
practicing zen is about.
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That is the life with zen.
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You honestly
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and genuinely
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live everyday life
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through silence.
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It's not like you are just
being silent and do nothing.
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Would you tell our panel,
please, what your name is
and where you're from?
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My name is John cage.
I'm from stony point,
New York.
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He is probably
the most controversial figure
in the musical world today
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and when you hear
his performance,
if you'll forgive me,
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you will understand why.
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The instruments
that he will use
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include a water pitcher,
an iron pipe,
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a goose call, a bathtub,
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five radios all hooked up
and a grand piano.
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Between 1950 and 1952,
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when cage created his
most important piece of music,
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cage had
a series of revelations.
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And the revelations informed the rest of his life
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and they informed the rest of his music, too.
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He'd been interested in
silence for a long time
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and he had been
appreciating noise
for a long time.
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So, he had this dualism about silence versus noise.
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So, he was looking for silence as an alternative to noise.
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When he ventured into
an anechoic chamber in Boston,
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he was looking for the quietest place on earth,
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because ramakrishna had said, "find the silence and you will find god."
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And I heard, in that room, two sounds.
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One was high and one was low.
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And I thought there was something wrong with the room.
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I went outside and found the engineer in charge
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and he said the high one was your nervous system in operation
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and the low one was your blood circulating.
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He realizes that silence is an abstraction,
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it's a human concept,
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and what's actually happening is that
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cage and his own body and his own being
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are completely interconnected with
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all beings and all bodies of beings, everywhere,
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and that everyone shares the same ground.
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Then it became clear that...
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That the function of art
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is not to communicate one's
personal ideas or feelings,
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but rather to imitate nature
in her manner of operation.
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Cage's most important piece of music is,
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as many people know,
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actually not music at all.
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It's four and a half minutes of silence.
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When cage first performed that piece
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with David tudor as his pianist,
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he performed it in Woodstock, New York,
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at a little barn called Maverick concert house,
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and the audience went berserk.
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This is 1952. August 29, 1952.
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They were incensed.
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They were in an uproar over the performance.
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And afterwards,
John opened
the floor to questions.
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One of the artists
got up and said,
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"good people of Woodstock,
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"i think we should
run these people out of town."
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That was the reaction.
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Silence is where we hear
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something deeper than our chatter.
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And silence is where we speak something deeper than our words.
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All of us know that the most essential things in life
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are exactly what we can't express.
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Our relation to faith, our relation to love,
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our relation to death, our relation to divinity.
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So, I think silence is the resting place of everything essential.
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For the first, I don't know how many,
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hundred thousand years of human life,
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when we were out on the Savanna, learning about the forest,
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silence was essential to our survival.
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So, silence is our natural milieu,
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and the farther we get away from silence, the more we lose our humanity.
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I want you to answer the questions!
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I want you to answer the questions!
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- Was there...- Do I believe...
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I'm giving you
an opportunity here.
This is how to ask it.
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This is how you need...
I'm giving you an opportunity.
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This how you
need to ask...
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I'm doing the interview
here, Dana.
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But you weren't there...
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I don't need to
have been there!
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American individualism now has become
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more and more associated with
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our right and our
almost social obligation
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to impose our will
on the world,
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to get out our thoughts,
to not hesitate,
to not be shy.
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In race after race,
bottom line...
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In race after race...
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Third card trick...
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In race after race,
democrats are...
In any case...
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When it comes to women.
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Winning over
women in Colorado...
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There is such an intense,
overwhelming drive
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to contribute our
little ricocheting response
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to this soul-crushing din of the moment.
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...- over me.
- You're not...
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One of
the specific plans...
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Dana, you're not
gonna filibuster.
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I'm not going
to let you do it.
Ed, ed, ed!
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Let me answer your question you asked me earlier.
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I'm gonna go back
to this question.
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Throughout Japanese history,
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there has been an appreciation of softer, quieter registers of being.
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One of the most signal instances of this
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is really in relationship to the tea ceremony.
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One of the most important masters, sen rikyu,
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lived at a time of incredible martial activity
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among different samurai groups.
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And part of his interest in developing the tea ceremony,
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in the ways that he did,
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was to cultivate an appreciation for silence
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and silence's relationship to a more pacific environment in general.
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When guests entered
the tea room, they would
remove their katana swords.
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All of the participants leave
behind their social status,
distinctions,
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and other such concerns
when they enter the tea room.
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The participants concentrate
on the moment,
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finding awareness
of how each of them
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is contributing to this
singular, living experience.
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That is what's being
experienced amidst the
silence of the tea ceremony.
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As a result,
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there are no selfish desires
or thoughts of personal gain,
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only the peaceful world
inside the tea room.
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Silence allows everybody to have equal platform and equal voice
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because if nobody is talking, nobody is dominating.
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Silence is a sound,
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and I think it's a sound with many qualities.
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And I think if we
start to cultivate
an appreciation of silence
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as the precious thing it is,
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and enjoy it for
a few minutes a day,
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then it gives us a proper relationship with sound,
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with noise, with our own sound.
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It allows us to be much more balanced
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in the way that we relate to the world, much more conscious.
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When we throw around the term of silence,
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we may, in the first instance,
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imagine that we're seeking some kind of absolute quiet,
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but very, very few people look for that.
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What we're looking, I came to believe,
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is really more for a kind of balance in our environment.
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It's the particular balance of sound and quiet
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that maximizes our perceptual awareness of where we are.
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Sounds a little bit like
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one of those toys you see,
and you shake it,
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and it's like a little...
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Kind of like that sort of a...
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Kind of one of those...
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Well, probably should
leave him be, I suppose.
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The first superintendent of this park, Harry karstens,
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he was very aware of the solitude and quietude of this place.
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And he had an interesting quote in 1924,
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when he said,
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"there is much to learn by those who understand
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"the language of the great silent places."
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Oftentimes, I make measurements
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that can be as low as 13, 14 decibels in the wintertime.
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And in the summertime, might be in the 20-25 decibel range.
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As the background level decreases, your listening area increases.
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In a really still environment, you've got this situation
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where you're very large, acoustically.
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You can detect these very minute sounds from far away
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and it gives you this incredible sense of space,
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this openness.
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So, you know, we exist in the world,
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and to be able to explore that world
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with an unbroken attention,
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I think that's
one of the things
that both silence,
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and an intact soundscape,
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protects that sort of exploration.
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I guess I got hooked on birds when I was about eight.
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I heard the sound of a bird bathing in a woods pool
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behind my house in Virginia,
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and I did sort of a jungle crawl under all this catbrier
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and I came out onto this little blue-winged warbler
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bathing in a forest pool,
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and it was the most beautiful thing I'd ever seen.
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I really like
being in quiet places
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because I use my ears
for everything.
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Primitive man, if you didn't pay attention
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to every little thing around you,
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you were going to be
in trouble really fast,
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or you weren't going
to find anything to eat.
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And I think, for me,
it's a question of
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keeping in touch with
those primal instincts
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and just always being ready
for whatever comes your way.
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I call what I do the art of disappearing.
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It's a situational awareness, it's a richness of being,
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it's a tapping into
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this great show that's going on all around you.
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There's that herring.
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These very quiet environments
offer tremendous opportunities
for listening,
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but they're also
the most fragile
resources we have.
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Certainly, the physical beings we are,
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we're built to function in these places
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and to hear those distant sounds.
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If we really lose touch with our senses,
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with our capacity for deep listening,
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I think we'll lose a large piece of who we are,
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certainly of the animals we once were.
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It's just like our muscles,
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and if it happens over time, across generations,
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it may not be easily reversed.
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To lose our connection
with the world
through our senses,
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I think would be
a terrible loss,
and everyone knows this.
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I mean, the prospect
of being blinded or deafened
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I think would be terrifying
to most people.
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But in fact, it may be happening
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in a much more subtle way already.
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We humans lived in nature
for seven million years.
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Following the industrial
revolution modernization began
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which led to urbanization.
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Big cities like shibuya
started to appear,
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and at the same time, started
to create overwhelming noise.
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Evolution even causes
our genes to change.
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But this change doesn't occur
in just hundreds of years.
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It's believed to take
10,000 to 30,000 years
for this to happen.
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In other words,
we're still carrying the genes
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which allow us to adapt to
nature while we are living in
this artificial modern world.
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I believe that humans
originally, from a genetic
point of view prefer silence.
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We prefer this,
the silence of nature.
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Historically the forest
has been understood
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simply as a "nice and
relaxing place to go"
based on our experience.
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However, it's more than that.
It's preventive medicine.
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The forest's healing effect
comes with the ability
to prevent illness.
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It's not that
it will cure the illness,
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but it will reduce stress and
strengthen the immune system,
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preventing people
from getting sick.
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What is central
to this whole
situation we live in
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is silence.
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And that the sounds
that we notice
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are merely bubbles
on the surface of
silence that burst.
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Silence doesn't really exist.
Silence is sounds.
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If I stop talking,
for instance,
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now we hear
the sounds of sixth Avenue.
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Sound is affecting
our brain waves,
our heart rate, our breathing,
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our hormone secretions.
All of our physical rhythms
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are being affected
by sound outside us
all the time.
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A sudden noise, for example...
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So, anybody watching that
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probably had
a little shot of cortisol,
fight/flight hormone.
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And that happens to us a lot in cities.
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On the other hand, if you imagine surf,
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that would calm you down, in fact even send you to sleep.
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Many people will go to sleep to surf.
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So, physiologically sound affects us, that's the first way.
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Second is psychologically.
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It changes our mood, our feelings. Music does that.
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So do other things, like birdsong.
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The third way that sound affects us is cognitively.
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So, you can't understand two people talking at the same time.
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We've got a huge storage space in our brain,
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but the auditory input channel
is quite limited
in its bandwidth.
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Roughly 1.6
human conversations.
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Of course,
we have no ear-lids.
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And therefore if
we're in an office
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and we hear somebody talking
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and they're taking
up one of our 1.6,
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it doesn't leave us
with much bandwidth
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to listen to
our internal voice
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where we're trying
to write something
or calculate something.
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And the final way sound affects us is behaviorally.
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We'll move away from unpleasant sound.
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We'll move, if we can, towards pleasant sound.
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Here in London, they have about 140 tube stations
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with classical music playing in them now
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because the research has shown that classical music reduces vandalism.
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If you put pounding music on and you're driving,
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then suddenly you'll drive faster.
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That kind of behavioral change
happens to us all the time.
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Sound is a physical phenomenon, right?
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And when the sound hits the ear,
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the ear physiologically
picks up the sound
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brings it to the brain
and the sound is identified.
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Mama!
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When does it become noise?
That's a different part
of the brain.
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That's the part of the brain that says,
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you know, this particular sound
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is intruding on what I'm trying to do.
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This is unwanted, unpleasant sound.
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00:47:15,567 --> 00:47:18,167
It is official, arrowhead stadium is again
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the loudest outdoor stadium in the world.
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Fans reached 142.2 decibels,
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beating
the Seattle seahawks fans
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who previously
had that record.
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To put this amount of noise in perspective for you,
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it is more than a jet engine
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and far more than the human
pain tolerance of the ear,
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which is why
the chiefs passed out
about 36,000 earplugs,
349
00:47:37,922 --> 00:47:41,290
but that's only enough
for half of all these people
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that were inside tonight.
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I came to feel that
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one way of articulating the presence of noise
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is to think about sound that gets inside of you,
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00:47:58,810 --> 00:48:03,446
and for the time it's there, dominates all of your perceptual apparatus.
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00:48:03,448 --> 00:48:04,814
It might be bad, or it might be good,
356
00:48:04,816 --> 00:48:06,582
you might be in the mood for it or not,
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00:48:06,584 --> 00:48:07,950
but it's consuming you,
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00:48:07,952 --> 00:48:09,418
it's taking over your heartbeat
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00:48:09,420 --> 00:48:12,154
or at least taking over your attention.
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00:48:48,892 --> 00:48:54,730
Almost everybody knows
that education is very,
very, very important.
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00:48:54,732 --> 00:49:00,202
But with the train passing by
every, like, two minutes,
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00:49:00,204 --> 00:49:01,003
you can't hear some things
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00:49:01,005 --> 00:49:05,308
that could be very,
very important to know
when you grow older.
364
00:49:05,310 --> 00:49:08,477
That's right.
Okay, so she said...
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00:49:08,479 --> 00:49:09,245
For schools,
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the internal maximum that the city recommends is 35 decibels.
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00:49:14,085 --> 00:49:16,819
It's routinely over 85,
with the windows closed!
368
00:49:16,821 --> 00:49:19,722
When the windows are open,
it's routinely in the 90s,
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00:49:19,724 --> 00:49:21,624
and this school doesn't have
any air conditioning,
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00:49:21,626 --> 00:49:24,860
so in August and September
and may and June,
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00:49:24,862 --> 00:49:29,565
those windows have to be open
or it's unbearable
in the classrooms.
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00:49:52,489 --> 00:49:56,158
When people make decisions in noise,
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and this has been shown again and again,
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00:49:58,796 --> 00:50:00,997
their decisions are reactive.
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00:50:07,404 --> 00:50:11,407
Noise is a huge issue because it constantly
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00:50:11,409 --> 00:50:14,744
envelops everything we do. It surrounds us.
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00:50:14,746 --> 00:50:17,313
There's technical elements, devices,
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00:50:17,315 --> 00:50:19,949
pumps, alarms, physical environment,
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00:50:19,951 --> 00:50:24,253
in combination with humans that make mistakes.
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00:50:24,255 --> 00:50:27,523
We see very clearly anxiety,
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00:50:27,724 --> 00:50:29,725
delays in decision making,
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00:50:29,727 --> 00:50:31,994
errors in
receiving information,
383
00:50:31,996 --> 00:50:33,529
errors in
transmitting information,
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00:50:33,531 --> 00:50:37,833
errors in calculations
of medication dosages,
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00:50:38,235 --> 00:50:41,670
and a whole series
of other downstream problems
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00:50:41,672 --> 00:50:46,675
because of confusion caused by the overall external noise.
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00:51:10,534 --> 00:51:13,069
Mumbai is the loudest city in the world
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00:51:13,071 --> 00:51:14,670
according to an official statement
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00:51:14,672 --> 00:51:17,373
of the central pollution control board.
390
00:51:18,175 --> 00:51:21,077
We have a whole range of festivals in India.
391
00:51:21,079 --> 00:51:26,182
We call them traditional,
but traditionally
we didn't have loudspeakers.
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00:51:35,892 --> 00:51:38,327
I could say it
in terms of decibel levels,
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00:51:38,329 --> 00:51:40,496
but I think I should just say
that if you were to stand
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00:51:40,498 --> 00:51:44,066
right next to a jet engine for a long period of time,
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00:51:44,068 --> 00:51:45,801
that's what your house would be like
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00:51:45,803 --> 00:51:48,971
for at least three months during the festival season.
397
00:51:48,973 --> 00:51:51,507
And people can't bear it. People in hospital,
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00:51:51,509 --> 00:51:53,175
there have been instances of people
399
00:51:53,177 --> 00:51:55,744
who have died due to heart attacks.
400
00:51:59,182 --> 00:52:02,084
The supreme court of India first took notice of noise
401
00:52:02,086 --> 00:52:05,621
when a 10-year-old girl was raped during a festival
402
00:52:05,623 --> 00:52:09,291
and her screams couldn't be heard because of the noise.
403
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,401
If you look at what's happening today,
404
00:52:19,403 --> 00:52:23,639
I think we're in a kind of frenzied echo chamber.
405
00:52:25,275 --> 00:52:27,209
Visually, it's busier.
406
00:52:27,211 --> 00:52:29,512
Acoustically it's busier and louder.
407
00:52:29,514 --> 00:52:31,113
You just want to go buy a sweater
408
00:52:31,115 --> 00:52:32,748
and you're bombarded with loud music.
409
00:52:32,750 --> 00:52:36,585
There are decibel ratings
in New York restaurants
of 90 now.
410
00:52:36,587 --> 00:52:41,624
You're screaming at somebody from a foot away to be heard.
411
00:52:46,429 --> 00:52:47,596
Technically, in those
New York restaurants,
412
00:52:47,598 --> 00:52:51,333
all the waiters
should be going around
with hearing protectors on.
413
00:52:53,770 --> 00:52:55,638
Obviously, when you move to New York,
414
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:56,338
you're moving to a loud city.
415
00:52:56,340 --> 00:52:58,841
It's the biggest,
most vibrant city
in the country.
416
00:52:58,843 --> 00:53:02,077
It's famously loud,
it famously never sleeps.
417
00:53:02,079 --> 00:53:03,979
But what has seemed to happen
over the years,
418
00:53:03,981 --> 00:53:07,917
what has changed is
noise has become
more ubiquitous,
419
00:53:07,919 --> 00:53:12,454
and we seem to be almost desensitized to it.
420
00:53:13,623 --> 00:53:15,991
Do you want me to
ask the neighbors...
Is that sound...
421
00:53:15,993 --> 00:53:17,860
Yeah,
is that the thumping?
422
00:53:22,799 --> 00:53:27,036
Why should we always be stimulated, or more and more stimulated,
423
00:53:27,038 --> 00:53:28,637
so it'll reach a fever pitch...
424
00:53:28,639 --> 00:53:31,006
Then what happens? Where do you go next?
425
00:53:31,008 --> 00:53:36,478
There is a tinier and tinier space for reflective thought.
426
00:53:38,515 --> 00:53:41,083
The planes start at 6:03 in the morning.
427
00:53:41,085 --> 00:53:42,418
They usually stop at midnight,
428
00:53:42,420 --> 00:53:46,355
but sometimes they go to 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning.
429
00:53:47,424 --> 00:53:53,028
I did not sign up
for this kind of noise.
430
00:53:53,030 --> 00:53:54,496
Nobody did.
431
00:53:55,298 --> 00:53:58,834
They are making these precision lanes in the sky.
432
00:53:58,836 --> 00:54:01,904
Right now that Lane is over my house.
433
00:54:01,906 --> 00:54:04,540
Five years from now
it's going to be
over your house
434
00:54:04,542 --> 00:54:07,509
because those lanes
are going to be multiplied
435
00:54:07,511 --> 00:54:11,046
by 10 fold,
20 fold, 50 fold.
436
00:54:14,484 --> 00:54:18,621
Recent research is building on the foundation
437
00:54:18,623 --> 00:54:22,191
of really now almost 50 years of research
438
00:54:22,193 --> 00:54:23,592
that suggested that there are
439
00:54:23,594 --> 00:54:27,062
more serious health effects related to noise.
440
00:54:27,064 --> 00:54:29,765
Hypertension of
high blood pressure,
441
00:54:29,767 --> 00:54:31,734
and even more recently
442
00:54:31,736 --> 00:54:34,403
there is a very convincing effect
443
00:54:34,405 --> 00:54:36,372
of particularly transport noise,
444
00:54:36,374 --> 00:54:39,942
road traffic noise, on the risk of cardiovascular disease,
445
00:54:39,944 --> 00:54:44,413
of heart attacks,
myocardial infarction,
and even death from noise.
446
00:54:44,415 --> 00:54:48,484
Noise kills. And that's right,
this is what we have shown,
447
00:54:48,486 --> 00:54:50,152
that noise causes
heart disease.
448
00:54:50,154 --> 00:54:53,188
People don't die from one day to another
449
00:54:53,190 --> 00:54:55,924
because they visit a noisy area.
450
00:54:55,926 --> 00:54:58,360
If the noise stress
becomes chronic,
451
00:54:58,362 --> 00:55:01,230
if it's persistent
over many years,
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00:55:01,232 --> 00:55:04,433
all of a sudden you may have a heart attack,
453
00:55:04,734 --> 00:55:06,335
due to the chronic stress.
454
00:55:06,337 --> 00:55:09,938
You don't get used to it.
You cope with it.
455
00:55:09,940 --> 00:55:12,007
Something in your brain is having to go,
456
00:55:12,009 --> 00:55:15,277
"I'm not listening to that.
I'm still not listening
to that.
457
00:55:15,279 --> 00:55:17,313
"I'm definitely not
listening to that."
458
00:55:17,315 --> 00:55:18,047
And it takes effort.
459
00:55:18,049 --> 00:55:22,251
Somewhere there's mental effort going on to screen it out.
460
00:55:28,825 --> 00:55:31,226
That's 102 decibels going out.
461
00:56:35,625 --> 00:56:36,859
I guess
462
00:56:36,861 --> 00:56:43,432
the question that is on
everyone's mind is
why I'm doing this.
463
00:56:44,501 --> 00:56:47,836
I could say that it's, you know,
464
00:56:47,838 --> 00:56:52,207
merely a response to something like a culture
465
00:56:52,209 --> 00:56:57,112
that's more concerned about material things and leisure
466
00:56:57,114 --> 00:57:02,451
and less with reflection and introspection.
467
00:57:02,453 --> 00:57:06,054
I could say that it has something to do
468
00:57:06,056 --> 00:57:08,457
with some inner turmoil of my own,
469
00:57:08,459 --> 00:57:12,194
that it's me trying to figure out my life.
470
00:57:22,739 --> 00:57:27,443
Honestly, nothing quite
seems to do it for me.
471
00:57:27,445 --> 00:57:32,815
I'm not really sure why
i feel I need to do it.
472
00:57:33,616 --> 00:57:37,820
I have this feeling that it has a lot of potential
473
00:57:37,822 --> 00:57:41,623
to be something really meaningful for me,
474
00:57:41,625 --> 00:57:44,960
and hopefully for other people.
475
00:59:25,428 --> 00:59:29,398
Silence returns us to what is real.
476
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,166
This is how I see it.
477
00:59:43,813 --> 00:59:49,384
Silence is a journey into the wilderness and into the dark.
478
00:59:50,420 --> 00:59:52,821
You can't be sure what you're going to encounter there,
479
00:59:52,823 --> 00:59:56,158
and I think many people are rightly wary of silence
480
00:59:56,160 --> 01:00:01,129
because we use noise as a distraction and an evasion.
481
01:00:01,631 --> 01:00:06,301
Silence is a journey right into the heart of your being.
482
01:00:08,504 --> 01:00:12,841
If you allow silence to circulate, particularly among people,
483
01:00:12,843 --> 01:00:14,576
what you're going to discover is that
484
01:00:14,578 --> 01:00:18,213
your mind becomes aware of what the truth is.
485
01:00:20,650 --> 01:00:25,754
And sometimes truth is not that sugar-coated.
486
01:00:27,123 --> 01:00:28,991
Sometimes you have to face the truth
487
01:00:28,993 --> 01:00:32,961
that things are not going the way that you might want
488
01:00:32,963 --> 01:00:36,031
and that you're losing or you're failing,
489
01:00:36,033 --> 01:00:37,432
or they are.
490
01:00:40,136 --> 01:00:43,472
You might feel out of control because when silence circulates,
491
01:00:43,474 --> 01:00:48,143
it makes you aware that you're not that in control of anything, really.
492
01:00:48,145 --> 01:00:50,278
So it puts people against a wall and says,
493
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:54,816
"this is you and you're human and you're existing right now
494
01:00:54,818 --> 01:00:58,987
"and this is your reality. Do you like it?"
495
01:00:59,489 --> 01:01:01,690
And often people say "no."
496
01:01:09,265 --> 01:01:12,067
I guess that I would argue in defense
497
01:01:12,069 --> 01:01:13,802
of pursuing the experience regardless.
498
01:01:13,804 --> 01:01:20,075
That we have such a deficit of that kind of encounter in our lives right now.
499
01:01:20,077 --> 01:01:26,181
We have so little
that is opening out
onto something larger.
500
01:01:26,482 --> 01:01:28,116
We tend to have substituted
501
01:01:28,118 --> 01:01:31,553
human experience with technological experience.
502
01:01:32,689 --> 01:01:37,192
We think all this noise and artifice is human,
503
01:01:38,361 --> 01:01:39,795
but it's not.
504
01:01:39,797 --> 01:01:42,631
It takes us away from what is human.
505
01:01:44,867 --> 01:01:46,268
There's nothing wrong with it,
506
01:01:46,270 --> 01:01:50,772
but we tend to live via our ingenuity
507
01:01:50,774 --> 01:01:53,508
instead of being our own truth.
508
01:01:56,212 --> 01:01:59,014
So much in the ways that we exist,
509
01:01:59,016 --> 01:02:02,050
particularly our forms
of digital connectivity,
510
01:02:02,052 --> 01:02:05,721
take us out of ourselves all the time, all the time.
511
01:02:05,723 --> 01:02:08,924
And that's a different kind of desert,
512
01:02:08,926 --> 01:02:12,694
and ultimately to me, it's a much more frightening desert.
513
01:02:12,696 --> 01:02:16,598
Because that's a desert in which our individual self
514
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:20,869
is just obliterated in a circuit of constant
515
01:02:20,871 --> 01:02:26,608
very, very
surface-level communication
with others.
516
01:02:27,610 --> 01:02:31,279
The information revolution came without a manual,
517
01:02:31,281 --> 01:02:33,115
and I think
we are all noticing
518
01:02:33,117 --> 01:02:35,951
that machines can give us
pretty much everything
519
01:02:35,953 --> 01:02:39,121
except a sense of how to make
discerning use of machines,
520
01:02:39,123 --> 01:02:43,358
and that at some level,
we have to go offline
to collect ourselves
521
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,995
to begin to know
how to navigate
the ever more complicated
522
01:02:46,997 --> 01:02:49,965
and accelerating online world.
523
01:02:50,733 --> 01:02:51,266
In the 21st century,
524
01:02:51,268 --> 01:02:55,070
I think the need for silence is more urgent than it's ever been.
525
01:02:55,072 --> 01:02:59,107
There tends to be
a big technological
discussion about computers
526
01:02:59,109 --> 01:03:00,776
and whether they're
good or they're bad,
527
01:03:00,778 --> 01:03:03,211
and I think that's sort
of a silly discussion.
528
01:03:03,213 --> 01:03:05,213
But there should
be a discussion
529
01:03:05,215 --> 01:03:06,314
about how much time
you spend
530
01:03:06,316 --> 01:03:08,617
in the real world and how much time you withdraw.
531
01:03:08,619 --> 01:03:11,720
And I think that's going to be a very significant predictor
532
01:03:11,722 --> 01:03:13,755
of the earlier onset
of dementia
533
01:03:13,757 --> 01:03:20,095
and other declines in aging
than has ever happened before.
534
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,287
As we say...
535
01:03:45,788 --> 01:03:52,127
Modern people don't feel moved
or impressed just by living.
536
01:03:54,964 --> 01:03:57,732
In order to do so,
537
01:03:57,734 --> 01:04:03,939
we need to keep the silence
and examine ourselves.
538
01:04:20,590 --> 01:04:22,190
We have less silence,
539
01:04:22,192 --> 01:04:26,394
and by that I mean that the fabric of noise
540
01:04:26,396 --> 01:04:28,997
is more constant and pervasive.
541
01:04:28,999 --> 01:04:33,068
This shift to a constant envelopment
542
01:04:33,070 --> 01:04:36,238
within a band of noise that's too much,
543
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:39,341
I think is what's really driving us crazy.
544
01:04:40,443 --> 01:04:43,845
We just build these cities Willy-nilly. Tire noise,
545
01:04:43,847 --> 01:04:48,683
diesel sound, that kind of stuff is all around us all the time.
546
01:04:51,420 --> 01:04:56,758
Architecture to a large degree is about the visual impact of things.
547
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:58,860
So, it's about the visual impact of the facade.
548
01:04:58,862 --> 01:05:02,264
It's about the visual impact of the big public spaces.
549
01:05:02,266 --> 01:05:04,366
It's really not about the user's experience.
550
01:05:04,368 --> 01:05:06,868
It's really not about perceptual comfort.
551
01:05:06,870 --> 01:05:08,470
It's really not about
the user preference.
552
01:05:08,472 --> 01:05:11,006
You know, in the uk
architects train
for five years
553
01:05:11,008 --> 01:05:14,542
and they spend
one day on sound
in five years.
554
01:05:14,544 --> 01:05:16,678
It's no wonder
they're entirely ocular.
555
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,648
You ask an architect
what he's working on,
he'll show you a picture.
556
01:05:19,650 --> 01:05:25,420
People speak at somewhere
between 55 and 65
decibels usually,
557
01:05:25,422 --> 01:05:27,489
and often the heating
and cooling system
558
01:05:27,491 --> 01:05:28,423
in the building
is louder than that.
559
01:05:28,425 --> 01:05:32,260
This is absolutely
not an argument for
everywhere being quiet
560
01:05:32,262 --> 01:05:33,528
or everywhere being the same
561
01:05:33,530 --> 01:05:36,965
or that there's some sort of
panacea magic soundscape
562
01:05:36,967 --> 01:05:38,333
or that we want to
manipulate citizens
563
01:05:38,335 --> 01:05:41,670
into a nineteen eighty-four zombie state
or anything like that.
564
01:05:41,672 --> 01:05:44,439
If we all start taking on designing with sound,
565
01:05:44,441 --> 01:05:48,677
we will have a huge profusion of amazing sound to enjoy.
566
01:05:48,679 --> 01:05:52,547
Just like we have a huge profusion of furniture to enjoy.
567
01:05:52,549 --> 01:05:53,214
And just in the same way,
568
01:05:53,216 --> 01:05:54,649
I think we'll have a million
different soundscapes
569
01:05:54,651 --> 01:05:58,820
that you'll be able to buy
or download or stream.
570
01:06:09,899 --> 01:06:12,334
Quiet mark is the new award program
571
01:06:12,336 --> 01:06:13,535
from the uk's noise abatement society
572
01:06:13,537 --> 01:06:18,306
that awards the quietest, high-performance, low-noise technology
573
01:06:18,308 --> 01:06:21,076
across over 35 categories of product design,
574
01:06:21,078 --> 01:06:23,311
and also solutions to unwanted noise.
575
01:06:23,313 --> 01:06:27,749
Everything from home appliances, airplanes, cars,
576
01:06:27,751 --> 01:06:31,252
to the way we build houses with the materials.
577
01:06:31,554 --> 01:06:35,623
I think ultimately consumers
want more peace and quiet.
578
01:06:36,559 --> 01:06:38,994
And we've reached
a point where
579
01:06:38,996 --> 01:06:41,596
we have got so many
extraordinary layers
580
01:06:41,598 --> 01:06:46,634
of technology
around us helping us,
like a technology golden age,
581
01:06:46,869 --> 01:06:49,104
but the noise of
those machines have become
582
01:06:49,106 --> 01:06:51,172
almost too much for us
to really cope with,
583
01:06:51,174 --> 01:06:53,808
or we don't really know
what we're coping with.
584
01:07:00,349 --> 01:07:02,917
A lot of items are made these days
585
01:07:02,919 --> 01:07:06,721
without an awareness of their volume.
586
01:07:08,357 --> 01:07:13,728
You put them all together, it's a cacophony, it's not a symphony.
587
01:07:31,414 --> 01:07:36,985
We made this car
the smallest
mobile anechoic chamber.
588
01:07:37,219 --> 01:07:39,487
We put a lot of effort
589
01:07:39,489 --> 01:07:43,358
in modifying the materials which are used in the car
590
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:49,030
to get a very quiet and relaxing atmosphere in the car.
591
01:08:01,544 --> 01:08:05,013
It's not only the design outside the appliances,
592
01:08:05,015 --> 01:08:07,348
it's not only the user interface,
593
01:08:07,350 --> 01:08:08,049
it's the whole package,
594
01:08:08,051 --> 01:08:12,687
and sound is very,
very important these days
for the whole package.
595
01:08:13,956 --> 01:08:15,924
It's not only the decibels we measure,
596
01:08:15,926 --> 01:08:19,527
but it's also the quality of the sound we measure.
597
01:08:21,130 --> 01:08:24,899
We are hoping that we can reduce our noise impact,
598
01:08:24,901 --> 01:08:26,334
through our aircraft,
599
01:08:26,336 --> 01:08:31,606
for the people in our neighborhoods by 75% by 2020.
600
01:10:01,497 --> 01:10:06,367
Silence is available to everyone and it is never too late
601
01:10:06,369 --> 01:10:08,002
to seek silence.
602
01:10:09,004 --> 01:10:12,874
It isn't true that it's a rich man's plaything.
603
01:10:14,376 --> 01:10:17,445
If you really want to learn the worth of silence,
604
01:10:17,447 --> 01:10:20,148
then you will use your ingenuity to find
605
01:10:20,150 --> 01:10:24,185
a place and a time for that silence.
606
01:10:36,465 --> 01:10:38,199
All of us have changed
607
01:10:38,201 --> 01:10:44,906
in the time since 4'33"
was first made
in the early '50s.
608
01:10:45,708 --> 01:10:47,408
We have less...
609
01:10:48,077 --> 01:10:50,044
We have less confidence.
610
01:10:50,980 --> 01:10:55,016
Now in time, as it goes into the future,
611
01:10:55,284 --> 01:10:57,418
we wonder, for instance,
612
01:10:59,288 --> 01:11:01,623
how long the future will be.
613
01:11:01,824 --> 01:11:06,594
We don't take for granted
that it will be forever.
614
01:11:09,898 --> 01:11:12,267
We wonder whether we've...
615
01:11:12,269 --> 01:11:17,772
You might say, we wonder
whether we have
ruined the silence.
616
01:11:59,848 --> 01:12:01,015
4'33" has been performed
617
01:12:01,017 --> 01:12:03,584
all over the world in all kinds of circumstances.
618
01:12:03,586 --> 01:12:05,787
Some of them very casual, some of them,
619
01:12:05,789 --> 01:12:08,990
like carnegie hall, very formal.
620
01:12:10,292 --> 01:12:13,294
But people now respect this piece.
621
01:12:13,629 --> 01:12:16,464
People sit very quietly for it.
622
01:12:16,932 --> 01:12:21,803
It's as though without knowing anything about cage's history
623
01:12:21,805 --> 01:12:24,439
and why he came to this realization,
624
01:12:24,441 --> 01:12:25,807
it's as though people
625
01:12:25,809 --> 01:12:28,843
get a piece of that realization themselves.
626
01:12:29,044 --> 01:12:33,614
"Oh, yeah, four minutes and 33 seconds of meditation
627
01:12:33,616 --> 01:12:36,517
"in which everyone is silent together."
628
01:12:38,554 --> 01:12:41,055
It's the most extraordinary thing,
629
01:12:41,057 --> 01:12:44,992
to be in a place where it's being performed.
630
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:47,195
What you feel is the entire audience
631
01:12:47,197 --> 01:12:51,032
just listening to absolutely everything that happens.
632
01:12:52,601 --> 01:12:55,136
You just sense this breathing organism
633
01:12:55,138 --> 01:12:58,639
of people and this place, sharing this moment.
634
01:13:12,921 --> 01:13:15,623
Well, that's one of the most extraordinary performances
635
01:13:15,625 --> 01:13:20,061
I've ever experienced here in the barbican hall.
636
01:13:20,396 --> 01:13:24,832
4'33" by John cage.
637
01:14:23,091 --> 01:14:24,725
If we could all learn the work of silence,
638
01:14:24,727 --> 01:14:28,596
we'd take an awful lot of pressure off of our planet.
639
01:14:30,933 --> 01:14:32,900
There wouldn't be this constant seeking,
640
01:14:32,902 --> 01:14:34,869
seeking, seeking for something else
641
01:14:34,871 --> 01:14:36,938
to fill up that empty space,
642
01:14:36,940 --> 01:14:38,539
when what will fill up the empty space
643
01:14:38,541 --> 01:14:41,509
is actually going into the empty space.
644
01:14:48,383 --> 01:14:51,519
We do need to adjust to our environment.
645
01:14:53,388 --> 01:14:56,390
We also need to learn to be able to be silent
646
01:14:56,392 --> 01:14:59,227
and to draw on the wellspring of silence
647
01:14:59,229 --> 01:15:04,966
when the environment isn't conducive to silence.
648
01:15:10,372 --> 01:15:13,341
In a world of movement, stillness has become a great luxury,
649
01:15:13,343 --> 01:15:18,513
and in a world of distraction, it's attention that we're hungering for.
650
01:15:19,114 --> 01:15:20,648
And in a world of noise,
651
01:15:20,650 --> 01:15:22,517
silence calls us like
652
01:15:22,519 --> 01:15:26,854
a beautiful piece of music on the far side of the mountains.
653
01:15:33,595 --> 01:15:37,732
It's not some kind of exoticism,
654
01:15:38,467 --> 01:15:41,736
esoteric practices in a coded language.
655
01:15:41,738 --> 01:15:44,572
It's as simple as shifting your attention
656
01:15:44,574 --> 01:15:47,942
from the things that cause noise in your life
657
01:15:47,944 --> 01:15:50,845
to the vast interior spaciousness
658
01:15:50,847 --> 01:15:53,347
which is our natural silence.
659
01:16:02,491 --> 01:16:04,425
It's this process of ungrasping,
660
01:16:04,427 --> 01:16:07,361
it's the process of opening your hand,
661
01:16:07,496 --> 01:16:10,998
it's the process of unclenching a fist.
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