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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:24,990 --> 00:00:26,405 - As we mentioned, Donald Trump today called 2 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:27,924 for more and more military spending, more troops, 3 00:00:27,958 --> 00:00:29,788 more ships, more submarines, more planes. 4 00:00:29,822 --> 00:00:30,961 Didn't say how big 5 00:00:30,996 --> 00:00:32,584 the increase in military spending would be, 6 00:00:32,618 --> 00:00:33,930 but he did throw out a lot of numbers 7 00:00:33,964 --> 00:00:35,069 in justifying the increase. 8 00:00:35,104 --> 00:00:36,588 [TV buzzing] 9 00:00:36,622 --> 00:00:40,661 - And look at this, almost 600 billion in spending there, 10 00:00:40,695 --> 00:00:43,215 almost as much as all the other nine 11 00:00:43,250 --> 00:00:44,975 of the top 10 combined, Anderson. 12 00:00:45,010 --> 00:00:46,460 [TV buzzing] 13 00:00:46,494 --> 00:00:50,153 - The pentagon has secured a $630 billion budget 14 00:00:50,188 --> 00:00:53,053 for next year, even though it's failed to even account 15 00:00:53,087 --> 00:00:56,332 for the money it's received since 1996. 16 00:00:56,366 --> 00:01:00,163 A whooping $6.5 trillion of taxpayer cash 17 00:01:00,198 --> 00:01:02,062 have gone to defense programs, 18 00:01:02,096 --> 00:01:06,100 none of which has been audited and this a blank budget 19 00:01:06,135 --> 00:01:09,207 has spanked concerns over political fraud. 20 00:01:09,241 --> 00:01:10,587 [TV buzzing] 21 00:01:10,622 --> 00:01:13,176 - A Reuters investigation says since 1996, 22 00:01:13,211 --> 00:01:17,905 the Pentagon has spent $8.5 trillion in taxpayer money 23 00:01:17,939 --> 00:01:19,872 that has never been accounted for. 24 00:01:19,907 --> 00:01:21,357 [TV buzzing] 25 00:01:21,391 --> 00:01:22,772 - One thing I found very interesting in this report 26 00:01:22,806 --> 00:01:24,222 is that the Pentagon apparently uses 27 00:01:24,256 --> 00:01:28,088 a standard operating procedure to enter false numbers 28 00:01:28,122 --> 00:01:31,298 or so-called plugs to cover lost or missing information 29 00:01:31,332 --> 00:01:33,265 in their accounting in order to submit 30 00:01:33,300 --> 00:01:35,233 a balanced budget to the treasury 31 00:01:35,267 --> 00:01:37,131 so they can writing everything. 32 00:01:37,166 --> 00:01:38,995 - And this is probably the most shocking part of this, 33 00:01:39,029 --> 00:01:40,790 is that they get to the end of the day and they say, 34 00:01:40,824 --> 00:01:42,343 "Oh, there's there's money missing. What do we do? 35 00:01:42,378 --> 00:01:45,139 Well, we'll just put a number in there that says it's there 36 00:01:45,174 --> 00:01:46,692 and we'll sort it out later." 37 00:01:46,727 --> 00:01:49,143 I mean, again, this is the type of operating practice 38 00:01:49,178 --> 00:01:51,111 that if you did it in your own business, 39 00:01:51,145 --> 00:01:53,734 if you try to do it with your own taxes for the government, 40 00:01:53,768 --> 00:01:55,253 they'd haul you off to jail. 41 00:01:55,287 --> 00:01:56,564 [TV buzzing] 42 00:01:56,599 --> 00:01:58,739 - [Reporter] What is the Pentagon's black budget 43 00:01:58,773 --> 00:02:01,569 being used for? Weapons? Defense? 44 00:02:01,604 --> 00:02:05,055 This is the story of one military family's, 45 00:02:05,090 --> 00:02:09,094 extraordinary claims, claims that could be found true 46 00:02:09,129 --> 00:02:10,992 in a hidden reality. 47 00:02:11,027 --> 00:02:12,718 - I'm Phil Schneider, 48 00:02:12,753 --> 00:02:16,722 I spent 17 years in Black Budget Programs, 49 00:02:16,757 --> 00:02:21,175 government geologist as engineer, structural engineer 50 00:02:21,210 --> 00:02:24,765 with aerospace applications, self-taught metallurgist. 51 00:02:25,904 --> 00:02:28,424 In working with the Black Projects, 52 00:02:28,458 --> 00:02:31,392 I was involved in something very controversial, 53 00:02:31,427 --> 00:02:33,912 almost totally unbelievable to most of you. 54 00:02:33,946 --> 00:02:37,536 I was involved in building another base 55 00:02:37,571 --> 00:02:41,299 inside of Dulce, New Mexico, which is Los Alamos laboratory, 56 00:02:41,333 --> 00:02:43,991 on the Southwest part of the Archer ladle Mesa. 57 00:02:44,025 --> 00:02:46,373 We were in the process of the early stages of building 58 00:02:46,407 --> 00:02:50,031 we drilled four large tunnel like holes, 59 00:02:50,066 --> 00:02:53,103 some of them ran two and a half miles under surface. 60 00:02:53,138 --> 00:02:55,105 Anyway, after we drilled all four holes, 61 00:02:55,140 --> 00:02:57,832 about a two days to drill, all four of them. 62 00:02:57,867 --> 00:03:00,007 And when you build an underground base, 63 00:03:00,041 --> 00:03:03,838 you drill four basic holes and then you build, called stopes 64 00:03:03,873 --> 00:03:05,357 or across a number of holes across 65 00:03:05,392 --> 00:03:07,463 and then you use blasting equipment 66 00:03:07,497 --> 00:03:09,223 and you literally blast out 67 00:03:09,258 --> 00:03:13,262 or tunnel out or deflagarate or melt the rock out, 68 00:03:13,296 --> 00:03:15,367 the equipment kept coming up broken. 69 00:03:15,402 --> 00:03:16,610 So we wanted to go down, 70 00:03:16,644 --> 00:03:18,128 we wanted to send somebody down there, 71 00:03:18,163 --> 00:03:21,649 a human observer or human observers in this case, 72 00:03:21,684 --> 00:03:24,100 to find out what was going on. 73 00:03:24,134 --> 00:03:28,277 When I saw Green Berets and Black Berets people in camp 74 00:03:28,311 --> 00:03:31,349 inside of our geologists camp, I knew something was up, 75 00:03:31,383 --> 00:03:32,591 the gig was up. 76 00:03:32,626 --> 00:03:35,076 In this process, I was lower down in the basket 77 00:03:35,111 --> 00:03:38,218 of one of these holes and about from me 78 00:03:38,252 --> 00:03:41,255 to this elderly woman here in the front, 79 00:03:41,290 --> 00:03:44,845 was sitting a seven foot tall alien gray, 80 00:03:44,879 --> 00:03:48,089 the stench was worse than the worst garbage can, 81 00:03:48,124 --> 00:03:49,332 you can imagine. 82 00:03:49,367 --> 00:03:50,816 I didn't waste any time, I reached for my pistol, 83 00:03:50,851 --> 00:03:52,266 at that time, I was an engineer, 84 00:03:52,301 --> 00:03:54,372 I didn't have time to carry all a fold roll. 85 00:03:54,406 --> 00:03:57,029 One of these big submachine guns at all was seized spray 86 00:03:57,064 --> 00:03:58,790 and the yellow root and the outer perimeter 87 00:03:58,824 --> 00:04:00,999 and inner perimeter security people carried. 88 00:04:01,033 --> 00:04:03,864 I carried a little Walther PPK pistol with a nine shot clip. 89 00:04:03,898 --> 00:04:07,074 Plus you're in a, almost like a space suit environment 90 00:04:07,108 --> 00:04:08,903 and you're reaching for a gun, 91 00:04:08,938 --> 00:04:10,767 it's not the easiest thing to do 92 00:04:10,802 --> 00:04:12,459 and then to pop a clip in it 93 00:04:13,908 --> 00:04:14,806 and start shooting 94 00:04:16,394 --> 00:04:18,016 and I killed two of them. 95 00:04:18,050 --> 00:04:21,468 Yes, they're mortal and they do die. 96 00:04:21,502 --> 00:04:25,368 However, in the process, one of them did this, 97 00:04:25,403 --> 00:04:28,164 all I remember is that he just kind of waved his hand 98 00:04:28,198 --> 00:04:31,374 in front of his chest and the next thing I know 99 00:04:31,409 --> 00:04:33,790 this blue beam hit me and just literally opened me up 100 00:04:33,825 --> 00:04:35,240 like a fish. 101 00:04:35,275 --> 00:04:37,518 There was some form of electrical force 102 00:04:37,553 --> 00:04:41,004 because kind of like being hit by lightning bolt, 103 00:04:41,039 --> 00:04:43,041 burned all my toenails off of me 104 00:04:43,075 --> 00:04:46,320 and there was a Green Berets that was right behind me, 105 00:04:46,355 --> 00:04:48,771 but he risked his life, he shoved me back in the basket 106 00:04:48,805 --> 00:04:51,705 and hit the button and took me up, 107 00:04:51,739 --> 00:04:53,327 and I wouldn't be alive talking to you today 108 00:04:53,362 --> 00:04:56,917 if it weren't for him, I'm forever indebted, 109 00:04:56,951 --> 00:04:58,643 he lost his life. 110 00:04:58,677 --> 00:05:03,682 66 secret service agents, Green Berets, Black Berets, 111 00:05:05,063 --> 00:05:07,376 crack troops lost their lives because the government, 112 00:05:07,410 --> 00:05:12,415 our United States government lied, did not tell us anything 113 00:05:14,486 --> 00:05:16,039 about the alien threat. 114 00:05:17,627 --> 00:05:22,149 There's a war underneath there and I'm talking dead serious. 115 00:05:23,288 --> 00:05:25,601 [loud bang] 116 00:05:29,432 --> 00:05:31,952 [tense music] 117 00:05:40,650 --> 00:05:44,067 The large alien berets had been in camp there for 118 00:05:44,102 --> 00:05:48,175 as best as believe possible, about four or 500 years, 119 00:05:49,383 --> 00:05:51,627 they've been in one of their internal bases. 120 00:05:51,661 --> 00:05:54,664 And we drilled holes right on top of that, 121 00:05:54,699 --> 00:05:57,943 all the stinking air, all the black city air came right out 122 00:05:57,978 --> 00:05:59,635 as soon as one of the first hole was stopped 123 00:05:59,669 --> 00:06:02,120 and all this suit came up, 124 00:06:02,154 --> 00:06:05,986 well that's when all hell broke loose, really, all started. 125 00:06:06,020 --> 00:06:07,953 I have a picture of one of the aliens, 126 00:06:07,988 --> 00:06:11,957 it's been working for the United States Pentagon 127 00:06:11,992 --> 00:06:16,997 for the last 58 years, his name is Valliant Four, 128 00:06:18,447 --> 00:06:21,001 he's right here, there is my father in the background. 129 00:06:21,035 --> 00:06:24,038 This whole place, the ready room of the US Eldridge, 130 00:06:24,073 --> 00:06:26,316 I'll be like, he's probably explained, 131 00:06:26,351 --> 00:06:27,732 or maybe even shown you this picture. 132 00:06:27,766 --> 00:06:30,148 It's a list of some of the notable people in it, 133 00:06:30,182 --> 00:06:33,669 and they're all the atomic bomb scientists of the day, 134 00:06:33,703 --> 00:06:37,983 all the time variant experimentalists of the day, 135 00:06:38,018 --> 00:06:41,953 all the top physicists of that particular day. 136 00:06:41,987 --> 00:06:45,370 This was in August of 1943. 137 00:06:45,405 --> 00:06:46,336 - [Narrator] Phil Schneider gave 138 00:06:46,371 --> 00:06:48,856 most of his lectures in 1995. 139 00:06:48,891 --> 00:06:51,859 He gained a following speaking around the United States, 140 00:06:51,894 --> 00:06:54,448 telling people about his alleged experiences. 141 00:06:54,483 --> 00:06:56,899 Phil claimed that he personally knew people 142 00:06:56,933 --> 00:07:00,454 who also worked in Black Budget Programs who were murdered, 143 00:07:00,489 --> 00:07:04,078 and that most of them were made to look like a suicide. 144 00:07:04,113 --> 00:07:06,495 - 11 of my best friends in the last 22 years 145 00:07:06,529 --> 00:07:11,431 have been murdered, eight of them, all suicide. 146 00:07:12,570 --> 00:07:15,365 I finally got window with one of them, 147 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,367 Portland police is now involved in one 148 00:07:17,402 --> 00:07:21,475 murdered by suicide [indistinct] 149 00:07:21,510 --> 00:07:23,650 - [Narrator] On August six, 1993, 150 00:07:23,684 --> 00:07:25,652 two years before his lectures, 151 00:07:25,686 --> 00:07:28,137 one of Phil's best friends, Ron Rummel 152 00:07:28,171 --> 00:07:31,209 was found dead in the same McClay park, Oregon. 153 00:07:31,243 --> 00:07:34,074 He'd suffered a fatal gunshot wound to the head, 154 00:07:34,108 --> 00:07:36,007 and a gun was found nearby. 155 00:07:36,041 --> 00:07:39,873 Police ruled it as suicide, but Phil and many others 156 00:07:39,907 --> 00:07:42,496 strongly believed that he was murdered. 157 00:07:42,531 --> 00:07:46,466 Ron Rummel was best known for publishing "The Alien Digest", 158 00:07:46,500 --> 00:07:49,261 a newsletter filled with stories and testimonies 159 00:07:49,296 --> 00:07:50,987 regarding the UFO coverup. 160 00:07:51,022 --> 00:07:52,264 [TV buzzing] 161 00:07:52,299 --> 00:07:54,681 - Author Ron Rummel was about to publish a book, 162 00:07:54,715 --> 00:07:55,923 revealing what he believed 163 00:07:55,958 --> 00:07:58,823 to be the real purpose of the Star Wars Project 164 00:07:58,857 --> 00:08:00,341 when his body 165 00:08:00,376 --> 00:08:02,861 was found here in McClay Park in Portland, Oregon. 166 00:08:02,896 --> 00:08:04,311 His death was ruled suicide, 167 00:08:04,345 --> 00:08:06,244 but few agree with that verdict. 168 00:08:06,278 --> 00:08:08,280 - As far as the police and the FBI are concerned, 169 00:08:08,315 --> 00:08:09,489 it's case closed. 170 00:08:10,973 --> 00:08:14,528 Unfortunately, there's a shocking thing that his murderer, 171 00:08:14,563 --> 00:08:17,566 I believe, his murderer is still out there at large. 172 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,291 - Why is it you're speaking out? 173 00:08:19,326 --> 00:08:22,502 - There've been enough lives taken 174 00:08:22,536 --> 00:08:25,401 under the premise of suicide when they were actually 175 00:08:25,435 --> 00:08:30,337 very stable individuals, they had families 176 00:08:30,371 --> 00:08:33,305 and they had lives to look forward to. 177 00:08:33,340 --> 00:08:35,722 They had every reason to live and if there is 178 00:08:35,756 --> 00:08:37,586 some form of conspiracy out there, 179 00:08:37,620 --> 00:08:39,726 then the more people that are talking 180 00:08:40,865 --> 00:08:44,903 might end up saving lives in the long run. 181 00:08:44,938 --> 00:08:48,148 My friend, Ronald Lee Rummel was an Air Force Officer 182 00:08:48,182 --> 00:08:50,046 as a Silver star winner. 183 00:08:51,531 --> 00:08:54,879 There's a good chance that when I fly back to Raina, 184 00:08:54,913 --> 00:08:57,122 excuse me, to Vegas, I have to drive home, 185 00:08:58,710 --> 00:09:00,229 and I left my car down in Vegas, 186 00:09:00,263 --> 00:09:02,472 I'll drive home alone, I'm scared to hell. 187 00:09:04,233 --> 00:09:07,616 - [Narrator] On January 17th, 1996, 188 00:09:07,650 --> 00:09:10,826 after not being seen for at least five days, 189 00:09:10,860 --> 00:09:13,622 Phil Schneider was found dead in his apartment 190 00:09:13,656 --> 00:09:15,451 by his landlord and a detective 191 00:09:15,485 --> 00:09:17,591 from the Clackamas County Sheriff's Office. 192 00:09:17,626 --> 00:09:21,422 The autopsy report listed the cause of death as unknown, 193 00:09:21,457 --> 00:09:23,597 but it was later discovered 194 00:09:23,632 --> 00:09:27,325 that Phil was actually strangled by his own catheter hose. 195 00:09:27,359 --> 00:09:30,742 Was this a case of negligence or a cover up? 196 00:09:30,777 --> 00:09:34,056 - I, and there's a number of you ladies present, 197 00:09:34,090 --> 00:09:37,646 so I won't gory you out, but Al has seen some of the ones 198 00:09:37,680 --> 00:09:40,718 and there's few other people that have been 199 00:09:40,752 --> 00:09:42,720 to a few of my other lecturers and they can attest 200 00:09:42,754 --> 00:09:47,276 that I have been shot, I've been run off the road, 201 00:09:47,310 --> 00:09:50,175 I've been pushed off the road. 202 00:09:50,210 --> 00:09:52,626 - [Reporter] This is an account of Phil's death, 203 00:09:52,661 --> 00:09:56,216 a case that reeks of suspicion, neglect of duty 204 00:09:56,250 --> 00:09:58,183 and disregard for human dignity. 205 00:09:58,218 --> 00:10:00,703 The first official police report defines 206 00:10:00,738 --> 00:10:04,189 Phil's cause of death to be from natural causes. 207 00:10:04,224 --> 00:10:08,642 On January 16th, 1996, Deputy Officer McCleland 208 00:10:08,677 --> 00:10:11,403 is alerted by a suspicious apartment manager 209 00:10:11,438 --> 00:10:13,785 that he has not seen Phil for weeks. 210 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,065 Upon first investigation when entering Phil's apartment, 211 00:10:18,100 --> 00:10:21,621 Officer McCleland finds Phil's body beside his bed 212 00:10:21,655 --> 00:10:25,107 with his face lying in the seat of his own wheelchair. 213 00:10:25,141 --> 00:10:28,006 Medical and forensic examiner, Mr. Coleman, 214 00:10:28,041 --> 00:10:30,595 chooses not to respond to the crime scene. 215 00:10:30,630 --> 00:10:34,185 At this point, Phil had been dead for three to four days, 216 00:10:34,219 --> 00:10:37,464 January 17th, his body is then whisked away 217 00:10:37,498 --> 00:10:38,914 to a funeral home. 218 00:10:38,948 --> 00:10:42,158 January 18th, Mr. Took calls from the funeral home 219 00:10:42,193 --> 00:10:44,954 to alert the police that he has found a catheter cord 220 00:10:44,989 --> 00:10:46,542 wrapped around Phil's neck. 221 00:10:46,576 --> 00:10:49,234 This leads to the starting of detective Haggens' 222 00:10:49,269 --> 00:10:51,098 investigation on the same day. 223 00:10:51,133 --> 00:10:53,825 Haggens seems to be the only one interested 224 00:10:53,860 --> 00:10:55,965 in following up this case honestly. 225 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,451 He calls medical examiner Coleman and Sergeant Joyce, 226 00:10:59,486 --> 00:11:01,591 who both elect not to respond. 227 00:11:01,626 --> 00:11:04,146 Upon further investigation while interrogating 228 00:11:04,180 --> 00:11:07,528 Deputy McCleland, the deputy recalls the catheter cord 229 00:11:07,563 --> 00:11:09,945 being near Phil's neck at the scene of the crime. 230 00:11:09,979 --> 00:11:12,810 It is concluded in this report that the only person 231 00:11:12,844 --> 00:11:15,088 who could have been around Phil at this time 232 00:11:15,122 --> 00:11:18,298 was a woman from the Oregon Senior and Disabled Services. 233 00:11:18,332 --> 00:11:21,197 Other things recovered from the scene of the investigation 234 00:11:21,232 --> 00:11:22,992 were seven pill medications. 235 00:11:23,027 --> 00:11:25,615 Detectives, Harris, and Kennel are then assigned 236 00:11:25,650 --> 00:11:27,134 to the case, 237 00:11:27,169 --> 00:11:30,344 an autopsy is to be held by Dr. Gunson on January 19th. 238 00:11:30,379 --> 00:11:33,244 This was requested as well by Cynthia, Phil's late wife. 239 00:11:33,278 --> 00:11:35,971 The autopsy report surmises Phil's cause of death 240 00:11:36,005 --> 00:11:38,663 by his fixation, ruled a suicide. 241 00:11:38,698 --> 00:11:42,529 Recovered stomach material showed no signs of pills. 242 00:11:42,563 --> 00:11:44,082 Furthermore, blood and urine 243 00:11:44,117 --> 00:11:46,498 are placed on a three month hold, 244 00:11:46,533 --> 00:11:49,501 only to be reported as lost when Cynthia calls, 245 00:11:49,536 --> 00:11:52,090 after the given time has passed. 246 00:11:52,125 --> 00:11:54,679 The catheter cord is described as being wrapped 247 00:11:54,714 --> 00:11:55,887 around the neck once 248 00:11:55,922 --> 00:11:58,407 and then tied from the front very tight. 249 00:11:58,441 --> 00:12:02,376 Now you must ask yourself, how can Phil be found dead 250 00:12:02,411 --> 00:12:05,138 via strangulation with his face in the seat 251 00:12:05,172 --> 00:12:07,105 of his own wheelchair? 252 00:12:07,140 --> 00:12:09,798 Is this something that he could do himself? 253 00:12:09,832 --> 00:12:12,766 Without taking any form of medical assistance 254 00:12:12,801 --> 00:12:14,147 in order to sedate? 255 00:12:14,181 --> 00:12:15,527 What do we have here? 256 00:12:15,562 --> 00:12:18,599 Is this a clean cut case of suicide, 257 00:12:18,634 --> 00:12:21,741 or could there likely be foul play? 258 00:12:21,775 --> 00:12:25,986 Could this be a case of murder by suicide? 259 00:12:26,021 --> 00:12:29,334 This case was determined on January 19th 260 00:12:29,369 --> 00:12:33,235 as death by suicide, which is further indicated 261 00:12:33,269 --> 00:12:34,754 on his death certificate. 262 00:12:36,100 --> 00:12:40,760 But, something of even more suspicion appears in this case. 263 00:12:42,106 --> 00:12:44,591 In the Oregonian obituaries, a statement has given, 264 00:12:44,625 --> 00:12:48,422 not by Cynthia, that he died from a stroke. 265 00:12:51,149 --> 00:12:53,842 - [Lee] So what happened here? 266 00:12:53,876 --> 00:12:57,397 - Teddy gets them samples of Phil, my dad and my mom, 267 00:13:00,710 --> 00:13:04,680 they were suddenly missing, mysteriously missing. 268 00:13:04,714 --> 00:13:06,924 - [Lee] And what did they say? 269 00:13:06,958 --> 00:13:08,580 They were just as surprised as you were? 270 00:13:08,615 --> 00:13:11,100 - [Marie] Yeah, "Oh, we don't have those samples." 271 00:13:12,239 --> 00:13:13,275 - [Lee] It's like they never did, or they just 272 00:13:13,309 --> 00:13:14,069 - Yeah. - [Lee] They just... 273 00:13:14,103 --> 00:13:15,587 Didn't even know? 274 00:13:15,622 --> 00:13:17,797 - [Marie] They said, "We'll hold them for a year.", 275 00:13:17,831 --> 00:13:21,662 and mom came back 11 months, before the due date, 276 00:13:21,697 --> 00:13:24,942 you know, there was one month until 277 00:13:24,976 --> 00:13:26,978 they would not hold them anymore 278 00:13:27,013 --> 00:13:30,326 and they suddenly didn't have them anymore, yeah. 279 00:13:32,156 --> 00:13:33,674 - Look, let's get right down to it. 280 00:13:33,709 --> 00:13:36,677 When you're dealing with something of that magnitude, 281 00:13:36,712 --> 00:13:38,714 what it appears to be, that is the presence 282 00:13:38,748 --> 00:13:42,580 of a variety of non-humans here on earth 283 00:13:42,614 --> 00:13:45,583 that are here for some sort of agenda 284 00:13:45,617 --> 00:13:47,861 and everything else that goes along with that, 285 00:13:47,896 --> 00:13:50,312 including possible collaboration 286 00:13:50,346 --> 00:13:52,624 by various human groups within, 287 00:13:52,659 --> 00:13:56,836 this is obviously incredibly explosive material. 288 00:13:56,870 --> 00:14:00,149 And so it goes without saying, 289 00:14:00,184 --> 00:14:04,429 that the intelligence agencies, the deep black agencies 290 00:14:04,464 --> 00:14:07,777 [indistinct] groups that are involved in this 291 00:14:07,812 --> 00:14:12,334 would need to keep this as quiet as possible, 292 00:14:12,368 --> 00:14:15,509 and they have to, for their own preservation. 293 00:14:15,544 --> 00:14:20,549 So in other words, secret becomes the ultimate goal for this 294 00:14:21,688 --> 00:14:24,001 and that means secrecy in theory, forever, 295 00:14:25,105 --> 00:14:27,763 forever, secrecy forever. 296 00:14:27,797 --> 00:14:30,939 If there are leaks that are going to come out afterwards, 297 00:14:30,973 --> 00:14:33,700 you have to find a way to disable those leaks, 298 00:14:33,734 --> 00:14:36,358 either by disabling the information 299 00:14:36,392 --> 00:14:39,188 or the individual behind it, 300 00:14:39,223 --> 00:14:41,121 doesn't have to be by killing them 301 00:14:41,156 --> 00:14:43,917 it could be by ruining their reputation, 302 00:14:43,952 --> 00:14:45,919 by discrediting them in one way or another, 303 00:14:45,954 --> 00:14:47,196 that's just as good. 304 00:14:47,231 --> 00:14:48,922 Certainly, one the thing that we know 305 00:14:48,957 --> 00:14:53,962 over the last 60, 70 years, that assassination techniques 306 00:14:55,584 --> 00:14:58,932 have become very, very sophisticated, very sophisticated. 307 00:15:00,554 --> 00:15:05,180 They are suiciding someone, and that is killing them, 308 00:15:05,214 --> 00:15:08,148 and making it be a suicide. 309 00:15:08,183 --> 00:15:12,083 This is widespread, it's been widespread for many years, 310 00:15:12,118 --> 00:15:14,189 During the days of the Cold War, 311 00:15:14,223 --> 00:15:16,985 the KGB was very good at this. 312 00:15:17,019 --> 00:15:20,747 To this day, you're not gonna get the CIA to admit, 313 00:15:20,781 --> 00:15:23,819 but we know that this happened. 314 00:15:23,853 --> 00:15:27,788 It happened in the case of a fellow named Frank Olson 315 00:15:27,823 --> 00:15:32,828 in the early 1950s and when in a biological warfare expert 316 00:15:34,278 --> 00:15:38,040 who was given LSD without knowledge by a CIA friend. 317 00:15:38,075 --> 00:15:41,078 Long story short, he was taken to large hotel 318 00:15:41,112 --> 00:15:42,700 in New York city to the tenth floor 319 00:15:42,734 --> 00:15:44,115 and was thrown out the window. 320 00:15:44,150 --> 00:15:45,323 They made it seem like a suicide, 321 00:15:45,358 --> 00:15:48,326 there was no suicide, Olson was killed 322 00:15:49,465 --> 00:15:51,226 because he'd become a security risk. 323 00:15:52,330 --> 00:15:54,298 This is an old game. 324 00:15:54,332 --> 00:15:59,337 So back to our scenario here of multiple non human groups, 325 00:16:00,787 --> 00:16:03,928 with possible human alien interaction going on. 326 00:16:03,963 --> 00:16:05,585 This is a secret that has to be kept 327 00:16:05,619 --> 00:16:07,173 from their point of view 328 00:16:07,207 --> 00:16:10,038 and anyone who threatens that secrecy 329 00:16:10,072 --> 00:16:12,005 has gotta be [indistinct] 330 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,594 whether by discrediting that person 331 00:16:15,802 --> 00:16:17,977 or [indistinct], by killing them. 332 00:16:20,013 --> 00:16:23,189 - [Narrator] Upon examination, it seems easy to accept 333 00:16:23,223 --> 00:16:26,261 the theory that Phil was a victim of homicide, 334 00:16:26,295 --> 00:16:28,090 but what does that mean for his claims 335 00:16:28,125 --> 00:16:30,058 of aliens living underground? 336 00:16:30,092 --> 00:16:32,129 Years after Schneider's death, 337 00:16:32,163 --> 00:16:35,132 other claims of a joint human-alien base 338 00:16:35,166 --> 00:16:39,136 underneath Dulce, New Mexico are surfacing left and right. 339 00:16:39,170 --> 00:16:42,484 The book "UFO Highway" by Anthony Sanchez 340 00:16:42,518 --> 00:16:45,004 is essentially transcripts of interviews 341 00:16:45,038 --> 00:16:47,799 with a person only known as Colonel X, 342 00:16:47,834 --> 00:16:50,630 who supposedly worked inside this facility 343 00:16:50,664 --> 00:16:53,598 and is known to believe that Phil Schneider 344 00:16:53,633 --> 00:16:55,048 was really there. 345 00:16:55,083 --> 00:16:57,844 Shows like History Channel's "UFO Hunters" 346 00:16:57,878 --> 00:17:01,054 have even visited the area, looking for clues. 347 00:17:01,089 --> 00:17:03,712 - It's a 14-mile underground tunnel 348 00:17:03,746 --> 00:17:05,714 that goes under that mountain there. 349 00:17:05,748 --> 00:17:07,129 - [Man] Yes. 350 00:17:07,164 --> 00:17:09,235 - [Narrator] Even Jesse Ventura's "Conspiracy Theory" 351 00:17:09,269 --> 00:17:12,479 on True TV paid a visit to the alleged location 352 00:17:12,514 --> 00:17:13,998 of the Dulce Base. 353 00:17:14,033 --> 00:17:16,242 - They have it pretty well secured. 354 00:17:16,276 --> 00:17:17,070 - Do they? 355 00:17:17,105 --> 00:17:18,589 - Yeah, the government. 356 00:17:18,623 --> 00:17:20,349 - [Narrator] Some other pretty credible sources 357 00:17:20,384 --> 00:17:23,007 for alien activity in the Archuleta Mesa 358 00:17:23,042 --> 00:17:25,906 include the high number of Apache Native Americans 359 00:17:25,941 --> 00:17:28,012 who have some pretty insane stories 360 00:17:28,047 --> 00:17:29,772 of strange happenings in the area. 361 00:17:29,807 --> 00:17:31,222 [TV buzzing] 362 00:17:31,257 --> 00:17:33,673 - Rumor has it there is a secret base hidden underneath 363 00:17:33,707 --> 00:17:35,157 the Archuleta Mesa here. 364 00:17:35,192 --> 00:17:37,021 The mountain overlooks Dulce, 365 00:17:37,056 --> 00:17:40,093 some people in town say the base is run by aliens, 366 00:17:40,128 --> 00:17:41,991 working with our federal government 367 00:17:42,026 --> 00:17:45,064 to conduct mind control and genetic experiments. 368 00:17:45,098 --> 00:17:46,582 Do you believe that? 369 00:17:46,617 --> 00:17:50,483 - Yeah, well a whole bunch of people have seen it, you know. 370 00:17:50,517 --> 00:17:54,314 - The ground opened up, steam coming out of it. 371 00:17:54,349 --> 00:17:56,696 - Geri Julian says she had her first 372 00:17:56,730 --> 00:18:00,458 extra terrestrial encounter right here on her Dulce ranch 373 00:18:00,493 --> 00:18:01,977 about 40 years ago. 374 00:18:02,011 --> 00:18:05,774 - It was huge, I just saw the bottom of it, you know. 375 00:18:05,808 --> 00:18:07,879 It was flat like this. 376 00:18:07,914 --> 00:18:09,122 [quick whooshing] 377 00:18:09,157 --> 00:18:10,089 - [Reporter] Many of her neighbors 378 00:18:10,123 --> 00:18:12,539 claim similar strange sightings. 379 00:18:12,574 --> 00:18:15,784 - Fat in the middle and the kinda like rounded on the sides. 380 00:18:15,818 --> 00:18:17,510 You're speechless, you know, 381 00:18:17,544 --> 00:18:19,995 you just don't know what to think. 382 00:18:20,029 --> 00:18:22,618 - [Reporter] Sometime in the seventies, things changed, 383 00:18:22,653 --> 00:18:25,449 that's when cows started turning up mutilated. 384 00:18:25,483 --> 00:18:28,003 - It just cut out in between the legs right here, 385 00:18:28,037 --> 00:18:29,487 we seen one. 386 00:18:29,522 --> 00:18:31,317 - All I know it's not a predator that's doing it, 387 00:18:31,351 --> 00:18:32,973 someone's doing it. 388 00:18:33,008 --> 00:18:36,011 - Local police never definitively said who's to blame, 389 00:18:36,045 --> 00:18:39,394 locals say it has to be something out of this world, 390 00:18:39,428 --> 00:18:41,982 they say, they know it sounds crazy. 391 00:18:42,017 --> 00:18:46,125 - I'll submit to a lie detector test or anything. 392 00:18:46,159 --> 00:18:47,954 - [Narrator] To be fair, at this point, 393 00:18:47,988 --> 00:18:50,439 we have to also play devil's advocate 394 00:18:50,474 --> 00:18:52,855 with Phil Schneider's extraordinary claims. 395 00:18:52,890 --> 00:18:55,720 It is entirely possible that he simply heard 396 00:18:55,755 --> 00:18:58,309 about the tales of UFO and underground bases 397 00:18:58,344 --> 00:19:01,519 and the Archuleta Mesa area and made up his own story 398 00:19:01,554 --> 00:19:03,142 based on those stories. 399 00:19:03,176 --> 00:19:05,799 In order to at least make an attempt at finding out 400 00:19:05,834 --> 00:19:07,387 if he was telling the truth or not? 401 00:19:07,422 --> 00:19:10,977 We must first know who Phil Schneider was. 402 00:19:11,011 --> 00:19:12,806 - [Cynthia] I kind of knew about Phillip 403 00:19:12,841 --> 00:19:16,085 I mean, I had met him through the Oregon Agate 404 00:19:16,120 --> 00:19:19,606 and mineral Society in Portland, Oregon. 405 00:19:19,641 --> 00:19:23,472 I had been a past president of the society, 406 00:19:23,507 --> 00:19:26,234 had about five hundred members. 407 00:19:26,268 --> 00:19:29,858 So it's a large group of people who came together 408 00:19:29,892 --> 00:19:33,275 every other week to study rocks and minerals. 409 00:19:34,656 --> 00:19:35,795 - [Narrator] What year was this? 410 00:19:35,829 --> 00:19:37,797 - [Cynthia] 1985. 411 00:19:37,831 --> 00:19:41,697 Phillip grew up in a Navy Army Force family 412 00:19:41,732 --> 00:19:45,701 'cause he was all over, places with his dad. 413 00:19:45,736 --> 00:19:47,462 So let's see, while he was young 414 00:19:47,496 --> 00:19:49,498 I think they also went to London, 415 00:19:49,533 --> 00:19:51,914 it was in the early 50s, 1950s. 416 00:19:53,295 --> 00:19:55,124 So he was in London and I think that's when Oscar 417 00:19:55,159 --> 00:19:56,850 was working in NATO. 418 00:19:56,885 --> 00:20:00,371 He was [indistinct] armed force work in NATO. 419 00:20:00,406 --> 00:20:02,718 But he kind of knew that his dad was doing 420 00:20:02,753 --> 00:20:06,757 a lot of hot secret things later on in life. 421 00:20:06,791 --> 00:20:09,932 - I'd also like to mentioned something about my father. 422 00:20:09,967 --> 00:20:14,972 My father was a U-boat captain in Hilter's Navy, 423 00:20:15,835 --> 00:20:17,008 he was captured by the French, 424 00:20:17,043 --> 00:20:19,597 turned over to Third Army, the US Third Army 425 00:20:19,632 --> 00:20:22,704 and then US Third Army turned him over to the Navy. 426 00:20:22,738 --> 00:20:24,464 And he was a master machinist, 427 00:20:24,499 --> 00:20:25,983 that's not a journeyman, 428 00:20:26,017 --> 00:20:29,055 a master means they can take a block of metal and make a gun 429 00:20:29,089 --> 00:20:31,989 or a watch or some other finance instrument, 430 00:20:32,023 --> 00:20:34,888 he was a master machinist, he later became an MD doctor 431 00:20:34,923 --> 00:20:37,719 and part of the Aerospace Medicine Group 432 00:20:37,753 --> 00:20:39,686 of the United States Navy. 433 00:20:39,721 --> 00:20:43,276 Was instrumental in helping build the USS Nautilus 434 00:20:43,311 --> 00:20:46,555 and its predecessor, The Enterprise, 435 00:20:46,590 --> 00:20:49,075 the first nuclear powered aircraft carrier 436 00:20:49,109 --> 00:20:51,146 and other ships like it. 437 00:20:51,180 --> 00:20:53,838 - [Reporter] Phil's father Oscar Auto Schneider 438 00:20:53,873 --> 00:20:57,946 was also involved in government secrecy and black projects. 439 00:20:57,980 --> 00:21:01,639 In the 1990s, during Phil Schneider's lecture tour 440 00:21:01,674 --> 00:21:03,227 across the United States, 441 00:21:03,262 --> 00:21:06,403 he was known to carry many documents and pictures, 442 00:21:06,437 --> 00:21:09,026 providing evidence to certain testimony 443 00:21:09,060 --> 00:21:12,132 about controversial subjects he would be discussing. 444 00:21:12,167 --> 00:21:14,790 Furthermore, there were four documents 445 00:21:14,825 --> 00:21:17,897 which Phil carried with him on lecture tour. 446 00:21:17,931 --> 00:21:21,556 These documents were allegedly owned by Oscar Schneider 447 00:21:21,590 --> 00:21:24,938 while he was in office working for the United States Navy 448 00:21:24,973 --> 00:21:26,630 in the 1950s. 449 00:21:26,664 --> 00:21:27,907 During this time, 450 00:21:27,941 --> 00:21:31,359 the rumored Philadelphia experiment took place. 451 00:21:31,393 --> 00:21:34,258 And perhaps these documents are the smoking gun 452 00:21:34,293 --> 00:21:38,883 that prove, in fact, the Philadelphia experiment did occur. 453 00:21:40,264 --> 00:21:42,853 The first document, details and autopsy report 454 00:21:42,887 --> 00:21:46,270 on one of the crew members from the Philadelphia experiment. 455 00:21:46,305 --> 00:21:49,929 - [Cynthia] One of the letters that Oscar wrote 456 00:21:49,963 --> 00:21:51,965 about the autopsy 457 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,314 of the Philadelphia experiment crew member [indistinct] 458 00:21:55,348 --> 00:21:57,488 he was pulling out of their... 459 00:21:57,523 --> 00:22:01,181 Back of their eyes and their arms, their legs 460 00:22:01,216 --> 00:22:03,460 with little things that looked like transistors, 461 00:22:03,494 --> 00:22:04,875 it's exactly what they were, 462 00:22:04,909 --> 00:22:09,776 they were little surveillance items that were placed 463 00:22:11,191 --> 00:22:13,711 into the bodies of the Philadelphia experiment crew members. 464 00:22:15,161 --> 00:22:17,266 - [Reporter] In this letter, it is addressed to Lieutenant 465 00:22:17,301 --> 00:22:18,785 Nathan F. Twining. 466 00:22:18,820 --> 00:22:21,063 Oscar seems to report on the vessel, 467 00:22:21,098 --> 00:22:23,376 which Twining staff couldn't find. 468 00:22:23,411 --> 00:22:27,035 Furthermore, it includes an order from J Edgar Horver 469 00:22:27,069 --> 00:22:30,556 to have all personnel undergo psychological testing. 470 00:22:30,590 --> 00:22:33,559 The third letter addresses Edward Condon. 471 00:22:33,593 --> 00:22:36,251 Edward Condon is well known for his involvement, 472 00:22:36,285 --> 00:22:38,978 explaining away all UFO phenomenon 473 00:22:39,012 --> 00:22:41,014 as simply optical illusions. 474 00:22:41,049 --> 00:22:44,466 However, in this letter, Oscar seems to be reporting 475 00:22:44,501 --> 00:22:48,470 to Edward that seven Philadelphia project experiencers 476 00:22:48,505 --> 00:22:51,059 had escaped from a psych ward that Oscar 477 00:22:51,093 --> 00:22:53,164 was holding and testing them at. 478 00:22:53,199 --> 00:22:55,270 He goes on to say that J. Edgar 479 00:22:55,304 --> 00:22:59,550 had declared the incident classified as 1-A Prime Directive, 480 00:22:59,585 --> 00:23:01,414 possibly meaning something in regards 481 00:23:01,449 --> 00:23:03,589 to a top secret security clearance, 482 00:23:03,623 --> 00:23:05,245 finishing this letter with a reference 483 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,627 to Nikola Tesla's spatial analyzer. 484 00:23:07,662 --> 00:23:10,009 This is significant because Nikola Tesla 485 00:23:10,043 --> 00:23:12,701 has always been known to be involved with the design 486 00:23:12,736 --> 00:23:14,496 of the machine, which would create 487 00:23:14,531 --> 00:23:18,120 the fabled Philadelphia experiments invisible technology. 488 00:23:18,155 --> 00:23:20,709 Condon, having been known most notoriously 489 00:23:20,744 --> 00:23:23,643 as the leading UFO debunker of his time, 490 00:23:23,678 --> 00:23:26,439 paved the way for secrecy and coverups 491 00:23:26,474 --> 00:23:28,821 in this realm that we study today. 492 00:23:28,855 --> 00:23:32,445 The fourth and final letter, Oscar Schneider writes again 493 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,827 "In consideration of the latent facts, 494 00:23:34,861 --> 00:23:39,487 "considering the fate of the U.S.S Farrenseth, DE-173, 495 00:23:39,521 --> 00:23:41,661 "all ships, personnel and material 496 00:23:41,696 --> 00:23:43,663 "must be quarantined absolute 497 00:23:43,698 --> 00:23:46,839 "until further notice, no exceptions. 498 00:23:46,873 --> 00:23:50,463 "An onsite Naval inspection is ordered forthwith 499 00:23:50,498 --> 00:23:52,914 "as Bureau of Ships reticent requirements 500 00:23:52,948 --> 00:23:57,953 "in section 93-A, please include DE-173 ships' log 501 00:23:59,196 --> 00:24:00,646 "to Admiral Roscoe Hillenkolte, USN. 502 00:24:02,026 --> 00:24:05,409 "Consider them and all events of nature above Secret." 503 00:24:05,444 --> 00:24:09,344 C class ARH-9, Project Blue Sky, 504 00:24:09,378 --> 00:24:12,071 Oscar Schneider, Captain U.S.N. 505 00:24:12,105 --> 00:24:14,901 - [Narrator] At this point, it appears that Phil Schneider's 506 00:24:14,936 --> 00:24:18,111 father, Oscar, was very likely involved 507 00:24:18,146 --> 00:24:20,666 in classified operations that involve 508 00:24:20,700 --> 00:24:22,668 top secret technologies. 509 00:24:22,702 --> 00:24:24,635 But what about his son, Phil? 510 00:24:24,670 --> 00:24:27,189 What do we really know about his work? 511 00:24:27,224 --> 00:24:32,229 - [Cynthia] I will say late sixties, he started his work 512 00:24:33,333 --> 00:24:35,853 and that I have social security records 513 00:24:35,888 --> 00:24:38,511 under a wrong social security number 514 00:24:38,546 --> 00:24:41,480 and I think since is how the black cops get away 515 00:24:41,514 --> 00:24:42,964 with a lot of things, 516 00:24:42,998 --> 00:24:45,898 'cause they put you under the wrong social security number 517 00:24:45,932 --> 00:24:49,384 so you can't prove your work history and stuff, 518 00:24:49,418 --> 00:24:53,043 but I can prove that under the wrong social security number 519 00:24:53,077 --> 00:24:57,047 he worked for Morrison Knudsen, which is a contractor, 520 00:24:57,081 --> 00:25:02,086 so civilian contractor that worked for the army or the Navy. 521 00:25:03,467 --> 00:25:06,228 He did some work at Trojan Nuclear after that. 522 00:25:06,263 --> 00:25:10,543 By the early 1980s, he was applying for SSI, 523 00:25:10,578 --> 00:25:14,823 so I know by the early 1980s, his career is done. 524 00:25:14,858 --> 00:25:16,411 He's still injured 525 00:25:16,445 --> 00:25:20,588 that he cannot do any more work and his memory 526 00:25:20,622 --> 00:25:23,729 is totally lost as to what he did before. 527 00:25:23,763 --> 00:25:26,386 It wasn't till after we got married 528 00:25:26,421 --> 00:25:27,974 and he got good medical care 529 00:25:28,009 --> 00:25:30,425 and stopped taking the medications 530 00:25:30,459 --> 00:25:32,634 he was taking when I first met him 531 00:25:32,669 --> 00:25:35,741 that he's started to remember all of the things 532 00:25:35,775 --> 00:25:38,191 that are now on the internet. 533 00:25:40,884 --> 00:25:42,023 - [Cynthia] Hello Marie. 534 00:25:42,057 --> 00:25:42,886 - Hi. 535 00:25:44,232 --> 00:25:45,509 - Want a Spark? 536 00:25:52,481 --> 00:25:54,932 - [Cynthia] Lots of food and soft drinks. 537 00:25:54,967 --> 00:25:56,244 - There you go. 538 00:25:57,694 --> 00:26:01,594 - [Darcy] So, tell me, when did Phil start telling you 539 00:26:01,629 --> 00:26:04,666 about his past and his work? 540 00:26:04,701 --> 00:26:08,636 - It was soon after he kept saying that he had 541 00:26:08,670 --> 00:26:11,639 to take [indistinct] to prevent seizures. 542 00:26:11,673 --> 00:26:14,400 But I noticed when he took [indistinct], 543 00:26:14,434 --> 00:26:15,712 he would have a seizure [laughing]. 544 00:26:15,746 --> 00:26:16,644 it was the other way round, 545 00:26:16,678 --> 00:26:18,818 it was actually killing him. 546 00:26:18,853 --> 00:26:22,304 And it was disrupting him mostly physically, 547 00:26:22,339 --> 00:26:25,376 so much that he didn't have much of a memory 548 00:26:25,411 --> 00:26:27,068 of anything in his past. 549 00:26:27,102 --> 00:26:28,448 And then after we were married, 550 00:26:28,483 --> 00:26:30,830 he got really good medical care, 551 00:26:30,865 --> 00:26:32,798 it slowly started to come back. 552 00:26:32,832 --> 00:26:35,386 I mean, it was like, he would even say to me, 553 00:26:35,421 --> 00:26:37,872 "Tia, I hope you don't take like I'm lying 554 00:26:37,906 --> 00:26:39,667 because I'm just remembering this. 555 00:26:39,701 --> 00:26:43,084 But wow, these things start coming out 556 00:26:43,118 --> 00:26:47,536 and I just suddenly remember what's really happened." 557 00:26:47,571 --> 00:26:49,090 But that's really when it started. 558 00:26:49,124 --> 00:26:52,334 When Oscar died, it might've been '94, 559 00:26:52,369 --> 00:26:56,994 so I put down into his basement, found the file cabinet 560 00:26:57,029 --> 00:27:00,929 full of stuff that was just unbelievable. 561 00:27:00,964 --> 00:27:02,724 And he showed me most of them. 562 00:27:02,759 --> 00:27:06,176 I mean, I saw the original envelopes 563 00:27:06,210 --> 00:27:10,042 with original paperwork that had the drawings on it. 564 00:27:10,076 --> 00:27:14,080 I saw the original photographs with the stamp from the back 565 00:27:14,115 --> 00:27:15,668 from the Navy. 566 00:27:15,703 --> 00:27:19,914 I mean, it wasn't all real stuff, this was not faked. 567 00:27:19,948 --> 00:27:21,294 He shared so much with me 568 00:27:21,329 --> 00:27:24,194 though we were divorce at the time. 569 00:27:24,228 --> 00:27:27,128 So I saw all this stuff that came out of the file cabinet, 570 00:27:28,336 --> 00:27:32,064 but he'd been talking to Ron about it a lot. 571 00:27:32,098 --> 00:27:36,516 Thy were doing a little alien fantasy, a little digest, 572 00:27:36,551 --> 00:27:38,760 and then his dad died and he found all the stuff 573 00:27:38,795 --> 00:27:39,899 in the basement. 574 00:27:39,934 --> 00:27:43,420 Well, Ron was murdered that same year 575 00:27:43,454 --> 00:27:46,078 and that infuriated. 576 00:27:46,112 --> 00:27:50,220 As Phillip grew up, he went to Lincoln High School 577 00:27:50,254 --> 00:27:54,880 here in Portland 'cause I have a transcript of his 578 00:27:54,914 --> 00:27:56,398 Senior High School. 579 00:27:56,433 --> 00:27:57,606 So that was pretty normal except it does indicate 580 00:27:57,641 --> 00:28:02,335 on that transcript that he had an IQ of 163. 581 00:28:03,682 --> 00:28:07,513 Now, I know Phil told me that before he had his 582 00:28:07,547 --> 00:28:11,172 medical issues, he could speak 11 languages. 583 00:28:11,206 --> 00:28:14,071 And I believed that because he would suddenly, 584 00:28:14,106 --> 00:28:16,349 in the middle of the night, we were sleeping together, 585 00:28:16,384 --> 00:28:20,699 he suddenly start rambling off different languages. 586 00:28:20,733 --> 00:28:23,253 So this was although, in his sleep, 587 00:28:23,287 --> 00:28:26,601 he consciously couldn't remember 588 00:28:26,635 --> 00:28:30,398 how to speak those languages, but in asleep unconsciously, 589 00:28:30,432 --> 00:28:32,745 he could still connect with some. 590 00:28:33,815 --> 00:28:36,162 [laughing] 591 00:28:36,197 --> 00:28:37,646 - So this is the new one. 592 00:28:37,681 --> 00:28:39,407 Looking good. 593 00:28:39,441 --> 00:28:43,100 Now, down side to the left, you can see two big clowns. 594 00:28:43,135 --> 00:28:44,170 [laughing] 595 00:28:44,205 --> 00:28:44,999 [TV buzzing] 596 00:28:45,033 --> 00:28:46,655 [bright music] 597 00:28:46,690 --> 00:28:47,691 [TV buzzing] 598 00:28:47,726 --> 00:28:49,797 [chattering] 599 00:28:49,831 --> 00:28:50,659 - [Cynthia] Phillip. 600 00:28:50,694 --> 00:28:51,522 - Yeah. 601 00:28:52,661 --> 00:28:54,353 - [Kid] I can find you, I gotcha. 602 00:28:54,387 --> 00:28:55,216 [mimicing a roar] 603 00:28:55,250 --> 00:28:56,079 - Nothing. 604 00:28:59,876 --> 00:29:04,156 - First of all, the idea of underground [indistinct] 605 00:29:04,190 --> 00:29:06,399 and underground civilizations, 606 00:29:07,815 --> 00:29:11,301 actually, this is a very old idea in human history. 607 00:29:11,335 --> 00:29:14,097 Going back in thousands of years you've got 608 00:29:14,131 --> 00:29:16,133 ancient prides around the world, 609 00:29:17,272 --> 00:29:20,551 that have made these claims that we would say 610 00:29:20,586 --> 00:29:25,280 is in their myths, but that there are secret caverns, 611 00:29:25,315 --> 00:29:30,320 secret races, secret tribes that exist under the ground. 612 00:29:31,700 --> 00:29:34,082 And really when one talks about, for example, 613 00:29:34,117 --> 00:29:35,981 Hollow Earth theory, that's a lot 614 00:29:36,015 --> 00:29:38,328 of what we're talking about here. 615 00:29:38,362 --> 00:29:43,057 Not all Hollow Earth theorists say that the earth is hollow. 616 00:29:43,091 --> 00:29:46,681 A lot of them will say that there are just substantial 617 00:29:46,715 --> 00:29:48,648 cartons under the ground where 618 00:29:49,788 --> 00:29:52,687 there are civilizations that are down here. 619 00:29:52,721 --> 00:29:54,102 So that's an old idea, 620 00:29:54,137 --> 00:29:57,450 you get it in a lot of Asian European, 621 00:29:57,485 --> 00:29:59,728 I think like the Germans have a tradition, 622 00:29:59,763 --> 00:30:01,834 and native Americans have this tradition. 623 00:30:01,869 --> 00:30:05,631 The Tibetans may have the most extensive tradition 624 00:30:05,665 --> 00:30:06,908 of this for all I know. 625 00:30:08,358 --> 00:30:11,430 South America traditional tribes had this as well. 626 00:30:11,464 --> 00:30:14,260 So the idea in the Tibetans mission, 627 00:30:14,295 --> 00:30:16,987 from what I had understood about it 628 00:30:17,022 --> 00:30:20,749 is that there are different races below 629 00:30:20,784 --> 00:30:24,443 the surface of the earth, including reptoid 630 00:30:24,477 --> 00:30:28,550 or [indistinct] races that are supposedly from other worlds, 631 00:30:29,586 --> 00:30:30,898 I'm not making this up. 632 00:30:30,932 --> 00:30:34,729 So that by itself is interesting and you might ask, 633 00:30:34,763 --> 00:30:39,768 why do all of these disparate civilizations had 634 00:30:40,769 --> 00:30:41,943 these types of ideas? 635 00:30:41,978 --> 00:30:43,876 And I don't have the answer to that, 636 00:30:43,911 --> 00:30:47,121 but I can tell, that's an old, old idea. 637 00:30:47,155 --> 00:30:48,812 - [Narrator] Dolan goes on to explain 638 00:30:48,847 --> 00:30:52,126 the supposed connection between the Nazis 639 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,025 and Tibetan Hollow Earth theories. 640 00:30:55,060 --> 00:30:57,856 - And we really get into the 20th century 641 00:30:57,890 --> 00:31:00,962 where the Nazis and their predecessors, 642 00:31:00,997 --> 00:31:03,102 we just call them Thule Society, 643 00:31:03,137 --> 00:31:08,142 which was a of a mystical set that the Nazis 644 00:31:09,591 --> 00:31:12,801 really drew a lot out of in forming our own ideology. 645 00:31:14,251 --> 00:31:18,566 The Thule Society was very interested in Tibet nets, 646 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,499 about openings into the earth, 647 00:31:20,533 --> 00:31:25,538 This idea of the underground tunnels, 648 00:31:26,401 --> 00:31:29,163 aces, crisscrossing the world 649 00:31:30,267 --> 00:31:32,891 and so this was a Tibetan idea. 650 00:31:34,375 --> 00:31:37,688 We have to assume that the Nazis themselves 651 00:31:37,723 --> 00:31:39,794 were familiar with this idea as well. 652 00:31:40,968 --> 00:31:42,728 - [Richard] There's no question that the secret 653 00:31:42,762 --> 00:31:46,076 underground base do exist and by the way, 654 00:31:46,111 --> 00:31:49,217 it's not only the military of the United States 655 00:31:49,252 --> 00:31:52,945 or of other countries, who are making things underground 656 00:31:52,980 --> 00:31:55,292 and also under sea facilities, 657 00:31:55,327 --> 00:31:58,088 other agencies and organizations do it as well. 658 00:31:58,123 --> 00:32:02,265 All that is needed is a requisite well funded, 659 00:32:02,299 --> 00:32:04,750 expert personnel and technology. 660 00:32:04,784 --> 00:32:07,787 In the early to mid 20th century, 661 00:32:07,822 --> 00:32:09,686 you had the French, of course, 662 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,482 who constructed the so called Marginot Line 663 00:32:12,516 --> 00:32:16,382 in Eastern France to guard against German invasion 664 00:32:16,417 --> 00:32:17,452 in World War II. 665 00:32:18,660 --> 00:32:22,319 It was a military civil engineering organization 666 00:32:22,354 --> 00:32:26,289 in the third Reich called the Todt organization 667 00:32:26,323 --> 00:32:28,636 and it was named after Fritz Todt. 668 00:32:29,948 --> 00:32:32,122 Fritz Todt was a brilliant civil engineer, 669 00:32:32,157 --> 00:32:35,505 he was the father of the German Autobahn system. 670 00:32:35,539 --> 00:32:38,370 During the world war II period, Adolf Hitler 671 00:32:38,404 --> 00:32:42,270 asked Fritz Todt to lend his engineering expertise 672 00:32:42,305 --> 00:32:45,653 to the military program of the Third Reich, 673 00:32:45,687 --> 00:32:46,550 which he did. 674 00:32:47,689 --> 00:32:49,968 He established an engineering agency, 675 00:32:50,002 --> 00:32:52,315 which was called the Todt Organization. 676 00:32:52,349 --> 00:32:57,320 Now, Fritz Todt died in a [indistinct] crash in 1942. 677 00:32:58,459 --> 00:33:02,670 And one of his deputies named Xaver Dorsch 678 00:33:02,704 --> 00:33:04,706 took over control of the agency, 679 00:33:04,741 --> 00:33:09,711 identified a couple of project Paperclip memos from 1947 680 00:33:11,058 --> 00:33:14,233 that specifically requested Xaver Dorsch, by name, 681 00:33:14,268 --> 00:33:16,477 to be brought to the United States to work 682 00:33:16,511 --> 00:33:18,997 on the United States military's 683 00:33:19,031 --> 00:33:22,034 underground plant construction program. 684 00:33:22,069 --> 00:33:24,899 The American military certainly was well aware 685 00:33:24,933 --> 00:33:27,902 of who Xaver Dorsch was and his expertise. 686 00:33:27,936 --> 00:33:31,492 In his day, he was probably the preop like authority 687 00:33:31,526 --> 00:33:34,391 on underground based construction, 688 00:33:34,426 --> 00:33:37,256 whether in Germany or in the United States. 689 00:33:38,085 --> 00:33:39,224 [TV buzzing] 690 00:33:39,258 --> 00:33:41,191 - Ruins have been uncovered in Argentina, 691 00:33:41,226 --> 00:33:43,400 but they're not from an ancient civilization. 692 00:33:43,435 --> 00:33:46,231 They're reportedly connected with the Nazi regime. 693 00:33:46,265 --> 00:33:48,819 According to an article in the New Zealand Herald, 694 00:33:48,854 --> 00:33:51,236 a secret bunker was found, which appears 695 00:33:51,270 --> 00:33:54,377 to have been planned for members of the Nazi party 696 00:33:54,411 --> 00:33:57,276 to use a hideout after losing the war 697 00:33:57,311 --> 00:33:59,278 and fleeing to South America. 698 00:33:59,313 --> 00:34:01,108 - [Richard] But I had people tell me 699 00:34:01,142 --> 00:34:06,113 that some of the bases are as deep as 10, 12, 14 miles down. 700 00:34:07,252 --> 00:34:08,494 - [Darcy] Okay, so they're one mile deep, 701 00:34:08,529 --> 00:34:09,737 how would they make that? 702 00:34:09,771 --> 00:34:13,430 Like you'd say possibly a piece of technology 703 00:34:13,465 --> 00:34:18,090 that you came across in documents you were researching or? 704 00:34:18,125 --> 00:34:19,781 - [Richard] Oh yes, oh yes. 705 00:34:19,816 --> 00:34:23,302 60s, that's at least the 1950s, 706 00:34:23,337 --> 00:34:26,788 the mining and civil engineering industries 707 00:34:26,823 --> 00:34:30,896 had that capability to sink a major shaft 708 00:34:30,930 --> 00:34:34,382 straight down one, even two miles or more 709 00:34:34,417 --> 00:34:37,592 and then to top out from the bottom of the shaft, 710 00:34:37,627 --> 00:34:42,632 whether for mine purposes or for anchoring tall complexes. 711 00:34:44,047 --> 00:34:46,774 Well, the most common form is to use a very hard 712 00:34:46,808 --> 00:34:50,329 cutting heads of a tone of wide machines that rotate 713 00:34:50,364 --> 00:34:53,505 would be like a huge version of the drills. 714 00:34:53,539 --> 00:34:55,127 You could just hit the petroleum industry 715 00:34:55,162 --> 00:34:56,577 and natural gas industry 716 00:34:56,611 --> 00:34:59,925 to drill very deep underground boreholes. 717 00:34:59,959 --> 00:35:02,307 - [Darcy] I heard theories of also 718 00:35:02,341 --> 00:35:04,688 mutual power drills? 719 00:35:04,723 --> 00:35:07,105 - [Richard] Yes, I cited this technology, 720 00:35:07,139 --> 00:35:10,177 my first book, these are called subterranean. 721 00:35:10,211 --> 00:35:11,799 Subterraneans are nuclear powered, 722 00:35:11,833 --> 00:35:15,527 they use a small fishing nuclear reactor. 723 00:35:15,561 --> 00:35:19,047 The nuclear reactor is staying within the machine, 724 00:35:19,082 --> 00:35:21,533 the research and design was done at 725 00:35:21,567 --> 00:35:25,157 [indistinct] National Laboratories back in the 20th century. 726 00:35:25,192 --> 00:35:28,574 And there were some patterns granted to the research team, 727 00:35:28,609 --> 00:35:30,714 Los Alamos if they audit and use, 728 00:35:30,749 --> 00:35:35,650 they are being used, planned destinely in great secrecy. 729 00:35:35,685 --> 00:35:38,929 - [Darcy] Could you also, I mean lense 730 00:35:38,964 --> 00:35:42,795 to the audience, some examples of 731 00:35:42,830 --> 00:35:45,177 real underground facilities. 732 00:35:45,212 --> 00:35:47,110 - [Richard] The most famous one would be 733 00:35:47,145 --> 00:35:49,595 under Cheyenne mountain in Colorado, 734 00:35:49,630 --> 00:35:52,184 which used to be [indistinct] the headquarters, 735 00:35:52,219 --> 00:35:54,704 Now it's a backup [indistinct] base, 736 00:35:54,738 --> 00:35:56,706 but that'd be the famous one 737 00:35:56,740 --> 00:35:59,467 I guess it's appeared in many movies, 738 00:35:59,502 --> 00:36:03,022 it's large, it's sophisticated, it's deep. 739 00:36:03,057 --> 00:36:07,095 Then you also have the famoous FEMA underground base 740 00:36:07,130 --> 00:36:09,650 BD Mountain Weather in Northern Virginia. 741 00:36:09,684 --> 00:36:13,136 It's run by FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency. 742 00:36:13,171 --> 00:36:16,346 It's also quite deep, sophisticated, large 743 00:36:16,381 --> 00:36:20,143 this is also called site-R complex. 744 00:36:20,178 --> 00:36:22,973 That is the [indistinct] alternate command center, 745 00:36:23,008 --> 00:36:26,011 which is underground on the border between 746 00:36:26,045 --> 00:36:27,978 Maryland and Pennsylvania. 747 00:36:28,013 --> 00:36:31,982 Then of course you have the well known A51 facility, 748 00:36:32,017 --> 00:36:33,915 there's been quite a lot of underground 749 00:36:33,950 --> 00:36:36,159 tumbling excavation, done there. 750 00:36:36,194 --> 00:36:39,162 Many people have spoken about facilities out there. 751 00:36:39,197 --> 00:36:40,232 [TV buzzing] 752 00:36:40,267 --> 00:36:41,647 - Yes, sir. - Let's go back in there 753 00:36:41,682 --> 00:36:43,408 the so called area A51 because 754 00:36:43,442 --> 00:36:46,065 in people's minds, would you say I can't talk about it 755 00:36:46,100 --> 00:36:48,171 because it's classified? conjures up. 756 00:36:48,206 --> 00:36:50,346 Oh, there it is, there's the coverup. 757 00:36:50,380 --> 00:36:51,968 Can you give us any hint 758 00:36:52,002 --> 00:36:55,730 without violating any sense of a confidential nature? 759 00:36:55,765 --> 00:36:58,595 What kinds of things might be happening? 760 00:36:58,630 --> 00:37:00,321 - Sir, I cannot forgive me, I just do not know. 761 00:37:00,356 --> 00:37:03,393 - [Reporter] Is there anyone in the air force, that can? 762 00:37:03,428 --> 00:37:05,947 - I'm gonna have to defer that to public affairs. 763 00:37:05,982 --> 00:37:07,915 It's outside of my area of expertise. 764 00:37:07,949 --> 00:37:09,951 [TV buzzing] - Do you believe in UFO's? 765 00:37:09,986 --> 00:37:11,470 - [Reporter] First window sir. 766 00:37:11,505 --> 00:37:13,231 - [Reporter] Why not? 767 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,924 - Ma'am, I have no reason to believe that they're real. 768 00:37:18,305 --> 00:37:20,376 - And then there are other ones that are perhaps 769 00:37:20,410 --> 00:37:24,621 less well known to the NSA and Laurel, Maryland, 770 00:37:24,656 --> 00:37:28,487 which is at Fort Meade, Fort Meade is an Army facility, 771 00:37:28,522 --> 00:37:32,422 but to NSA is actually the major activity there. 772 00:37:32,457 --> 00:37:36,875 And there are little acres, multiple acres 773 00:37:36,909 --> 00:37:39,705 of supercomputers beneath fort B 774 00:37:39,740 --> 00:37:41,638 that go down and down and down. 775 00:37:41,673 --> 00:37:44,296 I'm even told 20 levels, maybe more. 776 00:37:44,331 --> 00:37:47,886 And then, Los Alamos National Lab in Northern New Mexico. 777 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,165 Then you have, Camp David in Maryland 778 00:37:51,199 --> 00:37:53,340 and many people are familiar with Camp David, 779 00:37:53,374 --> 00:37:57,309 as United States, presidential retreat with the presence 780 00:37:57,344 --> 00:38:01,486 of an helicopter too for rest and relaxation. 781 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,660 But [indistinct] say 782 00:38:03,695 --> 00:38:06,456 there is a massive underground facility that 783 00:38:06,491 --> 00:38:09,217 spreads out for miles and the run up 784 00:38:09,252 --> 00:38:12,324 to the first board against the Iraq Bechtel 785 00:38:12,359 --> 00:38:15,810 built three deeply [indistinct], sophisticated 786 00:38:15,845 --> 00:38:18,261 underground facilities in Saudi Arabia. 787 00:38:18,296 --> 00:38:20,263 They were years during the war [indistinct], 788 00:38:20,298 --> 00:38:23,542 the first war storming, Norman Schwarzkopf, 789 00:38:23,577 --> 00:38:26,373 who was the American military commander. 790 00:38:26,407 --> 00:38:30,031 Despite, most of that were underground at Saudi Arabia 791 00:38:30,066 --> 00:38:31,550 and the Chinese, it has come to light 792 00:38:31,585 --> 00:38:34,519 that the Chinese have constructed something like 793 00:38:34,553 --> 00:38:37,487 3000 miles of underground tiles 794 00:38:37,522 --> 00:38:39,524 to house their nuclear arsenal. 795 00:38:39,558 --> 00:38:42,043 - [Darcy] What is, what's the benefit of building 796 00:38:43,251 --> 00:38:45,219 all of these bases in and around the world? 797 00:38:45,253 --> 00:38:46,151 What is it for? 798 00:38:46,185 --> 00:38:49,741 Is it for, keeping things secret 799 00:38:49,775 --> 00:38:51,846 and what are they keeping secret? 800 00:38:51,881 --> 00:38:54,539 Is it for keeping things away from the public? 801 00:38:54,573 --> 00:38:56,886 Is it also for protection in some way? 802 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,405 Could you elaborate on that? 803 00:38:58,439 --> 00:38:59,716 - [Richard] Yes, to all of that, 804 00:38:59,751 --> 00:39:01,753 all of those are considerations. 805 00:39:01,787 --> 00:39:04,514 The motivation for going deep, underground 806 00:39:04,549 --> 00:39:06,413 and or deep under sea 807 00:39:06,447 --> 00:39:11,072 is often driven by concerns of security and secrecy, 808 00:39:11,107 --> 00:39:14,593 weapons production, and storage happens underground, 809 00:39:14,628 --> 00:39:16,733 whether for nuclear weapons or other kinds 810 00:39:16,768 --> 00:39:20,392 this has been going on ever since the world war II period. 811 00:39:20,427 --> 00:39:21,220 [TV buzzing] 812 00:39:21,255 --> 00:39:23,119 [man troop commanding] 813 00:39:23,153 --> 00:39:24,741 - [Narrator] It looks almost like a scene 814 00:39:24,776 --> 00:39:26,191 from an action movie, 815 00:39:26,225 --> 00:39:28,469 dozens of ballistic missile, launching systems 816 00:39:28,504 --> 00:39:31,299 inside a gigantic cave. 817 00:39:31,334 --> 00:39:33,716 But the video shows Iran's missile program 818 00:39:33,750 --> 00:39:37,236 is very real and very big as the head of 819 00:39:37,271 --> 00:39:41,068 the elite revolutionary guards aerospace division says, 820 00:39:41,102 --> 00:39:44,382 "The missiles and various ranges are mounted on launchers 821 00:39:44,416 --> 00:39:47,074 "in all bases and are ready to be launched." 822 00:39:47,108 --> 00:39:49,179 He told an Iranian state TV reporter 823 00:39:49,214 --> 00:39:52,044 and added that is if enemies make a mistake. 824 00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:53,460 [Tv buzzing] 825 00:39:53,494 --> 00:39:56,773 - You also have scientific research facilities underground. 826 00:39:56,808 --> 00:39:58,706 The CERN supercollider 827 00:39:58,741 --> 00:40:01,053 on the border of Switzerland and France would be 828 00:40:01,088 --> 00:40:04,332 a good example that one is very much publicly known 829 00:40:04,367 --> 00:40:06,369 and discussed, there are other 830 00:40:06,404 --> 00:40:08,475 undergraduate research facilities, 831 00:40:08,509 --> 00:40:11,029 including that Area 51 and elsewhere 832 00:40:11,063 --> 00:40:15,205 that operate much more out of the public eye. 833 00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:16,586 There are many rumors 834 00:40:16,621 --> 00:40:20,176 about clandestine extraterrestrial facilitates 835 00:40:20,210 --> 00:40:22,350 both underground and under sea, 836 00:40:22,385 --> 00:40:24,698 and a growing number of people have come 837 00:40:24,732 --> 00:40:28,495 forward over the years with anecdotal accounts 838 00:40:28,529 --> 00:40:30,738 of having seen and, or been taken 839 00:40:30,773 --> 00:40:34,259 into such facilities by a variety of reasons, 840 00:40:34,293 --> 00:40:38,505 both by extraterrestrials and also by shadow elements 841 00:40:38,539 --> 00:40:42,094 of the United States military by clandestine units, 842 00:40:42,129 --> 00:40:44,338 I do take these stories seriously, 843 00:40:44,372 --> 00:40:48,618 I do believe that these types of Philips facilities exist. 844 00:40:48,653 --> 00:40:50,724 What are the main reasons that they would be here 845 00:40:50,758 --> 00:40:54,624 and underground again for secrecy, for security 846 00:40:54,659 --> 00:40:57,247 and for purposes of communication, 847 00:40:57,282 --> 00:40:59,146 command and control. 848 00:40:59,180 --> 00:41:01,424 The same reasons that the United States military 849 00:41:01,459 --> 00:41:03,461 builds underground bases. 850 00:41:03,495 --> 00:41:06,464 - [Narrator] Secrecy, how corporations and military 851 00:41:06,498 --> 00:41:08,051 rule the underworld. 852 00:41:08,086 --> 00:41:09,812 - [Richard] I spent years going through 853 00:41:09,846 --> 00:41:12,400 aims of a technical documentation, 854 00:41:12,435 --> 00:41:14,126 military industrial complex 855 00:41:14,161 --> 00:41:16,335 and Morrison-Knudsev is one of those 856 00:41:16,370 --> 00:41:19,097 that would pop up in the bibliographies, 857 00:41:19,131 --> 00:41:22,307 companies like Parsons I got off quite a dockless 858 00:41:23,411 --> 00:41:24,861 Kiewit, Black $ Veacth, of course you have 859 00:41:24,896 --> 00:41:28,693 two military agencies, the Army Corps of Engineers, 860 00:41:28,727 --> 00:41:31,765 which is definitely involved in constructing 861 00:41:31,799 --> 00:41:33,767 underground bases and tunnels. 862 00:41:33,801 --> 00:41:36,355 It has been for more than half a century. 863 00:41:36,390 --> 00:41:39,393 You also have the US Navy Seabees 864 00:41:39,427 --> 00:41:43,915 who also work in underground and under sea construction. 865 00:41:43,949 --> 00:41:47,574 And those would be the leap to the lead military agencies. 866 00:41:47,608 --> 00:41:51,301 But there are large corporations that are involved. 867 00:41:51,336 --> 00:41:53,234 The Bechtel Corporation is one 868 00:41:53,269 --> 00:41:56,272 then you have the tunnel boring machine companies, 869 00:41:56,306 --> 00:41:57,929 such as the Robbins company, 870 00:41:57,963 --> 00:42:00,932 a number of these companies, which for decades, 871 00:42:00,966 --> 00:42:04,038 have worked very closely with not only 872 00:42:04,073 --> 00:42:08,353 the United States military agencies, but also other agencies 873 00:42:08,387 --> 00:42:11,805 in construction of underground facilities and tunnels. 874 00:42:11,839 --> 00:42:14,186 These are massive undertakings. 875 00:42:14,221 --> 00:42:18,466 And to do that, you need to have large organizations 876 00:42:18,501 --> 00:42:20,883 with the bureaucratic and administrative structure, 877 00:42:20,917 --> 00:42:24,438 that's capable of supporting projects like this. 878 00:42:24,472 --> 00:42:27,579 You won't easily find this stuff on the internet. 879 00:42:27,614 --> 00:42:28,546 I've found these documents by going 880 00:42:28,580 --> 00:42:32,342 to Federal Document Repositories 881 00:42:32,377 --> 00:42:36,139 at major university libraries in the United States, 882 00:42:36,174 --> 00:42:39,418 and also to Federal Agency Document Repositories. 883 00:42:39,453 --> 00:42:40,868 With these corporations, 884 00:42:40,903 --> 00:42:44,700 it's like a shell game and it's harder and harder 885 00:42:44,734 --> 00:42:47,979 to find out who is working for whom 886 00:42:48,013 --> 00:42:52,362 and what they're doing and under what conditions. 887 00:42:52,397 --> 00:42:53,881 The so-called [indistinct], 888 00:42:55,331 --> 00:42:59,507 is now owned by something called URS as of 2007. 889 00:43:01,026 --> 00:43:04,064 So you see it makes it hard to follow what they're doing 890 00:43:04,098 --> 00:43:08,033 and to follow the money and the contracts, 891 00:43:08,068 --> 00:43:11,209 because the names and the corporate alliances 892 00:43:11,243 --> 00:43:14,661 are constantly changing at a state of [indistinct] 893 00:43:14,695 --> 00:43:15,834 very high level. 894 00:43:15,869 --> 00:43:19,251 - No, these megabases are gobbling up 895 00:43:19,286 --> 00:43:20,736 our gross national product. 896 00:43:20,770 --> 00:43:23,773 Right now we're spending 28% of the gross national product 897 00:43:23,808 --> 00:43:27,121 on building underground bases solely. 898 00:43:28,744 --> 00:43:30,538 That doesn't count for the defense budget, 899 00:43:30,573 --> 00:43:33,611 that doesn't count for the spare parts budget 900 00:43:33,645 --> 00:43:37,545 and the black budget is dead, dead wrong. 901 00:43:37,580 --> 00:43:40,618 It sidesteps the United States Congress 902 00:43:40,652 --> 00:43:43,068 and its constitution of its people and says, 903 00:43:43,103 --> 00:43:46,624 "You're a bunch of morons, you don't need to know." 904 00:43:46,658 --> 00:43:51,629 Now all this alien thing is fine, except for one thing, 905 00:43:52,768 --> 00:43:54,804 the alien takeover is a serious threat, 906 00:43:57,048 --> 00:44:01,604 kept totally out of the public view, off the surface, 907 00:44:01,639 --> 00:44:05,746 I'm sure the underground bases without question, 908 00:44:07,127 --> 00:44:11,925 are being used as form a place to house alien takeover. 909 00:44:11,959 --> 00:44:14,859 Alien takeover means the implementation 910 00:44:14,893 --> 00:44:16,619 of a one-world government, 911 00:44:16,654 --> 00:44:20,692 direct opposite of constitutional law, 912 00:44:20,727 --> 00:44:23,626 direct opposite of freedom of choice, 913 00:44:23,661 --> 00:44:28,044 freedom of religion, and other freedoms that go with it, 914 00:44:29,977 --> 00:44:31,323 right to bear arms. 915 00:44:32,497 --> 00:44:35,845 If we allow another election to go by 916 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,296 with the same ilk in the white house, 917 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,644 we have only ourselves to blame. 918 00:44:45,027 --> 00:44:46,753 - [Richard] All questions that arise is 919 00:44:46,787 --> 00:44:50,688 whether or not there is the legendary, 920 00:44:50,722 --> 00:44:52,241 much talk about a deal 921 00:44:52,275 --> 00:44:54,519 between given government groups 922 00:44:54,553 --> 00:44:57,004 and non-humans, the human alien deal. 923 00:44:57,039 --> 00:44:59,731 You know, all I can say is quite is that 924 00:44:59,766 --> 00:45:01,112 anything is possible, 925 00:45:01,146 --> 00:45:02,561 I do believe that there are 926 00:45:02,596 --> 00:45:04,632 a number of other beings that are here. 927 00:45:04,667 --> 00:45:06,082 So if that is possible, 928 00:45:06,117 --> 00:45:08,464 isn't impossible as such a deal of that or more. 929 00:45:08,498 --> 00:45:10,673 For example, what would the deal have included? 930 00:45:10,708 --> 00:45:11,881 It could have included, 931 00:45:11,916 --> 00:45:15,747 we humans getting certain technologies 932 00:45:15,782 --> 00:45:17,715 and knowledge from them 933 00:45:17,749 --> 00:45:20,890 in exchange for them having 934 00:45:20,925 --> 00:45:23,341 the ability to do certain things in our society, 935 00:45:23,375 --> 00:45:25,412 without us giving them us them housing for, 936 00:45:25,446 --> 00:45:27,621 for them having a permanent base somewhere, 937 00:45:27,655 --> 00:45:31,452 maybe in Nevada or for them every now and then 938 00:45:31,487 --> 00:45:33,420 taking a human being to examine them 939 00:45:33,454 --> 00:45:34,870 and then returning them. 940 00:45:34,904 --> 00:45:38,494 This is the claim of the human alien deal 941 00:45:38,528 --> 00:45:40,876 and claim furthermore is that 942 00:45:40,910 --> 00:45:44,155 we learned during the seventies and eighties, 943 00:45:44,189 --> 00:45:48,055 that they were not abiding by their agreement 944 00:45:48,090 --> 00:45:51,438 that they were taking humans, not telling us, 945 00:45:51,472 --> 00:45:53,958 not telling even the government and so forth. 946 00:45:53,992 --> 00:45:56,961 [indistinct] I have any ideas this is true or not, 947 00:45:56,995 --> 00:45:57,789 I have no idea. 948 00:45:57,824 --> 00:45:59,860 What I would say is that 949 00:46:01,206 --> 00:46:04,554 it would very much be in the interest 950 00:46:04,589 --> 00:46:07,799 of a visiting race to make a deal, 951 00:46:07,834 --> 00:46:10,388 with the US government, why not? 952 00:46:10,422 --> 00:46:12,217 Sure they might be able to wipe us out 953 00:46:12,252 --> 00:46:13,701 if they felt like it, 954 00:46:13,736 --> 00:46:15,773 but maybe that's too much of a hassle for them. 955 00:46:15,807 --> 00:46:18,879 Maybe it's just a lot easier to deal with the local 956 00:46:18,914 --> 00:46:20,329 government panel. 957 00:46:20,363 --> 00:46:22,331 And so it would make sense 958 00:46:22,365 --> 00:46:26,887 to make an arrangement with the local storms, strongman, 959 00:46:26,922 --> 00:46:29,407 which would be the US military and US government 960 00:46:29,441 --> 00:46:30,788 and if you really want to get 961 00:46:30,822 --> 00:46:33,860 some terranean here, so to speak, 962 00:46:33,894 --> 00:46:35,516 there would be a lot of [indistinct] 963 00:46:35,551 --> 00:46:38,519 from a visiting race of extraterrestrials 964 00:46:38,554 --> 00:46:42,834 to exploit earth and humanity to max. 965 00:46:42,869 --> 00:46:44,698 You know, a lot of folks in this field believe 966 00:46:44,732 --> 00:46:48,322 that any visiting ET rates would be by their nature 967 00:46:48,357 --> 00:46:52,292 be peaceful and non-violent, I never agreed with this, 968 00:46:52,326 --> 00:46:54,535 I don't understand at all why 969 00:46:54,570 --> 00:46:55,743 just because you have better technology 970 00:46:55,778 --> 00:46:57,849 then that means you're nicer. 971 00:46:57,884 --> 00:46:59,402 You could be just as exploitative, 972 00:46:59,437 --> 00:47:00,852 look at human history. 973 00:47:00,887 --> 00:47:03,234 we've got great technology these days, 974 00:47:03,268 --> 00:47:05,753 it doesn't mean we're any less exploitative 975 00:47:05,788 --> 00:47:06,962 than people who were financing years ago. 976 00:47:06,996 --> 00:47:09,102 Well, look, if you come from someplace, 977 00:47:09,136 --> 00:47:12,553 that's not here really makes sense, doesn't it? 978 00:47:12,588 --> 00:47:16,350 To create a secure environment for yourself, 979 00:47:16,385 --> 00:47:19,837 probably under the ground, it's the best place to be. 980 00:47:19,871 --> 00:47:22,184 All the features of planet earth 981 00:47:22,218 --> 00:47:24,186 are suitable for human beings. 982 00:47:24,220 --> 00:47:25,946 They may not be as suitable 983 00:47:25,981 --> 00:47:28,121 for some other type of species that 984 00:47:28,155 --> 00:47:29,363 didn't come from here. 985 00:47:29,398 --> 00:47:33,402 When I go through the various witness reports, 986 00:47:33,436 --> 00:47:36,060 alleged reports and encounters that people have had 987 00:47:36,094 --> 00:47:37,475 with these other entities, 988 00:47:37,509 --> 00:47:38,959 They don't... 989 00:47:38,994 --> 00:47:40,788 It reinforces my opinion 990 00:47:40,823 --> 00:47:42,756 that we are dealing with multiple groups. 991 00:47:42,790 --> 00:47:44,792 So at this point in the game, 992 00:47:44,827 --> 00:47:48,451 my working assumption is that humanity right now 993 00:47:48,486 --> 00:47:51,523 is interacting really on covert basis 994 00:47:51,558 --> 00:47:56,563 with multiple, highly intelligent non-human groups, 995 00:47:57,909 --> 00:47:59,048 than are here and they're here for purposes 996 00:47:59,083 --> 00:48:02,638 that might very well be quite varied. 997 00:48:02,672 --> 00:48:05,848 It's not necessarily the case that they all have one agenda. 998 00:48:05,883 --> 00:48:08,713 Now, some of these groups, 999 00:48:08,747 --> 00:48:11,958 some of these entities, according to, 1000 00:48:11,992 --> 00:48:16,376 again, witness accounts are like the prototypical graves. 1001 00:48:16,410 --> 00:48:20,518 That is the short human eyed, large black eyes 1002 00:48:20,552 --> 00:48:24,108 they have, another type of, 1003 00:48:24,142 --> 00:48:27,697 not even that's been discussed are reptoid types 1004 00:48:27,732 --> 00:48:32,495 that is large kind of intimidating reptilian creatures. 1005 00:48:32,530 --> 00:48:34,877 And yet another type that's been recorded 1006 00:48:34,912 --> 00:48:36,844 are what we might call a mantle 1007 00:48:36,879 --> 00:48:41,021 or insectoid type creatures all, this is bizarre. 1008 00:48:41,056 --> 00:48:43,817 But yet these reports are consistent 1009 00:48:43,851 --> 00:48:46,785 across many, many years in many different types of people, 1010 00:48:46,820 --> 00:48:48,995 some who are utterly ignorant 1011 00:48:49,029 --> 00:48:51,618 of the lore around the literature about this, 1012 00:48:51,652 --> 00:48:54,552 and they still report these, ordinary people. 1013 00:48:54,586 --> 00:48:56,864 So that gives me pause, 1014 00:48:56,899 --> 00:48:58,383 that makes me really wonder 1015 00:48:58,418 --> 00:49:00,903 if these reports are consistent 1016 00:49:00,938 --> 00:49:03,250 with some of the more ancient myths 1017 00:49:03,285 --> 00:49:05,977 that people have reported back in earlier times. 1018 00:49:06,012 --> 00:49:08,083 - As for the murder, was the fact, that 1019 00:49:08,117 --> 00:49:12,432 Cynthia went to a few psychics and asked them, 1020 00:49:12,466 --> 00:49:13,985 you know, well, it shouldn't ask them, 1021 00:49:14,020 --> 00:49:17,161 but she, she was looking to find out 1022 00:49:17,195 --> 00:49:18,610 anything about that murder. 1023 00:49:18,645 --> 00:49:20,095 And I think 1024 00:49:20,129 --> 00:49:22,614 she went to like three or four different psychics, 1025 00:49:22,649 --> 00:49:26,549 and they told her that he was killed by several people. 1026 00:49:26,584 --> 00:49:29,069 one was a woman and there were, 1027 00:49:29,104 --> 00:49:32,210 like two to four men involved. 1028 00:49:32,245 --> 00:49:36,007 I'm gonna go ahead and say, I think that's all we know. 1029 00:49:36,042 --> 00:49:40,115 There's documents out there, they're in the documentary. 1030 00:49:40,149 --> 00:49:42,220 There's more documents that he toured with, 1031 00:49:42,255 --> 00:49:47,260 tons, pictures of UFO's flying away from Bikini Atoll. 1032 00:49:48,364 --> 00:49:50,159 When the military was testing 1033 00:49:50,194 --> 00:49:52,782 their first nuclear bombs out there, 1034 00:49:52,817 --> 00:49:55,751 his father was involved in all this stuff. 1035 00:49:55,785 --> 00:49:58,064 And when his father died 1036 00:49:58,098 --> 00:50:02,447 right around the time that he started going on lecture tour, 1037 00:50:02,482 --> 00:50:04,794 Phil picked up a lot of these documents 1038 00:50:04,829 --> 00:50:07,280 from his father's basement office. 1039 00:50:07,314 --> 00:50:12,112 And Cynthia Schneider even told me this, Cynthia Fair. 1040 00:50:12,147 --> 00:50:17,152 And, basically that's one of the sort of smoking guns 1041 00:50:18,049 --> 00:50:20,051 to the whole phenomenon is that 1042 00:50:20,086 --> 00:50:22,467 there was somebody that wouldn't come out 1043 00:50:22,502 --> 00:50:25,401 and talk about this subject themselves, 1044 00:50:25,436 --> 00:50:28,266 which was Oscar Schneider, 1045 00:50:28,301 --> 00:50:30,510 but his son was would. 1046 00:50:30,544 --> 00:50:31,718 - [Narrator] Down and then you had guys like this 1047 00:50:31,752 --> 00:50:36,757 that they were building, you look at 1048 00:50:39,139 --> 00:50:40,658 the tea party, 1049 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,110 the political party that 1050 00:50:44,144 --> 00:50:48,631 really it was born out of a grassroots movement 1051 00:50:50,116 --> 00:50:53,464 and you look at the way that these people, 1052 00:50:53,498 --> 00:50:57,985 they saw stuff happening and the American public, 1053 00:50:59,401 --> 00:51:02,887 sort of political forum and they were sick and tired of it. 1054 00:51:02,921 --> 00:51:06,580 And they formed the tea party as a group, 1055 00:51:07,685 --> 00:51:10,170 and they became really powerful and now 1056 00:51:10,205 --> 00:51:13,173 they have seats in Congress and everything, but, 1057 00:51:14,554 --> 00:51:15,969 I guess what I'm trying to say is 1058 00:51:16,003 --> 00:51:17,557 Phil Schneider and William Cooper 1059 00:51:17,591 --> 00:51:21,975 were both forming these sort of grassroots movements, 1060 00:51:22,009 --> 00:51:25,668 these large groups of people that were listening to them 1061 00:51:25,703 --> 00:51:27,946 all over the United States. 1062 00:51:27,981 --> 00:51:31,605 And these were people that were 1063 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,367 not necessarily looking for the old calls. 1064 00:51:34,401 --> 00:51:38,509 There were sometimes just average Joes 1065 00:51:38,543 --> 00:51:42,168 that were, tired of what they were being told 1066 00:51:42,202 --> 00:51:45,102 by the government or by the mainstream media. 1067 00:51:45,136 --> 00:51:48,381 And they wanted to find something fresh 1068 00:51:48,415 --> 00:51:50,003 and find something that 1069 00:51:50,037 --> 00:51:53,455 maybe connected better with what they may 1070 00:51:54,352 --> 00:51:55,595 believe to be true, 1071 00:51:55,629 --> 00:51:57,631 what was really going on around the world. 1072 00:51:59,185 --> 00:52:03,534 And I think that's the real threat 1073 00:52:05,018 --> 00:52:09,402 and back then it was a real threat to the powers that be 1074 00:52:09,436 --> 00:52:14,441 because you had a pretty stable system of disinformation, 1075 00:52:16,892 --> 00:52:19,653 infiltrating the minds of the people 1076 00:52:19,688 --> 00:52:22,898 and keeping the paradigm nice and stable. 1077 00:52:24,071 --> 00:52:25,452 But then you had people like 1078 00:52:25,487 --> 00:52:29,353 Phil Schneider and William Cooper going on tour 1079 00:52:29,387 --> 00:52:33,667 around the US and just saying, this is bullshit. 1080 00:52:34,841 --> 00:52:38,224 You're all living a lie, wake up. 1081 00:52:38,258 --> 00:52:41,019 - This world we live in is not simple 1082 00:52:41,054 --> 00:52:43,194 and there's all kinds of stuff out there 1083 00:52:43,229 --> 00:52:45,369 that don't have simple explanations 1084 00:52:45,403 --> 00:52:47,750 and this story really attracted me. 1085 00:52:47,785 --> 00:52:51,306 It really attracted Lee, we've been good friends 1086 00:52:51,340 --> 00:52:53,963 ever since we got attracted to the story and... 1087 00:52:53,998 --> 00:52:55,931 - I think the reason why Darcy and I 1088 00:52:55,965 --> 00:52:59,831 really gravitated towards Phil is because 1089 00:52:59,866 --> 00:53:01,454 for two reasons, one, 1090 00:53:02,627 --> 00:53:05,320 it's probably the most bold claim 1091 00:53:05,354 --> 00:53:07,701 related to the UFO phenomenon I've ever heard, 1092 00:53:07,736 --> 00:53:10,117 the fact that there's aliens underground. 1093 00:53:10,152 --> 00:53:13,293 And the fact that this guy was not only encounter them, 1094 00:53:13,328 --> 00:53:15,122 but was it a battle with them 1095 00:53:15,157 --> 00:53:19,886 and they wounded him in this fight that broke out. 1096 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,682 That is probably the boldest claim I've ever seen 1097 00:53:22,716 --> 00:53:24,166 related to the UFO phenomenon. 1098 00:53:24,201 --> 00:53:27,307 So that's the reason why I think 1099 00:53:27,342 --> 00:53:28,757 we became obsessed with this guy, 1100 00:53:28,791 --> 00:53:32,588 and also he's kind of undebunked. 1101 00:53:32,623 --> 00:53:36,213 You know there's a lot of people on YouTube 1102 00:53:36,247 --> 00:53:40,527 and on the internet that really kind of believe him. 1103 00:53:40,562 --> 00:53:42,874 And I thought that was also interesting 1104 00:53:42,909 --> 00:53:44,393 because it was kind of like this thing 1105 00:53:44,428 --> 00:53:45,739 where maybe we never will know 1106 00:53:45,774 --> 00:53:47,016 if he was telling the truth or not, 1107 00:53:47,051 --> 00:53:48,225 but it's interesting 1108 00:53:48,259 --> 00:53:53,022 because he was a higher math genius. 1109 00:53:53,057 --> 00:53:55,611 I think he had like an IQ of 140 in high school, 1110 00:53:55,646 --> 00:53:57,682 Darcy was that accurate? 1111 00:53:57,717 --> 00:53:59,201 - [Darcy] Yeah it was very, very high. 1112 00:53:59,236 --> 00:54:00,029 - 162, yeah, high IQ, this wasn't just some guy 1113 00:54:00,064 --> 00:54:05,000 that told the story. 1114 00:54:06,139 --> 00:54:08,521 He was a guy with a really rich background, 1115 00:54:08,555 --> 00:54:12,249 really interesting history, he worked on, 1116 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:17,461 we have documents in the documentary of his work history 1117 00:54:17,495 --> 00:54:20,257 and you can see that he worked for Morrison Knudsen 1118 00:54:23,501 --> 00:54:24,778 and, definitely was working 1119 00:54:24,813 --> 00:54:26,849 for these big military contractors. 1120 00:54:26,884 --> 00:54:30,508 So he's not just some guy like a Bob Lasar, 1121 00:54:30,543 --> 00:54:32,959 who has no credentials and has this, 1122 00:54:32,993 --> 00:54:34,374 which by the way, I'm not knocking Bob Lasar. 1123 00:54:34,409 --> 00:54:37,204 I didn't mean it like that I love Bob too. 1124 00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:38,620 I'm just saying - Okay. 1125 00:54:38,654 --> 00:54:42,209 Phil is a guy where we can actually prove his work history. 1126 00:54:42,244 --> 00:54:43,383 - Yeah. 1127 00:54:43,418 --> 00:54:44,867 - So that, that adds some credibility 1128 00:54:44,902 --> 00:54:47,939 that is kind of rare with these type of people. 1129 00:54:47,974 --> 00:54:50,804 - [Narrator] Deep underground military bases, 1130 00:54:50,839 --> 00:54:54,394 extra terrestrials living beneath earth surface, 1131 00:54:54,429 --> 00:54:57,363 a race that might not even be from another planet, 1132 00:54:57,397 --> 00:55:00,227 but rather one that has existed here 1133 00:55:00,262 --> 00:55:04,370 in the shadows throughout mankind's entire development, 1134 00:55:04,404 --> 00:55:07,752 is this the biggest coverup in our history 1135 00:55:07,787 --> 00:55:10,203 or just another conspiracy theory? 1136 00:55:10,237 --> 00:55:14,345 In 2017, we still have no definitive proof 1137 00:55:14,380 --> 00:55:16,451 that any of these claims are true, 1138 00:55:16,485 --> 00:55:18,142 which is all the more reason 1139 00:55:18,176 --> 00:55:19,626 why this just might be 1140 00:55:19,661 --> 00:55:23,250 one of the greatest journalistic responsibilities 1141 00:55:23,285 --> 00:55:24,666 of our time. 1142 00:55:24,700 --> 00:55:27,738 - And I'm not asking you to believe me in total. 1143 00:55:27,772 --> 00:55:31,500 I am asking you to seriously do enough homework 1144 00:55:31,535 --> 00:55:33,847 that you can go out in through the public record, 1145 00:55:33,882 --> 00:55:35,470 through the congressional records, 1146 00:55:35,504 --> 00:55:39,612 find out who's voting for what and go from there. 1147 00:55:39,646 --> 00:55:43,892 Do your own program, do your own agenda 1148 00:55:43,926 --> 00:55:45,721 and do your own speaking out 1149 00:55:45,756 --> 00:55:48,137 and if enough of us to do this, 1150 00:55:48,172 --> 00:55:50,243 there is some saving grace 92685

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