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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,400 Policeman: POLICE. 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,333 ANYBODY HOME? 3 00:00:08,333 --> 00:00:09,633 HELLO? 4 00:00:15,233 --> 00:00:19,533 Woman: LOS ANGELES, CITY OF BROKEN DREAMS. 5 00:00:19,533 --> 00:00:21,700 YOU GOTTA LOOK OUT FOR YOURSELF IN THIS TOWN. 6 00:00:21,700 --> 00:00:23,767 NOTHING HERE IS A SURE BET. 7 00:00:28,167 --> 00:00:30,700 CRIMINY. 8 00:00:32,867 --> 00:00:34,333 AH, DAMN. 9 00:00:38,867 --> 00:00:41,667 Woman: FRED! 10 00:00:41,667 --> 00:00:43,567 WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT? 11 00:00:43,567 --> 00:00:45,000 FRED! 12 00:00:47,500 --> 00:00:48,967 FRED! 13 00:00:50,300 --> 00:00:51,633 IT'S COMING FROM THE CLOSET. 14 00:00:51,633 --> 00:00:53,933 FRED! BUT THE ONE THING 15 00:00:53,933 --> 00:00:56,033 YOU CAN ALWAYS COUNT ON IN HOLLYWOOD... 16 00:00:56,033 --> 00:00:59,600 HERE! ...IS A SURPRISE ENDING. 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,700 BUT YOU CAN BET ON THIS -- 18 00:01:01,700 --> 00:01:04,067 NO ONE SAW THIS ONE COMING. 19 00:01:14,833 --> 00:01:18,067 -- Captions by VITAC -- www.vitac.com 20 00:01:18,067 --> 00:01:21,433 CAPTIONS PAID FOR BY DISCOVERY COMMUNICATIONS 21 00:01:34,233 --> 00:01:36,767 WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. 22 00:01:38,167 --> 00:01:43,100 WE CAME HOME FROM A PARTY ABOUT 2 HOURS AGO. 23 00:01:43,100 --> 00:01:45,067 Martin: THE OFFICERS LEARN THE WOMAN 24 00:01:45,067 --> 00:01:49,067 THAT WAS TRAPPED IN THE CLOSET IS WALBURGA OESTERREICH, 25 00:01:49,067 --> 00:01:50,500 THE WIFE OF THE MURDER VICTIM. 26 00:01:50,500 --> 00:01:53,067 WALBURGA GOES BY THE NAME DOLLY. 27 00:01:53,067 --> 00:01:56,267 WHEN I WENT TO HANG UP MY FUR STOLE IN THE CLOSET... 28 00:02:03,067 --> 00:02:04,333 [ GASPS ] 29 00:02:05,533 --> 00:02:06,900 [ LOCK CLICKS ] 30 00:02:06,900 --> 00:02:10,367 FRED. 31 00:02:10,367 --> 00:02:12,267 FRED, IT'S NOT FUNNY! 32 00:02:14,867 --> 00:02:18,367 I THOUGHT IT WAS FRED. 33 00:02:18,367 --> 00:02:20,567 THE DOOR WAS LOCKED. 34 00:02:20,567 --> 00:02:22,600 THEN I HEARD GUNSHOTS. 35 00:02:29,067 --> 00:02:32,467 MA'AM, AN OFFICER IS GONNA SIT WITH YOU. 36 00:02:32,467 --> 00:02:34,833 YOU -- YOU CAN CALL ME DOLLY. 37 00:02:46,300 --> 00:02:48,133 BACK DOWNSTAIRS, DETECTIVE CLINE 38 00:02:48,133 --> 00:02:53,100 IS TAKING IN THE ENTIRETY OF THE CRIME SCENE. 39 00:02:53,100 --> 00:02:55,967 Kilgariff: THE FRONT ROOM WHERE FRED'S BODY IS, 40 00:02:55,967 --> 00:02:57,467 EVERYTHING'S KNOCKED OVER. 41 00:02:57,467 --> 00:02:58,867 IT'S A TOTAL MESS. 42 00:02:58,867 --> 00:03:00,900 THE BULLET HIT RIGHT THERE, BOSS. 43 00:03:04,767 --> 00:03:06,767 FRED'S A MIDDLE-AGED MAN. 44 00:03:06,767 --> 00:03:10,433 AND HE'S BEEN SHOT TWICE IN THE CHEST, ONCE IN THE HEAD. 45 00:03:10,433 --> 00:03:13,400 AND THERE'S ALSO A BULLET THAT THEY FOUND IN THE CEILING. 46 00:03:16,067 --> 00:03:20,433 Martin: THEY FIND TWO CASINGS FOR A .25-CALIBER HANDGUN. 47 00:03:20,433 --> 00:03:23,967 HOWEVER, A GUN WAS NOT RECOVERED FROM THE SCENE. 48 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,433 TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. 49 00:03:31,433 --> 00:03:33,867 LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING'S MISSING. 50 00:03:33,867 --> 00:03:37,267 Kilgariff: THEY NOTICE THAT HE'S BEEN WEARING A POCKET WATCH. 51 00:03:37,267 --> 00:03:39,400 BROKE OFF DURING THE STRUGGLE? 52 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,367 YEAH, OR TORN OFF. 53 00:03:41,367 --> 00:03:42,967 BUT THE CHAIN'S BROKEN. 54 00:03:42,967 --> 00:03:46,333 AND THERE'S NO ACTUAL WATCH CONNECTED TO IT. 55 00:03:46,333 --> 00:03:47,733 I DON'T SEE IT. 56 00:03:50,433 --> 00:03:53,633 [ SIGHS ] SOMEONE REALLY WANTED THAT WATCH, HUH? 57 00:03:55,667 --> 00:03:58,533 IT WAS, UH, 58 00:03:58,533 --> 00:04:03,433 UNUSUAL... 59 00:04:03,433 --> 00:04:07,833 OCTAGONAL AND DIAMONDS AROUND. 60 00:04:10,100 --> 00:04:13,433 DOLLY TOLD POLICE THAT IT WAS A VERY DISTINCTIVE WATCH 61 00:04:13,433 --> 00:04:14,633 THAT WAS DIAMOND-STUDDED 62 00:04:14,633 --> 00:04:16,400 THAT SHE GAVE HIM AS A GIFT 63 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,333 BACK WHEN THEY LIVED IN MILWAUKEE. 64 00:04:18,333 --> 00:04:20,633 YOU'RE FROM WISCONSIN. 65 00:04:20,633 --> 00:04:21,933 MM. 66 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:33,067 WE MOVED HERE FOUR YEARS AGO 67 00:04:33,067 --> 00:04:35,867 WHEN FRED OPENED A FACTORY 68 00:04:35,867 --> 00:04:39,967 LIKE WE HAD IN MILWAUKEE. 69 00:04:39,967 --> 00:04:41,767 WE MAKE APRONS. 70 00:04:44,500 --> 00:04:46,267 BEFORE THEY MOVED TO LOS ANGELES, 71 00:04:46,267 --> 00:04:49,833 FRED AND DOLLY RAN A BIG GARMENT FACTORY IN MILWAUKEE. 72 00:04:49,833 --> 00:04:51,967 THAT'S HOW I CAME TO KNOW THE OESTERREICHS. 73 00:04:51,967 --> 00:04:53,933 FRED WAS MY BOSS. 74 00:04:53,933 --> 00:04:56,300 AS A WORKING GIRL IN THE NINETEEN-TEENS, 75 00:04:56,300 --> 00:04:58,600 I WAS NO STRANGER TO ADVENTURE. 76 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,500 I FIGURED I MIGHT AS WELL MOVE WITH THE JOB. 77 00:05:01,500 --> 00:05:04,133 DOLLY TELLS THE INVESTIGATORS THAT SHE AND FRED 78 00:05:04,133 --> 00:05:06,200 HAVE BEEN MARRIED FOR OVER 20 YEARS. 79 00:05:09,167 --> 00:05:11,533 THEY MOVED OUT FROM WISCONSIN 80 00:05:11,533 --> 00:05:15,400 FOUR YEARS PRIOR TO EXPAND THEIR GARMENT BUSINESS. 81 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:16,600 Martin: FRED OESTERREICH, 82 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,200 HE HAD AMASSED A FORTUNE OF ABOUT $500,000. 83 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,567 IN TODAY'S DOLLARS, IT'S SEVEN MILLION BUCKS. 84 00:05:21,567 --> 00:05:24,733 THAT'S A LOT OF REASONS TO DO SOMETHING EVIL TO THE MAN. 85 00:05:30,133 --> 00:05:34,733 HAS ANYONE EVER BROKEN INTO YOUR HOME? 86 00:05:34,733 --> 00:05:37,133 YES. 87 00:05:37,133 --> 00:05:39,067 Kilgariff: DOLLY SAID THERE ACTUALLY HAD BEEN 88 00:05:39,067 --> 00:05:41,067 TWO ATTEMPTED BURGLARIES. 89 00:05:41,067 --> 00:05:44,600 MY HUSBAND, HE WOULD HEAR THINGS IN THE NIGHT. 90 00:05:48,900 --> 00:05:52,400 Martin: FRED REPORTED THAT HE HAD HEARD SOME ODD NOISES. 91 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,467 THERE WAS SOME MISSING MONEY, SOME MISSING FOOD. 92 00:05:55,467 --> 00:05:58,233 DOLLY! 93 00:05:58,233 --> 00:06:00,800 DID YOU EAT THE STEAK? 94 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:06,233 STEAKS WOULD BE MISSING FROM THE ICE BOX. 95 00:06:14,900 --> 00:06:16,333 Kilgariff: WHEN THE COPS LOOK AROUND THE HOUSE, 96 00:06:16,333 --> 00:06:17,800 THEY REALIZE NOTHING ELSE 97 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,167 HAS BEEN TAKEN, INCLUDING FRED'S WALLET, 98 00:06:21,167 --> 00:06:25,267 WHICH IS INCHES AWAY FROM THE WATCH THAT WAS STOLEN. 99 00:06:25,267 --> 00:06:27,400 WHY JUST THE WATCH? 100 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,533 HMM. 101 00:06:29,533 --> 00:06:33,333 WELL, I'M THINKING ONE, TWO PEOPLE MAX. 102 00:06:33,333 --> 00:06:34,333 MM. 103 00:06:34,333 --> 00:06:36,233 THEY'RE IN THE LIVING ROOM. 104 00:06:36,233 --> 00:06:39,133 THEN DOLLY AND FRED COME HOME. 105 00:06:39,133 --> 00:06:41,533 THE POLICE ARE THINKING FRED AND DOLLY 106 00:06:41,533 --> 00:06:43,867 INTERRUPTED A BURGLARY IN PROGRESS. 107 00:06:43,867 --> 00:06:46,867 DOLLY GOES STRAIGHT UPSTAIRS. 108 00:06:46,867 --> 00:06:50,567 BUT FRED SURPRISES THEM IN THE LIVING ROOM. 109 00:06:50,567 --> 00:06:54,400 ONE OF THEM SHOVES DOLLY IN THE CLOSET. 110 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:55,800 BUT FRED, MEANWHILE, 111 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,833 IS DOWN HERE STRUGGLING WITH THE OTHER ONE FOR THE GUN. 112 00:06:58,833 --> 00:07:01,267 THEN THESE CLOWNS, THEY GET SCARED. 113 00:07:01,267 --> 00:07:04,333 THEY GRAB THE WATCH. AND THEY RUN. 114 00:07:10,733 --> 00:07:13,800 POLICE ASKED THE NEIGHBORS OF THE OESTERREICHS 115 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,267 ABOUT THE ATTEMPTS TO BURGLE THE HOUSE. 116 00:07:17,267 --> 00:07:19,067 MA'AM, DID YOU NOTICE ANYTHING STRANGE GOING ON 117 00:07:19,067 --> 00:07:21,233 IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? 118 00:07:21,233 --> 00:07:24,533 THERE HAVE BEEN SOME STRANGE THINGS HAPPENING. 119 00:07:24,533 --> 00:07:27,267 THE NEIGHBORS CONFIRMED THAT THERE WAS MULTIPLE 120 00:07:27,267 --> 00:07:30,367 ATTEMPTED BREAK-INS IN THE LAST YEAR. 121 00:07:30,367 --> 00:07:33,633 Kilgariff: ONE NEIGHBOR TOLD POLICE THAT SHE HEARD GUNSHOTS. 122 00:07:33,633 --> 00:07:35,433 AND THEN SHE HEARD A WOMAN'S VOICE YELLING, 123 00:07:35,433 --> 00:07:36,800 "FRED! OH, FRED!" 124 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,733 DID YOU SEE A PERSON OR PERSONS LEAVING THE HOUSE? 125 00:07:40,733 --> 00:07:43,733 I SAW SOMETHING, A SHADOW. 126 00:07:43,733 --> 00:07:48,500 SHE SAW A SHADOW CROSSING TOWARD THE BACK OF THE HOUSE. 127 00:07:48,500 --> 00:07:50,733 AND 15 TO 20 MINUTES LATER, 128 00:07:50,733 --> 00:07:52,500 ALL THE LIGHTS IN THE HOUSE WENT OUT. 129 00:07:56,667 --> 00:07:59,167 Gibson: WHAT ARE BURGLARS DOING STAYING ON THE SCENE OF A CRIME 130 00:07:59,167 --> 00:08:02,167 15 OR 20 MINUTES AFTER THE MURDER? 131 00:08:13,500 --> 00:08:15,567 ** 132 00:08:15,567 --> 00:08:18,600 Woman: IN 1922, L.A. WAS AN EXCITING PLACE 133 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,633 FOR A MIDWESTERN GIRL LIKE ME. 134 00:08:20,633 --> 00:08:22,800 THE HOLLYWOOD SIGN WAS ABOUT TO BE PUT UP. 135 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,067 AND THE PICTURES KEPT GETTING MORE OUTRAGEOUS. 136 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:32,967 BUT NOTHING WAS AS OVER-THE-TOP 137 00:08:32,967 --> 00:08:37,467 AS WHAT I WAS STARTING TO HEAR ABOUT THE OESTERREICHS. 138 00:08:37,467 --> 00:08:38,767 UGH. 139 00:08:38,767 --> 00:08:41,467 SOMETHING'S NOT RIGHT. 140 00:08:41,467 --> 00:08:42,533 HMM. 141 00:08:44,700 --> 00:08:48,600 I THINK IT'S TIME WE TOOK A CLOSER LOOK AT THE WIFE. 142 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,867 THE WIFE WHO WAS LOCKED IN THE CLOSET? 143 00:08:51,867 --> 00:08:55,367 JUST SEEMS LIKE SHE WAS READY TO INHERIT A BUNCH OF DOUGH. 144 00:08:55,367 --> 00:08:57,233 I CHECKED A HUNDRED TIMES. 145 00:08:57,233 --> 00:08:58,933 NO GETTING OUT OF THERE FROM THE INSIDE. 146 00:08:58,933 --> 00:09:01,333 YEAH, I GRANT YOU IT'S A HELL OF AN ALIBI. 147 00:09:02,500 --> 00:09:04,867 [ SIGHS ] 148 00:09:04,867 --> 00:09:07,100 MAYBE SHE HAD ANOTHER FELLA HELPING HER OUT, THOUGH. 149 00:09:07,100 --> 00:09:09,867 HMM? 150 00:09:09,867 --> 00:09:11,200 Martin: DOLLY'S NOT A SUSPECT 151 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,733 UNLESS THERE'S A CO-CONSPIRATOR. 152 00:09:13,733 --> 00:09:18,133 AND THAT BREEDS THE QUESTION, DID SHE HAVE A LOVER? 153 00:09:18,133 --> 00:09:20,833 SO, THIS WAS FRED'S OFFICE, HMM? 154 00:09:20,833 --> 00:09:21,867 YEAH. 155 00:09:21,867 --> 00:09:23,267 DID YOU EVER SEE MRS. OESTERREICH 156 00:09:23,267 --> 00:09:24,867 WITH A MAN OTHER THAN HER HUSBAND? 157 00:09:24,867 --> 00:09:28,200 NO, SIR, NOBODY BUT MR. OESTERREICH. 158 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,200 ALL THE NEIGHBORS AND ASSOCIATES SAID, 159 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:34,233 "NO, DOLLY'S NEVER BEEN WITH ANOTHER MAN." 160 00:09:34,233 --> 00:09:36,667 WE HAVE TO ASK YOU THIS -- 161 00:09:36,667 --> 00:09:39,100 DID FRED EVER STEP OUT ON DOLLY? 162 00:09:39,100 --> 00:09:40,533 N-- NO. 163 00:09:40,533 --> 00:09:41,667 NO, NO. UH, 164 00:09:41,667 --> 00:09:44,200 HE WAS WORKING ALL THE TIME. 165 00:09:48,433 --> 00:09:49,800 FRED DIDN'T HAVE MUCH TIME FOR DOLLY, 166 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,200 MUCH LESS ANOTHER WOMAN IN HIS LIFE. 167 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:53,600 GOOD TO HIS EMPLOYEES? 168 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,400 HE HAD A TEMPER, GOT A LITTLE ANXIOUS, UH, 169 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,300 LOOKING-OVER-YOUR-SHOULDER KIND OF TYPE. 170 00:09:58,300 --> 00:10:00,667 BUT... 171 00:10:00,667 --> 00:10:02,333 Gibson: FRED'S A REALLY RICH GUY. 172 00:10:02,333 --> 00:10:03,800 AND DID HE MAKE A LOT OF ENEMIES 173 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,333 DURING THE COURSE OF HIS BUSINESS? 174 00:10:06,333 --> 00:10:08,433 YOU'RE BEHIND, MISS. 175 00:10:10,900 --> 00:10:12,533 Woman: I'LL CATCH UP, MR. OESTERREICH. 176 00:10:12,533 --> 00:10:15,067 THAT'S RIGHT, YOU WILL! 177 00:10:17,533 --> 00:10:20,633 BUT I DON'T BLAME HIM. 178 00:10:20,633 --> 00:10:24,033 HE HAD MONEY. 179 00:10:24,033 --> 00:10:26,833 Martin: INVESTIGATORS SATISFY THEMSELVES ABOUT THE, PERHAPS, 180 00:10:26,833 --> 00:10:29,033 COMPETING LOVE INTERESTS AND RULED THAT OUT. 181 00:10:29,033 --> 00:10:31,833 SO NOW THEY'VE MOVED TO FRED HIMSELF 182 00:10:31,833 --> 00:10:34,500 AND, IN PARTICULAR, FRED'S BUSINESS LIFE. 183 00:10:37,367 --> 00:10:40,800 THE POLICE WANTED TO EXAMINE FRED'S PERSONAL PAPERS. 184 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,100 YOU'LL SEE ALL THE NUMBERS ARE HERE. 185 00:10:42,100 --> 00:10:44,133 FRED WAS METICULOUS. 186 00:10:44,133 --> 00:10:47,033 DOLLY HIRES AN ATTORNEY BY THE NAME OF HERMAN SHAPIRO. 187 00:10:47,033 --> 00:10:48,267 SHE COOPERATED AND TURNED 188 00:10:48,267 --> 00:10:50,267 THE PERSONAL PAPERS OVER TO THE OFFICERS. 189 00:10:50,267 --> 00:10:54,367 NOW, EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE IN ORDER. 190 00:10:54,367 --> 00:10:57,733 BUT NOTHING OF ANY MEANING WAS FOUND IN THE PAPERS. 191 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,367 POLICE BRING HIS OLD PLANT MANAGER 192 00:11:02,367 --> 00:11:04,200 FROM MILWAUKEE TO LOS ANGELES 193 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,767 TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS. 194 00:11:05,767 --> 00:11:07,500 WHAT WE NEED FROM YOU 195 00:11:07,500 --> 00:11:10,533 IS A TRUTHFUL DEPICTION OF YOUR BOSS. 196 00:11:10,533 --> 00:11:11,933 I UNDERSTAND. 197 00:11:16,133 --> 00:11:18,533 HE DRANK. 198 00:11:18,533 --> 00:11:22,933 AND MOST OF THE TIME, HE WAS A HOLY TERROR. 199 00:11:22,933 --> 00:11:24,467 Gibson: PERRY VOSE TELLS CLINE 200 00:11:24,467 --> 00:11:27,067 THAT FRED WAS A HARD DRINKER. 201 00:11:27,067 --> 00:11:28,600 THAT HE WAS DIFFICULT TO WORK FOR. 202 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,733 AND NOT A WHOLE LOTTA PEOPLE LIKED FRED. 203 00:11:31,733 --> 00:11:34,700 AFTER RAYMOND DIED, IT GOT WORSE. 204 00:11:38,467 --> 00:11:40,833 Kilgariff FRED AND DOLLY DID HAVE A SON, RAYMOND. 205 00:11:40,833 --> 00:11:45,333 HE DIED OVER 10 YEARS BEFORE. 206 00:11:45,333 --> 00:11:46,900 Johnston: LOSING A CHILD, 207 00:11:46,900 --> 00:11:50,067 I THINK, IS EVERY PARENT'S GREATEST FEAR. 208 00:11:50,067 --> 00:11:54,133 AND FRED COPES WITH HIS LOSS OF HIS SON 209 00:11:54,133 --> 00:11:57,300 BY WORKING MORE, BY DRINKING MORE. 210 00:12:02,467 --> 00:12:05,400 I COULDN'T HOLD FRED'S TEMPER AGAINST HIM. 211 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:06,933 ANY GOOD EMPLOYEE KNOWS 212 00:12:06,933 --> 00:12:08,800 THAT IT'S PART OF THE JOB DESCRIPTION 213 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,633 TO MANAGE THE MANAGER. 214 00:12:10,633 --> 00:12:13,967 HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF YOU LOST YOUR KID? 215 00:12:13,967 --> 00:12:18,233 ANYWAY, DOLLY MORE THAN MADE UP FOR IT. 216 00:12:18,233 --> 00:12:19,433 WHAT ABOUT THE WIFE? 217 00:12:19,433 --> 00:12:21,333 [ CHUCKLES ] 218 00:12:21,333 --> 00:12:22,767 SHE TOOK CARE OF US. 219 00:12:25,567 --> 00:12:27,100 AFTER LITTLE RAYMOND DIED, 220 00:12:27,100 --> 00:12:30,633 DOLLY TREATED US ALL LIKE THE CHILDREN SHE DIDN'T HAVE. 221 00:12:30,633 --> 00:12:33,933 I THINK SHE LIKED HAVING SOMEONE TO TAKE CARE OF. 222 00:12:33,933 --> 00:12:36,600 Gibson: DOLLY WAS THE PERSON THAT SOOTHED THINGS, 223 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,567 ESPECIALLY AFTER THEY LOST THEIR SON. 224 00:12:38,567 --> 00:12:42,067 DOLLY BECAME THE MOTHER OF THE BUSINESS. 225 00:12:42,067 --> 00:12:44,200 AND FRED WAS THE HARD DAD. 226 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,633 DID MR. OESTERREICH HAVE ANY ENEMIES? 227 00:12:46,633 --> 00:12:49,933 MAYBE SOMEBODY HATED HIM BUT WANTED TO SPARE DOLLY. 228 00:12:49,933 --> 00:12:51,700 HE WAS A DIFFICULT MAN, 229 00:12:51,700 --> 00:12:54,667 BUT... 230 00:12:54,667 --> 00:12:56,067 WAIT. 231 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,467 I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMEONE -- 232 00:13:00,467 --> 00:13:02,467 EDWARD FLUDE. 233 00:13:02,467 --> 00:13:06,100 FRED HAD SOME REAL TROUBLE WITH THAT GUY. 234 00:13:06,100 --> 00:13:08,067 Martin: THEY FIND OUT THAT FRED DID, INDEED, 235 00:13:08,067 --> 00:13:09,933 HAVE AN ENEMY IN MILWAUKEE. 236 00:13:09,933 --> 00:13:12,600 AND THAT PERSON'S NAME WAS EDWARD FLUDE. 237 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,067 FRED HAD A TEMPER, BUT HIS HEART WAS GOOD. 238 00:13:16,067 --> 00:13:19,067 HE USED TO HIRE EX-CONS OUT ON PAROLE TO HELP THEM 239 00:13:19,067 --> 00:13:20,467 GET BACK ON THEIR FEET 240 00:13:20,467 --> 00:13:23,333 AND BECOME PRODUCTIVE MEMBERS OF SOCIETY AGAIN. 241 00:13:26,567 --> 00:13:28,200 BUT PERSONALLY, 242 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,067 ED FLUDE ALWAYS GAVE ME THE CREEPS. 243 00:13:31,067 --> 00:13:33,633 FRED AND DOLLY EVEN LET HIM STAY AT THEIR HOME. 244 00:13:33,633 --> 00:13:37,300 IN MY OPINION, THAT WAS A BRIDGE TOO FAR. 245 00:13:37,300 --> 00:13:39,267 Martin: FLUDE WINDS UP BACK IN PRISON. 246 00:13:39,267 --> 00:13:41,433 AND ACCORDING TO FRED, FROM HIS PRISON CELL, 247 00:13:41,433 --> 00:13:43,900 HE STARTS SENDING THREATENING LETTERS. 248 00:13:51,833 --> 00:13:56,800 AND NOW ANY IDEA AS TO MR. FLUDE'S WHEREABOUTS? 249 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,900 UH-HUH. 250 00:13:59,900 --> 00:14:01,500 WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 251 00:14:01,500 --> 00:14:04,367 [ SIGHS ] 252 00:14:04,367 --> 00:14:06,067 NO LUCK. 253 00:14:06,067 --> 00:14:08,967 Gibson: AFTER A FEW YEARS, FLUDE WAS RELEASED FROM PRISON 254 00:14:08,967 --> 00:14:10,700 AND THEN DISAPPEARED. 255 00:14:12,567 --> 00:14:14,367 Martin: FLUDE'S WHEREABOUTS ARE UNKNOWN. 256 00:14:22,367 --> 00:14:24,367 ** 257 00:14:24,367 --> 00:14:26,933 Woman: THE 1920s WERE A VERY DIFFERENT TIME. 258 00:14:26,933 --> 00:14:30,100 THERE WERE NO CELLPHONE TOWERS TRACKING OUR MOVEMENTS. 259 00:14:30,100 --> 00:14:32,800 HELL, WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE PICTURE IDs. 260 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,700 IF YOU WANTED TO GET LOST, 261 00:14:34,700 --> 00:14:36,467 IT WAS EASY. 262 00:14:38,967 --> 00:14:42,933 IT'S JULY 1923. 263 00:14:42,933 --> 00:14:45,333 THEY'RE LOOKING FOR FLUDE. 264 00:14:45,333 --> 00:14:48,700 BUT IT'S AS IF HE DROPPED OFF THE FACE OF THE PLANET. 265 00:14:48,700 --> 00:14:50,967 Martin: BACK THEN, IT'S A DIFFICULT UNDERTAKING 266 00:14:50,967 --> 00:14:53,667 TO FIND SOMEBODY THAT DOESN'T WANNA BE FOUND. 267 00:14:53,667 --> 00:14:55,833 BUT THOSE WERE THE BREAKS. 268 00:14:55,833 --> 00:14:57,367 WE STARTED TO FIGURE 269 00:14:57,367 --> 00:15:00,133 WE WOULDN'T EVER KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO FRED. 270 00:15:00,133 --> 00:15:03,400 BUT, LIKE I SAID, NOTHING IN THIS TOWN IS A SURE BET, 271 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,567 EXCEPT FOR A GOOD PLOT TWIST. 272 00:15:07,667 --> 00:15:09,100 WHILE THE SEARCH FOR FLUDE'S GOING ON, 273 00:15:09,100 --> 00:15:12,067 THERE'S AN INTERESTING INVESTIGATIVE DISCOVERY. 274 00:15:14,633 --> 00:15:17,067 A DIAMOND-STUDDED POCKET WATCH 275 00:15:17,067 --> 00:15:18,967 THAT MATCHES THE DESCRIPTION OF THE WATCH 276 00:15:18,967 --> 00:15:21,367 MISSING FROM THE OESTERREICH CRIME SCENE... 277 00:15:23,700 --> 00:15:27,700 ...WHICH DOLLY'S ATTORNEY, MR. SHAPIRO, NOW HAS. 278 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,067 HELLO THERE, COUNSELOR. HELLO. 279 00:15:34,067 --> 00:15:35,833 HOW YOU DOING? I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT. 280 00:15:35,833 --> 00:15:38,467 UH, LISTEN, WOULD YOU MIND STOPPING BY THE OFFICE IN A BIT? 281 00:15:38,467 --> 00:15:40,900 I JUST HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS I WANTED TO ASK. 282 00:15:40,900 --> 00:15:42,533 UH, ALL RIGHT. 283 00:15:42,533 --> 00:15:43,533 THANK YOU. 284 00:15:43,533 --> 00:15:45,767 SHAPIRO, IN HIS LEGAL CAPACITY, 285 00:15:45,767 --> 00:15:49,533 STANDS TO BENEFIT FROM HIS ROLE IN THIS CASE, AS WELL. 286 00:15:49,533 --> 00:15:52,133 SO IS HIS ROLE MORE THAN JUST ATTORNEY HERE? 287 00:15:52,133 --> 00:15:54,900 IS HE A CO-CONSPIRATOR? 288 00:15:54,900 --> 00:15:56,633 HEY. 289 00:15:56,633 --> 00:15:57,933 GOOD MORNING, DETECTIVE. 290 00:15:57,933 --> 00:15:59,833 MORNING. HOW ARE YOU? 291 00:15:59,833 --> 00:16:01,300 GOOD. 292 00:16:04,267 --> 00:16:05,733 I -- I COULDN'T HELP NOTICING 293 00:16:05,733 --> 00:16:09,733 THAT FANCY PIECE OF JEWELRY YOU GOT THERE, COUNSELOR. 294 00:16:09,733 --> 00:16:11,067 WHERE'D YOU GET A WATCH LIKE THAT? 295 00:16:11,067 --> 00:16:12,200 IT WAS A GIFT 296 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:13,500 FOR MY BIRTHDAY. 297 00:16:13,500 --> 00:16:15,700 FROM WHO? 298 00:16:15,700 --> 00:16:18,600 MRS. OESTERREICH. 299 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:19,933 UH-HUH. 300 00:16:19,933 --> 00:16:22,667 DIAMOND-STUDDED WATCH IS A VERY NICE BIRTHDAY GIFT. 301 00:16:22,667 --> 00:16:25,400 CLINE'S GOTTA BE WONDERING WHAT ELSE IS GOING ON HERE. 302 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,067 SHE MORE THAN JUST A CLIENT? 303 00:16:29,067 --> 00:16:30,933 WE'VE BEEN SPENDING SOME TIME TOGETHER. 304 00:16:36,667 --> 00:16:38,467 HERMAN SHAPIRO OPENLY ADMITS 305 00:16:38,467 --> 00:16:39,767 THAT HE WAS ALSO 306 00:16:39,767 --> 00:16:43,233 ROMANTICALLY INVOLVED WITH DOLLY. 307 00:16:43,233 --> 00:16:44,867 WHAT'S THIS ABOUT? 308 00:16:44,867 --> 00:16:46,633 WELL, IT'S ABOUT A TIMEPIECE 309 00:16:46,633 --> 00:16:49,733 THAT FITS THE DESCRIPTION OF YOUR WATCH, 310 00:16:49,733 --> 00:16:52,067 THE ONLY THING STOLEN FROM THE SCENE 311 00:16:52,067 --> 00:16:55,067 THE NIGHT OF FRED OESTERREICH'S MURDER. 312 00:16:55,067 --> 00:16:57,433 YOU GOTTA ADMIT, COUNSELOR, IT'S, UH, 313 00:16:57,433 --> 00:16:59,700 IT'S A LITTLE BIT FUNNY. 314 00:16:59,700 --> 00:17:04,600 YOU SEE, I DID NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. 315 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,067 WHAT'S TRUE 316 00:17:07,067 --> 00:17:08,833 IS THAT I RECEIVED THIS AS A GIFT. 317 00:17:12,067 --> 00:17:13,967 [ SIGHS ] 318 00:17:13,967 --> 00:17:17,500 CLINE WANTS TO TALK TO DOLLY ABOUT WHERE THE WATCH CAME FROM. 319 00:17:24,933 --> 00:17:28,867 I HAVE TO SAY, WIDOW'S WEEDS LOOKED GOOD ON DOLLY. 320 00:17:34,533 --> 00:17:35,833 GOOD AFTERNOON. 321 00:17:35,833 --> 00:17:38,067 Cline: GOOD AFTERNOON. 322 00:17:38,067 --> 00:17:41,067 MRS. OESTERREICH, COULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN 323 00:17:41,067 --> 00:17:43,900 HOW MR. SHAPIRO GOT THAT WATCH? 324 00:17:43,900 --> 00:17:46,900 IT'S ACTUALLY ALL VERY ORDINARY. 325 00:17:46,900 --> 00:17:49,400 I WAS STRAIGHTENING MY SOFA PILLOWS. 326 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,533 WELL, IT MUST HAVE FALLEN DOWN THAT NIGHT. 327 00:17:53,733 --> 00:17:56,267 Gibson: DOLLY SAID, "YEAH, WELL, I THOUGHT IT WAS 328 00:17:56,267 --> 00:17:58,067 STOLEN THE NIGHT THAT FRED WAS MURDERED. 329 00:17:58,067 --> 00:18:00,233 BUT I FOUND IT UNDER SOME CUSHIONS." 330 00:18:00,233 --> 00:18:02,900 YOU DIDN'T THINK TO NOTIFY US 331 00:18:02,900 --> 00:18:07,167 THAT IT WAS, IN FACT, NOT STOLEN? 332 00:18:07,167 --> 00:18:10,433 NO. 333 00:18:10,433 --> 00:18:12,900 AND IT SEEMED WRONG TO HAVE AN OBJECT 334 00:18:12,900 --> 00:18:16,067 OF SUCH BEAUTY SIT IN A BOX. 335 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,533 DOLLY SAID SHE THOUGHT IT WAS STOLEN. 336 00:18:24,533 --> 00:18:27,900 IT WASN'T STOLEN, WASN'T A BIG DEAL. 337 00:18:27,900 --> 00:18:30,900 HEY, CHARLIE. I'M LOOKING FOR INFORMATION ON AN ATTORNEY, 338 00:18:30,900 --> 00:18:32,333 HERMAN SHAPIRO. 339 00:18:32,333 --> 00:18:34,867 WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS FELLA? 340 00:18:38,100 --> 00:18:43,733 Martin: POLICE LOOK MORE CLOSELY AT SHAPIRO AS A SUSPECT. 341 00:18:43,733 --> 00:18:46,933 YEAH, NO MEETINGS BEFORE NOVEMBER. 342 00:18:46,933 --> 00:18:50,167 LOOKS LIKE THEY REALLY DIDN'T KNOW EACH OTHER. 343 00:18:50,167 --> 00:18:53,667 Gibson: TURNED OUT SHAPIRO DID NOT COME INTO CONTACT WITH DOLLY 344 00:18:53,667 --> 00:18:55,667 UNTIL A COUPLE OF MONTHS AFTER THE MURDER. 345 00:18:55,667 --> 00:18:58,267 THEY HADN'T KNOWN EACH OTHER. 346 00:18:58,267 --> 00:19:02,167 YOU KNOW, MAYBE HE'S NOT HIDING ANYTHING. 347 00:19:02,167 --> 00:19:04,567 MAYBE SHE IS. 348 00:19:04,567 --> 00:19:05,800 HMM. 349 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,100 THEY DIG A LITTLE DEEPER 350 00:19:07,100 --> 00:19:09,500 INTO WHAT SHE'S BEEN DOING 351 00:19:09,500 --> 00:19:11,100 SINCE THE TIME OF THE MURDER. 352 00:19:11,100 --> 00:19:14,700 AND THEY FIND OUT THAT DOLLY HAD BEEN DATING A MOVIE PRODUCER... 353 00:19:14,700 --> 00:19:16,600 MR. KLUM, THANK YOU FOR COMING IN. 354 00:19:18,633 --> 00:19:20,733 ...NAMED RAY KLUM. 355 00:19:20,733 --> 00:19:22,200 Martin: RAY'S A PRODUCER IN HOLLYWOOD. 356 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:23,967 BUT HE WAS A FRIEND OF THE OESTERREICHS 357 00:19:23,967 --> 00:19:25,633 FROM THEIR TIME IN MILWAUKEE. 358 00:19:25,633 --> 00:19:28,967 HE WAS, IN FACT, CLOSE WITH BOTH FRED AND DOLLY. 359 00:19:28,967 --> 00:19:32,267 THE OESTERREICHS EVEN LOANED MONEY TO RAY. 360 00:19:32,267 --> 00:19:33,900 SO YOUR FRIENDS, FRED AND DOLLY, 361 00:19:33,900 --> 00:19:37,133 THEY GAVE YOU SOME NICE, EASY CASH. 362 00:19:37,133 --> 00:19:38,433 HOW'D YOU PAY IT BACK? 363 00:19:38,433 --> 00:19:40,500 [ SCOFFS ] 364 00:19:40,500 --> 00:19:42,567 UH, DETECTIVE, THIS, UH, 365 00:19:42,567 --> 00:19:43,967 THIS IS AWFUL. 366 00:19:43,967 --> 00:19:47,100 I, UM, I'M NOT PROUD OF THIS. 367 00:19:47,100 --> 00:19:48,967 RAY OPENLY ADMITS THAT HE HAD DONE 368 00:19:48,967 --> 00:19:51,333 SOMETHING THAT HE NOW REGRETS. 369 00:19:51,333 --> 00:19:54,133 I DID HER A LITTLE FAVOR. 370 00:19:54,133 --> 00:19:56,200 KLUM TELLS THE POLICE THAT, 371 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,400 A FEW DAYS AFTER THE MURDER... 372 00:20:01,333 --> 00:20:03,500 ...DOLLY HAD GIVEN HIM A PACKAGE. 373 00:20:06,833 --> 00:20:09,467 IT FELT LIKE THE OUTLINE OF A GUN. 374 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,967 AND TOLD HIM THAT HE NEEDED TO GET RID OF IT FOR HER. 375 00:20:27,367 --> 00:20:30,133 Woman: RAY KLUM WAS FROM WISCONSIN, LIKE ME. 376 00:20:30,133 --> 00:20:32,433 BUT THE STORY HE TOLD THE POLICE 377 00:20:32,433 --> 00:20:33,967 ABOUT HOW DOLLY ASKED HIM 378 00:20:33,967 --> 00:20:35,800 TO GET RID OF A MYSTERIOUS PACKAGE 379 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:40,533 AFTER FRED WAS MURDERED WAS PURE HOLLYWOOD NOIR. 380 00:20:40,533 --> 00:20:43,033 YOU DIDN'T THINK TO ASK WHAT THIS WAS ALL ABOUT? 381 00:20:43,033 --> 00:20:44,933 NO, I DIDN'T ASK HER ANY QUESTIONS. 382 00:20:44,933 --> 00:20:47,300 I WANTED TO MAKE HER HAPPY. 383 00:20:47,300 --> 00:20:49,400 Martin: RAY KLUM HAS TOLD POLICE 384 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,700 HE RECEIVED THIS PACKAGE 385 00:20:51,700 --> 00:20:55,367 FROM DOLLY TO DISPOSE OF IN THE LA BREA TAR PITS. 386 00:20:55,367 --> 00:20:56,633 [ SCOFFS ] 387 00:20:56,633 --> 00:20:59,167 SHE'S VERY PERSUASIVE. 388 00:21:05,067 --> 00:21:07,467 THE LA BREA TAR PITS WOULD BE THE PERFECT PLACE 389 00:21:07,467 --> 00:21:09,100 TO TOSS A MURDER WEAPON. 390 00:21:09,100 --> 00:21:12,400 ONCE SOMETHING WENT IN, IT WASN'T EVER COMING OUT. 391 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,700 Kilgariff: THE LA BREA TAR PITS ARE BASICALLY A POND FILLED 392 00:21:15,700 --> 00:21:17,800 WITH HOT TAR THAT BUBBLES. 393 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:23,800 AND ANYTHING YOU THROW IN THERE IS GOING TO DISAPPEAR. 394 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,267 Martin: THE POLICE ARE COMPELLED TO TRY AND SEARCH THE TAR PITS 395 00:21:26,267 --> 00:21:28,633 AS BEST THEY CAN. 396 00:21:28,633 --> 00:21:31,167 Policeman: DO YOU SEE THAT? 397 00:21:38,067 --> 00:21:41,567 IT WAS SITTING ON THE EDGE OF THE LA BREA TAR PITS. 398 00:21:41,567 --> 00:21:43,867 RAY DIDN'T THROW IT FAR ENOUGH. 399 00:21:43,867 --> 00:21:46,733 IT TURNS OUT TO BE A 25-CALIBER GUN, 400 00:21:46,733 --> 00:21:50,133 THE SAME CALIBER THAT KILLED FRED OESTERREICH. 401 00:21:50,133 --> 00:21:53,700 11 MONTHS AFTER THE MURDER OF FRED, 402 00:21:53,700 --> 00:21:55,867 DOLLY IS ARRESTED. 403 00:21:55,867 --> 00:21:57,333 DOLLY TELLS THE OFFICERS 404 00:21:57,333 --> 00:21:59,400 THAT SHE FOUND THIS GUN AROUND THE HOUSE 405 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,600 JUST A FEW DAYS AFTER FRED HAD DIED 406 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,067 AND THAT SHE WANTED TO GET RID OF THE GUN 407 00:22:04,067 --> 00:22:07,633 BECAUSE SHE KNEW SHE WOULD BE THE PRIMARY SUSPECT. 408 00:22:07,633 --> 00:22:09,633 BUT THERE'S NO FORENSIC EVIDENCE 409 00:22:09,633 --> 00:22:10,833 OR WITNESS EVIDENCE 410 00:22:10,833 --> 00:22:14,433 TO CONVICT DOLLY OF A CRIME. 411 00:22:14,433 --> 00:22:16,067 THE LOS ANGELES DISTRICT ATTORNEY 412 00:22:16,067 --> 00:22:19,067 IS HOPING THAT MORE EVIDENCE IS PRODUCED. 413 00:22:19,067 --> 00:22:21,067 IT'S JUST HARD TO GET OVER THE FACT THAT SHE'S LOCKED 414 00:22:21,067 --> 00:22:22,700 IN THE CLOSET. 415 00:22:41,867 --> 00:22:43,767 Gibson: CLINE KEPT TRYING TO SHOW THAT 416 00:22:43,767 --> 00:22:46,500 SHE HAD THE ABILITY TO LOCK HERSELF IN THE CLOSET. 417 00:22:49,300 --> 00:22:50,633 [ KEY RATTLES ] 418 00:22:56,367 --> 00:22:58,367 BUT IT WASN'T POSSIBLE. 419 00:22:58,367 --> 00:23:01,767 SOMEONE ELSE HAD TO LOCK THE CLOSET FROM THE OUTSIDE. 420 00:23:07,067 --> 00:23:11,067 SO THE D.A. ANNOUNCES IN JANUARY OF 1925 421 00:23:11,067 --> 00:23:12,600 THAT HE DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH EVIDENCE 422 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,133 TO TAKE DOLLY TO TRIAL. 423 00:23:15,133 --> 00:23:18,067 Martin: SO DOLLY IS RELEASED FROM POLICE CUSTODY. 424 00:23:29,833 --> 00:23:33,467 EVEN I HAD TO ADMIT THAT DOLLY LOOKED GUILTY AS SIN, 425 00:23:33,467 --> 00:23:36,300 EVEN IF NO ONE COULD FIGURE OUT HOW SHE'D DONE IT. 426 00:23:36,300 --> 00:23:40,067 SOME MEN SEEMED WILLING TO DO ANYTHING FOR HER. 427 00:23:40,067 --> 00:23:44,200 SHE WAS A REAL-LIFE FEMME FATALE. 428 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,600 BUT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE SEQUEL 429 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,533 TO FIND OUT WHAT HAD HAPPENED. 430 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,167 YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT SECRETS -- 431 00:24:08,167 --> 00:24:10,167 THREE PEOPLE CAN KEEP A SECRET 432 00:24:10,167 --> 00:24:12,500 IF TWO OF THEM ARE DEAD. 433 00:24:12,500 --> 00:24:16,067 FRED HAD TAKEN HIS SECRETS TO THE GRAVE. 434 00:24:16,067 --> 00:24:17,733 I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN OFFICIAL STATEMENT 435 00:24:17,733 --> 00:24:21,233 ABOUT THE MURDER OF FRED OESTERREICH. 436 00:24:21,233 --> 00:24:23,233 IT ONLY TOOK FIVE YEARS, 437 00:24:23,233 --> 00:24:26,333 BUT, BOY, WAS IT WORTH THE WAIT. 438 00:24:26,333 --> 00:24:29,600 AND, UH, WELL, 439 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,800 IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO BELIEVE. 440 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,200 ALL RIGHT. 441 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,600 Gibson: SHAPIRO PAYS A VISIT TO THE D.A. 442 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,800 IT'S FEBRUARY OF 1930. 443 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:43,200 BY THIS TIME, SHAPIRO AND DOLLY WERE BROKEN UP. 444 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,133 Kilgariff: SHAPIRO TELLS AUTHORITIES THAT, 445 00:24:45,133 --> 00:24:47,467 WHEN DOLLY GOT ARRESTED IN 1923, 446 00:24:47,467 --> 00:24:50,167 SHE ASKED HIM A VERY STRANGE FAVOR. 447 00:24:50,167 --> 00:24:52,500 I VISITED DOLLY REGULARLY IN JAIL. 448 00:24:52,500 --> 00:24:53,933 MM-HMM. 449 00:24:53,933 --> 00:24:56,067 WELL, ONE DAY, 450 00:24:56,067 --> 00:24:59,500 SHE ASKS ME TO GET SOME ITEMS AT THE STORE. 451 00:24:59,500 --> 00:25:01,833 Martin: AND THAT KINDA PUZZLED SHAPIRO. 452 00:25:01,833 --> 00:25:04,467 WHY BRING OVER GROCERIES TO AN EMPTY HOUSE? 453 00:25:04,467 --> 00:25:06,733 I SAID, "FOR WHAT?" 454 00:25:06,733 --> 00:25:10,300 AND SHE SAYS FOR HER HALF-BROTHER. 455 00:25:10,300 --> 00:25:12,933 Kilgariff: SO SHAPIRO GOES AND GETS GROCERIES. 456 00:25:12,933 --> 00:25:14,333 HE DROPS THEM OFF AT THE HOUSE. 457 00:25:14,333 --> 00:25:17,067 HE DOESN'T SEE ANYBODY, SO HE JUST LEAVES. 458 00:25:17,067 --> 00:25:19,667 SEVERAL DAYS LATER, SHE'S IN A PANIC. 459 00:25:19,667 --> 00:25:21,133 SHE'S WORRIED. 460 00:25:21,133 --> 00:25:22,533 HER, UH, 461 00:25:22,533 --> 00:25:26,933 HALF-BROTHER IS A BIT OF A RECLUSE. 462 00:25:26,933 --> 00:25:30,600 THIS IS WHERE IT GETS A LITTLE, UH... 463 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,300 HE -- 464 00:25:32,300 --> 00:25:34,133 HE'S BEEN LIVING IN THE ATTIC. 465 00:25:36,833 --> 00:25:38,867 NOW, THIS ONE DETAIL, IT'S A LITTLE BIZARRE -- 466 00:25:38,867 --> 00:25:41,933 SHE WANTS ME TO SCRATCH THREE TIMES ON THE ATTIC DOOR 467 00:25:41,933 --> 00:25:43,833 TO LET HIM KNOW THAT I'M THERE. 468 00:25:43,833 --> 00:25:47,600 AND, UH, DID YOU DO IT? 469 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,133 I DID. 470 00:26:01,067 --> 00:26:03,567 WELL? 471 00:26:11,900 --> 00:26:13,867 WHY, HELLO. 472 00:26:21,900 --> 00:26:23,367 SO YOU'RE TELLING ME THERE WAS A LITTLE MAN LIVING 473 00:26:23,367 --> 00:26:26,167 IN YOUR OLD LADY'S ATTIC, AND YOU DIDN'T KNOW? 474 00:26:26,167 --> 00:26:28,467 THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. 475 00:26:28,467 --> 00:26:30,400 AND HE WASN'T A VAGRANT AT ALL. 476 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,300 THE NAME'S OTTO. 477 00:26:32,300 --> 00:26:34,133 YOU'RE THE LAWYER -- SHAPIRO, RIGHT? 478 00:26:34,133 --> 00:26:35,400 RIGHT. 479 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,733 DOLLY'S TOLD ME ABOUT YOU. [ BREATHES HEAVILY ] 480 00:26:38,733 --> 00:26:39,733 MAY I? 481 00:26:39,733 --> 00:26:41,333 YEAH, PLEASE. 482 00:26:41,333 --> 00:26:43,667 Gibson: THE MAN IS WHITE AND SMALL 483 00:26:43,667 --> 00:26:45,800 AND LOOKS LIKE HE'S IN HIS 30s. 484 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,700 Kilgariff: HIS NAME IS OTTO SANHUBER. 485 00:26:47,700 --> 00:26:50,833 SO IF YOU'RE SHAPIRO, THE MAN WHO WAS DOLLY'S LOVER, 486 00:26:50,833 --> 00:26:52,267 HE HAD BEEN IN HER HOUSE. 487 00:26:52,267 --> 00:26:54,933 HE'S GOTTA BE THINKING, "WHERE DID THIS GUY COME FROM?" 488 00:26:54,933 --> 00:26:57,267 AND SHE NEVER ONCE MENTIONED THIS SIBLING? 489 00:26:57,267 --> 00:26:59,833 NO. BECAUSE HE WASN'T HER SIBLING. 490 00:26:59,833 --> 00:27:01,400 SO YOU'RE HER HALF-BROTHER. 491 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:02,867 OH, NO. 492 00:27:02,867 --> 00:27:05,900 WHO ARE YOU, THEN? 493 00:27:05,900 --> 00:27:08,833 [ GULPS ] 494 00:27:08,833 --> 00:27:10,300 I'M HER LOVER. 495 00:27:10,300 --> 00:27:11,300 COME AGAIN? 496 00:27:11,300 --> 00:27:12,300 COME AGAIN? 497 00:27:12,300 --> 00:27:14,333 IT'S THE TRUTH. 498 00:27:14,333 --> 00:27:18,567 AND IT STARTED IN MILWAUKEE. 499 00:27:18,567 --> 00:27:20,867 Kilgariff: OTTO TOLD HIM THAT HE GREW UP 500 00:27:20,867 --> 00:27:25,233 AS AN ORPHAN AND MET DOLLY IN 1911. 501 00:27:25,233 --> 00:27:28,200 AT THAT TIME, HE WAS A TEENAGER AND HE WAS WORKING 502 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,333 AS A SEWING-MACHINE REPAIRMAN AT FRED'S FACTORY. 503 00:27:34,767 --> 00:27:37,633 YOU LOOK LIKE YOU KNOW SEWING MACHINES. 504 00:27:37,633 --> 00:27:40,533 OTTO SAYS SHE WAS VERY FRIENDLY WITH HIM. 505 00:27:40,533 --> 00:27:42,833 THEY KNEW EACH OTHER AT THE FACTORY. 506 00:27:42,833 --> 00:27:44,367 DOLLY LIKED TO SEW AT HOME. 507 00:27:44,367 --> 00:27:46,767 SO OTTO WAS SENT TO REPAIR THE MACHINE. 508 00:27:48,700 --> 00:27:50,367 ** 509 00:27:54,900 --> 00:27:57,633 Gibson: DOLLY ANSWERED THE DOOR IN A SILK ROBE, 510 00:27:57,633 --> 00:28:00,333 BLACK STOCKINGS, AND NOTHING ELSE. 511 00:28:12,633 --> 00:28:15,600 YOUR, UH, TREADLE IS LOOSE, MA'AM? 512 00:28:24,267 --> 00:28:25,667 [ CLEARS THROAT ] 513 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,067 [ MOANING ] 514 00:28:52,833 --> 00:28:54,167 [ MOANING ] 515 00:28:57,467 --> 00:28:59,100 OH. 516 00:29:06,467 --> 00:29:08,633 AFTER THAT, DOLLY'S SEWING MACHINE 517 00:29:08,633 --> 00:29:10,700 WOULD "BREAK DOWN" A LOT. 518 00:29:13,833 --> 00:29:16,567 OTTO SAYS DOLLY WAS INSATIABLE. 519 00:29:16,567 --> 00:29:21,400 THEY HAD SEX 8 TO 10 TIMES A DAY ON THESE VISITS. 520 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,700 AND THAT PROBABLY HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE FACT 521 00:29:23,700 --> 00:29:24,900 THAT FRED ESSENTIALLY 522 00:29:24,900 --> 00:29:26,967 DIDN'T REALLY PAY ATTENTION TO HER. 523 00:29:29,700 --> 00:29:31,600 Gibson: DOLLY WAS VERY WORRIED THAT THE NEIGHBORS 524 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,400 WERE GOING TO SEE OTTO COMING TO HER HOUSE 525 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:34,967 OVER AND OVER AGAIN 526 00:29:34,967 --> 00:29:36,933 AND THAT HER AFFAIR WAS GOING TO BE FOUND OUT. 527 00:29:36,933 --> 00:29:39,267 SO DOLLY STARTS THINKING ABOUT THE ATTIC. 528 00:29:39,267 --> 00:29:41,533 I MEAN, FRED SIMPLY DIDN'T GO TO THE ATTIC. 529 00:29:41,533 --> 00:29:44,967 HE WON'T KNOW, HONESTLY. 530 00:29:44,967 --> 00:29:47,267 Kilgariff: SHE COMES UP WITH THIS PLAN 531 00:29:47,267 --> 00:29:51,300 FOR OTTO TO QUIT HIS JOB AND MOVE INTO HER ATTIC. 532 00:29:51,300 --> 00:29:53,467 Gibson: CAN YOU IMAGINE THE CONVERSATION 533 00:29:53,467 --> 00:29:54,700 THAT DOLLY HAD WITH OTTO? 534 00:29:54,700 --> 00:29:57,067 "I NEED YOU TO LIVE IN MY ATTIC SO THAT, 535 00:29:57,067 --> 00:30:02,233 WHEN I NEED TO HAVE SEX WITH YOU, YOU'RE AVAILABLE." 536 00:30:02,233 --> 00:30:05,433 Kilgariff: THIS ARRANGEMENT WORKED OUT GREAT FOR OTTO. 537 00:30:05,433 --> 00:30:08,633 HE LIVED THERE RENT-FREE. 538 00:30:08,633 --> 00:30:10,300 WHEN FRED LEFT FOR WORK IN THE MORNING, 539 00:30:10,300 --> 00:30:13,500 HE WOULD COME DOWNSTAIRS. 540 00:30:13,500 --> 00:30:17,867 AND FOR DOLLY, SHE DOESN'T ONLY GET A LOVER ALL DAY LONG, 541 00:30:17,867 --> 00:30:22,733 BUT FRED WAS TOO CHEAP TO HIRE A MAID. 542 00:30:22,733 --> 00:30:26,300 DOLLY WOULD HAVE OTTO MOP, DO THE DISHES, 543 00:30:26,300 --> 00:30:28,633 CLEAN THE SHEETS, DO THE LAUNDRY. 544 00:30:31,933 --> 00:30:33,500 WHEN FRED WOULD COME HOME, 545 00:30:33,500 --> 00:30:38,667 DOLLY SNUCK FOOD UP TO OTTO AND BROUGHT HIM BOOKS. 546 00:30:38,667 --> 00:30:43,633 HE SPENT THIS TIME READING AND THEN WRITING HIS OWN STORIES. 547 00:30:43,633 --> 00:30:45,833 [ DOOR OPENS ] 548 00:30:45,833 --> 00:30:47,133 [ DOOR CLOSES ] 549 00:30:47,133 --> 00:30:48,533 Gibson: WHEN FRED AND DOLLY WENT OUT AT NIGHT, 550 00:30:48,533 --> 00:30:50,433 HE WOULD SOMETIMES LEAVE THE HOUSE 551 00:30:50,433 --> 00:30:54,300 AND WALK AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 552 00:30:54,300 --> 00:30:56,167 AND THIS CONTINUES FOR THE NEXT SIX YEARS. 553 00:30:56,167 --> 00:30:57,667 SIX YEARS? 554 00:30:57,667 --> 00:31:00,800 HE SAID HE LIKED THE ARRANGEMENT. 555 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:05,133 WHY WOULD A PERSON WANT TO LIVE IN SOMEONE'S ATTIC? 556 00:31:09,867 --> 00:31:12,500 Johnston: OTTO HAS LIVED A PRETTY IMPOVERISHED LIFE. 557 00:31:12,500 --> 00:31:16,900 HE WAS A FOUNDLING, FOUND ON A DOORSTEP AT BIRTH. 558 00:31:16,900 --> 00:31:20,200 HE NEVER KNEW HIS BIRTH PARENTS. 559 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,933 HE PROBABLY DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF EXPECTATIONS IN LIFE. 560 00:31:23,933 --> 00:31:25,267 AND WHEN DOLLY SHOWED HIM 561 00:31:25,267 --> 00:31:27,567 SOME AFFECTION AND SOME ATTENTION, 562 00:31:27,567 --> 00:31:29,533 HE MUST HAVE FELT LIKE HE WON THE LOTTERY. 563 00:31:31,833 --> 00:31:33,067 [ GIGGLES ] 564 00:31:33,067 --> 00:31:34,300 [ LAUGHS ] 565 00:31:34,300 --> 00:31:35,533 OH. 566 00:31:35,533 --> 00:31:37,833 MEANWHILE, YOU HAVE DOLLY, 567 00:31:37,833 --> 00:31:39,367 WHO'S LOST A SON, 568 00:31:39,367 --> 00:31:42,167 WHO OBVIOUSLY HAS A PRETTY HEALTHY LIBIDO. 569 00:31:42,167 --> 00:31:45,067 AND SHE MEETS SOMEBODY WHO'S NEVER HAD A MOTHER, 570 00:31:45,067 --> 00:31:46,867 WHO IS AT A TIME IN HIS LIFE 571 00:31:46,867 --> 00:31:50,400 WHEN HE'S VERY INTERESTED IN SEX. 572 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,333 INITIALLY, OTTO AND DOLLY 573 00:31:52,333 --> 00:31:56,933 WERE THESE TWO MISSING PIECES IN EACH OTHER'S PUZZLES. 574 00:31:56,933 --> 00:31:58,333 BUT THIS WAS MILWAUKEE. 575 00:31:58,333 --> 00:31:59,600 WHAT'S THIS GOT TO DO WITH FRED'S MURDER? 576 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,700 Shapiro: WELL, I'M GETTING THERE. 577 00:32:01,700 --> 00:32:04,967 FRED OPENS HIS NEW FACTORY ON THE WEST COAST. 578 00:32:04,967 --> 00:32:08,733 SO DOLLY ARRANGES FOR OTTO TO MOVE, TOO. 579 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,967 Kilgariff: THEN, SEVEN YEARS INTO DOLLY AND OTTO'S ROMANCE, 580 00:32:16,967 --> 00:32:19,367 FRED DECIDES HE NEEDS TO MOVE TO LOS ANGELES 581 00:32:19,367 --> 00:32:22,100 TO EXPAND HIS BUSINESS. 582 00:32:22,100 --> 00:32:25,600 Gibson: DOLLY DECIDES, "OTTO'S GONNA MOVE WITH US." 583 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,233 SO OTTO MOVES FROM AN ATTIC IN MILWAUKEE 584 00:32:29,233 --> 00:32:31,933 TO AN ATTIC IN LOS ANGELES. 585 00:32:31,933 --> 00:32:34,533 Kilgariff: AND LIVED THERE FOR FOUR YEARS. 586 00:32:34,533 --> 00:32:35,967 Martin: WHERE'D HE GO TO THE BATHROOM? 587 00:32:35,967 --> 00:32:38,533 WHAT IF HE SNORED? WHEN DID HE BATHE? 588 00:32:41,167 --> 00:32:43,433 Johnston: IT ALMOST REMINDS ME OF SOMEBODY WHO WAS IN A CULT, 589 00:32:43,433 --> 00:32:46,067 WHO, PHYSICALLY, THEY'RE ABLE TO LEAVE. 590 00:32:46,067 --> 00:32:49,600 BUT THEY HAVE SO MUCH INVESTED IN THAT RELATIONSHIP 591 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,567 THAT THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY CAN LEAVE. 592 00:32:55,833 --> 00:32:57,467 AND YOU'RE TELLING ME FRED OESTERREICH 593 00:32:57,467 --> 00:32:58,633 NEVER HAD A CLUE? 594 00:32:58,633 --> 00:33:01,067 AFTER A WHILE, HE STARTED NOTICING BIZARRE THINGS 595 00:33:01,067 --> 00:33:02,600 AT HOME, YEAH. 596 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,467 [ DEAN MARTIN'S "PRETTY BABY" PLAYS ] 597 00:33:05,467 --> 00:33:07,733 Sanhuber: [ SNEEZES ] * EVERYBODY LOVES A BABY * 598 00:33:07,733 --> 00:33:09,267 * THAT'S WHY I'M IN LOVE WITH YOU * 599 00:33:09,267 --> 00:33:12,167 DID YOU HEAR THAT? 600 00:33:12,167 --> 00:33:15,567 YOU SHOULD REALLY GO LIE DOWN, DEAR. 601 00:33:15,567 --> 00:33:17,767 YOU'RE TIRED. 602 00:33:17,767 --> 00:33:20,433 Gibson: SHAPIRO SAYS OTTO TOLD HIM 603 00:33:20,433 --> 00:33:23,133 THAT FRED STARTED TO HAVE SOME SUSPICIONS 604 00:33:23,133 --> 00:33:28,067 THAT SOMETHING STRANGE WAS HAPPENING IN HIS HOUSE. 605 00:33:28,067 --> 00:33:30,267 HE WOULD HEAR MOVEMENT. 606 00:33:30,267 --> 00:33:32,967 THE LEFTOVERS WILL BE GONE. 607 00:33:38,933 --> 00:33:42,300 Kilgariff: DOLLY TOLD FRED THAT HE WAS WORKING TOO HARD, 608 00:33:42,300 --> 00:33:43,700 THAT HE WAS DRINKING TOO MUCH, 609 00:33:43,700 --> 00:33:45,067 ESSENTIALLY TRYING TO CONVINCE HIM 610 00:33:45,067 --> 00:33:47,067 HE WAS A LITTLE BIT CRAZY 611 00:33:47,067 --> 00:33:50,633 SO THAT SHE COULD KEEP THIS HIDDEN LOVER 612 00:33:50,633 --> 00:33:53,167 RIGHT UNDER HIS NOSE. 613 00:33:58,133 --> 00:33:59,733 OKAY. 614 00:33:59,733 --> 00:34:02,300 NOW, THIS IS A HELL OF A TALE. BUT I GOTTA ASK HERE. 615 00:34:02,300 --> 00:34:04,767 THIS GUY WAS UPSTAIRS 616 00:34:04,767 --> 00:34:09,067 WHILE YOU WERE, UM... 617 00:34:09,067 --> 00:34:11,867 REGULARLY VISITING MRS. OESTERREICH? 618 00:34:11,867 --> 00:34:15,800 THAT IS THE CASE. 619 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,833 I CAN'T REALLY HEAR MUCH UP THERE. 620 00:34:22,967 --> 00:34:26,400 SO HE TOLD YOU A LOT, HUH? 621 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:27,933 DID HE TELL YOU WHAT HE REMEMBERED ABOUT 622 00:34:27,933 --> 00:34:29,933 THE SUMMER OF 1922? 623 00:34:29,933 --> 00:34:31,800 YES. UM... 624 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,233 I'M A MEMBER OF THIS HOUSEHOLD. 625 00:34:35,233 --> 00:34:39,833 AND I DO FEEL A SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY. 626 00:34:39,833 --> 00:34:41,100 Kilgariff: OTTO TOLD SHAPIRO THAT, 627 00:34:41,100 --> 00:34:43,067 IN THE MONTHS LEADING UP TO FRED'S DEATH, 628 00:34:43,067 --> 00:34:45,967 THERE HAD BEEN MULTIPLE ATTEMPTS 629 00:34:45,967 --> 00:34:47,333 AT BREAK-INS. 630 00:34:47,333 --> 00:34:49,300 I FELT I SHOULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING. 631 00:34:49,300 --> 00:34:50,933 BUT WHAT COULD YOU HAVE DONE? 632 00:34:50,933 --> 00:34:55,533 I DECIDED THAT, WHEN FRED AND DOLLY WENT OUT AT NIGHT, 633 00:34:55,533 --> 00:34:59,167 I WOULD BE A GUARD OF SORTS. 634 00:34:59,167 --> 00:35:01,300 BACK THEN, I OWNED A GUN. 635 00:35:03,833 --> 00:35:08,833 OTTO TOLD ME A GREAT DEAL WHEN WE REALLY STARTED TALKING. 636 00:35:08,833 --> 00:35:10,800 WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE FRED DIED? 637 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:15,433 THAT NIGHT, I HEARD A TERRIBLE FIGHT. 638 00:35:15,433 --> 00:35:19,200 ON AUGUST 22, 1922, 639 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,133 FRED AND DOLLY CAME HOME FROM A PARTY. 640 00:35:22,133 --> 00:35:23,467 Dolly: YOU'RE SO DRUNK. 641 00:35:23,467 --> 00:35:25,333 Fred: DON'T YOU TELL ME WHAT TO DO. 642 00:35:25,333 --> 00:35:26,433 IT'S DISGUSTING. 643 00:35:26,433 --> 00:35:27,500 Kilgariff FRED AND DOLLY WERE FIGHTING. 644 00:35:27,500 --> 00:35:28,600 STOP IT! 645 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,067 [ THUD ] 646 00:35:30,067 --> 00:35:32,733 HE WAS AWFUL. 647 00:35:32,733 --> 00:35:34,533 OTTO SAYS THAT HE WAS AFRAID 648 00:35:34,533 --> 00:35:36,833 THAT FRED WAS HURTING DOLLY. 649 00:35:36,833 --> 00:35:38,700 THIS TRUE? I WASN'T THERE. 650 00:35:38,700 --> 00:35:40,500 I MEAN, THIS IS WHAT HE TOLD ME. 651 00:35:42,967 --> 00:35:48,267 Gibson: OTTO SAYS THAT HE RAN DOWNSTAIRS TO CONFRONT FRED 652 00:35:48,267 --> 00:35:50,100 AND SAW DOLLY ON THE GROUND. 653 00:35:55,567 --> 00:35:58,200 WHAT DID FRED DO? YOU WORKED FOR HIM 15 YEARS AGO. 654 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,067 AND NOW YOU'RE STANDING IN HIS LIVING ROOM. 655 00:36:00,067 --> 00:36:03,467 DID -- DID HE RECOGNIZE YOU? 656 00:36:03,467 --> 00:36:04,633 I DON'T KNOW. 657 00:36:08,533 --> 00:36:11,233 OTTO SAYS THAT FRED STARTED TO MOVE TOWARDS HIM. 658 00:36:11,233 --> 00:36:15,433 AND HE THOUGHT THAT FRED WAS GOING TO BEAT OR KILL HIM. 659 00:36:15,433 --> 00:36:16,867 Fred: [ Choking ] PLEASE. 660 00:36:16,867 --> 00:36:18,567 [ GUNSHOT ] 661 00:36:19,900 --> 00:36:21,667 [ GUNSHOTS ] [ GROANS ] 662 00:36:21,667 --> 00:36:22,933 Dolly: OH, GOD. 663 00:36:25,533 --> 00:36:27,233 [ THUD ] 664 00:36:27,233 --> 00:36:28,900 [ THUD ] 665 00:36:28,900 --> 00:36:31,400 I HAD NO OTHER CHOICE. 666 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,733 Kilgariff: OTTO TOLD SHAPIRO THAT 667 00:36:32,733 --> 00:36:35,400 HE HAD TO SHOOT HIM IN SELF-DEFENSE. 668 00:36:38,500 --> 00:36:41,067 IF I WAS FRED IN THOSE LAST MOMENTS, 669 00:36:41,067 --> 00:36:44,133 HOW SURREAL WOULD THAT BE? 670 00:36:44,133 --> 00:36:46,600 "THIS IS THE KID THAT USED TO FIX SEWING MACHINES 671 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:51,700 FROM MY FACTORY IN MILWAUKEE." 672 00:36:51,700 --> 00:36:54,433 Gibson: DID FRED FINALLY PIECE IT TOGETHER THAT, 673 00:36:54,433 --> 00:36:59,200 "THIS PERSON'S LIVING IN MY HOUSE"? 674 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,933 SON OF A... 675 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,700 Dolly: OH, GOD. 676 00:37:13,700 --> 00:37:15,100 WHAT HAPPENED NEXT? 677 00:37:15,100 --> 00:37:16,900 THEY, UH, THEY HAD TO FIND AN EXPLANATION 678 00:37:16,900 --> 00:37:21,067 FOR DOLLY TO GIVE THE POLICE. 679 00:37:21,067 --> 00:37:23,733 Kilgariff: SHAPIRO SAYS THAT OTTO TOLD HIM... 680 00:37:23,733 --> 00:37:26,067 THERE WAS A -- A BREAK-IN. 681 00:37:26,067 --> 00:37:32,500 ...THAT IT WAS HIS IDEA TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A ROBBERY. 682 00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:38,233 "I'LL PUT YOU IN THE CLOSET. I'LL LOCK IT FROM OUTSIDE." 683 00:37:38,233 --> 00:37:40,533 Kilgariff: HE LEAVES THE KEY 684 00:37:40,533 --> 00:37:43,467 RIGHT WHERE AUTHORITIES COULD FIND IT. 685 00:37:43,467 --> 00:37:46,367 AND THEN HE GOES BACK UP INTO THE ATTIC 686 00:37:46,367 --> 00:37:49,200 AND WAITS TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS. 687 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,900 OTTO WAS STILL THERE WHEN THE COPS ARRIVED AT THE SCENE? 688 00:37:52,900 --> 00:37:54,133 YEAH. 689 00:37:54,133 --> 00:37:56,633 AND LIVING IN THE ATTIC EVEN AFTER FRED DIED? 690 00:37:56,633 --> 00:37:59,633 YES. HE SAID HE DIDN'T KNOW WHERE ELSE TO GO. 691 00:37:59,633 --> 00:38:03,067 AND DOLLY DIDN'T WANT HIM LIVING DOWNSTAIRS. 692 00:38:03,067 --> 00:38:05,533 PEOPLE WOULD TALK. 693 00:38:08,233 --> 00:38:10,533 Johnston: EVEN AFTER FRED DIES, 694 00:38:10,533 --> 00:38:13,067 I DON'T THINK, AT ANY POINT IN TIME, 695 00:38:13,067 --> 00:38:15,167 DID DOLLY EVER EVEN FANTASIZE 696 00:38:15,167 --> 00:38:17,433 ABOUT MOVING OTTO DOWNSTAIRS 697 00:38:17,433 --> 00:38:19,433 AND THEM UNITING AS A COUPLE 698 00:38:19,433 --> 00:38:21,867 AND GOING OUT IN PUBLIC. 699 00:38:21,867 --> 00:38:26,433 DOLLY IS OTTO'S COMPLETE AND TOTAL WORLD. 700 00:38:26,433 --> 00:38:31,267 OTTO, ON THE OTHER HAND, IS NOT DOLLY'S WORLD. 701 00:38:31,267 --> 00:38:34,700 Martin: IN MID-1923, DOLLY'S ARRESTED. 702 00:38:34,700 --> 00:38:38,967 THE GIG IS UP, AT THAT POINT, FOR OTTO. 703 00:38:38,967 --> 00:38:40,867 Kilgariff: SHAPIRO ACTUALLY HELPED HIM 704 00:38:40,867 --> 00:38:42,533 MOVE OUT OF THE HOUSE. 705 00:38:42,533 --> 00:38:48,700 AND THEN HE EVENTUALLY MOVED TO CANADA AND GOT MARRIED. 706 00:38:48,700 --> 00:38:50,267 Woman: WHAT CAN I SAY? 707 00:38:50,267 --> 00:38:53,133 SHAPIRO'S STORY STILL LEAVES ME SPEECHLESS. 708 00:38:53,133 --> 00:38:56,600 TO THINK THIS WAS GOING ON UNDER OUR NOSES ALL THIS TIME. 709 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,833 WELL, YOU CAN BET THE POLICE TRACKED OTTO DOWN 710 00:38:58,833 --> 00:39:01,833 AND BROUGHT HIM IN LICKETY-SPLIT. 711 00:39:01,833 --> 00:39:04,967 Gibson: HE'S LIVING WHAT APPEARS TO BE A NORMAL LIFE. 712 00:39:04,967 --> 00:39:06,433 FOR DETECTIVE CLINE, 713 00:39:06,433 --> 00:39:09,400 THIS WAS THE STRANGEST THING HE HAD EVER HEARD. 714 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:13,467 HOWEVER, IT ANSWERS ALL THE QUESTIONS. 715 00:39:13,467 --> 00:39:17,500 Kilgariff: WHEN THE STORY HITS THE PRESS, IT'S SENSATIONAL. 716 00:39:17,500 --> 00:39:19,467 THEY WERE CALLING HIM ATTIC LOVER, 717 00:39:19,467 --> 00:39:22,133 THE GHOST IN THE GARRET, THE PHANTOM. 718 00:39:22,133 --> 00:39:25,500 THE NICKNAME THAT REALLY STUCK WAS BAT MAN 719 00:39:25,500 --> 00:39:30,133 BECAUSE OTTO WAS LIKE A BAT IN HER ATTIC. 720 00:39:30,133 --> 00:39:32,067 Gibson: OTTO WAS CONVICTED OF MANSLAUGHTER. 721 00:39:32,067 --> 00:39:34,800 BUT THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS ON MANSLAUGHTER 722 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,367 IN CALIFORNIA AT THE TIME WAS THREE YEARS. 723 00:39:37,367 --> 00:39:40,233 WE ARE NOW EIGHT YEARS PAST THE MURDER. 724 00:39:40,233 --> 00:39:44,367 BECAUSE OF THAT, OTTO WALKED AWAY. 725 00:39:44,367 --> 00:39:45,567 DOLLY GOES ON TRIAL. 726 00:39:45,567 --> 00:39:47,167 AND HER LAWYER SAYS 727 00:39:47,167 --> 00:39:49,267 THAT THE MOST THAT SHE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR 728 00:39:49,267 --> 00:39:50,333 IS HAVING AN AFFAIR, 729 00:39:50,333 --> 00:39:51,933 THAT WHATEVER HAPPENED BETWEEN 730 00:39:51,933 --> 00:39:55,067 OTTO AND FRED HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HER. 731 00:39:55,067 --> 00:39:57,067 THE CASE ENDED IN A HUNG JURY. 732 00:39:57,067 --> 00:39:59,067 THE D.A. AT THE TIME SAID, 733 00:39:59,067 --> 00:40:00,733 "NO, WE DON'T WANNA DO THIS ANYMORE." 734 00:40:00,733 --> 00:40:03,233 AND DOLLY WALKED FREE. 735 00:40:06,867 --> 00:40:11,433 WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT DOLLY IS LIVING IN A DIFFICULT TIME. 736 00:40:11,433 --> 00:40:14,667 WOMEN DON'T HAVE A LOTTA LEGAL RIGHTS. 737 00:40:14,667 --> 00:40:16,667 AND THEY ONLY JUST GOT THE RIGHT TO VOTE. 738 00:40:16,667 --> 00:40:20,467 IT WAS THEIR ABILITY TO INFLUENCE THE MEN IN THEIR LIVES 739 00:40:20,467 --> 00:40:23,667 THAT GAVE THEM ANY POWER THAT THEY HAD. 740 00:40:23,667 --> 00:40:26,967 AND DOLLY WAS PRETTY GOOD AT IT. 741 00:40:26,967 --> 00:40:29,033 Kilgariff: I THINK I AM JEALOUS OF HER A LITTLE BIT. 742 00:40:29,033 --> 00:40:31,800 DOLLY WASN'T A BEAUTY QUEEN. 743 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,900 AND YET SHE HAS MANIPULATED 744 00:40:33,900 --> 00:40:37,500 ALL THESE MEN TO KIND OF DO HER BIDDING. 745 00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:42,233 Gibson: SHE GOT A WEALTHY MAN TO MARRY HER. 746 00:40:42,233 --> 00:40:47,533 SHE GOT OTTO TO STAY IN HER ATTIC FOR 14 YEARS. 747 00:40:47,533 --> 00:40:52,600 SHE GOT KLUM TO THROW AWAY THE GUN FOR HER. 748 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,367 SHE GOT SHAPIRO TO KEEP HER SECRETS. 749 00:40:55,367 --> 00:40:59,867 DOLLY CERTAINLY HAD A -- A POWER OVER MEN. 750 00:40:59,867 --> 00:41:02,467 HOW ABOUT A DAME LIKE THAT? 751 00:41:02,467 --> 00:41:05,967 BUT YOU CAN'T SAY DOLLY WAS GOOD. 752 00:41:05,967 --> 00:41:07,733 SHE SAW SOMETHING SHE WANTED 753 00:41:07,733 --> 00:41:11,300 AND SHE TOOK IT, CONSEQUENCES BE DAMNED. 754 00:41:11,300 --> 00:41:14,433 NOW THAT'S A REAL TWIST. 755 00:41:14,433 --> 00:41:20,667 BUT I SURE WOULDN'T CALL THIS A HAPPY ENDING. 756 00:41:20,667 --> 00:41:22,200 Johnston: IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER 757 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:26,833 THAT THESE ARE THREE UNHAPPY PEOPLE. 758 00:41:26,833 --> 00:41:30,167 AND THE SITUATION IS PRETTY TRAGIC. 759 00:41:30,167 --> 00:41:32,067 DOLLY LOST HER SON. 760 00:41:32,067 --> 00:41:34,667 FRED LOSES HIS LIFE. 761 00:41:34,667 --> 00:41:38,100 OTTO LOSES 20 YEARS LIVING IN AN ATTIC. 762 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,567 SO NOBODY REALLY WINS HERE. 763 00:41:43,567 --> 00:41:47,533 * AND I'D LIKE TO BE YOUR SISTER, BROTHER, DAD * 764 00:41:47,533 --> 00:41:49,367 * AND MOTHER TOO * 765 00:41:49,367 --> 00:41:52,233 * PRETTY BABY * 766 00:41:52,233 --> 00:41:54,533 * PRETTY BABY * 767 00:41:54,533 --> 00:41:57,667 * WON'T YOU COME AND LET ME ROCK YOU * 768 00:41:57,667 --> 00:42:00,967 * IN MY CRADLE OF LOVE * 769 00:42:00,967 --> 00:42:05,967 * WE'LL CUDDLE ALL THE TIME * 770 00:42:05,967 --> 00:42:09,067 * OH, I WANT A LOVING BABY * 771 00:42:09,067 --> 00:42:13,267 * AND IT MIGHT AS WELL BE YOU * 772 00:42:13,267 --> 00:42:18,333 * PRETTY BABY OF MINE * 773 00:42:18,333 --> 00:42:23,067 * PRETTY BABY OF MINE * 774 00:42:23,117 --> 00:42:27,667 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 56763

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