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And now
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let's talk about timing, how we slow down
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and speed up shots to control
rhythm in la la land.
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We do this smash cut into.
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A party scene.
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We establish the season again
and the season is something that is
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very important or was very important
to Damien in terms of telling his story.
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He saw this as different chapters
in different seasons,
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and he wanted to set that up
because he wanted
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to create a bunch of cycles
that the audience would get used to.
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So in the very beginning we start,
if you remember, we start with winter
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when the camera pans down to see
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the traffic jam, it's winter.
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Then we go through the other seasons,
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we go through spring, we go through fall
and we go through winter.
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And the hope was that
by creating this cycle with these titles,
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that we would create a certain
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amount of
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expectation with the audience
and by creating expectations.
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Damien's hope
was that he could do something unexpected.
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So later in the story,
this comes into play
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when we come back to winter,
but it's something very different.
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And again,
this was a scene that relied on.
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The beginning of it,
the relying on a long,
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unbroken take.
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But one that we ended up
having to manipulate.
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We knew we had to manipulate the speed
of it in order to hit certain beats.
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So somewhere in here,
we put a little slow down.
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We slowed the image down.
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And again, this is because the way Damien
designed the film, we had to find ways
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to compress and expand time,
but we couldn't do it
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with the editing for the most part,
or often we had to do it within shots.
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And this at the time out a
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certain way because there was
a prerecorded song and certain moments
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had to be in sync at the exact moment
Damian wanted in the song.
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So that's why it was necessary
for us to play around
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with the speed of the image.
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The Shot, for example,
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is playing at a different speed,
was not playing at 24 friends.
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We had to slow it down
to get enough of the look we wanted
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from Emma Stone.
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And again,
this is a scene that's very reliant
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on the faces of these movie
stars, the faces of
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Ryan Gosling and Emma Stone.
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And without those faces,
you don't really have a scene.
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And this was actually quite challenging
to get the timing
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the way Damien wanted because the camera
was moving in on both Ryan Gosling.
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And separately moving in on Emma Stone.
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And in some cases
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we had to add some pushes digitally.
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I added some zooms on
some of the shots like on me a little bit
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to make them match a little bit better.
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But it was
it was actually very challenging to get
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all the looks we wanted in here because
sometimes the action was happening.
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Overlapping was.
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There was something that Emma Stone
was doing that we really loved,
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but we needed to cut to Ryan
at a certain point and vice versa.
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So it was very hard
to get all the pieces we wanted in
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and we were able to do that.
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By manipulating
some of the speeds of some of the shots
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and here Damian wanted a very hard cut
no pre lap
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just we play around with hard cuts
we play around pre laps.
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This was something that just felt best
to do a time cut, a clean time cut.
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And we did that musically.
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It was important to Damien to set up
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Ryan Gosling looking as silly as possible.
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So he's wearing this, this crazy
red outfit, something very different
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from sometimes what you see him
wearing in the rest of the movie.
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Wearing these silly glasses and looking
kind of kind of kind of silly to,
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you know, to help set up the
the conversation they're about to have.
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And for this sequence,
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it was very important to cut it,
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have the pace of it be somewhat quick.
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Damien really wanted to have it.
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The conversation
feel very biting and very cutting,
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and he wanted it to feel that way
with the dialog, with the performance,
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but he wanted it to feel that way
a little bit with the editing,
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and it's part of him doing that.
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Whereas if we cut faster back and forth
between these two.
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Two of the same angles,
you'd really feel it a little bit more.
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And the idea
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is he wanted you to feel some of the cuts,
at least in a subtle way.
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So you would you would feel that there was
something that wasn't smooth about this.
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There was it wasn't
it wasn't seamless or invisible
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or very different from the storytelling
that's in other parts of the stories
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which where the storytelling is through
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smooth kind of camera moves.
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We do come in here
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to play off, play this little move here.
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But again, we quickly
go back into singles, back and forth,
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answering each other.
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And part of this is also because Damian.
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Damian
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is a director who loves
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beautiful frames.
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He loves little details.
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So this little butterfly
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flying in the background,
Damien wanted to feature that.
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And I thought that was a good
point to break things up.
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This is a point
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where when the other band member comes in.
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It's something another again.
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Sound plays a key factor in this,
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where Damien really wanted to hear
the sound of the guy hitting his chest.
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He wanted it to sound like
Ryan was being attacked almost.
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You really wanted it to be offensive.
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I mean, all the way up there, except
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because I don't.
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He doesn't tell me what to do.
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He just told you what I know.
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I let him.
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What's your name, man?
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Yeah.
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I guess I'll see you in the movies.
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Damien.
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Always like this shot of him
putting the glasses back on because
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it really looked like
we had reversed the shot
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because he puts the glasses on
in such an awkward way.
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But that's actually really the way
Ryan Gosling did it.
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And for some reason,
it looks completely wrong.
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It looks like it's backwards,
but it's not me.
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Yeah.
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I'll see you
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would just
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and here's something that's also
very important and something we worked
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really hard on
and very closely with Justin Hurwitz
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and also very closely
with our music editor Jason Ruder.
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The the place where music hits.
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So where this song ends,
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it meant that we had to find an edit
somewhere in here
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so that so that the song would end
the way you hear it.
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I know. I let.
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What's your name?
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Matt.
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Yeah, I guess I'll see you.
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We're just kind of.
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It's important to Damien
that transitions like that
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are perfect, the way he's envisioned them
or the way he's heard them.
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So a music working out like that
has to ring out a certain way on the cut.
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And sometimes we can do that by control
the picture, but a lot of times
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we have to manipulate the music
a certain way.
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And sometimes with
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other filmmakers you can
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get away with cheating the music
a certain way.
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You can make a cut, hide a cut
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in the music somewhere during the scene.
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But with Damien, he is a musician,
so you can't really hide anything.
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You have to
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have the music work musically, and
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so that sometimes that means that I have
to recut the picture in order to follow.
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