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And now
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let's look at the climactic
ending of Whiplash.
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What comes next, which is in the story.
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Andrew has quit drumming the way
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a character might quit, quit taking drugs
or quit drinking.
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It's his addiction, the drumming.
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So he's he's stopped it. He's given it up.
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But he's just been lured back by Fletcher.
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And he's he's considering this.
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And that's when we see him open his closet
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door to his drums, which he has given up.
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He's vowed to give up.
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He's put them away, supposedly forever.
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But now that changes
and he pulls them out again.
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Well, that used to be.
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A longer sequence.
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He used to actually take out the drums.
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We see him here
considering we used to have
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a reverse where we actually push in
and we see the drums.
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We had a whole sequence of Andrew building
the kit back up again.
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We also had a scene where he sits
at the drum kit and he actually starts
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rehearsing and Damian shot
that and we cut that and we had that.
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And that scene of him rehearsing
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in his own room actually transitioned
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to rehearsing with Fletcher
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and with other musicians at Carnegie Hall.
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Fletcher leaves and says,
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Good job to Andrew, which in the
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story we've established is.
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It's an insult.
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And Fletcher's talked about this
with Andrew.
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And so the scene was meant to make you
as an audience member, feel uneasy.
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Andrew's accepted the job
he's going to play,
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but Fletcher's being misleading
is being confusing.
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Is he playing mind games?
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So it was intended to sound to Tim
to make you feel uncomfortable.
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Well, at this point in the story,
it just seemed to make more sense
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to get to the end of the story.
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And so we did a lot of compressing here.
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And because of the style
we had set up earlier with the inserts
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and with certain types of transitions.
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We felt that we could actually use
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some shorthand
to cut through these moments.
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And we also felt it very important
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to save the drumming for the end
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because there's going to be
a lot of drumming at the end.
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So we didn't feel that it was necessary
to see him starting to
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practice or rehearse.
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We pre lap it's Andrew the phone call.
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Oh. Hey.
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Where?
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Miles Teller in law
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calls.
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I talked to Nicole.
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Who? He.
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Earlier broke up with Anna in a terrible,
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very cruel way.
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And now he has some second thoughts.
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He tries to connect with her again.
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I know.
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As I tried to check on my boyfriend.
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So this is
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a great example of
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trying to make every cut count.
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And this is a scene
where Damian wanted to stay on
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the single shot of Miles Teller.
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Walking through the room,
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walking through the space.
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Disappearing in the frame.
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Stay with the frame.
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And then at the appropriate moment,
that's when you cut in.
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You don't cut in earlier.
You don't cut it later.
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You wait for that line.
You wait for that line where she says,
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Oh, I basically I don't
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know if I can come because
I'd have to check with my boyfriend.
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That's a line
that you want to have impact.
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That's emotional.
That's the place where you make your cut.
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That's where you punch in.
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I'd like to check with my boyfriend.
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Ban that has impact.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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Now you've put the cut in the right place.
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Now you can hang on this shot.
Just hang in his face.
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Let his performance
carry the rest of it for money.
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Okay.
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Well, I guess they are.
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And what came after this?
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Was a lengthier scene of Andrew
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getting ready to go to this concert.
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There was more material of Miles Teller
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getting ready, getting dressed,
and what we used to have,
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and this is based on Damien's
original script
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we used to cross-cut Intercut.
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Andrew
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Getting ready for the concert and Fletcher
getting ready to the concert.
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And that's because earlier in the movie.
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We used to parallel
cut their stories more.
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There were more elements to Fletcher's
story.
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More details, I should say.
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We see Fletcher at home eating alone.
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It was more color for the character.
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Well, in our goal, to make Fletcher
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more mysterious, we removed a lot of those
beautiful moments.
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There were beautiful moments
performed by J.K. Simmons.
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J.K. Simmons writing alone on the subway
in New York City,
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him in his apartment alone,
all these great little character details.
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Well, it didn't serve what we wanted to
do, which was to make
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the character of Fletcher scarier,
more intimidating.
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The best way to do
that was to make it more mysterious.
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So we removed earlier scenes in the movie,
and we remove this section,
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this interchange,
which used to show Andrew getting ready
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more going out onto the street
in New York, intercut
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with Fletcher,
actually walking in the street,
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walking down into the New York City subway
and and then approaching Carnegie Hall.
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We used to see Andrew approach
Carnegie Hall and he saw Fletcher.
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He sees Fletcher go inside
Carnegie Hall first.
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And so there was a time in the script
and in the cut
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where we wanted to play with that.
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But by this point, less is more.
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And so we're able to just
use these inserts to tell our story.
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These inserts are the glue that holds
the previous scene and the next
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scene together.
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And we could do
that because we've established a language
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with these closeups, these details,
these inserts, the Band-Aids.
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And with the zip,
that's that always makes a good cut
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because there's a nice edge to it.
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And now you've.
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You can now you can earn this wide shot
to establish
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where this concert's being taking place.
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This scene is really
the reason he wanted to make the movie.
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He wanted to to show this battle
between the two characters.
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A battle with music being the weapon and.
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It really was the reason
he made the movie.
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He was not afraid to really commit to it.
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And it's a very long sequence.
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It used to be longer.
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But Damien always said
that he would rather
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the scene be excessive,
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then be shorter and forgotten.
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So he really was committed to this scene
storyboards.
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He had animatics that he had created
a very primitive
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sort of animatic set to a musical track.
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He had put it together himself
with these crude storyboards he drew.
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He put them in the final cut
pro and made this, um, this
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rough plan for this sequence.
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And so I use that as my template
when I got the footage,
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when the footage came in.
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I cut it really to try to match
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as best I could.
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The way he had mapped it out.
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This scene here.
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Where his father.
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Greets him.
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This used to be a more complicated scene.
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His father greets him
and basically said, Let's go home.
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And what happened
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in the original script
and the way they shot it?
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These two security guards approach
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and they interrupt this scene
between the father and the son
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and and they say, excuse me,
you're not supposed to be back here
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talking to the father.
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And they look at Andrew and they said,
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Is this man with you?
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And Andrew takes a moment of beat.
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And he looks at his father who says,
Come on, son, you're done.
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Let's go home.
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And he says to the guards, No, he's not.
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And then he turns around and walks
back out.
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It really was was just
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it was just too much and it was too long.
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And again, we found less is more.
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You know,
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the moment between the father
and son seem like it would be enough.
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So the first thing we did
was we cut out the other characters,
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we cut out the security guards,
cut out the men who came into the frame.
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And then the next thing we needed to do
was just
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come up with a line of dialog
that would motivate Miles Teller
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to change his mind
after he's left the stage,
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after he's been humiliated,
what makes him go back on stage?
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So we tried to come up with.
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A line that would really motivate
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Andrew to change his mind
and walk back out to face.
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Fletcher.
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And we tried so many different things
and we thought we had it easy
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because we were on the dad's back
so we could cheat a line of dialog.
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And so we had his father say,
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Good Job, which was based on
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what Fletcher said earlier, was an insult.
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We had him say, You're done here.
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We had him say a whole bunch of things to
to motivate him turning around.
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And they all were terrible.
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They all seemed to specific.
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The more specifically specific
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we got with the line, the less credible
it seemed emotionally.
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And so basically we ended up taking out
all the dialog entirely.
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And so what you have here
is purely based on looks
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and purely
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cinematic.
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We hope.
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But you know.
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So he doesn't need to say anything.
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So you just see that.
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You see the looks.
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And this is the power of suggestion.
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The power of juxtaposition.
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You assume that there's something inside
Andrew.
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The changes
he decides he makes a decision.
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You don't hear the decision.
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There is no decision.
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But you as an audience member
come to that conclusion.
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But you could even see him.
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When he turns, you can even see him
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looking at one of the security guards.
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I didn't know.
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For this.
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Damien really wanted this to feel like
Anders made the decision
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to go out in a blaze of gunfire.
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Almost like the end of the Wild Bunch,
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the Western by Sam Peckinpah,
which ends in a bloodbath.
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So this is where all this scene is,
where all the all the rhythms,
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all the inserts, all the fast cuts,
all the muscularity.
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This is the place where
all of what we've introduced before
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is going to come into play here.
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And this is where.
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Speed is your friend.
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This is where
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jarring cuts are your friend.
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This is where you try to play
every trick in the book.
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And also they're very short shots.
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As are many shots in the scene.
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So we got away with a lot of manipulation
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in that way in this scene
when we needed to.
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But again,
always at the service of the story
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of the moment.
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And you know,
when we followed the animatic,
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the boards for the scene.
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What we realized
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was that the scene played fast.
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And this is adding a an avid zoom, a push.
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In that shot, we found that
when we played this, it had no soul.
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It was not organic.
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It felt mechanical
when we just matched the animatics.
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And the thing that really started to make
this scene play
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was when we went through
Damian and I went through and looked
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for all of the best performance pieces,
all the great faces and looks
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that we could find
from Miles Teller and Fletcher.
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And that goes back to something
I've I've touched on and talked about
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that I think is really important,
at least in terms of what I believe.
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I feel like great action scenes
that I get invested in
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are heavily
reliant on the performances of the actor.
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They're heavily character based.
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So Damien and I spoke about scenes
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that we admired, scenes
like boxing scenes from Raging Bull.
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We spoke about the famous car
chase in the movie The French Connection.
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And what is key about a movie
like in a scene like the car chase
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in the French Connection
is that there is amazing.
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Pyrotechnics there.
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That is to say, there's amazing
stunt work.
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There's amazing car work in it. But.
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What really gives a scene like that
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value is the face of the character
in the scene.
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In that case, the actor Gene Hackman.
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And half of that scene is Gene
Hackman space.
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His performance, a performance
which he won an Academy Award for.
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And without that face,
without that performance,
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you have something that really does
not function organically.
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You don't have a scene that is emotional.
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You have something forgettable
when you have the right performance in it.
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It makes it timeless.
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So we really considered that and thought
a lot about that for this scene,
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because Damien is so brilliant
at shooting great shots,
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moving shots, shots
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that are muscular and virtuosic,
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but they really have no value
if the scene is not about the characters.
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So we spent.
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A lot of time.
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Most of our time.
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Most of our time.
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Teeing up
these looks between the two characters
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looking back and forth,
most of the picture of Miles Teller
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drumming is Miles Teller in the picture
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actually drumming.
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So Damian did a great job of teeing up.
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Certain.
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Camera moves.
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And like such as this.
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Such as teeing up this move.
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Which we always knew
we would tie up with pieces.
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So that's why you do a punch in a cut in
like this on this.
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On this trumpet.
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Because you want to
then be able to stay in the shot.
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And again, all about the looks.
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This has no value without the looks.
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So we had an abundance
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of beautiful shots
that we could go to, which Damian planned
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very meticulously plan to go to this pan
or this or this move.
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That's something that a lot of that
was pre-planned.
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But where exactly we made the cut
and what frame and how it was surrounded
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by performance is just something Damian
and I found together in the editing room.
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But he also, again,
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looks extremely important.
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Not only do
we have to have the two characters
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relate to each other
and look for those moments.
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And those moments were not always clear.
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We had to scrub through
all the performances to find a look here.
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Look up there. And and. And
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a look there.
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But it was also really important to
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show both characters
and their character arcs.
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In the case of J.K.
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Simmons, in the case of Fletcher,
he needed to start in a place of anger
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because his band was being hijacked,
his concert was being hijacked,
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and he had to go to a place of of approval
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because he likes
he starts to like hearing.
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He starts to like what he's hearing.
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And in the case of Andrew,
he had to go from a place of anger
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and wanting to fight back
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to a place where he becomes transcendent,
where he becomes
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the drummer
that he's always dreamt of becoming.
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He becomes he becomes one of the greats.
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So it was really important
through their faces
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to track that performance and to clock in
at the right moments to show that.
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And these insert shots.
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Damian again shot
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a whole day of insert photography.
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That we knew
we would only use tiny pieces of.
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Sometimes these overhead drum shots.
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I would flip the screen directions.
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So sometimes he's facing one way.
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Sometimes he's facing another way,
depending on how things cut together.
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Something that played heavily
into the cutting of the sequence
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were shots that answered one another.
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If we had a shot where something was going
in one screen direction,
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we would try to answer it with something
going in the other screen direction.
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That's something
that was important to Damian.
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That's something that touches on
the Russian filmmaker from the Silent Era.
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Sergei Eisenstein.
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Sergei Eisenstein
always believed in, in, in editing,
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being visible,
cutting things so that there would be
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conflict, so that you
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would have one image facing one direction,
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and then you would smash against an image
going in the other direction.
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This right here, these pans
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Damien did do in camera,
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but we mixed and matched different takes.
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We had cuts within the pans
or right before the pans.
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So there's different performances.
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We picked out the best pieces,
the pieces we thought were the best. And.
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This is what I'm talking about
with different cuts
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at right angles and different angles
colliding. So.
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Having having a wide to a wide
is not something you would normally do.
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But for Damien that's part of it
because you feel the rhythm.
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This shot, we wanted to last a little bit
longer, so I rolled it in reverse.
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I tried to hide that.
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I could kind of get away with it
because Miles Teller looks kind of funny.
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What he's doing is making a crazy face
and he's doing this crazy drumming.
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I tried to hide it by adding a little push
on it, a little zoom, so it feels like
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the shot is continuing to move forward.
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And this shot coming up here,
a little punctuation with a wide shot.
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This shot used to not really be as wide.
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I reduce this shot in the frame
and we made sure to
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to feather it out with black.
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So it truly feel like an epic place.
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You'd feel like
the camera was much higher up
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than they were actually capable of doing.
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Again, this was a point where.
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Damian really wanted to.
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Commit to this section.
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Which.
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Uh, there were some people,
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some,
some people who we screened the movie
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for who actually really always pushed us
to make this scene shorter.
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And this scene in particular, this
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this part of the scene in particular.
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But Damien really wanted to.
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Commit to it and hold it, hold it.
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Hold it extra long
so it would become less clear.
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What the outcome was going to be,
in other words.
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Is he actually going
to have a heart attack?
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Is he going to die?
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These were questions Damien wanted
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the audience to maybe think about.
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This is a shot that started
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slow as a shot that I sped up.
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And sped up and sped up.
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As we go from slow motion to fast motion.
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Same with this.
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And this this is, again, another thing
performance
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you can hold on this actor's face
Paul Reiser
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to really see.
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If you hold on onto something long enough,
you invest in it and it has a new value.
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When you first see his reaction,
the father's reaction,
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you see that there's something that is
that he's shocked.
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When you stay on something,
you reinvest in the image
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and sometimes
have you get a different meaning from it.
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And we will soon get into a very simple,
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uh, cutting pattern with,
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uh, very simple elements.
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You tee it up with this overhead
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shot of the drums.
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And the goal is to get to this shot,
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which will be the key element.
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This shot always looks.
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These shots were
actually challenging because
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these are the hands of a drum double.
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Playing to a prerecorded track.
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So the prerecorded track was done
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by another drummer,
a jazz drummer, professional jazz drummer.
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So the audio was playing an on set,
a drum double
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not miles
teller tried to match the drum playing.
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While the slower the drumming gets,
the harder that is to match the sync.
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And if there's one thing
that really had to be right for Damian,
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it was the sync of all the drums,
the synchronization.
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It's.
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So the drum double got it very close.
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But even the drum double couldn't
get it perfect.
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So that's something
I had to work on in the edit.
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And I did that.
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It was you, actually.
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I couldn't speed it up or slow it down too
much because that wasn't precise enough.
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So with jump cuts,
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I was able to line up every single hit
so that it would be in sync.
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So when we cut to the drums,
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there are jump cuts within there
to match the sync of every drum hit.
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But thematically,
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we're going back to the beginning
of the movie where you hear this same
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drumming.
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You begin the movie with this
and you end the movie
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with this.
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But it's all about the
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to the looks, the performances
and that shot of the drums.
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Now this moment
where we're Miles Teller is going crazy.
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We really wanted to show and illustrate
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how virtuosic and how animal like.
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This moment is where he's going crazy.
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So we cut to this wide shot where you can
really see him going nuts, going crazy.
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We overlapped
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three tracks of this
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of this drum flurry, of this drum
playing to make it sound more complicated.
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So what you're actually hearing
is physically impossible.
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And here you're going to
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tie up with a flurry of muscular
cuts, short cuts
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you're going to with energy,
you're going to tee up and allow for
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make room for
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a very key moment in this scene,
which is the looks between
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Fletcher and Andrew,
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the looks that tell you that.
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If you're familiar with the story
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that Andrew has become
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the next buddy Rich, his idol
and that Fletcher in turn
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has found his Charlie Parker,
which is what his life goal was.
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And that is presented through the looks
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that tell you that they've they've
they've worked together.
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And through this synthesis,
this chemical reaction,
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they've both reached a place of greatness.
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But you tee that up by these cuts here.
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And those moments.
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With the blood dripping.
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Ah, hopefully
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will make you think of everything
that's come before all the pain
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and all the energy
and all the sacrifices that
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that this character
and her had to make to get to this point.
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But now he's gotten to a point,
a different level
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that he is inspired to get to.
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And now we have the looks.
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As important
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as any of the other cuts in the movie.
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The smile.
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And important that we cut out that we
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that we are wide enough to see this smile.
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And there's something
that Damien loved about this because
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there's something dark about it, because.
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And that's why
I think it's key to have the smile.
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Because this.
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Tells the audience.
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The smile on his face.
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The grammar of that tells the audience
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that this is a happy ending,
which in some ways it is.
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He's achieved his goal, but in other ways
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it's it's a dark, dark ending
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because he's become something
he sacrificed to become something
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that is not simply something good.
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And the cut to black
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inspired by the cut
to Black from the short film.
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So we've come kind
of full circle in that way.
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