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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:17,200 And now 2 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,400 let's look at the climactic ending of Whiplash. 3 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,360 What comes next, which is in the story. 4 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,720 Andrew has quit drumming the way 5 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,240 a character might quit, quit taking drugs or quit drinking. 6 00:00:33,160 --> 00:00:35,360 It's his addiction, the drumming. 7 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,400 So he's he's stopped it. He's given it up. 8 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,480 But he's just been lured back by Fletcher. 9 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,560 And he's he's considering this. 10 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,520 And that's when we see him open his closet 11 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,280 door to his drums, which he has given up. 12 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:52,840 He's vowed to give up. 13 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,880 He's put them away, supposedly forever. 14 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,800 But now that changes and he pulls them out again. 15 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,400 Well, that used to be. 16 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:04,480 A longer sequence. 17 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,440 He used to actually take out the drums. 18 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,480 We see him here considering we used to have 19 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,960 a reverse where we actually push in and we see the drums. 20 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,240 We had a whole sequence of Andrew building the kit back up again. 21 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,960 We also had a scene where he sits at the drum kit and he actually starts 22 00:01:23,960 --> 00:01:27,880 rehearsing and Damian shot that and we cut that and we had that. 23 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,480 And that scene of him rehearsing 24 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,600 in his own room actually transitioned 25 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,680 to rehearsing with Fletcher 26 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,720 and with other musicians at Carnegie Hall. 27 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,600 Fletcher leaves and says, 28 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,840 Good job to Andrew, which in the 29 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,160 story we've established is. 30 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,240 It's an insult. 31 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,640 And Fletcher's talked about this with Andrew. 32 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:03,960 And so the scene was meant to make you as an audience member, feel uneasy. 33 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,880 Andrew's accepted the job he's going to play, 34 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,280 but Fletcher's being misleading is being confusing. 35 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,080 Is he playing mind games? 36 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:18,800 So it was intended to sound to Tim to make you feel uncomfortable. 37 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,960 Well, at this point in the story, it just seemed to make more sense 38 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,600 to get to the end of the story. 39 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,480 And so we did a lot of compressing here. 40 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,840 And because of the style we had set up earlier with the inserts 41 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,600 and with certain types of transitions. 42 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,800 We felt that we could actually use 43 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,200 some shorthand to cut through these moments. 44 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,800 And we also felt it very important 45 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,000 to save the drumming for the end 46 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,040 because there's going to be a lot of drumming at the end. 47 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,600 So we didn't feel that it was necessary to see him starting to 48 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,320 practice or rehearse. 49 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,000 We pre lap it's Andrew the phone call. 50 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,440 Oh. Hey. 51 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:06,760 Where? 52 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,800 Miles Teller in law 53 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,160 calls. 54 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,000 I talked to Nicole. 55 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,320 Who? He. 56 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,400 Earlier broke up with Anna in a terrible, 57 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,960 very cruel way. 58 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,360 And now he has some second thoughts. 59 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,640 He tries to connect with her again. 60 00:03:27,640 --> 00:03:29,360 I know. 61 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,400 As I tried to check on my boyfriend. 62 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,840 So this is 63 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,480 a great example of 64 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,560 trying to make every cut count. 65 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,480 And this is a scene where Damian wanted to stay on 66 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,920 the single shot of Miles Teller. 67 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,000 Walking through the room, 68 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,360 walking through the space. 69 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,280 Disappearing in the frame. 70 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,440 Stay with the frame. 71 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,640 And then at the appropriate moment, that's when you cut in. 72 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,560 You don't cut in earlier. You don't cut it later. 73 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,360 You wait for that line. You wait for that line where she says, 74 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:10,600 Oh, I basically I don't 75 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,440 know if I can come because I'd have to check with my boyfriend. 76 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,520 That's a line that you want to have impact. 77 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,280 That's emotional. That's the place where you make your cut. 78 00:04:18,280 --> 00:04:19,840 That's where you punch in. 79 00:04:19,840 --> 00:04:22,800 I'd like to check with my boyfriend. 80 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,560 Ban that has impact. 81 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:27,360 Okay. 82 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:28,800 Yeah. 83 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:32,920 Now you've put the cut in the right place. 84 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,160 Now you can hang on this shot. Just hang in his face. 85 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,680 Let his performance carry the rest of it for money. 86 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:42,040 Okay. 87 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,320 Well, I guess they are. 88 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,880 And what came after this? 89 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,760 Was a lengthier scene of Andrew 90 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,480 getting ready to go to this concert. 91 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,480 There was more material of Miles Teller 92 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:03,320 getting ready, getting dressed, and what we used to have, 93 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,720 and this is based on Damien's original script 94 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,880 we used to cross-cut Intercut. 95 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:11,760 Andrew 96 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,520 Getting ready for the concert and Fletcher getting ready to the concert. 97 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,640 And that's because earlier in the movie. 98 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,360 We used to parallel cut their stories more. 99 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,960 There were more elements to Fletcher's story. 100 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,320 More details, I should say. 101 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,880 We see Fletcher at home eating alone. 102 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,480 It was more color for the character. 103 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,480 Well, in our goal, to make Fletcher 104 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,400 more mysterious, we removed a lot of those beautiful moments. 105 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,880 There were beautiful moments performed by J.K. Simmons. 106 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,000 J.K. Simmons writing alone on the subway in New York City, 107 00:05:48,280 --> 00:05:52,640 him in his apartment alone, all these great little character details. 108 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,080 Well, it didn't serve what we wanted to do, which was to make 109 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,360 the character of Fletcher scarier, more intimidating. 110 00:05:59,840 --> 00:06:02,520 The best way to do that was to make it more mysterious. 111 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:07,880 So we removed earlier scenes in the movie, and we remove this section, 112 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:12,320 this interchange, which used to show Andrew getting ready 113 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:16,360 more going out onto the street in New York, intercut 114 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,280 with Fletcher, actually walking in the street, 115 00:06:20,280 --> 00:06:26,240 walking down into the New York City subway and and then approaching Carnegie Hall. 116 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:31,520 We used to see Andrew approach Carnegie Hall and he saw Fletcher. 117 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,960 He sees Fletcher go inside Carnegie Hall first. 118 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,200 And so there was a time in the script and in the cut 119 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:39,840 where we wanted to play with that. 120 00:06:39,840 --> 00:06:41,880 But by this point, less is more. 121 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,920 And so we're able to just use these inserts to tell our story. 122 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,880 These inserts are the glue that holds the previous scene and the next 123 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:50,640 scene together. 124 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,640 And we could do that because we've established a language 125 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,440 with these closeups, these details, these inserts, the Band-Aids. 126 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,920 And with the zip, that's that always makes a good cut 127 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,720 because there's a nice edge to it. 128 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:28,720 And now you've. 129 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,520 You can now you can earn this wide shot to establish 130 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,760 where this concert's being taking place. 131 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,200 This scene is really the reason he wanted to make the movie. 132 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,080 He wanted to to show this battle between the two characters. 133 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,000 A battle with music being the weapon and. 134 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,080 It really was the reason he made the movie. 135 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:53,440 He was not afraid to really commit to it. 136 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,840 And it's a very long sequence. 137 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,360 It used to be longer. 138 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,520 But Damien always said that he would rather 139 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,520 the scene be excessive, 140 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,080 then be shorter and forgotten. 141 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:13,600 So he really was committed to this scene storyboards. 142 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,280 He had animatics that he had created a very primitive 143 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,960 sort of animatic set to a musical track. 144 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:24,360 He had put it together himself with these crude storyboards he drew. 145 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,800 He put them in the final cut pro and made this, um, this 146 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,520 rough plan for this sequence. 147 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:38,440 And so I use that as my template when I got the footage, 148 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,720 when the footage came in. 149 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,800 I cut it really to try to match 150 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,200 as best I could. 151 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,360 The way he had mapped it out. 152 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,400 This scene here. 153 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,240 Where his father. 154 00:08:57,560 --> 00:08:58,520 Greets him. 155 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,280 This used to be a more complicated scene. 156 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,640 His father greets him and basically said, Let's go home. 157 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,000 And what happened 158 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,080 in the original script and the way they shot it? 159 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,720 These two security guards approach 160 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:20,000 and they interrupt this scene between the father and the son 161 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,680 and and they say, excuse me, you're not supposed to be back here 162 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:25,320 talking to the father. 163 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,040 And they look at Andrew and they said, 164 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,080 Is this man with you? 165 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,880 And Andrew takes a moment of beat. 166 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,360 And he looks at his father who says, Come on, son, you're done. 167 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:39,520 Let's go home. 168 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,520 And he says to the guards, No, he's not. 169 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,000 And then he turns around and walks back out. 170 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,760 It really was was just 171 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,440 it was just too much and it was too long. 172 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,240 And again, we found less is more. 173 00:09:56,560 --> 00:09:57,440 You know, 174 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,640 the moment between the father and son seem like it would be enough. 175 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:03,800 So the first thing we did was we cut out the other characters, 176 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,640 we cut out the security guards, cut out the men who came into the frame. 177 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:11,360 And then the next thing we needed to do was just 178 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:17,880 come up with a line of dialog that would motivate Miles Teller 179 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,960 to change his mind after he's left the stage, 180 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,680 after he's been humiliated, what makes him go back on stage? 181 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,040 So we tried to come up with. 182 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,200 A line that would really motivate 183 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,240 Andrew to change his mind and walk back out to face. 184 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:36,240 Fletcher. 185 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:40,840 And we tried so many different things and we thought we had it easy 186 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:46,880 because we were on the dad's back so we could cheat a line of dialog. 187 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,840 And so we had his father say, 188 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,280 Good Job, which was based on 189 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,560 what Fletcher said earlier, was an insult. 190 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,880 We had him say, You're done here. 191 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:06,120 We had him say a whole bunch of things to to motivate him turning around. 192 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:07,680 And they all were terrible. 193 00:11:07,680 --> 00:11:09,760 They all seemed to specific. 194 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,640 The more specifically specific 195 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,760 we got with the line, the less credible it seemed emotionally. 196 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,760 And so basically we ended up taking out all the dialog entirely. 197 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,200 And so what you have here is purely based on looks 198 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,320 and purely 199 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:27,880 cinematic. 200 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:28,880 We hope. 201 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:44,360 But you know. 202 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,040 So he doesn't need to say anything. 203 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,120 So you just see that. 204 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:49,280 You see the looks. 205 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,320 And this is the power of suggestion. 206 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,200 The power of juxtaposition. 207 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:59,400 You assume that there's something inside Andrew. 208 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,280 The changes he decides he makes a decision. 209 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:04,400 You don't hear the decision. 210 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:05,280 There is no decision. 211 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:09,200 But you as an audience member come to that conclusion. 212 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,120 But you could even see him. 213 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:16,640 When he turns, you can even see him 214 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,760 looking at one of the security guards. 215 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:24,640 I didn't know. 216 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:29,880 For this. 217 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,920 Damien really wanted this to feel like Anders made the decision 218 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,920 to go out in a blaze of gunfire. 219 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,280 Almost like the end of the Wild Bunch, 220 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:45,160 the Western by Sam Peckinpah, which ends in a bloodbath. 221 00:12:45,560 --> 00:12:49,400 So this is where all this scene is, where all the all the rhythms, 222 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:54,440 all the inserts, all the fast cuts, all the muscularity. 223 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,800 This is the place where all of what we've introduced before 224 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,560 is going to come into play here. 225 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,120 And this is where. 226 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:05,680 Speed is your friend. 227 00:13:05,680 --> 00:13:07,400 This is where 228 00:13:08,680 --> 00:13:11,600 jarring cuts are your friend. 229 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,440 This is where you try to play every trick in the book. 230 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,680 And also they're very short shots. 231 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,560 As are many shots in the scene. 232 00:13:27,560 --> 00:13:30,520 So we got away with a lot of manipulation 233 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,640 in that way in this scene when we needed to. 234 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,840 But again, always at the service of the story 235 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:36,960 of the moment. 236 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,440 And you know, when we followed the animatic, 237 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,760 the boards for the scene. 238 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:52,560 What we realized 239 00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:56,520 was that the scene played fast. 240 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:02,320 And this is adding a an avid zoom, a push. 241 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:07,640 In that shot, we found that when we played this, it had no soul. 242 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,320 It was not organic. 243 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,320 It felt mechanical when we just matched the animatics. 244 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,560 And the thing that really started to make this scene play 245 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,640 was when we went through Damian and I went through and looked 246 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:26,240 for all of the best performance pieces, all the great faces and looks 247 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:30,320 that we could find from Miles Teller and Fletcher. 248 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,560 And that goes back to something I've I've touched on and talked about 249 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,640 that I think is really important, at least in terms of what I believe. 250 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,880 I feel like great action scenes that I get invested in 251 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,960 are heavily reliant on the performances of the actor. 252 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,080 They're heavily character based. 253 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,240 So Damien and I spoke about scenes 254 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,760 that we admired, scenes like boxing scenes from Raging Bull. 255 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:00,560 We spoke about the famous car chase in the movie The French Connection. 256 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,960 And what is key about a movie like in a scene like the car chase 257 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,400 in the French Connection is that there is amazing. 258 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,000 Pyrotechnics there. 259 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,240 That is to say, there's amazing stunt work. 260 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,560 There's amazing car work in it. But. 261 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,920 What really gives a scene like that 262 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:26,520 value is the face of the character in the scene. 263 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,920 In that case, the actor Gene Hackman. 264 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:34,120 And half of that scene is Gene Hackman space. 265 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:38,120 His performance, a performance which he won an Academy Award for. 266 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,840 And without that face, without that performance, 267 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:47,080 you have something that really does not function organically. 268 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,080 You don't have a scene that is emotional. 269 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,080 You have something forgettable when you have the right performance in it. 270 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:54,600 It makes it timeless. 271 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:59,080 So we really considered that and thought a lot about that for this scene, 272 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:03,840 because Damien is so brilliant at shooting great shots, 273 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:06,960 moving shots, shots 274 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,760 that are muscular and virtuosic, 275 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,520 but they really have no value if the scene is not about the characters. 276 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,200 So we spent. 277 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:18,920 A lot of time. 278 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,040 Most of our time. 279 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,320 Most of our time. 280 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,080 Teeing up these looks between the two characters 281 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,520 looking back and forth, most of the picture of Miles Teller 282 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,440 drumming is Miles Teller in the picture 283 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,760 actually drumming. 284 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,560 So Damian did a great job of teeing up. 285 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:42,440 Certain. 286 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,840 Camera moves. 287 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,200 And like such as this. 288 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,440 Such as teeing up this move. 289 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,440 Which we always knew we would tie up with pieces. 290 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,720 So that's why you do a punch in a cut in like this on this. 291 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,360 On this trumpet. 292 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,560 Because you want to then be able to stay in the shot. 293 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,480 And again, all about the looks. 294 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,400 This has no value without the looks. 295 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:20,760 So we had an abundance 296 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,240 of beautiful shots that we could go to, which Damian planned 297 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:30,040 very meticulously plan to go to this pan or this or this move. 298 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,360 That's something that a lot of that was pre-planned. 299 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:39,480 But where exactly we made the cut and what frame and how it was surrounded 300 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,760 by performance is just something Damian and I found together in the editing room. 301 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,160 But he also, again, 302 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:51,080 looks extremely important. 303 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,200 Not only do we have to have the two characters 304 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,560 relate to each other and look for those moments. 305 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,440 And those moments were not always clear. 306 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:09,120 We had to scrub through all the performances to find a look here. 307 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,080 Look up there. And and. And 308 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:14,640 a look there. 309 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,200 But it was also really important to 310 00:18:18,360 --> 00:18:21,360 show both characters and their character arcs. 311 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,160 In the case of J.K. 312 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,840 Simmons, in the case of Fletcher, he needed to start in a place of anger 313 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:32,280 because his band was being hijacked, his concert was being hijacked, 314 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,080 and he had to go to a place of of approval 315 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,880 because he likes he starts to like hearing. 316 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,520 He starts to like what he's hearing. 317 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,000 And in the case of Andrew, he had to go from a place of anger 318 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,080 and wanting to fight back 319 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:52,360 to a place where he becomes transcendent, where he becomes 320 00:18:53,120 --> 00:18:56,720 the drummer that he's always dreamt of becoming. 321 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,720 He becomes he becomes one of the greats. 322 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,920 So it was really important through their faces 323 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:06,240 to track that performance and to clock in at the right moments to show that. 324 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,280 And these insert shots. 325 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,600 Damian again shot 326 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,760 a whole day of insert photography. 327 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,280 That we knew we would only use tiny pieces of. 328 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,360 Sometimes these overhead drum shots. 329 00:19:28,360 --> 00:19:30,200 I would flip the screen directions. 330 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:31,880 So sometimes he's facing one way. 331 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,360 Sometimes he's facing another way, depending on how things cut together. 332 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,840 Something that played heavily into the cutting of the sequence 333 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,560 were shots that answered one another. 334 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,960 If we had a shot where something was going in one screen direction, 335 00:19:45,120 --> 00:19:48,240 we would try to answer it with something going in the other screen direction. 336 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,520 That's something that was important to Damian. 337 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:55,680 That's something that touches on the Russian filmmaker from the Silent Era. 338 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,080 Sergei Eisenstein. 339 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:02,560 Sergei Eisenstein always believed in, in, in editing, 340 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:06,880 being visible, cutting things so that there would be 341 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:09,400 conflict, so that you 342 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,280 would have one image facing one direction, 343 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,360 and then you would smash against an image going in the other direction. 344 00:20:17,360 --> 00:20:20,120 This right here, these pans 345 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,200 Damien did do in camera, 346 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,360 but we mixed and matched different takes. 347 00:20:26,360 --> 00:20:29,560 We had cuts within the pans or right before the pans. 348 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:31,480 So there's different performances. 349 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:39,320 We picked out the best pieces, the pieces we thought were the best. And. 350 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,680 This is what I'm talking about with different cuts 351 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,120 at right angles and different angles colliding. So. 352 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,720 Having having a wide to a wide is not something you would normally do. 353 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,680 But for Damien that's part of it because you feel the rhythm. 354 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,800 This shot, we wanted to last a little bit longer, so I rolled it in reverse. 355 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,520 I tried to hide that. 356 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,400 I could kind of get away with it because Miles Teller looks kind of funny. 357 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,760 What he's doing is making a crazy face and he's doing this crazy drumming. 358 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,800 I tried to hide it by adding a little push on it, a little zoom, so it feels like 359 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,640 the shot is continuing to move forward. 360 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,600 And this shot coming up here, a little punctuation with a wide shot. 361 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,920 This shot used to not really be as wide. 362 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,960 I reduce this shot in the frame and we made sure to 363 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,400 to feather it out with black. 364 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,000 So it truly feel like an epic place. 365 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,200 You'd feel like the camera was much higher up 366 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:54,040 than they were actually capable of doing. 367 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,240 Again, this was a point where. 368 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,240 Damian really wanted to. 369 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,800 Commit to this section. 370 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,000 Which. 371 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,880 Uh, there were some people, 372 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,080 some, some people who we screened the movie 373 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,800 for who actually really always pushed us to make this scene shorter. 374 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,240 And this scene in particular, this 375 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,640 this part of the scene in particular. 376 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,240 But Damien really wanted to. 377 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,120 Commit to it and hold it, hold it. 378 00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:47,680 Hold it extra long so it would become less clear. 379 00:22:49,120 --> 00:22:51,800 What the outcome was going to be, in other words. 380 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,560 Is he actually going to have a heart attack? 381 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,400 Is he going to die? 382 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,400 These were questions Damien wanted 383 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,680 the audience to maybe think about. 384 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,280 This is a shot that started 385 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,920 slow as a shot that I sped up. 386 00:23:10,120 --> 00:23:12,880 And sped up and sped up. 387 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,680 As we go from slow motion to fast motion. 388 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:16,400 Same with this. 389 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,520 And this this is, again, another thing performance 390 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,120 you can hold on this actor's face Paul Reiser 391 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,080 to really see. 392 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,720 If you hold on onto something long enough, you invest in it and it has a new value. 393 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,640 When you first see his reaction, the father's reaction, 394 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,920 you see that there's something that is that he's shocked. 395 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,520 When you stay on something, you reinvest in the image 396 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,480 and sometimes have you get a different meaning from it. 397 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,760 And we will soon get into a very simple, 398 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,600 uh, cutting pattern with, 399 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,920 uh, very simple elements. 400 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,160 You tee it up with this overhead 401 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,120 shot of the drums. 402 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,560 And the goal is to get to this shot, 403 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,160 which will be the key element. 404 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,040 This shot always looks. 405 00:24:20,360 --> 00:24:23,400 These shots were actually challenging because 406 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,040 these are the hands of a drum double. 407 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,120 Playing to a prerecorded track. 408 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,480 So the prerecorded track was done 409 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,200 by another drummer, a jazz drummer, professional jazz drummer. 410 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,840 So the audio was playing an on set, a drum double 411 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:47,280 not miles teller tried to match the drum playing. 412 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,440 While the slower the drumming gets, the harder that is to match the sync. 413 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,480 And if there's one thing that really had to be right for Damian, 414 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,480 it was the sync of all the drums, the synchronization. 415 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:01,240 It's. 416 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,760 So the drum double got it very close. 417 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,920 But even the drum double couldn't get it perfect. 418 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,040 So that's something I had to work on in the edit. 419 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,280 And I did that. 420 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,160 It was you, actually. 421 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,080 I couldn't speed it up or slow it down too much because that wasn't precise enough. 422 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,920 So with jump cuts, 423 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,920 I was able to line up every single hit so that it would be in sync. 424 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,000 So when we cut to the drums, 425 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,080 there are jump cuts within there to match the sync of every drum hit. 426 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,200 But thematically, 427 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,120 we're going back to the beginning of the movie where you hear this same 428 00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:50,080 drumming. 429 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,160 You begin the movie with this and you end the movie 430 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,080 with this. 431 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:04,360 But it's all about the 432 00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:07,080 to the looks, the performances and that shot of the drums. 433 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,000 Now this moment where we're Miles Teller is going crazy. 434 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,400 We really wanted to show and illustrate 435 00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:35,360 how virtuosic and how animal like. 436 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,960 This moment is where he's going crazy. 437 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,880 So we cut to this wide shot where you can really see him going nuts, going crazy. 438 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,360 We overlapped 439 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,560 three tracks of this 440 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:54,160 of this drum flurry, of this drum playing to make it sound more complicated. 441 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:58,080 So what you're actually hearing is physically impossible. 442 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:16,600 And here you're going to 443 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,360 tie up with a flurry of muscular cuts, short cuts 444 00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:24,640 you're going to with energy, you're going to tee up and allow for 445 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,680 make room for 446 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,240 a very key moment in this scene, which is the looks between 447 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,200 Fletcher and Andrew, 448 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,520 the looks that tell you that. 449 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:42,920 If you're familiar with the story 450 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,680 that Andrew has become 451 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,720 the next buddy Rich, his idol and that Fletcher in turn 452 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:56,040 has found his Charlie Parker, which is what his life goal was. 453 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,200 And that is presented through the looks 454 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,720 that tell you that they've they've they've worked together. 455 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:08,000 And through this synthesis, this chemical reaction, 456 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,760 they've both reached a place of greatness. 457 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,640 But you tee that up by these cuts here. 458 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,880 And those moments. 459 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:26,880 With the blood dripping. 460 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,160 Ah, hopefully 461 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,240 will make you think of everything that's come before all the pain 462 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,600 and all the energy and all the sacrifices that 463 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,080 that this character and her had to make to get to this point. 464 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,200 But now he's gotten to a point, a different level 465 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,680 that he is inspired to get to. 466 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,880 And now we have the looks. 467 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:54,320 As important 468 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,440 as any of the other cuts in the movie. 469 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:58,800 The smile. 470 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,520 And important that we cut out that we 471 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,920 that we are wide enough to see this smile. 472 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,720 And there's something that Damien loved about this because 473 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,920 there's something dark about it, because. 474 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,960 And that's why I think it's key to have the smile. 475 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,560 Because this. 476 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,800 Tells the audience. 477 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,480 The smile on his face. 478 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,440 The grammar of that tells the audience 479 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,520 that this is a happy ending, which in some ways it is. 480 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,120 He's achieved his goal, but in other ways 481 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,800 it's it's a dark, dark ending 482 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,680 because he's become something he sacrificed to become something 483 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,360 that is not simply something good. 484 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:53,840 And the cut to black 485 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,360 inspired by the cut to Black from the short film. 486 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,960 So we've come kind of full circle in that way. 39586

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