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Ron represented a good time
in my life.
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Yes, we were having sex on film,
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but there wasn't anything
tawdry about it.
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But when it all came out,
I wasn't shocked.
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I think you did it,
you sick motherfucker.
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Ron Jeremy was the biggest
porn star in the world.
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Ron Jeremy is ubiquitous.
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He made it into the mainstream.
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Ron Jeremy shirts, clothes, cigars.
His own dildo.
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Every man I know is like,
"Oh, yeah, I know Ron Jeremy.
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"He's a legend."
No, he's not legend.
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The man's a rapist.
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I never for a second thought
Ron was a predator.
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Pervert? Yes.
Predator? No.
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Jeremy is facing 34 counts
of sexual assault.
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He's right up there against
Harvey Weinstein and Bill Cosby
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as this celebrity sexual predator.
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People don't want to hear
bad stories about their heroes.
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They don't want to hear
that that person's a predator.
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I think there's hundreds
of victims out there.
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Well, we met. I was kind
of like this, with my legs spread.
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And I was down about there.
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Christina was down about
that spot.
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And she looked up and I looked
down, and I said hello,
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and she said hello, and then...
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she ate my pussy.
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I'm Ginger Lynn.
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I used to be a porn star.
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My name is Christy Cannon and,
when I was 18,
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I got into the adult business
fresh out of high school.
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Ginger and I were huge
in the '80s.
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She's the petite blonde,
I'm the big-titted brunette.
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Christy, myself, Ron,
we were three of the biggest names.
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It was the golden age of porn.
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There were big budgets.
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There were big scripts.
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There were big actors.
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It was glamorous,
it was exciting.
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There were parties.
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There were people fucking everybody
anywhere and everywhere.
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We were rebels.
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We were doing something
that was illegal at the time,
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which was part of the intrigue
for me.
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Ron Jeremy has always been, to me,
the same character...
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I remember one scene,
a whole movie called WPINK-TV.
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The Pink Network is on the air
from station KSEX.
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It's TV as you've never
seen it before.
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Tonight, starring Penthouse Pet
Christy Canyon...
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Ron Jeremy.
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We played like anchors,
like the news anchors.
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Are you tired of nightly
killings and terrorism?
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Are you bored with the same
old reruns?
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Has TV almost gotten you to a point
of turning it off?
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Well, don't pull that plug,
because we're going to turn you on.
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He just had me laughing
all the time.
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He was just almost like a cartoon
character.
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He didn't seem real.
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Ladies and Germs, it is time
for my favourite game show,
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Beat The Cock.
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And he'd stand up and he'd make
his cock go around and, like,
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he'd kind of move his hips
and the cock would go in circles.
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Want to see alternate viewing?
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And then he'd say, "Now we're going
to go counterclockwise."
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That's counterclockwise
alternate viewing.
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Everyone that knew anything
about in the adult business
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knew Ron Jeremy.
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He was notorious.
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Ron started in the adult
business in about 1979.
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I might have seen him in some
of the Pussy Cat theatres I was in,
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but the adult business really took
off when VHS came around
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because people could watch adult
movies in the comfort
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of their home.
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He is the average Joe.
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He's the guy that's sitting at home
that can't get the Christy Canyon
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or the Ginger Lynn.
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But you see Ron Jeremy fucking them
and, and it gave men confidence.
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On top of being on the right place
at the right time,
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he had a very large penis.
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Nine and three quarters.
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Everyone wanted to see nine
and three quarters.
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There was a scene that I'm thinking
of, and this guy couldn't get
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it up, and they're like, "Go to the
go to the buffet table,
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"get Ron, have him fill in
for the pop shots."
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So there's Ron fucking me
and, like, eating a hot dog
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cos his face was out of frame,
if that makes sense.
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They only needed a cock shot,
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so he's like double-fisting the food
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and, like, just kind of,
like, pumping away.
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My name is Jim Powers.
I direct adult movies.
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I met Ron Jeremy in 1992.
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I was Ron Jeremy's cameraman.
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I would shoot Ronnie typically
on a weekly basis, I'd be with him.
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For years.
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Ron Jeremy had something to do with
some of the most famous
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porn movies ever made.
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We did the Texas Chainsaw Massacre
as a parody.
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They accidentally pick
up a hitchhiker
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who worked at the old dildo
factory.
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My whole family's in dildos.
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A whole family of perverts.
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They get caught in this insane
dildo madness.
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Pussy Face, Pussy Face,
give me that dildo.
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Pussy Face.
You used to be Pussy Face.
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It was an absolutely ridiculous
movie.
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It was so over the top.
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He was a good actor,
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but I shoot porn,
so I think our standards
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are a little bit lower.
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So don't listen to me.
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There was never any drama
that I heard on a set.
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I never saw anybody really fighting
with Ron Jeremy over anything.
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I never saw him be aggressive.
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Ron Jeremy is a very decent person.
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He's very kind.
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Nicest guy you'd ever meet.
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The Ron Jeremy I knew
was never a rapist.
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Ron represented an innocence
in my life.
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Yes, we were having sex on film.
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There wasn't anything tawdry
about it
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and I was lucky enough that he never
overstepped his bounds with me.
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He would always try and fuck girls,
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but I never knew him in the '80s
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or the '90s to force himself
on someone.
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Was he pushy? Absolutely.
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He was definitely a pushy guy.
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But I think Ron did become
a caricature of who he was
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in the '70s and '80s and '90s.
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Maybe just decades of people adoring
him and worshipping him,
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maybe it gave him a sense
of this entitlement
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and this godlike complex.
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Something in him snapped.
I don't know what.
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Something snapped in that man,
though.
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Perfect.
Perfect?
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It's all I need.
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My name is LB Zimmerman, and I am
an actress and a comedy writer.
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Ron Hyatt,
who is now known as Ron Jeremy,
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and I met in high school in 1967.
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We grew up in Bayside,
Queens, New York.
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We were good friends.
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He came over to my house
quite often,
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and my parents really liked him
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because he was this really cute,
funny kid.
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A nice kid.
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He's hilarious.
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Oh, my God.
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The funniest kid I've ever known,
you know, because he was always
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getting into some kind of mischief.
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We came from these nice
Jewish homes where we waited
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until we got married.
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You know, that's what it was like
back then.
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He was innocent,
a very innocent kid.
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We were very good friends,
but that's where it ended.
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There was no attraction
other than that.
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I know he had girlfriends back
then,
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and I never wanted
to really hear about that.
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I had three girlfriends
that I still love to this very day.
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I, if things weren't going well,
I couldn't eat, couldn't sleep,
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couldn't think, totally distracted,
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that's when I realised
that sex is simple.
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Love — that's painful.
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I knew girls liked him back then.
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Did you know Ron posed for Playgirl?
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Oh, my God, you have got to be
kidding me.
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No, I never knew that.
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Do you want me to show you
a picture?
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Yeah, you could show it to me.
I don't care.
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Oh, my God. I'm dying.
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Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
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I'm covering this part,
cos I just want to look at his face.
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Ron would call his you know what
a schmekel.
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And why? Because schmekel is
a great Yiddish word.
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He grew up Jewish,
I grew up Jewish.
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Ron came from an intellectual
family, an educated family,
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an upper middle-class family.
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His dad was a physicist,
was a really smart guy.
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And, for some bizarre reason, a lot
of the men in porn were Jewish.
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The father will tell his son,
"Go get 'em.
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"Make your dad proud."
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I was a teacher, a licensed teacher.
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I even have a master's degree.
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I wanted to be an actor,
so I quit the teaching.
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When he had the opportunity
to get into porn movies,
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and I think a lot of people do this
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they just have a burning desire,
and they see that as a short cut.
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He was a young, good-looking,
thin guy.
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It made sense.
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This is my childhood friend.
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Who wouldn't be shocked...
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seeing their childhood friend
as a porn star?
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I mean, we're not even talking
like he just did a couple of films,
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you know. We're talking like,
oh, my God.
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This guy was like the king of porn.
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I was disappointed when I heard
that,
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because I thought he could do
so much more in life.
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He's a good guy.
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You know, he made a wrong turn
somewhere when he went in to porn.
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I don't know if he was a pervert
in, like,
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some sort of demented sense,
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but I do think Ron Jeremy
was a bit of a nymphomaniac.
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Ron was a guy that you could call up
all the time and just toss him
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into a gang bang,
toss him into whatever,
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because Ronnie was up for anything.
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The heyday, as far as his craziness,
was the late '90s for porn.
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Everybody was trying to compete with
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the most ridiculous things
they could.
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The world record-breaking,
record-breaking gang bangs.
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Put your hands together
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and please welcome
Spontaneous Xtasy.
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The first world record I set
was a Spontaneous Xtasy 551,
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which means 551 penises
penetrated her.
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So, how do you feel,
being the new, er,
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try at the record-breaking with the
gangbang situation?
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How do you feel?
I feel fantastic.
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I feel excited and I'm ready
to fuck. Really? Yeah.
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He was Santa Claus.
He was a clown.
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Anything... He was a gorilla.
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Oh, man.
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One time I'm like,
"Ronnie, why don't we do a scene
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"where you're, like,
rolling around in grapes?"
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And Ronnie really thought
this was sexy.
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Oh, God.
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How'd that dingleberry get in there?
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It didn't matter what it was.
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If Ron could get laid,
he'd be in your movie.
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But he was still,
Ron Jeremy was an icon.
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Girls were always coming over to
him, wanting to pose for pictures.
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"You're Ron Jeremy,"
and they'd be flirting with him.
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"Show us your dick, Ronnie."
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Much like the Queen of England
always does that, you know,
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they learned to wave.
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It was the same thing with Ron
Jeremy, like the Queen of England.
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You know, you've got to do that wave
down so you don't hurt your hand.
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He'd do the same pose with the guys.
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He'd go like this and you'd go
like this, how big your dick was,
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or if it was a girl, she'd grab him
by the dick or whatever.
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Right there. Right there, yeah.
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But Ron Jeremy, you could suck
that dick right in front of
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the whole bar,
he's not going to care.
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He probably forgot it happened
the next day because, to him,
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that was the average night.
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You know,
he's from a different world.
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And porn is, in some ways,
is a different world.
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The porn industry here is massive.
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They say that there's billions
of dollars made in the industry,
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but a vast majority comes out of
the San Fernando Valley.
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For the last 20—plus years,
this has been the mecca of porn.
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And when you drive through
the Valley,
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it's beautiful, sweet,
normal neighborhoods,
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cute little suburban houses,
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and inside is, you know,
hardcore porn.
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My name is Alana Evans.
I am an adult film star.
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First time I worked with Ron Jeremy
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was in one of those quaint
little suburban houses.
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In the late '90s,
I remember telling myself,
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"It's OK. It's Ron Jeremy.
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"He is this megastar,
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"and if I'm going to be
in a scene with him, hey..."
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I am in a maid's outfit and
cleaning the toilet. That's right.
259
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And he comes in and he's acting like
he's going to the bathroom.
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Oh, perfect.
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And Ron is in this grey bathrobe.
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And if you know Ron,
that's kind of how Ron is.
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He's in a bathrobe on set
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or he's in sweats and a T-shirt
with, like, Croce.
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And he was really nice
and he was really sweet
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and he was probably cracking jokes.
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After that first experience,
we stayed friends.
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My personal favourite
working with Ron
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would have been
our Not The Bradys XXX series.
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It was a full—blown parody
of The Brady Bunch TV show,
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and Ron was the butcher.
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Got some beef for Alice.
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Where's Alice?
Erm, she's in the kitchen.
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But while we were filming
Not The Bradys XXX,
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there was what you would
typically call a green room.
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I was in there.
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Ron was on the couch
probably sitting in his bathrobe.
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There was a young woman,
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and Ron's there,
and he's sitting next to her.
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There's probably
a pillow's worth of space
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between the two of them,
and she's asleep.
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And I look up, and there's Ron,
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and he's reaching over,
picking up her dress
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and trying to get a look under it,
as if he is going to help himself.
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He lifts it up. He looks. He looks
like he's going to do a bit more.
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I got up and I walked right over
and I shook her awake.
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I told her,
"Hey, honey, let's go inside."
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And then I told her
what had happened
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and she shrugged it off,
as, you know, we usually do,
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but it infuriated me.
And at this point,
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you're really starting to see
he is being an absolute creep.
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I hired him for my very first movie
that I ever shot,
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and he played the Penguin.
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Well, he looks like a penguin —
An overgrown penguin...
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I mean, literally a walrus,
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which is close to
the penguin family.
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I mean, I think
they're, like, cousins.
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My name is Adam Glasser,
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also known as Seymore Butts,
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and I was a director of adult films.
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If we had a break,
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Ron would be using
every minute of his free time
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to be pursuing the next vagina,
or meal — one or the other...
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Because his passion for food
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00:17:53,134 --> 00:17:56,854
was almost as great
as his passion for women.
306
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Those were the two main things —
Food and pussy.
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00:18:02,494 --> 00:18:07,259
He was just so singularly focused
on getting laid.
308
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He was very satisfied
with being called up, saying,
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"You're going to be here.
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"You're going to stick your penis
in a vagina at 2pm.
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"We're going to pay you
X amount of dollars,
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"and then, you know,
you're going to go leave."
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Everyone wanted to be Ron's friend
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because he could definitely
open doors.
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And not only open doors...
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He's walking you
right to the front of the lot.
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Ron had asked me
to be his red-carpet chaperone.
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It was a music party.
It was a really big deal.
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It's all mainstream people,
so a lot of
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music industry executives,
celebrities.
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We're all just talking,
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and out of nowhere —
Out of nowhere...
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I feel this hand go
right up the back of my dress,
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right into my vagina
cos I'm not wearing underwear.
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I screamed. I turned to my right.
There's Ron.
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And instantly I am angry,
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00:19:11,587 --> 00:19:15,923
but I'm so grossed out
because, you know,
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my vagina is very special to me
329
00:19:18,266 --> 00:19:22,753
and this is my working tool,
in that way, for porn.
330
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And his reaction is so typical Ron,
331
00:19:26,747 --> 00:19:29,473
like, "Whoa! What did I do?
What did I do?
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00:19:29,497 --> 00:19:34,112
"Oh, my bad. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh! Oh!"
And I'm embarrassed.
333
00:19:34,136 --> 00:19:39,473
Ron just... just did it because
he was so used to just doing it,
334
00:19:39,497 --> 00:19:43,777
and my reaction...
335
00:19:44,667 --> 00:19:46,563
was pure anger.
336
00:19:46,587 --> 00:19:51,282
I knew what he did was wrong to me,
and I knew I was not OK with it,
337
00:19:51,306 --> 00:19:54,136
but was I going to make
a big fuss out of it? No.
338
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The night just continued.
339
00:19:58,107 --> 00:20:00,443
We all absolutely knew
that he was a groper
340
00:20:00,467 --> 00:20:02,963
and that he touched women
and that he would do things
341
00:20:02,987 --> 00:20:04,923
that would make people
uncomfortable.
342
00:20:04,947 --> 00:20:09,803
So, he found comfort
in his behaviour
343
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because nobody stopped him.
344
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I was so conditioned to think that
something like that was normal,
345
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so I remained friends with him.
346
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Yeah, Ron was a groper.
347
00:20:19,697 --> 00:20:21,362
If I'm able to bet,
348
00:20:21,386 --> 00:20:24,112
"Is Ron Jeremy going to be
groping anybody tonight?
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00:20:24,136 --> 00:20:26,467
I'm laying my money on,
"Yes, he's groping."
350
00:20:28,497 --> 00:20:30,136
Ron, be nice!
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00:20:34,217 --> 00:20:36,963
In my movies, he was a groper.
He was supposed to be a groper.
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00:20:36,987 --> 00:20:39,553
It's not a secret.
And here's the other thing...
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In that same room that he's groping,
354
00:20:41,987 --> 00:20:47,553
there's a lot of other groping
going on — girls groping girls,
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00:20:47,577 --> 00:20:49,833
guys groping girls.
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00:20:49,857 --> 00:20:52,553
Girls groping GUYS-
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So, the lines are just so blurred
in this industry.
358
00:20:55,827 --> 00:20:59,443
But, obviously, I'm not talking
about sticking my fingers
359
00:20:59,467 --> 00:21:01,193
in somebody's pussy or any...
360
00:21:01,217 --> 00:21:03,577
or something like that.
That's a different story.
361
00:21:04,707 --> 00:21:07,723
There's no way
Ron didn't know the difference,
362
00:21:07,747 --> 00:21:10,032
whether the lines
were blurred or not.
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00:21:10,056 --> 00:21:11,833
Fingers up the pussy,
364
00:21:11,857 --> 00:21:15,523
cocks in asses, in vaginas...
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00:21:15,547 --> 00:21:17,827
There's no blurred lines there.
366
00:21:19,136 --> 00:21:20,523
It's wrong.
367
00:21:20,547 --> 00:21:22,833
Once you reach into that cookie jar
368
00:21:22,857 --> 00:21:26,393
and you keep taking cookies
and no-one stops you,
369
00:21:26,417 --> 00:21:28,803
you're going to eat them all
until they're gone,
370
00:21:28,827 --> 00:21:31,162
and then you're going to move on
to something else.
371
00:21:31,186 --> 00:21:35,523
And with Ron,
it just progressed worse and worse
372
00:21:35,547 --> 00:21:37,777
because he felt entitled.
373
00:21:44,986 --> 00:21:47,523
You have good sound?
Yeah, give me a...
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00:21:47,547 --> 00:21:49,203
I'll give you a burp, too.
375
00:21:49,227 --> 00:21:50,907
Say your line.
376
00:21:52,066 --> 00:21:55,147
Say, "It's Ron, bitch."
It's Ron, bitch. OK.
377
00:21:56,186 --> 00:21:57,347
Yeah, action.
378
00:21:58,427 --> 00:22:00,042
So, there's a joke in porn.
379
00:22:00,066 --> 00:22:02,403
There's a few things
you shouldn't do...
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Animals, underage,
and another one being Ron Jeremy.
381
00:22:14,186 --> 00:22:17,427
I'm Lianne Young,
and I'm a counsellor...
382
00:22:18,587 --> 00:22:20,603
and I was a porn star.
383
00:22:20,627 --> 00:22:23,162
I grew up in a small town
called Keynsham,
384
00:22:23,186 --> 00:22:25,483
which is in between
Bristol and Bath.
385
00:22:25,507 --> 00:22:26,712
I was just a regular girl,
386
00:22:26,736 --> 00:22:29,092
a single mum from a council estate,
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00:22:29,116 --> 00:22:30,763
bringing up two children
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00:22:30,787 --> 00:22:34,453
who wanted
and had ambitions in life.
389
00:22:34,477 --> 00:22:38,883
Growing up from
being a single parent
390
00:22:38,907 --> 00:22:43,273
to being a porn star was actually
not that hard a journey.
391
00:22:43,297 --> 00:22:44,922
I decided to break America
392
00:22:44,946 --> 00:22:47,683
because if you're going
to be a star, you go to America.
393
00:22:47,707 --> 00:22:51,323
Hiya. Hello. How are you?
I'm very well.
394
00:22:51,347 --> 00:22:52,883
You look very well. Thank you.
395
00:22:52,907 --> 00:22:54,523
And where are you from?
396
00:22:54,547 --> 00:22:56,813
I'm from England, UK.
397
00:22:56,837 --> 00:22:58,547
Look. Let me see.
398
00:22:59,707 --> 00:23:00,986
Oh!
399
00:23:03,736 --> 00:23:06,283
England rules!
400
00:23:06,307 --> 00:23:07,962
My porn alter ego
401
00:23:07,986 --> 00:23:10,353
is definitely Billie Britt.
402
00:23:10,377 --> 00:23:12,813
Hi baby.
403
00:23:12,837 --> 00:23:15,172
My name's Billie
and I'm from England.
404
00:23:15,196 --> 00:23:17,453
The Americans used to call me Cheeky
405
00:23:17,477 --> 00:23:18,922
because I did do a movie
406
00:23:18,946 --> 00:23:20,712
where they interviewed my bottom.
407
00:23:20,736 --> 00:23:23,323
What part of England are you from?
I'm from Bristol.
408
00:23:23,347 --> 00:23:26,353
Bristol? Mm-hm.
What is Bristol famous for?
409
00:23:26,377 --> 00:23:30,763
Me. All right! The talking arse.
The talking ass!
410
00:23:30,787 --> 00:23:33,243
You laugh about it even today,
cos some people do say, you know,
411
00:23:33,267 --> 00:23:34,712
"How did you crack America?"
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00:23:34,736 --> 00:23:37,557
I said, "I slept my way to the top,"
because I did.
413
00:23:38,587 --> 00:23:40,042
When I was off that set,
414
00:23:40,066 --> 00:23:42,563
it's almost like
I left that character behind,
415
00:23:42,587 --> 00:23:44,962
and then I was back to,
like, Lianne the mum.
416
00:23:44,986 --> 00:23:47,866
"What have I got to do for the kids?
What's for dinner tonight?"
417
00:23:49,267 --> 00:23:52,123
I knew that I would never do
a scene with Ron Jeremy.
418
00:23:52,147 --> 00:23:53,763
There's just no way!
419
00:23:53,787 --> 00:23:55,643
I was like, "The man's grotesque."
420
00:23:55,667 --> 00:23:57,922
I didn't want to fuck Ron.
421
00:23:57,946 --> 00:23:59,603
To me, he was just...
422
00:23:59,627 --> 00:24:01,683
He was old and he was hairy
423
00:24:01,707 --> 00:24:04,627
and he was smelly
and he thought he was funny.
424
00:24:10,066 --> 00:24:12,403
December of 1983
425
00:24:12,427 --> 00:24:14,403
is when I made my first film
with Ron.
426
00:24:14,427 --> 00:24:16,763
We had a
quarter—of—a—million—dollar budget.
427
00:24:16,787 --> 00:24:20,763
They flew the entire cast
and crew over
428
00:24:20,787 --> 00:24:23,483
from California to Hawaii.
429
00:24:23,507 --> 00:24:27,123
Hey!
430
00:24:27,147 --> 00:24:28,736
Tammy!
431
00:24:31,707 --> 00:24:33,763
Imagine being 20 years...
432
00:24:33,787 --> 00:24:35,563
Well, I was 20
when I started the film,
433
00:24:35,587 --> 00:24:37,203
21 during the filming,
434
00:24:37,227 --> 00:24:39,557
and all of a sudden,
I'm in paradise.
435
00:24:40,587 --> 00:24:43,986
Hello, I'm Alma.
Hi, I'm Dan. Nice to meet you.
436
00:24:45,196 --> 00:24:47,722
Oh, there's a butterfly.
I must catch it.
437
00:24:47,746 --> 00:24:51,042
I'd known Ron for a little bit,
438
00:24:51,066 --> 00:24:54,042
but we weren't best friends,
by any means.
439
00:24:54,066 --> 00:24:57,433
Alma's class, but watch out
when she gets hot.
440
00:24:57,457 --> 00:25:00,563
And how do you know?
She's like my Auntie Margaret.
441
00:25:00,587 --> 00:25:03,533
I used to listen in
at the bedroom door. It's wild.
442
00:25:03,557 --> 00:25:06,996
Man, I'd give anything
to see you fuck a woman like that.
443
00:25:08,347 --> 00:25:10,742
Jerry Butler and I
were definitely having
444
00:25:10,766 --> 00:25:14,023
an off—screen romance.
445
00:25:14,047 --> 00:25:16,886
I'd fallen in love immediately
with my leading man.
446
00:25:18,687 --> 00:25:21,297
Do you want to kiss me? Yeah.
447
00:25:23,766 --> 00:25:27,303
He asked me to marry him,
and he gave me this little...
448
00:25:27,327 --> 00:25:30,633
My engagement ring
was a little gold hand
449
00:25:30,657 --> 00:25:33,023
with a ruby in it
that you put on a little necklace.
450
00:25:33,047 --> 00:25:34,407
That was my engagement ring.
451
00:25:39,086 --> 00:25:42,103
There was a particular day —
It was actually my 21st birthday...
452
00:25:42,127 --> 00:25:45,223
And Jerry and I were on the beach
and we were going at it.
453
00:25:45,247 --> 00:25:47,742
And we're having a good time
and the waves are crashing
454
00:25:47,766 --> 00:25:49,713
and it's like a movie.
455
00:25:49,737 --> 00:25:51,423
It's romantic and it's wonderful.
456
00:25:51,447 --> 00:25:54,942
And then I hear somebody say,
"Hey, can I join in?"
457
00:25:54,966 --> 00:25:58,143
And I look up and Ron Jeremy
is standing up above on the cliff.
458
00:25:58,167 --> 00:26:01,503
And Jerry and I both,
at the same time, said, "No!"
459
00:26:01,527 --> 00:26:03,822
Just a simple no. And Ron laughed.
460
00:26:03,846 --> 00:26:07,657
And so Jerry and I finished up
and we watched the sunset.
461
00:26:09,487 --> 00:26:13,822
I'm going back to my room
and I went upstairs.
462
00:26:13,846 --> 00:26:15,167
I went into the bathroom...
463
00:26:19,197 --> 00:26:23,173
and I walked to the sink
464
00:26:23,197 --> 00:26:26,273
and I felt somebody
come up behind me,
465
00:26:26,297 --> 00:26:28,183
and it was Ronnie.
466
00:26:28,207 --> 00:26:29,766
He had hidden behind the door.
467
00:26:31,487 --> 00:26:32,942
He grabbed my hands
468
00:26:32,966 --> 00:26:35,303
and he held them down
on the sides of the sink
469
00:26:35,327 --> 00:26:38,633
and pulled down my bathing suit
and just started fucking me...
470
00:26:38,657 --> 00:26:40,992
Just fucking me right there,
raping me.
471
00:26:41,016 --> 00:26:43,303
I'm screaming, "No."
I'm hitting him.
472
00:26:43,327 --> 00:26:44,992
I'm telling him to get off of me.
473
00:26:45,016 --> 00:26:47,383
And the more I say no,
the more that he fucks me,
474
00:26:47,407 --> 00:26:50,463
the harder he fucks me,
and the more he's into it.
475
00:26:50,487 --> 00:26:52,846
He's pulling my hair.
He's slapping my ass.
476
00:26:54,096 --> 00:26:58,893
I don't think he said anything,
except, "Shut up," and, you know,
477
00:26:58,917 --> 00:27:01,223
covered my mouth
and held me down and...
478
00:27:01,247 --> 00:27:03,023
I just stood there and I cried,
479
00:27:03,047 --> 00:27:07,793
and, you know, at a certain point,
you just let it happen.
480
00:27:07,817 --> 00:27:10,862
You just... You just resign yourself
481
00:27:10,886 --> 00:27:13,167
to the fact that
you're getting raped.
482
00:27:14,886 --> 00:27:16,207
I don't remember...
483
00:27:17,297 --> 00:27:19,583
it being over.
484
00:27:19,607 --> 00:27:24,096
I don't remember when he left,
how he walked away.
485
00:27:25,327 --> 00:27:30,183
I remember that he had
a white terry-cloth towel
486
00:27:30,207 --> 00:27:32,663
that he wiped his dick off with.
487
00:27:32,687 --> 00:27:35,503
I just remember just crying
and looking at myself in the mirror.
488
00:27:35,527 --> 00:27:37,766
It was my 21st birthday.
489
00:27:39,846 --> 00:27:42,713
I wish I would have bit
and screamed louder
490
00:27:42,737 --> 00:27:44,433
and punched and fought,
491
00:27:44,457 --> 00:27:47,903
but I was scared and I was young
and I didn't know any better.
492
00:27:47,927 --> 00:27:50,513
I thought, not that I deserved it,
493
00:27:50,537 --> 00:27:54,303
but that I had put myself
in a porn movie.
494
00:27:54,327 --> 00:27:57,992
You know, I'm there to fuck,
so how can I possibly be raped?
495
00:27:58,016 --> 00:28:01,407
I didn't even tell my best friend.
I didn't tell anybody.
496
00:28:06,687 --> 00:28:09,903
I've been asked this question.
497
00:28:09,927 --> 00:28:12,663
"How do you rape a porn star?"
498
00:28:12,687 --> 00:28:17,023
Is something that so many people say
when we are victimised.
499
00:28:17,047 --> 00:28:19,742
And it's like assuming
500
00:28:19,766 --> 00:28:23,303
we're always supposed to be
this fantasy that you have
501
00:28:23,327 --> 00:28:28,903
that you yourself
have created of us.
502
00:28:28,927 --> 00:28:32,663
Those lines are so confusing
for people,
503
00:28:32,687 --> 00:28:36,233
but the reality is
504
00:28:36,257 --> 00:28:40,583
you rape a porn star the same way
you would rape anyone else...
505
00:28:40,607 --> 00:28:42,207
When you violate our consent.
506
00:28:48,127 --> 00:28:50,903
The clays in Hawaii
were extremely long,
507
00:28:50,927 --> 00:28:55,303
but I was contractually obligated
to do one more sex scene with a guy.
508
00:28:55,327 --> 00:28:58,047
The only man on the island
is Ron Jeremy.
509
00:28:59,127 --> 00:29:01,742
Our agent at the time sat down
and she said,
510
00:29:01,766 --> 00:29:04,072
you know,
"You owe us another scene."
511
00:29:04,096 --> 00:29:05,593
I'm like, "Ron's on my no list."
512
00:29:05,617 --> 00:29:07,896
She's like,
"You signed the contract."
513
00:29:08,817 --> 00:29:10,513
So, I had sex with Ron,
514
00:29:10,537 --> 00:29:13,327
the day after he raped me,
on camera.
515
00:29:17,927 --> 00:29:20,233
We're on the beach,
516
00:29:20,257 --> 00:29:22,663
and he's behind me,
thank God, again.
517
00:29:22,687 --> 00:29:25,207
At least I don't have to look at
his fat fucking face.
518
00:29:26,617 --> 00:29:28,983
And Ron always had this thing...
519
00:29:29,007 --> 00:29:31,687
He always said, "Just the tip.
Just the tip. Just the tip."
520
00:29:33,207 --> 00:29:36,702
And he's behind me — this is the day
after he's fucking raped me...
521
00:29:36,726 --> 00:29:38,072
And he goes, "Just the tip,"
522
00:29:38,096 --> 00:29:40,433
and I just turned around
and fucking decked him.
523
00:29:40,457 --> 00:29:43,976
No-one asked. No-one said a word.
And then we just kept rolling.
524
00:29:56,817 --> 00:30:00,103
I don't know
how the rape affected Ginger.
525
00:30:00,127 --> 00:30:02,713
I met her a year after it happened,
526
00:30:02,737 --> 00:30:05,702
and I saw no signs of it.
527
00:30:05,726 --> 00:30:07,543
She never let on.
528
00:30:07,567 --> 00:30:12,313
I never, for a second, in the '80s,
thought Ron was a predator.
529
00:30:12,337 --> 00:30:15,463
Pervert? Yes. Predator? No.
530
00:30:15,487 --> 00:30:18,742
Why did I think Ron was a pervert?
Cos he was.
531
00:30:18,766 --> 00:30:23,872
I was talking to
my fellow porn stars,
532
00:30:23,896 --> 00:30:26,153
and they all had my thought.
533
00:30:26,177 --> 00:30:28,153
With the exception of Ginger Lynn,
534
00:30:28,177 --> 00:30:30,673
we were never accosted,
we were never raped,
535
00:30:30,697 --> 00:30:33,793
we were never pushed to our limit.
536
00:30:33,817 --> 00:30:36,063
He's a pervert, but rape?
537
00:30:36,087 --> 00:30:37,673
It was so out of character,
538
00:30:37,697 --> 00:30:40,543
and yet I've never known
Ginger Lynn to be a liar.
539
00:30:40,567 --> 00:30:46,233
Choosing sides in this situation
with Ginger and Ron
540
00:30:46,257 --> 00:30:49,183
definitely split the industry.
541
00:30:49,207 --> 00:30:51,903
I think it made it
way harder on her.
542
00:30:51,927 --> 00:30:53,543
People will choose sides.
543
00:30:53,567 --> 00:30:55,383
They are always going
to choose sides,
544
00:30:55,407 --> 00:30:58,543
whether they're going
to believe the accuser
545
00:30:58,567 --> 00:31:01,343
or believe, you know, your suspect.
546
00:31:01,367 --> 00:31:03,233
What I saw, in the old clays,
547
00:31:03,257 --> 00:31:05,872
if a girl didn't like Ron Jeremy,
it was very simple.
548
00:31:05,896 --> 00:31:09,263
"Get the fuck away from me."
I saw tons of porn girls do that.
549
00:31:09,287 --> 00:31:13,903
Or, "I won't work with Ron Jeremy
cos he stinks. He's disgusting."
550
00:31:13,927 --> 00:31:16,313
But he never forced himself on them.
551
00:31:16,337 --> 00:31:18,313
Did I ever see him
assault anybody? No.
552
00:31:18,337 --> 00:31:23,153
Did I ever see anybody say,
"Hey, he assaulted me"? No.
553
00:31:23,177 --> 00:31:25,983
Did I ever see anybody
slap him in the face? No.
554
00:31:26,007 --> 00:31:29,063
I was with him so many times
in these kind of situations.
555
00:31:29,087 --> 00:31:31,423
He's pulled his dick out at me
so many times,
556
00:31:31,447 --> 00:31:33,793
and I'm like, "Ron, if you don't
put it back in your damn pants,
557
00:31:33,817 --> 00:31:36,153
"I'm going to pull it off
and shove it up your throat."
558
00:31:36,177 --> 00:31:38,822
You know?
"OK, OK, fine, fine, fine."
559
00:31:38,846 --> 00:31:42,313
Just, "Look at this," you know?
Cos he's funny. That's who he was.
560
00:31:42,337 --> 00:31:44,343
He just did that.
He did those things.
561
00:31:44,367 --> 00:31:48,702
And if you would have told him
that you were not OK with that,
562
00:31:48,726 --> 00:31:50,976
he would have understood.
563
00:31:55,646 --> 00:31:58,752
I'm Kianna Bradley.
I'm a former adult film star.
564
00:31:58,776 --> 00:32:02,593
I have been in probably
over 300 films.
565
00:32:02,617 --> 00:32:05,033
I love Ron. I love Ron Jeremy.
566
00:32:05,057 --> 00:32:07,673
I do. He has been
a very dear friend of mine.
567
00:32:07,697 --> 00:32:10,463
From the first time
I've come into the industry
568
00:32:10,487 --> 00:32:13,976
until whenever we are gone,
he will always be my friend.
569
00:32:15,417 --> 00:32:19,726
Ron is a very kind person. He would
do anything in the world for you.
570
00:32:20,807 --> 00:32:22,153
Ron's a good guy.
571
00:32:22,177 --> 00:32:25,183
He's not one of the shitty ones,
572
00:32:25,207 --> 00:32:27,976
cos there's a lot of them
in our industry.
573
00:32:31,976 --> 00:32:34,513
As far as I know,
I was the very first woman
574
00:32:34,537 --> 00:32:38,057
in the industry
to be raped by Ron in 1983.
575
00:32:39,257 --> 00:32:41,033
I wish I would have gone
to the police
576
00:32:41,057 --> 00:32:46,167
so that other women wouldn't have
been damaged and abused by him.
577
00:32:47,567 --> 00:32:49,872
Back in the '80s,
rape wasn't something that...
578
00:32:49,896 --> 00:32:51,903
No, everybody was there to fuck.
579
00:32:51,927 --> 00:32:54,393
Why would anybody rape anybody or,
you know...?
580
00:32:54,417 --> 00:32:57,257
It wasn't something
that was ever really talked about.
581
00:33:01,287 --> 00:33:04,983
I did confront Ron,
not on my own accord.
582
00:33:05,007 --> 00:33:08,872
A director sets me up with a meeting
with Ron. She says, "I'll be there."
583
00:33:08,896 --> 00:33:13,393
And Ron is notoriously known
for never spending a dime,
584
00:33:13,417 --> 00:33:16,697
a penny on anything,
and he brought me flowers.
585
00:33:18,257 --> 00:33:20,543
I told her what happened,
586
00:33:20,567 --> 00:33:23,343
and Ron sits there
and he thinks about it for a second
587
00:33:23,367 --> 00:33:26,113
and he says, "That's,
you know, what happened,
588
00:33:26,137 --> 00:33:29,702
"but I thought you wanted it.
I thought you wanted me."
589
00:33:29,726 --> 00:33:31,217
And he believed it.
590
00:33:35,217 --> 00:33:39,553
There was another time
Ron sat down at the piano
591
00:33:39,577 --> 00:33:41,393
and he played me a song.
592
00:33:41,417 --> 00:33:46,473
And he wasn't trying to be big.
He wasn't trying to impress anybody.
593
00:33:46,497 --> 00:33:49,983
He just played the song,
and it was beautiful,
594
00:33:50,007 --> 00:33:53,343
and it was the only honest moment
595
00:33:53,367 --> 00:33:56,343
that I've ever seen
in such an ugly person.
596
00:33:56,367 --> 00:33:58,393
I shoved the rape down, just...
597
00:33:58,417 --> 00:34:02,033
I shoved it way down — deep down —
For years before I came out.
598
00:34:02,057 --> 00:34:04,553
And I did an interview in a magazine
599
00:34:04,577 --> 00:34:07,673
where I talked about the rape,
600
00:34:07,697 --> 00:34:13,622
and I had the worst backlash ever
from people in the industry,
601
00:34:13,646 --> 00:34:15,313
people calling me a liar,
602
00:34:15,337 --> 00:34:17,863
people saying,
"You're just trying to get famous."
603
00:34:17,887 --> 00:34:20,976
Yeah, that's what I'm going to do —
I'm going to get raped to be famous!
604
00:34:22,697 --> 00:34:27,063
There was no caring,
no compassion, no understanding.
605
00:34:27,087 --> 00:34:31,063
About 15 years ago, someone put up
a website on the internet,
606
00:34:31,087 --> 00:34:34,423
and you could vote for
The Hedgehog or Ginger Lynn...
607
00:34:34,447 --> 00:34:35,952
Who was telling the truth?
608
00:34:35,976 --> 00:34:38,343
It was a game to people.
609
00:34:38,367 --> 00:34:41,553
They fucking voted,
and it was just...
610
00:34:41,577 --> 00:34:44,033
It was horrible. It was horrible.
I had people...
611
00:34:44,057 --> 00:34:46,887
I was defending myself
for being raped.
612
00:34:51,856 --> 00:34:54,167
Fuck! Who's there?
613
00:34:56,617 --> 00:34:59,553
OK. Get me the fuck out of here!
614
00:34:59,577 --> 00:35:03,273
Saw is a parody porn film.
615
00:35:03,297 --> 00:35:06,913
The movie opens up
with a male performer.
616
00:35:06,937 --> 00:35:09,863
Hello, Jason.
You've been placed here
617
00:35:09,887 --> 00:35:12,343
because of the way that
you've been treating women.
618
00:35:12,367 --> 00:35:16,137
You see, Ron Jeremy
is the chief of police.
619
00:35:17,337 --> 00:35:22,393
So, what is the story
about this screwball case?
620
00:35:22,417 --> 00:35:24,223
All we do know is that
621
00:35:24,247 --> 00:35:27,423
all of the victims
were in the adult film industry.
622
00:35:27,447 --> 00:35:31,167
So, what do you suggest, Chief?
I suggest that one of you...
623
00:35:32,497 --> 00:35:33,783
goes undercover.
624
00:35:33,807 --> 00:35:35,832
Get it? Undercover.
625
00:35:35,856 --> 00:35:43,143
And then the final scene, you see
Ron is unmasked as the abuser.
626
00:35:43,167 --> 00:35:45,447
Come out of the light slowly.
627
00:35:49,526 --> 00:35:53,143
Well, I see you've discovered
my little secret.
628
00:35:53,167 --> 00:35:55,993
At that point,
we all already know who Ron is,
629
00:35:56,017 --> 00:35:58,033
what kind of person he is.
630
00:35:58,057 --> 00:36:01,937
Here we are in this situation where,
you know...
631
00:36:02,976 --> 00:36:05,632
life is imitating art.
632
00:36:05,656 --> 00:36:07,993
The other thing about this film
633
00:36:08,017 --> 00:36:10,377
is that Ginger performs with Ron.
634
00:36:14,247 --> 00:36:16,502
This is that movie?
635
00:36:16,526 --> 00:36:18,553
Oh!
636
00:36:18,577 --> 00:36:22,327
OK. So, to people like me,
that movie is infamous.
637
00:36:24,807 --> 00:36:27,143
We all have talked about
this movie...
638
00:36:27,167 --> 00:36:30,273
How crazy it was that,
out of nowhere,
639
00:36:30,297 --> 00:36:32,776
Ginger and Ron worked together.
640
00:36:34,697 --> 00:36:39,143
The last time I saw Ron was
on the set of a movie called Saw,
641
00:36:39,167 --> 00:36:43,553
and I decided to do the film
trying to find closure,
642
00:36:43,577 --> 00:36:46,303
and I just got
really shitfaced drunk
643
00:36:46,327 --> 00:36:47,752
and I don't remember anything.
644
00:36:47,776 --> 00:36:50,913
I got no closure.
I just did a dumb thing.
645
00:36:50,937 --> 00:36:55,323
The actresses that have went on
to work with him
646
00:36:55,347 --> 00:36:58,502
after these things
happened to them...
647
00:36:58,526 --> 00:37:00,863
Why did you continue
to work with him?
648
00:37:00,887 --> 00:37:05,433
Why didn't you say something then?
649
00:37:05,457 --> 00:37:06,783
We have a voice,
650
00:37:06,807 --> 00:37:10,223
and some of these actresses
have pretty big names.
651
00:37:10,247 --> 00:37:12,783
Is your point of view
going to be popular?
652
00:37:12,807 --> 00:37:14,193
Probably not.
653
00:37:14,217 --> 00:37:17,033
I really don't care
if I get backlash or not from it.
654
00:37:17,057 --> 00:37:18,223
I really don't.
655
00:37:18,247 --> 00:37:21,752
I have been a victim
of rape and violence,
656
00:37:21,776 --> 00:37:26,553
but I'm not friends with them
for 20—something years afterwards,
657
00:37:26,577 --> 00:37:29,377
and I damn sure
won't work with them.
658
00:37:33,017 --> 00:37:38,433
The fact that Ginger
performed with Ron multiple times
659
00:37:38,457 --> 00:37:42,832
would definitely not bode well
with a jury.
660
00:37:42,856 --> 00:37:45,143
But Ginger doesn't have
to worry about that
661
00:37:45,167 --> 00:37:46,943
because she's not on trial.
662
00:37:46,967 --> 00:37:49,832
It's very hard
to cry assault or rape
663
00:37:49,856 --> 00:37:53,247
when having sex is your job.
664
00:37:56,297 --> 00:37:58,632
But I don't think the fact that
665
00:37:58,656 --> 00:38:01,752
Ginger Lynn
performed with Ron Jeremy
666
00:38:01,776 --> 00:38:06,073
after the time of the alleged rape,
667
00:38:06,097 --> 00:38:08,153
I don't think that proves anything.
668
00:38:08,177 --> 00:38:12,023
Supporters of Ron
point to the fact that
669
00:38:12,047 --> 00:38:16,913
maybe you have acted with him
years after you were raped,
670
00:38:16,937 --> 00:38:20,193
and they will minimise
what happened.
671
00:38:20,217 --> 00:38:22,113
That's not my problem. That's...
672
00:38:22,137 --> 00:38:26,592
The fact that people will minimise
what happened to me,
673
00:38:26,616 --> 00:38:30,953
I they minimised Ron Jeremy raping me I
674
00:38:30,977 --> 00:38:33,623
because I had sex with him
on film afterwards...
675
00:38:33,647 --> 00:38:35,183
The fact that I was raped,
676
00:38:35,207 --> 00:38:37,823
I'm still raped,
even if I fucked him afterwards,
677
00:38:37,847 --> 00:38:42,183
and that's my poor decision,
my poor judgment, my addiction,
678
00:38:42,207 --> 00:38:44,113
my problem, not yours.
679
00:38:44,137 --> 00:38:45,616
Stay out of my life.
680
00:38:51,417 --> 00:38:55,753
The last time I saw Ron
was at my house.
681
00:38:55,777 --> 00:38:58,903
It was a Fourth of July barbecue,
682
00:38:58,927 --> 00:39:01,592
but I remember
he was really pleading his case
683
00:39:01,616 --> 00:39:03,263
that he was innocent.
684
00:39:03,287 --> 00:39:06,193
I'll never forget,
he had a picture of Ginger
685
00:39:06,217 --> 00:39:08,233
on the beach in Hawaii,
like an 8x10.
686
00:39:08,257 --> 00:39:10,113
She was wearing, like,
a red one-piece,
687
00:39:10,137 --> 00:39:13,873
looking over her shoulder,
I'm assuming at him, smiling at him,
688
00:39:13,897 --> 00:39:15,672
before they had sex that day.
689
00:39:15,696 --> 00:39:19,472
I think he would show it
to anybody that would listen
690
00:39:19,496 --> 00:39:22,472
just to get his side out there.
691
00:39:22,496 --> 00:39:24,153
"How could she say I raped her
692
00:39:24,177 --> 00:39:27,233
"if she worked with me
several times after?"
693
00:39:27,257 --> 00:39:30,063
And I almost think that,
in his brain,
694
00:39:30,087 --> 00:39:32,777
he thought he was innocent
of everything.
695
00:39:40,977 --> 00:39:46,263
Ron was paid to be this person
for so many years.
696
00:39:46,287 --> 00:39:49,033
Everywhere Ron went, he was...
697
00:39:49,057 --> 00:39:52,342
"Can you touch my girlfriend's boob?
Can you touch her ass?
698
00:39:52,366 --> 00:39:54,113
"Let me see your cock."
699
00:39:54,137 --> 00:39:56,623
Those are the things
that we paid him to do.
700
00:39:56,647 --> 00:39:58,953
Those are the things
that we praised him to do,
701
00:39:58,977 --> 00:39:59,977
we awarded him.
702
00:40:01,217 --> 00:40:03,833
So many people were saying that
703
00:40:03,857 --> 00:40:05,833
they're not going
to be around anyone
704
00:40:05,857 --> 00:40:11,057
that supports his kind of behaviour,
but you supported it for years!
705
00:40:12,727 --> 00:40:17,802
I think he was made an example of
within our industry,
706
00:40:17,826 --> 00:40:20,113
but what people are forgetting
707
00:40:20,137 --> 00:40:22,777
is that they're not
the sex industry.
708
00:40:23,807 --> 00:40:27,193
They are not pornographic industry.
709
00:40:27,217 --> 00:40:30,422
That's who we are. We have sex.
710
00:40:30,446 --> 00:40:35,472
We fondle fans.
We climb on top of them.
711
00:40:35,496 --> 00:40:38,033
We put our tongues in their throats.
712
00:40:38,057 --> 00:40:40,342
That's who we are.
713
00:40:40,366 --> 00:40:42,647
Like, we all did it.
It wasn't just Ron.
714
00:40:43,616 --> 00:40:45,623
Ron's not aggressive.
715
00:40:45,647 --> 00:40:49,422
He would not want
to hurt someone's feelings.
716
00:40:49,446 --> 00:40:52,193
He was an asshole,
he was a prick sometimes,
717
00:40:52,217 --> 00:40:54,496
but he would not
have wanted to hurt...
718
00:40:56,057 --> 00:40:59,366
any of us. You know,
he wasn't that kind of person.
719
00:41:00,807 --> 00:41:05,753
I do not believe he's capable
of rape whatsoever. I don't.
720
00:41:05,777 --> 00:41:08,857
I believe they targeted him.
721
00:41:18,737 --> 00:41:23,723
The first night that I met Ron,
I was out with a former housemate
722
00:41:23,747 --> 00:41:27,313
to the Rainbow Rooms,
and she just goes on over there
723
00:41:27,337 --> 00:41:29,313
and says,
"Hey, Ron, meet Billie Britt."
724
00:41:29,337 --> 00:41:31,723
You know, "She's the porn queen
of England."
725
00:41:31,747 --> 00:41:33,723
Ron was really welcoming.
726
00:41:33,747 --> 00:41:36,072
It's almost like meeting a friend
after 20 years.
727
00:41:36,096 --> 00:41:39,433
"Hey, how are you doing?" You know,
"How's America treating you?"
728
00:41:39,457 --> 00:41:41,926
He was actually
quite a regular person.
729
00:41:45,897 --> 00:41:48,152
When I'd met Ron again,
730
00:41:48,176 --> 00:41:49,873
it was Halloween 2000.
731
00:41:49,897 --> 00:41:51,183
The adult industry as a whole,
732
00:41:51,207 --> 00:41:54,032
there were many charity events
that everybody got dressed up for.
733
00:41:54,056 --> 00:41:56,056
This one was at the House Of Blues.
734
00:41:57,207 --> 00:42:00,152
It was like a live venue
where bands played.
735
00:42:00,176 --> 00:42:02,952
Lots of industry people
and lots of regular people.
736
00:42:02,976 --> 00:42:06,873
People talking amongst ourselves,
just doing our thing.
737
00:42:06,897 --> 00:42:08,723
It was like a girls' night out.
738
00:42:08,747 --> 00:42:10,393
I wasn't in performer mode.
739
00:42:10,417 --> 00:42:13,082
I was in relaxed Lianne Young mode
740
00:42:13,106 --> 00:42:15,113
and I was out for a good night.
741
00:42:15,137 --> 00:42:20,593
I was there with my ex-husband,
and Lianne was there.
742
00:42:20,617 --> 00:42:22,233
And at this point,
I've known Lianne,
743
00:42:22,257 --> 00:42:24,593
you know, for quite some time
and we're quite close,
744
00:42:24,617 --> 00:42:28,473
and I remember
we are sitting at a table.
745
00:42:28,497 --> 00:42:30,793
I was drinking
out of a bottle of beer
746
00:42:30,817 --> 00:42:32,193
and I'm watching a band,
747
00:42:32,217 --> 00:42:35,056
the girls are talking
amongst themselves and...
748
00:42:36,287 --> 00:42:38,926
literally, you know...
749
00:42:40,926 --> 00:42:42,952
It happened from behind.
750
00:42:42,976 --> 00:42:46,926
I just remember just being pushed
over the table, dropping my drink...
751
00:42:49,387 --> 00:42:51,667
and a penis
being pushed inside of me.
752
00:42:55,417 --> 00:42:58,513
I manage to turn
to the right-hand side
753
00:42:58,537 --> 00:43:00,263
to get myself back up
754
00:43:00,287 --> 00:43:02,082
and it was Ron behind me.
755
00:43:02,106 --> 00:43:04,553
And I smacked him round the face
and said,
756
00:43:04,577 --> 00:43:06,952
"What the fucking hell
do you think you're doing?
757
00:43:06,976 --> 00:43:08,753
"Get your fucking hands off me!"
758
00:43:08,777 --> 00:43:11,832
And he still had his penis out
when I slapped him round the face.
759
00:43:11,856 --> 00:43:13,673
His dick is still hanging there.
760
00:43:13,697 --> 00:43:17,003
The man's just raped me,
doesn't give a shit.
761
00:43:17,027 --> 00:43:21,337
After he'd finished dipping himself,
he just wandered off into the crowd.
762
00:43:23,697 --> 00:43:26,513
When I close my eyes
and I count the seconds,
763
00:43:26,537 --> 00:43:29,856
it's only four, five seconds.
764
00:43:34,186 --> 00:43:37,803
But that was a bloody long
four, five seconds.
765
00:43:37,827 --> 00:43:40,952
And I was just there going to
my friends, "What the fuck?"
766
00:43:40,976 --> 00:43:44,032
The people I told were like,
"That's Ronnie. He does that.
767
00:43:44,056 --> 00:43:45,983
"He thinks he's just got
a free—for—all.
768
00:43:46,007 --> 00:43:48,313
"He's got, like,
this golden pass in porn."
769
00:43:48,337 --> 00:43:49,473
I was raped.
770
00:43:49,497 --> 00:43:52,233
You can't report it.
You're a sex worker.
771
00:43:52,257 --> 00:43:54,803
You've just got to move on.
You've just got to move on.
772
00:43:54,827 --> 00:43:56,313
"Do you want another drink?"
773
00:43:56,337 --> 00:43:59,673
I cannot even remember
anybody going, "I'm sorry.
774
00:43:59,697 --> 00:44:01,367
"I'm sorry that happened to you."
775
00:44:03,106 --> 00:44:06,553
I saw what Ron did to Lianne.
776
00:44:06,577 --> 00:44:09,753
The force of him
coming up behind her,
777
00:44:09,777 --> 00:44:13,233
we were all just kind of shocked
at what just happened.
778
00:44:13,257 --> 00:44:15,497
But, you know, again...
779
00:44:16,697 --> 00:44:21,027
Ron is a bit of a pig
and Ron does stuff like this.
780
00:44:22,137 --> 00:44:25,912
Nobody said, "Oh, that's rape,"
781
00:44:25,936 --> 00:44:32,803
because we're so desensitised
to the sexualness of our existence.
782
00:44:32,827 --> 00:44:36,803
I think the biggest thing
that hindered the police
783
00:44:36,827 --> 00:44:39,162
from doing anything about
any of the cases...
784
00:44:39,186 --> 00:44:41,523
Because none of us
went to the police
785
00:44:41,547 --> 00:44:45,883
because, in our minds,
they would laugh at us.
786
00:44:45,907 --> 00:44:48,353
Help! Now, wait a minute, Red.
787
00:44:48,377 --> 00:44:51,353
We are pushing it much too far
right here.
788
00:44:51,377 --> 00:44:54,673
What's gotten into him?
Please forgive me. I was just...
789
00:44:54,697 --> 00:44:57,162
I was overwhelmed
by your feminine charm.
790
00:44:57,186 --> 00:45:00,313
Ron has a very, very jokey persona.
791
00:45:00,337 --> 00:45:03,723
When I see Ron playing his persona,
you know, like in The Flintstones,
792
00:45:03,747 --> 00:45:05,976
it makes me absolutely sick.
793
00:45:07,217 --> 00:45:08,353
Ooh!
794
00:45:08,377 --> 00:45:10,753
You've only been sold
one side of Ron.
795
00:45:10,777 --> 00:45:13,193
Ron's not going to show you
his true colours
796
00:45:13,217 --> 00:45:15,137
unless you were a victim of Ron's.
797
00:45:16,137 --> 00:45:19,393
People hide behind characters,
798
00:45:19,417 --> 00:45:23,753
and the fact is,
predators are so good at hiding,
799
00:45:23,777 --> 00:45:25,753
and Ron is one of them.
800
00:45:25,777 --> 00:45:27,017
The man's a rapist.
801
00:45:28,137 --> 00:45:29,353
I often do think,
802
00:45:29,377 --> 00:45:31,712
"Will Ron remember it?"
and I don't think he will.
803
00:45:31,736 --> 00:45:34,082
I don't think Ron remembers
half he's done,
804
00:45:34,106 --> 00:45:36,353
and I know that
805
00:45:36,377 --> 00:45:37,986
I'm not the only one.
806
00:45:53,056 --> 00:45:55,393
You're a fucking idiot!
I tell you to, like...
807
00:45:55,417 --> 00:45:59,162
What, like you're two years old?
I like to scream like one.
808
00:45:59,186 --> 00:46:01,883
He was a zombie.
He could barely talk.
809
00:46:01,907 --> 00:46:04,193
This is an enormous case.
810
00:46:04,217 --> 00:46:06,523
It's more charges
than Harvey Weinstein faced.
811
00:46:06,547 --> 00:46:08,393
I have to believe that
812
00:46:08,417 --> 00:46:10,912
people knew that
he was as violent as he was
813
00:46:10,936 --> 00:46:13,273
because there are
so many accounts of it.
814
00:46:13,297 --> 00:46:19,056
It's time to get Ron Jeremy charged
with how he raped me 20 years ago.
65518
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