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♪ ♪
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- You need to get out.
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Help me get this reporter
out of here!
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I need some muscle over here!
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♪ ♪
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- Keep doing it!
[shouting indistinctly]
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[cheers and applause]
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♪ ♪
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- You know, this is all
very personal to me
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'cause I experienced tyranny
at a very young age.
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Israel sent me
into the Soviet Union
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when I was 21 years old
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'cause I knew Russian
and Hebrew,
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and I was sent in to smuggle
out the names of Jews
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that I would find
in the Soviet Union
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and to smuggle in
religious items and so on.
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And I really experienced
what most people in the West
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have never, ever experienced:
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life under a totalitarian
regime.
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[grand music]
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♪ ♪
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[somber music]
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In order to keep myself sane,
I would make myself laugh.
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So, in my Moscow hotel,
which I knew was bugged--
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And how did I know?
It's very simple.
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They didn't allow any
Soviet citizen
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to stay in the same hotel
as a Westerner.
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So I would sing
from the Psalms.
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It says,
"They have false gods.
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"They have ears that don't
hear, eyes that don't see,
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but people still
bow down to them."
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[singing in Hebrew]
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♪ ♪
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- I think somewhere a cantor
just killed himself.
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- A few cantors.
I think one is understating it.
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- Everyone says, "Why are you
friends with Dennis Prager?
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You have nothing in common."
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[laughter]
As if, if our moms' first names
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were both Connie,
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we'd be simpatico
on every topic.
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He comes from the East.
I come from the West.
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He comes from religion.
I come from atheist/pagan.
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He comes from college
and knowledge.
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I come from tomfoolery
and sports,
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but yet we both share
a little something
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called common sense and values,
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and the common sense
and values--
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I think this may be the chance
for this country.
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Common sense and values
should trump everything.
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It should trump LGBT.
It should trump Chicano.
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It should trump black.
It should trump Trump.
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That's all we should be
focused on,
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is common sense and values.
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[applause]
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This is the place I'd always
kind of dreamt of
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when I was a kid.
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The houses I grew up in
did not have garages,
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and I always wanted cars and
go-karts and mini bikes and--
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Well, I wanted
a basketball hoop.
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I wanted a dog. I wanted dinner.
I wanted a whole bunch of stuff.
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[smooth music]
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♪ ♪
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I found out very early
what could happen to somebody
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if you got a free house,
a couple of food tickets,
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and just a stipend
from the government,
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that it was debilitating.
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My mom was never forced to go
out and take care of business,
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and I said to her once, sort of
from the mouth of babes,
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"Why don't you just get a job?
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"You get a job,
we'll have a car.
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"We could have a nice car
instead of a junker.
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We could get some furniture."
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And she said, "If I get a job,
I'll lose my welfare,"
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meaning, "Use your head, boy."
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And I thought at that point--
I realized, not for me.
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- I'm a little embarrassed,
because here's a guy
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listening to my show
for years,
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and he's the most downloaded
podcast in the world,
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and I didn't know who he was?
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- Adam Carolla and his
partner, Julianne Hough.
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♪ ♪
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[cheers and applause]
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- My name's Jimmy,
and his name's Adam.
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- The king is parched
and grows weary.
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Jester, bring forth
a chalice of ale.
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[cheers and applause]
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Scamper away.
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I don't want to live in a world
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where Dennis Prager
knows who I am.
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The Dennis I enjoy is,
he's just home.
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He's reading the Torah,
and he's smoking a cigar.
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I don't want a Dennis Prager
who goes,
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"Hey, Ace Man,
'Man Show,'
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'Crank Yankers,' love it."
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- If somebody were able to pick
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the two most
opposite upbringings
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in the United States
of America,
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they would take my upbringing
and his upbringing.
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I remember playing stickball
in Brooklyn, where I grew up.
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So some kid would say something,
you know, unbelievably stupid,
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and we'd all tell him,
"Will you shut up?"
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And he'd go,
"Hey, it's a free country, man.
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It's freedom of speech here."
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And it basically shut us up.
He's right.
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What's happening now
in the United States,
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you are not to be heard
on a college campus
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or at your place of work.
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This is brand-new.
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This is one of the few things
one could say
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we have no precedent for
in the United States.
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- The real question is how long
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before they come for your job
and for my job--
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I mean, for anyone
who speaks for a living?
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- They want to close us down.
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No, in all seriousness,
they do want to close us down.
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- Don't you have a billion views on PragerU?
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- We do; we had a billion
views last year,
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but the same thing's
gonna happen to you.
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Look, you're the most
downloaded podcast,
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to my knowledge,
in the world, yeah.
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- Yeah, I got a family.
I got employees.
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- We're not an enemy
to goodness.
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We're not an enemy
to good things.
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We're an enemy of the dogmatic.
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- Dennis and I were gonna
get together
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and do an event at CSUN.
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That's Cal State Northridge
out here.
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A little backstory--
my mother graduated CSUN
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with a degree
in Chicano studies,
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so that's all you need to know
about my mom and possibly CSUN.
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- Never has a thesis
been so confirmed so rapidly.
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We were going to do an event,
you and I.
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- And we've done events there
before.
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- And we've done before.
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And the subject was,
essentially,
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what is happening
at our universities
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in terms of intellectual
openness, et cetera, et cetera?
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They had fully approved
you and me being there.
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They then canceled it
because of the topic.
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It doesn't bother me for me.
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It bothers me for this
beloved country of mine.
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It bothers me for the young
people who are being deprived
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of anything
that could open their minds.
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- So I have a vision of us
as people, as human beings
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that is interested not in what
is different among us
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but what is the same, okay?
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So I believe,
even though I'm not like you,
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in the sense
of my superficial appearance,
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that I can sit down and talk
to you and understand--
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understand your predicament,
that I can listen to you.
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If that's not true,
if you deny that,
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then what is the reason
that you ask to be heard?
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Yes, thank you.
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That I disagree with.
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That I disagree with.
- No, no, no.
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- I disagree. I disagree.
- It's not a debate.
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- I am sick looking at you.
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I am disgusted watching Alex
argue with you.
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You are not listening!
You are disgusting.
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And now I want your job
to be taken from you.
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- People who have a great,
sterling reputation at Yale,
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"You know, you're old enough
to decide
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what Halloween costume
you should use,"
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and for that, it almost causes
a riot at Yale,
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and that's Yale.
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- And I know last year
on Halloween,
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you went as Kevin Hart,
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and that caused--
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You don't know who
Kevin Hart is.
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- Well, I do vaguely,
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but the point is, it's cultural
appropriation no matter what.
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- That is correct.
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- We're on the way
to the airport,
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which is where I do much
of my life, the airport.
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You know, I go to all sorts
of campuses,
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from Berkeley to Columbia
and everything in between.
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So, you know, my hope is,
it's Wyoming.
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It's a pretty
conservative state.
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All will be peaceful
and tranquil.
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- It all began when students
invited a special guest
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to speak about socialism.
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- Yeah, that's right, Aaron.
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We were on campus tonight
as hundreds lined up
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to see Dennis Prager speak
about his views,
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but before he even arrived
to campus,
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other students
who did not agree
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tried to stop his appearance.
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- We're essentially here
because we don't agree
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with Mr. Prager's views
at all.
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He has said
many hurtful things
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and hateful rhetoric towards
underrepresented communities,
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of which Wyoming has many
beautiful, diverse communities.
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- In the case of the University
of Wyoming, it was precious.
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"Dennis Prager, noted--"
which was a compliment--
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"Noted bigot,
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racist, homophobe, sexist,
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Islamophobe, and anti-Semite."
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[laughter]
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I swear to God.
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So word got out to the person
who clearly knew me well,
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"It's probably worth
dropping anti-Semite.
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"The guy is a well-known Jew,
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written books on Judaism,
et cetera."
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So they dropped that
without a word of apology,
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needless to say.
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They just dropped it,
but everything else remained.
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- It's ironic that, you know,
"The Los Angeles Times"
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would call you bigoted,
because what you do
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is the opposite of bigoted,
which is,
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"I don't care who's listening.
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I will simply speak the truth
as I know it to you,"
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versus a version that is meant
for this color
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and that group
and the LGBT community.
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Dennis is the most decent,
moral person I've ever met,
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and thus, he does not have
this animus in his heart,
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so he's able to be free
to piss everyone off.
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[laughter and applause]
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- The only reason
for the attack
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is that I'm known
as a conservative.
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This is a brainwash
that they undergo.
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If you are conservative,
then you are not wrong.
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You are evil.
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They have to think we're evil.
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Otherwise they have
to debate us.
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all: Racist go home!
Racist go home!
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- The chaos centered around
controversial conservative
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Ben Shapiro.
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- Values matter significantly
more than melanin level.
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Racial diversity doesn't mean
anything.
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Decency means something.
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Diversity is not a bad thing,
but it isn't a good thing
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unless the people who are
racially diverse
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are also decent.
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- Concerns over safety
and threats
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prompted University President
William Covino
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to cancel
the preapproved speech,
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but Shapiro continued with his
scheduled appearance,
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drawing dozens of protesters
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who were desperate
to stop him.
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- Look at me. I mean, like,
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do I look like
a physical threat to anybody?
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Last time I was in a fight,
I was 14 years old.
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I was two years younger
than everybody else
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in my high-school class,
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and I was getting
my ass kicked.
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- When I went to college,
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suddenly there were some folks
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who didn't think at all
like me.
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I've heard some
college campuses
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where they don't want
to have a guest speaker
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who is too conservative.
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all:
Charles Murray, go away!
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Racist, sexist, anti-gay!
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- That's the free speech
of the left.
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- This is not an argument.
This is a religion.
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- When Professor Stanger was
escorting Murray out,
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she was left with
a concussion and whiplash.
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- Shouldn't we be able to agree
on protecting free speech
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no matter who is speaking?
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- There will be resistance,
and it will not be peaceful.
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Resistance to violent
hate speech
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is not another act of hate.
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It is an act of love.
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- Whoever told you you only had
to hear what didn't upset you?
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♪ ♪
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[indistinct shouting]
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all:
Shut it down! Shut it down!
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Shut it down! Shut it down!
Shut it down!
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Shut it down!
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[explosion, screaming]
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- A protest has turned violent
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at the University
of California, Berkeley.
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- Campus locked down as more
than 1,000 people rallied
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against the appearance
of a controversial editor
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from Breitbart, Milo Yiannopoulos.
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- All I care about is free
speech and free expression.
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I want people to be able to be,
do, and say anything.
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- It's disgusting.
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It's one thing to protest
someone's right
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to come here and speak,
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but it's another thing
to create
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this much amount
of destruction and violence
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and hurt and harm
other people.
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- We need our voices heard,
and if this is the way
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that we think it must be done,
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then I suppose
that's what we got to do.
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- It sends the message
that under no means
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will we allow any of this to
go on anywhere near Berkeley.
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- Has the birthplace
of free speech
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now become its graveyard?
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♪ ♪
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[dramatic music]
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- If there's a fundamental
American right,
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it's to say what's
on your mind.
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The idea that if
you offend me,
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you should not speak...
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- To create a unsafe space
here for all--
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- I did not--
- Be quiet!
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- Is so bizarre.
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- What a lot of people
don't get
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and Americans get to take
for granted
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is that free speech is a very
weird thing in human history.
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Mostly, our instincts are,
we don't like dissenters.
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We prefer to behead them,
set them on fire,
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send them out of our village.
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- Free speech is unique
to the United States.
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Lots of countries pretend
to have it,
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but they'll cut your head off
for blasphemy in Saudi Arabia.
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In Thailand they'll throw you
in a prison
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if you make fun of the king.
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In Russia and China,
you go to jail
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if you say anything nice
about gay people.
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In Germany,
you can't praise Nazis.
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Sounds good, right?
But maybe not.
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Doesn't stop people from
promoting Nazism in secret.
321
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It just means you can't
debate them in public.
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France convicted
Brigitte Bardot five times
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for criticizing the practice
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of animal sacrifice
at a Muslim festival.
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[sheep baas]
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The U.K. convicted a comic
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of a hate crime
for teaching a pug
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to do a Nazi salute.
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Just over the border
in Canada,
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a Christian preacher
was arrested for, wait for it,
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preaching in public.
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Pretty much everywhere else,
cops can come to your house
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and arrest you for a rant
or a complaint
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or even for making a joke.
335
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The only reason
they can't do it here
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is because we have
the First Amendment.
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- The only reason why you have
a First Amendment
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is to protect
the rights of minorities,
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the rights of the oddball,
the rights of the underdog.
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Free speech battles on campus
in the 1960s,
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starting in Berkeley
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and the Free Speech Movement
in 1964,
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were primarily about
whether or not
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you could have politics
on campus,
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and that was the start
of the Free Speech Movement.
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From 1964 on, it, you know,
took over campuses
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all over the country,
348
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and I think it was
so successful
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that there was probably
a perfect week in 1977
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when free speech
was protected on campus
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at a level it never had been
before and would be again,
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probably right around the time
"Star Wars" came out.
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The phase that we're in
right now
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is the most distressing one.
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Sometime around 2013, 2014,
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the students themselves
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started demanding
new speech codes
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or that people not be
invited to speak,
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or if they were invited,
that they be disinvited.
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- Both Condoleezza Rice
and Christine Lagarde
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had to withdraw themselves
from giving speeches
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at Rutgers
and Smith Universities.
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- That was when you first
started hearing
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about trigger warnings,
365
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things like
microaggression training.
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- We're not sure if we even
believe in freedom anymore.
367
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Most universities today don't
require classes in civics,
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courses to know
the fundamentals
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of the Constitution.
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Instead, we have classes
on the things that divide us--
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identity politics.
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If we don't rediscover,
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reclaim an understanding
of the foundations
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of our society, we're in
jeopardy of losing it.
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[light music]
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- Whew, you sure got to be
careful what you say nowadays
377
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so people don't get offended.
378
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Wow, I wonder who that
little scrap of paper is.
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- ♪ I'm the First Amendment,
yes, the very First Amendment ♪
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♪ And I'm found
in the Bill of Rights ♪
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♪ Well, it's a long, long time
since my ink has dried ♪
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♪ And a long, long time
since my authors died ♪
383
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♪ But I'm just as important
today as I was back then ♪
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♪ At least I hope I am ♪
385
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♪ 'Cause I defend
all your rights ♪
386
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- Gee, First Amendment,
you certainly sound important.
387
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- Call me Firsty.
I like to think I'm important,
388
00:20:00,329 --> 00:20:02,113
but I'm not so sure anymore.
389
00:20:02,201 --> 00:20:04,942
- How come people don't know
more about you, Firsty?
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- People tend to take me
for granted,
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but if it wasn't for me,
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Americans wouldn't be able
to say what they want to say.
393
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- Oh, no.
- Oh, yeah.
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Sometimes when people
speak their mind,
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other people get offended.
396
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I hope people remember why
I'm important, or I may die.
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- Die?
- Yeah, die...
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along with the rest
of your freedoms.
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♪ I'm the First Amendment,
yes, the very First Amendment ♪
400
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♪ Without me,
you'd be living in China ♪
401
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♪ In the Bill of Rights,
I'm the leadoff hit ♪
402
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♪ Read me in a museum or when
you're sitting on the sh-- ♪
403
00:20:39,238 --> 00:20:40,413
[tires screeching]
404
00:20:40,500 --> 00:20:43,154
[gunfire]
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both: Firsty!
- [groans]
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00:20:48,464 --> 00:20:51,075
- Why?
- [groaning]
407
00:20:51,162 --> 00:20:52,773
both: No!
408
00:20:55,906 --> 00:21:01,172
- Liberty is a value,
not a natural inclination.
409
00:21:01,260 --> 00:21:05,699
- Yeah, I love when I listen to
Dennis's show and somebody says,
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"Well, everyone yearns
to be free."
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- No.
- And he says, "No."
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- They yearn to be
taken care of.
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The greater yearning
of the human species
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is to be taken care of,
not to be free.
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00:21:19,930 --> 00:21:23,064
The French Revolution
and the American Revolution
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are at war with one another.
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Their motto was "Liberty,
equality, fraternity."
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That was not in our motto.
419
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We have "Liberty, in God
we trust, e pluribus unum...
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life, liberty,
and the pursuit of happiness."
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They're different values,
422
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and we have raised
a generation
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to believe that being
taken care of
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is more important
than liberty.
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49% of kids on campuses
in America today,
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according to Pew Research,
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do not believe in free speech
for hate speech.
428
00:21:55,575 --> 00:21:58,099
You know how moronic that is?
429
00:21:58,186 --> 00:22:01,145
The issue of free speech
doesn't apply to love speech.
430
00:22:01,232 --> 00:22:04,584
Nobody ever threatened
love speech.
431
00:22:04,671 --> 00:22:09,066
It's precisely the speech
you hate or you find hateful
432
00:22:09,153 --> 00:22:12,026
that needs to be protected,
but this is unknown.
433
00:22:12,113 --> 00:22:15,725
This is why we're fighting
for the soul of America.
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[applause]
435
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[somber music]
436
00:22:23,037 --> 00:22:27,824
So how many of you think people
should be free in America
437
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or on a university campus
to say whatever they want?
438
00:22:31,219 --> 00:22:36,137
One, two, three, four,
five, six, seven, eight.
439
00:22:36,224 --> 00:22:38,313
How many of you think
there should be restrictions
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on what you can say
on a campus?
441
00:22:41,751 --> 00:22:44,101
One, two, three, four, five,
six, so it's pretty much tied.
442
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So no country in the world
has had free speech
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as much as this country.
444
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In Europe, you can be arrested
if you say things
445
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that the government thinks
is hateful.
446
00:22:56,636 --> 00:22:58,072
Give me an example--
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those of you who said
that you think
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there should be restrictions,
449
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give me an example of what
450
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should not be allowed
to be said.
451
00:23:05,079 --> 00:23:08,387
- I would say, like, if you
have Nazi beliefs or values
452
00:23:08,474 --> 00:23:09,910
and you raise those
453
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because that can
make people uncomfortable.
454
00:23:11,738 --> 00:23:13,740
- Okay, that's very important.
455
00:23:13,827 --> 00:23:17,439
So I'm a Jew, and Nazis
killed six million Jews.
456
00:23:17,526 --> 00:23:19,789
That's one out of every
three Jews on Earth
457
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was annihilated
in World War II by the Nazis.
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So I have a real hatred
to Nazis,
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but I believe they should
be allowed
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to march freely in America,
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because if we say to the Nazi
today, "You can't speak,"
462
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then we'll say
to a non-Nazi tomorrow,
463
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"You can't speak either."
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And we hope that
if everybody speaks,
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the good ideas will win.
466
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- Free speech is one
of the greatest innovations
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00:23:46,773 --> 00:23:48,339
in human history.
468
00:23:48,427 --> 00:23:50,341
It's how we figured out how
to have peaceful,
469
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pluralistic societies
470
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that are endlessly creative
and free.
471
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Free speech done correctly
472
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is one of the most
exciting experiences
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you can have in your life.
474
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Throw anything out there.
We'll question anything.
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Let's figure stuff out.
It's absolutely thrilling.
476
00:24:03,224 --> 00:24:05,095
And I also think
that it's incredibly fragile.
477
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If I thought that free speech
would just be something
478
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that could defend itself,
479
00:24:09,317 --> 00:24:10,884
I wouldn't be as worried
about it,
480
00:24:10,971 --> 00:24:14,365
but humans don't really
like freedom of speech.
481
00:24:14,453 --> 00:24:16,063
They like to say they like it.
482
00:24:16,150 --> 00:24:17,934
They definitely like their own
freedom of speech.
483
00:24:18,021 --> 00:24:19,370
They don't necessarily like
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your freedom of speech
that much.
485
00:24:23,418 --> 00:24:26,726
- So we had an attorney
write CSUN a letter.
486
00:24:26,813 --> 00:24:29,511
You folks, you have a charter
which says
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that there's free speech
on your campus.
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So they had no choice.
489
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- So we're coming back, and
we're saying whatever we want.
490
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- Exactly.
491
00:24:42,611 --> 00:24:45,048
So here is exhibit A
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of a man who was raised
with white privilege.
493
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- Oh, yes.
494
00:24:51,794 --> 00:24:57,365
I got into a semi-heated debate
with a black fella
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who was on public radio,
496
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and he went on to explain
to me,
497
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I didn't know what I was
talking about
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because of my white privilege.
499
00:25:07,331 --> 00:25:09,508
And I said, "Well, let's
examine my white privilege,
500
00:25:09,595 --> 00:25:10,944
may we?"
501
00:25:11,031 --> 00:25:15,296
I did not go to college.
I worked cleaning carpets.
502
00:25:15,383 --> 00:25:19,605
Later on,
I worked on construction sites,
503
00:25:19,692 --> 00:25:23,739
not as an apprentice or a carpenter, but as a laborer--
504
00:25:23,826 --> 00:25:26,829
digging ditches, mostly cleaning up garbage.
505
00:25:26,916 --> 00:25:29,440
Whatever work donkeys were qualified to do,
506
00:25:29,528 --> 00:25:31,791
that's what I did.
507
00:25:31,878 --> 00:25:34,881
At a certain point, when I felt
like my white privilege
508
00:25:34,968 --> 00:25:37,623
wasn't kicking in at all...
[laughter]
509
00:25:37,710 --> 00:25:40,713
Mom was on food stamps
and welfare,
510
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,932
Dad was eking out a living
511
00:25:43,019 --> 00:25:45,935
and had no extra money or time
for anybody else,
512
00:25:46,022 --> 00:25:48,764
I said, "You know what would be a good job for me?
513
00:25:48,851 --> 00:25:52,463
Fireman. I'm strong. I'm eager for the fray.
514
00:25:52,551 --> 00:25:55,075
I have no qualms about my personal safety,
515
00:25:55,162 --> 00:25:58,034
and I think I would make a good fireman.
516
00:25:58,121 --> 00:26:01,168
Plus, I love chili.
517
00:26:01,255 --> 00:26:04,258
I love playing foosball,
and as far as I could tell,
518
00:26:04,345 --> 00:26:06,173
when they're not putting
out fires,
519
00:26:06,260 --> 00:26:09,480
they're eating chili
and playing foosball,"
520
00:26:09,568 --> 00:26:11,047
So I just walked over there,
and I said,
521
00:26:11,134 --> 00:26:13,920
"I'm gonna put in an
application to be a fireman,"
522
00:26:14,007 --> 00:26:15,704
and they said, "Fine."
I filled it out.
523
00:26:15,791 --> 00:26:17,532
I handed it to the guy,
and the guy said,
524
00:26:17,619 --> 00:26:19,099
"Don't hold your breath."
525
00:26:19,186 --> 00:26:20,840
And I said,
"What does that mean?"
526
00:26:20,927 --> 00:26:22,624
And he said, "We're not gonna
be getting to you
527
00:26:22,711 --> 00:26:24,278
for some years."
528
00:26:24,365 --> 00:26:27,281
And when you're 19
and you're destitute
529
00:26:27,368 --> 00:26:29,413
and your stepmom's
trying to extricate you
530
00:26:29,500 --> 00:26:31,459
from the garage
you're living in
531
00:26:31,546 --> 00:26:34,593
and you have no job
or no real income,
532
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,639
the notion of "We'll call you
in six or seven years"
533
00:26:37,726 --> 00:26:41,469
is not a buoy you cling to.
534
00:26:41,556 --> 00:26:43,906
And sure enough,
I moved out of the house.
535
00:26:43,993 --> 00:26:46,517
I was about 25, 26, five, six years
536
00:26:46,605 --> 00:26:48,694
into my carpentering career.
537
00:26:48,781 --> 00:26:50,565
My dad showed up to my apartment one day,
538
00:26:50,652 --> 00:26:52,306
and he had a letter, and he said,
539
00:26:52,393 --> 00:26:54,743
"It's from the L.A. Fire Department."
540
00:26:54,830 --> 00:26:57,528
And sure enough, there was a date to take the written test
541
00:26:57,616 --> 00:26:59,356
the following weekend.
542
00:26:59,443 --> 00:27:02,055
And I said, "I don't even
want to be a fireman anymore,
543
00:27:02,142 --> 00:27:05,580
but because I've waited
six years to be a fireman,
544
00:27:05,667 --> 00:27:07,364
I'm going down
to Hollywood High
545
00:27:07,451 --> 00:27:09,192
on 10:00 a.m. on Saturday."
546
00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:12,152
And I stood in line.
547
00:27:12,239 --> 00:27:14,763
There was a young lady, very diminutive lady,
548
00:27:14,850 --> 00:27:17,592
a small, slightly built lady behind me,
549
00:27:17,679 --> 00:27:19,463
could not tell her nationality.
550
00:27:19,550 --> 00:27:21,030
Could have been black, Latino, or mixed
551
00:27:21,117 --> 00:27:22,641
or something like that.
552
00:27:22,728 --> 00:27:24,338
Everyone around me--
I kept saying,
553
00:27:24,425 --> 00:27:25,513
"When did you put in
your application?
554
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:26,775
When did you put it in?"
555
00:27:26,862 --> 00:27:27,994
I turned around to her,
and I said,
556
00:27:28,081 --> 00:27:29,691
"When did you put in
your application?"
557
00:27:29,778 --> 00:27:31,867
And she said, "Tuesday."
558
00:27:31,954 --> 00:27:34,174
[laughter]
559
00:27:46,012 --> 00:27:47,535
- A safe space is a place
you can go to
560
00:27:47,622 --> 00:27:49,624
where it's safe
to do whatever you want.
561
00:27:49,711 --> 00:27:51,931
You can just be yourself,
and no one's gonna say
562
00:27:52,018 --> 00:27:53,976
or do anything
that makes you uncomfortable.
563
00:27:54,063 --> 00:27:56,283
- There's this myth that
when you're in a safe space,
564
00:27:56,370 --> 00:27:58,894
all you do is sing
"Kumbaya" or something.
565
00:27:58,981 --> 00:28:01,897
The reality is,
it's when you feel safe
566
00:28:01,984 --> 00:28:03,507
that you have some of the most
important
567
00:28:03,594 --> 00:28:05,031
transformative discussions,
568
00:28:05,118 --> 00:28:07,598
at least I do
when I'm in my safe spaces.
569
00:28:07,686 --> 00:28:08,991
- Once you go beyond college,
570
00:28:09,078 --> 00:28:10,906
you're gonna have
uncomfortable experiences,
571
00:28:10,993 --> 00:28:14,344
but to kind of force yourself
through pain
572
00:28:14,431 --> 00:28:16,869
and difficult experiences
is totally unnecessary.
573
00:28:18,435 --> 00:28:19,915
- See,
I never went to college.
574
00:28:20,002 --> 00:28:22,222
I was a builder,
575
00:28:22,309 --> 00:28:25,747
but I always thought college
was this place for ideas.
576
00:28:25,834 --> 00:28:27,357
And now it's turned
into a place
577
00:28:27,444 --> 00:28:30,186
for some ideas
but not other ideas,
578
00:28:30,273 --> 00:28:34,974
and that seems to fly in
the face of ideas in general.
579
00:28:35,061 --> 00:28:37,933
- For a generation that demands
safe spaces,
580
00:28:38,020 --> 00:28:41,371
that equates ideas they don't
like to actual physical battery
581
00:28:41,458 --> 00:28:43,634
and requires trigger warnings
for class assignments
582
00:28:43,722 --> 00:28:47,203
that might be upsetting,
there's a name--snowflakes.
583
00:28:47,290 --> 00:28:49,684
- We're creating
this environment
584
00:28:49,771 --> 00:28:53,949
where liberals and leftists
and progressives on campuses
585
00:28:54,036 --> 00:28:58,432
think that they need
to get government authority
586
00:28:58,519 --> 00:29:03,219
or university authority
to protect their ears
587
00:29:03,306 --> 00:29:04,699
from stuff that they don't like
588
00:29:04,786 --> 00:29:06,309
or stuff that's
actually offensive
589
00:29:06,396 --> 00:29:09,704
or that is racist or that is
sexist or that is horrible,
590
00:29:09,791 --> 00:29:12,794
and I just think that
that's a very dangerous view.
591
00:29:12,881 --> 00:29:14,665
- I'm saying this not
for conservatives.
592
00:29:14,753 --> 00:29:17,407
I'm saying this for liberals.
593
00:29:17,494 --> 00:29:22,499
They have been bubble-wrapped
in academia for 40 years.
594
00:29:22,586 --> 00:29:25,546
- When you try to create
a safe space
595
00:29:25,633 --> 00:29:30,725
in which it's difficult
to be unsettled, unnerved,
596
00:29:30,812 --> 00:29:32,553
you reinforce walls,
597
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,905
which makes it difficult for you
to cultivate the capacity
598
00:29:36,992 --> 00:29:38,907
to learn from other people,
599
00:29:38,994 --> 00:29:40,953
especially people
you disagree with.
600
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,693
- Can I just say,
it feels really nice
601
00:29:42,781 --> 00:29:44,783
to live in a bubble
for a little while.
602
00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:46,872
You feel safe.
You feel protected.
603
00:29:46,959 --> 00:29:49,222
You feel like everyone agrees
with you and you're right.
604
00:29:49,309 --> 00:29:51,311
- ♪ If you do not like me ♪
605
00:29:51,398 --> 00:29:54,880
you are not allowed
in my safe space ♪
606
00:29:54,967 --> 00:29:56,795
all:
♪ My safe space ♪
607
00:29:56,882 --> 00:29:58,535
- ♪ Look and you will see ♪
608
00:29:58,622 --> 00:30:02,670
♪ There's a very select
crowd in your safe space ♪
609
00:30:02,757 --> 00:30:04,585
all:
♪ My safe space ♪
610
00:30:04,672 --> 00:30:06,674
- ♪ People that support me ♪
611
00:30:06,761 --> 00:30:10,286
♪ Mixed in with more people
that support me ♪
612
00:30:10,373 --> 00:30:14,334
♪ And say nice things,
rainbows all around me ♪
613
00:30:14,421 --> 00:30:17,903
♪ There is no shame
in my safe space ♪
614
00:30:17,990 --> 00:30:19,643
- ♪ My safe space ♪
615
00:30:19,730 --> 00:30:21,515
- No university should
ever create
616
00:30:21,602 --> 00:30:23,647
a safe space for an idea.
617
00:30:23,734 --> 00:30:26,128
If you want to feel good,
get a massage.
618
00:30:26,215 --> 00:30:28,957
- I want every student on campus to be physically safe.
619
00:30:29,044 --> 00:30:31,177
I don't want anybody getting beat up.
620
00:30:31,264 --> 00:30:33,744
I don't want anybody getting sexually assaulted or molested.
621
00:30:33,832 --> 00:30:37,400
I don't want anybody singled out for, you know, threats,
622
00:30:37,487 --> 00:30:43,319
but if you mean emotionally
safe or intellectually safe,
623
00:30:43,406 --> 00:30:46,192
I don't know why you're
in college,
624
00:30:46,279 --> 00:30:49,586
because the whole point is that
you're going to leave soon,
625
00:30:49,673 --> 00:30:53,025
and I want you to be offended
every single day.
626
00:30:58,465 --> 00:31:01,642
all:
♪ Social Justice Warriors1♪
627
00:31:01,729 --> 00:31:03,165
♪ Get triggered ♪
628
00:31:08,823 --> 00:31:10,607
both:
Bias Response Team, go!
629
00:31:40,724 --> 00:31:43,640
all:
♪ Social Justice Warriors ♪
630
00:31:49,995 --> 00:31:51,735
- We've gotten
to a point where,
631
00:31:51,822 --> 00:31:53,607
if you say you're tolerant
all the time,
632
00:31:53,694 --> 00:31:55,696
if you talk about diversity
all the time
633
00:31:55,783 --> 00:31:57,828
and tolerance all the time,
634
00:31:57,916 --> 00:32:00,353
people somehow think that means
you are tolerant
635
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,659
and you care about diversity,
636
00:32:02,746 --> 00:32:06,011
and in almost every case
almost without fail,
637
00:32:06,098 --> 00:32:09,057
today that's actually
the reverse.
638
00:32:09,144 --> 00:32:12,495
So right now it's very in
for everyone on the left
639
00:32:12,582 --> 00:32:14,802
to talk about tolerance and
diversity and all these things,
640
00:32:14,889 --> 00:32:17,457
and what is the type
of diversity that they hate?
641
00:32:17,544 --> 00:32:18,719
Well, the type of diversity
that they hate
642
00:32:18,806 --> 00:32:20,286
is diversity of thought.
643
00:32:20,373 --> 00:32:22,375
- Dave Rubin has
every credential
644
00:32:22,462 --> 00:32:24,899
of a bona fide liberal.
645
00:32:24,986 --> 00:32:29,251
I mean, Dave Rubin is gay.
Dave Rubin is married to a man.
646
00:32:29,338 --> 00:32:33,386
Dave Rubin is a lifelong
Democrat.
647
00:32:33,473 --> 00:32:35,301
- When I talk about liberalism,
what is liberalism,
648
00:32:35,388 --> 00:32:36,824
and how is it different
than leftism?
649
00:32:36,911 --> 00:32:39,087
Liberalism really is
about the individual,
650
00:32:39,174 --> 00:32:41,002
and it's about live
and let live.
651
00:32:41,089 --> 00:32:43,874
It's not just this
amorphous idea of tolerance,
652
00:32:43,962 --> 00:32:45,746
which is what leftism is.
653
00:32:45,833 --> 00:32:47,878
That's a collectivist view
of the world,
654
00:32:47,966 --> 00:32:49,880
where we should be grouping
all of these people
655
00:32:49,968 --> 00:32:52,535
and we should be taking
from some and giving to others,
656
00:32:52,622 --> 00:32:54,798
and it is a snake
that will eat its own tail.
657
00:32:54,885 --> 00:32:56,539
- You are a liberal.
- I am.
658
00:32:56,626 --> 00:32:58,237
- We obviously have
different politics,
659
00:32:58,324 --> 00:33:00,065
but it doesn't matter.
660
00:33:00,152 --> 00:33:04,156
On freedom of speech
we are completely united.
661
00:33:04,243 --> 00:33:06,723
Do you feel right now,
ideologically,
662
00:33:06,810 --> 00:33:09,335
your biggest enemy
are conservatives or the left?
663
00:33:09,422 --> 00:33:10,640
- Oh, there's no question.
664
00:33:10,727 --> 00:33:12,642
A, my biggest enemy is
the hard left.
665
00:33:12,729 --> 00:33:15,341
B, the hard left poses
a far greater danger
666
00:33:15,428 --> 00:33:17,778
to the American future
than the hard right.
667
00:33:17,865 --> 00:33:22,652
I'm not worried about a few
dozen people with swastikas...
668
00:33:22,739 --> 00:33:23,958
- Thank you.
- Who want to replace
669
00:33:24,045 --> 00:33:25,960
the Jews
'cause they're our past.
670
00:33:26,047 --> 00:33:28,702
They have no resonance
on university campuses today.
671
00:33:28,789 --> 00:33:31,183
- Right.
- But the hard, hard left
672
00:33:31,270 --> 00:33:33,881
anti-Semitism,
anti-Christianity,
673
00:33:33,968 --> 00:33:36,840
intolerance for speech,
these are our leaders.
674
00:33:36,927 --> 00:33:38,799
When I used to teach
150 students
675
00:33:38,886 --> 00:33:40,105
in my first year
of criminal law,
676
00:33:40,192 --> 00:33:42,281
I'd look around, and I'd say,
"Future president,
677
00:33:42,368 --> 00:33:44,152
"future chief justice,
678
00:33:44,239 --> 00:33:46,372
"future editorial director
of 'The New York Times,'
679
00:33:46,459 --> 00:33:48,243
future managing partner
of Goldman Sachs."
680
00:33:48,330 --> 00:33:49,505
They're our future.
681
00:33:49,592 --> 00:33:51,203
- What's happened
to this place?
682
00:33:51,290 --> 00:33:52,682
Ah!
683
00:33:52,769 --> 00:33:54,075
[suspenseful music]
684
00:33:54,162 --> 00:33:55,598
[gasps]
685
00:33:55,685 --> 00:33:56,643
♪ ♪
686
00:33:56,730 --> 00:33:58,079
Ah!
687
00:33:58,166 --> 00:34:00,081
♪ ♪
688
00:34:00,168 --> 00:34:01,691
This was the home of ruthless
media disrupter
689
00:34:01,778 --> 00:34:03,345
Samuel F. B. Morse.
690
00:34:03,432 --> 00:34:05,826
Who's his successor,
that fellow?
691
00:34:05,913 --> 00:34:08,959
- Fellow? That word
is cisgender normative, okay?
692
00:34:09,047 --> 00:34:10,613
You're worse than Hitler!
693
00:34:10,700 --> 00:34:12,093
- Too late for flattery.
694
00:34:12,180 --> 00:34:15,009
I'm not giving this school
a dime.
695
00:34:15,836 --> 00:34:17,838
- I've seen,
over the past 30 years,
696
00:34:17,925 --> 00:34:21,494
how the university has changed
and not for the better.
697
00:34:21,581 --> 00:34:24,236
Now they don't tolerate
the other side's viewpoint,
698
00:34:24,323 --> 00:34:26,586
and there are no conservatives
that are speaking out.
699
00:34:26,673 --> 00:34:29,806
If you're conservative
at this university, good luck.
700
00:34:29,893 --> 00:34:30,851
First of all,
I don't know how--
701
00:34:30,938 --> 00:34:32,418
you're not gonna get hired.
702
00:34:32,505 --> 00:34:33,984
I don't know what department's
gonna hire you
703
00:34:34,072 --> 00:34:35,508
at what college
it's gonna hire you at.
704
00:34:35,595 --> 00:34:37,031
You're not gonna get promoted.
705
00:34:37,118 --> 00:34:38,337
There's no way that
you're gonna be accepted
706
00:34:38,424 --> 00:34:39,860
by your fellow faculty,
707
00:34:39,947 --> 00:34:42,341
and I'm telling you right now,
708
00:34:42,428 --> 00:34:44,517
they're gonna figure out
a way to get rid of you.
709
00:34:44,604 --> 00:34:46,040
I mean, they will
figure out some means
710
00:34:46,127 --> 00:34:47,955
by whatever hook and crook.
711
00:34:48,042 --> 00:34:50,349
They'll never say it's because
of your political orientation,
712
00:34:50,436 --> 00:34:52,220
but they're gonna
get rid of you.
713
00:34:52,307 --> 00:34:55,789
This is also something of an
irony, but it's also really--
714
00:34:55,876 --> 00:34:57,095
I think it's kind of dangerous
715
00:34:57,182 --> 00:34:59,271
that there's only
one worldview now
716
00:34:59,358 --> 00:35:01,534
that's allowable
in the university,
717
00:35:01,621 --> 00:35:04,014
and if you don't have that,
you better be quiet.
718
00:35:04,102 --> 00:35:06,930
- You must think like we think
and do what we do,
719
00:35:07,017 --> 00:35:08,454
and if you don't,
you're verboten.
720
00:35:08,541 --> 00:35:10,282
You're unwelcome.
You can't even speak here.
721
00:35:10,369 --> 00:35:12,806
You can't teach here.
You can't attend here.
722
00:35:12,893 --> 00:35:14,982
How in the world can we
possibly argue
723
00:35:15,069 --> 00:35:16,723
that this is academic freedom?
724
00:35:16,810 --> 00:35:18,594
It is ideological fascism.
725
00:35:18,681 --> 00:35:22,511
You must be one of us,
or you're unwelcome.
726
00:35:22,598 --> 00:35:25,862
- Is it hard to be
a conservative at Berkeley?
727
00:35:25,949 --> 00:35:27,777
Yeah, sometimes.
728
00:35:27,864 --> 00:35:29,083
- My name's Isabella Chow.
729
00:35:29,170 --> 00:35:30,606
I'm a third-year student
at UC Berkeley
730
00:35:30,693 --> 00:35:32,521
studying business and music.
731
00:35:32,608 --> 00:35:36,656
In spring 2018, I was elected
to student senate at Berkeley.
732
00:35:36,743 --> 00:35:39,311
There's a bill proposed
to our student senate
733
00:35:39,398 --> 00:35:41,269
that I felt like
I couldn't fully vote for
734
00:35:41,356 --> 00:35:42,836
because of my Christian beliefs
735
00:35:42,923 --> 00:35:44,054
and because I represented
736
00:35:44,142 --> 00:35:45,708
the Christian community
on campus.
737
00:35:45,795 --> 00:35:49,277
And so I abstained from voting
on that bill that night,
738
00:35:49,364 --> 00:35:53,020
and I gave a short statement
of why I abstained,
739
00:35:53,107 --> 00:35:56,371
and the backlash was swifter
and bigger
740
00:35:56,458 --> 00:35:58,330
than what I would have
ever imagined.
741
00:35:58,417 --> 00:36:00,288
- Senator Chow!
all: Resign now!
742
00:36:00,375 --> 00:36:02,247
- Senator Chow!
all: Resign now!
743
00:36:02,334 --> 00:36:05,598
- There were hundreds
of students that came in
744
00:36:05,685 --> 00:36:08,644
and protested the fact
that I was still a senator
745
00:36:08,731 --> 00:36:10,255
and demanded my resignation.
746
00:36:10,342 --> 00:36:12,822
- Tonight is not about
dismissing Christianity
747
00:36:12,909 --> 00:36:14,868
as universally toxic,
748
00:36:14,955 --> 00:36:17,175
but about validating
the experience of those
749
00:36:17,262 --> 00:36:20,178
at the hands of bigots who have
cowardly hid behind religion
750
00:36:20,265 --> 00:36:22,005
to justify their actions.
751
00:36:22,092 --> 00:36:23,964
- Sitting there was
really hard.
752
00:36:24,051 --> 00:36:26,793
It was just difficult
to hear the accusations
753
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,753
of people calling me a bigot,
calling me a hater.
754
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,146
I hoped that there would be
dialogue.
755
00:36:32,233 --> 00:36:33,887
I hoped that there would be
756
00:36:33,974 --> 00:36:35,584
mutual respect
and understanding.
757
00:36:35,671 --> 00:36:38,457
- When trans people are
under attack, what do we do?
758
00:36:38,544 --> 00:36:40,459
all:
Stand up, fight back!
759
00:36:40,546 --> 00:36:42,112
- At this point,
I've been disaffiliated
760
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,592
with every organization
761
00:36:43,679 --> 00:36:45,333
that I had a working
relationship with
762
00:36:45,420 --> 00:36:46,595
and voted out of clubs
that I've been in,
763
00:36:46,682 --> 00:36:48,293
like, even since
freshman year,
764
00:36:48,380 --> 00:36:52,427
but I wasn't elected to not
listen to my conscience,
765
00:36:52,514 --> 00:36:54,690
and I wasn't elected
to not represent
766
00:36:54,777 --> 00:36:57,127
a religious voice on campus,
767
00:36:57,215 --> 00:36:59,956
even if that voice
is a minority here at Berkeley.
768
00:37:02,481 --> 00:37:04,526
- I've been assaulted
on my campus.
769
00:37:04,613 --> 00:37:05,788
- You were assaulted?
770
00:37:05,875 --> 00:37:07,399
- The night after the election,
yes.
771
00:37:07,486 --> 00:37:09,618
- You were physically assaulted?
- Physically assaulted.
772
00:37:09,705 --> 00:37:12,317
I was walking back
from a meeting that I had,
773
00:37:12,404 --> 00:37:14,580
and the assumption was that
someone followed me
774
00:37:14,667 --> 00:37:16,234
out of a building,
knew where I was
775
00:37:16,321 --> 00:37:18,540
'cause I had that meeting
every single week at that time,
776
00:37:18,627 --> 00:37:22,196
and someone came up to me
and said, you know,
777
00:37:22,283 --> 00:37:25,547
"F you, racist B-word,
you support a racist party,"
778
00:37:25,634 --> 00:37:27,941
and just threw me
down the hill.
779
00:37:28,028 --> 00:37:29,812
- Was anyone prosecuted for it?
780
00:37:29,899 --> 00:37:31,292
- No.
- Mm-hmm.
781
00:37:31,379 --> 00:37:32,946
- This is what they've tricked
everybody into thinking.
782
00:37:33,033 --> 00:37:34,948
You know, years ago it was
you were a racist
783
00:37:35,035 --> 00:37:36,515
and you were a bigot.
784
00:37:36,602 --> 00:37:39,169
Then it became Nazis.
785
00:37:39,257 --> 00:37:41,868
Now it's white supremacists,
or sometimes it's Nazis,
786
00:37:41,955 --> 00:37:43,957
and they'll always ramp
this thing up.
787
00:37:44,044 --> 00:37:45,175
- I've been called
a white supremacist.
788
00:37:45,263 --> 00:37:46,873
I've been called a Nazi.
789
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,484
You know, what's crazy
about calling someone a Nazi--
790
00:37:49,571 --> 00:37:51,704
that term is so malleable these
days--
791
00:37:51,791 --> 00:37:54,968
is you can reduce them
to a, you know, inhuman form,
792
00:37:55,055 --> 00:37:57,710
and you can justify punching
them or attacking them, even.
793
00:37:57,797 --> 00:37:58,798
- You're not videoing me.
794
00:37:58,885 --> 00:38:00,147
- All right, well,
we're in public.
795
00:38:00,234 --> 00:38:02,062
So I'm just gonna video it
for my own safety
796
00:38:02,149 --> 00:38:03,585
'cause you seem really erratic.
797
00:38:03,672 --> 00:38:06,022
- You are [bleep]
encouraging violence.
798
00:38:06,109 --> 00:38:07,328
- No, I'm not.
799
00:38:07,415 --> 00:38:09,287
[objects clatter]
800
00:38:09,374 --> 00:38:11,637
- Get your [bleep] phone out
of my face, mother[bleep].
801
00:38:11,724 --> 00:38:14,379
Get your phone out
of my [bleep] face.
802
00:38:14,466 --> 00:38:16,381
[bleep] you.
[bleep] you.
803
00:38:18,383 --> 00:38:19,819
- Oh, [bleep].
804
00:38:22,822 --> 00:38:27,174
- "The Dennis Prager Show"
returns in five seconds.
805
00:38:27,261 --> 00:38:29,568
[dramatic music]
806
00:38:29,655 --> 00:38:31,700
- I want to ask you something
'cause you're so
807
00:38:31,787 --> 00:38:34,137
on top of the situation
on campuses.
808
00:38:34,224 --> 00:38:38,881
Right now if you had to grade
freedom of speech on campuses
809
00:38:38,968 --> 00:38:40,535
versus two years ago,
810
00:38:40,622 --> 00:38:42,363
would you say
it's getting worse,
811
00:38:42,450 --> 00:38:44,757
it's the same, awful, or what?
812
00:38:44,844 --> 00:38:47,368
- So what's happening is that
there's a student population
813
00:38:47,455 --> 00:38:49,109
that has been silenced,
814
00:38:49,196 --> 00:38:51,764
that has been ostracized for
their beliefs and their views.
815
00:38:51,851 --> 00:38:54,288
Make no mistake, it's not just
the free speech laws
816
00:38:54,375 --> 00:38:56,551
and the free speech zones,
but it's the culture.
817
00:38:56,638 --> 00:38:58,161
This is what's so important.
818
00:38:58,248 --> 00:38:59,989
It's what is culturally allowed
to be said
819
00:39:00,076 --> 00:39:01,426
and not allowed to be said.
820
00:39:01,513 --> 00:39:03,297
- I grew up during
the McCarthy period
821
00:39:03,384 --> 00:39:06,082
when it was the extreme right
at Brooklyn College
822
00:39:06,169 --> 00:39:09,956
which told me I had no right
to express my views,
823
00:39:10,043 --> 00:39:14,613
and it was the liberals
that were demanding free speech
824
00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:16,919
and the conservatives
that were trying to deny it.
825
00:39:17,006 --> 00:39:18,051
Today it's flipped.
826
00:39:18,138 --> 00:39:19,705
- My name is Chevy Swanson.
827
00:39:19,792 --> 00:39:21,968
I'm the president
of the College Republicans
828
00:39:22,055 --> 00:39:23,752
here at the University
of Washington.
829
00:39:23,839 --> 00:39:25,319
We wanted to invite
Joey Gibson
830
00:39:25,406 --> 00:39:26,407
from Patriot Prayer
831
00:39:26,494 --> 00:39:28,061
to come do a freedom rally.
832
00:39:28,148 --> 00:39:30,542
We expected about,
maybe 100 people at most
833
00:39:30,629 --> 00:39:32,631
in the middle
of out central area on campus,
834
00:39:32,718 --> 00:39:35,155
Red Square--ironically named.
835
00:39:35,242 --> 00:39:37,418
Protesters started making
posts on social media,
836
00:39:37,505 --> 00:39:38,767
saying they were gonna
come protest,
837
00:39:38,854 --> 00:39:41,379
and the school ramped up
security on us,
838
00:39:41,466 --> 00:39:44,207
telling us that because
we invited a speaker
839
00:39:44,294 --> 00:39:46,601
that made the protesters mad
840
00:39:46,688 --> 00:39:48,603
that we had to pay every cent
of security
841
00:39:48,690 --> 00:39:50,692
caused by the protesters.
842
00:39:50,779 --> 00:39:52,912
At first, that was $17,000,
843
00:39:52,999 --> 00:39:54,696
and that's a bill we got a week
before the event-
844
00:39:54,783 --> 00:39:56,132
an impossible bill to pay.
845
00:39:56,219 --> 00:39:59,222
- We were forced to spend
$10,000 in security.
846
00:39:59,309 --> 00:40:00,659
- The day after I submitted
my application,
847
00:40:00,746 --> 00:40:02,835
they changed the rule
848
00:40:02,922 --> 00:40:05,359
to now where if your security
costs more than $1,000,
849
00:40:05,446 --> 00:40:07,317
you must make up
the difference.
850
00:40:07,405 --> 00:40:10,233
- So they interrupt
conservatives,
851
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,714
and then conservatives
have to foot the bill?
852
00:40:12,801 --> 00:40:14,324
- The College Republicans
are actually
853
00:40:14,412 --> 00:40:16,414
under investigation right now--
854
00:40:16,501 --> 00:40:18,067
you know, causing
all these riots
855
00:40:18,154 --> 00:40:20,287
because of the speakers
we bring in.
856
00:40:20,374 --> 00:40:22,507
- You're causing the riots?
- Yeah, so...
857
00:40:22,594 --> 00:40:23,943
- Not the rioters?
858
00:40:24,030 --> 00:40:25,988
- Ann Coulter's visit
to UC Berkeley
859
00:40:26,075 --> 00:40:27,773
isn't for another month,
860
00:40:27,860 --> 00:40:29,862
but student organizers
of the event
861
00:40:29,949 --> 00:40:31,690
say they are nervous.
862
00:40:31,777 --> 00:40:34,562
- Do I support what happened
at the Milo Yiannopoulos event?
863
00:40:34,649 --> 00:40:36,695
Yes, I do, and what
we're saying this time is
864
00:40:36,782 --> 00:40:38,087
we need to come out again,
865
00:40:38,174 --> 00:40:39,088
and we need to come out
in bigger numbers.
866
00:40:39,175 --> 00:40:40,568
- Okay, let me ask you
a question here.
867
00:40:40,655 --> 00:40:42,091
Let's just say
that Rachel Maddow
868
00:40:42,178 --> 00:40:43,571
was scheduled to speak at Cal.
869
00:40:43,658 --> 00:40:46,052
And let's say that people
on the far right
870
00:40:46,139 --> 00:40:48,271
were really angry about that.
871
00:40:48,358 --> 00:40:51,057
They did not want her to speak,
and they came out,
872
00:40:51,144 --> 00:40:52,928
and they protested,
and they were violent,
873
00:40:53,015 --> 00:40:55,278
and they kept Rachel Maddow
from speaking.
874
00:40:55,365 --> 00:40:57,237
How would you feel then?
875
00:40:57,324 --> 00:40:58,978
- I'm trying to picture
that actually happening.
876
00:41:00,501 --> 00:41:01,894
- Campus police Captain
Alex Yow
877
00:41:01,981 --> 00:41:04,592
says police simply
could not guarantee
878
00:41:04,679 --> 00:41:08,074
that Coulter's originally
planned speech would be safe.
879
00:41:08,161 --> 00:41:10,859
- We're hiding in the airport
in a baseball cap.
880
00:41:10,946 --> 00:41:13,079
[chuckles]
That is exactly where we are.
881
00:41:13,166 --> 00:41:14,472
They are fascists.
882
00:41:14,559 --> 00:41:16,256
They don't want another point
of view.
883
00:41:16,343 --> 00:41:17,562
I mean, I've been doing
these college speeches
884
00:41:17,649 --> 00:41:18,737
for more than a decade.
885
00:41:18,824 --> 00:41:20,216
- On the Berkeley campus,
886
00:41:20,303 --> 00:41:22,088
College Republicans are
fighting
887
00:41:22,175 --> 00:41:24,394
to give Coulter a platform
this week.
888
00:41:24,482 --> 00:41:26,135
They filed a lawsuit Monday
889
00:41:26,222 --> 00:41:29,487
trying to force the university
to ease restrictions
890
00:41:29,574 --> 00:41:32,577
they say are only placed
on conservative speakers.
891
00:41:32,664 --> 00:41:34,100
- I think it's important
to call that what it is,
892
00:41:34,187 --> 00:41:36,581
which is essentially just
shredding the Constitution,
893
00:41:36,668 --> 00:41:37,930
or in a way that we see
happen a lot
894
00:41:38,017 --> 00:41:39,497
at Young America's Foundation
895
00:41:39,584 --> 00:41:41,281
when we're working with
students on their campuses,
896
00:41:41,368 --> 00:41:43,805
is this is the classic argument
that leftists will use
897
00:41:43,892 --> 00:41:45,415
in order to shut down
conservative speech.
898
00:41:45,503 --> 00:41:47,766
- Security is the new
"Shut up,"
899
00:41:47,853 --> 00:41:51,073
because by the time you factor
in all the security costs,
900
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:56,470
you could stage "Hello Dolly
Meets Godzilla on Ice"
901
00:41:56,557 --> 00:41:59,473
for the same cost
as bringing Charles Murray in
902
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,432
to give a 20-minute speech
to a few students.
903
00:42:04,043 --> 00:42:05,653
- I don't even--
I'm perplexed, even,
904
00:42:05,740 --> 00:42:07,133
that people could even say,
905
00:42:07,220 --> 00:42:08,830
"Oh, it's not an issue."
906
00:42:08,917 --> 00:42:12,138
It's, like, one of the biggest
issues in America today,
907
00:42:12,225 --> 00:42:14,096
that the place that is
supposed to be
908
00:42:14,183 --> 00:42:16,838
a place of ideas,
the university,
909
00:42:16,925 --> 00:42:20,755
is the most closed place
in the United States.
910
00:42:20,842 --> 00:42:24,890
It's very important for people
to understand
911
00:42:24,977 --> 00:42:27,545
that this is not just
affecting conservatives.
912
00:42:28,676 --> 00:42:30,635
Liberals are being shut down.
913
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,553
[dramatic music]
914
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,948
♪ ♪
915
00:42:40,035 --> 00:42:42,211
- I considered myself
a leftist.
916
00:42:42,298 --> 00:42:44,736
♪ ♪
917
00:42:44,823 --> 00:42:49,262
I was a teaching assistant
for Communication Studies 101.
918
00:42:49,349 --> 00:42:52,047
I wanted my students
to comprehend
919
00:42:52,134 --> 00:42:56,574
how grammar could actually be
a big issue in our society.
920
00:42:57,575 --> 00:43:00,969
To demonstrate this point,
I brought in a clip
921
00:43:01,056 --> 00:43:02,884
from TV Ontario.
922
00:43:02,971 --> 00:43:06,453
So this is the province's
public broadcaster.
923
00:43:06,540 --> 00:43:08,890
And in the particular clip
I showed,
924
00:43:08,977 --> 00:43:12,459
it was Professor
of Transgender Studies
925
00:43:12,546 --> 00:43:14,330
Nicholas Matte,
926
00:43:14,417 --> 00:43:17,812
and he was talking
to Professor Jordan Peterson
927
00:43:17,899 --> 00:43:19,466
from the University of Toronto.
928
00:43:19,553 --> 00:43:21,773
- And your attempts to regulate
my language use and--
929
00:43:21,860 --> 00:43:23,383
- I don't care about
your language use.
930
00:43:23,470 --> 00:43:27,300
I care about the safety of
the people who are being harmed.
931
00:43:27,387 --> 00:43:29,694
- I know. People who make
your kinds of arguments
932
00:43:29,781 --> 00:43:32,000
are always concerned
with other people's safety.
933
00:43:32,087 --> 00:43:33,872
- I want to have really
deep discussions
934
00:43:33,959 --> 00:43:35,569
about all sorts of issues,
935
00:43:35,656 --> 00:43:37,266
and I don't think anything
should be off-limits.
936
00:43:39,051 --> 00:43:41,923
And that is today
what makes you an evil person.
937
00:44:09,385 --> 00:44:12,475
When I showed the clip in my
class, I did not take a stance.
938
00:44:12,562 --> 00:44:13,694
I was neutral.
939
00:44:13,781 --> 00:44:15,957
I treated Peterson's argument
940
00:44:16,044 --> 00:44:18,438
just as valid
as Matte's argument,
941
00:44:18,525 --> 00:44:21,180
but that was the problem.
942
00:44:21,267 --> 00:44:23,269
It was a problem
that I was neutral.
943
00:45:03,613 --> 00:45:06,399
I was just genuinely
very confused,
944
00:45:06,486 --> 00:45:09,184
because to me,
the university is a place
945
00:45:09,271 --> 00:45:11,056
where you can
question anything.
946
00:45:58,059 --> 00:46:04,762
♪ ♪
947
00:46:04,849 --> 00:46:08,026
- Dr. Jordan Peterson refuses
to be pigeonholed.
948
00:46:08,113 --> 00:46:10,289
His new self-help book,
"12 Rules for Life,"
949
00:46:10,376 --> 00:46:12,291
is already a best seller.
950
00:46:12,378 --> 00:46:13,509
Hundreds of thousands
subscribe
951
00:46:13,596 --> 00:46:15,033
to his online lectures.
952
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,296
His speeches regularly
attract protests.
953
00:46:17,383 --> 00:46:19,515
- I'm not arguing
about your rights.
954
00:46:19,602 --> 00:46:21,735
- And his new speaking tour
is selling out.
955
00:46:21,822 --> 00:46:23,563
- I think he's dangerous
because of the sorts of people
956
00:46:23,650 --> 00:46:25,521
that he enables.
957
00:46:25,608 --> 00:46:27,219
- It's quite the place
you've got here.
958
00:46:27,306 --> 00:46:29,221
So tell me about this one.
959
00:46:29,308 --> 00:46:31,440
- It's a really nicely
built car.
960
00:46:31,527 --> 00:46:32,920
- Mm-hmm.
961
00:46:33,007 --> 00:46:35,314
Hardly looks like
it's ever been driven.
962
00:46:35,401 --> 00:46:40,188
- It's been very well taken
care of, unlike its owner.
963
00:46:40,275 --> 00:46:43,583
- Oh, yeah?
- Yeah, I've been put away wet.
964
00:46:43,670 --> 00:46:47,587
So are they gonna pass a law
in Canada outlawing pronouns?
965
00:46:47,674 --> 00:46:49,371
- Oh, it's already passed.
966
00:46:49,458 --> 00:46:51,547
If you're an advocate
of free speech,
967
00:46:51,634 --> 00:46:54,420
which you are if you're
an advocate of freedom,
968
00:46:54,507 --> 00:46:57,249
then you still might say,
"Okay, well, there are limits.
969
00:46:57,336 --> 00:46:59,904
Some of them are illegal.
I can't incite violence.
970
00:46:59,991 --> 00:47:01,862
I can't incite someone
to a crime,"
971
00:47:01,949 --> 00:47:03,472
you know,
and that's already illegal,
972
00:47:03,559 --> 00:47:04,909
so there are limits
of that sort.
973
00:47:04,996 --> 00:47:06,780
This is different.
974
00:47:06,867 --> 00:47:11,872
This is the law insisting
that you say something.
975
00:47:11,959 --> 00:47:14,657
"You use my language,"
and my response was,
976
00:47:14,744 --> 00:47:16,572
"There isn't a hope in hell
977
00:47:16,659 --> 00:47:18,400
that I will ever use
your language."
978
00:47:18,487 --> 00:47:21,403
- Once you control the language,
you control the outcome.
979
00:47:21,490 --> 00:47:23,014
- Yeah, well, that's why
I wouldn't say those words.
980
00:47:23,101 --> 00:47:24,450
It's because
that's exactly right.
981
00:47:24,537 --> 00:47:27,105
As soon as I allow you
to define the territory
982
00:47:27,192 --> 00:47:29,672
in which we're going to engage,
then you get to win.
983
00:47:29,759 --> 00:47:31,631
- There's a reason
that every time
984
00:47:31,718 --> 00:47:34,112
one of these professors or TAs,
985
00:47:34,199 --> 00:47:36,375
whether it's Lindsay Shepherd
in Canada
986
00:47:36,462 --> 00:47:38,551
or Bret Weinstein
in Washington,
987
00:47:38,638 --> 00:47:40,379
why are they all lefties
988
00:47:40,466 --> 00:47:44,078
who then say one thing
that upsets the left,
989
00:47:44,165 --> 00:47:45,297
and then they're purged?
990
00:47:45,384 --> 00:47:46,907
It will come for you.
991
00:47:46,994 --> 00:47:49,214
I mean, if there is someone
that's watching this right now
992
00:47:49,301 --> 00:47:51,129
that is a hard-core progressive
that's going,
993
00:47:51,216 --> 00:47:52,565
"Man, I hate Prager and Rubin,
994
00:47:52,652 --> 00:47:54,610
and this is all nonsense,"
guess what.
995
00:47:54,697 --> 00:47:58,092
If you have any spark
of individualism in you,
996
00:47:58,179 --> 00:48:01,879
if you have anything about you
that's interesting or different,
997
00:48:01,966 --> 00:48:03,924
they will come
to destroy that, too.
998
00:48:04,011 --> 00:48:07,058
[dramatic music]
999
00:48:07,145 --> 00:48:10,844
♪ ♪
1000
00:48:10,931 --> 00:48:12,715
- You know, most people
don't get to see
1001
00:48:12,802 --> 00:48:14,935
the thing that they love,
1002
00:48:15,022 --> 00:48:18,808
a system that has the potential
to do great good in the world,
1003
00:48:18,896 --> 00:48:20,245
be destroyed from within.
1004
00:48:20,332 --> 00:48:27,165
♪ ♪
1005
00:48:49,404 --> 00:48:51,841
[line trilling]
1006
00:48:51,929 --> 00:48:53,321
- Dean's office.
- It's Stacy Brown.
1007
00:48:53,408 --> 00:48:54,670
Is Steve around?
1008
00:48:54,757 --> 00:48:55,671
- Oh, he just walked
in the door.
1009
00:48:55,758 --> 00:48:56,672
Hang on.
- Thanks.
1010
00:49:06,987 --> 00:49:07,945
- Yeah.
1011
00:49:10,643 --> 00:49:12,862
- Stop telling people of color
they're [bleep] useless.
1012
00:49:12,950 --> 00:49:13,994
You're useless.
Get the [bleep]--
1013
00:49:14,081 --> 00:49:15,822
all:
Hey, hey! Ho, ho!
1014
00:49:15,909 --> 00:49:17,737
Bret Weinstein has got to go!
1015
00:49:17,824 --> 00:49:19,652
Hey, hey! Ho, ho!
1016
00:49:19,739 --> 00:49:21,697
Bret Weinstein has got to go!
1017
00:49:21,784 --> 00:49:24,700
♪ ♪
1018
00:49:24,787 --> 00:49:28,008
- I think we did not see,
effectively,
1019
00:49:28,095 --> 00:49:30,489
a coup in the institution
coming,
1020
00:49:30,576 --> 00:49:33,057
and we didn't feel
vulnerable to it
1021
00:49:33,144 --> 00:49:37,713
because we were both
very popular among students
1022
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,804
and we had the equivalent
of tenure.
1023
00:49:41,891 --> 00:49:45,286
- Weinstein, who identifies
as politically left,
1024
00:49:45,373 --> 00:49:48,028
had announced he was
boycotting a decades-old event
1025
00:49:48,115 --> 00:49:50,726
created by students of color
at the school.
1026
00:49:50,813 --> 00:49:54,382
- Day of Absence was a
tradition on Evergreen's campus
1027
00:49:54,469 --> 00:49:57,995
from very nearly the founding
of the college.
1028
00:49:58,082 --> 00:50:02,042
Day of Absence is named after
a play by Douglas Turner Ward,
1029
00:50:02,129 --> 00:50:03,870
a black playwright,
1030
00:50:03,957 --> 00:50:05,698
and the premise of the play
1031
00:50:05,785 --> 00:50:08,788
is that in a fictional
Southern town
1032
00:50:08,875 --> 00:50:12,444
the black population
decides not to show up one day
1033
00:50:12,531 --> 00:50:14,750
in order to make the point
to the white population
1034
00:50:14,837 --> 00:50:17,275
about the important role
that they are playing.
1035
00:50:17,362 --> 00:50:21,844
Last year the committee that
organizes the Day of Absence
1036
00:50:21,931 --> 00:50:23,759
announced in a faculty
meeting--
1037
00:50:23,846 --> 00:50:25,718
a faculty meeting in which
there was no opportunity
1038
00:50:25,805 --> 00:50:27,807
to ask any questions--
1039
00:50:27,894 --> 00:50:31,115
they announced that
white people were being asked
1040
00:50:31,202 --> 00:50:33,421
to leave the campus
for the day.
1041
00:50:33,508 --> 00:50:36,381
And it was so strange
to hear that announced,
1042
00:50:36,468 --> 00:50:38,513
that I assumed
I had misunderstood
1043
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,385
what had been said,
1044
00:50:40,472 --> 00:50:43,301
and then the administration
of the college made it clear
1045
00:50:43,388 --> 00:50:46,739
that they were strongly
encouraging white people
1046
00:50:46,826 --> 00:50:49,568
not to come to school
on that day
1047
00:50:49,655 --> 00:50:53,093
in an effort to
"Center people of color."
1048
00:50:53,180 --> 00:50:55,400
I found this offensive.
1049
00:50:55,487 --> 00:50:57,663
This was not, as
it was being portrayed,
1050
00:50:57,750 --> 00:50:59,317
a simple flip of the script
1051
00:50:59,404 --> 00:51:00,927
where instead of people
of color,
1052
00:51:01,014 --> 00:51:02,276
it was white people this time.
1053
00:51:02,363 --> 00:51:05,192
This was people organizing
this protest
1054
00:51:05,279 --> 00:51:07,673
telling others not to show up
to a public college
1055
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,327
on a particular day
1056
00:51:09,414 --> 00:51:11,024
because of the color
of their skin,
1057
00:51:11,111 --> 00:51:14,419
which is anathema
to me as a liberal,
1058
00:51:14,506 --> 00:51:16,595
so I said so.
1059
00:51:16,682 --> 00:51:18,771
There was a backlash
over email.
1060
00:51:18,858 --> 00:51:22,166
My email went to the staff
and faculty email list.
1061
00:51:22,253 --> 00:51:24,168
There were students who worked
on campus
1062
00:51:24,255 --> 00:51:25,821
who were on that list,
which I was aware of,
1063
00:51:25,908 --> 00:51:27,562
and I just simply said,
1064
00:51:27,649 --> 00:51:29,782
"This is unacceptable,
and you can expect me
1065
00:51:29,869 --> 00:51:32,001
to be on campus on that day."
1066
00:51:32,089 --> 00:51:35,831
Tuesday, May 23rd of 2017,
1067
00:51:35,918 --> 00:51:37,485
I went to work.
1068
00:51:37,572 --> 00:51:40,140
I biked in as I always did.
1069
00:51:40,227 --> 00:51:43,056
I began teaching
my morning class,
1070
00:51:43,143 --> 00:51:48,148
and a student who I knew
pretty well from a past program
1071
00:51:48,235 --> 00:51:50,455
called me over a bit concerned
and said,
1072
00:51:50,542 --> 00:51:52,457
"Do you know that there
are people outside the door
1073
00:51:52,544 --> 00:51:56,417
chanting for you to be fired?"
1074
00:51:56,504 --> 00:51:59,203
And I said,
"No, that's pretty odd."
1075
00:52:23,357 --> 00:52:25,446
What shocked me was that
1076
00:52:25,533 --> 00:52:28,232
they were not at all
interested in that discussion.
1077
00:52:28,319 --> 00:52:31,104
If somebody who was the object
of a protest
1078
00:52:31,191 --> 00:52:32,975
that we were participating in
1079
00:52:33,062 --> 00:52:36,327
wanted to talk to us about
the nature of that protest,
1080
00:52:36,414 --> 00:52:37,850
I would have been right there.
1081
00:52:37,937 --> 00:52:39,634
So how is it that
I was being protested
1082
00:52:39,721 --> 00:52:41,636
by people who
weren't interested
1083
00:52:41,723 --> 00:52:43,638
in even engaging me
on the question
1084
00:52:43,725 --> 00:52:45,423
and showing me
that I might be wrong?
1085
00:52:45,510 --> 00:52:49,340
It would be weeks before I
would understand why that was.
1086
00:52:51,211 --> 00:52:53,126
all: These racist teachers
got to go!
1087
00:52:53,213 --> 00:52:55,259
Hey, hey! Ho, ho!
1088
00:52:55,346 --> 00:52:57,217
These racist teachers
got to go!
1089
00:52:57,304 --> 00:52:59,088
Hey, hey! Ho, ho!
1090
00:52:59,176 --> 00:53:01,178
These racist teachers
got to go!
1091
00:53:01,265 --> 00:53:03,136
Hey, hey! Ho, ho!
1092
00:53:03,223 --> 00:53:05,486
These racist teachers
got to go!
1093
00:53:10,317 --> 00:53:13,973
- Protesters then engaged
the president of the college
1094
00:53:14,060 --> 00:53:17,281
and got him to agree
to a meeting.
1095
00:53:21,676 --> 00:53:24,331
I decided that I should be
at that meeting.
1096
00:53:24,418 --> 00:53:27,160
If they were calling
for my firing,
1097
00:53:27,247 --> 00:53:29,336
I wanted to be there
to answer the charges.
1098
00:53:29,423 --> 00:53:31,338
I found a seat and sat down.
1099
00:53:31,425 --> 00:53:32,992
Within a couple of minutes,
1100
00:53:33,079 --> 00:53:35,342
there was an announcement
by protesters,
1101
00:53:35,429 --> 00:53:38,693
who were clearly in complete
charge of this meeting,
1102
00:53:38,780 --> 00:53:42,915
saying that the food and water
that was available,
1103
00:53:43,002 --> 00:53:45,613
publicly supplied,
were for people of color,
1104
00:53:45,700 --> 00:53:47,267
and that white people should not
avail themselves
1105
00:53:47,354 --> 00:53:49,095
of those things.
1106
00:53:49,182 --> 00:53:50,705
That was the tenor
of the meeting.
1107
00:53:54,318 --> 00:53:55,623
[cheers and applause]
1108
00:53:55,710 --> 00:53:57,408
- So I was here,
1109
00:53:57,495 --> 00:54:00,846
and I get this text from Bret,
two of them, actually.
1110
00:54:00,933 --> 00:54:02,674
The first one says,
1111
00:54:02,761 --> 00:54:05,633
"They say I may not be
allowed to leave."
1112
00:54:05,720 --> 00:54:08,897
The second one,
"I'm not sure what to do."
1113
00:54:08,984 --> 00:54:11,030
And then silence.
1114
00:54:11,117 --> 00:54:12,466
I heard from one dean
1115
00:54:12,553 --> 00:54:14,512
before I knew anything
about what had happened,
1116
00:54:14,599 --> 00:54:16,253
and that dean's concern
1117
00:54:16,340 --> 00:54:18,298
was that Bret not talk
to the press.
1118
00:54:18,385 --> 00:54:19,952
That was the concern
from the college,
1119
00:54:20,039 --> 00:54:22,433
that if any of the press
came calling,
1120
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,392
he should send them
to college PR.
1121
00:54:25,479 --> 00:54:28,569
- At the end of the meeting,
I was allowed to leave,
1122
00:54:28,656 --> 00:54:33,705
and I left the building
with a number of my students,
1123
00:54:33,792 --> 00:54:37,186
and I was flanked
by a number of other people
1124
00:54:37,274 --> 00:54:40,146
who wanted to talk to me
for various reasons,
1125
00:54:40,233 --> 00:54:43,062
including one young woman
1126
00:54:43,149 --> 00:54:46,457
who I think in some ways
1127
00:54:46,544 --> 00:54:50,199
had not gotten the message that
talking to me was not allowed.
1128
00:54:50,287 --> 00:54:55,117
The next day the protesters
made a point
1129
00:54:55,204 --> 00:54:59,818
of bringing her to a rally
1130
00:54:59,905 --> 00:55:01,646
that they had organized
on campus
1131
00:55:01,733 --> 00:55:04,866
and having her read
a statement
1132
00:55:04,953 --> 00:55:07,260
that they had
prepared publicly,
1133
00:55:07,347 --> 00:55:10,176
and it's heart-wrenching
for me.
1134
00:55:10,263 --> 00:55:13,135
She read this statement,
and she butchered it.
1135
00:55:13,222 --> 00:55:14,876
Reading out loud maybe
in front of a group
1136
00:55:14,963 --> 00:55:18,053
was not in her skill set.
1137
00:55:18,140 --> 00:55:23,363
- Based on false,
racially charged alleged--
1138
00:55:23,450 --> 00:55:25,191
allegations.
1139
00:55:25,278 --> 00:55:27,236
- They effectively
humiliated her
1140
00:55:27,324 --> 00:55:29,804
in order to demonstrate that
1141
00:55:29,891 --> 00:55:33,155
they had recaptured her
in some way.
1142
00:55:33,242 --> 00:55:37,551
- Whereas the college
administration specific--
1143
00:55:37,638 --> 00:55:39,510
[mumbling]
Sorry.
1144
00:55:39,597 --> 00:55:42,121
- There are a lot of moments
that are
1145
00:55:42,208 --> 00:55:44,297
particularly telling
from the protest,
1146
00:55:44,384 --> 00:55:47,996
but I must say, that is among
the most chilling to me.
1147
00:55:48,083 --> 00:55:51,957
♪ ♪
1148
00:55:52,044 --> 00:55:54,438
- It's our students
that are stopping people.
1149
00:55:55,264 --> 00:55:57,832
- Oh, our students
that are stopping people.
1150
00:55:57,919 --> 00:56:00,182
Why aren't we stopping them
from stopping people?
1151
00:56:00,269 --> 00:56:05,449
- Because the president
has told Stacy to stand down.
1152
00:56:05,536 --> 00:56:07,755
- I biked this direction,
1153
00:56:07,842 --> 00:56:11,150
which to this point is
my normal commute.
1154
00:56:11,237 --> 00:56:12,978
I saw people that I recognized
1155
00:56:13,065 --> 00:56:15,459
from the protest
the day before.
1156
00:56:15,546 --> 00:56:16,982
They saw me,
1157
00:56:17,069 --> 00:56:20,289
and they appeared to start
1158
00:56:20,377 --> 00:56:22,466
doing something
with their phones,
1159
00:56:22,553 --> 00:56:25,643
and I kept biking,
1160
00:56:25,730 --> 00:56:28,297
and then I realized,
"That just doesn't feel right,"
1161
00:56:28,385 --> 00:56:31,083
and I took the next entrance
into campus,
1162
00:56:31,170 --> 00:56:33,564
and I went to the police
station, and I said,
1163
00:56:33,651 --> 00:56:35,348
"Here's what I think
I experienced,
1164
00:56:35,435 --> 00:56:38,133
but I must be imagining it."
1165
00:56:38,220 --> 00:56:40,484
And she said, "I don't think
you're imagining it.
1166
00:56:40,571 --> 00:56:44,226
"I think they're looking
for you, and what's more...
1167
00:56:44,313 --> 00:56:46,054
"I can't protect you.
1168
00:56:46,141 --> 00:56:48,187
"You're not safe on campus,
1169
00:56:48,274 --> 00:56:50,755
and you're not safe anywhere
in town on your bicycle."
1170
00:56:50,842 --> 00:56:57,675
♪ ♪
1171
00:57:00,591 --> 00:57:03,550
I think it's pretty clear
what happened at Evergreen
1172
00:57:03,637 --> 00:57:06,379
is an extreme case,
1173
00:57:06,466 --> 00:57:09,338
and I've heard people
dismiss it on that basis,
1174
00:57:09,426 --> 00:57:11,906
that it was just a very
liberal campus
1175
00:57:11,993 --> 00:57:14,169
that went farther off
the deep end than any other,
1176
00:57:14,256 --> 00:57:16,563
and I think that's really
a mistake.
1177
00:57:16,650 --> 00:57:19,784
In some ways, Evergreen
is a preview of what's coming.
1178
00:57:19,871 --> 00:57:21,699
The fact that this
is happening
1179
00:57:21,786 --> 00:57:24,832
across so many campuses
1180
00:57:24,919 --> 00:57:28,488
means that it is going
to spread
1181
00:57:28,575 --> 00:57:31,056
into every quadrant
of society,
1182
00:57:31,143 --> 00:57:33,667
and things are going
to get worse elsewhere.
1183
00:57:33,754 --> 00:57:37,671
So Evergreen is describing
a future
1184
00:57:37,758 --> 00:57:39,891
that is rapidly approaching.
1185
00:57:39,978 --> 00:57:42,850
[explosion, siren wailing]
1186
00:57:42,937 --> 00:57:46,811
♪ ♪
1187
00:57:46,898 --> 00:57:51,511
- These ideas have sort of
contaminated the campuses,
1188
00:57:51,598 --> 00:57:53,252
but how are they getting
off the campus
1189
00:57:53,339 --> 00:57:54,645
and into the mainstream?
1190
00:57:54,732 --> 00:57:56,081
- Well, they're partly
doing that
1191
00:57:56,168 --> 00:57:58,518
because the mainstream
will be run
1192
00:57:58,605 --> 00:58:00,564
by the people who are
on campuses,
1193
00:58:00,651 --> 00:58:03,044
but there's a more
conspiratorial element
1194
00:58:03,131 --> 00:58:04,829
to it than that.
1195
00:58:04,916 --> 00:58:06,874
It's like, it's very important
to remember
1196
00:58:06,961 --> 00:58:08,920
that the most politically
correct disciplines
1197
00:58:09,007 --> 00:58:11,096
are producing activists.
1198
00:58:11,183 --> 00:58:13,011
That's their goal,
1199
00:58:13,098 --> 00:58:16,884
and so they have a stated goal
of infiltrating organizations
1200
00:58:16,971 --> 00:58:19,234
and altering them in the
politically correct direction.
1201
00:58:19,321 --> 00:58:21,149
- Once we've created
an expectation,
1202
00:58:21,236 --> 00:58:23,630
that it's a nice thing
to do to censor people
1203
00:58:23,717 --> 00:58:25,937
in an enlightened way,
there's no reason to believe
1204
00:58:26,024 --> 00:58:27,155
that they're not gonna
construct a world
1205
00:58:27,242 --> 00:58:28,548
that looks like that,
1206
00:58:28,635 --> 00:58:30,724
and that is not a good world
for dissent.
1207
00:58:30,811 --> 00:58:32,726
That's not a good world
for oddballs.
1208
00:58:32,813 --> 00:58:34,902
It certainly isn't
a good world for comedians.
1209
00:58:34,989 --> 00:58:36,643
- Bill Belichick,
the most confident coach
1210
00:58:36,730 --> 00:58:38,515
of all time, right?
1211
00:58:38,602 --> 00:58:41,518
Most coaches are like,
"I want raw athletes,
1212
00:58:41,605 --> 00:58:46,174
raw talent, sheer athleticism."
1213
00:58:46,261 --> 00:58:49,090
And Belichick's like, "Yeah,
that's cool. You got any Jews?"
1214
00:58:49,177 --> 00:58:52,703
[laughter]
1215
00:58:52,790 --> 00:58:56,315
Yeah, Jews, like,
five, six Jews.
1216
00:58:56,402 --> 00:58:58,404
No, we got, like, 6'4"
black dudes. No, no, too easy.
1217
00:58:58,491 --> 00:59:01,363
A Mexican,
you got a Mexican?"
1218
00:59:01,450 --> 00:59:02,930
Give me a place
with no free speech,
1219
00:59:03,017 --> 00:59:04,715
and I'll tell you,
unfunny people.
1220
00:59:04,802 --> 00:59:09,371
Russian comedy is--there's
a doll, and then you open it,
1221
00:59:09,458 --> 00:59:11,025
and then there's a little doll,
1222
00:59:11,112 --> 00:59:13,811
and then, wait for it,
you open that little doll,
1223
00:59:13,898 --> 00:59:15,726
and there's an even
smaller doll.
1224
00:59:15,813 --> 00:59:18,206
This is highbrow
Russian comedy,
1225
00:59:18,293 --> 00:59:19,643
is little doll, little doll,
1226
00:59:19,730 --> 00:59:21,166
little doll,
little doll, right?
1227
00:59:21,253 --> 00:59:23,385
And it's funny to them
every single time it opens.
1228
00:59:23,472 --> 00:59:24,778
There's another little doll,
1229
00:59:24,865 --> 00:59:26,345
and they can't get enough,
oh, my God.
1230
00:59:26,432 --> 00:59:28,216
That's no-free-speech comedy.
1231
00:59:28,303 --> 00:59:30,088
- I know what
microaggressions are.
1232
00:59:30,175 --> 00:59:32,438
It's the latest liberal attack
at free speech
1233
00:59:32,525 --> 00:59:35,267
and a lot of fun
if you do them right.
1234
00:59:35,354 --> 00:59:36,747
- The university has
a list of stuff
1235
00:59:36,834 --> 00:59:38,052
they don't allow speakers
to say,
1236
00:59:38,139 --> 00:59:39,663
you know,
to protect the students.
1237
00:59:39,750 --> 00:59:42,143
- From what, ideas?
1238
00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:43,841
- Allen is responding
to the show's
1239
00:59:43,928 --> 00:59:45,843
unexpected cancellation.
1240
00:59:45,930 --> 00:59:47,714
Some say the show was axed
1241
00:59:47,801 --> 00:59:50,717
because of its portrayal of
conservative Christian values.
1242
00:59:50,804 --> 00:59:52,023
- If it was a bomb,
you could understand,
1243
00:59:52,110 --> 00:59:54,155
but the sitcom was ABC's
1244
00:59:54,242 --> 00:59:56,288
second-highest-rated comedy
this season.
1245
00:59:59,508 --> 01:00:02,207
- Isn't it spooky that
we're having this discussion?
1246
01:00:02,294 --> 01:00:03,208
- Yes.
- Yes.
1247
01:00:03,295 --> 01:00:04,688
- But we have to have it.
1248
01:00:04,775 --> 01:00:06,341
- I understand,
but it's just kind of spooky
1249
01:00:06,428 --> 01:00:09,431
that it's even a thing that
you're even thinking about,
1250
01:00:09,518 --> 01:00:11,042
that we have to be modulated,
1251
01:00:11,129 --> 01:00:13,653
and I'm a little worried
about it,
1252
01:00:13,740 --> 01:00:16,351
a little alarmed
about things I cannot say.
1253
01:00:16,438 --> 01:00:18,702
I do it anyway because
the thing I've always loved
1254
01:00:18,789 --> 01:00:21,313
about this is it's people,
money, and me.
1255
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:22,619
There's no middleman in this.
1256
01:00:22,706 --> 01:00:24,925
Essentially, I'm running
the show at that moment.
1257
01:00:25,012 --> 01:00:27,362
But it is weird
that I'm thinking a little bit.
1258
01:00:27,449 --> 01:00:29,713
- We as comedians,
the whole point
1259
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,193
of what we're doing
on stage with our words
1260
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,718
is to make a point
about the absurdities of life.
1261
01:00:34,805 --> 01:00:36,937
- Right.
- Like, I have a joke about,
1262
01:00:37,024 --> 01:00:38,896
you know, being comfortable
with my size, you know,
1263
01:00:38,983 --> 01:00:40,332
and I say, "It depends on where
I'm geographically,
1264
01:00:40,419 --> 01:00:42,160
"and if I'm in New York,
I'm pleasantly plump.
1265
01:00:42,247 --> 01:00:43,988
If I'm in L.A.,
I'm a beached whale."
1266
01:00:44,075 --> 01:00:46,947
I say if I'm in the Midwest,
I'm anorexic, and it's awesome.
1267
01:00:47,034 --> 01:00:48,688
- Right.
- And then I've had someone
1268
01:00:48,775 --> 01:00:50,081
come up to me after a show
and be like,
1269
01:00:50,168 --> 01:00:52,431
"You know, I was bulimic
in high school, and--"
1270
01:00:52,518 --> 01:00:53,867
- Right.
- I'm like, "Okay, calm down.
1271
01:00:53,954 --> 01:00:56,435
"That wasn't about you,
first of all.
1272
01:00:56,522 --> 01:00:59,307
It was a joke, and that's
what I'm up here to do."
1273
01:00:59,394 --> 01:01:03,485
- How accountable can we be
1274
01:01:03,572 --> 01:01:07,446
when you are, in real time,
trying to create humor?
1275
01:01:07,533 --> 01:01:10,579
And as I explain to people
all the time...
1276
01:01:10,667 --> 01:01:14,366
the sort of foundation of humor
is negative.
1277
01:01:14,453 --> 01:01:16,237
So, if you said,
1278
01:01:16,324 --> 01:01:18,675
"What do you think
of your mother-in-law, Adam?"
1279
01:01:18,762 --> 01:01:21,373
And I was on stage and I went,
"She's a delight.
1280
01:01:21,460 --> 01:01:24,158
Megan's a delight."
[laughter]
1281
01:01:24,245 --> 01:01:25,638
We're not hearing any laugh.
1282
01:01:25,725 --> 01:01:28,075
We're hearing laughs now
because we know how absurd.
1283
01:01:28,162 --> 01:01:29,773
You are free-forming it,
1284
01:01:29,860 --> 01:01:33,385
and you are responsible
to the 300 people
1285
01:01:33,472 --> 01:01:35,779
who put down 30 bucks
to come see you
1286
01:01:35,866 --> 01:01:37,432
and want to have a laugh.
1287
01:01:37,519 --> 01:01:39,521
- It's way easier to be
against something,
1288
01:01:39,608 --> 01:01:41,219
but defining what you're for--
1289
01:01:41,306 --> 01:01:43,090
- Defining what you're for.
What do you want?
1290
01:01:43,177 --> 01:01:44,744
What's the point of this?
1291
01:01:44,831 --> 01:01:47,486
And I say that because I--
back to comedy--
1292
01:01:47,573 --> 01:01:49,836
- To feel good.
- I can't do college campuses
1293
01:01:49,923 --> 01:01:52,665
because the first
couple sentences,
1294
01:01:52,752 --> 01:01:54,188
they're going, "Ooh."
1295
01:01:54,275 --> 01:01:57,496
Already I've got this image
of me, that I said,
1296
01:01:57,583 --> 01:02:00,368
"Listen, I've been doing comedy
for 32 years,
1297
01:02:00,455 --> 01:02:01,892
mostly about men and women."
1298
01:02:01,979 --> 01:02:03,110
That's essentially what
I've been doing,
1299
01:02:03,197 --> 01:02:04,633
and I still have to explain,
1300
01:02:04,721 --> 01:02:06,200
"This is a man's perspective."
1301
01:02:06,287 --> 01:02:09,464
- I do this joke about...
1302
01:02:09,551 --> 01:02:12,511
the way people need to justify
their cell phone.
1303
01:02:12,598 --> 01:02:15,209
I need to have it with me
because people are so important.
1304
01:02:15,296 --> 01:02:16,820
- Right.
- You know, I said, "Well,
1305
01:02:16,907 --> 01:02:18,778
they don't seem very important,
the way you scroll through them
1306
01:02:18,865 --> 01:02:21,781
like a gay French king,
you know, just--"
1307
01:02:21,868 --> 01:02:24,436
[laughter and applause]
1308
01:02:24,523 --> 01:02:26,655
Well...
1309
01:02:26,743 --> 01:02:28,440
- That's very offensive
to the gay French kings.
1310
01:02:28,527 --> 01:02:30,007
- Well, yeah.
1311
01:02:30,094 --> 01:02:32,270
I did this line recently
1312
01:02:32,357 --> 01:02:34,272
in front of an audience,
and you could--
1313
01:02:34,359 --> 01:02:36,796
comedy's where you can kind
of feel, like, an opinion,
1314
01:02:36,883 --> 01:02:38,493
and they thought,
1315
01:02:38,580 --> 01:02:40,452
"What do you mean, gay?
What are you talking about, gay?
1316
01:02:40,539 --> 01:02:42,541
"What are you saying, gay?
What are you doing?
1317
01:02:42,628 --> 01:02:44,761
What do you mean?"
You know?
1318
01:02:44,848 --> 01:02:46,197
And I thought,
"Are you kidding me?
1319
01:02:46,284 --> 01:02:47,764
I mean, we can't even--"
1320
01:02:47,851 --> 01:02:49,461
- [laughs]
1321
01:02:49,548 --> 01:02:51,942
- I can imagine a time--
and this is a serious thing.
1322
01:02:52,029 --> 01:02:53,421
I can imagine a time
where people say,
1323
01:02:53,508 --> 01:02:55,902
"Well, that's offensive
to suggest
1324
01:02:55,989 --> 01:03:00,211
"that a gay person moves their
hands in a flourishing motion,
1325
01:03:00,298 --> 01:03:01,821
and you now need to apologi--"
1326
01:03:01,908 --> 01:03:05,564
I mean, there's a creepy
PC thing out there
1327
01:03:05,651 --> 01:03:07,131
that really bothers me.
1328
01:03:07,218 --> 01:03:09,698
- Kevin Hart has stepped down
1329
01:03:09,786 --> 01:03:11,962
from hosting
this year's Oscars.
1330
01:03:12,049 --> 01:03:17,663
- I swear, man, our world
is becoming beyond crazy.
1331
01:03:17,750 --> 01:03:19,926
My team calls me,
"Oh, my God, Kevin,
1332
01:03:20,013 --> 01:03:23,843
the world is upset about tweets
you did years ago."
1333
01:03:24,409 --> 01:03:26,150
- You have the right
to remain silent.
1334
01:03:26,237 --> 01:03:28,630
children: Anything you say
will be used against you.
1335
01:03:28,717 --> 01:03:31,590
Your posts on Facebook,
Twitter, and social media
1336
01:03:31,677 --> 01:03:33,461
will be saved to shame you.
1337
01:03:33,548 --> 01:03:35,942
You can't be funny.
You cannot think differently.
1338
01:03:36,029 --> 01:03:38,162
You can't challenge us.
1339
01:03:38,249 --> 01:03:41,339
We reserve the right
to be offended by everything.
1340
01:03:41,426 --> 01:03:43,297
You have the right
to remain silent.
1341
01:03:43,384 --> 01:03:45,604
- It cannot help
but be true that
1342
01:03:45,691 --> 01:03:47,475
if this is allowed to continue,
1343
01:03:47,562 --> 01:03:49,477
that it is going to work
its way
1344
01:03:49,564 --> 01:03:53,003
into the entire apparatus
of government,
1345
01:03:53,090 --> 01:03:55,309
journalism,
maybe most seriously,
1346
01:03:55,396 --> 01:03:57,529
into the tech sector,
1347
01:03:57,616 --> 01:04:00,924
which has become
the governance apparatus
1348
01:04:01,011 --> 01:04:02,751
for the new public square.
1349
01:04:02,839 --> 01:04:06,364
YouTube and Google,
Facebook and Twitter
1350
01:04:06,451 --> 01:04:08,888
dictate whose voices
can be heard,
1351
01:04:08,975 --> 01:04:11,978
and if those entities
start trying
1352
01:04:12,065 --> 01:04:14,372
to engineer the conversation
1353
01:04:14,459 --> 01:04:16,940
to adhere to the rules laid out
1354
01:04:17,027 --> 01:04:21,161
with these phony
Trojan horse terms,
1355
01:04:21,248 --> 01:04:23,381
disaster will be the result.
1356
01:04:24,861 --> 01:04:26,384
- Facebook is a place
1357
01:04:26,471 --> 01:04:28,473
where more than
a billion people worldwide
1358
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,215
come to share
their thoughts and feelings.
1359
01:04:31,302 --> 01:04:32,999
Sometimes they post content
1360
01:04:33,086 --> 01:04:35,610
that's upsetting
or insensitive,
1361
01:04:35,697 --> 01:04:38,613
and some of those things
can make people feel unsafe,
1362
01:04:38,700 --> 01:04:42,095
like bullying, hate speech,
or violence.
1363
01:04:42,182 --> 01:04:44,489
That's why we have
global community standards
1364
01:04:44,576 --> 01:04:48,275
to decide what
and who should be removed.
1365
01:04:48,362 --> 01:04:50,669
- ♪ I can't say nothing,
nothing ♪
1366
01:04:50,756 --> 01:04:52,584
♪ Shut up, shut up,
don't want to open my mouth ♪
1367
01:04:52,671 --> 01:04:54,499
♪ I can't say nothing,
nothing ♪
1368
01:04:54,586 --> 01:04:56,675
♪ Shut up, shut up,
don't want to open my mouth ♪
1369
01:04:56,762 --> 01:05:00,505
- Can you define hate speech?
1370
01:05:00,592 --> 01:05:04,030
- Senator, I think that this is
a really hard question,
1371
01:05:04,117 --> 01:05:05,292
and I think it's one
of the reasons
1372
01:05:05,379 --> 01:05:06,641
why we struggle with it.
1373
01:05:06,728 --> 01:05:08,295
- I'm worried about
the psychological categories
1374
01:05:08,382 --> 01:05:09,775
around speech.
1375
01:05:09,862 --> 01:05:12,517
You used language of safety
and protection earlier.
1376
01:05:12,604 --> 01:05:14,040
We see this happening
on college campuses
1377
01:05:14,127 --> 01:05:15,520
all across the country.
1378
01:05:15,607 --> 01:05:16,913
It's dangerous.
1379
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,394
40% of Americans
under age 35 tell pollsters
1380
01:05:20,481 --> 01:05:22,353
they think the First Amendment
is dangerous
1381
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:23,789
because you might
use your freedom
1382
01:05:23,876 --> 01:05:25,878
to say something that hurts
somebody else's feelings.
1383
01:05:25,965 --> 01:05:29,403
- We have a problem,
in that our public dialogue
1384
01:05:29,490 --> 01:05:33,190
is passing
through private servers
1385
01:05:33,277 --> 01:05:35,061
where no protections exist.
1386
01:05:35,148 --> 01:05:40,023
In other words, if you are not
able to access the Internet
1387
01:05:40,110 --> 01:05:41,459
in the same way
as someone else
1388
01:05:41,546 --> 01:05:43,200
because the content
of what you are saying
1389
01:05:43,287 --> 01:05:45,985
has been deemed unacceptable,
1390
01:05:46,072 --> 01:05:50,337
then that shapes
the conversation
1391
01:05:50,424 --> 01:05:52,513
that we are having
with each other.
1392
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:56,256
- PragerU had a billion views
last year.
1393
01:05:56,343 --> 01:05:59,390
This impact has
apparently disturbed
1394
01:05:59,477 --> 01:06:01,522
some of the folks at YouTube,
1395
01:06:01,609 --> 01:06:03,611
which is owned by Google.
1396
01:06:03,698 --> 01:06:08,355
Believe it or not, over 100
Prager University videos
1397
01:06:08,442 --> 01:06:10,227
are on the restricted list,
1398
01:06:10,314 --> 01:06:12,446
meaning that, in effect,
1399
01:06:12,533 --> 01:06:15,406
they are lumped with violence
and pornography
1400
01:06:15,493 --> 01:06:19,149
as unwatchable by children,
libraries, and schools.
1401
01:06:19,236 --> 01:06:21,325
So, for example, Churchill,
1402
01:06:21,412 --> 01:06:23,980
the man who saved
the free world--
1403
01:06:24,067 --> 01:06:25,938
Oh, my God,
everybody understands
1404
01:06:26,025 --> 01:06:27,896
why that'll be
on the restricted list.
1405
01:06:27,984 --> 01:06:30,943
The Iran nuclear deal.
Are you kidding?
1406
01:06:31,030 --> 01:06:33,337
That's the modern
"Debbie Does Dallas."
1407
01:06:33,424 --> 01:06:36,427
It shows you how convoluted
their moral compass is
1408
01:06:36,514 --> 01:06:38,603
that this would disturb them.
1409
01:06:38,690 --> 01:06:40,779
- Among those that are
censored include a video
1410
01:06:40,866 --> 01:06:42,302
on the Ten Commandments.
1411
01:06:42,389 --> 01:06:44,174
The restrictions
are purportedly
1412
01:06:44,261 --> 01:06:46,741
for blocking things like
pornography,
1413
01:06:46,828 --> 01:06:49,440
but apparently,
in YouTube's world,
1414
01:06:49,527 --> 01:06:50,919
talking about
the Ten Commandments
1415
01:06:51,007 --> 01:06:53,705
is comparable
and should be blocked.
1416
01:06:53,792 --> 01:06:55,011
- I believe
the Ten Commandments video,
1417
01:06:55,098 --> 01:06:57,404
for instance,
contains references to murder
1418
01:06:57,491 --> 01:07:00,320
and, I believe, potentially,
Nazism or World War II,
1419
01:07:00,407 --> 01:07:03,802
something along those lines,
but they're not censored.
1420
01:07:03,889 --> 01:07:07,414
They're available to everybody
who's using normal YouTube.
1421
01:07:07,501 --> 01:07:10,548
They are not available
to the small subset
1422
01:07:10,635 --> 01:07:13,986
who have chosen
to activate restricted mode.
1423
01:07:14,073 --> 01:07:16,989
- So I was thinking I have
a solution that will,
1424
01:07:17,076 --> 01:07:18,643
I think, appeal to Google.
1425
01:07:18,730 --> 01:07:22,821
I will re-release it
as the nine commandments.
1426
01:07:22,908 --> 01:07:25,954
That should solve the problem
of including murder
1427
01:07:26,042 --> 01:07:27,608
in my discussion
of the Ten Commandments.
1428
01:07:31,047 --> 01:07:33,484
- I always say when you see
someone attacking a subject
1429
01:07:33,571 --> 01:07:36,965
by attacking a personality
rather than debating the idea,
1430
01:07:37,053 --> 01:07:39,359
that's often a sign
of a smear campaign.
1431
01:07:41,796 --> 01:07:43,798
- I'm very much
into classical music.
1432
01:07:43,885 --> 01:07:46,453
I periodically conduct,
and I've been--
1433
01:07:46,540 --> 01:07:49,282
it's been a passion of mine
since I was a teenager.
1434
01:07:55,506 --> 01:07:58,291
If I sell out
the Disney Concert Hall,
1435
01:07:58,378 --> 01:08:00,598
it'll be the first time
1436
01:08:00,685 --> 01:08:02,252
that a regional orchestra
1437
01:08:02,339 --> 01:08:04,515
has ever sold out
the Disney Concert Hall.
1438
01:08:04,602 --> 01:08:06,952
Every penny is going
to the orchestra.
1439
01:08:07,039 --> 01:08:09,433
I am not getting a nickel
for doing this.
1440
01:08:14,002 --> 01:08:17,484
There are players in
the orchestra who won't come,
1441
01:08:17,571 --> 01:08:20,183
who urge their other players
not to go.
1442
01:08:20,270 --> 01:08:22,141
"We're not gonna play
for a conservative."
1443
01:08:22,228 --> 01:08:24,317
Welcome to
"The Dennis Prager Show."
1444
01:08:24,404 --> 01:08:28,104
My guest is
Professor Andrew Apter,
1445
01:08:28,191 --> 01:08:30,584
professor of history
and anthropology at UCLA,
1446
01:08:30,671 --> 01:08:32,195
also a violinist and a member
1447
01:08:32,282 --> 01:08:34,719
of the Santa Monica
Symphony Orchestra,
1448
01:08:34,806 --> 01:08:36,677
which I am conducting
next Wednesday night
1449
01:08:36,764 --> 01:08:40,203
at Walt Disney Hall
in Los Angeles.
1450
01:08:40,290 --> 01:08:43,380
He and a couple of other
members of the orchestra
1451
01:08:43,467 --> 01:08:45,164
have asked people
not to attend
1452
01:08:45,251 --> 01:08:48,515
and fellow members
not to play for me
1453
01:08:48,602 --> 01:08:50,430
'cause I'm a hateful bigot.
1454
01:08:50,517 --> 01:08:53,955
When you write in your first
open letter I have here,
1455
01:08:54,042 --> 01:08:57,045
"Please urge your friends
not to attend the concert,"
1456
01:08:57,133 --> 01:08:58,960
and then you're telling
my audience
1457
01:08:59,047 --> 01:09:02,094
that you in no way have worked
to stop the concert.
1458
01:09:02,181 --> 01:09:05,880
Protesting outside
doesn't stop the concert.
1459
01:09:05,967 --> 01:09:08,666
Telling people not to go to
the concert stops the concert.
1460
01:09:08,753 --> 01:09:10,189
- No, you could still play
1461
01:09:10,276 --> 01:09:11,756
with an empty hall
if you want to.
1462
01:09:11,843 --> 01:09:13,801
- Okay, well, all right.
1463
01:09:13,888 --> 01:09:15,803
- And we know there's plenty
of people who are gonna go,
1464
01:09:15,890 --> 01:09:17,065
so that's really
not the issue.
1465
01:09:17,153 --> 01:09:18,763
- It is the issue.
1466
01:09:18,850 --> 01:09:20,634
It's really mind-blowing.
1467
01:09:20,721 --> 01:09:23,811
They're not going to attend the
concert of their own orchestra
1468
01:09:23,898 --> 01:09:26,074
to raise funds
for their orchestra.
1469
01:09:26,162 --> 01:09:28,381
It could be a beautiful story,
1470
01:09:28,468 --> 01:09:32,298
music transcends political
and social differences,
1471
01:09:32,385 --> 01:09:35,519
but they call us haters.
1472
01:09:35,606 --> 01:09:37,912
That's the irony.
That's really the irony.
1473
01:09:48,836 --> 01:09:50,229
- No, we're not.
When I was growing up,
1474
01:09:50,316 --> 01:09:52,362
and I lived in a tiny
little room with my sisters
1475
01:09:52,449 --> 01:09:54,451
and the exterminator would come
and take care of the roaches,
1476
01:09:54,538 --> 01:09:56,931
when I was growing up, I didn't
get handed a packet that said,
1477
01:09:57,018 --> 01:09:58,498
"Here's your excuse in life.
You don't have to do anything.
1478
01:09:58,585 --> 01:09:59,847
It's 'cause you're a victim,"
okay?
1479
01:09:59,934 --> 01:10:01,414
I learned that I had
to work hard.
1480
01:10:01,501 --> 01:10:03,286
I had to stay in school,
and I had to study.
1481
01:10:03,373 --> 01:10:04,722
I don't need to learn
about white privilege.
1482
01:10:04,809 --> 01:10:06,114
White privilege is not
serving anybody.
1483
01:10:06,202 --> 01:10:07,725
This whole idea of the fact--
1484
01:10:07,812 --> 01:10:09,640
teaching little kids
that their skin color
1485
01:10:09,727 --> 01:10:10,902
makes them less fortunate
1486
01:10:10,989 --> 01:10:12,295
is not helping black kids
get ahead.
1487
01:10:12,382 --> 01:10:15,907
There seems to be
an ideological war happening,
1488
01:10:15,994 --> 01:10:18,518
and the left has
built their brand
1489
01:10:18,605 --> 01:10:21,086
off of the idea
that I am a victim.
1490
01:10:21,173 --> 01:10:23,175
- The same people
who are covering everything
1491
01:10:23,262 --> 01:10:25,133
with bubble wrap
1492
01:10:25,221 --> 01:10:27,484
are also telling these people,
1493
01:10:27,571 --> 01:10:30,008
"You have a target on your back
because you're female.
1494
01:10:30,095 --> 01:10:32,445
"You have a target on your back
because you're black or Hispanic
1495
01:10:32,532 --> 01:10:33,707
or whatever you are,"
1496
01:10:33,794 --> 01:10:36,232
and thus, making all the people
1497
01:10:36,319 --> 01:10:39,278
they're trying to protect
miserable
1498
01:10:39,365 --> 01:10:41,802
because of the target
they falsely placed
1499
01:10:41,889 --> 01:10:43,500
on everyone's back.
1500
01:10:43,587 --> 01:10:45,937
- If you're a victim surrounded
by predators,
1501
01:10:46,024 --> 01:10:47,895
by evil predators, man,
you're frozen.
1502
01:10:47,982 --> 01:10:49,201
I mean, if you think
of an animal
1503
01:10:49,288 --> 01:10:50,637
in a situation like that,
1504
01:10:50,724 --> 01:10:52,204
the animal's frozen in terror.
1505
01:10:52,291 --> 01:10:54,119
One idea is that, well,
1506
01:10:54,206 --> 01:10:56,295
you protect people
by protecting them.
1507
01:10:56,382 --> 01:10:59,777
The other is you embolden them
by encouraging them,
1508
01:10:59,864 --> 01:11:01,344
and that's a whole
different thing,
1509
01:11:01,431 --> 01:11:02,606
and it's the right thing,
right?
1510
01:11:02,693 --> 01:11:04,825
Because you can't
protect people.
1511
01:11:04,912 --> 01:11:07,741
Life's a fatal disease, right?
That's the old joke.
1512
01:11:07,828 --> 01:11:12,616
It's a sexually transmissible
disease that's 100% fatal.
1513
01:11:12,703 --> 01:11:14,705
You're not gonna protect people
from that,
1514
01:11:14,792 --> 01:11:17,185
and so the best you can do
is to make them strong.
1515
01:11:17,273 --> 01:11:18,883
- [on TV] Evel Knievel
is not hesitating.
1516
01:11:18,970 --> 01:11:20,363
Here we go.
1517
01:11:20,450 --> 01:11:23,366
[dramatic music]
1518
01:11:23,453 --> 01:11:24,802
♪ ♪
1519
01:11:24,889 --> 01:11:29,763
- I rode a bike everywhere,
never with a helmet.
1520
01:11:29,850 --> 01:11:33,506
The thing I found interesting about not wearing a helmet
1521
01:11:33,593 --> 01:11:35,116
and crashing all the time--
1522
01:11:35,203 --> 01:11:36,640
Because I rode BMX bikes.
1523
01:11:36,727 --> 01:11:39,599
I was jumping and doing wheelies.
1524
01:11:39,686 --> 01:11:41,297
I never hit my head once,
1525
01:11:41,384 --> 01:11:42,863
but because I didn't have protection,
1526
01:11:42,950 --> 01:11:46,389
it was all elbows and knees and rolling,
1527
01:11:46,476 --> 01:11:49,392
and I actually learned how to fall.
1528
01:11:51,872 --> 01:11:54,788
- The goal is not to put
yourself in danger,
1529
01:11:54,875 --> 01:11:59,576
but the goal is to get more
of a sense both of who you are
1530
01:11:59,663 --> 01:12:01,882
and of what the world
can look like.
1531
01:12:01,969 --> 01:12:04,494
- I say never deny the pain.
1532
01:12:04,581 --> 01:12:06,496
Just don't let the pain
have the last word.
1533
01:12:06,583 --> 01:12:10,630
- I would rather my kids
have spina bifida
1534
01:12:10,717 --> 01:12:13,154
than think of themselves
as victims.
1535
01:12:13,241 --> 01:12:17,681
I can't think of anything
more debilitating
1536
01:12:17,768 --> 01:12:20,466
than thinking yourself
a victim.
1537
01:12:20,553 --> 01:12:24,905
- I do an hour on happiness
every week on my radio show,
1538
01:12:24,992 --> 01:12:28,953
and I learned something from
listeners that startled me,
1539
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:30,998
and that is I am convinced
1540
01:12:31,085 --> 01:12:33,784
that a certain percentage
of unhappy people
1541
01:12:33,871 --> 01:12:36,134
are addicted to being unhappy.
1542
01:12:36,221 --> 01:12:37,701
- Absolutely.
- I never knew that.
1543
01:12:37,788 --> 01:12:39,920
I thought everyone
wants to be happy.
1544
01:12:40,007 --> 01:12:42,053
- Well, think about how
empowering it is
1545
01:12:42,140 --> 01:12:44,098
to say your problems
1546
01:12:44,185 --> 01:12:46,144
are not because of you,
you know what I mean?
1547
01:12:46,231 --> 01:12:47,885
You can't get a date, but it
has nothing to do with you.
1548
01:12:47,972 --> 01:12:49,452
The system's against you.
1549
01:12:49,539 --> 01:12:50,888
- The system is stacked
against you,
1550
01:12:50,975 --> 01:12:52,455
and there isn't a bloody thing
you can do about it,
1551
01:12:52,542 --> 01:12:54,457
so why bother trying?
1552
01:12:54,544 --> 01:12:57,198
Of all the things to tell
anyone ever about anything,
1553
01:12:57,285 --> 01:12:58,548
that's got to be bottom
of the list
1554
01:12:58,635 --> 01:13:00,201
unless you really
don't like them.
1555
01:13:00,288 --> 01:13:04,423
- Here's what our job is
as parents, as educators,
1556
01:13:04,510 --> 01:13:08,384
as politicians,
as cops and lifeguards.
1557
01:13:08,471 --> 01:13:12,126
Our job is to convince
younger people
1558
01:13:12,213 --> 01:13:14,651
they're not victims.
1559
01:13:14,738 --> 01:13:18,916
Our job is to say to a kid who
is confined to a wheelchair,
1560
01:13:19,003 --> 01:13:20,308
"Don't worry.
1561
01:13:20,396 --> 01:13:22,920
You're just gonna outwork
everybody else.
1562
01:13:23,007 --> 01:13:25,009
You're gonna out-hustle
everybody else,
1563
01:13:25,096 --> 01:13:28,447
and you will see that this thing
is not gonna hold you back
1564
01:13:28,534 --> 01:13:30,884
because you have the heart
of a tiger."
1565
01:13:33,060 --> 01:13:38,152
What we're doing now is
we're taking able-bodied kids
1566
01:13:38,239 --> 01:13:41,591
and convincing them they need
to use the handicap ramp.
1567
01:13:47,858 --> 01:13:50,077
- I went to
Clark Atlanta University,
1568
01:13:50,164 --> 01:13:52,515
which is a black college
in Atlanta,
1569
01:13:52,602 --> 01:13:56,040
and I really wanted to have
just open and free dialogue
1570
01:13:56,127 --> 01:13:58,303
with as many of the students
as possible.
1571
01:13:58,390 --> 01:14:00,436
I got a great motto
on my radio show--
1572
01:14:00,523 --> 01:14:02,525
"I prefer clarity
to agreement."
1573
01:14:02,612 --> 01:14:04,309
We may not agree,
but at least it's important
1574
01:14:04,396 --> 01:14:06,180
that we be clear
where we differ.
1575
01:14:06,267 --> 01:14:08,313
The general belief
in American history
1576
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:11,142
has been free speech
includes all speech,
1577
01:14:11,229 --> 01:14:12,796
including hate speech.
1578
01:14:12,883 --> 01:14:15,407
Do you think that
should be changed?
1579
01:14:15,494 --> 01:14:17,148
- That's hard. That's hard
to say because you're really
1580
01:14:17,235 --> 01:14:18,541
telling a person that they
can't say what they think.
1581
01:14:18,628 --> 01:14:19,977
- Right.
- Right.
1582
01:14:20,064 --> 01:14:21,587
- It's hard to say,
but words are powerful,
1583
01:14:21,674 --> 01:14:23,023
so people know what
they're saying
1584
01:14:23,110 --> 01:14:24,068
will invoke some type
of emotion.
1585
01:14:24,155 --> 01:14:25,461
some type of feeling.
1586
01:14:25,548 --> 01:14:26,766
- Right. Should they be
allowed to say it?
1587
01:14:26,853 --> 01:14:28,376
That's all I'm asking.
1588
01:14:28,464 --> 01:14:29,987
I'm talking a legal question,
not a moral question.
1589
01:14:30,074 --> 01:14:31,989
- I can't legally say
that a person
1590
01:14:32,076 --> 01:14:34,078
shouldn't be allowed
to speak their mind.
1591
01:14:34,165 --> 01:14:37,255
- According to polls,
50% of Americans your age
1592
01:14:37,342 --> 01:14:40,301
thinks that there shouldn't be
free speech for hate speech.
1593
01:14:40,388 --> 01:14:42,739
You don't agree with that?
- I do not agree with that.
1594
01:14:42,826 --> 01:14:45,089
I think if you take away
hate speech, you're hiding it.
1595
01:14:45,176 --> 01:14:47,657
- Right. That's worse.
- So it become worse.
1596
01:14:47,744 --> 01:14:49,746
- Mm-hmm.
That's an interesting point.
1597
01:14:49,833 --> 01:14:54,838
Let me ask you this,
'cause it's generally said...
1598
01:14:54,925 --> 01:14:58,885
that a lot of
African-Americans think
1599
01:14:58,972 --> 01:15:03,063
that this country is
essentially racist.
1600
01:15:03,150 --> 01:15:05,065
Do you agree with--
do you think this country's
1601
01:15:05,152 --> 01:15:07,503
essentially racist?
1602
01:15:07,590 --> 01:15:10,157
- I wouldn't say the average
white is naturally a racist.
1603
01:15:10,244 --> 01:15:12,246
I say it's been embedded
with on--
1604
01:15:12,333 --> 01:15:14,597
which this nation
has been built on.
1605
01:15:14,684 --> 01:15:17,208
So, if you think
of generation to generation,
1606
01:15:17,295 --> 01:15:19,427
think of your ancestors
and my ancestors,
1607
01:15:19,515 --> 01:15:22,256
the different, you know,
grounds which we come from,
1608
01:15:22,343 --> 01:15:23,997
you know, ever since
my ancestors
1609
01:15:24,084 --> 01:15:25,999
were brought here to America,
they were slaves.
1610
01:15:26,086 --> 01:15:28,349
Your ancestors were
slave owners.
1611
01:15:28,436 --> 01:15:31,744
So fast-forward generations,
1612
01:15:31,831 --> 01:15:33,877
then that privilege,
the white privilege
1613
01:15:33,964 --> 01:15:36,270
and that oppression
that has been,
1614
01:15:36,357 --> 01:15:38,621
you know, given within
my families, it's still there.
1615
01:15:38,708 --> 01:15:40,057
So I wouldn't say
it's intentional racism,
1616
01:15:40,144 --> 01:15:42,015
but it's more so
systematic racism,
1617
01:15:42,102 --> 01:15:44,583
a racism that has been
developed through generations.
1618
01:15:44,670 --> 01:15:47,064
- Okay, just to correct
the record,
1619
01:15:47,151 --> 01:15:48,935
a vast number of whites
in America,
1620
01:15:49,022 --> 01:15:51,459
their ancestors
were not slave owners.
1621
01:15:51,547 --> 01:15:54,158
A, they were either Northerners
or they came here later.
1622
01:15:54,245 --> 01:15:59,163
I mean, you know, my ancestors
in 1863 were in Poland,
1623
01:15:59,250 --> 01:16:01,905
and they were not doing
very well.
1624
01:16:01,992 --> 01:16:03,950
They were Jewish, so...
- Got ya, got ya.
1625
01:16:04,037 --> 01:16:05,822
- But anyway,
just for the record.
1626
01:16:05,909 --> 01:16:09,390
Your interactions
with non-blacks,
1627
01:16:09,477 --> 01:16:13,481
are they largely positive or
negative on a day-to-day basis?
1628
01:16:13,569 --> 01:16:15,222
- The interactions
you will have day-to-day,
1629
01:16:15,309 --> 01:16:17,747
they won't be racist,
but, you know,
1630
01:16:17,834 --> 01:16:19,705
when there's opportunities,
you know,
1631
01:16:19,792 --> 01:16:22,099
you may not be
the first thought.
1632
01:16:22,186 --> 01:16:23,883
You may not be the first one
to be called.
1633
01:16:23,970 --> 01:16:26,494
There's a lot of things
that go into why...
1634
01:16:26,582 --> 01:16:28,584
things, you know,
are the way they are.
1635
01:16:28,671 --> 01:16:31,935
- At some point down the road--
I don't know when--
1636
01:16:32,022 --> 01:16:35,025
but at some point, we as blacks
are going to realize
1637
01:16:35,112 --> 01:16:38,768
the degree to which we identify
1638
01:16:38,855 --> 01:16:43,642
our aspiration
in victimization...
1639
01:16:43,729 --> 01:16:47,124
the degree to which
we rely on it...
1640
01:16:47,211 --> 01:16:51,302
not just as an excuse
but as a self-definition.
1641
01:16:51,389 --> 01:16:55,698
"Well, I don't know
what I want to do with my life,
1642
01:16:55,785 --> 01:16:59,136
but I think there's
some racism out there."
1643
01:16:59,223 --> 01:17:02,226
Well, there very likely
is some racism out there.
1644
01:17:02,313 --> 01:17:04,358
So what?
1645
01:17:04,445 --> 01:17:07,884
Until black America
gets to the "so what" place,
1646
01:17:07,971 --> 01:17:09,842
we're gonna fall farther
and farther behind.
1647
01:17:09,929 --> 01:17:12,715
You don't sit still in life,
I've discovered.
1648
01:17:12,802 --> 01:17:14,368
You go up, or you go down.
1649
01:17:14,455 --> 01:17:15,587
- But the thing is,
it's another thing
1650
01:17:15,674 --> 01:17:17,328
to actually be in the shoes
1651
01:17:17,415 --> 01:17:18,721
of those who are
being oppressed.
1652
01:17:18,808 --> 01:17:20,940
- I don't think anyone
in America's oppressed.
1653
01:17:21,027 --> 01:17:23,856
You do, obviously,
and that's a very big divide.
1654
01:17:23,943 --> 01:17:25,075
- After hundreds of years
of slavery--
1655
01:17:25,162 --> 01:17:26,337
- After hundreds of years
of slavery.
1656
01:17:26,424 --> 01:17:27,730
- You don't think we've
been oppressed?
1657
01:17:27,817 --> 01:17:28,687
- No, no, no, you didn't say
"have been."
1658
01:17:28,774 --> 01:17:30,167
You said "are."
1659
01:17:30,254 --> 01:17:31,342
- You think blacks
were once oppressed?.
1660
01:17:31,429 --> 01:17:32,865
- Oh, of course.
It's a given.
1661
01:17:32,952 --> 01:17:34,998
- So how do you not think
that it's generational?
1662
01:17:35,085 --> 01:17:38,001
How do you not think that we're
still trying to consciously,
1663
01:17:38,088 --> 01:17:39,567
socially still recover
from that?
1664
01:17:39,655 --> 01:17:41,004
- It takes a long time.
1665
01:17:41,091 --> 01:17:43,223
- After telling us
that we're not humans--
1666
01:17:43,310 --> 01:17:46,662
- Okay, so the oppression
is not happening from outside.
1667
01:17:46,749 --> 01:17:48,272
It's a residue of the inside.
1668
01:17:48,359 --> 01:17:49,534
- Of course, of course,
because of what's happened
1669
01:17:49,621 --> 01:17:51,275
on the outside.
1670
01:17:51,362 --> 01:17:52,624
But the thing is, it's still
being placed outside.
1671
01:17:52,711 --> 01:17:54,104
- So no matter how whites act,
1672
01:17:54,191 --> 01:17:56,584
no matter how kind they
might be, it's irrelevant
1673
01:17:56,672 --> 01:17:58,064
because you're still oppressed
1674
01:17:58,151 --> 01:18:01,024
because of slavery
from the 19th century.
1675
01:18:01,111 --> 01:18:02,634
- You just answered
your own question.
1676
01:18:02,721 --> 01:18:04,288
- You may not be physically
getting beat, but mentally--
1677
01:18:04,375 --> 01:18:05,245
- You answered
your own question.
1678
01:18:05,332 --> 01:18:06,333
- All right. So, right, well--
1679
01:18:06,420 --> 01:18:07,508
- You answered your own
question.
1680
01:18:07,595 --> 01:18:09,902
- How many generations
would it take
1681
01:18:09,989 --> 01:18:11,599
for that to end?
1682
01:18:11,687 --> 01:18:13,123
- That's a trick question.
1683
01:18:13,210 --> 01:18:14,864
- No, no, it's not a trick.
Maybe there's no answer.
1684
01:18:14,951 --> 01:18:16,561
Maybe we don't know the answer.
- Exactly. Exactly.
1685
01:18:16,648 --> 01:18:17,649
- Okay, fine. It certainly
wasn't meant
1686
01:18:17,736 --> 01:18:19,390
as a trick question.
1687
01:18:19,477 --> 01:18:21,871
I can't argue with what any
given individual feels inside.
1688
01:18:21,958 --> 01:18:23,611
- Naturally, 'cause you
don't walk in our shoes.
1689
01:18:23,699 --> 01:18:25,918
- Right, but you're not
walking in white shoes,
1690
01:18:26,005 --> 01:18:27,964
but you're ascribing
to whites--
1691
01:18:28,051 --> 01:18:31,315
- Exactly,
'cause we're the oppressed.
1692
01:18:31,402 --> 01:18:33,839
So I don't have to walk
in your shoes to tell myself
1693
01:18:33,926 --> 01:18:35,362
that I've been oppressed
by you.
1694
01:18:35,449 --> 01:18:37,234
- In America,
you were brutalized.
1695
01:18:37,321 --> 01:18:39,976
From birth on,
you were whipped, lashed.
1696
01:18:40,063 --> 01:18:42,630
Your children was taken
from you and sold away.
1697
01:18:42,718 --> 01:18:48,027
Your wives were used
at the will of the overseer.
1698
01:18:48,114 --> 01:18:50,334
I mean,
it just was dehumanizing
1699
01:18:50,421 --> 01:18:51,988
in every conceivable way,
1700
01:18:52,075 --> 01:18:53,990
and for centuries.
1701
01:18:54,077 --> 01:18:56,949
So you got a beef.
1702
01:18:57,036 --> 01:19:00,823
How long are you gonna
ride that beef?
1703
01:19:00,910 --> 01:19:03,913
How long do you think
it's gonna take?
1704
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:08,874
'Cause the only person
who can break that bond is you.
1705
01:19:08,961 --> 01:19:12,443
Inside yourself, say, "Well,
just because white people
1706
01:19:12,530 --> 01:19:17,578
were once racist does not mean
I'm gonna sell out my life...
1707
01:19:17,665 --> 01:19:20,407
I'm gonna ask less of myself
1708
01:19:20,494 --> 01:19:23,497
and claim that I'm being held
back by victimization."
1709
01:19:24,934 --> 01:19:29,199
And that's what is so
startling to me--
1710
01:19:29,286 --> 01:19:33,377
the way that you see now
of inventing,
1711
01:19:33,464 --> 01:19:39,339
reinventing, as I say,
the oppression in your mind,
1712
01:19:39,426 --> 01:19:42,516
the same oppression that is
fading out of the world.
1713
01:19:42,603 --> 01:19:47,565
As it fades, you cling
and reinvent it, rebuild it,
1714
01:19:47,652 --> 01:19:52,265
and so you now become the
racist overseer of yourself.
1715
01:19:53,614 --> 01:19:56,530
[dramatic music]
1716
01:19:56,617 --> 01:20:03,537
♪ ♪
1717
01:20:05,322 --> 01:20:07,106
- Whether it's victimization,
1718
01:20:07,193 --> 01:20:10,240
cultural appropriation, social justice,
1719
01:20:10,327 --> 01:20:12,938
or even trigger warnings and safe spaces,
1720
01:20:13,025 --> 01:20:15,680
it's all about identity politics,
1721
01:20:15,767 --> 01:20:18,683
which is the exact opposite of common sense.
1722
01:20:18,770 --> 01:20:20,250
- This country was founded on
1723
01:20:20,337 --> 01:20:22,034
we don't give a hoot
where you're from.
1724
01:20:22,121 --> 01:20:23,862
I know that there were
racists in the past.
1725
01:20:23,949 --> 01:20:27,039
I'm not talking about Americans
as flawed individuals.
1726
01:20:27,126 --> 01:20:29,563
I'm talking about the values
of the society
1727
01:20:29,650 --> 01:20:32,566
were e pluribus unum,
from many, one,
1728
01:20:32,653 --> 01:20:35,743
and now the other identities
are all that matter.
1729
01:20:35,831 --> 01:20:39,269
It's astonishing how dividing
of people this is,
1730
01:20:39,356 --> 01:20:41,271
and that's called wonderful.
1731
01:20:41,358 --> 01:20:43,012
That's called progressive.
1732
01:20:43,099 --> 01:20:46,885
- Not belonging to a group,
to me, is my privilege.
1733
01:20:46,972 --> 01:20:50,193
Not having to walk in lockstep
with this group
1734
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:52,935
or that group
or conform to whatever
1735
01:20:53,022 --> 01:20:55,763
whoever the leaders
of that group are espousing,
1736
01:20:55,851 --> 01:20:59,767
that is my real privilege,
to just be an individual.
1737
01:20:59,855 --> 01:21:02,118
- The idea of the divine
individual, that is the West.
1738
01:21:02,205 --> 01:21:04,294
If we subsume that
under group identity,
1739
01:21:04,381 --> 01:21:07,340
then we will perish painfully,
1740
01:21:07,427 --> 01:21:09,125
and God only knows what'll go
along with us,
1741
01:21:09,212 --> 01:21:10,735
maybe everything.
1742
01:21:10,822 --> 01:21:12,215
I mean, look what happened
in the 20th century
1743
01:21:12,302 --> 01:21:14,086
when people put
group identity first.
1744
01:21:14,173 --> 01:21:16,306
I mean, how much
bloody evidence do you need?
1745
01:21:16,393 --> 01:21:17,655
The Communists did it
for good reasons,
1746
01:21:17,742 --> 01:21:20,353
and the Nazis did it
for bad reasons.
1747
01:21:20,440 --> 01:21:23,966
Tens of millions of people
died horribly as a consequence.
1748
01:21:24,053 --> 01:21:28,144
- Is the individual sacrosanct,
or is the group?
1749
01:21:28,231 --> 01:21:30,798
Do we have freedom to speak
what we want to say?
1750
01:21:33,758 --> 01:21:38,110
- 58% of Americans
hold opinions
1751
01:21:38,197 --> 01:21:41,287
that they don't feel
comfortable sharing publicly.
1752
01:21:41,374 --> 01:21:42,985
- Oh.
- Wow.
1753
01:21:43,072 --> 01:21:46,205
- Man, oh, man. So I don't
believe that this new tyranny,
1754
01:21:46,292 --> 01:21:48,860
this new politically
correct tyranny
1755
01:21:48,947 --> 01:21:50,993
is changing anybody's behavior.
1756
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:52,342
- No.
- And it sure as hell isn't
1757
01:21:52,429 --> 01:21:54,039
bringing anybody together,
1758
01:21:54,126 --> 01:21:57,390
but it's creating an atmosphere
of fear and repression,
1759
01:21:57,477 --> 01:21:59,305
and you know what happens
when that happens.
1760
01:21:59,392 --> 01:22:00,437
It's gonna bust.
1761
01:22:00,524 --> 01:22:03,483
♪ ♪
1762
01:22:03,570 --> 01:22:05,616
- The University of California
at Berkeley
1763
01:22:05,703 --> 01:22:08,271
is said to be bracing--
that's the quote--
1764
01:22:08,358 --> 01:22:10,012
bracing for
conservative speaker
1765
01:22:10,099 --> 01:22:11,317
Ben Shapiro's
upcoming appearance
1766
01:22:11,404 --> 01:22:12,971
at their campus.
1767
01:22:13,058 --> 01:22:16,105
- Many are comparing
to hurricane preparations.
1768
01:22:16,192 --> 01:22:19,021
- The barriers are up.
Officers are out in force.
1769
01:22:19,108 --> 01:22:21,719
- Taking extraordinary
security measures
1770
01:22:21,806 --> 01:22:24,635
costing around $600,000.
1771
01:22:24,722 --> 01:22:30,858
♪ ♪
1772
01:22:30,946 --> 01:22:33,992
A large swathe of the campus
will be closed off,
1773
01:22:34,079 --> 01:22:37,039
including the plaza where
the Free Speech Movement began
1774
01:22:37,126 --> 01:22:38,475
in the 1960s.
1775
01:22:38,562 --> 01:22:41,217
- If Ben Shapiro is not
allowed to speak,
1776
01:22:41,304 --> 01:22:45,134
the First Amendment will have
lost a tremendous battle today,
1777
01:22:45,221 --> 01:22:48,964
a very important event
in the history of our rights.
1778
01:22:49,051 --> 01:22:51,792
- The Constitution
is absolutely clear that,
1779
01:22:51,879 --> 01:22:54,404
particularly
as a public institution,
1780
01:22:54,491 --> 01:22:57,885
we cannot and will not
discriminate against speakers
1781
01:22:57,973 --> 01:22:59,539
because of their perspectives
1782
01:22:59,626 --> 01:23:02,107
or because of the beliefs
of those who wish to host it.
1783
01:23:02,194 --> 01:23:04,153
- There's no free speech
for fascists.
1784
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:06,329
Their words are violent,
1785
01:23:06,416 --> 01:23:09,810
and for every action, there is
an equal and opposite reaction.
1786
01:23:09,897 --> 01:23:16,730
♪ ♪
1787
01:23:19,907 --> 01:23:23,607
- Administration rolls out
the red carpet for fascists
1788
01:23:23,694 --> 01:23:26,175
to come and spout their
white supremacy and xenophobia.
1789
01:23:26,262 --> 01:23:33,095
♪ ♪
1790
01:23:52,375 --> 01:23:55,639
- And to the dismay of the
People's Republic of Berkeley,
1791
01:23:55,726 --> 01:23:56,944
you get to see him live.
1792
01:23:57,032 --> 01:23:59,817
Ladies and gentlemen,
Mr. Ben Shapiro!
1793
01:23:59,904 --> 01:24:02,776
[cheers and applause]
1794
01:24:11,524 --> 01:24:13,004
- He came. He gave his talk,
very conservative.
1795
01:24:13,091 --> 01:24:14,701
I thought it was a great talk.
1796
01:24:14,788 --> 01:24:16,921
I didn't agree with a single
thing he said, but who cares?
1797
01:24:17,008 --> 01:24:19,097
It was a great,
interesting talk.
1798
01:24:19,184 --> 01:24:21,534
- The reason that I am here
is because fascism
1799
01:24:21,621 --> 01:24:23,710
does not own this university
1800
01:24:23,797 --> 01:24:27,018
because there are students who
do want to hear differing views,
1801
01:24:27,105 --> 01:24:30,543
who don't want to be told that
they can only hear one view,
1802
01:24:30,630 --> 01:24:33,198
who don't believe that
the First Amendment should die
1803
01:24:33,285 --> 01:24:35,331
under the jackboots
and Birkenstocks
1804
01:24:35,418 --> 01:24:38,247
of a bunch of anarchist,
communist pieces of garbage.
1805
01:24:38,334 --> 01:24:41,989
[cheers and applause]
1806
01:24:42,077 --> 01:24:44,514
- He gives his talk, and he
says afterwards when he's done,
1807
01:24:44,601 --> 01:24:46,342
"Everybody who has questions,
1808
01:24:46,429 --> 01:24:48,996
line up at the microphones on
either side of the auditorium."
1809
01:24:49,084 --> 01:24:50,520
- Well, we're gonna do a Q&A
after this,
1810
01:24:50,607 --> 01:24:52,217
and I love taking questions,
my favorite thing,
1811
01:24:52,304 --> 01:24:54,001
and I have a rule, which is
if you disagree with me,
1812
01:24:54,089 --> 01:24:55,829
you raise your hand, and you
go to the front of the line
1813
01:24:55,916 --> 01:24:58,919
because discussion
makes the country better.
1814
01:24:59,006 --> 01:25:00,660
- Half the hands go. "Good,
come to the front of the line."
1815
01:25:00,747 --> 01:25:03,620
I'm like, "Ah, my man."
1816
01:25:03,707 --> 01:25:05,143
Guy gets it.
1817
01:25:05,230 --> 01:25:07,232
That's what university's
supposed to be all about.
1818
01:25:07,319 --> 01:25:09,626
- And finally,
America is the greatest country
1819
01:25:09,713 --> 01:25:10,757
in human history.
1820
01:25:10,844 --> 01:25:12,585
You are not a victim.
1821
01:25:12,672 --> 01:25:13,891
If you are a victim
of something,
1822
01:25:13,978 --> 01:25:15,066
you need to show me
what you are a victim of,
1823
01:25:15,153 --> 01:25:16,546
and I will stand beside you,
1824
01:25:16,633 --> 01:25:18,809
but do not blame the freest,
most civil society
1825
01:25:18,896 --> 01:25:20,332
in the history of Planet Earth
1826
01:25:20,419 --> 01:25:21,942
for your failures...
1827
01:25:22,029 --> 01:25:23,466
because that's on you.
1828
01:25:23,553 --> 01:25:27,513
[applause]
1829
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:29,472
Now, was that so rough?
1830
01:25:29,559 --> 01:25:33,693
I mean, did we need $600,000 of
security to hear all of that?
1831
01:25:33,780 --> 01:25:40,831
♪ ♪
1832
01:25:40,918 --> 01:25:42,659
- I think we underestimate
the heroism
1833
01:25:42,746 --> 01:25:45,183
of our own cause as Americans.
1834
01:25:45,270 --> 01:25:46,880
We are trying to do something
1835
01:25:46,967 --> 01:25:49,361
that nobody told us is
almost impossible.
1836
01:25:49,448 --> 01:25:51,624
♪ ♪
1837
01:25:51,711 --> 01:25:53,496
If you look at human history,
1838
01:25:53,583 --> 01:25:55,759
we've got every kind
of human being
1839
01:25:55,846 --> 01:25:58,457
ever born in one country,
1840
01:25:58,544 --> 01:25:59,937
and we mostly get along.
1841
01:26:00,024 --> 01:26:01,156
Nobody points that out.
1842
01:26:03,027 --> 01:26:05,725
Where it gets hard...
1843
01:26:05,812 --> 01:26:07,510
takes real work.
1844
01:26:07,597 --> 01:26:09,076
- I still don't understand
what's going on.
1845
01:26:09,164 --> 01:26:10,426
Hopefully you can explain it.
1846
01:26:10,513 --> 01:26:12,819
Are you testifying
in front of Congress?
1847
01:26:12,906 --> 01:26:14,952
- I am.
- Why are you testifying?
1848
01:26:15,039 --> 01:26:16,388
What have you done?
1849
01:26:16,475 --> 01:26:19,435
[dynamic music]
1850
01:26:19,522 --> 01:26:26,181
♪ ♪
1851
01:26:36,147 --> 01:26:37,801
- Thank you.
It's an honor to be asked
1852
01:26:37,888 --> 01:26:40,020
to speak in front of you all.
1853
01:26:40,107 --> 01:26:41,457
First, just a quick piece
of business.
1854
01:26:41,544 --> 01:26:43,154
Do we get to keep these pads?
1855
01:26:43,241 --> 01:26:44,677
[light laughter]
1856
01:26:44,764 --> 01:26:46,418
We're talking a lot
about the kids,
1857
01:26:46,505 --> 01:26:48,986
and I think they're
just that, kids.
1858
01:26:49,073 --> 01:26:51,641
They grew up dipped in Purell,
1859
01:26:51,728 --> 01:26:54,209
playing soccer games
where they never kept score,
1860
01:26:54,296 --> 01:26:55,775
and watching
"Wow! Wow! Wubbzy!"
1861
01:26:55,862 --> 01:26:59,605
Studies have shown
that if you take people
1862
01:26:59,692 --> 01:27:02,304
and you put them
in a zero-gravity environment,
1863
01:27:02,391 --> 01:27:04,697
like astronauts,
they lose muscle mass.
1864
01:27:04,784 --> 01:27:06,438
They lose bone density.
1865
01:27:06,525 --> 01:27:07,874
We're taking these kids--
1866
01:27:07,961 --> 01:27:09,833
in the name of protection,
we're putting them
1867
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:12,531
in a zero-gravity environment,
1868
01:27:12,618 --> 01:27:16,361
and they're losing muscle mass
and bone density.
1869
01:27:16,448 --> 01:27:18,885
They need to live in a world
that has gravity.
1870
01:27:18,972 --> 01:27:20,409
- From helicopter parenting
1871
01:27:20,496 --> 01:27:22,411
through safe spaces
in colleges,
1872
01:27:22,498 --> 01:27:24,021
if that's what
you've been exposed to
1873
01:27:24,108 --> 01:27:26,241
and therefore you haven't
experienced any physical risk,
1874
01:27:26,328 --> 01:27:28,678
any emotional risk,
any intellectual risk,
1875
01:27:28,765 --> 01:27:30,288
of course you are fragile.
1876
01:27:30,375 --> 01:27:31,681
How could you be anything but?
1877
01:27:31,768 --> 01:27:34,292
- Children are the future,
1878
01:27:34,379 --> 01:27:37,208
but we are the present,
1879
01:27:37,295 --> 01:27:39,166
and we're the adults.
1880
01:27:39,254 --> 01:27:41,517
Could we just
bring back order,
1881
01:27:41,604 --> 01:27:44,433
and could the faculty
and administration
1882
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:46,522
on these campuses
1883
01:27:46,609 --> 01:27:51,266
act like adults who are
in charge of these kids
1884
01:27:51,353 --> 01:27:54,443
who need some gravity
in their life?
1885
01:27:54,530 --> 01:27:55,835
Thank you.
1886
01:27:55,922 --> 01:27:57,010
- Thank you all for your
eloquent testimony.
1887
01:27:57,097 --> 01:27:58,490
We appreciate that,
and, frankly,
1888
01:27:58,577 --> 01:28:00,013
I think Congress broke
some new ground today,
1889
01:28:00,100 --> 01:28:01,624
first reference ever
to "Wow! Wow! Wubbzy!"
1890
01:28:01,711 --> 01:28:04,235
in a congressional hearing.
[laughter]
1891
01:28:04,322 --> 01:28:06,106
So there was talk earlier
about a speech code.
1892
01:28:06,193 --> 01:28:07,325
Seems to me the speech code's
1893
01:28:07,412 --> 01:28:09,327
the one that's right behind me,
right?
1894
01:28:09,414 --> 01:28:10,937
Isn't that the speech code
in America,
1895
01:28:11,024 --> 01:28:12,809
the First Amendment itself?
1896
01:28:12,896 --> 01:28:15,377
Speech code and common sense,
as Mr. Carolla's talked about.
1897
01:28:15,464 --> 01:28:17,204
- This is about individualism
1898
01:28:17,292 --> 01:28:19,685
and fighting
for your own capacity
1899
01:28:19,772 --> 01:28:21,861
to think and create a society
that you want to live in,
1900
01:28:21,948 --> 01:28:24,516
not one that's just thrust
upon you.
1901
01:28:24,603 --> 01:28:26,649
The best thing you can do
is sometimes realize
1902
01:28:26,736 --> 01:28:28,912
that you have to pick
a moment to fight.
1903
01:28:31,697 --> 01:28:35,440
- According to the settlement,
the $123,000 will go to pay
1904
01:28:35,527 --> 01:28:38,487
the legal fees for
the U-Dub College Republicans.
1905
01:28:38,574 --> 01:28:40,358
- We have reached
a settlement deal with them.
1906
01:28:40,445 --> 01:28:41,490
We've gotten everything
we wanted,
1907
01:28:41,577 --> 01:28:43,448
plus our lawyer's fees
paid for,
1908
01:28:43,535 --> 01:28:46,016
and the school can't charge us
security fees anymore.
1909
01:28:46,103 --> 01:28:48,627
This is a massive victory
for free speech on campus,
1910
01:28:48,714 --> 01:28:50,629
and I think it's going
to prove to be that way
1911
01:28:50,716 --> 01:28:53,110
for not just this campus
but other campuses.
1912
01:28:53,197 --> 01:28:54,503
- The University
of California Berkeley
1913
01:28:54,590 --> 01:28:57,244
paid conservative groups
$70,000
1914
01:28:57,332 --> 01:29:00,335
to settle
a free-speech lawsuit.
1915
01:29:00,422 --> 01:29:01,945
- This is important not just
for conservative students
1916
01:29:02,032 --> 01:29:03,773
but for all students,
1917
01:29:03,860 --> 01:29:05,601
and one of the things
that our clients try to do
1918
01:29:05,688 --> 01:29:07,080
is bring important speakers
to campus
1919
01:29:07,167 --> 01:29:09,039
that they don't usually get
to hear from on campus,
1920
01:29:09,126 --> 01:29:11,258
and even liberal students
benefit from that.
1921
01:29:13,522 --> 01:29:15,393
- I prefer clarity
to agreement.
1922
01:29:15,480 --> 01:29:17,917
These are fellow students
of yours,
1923
01:29:18,004 --> 01:29:19,963
if you're a student here
at Berkeley,
1924
01:29:20,050 --> 01:29:22,922
and they are a left of center.
1925
01:29:23,009 --> 01:29:25,447
I am right of center,
obviously,
1926
01:29:25,534 --> 01:29:28,711
and my hope is that we can
clarify where we differ.
1927
01:29:28,798 --> 01:29:30,800
So, Dave and John,
please come out.
1928
01:29:30,887 --> 01:29:33,542
[cheers and applause]
1929
01:30:24,244 --> 01:30:26,377
- This journey that we've
been on--
1930
01:30:26,464 --> 01:30:28,858
What has struck home with me
1931
01:30:28,945 --> 01:30:33,732
is the fact that there's so many
people that are on our side,
1932
01:30:33,819 --> 01:30:37,344
that you should be able to share
ideas with other human beings
1933
01:30:37,432 --> 01:30:40,696
without fear of being fired
from your job
1934
01:30:40,783 --> 01:30:44,090
or kicked off a campus
or shouted down.
1935
01:30:44,177 --> 01:30:48,965
- Anybody who comes to speak
to you and you disagree with,
1936
01:30:49,052 --> 01:30:51,358
you should have an argument
with them,
1937
01:30:51,446 --> 01:30:54,274
but you shouldn't silence them
by saying,
1938
01:30:54,361 --> 01:30:57,800
"You can't come because,
you know,
1939
01:30:57,887 --> 01:31:01,325
I'm too sensitive
to hear what you have to say."
1940
01:31:01,412 --> 01:31:03,458
- I'm wondering,
how do you propose
1941
01:31:03,545 --> 01:31:05,416
that we as the future
of America
1942
01:31:05,503 --> 01:31:08,593
can begin to actually fight
against these challenges?
1943
01:31:09,420 --> 01:31:11,988
- How do we turn the tide,
Dennis?
1944
01:31:12,075 --> 01:31:13,990
- So the way out...
1945
01:31:14,077 --> 01:31:16,122
is start saying
what you believe.
1946
01:31:16,209 --> 01:31:17,820
I know that sounds so simple.
1947
01:31:17,907 --> 01:31:20,126
- There are many,
many people out there
1948
01:31:20,213 --> 01:31:22,433
who are similarly
feeling silenced.
1949
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:25,567
Find courage and speak.
1950
01:31:25,654 --> 01:31:28,221
- I really don't regret
anything that I said
1951
01:31:28,308 --> 01:31:29,875
or anything that I did,
1952
01:31:29,962 --> 01:31:31,964
because I know that the names
that I've been called
1953
01:31:32,051 --> 01:31:33,618
around campus really
aren't true
1954
01:31:33,705 --> 01:31:35,141
and that they really don't
define me
1955
01:31:35,228 --> 01:31:37,883
and that I can be
and I should be who I am.
1956
01:31:37,970 --> 01:31:39,581
And I know that
I did the right thing
1957
01:31:39,668 --> 01:31:42,366
in love and respect
and in truth.
1958
01:31:42,453 --> 01:31:45,325
- If you truly are not racist,
if you're not a bigot,
1959
01:31:45,412 --> 01:31:46,892
if you're not a homophobe
1960
01:31:46,979 --> 01:31:49,460
or any of these other
nonsensical buzzwords,
1961
01:31:49,547 --> 01:31:52,028
if you're none of those things,
1962
01:31:52,115 --> 01:31:53,812
you'll realize the water
isn't so cold
1963
01:31:53,899 --> 01:31:55,335
when you jump into the pool.
1964
01:31:55,422 --> 01:31:58,513
- All the good intentions
in the world
1965
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:01,994
amount to nothing
without one thing.
1966
01:32:02,081 --> 01:32:04,736
It is the single
most important thing
1967
01:32:04,823 --> 01:32:08,435
in doing good on Planet Earth--
courage.
1968
01:32:08,523 --> 01:32:13,484
You cannot do good if you
are afraid of being attacked,
1969
01:32:13,571 --> 01:32:17,836
but the first thing is to
decide, "I will be courageous."
1970
01:32:17,923 --> 01:32:20,970
[uplifting music]
1971
01:32:21,057 --> 01:32:26,105
♪ ♪
1972
01:32:26,192 --> 01:32:28,499
- Tonight's concert
featuring Dennis Prager
1973
01:32:28,586 --> 01:32:29,935
kicked off a couple
of hours ago,
1974
01:32:30,022 --> 01:32:31,807
but it looks like
a planned boycott
1975
01:32:31,894 --> 01:32:33,896
of the event has backfired.
1976
01:32:33,983 --> 01:32:36,028
I'm told that inside
the concert hall
1977
01:32:36,115 --> 01:32:38,161
there's not one empty seat.
1978
01:32:38,248 --> 01:32:40,119
It's a total sellout.
1979
01:32:41,643 --> 01:32:44,515
[cheers and applause]
1980
01:32:58,921 --> 01:33:00,400
- It's hard to deal
with all that love.
1981
01:33:00,487 --> 01:33:01,619
[laughter]
1982
01:33:01,706 --> 01:33:04,535
It is, actually.
I'm overwhelmed.
1983
01:33:04,622 --> 01:33:05,797
Thank you all for coming.
1984
01:33:08,974 --> 01:33:11,760
[orchestra playing
classical music]
1985
01:33:11,847 --> 01:33:14,589
♪ ♪
1986
01:33:16,242 --> 01:33:17,809
I've seen the world;
I've been abroad
1987
01:33:17,896 --> 01:33:20,682
every single year
since I was 20.
1988
01:33:20,769 --> 01:33:24,599
This uniqueness of America,
the "so what"...
1989
01:33:24,686 --> 01:33:26,165
So you're a Turk
and you're a Jew,
1990
01:33:26,252 --> 01:33:28,733
and you're a this and you're
a that, it doesn't matter.
1991
01:33:28,820 --> 01:33:30,300
Why?
1992
01:33:30,387 --> 01:33:33,956
Because we celebrate the human,
not the group.
1993
01:33:34,043 --> 01:33:36,698
[uplifting music]
1994
01:33:36,785 --> 01:33:40,527
- America was built on ideas,
1995
01:33:40,615 --> 01:33:44,619
and I built a living for
myself talking about ideas.
1996
01:33:45,881 --> 01:33:50,276
The only way we separate the
good ideas from the bad ideas
1997
01:33:50,363 --> 01:33:53,149
is to be free to say
whatever we want about them.
1998
01:33:55,194 --> 01:33:57,327
We're not all going to agree,
1999
01:33:57,414 --> 01:33:59,721
but that's what makes us
individuals,
2000
01:33:59,808 --> 01:34:02,071
and we can't lose that,
2001
01:34:02,158 --> 01:34:05,161
because this car is
too much fun to drive.
2002
01:34:07,511 --> 01:34:09,426
- America's not perfect.
2003
01:34:09,513 --> 01:34:11,167
Liberty's not easy.
2004
01:34:11,254 --> 01:34:13,212
It's not always comfortable,
2005
01:34:13,299 --> 01:34:15,084
but liberty is the flame
2006
01:34:15,171 --> 01:34:17,956
that lights the path
of human progress,
2007
01:34:18,043 --> 01:34:20,916
and we find our way
by raising our voices
2008
01:34:21,003 --> 01:34:23,222
in debate and dissent.
2009
01:34:24,746 --> 01:34:27,139
For ideas, for disagreement,
2010
01:34:27,226 --> 01:34:30,403
for being who you want to be,
2011
01:34:30,490 --> 01:34:34,277
America is the true
safe space.
2012
01:34:35,626 --> 01:34:38,629
[orchestra playing]
2013
01:34:38,716 --> 01:34:45,636
♪ ♪
2014
01:36:39,489 --> 01:36:42,318
[Dennis Quaid and The Sharks'
"Out of the Box"]
2015
01:36:42,405 --> 01:36:49,238
♪ ♪
2016
01:36:55,331 --> 01:36:58,551
- ♪ I don't care if I have
to climb a mountain ♪
2017
01:36:58,638 --> 01:37:00,640
♪ Cross a desert or an ocean ♪
2018
01:37:00,727 --> 01:37:03,556
♪ I am open to a different
point of view ♪
2019
01:37:05,036 --> 01:37:07,169
♪ Thinking out of the box ♪
2020
01:37:07,256 --> 01:37:11,521
♪ ♪
2021
01:37:11,608 --> 01:37:14,829
♪ It don't matter if you're
suffering a broken heart ♪
2022
01:37:14,916 --> 01:37:16,439
♪ Don't just sit around ♪
2023
01:37:16,526 --> 01:37:20,878
♪ Watching your life
fall apart ♪
2024
01:37:20,965 --> 01:37:23,011
♪ Think out of the box ♪
2025
01:37:23,098 --> 01:37:26,318
♪ ♪
2026
01:37:26,405 --> 01:37:28,494
♪ Your life is not your own ♪
2027
01:37:28,581 --> 01:37:33,412
♪ God owns your very bones,
and we all turn to dust ♪
2028
01:37:34,370 --> 01:37:36,372
♪ Close your eyes
and look inside ♪
2029
01:37:36,459 --> 01:37:42,073
♪ Wake up to the wonderful
feeling of being alive ♪
2030
01:37:43,292 --> 01:37:47,949
♪ And with love in our hearts,
joy in our souls ♪
2031
01:37:48,036 --> 01:37:49,515
♪ Life's way too short ♪
2032
01:37:49,602 --> 01:37:51,517
♪ So let's rock and roll ♪
2033
01:37:51,604 --> 01:37:53,780
♪ To the farthest star ♪
2034
01:37:53,868 --> 01:37:58,220
♪ Down the deepest,
darkest hole ♪
2035
01:37:58,307 --> 01:38:05,183
♪ ♪
2036
01:38:14,584 --> 01:38:18,109
- I feel the same way
about this as I feel about...
2037
01:38:18,196 --> 01:38:21,808
terrorism, which is...
2038
01:38:21,896 --> 01:38:24,028
Huh, something just--
2039
01:38:24,115 --> 01:38:26,335
Oh, there's a bee up there,
2040
01:38:26,422 --> 01:38:29,555
just pooped on me,
or whatever that thing--
2041
01:38:29,642 --> 01:38:32,123
- You have bee poop on you?
- I swear to God, I just did.
2042
01:38:32,210 --> 01:38:34,604
- I've never been pooped on
by a bee.
2043
01:38:34,691 --> 01:38:37,520
- Yeah, well,
maybe it pollinated me.
2044
01:38:37,607 --> 01:38:39,130
- Oh, my goodness.
2045
01:38:42,307 --> 01:38:43,395
- You're good.
- You got the bee?
2046
01:38:43,482 --> 01:38:47,051
- That was great.
- That's nice.
2047
01:38:47,138 --> 01:38:49,488
- But you realize
you cannot say,
2048
01:38:49,575 --> 01:38:53,014
"No animal was killed
in the making of this film."
2049
01:38:53,101 --> 01:38:56,539
[upbeat music]
2050
01:38:56,626 --> 01:38:59,281
- ♪ I'll tell you what ♪
2051
01:38:59,368 --> 01:39:02,937
♪ I will tell you what,
I'll tell you what ♪
2052
01:39:03,024 --> 01:39:06,592
♪ I will tell you what,
I'll tell you what ♪
2053
01:39:06,679 --> 01:39:11,641
♪ I will tell you what,
I will tell you what ♪
2054
01:39:11,728 --> 01:39:13,948
♪ I'll tell you what ♪
- ♪ Tell us what ♪
2055
01:39:14,035 --> 01:39:16,080
- ♪ I will tell you what,
I'll tell you what ♪
2056
01:39:16,167 --> 01:39:17,777
- ♪ Tell us what ♪
2057
01:39:17,864 --> 01:39:19,779
- ♪ I will tell you what,
I'll tell you what ♪
2058
01:39:19,866 --> 01:39:21,651
- ♪ Tell us what ♪
2059
01:39:21,738 --> 01:39:25,960
- ♪ I will tell you what,
I will tell you what ♪
2060
01:39:26,047 --> 01:39:28,005
♪ I'll tell you what ♪
- ♪ Tell us what ♪
2061
01:39:28,092 --> 01:39:29,746
- ♪ Tell you what ♪
2062
01:39:29,833 --> 01:39:31,269
- ♪ I will tell you what,
I'll tell you what ♪
2063
01:39:31,356 --> 01:39:32,792
- ♪ Tell us what ♪
- ♪ I'll tell you what ♪
2064
01:39:32,879 --> 01:39:34,620
- ♪ I will tell you what,
I'll tell you what ♪
2065
01:39:34,707 --> 01:39:36,579
- ♪ Tell us what ♪
2066
01:39:36,666 --> 01:39:40,626
- ♪ I will tell you what,
I will tell you what ♪
2067
01:39:40,713 --> 01:39:42,977
♪ I'll tell you what ♪
- ♪ Tell us what ♪
2068
01:39:43,064 --> 01:39:45,109
- ♪ I will tell you what,
I'll tell you what ♪
2069
01:39:45,196 --> 01:39:46,937
- ♪ Tell us what ♪
2070
01:39:47,024 --> 01:39:48,808
- ♪ I will tell you what,
I'll tell you what ♪
2071
01:39:48,895 --> 01:39:50,462
- ♪ Tell us what ♪
2072
01:39:50,549 --> 01:39:54,162
- ♪ I will tell you what,
I will tell you ♪
2073
01:39:54,249 --> 01:39:58,949
♪ I will tell you,
I will tell you what ♪
2074
01:40:00,211 --> 01:40:01,386
all:
♪ Say what? ♪
2075
01:40:01,473 --> 01:40:03,301
[glass clatters]
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