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[mysterious music]
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- [Kelli] I rememberjust
looking
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at all of the cows and the
plains.
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And at 19, thinking
to myself like wow,
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it's so much on this
Earth that I haven't seen
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and now I'm getting ready to go
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spend 15 years of
my life in prison.
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- [Attorney] Can you
speak your full name
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for the record please?
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- Kelli LeShawn Dillon Thomas.
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- [Attorney] Dillon
is your maiden name?
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- Yes.
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I was sentenced for shooting
and killing my husband.
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The most painful thing
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was when the police
came to get me
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and having to separate
between me and my children,
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even though I had protected
us from a monster.
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- [Attorney] The blue marks
are afflicted by your husband?
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- Yes.
- With?
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- An iron.
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- [Attorney] An iron?
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- Yes.
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- And this occurred
during a fight?
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- Yes.
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- [Attorney] And he put the
iron what, to your neck?
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[soft dramatic music]
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- Yes.
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I'm trying to remember
what my children felt like,
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their skin felt like, what
they breath smelled like.
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[dark foreboding music]
[inmates shouting]
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I cannot believe that my
life has come to this.
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[gate banging]
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I always been a fighter,
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but it wasn't truly birthed
until I was in prison.
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[dark foreboding music]
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- It's always hard to figure
out what to wear to prison
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because you can't wear red,
green, brown, khaki, orange
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or denim of any color.
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When people in
prison have a visit,
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they have to go
through a strip search
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and they have to
expose themselves
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in front of at least one
guard, if not many more.
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But usually visitors coming
in only wear black or white.
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And I decided at some point
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to bring a level of levity
and color into the visits.
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Folks inside loved it.
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They would see me coming and
start giggling and laughing
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about what wild shoes I had on.
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There was this one
correction officer
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who was like, "You
can't wear those shoes.
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And I was like, "Can
you point to the rule
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that says that these violate
any kind of dress code?"
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All the correctional officers
and the high-level folks
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from the Department
of Corrections
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were always treating
me like a small child.
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And so at some point, I
decided to just own it
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and take on the brand
of kind of being
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like a tacky whipper-snapper.
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[crickets chirping]
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[soft solemn music]
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Waking up and leaving the house
before 6:00 in the morning
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and driving to prison and
spending the day bearing witness
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to pretty significant trauma
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is really very draining.
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Whenever you're fighting
human rights abuses in prison,
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you never know what to expect.
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[birds chirping]
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- The first thing
I remember seeing,
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the girls yelling in the cells
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and it just looked like
top and bottom tier
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of caged animals.
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Everything was exposed.
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You have male officers who
can actually look in the cell
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and see women sitting on the
toilet, changing their pads.
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[inmates chattering]
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[soft intriguing music]
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A few years later,
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I began to experience
like abdominal pain.
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I was told I had a
abnormal pap smear
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and needed a cone biopsy
to look for cancer.
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The doctor said that it
seems like I had cysts
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that was growing on my ovaries.
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He asked me how old I was.
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I was about 24.
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He said, "Do you
want any children?"
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I said, "Yes, I have
two sons already.
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And because I'm not gonna
have a chance to raise them,
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I'm looking forward to meeting
someone who actually loves me
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and raising more children."
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So he said, "If I find cancer,
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do you want us to
do a hysterectomy?"
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And I say, "Yes, if
you find cancer."
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So me and four other girls were
called out to get chained up
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in order to go out for surgery.
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Everything's assembly line.
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We're all handed a piece
of paper by two nurses.
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They're standing there like,
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"You guys need to
hurry up and sign."
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We're trying to read as much
as we can to understand.
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But for the most
part, we're looking.
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They said, "This is for you
to consent to the surgery
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that you're having today."
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[soft intriguing music]
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[beeping medical monitor]
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When I came out, I felt
like something was wrong.
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He told me, "Everything is fine.
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We took out some cysts."
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So then I asked him,
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"Will I still be able
to have children?"
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He was like, "Yeah,
I don't see why not."
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[phone ringing]
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- Can you tell me where
you're calling from?
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[phone ringing]
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Do you mind if I get your name
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just in case we're disconnected?
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- Are you starting to
actually get more hope though
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around your own case?
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We were getting
hundreds of letters
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about horrible medical
abuses every month.
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But then one day, we got
this letter from Kelli Dillon
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and it was really troubling.
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[soft intriguing music]
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- [Kelli] It's almost
nine months passed
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and I haven't had my period.
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I got bad panic attacks, heart
palpitation, night sweats
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and I'm damn near
100 pounds smaller.
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[soft intriguing music]
[water pattering]
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- She was suffering
all these symptoms
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that were classic symptoms
of a surgical menopause,
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but she was a young
woman in her 20s.
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- Cynthia advised me,
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"You need to get your
medical records."
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After six months of fighting
to just get my medical records,
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Cynthia sat with me
in the visiting room
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and she read them to me.
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"It says that you had
abnormal cervical cells."
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I asked her, "Did it
ever say I have cancer?"
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She said, "No, you
never had cancer."
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I had been intentionally
sterilized and I
had been lied to.
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[soft intriguing music]
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- My name is Cynthia Chandler.
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I'm the co-director of the
Justice Network on Women
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which is a new organization
based in Oakland
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that provides legal services
and community organizing
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around the needs
of women prisoners.
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When I got out of
law school in 1995,
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I didn't know anything about
anything happening in prison
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until really meeting people
who were really living there,
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who had to make
prison their life.
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- I'm HIV and Hep-C co-infected.
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I'm self-disclosed.
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I had heard some bits
and pieces about Cynthia.
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She was a young white woman,
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a Harvard grad and
Cynthia came up to me.
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I can't like even imagine
what she's got to tell me.
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- We're failing to provide
the most basic care
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to the sickest and most
vulnerable of the women
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who are in this prison system.
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- She's an attorney for
compassionate release.
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And I was like
compassionate release?
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Like who does that?
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Like who fights for
somebody that's going to die
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and you fight to get them home?
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- Many of us watched
Rosemary Willeby die
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because the Department
of Corrections
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refused to acknowledge
that she was dying.
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Certainly her worst
nightmare came true.
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She died absolutely alone
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surrounded by not a single
person who she loved.
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- [Theresa] She started
making kind of sense to me
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how us women need to learn how
to defend ourselves legally
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and how we need to find a remedy
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for human rights
violations inside.
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It shouldn't be up to an inmate
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to have to sit and figure out
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what my T-cell count is
and what it means to me.
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- I watched two
women die on my yard
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that I was very close
to and that I knew.
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If I could see that the
whites in their eyes
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was yellow as a caution sign,
why couldn't somebody else?
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- [Cynthia] Healthcare
is so bleak.
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It's hard to imagine
it's even by accident.
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- [Reporter] Last year,
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there were about 150
formal complaints
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filed by inmates every month
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from allegations of incompetence
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to actual charges of
sexual harassment.
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- We have healthcare staff
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who you go in for
a cut on the finger
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likes to give you a pap smear.
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- For a chest cold,
"Lemme do a pap smear."
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- I've heard inmates tell me
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that they would deliberately
like to be examined.
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The only male contact they get.
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- You're telling me
they're coming in here
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in effect asking for them
as some sort of titillation?
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- It could very be,
could very well be.
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[soft intriguing music]
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- California's women's prisons
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have always had a horrific
track record of medical care.
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- This Friday, Judge Thelton
Henderson delivered a ruling
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that charged
deplorable conditions
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in state prisoner medical care.
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- They had doctors and what
looked like broom closets
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seeing prisoners.
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And I went and saw
them standing in line,
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the ceiling was dripping water
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and they were standing
in half-inch of water
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waiting to be seen.
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- [Cynthia] The federal courts
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took over the whole
healthcare system
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for California's prisons
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and placed it under
federal receivership
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to bring the healthcare up
to constitutional standards.
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- You know, people would say,
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"Well how dare you
know, a receiver
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or somebody come into our house
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and tell us how to do things."
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CDC is punishment
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and there was a lot of pushback
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on adding rehabilitation to
just CDC and making it CDCR.
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They really saw the
receivership is a threat.
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I worked at the Central
California Women's Facility
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for about 17 years.
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[wind chimes chiming]
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People that do things for image
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or that try to ensure
that they get their care,
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they're called inmate lovers.
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You're an inmate lover.
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[water trickling]
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I have some fear.
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What kind of
repercussions will I get
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for coming home and
talking about this?
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I took an oath when I
graduated from nursing school
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and it's that you do no harm.
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But inmates become numbers.
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You don't get names
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and that's what makes
it easy to abuse them.
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[soft foreboding music]
[birds chirping]
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[inmates chattering]
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- I was sitting down in
the middle of the yard.
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I see this young
African-American girl
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walk out of the medical building
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and she's holding
her abdomen area.
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And I said, "I know
it's not my business
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but what kinda
surgery did you have?"
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She said, "I had to get
a partial hysterectomy."
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I said, "For what?"
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She said, "Oh, they said
I had abnormal cells."
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And then that's when
the light bulb went off.
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Why's it all of a sudden
255
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we got all of these
reproductive problems?
256
00:14:06,939 --> 00:14:09,463
That's when I was like, "Aw
nah, this don't sound right."
257
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I made a phone call
back to Cynthia.
258
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I think that they been
doing this to other women.
259
00:14:21,388 --> 00:14:23,912
I started carrying a
briefcase with forms
260
00:14:23,956 --> 00:14:26,915
so I could help people
contact Justice Now.
261
00:14:26,959 --> 00:14:30,005
[soft intriguing music]
262
00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,748
[door banging]
263
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- Thanks to Kelli's organizing
264
00:14:36,011 --> 00:14:38,927
we were able to uncover
a dozen instances
265
00:14:38,971 --> 00:14:42,539
of people being sterilized
during other kinds of surgeries.
266
00:14:54,247 --> 00:14:56,553
[soft solemn music]
267
00:14:56,597 --> 00:14:59,121
- [Inmate] I put in a
request to see the doctor
268
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because I've had bad cramps.
269
00:15:01,384 --> 00:15:04,213
And he said, "You
have fibroid tumors
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00:15:04,257 --> 00:15:06,215
and severe endometriosis,
271
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so that causes a higher
risk of cervical cancer."
272
00:15:11,525 --> 00:15:13,353
And he talked me
into a hysterectomy.
273
00:15:13,396 --> 00:15:16,399
[soft solemn music]
274
00:15:19,707 --> 00:15:23,145
Four years later, I went
to an OB-GYN doctor.
275
00:15:23,189 --> 00:15:27,933
I asked him, "Did I have
tumors and endometriosis?"
276
00:15:29,673 --> 00:15:31,458
And he said, "I don't
see any of that on here."
277
00:15:33,634 --> 00:15:35,941
"He gave me hysterectomy
for severe cramps?"
278
00:15:37,638 --> 00:15:39,857
- [Inmate] He did a pelvic exam.
279
00:15:39,901 --> 00:15:40,728
- [Inmate] He gave
me some kinda test
280
00:15:40,771 --> 00:15:43,165
and said I had some fibroid.
281
00:15:43,209 --> 00:15:46,038
- [Inmate] I was told
that I had cancer cells.
282
00:15:46,081 --> 00:15:47,387
- [Inmate] They told
me that I had to have
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00:15:47,430 --> 00:15:48,388
my ovaries removed.
284
00:15:48,431 --> 00:15:50,216
I had no choice.
285
00:15:50,259 --> 00:15:51,304
- [Inmate] We actually
used to call 'em
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the surgeries of the month
287
00:15:52,653 --> 00:15:54,176
because they were
happening so frequently.
288
00:15:54,220 --> 00:15:56,613
So many people were
getting hysterectomies.
289
00:15:56,657 --> 00:15:58,746
That was a cure-all.
That's what it was.
290
00:16:15,110 --> 00:16:17,591
- It's usually impossible
to find representation
291
00:16:17,634 --> 00:16:19,332
for people who are
harmed in prison
292
00:16:19,375 --> 00:16:23,466
because the cases are both
too difficult and too costly
293
00:16:23,510 --> 00:16:25,381
and no attorneys will take them.
294
00:16:26,513 --> 00:16:29,995
In Kelli's case, the
harm was so egregious
295
00:16:30,038 --> 00:16:32,171
that we were able
to secure pro bono
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one of the best law firms in
the state to represent her.
297
00:16:35,696 --> 00:16:37,480
- Although the fight was in me,
298
00:16:37,524 --> 00:16:41,528
I was very much intimidated by
whom I was goin' up against.
299
00:16:42,964 --> 00:16:44,357
- [Attorney] I saw that you
had a number of health issues
300
00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:46,011
after surgery.
301
00:16:46,054 --> 00:16:49,492
- I felt like I was losing
a lot of weight at the time.
302
00:16:49,536 --> 00:16:51,059
I was in a lot of pain.
303
00:16:51,103 --> 00:16:53,235
I thought that I was dying.
304
00:16:53,279 --> 00:16:55,455
- [Attorney] What did you
weigh when you into prison?
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00:16:55,498 --> 00:16:58,414
- Like 235 pounds.
306
00:17:00,242 --> 00:17:01,200
- [Attorney] What was the
least that you weighed?
307
00:17:01,243 --> 00:17:02,897
- 118 pounds.
308
00:17:04,072 --> 00:17:05,813
The doctor thought maybe
I was a hypochondriac.
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00:17:06,988 --> 00:17:08,424
And he said, "that, um-
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that I should be happy
that I had lost weight.
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So many women would
love to have lost
312
00:17:14,169 --> 00:17:15,953
the amount of weight
that I've lost.
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00:17:15,997 --> 00:17:18,956
One doctor told me,
"Well how do you expect
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someone to treat you
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if you are,
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suing them?"
317
00:17:25,093 --> 00:17:26,703
- [Attorney] I'm gonna
bounce around that.
318
00:17:26,747 --> 00:17:29,576
Other than the offense that
you're currently in on,
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did you have any
other convictions?
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00:17:31,360 --> 00:17:33,449
- No.
- The circumstances
321
00:17:33,493 --> 00:17:35,930
that led to your
current incarceration,
tell me about that.
322
00:17:41,457 --> 00:17:44,156
You need to take a break?
323
00:17:44,199 --> 00:17:46,201
- They would have her recount
324
00:17:46,245 --> 00:17:48,551
everything about her
commitment offense
325
00:17:48,595 --> 00:17:50,553
because they're
looking for evidence
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00:17:50,597 --> 00:17:52,642
of her being someone who lies,
327
00:17:52,686 --> 00:17:57,125
of her being someone who
is lacking of character.
328
00:17:57,169 --> 00:17:58,344
- [Attorney] How many times
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did you receive
medical treatment
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for injuries you suffered as
a result of domestic violence?
331
00:18:03,523 --> 00:18:05,177
- Numerous. I can't,
332
00:18:05,220 --> 00:18:06,700
I don't know.
333
00:18:06,743 --> 00:18:08,484
I don't have a specific number.
334
00:18:08,528 --> 00:18:10,617
- [Attorney] Can you
gimme an estimate?
335
00:18:10,660 --> 00:18:11,705
Five, 10, 20?
336
00:18:14,664 --> 00:18:17,537
- You know, my heart
had already been broken.
337
00:18:17,580 --> 00:18:20,279
My spirit had
already been crushed.
338
00:18:20,322 --> 00:18:22,672
I didn't have nothin' to lose.
339
00:18:22,716 --> 00:18:25,719
[soft solemn music]
340
00:18:29,375 --> 00:18:32,552
My attorneys postponed the
trial until I actually paroled.
341
00:18:35,250 --> 00:18:40,037
I felt like I was going
to get a real chance.
342
00:18:43,693 --> 00:18:45,260
I don't know, I
just thought that
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00:18:45,304 --> 00:18:48,133
like maybe this was the
beginning of the tables turning.
344
00:18:49,482 --> 00:18:51,701
- [Cynthia] The
smoking gun in her case
345
00:18:51,745 --> 00:18:55,140
was that they cut off the
blood supply to her ovaries
346
00:18:55,183 --> 00:18:58,273
and removed them, dissected them
347
00:18:58,317 --> 00:19:00,232
and they were never
supposed to do any of that.
348
00:19:02,669 --> 00:19:05,367
- [Attorney] You knew that
your ovaries produce the eggs
349
00:19:05,411 --> 00:19:07,152
and an egg was required
to have a baby.
350
00:19:07,195 --> 00:19:08,327
- Yes.
351
00:19:08,370 --> 00:19:09,632
- [Attorney] In your complaint,
352
00:19:09,676 --> 00:19:10,851
it's alleged that
if you'd had known
353
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there was a possibility
that your ovaries
354
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might have been removed
during the surgery
355
00:19:14,637 --> 00:19:16,552
you would not have
consented to it.
356
00:19:16,596 --> 00:19:18,250
- Yes.
- Was the plan
357
00:19:18,293 --> 00:19:20,121
that if he found
cancer at surgery,
358
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that he was going to
add that same surgery
359
00:19:22,558 --> 00:19:23,690
to a partial hysterectomy?
360
00:19:25,126 --> 00:19:26,780
- That was my understanding.
361
00:19:26,823 --> 00:19:29,391
- She consented to
removing everything
362
00:19:29,435 --> 00:19:31,828
if and only if she had cancer
363
00:19:31,872 --> 00:19:34,527
and it had spread
and was invasive.
364
00:19:34,570 --> 00:19:36,137
She didn't have cancer.
365
00:19:36,181 --> 00:19:37,530
- [Attorney] At any point
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00:19:37,573 --> 00:19:39,358
while you were at Madera
Community Hospital,
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00:19:39,401 --> 00:19:40,794
did anybody tell you
that all of your ovaries
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00:19:40,837 --> 00:19:42,143
had been removed?
369
00:19:42,187 --> 00:19:43,710
- No.
370
00:19:43,753 --> 00:19:45,015
- [Attorney] When's
the first time a doctor
371
00:19:45,059 --> 00:19:46,321
told you that you may
be missing your ovaries?
372
00:19:46,365 --> 00:19:47,931
- No one ever told me that.
373
00:19:47,975 --> 00:19:49,106
- [Attorney] No medical
doctors ever said that to you.
374
00:19:49,150 --> 00:19:49,803
- No.
375
00:19:51,979 --> 00:19:55,548
The jury was predominantly
white from Fresno County.
376
00:19:57,332 --> 00:19:59,160
I'm looking at this jury
377
00:20:01,206 --> 00:20:04,905
hoping that they would
say, "This is wrong.
378
00:20:04,948 --> 00:20:06,950
No matter what or
why she was there,
379
00:20:06,994 --> 00:20:08,561
she didn't deserve
this to happen to her.
380
00:20:09,953 --> 00:20:12,260
- After a seven-day trial,
381
00:20:12,304 --> 00:20:16,221
the jury believed the
doctors' versions of events
382
00:20:16,264 --> 00:20:18,353
that Kelli knew
something was wrong
383
00:20:18,397 --> 00:20:20,399
at the end of the surgery,
384
00:20:20,442 --> 00:20:23,532
that she then missed the
time she had to bring a claim
385
00:20:23,576 --> 00:20:26,231
under the statute of limitations
386
00:20:26,274 --> 00:20:30,235
and they use that to just
dismiss all of her claims.
387
00:20:32,541 --> 00:20:37,067
- I watch my lead attorney
as well as her team
388
00:20:37,111 --> 00:20:41,246
walk out the room and tears
begin to roll down their eyes.
389
00:20:44,292 --> 00:20:45,902
And I just looked
at them and I said,
390
00:20:45,946 --> 00:20:48,905
"Thank you for fighting for me
391
00:20:50,777 --> 00:20:53,170
even if it was just
for the fight."
392
00:20:53,214 --> 00:20:55,912
[soft solemn music]
393
00:20:57,349 --> 00:20:59,438
- Question 43,
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If you found for a plaintiff
on any of her claims
395
00:21:02,441 --> 00:21:04,312
and found that those
claims were not barred
396
00:21:04,356 --> 00:21:06,488
by any statute of limitations,
397
00:21:06,532 --> 00:21:09,448
what total damages do
you award Ms. Thomas?
398
00:21:09,491 --> 00:21:10,492
Zero dollars.
399
00:21:12,842 --> 00:21:13,669
Zero dollars.
400
00:21:15,105 --> 00:21:15,628
Zero dollars.
401
00:21:19,284 --> 00:21:22,199
- I was looking
at these documents
402
00:21:22,243 --> 00:21:26,247
that was confirming
that as a Black woman
403
00:21:26,291 --> 00:21:28,336
my life wasn't shit.
404
00:21:28,380 --> 00:21:29,642
It didn't mean anything.
405
00:21:29,685 --> 00:21:31,121
It had no purpose.
406
00:21:32,427 --> 00:21:35,604
[soft intriguing music]
407
00:22:03,197 --> 00:22:06,200
I really couldn't
enjoy my coming home.
408
00:22:08,637 --> 00:22:10,683
My mind was in a trial
409
00:22:10,726 --> 00:22:13,512
for the first three
months of my freedom.
410
00:22:17,037 --> 00:22:19,953
This photo album I
kept with me in prison.
411
00:22:23,173 --> 00:22:24,479
This is my favorite picture,
412
00:22:24,523 --> 00:22:26,394
Anthony comin' to
visit me in prison.
413
00:22:29,571 --> 00:22:33,445
Outta the 15 years I was there,
we had about five visits.
414
00:22:38,145 --> 00:22:40,669
When I left, my sons
was two and four.
415
00:22:40,713 --> 00:22:42,279
So I'm watching my
children grow up
416
00:22:42,323 --> 00:22:43,759
on the other side of a glass.
417
00:22:45,935 --> 00:22:46,675
It was hard.
418
00:22:49,156 --> 00:22:53,421
When I came home, they
were 16 and 18 years old.
419
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,339
I begin to hear
from my children,
420
00:22:58,383 --> 00:22:59,645
"You didn't have
to go to prison.
421
00:22:59,688 --> 00:23:00,559
You chose to."
422
00:23:03,257 --> 00:23:05,738
I said, "Did they ever tell
you how much I loved you?
423
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,394
Did they ever tell
you of what I did
424
00:23:09,437 --> 00:23:12,397
in order to make sure that a
hand was never laid on you?"
425
00:23:17,576 --> 00:23:20,274
I posted this up on my Facebook
426
00:23:20,317 --> 00:23:22,798
and it said, "This is what
domestic violence looks like."
427
00:23:26,411 --> 00:23:27,977
Looking at this picture,
428
00:23:28,021 --> 00:23:30,545
you can never see that I was
a victim of domestic violence
429
00:23:32,068 --> 00:23:34,549
'cause it looks like we
madly in love, you know?
430
00:23:34,593 --> 00:23:37,596
[soft solemn music]
431
00:23:49,434 --> 00:23:52,045
[birds chirping]
432
00:23:54,439 --> 00:23:56,353
- [Kids] Come on.
433
00:23:56,397 --> 00:23:57,659
- [Cynthia] Okay.
434
00:23:57,703 --> 00:23:58,921
Here, I'll get the door for you.
435
00:24:00,314 --> 00:24:02,751
[hen clucking]
436
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,668
- Oh.
- Oh.
437
00:24:06,712 --> 00:24:07,974
- Gross.
438
00:24:08,017 --> 00:24:09,323
- [Sophia] That was
a rotten egg too.
439
00:24:09,366 --> 00:24:10,237
- Okay then.
- I don't know
440
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,413
if I wanna pick up the next one.
441
00:24:12,457 --> 00:24:14,284
- This one's okay.
442
00:24:14,328 --> 00:24:16,765
[birds chirping]
443
00:24:26,079 --> 00:24:28,473
- My mom-
- My mom is eccentric.
444
00:24:28,516 --> 00:24:30,039
- My mom is
445
00:24:31,388 --> 00:24:32,912
weird, yeah.
446
00:24:34,391 --> 00:24:37,133
Professionally, she's a person
who gets people outta prison.
447
00:24:37,177 --> 00:24:41,877
And for fun, she's just
like bleh and spazzes out.
448
00:24:41,921 --> 00:24:43,444
- She talks to people
449
00:24:43,488 --> 00:24:46,012
and then she writes
stuff on the computer
450
00:24:46,055 --> 00:24:48,362
and then she makes
sure people does stuff.
451
00:24:48,405 --> 00:24:49,668
- She has meetings a lot.
452
00:24:49,711 --> 00:24:51,321
- Yeah.
453
00:24:51,365 --> 00:24:53,628
- [Lilah] And she goes to a
prison in the desert a lot.
454
00:24:53,672 --> 00:24:55,500
- [Sophia] And then she'd cry.
455
00:24:55,543 --> 00:24:56,631
- She cries a lot.
456
00:24:56,675 --> 00:24:57,632
- For a long time.
- Yeah.
457
00:24:59,591 --> 00:25:02,550
- Activism's very
labor-intensive and annoying
458
00:25:02,594 --> 00:25:03,682
and I would not do it.
459
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,295
It's important but boring.
460
00:25:08,338 --> 00:25:10,123
- Yeah.
- I'd rather do genetics.
461
00:25:10,166 --> 00:25:11,559
- Ditto.
462
00:25:11,603 --> 00:25:13,648
- You don't even know
what genetics are.
463
00:25:13,692 --> 00:25:15,694
- I know, right? [chuckles]
464
00:25:15,737 --> 00:25:18,697
[soft solemn music]
465
00:25:20,612 --> 00:25:23,179
- I grew up in a really
controlled household.
466
00:25:24,529 --> 00:25:28,707
My house was our museum-perfect,
photo-ready at all times.
467
00:25:31,623 --> 00:25:34,277
I'm doing things that
were just in the face
468
00:25:34,321 --> 00:25:36,279
of what social norms
and standards were.
469
00:25:36,323 --> 00:25:38,934
It was very key to
my teenage years
470
00:25:38,978 --> 00:25:41,589
of rebelling against
my household.
471
00:25:41,633 --> 00:25:44,244
I was the only girl in my
entire school with a Mohawk.
472
00:25:45,462 --> 00:25:46,725
There were kids in my
school who were like,
473
00:25:46,768 --> 00:25:50,598
"Why do you look so
weird?" [chuckles]
474
00:25:50,642 --> 00:25:51,817
"Why do you do this?"
475
00:25:53,906 --> 00:25:56,691
I found a sense of
community and comradery
476
00:25:56,735 --> 00:26:00,173
with teens that were living
and working on the streets.
477
00:26:02,131 --> 00:26:05,613
We used to hang out by the
Liberty Bell in Philadelphia
478
00:26:05,657 --> 00:26:07,963
and snarl and make faces.
479
00:26:08,007 --> 00:26:09,791
We'll have our punk regalia on
480
00:26:09,835 --> 00:26:12,011
and charge like five bucks
a picture from tourists.
481
00:26:12,054 --> 00:26:14,143
So there could be something
as innocent as that
482
00:26:14,187 --> 00:26:18,626
to people selling drugs
to people selling sex,
483
00:26:18,670 --> 00:26:22,282
basically doing whatever
they had to do to get by.
484
00:26:24,284 --> 00:26:27,896
You couldn't hang out
with kids in the 1980s
485
00:26:27,940 --> 00:26:29,811
in the emergence
of the HIV epidemic
486
00:26:29,855 --> 00:26:33,467
and not understand the
horrors of policing,
487
00:26:33,510 --> 00:26:34,990
the horrors of what happens
488
00:26:35,034 --> 00:26:36,426
when people don't have
access to healthcare,
489
00:26:36,470 --> 00:26:38,298
the horrors of racism.
490
00:26:38,341 --> 00:26:39,995
All of this stuff
all intertwined.
491
00:26:42,302 --> 00:26:44,434
I could be with those kids
in the same street corner
492
00:26:44,478 --> 00:26:46,654
and my life was gonna
turn out differently
493
00:26:46,698 --> 00:26:49,048
because of my class privilege
and racial privilege.
494
00:26:52,791 --> 00:26:54,531
And so I felt like
it behooved me
495
00:26:54,575 --> 00:26:55,924
to do something to change that.
496
00:27:08,937 --> 00:27:12,114
We were all really optimistic
about Kelli's case.
497
00:27:12,158 --> 00:27:14,073
It seemed like one of
those rare instances
498
00:27:14,116 --> 00:27:15,944
where we really could
see justice happen.
499
00:27:17,772 --> 00:27:19,992
When she lost, it
was just devastating.
500
00:27:23,169 --> 00:27:26,520
And then suddenly,
a whistleblower
sent us the minutes
501
00:27:26,563 --> 00:27:27,956
of a recent committee meeting
502
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,741
of the California
Department of Corrections.
503
00:27:32,178 --> 00:27:33,483
I was trying to figure
out what to search for
504
00:27:33,527 --> 00:27:36,225
and I thought for sure
it would be hidden.
505
00:27:36,269 --> 00:27:37,574
And then I saw the header:
506
00:27:37,618 --> 00:27:39,489
"Birth Control and
Sterilization".
507
00:27:39,533 --> 00:27:40,665
Right there.
508
00:27:40,708 --> 00:27:42,188
[soft intriguing music]
509
00:27:42,231 --> 00:27:44,712
Their research showed it
would be very cost-effective
510
00:27:44,756 --> 00:27:46,671
to sterilize women during
labor and delivery.
511
00:27:49,761 --> 00:27:51,719
- They were discussing
within their meeting
512
00:27:51,763 --> 00:27:54,330
about how to reclassify
tubal ligation
513
00:27:54,374 --> 00:27:55,680
as medically necessary
514
00:27:55,723 --> 00:27:57,856
in order for it to be
paid for by the state.
515
00:27:57,899 --> 00:27:59,684
- Federal and
state laws prohibit
516
00:27:59,727 --> 00:28:01,598
sterilizing people in prison
517
00:28:01,642 --> 00:28:03,470
for the purpose
of birth control,
518
00:28:03,513 --> 00:28:05,037
but they were doing it anyway.
519
00:28:06,473 --> 00:28:10,869
So we sent a list of questions
to the Federal Receivership.
520
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,785
The whole job of that
office is to make sure
521
00:28:13,828 --> 00:28:15,961
the laws are followed
in healthcare delivery
in the prisons.
522
00:28:17,179 --> 00:28:18,398
One of the questions was had
523
00:28:18,441 --> 00:28:20,487
they in fact started
sterilizing women
524
00:28:20,530 --> 00:28:21,749
during labor and delivery?
525
00:28:23,620 --> 00:28:24,926
And the response was that
yes, they were doing that
526
00:28:24,970 --> 00:28:26,145
at two women's prisons.
527
00:28:29,104 --> 00:28:32,020
This was signed by the
Federal Receiver himself.
528
00:28:32,064 --> 00:28:36,155
And could he be so clueless
that he wouldn't even know
529
00:28:36,198 --> 00:28:38,940
that he had just like stuck
his foot in his mouth?
530
00:28:38,984 --> 00:28:42,161
[soft intriguing music]
531
00:28:43,292 --> 00:28:44,772
Any hearing that came up
532
00:28:44,816 --> 00:28:47,949
that even touched on
women's prisons I would go.
533
00:28:47,993 --> 00:28:51,953
So there's a federal
law that made it illegal
534
00:28:51,997 --> 00:28:55,827
for any entity that gets federal
dollars to sterilize people
535
00:28:55,870 --> 00:28:58,046
for the purpose of birth
control who are in prisons.
536
00:28:58,090 --> 00:29:00,048
And then I would present
people the minutes
537
00:29:00,092 --> 00:29:03,051
and I would say, "Hey, this
state has recommended this.
538
00:29:03,095 --> 00:29:04,313
This is outrageous.
539
00:29:04,357 --> 00:29:06,054
This is illegal
under federal law."
540
00:29:06,098 --> 00:29:09,014
They see that as a
cost-effective moment,
541
00:29:09,057 --> 00:29:12,452
an opportune moment in
which to sterilize people.
542
00:29:12,495 --> 00:29:13,975
- We're assured that, "No, no.
543
00:29:14,019 --> 00:29:15,803
That was just something that
544
00:29:15,847 --> 00:29:17,109
people talked about
in that meeting,
545
00:29:17,152 --> 00:29:18,719
but they actually
weren't gonna do,"
546
00:29:18,763 --> 00:29:20,677
or, "It was just on the side.
547
00:29:20,721 --> 00:29:22,462
It wasn't a big deal.
548
00:29:22,505 --> 00:29:24,029
They're not actually doing that.
549
00:29:24,072 --> 00:29:25,857
Just don't worry your
pretty little heads."
550
00:29:25,900 --> 00:29:28,816
- We were met with
comments like,
551
00:29:28,860 --> 00:29:31,427
"Well those women wouldn't
really wanna have more children
552
00:29:31,471 --> 00:29:32,515
anyway, would they?"
553
00:29:42,221 --> 00:29:45,180
- I was in between projects,
554
00:29:45,224 --> 00:29:48,488
so I was you know,
kinda prospecting
555
00:29:48,531 --> 00:29:53,014
and CNN was playing
in the background.
556
00:29:54,886 --> 00:29:55,974
- Tonight, a report on a
really disturbing chapter
557
00:29:56,017 --> 00:29:57,497
in our history.
558
00:29:57,540 --> 00:29:58,803
One that's a lot more
recent than you might think.
559
00:29:58,846 --> 00:30:00,239
So we're talking about eugenics,
560
00:30:00,282 --> 00:30:02,415
a word which obviously
it typically associated
561
00:30:02,458 --> 00:30:04,156
with Nazi Germany.
562
00:30:04,199 --> 00:30:06,027
But there was a large
eugenics movement in America
563
00:30:06,071 --> 00:30:07,855
before and after World War II.
564
00:30:07,899 --> 00:30:09,117
- [Reporter] The goal?
565
00:30:09,161 --> 00:30:11,903
To rid the country
of the feeble-minded.
566
00:30:11,946 --> 00:30:16,168
- Disability, race and
gender were the criteria.
567
00:30:16,211 --> 00:30:20,215
By the 1930s, 30
states had passed laws
568
00:30:20,259 --> 00:30:23,001
allowing for coercive
sterilization.
569
00:30:23,044 --> 00:30:25,873
- [Reporter] But California
was in a league of its own.
570
00:30:25,917 --> 00:30:29,442
The Golden State
sterilized 20,000 people.
571
00:30:29,485 --> 00:30:30,617
- That blew my mind.
572
00:30:32,532 --> 00:30:35,056
More people were
sterilized in California
573
00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:38,494
than any other state
in the country.
574
00:30:38,538 --> 00:30:39,626
[soft intriguing music]
575
00:30:44,936 --> 00:30:47,634
The Germans actually
came over to California
576
00:30:47,677 --> 00:30:51,899
to study California's program
and then use the lessons
577
00:30:51,943 --> 00:30:55,990
to create their eugenics
program in Nazi Germany.
578
00:30:56,034 --> 00:30:57,862
- [Dorothy] After World War II,
579
00:30:57,905 --> 00:31:01,996
eugenics goes sort
of underground.
580
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,173
- [Announcer] The distribution
of people is far off balance.
581
00:31:05,217 --> 00:31:08,307
High birth rates go hand
in hand with low incomes.
582
00:31:08,350 --> 00:31:13,399
- It became more a policy
of population control
583
00:31:14,574 --> 00:31:17,142
through birth control
policy, welfare policy.
584
00:31:17,185 --> 00:31:20,449
And now it was targeted
mostly at women of color.
585
00:31:20,493 --> 00:31:21,581
♪ Got enough children
586
00:31:21,624 --> 00:31:23,017
♪ What do we do
587
00:31:23,061 --> 00:31:24,540
♪ Got enough children
588
00:31:24,584 --> 00:31:26,151
♪ What do we do
589
00:31:26,194 --> 00:31:28,718
- [Dorothy] There are
government-sponsored campaigns
590
00:31:28,762 --> 00:31:32,940
to sterilize Indigenous
women, women of Puerto Rico,
591
00:31:32,984 --> 00:31:35,943
Mexican-origin
women in California,
592
00:31:35,987 --> 00:31:39,077
as well as Black women
in the United States.
593
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,905
- [Reporter] You're
saying sterilize the woman
594
00:31:40,948 --> 00:31:42,341
if she's had more than
two illegitimate children.
595
00:31:42,384 --> 00:31:43,690
- Right.
596
00:31:43,733 --> 00:31:44,473
- [Reporter] If
she's on welfare.
597
00:31:44,517 --> 00:31:45,910
- Absolutely.
598
00:31:45,953 --> 00:31:47,433
- Last week, a
Black Alabama couple
599
00:31:47,476 --> 00:31:50,088
filed a $1 million damage
suit against the government
600
00:31:50,131 --> 00:31:52,394
charging that their two
daughters had been sterilized
601
00:31:52,438 --> 00:31:54,483
without their informed consent.
602
00:31:54,527 --> 00:31:56,268
- I put a X on a piece of paper,
603
00:31:56,311 --> 00:32:00,968
then she told me that they
were gon' give us some shots.
604
00:32:02,187 --> 00:32:03,753
That's what she told me.
- I see.
605
00:32:03,797 --> 00:32:04,667
- [Reporter] Why were
they giving you the shots
606
00:32:04,711 --> 00:32:06,191
in the first place?
607
00:32:06,234 --> 00:32:09,194
- [Interviewee] Keepin'
us from having children.
608
00:32:09,237 --> 00:32:12,675
They said they didn't want
us to have no children.
609
00:32:12,719 --> 00:32:14,286
- [Reporter] Did it hurt you?
610
00:32:14,329 --> 00:32:17,071
[soft solemn music]
611
00:32:19,204 --> 00:32:22,468
- Doctors around the country
performed hysterectomies
612
00:32:22,511 --> 00:32:25,906
on young Black women just
to practice hysterectomies.
613
00:32:27,342 --> 00:32:29,431
- [Anderson] Tens of thousands
of Americans were operated on
614
00:32:29,475 --> 00:32:31,694
against their will or
without their consent.
615
00:32:31,738 --> 00:32:34,349
- [Reporter] The government
today announced strict new rules
616
00:32:34,393 --> 00:32:36,090
to protect people
who are sterilized.
617
00:32:36,134 --> 00:32:38,005
- [Reporter] Guidelines
to require written
informed consent.
618
00:32:38,049 --> 00:32:40,225
- Federal judge.
- To affect more than 100,000
619
00:32:40,268 --> 00:32:42,444
persons a year.
- Minors under age 21,
620
00:32:42,488 --> 00:32:43,750
welfare mothers, others.
621
00:32:47,058 --> 00:32:50,670
- The ideas sparked in my head
that I would spend some time
622
00:32:50,713 --> 00:32:53,978
looking at historical
eugenics in California.
623
00:32:55,544 --> 00:32:58,243
I started to Google
and I saw an article
624
00:32:58,286 --> 00:33:00,810
that Cynthia
Chandler had written.
625
00:33:00,854 --> 00:33:03,030
And so I immediately
called her up
626
00:33:03,074 --> 00:33:06,294
and I was like, "Is it true
627
00:33:06,338 --> 00:33:10,820
that there are people in the
prisons getting sterilized?"
628
00:33:10,864 --> 00:33:12,387
And she said, "Of
course, it's true."
629
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,043
- We've heard from
a lotta people
630
00:33:16,087 --> 00:33:19,220
about the surgeries that
are happening on the inside.
631
00:33:21,092 --> 00:33:24,878
What a hysterectomy is? It's
the removal of your uterus.
632
00:33:24,921 --> 00:33:27,446
They typically would take
the fallopian tubes as well
633
00:33:27,489 --> 00:33:29,709
and possibly the ovaries.
634
00:33:29,752 --> 00:33:31,711
When the ovaries are removed
635
00:33:31,754 --> 00:33:33,930
and there's that big
drop in estrogen,
636
00:33:33,974 --> 00:33:35,671
people can have a lotta
different symptoms:
637
00:33:35,715 --> 00:33:37,543
having a lot of hot flashes,
638
00:33:37,586 --> 00:33:40,807
big mood changes and
your period stops.
639
00:33:40,850 --> 00:33:42,548
And then another thing that
we were hearing from people
640
00:33:42,591 --> 00:33:44,028
was tubal ligation.
641
00:33:44,071 --> 00:33:47,422
The surgeon will cut
the fallopian tubes.
642
00:33:47,466 --> 00:33:51,252
We've heard from individuals
who were asked to sign forms
643
00:33:51,296 --> 00:33:53,472
when they were being
put under anesthesia.
644
00:33:53,515 --> 00:33:57,084
If the doctor is
asking repeatedly and
you don't say yes,
645
00:33:57,128 --> 00:33:58,868
they might just go
ahead and do it anyway.
646
00:33:58,912 --> 00:34:01,306
Especially if you're
having a C-section, right?
647
00:34:01,349 --> 00:34:04,961
Because your reproductive
organs, all of this good stuff
648
00:34:05,005 --> 00:34:08,008
is already out on the
table basically, literally.
649
00:34:08,052 --> 00:34:09,923
It would not be
difficult, you know?
650
00:34:09,966 --> 00:34:13,361
Cut and cauterize your
tubes if they wanted to
651
00:34:13,405 --> 00:34:15,798
and you don't know that.
652
00:34:15,842 --> 00:34:18,149
You can't have more
children in the future.
653
00:34:20,020 --> 00:34:22,718
[soft solemn music]
654
00:34:30,248 --> 00:34:33,164
- I was given a six month
sentence and I was pregnant,
655
00:34:34,904 --> 00:34:38,299
so I asked the judge
if I could either
656
00:34:39,344 --> 00:34:41,520
be sent to a
mother/infant program
657
00:34:41,563 --> 00:34:43,957
instead of going to prison,
658
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,568
that way I could avoid
giving birth in prison
659
00:34:46,612 --> 00:34:48,744
and being separated
from my newborn baby.
660
00:34:49,876 --> 00:34:51,791
And she didn't wanna do that.
661
00:34:54,185 --> 00:34:55,838
They made me have a C-section.
662
00:34:57,927 --> 00:35:01,931
And I kept asking them, "Why
do I have to have a C-section?"
663
00:35:01,975 --> 00:35:03,759
They said, "Because
of security purposes."
664
00:35:06,371 --> 00:35:07,937
"You're gonna do
major surgery on me
665
00:35:07,981 --> 00:35:11,027
and cut open my body
for security purposes?"
666
00:35:14,074 --> 00:35:16,946
I get to the Madera
County Hospital.
667
00:35:16,990 --> 00:35:20,646
I'm handcuffed to the bed,
cut open under anesthesia.
668
00:35:20,689 --> 00:35:21,821
Had a epidural.
669
00:35:21,864 --> 00:35:25,825
I'm just majorly drugged up
670
00:35:25,868 --> 00:35:28,306
to where I don't even know
671
00:35:28,349 --> 00:35:29,959
probably what day
of the week it is.
672
00:35:32,919 --> 00:35:36,401
The doctor had me sign a form.
673
00:35:36,444 --> 00:35:38,751
He said, "Are we doin'
tubal ligation here?"
674
00:35:39,882 --> 00:35:41,232
That's something you're
supposed to sit down
675
00:35:41,275 --> 00:35:43,712
and discuss in the office
prior to the surgery.
676
00:35:44,974 --> 00:35:46,454
That's not something
you just throw on me
677
00:35:46,498 --> 00:35:47,629
as you're cutting me open.
678
00:35:50,110 --> 00:35:53,592
And I declined and I couldn't
even sign, so I just put an X.
679
00:35:55,159 --> 00:35:56,812
And I have no idea what I X'd.
680
00:36:04,516 --> 00:36:06,126
- We started putting in a series
681
00:36:06,170 --> 00:36:07,780
of public record act requests
682
00:36:07,823 --> 00:36:10,739
to get the numbers
and the data on
683
00:36:10,783 --> 00:36:13,177
how many people were sterilized.
684
00:36:13,220 --> 00:36:14,830
- So this is all the data.
685
00:36:14,874 --> 00:36:17,703
This is vaginal deliveries
and C-sections in here.
686
00:36:17,746 --> 00:36:20,358
- [Cynthia] 222 C-sections.
687
00:36:20,401 --> 00:36:23,230
393 births.
688
00:36:23,274 --> 00:36:25,972
That's a really remarkably
high rate of C-section.
689
00:36:26,015 --> 00:36:27,147
- [Robin] Yeah.
690
00:36:28,148 --> 00:36:29,889
- [Cynthia] It's a
little fishy to imagine
691
00:36:29,932 --> 00:36:33,066
that multiple people would be
giving birth on the same day,
692
00:36:33,109 --> 00:36:34,372
also having C-sections
693
00:36:34,415 --> 00:36:36,504
and also choosing to
have tubal ligations.
694
00:36:39,377 --> 00:36:42,380
- [Robin] So you can see
there's ligate oviducts add-on.
695
00:36:42,423 --> 00:36:45,948
And that kinda kills
me, the add-on part.
696
00:36:45,992 --> 00:36:47,776
It wasn't necessary
for the surgery,
697
00:36:47,820 --> 00:36:49,517
but we thought
we'd just take away
698
00:36:49,561 --> 00:36:50,518
your reproductive capacity.
699
00:36:52,390 --> 00:36:56,524
[soft intriguing music]
700
00:36:56,568 --> 00:36:59,788
- Justice Now had
gotten a partial list
701
00:36:59,832 --> 00:37:02,704
of tubal ligation surgeries
702
00:37:02,748 --> 00:37:05,185
that have been
reimbursed to the doctor.
703
00:37:05,229 --> 00:37:07,796
So the state were
paying the doctors
704
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,017
for having performed
these surgeries.
705
00:37:11,060 --> 00:37:12,627
As an investigative reporter,
706
00:37:12,671 --> 00:37:17,545
I've seen spreadsheets
that have fields removed.
707
00:37:17,589 --> 00:37:20,374
I was like, "There's
more to this data
708
00:37:20,418 --> 00:37:21,941
than what you guys have."
709
00:37:25,205 --> 00:37:29,644
There is a culture of
secrecy in California.
710
00:37:29,688 --> 00:37:31,994
They don't call it secrecy.
They call it privacy.
711
00:37:32,038 --> 00:37:34,823
Not only do you have
women in prison,
712
00:37:34,867 --> 00:37:39,045
you have laws around protecting
their confidentiality.
713
00:37:39,088 --> 00:37:41,482
But then you have
medical privacy.
714
00:37:41,526 --> 00:37:44,311
There's just layers
and layers of
715
00:37:45,921 --> 00:37:49,664
plausible reasons why
somebody can say no.
716
00:37:49,708 --> 00:37:52,754
So I was getting doors slammed
717
00:37:52,798 --> 00:37:55,801
and stonewalled left and right.
718
00:37:55,844 --> 00:37:57,803
Then it became a question of
719
00:37:57,846 --> 00:38:00,458
how do I put a human
face on this data?
720
00:38:02,503 --> 00:38:07,073
Justice Now had access on the
inside that I didn't have.
721
00:38:07,116 --> 00:38:11,120
And so I was very anxious.
722
00:38:11,164 --> 00:38:12,905
You know, hook me up here.
723
00:38:12,948 --> 00:38:15,734
Gimme access to somebody
who can help me.
724
00:38:18,563 --> 00:38:23,307
- In 2006, I was sentenced to
Valley State Prison for women.
725
00:38:23,350 --> 00:38:25,787
I was 21 years old and I
was pregnant at the time.
726
00:38:28,181 --> 00:38:31,140
- Someone asked me to
work down at the prison
727
00:38:31,184 --> 00:38:32,664
in my OB department.
728
00:38:32,707 --> 00:38:34,883
And I'm like "OB department?
729
00:38:34,927 --> 00:38:37,886
You have an OB
department in the prison?
730
00:38:37,930 --> 00:38:38,496
"Yeah.
731
00:38:39,932 --> 00:38:41,325
You know, women
come in pregnant."
732
00:38:41,368 --> 00:38:42,282
And I'm like "Oh.
733
00:38:43,631 --> 00:38:46,330
Okay." [chuckles]
734
00:38:46,373 --> 00:38:47,287
That's a new thought.
735
00:38:49,420 --> 00:38:50,682
"See, when you go way
over on this side,
736
00:38:50,725 --> 00:38:52,379
there's just not much fluid.
737
00:38:52,423 --> 00:38:53,859
You've had this
happen to you before.
738
00:38:53,902 --> 00:38:55,469
- Yeah.
739
00:38:55,513 --> 00:38:58,342
- [Crystal] I was there
being seen by Dr. Heinrich.
740
00:38:58,385 --> 00:39:02,041
He was eating while I was
you know, laid up on the bed
741
00:39:02,084 --> 00:39:03,912
waiting to be examined.
742
00:39:03,956 --> 00:39:06,959
- And he would be
doing a vaginal exam
743
00:39:07,002 --> 00:39:09,222
and would be smackin' his lips
744
00:39:09,265 --> 00:39:13,052
and that just grossed
the patients out.
745
00:39:13,095 --> 00:39:16,577
- And I'm like, "Is
this the best time
746
00:39:16,621 --> 00:39:19,580
to be eating that sandwich
while you're doing a pap smear?"
747
00:39:22,540 --> 00:39:24,411
- [Corey] He'd be
working without gloves on
748
00:39:24,455 --> 00:39:25,499
or eating popcorn.
749
00:39:25,543 --> 00:39:26,718
It was just filthy.
750
00:39:30,243 --> 00:39:35,030
He had a history of lawsuits
that resulted in settlements
751
00:39:36,205 --> 00:39:39,600
where the allegations
were really serious.
752
00:39:39,644 --> 00:39:42,211
We're talking
basic-level mistakes
753
00:39:42,255 --> 00:39:45,519
that resulted in permanently
deformed children
754
00:39:45,563 --> 00:39:48,043
or permanently deformed women.
755
00:39:48,087 --> 00:39:52,178
[soft intriguing music]
756
00:39:52,221 --> 00:39:54,398
- [Crystal] I ended up
working at the infirmary.
757
00:39:54,441 --> 00:39:57,357
I would have to give
the inmates urine cups
758
00:39:57,401 --> 00:39:58,532
and write their name on it.
759
00:39:59,707 --> 00:40:00,534
While I was working
the infirmary,
760
00:40:00,578 --> 00:40:02,623
Dr. Heinrich made a comment
761
00:40:02,667 --> 00:40:04,756
that some people
shouldn't have kids
762
00:40:04,799 --> 00:40:06,888
because they keep coming
back and forth to prison.
763
00:40:06,932 --> 00:40:09,674
He sees women that come
back and forth to prison
764
00:40:09,717 --> 00:40:12,372
all the time and they
keep coming back pregnant.
765
00:40:14,983 --> 00:40:17,246
- Heinrich will
look at their file.
766
00:40:17,290 --> 00:40:19,684
He would figure out if
this was their first time
767
00:40:19,727 --> 00:40:21,773
or if this was a repeat time
768
00:40:21,816 --> 00:40:25,559
and then he would make a
judgment call to pitch the woman
769
00:40:25,603 --> 00:40:28,388
on getting their tubes tied.
770
00:40:28,432 --> 00:40:32,653
- He would become somewhat
pushy about it and insistent.
771
00:40:34,176 --> 00:40:35,787
- I talked to the
nurses all the time
772
00:40:35,830 --> 00:40:39,747
and I don't know if maybe
they played a factor in
773
00:40:39,791 --> 00:40:44,317
softening up. Dr. Heinrich
not to have me sterilized
774
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,624
because it was my
first time in prison.
775
00:40:48,452 --> 00:40:50,758
- One of the challenges
with this story
776
00:40:50,802 --> 00:40:53,369
and the question of eugenics,
777
00:40:53,413 --> 00:40:57,504
you ultimately have
to get to intent.
778
00:40:57,548 --> 00:41:00,333
You have inmates
making allegations
779
00:41:00,376 --> 00:41:03,597
against people who
have PhDs, right?
780
00:41:03,641 --> 00:41:06,687
And so the question then becomes
781
00:41:06,731 --> 00:41:09,516
how do you know that the
crook is telling the truth?
782
00:41:11,692 --> 00:41:15,653
So I'm calling Dr.
Heinrich and I get a woman.
783
00:41:15,696 --> 00:41:17,698
She says, "He's not gonna talk."
784
00:41:17,742 --> 00:41:20,614
She slammed the phone down,
but I'm getting desperate
785
00:41:22,834 --> 00:41:27,229
and I decide to just get in
my car and drive to his house.
786
00:41:27,273 --> 00:41:29,449
And I just knock on the door.
787
00:41:29,493 --> 00:41:32,408
I'm drenched in sweat.
788
00:41:32,452 --> 00:41:34,323
And he came to the door
789
00:41:34,367 --> 00:41:38,110
and I said, "Hi Dr. Heinrich,
my name's Corey Johnson.
790
00:41:38,153 --> 00:41:40,155
I'm with Center for
Investigative Reporting.
791
00:41:41,548 --> 00:41:42,593
Can I have some water?"
792
00:41:44,682 --> 00:41:48,468
And he stopped and he
said, "Okay, come on in."
793
00:41:48,512 --> 00:41:50,383
And as I get the water,
794
00:41:50,426 --> 00:41:54,866
I pull out my laptop and I show
him a spreadsheet of costs.
795
00:41:56,084 --> 00:41:58,260
And I say to him point blank,
796
00:41:58,304 --> 00:42:02,961
"The rules say
that sterilization
procedures were banned.
797
00:42:04,397 --> 00:42:06,181
And according to
this spreadsheet,
798
00:42:06,225 --> 00:42:10,577
there's well over $100,000
that has been paid
799
00:42:10,621 --> 00:42:13,406
of taxpayer money on a
procedure that's banned."
800
00:42:14,581 --> 00:42:15,669
And then that's when he said,
801
00:42:15,713 --> 00:42:17,932
"Well that's cheaper
than welfare."
802
00:42:17,976 --> 00:42:19,281
[soft dramatic music]
803
00:42:19,325 --> 00:42:20,544
- [Reporter] A bombshell report
804
00:42:20,587 --> 00:42:22,415
from the Center of
Investigative Reporting
805
00:42:22,458 --> 00:42:23,721
shows that doctors-
- Female inmates in California
806
00:42:23,764 --> 00:42:25,418
were illegally sterilized.
807
00:42:25,461 --> 00:42:28,160
- [Reporter] Doctors pressured
them into tubal ligations.
808
00:42:28,203 --> 00:42:31,337
- While they were on an
operating table heavily sedated.
809
00:42:31,380 --> 00:42:33,339
- That's absolutely not
the appropriate time
810
00:42:33,382 --> 00:42:34,645
to be attempting to get consent
811
00:42:34,688 --> 00:42:36,821
for major life-changing surgery.
812
00:42:36,864 --> 00:42:37,778
- [Reporter] Prison
officials claim
813
00:42:37,822 --> 00:42:39,432
it helps save the state money.
814
00:42:39,475 --> 00:42:40,302
- It's like a drop in the bucket
815
00:42:40,346 --> 00:42:41,652
compared to quote,
816
00:42:47,353 --> 00:42:49,529
- And these are by the way
mostly repeat offenders
817
00:42:49,573 --> 00:42:50,748
who were sterilized.
818
00:42:50,791 --> 00:42:52,358
- Where are they getting
pregnant in prison?
819
00:42:52,401 --> 00:42:54,621
Like that's the first
question you have to address?
820
00:42:54,665 --> 00:42:56,623
- Absolutely.
- Disgusting, eww.
821
00:42:56,667 --> 00:42:57,929
- When the story came out,
822
00:42:57,972 --> 00:43:01,628
within hours there were
at least 700 comments.
823
00:43:03,064 --> 00:43:05,850
Within a day, there
was over 2,000.
824
00:43:07,286 --> 00:43:08,766
- [Reporter] Why does the
state need to give its consent
825
00:43:08,809 --> 00:43:11,290
if the women already are?
826
00:43:11,333 --> 00:43:13,858
- [Reporter] We give our
criminals way too many rights
827
00:43:13,901 --> 00:43:15,381
when they go to prison.
828
00:43:15,424 --> 00:43:16,643
- [Reporter] People
will get up in arms
829
00:43:16,687 --> 00:43:17,992
and say, "This is
like eugenics."
830
00:43:18,036 --> 00:43:19,733
- [Reporter] If they
can stay out of jail
831
00:43:19,777 --> 00:43:23,084
and raise their kids without
our assistance, why reproduce?
832
00:43:23,128 --> 00:43:24,433
- [Reporter] Can you explain
833
00:43:24,477 --> 00:43:26,392
why you consider these coercive?
834
00:43:26,435 --> 00:43:27,654
- [Reporter] Since when
do prisoners' rights
835
00:43:27,698 --> 00:43:29,613
trump the rights-
836
00:43:29,656 --> 00:43:31,223
- [Reporter] The
State of California.
837
00:43:31,266 --> 00:43:32,441
- [Reporter] Unless you
can step forward and show
838
00:43:32,485 --> 00:43:33,965
that you have the
financial wherewithal
839
00:43:34,008 --> 00:43:35,967
to take care of the child,
I'm gonna predict that you-
840
00:43:39,013 --> 00:43:40,232
- [Corey] It got real ugly.
841
00:43:42,103 --> 00:43:45,367
There were days where I just
would not look at the comments
842
00:43:45,411 --> 00:43:49,154
because I didn't wanna be
messed up in the head all day.
843
00:43:49,197 --> 00:43:53,898
[soft intriguing music]
[reporters chattering]
844
00:43:55,595 --> 00:43:56,378
- [Adam] 'Kay. If everybody
would take a seat,
845
00:43:56,422 --> 00:43:57,597
we're gonna get started.
846
00:44:01,775 --> 00:44:04,517
- The fact that it
is the 21st century
847
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,562
and we have to ask
our state auditor
848
00:44:06,606 --> 00:44:08,652
to see if women in California
849
00:44:08,695 --> 00:44:11,306
are being coercively sterilized
850
00:44:11,350 --> 00:44:14,658
is absolutely unconscionable
and frankly revolting.
851
00:44:16,268 --> 00:44:18,052
- Joyce Hayhoe
representing California
852
00:44:18,096 --> 00:44:20,054
Correctional
Healthcare Services.
853
00:44:20,098 --> 00:44:22,709
First of all, we support
the sonnet request.
854
00:44:22,753 --> 00:44:24,102
We believe-
- Well I certainly as chair
855
00:44:24,145 --> 00:44:26,713
appreciate that you're
here to support the audit.
856
00:44:26,757 --> 00:44:30,761
I think the more important
question is why you didn't know.
857
00:44:30,804 --> 00:44:34,286
The Receiver was put
in place specifically
858
00:44:34,329 --> 00:44:38,203
to come in and protect
the constitutional
rights of inmates.
859
00:44:38,246 --> 00:44:39,726
- Mr. Kelso was not aware
860
00:44:39,770 --> 00:44:41,510
until it was brought
to my attention.
861
00:44:41,554 --> 00:44:43,861
- Receiver himself was not aware
862
00:44:43,904 --> 00:44:46,559
of what was happening
under his watch.
863
00:44:46,602 --> 00:44:47,734
That's your testimony today.
- Yes.
864
00:44:47,778 --> 00:44:49,257
Yes.
- Okay.
865
00:44:49,301 --> 00:44:51,956
- I do believe that the
receiver's office itself
866
00:44:51,999 --> 00:44:54,567
was in fact aware
of that before then.
867
00:44:54,610 --> 00:44:56,569
If you go from
September 10th, 2008
868
00:44:56,612 --> 00:44:58,876
and move forward to 2010,
869
00:44:58,919 --> 00:45:01,574
over 50 people were
illegally sterilized
870
00:45:01,617 --> 00:45:03,358
during labor and
delivery in that period.
871
00:45:03,402 --> 00:45:06,622
- Medical doctors
thought that it was okay
872
00:45:06,666 --> 00:45:09,103
to sterilize women
without their permission?
873
00:45:09,147 --> 00:45:11,018
- No.
874
00:45:11,062 --> 00:45:14,674
Medical doctors thought it
was okay to sterilize women
875
00:45:14,718 --> 00:45:17,285
having been given
informed consent.
876
00:45:17,329 --> 00:45:19,200
And so most of-
877
00:45:19,244 --> 00:45:20,158
- [Adam] Isn't that the same
as without their permission?
878
00:45:20,201 --> 00:45:21,550
I'm confused on-
879
00:45:21,594 --> 00:45:24,771
- Women were signing
consent forms.
880
00:45:24,815 --> 00:45:25,990
- I'd love to see
a copy of that form
881
00:45:26,033 --> 00:45:27,426
to see if I could
even understand it,
882
00:45:27,469 --> 00:45:29,602
let alone a woman
that's under duress.
883
00:45:29,645 --> 00:45:31,125
But this is unbelievable.
884
00:45:31,169 --> 00:45:33,606
- That one should not be
asked in that environment
885
00:45:33,649 --> 00:45:36,740
to give up a fundamental
right to bear children.
886
00:45:36,783 --> 00:45:40,874
I've had displeasure
of a dozen times
887
00:45:40,918 --> 00:45:42,746
going through people's
medical records
888
00:45:42,789 --> 00:45:44,573
and learning that
they were sterilized
889
00:45:44,617 --> 00:45:48,534
during unrelated
medical procedures and
they didn't know it.
890
00:45:48,577 --> 00:45:49,796
The State has admitted
891
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,363
that they have done
these illegal surgeries,
892
00:45:51,406 --> 00:45:53,669
but we don't actually
know who they did them on.
893
00:45:53,713 --> 00:45:57,630
- I'd like to
prioritize this audit
894
00:45:57,673 --> 00:46:00,372
so that the auditor could put
this at the front of the line
895
00:46:00,415 --> 00:46:03,679
and get to it as
quickly as possible.
896
00:46:03,723 --> 00:46:05,420
[soft intriguing music]
897
00:46:05,464 --> 00:46:07,683
'Kay, I would remind
members of the committee,
898
00:46:07,727 --> 00:46:09,511
please come to the committee
so we establish rapport.
899
00:46:09,555 --> 00:46:12,645
- It was incredibly affirming
to hear the legislature
900
00:46:12,688 --> 00:46:14,821
call these abuses outrageous.
901
00:46:14,865 --> 00:46:16,431
We've been working for years
902
00:46:16,475 --> 00:46:18,738
to get the government
to take this seriously.
903
00:46:18,782 --> 00:46:20,566
Finally, the same
legislators are standing up
904
00:46:20,609 --> 00:46:22,829
and doing what needs to be done.
905
00:46:22,873 --> 00:46:25,049
The Department of Corrections
and the receivers claim
906
00:46:25,092 --> 00:46:28,052
usually there was very
little personal knowledge
907
00:46:28,095 --> 00:46:30,837
on the part of present
administrators of
this happening.
908
00:46:30,881 --> 00:46:32,839
- It's my understanding
that many of these
909
00:46:32,883 --> 00:46:35,711
did have some kinda consent
at the outside doctor
910
00:46:35,755 --> 00:46:37,104
because these
procedures are performed
911
00:46:37,148 --> 00:46:39,280
in a community facility,
just so that that's clear.
912
00:46:39,324 --> 00:46:41,065
They're not performed
at the institution.
913
00:46:41,108 --> 00:46:44,938
Doctors statewide felt
for whatever reason
914
00:46:44,982 --> 00:46:47,941
that it was being sanctioned
by the department.
915
00:46:47,985 --> 00:46:51,075
- There may be doctors who
aren't aware of the policy
916
00:46:51,118 --> 00:46:52,772
or the federal law issue.
917
00:46:52,816 --> 00:46:56,123
I can well imagine an outside
physician in good faith
918
00:46:56,167 --> 00:46:59,039
thinking that this is a matter
of reproductive autonomy
919
00:46:59,083 --> 00:47:01,912
and not knowing the conversation
that has been going on
920
00:47:01,955 --> 00:47:05,611
about the inability to give
valid consent in prison.
921
00:47:07,831 --> 00:47:10,616
- For inmates to sign
consent is a really big deal
922
00:47:10,659 --> 00:47:12,574
because they're seen
as a ward of the court
923
00:47:12,618 --> 00:47:15,795
and not really being allowed
to enter into contracts.
924
00:47:15,839 --> 00:47:17,797
You would think there
would've been a red flag
925
00:47:17,841 --> 00:47:20,756
when the billing departments
received those bills.
926
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,063
- When I arrived at the
receivership in 2008,
927
00:47:23,107 --> 00:47:27,024
we did not use standard
medical billing codes.
928
00:47:28,199 --> 00:47:30,331
And so there really
was no easy way for us
929
00:47:30,375 --> 00:47:32,638
to know what we were paying for.
930
00:47:34,118 --> 00:47:36,642
- That seems very
unbelievable to me.
931
00:47:38,035 --> 00:47:39,688
To do a medical procedure,
932
00:47:39,732 --> 00:47:42,909
there's incredible layers of
paperwork that has to happen
933
00:47:42,953 --> 00:47:46,913
that has to be vetted
by a medical committee
at each prison.
934
00:47:46,957 --> 00:47:49,611
[soft intriguing music]
[pen scratching]
935
00:47:51,962 --> 00:47:54,878
So I would suspect that
many high up officials
936
00:47:54,921 --> 00:47:57,402
were in fact aware
of what was going on
937
00:47:57,445 --> 00:47:58,838
and potentially part of it.
938
00:48:01,058 --> 00:48:03,843
- Everything had to
go through committee
939
00:48:03,887 --> 00:48:05,627
and everything had
to be documented
940
00:48:05,671 --> 00:48:07,281
as to why this was necessary.
941
00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:11,633
[soft intriguing music]
942
00:48:11,677 --> 00:48:14,680
- At the point that
Dr. Heinrich was hired,
943
00:48:14,723 --> 00:48:17,422
sterilization procedures
have been going on for years
944
00:48:17,465 --> 00:48:19,293
at multiple prisons.
945
00:48:20,904 --> 00:48:23,515
He strongly believed
that there were women
946
00:48:23,558 --> 00:48:26,561
that were gaming the system
and that needed to be stopped.
947
00:48:27,649 --> 00:48:31,175
- He was communism and costs
948
00:48:31,218 --> 00:48:35,701
and he tried to save the state
and the prison system money.
949
00:48:37,877 --> 00:48:41,185
- That attitude
tracked precisely
950
00:48:41,228 --> 00:48:45,624
to the historical attitude
of the California leaders
951
00:48:45,667 --> 00:48:47,234
of the eugenics movement.
952
00:48:47,278 --> 00:48:51,891
They had always used cost
benefit as the justifier
953
00:48:53,023 --> 00:48:55,416
for why they were doing
what they were doing.
954
00:48:55,460 --> 00:48:59,029
And so in that way, Heinrich
was part of a legacy.
955
00:49:00,117 --> 00:49:03,816
If you just stop and
make him the face of it,
956
00:49:03,859 --> 00:49:05,339
do you really get
at the problem?
957
00:49:06,950 --> 00:49:11,693
[soft serene music]
[birds chirping]
958
00:49:13,695 --> 00:49:15,349
- [Player] Oh!
959
00:49:15,393 --> 00:49:16,046
That's two.
960
00:49:18,744 --> 00:49:20,267
- Thank you, sweetheart.
961
00:49:20,311 --> 00:49:21,834
- Have a good day.
- Have a good day.
962
00:49:21,877 --> 00:49:23,140
You too.
963
00:49:23,183 --> 00:49:27,622
[lively ice cream truck music]
[birds chirping]
964
00:49:42,115 --> 00:49:44,988
This is my space for right now.
965
00:49:45,031 --> 00:49:46,902
Of course I desire
to have my own home.
966
00:49:46,946 --> 00:49:49,253
But my mom's older and you know,
967
00:49:49,296 --> 00:49:52,212
I feel good about bein'
able to be here with her.
968
00:49:52,256 --> 00:49:54,432
I wasn't able to be
here with my dad.
969
00:49:55,911 --> 00:49:57,783
I lost my dad when
I was in prison.
970
00:49:58,914 --> 00:50:00,873
So for God to gimme opportunity
971
00:50:00,916 --> 00:50:02,962
to be with my mom
in her latter years
972
00:50:03,006 --> 00:50:05,051
though we fight
like cats and dogs.
973
00:50:05,095 --> 00:50:07,227
But at the same
time, she tough too.
974
00:50:07,271 --> 00:50:09,882
So she's one of
my best opponents.
975
00:50:12,189 --> 00:50:16,019
My relationship with my
oldest son is very strained.
976
00:50:16,062 --> 00:50:20,545
He remembers some of the
episodes of domestic violence.
977
00:50:22,373 --> 00:50:25,245
I had to back up and give my
son the space that he needs
978
00:50:25,289 --> 00:50:29,510
in order to figure out what
happened to not only him but us.
979
00:50:29,554 --> 00:50:33,210
[Skype ringtone music]
980
00:50:33,253 --> 00:50:33,819
How you doin'?
981
00:50:35,473 --> 00:50:36,909
- [Kelli] What's up with it?
982
00:50:36,952 --> 00:50:38,432
- You all right?
983
00:50:38,476 --> 00:50:40,913
But my youngest son doesn't
remember the violence
984
00:50:40,956 --> 00:50:44,221
and the interaction
with me as a mother.
985
00:50:44,264 --> 00:50:46,179
Listen, I supposed
to come down there.
986
00:50:47,789 --> 00:50:50,140
I'm tryin' to get
Anthony to come with me.
987
00:50:50,183 --> 00:50:53,012
And I think that at times
that he look at the fact
988
00:50:53,056 --> 00:50:56,189
that me and you, we get
along a little bit better
989
00:50:56,233 --> 00:50:57,843
because you just let shit.
990
00:50:57,886 --> 00:50:58,931
If it happened, it happened.
991
00:50:58,974 --> 00:51:00,367
Bygones is bygones, okay?
992
00:51:00,411 --> 00:51:01,368
We passed that.
993
00:51:05,938 --> 00:51:07,113
- [Kelli] Right.
994
00:51:07,157 --> 00:51:10,029
Thank God for this
technology of FaceTime.
995
00:51:10,073 --> 00:51:11,596
All right then,
baby. I love you.
996
00:51:13,163 --> 00:51:16,557
But to me, the FaceTime
is a glass window
997
00:51:16,601 --> 00:51:18,211
like when I was incarcerated.
998
00:51:22,172 --> 00:51:25,349
Instead of me havin'
all these scars
999
00:51:25,392 --> 00:51:26,959
from the things
that happened to me,
1000
00:51:27,002 --> 00:51:31,659
I want like things that
symbolize my victories.
1001
00:51:31,703 --> 00:51:34,445
And so to me, like this
with the three butterflies
1002
00:51:34,488 --> 00:51:37,012
that represent me
and my two sons.
1003
00:51:37,056 --> 00:51:38,884
And soon as I got this tattoo,
1004
00:51:38,927 --> 00:51:40,799
I just start feelin'
liberated, you know.
1005
00:51:42,409 --> 00:51:45,369
It's me taking the
power back on my body
1006
00:51:45,412 --> 00:51:49,764
and putting things there
that represent who I am
1007
00:51:49,808 --> 00:51:52,202
as opposed to what
I've been through.
1008
00:51:52,245 --> 00:51:54,639
[birds chirping]
1009
00:51:56,380 --> 00:51:58,599
- Morning everybody.
1010
00:51:58,643 --> 00:51:59,339
Good morning.
1011
00:51:59,383 --> 00:52:01,211
All right.
1012
00:52:01,254 --> 00:52:04,866
- We made a plan to speak
to different legislators
1013
00:52:04,910 --> 00:52:07,173
that we thought
would be strategic.
1014
00:52:07,217 --> 00:52:09,654
And Senator Jackson was
at the top of my list.
1015
00:52:09,697 --> 00:52:11,221
- Boy, this thing moves
slowly. Doesn't it?
1016
00:52:11,264 --> 00:52:12,874
- She showed up to the hearing
1017
00:52:12,918 --> 00:52:15,573
when she isn't on
that committee.
1018
00:52:15,616 --> 00:52:17,270
That doesn't happen. [chuckles]
1019
00:52:17,314 --> 00:52:18,706
Legislators that
are on committees
1020
00:52:18,750 --> 00:52:20,491
don't show up to their hearings.
1021
00:52:20,534 --> 00:52:22,188
Legislators that
are on committees
1022
00:52:22,232 --> 00:52:25,278
are twiddling their
thumbs and falling asleep.
1023
00:52:25,322 --> 00:52:26,366
- Great. Thanks.
1024
00:52:26,410 --> 00:52:27,019
Okay, bye-bye.
1025
00:52:29,108 --> 00:52:31,458
When I first learned
of what was going on,
1026
00:52:31,502 --> 00:52:34,287
I was absolutely horrified.
1027
00:52:34,331 --> 00:52:37,986
The fact that these women were
being treated like objects
1028
00:52:38,030 --> 00:52:41,947
and as non-human beings,
how could this be happening?
1029
00:52:43,905 --> 00:52:47,735
We had outlawed
sterilization since 1979
1030
00:52:47,779 --> 00:52:50,434
and many of us assumed that
it had ended at that time.
1031
00:52:50,477 --> 00:52:54,481
A blight on our state history
but nonetheless had stopped.
1032
00:52:54,525 --> 00:52:57,092
So this bill was to
make it very, very clear
1033
00:52:57,136 --> 00:53:00,357
that doctors cannot perform
these procedures in prison.
1034
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:01,227
Period.
1035
00:53:05,362 --> 00:53:07,494
- I did not know that actually.
1036
00:53:07,538 --> 00:53:10,018
- If I had known that
that was illegal,
1037
00:53:10,062 --> 00:53:12,151
I would not have obtained
the consent for it.
1038
00:53:13,587 --> 00:53:15,285
[employees chattering]
1039
00:53:15,328 --> 00:53:17,678
[phone ringing]
1040
00:53:17,722 --> 00:53:19,463
- I'm typing up a survey
1041
00:53:19,506 --> 00:53:21,769
breaking down each different
component of the bill
1042
00:53:21,813 --> 00:53:24,772
and asking people on the inside
if they agree or disagree
1043
00:53:24,816 --> 00:53:26,513
and then there's room
for people to write more
1044
00:53:26,557 --> 00:53:28,646
about what it is that they feel.
1045
00:53:28,689 --> 00:53:30,213
"Keep up the great work,"
1046
00:53:30,256 --> 00:53:32,563
or, "This is why I disagree
with a particular part."
1047
00:53:32,606 --> 00:53:35,740
They just have room to
explain that if they want to.
1048
00:53:35,783 --> 00:53:37,742
- [Automated Voice]
Call from an inmate at
1049
00:53:37,785 --> 00:53:40,005
the Central California
Women's Facility.
1050
00:53:40,048 --> 00:53:41,311
- [Inmate] Hey, how are you?
1051
00:53:41,354 --> 00:53:42,616
- Hello.
- Good, how are you doin'?
1052
00:53:42,660 --> 00:53:44,227
- [Courtney] Justice Now
is the only organization
1053
00:53:44,270 --> 00:53:45,967
that we know of that has people
1054
00:53:46,011 --> 00:53:48,448
who are currently
imprisoned on the board.
1055
00:53:48,492 --> 00:53:51,756
- Do you feel like folks are
feeling good about the bill
1056
00:53:51,799 --> 00:53:54,715
or they're having some
significant concerns?
1057
00:54:11,428 --> 00:54:12,603
- [Cynthia] And how
has that been going?
1058
00:54:19,349 --> 00:54:20,219
- Yeah.
1059
00:54:27,661 --> 00:54:29,881
- We're going to be
bringing to the legislature
1060
00:54:29,924 --> 00:54:33,580
actual words and experiences
from people inside.
1061
00:54:33,624 --> 00:54:38,368
And so that information that
you're gathering is so crucial.
1062
00:54:38,411 --> 00:54:40,326
- Yeah. Thank you so much.
1063
00:54:40,370 --> 00:54:42,067
[gentle music]
1064
00:54:46,289 --> 00:54:48,682
- [Inmate] I was naive. I
really didn't know what to do.
1065
00:54:48,726 --> 00:54:50,075
I just went along
with their doctor
1066
00:54:50,118 --> 00:54:51,642
'cause I figured he knew best.
1067
00:54:51,685 --> 00:54:55,341
- [Inmate] I didn't know
that I won't have children.
1068
00:54:55,385 --> 00:54:57,909
- [Inmate] I've been told,
"Well you're pre-menopausal.
1069
00:54:57,952 --> 00:55:00,564
You're past breeding
age," like I was a cow.
1070
00:55:00,607 --> 00:55:02,348
- [Inmate] I would've
loved to have a child.
1071
00:55:02,392 --> 00:55:03,697
- [Inmate] I've seen
it happenin' more so
1072
00:55:03,741 --> 00:55:05,743
with Hispanic, African American.
1073
00:55:05,786 --> 00:55:06,700
You don't hear too
much of it happenin'
1074
00:55:06,744 --> 00:55:09,050
in the Caucasian descent at all.
1075
00:55:09,094 --> 00:55:10,704
- [Inmate] We're
women in prison.
1076
00:55:10,748 --> 00:55:13,664
Who cares if they mess up
our reproductive system?
1077
00:55:13,707 --> 00:55:15,013
We're prisoners.
1078
00:55:15,056 --> 00:55:16,536
We shouldn't be able
to reproduce anyway.
1079
00:55:21,933 --> 00:55:24,152
- There's certain things
that I picked up in prison
1080
00:55:24,196 --> 00:55:27,112
that I believe were
positive habits.
1081
00:55:28,592 --> 00:55:31,334
This is a habit that
I got out of prison
1082
00:55:31,377 --> 00:55:34,902
is after we use the
sink, we spray it down.
1083
00:55:34,946 --> 00:55:36,948
Wish there's more
people do that.
1084
00:55:36,991 --> 00:55:38,776
But you know, when
you in prison,
1085
00:55:40,778 --> 00:55:42,519
you develop this germaphobe.
1086
00:55:44,390 --> 00:55:46,523
You got eight girls
using the same sink.
1087
00:55:49,743 --> 00:55:52,616
I got one week left for school.
1088
00:55:54,705 --> 00:55:56,271
It has been the toughest month
1089
00:55:56,315 --> 00:56:00,275
and I'm only at undergrad.
1090
00:56:00,319 --> 00:56:02,930
Just imagine how it's gon' be me
1091
00:56:02,974 --> 00:56:06,369
trying to go after my masters.
1092
00:56:11,199 --> 00:56:12,462
- I think-
1093
00:56:20,774 --> 00:56:22,167
- I'm hoping, is it?
1094
00:56:22,210 --> 00:56:23,429
Can I hope?
1095
00:56:23,473 --> 00:56:24,169
- You certainly can.
- Okay.
1096
00:56:24,212 --> 00:56:26,606
[group laughing]
1097
00:56:26,650 --> 00:56:29,392
I'm hoping to be
completed at least
1098
00:56:30,871 --> 00:56:32,656
a semester coming
out of incarceration.
1099
00:56:32,699 --> 00:56:33,918
I have less than a year left.
1100
00:56:36,964 --> 00:56:37,487
- Oh wait-
1101
00:56:38,575 --> 00:56:39,619
Social studies.
1102
00:56:48,106 --> 00:56:50,108
- I really would like to
work with battered women
1103
00:56:51,588 --> 00:56:53,894
and troubled young teen girls.
1104
00:56:55,548 --> 00:56:58,377
[smooth rhythmic music]
1105
00:56:58,421 --> 00:57:00,553
- Welcome back to The Dialogue.
1106
00:57:00,597 --> 00:57:04,035
We are talking about the
effects of trauma, abuse
1107
00:57:04,078 --> 00:57:06,037
and domestic violence
on the Black community.
1108
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,256
We're starting with
Ms. Kelli Dillon.
1109
00:57:08,300 --> 00:57:10,694
She is a survivor
of domestic violence
1110
00:57:10,737 --> 00:57:13,479
and an advocate for
prevention and intervention.
1111
00:57:13,523 --> 00:57:17,483
- Most of the people see
victims as very fragile, docile.
1112
00:57:17,527 --> 00:57:19,746
- Helpless.
- Helpless.
1113
00:57:19,790 --> 00:57:21,400
- White.
1114
00:57:21,444 --> 00:57:23,620
- We are seen as aggressive.
1115
00:57:23,663 --> 00:57:27,014
- When a police officer
approaches a female
1116
00:57:27,058 --> 00:57:29,103
African American or Latina,
1117
00:57:29,147 --> 00:57:32,585
they automatically ask them,
"Are you gang affiliated?"
1118
00:57:32,629 --> 00:57:35,806
92% of all the women
that are in prison
1119
00:57:35,849 --> 00:57:38,199
are in prison because
of domestic violence.
1120
00:57:39,374 --> 00:57:40,941
- I have already been
sexually assaulted.
1121
00:57:40,985 --> 00:57:43,466
I had already been held hostage
in the house for three days.
1122
00:57:43,509 --> 00:57:44,684
When I call, the police may say,
1123
00:57:44,728 --> 00:57:46,469
"You don't look like a victim."
1124
00:57:46,512 --> 00:57:48,514
So I had lost hope in the people
1125
00:57:48,558 --> 00:57:50,821
that were supposed to be
there to protect and serve me.
1126
00:57:50,864 --> 00:57:52,475
At that point, I had had it.
1127
00:57:52,518 --> 00:57:55,216
Either I was gonna get out
by foot or in a body bag.
1128
00:57:55,260 --> 00:57:56,174
I just wanted out.
1129
00:58:02,876 --> 00:58:06,880
- We've gotten over 400
responses on this survey so far
1130
00:58:06,924 --> 00:58:08,621
and there are more
coming in every day.
1131
00:58:08,665 --> 00:58:10,928
And that's pretty significant
when you consider that
1132
00:58:10,971 --> 00:58:14,540
there are approximately
3,000 people inside CCWF.
1133
00:58:14,584 --> 00:58:17,587
[soft intriguing music]
1134
00:58:17,630 --> 00:58:19,502
"I did not know that
I had another choice.
1135
00:58:22,374 --> 00:58:23,854
I was not given follow-up care."
1136
00:58:25,812 --> 00:58:29,294
It's you know, just a line of
agree, agree, agree, agree.
1137
00:58:30,991 --> 00:58:33,298
People came out of the
woodwork through that survey.
1138
00:58:35,169 --> 00:58:37,781
It goes deeper than even we
who've been working on this
1139
00:58:37,824 --> 00:58:38,651
for a decade now.
1140
00:58:41,567 --> 00:58:44,265
- [Chair] If you could go ahead
and present SP-1135 please.
1141
00:58:47,617 --> 00:58:49,140
- My name is Kelly Densmore
1142
00:58:49,183 --> 00:58:51,925
and I am reading a statement
from somebody inside.
1143
00:58:51,969 --> 00:58:53,579
"At Valley State
Prison for Women,
1144
00:58:53,623 --> 00:58:56,974
my gynecologist tried to get
me to have a hysterectomy."
1145
00:58:57,017 --> 00:58:59,193
- [Inmate] You take a
big risk by speaking out
1146
00:58:59,237 --> 00:59:01,979
on the leases that happen
to you behind bars.
1147
00:59:02,022 --> 00:59:03,284
- "In prison, you worry about
1148
00:59:03,328 --> 00:59:04,808
filing a complaint
against a doctor
1149
00:59:04,851 --> 00:59:06,679
because the threat of
retaliation is always there."
1150
00:59:06,723 --> 00:59:11,118
- [Inmate] But I can't say
as a woman and not speak out.
1151
00:59:11,162 --> 00:59:13,904
- "The United Nations
convention on human rights
1152
00:59:13,947 --> 00:59:15,601
talks about the
right to family."
1153
00:59:15,645 --> 00:59:17,603
- [Inmate] I understand
that we're where we're at,
1154
00:59:17,647 --> 00:59:19,170
but I'm still a human being.
1155
00:59:19,213 --> 00:59:20,824
- "We are not animals."
- They don't care about us.
1156
00:59:20,867 --> 00:59:21,955
- [Inmate] There's no
accountability here.
1157
00:59:21,999 --> 00:59:22,826
[inmates chattering]
1158
00:59:22,869 --> 00:59:24,784
- [Inmate] This is not okay.
1159
00:59:24,828 --> 00:59:27,134
- "Please pass this bill as
a step in the right direction
1160
00:59:27,178 --> 00:59:29,006
towards universal human rights,
1161
00:59:29,049 --> 00:59:31,530
not just human rights for
people outside of prison."
1162
00:59:34,098 --> 00:59:35,795
- I was the attorney
who actually reviewed
1163
00:59:35,839 --> 00:59:37,492
Kelli Dillon's medical records
1164
00:59:37,536 --> 00:59:40,408
and had the displeasure of
having to communicate to her
1165
00:59:40,452 --> 00:59:41,758
that she had been sterilized
1166
00:59:41,801 --> 00:59:43,673
without her
knowledge or consent.
1167
00:59:43,716 --> 00:59:47,590
She was one of 10 women in
the California prison system
1168
00:59:47,633 --> 00:59:49,983
that I've had that
same conversation with,
1169
00:59:50,027 --> 00:59:51,768
all of whom were women of color,
1170
00:59:51,811 --> 00:59:53,683
who were darker
skinned women of color
1171
00:59:53,726 --> 00:59:56,207
and/or transgender people.
1172
00:59:56,250 --> 00:59:57,948
I'm incredibly heartfelt
1173
00:59:57,991 --> 00:59:59,645
that this is now
being taken seriously
1174
00:59:59,689 --> 01:00:01,212
and I strongly
support this bill.
1175
01:00:01,255 --> 01:00:02,517
Thank you.
1176
01:00:02,561 --> 01:00:05,172
- Are there speakers in
opposition to the bill?
1177
01:00:05,216 --> 01:00:08,045
- We represent 5,500
obstetricians and gynecologists
1178
01:00:08,088 --> 01:00:09,524
here in California.
1179
01:00:09,568 --> 01:00:11,091
We oppose the bill
1180
01:00:11,135 --> 01:00:13,398
because by completely
banning sterilization,
1181
01:00:13,441 --> 01:00:16,488
we're taking away a woman's
right to consent to a procedure.
1182
01:00:16,531 --> 01:00:18,882
I've had patients with
complex heart conditions.
1183
01:00:18,925 --> 01:00:21,449
If they were undergoing
a ceasarean section,
1184
01:00:21,493 --> 01:00:23,800
I would recommend for
tubal sterilization,
1185
01:00:23,843 --> 01:00:28,195
given the risks of any
subsequent pregnancy
to their health.
1186
01:00:28,239 --> 01:00:29,806
For every
sterilization procedure
1187
01:00:29,849 --> 01:00:32,199
in which I have personally
participated in,
1188
01:00:32,243 --> 01:00:34,637
the patient is asked
to not once, not twice
1189
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,117
but dozens of times
by multiple providers
1190
01:00:37,161 --> 01:00:38,771
whether or not she
would like to proceed
1191
01:00:38,815 --> 01:00:40,033
with the sterilization.
1192
01:00:41,774 --> 01:00:43,646
- [Cynthia] We were
shocked that our opposition
1193
01:00:43,689 --> 01:00:45,256
came from the American College
1194
01:00:45,299 --> 01:00:47,693
of Obstetricians
and Gynecologists.
1195
01:00:47,737 --> 01:00:49,173
Very few of their members,
1196
01:00:49,216 --> 01:00:51,610
let alone their leadership
work in prisons.
1197
01:00:51,654 --> 01:00:53,568
- The priority of ACOG
1198
01:00:53,612 --> 01:00:56,049
is the health and
wellbeing of our patients
1199
01:00:56,093 --> 01:00:57,877
and we're hopeful that
we can find a process
1200
01:00:57,921 --> 01:01:01,620
through which these women will
have access to sterilization.
1201
01:01:01,664 --> 01:01:03,100
- Their testimony
1202
01:01:03,143 --> 01:01:05,885
created a tremendous
obstacle for this bill.
1203
01:01:05,929 --> 01:01:08,975
They want people to make
reproductive choices,
1204
01:01:09,019 --> 01:01:11,108
but we don't know what
goes on in prison.
1205
01:01:11,151 --> 01:01:13,676
The prison is a black hole.
1206
01:01:13,719 --> 01:01:14,894
- Inside a prison setting
1207
01:01:14,938 --> 01:01:16,853
to ask somebody to make
a decision like that
1208
01:01:16,896 --> 01:01:19,029
is not a really good ideal.
1209
01:01:19,072 --> 01:01:21,335
People have total
control over you.
1210
01:01:21,379 --> 01:01:23,337
If you don't follow the rules
1211
01:01:23,381 --> 01:01:25,775
or anybody simply says that
you didn't follow the rule,
1212
01:01:25,818 --> 01:01:28,516
you may have time added to the
time you're already serving.
1213
01:01:30,344 --> 01:01:33,696
- We needed to make our case
that indeed these procedures
1214
01:01:33,739 --> 01:01:35,523
were being done without consent.
1215
01:01:38,178 --> 01:01:40,050
- [Cynthia] You know, we've
been having a really hard time
1216
01:01:40,093 --> 01:01:43,488
identifying who the people were
1217
01:01:43,531 --> 01:01:46,143
who were sterilized while
they were giving birth, right?
1218
01:01:47,535 --> 01:01:48,885
As opposed to folks like you
1219
01:01:48,928 --> 01:01:51,757
who were sterilized
during other operations.
1220
01:01:51,801 --> 01:01:52,932
And that's one of the reasons
1221
01:01:52,976 --> 01:01:56,327
why it would be so
key to feature you.
1222
01:01:56,370 --> 01:01:57,720
I think it's really
our best hope
1223
01:01:57,763 --> 01:01:59,765
of stopping the sterilizations
1224
01:01:59,809 --> 01:02:02,637
and we could practice what
your testimony's gonna be.
1225
01:02:02,681 --> 01:02:04,335
- Do I have to go in
front of like a jury
1226
01:02:04,378 --> 01:02:05,597
or somethin' like that?
1227
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:07,033
Like what do you mean testify?
1228
01:02:07,077 --> 01:02:09,557
- [Cynthia] When a
legislator creates a bill,
1229
01:02:09,601 --> 01:02:12,212
it has to travel in front
of a bunch of committees
1230
01:02:12,256 --> 01:02:16,129
before it goes before the
whole Senate to vote and then-
1231
01:02:16,173 --> 01:02:19,350
- I have a obligation
to back Cynthia.
1232
01:02:19,393 --> 01:02:22,745
Because if it was not for her,
I would not have found out
1233
01:02:22,788 --> 01:02:25,443
everything that
had happened to me.
1234
01:02:25,486 --> 01:02:30,013
But I couldn't go through like
another interview, testimony,
1235
01:02:30,056 --> 01:02:34,017
hearing or anything
because once I'm done,
1236
01:02:34,060 --> 01:02:36,671
you know, I leave and I go
home and everybody go home.
1237
01:02:36,715 --> 01:02:39,587
But I'm left now with
having regurgitated
1238
01:02:39,631 --> 01:02:41,938
all of those emotions
and feelings.
1239
01:02:41,981 --> 01:02:44,636
Now they're here,
they're here and here
1240
01:02:44,679 --> 01:02:47,204
and then no one's there
to help me process it.
1241
01:02:49,423 --> 01:02:52,992
Yes, I have the
power to change lives
1242
01:02:53,036 --> 01:02:54,907
with the awareness
would happen to me,
1243
01:02:54,951 --> 01:02:57,649
but it's still my story
and I still own it.
1244
01:02:59,259 --> 01:03:01,696
I still have the say so
of who I wanna tell it to
1245
01:03:01,740 --> 01:03:03,394
and why I wanna tell it.
1246
01:03:03,437 --> 01:03:04,917
It belongs to me.
1247
01:03:10,096 --> 01:03:12,707
[clock ticking]
1248
01:03:18,844 --> 01:03:21,499
- The bill isn't moving forward
1249
01:03:21,542 --> 01:03:24,458
and it's just
exhausting everyone.
1250
01:03:24,502 --> 01:03:25,459
It's not just me.
1251
01:03:25,503 --> 01:03:27,592
It's the whole organization.
1252
01:03:27,635 --> 01:03:31,074
And I think on an organizational
leadership perspective,
1253
01:03:31,117 --> 01:03:33,641
it's like how long
can I continue not
just to push myself?
1254
01:03:33,685 --> 01:03:35,818
But how long can I continue
to push everyone else?
1255
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:45,610
What ranking are you
on that game now?
1256
01:03:46,698 --> 01:03:48,178
- Aren't you like 30?
1257
01:03:48,221 --> 01:03:49,788
- [Lilah] 29.
1258
01:03:49,832 --> 01:03:51,007
- [Cynthia] 29. Now how may
people playing that online game?
1259
01:03:51,050 --> 01:03:53,270
- I can check what
place mine is now
1260
01:03:53,313 --> 01:03:55,272
'cause it won't change.
- Hundreds of thousands.
1261
01:03:55,315 --> 01:03:56,273
- [Cynthia] Hundreds
of thousands?
1262
01:03:56,316 --> 01:03:57,883
- At least.
1263
01:03:57,927 --> 01:04:00,494
- My kids were
telling their friends,
1264
01:04:00,538 --> 01:04:01,887
"Oh yeah, that's my mom.
1265
01:04:01,931 --> 01:04:04,194
The champion for everybody else.
1266
01:04:04,237 --> 01:04:06,761
Your always promoting
leadership with people inside
1267
01:04:06,805 --> 01:04:08,894
when my friends and I are
dealing with all this crap
1268
01:04:08,938 --> 01:04:10,809
at school and you're
not helping us."
1269
01:04:10,853 --> 01:04:12,637
And I was like, "Oh my
gosh, you're right."
1270
01:04:14,465 --> 01:04:17,642
I spend all my resources and
basically all my capacities
1271
01:04:17,685 --> 01:04:18,773
in building up other people
1272
01:04:18,817 --> 01:04:20,558
that I was neglecting
my children.
1273
01:04:24,823 --> 01:04:26,129
If this goes nowhere
1274
01:04:26,172 --> 01:04:28,305
and I've lost all that
time with my kids, I-
1275
01:04:31,612 --> 01:04:33,223
Yeah, that would
just be a shame.
1276
01:04:51,197 --> 01:04:54,287
- [Attorney] What was
your thought process
1277
01:04:54,331 --> 01:04:56,246
as to whether or not you
wanted to have more children
1278
01:04:56,289 --> 01:04:57,812
when you got out?
1279
01:04:57,856 --> 01:04:59,945
- I had a hope and
a possibility that
1280
01:04:59,989 --> 01:05:03,035
I might find a man that
would love me and treat me,
1281
01:05:04,558 --> 01:05:06,473
who would love me and that
1282
01:05:07,910 --> 01:05:09,650
I might be able to
like have a family
1283
01:05:13,872 --> 01:05:15,004
or a chance to be a mother.
1284
01:05:30,454 --> 01:05:33,196
[group chattering]
1285
01:05:33,239 --> 01:05:34,023
- Hi.
1286
01:05:34,066 --> 01:05:35,154
Good to see you.
1287
01:05:35,198 --> 01:05:37,374
- How you been?
- Good, how are you?
1288
01:05:37,417 --> 01:05:39,332
- Oh, I love your haircut.
- Thank you.
1289
01:05:39,376 --> 01:05:42,031
Hi Tammy, nice to meet you.
1290
01:05:42,074 --> 01:05:42,901
We ready today?
1291
01:05:44,424 --> 01:05:46,557
All right. [exhales]
1292
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:48,994
Hard to cram in.
- I know.
1293
01:05:49,038 --> 01:05:51,518
- [Kelli] And that's why I
was like something so tragic
1294
01:05:51,562 --> 01:05:53,868
in two, three minutes.
1295
01:05:53,912 --> 01:05:55,392
- [Misty] Right.
1296
01:05:55,435 --> 01:05:57,220
- Like how do I sum up?
1297
01:05:58,656 --> 01:06:01,876
I mean how do we
sum up what happened
1298
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,053
in two or three
minutes, you know?
1299
01:06:04,096 --> 01:06:05,837
- Maybe you should
start it out like that.
1300
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:07,230
"How do I sum up
what they did to me
1301
01:06:07,273 --> 01:06:08,709
in two or three minutes?"
1302
01:06:10,102 --> 01:06:11,277
- We're testifying
1303
01:06:11,321 --> 01:06:12,713
in front of the Assembly
Health Committee.
1304
01:06:12,757 --> 01:06:13,932
And if it passes that committee,
1305
01:06:13,976 --> 01:06:15,978
then it will go to
the assembly floor.
1306
01:06:16,021 --> 01:06:17,631
And if it passes that,
1307
01:06:17,675 --> 01:06:20,678
then it will be going to the
governor's desk after that.
1308
01:06:20,721 --> 01:06:22,375
So we're keeping
our fingers crossed
1309
01:06:22,419 --> 01:06:24,029
that he will see how
important this is
1310
01:06:24,073 --> 01:06:25,422
and sign the bill into law.
1311
01:06:29,948 --> 01:06:33,038
- Now is more so
about making it okay
1312
01:06:33,082 --> 01:06:35,954
to say, "Kelli,
that did happen."
1313
01:06:35,998 --> 01:06:38,435
Acknowledging that
it's a part of me.
1314
01:06:38,478 --> 01:06:39,697
- And then moving
forward with that.
1315
01:06:39,740 --> 01:06:41,046
- And moving forward with it.
1316
01:06:41,090 --> 01:06:42,700
- Yeah.
1317
01:06:42,743 --> 01:06:45,659
- It was one thing to
fight about what happened,
1318
01:06:45,703 --> 01:06:48,140
but then it's another thing
to settle with the fact
1319
01:06:48,184 --> 01:06:52,797
that this is what happened
and this is now who you are
1320
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,060
for the rest of
your life, period.
1321
01:06:56,714 --> 01:06:59,847
Every time I've
dated, and I'm happy.
1322
01:06:59,891 --> 01:07:01,806
I'm ecstatic about
the relationship.
1323
01:07:01,849 --> 01:07:03,329
I'm falling in love.
1324
01:07:03,373 --> 01:07:06,550
And then all of a sudden
it comes crashing down
1325
01:07:06,593 --> 01:07:09,683
when they say, "I would love
to have a kid with you."
1326
01:07:11,816 --> 01:07:15,559
And when they say that,
then I really feel unworthy.
1327
01:07:16,603 --> 01:07:17,691
I feel unwhole.
1328
01:07:19,563 --> 01:07:22,392
You know, I feel ashamed.
1329
01:07:24,437 --> 01:07:25,612
And so there's a part of me
1330
01:07:25,656 --> 01:07:27,484
that's tired of
feeling that way too.
1331
01:07:27,527 --> 01:07:30,661
[tense music]
1332
01:07:53,858 --> 01:07:56,774
- I have with me here
today Kelli Dillon.
1333
01:07:56,817 --> 01:07:59,168
She is a domestic
violence counselor,
1334
01:07:59,211 --> 01:08:01,474
a gang interventionist.
1335
01:08:01,518 --> 01:08:04,434
She has dedicated her
life to ending violence
1336
01:08:04,477 --> 01:08:06,175
against women in her community
1337
01:08:06,218 --> 01:08:09,830
and also experienced
sterilization abuse
1338
01:08:09,874 --> 01:08:12,833
while imprisoned
here in California
1339
01:08:12,877 --> 01:08:15,140
and is here today
to share her story.
1340
01:08:16,707 --> 01:08:20,232
- I am a survivor
of non-consensual,
unlawful sterilization
1341
01:08:20,276 --> 01:08:23,714
that was performed on me
at the age of 24 in 2001
1342
01:08:23,757 --> 01:08:27,109
while I was a inmate in Central
California Women's Facility.
1343
01:08:28,501 --> 01:08:31,852
I'm here to testify that what
this bill represents is real
1344
01:08:31,896 --> 01:08:33,419
for the women that
are incarcerated
1345
01:08:33,463 --> 01:08:34,855
and this thing has happened to.
1346
01:08:36,074 --> 01:08:38,903
I wanted a second chance at life
1347
01:08:38,946 --> 01:08:40,861
and I wanted a second
chance at being a mother.
1348
01:08:43,212 --> 01:08:44,691
I trusted.
1349
01:08:44,735 --> 01:08:47,738
[Kelli sobbing]
[gentle music]
1350
01:08:49,261 --> 01:08:53,526
I trusted the surgeon to
respect and to acknowledge
1351
01:08:55,311 --> 01:08:57,704
that I still had a future
and that I wanted one.
1352
01:09:00,229 --> 01:09:02,666
I feel like I've been
robbed of the fullness
1353
01:09:02,709 --> 01:09:04,320
that could have been given to me
1354
01:09:04,363 --> 01:09:06,539
had this not happened to me.
1355
01:09:06,583 --> 01:09:09,281
Did this happen to me because
I was African-American?
1356
01:09:09,325 --> 01:09:11,588
Did it happen to me
because I was a woman?
1357
01:09:11,631 --> 01:09:13,503
Did it happen to me
because I was an inmate?
1358
01:09:13,546 --> 01:09:15,679
Or did it happen to me
because I was all three?
1359
01:09:18,725 --> 01:09:21,380
As I'm sitting here
listening to myself,
1360
01:09:21,424 --> 01:09:25,341
I'm saying to myself like
damn, this is a sad-ass story.
1361
01:09:25,384 --> 01:09:27,125
Where the fuck is
my happy ending?
1362
01:09:28,431 --> 01:09:30,868
I deserve a fresh new start.
1363
01:09:32,174 --> 01:09:33,784
I'm ready to fall in love.
1364
01:09:33,827 --> 01:09:36,134
I'm ready to be loved.
1365
01:09:36,178 --> 01:09:38,310
I'm ready to have a home.
1366
01:09:38,354 --> 01:09:40,921
I'm ready to see the world.
1367
01:09:40,965 --> 01:09:43,141
I'm a good person
1368
01:09:43,185 --> 01:09:45,752
that a lot of fucked up
shit has happened to.
1369
01:09:47,145 --> 01:09:48,407
I'm ready.
1370
01:09:48,451 --> 01:09:52,237
I am so, so ready.
1371
01:09:52,281 --> 01:09:53,934
I just want to
finish up by saying
1372
01:09:53,978 --> 01:09:56,241
that this bill will help
to protect other women
1373
01:09:56,285 --> 01:09:59,723
who have the opportunity
to be rehabilitated
1374
01:09:59,766 --> 01:10:02,508
and to actually restore
the quality of their life
1375
01:10:02,552 --> 01:10:04,945
and the gift that
life has to offer
1376
01:10:04,989 --> 01:10:08,340
which is motherhood
and having children.
1377
01:10:08,384 --> 01:10:11,996
As a survivor of non-consensual,
unlawful sterilization,
1378
01:10:12,039 --> 01:10:13,737
I'm asking you to
approve this bill.
1379
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,698
- atherine Williams with the
ACLU of California in support.
1380
01:10:19,743 --> 01:10:21,310
- Emma Hartung of Legal Services
1381
01:10:21,353 --> 01:10:24,313
for Prisoners with
Children in strong support.
1382
01:10:24,356 --> 01:10:26,489
- Rebecca Gonzales, National
Association of Social Workers
1383
01:10:26,532 --> 01:10:27,620
California chapter in support.
1384
01:10:28,752 --> 01:10:30,362
- They all said aye.
1385
01:10:30,406 --> 01:10:31,885
- Yes, so?
[Kelli exhales]
1386
01:10:31,929 --> 01:10:34,671
[people chattering]
1387
01:10:38,327 --> 01:10:40,633
[group chattering]
1388
01:10:40,677 --> 01:10:41,547
We're a team.
1389
01:10:41,591 --> 01:10:44,376
This was an amazing team today.
1390
01:10:44,420 --> 01:10:46,160
[gentle music]
1391
01:10:51,209 --> 01:10:53,167
- [Reporter] Governor Jerry
Brown has signed a bill
1392
01:10:53,211 --> 01:10:57,041
bringing an end to forced
prison sterilization.
1393
01:11:01,654 --> 01:11:03,830
- The bill passed with
bipartisan support.
1394
01:11:04,875 --> 01:11:06,703
It's criminal behavior
now to do this
1395
01:11:06,746 --> 01:11:10,272
and we've let the corrections
system know they're on record.
1396
01:11:10,315 --> 01:11:12,274
- [Cynthia] They cannot
sterilize people in prison
1397
01:11:12,317 --> 01:11:15,451
for the purpose of birth
control ever again.
1398
01:11:15,494 --> 01:11:17,366
- This bill will set a standard
1399
01:11:17,409 --> 01:11:20,934
for the other prisons
throughout United States.
1400
01:11:20,978 --> 01:11:22,588
Because this is not
just happening here
1401
01:11:22,632 --> 01:11:23,937
in the state of California.
1402
01:11:23,981 --> 01:11:25,852
It's actually
happening all over.
1403
01:11:25,896 --> 01:11:27,289
- I've thought from
the very beginning
1404
01:11:27,332 --> 01:11:29,465
that this bill should've
been called the
1405
01:11:29,508 --> 01:11:34,208
Kelli Dillon Anti-coercive
Sterilization Bill, you know.
1406
01:11:34,252 --> 01:11:34,818
I think,
1407
01:11:36,646 --> 01:11:40,650
but for her inspiration and
her courage early, early on,
1408
01:11:40,693 --> 01:11:41,912
Justice Now wouldn't
have even been
1409
01:11:41,955 --> 01:11:43,435
investigating this stuff.
1410
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,394
We would never would've
found out about the abuses,
1411
01:11:45,437 --> 01:11:47,265
let alone would there
have been a bill.
1412
01:11:47,309 --> 01:11:48,788
- This is just the beginning.
1413
01:11:48,832 --> 01:11:50,747
This is just the beginning.
1414
01:11:52,270 --> 01:11:54,011
[group chattering]
1415
01:11:55,491 --> 01:11:56,579
- Look at the fucking shoes!
1416
01:11:56,622 --> 01:11:58,058
[group laughing]
1417
01:11:58,102 --> 01:12:00,713
Look, everybody look
at our founder's shoes!
1418
01:12:02,585 --> 01:12:04,935
- Aren't they fun?
- They are really fun.
1419
01:12:04,978 --> 01:12:07,720
- When people say, "Oh, we
can't change the prison system,"
1420
01:12:07,764 --> 01:12:08,808
yes, we can.
1421
01:12:08,852 --> 01:12:10,462
Because we are.
1422
01:12:10,506 --> 01:12:12,899
We are change. We are
proof that it can happen.
1423
01:12:12,943 --> 01:12:14,553
[group cheering]
1424
01:12:14,597 --> 01:12:17,643
Our mission of Justice Now is
to have formerly incarcerated
1425
01:12:17,687 --> 01:12:19,689
and women that are on the board
1426
01:12:19,732 --> 01:12:21,952
have the chance to
come into Justice Now
1427
01:12:21,995 --> 01:12:24,911
and transition into
bigger leadership roles
1428
01:12:24,955 --> 01:12:26,957
and run Justice Now.
1429
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:28,350
♪ Make up your mind
1430
01:12:28,393 --> 01:12:29,438
♪ What you searching for
1431
01:12:29,481 --> 01:12:30,395
♪ Is it money
1432
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:34,660
♪ Is it something like freedom
1433
01:12:34,704 --> 01:12:38,055
♪ Nothin' against myself
1434
01:12:38,098 --> 01:12:41,972
♪ But I can really see myself
1435
01:12:42,015 --> 01:12:44,148
♪ Come around, come
around, come around ♪
1436
01:12:44,191 --> 01:12:45,889
♪ Now I'm holding it back
1437
01:12:45,932 --> 01:12:48,457
- I was just talking
to my son, right?
1438
01:12:48,500 --> 01:12:50,720
And I was telling him
about the graduation
1439
01:12:50,763 --> 01:12:53,897
because I never got a
chance to do those things.
1440
01:12:53,940 --> 01:12:55,812
The first time I didn't
get a chance to graduate
1441
01:12:55,855 --> 01:12:58,815
because of me being
a teenage mom,
1442
01:12:58,858 --> 01:13:00,382
then I didn't get a
chance to graduate
1443
01:13:00,425 --> 01:13:01,992
from medical assisting school
1444
01:13:02,035 --> 01:13:04,603
because of the domestic
violence and abuse.
1445
01:13:04,647 --> 01:13:06,257
And me coming home from prison,
1446
01:13:06,300 --> 01:13:08,259
like this means
everything to me.
1447
01:13:08,302 --> 01:13:11,436
[smooth rhythmic music]
1448
01:13:23,535 --> 01:13:25,363
- [Emcee] Kelli Dillon.
1449
01:13:25,407 --> 01:13:26,582
♪ Make up your mind
1450
01:13:26,625 --> 01:13:28,453
♪ What you searching for
1451
01:13:28,497 --> 01:13:29,454
♪ Stake your claim
1452
01:13:29,498 --> 01:13:30,760
♪ Is it fame
1453
01:13:30,803 --> 01:13:33,327
♪ Do you see your
name in lights ♪
1454
01:13:33,371 --> 01:13:34,546
♪ Make up your mind
1455
01:13:34,590 --> 01:13:36,243
♪ What you searching for
1456
01:13:36,287 --> 01:13:37,244
♪ Is it money
1457
01:13:37,288 --> 01:13:40,770
♪ Is it somethin' like freedom
1458
01:13:51,389 --> 01:13:53,783
[birds chirping]
1459
01:14:03,009 --> 01:14:05,490
- [Cynthia] The bill
is the culmination
1460
01:14:05,534 --> 01:14:07,492
of my work at Justice Now,
1461
01:14:09,712 --> 01:14:12,105
but there's still so much
that needs to be done.
1462
01:14:16,458 --> 01:14:20,723
I'm frustrated this isn't a
bigger national conversation.
1463
01:14:23,682 --> 01:14:25,684
We can't afford to forget.
1464
01:14:25,728 --> 01:14:28,731
[soft solemn music]
1465
01:14:34,519 --> 01:14:37,391
- The bill was so needed because
1466
01:14:37,435 --> 01:14:39,002
Department of Corrections
had been spitting on
1467
01:14:39,045 --> 01:14:42,005
women's sterilization
problem for years.
1468
01:14:43,223 --> 01:14:45,399
- But now that there's
been a small victory,
1469
01:14:45,443 --> 01:14:47,489
they're blocking advocates
1470
01:14:47,532 --> 01:14:50,317
or anyone who's coming
in from the outside
1471
01:14:50,361 --> 01:14:53,669
from being able to come in
freely to interview inmates.
1472
01:14:55,497 --> 01:14:56,585
- [Cynthia] There
are women today
1473
01:14:56,628 --> 01:14:58,456
that need reproductive care
1474
01:14:58,500 --> 01:15:03,200
but absolutely cannot get it
because of the retaliation.
1475
01:15:05,594 --> 01:15:07,117
- [Inmate] The doctor told me,
1476
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:09,685
"Thanks to your fellow inmates,
I'm not doing nothing."
1477
01:15:11,948 --> 01:15:14,864
- [Corey] When they say that
CDC is the belly of the beast,
1478
01:15:14,907 --> 01:15:16,126
it's literal.
1479
01:15:16,169 --> 01:15:18,128
[soft intriguing music]
1480
01:15:18,171 --> 01:15:19,172
[doors banging]
1481
01:15:20,522 --> 01:15:23,525
- We have yet to get an apology.
1482
01:15:23,568 --> 01:15:25,918
We have yet to be acknowledged.
1483
01:15:28,094 --> 01:15:31,315
We have to crack
this thing wide open.
1484
01:15:31,358 --> 01:15:34,579
CDC has to be made accountable.
1485
01:15:42,239 --> 01:15:45,503
- So yes to me,
that's a good thing.
1486
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:51,291
As to whether I think
it should be illegal?
1487
01:15:51,335 --> 01:15:53,990
[mysterious music]
1488
01:15:55,121 --> 01:15:55,774
Not necessarily.
1489
01:15:57,820 --> 01:16:00,779
Even if it's not
medically necessary,
1490
01:16:02,999 --> 01:16:07,699
it could or would in the
long run save state funds
1491
01:16:08,657 --> 01:16:09,745
like doctor has said.
1492
01:16:13,052 --> 01:16:15,011
So,
1493
01:16:15,054 --> 01:16:17,753
you know, was he wrong
in that estimation?
1494
01:16:17,796 --> 01:16:18,623
Probably not.
1495
01:16:20,625 --> 01:16:21,713
Because
1496
01:16:23,846 --> 01:16:26,631
as I said the ideal
time to do a tubal
1497
01:16:28,502 --> 01:16:30,113
is when you're already in there.
1498
01:16:33,856 --> 01:16:37,424
It just takes a couple more
minutes and a couple more snips.
1499
01:17:24,036 --> 01:17:25,559
- Good morning, Mr.
Chair and members.
1500
01:17:25,603 --> 01:17:29,694
I'm here to proudly
present Assembly Bill 1764
1501
01:17:29,738 --> 01:17:31,870
which will provide
redress to people
1502
01:17:31,914 --> 01:17:34,046
who were involuntarily
sterilized
1503
01:17:34,090 --> 01:17:36,745
under California's
previous eugenics laws
1504
01:17:36,788 --> 01:17:39,269
and female inmates in
California state prisons
1505
01:17:39,312 --> 01:17:42,272
who were sterilized without
proper authorization.
1506
01:17:42,315 --> 01:17:44,491
This bill provides
material acknowledgement
1507
01:17:44,535 --> 01:17:46,537
of this injustice
1508
01:17:46,580 --> 01:17:49,322
by creating the
Forced Sterilization
Compensation Program.
1509
01:17:49,366 --> 01:17:51,803
[uplifting music]
1510
01:17:58,723 --> 01:18:00,986
♪ Ooh
1511
01:18:01,030 --> 01:18:03,554
- Like I always talked about
where's the happy ending?
1512
01:18:03,597 --> 01:18:06,122
Like no, I'm unsatisfied.
1513
01:18:06,165 --> 01:18:07,427
There gotta be a happy ending.
1514
01:18:07,471 --> 01:18:08,341
I watch too much,
1515
01:18:08,385 --> 01:18:10,430
well I live in LA and Hollywood.
1516
01:18:10,474 --> 01:18:12,215
It has to be a
fucking happy ending.
1517
01:18:12,258 --> 01:18:14,521
Like there has to be
happy ending somewhere.
1518
01:18:14,565 --> 01:18:17,350
♪ What's going on
1519
01:18:17,394 --> 01:18:20,353
♪ When I gotta fight for a
right that is rightfully mine ♪
1520
01:18:20,397 --> 01:18:23,182
♪ What's going on
1521
01:18:23,226 --> 01:18:26,229
♪ When the world can decide
if a caged bird flies ♪
1522
01:18:26,272 --> 01:18:28,753
♪ Or ever get a chance to grow
1523
01:18:28,797 --> 01:18:31,800
♪ Too many people
are invisible ♪
1524
01:18:31,843 --> 01:18:33,149
♪ It's a problem
1525
01:18:33,192 --> 01:18:34,933
♪ How can we ignore
what's going on ♪
1526
01:18:34,977 --> 01:18:36,413
♪ I got questions
I need answers ♪
1527
01:18:36,456 --> 01:18:37,762
♪ It's been too long
1528
01:18:37,806 --> 01:18:39,155
♪ Why
1529
01:18:39,198 --> 01:18:40,634
♪ I cry
1530
01:18:40,678 --> 01:18:44,769
♪ Oh why do these tears
keep running dry ♪
1531
01:18:44,813 --> 01:18:48,860
♪ But I just keep fighting
1532
01:18:48,904 --> 01:18:51,602
♪ 'Cause it ain't over
1533
01:18:51,645 --> 01:18:54,605
♪ Till it's over
1534
01:18:54,648 --> 01:18:57,608
♪ It ain't over till it's done
1535
01:18:57,651 --> 01:19:00,437
♪ Till these
shackles are broken ♪
1536
01:19:00,480 --> 01:19:03,875
♪ It ain't over
1537
01:19:03,919 --> 01:19:05,224
♪ 'Cause some
wounds never heal ♪
1538
01:19:05,268 --> 01:19:06,835
♪ Do you see what you done
1539
01:19:06,878 --> 01:19:09,620
♪ See what you done
1540
01:19:09,663 --> 01:19:10,969
♪ 'Cause some
wounds never heal ♪
1541
01:19:11,013 --> 01:19:12,797
♪ Do you see what you done
1542
01:19:12,841 --> 01:19:15,365
♪ See you what you done
1543
01:19:15,408 --> 01:19:16,758
♪ 'Cause some
wounds never heal ♪
1544
01:19:16,801 --> 01:19:18,411
♪ Do you see what you done
1545
01:19:18,455 --> 01:19:20,457
♪ What's going on
1546
01:19:20,500 --> 01:19:23,155
♪ We got strength but no power
1547
01:19:23,199 --> 01:19:26,376
♪ All we ever wanted
was what's ours ♪
1548
01:19:26,419 --> 01:19:31,076
♪ Then one day we wake up
and everything has changed ♪
1549
01:19:31,860 --> 01:19:33,600
♪ Who can I blame
1550
01:19:33,644 --> 01:19:37,082
♪ Who's gonna carry the shame
1551
01:19:37,126 --> 01:19:41,260
♪ After all this pain
I'll never be the same ♪
1552
01:19:41,304 --> 01:19:42,740
♪ Why
1553
01:19:42,784 --> 01:19:44,220
♪ I cry
1554
01:19:44,263 --> 01:19:45,787
♪ Oh why
1555
01:19:45,830 --> 01:19:48,659
♪ But while I still got time
1556
01:19:48,702 --> 01:19:52,489
♪ I'll just keep on fighting
1557
01:19:52,532 --> 01:19:53,664
♪ 'Cause it ain't over
1558
01:19:53,707 --> 01:19:55,405
♪ No, it ain't over
1559
01:19:55,448 --> 01:19:58,451
♪ Till it's over
1560
01:19:58,495 --> 01:20:01,237
♪ It ain't over till it's done
1561
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:04,022
♪ Till these
shackles are broken ♪
1562
01:20:04,066 --> 01:20:06,024
♪ It ain't over
1563
01:20:06,068 --> 01:20:07,504
♪ Ooh
1564
01:20:07,547 --> 01:20:08,679
♪ 'Cause some
wounds never heal ♪
1565
01:20:08,722 --> 01:20:10,637
♪ Do you see what you done
1566
01:20:10,681 --> 01:20:13,031
♪ See what you done
1567
01:20:13,075 --> 01:20:14,467
♪ 'Cause some
wounds never heal ♪
1568
01:20:14,511 --> 01:20:16,469
♪ Can you see what you done
1569
01:20:16,513 --> 01:20:17,644
♪ See what you done
1570
01:20:17,688 --> 01:20:18,863
♪ Oh
1571
01:20:18,907 --> 01:20:20,430
♪ 'Cause some
wounds never heal ♪
1572
01:20:20,473 --> 01:20:21,953
♪ Do you see what you done
1573
01:20:21,997 --> 01:20:23,650
♪ Now we won't lay down
1574
01:20:23,694 --> 01:20:25,000
♪ We're survivors
1575
01:20:25,043 --> 01:20:27,872
♪ All my scars
are my reminders ♪
1576
01:20:27,916 --> 01:20:29,439
♪ We won't lay down
1577
01:20:29,482 --> 01:20:31,006
♪ We're survivors
1578
01:20:31,049 --> 01:20:33,225
♪ All my scars
are my reminders ♪
1579
01:20:33,269 --> 01:20:36,446
♪ 'Cause it ain't over
1580
01:20:36,489 --> 01:20:39,492
♪ 'Cause it ain't over
1581
01:21:10,393 --> 01:21:12,395
[soft soothing music]
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