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DRAMATIC MUSIC
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This city that we are
conducting this interview in
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is without doubt
the epicentre of espionage.
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Without doubt.
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London belonged to me.
I would say so.
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I don't know
any intelligence officer
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who did like London.
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London has been seen
as a focal point
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for lots of foreign spies.
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Spies are drawn to cities
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where there is power
and there is influence.
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Most major cities are spy hubs.
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London certainly has
that reputation,
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has had for many years,
because of the intersection
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between US interests,
European interests, and, of course,
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Russian interest as well.
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Foreign conflicts
sometimes come in to London
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because of its international nature,
because you have dissidents here,
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you have other countries
trying to target defectors
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and people here.
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And so you do have
this enormous array of killing.
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Espionage is an invisible art,
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and usually,
we don't want to be noticed.
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We blend in
and work in the shadows.
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Our job is to steal secrets
and not get caught.
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To a large extent,
assassinations really have no place
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in the work of spies.
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You're trying to get secrets from
people. You want them to be alive.
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You definitely see other countries
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using assassination
and targeted killings
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as a tool,
almost an everyday tool.
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The Russian and Soviet state
has a murky tradition
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of killing people
that it regards as enemies.
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Now, that could be
Ukrainian fascists,
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it could be traitors
within Moscow's own spy services.
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It could be enemies like Trotsky...
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..felled with
an ice pick in the head
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by an agent sent by Stalin.
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And others are more, kind of,
"question mark", you might say.
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If you're a traitor, in their eyes,
there is only one penalty,
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and that's death.
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And it appears
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death by as obvious
and painful a method as possible.
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BIG BEN CHIMES
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NEWSREADER: It really is
like the Cold War.
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Police in full chemical suits
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on the streets of Salisbury
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and a Russian double agent
who worked for MI6
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feared poisoned
and critically ill.
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Sergei Skripal
was a former officer in the GRU,
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which is
the Russian's First Directorate,
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their oldest
military intelligence organisation.
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They are the tough guys.
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They are the intelligence soldiers
within the Russian military.
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They're people
who are trained to go abroad,
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to collect secrets,
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but also, potentially, to carry out
covert military operations overseas.
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So Sergei Skripal joins the GRU.
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He's an undercover
intelligence officer,
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he's posted abroad in embassies.
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In some cases tried to
collect intelligence, effectively.
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And it's while he's in Spain,
at the embassy there,
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that he's approached by someone
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who initially
looks like a businessman,
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asking if he wants to do deals,
do some consultancy.
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But eventually that turns
into a relationship with MI6,
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as he's recruited as an agent
by British intelligence
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to act as a spy in the mid-1990s.
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He was, to the Russians,
a traitor to the Russian nation.
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And Vladimir Putin has stood up
and said, publicly,
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that traitors should be killed.
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It looks like Sergei Skripal
could have betrayed the identities
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of hundreds of undercover
Russian intelligence officers,
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GRU officers,
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serving in Europe
and around the world, to MI6.
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They're not interested
in Skripal at all.
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They never was interested.
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Hence, well, there's enough
traitors in my own agency.
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Of course, he knew a lot
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about the officers
of our military intelligence,
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and I'm sure
he spoiled their careers.
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Then finally, in the noughties,
his luck ran out.
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By this point, Vladimir Putin
was in power as president
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and there was
a kind of chill in the air.
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Skripal
was demonstratively arrested.
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He wasn't just arrested,
he was arrested with TV cameras...
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..dragged out.
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So, Skripal is in prison.
13-year prison sentence.
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No prospect of release.
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And then
something incredible happens.
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In July 2010,
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Skripal was added to the list
of exchangees
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in the spy swap
that was conducted in Vienna,
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where ten Russian illegals
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who had been arrested
in the United States...
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..were released
in return for four Russians.
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And so you get an old-fashioned,
almost Cold War-like spy swap
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at Vienna airport,
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in which Russians
arrested in America
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are swapped for Russians
who'd been spying for the West,
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serving time in Russian prisons.
And one of those is Sergei Skripal.
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He was brought back into the UK
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and then settled into Salisbury
after he got debriefed.
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He was mostly working
in consultant capacity,
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delivering, lecturing,
et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
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Oh, it formally
could be considered as work.
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But he was delivering
no damage to Russia.
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To the Russians, it doesn't matter.
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It does not matter.
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NEWSREEL: As the search continues
tonight, so the questions mount.
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Were these two people
deliberately poisoned?
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If so, by who and why?
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And has the past
of a man disowned by his state
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led to him becoming critically ill?
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The problem was simply
GRU was told to do it,
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they came up with a plan,
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then they sent the plan
for authorisation.
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It was authorised
and they went ahead.
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So the GRU is quite a big,
sprawling outfit,
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and within it, located outside
the GRU's main building,
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in a facility in north-west Moscow,
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is a sort of diversionary group
of war veterans, combat veterans,
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who perform special tasks.
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Such as sabotage, such as murder,
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such as assassination
on behalf of the state.
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I can't exclude even the situation
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when the people
whose career he's spoiled
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decided to make revenge on him
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and went independently there to
London, you see, to kill him.
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You see, it's crazy situation now.
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Two intelligence officers
working for the GRU,
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Petrov and Boshirov,
but that's their cover names,
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had flown in to London
on a direct flight...
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..book into an inconspicuous hotel
in the East End,
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and on Saturday,
travelled by train to Salisbury,
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on what, clearly, we now know
as a reconnaissance exercise.
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Petrov and Boshirov go to Salisbury,
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and they are seen
and captured on CCTV, it turns out,
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wandering round the streets,
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and going towards the vicinity
of Sergei Skripal's house.
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And that their real names
were Chepiga and Mishkin...
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..and we know
that they were basically soldiers
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and they were part of a
super secret diversionary group...
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..based in France,
near the Swiss border,
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who had been behind all sorts
of murders or attempted murders,
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assassinations.
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NEWSREADER: Walking,
apparently without concern,
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it's believed
this fleeting CCTV video
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shows Sergei Skripal
and daughter Yulia
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heading towards a park in Salisbury,
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the poison possibly already
coursing through their bodies.
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The Russians, the Soviets,
always want fearsome control
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over politics and political
expression inside their own country.
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The threat to that is the exile.
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The threat to that of people who
are operating outside their space,
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the answer to that problem
is assassination.
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RADIO NEWSREEL: 12 hours,
Greenwich Mean Time.
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RADIO NEWSREEL: BBC World Service
presents Radio Newsreel.
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RADIO NEWSREEL: BBC World Service
broadcasting worldwide.
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SPEAKS IN BULGARIAN
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Georgi Markov is often described,
I think, as a dissident.
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He's an incredibly brilliant writer
and because of his talent,
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he shot to the top
of Bulgarian literary life.
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It was in the early '70s
that he arrived in the UK.
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Markov is working
for the BBC's overseas service,
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broadcasting anti-Communist
propaganda into Eastern Europe.
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SPEAKS IN BULGARIAN
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MARKOV: I feel in myself
a necessity to rebel
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against any kind of authorities.
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The theme that he spoke on
in these broadcasts
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was the corruption
and the lack of credibility
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and the closed-mindedness
of the regime.
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And the lies that they told,
not just to the people,
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but sort of about themselves.
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We know that
the Bulgarian intelligence services
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wanted Markov dead. They wanted
him dead for a long time.
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He was a prominent critic
of the regime.
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I always had a feeling that
he is looking over his shoulder.
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He told me that
he gets threatening phone calls
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and I saw the copy
of a court decision
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that he is sentenced to death
for being an enemy to the state.
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So on the 7th September 1978,
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it's another working day for Markov
in the BBC World Service.
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He does what he always does.
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He drives his car
a certain way into London,
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then he catches a bus
from Waterloo Bridge.
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Markov did what he did
more or less every day.
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He parked his car
and then he went up the steps,
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and at the top of the steps on
Waterloo Bridge, there's a bus stop.
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Waiting there for the bus,
in the queue,
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and behind him is what he thinks of
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as a normal British businessman,
city type.
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Someone in a raincoat
with an umbrella.
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That person stumbles
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and the umbrella
jabs him in the back of the leg.
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He feels a little prick.
It's like a bee sting.
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And he turns around
and there was a man
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who appeared to have dropped
an umbrella,
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who apologised to him and moved on.
He didn't think anything more of it.
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But as the day went on,
quite quickly,
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he started to feel
extremely ill indeed.
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I met him when he came back
with the bulletin in his hand.
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He was going to the studio,
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grey in the face,
and walking not very...
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I immediately assumed
that he's drunk.
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And when passing,
I noticed that his eyes,
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they were... how shall I put it?
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Not here. He didn't look straight.
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I said something, "Are you going
all right?" Or something.
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And he waved me off.
"Get lost."
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And that's it.
That was the last time I saw him.
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He starts to have
flu-like symptoms, a temperature,
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and then he realises
this is potentially an attack.
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He reports to hospital
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and initially,
the doctors are quite dismissive.
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He was telling them
that he'd been attacked,
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but the only evidence of that
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was this little sort of red pimple
on the back of his leg.
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They think it's just an infection.
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They're treating him
for standard infections,
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but within two days,
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they realise the infection
is overwhelming his body.
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He basically
suffered organ failure...
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..and by 11th September,
he was dead.
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When an autopsy is conducted,
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the doctors eventually find
a tiny metal ball.
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Smaller than you would find
in the tip of a biro.
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When they look at it,
they see there are two holes in it.
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Tiny, tiny holes.
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What they found
was a pellet full of ricin,
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which had been unleashed, somehow,
from this umbrella into his leg.
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Ricin is a biological toxin
which is incredibly virulent,
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very toxic,
and it's made from castor beans.
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That ricin would have killed him,
you know, very, very quickly.
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It is incredibly toxic.
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It's never been definitively proved
who did it.
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The police have looked at this over
the years to try and understand it.
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All the evidence seems to point
to Bulgarian intelligence
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having been behind the operation,
but with the support of the KGB,
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who provided some of that equipment
to carry out the assassination.
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The General Secretary
of the Bulgarian party, Zhivkov,
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appealed to Mr Brezhnev
to help him to liquidate Markov,
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and the only thing
which we could do
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is to provide them
with this umbrella,
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which was specially made, invented.
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No-one had heard of a weaponised
umbrella before this happened.
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The special department
which was in charge
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of creating these types
of technologies for killing
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had, in fact, developed
some kind of umbrella gun
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that was suddenly capable
of firing a pellet of this sort.
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I mean, it is very James Bond-ish,
you know,
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the idea that the QC,
the Q Branch in the Soviet Union,
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is developing these weapons.
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And this has since become
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the archetypal
Cold War assassination.
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It's really hit
the public imagination
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because it's got hitmen,
it's got gadgetry, it's got poison.
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And it also caught
public imagination
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because, not only was it a crazy,
ingenious assassination method,
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it happened
right in the centre of London.
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NEWSREADER 1: This story
of spies and counterespionage
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turned from claim
to counter-claim today.
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A leading toxicologist suggested...
NEWSREADER: Alexander Litvinenko,
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a former lieutenant colonel in the
Russian Federal Security Service,
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or FSB...
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NEWSREADER: Tonight, this former
Russian agent is in hospital.
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His life hangs in the balance.
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I met my husband, Sasha, in 1993,
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just a few years
after Soviet Union collapsed.
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And of course it was mess,
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but it was a lot of hope
for new Russia.
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In 2006, I was the head
of the anti-terrorist branch
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at Scotland Yard.
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I remember very well the first time
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I ever heard the name
Alexander Litvinenko.
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I was sitting in my office
on the 15th floor
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of what was then Scotland Yard.
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One of my colleagues came in
and said that in hospital,
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in north London, was a man who said
that he was a former KGB officer
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and that he had been poisoned
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by some of his former colleagues
in London.
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Alexander Litvinenko
is a fascinating character.
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Essentially, he was a sort of cop.
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He was a detective
who specialised in going after
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organised crime groups in the 1990s.
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And he was a sort of
decent, honest, hardworking officer.
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Every time when he tried
to investigate cases
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linked to organised crime,
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it all came back to
very high-rank officers of FSB
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or people from Russian Parliament.
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And it was always cut.
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It means he was not allowed
to complete this investigation.
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It's something which is beyond
my understanding, you know?
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To care about Litvinenko,
some Lieutenant Colonel.
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It's a very minor person, you know,
to care about.
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I don't think that Mr Putin
even knew about such a little person
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as Mr Litvinenko.
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DRAMATIC MUSIC
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Alexander Litvinenko, he'd
actually confronted Putin himself
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in the late '90s, when Putin
had become the head of the FSB,
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the Russian security service.
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Alexander Litvinenko
had gone to him to say
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that he believed that there was
corruption, assassination,
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dark dealings going on with the FSB.
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TRANSLATOR: I gave him my report
and he looked at the charge,
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but refused to take it. He also
asked for my home phone number.
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I ask him what it was for.
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He said, "I'll call you." A few days
later, an FSB friend laughed at me.
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And he said, "Putin ordered us
to bug your phone."
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Pretty quickly after this,
Litvinenko, he's in prison.
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He's released, he's rearrested,
he's in prison again,
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and it's clear that Putin wants
to get rid of Litvinenko forever.
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TRANSLATOR: I left Russia
because I was in fear for my life
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and afraid for the safety of
my family and my six-year-old son.
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If I go back to Russia,
I won't last long there.
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I won't live long. I was told
that I had betrayed the system.
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And that the Federal Security
Service does not forgive traitors.
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Putin views Litvinenko as a traitor
for having gone to him
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and having turned against
his colleagues in the FSB.
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So from that moment on, really,
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Putin and Litvinenko themselves
are personal enemies.
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They come to have
an intense dislike for each other.
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And when it comes to matters
of life and death,
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when it comes to sensitive
international assassinations,
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operations abroad,
only Putin can decide this.
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NEWSREADER: It was Litvinenko's
investigation into the murder
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of this woman that could have
made him a target this time.
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His friend, the Russian journalist
Anna Politkovskaya,
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was murdered in her apartment block
in October.
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She, too, was a harsh critic
of the Russian president.
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Anna Politkovskaya, Sasha's friend.
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She was, Sasha believed, in the list
of enemies of Russia state.
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My name is Alexander Litvinenko.
I'm former KGB and FSB officer.
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My speech is difficult for me.
Can I use translator?
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Somebody has asked you directly,
"Who is guilty of Anna's death?
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"Who has killed her?"
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ALEXANDER REPLIES IN RUSSIAN
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TRANSLATOR:
And I can directly answer you.
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It is Mr Putin, the president
of the Russian Federation,
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who has killed her.
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When Anna was assassinated,
he was really shocked.
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And all this discussion
about these names
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and this list of assassinated
of, like, one by one.
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And everybody said, "It's not true."
But when it happened,
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Sasha realised it's true.
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Sasha knew he on this list,
but he believed he's a professional
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and good enough
to recognise a danger.
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And one version...
This is not verified.
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But one version of what happened
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is that Putin meets with his
spy chiefs at some point in 2006,
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and turns to them, "I never want to
hear that man's name again. Ever."
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And that's clear.
The order is kill Litvinenko.
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NEWSREADER: If there was any doubt
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Litvinenko
was a target of the Kremlin,
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you need only watch this video of
Russian Special Forces in training.
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Their target -
Alexander Litvinenko.
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CORERA: Andrey Lugovoy
and Dmitry Kovtun
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are both former
Russian security service officers
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who appear to have left the employ
of the Russian security services
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and are involved
in this world of investigations,
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which Alexander Litvinenko
was also involved in.
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Lugovoy was the first person
who need to approach Sasha.
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He was not a friend,
but he was man from this circle.
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And then they started to discuss
to do business together.
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Again, it's all look natural.
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But instead, what they don't realise
is that Lugovoy is still
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effectively working on behalf
of the Russian security service,
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the FSB, who use him
to target Litvinenko.
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Dmitry Kovtun is a very strange,
weird character in this story.
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I mean, he essentially served
in the Soviet military,
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came from a Soviet military family,
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which is where he got to know
Andre Lugovoy.
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I remember Sasha was immediately
unpleasant of Kovtun.
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He even couldn't say exactly
what is his name.
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He said, he's a...
like a mystery man.
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It very quickly became apparent
that Lugovoy and Kovtun
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were two people that we needed
to take a particular interest in.
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Alexander Litvinenko,
1st of November 2006,
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it was a, sort of,
regular day for him.
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I mean, he was living
in Muswell Hill, in north London,
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with his wife, Marina,
and their son Anatoly.
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There was a business meeting planned
with Andrey Lugovoy.
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CCTV tracks him.
You can see these images of him
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walking through central London.
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And he gets to the Millennium Hotel
in Grosvenor Square
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just ahead of a 4pm appointment.
And actually, you look at the CCTV
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and it's rather poignant,
you see him arriving in the lobby,
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making a call,
telling Lugovoy he's there.
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We see Lugovoy and Kovtun
captured on camera,
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including in the hotel itself,
in the Millennium Hotel.
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At about 3.30pm, there's video
of Lugovoy going up the steps,
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turning left
into the gents' toilets,
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one of his hands
is kind of tucked in like this,
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and he's got this kind of
grey, fell visage.
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A few minutes after that,
Dmitry Kovtun does the same thing,
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repeats the journey,
goes into the gents' toilets.
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And it looks like they were
hatching the plot.
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There is an interesting thing which
is the sort of sense that Russia,
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that they are geniuses,
they all play chess,
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they know things, they're wizards.
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And that most certainly applies
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to their attributes
within the secret world.
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But they make mistakes.
Trust me. They do make mistakes.
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When Sasha came to this meeting,
he was asked,
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"Would you like to drink anything?"
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And some alcohol was served
and Sasha said,
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"You know I don't drink alcohol."
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He said,
"OK, but you could drink tea?"
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Tea was already prepared.
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There's a pot of tea, a white
ceramic pot already on the table.
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Lugovoy calls over the waiter,
who brings a fresh cup,
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and suggests to Litvinenko
that he has some tea.
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And when he took sip of this tea,
he was... immediately realised
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something wrong.
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There was something
wrong with the tea,
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something strange about the tea.
And he leaves it.
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He didn't finish this cup.
Maybe few sips.
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Maybe what helps him
to survive for some longer period.
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But after that moment,
couple of sips,
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actually, there's nothing that
could be done to save Litvinenko.
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That evening,
Litvinenko starts to feel ill.
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He's vomiting, he's feeling sick.
He calls his wife Marina for help.
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He couldn't breathe properly.
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And he always asked
to open the window for fresh air.
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But in the second day at home,
he started bleeding.
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Sasha lost weight,
he looked very weak.
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It was very difficult for him
to walk from upstairs to downstairs.
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And he knows,
even though it takes a little while
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for others to kind of realise this,
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he knows that he's been poisoned
and he tells Marina,
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"I think I've been poisoned."
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Eventually,
he is admitted to hospital,
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and eventually moved to UCL,
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where the police come and visit him
and hear his story.
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We dispatched an officer
to interview Alexander Litvinenko
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in hospital. It was most unusual
because we had, in effect,
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what was a living murder victim,
someone who was describing...
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And I think he was pretty clear
in his own mind
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that he might well not
survive this illness.
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But he was able
to give a description
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of what had happened to him.
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For such action requires
the highest level of authorisation
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because anybody who worked
in the KGB knows it.
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The system remains the same.
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These operations
have always been very centralised.
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It was an agenda
in which Putin was brought up.
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Exactly which was everything
must be authorised.
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The message was loud and clear
from Russia.
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"This is what can happen to you
as well if you do what he's done."
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The Russian state is ruthless
in tracking down what it perceives
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to be its traitors, people who were
part of the regime, who worked there
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and who left
and joined the other side.
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The message that it sends back
to members of the Russian services,
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"If you betray,
your end is going to be agonising."
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There have definitely been examples
when the British government
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has talked a lot about
assassination,
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and to some extent,
done planning for assassination.
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I once asked an MI6 chief directly,
do you have a license to kill?
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He said, "No, we don't have
a license to kill."
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And I then asked him, "Did MI6
ever have a license to kill?"
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And there was a little pause before
he gave a more equivocal answer.
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And I think what that tells you
is that in the past,
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MI6 has been involved
in assassination plots.
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NEWSREEL:
Our quarrel is not with Egypt,
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still less with the Arab world.
It is with Colonel Nasser.
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SHUTTER CLICK
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There is some talk
about assassination
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in the Middle East in the 1950s.
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And this is particularly
aimed at the leader of Egypt,
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Gamal Abdel Nasser.
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Instead of meeting us
with friendship,
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Colonel Nasser conducted
a vicious propaganda campaign
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against our country.
He has shown that he is not a man
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who can be trusted
to keep an agreement.
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Nasser is dedicated
to Arab nationalism
476
00:34:04,163 --> 00:34:08,723
and throwing British bases
and British interests
477
00:34:08,723 --> 00:34:11,523
out of the Middle East,
right across the region.
478
00:34:11,523 --> 00:34:13,403
This is what makes Eden see red.
479
00:34:13,403 --> 00:34:17,563
Eden took it very personally
and he wanted Nasser removed.
480
00:34:17,563 --> 00:34:20,443
He wanted him overthrown.
He authorised
481
00:34:20,443 --> 00:34:23,483
a load of different covert
operations to get rid of Nasser.
482
00:34:27,003 --> 00:34:31,163
You have two different
British foreign policies in '56.
483
00:34:31,163 --> 00:34:34,403
You have the one that
you'll read about in the newspapers.
484
00:34:34,403 --> 00:34:37,523
And then you have the second foreign
policy, which is in the shadows.
485
00:34:37,523 --> 00:34:42,323
Which is all the planning of,
"How do we assassinate Nasser?
486
00:34:42,323 --> 00:34:45,603
"When do we do it?
Where do we do it?"
487
00:34:45,603 --> 00:34:49,443
Not only did Anthony Eden
want Nasser dead,
488
00:34:49,443 --> 00:34:52,043
he was also very open about this.
489
00:34:52,043 --> 00:34:56,323
Anthony Nutting, who is the foreign
office permanent secretary,
490
00:34:56,323 --> 00:35:03,003
he is phoned by Eden on an open
line, which is incredibly unusual.
491
00:35:03,003 --> 00:35:06,443
Nutting, now off duty, at the Savoy,
492
00:35:06,443 --> 00:35:10,203
"What's all this about neutralising
Nasser? What's all this?
493
00:35:10,203 --> 00:35:13,763
"I don't want Nasser neutralised.
I want him murdered."
494
00:35:13,763 --> 00:35:16,403
"I want him destroyed.
Don't you understand?"
495
00:35:16,403 --> 00:35:19,123
"I don't want any messing around.
He has to go."
496
00:35:24,763 --> 00:35:29,283
Eden charged MI6 with coming up
with ideas to kill Nasser.
497
00:35:29,283 --> 00:35:32,403
George Kennedy Young,
who was a deputy head of MI6,
498
00:35:32,403 --> 00:35:34,403
was certainly a man who was not shy
499
00:35:34,403 --> 00:35:37,603
of issues like coups
and assassinations.
500
00:35:37,603 --> 00:35:40,923
Eden basically
gives him carte blanche that,
501
00:35:40,923 --> 00:35:43,723
"You go ahead
and do it, organise it,
502
00:35:43,723 --> 00:35:45,723
"and you are reporting directly
to me."
503
00:35:45,723 --> 00:35:49,323
George Young was also quite open
about these plans.
504
00:35:49,323 --> 00:35:53,763
He insisted that Eden had given him
personal instruction
505
00:35:53,763 --> 00:35:55,403
to bump Nasser off.
506
00:35:55,403 --> 00:35:58,083
The Foreign Office
are horrified by this.
507
00:35:58,083 --> 00:36:02,203
Later, the dispute also
becomes known as "the horrors".
508
00:36:02,203 --> 00:36:07,203
But George Young is gung-ho for it
and he starts to organise this.
509
00:36:09,403 --> 00:36:12,483
MI6 has an entire department,
510
00:36:12,483 --> 00:36:16,363
and it's public knowledge
that it's called the Q department.
511
00:36:16,363 --> 00:36:21,763
And they do make
weird, wacky gadgets. That is true.
512
00:36:21,763 --> 00:36:23,363
And they are ingenious.
513
00:36:33,683 --> 00:36:37,403
All intelligence services
have something like a Q branch
514
00:36:37,403 --> 00:36:40,763
because there is
technical intelligence.
515
00:36:40,763 --> 00:36:46,163
You do need these things.
And these branches have indeed
516
00:36:46,163 --> 00:36:49,883
developed well-known
assassination weapons.
517
00:36:52,443 --> 00:36:56,443
Famously, Fleming's character, Q,
the gadget man,
518
00:36:56,443 --> 00:37:00,643
is actually an inspiration
of two characters
519
00:37:00,643 --> 00:37:03,803
who worked for a branch of
military intelligence, MI9.
520
00:37:06,563 --> 00:37:12,243
In the 1950s, Frank Quinn
is the MI6 technical officer.
521
00:37:12,243 --> 00:37:17,243
He's absolutely the equivalent
of Q in James Bond,
522
00:37:17,243 --> 00:37:20,923
and not just designing
assassination weapons,
523
00:37:20,923 --> 00:37:25,563
but also all the covert
paraphernalia of spying.
524
00:37:26,683 --> 00:37:29,963
X-ray document scanner.
525
00:37:29,963 --> 00:37:32,843
A pen. This is a class IV grenade.
526
00:37:32,843 --> 00:37:36,603
Three clicks
arms the four-second fuse.
527
00:37:36,603 --> 00:37:39,403
Another three disarms it.
528
00:37:41,843 --> 00:37:44,403
How long did you say the fuse was?
529
00:37:44,403 --> 00:37:46,443
Oh, grow up, 007.
530
00:37:58,843 --> 00:38:02,483
People in London are playing around
with how you assassinate Nasser.
531
00:38:02,483 --> 00:38:04,563
Do you poison him? Do you shoot him?
532
00:38:04,563 --> 00:38:09,883
Quinn developed the idea
of an exploding Remington razor.
533
00:38:09,883 --> 00:38:14,283
This was packed
with plastic explosive.
534
00:38:14,283 --> 00:38:17,723
Nasser was known to use
this particular razor
535
00:38:17,723 --> 00:38:21,843
and he was known
to take regular shavings.
536
00:38:23,923 --> 00:38:28,923
They developed a packet of
cigarettes which had the capability
537
00:38:28,923 --> 00:38:30,763
of firing a poisoned dart.
538
00:38:30,763 --> 00:38:35,083
And apparently, this poisoned dart
was tested on a poor sheep
539
00:38:35,083 --> 00:38:37,403
down at Porton Down.
And let's just say it worked.
540
00:38:42,643 --> 00:38:46,643
Now, one that Frank Quinn we know
was definitely involved in
541
00:38:46,643 --> 00:38:51,603
was putting poison
in Nasser's favourite chocolates.
542
00:38:51,603 --> 00:38:54,363
He had a particular brand
of chocolates he liked,
543
00:38:54,363 --> 00:38:57,003
and Quinn ordered
various boxes of them.
544
00:38:59,363 --> 00:39:04,283
Poisoning Nasser using chocolates
was very difficult to achieve
545
00:39:04,283 --> 00:39:09,603
because MI6's technicians
in Q branch
546
00:39:09,603 --> 00:39:15,443
had to work out how you can take
the bottom off of a chocolate,
547
00:39:15,443 --> 00:39:19,883
insert poison into it, and then
replace the bottom of the chocolate
548
00:39:19,883 --> 00:39:23,003
without anyone knowing
that it had been tampered with.
549
00:39:23,003 --> 00:39:28,603
Q branch develops, effectively,
the way it's going to be delivered.
550
00:39:28,603 --> 00:39:31,323
This does make it to Cairo
through a diplomatic pouch.
551
00:39:31,323 --> 00:39:33,843
But now it's sitting
in your embassy in Cairo.
552
00:39:33,843 --> 00:39:36,203
You've got to get them to Nasser.
553
00:39:37,323 --> 00:39:41,483
MI6 had a problem with their plans
to assassinate Nasser
554
00:39:41,483 --> 00:39:44,323
in that their officers
were no longer in Egypt,
555
00:39:44,323 --> 00:39:45,883
they'd been kicked out by Nasser.
556
00:39:45,883 --> 00:39:50,963
The British
didn't have access to Nasser.
557
00:39:50,963 --> 00:39:54,083
They couldn't get
the poison dart to Nasser.
558
00:39:54,083 --> 00:39:57,043
They couldn't get
the chocolates to Nasser.
559
00:40:03,523 --> 00:40:06,363
As far as we know,
this was the last time
560
00:40:06,363 --> 00:40:10,203
that a British serving prime
minister attempted an assassination.
561
00:40:11,843 --> 00:40:15,483
Britain is bungling and amateur.
562
00:40:15,483 --> 00:40:19,323
That's one of the reasons
that Nasser lived such a long life.
563
00:40:22,323 --> 00:40:25,763
At one point, they were going to pay
Nasser's doctor the equivalent
564
00:40:25,763 --> 00:40:29,763
of half a million pounds
in today's money to kill Nasser.
565
00:40:29,763 --> 00:40:32,123
And... he took the money and ran.
566
00:40:32,123 --> 00:40:34,803
MUSIC: 'JAMES BOND THEME'
by Monty Norman
567
00:40:37,243 --> 00:40:41,443
A license to kill for MI6,
it doesn't exist.
568
00:40:42,763 --> 00:40:47,203
Assassinations
may have once been authorised
569
00:40:47,203 --> 00:40:49,443
by the British government,
570
00:40:49,443 --> 00:40:52,923
but in modern times,
571
00:40:52,923 --> 00:40:57,403
it's purely the preserve
of spy fiction.
572
00:40:57,403 --> 00:40:59,003
By nature of what you're doing,
573
00:40:59,003 --> 00:41:01,843
you're breaking
that other country's laws.
574
00:41:01,843 --> 00:41:05,123
So whipping out
a so-called license to kill
575
00:41:05,123 --> 00:41:07,323
isn't gonna save your bacon.
576
00:41:08,923 --> 00:41:11,163
The concepts of license to kill
577
00:41:11,163 --> 00:41:14,243
emerge through the exploits
of James Bond,
578
00:41:14,243 --> 00:41:18,403
the most famous of
the fictional intelligence officers.
579
00:41:18,403 --> 00:41:22,643
He goes around the world
shooting people, blowing things up,
580
00:41:22,643 --> 00:41:24,643
sleeping with people,
doing whatever he wants.
581
00:41:25,763 --> 00:41:27,163
What do you say to that?
582
00:41:29,843 --> 00:41:31,803
HE SIGHS
It's a waste of good Scotch.
583
00:41:41,843 --> 00:41:44,603
The idea of a license to kill
comes from the world of James Bond
584
00:41:44,603 --> 00:41:48,003
and doesn't have
any place in reality.
585
00:41:48,003 --> 00:41:50,683
People aren't being bumped off.
It just simply isn't that way.
586
00:41:54,883 --> 00:41:59,323
You don't really want to be carrying
a gun. The old James Bond myth -
587
00:41:59,323 --> 00:42:02,363
trained to kill,
carrying a Walther PPK, you know,
588
00:42:02,363 --> 00:42:05,083
around all the time.
It's just that, it's a myth.
589
00:42:05,083 --> 00:42:09,883
We can't get enough of the stories,
whether they're the real history
590
00:42:09,883 --> 00:42:13,203
from declassified files
or whether they're from the pen
591
00:42:13,203 --> 00:42:17,483
of the likes of John le Carre
or Frederick Forsyth.
592
00:42:21,643 --> 00:42:24,803
This man is supposed to be
a secret agent.
593
00:42:24,803 --> 00:42:27,203
He walks into a room
and they say "Good evening, Mr Bond,
594
00:42:27,203 --> 00:42:30,523
"we have been expecting you."
That's a secret agent?
595
00:42:30,523 --> 00:42:33,723
I mean, the mission's blown.
596
00:42:33,723 --> 00:42:39,643
Assassination is not something that
British ministers would sanction.
597
00:42:40,683 --> 00:42:46,163
And there is no double-0 section
in MI6 that goes around
598
00:42:46,163 --> 00:42:47,843
killing the Queen's enemies.
599
00:43:18,203 --> 00:43:21,643
NEWSREADER: Tuesday afternoon
in Salisbury last week.
600
00:43:22,883 --> 00:43:25,963
The scene could hardly be
any more mundane,
601
00:43:25,963 --> 00:43:28,923
except this is Sergei Skripal,
602
00:43:28,923 --> 00:43:31,083
the former spy
603
00:43:31,083 --> 00:43:35,123
who would be specifically targeted
with his daughter days later.
604
00:43:39,363 --> 00:43:43,883
Everything is normal in Salisbury
until it isn't normal.
605
00:43:43,883 --> 00:43:46,643
So essentially,
Sergei Skripal is there.
606
00:43:46,643 --> 00:43:50,083
His daughter Yulia
is flying over from Moscow.
607
00:43:51,403 --> 00:43:55,443
I was at a birthday party
and while I was there,
608
00:43:55,443 --> 00:43:59,403
I had an email from my news editor
at the time saying that
609
00:43:59,403 --> 00:44:02,043
someone had let us know
that the air ambulance had landed
610
00:44:02,043 --> 00:44:03,443
in Salisbury city centre.
611
00:44:12,963 --> 00:44:16,403
RUSSIAN ACCENT: We got Chepiga
and Mishkin coming down to Salisbury
612
00:44:16,403 --> 00:44:20,483
to go and look at the very tall
spire in Salisbury Cathedral,
613
00:44:20,483 --> 00:44:23,523
because it is spectacular.
Excuse my Russian accent.
614
00:44:25,123 --> 00:44:28,563
We could see, from the CCTV,
them arriving.
615
00:44:30,403 --> 00:44:32,843
The, sort of,
most shocking pictures, I think,
616
00:44:32,843 --> 00:44:35,043
for people in Salisbury,
was seeing them arriving
617
00:44:35,043 --> 00:44:38,923
at the train station and...
and walking around the city centre.
618
00:44:44,043 --> 00:44:46,923
They are seen and captured on CCTV,
it turns out,
619
00:44:46,923 --> 00:44:48,203
wandering round the streets
620
00:44:48,203 --> 00:44:51,843
and going towards the vicinity
of Sergei Skripal's house.
621
00:44:54,403 --> 00:44:58,643
They go to Skripal's house,
middle of the day,
622
00:44:58,643 --> 00:45:03,203
no-one around, and they apply
Novichok, a lethal nerve agent,
623
00:45:03,203 --> 00:45:06,163
to his front door handle.
624
00:45:07,843 --> 00:45:11,723
Sergei Skripal, he then comes into
contact with that on the Sunday,
625
00:45:11,723 --> 00:45:15,923
and then he and his daughter, Yulia,
fall seriously ill.
626
00:45:17,443 --> 00:45:19,363
Yulia collapses
627
00:45:19,363 --> 00:45:24,643
and Sergei starts muttering
and behaving strangely,
628
00:45:24,643 --> 00:45:27,523
and passersby begin to notice them
and think, you know,
629
00:45:27,523 --> 00:45:30,403
"Maybe they're off on drugs
or something."
630
00:45:33,283 --> 00:45:37,683
When I arrived in the Maltings,
it was late afternoon.
631
00:45:37,683 --> 00:45:40,483
The two people were found
on a bench, which was over there,
632
00:45:40,483 --> 00:45:41,923
and which has now been removed.
633
00:45:41,923 --> 00:45:45,283
It would have been a couple
of hours, I think, after that,
634
00:45:45,283 --> 00:45:48,003
that the fire crews turned up.
635
00:45:48,003 --> 00:45:50,563
And that was when
it first became obvious
636
00:45:50,563 --> 00:45:55,243
that something
more unusual was happening.
637
00:46:01,003 --> 00:46:05,523
I came into work as usual
on the Monday.
638
00:46:05,523 --> 00:46:09,363
I did some activity in theatres,
639
00:46:09,363 --> 00:46:11,643
but I'd heard rumours
that something was going on.
640
00:46:11,643 --> 00:46:16,923
I was in Abu Dhabi at the time,
giving a talk to people about
641
00:46:16,923 --> 00:46:21,563
chemical and biological terror
and state terror attacks.
642
00:46:21,563 --> 00:46:25,163
I got out and I had hundreds of
missed calls and WhatsApp messages
643
00:46:25,163 --> 00:46:27,003
and everything else.
644
00:46:27,003 --> 00:46:31,243
We had two patients admitted
with a working diagnosis
645
00:46:31,243 --> 00:46:34,243
of opioid poisoning.
646
00:46:34,243 --> 00:46:36,843
These patients
required intensive care.
647
00:46:36,843 --> 00:46:39,683
When I got to meet and examine
the patients,
648
00:46:39,683 --> 00:46:41,643
things didn't sit right with me
649
00:46:41,643 --> 00:46:43,803
that that was actually
what was going on.
650
00:46:43,803 --> 00:46:48,083
And by that stage also, we'd
come to be aware of the identity
651
00:46:48,083 --> 00:46:50,003
and professional background
of our patients.
652
00:46:50,003 --> 00:46:53,683
And so there were alarm bells
ringing about whether
653
00:46:53,683 --> 00:46:57,683
this could've been some nefarious
activity and a targeted incident.
654
00:47:01,043 --> 00:47:03,443
When I went into work
on the Tuesday morning,
655
00:47:03,443 --> 00:47:06,003
I took handover from my registrar
who'd been on overnight,
656
00:47:06,003 --> 00:47:08,123
who just recently received
a phone call
657
00:47:08,123 --> 00:47:11,163
from the chief medical officer
at Porton Down,
658
00:47:11,163 --> 00:47:15,443
explaining that our patients
had had severe poisoning
659
00:47:15,443 --> 00:47:18,803
with an anticholinesterase toxin,
660
00:47:18,803 --> 00:47:23,283
which is a very, very serious
and life-threatening condition,
661
00:47:23,283 --> 00:47:26,363
where patients can go into
multi-organ failure.
662
00:47:26,363 --> 00:47:30,083
The symptoms that are being
presented in hospital in Salisbury
663
00:47:30,083 --> 00:47:31,843
are consistent with
a nerve agent poison.
664
00:47:31,843 --> 00:47:35,883
I think the first time that we heard
that it definitely was a nerve agent
665
00:47:35,883 --> 00:47:39,003
would've been when it came
from the House of Commons.
666
00:47:39,003 --> 00:47:43,003
NEWSREADER: It is now clear
that Mr Skripal and his daughter
667
00:47:43,003 --> 00:47:45,723
were poisoned with a military-grade
nerve agent
668
00:47:45,723 --> 00:47:48,243
of a type developed by Russia.
669
00:47:48,243 --> 00:47:52,403
This is part of a group
of nerve agents known as Novichok.
670
00:47:52,403 --> 00:47:55,443
The government has concluded
that it is highly likely
671
00:47:55,443 --> 00:47:56,963
that Russia was responsible
672
00:47:56,963 --> 00:48:00,043
for the act against
Sergei and Yulia Skripal.
673
00:48:01,563 --> 00:48:05,363
Novichok is a lethal nerve agent,
674
00:48:05,363 --> 00:48:11,963
which was created in secret
facilities in Sarov in Russia,
675
00:48:11,963 --> 00:48:14,643
in the 1970s and 1980s
by an elite group of scientists
676
00:48:14,643 --> 00:48:15,923
working for the state.
677
00:48:15,923 --> 00:48:21,883
It's probably the most deadly
manmade chemical ever produced.
678
00:48:21,883 --> 00:48:26,483
To try and put it in toxicity terms,
say something like chlorine,
679
00:48:26,483 --> 00:48:30,603
you know, the first chemical weapon,
is toxicity one,
680
00:48:30,603 --> 00:48:34,283
the first nerve agent, Sarin,
developed by the Nazis
681
00:48:34,283 --> 00:48:38,323
before the Second World War
would be 5,000.
682
00:48:38,323 --> 00:48:41,763
Novichok would be about
60 or 70,000.
683
00:48:41,763 --> 00:48:44,843
There was enough Novichok there
to kill everybody in Salisbury.
684
00:48:44,843 --> 00:48:47,803
You could have killed tens, if not
hundreds of thousands, of people.
685
00:48:50,883 --> 00:48:55,483
To use a nerve agent
on the streets of Britain
686
00:48:55,483 --> 00:48:59,043
was something that no-one expected
and no-one had ever seen before.
687
00:48:59,043 --> 00:49:02,283
Novichok
is basically a calling card.
688
00:49:02,283 --> 00:49:05,923
Really, only Russia produces it.
It's linked with the Russian state.
689
00:49:05,923 --> 00:49:08,163
It was used in Salisbury
690
00:49:08,163 --> 00:49:12,323
by a Russian state
military intelligence outfit.
691
00:49:12,323 --> 00:49:14,883
All of the signs
point back to Russia.
692
00:50:02,803 --> 00:50:07,883
Novichok is produced only in Russia.
693
00:50:07,883 --> 00:50:12,523
And so, it's as if
Putin has left his visit card.
694
00:50:12,523 --> 00:50:14,523
It was Putin's visit card.
695
00:50:57,563 --> 00:51:00,683
NEWSREADER: The mystery surrounding
Alexander Litvinenko's death
696
00:51:00,683 --> 00:51:04,843
is more and more complex.
But the grief of a family
697
00:51:04,843 --> 00:51:09,523
is easy to understand. His widow,
Marina, has lost a husband.
698
00:51:09,523 --> 00:51:11,843
Their 12-year-old son
has lost his dad.
699
00:51:23,643 --> 00:51:28,323
I believe till last moment,
he would recover.
700
00:51:28,323 --> 00:51:33,003
Before Sasha died, night
before that, it was cardio arrest
701
00:51:33,003 --> 00:51:36,843
and he'd been unconscious last day.
702
00:51:36,843 --> 00:51:39,683
He'd been
all under support machines.
703
00:51:41,003 --> 00:51:43,723
And I believe
his heart was so strong,
704
00:51:43,723 --> 00:51:48,883
and he would be able to stay longer,
even this... this support machine.
705
00:51:50,963 --> 00:51:53,803
But his heart stopped at the end.
706
00:52:03,843 --> 00:52:06,483
The day that he died,
he died about 9pm in the evening.
707
00:52:06,483 --> 00:52:12,603
But that afternoon, Aldermaston,
the government scientific facility,
708
00:52:12,603 --> 00:52:15,483
came back with a result
709
00:52:15,483 --> 00:52:18,003
from an examination of his urine
and his blood.
710
00:52:21,643 --> 00:52:25,203
I was on the motorway
on my way back to London
711
00:52:25,203 --> 00:52:29,563
when I received a phone call
to say that, er, the substance
712
00:52:29,563 --> 00:52:35,203
with which Litvinenko had been
poisoned had been identified,
713
00:52:35,203 --> 00:52:37,683
and it was something called
Polonium 210.
714
00:52:39,403 --> 00:52:43,803
Polonium 210 is a radiological
isotope, very, very rare,
715
00:52:43,803 --> 00:52:47,523
that is used
in the nuclear weapons industry.
716
00:52:47,523 --> 00:52:49,283
Very, very few people have it.
717
00:52:49,283 --> 00:52:52,843
Any chemical or biological,
radiological weapon
718
00:52:52,843 --> 00:52:55,203
would have to be authorised
at the highest level.
719
00:53:01,123 --> 00:53:06,323
ANNOUNCER:
Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin!
720
00:53:08,123 --> 00:53:11,283
This is not something that, you
know, any random person or criminal
721
00:53:11,283 --> 00:53:14,443
or someone else could get hold of,
polonium.
722
00:53:14,443 --> 00:53:16,243
This has to come through a state.
723
00:53:18,243 --> 00:53:21,443
And at this point, it became
clear to the British Government
724
00:53:21,443 --> 00:53:24,603
that this was not just
a suspicious death or a killing.
725
00:53:24,603 --> 00:53:28,123
What they were dealing with was
a major and unprecedented crisis.
726
00:53:29,803 --> 00:53:35,683
Very quickly, the police are able
to understand that Dmitry Kovtun
727
00:53:35,683 --> 00:53:39,643
and Andrey Lugovoy
are key suspects in this.
728
00:53:39,643 --> 00:53:42,443
They can see from the fact
they've met Litvinenko,
729
00:53:42,443 --> 00:53:45,163
from the times
of when he was poisoned,
730
00:53:45,163 --> 00:53:47,723
then they're able to put together
the trail of polonium
731
00:53:47,723 --> 00:53:50,763
and match even to the aircraft
they travelled on to the UK,
732
00:53:50,763 --> 00:53:53,243
as well as other places
they'd been to in London.
733
00:53:53,243 --> 00:53:56,643
Wherever they went, there was a
kind of ghostly trail of particles,
734
00:53:56,643 --> 00:54:00,003
of gamma particles,
which were subsequently detected.
735
00:54:00,003 --> 00:54:03,083
And that means that this
assassination can be reconstructed
736
00:54:03,083 --> 00:54:06,683
in minute detail,
minute by minute, hour by hour.
737
00:54:08,683 --> 00:54:12,563
We tracked their movements. We found
where they'd stayed in London.
738
00:54:12,563 --> 00:54:16,043
We found which aircraft they'd used
to fly in and out of the country on,
739
00:54:16,043 --> 00:54:20,363
we found the offices
that they'd visited in London.
740
00:54:20,363 --> 00:54:21,963
There were over 40 sites
741
00:54:21,963 --> 00:54:25,403
of radioactive contamination
across London.
742
00:54:25,403 --> 00:54:27,363
Here you've got the weapon
743
00:54:27,363 --> 00:54:29,083
that they've left
all over the place,
744
00:54:29,083 --> 00:54:33,363
but which helped immensely in terms
of putting together the jigsaw.
745
00:54:35,883 --> 00:54:38,043
If the British security services
746
00:54:38,043 --> 00:54:40,523
and police hadn't worked out
what it was,
747
00:54:40,523 --> 00:54:43,603
this death may have just gone down
as a mystery.
748
00:54:43,603 --> 00:54:49,323
If Sasha died before
he was able to give this evidence -
749
00:54:49,323 --> 00:54:50,843
and people who committed this crime,
750
00:54:50,843 --> 00:54:55,443
they exactly wanted him
to die before -
751
00:54:55,443 --> 00:55:00,603
again, it would be just unexplained
death and not any trace of Polonium,
752
00:55:00,603 --> 00:55:02,403
not any links to Russia,
753
00:55:02,403 --> 00:55:05,323
not any links to these people
who did this crime.
754
00:55:23,523 --> 00:55:24,963
APPLAUSE
755
00:55:29,043 --> 00:55:33,203
If you listen to the language
Vladimir Putin uses in,
756
00:55:33,203 --> 00:55:35,883
for instance, press conferences
and interviews,
757
00:55:35,883 --> 00:55:40,403
when he's asked about people who
betrayed Russia, it is remarkable.
758
00:55:40,403 --> 00:55:42,403
He talks about swine, traitors.
759
00:55:42,403 --> 00:55:46,643
And it's quite clear that he is
signalling they deserve to die.
760
00:55:46,643 --> 00:55:52,243
Putin's approach to assassination
is fascinating.
761
00:55:52,243 --> 00:55:56,643
If we go back to
the mid-20th century, quite often,
762
00:55:56,643 --> 00:56:01,683
the objective was to kill someone
in a way that was hidden
763
00:56:01,683 --> 00:56:03,803
or at least plausibly deniable.
764
00:56:03,803 --> 00:56:09,443
What we see with Putin is a shift
to implausible deniability.
765
00:56:11,883 --> 00:56:15,363
It was a message first and foremost
to the British Government
766
00:56:15,363 --> 00:56:18,403
and to MI6. It says that,
"We've got no respect for you.
767
00:56:18,403 --> 00:56:21,763
"We can pursue our traitors
at a time of our choosing,
768
00:56:21,763 --> 00:56:25,283
"and we can settle with them. We can
snuff them out whenever we want,
769
00:56:25,283 --> 00:56:28,403
"and you are weak,
you are powerless,
770
00:56:28,403 --> 00:56:30,363
"and we can humiliate you."
771
00:56:30,363 --> 00:56:33,403
The murders,
the murky killings continue.
772
00:56:36,043 --> 00:56:40,243
The idea that foreign assassins can
come into London and kill someone
773
00:56:40,243 --> 00:56:42,723
is an embarrassing failure.
774
00:56:42,723 --> 00:56:45,203
It suggests that people,
including defectors,
775
00:56:45,203 --> 00:56:47,603
are not safe in Britain.
And that is something
776
00:56:47,603 --> 00:56:50,963
which worries and embarrasses
the security services
777
00:56:50,963 --> 00:56:52,563
and the police when it does happen.
778
00:56:53,803 --> 00:56:56,883
If you look around the world, you
can see that there certainly are
779
00:56:56,883 --> 00:57:00,683
intelligence agencies
that do use assassinations.
780
00:57:00,683 --> 00:57:02,643
This is not something the UK does.
781
00:57:05,403 --> 00:57:11,003
In most countries in the world,
espionage is deemed illegal.
782
00:57:11,003 --> 00:57:14,403
So here we are, people like me,
going over there,
783
00:57:14,403 --> 00:57:16,403
breaking other country's laws.
784
00:57:16,403 --> 00:57:21,243
That's the nature of the job.
We're spies. That's what we do.
785
00:57:22,843 --> 00:57:25,563
I'm not sure it comes from
a higher sense of morality,
786
00:57:25,563 --> 00:57:29,843
but rather this - that if you can
get to somebody to assassinate them,
787
00:57:29,843 --> 00:57:35,083
you can get to them to bug them,
to recruit them, to undermine them.
788
00:57:35,083 --> 00:57:38,363
Assassination is something
that any service could do,
789
00:57:38,363 --> 00:57:40,323
but doesn't necessarily have to do.
790
00:57:44,563 --> 00:57:50,763
I am quite sure I am in the list
of these legitimate targets.
791
00:57:51,803 --> 00:57:56,843
Vladimir Putin would definitely
not hesitate to give authorisation.
792
00:57:58,123 --> 00:58:00,923
How successful it would be,
we'll never know.
793
00:58:02,763 --> 00:58:06,003
Whether they manage to do so or not,
we'll never know.
794
00:58:15,123 --> 00:58:16,803
The idea of compromise.
795
00:58:16,803 --> 00:58:18,363
Thinking, to a certain level,
796
00:58:18,363 --> 00:58:21,163
it's not about winning someone
round, it's about coercion.
797
00:58:21,163 --> 00:58:22,843
Which is nasty.
798
00:58:24,323 --> 00:58:27,083
Vassall is essentially compromised
799
00:58:27,083 --> 00:58:32,043
by being invited
to a KGB-organised orgy.
800
00:58:32,043 --> 00:58:34,883
Sex between two consenting adults
801
00:58:34,883 --> 00:58:38,763
is surely a better way to extract
intelligence than torture.
802
00:58:38,763 --> 00:58:41,283
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