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We've all seen James Bond.
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The question is,
what will it be like?
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Will I be asked to kill people?
How dangerous will it be?
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Most people live
in blissful ignorance
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of what goes on around them.
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It's a spy's job
to keep it that way.
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I believe till last moment
he will recover.
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But his heart stopped at the end.
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When an intelligence officer
is recruiting a spy,
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they think of the acronym MICE:
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money, ideology, coercion, ego.
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Other members of MI6 just don't
believe he could possibly be a spy.
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Were you, in fact, the third man?
No, I was not.
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Can you imagine waking up
and worrying you might have
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said something that would
give you away as a traitor?
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I heard the voice menacingly
uttering these words,
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"We know who you are. We know
who you're working for. It's over."
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The world of espionage
is all around us.
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It's an unseen world. Operations
are playing out all the time.
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Narratives we never see or hear.
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Deceit and manipulation are...
are hard-wired into the profession.
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If you can persuade the enemy
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that you're approaching
from the right flank
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rather than the left flank,
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then you're going to
be able to achieve surprise.
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We have to maintain
the deceit, because typically,
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you're operating
in hostile environments.
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If you are caught, then
the results could be catastrophic.
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The absolute bedrock of any
intelligence service is deception.
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If you're going to work secretly,
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you've got to mislead the other
side. They mustn't see you coming.
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What you need to do is to feed
your story to the adversary
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through as many channels
as possible.
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So they begin to believe,
"Well, it must be true."
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AIR-RAID SIREN BLARES
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MORSE CODE MACHINE BLEEPS
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My father was a German double agent,
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sending information
to the German secret services.
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He actually worked for the
American Army as a liaison officer,
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just outside west London.
And so he was on the radio,
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supplying information
to the Germans.
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As we got closer and closer
to the D-Day landings,
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he was reporting on
gatherings of troops
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and gatherings
of senior military officials.
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Really detailed, er, war plans
about the build-up of troops
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that were clearly gonna be
landing at Calais.
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These troops were assembling,
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in anticipation of a major move
across the English Channel.
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The extraordinary fact is that
that was completely fictitious.
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The job never existed.
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And my father was giving
created information
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as part of a bigger picture
to divert attention away
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from the real landings that were
gonna take place in Normandy.
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With Double Cross,
the idea was to run double agents
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against Nazi Germany,
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and in many cases,
for the Germans to think
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that they were really
their own agents.
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It took a particular kind of
fiendish intelligence, I think,
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to feed material back to the Germans
in order to deceive them.
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It's about persuading the Germans
that we're going to attack
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not in Normandy, but in Calais.
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It's a long, slow deception
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of gradually feeding
pieces of intelligence, information,
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to the Germans ahead of the landing
on the beaches of D-Day.
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My father was a case officer,
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which meant that he had
charge of the double agent,
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and was responsible for coordinating
the information
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that they sent back to Germany.
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There were some ground rules.
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All of the messages sent out
by the double agents
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were coordinated
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because it was vital that not one
agent tripped another agent.
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The people running this operation
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are effectively conducting
an orchestra,
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and there are different instruments
in this orchestra.
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In some cases, it's spies who
are sending back false information.
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In other cases, it's physical
things. It's entire phoney armies.
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WEST: You'll be able to look
and see aircraft and gliders,
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landing craft, in river estuaries.
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What they weren't aware of
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were the tanks
were dummy rubber, blow-up tanks.
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The landing craft
were made of balsa wood.
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And many of the aircraft
were dummy aircraft
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concentrated on airfields
in the southeast of England
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and East Anglia.
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Because that would clearly be
the launch point for an attack
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across to the Pas de Calais.
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It's difficult these days to imagine
anything so complex working.
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There's great risk with deception
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that if the adversary
sees through it,
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then you've actually given them
the one thing
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that you were trying to avoid,
which is your true intentions.
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GERRY: It was desperately important
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that the potential build-up
of German troops
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were diverted away from Normandy,
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because otherwise D-Day would stop
pretty much dead in its tracks.
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MORSE CODE MACHINE BEEPS
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And so, agents like my father
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carried on sending
and transmitting information
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that the invasion of Calais
was to take place.
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SUSTAINED GUNFIRE AND EXPLOSIONS
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The German High Command
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was convinced
by clever multiple deceptions.
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They held back a whole
German armoured division.
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And that may well have
saved the Normandy landings,
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cos if that armoured division
had been opposing the landings,
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then it could all have ended
very, very badly.
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ALDRICH: So this is deception
on a massive scale,
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and it's so effective
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that even after the Allies
have landed in Normandy,
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the Germans believe
that the real attack is a fake.
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They believe the deception
story so completely.
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CHUCKLING: They even continue
to believe it
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once the allies have landed
after D-Day.
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It's a remarkable achievement.
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Double Cross is not just
one of the great operations
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of the Second World War,
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but it was one of the greatest
deception successes in history.
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I'm proud of my father.
It's an extraordinary achievement.
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It's what intelligence has
morphed into in the 21st century,
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is by and large is the offspring
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of the success of the Double Cross
system in the Second World War.
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There will be thousands
of my father's equivalents
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wandering the streets
of London or Kabul.
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So it's kind of, yeah,
the game goes on.
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MI6 isn't a building full of spies.
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It's a building
full of intelligence officers.
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Intelligence officers
recruit agents.
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Those agents are the spies
that are in their organisations.
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An agent is a person who's outside
of an intelligence agency.
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They're a normal person
going about their normal lives,
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and they would be approached
and recruited
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by someone who works
for an intelligence agency.
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In the UK,
we call this person an officer.
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And the idea is that every officer
should have a range of agents.
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A web of agents, if you like,
who report on their various targets.
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If you can recruit somebody
in the enemy organization,
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you are effectively
crippling your enemy.
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And that's what really does damage.
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That's the really big win
in intelligence circles.
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I remember, as a senior
military intelligence officer,
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reading reports
that had come from MI6.
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And it was clear from what was
being said in those reports
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that they had someone
inside Al-Qaeda.
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One thing you should know about
espionage, as well as bomb-making,
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the first mistake
is your last mistake.
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You're not going to live
to make another mistake.
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RAPID GUNFIRE
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He realised that Al-Qaeda
were targeting non-combatants,
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civilian targets, targeting other
Muslims, and killing more Muslims.
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That was when it was
very clear in his mind,
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that's not what he signed up for.
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I made the conscious decision
to leave, and through some...
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you know,
some incredible circumstances,
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I ended up in the lap
of the British intelligence.
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That is probably one of
the bravest things that he has done,
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and it's a mark
of how he was trusted
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within the Al-Qaeda organisation
that he managed to do that.
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When you're a spy,
you have to really convince yourself
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that you are a genuine West-hating,
bloodthirsty jihadist,
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and you have no qualms whatsoever
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about killing
all of those who stand in our way.
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Every time Aimen
will have come out to be debriefed,
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they'll have had to make sure
that he wasn't compromised.
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So that when they do
put him back in again,
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he won't be arrested by them,
tortured, and then killed.
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Your task is to absorb
everything around you.
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You are learning about the camps,
locations,
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the number of people attending,
the names, aliases.
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You spend literally, you know,
hundreds of hours
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reconstructing it again
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for the benefit
of the intelligence services.
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MI6 would provide training
to an agent it recruits
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about how to be aware of any
risk or danger to themselves,
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but a lot of times, these agents
have to rely on their own wits.
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I remember in 1999, in one of
the camps, I was in the kitchen.
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I distinctly felt the end
of a pistol against my spine.
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I heard the voice of one of our
fellow jihadists in the camp.
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"We know who you are, we know
who you're working for. It's over."
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One wrong word and you are
a head shorter and six feet under.
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So I told him, in no uncertain
terms, "Lower your weapon.
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"It is explicitly forbidden to
point a gun at a fellow jihadist.
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"And I won't tolerate this joke."
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It's not an uncommon practice
among different organisations
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whenever they know
they've got a mole somewhere.
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They'll do things to shock people
and watch what their reaction is,
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and this was clearly
designed to shock him.
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After he left the kitchen,
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even though it was November,
in Afghanistan,
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it was starting to snow,
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you know, I was sweating buckets.
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It's a mark
of the strength of his character
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that in that sort of situation,
he didn't panic
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and give away indicators
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to suggest that he was the mole,
he was the agent.
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Life in the University of Cambridge
in the 1930s was very exclusive,
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publicly-educated men would be
part of a quite intimate circle
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that was also quite arrogant.
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These are clever people. They can
see what's happening in Germany.
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They can see what's happening
in Italy. And they don't like it.
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Who are the people who are resisting
fascism in the mid-1930s?
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It's the communists.
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Communism is seen as the answer,
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but it's not necessarily
seen as in conflict, surprisingly,
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with being British.
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The Soviet Union had decided on
a new policy
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that they would target
undergraduates
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at the best universities
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who were likely
to go on to good jobs.
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They're saying to their recruits
"Just stay in the background,
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"go into Whitehall, go into
Westminster, go into politics.
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"In the future,
you're going to be useful to us."
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He was won over by the cause,
not as a concept or an ideology,
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but as an action
that he could take.
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He was young and he was impassioned
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and he felt like
he could change the world.
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Kim went to Westminster,
he went to Cambridge,
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he was part of that upper-class,
British, stiff-upper-lip,
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"don't dwell too much
on your emotions,
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"certain things
we never talk about."
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So you sort of compartmentalise.
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And it sort of breeds
an ability to keep secrets.
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I think he walked between these two
worlds. There was this secret life.
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You learn to hide your feelings to,
in a sense, play the game,
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and you become a chameleon.
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NEWSREEL: 'The government's final
warning to Hitler has been ignored
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'and a state of war once more exists
between Great Britain and Germany.'
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The Russians were very keen
for their recruits
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to take a whole variety of jobs.
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They clearly targeted
all sorts of organisations,
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but of course, intelligence services
were part of that.
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There wasn't time to do checks.
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And in those days, it was assumed
if you'd been to the right school,
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that you would be fine.
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Mr Lyubimov, could you give
your full name please?
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Well,
it's Lyubimov Mikhail Petrovic.
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I entered the KGB in 1959.
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I was sent to Great Britain in 1961,
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and worked there until '65.
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Kim Philby was a very charming man.
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To discover such a person
is not so easy.
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He was from the establishment.
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He was a son of a very
important man, a scientist,
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and he was closely connected
to the British high circles.
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And of course, he was trusted.
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Philby was, I think,
the most successful
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at leading that double life,
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working his way inside
the British Secret Service.
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It's sort of a bit of a boys' club.
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They all had parents
who knew one another,
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they all were part of
the same elite establishment.
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Philby climbs higher
and higher within MI6.
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And he's ultimately where he wanted
to be, head of Section IX.
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Ironically,
in charge of the Russian desk.
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The Russians
couldn't believe their luck.
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It would've given them a very,
very clear advantage
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in this crucial moment
in the Cold War.
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CHARLOTTE PHILBY: It was him who was
responsible for keeping tabs
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on what they had on the Soviets.
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It's something that
if you did write it in a novel,
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people would think
that it was too far-fetched.
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When I was operating under alias,
I was that person,
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there was no question about it.
I was not Matthew Dunn.
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It is like acting.
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Obviously the difference being
at the end of a performance,
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the actor takes his or her
costume off and that's it.
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Whereas as intelligence officer,
you're living that role
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for however long
the operation lasts.
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HARRY FERGUSON: If you were
an officer who was going abroad
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as a businessman, you would spend
some time shadowing a salesman,
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learning the lingo. You've got to be
convincing in that role.
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And you've actually got to do
some of that work.
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You are out there undercover,
fake identity.
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And having to be eternally vigilant
does take its wear and tear.
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It takes its toll.
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At peak, I had 14 aliases.
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It's not just a case of having
a passport, a credit card...
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One has to have a whole life
behind that name.
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So that would include things like
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knowing which schools you've been
to, the names of your teachers,
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what beer is on draft
in your local pub,
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what your local cinema is.
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The whole backstory. So you have to
have answers ready to hand,
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in case you get caught out.
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Peter and Helen Kroger ran
an antiquarian book shop in London,
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they lived at Cranley Drive
in Ruislip.
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They had slightly unusual accents.
But to all intents and purposes,
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they looked like entirely normal
people in the suburbs.
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They had a car, they made friends
with all the neighbours.
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Helen Kroger made a point of having
children's parties
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and inviting
the local neighbours around.
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They seemed like an ordinary,
if foreign couple
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living in that suburban
environment.
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But there was much more to Peter and
Helen Kroger than first met the eye.
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NEWSREEL: Ready for her launching
and to be given a famous name
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at Barrow-in-Furness,
a revolutionary ship.
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The Royal Navy's first
nuclear-powered submarine.
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In 1960, Britain was launching
the first nuclear submarine
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which the United Kingdom had.
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I name this ship Dreadnought.
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May God bless her
and all who sail in her.
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Now, Britain was developing
a world-beating sonar
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for this submarine down at Portland,
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the centre of all Britain's,
and a lot of NATO research,
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into everything secret
about underwater warfare.
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The KGB had two spies
operating inside Portland.
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One was a man called Harry Houghton,
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and the other was his mistress,
called Ethel Gee.
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PHONE RINGS
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My father
was in counter-intelligence.
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He had a lot of charm,
managed to get people to cooperate
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by sympathising
with their position, you know,
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not just simply telling them
they jolly well had to cooperate.
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One of the things that my father
really didn't like
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was he didn't like people pretending
to be something they weren't.
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MI5 set a surveillance team
onto Harry Houghton.
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And he came up to London
with his girlfriend, Ethel Gee.
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And he met, outside
the Old Vic, a mysterious man.
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And MI5 discovered
his name was Gordon Lonsdale.
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And the early evidence suggested
he was a Canadian businessman.
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NEWSREEL: They found
that he was certainly in business,
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associated with some
small companies
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operating from the second floor
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of number 19 Wardour Street
in the West End.
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The seedy characters
of Harry Houghton
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and then Gordon Lonsdale,
who lived in Soho in the '60s.
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These were, kind of, characters
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which you almost
couldn't make up now,
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but were very much of their time.
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Elwell took the top off and
discovered, hidden in the bottom,
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one-time encoding pads,
which were the trademark of the KGB.
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There was this moment of realisation
by MI5 that they had on their hands
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a top KGB spy.
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He clearly was
a very sophisticated operator.
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I mean, brilliant, actually,
when you think about it.
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My father did have great sensitivity
as an investigator.
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He had this ability to put himself
into Gordon Lonsdale's mind.
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Peter and Helen Kroger weren't
Peter and Helen Kroger at all.
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Their real identity
was Lona and Morris Cohen,
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and these were top KGB spies
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who were recruited by the KGB
at the end of the 1930s.
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Gordon Lonsdale was their
controller, and he, on the one hand,
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dealt with Harry Houghton
and Ethel Gee
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and collected the material
from them.
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And then he took it over
to the Krogers.
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The Krogers would send the material
to Moscow by means of microdots.
347
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So this is about using sophisticated
filming to reduce documents down,
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really, to the size of a pinhead.
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This is 1960s
advanced spy technology.
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And because Peter Kroger
was an antiquarian book seller,
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he would replace the full stops...
Think of it, just the full stop,
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with a photograph
of a secret document.
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So when the trial took place,
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there was massive
international publicity about it.
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People could not believe the idea
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that antiquarian book sellers
living in Ruislip
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might have been running a spy base
out of their home,
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and it did give rise
to that question,
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"Well, who else might be a spy?
Who else next door might be a spy?"
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And so this kind of spy fever
certainly takes hold in the '60s,
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and there's talk of spies and
traitors and deception everywhere.
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It sounds like fiction,
but it's fact. It happened here.
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NEWSREEL: The Brandenburg Gate in
Berlin was once as proud a landmark
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as the Arc de Triomphe.
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Now it marks the dividing line
between East and West.
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Between the two parts of Berlin.
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A lot of the spy fiction
that we love mirrors reality,
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and often written by those
that were intelligence officers.
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They've inhabited that world,
they understand it,
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so that fact and fiction just blurs.
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I had an obsession with
authenticity,
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or the search for authenticity,
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and that made me, well, frankly,
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travel to almost all the places
I mentioned in the books.
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That derived, really,
from The Day Of The Jackal.
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I wanted to see the real thing.
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If you're going into that world
at all, absolutely vital
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that you have a cover story,
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and the best cover story
of them all is true.
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I was a foreign correspondent
in East Germany,
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who legitimately asks questions
and reports back,
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supposedly to his editor,
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but maybe to someone else,
apart from the editor.
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I knew my office was bugged.
My bedroom was bugged.
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My sitting room was bugged.
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And whenever I went out onto the
street, there they were behind me.
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I could just stay in East Germany
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for three, four, five,
six days at a time.
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And while there,
I could do whatever was wanted,
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deliver a message, pick up
a message, observe and report back.
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Because David Cornwell was
a serving intelligence officer,
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he decided that he needed
a pseudonym.
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So he adopted the pseudonym
John Le Carre.
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John Le Carre, of course,
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specialised in books
about deception, dissimulation.
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Um, pretending not to be what
you are and to be what you're not,
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and getting away it.
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He made occasional trips
into Berlin,
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which was then an island
inside East Germany,
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and he found out
that the East Germans
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were erecting a wall
dividing the city in half.
402
00:31:38,123 --> 00:31:42,403
And it became the dominant symbol of
John Le Carre's breakthrough novel,
403
00:31:42,403 --> 00:31:43,843
The Spy Who Came In From The Cold.
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00:31:46,803 --> 00:31:49,963
It was one of the last major feature
films made in black and white,
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00:31:49,963 --> 00:31:51,723
and it was deliberately done
406
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in order to give a sense of the,
kind of, bleakness of the Cold War.
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Everything was grey and dark.
408
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SIREN BLARES
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Halt! Halt!
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00:32:08,563 --> 00:32:10,723
GUNFIRE
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Prior to that, it was assumed that
all espionage was just gentlemen,
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all public school,
all jolly good chaps.
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00:32:25,683 --> 00:32:29,123
John Le Carre was the first to say,
"No, it's not like that at all.
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00:32:29,123 --> 00:32:33,043
"It's down there, dark and devious
and mucky,
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00:32:33,043 --> 00:32:36,083
"and involving treachery
and betrayal."
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00:32:44,523 --> 00:32:46,603
What the hell
do you think spies are?
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Moral philosophers measuring
everything they do
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00:32:48,843 --> 00:32:50,563
against the word of God
or Karl Marx?
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00:32:50,563 --> 00:32:54,443
They're not. They're just a bunch
of seedy, squalid bastards like me.
420
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But the real world of espionage
is about deception,
421
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and sometimes the horrible penalties
of failure to deceive -
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00:33:01,923 --> 00:33:03,483
being
caught.
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You bury your nervousness so deep
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in order to make sure
that it doesn't show.
425
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From dawn all the way
until mid-afternoon,
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that is where we are experimenting
427
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and blowing up
new kind of explosives,
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00:33:52,763 --> 00:33:55,803
or testing,
you know, the latest batch
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of poisons or chemical weapons.
430
00:34:00,963 --> 00:34:04,883
Al-Qaeda were very interested
in particularly chemical weapons
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00:34:04,883 --> 00:34:07,883
and did a lot of work
in Afghanistan
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trying to produce a small, compact,
viable, chemical
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00:34:12,403 --> 00:34:14,963
improvised explosive device
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00:34:14,963 --> 00:34:17,963
that could be used
to kill and maim people.
435
00:34:19,323 --> 00:34:24,283
These are bombs,
or chemical gas devices
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00:34:24,283 --> 00:34:29,683
to be left on trains,
insides cinemas, nightclubs.
437
00:34:29,683 --> 00:34:34,123
There are no civilians
as far as our enemies are concerned.
438
00:34:37,163 --> 00:34:42,243
A chemical bomb or a biological bomb
going off on the New York Subway
439
00:34:42,243 --> 00:34:46,123
or the UK Underground
would have a devastating impact.
440
00:34:58,283 --> 00:35:04,363
Whenever agents come across nuggets
of information, like Aimen did,
441
00:35:04,363 --> 00:35:08,123
that's when you get something
that is so important to get out,
442
00:35:08,123 --> 00:35:11,123
especially if it's... if there's
a timeliness attached to it,
443
00:35:11,123 --> 00:35:15,683
the agent will take additional
risks to get the information out
444
00:35:15,683 --> 00:35:17,403
so they can try and stop the attack.
445
00:35:18,723 --> 00:35:21,683
If you are nervous, it'll show.
446
00:35:21,683 --> 00:35:24,523
The first mistake
is your last mistake.
447
00:35:24,523 --> 00:35:27,203
You're not going to live to
make another mistake,
448
00:35:27,203 --> 00:35:30,003
and therefore,
you have to be absolutely careful.
449
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If he got caught,
he would've been tortured
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for as long as they could have
tortured him for,
451
00:35:34,443 --> 00:35:38,723
and then killed in a very, very
painful and extreme way.
452
00:35:41,963 --> 00:35:44,403
We're looking at a rucksack-sized
device, you know,
453
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maybe a couple of kilos.
454
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Now, in the confines
of an underground train,
455
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we're talking five or six people
may be killed by the explosion.
456
00:35:54,963 --> 00:35:57,043
But hundreds killed by the panic.
457
00:35:58,563 --> 00:36:01,003
If you've got a thousand people
on a Tube train
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and everybody's trying to get out at
the same time, at the full sprint,
459
00:36:05,043 --> 00:36:07,923
one can imagine
how horrific that would be.
460
00:36:16,363 --> 00:36:17,963
Aimen was lucky.
461
00:36:17,963 --> 00:36:21,643
He didn't blow his cover, and
managed to get the information out
462
00:36:21,643 --> 00:36:24,443
in a timely way that allowed
the attack to be intercepted.
463
00:36:25,963 --> 00:36:29,163
The role of double agents,
the role of people like Aimen,
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00:36:29,163 --> 00:36:31,443
was fundamental.
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Without people who are prepared
to do the most dangerous things,
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00:36:37,043 --> 00:36:39,323
and take the most heinous risks,
467
00:36:39,323 --> 00:36:44,163
we would be a lot less safe
in our beds here in the UK.
468
00:37:16,483 --> 00:37:19,603
When Philby was posted
to Washington,
469
00:37:19,603 --> 00:37:22,763
it expanded his access dramatically.
470
00:37:22,763 --> 00:37:26,403
Cos it gives you access to the FBI
and the CIA.
471
00:37:26,403 --> 00:37:30,283
He's a star
British intelligence officer.
472
00:37:30,283 --> 00:37:32,123
He's at the height of his game.
473
00:37:32,123 --> 00:37:34,523
He's being groomed
to be head of MI6.
474
00:37:34,523 --> 00:37:38,643
He's at the centre
of this whole operation,
475
00:37:38,643 --> 00:37:41,803
whilst passing not only
British intelligence,
476
00:37:41,803 --> 00:37:47,243
but intelligence which the Americans
are sharing with us.
477
00:37:47,243 --> 00:37:50,563
That's also being sent
to the Russians.
478
00:37:50,563 --> 00:37:54,203
He was obviously calculating,
but he was also opportunistic.
479
00:37:54,203 --> 00:37:56,523
And I think
that's to do with personality.
480
00:37:56,523 --> 00:37:59,923
That's just fundamentally
about being able to charm
481
00:37:59,923 --> 00:38:02,523
and persuade people that
you are the version of yourself
482
00:38:02,523 --> 00:38:04,563
that you want them to see.
483
00:38:18,123 --> 00:38:23,363
The Cambridge Five were in the
Cabinet Office in Bletchley Park,
484
00:38:23,363 --> 00:38:27,163
in MI6, MI5,
they had agents everywhere.
485
00:38:27,163 --> 00:38:29,043
It was so lax, the security,
486
00:38:29,043 --> 00:38:32,803
that they were able to just,
with impunity, go in and out
487
00:38:32,803 --> 00:38:36,563
and remove literally thousands
and thousands of documents.
488
00:38:36,563 --> 00:38:38,443
LYUBIMOV: These Magnificent Five,
489
00:38:38,443 --> 00:38:41,963
they're unique
in the history of espionage.
490
00:38:41,963 --> 00:38:46,483
They supplied the information
about all the talks in the Cabinet,
491
00:38:46,483 --> 00:38:48,363
all the Cabinet papers.
492
00:38:48,363 --> 00:38:51,203
So it was such an amount
of information.
493
00:38:51,203 --> 00:38:54,843
CORERA: This was a cosy
establishment club
494
00:38:54,843 --> 00:38:57,643
of people who were friends
and knew each other,
495
00:38:57,643 --> 00:38:59,723
and who covered for each other.
496
00:39:01,723 --> 00:39:04,203
LOWNIE: There were suspicions
about them.
497
00:39:04,203 --> 00:39:06,363
The problem was
they were never really followed up.
498
00:39:06,363 --> 00:39:09,603
No-one wanted people
to report on each other,
499
00:39:09,603 --> 00:39:12,803
because it was sort of like school.
It was telling tales.
500
00:39:12,803 --> 00:39:15,563
So there were
a lot of close calls.
501
00:39:19,043 --> 00:39:21,683
Very gradually, very slowly,
502
00:39:21,683 --> 00:39:26,323
Western code breakers
start to make some inroads.
503
00:39:26,323 --> 00:39:31,243
Not very much, but enough
to identify some of these agents.
504
00:39:36,043 --> 00:39:37,483
Suspicion starts to fall
505
00:39:37,483 --> 00:39:39,843
on the fact that there might be
a spy in Washington.
506
00:39:39,843 --> 00:39:42,523
And they point to the fact
that there'd been a spy
507
00:39:42,523 --> 00:39:44,723
in the British Embassy
in Washington,
508
00:39:44,723 --> 00:39:47,403
and suspicion eventually falls
on Donald Maclean,
509
00:39:47,403 --> 00:39:48,883
one of the Cambridge Five.
510
00:39:56,643 --> 00:39:59,203
They were worried,
they were under surveillance,
511
00:39:59,203 --> 00:40:03,323
they were being bugged. And the
escape plan was put into operation.
512
00:40:12,283 --> 00:40:14,803
It captured people's imagination.
513
00:40:14,803 --> 00:40:17,883
I mean, people love spy films,
and this wilderness of mirrors,
514
00:40:17,883 --> 00:40:20,203
of trying to work out
what's really going on.
515
00:40:20,203 --> 00:40:24,123
There was a real worry that we were
on the point of another war.
516
00:40:24,123 --> 00:40:28,723
Now the cracks are beginning
to appear, and for Philby,
517
00:40:28,723 --> 00:40:32,603
the attention turns to him
as a possible third man.
518
00:40:32,603 --> 00:40:35,643
If there was a third man,
were you, in fact, the third man?
519
00:40:35,643 --> 00:40:37,403
No, I was not.
520
00:40:37,403 --> 00:40:39,923
Do you think there was one?
No comment.
521
00:40:39,923 --> 00:40:44,243
Why didn't he run?
In the 1950s, he's accused.
522
00:40:44,243 --> 00:40:46,643
And he brasses it out.
523
00:40:46,643 --> 00:40:51,403
CHARLOTTE PHILBY: At that stage,
there aren't many options open.
524
00:40:51,403 --> 00:40:56,243
He'd first become embroiled
in this world aged 19 or 20.
525
00:40:56,243 --> 00:40:58,843
He was used to it.
526
00:40:58,843 --> 00:41:00,443
He knew no other way of being,
527
00:41:00,443 --> 00:41:03,283
other than living
as two separate characters
528
00:41:03,283 --> 00:41:06,803
and having to do so
with a great sense of conviction.
529
00:41:08,643 --> 00:41:12,563
CORERA: Kim Philby, I think, had
a unique hardness of his character,
530
00:41:12,563 --> 00:41:16,363
an ability to deceive
and maintain deception,
531
00:41:16,363 --> 00:41:19,323
in the way he was able
to betray his colleagues.
532
00:41:26,163 --> 00:41:28,603
"Is he the third man?", they ask.
533
00:41:28,603 --> 00:41:31,203
There've been these questions
in Parliament about him.
534
00:41:31,203 --> 00:41:35,283
And he just brazenly lies
and denies it all.
535
00:41:35,283 --> 00:41:38,003
INTERVIEWER: The Foreign Secretary
has said that, in the past,
536
00:41:38,003 --> 00:41:39,763
you had communist associations.
537
00:41:39,763 --> 00:41:41,723
Is that why you were asked
to resign?
538
00:41:41,723 --> 00:41:45,923
I was asked to resign
because of an imprudent association.
539
00:41:45,923 --> 00:41:48,763
That was your association
with Burgess. Correct.
540
00:41:48,763 --> 00:41:51,323
What about these alleged
communist associations?
541
00:41:51,323 --> 00:41:53,003
Can you say anything about that?
542
00:41:53,003 --> 00:41:55,243
The last time
I spoke to a communist,
543
00:41:55,243 --> 00:42:00,603
knowing him to be a communist,
was some time in 1934.
544
00:42:00,603 --> 00:42:03,723
The man is clearly lying.
He's got a smirk on his face,
545
00:42:03,723 --> 00:42:07,963
you know, when he's denying it.
I don't find it very convincing.
546
00:42:09,083 --> 00:42:13,683
Other members of MI6 just don't
believe he could possibly be a spy.
547
00:42:13,683 --> 00:42:16,203
They almost don't want to confront
the possibility
548
00:42:16,203 --> 00:42:18,243
that their friend, Kim Philby,
549
00:42:18,243 --> 00:42:21,003
a person many looked up to
as the future of MI6,
550
00:42:21,003 --> 00:42:24,323
could possibly be a traitor.
They just do not want to believe it.
551
00:42:26,243 --> 00:42:31,203
Of the Cambridge Five,
Philby is the star.
552
00:42:31,203 --> 00:42:36,803
Perhaps Philby is the greatest spy
of the 20th century.
553
00:43:18,603 --> 00:43:21,603
Anna Chapman
is the glamorous daughter
554
00:43:21,603 --> 00:43:24,683
of a high-ranking
intelligence officer
555
00:43:24,683 --> 00:43:27,683
who was sent to New York
to glean secrets
556
00:43:27,683 --> 00:43:29,523
which she would then
send back to Moscow.
557
00:43:29,523 --> 00:43:31,363
It sounds like something
out of Ian Fleming
558
00:43:31,363 --> 00:43:32,643
because it basically was.
559
00:43:34,763 --> 00:43:37,243
The KGB have had
two types of spies.
560
00:43:37,243 --> 00:43:40,803
They've had the legal ones
that operate out of embassies,
561
00:43:40,803 --> 00:43:43,683
and then they've had
what are known as the illegal spies.
562
00:43:43,683 --> 00:43:47,163
CORERA: An illegal doesn't have
diplomatic immunity.
563
00:43:47,163 --> 00:43:51,323
They are pretending, for instance,
to be a businessman or a book seller
564
00:43:51,323 --> 00:43:52,843
or something like that.
565
00:43:52,843 --> 00:43:56,523
And that means if they're arrested,
they can go to jail.
566
00:43:57,603 --> 00:44:02,203
You pass them in the street,
they look like your fellow citizens,
567
00:44:02,203 --> 00:44:03,563
but they're not.
568
00:44:10,523 --> 00:44:14,363
Anna Chapman comes over
as a teenager to the UK
569
00:44:14,363 --> 00:44:17,323
and she falls in love
and marries a young British man
570
00:44:17,323 --> 00:44:19,963
and gets a British passport.
571
00:44:19,963 --> 00:44:24,763
It's not clear exactly
when she becomes an active agent.
572
00:44:26,283 --> 00:44:29,763
And at one point, she goes back to
Russia and she comes back to the UK,
573
00:44:29,763 --> 00:44:32,363
and starts expressing
an interest in going to America.
574
00:44:32,363 --> 00:44:35,163
And it does seem suspicious,
as if it might have been an order
575
00:44:35,163 --> 00:44:37,003
from Russian intelligence.
576
00:44:49,243 --> 00:44:52,483
Now I know a lot of people
introduce me to someone else,
577
00:44:52,483 --> 00:44:54,403
and those introduce me
to someone else.
578
00:44:54,403 --> 00:44:58,323
So now I know where to go
if I have something to solve.
579
00:44:59,763 --> 00:45:02,443
She has the ability of someone
580
00:45:02,443 --> 00:45:05,243
to engage with influencers
in Washington,
581
00:45:05,243 --> 00:45:07,523
and to gain the ear of individuals.
582
00:45:08,963 --> 00:45:12,803
So there's often deception
in different elements of spying.
583
00:45:12,803 --> 00:45:15,083
It's not necessarily about
trying to steal secrets
584
00:45:15,083 --> 00:45:18,243
from people in government in the way
that, for instance, Kim Philby did.
585
00:45:18,243 --> 00:45:20,523
It's about spotting people
who are influential,
586
00:45:20,523 --> 00:45:22,643
who are on their way up,
who know the gossip,
587
00:45:22,643 --> 00:45:23,923
who know the inside track.
588
00:45:23,923 --> 00:45:27,243
It's about reporting back
on those people to Moscow.
589
00:45:32,003 --> 00:45:36,883
We do know that the US had sources
within Russian intelligence
590
00:45:36,883 --> 00:45:40,083
who were able to tip off
the United States
591
00:45:40,083 --> 00:45:45,083
about the presence of ten illegals
living in the United States.
592
00:45:46,323 --> 00:45:51,763
So while she was doing her spying,
they were watching her,
593
00:45:51,763 --> 00:45:54,163
they were surveilling her.
594
00:45:54,163 --> 00:45:57,923
The FBI and CIA decide
to move towards arresting
595
00:45:57,923 --> 00:45:59,683
those Russian spies in America.
596
00:45:59,683 --> 00:46:02,883
They round up the illegals,
including Anna Chapman.
597
00:46:04,283 --> 00:46:05,643
And so she was busted
598
00:46:05,643 --> 00:46:08,523
and repatriated back to Russia
in a spy swap.
599
00:46:12,723 --> 00:46:16,403
IN RUSSIAN:
600
00:47:06,923 --> 00:47:09,283
I did what I did not to make money,
601
00:47:09,283 --> 00:47:14,243
but to help prevent
the defeat of a new system.
602
00:47:14,243 --> 00:47:16,483
It came as an enormous surprise
603
00:47:16,483 --> 00:47:18,883
to the then-ministers
in the government.
604
00:47:18,883 --> 00:47:23,683
They'd no idea that this
individual had been identified
605
00:47:23,683 --> 00:47:26,763
as being a Soviet spy.
606
00:47:26,763 --> 00:47:31,923
I thought that perhaps
some of what I had access to
607
00:47:31,923 --> 00:47:35,803
might be useful in helping Russia
608
00:47:35,803 --> 00:47:41,043
to keep abreast of Britain,
America, and Germany.
609
00:47:41,043 --> 00:47:44,443
And it's a remarkable moment
because people are asking questions.
610
00:47:44,443 --> 00:47:46,683
Well, firstly, "Why did she do it?"
611
00:47:46,683 --> 00:47:50,043
Secondly, "Why was she not caught?"
612
00:47:55,563 --> 00:47:59,843
Her mother had been recruited
into Soviet intelligence,
613
00:47:59,843 --> 00:48:02,803
had been active
in the 1920s as a spy.
614
00:48:02,803 --> 00:48:07,483
So in a way, Melita Norwood
had been radicalised
615
00:48:07,483 --> 00:48:09,443
from a very, very early age.
616
00:48:10,883 --> 00:48:13,683
She was recruited in 1934,
617
00:48:13,683 --> 00:48:18,043
and, of course,
then she was only 22 years of age.
618
00:48:26,563 --> 00:48:29,803
Her position is working
as a secretary
619
00:48:29,803 --> 00:48:34,603
for a company engaged
on Tube Alloys, on nuclear research.
620
00:48:37,483 --> 00:48:41,083
This is a top-secret project.
It's the atomic bomb.
621
00:48:41,083 --> 00:48:44,403
Not even... You know, the Cabinet
doesn't know about it.
622
00:48:44,403 --> 00:48:47,683
She's sitting in the back room
taking notes,
623
00:48:47,683 --> 00:48:51,003
nobody really suspected her.
624
00:48:51,003 --> 00:48:56,043
Her lowly position means that she is
often underestimated
625
00:48:56,043 --> 00:48:59,363
in the information
she could collect.
626
00:48:59,363 --> 00:49:02,083
Actually, she's in a key position
as the secretary
627
00:49:02,083 --> 00:49:05,363
who can see all the information
and provide it to the Russians.
628
00:49:05,363 --> 00:49:10,563
NEWSREEL: Melita Norwood, now
87 years old, great grandmother.
629
00:49:10,563 --> 00:49:13,883
Yet it is claimed she was the
most important British female agent
630
00:49:13,883 --> 00:49:15,803
ever recruited by the KGB.
631
00:49:15,803 --> 00:49:20,083
In 1999, I telephone her
and she said,
632
00:49:20,083 --> 00:49:23,083
"Oh! I've been
a very, very naughty girl.
633
00:49:23,083 --> 00:49:27,923
"I'm afraid I've got the world's
press camped in my front garden
634
00:49:27,923 --> 00:49:30,323
"wanting to interview me
about my past."
635
00:49:30,323 --> 00:49:32,763
Which seems to have been
a bit colourful.
636
00:49:33,923 --> 00:49:36,283
When it emerged
that she had been a spy,
637
00:49:36,283 --> 00:49:38,883
there was this question
about what to do about it.
638
00:49:38,883 --> 00:49:42,123
And I think in MI5,
they clearly thought,
639
00:49:42,123 --> 00:49:45,163
"Well, she's old,
she's not active any more,
640
00:49:45,163 --> 00:49:48,563
"there's no risk,"
so nothing is done.
641
00:49:52,323 --> 00:49:57,083
The Soviet Union, the KGB,
were masters of using illegals.
642
00:49:57,083 --> 00:50:00,563
They really hold up these spies as,
if you like, the pinnacle of spying.
643
00:50:00,563 --> 00:50:03,963
Those people who are able
and willing to go under deep cover
644
00:50:03,963 --> 00:50:07,603
into the west or other countries,
potentially for decades.
645
00:50:09,603 --> 00:50:12,363
It is the undercover spy,
that sleeper,
646
00:50:12,363 --> 00:50:18,563
who the Soviets were very,
very good at putting in place,
647
00:50:18,563 --> 00:50:20,363
who were the most successful.
648
00:50:20,363 --> 00:50:25,483
And I wouldn't be surprised if
they were still capable of doing it.
649
00:50:25,483 --> 00:50:27,723
And still do so.
650
00:50:43,083 --> 00:50:47,083
HARRY FERGUSON: I would say the most
dangerous time is when your agent
651
00:50:47,083 --> 00:50:49,043
is trying to communicate
their intelligence.
652
00:50:49,043 --> 00:50:52,283
They may be photographing a document
or taking a sample.
653
00:50:52,283 --> 00:50:56,683
But the point where they have to
communicate that intelligence to you
654
00:50:56,683 --> 00:51:00,523
as the officer, so that you can
get it back, that's tricky
655
00:51:00,523 --> 00:51:02,123
because you might be being watched.
656
00:51:04,203 --> 00:51:06,763
If something goes wrong
and that person is discovered,
657
00:51:06,763 --> 00:51:10,283
it is the agent, really,
who's gonna face the consequences.
658
00:51:10,283 --> 00:51:13,963
What they often need to rely on
is their own wit and imagination
659
00:51:13,963 --> 00:51:17,323
in order to deal with the threats
that they face.
660
00:51:19,363 --> 00:51:22,403
If you're in a very hostile
environment and your cover is blown,
661
00:51:22,403 --> 00:51:24,123
you get out as quickly as possible
662
00:51:24,123 --> 00:51:26,163
and you will have
an exfiltration plan,
663
00:51:26,163 --> 00:51:28,523
which has been worked out
before the operation.
664
00:51:28,523 --> 00:51:32,523
It might be as simple as jump
in your car, drive to the border,
665
00:51:32,523 --> 00:51:34,403
just head straight over it.
666
00:51:35,963 --> 00:51:39,243
INGRAM: You'll have rehearsed it
on tabletops and all the rest of it,
667
00:51:39,243 --> 00:51:41,803
just to go through
all of the different stages.
668
00:51:41,803 --> 00:51:44,883
It happens with all of
the high-grade agents that are there
669
00:51:44,883 --> 00:51:48,043
that may be in a position where you
need to extract them.
670
00:52:15,603 --> 00:52:20,723
AIMEN: I received a text message
form an Al-Qaeda associate of mine.
671
00:52:20,723 --> 00:52:25,003
He was telling me, you know,
"Go to the Times Magazine website."
672
00:52:25,003 --> 00:52:28,483
It says, "Human intelligence source
uncover a plot
673
00:52:28,483 --> 00:52:33,483
"to attack a New York subway
using chemical weapons."
674
00:52:33,483 --> 00:52:35,763
And I realised, basically,
that I was the source.
675
00:52:40,683 --> 00:52:44,323
Aimen was, luckily,
out of Afghanistan,
676
00:52:44,323 --> 00:52:47,363
and out of Al-Qaeda's
immediate control.
677
00:52:49,243 --> 00:52:53,443
He was named in an article
that got published.
678
00:52:54,963 --> 00:52:59,723
It contained leaked intelligence
from the CIA
679
00:52:59,723 --> 00:53:01,963
and stupidly,
they used my first real name.
680
00:53:05,003 --> 00:53:06,963
There were clear suspicions
in Al-Qaeda,
681
00:53:06,963 --> 00:53:10,043
so they knew there was
a mole there somewhere.
682
00:53:10,043 --> 00:53:11,763
A group like Al-Qaeda is aware
683
00:53:11,763 --> 00:53:14,243
of the danger of infiltrators
in its ranks.
684
00:53:14,243 --> 00:53:16,323
And if Aimen Dean
had been discovered,
685
00:53:16,323 --> 00:53:18,163
he'd have almost certainly
been killed.
686
00:53:18,163 --> 00:53:20,403
There will have been contingency
plans put in place
687
00:53:20,403 --> 00:53:22,963
that he will have known
very little about,
688
00:53:22,963 --> 00:53:25,563
but they'll have all been
worked out beforehand
689
00:53:25,563 --> 00:53:28,323
as to how to potentially
get him out of there.
690
00:53:32,203 --> 00:53:35,283
I immediately called my handlers
back in London,
691
00:53:35,283 --> 00:53:38,243
even though it was Sunday,
and I was told basically that,
692
00:53:38,243 --> 00:53:40,923
"Sorry to tell you,
but your spying days are over."
693
00:53:48,843 --> 00:53:51,923
When you're sharing intelligence,
the intelligence comes out,
694
00:53:51,923 --> 00:53:54,763
you've got no indication
as to who the individual is,
695
00:53:54,763 --> 00:53:57,443
or the individuals are
that's supplying that intelligence.
696
00:53:57,443 --> 00:53:59,403
National agencies,
when they get jealous,
697
00:53:59,403 --> 00:54:02,003
will task some of their team
to find out who it is.
698
00:54:02,003 --> 00:54:06,523
And I think that's how Aimen's name
then got into discussion.
699
00:54:06,523 --> 00:54:10,283
And it's very dangerous, and that's
almost certainly what happened here.
700
00:54:15,763 --> 00:54:19,243
Given the fact that I caused
the death of at least one or two
701
00:54:19,243 --> 00:54:23,723
of their senior leaders
in Saudi Arabia, I would say yes,
702
00:54:23,723 --> 00:54:27,523
they are angry,
enough to try to kill me twice.
703
00:54:28,563 --> 00:54:32,843
Betraying them is an act of honour,
not an act of dishonour.
704
00:55:15,523 --> 00:55:18,123
CORERA: The evidence
is strong enough that MI6
705
00:55:18,123 --> 00:55:20,443
can no longer really resist
706
00:55:20,443 --> 00:55:22,723
the thing that they've been trying
to deny for so long,
707
00:55:22,723 --> 00:55:26,563
that this man who'd worked
at the very heart of MI6
708
00:55:26,563 --> 00:55:27,923
is actually a spy.
709
00:55:29,923 --> 00:55:32,683
And one of Philby's friends,
Nicholas Elliott,
710
00:55:32,683 --> 00:55:36,203
is sent out to Beirut, where
Philby is living, to confront him.
711
00:55:36,203 --> 00:55:39,603
WEST: Nicholas Elliott said that
when he knocked on the door,
712
00:55:39,603 --> 00:55:43,563
Philby had said the equivalent of,
"What took you so long?"
713
00:55:43,563 --> 00:55:46,683
He was offered an immunity
from prosecution
714
00:55:46,683 --> 00:55:50,723
by the Attorney General,
which he accepted.
715
00:55:50,723 --> 00:55:52,523
And he then made a confession.
716
00:55:54,363 --> 00:55:55,723
It does look like Philby
717
00:55:55,723 --> 00:55:58,643
still manages to pull the wool
over his friend's eyes
718
00:55:58,643 --> 00:56:01,083
and convinces him
that he's willing to talk
719
00:56:01,083 --> 00:56:04,403
and that perhaps there's some kind
of deal to be done.
720
00:56:04,403 --> 00:56:08,483
But a few days after having
handed that confession,
721
00:56:08,483 --> 00:56:10,483
he simply disappeared.
722
00:56:24,283 --> 00:56:29,283
QUESTIONER: Do you think MI6 wanted
Philby to escape from Beirut?
723
00:56:29,283 --> 00:56:32,083
No, I don't think so,
724
00:56:32,083 --> 00:56:36,843
because they wanted him
to collaborate with them again.
725
00:56:38,403 --> 00:56:43,963
And therefore, we decided to
take him away from Beirut by boat.
726
00:56:45,283 --> 00:56:49,923
He collected his things,
he didn't say goodbye to his wife.
727
00:56:55,283 --> 00:56:57,523
CHARLOTTE: I've spent a lot of time
trying to imagine
728
00:56:57,523 --> 00:57:01,083
how he must have felt boarding
that freight liner in Beirut
729
00:57:01,083 --> 00:57:04,483
to Moscow, knowing that he could
never come back.
730
00:57:04,483 --> 00:57:06,963
Knowing that his children
and his friends and everyone
731
00:57:06,963 --> 00:57:08,403
would soon know the truth.
732
00:57:20,683 --> 00:57:24,443
He was reserving a whole part
of himself and his life
733
00:57:24,443 --> 00:57:27,803
and keeping that secret
from his wife and his children.
734
00:57:27,803 --> 00:57:33,243
And the mental impact that
must have, I just think is huge.
735
00:57:35,123 --> 00:57:37,723
Can you imagine waking up
every morning and...
736
00:57:37,723 --> 00:57:40,443
and just having that moment
of worrying
737
00:57:40,443 --> 00:57:42,843
that you might have said something
738
00:57:42,843 --> 00:57:45,443
that would give you away
as a traitor?
739
00:58:05,723 --> 00:58:08,243
Deception has always been
at the heart of spying
740
00:58:08,243 --> 00:58:12,043
because spies work by hiding
who they really are.
741
00:58:13,523 --> 00:58:16,643
Is it intelligence?
Is it covert action?
742
00:58:16,643 --> 00:58:18,483
It's a little bit
of all those things,
743
00:58:18,483 --> 00:58:24,123
which is why deception is such
a challenging area of spy artistry.
744
00:58:26,363 --> 00:58:29,523
If you think of the stakes,
you'll tighten up.
745
00:58:29,523 --> 00:58:33,643
You've got to act naturally,
while at the same time,
746
00:58:33,643 --> 00:58:36,443
doing one of the most
unnatural things in the world.
747
00:58:38,323 --> 00:58:42,963
The profession exists to intrude
covertly into other people's lives,
748
00:58:42,963 --> 00:58:44,923
to collect information about them,
749
00:58:44,923 --> 00:58:49,083
to understand the risk that
that person might pose.
750
00:58:51,643 --> 00:58:55,203
This is a crucial part of the job
which has remained unchanged.
751
00:59:03,323 --> 00:59:07,843
Assassination is something
that any service could do,
752
00:59:07,843 --> 00:59:09,763
but doesn't necessarily have to do.
753
00:59:09,763 --> 00:59:12,323
There was enough Novichok there
754
00:59:12,323 --> 00:59:15,483
to kill tens, if not hundreds
of thousands of people.
755
00:59:15,483 --> 00:59:19,923
Putin and Litvinenko themselves
are personal enemies.
756
00:59:19,923 --> 00:59:21,963
The order is kill Litvinenko.
757
00:59:21,963 --> 00:59:24,003
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