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(rattling)
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(door opening)
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(meowing)
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They were just found
loose in the plant.
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Yeah, our forklift guy,
he thought it was rats.
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(meowing)
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Adorable, right?
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How old are you?
You look like my other babies.
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Yeah, you have teeth.
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Good baby.
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So, somehow they’re
making their way in here,
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and they’re having their litters
or they’re being dropped off.
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We used to take them home,
but we can’t take them all home.
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-That’s the problem.
-I know.
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(meowing)
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(forklift beeping)
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(meowing)
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(thudding)
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(engine starting)
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(cat cooing)
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(birds chirping)
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(whirring)
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It is a feline free for all
in Cornwall,
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as feral cats have
taken over neighborhoods.
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They may be cuddly and cute,
but in Cornwall feral cats
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have become a big problem.
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They’re breeding and feeding,
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and they’re using
the whole street
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as a litter box.
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Some residents
are embracing the cats,
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leaving food around.
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Well, getting everyone
to agree on a solution
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is much like herding cats.
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Residents and volunteers alike
just want the city
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to stop pussyfooting around.
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It’s a catastrophe.
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The city of Cornwall
dropped the ball many years ago.
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There should have been money
into the budget every year.
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We wouldn’t be
in this predicament now.
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We wouldn’t be.
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I am Mary Jane Proulx
from Cornwall, Ontario.
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Lived here all my life.
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Growing up I had rabbits
and guinea pigs,
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and all kinds of animals.
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I remember trying
to save little birds
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whenever I was,
like, 8 years old.
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No, they all died,
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but at least
I tried to save them.
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I do the right thing,
and I expect everybody else
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to do the right thing
and I get very, very mad
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when people don’t do
the right thing.
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I want to slap people sometimes,
but I don’t.
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I love cats, and I don’t want
cats to be poisoned,
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or to be, you know,
shot or trapped,
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and whatever done to it.
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It’s not their fault
why they’re out there right now.
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Something has to be done.
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So, I started
my own organization
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called Cat Trap,
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and we believe
in the program TNR,
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trap, neuter, and return.
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After we bring them to the vet,
we put them back out
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where we got them from,
into the colonies.
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Because they’re all together,
they’re all like family.
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I think the first time we did
any trapping was like 15 cats.
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That was, like, wow,
it was quite amazing,
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and then it just
snowballed after that.
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I wanna help people.
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So, my name is out there.
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I like to knock on doors,
I like to talk to people.
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Well, I mean, I have
a nice piece of property here,
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and I got cats
pooping all over it.
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I got a cute little dog,
likes to roll in it,
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and I don’t think it’s right.
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I pay high taxes, and I expect
some stuff cleaned up,
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and they’re not doing it.
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I called the city and said,
"What are you gonna do
with these cats?"
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They turned around, told me
they have a bylaw for dogs
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but not for cats.
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I told them, "Bullshit,"
and hung up.
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We found ’em dead
on the lawn right there,
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some babies and that.
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We found some babies
over there on the track line.
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He’s found some dead ones
on his property over there.
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It’s too bad, you know,
just cats all over.
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It’s frustrating.
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I’ve dealt with neighbors
fighting with each other.
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That’s not good, you don’t wanna
fight with your neighbor
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over something like that.
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It’s not the cats’ fault,
it’s our fault.
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Let’s take responsibility now.
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That’s okay.
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Hear that noise,
it’s okay, you’re okay.
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So, Mellissa, she’s awesome,
I call her my other daughter.
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I do.
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She’s a hard, hard worker.
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She’s doing her rescue
all on her own.
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Plus, she works.
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She just loves animals,
it’s just DNA.
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Yeah.
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We don’t want
fleas on your face.
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(water streaming)
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I’ve rescued several litters
from the dump,
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and they call me, "Can you come
pick up these kittens?"
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Or, "Can I bring them to you?"
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My name’s Mellissa, I run
Tiny But Mighty Kitten Rescue,
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and I save kittens.
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Cats specifically,
I mean, at least in Cornwall,
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the city doesn’t fund
to help them,
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and a lot of people find
that the cats are disposable.
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Kitten gets old, not as cute,
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put them outside,
they’re not fixed.
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What do you think happens?
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I get a lot of messages,
a minimum of 5 per day of,
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"Can you take
this kitten I found?"
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So, if I have space,
I can take them.
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First, get them spayed,
neutered, vaccinated,
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dewormed, microchipped,
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and then I find
families for them.
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I don’t have a clue
how many litters I’ve saved.
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I lost track.
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(meowing)
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(flags flapping)
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There has always been
a large number of cats
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in this area,
and it’s primarily due to
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the lack of spaying
and neutering.
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My name’s Bonnie Bishop,
and I’m an associate director
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with the Ontario SPCA.
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♪
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We call ourselves here
an animal shelter,
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and we have 12 of them
across the province of Ontario.
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(indistinct remarks)
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In this community, for example,
we have been inundated
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with a large number of cats
for many years.
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We represent 30 percent
of the intake of cats
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in the province of Ontario.
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(dogs barking)
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We have limited cage space here,
and we’ve had days where people
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have shown up with up to
as many as 20 cats,
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and think that we can
take those animals in
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on that given day.
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Here in Cornwall,
there’s no program currently
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that the city runs
to pick up stray cats,
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so the public
literally picks them up
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and brings them in to us.
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We talk to a lot of people
that come in,
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and when we had a waitlist,
say, "Ah, just gonna go
dump it somewhere. "
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Not acceptable, it’s not
acceptable to dump an animal.
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Those animals, they become
prey for something else.
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And also, they are now
being forced to hunt
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and fend for themselves
in a way that they’ve never
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had to do before.
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No, I believe
cats should be indoors.
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(meowing)
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(purring)
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The domestic cats
that we have in our homes,
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we see them in our house
as being this loveable,
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adorable creature,
and then we put them outside.
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They engage in
very similar behaviors
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to what wild cats would do.
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-I keep getting this cat.
-Yeah.
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That’s a new one.
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My name is Elizabeth Gow,
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and I study what cats do
when we can’t find them,
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and I do that using a variety
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of different
specialized cameras.
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(photos snapping)
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They can get up to
all kinds of mayhem.
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They can cross busy roads.
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They can go into sewer drains,
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climb trees, stalk,
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kill animals.
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And so, on one of the concerns
with cats is their impacts
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on biodiversity.
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They are not from here,
and when they’re outside,
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they are technically
an invasive species.
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They engage in
very similar behaviors
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to what wild cats would do.
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So, they will hunt animals
when they find them.
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(cat snarling)
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(bird crying)
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(snarling)
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(rustling)
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It’s a golden crowned kinglet.
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This tiny little one here.
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♪
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So, and here is
a little warbler,
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the northern perulla.
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It’s got a little
golden chest here.
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Well, cats will eat
just about any bird
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they can get near.
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Brown creeper,
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so named ’cause it
goes up the tree trunk.
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A woodpecker.
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In Canada alone,
about 250 million,
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250 million birds
are killed every year
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by domestic cats.
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I’m Bridget Stutchbury,
my specialty is studying
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migratory songbirds
to understand
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why their populations
are declining
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and what we can do to help them.
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(birds chirping)
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Birds are what I call
blue collar workers.
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They move seeds around,
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they eat insects, and if
they weren’t eating the insects,
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the insects’ populations
are gonna explode
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and damage the trees.
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And, so, when you take,
like, a really important player
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in an ecosystem,
and just take it out altogether,
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then things are going to
change in that ecosystem.
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The forest won’t be as healthy,
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the air won’t be as clean.
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You can have
this huge cascading effect.
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(thudding)
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(bird chirping)
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Well, it’s not simply a matter
of there being no birds.
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Cats certainly hunt
native small mammal species.
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So, these are native mice,
chipmunks, small rodents,
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rabbits, all kinds
of small animals.
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They also can transmit diseases.
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One is feline leukemia virus.
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So, they might be able
to transfer into
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wild cat populations.
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These are cougars,
and bobcats, and lynx.
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But, I don’t think that people
are really paying attention
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to the problem.
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The impacts of cats are
really, really massive.
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We need to not be losing species
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to maintain
our own health as humans.
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I am part
of the Canadian task force.
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We’re trying to find
the best solutions
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to solve this cat problem
that we have.
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The first step in any sort
of management undertaking
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is to know, well,
where is the problem?
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There’s typically
more cats in areas
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where there’s more poverty.
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People don’t tend to spay
and neuter their cats
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when they can’t afford it.
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And also are more likely
to put their cats outside.
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And if you think of a cat
produces anywhere from
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2 to upwards of 18 offspring,
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that’s a lot
of cats and kittens.
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(meowing)
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♪
266
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(meowing)
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♪
268
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(beeping)
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♪
270
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(beeping)
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(meowing)
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♪
273
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(whirring)
274
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(water streaming)
275
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(clinking)
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(whirring)
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♪
278
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(meowing)
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♪
280
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I actually learned
by watching videos online,
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for the most part.
282
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I had my vet train me
in certain things.
283
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Besides that, though,
I learned it all online.
284
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♪
285
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(meowing)
286
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You ready, babe?
287
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Here you go, love, here, no.
288
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♪
289
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These guys were orphaned
at 2 weeks old.
290
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(slurping)
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They were actually
in decent shape,
292
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but usually they don’t come
in great shape when I get them.
293
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(purring)
294
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Are you purring?
295
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Good boy.
296
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She’s Maisie, the only girl.
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There’s Flynn.
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Nicky, and the big one, Logan.
299
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And Jackson.
300
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Is that you?
301
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(kissing)
302
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Crazy boy.
303
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(zipping)
304
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Who’s next?
305
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I only need one kid.
306
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Oh, one kid.
307
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Watch out.
308
00:13:36,816 --> 00:13:38,776
Oh.
309
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I mean, it’s nonstop.
310
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I bottle feed
every four hours right now,
311
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so it’s never ending.
312
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Literally never ending.
313
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And I even do this while
I am supposed to be working.
314
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Oh.
315
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I love it for the most part.
316
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Sometimes it’s stressful,
like when they
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aspirate on their milk,
318
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or if there ’s
a medical problem.
319
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But, when they’re
healthy like this,
320
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it’s pretty easy.
321
00:14:02,216 --> 00:14:04,677
(purring)
322
00:14:04,677 --> 00:14:06,054
What do you want?
323
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You already ate.
324
00:14:07,680 --> 00:14:10,767
♪
325
00:14:10,767 --> 00:14:13,227
When they leave, it’s, like,
really heartbreaking,
326
00:14:13,227 --> 00:14:14,687
but ultimately,
I guess, worth it
327
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because they find forever homes.
328
00:14:16,647 --> 00:14:18,691
♪
329
00:14:18,691 --> 00:14:21,319
You get attached,
that’s for sure.
330
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Are you done?
331
00:14:23,863 --> 00:14:25,531
Geez,
332
00:14:25,531 --> 00:14:27,492
that was so much.
333
00:14:27,492 --> 00:14:29,577
Okay, you’re done.
334
00:14:29,577 --> 00:14:32,705
♪
335
00:14:32,705 --> 00:14:35,208
(meowing)
336
00:14:35,208 --> 00:14:40,922
♪
337
00:14:40,922 --> 00:14:43,341
(purring)
338
00:14:48,387 --> 00:14:50,890
(birds chirping)
339
00:14:50,890 --> 00:15:00,733
♪
340
00:15:11,744 --> 00:15:13,704
Feral cats
are certainly something
341
00:15:13,704 --> 00:15:15,957
myself as an ecologist
are concerned about,
342
00:15:15,957 --> 00:15:20,253
because they will hunt
many, many animals a day,
343
00:15:20,253 --> 00:15:21,879
because they have to eat them
344
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much, much more
than an owned cat.
345
00:15:25,174 --> 00:15:26,676
No, I don’t think
there is sort of
346
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a one-size-fits-all solution
to try to reduce
347
00:15:29,262 --> 00:15:32,890
the number of cats that are
not owned that run wild,
348
00:15:32,890 --> 00:15:34,392
the stray and feral cats.
349
00:15:34,392 --> 00:15:36,435
There’s a few
different strategies,
350
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one being euthanasia.
351
00:15:39,355 --> 00:15:41,566
Trap, neuter, release, or TNR,
352
00:15:41,566 --> 00:15:44,527
and that involves capturing cats
and neutering them,
353
00:15:44,527 --> 00:15:46,737
so they can’t reproduce,
vaccinating them,
354
00:15:46,737 --> 00:15:48,489
and then returning them.
355
00:15:48,489 --> 00:15:50,158
(purring)
356
00:15:50,158 --> 00:15:52,451
(birds chirping)
357
00:15:52,451 --> 00:15:54,453
A lot of people in Cornwall
want to put them down,
358
00:15:54,453 --> 00:15:56,038
they want to euthanize.
359
00:15:56,038 --> 00:15:57,832
I don’t agree with that.
360
00:15:57,832 --> 00:16:00,751
(whirring)
361
00:16:00,751 --> 00:16:10,761
♪
362
00:16:10,761 --> 00:16:13,306
Even though there’s only
two of us, it didn’t matter.
363
00:16:13,306 --> 00:16:14,932
We had signs, we walked in.
364
00:16:14,932 --> 00:16:16,642
We were sort of
making a lot of noise,
365
00:16:16,642 --> 00:16:19,812
so then all of the media
came out started to talk to us
366
00:16:19,812 --> 00:16:22,481
because we had our signs,
and we had the kitten.
367
00:16:22,481 --> 00:16:24,066
They wanted to know,
"Why are you here?"
368
00:16:24,066 --> 00:16:25,359
-You know?
-And, "Why are you bringing
369
00:16:25,359 --> 00:16:27,111
-a kitten?"
-Yeah, so we continued
370
00:16:27,111 --> 00:16:29,822
-every two weeks.
-Yep.
371
00:16:29,822 --> 00:16:33,075
Whenever we did protest
we had like 300 comments,
372
00:16:33,075 --> 00:16:35,953
250 probably against us.
373
00:16:35,953 --> 00:16:37,413
So, that means
they’re not really thinking
374
00:16:37,413 --> 00:16:38,789
outside of the box.
375
00:16:38,789 --> 00:16:40,875
I want people to think
outside the box.
376
00:16:40,875 --> 00:16:45,922
♪
377
00:16:45,922 --> 00:16:48,549
Will they back down?
Will they support us?
378
00:16:48,549 --> 00:16:49,967
Time will tell.
379
00:16:49,967 --> 00:16:51,844
But, if they don’t, if they say,
"Oh, okay, no,
380
00:16:51,844 --> 00:16:54,096
we don’t have the money,"
whatever, we will continue
381
00:16:54,096 --> 00:16:55,473
what we have been doing.
382
00:16:55,473 --> 00:16:57,183
We are not gonna let this go
383
00:16:57,183 --> 00:16:59,352
until there is money
in the budget.
384
00:16:59,352 --> 00:17:01,270
-Agree? I agree.
-Agreed.
385
00:17:01,270 --> 00:17:02,730
Yeah.
386
00:17:02,730 --> 00:17:05,316
(whirring)
387
00:17:05,316 --> 00:17:07,443
There are some people
in any community of course
388
00:17:07,443 --> 00:17:10,154
who would say, well, you know,
hate to put it this way,
389
00:17:10,154 --> 00:17:12,073
but, "Shoot them. "
390
00:17:12,073 --> 00:17:14,116
We’ve moved beyond that,
I’m sorry.
391
00:17:14,116 --> 00:17:16,786
My name is Christopher Rogers,
I am the supervisor
392
00:17:16,786 --> 00:17:18,579
by-law enforcement
for the city of Cornwall.
393
00:17:18,579 --> 00:17:20,539
♪
394
00:17:20,539 --> 00:17:22,333
It’s easy to assess that
395
00:17:22,333 --> 00:17:23,709
this is something unique
to this community.
396
00:17:23,709 --> 00:17:25,086
It is not.
397
00:17:25,086 --> 00:17:27,338
The other municipalities
have set up programs,
398
00:17:27,338 --> 00:17:29,215
usually subsidized programs,
so let’s be real,
399
00:17:29,215 --> 00:17:30,675
it’s about money.
400
00:17:30,675 --> 00:17:40,601
♪
401
00:17:42,186 --> 00:17:46,023
Calgary is celebrated
as a prime example
402
00:17:46,023 --> 00:17:49,026
of what it takes to manage
403
00:17:49,026 --> 00:17:51,570
and stabilize cat populations.
404
00:17:51,570 --> 00:17:53,698
They have ample resources.
405
00:17:53,698 --> 00:17:55,741
They’re a rich city.
406
00:17:55,741 --> 00:17:57,243
We are not Calgary.
407
00:17:57,243 --> 00:17:58,953
(whirring)
408
00:17:58,953 --> 00:18:03,082
Simply not a matter of helping
to support TNR programs.
409
00:18:03,082 --> 00:18:05,584
It comes down to, I believe,
financial ability.
410
00:18:05,584 --> 00:18:07,086
(engine puttering)
411
00:18:07,086 --> 00:18:10,631
Cornwall was formerly
a heavy industrial town.
412
00:18:10,631 --> 00:18:12,049
That is no more.
413
00:18:12,049 --> 00:18:14,510
Those very-well-paying jobs
are gone.
414
00:18:14,510 --> 00:18:16,178
(beeping)
415
00:18:16,178 --> 00:18:17,763
And again, we’re talking about
setting aside
416
00:18:17,763 --> 00:18:20,433
fair chunks of change
to deal with cats,
417
00:18:20,433 --> 00:18:21,934
when there are people
in this city
418
00:18:21,934 --> 00:18:24,729
who have to decide
whether they want
419
00:18:24,729 --> 00:18:26,480
to pay the rent or eat.
420
00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,566
(chewing)
421
00:18:28,566 --> 00:18:31,360
(clinking)
422
00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:34,613
(whirring)
423
00:18:34,613 --> 00:18:36,907
(clicking)
424
00:18:36,907 --> 00:18:42,663
♪
425
00:18:42,663 --> 00:18:45,750
(thudding)
426
00:18:45,750 --> 00:18:49,170
(clinking)
427
00:18:49,170 --> 00:18:53,090
So, for my rescue, people can
drop off empties and donations,
428
00:18:53,090 --> 00:18:55,092
which helps pay the vet bills.
429
00:18:55,092 --> 00:18:56,510
(clinking)
430
00:18:56,510 --> 00:18:58,637
Big ones are worth 20 cents.
431
00:18:58,637 --> 00:19:01,098
Small ones are worth 10 cents.
432
00:19:01,098 --> 00:19:02,350
So, every bit helps.
433
00:19:02,350 --> 00:19:05,186
And, um, yeah, cash them in.
434
00:19:05,186 --> 00:19:08,606
(clinking)
435
00:19:08,606 --> 00:19:11,359
♪
436
00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,611
It costs a lot to run a rescue
when you’re one person
437
00:19:13,611 --> 00:19:15,237
doing it yourself.
438
00:19:15,237 --> 00:19:16,739
But, here we are.
439
00:19:16,739 --> 00:19:18,324
I mean, hopefully
this city steps up
440
00:19:18,324 --> 00:19:20,284
and helps people like me
441
00:19:20,284 --> 00:19:23,204
who are trying
to do their part, I guess.
442
00:19:23,204 --> 00:19:31,170
♪
443
00:19:31,170 --> 00:19:33,839
I don’t know what it is,
but it’s half rewarding
444
00:19:33,839 --> 00:19:35,299
and half devastating.
445
00:19:35,299 --> 00:19:37,676
So, I do rescue and I go home.
446
00:19:37,676 --> 00:19:40,429
Like, I don’t have
a social life or anything,
447
00:19:40,429 --> 00:19:42,890
so, kittens.
448
00:19:44,975 --> 00:19:47,228
(rattling)
449
00:19:47,228 --> 00:19:49,563
(whirring)
450
00:19:52,149 --> 00:19:53,776
She’s a fighter,
she’s a big fighter.
451
00:19:53,776 --> 00:19:55,694
She’s like, what, 27 maybe.
452
00:19:55,694 --> 00:19:58,864
I don’t think I was that much
of a fighter at that age.
453
00:19:58,864 --> 00:20:01,909
I’m learning, as she’s learning,
that we have one fight.
454
00:20:01,909 --> 00:20:04,537
That’s to help
the cats in Cornwall.
455
00:20:04,537 --> 00:20:08,290
♪
456
00:20:08,290 --> 00:20:11,168
The problem started in East End.
457
00:20:11,168 --> 00:20:13,838
Low income area unfortunately.
458
00:20:13,838 --> 00:20:16,340
And if they’re not fixed,
you’re gonna have kittens,
459
00:20:16,340 --> 00:20:18,384
and kittens, kittens. .
that’s the problem.
460
00:20:18,384 --> 00:20:19,844
(meowing)
461
00:20:19,844 --> 00:20:21,846
Some people
still aren’t getting it,
462
00:20:21,846 --> 00:20:23,722
which is very maddening to us.
463
00:20:23,722 --> 00:20:25,599
And we see things
more than the councilors,
464
00:20:25,599 --> 00:20:27,435
like, they have no idea.
465
00:20:27,435 --> 00:20:28,853
You know, a couple of them said,
"Well, it’s not
466
00:20:28,853 --> 00:20:30,688
in my neighborhood,"
but if you don’t fix
467
00:20:30,688 --> 00:20:33,065
the problem now,
it will be in your neighborhood.
468
00:20:34,692 --> 00:20:36,861
So, whenever it all
came about with the cats,
469
00:20:36,861 --> 00:20:39,947
I thought to myself,
"How can I make people talk?
470
00:20:39,947 --> 00:20:41,824
How can I make people talk?"
471
00:20:41,824 --> 00:20:45,870
♪
472
00:20:45,870 --> 00:20:47,413
I’m gonna run.
473
00:20:47,413 --> 00:20:51,041
I’m gonna run
for municipal election.
474
00:20:51,041 --> 00:20:52,501
I had one sign.
475
00:20:52,501 --> 00:20:55,296
This is my one election sign
right here.
476
00:20:55,296 --> 00:20:56,839
And I put the sign all over,
477
00:20:56,839 --> 00:20:58,591
and then people will think,
"Oh, my God,
478
00:20:58,591 --> 00:21:01,343
she has all these signs" .
no, I only had one sign, okay.
479
00:21:01,343 --> 00:21:04,597
-You ready?
-There we go.
480
00:21:04,597 --> 00:21:06,098
Easy come, easy go.
481
00:21:06,098 --> 00:21:08,601
♪
482
00:21:08,601 --> 00:21:10,394
And I had one ad
in the newspaper,
483
00:21:10,394 --> 00:21:12,521
which was amazing,
because usually
484
00:21:12,521 --> 00:21:14,690
the people would have a picture
of their face, you know.
485
00:21:14,690 --> 00:21:18,194
No, no, not me, I had a picture
of a bloody cat in a trap.
486
00:21:18,194 --> 00:21:20,154
♪
487
00:21:20,154 --> 00:21:22,907
As I said, a vote for me
was a vote for the cats.
488
00:21:22,907 --> 00:21:25,451
Got a couple emails saying,
"Oh, my God, I can’t believe
489
00:21:25,451 --> 00:21:27,286
you’re running
just on this platform,"
490
00:21:27,286 --> 00:21:29,038
and I said, "Yes, yes, I am. "
491
00:21:29,038 --> 00:21:30,372
But, that was fine,
you’re gonna
492
00:21:30,372 --> 00:21:32,124
have haters everywhere.
493
00:21:32,124 --> 00:21:33,542
You just deal with ’em.
494
00:21:33,542 --> 00:21:36,629
♪
495
00:21:36,629 --> 00:21:38,839
Time to go find out
the election results.
496
00:21:38,839 --> 00:21:40,674
♪
497
00:21:40,674 --> 00:21:41,967
We’re doing well, we are.
498
00:21:41,967 --> 00:21:43,511
I wanted 400.
499
00:21:43,511 --> 00:21:45,054
This is awesome.
500
00:21:45,054 --> 00:21:47,515
I know I’m not gonna get in.
501
00:21:47,515 --> 00:21:49,433
I knew that from the beginning,
but this is
502
00:21:49,433 --> 00:21:52,937
an awareness campaign,
and this is where we’re at.
503
00:21:52,937 --> 00:21:55,856
So, we were looking
at the screen, Mellissa and I,
504
00:21:55,856 --> 00:21:58,400
and, "Oh, my God,
it’s going up. "
505
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,694
♪
506
00:22:00,694 --> 00:22:02,988
I was hoping maybe
for 500 votes,
507
00:22:02,988 --> 00:22:05,783
and I got 1,532 votes
508
00:22:05,783 --> 00:22:09,036
all over my one platform.
509
00:22:09,036 --> 00:22:11,914
So, that was pretty good,
got people talking.
510
00:22:11,914 --> 00:22:13,999
♪
511
00:22:13,999 --> 00:22:16,043
Well, there should be a program
where they at least
512
00:22:16,043 --> 00:22:18,295
capture them
and spay or neuter them,
513
00:22:18,295 --> 00:22:20,756
and, uh, you know,
but they don’t.
514
00:22:20,756 --> 00:22:22,841
Seems like
it’s a never-ending circle
515
00:22:22,841 --> 00:22:25,052
for years and years,
and honestly,
516
00:22:25,052 --> 00:22:27,888
I think that by now
it would change
517
00:22:27,888 --> 00:22:30,057
much more than this.
518
00:22:30,057 --> 00:22:32,935
-That’s minor.
-I think there’s a lot
519
00:22:32,935 --> 00:22:35,646
more important things
to be looking at
520
00:22:35,646 --> 00:22:38,399
than cats.
521
00:22:38,399 --> 00:22:40,150
Well, my way
of looking at them is,
522
00:22:40,150 --> 00:22:41,610
they’re better
to put them to sleep
523
00:22:41,610 --> 00:22:44,822
than
letting ’em die cruelly
524
00:22:44,822 --> 00:22:47,533
Last time it was pigeons,
four years ago,
525
00:22:47,533 --> 00:22:51,036
and now it’s cats,
so we have all nature,
526
00:22:51,036 --> 00:22:53,747
creatures we have to deal with.
527
00:22:53,747 --> 00:22:56,250
If you own a cat,
they should be in the house,
528
00:22:56,250 --> 00:22:58,836
and you should take them
to the vet regularly.
529
00:22:58,836 --> 00:23:00,671
But, a lot of people
don’t think that way,
530
00:23:00,671 --> 00:23:02,548
you know, they believe,
eh, should be outside,
531
00:23:02,548 --> 00:23:05,426
and they don’t
really care for them.
532
00:23:05,426 --> 00:23:07,386
♪
533
00:23:07,386 --> 00:23:09,805
Well, I’d like for the city
to be involved in it
534
00:23:09,805 --> 00:23:12,057
and get them fixed.
535
00:23:12,057 --> 00:23:13,517
Right now
they’re doing nothing at all.
536
00:23:13,517 --> 00:23:15,185
It’s just going out of control.
537
00:23:15,185 --> 00:23:17,354
They wanna
talk about feral cats,
538
00:23:17,354 --> 00:23:21,108
talk. . okay, talk about bugs.
539
00:23:21,108 --> 00:23:24,528
Do you think Cornwall
has a problem with cats?
540
00:23:24,528 --> 00:23:28,198
No, I would say we have
a problem with people.
541
00:23:28,198 --> 00:23:30,492
♪
542
00:23:30,492 --> 00:23:34,747
They’ll end up staying in
that pile of a mess over there.
543
00:23:34,747 --> 00:23:36,290
Unwanted cats.
544
00:23:36,290 --> 00:23:38,375
So, we put food and water,
545
00:23:38,375 --> 00:23:41,003
because I can’t let them starve.
546
00:23:41,003 --> 00:23:42,838
♪
547
00:23:42,838 --> 00:23:45,883
When I look into their eyes,
it’s like I feel like
548
00:23:45,883 --> 00:23:48,677
I can see their soul,
and I feel like
549
00:23:48,677 --> 00:23:50,679
their loneliness or their pain,
550
00:23:50,679 --> 00:23:52,848
and I just. . I just have to help.
551
00:23:55,893 --> 00:23:58,187
Typically invasive species
are viewed as being
552
00:23:58,187 --> 00:23:59,730
quite harmful.
553
00:23:59,730 --> 00:24:01,398
But, unfortunately,
how we view cats
554
00:24:01,398 --> 00:24:03,317
is much different
’cause our deep connection
555
00:24:03,317 --> 00:24:05,736
with our pets.
556
00:24:05,736 --> 00:24:08,614
It’s very easy for me to say,
"Go keep your cat inside. "
557
00:24:08,614 --> 00:24:11,200
But, the reality is that
that’s not always easy.
558
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,618
We’re working
with human behavior,
559
00:24:12,618 --> 00:24:14,411
and we’re also working
with cat behavior,
560
00:24:14,411 --> 00:24:17,039
and that’s what makes them
a very complicated
561
00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:20,250
and complex conservation issue.
562
00:24:20,250 --> 00:24:22,836
In neighborhoods where people
don’t have a lot of money,
563
00:24:22,836 --> 00:24:24,588
these neighborhoods
may benefit from
564
00:24:24,588 --> 00:24:27,299
subsidized spay and neuter,
565
00:24:27,299 --> 00:24:29,968
and also education campaigns
that are targeted
566
00:24:29,968 --> 00:24:31,762
in those neighborhoods
that can help reduce
567
00:24:31,762 --> 00:24:34,181
the number of cats
that are being thrown outside.
568
00:24:34,181 --> 00:24:36,517
♪
569
00:24:36,517 --> 00:24:39,019
(meowing)
570
00:24:39,019 --> 00:24:41,647
♪
571
00:24:41,647 --> 00:24:44,066
(whirring)
572
00:24:46,902 --> 00:24:48,904
The neighbors here next door
573
00:24:48,904 --> 00:24:51,782
were furious about the cats.
574
00:24:51,782 --> 00:24:54,660
Didn’t want me feeding ’em,
nothing,
575
00:24:54,660 --> 00:24:58,997
and they eventually
had to move away.
576
00:24:58,997 --> 00:25:01,500
It was the fact
that a pair of kittens
577
00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:04,211
came along
and were looking for food,
578
00:25:04,211 --> 00:25:07,506
and then I had five kittens
come along looking for food,
579
00:25:07,506 --> 00:25:09,383
and I fed them.
580
00:25:09,383 --> 00:25:10,968
That’s how it started.
581
00:25:10,968 --> 00:25:13,512
♪
582
00:25:13,512 --> 00:25:15,848
Twice a day
that I come down with a dish
583
00:25:15,848 --> 00:25:17,975
of dry and wet food.
584
00:25:17,975 --> 00:25:20,561
♪
585
00:25:20,561 --> 00:25:22,771
I’m not sure
if it’s a problem of cats
586
00:25:22,771 --> 00:25:24,648
or a problem of mice.
587
00:25:24,648 --> 00:25:26,775
They’re not around,
there’s more mice.
588
00:25:26,775 --> 00:25:29,445
There’s even a rat
showed up here.
589
00:25:29,445 --> 00:25:32,573
I mean, I don’t particularly
want them in my home,
590
00:25:32,573 --> 00:25:35,075
so having the cats around
591
00:25:35,075 --> 00:25:37,411
is part of life.
592
00:25:39,246 --> 00:25:41,957
(birds chirping)
593
00:25:41,957 --> 00:25:44,376
(rustling)
594
00:25:46,879 --> 00:25:49,506
Everyone’s doing really well.
595
00:25:49,506 --> 00:25:51,467
They all had their surgeries
and are recovered
596
00:25:51,467 --> 00:25:54,386
so they can go
to their forever homes.
597
00:25:54,386 --> 00:25:56,305
Hey, babes.
598
00:25:56,305 --> 00:25:59,683
So, everyone’s, like,
a full-on kitten now.
599
00:25:59,683 --> 00:26:02,102
Proper kitten, no more bottles.
600
00:26:02,102 --> 00:26:03,812
Jackson took the longest.
601
00:26:03,812 --> 00:26:07,316
He was still eight weeks old
and on a bottle.
602
00:26:07,316 --> 00:26:10,110
He ended up with
almost 60,000 Likes
603
00:26:10,110 --> 00:26:12,821
on his little photo,
so my page blew up
604
00:26:12,821 --> 00:26:14,072
after that a little bit.
605
00:26:14,072 --> 00:26:16,450
(ticking)
606
00:26:16,450 --> 00:26:18,702
They’re really easy going
because they’re used to people.
607
00:26:18,702 --> 00:26:19,912
I mean,
that’s all they know, right?
608
00:26:19,912 --> 00:26:22,206
They didn’t have a cat mom.
609
00:26:22,206 --> 00:26:24,708
Babe, my new pants.
610
00:26:24,708 --> 00:26:27,586
My new pants, love.
611
00:26:27,586 --> 00:26:30,464
And they just are
obsessed with everybody.
612
00:26:30,464 --> 00:26:32,424
Hey, buddy.
613
00:26:32,424 --> 00:26:33,675
You like people, eh?
614
00:26:33,675 --> 00:26:34,927
No.
615
00:26:34,927 --> 00:26:37,054
No thanks, no thanks, no thanks.
616
00:26:37,054 --> 00:26:40,224
(rustling)
617
00:26:40,224 --> 00:26:42,643
(chimes dinging)
618
00:26:46,772 --> 00:26:48,774
Have they been around
for a long time?
619
00:26:48,774 --> 00:26:50,692
I’ve been
looking after these guys
620
00:26:50,692 --> 00:26:53,612
for two months.
621
00:26:53,612 --> 00:26:56,073
A man moved in
next door to a lady
622
00:26:56,073 --> 00:26:58,909
that was helping feed a colony.
623
00:26:58,909 --> 00:27:01,537
And within 24 hours
of him being there,
624
00:27:01,537 --> 00:27:03,497
he put poison in the water.
625
00:27:03,497 --> 00:27:05,749
Two moms and two litters
were found dead
626
00:27:05,749 --> 00:27:07,543
all over the backyard.
627
00:27:07,543 --> 00:27:11,129
I think there’s probably about
eight cats went down.
628
00:27:11,129 --> 00:27:14,341
Within days, they turned up,
629
00:27:14,341 --> 00:27:17,010
and they were just
little kittens.
630
00:27:17,010 --> 00:27:18,637
There was kittens
found dead on the road.
631
00:27:18,637 --> 00:27:21,431
There was one cat
decapitated by this man.
632
00:27:21,431 --> 00:27:22,891
The cats scattered
in all directions,
633
00:27:22,891 --> 00:27:25,143
and they came this way.
634
00:27:25,143 --> 00:27:28,313
So, that’s why I inherited
these little guys.
635
00:27:28,313 --> 00:27:29,982
So, that’s Guimauve,
636
00:27:29,982 --> 00:27:31,483
and the other little boy,
637
00:27:31,483 --> 00:27:33,569
that’s George.
638
00:27:33,569 --> 00:27:35,529
Oh, my God, he’s so cute.
639
00:27:37,447 --> 00:27:40,325
So, how many cats do you think
are actually around here then?
640
00:27:40,325 --> 00:27:42,953
I usually have six guaranteed.
641
00:27:42,953 --> 00:27:44,621
(meowing)
642
00:27:44,621 --> 00:27:45,873
You wanna just
come with me for a second?
643
00:27:45,873 --> 00:27:48,166
I’ll show you.
644
00:27:48,166 --> 00:27:51,378
Lisa, because she’s not part
of this, is staying away.
645
00:27:51,378 --> 00:27:52,588
-Really?
-Well, she doesn’t wanna
646
00:27:52,588 --> 00:27:54,715
come in here,
so I brought a crate out
647
00:27:54,715 --> 00:27:56,758
and put straw inside.
648
00:27:56,758 --> 00:27:59,052
But, she keeps having
lots of kittens.
649
00:27:59,052 --> 00:28:01,138
She needs to be caught.
650
00:28:01,138 --> 00:28:03,974
-Oh.
-Last winter. .
651
00:28:03,974 --> 00:28:05,183
-Mellissa?
-Yeah?
652
00:28:05,183 --> 00:28:07,185
-She ate her babies.
-Ate them?
653
00:28:09,521 --> 00:28:11,189
I was like,
"I didn’t know cats did that. "
654
00:28:13,066 --> 00:28:14,693
It’s gonna be
an interesting winter.
655
00:28:14,693 --> 00:28:16,111
Mhm.
656
00:28:16,111 --> 00:28:18,614
(bird cawing)
657
00:28:18,614 --> 00:28:28,540
♪
658
00:28:47,225 --> 00:28:49,603
The cats are dying.
659
00:28:49,603 --> 00:28:51,605
A lot of them do freeze,
660
00:28:51,605 --> 00:28:54,608
and they’re also starving.
661
00:28:54,608 --> 00:28:57,235
I believe tonight
is gonna be -11,
662
00:28:57,235 --> 00:28:59,488
and that’s pretty cold.
663
00:28:59,488 --> 00:29:00,989
So, we’re gonna be
doing some trapping
664
00:29:00,989 --> 00:29:02,658
in the next couple of days.
665
00:29:02,658 --> 00:29:04,284
We put the traps out
with some food,
666
00:29:04,284 --> 00:29:07,621
and a lot of times
we just wait around.
667
00:29:07,621 --> 00:29:09,915
So, hopefully we have
five to six cats
668
00:29:09,915 --> 00:29:12,459
tomorrow morning,
and going to the vet.
669
00:29:12,459 --> 00:29:14,878
(whirring)
670
00:29:17,714 --> 00:29:20,050
♪
671
00:29:20,050 --> 00:29:21,510
-Morning.
-Good morning.
672
00:29:21,510 --> 00:29:23,720
How are you?
You’re supposed to be sleeping.
673
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,598
I know.
674
00:29:26,598 --> 00:29:27,891
Here we go.
675
00:29:27,891 --> 00:29:29,768
Oh, smaller, yes.
676
00:29:29,768 --> 00:29:31,186
Hey, there he is.
677
00:29:31,186 --> 00:29:32,437
Yes, hello.
678
00:29:32,437 --> 00:29:33,647
-Okay, got it?
-Yeah.
679
00:29:33,647 --> 00:29:34,773
You take. . you take this one.
680
00:29:34,773 --> 00:29:36,441
-Okay.
-Okay?
681
00:29:36,441 --> 00:29:38,360
Maarten and I, we’re the only
two people in Cornwall
682
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:39,820
that do the trapping.
683
00:29:39,820 --> 00:29:43,448
75 cats over 3 years,
which is quite good.
684
00:29:43,448 --> 00:29:46,076
Maarten, strong willed,
hard head.
685
00:29:46,076 --> 00:29:47,619
Loves animals for sure.
686
00:29:47,619 --> 00:29:48,954
He’s a good friend.
687
00:29:48,954 --> 00:29:50,914
We both love cats,
and we have to do
688
00:29:50,914 --> 00:29:53,625
what we have to do.
689
00:29:53,625 --> 00:29:55,335
(indistinct remarks)
690
00:29:55,335 --> 00:29:56,837
But, I’ve been dealing
with Lynda for five years,
691
00:29:56,837 --> 00:29:59,589
so she knows what’s going on.
692
00:29:59,589 --> 00:30:01,883
-Probably 4:00.
-Okay, I’ll be here.
693
00:30:01,883 --> 00:30:03,260
Okay, thanks, talk to you later.
694
00:30:03,260 --> 00:30:05,178
-Appreciate it.
-Bye.
695
00:30:05,178 --> 00:30:09,349
♪
696
00:30:09,349 --> 00:30:11,727
(thudding)
697
00:30:11,727 --> 00:30:15,022
Here in Cornwall the vet
charges way too much money.
698
00:30:15,022 --> 00:30:18,525
So, that’s why we go to
Saint-Zotique, Quebec.
699
00:30:18,525 --> 00:30:22,446
So, the prices in Saint-Zotique
are about $130 for a male,
700
00:30:22,446 --> 00:30:24,489
and $155 for a female.
701
00:30:24,489 --> 00:30:28,201
To get a cat spayed or neutered
in Cornwall is $500.
702
00:30:28,201 --> 00:30:30,746
♪
703
00:30:30,746 --> 00:30:33,248
(meowing)
704
00:30:33,248 --> 00:30:37,961
♪
705
00:30:37,961 --> 00:30:40,464
(clicking)
706
00:30:40,464 --> 00:30:42,758
♪
707
00:30:42,758 --> 00:30:44,718
We’re gonna take
the traps in first, right?
708
00:30:44,718 --> 00:30:45,927
-Yeah.
-Yeah, we’ll come back
709
00:30:45,927 --> 00:30:47,512
for the carriers.
710
00:30:47,512 --> 00:30:49,181
♪
711
00:30:49,181 --> 00:30:51,099
Right, big fella?
712
00:30:51,099 --> 00:30:52,392
Not happy, eh?
713
00:30:52,392 --> 00:30:53,894
This ones a scared one.
714
00:30:53,894 --> 00:30:56,438
Here, don’t worry,
nobody’s gonna hurt ya.
715
00:30:56,438 --> 00:30:59,524
You’re gonna be fine.
716
00:30:59,524 --> 00:31:01,443
-Hello, good morning.
-How are you?
717
00:31:01,443 --> 00:31:02,736
Good, how are you?
718
00:31:02,736 --> 00:31:05,238
(speaking French)
719
00:31:05,238 --> 00:31:07,157
♪
720
00:31:07,157 --> 00:31:10,660
So, from here,
Jen takes ’em into that room,
721
00:31:10,660 --> 00:31:14,164
checks them over and everything.
722
00:31:14,164 --> 00:31:16,625
(creaking)
723
00:31:16,625 --> 00:31:19,169
(phone ringing)
724
00:31:19,169 --> 00:31:21,296
-How many traps am I paying for?
-Three.
725
00:31:21,296 --> 00:31:23,298
-Three, yep.
-Three traps?
726
00:31:23,298 --> 00:31:26,468
I was able to raise the funds
through my supporters
727
00:31:26,468 --> 00:31:30,597
for the three or four
that are getting done today.
728
00:31:30,597 --> 00:31:33,558
(meowing)
729
00:31:33,558 --> 00:31:35,477
I have to constantly
ask people for money,
730
00:31:35,477 --> 00:31:37,270
which I really hate doing.
731
00:31:37,270 --> 00:31:39,815
But, if I don’t ask for help,
then we don’t make progress.
732
00:31:39,815 --> 00:31:41,608
(buzzing)
733
00:31:41,608 --> 00:31:45,237
We need a better plan, we have
tons of kittens being born,
734
00:31:45,237 --> 00:31:48,281
tons of ferals reproducing,
like, it’s just never ending.
735
00:31:48,281 --> 00:31:51,201
(humming)
736
00:31:51,201 --> 00:31:54,538
There’s like so many of them
dying outside, the cats,
737
00:31:54,538 --> 00:31:56,206
they’re dying outside.
738
00:31:56,206 --> 00:31:59,292
(buzzing)
739
00:31:59,292 --> 00:32:01,169
(phone ringing)
740
00:32:05,257 --> 00:32:07,676
(beeping)
741
00:32:09,719 --> 00:32:12,139
(speaking French)
742
00:32:17,686 --> 00:32:20,188
(clinking)
743
00:32:20,188 --> 00:32:22,607
(beeping)
744
00:32:24,985 --> 00:32:26,570
My name is Lousie Lavallé
745
00:32:26,570 --> 00:32:28,989
I’m a veterinarian
who does surgeries,
746
00:32:28,989 --> 00:32:32,742
principally spaying
and neutering for shelter cats,
747
00:32:32,742 --> 00:32:35,579
community cats,
people with low income.
748
00:32:35,579 --> 00:32:38,081
(indistinct remarks)
749
00:32:38,081 --> 00:32:44,629
♪
750
00:32:44,629 --> 00:32:47,257
I would like municipalities
or governments
751
00:32:47,257 --> 00:32:50,594
having regulations,
so every animal that is sold
752
00:32:50,594 --> 00:32:54,598
in a pet store
or from breeders are fixed.
753
00:32:54,598 --> 00:32:56,850
Because, me,
I’m doing sterilization.
754
00:32:56,850 --> 00:32:59,853
But, the problem,
I’m always doing sterilization.
755
00:32:59,853 --> 00:33:01,396
I want this to decrease.
756
00:33:01,396 --> 00:33:03,773
But, if there is
always animals coming
757
00:33:03,773 --> 00:33:05,567
that are not sterilized.
758
00:33:05,567 --> 00:33:07,736
(beeping)
759
00:33:07,736 --> 00:33:09,487
It’s like
when you have a problem
760
00:33:09,487 --> 00:33:11,573
with your water and your tap.
761
00:33:11,573 --> 00:33:14,534
The water is running over
the sink on your floor.
762
00:33:14,534 --> 00:33:17,579
You’re gonna get a towel
to remove all the water.
763
00:33:17,579 --> 00:33:20,707
But, you’re gonna
close the tap first, okay.
764
00:33:20,707 --> 00:33:24,127
That’s the same thing
for the cats.
765
00:33:24,127 --> 00:33:27,297
Somebody has to close the tap.
766
00:33:27,297 --> 00:33:29,799
(beeping)
767
00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:37,641
♪
768
00:33:37,641 --> 00:33:40,060
(chimes dinging)
769
00:33:44,940 --> 00:33:47,359
(indistinct remarks)
770
00:33:49,277 --> 00:33:51,488
Yeah, that’s the one.
771
00:33:51,488 --> 00:33:52,989
Okay, you.
772
00:33:54,616 --> 00:33:57,410
-Thank you, Lynda.
-You’re welcome, thank you.
773
00:34:01,706 --> 00:34:04,125
(meowing)
774
00:34:07,420 --> 00:34:09,339
(chirping)
775
00:34:09,339 --> 00:34:12,342
Wow, that’s fascinating.
776
00:34:12,342 --> 00:34:15,053
♪
777
00:34:15,053 --> 00:34:17,681
The TNR cats always
come together in a group.
778
00:34:17,681 --> 00:34:19,474
♪
779
00:34:19,474 --> 00:34:21,518
(meowing)
780
00:34:21,518 --> 00:34:23,812
♪
781
00:34:23,812 --> 00:34:25,438
Oh, that’s, uh, Guimauve.
782
00:34:25,438 --> 00:34:27,357
(meowing)
783
00:34:27,357 --> 00:34:30,110
The water’s frozen.
784
00:34:30,110 --> 00:34:33,363
He’s pulling
the water bowl towards him.
785
00:34:33,363 --> 00:34:35,573
He’s trying to break the ice.
786
00:34:35,573 --> 00:34:38,743
♪
787
00:34:38,743 --> 00:34:40,996
He’s pretty determined
to get a drink.
788
00:34:40,996 --> 00:34:43,164
♪
789
00:34:43,164 --> 00:34:44,666
He’s using his head.
790
00:34:44,666 --> 00:34:46,418
♪
791
00:34:46,418 --> 00:34:48,878
That’s hilarious.
792
00:34:48,878 --> 00:34:50,964
Guimauve,
he’s very, very curious,
793
00:34:50,964 --> 00:34:54,342
and he’s the one I’m most
concerned about in the summer.
794
00:34:54,342 --> 00:34:56,720
He’s going to get himself
in trouble.
795
00:34:56,720 --> 00:34:59,139
♪
796
00:34:59,139 --> 00:35:00,932
Maybe if people could see
these movies of them,
797
00:35:00,932 --> 00:35:05,103
they wouldn’t be so anxious,
you know, to hurt them,
798
00:35:05,103 --> 00:35:07,439
poison them, trap them.
799
00:35:07,439 --> 00:35:10,984
Like the guy that poisoned
all the cats on the street.
800
00:35:10,984 --> 00:35:12,569
(cat mewing)
801
00:35:12,569 --> 00:35:14,446
When people like me
are feeding the feral cats,
802
00:35:14,446 --> 00:35:16,656
they’re no longer going
into the garbage.
803
00:35:16,656 --> 00:35:18,575
There’s no fights on the street.
804
00:35:18,575 --> 00:35:20,910
But still,
people don’t want the cats.
805
00:35:20,910 --> 00:35:22,954
♪
806
00:35:22,954 --> 00:35:24,873
I don’t know why
he’s chubby like that,
807
00:35:24,873 --> 00:35:27,667
but he’s got a real cute,
lovable character.
808
00:35:27,667 --> 00:35:31,004
♪
809
00:35:31,004 --> 00:35:32,422
He would have made a good pet.
810
00:35:32,422 --> 00:35:40,347
♪
811
00:35:40,347 --> 00:35:41,931
The cats are all over.
812
00:35:41,931 --> 00:35:44,142
I am finding out more
and more from other people
813
00:35:44,142 --> 00:35:46,644
that they are
having problems as well
814
00:35:46,644 --> 00:35:49,064
and they are feeding
ten cats or more.
815
00:35:49,064 --> 00:35:51,107
I am thinking,
okay, how many houses,
816
00:35:51,107 --> 00:35:52,776
how many people are doing this?
817
00:35:52,776 --> 00:35:54,861
I can’t save them all.
818
00:35:54,861 --> 00:35:56,863
As of three weeks ago,
819
00:35:56,863 --> 00:35:59,240
we were about 5,000
still in debt
820
00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:00,909
and that’s a lot of money.
821
00:36:00,909 --> 00:36:02,911
That’s crazy.
822
00:36:02,911 --> 00:36:05,622
The city of Cornwall.
It’s just frustrating.
823
00:36:05,622 --> 00:36:08,375
It takes so friggin’ long
to get anywhere.
824
00:36:08,375 --> 00:36:10,168
Which, I get, like,
it’s not their priority,
825
00:36:10,168 --> 00:36:14,089
but. . the kittens are coming.
826
00:36:14,089 --> 00:36:16,591
Truly, I think they’re ignoring
us right now.
827
00:36:16,591 --> 00:36:21,304
(telephone ringing)
828
00:36:21,304 --> 00:36:23,973
You have reached the building
and bylaw department.
829
00:36:23,973 --> 00:36:26,309
If you are calling
to schedule an inspection
830
00:36:26,309 --> 00:36:28,353
or to make a bylaw complaint,
831
00:36:28,353 --> 00:36:30,605
please leave me a message
and I’ll call you back.
832
00:36:30,605 --> 00:36:31,940
Thank you.
833
00:36:31,940 --> 00:36:33,566
(dial tone)
834
00:36:33,566 --> 00:36:36,694
♪
835
00:36:36,694 --> 00:36:39,114
(hum of passing traffic)
836
00:36:44,119 --> 00:36:45,912
We’re both getting fed up.
837
00:36:45,912 --> 00:36:49,082
Like it’s time to get
the money into the budget.
838
00:36:49,082 --> 00:36:51,543
Like, don’t fool around with us
anymore, we’re done.
839
00:36:51,543 --> 00:36:53,086
♪
840
00:36:53,086 --> 00:36:54,546
Next week is Christmas,
841
00:36:54,546 --> 00:36:56,339
and I’m thinking about
the bloody cats.
842
00:36:56,339 --> 00:36:57,924
Minus twenty or whatever.
843
00:36:57,924 --> 00:36:59,759
That kills me, it really does.
844
00:36:59,759 --> 00:37:02,679
So you sort of feel defeated
in a way.
845
00:37:02,679 --> 00:37:05,682
But you can’t let it
get you down,
846
00:37:05,682 --> 00:37:07,809
you gotta keep on going.
847
00:37:07,809 --> 00:37:10,728
I got hooked up
with a woman named Brigit
848
00:37:10,728 --> 00:37:12,439
and I had no idea,
849
00:37:12,439 --> 00:37:15,150
Lynda lives like one minute away
around the corner.
850
00:37:15,150 --> 00:37:19,654
So close, we’re talking like
another 10 cats in one house.
851
00:37:19,654 --> 00:37:21,990
Her and her husband,
they’re feeding the cats
852
00:37:21,990 --> 00:37:24,242
but they’re also multiplying
because they can’t afford
853
00:37:24,242 --> 00:37:26,411
to spay or neuter them.
854
00:37:26,411 --> 00:37:28,163
We should have a meeting
one night, we should all
855
00:37:28,163 --> 00:37:30,790
get together and just try
and get other people involved.
856
00:37:30,790 --> 00:37:32,584
I want to find out if
there’s more houses like this.
857
00:37:32,584 --> 00:37:34,294
-I really, really do.
-I’m sure there is
858
00:37:34,294 --> 00:37:36,713
because I’ve heard rumors
and neighbors talk.
859
00:37:36,713 --> 00:37:39,174
So there’s a couple of people
down the street here
860
00:37:39,174 --> 00:37:42,177
who are feeding and I want to
find out who it is.
861
00:37:42,177 --> 00:37:43,761
There’s a cat right there,
there’s a cat right there,
862
00:37:43,761 --> 00:37:46,431
right across the street.
863
00:37:46,431 --> 00:37:48,892
There’s lots of cats here.
864
00:37:48,892 --> 00:37:51,186
I’ve left three traps
at Brigit’s,
865
00:37:51,186 --> 00:37:53,146
gone over everything with her,
866
00:37:53,146 --> 00:37:54,647
and hopefully all goes well.
867
00:37:54,647 --> 00:38:02,238
♪
868
00:38:02,238 --> 00:38:04,199
(crow cawing)
869
00:38:04,199 --> 00:38:07,827
♪
870
00:38:07,827 --> 00:38:09,204
My name is Brigit Lueck
871
00:38:09,204 --> 00:38:12,123
and I am just recently
from Vancouver.
872
00:38:12,123 --> 00:38:14,083
Oh my God.
873
00:38:14,083 --> 00:38:16,753
I came here and I’m like,
"What’s up with all the cats?
874
00:38:16,753 --> 00:38:18,254
They’re, like, everywhere. "
875
00:38:18,254 --> 00:38:19,464
Okay.
876
00:38:19,464 --> 00:38:20,840
♪
877
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,134
Here, there is
no organized strategy
878
00:38:23,134 --> 00:38:25,512
around the feral cats.
879
00:38:25,512 --> 00:38:27,138
A lot of people
are pretty overwhelmed.
880
00:38:27,138 --> 00:38:29,098
Like, that’s kind of what
happened with us too
881
00:38:29,098 --> 00:38:30,391
when we came here.
882
00:38:30,391 --> 00:38:32,060
Can you get that one?
883
00:38:32,060 --> 00:38:34,020
We just couldn’t, you know,
884
00:38:34,020 --> 00:38:39,359
neuter like 12 cats that
are coming through, right?
885
00:38:39,359 --> 00:38:43,071
So it’s an overwhelming
situation at the moment.
886
00:38:43,071 --> 00:38:44,781
-How are you?
-Hello.
887
00:38:44,781 --> 00:38:46,199
Hey, how are you?
888
00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:47,909
It’s okay.
You have a pretty tail too, eh?
889
00:38:47,909 --> 00:38:50,578
Different colors.
Different colors.
890
00:38:50,578 --> 00:38:51,871
Okay.
891
00:38:51,871 --> 00:38:54,290
(hum of passing traffic)
892
00:38:56,876 --> 00:38:59,420
He’s really heavy.
893
00:38:59,420 --> 00:39:02,632
I think it’s a male
just by the size of his face
894
00:39:02,632 --> 00:39:04,008
and of his neck.
895
00:39:04,008 --> 00:39:07,345
They develop more muscle
when they are male
896
00:39:07,345 --> 00:39:09,430
because of the testosterone.
897
00:39:09,430 --> 00:39:11,057
Of course, he’s still stressed,
898
00:39:11,057 --> 00:39:13,768
but we’re going to try to have
him come here.
899
00:39:13,768 --> 00:39:16,020
Come, come.
900
00:39:16,020 --> 00:39:18,648
-(cat hisses)
-Okay.
901
00:39:18,648 --> 00:39:20,066
(hisses)
902
00:39:20,066 --> 00:39:22,694
♪
903
00:39:22,694 --> 00:39:24,487
(clippers buzzing)
904
00:39:24,487 --> 00:39:31,744
♪
905
00:39:31,744 --> 00:39:33,538
(cat meowing)
906
00:39:33,538 --> 00:39:35,248
Okay.
907
00:39:35,248 --> 00:39:36,457
Ready? Hold on.
908
00:39:36,457 --> 00:39:38,751
♪
909
00:39:38,751 --> 00:39:39,961
Perfect.
910
00:39:39,961 --> 00:39:41,170
Happy.
911
00:39:41,170 --> 00:39:42,213
Great.
912
00:39:42,213 --> 00:39:44,674
Okay. Ohh.
913
00:39:44,674 --> 00:39:52,682
♪
914
00:39:53,850 --> 00:39:56,269
(crows cawing)
915
00:39:58,229 --> 00:40:00,815
Are you alert?
I put a little bit of food here
916
00:40:00,815 --> 00:40:03,067
just to see if she’d eat
and she did eat.
917
00:40:03,067 --> 00:40:05,653
So she’s alert,
and I think ready to go.
918
00:40:05,653 --> 00:40:08,615
♪
919
00:40:08,615 --> 00:40:10,491
(cat mewling)
920
00:40:10,491 --> 00:40:20,418
♪
921
00:40:23,254 --> 00:40:25,131
(cat yowling)
922
00:40:25,131 --> 00:40:27,967
Okay.
This one is a little bit upset.
923
00:40:27,967 --> 00:40:31,971
That’s also a good sign because
she’s a fighter, obviously.
924
00:40:31,971 --> 00:40:33,931
(cat yowling)
925
00:40:33,931 --> 00:40:41,105
♪
926
00:40:41,105 --> 00:40:44,484
(cat yowling)
927
00:40:44,484 --> 00:40:46,235
You ready, pumpkin?
928
00:40:48,363 --> 00:40:49,822
(bird cawing)
929
00:40:49,822 --> 00:40:52,825
♪
930
00:40:52,825 --> 00:40:54,410
Taking his time, actually.
931
00:40:54,410 --> 00:41:03,711
♪
932
00:41:06,381 --> 00:41:08,341
(crunching)
933
00:41:08,341 --> 00:41:09,801
(bird chittering)
934
00:41:09,801 --> 00:41:16,975
♪
935
00:41:16,975 --> 00:41:18,309
That’s it.
936
00:41:18,309 --> 00:41:20,186
Three trapped, three released.
937
00:41:20,186 --> 00:41:25,566
♪
938
00:41:25,566 --> 00:41:28,611
Right now, I don’t think science
has really figured out
939
00:41:28,611 --> 00:41:30,530
what is best in all situations.
940
00:41:30,530 --> 00:41:32,573
It’s hard to say
if trap-neuter-release
941
00:41:32,573 --> 00:41:35,618
is actually effective
at reducing cat populations.
942
00:41:35,618 --> 00:41:38,496
We might reduce
the original number of cats
943
00:41:38,496 --> 00:41:40,707
that were in a
trap-neuter-release colony,
944
00:41:40,707 --> 00:41:42,959
but you can still have cats
come into that colony
945
00:41:42,959 --> 00:41:44,961
from other areas.
946
00:41:44,961 --> 00:41:48,256
For it to be effective,
it would need to be continuous.
947
00:41:48,256 --> 00:41:50,341
Every cat that comes
into that population,
948
00:41:50,341 --> 00:41:52,844
we’d need to make sure that
it is spayed or neutered.
949
00:41:52,844 --> 00:42:02,770
♪
950
00:42:06,065 --> 00:42:08,526
♪
951
00:42:08,526 --> 00:42:10,862
(soft lapping)
952
00:42:10,862 --> 00:42:12,280
(soft mewing)
953
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:13,740
(bell jingling)
954
00:42:13,740 --> 00:42:16,367
Boys, boys.
955
00:42:16,367 --> 00:42:18,327
You’re such bad boys, stop.
956
00:42:18,327 --> 00:42:20,705
♪
957
00:42:20,705 --> 00:42:23,416
(cats mewing, chittering)
958
00:42:23,416 --> 00:42:31,799
♪
959
00:42:31,799 --> 00:42:33,968
They all have homes,
we’re just waiting to figure out
960
00:42:33,968 --> 00:42:37,722
when the families can arrange
for me to drop them off.
961
00:42:37,722 --> 00:42:39,223
I just prefer to see
where they’re going
962
00:42:39,223 --> 00:42:40,850
because it makes me feel
a little bit better
963
00:42:40,850 --> 00:42:43,144
when they leave me.
964
00:42:43,144 --> 00:42:46,397
So, yeah, I always drop them off
no matter how far it is.
965
00:42:46,397 --> 00:42:47,398
Get back down.
966
00:42:47,398 --> 00:42:49,108
(she laughs)
967
00:42:49,108 --> 00:42:51,986
Monkey, that’s why
we don’t open the window.
968
00:42:51,986 --> 00:42:56,157
Today, he is going to go to
his forever home, unfortunately.
969
00:42:56,157 --> 00:42:57,575
Well, I mean, it’s bittersweet.
970
00:42:57,575 --> 00:42:59,702
It’s happy because
he’s gonna have more space
971
00:42:59,702 --> 00:43:02,330
and a family who can give him
more attention.
972
00:43:02,330 --> 00:43:05,458
But it’s always bittersweet
when they leave.
973
00:43:05,458 --> 00:43:07,210
(soft purring)
974
00:43:07,210 --> 00:43:14,175
♪
975
00:43:14,175 --> 00:43:15,843
Ready to go, bud?
976
00:43:15,843 --> 00:43:17,762
(meowing)
977
00:43:23,267 --> 00:43:28,064
♪
978
00:43:28,064 --> 00:43:29,816
(soft meowing)
979
00:43:29,816 --> 00:43:39,742
♪
980
00:43:47,875 --> 00:43:52,255
Jackson must wonder
what’s going on today.
981
00:43:52,255 --> 00:43:54,382
-Hello!
-Go see!
982
00:43:54,382 --> 00:43:55,842
Let him go.
983
00:43:55,842 --> 00:43:57,885
What’s that?
984
00:43:57,885 --> 00:43:59,303
Just let him do his thing,
honey.
985
00:43:59,303 --> 00:44:00,763
Are you purring, lovebug?
986
00:44:00,763 --> 00:44:01,931
(meowing)
987
00:44:01,931 --> 00:44:11,858
♪
988
00:44:21,659 --> 00:44:26,289
Okay, we have
microchip information.
989
00:44:26,289 --> 00:44:28,374
So you send it back to them
with your information
990
00:44:28,374 --> 00:44:30,334
so that it changes over to you
instead of me.
991
00:44:30,334 --> 00:44:31,377
Okay.
992
00:44:31,377 --> 00:44:34,630
This is his vaccination record.
993
00:44:34,630 --> 00:44:36,632
Okay.
994
00:44:36,632 --> 00:44:38,134
And it does say
he’s due for his next one,
995
00:44:38,134 --> 00:44:39,427
so you’ve made that appointment.
996
00:44:39,427 --> 00:44:41,095
Yup.
997
00:44:41,095 --> 00:44:43,472
So then when I go to my
November 11th appointment,
998
00:44:43,472 --> 00:44:44,891
I’ll just bring that
and that’s. .
999
00:44:44,891 --> 00:44:46,142
You can.
1000
00:44:46,142 --> 00:44:48,436
to show them
what he’s had done, right?
1001
00:44:48,436 --> 00:44:51,480
Okay, okay.
Perfect.
1002
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,150
-Easy enough.
-Mm-hm.
1003
00:44:54,150 --> 00:44:56,319
That’s it.
1004
00:44:56,319 --> 00:44:58,946
Your mama’s going,
your mama, she going?
1005
00:44:58,946 --> 00:45:00,615
Yeah.
1006
00:45:00,615 --> 00:45:03,159
-Yeah.
-He might be getting sleepy.
1007
00:45:03,159 --> 00:45:05,661
You need to give him
a big squeeze and a big hug.
1008
00:45:05,661 --> 00:45:07,413
Bye, babe.
1009
00:45:07,413 --> 00:45:09,415
Say, you did a good job, Mama.
1010
00:45:09,415 --> 00:45:11,334
Hey? Look at you.
1011
00:45:11,334 --> 00:45:12,919
♪
1012
00:45:12,919 --> 00:45:14,295
Yeah.
1013
00:45:14,295 --> 00:45:15,922
Aww.
1014
00:45:15,922 --> 00:45:25,848
♪
1015
00:45:31,812 --> 00:45:33,522
How are you feeling right now?
1016
00:45:33,522 --> 00:45:35,942
Fine, actually, because
they’re such great people
1017
00:45:35,942 --> 00:45:37,735
that it makes it
just, like, easy.
1018
00:45:37,735 --> 00:45:42,114
♪
1019
00:45:42,114 --> 00:45:44,909
(rumble of car
and passing traffic)
1020
00:45:47,870 --> 00:45:49,330
(bird cawing)
1021
00:45:49,330 --> 00:45:53,376
♪
1022
00:45:53,376 --> 00:45:55,461
The TNR was wonderful,
1023
00:45:55,461 --> 00:45:58,047
but they’re collecting friends.
1024
00:45:58,047 --> 00:46:03,260
♪
1025
00:46:03,260 --> 00:46:04,637
(cat mews)
1026
00:46:04,637 --> 00:46:10,142
♪
1027
00:46:10,142 --> 00:46:11,644
(cat mewing)
1028
00:46:11,644 --> 00:46:17,900
♪
1029
00:46:17,900 --> 00:46:19,652
(food rattling in can)
1030
00:46:19,652 --> 00:46:22,905
♪
1031
00:46:22,905 --> 00:46:26,033
I don’t mind the ones
that I was made responsible for,
1032
00:46:26,033 --> 00:46:27,618
the ones that got TNR’d.
1033
00:46:27,618 --> 00:46:29,996
It’s that now I’m seeing
multiple cats
1034
00:46:29,996 --> 00:46:31,789
that I haven’t seen before
1035
00:46:31,789 --> 00:46:34,208
and I don’t know how they
communicate with each other,
1036
00:46:34,208 --> 00:46:37,795
how they all end up
understanding that that house
1037
00:46:37,795 --> 00:46:40,631
has two little females
that are not fixed
1038
00:46:40,631 --> 00:46:43,509
and there’s males coming
from blocks away
1039
00:46:43,509 --> 00:46:45,761
to mate with the cats.
1040
00:46:45,761 --> 00:46:47,513
I mean, all you need
is two cats out, right?
1041
00:46:47,513 --> 00:46:49,515
One male, one female,
and off we go again.
1042
00:46:49,515 --> 00:46:51,559
♪
1043
00:46:51,559 --> 00:46:55,229
And it’s going to be
a real issue with neighbors.
1044
00:46:55,229 --> 00:46:56,939
A real issue.
1045
00:46:56,939 --> 00:46:59,692
There’s going to be some
very unhappy neighbors.
1046
00:46:59,692 --> 00:47:01,193
I’m afraid for the cats
in the summer,
1047
00:47:01,193 --> 00:47:03,237
like I can’t protect them.
1048
00:47:03,237 --> 00:47:05,156
♪
1049
00:47:05,156 --> 00:47:07,074
(crow cawing)
1050
00:47:07,074 --> 00:47:08,451
♪
1051
00:47:08,451 --> 00:47:10,369
Australia
is taking drastic measures
1052
00:47:10,369 --> 00:47:12,371
to control its cat population.
1053
00:47:12,371 --> 00:47:14,331
Government officials are
launching a campaign
1054
00:47:14,331 --> 00:47:16,500
to kill more than
two million cats.
1055
00:47:16,500 --> 00:47:19,545
Ecologists say feral cats are
responsible for the extinctions
1056
00:47:19,545 --> 00:47:23,340
of more than two dozen
native Australian species.
1057
00:47:23,340 --> 00:47:25,342
What to do with
all these stray cats
1058
00:47:25,342 --> 00:47:27,762
has long been a problem here.
1059
00:47:27,762 --> 00:47:30,723
Japan has vowed to control
the wild cat problem
1060
00:47:30,723 --> 00:47:32,558
in time for the Olympic Games.
1061
00:47:32,558 --> 00:47:38,022
(announcer speaking in French)
1062
00:47:38,022 --> 00:47:39,982
Cats are an invasive species,
1063
00:47:39,982 --> 00:47:43,110
so bad, they’re killing billions
of animals a year.
1064
00:47:43,110 --> 00:47:45,362
♪
1065
00:47:45,362 --> 00:47:47,364
It’s an instinct in cats
1066
00:47:47,364 --> 00:47:50,576
when they see something small
move along in front of them
1067
00:47:50,576 --> 00:47:52,578
they just have to go for it.
1068
00:47:52,578 --> 00:47:55,081
It’s not the cats’ fault at all.
1069
00:47:57,708 --> 00:47:59,919
♪
1070
00:47:59,919 --> 00:48:02,463
I’m Hannah Lockwood
and I research
1071
00:48:02,463 --> 00:48:06,300
the impact of domestic cats
on prey populations.
1072
00:48:06,300 --> 00:48:08,260
So, this is a cat skull.
1073
00:48:08,260 --> 00:48:10,638
First, you’ll notice
these huge eyes
1074
00:48:10,638 --> 00:48:13,557
which gives them great depth
perception for stalking
1075
00:48:13,557 --> 00:48:16,352
and pouncing on prey.
1076
00:48:16,352 --> 00:48:19,188
They also have a separate organ
1077
00:48:19,188 --> 00:48:21,857
which is located
behind the retina,
1078
00:48:21,857 --> 00:48:26,779
and that bounces light back
through the retina and back out.
1079
00:48:26,779 --> 00:48:28,447
And that’s why you get
the eye shine
1080
00:48:28,447 --> 00:48:32,451
if you ever take a photo
of a cat with the flash on.
1081
00:48:32,451 --> 00:48:35,788
This is a bank vole skull,
1082
00:48:35,788 --> 00:48:38,499
and it would get it just
straight by the neck
1083
00:48:38,499 --> 00:48:40,918
and eat it pretty much whole
1084
00:48:40,918 --> 00:48:43,712
and then deliver a killing bite
with their sharp teeth.
1085
00:48:43,712 --> 00:48:46,549
♪
1086
00:48:46,549 --> 00:48:48,843
So that’s the cat skull.
1087
00:48:50,511 --> 00:48:54,098
(car horn honks)
1088
00:48:54,098 --> 00:48:56,392
The issue of there being
cats in the environment
1089
00:48:56,392 --> 00:48:58,644
is one of the few, I think,
1090
00:48:58,644 --> 00:49:02,106
solvable environmental issues
that we have.
1091
00:49:02,106 --> 00:49:03,524
And so it’s going to be
up to us,
1092
00:49:03,524 --> 00:49:05,317
and that includes cat owners,
1093
00:49:05,317 --> 00:49:07,570
it’s going to include
our shelter systems,
1094
00:49:07,570 --> 00:49:10,447
it’s going to include
governments as well.
1095
00:49:10,447 --> 00:49:12,324
We all generally want
the same thing.
1096
00:49:12,324 --> 00:49:14,410
We want what’s best for cats.
1097
00:49:14,410 --> 00:49:17,246
We want to reduce the number
of cats that are outside,
1098
00:49:17,246 --> 00:49:18,539
and we want
to reduce the impacts
1099
00:49:18,539 --> 00:49:20,374
that they have
on the environment.
1100
00:49:20,374 --> 00:49:21,876
So, something’s happened here.
It looks like the cat p. .
1101
00:49:21,876 --> 00:49:23,169
oop, yeah, it did.
1102
00:49:23,169 --> 00:49:27,298
There’s a chipmunk in its mouth.
1103
00:49:27,298 --> 00:49:29,842
And it’s dropped
the chipmunk now.
1104
00:49:29,842 --> 00:49:32,720
So, there’s a few things we’re
hoping to do with this work
1105
00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:34,096
and maybe there’s guidelines
1106
00:49:34,096 --> 00:49:36,056
that we can come about
from this study
1107
00:49:36,056 --> 00:49:37,725
that can help cat owners.
1108
00:49:37,725 --> 00:49:40,311
If they do feel they have
to put their cat outside,
1109
00:49:40,311 --> 00:49:42,188
we can provide some guidelines
on what’s best
1110
00:49:42,188 --> 00:49:44,732
for their cat.
1111
00:49:44,732 --> 00:49:46,233
-Hey, come on in.
-Hello, how are you?
1112
00:49:46,233 --> 00:49:48,694
Good, come on in.
1113
00:49:48,694 --> 00:49:52,781
Okay, I’ll show you
two videos here.
1114
00:49:52,781 --> 00:49:54,700
♪
1115
00:49:54,700 --> 00:49:56,202
So, I think
he’s just in your yard.
1116
00:49:56,202 --> 00:49:58,037
Maybe he’s in
someone else’s yard.
1117
00:49:58,037 --> 00:50:00,289
You see his head.
1118
00:50:00,289 --> 00:50:01,582
He’s doing something,
he just caught something.
1119
00:50:01,582 --> 00:50:02,750
-Oh, oh!
-Mouse.
1120
00:50:02,750 --> 00:50:05,753
No! Little critter.
1121
00:50:05,753 --> 00:50:07,004
So that’s in his jaws right now?
1122
00:50:07,004 --> 00:50:09,298
-That’s in his jaws.
-Oh man.
1123
00:50:09,298 --> 00:50:10,966
Oh my gosh!
1124
00:50:10,966 --> 00:50:13,928
Yeah, so he actually
captured stuff.
1125
00:50:13,928 --> 00:50:16,764
♪
1126
00:50:16,764 --> 00:50:19,016
Look what you’ve done.
Are you proud of yourself?
1127
00:50:19,016 --> 00:50:22,436
♪
1128
00:50:22,436 --> 00:50:25,147
So, when I talk to cat owners,
1129
00:50:25,147 --> 00:50:27,691
I try to talk about
whether a cat
1130
00:50:27,691 --> 00:50:31,028
should belong inside
or if it should be outside.
1131
00:50:31,028 --> 00:50:33,364
And certainly, we know
that when cats are outside,
1132
00:50:33,364 --> 00:50:34,949
they get more exercise.
1133
00:50:34,949 --> 00:50:38,619
But the risk to the cat of being
outside, in my opinion,
1134
00:50:38,619 --> 00:50:41,288
is far greater
than those benefits.
1135
00:50:41,288 --> 00:50:43,207
And what cat owners
really care about
1136
00:50:43,207 --> 00:50:45,209
is their cats
and their cats’ wellbeing.
1137
00:50:45,209 --> 00:50:47,586
♪
1138
00:50:47,586 --> 00:50:49,171
Comin’ out, bud?
1139
00:50:49,171 --> 00:50:50,714
(whistles)
1140
00:50:50,714 --> 00:50:57,680
♪
1141
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,723
Well, I think the public
well understands
1142
00:50:59,723 --> 00:51:02,309
that cats sometimes
kill other animals.
1143
00:51:02,309 --> 00:51:03,644
I mean, they’re predators
1144
00:51:03,644 --> 00:51:04,812
and that’s what they’re designed
to do,
1145
00:51:04,812 --> 00:51:07,106
and cats are not malicious. .
1146
00:51:07,106 --> 00:51:09,149
or maybe they are
in some cases. .
1147
00:51:09,149 --> 00:51:12,236
but, again, the problem is,
there are just so many cats,
1148
00:51:12,236 --> 00:51:14,280
uh, and they’re so good
at what they do,
1149
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,865
that, uh, literally,
millions of birds
1150
00:51:16,865 --> 00:51:19,994
are being killed every year
and they can least afford it.
1151
00:51:19,994 --> 00:51:22,621
We need to help these
populations that are declining
1152
00:51:22,621 --> 00:51:25,416
because they’re really integral
to our forest
1153
00:51:25,416 --> 00:51:27,334
and grassland ecosystems.
1154
00:51:27,334 --> 00:51:28,794
A healthy nature.
1155
00:51:28,794 --> 00:51:30,921
And somebody’s cat might
bring back one bird
1156
00:51:30,921 --> 00:51:32,423
every couple of weeks
and they think,
1157
00:51:32,423 --> 00:51:34,591
"Well, that’s too bad.
Bad kitty. "
1158
00:51:34,591 --> 00:51:35,884
It’s not really a problem
1159
00:51:35,884 --> 00:51:38,387
until you count up how many cats
there are.
1160
00:51:38,387 --> 00:51:41,265
And with millions of cats
in Canada, that adds up.
1161
00:51:41,265 --> 00:51:43,892
That makes a huge difference.
1162
00:51:43,892 --> 00:51:46,353
That’s okay. Come on.
1163
00:51:46,353 --> 00:51:47,688
(mewing)
1164
00:51:50,149 --> 00:51:52,026
Yes, baby. Hi.
1165
00:51:52,026 --> 00:51:53,193
Yes.
1166
00:51:53,193 --> 00:51:56,322
I lost three babies recently.
1167
00:51:56,322 --> 00:52:00,117
One just never grew, he was like
newborn size at two weeks old.
1168
00:52:00,117 --> 00:52:02,369
And the other one,
she was born without a bladder.
1169
00:52:02,369 --> 00:52:05,039
So they had to euthanize her
right there.
1170
00:52:05,039 --> 00:52:06,582
She was only four weeks old.
1171
00:52:06,582 --> 00:52:10,377
♪
1172
00:52:10,377 --> 00:52:12,796
Look at your little faces.
1173
00:52:12,796 --> 00:52:14,214
(soft mewing)
1174
00:52:14,214 --> 00:52:15,632
Are you nursin’ ’em?
1175
00:52:15,632 --> 00:52:18,510
I cry for a few days
but then it’s. . move on,
1176
00:52:18,510 --> 00:52:20,846
’cause I still had other ones
to save, so. .
1177
00:52:20,846 --> 00:52:28,479
♪
1178
00:52:28,479 --> 00:52:32,649
These are my two foster babies,
Indy and Ace.
1179
00:52:32,649 --> 00:52:37,488
They were being given away
at four weeks old,
1180
00:52:37,488 --> 00:52:41,450
which is obviously too young,
so I took them.
1181
00:52:41,450 --> 00:52:47,289
♪
1182
00:52:47,289 --> 00:52:49,792
-They are doing fine?
-They’re doing good.
1183
00:52:49,792 --> 00:52:52,461
I had antibiotics ready
but I didn’t need it.
1184
00:52:52,461 --> 00:52:53,629
Okay, good.
1185
00:52:53,629 --> 00:52:59,176
♪
1186
00:52:59,176 --> 00:53:00,469
-You did a good job.
-Thank you.
1187
00:53:00,469 --> 00:53:02,513
-They are pretty big.
-Yup.
1188
00:53:02,513 --> 00:53:05,057
So. .
Okay, two pounds and a quarter.
1189
00:53:05,057 --> 00:53:09,311
♪
1190
00:53:09,311 --> 00:53:11,271
-She didn’t even know.
-No, no, no.
1191
00:53:11,271 --> 00:53:12,398
♪
1192
00:53:12,398 --> 00:53:14,316
Mellissa, she’s well organized.
1193
00:53:14,316 --> 00:53:15,984
♪
1194
00:53:15,984 --> 00:53:18,612
It’s not everybody
that can deal with orphans.
1195
00:53:18,612 --> 00:53:21,698
♪
1196
00:53:21,698 --> 00:53:26,161
Giving is good, giving your time
with the animal is good,
1197
00:53:26,161 --> 00:53:28,914
but you have to realize
that you have
1198
00:53:28,914 --> 00:53:34,253
a certain limit because. .
1199
00:53:34,253 --> 00:53:36,255
you can get lost.
1200
00:53:36,255 --> 00:53:38,507
(cats meowing)
1201
00:53:38,507 --> 00:53:42,761
♪
1202
00:53:42,761 --> 00:53:44,972
Okay, so this is
both certificates.
1203
00:53:44,972 --> 00:53:47,975
-Okay, thank you.
-You’re welcome.
1204
00:53:47,975 --> 00:53:57,901
♪
1205
00:54:00,195 --> 00:54:02,281
Most of us see a roaming cat
as a nuisance
1206
00:54:02,281 --> 00:54:04,283
that defecates
in our garden bed,
1207
00:54:04,283 --> 00:54:06,160
it mates at one o’clock
in the morning
1208
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,829
in the middle of the street,
that’s the level of our concern.
1209
00:54:08,829 --> 00:54:13,834
But cats do impact negatively
on our environment.
1210
00:54:13,834 --> 00:54:17,212
The only humane way to deal
with the cat population
1211
00:54:17,212 --> 00:54:19,548
is through spay
and neutering them.
1212
00:54:19,548 --> 00:54:22,426
Without it,
it’s totally uncontrolled.
1213
00:54:22,426 --> 00:54:24,136
And my feeling was
1214
00:54:24,136 --> 00:54:28,390
that people expected something
to be done about it.
1215
00:54:28,390 --> 00:54:31,894
So we conducted a survey
basically saying,
1216
00:54:31,894 --> 00:54:34,563
what do you think about it,
what a bylaw might look like?
1217
00:54:34,563 --> 00:54:36,398
♪
1218
00:54:36,398 --> 00:54:39,693
One of the leading questions,
of course, was
1219
00:54:39,693 --> 00:54:42,446
do you think we have a cat
overpopulation problem
1220
00:54:42,446 --> 00:54:45,949
in Cornwall and that something
needs to be done about it?
1221
00:54:45,949 --> 00:54:47,826
Bestow ownership on individuals,
1222
00:54:47,826 --> 00:54:50,412
require that all cats be kept
indoors unless supervised,
1223
00:54:50,412 --> 00:54:53,373
limit the number of cats
in the household to two.
1224
00:54:53,373 --> 00:54:55,792
Very important, of course,
to have community input.
1225
00:54:55,792 --> 00:55:05,719
♪
1226
00:55:10,224 --> 00:55:11,892
We’ve been affected by it.
1227
00:55:11,892 --> 00:55:14,353
It’s quite an ongoing issue.
1228
00:55:14,353 --> 00:55:17,397
It’s getting out of control,
that’s for sure.
1229
00:55:17,397 --> 00:55:19,316
We have to do something
about it.
1230
00:55:19,316 --> 00:55:20,817
♪
1231
00:55:20,817 --> 00:55:26,156
We were simply surprised
at the level of response
1232
00:55:26,156 --> 00:55:28,534
to a cat problem.
1233
00:55:28,534 --> 00:55:37,125
♪
1234
00:55:37,125 --> 00:55:38,919
This is not
my neighbor’s problem,
1235
00:55:38,919 --> 00:55:40,379
this is not my problem,
1236
00:55:40,379 --> 00:55:42,839
this is the entire
community’s problem
1237
00:55:42,839 --> 00:55:44,508
and it’s not going to go away.
1238
00:55:44,508 --> 00:55:48,428
We have to accept that something
has to be done about it
1239
00:55:48,428 --> 00:55:51,765
and there’s probably going to be
a cost to that.
1240
00:55:51,765 --> 00:55:55,394
What I recommended to council
is that in the 2020 budget
1241
00:55:55,394 --> 00:55:59,982
we allocate $40,000
to subsidizing the cost
1242
00:55:59,982 --> 00:56:01,358
of spay and neutering.
1243
00:56:01,358 --> 00:56:03,026
That’s a start.
1244
00:56:03,026 --> 00:56:11,535
♪
1245
00:56:11,535 --> 00:56:14,329
The bylaw that Chris
wants to try and get through,
1246
00:56:14,329 --> 00:56:15,872
"If you feed it, you own it,"
1247
00:56:15,872 --> 00:56:17,541
that is scaring people.
1248
00:56:17,541 --> 00:56:19,167
I don’t want people
to be scared
1249
00:56:19,167 --> 00:56:20,377
and I don’t want people to say,
1250
00:56:20,377 --> 00:56:21,878
"Oh Lord,
there’s a cat out there,
1251
00:56:21,878 --> 00:56:23,630
we can’t be responsible
for it. "
1252
00:56:23,630 --> 00:56:33,432
♪
1253
00:56:33,432 --> 00:56:36,310
The fact that somebody
has enough charity
1254
00:56:36,310 --> 00:56:40,856
to give an animal a little
better chance to survive
1255
00:56:40,856 --> 00:56:44,318
means you own them
is a strange one,
1256
00:56:44,318 --> 00:56:46,778
as far as I’m concerned.
1257
00:56:46,778 --> 00:56:51,617
It goes along with the idea that
if you give somebody some money
1258
00:56:51,617 --> 00:56:55,120
when they’re begging
that you own that person.
1259
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,247
Makes just as much sense.
1260
00:56:57,247 --> 00:57:00,626
♪
1261
00:57:00,626 --> 00:57:03,045
People like Lynda, she’s going
to take care of them,
1262
00:57:03,045 --> 00:57:06,590
and even if the bylaw passes
many people are still going to.
1263
00:57:06,590 --> 00:57:08,216
They don’t want
to see the cats suffer,
1264
00:57:08,216 --> 00:57:10,302
so I don’t blame them.
1265
00:57:12,179 --> 00:57:15,307
Simply feeding a cat,
absolutely, that’s important.
1266
00:57:15,307 --> 00:57:17,351
But if that cat is not spayed
and neutered,
1267
00:57:17,351 --> 00:57:19,811
it’s fueling a cat population
1268
00:57:19,811 --> 00:57:22,564
that we’re trying
to get under control.
1269
00:57:22,564 --> 00:57:24,274
I should just put it down here.
1270
00:57:26,193 --> 00:57:27,986
(bird chirping)
1271
00:57:27,986 --> 00:57:31,031
(hum of passing traffic)
1272
00:57:31,031 --> 00:57:33,700
♪
1273
00:57:33,700 --> 00:57:35,118
The city of Cornwall
could become
1274
00:57:35,118 --> 00:57:36,953
the first municipality
in Ontario
1275
00:57:36,953 --> 00:57:39,665
to require cats
to be kept indoors.
1276
00:57:39,665 --> 00:57:42,209
City staff are proposing
a cat bylaw
1277
00:57:42,209 --> 00:57:43,794
with a number of suggestions:
1278
00:57:43,794 --> 00:57:46,254
all cats must be
spayed and neutered,
1279
00:57:46,254 --> 00:57:48,465
felines must be kept indoors,
1280
00:57:48,465 --> 00:57:51,927
and most extreme,
anybody who feeds a stray cat
1281
00:57:51,927 --> 00:57:54,054
legally becomes its owner.
1282
00:57:54,054 --> 00:57:57,808
But that report came out in May
and nothing has happened since.
1283
00:57:57,808 --> 00:58:00,143
(giggling)
1284
00:58:00,143 --> 00:58:01,812
You feel sleepy?
1285
00:58:01,812 --> 00:58:03,397
(kittens mewing)
1286
00:58:03,397 --> 00:58:05,816
We’ve gone through
a whole kitten season
1287
00:58:05,816 --> 00:58:07,067
and there’s still no money
in the budget,
1288
00:58:07,067 --> 00:58:09,319
so it is frustrating.
1289
00:58:09,319 --> 00:58:12,239
There’s the purring.
Good girl.
1290
00:58:14,533 --> 00:58:16,576
But hopefully moving forward,
1291
00:58:16,576 --> 00:58:19,579
there will be more help
for kittens like them
1292
00:58:19,579 --> 00:58:21,498
because I can’t keep up.
1293
00:58:21,498 --> 00:58:23,125
(mewing)
1294
00:58:24,876 --> 00:58:27,421
(hum of passing traffic)
1295
00:58:27,421 --> 00:58:29,047
How are the cats?
1296
00:58:29,047 --> 00:58:30,757
♪
1297
00:58:30,757 --> 00:58:32,134
The weather’s getting better,
1298
00:58:32,134 --> 00:58:35,595
they were wandering
a little bit more.
1299
00:58:35,595 --> 00:58:37,389
Then Guimauve disappeared.
1300
00:58:37,389 --> 00:58:39,057
♪
1301
00:58:39,057 --> 00:58:43,228
He was here, he ate his evening
meal with the rest of them.
1302
00:58:43,228 --> 00:58:45,063
Spencer and Guimave,
I have a picture
1303
00:58:45,063 --> 00:58:47,190
of the two of them
snuggled up together
1304
00:58:47,190 --> 00:58:49,609
and then that was it,
Guimauve didn’t come back.
1305
00:58:49,609 --> 00:58:51,319
♪
1306
00:58:51,319 --> 00:58:53,739
I know he’s not lost in the area
1307
00:58:53,739 --> 00:58:56,825
because he had such a strong tie
to that porch.
1308
00:58:56,825 --> 00:58:59,953
And I think Guimauve, his
stomach told him where to go
1309
00:58:59,953 --> 00:59:03,123
and a trap that’s set
will have food.
1310
00:59:03,123 --> 00:59:08,920
♪
1311
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,339
I did some looking around.
1312
00:59:11,339 --> 00:59:13,884
There’s three neighbors
that have traps here.
1313
00:59:13,884 --> 00:59:16,303
♪
1314
00:59:16,303 --> 00:59:18,013
When I ask them,
they won’t answer,
1315
00:59:18,013 --> 00:59:21,475
so that’s difficult, knowing
that somebody probably
1316
00:59:21,475 --> 00:59:23,059
has done something.
1317
00:59:23,059 --> 00:59:24,770
♪
1318
00:59:24,770 --> 00:59:26,980
My neighbors were aware
what I was doing.
1319
00:59:26,980 --> 00:59:28,815
♪
1320
00:59:28,815 --> 00:59:31,693
There’s a lot of people
that just aren’t on board.
1321
00:59:31,693 --> 00:59:33,028
It was really tragic.
1322
00:59:33,028 --> 00:59:35,030
♪
1323
00:59:35,030 --> 00:59:37,949
Spencer spent about three or
four days wandering around,
1324
00:59:37,949 --> 00:59:39,451
crying, looking for Guimauve,
1325
00:59:39,451 --> 00:59:41,077
they were really close.
1326
00:59:41,077 --> 00:59:43,371
♪
1327
00:59:43,371 --> 00:59:45,081
They have souls.
1328
00:59:45,081 --> 00:59:47,876
They can’t think like humans,
but they have souls.
1329
00:59:47,876 --> 00:59:49,419
So you do feel responsible,
1330
00:59:49,419 --> 00:59:52,172
that it was my duty
to keep them safe.
1331
00:59:52,172 --> 00:59:54,382
But there’s no boundaries
for feral cats.
1332
00:59:54,382 --> 00:59:58,053
♪
1333
00:59:58,053 --> 01:00:00,472
(wind blowing,
birds chirping)
1334
01:00:05,310 --> 01:00:15,153
♪
1335
01:00:15,153 --> 01:00:16,863
It’s pretty worldwide now.
1336
01:00:16,863 --> 01:00:19,699
I have people from all over
following, which is crazy.
1337
01:00:19,699 --> 01:00:23,286
♪
1338
01:00:23,286 --> 01:00:26,206
If nobody ever talked about it,
we wouldn’t make progress.
1339
01:00:26,206 --> 01:00:28,542
So, I’m glad that people
are starting to realize
1340
01:00:28,542 --> 01:00:30,126
that we have a problem
1341
01:00:30,126 --> 01:00:31,753
and they’re going to have
to do something.
1342
01:00:31,753 --> 01:00:34,297
♪
1343
01:00:34,297 --> 01:00:38,093
(wind blowing)
1344
01:00:38,093 --> 01:00:42,305
(thunder rumbling)
1345
01:00:42,305 --> 01:00:44,683
-I’m hot.
-Anybody gonna come and join us?
1346
01:00:44,683 --> 01:00:48,728
(thunder rumbling)
1347
01:00:48,728 --> 01:00:50,438
Okay, let’s move. .
wanna move over,
1348
01:00:50,438 --> 01:00:52,315
so we’re not blocking.
1349
01:00:52,315 --> 01:00:55,110
Stand right in front
of the doorway.
1350
01:00:55,110 --> 01:00:56,778
Is your sign waterproof?
1351
01:00:56,778 --> 01:00:58,363
I have no idea.
1352
01:00:58,363 --> 01:01:00,115
♪
1353
01:01:00,115 --> 01:01:01,867
(car horn honks, woman yells)
1354
01:01:01,867 --> 01:01:03,702
Hey, maybe. .
1355
01:01:03,702 --> 01:01:05,620
We have people.
1356
01:01:05,620 --> 01:01:06,705
Over there.
1357
01:01:06,705 --> 01:01:07,956
(car horns honking)
1358
01:01:07,956 --> 01:01:09,416
I don’t know them.
1359
01:01:09,416 --> 01:01:10,625
-Are they with us?
-Yeah.
1360
01:01:10,625 --> 01:01:12,043
-Really?
-I think so.
1361
01:01:12,043 --> 01:01:13,461
Thank you!
1362
01:01:13,461 --> 01:01:15,005
(car horns honking)
1363
01:01:15,005 --> 01:01:16,548
♪
1364
01:01:16,548 --> 01:01:20,010
(car horns honking,
people cheering)
1365
01:01:20,010 --> 01:01:22,012
Hi, I’m Mellissa.
Nice to meet you.
1366
01:01:22,012 --> 01:01:23,763
-Hi, Mellissa.
-Thanks for coming, guys.
1367
01:01:23,763 --> 01:01:25,056
You’re so welcome.
1368
01:01:25,056 --> 01:01:26,808
-Love all your signs.
-Thank you!
1369
01:01:26,808 --> 01:01:29,811
-Very nice, wow.
-Yours are waterproof.
1370
01:01:29,811 --> 01:01:31,897
(laughter)
1371
01:01:31,897 --> 01:01:33,815
Thanks so much for everything
you do, by the way.
1372
01:01:33,815 --> 01:01:36,234
I follow the page
like a crazy person.
1373
01:01:36,234 --> 01:01:37,611
(overlapping chatter)
1374
01:01:37,611 --> 01:01:40,405
-This is good.
-I know, I wanna get a picture.
1375
01:01:40,405 --> 01:01:43,158
(car horns honking, cheering)
1376
01:01:43,158 --> 01:01:45,493
Let’s get started.
Sorry for the delay.
1377
01:01:45,493 --> 01:01:49,289
It’s nice to have
a full council chamber.
1378
01:01:49,289 --> 01:01:50,957
The recommendation
is that council
1379
01:01:50,957 --> 01:01:52,792
implement a cat control bylaw
1380
01:01:52,792 --> 01:01:54,753
vitally supported by funding,
1381
01:01:54,753 --> 01:01:56,421
in support
of a five-year timeline
1382
01:01:56,421 --> 01:01:59,591
in which all owned cats
are to be desexed.
1383
01:01:59,591 --> 01:02:02,260
Councillor Grant,
you’re seconding.
1384
01:02:02,260 --> 01:02:03,261
Debate.
1385
01:02:03,261 --> 01:02:05,013
So, Your Worship,
1386
01:02:05,013 --> 01:02:08,558
I’m not completely convinced
we can necessarily implement
1387
01:02:08,558 --> 01:02:10,185
all these regulations.
1388
01:02:10,185 --> 01:02:14,272
How do we realistically
expect to enforce
1389
01:02:14,272 --> 01:02:16,399
some of these provisions?
1390
01:02:16,399 --> 01:02:19,194
I mean, to say, "All cats have
to be kept indoors. "
1391
01:02:19,194 --> 01:02:22,530
Well, if there’s a random cat
wandering the neighborhood,
1392
01:02:22,530 --> 01:02:25,700
how do we know who officially
owns that cat?
1393
01:02:25,700 --> 01:02:28,078
Are we going to
give this person a ticket?
1394
01:02:28,078 --> 01:02:29,913
Through you, Madam Mayor,
that’s why it’s vital
1395
01:02:29,913 --> 01:02:31,456
that cats be licensed.
1396
01:02:31,456 --> 01:02:33,667
So, hopefully,
that cat that is roaming
1397
01:02:33,667 --> 01:02:37,128
can be linked to its owner
by virtue of a tag.
1398
01:02:37,128 --> 01:02:38,672
Okay, thank you.
1399
01:02:38,672 --> 01:02:40,799
Councillor Bergeron
and then Councillor Grant.
1400
01:02:40,799 --> 01:02:42,008
Thank you, Madam Mayor.
1401
01:02:42,008 --> 01:02:44,344
So, when you say cats
must be kept inside,
1402
01:02:44,344 --> 01:02:47,305
as long as they were controlled
in their own yard,
1403
01:02:47,305 --> 01:02:49,641
would you accept that, or. .
1404
01:02:49,641 --> 01:02:52,978
So, it’s really about ensuring
that once a cat is outside
1405
01:02:52,978 --> 01:02:54,521
that it’s supervised.
1406
01:02:54,521 --> 01:02:55,897
Yes, yeah.
1407
01:02:55,897 --> 01:02:58,942
One thing I want to think about
is long term
1408
01:02:58,942 --> 01:03:00,777
and if everybody’s religious
in this
1409
01:03:00,777 --> 01:03:03,196
we won’t have a cat problem
because we won’t have any cats.
1410
01:03:03,196 --> 01:03:04,614
(crowd murmuring)
1411
01:03:04,614 --> 01:03:07,117
When you think about it,
so, I mean. .
1412
01:03:07,117 --> 01:03:09,327
Through you, Madam Mayor,
no bylaw
1413
01:03:09,327 --> 01:03:11,287
is a hundred percent
enforceable.
1414
01:03:11,287 --> 01:03:13,707
There’s a speed limit out here,
in front of this building,
1415
01:03:13,707 --> 01:03:15,792
it’s 50 kilometers an hour.
1416
01:03:15,792 --> 01:03:18,086
Uh, I’m sure if I asked everyone
in this room
1417
01:03:18,086 --> 01:03:20,463
if they have exceeded that
50 miles an hour,
1418
01:03:20,463 --> 01:03:22,173
if they were honest,
they’d say yes.
1419
01:03:22,173 --> 01:03:24,592
Bylaws, they build expectation
1420
01:03:24,592 --> 01:03:27,762
and certainly, there’s that
carrot that says,
1421
01:03:27,762 --> 01:03:30,932
"Oh, if you don’t live up
to that expectation,
1422
01:03:30,932 --> 01:03:34,227
there could be
punitive repercussions. "
1423
01:03:34,227 --> 01:03:36,479
I live in the West End,
and I don’t. .
1424
01:03:36,479 --> 01:03:39,524
we don’t have a roaming cat
problem, that I know.
1425
01:03:39,524 --> 01:03:41,693
Yes, you do.
Yes, you do.
1426
01:03:41,693 --> 01:03:43,445
Is there an area in town
that’s more concentrated
1427
01:03:43,445 --> 01:03:47,532
and is more concerned where this
bylaw would really be effective?
1428
01:03:47,532 --> 01:03:49,367
This has been going on since,
1429
01:03:49,367 --> 01:03:52,829
I think I was in council
15 years ago
1430
01:03:52,829 --> 01:03:54,831
and we were talking about
feral cats then.
1431
01:03:54,831 --> 01:03:56,791
Something has to be done,
1432
01:03:56,791 --> 01:03:59,711
and we’re going to do it
tonight.
1433
01:03:59,711 --> 01:04:03,506
So I’m going to call the vote.
1434
01:04:03,506 --> 01:04:04,716
All in favor?
1435
01:04:04,716 --> 01:04:06,176
(crowd murmuring)
1436
01:04:06,176 --> 01:04:07,802
Carried.
1437
01:04:07,802 --> 01:04:09,095
Thank you.
1438
01:04:09,095 --> 01:04:10,722
(applause, cheering)
1439
01:04:10,722 --> 01:04:12,432
(chatter)
1440
01:04:12,432 --> 01:04:13,641
We did it!
1441
01:04:13,641 --> 01:04:14,809
-We did it.
-We did it.
1442
01:04:14,809 --> 01:04:15,977
-So far.
-Yeah.
1443
01:04:15,977 --> 01:04:17,896
We still have progress to make.
1444
01:04:17,896 --> 01:04:19,814
We can’t, there’s no way
it’s going backwards now.
1445
01:04:19,814 --> 01:04:21,232
No, there’s just no way.
1446
01:04:21,232 --> 01:04:23,068
They can’t now.
1447
01:04:23,068 --> 01:04:25,904
If it’s a five-year plan,
that’s still really long.
1448
01:04:25,904 --> 01:04:29,115
That’s a lot of kittens that
could be born in five years.
1449
01:04:29,115 --> 01:04:32,869
But five years is still better
than zero years.
1450
01:04:32,869 --> 01:04:34,996
Like, at least
we’re moving forward.
1451
01:04:34,996 --> 01:04:37,332
And finally, they’re going to do
something about it.
1452
01:04:37,332 --> 01:04:40,085
A lot of them don’t agree on the
"Feed it, you own it" bylaw,
1453
01:04:40,085 --> 01:04:43,171
which I don’t either,
but that’s one of the problems.
1454
01:04:43,171 --> 01:04:45,799
We’ll figure it out over
the years and we’ll iron it out.
1455
01:04:45,799 --> 01:04:47,550
♪
1456
01:04:47,550 --> 01:04:49,928
The lifespan of cats
is much shorter
1457
01:04:49,928 --> 01:04:52,222
if you have them
as outdoor cats,
1458
01:04:52,222 --> 01:04:54,682
and yet some cat owners
still believe,
1459
01:04:54,682 --> 01:04:57,685
"My cat will be unhappy
if it’s indoors,
1460
01:04:57,685 --> 01:05:00,021
so I’d rather let it outside
where it’s dangerous. "
1461
01:05:00,021 --> 01:05:04,067
♪
1462
01:05:04,067 --> 01:05:05,985
I mean, humans are smart,
1463
01:05:05,985 --> 01:05:09,322
but at the same time,
they’re very simpleminded
1464
01:05:09,322 --> 01:05:11,866
because it’s an easy fix
1465
01:05:11,866 --> 01:05:15,370
to encourage people
to keep their cats indoors.
1466
01:05:15,370 --> 01:05:17,789
It’s harder
to put the forest back.
1467
01:05:17,789 --> 01:05:25,463
♪
1468
01:05:25,463 --> 01:05:28,299
Mellissa Alepins
and Mary Jane Proulx.
1469
01:05:28,299 --> 01:05:29,676
Extraordinary people,
1470
01:05:29,676 --> 01:05:32,679
extraordinarily compassionate,
caring,
1471
01:05:32,679 --> 01:05:36,391
and, you know, not expecting any
sort of acknowledgement for it.
1472
01:05:36,391 --> 01:05:40,728
Just doing it out of sheer
compassion and caring.
1473
01:05:40,728 --> 01:05:43,773
After all, we domesticated
these animals, right?
1474
01:05:43,773 --> 01:05:45,608
They can no longer
look after themselves.
1475
01:05:45,608 --> 01:05:48,027
♪
1476
01:05:48,027 --> 01:05:49,988
I guess at this point,
we’re just waiting to see
1477
01:05:49,988 --> 01:05:52,866
when they’re gonna actually
make the money official
1478
01:05:52,866 --> 01:05:55,577
and then pass the bylaws.
1479
01:05:55,577 --> 01:05:57,662
I’ll probably do this forever.
1480
01:05:57,662 --> 01:06:01,207
I love it, so in that sense,
it’s good that there’s no end,
1481
01:06:01,207 --> 01:06:03,626
but it’s really sad because
these are generally orphans
1482
01:06:03,626 --> 01:06:06,337
that I take,
so they don’t have a mom.
1483
01:06:06,337 --> 01:06:08,965
And it took us, Mellissa and I,
to fight this hard.
1484
01:06:08,965 --> 01:06:11,467
We had to have protests
and we had to fight,
1485
01:06:11,467 --> 01:06:13,761
and I had to run for council.
1486
01:06:13,761 --> 01:06:16,306
Like run for council,
me run for council? Come on.
1487
01:06:16,306 --> 01:06:19,267
♪
1488
01:06:19,267 --> 01:06:21,603
It pays to fight.
It really does.
1489
01:06:21,603 --> 01:06:23,771
If you have a passion
and if you believe
1490
01:06:23,771 --> 01:06:26,316
you’re doing the right thing,
do it.
1491
01:06:26,316 --> 01:06:28,985
♪
1492
01:06:28,985 --> 01:06:31,404
A cat can have
thousands of babies
1493
01:06:31,404 --> 01:06:32,864
and then their babies
have babies
1494
01:06:32,864 --> 01:06:34,824
and then their babies
have babies.
1495
01:06:34,824 --> 01:06:36,159
It just never ends.
1496
01:06:36,159 --> 01:06:38,244
♪
1497
01:06:38,244 --> 01:06:39,662
Never ends.
1498
01:06:39,662 --> 01:06:49,589
♪
1499
01:07:19,118 --> 01:07:20,787
(cat meowing)
1500
01:07:24,624 --> 01:07:34,550
♪
1501
01:08:36,112 --> 01:08:39,115
♪
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