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Come in.
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Hi. You're Walter?
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- Yeah. Hi. Heidi?
- Yes.
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All right.
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That's nice.
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That. Yeah.
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- You like fish?
- Not especially.
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It was here when I got here.
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I've decided it's soothing.
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I feel kind of soothed.
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Oh, good.
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Have a seat, please.
We can get started.
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And if you don't mind, I'd like
to record just for my reference.
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- Oh, no, it's fine.
- Okay, great.
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And... oh.
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This is new
and it's a bit bewildering.
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I apologize.
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Oh. There we are.
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Um, it's April 10, 2018.
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This is Heidi Bergman, I'm with
Homecoming client Walter Cruz.
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Week one, session one.
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Mrs. Trotter.
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Hello?
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- Hmm.
- Yeah. Drink some coffee.
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AJ, we talked about this.
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I just need you to help me
with this one thing.
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I work here.
We're not scamming the people...
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It's not a scam.
What about this is a scam?
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- Uh, everything.
- Heidi.
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Heidi, random question.
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Would you want to know
if you could
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double or triple your net worth?
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Does that sound like a scam?
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You can't triple nothing, AJ.
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Four, pick it up.
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See? Get out of here.
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Do you know what you'd like?
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Um, no, I...
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All right, well, take your time.
I'll come back.
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No, I'm-I'm sorry,
I'm-I'm not here to eat.
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Heidi? Is that your name?
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Yes.
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H-Heidi Bergman. Correct?
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Yeah. Do I know you?
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Um, I'm Thomas Carrasco
with the DoD IG.
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- The what?
- The Department of Defense?
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Office of the Inspector General?
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Are you asking me?
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No, sorry, it is...
It's-it's a...
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And you're Heidi Bergman.
You were employed
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at the Homecoming Transitional
Support Center?
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Oh, um, yes.
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I mean, years ago.
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- How many?
- How many what?
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How many years ago
did you work at Homecoming?
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Uh, I-I don't know, maybe four?
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What is this about?
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We received a complaint
about that program,
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and you're
the listed admin, so...
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- I'm... I don't, um...
- The soldiers,
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uh, that you treated
there, how...
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how-how were they...
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Um, why don't you go outside,
and I will get a break
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and come talk to you?
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Sure. Right-right now?
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- Yeah. I'll just...
- I'll just meet you out there?
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-Right outside the door. Yes.
-I'll meet you out there
right outside.
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Right outside? Right outside.
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Okay, Walter Cruz,
26 years old, three tours.
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- You got here when, Friday?
- Yeah. Friday.
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Wonderful. So I am supposed
to read you this welcome.
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And I warn you,
it is very, very boring.
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- Okay.
- Okay.
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"Welcome, Walter Cruz,
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"to the Homecoming
Transitional Support Center.
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"First, allow me to thank you,
on behalf of the president
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"and a grateful nation
for your valuable service.
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We thank you
for keeping us safe."
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It's cheesy, I know.
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No. No, it's fine.
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"My name is Heidi Bergman,
and I am your case worker
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"for this reintegration process.
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"Our facility is a safe space
for you to process
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"your military experience
and refamiliarize yourself
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with civilian life
in a monitored environment."
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Which just means
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getting you situated
now that you're back.
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Career-wise, health-wise.
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Basically, I work for you.
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Okay.
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All right, so the only...
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I don't want to say
"mandatory"... but...
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- But mandatory?
- Yeah, I guess.
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The only mandatory elements
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are the group meals
in the cafeteria,
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the workshops
which you'll hear about,
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and, um, these meetings with me,
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which hopefully
won't be too painful.
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Well, that sounds great.
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I-I want to be in compliance
with all this.
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"Compliance." Wow.
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No, I,
I mean, I know why I'm here.
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You know, other guys, they came
home and they got really amped
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and just dove right into
everything and then...
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and they had problems.
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And I don't want to end up
like them, but... I'm eager.
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Eager for what?
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Just, like, a life?
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Busy, clean life.
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I don't want to pollute things
here with my problems,
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my stress, or whatever,
so I just...
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I want to put it all behind me.
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I see.
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Um, and you acknowledge
that your participation
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in the Homecoming initiative
is voluntary and uncoerced?
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I just need you
to verbally acknowledge that.
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Oh. Yeah. Yes. I do.
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This is Heidi Bergman
for Walter Cruz.
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I see no obstacles
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to approving Cruz
for subgroup placement
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and starting him on...
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- Hi, Colin.
- Yeah, H-Heidi?
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Connection's really shoddy.
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- You-you there?
- I-I'm here. Can you hear me?
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Yeah. Yeah. I-I barely got you.
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Uh, hmm. Can I, can I help you
with something?
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Uh... fuck.
What was I gonna ask?
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Nope, it's totally gone now.
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- I... what was I gonna...?
- Oh, shit.
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Well, anyway,
I'm at the new laboratory.
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Um, how does it look over there?
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Everything's up and running.
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You're gonna have
a totally consistent supply now.
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- That's great.
- You can just focus
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- on working with the guys.
- And it's the same medication?
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- There's no change in...
- Yeah... oh-oh, Heidi,
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let's not throw that word
around the facility, okay?
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Now that the guys have moved in,
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we should be,
you know, discreet.
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Right. Okay.
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- Hey, how's it all going there?
- Well...
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Yeah, I know, an office building
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isn't the ideal
clinical environment.
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Oh, no, it's-it's fine.
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The staff
has really been helpful,
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and we've got all the office
stuff out of the way.
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A-And the decor,
Heidi, the vibe?
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I told them we want
hip but masculine.
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- Right.
- How's that looking?
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Uh, it looks good.
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Yeah, the decorator
did a great job.
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Okay, perfect.
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You know, we're gonna be
in a more legitimate setting
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as soon as we have some results.
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Right. Well, actually,
the guys don't seem to mind,
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- and, uh...
- Okay, but you understand
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the urgency here, right?
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We need the data.
That's the key.
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- Of course.
- I've got that presentation
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at the DoD in six weeks.
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We need to have everything
squared away by then.
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- Understood?
- Understood.
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Okay, so how soon do you think
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you might have that for me?
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- Have what?
- The data, Heidi.
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-Y-Y-You're pushing on that,
right?
-Oh.
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Absolutely, yeah,
and I think we're seeing...
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'Cause we need to be
surgically precise in this.
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-Everything these guys
remember...
-Yes, of course.
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We have to get really granular
with all that shit.
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Okay. Absolutely.
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I just... if you can
just give me one sec, um,
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I just had a session, actually,
with a Walter Cruz.
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He is a great candidate,
really, really eager to be here.
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No, Heidi, Heidi, Heidi,
I-I don't have a lot of time.
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I got to be at the airport
in, like, 32 minutes.
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I-I-I'll be quick.
I was just thinking,
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in terms of being granular,
as you said, and deliberate,
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that perhaps we could take
a more holistic approach
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to the initial stages
of the treatment.
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Holistic?
- Well, I feel like
we're just kind of
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throwing them into the process
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without developing
much of a relationship.
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Yeah, okay, Heidi,
I'm gonna stop you there.
- Okay.
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Okay, what we're seeking
here, Heidi, is information,
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not relationships, not rapport,
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whatever these men
are holding onto,
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that's exactly what
we need to know.
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No, I get that.
I just, in terms of...
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Okay, well, based on what
you just said, you don't,
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so I need you to 180
on this, okay?
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Um... yeah, okay.
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I just was thinking of in terms
of improving the data and...
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Heidi, if I go into the DoD and
I say things like "holistic,"
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you know what they're gonna...
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No, I don't even know
what they would do.
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We need real proof
of concept here,
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just a house of data to drop
on the appropriations people
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so they shut their mouths,
stop prevaricating,
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and open up
the approval process.
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- That's our goal. Understood?
- Understood. Yeah.
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You're a rock star, Heidi.
I'm serious.
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It's all great work.
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I just need that aggressive,
constant focus from you
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and we're gonna be fine. Okay?
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Okay. You got it. Thanks, Colin.
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Okay, I'm running
to the airport.
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This flight's
like 22 hours long.
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All right. Have a good trip.
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Guys, what the hell is all this?
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We, we can't have crap
all over the floor.
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If that's everything, Colin,
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I'm just, I'm running
a little late getting home.
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This stuff is going
to America, all right?
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You know, USA?
Yeah, so it's got to be clean.
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Colin, are you talking to me?
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This... it's got to be
a sterile facility, okay?
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Sterile, clean? How... how
the hell do you say "sterile..."
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Okay. I'm-I'm gonna let you go
and...
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W-Wait, Heidi, wait!
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-I remember what
I was gonna ask.
-Oh, great.
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Did we run the background check
on the busboys?
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Background check the what?
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On... damn it. The busboys.
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Did we background check
the busboys?
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Whoever we've got working
in the cafeteria.
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-Uh, I-I didn't realize
that was part of my job.
-What?
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Uh, well, of course
it's part of...
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Okay. Listen, Heidi, we need
to be extremely thorough
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with the food service.
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Now, you are my point person
there, right?
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- Yes, absolutely.
- Great.
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So I need you to get
into that tonight.
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Okay?
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Busboys, caterers, whatever.
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Background checks,
full workup, okay?
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We got to be, we got to be
seamless about all this.
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Understood?
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Okay. I'm on it right away.
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Okay, good. Got to go.
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Hey, Heidi. You are killing it.
Fist bump.
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Hi.
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In here.
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Something smells good.
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- It's cacio e pepe.
- Oh, nice.
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All right, I just have a little
work to finish upstairs.
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I'll be back.
248
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This is, um, good. Thank you.
249
00:12:35,046 --> 00:12:38,425
- It's a little cold now, but...
- I'm sorry.
250
00:12:38,467 --> 00:12:39,634
I was upstairs much longer
than I expected.
251
00:12:39,676 --> 00:12:41,636
I just needed to check
some things for Colin.
252
00:12:41,678 --> 00:12:45,432
- He's a micromanager, huh?
- No, he's not a...
253
00:12:45,474 --> 00:12:46,933
Colin's a busy guy.
254
00:12:46,975 --> 00:12:48,643
We have a lot of things
to get through.
255
00:12:48,685 --> 00:12:53,523
Oh. Okay. Well, you're here now.
256
00:12:59,779 --> 00:13:02,491
What did you get up to today?
257
00:13:02,532 --> 00:13:07,662
Ah, well, I ended up taking
an amazing walk, actually.
258
00:13:07,704 --> 00:13:10,332
Out to that little airfield.
259
00:13:10,373 --> 00:13:13,418
The one past the highway?
That's like five miles away.
260
00:13:13,460 --> 00:13:15,003
- Is it?
- Yeah.
261
00:13:15,045 --> 00:13:18,924
- You walked there?
- Yeah. Guess I did.
262
00:13:18,965 --> 00:13:21,259
Anyway, there was this jet
out on the runway,
263
00:13:21,301 --> 00:13:24,262
and the pilot, and he's
leaning up against the plane,
264
00:13:24,304 --> 00:13:26,598
and he's got his paper
and a coffee and I thought,
265
00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,266
"Wow. I wonder
if I could do that."
266
00:13:28,308 --> 00:13:30,644
What?
267
00:13:30,685 --> 00:13:34,272
Live like that. Fly all over.
Come back here.
268
00:13:34,314 --> 00:13:37,025
It's beautiful here.
269
00:13:43,657 --> 00:13:46,576
- So we started chatting...
- Who?
270
00:13:46,618 --> 00:13:48,036
- Um, well, the...
- You and the pilot?
271
00:13:48,078 --> 00:13:49,579
Yeah, and he said
there's a flight school.
272
00:13:49,621 --> 00:13:51,665
- It's not too far from here.
- Anthony.
273
00:13:51,706 --> 00:13:53,083
I really appreciate you
274
00:13:53,124 --> 00:13:54,793
coming down here to help me
with the move, I do.
275
00:13:54,834 --> 00:13:56,962
Wait, wait. Before we start
talking like this...
276
00:13:57,003 --> 00:13:58,255
You've got your entire life
to get back to.
277
00:13:58,296 --> 00:14:00,048
- Do I? Really?
- Yes, and your job.
278
00:14:00,090 --> 00:14:01,758
At Keebler? I hate that job.
279
00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,928
- Okay, um...
- Wait, Heidi.
280
00:14:04,970 --> 00:14:07,472
-We've been together
almost a year now.
-A year?
281
00:14:07,514 --> 00:14:09,933
Well, yeah, we started texting
in August, so that's like...
282
00:14:09,975 --> 00:14:11,810
Right. Okay.
283
00:14:11,851 --> 00:14:13,687
Yeah, like ten months? But I...
284
00:14:13,728 --> 00:14:15,438
and I know you always said you
wanted to keep things simple.
285
00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,190
- I did. I do.
- I get it.
286
00:14:17,232 --> 00:14:19,401
But the truth is you inspire me.
287
00:14:19,442 --> 00:14:20,819
After all those false starts,
288
00:14:20,860 --> 00:14:23,905
you got out of that town
and found a calling.
289
00:14:23,947 --> 00:14:27,701
You're helping those guys and
it's finally happening for you.
290
00:14:27,742 --> 00:14:30,829
- I inspire you? Do...
- I'm sorry?
291
00:14:30,870 --> 00:14:32,747
What do I inspire you to do?
292
00:14:32,789 --> 00:14:36,751
Well, just...
just make a fresh start.
293
00:14:36,793 --> 00:14:39,629
You know.
294
00:14:39,671 --> 00:14:42,465
Leave the past behind like
you're doing, but together.
295
00:15:02,110 --> 00:15:05,447
So, you've been
in a leadership position before?
296
00:15:05,488 --> 00:15:08,116
- That's right. Yeah.
- Good. That's good.
297
00:15:08,158 --> 00:15:09,451
And you don't mind
working nights?
298
00:15:09,492 --> 00:15:11,911
- Nights? No, I could do that.
- Okay.
299
00:15:11,953 --> 00:15:14,873
Now, you don't seem to have
much experience in this field.
300
00:15:14,914 --> 00:15:16,374
Is that right?
301
00:15:16,416 --> 00:15:18,877
That is true,
but I'm a really fast learner.
302
00:15:18,918 --> 00:15:20,962
Okay. I like hearing that.
303
00:15:21,004 --> 00:15:22,589
All right.
Well, that should do it.
304
00:15:22,631 --> 00:15:24,049
Thank you so much for coming in.
305
00:15:24,090 --> 00:15:25,508
- We'll, uh, let you know soon.
- Thank you.
306
00:15:25,550 --> 00:15:26,926
That was great.
That was really, really great.
307
00:15:26,968 --> 00:15:28,928
That was wonderful.
308
00:15:28,970 --> 00:15:31,097
I really like the part where you
ask me about my experience
309
00:15:31,139 --> 00:15:32,849
working at the store
because an interview,
310
00:15:32,891 --> 00:15:34,184
it's a conversation,
essentially, right?
311
00:15:34,225 --> 00:15:35,769
It's a two-way street.
312
00:15:35,810 --> 00:15:37,729
So that was really, really nice.
Thanks a lot.
313
00:15:37,771 --> 00:15:40,523
- Good job.
- Good job, dude.
314
00:15:40,565 --> 00:15:43,360
- Appreciate it, bro.
- Yeah, you fucking nailed it.
315
00:15:43,401 --> 00:15:45,779
In a couple years, think you'll
be assistant manager.
316
00:15:45,820 --> 00:15:47,864
And a couple years after that...
317
00:15:47,906 --> 00:15:49,741
Assistant regional manager.
318
00:15:49,783 --> 00:15:52,869
Let's see here.
Okay, how about Rainey?
319
00:15:59,959 --> 00:16:02,337
-All right. You're week four,
is that right?
-Yeah.
320
00:16:02,379 --> 00:16:05,674
Okay. So a month from now, you
could be doing this for real.
321
00:16:05,715 --> 00:16:07,926
Working at a shoe store?
322
00:16:07,967 --> 00:16:09,928
Whatever you choose to do,
this could be good practice.
323
00:16:09,969 --> 00:16:12,138
Okay? All right, so let's start.
324
00:16:12,180 --> 00:16:15,350
- Great. Welcome. Hi.
- Hi.
325
00:16:15,392 --> 00:16:17,686
This is my shoe store. I own it.
326
00:16:19,729 --> 00:16:21,606
Wow. All this?
327
00:16:21,648 --> 00:16:23,900
- Could I take
a look at your résumé?
328
00:16:23,942 --> 00:16:25,402
Thanks.
329
00:16:25,443 --> 00:16:27,904
Okay. I see here that you served
in the military.
330
00:16:27,946 --> 00:16:29,322
Yeah, I do.
331
00:16:29,364 --> 00:16:30,990
That's great. We love that.
332
00:16:31,032 --> 00:16:33,827
So, what is something
you learned in the military
333
00:16:33,868 --> 00:16:37,163
that you could apply to your
work here at the shoe store?
334
00:16:37,205 --> 00:16:38,915
Not too much, honestly.
335
00:16:38,957 --> 00:16:41,292
Okay, but just give it a try.
336
00:16:41,334 --> 00:16:43,586
Okay?
337
00:16:43,628 --> 00:16:45,839
It was a fucking desert. There
weren't too many shoe stores.
338
00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,508
Okay, right,
but I remember last week
339
00:16:48,550 --> 00:16:51,094
you were talking
about, um, communication
340
00:16:51,136 --> 00:16:54,013
between team members and how
important that is for you guys.
341
00:16:54,055 --> 00:16:56,933
- Right?
- I was?
342
00:16:56,975 --> 00:17:00,353
Rainey, just humor me
a little. Okay? Please.
343
00:17:00,395 --> 00:17:04,899
I don't know. Shoes. Uh...
344
00:17:04,941 --> 00:17:07,736
you got to find the right size
or you could get infected.
345
00:17:07,777 --> 00:17:09,988
Okay. No, no, that's good,
346
00:17:10,029 --> 00:17:11,239
that's good,
there's something there.
347
00:17:11,281 --> 00:17:13,533
Could you tell me
more about that?
348
00:17:13,575 --> 00:17:15,368
I just, I had
this one pair of boots
349
00:17:15,410 --> 00:17:16,786
that was too small for me,
350
00:17:16,828 --> 00:17:18,538
and I was lazy or stubborn
or whatever...
351
00:17:18,580 --> 00:17:20,790
Oh, lazy and stubborn?
You're the full package, huh?
352
00:17:20,832 --> 00:17:23,752
- Huh? What the fuck
you just say?
Don't worry about that.
353
00:17:23,793 --> 00:17:25,545
Hey, shut that out.
Don't worry about it.
354
00:17:25,587 --> 00:17:26,755
Let's just keep it right here,
let's stay
355
00:17:26,796 --> 00:17:28,214
in the shoe store. Rainey.
356
00:17:28,256 --> 00:17:30,884
Rainey. All right?
357
00:17:30,925 --> 00:17:32,969
Now, what were you saying?
Talking about infection, right?
358
00:17:36,431 --> 00:17:41,019
Yeah, just that I kept
wearing them, and over time,
359
00:17:41,060 --> 00:17:43,062
I skinned the front
of my big toe off,
360
00:17:43,104 --> 00:17:46,149
and then there was fungus
and it got infected,
361
00:17:46,191 --> 00:17:48,109
and by the time I had someone
look at it, they were like,
362
00:17:48,151 --> 00:17:49,944
"What the fuck is wrong with
you? You almost lost your toe."
363
00:17:49,986 --> 00:17:51,780
So, yeah, shoes.
364
00:17:55,325 --> 00:17:56,951
Okay, that was interesting.
365
00:17:56,993 --> 00:17:59,621
Um, yeah, personal anecdote,
366
00:17:59,662 --> 00:18:01,289
is always... you know,
I feel like in a,
367
00:18:01,331 --> 00:18:03,041
in an environment
like this, however...
368
00:18:03,082 --> 00:18:04,793
I get what we're trying
to do here. It's unnecessary.
369
00:18:04,834 --> 00:18:07,712
- What's not necessary?
- This is. I have a job.
370
00:18:07,754 --> 00:18:09,881
You have a job?
Rainey, we're talking about
371
00:18:09,923 --> 00:18:11,299
what's next for you.
372
00:18:11,341 --> 00:18:12,926
- Your next chapter.
- My next chapter?
373
00:18:12,967 --> 00:18:15,094
My whole fucking book is over
there. All right, Craig?
374
00:18:15,136 --> 00:18:17,263
Look, this is just an exercise
to help you acclimate...
375
00:18:17,305 --> 00:18:19,641
-I understand what it is,
and it's ridiculous.
-What's ridiculous?
376
00:18:19,682 --> 00:18:21,434
- This, bro. You...
- Chill, Rainey.
377
00:18:21,476 --> 00:18:23,770
Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
378
00:18:25,396 --> 00:18:27,398
Okay. Relax.
379
00:18:28,900 --> 00:18:30,819
Fuck.
380
00:18:30,860 --> 00:18:32,445
Let's take a breath.
381
00:18:32,487 --> 00:18:35,323
And then my buddy Shrier
pulled me off.
382
00:18:35,365 --> 00:18:36,866
Okay, then what happened?
383
00:18:36,908 --> 00:18:38,910
Then nothing.
Counselor sent us
384
00:18:38,952 --> 00:18:40,703
back to our rooms and then
they told me to come here.
385
00:18:40,745 --> 00:18:42,121
How do you feel about that?
386
00:18:42,163 --> 00:18:43,331
About what?
387
00:18:43,373 --> 00:18:44,958
About what just happened.
388
00:18:44,999 --> 00:18:47,919
I guess embarrassed.
389
00:18:47,961 --> 00:18:49,337
Why?
390
00:18:49,379 --> 00:18:51,923
Well, because I lost control
of myself.
391
00:18:51,965 --> 00:18:53,466
- But he hit you.
- No, he didn't.
392
00:18:53,508 --> 00:18:56,761
No, he did.
Says right here, uh,
393
00:18:56,803 --> 00:18:58,721
"Cruz confronted Rainey,
who struck Cruz..."
394
00:18:58,763 --> 00:19:00,557
Yeah, I know, but...
395
00:19:00,598 --> 00:19:03,935
it just doesn't feel like me,
to react like that.
396
00:19:03,977 --> 00:19:05,270
And that worries you.
397
00:19:05,311 --> 00:19:07,272
Yeah, it does.
398
00:19:07,313 --> 00:19:09,691
I mean, you know,
Rainey's obviously dealing
399
00:19:09,732 --> 00:19:11,901
with his own shit,
and so it came out sideways.
400
00:19:11,943 --> 00:19:14,112
Happens to us all sometimes,
me included.
401
00:19:14,153 --> 00:19:15,488
How does it happen to you?
402
00:19:15,530 --> 00:19:18,241
Different ways.
403
00:19:18,283 --> 00:19:20,410
Give me an example?
404
00:19:20,451 --> 00:19:24,163
Uh, it's mostly like, uh,
I'll get these flashes...
405
00:19:24,205 --> 00:19:26,583
Things I could do
to myself, it's...
406
00:19:26,624 --> 00:19:28,251
it's just tension.
407
00:19:28,293 --> 00:19:29,752
For sure.
408
00:19:31,337 --> 00:19:34,382
Okay, here's an example.
409
00:19:34,424 --> 00:19:38,219
I-I wouldn't
really do this, but...
410
00:19:38,261 --> 00:19:41,556
there's this desk in my room.
411
00:19:41,598 --> 00:19:46,144
It's wooden and it's got
these sharp corners
412
00:19:46,185 --> 00:19:48,229
and when I first got here,
413
00:19:48,271 --> 00:19:50,148
I don't know why,
I just imagined myself
414
00:19:50,189 --> 00:19:52,692
sitting down in a chair
and leaning all the way back
415
00:19:52,734 --> 00:19:53,902
and, like, slamming my forehead
416
00:19:53,943 --> 00:19:56,696
into the corner of the table.
417
00:19:56,738 --> 00:19:58,656
Just like jamming it
into right here.
418
00:20:01,993 --> 00:20:05,914
But I mean,
that was an extreme, it...
419
00:20:05,955 --> 00:20:07,916
it doesn't always
happen like that.
420
00:20:07,957 --> 00:20:09,876
How often would you say?
421
00:20:13,338 --> 00:20:15,632
I'm so sorry.
422
00:20:15,673 --> 00:20:18,134
There's this bird.
423
00:20:18,176 --> 00:20:20,470
He'll stop in a second.
424
00:20:20,511 --> 00:20:23,056
- That's incredible.
- No, that's driving me crazy.
425
00:20:23,097 --> 00:20:25,099
He's some kind
of protected species,
426
00:20:25,141 --> 00:20:26,976
and we're not allowed
to touch him.
427
00:20:27,018 --> 00:20:29,187
Well, I could take care
of him for you if you want.
428
00:20:29,228 --> 00:20:30,939
- Would you?
- No problem.
429
00:20:30,980 --> 00:20:32,398
Dead of night, full camo.
430
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,067
He'd wake up in the Everglades,
everybody wins.
431
00:20:34,108 --> 00:20:38,321
I'd love that. Honestly,
I would be forever in your debt.
432
00:20:41,199 --> 00:20:43,159
See?
433
00:20:43,201 --> 00:20:44,577
Gone.
434
00:20:44,619 --> 00:20:46,746
Did it with my mind.
435
00:20:48,414 --> 00:20:51,250
Um...
436
00:20:51,292 --> 00:20:53,753
Thank you.
437
00:20:53,795 --> 00:20:56,965
What about sleeping? Are you
having any trouble with that?
438
00:20:58,841 --> 00:21:00,802
Yeah, a little.
439
00:21:00,843 --> 00:21:02,428
Nightmares, things like that.
440
00:21:02,470 --> 00:21:04,138
That's very normal.
441
00:21:04,180 --> 00:21:05,515
We could see if one of the guys
442
00:21:05,556 --> 00:21:06,975
wants a roommate
for a few nights.
443
00:21:07,016 --> 00:21:08,267
- What do you mean?
- Well, some of the guys,
444
00:21:08,309 --> 00:21:10,186
when they first get here,
and they have a room
445
00:21:10,228 --> 00:21:11,938
all to themselves, they're
separate from their unit,
446
00:21:11,980 --> 00:21:13,898
it's just a little too quiet,
you know?
447
00:21:13,940 --> 00:21:15,650
So we could ask around.
448
00:21:15,692 --> 00:21:18,903
Okay. Maybe.
449
00:21:18,945 --> 00:21:20,571
Maybe Shrier.
450
00:21:20,613 --> 00:21:22,240
Yeah, I'd be okay with that.
451
00:21:22,281 --> 00:21:23,950
That's allowed?
452
00:21:23,992 --> 00:21:25,576
Of course.
453
00:21:25,618 --> 00:21:27,328
We're here to help you
make this transition.
454
00:21:27,370 --> 00:21:29,914
Whatever supports that,
that's what we're gonna do.
455
00:21:35,837 --> 00:21:37,380
Got two minutes.
456
00:21:37,422 --> 00:21:38,673
I appreciate your cooperation...
457
00:21:38,715 --> 00:21:40,299
Back away from the door
a little bit.
458
00:21:40,341 --> 00:21:43,052
- Sure.
- Thanks.
459
00:21:45,221 --> 00:21:48,516
- So?
- Yeah, so...
460
00:21:48,558 --> 00:21:52,270
You-you did work at Homecoming,
at the Tampa facility?
461
00:21:52,311 --> 00:21:53,813
Yeah. Years ago. I-I said that.
462
00:21:53,855 --> 00:21:55,398
What-what's this about?
463
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,900
Well, my department,
we field and review complaints,
464
00:21:57,942 --> 00:21:59,694
and I'm currently following up
on certain allegations...
465
00:21:59,736 --> 00:22:01,696
- About me?
- The...
466
00:22:01,738 --> 00:22:04,198
No.
467
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,616
Okay, so then...
468
00:22:05,658 --> 00:22:07,285
But you were
an administrator there. Correct?
469
00:22:07,326 --> 00:22:09,871
I was a counselor.
470
00:22:09,912 --> 00:22:12,498
A counselor. All right.
471
00:22:12,540 --> 00:22:15,793
Um, and why did you
leave that job?
472
00:22:15,835 --> 00:22:18,337
I quit.
473
00:22:18,379 --> 00:22:20,882
- Why?
- My mother got hurt
474
00:22:20,923 --> 00:22:22,717
and I had to come home
and take care of her.
475
00:22:22,759 --> 00:22:25,553
So you quit the job in Tampa
'cause your mom got hurt
476
00:22:25,595 --> 00:22:27,972
and now you work here
at this restaurant?
477
00:22:28,014 --> 00:22:29,724
Well, I, you know,
it's-it's what I could get.
478
00:22:29,766 --> 00:22:31,309
But I had
to come back home and...
479
00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:33,770
- 'Cause your mom got hurt.
- Yes.
480
00:22:33,811 --> 00:22:35,146
And is your current employer,
are they aware...
481
00:22:35,188 --> 00:22:36,898
What does that have
to do with anything?
482
00:22:36,939 --> 00:22:40,026
I'm just...
You didn't want to talk inside.
483
00:22:40,068 --> 00:22:41,402
- Yo!
- Yes.
484
00:22:41,444 --> 00:22:42,820
You okay?
485
00:22:42,862 --> 00:22:44,822
- Yeah. Yeah.
- Really?
486
00:22:44,864 --> 00:22:46,741
Yeah. I'll be back
in just a second.
487
00:22:46,783 --> 00:22:49,202
- Okay.
- Thanks.
488
00:22:49,243 --> 00:22:51,204
It's a little embarrassing,
okay?
489
00:22:51,245 --> 00:22:53,247
I had this whole career,
and then I had to come back,
490
00:22:53,289 --> 00:22:55,249
and now I do this. All right?
491
00:22:55,291 --> 00:22:57,251
What were your duties there?
492
00:22:57,293 --> 00:22:59,295
I was a counselor. I told you.
493
00:22:59,337 --> 00:23:00,922
And what did that involve?
494
00:23:00,963 --> 00:23:03,716
Um, I worked with soldiers,
their mental health.
495
00:23:03,758 --> 00:23:06,302
Honestly, I don't remember
much about it. Okay?
496
00:23:06,344 --> 00:23:09,180
I was... it wasn't
a good fit for me.
497
00:23:09,222 --> 00:23:10,807
Are we done?
498
00:23:10,848 --> 00:23:13,434
Ms. Bergman,
I'm simply trying to get
499
00:23:13,476 --> 00:23:15,353
some basic information
about the program.
500
00:23:15,394 --> 00:23:16,979
It's not my intention
to agitate.
501
00:23:17,021 --> 00:23:19,357
I am not agitated.
502
00:23:22,068 --> 00:23:23,903
C-Can you tell me
if your clients were there
503
00:23:23,945 --> 00:23:25,947
on a voluntary basis, or...?
504
00:23:25,988 --> 00:23:28,449
I don't know.
505
00:23:28,491 --> 00:23:30,326
You don't know?
506
00:23:30,368 --> 00:23:33,162
Do you have a badge?
507
00:23:33,204 --> 00:23:35,915
Do you have some kind
of identification?
508
00:23:37,166 --> 00:23:40,545
Uh, I have a business card.
509
00:23:44,173 --> 00:23:47,009
As I explained,
we received a complaint.
510
00:23:47,051 --> 00:23:49,846
This was four years ago,
during your time there.
511
00:23:49,887 --> 00:23:52,974
Specifically, that one...
512
00:23:55,017 --> 00:23:56,978
"One of the soldiers,
he wants to leave,
513
00:23:57,019 --> 00:24:00,148
h-he wants to go home,
but they won't let him."
514
00:24:00,189 --> 00:24:04,443
My question is,
were the men there voluntarily?
515
00:24:04,485 --> 00:24:07,238
I answered your question.
I really need to go back inside.
516
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,906
Is there a reason
why you're refusing...
517
00:24:08,948 --> 00:24:10,658
I'm not refusing.
518
00:24:10,700 --> 00:24:12,660
I don't remember.
519
00:24:12,702 --> 00:24:16,080
You don't remember anything
about your work?
520
00:24:16,122 --> 00:24:18,249
I already told you.
521
00:24:21,294 --> 00:24:25,381
What about the name Walter Cruz?
522
00:24:25,423 --> 00:24:29,218
Do you remember him?
523
00:24:29,260 --> 00:24:31,095
No.
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