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[Narrator] In 1975, Swansea
City were down and almost out.
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At the end of that season,
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they were forced into the humiliation
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of applying for reelection
to the Fourth Division,
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and you can't get any lower than that.
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The Vetch Field was like
the proverbial graveyard.
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The pitch was bumpy and
bare, the support likewise.
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Home gates on Saturdays
averaged under 2,000.
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For the small amount of
supporters and directors,
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the future, such as it was, looked bleak.
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But help was on the way.
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I don't think I've ever
been daunted in my life.
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(upbeat rock music)
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(crowd cheering)
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If you grew up at
Liverpool under Shankly,
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you weren't allowed to be
daunted about anything.
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When I went to Liverpool, maybe, yeah,
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I felt a little bit, a
little bit like that.
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(soft music) (crowd chattering)
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We got off the train, Sue and myself,
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on the platform there at Liverpool,
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and Shanks was there
with his trilby hat on
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at the end of the platform.
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And he came on and he
shook my hand, and he said,
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"Welcome to Liverpool, son.
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You've left Sunday school
and you've come to church."
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(John chuckles)
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Rock music.
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What Shanks drummed into all us was that.
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"No, no, no, you are the
best, boys, you know, you."
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We believed him.
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[Interviewer] What is
the Liverpool recipe book?
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Oh simplicity, and the will to win,
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and helping each other.
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It's a form of socialism
without the politics, of course.
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Politics don't work, never will work,
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time we got rid of them.
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A form of socialism where
you help me and I help you,
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and at the end of the day,
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they helped each other and they won.
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Then they got the idea they're invincible.
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And, of course, they were invincible.
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They are invincible.
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When I left Liverpool,
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or I say when I left, I knew my time.
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I'd had this thigh injury, this problem,
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which had held me back a bit.
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After a couple of months, this would get,
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then it affected my
training and one thing.
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And then it was quite clear
that there was a problem there.
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And then I just was invited
by the Gola sports firm
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to go down to a sports
trade fair in Swansea
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at the old Dragon Hotel.
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And I just got talking.
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I met Malcolm Struel, got
talking one or two things,
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and the Swansea thing came up.
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Through something happening
about Swansea and playing.
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Would I fancying about managing,
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and I just said, "No",
first of all, "no, no."
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Then I thought huh, well,
this is interesting.
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(upbeat rock music)
(birds squawking)
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The main thing is that I've
come back to South Wales really,
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and that I'm going to put into practise
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the things that I've learnt
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over the last eight years on Merseyside,
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and I'll be putting them into
practise at Swansea City.
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And, of course, Swansea,
when you grew up at Cardiff,
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in football, Swansea is the
enemy number one. You know,
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So when I decided to go
to Swansea from Liverpool,
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it was like whoop.
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A lot of people, a lot of raised eyebrows.
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[Narrator] An inspired move
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by Swansea City Chairman, Malcolm Struel,
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led to the arrival in March
'78 of what, in retrospect,
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can truly be called a 'Football Messiah'.
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With the club just in
touch with promotion,
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Struel persuaded Welsh
international striker John Toshack
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to leave Liverpool.
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The city in general just
absolutely sort of exploded.
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I mean, we were all
excited to be, you know,
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There was a little bit of a trepidation
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because we didn't know quite
how he was going to be.
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I mean, Tosh at the time
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was only, what, 27, 28 years of age?
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He was still a young man.
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I'm hoping to give Swansea City,
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and the people of this area,
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the success that I feel it deserve.
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I think that's the one
thing that people forget
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is that Tosh came as a player-manager.
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We actually signed a
First Division player.
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But with his ability in
training as much as anything,
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we knew that the standards
had to be lifted by everybody.
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He brought a big time feel to the club
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and really a belief
that if you follow Tosh,
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then you're going to be successful.
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(upbeat rock music continues)
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I remember all us,
everybody - all the players,
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we were all in the
changing room at the Vetch.
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Everybody's talking and sort of,
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"Ooh, ooh, what's going happen?"
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And then, of course, he
come in with the chairman.
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The chairman introduced him.
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And there was like a
minute silence, you know,
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Everybody went deathly quiet.
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I can remember the first
day, sat in the dressing room
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with our kit on.
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And the kit that we had was our own kit.
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Reds, greens and blues, you name it.
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Shorts, all different
colours, socks and everything.
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Tosh came in smart, tie, suit.
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Some people can just fill
a room with a personality
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and Tosh was able to do that.
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And he's a big man, anyway, you know.
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He's impressive looking
when he walks into a room,
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but he's got an aura about him.
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I think all the top people, it's an aura,
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it's a presence, and Tosh
had that in abundance.
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(crowd cheering)
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He actually told us at
the end of the speech then,
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and "by the way," he
said, "I'll have you lot
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in the First Division within three years."
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And I can remember looking
across the dressing room
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like this to Wyndham, and we were going.
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It was genuinely one of
those things that, you know,
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as Tosh was talking to you, you know,
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you actually would believe
in him, type of thing.
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And then, of course, he'd sort of
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turn his back a little bit.
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And me and Curt looked at each other
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as if to say, we're in
the Fourth Division now.
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You know, First Division.
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Does he know he's at Swansea City,
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and not Manchester City? (Laughs)
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And true to his word, we
started believing in Tosh.
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You know, the more sort of time went on,
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you realise that, yeah,
I mean, he was ambitious,
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but he backed it up.
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Fourth, Third, Second, First.
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Easy to say it, but a bit
more difficult to do it.
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(soft music)
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Harry made a great contribution
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because he cared about this football club.
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And I had a man at the helm
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who really put his heart and soul into it.
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In fact, I think in his first full season,
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he got us from the re-election situation
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to about 10th in the league.
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And that was the start of the way back.
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When the time came, when I
felt that Harry had taken us
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as far as we could go, it
was a terrible decision
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to have to make the tell him
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that I felt that he ought to step down,
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step down to a number two position.
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But it was a very, very
difficult decision.
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He took it really well
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because he felt that it was
going to be good for the club.
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And, of course, he was
secure in the knowledge
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that Tosh really wanted him to be there
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because he relied upon his
knowledge and his experience.
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So the combination of
the two was fantastic.
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Harry loved Tosh from
the moment they met.
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He was very happy to step down
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and Tosh couldn't believe
the welcome that he had,
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first of all from Malcolm,
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but certainly from Harry,
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because it was an open arms welcome.
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I was so grateful for Harry.
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I mean, he helped me when
I went there first of all.
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He told me, he said.
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You know Harry had that
thing, it was like.
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"Ah you can't do that," he said.
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"Harry, what about him?"
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"When they play down here, down the Vetch,
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you can send them out and
go and have a cup of tea
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up in the director's box there.
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But once they get on that M4,
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you're going to have your
work cut out away from home.
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"They get homesick."
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(laughs)
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I loved Harry because he sort
of, he got myself involved.
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He got Curt, Robbie, Charlo.
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He knew us personally,
and Tosh could see that.
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He could see us and Harry together.
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He knew that it was good.
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And Tosh just gelled into it,
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he was clever then
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he just gelled into it.
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But Harry was a great
coach, a great manager.
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Swansea through and through.
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(soft music continues)
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(crowd cheers)
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[Interviewer] Did you
find it very difficult
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to become a manager?
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Well, it's difficult to think
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being a player-manager.
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It's difficult because I'm
trying to get over here
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a way of playing, a way of
training and a way of living
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that I got used to myself at Liverpool.
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I looked at the way that
the side had been training,
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and a lot of respect for
Harry, God bless him,
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but he really was up against it there.
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I mean, it was a case of some days
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they would train over on the beach
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just across the road there.
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Other days they would go down Ashley Road
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until the local park
keeper, threw them off.
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So it was, it was pretty difficult.
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He changed everything, you know.
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Even we used to take our own kit home.
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Finish training, take your own kit home,
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wash it to wear the following day.
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All that changed.
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The kit was washed for us.
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He had washing machines plumbed in,
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got in touch with Adidas
so we had training kit.
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And yes, it made you feel
like a billion dollars.
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It was a revelation really.
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He came in and changed training.
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And the preparation really
was completely different
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whereby we used to sort of
just turn up at the club
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on a Saturday for games.
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We actually went away on a Friday night.
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So the prep was excellent.
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I tried to arrange for
us to have a bite to eat.
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We had Dolly who lived
right down the corner
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by the players' entrance.
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He persuaded Dolly to go into the kitchen
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to make us a little bit of.
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It wasn't just so much
the boys would eat it.
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It's just for the fact
that after training,
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instead of everybody shooting off
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in their different directions
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that we all stayed together
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just to mingle for an hour or so.
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Dolly would come in
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with a little bowl of soap each for us,
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and then we'd just have one round of toast
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and a sausage on it, you know.
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You look back at it now
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and, yeah, it's really, really funny.
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Dolly was a lady,
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and I think she was originally
from Devon or somewhere.
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And you've got to remember
a lot of the Welsh players
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that were there, they'd been there
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since they were young lads.
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And Dolly looked after the players.
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I mean, she guarded them.
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She'd do anything for them.
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She'd say, "No, I'm not doing it."
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Next minute, she'd do it for them.
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And she was a character.
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But I'll tell you what,
no one argued with her.
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Even Toshack wouldn't argue with Dolly.
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Nobody argued with Dolly.
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I remember the night of
my debut, against Watford.
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I think, Swansea had been
averaging about 5, 5,500.
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19,000, 18,000, I think, turned up.
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It was a fantastic day.
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(crowd cheering)
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It was a 3-3 draw.
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And it was a good way to start.
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And obviously for Swansea
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to get 17, 18,000 almost
into the Vetch in those days
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was a big, big thing.
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[Interviewer] No regrets about the job?
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Oh, no, certainly not! Never.
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Terrific.
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I enjoyed it. Fabulous.
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I haven't enjoyed a match so much
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since Wales and Scotland.
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We played Watford on the first game
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and then the following week then
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we had Crewe Alexandra away.
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And Tosh give a speech and that.
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I just turned to him and said,
"Tosh, be careful today."
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I said, "I know Crewe."
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And said, "There's some nasty
boys out there, you know."
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And he said, "Wyndham, I've
played against A.C. Milan,
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Inter Milan, Juventus, Leeds United.
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Are you serious?"
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And he made me feel about that size.
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All the boys giggled and laughed.
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And I said, "Oh why did
I say that?", you know.
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Anyway, we go to play.
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First corner we have.
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Somebody takes the cross.
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Somebody goes across Tosh,
cracks his nose by there,
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covered in blood.
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At halftime then,
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he looked as if he was
playing for Liverpool,
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he was all red.
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We were all white and he was all red.
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And he give us a team talk there.
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And he turned to me and said,
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"Don't you say anything?"
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(laughs)
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And I had to say it.
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I said, "You haven't played"
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"against Crewe Alexandra,
have you?" (laughs)
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(crowd cheers)
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To get promotion from
the Fourth Division
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initially to the Third, he
had to bank on one thing.
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And that was the players that he had.
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Charlo, Robbie, Curt and himself
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to score as many goals
as you can, as you say.
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They score three, we score four.
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It happened a few times.
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He wanted us on the
front foot all the time.
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Attack, Attack, Attack.
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That's all he ever talked about.
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And the likes of Robbie James and Curt,
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obviously, he spotted
that they were excellent.
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Robbie was power, pure power.
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Who passed people,
knock people off things.
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Just they don't even exist
when Robbie was around.
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Curt would turn you up in knots.
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You'd think you had the ball
when you were in training
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and then he'd be gone.
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Charlo, you'd lose him and
he'd be at the back of the net.
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We had a nucleus of very
local players as well,
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and they knew how special
it was to play for the club
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and what it meant to everybody.
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So it wasn't just you
weren't just playing football
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for yourselves or for the team,
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you're playing for the city as well.
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(upbeat rock music continues)
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It's been a good club to me.
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I've played for them for a long time,
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and I've done all sorts of jobs, chores,
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whatever you wish to call them.
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And as long as I can get up in the morning
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and come down to the
Vetch Field, I'm happy.
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Pretty advanced, are we?
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[Interviewer] Again.
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Eric, got to step to the side.
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Go on.
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It's one of the saddest days.
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I had literally nightmares
about it for weeks afterwards.
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I just, I remember walking
into the medical room one day
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just to ask, or just to see
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how we were fixed the
players for training.
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Who could train, who couldn't,
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and Harry just dropped
to the floor, you know?
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The doc was there fortunately enough.
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The doc come running through
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and sorted a few things out.
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Took him straight off to the hospital
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and gone just like that, you know?
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So that was one of the
most difficult times,
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obviously,
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that I've had.
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Tosh said, "Wyndham".
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He said, "Come here."
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He pulled me to one side like that
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and he said, "I've got bad news
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that Harry has died this morning."
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I said, "Died?
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Harry Griffiths?
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Yesterday he was fighting fit and that."
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And I remember I said,
"Tosh, I got to go."
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I just went out, down to the beach.
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And just had to walk, that's all.
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I came back then to the training.
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I was in quite early, so
I just went down just to.
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I couldn't believe it.
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Imagine the team talk of players,
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having to tell the players
that Harry had passed away
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in the morning of the game.
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All this business about "let's go out"
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"and do it for Harry" and all this.
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That sounds great, you know,
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but when you're actually in that position,
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it was very, very
difficult, very difficult.
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You know, when we played that evening,
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there was always that
"where's Harry" type of thing.
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For all the players,
he had been a constant.
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From when we all first started
the club different times,
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and Harry was always the constant there.
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I think there's a lovely
line from Robbie James actually
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at the end of the match, they
looked over to the dugout
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and Robbie said, "Harry wasn't there."
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"But he was," he said,
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"Because he was always looking after us,
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always looking down on us,
always encouraging us."
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It might sound, I don't
know, ironic a little bit,
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but maybe it spurred us
on, Harry, a little bit,
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what happened, you know.
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To say, "Come on, Harry
wouldn't have liked that."
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Or "Harry would have
been proud of you there."
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It spurred us on a little bit,
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and getting promotion obviously
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was Harry's team really, you know.
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I mean, I'd just gone in on the end of it.
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And, if you like, gave my
little bit of whatever you want,
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but I regard that promotion
as Harry's really.
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(gentle synthesiser music)
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[Interviewer] What are his
particular qualities then,
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do you think though?
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Oh, that knowledge of the game,
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and listening to people and
picking people's brains.
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And the determination he's
got, a quiet determination.
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I had a noisy determination.
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John's is a little quieter,
but just as effective.
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(upbeat rock music)
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Well, I felt, right, we've got up
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to the Third Division now.
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I mean, first thing you have to do
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is sit down with the chairman
and see what can we do here?
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When I first heard that Ian Callaghan
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and Tommy Smith were coming,
I couldn't quite believe it,
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but it was a case of
Tosh and his contacts.
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Tommy Smith was struggling
with a lot of injuries.
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Whereas there was
nothing wrong with Cally.
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He's just, Cally was like Gandalf.
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He can play now I think.
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He was going on and on and on,
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but he just wasn't getting in the team
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and slowed down a bit.
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Smith was quite volatile on
the field and off it, I think,
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and it's fair to say, and
Callaghan, quiet, modest,
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but a fine player.
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One of the finest passers
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of the ball I've ever seen, I think.
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Watching Tommy and Ian Callaghan
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on "Match of the Day" as a kid,
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and then all of a sudden
they're sat next to you
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in the changing room.
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It was a surreal moment really.
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With Cally and Smith, it reinforced
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what Tosh was telling us.
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When you actually see
the guys of that level,
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who'd won the European Cup
and played at that level,
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doing what Tosh was asking,
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showing you what Tosh was asking,
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talking to you about it,
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it just resonated with you
and it just stayed with you.
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Fantastic habits, really were
fantastic habit builders,
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all of them.
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I suppose Swansea was
seen as the new Vegas.
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People come and get you and take you down
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to the starry lights of South Wales.
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And the fact that they were
doing it made it interesting.
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The unfortunate thing
is it's not like now.
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We never saw any footage of it.
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So there was just newspaper
reports of what was going on.
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We noticed that it give,
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particularly Charlo, Curt,
Robbie, these younger ones,
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a bit of a lift to be with
Tommy Smith and Cally.
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We became really the talk of football,
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at that level,
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and even a little bit higher as well.
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All of a sudden, the "Match of
the Day" cameras were there.
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People were taking a lot of notice.
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Publicity wise, we were involved a lot.
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The flood of national papers
that came looking for stories
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was quite incredible.
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They all had their own men down
at Swansea chasing stories.
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And this was because of Tosh.
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I think that the opposition
were almost in awe,
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when we were going out onto the pitch.
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And he was like,
especially over the tannoy,
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then they announced the teams
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and you could see them
like nudging each other
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and pointing at "There's
Tommy Smith, there's Cally."
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It wasn't that much different
from playing at Liverpool,
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because Tosh obviously
played under Bob Paisley,
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an absolutely fantastic manager.
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Some of the tactics and the training
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and what we'd done at Liverpool,
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but then he had his own ideas.
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And as I say, it turned out to be, for me,
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a fantastic time at Swansea.
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(crowd chanting)
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I think the things with all those games
483
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was just the amount of
support that we had.
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So even though it was Third Division,
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there were still big games.
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They put maybe put a little
bit of extra pressure on.
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But, I mean, at that particular time,
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I didn't know what
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I didn't know what pressure was.
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We were always told at
Liverpool with Shanks and Bob,
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"Pressure, pressure?"
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That's when you've no work to go to, son,
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and you have to stand in a queue
494
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and wait to be paid money weekly.
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"Pressure, the best days of your life."
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And they certainly were.
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(crowd chattering)
(lively music)
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[Interviewer] What sort of season
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has it been for you, John?
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I mean, you've transformed
Swansea City, haven't you?
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The players you've brought.
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You've got the crowds back here.
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You must be delighted,
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whatever the outcome of the
actual season's results.
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Well, the main thing is
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that we're filling the ground every week
507
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and we're getting young players interested
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in coming to the club.
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00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,296
And for me, that's the
most significant thing
510
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:24,816
that's happened over the last 12 months.
511
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,936
People coming in here, filling the ground
512
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,896
and youngsters wanting to
be part of Swansea City
513
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,616
because it's a club that
we're trying to build here,
514
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:32,640
not just a team.
515
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:35,296
[Interviewer] When you look at the top
516
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:36,217
of the Third Division,
517
00:25:36,241 --> 00:25:38,856
any one of the five sides could go up.
518
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,056
How do you see it finishing?
519
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,336
What's going to be the decisive factor?
520
00:25:42,360 --> 00:25:43,896
Well, we've got two games left,
521
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,976
and if we win them both
we'll finish as champions.
522
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,136
That I do know.
523
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,376
But further than that, your
guess is as good as mine.
524
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:52,616
We go into the Chesterfield game
525
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,496
knowing that more or
less, if we win the game,
526
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,216
then we're going to get
promoted to the Second Division.
527
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,056
I think it was just written in the stars.
528
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,296
(lively music continues)
529
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:04,976
25,000 crowd.
530
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,376
The biggest crowd we'd had for,
I don't know how many years.
531
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,720
2,000 when I first come here,
25,000 now cheering us on.
532
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:17,417
We knew it was going to be hard,
533
00:26:17,441 --> 00:26:19,120
but Chesterfield, for some reason,
534
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,016
was going to upset the party.
535
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:27,040
(lively music continues)
(crowd cheering)
536
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,136
We didn't have 46 games to win promotion,
537
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,816
we had 8 minutes.
538
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,976
The crowd were getting
a little bit frustrated,
539
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,136
but all of a sudden,
there was a bit of a roar.
540
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,880
And I looked round, Tosh was
getting his tracksuit off.
541
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,496
There was only one sub in those days.
542
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,096
And I worked out
543
00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:55,680
that possibly the best
place for me was substitute.
544
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:58,417
Tosh came on.
545
00:26:58,441 --> 00:27:01,296
A few minutes after, we got a free kick
546
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,800
on the edge of the box,
which is about here.
547
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,920
He came up from the center half-position.
548
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,000
"Wait till I get on the edge of the box."
549
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,960
When it left my left foot,
I thought, "that's it."
550
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,416
As the ball was coming over,
551
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,816
I could hear John Charles'
words ringing in my ears,
552
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,000
"Put them back where they come from, son."
553
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,816
The goalkeeper's following the
flight of the ball that way.
554
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,016
And it makes it all the
more difficult for him.
555
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,296
If you head it down
there, it's easy for him,
556
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,456
but if you head it back
where they come from, son,
557
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,976
"it's all the more difficult
for him to change direction."
558
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,176
And I mean
559
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,896
I seem to be up there for about 20 minutes
560
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,896
when I watch it on the television.
561
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,560
And the ball just seemed to go.
562
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,760
(crowd chattering)
563
00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:00,440
(crowd cheering) (upbeat music)
564
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,016
John Toshack, you came on
again and you did it again.
565
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:04,857
That's right, yes.
566
00:28:04,881 --> 00:28:06,256
A few people sweating,
567
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:07,736
but I don't know what all
the fuss was about really.
568
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:08,856
[Interviewer] Did you really though
569
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,376
expect to go up in your first season?
570
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,416
Well, let me put it you this way.
571
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,336
We really intended to
have a bloody good go.
572
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:17,096
That was a demolition of this ground
573
00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:19,056
because the roof's came off every stand,
574
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,696
and people from all over
Swansea, all over Wales,
575
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,856
were congratulating us
at the end for, well,
576
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,200
2/3 of Tosh's dream really.
577
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,976
Tonight belongs to everybody
connected with Swansea City.
578
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,776
I'm pleased for them because
without being big-headed,
579
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,096
this is something that
people like Tommy and myself
580
00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:37,696
have come to expect every year.
581
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,816
But there's a lot of people
who worked very hard for this.
582
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:40,856
Three or four year ago,
583
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,096
the club was down on its
knees seeking re-election.
584
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,656
And I'm pleased that the people
who stuck it out with 'em
585
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,216
and they've got their rewards tonight.
586
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,000
(crowd cheering)
587
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,456
I mean, everybody just
relished the occasion.
588
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,377
It was such.
589
00:28:58,401 --> 00:29:00,856
The fact that we'd been in the doldrums
590
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,336
for quite a number of years,
591
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:03,776
then all of a sudden Tosh has come in
592
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,016
and we're back in the old Second Division.
593
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,936
As I say, for a lot of people,
594
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,136
they would've been happy with that.
595
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,536
And I think people
assumed that, right okay,
596
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,256
we weren't big enough, good enough
597
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,576
to get into the old
First Division, but see,
598
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:18,760
Tosh had other ideas.
599
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,456
The main story after that was,
600
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:30,256
was Alan Curtis finally going to go
601
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,056
at the end of his year's contract,
602
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,880
which he'd signed the previous year.
603
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,656
And on the Monday morning,
604
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,216
the big man himself walks into the office,
605
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,336
taps me on the shoulder.
And he said, "Alan's gone."
606
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:44,616
(soft music)
607
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:45,736
I said, "Right."
608
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:50,760
He's gone to Leeds, £350,000 club record,
609
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,240
panic in the office because
we had no hint of it there.
610
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,776
But suddenly the back page story
611
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,240
became the front page story.
612
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,376
Leeds at the time, you
know, they were, I guess,
613
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,120
they were probably the top
two or three in the league.
614
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,656
It's like signing for one of
the top four at the moment.
615
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,616
And it was one of those, even
the players were saying to me,
616
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:18,936
some of the staff saying to me,
617
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,840
"It's an opportunity that
you can't turn down."
618
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,336
Tosh then had to go
into his first season
619
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,800
in the Second Division
without the talisman really.
620
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,680
To lose Curt was a
621
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:35,936
a bit of a blow,
622
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,896
to say the least.
623
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,336
But then again, I mean
that's football, you know
624
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,136
particularly when I look at it now.
625
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,856
If we're working with younger players
626
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,096
and the top clubs come and take
them, it's a job well done.
627
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,296
Unfortunately, it's something
628
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,656
that's never, never, never
changed over the years.
629
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,160
(soft music)
630
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,976
[Narrator] Seven years ago, Swansea City
631
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,856
were a tatty Fourth Division
club facing bankruptcy.
632
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,096
The tatty image of the ground remains.
633
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,936
But today the club
unveiled ambitious plans,
634
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,416
a facelift for the Vetch
635
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,256
to match the amazing progress
made by manager, John Toshack.
636
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,896
I've always believed
that it's not just enough
637
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:25,936
to build a team.
638
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,376
You've got to build a club,
639
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,296
and building a club
means building a stadium,
640
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,176
a stadium that everybody:
Management, players, directors,
641
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,376
can be proud of.
642
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:36,337
And that's what we're trying to do.
643
00:31:36,361 --> 00:31:39,616
And we think that by producing
a stadium of this kind,
644
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,856
it'll help to give that
sense of pride to everybody,
645
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,400
not least our supporters.
646
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,560
(upbeat music)
647
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,136
In fairness to the
board and the chairman,
648
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,296
ever since I've been at the club,
649
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,696
everything that I've wanted I've got
650
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,976
and I don't think a manager
can ask for any more than that
651
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,840
from his chairman or his director.
652
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,736
I remember going over the
bridge at Port Talbot there
653
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,336
and looking across and thinking "not sure.
654
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:23,680
I'm not sure about this."
655
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,456
The Jersey Marine Road driving down,
656
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,936
it was like a bombed area, it was.
657
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,576
My wife actually did say to me,
658
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,720
"Wow, it's not really
nice down here, is it?"
659
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:47,256
I come to Swansea Train Station,
660
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,440
and when I come from the train, raining,
661
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:53,520
cold,
662
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,200
but it's summer?
663
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,136
As soon as you got into the town
664
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,656
and you got to the Vetch,
you got to the Vetch
665
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,440
and Tosh he said, "Right."
666
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,736
His wife, as he was married to then, Sue,
667
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,336
who was a Cardiff girl.
668
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,256
She took my wife in the car
669
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,136
and drove her straight down to the Mumbles
670
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,776
and Caswell Bay and Langland Bay,
671
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,360
showing her all these places.
672
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,176
We met him at the Langland Bay Hotel
673
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,800
and we had a chat there,
stayed there overnight.
674
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,576
Me and my wife just decided,
we woke up in the morning,
675
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,336
a beautiful sunny day, Saturday morning,
676
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,976
looking over Langland Bay,
yeah, let's go for this.
677
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,296
My wife come back, knocked the door,
678
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:41,416
she said, "Have you signed yet?
679
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:42,656
Have you signed yet?"
680
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:43,537
I said, "well, we haven't discussed."
681
00:33:43,561 --> 00:33:45,456
"Well, hurry up and sign!
682
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:46,696
It's fantastic, David.
683
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,600
It's brilliant, we love it down here."
684
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,496
I came to changing room.
685
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,320
All players very kind,
686
00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:00,496
like I'm there maybe two or three years.
687
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,136
Everybody friendly.
688
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,600
(upbeat music continues)
689
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,096
This is the amazing thing
about Swansea, I think.
690
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,616
I've lived in London for over 20 years.
691
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,176
I have never set eyes on
a professional footballer.
692
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,016
I mean, partly the times
have changed and obviously,
693
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,416
they're not eating at the
same restaurants as me,
694
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,976
but walking around Swansea
you would regularly see,
695
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,176
especially Mumbles, you'd see players
696
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,800
just having a walk around.
697
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,416
I played for Fair wood Rangers for a while.
698
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,936
Toshack's youngest son,
Craig, was playing.
699
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,416
So Tosh would be on the
sides as we played football,
700
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,256
which, you know, obviously
was like amazing.
701
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,096
I think that was the thing.
702
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,097
They were huge celebrities.
703
00:35:16,121 --> 00:35:18,496
And yet they were just about within reach
704
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,856
in a way that footballers just
aren't these days, you know?
705
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,136
And that if you did sort of see one,
706
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,520
they'd happily talk to you.
707
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,936
There was a sort of humility
about the team as well.
708
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,176
(gentle guitar music)
709
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,136
Living in Swansea in those
times, especially as a kid,
710
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,376
I was 12, 13 at that time,
711
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,136
the players were just available
and that availability,
712
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,136
I think, certainly to younger kids,
713
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,336
but it just felt for everybody, you know.
714
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,256
My dad would say, "Oh, I saw Robbie James
715
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:44,496
in Swansea on the weekend."
716
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,856
And everyone just seemed to
know everybody in that time.
717
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,056
Certainly the bond between the fans,
718
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,536
literally on the North Bank,
719
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,296
and the players were so strong.
720
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,496
And I think Tosh sort of
enhanced that as well.
721
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,496
I think he wanted it to be that way.
722
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,576
And they talk about the 12th
man being the North Bank
723
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:01,896
and the Vetch itself.
724
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,576
And that was certainly
fostered by the players
725
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:04,760
in and around the city.
726
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:11,376
Robbie James, he looked like one of us.
727
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,496
He had a real odd style of running.
728
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,216
He used to run with his thumbs
up in front of him like that.
729
00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:17,056
He had this sort of short,
730
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,776
sort of staccato stride to him really.
731
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,776
But then he would have
this incredible power,
732
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,376
never seemed to lose a tackle.
733
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,656
He could shoot, he could
finish, great in the air.
734
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:29,736
He had absolutely everything,
735
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,736
but he still encapsulated
that kind of, that normality.
736
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,816
He had his moustache,
he had his broken nose,
737
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,016
and he just seemed like one of us.
738
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,056
It's hard thing to explain really.
739
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,496
And that meant that we really,
really were on his side
740
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:44,896
with everything that he did.
741
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,816
And what he did was just
brilliant really for those years.
742
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,080
He was incredible.
743
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,136
The boys in those days used
to come, stay up in a hotel,
744
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,016
which is now a nursing home,
745
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,056
which is right opposite to where I am.
746
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,216
And then in the morning
they would walk down
747
00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:11,016
and around the beach and
back, back to the hotel.
748
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:15,456
And on one occasion, fair
play, my boys were playing
749
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,256
and I think it was one of their
birthdays or what have you,
750
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,416
but they were playing in the front lawn
751
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,496
with some kiddies nets, you know.
752
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,976
The next thing I know
everybody was in the goal,
753
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,520
in the nets.
754
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,296
Money can't buy that kind of thing.
755
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:34,976
And that was a sort of team.
756
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:35,857
You felt it.
757
00:37:35,881 --> 00:37:37,816
They all wanted to.
758
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,256
They gave so much, they
gave so much to the locality
759
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,280
and to the club.
760
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,816
People were very, very
excited by the way that the club
761
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,760
was going at the moment at that time.
762
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,320
But it was nice to have little pockets
763
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,456
where you could just, not sneak away,
764
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,096
because you didn't need
to sneak around anyway,
765
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,016
but just go and enjoy a quiet
few minutes on your own.
766
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,536
And so it was nice.
767
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,176
It was nice at the time.
768
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,880
(lively music)
769
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,616
One of the great
occasions in the Bay View
770
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,400
was when Neil Robinson's wife had a baby
771
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,576
and it was decided that we
have to wet the baby's head.
772
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,936
It was customary to do that.
773
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,360
Oh, what a night that was.
774
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:40,576
Of course it was back in the day
775
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,976
where last orders was called at 10:30.
776
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,416
It was early hours of the morning.
777
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,896
The wee small hours, as they say.
778
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,656
There was a bang on the door.
779
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,896
The door was burst open.
780
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,016
And about six or seven
policemen rushed in.
781
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,576
"Nobody move, everyone stay there.
782
00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:59,376
It's the police.
783
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:00,217
You're drinking after hours.
784
00:39:00,241 --> 00:39:01,736
You're drinking after time."
785
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,136
David Giles was on the mic.
786
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:04,216
He said, "Ladies and gentlemen,
787
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:07,080
I'd like to introduce the police."
788
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,936
I mean, it was a
friendly raid, you know.
789
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,736
I think all the police were Swans.
790
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,016
They were all Swans fans.
791
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,456
Sergeant was there,
"Right, Get everyone's name."
792
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,296
So you could see these young
constables looking over you.
793
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:24,097
"Name?"
794
00:39:24,121 --> 00:39:25,896
Well, they knew it was Leighton James,
795
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,136
Leighton James,
796
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,976
Robbie James, David Giles.
797
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,520
Sarge, this is all
the Swans team, this is.
798
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,456
He said, "Well, get their
autographs then." (laughs)
799
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,736
And one of the police
officers at the time
800
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,840
was in Swansea School Boys with me.
801
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,496
And he actually took my name and address.
802
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:47,656
He said, "I'm awful sorry."
803
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:48,896
But yeah, okay.
804
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:49,737
He said, "Yeah."
805
00:39:49,761 --> 00:39:51,016
He said, "What's your name?"
806
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,496
I said, "Look, you know my name."
807
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,256
I said, "You were in school with me."
808
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,456
I got the blame, funny enough.
809
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:57,920
I got the blame for that.
810
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,096
I remember getting up
the following morning,
811
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,920
and thinking (sighs), I drove
straight into the ground.
812
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,576
Walked in, Carol was in
the secretary's office.
813
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,696
I said, "Is he in?"
814
00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:14,760
She went, "Yeah."
815
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,256
I said, "Does he know?"
816
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:19,576
"Yeah."
817
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:20,600
I went, "Right."
818
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:28,016
Boss, I got to tell you.
819
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,520
After the game last night,
820
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,096
one or two of us got booked for drinking,
821
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,720
"having a drink after
time in the Bay View."
822
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,680
And he went, "How many of you?"
823
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,320
And I just looked at him, I went, "28."
824
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:47,880
He went, "What?"
825
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,176
I said, "Yeah."
826
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:51,017
I said, "We go everywhere as a team.
827
00:40:51,041 --> 00:40:52,416
You should know that."
828
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,216
He went, "Right, who wasn't there?"
829
00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:57,376
What upset me that day
830
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,440
was that I think two
of them weren't there.
831
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:03,857
Dai Davis weren't there
832
00:41:03,881 --> 00:41:06,096
because his family was
down from North Wales.
833
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,016
And one other, I can't
remember who it was now.
834
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,336
But everybody else was there.
835
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:15,256
The following day, I find
the two who weren't there
836
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:20,280
because I felt that a
night out with the players
837
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,096
and everybody they should
have all been there,
838
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,256
but a couple of them weren't so, yeah,
839
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:28,616
I wasn't happy with that.
840
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,400
(crowd cheering)
841
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,816
It was all for one, and
one for all with Tosh.
842
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,936
I give him all credit to him for that.
843
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,616
He'd been taught well by
the likes of Mr. Shankly
844
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,376
and Mr. Paisley at Liverpool.
845
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,456
And you got to remember, John
was quite an intelligent man.
846
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,216
He wouldn't be listening to Shanks
847
00:41:51,240 --> 00:41:54,656
and listening to Mr. Paisley
and sort of dismissing it.
848
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,056
He would be taking in
all the good knowledge
849
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,336
that he'd got off them.
850
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,840
(soft music)
851
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,416
A lot of us have gone into management,
852
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:05,760
ex-Liverpool players.
853
00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:08,456
And I say this with all due respect,
854
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:13,160
they've all had Shanks to
fall back on if you like.
855
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,016
But although I say it myself,
856
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,296
I think I just felt
857
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:19,496
that he had
858
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:24,520
a little bit of a special
feel for me, you know.
859
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,496
You just didn't feel like
letting Shankly down.
860
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,216
If you were training,
861
00:42:33,240 --> 00:42:35,360
if you were on the
football pitch training,
862
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,216
he had a habit if he was about
40, 50 yards away from you
863
00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:43,056
and he wasn't happy with
you about something,
864
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,776
Saturday's game or what it was,
865
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,576
he had a habit if he had Bob
next to him or something,
866
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,296
he'd go like that.
867
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,137
He'd do that.
868
00:42:50,161 --> 00:42:51,776
He wasn't saying anything to Bob.
869
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,096
He'd point at you like that as if he was.
870
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,040
And you'd, ooh, you'd look the other way.
871
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:03,080
You certainly didn't want
to get on his bad side.
872
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,360
(upbeat music)
873
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,360
He was really keen on
us all being together
874
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,256
at all times now, as much as we can.
875
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,376
Because obviously if you fit together,
876
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,536
if we're all in here now or whatever,
877
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,376
and then when you go on the field to play,
878
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:27,680
you'll be together again.
879
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,176
I think he put a sign
on the wall that said
880
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,096
that "in the event of
us getting promotion,
881
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,776
there will be a group of players and staff
882
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,856
going to to Magaluf, Majorca,
on a week's holiday."
883
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,360
And all the boys just
looked around at each other.
884
00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:46,856
They love the idea of
going to Majorca for 10 days
885
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,976
and all being together,
and having a good sing-song
886
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,600
and a few beers, warm
weather and all sorts.
887
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,776
"We'll never get to Magaluf
playing like that boys."
888
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,280
I'll tell you that now.
889
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:02,536
And their heads would go down.
890
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,936
And during the game
then, say you're playing,
891
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,496
you're the goalie now,
you're the full-back,
892
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:08,696
he'll say, "Don't make any mistakes
893
00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:11,496
or you won't be going to Magaluf."
894
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,200
That's what he said.
895
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:15,456
We had a good win.
896
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:16,576
We played well.
897
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,120
"Hey, Majorca here we come."
898
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,576
Well, I always used to say,
899
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,856
that's the secret of his success.
900
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,056
It was great for team spirit.
901
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:26,656
Bonding, I think, they call it now.
902
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,296
Team spirit.
903
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:33,320
It was great in those days for
these lads to get on the bus,
904
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,976
outside the Vetch and go to
Rhoose Airport, in Cardiff,
905
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:42,256
and wait in a queue and
get on a flight to Majorca.
906
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,256
In a proper prim and proper
way, they really, as I say,
907
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:47,656
really looked forward to it.
908
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,840
(soft country music)
909
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:35,816
I think sometimes you need to go away
910
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,896
to appreciate almost what you've got.
911
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,096
Unfortunately, during my time out injured,
912
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,976
Jimmy Adams on was the manager
of Leeds, who signed me.
913
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,440
Alan Clark then had sort of
taken over the reins from him,
914
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,520
and he just wanted a
little bit of a clear out.
915
00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:55,256
He called me into his office and said,
916
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,296
"Look, we've had an offer
and we've accepted the offer.
917
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,456
But obviously it's your decision."
918
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,176
So when I asked who the club was
919
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:04,776
and they said it was Swansea,
920
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,720
then I sort of punched the air.
921
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,096
I remember saying to
him when he left, I said,
922
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,616
"I'm going to put half of that
in the drawer in my office
923
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,056
and in 18 months - 2 years,
924
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:22,496
I'm going to go up to Leeds with that,
925
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:23,896
and they're going to let you come back."
926
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,536
He was like, "Oh, oh,
oh, yeah, yeah, yeah."
927
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,136
And he laughed, and this,
that, and the other,
928
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:31,536
but as it turned out, two seasons later,
929
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:36,120
we paid half of what we had sold him for,
930
00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:38,720
and he came back.
931
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,896
It was an no-brainer
for me to come back home
932
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,480
and also to play for the Swans.
933
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,296
We feel that we know him
better than anyone else.
934
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,960
And eventually we'll get more
from him than anyone else.
935
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,536
That was like a shot
in the arm to everybody.
936
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,816
That was probably the
point during the season
937
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:10,056
when I realised, hang on,
this could be serious boys.
938
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,736
We got a chance here.
939
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,520
(crowd cheering)
940
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,376
Well, you and your side
have shown that Swansea
941
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,336
are capable of getting to the top,
942
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,016
but now can you stay there
until the end of the season?
943
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,256
Well, I don't think we've
been out the top six all season
944
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,656
and we've had a good run in December,
945
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,296
which has pushed us up Second, as you say.
946
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,576
And that's something I think
947
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,776
that only time will tell really.
948
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,176
I think Tosh was always one of those
949
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,696
that didn't matter how
you start the season.
950
00:47:41,720 --> 00:47:43,896
Obviously, you've got to
have a good middle bit,
951
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,536
but it's how you finish the season.
952
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,480
And I think that was always his mantra.
953
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,536
Preston was the last game
of the season, obviously,
954
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:55,976
but the Saturday before
we'd played Chelsea at home
955
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,936
and we had another one
of them stellar games
956
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,816
where we just battered Chelsea.
957
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:01,856
We absolutely murdered them.
958
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,216
It was 3-0.
959
00:48:03,240 --> 00:48:05,256
It could have been 5 or 6.
960
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:06,416
We were that good.
961
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,000
(lively music)
962
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,176
And on the Monday night
we had Luton at home
963
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:22,456
in a rearranged game,
which was widely remembered
964
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,576
as probably the best game of football
965
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,080
seen at the Vetch that season.
966
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,896
That's as good a game
as I've seen at any level,
967
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,920
anywhere in the world, magnificent match.
968
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,976
We knew now the ball was in our court.
969
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:44,456
So we were obviously quite confident.
970
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,176
Going up to Preston.
971
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:51,376
And there was an air of
calm about the place.
972
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,736
There was a little bit of
fear, I think, if anything.
973
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,656
Ironically, Preston had to win to stay up.
974
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,360
We're having to go up
to Preston in Lancashire
975
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:03,240
to win a match.
976
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,616
A draw would have been no good for us.
977
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:10,096
We have to win the game to
go into the First Division
978
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,136
for the first time in the club's history.
979
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:14,256
It's black and it's white.
980
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:15,936
There's no grey areas, boys.
981
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,776
You win, you're up.
982
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,176
You don't win and they do, you're down.
983
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,096
(John whistles)
984
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,136
Everything was there.
985
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,416
I mean, this was no sort of
986
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,736
end of season finale or whatever.
987
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,496
There is so much riding on this game
988
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,256
that you cannot believe it.
989
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,480
(suspenseful music)
990
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,056
I took the players up on the Friday
991
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,536
to the Holiday Inn in Liverpool,
992
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,536
and Shanks came over.
993
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:44,576
"They look all right, son.
994
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,336
"You're going to be all right," he said.
995
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,176
And all the players were a little bit.
996
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:50,976
As they walked down to
go into the dining room,
997
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,256
he looked at them all.
998
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,456
"Right, all right, son, you'll
be all right, son, tomorrow.
999
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:56,536
You'll be all right.
1000
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,216
They're ready."
1001
00:49:58,240 --> 00:49:59,816
And I thought, "Yeah."
1002
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:01,240
And this is against Preston.
1003
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:07,480
Shankly, Tom Finney, the old
great Preston side, you know.
1004
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,296
I thought, imagine us going to Preston,
1005
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,936
Shanks sitting there in the director's box
1006
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,856
at Deepdale where he was revered,
1007
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,816
and wanting Swansea City,
a little Welsh team,
1008
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:21,880
to win the game.
1009
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:27,920
So he came and he gave
the lads a talking to,
1010
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,336
and they were all, as you can imagine,
1011
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,576
they were all like that with their eyes.
1012
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:36,457
I just felt that we can't.
1013
00:50:36,481 --> 00:50:38,336
We're not going to lose this game.
1014
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:39,776
[Reporter] On the
motorways, heading north
1015
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,096
was an armada of cars
1016
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,176
trailing the club's
black and white colours.
1017
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:44,776
Native northern accents were buried
1018
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,416
by the sound of South Wales
as 10,000 made the journey,
1019
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,056
outnumbering Preston's fans
1020
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,560
and the club's second
biggest crowd of the season.
1021
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:56,936
Supposed to be 10,000 people there.
1022
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,976
I'm sure I spoke to
about 20, 30,000 people
1023
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,400
who reckoned they were at the game.
1024
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:04,776
I've never seen anything like it.
1025
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,576
Just about every car,
every bus, every mini bus
1026
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,120
had a flag, had a banner.
1027
00:51:16,720 --> 00:51:18,480
Shankly come into changing room.
1028
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,960
I watched Liverpool and Shankly,
1029
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:27,496
and he start to talk
1030
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,800
maybe four, five minute, like motivation.
1031
00:51:31,720 --> 00:51:33,456
And after two, three minute,
1032
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,176
I say, "Which language this man talking?"
1033
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:41,856
Because I happy because
people no understand me,
1034
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,136
but I now happy, I no understand him
1035
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:49,160
because it's fast Scottish,
but motivation how he's talks.
1036
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:54,080
We all waiting to go out to win game.
1037
00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:03,856
Bill Shankly was talking
about the supporters,
1038
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,336
and how much it means to them.
1039
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,016
It would change our lives.
1040
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,280
But the fact that so
many had turned up there
1041
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,416
and that we'd never been
there before, and it was real,
1042
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:14,680
and the people back home.
1043
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,976
He just stressed the point
of "don't let them down."
1044
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,296
He came up to you and
he just shook your hand,
1045
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,656
and he said, "Are you ready, son?
1046
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:24,497
Are you ready?"
1047
00:52:24,521 --> 00:52:25,856
And he looked you right in the eye
1048
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,016
like I'm doing to you now.
1049
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,456
And you had to look at him and
he said, "He's ready Tosh."
1050
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,736
And he'd go around every one of us.
1051
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:34,537
"Are you ready, son?"
1052
00:52:34,561 --> 00:52:36,496
And he said, "They're all ready Tosh.
1053
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:37,696
You're going to win.
1054
00:52:37,720 --> 00:52:38,840
Don't worry about it."
1055
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,896
When Shankly was shaking
your hand you think
1056
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,456
I'm playing now don't break my hand.
1057
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,400
(crowd chattering)
1058
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,536
So many things happened in that.
1059
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,240
So many things happened
in that 90 minutes.
1060
00:53:01,720 --> 00:53:04,936
The first 10 or 15 minutes of the game
1061
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,816
were actually far more nervous
than the week before it.
1062
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:13,016
It was almost as if, well,
you show us what you've got
1063
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:14,496
and we'll show you what we've got.
1064
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,736
And neither team was really on top.
1065
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:21,496
And I remember, Robbie
knocked a long ball out to me.
1066
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:22,656
As the ball came,
1067
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,816
all my concentration went into
controlling it first time.
1068
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,776
And it came down and
1069
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,520
virtually stuck to my foot.
1070
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:35,377
[Announcer] Leighton James.
1071
00:53:35,401 --> 00:53:38,120
And as I looked up, I
thought, "right, I've got you."
1072
00:53:39,240 --> 00:53:41,896
(crowd chattering)
1073
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,176
[Announcer] Leighton James.
1074
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:44,200
It's there.
1075
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:47,176
- Yeah.
- [Interviewer] Fantastic.
1076
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,616
Make it sound easy, don't
you? (Interviewer laughs)
1077
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,280
(lively music)
1078
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,376
We were 2 up at half time and, again,
1079
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,896
sort of, we had good control of the game.
1080
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:05,160
Then they pulled one back
1081
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:07,496
and then they put all sorts of pressure.
1082
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,680
They piled the pressure
on the second half.
1083
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,056
I remember their big centre-half, Baxter,
1084
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,776
he had a header from a
corner, and to this day
1085
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,456
I'm sure there was a
little hole in the net.
1086
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,336
I thought it had gone through
and out the other side.
1087
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,056
I thought the ball had
gone through the net.
1088
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:23,136
He hit it and
1089
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,136
the next thing I saw, it was
up in the back of the stand.
1090
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,600
And I thought, "Thank God for that."
1091
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,736
Well, I felt we had the
surge of Swansea City fans
1092
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,136
pushing us forwards and
blocking the goals and that
1093
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:40,680
as if we are going to win.
1094
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,616
And we're hanging on and
hanging on and hanging on,
1095
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:47,656
then we broke away.
1096
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,576
I just tried to run it into the corner.
1097
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,016
Then all of a sudden it opened up.
1098
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:55,056
Robbie was inside, I
played it into Robbie.
1099
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,216
I thought there was no safer pass,
1100
00:54:57,240 --> 00:54:58,296
Robbie was going to keep it.
1101
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,616
Robbie, God bless him, miscontrolled it,
1102
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:01,936
and again, again.
1103
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,496
Robbie miscontrolled it just a touch,
1104
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,040
just knocked it in my path.
1105
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:06,777
I had one touch,
1106
00:55:06,801 --> 00:55:07,976
and I think somebody in
the background shouted.
1107
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,496
"Jeremy just smash it into the stands,
1108
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:10,696
save a little bit of time."
1109
00:55:10,720 --> 00:55:14,040
So I tried to, but unfortunately
hit the top corner, so.
1110
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,536
He hit it and that was it.
1111
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,216
(crowd cheering)
1112
00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:19,296
[Announcer] Charles.
1113
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:20,736
(crowd cheering)
1114
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,840
(soft music)
1115
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:31,776
Those two minutes,
1116
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,736
they almost seemed like
a little bit of a dream
1117
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,416
because they weren't going
to come back from that.
1118
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:37,936
They were deflated.
1119
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:42,976
And, well, just the realisation
that after all this time,
1120
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,096
the club had gone into the First Division.
1121
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,200
The Swans were in the First Division.
1122
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,736
I mean, I've been very,
very fortunate, I tell you.
1123
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,600
Big clubs, Liverpool, Real Madrid,
1124
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,736
but (sighs)
1125
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,520
That day at Preston,
1126
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,016
takes some beating.
1127
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,976
I feel myself shivering now.
1128
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,840
(uplifting music)
1129
00:56:27,240 --> 00:56:28,696
This is the greatest day of my life.
1130
00:56:28,720 --> 00:56:31,616
I thought possibly that
when I left Liverpool,
1131
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,416
I may have left days like this behind,
1132
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,320
but I've never known
anything quite like this.
1133
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,920
The realisation
1134
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:45,976
boys, we've done it.
1135
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,040
First time this club's ever
been in the top flight.
1136
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:51,080
That's down to us.
1137
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,456
He's done a remarkable, managing job.
1138
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,216
I would say possibly he's
manager of the century.
1139
00:57:01,240 --> 00:57:02,656
I mean, what he's achieved in Swansea
1140
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:03,880
in a short space of time
1141
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,736
he hasn't forgotten what he learnt.
1142
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:09,536
He prepared and adjusted
1143
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,696
and it's a great credit
to Swansea and to John.
1144
00:57:11,720 --> 00:57:13,600
(people chattering)
1145
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:15,976
I'm today very happy,
1146
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,776
and Swansea supporters, Swansea players,
1147
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,976
are very good for me,
understand, for my family.
1148
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,240
Manager Toshack, my best friend.
1149
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,600
(crowd cheering)
1150
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,760
(crowd chanting)
1151
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,576
That day, the post sold out
1152
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,096
for the only time in its history.
1153
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:06,616
In fact, the size of the
type it was actually bigger
1154
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,456
than when the post announced
1155
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:09,816
the end of the Second World War.
1156
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,440
(lively music)
1157
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,400
(crowd cheering)
1158
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:27,200
(players and people chattering)
1159
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,160
(crowd applauding)
1160
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:48,120
(horns honking)
1161
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,520
(people chanting)
1162
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,040
Rehearsals have gone
well today for next season
1163
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:27,776
because I can assure you
that this is only the start.
1164
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,920
(people cheering)
1165
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,216
It didn't surprise me at all
what he's done John Toshack.
1166
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:47,536
What he has done at Swansea
1167
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:48,696
is the most remarkable thing
1168
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,016
that's been in the game since the war.
1169
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:52,576
That he took Swansea
from the Fourth Division
1170
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,800
into the First Division in
such a short space of time.
1171
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,416
The most remarkable thing under the sun.
1172
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:00,257
Yeah.
1173
01:00:00,281 --> 01:00:02,160
And I think he's going
to be the top manager.
1174
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,520
(soft music)
1175
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,520
(players chattering)
1176
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:21,416
We're not going into this
division to make the numbers up.
1177
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,856
If you try to come and you push yourselves
1178
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,136
and push yourselves thinking
you're going to come 4th,
1179
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,456
you come 8th and you've done well.
1180
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:33,480
But if you start talking
about just staying up 18th,
1181
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,016
you finish 21st.
1182
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,056
That's what I learnt.
1183
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:41,320
(soft music continues)
1184
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,056
Nervously expectant,
1185
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,736
I think would be the
best way to describe it.
1186
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:23,976
"But we've got to play Liverpool,
1187
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,696
got to be Man United, got
to play Arsenal, Tottenham."
1188
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:29,320
"Yeah, and?"
1189
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:32,337
The town was bouncing.
1190
01:01:32,361 --> 01:01:33,416
Wherever you went, I mean,
1191
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,016
everybody was talking about the Swans.
1192
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:36,776
They're talking about the season,
1193
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:40,416
how they were looking
forward to the coming season,
1194
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:42,376
how the fact that the club
had never in the history,
1195
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:43,856
we'd ever played to the top flight.
1196
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:44,697
You know it was something
1197
01:01:44,721 --> 01:01:47,896
that the city had waited for a long time.
1198
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:49,936
And then, of course,
the fixtures came out.
1199
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,896
First game of the season,
home to Leeds United.
1200
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:56,336
And you're thinking, well, in that era,
1201
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,456
there weren't many
bigger games in football
1202
01:01:58,480 --> 01:01:59,656
than Leeds United.
1203
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,336
(crowd cheering)
1204
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,480
Sometimes in life, and in football,
1205
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:08,976
you get a feeling that something
is really going to happen.
1206
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,656
I mean, call it fantasy land, I know,
1207
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,376
but you just felt that
they were going to win.
1208
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,080
(lively music)
1209
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:26,736
I think people say that, "ah, you know",
1210
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:30,480
"you got nothing to prove" and
stuff like that, but you do.
1211
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,136
I think Trevor Cherry was the defender.
1212
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:36,937
And he picked the ball up
1213
01:02:36,961 --> 01:02:38,736
and I was just running at him basically.
1214
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,296
For the more he backed off,
the more he backed off,
1215
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,480
then you just drop your shoulder,
and it sounds easy enough.
1216
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:56,617
5-1.
1217
01:02:56,641 --> 01:03:00,056
I mean, what? How does this happen?
1218
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,736
You couldn't write a
script better, could you?
1219
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,456
You couldn't if you tried to.
1220
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,816
Swansea 5 Leeds United 1.
1221
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,616
It was a super, super day all round.
1222
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,776
You know, 5-1.
1223
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:14,016
The momentum we got from that
1224
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:15,976
carried us on for the rest of the season.
1225
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:19,080
(lively music continues)
1226
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,000
(soft music)
1227
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,416
Obviously, it hit me pretty hard
1228
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,216
as it did all ex-Liverpool players,
1229
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:21,776
all Liverpool people generally.
1230
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,616
The city of Liverpool was stunned.
1231
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:27,520
(gentle music)
1232
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:40,400
I mean, it happened.
1233
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,056
I don't like to say ironically,
1234
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:49,056
but by a strange piece
of fate, if you like.
1235
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,880
It happened a week before we
were due to go to Liverpool.
1236
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:56,416
Tosh was terrible.
1237
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,736
Shankly was like his father in football
1238
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:04,760
and he had, Shankly, was
always on the phone to Tosh
1239
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,576
because I knew all the calls
that went through obviously.
1240
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:09,776
Well, but he had a private line, Tosh,
1241
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,536
and Shankly was always on the phone,
1242
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:13,976
and Tosh was always on the phone to him,
1243
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:17,016
And he was very quiet, yes, yeah.
1244
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,040
There was a lot of tea served that week.
1245
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:27,176
I was really proud to
be asked by his family
1246
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:29,080
to carry the coffin
1247
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:32,897
at the funeral.
1248
01:05:32,921 --> 01:05:37,920
And as I say, it was a
strange, strange time,
1249
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:40,416
really, really strange time for me.
1250
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,456
As I say, with the Swansea/Liverpool game
1251
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:43,616
at that particular time,
1252
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,080
and all I can remember being.
1253
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:49,560
(gentle music continues)
1254
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,776
Liverpool for me was one of
the most important things
1255
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,416
that happened in my professional career.
1256
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,056
Probably the most important thing.
1257
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:19,376
Real Madrid, or whatever, or
debut for Cardiff, of course,
1258
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:20,816
and teams that I played,
1259
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:24,736
but actually being signed
by Shankly for £110,000
1260
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:26,736
at that particular time, a record,
1261
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,240
moving from Cardiff and
going up to Liverpool.
1262
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:34,016
Three Championships,
European Cups, UEFA Cups,
1263
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:37,160
all down to Shankly really.
1264
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:50,696
I will always be grateful for Shankly
1265
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,016
because I would never be where I am
1266
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:58,040
talking to you like this now
if it hadn't been for him.
1267
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,920
(upbeat music)
1268
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,760
You can't learn to be a coach.
1269
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:27,160
I think coach is born.
1270
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:30,840
And I think he's born to be leader.
1271
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:37,536
There were great, terrific
matches against top sides.
1272
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,616
I mean, the Liverpool game
at An field, obviously,
1273
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:42,096
comes into mind.
1274
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:45,376
The game at Ipswich, against
Bobby Robson's Ipswich,
1275
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:49,840
we were top top dogs to go
there and beat them 3-2.
1276
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:03,096
We knew that in our
day we could beat anybody
1277
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:05,120
and give anybody a game.
1278
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:13,720
Liverpool weren't meant
to be beat by Swansea.
1279
01:08:17,440 --> 01:08:20,296
I mean, all of a sudden,
Swansea was a big name.
1280
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:21,896
I'm not just talking about football.
1281
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:23,816
I'm talking about the city itself.
1282
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:25,760
The whole world was looking at us now.
1283
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:32,096
It is almost unbelievable really
1284
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:34,096
that we were top of the league
1285
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:38,600
and it's almost as if we
can't win this league surely.
1286
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:43,216
We could have easily finished
runners up in the league,
1287
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:46,000
which would've been even more
of an outstanding achievement.
1288
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:52,096
I think it's one of
the quickest times ever
1289
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:55,496
that one team had got from
the Fourth to the First.
1290
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:57,456
And the great thing about it,
1291
01:08:57,480 --> 01:08:58,616
as I mentioned earlier on really,
1292
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:01,336
we had five or six local lads in the side
1293
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:03,376
that went right through
1294
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:07,160
and that was the sort
of the bond of the team.
1295
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:10,976
And to be there and go
up to the First Division
1296
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,800
with those guys was absolutely fantastic.
1297
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:21,496
I would say that everybody,
certainly myself included,
1298
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:24,280
would say that when you
look back at your career,
1299
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:28,496
those four years, five
years or whatever it was,
1300
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:30,656
that's probably the most happiest
1301
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:33,296
and the most successful
time of our careers.
1302
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:37,360
And I don't think any one of
us would swap it for anything.
1303
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:43,096
My Swansea days I regard
1304
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:45,320
as the happiest days
of my football career.
1305
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:47,320
And I really do mean that.
1306
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:54,296
It was a journey full
of emotion, obviously.
1307
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,360
Just an amazing, an amazing ride.
1308
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:00,217
I wouldn't say 'pinch myself'.
1309
01:10:00,241 --> 01:10:01,736
I just went along for the ride.
1310
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,176
I mean, it was a great
ride from when Toshack came
1311
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:05,520
right until the very end.
1312
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:09,640
You just had to go along with it really.
1313
01:10:51,440 --> 01:10:52,736
You know, (phone rings) at the same time
1314
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:56,440
I felt that we should really
have scored more goals.
1315
01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:59,656
Can you just hold on a sec. (Men laugh)
1316
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:00,680
Hello?
1317
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:04,496
You got the wrong number, love, sorry.
1318
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:08,976
Listen, don't phone through
again on this number, will you?
1319
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:10,200
Phone An field.
1320
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:12,137
♪ Swansea ♪
1321
01:11:12,161 --> 01:11:13,536
♪ Oh Swansea ♪
1322
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:15,416
♪ Oh city said I ♪
1323
01:11:15,440 --> 01:11:18,576
The old North Bank I can can see it now,
1324
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,896
I used to walk out and all over there,
1325
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:22,800
down the Vetch, it was a that.
1326
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,496
If you sit in the dugout,
I could turn around
1327
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:29,816
and say to the chairman, "Oi,
will you be quiet, please?"
1328
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:33,216
You know, I mean, they
were that close to us.
1329
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:37,176
They could bang their hand on
the top of our thing there.
1330
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:40,080
You see the stadiums now and
the places where people play.
1331
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:44,496
The old Vetch Field and
old Dolly, God bless her,
1332
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:48,160
the cleaning lady, you know,
who lived just right next door.
1333
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:50,376
She'd come in, in the morning,
1334
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:52,536
she'd be there cleaning the restroom.
1335
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,576
"What are you moaning about
now this morning again?"
1336
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:56,417
She'd be on there.
1337
01:11:56,441 --> 01:11:58,360
But I mean these people were,
1338
01:11:59,480 --> 01:12:01,056
for me at that particular time,
1339
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:03,736
what football is all about, you know?
1340
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:05,816
They'd say, "Ah you've done well, John."
1341
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:08,456
You've been lucky", you know.
1342
01:12:08,480 --> 01:12:11,376
Real Madrid and there's his Wydad,
1343
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:13,016
and winning the championship there
1344
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:14,216
and going all over Africa.
1345
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:15,736
And I'd say, "Yeah, yeah, that's right."
1346
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:19,016
I said, "But don't forget Dolly
1347
01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:20,256
(laughs)
1348
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:22,656
Down at the old Vetch Field."
1349
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:26,776
I mean, that is where it all started.
1350
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,280
(soft music)
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