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WILLIAM SHATNER:
Deals with the Devil,
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portals to hell
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and innocent people
possessed by demons.
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For thousands of years,
people around the world
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have believed
in the existence of Satan,
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an entity that is thought
to be the embodiment
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of pure evil.
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But is Satan just a myth?
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A figment
of our collective imagination?
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Or is he lurking,
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ready to tempt us
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and possess our souls?
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Well, that is what
we will try and find out.
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The Holy Land.
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For thousands of years,
religious pilgrims
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of many faiths have come
to this sacred city to express
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their devotion to God.
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But just outside
the walls of Jerusalem
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lies the Valley of Hinnom,
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an ancient place
of unholy worship
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where evil deeds
were performed long ago
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in honor of God's enemy, Satan.
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In the book of Jeremiah,
God reports,
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through His prophet,
that people outside Jerusalem
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in a place called
the Valley of Hinnom,
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are sacrificing their sons,
and also their daughters.
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And God explicitly says,
"I never asked you
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to do this satanic ritual,"
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and expresses that He's angry,
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that there's going to be
a terrible punishment for this.
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Historically speaking,
in the days of the Bible,
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not everybody was faithful
to the Lord.
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Satanism influenced
the Israelite community.
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And what they would do,
literally,
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was they'd create
a big pit of fire,
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and they actually
would sacrifice
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their firstborn male
through the fire.
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This was performed
in the Valley of Hinnom,
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which is actually the Hebrew
word today for "hell."
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I can't imagine
what would cause someone
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to want to sacrifice
their own child,
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to anything, for-for any reason.
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But this demonstrates how,
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in antiquity, people believed
that their crops wouldn't grow,
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that the rains wouldn't come
if they didn't offer sacrifices
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up to some satanic demons,
spirits, whatever.
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And now you have introduced
this new being
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that's responsible
for the bad things,
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and his name comes to be Satan.
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SHATNER: What can
explain the shocking events
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that took place
in the Valley of Hinnom
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thousands of years ago?
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Was it simply the result
of human wickedness?
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Or is it possible that, as
the biblical accounts suggest,
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Satan and his demons were
and still are real entities
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that have the power
to influence people?
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MIKKI BROCK: Some people
think of Satan as Beelzebub
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or Lucifer
or the Prince of Darkness
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or "the evil one" or Old Nick.
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And some of these names
come from scripture.
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A lot of them
come from folklore.
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And if you think of Satan
as this ubiquitous figure
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who's constantly tormenting
and tempting people,
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then it makes sense
that the Devil can be known
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by all of these
different nicknames.
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Is there really
a character of the Satan?
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Well, the definition of that
is going to differ
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between the major
world religions.
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But fear of an eternal damnation
in the afterlife
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has always been sufficient
to keep people religious,
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and in line with the beliefs
of their religious clerics,
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who warn them
that failure to comply
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will lead to an eternity
of suffering and damnation.
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Or in other words, the stories
from which this developed
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were to teach moral lessons.
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LAYCOCK: Throughout
history, many religions have
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interpreted the world
through the lens of having
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a figure of evil, Satan,
who is responsible
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for evil in the world.
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According
to Christian tradition,
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Satan was one
of the most powerful
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and beautiful of the angels.
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He rebelled against God,
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a third of the angels
sided with Satan,
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and there was a war in heaven.
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Satan lost
and was cast down into hell.
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Satan is the embodiment of evil,
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a fallen angel who tempts you
to not follow your best values.
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He is a god of sorts and he can
offer something like that to us,
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great knowledge,
control, mastery.
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The stuff of transcendence.
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Of course,
it will cost us everything.
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After all, this is not
a straight shooter.
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This is not somebody
who's going to tell the truth.
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His job is to tempt you.
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CHRIS BADER: Satan is
believed to have tried to tempt Jesus
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when he was in the desert with
visions of earthly delights.
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So Satan is continually,
throughout the Bible,
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someone trying to draw people
from God to evil.
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But the idea of Satan
flows throughout history
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and across religions.
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There is Mara in Buddhism,
who is a demonic king,
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a entity representing evil,
and therefore,
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would tend to take on
very frightening forms
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which often times are mixtures
of human and animal.
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There is Iblis, who is the
Islamic representation of Satan.
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So, we see this figure of Satan,
a singular entity
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that is in charge of evil
across religions and over time.
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BROCK: In Western Europe,
we start to see depictions
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of the Devil around
the eighth and ninth century.
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And the Devil becomes
depicted all over churches,
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in various other sorts of art
and statue and so forth.
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He is always portrayed
as a monstrous beast,
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half human, half animal,
sometimes winged,
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sometimes horned,
sometimes red, sometimes black,
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occasionally surrounded
by his subordinate demons,
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and often emerging
from the flames of hell.
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SHATNER: Does this
universal belief in an evil,
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tempting enemy of God
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suggest that Satan,
by whatever name he's called,
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is actually real?
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According to one of the most
important spiritual leaders
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in the world,
the answer is an emphatic yes.
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Pope Francis
publishes a statement
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which contains a dire warning
to those who don't believe
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in the existence of Satan.
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The pope declared
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that "we should not think
of the Devil as a myth,
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"a representation, a symbol,
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"a figure of speech or an idea.
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"This mistake would lead us
to let down our guard,
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"to grow careless
and end up more vulnerable."
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Pope Francis has spoken
about the reality of Satan
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than the previous popes have.
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And he often speaks about Satan
as a-a real person, of course.
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And also, that, he said,
"Don't try to argue with Satan.
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"Don't get into a dialogue
with Satan
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because he'll outfox you,"
which is good advice.
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BROCK:
The current pope,
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who people usually think of
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as being this sort of
progressive figure,
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he talks about the powers
of Satan as a literal entity.
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But the Devil is still
a very powerful force
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who sort of lurks in the bounds
of our imagination,
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and for some people,
genuine belief.
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It's a common misconception
amongst academics
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and secular people that
the Devil is an outmoded idea,
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that it went away
in the Middle Ages,
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and that couldn't be
further from the truth.
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Very recent data
from the United States
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shows that over half
of Americans believe
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that the Devil is a real entity,
not merely an idea.
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There are certainly many
who believe in the Devil,
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uh, by whatever name,
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and that doesn't mean
it's just fantasy.
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There's something happening.
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Human beings are encountering
something more than themselves,
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so one theory is it's the Devil.
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LAYCOCK: I think that
our ideas about things
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like supernatural evil
tend to depend
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on the situation we're in
and what's happening to us
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on a given day.
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And ultimately, many people say
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they absolutely believe
in the existence of Satan.
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If Satan is actually real,
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then it begs the question:
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how does he travel from hell
or wherever he is to Earth?
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Perhaps the answers can
be found by examining a city
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located in the mountains
of China.
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A city that many believe
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is a portal to Hell.
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SHATNER: High in the
mountains of Central China,
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along the banks
of the Yangtze river,
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lies a complex
of shrines and temples
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that is known
as Fengdu Ghost City.
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According to the Chinese legend,
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Fengdu is considered
to be a place
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where our world
meets the underworld.
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As you're approaching
Fengdu City on Ming mountain,
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you're imagining something
that's gonna be beautiful,
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but instead you see
these depictions
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of hellish images,
and devilish creatures
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are actually devouring
human beings.
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One of the first things
that you encounter, uh,
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when entering the complex is,
um, actually a gate
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that is shaped
as the head of a demon,
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and you have to enter it
through its open mouth.
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So it's a very impressive
first sight
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that the visitor encounters.
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JEREMIAH:
Walking through this complex
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is like walking
through hell itself.
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It's supposedly the place where
the Devil actually resides.
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SHATNER: The vast array of
devilish statues and carvings
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found throughout Fengdu
have earned the city
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a ghoulish reputation.
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But why did the ancient Chinese
feel the need to create
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an entire city filled
with such ghastly depictions
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of the forces of evil?
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Well, Fengdu Ghost City
is believed to have been
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first built
during the Han dynasty
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around the year 200 AD.
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The city was constructed
to represent
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Chinese believes
about the afterlife,
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and how a person's soul
is judged after death.
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STEAVU:
The Fengdu Ghost City is a type
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of purgatory space in Chinese
conceptions of the underworld.
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It's a place where the souls
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of recently-deceased people
are brought
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so that they can be in front
of the court of the underworld,
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and tried and judged
for all the actions,
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the good deeds and the misdeeds,
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that they performed
during their life.
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If their karmic balance
is positive,
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then after their judgement,
they are taken
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to various celestial realms
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where they can enjoy
a nicer afterlife.
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If your misdeeds
overshadowed your good deeds
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during your life, then you will
be unable to complete this trial
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and you will be presented
for judgement forthwith
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and then carry
out your sentence.
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SHATNER:
The final judgement takes place
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inside the oldest temple
in the city,
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where a person's soul
is put on trial by King Yama,
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the gatekeeper to hell.
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STEAVU: This main building,
which is actually King Yama's court,
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is presided over
by a statue of King Yama,
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very fearsome in appearance.
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King Yama is the overseer
of the underworld,
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in the Chinese tradition.
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So he judges the deeds
and misdeeds of the deceased
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and oversees
all of this distribution
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of postmortem justice.
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So he's bringing down
the full power
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of the underworld state to bear
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on the people that he judges.
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And he is also flanked
by a retinue of demons.
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Their role is to dole out
the punishment
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and to make sure that
the punishment is respected.
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For those who don't go straight
to the celestial realms,
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they have to spend
a certain amount of time
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in the 18 levels of hell.
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And you have a variety of hells,
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you have the hell of burning
oil,
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you have the hell of fire,
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you have the blood pool hell,
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in which you have
to spend a time,
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sometimes close to eternity.
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The fact that this has
become a major site
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that is open to the public
and that people can visit
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perhaps serves as a kind of
warning or an incitement,
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uh, for, uh, people to live
more moral lives
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and, uh, to be kinder to others.
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SHATNER: The idea that
your soul can be doomed to hell
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for eternity is concerning,
to say the least.
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But it also raises
an intriguing question.
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What led people to believe
that this particular location
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was so strongly
connected to the devil
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and hell in the first place?
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STEAVU: There's a long
history of connecting Fengdu
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to the gate of hell.
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The gui-men-guan,
or the gate of demons,
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and this is considered
to be the actual gate to hell,
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to the-to the courts
of the underworld.
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It's the actual entrance portal
to the netherworld.
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This portal to hell
is actually a two-way portal,
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so not only can
the deceased enter it
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to get to the netherworld,
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but you have the demons
of the netherworld
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who are allowed to leave,
who can emerge from it
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and sometimes wreak havoc
in the world of the living.
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SHATNER: The notion that Fengdu
Ghost City could be a portal to hell
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may sound far-fetched to some.
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But on the other hand,
there are similar places
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throughout the world that are
also thought to serve as bridges
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where Satan crosses over
from his realm into ours.
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The idea of a portal
to the underworld,
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a doorway to hell, shows up
in many different cultures
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and various locations.
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There are certain caves
in the Mediterranean area
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that that is how you enter
or someone returns from Hades.
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There's a burning bowl
in Turkmenistan.
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It's actually a natural
geological formation,
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but it is continually burning,
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and it looks like
a gateway to hell
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if you would descend there.
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The concept was always,
if Satan shows up on the Earth,
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people asked,
how did he get here?
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Does he have a magic power
where he can just appear
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and just disappear,
or is there a way to a shortcut?
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And what happened
in a lot of religions
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is you had to have
some kind of way
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to get from the underworld
up to the terrestrial plane.
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And so, you needed to have
a cave or some kind of portal.
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BADER:
These can be in graveyards,
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they can be in old mines.
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There's been a number
of these reported over time.
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These places have developed
a folklore or mythology
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that they are dangerous,
scary places you should not be.
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And the belief about
portals to hell
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is these are places where
the dimensional walls are thin.
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These are places
where it's easier
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for Satan and his minions
to cross over.
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Portals open us up
to different dimensions.
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Anyone with wisdom,
who cares for their soul,
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will stay far away
from those locations.
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Because the nature
of what has occurred there
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and continues to occur
in these places
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is always a danger.
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The dark side entities
are not too far away.
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Satan is clearly not
trapped in hell.
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He clearly has some ability
to go into our world
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and cause all sorts of problems.
In fact,
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he's often imagined as being
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temporarily in control
of the world.
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SHATNER: Could it really be
true that Satan and his demons
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use portals to spread
across the Earth?
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According to many systems
of belief, the answer is yes.
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And there are some
who believe that,
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once Satan has
entered our world,
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he has the ability
to take many different forms.
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It's recorded
in ancient literature
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that these forces
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who we call shedim, or demons,
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it is well known that
they can sometimes materialize
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into physical form.
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And they would look like
whatever form they would choose.
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In Christian demonology,
angels don't have bodies.
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Demons don't have bodies.
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So they can take
whatever form they want,
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they're natural shape-shifters.
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One of the common forms that
the Devil and/or his demons
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are expected to take
is that of the hellhound,
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often times described
as a monstrous black dog
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with red eyes.
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That has been commonly
reported across history,
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sometimes reported
even attacking a church.
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And there have been reports
of these things in modern times.
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So, we need to understand
that these entities
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are not relegated
to the ancient past.
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We must protect ourselves
from these interactions.
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Could we be surrounded
by satanic beings
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that have the power to take
any shape they please?
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It's an alarming thought.
At least, to most of us.
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But believe it or not,
there are those
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who have actually chosen
to welcome evil into their lives
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by making a deal with the Devil.
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SHATNER:
This small town,
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located within an area
known as the Mississippi Delta,
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has been called
the Birthplace of the Blues.
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FISHOF:
The Delta blues music
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basically started
in the early '20s,
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and it came from Mississippi
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and it was
African American musicians
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who sang very soulfully...
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very fiercely with their
guitars, with their harmonicas.
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And it wasn't usually
a whole band,
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It was usually
an individual person.
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SHATNER: Of all the blues
musicians to play
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in Clarksdale
during the 1920s and '30s,
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one of the most influential
was a guitarist,
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singer and songwriter
named Robert Johnson.
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SYLVESTER HOOVER:
Robert Johnson,
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before he got really famous,
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he would go down on the corner
and play his blues music.
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But early on in Robert Johnson's
career, he wasn't that good.
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The Delta people
would tell Robert Johnson,
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"You go to the cemetery
and play,
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"and you would have
a big audience,
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and nobody would complain
how bad you play your music."
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FISHOF: Robert Johnson,
in his early part of his career,
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was an okay harmonica player,
not a great guitar player.
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He just, uh, basically
thrown out of places
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because he really wasn't
considered very good.
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ANTHONY SHERROD:
He really wasn't good at all,
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but he kept on wanting to do it,
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to show people
that he had potential.
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SHATNER:
When faced with the prospect
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of having his musical ambitions
thwarted,
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according to legend,
Robert Johnson chose to enlist
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the help of a higher power,
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by making a deal with the Devil.
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HOOVER: Peoples in the
Delta would say, if you play blues
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at midnight at the crossroads,
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you gonna meet
a lot of strange peoples,
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and you might meet Satan
himself at the crossroad.
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And so, Robert Johnson
went to the crossroad
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that Saturday night.
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He really went
to the crossroads,
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gave his guitar to the Devil.
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The Devil strummed it a few
times and gave it back to him,
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and from that moment on,
he sold his soul to the Devil
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and became an amazing
guitar player overnight.
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And that's how the legend goes.
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He came back maybe two
and a half or three hours later,
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and this guy
was a different person.
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After he left the crossroad,
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he was doing stuff
that he couldn't do before.
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Whatever he did,
he never was the same again.
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Honeyboy said
he could play so great,
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people would come
from here and yonder
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to hear this guy play his music.
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This guy seemed
like he had a magnet
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after he left the crossroad.
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FISHOF: From that point on, he
became an amazing guitar player.
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He was just a lot different
than what any musician could do.
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Robert Johnson's legacy will
live for many, many years.
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You cannot listen
to a song from the Beatles,
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Eric Clapton, Led Zeppelin
or from the Rolling Stones
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without giving credit
to Robert Johnson's style
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that many
of these musicians copied.
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And even Keith Richards said
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he could play the guitar
like three musicians together.
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He had that ability.
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SHATNER: Today, Robert
Johnson is widely considered
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to be one of the greatest
blues performers of all time.
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And his songs are among
the most influential recordings
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in the history of popular music.
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But there are many who point
to the lyrics of his songs
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as evidence that he really did
make a pact with Satan
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in order to achieve greatness.
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FISHOF:
Robert Johnson,
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in his music,
refers to the Devil
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basically by saying,
"I went to the crossroads
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and fell on my knees."
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And he asked the Lord for mercy.
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BROCK: If you believe
that the Devil is ever-present,
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that you can encounter him
on the crossroads,
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and that's a really
critical idea
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informing this notion
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of the Faustian bargain,
the deal with the Devil.
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This promise of their souls
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in exchange for something else
from Satan.
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This is key to the fear
of the Devil.
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That Satan could be so knowing,
so ubiquitous, so powerful,
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that he could know
your secret wants,
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and he could offer
something to you,
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and you might
be willing to take it
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depending on your circumstance.
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SHATNER: Did Robert
Johnson sell his soul to the Devil?
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It's a question
that is hard to answer.
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But the mysterious circumstances
surrounding his death in 1938
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have helped perpetuate the myth.
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FISHOF: Robert Johnson's
death is basically a mystery.
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Many say that he met up
with a jealous husband
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after flirting with his wife
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and the husband gave him
a bottle of whiskey
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that was filled with poison.
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There's many other theories
of-of how he passed away,
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but many people say
he just died,
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and maybe it was time
for the Devil to take his soul.
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HOOVER: That mystery, it
throws a monkey wrench in it,
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and some people
gonna believe this,
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some people gonna believe that.
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00:25:21,344 --> 00:25:24,346
Didn't nobody know
the full story of this guy
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because that's the way
he portrayed himself.
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You know? S... And-and that's
just the way it is.
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The mystery of the crossroad.
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But while some people choose
to do business with Satan,
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others fall
under his spell unwillingly,
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a type of encounter
that is referred to as...
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demonic possession.
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SHATNER: Anneliese
Michel, a 20-year-old student
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at the University of Wurzburg,
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claims that she's hearing
disembodied voices
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and seeing visions of the Devil.
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Before long, her family
comes to believe that Anneliese
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suffers from a condition
that defies understanding...
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demonic possession.
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PICKNETT:
Anneliese Michel was indeed
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tormented
by a possessing something.
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She spoke
in a horrendously growly voice.
477
00:26:38,013 --> 00:26:39,888
(Anneliese speaking
indistinctly)
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PICKNETT:
Her eyes seemed to go black,
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and she had a great aversion
to holy statues,
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of which there were
a great many in the house
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because they were
very pious Catholics.
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And she was taken to a doctor
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and who said
she might be epileptic,
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00:27:09,118 --> 00:27:14,048
um, and she was taken
to a psychiatrist,
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and nothing changed in her life.
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In fact, she was
getting worse and worse.
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BADER: Her family believed from
the beginning she was possessed.
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The Catholic Church
accepted that framework
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and engaged in the exorcism.
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Ultimately, Anneliese Michel
died of starvation
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and dehydration over the course
of numerous exorcisms.
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This was a case
where that belief
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directly led to her death.
494
00:27:41,493 --> 00:27:45,737
What we cannot say for certain
is what was really going on.
495
00:27:45,822 --> 00:27:48,240
I can't say that she for sure
was not possessed
496
00:27:48,333 --> 00:27:49,833
or for sure was.
497
00:27:49,918 --> 00:27:52,828
SHATNER:
The story of Anneliese Michel
498
00:27:52,921 --> 00:27:54,672
is perhaps the best-known case
499
00:27:54,756 --> 00:27:57,758
of an alleged
demonic possession.
500
00:27:57,917 --> 00:28:01,503
But what happened to her?
501
00:28:01,587 --> 00:28:04,431
Was she actually
possessed by demons?
502
00:28:04,516 --> 00:28:08,769
And if so, how does one identify
when a person's mind and body
503
00:28:08,853 --> 00:28:13,348
have been taken over by Satan?
504
00:28:13,433 --> 00:28:15,693
RICHARD GALLAGHER:
During the course of my career,
505
00:28:15,777 --> 00:28:19,530
I've witnessed a number of cases
of possession in-in my life,
506
00:28:19,614 --> 00:28:21,940
but I definitely started
as a skeptic.
507
00:28:22,024 --> 00:28:25,953
I certainly never thought
I would see anything
508
00:28:26,112 --> 00:28:30,207
sort of paranormal or diabolic.
509
00:28:32,535 --> 00:28:36,037
A priest who, I guess,
knew I was Catholic...
510
00:28:36,122 --> 00:28:39,374
I don't exactly know how
he got my name... but he came
511
00:28:39,459 --> 00:28:42,794
to my office when I was
at Cornell Medical College.
512
00:28:42,879 --> 00:28:46,473
And he said, "Dr. Gallagher,
I'd like you to, uh,
513
00:28:46,558 --> 00:28:50,894
"evaluate someone for me
514
00:28:50,979 --> 00:28:54,306
who I think has
a demonic attack."
515
00:28:54,390 --> 00:28:58,068
And I said, "Well,
with all due respect, Father,
516
00:28:58,227 --> 00:29:01,405
"you know, I'm-I'm
an academic psychiatrist,
517
00:29:01,489 --> 00:29:04,491
and I'm pretty skeptical
of those sort of things."
518
00:29:04,576 --> 00:29:06,660
And I remember
what he said to me, he said,
519
00:29:06,745 --> 00:29:08,245
"You're the perfect man
for the job
520
00:29:08,329 --> 00:29:11,749
because we want somebody
who's skeptical."
521
00:29:11,833 --> 00:29:14,585
Of course, in the years since,
you know, 25-plus years,
522
00:29:14,669 --> 00:29:19,998
I've seen so much
that I'm not a skeptic anymore.
523
00:29:20,082 --> 00:29:23,177
There are very strict criteria
524
00:29:23,261 --> 00:29:28,423
which clearly have to be
present to distinguish
525
00:29:28,508 --> 00:29:31,935
the case from a psychiatric
or medical disorder.
526
00:29:32,094 --> 00:29:35,764
You have to see something
that is inexplicable
527
00:29:35,857 --> 00:29:40,435
in terms of purely
materialist science.
528
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,105
Things that could
not possibly manifest
529
00:29:44,190 --> 00:29:48,118
in somebody who doesn't
have a diabolic attack.
530
00:29:48,203 --> 00:29:53,707
The first case sent to me
was a woman who claimed
531
00:29:53,866 --> 00:29:56,201
that she would be lying in bed,
532
00:29:56,285 --> 00:30:01,298
and she would be pummeled
by invisible forces.
533
00:30:04,052 --> 00:30:06,220
She and her husband
were convinced
534
00:30:06,304 --> 00:30:09,598
that she was attacked by demons.
535
00:30:12,802 --> 00:30:14,561
So we did a number
of medical tests on her
536
00:30:14,646 --> 00:30:17,314
because she had bruises
all over her body.
537
00:30:17,398 --> 00:30:20,150
And at the end
of my evaluations...
538
00:30:20,235 --> 00:30:24,988
And she was a very sane,
lovely woman...
539
00:30:25,147 --> 00:30:26,947
I said to the priest,
"Look, this doesn't seem
540
00:30:26,991 --> 00:30:32,246
like a medical or psychiatric
case, it doesn't seem possible."
541
00:30:32,330 --> 00:30:34,656
SHATNER:
Mysterious bruises
542
00:30:34,749 --> 00:30:37,835
inflicted by invisible forces?
543
00:30:37,994 --> 00:30:39,586
While that may sound
like something
544
00:30:39,671 --> 00:30:41,663
out of a Hollywood horror movie,
545
00:30:41,747 --> 00:30:44,842
the truth is that accounts
of possession
546
00:30:45,001 --> 00:30:47,344
have been recorded
for thousands of years.
547
00:30:49,422 --> 00:30:51,265
BADER:
Any scholar can tell you,
548
00:30:51,424 --> 00:30:54,009
cases of demonic possession go
all the way back to the Bible,
549
00:30:54,093 --> 00:30:57,596
when Jesus had to cast
the demon out of a man
550
00:30:57,689 --> 00:31:00,015
into a herd of swine,
551
00:31:00,099 --> 00:31:02,100
who then ran off of a cliff
and into the water.
552
00:31:02,184 --> 00:31:03,777
Very famous story in the Bible.
553
00:31:03,862 --> 00:31:06,021
And stories
of demonic possession,
554
00:31:06,114 --> 00:31:08,198
they are not confined
to Christianity.
555
00:31:10,368 --> 00:31:12,263
The idea of possession
is inherently tied to the idea
556
00:31:12,287 --> 00:31:15,447
of Satan and demons,
and is an attempt by Satan
557
00:31:15,531 --> 00:31:18,208
to take over your personality
to ultimately control you.
558
00:31:21,546 --> 00:31:23,622
The film The Exorcist
is believed to have
559
00:31:23,715 --> 00:31:26,717
really brought attention
to the idea of possession,
560
00:31:26,801 --> 00:31:29,219
but it's not that those ideas
started with The Exorcist,
561
00:31:29,304 --> 00:31:32,055
those ideas spread
with The Exorcist.
562
00:31:33,883 --> 00:31:35,035
STEPHEN ROSSETTI:
The Exorcist was actually
563
00:31:35,059 --> 00:31:37,644
based on a real case.
564
00:31:37,729 --> 00:31:42,316
It was a 12-year-old boy
who was possessed, not a girl.
565
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,727
How did he get possessed?
Using a ouija board for months.
566
00:31:45,820 --> 00:31:48,071
Start doing something occult,
567
00:31:48,230 --> 00:31:50,741
that creates
an inner vulnerability to evil.
568
00:31:53,077 --> 00:31:55,245
You're using magic that does
not come from the Lord.
569
00:31:55,330 --> 00:31:57,155
You might not know this,
570
00:31:57,239 --> 00:31:59,491
but you're actually invoking
the powers of Satan,
571
00:31:59,575 --> 00:32:01,418
whether you believe it or not.
572
00:32:01,577 --> 00:32:04,838
GALLAGHER:
Most people who are possessed,
573
00:32:04,997 --> 00:32:09,259
in a sense, they've invited
it in, wittingly or unwittingly.
574
00:32:09,344 --> 00:32:14,014
Possession is the most
dramatic attack
575
00:32:14,098 --> 00:32:16,508
of a demon upon a human being.
576
00:32:16,592 --> 00:32:19,511
In a way,
577
00:32:19,604 --> 00:32:22,856
spiritual warfare should
be a concern of everybody.
578
00:32:22,941 --> 00:32:26,443
That we're all sort of
in a battle
579
00:32:26,602 --> 00:32:29,947
in our own souls
between goodness and evil.
580
00:32:35,536 --> 00:32:39,039
If Satan is trying
to possess us,
581
00:32:39,123 --> 00:32:42,376
are we defenseless
against his attacks?
582
00:32:42,460 --> 00:32:44,461
Or is there a way to fight back?
583
00:32:44,545 --> 00:32:47,205
Well, there are those
who believe
584
00:32:47,298 --> 00:32:52,970
that there is a powerful tool
we can use to protect ourselves.
585
00:32:56,808 --> 00:32:59,977
The ancient rite of exorcism.
586
00:33:09,145 --> 00:33:11,071
SHATNER: Thousands
of Christians are gathered
587
00:33:11,230 --> 00:33:13,064
in Saint Peter's Square
588
00:33:13,149 --> 00:33:16,568
to watch Pope Francis
perform Sunday mass.
589
00:33:16,652 --> 00:33:19,746
As he greets the crowd,
the pope lays his hands
590
00:33:19,831 --> 00:33:22,582
on the forehead of a man
who is thought to be possessed
591
00:33:22,667 --> 00:33:24,334
and recites a prayer.
592
00:33:24,493 --> 00:33:27,671
A video of the incident
went viral,
593
00:33:27,755 --> 00:33:29,756
and left many viewers
to conclude
594
00:33:29,841 --> 00:33:32,259
that they had just
witnessed the pope
595
00:33:32,418 --> 00:33:35,503
performing an exorcism.
596
00:33:35,588 --> 00:33:37,172
GALLAGHER:
Pope Francis
597
00:33:37,256 --> 00:33:40,008
believes in evil spirits,
he believes in Satan,
598
00:33:40,092 --> 00:33:42,844
he believes in the possibility
of possession
599
00:33:42,928 --> 00:33:44,688
and the need for exorcists.
600
00:33:44,772 --> 00:33:49,434
He's quite traditional
in that respect.
601
00:33:49,527 --> 00:33:52,195
Exorcisms appear in the oldest
writings that we have.
602
00:33:54,365 --> 00:33:57,951
From the ancient Near East,
from India, from China.
603
00:33:58,036 --> 00:34:02,706
So exorcism is literally
as old as recorded history.
604
00:34:02,790 --> 00:34:05,093
There's many different forms
of exorcism all over the world
605
00:34:05,117 --> 00:34:06,710
and in different religions,
606
00:34:06,794 --> 00:34:08,787
and most have
various types of objects
607
00:34:08,871 --> 00:34:11,214
that are used to drive
away unwanted spirits.
608
00:34:11,299 --> 00:34:15,293
Holy relics, crosses,
uh, holy water,
609
00:34:15,386 --> 00:34:17,466
and even exorcism itself
are what the Catholic Church
610
00:34:17,546 --> 00:34:18,889
called sacramentals.
611
00:34:23,135 --> 00:34:27,305
So, the church's view is that
these are symbolic expressions
612
00:34:27,389 --> 00:34:29,390
of the authority of the Church.
613
00:34:29,475 --> 00:34:32,235
And so, even though they are,
in a sense, symbolic,
614
00:34:32,394 --> 00:34:34,071
at the same time,
they have real power...
615
00:34:36,232 --> 00:34:39,659
and can help a priest
to display the authority
616
00:34:39,744 --> 00:34:41,411
of the Church
and drive away demons.
617
00:34:43,155 --> 00:34:45,665
SHATNER:
If Satan and his army of demons
618
00:34:45,750 --> 00:34:49,586
are really waging a war
against humanity,
619
00:34:49,670 --> 00:34:54,091
then exorcists
are on the front lines.
620
00:34:54,175 --> 00:34:56,320
It's important to realize
that an exorcism is not magic.
621
00:34:56,344 --> 00:34:57,585
W-We don't do magic.
622
00:34:57,670 --> 00:35:00,088
It's a prayer, essentially.
623
00:35:00,172 --> 00:35:02,349
It's the Church's prayer
to God and Jesus
624
00:35:02,508 --> 00:35:03,767
to cast out the demons.
625
00:35:05,010 --> 00:35:06,603
And so we invoke that authority
626
00:35:06,762 --> 00:35:08,772
as his disciples
to cast out the demons.
627
00:35:08,931 --> 00:35:11,850
And then we use
the Church's prayer
628
00:35:11,934 --> 00:35:13,860
called the Rite of Exorcism.
629
00:35:13,945 --> 00:35:16,279
We use holy objects
like Rosary beads,
630
00:35:16,438 --> 00:35:21,034
holy water, crucifixes,
any holy object,
631
00:35:21,193 --> 00:35:22,452
uh, Satan can't stand it.
632
00:35:23,955 --> 00:35:27,457
When the person is manifesting
a demonic presence,
633
00:35:27,542 --> 00:35:29,284
The first thing
that happens is...
634
00:35:29,377 --> 00:35:32,537
you've got this
incredibly evil look.
635
00:35:32,621 --> 00:35:34,015
As a matter of fact, they'll
look at me and they'll say,
636
00:35:34,039 --> 00:35:36,374
"You stupid priest."
637
00:35:36,467 --> 00:35:39,553
If you've ever really looked
into the eyes of evil,
638
00:35:39,712 --> 00:35:41,638
you won't forget it.
639
00:35:41,722 --> 00:35:43,882
And then different things
happen which are physically
640
00:35:43,975 --> 00:35:45,559
not explainable.
641
00:35:45,718 --> 00:35:48,469
A 110-pound young woman
642
00:35:48,554 --> 00:35:50,638
throwing three big guys
around the room.
643
00:35:50,723 --> 00:35:52,891
So we've had some
of those sorts of things.
644
00:35:52,975 --> 00:35:54,962
A couple teams in the country
have had people levitate.
645
00:35:54,986 --> 00:35:57,061
We-we haven't.
646
00:35:57,155 --> 00:35:58,995
Uh, so there are...
Things do happen like that.
647
00:36:00,983 --> 00:36:02,242
SHATNER:
Levitation?
648
00:36:02,326 --> 00:36:03,994
It's one thing
to believe that Satan
649
00:36:04,078 --> 00:36:06,079
can take control
of a person's mind
650
00:36:06,238 --> 00:36:08,582
or even attack their body.
651
00:36:08,741 --> 00:36:12,002
But floating in midair?
652
00:36:12,086 --> 00:36:17,007
Is such an extraordinary
phenomenon even possible?
653
00:36:17,166 --> 00:36:18,917
About 35, you know,
salt of the earth people
654
00:36:19,010 --> 00:36:21,419
have told me they have
witnessed, during a possession,
655
00:36:21,512 --> 00:36:22,846
a levitation.
656
00:36:25,424 --> 00:36:28,602
It's widely believed
in these circles
657
00:36:28,686 --> 00:36:32,355
one of the paranormal things
that demons can exhibit
658
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,150
is getting their possessed
victim to levitate.
659
00:36:36,777 --> 00:36:39,771
A lot of people challenge
what I say,
660
00:36:39,864 --> 00:36:43,283
and they say, "Well, okay,
you believe in levitation,
661
00:36:43,367 --> 00:36:46,444
which is against
the laws of science."
662
00:36:46,537 --> 00:36:48,613
Of course it's against
the laws of normal science.
663
00:36:48,697 --> 00:36:49,817
I understand that, you know.
664
00:36:49,874 --> 00:36:52,283
I'm not saying
I don't believe in gravity.
665
00:36:52,376 --> 00:36:54,878
What I'm saying is
there are spiritual forces,
666
00:36:54,962 --> 00:36:56,871
including dark forces,
667
00:36:56,956 --> 00:37:00,792
that can violate
the-the normal laws of nature.
668
00:37:00,876 --> 00:37:03,962
SHATNER: To some, the stories
about the power of exorcism
669
00:37:04,055 --> 00:37:06,464
may seem far-fetched.
670
00:37:06,557 --> 00:37:10,718
But on the other hand,
this practice of banishing evil
671
00:37:10,803 --> 00:37:13,730
has offered spiritual relief
672
00:37:13,814 --> 00:37:17,234
to people
from all walks of life.
673
00:37:17,318 --> 00:37:19,310
In most of the cases
that we have,
674
00:37:19,395 --> 00:37:21,404
the people are very
psychologically balanced.
675
00:37:22,740 --> 00:37:24,741
We have professional people.
We have lawyers.
676
00:37:24,825 --> 00:37:26,651
We have military people.
677
00:37:26,735 --> 00:37:29,153
We usually heal on both tracks
at the same time.
678
00:37:29,238 --> 00:37:30,747
We heal on the spiritual level.
679
00:37:30,831 --> 00:37:32,582
We also heal
the psychological level.
680
00:37:32,741 --> 00:37:34,993
Many times,
we find that the demonic feeds
681
00:37:35,077 --> 00:37:37,412
off the internal wounds,
the angers,
682
00:37:37,505 --> 00:37:39,506
the unforgiveness, the hurts.
683
00:37:39,665 --> 00:37:42,092
So when you start healing
some of those inner wounds,
684
00:37:42,251 --> 00:37:44,427
they have less to feed off
and grab onto.
685
00:37:46,931 --> 00:37:51,101
Exorcists believe they can
channel the power of God
686
00:37:51,185 --> 00:37:55,680
to drive Satan away, and that's
certainly a comforting notion.
687
00:37:55,773 --> 00:38:00,110
But then again, is it really
possible to defeat evil?
688
00:38:00,194 --> 00:38:04,355
Perhaps the answer can be found
by examining a recent report
689
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,192
about the surprisingly
high number of people
690
00:38:08,286 --> 00:38:12,956
who claim to have had
an encounter with the Devil.
691
00:38:22,133 --> 00:38:24,801
SHATNER: The Roman Catholic
Archdiocese of Indianapolis reveals
692
00:38:24,885 --> 00:38:27,637
that in just one year,
693
00:38:27,796 --> 00:38:32,058
they have received
1,700 requests for exorcisms.
694
00:38:32,143 --> 00:38:35,228
Ten times more
than in previous years.
695
00:38:35,313 --> 00:38:40,233
But what could explain
this rise in demand?
696
00:38:40,318 --> 00:38:42,152
All of the exorcists
I know in this country
697
00:38:42,311 --> 00:38:43,895
are busier and busier,
and busier.
698
00:38:43,988 --> 00:38:46,397
We, frankly, we can't deal
with all the cases.
699
00:38:46,482 --> 00:38:51,152
We have people come to us
who are Muslim or Jewish,
700
00:38:51,236 --> 00:38:54,405
atheist, many don't believe
in God or whatever,
701
00:38:54,498 --> 00:38:56,824
but they know they have demons,
and they need some help.
702
00:38:56,909 --> 00:38:58,835
So we'll-we'll often
exorcise people
703
00:38:58,994 --> 00:39:01,171
of other faiths
or people with no faith.
704
00:39:02,506 --> 00:39:05,083
CARGILL: I think
exorcists are so busy today
705
00:39:05,176 --> 00:39:09,012
if somebody believes
they're possessed by a demon,
706
00:39:09,096 --> 00:39:12,599
then maybe the only remedy
for that
707
00:39:12,758 --> 00:39:16,177
is for a spiritual authority
to come in and tell them,
708
00:39:16,261 --> 00:39:18,438
"This spirit is out of you."
709
00:39:18,522 --> 00:39:20,932
They're not going
to believe that a doctor
710
00:39:21,016 --> 00:39:23,693
can remedy evil manifestations
of some sort.
711
00:39:25,938 --> 00:39:28,940
SHATNER:
Evil manifestations?
712
00:39:29,024 --> 00:39:32,619
Is it possible
that Satan is not only real
713
00:39:32,778 --> 00:39:38,458
but that his influence on our
world is actually increasing?
714
00:39:38,617 --> 00:39:42,045
ROSSETTI: There are certain
hallmarks of Satan's presence.
715
00:39:42,129 --> 00:39:45,623
Discord, rage,
716
00:39:45,707 --> 00:39:48,635
violence,
717
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,388
lack of dialogue,
lack of compassion,
718
00:39:51,472 --> 00:39:53,515
hatred,
all these sorts of things.
719
00:39:55,559 --> 00:39:57,644
I think we see more and more
of that in this country,
720
00:39:57,728 --> 00:40:01,055
so I think we're seeing more
and more of Satan's influence.
721
00:40:01,140 --> 00:40:03,149
Does that mean people
are possessed? No.
722
00:40:03,234 --> 00:40:05,402
But can Satan influence
a whole culture? Sure, he can.
723
00:40:07,488 --> 00:40:09,564
BADER: If you start
looking very, very hard
724
00:40:09,648 --> 00:40:12,733
for satanism, you will find it,
725
00:40:12,818 --> 00:40:14,738
You will find certain crimes
that draw attention,
726
00:40:14,829 --> 00:40:16,913
like the Richard Ramirez
crimes...
727
00:40:18,740 --> 00:40:20,083
that clearly have some sort
728
00:40:20,167 --> 00:40:21,751
of satanic motivation
behind them.
729
00:40:23,662 --> 00:40:26,923
One of the most iconic images
of Richard Ramirez
730
00:40:27,007 --> 00:40:30,001
is of him holding up his hand
with a pentagram on his palm
731
00:40:30,085 --> 00:40:32,011
and showing it to the jury.
732
00:40:32,096 --> 00:40:35,098
And this is unfortunately
what has happened in many cases
733
00:40:35,257 --> 00:40:37,016
where a serial killer might
leave behind
734
00:40:37,101 --> 00:40:41,187
so-called satanic symbols
or images at a crime scene.
735
00:40:41,272 --> 00:40:43,189
Any crime will be
more frightening
736
00:40:43,348 --> 00:40:48,027
to the general public if a layer
of satanism is added to it,
737
00:40:48,112 --> 00:40:51,355
because that means this crime
goes beyond human motivation
738
00:40:51,449 --> 00:40:53,858
and that there was something
more at work here
739
00:40:53,942 --> 00:40:55,929
just than a deranged person,
that maybe the devil himself
740
00:40:55,953 --> 00:40:57,862
was motivating these killings.
741
00:40:57,946 --> 00:41:00,698
ROSSETTI:
Satan tempts everyone.
742
00:41:00,782 --> 00:41:03,960
And sometimes it's subtle,
but he's a great psychologist.
743
00:41:04,119 --> 00:41:06,287
He knows you,
he tries to manipulate you,
744
00:41:06,371 --> 00:41:09,132
and sometimes you don't
know it's the evil one.
745
00:41:09,216 --> 00:41:12,719
You know, the voice says,
"You're evil. You're a sinner.
746
00:41:12,803 --> 00:41:15,713
God doesn't care about you,
there's no hope for you."
747
00:41:15,797 --> 00:41:18,933
That's not God's voice, that's
Satan's voice in your ear.
748
00:41:24,482 --> 00:41:26,807
So, what do you think?
749
00:41:26,901 --> 00:41:31,070
Is Satan an all-powerful
lord of darkness?
750
00:41:31,155 --> 00:41:33,990
The source of all evil
in the world?
751
00:41:34,074 --> 00:41:38,986
Or is he an idea
that humanity created
752
00:41:39,079 --> 00:41:42,332
an excuse,
or a method of control
753
00:41:42,491 --> 00:41:46,160
so that we don't have
to face the darkness
754
00:41:46,245 --> 00:41:49,923
that lurks within ourselves?
755
00:41:50,007 --> 00:41:51,749
Perhaps the answers
to these questions
756
00:41:51,833 --> 00:41:54,585
will, as they have
for centuries,
757
00:41:54,670 --> 00:41:59,015
remain UnXplained.
758
00:41:59,099 --> 00:42:02,185
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