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[Isobel] In Afghanistan,
the U.S. spent billions
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trying to eradicate
the illegal drug trade.
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The Taliban say
they're gonna crack down
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on the drug trade.
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[person]
speaking native language
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[Isobel] The country
at the moment is
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in an economic crisis.
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Do you feel angry
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at the international
community?
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Do you feel
like you've been abandoned?
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[all praying]
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dramatic music
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[Vegas] Police use of force has
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a long, contentious history
in the U.S.
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Is there a dynamic
that makes it difficult
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to report police misconduct?
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It is bullshit.
It's absolute crap.
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[trainer] Give me your arm.
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[officer] If I correct
my partner,
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he gets upset.
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[Charmaine]
The blue wall of silence
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is tolerated from the top.
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Step up and step in.
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dramatic music
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tense music
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[siren wailing]
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[Isobel] We're with a team
right now that's heading out
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on a night raid with
the Taliban security forces.
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We're heading to an area
that is known
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to have a lot of drug addicts.
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What they're planning to do is
to forcibly round them up
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and take them to a hospital
for treatment.
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It's a lot of Taliban
securing this area.
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This is a big operation.
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You got a lot of men.
You got a lot of guns.
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[soldier]
speaking native language
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[Isobel] Dr. Ahmad Zahir
Sultani works
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with the Taliban to round up
hundreds of drug addicts
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scattered across Kabul.
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He runs the largest
drug rehab center in the city,
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but he's fighting
an uphill battle.
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Oh, wow, there's
so many people down here.
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[Ahmad]
speaking native language
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[addict]
speaking native language
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[Ahmad]
speaking native language
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[Isobel] They're using
heroin and meth together?
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[Isobel] What are you smoking?
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[addict]
speaking native language
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-[Isobel] Heroin?
-speaking native language
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[both]
speaking native language
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[Isobel] He's an old patient?
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[Isobel] Oh, wow.
And he's using again?
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[Isobel] He's relapsed.
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No, how many people have
already come to your clinic?
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speaking native language
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[soldier]
speaking native language
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speaking native language
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- speaking native language
-[Isobel] Whoa, whoa, whoa.
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You can hear
the Taliban going around
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beating people, kicking them,
tying their hands up,
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and getting them on the bus.
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[all] speaking native language
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[Isobel] These users
have a seemingly
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endless supply
of illicit drugs.
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For decades,
U.S. and NATO forces spent
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billions of dollars
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trying to eradicate opium
in Afghanistan.
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Nothing worked.
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Instead,
production has boomed.
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In 2021, 438,000 acres
of poppies were planted,
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yielding enough opium
to produce
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up to 650 tons of heroin
sold worldwide.
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Throughout their insurgency,
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the Taliban harnessed
this trade
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to finance their rise
and eventual return to power.
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[both]
speaking native language
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[Isobel] Now almost a year
after the Taliban seized
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control of the country,
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they're eager to launder
their reputation
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and have recently banned
the drug trade outright.
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Addicts are increasingly
being sent
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to rehabilitation centers,
or worse, prison.
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[indistinct chatter]
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percussive music
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[Isobel] So we're just heading
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towards Helmand Province
right now.
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This is where the majority
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of Afghanistan's opium
is grown.
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And it's causing major issues
for the population.
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[vendor]
speaking native language
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So this looks like a pretty
standard Afghan market.
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You got bars of soap.
You got a lot of vegetables.
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You got a lot
of livestock being sold.
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And then here
on the side of the road,
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you got bags and bags
full of opium
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just being sold
out in the open.
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[vendor]
speaking native language
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[Isobel]
What is this you're selling?
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speaking native language
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Can I have a look inside?
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speaking native language
[chuckles]
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[Isobel]
How much is this bag worth?
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speaking native language
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[Isobel] Who is it
that's buying all this?
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[vendor]
speaking native language
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The Taliban say they're gonna
crack down on the drug trade.
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Have you experienced that
at all?
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speaking native language
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The economy is
very, very difficult
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right now in Afghanistan.
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Are more people selling opium
because of that?
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speaking native language
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[Isobel] Before the Taliban
returned to power last year,
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foreign aid made up 45%
of Afghanistan's GDP.
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Those funds have largely
vanished,
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while sanctions
against the regime
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for their human rights record
have left
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the country's banking sector
crippled
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and frozen billions
of dollars' worth
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of Afghanistan's
assets abroad.
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Left with few options,
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farmers continue to sell
their opium,
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the deadly precursor
to heroin.
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soft music
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[Isobel]
So what are you doing?
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[farmer]
speaking native language
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[Isobel] How can you tell
that this is good or not?
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[farmer]
speaking native language
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And what's it
supposed to smell like?
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'Cause it smells very strong.
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[farmer]
speaking native language
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Is that what you use
to treat your flu?
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speaking native language
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[Isobel]
So is this ready to use now
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or does it now get turned
into something else?
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[farmer]
speaking native language
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[Isobel]
Over the last 20 years,
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the Taliban have been
in insurgency.
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How much has the opium trade
helped the Taliban survive?
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[farmer]
speaking native language
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[Isobel] The Taliban now say
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that growing and processing
opium is un-Islamic.
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But their recent crackdown
on the trade could have
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real impact on a desperately
struggling economy.
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In 2021, opiates accounted
for $1.8 to $2.7 billion,
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according to the UN's office
on drugs and crime.
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More than half the population
doesn't have
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enough food to eat,
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with an estimated
three million children
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at risk
of severe malnutrition.
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Health clinics are overflowing
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as mothers struggle to find
the basic necessities
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to keep their children alive.
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-[baby screaming]
-[indistinct chatter]
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uneasy music
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The situation
inside the country's capital
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is no different.
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At this food distribution site
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run by the World Food Program,
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Afghans looking
for something to eat
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find themselves at odds
with armed Taliban fighters.
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This is really, really
hectic here.
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There's a huge, huge line
of people waiting to get aid.
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And then the Taliban soldiers
are guarding the gates
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to make sure that
not too many people get in.
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But people are really,
really desperate for food here.
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[all] speaking native language
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[Isobel] The reality
on the ground at the moment
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is that any aid groups
working here
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are gonna have to cooperate
with the Taliban.
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What did you guys come here
for today?
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speaking native language
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speaking native language
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[Isobel]
Do you feel angry
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at the international
community?
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Do you feel
like you've been abandoned?
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speaking native language
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[Isobel]
This level of poverty makes it
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nearly impossible
for the country to wean itself
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from dependence
on opium production
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as a source of income.
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This also exacerbated
an existing epidemic.
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Around 10%
of Afghanistan's population
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struggle with addiction,
according to the UN.
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The Avicenna Medical Center
is one
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of the country's few remaining
rehab facilities.
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Here hundreds of drug addicts
settle in
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for a 45-day rehabilitation.
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[indistinct radio chatter]
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-speaking native language
-[Isobel] So these guys are
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just coming out of the buses.
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Some of them are sweating.
Some of them are shivering.
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They look like they're
in real, real states.
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A lot of them
are still using drugs.
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They're being lined up here.
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They say
they're gonna search them
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before stripping them,
taking them inside,
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and cleaning them up.
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[soldier]
speaking native language
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[both] speaking native language
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-[Isobel] It's what?
-speaking native language
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[Isobel] The treatment
facilities are basic.
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And the path to recovery
is painful.
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Users are stripped down
and forced to go cold turkey.
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You got a lot of people round
in here.
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Are you at full capacity?
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speaking native language
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I mean, you've been working
in this hospital
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for the last six years.
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You've seen
the numbers increasing.
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Do you really believe that
this new Taliban government
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can reduce
the numbers of addicts
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and reduce the amount of drugs
that are being produced here?
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speaking native language
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You really think
that's gonna happen?
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I mean, the economy
is dependent to a point
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on drugs.
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speaking native language
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speaking native language
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[Isobel] Have you had
any kind of treatment before?
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have you been here before?
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speaking native language
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Do you think
that when you leave
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this place again af--
in 45 days' time,
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that you'll head
straight to the bridge again?
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speaking native language
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[Ahmad]
speaking native language
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[Isobel]
Shortly after filming,
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Dr. Sultani was fired from
his long-standing position
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and fled the country.
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The Taliban are now
in full control of the clinic,
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where Sultani claims
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the Taliban are physically
abusing the addicts,
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and where they now lack
the knowledge
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of trained professionals.
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With the country's economy
in freefall,
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more and more Afghans
are hitting rock bottom.
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And many more will see
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their loved ones succumb
to addiction.
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While the international
community have largely turned
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their back on Afghanistan,
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our global drug markets
are closely connected.
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As the source of 80%
of the world's opiates,
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Afghanistan's current crisis
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may well come back
to haunt us.
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dramatic music
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This is, uh, our entrance
to the north building.
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[Vegas] Okay.
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[Charmaine]
These are holding cells...
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-[Vegas] Right.
-[Charmaine] And we're gonna go
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through here.
This is our intake area.
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Anybody that's arrested
in Hamilton County,
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they come here.
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-They all come through here.
-To intake.
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[Vegas] Charmaine McGuffey
is the sheriff
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of Hamilton County, Ohio.
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In 2016,
she was a major in the jail
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when she witnessed an incident
on closed-circuit camera.
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Is this the cell
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-where the incident happened?
-[Charmaine] This is it.
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This is the cell.
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It was reported to me
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that this guy had tripped
and fell--
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-and fell into the cell.
-That was what they said?
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-He tripped here...
-Yeah.
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-And then just sort of--
-They said he tripped and fell,
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hit his head, and you know,
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something about that
just didn't sound right to me.
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So I came in extra early
Monday morning,
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and as soon as I saw it,
I absolutely knew.
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I thought, "Oh, my God."
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The officer grabbed him up.
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This man was elderly.
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And when the officer reached
this point,
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the officer simply threw him
in this cell.
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So he was thrown
into this wall here?
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-Yes.
-Headfirst?
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That's right, yes.
Headfirst.
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And he was bleeding profusely.
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Took 16 staples
to close his head.
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[Vegas] She reported
what she saw to the sheriff
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but said
nothing immediately happened
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to the officer in question.
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The idea of officers
protecting each other
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from reports of misconduct
is known
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as the blue wall of silence.
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-[protester] Say his name!
-[all] George Floyd.
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-Say his name!
-[all] George Floyd.
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[Vegas]
The blue wall of silence
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was put under scrutiny
after the murder
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of George Floyd in 2020.
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The officers at the scene
did not pull
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Derek Chauvin off of Floyd
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and argued earlier this year
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that they were not properly
trained to intervene.
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[Vegas] Since his death,
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more cases have been
publicized,
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showing the uglier side
of some police cultures.
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Another case in Florida caught
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national attention this year
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when a sergeant was seen
on video
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choking a fellow officer
after she pulled him away
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from a suspect
he was threatening.
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[officer] Everybody turn off
their [bleep] cameras.
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[Vegas] A recent USA Today
investigation found
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more than 300 examples
in the last decade
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of police whistleblowers
who experienced backlash
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for speaking out
against misconduct.
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You know, I saw
that officer kneeling
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on George Floyd's neck,
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and I saw those brand-new
young officers there trying
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to deal with the situation,
I thought,
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"I know exactly why
they didn't intervene."
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And that's a shame.
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And I feel for them, I do.
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What does this look like to be
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a whistleblower
in law enforcement?
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Well, they did come for me,
you know?
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And they did it in such a way
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that I wouldn't see
them coming.
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I didn't even get told
that I was under investigation.
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-Because I--
-You were retaliated against
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-for...
-Oh.
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[Vegas] Basically blowing
the whistles--
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Absolutely.
And I guarantee you,
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there's a lot of men and women
out there that can relate
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to exactly what I went through.
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[Vegas]
McGuffey was investigated
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by Internal Affairs
for allegedly creating
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a hostile work environment.
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After the investigation,
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she was offered a demotion.
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She didn't accept it
and was fired in 2017.
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She then sued the department,
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arguing that
she was retaliated against
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for reporting officer abuse
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and discriminated against
for being gay.
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In 2020, she reached
a settlement with the county.
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And a U.S. district judge
found that the investigation
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into McGuffey may have
been intended to justify
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her demotion.
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The county did not admit
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to the wrong-doing alleged
in the lawsuit.
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That year, she ran
against her former boss
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and became sheriff.
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[Charmaine]
We do train camaraderie.
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You have to have it.
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But it cuts both ways,
because you can have people
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who can say, "Hey,
if you do something wrong,
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I'm gonna say I didn't see it."
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What's happened recently
in the media
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with use of force,
it's not gonna go away.
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We're gonna step up
into an arena now
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where the game has changed.
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[indistinct yelling]
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[Vegas] Police use of force has
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a long, contentious history
in the U.S.
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[all] No justice, no peace.
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[Vegas] More people,
especially Black men,
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die from interaction
with cops in the U.S.
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than in any other
Western country.
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And the numbers haven't
gone down
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since George Floyd's death.
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Since then,
some officers are now trying
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to dismantle
the blue wall of silence.
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But Daniel Hills,
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president of the Cincinnati
police union, argues
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that it's the cops themselves
who are under fire.
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One of the things
that's fundamental
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is trust
between police officers.
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You need to know
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that your fellow officer
has your back, right?
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But is there a dynamic there
that makes it more difficult
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to report any police misconduct
among law enforcement?
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So is this
that "blue wall" bullshit?
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-[chuckles]
-Yes, this is
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the blue wall bullshit.
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It's bullshit.
It's absolute crap.
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Police officers are not
going to put up
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with somebody that's
abusing somebody's rights,
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abusing somebody physically,
or anything like that.
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There is no
"blue wall of silence"
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or anything like that.
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The argument of the officers
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who were there
with Derek Chauvin that day
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was that they didn't know
how to step in.
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Is that something that can be--
that can be taught
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or that needs to be taught?
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When you're looking
at that situation--
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that situation was so--
so much of an outlier,
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that I don't think
it would ever happen
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in Cincinnati
or most other agencies.
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George Floyd wasn't
the only instance
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-of police brutality--
-Do you understand,
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because we are filming
everything...
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-Mm-hmm.
-You have a handful
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of the worst things that happen
with police officers
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that get shown over,
and over, and over again.
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-[Vegas] Yeah.
-And every piece of media
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is out there waiting--
they can't wait to grab
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that one where police officers
fuck up.
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-Yeah.
-It's the police industry
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that seems to be
the most targeted.
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[Vegas] Policing gets
a lot of media focus.
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But it's different
from other professions
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in that a so-called fuck up
can look like
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what happened
to Breonna Taylor
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or Philando Castille.
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Disturbing new details
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from the night
Louisville police
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shot and killed
Breonna Taylor.
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[reporter] Police targeted
the home erroneously,
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believing that it was being
used by a drug dealer
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to receive packages.
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No matter how much
you train folks,
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are you going to have
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a handful of things
that are terrible?
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Do you think that's something
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that we need to look at
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or is training in this country
okay the way it is?
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Training is everything,
whether you're talking
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about knowing
how to speak to people
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or knowing how to tactically
approach a situation.
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Some people would think
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that if you get
a lot of firearms training,
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that you're more likely
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-to use your weapon.
-Yeah.
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[Daniel]
That's the exact opposite.
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The more firearms training
you have,
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the less likely you are
to have to use your weapon.
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It's more likely
to buy you time
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to find a different way
to resolve the situation.
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[Vegas] Academy training
for American cops is
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21 weeks on average,
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compared to three years
in some European countries.
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The biggest chunk of time
is spent on firearms skills,
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with 73 hours on average,
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and 61 hours
on defense tactics.
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There are also around
18,000 individual departments
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who all have their own way
of training.
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We're in St. Louis
at the ILEETA conference,
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which is the largest conference
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for law enforcement trainers
and instructors in the world.
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But this year's conference
was different,
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with the demonstrations
of 2020
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hanging over the entire event.
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[Jason] Folks, there's
a problem in policing.
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We've isolated ourselves
from the people
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in which we're supposed to be
helping.
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We, as a culture, have to take
some of the blame.
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[Vegas] Jason Mazeski is
a researcher
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at Columbia University
who was a training instructor
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with the NYPD,
and led design
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for the counter-terrorism
unit's curriculum.
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His course at ILEETA
was focused
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on what people expect
of police today.
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[Jason] How do we describe
the role of police?
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[person] The role of the police
is to protect the community
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from people that will harm it.
Am I wrong?
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[Jason] Well, I think
that's your--
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-that's your perspective.
-[person chuckles]
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Assumptions is how we operate.
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Where do these assumptions
come from?
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[person] From our training.
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We have to,
in order to stay alive,
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assume that everybody's
gonna hurt me
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until they prove different.
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Law enforcement's
a para-militaristic system,
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00:22:01,445 --> 00:22:03,822
so we look to the military
for our training.
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We're looking to create
a behavior--
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a certain behavior
in the people
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that come
through the police department.
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You're looking to mold them
into one particular thing.
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-[Jason] Exactly.
-Okay.
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You could use the term
"indoctrination."
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You bring a recruit in.
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The recruit learns
the necessary requirements.
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And then they leave
as a police officer.
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This is self-defense,
shooting, tactical ops--
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Uh, recruits are used to going
into scenario-based training.
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And all the scenario-based
training ends
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in the use of force.
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[trainer] I would like to say
that we live in a world
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where we would never have
to strike an individual again.
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I'm sorry, folks, that is
just not the way it is.
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Give me your arm.
Give me your arm!
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For years, we've added
additional variables
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to a police officer's job.
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You know,
he's a traffic enforcer,
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he's a domestic violence
expert.
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He's a soldier as well.
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[Jason] Exactly.
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I think our training
has to mirror
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what we want policing
to look like.
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[Vegas] And to accomplish that,
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many departments are trying
to counterbalance
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how much use of force
dominates training.
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More than 240 agencies
have adopted a new program
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that was developed
at Georgetown University
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after George Floyd's death.
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[trainer] I was trained
to be a warrior.
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Policing's a very
para-military organization.
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And we trained
that way for years.
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I want to change our mindset
from warrior to guardian.
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[Vegas] ABLE, which stands
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for Active Bystandership
for Law Enforcement,
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aims to address
the blue wall of silence
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within training
by teaching cops
509
00:23:34,454 --> 00:23:36,706
that intervening
in cases of misconduct
510
00:23:36,748 --> 00:23:39,126
is actually
in their best interest.
511
00:23:39,167 --> 00:23:41,795
The NYPD, Philadelphia
police department,
512
00:23:41,837 --> 00:23:43,880
and Charmaine McGuffey's
department in Hamilton county
513
00:23:43,922 --> 00:23:45,549
are now using ABLE.
514
00:23:45,590 --> 00:23:47,759
The only way
that we're gonna come
515
00:23:47,801 --> 00:23:50,929
out of this national crisis
516
00:23:50,971 --> 00:23:54,057
of negativity with the police
517
00:23:54,099 --> 00:23:57,769
is for us to step up
and step in.
518
00:23:57,811 --> 00:24:01,273
This is absolutely
a culture-change program.
519
00:24:01,314 --> 00:24:04,734
I want us to redefine loyalty
a little bit.
520
00:24:04,776 --> 00:24:05,986
How about the integrity
to tell someone
521
00:24:06,027 --> 00:24:07,112
what they need to hear
522
00:24:07,154 --> 00:24:08,738
instead of what they want
to hear?
523
00:24:08,780 --> 00:24:12,784
When I was FTO,
if I correct my partner,
524
00:24:12,826 --> 00:24:14,286
he gets upset.
525
00:24:14,327 --> 00:24:15,871
He don't want to be corrected.
526
00:24:15,912 --> 00:24:17,038
[trainer] Wait a minute,
what are we loyal to?
527
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,373
At a drop of a hat,
you'll go
528
00:24:18,415 --> 00:24:20,125
right into gunfire
with somebody,
529
00:24:20,167 --> 00:24:21,626
but you won't turn and have
a conversation with them
530
00:24:21,668 --> 00:24:23,879
when they're about to make
a mistake?
531
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,797
So now we're gonna get
into some nuts and bolts here.
532
00:24:25,839 --> 00:24:28,341
When and how do I intervene?
533
00:24:28,592 --> 00:24:31,052
[indistinct shouting]
534
00:24:31,094 --> 00:24:33,638
This was in the wake
of George Floyd.
535
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,265
What'd you guys notice there?
536
00:24:35,307 --> 00:24:36,558
[officer]
Yeah, the other officer,
537
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,477
he grabbed
the guy's knee first
538
00:24:38,518 --> 00:24:39,769
and pulled it up
off his neck.
539
00:24:39,811 --> 00:24:40,937
He had it on his neck
540
00:24:40,979 --> 00:24:42,230
and the other officer
moved it.
541
00:24:42,272 --> 00:24:43,857
[trainer] His partner
just moved the leg.
542
00:24:43,899 --> 00:24:46,443
They probably never had
a conversation about it again.
543
00:24:46,485 --> 00:24:47,986
[officer] Probably not.
544
00:24:48,028 --> 00:24:49,488
[trainer] And there wasn't
a single story to tell,
545
00:24:49,529 --> 00:24:50,697
was there?
546
00:24:50,739 --> 00:24:52,782
[Vegas] The vibe I got
when we started,
547
00:24:52,824 --> 00:24:54,326
there was a lot
of this stuff, right?
548
00:24:54,367 --> 00:24:56,536
You didn't seem--
you didn't seem super into it.
549
00:24:56,578 --> 00:24:58,788
I'd say, yeah, absolutely.
550
00:24:58,830 --> 00:25:00,332
[Vegas] Why?
551
00:25:00,373 --> 00:25:02,501
Uh, just--I don't know,
I just heard some stories
552
00:25:02,542 --> 00:25:05,670
about this training
and it was just a bunch of BS.
553
00:25:05,712 --> 00:25:07,714
Is it still BS?
554
00:25:07,756 --> 00:25:09,549
No, I don't.
I think, honestly--
555
00:25:09,591 --> 00:25:11,343
uh, I think it is something
556
00:25:11,384 --> 00:25:13,220
that kind of opened my eyes up.
557
00:25:13,261 --> 00:25:15,847
Back when a lot of us started,
it used to be more hands-on.
558
00:25:15,889 --> 00:25:17,349
Used to be more hands-on.
559
00:25:17,390 --> 00:25:19,142
Yeah, where, you know,
you hit somebody like that,
560
00:25:19,184 --> 00:25:22,103
you snatch him up and,
you know.
561
00:25:22,145 --> 00:25:23,813
For a long time,
we've only done
562
00:25:23,855 --> 00:25:27,817
the bare minimum to maintain
our certifications.
563
00:25:27,859 --> 00:25:30,028
Because the first--
as soon as budget goes bad,
564
00:25:30,070 --> 00:25:31,696
-first thing to go...
-Cut the training.
565
00:25:31,738 --> 00:25:33,782
[trainer] Is training.
Mm-hmm.
566
00:25:33,823 --> 00:25:36,535
-This'll be gone.
-Hmm.
567
00:25:36,576 --> 00:25:38,370
[Vegas] ABLE doesn't have
concrete metrics
568
00:25:38,411 --> 00:25:41,039
on whether it's working.
And for now,
569
00:25:41,081 --> 00:25:43,375
the police training model
hasn't changed.
570
00:25:43,416 --> 00:25:45,460
But some small steps
are being taken
571
00:25:45,502 --> 00:25:47,003
to make intervention a part
572
00:25:47,045 --> 00:25:49,881
of what it means
to be a police officer.
573
00:25:50,632 --> 00:25:54,386
[Charmaine] Law enforcement
is not an exact science.
574
00:25:54,427 --> 00:25:57,514
We're dealing with
human element, human nature.
575
00:25:57,556 --> 00:26:01,017
And when we deal
in those kinds of areas,
576
00:26:01,059 --> 00:26:02,769
sometimes there can be gray.
577
00:26:02,811 --> 00:26:06,523
But what we're asking
officers to do is
578
00:26:06,565 --> 00:26:09,484
take a stand
on things that you see
579
00:26:09,526 --> 00:26:11,820
that you think are wrong.
580
00:26:11,861 --> 00:26:14,155
It's been a hard culture
to change.
581
00:26:14,197 --> 00:26:17,158
And, you know,
the blue wall of silence
582
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,744
is tolerated from the top.
583
00:26:19,786 --> 00:26:22,038
When you are the boss,
584
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,083
you are the person
who determines
585
00:26:25,125 --> 00:26:28,378
how well officers are treated
who come forward.
586
00:26:28,420 --> 00:26:32,591
Police agencies have been put
on notice
587
00:26:32,632 --> 00:26:36,761
that we need to start
paying attention.
588
00:26:36,803 --> 00:26:39,764
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