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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,046 --> 00:00:07,841 [Isobel]   In Afghanistan,               the U.S. spent billions 2 00:00:07,882 --> 00:00:10,802 trying to eradicate                 the illegal drug trade. 3 00:00:10,844 --> 00:00:12,303 The Taliban say                 they're gonna crack down 4 00:00:12,345 --> 00:00:13,680 on the drug trade. 5 00:00:14,097 --> 00:00:18,351 [person]                       speaking native language 6 00:00:18,393 --> 00:00:19,561 [Isobel]   The country                     at the moment is 7 00:00:19,602 --> 00:00:21,187 in an economic crisis. 8 00:00:21,229 --> 00:00:22,522 Do you feel angry 9 00:00:22,564 --> 00:00:24,357 at the international                       community? 10 00:00:24,399 --> 00:00:25,525 Do you feel                  like you've been abandoned? 11 00:00:25,567 --> 00:00:26,901 [all praying] 12 00:00:26,943 --> 00:00:28,236 dramatic music 13 00:00:28,278 --> 00:00:29,696 [Vegas]   Police use of force has 14 00:00:29,738 --> 00:00:31,740 a long, contentious history                   in the U.S. 15 00:00:31,781 --> 00:00:33,700 Is there a dynamic                 that makes it difficult 16 00:00:33,742 --> 00:00:35,869 to report police misconduct? 17 00:00:35,910 --> 00:00:37,912 It is bullshit.                    It's absolute crap. 18 00:00:37,954 --> 00:00:39,080 [trainer] Give me your arm. 19 00:00:39,122 --> 00:00:40,874 [officer] If I correct                     my partner, 20 00:00:40,915 --> 00:00:42,167 he gets upset. 21 00:00:42,208 --> 00:00:43,668 [Charmaine]                     The blue wall of silence 22 00:00:43,710 --> 00:00:46,253 is tolerated from the top. 23 00:00:46,296 --> 00:00:49,049 Step up and step in. 24 00:00:50,508 --> 00:00:53,595 dramatic music 25 00:01:09,527 --> 00:01:12,405 tense music 26 00:01:16,951 --> 00:01:20,080 [siren wailing] 27 00:01:23,083 --> 00:01:24,584 [Isobel] We're with a team          right now that's heading out 28 00:01:24,626 --> 00:01:28,046 on a night raid with             the Taliban security forces. 29 00:01:28,088 --> 00:01:30,215 We're heading to an area                   that is known 30 00:01:30,256 --> 00:01:32,425 to have a lot of drug addicts. 31 00:01:32,467 --> 00:01:35,261 What they're planning to do is         to forcibly round them up 32 00:01:35,303 --> 00:01:38,639 and take them to a hospital                  for treatment. 33 00:01:39,681 --> 00:01:40,975 It's a lot of Taliban                 securing this area. 34 00:01:42,685 --> 00:01:44,062 This is a big operation. 35 00:01:44,104 --> 00:01:45,271 You got a lot of men.               You got a lot of guns. 36 00:01:45,313 --> 00:01:48,149 [soldier]                      speaking native language 37 00:01:51,820 --> 00:01:53,947 [Isobel]   Dr. Ahmad Zahir                    Sultani works 38 00:01:53,988 --> 00:01:56,950 with the Taliban to round up            hundreds of drug addicts 39 00:01:56,991 --> 00:01:59,494 scattered across Kabul. 40 00:01:59,536 --> 00:02:02,412 He runs the largest              drug rehab center in the city, 41 00:02:02,455 --> 00:02:04,374 but he's fighting                     an uphill battle. 42 00:02:04,415 --> 00:02:06,334 Oh, wow, there's                 so many people down here. 43 00:02:06,835 --> 00:02:08,920 [Ahmad]                       speaking native language 44 00:02:08,962 --> 00:02:11,089 [addict]                       speaking native language 45 00:02:11,131 --> 00:02:13,967 [Ahmad]                       speaking native language 46 00:02:18,012 --> 00:02:19,472 [Isobel] They're using              heroin and meth together? 47 00:02:26,813 --> 00:02:28,273 [Isobel] What are you smoking? 48 00:02:28,314 --> 00:02:30,441 [addict]                       speaking native language 49 00:02:30,483 --> 00:02:33,027 -[Isobel] Heroin?                 -speaking native language 50 00:02:33,069 --> 00:02:35,363 [both]                        speaking native language 51 00:02:37,740 --> 00:02:40,451 [Isobel] He's an old patient? 52 00:02:40,493 --> 00:02:42,162 [Isobel] Oh, wow.                  And he's using again? 53 00:02:43,079 --> 00:02:44,831 [Isobel] He's relapsed. 54 00:02:44,873 --> 00:02:47,458 No, how many people have           already come to your clinic? 55 00:02:47,500 --> 00:02:49,169 speaking native language 56 00:02:53,923 --> 00:02:56,217 [soldier]                      speaking native language 57 00:02:56,259 --> 00:02:59,470 speaking native language 58 00:03:03,224 --> 00:03:05,977 -   speaking native language           -[Isobel] Whoa, whoa, whoa. 59 00:03:09,814 --> 00:03:11,691 You can hear                   the Taliban going around 60 00:03:11,733 --> 00:03:13,443 beating people, kicking them,            tying their hands up, 61 00:03:13,484 --> 00:03:15,028 and getting them on the bus. 62 00:03:16,487 --> 00:03:20,283 [all]   speaking native language 63 00:03:29,250 --> 00:03:30,710 [Isobel]   These users                     have a seemingly 64 00:03:30,752 --> 00:03:33,463 endless supply                      of illicit drugs. 65 00:03:33,963 --> 00:03:36,549 For decades,               U.S. and NATO forces spent 66 00:03:36,591 --> 00:03:38,051 billions of dollars 67 00:03:38,092 --> 00:03:40,762 trying to eradicate opium                  in Afghanistan. 68 00:03:40,803 --> 00:03:43,348 Nothing worked. 69 00:03:43,389 --> 00:03:45,892 Instead,                       production has boomed. 70 00:03:45,934 --> 00:03:50,230 In 2021, 438,000 acres               of poppies were planted, 71 00:03:50,271 --> 00:03:52,065 yielding enough opium                       to produce 72 00:03:52,106 --> 00:03:56,569 up to 650 tons of heroin                  sold worldwide. 73 00:03:56,611 --> 00:03:58,071 Throughout their insurgency, 74 00:03:58,112 --> 00:03:59,697 the Taliban harnessed                      this trade 75 00:03:59,739 --> 00:04:02,492 to finance their rise             and eventual return to power. 76 00:04:02,533 --> 00:04:04,827 [both]                        speaking native language 77 00:04:04,869 --> 00:04:07,538 [Isobel]   Now almost a year              after the Taliban seized 78 00:04:07,580 --> 00:04:09,165 control of the country, 79 00:04:09,207 --> 00:04:11,751 they're eager to launder                  their reputation 80 00:04:11,793 --> 00:04:14,504 and have recently banned              the drug trade outright. 81 00:04:14,545 --> 00:04:16,256 Addicts are increasingly                     being sent 82 00:04:16,297 --> 00:04:19,842 to rehabilitation centers,                or worse, prison. 83 00:04:19,884 --> 00:04:21,427 [indistinct chatter] 84 00:04:21,469 --> 00:04:24,389 percussive music 85 00:04:28,810 --> 00:04:29,894 [Isobel] So we're just heading 86 00:04:29,936 --> 00:04:31,271 towards Helmand Province                    right now. 87 00:04:31,312 --> 00:04:33,523 This is where the majority 88 00:04:33,564 --> 00:04:36,025 of Afghanistan's opium                      is grown. 89 00:04:36,067 --> 00:04:37,944 And it's causing major issues              for the population. 90 00:04:40,446 --> 00:04:43,366 [vendor]                       speaking native language 91 00:04:46,202 --> 00:04:48,454 So this looks like a pretty            standard Afghan market. 92 00:04:48,496 --> 00:04:50,581 You got bars of soap.            You got a lot of vegetables. 93 00:04:50,623 --> 00:04:53,835 You got a lot                  of livestock being sold. 94 00:04:53,876 --> 00:04:55,128 And then here                  on the side of the road, 95 00:04:55,169 --> 00:04:57,171 you got bags and bags                    full of opium 96 00:04:57,213 --> 00:04:59,132 just being sold                     out in the open. 97 00:04:59,173 --> 00:05:01,175 [vendor]                       speaking native language 98 00:05:01,217 --> 00:05:02,510 [Isobel]                   What is this you're selling? 99 00:05:02,552 --> 00:05:04,721 speaking native language 100 00:05:04,762 --> 00:05:06,472 Can I have a look inside? 101 00:05:06,514 --> 00:05:09,058 speaking native language                   [chuckles] 102 00:05:09,100 --> 00:05:10,601 [Isobel]                    How much is this bag worth? 103 00:05:10,643 --> 00:05:13,438 speaking native language 104 00:05:13,479 --> 00:05:15,064 [Isobel] Who is it                 that's buying all this? 105 00:05:15,106 --> 00:05:17,984 [vendor]                       speaking native language 106 00:05:18,026 --> 00:05:20,653 The Taliban say they're gonna        crack down on the drug trade. 107 00:05:20,695 --> 00:05:22,822 Have you experienced that                     at all? 108 00:05:22,864 --> 00:05:25,533 speaking native language 109 00:05:38,338 --> 00:05:40,256 The economy is                    very, very difficult 110 00:05:40,298 --> 00:05:42,133 right now in Afghanistan. 111 00:05:42,175 --> 00:05:44,677 Are more people selling opium              because of that? 112 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,848 speaking native language 113 00:06:05,031 --> 00:06:07,283 [Isobel]   Before the Taliban           returned to power last year, 114 00:06:07,325 --> 00:06:11,496 foreign aid made up 45%                of Afghanistan's GDP. 115 00:06:11,537 --> 00:06:13,456 Those funds have largely                     vanished, 116 00:06:13,498 --> 00:06:15,333 while sanctions                      against the regime 117 00:06:15,375 --> 00:06:17,293 for their human rights record                   have left 118 00:06:17,335 --> 00:06:19,337 the country's banking sector                    crippled 119 00:06:19,379 --> 00:06:21,214 and frozen billions                    of dollars' worth 120 00:06:21,254 --> 00:06:22,924 of Afghanistan's                       assets abroad. 121 00:06:25,593 --> 00:06:27,011 Left with few options, 122 00:06:27,052 --> 00:06:29,347 farmers continue to sell                    their opium, 123 00:06:29,389 --> 00:06:32,058 the deadly precursor                       to heroin. 124 00:06:34,602 --> 00:06:38,231 soft music 125 00:06:38,272 --> 00:06:39,565 [Isobel]                      So what are you doing? 126 00:06:39,607 --> 00:06:41,901 [farmer]                       speaking native language 127 00:06:47,073 --> 00:06:48,741 [Isobel] How can you tell            that this is good or not? 128 00:06:48,783 --> 00:06:51,619 [farmer]                       speaking native language 129 00:06:58,126 --> 00:06:59,419 And what's it                   supposed to smell like? 130 00:06:59,460 --> 00:07:01,337 'Cause it smells very strong. 131 00:07:01,379 --> 00:07:03,589 [farmer]                       speaking native language 132 00:07:06,217 --> 00:07:08,427 Is that what you use                  to treat your flu? 133 00:07:08,469 --> 00:07:11,305 speaking native language 134 00:07:11,347 --> 00:07:12,765 [Isobel]                    So is this ready to use now 135 00:07:12,807 --> 00:07:14,350 or does it now get turned              into something else? 136 00:07:14,392 --> 00:07:17,270 [farmer]                       speaking native language 137 00:07:21,649 --> 00:07:22,817 [Isobel]                      Over the last 20 years, 138 00:07:22,859 --> 00:07:25,236 the Taliban have been                   in insurgency. 139 00:07:25,278 --> 00:07:29,782 How much has the opium trade          helped the Taliban survive? 140 00:07:29,824 --> 00:07:32,452 [farmer]                       speaking native language 141 00:07:42,503 --> 00:07:44,130 [Isobel]   The Taliban now say 142 00:07:44,172 --> 00:07:47,258 that growing and processing               opium is un-Islamic. 143 00:07:47,300 --> 00:07:49,302 But their recent crackdown             on the trade could have 144 00:07:49,343 --> 00:07:52,805 real impact on a desperately              struggling economy. 145 00:07:52,847 --> 00:07:57,393 In 2021, opiates accounted            for $1.8 to $2.7 billion, 146 00:07:57,435 --> 00:08:00,396 according to the UN's office              on drugs and crime. 147 00:08:00,980 --> 00:08:03,106 More than half the population                  doesn't have 148 00:08:03,149 --> 00:08:04,649 enough food to eat, 149 00:08:04,692 --> 00:08:07,069 with an estimated                   three million children 150 00:08:07,110 --> 00:08:09,572 at risk                       of severe malnutrition. 151 00:08:09,614 --> 00:08:11,949 Health clinics are overflowing 152 00:08:11,990 --> 00:08:14,368 as mothers struggle to find              the basic necessities 153 00:08:14,410 --> 00:08:15,870 to keep their children alive. 154 00:08:15,912 --> 00:08:18,664 -[baby screaming]                  -[indistinct chatter] 155 00:08:19,916 --> 00:08:23,669 uneasy music 156 00:08:23,711 --> 00:08:25,755 The situation                  inside the country's capital 157 00:08:25,796 --> 00:08:27,173 is no different. 158 00:08:27,215 --> 00:08:28,883 At this food distribution site 159 00:08:28,925 --> 00:08:30,760 run by the World Food Program, 160 00:08:30,801 --> 00:08:33,054 Afghans looking                     for something to eat 161 00:08:33,095 --> 00:08:36,098 find themselves at odds             with armed Taliban fighters. 162 00:08:36,140 --> 00:08:38,100 This is really, really                    hectic here. 163 00:08:38,142 --> 00:08:41,938 There's a huge, huge line          of people waiting to get aid. 164 00:08:41,979 --> 00:08:45,858 And then the Taliban soldiers           are guarding the gates 165 00:08:45,900 --> 00:08:48,611 to make sure that               not too many people get in. 166 00:08:48,653 --> 00:08:51,197 But people are really,           really desperate for food here. 167 00:08:51,239 --> 00:08:54,033 [all]   speaking native language 168 00:08:54,075 --> 00:08:55,535 [Isobel] The reality              on the ground at the moment 169 00:08:55,576 --> 00:08:57,495 is that any aid groups                    working here 170 00:08:57,537 --> 00:09:00,206 are gonna have to cooperate               with the Taliban. 171 00:09:00,248 --> 00:09:01,832 What did you guys come here                  for today? 172 00:09:01,874 --> 00:09:04,794 speaking native language 173 00:09:08,673 --> 00:09:12,343 speaking native language 174 00:09:22,186 --> 00:09:23,354 [Isobel]                          Do you feel angry 175 00:09:23,396 --> 00:09:24,814 at the international                       community? 176 00:09:24,855 --> 00:09:26,274 Do you feel                   like you've been abandoned? 177 00:09:26,315 --> 00:09:29,068 speaking native language 178 00:09:37,743 --> 00:09:39,245 [Isobel]                    This level of poverty makes it 179 00:09:39,287 --> 00:09:41,706 nearly impossible               for the country to wean itself 180 00:09:41,747 --> 00:09:43,583 from dependence                     on opium production 181 00:09:43,624 --> 00:09:46,168 as a source of income. 182 00:09:46,210 --> 00:09:49,422 This also exacerbated                 an existing epidemic. 183 00:09:49,463 --> 00:09:51,924 Around 10%                   of Afghanistan's population 184 00:09:51,966 --> 00:09:54,594 struggle with addiction,                according to the UN. 185 00:10:01,976 --> 00:10:03,686 The Avicenna Medical Center                      is one 186 00:10:03,728 --> 00:10:06,439 of the country's few remaining             rehab facilities. 187 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,066 Here hundreds of drug addicts                   settle in 188 00:10:09,108 --> 00:10:11,110 for a 45-day rehabilitation. 189 00:10:11,152 --> 00:10:13,446 [indistinct radio chatter] 190 00:10:13,487 --> 00:10:14,614 -speaking native language           -[Isobel] So these guys are 191 00:10:14,655 --> 00:10:16,198 just coming out of the buses. 192 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:17,658 Some of them are sweating.           Some of them are shivering. 193 00:10:17,700 --> 00:10:20,411 They look like they're                in real, real states. 194 00:10:20,453 --> 00:10:21,621 A lot of them                   are still using drugs. 195 00:10:21,662 --> 00:10:22,955 They're being lined up here. 196 00:10:22,997 --> 00:10:24,498 They say                     they're gonna search them 197 00:10:24,540 --> 00:10:26,125 before stripping them,                 taking them inside, 198 00:10:26,167 --> 00:10:27,960 and cleaning them up. 199 00:10:28,002 --> 00:10:30,838 [soldier]                      speaking native language 200 00:10:32,214 --> 00:10:35,718 [both]   speaking native language 201 00:10:36,886 --> 00:10:39,138 -[Isobel] It's what?                -speaking native language 202 00:10:39,555 --> 00:10:41,766 [Isobel]   The treatment                facilities are basic. 203 00:10:41,807 --> 00:10:45,019 And the path to recovery                    is painful. 204 00:10:45,061 --> 00:10:47,897 Users are stripped down            and forced to go cold turkey. 205 00:10:49,315 --> 00:10:51,150 You got a lot of people round                  in here. 206 00:10:51,192 --> 00:10:52,860 Are you at full capacity? 207 00:10:52,902 --> 00:10:55,821 speaking native language 208 00:11:07,166 --> 00:11:08,417 I mean, you've been working               in this hospital 209 00:11:08,459 --> 00:11:09,919 for the last six years. 210 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,463 You've seen                    the numbers increasing. 211 00:11:12,505 --> 00:11:16,175 Do you really believe that           this new Taliban government 212 00:11:16,217 --> 00:11:19,679 can reduce                     the numbers of addicts 213 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,264 and reduce the amount of drugs        that are being produced here? 214 00:11:22,306 --> 00:11:25,184 speaking native language 215 00:11:39,782 --> 00:11:41,492 You really think                   that's gonna happen? 216 00:11:41,534 --> 00:11:44,829 I mean, the economy                is dependent to a point 217 00:11:44,870 --> 00:11:46,038 on drugs. 218 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,999 speaking native language 219 00:12:04,098 --> 00:12:06,225 speaking native language 220 00:12:06,267 --> 00:12:08,227 [Isobel] Have you had            any kind of treatment before? 221 00:12:08,269 --> 00:12:09,395 have you been here before? 222 00:12:09,437 --> 00:12:12,398 speaking native language 223 00:12:20,281 --> 00:12:22,074 Do you think                      that when you leave 224 00:12:22,116 --> 00:12:24,994 this place again af--                  in 45 days' time, 225 00:12:25,035 --> 00:12:26,579 that you'll head               straight to the bridge again? 226 00:12:26,620 --> 00:12:29,248 speaking native language 227 00:12:50,644 --> 00:12:53,147 [Ahmad]                       speaking native language 228 00:12:55,316 --> 00:12:56,901 [Isobel]                        Shortly after filming, 229 00:12:56,942 --> 00:12:59,945 Dr. Sultani was fired from            his long-standing position 230 00:12:59,987 --> 00:13:02,656 and fled the country. 231 00:13:02,698 --> 00:13:05,284 The Taliban are now              in full control of the clinic, 232 00:13:05,326 --> 00:13:07,036 where Sultani claims 233 00:13:07,077 --> 00:13:09,371 the Taliban are physically               abusing the addicts, 234 00:13:09,413 --> 00:13:11,248 and where they now lack                    the knowledge 235 00:13:11,290 --> 00:13:12,875 of trained professionals. 236 00:13:15,336 --> 00:13:17,254 With the country's economy                   in freefall, 237 00:13:17,296 --> 00:13:19,965 more and more Afghans                are hitting rock bottom. 238 00:13:20,007 --> 00:13:21,592 And many more will see 239 00:13:21,634 --> 00:13:24,553 their loved ones succumb                   to addiction. 240 00:13:24,595 --> 00:13:26,764 While the international            community have largely turned 241 00:13:26,806 --> 00:13:28,474 their back on Afghanistan, 242 00:13:28,516 --> 00:13:31,644 our global drug markets                are closely connected. 243 00:13:31,685 --> 00:13:34,605 As the source of 80%                of the world's opiates, 244 00:13:34,647 --> 00:13:36,482 Afghanistan's current crisis 245 00:13:36,524 --> 00:13:38,526 may well come back                       to haunt us. 246 00:13:40,903 --> 00:13:43,781 dramatic music 247 00:13:56,043 --> 00:13:59,839 This is, uh, our entrance             to the north building. 248 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:01,090 [Vegas] Okay. 249 00:14:01,131 --> 00:14:02,466 [Charmaine]                  These are holding cells... 250 00:14:02,508 --> 00:14:03,843 -[Vegas] Right.              -[Charmaine] And we're gonna go 251 00:14:03,884 --> 00:14:06,178 through here.                  This is our intake area. 252 00:14:06,220 --> 00:14:09,348 Anybody that's arrested                in Hamilton County, 253 00:14:09,390 --> 00:14:10,766 they come here. 254 00:14:10,808 --> 00:14:12,184 -They all come through here.                  -To intake. 255 00:14:12,226 --> 00:14:13,519 [Vegas]   Charmaine McGuffey                   is the sheriff 256 00:14:13,561 --> 00:14:15,855 of Hamilton County, Ohio. 257 00:14:15,896 --> 00:14:18,357 In 2016,                    she was a major in the jail 258 00:14:18,399 --> 00:14:20,526 when she witnessed an incident         on closed-circuit camera. 259 00:14:20,568 --> 00:14:22,152 Is this the cell 260 00:14:22,194 --> 00:14:23,195 -where the incident happened?          -[Charmaine] This is it. 261 00:14:23,237 --> 00:14:24,530 This is the cell. 262 00:14:24,572 --> 00:14:25,698 It was reported to me 263 00:14:25,739 --> 00:14:27,533 that this guy had tripped                   and fell-- 264 00:14:27,575 --> 00:14:29,159 -and fell into the cell.             -That was what they said? 265 00:14:29,201 --> 00:14:30,661 -He tripped here...                        -Yeah. 266 00:14:30,703 --> 00:14:31,704 -And then just sort of--          -They said he tripped and fell, 267 00:14:31,745 --> 00:14:33,330 hit his head, and you know, 268 00:14:33,372 --> 00:14:36,125 something about that            just didn't sound right to me. 269 00:14:36,166 --> 00:14:39,169 So I came in extra early                  Monday morning, 270 00:14:39,211 --> 00:14:41,380 and as soon as I saw it,                I absolutely knew. 271 00:14:41,422 --> 00:14:43,048 I thought, "Oh, my God." 272 00:14:43,090 --> 00:14:45,509 The officer grabbed him up. 273 00:14:45,551 --> 00:14:47,553 This man was elderly. 274 00:14:47,595 --> 00:14:49,555 And when the officer reached                  this point, 275 00:14:49,597 --> 00:14:54,393 the officer simply threw him                 in this cell. 276 00:14:54,435 --> 00:14:56,604 So he was thrown                   into this wall here? 277 00:14:56,645 --> 00:14:57,771 -Yes.                             -Headfirst? 278 00:14:57,813 --> 00:14:59,189 That's right, yes.                       Headfirst. 279 00:14:59,231 --> 00:15:01,525 And he was bleeding profusely. 280 00:15:01,567 --> 00:15:05,029 Took 16 staples                    to close his head. 281 00:15:05,070 --> 00:15:07,114 [Vegas]   She reported               what she saw to the sheriff 282 00:15:07,156 --> 00:15:08,866 but said                    nothing immediately happened 283 00:15:08,908 --> 00:15:11,035 to the officer in question. 284 00:15:11,076 --> 00:15:13,037 The idea of officers                 protecting each other 285 00:15:13,078 --> 00:15:14,997 from reports of misconduct                     is known 286 00:15:15,039 --> 00:15:16,916 as the blue wall of silence. 287 00:15:16,957 --> 00:15:18,918 -[protester] Say his name!              -[all] George Floyd. 288 00:15:18,959 --> 00:15:20,920 -Say his name!                    -[all] George Floyd. 289 00:15:20,961 --> 00:15:22,421 [Vegas]                       The blue wall of silence 290 00:15:22,463 --> 00:15:24,089 was put under scrutiny                   after the murder 291 00:15:24,131 --> 00:15:26,383 of George Floyd in 2020. 292 00:15:26,425 --> 00:15:28,260 The officers at the scene                    did not pull 293 00:15:28,302 --> 00:15:29,845 Derek Chauvin off of Floyd 294 00:15:29,887 --> 00:15:31,680 and argued earlier this year 295 00:15:31,722 --> 00:15:33,933 that they were not properly              trained to intervene. 296 00:15:38,479 --> 00:15:39,939 [Vegas]   Since his death, 297 00:15:39,980 --> 00:15:41,273 more cases have been                      publicized, 298 00:15:41,315 --> 00:15:44,026 showing the uglier side               of some police cultures. 299 00:15:44,068 --> 00:15:45,611 Another case in Florida caught 300 00:15:45,653 --> 00:15:47,112 national attention this year 301 00:15:47,154 --> 00:15:48,697 when a sergeant was seen                      on video 302 00:15:48,739 --> 00:15:51,492 choking a fellow officer             after she pulled him away 303 00:15:51,533 --> 00:15:53,160 from a suspect                     he was threatening. 304 00:15:53,202 --> 00:15:56,080 [officer] Everybody turn off            their [bleep] cameras. 305 00:15:56,121 --> 00:15:58,791 [Vegas]   A recent   USA Today                investigation found 306 00:15:58,832 --> 00:16:01,293 more than 300 examples                  in the last decade 307 00:16:01,335 --> 00:16:04,046 of police whistleblowers              who experienced backlash 308 00:16:04,088 --> 00:16:06,590 for speaking out                    against misconduct. 309 00:16:06,632 --> 00:16:08,092 You know, I saw                   that officer kneeling 310 00:16:08,133 --> 00:16:10,219 on George Floyd's neck, 311 00:16:10,260 --> 00:16:13,263 and I saw those brand-new           young officers there trying 312 00:16:13,305 --> 00:16:17,184 to deal with the situation,                  I thought, 313 00:16:17,226 --> 00:16:19,478 "I know exactly why                they didn't intervene." 314 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,021 And that's a shame. 315 00:16:21,063 --> 00:16:22,356 And I feel for them, I do. 316 00:16:22,398 --> 00:16:23,941 What does this look like to be 317 00:16:23,983 --> 00:16:25,985 a whistleblower                    in law enforcement? 318 00:16:26,026 --> 00:16:29,321 Well, they did come for me,                   you know? 319 00:16:29,363 --> 00:16:30,656 And they did it in such a way 320 00:16:30,698 --> 00:16:32,658 that I wouldn't see                     them coming. 321 00:16:32,700 --> 00:16:35,493 I didn't even get told           that I was under investigation. 322 00:16:35,536 --> 00:16:37,078 -Because I--                 -You were retaliated against 323 00:16:37,121 --> 00:16:38,579 -for...                               -Oh. 324 00:16:38,622 --> 00:16:39,789 [Vegas] Basically blowing                 the whistles-- 325 00:16:39,832 --> 00:16:41,458 Absolutely.                     And I guarantee you, 326 00:16:41,500 --> 00:16:43,419 there's a lot of men and women          out there that can relate 327 00:16:43,460 --> 00:16:45,129 to exactly what I went through. 328 00:16:45,170 --> 00:16:46,797 [Vegas]                      McGuffey was investigated 329 00:16:46,838 --> 00:16:48,841 by Internal Affairs                  for allegedly creating 330 00:16:48,882 --> 00:16:50,843 a hostile work environment. 331 00:16:50,884 --> 00:16:52,428 After the investigation, 332 00:16:52,469 --> 00:16:54,346 she was offered a demotion. 333 00:16:54,387 --> 00:16:57,975 She didn't accept it                 and was fired in 2017. 334 00:16:58,017 --> 00:16:59,852 She then sued the department, 335 00:16:59,893 --> 00:17:01,687 arguing that                   she was retaliated against 336 00:17:01,729 --> 00:17:03,480 for reporting officer abuse 337 00:17:03,522 --> 00:17:06,734 and discriminated against                   for being gay. 338 00:17:06,775 --> 00:17:09,611 In 2020, she reached             a settlement with the county. 339 00:17:09,653 --> 00:17:12,197 And a U.S. district judge            found that the investigation 340 00:17:12,239 --> 00:17:14,366 into McGuffey may have               been intended to justify 341 00:17:14,408 --> 00:17:15,993 her demotion. 342 00:17:16,035 --> 00:17:17,619 The county did not admit 343 00:17:17,661 --> 00:17:19,455 to the wrong-doing alleged                 in the lawsuit. 344 00:17:19,496 --> 00:17:21,874 That year, she ran                 against her former boss 345 00:17:21,915 --> 00:17:24,793 and became sheriff. 346 00:17:24,835 --> 00:17:26,086 [Charmaine]                     We do train camaraderie. 347 00:17:26,128 --> 00:17:27,713 You have to have it. 348 00:17:27,755 --> 00:17:31,175 But it cuts both ways,             because you can have people 349 00:17:31,216 --> 00:17:33,469 who can say, "Hey,               if you do something wrong, 350 00:17:33,510 --> 00:17:35,179 I'm gonna say I didn't see it." 351 00:17:35,220 --> 00:17:38,015 What's happened recently                   in the media 352 00:17:38,057 --> 00:17:41,143 with use of force,                 it's not gonna go away. 353 00:17:41,185 --> 00:17:44,396 We're gonna step up                   into an arena now 354 00:17:44,438 --> 00:17:46,982 where the game has changed. 355 00:17:47,024 --> 00:17:50,069 [indistinct yelling] 356 00:17:50,110 --> 00:17:51,528 [Vegas]   Police use of force has 357 00:17:51,570 --> 00:17:52,905 a long, contentious history                   in the U.S. 358 00:17:52,946 --> 00:17:54,907 [all] No justice, no peace. 359 00:17:54,948 --> 00:17:56,575 [Vegas]   More people,                  especially Black men, 360 00:17:56,617 --> 00:17:59,036 die from interaction                 with cops in the U.S. 361 00:17:59,078 --> 00:18:01,080 than in any other                      Western country. 362 00:18:01,121 --> 00:18:02,498 And the numbers haven't                      gone down 363 00:18:02,539 --> 00:18:04,333 since George Floyd's death. 364 00:18:04,374 --> 00:18:06,752 Since then,                   some officers are now trying 365 00:18:06,794 --> 00:18:09,129 to dismantle                   the blue wall of silence. 366 00:18:09,171 --> 00:18:10,756 But Daniel Hills, 367 00:18:10,798 --> 00:18:13,258 president of the Cincinnati               police union, argues 368 00:18:13,300 --> 00:18:15,511 that it's the cops themselves              who are under fire. 369 00:18:15,552 --> 00:18:17,930 One of the things                    that's fundamental 370 00:18:17,971 --> 00:18:19,723 is trust                     between police officers. 371 00:18:19,765 --> 00:18:21,141 You need to know 372 00:18:21,183 --> 00:18:24,394 that your fellow officer               has your back, right? 373 00:18:24,436 --> 00:18:27,106 But is there a dynamic there         that makes it more difficult 374 00:18:27,147 --> 00:18:32,027 to report any police misconduct         among law enforcement? 375 00:18:32,069 --> 00:18:33,654 So is this                   that "blue wall" bullshit? 376 00:18:33,695 --> 00:18:34,822 -[chuckles]                         -Yes, this is 377 00:18:34,863 --> 00:18:35,989 the blue wall bullshit. 378 00:18:36,031 --> 00:18:38,575 It's bullshit.                     It's absolute crap. 379 00:18:38,617 --> 00:18:40,953 Police officers are not                  going to put up 380 00:18:40,994 --> 00:18:43,455 with somebody that's              abusing somebody's rights, 381 00:18:43,497 --> 00:18:45,874 abusing somebody physically,            or anything like that. 382 00:18:45,916 --> 00:18:47,960 There is no                    "blue wall of silence" 383 00:18:48,001 --> 00:18:49,211 or anything like that. 384 00:18:49,253 --> 00:18:51,380 The argument of the officers 385 00:18:51,421 --> 00:18:53,715 who were there                 with Derek Chauvin that day 386 00:18:53,757 --> 00:18:56,802 was that they didn't know                 how to step in. 387 00:18:56,844 --> 00:18:58,720 Is that something that can be--           that can be taught 388 00:18:58,762 --> 00:18:59,972 or that needs to be taught? 389 00:19:00,013 --> 00:19:01,849 When you're looking                  at that situation-- 390 00:19:01,890 --> 00:19:06,520 that situation was so--              so much of an outlier, 391 00:19:06,562 --> 00:19:08,188 that I don't think                  it would ever happen 392 00:19:08,230 --> 00:19:10,190 in Cincinnati                   or most other agencies. 393 00:19:10,232 --> 00:19:11,942 George Floyd wasn't                   the only instance 394 00:19:11,984 --> 00:19:14,069 -of police brutality--                 -Do you understand, 395 00:19:14,111 --> 00:19:16,071 because we are filming                    everything... 396 00:19:16,113 --> 00:19:17,781 -Mm-hmm.                        -You have a handful 397 00:19:17,823 --> 00:19:21,118 of the worst things that happen          with police officers 398 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,579 that get shown over,               and over, and over again. 399 00:19:23,620 --> 00:19:24,997 -[Vegas] Yeah.                  -And every piece of media 400 00:19:25,038 --> 00:19:26,790 is out there waiting--               they can't wait to grab 401 00:19:26,832 --> 00:19:29,585 that one where police officers                  fuck up. 402 00:19:29,626 --> 00:19:31,753 -Yeah.                      -It's the police industry 403 00:19:31,795 --> 00:19:34,006 that seems to be                    the most targeted. 404 00:19:34,047 --> 00:19:36,091 [Vegas]   Policing gets                 a lot of media focus. 405 00:19:36,133 --> 00:19:37,676 But it's different                  from other professions 406 00:19:37,718 --> 00:19:39,970 in that a so-called fuck up                  can look like 407 00:19:40,012 --> 00:19:41,138 what happened                       to Breonna Taylor 408 00:19:41,180 --> 00:19:42,723 or Philando Castille. 409 00:19:42,764 --> 00:19:44,433 Disturbing new details 410 00:19:44,474 --> 00:19:45,934 from the night                      Louisville police 411 00:19:45,976 --> 00:19:47,519 shot and killed                      Breonna Taylor. 412 00:19:47,561 --> 00:19:50,022 [reporter]   Police targeted               the home erroneously, 413 00:19:50,063 --> 00:19:52,357 believing that it was being              used by a drug dealer 414 00:19:52,399 --> 00:19:53,817 to receive packages. 415 00:19:53,859 --> 00:19:56,361 No matter how much                    you train folks, 416 00:19:56,403 --> 00:19:57,654 are you going to have 417 00:19:57,696 --> 00:20:00,699 a handful of things                  that are terrible? 418 00:20:00,741 --> 00:20:01,867 Do you think that's something 419 00:20:01,909 --> 00:20:03,702 that we need to look at 420 00:20:03,744 --> 00:20:06,538 or is training in this country             okay the way it is? 421 00:20:06,580 --> 00:20:08,999 Training is everything,              whether you're talking 422 00:20:09,041 --> 00:20:11,043 about knowing                   how to speak to people 423 00:20:11,084 --> 00:20:13,879 or knowing how to tactically             approach a situation. 424 00:20:13,921 --> 00:20:15,714 Some people would think 425 00:20:15,756 --> 00:20:17,549 that if you get                a lot of firearms training, 426 00:20:17,591 --> 00:20:19,009 that you're more likely 427 00:20:19,051 --> 00:20:20,385 -to use your weapon.                        -Yeah. 428 00:20:20,427 --> 00:20:22,054 [Daniel]                    That's the exact opposite. 429 00:20:22,095 --> 00:20:24,056 The more firearms training                    you have, 430 00:20:24,097 --> 00:20:26,516 the less likely you are            to have to use your weapon. 431 00:20:26,558 --> 00:20:29,561 It's more likely                      to buy you time 432 00:20:29,603 --> 00:20:32,397 to find a different way             to resolve the situation. 433 00:20:32,439 --> 00:20:34,274 [Vegas]   Academy training                 for American cops is 434 00:20:34,316 --> 00:20:35,943 21 weeks on average, 435 00:20:35,984 --> 00:20:38,779 compared to three years             in some European countries. 436 00:20:38,820 --> 00:20:41,531 The biggest chunk of time            is spent on firearms skills, 437 00:20:41,573 --> 00:20:43,575 with 73 hours on average, 438 00:20:43,617 --> 00:20:46,203 and 61 hours                      on defense tactics. 439 00:20:46,245 --> 00:20:49,581 There are also around             18,000 individual departments 440 00:20:49,623 --> 00:20:52,125 who all have their own way                   of training. 441 00:20:52,167 --> 00:20:54,169 We're in St. Louis                at the ILEETA conference, 442 00:20:54,211 --> 00:20:55,963 which is the largest conference 443 00:20:56,004 --> 00:20:59,675 for law enforcement trainers         and instructors in the world. 444 00:20:59,716 --> 00:21:01,510 But this year's conference                  was different, 445 00:21:01,551 --> 00:21:03,512 with the demonstrations                       of 2020 446 00:21:03,553 --> 00:21:05,597 hanging over the entire event. 447 00:21:05,639 --> 00:21:08,225 [Jason] Folks, there's               a problem in policing. 448 00:21:08,267 --> 00:21:10,352 We've isolated ourselves                  from the people 449 00:21:10,394 --> 00:21:13,563 in which we're supposed to be                  helping. 450 00:21:13,605 --> 00:21:18,527 We, as a culture, have to take             some of the blame. 451 00:21:18,568 --> 00:21:20,779 [Vegas]   Jason Mazeski is                     a researcher 452 00:21:20,821 --> 00:21:22,906 at Columbia University             who was a training instructor 453 00:21:22,948 --> 00:21:25,284 with the NYPD,                        and led design 454 00:21:25,325 --> 00:21:27,119 for the counter-terrorism                 unit's curriculum. 455 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,246 His course at ILEETA                      was focused 456 00:21:29,288 --> 00:21:31,331 on what people expect                    of police today. 457 00:21:31,373 --> 00:21:33,792 [Jason] How do we describe               the role of police? 458 00:21:33,834 --> 00:21:37,754 [person] The role of the police       is to protect the community 459 00:21:37,796 --> 00:21:40,757 from people that will harm it.                 Am I wrong? 460 00:21:40,799 --> 00:21:41,967 [Jason] Well, I think                    that's your-- 461 00:21:42,009 --> 00:21:43,468 -that's your perspective.               -[person chuckles] 462 00:21:43,510 --> 00:21:45,804 Assumptions is how we operate. 463 00:21:45,846 --> 00:21:48,932 Where do these assumptions                   come from? 464 00:21:48,974 --> 00:21:50,434 [person] From our training. 465 00:21:50,475 --> 00:21:53,312 We have to,                    in order to stay alive, 466 00:21:53,353 --> 00:21:56,148 assume that everybody's                   gonna hurt me 467 00:21:56,189 --> 00:21:58,734 until they prove different. 468 00:21:58,775 --> 00:22:01,403 Law enforcement's               a para-militaristic system, 469 00:22:01,445 --> 00:22:03,822 so we look to the military                for our training. 470 00:22:03,864 --> 00:22:05,657 We're looking to create                   a behavior-- 471 00:22:05,699 --> 00:22:07,242 a certain behavior                      in the people 472 00:22:07,284 --> 00:22:09,161 that come                 through the police department. 473 00:22:09,202 --> 00:22:10,996 You're looking to mold them          into one particular thing. 474 00:22:11,038 --> 00:22:12,247 -[Jason] Exactly.                         -Okay. 475 00:22:12,289 --> 00:22:13,582 You could use the term                  "indoctrination." 476 00:22:14,958 --> 00:22:16,585 You bring a recruit in. 477 00:22:16,626 --> 00:22:19,504 The recruit learns               the necessary requirements. 478 00:22:19,546 --> 00:22:21,340 And then they leave                   as a police officer. 479 00:22:21,381 --> 00:22:24,676 This is self-defense,              shooting, tactical ops-- 480 00:22:24,718 --> 00:22:29,014 Uh, recruits are used to going        into scenario-based training. 481 00:22:29,056 --> 00:22:31,308 And all the scenario-based                  training ends 482 00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:33,060 in the use of force. 483 00:22:33,101 --> 00:22:36,313 [trainer]   I would like to say            that we live in a world 484 00:22:36,355 --> 00:22:39,024 where we would never have         to strike an individual again. 485 00:22:39,066 --> 00:22:41,818 I'm sorry, folks, that is             just not the way it is. 486 00:22:41,860 --> 00:22:43,695 Give me your arm.                    Give me your arm! 487 00:22:45,113 --> 00:22:48,825 For years, we've added                additional variables 488 00:22:48,867 --> 00:22:50,911 to a police officer's job. 489 00:22:50,952 --> 00:22:52,371 You know,                    he's a traffic enforcer, 490 00:22:52,412 --> 00:22:54,331 he's a domestic violence                      expert. 491 00:22:54,373 --> 00:22:55,874 He's a soldier as well. 492 00:22:55,916 --> 00:22:57,209 [Jason] Exactly. 493 00:22:57,250 --> 00:22:59,503 I think our training                     has to mirror 494 00:22:59,544 --> 00:23:01,963 what we want policing                    to look like. 495 00:23:02,005 --> 00:23:03,548 [Vegas]   And to accomplish that, 496 00:23:03,590 --> 00:23:05,717 many departments are trying                to counterbalance 497 00:23:05,759 --> 00:23:08,553 how much use of force                  dominates training. 498 00:23:08,595 --> 00:23:11,848 More than 240 agencies              have adopted a new program 499 00:23:11,890 --> 00:23:14,017 that was developed                 at Georgetown University 500 00:23:14,059 --> 00:23:15,644 after George Floyd's death. 501 00:23:15,685 --> 00:23:18,230 [trainer] I was trained                 to be a warrior. 502 00:23:18,271 --> 00:23:20,732 Policing's a very               para-military organization. 503 00:23:20,774 --> 00:23:23,193 And we trained                     that way for years. 504 00:23:23,235 --> 00:23:26,154 I want to change our mindset           from warrior to guardian. 505 00:23:26,196 --> 00:23:27,906 [Vegas]   ABLE, which stands 506 00:23:27,948 --> 00:23:30,075 for Active Bystandership                for Law Enforcement, 507 00:23:30,117 --> 00:23:32,411 aims to address                   the blue wall of silence 508 00:23:32,452 --> 00:23:34,413 within training                       by teaching cops 509 00:23:34,454 --> 00:23:36,706 that intervening                   in cases of misconduct 510 00:23:36,748 --> 00:23:39,126 is actually                     in their best interest. 511 00:23:39,167 --> 00:23:41,795 The NYPD, Philadelphia                  police department, 512 00:23:41,837 --> 00:23:43,880 and Charmaine McGuffey's           department in Hamilton county 513 00:23:43,922 --> 00:23:45,549 are now using ABLE. 514 00:23:45,590 --> 00:23:47,759 The only way                     that we're gonna come 515 00:23:47,801 --> 00:23:50,929 out of this national crisis 516 00:23:50,971 --> 00:23:54,057 of negativity with the police 517 00:23:54,099 --> 00:23:57,769 is for us to step up                     and step in. 518 00:23:57,811 --> 00:24:01,273 This is absolutely                a culture-change program. 519 00:24:01,314 --> 00:24:04,734 I want us to redefine loyalty                a little bit. 520 00:24:04,776 --> 00:24:05,986 How about the integrity                  to tell someone 521 00:24:06,027 --> 00:24:07,112 what they need to hear 522 00:24:07,154 --> 00:24:08,738 instead of what they want                    to hear? 523 00:24:08,780 --> 00:24:12,784 When I was FTO,                 if I correct my partner, 524 00:24:12,826 --> 00:24:14,286 he gets upset. 525 00:24:14,327 --> 00:24:15,871 He don't want to be corrected. 526 00:24:15,912 --> 00:24:17,038 [trainer] Wait a minute,               what are we loyal to? 527 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,373 At a drop of a hat,                       you'll go 528 00:24:18,415 --> 00:24:20,125 right into gunfire                     with somebody, 529 00:24:20,167 --> 00:24:21,626 but you won't turn and have           a conversation with them 530 00:24:21,668 --> 00:24:23,879 when they're about to make                   a mistake? 531 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,797 So now we're gonna get           into some nuts and bolts here. 532 00:24:25,839 --> 00:24:28,341 When and how do I intervene? 533 00:24:28,592 --> 00:24:31,052 [indistinct shouting] 534 00:24:31,094 --> 00:24:33,638 This was in the wake                   of George Floyd. 535 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,265 What'd you guys notice there? 536 00:24:35,307 --> 00:24:36,558 [officer]                      Yeah, the other officer, 537 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,477 he grabbed                       the guy's knee first 538 00:24:38,518 --> 00:24:39,769 and pulled it up                       off his neck. 539 00:24:39,811 --> 00:24:40,937 He had it on his neck 540 00:24:40,979 --> 00:24:42,230 and the other officer                      moved it. 541 00:24:42,272 --> 00:24:43,857 [trainer] His partner                 just moved the leg. 542 00:24:43,899 --> 00:24:46,443 They probably never had          a conversation about it again. 543 00:24:46,485 --> 00:24:47,986 [officer] Probably not. 544 00:24:48,028 --> 00:24:49,488 [trainer] And there wasn't             a single story to tell, 545 00:24:49,529 --> 00:24:50,697 was there? 546 00:24:50,739 --> 00:24:52,782 [Vegas] The vibe I got                  when we started, 547 00:24:52,824 --> 00:24:54,326 there was a lot                   of this stuff, right? 548 00:24:54,367 --> 00:24:56,536 You didn't seem--             you didn't seem super into it. 549 00:24:56,578 --> 00:24:58,788 I'd say, yeah, absolutely. 550 00:24:58,830 --> 00:25:00,332 [Vegas] Why? 551 00:25:00,373 --> 00:25:02,501 Uh, just--I don't know,             I just heard some stories 552 00:25:02,542 --> 00:25:05,670 about this training            and it was just a bunch of BS. 553 00:25:05,712 --> 00:25:07,714 Is it still BS? 554 00:25:07,756 --> 00:25:09,549 No, I don't.                      I think, honestly-- 555 00:25:09,591 --> 00:25:11,343 uh, I think it is something 556 00:25:11,384 --> 00:25:13,220 that kind of opened my eyes up. 557 00:25:13,261 --> 00:25:15,847 Back when a lot of us started,        it used to be more hands-on. 558 00:25:15,889 --> 00:25:17,349 Used to be more hands-on. 559 00:25:17,390 --> 00:25:19,142 Yeah, where, you know,             you hit somebody like that, 560 00:25:19,184 --> 00:25:22,103 you snatch him up and,                      you know. 561 00:25:22,145 --> 00:25:23,813 For a long time,                      we've only done 562 00:25:23,855 --> 00:25:27,817 the bare minimum to maintain              our certifications. 563 00:25:27,859 --> 00:25:30,028 Because the first--              as soon as budget goes bad, 564 00:25:30,070 --> 00:25:31,696 -first thing to go...                 -Cut the training. 565 00:25:31,738 --> 00:25:33,782 [trainer] Is training.                       Mm-hmm. 566 00:25:33,823 --> 00:25:36,535 -This'll be gone.                          -Hmm. 567 00:25:36,576 --> 00:25:38,370 [Vegas]   ABLE doesn't have                  concrete metrics 568 00:25:38,411 --> 00:25:41,039 on whether it's working.                    And for now, 569 00:25:41,081 --> 00:25:43,375 the police training model                  hasn't changed. 570 00:25:43,416 --> 00:25:45,460 But some small steps                    are being taken 571 00:25:45,502 --> 00:25:47,003 to make intervention a part 572 00:25:47,045 --> 00:25:49,881 of what it means                  to be a police officer. 573 00:25:50,632 --> 00:25:54,386 [Charmaine]   Law enforcement             is not an exact science. 574 00:25:54,427 --> 00:25:57,514 We're dealing with               human element, human nature. 575 00:25:57,556 --> 00:26:01,017 And when we deal                 in those kinds of areas, 576 00:26:01,059 --> 00:26:02,769 sometimes there can be gray. 577 00:26:02,811 --> 00:26:06,523 But what we're asking                  officers to do is 578 00:26:06,565 --> 00:26:09,484 take a stand                    on things that you see 579 00:26:09,526 --> 00:26:11,820 that you think are wrong. 580 00:26:11,861 --> 00:26:14,155 It's been a hard culture                     to change. 581 00:26:14,197 --> 00:26:17,158 And, you know,                  the blue wall of silence 582 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,744 is tolerated from the top. 583 00:26:19,786 --> 00:26:22,038 When you are the boss, 584 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,083 you are the person                     who determines 585 00:26:25,125 --> 00:26:28,378 how well officers are treated              who come forward. 586 00:26:28,420 --> 00:26:32,591 Police agencies have been put                   on notice 587 00:26:32,632 --> 00:26:36,761 that we need to start                   paying attention. 588 00:26:36,803 --> 00:26:39,764 dramatic music 58091

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