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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:12,506 --> 00:00:12,716 Mhm. 4 00:00:19,406 --> 00:00:48,686 Okay okay wow. 5 00:01:31,206 --> 00:01:31,386 Yeah. 6 00:01:40,706 --> 00:01:44,766 From space it's hard to see any evidence of mankind 7 00:01:44,766 --> 00:01:45,806 on earth. 8 00:01:46,016 --> 00:01:50,626 All the effects were having on our planet's finite resources 9 00:01:52,806 --> 00:01:57,326 from up here it looks perfect. 10 00:02:01,006 --> 00:02:04,256 It's only when we look more closely that we start 11 00:02:04,256 --> 00:02:06,726 to see some of the results of our consumption. 12 00:02:08,006 --> 00:02:13,326 Thanks particularly the one that's rarely talked about waste. 13 00:03:57,906 --> 00:03:58,116 Mhm. 14 00:04:08,706 --> 00:04:13,536 I've always enjoyed beachcombing and as a child I would 15 00:04:13,536 --> 00:04:15,356 search for sea glass. 16 00:04:15,546 --> 00:04:16,326 It's a wood. 17 00:04:17,306 --> 00:04:20,526 But in the 50 years since then things have changed 18 00:04:21,806 --> 00:04:23,856 The treasure I used to find in the sand has 19 00:04:23,856 --> 00:04:25,126 been replaced by trash. 20 00:04:27,006 --> 00:04:33,886 I want to know why No one knows exactly how 21 00:04:33,886 --> 00:04:35,396 much rubbish we produce. 22 00:04:36,206 --> 00:04:39,186 What we do know Is that the seven billion of 23 00:04:39,186 --> 00:04:42,796 us were making more garbage now any other time in 24 00:04:42,806 --> 00:04:49,026 history but does anyone know what happens to it all 25 00:04:51,106 --> 00:04:56,046 How it's affecting the land the air the seas and 26 00:04:56,386 --> 00:05:08,476 ultimately us historically we've always buried our track but it 27 00:05:08,476 --> 00:05:11,906 seems that now we sometimes don't dig. 28 00:05:11,916 --> 00:05:22,686 We just dump Since 1975 waste from the ancient Lebanese 29 00:05:22,686 --> 00:05:27,106 City of Cider now a suburb of Beirut has been 30 00:05:27,106 --> 00:05:31,796 brought here to an uncontrolled dump on the edge of 31 00:05:31,796 --> 00:05:39,826 the city Over 80 tons of it every day. 32 00:05:42,606 --> 00:05:47,046 What was a sandy beach has been replaced by a 33 00:05:47,056 --> 00:05:59,946 trash mountain Well over 40 m in height as the 34 00:05:59,946 --> 00:06:06,606 rubbish decomposes chemicals leach into the ground While methane. 35 00:06:06,606 --> 00:06:10,406 A pernicious greenhouse gas regularly blows over the city's nearly 36 00:06:10,416 --> 00:06:18,316 200,000 inhabitants and the tumbling trash and liquid runoff flows 37 00:06:18,426 --> 00:06:22,316 directly into the sea affecting the local fishermen and their 38 00:06:22,316 --> 00:06:31,377 livelihood this is not just a local problem because over 39 00:06:31,377 --> 00:06:35,017 there is italy up there is Cyprus. 40 00:06:35,907 --> 00:06:39,997 Syria's next door and north of Syria is the Turkish 41 00:06:40,007 --> 00:06:40,617 coast. 42 00:06:41,007 --> 00:06:45,897 And there have been complaints from all those countries about 43 00:06:45,897 --> 00:06:50,107 the garbage that floats up onto their beaches much of 44 00:06:50,107 --> 00:06:57,237 which comes from this garbage mountain here rubbish pickers arrived 45 00:06:57,237 --> 00:07:00,167 for the day shift looking for ways to sell for 46 00:07:00,167 --> 00:07:02,237 recycling and the putrid mounds. 47 00:07:06,307 --> 00:07:08,277 No one was willing to talk to me about working 48 00:07:08,277 --> 00:07:13,027 here except one a refugee from Palestine. 49 00:07:15,207 --> 00:07:20,147 When you started here 35 years ago this rubbish mountain 50 00:07:20,157 --> 00:07:21,227 didn't exist. 51 00:07:21,707 --> 00:07:22,927 You've seen it grow. 52 00:07:46,807 --> 00:07:49,027 He thought it could have been toxic waste. 53 00:07:51,707 --> 00:07:55,297 Efforts have been made to clean up this dump Including 54 00:07:55,297 --> 00:07:58,077 a $5 million prince. 55 00:07:59,587 --> 00:08:05,947 I struggled to see much result but it's not just 56 00:08:05,947 --> 00:08:08,147 about these extreme situations. 57 00:08:08,157 --> 00:08:12,627 Waste is everywhere at ever increasing levels. 58 00:08:16,007 --> 00:08:17,627 We produce too much waste. 59 00:08:18,207 --> 00:08:20,837 We've become profligate by nature. 60 00:08:20,847 --> 00:08:23,057 We've learned that it's ok to waste. 61 00:08:23,407 --> 00:08:26,337 We don't think about the consequences when we throw stuff 62 00:08:26,337 --> 00:08:26,827 away. 63 00:08:27,807 --> 00:08:31,617 We're seeing an effect on pollution possibly effect on global 64 00:08:31,617 --> 00:08:32,127 warming. 65 00:08:33,507 --> 00:08:35,767 You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know 66 00:08:35,767 --> 00:08:41,677 that you cannot have infinite growth against finite resources every 67 00:08:41,677 --> 00:08:47,397 year we throw away 200 billion plastic bottle 58 billion 68 00:08:47,397 --> 00:08:51,157 disposable cups and billions of plastic bags. 69 00:08:55,907 --> 00:09:48,967 The okay this is appalling mm here in Britain where 70 00:09:48,967 --> 00:09:52,827 I live we have the most landfill sites in europe 71 00:09:54,217 --> 00:09:57,427 80% of the population live within two km of one 72 00:09:57,977 --> 00:10:00,937 And although government policy say they should be used as 73 00:10:00,937 --> 00:10:04,677 the last resort for most waste This one in Yorkshire 74 00:10:04,977 --> 00:10:06,027 is expanding. 75 00:10:13,507 --> 00:10:15,817 There is the Welbeck toxic tip. 76 00:10:16,707 --> 00:10:19,507 If you look slightly to the right you can see 77 00:10:19,507 --> 00:10:23,487 the school that's built just one field away from the 78 00:10:23,487 --> 00:10:24,227 edge of the tip. 79 00:10:24,907 --> 00:10:25,947 In between. 80 00:10:25,947 --> 00:10:28,477 Believe it or not They are now going to place 81 00:10:28,687 --> 00:10:30,917 3000 houses. 82 00:10:31,507 --> 00:10:34,307 So with a school and hospital in the city center 83 00:10:34,567 --> 00:10:38,107 all within that close proximity to one of England's largest 84 00:10:38,117 --> 00:10:43,717 toxic tips standing at an incredible 62 m in height 85 00:10:44,187 --> 00:10:46,797 it looks set to become one of the tallest piles 86 00:10:46,797 --> 00:10:51,327 of trash in the world landfills in europe. 87 00:10:51,907 --> 00:10:54,977 Unlike many other places in the world are controlled and 88 00:10:54,977 --> 00:10:58,067 must be checked regularly to ensure they don't breach their 89 00:10:58,067 --> 00:11:01,137 licenses and permits this one. 90 00:11:01,137 --> 00:11:11,227 However breeches with monotonous regularity four a former miner turned 91 00:11:11,227 --> 00:11:15,127 campaigner initially became concerned about this landfill in order to 92 00:11:15,127 --> 00:11:18,527 stop it being built on an area of historic interest 93 00:11:19,007 --> 00:11:21,867 but it was to be the first of many battles 94 00:11:22,307 --> 00:11:23,747 The stench is horrendous. 95 00:11:23,757 --> 00:11:26,327 You could not put a baby outside on the lawn 96 00:11:26,647 --> 00:11:29,437 flies flies phenomenal. 97 00:11:29,667 --> 00:11:32,967 We actually mounted a private prosecution against the firm for 98 00:11:32,967 --> 00:11:37,117 the flyers because the environment agency wouldn't in our conservatory 99 00:11:37,507 --> 00:11:42,797 we've had as many as 3 to 4000 flies paul 100 00:11:42,797 --> 00:11:47,177 feels the british authorities and government agencies are complacent and 101 00:11:47,177 --> 00:11:50,077 don't do enough to safeguard the health of the community 102 00:11:50,407 --> 00:11:53,887 only once as the environment agency prosecuted. 103 00:11:54,177 --> 00:11:59,137 And those site owners have never ever once taking this 104 00:11:59,137 --> 00:12:04,017 company to court over the breaches of their lease documentation 105 00:12:04,607 --> 00:12:08,207 paul however has been taken to court on numerous occasions 106 00:12:08,587 --> 00:12:11,657 earning him two lifetime injunctions for his efforts. 107 00:12:13,107 --> 00:12:16,357 The judge said to me I will take every penny 108 00:12:16,357 --> 00:12:20,637 you've got I will take your house away from you 109 00:12:20,977 --> 00:12:23,587 and you will go directly to jail if you show 110 00:12:23,587 --> 00:12:28,927 any documentation or go on that tip again the waste 111 00:12:29,107 --> 00:12:31,797 industry in this country are so rich that they can 112 00:12:31,797 --> 00:12:36,747 afford to employ universities to prove that things and common 113 00:12:36,747 --> 00:12:37,377 sense. 114 00:12:41,107 --> 00:12:45,147 An official from the environment agency who investigated this particular 115 00:12:45,147 --> 00:12:49,077 landfill wrote that monitoring left much to be desired. 116 00:12:49,077 --> 00:12:53,267 His report concluded Accepting the EA's views that this is 117 00:12:53,267 --> 00:12:57,747 one of the better regulated of some 2500 active landfill 118 00:12:57,747 --> 00:12:59,557 sites in England and Wales. 119 00:12:59,567 --> 00:13:06,287 What does that say for the rest all over the 120 00:13:06,287 --> 00:13:10,617 world landfills are filling up fast in some places like 121 00:13:10,617 --> 00:13:13,717 Beijing space for waste to simply run out. 122 00:13:16,497 --> 00:13:20,257 Over the past decade 14 dumps around New York have 123 00:13:20,257 --> 00:13:21,417 reached capacity. 124 00:13:25,607 --> 00:13:27,527 Society produces lots of waste. 125 00:13:28,007 --> 00:13:29,027 We're all part of the problem. 126 00:13:29,707 --> 00:13:32,557 If you went back 150 years you'd find that the 127 00:13:32,557 --> 00:13:35,387 waste stream consisted mainly of natural products. 128 00:13:35,387 --> 00:13:42,397 So it would be paper wood products animal products wool 129 00:13:42,407 --> 00:13:46,127 the fibers cotton wool were all naturally produced. 130 00:13:47,107 --> 00:13:51,437 What's happened in that intervening time 150 years is that 131 00:13:51,617 --> 00:13:56,427 the the waste stream has become progressively more toxic. 132 00:13:58,207 --> 00:14:04,547 So we've seen increasing levels of heavy metals radioactive substances 133 00:14:04,687 --> 00:14:06,587 synthetic plastics. 134 00:14:06,907 --> 00:14:09,487 So 150 years ago you could have taken away stream 135 00:14:09,487 --> 00:14:10,597 you could have stuck it in the hole in the 136 00:14:10,607 --> 00:14:13,467 ground and it would have rotted and there would not 137 00:14:13,467 --> 00:14:15,937 have really been many long term consequences. 138 00:14:16,307 --> 00:14:18,097 Now if you want to go looking at a modern 139 00:14:18,097 --> 00:14:20,247 waste tip you need to be very careful. 140 00:14:20,357 --> 00:14:23,927 They're actually quite poisonous but even when they're closed down 141 00:14:24,607 --> 00:14:29,327 they still cause problems Although most new sites have a 142 00:14:29,327 --> 00:14:32,707 layer of clay spread beneath the liner which both act 143 00:14:32,707 --> 00:14:35,817 as a barrier to stop chemicals leaching into the groundwater 144 00:14:36,027 --> 00:14:39,487 It seems this method is flawed and that all barriers 145 00:14:39,497 --> 00:14:41,237 will ultimately fail. 146 00:14:42,207 --> 00:14:45,337 Making dumps a potential threat for hundreds of years. 147 00:14:47,387 --> 00:14:50,837 In 2008 a major land slip unearthed an old landfill 148 00:14:50,837 --> 00:14:55,257 on Dorsett's World Heritage Jurassic coastline spewing rubbish down the 149 00:14:55,257 --> 00:14:57,327 cliff face and onto the beach below. 150 00:15:01,107 --> 00:15:04,977 But with no definitive landfill maps no one can predict 151 00:15:04,977 --> 00:15:08,557 where or how coastal erosion and rising tides will affect 152 00:15:08,557 --> 00:15:11,517 old sites wherever in the world they are. 153 00:15:12,107 --> 00:15:15,787 Nature functions by building up and breaking down building up 154 00:15:15,797 --> 00:15:18,867 and breaking down anything that goes out into the environment 155 00:15:18,867 --> 00:15:21,537 which is made by nature is built up and broken 156 00:15:21,537 --> 00:15:21,807 down. 157 00:15:21,817 --> 00:15:23,217 built up and broken down. 158 00:15:23,537 --> 00:15:26,877 And we've had hiccups with our civilization because we keep 159 00:15:26,877 --> 00:15:30,827 putting things into the environment that don't break down. 160 00:15:31,207 --> 00:15:35,587 Even the best managed and closely monitored landfills still cause 161 00:15:35,587 --> 00:15:36,517 problems. 162 00:15:37,607 --> 00:15:40,737 This one in Gloucestershire in the heart of the Cotswnolds 163 00:15:40,747 --> 00:15:41,717 is no exception. 164 00:15:44,177 --> 00:15:49,027 Licensed to take 150,000 tons of hazardous waste a year 165 00:15:49,697 --> 00:15:52,127 It's one of the most toxic dumps in europe. 166 00:15:53,807 --> 00:15:55,077 This is the only way you can get to see 167 00:15:55,077 --> 00:15:55,257 it. 168 00:15:55,807 --> 00:16:06,097 It is really without trespassing yep and there we have 169 00:16:06,097 --> 00:16:08,397 it in all its glory it's enormous. 170 00:16:08,407 --> 00:16:11,597 This is Brandon's hazardous waste landfill and what's he going 171 00:16:11,597 --> 00:16:12,497 to be filled with? 172 00:16:12,597 --> 00:16:15,557 It's going to be filled with a mixture fairly innocuous 173 00:16:15,557 --> 00:16:19,047 things like paints and varnishes solvents but the ones that 174 00:16:19,047 --> 00:16:22,077 were ears are things that have been produced by combustion 175 00:16:22,077 --> 00:16:23,427 particularly municipal waste. 176 00:16:23,907 --> 00:16:27,137 What is shocking is the quantities that are coming here 177 00:16:27,707 --> 00:16:33,027 And the location because 15,000 people live within three km 178 00:16:33,047 --> 00:16:37,687 of that whole and the wind most commonly blows across 179 00:16:37,687 --> 00:16:40,357 the site in that direction towards the village you can 180 00:16:40,357 --> 00:16:43,337 see the spire in the village of Bishop's Cleeve there 181 00:16:43,797 --> 00:16:47,137 and the method that is used is incredibly primitive. 182 00:16:47,907 --> 00:16:51,167 The waste material is mixed with liquid in these silos 183 00:16:51,167 --> 00:16:54,317 before being spread on the landfill so as to prevent 184 00:16:54,427 --> 00:16:57,597 toxic dust from escaping and being blown onto nearby land 185 00:16:57,597 --> 00:17:04,987 and houses mix it up with from the landfill that 186 00:17:04,997 --> 00:17:08,797 is all of the liquid that drains off at the 187 00:17:08,797 --> 00:17:13,027 bottom of the landfill everything rots down and lead. 188 00:17:13,507 --> 00:17:16,947 It's the substance that comes down and we know That 189 00:17:16,947 --> 00:17:18,927 there is chromium six. 190 00:17:19,307 --> 00:17:22,427 We know that there is cadmium and a whole load 191 00:17:22,427 --> 00:17:26,047 of other heavy metals in there which are really dangerous 192 00:17:26,047 --> 00:17:26,937 to human health. 193 00:17:27,097 --> 00:17:28,167 It's outrageous. 194 00:17:29,557 --> 00:17:32,247 The local residents were so worried by the toxic dust 195 00:17:32,247 --> 00:17:33,547 clouds clouds. 196 00:17:33,657 --> 00:17:36,937 The operators of the site have maintained neither drifted nor 197 00:17:36,937 --> 00:17:42,717 even existed that they started an investigation along with the 198 00:17:42,717 --> 00:17:43,897 residents findings. 199 00:17:43,907 --> 00:17:48,377 Government agencies also discovered the dust outside the landfill but 200 00:17:48,377 --> 00:17:52,548 came to the conclusion it was unlikely to be associated 201 00:17:52,558 --> 00:17:55,638 with a significant risk to health. 202 00:17:59,978 --> 00:18:02,388 The owner of the field next to the landfill gave 203 00:18:02,388 --> 00:18:04,958 me permission to take a sample of soil and tested 204 00:18:04,968 --> 00:18:05,728 for toxins. 205 00:18:06,408 --> 00:18:11,008 Mark spots Into a square at 10 m by 10 206 00:18:11,008 --> 00:18:11,928 m right? 207 00:18:14,008 --> 00:18:16,728 2 3 4 5 6. 208 00:18:17,268 --> 00:18:20,528 It was important to do this in a scientific way 209 00:18:21,308 --> 00:18:26,318 four samples from the century Accumulate The eight sub samples 210 00:18:27,608 --> 00:18:28,828 It's the middle of that. 211 00:18:29,408 --> 00:18:30,128 Where's the stick? 212 00:18:32,808 --> 00:18:33,728 I've lost my stick. 213 00:18:40,508 --> 00:18:41,868 See what's impossible. 214 00:18:42,108 --> 00:18:44,968 I have to put the sticks up where I mean 215 00:18:44,968 --> 00:18:46,658 a flag would have been more useful. 216 00:18:49,808 --> 00:18:51,328 Others must be over here. 217 00:18:53,708 --> 00:18:54,818 I've done that one. 218 00:18:58,308 --> 00:19:00,658 We are free of as much as we can. 219 00:19:00,658 --> 00:19:01,838 There's a bit of rooted in there. 220 00:19:01,838 --> 00:19:07,698 But their reality that I think back to my time 221 00:19:07,698 --> 00:19:10,858 at school I was hopeless except for growing mold on 222 00:19:10,858 --> 00:19:11,548 old food. 223 00:19:11,548 --> 00:19:12,418 I was very good at that. 224 00:19:13,438 --> 00:19:18,538 The samples I took revealed elevated levels of 17 toxic 225 00:19:18,548 --> 00:19:19,918 chemicals in the soil. 226 00:19:19,928 --> 00:19:24,008 When the Health Protection Agency analyzed their own dust samples 227 00:19:24,018 --> 00:19:26,008 they too found toxins present. 228 00:19:26,048 --> 00:19:29,798 But once again concluded they were unlikely to be associated 229 00:19:29,798 --> 00:19:31,928 with a significant risk to health. 230 00:19:32,608 --> 00:19:37,488 Yet other independent soil analysis found levels of toxins many 231 00:19:37,488 --> 00:19:38,928 1000 times higher. 232 00:19:46,408 --> 00:19:50,328 Yet a major study of 21 hazardous waste landfill sites 233 00:19:50,328 --> 00:19:54,528 in five countries found that living within three km of 234 00:19:54,538 --> 00:19:59,128 any of them was associated with a significantly raised risk 235 00:19:59,228 --> 00:20:00,968 of congenital anomalies. 236 00:20:01,908 --> 00:20:03,828 birth defects to you and me. 237 00:20:06,608 --> 00:20:09,668 But like almost every report on the health effects of 238 00:20:09,668 --> 00:20:13,848 landfills including those that found increased cases of cancer. 239 00:20:14,388 --> 00:20:18,478 This one also ends by calling for nothing but further 240 00:20:18,478 --> 00:20:25,178 research no matter who you believe there's no doubt landfills 241 00:20:25,178 --> 00:20:26,818 are damaging to the environment. 242 00:20:27,888 --> 00:20:31,488 And although all the studies say there's not enough evidence 243 00:20:31,488 --> 00:20:36,498 to prove conclusively that they damage health it's obvious to 244 00:20:36,498 --> 00:20:40,238 me that the land filling of rubbish needs to be 245 00:20:40,238 --> 00:20:40,908 reduced. 246 00:20:40,908 --> 00:20:55,768 Significa the question is what do we do instead with 247 00:20:55,768 --> 00:20:58,138 the need to reduce the amount of waste dumped in 248 00:20:58,138 --> 00:20:59,838 the ground burning? 249 00:20:59,838 --> 00:21:02,638 What we no longer need seems like the perfect solution 250 00:21:04,308 --> 00:21:07,378 Although incineration is generally more expensive than land filling. 251 00:21:07,558 --> 00:21:09,528 It's the most widely used alternative. 252 00:21:11,308 --> 00:21:13,878 There are no records of the exact number of municipal 253 00:21:13,878 --> 00:21:15,198 incinerators in the world. 254 00:21:15,558 --> 00:21:17,928 But there are thought to be about 800. 255 00:21:18,508 --> 00:21:21,758 Some reports say there could be as many as 469 256 00:21:21,758 --> 00:21:25,268 in Japan alone and in the UK We do know 257 00:21:25,268 --> 00:21:28,668 that there are 30 with planning applications to build over 258 00:21:28,668 --> 00:21:39,258 90 more incinerators are designed to burn rubbish at very 259 00:21:39,258 --> 00:21:43,528 high temperatures converting it into gas ash heat and electricity 260 00:21:44,108 --> 00:21:47,198 The newer ones are being promoted as a potential green 261 00:21:47,198 --> 00:21:50,748 energy solution and indeed are no longer called incinerators. 262 00:21:50,928 --> 00:21:53,138 They're now known as waste to energy plants. 263 00:21:55,008 --> 00:21:58,928 But as with landfill there are hazards associated with incineration 264 00:21:59,508 --> 00:22:02,718 toxic chemicals escaping into the environment. 265 00:22:03,908 --> 00:22:05,398 In developed countries. 266 00:22:05,908 --> 00:22:09,798 They are subject to strict monitoring to ensure the design 267 00:22:09,798 --> 00:22:14,428 operation and maintenance of these facilities provide maximum safety reducing 268 00:22:14,428 --> 00:22:16,038 the risk to the surrounding environ. 269 00:22:18,208 --> 00:22:23,108 However some scientists have been campaigning actively against incineration One 270 00:22:23,108 --> 00:22:24,638 of them for over 20 years. 271 00:22:26,308 --> 00:22:29,048 I first got involved when the librarian asked me to 272 00:22:29,048 --> 00:22:32,758 look at the issue of incineration because they were building 273 00:22:32,758 --> 00:22:36,018 or wanted to build an incinerator in our county. 274 00:22:36,088 --> 00:22:38,058 And at first I thought it was a good idea 275 00:22:38,058 --> 00:22:40,668 You get rid of all the terrible landfills you make 276 00:22:40,678 --> 00:22:43,008 energy at the same time you get rid of. 277 00:22:43,008 --> 00:22:45,578 You only got one facility to monitor. 278 00:22:45,668 --> 00:22:47,038 It looked like a good idea. 279 00:22:47,808 --> 00:22:49,978 She says well you better read these and it was 280 00:22:49,978 --> 00:22:53,718 papers from barry commoner that talked about the dioxin issue 281 00:22:54,208 --> 00:22:56,208 and it didn't take me long to realize that this 282 00:22:56,208 --> 00:22:57,928 was a crazy idea. 283 00:23:05,808 --> 00:23:11,468 I've come to Iceland to the remote town of capital 284 00:23:11,468 --> 00:23:16,868 of the west fjords to meet residents concerned about emissions 285 00:23:16,868 --> 00:23:22,808 from the incinerator used to burn their rubbish Built in 286 00:23:22,808 --> 00:23:25,938 1994 at Great Expense to the local community. 287 00:23:26,218 --> 00:23:30,688 This incinerator called funny meaning fire in Icelandic was recently 288 00:23:30,688 --> 00:23:33,728 shut down after its chemical emissions were found to be 289 00:23:33,738 --> 00:23:38,448 too high incinerators at the bottom of a fjord and 290 00:23:38,458 --> 00:23:42,668 the weather here is very still so it doesn't go 291 00:23:42,668 --> 00:23:45,638 anywhere the smoke goes up and it falls down. 292 00:23:47,608 --> 00:23:50,978 What we know is that there are certain generic problems 293 00:23:50,978 --> 00:23:51,958 with incineration. 294 00:23:52,108 --> 00:23:57,068 The level of safety that is offered is totally dependent 295 00:23:57,078 --> 00:24:02,088 on the engineering and totally dependent on it working perfectly 296 00:24:02,088 --> 00:24:02,868 all the time. 297 00:24:02,878 --> 00:24:08,418 And it's a very very challenging environment inside and incinerated 298 00:24:08,418 --> 00:24:13,288 very high temperature very hot acidic gasses experience tells us 299 00:24:13,288 --> 00:24:15,428 that they don't work perfectly all the time. 300 00:24:16,708 --> 00:24:20,068 Tons of waste went through this every week. 301 00:24:20,078 --> 00:24:23,438 The dioxin levels were found to be way too high 302 00:24:23,448 --> 00:24:28,488 and nobody wants to be contaminated basically because it's it's 303 00:24:28,488 --> 00:24:33,138 a it causes all sorts of diseases like cancer and 304 00:24:33,508 --> 00:24:35,218 if it builds up in the body. 305 00:24:36,708 --> 00:24:40,408 Although dioxins and other chemicals are already to be found 306 00:24:40,408 --> 00:24:45,308 in our environment created by combustion manufacturing processes forest fires 307 00:24:45,308 --> 00:24:47,758 and volcanoes which Iceland isn't short of. 308 00:24:47,868 --> 00:24:51,708 It's the manmade halogen ated ones produced by burning certain 309 00:24:51,708 --> 00:24:53,828 types of rubbish which caused concern. 310 00:24:54,708 --> 00:24:59,978 Dioxins are compounds that are made from carbon like we 311 00:24:59,978 --> 00:25:02,718 are but they've got some extra bits stuck on. 312 00:25:03,308 --> 00:25:08,418 These are chlorine or bromine molecules and they do not 313 00:25:08,418 --> 00:25:12,048 occur naturally in mainstream chemistry of life. 314 00:25:12,228 --> 00:25:15,888 Now the problem with these compounds is that a they 315 00:25:15,888 --> 00:25:17,048 tend to persist. 316 00:25:17,058 --> 00:25:20,658 I we don't have life does not have the enzymes 317 00:25:20,658 --> 00:25:22,368 and things to be able to break them down. 318 00:25:22,448 --> 00:25:24,978 But if you set fire to them you start to 319 00:25:24,978 --> 00:25:28,898 produce a set of compounds which are very toxic. 320 00:25:29,108 --> 00:25:33,448 The dioxins are one example there are many many others 321 00:25:33,718 --> 00:25:36,728 but the most toxic of them are the dioxins which 322 00:25:36,728 --> 00:25:38,538 is why they get so much attention. 323 00:25:40,608 --> 00:25:45,268 In 1997 all European incinerators were required to have strict 324 00:25:45,278 --> 00:25:46,638 pollution controls. 325 00:25:47,208 --> 00:25:51,458 But the sophisticated filters needed to capture the pollutants aren't 326 00:25:51,468 --> 00:25:51,918 cheap. 327 00:25:52,588 --> 00:25:54,858 These are the new ones added to funny in order 328 00:25:54,858 --> 00:25:55,958 to make it comply. 329 00:25:56,808 --> 00:25:59,238 So here we are around the side there's a chimney 330 00:25:59,238 --> 00:26:02,348 obviously they bought this huge great filter which was hugely 331 00:26:02,348 --> 00:26:06,358 expensive and it worked very well for about a few 332 00:26:06,358 --> 00:26:10,508 months and then it stopped working and to buy new 333 00:26:10,508 --> 00:26:14,218 filters enormously expensive but eventually they did and that worked 334 00:26:14,218 --> 00:26:16,328 again brilliantly and then stopped working. 335 00:26:16,708 --> 00:26:18,918 It's a bit like the bags costing more than the 336 00:26:18,918 --> 00:26:19,728 vacuum cleaner. 337 00:26:21,008 --> 00:26:24,848 And then finally four years after they originally invested in 338 00:26:24,848 --> 00:26:27,528 this they stopped using it because they couldn't afford to 339 00:26:27,528 --> 00:26:28,028 use it. 340 00:26:29,308 --> 00:26:32,098 But regardless of how effective the filters are at capturing 341 00:26:32,098 --> 00:26:32,998 these toxins. 342 00:26:33,408 --> 00:26:38,518 The fact remains all incinerators produce ash which still has 343 00:26:38,518 --> 00:26:41,608 to be disposed of basically there's two ashes that were 344 00:26:41,608 --> 00:26:42,448 concerned about. 345 00:26:42,458 --> 00:26:44,858 There's the bottom ash which is the ash which falls 346 00:26:44,858 --> 00:26:47,008 through the grates just like in the fireplace. 347 00:26:47,328 --> 00:26:49,038 That's the ash from the furnace. 348 00:26:49,458 --> 00:26:51,908 And then we have the fly ash which is essentially 349 00:26:51,908 --> 00:26:55,838 the tiny particles which we capture in the air pollution 350 00:26:55,958 --> 00:26:59,318 control devices very fine materials. 351 00:27:00,208 --> 00:27:02,898 The bottom ash is about 90% in the fly ash 352 00:27:02,898 --> 00:27:04,138 is about 10%. 353 00:27:04,708 --> 00:27:07,278 The bottom ash is toxic and the fly Ash is 354 00:27:07,278 --> 00:27:08,908 extremely toxic. 355 00:27:09,068 --> 00:27:13,148 It has toxic metals dioxins furans and so on. 356 00:27:13,228 --> 00:27:16,008 It's been estimated that between 50 and 80% of the 357 00:27:16,018 --> 00:27:21,388 total dioxin contamination of the planet has been caused by 358 00:27:21,568 --> 00:27:24,188 the incineration of waste B A. 359 00:27:24,188 --> 00:27:26,348 Clinical waste or municipal waste. 360 00:27:26,348 --> 00:27:30,408 So now they claim of course that well we've modified 361 00:27:30,408 --> 00:27:32,918 these machines but they only ever talk about what goes 362 00:27:32,918 --> 00:27:35,418 out to air and there's loads being produced in the 363 00:27:35,418 --> 00:27:38,508 ash and that's being used to make breeze blocks for 364 00:27:38,508 --> 00:27:41,178 your house and sweep it under the carpet. 365 00:27:41,178 --> 00:27:42,038 Get rid of it. 366 00:27:42,408 --> 00:27:44,538 But the basic problem has not gone away. 367 00:27:45,908 --> 00:27:50,178 This small incinerator was emitting unacceptably high levels of dioxins 368 00:27:50,178 --> 00:27:54,408 which were found to be entering the food chain if 369 00:27:54,408 --> 00:27:58,278 you build an incinerator in the area then the farmers 370 00:27:58,278 --> 00:28:01,098 are going to be the big recipients of the toxics 371 00:28:01,098 --> 00:28:06,548 particularly dioxins a cow by eating the grass puts into 372 00:28:06,548 --> 00:28:11,508 its body What it would take you 14 years To 373 00:28:11,508 --> 00:28:12,288 breathe. 374 00:28:12,438 --> 00:28:14,258 In other words if you stood next to the couch 375 00:28:14,258 --> 00:28:17,238 and I don't advise it would be very boring 14 376 00:28:17,238 --> 00:28:18,318 years of your life. 377 00:28:18,328 --> 00:28:21,078 But if you did it would literally have to breathe 378 00:28:21,078 --> 00:28:24,588 the air next to that cow for 14 years to 379 00:28:24,588 --> 00:28:27,628 get the same amount of dioxin into your body that 380 00:28:27,628 --> 00:28:34,608 that cow is getting in one day I went to 381 00:28:34,608 --> 00:28:37,058 visit the farmer affected by the incinerator. 382 00:28:37,708 --> 00:28:39,828 He was initially reluctant to talk to me. 383 00:28:39,838 --> 00:28:43,388 His family had been farming here for over 150 years 384 00:28:43,388 --> 00:28:45,918 and the stress of their problems had taken its toll 385 00:28:45,918 --> 00:28:48,628 on his elderly father who just suffered a stroke. 386 00:28:50,208 --> 00:28:54,348 Hello I'm jeremy and I'm very sorry to hear about 387 00:28:54,348 --> 00:28:57,888 your about your situation and I was wondering if we 388 00:28:57,888 --> 00:28:59,728 could maybe go and look at the cars. 389 00:29:01,208 --> 00:29:03,798 He also told me a calf born recently had died 390 00:29:03,798 --> 00:29:05,308 at birth of liver damage. 391 00:29:05,448 --> 00:29:12,058 He felt as a direct result of the incinerator instructed 392 00:29:12,058 --> 00:29:14,519 to keep his animals confined for the past two months 393 00:29:14,519 --> 00:29:17,559 His only certainty was that at some point all of 394 00:29:17,559 --> 00:29:25,049 them would have to be put down the unacceptably high 395 00:29:25,049 --> 00:29:28,689 levels of dioxins found in this herd's milk were only 396 00:29:28,689 --> 00:29:32,259 discovered after his neighbor asked the dairy distributor to test 397 00:29:32,259 --> 00:29:32,489 it. 398 00:29:33,709 --> 00:29:35,519 He wanted to show me where he'd been pouring the 399 00:29:35,519 --> 00:29:36,109 milk away. 400 00:29:36,109 --> 00:29:38,519 He said he was puzzled by a strange residue from 401 00:29:38,519 --> 00:29:39,549 the rejected milk. 402 00:29:40,509 --> 00:29:53,499 Just the credit his land. 403 00:29:53,499 --> 00:29:57,829 Now as a farmer is worthless and the government have 404 00:29:57,829 --> 00:29:58,969 offered no compensation. 405 00:30:00,209 --> 00:30:00,539 Still. 406 00:30:00,539 --> 00:30:12,649 She's thinking I could take you this must have affected 407 00:30:12,649 --> 00:30:14,629 your family dreadful. 408 00:30:17,109 --> 00:30:32,529 Uh You have it may now get them in with 409 00:30:32,529 --> 00:30:35,929 his livelihood gone and no word of compensation. 410 00:30:36,509 --> 00:30:39,419 The future for him and his family looked bleak. 411 00:30:41,779 --> 00:30:45,539 I wanted to find someone to shed some official light 412 00:30:46,009 --> 00:30:47,029 on what was happening. 413 00:30:48,609 --> 00:30:52,269 You take decision last november to close it and to 414 00:30:52,279 --> 00:30:54,049 recycle the carpets. 415 00:30:54,609 --> 00:30:57,799 And a few weeks after we took that decision we 416 00:30:57,799 --> 00:31:04,229 had these problems with the what will happen to Mr 417 00:31:04,229 --> 00:31:06,929 johnson Willie a conversation for his farm. 418 00:31:08,109 --> 00:31:08,949 I hope so. 419 00:31:09,159 --> 00:31:12,479 I hope at least it won't be he who has 420 00:31:12,479 --> 00:31:13,239 to pay for it. 421 00:31:13,569 --> 00:31:16,739 And then then it's either us or the government that's 422 00:31:16,749 --> 00:31:18,029 responsible in my opinion. 423 00:31:21,009 --> 00:31:24,479 The last time the Icelandic Environmental Agency tested Funny was 424 00:31:24,479 --> 00:31:25,719 in 2007. 425 00:31:26,709 --> 00:31:30,259 And although those results showed the emissions were 21 times 426 00:31:30,259 --> 00:31:31,229 above the safe limit. 427 00:31:31,459 --> 00:31:34,929 The incinerator wasn't closed down until December 2009. 428 00:31:36,009 --> 00:31:39,109 I wanted to know why I was hoping to meet 429 00:31:39,109 --> 00:31:41,299 the Minister for the environment but she's got the flu 430 00:31:41,299 --> 00:31:41,729 today. 431 00:31:42,109 --> 00:31:46,239 So I'm gonna meet her second in command and see 432 00:31:46,239 --> 00:31:50,769 what he's got to say our experts that we're dealing 433 00:31:50,769 --> 00:31:53,669 with those those matters there. 434 00:31:53,669 --> 00:31:57,539 The the environment Agency felt that there was not this 435 00:31:57,939 --> 00:32:02,289 this threat of of of any danger to the to 436 00:32:02,289 --> 00:32:05,339 the to the environment or to the health of the 437 00:32:05,339 --> 00:32:05,709 people. 438 00:32:05,939 --> 00:32:08,719 And yet you feel that we should try not to 439 00:32:08,719 --> 00:32:09,959 have any dioxins in the. 440 00:32:10,439 --> 00:32:14,259 Well that's that's my personal that's my personal view that 441 00:32:14,269 --> 00:32:17,959 we should we should make all the efforts and we 442 00:32:17,959 --> 00:32:22,239 need to have a look at the practical options practical 443 00:32:22,239 --> 00:32:23,139 solutions that we do have. 444 00:32:23,609 --> 00:32:26,449 Mm But at the time you didn't make any efforts 445 00:32:26,449 --> 00:32:28,429 to close the incinerators. 446 00:32:28,729 --> 00:32:33,369 Well I think the the the the the the signals 447 00:32:33,809 --> 00:32:39,609 from the the environmental agency came to us much later 448 00:32:40,209 --> 00:32:42,249 It was not until early this year. 449 00:32:42,309 --> 00:32:45,259 So it was it was when you discovered the land 450 00:32:45,259 --> 00:32:48,829 around it was actually polluted because the operators I think 451 00:32:48,829 --> 00:32:53,769 said that that there would be no problem with pollutants 452 00:32:53,779 --> 00:32:57,829 near the incinerator and yet 1500 yards away we have 453 00:32:57,829 --> 00:33:01,789 this land which is apparently now unusable. 454 00:33:04,009 --> 00:33:07,809 So the operators it seems of people who supply the 455 00:33:07,809 --> 00:33:11,219 equipment should maybe be held to account. 456 00:33:14,809 --> 00:33:23,979 But Iceland with its defective incinerators isn't alone all over 457 00:33:23,979 --> 00:33:28,679 the world incinerator operators regularly violate their emission limits. 458 00:33:34,499 --> 00:33:36,209 And it's not just the old ones. 459 00:33:36,589 --> 00:33:38,949 The new state of the art facility which opened in 460 00:33:38,949 --> 00:33:47,679 Scotland in 2009 breached its emission limits 172 times and 461 00:33:47,679 --> 00:33:48,839 these things aren't cheap. 462 00:33:49,409 --> 00:33:52,209 The town of Harrisburg's in the USA was forced to 463 00:33:52,209 --> 00:33:56,089 file for bankruptcy due in part to a $310 million 464 00:33:56,089 --> 00:33:58,229 dollar debt for their incinerator. 465 00:34:01,209 --> 00:34:06,219 While Detroit taxpayers went $1.2 billion dollars into the red 466 00:34:06,219 --> 00:34:07,479 building and upgrading. 467 00:34:07,479 --> 00:34:13,559 There's one of the world's largest But communities could be 468 00:34:13,559 --> 00:34:15,829 made to pay in more ways than one. 469 00:34:23,909 --> 00:34:27,149 For over nine years residents in this idyllic town in 470 00:34:27,149 --> 00:34:30,509 France have been fighting for justice with the authorities and 471 00:34:30,509 --> 00:34:33,839 the owners of their local incinerator now demolished. 472 00:34:36,109 --> 00:34:42,709 It had been releasing dioxins 13,000 times above permitted limits 473 00:34:43,109 --> 00:34:47,019 But here once again the incinerator continued to operate. 474 00:34:47,269 --> 00:34:50,559 It was only when local cancer cases increased significantly that 475 00:34:50,559 --> 00:34:55,139 it was closed down The street behind the facility became 476 00:34:55,139 --> 00:34:57,149 known in the news as Cancer Road. 477 00:34:57,529 --> 00:35:01,469 When 24 out of the 80 residents contracted the disease 478 00:35:02,099 --> 00:35:33,119 only One small incinerator wrecked 350 farms. 479 00:35:34,299 --> 00:35:40,259 3000 animals were called 7000 tons of hay was destroyed 480 00:35:40,919 --> 00:35:44,029 And 13,000 liters of milk were poured away. 481 00:36:12,199 --> 00:36:16,879 The court case involving 165 residents was dismissed on the 482 00:36:16,879 --> 00:36:19,989 basis that the cancer cluster in the area was not 483 00:36:19,999 --> 00:36:25,589 statistically significant and that there was no proven link between 484 00:36:25,589 --> 00:36:28,019 exposure to dioxin and cancer. 485 00:36:51,699 --> 00:36:56,229 The precautionary principle says that in the absence of scientific 486 00:36:56,229 --> 00:37:00,499 certainty the burden of proof should show the action isn't 487 00:37:00,499 --> 00:37:01,209 harmful. 488 00:37:01,889 --> 00:37:04,369 So in this case shouldn't it have been up to 489 00:37:04,369 --> 00:37:08,159 the authorities to prove the incinerator was safe as opposed 490 00:37:08,159 --> 00:37:10,619 to the local residents having to prove it wasn't. 491 00:37:11,989 --> 00:37:15,279 We're pretty sure that with humans you can't get absolute 492 00:37:15,279 --> 00:37:15,839 proof. 493 00:37:15,849 --> 00:37:18,819 So that's why governments have to be prepared to act 494 00:37:19,589 --> 00:37:22,569 with precaution on the balance of evidence. 495 00:37:22,579 --> 00:37:28,119 I mean the manufacturers usually demand that you give them 496 00:37:28,489 --> 00:37:33,109 proof beyond all reasonable doubt but they know that that's 497 00:37:33,109 --> 00:37:33,859 asking for the moon. 498 00:37:33,859 --> 00:37:34,509 You can't have it. 499 00:37:35,589 --> 00:37:37,439 So some people when they see the stack of an 500 00:37:37,439 --> 00:37:44,879 incinerator the chimney I think oh dilution dispersion and forget 501 00:37:44,879 --> 00:37:45,619 that nature. 502 00:37:45,629 --> 00:37:50,129 Re concentrates re concentrates in fish particularly mercury and re 503 00:37:50,129 --> 00:37:56,039 concentrates with any grazing animal sheep pigs goats cows chickens 504 00:37:57,359 --> 00:37:58,949 and so we get all this back to us and 505 00:37:58,949 --> 00:38:02,369 and now just to finish that story the huge problem 506 00:38:02,369 --> 00:38:04,809 here is that once we get dioxins into our body 507 00:38:04,819 --> 00:38:05,629 we can't get rid of them. 508 00:38:06,489 --> 00:38:08,859 The man can't give him a woman has a way 509 00:38:08,859 --> 00:38:09,599 of getting rid of them. 510 00:38:09,779 --> 00:38:11,319 It's called having a baby. 511 00:38:11,889 --> 00:38:15,289 So she's getting the dioxin from her food every day 512 00:38:15,299 --> 00:38:16,269 She can't get rid of it. 513 00:38:16,459 --> 00:38:18,639 It accumulates in her body fat. 514 00:38:18,939 --> 00:38:23,609 And when she's pregnant The dioxin that she's accumulated for 515 00:38:23,609 --> 00:38:26,779 25 years or so in her body now moves to 516 00:38:26,779 --> 00:38:27,529 the fotis. 517 00:38:27,829 --> 00:38:31,789 And so the effective concentration of that stuff is hugely 518 00:38:31,799 --> 00:38:35,889 increased in the fotis potential to interfere with the baby's 519 00:38:35,899 --> 00:38:37,109 mental development. 520 00:38:37,549 --> 00:38:41,909 The baby's immune system and the babies are sexual development 521 00:38:42,889 --> 00:39:04,809 It's not a wise thing to do but to really 522 00:39:04,809 --> 00:39:07,629 understand the power of manmade dioxins I felt I needed 523 00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:08,899 to see them at their worst. 524 00:39:11,179 --> 00:39:16,079 During the Vietnam war agent orange a herbicide contaminated with 525 00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:16,289 T. 526 00:39:16,289 --> 00:39:16,569 C. 527 00:39:16,569 --> 00:39:16,819 D. 528 00:39:16,819 --> 00:39:17,319 D. 529 00:39:17,449 --> 00:39:21,379 The most deadly of the dioxins was repeatedly sprayed over 530 00:39:21,379 --> 00:39:23,739 the jungle to kill the foliage and cut off the 531 00:39:23,739 --> 00:39:25,459 Vietcong supply lines. 532 00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:30,979 However No one predicted that nearly 40 years later Children 533 00:39:30,979 --> 00:39:34,659 would still be born suffering from what many scientists believe 534 00:39:34,809 --> 00:39:37,189 are the effects of this dioxin contamination. 535 00:39:40,579 --> 00:39:40,809 Yeah. 536 00:39:42,179 --> 00:39:46,899 Dioxins interfere with hormones affect development damage the immune system 537 00:39:47,579 --> 00:39:51,379 with fetuses and breastfeeding infants at particular risk. 538 00:40:18,479 --> 00:40:19,699 Mhm. 539 00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:21,009 Mhm. 540 00:40:26,479 --> 00:40:26,809 Mhm. 541 00:40:31,079 --> 00:40:31,799 Mhm. 542 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,610 We received many thousands. 543 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,600 The form change man abandoned. 544 00:40:54,970 --> 00:41:01,270 Oh their parents want to send them here because we 545 00:41:01,270 --> 00:41:04,300 can take care of them quite well. 546 00:41:06,070 --> 00:41:10,230 Since about 1966 67. 547 00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:14,350 I saw many cases of birth defects but I didn't 548 00:41:14,350 --> 00:41:14,980 know why. 549 00:41:15,670 --> 00:41:21,930 I found a book Population in 1974 by the National 550 00:41:21,940 --> 00:41:24,810 Academy of Science the U. 551 00:41:24,810 --> 00:41:25,060 S. 552 00:41:25,060 --> 00:41:25,390 A. 553 00:41:26,170 --> 00:41:33,390 About a Spraying Mission in Vietnam since 1961. 554 00:41:34,170 --> 00:41:39,180 I realized that maybe the birth defects I have seen 555 00:41:39,770 --> 00:41:44,770 may be caused by toxic chemicals but the U. 556 00:41:44,770 --> 00:41:45,050 S. 557 00:41:45,060 --> 00:41:48,180 Air force stretched during the war time. 558 00:41:49,270 --> 00:41:52,840 People have done calculations to say okay if by magic 559 00:41:52,850 --> 00:41:57,690 we could stop darks in appearing in our diet. 560 00:41:59,170 --> 00:42:00,110 How long would it be? 561 00:42:00,110 --> 00:42:03,740 How many generations would it be before the level diluted 562 00:42:03,740 --> 00:42:05,380 to an extent that you couldn't detect it. 563 00:42:06,170 --> 00:42:13,940 Six generations Children here at the tu du hospital were 564 00:42:13,940 --> 00:42:18,030 considered to be the lucky ones receiving full time care 565 00:42:18,030 --> 00:42:19,800 and attention from the hospital staff. 566 00:42:26,670 --> 00:42:29,490 But many others are not so lucky. 567 00:42:30,970 --> 00:42:33,190 The mother of this little two year old girl was 568 00:42:33,190 --> 00:42:36,700 devastated when her daughter was born without arms or legs 569 00:42:38,070 --> 00:42:43,330 Right until then she'd been unaware that dioxins sprayed during 570 00:42:43,330 --> 00:42:46,490 the war could have any effect on her own family 571 00:43:12,990 --> 00:43:30,000 I look back that's what you're doing your little ball 572 00:43:34,460 --> 00:43:35,230 Yeah. 573 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:42,980 Mhm. 574 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,610 Seeing these Children here in Vietnam leaves me in no 575 00:43:47,610 --> 00:43:50,990 doubt about the dangers caused by exposure to high levels 576 00:43:50,990 --> 00:43:51,860 of dioxins. 577 00:43:51,860 --> 00:43:55,290 But what effects do they have at low levels in 578 00:43:55,290 --> 00:43:56,670 our bodies? 579 00:43:57,060 --> 00:44:01,320 Everyone in the population today has these chemicals in their 580 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:01,790 bodies. 581 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:07,290 We can't find a dose below which nothing has happened 582 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,360 when we look at levels in our experimental animals where 583 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:15,780 we've seen effects we see by chemical effects occurring at 584 00:44:15,780 --> 00:44:18,880 levels that are present in essentially most of our population 585 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:23,170 talking about a chemical that has effects at very low 586 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:24,870 concentrations in the body. 587 00:44:26,460 --> 00:44:29,910 I would say there's absolutely no safe dosage. 588 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,550 Dioxins are the most toxic chemicals that we know of 589 00:44:33,570 --> 00:44:36,340 And even at the minute amounts that we that we 590 00:44:36,340 --> 00:44:37,170 exposed to. 591 00:44:37,180 --> 00:44:41,280 We're still seeing toxic effects on babies on Children. 592 00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:46,140 If you start to look at development as the period 593 00:44:46,150 --> 00:44:50,380 on which to concentrate for toxic effects you find that 594 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,440 a there are many many substances that seem to have 595 00:44:54,440 --> 00:45:00,020 effects and B they occur at doses 100 to 1000 596 00:45:00,020 --> 00:45:03,160 times lower than you need to produce an effect in 597 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:08,870 an adult because developments are kind of one way trip 598 00:45:09,540 --> 00:45:13,510 And if you're pushed off course you you don't necessarily 599 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:24,230 get back In June 2008 33,000 doctors wrote to the 600 00:45:24,230 --> 00:45:28,130 European Parliament concerned by the lack of monitoring of the 601 00:45:28,140 --> 00:45:30,730 ultra fine particles incinerators. 602 00:45:30,730 --> 00:45:36,370 Also emit these nanoparticles are so small. 603 00:45:36,750 --> 00:45:39,170 Not only are they impossible to see they're impossible to 604 00:45:39,180 --> 00:45:44,360 capture and escape regulation and monitoring by any government bodies 605 00:45:45,050 --> 00:45:48,540 There are two basic questions with nanoparticles is one where 606 00:45:48,540 --> 00:45:50,580 do they get to in the body? 607 00:45:50,950 --> 00:45:53,970 And two if they get there does it matter? 608 00:45:55,950 --> 00:45:58,310 We're already quite a long way down the line looking 609 00:45:58,310 --> 00:46:01,390 at the first question I mean the scientific community is 610 00:46:02,050 --> 00:46:03,790 by a number of different methods. 611 00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:07,310 The findings so far indicate that if they get into 612 00:46:07,310 --> 00:46:11,860 your body then they travel and they get around by 613 00:46:11,870 --> 00:46:15,170 the same sorts of mechanisms that viruses do. 614 00:46:15,550 --> 00:46:18,600 If you inhale some particles they've been shown that they 615 00:46:18,610 --> 00:46:22,580 get to the liver the spleen bone marrow the brain 616 00:46:23,510 --> 00:46:25,660 you can get across the blood brain barrier. 617 00:46:32,950 --> 00:46:38,010 There's another process called global distillation going on whereby these 618 00:46:38,500 --> 00:46:42,400 compounds like PCBs and dioxins things are being wafted around 619 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,360 the planet very very low concentrations but they get to 620 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,410 the colder part of the planet and then they condense 621 00:46:49,950 --> 00:46:58,680 right whether it be by dioxins or toxic heavy metals 622 00:46:59,030 --> 00:47:03,900 The arctic which seems so clean on the surface has 623 00:47:03,900 --> 00:47:12,850 become one of the most contaminated places on earth as 624 00:47:12,850 --> 00:47:17,280 the climate warns toxins deposited in the arctic ice have 625 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:21,010 begun to be re released back into our environment. 626 00:47:29,540 --> 00:47:33,750 If you take the inuits their natural diet has been 627 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,370 and they've had to change because it's it's become too 628 00:47:38,370 --> 00:47:38,950 toxic. 629 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,390 So so what we're doing in this part of the 630 00:47:41,390 --> 00:47:44,570 world is having an effect on a global basis. 631 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,730 We can argue about how much dioxin comes out of 632 00:47:48,730 --> 00:47:49,560 modern incinerators. 633 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,060 We can argue about what the health effects are but 634 00:47:53,060 --> 00:47:55,990 what we can't argue about in my view is we've 635 00:47:55,990 --> 00:47:57,360 got too much out there already. 636 00:47:57,370 --> 00:47:59,060 We have too much in the environment we have too 637 00:47:59,060 --> 00:48:00,630 much in our food we have too much in our 638 00:48:00,630 --> 00:48:01,060 bodies. 639 00:48:01,070 --> 00:48:02,440 We have too much in our babies. 640 00:48:02,450 --> 00:48:05,160 We don't need any more and we should be cutting 641 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:09,330 back on sources for which there are clear alternatives. 642 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,590 But what becomes of the billion tons of rubbish we 643 00:48:14,590 --> 00:48:19,130 make that never actually makes it into landfills or incinerators 644 00:48:19,130 --> 00:48:23,400 each year that disappear into the environment washed away through 645 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:27,720 storm drains rivers and ultimately into our oceans. 646 00:48:29,100 --> 00:48:32,460 The evidence lies on beaches all over the world. 647 00:48:34,540 --> 00:48:40,620 2.7 million kg of track was cleared from global shorelines 648 00:48:40,810 --> 00:48:41,950 in a single day. 649 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,350 You see this is so nice to wrap your rubbish 650 00:48:44,490 --> 00:48:46,940 and leave it on the beach in a plastic bag 651 00:48:46,940 --> 00:48:48,210 I mean isn't that thoughtful? 652 00:48:49,390 --> 00:48:52,160 A staggering amount was from smokers. 653 00:48:59,030 --> 00:49:01,630 I'm feeling rather holier than now because at the moment 654 00:49:01,630 --> 00:49:03,710 I'm not smoking I don't know how long it will 655 00:49:03,710 --> 00:49:06,190 last but I do notice a lot of cigarette butts 656 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,110 Yes there will be a lot of cigarettes. 657 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,570 Now they're biodegradable are they know they're not unfortunately they're 658 00:49:12,570 --> 00:49:16,770 made of cellulose acetate acetate kind of type of plastic 659 00:49:16,780 --> 00:49:17,440 basically. 660 00:49:18,140 --> 00:49:21,630 Obviously inside they've also got all the toxins that we're 661 00:49:21,630 --> 00:49:22,990 not going down into people's lungs. 662 00:49:23,070 --> 00:49:25,040 So once in the water that will leach out into 663 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,670 the water and that's because the cigarette butt is so 664 00:49:28,670 --> 00:49:31,730 small and the water is so big does that matter 665 00:49:31,730 --> 00:49:34,290 But it does actually because I have done experiments with 666 00:49:34,290 --> 00:49:36,790 the little water fleas and it can actually poison them 667 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,780 Just one cigarette and a few liters of water. 668 00:49:38,790 --> 00:49:41,130 That's why I'm not smoking it because I'm worried about 669 00:49:41,130 --> 00:49:42,150 the effect it has on water. 670 00:49:43,580 --> 00:49:45,510 So this will never degrade. 671 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,550 It will break down into smaller and smaller pieces but 672 00:49:48,550 --> 00:49:51,420 essentially it just kind of hang around for several years 673 00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:55,820 It's not just the water fleas who are affected in 674 00:49:55,820 --> 00:49:56,320 water. 675 00:49:56,550 --> 00:50:00,610 Each cigarette butt becomes a time release capsule of chemicals 676 00:50:00,750 --> 00:50:05,000 which are also toxic to fish but scientists are only 677 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,510 just beginning to piece together the amount of rubbish in 678 00:50:07,510 --> 00:50:08,380 the world's water. 679 00:50:10,230 --> 00:50:13,280 There's a range of concerns there's the environmental impacts of 680 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,410 debris in the marine environment problem to tourism problems to 681 00:50:16,410 --> 00:50:19,800 shipping but actually my biggest concern is that annually we're 682 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:25,730 using 260 million tons of plastic and we're using 8% 683 00:50:25,730 --> 00:50:27,950 of world oil production in order to do that. 684 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,860 And yet over 30% of that material we throw away 685 00:50:31,930 --> 00:50:32,820 within a year. 686 00:50:56,660 --> 00:50:59,290 Most of the rubbish from the 11 million inhabitants of 687 00:50:59,290 --> 00:51:00,980 Indonesia's rapidly developing. 688 00:51:00,980 --> 00:51:04,890 Jakarta ends up here in the waters of the chile 689 00:51:04,890 --> 00:51:05,550 wang river. 690 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,310 For the city's 1.4 million poor many of whom live 691 00:51:13,310 --> 00:51:14,460 along its banks. 692 00:51:14,580 --> 00:51:31,840 There's no organized waste collection garbage of all types even 693 00:51:31,850 --> 00:51:35,840 dead animals decays in its waters leaving it so contaminated 694 00:51:36,620 --> 00:51:38,840 That it will take 20 years to clean it. 695 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:41,750 Mhm. 696 00:51:45,220 --> 00:51:48,500 Yet millions of people depend on the river not just 697 00:51:48,500 --> 00:51:51,360 for their daily activities such as laundry and bathing but 698 00:51:51,690 --> 00:51:53,930 as their major source of drinking water. 699 00:51:57,220 --> 00:52:33,131 Think right. 700 00:52:37,221 --> 00:52:39,121 For much of this rubbish it's just the beginning of 701 00:52:39,121 --> 00:52:40,851 a long journey out into the sea. 702 00:52:41,921 --> 00:52:47,191 Once there The larger items can harm at least 267 703 00:52:47,191 --> 00:52:48,851 different species of sea life. 704 00:52:49,421 --> 00:52:49,741 Mhm. 705 00:52:50,721 --> 00:52:53,141 And although we've been dumping our waste into the world's 706 00:52:53,141 --> 00:52:56,611 oceans for thousands of years it's this new litter the 707 00:52:56,611 --> 00:53:00,201 trash from the last few decades which many scientists fear 708 00:53:00,201 --> 00:53:04,631 poses the biggest threat yet. 709 00:53:06,851 --> 00:53:08,431 Yeah. 710 00:53:15,211 --> 00:53:15,411 Yeah. 711 00:53:23,311 --> 00:53:23,631 No. 712 00:53:28,511 --> 00:53:28,931 Mhm. 713 00:53:29,411 --> 00:53:29,621 Mhm. 714 00:53:31,711 --> 00:53:31,911 Yeah. 715 00:53:34,011 --> 00:53:34,841 Mhm. 716 00:53:38,011 --> 00:53:40,851 One of the worst cases ever recorded was this gray 717 00:53:40,851 --> 00:53:43,231 whale beached in Seattle. 718 00:53:49,011 --> 00:53:57,041 Yeah Scientists found 20 plastic bags small towels duct tape 719 00:53:57,521 --> 00:54:00,041 surgical gloves and a golf ball. 720 00:54:25,211 --> 00:54:25,841 Mhm. 721 00:54:27,101 --> 00:54:32,301 No understanding the scale of the problem began in august 722 00:54:32,301 --> 00:54:37,211 1997 when returning from a trans pacific voyage Charles moore 723 00:54:37,221 --> 00:54:40,101 took a shortcut home through an area in the north 724 00:54:40,101 --> 00:54:41,931 pacific ocean known as the Golden. 725 00:54:42,511 --> 00:54:45,201 We couldn't come on deck without seeing some form of 726 00:54:45,201 --> 00:54:47,321 trash after just looking for a few minutes. 727 00:54:47,321 --> 00:54:50,851 So got me thinking we need to measure how much 728 00:54:50,851 --> 00:54:51,281 is out here. 729 00:54:51,281 --> 00:54:53,191 And I came back two years later and found there 730 00:54:53,191 --> 00:54:56,431 was six times as much plastic as the zooplankton we 731 00:54:56,431 --> 00:54:59,861 catch in this net by weight and that was explosive 732 00:54:59,861 --> 00:55:04,081 The idea that somehow in the deep ocean we've got 733 00:55:04,081 --> 00:55:11,211 more trash than life ignited the whole controversy about allowing 734 00:55:11,601 --> 00:55:16,111 our throw away society to become part of the ocean 735 00:55:16,121 --> 00:55:16,641 bio. 736 00:55:16,791 --> 00:55:17,461 What is it? 737 00:55:17,461 --> 00:55:20,091 I mean when I envision it I think of just 738 00:55:20,101 --> 00:55:22,691 like a landfill floating in the ocean. 739 00:55:22,691 --> 00:55:23,401 Is that what it is? 740 00:55:23,401 --> 00:55:26,151 No it's it's not like it has that quantity of 741 00:55:26,151 --> 00:55:27,931 trash in it but it's dispersed. 742 00:55:27,931 --> 00:55:30,931 It's an enormous area and the trash is about the 743 00:55:30,931 --> 00:55:32,681 same density as the water itself. 744 00:55:32,681 --> 00:55:35,311 So it lazily floats just below the surface. 745 00:55:35,311 --> 00:55:37,051 And you can't see it from a satellite. 746 00:55:38,901 --> 00:55:42,221 More study shocked the scientific world. 747 00:55:42,901 --> 00:55:46,911 He revealed there were six times as much plastic as 748 00:55:46,921 --> 00:55:49,711 ocean microorganisms known as Zooplankton. 749 00:55:50,201 --> 00:55:52,621 The starting point in the marine food chain. 750 00:55:59,801 --> 00:56:03,191 What's recently become known as the great pacific garbage patch 751 00:56:03,651 --> 00:56:05,781 is situated in an ocean gyre. 752 00:56:05,781 --> 00:56:09,341 In the north pacific covering an area of 20 million 753 00:56:09,341 --> 00:56:13,661 square kilometers where the rotation of currents draws in waste 754 00:56:13,661 --> 00:56:16,671 material from surrounding areas which in this case includes north 755 00:56:16,671 --> 00:56:18,211 America and Japan. 756 00:56:19,101 --> 00:56:23,891 It takes an average of six years for a piece 757 00:56:23,891 --> 00:56:26,771 of rubbish to reach the center of the giant by 758 00:56:26,771 --> 00:56:30,241 which time it will have been eroded into tiny fragments 759 00:56:30,631 --> 00:56:32,801 which is why it's so difficult to measure the true 760 00:56:32,801 --> 00:56:36,441 extent of the problem estimates range from the size of 761 00:56:36,441 --> 00:56:39,031 Quebec to twice the size of texas. 762 00:56:40,901 --> 00:56:42,331 Let's talk trash. 763 00:56:43,301 --> 00:56:46,771 You know we had to be taught to renounce the 764 00:56:46,771 --> 00:56:50,201 powerful conservation ethic we had developed during the Great Depression 765 00:56:50,201 --> 00:56:51,291 in World War two. 766 00:56:51,371 --> 00:56:55,241 After the war we needed to direct our enormous production 767 00:56:55,241 --> 00:56:58,851 capacity toward creation of products for peacetime throwaway. 768 00:56:58,851 --> 00:57:02,351 Plastics take a lot of space and don't biodegrade only 769 00:57:02,351 --> 00:57:04,251 we humans make waste. 770 00:57:04,251 --> 00:57:05,901 That nature can't digest. 771 00:57:08,591 --> 00:57:12,041 There are very few areas of the world ocean Which 772 00:57:12,041 --> 00:57:13,351 are plastic free. 773 00:57:13,591 --> 00:57:18,661 The United Nations itself estimates 46,000 pieces per km2 on 774 00:57:18,661 --> 00:57:20,021 average in the world ocean. 775 00:57:20,031 --> 00:57:24,261 It's rare to find a trawl that has no plastic 776 00:57:24,261 --> 00:57:24,551 in it. 777 00:57:24,561 --> 00:57:27,081 In fact we've never had one in all the trawling 778 00:57:27,081 --> 00:57:29,901 we've done throughout the North Pacific that's been plastic free 779 00:57:31,791 --> 00:57:35,271 We documented come from this river here and the river 780 00:57:35,271 --> 00:57:38,481 over here the san Gabriel in Los Angeles in three 781 00:57:38,481 --> 00:57:42,411 days one rainy day one light rain day and one 782 00:57:42,411 --> 00:57:47,511 dry day 2.3 billion pieces of plastic weighing 30 tons 783 00:57:47,521 --> 00:57:50,511 now for a major urban area that's actually trying to 784 00:57:50,521 --> 00:57:53,231 catch some of that stuff that has street sweeping and 785 00:57:53,231 --> 00:57:54,901 gutter baskets. 786 00:57:55,291 --> 00:57:59,391 If one area like that is still putting in 2.3 787 00:57:59,391 --> 00:58:02,391 billion pieces of plastic in three days weighing 30 tons 788 00:58:02,591 --> 00:58:06,411 Imagine how much is coming in from China and Indonesia 789 00:58:10,191 --> 00:58:11,451 Let's see what we've got here. 790 00:58:11,591 --> 00:58:13,031 How many miles did we troll? 791 00:58:13,311 --> 00:58:15,201 I think you could say we traveled a mile. 792 00:58:15,891 --> 00:58:19,851 Got some packaging thin plastic film. 793 00:58:19,861 --> 00:58:22,971 This is the most common identifiable type of plastic we 794 00:58:22,971 --> 00:58:26,021 find even out in the deep ocean in the past 795 00:58:26,361 --> 00:58:29,831 every material that defines the age that we live in 796 00:58:30,051 --> 00:58:35,511 whether it was steel or copper decayed at some rate 797 00:58:36,091 --> 00:58:37,411 by natural forces. 798 00:58:38,491 --> 00:58:42,051 That rate is much slowed with plastic and that's great 799 00:58:42,061 --> 00:58:45,231 if you want to have long term usage for your 800 00:58:45,231 --> 00:58:45,691 products. 801 00:58:45,791 --> 00:58:48,461 But if you've got a throwaway society it's a bad 802 00:58:48,471 --> 00:58:48,711 thing. 803 00:58:53,381 --> 00:58:56,601 But there are four other ocean gyres and two of 804 00:58:56,601 --> 00:58:59,731 Moore's colleagues have traveled over 20,000 miles to see if 805 00:58:59,731 --> 00:59:01,171 like the North Pacific gyre. 806 00:59:01,301 --> 00:59:02,801 They too are polluted. 807 00:59:03,681 --> 00:59:05,921 You hear just about one the North Pacific jar. 808 00:59:05,921 --> 00:59:08,991 The Captain Moore had had studied 15 years ago But 809 00:59:08,991 --> 00:59:10,901 there was no one going to the other four. 810 00:59:11,281 --> 00:59:14,071 The northern hemisphere has to then there are three in 811 00:59:14,071 --> 00:59:16,831 the south and no one had been in those jars 812 00:59:16,831 --> 00:59:17,701 and see what was happening. 813 00:59:18,481 --> 00:59:20,771 There's been this myth in the media about an island 814 00:59:20,771 --> 00:59:22,911 of garbage the size of texas and then twice the 815 00:59:22,911 --> 00:59:23,791 size of texas. 816 00:59:24,041 --> 00:59:25,141 It isn't like that at all. 817 00:59:25,141 --> 00:59:29,521 And in fact it's more like like this a thin 818 00:59:29,521 --> 00:59:32,481 plastic soup and this is actually a very concentrated sample 819 00:59:32,481 --> 00:59:34,831 This is right off the coast of California but you'll 820 00:59:34,831 --> 00:59:37,891 see it's small broken down fragments of plastic that shares 821 00:59:37,891 --> 00:59:39,511 space with zooplankton. 822 00:59:42,381 --> 00:59:44,731 There's no place that we have gone but we didn't 823 00:59:44,731 --> 00:59:48,801 find at least some particles of plastic small confetti in 824 00:59:48,811 --> 00:59:49,881 our surface samples. 825 00:59:49,891 --> 00:59:50,511 It's everywhere. 826 00:59:51,681 --> 00:59:54,371 See if it were an island that might be better 827 00:59:54,371 --> 00:59:55,901 in a sense you can go get it you can 828 00:59:55,901 --> 00:59:58,251 go harvest this island of trash bring it back to 829 00:59:58,251 --> 00:59:59,171 land and deal with it. 830 00:59:59,311 --> 01:00:02,561 But what the reality is is this thin diffuse soup 831 01:00:02,571 --> 01:00:04,901 that we have discovered covers the entire planet. 832 01:00:06,281 --> 01:00:09,651 Other scientists were equally disturbed by the increasing amounts of 833 01:00:09,661 --> 01:00:13,731 plastic they were finding in our oceans here in Plymouth 834 01:00:13,781 --> 01:00:18,101 Professor Richard Thompson and his team found microplastics present all 835 01:00:18,101 --> 01:00:21,961 over the world curious to see exactly how plastic degraded 836 01:00:21,961 --> 01:00:22,881 in the environment. 837 01:00:22,891 --> 01:00:26,341 He carried out a number of experiments which included leaving 838 01:00:26,341 --> 01:00:28,611 plastic bags tied to moorings in the harbor. 839 01:00:29,381 --> 01:00:32,161 A year later the bags were still strong enough to 840 01:00:32,161 --> 01:00:37,071 carry shopping Here for example I've got what was heralded 841 01:00:37,071 --> 01:00:40,231 as the world's first degradable plastic bag. 842 01:00:40,241 --> 01:00:42,841 This one's been in this box since 2004. 843 01:00:42,851 --> 01:00:45,411 You can see I mean okay it has degraded in 844 01:00:45,411 --> 01:00:46,551 terms of it being a plastic bag. 845 01:00:46,551 --> 01:00:49,201 It no longer is one but it's fragments of plastic 846 01:00:49,211 --> 01:00:51,901 that aren't inherently anymore biodegradable. 847 01:00:52,081 --> 01:00:54,181 This one's been in here since 2004. 848 01:00:54,371 --> 01:00:55,471 We see the same sort of thing. 849 01:00:55,471 --> 01:00:56,851 You can still see the printing on the bag. 850 01:00:56,851 --> 01:00:59,521 But all that's happening is it's fragmenting into smaller and 851 01:00:59,521 --> 01:01:00,291 smaller bases. 852 01:01:01,171 --> 01:01:03,511 So the next pressing question was really well to what 853 01:01:03,511 --> 01:01:04,391 extent does that matter? 854 01:01:04,391 --> 01:01:07,851 Is this material causing any harm to the environment or 855 01:01:07,851 --> 01:01:08,691 to marine life? 856 01:01:09,571 --> 01:01:12,001 We looked at the log worm our Nicola marina which 857 01:01:12,001 --> 01:01:13,881 lives in the marine sediments itself. 858 01:01:13,891 --> 01:01:16,721 And that work showed that all of those organisms would 859 01:01:16,731 --> 01:01:20,861 quite readily ingest microscopic fragments of plastic. 860 01:01:20,861 --> 01:01:23,771 So we ran some longer term experiments with the common 861 01:01:23,771 --> 01:01:24,871 muscle might have a schedule. 862 01:01:25,181 --> 01:01:27,681 And what that showed was that after a single pulse 863 01:01:27,681 --> 01:01:31,471 exposure to small fragments of plastic in the laboratory Over 864 01:01:31,471 --> 01:01:34,591 48 days later having been in clean water for 47 865 01:01:34,591 --> 01:01:37,881 of those days the muscles had still got small quantities 866 01:01:37,881 --> 01:01:40,491 of plastic inside them that had been retained. 867 01:01:50,371 --> 01:01:55,551 Yeah here off the remote isle of in Scotland dr 868 01:01:55,551 --> 01:01:58,331 Phil Coe and his team suspect the shellfish they are 869 01:01:58,331 --> 01:02:00,561 about to catch in the deep water found in the 870 01:02:00,561 --> 01:02:03,441 Clyde estuary will have plastic in their stomachs. 871 01:02:06,871 --> 01:02:09,551 So this is a deepwater trawl from about 65 m 872 01:02:10,271 --> 01:02:14,161 And so we have here this is the Dublin bay 873 01:02:14,161 --> 01:02:16,991 prawn or focus is its scientific name. 874 01:02:17,471 --> 01:02:18,881 We would know as longest steam. 875 01:02:20,171 --> 01:02:21,821 So normally if you go to a restaurant you can 876 01:02:21,821 --> 01:02:24,321 have these prawns whole well you would just end up 877 01:02:24,321 --> 01:02:26,191 the tail and that's what we call scampi. 878 01:02:27,071 --> 01:02:30,381 So these are big healthy specimens and we're looking at 879 01:02:30,381 --> 01:02:33,851 them because they live in a muddy and sandy environments 880 01:02:33,851 --> 01:02:37,501 and deeper water net rocks live in burrows typically live 881 01:02:37,501 --> 01:02:41,991 in burrows in the seabed and the generalist scavenger predators 882 01:02:42,231 --> 01:02:45,601 So they will pick up dead fish than anything really 883 01:02:46,151 --> 01:02:48,711 And because of their burrowing habitat and the way they 884 01:02:48,711 --> 01:02:51,711 eat there's a potential that they'll take in plastic through 885 01:02:51,711 --> 01:02:55,301 either their prey or from the actual borrowing activities in 886 01:02:55,301 --> 01:02:55,791 the mud. 887 01:02:57,661 --> 01:03:00,921 We conducted a trial and we looked 100 20 prawns 888 01:03:00,921 --> 01:03:04,851 and we found that 83% of those contained plastic filaments 889 01:03:04,851 --> 01:03:06,161 or pieces of plastic bag. 890 01:03:08,761 --> 01:03:10,691 I think what we have to do as a society 891 01:03:10,701 --> 01:03:14,941 is realize that we are potentially having an ecological impact 892 01:03:14,941 --> 01:03:16,481 in our environment as a whole. 893 01:03:16,861 --> 01:03:20,351 That we're only just beginning to understand what those impacts 894 01:03:20,351 --> 01:03:20,671 are. 895 01:03:21,562 --> 01:03:25,122 That was but there's a second more troubling problem. 896 01:03:25,122 --> 01:03:29,002 Scientists are currently looking at not only does plastic leach 897 01:03:29,002 --> 01:03:35,982 chemicals but once in water it also attracts chemicals potentially 898 01:03:36,142 --> 01:03:40,032 making plastic even more dangerous to marine life because these 899 01:03:40,032 --> 01:03:41,712 chemicals are hydrophobic in nature. 900 01:03:41,722 --> 01:03:44,372 What will happen is they will latch onto the surface 901 01:03:44,372 --> 01:03:47,532 of solids like plastics and to give you an example 902 01:03:47,532 --> 01:03:49,352 in common terms it's a little bit like if you 903 01:03:49,582 --> 01:03:52,612 were washing up after a curry or a spaghetti bolognese 904 01:03:52,612 --> 01:03:54,792 and you've got all those red food red and yellow 905 01:03:54,792 --> 01:03:57,312 food coloring in the bowl they latch onto the side 906 01:03:57,312 --> 01:04:00,042 of your washing up bowl rather than necessarily being washed 907 01:04:00,042 --> 01:04:01,682 away in your face with cleaning them off. 908 01:04:02,462 --> 01:04:05,022 You could get orders of magnitude so thousands tens of 909 01:04:05,022 --> 01:04:08,612 1000 times greater concentration on the surface of plastic debris 910 01:04:08,812 --> 01:04:10,172 that was in the surrounding seawater. 911 01:04:11,062 --> 01:04:12,172 So that begs the question. 912 01:04:12,172 --> 01:04:14,752 Well what what happens to those chemicals in a different 913 01:04:14,862 --> 01:04:18,022 environment perhaps in the guts of a marine organisms? 914 01:04:18,032 --> 01:04:19,182 Are they released? 915 01:04:21,262 --> 01:04:27,552 So when a fish eats plastic what what does it 916 01:04:27,552 --> 01:04:28,112 in jest? 917 01:04:28,112 --> 01:04:29,922 I mean if we were to eat that fish would 918 01:04:29,922 --> 01:04:32,552 it be would we just cut out the plastic from 919 01:04:32,552 --> 01:04:33,092 its stomach? 920 01:04:33,662 --> 01:04:36,722 Well we've all grown up with this idea since it's 921 01:04:36,722 --> 01:04:39,192 part of our food delivery system that plastic is a 922 01:04:39,192 --> 01:04:39,602 nerd. 923 01:04:39,992 --> 01:04:43,482 We think of plastic as not transferring anything to the 924 01:04:43,482 --> 01:04:47,082 food because we get our milk and plastic we get 925 01:04:47,082 --> 01:04:50,822 our yogurt and plastic we get our meat in plastic 926 01:04:51,122 --> 01:04:53,702 and we really wouldn't like it if we had some 927 01:04:53,852 --> 01:04:59,512 concept that plastic was bio actively transferring chemicals to the 928 01:04:59,522 --> 01:05:03,482 food that were a problem for our body turns out 929 01:05:03,482 --> 01:05:07,222 that's actually what's occurring and in the ocean it's not 930 01:05:07,222 --> 01:05:10,562 only the compounds that have been mixed into the plastic 931 01:05:10,562 --> 01:05:13,502 at the time of manufacturer but it's the compounds that 932 01:05:13,502 --> 01:05:16,662 have been absorbed by the plastic as they float in 933 01:05:16,662 --> 01:05:17,232 the ocean. 934 01:05:18,602 --> 01:05:22,082 Many of these are capable of disrupting our hormones. 935 01:05:22,952 --> 01:05:26,042 There are so many chemicals that are being used that 936 01:05:26,052 --> 01:05:28,012 have hormone like activities. 937 01:05:28,012 --> 01:05:31,432 So it's different from toxicants that kill you. 938 01:05:31,522 --> 01:05:37,782 Just out of being toxicants here they are mimicking uh 939 01:05:38,252 --> 01:05:42,362 hormones that exist in our bodies in very small amounts 940 01:05:42,362 --> 01:05:46,072 and that they play very important roles in the way 941 01:05:46,072 --> 01:05:47,972 our organs form and function. 942 01:05:48,352 --> 01:05:52,462 Many have also been shown to suppress our immune system 943 01:05:53,132 --> 01:05:55,702 and even decreased reproductive rates. 944 01:05:56,952 --> 01:06:01,872 There is a very interesting danish study whereby the show 945 01:06:02,452 --> 01:06:06,322 that contrary to what you would think younger couples are 946 01:06:06,332 --> 01:06:09,372 more seeking hill. 947 01:06:10,152 --> 01:06:13,492 When this happens you have to think whether or not 948 01:06:13,492 --> 01:06:18,622 it's this exposure to hormone like chemicals during development that 949 01:06:18,622 --> 01:06:22,562 is causing this shift eating a lot of small fish 950 01:06:23,052 --> 01:06:25,792 A large fish becomes more polluted than each one of 951 01:06:25,792 --> 01:06:29,352 the small fish because each one of the small fish 952 01:06:29,352 --> 01:06:32,622 transfers a persistent pollutant to the large fish which it 953 01:06:32,622 --> 01:06:36,802 stores in its fatty tissue and then when we eat 954 01:06:36,802 --> 01:06:42,302 that we store the accumulated pollutants in our fatty tissue 955 01:06:42,602 --> 01:06:44,352 That's bio magnification. 956 01:06:44,352 --> 01:06:47,852 That's why killer whales the top predators in the ocean 957 01:06:47,862 --> 01:06:49,072 are the most polluted. 958 01:06:49,852 --> 01:07:02,342 They're having very difficult time reproducing at the zoological Society 959 01:07:02,342 --> 01:07:07,962 in London veterinary pathologist paul Jepson has been documenting strandings 960 01:07:07,962 --> 01:07:12,582 of whales dolphins porpoises marine turtles and basking sharks. 961 01:07:13,442 --> 01:07:16,202 He's one of only a few scientists in the world 962 01:07:16,212 --> 01:07:19,672 who's been studying the effects of pollution in marine mammals 963 01:07:19,732 --> 01:07:21,382 for over 20 years. 964 01:07:21,432 --> 01:07:25,092 And it's not good news pollutants accumulate at every level 965 01:07:25,092 --> 01:07:25,852 in the food chain. 966 01:07:25,852 --> 01:07:28,672 So in every level in that change you get an 967 01:07:28,672 --> 01:07:32,212 order of magnitude increase in the concentration of the pollutants 968 01:07:32,462 --> 01:07:35,282 When you get up to bottom those dolphins and killer 969 01:07:35,282 --> 01:07:38,442 whales then the levels are very very high and probably 970 01:07:38,442 --> 01:07:39,612 unsustainably high. 971 01:07:40,012 --> 01:07:42,662 And that's why these species are most affected. 972 01:07:43,142 --> 01:07:45,662 And so you get this big transfer from the mother 973 01:07:45,672 --> 01:07:48,472 to the firstborn particularly the first born calf. 974 01:07:48,842 --> 01:07:50,762 This big offloading of pollutants. 975 01:07:51,022 --> 01:07:53,432 But the worry is that the population declines could be 976 01:07:53,432 --> 01:07:54,472 absolutely massive. 977 01:07:55,442 --> 01:07:59,442 And actually we don't know whether these populations will actually 978 01:07:59,442 --> 01:08:01,572 recover most of the marine mammals. 979 01:08:01,572 --> 01:08:06,402 Paul has autopsied particularly killer whales have very high levels 980 01:08:06,402 --> 01:08:07,432 of toxins. 981 01:08:07,942 --> 01:08:10,492 Some of the levels we found in the animals. 982 01:08:10,492 --> 01:08:12,582 When we've done a postmortem say on a killer whale 983 01:08:12,582 --> 01:08:15,472 or dolphin they will be classed as toxic waste. 984 01:08:15,472 --> 01:08:17,322 You know you have to dispose of them as as 985 01:08:17,322 --> 01:08:18,092 hazardous waste. 986 01:08:18,092 --> 01:08:19,622 And this has been found in other parts of the 987 01:08:19,622 --> 01:08:22,622 world like innocent Lawrence Seaway with the belugas where they 988 01:08:22,622 --> 01:08:34,882 have these very highly contaminated animals releasing bad chemicals into 989 01:08:34,882 --> 01:08:37,782 the atmosphere doesn't mean they stay up in the atmosphere 990 01:08:37,882 --> 01:08:40,772 They condense into the ocean creatures in the ocean and 991 01:08:40,772 --> 01:08:42,102 then take them into their bodies. 992 01:08:42,302 --> 01:08:44,552 That starts the bio magnification process. 993 01:08:44,762 --> 01:08:47,472 This is why the whales are having difficulty reproducing. 994 01:08:47,942 --> 01:08:49,022 They're the sentinel. 995 01:08:49,022 --> 01:08:51,362 There are the canaries in the coal mine there the 996 01:08:51,742 --> 01:08:53,702 harbingers of what's going to happen to us. 997 01:08:54,772 --> 01:08:58,152 There may only be a few generations before human beings 998 01:08:58,532 --> 01:09:00,362 won't be able to reproduce. 999 01:09:00,362 --> 01:09:02,902 And plastic floating on the ocean is nature's way of 1000 01:09:02,902 --> 01:09:04,852 telling us to get after a problem. 1001 01:09:09,932 --> 01:09:10,162 No. 1002 01:09:12,192 --> 01:09:12,452 Yeah. 1003 01:09:13,832 --> 01:09:14,062 Yeah. 1004 01:09:25,932 --> 01:09:26,162 Yeah. 1005 01:09:29,032 --> 01:09:29,232 Yeah. 1006 01:09:39,132 --> 01:09:41,542 This is not about what might happen in some distant 1007 01:09:41,542 --> 01:09:42,122 future. 1008 01:09:44,932 --> 01:09:48,562 The ground beneath our feet is already full of rubbish 1009 01:09:50,612 --> 01:09:54,952 The air is tainted with manmade chemicals and our oceans 1010 01:09:54,952 --> 01:09:57,662 are turning into toxic soup of floating debris. 1011 01:09:59,232 --> 01:10:03,122 The issue of sustainability is the single biggest challenge to 1012 01:10:03,122 --> 01:10:04,382 our civilization. 1013 01:10:04,792 --> 01:10:08,052 The best place to start that change is with waste 1014 01:10:15,452 --> 01:10:16,622 Professional packaging. 1015 01:10:16,632 --> 01:10:19,672 People would have us believe that life would be impossible 1016 01:10:19,682 --> 01:10:20,752 without their services. 1017 01:10:21,932 --> 01:10:22,252 Yeah. 1018 01:10:24,432 --> 01:10:24,662 Mhm. 1019 01:10:27,732 --> 01:10:30,732 When I speak to packaging industry they say they're mainly 1020 01:10:30,732 --> 01:10:33,172 interested in getting goods safely to the market. 1021 01:10:33,632 --> 01:10:36,622 I have no objection with that except perhaps where it 1022 01:10:36,622 --> 01:10:40,042 comes into conflict with dealing with the waste at the 1023 01:10:40,042 --> 01:10:41,042 end of the lifetime. 1024 01:10:41,042 --> 01:10:43,722 And if this one's easy to recycle and that one 1025 01:10:43,722 --> 01:10:46,822 isn't then why do we need to go down this 1026 01:10:46,822 --> 01:10:50,622 route per millimeter of liquid getting to you? 1027 01:10:50,742 --> 01:10:52,592 This one is using more or less twice as much 1028 01:10:52,592 --> 01:10:55,842 plastic for a meal of drink that you consume as 1029 01:10:55,842 --> 01:10:56,332 this one. 1030 01:10:56,582 --> 01:10:58,772 So that's costing more to transport. 1031 01:10:59,012 --> 01:11:01,652 It's more petrol that's being petrochemical that's being used in 1032 01:11:01,652 --> 01:11:04,522 its manufacture its will waste to dispose of and it's 1033 01:11:04,522 --> 01:11:05,462 hard to dispose of? 1034 01:11:05,492 --> 01:11:08,782 So I really query what we're doing in some cases 1035 01:11:08,782 --> 01:11:11,562 and I think that to fully tackle this problem we 1036 01:11:11,562 --> 01:11:14,552 need to work with industry to move towards designing the 1037 01:11:14,552 --> 01:11:16,142 end of life recycling bility. 1038 01:11:17,652 --> 01:11:20,192 I met a woman who's already taken up the challenge 1039 01:11:20,822 --> 01:11:24,662 We're going and declared her own personal war on waste 1040 01:11:24,672 --> 01:11:25,762 feels fair. 1041 01:11:25,762 --> 01:11:27,792 The organic store rights. 1042 01:11:29,592 --> 01:11:32,552 We saw a picture of the turtle with the carrier 1043 01:11:32,552 --> 01:11:37,992 bag in its mouth and of an albatross who had 1044 01:11:38,682 --> 01:11:41,902 like pounds of plastic in its stomach and it consisted 1045 01:11:41,902 --> 01:11:46,462 of bottle caps cigarette lighter touch brush plastic toys stuff 1046 01:11:46,462 --> 01:11:48,362 that we were using on a daily basis. 1047 01:11:48,912 --> 01:11:52,412 And my husband saw that picture of the turtle and 1048 01:11:52,412 --> 01:11:54,912 he said we are never taking another carrier bag ever 1049 01:11:54,912 --> 01:11:55,312 again. 1050 01:11:55,592 --> 01:11:57,782 How much waste do you generate a year? 1051 01:11:57,782 --> 01:11:59,632 Have you ever worked it out last year? 1052 01:11:59,632 --> 01:12:02,622 We created a carrier bag of waste carrier bag. 1053 01:12:03,492 --> 01:12:04,502 I mean this yes. 1054 01:12:05,452 --> 01:12:09,382 Waste of landfill waste in a year. 1055 01:12:09,392 --> 01:12:12,452 How many are you And a rabbit? 1056 01:12:12,462 --> 01:12:14,112 three of you had a rabbit and the rabbit I 1057 01:12:14,112 --> 01:12:14,342 suppose. 1058 01:12:14,892 --> 01:12:17,782 But anyway that's extraordinary. 1059 01:12:17,782 --> 01:12:19,322 What about your newspapers? 1060 01:12:19,562 --> 01:12:20,442 They get recycled? 1061 01:12:22,492 --> 01:12:26,542 True waste that cannot be recycled for a whole year 1062 01:12:27,122 --> 01:12:28,602 That's absolutely amazing. 1063 01:12:28,602 --> 01:12:32,452 I would love to by purely by how you choose 1064 01:12:32,452 --> 01:12:35,552 to shop or are there other ways it starts before 1065 01:12:35,552 --> 01:12:37,682 you get to the checkout You have to make a 1066 01:12:37,692 --> 01:12:39,742 conscious decision before you hit the checkout. 1067 01:12:39,752 --> 01:12:43,682 So basically you pick something that looks nice you have 1068 01:12:43,682 --> 01:12:45,762 to ask yourself what am I going to do with 1069 01:12:45,762 --> 01:12:48,702 either this product or this packaging when I have finished 1070 01:12:48,702 --> 01:12:49,172 using it. 1071 01:12:49,492 --> 01:12:51,442 And so whereas most people perhaps turn it over to 1072 01:12:51,442 --> 01:12:52,972 look at the price we turn it over to look 1073 01:12:52,972 --> 01:12:54,352 at the recycling information. 1074 01:12:54,912 --> 01:12:57,152 This is something that lots of parents buy for their 1075 01:12:57,152 --> 01:13:00,962 kids that comes in this laminated pouch with a plastic 1076 01:13:01,312 --> 01:13:01,622 juice. 1077 01:13:01,992 --> 01:13:03,042 It's orange juice. 1078 01:13:03,042 --> 01:13:04,722 So instead of buying it in a carton that can 1079 01:13:04,732 --> 01:13:06,062 be recycled or a glass bottle. 1080 01:13:06,612 --> 01:13:08,722 This the green dots symbol. 1081 01:13:08,722 --> 01:13:09,682 You're familiar with that? 1082 01:13:10,122 --> 01:13:10,712 No I'm not. 1083 01:13:10,712 --> 01:13:12,402 I get confused in all these symbols. 1084 01:13:12,412 --> 01:13:15,302 Right Well this symbol here lots of people think that's 1085 01:13:15,302 --> 01:13:18,722 a recycling symbol but it's not a recycling symbol. 1086 01:13:18,722 --> 01:13:21,982 It means that this company has paid a certain amount 1087 01:13:21,982 --> 01:13:25,522 to to have their products recycled but the consumer cannot 1088 01:13:25,522 --> 01:13:26,742 do anything with that. 1089 01:13:27,112 --> 01:13:29,762 It's not hard to learn on a packet of cigarettes 1090 01:13:29,762 --> 01:13:30,682 that they kill you. 1091 01:13:30,962 --> 01:13:34,362 It's very clearly why isn't it clearly written on these 1092 01:13:35,312 --> 01:13:38,212 Is it just me or do other people struggle to 1093 01:13:38,212 --> 01:13:41,042 understand what they all really mean? 1094 01:13:41,712 --> 01:13:42,432 What does that mean? 1095 01:13:43,912 --> 01:13:45,142 Recycle? 1096 01:13:46,212 --> 01:13:47,682 It means that it can be recycled. 1097 01:13:47,682 --> 01:13:50,072 You think you all do a bit of shopping don't 1098 01:13:50,072 --> 01:13:50,362 you? 1099 01:13:50,942 --> 01:13:51,232 Right. 1100 01:13:51,232 --> 01:13:53,542 So I want to know what that is. 1101 01:13:53,912 --> 01:13:56,332 Do you know recyclable. 1102 01:13:57,112 --> 01:14:03,132 Don't know recyclable retractable. 1103 01:14:04,012 --> 01:14:10,402 You're all wrong but I've often wondered if it were 1104 01:14:10,402 --> 01:14:12,642 possible to do without packaging altogether. 1105 01:14:13,912 --> 01:14:17,522 Our aim is to help customers refill their own containers 1106 01:14:17,522 --> 01:14:19,432 instead of creating more packaging waste. 1107 01:14:19,812 --> 01:14:22,302 So I bring my containers here for for everything. 1108 01:14:22,312 --> 01:14:23,232 You bring your container. 1109 01:14:23,232 --> 01:14:25,022 If it's dry goods that you want you can either 1110 01:14:25,022 --> 01:14:26,752 bring a bag or if you bring a tupperware we 1111 01:14:26,752 --> 01:14:28,812 just wear it first then you just fill it up 1112 01:14:28,822 --> 01:14:30,692 It means you can buy exactly the amount you want 1113 01:14:30,692 --> 01:14:32,362 as well which means you don't waste any food. 1114 01:14:32,912 --> 01:14:35,862 If I'm a bloke and I'm sort of just didn't 1115 01:14:35,862 --> 01:14:37,862 plan to do some shopping then I would have one 1116 01:14:37,862 --> 01:14:38,672 of these would I? 1117 01:14:38,682 --> 01:14:39,262 Exactly. 1118 01:14:39,262 --> 01:14:41,472 That's exactly what I would have a little bag in 1119 01:14:41,472 --> 01:14:44,353 my pocket or in my I do actually carry a 1120 01:14:44,353 --> 01:14:48,723 bag normally and this this is just the next step 1121 01:14:48,723 --> 01:14:49,073 on. 1122 01:14:49,233 --> 01:14:51,123 Lots of people are used to going to the supermarket 1123 01:14:51,123 --> 01:14:54,203 and carrying a reusable bag to put things in. 1124 01:14:54,203 --> 01:14:56,523 So this is just the replacing the packaging to go 1125 01:14:56,523 --> 01:14:58,123 in your reusable bag is amazing. 1126 01:14:59,603 --> 01:15:02,183 When we first started we started on a market stall 1127 01:15:02,283 --> 01:15:04,593 we were given a small grant to test the idea 1128 01:15:04,593 --> 01:15:07,423 out to see if anybody was really into the refilling 1129 01:15:07,423 --> 01:15:07,943 idea. 1130 01:15:08,133 --> 01:15:09,193 And what we found. 1131 01:15:09,193 --> 01:15:11,273 And it's still true today is it takes people two 1132 01:15:11,273 --> 01:15:14,283 or three goes to remember to bring their own packaging 1133 01:15:14,283 --> 01:15:16,793 First time they forget second time they forget third time 1134 01:15:16,793 --> 01:15:20,023 they remember one thing after that it just becomes a 1135 01:15:20,023 --> 01:15:20,523 new habit. 1136 01:15:24,703 --> 01:15:27,043 Ultimately it's a good business model. 1137 01:15:27,053 --> 01:15:29,313 It's cheaper for the supplier to put something in one 1138 01:15:29,313 --> 01:15:31,343 bulk container than put it in lots of different bits 1139 01:15:31,343 --> 01:15:32,093 of packaging. 1140 01:15:32,313 --> 01:15:33,373 It's cheaper for me. 1141 01:15:33,373 --> 01:15:34,923 I should get a good margin on it and we 1142 01:15:34,923 --> 01:15:36,663 should be able to pass it on at an affordable 1143 01:15:36,663 --> 01:15:37,703 price to our customers. 1144 01:15:37,703 --> 01:15:42,233 So everybody wins and there's no environmental impact in my 1145 01:15:42,233 --> 01:15:43,003 lifetime. 1146 01:15:43,073 --> 01:15:47,843 We've become accustomed to throwing away products even food While 1147 01:15:47,843 --> 01:15:51,383 people starve and farmers are told to grow GM crops 1148 01:15:51,383 --> 01:15:53,343 to increase food production. 1149 01:15:53,713 --> 01:15:58,333 In the UK alone we throw away over ยฃ11 billion 1150 01:15:58,333 --> 01:16:00,823 pounds worth of food every year. 1151 01:16:02,703 --> 01:16:06,273 The global waste of your food is around about 1.3 1152 01:16:06,283 --> 01:16:07,923 billion tons a year. 1153 01:16:08,803 --> 01:16:10,353 Food is energy. 1154 01:16:10,513 --> 01:16:13,423 But instead of all this wasted food going into landfill 1155 01:16:13,903 --> 01:16:15,723 Couldn't we be making better use of it? 1156 01:16:16,203 --> 01:16:18,683 We built to digest in a prison in the UK 1157 01:16:18,683 --> 01:16:19,623 Guys Marsh prison. 1158 01:16:20,503 --> 01:16:24,043 And it was designed to treat the food waste that 1159 01:16:24,043 --> 01:16:26,743 was produced within the prison itself from the kitchens. 1160 01:16:27,293 --> 01:16:31,033 And it's an absolutely first rate example of a small 1161 01:16:31,033 --> 01:16:32,023 scale digester. 1162 01:16:33,403 --> 01:16:37,513 I don't understand the difference between anaerobic digestion and composting 1163 01:16:38,103 --> 01:16:39,623 So I've come to see it in action. 1164 01:16:41,503 --> 01:16:41,873 Hello. 1165 01:16:41,873 --> 01:16:42,823 So good afternoon. 1166 01:16:42,823 --> 01:16:44,423 I'm just going to give you a pat down search 1167 01:16:44,423 --> 01:16:46,483 Do you have any objections to a female doing that 1168 01:16:46,493 --> 01:16:46,943 to you? 1169 01:16:46,953 --> 01:16:48,013 It will be a pleasure. 1170 01:16:49,113 --> 01:16:49,923 My name is Lynn. 1171 01:16:52,803 --> 01:16:53,363 Thank you. 1172 01:16:53,373 --> 01:16:54,733 Just hold your hands up like that. 1173 01:16:54,743 --> 01:16:55,673 Thank you very much. 1174 01:16:59,893 --> 01:17:00,223 Mhm. 1175 01:17:00,993 --> 01:17:04,593 This digester the first to be installed in a british 1176 01:17:04,593 --> 01:17:06,303 prison is a prototype. 1177 01:17:06,993 --> 01:17:11,423 Record the weights of what we're recycling all the food 1178 01:17:11,423 --> 01:17:13,653 gets processed through the process of there. 1179 01:17:13,663 --> 01:17:15,303 So it breaks down a little bit quicker. 1180 01:17:18,093 --> 01:17:21,883 You're recreating what occurs naturally in us human beings and 1181 01:17:21,883 --> 01:17:24,693 animals who use bacteria in their guts and their stomachs 1182 01:17:24,693 --> 01:17:27,543 to digest food and turn it into energy. 1183 01:17:27,543 --> 01:17:30,293 And anaerobic digestion commercially is exactly the same. 1184 01:17:30,513 --> 01:17:34,143 Only the anaerobic digester is not flesh and bones. 1185 01:17:34,153 --> 01:17:37,113 It is concrete tanks and metal tanks and it is 1186 01:17:37,113 --> 01:17:37,983 a pump system. 1187 01:17:38,113 --> 01:17:40,223 What comes out is exactly the same. 1188 01:17:40,673 --> 01:17:42,873 Its energy its energy in the form of a methane 1189 01:17:42,873 --> 01:17:45,833 rich biogas and it is a solid and a liquid 1190 01:17:45,833 --> 01:17:49,723 fertilizer which can be used on the land to replace 1191 01:17:50,143 --> 01:17:51,323 Inorganic fertilizers. 1192 01:17:51,653 --> 01:17:54,773 What does this save you a year to save. 1193 01:17:54,773 --> 01:17:57,993 And just for the food waste it's about ยฃ18,000 a 1194 01:17:57,993 --> 01:17:58,263 year. 1195 01:17:58,273 --> 01:18:01,293 And the cost of running this is fairly minimal. 1196 01:18:01,293 --> 01:18:01,813 It's minimal. 1197 01:18:01,813 --> 01:18:02,003 Yeah. 1198 01:18:02,013 --> 01:18:03,873 Once you've set it up there's no charge at all 1199 01:18:03,873 --> 01:18:04,223 really. 1200 01:18:05,693 --> 01:18:07,223 So that's saving the taxpayer. 1201 01:18:08,793 --> 01:18:09,023 Mhm. 1202 01:18:09,793 --> 01:18:12,043 Because backwards we'll let you go first jeremy in another 1203 01:18:12,043 --> 01:18:20,833 case Jeremy nice to meet you. 1204 01:18:20,843 --> 01:18:21,943 Thanks very much. 1205 01:18:22,283 --> 01:18:24,163 So this is the compost. 1206 01:18:24,173 --> 01:18:25,403 How long has this been here? 1207 01:18:25,513 --> 01:18:27,473 This compost has been here about 10 days. 1208 01:18:27,523 --> 01:18:29,623 Maturing days and it's covered in. 1209 01:18:29,993 --> 01:18:32,213 Look at the flies and how much longer will it 1210 01:18:32,213 --> 01:18:32,843 stay here. 1211 01:18:32,873 --> 01:18:35,783 This will stay here about another 20 days and being 1212 01:18:35,783 --> 01:18:39,773 constantly turned so that the heat is generated stream coming 1213 01:18:39,773 --> 01:18:41,643 up and feel the heat to make sure everything is 1214 01:18:41,643 --> 01:18:45,533 working fantastic stuff and it's beginning to smell good. 1215 01:18:45,543 --> 01:18:49,363 Yes it smells better than that smelled in those tanks 1216 01:18:50,293 --> 01:18:51,473 Do the prisoners work on this? 1217 01:18:51,713 --> 01:18:53,883 Yes the prisoners work within the area and they work 1218 01:18:53,883 --> 01:18:54,933 within the tunnels. 1219 01:18:55,883 --> 01:18:57,983 Obviously some of them have never done this before. 1220 01:18:57,983 --> 01:18:59,943 We try to teach them you know where their food 1221 01:18:59,943 --> 01:19:00,693 is coming from. 1222 01:19:00,903 --> 01:19:03,613 I've never understood why we don't do this in this 1223 01:19:03,613 --> 01:19:08,693 country why we import stuff why we don't grow under 1224 01:19:08,703 --> 01:19:10,533 in these tunnels all the year round. 1225 01:19:10,533 --> 01:19:12,273 We could grow up so much more. 1226 01:19:12,483 --> 01:19:15,203 Yes we could perhaps times will change and we will 1227 01:19:15,983 --> 01:19:16,643 thank you very much. 1228 01:19:16,643 --> 01:19:17,503 It's been a great pleasure. 1229 01:19:17,923 --> 01:19:20,003 Wouldn't it be wonderful if this could be put into 1230 01:19:20,003 --> 01:19:21,593 practice on a large scale? 1231 01:19:22,193 --> 01:19:26,503 I'm told that managing resources more efficiently could save the 1232 01:19:26,503 --> 01:19:29,493 UK economy ยฃ6.. 1233 01:19:30,063 --> 01:19:31,503 pounds every year. 1234 01:19:33,083 --> 01:19:37,043 If we put our minds to it 17 million tons 1235 01:19:37,043 --> 01:19:41,783 of waste could be diverted from landfills and incinerators potentially 1236 01:19:41,783 --> 01:19:44,443 saving us millions more in raw materials. 1237 01:19:45,683 --> 01:19:48,513 Imagine if that happened on a global scale. 1238 01:19:57,893 --> 01:20:00,413 The city of SAN Francisco has been leading the way 1239 01:20:00,413 --> 01:20:06,243 in recycling for years 75% of its homes and businesses 1240 01:20:06,253 --> 01:20:13,123 participating in the city's zero waste initiative San Francisco established 1241 01:20:13,123 --> 01:20:16,213 a zero waste goal back in 2002 because land filling 1242 01:20:16,213 --> 01:20:20,483 waste is a total waste of resources and we really 1243 01:20:20,493 --> 01:20:24,053 kind of piggybacked on an emerging international movement for Zero 1244 01:20:24,053 --> 01:20:28,293 Waste we can't just keep extracting resources from the earth 1245 01:20:28,303 --> 01:20:31,463 We have to utilize the limited resources that we have 1246 01:20:31,523 --> 01:20:34,323 we have a three stream collection system that we have 1247 01:20:34,323 --> 01:20:37,363 provided to all residents whether they're in single family or 1248 01:20:37,363 --> 01:20:40,913 an apartment buildings all types of businesses not just restaurants 1249 01:20:40,913 --> 01:20:43,343 but high rise office buildings retail. 1250 01:20:43,533 --> 01:20:45,813 And that's the foundation of our program. 1251 01:20:48,783 --> 01:20:52,343 We have now made it mandatory in SAN Francisco for 1252 01:20:52,343 --> 01:20:56,033 everyone to participate in the program from single family residence 1253 01:20:56,033 --> 01:20:59,513 to apartment dwellers to all types of businesses and even 1254 01:20:59,513 --> 01:21:00,183 visitors. 1255 01:21:00,193 --> 01:21:03,613 So technically as a visitor SAN Francisco you are legally 1256 01:21:03,613 --> 01:21:09,273 obligated to participate in our source separation as part of 1257 01:21:09,273 --> 01:21:12,193 its radical approach the city believes in working closely with 1258 01:21:12,193 --> 01:21:18,853 its businesses This is recycled central and it's a 200,000 1259 01:21:18,853 --> 01:21:21,833 square foot building where all of the recyclables from San 1260 01:21:21,833 --> 01:21:23,203 Francisco come to get sorted. 1261 01:21:23,573 --> 01:21:26,653 The bulldozers put it up on those conveyors conveyors go 1262 01:21:26,653 --> 01:21:30,413 up 30 ft onto the conveyor belt where our ecologies 1263 01:21:30,413 --> 01:21:33,373 employees are there to either hand sort it or there's 1264 01:21:33,373 --> 01:21:36,243 machines like there's a magnet that pulls out the metal 1265 01:21:36,483 --> 01:21:40,363 and then our employees also hand sort the glass we 1266 01:21:40,363 --> 01:21:43,533 only hire folks from the local communities all of our 1267 01:21:43,533 --> 01:21:46,383 employees that work here are union employees and they're paid 1268 01:21:46,383 --> 01:21:49,933 very well and we have full benefits full benefits and 1269 01:21:49,933 --> 01:21:50,603 a pension. 1270 01:21:51,533 --> 01:21:52,263 That's fantastic. 1271 01:21:52,263 --> 01:21:54,443 So you've got people queuing up to work here actually 1272 01:21:54,443 --> 01:21:56,943 we do and we had our last open call for 1273 01:21:56,953 --> 01:21:58,793 jobs alignment around the block. 1274 01:22:00,373 --> 01:22:02,443 People get bored with working here they work here for 1275 01:22:02,443 --> 01:22:02,913 a long time. 1276 01:22:02,923 --> 01:22:04,333 People work here for a long time. 1277 01:22:04,333 --> 01:22:06,573 I've been here for 11 years and I'm still considered 1278 01:22:06,573 --> 01:22:07,273 a new timer. 1279 01:22:07,283 --> 01:22:09,253 We have we have guys that have worked here for 1280 01:22:09,253 --> 01:22:11,043 30 years 2030 years. 1281 01:22:11,053 --> 01:22:12,493 It's a really good job. 1282 01:22:15,973 --> 01:22:18,303 Tell me about about what are you doing here? 1283 01:22:18,303 --> 01:22:18,883 What's this stuff? 1284 01:22:19,973 --> 01:22:25,913 Bridget and what happened voters the bill into bells and 1285 01:22:25,913 --> 01:22:26,793 then we ship it over. 1286 01:22:28,773 --> 01:22:29,663 Where is this perspective? 1287 01:22:29,963 --> 01:22:32,353 This will probably go to china and they'll make it 1288 01:22:32,353 --> 01:22:35,493 into new products that we in turn buy back Right 1289 01:22:36,073 --> 01:22:38,523 So a lot of the materials that come from china 1290 01:22:38,523 --> 01:22:42,013 in the shipping containers come over here those containers we're 1291 01:22:42,013 --> 01:22:48,163 going back empty now they're going back with material as 1292 01:22:48,163 --> 01:22:51,313 well as using anaerobic digestion here in san Francisco. 1293 01:22:51,313 --> 01:22:54,183 They make compost on a truly industrial scale. 1294 01:22:55,863 --> 01:22:58,243 Farmers are sharp when they look and see that the 1295 01:22:58,243 --> 01:23:00,483 crops look better where we've used compost. 1296 01:23:00,483 --> 01:23:03,473 Then they start to use compost it's quite affordable and 1297 01:23:03,473 --> 01:23:06,423 it gives them back a higher quality of produce and 1298 01:23:06,423 --> 01:23:10,293 better yields and less soil erosion all adding up to 1299 01:23:10,663 --> 01:23:14,393 a return to the farm in stopping the waste of 1300 01:23:14,393 --> 01:23:15,173 organic matter. 1301 01:23:15,963 --> 01:23:18,963 We stopped that organic matter from going into the dumps 1302 01:23:18,973 --> 01:23:22,063 and by doing this we stop the production of methane 1303 01:23:22,073 --> 01:23:22,893 out of the dump. 1304 01:23:23,003 --> 01:23:25,593 We also stop the filling up of the of the 1305 01:23:25,593 --> 01:23:28,223 landfill by materials that are valuable for us on the 1306 01:23:28,223 --> 01:23:28,703 farm. 1307 01:23:28,793 --> 01:23:30,393 So there's a dual benefit. 1308 01:23:30,943 --> 01:23:33,863 There are hundreds of businesses and farms using san Francisco's 1309 01:23:33,863 --> 01:23:34,533 compost. 1310 01:23:34,973 --> 01:23:37,403 I just happened to have chosen to visit a vineyard 1311 01:23:37,543 --> 01:23:38,573 in the napa valley. 1312 01:23:39,463 --> 01:23:41,623 You know we're adding what we think is the right 1313 01:23:41,623 --> 01:23:46,673 amount maintain the integrity of the soils soils are like 1314 01:23:46,673 --> 01:23:50,393 a bang and your crop is like taking when you 1315 01:23:50,403 --> 01:23:51,273 take your crop off. 1316 01:23:51,273 --> 01:23:53,893 It's like taking withdrawal from a bank where you have 1317 01:23:53,893 --> 01:23:55,403 to make deposits. 1318 01:23:55,663 --> 01:23:58,483 And so the compost for us is a deposit. 1319 01:23:58,493 --> 01:24:01,343 We're replenishing what we're taking out of the soil. 1320 01:24:06,663 --> 01:24:10,503 You know everything we do is geared towards maintaining the 1321 01:24:10,503 --> 01:24:11,853 health of our soils. 1322 01:24:11,853 --> 01:24:13,493 That's the most important thing. 1323 01:24:15,233 --> 01:24:17,533 It might cost a little bit more but it's so 1324 01:24:17,533 --> 01:24:18,793 worth it in the long run. 1325 01:24:19,463 --> 01:24:23,213 You know the last thing I want is chateau Montelena 1326 01:24:23,213 --> 01:24:25,503 wines to change for the worst. 1327 01:24:25,503 --> 01:24:28,193 Under my watch that wouldn't be good. 1328 01:24:28,203 --> 01:24:30,093 I think we've got to taste something. 1329 01:24:30,103 --> 01:24:44,383 I think we should Ananda lee town is part of 1330 01:24:44,383 --> 01:24:48,573 a global movement of hundreds of grassroots organizations all advocating 1331 01:24:48,573 --> 01:24:50,583 the benefits of Zero waste. 1332 01:24:51,263 --> 01:24:53,653 The story that we try to tell is that it's 1333 01:24:53,653 --> 01:24:56,983 really grassroots communities that have been winning this battle have 1334 01:24:56,993 --> 01:25:00,223 been protecting the planet for future generations and often with 1335 01:25:00,223 --> 01:25:01,313 very few resources. 1336 01:25:02,053 --> 01:25:05,153 The importance of getting broader public support is is not 1337 01:25:05,153 --> 01:25:08,213 only about shutting these toxic facilities but really about creating 1338 01:25:08,213 --> 01:25:10,393 more democratic governance over industry. 1339 01:25:10,393 --> 01:25:13,043 That's really out to destroy both public health and the 1340 01:25:13,053 --> 01:25:13,493 planet. 1341 01:25:13,493 --> 01:25:17,083 And and how can we help facilitate that so that 1342 01:25:17,233 --> 01:25:20,033 communities can also empower themselves to organize and force their 1343 01:25:20,033 --> 01:25:21,273 local governments to change. 1344 01:25:21,753 --> 01:25:24,223 It's wrong to both bury and burn waste when we 1345 01:25:24,223 --> 01:25:27,533 can recycle over 90% of the waste that is generated 1346 01:25:27,533 --> 01:25:32,383 in this country recycling conserves 3 to 5 times the 1347 01:25:32,383 --> 01:25:35,723 amount of energy that incineration projects or even latin for 1348 01:25:35,723 --> 01:25:37,653 gas to energy projects generates. 1349 01:25:37,743 --> 01:25:41,233 What's more important perhaps is the amount of climate pollution 1350 01:25:41,263 --> 01:25:43,803 associated with that energy that we reduce. 1351 01:25:43,803 --> 01:25:46,123 If we recycled everything that is currently being buried or 1352 01:25:46,123 --> 01:25:47,903 burned in the US it would be like taking half 1353 01:25:47,903 --> 01:25:50,403 the cars of US roads that's the amount of climate 1354 01:25:50,403 --> 01:25:51,523 pollution we would reduce. 1355 01:25:51,723 --> 01:25:56,343 If we actually reach those very achievable targets jobs are 1356 01:25:56,343 --> 01:25:58,583 obviously created by incinerators. 1357 01:25:58,593 --> 01:26:01,453 How do the amount of jobs compare with those in 1358 01:26:01,453 --> 01:26:02,103 recycling? 1359 01:26:02,233 --> 01:26:05,823 So here in the US studies have shown that 10 1360 01:26:05,823 --> 01:26:08,494 times the number of jobs can be created by recycling 1361 01:26:08,494 --> 01:26:11,814 and composting the same amount of waste or tonnage of 1362 01:26:11,814 --> 01:26:15,624 waste that is buried or burnt in incinerators and landfills 1363 01:26:15,774 --> 01:26:19,014 for example here in the US there are currently about 1364 01:26:19,064 --> 01:26:22,074 800,000 jobs within the recycling industry. 1365 01:26:22,454 --> 01:26:27,104 However in the US we only recycle 33% of our 1366 01:26:27,104 --> 01:26:29,874 waste even if we were to achieve 75% and get 1367 01:26:29,874 --> 01:26:33,734 to where San Francisco has gotten across this country we 1368 01:26:33,734 --> 01:26:37,874 would be creating 1.5 million new jobs in recycling. 1369 01:26:39,014 --> 01:26:43,134 Einstein once said a clever man solves a problem A 1370 01:26:43,134 --> 01:26:44,874 wise man avoids it. 1371 01:26:45,934 --> 01:26:48,424 The engineer is trying to address a problem given the 1372 01:26:48,434 --> 01:26:51,854 amount of waste what we have to do is to 1373 01:26:51,854 --> 01:26:53,624 stop making that amount of waste. 1374 01:26:53,624 --> 01:26:54,974 We have to find other ways. 1375 01:26:55,744 --> 01:26:59,184 Well we continue to attack the problem by just saying 1376 01:26:59,184 --> 01:27:00,524 okay we've got a solution here. 1377 01:27:00,524 --> 01:27:02,814 It is we burn everything we're not going to make 1378 01:27:02,814 --> 01:27:03,424 progress. 1379 01:27:04,764 --> 01:27:07,764 We did it with smoking a smoking ban and there 1380 01:27:07,764 --> 01:27:09,804 were the naysayers you know it'll never work it'll be 1381 01:27:09,804 --> 01:27:12,494 a real problem but it was clearly understood what the 1382 01:27:12,494 --> 01:27:13,114 goals were. 1383 01:27:13,114 --> 01:27:15,684 The timetable was set there was a methodology to get 1384 01:27:15,694 --> 01:27:18,514 through that process and then the date came and off 1385 01:27:18,514 --> 01:27:20,264 we went and we had to stop we did it 1386 01:27:20,274 --> 01:27:21,724 with seat belts and wearing seatbelts. 1387 01:27:21,724 --> 01:27:24,404 We did it with drink driving actually when that became 1388 01:27:24,404 --> 01:27:28,914 unacceptable because the consequences were made plane we need to 1389 01:27:28,914 --> 01:27:30,064 do this with waste. 1390 01:27:32,244 --> 01:27:36,184 I'm not saying that zero waste is easy but the 1391 01:27:36,264 --> 01:27:38,654 problems that you have to overcome with land filling and 1392 01:27:38,654 --> 01:27:42,454 the problems that you overcome with incineration when you've overcome 1393 01:27:42,454 --> 01:27:46,684 them you've still gone in the wrong direction 25 years 1394 01:27:46,684 --> 01:27:49,644 from now you will need no closer to sustainability. 1395 01:27:49,824 --> 01:27:53,594 Whereas all the problems that we have to overcome with 1396 01:27:53,594 --> 01:27:57,424 zero waste it's worth doing because we know we're going 1397 01:27:57,424 --> 01:28:01,024 in the right direction we're saving resources for our Children 1398 01:28:01,544 --> 01:28:05,744 and we're reducing the contamination and we're moving towards sustainable 1399 01:28:12,054 --> 01:28:14,964 When I get the feeling we're at a tipping point 1400 01:28:17,414 --> 01:28:20,374 all over the world I've met small pockets of people 1401 01:28:20,384 --> 01:28:25,384 who have already changed but now it's up to all 1402 01:28:25,384 --> 01:28:25,664 of us. 1403 01:28:28,544 --> 01:28:31,384 Look at that how can you shut down the work 1404 01:28:31,384 --> 01:28:34,774 that not just you and me with our plastic bags 1405 01:28:34,774 --> 01:28:38,094 and I'll throw away cups lighters pen lids and our 1406 01:28:38,104 --> 01:28:43,544 take away toys not just the corporation shipping food back 1407 01:28:43,544 --> 01:28:48,004 and forth across the planet piling it high covering it 1408 01:28:48,004 --> 01:28:50,474 in plastic and throwing it away at the end of 1409 01:28:53,494 --> 01:28:56,344 and not just the packaging people and the pr promoters 1410 01:28:56,354 --> 01:28:58,934 telling everyone including themselves that if it looks good it 1411 01:28:58,934 --> 01:28:59,754 must be good. 1412 01:29:02,344 --> 01:29:05,964 And not just the politicians with their lack of political 1413 01:29:05,974 --> 01:29:10,394 courage their inability to stand up and say this surely 1414 01:29:10,404 --> 01:29:19,234 must end But all of Mhm. 1415 01:29:20,234 --> 01:29:20,564 Mhm. 1416 01:29:32,634 --> 01:29:32,844 Mhm. 1417 01:29:35,034 --> 01:29:35,564 Mhm. 1418 01:29:39,334 --> 01:29:40,254 Mhm. 1419 01:29:40,634 --> 01:29:40,954 Mhm. 1420 01:30:21,834 --> 01:30:22,204 Yeah. 1421 01:30:23,234 --> 01:30:25,354 Yeah. 1422 01:30:33,134 --> 01:30:41,494 No because we are trashing our planet and it's time 1423 01:30:41,494 --> 01:30:42,054 to stop. 1424 01:30:44,834 --> 01:30:45,154 Yeah. 1425 01:30:53,724 --> 01:30:53,954 Mhm. 1426 01:30:55,824 --> 01:30:56,034 Mhm. 1427 01:31:03,824 --> 01:31:05,044 Mhm. 1428 01:31:07,524 --> 01:31:07,754 Okay. 1429 01:31:12,624 --> 01:31:12,854 Yeah. 1430 01:31:13,624 --> 01:31:13,954 Mhm. 1431 01:31:15,524 --> 01:31:15,944 Okay. 1432 01:31:17,724 --> 01:31:17,954 Yeah. 1433 01:31:19,124 --> 01:31:19,354 Mhm. 1434 01:32:01,524 --> 01:32:01,754 Thank you. 1435 01:32:04,024 --> 01:32:04,284 Yeah. 1436 01:32:22,724 --> 01:32:22,954 Right. 1437 01:32:23,424 --> 01:32:24,954 Uh No. 1438 01:32:33,124 --> 01:32:33,444 Yeah. 1439 01:32:35,024 --> 01:32:35,254 Mhm. 1440 01:32:48,324 --> 01:32:48,534 Mhm. 1441 01:32:54,514 --> 01:32:54,744 Yeah 112090

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