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Mhm.
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Okay okay wow.
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Yeah.
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From space it's hard to
see any evidence of mankind
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on earth.
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All the effects were having
on our planet's finite resources
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from up here it looks
perfect.
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It's only when we look
more closely that we start
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to see some of the
results of our consumption.
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Thanks particularly the one that's
rarely talked about waste.
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Mhm.
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I've always enjoyed beachcombing and
as a child I would
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search for sea glass.
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It's a wood.
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But in the 50 years
since then things have changed
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The treasure I used to
find in the sand has
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been replaced by trash.
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I want to know why
No one knows exactly how
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much rubbish we produce.
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What we do know Is
that the seven billion of
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us were making more garbage
now any other time in
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history but does anyone know
what happens to it all
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How it's affecting the land
the air the seas and
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ultimately us historically we've always
buried our track but it
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seems that now we sometimes
don't dig.
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We just dump Since 1975
waste from the ancient Lebanese
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City of Cider now a
suburb of Beirut has been
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brought here to an uncontrolled
dump on the edge of
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the city Over 80 tons
of it every day.
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What was a sandy beach
has been replaced by a
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trash mountain Well over 40
m in height as the
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rubbish decomposes chemicals leach into
the ground While methane.
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A pernicious greenhouse gas regularly
blows over the city's nearly
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200,000 inhabitants and the tumbling
trash and liquid runoff flows
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directly into the sea affecting
the local fishermen and their
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livelihood this is not just
a local problem because over
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there is italy up there
is Cyprus.
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Syria's next door and north
of Syria is the Turkish
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coast.
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And there have been complaints
from all those countries about
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the garbage that floats up
onto their beaches much of
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which comes from this garbage
mountain here rubbish pickers arrived
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for the day shift looking
for ways to sell for
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recycling and the putrid mounds.
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No one was willing to
talk to me about working
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here except one a refugee
from Palestine.
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When you started here 35
years ago this rubbish mountain
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didn't exist.
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You've seen it grow.
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He thought it could have
been toxic waste.
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Efforts have been made to
clean up this dump Including
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a $5 million prince.
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I struggled to see much
result but it's not just
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about these extreme situations.
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Waste is everywhere at ever
increasing levels.
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We produce too much waste.
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We've become profligate by nature.
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We've learned that it's ok
to waste.
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We don't think about the
consequences when we throw stuff
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away.
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We're seeing an effect on
pollution possibly effect on global
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warming.
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You don't have to be
a rocket scientist to know
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that you cannot have infinite
growth against finite resources every
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year we throw away 200
billion plastic bottle 58 billion
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disposable cups and billions of
plastic bags.
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The okay this is appalling
mm here in Britain where
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I live we have the
most landfill sites in europe
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80% of the population live
within two km of one
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And although government policy say
they should be used as
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the last resort for most
waste This one in Yorkshire
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is expanding.
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There is the Welbeck toxic
tip.
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If you look slightly to
the right you can see
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the school that's built just
one field away from the
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edge of the tip.
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In between.
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Believe it or not They
are now going to place
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3000 houses.
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So with a school and
hospital in the city center
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all within that close proximity
to one of England's largest
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toxic tips standing at an
incredible 62 m in height
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it looks set to become
one of the tallest piles
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of trash in the world
landfills in europe.
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Unlike many other places in
the world are controlled and
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must be checked regularly to
ensure they don't breach their
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licenses and permits this one.
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However breeches with monotonous regularity
four a former miner turned
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campaigner initially became concerned about
this landfill in order to
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stop it being built on
an area of historic interest
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but it was to be
the first of many battles
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The stench is horrendous.
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You could not put a
baby outside on the lawn
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flies flies phenomenal.
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We actually mounted a private
prosecution against the firm for
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the flyers because the environment
agency wouldn't in our conservatory
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we've had as many as
3 to 4000 flies paul
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feels the british authorities and
government agencies are complacent and
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don't do enough to safeguard
the health of the community
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only once as the environment
agency prosecuted.
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And those site owners have
never ever once taking this
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company to court over the
breaches of their lease documentation
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paul however has been taken
to court on numerous occasions
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earning him two lifetime injunctions
for his efforts.
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The judge said to me
I will take every penny
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you've got I will take
your house away from you
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and you will go directly
to jail if you show
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any documentation or go on
that tip again the waste
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industry in this country are
so rich that they can
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afford to employ universities to
prove that things and common
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sense.
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An official from the environment
agency who investigated this particular
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landfill wrote that monitoring left
much to be desired.
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His report concluded Accepting the
EA's views that this is
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one of the better regulated
of some 2500 active landfill
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sites in England and Wales.
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What does that say for
the rest all over the
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world landfills are filling up
fast in some places like
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Beijing space for waste to
simply run out.
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Over the past decade 14
dumps around New York have
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reached capacity.
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Society produces lots of waste.
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We're all part of the
problem.
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If you went back 150
years you'd find that the
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waste stream consisted mainly of
natural products.
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So it would be paper
wood products animal products wool
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the fibers cotton wool were
all naturally produced.
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What's happened in that intervening
time 150 years is that
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the the waste stream has
become progressively more toxic.
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So we've seen increasing levels
of heavy metals radioactive substances
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synthetic plastics.
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So 150 years ago you
could have taken away stream
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you could have stuck it
in the hole in the
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ground and it would have
rotted and there would not
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have really been many long
term consequences.
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Now if you want to
go looking at a modern
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waste tip you need to
be very careful.
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They're actually quite poisonous but
even when they're closed down
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they still cause problems Although
most new sites have a
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layer of clay spread beneath
the liner which both act
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as a barrier to stop
chemicals leaching into the groundwater
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It seems this method is
flawed and that all barriers
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will ultimately fail.
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Making dumps a potential threat
for hundreds of years.
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In 2008 a major land
slip unearthed an old landfill
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on Dorsett's World Heritage Jurassic
coastline spewing rubbish down the
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cliff face and onto the
beach below.
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But with no definitive landfill
maps no one can predict
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where or how coastal erosion
and rising tides will affect
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old sites wherever in the
world they are.
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Nature functions by building up
and breaking down building up
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and breaking down anything that
goes out into the environment
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which is made by nature
is built up and broken
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down.
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built up and broken down.
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And we've had hiccups with
our civilization because we keep
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putting things into the environment
that don't break down.
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Even the best managed and
closely monitored landfills still cause
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problems.
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This one in Gloucestershire in
the heart of the Cotswnolds
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is no exception.
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Licensed to take 150,000 tons
of hazardous waste a year
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It's one of the most
toxic dumps in europe.
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This is the only way
you can get to see
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it.
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It is really without trespassing
yep and there we have
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it in all its glory
it's enormous.
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This is Brandon's hazardous waste
landfill and what's he going
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to be filled with?
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It's going to be filled
with a mixture fairly innocuous
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things like paints and varnishes
solvents but the ones that
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were ears are things that
have been produced by combustion
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particularly municipal waste.
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What is shocking is the
quantities that are coming here
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And the location because 15,000
people live within three km
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of that whole and the
wind most commonly blows across
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the site in that direction
towards the village you can
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see the spire in the
village of Bishop's Cleeve there
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and the method that is
used is incredibly primitive.
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The waste material is mixed
with liquid in these silos
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before being spread on the
landfill so as to prevent
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toxic dust from escaping and
being blown onto nearby land
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and houses mix it up
with from the landfill that
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is all of the liquid
that drains off at the
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bottom of the landfill everything
rots down and lead.
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It's the substance that comes
down and we know That
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there is chromium six.
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We know that there is
cadmium and a whole load
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of other heavy metals in
there which are really dangerous
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to human health.
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It's outrageous.
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The local residents were so
worried by the toxic dust
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clouds clouds.
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The operators of the site
have maintained neither drifted nor
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even existed that they started
an investigation along with the
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residents findings.
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Government agencies also discovered the
dust outside the landfill but
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came to the conclusion it
was unlikely to be associated
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with a significant risk to
health.
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The owner of the field
next to the landfill gave
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me permission to take a
sample of soil and tested
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for toxins.
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Mark spots Into a square
at 10 m by 10
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m right?
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2 3 4 5 6.
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It was important to do
this in a scientific way
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four samples from the century
Accumulate The eight sub samples
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It's the middle of that.
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Where's the stick?
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I've lost my stick.
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See what's impossible.
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I have to put the
sticks up where I mean
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a flag would have been
more useful.
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Others must be over here.
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I've done that one.
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We are free of as
much as we can.
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There's a bit of rooted
in there.
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But their reality that I
think back to my time
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at school I was hopeless
except for growing mold on
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old food.
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I was very good at
that.
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The samples I took revealed
elevated levels of 17 toxic
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chemicals in the soil.
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When the Health Protection Agency
analyzed their own dust samples
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they too found toxins present.
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But once again concluded they
were unlikely to be associated
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with a significant risk to
health.
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Yet other independent soil analysis
found levels of toxins many
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1000 times higher.
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Yet a major study of
21 hazardous waste landfill sites
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in five countries found that
living within three km of
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any of them was associated
with a significantly raised risk
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of congenital anomalies.
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birth defects to you and
me.
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But like almost every report
on the health effects of
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landfills including those that found
increased cases of cancer.
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This one also ends by
calling for nothing but further
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research no matter who you
believe there's no doubt landfills
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are damaging to the environment.
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And although all the studies
say there's not enough evidence
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to prove conclusively that they
damage health it's obvious to
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me that the land filling
of rubbish needs to be
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reduced.
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Significa the question is what
do we do instead with
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the need to reduce the
amount of waste dumped in
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the ground burning?
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What we no longer need
seems like the perfect solution
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Although incineration is generally more
expensive than land filling.
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It's the most widely used
alternative.
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There are no records of
the exact number of municipal
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incinerators in the world.
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But there are thought to
be about 800.
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Some reports say there could
be as many as 469
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in Japan alone and in
the UK We do know
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that there are 30 with
planning applications to build over
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90 more incinerators are designed
to burn rubbish at very
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high temperatures converting it into
gas ash heat and electricity
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The newer ones are being
promoted as a potential green
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energy solution and indeed are
no longer called incinerators.
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They're now known as waste
to energy plants.
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But as with landfill there
are hazards associated with incineration
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toxic chemicals escaping into the
environment.
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In developed countries.
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They are subject to strict
monitoring to ensure the design
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operation and maintenance of these
facilities provide maximum safety reducing
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the risk to the surrounding
environ.
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However some scientists have been
campaigning actively against incineration One
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of them for over 20
years.
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I first got involved when
the librarian asked me to
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look at the issue of
incineration because they were building
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or wanted to build an
incinerator in our county.
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And at first I thought
it was a good idea
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You get rid of all
the terrible landfills you make
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energy at the same time
you get rid of.
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You only got one facility
to monitor.
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It looked like a good
idea.
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She says well you better
read these and it was
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papers from barry commoner that
talked about the dioxin issue
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and it didn't take me
long to realize that this
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was a crazy idea.
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I've come to Iceland to
the remote town of capital
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of the west fjords to
meet residents concerned about emissions
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from the incinerator used to
burn their rubbish Built in
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1994 at Great Expense to
the local community.
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This incinerator called funny meaning
fire in Icelandic was recently
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shut down after its chemical
emissions were found to be
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too high incinerators at the
bottom of a fjord and
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the weather here is very
still so it doesn't go
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anywhere the smoke goes up
and it falls down.
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What we know is that
there are certain generic problems
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with incineration.
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The level of safety that
is offered is totally dependent
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on the engineering and totally
dependent on it working perfectly
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all the time.
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And it's a very very
challenging environment inside and incinerated
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very high temperature very hot
acidic gasses experience tells us
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that they don't work perfectly
all the time.
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Tons of waste went through
this every week.
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The dioxin levels were found
to be way too high
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and nobody wants to be
contaminated basically because it's it's
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a it causes all sorts
of diseases like cancer and
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if it builds up in
the body.
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Although dioxins and other chemicals
are already to be found
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in our environment created by
combustion manufacturing processes forest fires
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and volcanoes which Iceland isn't
short of.
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It's the manmade halogen ated
ones produced by burning certain
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types of rubbish which caused
concern.
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Dioxins are compounds that are
made from carbon like we
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are but they've got some
extra bits stuck on.
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These are chlorine or bromine
molecules and they do not
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occur naturally in mainstream chemistry
of life.
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Now the problem with these
compounds is that a they
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tend to persist.
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I we don't have life
does not have the enzymes
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and things to be able
to break them down.
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But if you set fire
to them you start to
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produce a set of compounds
which are very toxic.
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The dioxins are one example
there are many many others
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but the most toxic of
them are the dioxins which
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is why they get so
much attention.
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In 1997 all European incinerators
were required to have strict
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pollution controls.
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But the sophisticated filters needed
to capture the pollutants aren't
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cheap.
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These are the new ones
added to funny in order
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to make it comply.
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So here we are around
the side there's a chimney
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obviously they bought this huge
great filter which was hugely
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expensive and it worked very
well for about a few
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months and then it stopped
working and to buy new
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filters enormously expensive but eventually
they did and that worked
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again brilliantly and then stopped
working.
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It's a bit like the
bags costing more than the
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vacuum cleaner.
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And then finally four years
after they originally invested in
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this they stopped using it
because they couldn't afford to
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use it.
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But regardless of how effective
the filters are at capturing
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these toxins.
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The fact remains all incinerators
produce ash which still has
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to be disposed of basically
there's two ashes that were
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concerned about.
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There's the bottom ash which
is the ash which falls
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through the grates just like
in the fireplace.
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That's the ash from the
furnace.
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And then we have the
fly ash which is essentially
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the tiny particles which we
capture in the air pollution
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control devices very fine materials.
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The bottom ash is about
90% in the fly ash
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is about 10%.
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The bottom ash is toxic
and the fly Ash is
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extremely toxic.
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It has toxic metals dioxins
furans and so on.
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It's been estimated that between
50 and 80% of the
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total dioxin contamination of the
planet has been caused by
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the incineration of waste B
A.
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Clinical waste or municipal waste.
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So now they claim of
course that well we've modified
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these machines but they only
ever talk about what goes
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out to air and there's
loads being produced in the
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ash and that's being used
to make breeze blocks for
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your house and sweep it
under the carpet.
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Get rid of it.
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But the basic problem has
not gone away.
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This small incinerator was emitting
unacceptably high levels of dioxins
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which were found to be
entering the food chain if
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you build an incinerator in
the area then the farmers
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are going to be the
big recipients of the toxics
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particularly dioxins a cow by
eating the grass puts into
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its body What it would
take you 14 years To
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breathe.
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In other words if you
stood next to the couch
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and I don't advise it
would be very boring 14
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years of your life.
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But if you did it
would literally have to breathe
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the air next to that
cow for 14 years to
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get the same amount of
dioxin into your body that
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that cow is getting in
one day I went to
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visit the farmer affected by
the incinerator.
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He was initially reluctant to
talk to me.
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His family had been farming
here for over 150 years
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and the stress of their
problems had taken its toll
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on his elderly father who
just suffered a stroke.
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Hello I'm jeremy and I'm
very sorry to hear about
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your about your situation and
I was wondering if we
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could maybe go and look
at the cars.
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He also told me a
calf born recently had died
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at birth of liver damage.
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He felt as a direct
result of the incinerator instructed
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to keep his animals confined
for the past two months
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His only certainty was that
at some point all of
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them would have to be
put down the unacceptably high
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levels of dioxins found in
this herd's milk were only
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discovered after his neighbor asked
the dairy distributor to test
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it.
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He wanted to show me
where he'd been pouring the
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milk away.
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He said he was puzzled
by a strange residue from
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the rejected milk.
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Just the credit his land.
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Now as a farmer is
worthless and the government have
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offered no compensation.
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Still.
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She's thinking I could take
you this must have affected
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your family dreadful.
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Uh You have it may
now get them in with
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his livelihood gone and no
word of compensation.
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The future for him and
his family looked bleak.
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I wanted to find someone
to shed some official light
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on what was happening.
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You take decision last november
to close it and to
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recycle the carpets.
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And a few weeks after
we took that decision we
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had these problems with the
what will happen to Mr
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johnson Willie a conversation for
his farm.
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I hope so.
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I hope at least it
won't be he who has
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to pay for it.
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And then then it's either
us or the government that's
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responsible in my opinion.
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The last time the Icelandic
Environmental Agency tested Funny was
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in 2007.
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And although those results showed
the emissions were 21 times
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above the safe limit.
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The incinerator wasn't closed down
until December 2009.
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I wanted to know why
I was hoping to meet
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the Minister for the environment
but she's got the flu
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today.
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So I'm gonna meet her
second in command and see
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what he's got to say
our experts that we're dealing
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with those those matters there.
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The the environment Agency felt
that there was not this
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this threat of of of
any danger to the to
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the to the environment or
to the health of the
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people.
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And yet you feel that
we should try not to
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have any dioxins in the.
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Well that's that's my personal
that's my personal view that
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we should we should make
all the efforts and we
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need to have a look
at the practical options practical
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solutions that we do have.
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Mm But at the time
you didn't make any efforts
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to close the incinerators.
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Well I think the the
the the the the signals
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from the the environmental agency
came to us much later
448
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It was not until early
this year.
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So it was it was
when you discovered the land
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around it was actually polluted
because the operators I think
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said that that there would
be no problem with pollutants
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near the incinerator and yet
1500 yards away we have
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this land which is apparently
now unusable.
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So the operators it seems
of people who supply the
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equipment should maybe be held
to account.
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But Iceland with its defective
incinerators isn't alone all over
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the world incinerator operators regularly
violate their emission limits.
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And it's not just the
old ones.
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The new state of the
art facility which opened in
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Scotland in 2009 breached its
emission limits 172 times and
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these things aren't cheap.
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The town of Harrisburg's in
the USA was forced to
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file for bankruptcy due in
part to a $310 million
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dollar debt for their incinerator.
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While Detroit taxpayers went $1.2
billion dollars into the red
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building and upgrading.
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There's one of the world's
largest But communities could be
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made to pay in more
ways than one.
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For over nine years residents
in this idyllic town in
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France have been fighting for
justice with the authorities and
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the owners of their local
incinerator now demolished.
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It had been releasing dioxins
13,000 times above permitted limits
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But here once again the
incinerator continued to operate.
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It was only when local
cancer cases increased significantly that
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it was closed down The
street behind the facility became
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known in the news as
Cancer Road.
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When 24 out of the
80 residents contracted the disease
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only One small incinerator wrecked
350 farms.
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3000 animals were called 7000
tons of hay was destroyed
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And 13,000 liters of milk
were poured away.
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The court case involving 165
residents was dismissed on the
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basis that the cancer cluster
in the area was not
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statistically significant and that there
was no proven link between
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exposure to dioxin and cancer.
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The precautionary principle says that
in the absence of scientific
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certainty the burden of proof
should show the action isn't
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harmful.
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So in this case shouldn't
it have been up to
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the authorities to prove the
incinerator was safe as opposed
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to the local residents having
to prove it wasn't.
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We're pretty sure that with
humans you can't get absolute
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proof.
493
00:37:15,849 --> 00:37:18,819
So that's why governments have
to be prepared to act
494
00:37:19,589 --> 00:37:22,569
with precaution on the balance
of evidence.
495
00:37:22,579 --> 00:37:28,119
I mean the manufacturers usually
demand that you give them
496
00:37:28,489 --> 00:37:33,109
proof beyond all reasonable doubt
but they know that that's
497
00:37:33,109 --> 00:37:33,859
asking for the moon.
498
00:37:33,859 --> 00:37:34,509
You can't have it.
499
00:37:35,589 --> 00:37:37,439
So some people when they
see the stack of an
500
00:37:37,439 --> 00:37:44,879
incinerator the chimney I think
oh dilution dispersion and forget
501
00:37:44,879 --> 00:37:45,619
that nature.
502
00:37:45,629 --> 00:37:50,129
Re concentrates re concentrates in
fish particularly mercury and re
503
00:37:50,129 --> 00:37:56,039
concentrates with any grazing animal
sheep pigs goats cows chickens
504
00:37:57,359 --> 00:37:58,949
and so we get all
this back to us and
505
00:37:58,949 --> 00:38:02,369
and now just to finish
that story the huge problem
506
00:38:02,369 --> 00:38:04,809
here is that once we
get dioxins into our body
507
00:38:04,819 --> 00:38:05,629
we can't get rid of
them.
508
00:38:06,489 --> 00:38:08,859
The man can't give him
a woman has a way
509
00:38:08,859 --> 00:38:09,599
of getting rid of them.
510
00:38:09,779 --> 00:38:11,319
It's called having a baby.
511
00:38:11,889 --> 00:38:15,289
So she's getting the dioxin
from her food every day
512
00:38:15,299 --> 00:38:16,269
She can't get rid of
it.
513
00:38:16,459 --> 00:38:18,639
It accumulates in her body
fat.
514
00:38:18,939 --> 00:38:23,609
And when she's pregnant The
dioxin that she's accumulated for
515
00:38:23,609 --> 00:38:26,779
25 years or so in
her body now moves to
516
00:38:26,779 --> 00:38:27,529
the fotis.
517
00:38:27,829 --> 00:38:31,789
And so the effective concentration
of that stuff is hugely
518
00:38:31,799 --> 00:38:35,889
increased in the fotis potential
to interfere with the baby's
519
00:38:35,899 --> 00:38:37,109
mental development.
520
00:38:37,549 --> 00:38:41,909
The baby's immune system and
the babies are sexual development
521
00:38:42,889 --> 00:39:04,809
It's not a wise thing
to do but to really
522
00:39:04,809 --> 00:39:07,629
understand the power of manmade
dioxins I felt I needed
523
00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:08,899
to see them at their
worst.
524
00:39:11,179 --> 00:39:16,079
During the Vietnam war agent
orange a herbicide contaminated with
525
00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:16,289
T.
526
00:39:16,289 --> 00:39:16,569
C.
527
00:39:16,569 --> 00:39:16,819
D.
528
00:39:16,819 --> 00:39:17,319
D.
529
00:39:17,449 --> 00:39:21,379
The most deadly of the
dioxins was repeatedly sprayed over
530
00:39:21,379 --> 00:39:23,739
the jungle to kill the
foliage and cut off the
531
00:39:23,739 --> 00:39:25,459
Vietcong supply lines.
532
00:39:26,079 --> 00:39:30,979
However No one predicted that
nearly 40 years later Children
533
00:39:30,979 --> 00:39:34,659
would still be born suffering
from what many scientists believe
534
00:39:34,809 --> 00:39:37,189
are the effects of this
dioxin contamination.
535
00:39:40,579 --> 00:39:40,809
Yeah.
536
00:39:42,179 --> 00:39:46,899
Dioxins interfere with hormones affect
development damage the immune system
537
00:39:47,579 --> 00:39:51,379
with fetuses and breastfeeding infants
at particular risk.
538
00:40:18,479 --> 00:40:19,699
Mhm.
539
00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:21,009
Mhm.
540
00:40:26,479 --> 00:40:26,809
Mhm.
541
00:40:31,079 --> 00:40:31,799
Mhm.
542
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,610
We received many thousands.
543
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,600
The form change man abandoned.
544
00:40:54,970 --> 00:41:01,270
Oh their parents want to
send them here because we
545
00:41:01,270 --> 00:41:04,300
can take care of them
quite well.
546
00:41:06,070 --> 00:41:10,230
Since about 1966 67.
547
00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:14,350
I saw many cases of
birth defects but I didn't
548
00:41:14,350 --> 00:41:14,980
know why.
549
00:41:15,670 --> 00:41:21,930
I found a book Population
in 1974 by the National
550
00:41:21,940 --> 00:41:24,810
Academy of Science the U.
551
00:41:24,810 --> 00:41:25,060
S.
552
00:41:25,060 --> 00:41:25,390
A.
553
00:41:26,170 --> 00:41:33,390
About a Spraying Mission in
Vietnam since 1961.
554
00:41:34,170 --> 00:41:39,180
I realized that maybe the
birth defects I have seen
555
00:41:39,770 --> 00:41:44,770
may be caused by toxic
chemicals but the U.
556
00:41:44,770 --> 00:41:45,050
S.
557
00:41:45,060 --> 00:41:48,180
Air force stretched during the
war time.
558
00:41:49,270 --> 00:41:52,840
People have done calculations to
say okay if by magic
559
00:41:52,850 --> 00:41:57,690
we could stop darks in
appearing in our diet.
560
00:41:59,170 --> 00:42:00,110
How long would it be?
561
00:42:00,110 --> 00:42:03,740
How many generations would it
be before the level diluted
562
00:42:03,740 --> 00:42:05,380
to an extent that you
couldn't detect it.
563
00:42:06,170 --> 00:42:13,940
Six generations Children here at
the tu du hospital were
564
00:42:13,940 --> 00:42:18,030
considered to be the lucky
ones receiving full time care
565
00:42:18,030 --> 00:42:19,800
and attention from the hospital
staff.
566
00:42:26,670 --> 00:42:29,490
But many others are not
so lucky.
567
00:42:30,970 --> 00:42:33,190
The mother of this little
two year old girl was
568
00:42:33,190 --> 00:42:36,700
devastated when her daughter was
born without arms or legs
569
00:42:38,070 --> 00:42:43,330
Right until then she'd been
unaware that dioxins sprayed during
570
00:42:43,330 --> 00:42:46,490
the war could have any
effect on her own family
571
00:43:12,990 --> 00:43:30,000
I look back that's what
you're doing your little ball
572
00:43:34,460 --> 00:43:35,230
Yeah.
573
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:42,980
Mhm.
574
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,610
Seeing these Children here in
Vietnam leaves me in no
575
00:43:47,610 --> 00:43:50,990
doubt about the dangers caused
by exposure to high levels
576
00:43:50,990 --> 00:43:51,860
of dioxins.
577
00:43:51,860 --> 00:43:55,290
But what effects do they
have at low levels in
578
00:43:55,290 --> 00:43:56,670
our bodies?
579
00:43:57,060 --> 00:44:01,320
Everyone in the population today
has these chemicals in their
580
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:01,790
bodies.
581
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:07,290
We can't find a dose
below which nothing has happened
582
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,360
when we look at levels
in our experimental animals where
583
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:15,780
we've seen effects we see
by chemical effects occurring at
584
00:44:15,780 --> 00:44:18,880
levels that are present in
essentially most of our population
585
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:23,170
talking about a chemical that
has effects at very low
586
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:24,870
concentrations in the body.
587
00:44:26,460 --> 00:44:29,910
I would say there's absolutely
no safe dosage.
588
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,550
Dioxins are the most toxic
chemicals that we know of
589
00:44:33,570 --> 00:44:36,340
And even at the minute
amounts that we that we
590
00:44:36,340 --> 00:44:37,170
exposed to.
591
00:44:37,180 --> 00:44:41,280
We're still seeing toxic effects
on babies on Children.
592
00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:46,140
If you start to look
at development as the period
593
00:44:46,150 --> 00:44:50,380
on which to concentrate for
toxic effects you find that
594
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:54,440
a there are many many
substances that seem to have
595
00:44:54,440 --> 00:45:00,020
effects and B they occur
at doses 100 to 1000
596
00:45:00,020 --> 00:45:03,160
times lower than you need
to produce an effect in
597
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:08,870
an adult because developments are
kind of one way trip
598
00:45:09,540 --> 00:45:13,510
And if you're pushed off
course you you don't necessarily
599
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:24,230
get back In June 2008
33,000 doctors wrote to the
600
00:45:24,230 --> 00:45:28,130
European Parliament concerned by the
lack of monitoring of the
601
00:45:28,140 --> 00:45:30,730
ultra fine particles incinerators.
602
00:45:30,730 --> 00:45:36,370
Also emit these nanoparticles are
so small.
603
00:45:36,750 --> 00:45:39,170
Not only are they impossible
to see they're impossible to
604
00:45:39,180 --> 00:45:44,360
capture and escape regulation and
monitoring by any government bodies
605
00:45:45,050 --> 00:45:48,540
There are two basic questions
with nanoparticles is one where
606
00:45:48,540 --> 00:45:50,580
do they get to in
the body?
607
00:45:50,950 --> 00:45:53,970
And two if they get
there does it matter?
608
00:45:55,950 --> 00:45:58,310
We're already quite a long
way down the line looking
609
00:45:58,310 --> 00:46:01,390
at the first question I
mean the scientific community is
610
00:46:02,050 --> 00:46:03,790
by a number of different
methods.
611
00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:07,310
The findings so far indicate
that if they get into
612
00:46:07,310 --> 00:46:11,860
your body then they travel
and they get around by
613
00:46:11,870 --> 00:46:15,170
the same sorts of mechanisms
that viruses do.
614
00:46:15,550 --> 00:46:18,600
If you inhale some particles
they've been shown that they
615
00:46:18,610 --> 00:46:22,580
get to the liver the
spleen bone marrow the brain
616
00:46:23,510 --> 00:46:25,660
you can get across the
blood brain barrier.
617
00:46:32,950 --> 00:46:38,010
There's another process called global
distillation going on whereby these
618
00:46:38,500 --> 00:46:42,400
compounds like PCBs and dioxins
things are being wafted around
619
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,360
the planet very very low
concentrations but they get to
620
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,410
the colder part of the
planet and then they condense
621
00:46:49,950 --> 00:46:58,680
right whether it be by
dioxins or toxic heavy metals
622
00:46:59,030 --> 00:47:03,900
The arctic which seems so
clean on the surface has
623
00:47:03,900 --> 00:47:12,850
become one of the most
contaminated places on earth as
624
00:47:12,850 --> 00:47:17,280
the climate warns toxins deposited
in the arctic ice have
625
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:21,010
begun to be re released
back into our environment.
626
00:47:29,540 --> 00:47:33,750
If you take the inuits
their natural diet has been
627
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,370
and they've had to change
because it's it's become too
628
00:47:38,370 --> 00:47:38,950
toxic.
629
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,390
So so what we're doing
in this part of the
630
00:47:41,390 --> 00:47:44,570
world is having an effect
on a global basis.
631
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,730
We can argue about how
much dioxin comes out of
632
00:47:48,730 --> 00:47:49,560
modern incinerators.
633
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,060
We can argue about what
the health effects are but
634
00:47:53,060 --> 00:47:55,990
what we can't argue about
in my view is we've
635
00:47:55,990 --> 00:47:57,360
got too much out there
already.
636
00:47:57,370 --> 00:47:59,060
We have too much in
the environment we have too
637
00:47:59,060 --> 00:48:00,630
much in our food we
have too much in our
638
00:48:00,630 --> 00:48:01,060
bodies.
639
00:48:01,070 --> 00:48:02,440
We have too much in
our babies.
640
00:48:02,450 --> 00:48:05,160
We don't need any more
and we should be cutting
641
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:09,330
back on sources for which
there are clear alternatives.
642
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,590
But what becomes of the
billion tons of rubbish we
643
00:48:14,590 --> 00:48:19,130
make that never actually makes
it into landfills or incinerators
644
00:48:19,130 --> 00:48:23,400
each year that disappear into
the environment washed away through
645
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:27,720
storm drains rivers and ultimately
into our oceans.
646
00:48:29,100 --> 00:48:32,460
The evidence lies on beaches
all over the world.
647
00:48:34,540 --> 00:48:40,620
2.7 million kg of track
was cleared from global shorelines
648
00:48:40,810 --> 00:48:41,950
in a single day.
649
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,350
You see this is so
nice to wrap your rubbish
650
00:48:44,490 --> 00:48:46,940
and leave it on the
beach in a plastic bag
651
00:48:46,940 --> 00:48:48,210
I mean isn't that thoughtful?
652
00:48:49,390 --> 00:48:52,160
A staggering amount was from
smokers.
653
00:48:59,030 --> 00:49:01,630
I'm feeling rather holier than
now because at the moment
654
00:49:01,630 --> 00:49:03,710
I'm not smoking I don't
know how long it will
655
00:49:03,710 --> 00:49:06,190
last but I do notice
a lot of cigarette butts
656
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,110
Yes there will be a
lot of cigarettes.
657
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:12,570
Now they're biodegradable are they
know they're not unfortunately they're
658
00:49:12,570 --> 00:49:16,770
made of cellulose acetate acetate
kind of type of plastic
659
00:49:16,780 --> 00:49:17,440
basically.
660
00:49:18,140 --> 00:49:21,630
Obviously inside they've also got
all the toxins that we're
661
00:49:21,630 --> 00:49:22,990
not going down into people's
lungs.
662
00:49:23,070 --> 00:49:25,040
So once in the water
that will leach out into
663
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,670
the water and that's because
the cigarette butt is so
664
00:49:28,670 --> 00:49:31,730
small and the water is
so big does that matter
665
00:49:31,730 --> 00:49:34,290
But it does actually because
I have done experiments with
666
00:49:34,290 --> 00:49:36,790
the little water fleas and
it can actually poison them
667
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,780
Just one cigarette and a
few liters of water.
668
00:49:38,790 --> 00:49:41,130
That's why I'm not smoking
it because I'm worried about
669
00:49:41,130 --> 00:49:42,150
the effect it has on
water.
670
00:49:43,580 --> 00:49:45,510
So this will never degrade.
671
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,550
It will break down into
smaller and smaller pieces but
672
00:49:48,550 --> 00:49:51,420
essentially it just kind of
hang around for several years
673
00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:55,820
It's not just the water
fleas who are affected in
674
00:49:55,820 --> 00:49:56,320
water.
675
00:49:56,550 --> 00:50:00,610
Each cigarette butt becomes a
time release capsule of chemicals
676
00:50:00,750 --> 00:50:05,000
which are also toxic to
fish but scientists are only
677
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,510
just beginning to piece together
the amount of rubbish in
678
00:50:07,510 --> 00:50:08,380
the world's water.
679
00:50:10,230 --> 00:50:13,280
There's a range of concerns
there's the environmental impacts of
680
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,410
debris in the marine environment
problem to tourism problems to
681
00:50:16,410 --> 00:50:19,800
shipping but actually my biggest
concern is that annually we're
682
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:25,730
using 260 million tons of
plastic and we're using 8%
683
00:50:25,730 --> 00:50:27,950
of world oil production in
order to do that.
684
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,860
And yet over 30% of
that material we throw away
685
00:50:31,930 --> 00:50:32,820
within a year.
686
00:50:56,660 --> 00:50:59,290
Most of the rubbish from
the 11 million inhabitants of
687
00:50:59,290 --> 00:51:00,980
Indonesia's rapidly developing.
688
00:51:00,980 --> 00:51:04,890
Jakarta ends up here in
the waters of the chile
689
00:51:04,890 --> 00:51:05,550
wang river.
690
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,310
For the city's 1.4 million
poor many of whom live
691
00:51:13,310 --> 00:51:14,460
along its banks.
692
00:51:14,580 --> 00:51:31,840
There's no organized waste collection
garbage of all types even
693
00:51:31,850 --> 00:51:35,840
dead animals decays in its
waters leaving it so contaminated
694
00:51:36,620 --> 00:51:38,840
That it will take 20
years to clean it.
695
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:41,750
Mhm.
696
00:51:45,220 --> 00:51:48,500
Yet millions of people depend
on the river not just
697
00:51:48,500 --> 00:51:51,360
for their daily activities such
as laundry and bathing but
698
00:51:51,690 --> 00:51:53,930
as their major source of
drinking water.
699
00:51:57,220 --> 00:52:33,131
Think right.
700
00:52:37,221 --> 00:52:39,121
For much of this rubbish
it's just the beginning of
701
00:52:39,121 --> 00:52:40,851
a long journey out into
the sea.
702
00:52:41,921 --> 00:52:47,191
Once there The larger items
can harm at least 267
703
00:52:47,191 --> 00:52:48,851
different species of sea life.
704
00:52:49,421 --> 00:52:49,741
Mhm.
705
00:52:50,721 --> 00:52:53,141
And although we've been dumping
our waste into the world's
706
00:52:53,141 --> 00:52:56,611
oceans for thousands of years
it's this new litter the
707
00:52:56,611 --> 00:53:00,201
trash from the last few
decades which many scientists fear
708
00:53:00,201 --> 00:53:04,631
poses the biggest threat yet.
709
00:53:06,851 --> 00:53:08,431
Yeah.
710
00:53:15,211 --> 00:53:15,411
Yeah.
711
00:53:23,311 --> 00:53:23,631
No.
712
00:53:28,511 --> 00:53:28,931
Mhm.
713
00:53:29,411 --> 00:53:29,621
Mhm.
714
00:53:31,711 --> 00:53:31,911
Yeah.
715
00:53:34,011 --> 00:53:34,841
Mhm.
716
00:53:38,011 --> 00:53:40,851
One of the worst cases
ever recorded was this gray
717
00:53:40,851 --> 00:53:43,231
whale beached in Seattle.
718
00:53:49,011 --> 00:53:57,041
Yeah Scientists found 20 plastic
bags small towels duct tape
719
00:53:57,521 --> 00:54:00,041
surgical gloves and a golf
ball.
720
00:54:25,211 --> 00:54:25,841
Mhm.
721
00:54:27,101 --> 00:54:32,301
No understanding the scale of
the problem began in august
722
00:54:32,301 --> 00:54:37,211
1997 when returning from a
trans pacific voyage Charles moore
723
00:54:37,221 --> 00:54:40,101
took a shortcut home through
an area in the north
724
00:54:40,101 --> 00:54:41,931
pacific ocean known as the
Golden.
725
00:54:42,511 --> 00:54:45,201
We couldn't come on deck
without seeing some form of
726
00:54:45,201 --> 00:54:47,321
trash after just looking for
a few minutes.
727
00:54:47,321 --> 00:54:50,851
So got me thinking we
need to measure how much
728
00:54:50,851 --> 00:54:51,281
is out here.
729
00:54:51,281 --> 00:54:53,191
And I came back two
years later and found there
730
00:54:53,191 --> 00:54:56,431
was six times as much
plastic as the zooplankton we
731
00:54:56,431 --> 00:54:59,861
catch in this net by
weight and that was explosive
732
00:54:59,861 --> 00:55:04,081
The idea that somehow in
the deep ocean we've got
733
00:55:04,081 --> 00:55:11,211
more trash than life ignited
the whole controversy about allowing
734
00:55:11,601 --> 00:55:16,111
our throw away society to
become part of the ocean
735
00:55:16,121 --> 00:55:16,641
bio.
736
00:55:16,791 --> 00:55:17,461
What is it?
737
00:55:17,461 --> 00:55:20,091
I mean when I envision
it I think of just
738
00:55:20,101 --> 00:55:22,691
like a landfill floating in
the ocean.
739
00:55:22,691 --> 00:55:23,401
Is that what it is?
740
00:55:23,401 --> 00:55:26,151
No it's it's not like
it has that quantity of
741
00:55:26,151 --> 00:55:27,931
trash in it but it's
dispersed.
742
00:55:27,931 --> 00:55:30,931
It's an enormous area and
the trash is about the
743
00:55:30,931 --> 00:55:32,681
same density as the water
itself.
744
00:55:32,681 --> 00:55:35,311
So it lazily floats just
below the surface.
745
00:55:35,311 --> 00:55:37,051
And you can't see it
from a satellite.
746
00:55:38,901 --> 00:55:42,221
More study shocked the scientific
world.
747
00:55:42,901 --> 00:55:46,911
He revealed there were six
times as much plastic as
748
00:55:46,921 --> 00:55:49,711
ocean microorganisms known as Zooplankton.
749
00:55:50,201 --> 00:55:52,621
The starting point in the
marine food chain.
750
00:55:59,801 --> 00:56:03,191
What's recently become known as
the great pacific garbage patch
751
00:56:03,651 --> 00:56:05,781
is situated in an ocean
gyre.
752
00:56:05,781 --> 00:56:09,341
In the north pacific covering
an area of 20 million
753
00:56:09,341 --> 00:56:13,661
square kilometers where the rotation
of currents draws in waste
754
00:56:13,661 --> 00:56:16,671
material from surrounding areas which
in this case includes north
755
00:56:16,671 --> 00:56:18,211
America and Japan.
756
00:56:19,101 --> 00:56:23,891
It takes an average of
six years for a piece
757
00:56:23,891 --> 00:56:26,771
of rubbish to reach the
center of the giant by
758
00:56:26,771 --> 00:56:30,241
which time it will have
been eroded into tiny fragments
759
00:56:30,631 --> 00:56:32,801
which is why it's so
difficult to measure the true
760
00:56:32,801 --> 00:56:36,441
extent of the problem estimates
range from the size of
761
00:56:36,441 --> 00:56:39,031
Quebec to twice the size
of texas.
762
00:56:40,901 --> 00:56:42,331
Let's talk trash.
763
00:56:43,301 --> 00:56:46,771
You know we had to
be taught to renounce the
764
00:56:46,771 --> 00:56:50,201
powerful conservation ethic we had
developed during the Great Depression
765
00:56:50,201 --> 00:56:51,291
in World War two.
766
00:56:51,371 --> 00:56:55,241
After the war we needed
to direct our enormous production
767
00:56:55,241 --> 00:56:58,851
capacity toward creation of products
for peacetime throwaway.
768
00:56:58,851 --> 00:57:02,351
Plastics take a lot of
space and don't biodegrade only
769
00:57:02,351 --> 00:57:04,251
we humans make waste.
770
00:57:04,251 --> 00:57:05,901
That nature can't digest.
771
00:57:08,591 --> 00:57:12,041
There are very few areas
of the world ocean Which
772
00:57:12,041 --> 00:57:13,351
are plastic free.
773
00:57:13,591 --> 00:57:18,661
The United Nations itself estimates
46,000 pieces per km2 on
774
00:57:18,661 --> 00:57:20,021
average in the world ocean.
775
00:57:20,031 --> 00:57:24,261
It's rare to find a
trawl that has no plastic
776
00:57:24,261 --> 00:57:24,551
in it.
777
00:57:24,561 --> 00:57:27,081
In fact we've never had
one in all the trawling
778
00:57:27,081 --> 00:57:29,901
we've done throughout the North
Pacific that's been plastic free
779
00:57:31,791 --> 00:57:35,271
We documented come from this
river here and the river
780
00:57:35,271 --> 00:57:38,481
over here the san Gabriel
in Los Angeles in three
781
00:57:38,481 --> 00:57:42,411
days one rainy day one
light rain day and one
782
00:57:42,411 --> 00:57:47,511
dry day 2.3 billion pieces
of plastic weighing 30 tons
783
00:57:47,521 --> 00:57:50,511
now for a major urban
area that's actually trying to
784
00:57:50,521 --> 00:57:53,231
catch some of that stuff
that has street sweeping and
785
00:57:53,231 --> 00:57:54,901
gutter baskets.
786
00:57:55,291 --> 00:57:59,391
If one area like that
is still putting in 2.3
787
00:57:59,391 --> 00:58:02,391
billion pieces of plastic in
three days weighing 30 tons
788
00:58:02,591 --> 00:58:06,411
Imagine how much is coming
in from China and Indonesia
789
00:58:10,191 --> 00:58:11,451
Let's see what we've got
here.
790
00:58:11,591 --> 00:58:13,031
How many miles did we
troll?
791
00:58:13,311 --> 00:58:15,201
I think you could say
we traveled a mile.
792
00:58:15,891 --> 00:58:19,851
Got some packaging thin plastic
film.
793
00:58:19,861 --> 00:58:22,971
This is the most common
identifiable type of plastic we
794
00:58:22,971 --> 00:58:26,021
find even out in the
deep ocean in the past
795
00:58:26,361 --> 00:58:29,831
every material that defines the
age that we live in
796
00:58:30,051 --> 00:58:35,511
whether it was steel or
copper decayed at some rate
797
00:58:36,091 --> 00:58:37,411
by natural forces.
798
00:58:38,491 --> 00:58:42,051
That rate is much slowed
with plastic and that's great
799
00:58:42,061 --> 00:58:45,231
if you want to have
long term usage for your
800
00:58:45,231 --> 00:58:45,691
products.
801
00:58:45,791 --> 00:58:48,461
But if you've got a
throwaway society it's a bad
802
00:58:48,471 --> 00:58:48,711
thing.
803
00:58:53,381 --> 00:58:56,601
But there are four other
ocean gyres and two of
804
00:58:56,601 --> 00:58:59,731
Moore's colleagues have traveled over
20,000 miles to see if
805
00:58:59,731 --> 00:59:01,171
like the North Pacific gyre.
806
00:59:01,301 --> 00:59:02,801
They too are polluted.
807
00:59:03,681 --> 00:59:05,921
You hear just about one
the North Pacific jar.
808
00:59:05,921 --> 00:59:08,991
The Captain Moore had had
studied 15 years ago But
809
00:59:08,991 --> 00:59:10,901
there was no one going
to the other four.
810
00:59:11,281 --> 00:59:14,071
The northern hemisphere has to
then there are three in
811
00:59:14,071 --> 00:59:16,831
the south and no one
had been in those jars
812
00:59:16,831 --> 00:59:17,701
and see what was happening.
813
00:59:18,481 --> 00:59:20,771
There's been this myth in
the media about an island
814
00:59:20,771 --> 00:59:22,911
of garbage the size of
texas and then twice the
815
00:59:22,911 --> 00:59:23,791
size of texas.
816
00:59:24,041 --> 00:59:25,141
It isn't like that at
all.
817
00:59:25,141 --> 00:59:29,521
And in fact it's more
like like this a thin
818
00:59:29,521 --> 00:59:32,481
plastic soup and this is
actually a very concentrated sample
819
00:59:32,481 --> 00:59:34,831
This is right off the
coast of California but you'll
820
00:59:34,831 --> 00:59:37,891
see it's small broken down
fragments of plastic that shares
821
00:59:37,891 --> 00:59:39,511
space with zooplankton.
822
00:59:42,381 --> 00:59:44,731
There's no place that we
have gone but we didn't
823
00:59:44,731 --> 00:59:48,801
find at least some particles
of plastic small confetti in
824
00:59:48,811 --> 00:59:49,881
our surface samples.
825
00:59:49,891 --> 00:59:50,511
It's everywhere.
826
00:59:51,681 --> 00:59:54,371
See if it were an
island that might be better
827
00:59:54,371 --> 00:59:55,901
in a sense you can
go get it you can
828
00:59:55,901 --> 00:59:58,251
go harvest this island of
trash bring it back to
829
00:59:58,251 --> 00:59:59,171
land and deal with it.
830
00:59:59,311 --> 01:00:02,561
But what the reality is
is this thin diffuse soup
831
01:00:02,571 --> 01:00:04,901
that we have discovered covers
the entire planet.
832
01:00:06,281 --> 01:00:09,651
Other scientists were equally disturbed
by the increasing amounts of
833
01:00:09,661 --> 01:00:13,731
plastic they were finding in
our oceans here in Plymouth
834
01:00:13,781 --> 01:00:18,101
Professor Richard Thompson and his
team found microplastics present all
835
01:00:18,101 --> 01:00:21,961
over the world curious to
see exactly how plastic degraded
836
01:00:21,961 --> 01:00:22,881
in the environment.
837
01:00:22,891 --> 01:00:26,341
He carried out a number
of experiments which included leaving
838
01:00:26,341 --> 01:00:28,611
plastic bags tied to moorings
in the harbor.
839
01:00:29,381 --> 01:00:32,161
A year later the bags
were still strong enough to
840
01:00:32,161 --> 01:00:37,071
carry shopping Here for example
I've got what was heralded
841
01:00:37,071 --> 01:00:40,231
as the world's first degradable
plastic bag.
842
01:00:40,241 --> 01:00:42,841
This one's been in this
box since 2004.
843
01:00:42,851 --> 01:00:45,411
You can see I mean
okay it has degraded in
844
01:00:45,411 --> 01:00:46,551
terms of it being a
plastic bag.
845
01:00:46,551 --> 01:00:49,201
It no longer is one
but it's fragments of plastic
846
01:00:49,211 --> 01:00:51,901
that aren't inherently anymore biodegradable.
847
01:00:52,081 --> 01:00:54,181
This one's been in here
since 2004.
848
01:00:54,371 --> 01:00:55,471
We see the same sort
of thing.
849
01:00:55,471 --> 01:00:56,851
You can still see the
printing on the bag.
850
01:00:56,851 --> 01:00:59,521
But all that's happening is
it's fragmenting into smaller and
851
01:00:59,521 --> 01:01:00,291
smaller bases.
852
01:01:01,171 --> 01:01:03,511
So the next pressing question
was really well to what
853
01:01:03,511 --> 01:01:04,391
extent does that matter?
854
01:01:04,391 --> 01:01:07,851
Is this material causing any
harm to the environment or
855
01:01:07,851 --> 01:01:08,691
to marine life?
856
01:01:09,571 --> 01:01:12,001
We looked at the log
worm our Nicola marina which
857
01:01:12,001 --> 01:01:13,881
lives in the marine sediments
itself.
858
01:01:13,891 --> 01:01:16,721
And that work showed that
all of those organisms would
859
01:01:16,731 --> 01:01:20,861
quite readily ingest microscopic fragments
of plastic.
860
01:01:20,861 --> 01:01:23,771
So we ran some longer
term experiments with the common
861
01:01:23,771 --> 01:01:24,871
muscle might have a schedule.
862
01:01:25,181 --> 01:01:27,681
And what that showed was
that after a single pulse
863
01:01:27,681 --> 01:01:31,471
exposure to small fragments of
plastic in the laboratory Over
864
01:01:31,471 --> 01:01:34,591
48 days later having been
in clean water for 47
865
01:01:34,591 --> 01:01:37,881
of those days the muscles
had still got small quantities
866
01:01:37,881 --> 01:01:40,491
of plastic inside them that
had been retained.
867
01:01:50,371 --> 01:01:55,551
Yeah here off the remote
isle of in Scotland dr
868
01:01:55,551 --> 01:01:58,331
Phil Coe and his team
suspect the shellfish they are
869
01:01:58,331 --> 01:02:00,561
about to catch in the
deep water found in the
870
01:02:00,561 --> 01:02:03,441
Clyde estuary will have plastic
in their stomachs.
871
01:02:06,871 --> 01:02:09,551
So this is a deepwater
trawl from about 65 m
872
01:02:10,271 --> 01:02:14,161
And so we have here
this is the Dublin bay
873
01:02:14,161 --> 01:02:16,991
prawn or focus is its
scientific name.
874
01:02:17,471 --> 01:02:18,881
We would know as longest
steam.
875
01:02:20,171 --> 01:02:21,821
So normally if you go
to a restaurant you can
876
01:02:21,821 --> 01:02:24,321
have these prawns whole well
you would just end up
877
01:02:24,321 --> 01:02:26,191
the tail and that's what
we call scampi.
878
01:02:27,071 --> 01:02:30,381
So these are big healthy
specimens and we're looking at
879
01:02:30,381 --> 01:02:33,851
them because they live in
a muddy and sandy environments
880
01:02:33,851 --> 01:02:37,501
and deeper water net rocks
live in burrows typically live
881
01:02:37,501 --> 01:02:41,991
in burrows in the seabed
and the generalist scavenger predators
882
01:02:42,231 --> 01:02:45,601
So they will pick up
dead fish than anything really
883
01:02:46,151 --> 01:02:48,711
And because of their burrowing
habitat and the way they
884
01:02:48,711 --> 01:02:51,711
eat there's a potential that
they'll take in plastic through
885
01:02:51,711 --> 01:02:55,301
either their prey or from
the actual borrowing activities in
886
01:02:55,301 --> 01:02:55,791
the mud.
887
01:02:57,661 --> 01:03:00,921
We conducted a trial and
we looked 100 20 prawns
888
01:03:00,921 --> 01:03:04,851
and we found that 83%
of those contained plastic filaments
889
01:03:04,851 --> 01:03:06,161
or pieces of plastic bag.
890
01:03:08,761 --> 01:03:10,691
I think what we have
to do as a society
891
01:03:10,701 --> 01:03:14,941
is realize that we are
potentially having an ecological impact
892
01:03:14,941 --> 01:03:16,481
in our environment as a
whole.
893
01:03:16,861 --> 01:03:20,351
That we're only just beginning
to understand what those impacts
894
01:03:20,351 --> 01:03:20,671
are.
895
01:03:21,562 --> 01:03:25,122
That was but there's a
second more troubling problem.
896
01:03:25,122 --> 01:03:29,002
Scientists are currently looking at
not only does plastic leach
897
01:03:29,002 --> 01:03:35,982
chemicals but once in water
it also attracts chemicals potentially
898
01:03:36,142 --> 01:03:40,032
making plastic even more dangerous
to marine life because these
899
01:03:40,032 --> 01:03:41,712
chemicals are hydrophobic in nature.
900
01:03:41,722 --> 01:03:44,372
What will happen is they
will latch onto the surface
901
01:03:44,372 --> 01:03:47,532
of solids like plastics and
to give you an example
902
01:03:47,532 --> 01:03:49,352
in common terms it's a
little bit like if you
903
01:03:49,582 --> 01:03:52,612
were washing up after a
curry or a spaghetti bolognese
904
01:03:52,612 --> 01:03:54,792
and you've got all those
red food red and yellow
905
01:03:54,792 --> 01:03:57,312
food coloring in the bowl
they latch onto the side
906
01:03:57,312 --> 01:04:00,042
of your washing up bowl
rather than necessarily being washed
907
01:04:00,042 --> 01:04:01,682
away in your face with
cleaning them off.
908
01:04:02,462 --> 01:04:05,022
You could get orders of
magnitude so thousands tens of
909
01:04:05,022 --> 01:04:08,612
1000 times greater concentration on
the surface of plastic debris
910
01:04:08,812 --> 01:04:10,172
that was in the surrounding
seawater.
911
01:04:11,062 --> 01:04:12,172
So that begs the question.
912
01:04:12,172 --> 01:04:14,752
Well what what happens to
those chemicals in a different
913
01:04:14,862 --> 01:04:18,022
environment perhaps in the guts
of a marine organisms?
914
01:04:18,032 --> 01:04:19,182
Are they released?
915
01:04:21,262 --> 01:04:27,552
So when a fish eats
plastic what what does it
916
01:04:27,552 --> 01:04:28,112
in jest?
917
01:04:28,112 --> 01:04:29,922
I mean if we were
to eat that fish would
918
01:04:29,922 --> 01:04:32,552
it be would we just
cut out the plastic from
919
01:04:32,552 --> 01:04:33,092
its stomach?
920
01:04:33,662 --> 01:04:36,722
Well we've all grown up
with this idea since it's
921
01:04:36,722 --> 01:04:39,192
part of our food delivery
system that plastic is a
922
01:04:39,192 --> 01:04:39,602
nerd.
923
01:04:39,992 --> 01:04:43,482
We think of plastic as
not transferring anything to the
924
01:04:43,482 --> 01:04:47,082
food because we get our
milk and plastic we get
925
01:04:47,082 --> 01:04:50,822
our yogurt and plastic we
get our meat in plastic
926
01:04:51,122 --> 01:04:53,702
and we really wouldn't like
it if we had some
927
01:04:53,852 --> 01:04:59,512
concept that plastic was bio
actively transferring chemicals to the
928
01:04:59,522 --> 01:05:03,482
food that were a problem
for our body turns out
929
01:05:03,482 --> 01:05:07,222
that's actually what's occurring and
in the ocean it's not
930
01:05:07,222 --> 01:05:10,562
only the compounds that have
been mixed into the plastic
931
01:05:10,562 --> 01:05:13,502
at the time of manufacturer
but it's the compounds that
932
01:05:13,502 --> 01:05:16,662
have been absorbed by the
plastic as they float in
933
01:05:16,662 --> 01:05:17,232
the ocean.
934
01:05:18,602 --> 01:05:22,082
Many of these are capable
of disrupting our hormones.
935
01:05:22,952 --> 01:05:26,042
There are so many chemicals
that are being used that
936
01:05:26,052 --> 01:05:28,012
have hormone like activities.
937
01:05:28,012 --> 01:05:31,432
So it's different from toxicants
that kill you.
938
01:05:31,522 --> 01:05:37,782
Just out of being toxicants
here they are mimicking uh
939
01:05:38,252 --> 01:05:42,362
hormones that exist in our
bodies in very small amounts
940
01:05:42,362 --> 01:05:46,072
and that they play very
important roles in the way
941
01:05:46,072 --> 01:05:47,972
our organs form and function.
942
01:05:48,352 --> 01:05:52,462
Many have also been shown
to suppress our immune system
943
01:05:53,132 --> 01:05:55,702
and even decreased reproductive rates.
944
01:05:56,952 --> 01:06:01,872
There is a very interesting
danish study whereby the show
945
01:06:02,452 --> 01:06:06,322
that contrary to what you
would think younger couples are
946
01:06:06,332 --> 01:06:09,372
more seeking hill.
947
01:06:10,152 --> 01:06:13,492
When this happens you have
to think whether or not
948
01:06:13,492 --> 01:06:18,622
it's this exposure to hormone
like chemicals during development that
949
01:06:18,622 --> 01:06:22,562
is causing this shift eating
a lot of small fish
950
01:06:23,052 --> 01:06:25,792
A large fish becomes more
polluted than each one of
951
01:06:25,792 --> 01:06:29,352
the small fish because each
one of the small fish
952
01:06:29,352 --> 01:06:32,622
transfers a persistent pollutant to
the large fish which it
953
01:06:32,622 --> 01:06:36,802
stores in its fatty tissue
and then when we eat
954
01:06:36,802 --> 01:06:42,302
that we store the accumulated
pollutants in our fatty tissue
955
01:06:42,602 --> 01:06:44,352
That's bio magnification.
956
01:06:44,352 --> 01:06:47,852
That's why killer whales the
top predators in the ocean
957
01:06:47,862 --> 01:06:49,072
are the most polluted.
958
01:06:49,852 --> 01:07:02,342
They're having very difficult time
reproducing at the zoological Society
959
01:07:02,342 --> 01:07:07,962
in London veterinary pathologist paul
Jepson has been documenting strandings
960
01:07:07,962 --> 01:07:12,582
of whales dolphins porpoises marine
turtles and basking sharks.
961
01:07:13,442 --> 01:07:16,202
He's one of only a
few scientists in the world
962
01:07:16,212 --> 01:07:19,672
who's been studying the effects
of pollution in marine mammals
963
01:07:19,732 --> 01:07:21,382
for over 20 years.
964
01:07:21,432 --> 01:07:25,092
And it's not good news
pollutants accumulate at every level
965
01:07:25,092 --> 01:07:25,852
in the food chain.
966
01:07:25,852 --> 01:07:28,672
So in every level in
that change you get an
967
01:07:28,672 --> 01:07:32,212
order of magnitude increase in
the concentration of the pollutants
968
01:07:32,462 --> 01:07:35,282
When you get up to
bottom those dolphins and killer
969
01:07:35,282 --> 01:07:38,442
whales then the levels are
very very high and probably
970
01:07:38,442 --> 01:07:39,612
unsustainably high.
971
01:07:40,012 --> 01:07:42,662
And that's why these species
are most affected.
972
01:07:43,142 --> 01:07:45,662
And so you get this
big transfer from the mother
973
01:07:45,672 --> 01:07:48,472
to the firstborn particularly the
first born calf.
974
01:07:48,842 --> 01:07:50,762
This big offloading of pollutants.
975
01:07:51,022 --> 01:07:53,432
But the worry is that
the population declines could be
976
01:07:53,432 --> 01:07:54,472
absolutely massive.
977
01:07:55,442 --> 01:07:59,442
And actually we don't know
whether these populations will actually
978
01:07:59,442 --> 01:08:01,572
recover most of the marine
mammals.
979
01:08:01,572 --> 01:08:06,402
Paul has autopsied particularly killer
whales have very high levels
980
01:08:06,402 --> 01:08:07,432
of toxins.
981
01:08:07,942 --> 01:08:10,492
Some of the levels we
found in the animals.
982
01:08:10,492 --> 01:08:12,582
When we've done a postmortem
say on a killer whale
983
01:08:12,582 --> 01:08:15,472
or dolphin they will be
classed as toxic waste.
984
01:08:15,472 --> 01:08:17,322
You know you have to
dispose of them as as
985
01:08:17,322 --> 01:08:18,092
hazardous waste.
986
01:08:18,092 --> 01:08:19,622
And this has been found
in other parts of the
987
01:08:19,622 --> 01:08:22,622
world like innocent Lawrence Seaway
with the belugas where they
988
01:08:22,622 --> 01:08:34,882
have these very highly contaminated
animals releasing bad chemicals into
989
01:08:34,882 --> 01:08:37,782
the atmosphere doesn't mean they
stay up in the atmosphere
990
01:08:37,882 --> 01:08:40,772
They condense into the ocean
creatures in the ocean and
991
01:08:40,772 --> 01:08:42,102
then take them into their
bodies.
992
01:08:42,302 --> 01:08:44,552
That starts the bio magnification
process.
993
01:08:44,762 --> 01:08:47,472
This is why the whales
are having difficulty reproducing.
994
01:08:47,942 --> 01:08:49,022
They're the sentinel.
995
01:08:49,022 --> 01:08:51,362
There are the canaries in
the coal mine there the
996
01:08:51,742 --> 01:08:53,702
harbingers of what's going to
happen to us.
997
01:08:54,772 --> 01:08:58,152
There may only be a
few generations before human beings
998
01:08:58,532 --> 01:09:00,362
won't be able to reproduce.
999
01:09:00,362 --> 01:09:02,902
And plastic floating on the
ocean is nature's way of
1000
01:09:02,902 --> 01:09:04,852
telling us to get after
a problem.
1001
01:09:09,932 --> 01:09:10,162
No.
1002
01:09:12,192 --> 01:09:12,452
Yeah.
1003
01:09:13,832 --> 01:09:14,062
Yeah.
1004
01:09:25,932 --> 01:09:26,162
Yeah.
1005
01:09:29,032 --> 01:09:29,232
Yeah.
1006
01:09:39,132 --> 01:09:41,542
This is not about what
might happen in some distant
1007
01:09:41,542 --> 01:09:42,122
future.
1008
01:09:44,932 --> 01:09:48,562
The ground beneath our feet
is already full of rubbish
1009
01:09:50,612 --> 01:09:54,952
The air is tainted with
manmade chemicals and our oceans
1010
01:09:54,952 --> 01:09:57,662
are turning into toxic soup
of floating debris.
1011
01:09:59,232 --> 01:10:03,122
The issue of sustainability is
the single biggest challenge to
1012
01:10:03,122 --> 01:10:04,382
our civilization.
1013
01:10:04,792 --> 01:10:08,052
The best place to start
that change is with waste
1014
01:10:15,452 --> 01:10:16,622
Professional packaging.
1015
01:10:16,632 --> 01:10:19,672
People would have us believe
that life would be impossible
1016
01:10:19,682 --> 01:10:20,752
without their services.
1017
01:10:21,932 --> 01:10:22,252
Yeah.
1018
01:10:24,432 --> 01:10:24,662
Mhm.
1019
01:10:27,732 --> 01:10:30,732
When I speak to packaging
industry they say they're mainly
1020
01:10:30,732 --> 01:10:33,172
interested in getting goods safely
to the market.
1021
01:10:33,632 --> 01:10:36,622
I have no objection with
that except perhaps where it
1022
01:10:36,622 --> 01:10:40,042
comes into conflict with dealing
with the waste at the
1023
01:10:40,042 --> 01:10:41,042
end of the lifetime.
1024
01:10:41,042 --> 01:10:43,722
And if this one's easy
to recycle and that one
1025
01:10:43,722 --> 01:10:46,822
isn't then why do we
need to go down this
1026
01:10:46,822 --> 01:10:50,622
route per millimeter of liquid
getting to you?
1027
01:10:50,742 --> 01:10:52,592
This one is using more
or less twice as much
1028
01:10:52,592 --> 01:10:55,842
plastic for a meal of
drink that you consume as
1029
01:10:55,842 --> 01:10:56,332
this one.
1030
01:10:56,582 --> 01:10:58,772
So that's costing more to
transport.
1031
01:10:59,012 --> 01:11:01,652
It's more petrol that's being
petrochemical that's being used in
1032
01:11:01,652 --> 01:11:04,522
its manufacture its will waste
to dispose of and it's
1033
01:11:04,522 --> 01:11:05,462
hard to dispose of?
1034
01:11:05,492 --> 01:11:08,782
So I really query what
we're doing in some cases
1035
01:11:08,782 --> 01:11:11,562
and I think that to
fully tackle this problem we
1036
01:11:11,562 --> 01:11:14,552
need to work with industry
to move towards designing the
1037
01:11:14,552 --> 01:11:16,142
end of life recycling bility.
1038
01:11:17,652 --> 01:11:20,192
I met a woman who's
already taken up the challenge
1039
01:11:20,822 --> 01:11:24,662
We're going and declared her
own personal war on waste
1040
01:11:24,672 --> 01:11:25,762
feels fair.
1041
01:11:25,762 --> 01:11:27,792
The organic store rights.
1042
01:11:29,592 --> 01:11:32,552
We saw a picture of
the turtle with the carrier
1043
01:11:32,552 --> 01:11:37,992
bag in its mouth and
of an albatross who had
1044
01:11:38,682 --> 01:11:41,902
like pounds of plastic in
its stomach and it consisted
1045
01:11:41,902 --> 01:11:46,462
of bottle caps cigarette lighter
touch brush plastic toys stuff
1046
01:11:46,462 --> 01:11:48,362
that we were using on
a daily basis.
1047
01:11:48,912 --> 01:11:52,412
And my husband saw that
picture of the turtle and
1048
01:11:52,412 --> 01:11:54,912
he said we are never
taking another carrier bag ever
1049
01:11:54,912 --> 01:11:55,312
again.
1050
01:11:55,592 --> 01:11:57,782
How much waste do you
generate a year?
1051
01:11:57,782 --> 01:11:59,632
Have you ever worked it
out last year?
1052
01:11:59,632 --> 01:12:02,622
We created a carrier bag
of waste carrier bag.
1053
01:12:03,492 --> 01:12:04,502
I mean this yes.
1054
01:12:05,452 --> 01:12:09,382
Waste of landfill waste in
a year.
1055
01:12:09,392 --> 01:12:12,452
How many are you And
a rabbit?
1056
01:12:12,462 --> 01:12:14,112
three of you had a
rabbit and the rabbit I
1057
01:12:14,112 --> 01:12:14,342
suppose.
1058
01:12:14,892 --> 01:12:17,782
But anyway that's extraordinary.
1059
01:12:17,782 --> 01:12:19,322
What about your newspapers?
1060
01:12:19,562 --> 01:12:20,442
They get recycled?
1061
01:12:22,492 --> 01:12:26,542
True waste that cannot be
recycled for a whole year
1062
01:12:27,122 --> 01:12:28,602
That's absolutely amazing.
1063
01:12:28,602 --> 01:12:32,452
I would love to by
purely by how you choose
1064
01:12:32,452 --> 01:12:35,552
to shop or are there
other ways it starts before
1065
01:12:35,552 --> 01:12:37,682
you get to the checkout
You have to make a
1066
01:12:37,692 --> 01:12:39,742
conscious decision before you hit
the checkout.
1067
01:12:39,752 --> 01:12:43,682
So basically you pick something
that looks nice you have
1068
01:12:43,682 --> 01:12:45,762
to ask yourself what am
I going to do with
1069
01:12:45,762 --> 01:12:48,702
either this product or this
packaging when I have finished
1070
01:12:48,702 --> 01:12:49,172
using it.
1071
01:12:49,492 --> 01:12:51,442
And so whereas most people
perhaps turn it over to
1072
01:12:51,442 --> 01:12:52,972
look at the price we
turn it over to look
1073
01:12:52,972 --> 01:12:54,352
at the recycling information.
1074
01:12:54,912 --> 01:12:57,152
This is something that lots
of parents buy for their
1075
01:12:57,152 --> 01:13:00,962
kids that comes in this
laminated pouch with a plastic
1076
01:13:01,312 --> 01:13:01,622
juice.
1077
01:13:01,992 --> 01:13:03,042
It's orange juice.
1078
01:13:03,042 --> 01:13:04,722
So instead of buying it
in a carton that can
1079
01:13:04,732 --> 01:13:06,062
be recycled or a glass
bottle.
1080
01:13:06,612 --> 01:13:08,722
This the green dots symbol.
1081
01:13:08,722 --> 01:13:09,682
You're familiar with that?
1082
01:13:10,122 --> 01:13:10,712
No I'm not.
1083
01:13:10,712 --> 01:13:12,402
I get confused in all
these symbols.
1084
01:13:12,412 --> 01:13:15,302
Right Well this symbol here
lots of people think that's
1085
01:13:15,302 --> 01:13:18,722
a recycling symbol but it's
not a recycling symbol.
1086
01:13:18,722 --> 01:13:21,982
It means that this company
has paid a certain amount
1087
01:13:21,982 --> 01:13:25,522
to to have their products
recycled but the consumer cannot
1088
01:13:25,522 --> 01:13:26,742
do anything with that.
1089
01:13:27,112 --> 01:13:29,762
It's not hard to learn
on a packet of cigarettes
1090
01:13:29,762 --> 01:13:30,682
that they kill you.
1091
01:13:30,962 --> 01:13:34,362
It's very clearly why isn't
it clearly written on these
1092
01:13:35,312 --> 01:13:38,212
Is it just me or
do other people struggle to
1093
01:13:38,212 --> 01:13:41,042
understand what they all really
mean?
1094
01:13:41,712 --> 01:13:42,432
What does that mean?
1095
01:13:43,912 --> 01:13:45,142
Recycle?
1096
01:13:46,212 --> 01:13:47,682
It means that it can
be recycled.
1097
01:13:47,682 --> 01:13:50,072
You think you all do
a bit of shopping don't
1098
01:13:50,072 --> 01:13:50,362
you?
1099
01:13:50,942 --> 01:13:51,232
Right.
1100
01:13:51,232 --> 01:13:53,542
So I want to know
what that is.
1101
01:13:53,912 --> 01:13:56,332
Do you know recyclable.
1102
01:13:57,112 --> 01:14:03,132
Don't know recyclable retractable.
1103
01:14:04,012 --> 01:14:10,402
You're all wrong but I've
often wondered if it were
1104
01:14:10,402 --> 01:14:12,642
possible to do without packaging
altogether.
1105
01:14:13,912 --> 01:14:17,522
Our aim is to help
customers refill their own containers
1106
01:14:17,522 --> 01:14:19,432
instead of creating more packaging
waste.
1107
01:14:19,812 --> 01:14:22,302
So I bring my containers
here for for everything.
1108
01:14:22,312 --> 01:14:23,232
You bring your container.
1109
01:14:23,232 --> 01:14:25,022
If it's dry goods that
you want you can either
1110
01:14:25,022 --> 01:14:26,752
bring a bag or if
you bring a tupperware we
1111
01:14:26,752 --> 01:14:28,812
just wear it first then
you just fill it up
1112
01:14:28,822 --> 01:14:30,692
It means you can buy
exactly the amount you want
1113
01:14:30,692 --> 01:14:32,362
as well which means you
don't waste any food.
1114
01:14:32,912 --> 01:14:35,862
If I'm a bloke and
I'm sort of just didn't
1115
01:14:35,862 --> 01:14:37,862
plan to do some shopping
then I would have one
1116
01:14:37,862 --> 01:14:38,672
of these would I?
1117
01:14:38,682 --> 01:14:39,262
Exactly.
1118
01:14:39,262 --> 01:14:41,472
That's exactly what I would
have a little bag in
1119
01:14:41,472 --> 01:14:44,353
my pocket or in my
I do actually carry a
1120
01:14:44,353 --> 01:14:48,723
bag normally and this this
is just the next step
1121
01:14:48,723 --> 01:14:49,073
on.
1122
01:14:49,233 --> 01:14:51,123
Lots of people are used
to going to the supermarket
1123
01:14:51,123 --> 01:14:54,203
and carrying a reusable bag
to put things in.
1124
01:14:54,203 --> 01:14:56,523
So this is just the
replacing the packaging to go
1125
01:14:56,523 --> 01:14:58,123
in your reusable bag is
amazing.
1126
01:14:59,603 --> 01:15:02,183
When we first started we
started on a market stall
1127
01:15:02,283 --> 01:15:04,593
we were given a small
grant to test the idea
1128
01:15:04,593 --> 01:15:07,423
out to see if anybody
was really into the refilling
1129
01:15:07,423 --> 01:15:07,943
idea.
1130
01:15:08,133 --> 01:15:09,193
And what we found.
1131
01:15:09,193 --> 01:15:11,273
And it's still true today
is it takes people two
1132
01:15:11,273 --> 01:15:14,283
or three goes to remember
to bring their own packaging
1133
01:15:14,283 --> 01:15:16,793
First time they forget second
time they forget third time
1134
01:15:16,793 --> 01:15:20,023
they remember one thing after
that it just becomes a
1135
01:15:20,023 --> 01:15:20,523
new habit.
1136
01:15:24,703 --> 01:15:27,043
Ultimately it's a good business
model.
1137
01:15:27,053 --> 01:15:29,313
It's cheaper for the supplier
to put something in one
1138
01:15:29,313 --> 01:15:31,343
bulk container than put it
in lots of different bits
1139
01:15:31,343 --> 01:15:32,093
of packaging.
1140
01:15:32,313 --> 01:15:33,373
It's cheaper for me.
1141
01:15:33,373 --> 01:15:34,923
I should get a good
margin on it and we
1142
01:15:34,923 --> 01:15:36,663
should be able to pass
it on at an affordable
1143
01:15:36,663 --> 01:15:37,703
price to our customers.
1144
01:15:37,703 --> 01:15:42,233
So everybody wins and there's
no environmental impact in my
1145
01:15:42,233 --> 01:15:43,003
lifetime.
1146
01:15:43,073 --> 01:15:47,843
We've become accustomed to throwing
away products even food While
1147
01:15:47,843 --> 01:15:51,383
people starve and farmers are
told to grow GM crops
1148
01:15:51,383 --> 01:15:53,343
to increase food production.
1149
01:15:53,713 --> 01:15:58,333
In the UK alone we
throw away over ยฃ11 billion
1150
01:15:58,333 --> 01:16:00,823
pounds worth of food every
year.
1151
01:16:02,703 --> 01:16:06,273
The global waste of your
food is around about 1.3
1152
01:16:06,283 --> 01:16:07,923
billion tons a year.
1153
01:16:08,803 --> 01:16:10,353
Food is energy.
1154
01:16:10,513 --> 01:16:13,423
But instead of all this
wasted food going into landfill
1155
01:16:13,903 --> 01:16:15,723
Couldn't we be making better
use of it?
1156
01:16:16,203 --> 01:16:18,683
We built to digest in
a prison in the UK
1157
01:16:18,683 --> 01:16:19,623
Guys Marsh prison.
1158
01:16:20,503 --> 01:16:24,043
And it was designed to
treat the food waste that
1159
01:16:24,043 --> 01:16:26,743
was produced within the prison
itself from the kitchens.
1160
01:16:27,293 --> 01:16:31,033
And it's an absolutely first
rate example of a small
1161
01:16:31,033 --> 01:16:32,023
scale digester.
1162
01:16:33,403 --> 01:16:37,513
I don't understand the difference
between anaerobic digestion and composting
1163
01:16:38,103 --> 01:16:39,623
So I've come to see
it in action.
1164
01:16:41,503 --> 01:16:41,873
Hello.
1165
01:16:41,873 --> 01:16:42,823
So good afternoon.
1166
01:16:42,823 --> 01:16:44,423
I'm just going to give
you a pat down search
1167
01:16:44,423 --> 01:16:46,483
Do you have any objections
to a female doing that
1168
01:16:46,493 --> 01:16:46,943
to you?
1169
01:16:46,953 --> 01:16:48,013
It will be a pleasure.
1170
01:16:49,113 --> 01:16:49,923
My name is Lynn.
1171
01:16:52,803 --> 01:16:53,363
Thank you.
1172
01:16:53,373 --> 01:16:54,733
Just hold your hands up
like that.
1173
01:16:54,743 --> 01:16:55,673
Thank you very much.
1174
01:16:59,893 --> 01:17:00,223
Mhm.
1175
01:17:00,993 --> 01:17:04,593
This digester the first to
be installed in a british
1176
01:17:04,593 --> 01:17:06,303
prison is a prototype.
1177
01:17:06,993 --> 01:17:11,423
Record the weights of what
we're recycling all the food
1178
01:17:11,423 --> 01:17:13,653
gets processed through the process
of there.
1179
01:17:13,663 --> 01:17:15,303
So it breaks down a
little bit quicker.
1180
01:17:18,093 --> 01:17:21,883
You're recreating what occurs naturally
in us human beings and
1181
01:17:21,883 --> 01:17:24,693
animals who use bacteria in
their guts and their stomachs
1182
01:17:24,693 --> 01:17:27,543
to digest food and turn
it into energy.
1183
01:17:27,543 --> 01:17:30,293
And anaerobic digestion commercially is
exactly the same.
1184
01:17:30,513 --> 01:17:34,143
Only the anaerobic digester is
not flesh and bones.
1185
01:17:34,153 --> 01:17:37,113
It is concrete tanks and
metal tanks and it is
1186
01:17:37,113 --> 01:17:37,983
a pump system.
1187
01:17:38,113 --> 01:17:40,223
What comes out is exactly
the same.
1188
01:17:40,673 --> 01:17:42,873
Its energy its energy in
the form of a methane
1189
01:17:42,873 --> 01:17:45,833
rich biogas and it is
a solid and a liquid
1190
01:17:45,833 --> 01:17:49,723
fertilizer which can be used
on the land to replace
1191
01:17:50,143 --> 01:17:51,323
Inorganic fertilizers.
1192
01:17:51,653 --> 01:17:54,773
What does this save you
a year to save.
1193
01:17:54,773 --> 01:17:57,993
And just for the food
waste it's about ยฃ18,000 a
1194
01:17:57,993 --> 01:17:58,263
year.
1195
01:17:58,273 --> 01:18:01,293
And the cost of running
this is fairly minimal.
1196
01:18:01,293 --> 01:18:01,813
It's minimal.
1197
01:18:01,813 --> 01:18:02,003
Yeah.
1198
01:18:02,013 --> 01:18:03,873
Once you've set it up
there's no charge at all
1199
01:18:03,873 --> 01:18:04,223
really.
1200
01:18:05,693 --> 01:18:07,223
So that's saving the taxpayer.
1201
01:18:08,793 --> 01:18:09,023
Mhm.
1202
01:18:09,793 --> 01:18:12,043
Because backwards we'll let you
go first jeremy in another
1203
01:18:12,043 --> 01:18:20,833
case Jeremy nice to meet
you.
1204
01:18:20,843 --> 01:18:21,943
Thanks very much.
1205
01:18:22,283 --> 01:18:24,163
So this is the compost.
1206
01:18:24,173 --> 01:18:25,403
How long has this been
here?
1207
01:18:25,513 --> 01:18:27,473
This compost has been here
about 10 days.
1208
01:18:27,523 --> 01:18:29,623
Maturing days and it's covered
in.
1209
01:18:29,993 --> 01:18:32,213
Look at the flies and
how much longer will it
1210
01:18:32,213 --> 01:18:32,843
stay here.
1211
01:18:32,873 --> 01:18:35,783
This will stay here about
another 20 days and being
1212
01:18:35,783 --> 01:18:39,773
constantly turned so that the
heat is generated stream coming
1213
01:18:39,773 --> 01:18:41,643
up and feel the heat
to make sure everything is
1214
01:18:41,643 --> 01:18:45,533
working fantastic stuff and it's
beginning to smell good.
1215
01:18:45,543 --> 01:18:49,363
Yes it smells better than
that smelled in those tanks
1216
01:18:50,293 --> 01:18:51,473
Do the prisoners work on
this?
1217
01:18:51,713 --> 01:18:53,883
Yes the prisoners work within
the area and they work
1218
01:18:53,883 --> 01:18:54,933
within the tunnels.
1219
01:18:55,883 --> 01:18:57,983
Obviously some of them have
never done this before.
1220
01:18:57,983 --> 01:18:59,943
We try to teach them
you know where their food
1221
01:18:59,943 --> 01:19:00,693
is coming from.
1222
01:19:00,903 --> 01:19:03,613
I've never understood why we
don't do this in this
1223
01:19:03,613 --> 01:19:08,693
country why we import stuff
why we don't grow under
1224
01:19:08,703 --> 01:19:10,533
in these tunnels all the
year round.
1225
01:19:10,533 --> 01:19:12,273
We could grow up so
much more.
1226
01:19:12,483 --> 01:19:15,203
Yes we could perhaps times
will change and we will
1227
01:19:15,983 --> 01:19:16,643
thank you very much.
1228
01:19:16,643 --> 01:19:17,503
It's been a great pleasure.
1229
01:19:17,923 --> 01:19:20,003
Wouldn't it be wonderful if
this could be put into
1230
01:19:20,003 --> 01:19:21,593
practice on a large scale?
1231
01:19:22,193 --> 01:19:26,503
I'm told that managing resources
more efficiently could save the
1232
01:19:26,503 --> 01:19:29,493
UK economy ยฃ6..
1233
01:19:30,063 --> 01:19:31,503
pounds every year.
1234
01:19:33,083 --> 01:19:37,043
If we put our minds
to it 17 million tons
1235
01:19:37,043 --> 01:19:41,783
of waste could be diverted
from landfills and incinerators potentially
1236
01:19:41,783 --> 01:19:44,443
saving us millions more in
raw materials.
1237
01:19:45,683 --> 01:19:48,513
Imagine if that happened on
a global scale.
1238
01:19:57,893 --> 01:20:00,413
The city of SAN Francisco
has been leading the way
1239
01:20:00,413 --> 01:20:06,243
in recycling for years 75%
of its homes and businesses
1240
01:20:06,253 --> 01:20:13,123
participating in the city's zero
waste initiative San Francisco established
1241
01:20:13,123 --> 01:20:16,213
a zero waste goal back
in 2002 because land filling
1242
01:20:16,213 --> 01:20:20,483
waste is a total waste
of resources and we really
1243
01:20:20,493 --> 01:20:24,053
kind of piggybacked on an
emerging international movement for Zero
1244
01:20:24,053 --> 01:20:28,293
Waste we can't just keep
extracting resources from the earth
1245
01:20:28,303 --> 01:20:31,463
We have to utilize the
limited resources that we have
1246
01:20:31,523 --> 01:20:34,323
we have a three stream
collection system that we have
1247
01:20:34,323 --> 01:20:37,363
provided to all residents whether
they're in single family or
1248
01:20:37,363 --> 01:20:40,913
an apartment buildings all types
of businesses not just restaurants
1249
01:20:40,913 --> 01:20:43,343
but high rise office buildings
retail.
1250
01:20:43,533 --> 01:20:45,813
And that's the foundation of
our program.
1251
01:20:48,783 --> 01:20:52,343
We have now made it
mandatory in SAN Francisco for
1252
01:20:52,343 --> 01:20:56,033
everyone to participate in the
program from single family residence
1253
01:20:56,033 --> 01:20:59,513
to apartment dwellers to all
types of businesses and even
1254
01:20:59,513 --> 01:21:00,183
visitors.
1255
01:21:00,193 --> 01:21:03,613
So technically as a visitor
SAN Francisco you are legally
1256
01:21:03,613 --> 01:21:09,273
obligated to participate in our
source separation as part of
1257
01:21:09,273 --> 01:21:12,193
its radical approach the city
believes in working closely with
1258
01:21:12,193 --> 01:21:18,853
its businesses This is recycled
central and it's a 200,000
1259
01:21:18,853 --> 01:21:21,833
square foot building where all
of the recyclables from San
1260
01:21:21,833 --> 01:21:23,203
Francisco come to get sorted.
1261
01:21:23,573 --> 01:21:26,653
The bulldozers put it up
on those conveyors conveyors go
1262
01:21:26,653 --> 01:21:30,413
up 30 ft onto the
conveyor belt where our ecologies
1263
01:21:30,413 --> 01:21:33,373
employees are there to either
hand sort it or there's
1264
01:21:33,373 --> 01:21:36,243
machines like there's a magnet
that pulls out the metal
1265
01:21:36,483 --> 01:21:40,363
and then our employees also
hand sort the glass we
1266
01:21:40,363 --> 01:21:43,533
only hire folks from the
local communities all of our
1267
01:21:43,533 --> 01:21:46,383
employees that work here are
union employees and they're paid
1268
01:21:46,383 --> 01:21:49,933
very well and we have
full benefits full benefits and
1269
01:21:49,933 --> 01:21:50,603
a pension.
1270
01:21:51,533 --> 01:21:52,263
That's fantastic.
1271
01:21:52,263 --> 01:21:54,443
So you've got people queuing
up to work here actually
1272
01:21:54,443 --> 01:21:56,943
we do and we had
our last open call for
1273
01:21:56,953 --> 01:21:58,793
jobs alignment around the block.
1274
01:22:00,373 --> 01:22:02,443
People get bored with working
here they work here for
1275
01:22:02,443 --> 01:22:02,913
a long time.
1276
01:22:02,923 --> 01:22:04,333
People work here for a
long time.
1277
01:22:04,333 --> 01:22:06,573
I've been here for 11
years and I'm still considered
1278
01:22:06,573 --> 01:22:07,273
a new timer.
1279
01:22:07,283 --> 01:22:09,253
We have we have guys
that have worked here for
1280
01:22:09,253 --> 01:22:11,043
30 years 2030 years.
1281
01:22:11,053 --> 01:22:12,493
It's a really good job.
1282
01:22:15,973 --> 01:22:18,303
Tell me about about what
are you doing here?
1283
01:22:18,303 --> 01:22:18,883
What's this stuff?
1284
01:22:19,973 --> 01:22:25,913
Bridget and what happened voters
the bill into bells and
1285
01:22:25,913 --> 01:22:26,793
then we ship it over.
1286
01:22:28,773 --> 01:22:29,663
Where is this perspective?
1287
01:22:29,963 --> 01:22:32,353
This will probably go to
china and they'll make it
1288
01:22:32,353 --> 01:22:35,493
into new products that we
in turn buy back Right
1289
01:22:36,073 --> 01:22:38,523
So a lot of the
materials that come from china
1290
01:22:38,523 --> 01:22:42,013
in the shipping containers come
over here those containers we're
1291
01:22:42,013 --> 01:22:48,163
going back empty now they're
going back with material as
1292
01:22:48,163 --> 01:22:51,313
well as using anaerobic digestion
here in san Francisco.
1293
01:22:51,313 --> 01:22:54,183
They make compost on a
truly industrial scale.
1294
01:22:55,863 --> 01:22:58,243
Farmers are sharp when they
look and see that the
1295
01:22:58,243 --> 01:23:00,483
crops look better where we've
used compost.
1296
01:23:00,483 --> 01:23:03,473
Then they start to use
compost it's quite affordable and
1297
01:23:03,473 --> 01:23:06,423
it gives them back a
higher quality of produce and
1298
01:23:06,423 --> 01:23:10,293
better yields and less soil
erosion all adding up to
1299
01:23:10,663 --> 01:23:14,393
a return to the farm
in stopping the waste of
1300
01:23:14,393 --> 01:23:15,173
organic matter.
1301
01:23:15,963 --> 01:23:18,963
We stopped that organic matter
from going into the dumps
1302
01:23:18,973 --> 01:23:22,063
and by doing this we
stop the production of methane
1303
01:23:22,073 --> 01:23:22,893
out of the dump.
1304
01:23:23,003 --> 01:23:25,593
We also stop the filling
up of the of the
1305
01:23:25,593 --> 01:23:28,223
landfill by materials that are
valuable for us on the
1306
01:23:28,223 --> 01:23:28,703
farm.
1307
01:23:28,793 --> 01:23:30,393
So there's a dual benefit.
1308
01:23:30,943 --> 01:23:33,863
There are hundreds of businesses
and farms using san Francisco's
1309
01:23:33,863 --> 01:23:34,533
compost.
1310
01:23:34,973 --> 01:23:37,403
I just happened to have
chosen to visit a vineyard
1311
01:23:37,543 --> 01:23:38,573
in the napa valley.
1312
01:23:39,463 --> 01:23:41,623
You know we're adding what
we think is the right
1313
01:23:41,623 --> 01:23:46,673
amount maintain the integrity of
the soils soils are like
1314
01:23:46,673 --> 01:23:50,393
a bang and your crop
is like taking when you
1315
01:23:50,403 --> 01:23:51,273
take your crop off.
1316
01:23:51,273 --> 01:23:53,893
It's like taking withdrawal from
a bank where you have
1317
01:23:53,893 --> 01:23:55,403
to make deposits.
1318
01:23:55,663 --> 01:23:58,483
And so the compost for
us is a deposit.
1319
01:23:58,493 --> 01:24:01,343
We're replenishing what we're taking
out of the soil.
1320
01:24:06,663 --> 01:24:10,503
You know everything we do
is geared towards maintaining the
1321
01:24:10,503 --> 01:24:11,853
health of our soils.
1322
01:24:11,853 --> 01:24:13,493
That's the most important thing.
1323
01:24:15,233 --> 01:24:17,533
It might cost a little
bit more but it's so
1324
01:24:17,533 --> 01:24:18,793
worth it in the long
run.
1325
01:24:19,463 --> 01:24:23,213
You know the last thing
I want is chateau Montelena
1326
01:24:23,213 --> 01:24:25,503
wines to change for the
worst.
1327
01:24:25,503 --> 01:24:28,193
Under my watch that wouldn't
be good.
1328
01:24:28,203 --> 01:24:30,093
I think we've got to
taste something.
1329
01:24:30,103 --> 01:24:44,383
I think we should Ananda
lee town is part of
1330
01:24:44,383 --> 01:24:48,573
a global movement of hundreds
of grassroots organizations all advocating
1331
01:24:48,573 --> 01:24:50,583
the benefits of Zero waste.
1332
01:24:51,263 --> 01:24:53,653
The story that we try
to tell is that it's
1333
01:24:53,653 --> 01:24:56,983
really grassroots communities that have
been winning this battle have
1334
01:24:56,993 --> 01:25:00,223
been protecting the planet for
future generations and often with
1335
01:25:00,223 --> 01:25:01,313
very few resources.
1336
01:25:02,053 --> 01:25:05,153
The importance of getting broader
public support is is not
1337
01:25:05,153 --> 01:25:08,213
only about shutting these toxic
facilities but really about creating
1338
01:25:08,213 --> 01:25:10,393
more democratic governance over industry.
1339
01:25:10,393 --> 01:25:13,043
That's really out to destroy
both public health and the
1340
01:25:13,053 --> 01:25:13,493
planet.
1341
01:25:13,493 --> 01:25:17,083
And and how can we
help facilitate that so that
1342
01:25:17,233 --> 01:25:20,033
communities can also empower themselves
to organize and force their
1343
01:25:20,033 --> 01:25:21,273
local governments to change.
1344
01:25:21,753 --> 01:25:24,223
It's wrong to both bury
and burn waste when we
1345
01:25:24,223 --> 01:25:27,533
can recycle over 90% of
the waste that is generated
1346
01:25:27,533 --> 01:25:32,383
in this country recycling conserves
3 to 5 times the
1347
01:25:32,383 --> 01:25:35,723
amount of energy that incineration
projects or even latin for
1348
01:25:35,723 --> 01:25:37,653
gas to energy projects generates.
1349
01:25:37,743 --> 01:25:41,233
What's more important perhaps is
the amount of climate pollution
1350
01:25:41,263 --> 01:25:43,803
associated with that energy that
we reduce.
1351
01:25:43,803 --> 01:25:46,123
If we recycled everything that
is currently being buried or
1352
01:25:46,123 --> 01:25:47,903
burned in the US it
would be like taking half
1353
01:25:47,903 --> 01:25:50,403
the cars of US roads
that's the amount of climate
1354
01:25:50,403 --> 01:25:51,523
pollution we would reduce.
1355
01:25:51,723 --> 01:25:56,343
If we actually reach those
very achievable targets jobs are
1356
01:25:56,343 --> 01:25:58,583
obviously created by incinerators.
1357
01:25:58,593 --> 01:26:01,453
How do the amount of
jobs compare with those in
1358
01:26:01,453 --> 01:26:02,103
recycling?
1359
01:26:02,233 --> 01:26:05,823
So here in the US
studies have shown that 10
1360
01:26:05,823 --> 01:26:08,494
times the number of jobs
can be created by recycling
1361
01:26:08,494 --> 01:26:11,814
and composting the same amount
of waste or tonnage of
1362
01:26:11,814 --> 01:26:15,624
waste that is buried or
burnt in incinerators and landfills
1363
01:26:15,774 --> 01:26:19,014
for example here in the
US there are currently about
1364
01:26:19,064 --> 01:26:22,074
800,000 jobs within the recycling
industry.
1365
01:26:22,454 --> 01:26:27,104
However in the US we
only recycle 33% of our
1366
01:26:27,104 --> 01:26:29,874
waste even if we were
to achieve 75% and get
1367
01:26:29,874 --> 01:26:33,734
to where San Francisco has
gotten across this country we
1368
01:26:33,734 --> 01:26:37,874
would be creating 1.5 million
new jobs in recycling.
1369
01:26:39,014 --> 01:26:43,134
Einstein once said a clever
man solves a problem A
1370
01:26:43,134 --> 01:26:44,874
wise man avoids it.
1371
01:26:45,934 --> 01:26:48,424
The engineer is trying to
address a problem given the
1372
01:26:48,434 --> 01:26:51,854
amount of waste what we
have to do is to
1373
01:26:51,854 --> 01:26:53,624
stop making that amount of
waste.
1374
01:26:53,624 --> 01:26:54,974
We have to find other
ways.
1375
01:26:55,744 --> 01:26:59,184
Well we continue to attack
the problem by just saying
1376
01:26:59,184 --> 01:27:00,524
okay we've got a solution
here.
1377
01:27:00,524 --> 01:27:02,814
It is we burn everything
we're not going to make
1378
01:27:02,814 --> 01:27:03,424
progress.
1379
01:27:04,764 --> 01:27:07,764
We did it with smoking
a smoking ban and there
1380
01:27:07,764 --> 01:27:09,804
were the naysayers you know
it'll never work it'll be
1381
01:27:09,804 --> 01:27:12,494
a real problem but it
was clearly understood what the
1382
01:27:12,494 --> 01:27:13,114
goals were.
1383
01:27:13,114 --> 01:27:15,684
The timetable was set there
was a methodology to get
1384
01:27:15,694 --> 01:27:18,514
through that process and then
the date came and off
1385
01:27:18,514 --> 01:27:20,264
we went and we had
to stop we did it
1386
01:27:20,274 --> 01:27:21,724
with seat belts and wearing
seatbelts.
1387
01:27:21,724 --> 01:27:24,404
We did it with drink
driving actually when that became
1388
01:27:24,404 --> 01:27:28,914
unacceptable because the consequences were
made plane we need to
1389
01:27:28,914 --> 01:27:30,064
do this with waste.
1390
01:27:32,244 --> 01:27:36,184
I'm not saying that zero
waste is easy but the
1391
01:27:36,264 --> 01:27:38,654
problems that you have to
overcome with land filling and
1392
01:27:38,654 --> 01:27:42,454
the problems that you overcome
with incineration when you've overcome
1393
01:27:42,454 --> 01:27:46,684
them you've still gone in
the wrong direction 25 years
1394
01:27:46,684 --> 01:27:49,644
from now you will need
no closer to sustainability.
1395
01:27:49,824 --> 01:27:53,594
Whereas all the problems that
we have to overcome with
1396
01:27:53,594 --> 01:27:57,424
zero waste it's worth doing
because we know we're going
1397
01:27:57,424 --> 01:28:01,024
in the right direction we're
saving resources for our Children
1398
01:28:01,544 --> 01:28:05,744
and we're reducing the contamination
and we're moving towards sustainable
1399
01:28:12,054 --> 01:28:14,964
When I get the feeling
we're at a tipping point
1400
01:28:17,414 --> 01:28:20,374
all over the world I've
met small pockets of people
1401
01:28:20,384 --> 01:28:25,384
who have already changed but
now it's up to all
1402
01:28:25,384 --> 01:28:25,664
of us.
1403
01:28:28,544 --> 01:28:31,384
Look at that how can
you shut down the work
1404
01:28:31,384 --> 01:28:34,774
that not just you and
me with our plastic bags
1405
01:28:34,774 --> 01:28:38,094
and I'll throw away cups
lighters pen lids and our
1406
01:28:38,104 --> 01:28:43,544
take away toys not just
the corporation shipping food back
1407
01:28:43,544 --> 01:28:48,004
and forth across the planet
piling it high covering it
1408
01:28:48,004 --> 01:28:50,474
in plastic and throwing it
away at the end of
1409
01:28:53,494 --> 01:28:56,344
and not just the packaging
people and the pr promoters
1410
01:28:56,354 --> 01:28:58,934
telling everyone including themselves that
if it looks good it
1411
01:28:58,934 --> 01:28:59,754
must be good.
1412
01:29:02,344 --> 01:29:05,964
And not just the politicians
with their lack of political
1413
01:29:05,974 --> 01:29:10,394
courage their inability to stand
up and say this surely
1414
01:29:10,404 --> 01:29:19,234
must end But all of
Mhm.
1415
01:29:20,234 --> 01:29:20,564
Mhm.
1416
01:29:32,634 --> 01:29:32,844
Mhm.
1417
01:29:35,034 --> 01:29:35,564
Mhm.
1418
01:29:39,334 --> 01:29:40,254
Mhm.
1419
01:29:40,634 --> 01:29:40,954
Mhm.
1420
01:30:21,834 --> 01:30:22,204
Yeah.
1421
01:30:23,234 --> 01:30:25,354
Yeah.
1422
01:30:33,134 --> 01:30:41,494
No because we are trashing
our planet and it's time
1423
01:30:41,494 --> 01:30:42,054
to stop.
1424
01:30:44,834 --> 01:30:45,154
Yeah.
1425
01:30:53,724 --> 01:30:53,954
Mhm.
1426
01:30:55,824 --> 01:30:56,034
Mhm.
1427
01:31:03,824 --> 01:31:05,044
Mhm.
1428
01:31:07,524 --> 01:31:07,754
Okay.
1429
01:31:12,624 --> 01:31:12,854
Yeah.
1430
01:31:13,624 --> 01:31:13,954
Mhm.
1431
01:31:15,524 --> 01:31:15,944
Okay.
1432
01:31:17,724 --> 01:31:17,954
Yeah.
1433
01:31:19,124 --> 01:31:19,354
Mhm.
1434
01:32:01,524 --> 01:32:01,754
Thank you.
1435
01:32:04,024 --> 01:32:04,284
Yeah.
1436
01:32:22,724 --> 01:32:22,954
Right.
1437
01:32:23,424 --> 01:32:24,954
Uh No.
1438
01:32:33,124 --> 01:32:33,444
Yeah.
1439
01:32:35,024 --> 01:32:35,254
Mhm.
1440
01:32:48,324 --> 01:32:48,534
Mhm.
1441
01:32:54,514 --> 01:32:54,744
Yeah
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