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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:28,695 --> 00:00:32,950 I've never quite trusted films about film. 2 00:00:33,075 --> 00:00:35,043 I've been thrilled by them, 3 00:00:35,202 --> 00:00:36,704 enthralled, 4 00:00:36,870 --> 00:00:38,417 inspired. 5 00:00:39,331 --> 00:00:41,834 But a doubt's lingered in my mind. 6 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,971 Art shouldn't be about art, it should be about life... 7 00:00:46,129 --> 00:00:47,881 and speak to life. 8 00:00:49,216 --> 00:00:51,139 Or so I told myself. 9 00:00:51,301 --> 00:00:54,054 As if they were somehow distinguishable. 10 00:02:17,179 --> 00:02:21,776 In 1964, five years before receiving the Nobel Prize, 11 00:02:21,933 --> 00:02:25,813 Samuel Beckett made his only motion picture film. 12 00:02:25,979 --> 00:02:28,107 Called simply Film, 13 00:02:28,273 --> 00:02:31,527 it was at once an investigation of the cinematic medium 14 00:02:31,693 --> 00:02:35,197 and of the human experience of consciousness. 15 00:02:35,364 --> 00:02:39,369 This controversial experiment was both critically panned... 16 00:02:39,534 --> 00:02:41,036 and celebrated. 17 00:02:43,497 --> 00:02:48,128 Beckett himself deemed it a failure and yet confessed, 18 00:02:48,293 --> 00:02:53,720 �In some strange way it gains by its deviations from the strict intention... 19 00:02:53,882 --> 00:02:55,850 �from the big crazy idea... 20 00:02:56,009 --> 00:02:59,354 �to a strangeness and beauty of pure image.� 21 00:03:47,769 --> 00:03:50,648 This deviation was the result of a disparity 22 00:03:50,814 --> 00:03:55,411 between Beckett's genius and his inexperience in film production. 23 00:03:56,778 --> 00:03:59,952 It was also a tribute to his collaborators. 24 00:04:02,367 --> 00:04:07,339 Together, they made a flawed work that speaks to more than its surface... 25 00:04:08,415 --> 00:04:13,262 a riddle that at once revolts and strangely compels. 26 00:04:16,339 --> 00:04:19,513 Its working title, The Eye, 27 00:04:19,676 --> 00:04:23,556 suggests a concern with both the �eye� of sight 28 00:04:23,722 --> 00:04:26,145 and the �I� of self-consciousness. 29 00:04:27,517 --> 00:04:32,899 Eye and I, through the filter of film. 30 00:04:34,399 --> 00:04:37,653 Both, and yet neither. 31 00:04:37,819 --> 00:04:42,370 Not Eye, and Not Film. 32 00:04:48,455 --> 00:04:49,627 Scream... 33 00:04:50,248 --> 00:04:51,420 then listen... 34 00:05:19,611 --> 00:05:21,238 scream again... 35 00:05:21,905 --> 00:05:23,623 then listen again... 36 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:56,566 On March 15th, 1963, Samuel Beckett wrote a distressed note 37 00:05:56,731 --> 00:05:59,826 to American director Alan Schneider. 38 00:05:59,985 --> 00:06:04,582 �Dear Alan, the film thing has me petrified with fright. 39 00:06:04,739 --> 00:06:07,458 �To talk with you about it will be a great help. 40 00:06:07,617 --> 00:06:09,665 �Yours ever, Sam.� 41 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:20,972 At the time, 42 00:06:21,131 --> 00:06:24,601 Beckett was already internationally renowned for his revolutionary playwriting 43 00:06:24,759 --> 00:06:26,557 but had never worked in cinema 44 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,566 and his rigorous aesthetics would not allow mere dabbling. 45 00:06:31,850 --> 00:06:35,445 In his youth a prot�g� of the formal genius James Joyce, 46 00:06:35,604 --> 00:06:39,404 Beckett demanded precision in all aspects of his work. 47 00:06:39,566 --> 00:06:43,412 But on a return to his native Ireland at the close of World War ll, 48 00:06:43,570 --> 00:06:48,997 he had a vision in which he realized that his own work, in opposition to his mentors, 49 00:06:49,159 --> 00:06:52,254 would be defined by extreme austerity, 50 00:06:52,412 --> 00:06:54,881 a poetics of the Void. 51 00:06:56,666 --> 00:06:59,044 Beckett's vision came to light of day 52 00:06:59,210 --> 00:07:03,010 with the stunning success of his play Waiting for Godot. 53 00:07:03,173 --> 00:07:05,346 Premiering at the Th��tre de Babylone 54 00:07:05,508 --> 00:07:09,433 in January 1953 when Beckett was 46 years of age, 55 00:07:09,596 --> 00:07:12,816 the production took Paris's intellectuals by the throat, 56 00:07:12,974 --> 00:07:16,023 as if they were being shaken down in an alley. 57 00:07:17,062 --> 00:07:18,359 Stop! 58 00:07:19,522 --> 00:07:20,739 Think! 59 00:07:27,656 --> 00:07:28,703 Stop! 60 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:31,247 BacH 61 00:07:33,411 --> 00:07:36,631 The now classic work turned dramatic structure on its head, 62 00:07:36,790 --> 00:07:39,964 anticipating a denouement that never occurred. 63 00:07:44,464 --> 00:07:46,216 Charming spot. 64 00:07:50,053 --> 00:07:52,522 Inspiring prospects. 65 00:07:52,681 --> 00:07:54,274 - Let's go. - We can't. 66 00:07:54,432 --> 00:07:57,276 - Why not? - We're waiting for Godot. 67 00:07:59,062 --> 00:08:02,191 Around the same time that France was waiting for Godot, 68 00:08:02,357 --> 00:08:08,035 in the U.S., an aspiring film producer named Barney Rosset was pondering his next move 69 00:08:08,196 --> 00:08:12,997 after the financial failure of his post-war documentary, Strange Victory. 70 00:08:28,466 --> 00:08:33,643 In 1951, he purchased the tiny Grove Press in New York. 71 00:08:33,805 --> 00:08:36,058 Putting aside his cinematic ambitions, 72 00:08:36,224 --> 00:08:39,524 Rosset began building Grove into an alternative empire 73 00:08:39,686 --> 00:08:41,905 that would shape a generation. 74 00:08:43,064 --> 00:08:46,113 The story of Film is not just Beckett's story, 75 00:08:46,276 --> 00:08:50,656 but that of his production colleagues, of which Rosset is first. 76 00:08:51,948 --> 00:08:56,374 Hello, I'm Barney Rosset, publisher of Grove Press and Evergreen Books. 77 00:08:56,536 --> 00:08:59,380 I'm proud to be the American publisher of Samuel Beckett. 78 00:09:00,165 --> 00:09:05,217 In 2011, at age 89, Barney conducted his last interview. 79 00:09:05,378 --> 00:09:08,427 As courageous in his personal life as in publishing, 80 00:09:08,590 --> 00:09:12,140 he agreed to take part despite badly failing memory, 81 00:09:12,302 --> 00:09:15,146 a theme to which we'll return later. 82 00:09:15,305 --> 00:09:17,228 It began poorly... 83 00:09:18,224 --> 00:09:22,980 Barney, could you tell us about your first meeting with Samuel Beckett? 84 00:09:38,203 --> 00:09:41,082 What you did, you drew a blank... 85 00:09:42,415 --> 00:09:45,760 I spoke with filmmaker and cinematographer Haskell Wexler, 86 00:09:45,919 --> 00:09:49,969 whose friendship with Rosset traced back to their schoolboy days in Chicago. 87 00:09:50,131 --> 00:09:53,852 I'm going to be ninety years old in about three weeks 88 00:09:54,010 --> 00:10:00,643 and if someone asked me who my best friend in the world is, it's Barney Rosset. 89 00:10:00,809 --> 00:10:02,482 We did grow up together... 90 00:10:02,602 --> 00:10:06,027 were in love with the same woman together. 91 00:10:06,122 --> 00:10:12,350 A lot of our growing up and forming life was together 92 00:10:12,612 --> 00:10:15,741 and that electricity is between us. 93 00:10:16,407 --> 00:10:19,035 When memory goes, what remains? 94 00:10:21,287 --> 00:10:26,214 Haskell and I were in love with the same girl. That I remember. 95 00:10:28,128 --> 00:10:30,881 That I can remember perfectly clearly. 96 00:10:32,590 --> 00:10:37,096 And I could meet him today and carry right on. 97 00:10:38,513 --> 00:10:42,768 Barney got piqued on Beckett through an article in Merlin by Dick Seaver, 98 00:10:42,976 --> 00:10:46,355 which, in an ironic twist, introduced the French-writing Beckett 99 00:10:46,479 --> 00:10:49,323 to readers in his native English language. 100 00:10:51,776 --> 00:10:57,658 Barney took a boat liner to Paris, met Seaver, then Beckett, and left with a contract. 101 00:10:58,324 --> 00:11:00,247 Dick was very protective of Beckett 102 00:11:00,410 --> 00:11:02,378 because Beckett was living like a... 103 00:11:02,537 --> 00:11:04,039 not a recluse, but... 104 00:11:04,205 --> 00:11:09,211 enormous sense of privacy, he didn't like to go out and meet people, 105 00:11:09,377 --> 00:11:10,845 he was who he was. 106 00:11:11,004 --> 00:11:13,473 He warned Rosset right at the beginning 107 00:11:13,631 --> 00:11:16,430 that he would not accept any compromises 108 00:11:16,593 --> 00:11:18,140 with his publications, 109 00:11:18,303 --> 00:11:20,897 would not accept any censorship. 110 00:11:21,806 --> 00:11:28,064 Rosset was true to that when it was quite dangerous to do some of the early Beckett. 111 00:11:29,105 --> 00:11:32,109 Rosset would make a career of dangerous publishing. 112 00:11:32,275 --> 00:11:37,452 He not only fought America's censorship wars, he practically founded them. 113 00:11:47,248 --> 00:11:52,505 Without Rosset, it's unknown whether Beckett would have ever tried his hand at cinema. 114 00:11:52,670 --> 00:11:56,095 Yet when the time came, he was certainly ready. 115 00:11:56,257 --> 00:11:59,557 With his radio plays and Krapp's Last Tape, 116 00:11:59,719 --> 00:12:06,227 Beckett's formal concerns had begun to coalesce in direct explorations of recording and media. 117 00:12:07,018 --> 00:12:10,488 One can follow these works almost in sequence, before... 118 00:12:11,481 --> 00:12:13,483 and after Film. 119 00:12:14,776 --> 00:12:20,374 1972's Not I is crucial to understanding his trajectory. 120 00:12:20,531 --> 00:12:25,708 Beckett eventually created two versions, one for stage and one for television. 121 00:12:25,870 --> 00:12:30,751 Each took the focus of pure consciousness to its limits in that form. 122 00:12:31,918 --> 00:12:36,890 Not I marked the summit of the internal monologue, externalized. 123 00:12:39,842 --> 00:12:44,063 Beckett would ultimately choose television as his moving image medium. 124 00:12:45,223 --> 00:12:52,653 But in 1963, this self-realization had not yet occurred, and the field was open. 125 00:12:54,899 --> 00:12:58,028 Rosset, returning to his own dreams of cinema, 126 00:12:58,194 --> 00:13:02,825 conceived a compilation of short films created by Grove's authors. 127 00:13:04,575 --> 00:13:07,795 Beckett's was the only that would be completed. 128 00:13:22,427 --> 00:13:27,479 On April 5th, three weeks after his desperate letter to Alan Schneider, 129 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,234 Beckett finally set pen to paper. 130 00:13:30,393 --> 00:13:35,900 He began with a heading: �For Eye and one who would not be seen.� 131 00:13:36,065 --> 00:13:39,615 The E of Eye was capitalized for emphasis. 132 00:13:41,362 --> 00:13:43,239 The completed draft elaborated 133 00:13:43,406 --> 00:13:46,831 with a premise of the philosopher George Berkeley, in Latin: 134 00:13:46,993 --> 00:13:49,746 Esse est percipi. 135 00:13:49,912 --> 00:13:52,256 To be is to be perceived. 136 00:13:54,709 --> 00:14:00,341 Berkeley, like Beckett, was an Irishman, born in Kilkenny in 1685. 137 00:14:00,506 --> 00:14:03,476 In his Principles of Human Knowledge, he wrote: 138 00:14:04,510 --> 00:14:08,231 �Besides all that endless variety of ideas or objects, 139 00:14:08,389 --> 00:14:12,565 �there is likewise Something which knows or perceives them. 140 00:14:12,727 --> 00:14:19,611 �This perceiving, active being is what I call mind, spirit, soul, or myself. 141 00:14:20,401 --> 00:14:22,495 �By which I do not denote my ideas, 142 00:14:22,653 --> 00:14:26,783 �but a thing entirely distinct from them, wherein they exist; 143 00:14:26,949 --> 00:14:31,921 �for the existence of an idea consists in being perceived.� 144 00:14:34,540 --> 00:14:36,759 Beckett's sole foray into cinema 145 00:14:36,918 --> 00:14:41,719 was in essence a tongue-in-cheek but pointed debate with his Irish forbear. 146 00:14:43,216 --> 00:14:46,186 The script Beckett wrote had only two �characters�, 147 00:14:46,344 --> 00:14:49,723 E, for Eye, and O, for Object, 148 00:14:49,889 --> 00:14:52,267 in which the camera was the Eye 149 00:14:52,433 --> 00:14:55,357 and Berkeley's thing that engenders existence. 150 00:15:00,525 --> 00:15:05,201 The camera's capacity for this role traces back to the early days of cinema. 151 00:15:06,572 --> 00:15:11,328 The archetypal figure of silent films, Chaplin's tramp, 152 00:15:11,494 --> 00:15:18,252 made his first public appearance in a 1914 Keystone short that was in part documentary. 153 00:15:20,336 --> 00:15:23,010 Chaplin interferes with the shoot 154 00:15:23,172 --> 00:15:25,766 and ultimately steals the show. 155 00:15:42,108 --> 00:15:47,706 In his birth, we see the tramps identity established precisely through the camera, 156 00:15:47,864 --> 00:15:53,166 an impish persona whose esse consists in percipi. 157 00:15:58,124 --> 00:16:02,721 An early choice for the role of O was none other than Chaplin. 158 00:16:04,589 --> 00:16:09,311 Critically, Beckett and Chaplin both knew cinema could generate other responses, 159 00:16:09,469 --> 00:16:13,724 as was apparent in Tillie's Punctured Romance, released some months later. 160 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:18,986 Here, Chaplin plays a shifty city slicker who swindles a widow. 161 00:16:19,145 --> 00:16:23,742 He then goes to the movies with his sweetheart, played by Mabel Normand. 162 00:16:38,915 --> 00:16:43,716 This fear and loathing in self-recognition was closer to Beckett's heart. 163 00:16:43,878 --> 00:16:49,135 To his dark sense of humor, �existence� wasn't necessarily all that desirable. 164 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:55,436 In cinema, he found the perfect forum for his critique of Berkeley. 165 00:17:00,394 --> 00:17:02,817 The published draft of Film states: 166 00:17:02,980 --> 00:17:06,280 �Extraneous perception suppressed, 167 00:17:06,442 --> 00:17:08,786 �animal, human, divine, 168 00:17:08,945 --> 00:17:12,995 �self-perception remains in being. 169 00:17:13,157 --> 00:17:16,878 �Search of non-being in flight from extraneous perception 170 00:17:17,036 --> 00:17:21,792 �breaking down in inescapability of self-perception.� 171 00:17:21,958 --> 00:17:25,383 Or, as Beckett wrote in a letter to Barney Rosset, 172 00:17:25,545 --> 00:17:28,014 �I then imagine a naive human, 173 00:17:28,172 --> 00:17:33,019 �so unphilosophically minded as to take Berkeley literally.� 174 00:17:35,263 --> 00:17:41,316 The script describes O, the Object, in flight from E, the camera Eye. 175 00:17:42,186 --> 00:17:47,534 The result was in essence a chase film, the craziest ever committed to celluloid. 176 00:17:47,692 --> 00:17:52,323 The camera seeks to see, the object seeks to hide. 177 00:17:53,698 --> 00:17:57,953 And so, the chase... the essence of cinema. 178 00:18:34,113 --> 00:18:35,990 The impulse to flee the camera 179 00:18:36,157 --> 00:18:40,333 was for Beckett, however, no mere academic quarrel with Berkeley. 180 00:18:41,662 --> 00:18:43,915 It was, in fact, quite personal. 181 00:18:44,081 --> 00:18:47,210 Beckett felt the camera's eye as a literal wound 182 00:18:47,376 --> 00:18:50,846 and the desire to avoid it was physically embodied. 183 00:18:51,005 --> 00:18:53,224 I can remember, I'll give you one example, 184 00:18:53,382 --> 00:18:57,478 of when I was having dinner with him in the PLM Hotel 185 00:18:57,637 --> 00:19:05,637 and all of a sudden a bulb in the ceiling, a high ceiling, broke... burst with a flash. 186 00:19:07,063 --> 00:19:09,657 �What was that? What was that?" 187 00:19:09,815 --> 00:19:15,197 And I realized that he might have thought this was a flash photographer 188 00:19:15,363 --> 00:19:20,210 and that I had employed a photographer to come to photograph us. 189 00:19:20,368 --> 00:19:24,544 I said �I wouldn't do that to you, Sam." 190 00:19:24,705 --> 00:19:28,050 Hesmd �But they do, you know, Jim. They do." 191 00:19:28,209 --> 00:19:32,305 He was afraid of people stalking him in the street, 192 00:19:32,463 --> 00:19:35,842 which happened, of course, in the last years of his life 193 00:19:36,008 --> 00:19:39,433 when he was in Tiers Temps, the retirement home. 194 00:19:39,595 --> 00:19:41,893 He was photographed in the street 195 00:19:42,056 --> 00:19:47,813 and he had that response of putting his arms across his chest 196 00:19:47,978 --> 00:19:54,782 as if he was being stabbed again as he had been in the chest in 1938. 197 00:19:56,654 --> 00:20:00,704 This abhorrence of perception extended even to interviews. 198 00:20:02,284 --> 00:20:04,912 We were making a documentary, 199 00:20:05,079 --> 00:20:07,707 Buster Keaton: A Hard Act to Follow, 200 00:20:08,457 --> 00:20:11,836 David Gill and I for Thames Television, 201 00:20:12,002 --> 00:20:17,884 and I'd heard how difficult he was as far as interviews go, 202 00:20:18,050 --> 00:20:23,477 but on the other hand, what's a stamp to France? 203 00:20:23,639 --> 00:20:26,939 Let's see what happens if I just ask him. 204 00:20:27,101 --> 00:20:31,151 And to my amazement I got this card, 205 00:20:31,313 --> 00:20:37,195 very, very tiny neat handwriting, which said �I could meet you as follows: 206 00:20:37,361 --> 00:20:43,915 �Thursday, October the 16th at 11 o'clock, Hotel PLM, Boulevard Saint-Jacques. 207 00:20:44,076 --> 00:20:46,579 �No camera or tape recorder." 208 00:20:47,747 --> 00:20:50,671 Beckett's aversion to being recorded in any medium 209 00:20:50,875 --> 00:20:54,049 collided with his parallel fascination with cinema 210 00:20:54,211 --> 00:20:58,387 and these conflicting impulses drove the creation of Film. 211 00:20:58,549 --> 00:21:03,851 Beckett divided himself in two and wove the halves into the work's very fabric. 212 00:21:04,847 --> 00:21:08,101 The problem was how to realize his conception 213 00:21:08,267 --> 00:21:13,148 and his lack of technical experience was no small concern in this regard. 214 00:21:14,565 --> 00:21:16,863 As a young man in the 1930's, 215 00:21:17,026 --> 00:21:21,827 Beckett had been influenced by the early writings of the German theoretician Rudolf Arnheim, 216 00:21:21,989 --> 00:21:26,711 in whom he found a formal rigor that echoed his lessons from Joyce. 217 00:21:26,869 --> 00:21:29,338 In particular, he loved the Soviet cinema, 218 00:21:29,497 --> 00:21:34,469 an interest which culminated in a 1936 letter to Sergei Eisenstein 219 00:21:34,627 --> 00:21:38,598 seeking admission to the VGIK film school in Moscow. 220 00:21:39,632 --> 00:21:42,351 As he confessed to his friend Thomas McGreevey, 221 00:21:42,510 --> 00:21:45,480 �What I would learn under a person like Pudovkin 222 00:21:45,638 --> 00:21:50,018 �is how to handle a camera, the higher trues of editing, and so on, 223 00:21:50,184 --> 00:21:53,529 �of which I know as little as of quantity surveying.� 224 00:21:54,855 --> 00:21:57,904 Eisenstein never replied to Beckett's inquiry 225 00:21:58,067 --> 00:22:03,039 and so Beckett's life turned in other directions... until Film. 226 00:22:03,197 --> 00:22:09,500 By then, Beckett had a wealth of ideas but no experience whatsoever of production. 227 00:22:09,662 --> 00:22:14,634 Inexperience led to the tangible fear he expressed to Schneider. 228 00:22:15,835 --> 00:22:19,430 He knew full well his concept would be difficult to realize 229 00:22:19,588 --> 00:22:23,593 and so went through multiple revisions as he refined his script. 230 00:22:24,385 --> 00:22:28,686 Well, the manuscript itself is interesting because... the first manuscript notebook... 231 00:22:28,848 --> 00:22:32,022 because it shows Beckett playing around with a lot of ideas. 232 00:22:32,184 --> 00:22:37,657 It's very clearly the case that he didn't sit down with a fully formed idea in his head. 233 00:22:37,815 --> 00:22:41,240 This is marked by the different pens, the different inks that he uses 234 00:22:41,402 --> 00:22:44,451 across the first 25 pages of the notebook. 235 00:22:44,613 --> 00:22:48,083 So you've got the black original 236 00:22:48,242 --> 00:22:53,499 and then, as it were, blue and red inks were used to make revisions. 237 00:22:53,664 --> 00:22:58,636 The first draft in Beckett's archive in Reading was completed in five days 238 00:22:58,794 --> 00:23:02,924 and is filled with questions to himself, followed by answers, 239 00:23:03,090 --> 00:23:05,218 another splitting of persona. 240 00:23:05,384 --> 00:23:11,266 He at one point writes �Sounds... Film sounds throughout?�, question mark, 241 00:23:11,432 --> 00:23:15,608 and then writes afterwards �No�, in a different hand, in a different ink. 242 00:23:15,769 --> 00:23:18,568 So he goes back and answers his own questions, essentially. 243 00:23:19,857 --> 00:23:26,661 He initially set the film in 1913, a number crossed out and replaced by 1929, 244 00:23:26,822 --> 00:23:31,794 a date set squarely at the transition from silent to sound cinema. 245 00:23:32,995 --> 00:23:36,545 The changes, in Beckett's famously indecipherable hand, 246 00:23:36,707 --> 00:23:40,086 suggest a close consideration of every formal dimension, 247 00:23:40,252 --> 00:23:42,550 and a work in active formation. 248 00:23:44,089 --> 00:23:47,218 It was to change still more in production. 249 00:23:59,939 --> 00:24:04,820 At the time, Alan Schneider was already the premier American interpreter of Beckett's work 250 00:24:04,985 --> 00:24:07,113 and an obvious choice as director. 251 00:24:07,279 --> 00:24:12,206 He had helmed the American premiere of Godot in Miami in 1956, 252 00:24:12,368 --> 00:24:15,417 a version that starred Bert Lahr and Tom Ewell 253 00:24:15,579 --> 00:24:20,335 and was misleadingly billed as �the laugh sensation of two continents.� 254 00:24:20,501 --> 00:24:22,799 It flopped terribly. 255 00:24:22,962 --> 00:24:25,056 That was basically it. 256 00:24:25,214 --> 00:24:27,888 We opened and it was a catastrophe. 257 00:24:28,050 --> 00:24:31,350 Everybody came looking like Christmas trees, 258 00:24:31,512 --> 00:24:37,690 the women all dressed and decked with jewels and dresses and God knows what 259 00:24:37,851 --> 00:24:42,106 because it was the opening of the Coconut Grove Playhouse. 260 00:24:42,272 --> 00:24:46,277 And about 95% of the people walked out. 261 00:24:47,611 --> 00:24:52,333 And so we were tarred and feathered by everybody 262 00:24:52,491 --> 00:24:59,090 except Tennessee Williams was there and one critic 263 00:24:59,248 --> 00:25:05,381 and both of them said this truly is a masterpiece. 264 00:25:07,423 --> 00:25:11,098 When it moved to Broadway, Schneider was replaced by Herbert Berghof 265 00:25:11,260 --> 00:25:16,391 but he had earned Beckett's confidence through his meticulous attention to the script in Miami. 266 00:25:16,557 --> 00:25:20,778 I knew him. He was a friendly, charming man 267 00:25:20,936 --> 00:25:24,281 and to me it seemed very improbable to be the director of Beckett 268 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,866 because he was not a Beckettian character at all, 269 00:25:29,028 --> 00:25:33,249 he was very American, very generous, very kind... 270 00:25:33,407 --> 00:25:39,756 kind of loud, a nice man, and Beckett really liked him a lot. 271 00:25:41,123 --> 00:25:44,297 For the 1961 television production of Godot, 272 00:25:44,460 --> 00:25:48,510 it was Schneider who directed Zero Mostel and Burgess Meredith. 273 00:25:48,672 --> 00:25:53,303 This was, in fact, Schneider's only cinematic experience prior to Film. 274 00:25:54,053 --> 00:25:58,149 If Beckett was on edge before embarking, Schneider was terrified. 275 00:26:00,100 --> 00:26:05,948 In the spring of 1964 he was in Minneapolis directing a production of The Glass Menagerie. 276 00:26:06,565 --> 00:26:11,446 Chaplin had declined the role of O, and they had also lost their cinematographer, 277 00:26:11,612 --> 00:26:14,661 but Rosset was set on shooting in June. 278 00:26:15,574 --> 00:26:17,952 On May 1st, Schneider wrote to him: 279 00:26:18,869 --> 00:26:22,419 �Dear Barney, I know my own limitations very clearly 280 00:26:22,623 --> 00:26:25,217 �and unless I have adequate time to think and prepare, 281 00:26:25,417 --> 00:26:28,261 �I am simply going to be unable to do any kind of a job 282 00:26:28,420 --> 00:26:30,764 �in a medium so totally unfamiliar to me. 283 00:26:30,923 --> 00:26:33,301 �Beyond this, to lose Arthur Ornitz 284 00:26:33,467 --> 00:26:38,223 �in exchange for a totally unknown camera director, no matter how recommended by you, 285 00:26:38,388 --> 00:26:39,935 �adds to the anxiety. 286 00:26:40,099 --> 00:26:42,522 �L am practically reeling on the ropes already.� 287 00:26:44,269 --> 00:26:48,240 Schneider understood that the production team was crucial. 288 00:26:48,398 --> 00:26:53,495 When you end up seeing something on the screen, you know, you say, �a film by...,� forget it. 289 00:26:53,654 --> 00:26:56,328 And that means any one of them, you know. 290 00:26:57,491 --> 00:26:59,493 A film by a lot of people 291 00:26:59,660 --> 00:27:02,834 who merged their talents together 292 00:27:02,996 --> 00:27:08,594 and made a good picture, or made one not so good. 293 00:27:10,921 --> 00:27:13,891 Arthur Ornitz had likely been their choice of cinematographer 294 00:27:14,049 --> 00:27:17,053 due to his work on Shirley Clarke's The Connection, 295 00:27:17,219 --> 00:27:19,893 which featured a swirling subjective camera 296 00:27:20,055 --> 00:27:24,526 that would have been perfect preparation for the roaming Eye of E. 297 00:27:25,519 --> 00:27:28,068 Another likely choice would have been Wexler, 298 00:27:28,230 --> 00:27:33,487 who was not only Barney's close friend, but a pioneer in the use of handheld camera, 299 00:27:33,652 --> 00:27:37,623 for which he'd win an Oscar on Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? 300 00:27:39,283 --> 00:27:44,631 Wexler was also keenly interested in the nature and impact of the camera. 301 00:27:44,788 --> 00:27:51,922 In 1968 he would direct the classic Medium Cool, which dove directly into ethics of cinematography. 302 00:27:56,508 --> 00:28:00,012 The whole world is watching! The whole world is watching! 303 00:28:08,478 --> 00:28:13,075 Despite his seemingly excellent fit, he was unavailable at the time. 304 00:28:13,984 --> 00:28:17,614 In the end, this proved one of the production's luckiest breaks 305 00:28:17,779 --> 00:28:21,704 in that it led to a cinematographer perhaps more suited to the job than anyone... 306 00:28:22,993 --> 00:28:26,497 the third and youngest of cinema's Kaufman brothers. 307 00:28:26,663 --> 00:28:29,792 Boris Kaufman was personally sought out by Rosset, 308 00:28:29,958 --> 00:28:34,179 whose favorite film was Jean Vigo's anarchist parable, Zero For Conduct, 309 00:28:34,338 --> 00:28:37,262 shot by Kaufman in 1933. 310 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,190 Rosset loved the film's anarchist poetry 311 00:28:48,352 --> 00:28:53,859 but it was other aspects of Kaufman's work that made him perfect for their project. 312 00:28:58,820 --> 00:29:03,291 His exquisite sense of light would lead to the mystery Beckett loved. 313 00:29:15,212 --> 00:29:21,436 And most critically, self-reflexive cinema was literally in his blood. 314 00:29:21,593 --> 00:29:28,101 Here we see the only known photo of Kaufman, on the left, with his brothers, Mikhail and Denis... 315 00:29:28,267 --> 00:29:33,569 better known to history as �Dziga Vertov�, an untranslatable Russian pun 316 00:29:33,730 --> 00:29:39,032 that at once means �spinning top� and suggests the turning of a film reel. 317 00:29:40,487 --> 00:29:48,487 Vertov's Man with a Movie Camera was revolutionary in its celebration of film as an expression of life itself. 318 00:29:50,330 --> 00:29:55,678 The title figure and principal cinematographer was none other than their brother, Mikhail. 319 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,675 Chelovek s Kino Apparatum remains Vertov's most famous work 320 00:30:00,841 --> 00:30:04,971 but was in fact just one stage in an ongoing investigation. 321 00:30:05,846 --> 00:30:11,228 In 1924, his early newsreel work had culminated in a film called Kino-eye, 322 00:30:11,393 --> 00:30:14,818 which exalted the camera's extension of human sight. 323 00:30:15,897 --> 00:30:23,031 In so doing, it also showed its potential to heighten the existential dread that Beckett found in Berkeley. 324 00:30:25,157 --> 00:30:29,628 Here we see outwardly the problems Beckett felt inwardly. 325 00:30:31,955 --> 00:30:38,338 Lurking under Vertov's celebration is an existential question waiting to be asked. 326 00:30:42,883 --> 00:30:46,729 If his younger brother Boris was not the theorist that Vertov was, 327 00:30:46,887 --> 00:30:49,185 there remains a direct connection. 328 00:30:49,348 --> 00:30:55,526 Vertov visited Boris in France, and both brothers wrote him as he was learning his craft. 329 00:30:55,687 --> 00:30:59,942 Boris said �Mikhail taught me cinematography by mail.� 330 00:31:02,110 --> 00:31:08,538 Here we see Vigo and Kaufman's 1930 city symphony, A propos de Nice. 331 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,760 After the war, Kaufman would re-invent his career in the U.S., 332 00:31:22,923 --> 00:31:26,678 where he won the Academy Award for his brilliant location cinematography 333 00:31:26,843 --> 00:31:29,847 on Elia Kazan's On the Waterfront. 334 00:31:31,348 --> 00:31:34,602 So Schneider need hardly have worried about Kaufman. 335 00:31:34,768 --> 00:31:36,896 Yet that was only one concern. 336 00:31:37,729 --> 00:31:42,451 By May 17th, he was still in Minneapolis and things were hardly resolved. 337 00:31:42,609 --> 00:31:44,327 He wrote again to Rosset: 338 00:31:45,946 --> 00:31:50,497 �Dear Barney, the jam-up is bound to occur once I get back to New York. 339 00:31:50,659 --> 00:31:54,004 �We will all have made a movie and wind up wishing we hadn't. 340 00:31:54,162 --> 00:31:59,840 �You will hate me, I will hate you, and Sam will be compassionate to both of us. 341 00:32:00,877 --> 00:32:04,927 �We need more than a miracle to pull this off; we need half a dozen.� 342 00:32:06,550 --> 00:32:11,021 With Kaufman in place, the biggest problem was the lead role of O. 343 00:32:11,972 --> 00:32:13,394 Along with Chaplin, 344 00:32:13,557 --> 00:32:17,858 they had approached both Jackie McGowran and Zero Mostel unsuccessfully. 345 00:32:19,104 --> 00:32:20,526 Schneider continued, 346 00:32:20,689 --> 00:32:26,696 �Why, why take this property and throw it down the drain this way? Please understand. 347 00:32:26,862 --> 00:32:28,614 �Please. Call me.� 348 00:32:30,699 --> 00:32:36,706 This time, his entreaties convinced Rosset and production was postponed till July. 349 00:32:37,956 --> 00:32:42,086 But they still had no one lined up for the key role of O. 350 00:32:45,505 --> 00:32:50,932 As their desperation peaked, a strangely fitting solution arose... 351 00:32:52,637 --> 00:32:56,107 silent era genius, Buster Keaton. 352 00:32:57,684 --> 00:33:03,407 In 1956, he'd been offered the role of Lucky in the ill-fated Miami Godot production 353 00:33:03,565 --> 00:33:07,615 and turned it down, saying of the script, he �didn't get it.� 354 00:33:08,528 --> 00:33:11,122 In other respects, he was the right choice. 355 00:33:12,157 --> 00:33:17,584 Keaton's screen persona, unlike Chaplins tramp, was the expressionless �stone face� 356 00:33:17,746 --> 00:33:22,468 which, in its resistance to interpretation, opened itself... 357 00:33:23,710 --> 00:33:25,712 to interpretation. 358 00:33:27,672 --> 00:33:31,518 In this inscrutability, he was well suited to Becketfs universe 359 00:33:31,676 --> 00:33:38,400 wherein Godot, as one example, was at once nothing and everything. 360 00:33:39,518 --> 00:33:43,523 More so, no film artist in any genre 361 00:33:43,688 --> 00:33:49,445 could lay claim to the formal inquiry and perfection in Keaton's work. 362 00:34:05,085 --> 00:34:12,139 If one can imagine an American slapstick counterpart to Vertov's Russian self-reflexive cinema, 363 00:34:12,300 --> 00:34:14,769 it would be none other than Keaton. 364 00:34:43,164 --> 00:34:49,297 Like Vertov, his interests were demonstrated time and again across multiple films. 365 00:36:32,190 --> 00:36:36,161 Keaton also had another, apocryphal, connection to Beckett. 366 00:36:36,319 --> 00:36:40,916 In the early 1950's he had performed at the Cirque Medrano in Paris, 367 00:36:41,074 --> 00:36:43,998 concurrent to the original run of Godot. 368 00:36:45,161 --> 00:36:51,214 James Knowlson's meticulously researched biography documents that Beckett had seen him perform there. 369 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,048 Yet a mystery surrounds his visit. 370 00:36:57,716 --> 00:37:03,143 In Kevin Brownlow's 1986 interview, Beckett claimed to have never seen him. 371 00:37:03,304 --> 00:37:05,682 Was Beckett's memory at fault? 372 00:37:05,849 --> 00:37:10,400 In most regards, his memory was excellent, even in his later years. 373 00:37:11,646 --> 00:37:14,069 What then, about Brownlow's? 374 00:37:15,233 --> 00:37:20,865 I used to have a photographic memory for conversation. 375 00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:24,785 I remember doing one with Adolph Zukor 376 00:37:24,951 --> 00:37:30,583 and came out and tested the machine and it hadn't worked 377 00:37:30,749 --> 00:37:33,502 and I didn't have anything. 378 00:37:33,668 --> 00:37:39,175 So I immediately sat down and wrote it as I remembered it 379 00:37:39,340 --> 00:37:47,100 and then went to have the tape recorder repaired and it was there all the time, thank God. 380 00:37:47,265 --> 00:37:53,147 But the difference between the transcript that I wrote immediately aftenrvards 381 00:37:53,313 --> 00:37:55,111 and what I got from the tape 382 00:37:55,273 --> 00:38:00,530 was, I think, the difference between something like 20 pages and 50 pages. 383 00:38:00,695 --> 00:38:02,663 You know, that's how much you lose. 384 00:38:04,574 --> 00:38:08,670 There's one other notable instance where Beckett's memory proved mysterious. 385 00:38:09,496 --> 00:38:14,172 He claimed unfamiliarity with a certain Balzac play called Mercadet. 386 00:38:15,418 --> 00:38:18,262 The play was a farce written in 1851 387 00:38:18,421 --> 00:38:25,600 and centered on a group of creditors awaiting payment from an absent character named Godeau. 388 00:38:27,180 --> 00:38:29,729 While it's certainly plausible that Beckett hadn't read it, 389 00:38:29,891 --> 00:38:34,818 one should remember that not only was Beckett one of the century's most erudite authors, 390 00:38:34,938 --> 00:38:38,863 he had once actively taught Balzac's works in his courses. 391 00:38:39,943 --> 00:38:43,072 I have several times found out 392 00:38:43,238 --> 00:38:47,288 that he had actually said, perhaps truthfully, 393 00:38:47,450 --> 00:38:49,578 that he didn't know something 394 00:38:49,744 --> 00:38:56,719 when subsequently we have discovered that he has pages and pages of notes. 395 00:38:56,876 --> 00:39:00,756 He may have been forgetting 396 00:39:00,922 --> 00:39:08,431 but I have maintained on a number of occasions that I thought he was conveniently forgetting something. 397 00:39:10,431 --> 00:39:15,028 Whatever the truth may be, Keaton would provide an answer to their problems. 398 00:39:15,895 --> 00:39:21,743 Keaton represented an ideal for Beckett and they found him... 399 00:39:21,901 --> 00:39:26,953 He was not getting as many parts, he was a little bit on the decline of his career. 400 00:39:27,115 --> 00:39:28,492 They found him in Canada. 401 00:39:28,658 --> 00:39:32,253 He was shooting a movie, I think in Montreal. They got him there. 402 00:39:33,162 --> 00:39:36,086 Schneider flew to Los Angeles to meet him. 403 00:39:36,249 --> 00:39:38,672 He takes up the story here. 404 00:39:39,752 --> 00:39:41,379 �It was a weird experience. 405 00:39:41,546 --> 00:39:43,924 �Late one night, I arrived at Keaton's house 406 00:39:44,090 --> 00:39:47,685 �to discover that I had interrupted a four-handed poker game. 407 00:39:47,844 --> 00:39:50,347 �L was told that the game was imaginary, 408 00:39:50,513 --> 00:39:55,360 �with long-since departed Irving Thalberg, Nicholas Schenk, and somebody else, 409 00:39:55,518 --> 00:40:00,991 �had been going on since 1927 and Thalberg owed Keaton over two million dollars, 410 00:40:01,149 --> 00:40:03,243 �imaginary, I hoped.� 411 00:40:04,444 --> 00:40:08,915 Keaton had been as befuddled by the script for Film as he had been by Godot 412 00:40:09,073 --> 00:40:12,577 but was in need of money and agreed to take the part. 413 00:40:36,684 --> 00:40:40,063 Keaton wasn't the only one trekking to New York for the shoot. 414 00:40:40,229 --> 00:40:41,776 Beckett was as well. 415 00:40:42,774 --> 00:40:44,401 This was no small news. 416 00:40:44,567 --> 00:40:48,071 He had studiously avoided visiting America previously 417 00:40:48,237 --> 00:40:50,490 and would never return. 418 00:40:53,493 --> 00:40:54,995 On Friday, July 10th 419 00:40:55,161 --> 00:40:58,916 he was greeted at Kennedy Airport by Grove assistant Judith Schmidt 420 00:40:59,082 --> 00:41:02,882 and they immediately boarded a private plane Barney rented for the occasion. 421 00:41:03,044 --> 00:41:07,971 Rosset recalls that it �was very small plane and he arrived at East Hampton at night. 422 00:41:08,132 --> 00:41:10,851 �They put up spotlights on the runway!� 423 00:41:11,594 --> 00:41:14,973 Rosset greeted them and took them to his home nearby, 424 00:41:15,139 --> 00:41:19,269 a Quonset hut designed by architect Pierre Chareau. 425 00:41:19,435 --> 00:41:22,530 Its previous owner was the painter Robert Motherwell 426 00:41:22,689 --> 00:41:27,695 who commissioned it from Chareau and in 1951 sold it to Rosset. 427 00:41:29,821 --> 00:41:34,042 After some sleep, they began a series of intense production meetings, 428 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,952 interrupted by tennis. 429 00:41:37,620 --> 00:41:40,499 At this point, something unusual happened. 430 00:41:40,665 --> 00:41:45,171 Sorry, what didn't you approve of? I'm not quite clear. If you could explain that. 431 00:41:45,336 --> 00:41:48,510 - What? - You just said you didn't approve of something... 432 00:41:48,673 --> 00:41:53,349 Well, there's a certain point that I... Yes, I don't know if it was in this trip. 433 00:41:53,511 --> 00:41:57,061 He... There was a camera. 434 00:41:57,223 --> 00:42:03,276 Not a camera on, but something on and it was sneaked in. 435 00:42:03,396 --> 00:42:08,653 It was like listening, listening to secrets, you know. 436 00:42:08,818 --> 00:42:14,575 But this is my impression of it. I don't remember actually what happened. 437 00:42:14,741 --> 00:42:17,961 So Beckett did or didn't know? 438 00:42:18,119 --> 00:42:22,420 It was something that was done when Beckett did not know. 439 00:42:23,082 --> 00:42:24,082 Oh! 440 00:42:25,001 --> 00:42:29,802 Rosset wanted to record the meetings but there was the expected issue of Beckett's reticence. 441 00:42:31,132 --> 00:42:37,265 Just as he dreaded the capture of images, so did he dread the capture of sound. 442 00:42:38,639 --> 00:42:41,643 I spoke with Beckett scholar Stan Gontarski. 443 00:42:42,310 --> 00:42:47,908 Beckett was talking freely, but it was quite clear to me he didn't know that such a tape existed. 444 00:42:48,066 --> 00:42:50,740 Barney said he just came to these meetings, 445 00:42:50,902 --> 00:42:54,702 he had a hand-held recorder, even then in 1964, 446 00:42:54,864 --> 00:42:56,912 set it up under the table. 447 00:42:57,075 --> 00:43:01,330 - So Barney was operating the recorder himself? - Barney was operating the recorder himself. 448 00:43:01,496 --> 00:43:06,093 Evidently he had a small enough one, a small enough tape recorder in 1964, 449 00:43:06,250 --> 00:43:07,968 that it was unobtrusive. 450 00:43:08,711 --> 00:43:15,469 Look, I love Barney, and I love his wife Astrid, but Barney was... 451 00:43:15,635 --> 00:43:17,729 did things that I didn't approve of. 452 00:43:17,887 --> 00:43:23,940 I mean, it was like anything is forgivable as long as it's in a good cause. 453 00:43:24,102 --> 00:43:25,820 And he decided it was a good cause. 454 00:43:25,978 --> 00:43:32,236 I mean, Barney was always surprising him with various kinds of matters. 455 00:43:32,401 --> 00:43:38,875 Barney would show up every once in a while in Paris with a photographer that Beckett knew nothing about 456 00:43:39,033 --> 00:43:40,956 and Beckett reluctantly went along. 457 00:43:41,035 --> 00:43:48,294 He was really quite cooperative with people who were trying to do honest, reputable work. 458 00:43:49,502 --> 00:43:53,928 When Beckett allowed his photo to be taken, he was extremely photogenic. 459 00:43:54,966 --> 00:43:58,345 Similarly, author Mel Gussow wrote, 460 00:43:58,511 --> 00:44:05,235 �When he spoke, he exuded Irish lyricism. Our loss is that his voice was not recorded. 461 00:44:06,144 --> 00:44:10,650 �Beckett's last tape, if it existed, would be a marvelous legacy.� 462 00:44:12,608 --> 00:44:18,456 Finally I just told him that Barney had taped a lot of their conversations 463 00:44:18,614 --> 00:44:21,458 and I would like to transcribe them. 464 00:44:21,617 --> 00:44:26,589 And he wrote back and said, sure, but he'd rather I not include everything 465 00:44:26,747 --> 00:44:30,092 so that what we had was an edited version. 466 00:44:30,835 --> 00:44:34,055 - So he did give his blessing to it? - He did. 467 00:44:36,632 --> 00:44:39,511 Rosset gave me the tapes before he died. 468 00:44:40,386 --> 00:44:45,984 But as I never met Beckett myself, I can't say whether he'd bless their use or not. 469 00:44:47,143 --> 00:44:50,192 Let's now listen to Beckett and Schneider. 470 00:44:50,980 --> 00:44:54,701 O's vision is really a different world. Everything becomes slower, softer. 471 00:44:55,484 --> 00:44:57,407 That's the quality we're looking for. 472 00:44:59,989 --> 00:45:02,117 But you don't mean slow motion. 473 00:45:02,283 --> 00:45:05,002 - No, that's a trick. - No, not slow motion. 474 00:45:07,330 --> 00:45:13,087 They're discussing the respective visions of O and E, which lay at the heart of the film. 475 00:45:15,004 --> 00:45:23,004 Well, the space in so far as... The space in the picture is a function of two perceptions, 476 00:45:29,393 --> 00:45:31,145 both of which are diseased. 477 00:45:36,609 --> 00:45:39,579 He later elaborates on the two perceptions. 478 00:45:40,488 --> 00:45:46,040 Examplifying these to try and find a technical, a technical equivalent, 479 00:45:46,619 --> 00:45:52,877 a cinema equivalent, for visual appetite and visual distaste. 480 00:45:54,126 --> 00:45:58,131 These two perceptions, visual appetite and distaste, 481 00:45:58,297 --> 00:46:05,181 are a direct extension of Beckett's own love/hate relationship with the nature of recorded images. 482 00:46:06,347 --> 00:46:10,443 It was Kaufman's task to interpret these perceptions technically. 483 00:46:12,019 --> 00:46:18,368 Sam, how can you judge abnormality unless you have normality? 484 00:46:18,526 --> 00:46:20,073 What is your criteria? 485 00:46:20,611 --> 00:46:23,490 h' you have two abnormal points of view... 486 00:46:23,656 --> 00:46:26,956 Normality is what they're previously associated with. 487 00:46:28,286 --> 00:46:34,589 There is no norm within the picture since there 'rs no normal eye in the picture. 488 00:46:34,750 --> 00:46:36,670 There can't be any normal vision in the picture. 489 00:46:38,713 --> 00:46:42,308 The norm is in the spectator's personal experience 490 00:46:43,467 --> 00:46:50,100 with which he will necessarily compare these new experiences. 491 00:46:53,811 --> 00:47:00,695 What Beckett isn't saying is that his own experience of sight was suffering in 1964. 492 00:47:00,860 --> 00:47:06,037 At the time when he was doing Film in New York, 493 00:47:06,198 --> 00:47:10,544 he had problems with his own blurred vision through his cataracts, 494 00:47:10,703 --> 00:47:16,085 so that this was something which was not just a philosophical concern of Beckett 495 00:47:16,250 --> 00:47:22,428 but a practical reason for being interested in vision. 496 00:47:23,507 --> 00:47:26,431 Myth has it that Beckett finally abandoned tennis 497 00:47:26,594 --> 00:47:31,441 after his frustrations seeing the ball on Rosset's court in East Hampton. 498 00:47:31,599 --> 00:47:35,445 For Beckett at the time of production, distortion was the norm. 499 00:47:37,104 --> 00:47:43,612 The challenge was establishing two distinct distortions, expressed through cinematic form. 500 00:47:43,986 --> 00:47:46,489 Nobody's asking O to cut at any, at any point. 501 00:47:47,531 --> 00:47:51,252 E's the cutter and O's the panner. Isn't that the idea we've reached? 502 00:47:53,537 --> 00:47:55,790 It wasn't as clear to everyone else. 503 00:47:56,832 --> 00:48:00,336 I think that we're confusing two ideas. 504 00:48:00,503 --> 00:48:05,930 One is the sort of conceptual idea and the other is the physical idea. 505 00:48:07,510 --> 00:48:11,390 Over the course of the meetings, confusion dominated. 506 00:48:11,555 --> 00:48:14,308 Here we hear producer Milt Perlman. 507 00:48:15,142 --> 00:48:18,897 I mean, O sees everything, you know. This is what threw us... 508 00:48:19,188 --> 00:48:20,748 No, he doesn't see everything. 509 00:48:21,107 --> 00:48:24,987 In the street he sees nothing at all, except very exceptionally. 510 00:48:26,070 --> 00:48:27,947 Because he's blind. He's blind. 511 00:48:28,072 --> 00:48:30,166 Right, but when he does perceive, ifs very... 512 00:48:30,324 --> 00:48:31,325 O or E? 513 00:48:31,492 --> 00:48:32,539 O! 514 00:48:32,701 --> 00:48:35,580 No! E! E! E! 515 00:48:37,415 --> 00:48:40,919 O never sees anything acutely. Never! 516 00:48:41,085 --> 00:48:43,964 Right. This is what threw us a few minutes ago... 517 00:48:44,130 --> 00:48:46,370 No, I never said that, I couldnt have said that. 518 00:48:46,841 --> 00:48:51,017 Tensions ran high and fault lines became apparent. 519 00:48:51,387 --> 00:48:53,810 Listen, I still say, I think... 520 00:48:53,973 --> 00:48:58,444 Between now and next Thursday, Boris ought to think about it some more. 521 00:48:58,602 --> 00:49:02,482 We know what Sam's intention, Milt, is. We know what it is. 522 00:49:04,483 --> 00:49:06,702 I think Boris is clear. 523 00:49:06,861 --> 00:49:10,616 He's not clear on how to accomplish it, he's clear on the intention. 524 00:49:12,783 --> 00:49:15,332 I must admit... 525 00:49:16,454 --> 00:49:23,133 I understand the intent more intuitively than rationally. 526 00:49:24,462 --> 00:49:30,469 At a certain point, one imagines all the abstract conversation wore thin on Kaufman. 527 00:49:31,051 --> 00:49:33,679 Let's read the script. Let's read it. 528 00:49:39,393 --> 00:49:44,615 On Monday, July 13th, they commenced a week's pre-production in New York City. 529 00:49:44,773 --> 00:49:49,995 Kaufman shot a series of camera tests for the distorted vision of O. 530 00:49:50,154 --> 00:49:57,003 By varying filters, diffusion, and treatments of the lens, he sought to achieve the blurring Beckett sought. 531 00:49:57,161 --> 00:50:00,506 Let's listen again to how Beckett described it. 532 00:50:01,081 --> 00:50:05,712 O's vision is really a different world. Everything becomes slower and softer. 533 00:50:05,878 --> 00:50:08,222 That's the quality we're looking for. 534 00:50:12,259 --> 00:50:15,889 Beckett was aware they risked mere gimmickry. 535 00:50:16,055 --> 00:50:19,559 But you don't mean slow motion. That's a trick. 536 00:50:19,725 --> 00:50:21,727 No, not slow motion. 537 00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:26,490 Despite the comments about both visions being diseased, 538 00:50:26,649 --> 00:50:30,870 in the end they did nothing technically to distort the shots from E's perspective. 539 00:50:33,531 --> 00:50:38,583 Its sharpness becomes pronounced simply by contrast with O's. 540 00:50:38,744 --> 00:50:40,746 They're intertwined. 541 00:50:41,997 --> 00:50:43,544 Schneider said... 542 00:50:43,707 --> 00:50:48,964 E has no reality except through O and O has no reality except through E. 543 00:50:49,129 --> 00:50:51,803 I mean, we only can see O through E's point of view. 544 00:50:52,841 --> 00:50:58,723 So the cinematic analogy for visual appetite becomes sharpness of focus. 545 00:51:02,518 --> 00:51:06,568 Numerous filtration methods were tested for O's sight, however. 546 00:51:07,439 --> 00:51:12,946 In this test, a Vaseline smear seems to evoke the sense of an eye's iris. 547 00:51:23,372 --> 00:51:28,720 Here we see a blurry Dick Seaver, who wrote the 1952 article in Merlin, 548 00:51:28,877 --> 00:51:32,051 now working as one of the main editors at Grove. 549 00:51:39,638 --> 00:51:42,642 Kaufman's tests were only part of the week's events. 550 00:51:43,392 --> 00:51:47,238 Another major date was the meeting of Beckett and Keaton. 551 00:51:51,609 --> 00:51:54,362 Let's let Schneider resume the story. 552 00:51:59,116 --> 00:52:04,498 �That meeting was one of those occasions which seemed inevitable before they take place, 553 00:52:04,663 --> 00:52:08,634 �impossible when they do, and unbelievable afterward. 554 00:52:09,918 --> 00:52:15,425 �When Sam and I arrived, Keaton was drinking a can of beer and watching a baseball game. 555 00:52:15,591 --> 00:52:18,811 �Now and then, Sam or I would try to say something 556 00:52:18,969 --> 00:52:23,395 �to show some interest in Keaton or just to keep the conversation going. 557 00:52:23,557 --> 00:52:28,028 �It was no use. Keaton would get right back to the Yankees. 558 00:52:28,187 --> 00:52:31,862 �'Do you have any questions about the script, Buster?' 559 00:52:32,024 --> 00:52:33,116 '�No.' 560 00:52:33,984 --> 00:52:36,737 �What did you think about the film when you first read it?' 561 00:52:38,947 --> 00:52:40,824 �Long pause. 562 00:52:42,159 --> 00:52:45,083 �'It was harrowing. And hopeless.� 563 00:52:47,289 --> 00:52:51,715 Here, Kevin Brownlow recounts Beckett's own description. 564 00:52:54,088 --> 00:52:58,719 I wrote down the notes as soon as I came out of the meeting 565 00:52:58,884 --> 00:53:02,138 so this is what he said exactly. 566 00:53:02,304 --> 00:53:04,602 �Buster Keaton was inaccessible. 567 00:53:04,765 --> 00:53:07,735 �He had a poker mind as well as a poker face. 568 00:53:07,893 --> 00:53:11,864 �L doubt if he read the text. I don't think he approved of it or liked it. 569 00:53:12,022 --> 00:53:14,775 �But he agreed to do it and he was very competent." 570 00:53:16,985 --> 00:53:21,536 Beckett said he didn't communicate with him very well. 571 00:53:21,699 --> 00:53:23,246 He gave up trying- 572 00:53:23,867 --> 00:53:25,915 I know I never tried. 573 00:53:27,079 --> 00:53:29,923 Obviously Beckett and Alan Schneider 574 00:53:30,082 --> 00:53:38,082 used Keaton's famous stoic persona to their benefit. 575 00:53:38,340 --> 00:53:42,766 And yet they were not in any way disrespectful of him and I've read all about this. 576 00:53:42,928 --> 00:53:44,976 You know, they were admirers of his. 577 00:53:45,180 --> 00:53:48,901 So he just had to be what he was 578 00:53:50,227 --> 00:53:52,696 and that was all Beckett wanted. 579 00:53:53,981 --> 00:53:57,030 They never consulted Keaton on their technical problems. 580 00:53:58,193 --> 00:54:00,742 While on the one hand this was quite understandable 581 00:54:00,904 --> 00:54:04,534 given the differing nature of their work and his lack of interest in the material, 582 00:54:04,700 --> 00:54:08,170 on the other, his technical knowledge was profound. 583 00:54:08,954 --> 00:54:11,173 �He thought we were all crazy 584 00:54:11,331 --> 00:54:14,801 �but then he was a seasoned professional in films and we were all amateurs.� 585 00:54:16,295 --> 00:54:22,052 if Beckett and Schneider never truly engaged Keaton, neither did he truly open himself to them. 586 00:54:23,343 --> 00:54:27,519 The collaboration might be described as a kind of d�tente. 587 00:54:28,682 --> 00:54:34,030 But to fully realize a Beckett work required a different kind of approach. 588 00:54:34,146 --> 00:54:35,693 What you have to remember, 589 00:54:35,856 --> 00:54:39,406 every time that Alan had to do a Beckett play, 590 00:54:39,568 --> 00:54:42,947 he went over to Paris to see Sam. 591 00:54:44,615 --> 00:54:52,615 He didn't ask him, �What is this about?", but he wanted the local situation of doing it correctly. 592 00:54:52,956 --> 00:54:59,339 And then when Alan did it in New York he knew exactly what Sam wanted, 593 00:54:59,505 --> 00:55:04,102 which was not always easy, especially with actors. 594 00:55:05,010 --> 00:55:09,060 Working with Beckett was one of the hardest tasks in theater. 595 00:55:09,223 --> 00:55:15,651 He was very, very stern. Not just stern, sometimes brutal. 596 00:55:15,813 --> 00:55:21,741 He didn't really understand what someone like Billie Whitelaw was going through, for instance, 597 00:55:21,902 --> 00:55:24,121 when she was rehearsing Happy Days. 598 00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:29,119 Billie Whitelaw was the premier Beckettian performer of all. 599 00:55:29,284 --> 00:55:33,630 In Happy Days, she spent half the play buried up to her waist, 600 00:55:33,789 --> 00:55:36,542 the second up to her neck. 601 00:55:36,708 --> 00:55:40,133 She suffered extreme physical duress for the work 602 00:55:40,295 --> 00:55:45,301 and also developed an approach that defied common theatrical practice of the day. 603 00:55:47,135 --> 00:55:50,765 I didn't intellectualize at all, not at all. 604 00:55:50,931 --> 00:55:55,778 I did what he wanted, and I didn't argue with him. 605 00:55:55,936 --> 00:56:00,567 A lot of actors used to argue and say �Why should I do it like that? That doesn't make sense." 606 00:56:00,732 --> 00:56:07,035 and I just did what I felt he wanted to the best of my ability, you know. 607 00:56:07,197 --> 00:56:10,167 I think we did have an intuitive understanding. 608 00:56:11,118 --> 00:56:17,421 The most excruciating project of them all was Not I, where burial to the neck was insufficient. 609 00:56:18,500 --> 00:56:25,600 She had to be totally immobilized in black. 610 00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,349 And then very high up, 611 00:56:29,511 --> 00:56:34,187 everything black and tight and not move any muscle except her mouth. 612 00:56:35,350 --> 00:56:39,696 Not I culminated an aesthetic project of sensorial reduction 613 00:56:39,855 --> 00:56:44,531 that embodied in its very production the pain of life itself. 614 00:56:44,693 --> 00:56:47,367 What?... the buzzing?... yes... all the time the buzzing... 615 00:56:47,529 --> 00:56:49,202 so-called... in the ears... 616 00:56:49,364 --> 00:56:51,708 though of course actually... not in the ears at all... 617 00:56:51,867 --> 00:56:53,869 in the skull... dull roar in the skull... 618 00:56:54,036 --> 00:56:56,139 and all the time this ray or beam... like moonbeam... 619 00:56:56,163 --> 00:56:57,790 but probably not... certainly not... 620 00:56:57,956 --> 00:57:00,379 always the same spot... now bright... now shrouded... 621 00:57:00,542 --> 00:57:03,967 but always the same spot... as no moon could... no... no moon... 622 00:57:04,129 --> 00:57:06,473 just all part of the same wish to... torment... 623 00:57:06,632 --> 00:57:07,724 scream... 624 00:57:08,550 --> 00:57:09,597 then listen... 625 00:57:11,803 --> 00:57:12,975 scream again... 626 00:57:14,097 --> 00:57:15,724 then listen again... 627 00:59:48,543 --> 00:59:54,676 Film's shooting was marked by a schism that would inscribe itself in the finished work. 628 01:00:03,350 --> 01:00:06,149 Production began on July 20th. 629 01:00:07,020 --> 01:00:11,867 Their plan was to start with the biggest scene, and the only exterior. 630 01:00:12,901 --> 01:00:16,451 Schneider and his colleagues had advance-scouted several sites 631 01:00:16,613 --> 01:00:19,457 to find the perfect match to Beckett's vision, 632 01:00:19,616 --> 01:00:23,712 a dilapidated street with a �memorable wall.� 633 01:00:24,704 --> 01:00:30,882 At the production meeting, Kaufman needed more specifics and asked Schneider to describe it. 634 01:00:31,419 --> 01:00:34,639 What characteristics you looking for? 635 01:00:35,632 --> 01:00:37,851 A nice Jewish street. 636 01:00:40,262 --> 01:00:43,516 Beckett described his intentions like this: 637 01:00:44,057 --> 01:00:45,684 To me ifs not... unimportant. 638 01:00:45,851 --> 01:00:53,360 It's a kind of absolute street, absolute exterior, absolute transition, if there is such a thing, 639 01:00:53,525 --> 01:00:56,870 and an absolute interior, I mean, abstract almost. 640 01:00:59,656 --> 01:01:02,956 Here are some Polaroids of the sites considered. 641 01:01:04,411 --> 01:01:08,837 Questions arose as to how to attain the archetypal quality Beckett sought 642 01:01:08,999 --> 01:01:10,797 while using a real location. 643 01:01:12,252 --> 01:01:15,847 it we had created a studio street, then I think that's a different story. 644 01:01:16,047 --> 01:01:19,677 Yes, we'll have a considerable degree of non-realism in the street 645 01:01:19,801 --> 01:01:21,362 by the way we're treating it, haven't we? 646 01:01:21,386 --> 01:01:23,889 Not the physical street, the people in it. 647 01:01:24,055 --> 01:01:27,810 Well, the whole set, the whole appearance of the thing is going to be extremely unreal. 648 01:01:28,185 --> 01:01:30,859 Yes... The elements are real. 649 01:01:31,062 --> 01:01:36,410 It's a real building, and real cobblestone... Listen, make it as... 650 01:01:37,194 --> 01:01:39,037 I think that looks fine. 651 01:01:40,530 --> 01:01:43,659 Despite the scouting, Beckett wasn't satisfied 652 01:01:43,825 --> 01:01:48,001 and while touring the city, himself found the scene's final location 653 01:01:48,163 --> 01:01:53,090 near the Fulton Street fish market in the shadow of the Brooklyn Bridge. 654 01:01:55,128 --> 01:02:00,009 The scene featured numerous couples all actively engaged in perception 655 01:02:00,175 --> 01:02:02,644 of themselves or the world. 656 01:02:04,221 --> 01:02:11,070 A 1979 BFI remake adapted the scene from the Grove Press edition of the screenplay. 657 01:02:33,291 --> 01:02:37,842 Yet Beckett was characteristically revising his conception of it. 658 01:02:38,630 --> 01:02:44,478 The published version was based on his manuscript of May 22nd, 1963. 659 01:02:44,636 --> 01:02:51,645 But on July 1st, 1964, things were in transition as production realities approached. 660 01:02:52,602 --> 01:02:55,151 By July 20th, the shooting date, 661 01:02:55,313 --> 01:03:00,740 a different and far more detailed version had arisen with completely different characters. 662 01:03:01,611 --> 01:03:04,911 Casting was uncertain till the last moment. 663 01:03:10,328 --> 01:03:16,586 Alan always wanted to see the odd off-Broadway, off-off Broadway theater 664 01:03:16,751 --> 01:03:22,474 because he saw talents that were not famous at that time. 665 01:03:22,632 --> 01:03:26,728 And very often those people, you know, got Broadway shows, 666 01:03:26,886 --> 01:03:30,516 or got into a movie or got into television or whatever. 667 01:03:30,682 --> 01:03:33,356 So that's how the casting came about, it was through Alan? 668 01:03:33,518 --> 01:03:36,863 Oh yeah, certainly Beckett doesn't know anybody. 669 01:03:38,606 --> 01:03:44,409 Here we see Couple 6, including then unknown character actress Sudie Bond, 670 01:03:44,571 --> 01:03:47,791 who later appeared alongside Sandy Dennis and Cher 671 01:03:47,949 --> 01:03:51,169 in Come Back to the Five and Dime, Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean. 672 01:03:53,496 --> 01:03:55,590 Seven couples were planned 673 01:03:55,749 --> 01:04:00,471 to establish a mathematical pattern of sevens repeated throughout the film. 674 01:04:02,422 --> 01:04:04,595 Only six appear initially. 675 01:04:07,594 --> 01:04:11,269 The problem comes from the fact that we have to shoot six... 676 01:04:11,431 --> 01:04:14,071 You have six elements. You don't bother about them moving. 677 01:04:14,100 --> 01:04:17,604 You establish the fact that they are moving towards the camera at the beginning 678 01:04:18,021 --> 01:04:23,243 and then you pick 'em up in three series, each time bigger, cutting. 679 01:04:25,445 --> 01:04:27,413 Production finally commenced. 680 01:04:28,198 --> 01:04:31,452 In his memoir of it, Schneider described the scene. 681 01:04:32,369 --> 01:04:34,588 �My introduction to filmmaking. 682 01:04:34,746 --> 01:04:41,470 �Much hoopla: reporters, hordes of onlookers... Light, actor and camera problems... 683 01:04:41,628 --> 01:04:44,882 �I didn't know or even suspect what I was doing.� 684 01:04:46,758 --> 01:04:49,637 The results were unequivocally disastrous. 685 01:04:49,803 --> 01:04:51,805 On seeing the rushes, he wrote, 686 01:04:52,764 --> 01:04:56,769 �Everything looked completely different from the way it had while we were shooting it. 687 01:04:56,935 --> 01:05:00,235 �The timing was so changed that I couldn't understand it. 688 01:05:00,397 --> 01:05:05,699 �The group scenes suffered so badly from strobe effect that they were impossible to watch. 689 01:05:05,860 --> 01:05:10,457 �None of the scenes involving the other actors was even remotely usable.� 690 01:05:12,033 --> 01:05:15,958 By the end of the first day, they had blown a sizable chunk of the shooting budget 691 01:05:16,121 --> 01:05:18,590 and hadn't completed the scene. 692 01:05:18,748 --> 01:05:23,299 Calling back all the extras and re-shooting was financially impossible. 693 01:05:24,295 --> 01:05:28,266 Given the scene's importance, the entire production was in jeopardy of collapse 694 01:05:28,425 --> 01:05:30,928 and a panicked meeting was held. 695 01:05:33,263 --> 01:05:37,393 In the end, Beckett himself suggested what no one else could envision... 696 01:05:37,976 --> 01:05:40,479 cut the entire sequence. 697 01:05:43,273 --> 01:05:48,370 Once a cornerstone of the project, the street scene footage was abandoned. 698 01:05:48,528 --> 01:05:54,126 Thought lost for decades, it became a tantalizing legend amongst Beckett scholars. 699 01:05:54,284 --> 01:06:01,338 I ultimately uncovered it in a pile of rusty film cans in Barney Rosset's kitchen cupboard on 4th Avenue. 700 01:06:03,209 --> 01:06:08,511 In the surviving fragments, a glimpse of Beckett's conception of the scene arises. 701 01:07:11,486 --> 01:07:17,744 The final version featured a completely different opening, literally conceived overnight. 702 01:07:17,909 --> 01:07:23,882 During the re-shoot, in classic Beckett fashion, they simply filmed the empty street. 703 01:07:25,667 --> 01:07:28,261 They sought to show a roaming eye, 704 01:07:28,419 --> 01:07:34,927 and this eye, unlike the first day's, looked above the earth to the sky. 705 01:07:35,093 --> 01:07:39,974 Gone is the sense of oblivious humans engaged in their own perceptions, 706 01:07:40,139 --> 01:07:43,609 save for one figure seen in the distance... 707 01:07:44,435 --> 01:07:46,563 perhaps by accident? 708 01:07:47,981 --> 01:07:51,326 A window into a story we're not told. 709 01:07:53,820 --> 01:07:56,664 It changes one's understanding of the film. 710 01:07:57,323 --> 01:07:59,917 The original scene, laden with characters, 711 01:08:00,076 --> 01:08:05,003 established that O was a different kind of being than those around him. 712 01:08:05,123 --> 01:08:07,751 The new scene would have no such context. 713 01:08:08,710 --> 01:08:15,685 I think the clearest way to make my point is something that some famous person said, 714 01:08:15,842 --> 01:08:22,145 that it's good not to get what you want, but want what you get. 715 01:08:23,808 --> 01:08:29,440 The new vision, devoid of extras, introduces O himself. 716 01:08:29,606 --> 01:08:35,409 And so we, through the eye of E, find Buster Keaton. 717 01:08:36,529 --> 01:08:38,281 Well, I was thirteen years old 718 01:08:38,448 --> 01:08:41,042 and already a movie nut, an old movie nut. 719 01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:45,205 And my folks subscribed to The New York Times, so every day it was there on the doorstep 720 01:08:45,371 --> 01:08:47,999 and one July morning I opened the paper 721 01:08:48,166 --> 01:08:54,014 and there was an article saying that Buster Keaton was making a movie in downtown Manhattan. 722 01:08:54,172 --> 01:09:00,179 And I was about to go into the city for the day for a day's outing with my best friend Louis Black. 723 01:09:00,345 --> 01:09:04,646 I said �Louis, this is a once in a lifetime opportunity. We've got to go.� 724 01:09:04,807 --> 01:09:10,530 And we got out at Canal Street, came to the surface and looked around and scanned the horizon. 725 01:09:10,688 --> 01:09:14,693 There were a lot of vacant lots, as I recall, and then, just two or three blocks away, 726 01:09:14,859 --> 01:09:18,580 we could see some lights and reflectors, signs of a film production. 727 01:09:18,738 --> 01:09:21,662 So we walked over there, there was no security. 728 01:09:21,824 --> 01:09:24,748 In fact, there were very few people, as I recall. 729 01:09:24,911 --> 01:09:27,755 And there was a car and in the back seat of the car, 730 01:09:27,914 --> 01:09:30,667 with the windows rolled down because it was summertime, 731 01:09:30,833 --> 01:09:37,307 reading the newspaper with his porkpie hat on the seat of the car next to him, was Buster Keaton. 732 01:09:37,465 --> 01:09:42,062 So I kind of leaned in the window a little bit and said �Mr Keaton?� He said �Yeah.� 733 01:09:42,220 --> 01:09:46,225 I said �Hi, my name's Leonard Maltin, I'm a big fan of yours.� Blah, blah, blah... 734 01:09:46,391 --> 01:09:51,147 So I had my moment, which is exactly what it was, a moment with Buster Keaton. 735 01:09:51,312 --> 01:09:56,193 But we were so awestruck by that experience 736 01:09:56,359 --> 01:10:00,159 that we didn't even take in the bigger picture of what was going on around us. 737 01:10:00,321 --> 01:10:04,827 So I don't remember even looking to see the camera, who was operating the camera, 738 01:10:04,992 --> 01:10:08,121 what the set looked like, who else was there that day. 739 01:10:08,287 --> 01:10:11,882 Samuel Beckett could have been standing six feet from us, we wouldn't have known it. 740 01:10:12,041 --> 01:10:16,342 We didn't care, we were just, you know, blinded by the light of Buster Keaton 741 01:10:16,504 --> 01:10:19,223 and the experience of having gotten to meet him. 742 01:10:20,049 --> 01:10:23,770 The blinding encounter is inverted in the film itself. 743 01:10:23,928 --> 01:10:30,277 When E finds Keaton, it's Keaton who freezes, and the freezing less pleasant. 744 01:10:30,435 --> 01:10:33,405 The camera replies, in movement. 745 01:10:36,899 --> 01:10:38,116 Beckett comments: 746 01:10:38,276 --> 01:10:40,370 Actually we haven 't been speaking at all about, 747 01:10:40,528 --> 01:10:44,408 not very much about this business of the angle of immunity. 748 01:10:44,574 --> 01:10:47,043 Because at the very beginning of the film, it's mentioned. 749 01:10:47,201 --> 01:10:50,125 We haven't done anything about... We haven 't spoken about that at all. 750 01:10:50,830 --> 01:10:52,673 But that's not difficult. 751 01:10:54,459 --> 01:10:56,211 Kaufman disagreed. 752 01:10:56,461 --> 01:10:58,634 This is the hardest... 753 01:10:58,796 --> 01:11:00,594 We haven't spoken about it. 754 01:11:00,757 --> 01:11:02,100 Accidentally... 755 01:11:03,801 --> 01:11:07,522 E's first perception of O, at the beginning of the street scene, 756 01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,650 is at an angle exceeding that of immunity. 757 01:11:11,058 --> 01:11:12,560 Which stops... 758 01:11:13,603 --> 01:11:15,571 O, doesn't it, it stops... 759 01:11:16,272 --> 01:11:18,274 Is it perpendicular to the... 760 01:11:18,357 --> 01:11:22,783 Well, it's instead of looking at it from a very oblique angle, lmean it's a little wider. 761 01:11:22,945 --> 01:11:28,122 So that E... E's first move in the film is to draw back, to close the angle. 762 01:11:29,744 --> 01:11:36,093 In the Grove edition of Beckett's 1963 manuscript, we see this illustrated. 763 01:11:36,250 --> 01:11:41,848 The angle above which O feels the pain of E's gaze is 45 degrees, 764 01:11:42,006 --> 01:11:44,680 which is close to that of peripheral vision. 765 01:11:45,551 --> 01:11:46,598 But as Beckett notes... 766 01:11:47,011 --> 01:11:48,854 It was a fairly arbitrary one... 767 01:11:51,682 --> 01:11:58,281 Whatever the angle, when O senses E, he knows he's prey and the chase is on. 768 01:12:17,834 --> 01:12:21,680 O immediately encounters a couple near the wall. 769 01:12:21,838 --> 01:12:24,682 The man is played by actor James Karen. 770 01:12:24,841 --> 01:12:30,063 A close friend of Keaton's, Karen was the one who put Schneider in touch with him. 771 01:12:30,221 --> 01:12:37,196 Here the production's fault lines, like those between E and O, begin to surface. 772 01:12:37,353 --> 01:12:41,984 Beckett had never made a movie and nor had Alan Schneider ever directed a movie 773 01:12:42,149 --> 01:12:44,151 and there they were 774 01:12:44,318 --> 01:12:49,700 with a master of moviemaking whom they never took into their confidence. 775 01:12:50,491 --> 01:12:54,792 If Keaton knew his way around a film shoot, so too did Kaufman. 776 01:12:56,163 --> 01:12:59,167 And Karen himself was the ultimate professional 777 01:12:59,333 --> 01:13:06,558 with a career dating back to Elia Kazan's classic 1948 stage production of A Streetcar Named Desire 778 01:13:06,716 --> 01:13:08,844 and even earlier. 779 01:13:09,010 --> 01:13:11,479 Not only was he close friends with Keaton, 780 01:13:11,637 --> 01:13:18,065 he'd also worked with Kaufman on Willard Van Dyke's 1947 educational film Journey into Medicine. 781 01:13:18,728 --> 01:13:20,981 The one with the glasses is typical. 782 01:13:21,147 --> 01:13:27,154 Name? Michael Kenneth Marshall, Bachelor of Science and Doctor of Medicine. 783 01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:29,994 He's twenty-nine and still a student. 784 01:13:31,115 --> 01:13:33,584 Karen would go on to appear in hundreds of films 785 01:13:33,743 --> 01:13:36,041 including The China Syndrome 786 01:13:36,162 --> 01:13:38,460 and Return of the Living Dead. 787 01:13:40,666 --> 01:13:43,715 In Film, his companion is his wife, 788 01:13:43,878 --> 01:13:46,802 folk singer Susan Reed. 789 01:13:48,299 --> 01:13:53,931 New York was blistering hot at the time and Keaton was asked to do take after take. 790 01:13:54,096 --> 01:13:56,724 You know, they'd been tearing everything down. 791 01:13:56,891 --> 01:14:00,236 All those bricks were from buildings. They weren't just put there. 792 01:14:00,394 --> 01:14:03,489 And there was wood and there were nails. 793 01:14:04,398 --> 01:14:08,653 French director Alain Resnais was there with actress Delphine Seyrig 794 01:14:08,819 --> 01:14:10,992 and captured this photo. 795 01:14:13,074 --> 01:14:16,248 Barney invited Allen Ginsberg and Peter Orlovsky 796 01:14:16,410 --> 01:14:21,041 and Ginsberg described the scene in his poem �Today�, which tells us 797 01:14:22,083 --> 01:14:24,632 �Buster Keaton is under the Brooklyn Bridge 798 01:14:24,794 --> 01:14:29,766 �by a vast red-brick wall still dead pan alive in red suspenders... 799 01:14:30,257 --> 01:14:36,390 a hairy bum asked Mr Keaton for money drink! Oh Buster! No answer!� 800 01:14:38,557 --> 01:14:40,730 Bums weren't his only problem. 801 01:14:41,894 --> 01:14:44,522 The physical tension mirrored the personal. 802 01:14:46,524 --> 01:14:49,573 God, it was a terrible, terrible couple of days down there. 803 01:14:49,735 --> 01:14:52,488 Look at Buster, how he's dressed. 804 01:14:52,655 --> 01:14:55,875 And he would never complain. Buster would never complain. 805 01:14:56,033 --> 01:14:59,333 So what was the weather in this? It would have been a hundred degrees? 806 01:14:59,495 --> 01:15:03,295 Over a hundred degrees in the shade and there was no shade. 807 01:15:03,457 --> 01:15:06,176 I had to fight them to get him a chair. 808 01:15:11,590 --> 01:15:13,558 I look at it and get angry. 809 01:15:14,468 --> 01:15:17,688 Yet discomfort was inherent to the process. 810 01:15:17,847 --> 01:15:22,728 Billie Whitelaw suffered countless ailments as a result of her work with Beckett. 811 01:15:22,893 --> 01:15:24,895 She only half-jokingly asked him, 812 01:15:25,062 --> 01:15:29,568 �ls there anything you ever write for an actor that isn't physically painful?� 813 01:15:31,152 --> 01:15:36,158 Like Whitelaw, Keaton was more than prepared to undergo pain for his art. 814 01:15:36,323 --> 01:15:39,247 If anything, he actively sought it. 815 01:15:44,081 --> 01:15:50,339 His career began as a toddler, performing with his family as The Three Keatons. 816 01:15:50,504 --> 01:15:55,385 The act centered on Keaton's father in essence abusing Buster. 817 01:15:55,551 --> 01:16:02,105 So in the sense that physical abuse was in his bones, he was a perfect Beckettian actor. 818 01:16:03,225 --> 01:16:06,650 Here, Kevin Brownlow quotes Beckett. 819 01:16:06,812 --> 01:16:08,940 �While I was staggering in the humidity, 820 01:16:09,106 --> 01:16:12,406 �Keaton was galloping up and down and doing whatever we asked of him. 821 01:16:12,568 --> 01:16:16,618 �He had great endurance. He was very tough and yes, reliable." 822 01:16:17,323 --> 01:16:21,578 In a different way, Alan Schneider was the perfect Beckettian director 823 01:16:21,744 --> 01:16:25,590 in that he understood his role was to work as a cipher. 824 01:16:26,791 --> 01:16:31,672 I spoke with photographer Steve Schapiro, who documented the shoot. 825 01:16:31,837 --> 01:16:38,561 Beckett really didn't talk very much and he certainly was not directing the crew per se. 826 01:16:38,719 --> 01:16:41,598 I think he was directing the sequence of things 827 01:16:41,764 --> 01:16:46,565 and he directed Alan Schneider, the director, who was directing the film. 828 01:16:47,895 --> 01:16:52,071 I think Alan was best when he let his instincts work. 829 01:16:52,233 --> 01:16:54,611 You know, you learn as you go along. 830 01:16:54,777 --> 01:16:58,407 When his instincts worked, he usually did good work. 831 01:16:59,824 --> 01:17:04,375 It's at the meeting with Karen and Reed that we first see O's vision, 832 01:17:04,537 --> 01:17:08,713 Beckett's blurring, grown from Kaufman's tests. 833 01:17:10,751 --> 01:17:14,756 It's also here that Reed delivers the film's only spoken line... 834 01:17:14,922 --> 01:17:15,969 Sssh! 835 01:17:16,882 --> 01:17:21,262 It's a joke, but one that tells us sound is possible... 836 01:17:21,971 --> 01:17:23,564 if absent. 837 01:17:25,724 --> 01:17:28,193 As far back as 1936, 838 01:17:28,352 --> 01:17:35,076 Beckett wrote that �the silent film had barely emerged from its rudiments when it was swamped.� 839 01:17:36,026 --> 01:17:38,779 These sentiments trace directly to Arnheim, 840 01:17:38,946 --> 01:17:43,622 one of the first scholarly mourners for the lost art of silent cinema. 841 01:17:45,619 --> 01:17:47,667 By the time of Film's production, 842 01:17:47,830 --> 01:17:52,461 soundlessness became, for Beckett, a metaphysical condition. 843 01:17:52,626 --> 01:17:56,381 In a Herald Tribune interview on July 19th, 1964, 844 01:17:56,547 --> 01:17:58,549 the day before shooting began, 845 01:17:58,716 --> 01:18:00,844 Beckett told John Gruen that... 846 01:18:01,010 --> 01:18:04,765 �Writing becomes not easier but more difficult for me. 847 01:18:04,930 --> 01:18:10,437 �Every word is like an unnecessary stain on silence and nothingness.� 848 01:18:12,104 --> 01:18:16,826 Schneider, characteristically, joked around with it during the camera tests... 849 01:18:27,745 --> 01:18:33,627 while Jeannette Seaver describes the actual production's atmosphere as having immense focus. 850 01:18:33,792 --> 01:18:35,920 And great silence. 851 01:18:37,129 --> 01:18:39,097 On the set there was silence? 852 01:18:40,382 --> 01:18:42,976 Because you'd think that even though it's a silent movie... 853 01:18:44,094 --> 01:18:46,643 that there would be noise on the set. 854 01:18:47,306 --> 01:18:52,107 I don't remember that. The silence was enveloping. 855 01:18:53,812 --> 01:18:57,942 The call for silence echoes the flight from the eye. 856 01:19:01,362 --> 01:19:05,913 A moment later, Reed and Karen turn their eyes to E. 857 01:19:07,451 --> 01:19:13,584 Unlike Chaplin's tramp in Kid Auto Races, their reaction is pure Beckett. 858 01:19:17,461 --> 01:19:19,384 Having done away with them, 859 01:19:19,546 --> 01:19:26,430 E returns to the pursuit of O, who, having fled the encounter, enters a building. 860 01:19:39,775 --> 01:19:42,619 Once inside, he encounters a flower lady. 861 01:19:43,779 --> 01:19:46,749 Again, Schneider's casting was excellent. 862 01:19:46,907 --> 01:19:49,956 She simply comes down very slowly. She's old and frail... 863 01:19:50,119 --> 01:19:54,169 I've got a wonderful old gal who's going to take an hour to get down those stairs. 864 01:19:54,331 --> 01:19:56,504 No, I mean, I think that's the answer. 865 01:19:56,667 --> 01:20:00,297 Shes a gal who's going to collapse if she took another step. 866 01:20:00,462 --> 01:20:03,261 She's going to look as though she'd fall apart. 867 01:20:04,925 --> 01:20:10,603 The old lady was played by Nell Harrison, who later appeared in Mel Brooks' The Producers. 868 01:20:11,974 --> 01:20:16,400 Harrison's reaction to E is the same as Karen's and Reed's. 869 01:20:17,521 --> 01:20:18,898 Beckett said... 870 01:20:19,064 --> 01:20:27,064 We have an example of O's vision in the street scene, and in the hallway scene, 871 01:20:27,489 --> 01:20:33,417 of what Buster Keaton's face is... the expression he's going to have at the very end of the film. 872 01:20:33,537 --> 01:20:36,086 This has also been prepared in the first two sections 873 01:20:36,540 --> 01:20:41,842 so that when we get it at the end of the film, when what we call the investment begins, 874 01:20:42,004 --> 01:20:44,598 it makes a shape. 875 01:20:46,967 --> 01:20:52,690 While E is distracted, O skirts around the collapsed body and up the stairs. 876 01:21:05,736 --> 01:21:07,454 He opens a door. 877 01:21:08,197 --> 01:21:10,245 Where does it lead? 878 01:21:10,657 --> 01:21:14,002 You see, the thing that threw us, Sam... not Boris, me... 879 01:21:14,161 --> 01:21:16,880 is the business about, was it his mothers room? 880 01:21:17,039 --> 01:21:21,260 Everybody who's ever read the script, everybody without exception, thinks it's his room. 881 01:21:21,418 --> 01:21:25,264 One might suppose that his mother had gone to hospital. 882 01:21:26,131 --> 01:21:29,351 The exposition is never offered in the movie. 883 01:21:29,510 --> 01:21:32,389 But one most definitely encounters a world. 884 01:21:32,554 --> 01:21:36,354 It can't be his room because he wouldn't have a room of this kind. 885 01:21:36,517 --> 01:21:39,145 He wouldn't have a room full of eyes. 886 01:21:41,522 --> 01:21:44,025 The room full of eyes was a set 887 01:21:44,191 --> 01:21:47,240 and it's here that the core of the movie was made. 888 01:21:47,403 --> 01:21:50,452 The New Yorker's Jane Kramer visited. 889 01:21:50,614 --> 01:21:52,662 �Rosset steered us across the studio, 890 01:21:52,866 --> 01:21:57,121 �nimbly sidestepping coils of rope and piles of boxes on the floor, 891 01:21:57,287 --> 01:22:00,712 �and left us at the door of a small, exceedingly Beckettian room. 892 01:22:00,874 --> 01:22:04,799 �It contained a large camera on wheels, forty spotlights, 893 01:22:04,962 --> 01:22:08,967 �twelve technicians, one script girl, two magazine photographers, 894 01:22:09,133 --> 01:22:13,730 �Mr Schneider, Mr Kaufman, Mr Keaton... and Mr Beckett, 895 01:22:13,887 --> 01:22:18,643 �who was sitting in a corner on a Coca-Cola crate, peering intently at the scene...� 896 01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:24,407 The set was ingeniously designed by Burr Smidt, and is itself archetype, 897 01:22:24,565 --> 01:22:29,071 Beckett's �familiar chamber", which Billie Whitelaw described as 898 01:22:29,236 --> 01:22:32,740 �a bleak room with a little camp-bed, a 'pallet' as he called it, 899 01:22:32,906 --> 01:22:37,377 �with one window, all composed in shades of gray.� 900 01:22:38,579 --> 01:22:43,836 We see it reappear in numerous Beckett works including Eh Joe 901 01:22:44,001 --> 01:22:46,095 and Ghost Trio. 902 01:22:47,504 --> 01:22:49,472 Beckett described it like this: 903 01:22:50,090 --> 01:22:52,639 A cell, a cell. 904 01:22:52,759 --> 01:22:56,889 I think principle of the room is... to seek the minimum. 905 01:22:58,182 --> 01:23:02,904 There is nothing in this place, this room, 906 01:23:04,021 --> 01:23:07,946 that isn't prepared to trap... to trap him. 907 01:23:11,653 --> 01:23:17,285 Upon seeing Smidt's brilliant realization of the concept, Beckett was delighted. 908 01:23:17,451 --> 01:23:18,794 He loved the sets. 909 01:23:18,952 --> 01:23:21,705 The sets were nothing. They looked like a jail. 910 01:23:21,872 --> 01:23:23,624 It was so depressing. 911 01:23:23,790 --> 01:23:26,134 But he was very happy about it. 912 01:23:27,503 --> 01:23:29,722 For many, it would be maddening. 913 01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:34,226 Which was the experience of not just O, but Keaton himself, 914 01:23:34,384 --> 01:23:38,764 who struggled with both the trap of the room and the trap of the concept. 915 01:23:40,766 --> 01:23:44,987 I see Buster not at his full freedom. 916 01:23:45,145 --> 01:23:48,524 I see Buster tethered. 917 01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:54,655 The angle of immunity required his back be kept to the camera. 918 01:23:55,531 --> 01:23:58,284 �Of course he tried to suggest gags of his own." 919 01:23:58,450 --> 01:23:59,997 �Did you use any of them?� 920 01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:05,166 �No,� he laughed. �We were depriving him of his trump card, his face." 921 01:24:06,166 --> 01:24:10,262 If his face appeared, it wound up on the cutting room floor. 922 01:24:22,182 --> 01:24:25,686 Amidst the outtakes, some of Keaton's best moments arise. 923 01:25:06,768 --> 01:25:10,864 As with all things Beckett, the gag was more than it seemed. 924 01:25:11,023 --> 01:25:15,745 Throughout the film runs a sub-theme on the nature of animal consciousness. 925 01:25:15,902 --> 01:25:18,246 In the earlier scene with James Karen, 926 01:25:18,405 --> 01:25:23,252 the original conception called for Susan Reed's character to be holding a monkey. 927 01:25:23,410 --> 01:25:28,382 As the couple gasps in horror under E's gaze, the script describes 928 01:25:28,540 --> 01:25:33,011 �Indifference of monkey, looking up into the face of its mistress.� 929 01:25:34,421 --> 01:25:37,470 Animals are unfazed by E's eye. 930 01:25:38,258 --> 01:25:41,933 This contrasts with O's response to the eyes of a parrot 931 01:25:42,721 --> 01:25:44,223 and fish. 932 01:25:48,060 --> 01:25:50,904 Here we see Beckett in a stand-off with the parrot 933 01:25:52,105 --> 01:25:53,732 and fish. 934 01:25:58,236 --> 01:26:04,209 The theme of animal indifference to percipi was echoed in my interview with Leonard Maitin. 935 01:26:04,993 --> 01:26:07,667 Jimmy's been acting his whole life 936 01:26:07,829 --> 01:26:13,882 and as long as he's been acting he's been making friends, and... 937 01:26:23,387 --> 01:26:26,186 No, don't let them outside, no! 938 01:26:28,558 --> 01:26:32,313 Scenes with eye-bearing inanimate objects were partially improvised 939 01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:36,279 and shot without Kaufman as B-roll material weeks later. 940 01:26:36,441 --> 01:26:40,366 Rear-lit, some shots don't match the A-roll. 941 01:26:41,530 --> 01:26:46,081 There's an irony there, in that Keaton was dismissed for suggesting gags. 942 01:26:46,243 --> 01:26:49,122 The B-roll material is in essence that. 943 01:26:50,539 --> 01:26:55,841 Cumulatively, the scenes depict a succession of eyes O eliminates 944 01:26:56,002 --> 01:26:59,597 in search of the Void of Unconsciousness. 945 01:27:00,674 --> 01:27:06,056 It was the task Beckett pursued since his vision in 1945, after the war. 946 01:27:09,391 --> 01:27:14,739 What's seen in the world mirrors the spirit and needs to be shed. 947 01:27:16,732 --> 01:27:18,951 When she was performing Not I, 948 01:27:19,109 --> 01:27:25,162 Billie Whitelaw described going through her own internal monologue, a personal mantra. 949 01:27:25,323 --> 01:27:32,832 �L said to myself, 'Right, let your skin fall off, let your flesh fall off, 950 01:27:32,998 --> 01:27:40,998 �'let the muscles fall off, let the bones fall off, let everything fall off.� 951 01:27:41,798 --> 01:27:46,725 She wrote, �I wanted to be left with nothing but my centre, my core. 952 01:27:46,887 --> 01:27:49,936 �And I thought, now keep out of the way, Whitelaw. 953 01:27:50,098 --> 01:27:52,192 �Work with what's left.� 954 01:27:53,685 --> 01:27:55,232 She continued, 955 01:27:55,395 --> 01:27:58,365 �At the end when I was unstrapped from my chair, 956 01:27:58,523 --> 01:28:03,575 �my body still felt charged with the electricity that had built up through the performance. 957 01:28:03,737 --> 01:28:07,116 �L felt if anyone touched me they would get an electric shock. 958 01:28:08,450 --> 01:28:12,330 �The ends of my fingers still tingled as I reached my dressing room.� 959 01:28:20,086 --> 01:28:23,465 Her core was the biology of being, 960 01:28:23,632 --> 01:28:27,136 a holiness beyond outward notions of God. 961 01:28:30,764 --> 01:28:37,773 In Film, O, our naive human, seeks to free himself from God as more commonly understood. 962 01:28:40,148 --> 01:28:43,277 Here we see Kaufman's camera tests. 963 01:28:47,656 --> 01:28:50,455 The image is Abu, a Sumerian god, 964 01:28:50,617 --> 01:28:55,088 found by Beckett's friend Avigdor Arikha in a museum in Baghdad. 965 01:28:56,581 --> 01:29:01,132 O pulls the image from the wall and tears it to pieces. 966 01:29:32,617 --> 01:29:38,499 Lets momentarily leave O with the shards of God trampled underfoot. 967 01:29:41,501 --> 01:29:47,474 We've talked about the stellar cast and crew assembled, but one member has yet to be discussed. 968 01:29:48,508 --> 01:29:51,557 As editor, Rosset hired Sidney Meyers, 969 01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:55,475 best known for the classic independent film The Quiet One, 970 01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:57,438 which he also directed. 971 01:29:58,184 --> 01:30:04,817 Behind the feelings rise memories which still hold him in terrible hunger and hatred. 972 01:30:05,984 --> 01:30:09,409 Here, a troubled youth remembers his past. 973 01:30:11,615 --> 01:30:14,915 These are the memories Donald lives in day and night. 974 01:30:23,001 --> 01:30:27,051 For the majority of his career, Meyers worked as an editor. 975 01:30:27,255 --> 01:30:32,261 One film on which he worked was The Savage Eye, in 1959. 976 01:30:32,427 --> 01:30:37,854 The title suggests a quite different view of the camera than Vertov's Kino-Eye. 977 01:30:39,893 --> 01:30:44,023 The film depicts a brutality latent in the photographic stare 978 01:30:44,189 --> 01:30:49,821 and shows that many kino-eyes are possible, each with its own subjective view. 979 01:30:52,530 --> 01:30:57,787 Also working on The Savage Eye was Haskell Wexler, who well understood the concept. 980 01:30:57,953 --> 01:31:03,551 You're coming in here, you got that damned lens, so you say �Jesus, my nose isn't that big!" 981 01:31:03,708 --> 01:31:05,961 when you chose that goddamn lens! 982 01:31:07,379 --> 01:31:13,557 The eye of Film is Beckett's eye: not savage, but piercing nonetheless. 983 01:31:13,718 --> 01:31:19,316 Its gaze encompasses more than sight, as witnessed after the shredding of God. 984 01:31:22,102 --> 01:31:28,826 Here we find Beckett the conceptual editor, shredding a life with cuts in time. 985 01:31:32,612 --> 01:31:35,365 These are the photos O reviews. 986 01:31:41,871 --> 01:31:45,000 They stage the stages of a life. 987 01:31:52,549 --> 01:31:56,474 Ironically, the young O is not an archival image of Keaton 988 01:31:56,636 --> 01:32:00,812 but James Karen, the actor O encounters on the street. 989 01:32:20,410 --> 01:32:22,538 You know what it was? 990 01:32:22,704 --> 01:32:24,752 A sack of sugar! 991 01:32:24,914 --> 01:32:28,794 There was no child there. I held a sack of something, flour or sugar. 992 01:32:30,712 --> 01:32:33,386 I don't even remember where we shot it. 993 01:32:33,548 --> 01:32:37,473 It was in a studio. This was superimposed too. 994 01:32:38,219 --> 01:32:39,311 The background? 995 01:32:39,471 --> 01:32:43,692 Yeah, the whole thing was a fake, it was just me standing with this sack of something 996 01:32:43,850 --> 01:32:47,980 in front of a white paper background. 997 01:32:48,104 --> 01:32:50,277 I got into the uniform, that's all I know. 998 01:32:51,691 --> 01:32:54,786 The source image of the sugar sack is lost, 999 01:32:54,944 --> 01:32:59,871 but looking closely at the picture, one can see the cut-out edges of the child. 1000 01:33:01,534 --> 01:33:06,256 Here we see another doctored photo and its source. 1001 01:33:07,499 --> 01:33:12,380 The photos, themselves collaged, become markers of memory... 1002 01:33:13,922 --> 01:33:17,051 another consciousness to be abolished. 1003 01:33:18,718 --> 01:33:22,894 O shreds his old images, like the image of God. 1004 01:33:26,101 --> 01:33:29,355 He destroys his consciousness of the past. 1005 01:33:34,776 --> 01:33:41,000 Having eliminated all sensory perception, God and memory, whats left? 1006 01:33:43,451 --> 01:33:47,331 We'll pause here, as O falls asleep. 1007 01:33:59,551 --> 01:34:03,772 Berkeley had defined existence in being perceived. 1008 01:34:03,930 --> 01:34:11,930 However, he later expanded his concept to include the will, or action: to actively perceive. 1009 01:34:12,397 --> 01:34:17,528 One's will becomes part of the act of perception, of being. 1010 01:34:19,070 --> 01:34:23,576 While O sleeps, these forces move without filter. 1011 01:34:23,741 --> 01:34:28,372 The waking �I� of self rests, not acting... 1012 01:34:29,372 --> 01:34:31,045 not I. 1013 01:34:36,379 --> 01:34:40,850 Near the very end of Principles of Human Knowledge, Berkeley asks, 1014 01:34:41,009 --> 01:34:44,684 �What truth is there which glares so strongly on the mind 1015 01:34:44,846 --> 01:34:51,695 �that, by an aversion of thought, a willful shutting of the eyes, we may not escape seeing it?� 1016 01:34:54,272 --> 01:35:00,780 The truth which glares so strongly is, for Beckett, the need to gaze itself... 1017 01:35:02,238 --> 01:35:06,209 the very need that sunders Things into Objects. 1018 01:35:10,330 --> 01:35:17,930 This sundering, of perception and being, is enmeshed in the very fabric of Film. 1019 01:35:19,422 --> 01:35:24,474 Beckett forefronts a formal concern in his name for the movie. 1020 01:35:35,730 --> 01:35:42,079 Film at that time had a material basis, in photochemistry, silver, and light. 1021 01:35:44,614 --> 01:35:49,791 None of these bear on the movie, which begins and ends with the lens. 1022 01:35:53,206 --> 01:35:58,133 Film exists in us when we see it, not its material. 1023 01:36:01,589 --> 01:36:04,217 Beckett forecasts the present moment 1024 01:36:04,384 --> 01:36:10,312 when a non-material digital cinema replaces the physical one it was born by. 1025 01:36:11,683 --> 01:36:15,529 This essay itself is not film, but digital. 1026 01:36:17,313 --> 01:36:20,908 To call it a film is to invert language. 1027 01:36:22,193 --> 01:36:24,946 Like sunrise and sunset, 1028 01:36:25,113 --> 01:36:29,710 which backwardly suggest the sun revolves around the earth. 1029 01:36:31,202 --> 01:36:36,003 It transforms the physical memory of being, of esse. 1030 01:36:37,834 --> 01:36:43,682 Photochemical film is a physical strip, a material mask of light. 1031 01:36:45,174 --> 01:36:48,895 The screen is a mirror filled with shadows. 1032 01:36:50,513 --> 01:36:55,394 With video, the monitor is no mirror, but an emanator. 1033 01:36:56,269 --> 01:36:59,489 No reflections, no shadow. 1034 01:37:01,941 --> 01:37:05,286 We stand at the sunset of film. 1035 01:37:08,197 --> 01:37:14,125 As O sleeps, the unconscious acts, becoming unfiltered will. 1036 01:37:18,249 --> 01:37:23,130 As an audience, we sit in reverie, in dream, 1037 01:37:23,296 --> 01:37:30,475 and become aware, ever so fleetingly, of our own being and self. 1038 01:38:24,399 --> 01:38:29,656 Film premiered at the Venice Film Festival in September of 1965. 1039 01:38:29,821 --> 01:38:30,993 Keaton attended. 1040 01:38:31,155 --> 01:38:34,580 His reception served as coda to a career. 1041 01:38:34,742 --> 01:38:42,742 Rex Reed wrote, �Fellini, Godard, Antonioni, Visconti and several hundred bikini-clad starlets were there. 1042 01:38:44,127 --> 01:38:51,056 �But just before the festival ended, a silent fellow from the silent era stole the limelight. 1043 01:38:51,217 --> 01:38:55,142 �Keaton was there and it was understood in every language. 1044 01:38:55,304 --> 01:38:56,977 �He had come to show Film 1045 01:38:57,140 --> 01:39:01,611 �and when the projector stopped, they stood and cheered for five minutes. 1046 01:39:01,769 --> 01:39:06,525 �'This is the first time I've been invited to a film festival,' he said, fighting back tears, 1047 01:39:06,691 --> 01:39:09,160 �'but I hope it won't be the last.�' 1048 01:39:09,318 --> 01:39:12,117 When asked about the film, Keaton said 1049 01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:14,533 �Heck, I'd be the last one in the world to comment 1050 01:39:14,699 --> 01:39:17,828 �because I didn't know what those guys were doing half the time. 1051 01:39:17,994 --> 01:39:20,998 �As for Samuel Beckett, I took one look at his script 1052 01:39:21,164 --> 01:39:25,340 �and asked him if he ate Welsh rarebit before he went to bed at night.� 1053 01:39:27,378 --> 01:39:33,727 In a December 1964 interview, Kevin Browniow asked Keaton for his thoughts on Film. 1054 01:39:34,719 --> 01:39:38,815 His comments presaged his words a year later in Venice. 1055 01:39:39,515 --> 01:39:45,272 A wild daydream he had. I don't think it meant a damn thing. 1056 01:39:46,481 --> 01:39:51,783 Keaton also discussed it on a Canadian television program called Flashback. 1057 01:39:51,944 --> 01:39:55,118 Well, it's one of those art things and... 1058 01:39:57,283 --> 01:40:01,584 I was confused when we shot it and I'm still confused. 1059 01:40:04,081 --> 01:40:07,210 I think the only thing I remember was Buster saying 1060 01:40:07,335 --> 01:40:10,179 �What the hell did you get me into with those guys?" 1061 01:40:12,173 --> 01:40:17,304 if Keaton was the most self-reflexive comedian, he was not introspective. 1062 01:40:17,470 --> 01:40:22,442 Yet despite his profession of ignorance, and a life before the camera, 1063 01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:25,194 he's quoted by Reed as saying 1064 01:40:25,353 --> 01:40:29,608 �Schneiderjust told me to keep my back to the camera and be natural. 1065 01:40:29,774 --> 01:40:33,995 �Try acting natural with a camera crew aiming at your back.� 1066 01:40:37,657 --> 01:40:42,379 Keaton was in fact shy by nature and shell-shocked by the paparazzi. 1067 01:40:43,371 --> 01:40:49,879 Beneath his veneer of incomprehension is a body that physically knows the pain of E's gaze. 1068 01:40:54,799 --> 01:40:58,554 After Venice, Film played the New York Film Festival. 1069 01:40:58,719 --> 01:41:03,725 Again the focus was Keaton, and again, confusion reigned. 1070 01:41:03,891 --> 01:41:07,270 Leonard Maltin, by then 14, attended the screening. 1071 01:41:08,104 --> 01:41:10,698 I remember that I was puzzled by the movie. 1072 01:41:11,983 --> 01:41:13,985 And I think a lot of the audience was too. 1073 01:41:14,151 --> 01:41:17,826 An awful lot of people, not just me, didn't quite know what to make of it. 1074 01:41:18,573 --> 01:41:21,122 Brownlow's view is warmly ironic. 1075 01:41:21,284 --> 01:41:23,833 It doesn't work for me. 1076 01:41:25,371 --> 01:41:29,626 It's... It's not cinematic enough. 1077 01:41:29,792 --> 01:41:37,792 It's the sort of thing that when you've done your experiment with the audience, and you tell them, they all go �Oh!� 1078 01:41:41,012 --> 01:41:43,390 What does it say? 1079 01:41:44,515 --> 01:41:50,568 A man who is afraid for anyone to look into his soul? 1080 01:41:50,730 --> 01:41:52,607 Is that what it's about? 1081 01:41:55,985 --> 01:42:01,708 Confusion arose from a divide between concept and realization. 1082 01:42:01,866 --> 01:42:06,963 The aphysical nature of E apparently shifts throughout the film. 1083 01:42:08,331 --> 01:42:11,050 Is E a free-floating presence? 1084 01:42:16,547 --> 01:42:19,551 The physical camera its body double? 1085 01:42:24,388 --> 01:42:27,483 Beckett himself was perhaps the best arbiter. 1086 01:42:28,184 --> 01:42:29,811 He wrote to Schneider: 1087 01:42:31,145 --> 01:42:36,902 �Having been troubled by a failure to communicate by purely visual means the basic intention, 1088 01:42:37,068 --> 01:42:39,571 �I now begin to feel that this is unimportant 1089 01:42:39,737 --> 01:42:44,743 �and that the images obtained gain in force what they lose as ideograms 1090 01:42:44,909 --> 01:42:51,588 �and that the whole idea behind the film has been chiefly of value on the formal and structural level.� 1091 01:42:54,418 --> 01:42:58,548 Film's failings become success in something else. 1092 01:42:59,757 --> 01:43:04,388 The force Beckett describes lies in Kaufman's cinematography 1093 01:43:04,553 --> 01:43:08,353 which brings a palpable weight to Becketfs concept. 1094 01:43:08,516 --> 01:43:14,489 No small feat, for characteristically Beckett's concept upturns the cart. 1095 01:43:15,940 --> 01:43:21,162 Most radically, he'd done this in Godot, where the title character never arrives. 1096 01:43:22,154 --> 01:43:26,500 There, Beckett inverted the entire notion of dramatic resolution. 1097 01:43:27,952 --> 01:43:34,756 In Balzac's Mercadet, described previously, Godeau in fact arrives, offstage. 1098 01:43:36,669 --> 01:43:44,520 Nearly 100 years later, in 1949, Mercadet was set to film as The Lovable Cheat. 1099 01:43:47,012 --> 01:43:51,313 Among its cast was none other than Buster Keaton. 1100 01:43:54,186 --> 01:43:57,907 Here are excerpts of the film's climactic scene. 1101 01:43:58,065 --> 01:44:02,445 Gentlemen, I give you my word I do not expect Godeau today. 1102 01:44:02,611 --> 01:44:04,579 Well, then, it'll be tomorrow! 1103 01:44:04,739 --> 01:44:05,911 Tomorrow! 1104 01:44:07,658 --> 01:44:09,285 Another one of your tricks! 1105 01:44:09,452 --> 01:44:10,954 I wouldn't be surprised a bit! 1106 01:44:11,120 --> 01:44:12,167 Swindler! 1107 01:44:12,329 --> 01:44:13,751 He's lying again. 1108 01:44:19,336 --> 01:44:22,135 Mr Mercadet, Mr Godeau is back. 1109 01:44:35,478 --> 01:44:37,196 Godeau is really here! 1110 01:44:37,354 --> 01:44:39,652 Oh! We are going to be partners again. 1111 01:44:39,815 --> 01:44:43,160 Everything is going to be all right again! Happiness, prosperity... 1112 01:44:44,987 --> 01:44:48,992 Beckett's inversion elevates farce to archetype. 1113 01:44:49,992 --> 01:44:54,964 In Film's climactic moment, we're finally allowed to see O's face. 1114 01:44:55,790 --> 01:45:01,923 As he sleeps, E pans around the room to better view his prey from the front. 1115 01:45:04,632 --> 01:45:07,135 The chase nears its conclusion. 1116 01:46:43,814 --> 01:46:47,739 The camera, embodying E, settles against the wall 1117 01:46:47,902 --> 01:46:51,748 in the very position where the image of God once hung. 1118 01:47:17,306 --> 01:47:20,435 Under E's gaze, O awakes. 1119 01:47:22,186 --> 01:47:25,190 And looks to see what he's most feared. 1120 01:47:30,069 --> 01:47:34,950 E is of course O's double image, his doppelg�nger. 1121 01:47:36,200 --> 01:47:40,671 In some traditions, encountering one's double is an omen of death, 1122 01:47:40,829 --> 01:47:42,923 in others, of prophecy. 1123 01:47:44,500 --> 01:47:46,252 In Beckett's early notebooks, 1124 01:47:46,418 --> 01:47:50,514 he considered accompanying Film with Schuberfs �Der Doppelg�nger�. 1125 01:47:51,298 --> 01:47:59,298 The flute player in the BFI remake of Film, seen earlier, performs precisely this composition as E encounters O. 1126 01:48:32,881 --> 01:48:39,184 For Beckett, the self is the path to both enlightenment and death. 1127 01:48:41,932 --> 01:48:44,936 But the doppelg�ngefs overtones resonate further. 1128 01:48:46,645 --> 01:48:49,615 It was also a fascination of Keaton's. 1129 01:48:58,282 --> 01:49:04,710 Keaton's early gags, as archetypes themselves, reflect the very themes Beckett explored. 1130 01:49:06,790 --> 01:49:13,765 In Film, when O encounters E, Beckett describes the moment as �investment proper.� 1131 01:49:16,925 --> 01:49:19,348 It's the moment of self-recognition. 1132 01:49:22,806 --> 01:49:28,563 For his famous close-up of the moment, Keaton evoked this image from Playhouse. 1133 01:49:41,241 --> 01:49:46,463 According to a 1964 letter to Schneider, Beckett was unsatisfied. 1134 01:49:48,207 --> 01:49:52,178 But Kevin Brownlow transcribed his views two decades later. 1135 01:49:52,878 --> 01:49:57,679 �When you saw that face at the end, ah!" He smiled. �At last!� 1136 01:49:58,926 --> 01:50:01,645 Brownlow also observed a touching irony. 1137 01:50:01,804 --> 01:50:07,527 He began to talk about Keaton exactly in the terms of the Evening Standard article about him! 1138 01:50:07,684 --> 01:50:13,612 He said �Oh, he was very monosyllabic. He didn't talk very much at all. 1139 01:50:13,774 --> 01:50:17,199 �He didn't have anything to say." And it was very funny. 1140 01:50:18,612 --> 01:50:22,037 Keaton was in many ways Beckett's doppelg�inger. 1141 01:50:22,199 --> 01:50:28,252 A dourness underlay Keaton's humor as much as humor underlay Beckett's dourness. 1142 01:50:29,456 --> 01:50:33,927 I once said to him... I pretended that I didn't know that he drank. 1143 01:50:35,504 --> 01:50:38,303 And he said something about, �Well, I was drinking then." 1144 01:50:38,465 --> 01:50:40,217 And I said �You drank?" 1145 01:50:40,384 --> 01:50:42,057 And he looked at me. 1146 01:50:42,219 --> 01:50:46,565 He wasn't sure whether I was lying or putting him on, or what. 1147 01:50:46,723 --> 01:50:50,353 And he said �I drank an ocean of whisky." 1148 01:50:51,311 --> 01:50:52,904 And I said �Oh, I didn't know." 1149 01:50:53,063 --> 01:50:55,157 He said �Oh, you didn't, huh?" 1150 01:50:55,983 --> 01:51:02,241 There's a picture of Buster in a Keeley Cure, 1151 01:51:02,406 --> 01:51:08,038 which was a place they sent alcoholics and they fed them drinks. 1152 01:51:08,203 --> 01:51:11,332 �What do you want? How much do you... Have another drink. Have another..." 1153 01:51:11,498 --> 01:51:15,924 The drinks had a potion in them that made you throw up. 1154 01:51:16,086 --> 01:51:19,056 And Buster was there for six weeks, 1155 01:51:19,214 --> 01:51:23,185 drinking drink after drink after drink and throwing up 1156 01:51:23,343 --> 01:51:29,225 until finally he said �No, I don't want to drink any more� and that's when they would release you. 1157 01:51:29,391 --> 01:51:31,393 They thought you were cured. 1158 01:51:31,602 --> 01:51:35,778 And Buster told me he got out of the Keeley Cure 1159 01:51:37,441 --> 01:51:39,569 and was walking home. 1160 01:51:39,735 --> 01:51:41,328 Nobody met him. 1161 01:51:42,529 --> 01:51:46,955 Nobody met him! He was alone, he was discarded. 1162 01:51:47,117 --> 01:51:50,542 That's what hurts me the most about it, 1163 01:51:50,704 --> 01:51:53,708 that he was just... thrown away. 1164 01:51:55,042 --> 01:51:57,841 This genius was just thrown away. 1165 01:51:58,795 --> 01:52:04,723 And he was walking across a golf course to take a shortcut home. 1166 01:52:04,885 --> 01:52:09,937 And he saw a bar on the 18th hole 1167 01:52:10,098 --> 01:52:14,524 and he said �I wanted to be sure I had my life back. 1168 01:52:14,686 --> 01:52:19,362 �So I went in and drank fifteen martinis the day I got out. 1169 01:52:19,524 --> 01:52:21,117 �Then I went home." 1170 01:52:21,276 --> 01:52:23,404 I don't know what shape he was in. 1171 01:52:25,030 --> 01:52:30,457 When I knew him, he never drank anything but a glass of beer occasionally, 1172 01:52:30,619 --> 01:52:32,337 just a glass of beer. 1173 01:53:15,706 --> 01:53:20,883 As Keaton's life infused his art, so, indirectly, did Beckett's his. 1174 01:53:22,170 --> 01:53:28,473 Becketfs mistress Barbara Bray put it rather well to me when she said 1175 01:53:28,635 --> 01:53:34,813 �Sam is just like a swan gliding along on the surface of the lake 1176 01:53:34,975 --> 01:53:42,029 �and every so often will dip and take a morsel from here and from there 1177 01:53:42,190 --> 01:53:45,034 �and then will digest it and make it his own.� 1178 01:53:45,193 --> 01:53:51,166 Things that you are surprised by come back in another form 1179 01:53:51,325 --> 01:53:53,748 and are echoed in his work. 1180 01:53:55,078 --> 01:54:00,551 His Play of 1963 reflects his relationship with Bray. 1181 01:54:03,795 --> 01:54:09,598 The teleplay Eh Joe, which followed Film, begins where Film ends... 1182 01:54:09,760 --> 01:54:12,604 a protracted zoom into a face. 1183 01:54:13,930 --> 01:54:20,279 A woman's voice berates Joe for his sins, high among them, an adulterous love. 1184 01:54:20,437 --> 01:54:23,907 Here, Billie Whitelaw performs the voice. 1185 01:54:26,318 --> 01:54:29,242 You know the one I mean, Joe... 1186 01:54:30,614 --> 01:54:32,491 The green one... 1187 01:54:33,617 --> 01:54:35,335 The narrow one... 1188 01:54:36,578 --> 01:54:38,706 Always pale... 1189 01:54:39,956 --> 01:54:42,334 The pale eyes... 1190 01:54:43,293 --> 01:54:45,921 Spirit made light... 1191 01:54:47,047 --> 01:54:49,926 To borrow your expression... 1192 01:54:50,801 --> 01:54:54,522 The way they opened after... 1193 01:54:55,555 --> 01:54:58,650 Unique... 1194 01:54:59,643 --> 01:55:03,398 One hears in her voice an echo of Beckett's life companion, 1195 01:55:03,563 --> 01:55:06,112 Suzanne Dechevaux-Dumesnil. 1196 01:55:10,612 --> 01:55:11,612 What? 1197 01:55:11,738 --> 01:55:12,455 Who? 1198 01:55:12,614 --> 01:55:13,240 No! 1199 01:55:13,407 --> 01:55:14,408 She! 1200 01:55:16,118 --> 01:55:19,622 After Eh Joe and the transcendent Not I, 1201 01:55:19,788 --> 01:55:22,792 Beckett's work became yet more minimal. 1202 01:55:24,334 --> 01:55:28,635 In 1981, Billie Whitelaw worked on Rockaby. 1203 01:55:30,549 --> 01:55:34,770 Rockabys rocker suggests Keaton's in Film. 1204 01:55:42,936 --> 01:55:48,488 I asked James Knowlson if Beckett himself experienced enlightenment with age. 1205 01:55:49,443 --> 01:55:53,949 He once began to talk to me about old age 1206 01:55:54,114 --> 01:55:59,291 and he said that he'd always hoped that old age, 1207 01:55:59,453 --> 01:56:04,380 which he had associated with spirit and light, 1208 01:56:04,541 --> 01:56:10,548 would actually bring him to a more truthful understanding 1209 01:56:10,714 --> 01:56:17,563 of this ludicrous parabola from youth to old age, 1210 01:56:17,721 --> 01:56:23,444 where you're going through knowledge and then realizing how little you know. 1211 01:56:23,602 --> 01:56:26,071 And I remember saying to him at the time, 1212 01:56:26,188 --> 01:56:29,112 and this was when he was getting quite old, 1213 01:56:29,983 --> 01:56:32,532 �And are you finding this, Sam?" 1214 01:56:33,987 --> 01:56:37,833 And he thought for a moment and he said 1215 01:56:37,949 --> 01:56:39,701 �Not really, not really." 1216 01:56:42,746 --> 01:56:45,716 Perhaps Beckett found only a void at the end. 1217 01:56:46,666 --> 01:56:48,259 We'll never know. 1218 01:56:50,045 --> 01:56:55,893 When I seek my deepest insights, beyond the work itself, or with the work, 1219 01:56:56,051 --> 01:56:58,270 I turn to Billie Whitelaw. 1220 01:56:58,845 --> 01:57:03,646 It was like music. I always thought working for Sam was like working with music. 1221 01:57:04,518 --> 01:57:07,067 Well, you had to say �out... into this world... this world... 1222 01:57:07,229 --> 01:57:10,909 �tiny little thing... before its time... godforsaken hole... called... called... no matter... 1223 01:57:11,066 --> 01:57:13,377 �parents unknown... unheard of... he having vanished... thin air... 1224 01:57:13,401 --> 01:57:16,672 �no sooner buttoned up his breeches... she similarly... eight months later... almost to the tick... 1225 01:57:16,696 --> 01:57:20,343 �so no love... spared that... no love such as normally vented on the... speechless infant... in the home...� 1226 01:57:20,367 --> 01:57:24,247 I'm always clicking my fingers when I'm working with Sam... 1227 01:57:25,038 --> 01:57:26,381 To get the rhythm right. 1228 01:57:27,916 --> 01:57:30,044 Like being my own conductor. 1229 01:57:32,587 --> 01:57:35,090 No... out... into this world... this world... 1230 01:57:35,257 --> 01:57:38,761 tiny little thing... before its time... in a godfor... what?... girl?... yes... 1231 01:57:38,927 --> 01:57:41,806 tiny little girl... into this... out into this... before her time... 1232 01:57:41,972 --> 01:57:45,772 godforsaken hole called... called... no matter... parents unknown... 1233 01:57:45,934 --> 01:57:49,438 unheard of... he having vanished... thin air.. no sooner buttoned up his breeches... 1234 01:57:49,563 --> 01:57:53,318 she similarly... eight months later... almost to the tick... so no love... spared that... 1235 01:57:53,483 --> 01:57:56,523 no love such as normally vented on the... speechless infant... in the home... 1236 01:57:58,196 --> 01:58:04,044 In D.A. Pennebaker and Chris Hegedus's documentary on Rockaby, we see her rehearse. 1237 01:58:04,744 --> 01:58:07,167 Close of a long day 1238 01:58:07,330 --> 01:58:09,207 to herself 1239 01:58:10,375 --> 01:58:12,093 whom else 1240 01:58:13,545 --> 01:58:15,968 time she stopped 1241 01:58:16,840 --> 01:58:20,845 letdown the blind and stopped 1242 01:58:21,928 --> 01:58:24,477 time she went down 1243 01:58:24,639 --> 01:58:27,643 down the steep stair 1244 01:58:27,809 --> 01:58:30,528 time she went right down 1245 01:58:31,479 --> 01:58:33,857 saying to herself 1246 01:58:35,817 --> 01:58:36,818 l' fill?' 1247 01:58:38,278 --> 01:58:40,280 done with that 1248 01:58:41,156 --> 01:58:42,624 the rocker 1249 01:58:43,491 --> 01:58:46,745 those arms at last 1250 01:58:47,996 --> 01:58:50,124 saying to the rocker 1251 01:58:51,041 --> 01:58:53,635 stop her eyes 1252 01:58:54,461 --> 01:58:56,714 rock her off 1253 01:58:57,505 --> 01:59:00,349 rock her off 1254 01:59:00,508 --> 01:59:02,510 rock her off... 1255 01:59:14,564 --> 01:59:21,823 When I interviewed her in the fall of 2011, her memory, like Barney Rosset's, was starting to fade. 1256 01:59:21,988 --> 01:59:28,041 Yet still, her self remained, intact, unmarred by persona. 1257 01:59:28,787 --> 01:59:30,664 Most actors, you do the best you can, 1258 01:59:30,830 --> 01:59:35,131 but with Sam, it always came... his work always came from my center. 1259 01:59:36,753 --> 01:59:39,427 I don't know whether that makes any sense to you. 1260 01:59:44,094 --> 01:59:48,600 In her conducting of herself, we see the dissolving of self 1261 01:59:48,765 --> 01:59:52,144 and the doppelg�nger as a path to enlightenment. 1262 01:59:52,310 --> 01:59:55,359 In her late interview, though her memory fades, 1263 01:59:55,522 --> 02:00:00,949 we see her core of self, untouched and whole, waiting for release. 1264 02:02:10,573 --> 02:02:15,750 Your mentioning the experience and camera and so on 1265 02:02:15,912 --> 02:02:19,291 reminds me of a wonderful story about a Swedish cameraman 1266 02:02:19,457 --> 02:02:24,805 who was peering through the viewfinder and lining up a very beautiful shot 1267 02:02:24,963 --> 02:02:27,842 and he's saying, �Oh, this is so wonderful. 1268 02:02:28,007 --> 02:02:29,634 �L wish I was here." 1269 02:02:34,806 --> 02:02:40,484 When George Eastman, the founder of Kodak, committed suicide in 1932, 1270 02:02:40,645 --> 02:02:43,489 he left only a brief note: 1271 02:02:43,648 --> 02:02:47,198 �To my friends: My work is done. 1272 02:02:47,360 --> 02:02:48,862 �W 1273 02:02:50,822 --> 02:02:56,295 In November 1963, a half year before Film began production, 1274 02:02:56,452 --> 02:02:59,080 Alan Schneidefs father died. 1275 02:02:59,247 --> 02:03:01,375 Beckett wrote to him. 1276 02:03:01,541 --> 02:03:05,136 �My very dear Alan, I know your sorrow 1277 02:03:05,295 --> 02:03:11,018 �and I know that for the likes of us there is no ease for the heart to be had from words or reason 1278 02:03:11,175 --> 02:03:16,022 �and that in the very assurance of sorrows fading, there is more sorrow. 1279 02:03:16,180 --> 02:03:20,060 �So I offer you only my deeply affectionate and compassionate thought 1280 02:03:20,226 --> 02:03:23,947 �that the strange thing may never fail you, whatever it is, 1281 02:03:24,063 --> 02:03:28,284 �that gives us the strength to live on and on with our wounds. 1282 02:03:29,861 --> 02:03:32,535 �Ever, Sam.� 1283 02:03:39,954 --> 02:03:44,960 Now, as film itself sheds its material body... 1284 02:03:48,463 --> 02:03:51,216 a new world awaits. 1285 02:08:09,432 --> 02:08:15,064 Subtitle Processing: Kamil Rutkowski / Di Factory Subtitle Editing and Co-Ordination: Nick Shimmin121953

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