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# Welcome to Jamie-Lee's
documentary, documentary
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# With Jamie-Lee on Derry #
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Cheers.
My name is Jamie-Lee O'Donnell.
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{\an2}# Do-da-da-do...
And you might know me from
the comedy series Derry Girls.
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Motherfuckers!
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Motherfucker. It's my new thing.
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In the show, my character Michelle
Mallon is a foul-mouthed schoolgirl
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determined to live her best life,
despite growing up in a war zone.
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Michelle, he's a soldier.
Ach, some of them are rides.
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You're a fucking embarrassment!
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{\an1}LOUD BLAST
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In real life, I'm nothing
like Michelle, of course.
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Listen!
I'm going up the fucking hill.
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{\an4}I'm gonna ask him
a couple of questions.
SHE LAUGHS
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{\an2}I'm an Irish woman,
an Irish working-class woman,
and I'm very proud of that.
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{\an2}I'm a Derry girl born and bred,
and no matter where I am,
Derry is home.
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{\an2}I've always wanted to show people
how amazing it is. Just like
a wee love letter to Derry.
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But nearly 25 years
after the Good Friday Agreement
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marked the start of a new, more
peaceful era for Northern Ireland,
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{\an2}I wanna know if Derry
is a better place to grow up in now
than back then.
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Nothing's really gonna change
if everybody's still segregated.
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{\an2}There's still a massive division
within Derry,
within the two communities.
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I'll be finding out new things
about my own city.
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{\an2}Mad about it.
And visiting parts of it
that I've never set foot in before.
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I saw the Union Jack
and couldn't think.
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As well as coming to terms
with some of my own demons.
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Oh, my God! Oh, my God!
Shite-ing myself to be honest.
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{\an2}Most of all, I'll be trying to
understand what it's like to be
a young person in Derry today.
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No! We have our problems,
but I wanna solve our problems.
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{\an1}Let's get absolutely snattered.
SHE LAUGHS
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Saoirse's one of my best friends.
She's just brilliant to work with.
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I love all the tipples.
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{\an2}We're like the wee terrible twins.
"Do you want another one?" The other
person's not gonna say no.
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Thank you. Cheers.
Thank you. Cheers.
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So, I think Derry is a class
night out, as we all know.
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What is it? What do you miss really
about Derry when you're away?
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I miss, cos Derry's so small,
it's walking distance to get a pint.
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It is, and a night out here
feels like a bigger event.
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Do you know, like a night out
is out out.
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{\an2}Even when people
aren't talking about it,
we throw in the facts about Derry,
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where's the best place to go,
when we signpost it.
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And people say,
"Do you work for the council?"
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We we're like,
"Should we work for the council?"
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Should we? I think we'd do
a really good job.
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We are also full of random facts
about the town.
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We know so many random facts
about Derry.
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Here's some information I know
you didn't want, but here it is.
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{\an4}Facts on Derry by Jamie-Lee
and Saoirse.Facts on Derry.
SHE LAUGHS
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I think it's the people of Derry
that make it special for me.
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{\an2}And it comes with
all their sensibilities
and their weird and wonderful ways.
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{\an2}Like, everything's so intense.
I don't know if that's
from coming with the Troubles,
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or the working-class background,
maybe a combination of everything.
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But brilliant craic.
Brilliant craic. Brilliant craic.
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It's like no matter what this town
has ever went through,
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I think it's bred
this real lust for joy.
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Like, there's no stopping us. Yeah.
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There's no stopping us.
There's no stopping us. Aye.
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While you can probably hear just
how much Saoirse and I love Derry,
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we're not blind to its problems.
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And obviously we're both very proud
of where we're from,
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and I think that we're
so proud of the show, as well,
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and I'm really proud of you
doing this documentary.
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{\an2}I don't think that there really is
a better person that could be
leading this than you.
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I've always just really been
passionate about it growing up,
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{\an2}and some of the injustices
that happened here,
like a lot of other places,
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{\an2}and I just think it was time
to highlight stuff, just from
my perspective, if I can.
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My beautiful hometown is in
the north-west of Northern Ireland,
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close to the Irish border.
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{\an1}KNOCKS ON GLASS
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Licence.
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Where have you come from today?
Derry. Londonderry.
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Derry. Londonderry.
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Calm the fuck down, James!
Are you English? Yeah.
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He's fine. We didn't bring him
up here to kill him or anything.
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Yes, this city is so good,
they named it twice. Well, kind of.
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Catholics call it Derry
and Protestants call it Londonderry.
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{\an2}Behind me here
is the west side of the city,
also known as the city side.
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Back in the day,
that was mostly Catholic.
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And then on the east here
in front of me is the water side
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and that was mostly Protestant.
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But even today, not much has changed
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and the two communities
are still largely divided.
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{\an2}This is the Peace Bridge in Derry,
one of three bridges,
cos we apparently love a bridge.
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It was built in 2011
to literally bridge the gap
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between the Catholic community
and the Protestant community.
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{\an2}Because for a wee while,
I don't know if you've heard, we
weren't really getting on the best.
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Have I ever dated a Protestant?
Probably. Without realising.
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{\an2}I definitely got a wee kiss
in a nightclub off a Protestant,
for defs.
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{\an1}SHE LAUGHS
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The way the bridge curves
is meant to symbolise
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that the path to peace
is never straight.
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Turns out, they were right.
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{\an1}SIREN WAILS
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In 1998, after 30 years of violence
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and more than 3,500 deaths,
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the Good Friday Agreement
was signed.
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Protestants and Catholics would now
share power in Northern Ireland
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to make things fairer for all.
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Nearly 25 years later, I want to see
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what life is like for young girls
growing up in Derry today.
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So I've come back to my old school,
St Cecilia's College.
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Although the building has had
a bit of an upgrade since my day,
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it brings back lots of memories.
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A French fella, that's what
I wanna do. Nation of rides.
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{\an2}My fanny's going funny just thinking
about it! Could you not use
that word, Michelle?
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What, fanny? Why do you always
have to be so coarse?
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What's the big deal? We all have
one. I don't. You are one.
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{\an2}Nice to meet yous all, anyway.
Nice to meet you. Aren't you
supposed to be in class? Yeah.
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{\an1}THEY LAUGH
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I can't wait to get back to one of
my favourite classes and teachers,
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Miss McTague and drama. So good to
see you. Thanks for having me back.
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Thanks for having me in your class,
everybody.
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{\an4}It's been a while since you were
here.It's been a tiny while, aye.
THEY LAUGH
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Do you wanna pick yourself out,
cos I thought this was hilarious,
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cos you're hiding behind
a dog poo bin. Of course.
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{\an1}And it's dog shit.OK, good.
SHE LAUGHS
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We'll say dog poo,
and the cot, and the real cot.
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{\an1}It's Channel 4. We can say...
THEY LAUGH
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{\an2}You're in your teacher's classroom
now. I know.
You'll mind your manners.
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Oh, I might just swear.
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As punishment for my bad language...
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Oh, that's not too bad.
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..I have to help tidy up
the props cupboard.
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Look at this.
I remember all this stuff.
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But it gives me a chance
to grill the girls.
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{\an2}Hi. I'm just gonna give you
bunches of stuff and then we can
have a wee sort through.
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# Do-do-do-do
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Anyway, so what year are yous all?
Upper sixth. Upper sixth.
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And are yous all from Derry?
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{\an2}Yes.
This is still all girls Catholic
school, is that right? Yeah.
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{\an2}Yous don't have a wee random
Protestant fella running about,
a wee English fella? No.
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That would be a good craic.
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{\an2}It's hard to believe
that more than 90 percent
of children in Northern Ireland
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are still educated
in non-integrated schools.
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That's schools that are effectively
either Catholic or Protestant.
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{\an2}Do yous mix with Protestants
outside, people of different
nationalities, anything like that?
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Or do you stick to your own?
Everybody's different.
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It's not voluntary.
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{\an2}We just, like... Aye.
We just so happen to be surrounded
by our own people, I think.
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{\an2}Seeking out Protestants.
If you're a Protestant,
do you wanna be my friend?
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{\an1}SHE LAUGHS
Do you wanna play netball?
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{\an2}From hearing what your parents went
through or older siblings in terms
of living in Derry and segregation,
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{\an2}do you think that's still as
prominent now, or are you finding
that it's not that big a deal?
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I don't think it has really
anything to do with religion at all.
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It's more political views. Like,
who cares if you're a Protestant?
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Nobody cares
about your actual religion.
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Do you think it's more like
cultural identity? Aye.
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{\an2}So you think there's space
to have a healthy debate
with people of your generation
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about the cultural differences
in Derry?
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I wouldn't say healthy.
Not healthy. No.
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{\an2}Everyone is so opinionated on it
that you almost just don't wanna
get into it,
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if you're, like, friends with them
or... I would disagree.
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{\an2}Say I'm speaking to someone
from Belfast and I find out
they're a Protestant,
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{\an2}we could speak very openly and
honestly, as long as you're both
willing to listen.
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{\an2}But I think in Derry,
we kind of politicise it more,
kind of like standoffish.
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{\an2}It's just nerves.
Everybody's nervous. If you ignore
it, hope it won't be brung up. Aye.
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It seems it can still be hard
to talk about these issues
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and I wonder if it's because
what happened in the past
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is still such a big part
of people's lives in Derry today.
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Because obviously none of yous
were around during the Troubles,
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{\an2}do you think it's, even with your
generation, it still feels
a wee bit personal?
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Northern Ireland as a whole,
Catholics and Protestants,
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have, like, a really high
mental health rate,
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{\an2}and we were saying
that we think a lot of that
does come from the Troubles.
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So it's been, like, passed down
through, like, trauma.
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{\an2}So is it safe to say,
in your generation,
you still feel impacted by it
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even though yous weren't there in
person? Oh, definitely. Yeah. Aye.
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God, that's really scary, isn't it?
It's like our mummies and daddies.
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Of course.
It's not that far back in history.
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For yous to feel it's impacted
your lives now is insane.
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{\an2}There's a whole new generation of
people still trying to figure it out
and still discussing it.
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Like, it's a massive issue.
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{\an2}I don't think I was surprised
that they didn't have
much cross-community
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or much integration
with the Protestant community.
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{\an2}You just kind of wish that it wasn't
happening still. You'd think
we'd have moved on a wee bit.
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{\an2}But it's made me think
about the fact that I also lived
a fairly segregated life
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within my own Catholic community.
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{\an8}Maybe it's time I experienced
parts of this city
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{\an8}I've spent my entire life
scared to visit.
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When I set out to discover
what it's like
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to be a young person in Derry today,
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I didn't expect to be talking
about the Troubles quite so soon.
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But I've realised
that to understand Derry,
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you have to go back
to the 30th of January 1972.
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Hello, Ciara.
Hello, Jamie-Lee, how are you?
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Great. Thanks for having me.
Not at all. Thank you for coming.
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Ciara O'Connor Pozo is showing me
around the Museum Of Free Derry,
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{\an2}where the main exhibition
remembers a day the people of Derry
will never forget.
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This is the Derry
Civil Rights Association banner.
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And it was actually carried
on Bloody Sunday.
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You might see that
it's kind of a bit stained,
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and that's actually because it was
lain over the body of Hugh Gilmour,
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who was shot
just outside the Rossville flats.
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17-year-old Hugh Gilmour
was shot dead on Bloody Sunday.
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He was one of 13 people killed by
British Army paratroopers that day.
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A 14th man died from his injuries
five months later.
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It's quite a sad exhibition,
as well. It's quite powerful.
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It is. It's really overwhelming,
isn't it... Mm-hm. ..to see it?
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The Troubles in Northern Ireland
started in the late 1960s,
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fuelled by historical events
and social injustices.
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After more than 700 years
of British rule,
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Ireland had been partitioned
in 1921.
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Six of the island's 32 counties
became Northern Ireland
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and remained under British rule.
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{\an2}After partition,
many Catholics in Northern Ireland
faced discrimination,
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particularly in housing, jobs,
voting and political representation.
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{\an2}By the 1960s,
people here were taking to the
streets in civil rights protests.
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{\an2}It was against this backdrop
that one of Northern Ireland's
darkest days unfolded
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right here in Derry.
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{\an1}GUNFIRE
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I would describe Bloody Sunday as...
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a day in Derry history,
Irish history,
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that changed the course of history.
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{\an4}EXPLOSION
Three hours
after the procession began,
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this has ended up,
as dusk comes onto the Bogside,
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as the worst ever confrontation
between the Army
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and the Catholic people
of the Creggan and Bogside.
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It was a civil rights march.
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The Derry people were marching
for the rights that they deserved.
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{\an1}EXPLOSION
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And the British paratroopers
opened fire
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and murdered 13 people on the day,
14 total.
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Innocent, defenceless people.
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{\an2}There are three in that Saracen
car. There are two men laying
at the end of this block of flats.
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{\an2}There's another man at least
very close to being dead.
There are two others up there.
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{\an1}SIREN WAILS
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{\an2}This exhibit actually contains
personal effects that would have
belonged to the victims.
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One of the ones that I think is
really powerful is this baby grow,
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that was used to stem the blood
of Michael Kelly.
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{\an2}And he was brought in injured
to a house and this woman
obviously just found a baby grow
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and used it to stop the blood.
But he unfortunately died.
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{\an2}There was quite a few 17-year-olds
that died on the day,
and he was one of them.
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How prominent do you think
those stories are?
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Do you think they would resonate
with 17-year-olds now?
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{\an2}There's young people here in Derry
that would go on climate marches
and... Yeah.
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..we kind of take that, that right
to go out and make our views heard,
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we kind of take that
nearly for granted.
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And this was just 50 years ago.
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{\an2}The Bloody Sunday families
spent decades fighting to clear
the names of their loved ones.
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An initial inquiry had endorsed
claims that the soldiers opened fire
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only after they came under attack
from the crowd.
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In 2010,
the Saville Inquiry made it clear
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that soldiers had lied
in these claims
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and concluded that the killings
were unjustifiable.
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Now, Saville uses the term
"unjustifiable."
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But to me, and most people I know,
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an unjustifiable killing
is the same as murder.
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It took 38 years for the British
government to apologise.
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What happened on Bloody Sunday
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was both unjustified
and unjustifiable.
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{\an1}CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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{\an2}The trauma of the violence
doesn't just affect
those who lived through it.
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{\an2}The stories of the Troubles
and the soldiers and all that,
we all know that.
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It's not that far back in the past.
My parents had lessons in school
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how to listen out for gunfire
and what material to hide behind.
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Was it under a car or behind a wall?
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To understand about bombs
and things like that.
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{\an1}GUNSHOT
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{\an2}But growing up in Derry,
it was just...
you just always had to be aware,
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{\an2}and I didn't really fully know why
because I didn't grow up
through the 70s.
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{\an2}But there was just this sort of
panicked energy around the adults
of just fear.
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It's been 50 years
since Bloody Sunday,
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and I've been asked to do a reading
at a special commemoration event.
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Thanks for inviting me.
It's an honour.
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{\an2}But I always get really nervous
with stuff like this, cos it's such
a huge responsibility, isn't it?
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{\an2}We wanted to put together
a massive public event
that everyone could attend.
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{\an2}It's kind of about looking forward
with hope, but still remembering
what happened.
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{\an2}It's shaped our culture
in many ways. It has.
I'm even more nervous now.
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{\an2}Being in the museum and speaking to
Ciara, I think it's really brought
home the responsibility
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that I have in that little section
of the performance
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{\an2}at making sure I do it justice
and do Derry people proud and
the people who've gone through it.
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So it's nerve-racking,
but I'm really honoured to be asked.
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{\an2}Growing up in Derry,
I spent most of my time with people
brought up Catholic like me.
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But around a quarter of
the population here is Protestant.
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And while I've had
a few Protestant friends,
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{\an2}I don't know much about
their culture or traditions.
Except for one.
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To think, I could be
staring at him right now.
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You can't marry an Orange man,
Michelle. It's a pity.
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{\an2}Because I think there's something
really sexy about the fact
that they hate us so much.
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{\an2}No. Have I ever been
to a 12th of July March? No. It's
just funny that you would ask that.
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{\an4}BRASS BAND PLAYS
Everyone in Northern Ireland
knows about the 12th of July,
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or the 12th as it's better known.
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It's the anniversary
of the Battle of the Boyne in 1690,
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when a Protestant king
defeated a Catholic king.
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{\an2}Protestant marches and parades
take place on this
and other big anniversaries
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throughout the year
in Northern Ireland.
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One of the organisations
that celebrates Protestant culture
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is based in this building
right in the centre of Derry.
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And needless to say, I've never
set foot in this place before.
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Something I never thought
in a million years I would do,
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{\an2}cos I thought I'd just walk in
and catch flames or something,
I don't know.
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Plot twist. I'm a Protestant.
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I'm here to meet one of the oldest
foot bands in the country,
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{\an2}who take part in lots
of different events and parades,
including the 12th.
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{\an1}BAND PLAYS
It's my favourite.
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As I walk in, their weekly
practice is well underway.
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Even hearing this music
makes me feel a bit weird.
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{\an2}Something you need to know about me
is that when I'm nervous,
I talk... a lot.
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{\an4}Hello.How are you?Do you know any
Wolfe Tones? No, I'm only joking.
THEY LAUGH
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{\an2}Thank yous for having me.
And I just wanted to sort of
get a wee chat to yous
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and just ask yous
what is all this about?
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{\an1}What's the craic?What's the craic?
THEY LAUGH
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{\an2}It's a big surprise,
I don't know anybody
who plays in a marching band.
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And is it predominantly Protestant
people that play in the bands?
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{\an2}It is, yes.
It's predominant Protestant.
Is there any bands that you know of
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that has a mix
of different religions?
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{\an2}Obviously, on parade,
if it's an Orange parade, it usually
technically would always be...
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Just for safety reasons,
it has to be all Protestants.
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{\an2}But, I mean, we do cross-border
things with Catholics bands,
if you want to call them that.
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You're brought up with it
and you do join from an early age.
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Younger people, again, a lot
of them come from family members.
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{\an2}And it can transpire into academia,
as well. So a lot of the parents
are very happy for them
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to come and learn their instruments
and become part of the band.
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It's all going so well
until I mention Bloody Sunday.
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{\an2}I also wanted to ask yous,
the 50th anniversary
of Bloody Sunday is coming up,
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and I just wanted to ask, again,
you don't have to answer,
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what's your perception of that?
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{\an2}Would yous, I don't know, would yous
be interesting in that at all?
Or does it...
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{\an2}Is it anything to do with yous,
or how would yous feel about it?
If anything. It might be nothing.
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OK, Great.
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There was just a radio silence.
And I'll be honest,
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I was really, really shocked,
because I didn't anticipate...
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a reaction about it
different to mine.
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And I know that's a wee bit
ignorant to me, I suppose.
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But I really didn't expect
that level of silence at all.
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I think I made people really
uncomfortable. And I didn't mean to.
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{\an2}So we just moved on
with the conversation. I think
I made a couple of awkward jokes
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{\an2}cos I just do that whenever
it's awkward. You just sort of
have a couple of jokes.
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Well, we'll just put that aside.
We'll put that aside.
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Do yous know any Irish jigs? I don't
think I even know any Irish jigs.
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There's Irish jigs in the folder.
Irish jigs, aye.
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Guys, it's not in the folder.
What's this wee guy called?
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It looks like a wee hotdog.
It's a baton. Baton!
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{\an4}Hold the big end. There we go.
THEY LAUGH
I thought it was the wee hotdog end.
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{\an1}THEY LAUGH
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{\an1}One, two.
THEY PLAY
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This feels slightly surreal.
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Here I am conducting
a Protestant flute band,
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surrounded by flags
I'd usually run a mile from.
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{\an8}Unlike me,
many in the Protestant community
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{\an8}see themselves as British
and are loyal to the Crown.
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But even though we come
from very different worlds,
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everyone in the flute band
has been really welcoming to me.
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{\an2}That was really good.
Yous are really, really good.
That's brilliant.
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{\an2}I want to find out more about
what it's like to be a young person
in the Protestant community here.
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{\an2}Hi, Julie, how are you? How are you?
I'm good. So I'm meeting Julie
from the band for a drink.
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{\an2}Was there any feedback
after I left? Were they thinking,
"She's a head case"?
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{\an2}We want you as our new conductor
now.
That was really good, wasn't it?
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Yous are good banter, as well.
It was a good craic.
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I just sort of wanted to ask,
do you think there's certain things
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{\an2}that are really affecting the
Protestant community in Derry at the
moment? Any sort of social issues?
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{\an2}A lot of working-class
Protestant areas,
there's problems with education,
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{\an2}under-achievement within education,
particularly within working-class
Protestant boys.
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There's been an increase
in the use of food banks.
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So there is a lot of social issues
going on,
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particularly within the Protestant
community at the minute, as well.
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{\an2}When you look across the spectrum of
the city, you see that everybody's
facing the same thing.
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{\an2}We're feeling people who are
struggling with mental health issues
across Northern Ireland.
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And so something really needs
to be done about it.
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I don't know what it's like to grow
up in the Protestant community
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{\an2}or to be British
over in this part of the world.
I can't imagine the goal... was...
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for the Protestant community to come
down and face the problems we have.
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It just feels like
everybody's fucked now.
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While the British government
has said
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its commitment to Northern Ireland
and the union is unshakeable,
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many people feel the problems here
are being made worse by Brexit.
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{\an2}And there's increased discussions
about the possibility
of a border pool
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and a united Ireland.
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How do you think that would make
you feel, or your community feel?
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{\an2}There is a wee bit of hurt in the
community that sometimes we're just
sort of still just seen as,
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{\an2}"Oh, they're Irish over there."
Whereas we see ourselves
as British Northern Irish.
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We would want to remain
part of the UK.
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So any issues that stem
from our community,
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{\an2}regardless, come from the fact
that sometimes you can feel
identity slipping away.
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And identity is a very important
thing to Protestant people
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because it's part of who we are.
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{\an2}And what would you say
in the next ten years
would you like to see, if anything?
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I would just like to see
the city thriving. Peaceful freedom,
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peaceful celebration of culture
for everybody.
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{\an2}Thank you so much, Julie.
I really appreciate it.
And cheers to the wee drink.
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{\an4}Thanks for coming.
Let's get absolutely snattered.
THEY LAUGH
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I'm so pleased Derry is now a place
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where I can go for a drink
with someone like Julie.
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But this is a city still held
hostage by its complicated history.
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{\an2}And I've realised that to move on,
we need to tackle the trauma
head-on.
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Even if that means confronting
my own demons.
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..that will live long
in the memory of the people.
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{\an8}What was supposed to be
a simple civil rights march
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{\an8}turned into a day
of bloodshed and horror.
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{\an2}I'm rehearsing my lines
for the Bloody Sunday
50th anniversary event.
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British men thumbing through history
pages looking for solutions...
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It's a huge part of Derry history.
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Obviously it was a negative part
for such a long time,
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and I think this commemoration
service that's happening
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is maybe a way to look at how far
we've come in this city, hopefully,
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and that in itself
is such a big responsibility.
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What was supposed to be
a simple civil rights march
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turned into a day of bloodshed
and horror
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that will live long
in the memory of the people.
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Having to think about what happened
is proving difficult for me
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and is bringing a lot of my own
childhood trauma to the surface.
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If you grew up in a certain place
where you're afraid of the police,
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it definitely does something
to your decisions
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and how you feel about yourself
and how you value yourself.
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{\an2}If the people who are supposed
to protect you, look after you,
you're brought up afraid of them,
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and are distrusting of them...
it leaves you a bit lost.
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It's just fucking overwhelming. And
I just think it's unfair for people,
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especially my parents' generation.
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{\an2}Looking back as an adult,
it's really hard not to get
really heartbroken by it,
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and you feel, like, devastated
for your family.
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{\an2}Maybe it's no wonder
many people think there's
a mental health crisis in Derry,
414
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,840
something experts recognise as
linked to Troubles-related trauma.
415
00:26:52,120 --> 00:26:56,280
{\an2}These people still struggle
with the devastation of it.
We're still segregated.
416
00:26:58,120 --> 00:27:01,400
And that's just not fixed
within a generation.
417
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,600
Despite everything
this place has been through,
418
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:18,280
{\an2}there's a resilience in Derry people
that I think is nothing short
of incredible.
419
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,120
Hi, Serena. Oh, hey! How are you?
420
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:28,080
{\an2}Serena Terry
is an amazingly-talented Derry woman
turned online sensation.
421
00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:32,000
Her character, Mammy Banter,
has over 20 million likes on TikTok.
422
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,640
Don't judge me, right? Right.
423
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,400
I can do it. Jesus shit!
424
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,600
{\an4}I don't know where he's heard that.
That's class!
SHE LAUGHS
425
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,880
Serena has used
this huge online platform
426
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,720
to get people talking
about mental health in Derry.
427
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,640
And she's brutally honest
about her own experience.
428
00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:00,680
{\an2}My name's Serena. I'm a mum of two,
35-year-old, and I am on medication
for anxiety and depression
429
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,760
and have been for six years.
But that was enough then
430
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,560
{\an2}to start the conversation and the
narrative around mental health,
and the feedback I got
431
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,920
from thousands and thousands
of people
432
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,800
to say that they, too, were either
on medication for anxiety,
433
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,800
or were suffering, feeling that
they couldn't ask for help,
434
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,120
that this is just
part and parcel of life.
435
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:27,240
{\an2}Serena's struggle with anxiety
is something many people,
including me, could relate to.
436
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,320
{\an2}When I got to the stage
of asking for help,
it took me about two years.
437
00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:34,360
I was in complete denial.
And I just broke down
438
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,920
in front of the doctors and that
was enough for them to see...
439
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,240
Aye, it's a scary thing.
That happened to myself, too,
440
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,520
and I was worried about my anxiety,
even after Derry Girls took off.
441
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,640
{\an2}And you think
all your Christmases came at once
so you should be dead happy
442
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,680
and everything's supposed
to be fine. Perfect.
443
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,200
And then it's like, "Well,
what have you got to be sad about?"
444
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,560
{\an2}And you start to think about it,
you're like "Fuck everything!"
I wrote my will. Jesus!
445
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,800
{\an2}I wrote my will. I was going to bed
every night thinking I'm not gonna
wake up in the morning.
446
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,240
And it spiralled into anxiety
and panic attacks and depression.
447
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,880
Serena's openness is helping me
confront my own feelings.
448
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,600
Do you know what? Even doing this
documentary, I'm struggling,
449
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,080
cos I get so much anxiety
when I'm going to film,
450
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,680
in my stomach, and I feel like
I physically want to run away,
451
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,760
{\an2}but I have to just get over it,
and I've been doing that,
and I'm glad I am,
452
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:23,160
{\an2}but even now, pulling apart all this
stuff and having to think about
my life... Your personal stuff.
453
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:28,960
{\an2}..it's freaking me out. Is it?
But I'm glad I'm doing it.
Have you ever been so open? No.
454
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,000
{\an2}This whole process has been dead
nerve-racking and really
uncomfortable, if I'm being honest.
455
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,840
I know it's something I want to do.
I knew it would be uncomfortable
456
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,720
{\an2}because it's close to home
and I don't like crying.
I still have that sort of...
457
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,400
{\an2}that sort of closed-off-ness
that you sort of get
coming from here sometimes.
458
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,560
How would you view the mental health
crisis within Derry?
459
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,560
I have seen first-hand, erm...
460
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,360
the legacy of the conflict
and the Troubles,
461
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,680
from my daddy and him
having paranoid schizophrenia.
462
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:02,080
The legacy of deprivation,
poverty and...
463
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:07,000
most recently, I've seen
the legacy of lack of funding.
464
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:12,880
We've less funding for mental health
services than anywhere in the UK.
465
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,600
And it just frustrates me.
It just doesn't make any sense.
466
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,120
So we walk further down the beach
and we do a wee warm up,
467
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,320
just to get the blood going
and heat up the body.
468
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:29,040
{\an2}Serena decided to try and improve
her own mental health
with some cold-water swimming.
469
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,160
Now hundreds of others in Derry
are joining her.
470
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,720
The cold-water dipping. Yes.
I think it sounds terrifying.
471
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,920
You look really nervous every time
you say that. Because it's mental.
472
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,840
It doesn't make any sense. It's
Ireland. What are you talking about?
473
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,600
So I went and I tried it and...
474
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,080
{\an2}within a couple of days,
my whole mood changed. I felt
as if I could take on the world.
475
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,480
And I started documenting it
on Instagram.
476
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,920
So many people were like, "Tell me
more about this cold-water dipping."
477
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:58,360
{\an2}So I put an open invite, I set up a
page on Instagram and I said, "Come
along. I'll teach yous how to do it.
478
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:03,240
{\an2}"We'll go down every week."
And here we are.
We've over 200 people in the group.
479
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:11,960
{\an2}It's ranging from 17, 18-year-old
girls who are suffering with anxiety
and are using it as treatment,
480
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,480
and then we've got
that older demographic,
481
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,800
who are grieving from suicide.
482
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:24,520
{\an2}The way I see it,
if ten people are benefiting
more now with their mental health
483
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,000
than they were before Christmas,
484
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,240
it's the proudest thing
I've ever done in my life.
485
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,360
I wanna help you. OK. Cos you've
been feeling a wee bit anxious.
486
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,560
Yes, very much so. Are you gonna
come down into the cold water?
487
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,840
Erm... You'll love it, I swear.
488
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:43,320
{\an2}You'll hit me. You'll probably punch
me in the first 20 seconds,
but you'll love it.
489
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,360
{\an2}Can I have a wee think and see
the craic? Cos it is winter.
Have a wee think.
490
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,760
I would really, really love you
to come down, though. OK.
491
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,960
And I think it'll just calm you.
492
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,360
{\an1}CLOCK CHIMES
493
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,680
{\an1}CLOCK CHIMES
494
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,000
I don't remember ever finding out
about Bloody Sunday.
495
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,680
I think it was just always something
that everybody knew about.
496
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,960
My grandpa marched in Bloody Sunday,
like a lot of people's families did.
497
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,920
My family knew some of the people
who were murdered.
498
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,280
It's sewn into who we are as people.
499
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,560
It's 50 years today
since Bloody Sunday
500
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,400
and preparations are underway
for the commemoration event.
501
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,560
I'm really, really nervous,
if I'm honest.
502
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,640
It's a huge thing, it's a huge deal
to be here and to be part of it,
503
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:42,560
{\an2}and I'm just massively appreciative,
and just hope I do it justice
and do it well.
504
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,920
{\an2}I'm also nervous that I'm sharing
the stage with Derry actress and
Hollywood star Bronagh Gallagher.
505
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,920
We have to remember
the line we come in.
506
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,560
I think it goes name, then lights,
they were saying last night,
507
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,200
so I'll say the name,
cues the light. Is that right?
508
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:03,520
Our role is to read out the names
of the people who died that day.
509
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:08,320
{\an2}So it's like a wee five seconds
in between. Yeah. Yeah.
We can try it now.
510
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:14,320
{\an2}As the audience take their seats,
I'm trying to focus
on what I have to do.
511
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,120
This is one of the most important
performances of my life.
512
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,680
Right.
513
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,680
{\an2}Oh, my God! I'm shite-ing myself. I
just realised I have to go on stage.
I always do this,
514
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,880
like, walking out.
515
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,440
{\an2}Until I have a drink of water,
and then just sort of panic. And be
like, "Oh! I have to go on stage!"
516
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,760
It's a technique, I suppose.
517
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,640
ALL: # Oh, Danny boy
518
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:51,360
# The pipes, the pipes are calling
519
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,520
# From glen to glen
520
00:33:55,560 --> 00:34:00,760
# And down the mountain side
521
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,640
# The summer's gone
522
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:11,880
# And all the flowers are dying
523
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,240
# 'Tis you, 'tis you...
524
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,400
As Bronagh, Adrian Dunbar and I
wait in the wings,
525
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,120
the emotion of the singing
and the sombre atmosphere hits me.
526
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,680
{\an1}APPLAUSE
527
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,960
I'm trying not to cry.
Just until I get through my bit,
528
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,000
because you don't want, like...
529
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,520
{\an2}It was so hard to not let
your emotions run away with you
before I went on stage.
530
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,680
{\an1}APPLAUSE
531
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,520
On that fateful day in 1972,
532
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,080
the world saw what happened.
533
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,880
The whole world knew
of the 14 innocents stolen away.
534
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,240
The absence of justice
535
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,400
and the depth of grief
536
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,240
are scarred
on the souls of the bereaved.
537
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,880
I think every family in Derry
has experienced trauma.
538
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,560
Everybody in the north has.
How could you not?
539
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,120
You talk about people who had lost
their lives, who were murdered,
540
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,160
and who died in such an awful way.
541
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:38,160
And to be able to remember that
and note it 50 years later,
542
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:43,320
{\an2}I mean, it felt like you could've
heard a pin drop when we were
talking, which was amazing.
543
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,600
Kevin McElhinney.
544
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,800
Bernard McGuigan.
545
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,720
For all the victims of the conflict.
546
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,880
{\an1}CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
547
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,400
{\an2}I was actually squeezing my hand
so I wouldn't cry, especially
when the music kicked in.
548
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,080
I feel like I've been
holding this in for ages.
549
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,040
It sort of just brings it all home,
doesn't it?
550
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,840
About what everybody in Derry
went through.
551
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,800
And there's a lot of good, as well,
obviously, to come from this, but...
552
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,920
aye, it's a lot. I knew this was
gonna happen at some point.
553
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,880
I'm so glad we did it. So am I.
And we didn't break down.
554
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,800
So hopefully I done everybody proud.
Hopefully.
555
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:55,760
{\an2}Remembering the horror
of Bloody Sunday reminds me how
important it is to try and secure
556
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,440
a fair and peaceful future
for everyone in Derry.
557
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,600
But we're not quite there yet,
and I do sometimes wonder
558
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,240
has the violence
really gone away for good?
559
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,960
I've been discovering
just how much Derry's past
560
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,320
has influenced its people today,
myself included.
561
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:24,440
{\an8}And I've learned there's no single
solution to the challenges we face,
562
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,240
but that it's good to be open
to new experiences.
563
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,320
This is gonna be a nightmare.
Or brilliant, one of the two.
564
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,080
So, it's January
565
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,240
and it's Ireland
566
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,520
and I'm not quite sure
how it's come about,
567
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,680
but I'm going for a swim.
568
00:37:43,720 --> 00:37:46,440
I can't believe
I'm gonna go do this.
569
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,480
Oh, it's freezing.
570
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,800
I'm joining Serena and dozens of
locals for some cold-water swimming
571
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,920
to try and help my anxiety.
572
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,000
Everybody, are you ready
to get into the water?
573
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,360
Oh, my God! Oh, my God!
574
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,560
Jamie-Lee, come on down with me.
575
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,520
Ladies, I want yous
to move over here.
576
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,920
Are yous ready? ALL: Yeah!
577
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:18,640
{\an2}I've never done this before,
but now that I'm here,
there's no turning back.
578
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,520
I'm just glad Serena's there
to look after me in the water.
579
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,760
{\an2}It's quite overwhelming.
It is. Quite emotional. It is.
But it's really, really class.
580
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,720
It just... It's like mindfulness.
It's forced mindfulness.
581
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:46,280
{\an2}Cos the only thing
you can concentrate on
is the cold in your body.
582
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,600
It just feels well euphoric.
It does. Doesn't it?
583
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,360
It's all spiritual. It is. It is.
It's overwhelming, but it's class.
584
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:57,920
{\an2}You've actually done it. Thank you.
It was so brilliant. I'm so glad
you invited me. Thank you.
585
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,360
I'm glad you did it. Well done.
586
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,360
I was really terrified
at the start.
587
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,120
It's kind of like there's literally
nothing else to think about.
588
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:12,000
{\an2}And it's really, really, really hard
to empty your brain of thoughts
and worries.
589
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,280
I think I will do it again.
I do. I think I'll do it again.
590
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,520
{\an8}Like lots of the people I met
on the beach today,
591
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,200
{\an8}I'm working through
my own experiences.
592
00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:30,000
Serena and her amazing community
593
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,400
are doing their bit to support
each other and stay positive.
594
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,840
And that's something
Derry is very good at.
595
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,800
{\an2}But it's not always easy
because there can still be
outbreaks of violence here
596
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,880
that wouldn't be normal
in other parts of the UK.
597
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,320
In 2019, Belfast-born journalist
Lyra McKee was shot
598
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,600
while observing rioting in Derry.
599
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,960
She died later in hospital.
600
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,920
Obviously it was shocking
that somebody had died,
601
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,880
and obviously it was heartbreaking
and should never have happened.
602
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:14,840
The fact that there was unrest in
that part of Derry wasn't shocking,
603
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,280
{\an2}in any part of Derry.
I'm sure people in Belfast
or whatever will tell you the same,
604
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,440
{\an2}it's not that it's overly shocking.
There's still civil unrest here.
There just is.
605
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:28,800
{\an2}Lyra was killed
on the Creggan estate,
not far from where I grew up.
606
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:33,600
Here tensions remain between
some of the residents and the place.
607
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:41,480
{\an2}I've arranged to catch up with
Jordan, one of the girls I met
earlier in my old school,
608
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,880
to find out
what life's like here now.
609
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,880
Hey. What's the craic? Lovely to see
you. Good to see you again.
610
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,080
Out of your uniform.
I know. It's great.
611
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,320
How long have you lived in Creggan?
Oh, my whole life.
612
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:58,040
{\an2}It's a real sense of community.
I used to hang around here when I
was younger. I grew up beside here.
613
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,960
I know Creggan well. A lot of my
family and friends are from there.
614
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,080
I hung around there, grew up there.
615
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,440
{\an2}Had a couple of sneaky
alcoholic beverages there
when I was too young.
616
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,600
{\an2}We used to hang around sort of
the youth clubs and stuff,
like St Mary's and stuff. Aye.
617
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,480
Do you still do that?
What's it like now for young people?
618
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,280
{\an2}Erm, St Mary's actually got done up.
Oh, did it?
Aye. It's massive looking now.
619
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:21,520
{\an2}They've put loads
of new equipment in it. Obviously,
you ran round here, as well.
620
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,640
I did. What was it
that you would have done?
621
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,840
{\an4}I don't think
we can say it on camera.
THEY LAUGH
622
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,880
Obviously, like a lot of estates
in a lot of places,
623
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,520
there's some negative
as well as the positive. Yeah.
624
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,840
And obviously we know
what's happened with Lyra McKee.
625
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,120
{\an2}Have you noticed,
from younger to now,
a difference in police presence?
626
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,520
Obviously,
there is a police presence,
627
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,360
but there's a police presence
everywhere you go in Derry. Mm.
628
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:51,640
{\an2}It's never been, like, scary
or, like, extra violent,
except for obviously what happened.
629
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,920
{\an2}If anything, I think it kind of
just brought the community
closer together. Right.
630
00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:00,720
{\an2}There was a vigil down there for her
and I think the whole of Creggan
had come out of their houses
631
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,280
and had come down and had stood
and had prayed for her.
632
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,360
{\an2}Do you think that there's
a fair representation of Creggan
in the media at the moment?
633
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:14,040
{\an2}I think sometimes Creggan
can get a wee bit of an unfair
viewpoint from some people.
634
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:18,640
{\an2}It's not every single day
something like that happens.
That was really, really... random
635
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:22,760
{\an2}and out of the blue,
and nothing like that
has ever happened in my lifetime.
636
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,720
You feel quite safe.
637
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,440
There's a plane. That's what it is.
Paps in Creggan.
638
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,640
I'm keen to know whether Jordan will
stay in Derry after her A-levels.
639
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,080
{\an2}Both of us went to St Cecilia's,
which is school on Creggan,
I know there's more,
640
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:42,320
{\an2}but I feel like the schools,
especially the girls schools
in Derry,
641
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,920
they really set women up
for hopefully a brighter future.
642
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,680
What do you see for your future?
What's the plans for Jordan?
643
00:42:49,720 --> 00:42:53,640
I have applied to uni in Leeds
to do mental health and counselling,
644
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,520
cos I wanna go on to be
a rehabilitation counsellor
645
00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,600
and come back and work in Derry.
Cos I feel like Derry needs it.
646
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,560
{\an2}Just experience something else
and bring back all the experiences.
Aye. Definitely.
647
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,600
{\an2}Obviously, you'll meet new friends
from different backgrounds
and different cultures.
648
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,760
{\an2}Would you be keen to bring them
back to show them Derry?
Oh, 100 percent.
649
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,800
I'm proud of Derry. They're gonna be
told about all the great things.
650
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,320
They're gonna be told about
Halloween and St Patrick's Day
651
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,280
and about how Derry
has so many things to offer people.
652
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,680
Mad about it.
Right, thank you so much.
653
00:43:23,720 --> 00:43:26,560
I couldn't agree more.
And with young women like Jordan
654
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,960
keen to make her city
a better place,
655
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,120
I feel like Derry's future
is looking bright.
656
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,680
ALL: Happy St Patrick's Day!
657
00:43:41,720 --> 00:43:45,360
St Patrick's Day is a celebration
of Irish culture for everybody.
658
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:55,680
Everybody wants to celebrate it
and take part. It's all inclusive.
659
00:43:55,720 --> 00:43:58,280
Hello! How are you?
Hi, Julie, what's the craic?
660
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,800
Of all the people
I've met during filming,
661
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,880
I'm most surprised to bump into
Julie from the flute band.
662
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,760
Because not all Protestants
celebrate Ireland's patron saint.
663
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,720
Love the green. Thank you. It's like
a stylish Paddy's Day, isn't it?
664
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,560
How are yous guys? We're very good.
665
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,240
While she's been in the town
on St Patrick's Day before,
666
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,880
this is the first time Julie
has been to watch the parade.
667
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,600
Just with the whole, the fact that
this is obviously tricolours,
668
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,880
{\an2}does that bother you at all,
or is it something
that you're really happy about?
669
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,320
{\an2}It doesn't bother me,
cos when we're at the 12th of July,
it's Union flags.
670
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:34,040
{\an2}When you're down here,
it's tricolours everywhere.
It doesn't really matter to me.
671
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:38,520
{\an2}In what way do you think Paddy's Day
compares to the 12th?
Or is it really similar?
672
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:42,680
{\an2}You know, it's packed,
there's so many people about,
you get to interact with people,
673
00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:45,600
it's so similar what they actually
are and what you do on the day.
674
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,560
It's just sort of
different sides of one coin.
675
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:53,360
{\an2}It was genuinely lovely to see yous.
I hope you have a great day
and get your well-deserved pints.
676
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,440
Julie's positivity about our city
is infectious.
677
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,080
And on a day like today,
with the sun shining,
678
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,520
I'm proud to call myself
a Derry girl.
679
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,680
Mind you, I'm still working through
my own feelings
680
00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:12,600
about growing up in this brilliant
but complicated wee place.
681
00:45:13,720 --> 00:45:18,600
{\an2}But I'm more convinced than ever
that there will be a bright future
for all of us.
682
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,920
I just feel like
Derry's gonna be booming.
683
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:27,200
I've got so much positive
expectations of Derry.
684
00:45:27,240 --> 00:45:30,000
I think there does seem to be
this thing of people are realising
685
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,560
you don't always have to leave Derry
to become something.
686
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,960
And if you do, you can always
come back and bring it back.
687
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,320
And that the older you get,
again, from my own perspective,
688
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:44,560
{\an2}the more I realise that the Derry
community is responsible, in a large
way, to who I am and my success.
689
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,560
{\an2}But the fact that
we're able to get where we are
with the lack of resources,
690
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,800
can you imagine what we could do
if we were fully resourced?
691
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,440
Can you imagine what Derry people
could achieve?
692
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,560
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