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Tommy, hit it up. Let's have it.
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- May I cut in?
- Why, certainly.
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Boys will be boys.
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Not all girls are raving
bloody lesbians, you know.
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That is a misfortune that
I am perfectly well aware of.
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She says that I think more of you
than I do of her.
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Well, you do, don't you?
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Well, we won't go into that.
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Go right ahead, boys.
Don't mind me.
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But you're not a girl.
You're a guy.
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- Why would a guy want to marry a guy?
- Security.
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I think that the right woman
could reform you.
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You know, I think the right woman
could reform you too.
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These aren't my clothes.
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Well, why are you
wearing these clothes?
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Because I just went gay
all of a sudden!
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In a hundred years of movies...
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homosexuality has only rarely
been depicted on the screen.
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When it did appear, it was there
as something to laugh at...
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or something to pity...
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or even something to fear.
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These were fleeting images,
but they were unforgettable...
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and they left a lasting legacy.
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Hollywood,
that great maker of myths...
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taught straight people
what to think about gay people...
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and gay people what to think
about themselves.
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No one escaped its influence.
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Movies are part of my life...
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part of everybody's life.
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That's where we learn about life.
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Watching Cary Grant taught me
how to behave with a woman...
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how to get dressed at night, how to
go to a restaurant and order dinner.
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They're our storytelling.
They're the fabric of our lives.
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They show us what is glorious...
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and tragic and
wonderful and funny...
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about the day-to-day experiences
we all share.
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When you're gay...
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and don't see that reflected
in any way ever in the movies...
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you began to feel that
something truly is wrong.
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You feel invisible.
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You feel like a ghost...
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and a ghost that
nobody believes in.
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There's this sense of isolation.
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Join the club, man.
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There's a whole group...
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that is not represented.
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We are pathetically starved
for images of ourselves...
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so much so that a friend will call...
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and say, "There's a movie you must see."
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This happened to me.
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"This movie you've got to see. There's
this incredible lesbian relationship.
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There's this great love scene.
All right, they're vampires.
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But you got to see it.
It's great."
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There are lots of needs for art.
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The greatest one is the mirror...
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of our own lives and our own existence.
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That hunger I felt as a kid
looking for gay images...
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was to not be alone.
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My mother took me
to the silent movies...
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in a spirit of
ostentatious condescension.
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she said they were nothing like life...
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and I must not believe them.
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she was wrong.
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Everyone who comes from England
to America and goes back...
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says one thing first.
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"It's more like the movies
than you'd ever dream."
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And it is.
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From the very beginning,
movies could rely on homosexuality...
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as a surefire source of humor.
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Your ideas about who you are
don't just come from inside you.
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They come from the culture.
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In this culture, they come from movies.
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We learn from the movies what
it means to be a man or a woman...
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what it means to have sexuality.
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The movies did provide us
with some kind of history...
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of how society
thought homosexuals were.
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A very good example is a Chaplin film...
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Behind the screen.
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There's a moment where Chaplin
kisses someone who looks like a man.
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He knows that it's a woman.
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someone else comes along
and sees it...
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and immediately starts swishing around
in the most overt effeminate way.
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It's fascinating that those stereotypes
were so completely in place...
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that a mainstream popular film
could assume...
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that the audience would know
what this swishy mime was all about.
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- Mr. Ernest!
- Ernest.
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Dear Ernest!
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Dear Lady Grayston.
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Ernest, I'm so happy
you were able to come.
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You must excuse my coming
in my town clothes...
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but your chauffeur said there wasn't a
moment to lose, so I came just as I am.
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Enter the sissy...
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Hollywood's first
gay stock character.
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The sissy made everyone feel more manly
or more womanly...
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by occupying the space in between.
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He didn't seem
to have a sexuality...
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so Hollywood
allowed him to thrive.
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They were sissies. They were
never addressed as homosexual.
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It was a convention
that was totally accepted.
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They were perceived as homosexuals
just subliminally.
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This subject was not discussed...
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privately, certainly not publicly.
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It wasn't discussed, but you knew.
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They were all very prissy...
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these little skinny white men with
little mustaches who would go like this.
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Stop. Stop. Girls, girls, girls!
Be careful of my hats.
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We gotta get down on the stage.
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I don't care.
I won't allow you to ruin them.
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I told ya they were
too high and too wide.
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Well, big woman.
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I designed the costumes for the show,
not the doors for the theater.
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I know that. If you had,
they'd have been done in lavender.
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This is ripped. Who were you with?
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strangler Lewis.
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Catch as catch can, hmm?
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If we could get the runs with this show
these dames get in their stockings...
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I'd be able to make
the second payment on my kimono.
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Here, Clarence.
Put that in the trunk.
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And don't wear it.
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Selfish.
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They were a clich�.
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I don't care whether
they were a gay clich� or what...
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I thought they were disgusting...
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unfunny, had no business
being in it...
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and I never understood
why people laughed.
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It's the same thing when they had
the steppin' fetchits for the blacks.
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I liked the sissy.
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Is it used in negative ways?
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Yeah, but...
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my view has always been
visibility at any cost.
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I'd rather have negative
than nothing.
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That's just my particular view,
and also because I am a sissy.
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And go dashing up and down the hall
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In one movie you could
even find sissies table-hopping...
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in Hollywood's first peek
at a gay bar.
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If a sailor in pajamas I should see
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I know he'll scare
the life out of me
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And on a great big battleship
you, d like to be
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Working as chambermaids
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sissy characters in movies...
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were always a joke.
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There's no sin like being a woman.
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When a man dresses as a woman,
the audience laughs.
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When a woman dresses as a man,
nobody laughs.
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They just thought
she looked wonderful.
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I saw Marlene Deitrich in Morocco
when I was a teenager.
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I just was flipping
the channels and saw her...
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and decided to settle in
for an old movie.
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There's the scene where...
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she comes into a nightclub,
and she's just stunning...
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in this tuxedo.
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- May I have this?
- of course.
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The camera lingers. I wasn't catching
this out of the side of the screen.
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It's right in the center.
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she has a romance with Gary Cooper
in this movie...
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but that romance just went
right out the window for me.
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I was, "Who was that woman?
What had happened?"
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I start writing a whole other script
for what was really going on.
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The thing worked for everybody
of every sex.
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What's amazing...
I don't think they've done anything...
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as delicious sexually
as that since.
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They didn't pretend
it was anything but what it was.
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she was doing it to turn on
both the woman and the man...
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which appealed to everybody,
as it should.
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It was so free.
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Ebba! Come in!
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Now don't dally, Your Majesty.
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You have a busy day.
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Morning, Ebba.
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- What are you doing up so early?
- I couldn't sleep.
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The movie Queen Christina was based
on the life of a real Swedish monarch...
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and lesbian.
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Hollywood changed the story, but
traces of the truth seemed to linger.
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There are rumors that Your Majesty
is planning a foreign marriage?
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They are baseless.
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But, Your Majesty,
you cannot die an old maid!
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I have no intention to, Chancellor.
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I shall die a bachelor!
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We hope that it will not
be necessary...
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to close all
the motion picture houses...
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because of some undesirable ones.
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But that we will have cleaner...
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and better motion pictures
so that they may all stay open.
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What happened, of course, in the 20s
and 30s when they got very raunchy...
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the Catholic Church and fundamentalist
Protestants came down hard.
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It was a lot of pulpit stuff...
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preaching about orgiastic aspects...
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of what was happening on the screen.
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The big change occurred when
the movie moguls got together.
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"Let's save Hollywood.
We must get an outsider."
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Preferably some politician...
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who was above suspicion.
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So they looked into the cabinet
of Warren G. Harding.
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At that time, there were a number
of unindicted members of his cabinet.
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They picked the Postmaster General,
Will Hays of Indiana...
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who looked not unlike Mickey Mouse.
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The code sets up
high standards of performance...
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for motion picture producers.
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It states the considerations which
good taste and community value...
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make necessary in this universal form
of entertainment.
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Will Hays would head the movies, first
voluntary effort at self-censorship.
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The early Hays code was a token gesture,
seldom taken seriously.
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But by 1934, the Catholic Church
had devised a scheme of its own.
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The Legion of Decency...
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not only rated movies as to content
but threatened massive boycotts.
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Hollywood promised
to play by the rules.
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The Hays code just
set up a series of rules...
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that were inviolable.
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Code director Joe Breen ran
Hollywood's censorship machinery...
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for over two decades.
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He was authorized to change words,
personalities and plots.
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A novel about
a sexually-confused alcoholic...
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became a movie about
an alcoholic with writer's block.
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A novel about gay bashing and murder...
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became a movie about
anti-semitism and murder.
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our American people are a homely...
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and wholesome crowd.
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Cockeyed philosophies of life,
ugly sex situations...
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cheap jokes and dirty dialogue
are not wanted.
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Decent people don't like
this sort of stuff...
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and it is our job to see to it
that they get none of it.
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- Have you ever modeled before?
- No, I haven't.
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I'm doing a study of
a young girl's head and shoulders.
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You won't object to removing
your blouse, will you?
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No, I guess not.
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You can get ready behind that screen.
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For all its efforts, the production code
didn't erase homosexuals from screens.
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It just made them harder to find.
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Now they had a new identity...
as cold-blooded villains.
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I'm ready now.
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I suppose you'll want these
pulled down, won't you?
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Yes.
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Why are you looking at me that way?
Won't I do?
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Yes, you'll do very well indeed.
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Do you like jewels, Lily?
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This is very old
and very beautiful.
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I'll show it to you.
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I don't think I'll pose tonight.
I think I'll go, if you don't mind.
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Please don't come any closer!
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I didn't expect to see you,
Mrs. Danvers.
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I noticed a window wasn't closed.
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I came to see if I could fasten it.
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Why did you say that?
I closed it before I left the room.
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You opened it yourself, didn't you?
245
00:18:03,357 --> 00:18:06,087
Rebecca is one of the movies
in which the word...
246
00:18:06,159 --> 00:18:09,128
homosexuality or lesbianism
is never uttered...
247
00:18:09,196 --> 00:18:13,189
but there's
this one scene that...
248
00:18:13,266 --> 00:18:16,099
really stands out
for a gay audience.
249
00:18:16,169 --> 00:18:19,002
That is, Rebecca is dead.
250
00:18:19,072 --> 00:18:21,438
she was the beautiful woman...
251
00:18:21,508 --> 00:18:24,170
who is mysteriously
not on the scene any longer.
252
00:18:24,244 --> 00:18:26,940
Her former housekeeper,
Mrs. Danvers...
253
00:18:27,014 --> 00:18:30,780
is obsessed with her,
even after her death.
254
00:18:30,851 --> 00:18:33,217
This is where
I keep all her clothes.
255
00:18:34,388 --> 00:18:36,982
You would like to see them,
wouldn't you?
256
00:18:48,035 --> 00:18:50,003
Feel this.
257
00:18:51,204 --> 00:18:53,570
It was a Christmas present
from Mr. DeWinter.
258
00:18:56,877 --> 00:19:00,313
He was always giving her
expensive gifts, the whole year round.
259
00:19:02,482 --> 00:19:05,246
I keep her underwear on this side.
260
00:19:07,554 --> 00:19:11,490
They were made specially for her
by the nuns in the convent of St. Clair.
261
00:19:14,094 --> 00:19:16,824
she opens the underwear drawer.
262
00:19:16,897 --> 00:19:18,831
It's so sensuous.
263
00:19:18,899 --> 00:19:22,494
Look. You can see
my hand through it.
264
00:19:26,406 --> 00:19:29,637
The guys who ran that code
weren't rocket scientists.
265
00:19:29,710 --> 00:19:31,473
They missed a lot of stuff.
266
00:19:31,545 --> 00:19:35,208
If a director was subtle enough
and clever enough, they got around it.
267
00:19:36,516 --> 00:19:39,178
What'll it cost
to be on the safe side?
268
00:19:39,252 --> 00:19:41,186
Okay, go ahead.
269
00:19:47,027 --> 00:19:49,791
- Gardenia.
- Quick, darling. In with him.
270
00:19:49,863 --> 00:19:53,799
We know Peter Lorre's gay in The Maltese
Falcon even before we see him.
271
00:19:53,867 --> 00:19:56,131
We're told there's a man outside...
272
00:19:56,203 --> 00:19:58,137
wearing perfume... gardenia.
273
00:19:58,205 --> 00:20:01,299
Then we also hear
some kind of funny...
274
00:20:01,374 --> 00:20:05,435
slightly oriental, feminine music.
275
00:20:05,512 --> 00:20:08,538
- You'll sit down, Mr. Cairo?
- Thank you, sir.
276
00:20:08,615 --> 00:20:12,278
The original novel didn't mince words
about Peter Lorre's character.
277
00:20:12,352 --> 00:20:14,547
It read, "This guy is queer."
278
00:20:14,621 --> 00:20:19,320
May I offer condolences for
your partner's unfortunate death?
279
00:20:19,392 --> 00:20:22,122
The movie could only hint...broadly.
280
00:20:22,195 --> 00:20:25,824
See, Mr. Spade,
I'm trying to recover...
281
00:20:25,899 --> 00:20:28,891
an ornament that,
shall we say, has been mislaid?
282
00:20:30,003 --> 00:20:31,937
I thought and hoped
you could assist me.
283
00:20:32,005 --> 00:20:37,033
That ornament is a statuette.
Black figure of a bird.
284
00:20:39,946 --> 00:20:44,212
Leave it to Alfred Hitchcock to create
not one but two gay villains...
285
00:20:44,284 --> 00:20:47,276
murderous lovers
based on real-life psychopaths...
286
00:20:47,354 --> 00:20:49,618
Leopold and Loeb.
287
00:20:49,689 --> 00:20:53,090
We knew that they were gay, yeah, sure.
288
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,425
Nobody said anything about it.
289
00:20:56,496 --> 00:20:59,590
This was 1947.
Let's not forget that.
290
00:20:59,666 --> 00:21:04,968
That was one of the points of the film.
291
00:21:05,038 --> 00:21:07,006
Brandon, how did you feel?
292
00:21:07,073 --> 00:21:09,405
- When?
- During it.
293
00:21:11,244 --> 00:21:13,769
I don't know really.
294
00:21:13,847 --> 00:21:16,748
I don't remember feeling
very much of anything...
295
00:21:18,485 --> 00:21:22,546
until his body went limp...
296
00:21:22,622 --> 00:21:24,715
and I knew it was over.
297
00:21:24,791 --> 00:21:26,258
And then?
298
00:21:26,326 --> 00:21:30,820
Then I felt
tremendously exhilarated.
299
00:21:32,032 --> 00:21:34,125
How did you feel?
300
00:21:34,201 --> 00:21:38,331
I don't think the censors
at that time realized...
301
00:21:38,405 --> 00:21:40,737
that this was about gay people.
302
00:21:40,807 --> 00:21:43,298
They didn't have a clue.
303
00:21:43,376 --> 00:21:44,968
That's how it got by.
304
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,946
sometimes the censors turned a blind eye
to lesbians on the screen...
305
00:21:51,017 --> 00:21:53,850
as long as they were kept
safely behind bars.
306
00:21:55,155 --> 00:21:57,419
- Hi, Anne!
- Hello, Harper.
307
00:21:57,490 --> 00:22:01,824
Since you went fancy working upstairs
for Benton, I kind of missed you.
308
00:22:01,895 --> 00:22:06,298
This is Marie Allen.
Mrs. Benton says to put her in laundry.
309
00:22:06,366 --> 00:22:08,391
Marie's gonna have a baby.
310
00:22:08,468 --> 00:22:12,666
A baby, huh?
Why, you're just a kid yourself.
311
00:22:14,474 --> 00:22:17,875
- So long, Marie.
- Good-bye, Anne. Thank you.
312
00:22:17,944 --> 00:22:21,107
Let's you and me
get acquainted, honey.
313
00:22:21,181 --> 00:22:24,514
You may be a number to the others,
but not to me.
314
00:22:25,719 --> 00:22:28,620
Sit down in this chair.
It's kind of roomy.
315
00:22:31,391 --> 00:22:33,552
There's supposed to be
a social message to all this.
316
00:22:33,627 --> 00:22:37,893
"Isn't it terrible to go to prison,
to lose your femininity?
317
00:22:37,964 --> 00:22:40,762
Isn't it terrible
for a woman to go hard?"
318
00:22:40,834 --> 00:22:45,703
What's your name?
How'd you hurt your hand?
319
00:22:46,473 --> 00:22:50,307
I'm a big girl, and this isn't
my first year away from home.
320
00:22:50,377 --> 00:22:52,675
The name is Marie Allen.
321
00:22:52,746 --> 00:22:56,147
If I said no to Kitty,
I'm sure not gonna say yes to you.
322
00:22:58,752 --> 00:23:01,653
she's a cute trick.
323
00:23:04,925 --> 00:23:07,291
In Young Man With a Horn,
we have one of my favorite...
324
00:23:07,360 --> 00:23:09,487
lesbian glamour symbols.
325
00:23:09,562 --> 00:23:13,293
Jo's interesting, isn't she?
so simple and uncomplicated.
326
00:23:13,366 --> 00:23:15,300
Must be wonderful
to wake up in the morning...
327
00:23:15,368 --> 00:23:17,928
and know which door
you're going to walk through.
328
00:23:18,004 --> 00:23:20,131
She's so terribly normal.
329
00:23:21,675 --> 00:23:24,838
She's a good singer too.
330
00:23:24,911 --> 00:23:27,471
I like Lauren Bacall because
she gets up in the morning...
331
00:23:27,547 --> 00:23:30,744
and she has no idea
what's going to happen to her next.
332
00:23:31,651 --> 00:23:33,676
I'm dying to see
the rest of your sketches.
333
00:23:33,753 --> 00:23:36,381
We'll have dinner out
and then go back to my place.
334
00:23:39,859 --> 00:23:42,259
How nice of you to come
to the party, Richard.
335
00:23:42,329 --> 00:23:43,921
This is my husband.
336
00:23:43,997 --> 00:23:48,434
Miss Carson, I told you about her,
the girl who paints so well.
337
00:23:48,501 --> 00:23:50,992
- How do you do?
- How do you do?
338
00:23:53,273 --> 00:23:55,332
- See you at 9:00 then, Amy.
- Fine.
339
00:23:55,408 --> 00:23:58,673
It's been a wonderful party.
340
00:23:58,745 --> 00:24:01,111
Those movies were a warning to ladies
to just watch it...
341
00:24:01,181 --> 00:24:05,550
and get back to the kitchen
where God meant them to be.
342
00:24:05,618 --> 00:24:10,317
What a swell combination we were.
You said you wanted experiences, Amy.
343
00:24:10,390 --> 00:24:13,291
Well, here's one for you.
I'm leaving you.
344
00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:15,351
I'd like to kill you.
345
00:24:16,429 --> 00:24:18,397
You almost did.
346
00:24:19,466 --> 00:24:21,661
You're a sick girl, Amy.
347
00:24:21,735 --> 00:24:24,363
You'd better see a doctor.
348
00:24:24,437 --> 00:24:27,634
I look back on the '50s now
and think that it was halcyon.
349
00:24:27,707 --> 00:24:31,108
People were still being educated.
350
00:24:31,177 --> 00:24:35,341
There wasn't a race war on.
The drug thing wasn't...
351
00:24:35,415 --> 00:24:38,179
It seems like
a kind of paradise now.
352
00:24:38,251 --> 00:24:41,186
But at the time
we were living through it...
353
00:24:41,254 --> 00:24:43,848
we thought that
we were in a decade...
354
00:24:43,923 --> 00:24:48,485
of such towering
dullness and stupidity.
355
00:24:48,495 --> 00:24:51,186
I want to be proud of him.
356
00:24:51,264 --> 00:24:53,289
That's why I had him
in the first place.
357
00:24:54,567 --> 00:24:57,695
But he makes it so difficult for me.
358
00:24:57,771 --> 00:25:00,569
My associates ask what he wants to be,
and I have to tell them that...
359
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,972
he hasn't made up his mind...
360
00:25:03,043 --> 00:25:08,345
because I just won't tell them
he wants to be a folksinger.
361
00:25:08,415 --> 00:25:11,009
The grief
362
00:25:11,084 --> 00:25:16,021
of love endures
363
00:25:16,089 --> 00:25:19,081
In '50s America masculinity ruled.
364
00:25:19,159 --> 00:25:22,151
seeming gay was almost
as bad as being gay...
365
00:25:22,228 --> 00:25:24,856
so a man had to watch
his every step.
366
00:25:24,931 --> 00:25:29,197
Look, Tom, the way you walk...
I'm just trying to help you!
367
00:25:29,269 --> 00:25:31,362
Nobody gave a damn about how
I walked till last week!
368
00:25:31,438 --> 00:25:33,235
Forget it!
369
00:25:35,809 --> 00:25:37,970
- Al?
- Yeah?
370
00:25:38,044 --> 00:25:40,774
Tea and sympathy
is definitely about being homosexual.
371
00:25:40,847 --> 00:25:44,510
I'm sorry. Tell me how I walk.
372
00:25:44,584 --> 00:25:47,985
It's a film that's
about curing homosexuality...
373
00:25:48,054 --> 00:25:50,488
and the signs of homosexuality
are effeminacy.
374
00:25:50,557 --> 00:25:53,424
Well, then, you walk,
and let me watch you.
375
00:25:53,493 --> 00:25:56,018
- I never noticed how you walk.
- okay.
376
00:26:09,342 --> 00:26:11,435
Do it again.
377
00:26:11,511 --> 00:26:14,639
- If you tell the guys about this...
- You think I would?
378
00:26:17,750 --> 00:26:20,116
We know the Sal Mimeo
character is gay...
379
00:26:20,186 --> 00:26:22,780
party because he has a picture
of Alan Ladd in his locker...
380
00:26:24,090 --> 00:26:29,027
but also from his adoration
of the James Dean character.
381
00:26:41,708 --> 00:26:44,370
You want to come home with me?
There's nobody home at my house.
382
00:26:44,444 --> 00:26:47,174
Heck, I'm not tired. Are you?
383
00:26:47,247 --> 00:26:49,738
See, I don't have
too many people I can talk to.
384
00:26:49,816 --> 00:26:51,613
Who has?
385
00:26:51,684 --> 00:26:56,280
People talk about whether
that was a homosexual relationship.
386
00:26:56,356 --> 00:26:59,052
The intention wasn't that.
387
00:26:59,125 --> 00:27:03,562
But any film is at the same time...
388
00:27:03,630 --> 00:27:08,863
an expression of a writer...
389
00:27:08,935 --> 00:27:14,464
and it's an offering to an audience
to create their own film.
390
00:27:14,541 --> 00:27:16,634
Are you cold?
391
00:27:16,709 --> 00:27:21,078
Rebel was about
tenderness, intimacy.
392
00:27:21,147 --> 00:27:25,379
It was an attempt to widen
the permission to love...
393
00:27:25,451 --> 00:27:28,420
when men were supposed
to be one way with each other.
394
00:27:28,488 --> 00:27:31,480
- Can I keep it?
- Well, what do you think?
395
00:27:31,558 --> 00:27:32,991
Here.
396
00:27:35,428 --> 00:27:38,522
I think if I were writing
that script again today...
397
00:27:38,598 --> 00:27:41,863
that I would be much more
specific about Plato.
398
00:27:41,935 --> 00:27:46,463
I would let him be
an outcast because...
399
00:27:46,539 --> 00:27:49,440
the gang thought
he was a faggot...
400
00:27:50,843 --> 00:27:55,576
and let his isolation
come from that opinion.
401
00:27:56,849 --> 00:27:58,817
- What do you guys want?
- You know what we want!
402
00:27:58,885 --> 00:28:01,012
- We want your friend!
- Yeah, we got eyes for him.
403
00:28:01,087 --> 00:28:03,988
The real rebel seems to me
the Sal Mineo character.
404
00:28:04,057 --> 00:28:06,025
He's got something
to be rebellious about...
405
00:28:06,092 --> 00:28:08,424
namely, being gay
in a homophobic society.
406
00:28:08,494 --> 00:28:10,428
He, of course, has to be killed.
407
00:28:10,496 --> 00:28:13,363
- Turn out the lights!
- Jim!
408
00:28:13,433 --> 00:28:17,767
That's what happens to real rebels
in our society.
409
00:28:22,375 --> 00:28:27,244
You got very good at
projecting subtext...
410
00:28:27,313 --> 00:28:31,147
without saying a word about it.
411
00:28:31,217 --> 00:28:34,983
The best example I lived through
was writing Ben-Hur.
412
00:28:39,626 --> 00:28:43,153
Ben-Hur and Messala,
one Jewish, one Roman...
413
00:28:43,229 --> 00:28:45,891
had known each other from youth.
414
00:28:45,965 --> 00:28:49,264
They disagree over politics and hate
each other for the next three hours.
415
00:28:49,335 --> 00:28:52,998
That isn�t much to put
a whole three-hour movie on...
416
00:28:53,072 --> 00:28:56,667
even something
as gorgeously junky as Ben-Hur.
417
00:28:59,979 --> 00:29:02,812
The director of the movie,
William Wyler, said "What do you do?"
418
00:29:02,882 --> 00:29:05,942
I said, "Let me try something."
419
00:29:06,019 --> 00:29:09,648
Let's say these two guys were 15, 16
when they last saw each other.
420
00:29:09,722 --> 00:29:12,054
They had been lovers,
and they're meeting again...
421
00:29:12,125 --> 00:29:14,252
and the Roman wants to start it up.
422
00:29:14,327 --> 00:29:16,852
Messala, played by Stephen Boyd,
wants to start it up again...
423
00:29:16,929 --> 00:29:18,863
with Ben-Hur,
played by Charlton Heston.
424
00:29:18,931 --> 00:29:21,729
Heaven knows why, but he does.
Anyway, he's Roman.
425
00:29:21,801 --> 00:29:26,101
so Willie stared at me,
face gray.
426
00:29:27,273 --> 00:29:29,798
I said' "Well'
I'll never use the word.
427
00:29:29,876 --> 00:29:32,208
There will be nothing overt.
428
00:29:32,278 --> 00:29:37,272
But it'll be perfectly clear
that Messala is in love with Ben-Hur...
429
00:29:39,385 --> 00:29:42,582
Willie said, Gore, this is Ben-Hur.
430
00:29:42,655 --> 00:29:47,183
A Tale of the Christ, I think
is the subtitle, he said vaguely.
431
00:29:49,295 --> 00:29:52,594
Willie finally said, "Well, it's
certainly better than what we've got.
432
00:29:52,665 --> 00:29:53,927
We'll try it...
433
00:29:58,571 --> 00:30:00,937
After all these years.
434
00:30:02,008 --> 00:30:03,839
Still close.
435
00:30:03,910 --> 00:30:06,276
In every way.
436
00:30:06,346 --> 00:30:11,045
He said, "You talked to anybody
about this?" And I said' "No."
437
00:30:11,117 --> 00:30:14,814
He said, "You talk to Boyd..."
Messala.
438
00:30:14,887 --> 00:30:19,051
"Don't say anything to Heston.
439
00:30:19,125 --> 00:30:22,219
Chuck will fall apart.
I'll take care of him."
440
00:30:22,295 --> 00:30:26,493
So Heston thinks he's doing
Francis X. Bushman in a silent version.
441
00:30:26,566 --> 00:30:30,764
His head is constantly on high
like this and like this.
442
00:30:30,837 --> 00:30:33,362
Stephen Boyd is
acting it to pieces.
443
00:30:33,439 --> 00:30:36,340
There are looks that he gives him
that are just so clear.
444
00:30:38,277 --> 00:30:40,677
I said I'd come back.
445
00:30:41,647 --> 00:30:44,081
I never thought you would.
446
00:30:45,518 --> 00:30:47,850
I'm so glad.
447
00:30:55,528 --> 00:30:57,496
- Look at you.
- Look at you.
448
00:30:58,798 --> 00:31:01,494
You've come back a tribune.
449
00:31:01,567 --> 00:31:04,092
When I heard that news,
I drank a toast to you.
450
00:31:06,072 --> 00:31:08,097
We'll drink another now.
451
00:31:16,482 --> 00:31:22,145
Once I had a secret love
452
00:31:24,357 --> 00:31:26,655
That lived within
453
00:31:26,726 --> 00:31:30,526
The heart of me
454
00:31:31,597 --> 00:31:35,363
Hollywood had learned to write
movies between the lines.
455
00:31:35,435 --> 00:31:38,632
some members of the audience
had learned to watch them that way.
456
00:31:38,704 --> 00:31:40,638
Gosh a-mighty!
457
00:31:40,706 --> 00:31:43,436
You're the prettiest thing
I ever seen.
458
00:31:45,044 --> 00:31:47,979
Never knowed a woman
could look like that.
459
00:31:48,047 --> 00:31:52,711
- How do you hold that dress up there?
- Please!
460
00:31:52,785 --> 00:31:56,812
It's amazing how
if you're a gay audience...
461
00:31:56,889 --> 00:31:58,948
and you're accustomed
to crumbs...
462
00:31:59,025 --> 00:32:02,290
how you will watch an entire movie
just to see somebody wear an outfit...
463
00:32:02,361 --> 00:32:04,989
that you think means
that they're a homosexual.
464
00:32:06,098 --> 00:32:08,157
The whole movie can be a dud...
465
00:32:08,234 --> 00:32:10,168
but you're just sitting there...
466
00:32:10,236 --> 00:32:14,400
waiting for Joan Crawford
to put on her black cowboy shirt again.
467
00:32:16,843 --> 00:32:18,970
I'm going to kill you.
468
00:32:20,046 --> 00:32:22,105
I know...
469
00:32:22,181 --> 00:32:24,877
if I don't kill you first.
470
00:32:26,752 --> 00:32:31,746
Gay audiences were desperate
to find something.
471
00:32:31,824 --> 00:32:36,318
I think all minority audiences
watch movies with hope.
472
00:32:36,395 --> 00:32:38,989
They hope they will see
what they want to see.
473
00:32:40,199 --> 00:32:42,497
That's why nobody
really sees the same movie.
474
00:32:42,568 --> 00:32:45,059
Let's give 'em a hand over here.
475
00:32:45,137 --> 00:32:47,935
That's a good-looking gun you were
about to use back there. Can I see it?
476
00:32:54,447 --> 00:32:56,642
Maybe you'd like to see mine.
477
00:32:59,819 --> 00:33:02,049
Nice. Awful nice.
478
00:33:02,121 --> 00:33:05,852
Monty Clift and John Ireland
knew what they were doing.
479
00:33:05,925 --> 00:33:09,452
I think that's why
the scene is funny...
480
00:33:09,529 --> 00:33:12,726
'cause of their delight
in playing the sexuality of the gun.
481
00:33:12,798 --> 00:33:15,824
There are only two things
more beautiful than a good gun.
482
00:33:15,902 --> 00:33:18,803
A Swiss watch
or a woman from anywhere.
483
00:33:18,871 --> 00:33:20,862
You ever had a good Swiss watch?
484
00:33:24,610 --> 00:33:26,134
Go ahead. Try it.
485
00:33:29,048 --> 00:33:31,141
Hey, that's very good.
486
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,847
Hey, that's good too.
487
00:33:36,923 --> 00:33:38,686
Go on. Keep it going.
488
00:33:39,692 --> 00:33:45,153
Most expressions of homosexuality
in most of movies are indirect.
489
00:33:45,231 --> 00:33:48,029
What's interesting is that
that, of course...
490
00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:50,762
is what it what like to express
homosexuality in life.
491
00:33:50,836 --> 00:33:53,669
That we could only express
ourselves indirectly...
492
00:33:53,739 --> 00:33:57,300
just as people on the screen could
only express themselves indirectly.
493
00:33:57,376 --> 00:34:00,277
There's a sense in which
the characters are in the closet...
494
00:34:00,346 --> 00:34:02,837
the movie's in the closet,
and we're in the closet.
495
00:34:02,915 --> 00:34:06,976
Now I shout it
496
00:34:07,053 --> 00:34:12,514
From the highest hills
497
00:34:13,759 --> 00:34:21,188
Even told the golden daffodils
498
00:34:23,402 --> 00:34:25,962
At last
499
00:34:26,038 --> 00:34:27,835
My heart's
500
00:34:27,907 --> 00:34:31,308
An open door
501
00:34:35,615 --> 00:34:38,778
And my secret love's
502
00:34:38,851 --> 00:34:41,376
No secret
503
00:34:41,454 --> 00:34:46,289
Anymore
504
00:34:46,359 --> 00:34:49,089
one, two, three, four
505
00:34:58,671 --> 00:35:01,731
There were films
even in the '50s that got away...
506
00:35:01,807 --> 00:35:05,675
with an amazing amount
of at least gay subtext.
507
00:35:05,745 --> 00:35:07,337
You can't keep...
508
00:35:07,413 --> 00:35:11,179
gay life or behavior out of the movies.
509
00:35:11,250 --> 00:35:13,445
It's like keeping it out of life
in general.
510
00:35:13,519 --> 00:35:19,014
It pops up often in somewhat hidden
or somewhat coded ways.
511
00:35:20,893 --> 00:35:23,521
In the film
of Gentlemen Prefer Blondes...
512
00:35:23,596 --> 00:35:28,898
there's a gym full of bodybuilders
who have no interest in Jane Russell.
513
00:35:28,968 --> 00:35:32,267
He don't have to be Hercules
Don't anyone know about birds and bees
514
00:35:32,338 --> 00:35:34,806
Ain't there anyone here for love
515
00:35:35,808 --> 00:35:39,972
sweet love
516
00:35:40,046 --> 00:35:44,073
Ain't there anyone
517
00:35:44,150 --> 00:35:47,017
Here for
518
00:35:47,086 --> 00:35:48,917
Love
519
00:35:54,393 --> 00:35:57,226
Doubles? Anyone?
520
00:36:02,468 --> 00:36:04,163
Court's free!
521
00:36:10,543 --> 00:36:12,534
Two out of three?
522
00:36:12,611 --> 00:36:14,044
Anyone?
523
00:36:19,985 --> 00:36:21,919
Doesn't anyone want to play?
524
00:36:24,123 --> 00:36:26,523
In the '50s and '60s,
especially in sex comedies...
525
00:36:26,592 --> 00:36:28,992
there were often characters
who could be read as gay...
526
00:36:29,061 --> 00:36:31,996
whether they were
the Tony Randall roles...
527
00:36:32,064 --> 00:36:35,056
or the boss of
the decorating establishment.
528
00:36:36,202 --> 00:36:37,635
And here.
529
00:36:39,138 --> 00:36:41,936
This isn't bad either.
What color�s that floor?
530
00:36:42,007 --> 00:36:43,634
Lilac.
531
00:36:43,709 --> 00:36:48,305
Lilac? Leonard, who has
a lilac floor in their kitchen?
532
00:36:48,380 --> 00:36:51,144
I have.
533
00:36:51,217 --> 00:36:57,053
Oh, well, Leonard, everyone
isn't as artistic as you are.
534
00:36:59,558 --> 00:37:03,790
We have to sell this wax to
average, ordinary, everyday people.
535
00:37:04,764 --> 00:37:06,129
Them!
536
00:37:06,198 --> 00:37:08,928
In Hollywood for years and years...
537
00:37:09,001 --> 00:37:11,936
there was what was called the DF movie.
538
00:37:12,004 --> 00:37:14,370
All the Doris Day movies
were DF movies.
539
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:19,571
It was delayed fuck because they
couldn't sleep together until married.
540
00:37:19,645 --> 00:37:22,136
No sex before marriage.
541
00:37:22,214 --> 00:37:25,240
That was the law of Hollywood.
542
00:37:25,317 --> 00:37:30,653
What a marvelous-looking man.
I wonder if he's single.
543
00:37:32,792 --> 00:37:35,454
I don't know how long
I can get away with this act...
544
00:37:35,528 --> 00:37:37,723
but she's sure worth a try.
545
00:37:37,797 --> 00:37:42,097
Rock had a screening room in his house.
546
00:37:42,168 --> 00:37:46,195
He liked to assemble his houseguests
and show his old movies.
547
00:37:46,272 --> 00:37:50,265
Most of the guys I knew liked
to see the old Doris Day films.
548
00:37:50,342 --> 00:37:54,244
one of the reasons we laughed at them...
549
00:37:54,313 --> 00:37:56,873
was that there was
a real gay in-joke occurring...
550
00:37:56,949 --> 00:37:59,076
in almost all
of those light comedies...
551
00:37:59,151 --> 00:38:02,518
because at some point or another
the character Rock Hudson played...
552
00:38:02,588 --> 00:38:06,319
posed as gay in order
to get a woman into bed.
553
00:38:06,392 --> 00:38:08,326
Tell me about your job.
554
00:38:08,394 --> 00:38:13,593
It must be very excitin' workin' with
all them colors and fabrics and all.
555
00:38:20,573 --> 00:38:23,133
It was tremendously ironic.
556
00:38:23,209 --> 00:38:27,373
Here was a gay man
impersonating a straight man...
557
00:38:27,446 --> 00:38:29,676
impersonating a gay man.
558
00:38:37,056 --> 00:38:41,356
Ain't these tasty?
Wonder if I could get the recipe?
559
00:38:42,428 --> 00:38:46,091
sure would like to surprise my ma
when I go back home.
560
00:38:55,274 --> 00:38:57,242
We're all half man, half woman.
561
00:38:57,309 --> 00:39:00,574
We come from those two cells,
you know?
562
00:39:00,646 --> 00:39:03,240
so when I put together Josephine
in some Like It Hot...
563
00:39:03,315 --> 00:39:05,340
I thought of Grace Kelly...
564
00:39:05,417 --> 00:39:07,214
thought of my mother...
565
00:39:07,286 --> 00:39:10,016
and a little bit of Eve Arden.
566
00:39:10,089 --> 00:39:13,456
- My name is Josephine.
- I'm Daphne.
567
00:39:14,660 --> 00:39:18,596
I thought my top lip was a little thin'
so every time I stopped talking I'd...
568
00:39:23,903 --> 00:39:26,895
- Men!
- You don't have to worry about that.
569
00:39:26,972 --> 00:39:29,532
We wouldn't be caught dead with men.
570
00:39:29,608 --> 00:39:32,702
Rough, hairy beasts with eight hands!
571
00:39:32,778 --> 00:39:35,838
That kind of sexuality of ours
which overlaps...
572
00:39:35,915 --> 00:39:38,543
some like it hard.
some like it soft.
573
00:39:38,617 --> 00:39:43,748
That kind of waving in there
is in that movie, just delicately.
574
00:39:44,523 --> 00:39:47,788
Osgood, I'm gonna level with ya.
We can't get married at all!
575
00:39:47,860 --> 00:39:49,350
Why not?
576
00:39:49,428 --> 00:39:52,989
Well, in the first place,
I'm not a natural blond.
577
00:39:53,065 --> 00:39:55,329
Doesn't matter.
578
00:39:55,401 --> 00:39:57,699
I smoke. I smoke all the time.
579
00:39:57,770 --> 00:39:59,362
I don't care.
580
00:39:59,438 --> 00:40:03,636
I have a terrible past. For three years
I've lived with a saxophone player.
581
00:40:03,709 --> 00:40:05,973
I forgive you.
582
00:40:07,446 --> 00:40:09,937
I can never have children.
583
00:40:10,015 --> 00:40:11,983
We can adopt some.
584
00:40:12,051 --> 00:40:14,542
You don't understand, Osgood.
585
00:40:15,521 --> 00:40:17,455
I'm a man!
586
00:40:17,523 --> 00:40:20,048
Well, nobody's perfect.
587
00:40:25,497 --> 00:40:29,627
When the subject turned serious
and actual sex was suggested...
588
00:40:29,702 --> 00:40:33,160
out came the blue pencil,
the scissors and the scene.
589
00:40:33,238 --> 00:40:37,038
"Antoninus, Sicilian, age 26...
590
00:40:38,677 --> 00:40:41,145
singer of songs."
591
00:40:41,213 --> 00:40:44,376
For whom did you practice
this wondrous talent?
592
00:40:44,450 --> 00:40:48,352
For the children of my master,
whom I also taught the classics.
593
00:40:48,420 --> 00:40:50,820
Classics, indeed.
594
00:40:50,889 --> 00:40:55,826
What position have we, I wonder,
for a boy of such varied gifts?
595
00:40:57,296 --> 00:40:59,321
You shall be my body servant.
Instruct him.
596
00:40:59,398 --> 00:41:00,831
All of you, come with me.
597
00:41:00,899 --> 00:41:03,732
The first time you see Antoninus
is there in the lineup...
598
00:41:03,802 --> 00:41:06,362
when he says,
"I want him for my body servant."
599
00:41:06,438 --> 00:41:09,305
That's the only indication.
Body servant. What does that mean?
600
00:41:11,010 --> 00:41:14,810
He says body servant. The next thing you
know we're in the tub. I'm washing him.
601
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,543
In here with it.
602
00:41:18,617 --> 00:41:21,711
There's some chat between us,
and then finally he says to me...
603
00:41:21,787 --> 00:41:24,085
''Antoninus, do you like snails?"
604
00:41:24,156 --> 00:41:26,886
I said, "Yeah, I do."
605
00:41:26,959 --> 00:41:29,553
"What about oysters?"
I said, "Well, I don't think so."
606
00:41:29,628 --> 00:41:32,495
Do you consider the eating
of oysters to be moral...
607
00:41:32,564 --> 00:41:35,465
and the eating of snails
to be immoral?
608
00:41:37,002 --> 00:41:39,232
No, Master.
609
00:41:39,304 --> 00:41:41,238
of course not.
610
00:41:43,942 --> 00:41:47,070
It is all a matter of taste,
isn't it?
611
00:41:47,146 --> 00:41:49,637
Yes, Master.
612
00:41:49,715 --> 00:41:52,878
And taste is not
the same as appetite...
613
00:41:52,951 --> 00:41:56,114
and, therefore,
not a question of morals, is it?
614
00:41:58,023 --> 00:42:01,015
You can see even
in that long shot I've...
615
00:42:01,093 --> 00:42:03,254
I'm kind of getting an idea
what he's trying to say to me.
616
00:42:03,328 --> 00:42:04,920
I said, "Yes, Master."
617
00:42:04,997 --> 00:42:08,865
He says, "Well,
I like both oysters and snails."
618
00:42:10,102 --> 00:42:12,593
He realizes that
he's going to be asked...
619
00:42:12,671 --> 00:42:15,606
to do something
he's not prepared to do.
620
00:42:15,674 --> 00:42:18,609
I liked Antoninus
for that, you know?
621
00:42:18,677 --> 00:42:21,339
Take me out to dinner first.
Give me a little good time.
622
00:42:21,413 --> 00:42:24,314
Don't throw me in the tub
and drop the soap.
623
00:42:24,383 --> 00:42:30,253
My taste includes
both snails and oysters.
624
00:42:30,322 --> 00:42:32,813
They cut that scene out.
625
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,757
I have never seen such a time
in my life with censorship.
626
00:42:37,830 --> 00:42:41,891
You started drinkin' with your friend
skipper's death. That's the truth.
627
00:42:43,435 --> 00:42:46,893
They cut and cut Cat on a Hot Tin Roof.
628
00:42:46,972 --> 00:42:51,841
There was no way Brick could have had
any kind of sexual desire for his buddy.
629
00:42:51,910 --> 00:42:54,344
What are you suggesting?
630
00:42:54,413 --> 00:42:57,974
- Nothin' but...
- But what? Say what's on your mind.
631
00:42:58,050 --> 00:43:00,348
say it!
632
00:43:00,419 --> 00:43:02,683
- Why are you so excited?
- Go ahead! say it!
633
00:43:02,754 --> 00:43:05,348
- What are you shouting like that for?
- skipper and I were friends.
634
00:43:05,424 --> 00:43:07,915
- Can you understand that?
- Gooper and Mae said that skipper was...
635
00:43:07,993 --> 00:43:11,087
skipper is the only thing
I got left to believe in!
636
00:43:11,163 --> 00:43:13,461
- You are dragging it through the gutter!
- Now, just a minute...
637
00:43:13,532 --> 00:43:16,092
You are making it
shameful and filthy, you...
638
00:43:17,369 --> 00:43:21,567
It was clear to anybody on the
right wavelength what you were doing.
639
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,870
You just couldn't use the word.
640
00:43:23,942 --> 00:43:28,174
I met this head-on in a movie
called suddenly, Last summer...
641
00:43:28,247 --> 00:43:30,306
from a Tennessee Williams play.
642
00:43:30,382 --> 00:43:32,748
You know why I was doing it.
643
00:43:32,818 --> 00:43:36,151
I told you.
I was procuring for him.
644
00:43:38,257 --> 00:43:40,487
Sebastian was lonely, Doctor.
645
00:43:40,559 --> 00:43:42,493
The Legion of Decency...
646
00:43:42,561 --> 00:43:46,861
headed by this
shark-like Jesuit priest...
647
00:43:46,932 --> 00:43:48,866
I must have had
five meetings with him.
648
00:43:48,934 --> 00:43:51,596
"You can't say this.
You can't say that."
649
00:43:51,670 --> 00:43:54,730
By the time we started to cut it,
it was making no sense at all.
650
00:43:54,806 --> 00:43:59,743
Sebastian only needed you
while you were still useful.
651
00:43:59,811 --> 00:44:03,747
- Useful?
- I mean, young, able to attract.
652
00:44:03,815 --> 00:44:05,942
she's babbling again,
babbling and lying.
653
00:44:06,018 --> 00:44:07,952
He left her home
because she had lost her...
654
00:44:08,020 --> 00:44:10,989
- Because you stole him!
- Lost her attraction.
655
00:44:11,056 --> 00:44:14,082
What would attraction have
to do with a son and a mother?
656
00:44:14,159 --> 00:44:16,150
- I'll tell you...
- Is there no way to stop these lies?
657
00:44:16,228 --> 00:44:18,992
Yes! Have my brain cut!
658
00:44:19,064 --> 00:44:23,364
It was like working under the Kremlin,
like writing for Pravda.
659
00:44:23,435 --> 00:44:26,927
You did learn how to write between the
lines or photograph between the lines.
660
00:44:27,005 --> 00:44:31,066
You do it with a look, or
there'd be a take on Hepburn's face...
661
00:44:31,143 --> 00:44:34,169
as Elizabeth Taylor
would be telling her...
662
00:44:34,246 --> 00:44:36,612
getting closer and
closer to the truth...
663
00:44:36,682 --> 00:44:38,741
which the Legion of Decency
wouldn't dare let us say.
664
00:44:38,817 --> 00:44:40,944
- We were decoys.
- Decoys?
665
00:44:41,019 --> 00:44:44,284
For Sebastian.
He used us as bait.
666
00:44:44,356 --> 00:44:49,623
When she was no longer able to lure the
better fish into the net, he let her go.
667
00:44:49,695 --> 00:44:52,391
Bait for what?
What were the better fish?
668
00:44:52,464 --> 00:44:54,432
We procured for him.
669
00:44:54,499 --> 00:44:58,128
Did Sebastian like boys or not?
670
00:44:58,203 --> 00:45:01,764
Well, the fact that he's eaten up
at the end by...
671
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,298
Admittedly, Tennessee occasionally went
over the top with his dramatic effects.
672
00:45:05,377 --> 00:45:10,542
When he tried to escape
from those streets...
673
00:45:11,483 --> 00:45:15,112
down those little side streets
between the buildings...
674
00:45:16,121 --> 00:45:18,749
they came from everywhere...
675
00:45:18,824 --> 00:45:21,486
so the only way was up.
676
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,927
Sebastian Venable was
the perfect homosexual for his times...
677
00:45:24,997 --> 00:45:27,488
one without a face or a voice.
678
00:45:27,566 --> 00:45:31,468
since he lives as a monster,
he must die as one...
679
00:45:31,536 --> 00:45:33,663
in a scene reminiscent
of an early horror classic.
680
00:45:39,978 --> 00:45:42,037
I don't know how he still ran.
He never ran.
681
00:45:42,114 --> 00:45:44,639
But he ran and he ran
and he ran!
682
00:45:48,186 --> 00:45:50,120
He never reached the end!
683
00:45:50,188 --> 00:45:51,917
Never!
684
00:45:53,258 --> 00:45:56,352
They overtook him.
685
00:45:57,262 --> 00:45:59,730
He screamed just once.
686
00:45:59,798 --> 00:46:02,323
I... I... Then I... Then I...
687
00:46:08,307 --> 00:46:11,504
Help!
688
00:46:11,576 --> 00:46:13,806
Help!
689
00:46:13,879 --> 00:46:18,009
So Suddenly, Last summer opens, and the
New York Times is going to destroy...
690
00:46:18,083 --> 00:46:20,984
this degenerate film,
the work of degenerates.
691
00:46:21,053 --> 00:46:23,783
so you've got a review from
Bosley Crowther that said...
692
00:46:23,855 --> 00:46:29,725
"If you like incest, rape,
sodomy, cannibalism, degeneracy...
693
00:46:29,795 --> 00:46:33,322
this is the movie for you,
this sickening picture."
694
00:46:33,398 --> 00:46:36,890
Everybody in the country went to see it.
That review made the movie.
695
00:46:40,405 --> 00:46:42,339
A taut...
696
00:46:42,407 --> 00:46:44,671
tense drama of the most...
697
00:46:44,743 --> 00:46:46,973
of the most untalked-about subject.
698
00:46:50,115 --> 00:46:52,083
While Hollywood
remained reticent...
699
00:46:52,150 --> 00:46:54,812
British films began
to tackle homosexuality head-on...
700
00:46:56,922 --> 00:47:01,325
with a major star like Dirk Bogarde
as the screen's first gay hero.
701
00:47:01,393 --> 00:47:04,191
I want to know the truth.
702
00:47:04,262 --> 00:47:06,890
I want to know why he hanged himself.
703
00:47:06,965 --> 00:47:08,694
He was being blackmailed.
704
00:47:08,767 --> 00:47:11,895
- That's why he stole?
- Yes.
705
00:47:11,970 --> 00:47:15,337
someone found out he was a homosexual
and blackmailed him?
706
00:47:18,176 --> 00:47:20,110
That's it.
707
00:47:23,081 --> 00:47:26,608
It takes two to make
a reason for blackmail.
708
00:47:26,685 --> 00:47:30,451
Were you the other man?
Were you?
709
00:47:30,522 --> 00:47:32,547
There is a scene in the film in which...
710
00:47:32,624 --> 00:47:35,491
he is quite explicit about...
711
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,324
wanting to have sex
with another man.
712
00:47:38,397 --> 00:47:42,197
That's an extraordinary statement
for a star of that magnitude...
713
00:47:42,267 --> 00:47:46,226
in a popular entertainment movie
to make in 1961.
714
00:47:46,304 --> 00:47:49,569
All right, you want to know.
I shall tell you.
715
00:47:49,641 --> 00:47:51,575
You won't be content
until you know, will you?
716
00:47:51,643 --> 00:47:53,941
Till you've ripped it out of me!
717
00:47:54,012 --> 00:47:57,573
I stopped seeing him
because I wanted him.
718
00:47:57,649 --> 00:47:59,640
Do you understand?
Because I wanted him!
719
00:48:01,887 --> 00:48:06,290
Back in Hollywood, the production code
had gradually been whittled away.
720
00:48:06,358 --> 00:48:11,523
Moviemakers, fed up with restrictions,
set out to smash the last taboo.
721
00:48:30,348 --> 00:48:34,717
Homosexuality was finally
being talked about on the screen...
722
00:48:34,786 --> 00:48:37,846
but only as something
that nice people didn�t talk about.
723
00:48:37,923 --> 00:48:40,255
We've seen things too.
724
00:48:40,325 --> 00:48:43,419
- What things?
- Bad things. I can't tell you.
725
00:48:43,495 --> 00:48:46,987
You're annoying me very much.
If you have anything to say, say it.
726
00:48:47,065 --> 00:48:49,761
I mean, I can't say it out loud.
I've got to whisper it.
727
00:48:49,835 --> 00:48:53,669
- Why must you whisper it?
- I don't know. I've just got to.
728
00:48:53,738 --> 00:48:56,036
At the time we made the picture...
729
00:48:56,107 --> 00:49:00,009
there were not real discussions
about homosexuality.
730
00:49:00,078 --> 00:49:02,012
Do you know what you're saying?
731
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:06,244
It was about a child, s accusations.
It could have been about anything.
732
00:49:06,318 --> 00:49:09,776
stop the car, John!
stop the car, John!
733
00:49:10,789 --> 00:49:12,814
so none of us
were really aware.
734
00:49:12,891 --> 00:49:14,916
We might have been the forerunners,
but we weren't really...
735
00:49:14,993 --> 00:49:16,927
because we didn't do
the picture right.
736
00:49:18,663 --> 00:49:20,927
We were in the mind-set...
737
00:49:20,999 --> 00:49:25,299
of not understanding...
738
00:49:25,370 --> 00:49:27,804
what we were basically doing.
739
00:49:27,873 --> 00:49:30,603
You've got to know!
I've got to tell you!
740
00:49:30,675 --> 00:49:33,508
I can't keep it
to myself any longer.
741
00:49:33,578 --> 00:49:35,546
I'm guilty!
742
00:49:35,614 --> 00:49:38,549
You're guilty of nothing!
743
00:49:38,617 --> 00:49:43,213
These days there would be a tremendous
outcry, as well there should be.
744
00:49:43,288 --> 00:49:47,486
Why would Martha break down and say,
"What's wrong with me?
745
00:49:47,559 --> 00:49:50,687
I'm so polluted.
I've ruined you."
746
00:49:50,762 --> 00:49:52,696
she would fight.
747
00:49:52,764 --> 00:49:57,030
she would fight for
her budding preference.
748
00:49:57,102 --> 00:50:01,061
When you look at it,
to have Martha play that scene...
749
00:50:01,139 --> 00:50:04,336
and no one questioned
what that meant...
750
00:50:04,409 --> 00:50:08,971
or what the alternatives could
have been underneath the dialogue...
751
00:50:09,047 --> 00:50:11,914
It's mind boggling.
752
00:50:11,983 --> 00:50:13,382
We were unaware.
753
00:50:13,451 --> 00:50:18,946
Don't you see?
I can't stand to have you touch me.
754
00:50:19,024 --> 00:50:22,551
I can't stand
to have you look at me.
755
00:50:22,627 --> 00:50:25,357
It's all my fault!
756
00:50:25,430 --> 00:50:29,196
I've ruined your life,
and I've ruined my own.
757
00:50:29,267 --> 00:50:31,861
I swear I didn't know it!
758
00:50:31,937 --> 00:50:33,996
I didn't mean it!
759
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:40,434
oh, I feel so damn sick and dirty!
I can't stand it anymore!
760
00:50:42,981 --> 00:50:45,506
The profundity of this subject...
761
00:50:45,584 --> 00:50:49,611
was not in the lexicon
of our rehearsal period even.
762
00:50:49,688 --> 00:50:52,384
Audrey and I
never talked about this.
763
00:50:52,457 --> 00:50:54,391
Isn�t that amazing?
764
00:50:55,193 --> 00:50:57,423
Truly amazing.
765
00:50:59,864 --> 00:51:03,197
The loathing she feels...
How sick she is with herself...
766
00:51:03,268 --> 00:51:07,102
It still makes me cry when I see that.
767
00:51:07,172 --> 00:51:10,733
I think, why am I crying?
Why does this still get to me?
768
00:51:10,809 --> 00:51:15,041
This is just an old silly movie.
People don't feel this way anymore.
769
00:51:15,113 --> 00:51:19,743
But I don't think that's true. I think
people do feel that way today still.
770
00:51:19,818 --> 00:51:22,753
There's part of me,
despite all my little signs...
771
00:51:22,821 --> 00:51:26,917
"Happy. Proud. Well-adjusted.
Bisexual. Queer. Kinky."
772
00:51:26,992 --> 00:51:30,359
No matter how many posters
I hold up saying...
773
00:51:30,428 --> 00:51:33,226
"I'm a big pervert,
and I'm so happy about it..."
774
00:51:33,298 --> 00:51:37,496
there's this part of me that's,
like, how could I be this way?
775
00:51:37,569 --> 00:51:41,164
He said to tell you before
you go on with the Lefflngwell matter...
776
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,469
you ought to remember
what happened in Hawaii.
777
00:51:43,541 --> 00:51:45,202
Then he hung up.
778
00:51:46,778 --> 00:51:50,145
What happened in Hawaii, Brig?
779
00:51:50,215 --> 00:51:52,877
What was the voice like?
780
00:51:52,951 --> 00:51:58,014
It was crawly. He made it sound like
he knew some kind of nasty secret.
781
00:51:58,089 --> 00:52:00,819
I've been on the front pages
the past few days.
782
00:52:00,892 --> 00:52:04,521
Bound to get some crackpot calls.
Just hang up if you get anymore.
783
00:52:04,596 --> 00:52:08,862
I saw Advise and Consent when
I was in my senior year in high school.
784
00:52:08,933 --> 00:52:12,664
Very much a virgin. I didn't
actually have sex with anybody...
785
00:52:12,737 --> 00:52:14,705
until I was 25 years old...
786
00:52:14,773 --> 00:52:17,207
so everything was theoretical
at that point.
787
00:52:17,275 --> 00:52:21,735
All I saw was a life that
might lie down the road for me.
788
00:52:25,550 --> 00:52:29,646
Let me hear a voice
789
00:52:29,721 --> 00:52:32,246
A secret voice
790
00:52:32,323 --> 00:52:36,555
A voice that will say
791
00:52:36,628 --> 00:52:39,392
senator Brigham Anderson,
who's being blackmailed...
792
00:52:39,464 --> 00:52:43,730
goes to check out
this former lover at a bar.
793
00:52:45,704 --> 00:52:50,471
It was my first glimpse
into what I imagined...
794
00:52:50,542 --> 00:52:55,275
organized gay life to be,
and it was very, very scary...
795
00:52:55,346 --> 00:53:00,875
because it suggested people who have
to remain hidden in the shadows.
796
00:53:02,420 --> 00:53:07,824
Well, come on in.
Don't just stand there.
797
00:53:13,131 --> 00:53:14,655
Don't run off.
798
00:53:22,273 --> 00:53:24,207
Ray! You're with me!
799
00:53:27,579 --> 00:53:29,012
Brig?
800
00:53:32,283 --> 00:53:34,274
- Wait a moment, Brig.
- Taxi!
801
00:53:34,352 --> 00:53:37,844
- Let me explain. Brig, wait a moment.
- Taxi!
802
00:53:37,922 --> 00:53:40,254
I needed money, Brig!
803
00:53:40,325 --> 00:53:45,262
Well, you wouldn't see me.
I kept calling. I was drunk.
804
00:53:45,330 --> 00:53:47,423
Drive, will ya? Drive!
805
00:53:49,834 --> 00:53:53,133
I felt that something dreadful
was going to happen to me...
806
00:53:53,204 --> 00:53:55,399
something that I wouldn't
be able to turn back...
807
00:53:55,473 --> 00:54:00,342
once I'd actually had sex
with another man...
808
00:54:00,411 --> 00:54:03,073
and that the end of that road
would be suicide.
809
00:54:03,148 --> 00:54:05,582
I got that impression
from the movies.
810
00:54:05,650 --> 00:54:07,584
Is that Brig?
811
00:54:09,220 --> 00:54:12,053
What's the matter?
812
00:54:12,123 --> 00:54:14,614
He's dead.
813
00:54:14,692 --> 00:54:16,421
Brig?
814
00:54:16,494 --> 00:54:20,055
In his office.
He cut his throat.
815
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,836
Oliver saw you.
You were with Dove all afternoon.
816
00:54:25,904 --> 00:54:29,772
You know, lying to me, Haley...
817
00:54:29,841 --> 00:54:32,537
oh, well, perhaps maturity
will change all that.
818
00:54:32,610 --> 00:54:34,578
What do you think
I'll mature into?
819
00:54:35,246 --> 00:54:36,679
You?
820
00:54:37,682 --> 00:54:40,207
I want to know what's going on
between you and that boy.
821
00:54:40,285 --> 00:54:42,219
Are you in love with
that Texas dirt farmer?
822
00:54:42,287 --> 00:54:44,118
He's more than that.
823
00:54:44,189 --> 00:54:47,317
It's gone quite far already, hasn't it?
You'd like to make him happy.
824
00:54:47,392 --> 00:54:49,326
Make all his dreams come true.
825
00:54:49,394 --> 00:54:52,192
- Perhaps even get married.
- Yes, even get married.
826
00:54:53,531 --> 00:54:56,898
All right,
I'll be sorry to lose you.
827
00:54:56,968 --> 00:54:59,402
But if you think the world
is your oyster, go ahead and take it.
828
00:54:59,470 --> 00:55:02,200
How do you think the boy is going to
feel when he finds out what you are...
829
00:55:02,273 --> 00:55:03,672
what you've been?
830
00:55:03,741 --> 00:55:05,675
- He'll forgive me.
- All right, go to him.
831
00:55:05,743 --> 00:55:08,337
After all, a girl like you
has so much to offer a man.
832
00:55:08,413 --> 00:55:10,142
A knife to cut his heart out.
833
00:55:10,215 --> 00:55:12,308
- I'll change!
- Of course you'll change!
834
00:55:12,383 --> 00:55:15,284
But haven't you said that so many times
before? But go on and tell him.
835
00:55:15,353 --> 00:55:17,446
Tell him about the days and nights
of Haley Gerard.
836
00:55:17,522 --> 00:55:19,547
Tell him about the mud
you've rolled in for years!
837
00:55:19,624 --> 00:55:21,717
Well, tell him!
838
00:55:21,793 --> 00:55:24,125
Growing up in that period in the '60s...
839
00:55:24,195 --> 00:55:28,063
all we had were images of unhappy...
840
00:55:28,132 --> 00:55:30,657
suicidal, desperate gay people.
841
00:55:31,736 --> 00:55:33,670
The thought of turning...
842
00:55:33,738 --> 00:55:35,672
of turning involuntarily...
843
00:55:35,740 --> 00:55:37,674
into one of them...
844
00:55:37,742 --> 00:55:41,405
frightened me and
made me sick with anger.
845
00:55:41,479 --> 00:55:43,811
I went down there.
846
00:55:43,882 --> 00:55:45,907
I had heard about the waterfront.
847
00:55:45,984 --> 00:55:48,316
People giggle
and make jokes about it.
848
00:55:48,386 --> 00:55:51,822
I had had only
two experiences before...
849
00:55:51,890 --> 00:55:55,917
once in college,
once in the army.
850
00:55:55,994 --> 00:56:00,328
I thought I'd gotten it
out of my life, but I hadn't.
851
00:56:00,398 --> 00:56:02,866
I looked at them.
852
00:56:03,935 --> 00:56:06,267
Was this what I was like?
853
00:56:06,337 --> 00:56:09,067
Oh, my God.
854
00:56:09,140 --> 00:56:13,372
Twisted faces, outcasts...
855
00:56:13,444 --> 00:56:17,380
lives lived in shadows,
always prey to a million dangers.
856
00:56:19,083 --> 00:56:21,881
People don't realize
what we go through.
857
00:56:21,953 --> 00:56:24,353
I was raised in a family
that would not even admit...
858
00:56:24,422 --> 00:56:28,518
that there was such a thing
as a homosexual in this world...
859
00:56:28,593 --> 00:56:31,357
and here I was...
860
00:56:31,429 --> 00:56:33,590
and I couldn't do
anything about it.
861
00:56:33,665 --> 00:56:35,656
I couldn't stop!
862
00:56:35,733 --> 00:56:37,724
These images magnify...
863
00:56:37,802 --> 00:56:41,636
the sadness...
864
00:56:41,706 --> 00:56:43,640
the hatred of us...
865
00:56:45,176 --> 00:56:48,304
the prediction that
we will not find love.
866
00:56:48,379 --> 00:56:50,711
How come you never got married?
867
00:56:52,984 --> 00:56:54,747
You're not bad-looking.
868
00:56:55,820 --> 00:56:57,412
Features are good.
869
00:57:00,391 --> 00:57:01,653
Nice legs...
870
00:57:03,628 --> 00:57:05,061
ankles.
871
00:57:07,865 --> 00:57:09,799
But you never had a man?
872
00:57:13,571 --> 00:57:15,505
I think that's really your problem.
873
00:57:18,076 --> 00:57:21,011
I think the fate of gay characters...
874
00:57:21,079 --> 00:57:24,014
in American literature, plays, films...
875
00:57:24,082 --> 00:57:27,916
is the same as the fate of all
characters who are sexually free.
876
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:30,953
Haley?
877
00:57:34,325 --> 00:57:36,259
Get Jo out of here!
878
00:57:40,832 --> 00:57:42,094
You must pay.
879
00:57:42,166 --> 00:57:44,100
You must suffer.
880
00:57:45,269 --> 00:57:48,636
If you're a woman who commits adultery,
you're only put out in the storm.
881
00:57:48,706 --> 00:57:52,107
If you're a woman who has another woman,
you'd better go hang yourself.
882
00:57:52,176 --> 00:57:57,045
It's a question of degree, and if you're
gay you have to do real penance... die.
883
00:57:57,115 --> 00:57:59,811
I knew you were gay
the moment you walked into the bar.
884
00:58:01,352 --> 00:58:03,286
How could you know?
885
00:58:04,455 --> 00:58:06,013
We know each other.
886
00:58:11,396 --> 00:58:13,830
something about the way you walked.
887
00:58:18,202 --> 00:58:19,794
something about the eyes.
888
00:58:22,373 --> 00:58:24,307
What's the matter with you?
889
00:58:26,944 --> 00:58:29,208
Let go of me!
890
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,214
I'll call the police!
Let go!
891
00:58:34,419 --> 00:58:36,080
- Don't.
- Operator?
892
00:58:36,154 --> 00:58:38,088
Don't do that!
893
00:58:38,156 --> 00:58:39,589
You bitch!
894
00:58:46,364 --> 00:58:48,594
By now,
the pattern was clear...
895
00:58:48,666 --> 00:58:50,930
characters
of questionable sexuality...
896
00:58:51,002 --> 00:58:54,836
would meet with a nasty end
in the last reel.
897
00:58:58,242 --> 00:59:01,040
Feed your faces and keep your traps shut
if you don't want to...
898
00:59:01,879 --> 00:59:04,109
Kill her. Kill her! Kill her!
899
00:59:45,156 --> 00:59:47,454
Oh, Martha.
900
00:59:58,035 --> 01:00:01,300
When the time comes,
you won't have the guts.
901
01:00:01,372 --> 01:00:03,670
It's not always like
it happens in plays.
902
01:00:03,741 --> 01:00:07,142
Not all faggots bump themselves off
at the end of the story.
903
01:00:07,211 --> 01:00:10,078
- One, two. one, two.
- Oh, Christ.
904
01:00:10,148 --> 01:00:13,413
Single, single, dip.
905
01:00:13,484 --> 01:00:15,281
- Wait a minute!
- One, two, three.
906
01:00:16,087 --> 01:00:18,954
It's the geriatrics Rockettes.
907
01:00:19,023 --> 01:00:20,388
Finally, it happened.
908
01:00:20,458 --> 01:00:24,519
Hollywood made a movie in which gay men
took a hard look at their own lives.
909
01:00:24,595 --> 01:00:27,223
It's the sensational Menstruations!
910
01:00:27,298 --> 01:00:29,232
And, in a refreshing twist...
911
01:00:29,300 --> 01:00:31,359
they all survived.
912
01:00:32,203 --> 01:00:34,831
The great thing about seeing
The Boys in the Band...
913
01:00:34,906 --> 01:00:37,773
I hadn't come out yet...
914
01:00:37,842 --> 01:00:41,141
and what it did for me
was present gay men...
915
01:00:41,212 --> 01:00:44,841
as having this incredible sense
of camaraderie...
916
01:00:44,916 --> 01:00:50,411
this sense of belonging to a group
which I, d never really felt before.
917
01:00:52,623 --> 01:00:55,023
Forget your troubles
Come on, get happy
918
01:00:55,092 --> 01:00:57,890
You better chase
all your cares away
919
01:00:59,830 --> 01:01:03,322
What's more boring than a queen
doing a Judy Garland imitation?
920
01:01:03,401 --> 01:01:06,529
A queen doing
a Bette Davis imitation.
921
01:01:06,604 --> 01:01:09,004
I knew a lot of people...
922
01:01:09,073 --> 01:01:12,270
like those people.
923
01:01:12,343 --> 01:01:16,109
I would say that probably
all nine of them...
924
01:01:16,180 --> 01:01:19,616
are split-off pieces of myself.
925
01:01:19,684 --> 01:01:25,589
What I am, Michael, is a 32-year-old,
ugly, pockmarked Jew fairy...
926
01:01:25,656 --> 01:01:28,420
and if it takes me a while
to pull myself together...
927
01:01:28,492 --> 01:01:33,327
if I smoke some grass before I get up
the nerve to show myself to the world...
928
01:01:33,397 --> 01:01:36,833
it's nobody's goddamn business
but my own.
929
01:01:38,502 --> 01:01:40,436
And how are you this evening?
930
01:01:40,504 --> 01:01:42,631
They were miserable and bitchy.
931
01:01:42,707 --> 01:01:44,334
If I was wrong...
932
01:01:44,408 --> 01:01:47,935
it was definitely
a reflection of what was...
933
01:01:49,146 --> 01:01:51,671
wrong in my head.
934
01:01:51,749 --> 01:01:56,311
But that's the way
I saw things then.
935
01:01:56,387 --> 01:01:58,981
You're a sad and pathetic man.
936
01:02:01,626 --> 01:02:04,117
You're a homosexual,
and you don't want to be.
937
01:02:05,096 --> 01:02:08,031
But there's nothing you can do
to change it.
938
01:02:09,300 --> 01:02:12,394
Not all your prayers
to your God.
939
01:02:12,470 --> 01:02:16,907
Not all the analysis you can buy in
all the years you've got left to live.
940
01:02:18,676 --> 01:02:23,204
You may very well one day
be able to know a heterosexual life...
941
01:02:23,281 --> 01:02:26,307
if you want it
desperately enough...
942
01:02:26,384 --> 01:02:29,979
if you pursue it with the fervor
with which you annihilate.
943
01:02:31,522 --> 01:02:34,082
But you'll always be
homosexual as well.
944
01:02:35,526 --> 01:02:37,118
Always, Michael.
945
01:02:38,562 --> 01:02:40,587
Always...
946
01:02:40,665 --> 01:02:42,599
until the day you die.
947
01:02:51,409 --> 01:02:52,501
Friends...
948
01:02:54,979 --> 01:02:56,947
thanks for the nifty party.
949
01:02:58,783 --> 01:03:03,083
I think that
the self-deprecating humor...
950
01:03:03,154 --> 01:03:05,088
was borne out of a...
951
01:03:07,258 --> 01:03:09,692
low self-esteem, if you will...
952
01:03:11,329 --> 01:03:15,823
from a sense of what the times
told you about yourself.
953
01:03:18,069 --> 01:03:23,530
Homosexuality was still classified
as a mental illness.
954
01:03:32,650 --> 01:03:36,643
You went into a gay bar,
you were liable to be arrested...
955
01:03:36,721 --> 01:03:38,848
or the place be raided.
956
01:03:38,923 --> 01:03:43,519
I've been in those situations.
957
01:03:45,896 --> 01:03:48,057
There were still
not just attitudes...
958
01:03:48,132 --> 01:03:51,101
there were laws against...
959
01:03:51,869 --> 01:03:53,700
one's being...
960
01:03:53,771 --> 01:03:56,433
the core of one's being.
961
01:03:56,507 --> 01:04:00,443
If we could just not
hate ourselves so much.
962
01:04:04,048 --> 01:04:05,982
That's it, you know.
963
01:04:08,152 --> 01:04:11,553
If we could just learn
not to hate ourselves...
964
01:04:12,957 --> 01:04:14,891
quite so very much.
965
01:04:28,873 --> 01:04:30,204
The first film...
966
01:04:30,274 --> 01:04:35,211
that really celebrated homosexuality,
as far as I was concerned, was Cabaret.
967
01:04:40,751 --> 01:04:44,778
For me, it embodied the very life I was
beginning to live in San Francisco...
968
01:04:44,855 --> 01:04:49,690
one in which there was no real onus
placed on homosexuality.
969
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,695
Doesn't my body
drive you wild with desire?
970
01:04:55,099 --> 01:04:57,033
Well, doesn't it?
971
01:04:59,170 --> 01:05:01,468
Lt's a very nice body.
972
01:05:01,539 --> 01:05:03,973
Do you really think so,
darling?
973
01:05:04,041 --> 01:05:06,805
It does have
a certain kind of style.
974
01:05:06,877 --> 01:05:10,369
I mean, look,
it's very flat here...
975
01:05:10,448 --> 01:05:12,416
not much hips...
976
01:05:12,483 --> 01:05:13,916
and...
977
01:05:15,486 --> 01:05:16,919
here.
978
01:05:18,722 --> 01:05:21,657
It's a little early in the day
for this sort of thing.
979
01:05:27,364 --> 01:05:30,299
Maybe you just don't
sleep with girls.
980
01:05:33,971 --> 01:05:35,563
oh.
981
01:05:35,639 --> 01:05:36,833
You don't.
982
01:05:40,778 --> 01:05:43,679
Listen, we're practically
living together...
983
01:05:43,747 --> 01:05:47,478
so if you only like boys
I wouldn't dream of pestering you.
984
01:05:49,053 --> 01:05:51,385
Do you sleep with girls,
or don't you?
985
01:05:51,455 --> 01:05:53,548
You don't ask questions
like that.
986
01:05:54,291 --> 01:05:55,553
I do.
987
01:05:55,626 --> 01:05:58,925
The boy was homosexual...
988
01:05:58,996 --> 01:06:03,228
and it seemed rational, reasonable.
989
01:06:03,300 --> 01:06:05,666
I mean, that's what the story was.
990
01:06:05,736 --> 01:06:09,194
There was no fuss with anybody.
991
01:06:09,273 --> 01:06:10,831
None at all.
992
01:06:10,908 --> 01:06:13,809
Oh, screw Maximillian!
993
01:06:14,879 --> 01:06:16,369
I do.
994
01:06:26,824 --> 01:06:28,917
so do I.
995
01:06:29,660 --> 01:06:31,890
So, things changed...
996
01:06:31,962 --> 01:06:34,430
more quickly
than you might imagine.
997
01:06:34,498 --> 01:06:37,194
- And who are you?
- I'm Bernstein.
998
01:06:37,268 --> 01:06:39,862
- You're Jewish?
- No, darling, I'm gay.
999
01:06:47,111 --> 01:06:50,308
I don't care how you feel.
You're a great dancer.
1000
01:06:50,381 --> 01:06:52,315
You're not bad yourself.
1001
01:06:54,051 --> 01:06:56,349
I think it was easier...
1002
01:06:56,420 --> 01:06:58,149
for the powers that be...
1003
01:06:58,222 --> 01:07:03,990
to show a black rather than
a white character as a homosexual.
1004
01:07:04,061 --> 01:07:07,292
Why? I don't understand that.
1005
01:07:07,364 --> 01:07:09,298
But I do understand it...
1006
01:07:09,366 --> 01:07:13,029
just like it's more easy
for us to have...
1007
01:07:13,103 --> 01:07:15,765
the sitcoms, situation comedies,
on television...
1008
01:07:15,839 --> 01:07:18,433
and not the serious dramas
about our lives.
1009
01:07:18,509 --> 01:07:20,807
But a lot of things
can be said through comedy.
1010
01:07:20,878 --> 01:07:23,813
Would you please get out of my face...
1011
01:07:23,881 --> 01:07:25,212
you sorry-looking faggot?
1012
01:07:26,283 --> 01:07:28,308
Who you callin' sorry-lookin'?
1013
01:07:30,454 --> 01:07:32,581
Can't y'all see
that she ain't funny?
1014
01:07:32,656 --> 01:07:35,750
She's just another poor example...
1015
01:07:35,826 --> 01:07:38,317
of how the system
destroys our men.
1016
01:07:38,395 --> 01:07:43,298
Honey, I am more man than you'll ever be
and more woman than you'll ever get.
1017
01:07:44,134 --> 01:07:45,658
shit!
1018
01:07:51,842 --> 01:07:55,278
But there was a downside
to the new gay visibility.
1019
01:07:55,346 --> 01:07:58,782
The threat of retaliation
could be waiting just down the road.
1020
01:07:58,849 --> 01:08:02,148
This is the first image I remember...
1021
01:08:02,219 --> 01:08:05,154
having of gays in a movie I saw.
1022
01:08:05,222 --> 01:08:08,191
It was the hitchhikers
that were picked up in vanishing Point.
1023
01:08:08,993 --> 01:08:12,622
Pardon me. Could you tell us
which direction you're headed?
1024
01:08:12,696 --> 01:08:14,630
I'm going to Frisco.
1025
01:08:14,698 --> 01:08:17,690
Oh, well, that's perfect.
Thank you.
1026
01:08:17,768 --> 01:08:22,330
one of the guys was carrying a purse.
They wore very tight, pinched clothes.
1027
01:08:22,406 --> 01:08:24,966
He had a lascivious look
on his face.
1028
01:08:26,243 --> 01:08:28,006
Why are you laughing?
1029
01:08:29,380 --> 01:08:31,041
I'm not laughing.
1030
01:08:31,115 --> 01:08:32,776
Yes, you are.
1031
01:08:32,850 --> 01:08:36,650
It's because you think
we're queers, isn't it?
1032
01:08:40,958 --> 01:08:42,391
This is a stickup.
1033
01:08:43,427 --> 01:08:44,860
stickup?
1034
01:08:48,699 --> 01:08:50,690
Why are you laughing, Mary?
1035
01:08:50,768 --> 01:08:56,400
We all howled, because all you saw was
the car speeding at 60 miles per hour...
1036
01:08:56,473 --> 01:08:59,499
then screeching to a stop
and the two guys were thrown out.
1037
01:08:59,576 --> 01:09:05,378
We thought that was great..." Remember
when the two homos got thrown out?"
1038
01:09:05,449 --> 01:09:06,916
We thought that was amazing.
1039
01:09:06,984 --> 01:09:10,249
There it was, almost the image
of what a homosexual was.
1040
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:12,311
Bitch.
1041
01:09:12,389 --> 01:09:17,554
To be gay not only meant wearing pinched
clothes with this look on your face...
1042
01:09:17,628 --> 01:09:19,323
but you also carried a purse.
1043
01:09:19,396 --> 01:09:22,695
I've had the experience
of being in a theater...
1044
01:09:22,766 --> 01:09:24,700
and really enjoying a movie...
1045
01:09:24,768 --> 01:09:27,703
and then suddenly, out of nowhere...
1046
01:09:27,771 --> 01:09:31,571
comes some kind of
pseudo-homosexual character...
1047
01:09:31,642 --> 01:09:35,408
who is the villain, the killer,
or is killed...
1048
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:37,447
and the audience
bursts into applause.
1049
01:09:38,682 --> 01:09:41,947
I was with friends and we were
watching Freebie and the Bean.
1050
01:09:42,019 --> 01:09:45,978
There's this killer transvestite...
1051
01:09:46,056 --> 01:09:48,820
who does sort of
a murderous ballet.
1052
01:09:50,127 --> 01:09:53,096
And of course, triumphantly,
our hero pulls out a gun...
1053
01:09:53,163 --> 01:09:56,963
and blows five million holes
through the murderous transvestite...
1054
01:09:57,034 --> 01:09:59,628
and the audience
burst into applause.
1055
01:10:06,276 --> 01:10:08,210
There were two things
happening there.
1056
01:10:08,278 --> 01:10:10,838
People were applauding
the death of the villain...
1057
01:10:10,914 --> 01:10:14,907
but they were also applauding
the death of a homosexual.
1058
01:10:18,122 --> 01:10:22,923
You know you're watching a heterosexual
movie when you see a Hollywood movie...
1059
01:10:22,993 --> 01:10:27,657
but you don't... you're still not
quite ready for being insulted.
1060
01:10:27,731 --> 01:10:30,700
Do you know, at this moment...
1061
01:10:30,768 --> 01:10:33,703
I have sunk as low as I can go.
1062
01:10:40,744 --> 01:10:42,177
I was wrong.
1063
01:10:42,246 --> 01:10:45,875
Are you gonna tell me you're a fag?
1064
01:10:45,949 --> 01:10:48,577
I don't think I can handle it.
1065
01:10:48,652 --> 01:10:51,280
I'm not a fag.
1066
01:10:51,355 --> 01:10:53,687
I'm a werewolf.
1067
01:10:54,925 --> 01:10:57,359
I never hear the word "nigger" used...
1068
01:10:57,427 --> 01:11:00,726
unless it's by two black people...
1069
01:11:00,798 --> 01:11:02,732
as a form of affection...
1070
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,860
or by a...
1071
01:11:05,936 --> 01:11:08,871
totally bigoted southern sheriff.
1072
01:11:08,939 --> 01:11:11,840
You know,
the blubbering stereotype.
1073
01:11:11,909 --> 01:11:17,211
To point out his ignorance,
he would use that term. You see?
1074
01:11:17,281 --> 01:11:19,215
"Faggot" is not used in that way.
1075
01:11:19,283 --> 01:11:25,017
"Faggot" is used by just anyone
talking to anyone else.
1076
01:11:25,088 --> 01:11:29,047
Hey, doesn't this cafeteria
have a "no fags allowed" rule?
1077
01:11:29,126 --> 01:11:31,390
Hey, killer.
Why are you on your knees?
1078
01:11:32,362 --> 01:11:33,624
You queer or somethin'?
1079
01:11:33,697 --> 01:11:36,291
I know what you've been after,
you goddamn faggot.
1080
01:11:36,366 --> 01:11:38,766
You must be creamin'
all over your faggot self.
1081
01:11:38,836 --> 01:11:41,896
After all this, you won't have to hang
out with that faggot Caesar anymore.
1082
01:11:41,972 --> 01:11:44,236
Unhappy, faggot?
1083
01:11:44,308 --> 01:11:46,469
You're a faggot,
a dirty queer.
1084
01:11:46,543 --> 01:11:48,875
- You a queer?
- Hell no, sir!
1085
01:11:48,946 --> 01:11:50,573
What's the matter?
You goin' faggot?
1086
01:11:50,647 --> 01:11:52,410
You turnin' fag on me?
1087
01:11:52,482 --> 01:11:55,610
- Oh, you're a tough faggot, ain't you?
- What do you faggots want?
1088
01:11:55,686 --> 01:11:57,654
You hear me,
you fuckin' faggots?
1089
01:11:57,721 --> 01:12:00,212
- Fuck you, faggot.
- Fuck you, queer.
1090
01:12:00,290 --> 01:12:03,487
- Who is this faggot?
- You bald-headed, flatfoot faggot.
1091
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:07,656
You become either inured to it
or conditioned to accept it...
1092
01:12:07,731 --> 01:12:10,325
and it becomes the attitude...
1093
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:11,958
the prevailing attitude.
1094
01:12:12,035 --> 01:12:16,665
It becomes the way people
perceive gay people.
1095
01:12:21,812 --> 01:12:25,646
When Hollywood finally acknowledged
the burgeoning gay scene...
1096
01:12:25,716 --> 01:12:27,650
it came up with a grisly thriller...
1097
01:12:27,718 --> 01:12:31,085
set in the world of leather bars.
1098
01:12:33,757 --> 01:12:36,692
- How big are you?
- Party size.
1099
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:39,695
- What are you into?
- I go anywhere.
1100
01:12:40,964 --> 01:12:43,899
- I don't do anything.
- That's cool.
1101
01:12:43,967 --> 01:12:45,901
Hips or lips?
1102
01:12:51,875 --> 01:12:55,106
I did have an experience
with the movie Cruising.
1103
01:12:55,178 --> 01:12:58,978
Not about seeing the movie,
but being the victim of someone who had.
1104
01:12:59,049 --> 01:13:03,383
My lover and I were gay-bashed by
young men who worked in a movie theater.
1105
01:13:03,453 --> 01:13:05,546
They threatened us...
1106
01:13:05,622 --> 01:13:09,615
they chased us out of the theater,
into the street...
1107
01:13:09,693 --> 01:13:13,288
and as I was escaping from one of them,
he said to me...
1108
01:13:13,363 --> 01:13:16,355
"If you saw the movie Cruising,
you know what you deserve."
1109
01:13:21,838 --> 01:13:23,772
Who's here?
1110
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:25,740
I'm here.
1111
01:13:25,809 --> 01:13:27,743
You're here.
1112
01:13:29,913 --> 01:13:31,574
Now I'm afraid.
1113
01:13:31,648 --> 01:13:33,843
Homosexuals in movies
had changed...
1114
01:13:33,917 --> 01:13:37,045
from victims to victimizers.
1115
01:13:38,055 --> 01:13:39,215
show it.
1116
01:13:42,326 --> 01:13:43,759
Lift up the sweater.
1117
01:14:06,583 --> 01:14:10,383
Please. Please. Please.
1118
01:14:15,659 --> 01:14:17,957
You made me do that.
1119
01:14:29,606 --> 01:14:33,098
stop the movie Cruising!
stop the movie Cruising!
1120
01:14:43,954 --> 01:14:46,422
Gays fight back!
1121
01:14:49,860 --> 01:14:53,193
one movie boldly showed homosexuality...
1122
01:14:53,263 --> 01:14:56,198
as an act of love, not violence.
1123
01:14:56,266 --> 01:14:58,200
so Hollywood had to warn the public.
1124
01:15:09,846 --> 01:15:12,212
This was 1982.
1125
01:15:12,282 --> 01:15:14,512
There hadn't been any gay characters...
1126
01:15:14,584 --> 01:15:16,984
in leading roles.
1127
01:15:17,754 --> 01:15:21,349
okay, the truth is, I have gotten
into a lot of different scenes.
1128
01:15:21,425 --> 01:15:23,586
I'm a writer.
1129
01:15:23,660 --> 01:15:26,595
I have to open myself up
to new things...
1130
01:15:26,663 --> 01:15:28,824
expand my horizons.
1131
01:15:36,339 --> 01:15:38,534
Why don't you just say it?
1132
01:15:40,343 --> 01:15:42,607
I'm gay.
1133
01:15:42,679 --> 01:15:44,374
Thank you.
1134
01:15:45,382 --> 01:15:47,350
You're welcome.
1135
01:15:47,417 --> 01:15:50,181
It was very hard to cast.
1136
01:15:50,253 --> 01:15:52,619
The men were hard to cast...
1137
01:15:52,689 --> 01:15:56,625
because every one of their advisors...
1138
01:15:56,693 --> 01:15:58,752
both Harry Hamlin
and Michael Ontkean...
1139
01:15:58,829 --> 01:16:03,493
told them not to play
someone who was gay...
1140
01:16:03,567 --> 01:16:05,501
that it would destroy
their careers.
1141
01:16:05,569 --> 01:16:07,503
There was the general perception...
1142
01:16:07,571 --> 01:16:09,539
at least in the early '80s...
1143
01:16:09,606 --> 01:16:15,044
I don't know what it's like now...
that Hollywood was a cowboy town.
1144
01:16:15,112 --> 01:16:16,807
A straight cowboy town.
1145
01:16:18,548 --> 01:16:24,145
I am sure that inside of me there is
the same homophobia that we all share.
1146
01:16:24,221 --> 01:16:27,952
If I see a guy
who's playing a gay role...
1147
01:16:28,024 --> 01:16:32,256
I'll question it and say,
"Wow, is he gay?"
1148
01:16:32,329 --> 01:16:35,025
Why I do that, I don't know.
1149
01:16:35,098 --> 01:16:38,898
Then I'll stop and say, "That's silly.
You've been there, you've done that."
1150
01:16:38,969 --> 01:16:41,904
The question is,
why do we care?
1151
01:16:41,972 --> 01:16:43,906
I mean, who cares?
1152
01:16:48,145 --> 01:16:50,079
I'll do that.
1153
01:16:58,588 --> 01:17:01,079
The ownership of the studio
changed hands...
1154
01:17:01,158 --> 01:17:04,525
and a new person came in
who was not from the film world...
1155
01:17:04,594 --> 01:17:06,687
nor the intellectual world...
1156
01:17:06,763 --> 01:17:09,129
nor the world
of letters and arts...
1157
01:17:09,199 --> 01:17:14,865
and I had the unpleasant task...
1158
01:17:14,938 --> 01:17:18,874
of running in the screening room
for this man...
1159
01:17:18,942 --> 01:17:21,775
and his lovely wife
and daughters...
1160
01:17:21,845 --> 01:17:23,904
the rough cut of the film.
1161
01:17:24,881 --> 01:17:27,509
None of my colleagues would be there.
They were all afraid.
1162
01:17:27,584 --> 01:17:29,882
I was there by myself,
in the back.
1163
01:17:29,953 --> 01:17:33,389
He was sitting up front
in the small screening room.
1164
01:17:36,393 --> 01:17:40,659
He was squirming all during the movie.
He just couldn't sit still.
1165
01:17:40,730 --> 01:17:42,823
And at the part in the movie...
1166
01:17:42,899 --> 01:17:45,834
where the two men
embrace and kiss...
1167
01:17:45,902 --> 01:17:47,836
he jumped up and said...
1168
01:17:47,904 --> 01:17:49,997
"You made a goddamn faggot movie"...
1169
01:17:50,073 --> 01:17:52,166
and stalked out.
1170
01:18:05,689 --> 01:18:08,624
The day it opened,
I happened to be in Miami.
1171
01:18:08,692 --> 01:18:10,626
We sat down, the movie started...
1172
01:18:10,694 --> 01:18:13,219
and as the movie progressed...
1173
01:18:13,296 --> 01:18:16,629
you sensed the audience
growing more and more uncomfortable...
1174
01:18:16,700 --> 01:18:18,964
with what was going on the screen.
1175
01:18:20,036 --> 01:18:21,401
It kept escalating.
1176
01:18:22,572 --> 01:18:26,838
When they had the first kiss, it seemed
there was an explosion in the theater.
1177
01:18:26,910 --> 01:18:29,640
People panicked.
There was pandemonium.
1178
01:18:29,713 --> 01:18:33,945
People started storming up the aisles.
At that point, I just left.
1179
01:18:34,017 --> 01:18:35,951
Mainstream people...
1180
01:18:36,019 --> 01:18:38,317
dislike homosexuality...
1181
01:18:38,388 --> 01:18:42,085
because they can't help concentrating...
1182
01:18:42,158 --> 01:18:46,754
on what homosexual men do
to one another.
1183
01:18:46,830 --> 01:18:49,993
And when you contemplate
what people do...
1184
01:18:50,066 --> 01:18:52,557
you think of yourself doing it...
1185
01:18:52,636 --> 01:18:55,036
and they don't like that.
1186
01:18:55,105 --> 01:18:56,868
That's the famous joke...
1187
01:18:56,940 --> 01:18:59,875
"I don't like peas,
and I'm glad I don't...
1188
01:18:59,943 --> 01:19:02,878
because if I liked them I'd eat them,
and I hate them."
1189
01:19:17,227 --> 01:19:21,323
There was a time when men were free
to express tenderness on the screen.
1190
01:19:25,802 --> 01:19:28,737
But as the world grew more aware
of homosexuality...
1191
01:19:28,805 --> 01:19:32,673
male-to-male affection would be seen
as an incriminating act.
1192
01:19:35,245 --> 01:19:37,975
A kiss would become an assault...
1193
01:19:38,048 --> 01:19:39,743
or an ugly accusation.
1194
01:19:39,816 --> 01:19:42,751
I'll show you what you're gonna be.
1195
01:19:42,819 --> 01:19:44,753
What you are.
1196
01:19:51,661 --> 01:19:53,629
I'll kill you for that!
1197
01:19:58,335 --> 01:20:01,600
Americans, perhaps,
are more scared of their sexuality.
1198
01:20:01,671 --> 01:20:04,606
They're prepared to show violence
of all kinds...
1199
01:20:04,674 --> 01:20:07,609
but when it comes to sexuality...
1200
01:20:07,677 --> 01:20:09,838
America is both self-righteous...
1201
01:20:09,913 --> 01:20:14,179
and tries to bury it
as if it didn't exist, which is silly.
1202
01:20:15,418 --> 01:20:18,353
Are you all right?
1203
01:20:22,258 --> 01:20:24,818
We had quite an argument
about the kiss.
1204
01:20:24,894 --> 01:20:28,955
The screenwriter felt the whole thing
should be in silhouetted long shot.
1205
01:20:29,032 --> 01:20:30,761
I said, "No way.
1206
01:20:30,834 --> 01:20:33,064
It should just happen."
1207
01:20:33,903 --> 01:20:35,996
And that's what we did.
1208
01:20:48,051 --> 01:20:53,114
There's a difference in how audiences
look at two men getting it on...
1209
01:20:53,189 --> 01:20:55,123
and two women getting it on.
1210
01:21:00,397 --> 01:21:03,230
There's a comfort
with female nudity...
1211
01:21:03,299 --> 01:21:07,963
and female girlishness
and girly bonding...
1212
01:21:08,037 --> 01:21:12,565
that it can be sexy and it can be
completely palatable, even erotic.
1213
01:21:12,642 --> 01:21:14,735
Women don't find it threatening...
1214
01:21:14,811 --> 01:21:18,941
and men find it either completely
unthreatening or titillating.
1215
01:21:20,750 --> 01:21:25,778
straight men are more uncomfortable
with two men making love...
1216
01:21:25,855 --> 01:21:28,187
because somehow
that means you're weak...
1217
01:21:28,258 --> 01:21:34,094
and people equate weakness
with male sensuality toward other men...
1218
01:21:34,164 --> 01:21:37,224
not realizing that
that's a ridiculous theory.
1219
01:21:37,300 --> 01:21:40,360
That's why people say,
"I'm a man"...
1220
01:21:40,437 --> 01:21:45,306
like being a man is based on
who you happening to be boning that day.
1221
01:21:49,012 --> 01:21:52,448
In The Color Purple,
Celie has fallen in love with Shug.
1222
01:21:54,751 --> 01:21:57,686
They're two women
who love each other.
1223
01:22:01,758 --> 01:22:04,318
This intimacy...
1224
01:22:04,394 --> 01:22:05,884
is not about sex.
1225
01:22:05,962 --> 01:22:08,157
I think it's much deeper.
1226
01:22:09,232 --> 01:22:10,722
Let's keep goin'.
1227
01:22:12,035 --> 01:22:13,297
What do you mean?
1228
01:22:14,070 --> 01:22:19,531
It's much easier for audiences to accept
2 women being affectionate than 2 men.
1229
01:22:19,609 --> 01:22:21,543
That's a big, big taboo.
1230
01:22:23,947 --> 01:22:25,346
You sure?
1231
01:22:30,286 --> 01:22:32,015
Hit it.
1232
01:22:43,666 --> 01:22:47,033
But when I put the kiss in
at the end of Thelma and Louise...
1233
01:22:47,103 --> 01:22:49,071
that gave people pause.
1234
01:22:49,138 --> 01:22:52,005
I told Geena.
I didn�t tell anybody else.
1235
01:22:54,377 --> 01:22:57,813
They were beyond sexuality. It was love.
1236
01:22:57,881 --> 01:23:01,442
If you're about to go off a cliff,
I don't think you're gonna make a pass.
1237
01:23:01,518 --> 01:23:03,952
To me, it was a declaration of...
1238
01:23:05,522 --> 01:23:08,457
that they were at a point where they
were finishing each other's sentences...
1239
01:23:08,525 --> 01:23:12,427
and they were there for each other
in the tradition of Butch Cassidy...
1240
01:23:12,495 --> 01:23:16,431
except that they didn�t get shot down.
1241
01:23:16,499 --> 01:23:18,490
Go.
1242
01:23:20,837 --> 01:23:22,771
Wouldn't that have been great
if Butch and Sundance...
1243
01:23:22,839 --> 01:23:25,774
Well, then they would've had
more reason to shoot them, I suppose...
1244
01:23:25,842 --> 01:23:29,744
if Butch and the Sundance Kid
had kissed at the end.
1245
01:23:29,812 --> 01:23:32,280
But they did what guys do
in movies...
1246
01:23:32,348 --> 01:23:35,340
They got their guns out, because
they couldn't get their dicks out.
1247
01:23:35,418 --> 01:23:39,354
They got their guns out and went down
with their guns. That's what boys do.
1248
01:23:44,060 --> 01:23:46,995
Are you making a pass at me,
Mrs. Blaylock?
1249
01:23:49,299 --> 01:23:50,732
Miriam.
1250
01:23:55,138 --> 01:23:57,072
Not that I'm aware of, Sarah.
1251
01:23:57,140 --> 01:24:02,840
Originally, the script was a Playboy
version of them getting together.
1252
01:24:02,912 --> 01:24:04,641
It had a lot to do...
1253
01:24:04,714 --> 01:24:06,841
with lingerie and posing.
1254
01:24:06,916 --> 01:24:09,077
There was no real scene.
1255
01:24:09,152 --> 01:24:14,454
And so I said that
I really thought that what was sexy...
1256
01:24:14,524 --> 01:24:17,823
would be the first moment
the people touch.
1257
01:24:17,894 --> 01:24:21,694
so I came up with the little scene
where she spills something on herself...
1258
01:24:21,764 --> 01:24:24,699
she gives her something,
they touch that way, they have a kiss...
1259
01:24:24,767 --> 01:24:30,330
and then you go into all of the curtains
blowing over their bodies stuff.
1260
01:24:45,388 --> 01:24:48,323
The other thing was,
they felt I should be really drunk.
1261
01:24:48,391 --> 01:24:53,055
That was their way of taking away
her choice, in a sense.
1262
01:24:53,129 --> 01:24:56,963
I insisted that
that not be that way...
1263
01:24:57,033 --> 01:25:02,130
that certainly you wouldn't have to
get drunk to bed Catherine Deneuve...
1264
01:25:02,205 --> 01:25:07,575
I don't care what your sexual history
to that point had been.
1265
01:25:07,644 --> 01:25:11,080
It was much more interesting
if she went voluntarily.
1266
01:25:20,023 --> 01:25:23,254
I don't think,
for better or worse...
1267
01:25:23,326 --> 01:25:26,261
that women are taken
very seriously in this area.
1268
01:25:26,329 --> 01:25:29,423
I think the feeling is,
if two women are together...
1269
01:25:29,499 --> 01:25:32,764
then it's probably experimental
or some kind of phase...
1270
01:25:32,835 --> 01:25:35,770
and if the right guy came along
that would all change.
1271
01:25:35,838 --> 01:25:40,775
so it's something that straight men
can watch and not be threatened by.
1272
01:25:40,843 --> 01:25:44,779
And straight men are the ones that are
propelling the industry forward...
1273
01:25:44,847 --> 01:25:46,940
so I don't think
it's taken that seriously.
1274
01:25:47,016 --> 01:25:51,453
I suppose when you go to the movies
and you see men being affectionate...
1275
01:25:51,521 --> 01:25:54,854
besides the sex, the affection itself...
1276
01:25:54,924 --> 01:25:56,858
is just too much.
1277
01:25:56,926 --> 01:25:59,861
Guys are supposed to be
strong and unfeeling.
1278
01:26:36,165 --> 01:26:37,894
I get so angry...
1279
01:26:37,967 --> 01:26:41,403
about what Hollywood will do
with an original story or script...
1280
01:26:41,471 --> 01:26:43,405
to get rid of
the lesbian element...
1281
01:26:43,473 --> 01:26:47,000
that I feel like standing up
in the theater and just shouting.
1282
01:26:47,076 --> 01:26:51,069
These characters are dykes,
and this movie isn�t saying so.
1283
01:26:51,147 --> 01:26:55,083
What's your mother gonna say
when she sees us both drunk?
1284
01:26:56,252 --> 01:27:00,348
stop worrying about what people think.
1285
01:27:00,423 --> 01:27:02,721
I mean, you've always
done the right thing.
1286
01:27:02,792 --> 01:27:05,955
You took care of your daddy,
the preacher, when he took sick.
1287
01:27:06,028 --> 01:27:09,122
You take care of all the kids
over at the church school.
1288
01:27:09,198 --> 01:27:12,565
You're gonna take care of your mama.
1289
01:27:12,635 --> 01:27:16,594
I know, and I'm gonna marry
the man I'm supposed to.
1290
01:27:16,672 --> 01:27:18,333
You're gettin' married?
1291
01:27:18,407 --> 01:27:20,705
As soon as the summer's over.
1292
01:27:20,777 --> 01:27:23,871
The passion that these two women
feel for each other...
1293
01:27:23,946 --> 01:27:26,881
was not presented in an open way
in the movie.
1294
01:27:26,949 --> 01:27:28,883
I'm gonna miss you.
1295
01:27:28,951 --> 01:27:31,613
It's like somebody's
just powdered me with fleas.
1296
01:27:31,687 --> 01:27:35,555
The entire time I'm being irritated
that they're not telling the truth.
1297
01:27:42,532 --> 01:27:43,999
Everybody in the business...
1298
01:27:44,066 --> 01:27:48,503
we all get paid more than we should,
more than our fathers ever made.
1299
01:27:48,571 --> 01:27:51,438
There's always the fear that...
1300
01:27:51,507 --> 01:27:54,067
they're gonna take it away,
so we'd better be...
1301
01:27:54,143 --> 01:27:57,579
And that's why most people
in those roles are conservative.
1302
01:27:57,647 --> 01:28:01,014
Most people who run big businesses
in America are conservative.
1303
01:28:01,083 --> 01:28:04,917
Most newspaper chains are run
by people who are conservative.
1304
01:28:04,987 --> 01:28:09,083
The public is always ahead of us
about what they're ready for.
1305
01:28:10,326 --> 01:28:12,260
I think.
1306
01:28:12,328 --> 01:28:16,992
And if you do it well,
if you pierce the heart truth...
1307
01:28:17,066 --> 01:28:21,025
of what the public is feeling
and thinking, you have a hit.
1308
01:28:27,643 --> 01:28:30,111
There is this constant desire
on the part of the studios...
1309
01:28:30,179 --> 01:28:32,113
to make characters likable.
1310
01:28:33,983 --> 01:28:38,181
My screen persona
is pretty much non threatening.
1311
01:28:38,254 --> 01:28:42,816
I have never been one to strike fear
into anybody's heart...
1312
01:28:42,892 --> 01:28:47,090
when I enter a room
or first appear on screen.
1313
01:28:47,163 --> 01:28:51,930
Because of it, then, this idea
of a gay man with AlDS is not scary.
1314
01:28:52,001 --> 01:28:54,629
It's something else,
but it doesn't have to be scary.
1315
01:28:54,704 --> 01:28:58,037
You don't have to be threatened
by this man's presence in it...
1316
01:28:58,107 --> 01:29:01,804
part of it because little Tommy Hanks
is playing the role.
1317
01:29:04,480 --> 01:29:06,812
- What about my blood work?
- We're waiting.
1318
01:29:06,883 --> 01:29:10,876
I wanna prep you for a colonoscopy.
We want to take a look inside.
1319
01:29:15,791 --> 01:29:17,281
sounds delightful.
1320
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:20,386
Wait a minute.
Why do you need to do this?
1321
01:29:20,463 --> 01:29:21,691
Who are you?
1322
01:29:21,764 --> 01:29:23,561
Who are you, Doctor...
1323
01:29:23,633 --> 01:29:25,863
- This is my partner.
- Yeah?
1324
01:29:27,270 --> 01:29:30,637
He keeps records of all my hospital
visits. It's nothing personal.
1325
01:29:30,706 --> 01:29:32,765
I'm Dr. Klenstein.
1326
01:29:32,842 --> 01:29:35,868
Listen, you're right. A colonoscopy
is not a pleasant procedure.
1327
01:29:35,945 --> 01:29:40,177
But if the Ks is causing the diarrhea,
we've got to know about that right away.
1328
01:29:41,250 --> 01:29:43,411
But it could be parasites,
an infection.
1329
01:29:43,486 --> 01:29:45,647
A reaction to the AZT.
1330
01:29:45,721 --> 01:29:48,656
All of these are possibilities, but
we've got to perform the colonoscopy.
1331
01:29:48,724 --> 01:29:51,090
He's not going through
some painful procedure...
1332
01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:53,958
until we cancel out
everything else.
1333
01:29:54,030 --> 01:29:55,725
I'm trying to help your partner.
1334
01:29:55,798 --> 01:29:58,858
- You're not in his immediate family.
- I'm not?
1335
01:29:58,935 --> 01:30:01,062
I could have you
removed from the ER.
1336
01:30:01,137 --> 01:30:04,129
Look, he's upset.
He's sorry.
1337
01:30:04,206 --> 01:30:06,436
Don't apologize for me, okay?
1338
01:30:06,509 --> 01:30:08,500
Okay, he's not sorry.
1339
01:30:08,577 --> 01:30:11,944
The idea that there had to be
an audience that wanted to see...
1340
01:30:12,014 --> 01:30:14,812
stories about
being gay in America...
1341
01:30:14,884 --> 01:30:18,820
who wanted to see stories about
a guy who has Al Ds in America...
1342
01:30:18,888 --> 01:30:23,325
is this almost backward understanding
of how it works...
1343
01:30:23,392 --> 01:30:28,227
when you're standing in front of the
box office in your local dodecaplex...
1344
01:30:28,297 --> 01:30:31,664
and you have a choice between...
"What movie should we see?
1345
01:30:31,734 --> 01:30:36,034
We can see the movie about super spies
from outer space, a cow who talks...
1346
01:30:36,105 --> 01:30:40,838
the lawyer who has Al Ds
or the big puppet show.
1347
01:30:40,910 --> 01:30:46,405
Well, I guess the lawyer with AlDS.
That's the one that's most different."
1348
01:30:46,482 --> 01:30:49,417
Philadelphia was terrific,
but I don't think it proves anything.
1349
01:30:49,485 --> 01:30:53,683
It's about a gay hero who dies...
1350
01:30:53,756 --> 01:30:56,486
and who is a tragic figure.
1351
01:30:56,559 --> 01:30:59,790
It remains to be seen whether
Hollywood and the general public...
1352
01:30:59,862 --> 01:31:02,592
will embrace a film
with a gay hero who lives.
1353
01:31:02,665 --> 01:31:04,963
We felt that we would fail...
1354
01:31:05,034 --> 01:31:07,969
if our movie played to people...
1355
01:31:08,037 --> 01:31:12,201
who already think that discrimination
against people with Al Ds is wrong...
1356
01:31:12,274 --> 01:31:14,606
or people who already believe...
1357
01:31:14,677 --> 01:31:17,373
that people shouldn't discriminate
against homosexuals.
1358
01:31:17,446 --> 01:31:21,576
If our movie only played to people
who thought just like we do...
1359
01:31:21,650 --> 01:31:25,984
we would have done nothing
very significant.
1360
01:31:28,924 --> 01:31:33,987
We all end up choosing who we're gonna
be in love with the rest of our lives.
1361
01:31:34,063 --> 01:31:36,497
It seems that's what
we're all searching for.
1362
01:31:36,565 --> 01:31:38,760
Andy found Miguel,
Miguel found Andy.
1363
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:46,975
That's a love that is born
out of everything that goes into...
1364
01:31:47,043 --> 01:31:48,977
two people deciding to be
with each other.
1365
01:31:49,045 --> 01:31:52,481
It's forged through time.
It's a constant... the speed of light.
1366
01:31:53,916 --> 01:31:56,111
That's what the movie is saying.
1367
01:31:56,185 --> 01:31:59,916
It is all the same. Love is spelled
with the same four letters.
1368
01:32:06,395 --> 01:32:09,853
Readings in school were heterosexual.
1369
01:32:09,932 --> 01:32:12,025
Every movie I saw was heterosexual...
1370
01:32:12,101 --> 01:32:15,002
and I had to do this translation.
1371
01:32:15,071 --> 01:32:19,371
I had to translate it to my life,
rather than seeing my life.
1372
01:32:19,442 --> 01:32:21,637
Happy two-week anniversary.
1373
01:32:23,712 --> 01:32:26,306
Oh, Ed, you remembered.
1374
01:32:26,382 --> 01:32:29,317
Which is why,
when people say to me...
1375
01:32:29,385 --> 01:32:32,320
"Your work is not really gay work,
it's universal"...
1376
01:32:32,388 --> 01:32:34,822
I say, "Up yours. It's gay.
1377
01:32:34,890 --> 01:32:40,055
That you can take it and translate it
for your own life is very nice...
1378
01:32:40,129 --> 01:32:43,394
but at last I don't have to
do the translating... you do."
1379
01:32:53,876 --> 01:32:56,504
The long silence
is finally ending.
1380
01:32:57,580 --> 01:32:59,514
New voices have emerged.
1381
01:32:59,582 --> 01:33:02,016
open and unapologetic.
1382
01:33:05,121 --> 01:33:07,316
They tell stories
that have never been told...
1383
01:33:07,389 --> 01:33:09,914
about people who have always been there.
1384
01:33:11,260 --> 01:33:14,957
We're victims of the sexual revolution.
1385
01:33:15,030 --> 01:33:19,330
The previous generation had all the fun,
and we get to pick up the fucking tab.
1386
01:33:21,337 --> 01:33:23,328
Movies are important
and they're dangerous...
1387
01:33:23,405 --> 01:33:27,739
because it's, you know,
we're the keeper of the dreams.
1388
01:33:27,810 --> 01:33:31,746
You go into a little, dark room...
1389
01:33:31,814 --> 01:33:33,247
and become incredibly vulnerable.
1390
01:33:33,315 --> 01:33:36,614
All your perspectives can be challenged.
1391
01:33:36,685 --> 01:33:40,143
You feel things you normally couldn�t.
1392
01:33:40,222 --> 01:33:41,553
It can encourage you...
1393
01:33:41,624 --> 01:33:44,684
to be the protagonist in your own life.
1394
01:33:51,534 --> 01:33:54,970
on the other hand,
it can completely misshape you.
1395
01:33:57,039 --> 01:34:01,772
There's been an incredible era
of censorship...
1396
01:34:01,844 --> 01:34:04,779
of, I wouldn't say positive images
of gays and lesbians.
1397
01:34:04,847 --> 01:34:07,782
I would say real images
of gays and lesbians.
1398
01:34:07,850 --> 01:34:10,148
Think of all the heroic
stories that are real.
1399
01:34:11,754 --> 01:34:15,986
Here gay and lesbian people
have lived...
1400
01:34:16,058 --> 01:34:19,824
braving ostracism, loving, surviving.
1401
01:34:19,895 --> 01:34:23,729
There are so many real heroic stories.
1402
01:34:27,303 --> 01:34:29,294
- Your parents know you're gay?
- Sure.
1403
01:34:29,371 --> 01:34:31,305
Told 'em when I was 16.
1404
01:34:31,373 --> 01:34:33,034
sixteen?
1405
01:34:33,108 --> 01:34:36,373
I had a boyfriend in high school.
They freaked.
1406
01:34:36,445 --> 01:34:38,709
You know, the usual bullshit.
1407
01:34:38,781 --> 01:34:42,217
"How could you choose
this kind of lifestyle, Peter?"
1408
01:34:42,284 --> 01:34:44,309
I said, "Hey, it chose me."
1409
01:34:44,386 --> 01:34:47,378
I want you to get dressed and leave.
1410
01:34:47,456 --> 01:34:50,118
- No, you don't.
- Yes, I do.
1411
01:34:50,192 --> 01:34:51,921
No, you don't.
1412
01:34:53,162 --> 01:34:55,096
I wouldn't know what to do.
1413
01:34:56,599 --> 01:35:00,126
You can start by putting
the "Do Not Disturb" sign on the door.
1414
01:35:01,303 --> 01:35:04,830
Hollywood still runs scared
from people...
1415
01:35:04,907 --> 01:35:08,399
who feel that the very mention
of homosexuality...
1416
01:35:08,477 --> 01:35:12,140
the very display of it,
in some form, on the screen...
1417
01:35:12,214 --> 01:35:14,148
legitimizes the subject.
1418
01:35:14,216 --> 01:35:17,879
Well, of course it does. It shows
that homosexuals are human beings.
1419
01:35:20,055 --> 01:35:23,388
The movies could be making us
laugh a lot more and cry a lot more...
1420
01:35:23,459 --> 01:35:27,589
if they would actually acknowledge
the true diversity of humanity.
1421
01:35:27,663 --> 01:35:31,793
- Not fair. You've been in love a bunch.
- Just once, really.
1422
01:35:31,867 --> 01:35:33,801
Now he's gone, right?
1423
01:35:33,869 --> 01:35:35,302
He's right here.
1424
01:35:43,579 --> 01:35:44,671
I love you.
1425
01:35:44,747 --> 01:35:46,715
I love you too.
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