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Okay, we're recording.
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All right.
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So, maybe the best place to start is,
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how did you get involved in this?
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I was in an argument
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with someone that most people
would consider a hacker.
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I was reading the texts on my phone.
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I guess I said something
that kind of, I have to assume, like,
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insulted his pride
or his ego or something.
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And this person sent the SWAT team
to my house at midnight.
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When I looked out my window,
I noticed it was really bright outside.
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Like, really bright.
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So then I walked out my room
and opened the front door.
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And it... I looked up in the sky
and there was a helicopter.
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The light was so bright that it was...
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It seemed like it was mid-afternoon,
that's how bright the light was.
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And then, shortly after,
cop cars started pulling up, and...
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They were getting out
with shotguns and rifles.
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It was an eye-opening experience,
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that he could do that to my house,
over nothing 'cause it was a hoax call.
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Whatever he said, wasn't true.
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He said that someone was being
held hostage in the closet
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I learned later, that he even pretended
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to be the girl that was allegedly
being held hostage in my closet.
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I wasn't scared for my life.
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I didn't feel like
I was gonna die or anything.
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I just thought it was cool
he could do that.
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You thought it was cool.
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That's what I thought
about that experience.
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Quite frankly, I was thinking,
"Holy shit."
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"This guy actually just sent
the SWAT team to my house."
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"And he's not worried at all
about the consequences."
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This call is from a federal prison.
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Police department search warrant!
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Down! Get on the ground!
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Okay, this is Tyler,
and it's Christmas Day.
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And I just got something on camera
that was... kind of entertaining.
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You're gonna sit there behind
your mother's computer screen...
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You ain't got shit to say, bitch!
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Tell me about how you got into this.
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What's your...
What was your first bomb threat?
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First bomb threat or first time
I sent the SWAT team to someone's house?
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I assume the bomb threats
came first, right?
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Yeah, that was the first thing
I ever tried was evacuating a building.
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The same person who swatted me
sent the bomb squad to a school.
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The first thing that I wanted to try to do
was make headlines like that.
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I tried evacuating a college university.
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That was the first thing
that I tried to evacuate
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and it was on the news the same day.
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At that point, I knew.
"Okay, since that worked, this is legit."
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Like, I could probably do this
to any location in the United States.
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It'll get evacuated
as long as the call sounds believable.
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Wherever I do this is gonna get evacuated.
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I had gone on a spree
of evacuating high schools
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and I was just making it
quite obvious on my Twitter
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that I'm evacuating
numerous schools around the country
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and I have the ability to do this.
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By the way, this is a time in which
there's a lot of school shootings.
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Did that factor into your thinking?
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I wasn't... Nothing to do
with school shootings
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I was saying there's bombs
and they're gonna detonate.
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I never tried to do no school shooting
script or anything like that.
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But people are on edge because there are
many school shootings around the country.
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Did that factor into your thinking?
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Uh, that wasn't...
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That didn't make me think I was gonna have
success in having something evacuated.
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It wasn't a relevant factor in my mind.
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It's the fact that I knew
I was breaking the law
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and I could get away with it.
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And there was nothing
they could do to stop me.
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I could keep doing it, I could literally
talk to law enforcement over the phone,
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lie to them, do something illegal,
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send them somewhere,
have a place evacuated, on the news,
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there was nothing they could do.
Couldn't find me, arrest me.
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There was nothing they could do.
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So I could do that as much as I wanted.
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I was...
I was, like, unstoppable, you could say.
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This is when I had just started.
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I was sending
the bomb squad to the schools
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and having the schools evacuated
to have it on the news.
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And I wanted to evacuate
something kind of bigger.
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Instead of having the news
report on a school that got evacuated,
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why don't I just evacuate
the news studio itself?
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They were actually broadcasting live
on Channel 7 News
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when I made the phone call.
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I thought it would be interesting
to make that phone call
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and watch the TV,
and see what happened on the TV.
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It was my first time ever being in jail.
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Everything was all new to me.
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I wasn't worried or scared.
It was just... It was more like,
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"Okay, well,
my bail was a million dollars."
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"I'm stuck in this situation, so..."
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It just was what it was.
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I was just doing the time
until I ended up getting out.
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I got released from the county jail
after 16 months.
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It was 2:00 a.m.
when I finally stepped foot outside.
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I had nowhere to go.
I didn't have anywhere to stay.
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I didn't know anyone in L.A.
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My grandmother,
she had already told me not to go back.
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But I don't know how to be homeless,
survive in the streets and do all that.
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I went back to the only place that I knew,
which was my house.
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All the doors were locked.
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And I just camped out back all night
until about 6:00 a.m.
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I've lived with her my whole life.
I know what her routine is.
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I just hung out back in the backyard until
she unlocked the back door to do laundry.
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And I just walked in the house.
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She was kinda shocked that I was there.
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And she told me that
I wasn't supposed to be there.
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How much were you making per swat?
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I was charging people depending on
how much of a stranger they were to me
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anywhere from $20 to $50 per swat.
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But, quite frankly,
I enjoyed the thrill of swatting,
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I just enjoyed doing it.
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Having it appear on the news
and bragging about it on Twitter.
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I just, for whatever reason,
enjoyed doing that.
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Hi, what's going on?
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My dad, he's going crazy,
he's got his gun out.
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Yeah, I left some bombs at my high school
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and they're gonna blow up in 15 minutes.
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I'm upset with some people.
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They got me mad,
so now they're going to pay for it.
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And I also have a gun too.
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The FCC, broadcasting the vote
on net neutrality live on Twitter
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had like 160,000 viewers at the time.
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And it was a federal building,
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a little bit more high profile
than some of my other evacuations.
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So I posted on Twitter that
I was gonna evacuate that building.
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I wasn't trying to scare them
out of voting or whatever was going on.
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That didn't concern me. I just knew it was
gonna bring my Twitter a lot of attention.
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And, uh, my Twitter
was quite popular that day.
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Gamers and hackers and people
doing dark criminal stuff online,
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my Twitter was quite popular
in that scene of individuals.
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Whoever it is running this Twitter
is swatting and evacuating everything.
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People are actually ignorant and
arrogant enough to give you their address
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and tell you to come do something.
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This is 911. What's going on?
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My mom and dad, they were arguing
and I shot him in the head.
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And he's not breathing anymore.
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Do you have any weapons on you?
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Yeah, I do. A handgun.
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Okay. What's your address?
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It's 1033 West McCormick Street.
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Hey, front door! Hands!
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- Show your hands!
- He's right there.
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Walk this way!
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- Hello?
- I'm still here, okay?
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Yeah, me too.
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My dad isn't breathing.
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It's kind of giving me anxiety
and making me, like, paranoid.
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Sure.
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That's what happened, I guess.
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The argument can be made
that the police would've never showed up
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if I didn't make the call.
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However, I don't believe
that I'm the only guilty party involved
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in this whole incident,
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considering I was contacted
and almost instructed to swat,
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and taunted to swat that address.
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You could point the finger
at the cop who killed someone,
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at the guy who made the call,
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at the person who provided the address,
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saying, "Look, this is where I live.
Go ahead and swat me!"
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Uh, so it's really debatable.
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It really sucks being connected
to this incident in any fucking way,
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and if I could rewind, I would,
'cause this is all stupid.
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Currently, not so much.
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Did it ever occur to you in all of this
that someone might die?
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No, that never crossed my mind.
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I've never killed anyone,
so I don't know what that feels like,
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but I've also never been responsible
for someone dying.
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But the consequences
of killing someone
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from what I know, are pretty severe.
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You can get life in prison,
you can get the death sentence.
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So,
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being responsible for someone dying,
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like, I was pretty much the sole reason
that the police even went to that house,
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so when I found out someone died
at the house that I sent the SWAT team to,
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I was... I couldn't...
It was a very surreal moment for me.
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Were you worried more about getting...
About the ramifications on you
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or the fact that someone's life
was just taken?
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Well, you...
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I was... It was both.
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I didn't immediately...
feel guilty that someone died.
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I didn't know what to think.
It's almost like life wasn't real anymore.
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Will we be able to get
the name of the officer involved?
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Hello, sir, are you Tyler Barriss?
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