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[tense music]

[TV buzzing]

- As we mentioned,
Donald Trump today called

for more and more military
spending, more troops,

more ships, more
submarines, more planes.

Didn't say how big

the increase in military
spending would be,

but he did throw
out a lot of numbers

in justifying the increase.

[TV buzzing]

- And look at this, almost
600 billion in spending there,

almost as much as
all the other nine

of the top 10
combined, Anderson.

[TV buzzing]

- The pentagon has secured
a $630 billion budget

for next year, even though
it's failed to even account

for the money it's
received since 1996.

A whooping $6.5 trillion
of taxpayer cash

have gone to defense programs,

none of which has been audited
and this a blank budget

has spanked concerns
over political fraud.

[TV buzzing]

- A Reuters investigation
says since 1996,

the Pentagon has spent $8.5
trillion in taxpayer money

that has never
been accounted for.

[TV buzzing]

- One thing I found very
interesting in this report

is that the Pentagon
apparently uses

a standard operating procedure
to enter false numbers

or so-called plugs to cover
lost or missing information

in their accounting
in order to submit

a balanced budget
to the treasury

so they can writing everything.

- And this is probably the
most shocking part of this,

is that they get to the end
of the day and they say,

"Oh, there's there's money
missing. What do we do?

Well, we'll just put a number
in there that says it's there

and we'll sort it out later."

I mean, again, this is the
type of operating practice

that if you did it
in your own business,

if you try to do it with your
own taxes for the government,

they'd haul you off to jail.

[TV buzzing]

- [Reporter] What is the
Pentagon's black budget

being used for?
Weapons? Defense?

This is the story of
one military family's,

extraordinary claims, claims
that could be found true

in a hidden reality.

- I'm Phil Schneider,

I spent 17 years in
Black Budget Programs,

government geologist as
engineer, structural engineer

with aerospace applications,
self-taught metallurgist.

In working with
the Black Projects,

I was involved in something
very controversial,

almost totally unbelievable
to most of you.

I was involved in
building another base

inside of Dulce, New Mexico,
which is Los Alamos laboratory,

on the Southwest part of
the Archer ladle Mesa.

We were in the process of
the early stages of building

we drilled four large
tunnel like holes,

some of them ran two and a
half miles under surface.

Anyway, after we
drilled all four holes,

about a two days to
drill, all four of them.

And when you build
an underground base,

you drill four basic holes and
then you build, called stopes

or across a number
of holes across

and then you use
blasting equipment

and you literally blast out

or tunnel out or deflagarate
or melt the rock out,

the equipment kept
coming up broken.

So we wanted to go down,

we wanted to send
somebody down there,

a human observer or human
observers in this case,

to find out what was going on.

When I saw Green Berets and
Black Berets people in camp

inside of our geologists
camp, I knew something was up,

the gig was up.

In this process, I was
lower down in the basket

of one of these holes
and about from me

to this elderly woman
here in the front,

was sitting a seven
foot tall alien gray,

the stench was worse than
the worst garbage can,

you can imagine.

I didn't waste any time,
I reached for my pistol,

at that time, I was an engineer,

I didn't have time to
carry all a fold roll.

One of these big submachine
guns at all was seized spray

and the yellow root
and the outer perimeter

and inner perimeter
security people carried.

I carried a little Walther PPK
pistol with a nine shot clip.

Plus you're in a, almost
like a space suit environment

and you're reaching for a gun,

it's not the easiest thing to do

and then to pop a clip in it

and start shooting

and I killed two of them.

Yes, they're mortal
and they do die.

However, in the process,
one of them did this,

all I remember is that he
just kind of waved his hand

in front of his chest
and the next thing I know

this blue beam hit me and
just literally opened me up

like a fish.

There was some form
of electrical force

because kind of like being
hit by lightning bolt,

burned all my toenails off of me

and there was a Green Berets
that was right behind me,

but he risked his life, he
shoved me back in the basket

and hit the button
and took me up,

and I wouldn't be alive
talking to you today

if it weren't for him,
I'm forever indebted,

he lost his life.

66 secret service agents,
Green Berets, Black Berets,

crack troops lost their
lives because the government,

our United States government
lied, did not tell us anything

about the alien threat.

There's a war underneath there
and I'm talking dead serious.

[loud bang]

[tense music]

The large alien berets
had been in camp there for

as best as believe possible,
about four or 500 years,

they've been in one of
their internal bases.

And we drilled holes
right on top of that,

all the stinking air, all the
black city air came right out

as soon as one of the
first hole was stopped

and all this suit came up,

well that's when all hell broke
loose, really, all started.

I have a picture of
one of the aliens,

it's been working for the
United States Pentagon

for the last 58 years,
his name is Valliant Four,

he's right here, there is
my father in the background.

This whole place, the ready
room of the US Eldridge,

I'll be like, he's
probably explained,

or maybe even shown
you this picture.

It's a list of some of
the notable people in it,

and they're all the atomic
bomb scientists of the day,

all the time variant
experimentalists of the day,

all the top physicists
of that particular day.

This was in August of 1943.

- [Narrator] Phil Schneider gave

most of his lectures in 1995.

He gained a following speaking
around the United States,

telling people about
his alleged experiences.

Phil claimed that he
personally knew people

who also worked in Black Budget
Programs who were murdered,

and that most of them were
made to look like a suicide.

- 11 of my best friends
in the last 22 years

have been murdered, eight
of them, all suicide.

I finally got window
with one of them,

Portland police is
now involved in one

murdered by suicide [indistinct]

- [Narrator] On
August six, 1993,

two years before his lectures,

one of Phil's best
friends, Ron Rummel

was found dead in the
same McClay park, Oregon.

He'd suffered a fatal
gunshot wound to the head,

and a gun was found nearby.

Police ruled it as suicide,
but Phil and many others

strongly believed
that he was murdered.

Ron Rummel was best known for
publishing "The Alien Digest",

a newsletter filled with
stories and testimonies

regarding the UFO coverup.

[TV buzzing]

- Author Ron Rummel was
about to publish a book,

revealing what he believed

to be the real purpose
of the Star Wars Project

when his body

was found here in McClay
Park in Portland, Oregon.

His death was ruled suicide,

but few agree with that verdict.

- As far as the police
and the FBI are concerned,

it's case closed.

Unfortunately, there's
a shocking thing
that his murderer,

I believe, his murderer is
still out there at large.

- Why is it you're speaking out?

- There've been
enough lives taken

under the premise of suicide
when they were actually

very stable individuals,
they had families

and they had lives
to look forward to.

They had every reason
to live and if there is

some form of
conspiracy out there,

then the more people
that are talking

might end up saving
lives in the long run.

My friend, Ronald Lee Rummel
was an Air Force Officer

as a Silver star winner.

There's a good chance that
when I fly back to Raina,

excuse me, to Vegas,
I have to drive home,

and I left my car down in Vegas,

I'll drive home alone,
I'm scared to hell.

- [Narrator] On
January 17th, 1996,

after not being seen
for at least five days,

Phil Schneider was found
dead in his apartment

by his landlord and a detective

from the Clackamas
County Sheriff's Office.

The autopsy report listed the
cause of death as unknown,

but it was later discovered

that Phil was actually strangled
by his own catheter hose.

Was this a case of
negligence or a cover up?

- I, and there's a number
of you ladies present,

so I won't gory you out, but
Al has seen some of the ones

and there's few other
people that have been

to a few of my other
lecturers and they can attest

that I have been shot,
I've been run off the road,

I've been pushed off the road.

- [Reporter] This is an
account of Phil's death,

a case that reeks of
suspicion, neglect of duty

and disregard for human dignity.

The first official
police report defines

Phil's cause of death to
be from natural causes.

On January 16th, 1996,
Deputy Officer McCleland

is alerted by a suspicious
apartment manager

that he has not
seen Phil for weeks.

Upon first investigation when
entering Phil's apartment,

Officer McCleland finds
Phil's body beside his bed

with his face lying in the
seat of his own wheelchair.

Medical and forensic
examiner, Mr. Coleman,

chooses not to respond
to the crime scene.

At this point, Phil had been
dead for three to four days,

January 17th, his body
is then whisked away

to a funeral home.

January 18th, Mr. Took
calls from the funeral home

to alert the police that he
has found a catheter cord

wrapped around Phil's neck.

This leads to the starting
of detective Haggens'

investigation on the same day.

Haggens seems to be
the only one interested

in following up
this case honestly.

He calls medical examiner
Coleman and Sergeant Joyce,

who both elect not to respond.

Upon further investigation
while interrogating

Deputy McCleland, the deputy
recalls the catheter cord

being near Phil's neck at
the scene of the crime.

It is concluded in this
report that the only person

who could have been
around Phil at this time

was a woman from the Oregon
Senior and Disabled Services.

Other things recovered from
the scene of the investigation

were seven pill medications.

Detectives, Harris, and
Kennel are then assigned

to the case,

an autopsy is to be held by
Dr. Gunson on January 19th.

This was requested as well
by Cynthia, Phil's late wife.

The autopsy report surmises
Phil's cause of death

by his fixation,
ruled a suicide.

Recovered stomach material
showed no signs of pills.

Furthermore, blood and urine

are placed on a
three month hold,

only to be reported as
lost when Cynthia calls,

after the given time has passed.

The catheter cord is
described as being wrapped

around the neck once

and then tied from
the front very tight.

Now you must ask yourself,
how can Phil be found dead

via strangulation with
his face in the seat

of his own wheelchair?

Is this something that
he could do himself?

Without taking any form
of medical assistance

in order to sedate?

What do we have here?

Is this a clean cut
case of suicide,

or could there
likely be foul play?

Could this be a case
of murder by suicide?

This case was determined
on January 19th

as death by suicide,
which is further indicated

on his death certificate.

But, something of even more
suspicion appears in this case.

In the Oregonian obituaries,
a statement has given,

not by Cynthia, that
he died from a stroke.

- [Lee] So what happened here?

- Teddy gets them samples
of Phil, my dad and my mom,

they were suddenly missing,
mysteriously missing.

- [Lee] And what did they say?

They were just as
surprised as you were?

- [Marie] Yeah, "Oh, we
don't have those samples."

- [Lee] It's like they
never did, or they just

- Yeah. - [Lee] They just...

Didn't even know?

- [Marie] They said, "We'll
hold them for a year.",

and mom came back 11
months, before the due date,

you know, there
was one month until

they would not hold them anymore

and they suddenly didn't
have them anymore, yeah.

- Look, let's get
right down to it.

When you're dealing with
something of that magnitude,

what it appears to be,
that is the presence

of a variety of
non-humans here on earth

that are here for
some sort of agenda

and everything else that
goes along with that,

including possible collaboration

by various human groups within,

this is obviously incredibly
explosive material.

And so it goes without saying,

that the intelligence agencies,
the deep black agencies

[indistinct] groups that
are involved in this

would need to keep this
as quiet as possible,

and they have to, for
their own preservation.

So in other words,
secret becomes the
ultimate goal for this

and that means secrecy
in theory, forever,

forever, secrecy forever.

If there are leaks that are
going to come out afterwards,

you have to find a way
to disable those leaks,

either by disabling
the information

or the individual behind it,

doesn't have to
be by killing them

it could be by ruining
their reputation,

by discrediting them
in one way or another,

that's just as good.

Certainly, one the
thing that we know

over the last 60, 70 years,
that assassination techniques

have become very,
very sophisticated,
very sophisticated.

They are suiciding someone,
and that is killing them,

and making it be a suicide.

This is widespread, it's been
widespread for many years,

During the days of the Cold War,

the KGB was very good at this.

To this day, you're not
gonna get the CIA to admit,

but we know that this happened.

It happened in the case of
a fellow named Frank Olson

in the early 1950s and when
in a biological warfare expert

who was given LSD without
knowledge by a CIA friend.

Long story short, he
was taken to large hotel

in New York city
to the tenth floor

and was thrown out the window.

They made it seem
like a suicide,

there was no suicide,
Olson was killed

because he'd become
a security risk.

This is an old game.

So back to our scenario here
of multiple non human groups,

with possible human alien
interaction going on.

This is a secret
that has to be kept

from their point of view

and anyone who
threatens that secrecy

has gotta be [indistinct]

whether by discrediting
that person

or [indistinct],
by killing them.

- [Narrator] Upon examination,
it seems easy to accept

the theory that Phil was
a victim of homicide,

but what does that
mean for his claims

of aliens living underground?

Years after Schneider's death,

other claims of a
joint human-alien base

underneath Dulce, New Mexico
are surfacing left and right.

The book "UFO Highway"
by Anthony Sanchez

is essentially
transcripts of interviews

with a person only
known as Colonel X,

who supposedly worked
inside this facility

and is known to believe
that Phil Schneider

was really there.

Shows like History
Channel's "UFO Hunters"

have even visited the
area, looking for clues.

- It's a 14-mile
underground tunnel

that goes under
that mountain there.

- [Man] Yes.

- [Narrator] Even Jesse
Ventura's "Conspiracy Theory"

on True TV paid a visit
to the alleged location

of the Dulce Base.

- They have it
pretty well secured.

- Do they?

- Yeah, the government.

- [Narrator] Some other
pretty credible sources

for alien activity
in the Archuleta Mesa

include the high number
of Apache Native Americans

who have some pretty
insane stories

of strange happenings
in the area.

[TV buzzing]

- Rumor has it there is a
secret base hidden underneath

the Archuleta Mesa here.

The mountain overlooks Dulce,

some people in town say
the base is run by aliens,

working with our
federal government

to conduct mind control
and genetic experiments.

Do you believe that?

- Yeah, well a whole bunch of
people have seen it, you know.

- The ground opened up,
steam coming out of it.

- Geri Julian says
she had her first

extra terrestrial encounter
right here on her Dulce ranch

about 40 years ago.

- It was huge, I just saw
the bottom of it, you know.

It was flat like this.

[quick whooshing]

- [Reporter] Many
of her neighbors

claim similar strange sightings.

- Fat in the middle and the
kinda like rounded on the sides.

You're speechless, you know,

you just don't
know what to think.

- [Reporter] Sometime in the
seventies, things changed,

that's when cows started
turning up mutilated.

- It just cut out in
between the legs right here,

we seen one.

- All I know it's not a
predator that's doing it,

someone's doing it.

- Local police never
definitively said
who's to blame,

locals say it has to be
something out of this world,

they say, they know
it sounds crazy.

- I'll submit to a lie
detector test or anything.

- [Narrator] To be
fair, at this point,

we have to also play
devil's advocate

with Phil Schneider's
extraordinary claims.

It is entirely possible
that he simply heard

about the tales of UFO
and underground bases

and the Archuleta Mesa area
and made up his own story

based on those stories.

In order to at least make
an attempt at finding out

if he was telling
the truth or not?

We must first know who
Phil Schneider was.

- [Cynthia] I kind
of knew about Phillip

I mean, I had met him
through the Oregon Agate

and mineral Society
in Portland, Oregon.

I had been a past
president of the society,

had about five hundred members.

So it's a large group of
people who came together

every other week to
study rocks and minerals.

- [Narrator] What year was this?

- [Cynthia] 1985.

Phillip grew up in a
Navy Army Force family

'cause he was all over,
places with his dad.

So let's see, while he was young

I think they also
went to London,

it was in the early 50s, 1950s.

So he was in London and
I think that's when Oscar

was working in NATO.

He was [indistinct]
armed force work in NATO.

But he kind of knew
that his dad was doing

a lot of hot secret
things later on in life.

- I'd also like to mentioned
something about my father.

My father was a U-boat
captain in Hilter's Navy,

he was captured by the French,

turned over to Third
Army, the US Third Army

and then US Third Army
turned him over to the Navy.

And he was a master machinist,

that's not a journeyman,

a master means they can take a
block of metal and make a gun

or a watch or some other
finance instrument,

he was a master machinist,
he later became an MD doctor

and part of the
Aerospace Medicine Group

of the United States Navy.

Was instrumental in helping
build the USS Nautilus

and its predecessor,
The Enterprise,

the first nuclear
powered aircraft carrier

and other ships like it.

- [Reporter] Phil's father
Oscar Auto Schneider

was also involved in government
secrecy and black projects.

In the 1990s, during Phil
Schneider's lecture tour

across the United States,

he was known to carry many
documents and pictures,

providing evidence
to certain testimony

about controversial subjects
he would be discussing.

Furthermore, there
were four documents

which Phil carried with
him on lecture tour.

These documents were allegedly
owned by Oscar Schneider

while he was in office working
for the United States Navy

in the 1950s.

During this time,

the rumored Philadelphia
experiment took place.

And perhaps these documents
are the smoking gun

that prove, in fact,
the Philadelphia
experiment did occur.

The first document,
details and autopsy report

on one of the crew members from
the Philadelphia experiment.

- [Cynthia] One of the
letters that Oscar wrote

about the autopsy

of the Philadelphia experiment
crew member [indistinct]

he was pulling out of their...

Back of their eyes and
their arms, their legs

with little things that
looked like transistors,

it's exactly what they were,

they were little surveillance
items that were placed

into the bodies of
the Philadelphia
experiment crew members.

- [Reporter] In this letter,
it is addressed to Lieutenant

Nathan F. Twining.

Oscar seems to
report on the vessel,

which Twining staff
couldn't find.

Furthermore, it includes an
order from J Edgar Horver

to have all personnel undergo
psychological testing.

The third letter
addresses Edward Condon.

Edward Condon is well
known for his involvement,

explaining away
all UFO phenomenon

as simply optical illusions.

However, in this letter,
Oscar seems to be reporting

to Edward that
seven Philadelphia
project experiencers

had escaped from a
psych ward that Oscar

was holding and testing them at.

He goes on to say that J. Edgar

had declared the
incident classified as
1-A Prime Directive,

possibly meaning
something in regards

to a top secret
security clearance,

finishing this letter
with a reference

to Nikola Tesla's
spatial analyzer.

This is significant
because Nikola Tesla

has always been known to
be involved with the design

of the machine,
which would create

the fabled Philadelphia
experiments
invisible technology.

Condon, having been
known most notoriously

as the leading UFO
debunker of his time,

paved the way for
secrecy and coverups

in this realm that
we study today.

The fourth and final letter,
Oscar Schneider writes again

"In consideration
of the latent facts,

"considering the fate of the
U.S.S Farrenseth, DE-173,

"all ships, personnel
and material

"must be quarantined absolute

"until further
notice, no exceptions.

"An onsite Naval inspection
is ordered forthwith

"as Bureau of Ships
reticent requirements

"in section 93-A, please
include DE-173 ships' log

"to Admiral Roscoe
Hillenkolte, USN.

"Consider them and all events
of nature above Secret."

C class ARH-9, Project Blue Sky,

Oscar Schneider, Captain U.S.N.

- [Narrator] At this point, it
appears that Phil Schneider's

father, Oscar, was
very likely involved

in classified
operations that involve

top secret technologies.

But what about his son, Phil?

What do we really
know about his work?

- [Cynthia] I will say late
sixties, he started his work

and that I have social
security records

under a wrong social
security number

and I think since is how
the black cops get away

with a lot of things,

'cause they put you under the
wrong social security number

so you can't prove your
work history and stuff,

but I can prove that under the
wrong social security number

he worked for Morrison
Knudsen, which is a contractor,

so civilian contractor that
worked for the army or the Navy.

He did some work at
Trojan Nuclear after that.

By the early 1980s, he
was applying for SSI,

so I know by the early
1980s, his career is done.

He's still injured

that he cannot do any
more work and his memory

is totally lost as to
what he did before.

It wasn't till
after we got married

and he got good medical care

and stopped taking
the medications

he was taking when
I first met him

that he's started to
remember all of the things

that are now on the internet.

- [Cynthia] Hello Marie.

- Hi.

- Want a Spark?

- [Cynthia] Lots of
food and soft drinks.

- There you go.

- [Darcy] So, tell me, when
did Phil start telling you

about his past and his work?

- It was soon after he
kept saying that he had

to take [indistinct]
to prevent seizures.

But I noticed when
he took [indistinct],

he would have a
seizure [laughing].

it was the other way round,

it was actually killing him.

And it was disrupting
him mostly physically,

so much that he didn't
have much of a memory

of anything in his past.

And then after we were married,

he got really good medical care,

it slowly started to come back.

I mean, it was like, he
would even say to me,

"Tia, I hope you don't
take like I'm lying

because I'm just
remembering this.

But wow, these things
start coming out

and I just suddenly remember
what's really happened."

But that's really
when it started.

When Oscar died, it
might've been '94,

so I put down into his
basement, found the file cabinet

full of stuff that
was just unbelievable.

And he showed me most of them.

I mean, I saw the
original envelopes

with original paperwork
that had the drawings on it.

I saw the original photographs
with the stamp from the back

from the Navy.

I mean, it wasn't all real
stuff, this was not faked.

He shared so much with me

though we were
divorce at the time.

So I saw all this stuff that
came out of the file cabinet,

but he'd been talking
to Ron about it a lot.

Thy were doing a little alien
fantasy, a little digest,

and then his dad died and
he found all the stuff

in the basement.

Well, Ron was murdered
that same year

and that infuriated.

As Phillip grew up, he
went to Lincoln High School

here in Portland 'cause I
have a transcript of his

Senior High School.

So that was pretty normal
except it does indicate

on that transcript that
he had an IQ of 163.

Now, I know Phil told me
that before he had his

medical issues, he could
speak 11 languages.

And I believed that
because he would suddenly,

in the middle of the night,
we were sleeping together,

he suddenly start rambling
off different languages.

So this was although,
in his sleep,

he consciously couldn't remember

how to speak those languages,
but in asleep unconsciously,

he could still
connect with some.

[laughing]

- So this is the new one.

Looking good.

Now, down side to the left,
you can see two big clowns.

[laughing]

[TV buzzing]

[bright music]

[TV buzzing]

[chattering]

- [Cynthia] Phillip.

- Yeah.

- [Kid] I can find
you, I gotcha.

[mimicing a roar]

- Nothing.

- First of all, the idea
of underground [indistinct]

and underground civilizations,

actually, this is a very
old idea in human history.

Going back in thousands
of years you've got

ancient prides around the world,

that have made these
claims that we would say

is in their myths, but that
there are secret caverns,

secret races, secret tribes
that exist under the ground.

And really when one
talks about, for example,

Hollow Earth
theory, that's a lot

of what we're
talking about here.

Not all Hollow Earth theorists
say that the earth is hollow.

A lot of them will say that
there are just substantial

cartons under the ground where

there are civilizations
that are down here.

So that's an old idea,

you get it in a lot
of Asian European,

I think like the Germans
have a tradition,

and native Americans
have this tradition.

The Tibetans may have the
most extensive tradition

of this for all I know.

South America traditional
tribes had this as well.

So the idea in the
Tibetans mission,

from what I had
understood about it

is that there are
different races below

the surface of the
earth, including reptoid

or [indistinct] races that are
supposedly from other worlds,

I'm not making this up.

So that by itself is
interesting and you might ask,

why do all of these
disparate civilizations had

these types of ideas?

And I don't have
the answer to that,

but I can tell, that's
an old, old idea.

- [Narrator] Dolan
goes on to explain

the supposed connection
between the Nazis

and Tibetan Hollow
Earth theories.

- And we really get
into the 20th century

where the Nazis and
their predecessors,

we just call them Thule Society,

which was a of a mystical
set that the Nazis

really drew a lot out of in
forming our own ideology.

The Thule Society was very
interested in Tibet nets,

about openings into the earth,

This idea of the
underground tunnels,

aces, crisscrossing the world

and so this was a Tibetan idea.

We have to assume that
the Nazis themselves

were familiar with
this idea as well.

- [Richard] There's no
question that the secret

underground base do
exist and by the way,

it's not only the military
of the United States

or of other countries, who
are making things underground

and also under sea facilities,

other agencies and
organizations do it as well.

All that is needed is a
requisite well funded,

expert personnel and technology.

In the early to
mid 20th century,

you had the French, of course,

who constructed the so
called Marginot Line

in Eastern France to guard
against German invasion

in World War II.

It was a military civil
engineering organization

in the third Reich called
the Todt organization

and it was named
after Fritz Todt.

Fritz Todt was a
brilliant civil engineer,

he was the father of the
German Autobahn system.

During the world war
II period, Adolf Hitler

asked Fritz Todt to lend
his engineering expertise

to the military program
of the Third Reich,

which he did.

He established an
engineering agency,

which was called the
Todt Organization.

Now, Fritz Todt died in a
[indistinct] crash in 1942.

And one of his deputies
named Xaver Dorsch

took over control of the agency,

identified a couple of project
Paperclip memos from 1947

that specifically requested
Xaver Dorsch, by name,

to be brought to the
United States to work

on the United States military's

underground plant
construction program.

The American military
certainly was well aware

of who Xaver Dorsch
was and his expertise.

In his day, he was probably
the preop like authority

on underground
based construction,

whether in Germany or
in the United States.

[TV buzzing]

- Ruins have been
uncovered in Argentina,

but they're not from an
ancient civilization.

They're reportedly connected
with the Nazi regime.

According to an article
in the New Zealand Herald,

a secret bunker was
found, which appears

to have been planned for
members of the Nazi party

to use a hideout
after losing the war

and fleeing to South America.

- [Richard] But I
had people tell me

that some of the bases are as
deep as 10, 12, 14 miles down.

- [Darcy] Okay, so
they're one mile deep,

how would they make that?

Like you'd say possibly
a piece of technology

that you came across
in documents you
were researching or?

- [Richard] Oh yes, oh yes.

60s, that's at least the 1950s,

the mining and civil
engineering industries

had that capability
to sink a major shaft

straight down one,
even two miles or more

and then to top out from
the bottom of the shaft,

whether for mine purposes or
for anchoring tall complexes.

Well, the most common
form is to use a very hard

cutting heads of a tone of
wide machines that rotate

would be like a huge
version of the drills.

You could just hit
the petroleum industry

and natural gas industry

to drill very deep
underground boreholes.

- [Darcy] I heard
theories of also

mutual power drills?

- [Richard] Yes, I
cited this technology,

my first book, these
are called subterranean.

Subterraneans are
nuclear powered,

they use a small
fishing nuclear reactor.

The nuclear reactor is
staying within the machine,

the research and
design was done at

[indistinct] National
Laboratories back
in the 20th century.

And there were some patterns
granted to the research team,

Los Alamos if they
audit and use,

they are being used, planned
destinely in great secrecy.

- [Darcy] Could you
also, I mean lense

to the audience,
some examples of

real underground facilities.

- [Richard] The most
famous one would be

under Cheyenne
mountain in Colorado,

which used to be [indistinct]
the headquarters,

Now it's a backup
[indistinct] base,

but that'd be the famous one

I guess it's appeared
in many movies,

it's large, it's
sophisticated, it's deep.

Then you also have the
famoous FEMA underground base

BD Mountain Weather
in Northern Virginia.

It's run by FEMA, the Federal
Emergency Management Agency.

It's also quite deep,
sophisticated, large

this is also called
site-R complex.

That is the [indistinct]
alternate command center,

which is underground
on the border between

Maryland and Pennsylvania.

Then of course you have the
well known A51 facility,

there's been quite
a lot of underground

tumbling excavation, done there.

Many people have spoken
about facilities out there.

[TV buzzing]

- Yes, sir.
- Let's go back in there

the so called area A51 because

in people's minds, would you
say I can't talk about it

because it's
classified? conjures up.

Oh, there it is,
there's the coverup.

Can you give us any hint

without violating any sense
of a confidential nature?

What kinds of things
might be happening?

- Sir, I cannot forgive
me, I just do not know.

- [Reporter] Is there anyone
in the air force, that can?

- I'm gonna have to defer
that to public affairs.

It's outside of my
area of expertise.

[TV buzzing]
- Do you believe in UFO's?

- [Reporter] First window sir.

- [Reporter] Why not?

- Ma'am, I have no reason to
believe that they're real.

- And then there are other
ones that are perhaps

less well known to the
NSA and Laurel, Maryland,

which is at Fort Meade, Fort
Meade is an Army facility,

but to NSA is actually
the major activity there.

And there are little
acres, multiple acres

of supercomputers beneath fort B

that go down and down and down.

I'm even told 20
levels, maybe more.

And then, Los Alamos National
Lab in Northern New Mexico.

Then you have, Camp
David in Maryland

and many people are
familiar with Camp David,

as United States, presidential
retreat with the presence

of an helicopter too
for rest and relaxation.

But [indistinct] say

there is a massive
underground facility that

spreads out for
miles and the run up

to the first board
against the Iraq Bechtel

built three deeply
[indistinct], sophisticated

underground facilities
in Saudi Arabia.

They were years during
the war [indistinct],

the first war storming,
Norman Schwarzkopf,

who was the American
military commander.

Despite, most of that were
underground at Saudi Arabia

and the Chinese, it
has come to light

that the Chinese have
constructed something like

3000 miles of underground tiles

to house their nuclear arsenal.

- [Darcy] What is, what's
the benefit of building

all of these bases in
and around the world?

What is it for?

Is it for, keeping things secret

and what are they
keeping secret?

Is it for keeping things
away from the public?

Is it also for
protection in some way?

Could you elaborate on that?

- [Richard] Yes, to all of that,

all of those are considerations.

The motivation for
going deep, underground

and or deep under sea

is often driven by concerns
of security and secrecy,

weapons production, and
storage happens underground,

whether for nuclear
weapons or other kinds

this has been going on ever
since the world war II period.

[TV buzzing]

[man troop commanding]

- [Narrator] It looks
almost like a scene

from an action movie,

dozens of ballistic
missile, launching systems

inside a gigantic cave.

But the video shows
Iran's missile program

is very real and very
big as the head of

the elite revolutionary guards
aerospace division says,

"The missiles and various
ranges are mounted on launchers

"in all bases and are
ready to be launched."

He told an Iranian
state TV reporter

and added that is if
enemies make a mistake.

[Tv buzzing]

- You also have scientific
research facilities underground.

The CERN supercollider

on the border of Switzerland
and France would be

a good example that one is
very much publicly known

and discussed, there are other

undergraduate
research facilities,

including that Area
51 and elsewhere

that operate much more
out of the public eye.

There are many rumors

about clandestine
extraterrestrial facilitates

both underground and under sea,

and a growing number
of people have come

forward over the years
with anecdotal accounts

of having seen
and, or been taken

into such facilities by
a variety of reasons,

both by extraterrestrials
and also by shadow elements

of the United States military
by clandestine units,

I do take these
stories seriously,

I do believe that these types
of Philips facilities exist.

What are the main reasons
that they would be here

and underground again
for secrecy, for security

and for purposes
of communication,

command and control.

The same reasons that the
United States military

builds underground bases.

- [Narrator] Secrecy, how
corporations and military

rule the underworld.

- [Richard] I spent
years going through

aims of a technical
documentation,

military industrial complex

and Morrison-Knudsev
is one of those

that would pop up in
the bibliographies,

companies like Parsons I
got off quite a dockless

Kiewit, Black $ Veacth,
of course you have

two military agencies, the
Army Corps of Engineers,

which is definitely
involved in constructing

underground bases and tunnels.

It has been for more
than half a century.

You also have the
US Navy Seabees

who also work in underground
and under sea construction.

And those would be the leap
to the lead military agencies.

But there are large
corporations that are involved.

The Bechtel Corporation is one

then you have the tunnel
boring machine companies,

such as the Robbins company,

a number of these companies,
which for decades,

have worked very
closely with not only

the United States
military agencies, but
also other agencies

in construction of underground
facilities and tunnels.

These are massive undertakings.

And to do that, you need
to have large organizations

with the bureaucratic and
administrative structure,

that's capable of supporting
projects like this.

You won't easily find this
stuff on the internet.

I've found these
documents by going

to Federal Document Repositories

at major university libraries
in the United States,

and also to Federal Agency
Document Repositories.

With these corporations,

it's like a shell game
and it's harder and harder

to find out who is
working for whom

and what they're doing
and under what conditions.

The so-called [indistinct],

is now owned by something
called URS as of 2007.

So you see it makes it hard
to follow what they're doing

and to follow the money
and the contracts,

because the names and
the corporate alliances

are constantly changing
at a state of [indistinct]

very high level.

- No, these megabases
are gobbling up

our gross national product.

Right now we're spending 28%
of the gross national product

on building underground
bases solely.

That doesn't count for
the defense budget,

that doesn't count for
the spare parts budget

and the black budget
is dead, dead wrong.

It sidesteps the
United States Congress

and its constitution
of its people and says,

"You're a bunch of morons,
you don't need to know."

Now all this alien thing is
fine, except for one thing,

the alien takeover
is a serious threat,

kept totally out of the
public view, off the surface,

I'm sure the underground
bases without question,

are being used as form a
place to house alien takeover.

Alien takeover means
the implementation

of a one-world government,

direct opposite of
constitutional law,

direct opposite of
freedom of choice,

freedom of religion, and other
freedoms that go with it,

right to bear arms.

If we allow another
election to go by

with the same ilk
in the white house,

we have only ourselves to blame.

- [Richard] All
questions that arise is

whether or not there
is the legendary,

much talk about a deal

between given government groups

and non-humans, the
human alien deal.

You know, all I can
say is quite is that

anything is possible,

I do believe that there are

a number of other
beings that are here.

So if that is possible,

isn't impossible as such
a deal of that or more.

For example, what would
the deal have included?

It could have included,

we humans getting
certain technologies

and knowledge from them

in exchange for them having

the ability to do certain
things in our society,

without us giving them
us them housing for,

for them having a
permanent base somewhere,

maybe in Nevada or for
them every now and then

taking a human being
to examine them

and then returning them.

This is the claim of
the human alien deal

and claim furthermore is that

we learned during the
seventies and eighties,

that they were not
abiding by their agreement

that they were taking
humans, not telling us,

not telling even the
government and so forth.

[indistinct] I have any
ideas this is true or not,

I have no idea.

What I would say is that

it would very much
be in the interest

of a visiting race
to make a deal,

with the US government, why not?

Sure they might be
able to wipe us out

if they felt like it,

but maybe that's too much
of a hassle for them.

Maybe it's just a lot easier
to deal with the local

government panel.

And so it would make sense

to make an arrangement with
the local storms, strongman,

which would be the US
military and US government

and if you really want to get

some terranean
here, so to speak,

there would be a
lot of [indistinct]

from a visiting race
of extraterrestrials

to exploit earth
and humanity to max.

You know, a lot of folks
in this field believe

that any visiting ET rates
would be by their nature

be peaceful and non-violent,
I never agreed with this,

I don't understand at all why

just because you have
better technology

then that means you're nicer.

You could be just
as exploitative,

look at human history.

we've got great
technology these days,

it doesn't mean we're
any less exploitative

than people who were
financing years ago.

Well, look, if you
come from someplace,

that's not here really
makes sense, doesn't it?

To create a secure
environment for yourself,

probably under the ground,
it's the best place to be.

All the features of planet earth

are suitable for human beings.

They may not be as suitable

for some other type
of species that

didn't come from here.

When I go through the
various witness reports,

alleged reports and encounters
that people have had

with these other entities,

They don't...

It reinforces my opinion

that we are dealing
with multiple groups.

So at this point in the game,

my working assumption is
that humanity right now

is interacting really
on covert basis

with multiple, highly
intelligent non-human groups,

than are here and
they're here for purposes

that might very well
be quite varied.

It's not necessarily the case
that they all have one agenda.

Now, some of these groups,

some of these
entities, according to,

again, witness accounts are
like the prototypical graves.

That is the short human
eyed, large black eyes

they have, another type of,

not even that's been
discussed are reptoid types

that is large kind
of intimidating
reptilian creatures.

And yet another type
that's been recorded

are what we might call a mantle

or insectoid type creatures
all, this is bizarre.

But yet these reports
are consistent

across many, many years in
many different types of people,

some who are utterly ignorant

of the lore around the
literature about this,

and they still report
these, ordinary people.

So that gives me pause,

that makes me really wonder

if these reports are consistent

with some of the
more ancient myths

that people have reported
back in earlier times.

- As for the murder,
was the fact, that

Cynthia went to a few
psychics and asked them,

you know, well, it
shouldn't ask them,

but she, she was
looking to find out

anything about that murder.

And I think

she went to like three or
four different psychics,

and they told her that he
was killed by several people.

one was a woman and there were,

like two to four men involved.

I'm gonna go ahead and say,
I think that's all we know.

There's documents out there,
they're in the documentary.

There's more documents
that he toured with,

tons, pictures of UFO's
flying away from Bikini Atoll.

When the military was testing

their first nuclear
bombs out there,

his father was involved
in all this stuff.

And when his father died

right around the time that he
started going on lecture tour,

Phil picked up a lot
of these documents

from his father's
basement office.

And Cynthia Schneider even
told me this, Cynthia Fair.

And, basically that's one
of the sort of smoking guns

to the whole phenomenon is that

there was somebody
that wouldn't come out

and talk about this
subject themselves,

which was Oscar Schneider,

but his son was would.

- [Narrator] Down and then
you had guys like this

that they were
building, you look at

the tea party,

the political party that

really it was born out
of a grassroots movement

and you look at the
way that these people,

they saw stuff happening
and the American public,

sort of political forum and
they were sick and tired of it.

And they formed the
tea party as a group,

and they became really
powerful and now

they have seats in Congress
and everything, but,

I guess what I'm
trying to say is

Phil Schneider
and William Cooper

were both forming these sort
of grassroots movements,

these large groups of people
that were listening to them

all over the United States.

And these were people that were

not necessarily looking
for the old calls.

There were sometimes
just average Joes

that were, tired of what
they were being told

by the government or by
the mainstream media.

And they wanted to
find something fresh

and find something that

maybe connected better
with what they may

believe to be true,

what was really going
on around the world.

And I think that's
the real threat

and back then it was a real
threat to the powers that be

because you had a pretty stable
system of disinformation,

infiltrating the
minds of the people

and keeping the paradigm
nice and stable.

But then you had people like

Phil Schneider and William
Cooper going on tour

around the US and just
saying, this is bullshit.

You're all living
a lie, wake up.

- This world we live
in is not simple

and there's all kinds
of stuff out there

that don't have
simple explanations

and this story
really attracted me.

It really attracted Lee,
we've been good friends

ever since we got attracted
to the story and...

- I think the reason
why Darcy and I

really gravitated
towards Phil is because

for two reasons, one,

it's probably the
most bold claim

related to the UFO
phenomenon I've ever heard,

the fact that there's
aliens underground.

And the fact that this guy
was not only encounter them,

but was it a battle with them

and they wounded him in
this fight that broke out.

That is probably the
boldest claim I've ever seen

related to the UFO phenomenon.

So that's the reason why I think

we became obsessed
with this guy,

and also he's kind
of undebunked.

You know there's a lot
of people on YouTube

and on the internet that
really kind of believe him.

And I thought that
was also interesting

because it was kind
of like this thing

where maybe we never will know

if he was telling
the truth or not,

but it's interesting

because he was a
higher math genius.

I think he had like an
IQ of 140 in high school,

Darcy was that accurate?

- [Darcy] Yeah it
was very, very high.

- 162, yeah, high IQ,
this wasn't just some guy

that told the story.

He was a guy with a
really rich background,

really interesting
history, he worked on,

we have documents in the
documentary of his work history

and you can see that he
worked for Morrison Knudsen

and, definitely was working

for these big
military contractors.

So he's not just some
guy like a Bob Lasar,

who has no credentials
and has this,

which by the way, I'm
not knocking Bob Lasar.

I didn't mean it like
that I love Bob too.

I'm just saying
- Okay.

Phil is a guy where we can
actually prove his work history.

- Yeah.

- So that, that adds
some credibility

that is kind of rare with
these type of people.

- [Narrator] Deep
underground military bases,

extra terrestrials living
beneath earth surface,

a race that might not even
be from another planet,

but rather one that
has existed here

in the shadows throughout
mankind's entire development,

is this the biggest
coverup in our history

or just another
conspiracy theory?

In 2017, we still have
no definitive proof

that any of these
claims are true,

which is all the more reason

why this just might be

one of the greatest
journalistic responsibilities

of our time.

- And I'm not asking you
to believe me in total.

I am asking you to
seriously do enough homework

that you can go out in
through the public record,

through the
congressional records,

find out who's voting for
what and go from there.

Do your own program,
do your own agenda

and do your own speaking out

and if enough of us to do this,

there is some saving grace

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