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Previously on "Mr. Mercedes"...
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Montez: Do you want to explain
how he can walk
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after laying vegetative
for over a year?
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I want a lawyer.
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What did you do to me?
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The drug you're on
is called Cerebellin.
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I feel different.
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You'll need another dose
within three days.
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Or...?
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You'll weaken
a-and most likely die.
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We're here to see Assistant
District Attorney Montez.
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It's Hartsfield.
Put your hands up!
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Get on the ground!
Put your hands up!
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Lou, you might
not be safe here.
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You think he's gonna
come looking for me?
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Guys, look.Anchor Jeanine:
...walked in voluntarily
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and surrendered himself
without incident.
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What?
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He's an affront to humanity.
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He's got to be stopped.
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Not your job anymore.
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I'm told you don't deny crimping
Brady Hartsfield's oxygen line.
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Is that true?
-Do I need a lawyer?
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Brady Hartsfield entered
the hospital as a psychopath.
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He now represents
something else
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to every single one of us --
hope.
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Brady:
Greetings, Detective.
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This is surreal.
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Well...
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I deserve to be here,
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and you probably do
since you tried to kill me,
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but...
in jail together?
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If I tried to kill you,
you'd be dead.
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I guess.
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This is fucked.
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-Never mind.
-The guy's already confessed.
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Why risk even a whiff
of prosecutorial misconduct --
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This is not
prosecutorial misconduct,
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and a confession from that fuck
doesn't mean shit.
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Why not?
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Because he's gonna be
hiding behind insanity.
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He was already laying the pipe
when we questioned him.
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Hodges knows how to push
all the right buttons
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to get the real
Brady Hartsfield to show up.
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I am sorry.
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No doubt.
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I mean it.
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The idea...
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...I could be the kind
of person who would...
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Clearly I was
missing a chip.
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The main thing --
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I'm better now.
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That's the plan, is it?
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Chip found, all better.
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You know,
you were partly to blame
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for the subsequent mayhem.
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Was I now?
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You called me a fraud,
a nothing.
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You -- You accused me
of fucking my mother.
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It hit a nerve.
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You know,
I sometimes wonder...
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would Janey Patterson
still be alive
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if you hadn't
provoked me so?
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Provoked the old me,
I should say.
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The chipless you.
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Do you want a face-to-face,
Hartsfield?
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Let's do it.
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Could you zoom in
there please, Nancy?
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I don't like this.
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I do not like this.
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The, uh --
The things I did,
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I understand your motives
in wanting to bring me down.
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Saying the right things.
Good for you.
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I've apologized.
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I've condemned the person I was.
I've denounced him.
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We're on
the same side now.
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No hard feelings.
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You really expect me
to shake that thing?
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I'm -- I'm sure
you'd rather kill me,
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but that would
make you lawless,
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and we both know
you're not that.
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You so cherish
your moral superiority.
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That always pissed me off,
you should know.
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Never my intent to upset.
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You know, the old me --
Mr. Chipless --
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he would've delighted
in all of this --
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bringing you
down to his level.
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It'd be the ultimate
old-me masterpiece.
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You sat there, knowing
at the end of the day,
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you're no better
than me.
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Don't you mean to say
"him"?
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Him.
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Past tense.
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Right.
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Bill, I don't blame you
in wanting me dead, okay?
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Is it -- Is it okay
if I call you Bill?
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You had your chance
at the hospital.
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Um...
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You have
a chance again now.
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Given what's in store for me,
it could be win/win.
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You'd like me to do it,
wouldn't ya?
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I actually would.
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But we know
that isn't who you are.
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Is it?
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No, it isn't.
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Then again...
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Shit.
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Move! Move! Come on!
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Man: Go!
Unlock it, unlock it.
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Appeared to be choking
on this little thing.
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I had to dislodge it.
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-Don't move!
-He's got evidence.
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Montez: He's got
evidence right there.
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Plastics --
could be the death of ya.
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We got evidence. He was choking.
He was choking.
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He was choking.
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Probably still is, any luck.Easy.
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What the fuck, man?
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People reveal their true colors
under duress.
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Good news is,
he's still at home.
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There's not a fucking thing
changed about him.
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That is not what we needed.
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Well, that's what you got.
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Am I still arrested?You might be.
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For now, you're dodging
a bullet thanks to me.
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No more bullshit, okay?
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Donna, thank God.
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Hi, Tony. All good.
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You're, uh --
You're processed out.
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Okay, good. His arraignment
is slated for 2:00.
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In the meantime,
no talking to the media.
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Why not?
Because I said so,
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and because that asshole's
lawyer is looking to
put the cops on trial,
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and I don't need you
spoon-feeding them sound bites.
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Babineau's talking
his face off everywhere.
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Would you help me
with this, please?Yeah, yeah, sure.
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All right, and put a suit on,
and just...
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generally look better
than you do right now.
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Thanks for coming.
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You know, I'm not
a criminal attorney.
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If they do decide
to prosecute you,
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you're gonna have to find
yourself somebody else.
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Montez says that
they probably won't.
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Are you okay?Yeah, yeah, it's all right.
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Yeah, it's okay.You know what, Bill?
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Whether they press
criminal charges or not,
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you could still face
a ton of civil exposure,
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the least of which Brady suing
youfor assault and battery.
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At least he's behind bars.
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So were you.
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Well, something happened
in there.
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No shit.
No, no.
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Seriously, like,
a bit of an eye-opener.
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A what?
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An epiphany, actually.
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"An epiphany." An epiphany?
What are you talking about?
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Well, I -- I'd like to tell you
about it, but --
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Fine. What -- What is it?
Tell me. Tell me the epiphany.
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No, not now.
Can we have dinner?
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No, it's 11:00.
I'm not hungry.
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Tomorrow, then.
Whenever.
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Fine.
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The case of the People of Ohio
vs. Brady Hartsfield
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is set to begin imminently.
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Public revulsion
against Mr. Hartsfield
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has not diminished even as
almost three years have passed
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since the Mercedes massacre.
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Surviving victims and
family members of the victims
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have turned out
for front-row seats
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to see this man
brought to justice.
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I'm not good
with crowds like this.
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Well, just suck it up.
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Reminds me
of the Arts Gala.
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Well, try not to bash
anybody's skull in.
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Bill Hodges, Michelle Roberts,
WPDK Milwaukee.
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Can I get a comment?
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Free agency ruined baseball.
That's all I got.
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Holly Gibney.
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Um, I'm sorry.
I've got to go. Sorry.
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Case number 32432 --
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People of Ohio
vs. Brady Hartsfield.
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Stop with the cameras, please.
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Stop with the cameras.
Take your seats.
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Shields: Good afternoon,
Your Honor.
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Merrill D. Shields
for the defendant.
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We will wave the reading
of the charges at this time,
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enter a plea
of not guilty.
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Antonio Montez for
the People of Ohio, Your Honor.
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In that this is a capital case,
we will be opposing bail.
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We do expect to be seeking
the death penalty,
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and there is a risk --
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The defense agrees
to wave bail, Judge,
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and I would be remiss
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if I did not say
this at the onset.
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I do not mean to stand
in this courtroom today
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to defend the heinous individual
who drove a Mercedes sedan
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into a crowd
of innocent people.
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I see many of those people
among us,
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some of their families
here with us today.
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You don't see my Janice,
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and you don't see
my granddaughter.
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Judge Helfrick:
Ladies and gentlemen.
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Ladies and gentlemen.
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Sir, please take your seat.
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Mr. Shields,
this is not the time.
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Yes, Your Honor.
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You've waved reading and bail.
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Any other matters
before we conference?
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Yes. At this time,
the defendant,
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pursuant to Section 29215.37
of the Ohio Revised Code,
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petitions the court
for a hearing
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to determine my client's
competency to stand trial.
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What?!
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Settle down.
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Settle down.
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Your Honor, there is no
mental deficit in play here.
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We suggest there is.
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If anything, Counsel and his
team have been publicly touting
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how Mr. Hartsfield's
mental condition has improved.
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More than that,
Your Honor. Preliminary
medical indications
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are that Brady Hartsfield
has been cured,
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and therein
lies the problem.
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In order for my client to assist
in his defense,
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he needs to be here.
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He isn't.
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I need to converse with him.
I can't.
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What are you talking about?
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We're talking about two
different people, Your Honor.
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There was the man who committed
this atrocious crime --
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let's call him
"Mr. Mercedes" --
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and then there's
the Brady Hartsfield
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sitting here
with us today.
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Mr. Mercedes is gone.
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He no longer exists
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and therefore cannot contribute
to his defense.
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Excuse me. What?
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Settle down.
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Let me instruct
all of you right now.
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Any more outbursts,
I will clear this room.
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Counsel, I'm confused.
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He committed these crimes
because of a mental disability.
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He's now cured
of that mental disability.
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And you maintain
that his being cured
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means that he's incompetent
to stand trial?
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Exactly.Are you kidding me,
Your Honor?
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I do not need to remind
the court -- maybe I do you.
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Legal incompetency does not mean
mental impairment or insanity.
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It means the defendant
lacks the capacity
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to assist
in his own defense.
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The man sitting there
cannot begin to understand,
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let alone defend,
what the other man did.
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Give me a break.
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Before you go off accusing
either me or my client
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of manipulating
this process,
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00:13:44,954 --> 00:13:48,131
Brady Hartsfield
did not ask to be cured.
256
00:13:48,175 --> 00:13:51,352
He did not consent
to be drugged.
257
00:13:51,395 --> 00:13:55,443
It is not this man's fault that
his brain was experimented on
258
00:13:55,486 --> 00:13:58,141
and that he's no longer
the person he used to be.
259
00:13:58,185 --> 00:14:01,666
It's not his fault that he can't
begin to comprehend
260
00:14:01,710 --> 00:14:05,453
the horrors that
Mr. Mercedes perpetuated,
261
00:14:05,496 --> 00:14:07,890
let alone defend himself
for it.
262
00:14:07,934 --> 00:14:12,373
There is no real meaningful
mental connection
263
00:14:12,416 --> 00:14:14,244
between this man
264
00:14:14,288 --> 00:14:17,334
and the man who drove a car
into a crowd of people.
265
00:14:22,426 --> 00:14:24,385
Your Honor, may I be heard?
266
00:14:27,779 --> 00:14:29,738
All right, all right,
all right!
267
00:14:29,781 --> 00:14:33,046
Let's settle down!
268
00:14:33,089 --> 00:14:36,266
-Stop with the cameras now.
-This will be my last warning.
269
00:14:36,310 --> 00:14:40,444
Mr. Hartsfield, this is not
a time for you to speak.
270
00:14:40,488 --> 00:14:44,231
I don't want this attorney or
any other defending my actions.
271
00:14:44,274 --> 00:14:46,929
The man who drove that car
was me physically.
272
00:14:46,973 --> 00:14:49,845
That person, whoever he was,
should be locked up
273
00:14:49,889 --> 00:14:53,805
or, even better, put to death.
274
00:14:53,849 --> 00:14:57,374
It's bad enough that
I'm trapped in the same body.
275
00:14:57,418 --> 00:15:00,160
The idea that my mind
could revert to...
276
00:15:01,683 --> 00:15:04,512
I'd rather be dead.
277
00:15:04,555 --> 00:15:07,776
This is what I'm talking about,
Your Honor.
278
00:15:07,819 --> 00:15:09,821
Mr. Mercedes
is no longer among us.
279
00:15:12,302 --> 00:15:13,042
Judge Helfrick: Settle down!
280
00:15:13,086 --> 00:15:14,652
Bailiff.
281
00:15:14,696 --> 00:15:16,219
All right.
282
00:15:16,263 --> 00:15:19,353
I want it quiet
in this courtroom! Quiet!
283
00:15:19,396 --> 00:15:21,181
As crazy as it sounds,
284
00:15:21,224 --> 00:15:24,749
it's both a viable
and valid legal argument.
285
00:15:24,793 --> 00:15:27,230
If the defense can show
that Brady Hartsfield
286
00:15:27,274 --> 00:15:30,407
has been mentally rebooted
and the current version
287
00:15:30,451 --> 00:15:33,976
cannot contribute to the
defense of his former self,
288
00:15:34,020 --> 00:15:38,633
then that meets the legal
definition of incompetency.
289
00:15:38,676 --> 00:15:40,461
Seriously?
290
00:15:40,504 --> 00:15:42,376
Do you think
it's really possible?
291
00:15:42,419 --> 00:15:44,508
No, it's not.
He's the same person.
292
00:15:44,552 --> 00:15:46,771
I saw it in the cell.
I saw it in the courtroom.
293
00:15:46,815 --> 00:15:49,383
It's a brilliant ploy.
294
00:15:49,426 --> 00:15:54,692
How can one be both brilliant
and incompetent to stand trial?
295
00:15:54,736 --> 00:15:58,087
'Cause the law is fucked.
296
00:16:01,395 --> 00:16:03,049
Ah, Jesus.
Speak of the devil.
297
00:16:05,268 --> 00:16:07,618
We need to go for a beer.
298
00:16:07,662 --> 00:16:09,359
Don't like
the sound of that.
299
00:16:09,403 --> 00:16:11,274
We need to go for a beer.
300
00:16:13,798 --> 00:16:16,366
I take it
you've seen the news.
301
00:16:16,410 --> 00:16:20,022
Not like I can avoid it.
It's beyond fucked.
302
00:16:20,066 --> 00:16:22,459
It's worse than fucked.
It's grotesque.
303
00:16:22,503 --> 00:16:24,635
Two beers please.
-You got it.
304
00:16:27,899 --> 00:16:29,423
Tell me.
305
00:16:29,466 --> 00:16:31,033
The way
it usually works is,
306
00:16:31,077 --> 00:16:33,383
if a guy pleads insanity
or incompetence
307
00:16:33,427 --> 00:16:36,256
and should he prevail,
he still gets institutionalized.
308
00:16:36,299 --> 00:16:37,953
He goes to a prison
with doctors.
309
00:16:37,997 --> 00:16:39,346
And?
310
00:16:39,389 --> 00:16:41,739
Here, it's a little
flipped on its head.
311
00:16:41,783 --> 00:16:43,915
If the basis
for legal incompetency
312
00:16:43,959 --> 00:16:46,353
is that he's essentially
a different person
313
00:16:46,396 --> 00:16:48,877
and that new person is deemed
to be neither criminal
314
00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,315
nor mentally impaired,
he can go free.
315
00:16:52,359 --> 00:16:53,621
Beg your pardon?
316
00:16:56,015 --> 00:16:58,060
They're gonna claim that
if he gets the Cerebellin
317
00:16:58,104 --> 00:17:00,671
and he remains
nonviolent and sane...
318
00:17:00,715 --> 00:17:02,064
They'd release him?
319
00:17:02,108 --> 00:17:04,023
Not today, not tomorrow,
maybe not five years from now.
320
00:17:04,066 --> 00:17:06,460
On policy, they'll hold him,
but 10 years down the line --
321
00:17:06,503 --> 00:17:07,591
He killed
a bunch of people.
322
00:17:07,635 --> 00:17:10,333
The old Brady.
323
00:17:10,377 --> 00:17:12,814
-Oh, bullshit.
-Bill, they got cards to play --
324
00:17:12,857 --> 00:17:14,555
the coma,
the drug therapy,
325
00:17:14,598 --> 00:17:16,426
the -- the unauthorized
surgeries.
326
00:17:16,470 --> 00:17:19,212
They're gonna claim that
the new Brady has been cured.
327
00:17:19,255 --> 00:17:21,214
Fuck with the rebranding --
"cured."
328
00:17:21,257 --> 00:17:22,737
Look, call it
whatever you want, okay?
329
00:17:22,780 --> 00:17:24,086
All I'm saying
is that Brady Hartsfield
330
00:17:24,130 --> 00:17:25,827
is becoming a cause.
331
00:17:25,870 --> 00:17:28,003
There's a swell.
332
00:17:28,047 --> 00:17:29,831
Felix Babineau's
in fucking Sweden right now
333
00:17:29,874 --> 00:17:31,441
meeting with those
Nobel Prize pricks.
334
00:17:31,485 --> 00:17:32,660
And after that,
he's going to China.
335
00:17:32,703 --> 00:17:34,009
Yeah, that's to avoid
prosecution.
336
00:17:34,053 --> 00:17:35,402
That's what that is.
337
00:17:35,445 --> 00:17:37,230
Even so, his wife
is getting booked
338
00:17:37,273 --> 00:17:38,796
on every cable show
there is.
339
00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,972
16 medical schools
and counting --
340
00:17:41,016 --> 00:17:42,409
teaching universities,
no less --
341
00:17:42,452 --> 00:17:44,889
are advocating that he
be kept alive and studied.
342
00:17:44,933 --> 00:17:47,370
And the Innocence Project
is thinking about coming on
343
00:17:47,414 --> 00:17:48,937
if it can be
medically proven
344
00:17:48,980 --> 00:17:50,895
that his brain was
materially altered somehow.
345
00:17:50,939 --> 00:17:52,593
Have to be fucking
kidding me.
346
00:17:52,636 --> 00:17:54,812
Mental incompetence
and the law --
347
00:17:54,856 --> 00:17:56,336
it's a rich man's out,
348
00:17:56,379 --> 00:17:58,990
and Brady's got
a lot of money behind him.
349
00:17:59,034 --> 00:18:01,819
That pharmaceutical company
is funding his defense
350
00:18:01,863 --> 00:18:04,822
and his Cerebellin
treatments.
351
00:18:04,866 --> 00:18:07,260
I'm looking to face
an army of expert testimony,
352
00:18:07,303 --> 00:18:08,652
and here's the kicker.
353
00:18:08,696 --> 00:18:10,437
They don't have to prove
incompetence
354
00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:11,612
beyond
all reasonable doubt.
355
00:18:11,655 --> 00:18:13,309
That's
a prosecutor's burden.
356
00:18:13,353 --> 00:18:15,703
All they have to do is show
a preponderance of evidence,
357
00:18:15,746 --> 00:18:17,139
which is basically
a sliver,
358
00:18:17,183 --> 00:18:21,926
that the old Brady is not
the new Brady, and he wins.
359
00:18:21,970 --> 00:18:24,059
I got half a mind to cut a deal
for 10 to 15 years.
360
00:18:24,103 --> 00:18:26,714
You've gone fucking mad.
361
00:18:26,757 --> 00:18:28,716
The world's
gone fucking mad.
362
00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,242
The man is faking it.
363
00:18:33,286 --> 00:18:35,157
Faking it.I have to prove it.
364
00:18:35,201 --> 00:18:37,246
Well, prove it, then,
and don't be a fucking toad!
365
00:18:37,290 --> 00:18:38,856
Oh, sure, no problem,
366
00:18:38,900 --> 00:18:41,163
except that everyone that knew
him back then is dead --
367
00:18:41,207 --> 00:18:42,773
his mother, his boss.Yeah, 'cause
he killed them all.
368
00:18:42,817 --> 00:18:44,340
Even so.
369
00:18:50,738 --> 00:18:52,914
What about me?
370
00:18:52,957 --> 00:18:54,524
I knew him.
I interacted with him.
371
00:18:54,568 --> 00:18:56,309
I knew him then.
I know him now.
372
00:18:56,352 --> 00:19:00,269
I can testify
he's the same fucking guy.
373
00:19:00,313 --> 00:19:03,011
And how do you think
that's gonna play, hmm?
374
00:19:03,054 --> 00:19:04,752
Isn't it true, Mr. Hodges,
375
00:19:04,795 --> 00:19:06,971
that you were obsessed
with Brady Hartsfield?
376
00:19:07,015 --> 00:19:09,191
Isn't it true, Mr. Hodges,
that you tried to kill him?
377
00:19:09,235 --> 00:19:12,890
Isn't it true that you think
he's capable of mental control?
378
00:19:12,934 --> 00:19:14,892
Isn't it true, Detective,
that you think my client
379
00:19:14,936 --> 00:19:16,677
inhabited the body
of Library Al
380
00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,287
in order to kill
the ADA's dog?
381
00:19:18,331 --> 00:19:19,593
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.You'll hardly
win the day, Bill.
382
00:19:22,161 --> 00:19:24,946
Lou.
383
00:19:24,989 --> 00:19:26,252
Sorry?
384
00:19:26,295 --> 00:19:28,776
Lou Linklatter.
385
00:19:28,819 --> 00:19:31,474
She knew him better
than anybody.
386
00:19:31,518 --> 00:19:32,780
Plus, she's
one of his victims.
387
00:19:36,262 --> 00:19:38,351
In a courtroom?
388
00:19:38,394 --> 00:19:40,701
With him in the room, awake?
389
00:19:40,744 --> 00:19:46,272
The thing is...you're
in the best position
390
00:19:46,315 --> 00:19:48,361
to tell the court
that he's the same person.
391
00:19:48,404 --> 00:19:49,275
It's as simple as that.
392
00:19:52,278 --> 00:19:55,411
I'm not a --
I'm not a fucking doctor.
393
00:19:55,455 --> 00:19:58,806
I-I'm not --
I mean, who --
394
00:19:58,849 --> 00:20:01,461
who am I to judge
Brady Hartsfield's sanity?
395
00:20:01,504 --> 00:20:04,203
It's different
from sanity.
396
00:20:04,246 --> 00:20:06,379
Insanity is, did he know
right from wrong?
397
00:20:06,422 --> 00:20:08,816
Incompetence goes to,
can he help himself at trial?
398
00:20:08,859 --> 00:20:11,297
And if he successfully
convinces the judge
399
00:20:11,340 --> 00:20:14,735
that it's not him,
that it's a different person --
400
00:20:14,778 --> 00:20:15,779
Wait. Are you...
401
00:20:17,868 --> 00:20:21,176
Are you saying that
he actually might get off?
402
00:20:21,220 --> 00:20:25,833
I'm saying that he may
avoid having to go to
trial altogether.
403
00:20:25,876 --> 00:20:29,532
And if he avoids it
on the grounds of being cured...
404
00:20:29,576 --> 00:20:31,491
they might
have to set him free.
405
00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,322
What?
406
00:20:43,459 --> 00:20:45,505
It'll never come
to that.
407
00:20:45,548 --> 00:20:48,551
Worst case...we get him
civilly committed.
408
00:20:48,595 --> 00:20:49,900
Oh, yeah, a hospital?
409
00:20:49,944 --> 00:20:51,772
'Cause you both know
how that turns out.
410
00:20:51,815 --> 00:20:54,470
Which is why we need you
to put him in prison.
411
00:20:56,907 --> 00:20:57,908
I can't.
412
00:20:57,952 --> 00:20:58,953
Lou.
413
00:21:02,217 --> 00:21:03,610
You have to.
414
00:21:06,917 --> 00:21:10,660
You knew the Brady Hartsfield
that killed those people.
415
00:21:10,704 --> 00:21:13,402
Whatever doctors or experts that
they parade in that courtroom,
416
00:21:13,446 --> 00:21:15,012
none of them knew
the old Brady.
417
00:21:15,056 --> 00:21:16,884
You did.
418
00:21:16,927 --> 00:21:20,540
Which means that you are
the only one in any position
419
00:21:20,583 --> 00:21:23,020
to go into that court
and say that he's still here.
420
00:21:23,064 --> 00:21:25,980
Can...
421
00:21:26,023 --> 00:21:29,592
Can I do it without...
422
00:21:29,636 --> 00:21:31,028
being in the same room
as him?
423
00:21:34,945 --> 00:21:37,600
For you to be able
to say that the new Brady
424
00:21:37,644 --> 00:21:40,864
is the same as the old...
425
00:21:40,908 --> 00:21:43,302
you have to spend
some time with the new.
426
00:21:46,522 --> 00:21:48,307
There's no other way
out of this.
427
00:21:54,617 --> 00:21:56,837
You know, I've always regarded
the judicial process
428
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,752
as being its own
form of obscenity,
429
00:21:58,795 --> 00:22:02,190
but to see it
used like that...
430
00:22:02,233 --> 00:22:05,193
Are you gonna lay that obscenity
on the defense attorneys?
431
00:22:05,236 --> 00:22:06,847
Oh, Jesus. Here we go.
432
00:22:06,890 --> 00:22:09,110
Hey, criminally insane
death-row inmates
433
00:22:09,153 --> 00:22:10,807
are medicated
all the time
434
00:22:10,851 --> 00:22:13,462
just to make them competent
enough to be executed.
435
00:22:13,506 --> 00:22:14,855
There's nothing
more perverse than that.
436
00:22:14,898 --> 00:22:16,117
Yeah,
but this isn't that.
437
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:17,988
No,
thiswould be the inverse.
438
00:22:20,687 --> 00:22:22,645
Let me ask you, okay?
All right?
439
00:22:22,689 --> 00:22:27,171
Just suppose this Cerebellin
drug lobotomizes him in a way
440
00:22:27,215 --> 00:22:30,000
and the former Brady
is no more.
441
00:22:30,044 --> 00:22:31,437
Yeah, but I don't believe
that to be the case.
442
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,482
I-I know, but let's suppose.
Let's just suppose it is.
443
00:22:33,526 --> 00:22:37,007
So the old Brady is no more
and the new one
444
00:22:37,051 --> 00:22:41,751
bears no real psychological
or culpable-intent resemblance.
445
00:22:41,795 --> 00:22:43,884
So what you're suggesting
is that I go
446
00:22:43,927 --> 00:22:45,973
and I murder
a load of people
447
00:22:46,016 --> 00:22:48,410
and then I get a prescription
filled out and we call it a day.
448
00:22:48,454 --> 00:22:49,846
That is not
what this is.
449
00:22:49,890 --> 00:22:51,500
Yes, it is.No. No, no, no.
450
00:22:51,544 --> 00:22:53,720
Billy, they experimented on him
when he was in a coma.
451
00:22:53,763 --> 00:22:55,635
They operated on him.
452
00:22:55,678 --> 00:22:58,202
They reverse-engineered
Frankenstein,
453
00:22:58,246 --> 00:23:00,074
and there's
a real possibility
454
00:23:00,117 --> 00:23:03,643
that the person we have
is a law-abiding, sane one.
455
00:23:03,686 --> 00:23:05,384
So it leaves us
with the question --
456
00:23:05,427 --> 00:23:08,430
what do we do with this man?
Hmm?
457
00:23:08,474 --> 00:23:10,084
Do we punish him
for what is essentially
458
00:23:10,127 --> 00:23:11,607
the crimes
of someone else?
459
00:23:11,651 --> 00:23:13,261
It wasn't somebody else.No, I know, I know.
460
00:23:13,304 --> 00:23:15,829
I'm just -- Just suppose --
Just suppose that that --
461
00:23:15,872 --> 00:23:17,004
I -- I...
462
00:23:20,007 --> 00:23:21,965
Maybe I -- I just...
463
00:23:25,491 --> 00:23:27,014
Maybe I should just go.
464
00:23:31,279 --> 00:23:33,934
I really was looking forward to
getting in beside you tonight.
465
00:23:33,977 --> 00:23:35,892
What?
466
00:23:35,936 --> 00:23:37,154
I can't. It's just...
467
00:23:37,198 --> 00:23:38,591
Billy, I...
468
00:23:42,072 --> 00:23:43,552
I mean...
469
00:23:49,819 --> 00:23:51,865
What? Tell me.
What is going on with you?
470
00:23:54,215 --> 00:23:55,782
Told you
I had an epiphany.
471
00:23:55,825 --> 00:23:57,436
Okay.
472
00:23:57,479 --> 00:24:00,134
Well, was -- was it
a sexual epiphany?
473
00:24:00,177 --> 00:24:02,484
Oh, for -- Never mind.
474
00:24:02,528 --> 00:24:03,267
All right, all right,
tell me.
475
00:24:03,311 --> 00:24:05,922
What -- Go ahead.
476
00:24:05,966 --> 00:24:07,010
Okay.
477
00:24:10,361 --> 00:24:11,537
When he turned
himself in...
478
00:24:11,580 --> 00:24:13,626
Mm.
479
00:24:13,669 --> 00:24:16,716
...at first,
I got really agitated.
480
00:24:19,196 --> 00:24:21,329
I figured it was because
I was pissed off
481
00:24:21,372 --> 00:24:24,593
I wasn't the one
who got him, okay?
482
00:24:24,637 --> 00:24:27,204
And then after a bit,
I started feeling a bit better.
483
00:24:27,248 --> 00:24:28,684
I mean,
I didn't even realize,
484
00:24:28,728 --> 00:24:30,686
but actually really
a lot better.
485
00:24:30,730 --> 00:24:32,514
You know, the agitation,
I think,
486
00:24:32,558 --> 00:24:37,214
was because I didn't really
trust that he'd been caught.
487
00:24:37,258 --> 00:24:39,042
I figured
he was gaming it...
Mm.
488
00:24:39,086 --> 00:24:40,957
...which, like, now, seeing
everything that's happened...
489
00:24:41,001 --> 00:24:42,568
Yeah.
490
00:24:42,611 --> 00:24:43,873
...pretty good assessment,
I would say.
491
00:24:43,917 --> 00:24:46,267
Pretty fucking accurate,
if you ask me.
492
00:24:48,356 --> 00:24:50,924
And so, um -- so, this --
this is the epiphany?
493
00:24:50,967 --> 00:24:53,274
No, I didn't get to
the fucking epiphany yet.All right, okay.
All right, I'm sorry.
494
00:24:53,317 --> 00:24:55,232
Go ahead. Go.
495
00:24:55,276 --> 00:24:56,625
Tell me.
496
00:24:59,062 --> 00:25:02,588
Anyway, I was
sitting in jail...
497
00:25:02,631 --> 00:25:05,547
after I decided
not to choke him...
498
00:25:10,204 --> 00:25:13,120
...and it suddenly hit me
that he really was caught.
499
00:25:13,163 --> 00:25:16,297
I mean, caughtcaught.
500
00:25:16,340 --> 00:25:19,866
It was all finally over.
501
00:25:19,909 --> 00:25:21,389
Hmm.
502
00:25:21,432 --> 00:25:23,913
Like a ton of bricks...
503
00:25:23,957 --> 00:25:25,611
just hit me.
504
00:25:28,004 --> 00:25:30,920
And...
505
00:25:30,964 --> 00:25:35,359
my first thought...
506
00:25:35,403 --> 00:25:37,187
was being home,
507
00:25:37,231 --> 00:25:40,887
feeding Fred,
going into the shed,
508
00:25:40,930 --> 00:25:42,845
digging out me old paints --
Remember me old paints?
509
00:25:42,889 --> 00:25:44,281
Mm.
510
00:25:44,325 --> 00:25:45,239
When was the last time
you painted?
511
00:25:45,282 --> 00:25:48,155
I know.
Mm.
512
00:25:48,198 --> 00:25:49,417
And you said to me,
513
00:25:49,460 --> 00:25:52,202
"After Brady Hartsfield,
what then?
514
00:25:52,246 --> 00:25:53,552
What's the next obsession?"
515
00:25:53,595 --> 00:25:54,944
But, like, at that moment,
516
00:25:54,988 --> 00:25:58,426
when the thought took hold
of him being over,
517
00:25:58,469 --> 00:26:00,602
I didn't say to myself,
518
00:26:00,646 --> 00:26:03,126
"Okay, who's next?
What's next?"
519
00:26:03,170 --> 00:26:06,608
You know, my mind went,
amazingly, to my fucking paints.
520
00:26:06,652 --> 00:26:08,828
Mm-hmm.
521
00:26:08,871 --> 00:26:10,003
There's not gonna be
another one.
522
00:26:10,046 --> 00:26:11,918
Brady was it.
523
00:26:11,961 --> 00:26:15,312
I -- I was just looking
to finish a job, okay?
524
00:26:15,356 --> 00:26:18,838
The job was him.
525
00:26:18,881 --> 00:26:20,535
I felt like
an empty sack of shit
526
00:26:20,579 --> 00:26:22,450
when I retired...
Mm-hmm.
527
00:26:22,493 --> 00:26:24,060
...because I was a failure.
528
00:26:24,104 --> 00:26:26,933
You know what I mean?
529
00:26:26,976 --> 00:26:32,068
But...I'm not
fundamentally damaged.
530
00:26:32,112 --> 00:26:34,462
I've been tormented,
but...
531
00:26:34,505 --> 00:26:37,639
torment pretty much limited
to Brady Hartsfield.
532
00:26:37,683 --> 00:26:40,686
Once he's over,
that's it.
533
00:26:40,729 --> 00:26:42,122
I guess what I'm trying
to say is there's --
534
00:26:42,165 --> 00:26:45,212
there's hope for me yet,
you know?
535
00:26:45,255 --> 00:26:48,128
I-I just thought that...
536
00:26:50,521 --> 00:26:52,088
...that kind of
sense of hope...
537
00:26:53,742 --> 00:26:56,484
Would...
538
00:26:56,527 --> 00:26:58,529
Would get me
in the sack again?
539
00:27:04,579 --> 00:27:05,885
With any luck.
540
00:27:09,628 --> 00:27:11,455
Yeah.
541
00:27:12,848 --> 00:27:15,721
That's it.
542
00:27:15,764 --> 00:27:18,506
That's the epiphany.
543
00:27:18,549 --> 00:27:19,681
There's not gonna be
another one, Donna.
544
00:27:19,725 --> 00:27:21,422
I can see this
clear as day.
545
00:27:33,216 --> 00:27:36,393
If one was to compare
Mr. Hartsfield's appearance,
546
00:27:36,437 --> 00:27:40,006
anatomical features,
fingerprints, he is the same.
547
00:27:40,049 --> 00:27:43,705
My research team has identified
some isolated cases
548
00:27:43,749 --> 00:27:46,055
in which patients
have experienced
549
00:27:46,099 --> 00:27:48,754
hyper-empathy
after brain surgery.
550
00:27:48,797 --> 00:27:52,714
Mr. Hartsfield's cognitive
development materialized
551
00:27:52,758 --> 00:27:55,325
through the administration of a
next-gen drug called Cerebellin.
552
00:27:55,369 --> 00:27:57,458
Dr. Young: Well, it's clear
that the Cerebellin
553
00:27:57,501 --> 00:27:59,068
is directly affecting the --
-It is undeniable --
554
00:27:59,112 --> 00:28:00,853
-...that our ability to...
-But after meticulous --
555
00:28:00,896 --> 00:28:02,985
-...for epilepsy...
-...what defines our humanity...
556
00:28:03,029 --> 00:28:05,727
Cora: This drug,
it saved Brady Hartsfield.
557
00:28:05,771 --> 00:28:07,816
It transformed him.
558
00:28:07,860 --> 00:28:09,731
And, more importantly,
it can save others.
559
00:28:15,824 --> 00:28:18,392
Is court over
for the day already?
560
00:28:18,435 --> 00:28:21,264
Ugh, couldn't take
any more of it.
561
00:28:21,308 --> 00:28:26,313
Doctor after doctor
saying he's a changed man.
562
00:28:26,356 --> 00:28:29,795
The molecular structure
of the brain bullshit.
563
00:28:29,838 --> 00:28:32,449
It's beyond lunacy.
564
00:28:32,493 --> 00:28:35,626
Well, like you say,
we drove off the logic bridge
565
00:28:35,670 --> 00:28:37,498
a long time ago.
566
00:28:39,413 --> 00:28:42,590
Hey, look, the judge
isn't gonna fall for this.
567
00:28:44,940 --> 00:28:46,986
We can only hope so.
568
00:28:50,816 --> 00:28:52,513
Ida called.
569
00:28:52,556 --> 00:28:55,777
Um, the gazebo's almost finished
and so she wants to have
570
00:28:55,821 --> 00:29:00,129
a kind of a "gazebo is almost
finished"-warming tea party?
571
00:29:00,173 --> 00:29:02,131
Well, that clinches it.
572
00:29:02,175 --> 00:29:05,395
The world is totally
fucking mad.
573
00:29:05,439 --> 00:29:07,528
A mass killer
stands to go free,
574
00:29:07,571 --> 00:29:09,704
but let's all go
and have tea.
575
00:29:09,748 --> 00:29:10,661
Well, it seemed
important to her,
576
00:29:10,705 --> 00:29:12,272
so I-I think
we should go.
577
00:29:15,754 --> 00:29:17,016
Okay.
578
00:29:19,496 --> 00:29:21,194
So, how's Montez doing?
579
00:29:21,237 --> 00:29:22,586
Best he can.
580
00:29:32,683 --> 00:29:35,077
I think this could all
come down to Lou.
581
00:29:37,776 --> 00:29:40,300
Oh.
I certainly hope not.
582
00:29:40,343 --> 00:29:44,739
I mean, she's not doing
very well at all.
583
00:29:46,872 --> 00:29:49,788
You're gonna have to
hand-hold her, Holly.
584
00:29:49,831 --> 00:29:52,355
She's the only one
who can tell the court
585
00:29:52,399 --> 00:29:55,228
that the old Hartsfield is
still among us -- the only one.
586
00:29:55,271 --> 00:29:57,708
I know, but the idea of being
alone with him is --
587
00:29:57,752 --> 00:30:00,711
Well, that's where
you come in.
588
00:30:00,755 --> 00:30:03,627
No one knows anxiety
from the inside like you.
589
00:30:06,195 --> 00:30:08,589
We have to get her
into that courtroom.
590
00:30:11,418 --> 00:30:14,595
Was he really the same
when you were in jail with him?
591
00:30:14,638 --> 00:30:16,684
I mean, he --
he was the same?
592
00:30:19,078 --> 00:30:22,690
He didn't strike me
as altogether the same,
593
00:30:22,733 --> 00:30:26,346
but not altogether
different, either.
594
00:30:26,389 --> 00:30:29,131
Enough the same,
that's for sure.
595
00:30:31,525 --> 00:30:34,223
That's an unusual request,
Mr. Montez.
596
00:30:34,267 --> 00:30:36,878
I get that, Judge, but for all
the forensic psychiatrists,
597
00:30:36,922 --> 00:30:40,012
none of them have foundation
on the issue of changed man.
598
00:30:40,055 --> 00:30:41,622
None of them knew the old
Brady Hartsfield.
599
00:30:41,665 --> 00:30:43,276
Miss Linklatter did.
600
00:30:43,319 --> 00:30:44,451
But in order to compare
the old Brady
601
00:30:44,494 --> 00:30:46,279
to the so-called
new one,
602
00:30:46,322 --> 00:30:48,020
she's gonna have
to meet him.
603
00:30:48,063 --> 00:30:51,675
Your Honor, this woman is
obviously going to be biased.
604
00:30:51,719 --> 00:30:54,765
I mean, she's
a former victim of Mr. Mercedes.
605
00:30:54,809 --> 00:30:56,593
The court can take judicial
notice of her biases,
606
00:30:56,637 --> 00:30:58,291
her fears,
her post-traumatic stress
607
00:30:58,334 --> 00:30:59,770
associated
with your client.
608
00:30:59,814 --> 00:31:01,816
You simply cannot order
a defendant
609
00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:04,123
to meet with a witness
for the prosecution.
610
00:31:04,166 --> 00:31:06,865
Of course I can.
This is a competency hearing.
611
00:31:06,908 --> 00:31:08,736
Every doctor
who ran a test on him
612
00:31:08,779 --> 00:31:10,956
was potentially
a prosecution witness.
613
00:31:10,999 --> 00:31:12,914
Moreover, before I even
begin to consider
614
00:31:12,958 --> 00:31:15,177
letting a mass murderer
off the legal hook,
615
00:31:15,221 --> 00:31:17,571
I'm gonna consider every piece
of evidence that I can.
616
00:31:19,529 --> 00:31:21,357
Both:
Thank you, Your Honor.
617
00:31:21,401 --> 00:31:24,883
He's shackled
and handcuffed.
618
00:31:24,926 --> 00:31:28,147
And there will be a camera on
at all times.
619
00:31:28,190 --> 00:31:30,671
Why can't there be a guard
in the room?
620
00:31:30,714 --> 00:31:33,413
There can be
if you want one.
621
00:31:33,456 --> 00:31:36,895
Lou, we think you've a better
shot at candor if you're alone.
622
00:31:39,636 --> 00:31:42,988
Lou, you --
you can do this.
623
00:31:43,031 --> 00:31:45,816
And if you get scared
and you want a guard to go in,
624
00:31:45,860 --> 00:31:48,167
just touch your hand to your
head, and that'll be the signal.
625
00:31:48,210 --> 00:31:51,648
Someone will go in
and help you.
626
00:31:51,692 --> 00:31:53,694
I don't un--
I don't understand
627
00:31:53,737 --> 00:31:56,915
what you're expecting me
to do here.
628
00:31:56,958 --> 00:32:00,266
Just go in
and talk to him...
629
00:32:00,309 --> 00:32:01,920
see where it goes.
630
00:32:01,963 --> 00:32:04,096
You can do this.
631
00:32:04,139 --> 00:32:06,446
I know you can.
632
00:33:14,383 --> 00:33:19,084
Um...I s-suppose we should try
and make eye contact.
633
00:33:22,522 --> 00:33:24,002
I don't want
to look at you.
634
00:33:33,794 --> 00:33:35,839
I'm so sorry.
635
00:34:02,475 --> 00:34:04,694
So you remember,
then?
636
00:34:04,738 --> 00:34:08,829
I have a memory
of seeing it...
637
00:34:08,872 --> 00:34:10,091
of doing it.
638
00:34:10,135 --> 00:34:11,353
Um...
639
00:34:13,877 --> 00:34:17,881
I know it was this hand
that...held the knife,
640
00:34:17,925 --> 00:34:21,581
but...it belonged
to a different person.
641
00:34:28,718 --> 00:34:30,981
You're just
scamming this, Brady.
642
00:34:31,025 --> 00:34:34,159
I'm sure that's
what people think.
643
00:34:34,202 --> 00:34:36,857
And I don't really care.
644
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,167
But I do care
what you believe.
645
00:34:42,210 --> 00:34:44,691
Why?
646
00:34:44,734 --> 00:34:46,954
You're
a changed person, so...
647
00:34:46,997 --> 00:34:49,217
we don't have
a relationship.
648
00:34:49,261 --> 00:34:52,568
I remember you...
649
00:34:52,612 --> 00:34:56,659
us, and the --
the talks we had...
650
00:35:00,141 --> 00:35:02,100
...the way we, uh...
651
00:35:02,143 --> 00:35:06,016
the way we goofed on Robi,
652
00:35:06,060 --> 00:35:09,672
anyone else that looked down
on us and...
653
00:35:09,716 --> 00:35:11,413
dismissed us.
654
00:35:16,549 --> 00:35:18,638
You were the only person
I talked to.
655
00:35:22,163 --> 00:35:24,296
The shit we could do
with computers.
656
00:35:28,648 --> 00:35:30,693
We were gonna take
over the world.
657
00:35:34,393 --> 00:35:35,959
Remember?
658
00:35:45,230 --> 00:35:47,710
I still find it hard...
659
00:35:47,754 --> 00:35:50,322
to imagine
that I could've harmed you.
660
00:35:50,365 --> 00:35:51,758
Harm me?
661
00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:58,025
You killed me.
662
00:35:59,809 --> 00:36:03,248
It's not like I didn't have
friends, no family.
663
00:36:06,251 --> 00:36:11,081
You were
the only one that knew me...
664
00:36:11,125 --> 00:36:12,648
and you got me.
665
00:36:15,869 --> 00:36:18,524
You got me,
and you fucking stabbed me.
666
00:36:22,658 --> 00:36:24,660
You fucking killed me forever,
Brady.
667
00:36:32,407 --> 00:36:35,410
All right,
so you remember.
668
00:36:35,454 --> 00:36:39,545
Then I'm assuming
you remember why.
669
00:36:39,588 --> 00:36:42,461
I was finishing
a masterpiece.
670
00:36:42,504 --> 00:36:45,377
You would've turned me in.
I thought, "Prevent that."
671
00:36:45,420 --> 00:36:46,508
Oh, yeah?
672
00:36:50,251 --> 00:36:53,907
One of the only times
I felt.
673
00:36:53,950 --> 00:36:57,040
When I drove over those people,
I didn't feel.
674
00:36:59,434 --> 00:37:02,655
When I blew up the car,
I didn't feel.
675
00:37:02,698 --> 00:37:05,571
When I killed Robi...
676
00:37:05,614 --> 00:37:07,225
I didn't feel.
677
00:37:11,229 --> 00:37:16,408
And when
my mother died...I felt.
678
00:37:16,451 --> 00:37:22,457
And...when I did
what I did to you, I felt.
679
00:37:29,595 --> 00:37:32,206
I was every bit the monster
they claimed me to be.
680
00:37:32,250 --> 00:37:35,078
I was that.
681
00:37:35,122 --> 00:37:39,779
But when I look for clues
that...I was more than that,
682
00:37:39,822 --> 00:37:42,434
I was capable
of compassion,
683
00:37:42,477 --> 00:37:46,351
I think of my mother...
684
00:37:46,394 --> 00:37:47,700
and I think of you.
685
00:37:52,531 --> 00:37:54,228
Fuck.
686
00:37:54,272 --> 00:37:57,623
My lawyer says
this is so you can testify
687
00:37:57,666 --> 00:38:00,669
that I'm still
the same person...
688
00:38:00,713 --> 00:38:02,628
...so I'll be held
accountable.
689
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,720
He advised me to make sure
you understand
690
00:38:07,763 --> 00:38:10,505
that I'm --
I'm not that person.
691
00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:19,862
I'm gonna make this easy
for you.
692
00:38:19,906 --> 00:38:23,910
As much as I want
to believe that...
693
00:38:23,953 --> 00:38:27,130
the old me
is completely extinguished,
694
00:38:29,045 --> 00:38:31,483
I still remember.
695
00:38:34,312 --> 00:38:36,749
I remember you,
696
00:38:36,792 --> 00:38:39,969
how we were, and...
697
00:38:42,276 --> 00:38:44,147
...our friendship.
698
00:38:44,191 --> 00:38:46,280
That portion of me
is not gone.
699
00:38:49,327 --> 00:38:52,199
He's still here.
700
00:38:52,242 --> 00:38:54,288
So you can tell
them that.
701
00:38:58,336 --> 00:39:00,338
I'm still here.
702
00:39:12,262 --> 00:39:14,221
I just want you
to forgive me.
703
00:39:36,591 --> 00:39:38,419
Are you still
gonna call her?
704
00:39:38,463 --> 00:39:40,160
Have to.
705
00:39:40,203 --> 00:39:42,380
The fact that she might be
a sympathetic witness
706
00:39:42,423 --> 00:39:44,556
to the defendant
only makes her that
much more compelling.
707
00:39:44,599 --> 00:39:46,514
All we need is for her to
testify that he's the same guy.
708
00:39:46,558 --> 00:39:49,038
She stands ready
to do that.
709
00:39:49,082 --> 00:39:50,475
So why the long face?
710
00:39:53,826 --> 00:39:56,394
Well, another little development
has popped up.
711
00:39:56,437 --> 00:39:58,004
Now what?
712
00:39:58,047 --> 00:39:59,658
Evidently,
the federal government
713
00:39:59,701 --> 00:40:02,661
is drafting
a habeas petition.
714
00:40:02,704 --> 00:40:04,358
They want Brady
transferred to them.
715
00:40:04,402 --> 00:40:06,229
What? Now?
Why?
716
00:40:06,273 --> 00:40:09,015
Oh, you're gonna
love this.
717
00:40:09,058 --> 00:40:10,538
Public safety.
718
00:40:10,582 --> 00:40:12,366
And not the good,
old-fashioned,
719
00:40:12,410 --> 00:40:14,542
red-white-and-blue,
lock-him-up public safety.
720
00:40:14,586 --> 00:40:16,718
Rather the "Let's save
millions of lives and
billions of dollars
721
00:40:16,762 --> 00:40:19,286
in healthcare costs"
public safety.
722
00:40:19,329 --> 00:40:21,244
They want him transferred
to Springfield, Missouri,
723
00:40:21,288 --> 00:40:23,072
so he can continue
to be studied.
724
00:40:23,116 --> 00:40:25,988
Before trial?
Can that happen?
725
00:40:26,032 --> 00:40:27,425
I hope not.
726
00:40:27,468 --> 00:40:29,383
This man is a monster.
727
00:40:29,427 --> 00:40:32,081
Yeah, well, we make deals
with monsters.
728
00:40:32,125 --> 00:40:34,344
Whether they're terrorists,
organized-crime members,
729
00:40:34,388 --> 00:40:37,957
drug dealers, we cut
deals with killers every day.
730
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,654
It all comes down to whether
more people are helped
731
00:40:39,698 --> 00:40:42,091
than harmed
in the equation.
732
00:40:42,135 --> 00:40:44,311
Yeah, that's exactly
the shit that Babineau's wife
733
00:40:44,354 --> 00:40:45,878
is trying to sell
on the TV.
734
00:40:45,921 --> 00:40:48,837
You know, I desperately
wanted this case.
735
00:40:48,881 --> 00:40:51,231
I thought
it would make me,
736
00:40:51,274 --> 00:40:53,363
that my career
would skyrocket.
737
00:40:55,453 --> 00:40:57,280
He's gonna
fucking destroy me.
738
00:40:57,324 --> 00:40:58,673
He has a knack
for that.
739
00:41:01,807 --> 00:41:04,679
He killed
my fucking dog, too.
740
00:41:04,723 --> 00:41:06,289
Get a new fucking dog.
741
00:41:08,248 --> 00:41:10,642
Tell that to my family.
742
00:41:12,818 --> 00:41:14,820
He killed my girlfriend.
743
00:41:21,566 --> 00:41:23,611
-I'd like to propose a toast.
-Oh.
744
00:41:23,655 --> 00:41:26,527
First to almost
finishing the gazebo.
745
00:41:26,571 --> 00:41:28,660
Oh, hear, hear.
746
00:41:28,703 --> 00:41:30,096
And, by the way,
it will be finished,
747
00:41:30,139 --> 00:41:32,664
just FYI.Absolutely, absolutely.
748
00:41:32,707 --> 00:41:34,666
After a year
at Harvard,
749
00:41:34,709 --> 00:41:38,539
um...I see the importance
of working with your hands.
750
00:41:38,583 --> 00:41:40,019
I mean, first of all,
you understand
751
00:41:40,062 --> 00:41:43,326
the hand/brain connection,
right?I do, yeah.
752
00:41:43,370 --> 00:41:45,938
The hand is actually
a cueing organ that
teaches the cortex
753
00:41:45,981 --> 00:41:48,418
the kinesthesia
of motor action, so --
754
00:41:48,462 --> 00:41:50,551
Jesus fuck, can we just have
a sip of tea
755
00:41:50,595 --> 00:41:53,075
without discussing the wonders
of the human brain?
756
00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:56,426
Yeah, fair enough.
757
00:41:56,470 --> 00:41:58,603
-You okay?
-Yeah, yeah, yeah.
758
00:41:58,646 --> 00:42:00,735
Well, I have
a second part to the toast,
759
00:42:00,779 --> 00:42:03,216
and it's for you.
760
00:42:03,259 --> 00:42:06,480
Ah, make me feel like shit
now, why don't ya?
761
00:42:06,524 --> 00:42:08,874
--Hey, shh.
762
00:42:08,917 --> 00:42:11,006
A little over a year ago,
you came to me,
763
00:42:11,050 --> 00:42:12,660
needing help
with your computer,
764
00:42:12,704 --> 00:42:15,794
saying you had, uh,
vanishing e-mails,
765
00:42:15,837 --> 00:42:17,796
and I thought,
"You're crazy."
766
00:42:19,145 --> 00:42:20,581
And then you claimed
that there were messages
767
00:42:20,625 --> 00:42:22,452
popping up
on your TV screen,
768
00:42:22,496 --> 00:42:25,151
so I thought again,
"You're crazy."
769
00:42:25,194 --> 00:42:26,631
Fast-forward
a year later,
770
00:42:26,674 --> 00:42:29,111
you say a brain-dead guy
is conscious.
771
00:42:29,155 --> 00:42:31,374
Very fucking crazy.
772
00:42:31,418 --> 00:42:34,464
Fast-forward again, you say
that brain-dead guy in a coma
773
00:42:34,508 --> 00:42:37,163
is controlling people
with his mind.
774
00:42:37,206 --> 00:42:40,209
So fucking crazy, Bill.
775
00:42:40,253 --> 00:42:44,083
And then he woke up,
776
00:42:44,126 --> 00:42:45,693
he escapes the hospital,
777
00:42:45,737 --> 00:42:48,653
and now they might
possibly let him go
778
00:42:48,696 --> 00:42:50,611
for the greater good
of society.
779
00:42:50,655 --> 00:42:54,310
Very long toast,
Jerome.
780
00:42:54,354 --> 00:42:57,618
What I'm trying to say
is...
781
00:42:57,662 --> 00:42:59,620
I love you.
782
00:42:59,664 --> 00:43:03,406
And the crazy ain't in you,
old man.
783
00:43:03,450 --> 00:43:06,453
It's this fucked-up world.
784
00:43:06,496 --> 00:43:08,803
-Hear, hear.
-Yes, hear, hear.
785
00:43:08,847 --> 00:43:10,500
-Cheers.
-All right, I have a toast now.
786
00:43:10,544 --> 00:43:11,501
-Oh, wow.
-Okay.
787
00:43:11,545 --> 00:43:13,460
They say, uh...
788
00:43:13,503 --> 00:43:15,941
Somebody said it's
not the destination,
it's the journey.
789
00:43:15,984 --> 00:43:17,507
-Who is it who said that?
-I don't fucking know.
790
00:43:17,551 --> 00:43:19,771
Somebody said it,
all right?
791
00:43:19,814 --> 00:43:22,687
Jesus, you let him
bang on for ages.Well, I --
792
00:43:25,124 --> 00:43:27,605
Look, however this ends,
okay, however this ends...
793
00:43:30,042 --> 00:43:33,219
...I met you guys
on this journey, and, uh --
794
00:43:33,262 --> 00:43:35,134
and I love
every one of ya.
795
00:43:35,177 --> 00:43:36,657
All that stuff.
796
00:43:36,701 --> 00:43:39,442
So that's
the end of the toast.
797
00:43:39,486 --> 00:43:41,662
Now can we drink
before the tea goes cold?
798
00:43:41,706 --> 00:43:43,533
-Hear, hear.
-Cheers.
799
00:44:01,116 --> 00:44:03,379
Man: Please take everything
out of your pockets.
800
00:44:03,423 --> 00:44:07,079
If you have a wristwatch on,
place it in the bucket, please.
801
00:44:07,122 --> 00:44:08,297
Thank you.
802
00:44:13,912 --> 00:44:16,523
Wait. Do I have to make
eye contact with him?
803
00:44:16,566 --> 00:44:20,005
No, just...answer
the lawyers' questions.
804
00:44:20,048 --> 00:44:22,834
You don't have to look
at anybody specifically.
805
00:44:22,877 --> 00:44:26,402
You know, if you feel
yourself getting weak,
you can just look at me.
806
00:44:26,446 --> 00:44:29,318
Oh, I don't know
if I can do this.
807
00:44:29,362 --> 00:44:32,278
Lou, the hardest thing
you'll ever have to do
808
00:44:32,321 --> 00:44:33,845
is be alone
in a room with him,
809
00:44:33,888 --> 00:44:36,195
which you already did, okay,
so you can do this.
810
00:44:36,238 --> 00:44:38,719
I mean, when things get
really hard sometimes,
811
00:44:38,763 --> 00:44:40,895
I tell myself that
I'm gonna hold my breath
812
00:44:40,939 --> 00:44:43,463
for the rest of my life,
which, of course, is impossible.
813
00:44:43,506 --> 00:44:45,465
I mean, no one can hold
their breath forever,
814
00:44:45,508 --> 00:44:48,163
but next to that, you know,
everything seems simple.
815
00:44:48,207 --> 00:44:50,992
So just tell yourself
you're gonna hold your breath.
816
00:44:51,036 --> 00:44:54,169
But don't.
But just, um, take breaths.
817
00:44:54,213 --> 00:44:58,260
Just...deep...breaths.
818
00:44:59,305 --> 00:45:01,220
-Uh, Holly?
-Mm-hmm?
819
00:45:01,263 --> 00:45:02,874
Stop helping.
820
00:45:02,917 --> 00:45:06,878
Sorry.
821
00:45:06,921 --> 00:45:08,140
Reporter:
Miss Linklatter.Just -- Sorry.
822
00:45:08,183 --> 00:45:09,881
Miss Linkla--
823
00:45:09,924 --> 00:45:13,580
I'll break that thing right over
your fucking head.
824
00:45:13,623 --> 00:45:15,800
Lou:
He's the same person.
825
00:45:15,843 --> 00:45:16,844
Are you sure about that?
826
00:45:16,888 --> 00:45:19,151
Positive.
827
00:45:19,194 --> 00:45:21,588
Is he totally
the same person? No.
828
00:45:23,372 --> 00:45:24,678
But he's
the Brady I knew.
829
00:45:26,332 --> 00:45:28,464
What did the two of you
talk about?
830
00:45:32,512 --> 00:45:36,864
Our friendship...mostly,
831
00:45:36,908 --> 00:45:42,000
the stuff we...used to do
on computers...
832
00:45:42,043 --> 00:45:43,784
just stuff.
833
00:45:43,828 --> 00:45:45,438
The two of you
were good friends.
834
00:45:47,353 --> 00:45:49,355
He was my best friend.
835
00:45:51,749 --> 00:45:53,402
Did you talk about
what he did to you?
836
00:45:53,446 --> 00:45:55,840
Yes...
837
00:45:55,883 --> 00:45:57,929
and he showed remorse.
838
00:45:57,972 --> 00:46:01,062
So he admitted that he was
the man who stabbed you.
839
00:46:01,106 --> 00:46:03,151
Yes.
840
00:46:03,195 --> 00:46:04,587
He say anything else?
841
00:46:06,459 --> 00:46:09,549
Basically
that he's changed a lot...
842
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:16,599
...that he can't fathom
what he did to me,
843
00:46:16,643 --> 00:46:19,515
but he remembered doing it
and he took ownership of it.
844
00:46:19,559 --> 00:46:21,039
And by ownership,
you mean guilt.
845
00:46:21,082 --> 00:46:23,258
Yes.
846
00:46:23,302 --> 00:46:25,826
So when you were sitting
in the visitors' room,
847
00:46:25,870 --> 00:46:28,002
you were sitting with a man
who took responsibility
848
00:46:28,046 --> 00:46:30,178
and felt guilt
for what he had done to you.Yes.
849
00:46:32,833 --> 00:46:34,792
Did he feel guilt
for killing those people?
850
00:46:39,274 --> 00:46:40,493
That I don't know.
851
00:46:43,539 --> 00:46:46,194
He said he didn't
feel for them...
852
00:46:46,238 --> 00:46:49,328
but that he felt for me.
853
00:46:49,371 --> 00:46:51,156
And after talking to him,
854
00:46:51,199 --> 00:46:54,028
this was the Brady Hartsfield
you always knew.
855
00:46:54,072 --> 00:46:56,117
He seemed...
856
00:46:56,161 --> 00:46:58,076
more human?
857
00:47:00,078 --> 00:47:02,210
But he's the Brady I knew.
858
00:47:02,254 --> 00:47:03,821
And based on
your personal relationship
859
00:47:03,864 --> 00:47:06,214
and experience
with the defendant,
860
00:47:06,258 --> 00:47:08,477
did you form an opinion as to
whether or not he had changed?
861
00:47:11,785 --> 00:47:13,918
Again, he's changed some.
862
00:47:13,961 --> 00:47:16,224
He seems...
863
00:47:16,268 --> 00:47:18,618
more compassionate,
864
00:47:18,661 --> 00:47:20,446
capable of remorse...
865
00:47:24,537 --> 00:47:26,974
...but he's the same sociopath
who stabbed me.
866
00:47:29,281 --> 00:47:31,065
Did you form an opinion
as to whether or not
867
00:47:31,109 --> 00:47:33,589
he understands what's going on
in these legal proceedings?
868
00:47:33,633 --> 00:47:36,462
He understands.
869
00:47:36,505 --> 00:47:40,814
Brady Hartsfield was
870
00:47:40,858 --> 00:47:44,165
and is the most intelligent
person I have ever known.
871
00:47:45,950 --> 00:47:48,213
Thank you.
872
00:47:53,827 --> 00:47:57,004
Judge Helfrick: Mr. Shields.
873
00:47:57,048 --> 00:47:59,877
You said
he showed compassion.
874
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:01,922
Yes.
875
00:48:01,966 --> 00:48:04,142
More compassion than you
remember him showing
876
00:48:04,185 --> 00:48:05,273
when you were friends?
877
00:48:06,971 --> 00:48:08,581
Yes.
878
00:48:08,624 --> 00:48:11,540
Did he shed tears
in your meeting?
879
00:48:13,978 --> 00:48:15,762
He did.
880
00:48:15,805 --> 00:48:17,938
Have you ever known
Brady Hartsfield to cry before?
881
00:48:23,074 --> 00:48:24,597
-Not really.
-"Not really."
882
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,512
This is a yes-or-no
question.
883
00:48:26,555 --> 00:48:27,992
Ever known him
to cry before?
884
00:48:31,299 --> 00:48:32,735
-No.
-Mm-hmm.
885
00:48:32,779 --> 00:48:35,129
So he was different
that way.
886
00:48:35,173 --> 00:48:37,305
Yeah, he was different
thatway.
887
00:48:37,349 --> 00:48:39,090
In your meeting
with Brady yesterday,
888
00:48:39,133 --> 00:48:41,048
did he strike you
as a man of conscience?
889
00:48:42,963 --> 00:48:44,704
He did.
890
00:48:44,747 --> 00:48:46,706
And, uh,
during your friendship,
891
00:48:46,749 --> 00:48:48,621
did you ever accuse him
of lacking a conscience?
892
00:48:52,581 --> 00:48:54,235
I may have said that
a few times.
893
00:48:54,279 --> 00:48:58,892
So the old Brady, you questioned
whether he had a conscience,
894
00:48:58,936 --> 00:49:02,548
and the Brady that you met
with yesterday is different?
895
00:49:04,767 --> 00:49:07,031
Okay.So it's possible
896
00:49:07,074 --> 00:49:11,165
that Brady Hartsfield
is fundamentally different
897
00:49:11,209 --> 00:49:14,168
than the Brady you knew
as a work colleague.
898
00:49:14,212 --> 00:49:17,171
Look, I said
he changed some.
899
00:49:17,215 --> 00:49:18,651
We've all changed.
900
00:49:20,653 --> 00:49:25,223
I'll never be the same
because of what he did.
901
00:49:25,266 --> 00:49:28,966
He'll never be the same
because of what he did
902
00:49:29,009 --> 00:49:31,098
and because of what
was done to him.
903
00:49:36,538 --> 00:49:39,411
But in my core,
904
00:49:39,454 --> 00:49:42,762
I'm the same as I always was,
and so is he.
905
00:49:42,805 --> 00:49:45,156
Well, the Brady Hartsfield
I talk with
906
00:49:45,199 --> 00:49:47,114
says he can't recognize
907
00:49:47,158 --> 00:49:50,683
the Brady who committed
these crimes.
908
00:49:50,726 --> 00:49:52,772
He really struggles
with the idea
909
00:49:52,815 --> 00:49:54,817
that he could've
committed such acts.
910
00:49:54,861 --> 00:49:57,516
Did, uh, you see that
struggle in him yesterday?
911
00:50:01,955 --> 00:50:03,435
I did.
912
00:50:03,478 --> 00:50:05,002
Thank you.
913
00:50:07,830 --> 00:50:10,529
Judge Helfrick:
Redirect, Mr. Montez?
914
00:50:10,572 --> 00:50:12,705
No, Your Honor.
915
00:50:12,748 --> 00:50:15,621
Thank you.
You may step down.
916
00:50:15,664 --> 00:50:17,405
Lou: Thank you.
917
00:50:38,122 --> 00:50:39,775
I do not forgive you.
918
00:50:43,083 --> 00:50:44,345
I do not.
919
00:51:52,892 --> 00:51:54,981
Reporter Smith: We can confirm
that Brady Hartsfield
920
00:51:55,024 --> 00:51:58,506
was pronounced dead at 3:06
p.m. by the county coroner.
921
00:51:58,550 --> 00:52:01,683
Cause of death was a single
gunshot wound to the head.
922
00:52:01,727 --> 00:52:03,772
And what we're learning,
Jeanine,
923
00:52:03,816 --> 00:52:06,079
is that the weapon that was
used by Lou Linklatter
924
00:52:06,123 --> 00:52:09,909
was, in fact, a 3-D-printable
gun that she made herself.
925
00:52:09,952 --> 00:52:11,519
And the ultimate irony?
926
00:52:11,563 --> 00:52:13,217
We're told Brady Hartsfield
927
00:52:13,260 --> 00:52:15,132
taught her
how to make that weapon.
928
00:52:15,175 --> 00:52:17,308
Anchor Jeanine: How was she able
to get it into court?
929
00:52:17,351 --> 00:52:18,831
Because it was plastic,
930
00:52:18,874 --> 00:52:20,833
and even the bullet
was ceramic,
931
00:52:20,876 --> 00:52:22,748
so the metal detectors
were of no use.
932
00:52:22,791 --> 00:52:25,751
And it's a wide variety of
reactions, as you can imagine,
933
00:52:25,794 --> 00:52:28,536
but the overriding sentiment
is relief.
934
00:52:28,580 --> 00:52:30,843
Mr. Mercedes is dead,
935
00:52:30,886 --> 00:52:35,239
and that makes a lot of people
around here very happy indeed.
936
00:52:35,282 --> 00:52:37,632
-Come on, guys!
-Come on! Let's go!
937
00:52:37,676 --> 00:52:39,547
-Yeah!
-Let's go!
938
00:52:39,591 --> 00:52:40,809
-Pass it!
-Come on! Pass it!
939
00:52:40,853 --> 00:52:41,941
-Pass it!
-Shoot it!
940
00:52:54,214 --> 00:52:56,825
Ahhh, look at you.
941
00:52:56,869 --> 00:53:01,743
Monet in his garden.
Sort of. Hey, hi.
942
00:53:01,787 --> 00:53:03,571
Hello. How are you?
943
00:53:03,615 --> 00:53:05,269
That's -- That's a really --
That looks good.
944
00:53:05,312 --> 00:53:06,966
It's coming along.
945
00:53:07,009 --> 00:53:11,275
- Thanks.
- Nice portrait of, uh, Fred.
946
00:53:11,318 --> 00:53:14,103
Really.
947
00:53:14,147 --> 00:53:16,193
I mean, what --
-What?
948
00:53:16,236 --> 00:53:19,500
I'm here.
Why don't you paint my portrait?
949
00:53:19,544 --> 00:53:21,546
I would love that.
950
00:53:21,589 --> 00:53:24,331
I, uh -- I-I -- I could never
capture your radiance.
951
00:53:24,375 --> 00:53:26,203
-Oh. Oh, my God.
-Look. Look at this.
952
00:53:26,246 --> 00:53:28,074
Stop. You are such
a bullshit artist.
953
00:53:28,117 --> 00:53:29,380
-Stop!
-What? I could--
954
00:53:29,423 --> 00:53:31,251
Stop.
955
00:53:31,295 --> 00:53:32,861
I don't have the skill.
956
00:53:32,905 --> 00:53:34,907
Can't even paint
a fucking tortoise.
957
00:53:45,265 --> 00:53:47,746
Yep.
958
00:53:47,789 --> 00:53:50,705
Probably see you later, then,
I'd say, will I?
959
00:53:50,749 --> 00:53:52,925
Oh, sorry. Okay.
960
00:53:52,968 --> 00:53:56,233
I didn't realize
I'm intruding on your, uh --
961
00:53:56,276 --> 00:53:58,235
your little
artist situation here.No, no, no. I didn't mean --
962
00:53:58,278 --> 00:54:00,193
No, no.Okay, no, you carry --
you carry on.
963
00:54:00,237 --> 00:54:01,629
I know
when I'm not wanted.
964
00:54:01,673 --> 00:54:03,631
-I didn't say that.
-Oh, listen,
965
00:54:03,675 --> 00:54:06,373
I'm heading out
to Seattle again
966
00:54:06,417 --> 00:54:09,333
to see
Allie next week.
967
00:54:09,376 --> 00:54:10,725
Oh, yeah?
968
00:54:10,769 --> 00:54:13,467
You, um --
You feel like joining?
969
00:54:13,511 --> 00:54:15,513
How'd she feel
about that?
970
00:54:15,556 --> 00:54:18,037
Well, it was her idea,
actually.
971
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:19,865
Really?
972
00:54:19,908 --> 00:54:21,214
Mm-hmm.
973
00:54:21,258 --> 00:54:22,955
Yeah! I'd love to.
974
00:54:22,998 --> 00:54:24,913
All right.
975
00:54:24,957 --> 00:54:27,525
I'll send you
my flight details.All right.
976
00:54:27,568 --> 00:54:30,049
Okay, all right.
Carry on, there.
977
00:54:30,092 --> 00:54:31,442
Enjoy.
978
00:54:44,672 --> 00:54:46,892
-Come on! Center it!
-Go, go!
979
00:55:02,734 --> 00:55:03,952
Boy: Shoot! Shoot!
72024
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