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Phil spector interview.
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Roll 28.
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Ok. Good. Go.
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Good. Here we go.
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There. Yeah.
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What is this?
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He's wearing a button
that says "back"
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to mono."
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"Back to mono."
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Yeah. All right.
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"The wall of sound."
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All it is is, it's reverb.
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You cook it down.
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You mix it down time and again.
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Oh, that reverb... what
it is is, it's mud. It's...
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Good morning, maggie. Hello.
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Excuse me. Could I have
a glass of water, please?
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Of course.
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Thank you.
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He has us in there... 40
musicians, 20 hours a day,
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working on one note... One note...
Until it's perfect.
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Thank you.
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Thank you very much.
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Not at all. Not at all.
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Excuse me. Here you are.
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Thank you. You're welcome.
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Wasn't much of a singer, but..
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Ok.
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Linda!
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Where's she staying? Someone!
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Get her bags to the hotel!
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Get her installed.
Whatever she needs!
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New york's on the phone.
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About what?
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Your television show.
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Television show... it can wait.
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The gun, the blood
spatter, that whole wall.
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Lana clarkson, suicide threats,
depression... james,
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you know what I'm looking for.
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Did they feed you on the plane?
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What do you think I am... crazy?
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Get her something to eat.
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I don't need anything to eat.
I need a doctor.
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Nick stavros, rpi...
Linda kenney baden.
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Hi. I won't touch you.
I'm very sick.
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I need the case laws on televised,
federal and california.
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Grounds for exception,
grounds for appeal.
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At least we can slow them down.
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Linda!
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Could you get me
a cup of tea, please?
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Here's the part never cut in.
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Raw footage.
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Phil spector interview.
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Roll 28.
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That was fantastic.
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Some wonderful material.
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I'm so grateful to you.
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Oh, thank you.
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Excellent.
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Who is the girl in the picture?
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I don't know her name.
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Phil didn't, either.
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Phil... he can attract a girl?
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Why not? He can attract a girl.
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He can get her to his house.
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Afterwards, he's on his track.
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How can he keep her there?
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You tell me.
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With a gun.
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He thinks he has to
have a gun..
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I think we've covered
just about everything.
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Ah.
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Some questions at... Ok.
All right, all right.
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Linda, please.
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Come on. We've got 3 days'
worth to do in half an hour.
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How far this goes back.
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To the desert.
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To the moors...
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Thank you for coming.
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You said that.
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"Telegraph," london,
fax to phil.
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Day of the shooting.
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"Lost genius of rock 'n' roll".
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Yeah, I know about the article.
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What you don't know...
Read the article...
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He's been cold sober
for 10 years.
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Cold sober. That night, house
of blues and lana clarkson.
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Uh-huh.
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Article sets him off.
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Hmm. That's a shame.
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It sets him off.
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Yes, but how does that
help your case?
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My case, in court
tomorrow, all right?
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How does it help your case
that he's nuts and he's drunk?
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He still put the gun
in the girl's mouth.
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We've got right there...
Yeah, I read that.
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Maggie, play her the fucking
audiotape, first officers?
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I read it.
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I want you to hear it.
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Phil and the first officers.
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Let's go. Uh.
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This piece of shit!
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I don't know what
the fucking problem was,
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but she certainly had no right
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to come to my fucking castle and
blow her fucking head open!
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I don't see the case.
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No? He's drunk. He's enraged.
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He mouths off to the cops.
Why is he enraged?
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You heard it.
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Is that a man who
just shot somebody?
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That's hearsay. They'll
never allow it into court.
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"The people vs. Cruz".
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James?
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"The people vs. Lou."
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He put the gun in the
girl's mouth... No.
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He pulled the trigger.
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Where's the blood? Where's
the massive blood spatter?
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I don't know where the
massive blood spatter is.
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This is my vacation in venice...
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First-class tickets,
5-star hotel.
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You know, we have a
meeting with him tonight.
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Not me.
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You're here. Why are you here?
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I do it for a living.
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I'm listening.
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62 grand worth of a vacation.
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My hourly rate, out of the
office, door to door,
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24 hours a day.
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30 grand on top,
and I'll give you 3 days,
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if that's any use to you.
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Thank you.
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So is that any use to you?
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You give me your assessment.
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And you put back my vacation
and you pay for it.
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Stop negotiating.
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And I need a shot.
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Will you find me a doctor?
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James!
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James, drive her to the hotel.
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A doctor when she gets there.
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You walk her to the room.
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Other side have those outtakes?
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Not yet.
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They're filing to admit the
testimony of 5 women...
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Yeah, I read the
grand jury testimony.
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This is gonna be your office.
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Oh, 5 women. Count them.
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5 women on oath before
the grand jury.
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"He pulled a gun on me.
He wanted sex."
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Cold sober for 10 years, and
now he's just getting...
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Well, so what, bruce? You ever
hear the phrase "to hell with it?"
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You've got a gun nut.
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He goes around waving
loaded guns.
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You've got 5 women
come out of the woodwork...
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"He did the same thing to me."
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You've got the chauffeur.
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The chauffeur is on record...
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"I think I just
killed somebody."
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Well, exclude the woman.
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How? On ewol?
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You bet.
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No, I say the judge
allows it under caitlyn.
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In which case it's reversible.
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I'm doing a tv show.
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Really? About the case?
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No, independent of the case.
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Oh, great.
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Now, the chauffeur.
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Bruce, bruce, bruce,
he shot the girl.
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He shot the girl, all right?
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He's a freak.
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Those are the public
who don't hate him.
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He's a genius.
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He transformed the
entire music industry.
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What's that... what's that
kid's name... james?
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James. James?
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I'm linda kenney baden.
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Could you tell me what this is?
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I'll give you a dollar
if you can tell me.
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Is it something
to do with music?
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Why would you say that?
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Because the case
has to do with music.
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No, no, no.
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The case has nothing
to do with music.
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No. This is an insert that allows
a 45 rpm record to be played
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on an lp phonograph, ok?
Now... Ok.
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What is this?
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Something to do with
an early computer.
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Mmm.
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Put it on your key chain.
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It's a piece of the past.
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Mmm.
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This kid doesn't know
what a phonograph is,
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a 45, a... a transistor radio.
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Nobody on the jury is gonna
know anything except your guy's
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a murderer and a freak.
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The girl killed herself.
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Well, maybe, but I don't
want to take that case.
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There... I don't like that case.
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There is no evidence.
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There's no blood
spatter on his cuff.
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Well, you've got... as
to the blood spatter...
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There is no blood spatter
on the back wall. Why?
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Why?
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Linda, the bullet
lodged in the skull.
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The skull was intact.
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All the blood in the
brain matter had to come
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out of the mouth toward him.
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Exact model of
the coat he wore.
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Exact model.
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Blood spatter?
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You find it. Go ahead.
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It's more than a pinpoint, bruce.
I read the report.
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It's more than one, and...
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And it is inconsistent with
anything but a defensive...
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Bruce...
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A defensive movement. And the angle
of the shot is inconsistent.
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The only way he walks...
I think he's not guilty.
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Of course you do. The only way,
however, that he walks is what?
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She shot herself.
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That's right. Why?
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She was depressed.
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We have a history
of e-mails, comments...
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They let o.J. Go. They
let michael jackson go.
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They are not gonna let him go.
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They will be trying him for
the murder of o.J.'S wife,
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and they will find him guilty.
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Put on the tape.
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The girl was crazy, linda.
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She made this tape to promote
herself as an actress.
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Go ahead.
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Dead broke tower,
the one and only...
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I need some groceries
at the hotel, please.
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Little richard.
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Richard, which do you prefer?
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"Little" or "richard"?
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Folks just call me
whatever it is that
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jumps in their head at that
moment, then come out with it.
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There was this one man
at a club I was playing
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down in memphis, my
house at one time.
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And I'd like to
thank you, dizzy,
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for having me on the show.
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Well, dizzy, follow me?
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Yes, richard, I do.
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Your car is here.
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Well, its... thanks.
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Dilly. "Richard" or "little,"
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whichever you prefer.
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Tell us, las vegas, what we...
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The girl, bruce... you show
that in the courtroom,
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what do you get?
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You get sympathy.
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Your only realpolitik,
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your only shot is
to attack the girl,
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and that's a loser because
the jury turns away from you
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like that.
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Ok.
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I got a guy...
Sure looks guilty.
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You tell me, what do I do?
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Sex symbol... He changed
the tune as he came to me.
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He's entitled to a defense.
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What would you tell
your students?
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Would you say, "don't take
the case if it offends"
264
00:10:30,195 --> 00:10:31,195
your sensibilities,"
265
00:10:31,229 --> 00:10:32,563
or is he presumed innocent?
266
00:10:32,597 --> 00:10:34,031
Because you're screwed up,
267
00:10:34,065 --> 00:10:36,467
because you read the same
gossip everybody else did,
268
00:10:36,501 --> 00:10:37,968
so you think he's guilty.
269
00:10:38,002 --> 00:10:38,969
All right, they
think he's guilty.
270
00:10:39,003 --> 00:10:41,138
What are you going
to do about it?
271
00:10:41,172 --> 00:10:42,740
I won't attack the girl.
272
00:10:42,774 --> 00:10:45,109
Oh, yeah. Gonna happen.
Hallelujah!
273
00:10:45,143 --> 00:10:49,113
Hallelujah. Yeah.
274
00:10:57,922 --> 00:10:59,757
Linda!
275
00:10:59,791 --> 00:11:01,592
Linda!
276
00:11:04,496 --> 00:11:08,298
I can't try the case I wish I
had, the defendant I wish I had,
277
00:11:08,333 --> 00:11:12,035
and I inherited the jury.
278
00:11:12,070 --> 00:11:14,104
In a locked room,
he shot the girl.
279
00:11:14,139 --> 00:11:15,806
What can I do to defend him?
280
00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:16,774
He's got cancer, linda.
281
00:11:16,808 --> 00:11:18,048
You don't go
to a dermatologist.
282
00:11:18,076 --> 00:11:19,343
You got cancer, you come to me.
283
00:11:19,377 --> 00:11:20,778
Now, what is my case?
284
00:11:20,812 --> 00:11:22,212
Bruce, new york's on the phone.
285
00:11:22,247 --> 00:11:24,114
It's urgent.
286
00:11:25,617 --> 00:11:26,784
I won't attack the girl.
287
00:11:26,818 --> 00:11:28,852
Then you tell me.
288
00:11:28,887 --> 00:11:30,327
The doctor
will meet us at the hotel.
289
00:11:32,824 --> 00:11:34,458
Thank you.
290
00:11:39,464 --> 00:11:40,964
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
291
00:11:44,569 --> 00:11:46,637
The guns were about the girls.
292
00:11:46,671 --> 00:11:50,374
This guy, his feet
size is zero.
293
00:11:50,408 --> 00:11:52,342
I mean, he couldn't
get laid in a whorehouse
294
00:11:52,377 --> 00:11:53,577
with a money machine.
295
00:11:53,611 --> 00:11:56,513
Now... now he's the starmaker.
296
00:11:56,548 --> 00:12:00,083
He's fucking the ronettes,
darlene love, cher...
297
00:12:00,118 --> 00:12:02,786
Who the fuck knows who he's
fucking... angela lansbury.
298
00:12:02,821 --> 00:12:04,755
I don't know.
299
00:12:04,789 --> 00:12:07,624
Now look. His power
is starting to wane.
300
00:12:07,659 --> 00:12:10,093
Do you think he's
gonna give that up?
301
00:12:10,128 --> 00:12:11,295
He's following ronnie around.
302
00:12:11,329 --> 00:12:12,863
She goes for a cup of coffee,
303
00:12:12,897 --> 00:12:15,299
he's got 3 private
detectives on her trail.
304
00:12:15,333 --> 00:12:16,800
Mm-hmm.
305
00:12:16,835 --> 00:12:19,636
The whole thing was about,
"how do I keep these broads?"
306
00:12:19,671 --> 00:12:21,705
But he didn't
want to keep them.
307
00:12:21,739 --> 00:12:22,940
That's true.
308
00:12:22,974 --> 00:12:24,208
Why?
309
00:12:24,242 --> 00:12:25,375
Ha.
310
00:12:25,410 --> 00:12:28,679
He didn't know what love was.
311
00:12:28,713 --> 00:12:33,951
He knew what pussy was, and
that's as close as he came.
312
00:12:33,985 --> 00:12:35,652
What's your favorite
of all the things
313
00:12:35,687 --> 00:12:37,487
that you mixed in those days?
314
00:12:37,522 --> 00:12:39,790
Well, I mean, "river
deep", mountain high."
315
00:12:39,824 --> 00:12:40,858
Yes.
316
00:12:40,892 --> 00:12:41,859
That was the anthem.
317
00:12:41,893 --> 00:12:43,760
Fantastic. Yeah.
318
00:12:43,795 --> 00:12:45,796
Probably one of the greatest
recordings ever made.
319
00:12:45,830 --> 00:12:47,297
At least, that's
what phil would say.
320
00:12:47,332 --> 00:12:50,667
Yeah. So I suppose you
guys were editing
321
00:12:50,702 --> 00:12:52,703
everything with a razor?
322
00:12:52,737 --> 00:12:53,937
Well, it was the old days.
323
00:12:53,972 --> 00:12:56,440
You know, you got to clip
everything, and it was mono,
324
00:12:56,474 --> 00:12:57,708
so you know.
325
00:12:57,742 --> 00:12:59,543
Quarter-inch tape?
326
00:12:59,577 --> 00:13:05,249
Quarter-inch tape, reel to
reel, 8 track, live sound.
327
00:13:05,283 --> 00:13:07,618
It was more realistic to be live
than there was mono.
328
00:13:09,254 --> 00:13:10,320
I've always wanted to know...
329
00:13:10,355 --> 00:13:12,389
What's the difference
between rich...
330
00:13:42,954 --> 00:13:44,688
His father.
331
00:13:44,722 --> 00:13:47,257
He says his father shot
himself when he was 5,
332
00:13:47,292 --> 00:13:48,926
but philip was 5 in 1944.
333
00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,694
He didn't shoot himself
when he was 5.
334
00:13:50,728 --> 00:13:52,796
He killed himself
when phil was 10... 1949.
335
00:13:52,830 --> 00:13:53,797
How? With a gun?
336
00:13:53,831 --> 00:13:55,165
Uh-uh.
337
00:13:55,199 --> 00:13:58,135
Took the gas pipe, went into
the garage, turned the car on.
338
00:13:58,169 --> 00:13:59,202
Mmm.
339
00:13:59,237 --> 00:14:00,237
You ever meet him?
340
00:14:00,271 --> 00:14:01,772
No, ma'am.
341
00:14:01,806 --> 00:14:03,307
I'm linda. Please.
342
00:14:13,785 --> 00:14:14,866
Here we go.
343
00:14:17,789 --> 00:14:20,691
mr. spector
prefers you to walk.
344
00:14:23,094 --> 00:14:25,462
Just the woman. Just the woman.
345
00:14:25,496 --> 00:14:27,331
It's ok.
346
00:17:28,112 --> 00:17:33,283
♪ Anybody here seen my
old friend abraham ♪
347
00:17:33,317 --> 00:17:38,655
♪ and can you tell me
where he's gone? ♪
348
00:17:38,689 --> 00:17:46,563
"Abraham, martin,
and john," 1968,
349
00:17:46,597 --> 00:17:49,332
and then they threw in
bobby... bobby kennedy.
350
00:17:49,367 --> 00:17:53,603
Now, we know lincoln
freed the slaves,
351
00:17:53,638 --> 00:17:58,108
dr. king fought for
equality, john...
352
00:17:58,142 --> 00:18:00,502
Screw the nazi spy
and anything else
353
00:18:00,511 --> 00:18:02,746
that would hold still
for 10 minutes.
354
00:18:02,780 --> 00:18:06,850
What the hell did bobby do?
355
00:18:06,884 --> 00:18:08,785
He fucked with the teamsters.
356
00:18:08,819 --> 00:18:10,220
Get over here.
357
00:18:10,254 --> 00:18:17,127
Now, if you look at the dates,
"abraham, martin, and john"
358
00:18:17,161 --> 00:18:22,199
was recorded june 2, 1968.
359
00:18:22,233 --> 00:18:27,070
That's 3 days before
they shot bobby.
360
00:18:27,104 --> 00:18:31,241
They went back, chucked
him in as garnish.
361
00:18:31,275 --> 00:18:34,411
Traiga bebidas a la sala
de música, por favor!
362
00:18:34,445 --> 00:18:35,512
SÃ, señor.
363
00:18:35,546 --> 00:18:37,414
Here.
364
00:18:37,448 --> 00:18:42,485
Now, teddy... teddy
kennedy drowns a girl
365
00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,487
on martha's vineyard.
366
00:18:44,522 --> 00:18:47,390
Walks away from
the scene of the crime...
367
00:18:47,425 --> 00:18:51,328
Hid under a blanket 72 hours...
368
00:18:51,362 --> 00:18:57,200
A teenage girl who he
had befriended...
369
00:18:57,235 --> 00:19:01,705
Drowns her in a
volkswagen... 300 million
370
00:19:01,739 --> 00:19:05,308
americans, nobody says "boo."
371
00:19:05,343 --> 00:19:09,145
And p. S... teddy kennedy,
what in the world
372
00:19:09,180 --> 00:19:11,181
had he ever accomplished?
373
00:19:11,215 --> 00:19:14,451
His family tossed him the bone.
374
00:19:14,485 --> 00:19:17,354
"Oh, you can't get
your masseuse license?
375
00:19:17,388 --> 00:19:20,523
"Here, sit in the senate
40 years.
376
00:19:20,558 --> 00:19:24,194
Have fun."
377
00:19:24,228 --> 00:19:29,399
A girl shoots herself
in my house,
378
00:19:29,433 --> 00:19:33,770
and that is the legacy my
children will live with.
379
00:19:33,804 --> 00:19:35,038
Come on in.
380
00:19:35,072 --> 00:19:39,409
If I go in there, will you
keep me there by force?
381
00:19:39,443 --> 00:19:42,012
Here we go.
382
00:19:43,347 --> 00:19:45,649
So where's bruce?
383
00:19:45,683 --> 00:19:47,917
Bruce had to go back
to new york.
384
00:19:47,952 --> 00:19:48,918
Ah... ooh.
385
00:19:48,953 --> 00:19:50,787
He went back to new york.
386
00:19:50,821 --> 00:19:52,756
God, you keep it cold in here.
387
00:19:52,790 --> 00:19:55,025
No, I need it cold.
388
00:19:55,059 --> 00:19:56,259
You know why I like bruce?
389
00:19:56,294 --> 00:19:57,594
Why?
390
00:19:57,628 --> 00:20:00,297
He got john gotti off.
391
00:20:00,331 --> 00:20:02,032
Stone killer, mafia chief,
392
00:20:02,066 --> 00:20:06,503
bruce walked him out of
court, guilty as errol flynn.
393
00:20:06,537 --> 00:20:07,771
Oh, you are cold.
394
00:20:07,805 --> 00:20:08,805
Mmm.
395
00:20:08,839 --> 00:20:12,575
Come on. We'll warm you up.
396
00:20:12,610 --> 00:20:14,144
Here. Here you go.
397
00:20:15,813 --> 00:20:20,784
You know, I always wanted
to get out of all of this.
398
00:20:20,818 --> 00:20:22,585
You know?
399
00:20:24,789 --> 00:20:28,591
Lawrence de arabia...
He got out.
400
00:20:28,626 --> 00:20:30,427
You know?
401
00:20:30,461 --> 00:20:35,165
I wanted to be an interpreter
in the united nations.
402
00:20:35,199 --> 00:20:41,171
People scoffed at that, but...
It's a matter of record.
403
00:20:41,205 --> 00:20:43,139
I always spoke spanish.
404
00:20:43,174 --> 00:20:48,211
You'll find it in my love of
the latino beat, in my songs.
405
00:20:48,245 --> 00:20:51,081
After the beatles, there
was still a lot to do.
406
00:20:51,115 --> 00:20:52,982
I didn't want to do it.
407
00:20:53,017 --> 00:20:55,085
Just didn't want to do it.
408
00:20:58,856 --> 00:21:01,458
You didn't want to do it? Why?
409
00:21:01,492 --> 00:21:03,360
I'd done it.
410
00:21:03,394 --> 00:21:05,328
What more was there left
for me to do?
411
00:21:05,363 --> 00:21:06,296
What?
412
00:21:06,330 --> 00:21:09,666
The girls, the money,
the fame. No.
413
00:21:09,700 --> 00:21:13,236
You know, I thought
I'd move to belize.
414
00:21:13,270 --> 00:21:15,205
Is that a fantasy?
415
00:21:15,239 --> 00:21:17,374
Everything I've done in my
life has been a fantasy.
416
00:21:17,408 --> 00:21:18,742
I made it happen.
417
00:21:18,776 --> 00:21:21,211
I couldn't keep you here
by force
418
00:21:21,245 --> 00:21:23,713
because they took all my guns.
419
00:21:27,985 --> 00:21:32,322
You know, it never escaped
me that people thought,
420
00:21:32,356 --> 00:21:39,129
or were taught to think,
that I was a clown
421
00:21:39,163 --> 00:21:40,764
or freak of some sort
422
00:21:40,798 --> 00:21:46,703
and that my accomplishments
were somehow not to be admired.
423
00:21:46,737 --> 00:21:51,741
But in their breadth of
number, the sign of a freak.
424
00:21:54,111 --> 00:21:56,146
But I understand.
425
00:21:56,180 --> 00:21:59,582
It's called "envy."
426
00:21:59,617 --> 00:22:03,787
I believe it's even
mentioned in the bible.
427
00:22:03,821 --> 00:22:07,891
Extraordinary
accomplishments, linda,
428
00:22:07,925 --> 00:22:12,328
transforms the grateful
into an audience
429
00:22:12,363 --> 00:22:16,666
and the envious, linda,
into a mob.
430
00:22:16,700 --> 00:22:17,801
You watch.
431
00:22:17,835 --> 00:22:20,703
See if I'm not right.
432
00:22:20,738 --> 00:22:25,408
It stems from a feeling
of inadequacy
433
00:22:25,443 --> 00:22:28,812
which is a lack of courage.
434
00:22:28,846 --> 00:22:30,246
Yeah, I understand.
435
00:22:30,281 --> 00:22:35,985
I had it, too, but I dealt
with it by doing something.
436
00:22:36,020 --> 00:22:37,854
You know?
437
00:22:37,888 --> 00:22:39,956
What was I to do?
438
00:22:39,990 --> 00:22:41,191
Did I tear anybody down?
439
00:22:41,225 --> 00:22:44,894
No.
440
00:22:44,929 --> 00:22:46,863
They were no threat to me.
441
00:22:46,897 --> 00:22:49,132
I was too busy.
442
00:22:50,835 --> 00:22:51,801
It's pretty, eh?
443
00:22:51,836 --> 00:22:52,836
Hmm.
444
00:22:52,870 --> 00:22:53,937
Here you go.
445
00:22:53,971 --> 00:22:56,139
Thank you.
446
00:22:56,173 --> 00:22:59,742
Why do you have so many guns?
447
00:22:59,777 --> 00:23:00,844
I might need one.
448
00:23:00,878 --> 00:23:02,912
Why would you need
more than one?
449
00:23:02,947 --> 00:23:03,947
I don't know.
450
00:23:03,948 --> 00:23:05,248
How many pairs of
shoes do you have?
451
00:23:05,282 --> 00:23:06,282
Mmm.
452
00:23:06,317 --> 00:23:08,251
How many feet?
453
00:23:08,285 --> 00:23:10,420
But they're gone.
454
00:23:10,454 --> 00:23:13,256
And I'm not going to shoot
you, so why don't we sit down?
455
00:23:13,290 --> 00:23:16,326
Mmm. Thank you.
456
00:23:16,360 --> 00:23:19,729
So how do you feel about guns?
457
00:23:19,763 --> 00:23:20,763
How do you feel about them?
458
00:23:20,798 --> 00:23:22,098
I can take them or leave them.
459
00:23:22,132 --> 00:23:26,402
Yeah, but if you leave them and
somebody pulls one on you,
460
00:23:26,437 --> 00:23:30,106
well, there you are... Anybody
ever pull a gun on you?
461
00:23:30,140 --> 00:23:31,774
You think I shot
the girl, linda?
462
00:23:31,809 --> 00:23:32,775
Hmm.
463
00:23:32,810 --> 00:23:33,776
You're smart.
464
00:23:33,811 --> 00:23:35,011
High praise, indeed.
465
00:23:35,045 --> 00:23:36,045
You think I shot the girl?
466
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,947
Your chauffer is on record.
467
00:23:37,982 --> 00:23:41,651
"My boss came out. I think
I just killed somebody."
468
00:23:50,127 --> 00:23:51,060
Tomorrow's "times,"
469
00:23:51,095 --> 00:23:54,998
today's "times," you're quoted
470
00:23:55,032 --> 00:23:57,433
as denouncing "the
hitler-like d.A."
471
00:23:57,468 --> 00:23:59,669
And his storm
trooper henchmen."
472
00:23:59,703 --> 00:24:02,705
Do you let people
screw with you?
473
00:24:02,740 --> 00:24:07,544
That's the white piano. That's
where john wrote "imagine."
474
00:24:07,578 --> 00:24:13,182
Lenny, lenny bruce, he
would sit here at the end,
475
00:24:13,217 --> 00:24:14,717
talking about the
fourth amendment.
476
00:24:14,752 --> 00:24:17,053
That's how nuts
they had him at the end.
477
00:24:17,087 --> 00:24:23,059
Shooting smack, talking
about the commerce clause.
478
00:24:23,093 --> 00:24:24,961
Wisest man I ever met.
479
00:24:24,995 --> 00:24:27,964
There's john, john lennon,
clubbed up with his wife at
480
00:24:27,998 --> 00:24:33,236
the dakota, prior to which he was living
in 21/2 rooms in the east village,
481
00:24:33,270 --> 00:24:37,240
head shaved, hadn't bathed
in a year and a half.
482
00:24:37,274 --> 00:24:38,775
This genius.
483
00:24:38,809 --> 00:24:39,809
What's this?
484
00:24:39,843 --> 00:24:41,144
Thank you, vernon.
485
00:24:43,247 --> 00:24:44,647
Do we know him?
486
00:24:44,682 --> 00:24:47,684
As your attorney,
I must counsel you not,
487
00:24:47,718 --> 00:24:51,254
whatever the provocation,
not to talk to anyone.
488
00:24:51,288 --> 00:24:54,290
They're indicting me
for murder.
489
00:24:57,895 --> 00:24:59,329
All right, sorry.
490
00:24:59,363 --> 00:25:02,398
"You... you lost that
loving feeling".
491
00:25:02,433 --> 00:25:03,466
What was it?
492
00:25:03,500 --> 00:25:05,501
Are you kidding me?
493
00:25:05,536 --> 00:25:06,736
What was it?
494
00:25:06,770 --> 00:25:11,040
It was... it was the
greatest song ever released.
495
00:25:11,075 --> 00:25:15,011
I sold over 2.5 million copies.
496
00:25:15,045 --> 00:25:17,180
You say the jews invented
the music business.
497
00:25:17,214 --> 00:25:19,949
The jews didn't invent
the music business.
498
00:25:19,984 --> 00:25:21,084
I invented the music business.
499
00:25:21,118 --> 00:25:25,154
7th avenue, new york,
there's a statue,
500
00:25:25,189 --> 00:25:26,823
a little old
jewish guy, yarmulke,
501
00:25:26,857 --> 00:25:28,658
bent over a sewing machine.
502
00:25:28,692 --> 00:25:30,960
He's that guy who invented
ready to wear.
503
00:25:30,995 --> 00:25:33,329
I invented the music business.
504
00:25:33,364 --> 00:25:34,764
Where's the statue of me?
505
00:25:34,798 --> 00:25:38,935
Where's the presidential medal?
506
00:25:44,475 --> 00:25:46,209
Sidney pottier broke
the color barrier?
507
00:25:46,243 --> 00:25:48,478
Are you kidding me?
508
00:25:48,512 --> 00:25:51,147
He was playing superman.
509
00:25:51,181 --> 00:25:53,082
You want to know who he was?
510
00:25:53,117 --> 00:25:57,520
He was an uptight frightened
white guy's version
511
00:25:57,554 --> 00:25:58,855
of a black man.
512
00:25:58,889 --> 00:26:00,490
I put the ronettes
in their home.
513
00:26:00,524 --> 00:26:04,927
I put black america
in the white home.
514
00:26:04,962 --> 00:26:07,864
The first time you got
felt up, the first time
515
00:26:07,898 --> 00:26:11,868
you got somebody's
hand on you... guess what.
516
00:26:11,902 --> 00:26:13,469
You were listening
to one of my songs.
517
00:26:13,504 --> 00:26:15,672
Did you kill that girl?
518
00:26:15,706 --> 00:26:18,741
I thought attorneys
never ask that question.
519
00:26:18,776 --> 00:26:20,810
I'm the christmas help.
I'm going home.
520
00:26:20,844 --> 00:26:22,545
Ah.
521
00:26:22,579 --> 00:26:25,048
"I think I just
killed somebody."
522
00:26:25,082 --> 00:26:30,153
My chauffeur at the time
barely spoke english.
523
00:26:30,187 --> 00:26:33,322
I came out, having
seen what I saw,
524
00:26:33,357 --> 00:26:37,927
and I said, "I think
I should call somebody."
525
00:26:37,961 --> 00:26:40,296
Is that true, philip?
526
00:26:40,330 --> 00:26:41,597
That's what my mother
used to call me.
527
00:26:41,632 --> 00:26:44,100
Did you shoot her?
528
00:26:44,134 --> 00:26:47,003
Lana clarkson?
529
00:26:47,037 --> 00:26:48,771
Listen. Listen.
530
00:26:48,806 --> 00:26:49,872
Come.
531
00:26:49,907 --> 00:26:53,342
Let me tell you about
lana clarkson.
532
00:26:53,377 --> 00:27:00,616
All her life, all she
wanted was this thing.
533
00:27:00,651 --> 00:27:06,656
It was a drug. She thought
it was called "fame,"
534
00:27:06,690 --> 00:27:12,695
and to put here in here, in
hollywood, with this drug all around,
535
00:27:12,730 --> 00:27:15,598
why don't you put a diabetic
in a chocolate shop?
536
00:27:15,632 --> 00:27:18,034
Why don't you hire
a recovering coke-head
537
00:27:18,068 --> 00:27:21,404
to work in a meth lab?
538
00:27:21,438 --> 00:27:24,440
Did hollywood kill marilyn?
539
00:27:24,475 --> 00:27:30,413
She killed herself with help
from an unfulfillable longing.
540
00:27:30,447 --> 00:27:36,052
Or maybe she just got drunk
and lost count of the pills.
541
00:27:36,086 --> 00:27:37,954
Did you ever do that?
542
00:27:37,988 --> 00:27:42,525
Lana clarkson, at her death,
had more prescription
543
00:27:42,559 --> 00:27:45,027
pharmaceuticals in her
than walgreen's.
544
00:27:45,062 --> 00:27:46,596
No, no.
545
00:27:46,630 --> 00:27:48,765
The toxicology screens
showed she had only...
546
00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:49,799
Bullshit. Bullshit!
547
00:27:49,833 --> 00:27:52,001
I looked in her eyes!
548
00:27:52,035 --> 00:27:54,303
She had the equivalent of two
vicodin and some antihistamine.
549
00:27:54,338 --> 00:27:56,005
Come on, the prosecution...
550
00:27:56,039 --> 00:27:59,442
Do you think I don't know
a hophead when I see one?
551
00:27:59,476 --> 00:28:00,510
.14.
552
00:28:00,544 --> 00:28:02,278
All right, that's it.
553
00:28:02,312 --> 00:28:04,080
She was gone.
554
00:28:04,114 --> 00:28:05,114
Please.
555
00:28:05,149 --> 00:28:06,149
Please.
556
00:28:06,183 --> 00:28:10,219
I can't go on about that stuff.
557
00:28:10,254 --> 00:28:11,788
I'm done.
558
00:28:13,457 --> 00:28:16,192
Gonna wear that cross tomorrow?
559
00:28:19,630 --> 00:28:22,265
It's a mayan artifact.
560
00:28:22,299 --> 00:28:24,500
I have a question, linda.
561
00:28:24,535 --> 00:28:28,738
If jesus was so big,
why did they kill him?
562
00:28:28,772 --> 00:28:30,006
Because he was the son of god.
563
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,440
No!
564
00:28:31,475 --> 00:28:33,576
Because he was still
the son of god.
565
00:28:33,610 --> 00:28:35,778
"Still" is not news.
566
00:28:35,813 --> 00:28:39,448
Somebody is "still"
the greatest beauty, actor,
567
00:28:39,483 --> 00:28:42,552
record producer... you can't
put that in the paper.
568
00:28:42,586 --> 00:28:44,020
What is news, then?
569
00:28:44,054 --> 00:28:47,323
News is that he likes
little boys,
570
00:28:47,357 --> 00:28:51,661
that he's a thief, that
he cheats on his wife.
571
00:28:51,695 --> 00:28:55,665
Or in the absence of any
fault, that he's just
572
00:28:55,699 --> 00:28:57,934
too goddamn big
for his fucking britches,
573
00:28:57,968 --> 00:29:01,671
which is why
they killed christ.
574
00:29:01,705 --> 00:29:04,006
See this here?
575
00:29:04,041 --> 00:29:06,943
"You lost that loving
feeling", this was...
576
00:29:06,977 --> 00:29:09,545
This was the best
song ever released.
577
00:29:09,580 --> 00:29:11,180
They told me it was too long.
578
00:29:11,215 --> 00:29:14,217
Came in at 4 minutes
and 5 seconds.
579
00:29:14,251 --> 00:29:18,321
Nobody could release
a cut over 21/2 minutes.
580
00:29:18,355 --> 00:29:20,189
So, what did I do?
581
00:29:20,224 --> 00:29:22,525
I redid the labels.
582
00:29:22,559 --> 00:29:27,363
"Running time 2 minutes,
48 seconds."
583
00:29:27,397 --> 00:29:31,500
I didn't change the length.
I changed the label.
584
00:29:31,535 --> 00:29:35,204
They played it.
It made everybody rich.
585
00:29:35,239 --> 00:29:38,875
It's not, linda, that you
have to go against the tide.
586
00:29:38,909 --> 00:29:43,145
Some people... some people,
that's all they can do.
587
00:29:43,180 --> 00:29:44,447
You understand?
588
00:29:44,481 --> 00:29:49,952
Our friend lawrence...
5'4", s&m freak.
589
00:29:49,987 --> 00:29:54,090
Greatest general
that ever lived.
590
00:29:54,124 --> 00:29:56,926
End of his life, he retired,
591
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:02,164
took on a false name,
enlisted as a private.
592
00:30:02,199 --> 00:30:03,466
What did he want?
593
00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:05,334
Money, fame?
594
00:30:05,369 --> 00:30:07,703
They made him sick.
595
00:30:07,738 --> 00:30:11,073
What he wanted was what
he had in the desert.
596
00:30:11,108 --> 00:30:15,044
What he wanted was
privacy, you understand?
597
00:30:15,078 --> 00:30:16,345
They say I'm standoffish.
598
00:30:16,380 --> 00:30:18,714
I'm not standoffish.
599
00:30:18,749 --> 00:30:21,150
I'm inaccessible.
600
00:30:21,184 --> 00:30:22,818
Always have been.
601
00:30:22,853 --> 00:30:25,688
Is it... is it that
I don't like people?
602
00:30:25,722 --> 00:30:27,690
I don't know.
603
00:30:27,724 --> 00:30:32,261
I never spend
any time with them.
604
00:30:32,296 --> 00:30:35,798
Ah. Ok.
605
00:30:35,832 --> 00:30:37,700
Ah, special for you.
606
00:30:37,734 --> 00:30:38,935
Thank you.
607
00:30:38,969 --> 00:30:39,936
Here.
608
00:30:39,970 --> 00:30:42,138
I can't even do this for you.
609
00:30:42,172 --> 00:30:44,774
My hands are shaking.
610
00:30:44,808 --> 00:30:48,077
I'm taking these drugs,
neuroleptic drugs.
611
00:30:48,111 --> 00:30:54,283
And a side effect is,
it mimics ms.
612
00:30:54,318 --> 00:30:56,919
So I can't play anymore.
613
00:31:00,857 --> 00:31:05,561
I don't see how they thought
I could have held a gun.
614
00:32:00,784 --> 00:32:02,118
Number 42
on the "rolling stones" list
615
00:32:02,152 --> 00:32:04,253
of the 500 greatest
songs of all time,
616
00:32:04,287 --> 00:32:07,289
"be my baby," 1963,
by phil spector.
617
00:32:07,324 --> 00:32:09,759
Spector is arraigned today in
los angeles superior court
618
00:32:09,793 --> 00:32:11,994
for the murder of the actress...
Cut it off, will you?
619
00:32:12,029 --> 00:32:13,629
Bruce is in the car with phil?
620
00:32:13,663 --> 00:32:16,565
That's right.
621
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,234
It says he said,
"we should call somebody."
622
00:32:18,268 --> 00:32:19,568
Yeah, well, that's what
he told me he said.
623
00:32:19,603 --> 00:32:21,137
How do you get that
into the record?
624
00:32:21,171 --> 00:32:23,139
You break the chauffeur or
you put him on the stand.
625
00:32:23,173 --> 00:32:24,774
Spector? Mm-hmm.
626
00:32:24,808 --> 00:32:25,775
How can you do that?
627
00:32:25,809 --> 00:32:26,849
You can't.
628
00:32:30,514 --> 00:32:31,814
I thought you were going home.
629
00:32:31,848 --> 00:32:33,349
It's the only hard
evidence they have.
630
00:32:33,383 --> 00:32:35,651
Everything else can
be argued both sides.
631
00:32:35,719 --> 00:32:37,086
He's a freak.
632
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,854
They're gonna convict him of,
"I just don't like you."
633
00:32:38,889 --> 00:32:43,159
Well, you break the
chauffeur on the stand.
634
00:32:43,193 --> 00:32:44,627
What?
635
00:32:44,661 --> 00:32:46,462
As a cop, I'd say da's got
the chauffeur jammed up.
636
00:32:46,496 --> 00:32:47,730
On illegal immigration?
637
00:32:47,764 --> 00:32:49,799
No, you're not using
enough gun.
638
00:32:49,833 --> 00:32:51,667
My money, they told
this guy, look.
639
00:32:51,701 --> 00:32:54,203
Here's a video of you
helping a woman.
640
00:32:54,237 --> 00:32:55,604
Oh, look.
She don't walk too well.
641
00:32:55,639 --> 00:32:57,173
Has she been drugged?
642
00:32:57,207 --> 00:32:59,909
Oh, and here you are helping
her to go into the house
643
00:32:59,943 --> 00:33:02,678
of this man who was paying
you, from which house
644
00:33:02,712 --> 00:33:03,813
she emerged dead.
645
00:33:03,847 --> 00:33:04,814
Guess what.
646
00:33:04,848 --> 00:33:06,449
You're an accessory to murder.
647
00:33:06,483 --> 00:33:09,185
They've got your guy jammed up
tighter than kelsey's nuts.
648
00:33:09,219 --> 00:33:12,219
Well, then he's gonna
need a good lawyer.
649
00:34:01,671 --> 00:34:03,572
Back, back. Step aside.
650
00:34:03,607 --> 00:34:04,773
Stay back.
651
00:34:04,808 --> 00:34:06,208
Phil.
652
00:34:06,243 --> 00:34:08,177
Giovanetta ricci of teleitalia.
653
00:34:08,211 --> 00:34:13,849
Phil, I'd like to be inside
your mind for just 5 minutes.
654
00:34:13,884 --> 00:34:15,484
You wouldn't like it.
655
00:34:15,519 --> 00:34:18,287
Phil!
656
00:34:22,993 --> 00:34:24,393
mr. jackson.
657
00:34:24,427 --> 00:34:26,428
Thank you, your honor.
658
00:34:26,463 --> 00:34:28,130
Good morning, everybody.
659
00:34:28,165 --> 00:34:30,199
We spent a lot of time
over the last few days
660
00:34:30,233 --> 00:34:32,234
talking about what you've
read about the case,
661
00:34:32,269 --> 00:34:33,669
what you've heard
about the case,
662
00:34:33,703 --> 00:34:36,739
what you know, what you think
you know about the case.
663
00:34:36,773 --> 00:34:39,441
This is my opportunity to talk
with you for a few minutes
664
00:34:39,476 --> 00:34:42,945
about what we expect the evidence
to show, the actual facts
665
00:34:42,979 --> 00:34:45,948
in the case, to show.
666
00:34:45,982 --> 00:34:48,617
And that evidence,
ladies and gentlemen,
667
00:34:48,652 --> 00:34:52,721
is going to paint
a very, very clear picture.
668
00:34:52,756 --> 00:34:56,292
The picture of a man,
philip spector,
669
00:34:56,326 --> 00:34:59,128
who, when he's confronted
with the right circumstances,
670
00:34:59,162 --> 00:35:01,897
when he's confronted
with the right situation,
671
00:35:01,932 --> 00:35:03,265
turns sinister and deadly.
672
00:35:03,300 --> 00:35:04,833
You all right? Yeah.
673
00:35:04,868 --> 00:35:06,788
The evidence is going
to paint a picture of a man
674
00:35:06,803 --> 00:35:12,174
who on february 3, 2003, put a loaded
pistol in lana clarkson's mouth
675
00:35:12,209 --> 00:35:16,612
inside her mouth,
and shot her to death.
676
00:35:16,646 --> 00:35:19,548
This is what
the evidence will show.
677
00:35:19,583 --> 00:35:23,485
But to understand more
fully, more globally, why
678
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,456
philip spector would have done
what he did, how lana clarkson
679
00:35:27,490 --> 00:35:29,925
fell victim to this man, you're
going to be introduced to evidence
680
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:34,997
of the defendant's very
rich history of violence,
681
00:35:35,031 --> 00:35:38,234
a history of violence
against women,
682
00:35:38,268 --> 00:35:41,270
a history of violence
involving guns.
683
00:35:41,304 --> 00:35:44,039
Ladies and gentlemen, in other
words, through the presentation
684
00:35:44,074 --> 00:35:45,841
of the evidence in this case,
you're going to be introduced
685
00:35:45,875 --> 00:35:49,178
to the real philip spector.
686
00:35:49,212 --> 00:35:53,749
On february 3, 2003,
at about 5:00 in the morning,
687
00:35:53,783 --> 00:35:58,487
a single gunshot cracked the
silence of the normally very quiet
688
00:35:58,521 --> 00:36:01,023
community of
alhambra, california.
689
00:36:33,356 --> 00:36:34,990
Hey, phil!
690
00:36:35,025 --> 00:36:36,625
Hey, phil!
691
00:36:36,660 --> 00:36:38,160
Back to mono!
692
00:36:38,194 --> 00:36:39,962
Back to mono, phil!
693
00:36:39,996 --> 00:36:41,930
Back to mono!
694
00:36:41,965 --> 00:36:43,832
Back to mono, phil!
695
00:36:43,867 --> 00:36:45,601
Back to mono.
696
00:36:45,635 --> 00:36:46,869
Thank you for saying that.
697
00:36:46,903 --> 00:36:49,271
You're welcome,
and that's blood!
698
00:36:49,306 --> 00:36:52,408
That's lana clarkson's blood!
699
00:36:52,442 --> 00:36:57,279
That's lana clarkson's
blood, you fucking murderer!
700
00:36:57,314 --> 00:36:58,354
You freak!
701
00:36:59,349 --> 00:37:02,718
Fucking murderer!
702
00:37:02,752 --> 00:37:04,186
That's her blood!
703
00:37:04,220 --> 00:37:06,522
And so therefore, what?
704
00:37:06,556 --> 00:37:09,792
It comes down to whether she
shot herself or he shot her.
705
00:37:09,826 --> 00:37:12,027
But... Wasn't nobody
else in the room.
706
00:37:12,062 --> 00:37:13,782
What if it were impossible
that he shot her?
707
00:37:13,797 --> 00:37:15,764
The we're back to, why
did she kill herself?
708
00:37:15,799 --> 00:37:17,866
And he had pulled guns
on women in the past.
709
00:37:17,901 --> 00:37:20,202
He ain't putting that
toothpaste back in the tube.
710
00:37:20,236 --> 00:37:21,670
That information is in the air.
711
00:37:21,705 --> 00:37:22,871
It's not going back.
712
00:37:22,906 --> 00:37:24,873
And you've got the...
We've seen all the...
713
00:37:24,908 --> 00:37:27,343
We've seen... you got, um... can
you play that video?
714
00:37:27,377 --> 00:37:28,844
Of course.
715
00:37:32,449 --> 00:37:36,051
He locked the door and he
held me there at gunpoint.
716
00:37:36,086 --> 00:37:40,622
He said, "if you leave,
I'll blow your head off."
717
00:37:40,657 --> 00:37:44,626
I was standing there in
the lobby, in the door.
718
00:37:44,661 --> 00:37:48,864
I turned around, and there
was a gun pointing at me.
719
00:37:48,898 --> 00:37:49,998
I said, "stop that."
720
00:37:50,033 --> 00:37:51,033
This is going nowhere.
721
00:37:51,067 --> 00:37:52,835
Why is it going nowhere?
722
00:37:52,869 --> 00:37:55,604
Because the only way to walk
our guy out of the court...
723
00:37:55,638 --> 00:38:00,109
Because the only question
those folks want to know is,
724
00:38:00,143 --> 00:38:01,443
if she pulled the trigger,
you had better tell me
725
00:38:01,478 --> 00:38:07,049
why she did beyond all doubt,
because I do not like your guy.
726
00:38:07,083 --> 00:38:08,951
Those people in there, all their
lives have got the short end
727
00:38:08,985 --> 00:38:10,185
from the more powerful.
728
00:38:10,220 --> 00:38:12,955
There's nothing
redeeming in our guy.
729
00:38:12,989 --> 00:38:15,124
Given the choice, they're
gonna go for payback time.
730
00:38:15,158 --> 00:38:16,358
On what evidence?
731
00:38:16,393 --> 00:38:18,093
You don't have to convince me.
732
00:38:18,128 --> 00:38:21,563
You have to convince them.
733
00:38:21,598 --> 00:38:23,499
I thought you were
going back to new york.
734
00:38:23,533 --> 00:38:25,968
I'm staying on
for the hotel food.
735
00:38:26,002 --> 00:38:27,803
Get on board
because our case is
736
00:38:27,837 --> 00:38:30,973
she's a suicidal pillhead,
and we have letters
737
00:38:31,007 --> 00:38:34,309
and we have e-mails, and we...
738
00:38:34,344 --> 00:38:38,680
I turned around, and there
was a gun pointing at me.
739
00:38:38,715 --> 00:38:41,450
I said, "stop that."
740
00:38:41,484 --> 00:38:44,953
I said, "put it down."
741
00:38:44,988 --> 00:38:47,756
"Stop. Just..."
742
00:38:47,791 --> 00:38:49,091
Stop.
743
00:38:49,125 --> 00:38:53,228
He was screaming,
"you're not going.
744
00:38:53,263 --> 00:38:55,597
"I'm not unlocking the door.
745
00:38:55,632 --> 00:38:57,232
"I'll blow you away.
746
00:38:57,267 --> 00:38:58,901
I'll shoot you."
747
00:39:06,242 --> 00:39:11,513
Now... now how many of you
think he's guilty?
748
00:39:20,790 --> 00:39:24,726
What if, with all the facts
that seem to be against him...
749
00:39:24,761 --> 00:39:25,694
The girl fucking shot herself.
750
00:39:25,728 --> 00:39:28,797
What if we have testimony
751
00:39:28,832 --> 00:39:32,634
that he'd said in public... that
phil spector had said in public
752
00:39:32,669 --> 00:39:35,537
to lana clarkson... You're
on record as saying
753
00:39:35,572 --> 00:39:38,240
you're never happy
unless you're unhappy.
754
00:39:38,274 --> 00:39:39,374
Yeah.
755
00:39:39,409 --> 00:39:40,542
So does that make me
so unusual?
756
00:39:40,577 --> 00:39:41,677
mr. spector?
757
00:39:41,711 --> 00:39:44,580
How many millions of people..
758
00:39:44,614 --> 00:39:46,949
That's good, and
how many millions...
759
00:39:46,983 --> 00:39:53,789
Freud was, god bless him,
essentially a confidence man.
760
00:39:53,823 --> 00:39:56,825
He didn't invent a cure.
He invented a disease.
761
00:39:56,860 --> 00:39:57,893
- Phil!
- Yeah?
762
00:39:57,927 --> 00:40:00,529
Where do you want it from?
763
00:40:00,563 --> 00:40:03,332
Take it from measure 14.
764
00:40:03,366 --> 00:40:05,968
Freud said there was no
cure but that perhaps
765
00:40:06,002 --> 00:40:08,470
he could transform
unbearable unhappiness
766
00:40:08,505 --> 00:40:11,139
into simple human misery.
767
00:40:11,174 --> 00:40:12,875
Jack daniels can do that.
768
00:40:12,909 --> 00:40:14,610
Phil, where
do you want it from?
769
00:40:14,644 --> 00:40:15,611
Oh, man.
770
00:40:15,645 --> 00:40:16,912
A job can do that.
771
00:40:16,946 --> 00:40:18,347
Please, guys!
772
00:40:18,381 --> 00:40:19,715
What are you guys doing, man?
773
00:40:19,749 --> 00:40:22,217
Hey, malingerers,
what do you want?
774
00:40:22,252 --> 00:40:24,920
You want one of them lounge
chairs, floats in your pool?
775
00:40:24,954 --> 00:40:26,188
When did this come in?
776
00:40:26,222 --> 00:40:28,223
A little... We just got that.
777
00:40:28,258 --> 00:40:29,558
Are you cold?
778
00:40:29,592 --> 00:40:31,293
Listen, you want to
rest, go ahead.
779
00:40:31,327 --> 00:40:35,297
Rest until you feel like
picking it up at measure 14.
780
00:40:35,331 --> 00:40:36,298
I don't care.
781
00:40:36,332 --> 00:40:37,266
Let me know.
782
00:40:37,300 --> 00:40:39,301
You know, freud... Freud?
783
00:40:39,335 --> 00:40:40,869
What's freud gonna do?
784
00:40:40,904 --> 00:40:43,238
What is he gonna do...
Change the past?
785
00:40:43,273 --> 00:40:45,007
Tell the fucking client
to indulge his feelings?
786
00:40:45,041 --> 00:40:48,343
I... you know what I say? No.
787
00:40:48,378 --> 00:40:50,746
If he's got the courage,
let the guy go out
788
00:40:50,780 --> 00:40:52,214
and make something of his life.
789
00:40:52,248 --> 00:40:53,282
It can be done, you know?
790
00:40:53,316 --> 00:40:54,449
Phil, where
do you want it from?
791
00:40:54,484 --> 00:40:56,685
Yeah? Yeah. Oh, barry,
what do you want?
792
00:40:56,686 --> 00:40:58,387
You want it from measure 14?
793
00:40:58,421 --> 00:41:00,322
No, you know what I want?
794
00:41:00,356 --> 00:41:03,325
I want you motherfuckers...
I'm coming.
795
00:41:03,359 --> 00:41:04,993
Hold on a minute, all right?
796
00:41:05,028 --> 00:41:08,797
Here you go. Hey.
797
00:41:08,831 --> 00:41:09,798
We'll be with you
in a minute. Don't worry.
798
00:41:09,832 --> 00:41:14,503
Don't be stupid...
Ok, motherfuckers.
799
00:41:14,537 --> 00:41:17,606
I told you you should
finish college, huh?
800
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,275
Join the marines, anything
rather than throw yourself
801
00:41:20,310 --> 00:41:24,079
on my... Phil, ok...
Boundless mercy.
802
00:41:24,113 --> 00:41:25,948
Right?
803
00:41:25,982 --> 00:41:29,551
Take you in from the
cold... and you know I did.
804
00:41:29,586 --> 00:41:33,855
You should consider it a
mercy I killed a lot of you,
805
00:41:33,890 --> 00:41:35,791
save you the shame,
walter, of ruining
806
00:41:35,825 --> 00:41:38,560
this simple fucking song.
807
00:41:39,662 --> 00:41:44,099
Oh! What... Oh, my goodness.
808
00:41:44,133 --> 00:41:45,934
Send out for chinese.
809
00:41:45,969 --> 00:41:48,003
We're gonna be here a while.
810
00:41:48,037 --> 00:41:52,507
Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. See that?
811
00:41:52,542 --> 00:41:54,443
Lesson learned.
812
00:41:54,477 --> 00:41:57,112
Ok, pretty.
We're ready for you. Mwah.
813
00:41:57,146 --> 00:41:58,714
Oh, you moved.
814
00:41:58,748 --> 00:41:59,715
Where were you?
815
00:41:59,749 --> 00:42:00,749
Ha.
816
00:42:00,783 --> 00:42:01,717
Let me see. Oh, yeah.
817
00:42:01,751 --> 00:42:02,718
Here you go.
818
00:42:02,752 --> 00:42:04,419
Thank you.
819
00:42:04,454 --> 00:42:06,722
Let him go out and
do something with his life.
820
00:42:06,756 --> 00:42:08,423
Phil, what do you want?
821
00:42:08,458 --> 00:42:14,129
Uh, play till the lemon
chicken comes.
822
00:42:15,164 --> 00:42:16,965
You're sick?
823
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,000
End of a case,
if you're not sick,
824
00:42:18,034 --> 00:42:19,134
you're not working hard enough.
825
00:42:19,168 --> 00:42:20,902
It's not the end of the case.
826
00:42:20,937 --> 00:42:22,070
You're killing yourself.
827
00:42:22,105 --> 00:42:23,872
Oh, what? I wish I could
say the same for you.
828
00:42:23,906 --> 00:42:25,040
I was in new york.
829
00:42:25,074 --> 00:42:26,742
My caseload is not lim...
830
00:42:26,776 --> 00:42:29,011
I have clients I left
in new york, all right?
831
00:42:29,045 --> 00:42:30,379
Hmm.
832
00:42:30,413 --> 00:42:31,613
What is it you love this guy,
833
00:42:31,648 --> 00:42:33,348
all of a sudden you're
working yourself to death?
834
00:42:33,383 --> 00:42:34,449
He's our client!
835
00:42:34,484 --> 00:42:35,951
Oh, that's right. You told me.
836
00:42:35,985 --> 00:42:37,285
He covered you with a blanket.
837
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:38,353
- Here you go.
- You're a cheap date.
838
00:42:38,388 --> 00:42:39,855
Oh, fuck you, bruce.
839
00:42:39,889 --> 00:42:41,590
You've got a case that
should have been thrown out.
840
00:42:41,624 --> 00:42:44,459
The cops and the da are
trying him on the o.J. Case.
841
00:42:44,494 --> 00:42:45,927
The prosecution has nothing.
842
00:42:45,962 --> 00:42:47,963
Except everyone's
conviction that he's guilty.
843
00:42:47,997 --> 00:42:49,431
We've got ballistic evidence.
844
00:42:49,465 --> 00:42:52,267
They trot up their
experts; We trot up ours.
845
00:42:52,301 --> 00:42:54,603
At the end of the day
the jury finds him guilty,
846
00:42:54,637 --> 00:42:58,140
and we have wasted their time...
Unless we indict the girl.
847
00:42:58,174 --> 00:42:59,775
Is he guilty?
848
00:42:59,809 --> 00:43:02,611
Not beyond a reasonable doubt, but
why don't you just show the yokels
849
00:43:02,645 --> 00:43:05,681
your two-toned shirts, your
cufflinks, fix your tie,
850
00:43:05,715 --> 00:43:08,150
and say the law protects
all equally?
851
00:43:08,184 --> 00:43:09,351
Is that untrue?
852
00:43:09,385 --> 00:43:10,819
It's true if you win.
853
00:43:10,853 --> 00:43:12,721
Not true for freaks.
854
00:43:12,755 --> 00:43:14,256
But for him, off he goes.
855
00:43:14,290 --> 00:43:16,158
Is that what this
is about... freaks?
856
00:43:16,192 --> 00:43:17,125
Very good, bruce.
857
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:18,241
That's right. That's right.
858
00:43:18,261 --> 00:43:21,029
It's all about me.
It's about me.
859
00:43:21,064 --> 00:43:22,998
You know, the poor geek,
the bookworm...
860
00:43:23,032 --> 00:43:24,366
She gets judged
in the schoolyard,
861
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,235
doesn't get a fair trial,
except our guy does,
862
00:43:27,270 --> 00:43:30,572
and the facts do not
support a conviction.
863
00:43:30,606 --> 00:43:32,240
I don't give a shit who he is.
864
00:43:32,275 --> 00:43:34,976
I don't give a shit
what he's done before.
865
00:43:37,447 --> 00:43:39,514
Ok.
866
00:43:39,549 --> 00:43:43,518
Marvin gaye... his father
shot him, right?
867
00:43:43,553 --> 00:43:48,623
Sam cooke... in bed with some
girl, husband comes home,
868
00:43:48,658 --> 00:43:49,725
bam, bam, bam!
869
00:43:49,759 --> 00:43:51,927
End of story.
870
00:43:51,961 --> 00:43:53,562
Who gives a shit?
871
00:43:53,596 --> 00:43:57,599
Lana clarkson shot herself.
I was there.
872
00:43:57,633 --> 00:44:01,036
Now they're treating me worse than
they treated mark david chapman.
873
00:44:01,070 --> 00:44:03,972
His name plate reads
"what a shame,"
874
00:44:04,006 --> 00:44:05,540
and he shot john lennon.
875
00:44:05,575 --> 00:44:07,409
And I, who happened
to be in the same room
876
00:44:07,443 --> 00:44:13,181
when this girl shot herself,
877
00:44:13,216 --> 00:44:16,451
I am a monster the likes
of which never saw
878
00:44:16,486 --> 00:44:18,787
the light of day.
879
00:44:18,821 --> 00:44:22,524
You... you want to explain
that to me?
880
00:44:22,558 --> 00:44:25,527
So, what is it, then?
881
00:44:25,561 --> 00:44:27,562
What are we talking about here?
882
00:44:27,597 --> 00:44:29,197
Hatred.
883
00:44:29,232 --> 00:44:31,133
What do they hate about me?
884
00:44:31,167 --> 00:44:35,237
I'm alive.
885
00:44:35,271 --> 00:44:37,706
You know the saying
"the good die young," right?
886
00:44:37,740 --> 00:44:40,041
Why?
887
00:44:40,076 --> 00:44:44,146
Because the file is closed.
888
00:44:44,180 --> 00:44:50,952
I understand. Have you said that...
This is the story.
889
00:44:50,987 --> 00:44:52,754
The girl exceeded
her shelf life.
890
00:44:52,789 --> 00:44:55,724
She's in l.a. she's down on her luck.
She is broke.
891
00:44:55,758 --> 00:44:56,725
Spector didn't help her?
892
00:44:56,759 --> 00:44:57,999
That's not his job.
893
00:44:58,027 --> 00:44:58,994
You're thinking of christ.
He's not christ.
894
00:44:59,028 --> 00:45:01,496
He's a guy. He
wanted affirmation.
895
00:45:01,531 --> 00:45:02,497
He wanted sex.
896
00:45:02,532 --> 00:45:04,432
68-year-old guy.
It's the same thing.
897
00:45:04,467 --> 00:45:05,467
What is he... pussy-crazed?
898
00:45:05,501 --> 00:45:07,702
Ok, she's working in some bar.
899
00:45:07,737 --> 00:45:09,838
A guy comes in.
She brushes him off.
900
00:45:09,872 --> 00:45:11,473
The boss says, "do you
know who that is?"
901
00:45:11,474 --> 00:45:13,308
So, what we have
is a car crash.
902
00:45:13,342 --> 00:45:14,309
She's lonely.
903
00:45:14,343 --> 00:45:15,710
What is she supposed to do?
904
00:45:15,745 --> 00:45:17,179
Hire the goodyear blimp?
905
00:45:17,213 --> 00:45:18,513
"Please help me. I'm lonely"?
906
00:45:18,548 --> 00:45:20,015
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
907
00:45:20,049 --> 00:45:21,817
What, are you arguing my case?
908
00:45:21,851 --> 00:45:23,451
Why would I kill that girl?
909
00:45:23,486 --> 00:45:24,619
You were drunk.
910
00:45:24,654 --> 00:45:26,488
I was drunk.
911
00:45:26,522 --> 00:45:29,090
I was drunk half my life.
912
00:45:29,125 --> 00:45:30,058
These women.
913
00:45:30,092 --> 00:45:31,393
Who are these women?
914
00:45:31,427 --> 00:45:35,597
These women come out and say
I pulled a gun on them.
915
00:45:35,631 --> 00:45:38,934
Where were they at the time
of the supposed offense?
916
00:45:38,968 --> 00:45:42,070
No. They came out
of the woodwork years later.
917
00:45:42,104 --> 00:45:43,104
They came out at the time.
918
00:45:43,139 --> 00:45:44,439
No. Bullshit.
919
00:45:44,473 --> 00:45:47,976
They... no. They didn't even
press their case. Come on!
920
00:45:48,010 --> 00:45:50,512
They came out when it was in
their interest to come out...
921
00:45:50,546 --> 00:45:53,748
They came out when there was
something in it for them.
922
00:45:53,783 --> 00:45:55,283
What was in it? Publicity.
923
00:45:55,318 --> 00:45:56,384
What did lana clarkson want?
924
00:45:56,419 --> 00:45:57,552
Publicity.
925
00:45:57,587 --> 00:45:58,720
What do they all want?
926
00:45:58,754 --> 00:46:01,656
People... people think
it's contagious...
927
00:46:01,691 --> 00:46:06,761
You can get it by hanging
around someone who's got it.
928
00:46:06,796 --> 00:46:11,032
I don't know this, and that idiot
whom I would have helped...
929
00:46:11,067 --> 00:46:12,400
Why not?
930
00:46:12,435 --> 00:46:16,571
Came in here and ruined my life
by sticking a gun
931
00:46:16,606 --> 00:46:19,107
in her mouth.
932
00:46:19,141 --> 00:46:21,376
For... for what?
933
00:46:21,410 --> 00:46:23,879
For what?
934
00:46:23,913 --> 00:46:25,180
For what is this retribution?
935
00:46:25,214 --> 00:46:28,183
For what am I being punished?
936
00:46:28,217 --> 00:46:31,653
For being the most
successful music producer
937
00:46:31,687 --> 00:46:33,622
in the history of the world.
938
00:46:33,656 --> 00:46:35,523
And if you think
that's bullshit,
939
00:46:35,558 --> 00:46:38,760
then you're not
as smart as I know you are.
940
00:46:41,731 --> 00:46:47,569
I am... I am so sorry
that that girl,
941
00:46:47,603 --> 00:46:51,506
that her life
was full of suffering.
942
00:46:51,540 --> 00:46:55,644
I'm sorry she died.
943
00:46:55,678 --> 00:46:57,545
I didn't do it.
944
00:47:00,383 --> 00:47:03,551
The state says
the gun was in her mouth.
945
00:47:03,586 --> 00:47:05,854
If he were 10 feet away,
could he have done it?
946
00:47:05,888 --> 00:47:08,790
The prosecution says you didn't
go to her, you didn't touch her.
947
00:47:08,824 --> 00:47:10,825
Bruce.
948
00:47:15,598 --> 00:47:18,300
He throws up his hands
to avoid the paint.
949
00:47:18,334 --> 00:47:23,371
His coat has one spot of
paint on it, 10 feet away.
950
00:47:27,877 --> 00:47:31,112
This is an exact copy if
the coat mr. spector wore
951
00:47:31,147 --> 00:47:33,982
on the night of the
shooting, with a replica
952
00:47:34,016 --> 00:47:38,186
of the blood spatter...
4 spots and 2 pinpricks...
953
00:47:38,220 --> 00:47:39,621
Of blood on the coat.
954
00:47:39,655 --> 00:47:42,524
You're free to examine it
if you wish.
955
00:47:50,466 --> 00:47:53,435
Here is what happens
to somebody standing
956
00:47:53,469 --> 00:47:57,539
within arm's length
of such an explosion.
957
00:47:57,573 --> 00:48:00,075
When the shot comes
from inside the mouth,
958
00:48:00,109 --> 00:48:02,143
the brain explodes.
959
00:48:02,178 --> 00:48:06,581
When the skull is intact,
as here, the brain matter
960
00:48:06,615 --> 00:48:13,188
the blood, is ejected through
the nose and the mouth.
961
00:48:13,222 --> 00:48:17,425
It seems to me mr. spector had
to have been standing a minimum
962
00:48:17,460 --> 00:48:21,229
of 10 feet from the event for
him to have avoided being
963
00:48:21,263 --> 00:48:26,334
painted... painted with brain
matter and blood.
964
00:48:26,369 --> 00:48:27,702
What do you think?
965
00:48:28,804 --> 00:48:34,242
Ronnie spector interview.
966
00:48:34,276 --> 00:48:37,912
I believe... I believe
that phil at one time
967
00:48:37,947 --> 00:48:43,385
was very much like you or me,
and at the start... at the start
968
00:48:43,419 --> 00:48:48,156
of his career he was
talented and devoted
969
00:48:48,190 --> 00:48:51,026
a very serious musician.
970
00:48:51,060 --> 00:48:56,231
But as the press began to write
about him as a great, an icon,
971
00:48:56,265 --> 00:49:03,004
or a genius, he began, yes,
to be affected by it
972
00:49:03,039 --> 00:49:07,675
and it affected him horribly,
like a drug,
973
00:49:07,710 --> 00:49:10,111
for it confused him.
974
00:49:10,146 --> 00:49:14,382
He was tormented... not by
the adulation, no, but by
975
00:49:14,417 --> 00:49:19,454
the question... is it true,
or is it deserved,
976
00:49:19,488 --> 00:49:24,192
and what would the answer
for that be?
977
00:49:24,226 --> 00:49:27,095
There is no answer.
978
00:49:27,129 --> 00:49:28,263
Thank you.
979
00:49:28,297 --> 00:49:30,198
Thank you very much,
mrs. spector.
980
00:49:30,232 --> 00:49:33,068
Uh, this interview was recorded
at everclear studios...
981
00:49:33,102 --> 00:49:36,337
Irene, can you get me the 911
tape... you know, the chauffer?
982
00:49:36,372 --> 00:49:37,739
Mm-hmm.
983
00:49:37,773 --> 00:49:40,842
Put it in the room for
me, let me listen to it?
984
00:49:42,745 --> 00:49:44,045
Thanks.
985
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:45,046
What are you reporting?
986
00:49:45,081 --> 00:49:46,481
Mm-hmm.
987
00:49:46,515 --> 00:49:49,451
My name is adriano,
and I'm phil spector's driver.
988
00:49:49,485 --> 00:49:52,153
I think my boss
just killed somebody.
989
00:49:52,188 --> 00:49:53,755
You think your
boss killed somebody?
990
00:49:53,789 --> 00:49:54,823
Yes.
991
00:49:54,857 --> 00:49:55,757
Why do you think
he killed somebody?
992
00:49:55,791 --> 00:50:00,261
Because he... What's the speech
pathologist, the brazilian,
993
00:50:00,296 --> 00:50:01,262
you know, the interpreter?
994
00:50:01,297 --> 00:50:04,265
Uh... Have you got his number?
Yeah.
995
00:50:04,300 --> 00:50:06,601
Here, let me show you.
996
00:50:06,635 --> 00:50:08,670
It's this guy, this guy here.
997
00:50:08,704 --> 00:50:10,605
Would you get me
a meeting with him?
998
00:50:10,639 --> 00:50:13,007
Sure.
999
00:50:13,042 --> 00:50:14,275
Oh, yeah, sure.
Just give me a second.
1000
00:50:14,310 --> 00:50:15,243
Of course.
1001
00:50:15,277 --> 00:50:17,645
Just got it... 5 pm.
1002
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:18,680
It was nice meeting you.
1003
00:50:18,714 --> 00:50:24,352
You, too. Yes.
1004
00:50:30,893 --> 00:50:32,160
What did they have you
doing in there?
1005
00:50:32,194 --> 00:50:33,161
You're with the defense team?
1006
00:50:33,195 --> 00:50:34,429
I work in the office.
1007
00:50:34,463 --> 00:50:35,930
We were just watching
these cartoons
1008
00:50:35,965 --> 00:50:37,765
about what the blood
would do and so on.
1009
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:38,800
You mean like movies?
1010
00:50:38,834 --> 00:50:39,834
Yeah.
1011
00:50:39,835 --> 00:50:40,802
And what do you think?
1012
00:50:40,836 --> 00:50:41,803
You could show me "dumbo."
1013
00:50:41,837 --> 00:50:43,004
Hey, what does that prove?
1014
00:50:43,038 --> 00:50:45,607
Anyone can make cartoons.
1015
00:50:46,542 --> 00:50:49,511
Thursday, may 7, 2009.
1016
00:50:49,545 --> 00:50:54,315
Retired lapd officer
joseph smith.
1017
00:50:58,254 --> 00:51:00,121
Colt detective special.
1018
00:51:00,156 --> 00:51:03,191
In attendance, retired federal
officer michael brown
1019
00:51:03,225 --> 00:51:05,727
with ms. linda kenney baden.
1020
00:51:05,761 --> 00:51:06,895
One round.
1021
00:51:06,929 --> 00:51:08,196
38 plus "p."
1022
00:51:08,230 --> 00:51:12,133
Hollow point, 110 grain.
1023
00:51:12,168 --> 00:51:13,201
Ok.
1024
00:51:13,235 --> 00:51:15,270
Clear the range.
1025
00:51:59,248 --> 00:52:03,084
Then they say, dr. spitz,
your various credentials...
1026
00:52:03,118 --> 00:52:04,552
We should add my publication.
1027
00:52:04,587 --> 00:52:06,020
Oh, yeah. We will add
your publication.
1028
00:52:06,055 --> 00:52:09,057
35 years in forensics.
1029
00:52:09,091 --> 00:52:10,358
Exactly.
1030
00:52:10,392 --> 00:52:12,360
Now, in your career
you have investigated...
1031
00:52:12,394 --> 00:52:15,697
Over 10,000 instances
of gunshot wounds.
1032
00:52:15,731 --> 00:52:17,131
Fatal.
1033
00:52:17,166 --> 00:52:18,700
Yes, gunshot wounds
to the head.
1034
00:52:18,734 --> 00:52:22,337
Good. And then they
show you the diagram,
1035
00:52:22,371 --> 00:52:23,805
and they say, have you ever...
1036
00:52:23,839 --> 00:52:27,041
In 35 years, that wound,
the angle of that wound
1037
00:52:27,076 --> 00:52:28,610
is absolutely
inconsistent with any
1038
00:52:28,644 --> 00:52:30,278
but a self-inflicted wound.
1039
00:52:30,312 --> 00:52:31,346
I'd put it simpler.
1040
00:52:31,380 --> 00:52:32,814
I don't understand.
1041
00:52:32,848 --> 00:52:36,584
I would say, "I've only ever seen
that as a self-inflicted wound."
1042
00:52:36,619 --> 00:52:37,585
That's right.
1043
00:52:37,620 --> 00:52:39,420
In 95%, that is a self-inflic...
1044
00:52:39,455 --> 00:52:41,456
No. dr. spitz, you
cannot say 95%.
1045
00:52:41,523 --> 00:52:42,657
I beg your pardon.
1046
00:52:42,691 --> 00:52:43,791
I was just using that as
a figure of speech. 90...
1047
00:52:43,826 --> 00:52:45,126
Shh, shh.
1048
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:49,130
Good, but you know, to the
prosecution, you say 95%,
1049
00:52:49,164 --> 00:52:52,300
on cross-examination you've just
admitted that there's a 5% chance
1050
00:52:52,334 --> 00:52:54,068
that it is not
a self-inflicted wound.
1051
00:52:54,103 --> 00:52:56,804
Is there a 5% chance that
somebody else shot her?
1052
00:52:56,839 --> 00:52:57,805
There is no chance.
1053
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,574
Then do not say 95%.
1054
00:52:59,608 --> 00:53:01,676
That was just
a figure of speech.
1055
00:53:01,710 --> 00:53:04,812
Sure, dr. spitz, but you've
seen 10,000 case, right?
1056
00:53:04,847 --> 00:53:07,448
5% of which, the prosecution
will point out,
1057
00:53:07,483 --> 00:53:12,654
is 500 cases in which that is
not a self-inflicted wound.
1058
00:53:12,688 --> 00:53:15,089
It is a self-inflicted wound.
1059
00:53:15,124 --> 00:53:17,759
The we require you
to so testify.
1060
00:53:17,793 --> 00:53:21,229
Now, dr. spitz, we're gonna take
a look at the bullet itself.
1061
00:53:21,263 --> 00:53:22,563
Yes.
1062
00:53:30,572 --> 00:53:33,141
That's good
if they let you use it.
1063
00:53:33,175 --> 00:53:34,275
What?
1064
00:53:34,310 --> 00:53:35,276
Oh, the tape?
1065
00:53:35,311 --> 00:53:36,644
Mm-hmm.
1066
00:53:36,679 --> 00:53:38,713
No, no. I'm not planning
on using the tape.
1067
00:53:38,747 --> 00:53:42,050
No. Listen, it is impossible
that philip took that shot.
1068
00:53:42,084 --> 00:53:44,185
If he had, his coat, his
hair, his everything
1069
00:53:44,219 --> 00:53:46,054
would have been
covered in blood.
1070
00:53:46,088 --> 00:53:48,956
We've got to break that thought
into the jury's mind...
1071
00:53:48,991 --> 00:53:50,525
He could not have done it.
1072
00:53:50,559 --> 00:53:51,859
So you don't show them
the tape?
1073
00:53:51,894 --> 00:53:54,729
No. No. I'm gonna build it.
1074
00:53:54,763 --> 00:53:57,498
Uh-huh.
1075
00:53:57,533 --> 00:54:00,535
I'm gonna build a bulletproof
plexiglas chamber
1076
00:54:00,569 --> 00:54:03,371
and put it in the courtroom.
1077
00:54:03,405 --> 00:54:06,674
I'm gonna put the wound
dummy in the chair
1078
00:54:06,709 --> 00:54:09,811
and a ballistics tech in a lab coat
and have him pull the trigger.
1079
00:54:09,845 --> 00:54:13,581
When they see the booth and the
coat, everything covered in blood,
1080
00:54:13,615 --> 00:54:16,617
the jury sees that, we just
broke their thought processes.
1081
00:54:16,652 --> 00:54:17,785
We won the case.
1082
00:54:17,820 --> 00:54:19,420
The judge will never
allow that.
1083
00:54:19,455 --> 00:54:21,589
"Culpepper v. Volkswagen."
1084
00:54:21,623 --> 00:54:23,191
I've got a hearing
tomorrow at noon.
1085
00:54:23,225 --> 00:54:24,225
She shot herself.
1086
00:54:24,259 --> 00:54:25,460
You bet she did.
1087
00:54:25,494 --> 00:54:26,928
Why?
1088
00:54:26,962 --> 00:54:30,398
Not our problem anymore.
1089
00:54:30,432 --> 00:54:32,300
It's been decided
it's inadmissible.
1090
00:54:32,334 --> 00:54:33,835
What does that mean?
1091
00:54:33,869 --> 00:54:36,104
It means you can't
legally base a demonstration
1092
00:54:36,138 --> 00:54:37,538
on a theory.
1093
00:54:37,573 --> 00:54:39,974
You know what? Why don't they
get a carpenter in there?
1094
00:54:40,008 --> 00:54:41,943
Get a carpenter in there,
build me a coffin,
1095
00:54:41,977 --> 00:54:43,277
have the judge nail me in.
1096
00:54:43,312 --> 00:54:44,278
Philip.
1097
00:54:44,313 --> 00:54:45,279
Get it over with.
1098
00:54:45,314 --> 00:54:48,082
Philip, the california law...
They see that demonstration,
1099
00:54:48,117 --> 00:54:49,450
I walk out of there free.
1100
00:54:49,485 --> 00:54:52,387
It's been decided the
judge will... and can legally
1101
00:54:52,421 --> 00:54:54,021
disallow it.
1102
00:54:54,056 --> 00:54:56,124
Therefore, to make a request
doomed to failure is...
1103
00:54:56,158 --> 00:54:57,792
Why would I kill that girl?
1104
00:54:57,826 --> 00:54:59,527
Why?
1105
00:54:59,561 --> 00:55:03,798
Because she wouldn't what?
1106
00:55:03,832 --> 00:55:05,032
She wouldn't what?
1107
00:55:05,033 --> 00:55:06,634
She would have done
anything I asked.
1108
00:55:06,668 --> 00:55:08,870
That's why she came here.
1109
00:55:08,904 --> 00:55:10,938
No. So forget why.
1110
00:55:10,973 --> 00:55:12,173
How?
1111
00:55:12,207 --> 00:55:13,408
What did I do? What did I say?
1112
00:55:13,442 --> 00:55:14,609
"Here.
1113
00:55:14,643 --> 00:55:17,879
"You hold the gun and you
put it in your mouth.
1114
00:55:17,913 --> 00:55:19,714
I'll pull the trigger."
1115
00:55:19,748 --> 00:55:20,748
Why?
1116
00:55:20,783 --> 00:55:23,351
Because I want to prove
my power.
1117
00:55:23,385 --> 00:55:26,554
My power was she got in
the car.
1118
00:55:26,588 --> 00:55:28,122
That was my power.
1119
00:55:28,157 --> 00:55:33,928
Some wretched, stunted
jewish kid, a poor kid,
1120
00:55:33,962 --> 00:55:36,798
who could have, over the years,
any fucking woman I wanted...
1121
00:55:36,832 --> 00:55:39,233
Oh, I'm gonna throw my
life away for her.
1122
00:55:39,268 --> 00:55:40,268
Why not?
1123
00:55:40,302 --> 00:55:42,036
She was a cocktail waitress.
1124
00:55:43,872 --> 00:55:46,841
In the old days, the
cops, they showed up,
1125
00:55:46,875 --> 00:55:49,310
she shot herself, they
throw her in jail
1126
00:55:49,344 --> 00:55:52,613
for fucking up my
evening, dead as she was.
1127
00:55:52,648 --> 00:55:53,815
I want you to put me
on the stand.
1128
00:55:53,849 --> 00:55:55,616
One-way ticket to the gallows.
1129
00:55:55,651 --> 00:55:59,387
I want to tell what happened.
1130
00:55:59,421 --> 00:56:00,888
What happened?
1131
00:56:00,923 --> 00:56:03,157
You got 12 seconds?
1132
00:56:06,028 --> 00:56:10,932
I was drunk. She was screwed
up out of her mind.
1133
00:56:10,966 --> 00:56:12,900
I took her home.
1134
00:56:12,935 --> 00:56:15,369
She asked me... she asked me
1135
00:56:15,404 --> 00:56:18,539
did I have any guns
around the house?
1136
00:56:18,574 --> 00:56:24,545
I said, "why?" She said,
"I find it exciting."
1137
00:56:24,580 --> 00:56:26,747
Many women do.
1138
00:56:26,782 --> 00:56:29,951
So I showed her the guns,
1139
00:56:29,985 --> 00:56:32,220
I went in the other
room, I came back.
1140
00:56:32,254 --> 00:56:35,156
She's got a gun in her
hand, and she's smiling
1141
00:56:35,190 --> 00:56:39,760
provocatively, right?
1142
00:56:39,795 --> 00:56:43,664
She takes the stupid gun,
puts it in her mouth.
1143
00:56:43,699 --> 00:56:45,867
I scream, "no!"
1144
00:56:48,237 --> 00:56:50,204
The gun goes off.
1145
00:57:01,183 --> 00:57:02,917
It's interesting.
1146
00:57:02,951 --> 00:57:05,753
What?
1147
00:57:05,787 --> 00:57:08,990
The various looks, the wigs.
1148
00:57:09,024 --> 00:57:13,027
A lot of people
think they're wigs.
1149
00:57:13,061 --> 00:57:14,941
That's called prejudice.
1150
00:57:40,856 --> 00:57:43,257
Brindon, where are they?
1151
00:57:43,292 --> 00:57:44,292
They have gone.
1152
00:57:44,326 --> 00:57:45,860
We must tell torvald.
1153
00:57:45,894 --> 00:57:46,994
He was with them.
1154
00:57:47,029 --> 00:57:48,429
No.
1155
00:57:48,463 --> 00:57:50,364
Shall I alert princess isa?
1156
00:57:50,399 --> 00:57:53,234
No. Better to take
a dagger through the heart,
1157
00:57:53,268 --> 00:57:54,769
for the news would kill her.
1158
00:57:54,803 --> 00:57:58,973
Brindon... 95%. Unbelievable.
1159
00:58:01,710 --> 00:58:03,344
My boss came out
of the house and said,
1160
00:58:03,378 --> 00:58:05,146
"I think I just
killed somebody."
1161
00:58:05,180 --> 00:58:06,948
"I think I should call
somebody"?
1162
00:58:06,982 --> 00:58:08,916
You want to know the case?
1163
00:58:08,951 --> 00:58:12,019
Our guy used to be a big shot.
Now he's nobody.
1164
00:58:12,054 --> 00:58:13,087
The girl... she's living
the dream.
1165
00:58:13,121 --> 00:58:16,057
Should have died 10 years ago
when she could marry money.
1166
00:58:16,091 --> 00:58:18,759
Too late now... she's
every woman's nightmare.
1167
00:58:18,794 --> 00:58:21,028
She goes home with a fella.
She ends up dead.
1168
00:58:21,063 --> 00:58:22,430
Let your guy go? Why?
1169
00:58:22,464 --> 00:58:23,598
What was he doing
there with her?
1170
00:58:23,632 --> 00:58:25,566
That's not what he's
being tried for.
1171
00:58:25,601 --> 00:58:27,401
Really?
1172
00:58:35,010 --> 00:58:36,243
What time does bruce get in?
1173
00:58:36,278 --> 00:58:37,211
1:05.
1174
00:58:37,245 --> 00:58:40,247
What if it were an accident?
1175
00:58:43,919 --> 00:58:46,220
Ah.
1176
00:58:46,254 --> 00:58:47,254
Thank you for coming today.
1177
00:58:47,289 --> 00:58:48,289
Thank you.
1178
00:58:48,323 --> 00:58:49,724
How are you?
I'm well, thank you.
1179
00:58:49,758 --> 00:58:50,858
Good.
1180
00:58:50,892 --> 00:58:51,959
My name is michael brown.
1181
00:58:51,994 --> 00:58:54,128
Jenny o'brien.
1182
00:58:54,162 --> 00:58:55,963
I'm a retired federal officer.
1183
00:58:55,998 --> 00:58:58,299
I've spent most of my government
service occupied with
1184
00:58:58,333 --> 00:59:03,237
ballistics, which is the study
of projectiles and firearms.
1185
00:59:03,271 --> 00:59:09,176
This is a model
of a firearm, a revolver.
1186
00:59:09,211 --> 00:59:13,447
As you see, it cannot
fire anything.
1187
00:59:13,482 --> 00:59:15,983
There is nothing to fire.
1188
00:59:16,018 --> 00:59:19,053
It's solid plastic.
That's all it is.
1189
00:59:19,087 --> 00:59:23,057
This model... I won't call it a
toy, because it's not a toy...
1190
00:59:23,091 --> 00:59:24,992
Is designed for purposes
of demonstration.
1191
00:59:25,027 --> 00:59:26,494
Ok?
1192
00:59:26,528 --> 00:59:27,595
Mmm.
1193
00:59:27,629 --> 00:59:32,366
Basically... it's
a garage door opener.
1194
00:59:32,401 --> 00:59:35,401
Now, here is one thing
this model can do.
1195
00:59:35,404 --> 00:59:39,940
If the trigger is depressed,
it sends a signal...
1196
00:59:41,109 --> 00:59:43,644
The light and the alarm go off.
1197
00:59:46,214 --> 00:59:48,182
You all received your
checks for coming in today?
1198
00:59:48,216 --> 00:59:49,350
Yes.
1199
00:59:49,384 --> 00:59:50,918
Fine.
1200
00:59:50,952 --> 00:59:53,788
In addition to your honorarium,
in addition to that,
1201
00:59:53,822 --> 00:59:57,525
if you can insert the model in your
mouth without pulling the trigger,
1202
00:59:57,559 --> 00:59:59,860
you'll receive $300.
1203
00:59:59,895 --> 01:00:01,462
You understand?
1204
01:00:01,496 --> 01:00:04,699
Yeah.
1205
01:00:04,733 --> 01:00:06,167
Wrapped in plastic.
1206
01:00:06,201 --> 01:00:08,269
Completely sterile.
1207
01:00:08,303 --> 01:00:11,138
Please remove it
from the plastic.
1208
01:00:16,511 --> 01:00:20,114
Now without pulling
the trigger,
1209
01:00:20,148 --> 01:00:22,850
insert the model in your mouth.
1210
01:00:24,619 --> 01:00:25,986
Close it.
1211
01:00:26,021 --> 01:00:28,589
For god's sakes, what the
fuck are you doing?!
1212
01:00:28,623 --> 01:00:30,464
Take it out!
Take it out of your mouth!
1213
01:00:37,666 --> 01:00:41,368
That's our case.
1214
01:00:41,403 --> 01:00:42,837
And what does forensics say?
1215
01:00:42,871 --> 01:00:45,840
Forensics says the gun
was inside her mouth,
1216
01:00:45,874 --> 01:00:48,275
handle and trigger guard
down, which means that
1217
01:00:48,310 --> 01:00:49,610
the front sight was up.
1218
01:00:49,644 --> 01:00:53,247
Now, somebody yells, "take
that gun out of your mouth."
1219
01:00:53,281 --> 01:00:55,182
She pulls it out fast.
1220
01:00:55,217 --> 01:00:58,185
The front sight gets caught
on her upper teeth,
1221
01:00:58,220 --> 01:01:01,021
hand keeps pulling, depresses
the trigger, the gun goes off.
1222
01:01:01,056 --> 01:01:02,089
It's not in evidence.
1223
01:01:02,124 --> 01:01:03,257
I'll put it in the closing.
1224
01:01:03,291 --> 01:01:04,592
It's too late.
I'll tell you why.
1225
01:01:04,626 --> 01:01:06,546
Everybody at that point
assumes that he's guilty.
1226
01:01:06,561 --> 01:01:08,696
Linda, all of this,
the rubber gun?
1227
01:01:08,730 --> 01:01:10,664
I won't take the rubber
gun to court.
1228
01:01:10,699 --> 01:01:12,199
Linda...
1229
01:01:12,234 --> 01:01:14,068
It's so clear. The judge
didn't allow clarkson's diary.
1230
01:01:14,102 --> 01:01:17,271
He won't allow... Linda,
the point is, all right,
1231
01:01:17,305 --> 01:01:19,540
they think he's a monster.
1232
01:01:19,574 --> 01:01:20,974
You take the skull in,
they're sure.
1233
01:01:20,976 --> 01:01:22,843
Monster. Lives in a
cave. Look at the skull.
1234
01:01:22,878 --> 01:01:24,945
They turn away from your
client and his evidence.
1235
01:01:24,980 --> 01:01:26,147
I make them look at it.
1236
01:01:26,181 --> 01:01:27,681
You're thrashing, linda.
1237
01:01:27,716 --> 01:01:29,517
I'm telling you that if she put
the gun in her own mouth...
1238
01:01:29,551 --> 01:01:30,785
And she did...
1239
01:01:30,819 --> 01:01:32,987
And I am telling you, the
only way you can introduce
1240
01:01:33,021 --> 01:01:37,424
all this fucking ben-hur is in
support of direct testimony.
1241
01:01:37,459 --> 01:01:39,794
Remember procedure, which testimony
only comes and could come
1242
01:01:39,828 --> 01:01:43,497
on direct from mr. spector.
1243
01:01:43,532 --> 01:01:44,965
Are you gonna put him
on the stand,
1244
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,601
or should I just fucking
go jump under a train.
1245
01:01:47,636 --> 01:01:49,236
What?
1246
01:01:54,843 --> 01:01:56,477
Take care of yourself.
1247
01:02:01,283 --> 01:02:04,385
Thank you, ben.
1248
01:02:04,419 --> 01:02:06,854
People say diet is bullshit.
1249
01:02:06,888 --> 01:02:08,055
Diet is not bullshit.
1250
01:02:08,089 --> 01:02:10,324
I want to talk to you
about tomorrow.
1251
01:02:10,358 --> 01:02:11,425
What's this?
1252
01:02:11,459 --> 01:02:13,561
That's a note from bruce.
1253
01:02:13,595 --> 01:02:15,229
A note?
1254
01:02:19,901 --> 01:02:23,037
"My personal numbers"
in case of what?
1255
01:02:23,071 --> 01:02:26,307
In the case you need him.
1256
01:02:26,341 --> 01:02:27,641
These numbers are in new york.
1257
01:02:27,676 --> 01:02:28,797
Yeah. Well, bruce went back.
1258
01:02:28,810 --> 01:02:29,777
Look here.
1259
01:02:29,811 --> 01:02:32,813
This is the statement...
Bruce went back to new york?
1260
01:02:32,848 --> 01:02:34,548
Yeah, sure. You knew
he was going back.
1261
01:02:34,583 --> 01:02:35,850
To do his television show.
1262
01:02:35,884 --> 01:02:38,252
No. He didn't go back
to do his television show.
1263
01:02:38,286 --> 01:02:41,622
He left me to do... Philip.
1264
01:02:41,656 --> 01:02:43,858
Philip, you told him
you didn't wish him to...
1265
01:02:43,892 --> 01:02:45,492
Do you recall the closing?
1266
01:02:45,527 --> 01:02:48,229
You agreed, the judge agreed
that bruce could retire
1267
01:02:48,263 --> 01:02:49,263
before the closing.
1268
01:02:49,297 --> 01:02:50,764
Retire from the case?
1269
01:02:50,799 --> 01:02:52,032
Yes. Well, you agreed.
1270
01:02:52,067 --> 01:02:53,434
What, I agreed? What
do you mean, I agreed?
1271
01:02:53,468 --> 01:02:57,271
I agreed to what?
I agreed to what?
1272
01:02:57,305 --> 01:02:58,439
It's relevant to this?
1273
01:02:58,473 --> 01:03:00,207
No, no, no, no.
1274
01:03:00,242 --> 01:03:01,575
No. This is unethical.
1275
01:03:01,610 --> 01:03:04,111
He withdrew in open court, philip.
You were there.
1276
01:03:04,145 --> 01:03:05,813
I didn't understand.
1277
01:03:05,847 --> 01:03:06,847
Well, you discussed this.
1278
01:03:06,882 --> 01:03:11,418
When I paid him $1 million
to defend my life?
1279
01:03:11,453 --> 01:03:14,221
You and the judge
and bruce cutler, remember?
1280
01:03:14,256 --> 01:03:15,456
You all talked about this.
1281
01:03:15,490 --> 01:03:18,459
I thought he was going
on a trip. Come on!
1282
01:03:18,493 --> 01:03:20,694
"These are my
new york numbers"?
1283
01:03:20,729 --> 01:03:21,795
He has other clients.
1284
01:03:21,830 --> 01:03:22,997
He left me.
1285
01:03:23,031 --> 01:03:25,232
He left me to do
his television show.
1286
01:03:25,267 --> 01:03:26,500
Don't break my heart.
1287
01:03:26,534 --> 01:03:31,572
And I paid him $1 million,
and I foolishly expected
1288
01:03:31,606 --> 01:03:34,074
from him, loyalty.
1289
01:03:34,109 --> 01:03:35,576
For... for what?
1290
01:03:35,610 --> 01:03:36,577
For life?
1291
01:03:36,611 --> 01:03:37,878
No.
1292
01:03:37,913 --> 01:03:41,782
For the duration
of a trial, in which
1293
01:03:41,816 --> 01:03:44,785
he pleaded with me
to give him the job.
1294
01:03:44,819 --> 01:03:45,786
Why did he want the job?
1295
01:03:45,820 --> 01:03:46,921
Why?
1296
01:03:46,955 --> 01:03:48,255
Because he liked me?
1297
01:03:48,290 --> 01:03:49,924
He despised me.
1298
01:03:49,958 --> 01:03:55,462
He wanted the job because I
needed him, because I was weak.
1299
01:03:55,497 --> 01:03:57,164
He was strong.
1300
01:03:57,198 --> 01:04:00,000
He wanted my money.
1301
01:04:00,035 --> 01:04:01,201
I don't understand that?
1302
01:04:01,236 --> 01:04:04,238
Philip, you agreed
in front of a judge...
1303
01:04:04,272 --> 01:04:05,806
I thought he was
going shopping.
1304
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:06,774
Please.
1305
01:04:06,808 --> 01:04:08,208
Who was there to
tell me different?
1306
01:04:08,243 --> 01:04:10,344
Who? Who could have?
I'm ignorant.
1307
01:04:10,378 --> 01:04:11,845
What do I know
about these things?
1308
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:15,115
Who could have sat me down and
told me and explained it to me?
1309
01:04:15,150 --> 01:04:16,116
Who?
1310
01:04:16,151 --> 01:04:17,584
My lawyer.
1311
01:04:17,619 --> 01:04:18,619
That's who.
1312
01:04:18,653 --> 01:04:19,620
Who's gone.
1313
01:04:19,654 --> 01:04:21,689
You let him go.
1314
01:04:30,298 --> 01:04:32,299
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry you're upset.
1315
01:04:32,334 --> 01:04:35,636
I know you are.
1316
01:04:35,670 --> 01:04:36,770
So.
1317
01:04:36,805 --> 01:04:40,374
What do we do now?
1318
01:04:40,408 --> 01:04:45,212
If you testify, we get to
do the demonstrations.
1319
01:04:45,246 --> 01:04:46,406
I don't get that.
1320
01:04:46,414 --> 01:04:49,583
That means I've got
to put you on the stand.
1321
01:04:49,617 --> 01:04:50,651
All right.
1322
01:04:50,685 --> 01:04:52,753
You do understand
what that means?
1323
01:04:52,787 --> 01:04:55,222
I get to tell my story.
1324
01:04:55,256 --> 01:04:58,258
It means they get to
tear you apart.
1325
01:04:58,293 --> 01:05:02,863
Well, you defend me.
1326
01:05:06,301 --> 01:05:09,837
You ever know anyone
who was disfigured?
1327
01:05:09,871 --> 01:05:14,375
I mean, you know, some
serious hard to look at?
1328
01:05:14,409 --> 01:05:17,344
After a time... after a time,
you come not to notice.
1329
01:05:29,324 --> 01:05:31,358
Can you turn on the lights?
1330
01:05:36,631 --> 01:05:37,598
All right.
1331
01:05:37,632 --> 01:05:39,299
It's impressive.
1332
01:05:39,334 --> 01:05:41,301
All right. All right.
1333
01:05:41,336 --> 01:05:44,004
Ok.
1334
01:05:44,039 --> 01:05:47,241
The defense calls
philip spector.
1335
01:05:52,647 --> 01:05:54,681
Place your left
hand on the bible.
1336
01:05:54,716 --> 01:05:56,450
Raise your right hand.
1337
01:05:56,484 --> 01:05:58,919
Do you solemnly swear that the
testimony you're about to give
1338
01:05:58,953 --> 01:06:01,722
in the matter now
before this court is
1339
01:06:01,756 --> 01:06:03,490
the truth, the whole truth,
and nothing but the truth?
1340
01:06:03,525 --> 01:06:05,025
I do.
1341
01:06:05,060 --> 01:06:06,160
State your name.
1342
01:06:06,194 --> 01:06:08,529
Philip spector.
1343
01:06:08,563 --> 01:06:10,464
Please be seated.
1344
01:06:12,167 --> 01:06:14,802
Now, mr. spector, I would
like you to describe,
1345
01:06:14,836 --> 01:06:17,337
in as much detail as
you can recall,
1346
01:06:17,372 --> 01:06:20,407
the events of the night
of february 2, 2003.
1347
01:06:20,442 --> 01:06:26,046
Uh, I had a date with a girl.
1348
01:06:26,081 --> 01:06:27,381
Objection!
1349
01:06:27,415 --> 01:06:28,816
Could the witness
be more specific?
1350
01:06:28,850 --> 01:06:30,484
Could he state the name
of the girl, please?
1351
01:06:30,518 --> 01:06:32,820
Yes. State the name
of the girl, please.
1352
01:06:32,854 --> 01:06:36,156
Her name was lana clarkson.
1353
01:06:36,191 --> 01:06:38,092
Would you speak up, please?
1354
01:06:42,697 --> 01:06:46,300
Lana clarkson.
1355
01:06:46,334 --> 01:06:50,838
I had a date with a girl
named lana clarkson.
1356
01:06:50,872 --> 01:06:52,206
Now.
1357
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,876
mr. spector, did you kill
lana clarkson?
1358
01:06:55,910 --> 01:06:57,845
No.
1359
01:06:57,879 --> 01:07:00,180
Did you put
a revolver in her mouth?
1360
01:07:00,215 --> 01:07:01,148
No.
1361
01:07:01,182 --> 01:07:03,083
Did you suggest that she do so?
1362
01:07:03,118 --> 01:07:04,118
No.
1363
01:07:04,152 --> 01:07:05,886
Did you threaten her? No.
1364
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:07,721
Did you keep her
in your house by force?
1365
01:07:07,755 --> 01:07:10,791
No. She wanted to stay...
Objection.
1366
01:07:10,825 --> 01:07:14,628
Sustained.
1367
01:07:14,662 --> 01:07:17,030
Did you keep her in your house by force?
Yes or no.
1368
01:07:17,065 --> 01:07:18,732
No.
1369
01:07:18,766 --> 01:07:22,569
All right.
1370
01:07:26,875 --> 01:07:28,242
All right. Good.
1371
01:07:28,276 --> 01:07:31,411
mr. spector, your attitude is...
Objection, your honor.
1372
01:07:31,446 --> 01:07:32,613
Is this the prosecution's
closing?
1373
01:07:32,647 --> 01:07:35,015
As if not... Sustained.
1374
01:07:35,049 --> 01:07:36,650
All right. As we continue,
and I thank the court
1375
01:07:36,684 --> 01:07:38,752
for its patience, and I would ask
mr. spector if he would be good enough
1376
01:07:38,786 --> 01:07:40,521
to discard the tactic
of "I don't remember,"
1377
01:07:40,555 --> 01:07:42,689
as the jury, I again assure you...
Objection, your honor.
1378
01:07:42,724 --> 01:07:44,258
Objection sustained.
1379
01:07:44,292 --> 01:07:46,894
mr. spector, would you
please keep your voice up?
1380
01:07:46,928 --> 01:07:48,729
It's been a long
day, your honor.
1381
01:07:48,763 --> 01:07:51,131
I suggest we
reconvene tomorrow.
1382
01:07:51,166 --> 01:07:53,333
Your honor, I object to the
defense's tactic of interruption,
1383
01:07:53,368 --> 01:07:55,302
and I ask the court's
indulgence that I may
1384
01:07:55,336 --> 01:07:56,837
close out this line
of questioning.
1385
01:07:56,871 --> 01:07:58,138
Yes. Your request is granted.
You may continue.
1386
01:07:58,173 --> 01:07:59,273
Thank you, your honor.
1387
01:07:59,307 --> 01:08:00,474
Ok.
1388
01:08:00,508 --> 01:08:02,609
mr. spector,
you have testified that.
1389
01:08:02,644 --> 01:08:05,179
"I came back into the room."
1390
01:08:05,213 --> 01:08:07,047
"She had the gun in her mouth."
1391
01:08:07,081 --> 01:08:09,516
I screamed no!
1392
01:08:12,220 --> 01:08:13,220
Have you asked me a question?
1393
01:08:13,254 --> 01:08:14,188
I'm about to.
1394
01:08:14,222 --> 01:08:15,189
Ok.
1395
01:08:15,223 --> 01:08:16,223
Where did the gun come from?
1396
01:08:16,257 --> 01:08:17,191
Objection. We've testified.
1397
01:08:17,225 --> 01:08:18,559
Where did the gun come
from, mr. spector?
1398
01:08:18,593 --> 01:08:20,527
You've testified
that you had 9...
1399
01:08:20,562 --> 01:08:22,996
9 firearms on your property
to which you have admitted.
1400
01:08:23,031 --> 01:08:24,431
Objection.
1401
01:08:24,465 --> 01:08:25,399
Was it one of these?
1402
01:08:25,433 --> 01:08:26,867
Objection. Overruled.
1403
01:08:26,901 --> 01:08:29,303
Or is this, say, an outlier
which you have forgot?
1404
01:08:29,337 --> 01:08:32,039
As you forgot the incident
with debra robertie
1405
01:08:32,073 --> 01:08:33,740
in which you, in joking,
pulled a gun on her?
1406
01:08:33,775 --> 01:08:34,815
All right, no.
1407
01:08:34,842 --> 01:08:36,843
Wait, wait, wait.
1408
01:08:36,878 --> 01:08:38,679
I have a sheaf of affidavits.
1409
01:08:38,713 --> 01:08:40,113
One moment, please.
1410
01:08:40,148 --> 01:08:42,349
Of your behavior
around women, with guns.
1411
01:08:42,383 --> 01:08:44,685
Of coercion, assault...
Objection.
1412
01:08:44,719 --> 01:08:46,653
Of coercion and battery,
unlawful imprisonment.
1413
01:08:46,688 --> 01:08:50,257
Your honor, the evidence in this court...
Incarcerated?
1414
01:08:50,291 --> 01:08:51,258
Your honor, mr. spector
has never been accused...
1415
01:08:51,292 --> 01:08:52,626
Convicted.
1416
01:08:52,660 --> 01:08:54,061
And this is
the essence of this case.
1417
01:08:54,095 --> 01:08:56,697
There is no legally admissible
evidence, which is to say
1418
01:08:56,731 --> 01:08:58,932
there is no evidence... All
right, all right, all right.
1419
01:08:58,967 --> 01:09:01,702
And I would move for a direct...
1420
01:09:01,736 --> 01:09:05,138
I have a tape... I have a tape
of your wife ronnie spector,
1421
01:09:05,173 --> 01:09:07,908
in which she testifies
to your repeated cruelties
1422
01:09:07,942 --> 01:09:10,510
and assaults.
1423
01:09:10,545 --> 01:09:12,946
Physical, verbal, and sexual.
1424
01:09:12,981 --> 01:09:14,414
No, no, no, no. Your
honor, mr. spector...
1425
01:09:14,449 --> 01:09:15,816
Shut that fucking thing off.
1426
01:09:15,850 --> 01:09:18,352
Ok, let her come
into the court.
1427
01:09:18,386 --> 01:09:21,021
Where did she say this
in a court of law?
1428
01:09:21,055 --> 01:09:24,024
Have her come in here,
let her... let her
1429
01:09:24,058 --> 01:09:26,159
come here and beat me.
1430
01:09:26,194 --> 01:09:29,296
Let that psychotic bitch
come forward in court
1431
01:09:29,330 --> 01:09:32,065
and swear where she can
be cross-examined...
1432
01:09:32,100 --> 01:09:33,367
"He threatened me."
1433
01:09:33,401 --> 01:09:34,735
Turn that fucking thing off.
1434
01:09:34,769 --> 01:09:36,069
"He beat me such that I..."
1435
01:09:36,104 --> 01:09:40,140
That sick, no-talent... "He
kept me from my children."
1436
01:09:40,174 --> 01:09:41,608
Turn that fucking thing off!
1437
01:09:41,643 --> 01:09:44,111
If I hadn't found her...
"He locked me in my room."
1438
01:09:44,145 --> 01:09:49,449
If I hadn't found her in the
gutter, what do you think?
1439
01:09:49,484 --> 01:09:52,386
Do you think these singers
made those songs?
1440
01:09:52,420 --> 01:09:53,387
I made those songs.
1441
01:09:53,421 --> 01:09:54,388
Your honor.
1442
01:09:54,422 --> 01:09:55,956
Ah, fuck this.
1443
01:09:55,990 --> 01:09:58,425
Fuck this whole thing,
this fucking charade.
1444
01:09:58,459 --> 01:09:59,793
And what do you do?
1445
01:09:59,827 --> 01:10:01,261
Who are you?
1446
01:10:01,296 --> 01:10:03,096
How dare you?
1447
01:10:03,131 --> 01:10:05,098
Who... who do you think you are,
1448
01:10:05,133 --> 01:10:07,334
to come in here and accuse me?
1449
01:10:07,368 --> 01:10:08,869
Philip.
1450
01:10:08,903 --> 01:10:10,137
I understand. I know
what's going on.
1451
01:10:10,171 --> 01:10:12,606
Philip... Shut up!
1452
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:15,008
Because I'm paying the lot
of you for this whole thing.
1453
01:10:15,043 --> 01:10:17,577
I understand
1454
01:10:17,612 --> 01:10:24,451
that this semi-talented
nowhere, this backup singer,
1455
01:10:24,485 --> 01:10:27,254
to whom I gave
everything I own...
1456
01:10:27,288 --> 01:10:31,692
My life, her life, my children.
1457
01:10:31,726 --> 01:10:36,697
And to have you come in here
quoting her libelous, non-sworn,
1458
01:10:36,731 --> 01:10:40,233
cowardly bullshit!
1459
01:10:40,268 --> 01:10:43,770
What does it cost her
to lash out at me?
1460
01:10:43,805 --> 01:10:44,905
Or you, for that matter?
1461
01:10:44,939 --> 01:10:46,473
Philip, this is a rehearsal.
1462
01:10:46,507 --> 01:10:47,874
I know it's a rehearsal!
1463
01:10:47,909 --> 01:10:50,210
Damn it! What do you
think I am?
1464
01:10:50,244 --> 01:10:51,678
An idiot?
1465
01:10:51,713 --> 01:10:53,146
Do you think I'm a fool?
1466
01:10:53,181 --> 01:10:55,048
Do you think I don't
know what this is about?
1467
01:10:55,083 --> 01:10:57,951
I've played this game a
million times before.
1468
01:10:57,985 --> 01:11:00,287
I know how the game is played!
1469
01:11:00,321 --> 01:11:03,601
I've done this my whole life.
What do you think?
1470
01:11:05,526 --> 01:11:09,363
They kill men for
telling the truth.
1471
01:11:09,397 --> 01:11:10,597
This is the truth!
1472
01:11:10,631 --> 01:11:12,733
All right. All right. All out.
1473
01:11:12,767 --> 01:11:13,888
- Everybody out.
- Uh, but...
1474
01:11:15,069 --> 01:11:17,571
Ok.
1475
01:11:25,780 --> 01:11:27,547
I worked my whole life.
1476
01:11:29,884 --> 01:11:33,620
I worked my whole life.
1477
01:11:33,654 --> 01:11:35,422
All right?
1478
01:11:35,456 --> 01:11:36,723
It's not all right.
1479
01:11:36,758 --> 01:11:38,759
It's not all right.
It's not all right.
1480
01:11:38,793 --> 01:11:40,660
It's certainly not
all right, philip.
1481
01:11:40,695 --> 01:11:43,296
If you go off like that
in the courtroom...
1482
01:11:43,331 --> 01:11:46,633
And I know you put the woman
up there to see if I'd go off.
1483
01:11:46,667 --> 01:11:47,968
This is not going off.
1484
01:11:48,002 --> 01:11:50,837
Not re-fucking-motely.
1485
01:11:50,872 --> 01:11:53,192
Would you like to
trust me, philip?
1486
01:11:53,207 --> 01:11:55,542
You might want to trust me,
because I'm the last person
1487
01:11:55,576 --> 01:11:58,145
who both, "a," believes in
you and "b" has the power
1488
01:11:58,179 --> 01:11:59,312
to help your case.
1489
01:11:59,347 --> 01:12:00,514
Oh, is that why
you brought back...
1490
01:12:00,548 --> 01:12:01,782
Shut up, philip. Now listen.
1491
01:12:01,816 --> 01:12:05,705
You know the difference between
your different behaviors.
1492
01:12:06,687 --> 01:12:08,422
I act the same with everyone.
1493
01:12:08,456 --> 01:12:10,090
No, nobody does.
1494
01:12:10,124 --> 01:12:11,458
You didn't act the same
around your bands.
1495
01:12:11,492 --> 01:12:13,360
You didn't act the same
around the beatles
1496
01:12:13,394 --> 01:12:15,228
like you did with
an autograph-seeker.
1497
01:12:15,263 --> 01:12:17,264
You can control your behavior.
1498
01:12:17,298 --> 01:12:18,899
Why is this important?
1499
01:12:18,933 --> 01:12:20,100
Because if you don't,
1500
01:12:20,134 --> 01:12:23,537
you're going to jail for
the rest of your life.
1501
01:12:23,571 --> 01:12:24,971
The prosecution is
gonna do everything
1502
01:12:25,006 --> 01:12:30,377
in its power to enrage you
because that's all they have.
1503
01:12:30,411 --> 01:12:32,345
That is what we are
doing here today.
1504
01:12:32,380 --> 01:12:36,183
They have no facts.
They have to break you.
1505
01:12:36,217 --> 01:12:38,218
You see, if you go off,
the jury will say,
1506
01:12:38,252 --> 01:12:40,821
"he did it now. I'm
sure he did it then,"
1507
01:12:40,855 --> 01:12:42,155
and they'll put you away.
1508
01:12:42,190 --> 01:12:43,857
I had no trouble
with the beatles.
1509
01:12:43,891 --> 01:12:46,226
And you will have no
trouble with the d.A.
1510
01:12:46,260 --> 01:12:48,795
If you recall that you
want something from him
1511
01:12:48,830 --> 01:12:52,365
and you will go free.
1512
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,469
Now, I want something from you.
1513
01:12:55,503 --> 01:12:58,071
I want you to give up the
pills, give up the wine
1514
01:12:58,105 --> 01:13:00,073
for the 2 or 3 days
you'll be on the stand
1515
01:13:00,107 --> 01:13:01,608
and keep your composure,
1516
01:13:01,642 --> 01:13:02,776
just like you did
around the beatles.
1517
01:13:02,810 --> 01:13:06,513
I mean, if paul disagreed with
you, did you scream at him?
1518
01:13:06,547 --> 01:13:08,215
On "let it be"?
1519
01:13:08,249 --> 01:13:11,117
I was proved right.
1520
01:13:11,152 --> 01:13:13,987
And you will be
proved right here
1521
01:13:14,021 --> 01:13:16,022
if you keep your composure.
1522
01:13:16,057 --> 01:13:18,291
But if you don't, you won't.
1523
01:13:18,326 --> 01:13:23,029
I promise you that I will
be prepared mentally,
1524
01:13:23,064 --> 01:13:26,333
spiritually, and that I
will make a good impression
1525
01:13:26,367 --> 01:13:31,304
and... keep their respect.
1526
01:13:31,339 --> 01:13:33,273
I understand.
1527
01:13:33,307 --> 01:13:36,443
Thank you.
1528
01:13:36,477 --> 01:13:37,444
You know why?
1529
01:13:37,478 --> 01:13:38,945
Why?
1530
01:13:38,980 --> 01:13:44,451
Not for what they think of me,
but what you think of me.
1531
01:13:44,485 --> 01:13:48,207
Thank you. I take that
as a great compliment.
1532
01:13:51,726 --> 01:13:56,129
Vicky, where's the car?
1533
01:13:56,163 --> 01:13:57,130
So.
1534
01:13:57,164 --> 01:13:58,198
All right?
1535
01:13:58,232 --> 01:13:59,866
Yeah. I'm just
saving it... you know,
1536
01:13:59,901 --> 01:14:04,871
saving my best work
for when we're rolling.
1537
01:14:04,906 --> 01:14:06,673
I'm a little tired, too,
I think.
1538
01:14:06,707 --> 01:14:09,743
Best I go home
and rest for tomorrow.
1539
01:14:09,777 --> 01:14:11,511
No, I get it.
1540
01:14:11,546 --> 01:14:15,248
It... it don't start getting
better till it's gotten bad.
1541
01:14:15,283 --> 01:14:16,683
I'm equal to it.
1542
01:14:16,717 --> 01:14:20,754
Hey, guys, you want to see
if the car's ready, please?
1543
01:14:20,788 --> 01:14:21,755
I got it.
1544
01:14:21,789 --> 01:14:22,756
Anyway, thank you.
1545
01:14:22,790 --> 01:14:24,391
No.
1546
01:14:24,425 --> 01:14:26,259
This was a good idea.
1547
01:14:26,294 --> 01:14:27,594
You rest up.
We'll see you tomorrow.
1548
01:14:27,628 --> 01:14:29,863
Ok.
1549
01:14:29,897 --> 01:14:31,765
So thank you all.
1550
01:14:31,799 --> 01:14:38,271
Let me just say I know you
were paid to get me prepared.
1551
01:14:38,306 --> 01:14:40,073
You did an excellent job.
1552
01:14:40,107 --> 01:14:47,447
You were paid to perform, and
your performance was perfect.
1553
01:14:47,481 --> 01:14:50,984
So can I do as well as you?
1554
01:14:51,018 --> 01:14:54,020
Tomorrow, we'll see.
1555
01:14:54,055 --> 01:14:57,791
If I do, it's because
of you, right?
1556
01:14:57,825 --> 01:15:00,026
Thank you.
1557
01:15:00,061 --> 01:15:01,094
Linda, you want to go
to the car?
1558
01:15:01,128 --> 01:15:02,529
Yeah.
1559
01:15:05,232 --> 01:15:09,669
What you're doing,
linda, is good.
1560
01:15:09,704 --> 01:15:13,907
It's what I always tried to do,
so I know what you're doing.
1561
01:15:13,941 --> 01:15:17,510
What am I doing, philip?
1562
01:15:17,545 --> 01:15:20,647
You're defending the artist.
1563
01:15:20,681 --> 01:15:23,316
I know you're not well.
1564
01:15:23,351 --> 01:15:26,686
I know what this
is costing you.
1565
01:15:26,721 --> 01:15:29,222
That's what I go by.
1566
01:15:29,256 --> 01:15:33,526
I've met a lot of crazy
people in my life.
1567
01:15:33,561 --> 01:15:39,966
I've met very few sane
ones that I could talk to.
1568
01:15:45,039 --> 01:15:47,340
All right.
1569
01:15:47,375 --> 01:15:48,615
Here we go.
1570
01:15:54,782 --> 01:15:56,516
He don't look good.
1571
01:15:56,550 --> 01:15:58,885
He's tired.
1572
01:15:58,919 --> 01:16:02,522
Are you going to keep him up
on the stand all day tomorrow?
1573
01:16:02,556 --> 01:16:05,525
I'm gonna keep him up there
till they all get used to him,
1574
01:16:05,559 --> 01:16:07,861
after which he will no
longer be an oddity
1575
01:16:07,895 --> 01:16:10,997
but a beloved eccentric,
1576
01:16:11,032 --> 01:16:12,565
and they'll be telling
their grandchildren
1577
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,935
how they helped to set
an innocent man free.
1578
01:16:26,013 --> 01:16:27,781
Linda, hi.
1579
01:16:27,815 --> 01:16:29,249
You know my wife kelly.
1580
01:16:29,283 --> 01:16:30,316
Linda kenney baden.
1581
01:16:30,351 --> 01:16:31,484
No. Hi.
1582
01:16:31,519 --> 01:16:32,852
How do you do?
1583
01:16:32,887 --> 01:16:34,287
Honey, the tickets.
1584
01:16:34,321 --> 01:16:35,889
The tickets... I'm sorry.
1585
01:16:35,923 --> 01:16:38,091
I'll be right back.
1586
01:16:40,194 --> 01:16:42,595
So how long have
you two been married?
1587
01:16:42,630 --> 01:16:44,798
I've been following your trial.
1588
01:16:44,832 --> 01:16:48,468
How could you defend that man?
1589
01:16:48,502 --> 01:16:50,637
What does your pin mean?
1590
01:16:50,671 --> 01:16:51,805
Medical aid for africa.
1591
01:16:51,839 --> 01:16:52,772
And are you active in that?
1592
01:16:52,807 --> 01:16:53,907
Yes, I am.
1593
01:16:53,941 --> 01:16:55,275
So you're compassionate.
1594
01:16:55,309 --> 01:16:56,276
All right.
1595
01:16:56,310 --> 01:16:57,644
So would you hire
an ex-convict?
1596
01:16:57,678 --> 01:16:58,978
I might.
1597
01:16:59,013 --> 01:17:01,781
So suppose she was
convicted of, say, theft
1598
01:17:01,816 --> 01:17:04,484
and she comes to you, she tells you
her story, and you judge she deserves
1599
01:17:04,518 --> 01:17:08,354
a break, so you give her a job,
and then after a year or so,
1600
01:17:08,389 --> 01:17:09,489
the household money
goes missing.
1601
01:17:09,523 --> 01:17:11,057
Do you suspect her first?
1602
01:17:11,092 --> 01:17:14,027
I would of course check...
Of course you do.
1603
01:17:14,061 --> 01:17:16,896
No matter how much you're
committed to "presumed innocent,"
1604
01:17:16,931 --> 01:17:18,832
you will suspect her first.
1605
01:17:18,866 --> 01:17:22,035
I work in the music business.
1606
01:17:22,069 --> 01:17:24,137
I know something
about your client.
1607
01:17:24,171 --> 01:17:25,538
He's a terrible man.
1608
01:17:25,573 --> 01:17:27,006
He's not being tried for that.
1609
01:17:27,041 --> 01:17:28,374
Do you think he shot her?
1610
01:17:28,409 --> 01:17:30,143
I don't see how he could have.
1611
01:17:30,177 --> 01:17:32,178
Can you prove that
he didn't shoot her?
1612
01:17:32,213 --> 01:17:34,214
Well, that's not my job.
1613
01:17:34,248 --> 01:17:36,816
By the way... I got them.
1614
01:17:36,851 --> 01:17:39,119
Did you know that your
husband is cheating on you?
1615
01:17:39,153 --> 01:17:40,520
That's ridiculous.
1616
01:17:40,554 --> 01:17:42,856
And that's called "giving him
the benefit of the doubt."
1617
01:17:42,890 --> 01:17:43,823
It's good to see you, linda.
1618
01:17:43,858 --> 01:17:44,858
You, too.
1619
01:17:44,892 --> 01:17:45,859
Good night.
1620
01:17:45,893 --> 01:17:47,627
Good night.
1621
01:17:47,661 --> 01:17:49,229
Do you think
you'll get him off?
1622
01:17:49,263 --> 01:17:50,497
Yes, I do.
1623
01:17:50,531 --> 01:17:52,632
If you get him off,
what will you do
1624
01:17:52,666 --> 01:17:54,934
when he kills the next girl?
1625
01:19:00,634 --> 01:19:03,336
[Alarm ringing]
1626
01:19:24,491 --> 01:19:28,094
As we near the end of a
long... a very long trial,
1627
01:19:28,128 --> 01:19:31,097
phil spector, once the darling
of the music industry,
1628
01:19:31,131 --> 01:19:35,869
having sold millions of
records, now facing a jury,
1629
01:19:35,903 --> 01:19:39,572
charged with the shooting death
of actress lana clarkson.
1630
01:19:39,607 --> 01:19:41,107
What are we seeing down
there, patty?
1631
01:19:41,141 --> 01:19:42,442
That's right, bill.
1632
01:19:42,476 --> 01:19:44,944
His name is in the record books,
and we all know his music,
1633
01:19:44,979 --> 01:19:49,082
but the trial, the charge, have
nothing to do with his profession
1634
01:19:49,116 --> 01:19:50,583
but of course with
his personal life.
1635
01:19:50,618 --> 01:19:53,086
I know this is the day that
you've all been waiting for.
1636
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:55,722
You've been waiting
on his arrival,
1637
01:19:55,756 --> 01:19:59,259
and here, yes, here is
phil spector.
1638
01:19:59,293 --> 01:20:00,426
Ready.
1639
01:20:00,461 --> 01:20:01,694
dr. spitz, you
understand we won't be
1640
01:20:01,729 --> 01:20:03,963
getting to you for several
days because... Yes.
1641
01:20:03,998 --> 01:20:06,666
We will be examining mr. spector...
I understand.
1642
01:20:06,700 --> 01:20:07,767
But I thought it was important
for you to hear the testimony
1643
01:20:07,801 --> 01:20:08,801
on direct.
1644
01:20:08,836 --> 01:20:09,769
Are you gonna
keep him up there all day?
1645
01:20:09,803 --> 01:20:10,803
Linda.
1646
01:20:10,838 --> 01:20:11,905
When are you doing
the demonstrations?
1647
01:20:11,939 --> 01:20:13,773
I've got to introduce
it on redirect.
1648
01:20:13,807 --> 01:20:14,774
Uh, excuse me.
1649
01:20:14,808 --> 01:20:16,809
Not 95%. I understand.
1650
01:20:16,844 --> 01:20:17,777
That is self-inflicted.
1651
01:20:17,811 --> 01:20:19,812
Yes. Sorry. Excuse me.
1652
01:20:19,847 --> 01:20:22,515
Yes. No, no, no.
Not yet. Not yet.
1653
01:20:22,549 --> 01:20:25,485
Um, hello? Listen.
Hello? Listen.
1654
01:20:25,519 --> 01:20:30,123
I want to inspect the ballistic
test materials tonight, ok?
1655
01:20:35,863 --> 01:20:37,163
James?
1656
01:20:37,197 --> 01:20:38,431
Ok.
1657
01:20:38,465 --> 01:20:41,935
When we've got him...
No, no, no, no.
1658
01:20:41,969 --> 01:20:42,902
Either way. Either way.
1659
01:20:42,937 --> 01:20:46,639
When he's on the stand, I...
If you see me do this...
1660
01:20:46,674 --> 01:20:48,574
Ok? This. Uh-huh.
1661
01:20:48,609 --> 01:20:51,110
You come from the back of the
court and you pass me a note,
1662
01:20:51,145 --> 01:20:53,179
only make sure it's not
blank, because fiedler
1663
01:20:53,213 --> 01:20:56,049
might ask to see it,
so it should say.
1664
01:20:56,083 --> 01:20:58,084
"Communication from
bruce cutler.
1665
01:20:58,118 --> 01:20:59,218
New york. Urgent."
1666
01:20:59,253 --> 01:21:01,421
Can he keep it
together on the stand?
1667
01:21:01,455 --> 01:21:03,423
He's got to, all right?
1668
01:21:03,457 --> 01:21:06,125
We're here outside
the state courthouse, where
1669
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:10,596
phil spector has just made
a rather spectacular entrance.
1670
01:21:10,631 --> 01:21:12,832
Stay with him... stay with him as
long as you can stay with him,
1671
01:21:12,866 --> 01:21:15,101
and then get the
reactions of the crowd.
1672
01:21:15,135 --> 01:21:17,270
Is he out of his mind?
1673
01:21:17,304 --> 01:21:19,005
Follow him. Follow him through.
1674
01:21:19,039 --> 01:21:20,940
Follow on phil.
1675
01:21:20,975 --> 01:21:22,608
Oh, my god.
1676
01:21:24,511 --> 01:21:26,913
Phil spector has just
entered the courthouse.
1677
01:21:26,981 --> 01:21:29,449
As you know, reporters are not
allowed into the courthouse,
1678
01:21:29,483 --> 01:21:32,285
but if you stay with us,
we will be out here
1679
01:21:32,319 --> 01:21:33,853
waiting for his return.
1680
01:21:33,887 --> 01:21:37,123
We will be back with you.
We'll have the news of the day.
1681
01:21:37,157 --> 01:21:39,092
Stay with us.
1682
01:21:39,126 --> 01:21:41,327
We will be waiting...
1683
01:21:44,665 --> 01:21:46,833
Folks, clear the way.
1684
01:21:46,867 --> 01:21:47,800
Excuse me. Excuse me.
1685
01:21:47,835 --> 01:21:49,369
Let me through.
1686
01:21:53,974 --> 01:21:56,809
You on that side,
you on that side.
1687
01:21:58,345 --> 01:21:59,312
Coming out.
1688
01:21:59,346 --> 01:22:00,279
I need you at the perimeter.
1689
01:22:00,314 --> 01:22:02,548
No one without
the yellow pass passes.
1690
01:22:02,583 --> 01:22:04,484
Get back.
1691
01:22:04,518 --> 01:22:05,551
Give them room
on the elevators.
1692
01:22:05,586 --> 01:22:06,519
Outside...
1693
01:22:42,222 --> 01:22:44,724
What is it?
1694
01:22:44,758 --> 01:22:49,962
Well, it's pneumonia, philip.
1695
01:22:52,099 --> 01:22:55,201
Oh, pneumonia?
1696
01:22:55,235 --> 01:22:57,603
Oh, man.
1697
01:22:57,638 --> 01:23:00,606
You got to take
care of yourself.
1698
01:23:00,641 --> 01:23:03,943
Look in the mirror.
1699
01:23:03,977 --> 01:23:06,746
You're concerned
about my appearance.
1700
01:23:06,780 --> 01:23:07,814
Look in the mirror, philip.
1701
01:23:07,848 --> 01:23:13,953
I know. I wanted, linda,
to look my best today.
1702
01:23:13,987 --> 01:23:16,656
I know you're concerned
about my hair.
1703
01:23:16,690 --> 01:23:22,261
My hair... listen to me.
My hair is an homage.
1704
01:23:22,296 --> 01:23:26,766
Philip... To jimi hendrix. Yes?
Who suffered... Look...
1705
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:30,103
Who suffered, who was
persecuted philip...
1706
01:23:30,137 --> 01:23:31,838
Please, just don't make a
big thing out of this.
1707
01:23:31,872 --> 01:23:33,272
This is not as
outrageous as it looks.
1708
01:23:33,307 --> 01:23:35,241
Philip... Linda, what is it?
1709
01:23:35,275 --> 01:23:36,309
It's not a big thing.
1710
01:23:36,343 --> 01:23:37,276
Here, let me just tell you.
1711
01:23:37,311 --> 01:23:40,446
I spent quite a bit
of time on this.
1712
01:23:40,481 --> 01:23:43,683
I've been up since 4:00
in the morning, right?
1713
01:23:43,717 --> 01:23:49,088
And the truth... the truth
is that backlit, this...
1714
01:23:49,123 --> 01:23:54,026
Listen... Listen to me. I
know about these things.
1715
01:23:54,061 --> 01:23:55,862
I know these things. I'm
an expert at these things.
1716
01:23:55,896 --> 01:23:58,164
What things?
1717
01:23:58,198 --> 01:23:59,899
Show business, linda.
1718
01:23:59,933 --> 01:24:02,068
Putting on a show.
1719
01:24:02,102 --> 01:24:03,469
Will you grant me that?
1720
01:24:03,504 --> 01:24:06,439
Sure. All right.
1721
01:24:06,473 --> 01:24:08,975
The amount of time I spent
with the ronettes,
1722
01:24:09,009 --> 01:24:13,613
the crystals, with darlene, with
the bobby socks, with tina,
1723
01:24:13,647 --> 01:24:16,382
on their clothes,
on their dresses.
1724
01:24:16,416 --> 01:24:19,285
One might have even whispered
at the time, many things...
1725
01:24:19,319 --> 01:24:20,620
Philip...
1726
01:24:20,654 --> 01:24:22,321
One might have even... listen to me.
Listen to me, linda.
1727
01:24:22,389 --> 01:24:27,627
One might have even whispered,
"this man is queer."
1728
01:24:27,661 --> 01:24:30,163
Further, had I been queer,
1729
01:24:30,197 --> 01:24:33,299
it wouldn't have mattered
because I never cared
1730
01:24:33,333 --> 01:24:35,301
who put what into whom.
1731
01:24:35,335 --> 01:24:38,104
What business was that of mine?
1732
01:24:38,138 --> 01:24:39,138
I'm quoted on that.
1733
01:24:40,974 --> 01:24:43,042
Yes, we're coming.
1734
01:24:43,076 --> 01:24:44,877
I presume they want us
back in court.
1735
01:24:44,912 --> 01:24:46,012
Yes, that's it.
1736
01:24:46,046 --> 01:24:47,647
So...
1737
01:24:49,316 --> 01:24:55,454
I want you to put
your mind at rest.
1738
01:24:55,489 --> 01:24:59,592
When I'm up there, should they
mention my hair, and they may,
1739
01:24:59,626 --> 01:25:02,461
I'll be proud to tell them
just what I told you.
1740
01:25:04,932 --> 01:25:07,433
All right?
1741
01:25:07,467 --> 01:25:11,470
I'm ready.
1742
01:25:11,505 --> 01:25:13,306
All right.
1743
01:25:13,340 --> 01:25:16,509
I'm ready.
1744
01:25:16,543 --> 01:25:19,078
All rise.
1745
01:25:19,112 --> 01:25:21,547
The superior court for the county
of los angeles, hear ye, hear ye,
1746
01:25:21,582 --> 01:25:24,116
"people vs. Philip spector."
1747
01:25:24,151 --> 01:25:26,652
The honorable judge larry
paul fidler presiding.
1748
01:25:26,687 --> 01:25:28,254
All having business before
this court come forward
1749
01:25:28,288 --> 01:25:29,388
and you will be heard.
1750
01:25:29,423 --> 01:25:30,389
Be seated.
1751
01:25:35,996 --> 01:25:37,830
ms. baden,
I believe you wanted to call
1752
01:25:37,864 --> 01:25:40,344
one more witness
for the defense.
1753
01:25:44,471 --> 01:25:47,273
Counselor?
1754
01:25:50,777 --> 01:25:54,614
ms. baden, I'm waiting.
1755
01:25:54,648 --> 01:25:55,581
[Clears throat.
1756
01:25:55,616 --> 01:25:57,984
Counselor!
1757
01:25:58,018 --> 01:26:00,586
Yes, your honor. I'm sorry.
1758
01:26:03,423 --> 01:26:08,561
The defense calls... The defense calls dr.
werner spitz.
1759
01:26:10,964 --> 01:26:12,965
Excuse me.
1760
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:14,834
All right.
1761
01:26:14,868 --> 01:26:16,202
Excuse me.
1762
01:26:21,541 --> 01:26:23,909
Philip, we'll just...
Let's see tomorrow,
1763
01:26:23,944 --> 01:26:25,177
we'll see how it goes.
1764
01:26:25,212 --> 01:26:27,446
Raise your right hand.
1765
01:26:27,481 --> 01:26:30,182
Do you solemnly swear that the
testimony you're about to give
1766
01:26:30,217 --> 01:26:31,584
in the matter now
before this court...
1767
01:26:31,618 --> 01:26:35,087
Phil spector has arrived.
Take a look behind me
1768
01:26:35,122 --> 01:26:38,591
as his mercedes begins to make
its way down the drive.
1769
01:26:38,625 --> 01:26:41,994
You can see his driver going at
a very fast speed
1770
01:26:42,029 --> 01:26:44,697
while the protesters are yelling
"justice for lana."
1771
01:26:44,731 --> 01:26:47,733
Here he comes as he makes his
way down the street,
1772
01:26:47,768 --> 01:26:53,372
up to his mansion, and he's
pulling up to... Go ahead.
1773
01:26:53,407 --> 01:26:54,407
No, no, no, no, no.
1774
01:26:54,441 --> 01:26:55,374
Stop. Get back.
1775
01:26:55,409 --> 01:26:56,676
Hold on.
1776
01:26:56,710 --> 01:26:58,010
On the driveway...
1777
01:27:04,785 --> 01:27:05,785
I've got one for you.
1778
01:27:05,819 --> 01:27:06,786
All right.
1779
01:27:06,820 --> 01:27:08,487
Why the barbed wire?
1780
01:27:08,522 --> 01:27:10,089
To keep people out.
1781
01:27:10,123 --> 01:27:13,726
Nobody was trying to get in.
1782
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:16,762
Why does the monster
live in a castle?
1783
01:27:16,797 --> 01:27:18,631
Why does the minotaur
live in a cave?
1784
01:27:18,665 --> 01:27:20,433
I mean, he could live
wherever he wanted.
1785
01:27:20,467 --> 01:27:22,335
Why does he live in a cave?
1786
01:27:22,369 --> 01:27:24,637
Why does the minotaur
live in a cave?
1787
01:27:24,671 --> 01:27:27,406
To keep himself
from doing harm.
1788
01:27:27,441 --> 01:27:29,475
But he came out.
1789
01:27:35,682 --> 01:27:39,251
I believe he is not guilty.
1790
01:27:39,286 --> 01:27:41,320
Are you sure?
1791
01:27:41,355 --> 01:27:43,389
No.
1792
01:27:43,423 --> 01:27:45,658
But I have a reasonable doubt.
1793
01:27:47,227 --> 01:27:48,961
This is brian jennings.
1794
01:27:48,995 --> 01:27:52,098
Another day, another
turn in the saga.
1795
01:27:52,132 --> 01:27:56,168
Phil spector retired for the
night to his home that
1796
01:27:56,203 --> 01:27:57,837
that he calls his "castle."
1797
01:27:57,871 --> 01:28:00,106
And we'll leave you
for tonight, too.
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