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Just gets in there somehow. 10 00:00:25,700 --> 00:00:31,700 # Knowing me, knowing you, it's the best I can do. # 11 00:00:31,700 --> 00:00:34,780 Their music has stood the test of five decades 12 00:00:34,780 --> 00:00:36,740 and is celebrated the world over. 13 00:00:38,980 --> 00:00:41,500 There was no hype that they had to live up to. 14 00:00:41,500 --> 00:00:43,340 They created their own hype. 15 00:00:44,660 --> 00:00:47,620 But 40 years ago, it was a different story. 16 00:00:47,620 --> 00:00:51,860 The band fell apart and Abba slipped into obscurity. 17 00:00:51,860 --> 00:00:54,060 I think they were just sick of it by that point. 18 00:00:54,060 --> 00:00:57,340 Suddenly, Abba began looking a little bit passe. 19 00:00:57,340 --> 00:01:01,580 We tell a remarkable tale that spans four decades - 20 00:01:01,580 --> 00:01:06,660 how Benny and Bjorn experimented with new music and new artists... 21 00:01:06,660 --> 00:01:08,820 It was an absolute thrill. I couldn't believe it 22 00:01:08,820 --> 00:01:10,420 that we made it to number one. 23 00:01:10,420 --> 00:01:14,660 ..while Agnetha and Frida both chased international solo successes. 24 00:01:14,660 --> 00:01:17,620 I remember being amazed when Phil Collins said, 25 00:01:17,620 --> 00:01:21,060 "Frida from Abba has asked me to do an album." 26 00:01:21,060 --> 00:01:24,420 But their lives would be littered with tragedy and loss. 27 00:01:24,420 --> 00:01:28,860 Agnetha was going through a very serious and dangerous situation. 28 00:01:28,860 --> 00:01:31,140 She was a prisoner in her own home 29 00:01:31,140 --> 00:01:33,340 for nearly two years because of this man. 30 00:01:33,340 --> 00:01:35,740 Frida had lost her daughter after a car accident, 31 00:01:35,740 --> 00:01:38,180 which was a tragic event. 32 00:01:39,820 --> 00:01:42,020 In this extraordinary documentary, 33 00:01:42,020 --> 00:01:44,540 we hear from the band's close friends... 34 00:01:44,540 --> 00:01:46,780 I'm not surprised that they took a break 35 00:01:46,780 --> 00:01:49,340 because they wanted another playground. 36 00:01:49,340 --> 00:01:50,700 ..collaborators... 37 00:01:50,700 --> 00:01:54,460 Benny told me about the project and I thought it was really exciting. 38 00:01:54,460 --> 00:01:56,740 ..music industry insiders... 39 00:01:56,740 --> 00:02:00,740 Seeing her back as a more mature, confident woman 40 00:02:00,740 --> 00:02:02,940 was a really beautiful thing to see. 41 00:02:02,940 --> 00:02:05,340 ..and stars of Mamma Mia... 42 00:02:05,340 --> 00:02:07,940 They said, "Would you like to be Meryl Streep's friend in it?" 43 00:02:07,940 --> 00:02:09,940 And I said, "Yes!" 44 00:02:09,940 --> 00:02:13,780 ..one of the most successful movie musicals of all time. 45 00:02:13,780 --> 00:02:16,100 It was the first day, Benny's on the piano and I said, 46 00:02:16,100 --> 00:02:17,980 "Let's sing Dancing Queen!" He's... 47 00:02:17,980 --> 00:02:20,660 We look back at an incredible journey... 48 00:02:20,660 --> 00:02:23,620 They have survived everything that the world 49 00:02:23,620 --> 00:02:25,540 can possibly throw at them. 50 00:02:25,540 --> 00:02:30,020 ..and tell the remarkable story of Abba's missing 40 years. 51 00:02:34,020 --> 00:02:36,100 CROWD CHEERING 52 00:02:36,100 --> 00:02:38,060 MUSIC: I Still Have Faith In You by Abba 53 00:02:43,820 --> 00:02:48,620 # I still have faith in you 54 00:02:48,620 --> 00:02:52,980 I see now it now... # 55 00:02:52,980 --> 00:02:57,220 Abba, the world's biggest-selling pop band of all time, 56 00:02:57,220 --> 00:02:59,900 are back in force after a 40-year break. 57 00:03:01,860 --> 00:03:06,420 # There was a union 58 00:03:07,860 --> 00:03:10,260 # Of heart and mind... # 59 00:03:10,260 --> 00:03:11,620 It's really exciting. 60 00:03:11,620 --> 00:03:14,460 We've all been living off the original stuff 61 00:03:14,460 --> 00:03:15,620 from all those years ago. 62 00:03:15,620 --> 00:03:18,740 What they've done is music history. 63 00:03:18,740 --> 00:03:22,980 It's just the best. Abba have magic. 64 00:03:22,980 --> 00:03:25,100 # We do have it in us 65 00:03:27,860 --> 00:03:32,660 # New spirit has arrived... # 66 00:03:32,660 --> 00:03:37,580 This announcement in September 2021 of a return album - Voyage - 67 00:03:37,580 --> 00:03:40,220 and a brand-new show was the news 68 00:03:40,220 --> 00:03:42,620 the world had been waiting for for decades. 69 00:03:44,540 --> 00:03:46,740 Abba are back together. 70 00:03:46,740 --> 00:03:48,660 Officially. This is huge. 71 00:03:48,660 --> 00:03:51,700 That was just like childlike wish fulfilment. 72 00:03:51,700 --> 00:03:54,220 I'm very surprised cos I thought they were definitely 73 00:03:54,220 --> 00:03:57,100 never going to play again. 74 00:03:57,100 --> 00:04:01,500 Fans from all over the world went wild when seeing this incredible 75 00:04:01,500 --> 00:04:06,460 footage of super troopers Agnetha, Bjorn, Benny and Frida, 76 00:04:06,460 --> 00:04:10,740 now all in their seventies, reunited in a studio for the first time 77 00:04:10,740 --> 00:04:13,100 since they split 40 years ago. 78 00:04:15,380 --> 00:04:18,860 I was really thrilled seeing these photos. 79 00:04:18,860 --> 00:04:20,940 Frida, she told me about this. 80 00:04:20,940 --> 00:04:24,660 She said it was so warm and so exciting 81 00:04:24,660 --> 00:04:28,380 and a bit strange, but yet very familiar. 82 00:04:28,380 --> 00:04:33,180 It was so joyful to be together in the studio again, the four of us. 83 00:04:34,300 --> 00:04:37,300 The initial project was shrouded in secrecy 84 00:04:37,300 --> 00:04:40,220 and, at first, was only meant to be two songs - 85 00:04:40,220 --> 00:04:43,660 I Still Have Faith In You and Don't Shut Me Down. 86 00:04:46,020 --> 00:04:49,700 # A while ago, I heard the sound of children's laughter 87 00:04:49,700 --> 00:04:53,380 # Now it's quiet, so I guess they left the park... # 88 00:04:53,380 --> 00:04:56,620 One of those people entrusted with Abba's comeback 89 00:04:56,620 --> 00:04:59,300 was renowned sound engineer Bernard Lohr. 90 00:04:59,300 --> 00:05:02,900 # The sun is going down, it's getting dark 91 00:05:02,900 --> 00:05:04,980 # I realise I'm cold... # 92 00:05:04,980 --> 00:05:08,220 It was Benny that told me first about the project, 93 00:05:08,220 --> 00:05:11,700 and I thought it was really exciting. 94 00:05:16,740 --> 00:05:20,380 It was a bit scary first to see if the girls, for instance, 95 00:05:20,380 --> 00:05:24,380 when they started singing, "Will this work?" 96 00:05:24,380 --> 00:05:26,660 Bjorn and Benny were sitting in the control room 97 00:05:26,660 --> 00:05:28,980 just waiting to hear them sing together. 98 00:05:28,980 --> 00:05:31,180 Emotionally, it was...yeah. 99 00:05:31,180 --> 00:05:33,380 The biggest thing was when they started singing 100 00:05:33,380 --> 00:05:35,020 and it sounded so good. 101 00:05:36,220 --> 00:05:38,620 # And now you see another me 102 00:05:38,620 --> 00:05:40,940 # I've been reloaded, yeah 103 00:05:40,940 --> 00:05:43,620 VOICES ONLY: # I'm fired up, don't shut me down. # 104 00:05:43,620 --> 00:05:46,740 Hearing their harmonies converge for the first time 105 00:05:46,740 --> 00:05:49,980 in so many years, and you thought, 106 00:05:49,980 --> 00:05:51,900 "Yeah, that can only be Abba." 107 00:05:51,900 --> 00:05:55,460 # Do I have it in me? # 108 00:05:55,460 --> 00:05:59,540 I think it's wonderful that they are there and that you can hear the age 109 00:05:59,540 --> 00:06:02,980 of the singers and that you can hear the maturity of them. 110 00:06:02,980 --> 00:06:05,420 I felt a sense of, like, familiarity, 111 00:06:05,420 --> 00:06:07,700 which was really nice because I'm a big fan, 112 00:06:07,700 --> 00:06:10,340 so, like, hearing that, you know, was like, "Oh!" 113 00:06:10,340 --> 00:06:14,060 # New spirit has arrived... # 114 00:06:14,060 --> 00:06:17,260 It's like Abba, you know? It's still Abba, and they're back. 115 00:06:17,260 --> 00:06:18,980 # The joy and the sorrow 116 00:06:18,980 --> 00:06:21,460 # We have a story 117 00:06:21,460 --> 00:06:24,660 # And it survived... # 118 00:06:24,660 --> 00:06:28,660 You know it immediately, that style, that that sound. 119 00:06:28,660 --> 00:06:32,580 BENNY: It's been 40 years and it was like no time had passed. 120 00:06:32,580 --> 00:06:33,900 Quite amazing. 121 00:06:36,700 --> 00:06:40,180 The members of Abba now look closer than ever. 122 00:06:40,180 --> 00:06:43,260 But rewind the clock just over 40 years, 123 00:06:43,260 --> 00:06:46,060 and it was a completely different story. 124 00:06:53,540 --> 00:06:58,020 Back in 1981, after almost ten years of huge success, 125 00:06:58,020 --> 00:07:00,700 Abba seemed to be running out of steam. 126 00:07:00,700 --> 00:07:03,620 The atmosphere within the group had changed a lot by then. 127 00:07:03,620 --> 00:07:05,820 There was a lot of tension between the four of them. 128 00:07:05,820 --> 00:07:08,500 I mean, they were both divorced couples now, 129 00:07:08,500 --> 00:07:13,060 and the motivation to do something kind of faded. 130 00:07:13,060 --> 00:07:17,700 The feeling was not that happy feeling that was in the beginning 131 00:07:17,700 --> 00:07:20,540 and during the whole period. 132 00:07:20,540 --> 00:07:22,740 It must be personal, I think. 133 00:07:22,740 --> 00:07:25,420 Bjorn and Benny have always been very close together, 134 00:07:25,420 --> 00:07:28,060 but I don't know about the female side. 135 00:07:28,060 --> 00:07:30,220 MUSIC: Sweet Dreams by Eurhythmics 136 00:07:30,220 --> 00:07:32,620 Alongside tensions within the band, 137 00:07:32,620 --> 00:07:35,940 Abba's popularity was also in decline. 138 00:07:35,940 --> 00:07:39,540 # Sweet dreams are made of this 139 00:07:39,540 --> 00:07:43,100 # Who am I to disagree? 140 00:07:43,100 --> 00:07:44,380 # I travel the world... # 141 00:07:44,380 --> 00:07:48,060 With the emergence of a new youth culture in the early '80s, 142 00:07:48,060 --> 00:07:51,500 the Swedish pop band was losing its cool factor. 143 00:07:51,500 --> 00:07:54,620 I think on every level they kind of then seemed a little bit naff, 144 00:07:54,620 --> 00:07:58,780 a little bit like they were kind of from that previous era of music. 145 00:08:00,140 --> 00:08:01,940 HE MOUTHS 146 00:08:01,940 --> 00:08:05,500 Suddenly Abba began looking a little bit passe. 147 00:08:05,500 --> 00:08:09,780 And when Benny and Bjorn went back in the studio in May 1982 148 00:08:09,780 --> 00:08:13,940 for a tentative ninth album, the internal energy had gone. 149 00:08:15,060 --> 00:08:19,020 They laid down tracks, including I'm The City, You Owe Me One 150 00:08:19,020 --> 00:08:22,620 and Just Like That, but they weren't satisfied. 151 00:08:22,620 --> 00:08:26,220 It all felt very lacklustre, so they had to scrap the idea 152 00:08:26,220 --> 00:08:30,100 of a ninth album because the songs just weren't coming. 153 00:08:32,220 --> 00:08:35,380 Instead, they released a singles double album, 154 00:08:35,380 --> 00:08:38,420 ironically entitled The First Ten Years, 155 00:08:38,420 --> 00:08:40,860 which included a couple of new releases - 156 00:08:40,860 --> 00:08:43,860 Under Attack and The Day Before You Came... 157 00:08:43,860 --> 00:08:47,700 # I must have left my house at eight because I always do... # 158 00:08:47,700 --> 00:08:50,700 ..a sombre track sung by Agnetha on her own, 159 00:08:50,700 --> 00:08:53,020 with a simple synthesiser melody. 160 00:08:54,060 --> 00:08:58,500 # I must have read the morning paper going into town... # 161 00:08:58,500 --> 00:09:00,780 The Day Before You Came tells it all. 162 00:09:00,780 --> 00:09:03,500 You suddenly come to a song which is brilliant. 163 00:09:03,500 --> 00:09:06,220 # I must have made my desk 164 00:09:06,220 --> 00:09:09,620 # Around a quarter after nine... # 165 00:09:09,620 --> 00:09:11,220 But it's not Abba. 166 00:09:11,220 --> 00:09:16,020 # And stopped along the way to buy some Chinese food to go... # 167 00:09:16,020 --> 00:09:18,740 It was actually slightly more in keeping 168 00:09:18,740 --> 00:09:21,980 with that kind of dark and brooding aesthetic 169 00:09:21,980 --> 00:09:24,180 that was more zeitgeist. 170 00:09:24,180 --> 00:09:27,380 But coming from Abba, I think there was just a jarring 171 00:09:27,380 --> 00:09:29,780 that people didn't quite understand. 172 00:09:29,780 --> 00:09:32,420 It's now held up as an Abba classic, 173 00:09:32,420 --> 00:09:36,060 but, at the time, only reached number 32 on the UK charts. 174 00:09:37,540 --> 00:09:41,140 For Abba, that was like a massive sort of failure. 175 00:09:41,140 --> 00:09:45,660 # I must have gone to bed around a quarter after ten. # 176 00:09:48,420 --> 00:09:52,180 By the end of '82, with Bjorn and Benny remarried 177 00:09:52,180 --> 00:09:54,460 and Frida and Agnetha not, 178 00:09:54,460 --> 00:09:57,540 tensions amongst the band members were intolerable. 179 00:09:59,060 --> 00:10:01,060 APPLAUSE 180 00:10:02,140 --> 00:10:06,380 Ladies and gentlemen, all four members of Abba. 181 00:10:06,380 --> 00:10:09,460 Invited on Noel Edmonds' Late, Late Breakfast Show 182 00:10:09,460 --> 00:10:11,260 to promote their new tracks, 183 00:10:11,260 --> 00:10:14,860 you could have cut the atmosphere with a knife. 184 00:10:14,860 --> 00:10:16,860 It was a difficult time because there was not a lot 185 00:10:16,860 --> 00:10:19,620 of motivation left for Abba to continue 186 00:10:19,620 --> 00:10:22,980 and Bjorn and Benny were both fathers again. 187 00:10:22,980 --> 00:10:24,860 The papers recently have been full of stories 188 00:10:24,860 --> 00:10:27,500 that you're going to split eventually. 189 00:10:27,500 --> 00:10:28,940 We're not. You're not? 190 00:10:28,940 --> 00:10:30,620 No. AUDIENCE LAUGHS 191 00:10:30,620 --> 00:10:34,460 Well, they're obviously relieved to hear it. I was just going to ask you if that ever occurred to you, 192 00:10:34,460 --> 00:10:37,620 and who would make the decision? I mean, would it be a joint decision? 193 00:10:37,620 --> 00:10:39,660 It would be. Yes, we would. 194 00:10:39,660 --> 00:10:42,340 The tension, the body language is almost unbearable. 195 00:10:42,340 --> 00:10:45,260 I mean, I sort of remember it looked strange to me at the time. 196 00:10:45,260 --> 00:10:48,980 Frida looks so incredible. She's got this punky haircut, 197 00:10:48,980 --> 00:10:53,460 which is a kind of classic post-divorce kind of gesture. 198 00:10:53,460 --> 00:10:56,340 It's very telling cos body language does not lie, 199 00:10:56,340 --> 00:10:58,500 so even though with their mouths, they're saying, 200 00:10:58,500 --> 00:11:00,340 "No, we're completely together," 201 00:11:00,340 --> 00:11:02,900 actually, their behaviour is not very together. 202 00:11:02,900 --> 00:11:06,380 What I'd like to do, really, is just ask you to publicly tell 203 00:11:06,380 --> 00:11:08,580 us your favourite Abba tunes. 204 00:11:08,580 --> 00:11:11,420 No, it's really a difficult decision because, I mean, 205 00:11:11,420 --> 00:11:14,860 Benny and Bjorn have written so many good songs. Thank you. Thank you. 206 00:11:14,860 --> 00:11:17,140 Yes, but you should know about that by now! 207 00:11:17,140 --> 00:11:18,740 Well, you never said that. 208 00:11:18,740 --> 00:11:20,940 OK, so it's the first time. 209 00:11:20,940 --> 00:11:25,180 No-one knew it then, but this incredibly uncomfortable appearance 210 00:11:25,180 --> 00:11:28,500 would be Abba's last ever TV interview 211 00:11:28,500 --> 00:11:33,340 and would mark the beginning of a long and tumultuous 40 years apart. 212 00:11:38,900 --> 00:11:44,180 By the end of 1982, Bjorn and Benny had lost interest in composing songs 213 00:11:44,180 --> 00:11:47,660 for Abba and plans for a new album were scrapped. 214 00:11:51,700 --> 00:11:55,220 For a year now, they had been focused on a very different project, 215 00:11:55,220 --> 00:12:01,620 away from Frida and Agnetha, with top musical lyricist Tim Rice. 216 00:12:01,620 --> 00:12:04,700 We were at a stage with Abba where we felt 217 00:12:04,700 --> 00:12:08,140 sort of the energy running out slightly, 218 00:12:08,140 --> 00:12:11,500 so it was time for a pause. 219 00:12:11,500 --> 00:12:15,540 Bjorn and Benny decided that things were coming to a close 220 00:12:15,540 --> 00:12:20,140 before the women were aware of what the schism was going to be 221 00:12:20,140 --> 00:12:23,060 and what their plans were going to be after that point. 222 00:12:23,060 --> 00:12:25,060 ORCHESTRAL MUSIC PLAYS 223 00:12:27,940 --> 00:12:32,180 The news of Bjorn and Benny working with another songwriting legend - 224 00:12:32,180 --> 00:12:37,500 Tim Rice - got record producers excited and soon a concept album 225 00:12:37,500 --> 00:12:40,140 for a brand-new musical called Chess, 226 00:12:40,140 --> 00:12:43,940 with West End superstar Elaine Paige, was under way. 227 00:12:43,940 --> 00:12:48,140 Tim started going to and fro Stockholm to work with them. 228 00:12:48,140 --> 00:12:50,180 I remember this distinctly, 229 00:12:50,180 --> 00:12:53,220 him coming back with the initial demo tapes, 230 00:12:53,220 --> 00:12:58,180 mostly played on piano synth. 231 00:12:58,180 --> 00:13:01,100 Some of them were Benny and Bjorn lala-ing along, 232 00:13:01,100 --> 00:13:03,020 you know, dummy lyrics, 233 00:13:03,020 --> 00:13:07,260 and they just kept on coming one after the other. 234 00:13:07,260 --> 00:13:09,740 Set during a Cold War chess tournament 235 00:13:09,740 --> 00:13:13,980 between two grandmasters - one American, the other Soviet - 236 00:13:13,980 --> 00:13:17,420 Chess tells the story of their intense professional battle 237 00:13:17,420 --> 00:13:20,220 and a personal one over two women. 238 00:13:20,220 --> 00:13:22,900 And I just thought, 239 00:13:22,900 --> 00:13:25,980 "Wow, this is... This is incredible." 240 00:13:25,980 --> 00:13:28,420 And it was a wonderful mix of music. 241 00:13:28,420 --> 00:13:30,940 Some of them were kind of classically operatic, 242 00:13:30,940 --> 00:13:34,260 others soft rock and pop, and even rap. 243 00:13:34,260 --> 00:13:36,060 # Bangkok, oriental setting 244 00:13:36,060 --> 00:13:38,460 # And the city don't know what the city is gettin'... # 245 00:13:38,460 --> 00:13:42,700 In the Abba Museum in Stockholm, curator Ingmarie has dedicated 246 00:13:42,700 --> 00:13:45,900 a whole section to this monumental project 247 00:13:45,900 --> 00:13:49,260 that Bjorn and Benny slaved over for five years. 248 00:13:49,260 --> 00:13:51,300 # Since the Tirolean Spa had the chess boys in it... # 249 00:13:51,300 --> 00:13:54,540 I'm not at all surprised that they actually took a break 250 00:13:54,540 --> 00:13:58,380 from Abba because they wanted to get to know 251 00:13:58,380 --> 00:14:01,540 another playground, which was the musical. 252 00:14:01,540 --> 00:14:06,540 They took all the good things from Abba into the musical world. 253 00:14:06,540 --> 00:14:10,540 If you listen to songs like One Night In Bangkok, that's a pop song. 254 00:14:10,540 --> 00:14:14,900 # One night in Bangkok and the tough guys tumble 255 00:14:14,900 --> 00:14:18,380 # Can't be too careful with your company... # 256 00:14:19,580 --> 00:14:23,060 It's a different concept. It's a different challenge. 257 00:14:23,060 --> 00:14:27,140 But arguably, Chess has got songs that were probably 258 00:14:27,140 --> 00:14:30,220 more suited to Abba than anybody else. 259 00:14:31,340 --> 00:14:33,300 MUSIC: I Know Him So Well from Chess 260 00:14:35,660 --> 00:14:40,340 And the most recognisable song from Chess is another female duet 261 00:14:40,340 --> 00:14:44,220 featuring Elaine Paige and Barbara Dickson. 262 00:14:44,220 --> 00:14:46,140 # Wasn't it good? 263 00:14:46,140 --> 00:14:47,780 # Oh so good 264 00:14:47,780 --> 00:14:49,540 # Wasn't he fine? 265 00:14:49,540 --> 00:14:51,180 # Oh so fine 266 00:14:51,180 --> 00:14:54,180 # Isn't it madness 267 00:14:54,180 --> 00:14:56,900 # He can't be mine? # 268 00:14:56,900 --> 00:14:58,820 Of course, there is Abba in the bottom. 269 00:14:58,820 --> 00:15:04,140 I mean, you can actually hear Frida and Agnetha. 270 00:15:04,140 --> 00:15:07,020 # More security 271 00:15:07,020 --> 00:15:11,060 # He needs his fantasy and freedom 272 00:15:11,060 --> 00:15:16,060 # I know him so well. # 273 00:15:16,060 --> 00:15:18,060 ELAINE PAIGE: Well, it was a challenge, you know, 274 00:15:18,060 --> 00:15:19,980 cos I wanted to do my best. 275 00:15:19,980 --> 00:15:23,380 And I remember thinking the attention to detail, 276 00:15:23,380 --> 00:15:27,700 there was nothing missed, even the slightest thing. 277 00:15:27,700 --> 00:15:30,820 If it wasn't quite right for some reason, 278 00:15:30,820 --> 00:15:33,060 or the rhythm was a bit, you know... 279 00:15:33,060 --> 00:15:35,220 ..no, it would all be done again. 280 00:15:35,220 --> 00:15:36,340 No, it's... 281 00:15:36,340 --> 00:15:38,060 # Well, at least she's a good-looking spy... # 282 00:15:38,060 --> 00:15:39,460 Bum, bum, bum. 283 00:15:39,460 --> 00:15:41,180 # What if my Russian friend thinks... # 284 00:15:41,180 --> 00:15:43,980 Yeah, you can sing it like that. So, leave another beat? 285 00:15:43,980 --> 00:15:45,180 Yes. 286 00:15:45,180 --> 00:15:48,020 It was fantastic for me cos I'm kind of the same myself. 287 00:15:48,020 --> 00:15:51,380 It can drive people mad but, for me, I loved it. 288 00:15:51,380 --> 00:15:53,220 # Wasn't it good? 289 00:15:53,220 --> 00:15:55,020 # Oh, so good 290 00:15:55,020 --> 00:15:56,740 # Wasn't he fine? 291 00:15:56,740 --> 00:15:58,300 # Oh, so fine 292 00:15:58,300 --> 00:16:01,220 # Isn't it madness 293 00:16:01,220 --> 00:16:03,900 # He won't be mine? 294 00:16:05,140 --> 00:16:06,620 # Didn't I know... # 295 00:16:06,620 --> 00:16:10,300 I Know Him So Well hit number one in the UK charts 296 00:16:10,300 --> 00:16:12,540 and went on to become one of the best-selling 297 00:16:12,540 --> 00:16:15,060 female duets of all time. 298 00:16:15,060 --> 00:16:17,060 ELAINE PAIGE: Chess was fantastic. 299 00:16:17,060 --> 00:16:20,460 I mean, that was the best score of the 1980s. 300 00:16:20,460 --> 00:16:30,940 # I know him so well. # 301 00:16:33,660 --> 00:16:37,300 On the back of the worldwide success of the concept album, 302 00:16:37,300 --> 00:16:41,140 a West End stage show in London was inevitable. 303 00:16:41,140 --> 00:16:43,700 I can't imagine Benny and Bjorn being daunted 304 00:16:43,700 --> 00:16:45,940 or nervous about anything ever. 305 00:16:45,940 --> 00:16:48,340 But when Chess launched at the West End, 306 00:16:48,340 --> 00:16:51,540 there was a huge amount of international interest. 307 00:16:51,540 --> 00:16:54,220 When it comes to the opening of Chess, 308 00:16:54,220 --> 00:16:58,660 of course it was a ton of stress. 309 00:16:58,660 --> 00:17:01,460 I believe I'm right in saying it was, at that time, 310 00:17:01,460 --> 00:17:05,940 the most expensive musical ever to open in the West End. 311 00:17:07,060 --> 00:17:10,460 Despite a staggering £4 million budget, 312 00:17:10,460 --> 00:17:13,380 the musical opened to mixed reviews. 313 00:17:13,380 --> 00:17:15,700 But the experience of making Chess 314 00:17:15,700 --> 00:17:19,540 gave Benny and Bjorn an exciting new career trajectory. 315 00:17:20,940 --> 00:17:23,740 It was the beginning for them, I think, to branch out 316 00:17:23,740 --> 00:17:26,580 into musical theatre. It didn't put them off, did it? 317 00:17:26,580 --> 00:17:29,220 SHE CHUCKLES 318 00:17:29,220 --> 00:17:31,820 While the boys had been immersed in Chess, 319 00:17:31,820 --> 00:17:34,460 both Frida and Agnetha were left wondering 320 00:17:34,460 --> 00:17:37,620 where the next Abba song was coming from. 321 00:17:37,620 --> 00:17:40,740 They don't have the security of Bjorn and Benny any more, 322 00:17:40,740 --> 00:17:43,420 two men that they've been working very closely with, 323 00:17:43,420 --> 00:17:45,860 and all of a sudden you're like out on your own. 324 00:17:45,860 --> 00:17:48,540 It must be really scary. 325 00:17:48,540 --> 00:17:51,460 Frida found herself in a unique position 326 00:17:51,460 --> 00:17:54,860 as being a solo artist by default. 327 00:17:54,860 --> 00:17:57,940 And her musical inspiration came from an unlikely 328 00:17:57,940 --> 00:18:00,380 and very British rock star. 329 00:18:00,380 --> 00:18:03,380 On her way to the summer house, her daughter played her a cassette 330 00:18:03,380 --> 00:18:06,500 which was Face Value, the album of Phil Collins. 331 00:18:06,500 --> 00:18:11,780 In The Air Tonight, the album's standout hit, was darkly atmospheric 332 00:18:11,780 --> 00:18:16,340 and featured angry lyrics concerning Phil Collins' bitter divorce, 333 00:18:16,340 --> 00:18:19,380 and it cut Frida to the core. 334 00:18:19,380 --> 00:18:21,340 MUSIC: In The Air Tonight by Phil Collins 335 00:18:22,460 --> 00:18:27,580 # I can feel it coming in the air tonight 336 00:18:28,940 --> 00:18:30,740 # Oh, Lord... # 337 00:18:30,740 --> 00:18:33,620 She loved the Face Value album 338 00:18:33,620 --> 00:18:37,140 that Phil and I had done together. 339 00:18:37,140 --> 00:18:38,780 It was a personal thing as well. 340 00:18:38,780 --> 00:18:41,700 I think she felt attracted to the songs 341 00:18:41,700 --> 00:18:45,300 that he had written related to his divorce. 342 00:18:45,300 --> 00:18:49,700 Inspired by Face Value, Frida found the strength to break free 343 00:18:49,700 --> 00:18:52,780 from Abba and record a solo album, 344 00:18:52,780 --> 00:18:55,580 and she asked Phil Collins to produce it. 345 00:18:57,380 --> 00:19:00,100 FRIDA: Abba has been working for ten years now 346 00:19:00,100 --> 00:19:04,220 and...in a way, I feel 347 00:19:04,220 --> 00:19:06,740 that I'm stuck in a pattern, you know? 348 00:19:06,740 --> 00:19:11,340 And as my life has changed so completely in other respects, 349 00:19:11,340 --> 00:19:16,060 I feel that it's a necessity to change even the musical aspect. 350 00:19:17,140 --> 00:19:19,620 I remember being amazed when Phil said, 351 00:19:19,620 --> 00:19:23,900 "Oh, Frida from Abba has asked us to do an album. 352 00:19:23,900 --> 00:19:25,420 "Let's... Let's do it." 353 00:19:28,900 --> 00:19:32,180 Hugh Padgham was part of the all-British crew who, 354 00:19:32,180 --> 00:19:35,820 with Phil Collins, headed to Stockholm to record the album 355 00:19:35,820 --> 00:19:39,140 in Abba's very own Polar Studios. 356 00:19:39,140 --> 00:19:42,060 I was very, very tense and nervous. 357 00:19:42,060 --> 00:19:46,260 It was the first thing I had done outside Abba 358 00:19:46,260 --> 00:19:49,220 and all the people were new for me. 359 00:19:49,220 --> 00:19:52,460 I didn't... I had met Phil twice, 360 00:19:52,460 --> 00:19:54,700 and the others I hadn't met at all. 361 00:19:55,820 --> 00:19:58,020 Everything was kind of strange to her 362 00:19:58,020 --> 00:20:02,460 and she was so nervous that she had to call in sick the next day, 363 00:20:02,460 --> 00:20:04,140 so the second day of recording. 364 00:20:07,700 --> 00:20:11,300 OK-doke. A little bit of guitar, please. 365 00:20:11,300 --> 00:20:13,940 I can imagine if I'd been in her shoes 366 00:20:13,940 --> 00:20:16,900 and being outside your comfort zone like that, it would have been quite 367 00:20:16,900 --> 00:20:20,100 nerve-racking cos we all knew each other, 368 00:20:20,100 --> 00:20:23,580 so she was like thrown in with all these guys. 369 00:20:24,740 --> 00:20:27,060 I can't even imagine what it was like 370 00:20:27,060 --> 00:20:29,060 cos I know what I've been through. 371 00:20:29,060 --> 00:20:32,820 I've been in way too many sessions where it's like me and five men. 372 00:20:32,820 --> 00:20:36,580 Just being in that room is intimidating in itself. 373 00:20:36,580 --> 00:20:38,940 She was kind of subdued and a little bit timid, 374 00:20:38,940 --> 00:20:42,500 and she didn't really dare to say what she wanted in the album, 375 00:20:42,500 --> 00:20:45,460 what she wanted it to be like. Phil was kind of annoyed about this 376 00:20:45,460 --> 00:20:49,700 and tried to convince her to speak out and to say... 377 00:20:49,700 --> 00:20:53,060 "It's your album, baby," he said, "You have to decide." 378 00:20:53,060 --> 00:20:55,060 PLAYS POP-ROCK TUNE 379 00:20:57,740 --> 00:21:01,180 # You made me look into your eyes... # 380 00:21:01,180 --> 00:21:04,500 But eventually, Frida and her new band bonded. 381 00:21:07,060 --> 00:21:09,260 Well, when she found out that they were a team, 382 00:21:09,260 --> 00:21:12,860 a kind of small family, then she kind of felt at ease 383 00:21:12,860 --> 00:21:15,340 and found her self-confidence again. 384 00:21:15,340 --> 00:21:18,340 Well, you know what I mean... Man. ..man? FRIDA CHUCKLES 385 00:21:18,340 --> 00:21:22,780 She had this sort of hair thing going on, and when she was singing, 386 00:21:22,780 --> 00:21:26,660 she used to put her headphones on under her hair. 387 00:21:26,660 --> 00:21:29,100 She didn't want to mess her hair up. 388 00:21:29,100 --> 00:21:31,300 She was great. She became one of the boys. 389 00:21:33,340 --> 00:21:38,020 But Frida's attempt to go solo and find her own style away from Abba 390 00:21:38,020 --> 00:21:40,380 raised an eyebrow with their manager 391 00:21:40,380 --> 00:21:43,020 and Polar Studios boss, Stig Anderson. 392 00:21:44,860 --> 00:21:47,900 Stig Anderson wasn't happy at all with the way the album was going 393 00:21:47,900 --> 00:21:52,140 because what he wanted was songs, pop songs with a very strong hook. 394 00:21:52,140 --> 00:21:57,340 I remember Stig saying something that made Frida cry. 395 00:21:57,340 --> 00:22:01,580 Stig didn't think that there was a hit on the album, 396 00:22:01,580 --> 00:22:07,860 and he asked Bjorn and Benny to come up with some songs. 397 00:22:07,860 --> 00:22:10,700 It's almost like, "Oh, well, she can't possibly do it on her own," 398 00:22:10,700 --> 00:22:13,900 undermining the potential that a woman might actually 399 00:22:13,900 --> 00:22:16,060 have something to offer in her own right. 400 00:22:16,060 --> 00:22:18,620 But Frida was quite forceful. 401 00:22:18,620 --> 00:22:20,300 She said, "No way." 402 00:22:20,300 --> 00:22:23,660 MUSIC: I Know There's Something Going On by Anni-Frid Lyngstad 403 00:22:23,660 --> 00:22:25,740 Frida proved Stig wrong, 404 00:22:25,740 --> 00:22:29,340 and the stomping title track, There's Something Going On - 405 00:22:29,340 --> 00:22:33,100 tellingly about a woman who suspects her lover is having an affair - 406 00:22:33,100 --> 00:22:34,820 was an international hit. 407 00:22:36,100 --> 00:22:42,180 # I can see that it won't be long... # 408 00:22:42,180 --> 00:22:45,060 It was a big departure from what Abba was recording before. 409 00:22:45,060 --> 00:22:51,100 # You grow cold when you keep holding on... # 410 00:22:51,100 --> 00:22:54,540 She clearly said to Phil, "Whatever you did on In The Air Tonight, 411 00:22:54,540 --> 00:22:56,420 "I'd like quite a lot more of that." 412 00:22:56,420 --> 00:22:58,500 POP ROCK VIBES 413 00:22:58,500 --> 00:23:01,620 # I know there's something going on... # 414 00:23:03,060 --> 00:23:06,620 She was marking out her territory as a solo artist. 415 00:23:06,620 --> 00:23:10,500 She's saying, "Forget about Abba. I don't sound like that any more." 416 00:23:10,500 --> 00:23:14,660 "I don't look like that any more. You need to take me as I am now." 417 00:23:16,860 --> 00:23:19,700 The critical and commercial success of the album 418 00:23:19,700 --> 00:23:24,940 was just what Frida needed as she moved further away from Abba. 419 00:23:24,940 --> 00:23:26,580 She was extremely proud of the record. 420 00:23:26,580 --> 00:23:28,940 This was something she did by herself. 421 00:23:28,940 --> 00:23:31,980 I imagine Frida was like, "There you go." 422 00:23:31,980 --> 00:23:35,780 You know, "I can do it without you lot." 423 00:23:35,780 --> 00:23:39,660 On a wave of solo success, Frida cut herself free 424 00:23:39,660 --> 00:23:42,580 from her old record label and moved to London. 425 00:23:43,900 --> 00:23:45,580 She wanted to reinvent herself, 426 00:23:45,580 --> 00:23:47,980 and she was kind of held back in Sweden 427 00:23:47,980 --> 00:23:50,820 because she was reminded of everything of her life before, 428 00:23:50,820 --> 00:23:53,500 of Benny, of her divorce. 429 00:23:53,500 --> 00:23:57,340 Despite there being no news of an official Abba split, 430 00:23:57,340 --> 00:24:02,420 now Frida had scored solo success, Agnetha looked to do the same, 431 00:24:02,420 --> 00:24:06,100 and Abba looked increasingly like a thing of the past. 432 00:24:06,100 --> 00:24:08,100 SYNTHPOP BEAT PLAYS 433 00:24:10,620 --> 00:24:14,500 Like Frida, Agnetha turned to a music industry giant 434 00:24:14,500 --> 00:24:16,340 to produce her solo album. 435 00:24:17,460 --> 00:24:19,380 Mike Chapman was a very famous 436 00:24:19,380 --> 00:24:21,740 and successful producer in the '80s. 437 00:24:21,740 --> 00:24:24,620 He'd worked with lots of bands, the most famous being, of course, 438 00:24:24,620 --> 00:24:27,220 Blondie with the amazing Debbie Harry, 439 00:24:27,220 --> 00:24:30,980 and he was all about hits, 440 00:24:30,980 --> 00:24:35,220 mainstream success, but retaining coolness at the same time. 441 00:24:35,220 --> 00:24:38,820 This was something she wanted to do. It was somewhere she wanted to be. 442 00:24:38,820 --> 00:24:42,660 It was with a producer who was encouraging her and challenging her 443 00:24:42,660 --> 00:24:45,060 and pushing her voice in slightly different directions 444 00:24:45,060 --> 00:24:47,260 than perhaps Benny and Bjorn had been doing, 445 00:24:47,260 --> 00:24:49,460 so it was a very happy atmosphere for her. 446 00:24:49,460 --> 00:24:53,100 Keen to get away from her reputation as the forlorn-looking one 447 00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:55,540 who sang the sad Abba songs, 448 00:24:55,540 --> 00:24:58,060 Agnetha plumped for an upbeat album 449 00:24:58,060 --> 00:25:00,060 filled with feel-good numbers 450 00:25:00,060 --> 00:25:03,020 like the album's biggest hit, The Heat Is On. 451 00:25:04,900 --> 00:25:06,780 TRILLING: # Tropical summer 452 00:25:06,780 --> 00:25:08,420 # Balmy day 453 00:25:08,420 --> 00:25:10,660 # Sit around, you haven't much to say 454 00:25:10,660 --> 00:25:12,340 # Cos the heat is on... # 455 00:25:12,340 --> 00:25:14,540 Wrap Your Arms Around Me was a very positive 456 00:25:14,540 --> 00:25:18,460 summer kind of album with a lot of romanticism in it. 457 00:25:21,500 --> 00:25:25,940 Agnetha, who had never been a fan of interviews during the Abba years, 458 00:25:25,940 --> 00:25:31,140 was now having to brave the cameras and promote her album alone. 459 00:25:31,140 --> 00:25:33,500 It was something she knew she had to do 460 00:25:33,500 --> 00:25:35,700 rather than something she wanted to do. 461 00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:38,700 Despite - or because of, maybe - her beauty, 462 00:25:38,700 --> 00:25:41,820 there was a nervousness about just being seen 463 00:25:41,820 --> 00:25:44,300 as being the face, 464 00:25:44,300 --> 00:25:48,500 rather than being a serious musician and a serious professional. 465 00:25:48,500 --> 00:25:50,900 This wasn't helped when she suffered 466 00:25:50,900 --> 00:25:56,260 this excruciating interview on BBC Breakfast Time. 467 00:25:56,260 --> 00:25:58,660 Here to promote the record and there's an album coming out later 468 00:25:58,660 --> 00:26:00,060 in the month which is called...? 469 00:26:00,060 --> 00:26:02,620 Yeah, the album comes the last of May 470 00:26:02,620 --> 00:26:05,780 and it's called Wrap Your Arms Around Me. 471 00:26:05,780 --> 00:26:08,180 I might! THEY LAUGH 472 00:26:08,180 --> 00:26:09,700 Well, tell me, why are you Swedes 473 00:26:09,700 --> 00:26:12,340 all universally so infuriatingly beautiful? 474 00:26:12,340 --> 00:26:13,980 A friend of mine calls you clones. 475 00:26:13,980 --> 00:26:16,300 He says every time you see a Swedish woman or know you're going 476 00:26:16,300 --> 00:26:18,220 to meet one, you know she's going to be beautiful. 477 00:26:18,220 --> 00:26:21,460 The constant focus on her physicality, her beauty, 478 00:26:21,460 --> 00:26:25,460 her sexiness was extremely destructive for Agnetha. 479 00:26:25,460 --> 00:26:29,700 It hurt her sense of confidence as an artist. 480 00:26:29,700 --> 00:26:32,460 And when asked about the future of Abba, 481 00:26:32,460 --> 00:26:34,900 Agnetha appeared optimistic. 482 00:26:34,900 --> 00:26:37,460 Frida's working for herself and I'm working for myself, 483 00:26:37,460 --> 00:26:41,300 but we still try to keep the group together. 484 00:26:41,300 --> 00:26:44,700 But within a couple of years, Agnetha and Frida would make 485 00:26:44,700 --> 00:26:48,540 life decisions that would shock fans the world over 486 00:26:48,540 --> 00:26:51,300 and shatter any hopes of a reunion. 487 00:26:55,460 --> 00:26:58,900 Two years after the unofficial Abba split, 488 00:26:58,900 --> 00:27:02,260 Bjorn and Benny were devoted to their musical Chess, 489 00:27:02,260 --> 00:27:07,740 and Agnetha had released her pop solo album Wrap Your Arms Around Me. 490 00:27:07,740 --> 00:27:11,540 On the back of her successful collaboration with Phil Collins, 491 00:27:11,540 --> 00:27:14,980 Frida was confidently building her solo career 492 00:27:14,980 --> 00:27:17,100 outside Sweden and Abba. 493 00:27:21,020 --> 00:27:23,340 Determined to continue her reinvention 494 00:27:23,340 --> 00:27:25,780 as a successful solo star, 495 00:27:25,780 --> 00:27:28,700 she travelled to Paris to work with a young 496 00:27:28,700 --> 00:27:32,740 and high-flying producer, Steve Lillywhite. 497 00:27:32,740 --> 00:27:35,220 Steve Lillywhite, at that point, 498 00:27:35,220 --> 00:27:38,900 was absolutely at the top of the production tree. 499 00:27:38,900 --> 00:27:43,500 He'd worked with some really, really cutting edge kind of bands 500 00:27:43,500 --> 00:27:46,580 of the '70s. You know, worked with Ultravox 501 00:27:46,580 --> 00:27:49,580 and Siouxsie and the Banshees, the Psychedelic Furs, 502 00:27:49,580 --> 00:27:52,700 had this sort of great kind of cachet 503 00:27:52,700 --> 00:27:56,500 in that experimental and electronic music. 504 00:27:57,700 --> 00:28:00,660 Now back in the studio in a foreign land 505 00:28:00,660 --> 00:28:03,460 and with a complete new set of musicians, 506 00:28:03,460 --> 00:28:07,700 Frida was once again setting herself a huge challenge. 507 00:28:07,700 --> 00:28:10,140 She is freshening it up all over again. 508 00:28:10,140 --> 00:28:13,540 She's very experimental. She's very much at the cutting edge. 509 00:28:13,540 --> 00:28:16,260 Well, Frida was very positive about working with Steve Lillywhite, 510 00:28:16,260 --> 00:28:18,060 but everyone was very young. 511 00:28:18,060 --> 00:28:20,780 Frida was, I think, ten years older than the producer. 512 00:28:23,820 --> 00:28:28,820 Frida had a strong personal input in her new album, Shine. 513 00:28:28,820 --> 00:28:32,100 With this quirky music video for its title track, 514 00:28:32,100 --> 00:28:36,340 she projected a fresh and futuristic image of herself 515 00:28:36,340 --> 00:28:40,580 and an all-out '80s thrashing musical style. 516 00:28:40,580 --> 00:28:43,420 # You give me love, you make me shine 517 00:28:44,980 --> 00:28:48,220 # Clear in the midnight sky... # 518 00:28:48,220 --> 00:28:51,580 It's very much about punching into the '80s - 519 00:28:51,580 --> 00:28:54,140 a very aerobics-inspired choreography, 520 00:28:54,140 --> 00:28:58,220 the wardrobe is all neon, all plastic, 521 00:28:58,220 --> 00:29:00,500 lots of shoulder pads, very angular. 522 00:29:00,500 --> 00:29:02,540 SHE CHUCKLES 523 00:29:02,540 --> 00:29:04,140 # More communication 524 00:29:06,340 --> 00:29:09,820 # More communication, that's all I need... # 525 00:29:12,420 --> 00:29:14,620 Despite Frida's enthusiasm 526 00:29:14,620 --> 00:29:17,460 for an album she was extremely proud of, 527 00:29:17,460 --> 00:29:19,500 Shine flopped. 528 00:29:19,500 --> 00:29:23,540 Frida was very disappointed by it because she really felt 100% 529 00:29:23,540 --> 00:29:27,780 for this album, and she felt like she was opened up creatively. 530 00:29:27,780 --> 00:29:30,700 She probably wanted to try 531 00:29:30,700 --> 00:29:33,860 and prove the Stig Andersons of this world wrong, 532 00:29:33,860 --> 00:29:36,380 so when the album wasn't successful commercially, 533 00:29:36,380 --> 00:29:40,420 that would have knocked that confidence back quite considerably. 534 00:29:40,420 --> 00:29:43,300 It seemed like success was kind of fading away, 535 00:29:43,300 --> 00:29:44,940 so everything kind of stopped. 536 00:29:46,620 --> 00:29:49,980 Her confidence knocked and approaching 40, 537 00:29:49,980 --> 00:29:52,700 Frida quit the fast pace of London. 538 00:29:57,820 --> 00:30:00,780 In search of a new way of life, 539 00:30:00,780 --> 00:30:04,740 she headed to the tranquillity of Switzerland. 540 00:30:04,740 --> 00:30:08,220 Frida's reinvented herself multiple times in her life 541 00:30:08,220 --> 00:30:10,540 and she has a kind of driving ambition, 542 00:30:10,540 --> 00:30:14,420 so even though she endures failures and setbacks, 543 00:30:14,420 --> 00:30:18,420 she's not completely tanked by it. She simply changes direction. 544 00:30:18,420 --> 00:30:22,180 It takes a huge amount of inner strength to be able to do that. 545 00:30:25,220 --> 00:30:28,580 Back in Sweden, Agnetha was also struggling 546 00:30:28,580 --> 00:30:31,380 with the tough realities of going solo. 547 00:30:31,380 --> 00:30:34,020 An ongoing battle with the tabloid press 548 00:30:34,020 --> 00:30:36,740 made life increasingly unbearable. 549 00:30:39,780 --> 00:30:43,060 Agnetha was the honeypot 550 00:30:43,060 --> 00:30:46,420 that the flies of the Swedish tabloid press 551 00:30:46,420 --> 00:30:48,380 started to swarm around. 552 00:30:48,380 --> 00:30:51,940 Because she was always a very private and sensitive person, 553 00:30:51,940 --> 00:30:55,140 they kind of latched on that and wanted to know more. 554 00:30:55,140 --> 00:30:58,020 She was no longer protected by the Abba bubble, 555 00:30:58,020 --> 00:31:00,140 and she found it very difficult to cope with it. 556 00:31:02,340 --> 00:31:07,300 Throughout the 1980s, unpleasant and often fictitious tabloid tales 557 00:31:07,300 --> 00:31:10,620 concerning Agnetha and her private life appeared 558 00:31:10,620 --> 00:31:12,420 on an almost daily basis. 559 00:31:13,460 --> 00:31:15,660 They were linking her romantically to men 560 00:31:15,660 --> 00:31:17,620 that she wasn't involved with. 561 00:31:17,620 --> 00:31:20,500 There were stories on the front pages that she was pregnant 562 00:31:20,500 --> 00:31:24,300 when she wasn't. And then when a baby didn't appear, 563 00:31:24,300 --> 00:31:27,620 the stories were, "Agnetha has suffered a miscarriage." 564 00:31:29,860 --> 00:31:32,140 Feeling under siege from the media, 565 00:31:32,140 --> 00:31:35,180 Agnetha became increasingly reclusive, 566 00:31:35,180 --> 00:31:40,020 refusing to do any promotional work on releasing new material. 567 00:31:40,020 --> 00:31:42,980 She just didn't want to do that any more. 568 00:31:42,980 --> 00:31:44,820 I mean, there's loads of interviews you can see 569 00:31:44,820 --> 00:31:47,020 where you can see she just doesn't want to be there. 570 00:31:47,020 --> 00:31:50,420 The only recourse she had was to say, 571 00:31:50,420 --> 00:31:53,060 "No, I'm not doing your interviews." 572 00:31:53,060 --> 00:31:57,220 So she began to withdraw more and more into seclusion. 573 00:31:58,700 --> 00:32:02,300 Agnetha did have one final throw of the dice 574 00:32:02,300 --> 00:32:06,220 when, in 1988, she flew to London to promote an album 575 00:32:06,220 --> 00:32:07,980 on the Wogan chat show. 576 00:32:07,980 --> 00:32:10,180 # Let me lose you like I found you... # 577 00:32:10,180 --> 00:32:14,340 The track she chose to sing was fittingly titled The Last Time. 578 00:32:16,140 --> 00:32:18,500 # If it's the last time 579 00:32:18,500 --> 00:32:22,700 # There's no danger in the fire 580 00:32:22,700 --> 00:32:27,140 # Let it burn and take us higher 581 00:32:27,140 --> 00:32:31,020 # Let's give it one more try... # 582 00:32:31,020 --> 00:32:32,740 You kind of felt, listening to it, 583 00:32:32,740 --> 00:32:35,620 that this was a woman saying goodbye in many ways. 584 00:32:35,620 --> 00:32:39,140 She was now in her late 30s, pushing 40, 585 00:32:39,140 --> 00:32:41,860 and she didn't feel she had the motivation on her side. 586 00:32:41,860 --> 00:32:45,220 She now just wanted to be a mother 587 00:32:45,220 --> 00:32:47,620 and her pop career now was behind her. 588 00:32:47,620 --> 00:32:51,180 You obviously still want to put yourself through 589 00:32:51,180 --> 00:32:53,260 the rigmarole of pop music. 590 00:32:53,260 --> 00:32:56,380 Yes. Well, it just happens, you know? 591 00:32:56,380 --> 00:32:58,900 It's hard to, um...get away from it. 592 00:32:58,900 --> 00:33:02,100 It would definitely have been one of those moments where she didn't 593 00:33:02,100 --> 00:33:04,900 really want to be there. Her heart wasn't in it anymore. 594 00:33:04,900 --> 00:33:07,500 But one would have imagined that you would have bought yourself 595 00:33:07,500 --> 00:33:09,820 the little house on the fjord and just... 596 00:33:09,820 --> 00:33:11,580 Well, I have! ..retired. Oh, you have? 597 00:33:13,820 --> 00:33:17,380 This was indeed Agnetha's last time. 598 00:33:17,380 --> 00:33:19,860 Shortly after her BBC appearance, 599 00:33:19,860 --> 00:33:23,020 she moved to the quiet island of Ekero, 600 00:33:23,020 --> 00:33:26,300 45 minutes outside Stockholm. 601 00:33:26,300 --> 00:33:28,900 After two decades in the limelight, 602 00:33:28,900 --> 00:33:33,220 an exhausted Agnetha was about to disappear from the public eye. 603 00:33:37,100 --> 00:33:40,180 I thought, "I have to have a little break now, and... 604 00:33:41,660 --> 00:33:43,980 "Oh, I've done so much, 605 00:33:43,980 --> 00:33:47,420 "I want to be with my children and in my home 606 00:33:47,420 --> 00:33:50,060 "and with the horses and with my dogs." 607 00:33:53,540 --> 00:33:57,900 Whilst Agnetha and Frida withdrew from music and public life, 608 00:33:57,900 --> 00:34:01,420 the experience of creating the musical Chess 609 00:34:01,420 --> 00:34:03,580 had Benny keen to do more. 610 00:34:04,820 --> 00:34:07,020 Teaming up with Bjorn once again, 611 00:34:07,020 --> 00:34:10,020 he embarked on an epic Swedish project 612 00:34:10,020 --> 00:34:13,780 that reconnected him with his folk music roots - 613 00:34:13,780 --> 00:34:19,180 a musical based on a classic Swedish novel, Kristina Fran Duvemala, 614 00:34:19,180 --> 00:34:24,020 with themes close to Benny's heart, as he revealed in this interview. 615 00:34:24,020 --> 00:34:29,900 It's dealing with the fact that over a million Swedish people 616 00:34:29,900 --> 00:34:34,860 emigrated to America in the 19th century. 617 00:34:34,860 --> 00:34:36,860 OPERATIC SINGING IN SWEDISH 618 00:34:41,340 --> 00:34:45,180 Kristina Fran Duvemala couldn't be further away 619 00:34:45,180 --> 00:34:50,060 from the glitter and the gloss and the spandex of the Abba years. 620 00:34:50,060 --> 00:34:54,260 You've got a very strong story about survivalism, migration, 621 00:34:54,260 --> 00:34:56,500 the Swedish national character. 622 00:34:56,500 --> 00:34:59,140 There's some beautiful songs in that. 623 00:34:59,140 --> 00:35:01,940 It just showed the versatility, doesn't it, 624 00:35:01,940 --> 00:35:04,180 of what they can do and can write? 625 00:35:04,180 --> 00:35:07,180 What they've been able to do over the years 626 00:35:07,180 --> 00:35:10,740 is move their style 627 00:35:10,740 --> 00:35:15,300 from that immediate three-minute pop song, 628 00:35:15,300 --> 00:35:18,820 and they've been able to broaden it out. 629 00:35:18,820 --> 00:35:21,980 I think that anything that Benny and Bjorn seem to do is magic. 630 00:35:23,740 --> 00:35:26,300 Kristina Fran Duvemala was a critical 631 00:35:26,300 --> 00:35:28,820 and commercial hit in Sweden, 632 00:35:28,820 --> 00:35:31,620 attracting an audience of more than a million people 633 00:35:31,620 --> 00:35:35,820 and elevating Bjorn and Benny to national treasure status. 634 00:35:40,780 --> 00:35:45,020 Meanwhile, over 1,000 miles away in Switzerland, 635 00:35:45,020 --> 00:35:49,060 Frida's life was about to mirror that of a fairy tale 636 00:35:49,060 --> 00:35:52,340 when she met and fell in love with a German prince. 637 00:35:54,300 --> 00:35:56,300 FRIDA IN SWEDISH: 638 00:36:06,260 --> 00:36:09,940 She looked more relaxed and more at ease with herself. 639 00:36:09,940 --> 00:36:11,900 She had overcome a lot of insecurities. 640 00:36:11,900 --> 00:36:15,900 She has a more classy look now. She's not so rock attitude anymore. 641 00:36:17,940 --> 00:36:24,220 The romance with Prince Ruzzo Ruess resulted in a marriage in 1992. 642 00:36:24,220 --> 00:36:27,700 Frida's personal journey has been completely fascinating. 643 00:36:27,700 --> 00:36:31,580 She went from being the orphaned child 644 00:36:31,580 --> 00:36:33,340 to a global superstar 645 00:36:33,340 --> 00:36:35,620 to stepping away from fame, 646 00:36:35,620 --> 00:36:39,340 and then marrying into German royalty 647 00:36:39,340 --> 00:36:42,380 on top of being musical royalty herself. 648 00:36:44,140 --> 00:36:48,220 With Frida living a new exclusive life in Switzerland, 649 00:36:48,220 --> 00:36:52,020 Agnetha retreating to her remote Swedish island, 650 00:36:52,020 --> 00:36:56,300 and Benny and Bjorn dedicating themselves to their Swedish musical, 651 00:36:56,300 --> 00:36:59,300 by the early '90s, the former Abba members 652 00:36:59,300 --> 00:37:01,660 couldn't have been further apart. 653 00:37:02,820 --> 00:37:06,380 But an unexpected revival was about to send the world 654 00:37:06,380 --> 00:37:08,580 Abba-crazy once again. 655 00:37:08,580 --> 00:37:13,180 # I've been cheated by you since I don't know when... # 656 00:37:13,180 --> 00:37:16,580 I really fell in love with them when I took my daughter 657 00:37:16,580 --> 00:37:19,500 and my nieces to see Mamma Mia! the musical. 658 00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:20,700 # Whoa-oh 659 00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:21,860 # Mamma mia. # 660 00:37:28,780 --> 00:37:30,860 June 1992... 661 00:37:30,860 --> 00:37:34,820 This is definitely one of the most surreal nights of my life. 662 00:37:34,820 --> 00:37:37,500 ..appearing in front of a huge crowd, 663 00:37:37,500 --> 00:37:41,060 Benny and Bjorn were invited on stage by U2 664 00:37:41,060 --> 00:37:43,100 to play a stripped-down version 665 00:37:43,100 --> 00:37:46,300 of their absolute classic hit Dancing Queen. 666 00:37:46,300 --> 00:37:47,700 Bjorn and Benny. 667 00:37:49,700 --> 00:37:52,420 # Friday night and the lights are low 668 00:37:54,260 --> 00:37:56,900 # Looking out for a place to go 669 00:37:58,700 --> 00:38:00,860 # Where they play the right music 670 00:38:00,860 --> 00:38:02,620 # Ready to sort of sing 671 00:38:02,620 --> 00:38:04,820 # You're in the mood for a dance... # 672 00:38:04,820 --> 00:38:07,660 Ten years after the band's unofficial split, 673 00:38:07,660 --> 00:38:10,660 they were reconnecting with Abba's music. 674 00:38:10,660 --> 00:38:14,140 There was a moment when Benny and Bjorn changed their mind. 675 00:38:14,140 --> 00:38:16,420 Instead of running away from Abba, 676 00:38:16,420 --> 00:38:18,700 in the '90s, they decided to turn round 677 00:38:18,700 --> 00:38:20,860 and run straight back towards Abba. 678 00:38:20,860 --> 00:38:23,980 # Having the time of your life 679 00:38:23,980 --> 00:38:27,060 # Oh, see that girl 680 00:38:27,060 --> 00:38:28,740 # Watch that scene 681 00:38:28,740 --> 00:38:31,140 # Digging the dancing queen 682 00:38:31,140 --> 00:38:36,460 # Oh-oh. # 683 00:38:36,460 --> 00:38:37,980 And again! 684 00:38:37,980 --> 00:38:41,940 # If you change your mind, I'm the first in line 685 00:38:41,940 --> 00:38:43,460 # Honey, I'm still free... # 686 00:38:43,460 --> 00:38:46,220 After being ignored for almost a decade, 687 00:38:46,220 --> 00:38:49,900 the music of Abba captured the zeitgeist once again. 688 00:38:50,980 --> 00:38:55,260 There was absolutely a need and a desire for optimism. 689 00:38:55,260 --> 00:39:00,660 The '90s went back into having this no-holds barred 690 00:39:00,660 --> 00:39:03,380 front and centre pop music, 691 00:39:03,380 --> 00:39:07,460 so it was really a great breeding ground decade 692 00:39:07,460 --> 00:39:10,260 for the shiny pop that Abba had been making 693 00:39:10,260 --> 00:39:12,180 to come back into vogue again. 694 00:39:12,180 --> 00:39:17,740 In 1992, British band Erasure paid tribute to their favourite group 695 00:39:17,740 --> 00:39:21,220 and released an EP of Abba covers. 696 00:39:21,220 --> 00:39:24,260 ANDY BELL: I mean, I just had a passion, I really had a passion 697 00:39:24,260 --> 00:39:27,700 for them and I just thought... I thought they were undersung. 698 00:39:27,700 --> 00:39:30,660 These songs were so kind of impressed on me, 699 00:39:30,660 --> 00:39:33,140 I had to do them. We just had to do them. 700 00:39:33,140 --> 00:39:35,900 I had to do them live, had to do them just to get them 701 00:39:35,900 --> 00:39:37,660 out of my system, the songs. 702 00:39:37,660 --> 00:39:41,020 # You wanted to leave me there, afraid of a love affair 703 00:39:41,020 --> 00:39:43,180 # But I think you know 704 00:39:45,140 --> 00:39:47,180 # That I can't let go... # 705 00:39:47,180 --> 00:39:52,420 Abba-esque gave Erasure their first number one single in the UK chart 706 00:39:52,420 --> 00:39:56,380 and bolstered Abba's renewed popularity. 707 00:39:56,380 --> 00:39:59,660 Something was bubbling under in the zeitgeist, 708 00:39:59,660 --> 00:40:03,060 and we just happened to put this thing out at the same time, 709 00:40:03,060 --> 00:40:04,940 and I'm really glad that I was part of it. 710 00:40:07,220 --> 00:40:10,620 Abba's record label jumped on the revival wagon 711 00:40:10,620 --> 00:40:13,300 and that same year released Abba Gold - 712 00:40:13,300 --> 00:40:16,340 a compilation of all their greatest hits 713 00:40:16,340 --> 00:40:18,260 that cemented a legacy 714 00:40:18,260 --> 00:40:21,340 that Bjorn and Benny could never have dreamt of. 715 00:40:21,340 --> 00:40:25,620 # I've been cheated by you since I don't know... # 716 00:40:25,620 --> 00:40:28,420 The songs are just classic pop songs, 717 00:40:28,420 --> 00:40:31,940 and a classic good pop song just won't die. 718 00:40:31,940 --> 00:40:37,380 The album sold over five million copies within a year of release. 719 00:40:37,380 --> 00:40:40,260 We were in the height of the CD era then, 720 00:40:40,260 --> 00:40:44,220 so this was racked up in every supermarket, 721 00:40:44,220 --> 00:40:46,540 record shop, anywhere that sold music. 722 00:40:46,540 --> 00:40:51,300 So that was the opportunity, for women in particular, 723 00:40:51,300 --> 00:40:54,780 to be able to kind of grab the CD off the shelf, 724 00:40:54,780 --> 00:40:57,700 play it, dance around the kitchen with their kids, 725 00:40:57,700 --> 00:41:01,940 introduce those songs to that up-and-coming generation as well. 726 00:41:01,940 --> 00:41:04,140 I don't even know if it has been out of the charts 727 00:41:04,140 --> 00:41:07,180 in the 30 years since it was released. 728 00:41:07,180 --> 00:41:09,740 That really was the catalyst of their reappraisal. 729 00:41:09,740 --> 00:41:12,380 After Abba Gold, it was like... 730 00:41:14,020 --> 00:41:15,460 ..full speed ahead. 731 00:41:19,220 --> 00:41:22,860 Whilst the world was once again going Abba mad, 732 00:41:22,860 --> 00:41:26,580 Frida, now happy and settled in her private life 733 00:41:26,580 --> 00:41:28,620 and encouraged by her prince, 734 00:41:28,620 --> 00:41:32,900 made an unexpected return to Sweden to record new music. 735 00:41:32,900 --> 00:41:35,380 Sek-sek-sek. 736 00:41:39,540 --> 00:41:42,660 She wanted to do an album that meant something to her, 737 00:41:42,660 --> 00:41:46,460 which would go a little bit further than just doing an album. 738 00:41:46,460 --> 00:41:50,060 But having spent a decade away from the studio, 739 00:41:50,060 --> 00:41:52,580 the return was challenging. 740 00:42:14,380 --> 00:42:16,580 Frida's efforts paid off 741 00:42:16,580 --> 00:42:21,260 and resulted in this elegant single, Aven En Blomma. 742 00:42:21,260 --> 00:42:26,180 # I djupa andetag 743 00:42:26,180 --> 00:42:30,380 # En manniskas karlek och lag... # 744 00:42:30,380 --> 00:42:32,420 The song was about inner growth, 745 00:42:32,420 --> 00:42:35,060 the evolvement of herself as a person, as a woman, 746 00:42:35,060 --> 00:42:36,860 the journey she had been on, 747 00:42:36,860 --> 00:42:40,860 and also nature, and how important it was to care about nature. 748 00:42:40,860 --> 00:42:45,100 The album was a massive hit in Sweden, 749 00:42:45,100 --> 00:42:48,380 and on a personal level, Frida was deeply satisfied 750 00:42:48,380 --> 00:42:52,580 with the compositions and the themes it explored. 751 00:42:52,580 --> 00:42:54,340 BELL TOLLS 752 00:42:58,180 --> 00:43:02,740 Meanwhile, as the resurging interest in Abba's music grew, 753 00:43:02,740 --> 00:43:05,620 in London, Bjorn and Benny were in talks 754 00:43:05,620 --> 00:43:09,460 about an exciting new project - 755 00:43:09,460 --> 00:43:12,380 a musical built around their greatest hits 756 00:43:12,380 --> 00:43:14,540 that would introduce Abba 757 00:43:14,540 --> 00:43:16,700 to an even wider audience. 758 00:43:16,700 --> 00:43:18,420 I really discovered them 759 00:43:18,420 --> 00:43:21,380 when I took my daughter and my nieces 760 00:43:21,380 --> 00:43:23,340 to see Mamma Mia! the musical. 761 00:43:23,340 --> 00:43:25,820 Not thinking I was going to... Sorry, boys! 762 00:43:25,820 --> 00:43:28,660 Not thinking I was going to enjoy it at all. 763 00:43:28,660 --> 00:43:31,540 And, erm... I was just blown away by it. 764 00:43:31,540 --> 00:43:36,620 The musical was the brainchild of theatre producer Judy Craymer, 765 00:43:36,620 --> 00:43:39,580 who came up with the idea while working on Chess 766 00:43:39,580 --> 00:43:42,180 with Bjorn and Benny a decade earlier. 767 00:43:42,180 --> 00:43:44,180 It was one woman's obsession with Abba 768 00:43:44,180 --> 00:43:46,860 that actually got this musical off the ground. 769 00:43:46,860 --> 00:43:49,060 I mean, she lives Abba, I think, Judy. 770 00:43:49,060 --> 00:43:52,380 I know Judy Craymer had approached Benny and Bjorn 771 00:43:52,380 --> 00:43:56,020 many, many times over, saying, "Please let me do this." 772 00:43:56,020 --> 00:43:58,980 And they said no, for starters. 773 00:43:58,980 --> 00:44:02,020 But on a warm summer evening in 1995, 774 00:44:02,020 --> 00:44:05,260 after enjoying Grease on the West End stage, 775 00:44:05,260 --> 00:44:07,660 Bjorn had a change of heart 776 00:44:07,660 --> 00:44:11,740 and saw the potential in Judy Craymer's idea. 777 00:44:11,740 --> 00:44:14,580 And then they said, "Yes, come up with a good script." 778 00:44:14,580 --> 00:44:18,460 Now under pressure to come up with a good story, 779 00:44:18,460 --> 00:44:22,220 Judy Craymer turned to playwright Catherine Johnson. 780 00:44:26,940 --> 00:44:30,860 The plot of Mamma Mia was hashed out at Paddington Station, 781 00:44:30,860 --> 00:44:34,940 probably over a congealed sandwich and a cold coffee, 782 00:44:34,940 --> 00:44:38,500 by Judy Craymer and her collaborator Catherine Johnson, 783 00:44:38,500 --> 00:44:41,700 who was a traditional, very respected, 784 00:44:41,700 --> 00:44:44,020 old-school theatre lady. 785 00:44:44,020 --> 00:44:45,620 So it started spinning, 786 00:44:45,620 --> 00:44:49,460 and suddenly Catherine had this vision. 787 00:44:49,460 --> 00:44:51,660 What about a young girl? 788 00:44:51,660 --> 00:44:54,540 She doesn't know who her father is and she's getting married. 789 00:44:54,540 --> 00:44:57,460 And she invites three guys who could be her dad 790 00:44:57,460 --> 00:44:59,660 based on her mum's diary, 791 00:44:59,660 --> 00:45:02,420 and they will show up at this lovely Grecian event. 792 00:45:02,420 --> 00:45:05,740 And then Judy just said to her, "You're not taking the train, 793 00:45:05,740 --> 00:45:08,020 "you're sitting down, now we're working." 794 00:45:08,020 --> 00:45:11,420 It sounds so crackers, but it's a very strong idea, 795 00:45:11,420 --> 00:45:14,220 cos it's all about love and family and belonging, 796 00:45:14,220 --> 00:45:16,260 and that's what Abba's about. 797 00:45:16,260 --> 00:45:21,540 Judy then turned to celebrated theatre director Phyllida Lloyd 798 00:45:21,540 --> 00:45:24,740 to complete the all-female creative team. 799 00:45:24,740 --> 00:45:27,380 I loved it that there was a team of women. 800 00:45:27,380 --> 00:45:33,380 It just makes it feel...special and empowering in many ways. 801 00:45:33,380 --> 00:45:36,700 When word got out that production was under way, 802 00:45:36,700 --> 00:45:40,340 the project made headlines all over the world, 803 00:45:40,340 --> 00:45:44,020 leaving Agnetha and Frida to hear about it 804 00:45:44,020 --> 00:45:46,700 at the same time as everybody else. 805 00:45:47,900 --> 00:45:50,780 When Frida heard about the musical Mamma Mia, 806 00:45:50,780 --> 00:45:52,700 through the media, 807 00:45:52,700 --> 00:45:56,420 it was reported that the musical would be about the story of Abba. 808 00:45:56,420 --> 00:45:59,220 She immediately sent off an angry fax to Bjorn, 809 00:45:59,220 --> 00:46:03,180 saying like, "What the hell do you think you're doing?" 810 00:46:03,180 --> 00:46:06,740 But once again, the tabloid press was speculating 811 00:46:06,740 --> 00:46:08,260 and had got it wrong. 812 00:46:08,260 --> 00:46:11,460 Bjorn, of course, replied that it wasn't the case at all, 813 00:46:11,460 --> 00:46:13,500 it was a complete different story, 814 00:46:13,500 --> 00:46:16,460 after which she eventually became one of its investors. 815 00:46:20,980 --> 00:46:25,740 When the show opened in London on the 6th of April 1999, 816 00:46:25,740 --> 00:46:27,740 it was the talk of the town. 817 00:46:27,740 --> 00:46:30,660 If you weren't at the premiere, at the first night, 818 00:46:30,660 --> 00:46:33,980 I mean, forget it, you're just in social Siberia. 819 00:46:33,980 --> 00:46:37,460 The musical's launch coincided beautifully 820 00:46:37,460 --> 00:46:39,420 with the 25th anniversary 821 00:46:39,420 --> 00:46:43,940 of Abba winning the Eurovision Song Contest with Waterloo. 822 00:46:43,940 --> 00:46:47,420 The audience went wild. 823 00:46:47,420 --> 00:46:51,860 # I was cheated by you and I think you know when... # 824 00:46:51,860 --> 00:46:55,060 I don't think I've ever experienced something like that. 825 00:46:55,060 --> 00:46:57,340 It was like, I don't know, a mashup 826 00:46:57,340 --> 00:47:01,380 between a late-night disco and a theatre. 827 00:47:01,380 --> 00:47:02,660 It was amazing. 828 00:47:04,340 --> 00:47:05,980 Oh, it was magic. 829 00:47:05,980 --> 00:47:08,740 People were chuckling, and then people were laughing, 830 00:47:08,740 --> 00:47:10,700 and then people were dancing and laughing. 831 00:47:10,700 --> 00:47:14,140 # There's a fire within my soul... # 832 00:47:14,140 --> 00:47:18,940 Mamma Mia became one of the highest grossing musicals of all time, 833 00:47:18,940 --> 00:47:22,900 generating another huge wave of Abba fans. 834 00:47:22,900 --> 00:47:26,380 The music was just so infectious 835 00:47:26,380 --> 00:47:29,260 and so uplifting and so moving 836 00:47:29,260 --> 00:47:31,420 that I immediately bought the album. 837 00:47:31,420 --> 00:47:34,380 # You are the dancing queen 838 00:47:34,380 --> 00:47:41,180 # Young and sweet, only 17... # 839 00:47:41,180 --> 00:47:44,820 It makes a journey out of the music 840 00:47:44,820 --> 00:47:48,060 in a way that was incredibly appealing 841 00:47:48,060 --> 00:47:51,500 to people that had missed out on Abba first time round. 842 00:47:51,500 --> 00:47:56,260 # You can dance, you can jive... # 843 00:47:56,260 --> 00:47:58,900 A lot of people in my age 844 00:47:58,900 --> 00:48:02,300 who weren't really, like, super, super into pop, 845 00:48:02,300 --> 00:48:07,020 that was their first introduction to Abba songs. 846 00:48:11,580 --> 00:48:14,620 With a tidal wave of new Abba fans, 847 00:48:14,620 --> 00:48:19,860 the world media became obsessed with a possible Abba reunion. 848 00:48:19,860 --> 00:48:22,500 Are you surprised that Abba keeps coming back and back and back, 849 00:48:22,500 --> 00:48:24,740 are you surprised? Yeah... No, we never came back. 850 00:48:24,740 --> 00:48:28,500 That's the good thing about Abba. No, we never reunited. 851 00:48:29,980 --> 00:48:31,820 But on that opening night, 852 00:48:31,820 --> 00:48:35,820 while Bjorn and Benny were heralding an Abba revival, 853 00:48:35,820 --> 00:48:40,060 Agnetha and Frida were nowhere to be seen. 854 00:48:40,060 --> 00:48:44,780 The great Abba revival of the 1990s came along 855 00:48:44,780 --> 00:48:47,020 at the wrong time for Agnetha. 856 00:48:47,020 --> 00:48:48,780 This was a very dark period, 857 00:48:48,780 --> 00:48:51,180 probably the worst period in her life. 858 00:48:54,140 --> 00:48:58,540 # I was cheated by you and I think you know when 859 00:49:00,860 --> 00:49:04,500 # So I made up my mind it must come to an end... # 860 00:49:04,500 --> 00:49:09,220 The glitzy opening of the most anticipated musical in decades, 861 00:49:09,220 --> 00:49:11,740 Mamma Mia. 862 00:49:11,740 --> 00:49:15,980 # I don't know how But I suddenly lose control... # 863 00:49:15,980 --> 00:49:20,500 An outright success for songwriters Benny and Bjorn. 864 00:49:20,500 --> 00:49:24,740 But that night, there were two conspicuous absentees. 865 00:49:28,180 --> 00:49:31,300 We don't know yet because they haven't been here yet. 866 00:49:31,300 --> 00:49:35,020 They should come because they are as much a part of this as we are. 867 00:49:40,660 --> 00:49:43,300 700 miles away in Switzerland, 868 00:49:43,300 --> 00:49:46,860 Frida had found inner peace, close to nature, 869 00:49:46,860 --> 00:49:49,980 with her beloved husband, Prince Ruzzo, 870 00:49:49,980 --> 00:49:52,980 and she was slowly reconnecting with music. 871 00:49:58,060 --> 00:50:01,220 But on a dark winter's day in 1998, 872 00:50:01,220 --> 00:50:03,300 her happiness was shattered 873 00:50:03,300 --> 00:50:08,420 when she received the tragic news no mother wants to hear. 874 00:50:08,420 --> 00:50:11,380 She lost her daughter after a car accident, 875 00:50:11,380 --> 00:50:14,860 which was a tragic event which struck very hard. 876 00:50:14,860 --> 00:50:19,100 This tragedy left Frida in a state of shock for many years, 877 00:50:19,100 --> 00:50:22,500 as she revealed in this intimate 2016 interview. 878 00:50:39,020 --> 00:50:41,620 While dealing with this unbearable grief, 879 00:50:41,620 --> 00:50:44,660 a year later, tragedy struck again. 880 00:50:44,660 --> 00:50:49,180 Her beloved husband Ruzzo passed away at the age of 49, 881 00:50:49,180 --> 00:50:51,580 leaving a huge void in her life, 882 00:50:51,580 --> 00:50:54,380 as she reflected in the same interview. 883 00:51:11,220 --> 00:51:13,620 Plunged into deep grief, 884 00:51:13,620 --> 00:51:17,980 Frida once again stepped away from music and public life. 885 00:51:23,100 --> 00:51:28,900 In her island seclusion, Agnetha was also deep in grief - 886 00:51:28,900 --> 00:51:32,860 after the tragic loss of her mother, who took her own life, 887 00:51:32,860 --> 00:51:35,500 and the death of her father soon after. 888 00:51:37,420 --> 00:51:40,020 This was a very dark period for her, 889 00:51:40,020 --> 00:51:42,620 probably the worst period in her life, 890 00:51:42,620 --> 00:51:45,460 and she just needed to be left alone. 891 00:51:45,460 --> 00:51:47,500 She needed time to process 892 00:51:47,500 --> 00:51:50,340 all of these traumatic things that had happened to her. 893 00:51:50,340 --> 00:51:51,900 But it made her vulnerable. 894 00:51:51,900 --> 00:51:54,620 It made her vulnerable to being targeted - 895 00:51:54,620 --> 00:51:59,220 not just physically and practically, but also emotionally. 896 00:51:59,220 --> 00:52:01,820 And someone did indeed take advantage 897 00:52:01,820 --> 00:52:05,900 of Agnetha's emotional vulnerability. 898 00:52:05,900 --> 00:52:10,900 She had somehow become involved with a crazed stalker fan 899 00:52:10,900 --> 00:52:12,540 called Gert van de Graaf. 900 00:52:12,540 --> 00:52:16,780 He was a forklift driver, he was Dutch, 901 00:52:16,780 --> 00:52:21,140 he was obsessive, he made no secret of it. 902 00:52:21,140 --> 00:52:23,060 He found out where Agnetha lived, 903 00:52:23,060 --> 00:52:28,020 and eventually he bought a ramshackle little wooden house 904 00:52:28,020 --> 00:52:31,700 about a mile from Agnetha's house. 905 00:52:31,700 --> 00:52:36,460 And every day he would post a letter in her letterbox. 906 00:52:37,940 --> 00:52:40,460 She had reached a point in her life 907 00:52:40,460 --> 00:52:42,980 where I think she was just very fragile, 908 00:52:42,980 --> 00:52:46,540 and the idea that there was somebody out there living close to her 909 00:52:46,540 --> 00:52:49,700 that was interested in her, that wanted to get to know her, 910 00:52:49,700 --> 00:52:53,620 I think she felt... slightly worn down by him, 911 00:52:53,620 --> 00:52:57,340 but was willing to see why did he want to know her, 912 00:52:57,340 --> 00:53:00,300 so she opened up her life to him. 913 00:53:00,300 --> 00:53:03,460 And they had some kind of twisted romance 914 00:53:03,460 --> 00:53:07,100 that she broke away from after a short period of time, 915 00:53:07,100 --> 00:53:10,900 but he continued to... stalk and harass her 916 00:53:10,900 --> 00:53:13,900 with thousands of phone calls and letters. 917 00:53:15,180 --> 00:53:18,820 The media label her as a recluse. 918 00:53:18,820 --> 00:53:20,740 What they didn't understand 919 00:53:20,740 --> 00:53:23,900 was that she was too frightened to leave her house. 920 00:53:25,860 --> 00:53:28,380 After years of legal battles, 921 00:53:28,380 --> 00:53:31,340 Gert was eventually given a restraining order 922 00:53:31,340 --> 00:53:33,940 and was banned from entering Sweden. 923 00:53:35,780 --> 00:53:39,020 With Van der Graaf safely out of the country 924 00:53:39,020 --> 00:53:42,820 and keen to put the whole distressing affair behind her, 925 00:53:42,820 --> 00:53:46,700 Agnetha felt ready to return to her true passion. 926 00:53:48,260 --> 00:53:53,100 Agnetha was free to rebuild her fragile emotional health, 927 00:53:53,100 --> 00:53:55,100 and one of the ways she started to do that 928 00:53:55,100 --> 00:53:57,140 was listening to music again, 929 00:53:57,140 --> 00:54:01,540 and it was the music that she had fallen in love with as a teenager. 930 00:54:01,540 --> 00:54:05,060 It was the music of Connie Francis and Dusty Springfield. 931 00:54:05,060 --> 00:54:07,420 And now, 40 years later, 932 00:54:07,420 --> 00:54:10,860 they inspired her to be a singer again. 933 00:54:10,860 --> 00:54:14,780 # And feed you winter fruits and summer wine... # 934 00:54:14,780 --> 00:54:16,980 After 17 years of silence, 935 00:54:16,980 --> 00:54:20,860 Agnetha returned to music with a 1960s swagger 936 00:54:20,860 --> 00:54:23,660 and this intimate version of Cilla Black's 937 00:54:23,660 --> 00:54:27,060 If I Thought You'd Ever Change Your Mind. 938 00:54:30,940 --> 00:54:33,340 # I will bring you happiness 939 00:54:33,340 --> 00:54:37,420 # Wrapped up in a box and tied with a yellow bow... # 940 00:54:37,420 --> 00:54:40,380 It was amazing to see Agnetha coming back, 941 00:54:40,380 --> 00:54:44,780 being able to re-present herself now as a more mature woman. 942 00:54:44,780 --> 00:54:49,020 I'm a big admirer of her voice, the way she sings. 943 00:54:49,020 --> 00:54:53,820 I think she's one of the best Swedish vocalists ever. 944 00:54:53,820 --> 00:54:57,860 Despite Agnetha keeping public appearances to a minimum, 945 00:54:57,860 --> 00:55:03,540 fans and the media began speculating about an Abba reunion. 946 00:55:03,540 --> 00:55:06,020 If she's now interested in making music again, 947 00:55:06,020 --> 00:55:07,660 is this going to be the key 948 00:55:07,660 --> 00:55:10,740 that unlocks the great Abba reunion? 949 00:55:11,940 --> 00:55:14,140 But instead of a reunion, 950 00:55:14,140 --> 00:55:17,140 Benny and Bjorn preferred to focus their efforts 951 00:55:17,140 --> 00:55:21,060 on developing the hugely successful Mamma Mia franchise 952 00:55:21,060 --> 00:55:23,300 and took it to another level. 953 00:55:26,340 --> 00:55:28,180 Well, my agent rang me up. 954 00:55:28,180 --> 00:55:30,500 I can remember I was standing in the kitchen 955 00:55:30,500 --> 00:55:33,900 and him saying, "They're going to make a film of Mamma Mia." 956 00:55:33,900 --> 00:55:37,580 And they said, "Would you like to be Meryl Streep's friend in it?" 957 00:55:37,580 --> 00:55:42,380 And I said, "Yes, of course I would, I love that musical, yes!" 958 00:55:45,380 --> 00:55:50,500 Based on the stage show, the movie attracted a stellar cast. 959 00:55:50,500 --> 00:55:53,220 Mamma Mia is pure escapism. 960 00:55:53,220 --> 00:55:55,420 It's a vision of the world 961 00:55:55,420 --> 00:55:57,940 where everyone is literally singing and dancing all the time. 962 00:55:57,940 --> 00:56:00,580 When the cast met for the first time 963 00:56:00,580 --> 00:56:03,900 to record the soundtrack at Air Studios in London, 964 00:56:03,900 --> 00:56:08,220 they were faced with the musical complexity of Abba songs. 965 00:56:08,220 --> 00:56:09,900 It was a bit of a baptism of fire. 966 00:56:09,900 --> 00:56:12,420 First of all, you meet Meryl Streep, and I've never met her, 967 00:56:12,420 --> 00:56:14,660 then you're taken through and there are the Abba boys. 968 00:56:14,660 --> 00:56:17,940 Benny's on the piano, he says, "Let's sing Dancing Queen." 969 00:56:17,940 --> 00:56:20,740 God, we've just got in, I've only rehearsed a couple of days! 970 00:56:20,740 --> 00:56:23,500 So we're all around the piano doing that but it was fine. 971 00:56:23,500 --> 00:56:26,860 To ensure the Abba magic was kept in the soundtrack, 972 00:56:26,860 --> 00:56:30,100 Benny and Bjorn attended most recording sessions 973 00:56:30,100 --> 00:56:33,380 with their trusted sound engineer, Bernard Lohr. 974 00:56:33,380 --> 00:56:36,220 They are actors, not professional singers, 975 00:56:36,220 --> 00:56:41,020 so I had to work a little bit more in editing and fixing. 976 00:56:42,940 --> 00:56:44,420 They want it right. 977 00:56:44,420 --> 00:56:47,060 It's their music, it's their baby, isn't it? 978 00:56:47,060 --> 00:56:49,900 So you felt a huge responsibility as well, 979 00:56:49,900 --> 00:56:52,500 much more responsibility cos they were there. 980 00:56:52,500 --> 00:56:56,420 But they gave me confidence - not the opposite, you'd think... 981 00:56:56,420 --> 00:56:59,900 But they didn't, they certainly gave me confidence, yeah. 982 00:56:59,900 --> 00:57:02,620 The confidence instilled in the actors shone through 983 00:57:02,620 --> 00:57:06,420 when Julie Walters, Meryl Streep and Christine Baranski 984 00:57:06,420 --> 00:57:11,180 performed this comedic take on Dancing Queen. 985 00:57:11,180 --> 00:57:14,900 # You are the dancing queen 986 00:57:14,900 --> 00:57:19,620 # Young and sweet, only 17... # 987 00:57:22,340 --> 00:57:25,620 If bearing the weight of Abba's musical legacy 988 00:57:25,620 --> 00:57:30,300 wasn't daunting enough, the actors also had to dance. 989 00:57:30,300 --> 00:57:33,580 This proved a struggle for the male leads. 990 00:57:34,860 --> 00:57:36,660 They're not great fans of it, really, 991 00:57:36,660 --> 00:57:38,420 the singing and dancing, I don't think. 992 00:57:38,420 --> 00:57:39,700 I can remember Colin's face, 993 00:57:39,700 --> 00:57:42,260 you know, absolutely terrified at the thought of this dancing. 994 00:57:42,260 --> 00:57:44,500 # Take a chance on me... # 995 00:57:44,500 --> 00:57:47,860 Julie Walters' dance skills were also put to the test 996 00:57:47,860 --> 00:57:50,580 when she performed Take A Chance On Me 997 00:57:50,580 --> 00:57:54,580 in front of the entire cast in the film's wedding-party climax. 998 00:57:54,580 --> 00:57:59,660 # If you're all alone when the pretty birds have flown 999 00:57:59,660 --> 00:58:03,260 # Honey, I'm still free, take a chance on me... # 1000 00:58:03,260 --> 00:58:06,460 The choreographer said to me, "Do what you like down the table." 1001 00:58:06,460 --> 00:58:08,660 I said, "Oh, OK, then," so I didn't have to rehearse, 1002 00:58:08,660 --> 00:58:10,820 I didn't want to rehearse it in front of everybody, 1003 00:58:10,820 --> 00:58:11,820 which was a big mistake. 1004 00:58:11,820 --> 00:58:14,900 So come the day, all of the dancers and people are there, 1005 00:58:14,900 --> 00:58:17,860 all of the cast are down... and I have to go down that table. 1006 00:58:17,860 --> 00:58:19,740 I had a coughing fit in sort of anxiety 1007 00:58:19,740 --> 00:58:23,540 and had to have a brown paper bag... like this! 1008 00:58:23,540 --> 00:58:25,300 But it was great fun after that. 1009 00:58:25,300 --> 00:58:28,580 # Take a chance on me 1010 00:58:30,020 --> 00:58:32,780 # Take a chance on me... # 1011 00:58:32,780 --> 00:58:35,140 The songs just didn't get boring, ever. 1012 00:58:35,140 --> 00:58:38,380 When you're filming a scene, they go on for days, 1013 00:58:38,380 --> 00:58:40,180 and they still didn't get boring, 1014 00:58:40,180 --> 00:58:42,740 still made you want to, "Yeah, here we come again!" 1015 00:58:44,020 --> 00:58:45,820 Mamma Mia Was to become 1016 00:58:45,820 --> 00:58:49,900 one of the highest grossing musical movies of all time. 1017 00:58:49,900 --> 00:58:53,940 It's just a really intelligent, huge move 1018 00:58:53,940 --> 00:58:56,580 for keeping that Abba legacy alive. 1019 00:58:56,580 --> 00:59:00,260 It's like a sort of cyclical thing that can happen across the decades. 1020 00:59:00,260 --> 00:59:05,580 And when the film premiered in Stockholm in July 2008, 1021 00:59:05,580 --> 00:59:08,620 Abba fans were in for a treat. 1022 00:59:08,620 --> 00:59:11,700 Bjorn...and Benny 1023 00:59:11,700 --> 00:59:14,860 were joined for the first time in 22 years 1024 00:59:14,860 --> 00:59:17,060 by Frida and Agnetha, 1025 00:59:17,060 --> 00:59:20,420 who'd stepped out of the shadows to surprise the cast. 1026 00:59:20,420 --> 00:59:22,060 The photographers were screaming out 1027 00:59:22,060 --> 00:59:24,220 for them just to be the four of them, 1028 00:59:24,220 --> 00:59:25,620 but they always refused, 1029 00:59:25,620 --> 00:59:28,740 because they felt that if there was a photograph of the four of them, 1030 00:59:28,740 --> 00:59:31,500 that would be the photograph that would be in the press 1031 00:59:31,500 --> 00:59:34,940 and this wasn't about Abba, this was about Mamma Mia. 1032 00:59:34,940 --> 00:59:37,140 It may have been about Mamma Mia, 1033 00:59:37,140 --> 00:59:40,540 but seeing them together had fans starting to think 1034 00:59:40,540 --> 00:59:44,340 what was, until then, the unthinkable. 1035 00:59:44,340 --> 00:59:47,100 That whole kind of excitement about the... 1036 00:59:47,100 --> 00:59:51,900 "What if? Could it really happen?" definitely came back in, 1037 00:59:51,900 --> 00:59:55,020 and people started thinking, "Well, you know, never say never. 1038 00:59:55,020 --> 00:59:57,230 "Keep our fingers crossed, maybe it will." 1039 01:00:00,620 --> 01:00:02,900 London 2013. 1040 01:00:02,900 --> 01:00:06,340 At the annual Children in Need Rocks charity event, 1041 01:00:06,340 --> 01:00:11,540 Gary Barlow performs a duet that drives Abba fans into a frenzy. 1042 01:00:11,540 --> 01:00:16,380 This young lady's not been on stage for over 25 years. 1043 01:00:16,380 --> 01:00:19,900 Gary Barlow had pulled off the impossible 1044 01:00:19,900 --> 01:00:22,900 as he coaxed an anxious Agnetha back on stage 1045 01:00:22,900 --> 01:00:26,580 for this powerful performance of I Should Have Followed You Home. 1046 01:00:28,020 --> 01:00:33,220 # I can't believe it's really you 1047 01:00:35,460 --> 01:00:41,500 # You still look the way you used to... # 1048 01:00:41,500 --> 01:00:44,620 It's obvious that Agnetha is nervous. 1049 01:00:44,620 --> 01:00:48,060 She's looking at Gary Barlow for reassurance, 1050 01:00:48,060 --> 01:00:52,260 and then that stone-cold professionalism kicks in. 1051 01:00:52,260 --> 01:00:54,500 Her voice is amazing. 1052 01:00:54,500 --> 01:00:56,780 It's like listening to running silver. 1053 01:00:56,780 --> 01:01:01,740 # Maybe if you want to 1054 01:01:01,740 --> 01:01:06,340 # I'll see you soon again... # 1055 01:01:06,340 --> 01:01:08,700 Knowing what she's been through, 1056 01:01:08,700 --> 01:01:12,380 I think a lot of fans just want her to be happy, 1057 01:01:12,380 --> 01:01:14,980 and seeing her on stage again, 1058 01:01:14,980 --> 01:01:17,100 she genuinely seemed happy. 1059 01:01:18,380 --> 01:01:21,460 I'm so glad to be here tonight. 1060 01:01:21,460 --> 01:01:23,740 Thank you, Gary. CHEERING 1061 01:01:23,740 --> 01:01:26,180 Thank you, everyone. 1062 01:01:26,180 --> 01:01:28,900 Her confidence now growing, 1063 01:01:28,900 --> 01:01:32,580 Agnetha embraced the Mamma Mia musical phenomenon 1064 01:01:32,580 --> 01:01:35,620 and started attending promotional events. 1065 01:01:35,620 --> 01:01:38,060 In coming back out into public life, 1066 01:01:38,060 --> 01:01:41,380 Agnetha is leaving the door open for the Abba reunion. 1067 01:01:41,380 --> 01:01:45,020 Because let's not forget, they never broke up. 1068 01:01:45,020 --> 01:01:47,180 You know, putting something on standby 1069 01:01:47,180 --> 01:01:49,020 is not the same as unplugging it. 1070 01:01:49,020 --> 01:01:52,340 A couple of years later, at a private event, 1071 01:01:52,340 --> 01:01:57,300 Agnetha went back on stage, this time with Frida. 1072 01:01:57,300 --> 01:01:59,260 And that night the two of them 1073 01:01:59,260 --> 01:02:02,260 truly brought the dream of an Abba reunion 1074 01:02:02,260 --> 01:02:03,820 one step closer. 1075 01:02:03,820 --> 01:02:08,020 We would love to dedicate this song to you 1076 01:02:08,020 --> 01:02:11,620 from us, Agnetha and myself. 1077 01:02:11,620 --> 01:02:17,060 2016 was the 50th anniversary of the day that Benny and Bjorn met. 1078 01:02:17,060 --> 01:02:19,380 Agnetha and Frida, naturally, were invited, 1079 01:02:19,380 --> 01:02:21,060 but what we didn't think happen 1080 01:02:21,060 --> 01:02:23,460 was that they would get on stage and sing a song. 1081 01:02:23,460 --> 01:02:27,660 # We can face it together 1082 01:02:27,660 --> 01:02:34,540 # The way old friends do... # 1083 01:02:34,540 --> 01:02:37,380 The only record of that special moment 1084 01:02:37,380 --> 01:02:40,940 is this mobile-phone footage of Frida and Agnetha 1085 01:02:40,940 --> 01:02:45,860 reunited in song for the first time in over 30 years. 1086 01:02:45,860 --> 01:02:51,220 # The way old friends do... # 1087 01:02:51,220 --> 01:02:54,140 It was totally right that they were on stage. 1088 01:02:54,140 --> 01:02:56,500 that was great, and also the fact 1089 01:02:56,500 --> 01:02:59,140 that they were singing The Way Old Friends Do, 1090 01:02:59,140 --> 01:03:01,980 because that's what it is - they are old friends. 1091 01:03:01,980 --> 01:03:06,860 # The way old friends do... # 1092 01:03:06,860 --> 01:03:09,540 With friendships rekindled, 1093 01:03:09,540 --> 01:03:12,820 in 2018, it finally happened. 1094 01:03:12,820 --> 01:03:15,700 Abba announced they were getting back together 1095 01:03:15,700 --> 01:03:17,500 for a very special show. 1096 01:03:17,500 --> 01:03:19,260 When the news came out, 1097 01:03:19,260 --> 01:03:21,620 everyone just had this sort of frisson of excitement 1098 01:03:21,620 --> 01:03:24,140 thinking, "Does this mean they're going to tour again? 1099 01:03:24,140 --> 01:03:26,340 "Is there an album? What's going to be happening?" 1100 01:03:26,340 --> 01:03:30,620 But it wasn't the return that everyone was expecting. 1101 01:03:30,620 --> 01:03:32,980 I have a vision of the future. 1102 01:03:34,700 --> 01:03:36,500 And in that future, 1103 01:03:36,500 --> 01:03:39,780 Abba were to return not as themselves - 1104 01:03:39,780 --> 01:03:42,100 but as Abbatars. 1105 01:03:42,100 --> 01:03:45,340 Using motion-capture technology, 1106 01:03:45,340 --> 01:03:49,380 an extraordinary series of concerts were to see Abba return 1107 01:03:49,380 --> 01:03:55,900 as digitally animated characters based on their 1979 younger selves. 1108 01:03:55,900 --> 01:03:58,460 It's something in their make-up and their psyche 1109 01:03:58,460 --> 01:04:00,860 that they're always kind of ahead of the game, 1110 01:04:00,860 --> 01:04:03,060 and nobody else has done this, 1111 01:04:03,060 --> 01:04:05,820 have they, before, a virtual tour? Brilliant. 1112 01:04:07,380 --> 01:04:09,300 And for Abba fans, 1113 01:04:09,300 --> 01:04:12,300 the dream was about to get even better. 1114 01:04:12,300 --> 01:04:15,460 Whilst working on the Abbatar project, 1115 01:04:15,460 --> 01:04:19,820 the urge to make new music became irresistible. 1116 01:04:19,820 --> 01:04:22,740 For the first time in almost four decades, 1117 01:04:22,740 --> 01:04:26,660 Abba recorded a new song behind closed doors. 1118 01:04:26,660 --> 01:04:30,660 I think they kept it a secret to see if it will work. 1119 01:04:30,660 --> 01:04:35,380 I mean, to come back after 40 years, it gives you insecurity maybe. 1120 01:04:35,380 --> 01:04:37,740 Is this the right thing? 1121 01:04:37,740 --> 01:04:41,260 But to hear the voices of Frida and Agnetha is fantastic. 1122 01:04:41,260 --> 01:04:46,380 # I still have faith in you 1123 01:04:46,380 --> 01:04:49,100 # I see it now... # 1124 01:04:49,100 --> 01:04:52,500 You couldn't have chosen a more perfect Abba comeback song 1125 01:04:52,500 --> 01:04:54,900 than I Still Have Faith In You. 1126 01:04:54,900 --> 01:04:57,220 It's like a love song to themselves 1127 01:04:57,220 --> 01:04:59,660 and to history and to time. 1128 01:04:59,660 --> 01:05:03,860 # There was a union... # 1129 01:05:03,860 --> 01:05:07,100 I see a sense of reconciliation 1130 01:05:07,100 --> 01:05:10,900 and an increased comfort between the members of the band. 1131 01:05:10,900 --> 01:05:13,980 That song, to me, was a beautiful story 1132 01:05:13,980 --> 01:05:16,860 of how they can look back at all their memories 1133 01:05:16,860 --> 01:05:19,260 that they have shared and experienced 1134 01:05:19,260 --> 01:05:23,020 and still be excited to create more. 1135 01:05:23,020 --> 01:05:24,700 I think that's very inspiring. 1136 01:05:24,700 --> 01:05:30,020 # I still have faith in you... # 1137 01:05:30,020 --> 01:05:33,860 Since going their separate ways 40 years ago, 1138 01:05:33,860 --> 01:05:36,980 the four members of Abba have experienced 1139 01:05:36,980 --> 01:05:43,100 a roller-coaster of triumphs, adversity and tragedy. 1140 01:05:43,100 --> 01:05:46,820 They went through pain and trials and tribulations and suffering, 1141 01:05:46,820 --> 01:05:48,780 and yet they're still friends. 1142 01:05:48,780 --> 01:05:52,660 And underpinning those four tumultuous decades 1143 01:05:52,660 --> 01:05:58,700 is a musical legacy that has grown beyond all expectations. 1144 01:05:58,700 --> 01:06:01,860 My God, that is an incredible tribute. 1145 01:06:01,860 --> 01:06:04,380 Incredible to think that somebody's had the career, 1146 01:06:04,380 --> 01:06:08,660 and here we are 40 years later, and it's still as prevalent. 1147 01:06:08,660 --> 01:06:11,780 I don't know what kind of artist I would have been, 1148 01:06:11,780 --> 01:06:14,060 or if I even would have been here right now, 1149 01:06:14,060 --> 01:06:15,260 if it wasn't for Abba. 1150 01:06:15,260 --> 01:06:17,260 It's a gift, they've got the gift. 1151 01:06:21,340 --> 01:06:24,900 It kind of goes on and on and on, it gets to people. 1152 01:06:26,460 --> 01:06:27,700 It's magic. 95976

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