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Were we communicating
with somebody earlier?
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Can you do that again
by setting off our equipment
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or turning on a flashlight?
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- Hey!
- Are you kidding me?
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- My god.
- Oh, my god.
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Is this place a portal to hell?
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That's bones.
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Serious?
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He believes
that you're demonic...
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So this should
really piss you off.
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This is day one of our
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iron island museum investigation
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here in buffalo, New York,
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I believe this place
is called iron island
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because it's totally
surrounded by train tracks.
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Yeah.
So it's kind of like its own little island.
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I'm kind of intrigued
about this museum.
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I think just because
this building's had
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so many different faces.
Yeah, for sure.
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The information that we have...
Yeah.
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It's, you know, built
in the early 1880s,
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then it was a church
until about 1940.
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- Mm-hmm.
- And then it was a funeral home. - Yeah.
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And now it's a museum.
It's had a few evolutions.
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And the current owners,
Marge and Linda,
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have had some really
weird experiences
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since they've taken over.
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It's a lot of residual stuff.
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So you'd hear sounds.
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There's been a lot of shadows
being seen,
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movement of objects
like furniture.
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Linda's mom, Marge,
is terrified.
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She believes that there is
a demonic presence there.
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I guess she had a really
harrowing experience...
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- Mm-hmm.
- Where she saw something.
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And they've had
other investigators
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come in these last few years
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that have also had
negative experiences,
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including people thinking
that there's some portals there.
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So let's go check out
some portals.
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Let's check it out.
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Snowy.
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- Definitely a little different.
- Yeah.
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- From when it was built.
- Yeah.
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There are a lot of things
that could be causing
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the hauntings, from things
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that have occurred
in the building
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to the fact
that this place was a church,
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it was a funeral parlor.
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Like, it's had a lot
of significant spiritual faces,
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if you will.
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So there's something
to be said about that.
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Let's do this.
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It's ominous, though.
That's the feeling.
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That's that's what
I'm vibing on right now.
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- Hi.
- I'm Marge.
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I'm Jack.
Nice to meet you, Marge.
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Nice to meet you.
How you doing?
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Hi, I'm Linda.
Hi. Jack. Nice to meet you.
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- Hi. Katrina.
- Come on in.
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Thanks for coming out
to iron island.
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- Oh, thanks for having US.
- Yeah.
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Well, we started a small
storefront down the street
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with the museum back in 1998,
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and we just figured
we'd have a neighborhood museum.
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And then the funeral director
who owned this funeral home
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at the time
liked what we were doing,
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and he called me up
out of the blue
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and asked if we would
accept the building.
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He was going to donate it to US.
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And I was like, wow, you know,
no one does that.
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- Yes, really.
- So we moved down here
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in August of 2000.
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And so we've been here
ever since.
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And we promote the neighborhood,
the railroad,
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the military,
everything that surrounds US.
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And hauntings started happening
to different people
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that would come in, or different
volunteers that would come in.
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It took US almost like
seven years
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before we finally said
something to each other. Hmm.
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- Hmm.
- Really?
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- Yeah.
- So you guys were all
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having these experiences,
but never talked
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to each other about it.
Exactly.
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Do you think that some
of these spirits are people who,
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their bodies were here during...
That being a funeral home?
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I do. We have the records
of a lot of people
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who were waked out of here.
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A lot of them were children.
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What is it that you guys
have experienced
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or other people have experienced
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make you think that
something negative is here?
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The shadow man,
and some dark voices
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we picked up
that tell US to get out.
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One day I was in here,
and I looked to my right.
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There was a very tall figure
of a man all in black.
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And his eyes
were like glowing coals.
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I couldn't make out
any other features on his face,
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but just from his eyes
I could tell he was angry.
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I was quite frightened.
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We've heard a lot of reports
that there's portals here.
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I remember there
was a psychic here,
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and they're the ones that said
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there were
two portals in this building.
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What do you guys think it is?
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What do you think is happening?
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And why, ultimately?
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Well, I was hoping
you guys would tell US why.
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I do think
if people come in here
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with the wrong intentions,
it brings out some negative
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and dark that might be in here
just hiding away someplace.
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So, like attracts like.
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Attracts it. Exactly.
That's my feeling. Okay.
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So can we get a tour
of the museum,
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- start feeling out the space?
- Okay.
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When we first started thinking
the building was haunted,
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we had a group in here,
they were down from Toronto,
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and there were two psychic women
with them.
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In this room, they kept
telling US that there was
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a little boy here
who was six years old.
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- Yeah.
- And his name is Tommy.
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So the original funeral director
left an entire box of records
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from people who died
from 1958 to 1969.
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We ended up finding
a little boy named Tommy
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that had died at the age of six.
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Oh, so you actually know
who Tommy is?
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We know who Tommy is.
This is Tommy.
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And he was waked in this room
in this communion outfit.
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So we started calling
this the kids' room
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because they started picking up
different things
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with the children in here.
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Why would they come here?
Because they were waked here,
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do you think, or...
I think they come here
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because they come here to play.
Mm.
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I think this is a place they
feel comfortable and protected.
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And, you know,
a lot of people don't like
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to talk about children
that have passed away.
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But my feeling
is that they they, um,
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they were living.
Yeah.
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And people need to know
that they were around.
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Yeah.
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And if there is something
dark here, evil here,
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I certainly don't want it
bothering the kids.
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So is that kind of your
main mission in all of this?
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Yes. Oh, yes, definitely.
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But another thing
that happens in here,
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there was a group of our
friends who were in this room,
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and they were investigating,
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and there was a ball
laying on the floor,
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and the ball starts
moving by itself.
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- No one's around it and it moves.
- Hmm.
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And we were able to pick it up
on our surveillance camera.
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- Oh, well.
- So it's pretty cool.
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I think we should go into
the military room now
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and talk about that.
Okay. Okay, great.
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When we took over the building,
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there were 24 cremator
remains left in the basement.
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Hmm.
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We wrote down the names
and dates of death
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and found there were
seven veterans in our basement
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and they are all displayed
right here.
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- They were world war I, world war ii,
Vietnam. - Jeez.
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We have in the past
picked up gunfire in this room.
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- Interesting.
- We've heard
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marching around the chairs
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like it's marches
in a circle around you.
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Another thing that has happened
in this room,
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we were here one night.
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We had a friend come over
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and we were sitting around
in these chairs.
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And she said to US, "the whole
back of the room just lit up."
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And none of US saw it.
It was pitch black in here.
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And we were like,
"what do you mean, it lit up?"
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She goes,
"it just lit up."
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So we went to our
surveillance camera.
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At the time she said that,
you see a white blob.
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So that was pretty cool.
We do have that also.
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- Okay. So, um...
- Chapel room?
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Want to go up to the chapel room?
Let's go to the chapel.
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This is where I was kneeling
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when I saw that little girl
in the hallway.
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She was right over there
beyond the door.
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I could make out her plaid skirt
and her shoes and socks,
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but I couldn't make out
her features.
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She had her hands
behind her back.
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I thought she had a knife
or something behind her back
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and was gonna come at me.
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I thought she was gonna kill me.
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Marge, I think, is gifted.
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I think she has
some kind of psychic ability,
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mediumship, what have you,
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because she seems to have had
a great deal of experiences
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witnessing
full-body apparitions.
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There was a very tall figure
of a man, and his eyes
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were like glowing coals.
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I saw that little girl
in the hallway.
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I thought
she was going to kill me.
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Ranging from children,
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adults, to things that she
perceives to be demonic.
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Do you want to go down
first, Katrina?
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- Oh, sure, I can.
- Just be careful.
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When we moved in,
there was a room here,
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and that's where 24 cans
of cremated remains were.
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Wow.
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Did they use this space
to keep bodies?
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Or to embalm?
I'm not really sure,
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but they did use
that over there to embalm.
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Right here? That sink was what they
used to embalm the bodies, yes.
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- That's the embalming sink?
- Ew.
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What happens down here?
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There's an angry man down here.
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People have heard growling and
different things in this area.
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And we also picked up
a picture by someone on a tour,
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where the man stuck his head
out of that furnace.
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Interesting.
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Five different groups of women
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investigators were here,
all at different times.
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And for some reason, they go to this wall.
Marge. Marge.
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Hmm. That was weird.
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That was just right where
you stood.
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Yeah.
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My pack's back here.
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My pack will set that off.
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That's not your pack.
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So that's weird.
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It's really going for it.
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That's not your pack.
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That's weird.
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But are you sure there's no
wires sticking out somewhere?
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I'm not seeing them.
I mean, I'm just seeing...
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There's this wire,
but that's an electrical...
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Can you go all the way up
and see what it does?
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Huh.
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It's weird because the milligals
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aren't even spiking.
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Just this buzzing...
Yeah, it's the rem pod.
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And the interesting thing,
to get it to change the colors,
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look how close you got to get.
Like...
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Yeah. You got to basically be touching it.
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Something was breaking
that field.
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- Absolutely. That's significant.
- It's a little odd.
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The basement was weird.
The Mel meter was, like,
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legit picking stuff up
left and right.
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I don't know what
to make of that.
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I mean, it was as if something
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was physically touching
the antenna.
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So I want to spend
a bit of time in the basement
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during the night investigation
for sure.
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So Patrick is someone
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who regularly investigates
this location.
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He is a enthusiast
in all things paranormal
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and has had a number
of experiences here.
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Well, so now you're
from buffalo?
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I'm from buffalo.
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I met Linda... I came to this
museum first time about 2007.
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And shortly after that,
sort of my group
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became the in-house paranormal
investigation team here.
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And I believe that
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there's been negative haunts
in this building.
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What do you think's
brought them in?
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They did rent to group one time,
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an overnight investigation.
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At one point during the night,
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the group put cloaks,
on hooded cloaks,
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and they performed
some sort of a ceremony
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in a circle with candles.
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The next day, one of the
volunteers were here cleaning up
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- and they found melted wax on the
carpet. - Mm.
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I believe something
was opened here.
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So you believe there's portals here? I do.
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How many do you think there are?
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I was told by a psychic
there is at least one
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down in the hallway
by Linda's office.
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Okay.
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Probably one of the most
active areas in the museum.
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- Has anybody ever been hurt?
- Yes.
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What happened?
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A gentleman who was on a tour
came up from the basement
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and he actually had three
scratches across his forehead.
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That was pretty bad.
I actually have a picture of it
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- if you guys would like to see it.
- Sure, yeah.
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Was he wearing a hat
at the time or anything?
283
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He was not wearing a hat at all.
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- Wow.
- Hmm.
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When you believe something's
negative and it's targeting
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somebody you care about,
I mean, all bets are off.
287
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Right. So we came in here
and we started provoking.
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And at one point I said,
"my team and I
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will be back here
for an overnight.
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That's when we'll throw
your ass out of here."
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We got a response back
where it said,
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"I'll get you then."
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That was an evp?
That was an evp. Yes.
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Here it is.
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I'm gonna be back here
in four or five days
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for a sleepover with my team.
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Come see US then, too,
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'cause that's the night we'll
throw your ass out of here.
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What room were you in
when that happened?
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We were in the hallway right where...
The hallway.
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I believe one of the main
portals or windows are.
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Do you know any other
witnesses we can talk to
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to kind of help
get our bearings straight?
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The volunteers who work here,
I'd love for you guys
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to talk to everybody like,
you know, all of them.
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Yeah.
Yeah, I'd love that.
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Cool.
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I think our meeting with Patrick
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was really interesting.
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This isn't a recent thing,
this negativity.
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It's been here for a while.
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He just sees it spike
from time to time.
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Why the spikes in negativity?
Is it the people?
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Is it investigations
that come through here?
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I'm kind of at a loss right now
for why that could be.
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Day one investigation, from
the evidence that I've seen,
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this place
has something going on.
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There's still more questions
than answers.
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So we're going to meet
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with a bunch
of other witnesses tomorrow.
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Fingers crossed,
find some good stuff.
322
00:14:35,408 --> 00:14:37,687
Today is day two
of our investigation.
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We learned a lot yesterday,
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and I'm excited because
there's so much objective
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evidence to come out of here.
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And right now, Jack and I
are gonna go meet
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with a group of volunteers
that spend a lot of time here.
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00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:48,564
- Hey, guys.
- How's it going, guys?
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Hi, Patrick. Good to see you
this morning.
330
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Good to see you again.
331
00:14:51,057 --> 00:14:52,435
And I'm hoping to figure out
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the who, whats, wheres,
whens, and whys,
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especially the hot spots,
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so it can help our
investigation.
335
00:14:56,930 --> 00:14:58,975
- Okay.
- Paranormal board meeting.
336
00:14:58,999 --> 00:15:00,443
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
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So with a raise of hands,
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do you believe
the museum is haunted?
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Okay.
340
00:15:09,743 --> 00:15:11,988
Do you think there's anything
dangerous in the museum?
341
00:15:12,012 --> 00:15:13,656
I do maintenance here,
and I don't like
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00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:14,924
to come in here alone.
343
00:15:14,948 --> 00:15:17,593
I mean, I hear... I feel danger.
344
00:15:17,617 --> 00:15:19,295
And you can feel a heaviness
in the room
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when there's something
dark around.
346
00:15:20,820 --> 00:15:22,565
Absolutely.
We were in the chapel room...
347
00:15:22,589 --> 00:15:23,900
Right.
348
00:15:23,924 --> 00:15:26,702
And peg actually spotted
that shadow person.
349
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Patrick was standing
in the middle of the room
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and he was telling US
about his experience.
351
00:15:31,031 --> 00:15:34,110
I just looked away for a second,
and when I looked back at him,
352
00:15:34,134 --> 00:15:36,279
the shadow man was standing
right behind him.
353
00:15:36,303 --> 00:15:40,316
Hmm. And he went to turn
around and he was gone.
354
00:15:40,340 --> 00:15:44,220
- And Nancy saw a little child.
- I was here for a funeral.
355
00:15:44,244 --> 00:15:45,922
A friend of mine's dad
had passed.
356
00:15:45,946 --> 00:15:48,557
And he she wanted me
to stay in the hall.
357
00:15:48,581 --> 00:15:50,326
And that's when I saw
the little girl.
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Can you describe her?
359
00:15:51,851 --> 00:15:55,698
She was probably about 7.
Blonde hair with pigtails.
360
00:15:55,722 --> 00:15:57,133
She motioned me
to come with her.
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00:15:57,157 --> 00:15:58,868
I got the feeling
that she wanted me
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00:15:58,892 --> 00:16:01,570
to come and play with her.
Oh.
363
00:16:01,594 --> 00:16:04,907
When my mom came out
from the viewing, she asked me,
364
00:16:04,931 --> 00:16:06,342
"who are you talking to?"
Yeah.
365
00:16:06,366 --> 00:16:09,512
I said, "the little girl," which
would have been behind her.
366
00:16:09,536 --> 00:16:13,049
When she turned to look,
that girl was gone.
367
00:16:13,073 --> 00:16:15,618
What's really interesting
to me about Nancy's story
368
00:16:15,642 --> 00:16:18,487
is it backs up
Marge's experience,
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00:16:18,511 --> 00:16:21,123
and it backs up a lot of things
that people have talked about,
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00:16:21,147 --> 00:16:25,161
that there are multiple
children spirits here.
371
00:16:25,185 --> 00:16:29,065
Do you believe that there is
a portal in the museum?
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00:16:29,089 --> 00:16:30,633
Do you think it's more because
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there's a concentrated amount
of activity in certain spots?
374
00:16:33,994 --> 00:16:35,938
Yes. That's what you
would define as a portal?
375
00:16:35,962 --> 00:16:38,541
My asked a question
down the military room,
376
00:16:38,565 --> 00:16:40,609
"are there any soldiers here?"
377
00:16:40,633 --> 00:16:43,012
And immediately down by the
barber chair closet down there,
378
00:16:43,036 --> 00:16:46,949
there was chatter where we just
heard like a man and woman.
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00:16:46,973 --> 00:16:48,317
And right where
he's talking about
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00:16:48,341 --> 00:16:52,088
is where the one "reported"
portal is located...
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00:16:52,112 --> 00:16:53,656
It was identified
by a psychic, right?
382
00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,925
- That's right.
- Right. Okay.
383
00:16:55,949 --> 00:16:58,060
You know, "portals" is
kind of a funny word
384
00:16:58,084 --> 00:16:59,595
because it sometimes
385
00:16:59,619 --> 00:17:02,431
means something different
to everybody.
386
00:17:02,455 --> 00:17:05,801
Mostly they describe it
as a place in the building
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00:17:05,825 --> 00:17:08,871
where there's a concentrated
amount of activity,
388
00:17:08,895 --> 00:17:11,974
regardless of whether or not
it's an actual opening.
389
00:17:11,998 --> 00:17:14,110
It seems like there are spots
in here
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00:17:14,134 --> 00:17:18,948
that just have
an unusual amount of activity,
391
00:17:18,972 --> 00:17:20,405
even for a haunted building.
392
00:17:24,277 --> 00:17:26,989
When you're sat around
a table with five other people
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00:17:27,013 --> 00:17:30,359
who have very similar
experiences, you're like,
394
00:17:30,383 --> 00:17:32,261
okay, cool,
there's something here.
395
00:17:32,285 --> 00:17:33,763
Now it's time to just set up
396
00:17:33,787 --> 00:17:36,732
and get stuck into the night
investigation sooner than later.
397
00:17:36,756 --> 00:17:38,701
If the spirit's here,
step up and play ball.
398
00:17:38,725 --> 00:17:40,191
We're gonna have a wild night.
399
00:17:50,770 --> 00:17:52,715
These kind of locations
are tough
400
00:17:52,739 --> 00:17:54,884
because there's
a lot going on here.
401
00:17:54,908 --> 00:17:56,185
So, we're gonna bring
in Cindy kaza.
402
00:17:56,209 --> 00:17:58,087
She's a psychic we often use.
403
00:17:58,111 --> 00:18:02,758
She'll come in, sweep, give her
psychic opinion on what's here,
404
00:18:02,782 --> 00:18:06,095
what she's encountering,
to kind of help navigate US.
405
00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,697
I feel like there's probably
a few spirits here.
406
00:18:08,721 --> 00:18:11,000
So, I just want to maybe start
with automatic writing
407
00:18:11,024 --> 00:18:13,636
to see what comes through first,
and then go from there.
408
00:18:13,660 --> 00:18:15,393
Okay.
409
00:18:19,265 --> 00:18:21,043
Automatic writing is something
410
00:18:21,067 --> 00:18:23,779
that some psychics
and mediums do.
411
00:18:23,803 --> 00:18:28,751
Essentially, what Cindy does is
she is getting information
412
00:18:28,775 --> 00:18:31,487
from spirits,
from other entities,
413
00:18:31,511 --> 00:18:34,290
and they are telling her
basically what to write,
414
00:18:34,314 --> 00:18:35,558
but she's not even aware of it.
415
00:18:35,582 --> 00:18:39,595
So, her hand is
just automatically writing.
416
00:18:39,619 --> 00:18:42,965
Okay. So, I keep feeling
like there's a lot of activity
417
00:18:42,989 --> 00:18:44,967
when there's children
running around in here, too,
418
00:18:44,991 --> 00:18:46,335
everywhere I'm sensing.
419
00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,604
Especially, there's
a young girl that I see,
420
00:18:48,628 --> 00:18:50,272
blonde little girl.
421
00:18:50,296 --> 00:18:54,410
Oh, she's probably about 7,
blonde hair, pigtails.
422
00:18:54,434 --> 00:18:56,779
But there's a layers, right?
There's layers of time.
423
00:18:56,803 --> 00:18:59,248
Like with this place,
it's not just one spirit.
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00:18:59,272 --> 00:19:02,251
Was this ever a church or like a...? Yes.
425
00:19:02,275 --> 00:19:04,320
Is there a basement in this place, too?
There is.
426
00:19:04,344 --> 00:19:06,789
So, something opened here,
and it's in the basement.
427
00:19:06,813 --> 00:19:08,757
I feel like
that's an entry point
428
00:19:08,781 --> 00:19:12,261
to where the spirits
are coming into this house.
429
00:19:12,285 --> 00:19:14,063
Definitely.
I need to go down there.
430
00:19:14,087 --> 00:19:15,364
You want to walk around?
431
00:19:15,388 --> 00:19:16,332
Yeah, I want to go
to the basement.
432
00:19:16,356 --> 00:19:18,656
Let's do this.
Okay.
433
00:19:28,601 --> 00:19:32,381
This room is way darker
434
00:19:32,405 --> 00:19:34,583
than what I anticipated it
to be because...
435
00:19:34,607 --> 00:19:36,152
You mean negative?
Negative.
436
00:19:36,176 --> 00:19:39,054
Here feels like
a totally different ballgame.
437
00:19:39,078 --> 00:19:40,711
It feels dark.
438
00:19:43,483 --> 00:19:47,696
And I really, really believe
that the homeowner here
439
00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,934
is more influenced by this
than she wants to acknowledge.
440
00:19:51,958 --> 00:19:54,737
She's hiding some of her
experiences that she's having
441
00:19:54,761 --> 00:19:57,606
because she thinks people
are going to think she's crazy
442
00:19:57,630 --> 00:20:02,144
if she talks about
what's truly happening to her.
443
00:20:02,168 --> 00:20:03,646
She doesn't talk about
having nightmares?
444
00:20:03,670 --> 00:20:05,214
No, not that we know of.
445
00:20:05,238 --> 00:20:06,448
You're gonna
have to ask her that.
446
00:20:06,472 --> 00:20:11,153
She's similar to me,
and she's very psychic.
447
00:20:11,177 --> 00:20:13,956
It feeds off our fear.
448
00:20:13,980 --> 00:20:15,624
So, she has to be careful.
449
00:20:15,648 --> 00:20:17,693
She a bit of a trigger?
Yes.
450
00:20:17,717 --> 00:20:20,563
She's a trigger for it
because she's naturally open.
451
00:20:20,587 --> 00:20:22,598
She's sensitive.
So, it just feeds it.
452
00:20:22,622 --> 00:20:26,168
It was created when
people were doing rituals here.
453
00:20:26,192 --> 00:20:28,904
The group put cloaks on,
hooded cloaks,
454
00:20:28,928 --> 00:20:32,775
and they perform
some sort of a ceremony
455
00:20:32,799 --> 00:20:34,777
in a circle with candles.
456
00:20:34,801 --> 00:20:37,913
Opening the portal,
which is also here.
457
00:20:37,937 --> 00:20:39,915
You think it's down here?
I think it's down here.
458
00:20:39,939 --> 00:20:41,617
Where would you say it is?
459
00:20:41,641 --> 00:20:44,242
Actually, it's a little bit
more back here.
460
00:20:47,247 --> 00:20:49,213
And I just want to be
right by the furnace.
461
00:20:52,685 --> 00:20:55,164
The thing that makes me
uncomfortable is the rituals
462
00:20:55,188 --> 00:21:00,169
that I was seeing and the people
that opened up the dark side.
463
00:21:00,193 --> 00:21:02,571
It was deliberate.
Yeah.
464
00:21:02,595 --> 00:21:04,273
Yeah.
465
00:21:04,297 --> 00:21:06,297
Alright, well, let's move
to a different space.
466
00:21:16,209 --> 00:21:18,687
Does anybody see a little boy
wandering around here?
467
00:21:18,711 --> 00:21:21,390
He moves balls. He rolls things.
Like, he likes to play.
468
00:21:21,414 --> 00:21:22,625
Yes.
469
00:21:22,649 --> 00:21:23,959
The way that he comes to me now
470
00:21:23,983 --> 00:21:25,761
is that he's saying,
"I'm not a problem.
471
00:21:25,785 --> 00:21:28,597
Don't blame me."
That's how he's making me feel.
472
00:21:28,621 --> 00:21:30,466
So, how many spirits
do you think...
473
00:21:30,490 --> 00:21:32,201
Like, intelligent
human spirits are here?
474
00:21:32,225 --> 00:21:34,370
Several.
I couldn't give you a number.
475
00:21:34,394 --> 00:21:36,338
It changes by the day,
I would think,
476
00:21:36,362 --> 00:21:37,539
because there's a portal.
477
00:21:37,563 --> 00:21:40,509
Do you think capturing
evidence here
478
00:21:40,533 --> 00:21:42,711
would depend on
who you bring in,
479
00:21:42,735 --> 00:21:44,079
as far as living people?
480
00:21:44,103 --> 00:21:45,748
It definitely could.
481
00:21:45,772 --> 00:21:47,449
I think if you bring
the owner of the house
482
00:21:47,473 --> 00:21:50,119
into your investigation
of the owner of the space,
483
00:21:50,143 --> 00:21:52,121
you're more likely
to get something.
484
00:21:52,145 --> 00:21:54,590
There are actually two owners,
both female.
485
00:21:54,614 --> 00:21:59,695
Are you picking up on who might
be the more sensitive or...?
486
00:21:59,719 --> 00:22:02,631
Whichever of the two
is the younger of the two,
487
00:22:02,655 --> 00:22:04,767
I feel, is more sensitive. Okay.
488
00:22:04,791 --> 00:22:09,004
Pretty much right off the bat,
Jack and I have suspected
489
00:22:09,028 --> 00:22:12,975
that Marge is way more sensitive
than she realizes,
490
00:22:12,999 --> 00:22:15,477
that after Cindy's reading,
491
00:22:15,501 --> 00:22:18,180
she really felt that it was
the younger of the two,
492
00:22:18,204 --> 00:22:19,415
which would be Linda.
493
00:22:19,439 --> 00:22:23,352
So, from here, I want to ask her
to come back in
494
00:22:23,376 --> 00:22:25,421
and see if her being here
495
00:22:25,445 --> 00:22:28,324
would change anything
on our investigation.
496
00:22:28,348 --> 00:22:29,892
They looked back
on security footage
497
00:22:29,916 --> 00:22:31,226
when they had a ghost tour here,
498
00:22:31,250 --> 00:22:33,796
and people were lighting candles
499
00:22:33,820 --> 00:22:35,564
and wearing cloaks at one point.
500
00:22:35,588 --> 00:22:37,499
That's not good.
Yeah.
501
00:22:37,523 --> 00:22:38,767
And that's where I would go.
502
00:22:38,791 --> 00:22:40,302
Okay, yeah.
503
00:22:40,326 --> 00:22:43,339
Cindy very much confirmed
a lot of what we'd been told.
504
00:22:43,363 --> 00:22:45,841
She believes that there's
a portal in the basement
505
00:22:45,865 --> 00:22:49,278
from people conducting some kind
of ceremonial or ritual.
506
00:22:49,302 --> 00:22:50,913
The next steps are
we're going to dive
507
00:22:50,937 --> 00:22:52,570
right into some
night investigation.
508
00:22:55,541 --> 00:22:59,421
Jack and I are setting up
for our night investigation.
509
00:22:59,445 --> 00:23:01,957
As we descend the basement.
510
00:23:01,981 --> 00:23:03,948
Watch your head!
511
00:23:07,687 --> 00:23:09,064
This is the military room.
512
00:23:09,088 --> 00:23:12,000
I think this is
an important area to focus on
513
00:23:12,024 --> 00:23:16,505
because so many different people
have had experiences here.
514
00:23:16,529 --> 00:23:18,640
There we go.
515
00:23:18,664 --> 00:23:21,543
Boom.
516
00:23:21,567 --> 00:23:23,178
Whaa!
517
00:23:23,202 --> 00:23:25,114
We have these light panels,
518
00:23:25,138 --> 00:23:29,440
and, basically, anytime there is
movement, they light up.
519
00:23:33,246 --> 00:23:35,023
We're in the kids room
right now,
520
00:23:35,047 --> 00:23:40,396
and this is where they captured
the video of a ball moving.
521
00:23:40,420 --> 00:23:42,664
So, we have
a couple of balls here.
522
00:23:42,688 --> 00:23:44,400
Put that there.
523
00:23:44,424 --> 00:23:48,303
Okay, if there's any little kids
here, we brought toys for you.
524
00:23:48,327 --> 00:23:52,574
I would love to see
how far you can kick each ball.
525
00:23:52,598 --> 00:23:54,610
This camera is all set.
526
00:23:54,634 --> 00:23:57,468
So, you have two angles on it
in case anything moves.
527
00:24:05,878 --> 00:24:07,823
Setting... everything is set.
528
00:24:07,847 --> 00:24:09,947
Walking away from the table.
529
00:24:12,051 --> 00:24:15,130
Okay.
I'm Katrina.
530
00:24:15,154 --> 00:24:16,465
This is Jack.
Howdy.
531
00:24:16,489 --> 00:24:18,233
You don't have
to be scared of US.
532
00:24:18,257 --> 00:24:21,003
We're friends of Patrick
and Linda and Marge,
533
00:24:21,027 --> 00:24:25,007
and we came because they told US
that you really want to talk.
534
00:24:25,031 --> 00:24:27,097
So, you want to talk to you.
535
00:24:29,135 --> 00:24:32,236
Are you afraid of anything...
Or anyone?
536
00:24:39,378 --> 00:24:42,057
You got a headache?
537
00:24:42,081 --> 00:24:45,461
You giving Jack a headache?
538
00:24:45,485 --> 00:24:48,964
Kind of achy pain
in the side of my head.
539
00:24:48,988 --> 00:24:51,889
Did you get hit on the side
of the head when you were alive?
540
00:24:55,127 --> 00:24:58,295
Let's play back.
See if we got anything.
541
00:25:03,035 --> 00:25:06,615
So, we want to talk to you.
542
00:25:06,639 --> 00:25:07,850
Is there someone...
543
00:25:07,874 --> 00:25:10,085
What was that?
I think it says "hi."
544
00:25:10,109 --> 00:25:13,155
You hear "hi"?
Yeah.
545
00:25:13,179 --> 00:25:15,346
So, we want to talk to you.
546
00:25:22,288 --> 00:25:23,288
Whoa.
547
00:25:30,162 --> 00:25:31,974
Let's play back.
548
00:25:31,998 --> 00:25:33,497
Let's see if we got anything.
549
00:25:36,168 --> 00:25:37,546
Whoa.
550
00:25:37,570 --> 00:25:42,117
Yeah.
551
00:25:42,141 --> 00:25:43,385
Yeah.
552
00:25:43,409 --> 00:25:45,854
I think we had some
pretty interesting evps.
553
00:25:45,878 --> 00:25:50,125
It sounded like a voice
came through that said, "yeah."
554
00:25:50,149 --> 00:25:52,928
It's, like, starting to wake up
is what it feels like to me.
555
00:25:52,952 --> 00:25:55,597
So, now we're gonna go down
into the basement.
556
00:25:55,621 --> 00:25:58,300
Cindy believes that there was
a ritual well done
557
00:25:58,324 --> 00:26:00,969
that opened up this doorway
in the basement.
558
00:26:00,993 --> 00:26:03,761
And, so, we're gonna test
that theory tonight.
559
00:26:08,568 --> 00:26:11,046
Oh, the vibe down here.
560
00:26:11,070 --> 00:26:12,347
Yeah?
Do you feel something?
561
00:26:12,371 --> 00:26:13,916
Uh-huh.
What do you feel?
562
00:26:13,940 --> 00:26:15,551
I just got like a stumbling...
Just sinking?
563
00:26:15,575 --> 00:26:17,686
Yeah, like,
a totally sinking feeling.
564
00:26:17,710 --> 00:26:19,710
But it's spooky down here.
565
00:26:22,148 --> 00:26:24,393
Okay.
566
00:26:24,417 --> 00:26:26,728
Recording.
567
00:26:26,752 --> 00:26:29,131
Alright, this recorder is set.
568
00:26:29,155 --> 00:26:33,468
Is anyone or anything in
the basement with US right now?
569
00:26:33,492 --> 00:26:35,804
You can maybe touch
that red light,
570
00:26:35,828 --> 00:26:38,740
the one with the metal antenna
sticking out of it.
571
00:26:38,764 --> 00:26:42,911
Maybe try to make it
change colors like that.
572
00:26:42,935 --> 00:26:45,180
We have a light panel
that, if you get near,
573
00:26:45,204 --> 00:26:47,671
the lights will light up.
574
00:26:50,376 --> 00:26:52,910
Who opened the doorway here?
575
00:26:58,985 --> 00:27:02,598
Who's the one
that scratches people...
576
00:27:02,622 --> 00:27:04,521
Or pushes people.
577
00:27:07,293 --> 00:27:09,304
Yeah, I'm hearing that.
578
00:27:09,328 --> 00:27:10,505
I thought that was you
on the stand,
579
00:27:10,529 --> 00:27:12,763
like tapping your feet
or something.
580
00:27:15,267 --> 00:27:17,746
Yes. That's exactly what it
sounds like,
581
00:27:17,770 --> 00:27:21,283
someone, like, bouncing a ball.
Like, "dun, dun, dun."
582
00:27:21,307 --> 00:27:24,586
I heard it again.
583
00:27:24,610 --> 00:27:31,393
Where are you guys
hearing it from?
584
00:27:31,417 --> 00:27:33,295
So, now the Mel meter's
going off in the hallway.
585
00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:35,430
So, we're gonna
go check that out now.
586
00:27:35,454 --> 00:27:39,823
Whoo.
This place is active.
587
00:27:48,834 --> 00:27:51,713
Something up here with US?
588
00:27:51,737 --> 00:27:55,917
Green for yes, red for no.
Can we play that game?
589
00:27:55,941 --> 00:27:57,941
Do you understand?
590
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:12,267
Do you not want to play with US?
591
00:28:12,291 --> 00:28:15,037
Hmm. Interesting.
592
00:28:15,061 --> 00:28:18,273
We were getting some interesting
Mel meter action.
593
00:28:18,297 --> 00:28:20,242
It's kind of what drew US
back up here when we came up
594
00:28:20,266 --> 00:28:22,466
from the basement,
and then it just stopped.
595
00:28:24,437 --> 00:28:26,481
Oh, great.
596
00:28:26,505 --> 00:28:28,583
- Hi!
- Hi.
597
00:28:28,607 --> 00:28:29,885
Come on in.
598
00:28:29,909 --> 00:28:32,020
Hi, Linda.
Hi.
599
00:28:32,044 --> 00:28:35,957
Jack and I have suspected
that maybe Linda and Marge
600
00:28:35,981 --> 00:28:39,761
are part of the reason
why there's so many experiences.
601
00:28:39,785 --> 00:28:44,800
After Cindy's reading, she
really felt that it was Linda.
602
00:28:44,824 --> 00:28:48,904
So, we asked her to come back in
to see if her being here
603
00:28:48,928 --> 00:28:53,508
would change anything
in our investigation.
604
00:28:53,532 --> 00:28:58,814
Would you be open to the idea
of sitting alone with headphones
605
00:28:58,838 --> 00:29:03,752
and a blindfold on while
we investigate?
606
00:29:03,776 --> 00:29:06,054
The headphones don't bother me,
607
00:29:06,078 --> 00:29:08,223
the blindfold
is what bothers me.
608
00:29:08,247 --> 00:29:11,326
I don't like not
being able to see.
609
00:29:11,350 --> 00:29:12,828
I can't guarantee
I'm going to last.
610
00:29:12,852 --> 00:29:14,129
Okay.
Yeah.
611
00:29:14,153 --> 00:29:15,864
But I will try it.
612
00:29:15,888 --> 00:29:18,467
We'll give these to you.
These are your headphones.
613
00:29:18,491 --> 00:29:21,837
Okay. My hands are shaking.
Katrina, could you?
614
00:29:21,861 --> 00:29:23,004
Yeah. Okay.
615
00:29:23,028 --> 00:29:24,740
So, we're having
her wear headphones
616
00:29:24,764 --> 00:29:27,876
to minimize interaction
with the activity here.
617
00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:30,779
Are they on there?
618
00:29:30,803 --> 00:29:33,014
We just really want to see
if her presence
619
00:29:33,038 --> 00:29:36,284
is enough of a trigger
to stir things up.
620
00:29:36,308 --> 00:29:38,587
I mean, I hate to be rude
about it,
621
00:29:38,611 --> 00:29:40,188
but we're gonna use her
as a living,
622
00:29:40,212 --> 00:29:41,289
breathing trigger object.
623
00:29:41,313 --> 00:29:43,425
Are they good?
Okay.
624
00:29:43,449 --> 00:29:46,049
Alrighty.
Okay.
625
00:29:48,587 --> 00:29:50,799
It is dark as in that hallway.
626
00:29:50,823 --> 00:29:52,801
Yeah.
There's no windows.
627
00:29:52,825 --> 00:29:55,637
We're gonna set up
some equipment in the hallway.
628
00:29:55,661 --> 00:29:58,006
Katrina is gonna be at one end.
I'm going to be at the other.
629
00:29:58,030 --> 00:30:02,666
We're gonna do a evp session and
just kind of see what we get.
630
00:30:08,073 --> 00:30:10,018
Okay.
631
00:30:10,042 --> 00:30:13,110
We want to talk
to whoever's here.
632
00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:19,394
What, you hearing something?
633
00:30:19,418 --> 00:30:21,351
Thought I heard whispering.
634
00:30:30,229 --> 00:30:32,930
We want to talk
to whoever's here.
635
00:30:35,734 --> 00:30:38,413
So, I...
636
00:30:38,437 --> 00:30:39,648
What, you hearing something?
637
00:30:39,672 --> 00:30:41,305
Thought I heard whispering.
638
00:30:48,380 --> 00:30:52,360
Scott, did you go in that room
to turn the motion light on?
639
00:30:52,384 --> 00:30:54,696
Whoo. Okay.
640
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,464
What would have set that off?
641
00:30:56,488 --> 00:30:57,855
I don't know.
642
00:31:02,795 --> 00:31:05,674
You know what
I'm going to get...
643
00:31:05,698 --> 00:31:08,243
Do you have... oh, yeah.
644
00:31:08,267 --> 00:31:10,846
Okay.
645
00:31:10,870 --> 00:31:13,070
Let's see who will talk to US.
646
00:31:15,407 --> 00:31:19,221
Hello?
647
00:31:19,245 --> 00:31:23,046
Who were you talking to?
648
00:31:25,451 --> 00:31:28,730
I'm lost.
649
00:31:28,754 --> 00:31:30,921
Who's lost?
650
00:31:33,025 --> 00:31:35,537
Spirits.
651
00:31:35,561 --> 00:31:37,194
Was your funeral here?
652
00:31:38,597 --> 00:31:40,275
I had "funeral."
653
00:31:40,299 --> 00:31:42,277
Holy
654
00:31:42,301 --> 00:31:43,445
can you help US?
655
00:31:43,469 --> 00:31:47,515
Can you turn on
some of our other equipment?
656
00:31:47,539 --> 00:31:50,285
There's a device
sitting in front of Linda.
657
00:31:50,309 --> 00:31:54,211
Can you make that go off?
658
00:31:57,049 --> 00:32:01,229
Oh
659
00:32:01,253 --> 00:32:03,798
you're right.
The energy has totally changed
660
00:32:03,822 --> 00:32:06,401
since she came in here.
Yeah, it's different.
661
00:32:06,425 --> 00:32:09,070
It's, like, uneasy.
Like that feeling that
662
00:32:09,094 --> 00:32:11,640
you get when locked into a haunted house.
Yeah.
663
00:32:11,664 --> 00:32:13,475
We've had some
intelligent voices
664
00:32:13,499 --> 00:32:15,610
coming through
on our ghost boxes,
665
00:32:15,634 --> 00:32:19,714
and to me, it all kind of seems
disjointed and a little erratic.
666
00:32:19,738 --> 00:32:21,249
I mean, we had
stuff happen earlier.
667
00:32:21,273 --> 00:32:24,786
It was just, like, a calmer,
more comfortable feeling.
668
00:32:24,810 --> 00:32:28,990
Yeah. I mean,
I wasn't that comfortable.
669
00:32:29,014 --> 00:32:31,660
But if we're thinking about
what they've said to US, right,
670
00:32:31,684 --> 00:32:34,262
and even if, you know,
taking Cindy's reading
671
00:32:34,286 --> 00:32:35,463
into consideration...
672
00:32:35,487 --> 00:32:36,731
How many spirits do you think...
673
00:32:36,755 --> 00:32:38,833
Like, intelligent
human spirits are here?
674
00:32:38,857 --> 00:32:41,036
Several.
I couldn't give you a number.
675
00:32:41,060 --> 00:32:42,837
It changes by the day,
I would think,
676
00:32:42,861 --> 00:32:44,105
because there's a portal.
677
00:32:44,129 --> 00:32:47,175
And if there really are
a high amount
678
00:32:47,199 --> 00:32:51,379
of intelligent entities here,
then a good kind of makes sense
679
00:32:51,403 --> 00:32:54,082
that everything's
a little erratic
680
00:32:54,106 --> 00:32:57,507
because they would all be
trying to communicate somehow.
681
00:33:00,612 --> 00:33:04,559
Do you know the flashlight game?
682
00:33:04,583 --> 00:33:06,928
I know you know
the flash like game.
683
00:33:06,952 --> 00:33:08,863
So, we're setting up flashlights
for spirits
684
00:33:08,887 --> 00:33:10,298
to communicate with US.
685
00:33:10,322 --> 00:33:13,034
You unscrewed the top so the
contacts are barely touching.
686
00:33:13,058 --> 00:33:15,070
And the thought is
that this allows spirits
687
00:33:15,094 --> 00:33:17,038
to turn the lights on or off
688
00:33:17,062 --> 00:33:19,107
in response
to the questions you ask.
689
00:33:19,131 --> 00:33:21,810
Alright, this is Jack
and Katrina's evp session
690
00:33:21,834 --> 00:33:24,779
in the hallway,
iron island museum.
691
00:33:24,803 --> 00:33:27,170
Setting recorder down.
692
00:33:34,279 --> 00:33:37,325
Okay. Were we communicating
with somebody earlier,
693
00:33:37,349 --> 00:33:39,361
just a few minutes ago?
694
00:33:39,385 --> 00:33:42,097
Can you do that again
by setting off our equipment
695
00:33:42,121 --> 00:33:44,488
or turning on a flashlight?
696
00:33:51,397 --> 00:33:53,675
Are you kidding me?
697
00:33:53,699 --> 00:33:55,477
Oh, my god.
698
00:33:55,501 --> 00:33:56,967
Oh, my god.
699
00:34:00,439 --> 00:34:02,917
Were we communicating
with somebody earlier
700
00:34:02,941 --> 00:34:04,853
just a few minutes ago?
701
00:34:04,877 --> 00:34:07,822
Can you do that again
by setting off our equipment
702
00:34:07,846 --> 00:34:10,981
or turning on a flashlight?
703
00:34:12,551 --> 00:34:14,796
Are you kidding me?
704
00:34:14,820 --> 00:34:16,865
Oh, my god.
705
00:34:16,889 --> 00:34:19,367
Oh, my god.
706
00:34:19,391 --> 00:34:21,536
Thank you very much,
if that was you.
707
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,171
I think Jack and I
would love to know
708
00:34:23,195 --> 00:34:25,407
who we're talking to.
709
00:34:25,431 --> 00:34:28,643
Can you turn
that flashlight off now,
710
00:34:28,667 --> 00:34:31,668
make a different one go on?
711
00:34:41,547 --> 00:34:44,414
Are you the dark entity?
712
00:34:46,785 --> 00:34:50,899
The tall, shadowy figure?
713
00:34:50,923 --> 00:34:53,034
Can you turn on
a different flashlight
714
00:34:53,058 --> 00:34:55,192
or turn on the same one
right now?
715
00:35:08,907 --> 00:35:10,885
That weirded me out.
716
00:35:10,909 --> 00:35:12,854
That's really weird.
717
00:35:12,878 --> 00:35:16,257
Can you do that again
by setting off our equipment
718
00:35:16,281 --> 00:35:19,382
or turning on a flashlight?
719
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,667
Oh, my god.
720
00:35:25,691 --> 00:35:28,002
We can't really figure out
what's causing our electronics
721
00:35:28,026 --> 00:35:29,737
to go off the way
that they're going off.
722
00:35:29,761 --> 00:35:34,175
Flashlights have gone
on and off kind of on command.
723
00:35:34,199 --> 00:35:36,811
How you doing?
You okay?
724
00:35:36,835 --> 00:35:38,780
I think so.
Okay.
725
00:35:38,804 --> 00:35:40,215
Have you been feeling anything?
726
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,452
I did feel was one tinge
of the movement of the floor,
727
00:35:44,476 --> 00:35:47,322
but I don't know if anyone
was walking behind me or not.
728
00:35:47,346 --> 00:35:49,324
Mm. Mm-hmm.
729
00:35:49,348 --> 00:35:51,915
What were you thinking?
730
00:36:02,728 --> 00:36:04,439
Huh.
731
00:36:04,463 --> 00:36:06,608
I don't know
if you could hear it,
732
00:36:06,632 --> 00:36:07,909
but that was going off
the whole...
733
00:36:07,933 --> 00:36:09,444
I kind of saw it blinking.
734
00:36:09,468 --> 00:36:12,780
There's a device sitting
in front of Linda.
735
00:36:12,804 --> 00:36:14,337
Can you make that go off?
736
00:36:17,509 --> 00:36:18,853
Oh
737
00:36:18,877 --> 00:36:20,221
thank you so much, Linda.
738
00:36:20,245 --> 00:36:23,224
I know this was a bit
of a leap of faith.
739
00:36:23,248 --> 00:36:25,360
You putting your trust in US.
740
00:36:25,384 --> 00:36:26,427
I trust you.
That's why I did it.
741
00:36:26,451 --> 00:36:28,029
I appreciate that.
742
00:36:28,053 --> 00:36:30,398
I'm drained because of the
spikes and adrenaline tonight.
743
00:36:30,422 --> 00:36:31,633
I'm just like like,
"ooh."
744
00:36:31,657 --> 00:36:35,703
Like, "wow. This was
a really intense evening."
745
00:36:35,727 --> 00:36:39,974
Every room we went to, we were
getting intelligent responses,
746
00:36:39,998 --> 00:36:42,677
oogie-boogie scale... ooh.
This place is definitely
747
00:36:42,701 --> 00:36:45,168
floating between an 8
and a 9. That's for sure.
748
00:36:53,946 --> 00:36:56,658
Interesting place you have here
on your hands.
749
00:36:56,682 --> 00:36:58,259
From our investigation,
750
00:36:58,283 --> 00:37:00,161
we had some really
interesting experiences.
751
00:37:00,185 --> 00:37:01,563
And truth be told,
752
00:37:01,587 --> 00:37:04,699
it was a really active,
vibrant evening.
753
00:37:04,723 --> 00:37:06,601
Our psychic seemed to think
754
00:37:06,625 --> 00:37:08,203
most of the spirits
that come here,
755
00:37:08,227 --> 00:37:09,637
and she believed
there were a lot,
756
00:37:09,661 --> 00:37:11,539
and they are just coming
and going as they please
757
00:37:11,563 --> 00:37:14,609
just because they don't know
where else to go.
758
00:37:14,633 --> 00:37:17,178
She thought that the portal
was in the basement.
759
00:37:17,202 --> 00:37:20,181
It was created when people
were doing rituals here.
760
00:37:20,205 --> 00:37:23,318
Opening the portal,
which is also here.
761
00:37:23,342 --> 00:37:25,653
You think it's down here?
I think it's down here.
762
00:37:25,677 --> 00:37:28,690
And that was opened up
by a group of people
763
00:37:28,714 --> 00:37:32,560
that were practicing
negative rituals.
764
00:37:32,584 --> 00:37:35,196
Makes a lot of sense.
Yeah.
765
00:37:35,220 --> 00:37:36,464
You want to start with clips?
766
00:37:36,488 --> 00:37:37,966
- Yeah.
- Okay. - Sounds great.
767
00:37:37,990 --> 00:37:41,869
Alright, so, this was
when we were in the hallway.
768
00:37:41,893 --> 00:37:46,107
We want to talk
to whoever's here.
769
00:37:46,131 --> 00:37:48,142
What? Scott,
did you go in that room
770
00:37:48,166 --> 00:37:51,746
to turn the motion light on?
771
00:37:51,770 --> 00:37:53,848
Wow.
772
00:37:53,872 --> 00:37:57,585
Some light is shining
into the room from somewhere.
773
00:37:57,609 --> 00:38:01,289
We don't know what it is.
No one is in the kid's room.
774
00:38:01,313 --> 00:38:04,626
And then this is
the question for you and you...
775
00:38:04,650 --> 00:38:07,161
Especially you.
776
00:38:07,185 --> 00:38:09,264
Do you guys think
you're psychic?
777
00:38:09,288 --> 00:38:11,432
A little bit, yes.
Yeah?
778
00:38:11,456 --> 00:38:12,734
But you don't think you are?
779
00:38:12,758 --> 00:38:16,771
If I do, I run away from it
as fast as I can.
780
00:38:16,795 --> 00:38:19,540
The homeowner here
is more influenced by this
781
00:38:19,564 --> 00:38:22,110
than she wants to acknowledge
782
00:38:22,134 --> 00:38:24,646
because she thinks people
are going to think she's crazy.
783
00:38:24,670 --> 00:38:26,347
She doesn't talk about
having nightmares?
784
00:38:26,371 --> 00:38:27,682
No, not that we know of.
785
00:38:27,706 --> 00:38:29,017
You're going to
have to ask her that.
786
00:38:29,041 --> 00:38:30,451
Are you having experiences
787
00:38:30,475 --> 00:38:31,986
that you haven't
told anybody about
788
00:38:32,010 --> 00:38:35,078
or that you've kept maybe
just between you and your mom?
789
00:38:38,183 --> 00:38:44,198
Um, I have dreams...
When people I love die.
790
00:38:44,222 --> 00:38:49,137
I had a very, very, very close
friend who was murdered.
791
00:38:49,161 --> 00:38:53,474
And in my bedroom, I put
a wing chair next to my bed.
792
00:38:53,498 --> 00:38:56,744
I woke up in the middle
of the night,
793
00:38:56,768 --> 00:38:59,380
and David was sitting
right in that chair.
794
00:38:59,404 --> 00:39:03,818
And he said
to me that he loved me.
795
00:39:03,842 --> 00:39:08,690
And, um... I don't...
I don't tell people stuff
796
00:39:08,714 --> 00:39:11,092
because, you know,
people think you're nuts.
797
00:39:11,116 --> 00:39:12,860
I never thought of it
as being a psychic
798
00:39:12,884 --> 00:39:14,929
or having that ability.
799
00:39:14,953 --> 00:39:17,632
So, I will tell you
that when Cindy came in,
800
00:39:17,656 --> 00:39:20,735
she very much felt that the
younger of the two homeowners,
801
00:39:20,759 --> 00:39:22,637
which would be you...
Whichever of the two
802
00:39:22,661 --> 00:39:25,840
is the younger of the two,
I feel, is more sensitive,
803
00:39:25,864 --> 00:39:27,508
is having a lot of experiences,
804
00:39:27,532 --> 00:39:30,578
is way more sensitive
than she wants to admit
805
00:39:30,602 --> 00:39:32,380
and does not tell people
because she is worried
806
00:39:32,404 --> 00:39:35,683
that she thinks everyone
will think she's crazy.
807
00:39:35,707 --> 00:39:37,819
Wow.
808
00:39:37,843 --> 00:39:40,388
Now, why this was important
is because she thinks
809
00:39:40,412 --> 00:39:43,091
this is part of the reason
why this place is so active.
810
00:39:43,115 --> 00:39:44,459
When somebody is sensitive,
811
00:39:44,483 --> 00:39:47,028
they become that lighthouse
in a very dark ocean...
812
00:39:47,052 --> 00:39:48,563
You know, like a moth
to the flame.
813
00:39:48,587 --> 00:39:49,897
They're going to come to you.
814
00:39:49,921 --> 00:39:51,599
I like that description.
815
00:39:51,623 --> 00:39:52,967
Yeah.
And that's why we brought you in
816
00:39:52,991 --> 00:39:56,504
to see if you being here
helps trigger activity.
817
00:39:56,528 --> 00:39:57,939
And this is the woman
who won't come
818
00:39:57,963 --> 00:39:59,440
in the building by herself.
819
00:39:59,464 --> 00:40:03,544
I know. She told US.
But it paid off because we...
820
00:40:03,568 --> 00:40:06,514
This is amazing.
This is really cool.
821
00:40:06,538 --> 00:40:09,717
This is easily some
of the coolest footage
822
00:40:09,741 --> 00:40:11,986
I think we've ever captured.
823
00:40:12,010 --> 00:40:14,589
Can you make something light up
or go off?
824
00:40:14,613 --> 00:40:17,325
Oh.
Oh.
825
00:40:17,349 --> 00:40:22,552
Thank you. Can you turn off
that flashlight now?
826
00:40:24,289 --> 00:40:26,367
Wow.
Something was there.
827
00:40:26,391 --> 00:40:28,736
Throughout the rest
of the night, we left them on,
828
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,304
and they wouldn't go off. Yeah.
829
00:40:30,328 --> 00:40:31,506
We're walking all around it.
830
00:40:31,530 --> 00:40:32,907
We were stepping over them.
Everything.
831
00:40:32,931 --> 00:40:34,475
They weren't going off.
832
00:40:34,499 --> 00:40:36,144
Interesting.
Very interesting.
833
00:40:36,168 --> 00:40:39,202
Can you turn off
that flashlight now?
834
00:40:41,106 --> 00:40:42,450
And I would suggest for you...
835
00:40:42,474 --> 00:40:44,986
You seem like you're you're okay
with your abilities,
836
00:40:45,010 --> 00:40:47,255
that you've realized this
for a while.
837
00:40:47,279 --> 00:40:49,891
But for you,
I would say when it hurts,
838
00:40:49,915 --> 00:40:53,861
maybe look into exploring that.
839
00:40:53,885 --> 00:40:56,297
Honestly, it might give
that power back to you.
840
00:40:56,321 --> 00:40:58,266
Because when you have
a haunted house,
841
00:40:58,290 --> 00:41:00,635
it feels like
it's not your house.
842
00:41:00,659 --> 00:41:03,471
It's someone else's.
So, put that power back to you,
843
00:41:03,495 --> 00:41:05,306
and I think you'll feel
a lot better.
844
00:41:05,330 --> 00:41:06,741
You guys bought it.
You take care of.
845
00:41:06,765 --> 00:41:08,476
It's been 20 years
that you've been doing this.
846
00:41:08,500 --> 00:41:11,145
It's your time to be here.
They've had their time.
847
00:41:11,169 --> 00:41:12,802
Okay.
848
00:41:23,682 --> 00:41:26,594
Alright, you all set?
Alright.
849
00:41:26,618 --> 00:41:29,497
Alright, so, iron island museum.
850
00:41:29,521 --> 00:41:31,165
What do you think?
Haunted.
851
00:41:31,189 --> 00:41:33,768
Do you think it's a portal?
852
00:41:33,792 --> 00:41:36,237
I think it depends
on who you talk to.
853
00:41:36,261 --> 00:41:37,939
I don't know
that we saw evidence of that.
854
00:41:37,963 --> 00:41:39,574
I agree.
855
00:41:39,598 --> 00:41:42,142
But we definitely got
some paranormal evidence
856
00:41:42,166 --> 00:41:44,479
that I don't think
we've really had before.
857
00:41:44,503 --> 00:41:46,781
No. This is definitely
a very special place.
858
00:41:46,805 --> 00:41:48,905
So, uh, onward.
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