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What's my business?

Are you asking about
Jack Osbourne?

Is this place a portal to hell?

That's bones.

Serious?

He believes
that you're demonic...

so this should
really piss you off.

There are places in this world,

places closer than you think,
that are riddled with secrets...

Towns with hidden pasts...

mysteries buried...

where the truth is concealed
within the walls.

As a paranormal investigator,
every so often,

a case will bring you
to one of these places...

and what you will encounter

is far more
than you ever bargained for.

You leave the investigation
a different person.

Sometimes, a case and a place
will change you.

So we are going
to Old Paulding Jail.

Old Paulding Jail...
Well, it was built in the 1870s,

and it was a operating jail
until 2006.

We could have been
locked up here.

Yeah.

The current owners
have had a lot

of different
paranormal experiences

to the point
where the main owner, Shelly,

she believes that there are...

I want to say
like seven distinct,

different spirits there.

They have reported
being scratched, pushed,

hearing things, seeing things.

I mean, the list goes on and on.

And, you know,
there's some speculation that,

you know, was Paulding
a dumping ground for the mob?

There was a huge mob population
in Detroit,

and it was very easy
for them to come over here

and just sort of
get rid of things

they didn't want people
knowing about.

Yeah.

You know, I don't know if you
want to call it a burial ground,

but, I mean, a graveyard
of sorts, this whole area.

Yeah, yeah, and did
all the body dumping or murders,

did that sort of
just add fuel to the fire?

Yeah.

So this is kind of what's weird
about Paulding.

Several decades ago,

it had the highest unsolved
murder rate in the state.

Wow.

I guess the biggest
unsolved murder

was this 14-year-old girl,
Nancy.

Girl gets kidnapped, raped,

shot in the head,
left in the woods.

And then there is the notion
that the sheriff at the time,

Sheriff John Keeler,
could have been involved.

He could have been
hiding evidence.

So that's my question, too,
because they did take evidence,

and it went missing.

Ah, okay,
but didn't they uncover

some of Nancy's belongings
in the jail?

Yeah, so they were doing
renovation work,

and they found, like,
these false walls,

and when they were
taking them down,

they found a piece of clothing
that looked like

it was from a dress
and also a woman's shoe.

And her mom ID'd it as her
daughter's clothing and shoe.

I don't know.
It feels kind of creepy to me.

It's a little weird,

and the current owner
of Paulding Jail

believes that Nancy
is haunting her jail.

And on top of that,

you've got this big,
giant limestone jail

where there's a lot
of trauma associated,

and that building could have
absorbed some of that.

Right.

There it is,
the old Paulding water tower.

This is it.
This is it.

Yeah.

Wow.

The Paulding Jail kind of
ticks all the boxes

for, like,
an awesome ghost hunt.

The jail was operating
for like 150 years.

There's alleged cover-ups.

There was a really high amount
of unsolved murders in the area,

and this jail is pretty unique.

Some say it's
the oldest building in Ohio,

and I've investigated
a fair amount of jails.

They've always been
really active,

and whether you believe
in ghosts or not,

there is a distinct
difference energetically

when you cross the threshold
and enter the buildings.

Shelly?
Hello!

- Hi!
- Hi, how it's going, Shelly?

Hi, I'm Katrina.

- Hi, Katrina, good to meet you.
- Good to meet you, too.

- Nice to meet you, Jack.
- Nice to meet you, too.

Hey, Vincent, come on out here.

Thank you for having us.

Oh, gosh.
Thanks for coming.

- Yeah.
- This is my husband, Vincent.

Hey.
Hi.

Hi.
How's it going?

Katrina.
Vincent.

Nice to meet you, Vincent.
Jack.

So I know you're
a paranormal investigator.

- I am.
- Vincent, are you a believer?

When I did come to start
working on the bathroom

and hearing voices
right in my ear,

- that opened my eyes.
- Wow.

What kind of voices
did you hear? Male, female?

It was a male, but it was
more felt than heard.

Huh.

And you guys took over when?

2015.

I bought it.

Originally, I was going to
use it for office space,

and redo it,
make it like a museum.

It's a historic building.

So what kind of things
have you experienced here?

Oh, my gosh.

We have phantom footsteps,
disembodied voices,

things appear,
disappear from the building,

people get touched
and scratched and pushed.

If it's okay, I have some things
I need to take care of.

Oh, sure.
Sure, yeah.

Do your thing, Vincent.
I'll talk to you later.

Yeah, we'll see you around.

I will tell you,

he is actually scared
of the ghosts in the building.

That's why he doesn't partake
in much of anything.

That's the whole issue.

He didn't believe at first,
and now he's afraid of them.

Just yesterday,
when I was in the office,

just sitting in my office chair,
for the first time,

I was scratched
just sitting there.

My husband come in, and he said,
"Oh, my gosh, you're bleeding."

I'm like, "Holy cow,
where did that come from?"

- Wow.
- Did you feel it as it happened?

I didn't even know it.

I was just sitting there,
and he's like, "Oh, my.

You're bleeding," and I'm like,
"That's the first time."

Okay.

Well, why don't we start
the tour,

and we'll go, I guess,

wherever you think
we should start.

Well, we're heading up
to the living quarters here.

Where these offices then?

Well, back in the day,

the front half of this building

was the living quarters.

The sheriff and his family
lived in the building

with the inmates until 1977,

and up these stairs will be
the more intimate spaces

that the family used.

Okay.
Wow, interesting.

You guys ready?
Come on up.

All right.

This here is the third floor,

and this is
the most intimate area.

I always announce I'm going up

because the sheriff
is always here.

Sheriff Keeler, it's me, Shelly.

I'm coming up,
bringing some friends with me.

Up here,
you can hear the sheriff

walking around a lot of times.

The disembodied voices,

we don't need
any equipment to hear him.

He is the dominant spirit
of the building.

He can be aggressive.

One of the really good things
about this case so far

is that Shelly has done
so much research,

and she's documented
her experiences so well

that she's actually
come up with profiles

for all the different spirits

that she believes
are haunting this location,

and it could be right,
but it might not be.

And I think one of the worst
things that Jack and I could do

is believe every single piece
to be accurate

because that's when
we'll be thrown on our ass.

There's times
when these cameras up here,

they will pulsate.

We've checked, renewed lines.

We've put new cameras in.

We've checked breaker boxes
for the power.

They'll pulsate,
and when that happens,

there's a spot
on this wall over here.

You can see it
on the downstairs cameras,

on the monitors.

It'll start, I don't know,
kind of like morphing,

and you can see actual faces
coming out of that.

We have footage of this.

Hmm.

You can just barely see that
when it appears,

a face of a child.

Want to see this?
Let us see this.

Now, a close-up will come of it.

Oh, wow, yeah.

Oh, it moves.

Mm-hmm, and that is
a closer-up picture of it.

Weird.

It's weird because initially
when it pops up,

it happens, like, in a flash.

So I'm like,

"Oh, it's got to be something
with the lights or the camera,"

but what's odd about it
is how it retracts

because it's just
a slow pullback.

Mm-hmm.

Okay, would you like to see
the first-floor cellblock?

Yeah.
Let us do it.

Let's go.

This area here
is where a man named Gary

was found hanged in 1998.

He was found by the jailer
at 7:20 in the morning,

however,
I think there was foul play.

Wait, wait, wait,
hold up for a second.

Do you ever hear breathing
back here?

Yes, heavy breathing?

Yeah.
Gasping?

However, I think
there was foul play.

Wait, wait, wait,
hold up for a second.

Well, I heard that.
Yeah.

Gary was only being held in here
on a child-support case.

He had been here five days
waiting to go to court,

so it wasn't anything serious.

He had a good job.
He was married.

He lived in Alabama.

So I ask...

the spirits...

You know, I asked Gary himself,

EVP sessions, spirits say
he didn't hurt himself.

The story about Gary's death
is interesting.

When they found him, his feet
were still on the ground,

so it was more like he had...

He didn't necessarily
break his neck.

He just, like,
asphyxiated himself.

Strange, very strange,
and it's strange

that a guy would hang himself
after going to jail

for something as nothing
as, like, paying child support.

Are you guys ready to go
to the second floor?

Yeah.
Yeah.

This is the second-floor block.

Misdemeanor crime people
were held here.

So more serious crimes
were held downstairs?

Yes, so they would be
closer to the office.

They could keep an eye
on them better.

Up here, we get dark mass,

shadow ghosts
taking human shape,

and they stand around people.

- Interesting.
- You see them with your own eyes?

Oh, yes.
A lot of people see them.

Shall we go to the basement now?

Yeah.
I'm down.

Okay, let's roll.
Literally.

We are heading to the basement.

Mm.

Weird vibe.

It's a lot bigger than...

- What you were expecting?
- We were expecting, yeah.

This area, Nancy Eagleson...

She communicates
with us down here.

Why do you think
she's coming here?

Well, I think because
her case has not been resolved,

and at some point...

And I haven't been able
to figure out

when or who done it, the...

The sounds are morphing.

Yeah, my Mel Meter
was really acting up.

It doesn't normally
kind of pop off like it was.

What if we are interacting
with Nancy Eagleson's spirit?

These cells were blocked up,
bricked up,

and so were the whole tunnels.

A whole entire false wall
was put up, and a cell...

The first cell to your left
had been opened up.

That's where missing evidence
from that case was found,

all bricked up in there.

It was Nancy's shoe
and a piece of her dress.

In regards to Nancy,
it's very weird that, you know,

they would let their most
prolific cold case in their town

have all that evidence
end up behind that wall.

So do we know who actually
sealed off the cells?

I have tried and tried
and tried to figure out

when those were sealed,
which sheriff,

which time period,
and I can't figure it out.

Mm-hmm.

Should we go take a look?
Absolutely.

All right.

This here is where
the cells are, down there.

Wow.

And this first one on your left

is the one that
they found the evidence in.

Can I go in?
Yes, go ahead.

Take a look around.

People get scratched in here,
shoved.

They get disembodied voices.

These are for Nancy?

Yep, they are for her
because we thought maybe

she might like those.

Yeah.

And how many cells total
are down here?

Seven,
so there's four on this side

and three on this side,

and there's one over here
that hasn't been opened yet.

Wow.

Is there any way into it?

No, not unless
we open it with...

Have somebody cut it open.

So it's right in here.

That's one
that's never been opened.

Interesting.

I think one of
the things we really need to do

is get behind that wall.

If there was evidence
in one of the cells,

then maybe there's more evidence
in another cell...

but as long
as we get in there somehow,

we'll have that answer.

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but something might be there

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So we just finished
our tour with Shelly,

and I think Shelly is very,
very dedicated

to finding out
the truth of this building

and to finding out
who haunts this building.

And one of the really great
things we have with Shelly

is that she has
all of these names

that she's been able to connect
to pieces of activity,

but she's having
a lot of trouble

trying to really
get documentation on them.

So Jack and I are going to meet
with the town newspaper

to see if we can drum up
any information

that might help
our investigation

just in case there's any
connection to the experiences

that people are having.

I think I found
some research for you

that hopefully...

- Exciting.
- Will be able to help you.

Oh, perfect.

Here's some information
on the jail

and some more
on the Nancy Eagleson case.

Oh, perfect.

We got some names from Shelly

about who she believes
is haunting...

Obviously, Nancy,
she thinks is there.

Right.

She believes Sheriff Keeler
is there.

She also pulled out
some other names...

Gary and the jailer.

This area here is where

a man named Gary
was found hanged.

Shelly was telling us

that she believes
Gary was murdered.

Did you ever remember hearing
any news scenes about that

as you guys
were reporting that story?

No.
Yeah?

Not at the time.

It did seem a little strange

that somebody
in the commons area

would have been able
to do something like that.

Mm-hmm.

It is strange
that you're only in jail

for five days
for something minor,

and he ends up killing himself,

and then killing himself
in a communal area,

assuming that there's probably
a guard around, like...

No, and that would have been
breakfast time, too.

Yeah.
Yeah.

As far as the Nancy case goes,

having done
your own investigation,

do you have a thought
or a theory,

like a, you know,
your own conclusion,

having spent
so much time on this?

It's so hard to stay.
Yeah?

There were just things
that didn't add up,

but there was some discussion

that the sheriff
was involved somehow

or knew who did it
and kind of covered it up,

and that's why
it was never solved.

Mm-hmm.

I mean, that was certainly
one theory out there.

There wasn't really anything
to substantiate it,

but people did find it odd

that the body was found
so quickly after the murder.

I mean, it was just within
an hour or so.

- Yeah.
- And it sounds like they found, like,

a piece of cloth from the dress

or part of the scarf
in the cell, is that right?

I don't know that they were able
to connect the two,

but they did find some fabric
in the cell, also.

Right, and her mom identified

both the shoe and the fabric.

I believe so, yeah.

What did the kind of
local law enforcement

have to say about it?

They didn't want
to talk to anybody

from TV, newspapers.

It was very strained.

Hmm.

'Cause, I mean, it's just odd.

Like, from a paranormal
researcher perspective, right,

a lot of times,
the experiences we have

that we can't explain
connect back to history.

Not all the time,

but a lot of times,
we found that connection.

So, you know,
we don't really know

if Nancy is at the jail.

We don't know this,
but there seems to be, you know,

if that was her shoe
that was found,

which her mom ID'd,

there's the mystery of why
those walls were put up.

Yeah.

So it's just like
all these little mysteries,

and, you know, so then it
makes me wonder why is there...

If Nancy is there,
is there a reason for it?

And it's, like, all right here,

and we're just not seeing
the full picture.

And it kind of seems like
the more we dig into this,

the more secrets we find.

We like to have answers,

clear answers, for everything,

and that's not always possible.

Yeah, I mean, hopefully,
we come back with some results,

and, you know,

whether it's admissible or not,
but, you know.

- I can't wait to hear it.
- Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, we have got
our work cut out.

Yes, we do.

Right now, my head
is just kind of swirling

with everything we talked about.

There were a couple times
when we were talking

where Melinda just kind of
gave these looks like

she wanted to say something,
but she was...

I don't know
if she was afraid to say it

or she was uncomfortable
saying it,

but there were a couple times
where I felt like

she just wanted to get something
off of her chest but couldn't.

What that is, I don't know,

but it always kind of
seemed to come up

when we were talking
specifically about the sheriff.

It's always
a little nerve-racking

trying to figure out
why that is because,

I mean, if it does have anything
to do with the sheriff,

I mean, what kind of risk are
Jack and I putting on ourselves

by going in here and trying
to dredge up this history?

Are you ready to go?

Here, I'll give you that.

So it's Day 2.

We've got kind of a busy day
ahead of us.

We managed to get ahold
of an engineering firm

and some stonemasons,

and they're going to come in
and hopefully bust in that cell

that no one has opened,
which is kind of exciting.

Watch your step, guys.

I'm wondering if they genuinely
found evidence

from Nancy Eagleson's murder
in one of these sealed cells,

I mean, who knows what else
could be buried here

or, you know,
bricked up behind a wall.

There's a lot of mystery
surrounding the way

that this sheriff's department
ran itself.

It's kind of creepy,
to be honest with you.

What's up, guys?
We're good.

So what's the plan?

We're going to remove
these three blocks.

Okay.

Just because they're straight,
so we can get to them

without damaging
the rest of the wall.

Okay, good stuff.
All right.

Well, let's get jackhammering.

I don't know.

I think this case
is way more layered

than we ever expected it to be,
and I think Jack and I

definitely have our work
cut out for us.

So I'm going to go meet
with Kat Hobson.

She is
this paranormal investigator

and has been in the field
for a really long time,

and apparently,
what happened to her here

was really harrowing.

Katrina?

Yeah.
Hi, Kat.

Hi.
I'm Kat, yes.

Nice to meet you.

- It's nice to meet you, too.
- Yeah, have a seat.

Shelly said that I should
come and speak with you.

Yeah, I heard from Shelly

that you had some
pretty crazy experiences here.

I had very crazy
experiences here.

When did you first come here?

I first came here, I guess,
in 2015, 2016,

and the activity
was the most intense

paranormal experience
I've ever had.

Are we through?

We're through.

Let's take a look.

Awesome.

Yeah, I mean,
let's just do the whole thing.

Might as well.

All right.
We're already here.

No problem.
Get us in.

We just came up
from the basement.

The guys are still
hammering away.

It's funny.

It sounds like
there's a prison break going on.

I can see in,
and there's a lot of, like,

rocks and debris in the vault,
but it's all covered in dust.

So there could be artifacts
down there.

You can't tell.

So I told them, like,

"Let's bust it through
so we can actually get inside."

We'll go down there
with a metal detector

and kind of just see
if we can find something.

I went down
to the first-floor cellblock,

and feet started stomping
all around me,

heavy stomping.

Apparently, that is considered
hallowed ground

by the spirits here.

Why do you say that?

Because they went crazy.

The next thing that started
happening almost immediately

was the steel,
the heavy, steel fire doors

were being banged on.

Really?
I mean, every floor.

On every floor?

It wasn't just
where I was anymore.

I was freaking out

because it felt like the whole
building was angry, right?

Yeah.

I mean, like, bam,
every one of them.

I had every spirit in this jail

livid with me.

So do you think that Jack and I

are in any kind of danger?

I do think that
if you're not careful,

these spirits can get
really angry.

I think that

if you are wanting
to push an envelope,

I think that you will
get that right back.

Hmm.

Katrina?

Yeah, go ahead.

You might want to come
down here sooner than later.

We're just about through
the prison cell so, yeah.

Okay.
All right, coming.

Okay, so I have to go meet Jack.

Are you okay
if I leave you here?

I'm sorry to do that, but...

I am.
We've got to go.

Hurry up.
Okay.

All right, coming.

All right, guys.

Are they through the wall?

Yeah, they're through.

How do I get down there?

Keep going straight.
Did you get through?

Oh, yeah.
Really?

Here we are, look.

Boom, look at this.

Oh

Can we go in?

We can.

I was going to
climb on in there.

I think we do it.

All right.

Going in.

Watch that sharp rock.
There you go.

I feel like this is a...

Whoa, that's bones.

Is that a bone?
There's bones in here, guys.

- Whoa, that's bones.
- Is that a bone?

There's bones in here, guys.

There's bones in here.

Looks like vertebraes.

Guys.
Do you guys have gloves?

I don't know what
that is, but...

All right.
We should...

That looks too small
to be human, right?

I don't know.

There's definitely animal bones
right there

that are really tiny,
but these are...

They're big.
It's pretty big.

I don't know what that would be.

Gloves.

See that?

Yeah.
But that's cut.

That's been cut.

Because of how clean it is?
Yeah.

Do you think a rodent
could have done that?

No, these are definitely...
They're probably rat.

- These look like rat bones.
- Those look like rats, yeah.

Yeah, because look,
there's the pelvic.

I mean, it kind of
looks like a vertebrae.

That's bigger than anything

that could have gotten through
that hole, that's for sure.

But, I mean, if that's
a vertebrae, that's like

a human-sized vertebrae.

You think so?
Yeah.

I mean, think about your bones
in your back.

Or they're dog.

I mean, it's not...
But then, like, what's this?

Like, this is why it looks cut,
like that could be...

That's like a leg bone
that's been cut.

If they are, in fact, human,

it completely shuts down
the entire investigation,

and this becomes
an active crime scene.

It's just weird, and so we're
trying to figure out, all right,

what are we going to do?
What's the plan?

How do we proceed?

I mean, I don't know
enough about bones

to know what it could be.

- Initially, I think they're too small
to be human. - Yeah.

But unless
it's a small human, so...

Here's the thing.
This isn't our property.

We should be asking Shelly
what she wants us to do.

Do you want me to go get Shelly?

Yeah.

Guys, I got Shelly.

Hey, Shelly.

I'm nervous.

No.
Find something?

Well, we found bones.

What kind?
I don't know.

They're too big for rat because
there's rat bones right here.

Oh, my gosh.

Pretty large piece of bone
right there.

Yeah.

I've seen rodent bones,
and that's not a rodent bone.

Yeah.
No.

No.
Yeah, it's too big.

So my thought would be
to bag it.

We definitely need to find out.

Yeah, I mean, I kind of
wanted to leave this up to you

because it's your property.

That's alarming

because that doesn't
look like animal.

I guess then we decide

what to do with them after that.

Okay.
All right.

Thank you, Shelly.

Wow.

Yes.
Another piece.

Oh, what did you find?

Oh.

I think it's an animal.

Yeah, we've hit like ground
water or clay or something.

Yeah.

I don't see anything of, like,
clothing or shoes

or a purse
that could be connected

to what they found
in the other cell, at least.

I would like to figure out
what those are before we proceed

because if they are,
in fact, human,

we're contaminating

or it could be
a potential crime scene,

and that's going to involve us

kind of shutting cameras down.

I'll take them up.
Okay.

Can we come out of here now?

Will you guys help me out?

And I got to say,
I'm a little freaked out

because when we entered,
I just see this bone,

and then I start moving
other bones around

and I see more bones.
And in all,

I think we recovered
like eight bones from that,

but there's two in there
which are sizable.

They are too big to be rodent,

and they're not small enough
to totally rule out human.

That's kind of where I'm at,
and really the question becomes

why are there bones
behind a sealed-off cell?

Could this be a part
of a cover-up?

Breaking ground into a space

that people haven't been
for, as far as we know,

two or three decades,
maybe even longer,

and to think about
who might be down there

and what other secrets
might be below that ground,

even if it doesn't turn out
to be human bones,

we might've unearthed
something paranormal.

So since we found
these bones unexpectedly,

we're going to take them

to the Paulding County
Sheriff's Office.

Hopefully, their experts
can tell us what they are.

There it is.

Oh, okay.

No wonder they upgraded.

I'm going to pull in
straight on.

So we have just arrived
at the new Paulding Jail.

We're going to go in
and talk to the front desk

and kind of tell them how
we found these bones and... yeah.

Yeah, let's do it.

All right.

All right.
Shall we?

All right.

You nervous?

Excited.
I hope we get some answers.

I hope he can tell us, like,
right off the bat.

Yeah, this must be it.

Yeah, I need
to talk to a deputy.

I have a question about

some bones we found
in a basement.

Okay.
Can I get your name, please?

Jack Osbourne.
Come on in.

I'll get the house deputies.
Thank you.

Okay.
Thank you.

So we went in there.

We sat with one of the deputies,

who took a report.

We gave the breakdown

of kind of what had happened,
how we found them.

He himself couldn't identify
them as animal or human.

He was like,
"I don't know."

He sent a picture to a doctor,

and the doctor was like,

"Yeah, I can't tell
what they are."

Mm.

So we left the bones with them,

and he said he's going to
come photograph

where we found them right now

and most likely send them off

to the crime lab here in Ohio.

Once we're parked here,

we'll get set up
for the night investigation.

Okay.
Let's do it.

To be continued.

We are prepping
for the night investigation,

running cables, getting all
the cameras situated and placed.

We're setting up
the third floor right now,

making sure
every angle is covered.

There's a lot of rooms up here

that are supposedly haunted
by Sheriff Keeler.

This is a really great case,
too,

to bring in Michelle Belanger.

She is a psychic medium,

and we worked with her many,
many times

and always been blown away
by her work.

And because there are

so many different pieces
of activity happening here,

it might be good
to bring in Michelle

so she can really hone in and
maybe see through some of that.

She'll just be able to feel
what she feels

and hopefully
translate that to us.

You're set up upstairs?
Just about.

Last night, I got a text
from Shelly saying,

just us being here,

she feels like
it's activated some stuff, so...

We literally knocked into
the wall and dug up dirt

that hasn't been disturbed
for how long,

and how many secrets
are within that dirt?

All right.

Camera 2 is angled

where Gary supposedly
committed suicide.

Camera 3 is the first-floor
jail cell looking down the hall.

Camera 4 is
second-floor jail-cell area.

Camera five is the basement,

and camera 6 is
what we call Nancy's cell

because that's where
they found the shoe.

And that is being
set up right now.

Katrina, it's Jack.
Do you read me?

How's the angle?

It's good.
You can see the whole room.

Awesome. Okay.
I'm going to come up.

I think we have
a couple missions.

Talking to Shelly,
she definitely has the things

that she wants fresh eyes on
to help her through this,

and I think, you know,
we can try our best to do that.

On top of it, though,
I'm not 100% convinced

that Nancy is here,
and so if she's not here,

then who are they talking to?

Is that something or someone
playing a trick on them

to open them up
and be vulnerable,

or is it actually Nancy?

That's one of
my biggest questions,

and the other part
is Sheriff Keeler.

Why is he still here
after all these years?

What does he want
if he wants anything?

So I think
we're pretty well-covered.

I don't think there's an area
that we haven't covered

between all these cameras,
and it's so specific

to what Shelly has experienced
in each area.

Mm-hmm.

So the basement, you know,

she keeps talking about
Nancy and something evil.

Nancy Eagleson,

she communicates with us
down here.

She was a girl who was murdered,

and they've never
found the killer.

It's never been solved.

I haven't got very far
with that.

So I think the questions we have
down there,

is it really Nancy?

If it is, why?
If it's not, who is that?

Yeah.

And what is, or who is,
the evil thing?

Yeah, 100%.

I think there's maybe
a global kind of question

that needs to be asked is
why are spirits lingering here?

Mm-hmm.

- You know, what is it about this place?
- Yeah.

I mean, granted,
if I was imprisoned here,

I would not like
to spend eternity here.

- Right.
- And so what will set them free?

Yeah.

I think based off of
Kat's experience

that we know so far,
to me, that's residual.

Yeah.

But it seemed to be
set off by something.

It felt like
the whole building was angry.

Yeah.
Right?

I mean, like, bam!
Yeah.

I had every spirit in this jail

livid with me.

But then you have
Shelly's experiences,

which she is claiming
they're all intelligent.

Yeah.

Okay.

Just so everyone knows,

she has not been told
where she is.

She's also
going to be blindfolded,

so she doesn't know
what she's investigating.

No one has briefed her.

You know, our production
has been on strict instructions

to not communicate anything

about this location to her.

All righty.
Let's do this.

Yeah, come on in.

Michelle.
Hello.

Hi.
How you doing?

I'm doing good.
Yeah?

- I'm happy I had paper on me.
- Why?

When we came in
blindfolded again,

they were asking me
questions like,

"What do you feel?
What are you picking up?"

And at first, you know,
as usual, it's just, like,

you know, a blip here,
a blip there,

and then it seemed to zero in,
and there was a building,

and it was a lot of flat
and a lot of concrete,

a lot of chain link and whatnot,

and there was a guy
who stood out.

I think I've got them oriented
the right way at this point.

The guy
that I'm just going to call

either Mr. Mirror Shades
or the big

Okay.

He's got a patch on one of...

I can't...

There's something,
but it's not, like, a...

I don't think it's as formal
as a badge.

Like, there's insignia on him,

and Mirror Shades is just...
I do not like him.

Are you just seeing him,

or do you think
he's around us right now?

I'm not sure yet.

I am not willing to say

that there is an intelligent
haunting behind him yet,

but he's definitely
left his mark.

I tried to get
a little bit of, like,

what was behind him, as well,

and that was a lot
of the chain link

and some some swoopy wire
on top and a little,

I think,
rolling chain-link gate.

Should we get you
out of the boogie wagon

and into the fray?

Sure.

All right.

We're going to make a left,
and then there's three steps.

If you want to put your hand up

just so you...
All right... can feel.

There you go.
Okay.

Now we'll just post up here
for a minute.

What I'm seeing are what look
like images and replays,

almost like snapshots.

They have left an impression.

I will also say that
some imprints are strong enough

that many people
will experience them

as hauntings.

So would you say that that's
somewhere between residual

and intelligent?

- Yeah. Yeah.
- Okay.

So we're going to go
to your left.

My immediate image
as you were saying that

is a pole in the room

and a stain of blood
on the floor,

if that has any impression

or any significance at all.

Okay.
So you're in the spot.

Okay.

Hanging.

Hanging.

This area here
is where a man named Gary

was found hanged in 1998.

However, I think
there was foul play.

And again, a quick shot of...

A quick image of feet,

and I just keep seeing them,
like, mostly off the ground,

but the toes and particularly
that crappy rubber sole,

like the very front edge of it,
just kind of scraping.

Is this an echo
or an intelligent,

still here kind of thing?

Well, I'm here

Okay.

Is this an echo
or an intelligent,

still here kind of thing?

Well, I'm here

Okay.

I would say intelligent.

Okay.

This guy has a little bit

of what I'd say
is a country drawl.

I think he died here.

I'm pretty sure he feels
he died here unfairly.

There's a lot of pain

that he still has tied
to this space.

I don't know what the odds

of her picking up on him
would be

when she kept talking about
his Southern drawl.

Like, he has an accent
that's not from here.

Yeah.
Gary was from Alabama.

She's definitely picking up
on a lot of things here

that make sense
from what we know historically

and also with
the paranormal side of it.

She taps into some oogie boogie
right there.

Yeah.

Again, just kind of lean on it.

There's that sense
of somebody who's watchful,

and I definitely get, like,
one person particularly.

It reminds me of Mirror Shades,

might be Mirror Shades, but...

watching.

I think something happened here
on his watch.

I think he is firmly convinced
that it is all their fault,

but I think that some decisions
that he made and some policies

he set were
the real flash point.

They were the stressors.

So is that why he's still here?

Yeah, I don't feel like he died
on the property,

but, like, he never got
this place out of his blood.

Can you ask Mirror Glasses
what the name Nancy means to him

or if he can hear us?

Does Nancy mean anything to you?

There's definitely
a body-language change with...

Did something bad
happen to Nancy?

Is that your fault, too?

Did you hurt her?

"No, don't be stupid.

Don't be stupid.
I wouldn't hurt her."

You've got a tie to Nancy,
don't you?

"It's their fault.
It's their fault."

Okay.

He is here because he feels
like this space

and the things
that happened here

need someone to watch out
for them, to watch after them.

But I think it's interesting
that, you know, she was, like...

She did hit on that something
that happened under his watch

that he's always felt
so bad about,

and so maybe that's part
of the reason why he stays,

because, one, that crime's
never been solved,

and, two, that was on his watch,

which I think is consistent with
what Shelly's experienced.

- Yeah. - So, it's just up here
that you feel very strongly

about the mirror-shades guy
being the spirit up here?

It doesn't feel like
he's the only one.

So there's more spirits up here?

Uh... more echoes.

Okay.
- Okay.

So, I'm gonna hand
you something.

Whoa.

Do you remember when we asked
you about a girl named Nancy?

Yep. Ow.
Okay.

Nancy was a murder victim.

Okay.

And you obviously already
picked up that we're in a jail.

Yes, we are in a jail.
Yeah.

Nancy was a murder victim.

Some people believe
Nancy is here.

Okay.

So, is there any connection
to Nancy and this person?

Okay.
Nancy, are you here?

Did you get hidden here?

It feels like there's
a cover-up around her.

She hasn't come forward to me,
but that's not unusual.

That's what I see.

Michelle very much got the sense

that there were multiple people
involved in multiple,

different types of cover-ups
within the jail,

and what we know historically is

that there has been a lot of
speculation about certain crimes

that have happened in the town,
but also in the jail.

This whole... This is wrong.

This whole space is just wrong.

Yeah.

And there's no point where
this wouldn't have been abused.

What's your vibe
about this little...

Ugh!

Hovel?

I'm surprised there aren't
bones in there.

What's your vibe
about this little...

Ugh!

Hovel?

I'm surprised there aren't
bones in there.

- Why do you say that?
- I...

It feels like somebody
was walled up in there.

I think one of the common
threads that Michelle picked up

in pretty much every location
we took her to

was that there
were secrets hidden here.

I need you to see if any of
these look familiar to you.

That guy.
Who's that guy?

That's Mirror Shades.
That's Mirror Shades?

The

The chin and everything.

That looks like Mirror Shades.

Actually even looks like
what you sketched.

Yeah.

It's interesting because she hit
on a lot of specifics

that Shelly forewarned us
about... Sheriff Keeler.

The other significant spirit
that she hit on

would be who
everyone calls Gary,

who was a real person
who passed away in 1998,

and she seemed to nail
down the idea

that there are intelligent,

but also residual entities
that reside within the jail.

This is Sheriff Keeler.
Okay.

He was the sheriff here from,
I believe, '52 to '72,

and he would've been the sheriff
when Nancy was murdered.

- Okay.
- So, again, you know,

it plays into this idea
of the paranormal.

If these are spirits
that are still here

and have something to say,
maybe it's their truths

and that we're just
the only people

to really step in here
and try to listen.

Sounds like you got
a murder mystery.

- Possibly.
- Yeah, there's a little bit, for sure.

Actually, you hit on a lot.

- We'll fill you in as we walk upstairs.
- Cool.

But Jack and I definitely have
our work cut out for us.

All right, guys.

Time for the night
investigation.

I believe the place
is locked down.

So, there seems to be a lot
of paranormal

activity in this jail.

A lot of people claim
that things get physical here

with these spirits,
so basic pushing,

scratching, the whole nine.

So, where do you want
to go first?

Well, I think, you know,

probably third floor
for you to start.

Yeah.
And I'm gonna go to Gary.

I'm gonna go see
if I can get him riled up.

Oh, okay.
Yeah.

You'll be in the cells.

Yeah, first floor.
I'll be in the living quarters.

Stay on radio contact.

All right.
Let's get stuck in.

Game on.

The next step is for Katrina
and I

to maybe split off a little bit

and do some independent
investigating,

as well as join up and try

and get to the bottom
of some of this.

Let's go.

I'd be curious to have some kind
of interaction with the sheriff

because I'm a part of
the law-enforcement community.

I'm not gonna provoke him,

but, you know, I might
tussle with him a little.

Sheriff, coming on up.

Hello?

Were you locked in here?

I want to talk to whoever
is still in this prison,

whoever is still in this jail.

Can you make some sort of noise
so I can hear where you are?

I want to talk to you, so I have
a device that I can turn on,

and you can communicate with it.

You can tell me what it is
you want to say

'cause I can't always hear you.

Sheriff, I'm a sergeant

with a department
out of California,

as well as a paranormal
investigator,

among other things.

Just come here to get some
kind of interaction

with you,
see what you got to say.

If you'd like to come over

and check out my badge,
you're welcome to.

I don't know if you're into
that kind of thing, but I know,

for me, I always like to see
other departments' badges.

Ours is pretty cool.

What was that?

You hear that, Scott?

This is a GeoPort.

So, essentially it's like
your telephone to the dead.

Spirits or energies can
manipulate those waves

and frequencies

to make sounds and words
that we can hear audibly,

but it should just be
gibberish coming out.

Should be nothing inaudible.

So, I'm gonna try it here first

because they've had a lot
of experiences in this area.

Okay.

Oh, okay.

Phew.

Okay.

Hello?

Can you tell me
what you're in jail for?

You have to talk
through this device.

Yeah.

Do you want me
to come back here?

Tell me when I find you.

Is it this room?

Not this room?

Is it this room?

Almost there.

Not in this one?

So, the way that this
works is, this machine here

lets us know
when you're near us.

It emits its own energy field,
like a radio signal.

All right, Sheriff Keeler.

I'm just gonna ask you
some questions,

and...

if you feel like
communicating with us,

just come over
and touch my badge.

If the answer is yes,
just touch the badge,

and we'll be able
to communicate with you.

I'm gonna hit record on this.

All right.

Just move this here.

If you are Sheriff Keeler,

can you make one noise for yes

and two noises for no?

Do you know anything about
the Nancy Eagleson murder

that you didn't tell anyone?

Were you keeping secrets
about it?

Why did you feel the work you
were doing was above the law?

Are you proud of the work
you did as sheriff?

Let's play this back.

If you are Sheriff Keeler,

can you make one noise for yes

and two noises for no?

Do you know anything about
the Nancy Eagleson murder

that you didn't tell anyone?

Were you keeping secrets
about it?

I don't know.
It was, like, "dun-dun."

Sounded like two.

Why did you feel the work you
were doing was above the law?

Are you proud of the work
you did as sheriff?

Kind of sounded like two.

Yeah.

What about Sheriff Keeler?

He's all over the place?

Yeah.

What about right here?

Gary?

"Gary is here."

Gary?

"Gary is here."

This area here is
where a man named Gary

was found hanged in 1998.

Gary, why are you still here?

Did you take your own life?

I think so.

Gary, why did you
take your own life?

Secrets.

What secrets?

Gary, did you hang yourself?

"Yes."

"I was hung."

Gary, did somebody do it to you?

"I had another reason."

What was your other reason?

I don't understand that.
What was your other reason?

Gary, I have to go if you're
not gonna talk to me.

And then your story
will never get out.

I mean, there were some things
coming through.

It seemed, like,
really disjointed,

really gargly for the most part,

but the things
that did come through

came through pretty clear.

You know, there's a couple
of things in there

that seem to mesh with Gary.

I'm wondering if it's a good
time to go down in the basement

and just do it.

You know, blindfold, earmuffs,

run a recorder.

Mm-hmm.

Sheriff Keeler,

you can give me
a message if you want.

There's a way for you
to communicate

with that electronic device.

You're already making it pop.

Manipulate it and say something.

But if you're not
gonna leave here,

the least you can do
is tell us why you're here.

Are you guilty of something?

Do you feel you did
not do an adequate job?

See what this has to say.

Are you guilty of something?

Do you feel
you did not do an adequate job?

"No."

If I'm just talking to
the camera guy or my producer,

you don't hear these,
like, static pops,

but whenever I ask a question

and kind of throw it out
to any alleged spirits,

it comes through
in a really interesting way.

I get these pops,
and it would appear that we,

once again, were having
some really amazing results

with this as an EVP recorder.

I do believe it is
Sheriff Keeler.

I think he was okay with me
being here.

So, I'm gonna hunker myself
down in the scariest place

in the building
and see what happens...

which I'm not really
looking forward to,

to be honest with you, and it
takes a lot to get me scared.

All right, Sheriff.

I'm heading down to
the communication center.

You know, if that was you,
feel free to do it again.

We can continue
this conversation.

Okay.

I want to talk to whoever
has been tormenting people

down here.

Were you alive once?

Nancy, are you here?

What up?

Yeah.

Really?
Yeah.

All right.

I'm gonna try this experiment
right now.

Essentially, it's...

We're doing kind of, like,
a sensory deprivation

to see if it raises
our intuitive levels

to maybe feel things
on another level.

She's going in.

Can you tell me
what your name is?

If you were a prisoner,
can you tell me

what you went to jail for?

Can you tell me anything
about why you're still here?

Can you toss something
or touch me somehow?

That was weird.
Did you guys...

- Hear a moan?
- Yeah, I heard a full-on moan.

Okay, I'm taking my...
Katrina, can you hear me?

Oh, God. You scared me.

Hey, what's up?

So, I'm in the control booth
right now,

and right before
you took your headphones on,

literally everyone in here
heard a moaning.

Really?

Yeah, coming through
the IRB, like.

'Cause we can hear your mic.

Well, okay,
I'm officially scared.

Who am I talking to?

"The boss."

Who's the boss?

What's my business?

I'm looking for you.

What do you know?

What secrets are you holding?

Can you tell me the secret?

"My secret?" Yes.

Your secret.

What do you know
about Nancy's death?

Do you know who's responsible?

Investigate, investigate.
Yeah.

Are you Sheriff Keeler?

"Have you found Jack?"

Are you asking about
Jack Osbourne?

Who committed the murder?

Hey, Katrina.

Whoa, okay.

Yes.

I'm gonna come down
if you don't mind.

Yeah, yeah, come on down.

Okay, so, Jack is coming down

to join me here
in the creepy basement.

I heard some little shufflings.

Definitely a weird feeling,

like things
were creeping up on me

being in that
uncomfortable space.

Who committed the murder?

So I don't know if there's
some energy

lingering around this area,

or is it actually Nancy?
I'm not gonna lie.

It's really scary down here.

Hearing my name come through
the GeoPort is really unnerving.

With all the activity
in this building

and how aggressive
these spirits can be,

it's scary to think that
they're calling me out.

So, really weird.

Whenever I stepped up
to Nancy's cell...

Mm-hmm.

Is when things on the
GeoPort started to get clearer.

Your name came through.
I heard.

- Yeah, and it was pretty clear.
- Yeah.

"Have you found Jack?"

Honestly, it's, like,
the first time

I've been scared
since I've been here.

Really?

I was very uncomfortable
doing this.

Upstairs, even when I was trying

to communicate with the sheriff,

who I do think is
an intelligent entity...

Yeah.
I was getting some results

during the EVP,
where I get those static, like,

pops in between questions.

Hmm.

So, I feel like
we're running out of time.

How do you feel about trying
an experiment?

- What experiment?
- The sensory-deprivation one.

With me?
Uh-huh.

See, I wanted to do that,
but in the second floor.

Do you want to try it
in the jail?

Yeah, I'll do it in the
jail because I'm thinking...

My logic is,
well, they thought maybe

the sheriff
wasn't giving me a hard time

- because I'm a cop.
- Oh.

And he's probably gonna
give me a level of respect.

Yeah.

Versus if I'm in the jail area,
and I'm like, "Hey, I'm a cop.

You know,
give me your best shot."

I think that's a good idea.
Try it.

Okay?
Let's try it.

I think I'm gonna try my hand
at the third floor, then.

Cool.

Since we haven't been up to
the second-floor cellblock yet,

I'm gonna head up there
and see if we can maybe interact

with whatever intelligent
spirits might be up there.

Sheriff Keeler.

If you're up here,
I need to talk to you.

All right. So, I'm heading up to
the third floor right now.

We have an audio device,
a recorder.

See if we can have
a conversation

with the good old sheriff here.

Here's what's gonna happen.

Got my REM pod right there.

I'm gonna place my badge
next to it.

I'm in where the prisoners
would have been, clearly.

It's jail cells.

I'm gonna do some
sensory deprivation.

I'm hoping that this is
a bit of a trigger item.

If there is any spirits here
in the jail cell

on the second floor,
I very much would appreciate it

if you could let yourself
be known.

I have a device in the center
of the room.

There's a green light.

If you go up to it and touch
that green light or touch

the antenna
that sticks off of it,

it's a way for us
to communicate.

It works through energy fields.

Sheriff Keeler.

Been told by multiple people

that you're still up here.
People have seen you.

People have talked to you.

Michelle was very much
getting information from you.

Everyone seems to think
you have a secret.

Keeler, were you
hiding information?

Can you knock once
for no and twice for yes?

It's hard to get a beat up here.

You know something
is off-kilter, right?

Like, you walk into a fun house.

You can't really get
your bearings straight.

But it's not so off where
you feel like you're in danger,

and I wonder if it's more about
when you step in here,

you're literally stepping into
a time capsule of secrets

and murders
and suicides and cover-ups.

Over anything else?

Because everything
has been contained here,

and if there really are secrets,
they haven't gotten out.

Is anyone here in the jail
right now?

If you want to make yourself
be known...

make a bang,

slam a door,
move something, tug on me.

You know, if you touch
an officer while you're in here,

you get thrown in the hole.

Oh, this is weird.

Serious?

All right. I'm gonna go sensory
deprivation for a little bit.

Oh, this is weird.

Serious?

Oof.

Something legitimately just came
and tugged the back of my shirt

while I was sat there.

I'm sweating.

Did you guys see that?

I did not see anything
behind you.

Yeah, I'm gonna come back down.

That freaked me the out.

That was weird.

I mean, it literally felt like
someone came up behind me.

And it wasn't like this.

It was like...
Really?

Yeah, like, it was a tug.
I mean, we saw...

I didn't see
anything behind you,

but it's up right now if you
want to go through the playback.

I mean, the fact that my name
gets called out,

then I got grabbed,
it's kind of scary.

Katrina, can you hear me?

Yeah, go ahead.

I was just on the second floor,
and I just got grabbed.

Where are you now?

I'm in the control room.

Okay, I'm coming to you.

Hey.
Hey.

- Are you looking at footage?
- Yeah, I'm looking at it now.

- Yeah, it was like this.
- Were you...

I was sat there,
and it was like...

But, like, that strong.
Oh, a double tug?

Yeah, it was tug, tug.

Well, what do you think?

I don't know.

Do you think it was
Sheriff Keeler's ghost?

Yes?

Like, what else could it be?

Hmm.

Is that your first time
being touched?

Now that I think about it,
probably.

That apparent.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I was calling out.

I was asking for some kind of
interaction,

some kind of response,
and all of a sudden,

I felt, clear as day, someone
tugging on the back of my shirt.

Serious?

I honestly don't know
what happened

when I was up
on the second floor.

It could've been
an angry inmate spirit.

It could've been Sheriff Keeler.

It could've been
the laundry list of spirits

that allegedly roam those cells.

This place does have
some paranormal activity.

I do not think there's
a portal here,

and I do think that a lot of
the activity here is residual.

I will always remember
this place

'cause this is the first time
I've ever been kind of

physically contacted
by something.

- Hi, guys.
- Hello.

- Howdy.
- Come and take a seat right next to us.

- Yes.
- We survived the night.

- Yeah.
- Yes.

It was an interesting one.

We brought in this woman
named Michelle Belanger.

She's a world-renowned psychic.

Oh, sure.
One of the best.

So, she was in our van,

and she started drawing
what she was seeing.

There was a guy who stood out
that I'm just gonna call

either Mr. Mirror Shades
or the Big

I'll give this to you.

She kept saying,
"Yeah, there's here

with mirrored glasses, and
he's wearing a brown uniform."

The description basically
was Sheriff Keeler.

It's a confirmation.
I'm getting goose bumps

'cause I'm pretty sure
he's here myself.

When we took her into
the first-floor cell area,

she picked up on Gary.

Specifically, she picked up
on the hanging.

Hanging.

A quick image
of feet mostly off the ground,

but the toes scraping.

He is surly.

She was describing...
I think, like, this was, like,

- the end of his rope.
- His life is

He's always the victim.

She said there's a lot
of anger associated with him.

Oh, my.

And when we were
doing research on him,

and we pulled his obituary,

there didn't really seem to be
anything suspicious about it.

Right.

So I think all of that kind
of leads to, you know,

probably no foul play as far
as his death is concerned,

but, you know, he very much
still is holding on to,

"It wasn't my fault.

My life wasn't supposed
to be like this."

Michelle, we took her
down to the basement

where we found those bones.

She walked past it,
and she said,

"I wouldn't be surprised
if there were bones in there."

Wow.

And you know we did
find bones down there.

We're having them analyzed
because we can't make that call.

We're not doctors. I mean,
just to be on the safe side.

To determine if
they're animal or human.

Michelle, we took her upstairs,
and she's like,

"This is where
Mirrored Glasses is."

We did give her the name Nancy,

and she was having
a conversation

with Sheriff Keeler at the time

'cause she very much believed
that's who was here.

And she asked point-blank,
"Did you do something to her?"

And he said,
"Of course not."

There's definitely
a body-language change with...

Did something bad
happen to Nancy?

Is that your fault, too?

Did you hurt her?

"No, don't be stupid.
I wouldn't hurt her."

Michelle didn't pick up
on Nancy.

What she was picking up
on, though, it was weird

because it was a lot of what
you guys had kind of told us

and what kind of the sprinkled
rumors in the town were.

The whole truth
was not getting out

and that Keeler
was part of that.

She mentioned, though,
one of the reasons

she thinks Keeler sticks around

is because there were things
that happened on his watch

that shouldn't have happened,

and that's something he's
holding very close to his chest

and can't let go of.
Okay.

And she believes
this is his place.

But he didn't have anything
to do with who killed Nancy?

Mnh-mnh.
No.

What we can take away from,
like, our experiences

and, you know,
Michelle's psychic walk-through

is that obviously
this place is active.

I was in the basement alone.

I heard little shuffling
behind me.

Who committed the murder?

I think if you start putting
all of that together,

this building
has intelligent elements,

and it looks like
it has some residual stuff.

There's a lot of secrets

surrounding a lot
of these stories

about the people who were here,
and I almost wonder

if that's part of the reason
why they're still here

or why they sometimes
try to communicate,

because their truth
hasn't been told yet.

Sure.
And if you think about a jail,

I mean, that's the whole point,
is, you get shut up,

and you get put away, and then
nobody ever knows your story.

So maybe they're still here,

and they still feel like
they need to communicate.

Jack had a very
personal experience.

Yeah. You know, I did get
touched at one point.

Actually, it felt like someone
came up behind my shirt

and, like, gave two,
like, sharp,

short, like, ba-ba!

Like, pull on the back
of my shirt.

We've reviewed
all the footage of it.

You can't see anything behind
me. Nothing, yeah.

Oh, my gosh. See, now
I got goose bumps.

Yeah.
That's something.

It's a lot to process.

It's a lot more information
than I had.

I hope what we've been able
to give you guys at least

is more tools to get some more
of these stories out

that have been just buried
and forgotten about on purpose.

Oh, absolutely.

Everything helps.
Mm-hmm.

And with the bones
we found down there,

it might be why you're having
such intense

paranormal activity down there.

I mean, if you think
about it, too...

If they were keeping
secrets in life,

I mean, would they necessarily
spill the beans?

Yeah.
Like, you know?

No. So it might be a couple
years until you really start

to get those answers
you're looking for.

And that's how it's been.

We get a little pinch here,
and it might be months,

and somebody will say
something else, and...

Yeah.
We just got to keep putting

the puzzle pieces together.

Do you guys feel good?
We do.

Yeah?
We do.

Maybe with the help of all
of them here,

we're gonna figure out
what happened to Nancy and...

- Bring some peace to the
unfinished stories here. - Absolut... Yes.

Exactly.
Yes.

Looking at the bigger picture,

I wouldn't label this a portal
based off of what we've seen.

There's a long-standing thought
in the paranormal world

that if you haven't been able
to finish your business,

if you haven't been able to say

all the things
you were supposed to say

while you were alive
that you're kind of doomed

to wander the Earth
until that truth comes out.

Whoa. That's bones.

With all the places we go,
is that part of the reason

some of these pieces
of activity are happening?

Are they still trying to find
their voice

and speak their truth
or stay to keep their secrets?

I would like to figure out what
those are before we proceed.

To be continued.

OPJ pickups, take 1, marker.

So, since the investigation
at Old Paulding Jail,

it's been about 3 months or so.

Just kind of talk about what happened
during this investigation.

Talk about what happened.

The sheriff.
The sheriff.

- That seems to be the most
prevalent haunting... - Yes.

Of the jail
'cause he probably spent

more time there than anyone.

Yeah.
I think it was his jail.

He was very well-known
in that town.

I think he ran
a very tight ship,

and I think if there's anything
to holding on to pieces of life

after you die, then why
wouldn't he hold on to that?

And the saga of the bones
continue.

So, it's been about 3
months since our investigation

at the Old Paulding Jail.

And the saga
of the bones continue.

The bones that were discovered
have gone

on a bit of a journey.

- See that?
- Yeah.

But that's cut.

That's been cut.

Because of how clean it is?
Yeah.

- Do you think a rodent could
have done that? - No.

We dropped the bones off
at the sheriff's department.

They took a report.

Then they sent them off
to their lab, allegedly,

and then some weeks later, they
sent the bones back to Shelly,

saying that,
"Nothing to see here.

They're just animal bones.
No big deal."

And then Shelly called us

and wanted them
examined somewhere else.

So then,
that's when we were like,

"Let's send them out
for independent,

you know, examination."

So we just sent a picture
of the bones

to a very well-respected
forensic anthropologist

by the name
of Dr. Bytheway,

and she was like, "Yeah, from
that picture, they look human,"

and she said that she might be
able to even date these bones.

So, yeah, we're sending them
out to her in Texas,

and she's gonna be doing
a proper examination.

Then it raises a lot
of questions...

Why are there human bones
in that basement to begin with?

Whose bones are they?
Why are they there?

But I think, honestly,
Shelly should speak for herself,

so why don't we get her
on the phone?

Okay.
Let's call Shelly.

All right.

Hello.
Hi.

What's the story on your end

about these bones
with the police?

One of the new sheriff
deputies called me and said,

"Well, we'd like to pick
the bones back up from you."

I said, "Why is that?"

And the deputy said
that the coroner

wanted to take another
look at them

to make sure
he didn't make a mistake.

Mm.

And I have a feeling
if I turn them over,

for one reason or another,
they're gonna keep them.

If they deem one of them
to be human,

they're gonna make it
a crime scene.

- Mm. - And there'd be
an investigation, so...

Well, we sent a picture
of the bones

- to a notable forensic anthropologist.
- Uh-huh.

And she said,
by looking at them,

some of them look human,

but, you know,
with your permission,

we would like to send
those bones down to Texas

to her laboratory.

Oh, that'd be fantastic.

I will keep you posted
on the analysis we get.

Oh, fantastic.
All righty.

Well, listen,
we'll keep you up to date

on what's going on.

Okay, absolutely.

Thank you so much
for your help on this.

No worries.
You're welcome.

We'll talk to you soon.

All right.
Bye.

Bye for now.

That's interesting.
I didn't even think

about her theory on that.

Possibly they're trying to make
a crime scene out of this

to look for other evidence.

Did we literally stir
something up?

We were digging.
I mean, we were digging.

We were there.

We brought things
that were in there

for a very long time
out of the building.

Being touched in the jail,
I question it so much.

I'm like, "Was I?
Wasn't I?"

In the moment, I'm like,

"Oh, my God, that was not"...

I don't know, though.

All I know is,
something happened to me.

It felt like I was touched,
and it scared me.

As paranormal investigators,
we try and answer questions...

Our own personal questions,

the questions of people who have
invited us in to investigate.

And I think this investigation,

we managed to button up
some things,

but also open doors
to more questions.

Who are these people that are
trapped in that jail, and why?

You know, I like to think
that maybe the truth

could maybe set
some of these people free.

I think the whole point
of paranormal investigating

that gets lost
in translation a lot

is that it doesn't matter
if it's paranormal or not.

We're looking for the truth.