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'..goes by the name
of Nigel Dempster.
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'All that and much more on TVAM,
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'but for the moment, on
behalf of all of us here
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'at our studios at
Thames, good night.'
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Mum?
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Hi, Mum!
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Mum!
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Mum?
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Mum?!
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Mum!
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Mum!
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What are you doing, Colin?
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Looking for dishwasher salt. I
could've sworn I bought some.
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Want me to pick some up?
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Er, yeah. Would you?
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Hamish Campbell.
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Er, DCI Colin Sutton
to see Hamish Campbell.
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He's this way.
Just through there.
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Thank you.
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..apprehension of
this dangerous man
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without regard to
his personal safety
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was in the finest tradition
of the Metropolitan Police.
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Apologies - commendation
write-up. Hello, Colin.
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Morning, sir.
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Bloody amazing, what these
young PCs will do for us.
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Yes. Well done,
again, on Bellfield.
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Oh, it's team effort,
sir, thank you.
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Great work.
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What do you know about
Operation Minstead?
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A long string of burglaries
and rapes of the elderly
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dating back to the
'90s. 1992, 17 years.
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The press called him
the Night Stalker,
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and he's recently
become active again.
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Haven't we got his DNA?
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Yeah, but he's not in the
system, so we can't ID him.
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DNA tells us he's of West
Indian origin, but that's it.
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Our new commissioner has suggested
that we make the Night Stalker
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a priority of the Command.
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Right, and when a new
commissioner suggests...
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Oh... he thinks
there's an impression
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that the Met drags its heels
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when it comes to
serial sex offenders.
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Well, after Worboys,
I can't blame him.
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Given that you have some
experience with high-profile,
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serial sex offenders...
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well, I thought you could
bring something to the table.
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Right. So do you want my
team to take a look at it
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or for me to review
what they've got?
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The latter. Definitely the latter.
Simon Morgan remains as SIO.
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Didn't Serious Crime
just do a review?
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Yes, they did, and there's been
at least three before that.
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This guy's good, Colin - 17 years
and he's never left a fingerprint,
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never let a witness
see his face.
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Years go by, no offences.
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Teams get broken up,
budgets get re-allocated,
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and then he starts again.
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It's a ten-year investigation.
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They might be missing something
that's staring them in the face.
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That's ten years of
feathers to ruffle.
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I-I know you're retiring
in a few months.
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I just need you to take a look.
In and out in a couple of weeks.
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Well, come on, give us a clue.
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I want you to dig out everything
you can on Operation Minstead
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and email it to me.
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They're not lumbering us with
that? No, just me for the moment.
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Right. I'm just
gonna have a look.
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A fresh pair of
eyes and all that.
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But I do need
those files, Clive.
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Oh, you must be the
analyst? DCI Colin Sutton.
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Richard Moore.
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I'm here to see Simon Morgan.
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Another review,
is it? Yes and no.
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Er, incident rooms,
straight ahead.
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Thank you, Richard.
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DCI Sutton?
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DI Nathan Eason.
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Colin Sutton. I'm here
to see Simon Morgan.
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Yeah, he's not here, I'm afraid.
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What d'you mean?
We're meeting at 12.
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I know. He left me to
be the welcome party.
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We had another one
last night. Oh, right.
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What, and Simon's at the
scene, is he? He is, yeah.
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OK, er, well, there's nothing like
learning on the job, is there?
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I'm sure he won't be long.
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Don't worry, Nathan, I won't get
under anyone's feet. Let's go.
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All right.
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DCI Colin Sutton. He's with me.
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Simon Morgan. Colin Sutton.
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I was hoping to brief you properly
before you came to a scene,
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but no matter.
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The victim's a Sandra
Nelson, 82-year-old woman.
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She's been taken to
hospital. Is she hurt?
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TBC. She's traumatised,
like so many before her.
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Might not be able to give
us a reliable account.
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Original concrete path,
original front door
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with inlaid panes of glass
intact, a nice shade of mid-blue.
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Hmm. Sends a signal.
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Yeah. "Old person lives here".
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To which our man
is fully attuned.
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Yeah, well, practise
makes perfect, I suppose.
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Forensics reckons he was hiding
in that corner all night,
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hour after hour, just
waiting for his moment.
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He's leaving DNA,
but he doesn't care.
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He's not in the system
and he knows it.
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How long have you had it?
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The Night Stalker's DNA.
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1992.
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Look, er, no offence,
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but that's a name
coined by the press
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to sell papers and scare people. I
never use it, neither do my team.
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Minstead Man is how
we refer to him.
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Right. I'll know for next time.
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Two years ago, he stopped dead after
the case featured on Crimewatch,
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and then, a month ago,
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he hit three homes in three weeks,
still targeting elderly women.
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And where were those offences?
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Clara-Jane Proctor, 74, was
sexually assaulted in the house
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where she was born in
Birch Avenue, Shirley.
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Then a week later,
Lynn Marie Kerr, 69,
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a former headmistress from
Coulsdon, was burgled.
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Two nights after that, he moves
up to Croydon. Phylis Carlton, 71,
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a widow that had just
buried her husband.
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Can't always leave DNA, can he?
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So what other markers tell
you it's Minstead Man?
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Well, top five would be age of
victims, light bulbs removed,
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phone lines cut,
balaclava, gloves...
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He's covered the PIR
light again, boss.
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DS Neville Hylton,
DCI Colin Sutton.
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Let's have a look. This way.
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Stops the motion-sensitive
lights coming on
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when he's stalking the
property. Just up there.
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Last time, he used a glove,
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time before was a broken branch,
but not from a nearby tree.
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He comes prepared.
That's an understatement.
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It's hard to
reconcile, isn't it?
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The control and the planning with
the depravity of what he does?
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Yeah, it is.
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Is it OK if I speak to
the victim some time?
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Well, as long as the FLO's
happy. It's her call. Yeah.
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I'll brief you properly
back at Lewisham.
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Neville, wanna show
me this corner, mate?
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OK, it's this way, boss.
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We found some more cigarette
butts like last time...
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Is he in pain?
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Could've bailed years ago
on a full injury pay out.
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Altercation with a prisoner, left
him with massive spinal injuries.
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Nathan.
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DCI Colin Sutton, DC
Patricia Henry, our FLO.
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Good to meet you. You, too.
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Colin's joining us for a few days,
giving us the benefit of his wisdom.
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Well, I wouldn't go that far.
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No offence, but I'm not sure you'll
get your head around this case
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in a few days.
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How's Sandra?
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She suffers from dementia, so we
haven't got much beyond the usual -
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balaclava, torch, the opening
one-word demand for money.
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Do you think she's
been sexually abused?
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Don't know. We just
swabbed for semen and DNA.
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Poor woman. She kept asking
the nurse what she was doing.
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She did mention something we've seen
in a few other Minstead offences -
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he took her pulse.
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Any idea why he'd do that?
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Well, one time, the victim feigned
injury so he felt her pulse,
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said, "Nothing's wrong with you"
and punched her to the floor.
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Would you mind if I had
a quick word with her?
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Yes, I would.
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She needs rest,
and with respect,
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you wouldn't elicit
anything from her I haven't.
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Fair enough.
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Bit of a wasted trip.
For you, I mean.
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Oh, I wouldn't say
that. Oh, no matter.
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Almost all the interviews with
the victims were recorded.
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I warn you, they're
not easy viewing.
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No, I understand. Thank you.
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A good number of his victims
have already passed away.
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Janet, for instance.
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She suffered a perforated
bowel during her assault
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and died shortly after.
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Did he kill her? Not legally.
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But in every other way...
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Yeah.
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I could've left
this case years ago.
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Probably should have.
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I would've had a very
different career, but...
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Yeah, I understand.
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Far as I'm concerned,
he's a serial killer.
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Perhaps we should, er,
get to the investigation.
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I've got a few
preliminary questions.
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Sorry, no time. I've got
a thing at the Yard now.
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What? A budget meeting.
Pain in the arse.
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I thought you were gonna brief
me fully back at the station?
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Well, with respect, if you
hadn't gone to the hospital,
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we would've had time.
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Team meeting in the morning,
my place. Your place?
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The best way for you to catch up.
Nathan will give you the address.
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Meantime, I'll
collate some files,
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give you a chance to get
a proper handle on things.
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Thank you.
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You got a minute?
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Erm, yeah.
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At the scene, I noticed you
were running a full cordon
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with a PC signing
everyone in and out,
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and you were canvassing statements,
doing a bit of house-to-house.
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That's right.
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Oh, it's just that
that level of response
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you normally reserve
for a murder.
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Well, we're just trying
to be thorough, Colin.
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But you haven't got the budget or
the manpower for a murder inquiry,
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nothing near.
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You know how it is.
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Parts of CID have a
mindset that says offences
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that aren't murder are
lesser crimes, even rape.
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And that's what we're
guarding against.
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That's very laudable in theory,
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but if you haven't
got the resources...
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Yeah, well, it's not
been easy, I grant you.
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Why don't I buy you a
proper cup of coffee?
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Might even run to a biscuit.
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OK.
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So would you say that
having Minstead Man's DNA
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is viewed as your
strongest lead? Yeah.
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And so that's the focus
of the investigation?
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Absolutely, yeah.
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All right. So what's
your screening criteria?
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How'd you prioritise
who gets tested?
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Well, the base level of our
pool is he's a black male
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whose DNA isn't on the database
and who was aged 18 to 40 in 1992.
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That's hundreds of
thousands of people.
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Yeah, it is. That's not
a pool, it's an ocean.
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Well, we then prioritise
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based on intelligence gained
from witness statements.
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OK. Can you give me an example?
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Yeah.
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One victim said she heard
a motorcycle start up
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right after the suspect left.
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So men in the pool who own
motorbikes became a priority?
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For a time, yeah.
Any more examples?
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Someone noticed there'd been
a rash of offences in streets
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where satellite TV was
recently installed. OK.
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Thinking is, if he's an engineer,
he'd be hidden in plain sight -
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he could perform reconnaissance
and select targets unnoticed.
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Right. And what about
the swabbing operation?
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How many DNA samples
are you taking a week?
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Oh, well, that-that varies.
245
00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,559
I think we're out
today, actually.
246
00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,559
Really? Do you know
what'd be a help?
247
00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,560
If I could tag along and see
how these things are done.
248
00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,559
Kieron Gould?
249
00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,559
DS Neville Hylton, DC Adam
Spier, DCI Colin Sutton.
250
00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,559
What d'you want?
251
00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,559
Er, we need you to step
back inside, please.
252
00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,920
It won't take a minute.
What won't take a minute?
253
00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:37,560
We need to take
your DNA, Kieron.
254
00:18:37,561 --> 00:18:39,559
We need to eliminate
you from our inquiries.
255
00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,559
Inquiries into what?
What's the charge?
256
00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,560
There's no charge, Kieron.
Well, what's the case, then?
257
00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,559
It's a serial rapist.
258
00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:49,560
Fuck off. Seriously?
259
00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,559
Why is my name on your list?
260
00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,559
I can't divulge that.
261
00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,079
I can't help you. I'll miss my
appointment. No, you won't, mate.
262
00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,919
You just stop arguing and
comply and everyone's a winner.
263
00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,559
Do I have to comply?
Do you have a warrant?
264
00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,559
No, we don't. It's voluntary.
265
00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:09,560
In that case, get lost.
266
00:19:09,561 --> 00:19:11,399
Well, why take that attitude?
267
00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,559
Eh? If you've got nothing to
hide, what're you worried about?
268
00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,559
It's a question of
trust... or lack of it.
269
00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,560
See, if you grew up around
here, you'd know what I mean.
270
00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:24,600
You would, anyway.
271
00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,399
Hello, Clive. 'How
was it, boss?'
272
00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,759
I'm still getting
the lay of the land.
273
00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,560
'Got time for a beer?' All
right. Yeah, just a quick one.
274
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,760
'Boss?' Clive, do
a car check for me?
275
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:18,600
Cheers, Sarah.
276
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,559
Hello, Clive. All right, Guv?
277
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:24,759
You all right?
278
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,760
Yeah. Volvo is registered
to a Bob Stiles.
279
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,559
Not what you were expecting?
280
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,080
Er, no. Not quite.
Thanks, though.
281
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,400
Don't you think it's a bit
weird? As in convenient?
282
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,559
Sorry. Long day.
283
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,559
Well, I mean, there's a fair few
other DCIs they could've asked
284
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,239
apart from you, Guv.
285
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:50,760
Yeah, I suppose so.
286
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,559
I mean, what is the Minstead
inquiry at this point?
287
00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,559
It's a black hole, decade-plus
train wreck, poison chalice.
288
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,559
You think someone's trying
to poison me, Clive?
289
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,559
I don't think you take
a scalp like Bellfield
290
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:07,560
without making some enemies.
291
00:22:07,561 --> 00:22:09,559
That sounds a bit paranoid.
292
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,560
Maybe.
293
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,559
I can't help feeling that
this is just the start.
294
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,239
They get rid of you and then
they dismantle the team...
295
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,559
Get rid of me? I'll
be back in two weeks.
296
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,760
..just because we smashed
it, because they can.
297
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,920
What, you think I got Minstead
as some sort of payback?
298
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:33,560
I dunno.
299
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,560
Long day.
300
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,559
Well, you did say I should've
retired after the trial.
301
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,560
Quit while I was ahead.
302
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,560
Look, I get it, Hamish asked,
you can't exactly say no.
303
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,560
But?
304
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,560
But...
305
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,559
..I think you should
critique what's wrong
306
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,559
and I think you should get out. The
moment you start offering ideas,
307
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,559
you are sucked in
on the worst terms.
308
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,560
You have all the
responsibility and zero clout.
309
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,400
Then you will go
down with the ship.
310
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,559
OK, I'll give you a call.
311
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,560
All right. I gotta go, bye. Bye.
312
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:44,599
A bit unorthodox, isn't it?
313
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,399
No, we often meet at
the guvnor's house,
314
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,559
you know, on account
of his back issues.
315
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,919
Did you chase up that
Volvo I saw last night?
316
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,559
I did, yeah.
317
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,559
Turns out it was being
driven by the head
318
00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,559
of the local Neighbourhood
Watch, a chap called Alan Wilson.
319
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,559
OK.
320
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,559
He operates a scheme where
local residents' cars
321
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,559
are parked on the drives
of would-be victims
322
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,399
who don't own cars themselves.
323
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,559
Oh, I see. What, to
deter Minstead Man?
324
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,559
Yeah. That's ingenious.
325
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,559
Yeah, he was driving slowly cos
he was looking for the right house
326
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,399
to park the Volvo and couldn't
see the numbers in the dark.
327
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,560
Right. Lead on.
328
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,559
All right, Guv? Morning.
329
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:26,560
Morning.
330
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:27,560
Oh, morning, Nathan.
331
00:24:27,561 --> 00:24:30,559
It's custard creams or
custard creams, I'm afraid.
332
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,560
Oh, well, in that case I'll
have one of each. Thanks.
333
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:39,560
Morning.
334
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,559
Ah, right, first off,
we have a visitor.
335
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,559
DCI Colin Sutton will be joining
us for a short while to see if
336
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,559
there are any missed opportunities
that might help progress our case,
337
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,559
so please introduce
yourselves afterwards
338
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,559
and assist him
wherever possible.
339
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,759
Right. How're we getting on
with the swabbing, Neville?
340
00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,559
Crunching through the list. We
had a non-cooperative yesterday.
341
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,079
What's your sense of him?
342
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,559
He's not Minstead Man, but we'll
get a sample second time around.
343
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,559
Right. Good. We
had a bit more luck
344
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:07,560
with an aerial
fitter from Croydon.
345
00:25:07,561 --> 00:25:10,079
Bit more - we got his
DNA, but no match.
346
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,559
Well, he's one off the
list, isn't he? Good work.
347
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,559
I need to update you all on progress
of Santiago University in Spain.
348
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,559
Their scientists are
using cutting-edge tech
349
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,559
to establish the physical
characteristics of Minstead Man
350
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:24,560
based on his DNA.
351
00:25:24,561 --> 00:25:26,559
Really? I didn't think
that was possible.
352
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,559
Yeah.
353
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,559
By ascertaining genealogy,
they'll be able to give us
354
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,560
a very clear idea as to his
ancestry and country of origin.
355
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,559
Yeah, Adam?
356
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,919
Yeah, the, er, victim at
Allenhall Road, Sandra Nelson,
357
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,599
had quite a bit of
jewellery stolen.
358
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,559
Good news is that she, er,
359
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,239
had it all photographed
for insurance purposes.
360
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,559
Now, I've got an informant
who knows her way around
361
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:52,560
the local pawn shops. Her way?
362
00:25:52,561 --> 00:25:54,759
Yeah. Yeah.
363
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,559
Believe it or not, her
name is, er, Diamanda.
364
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,559
If he tries to fence this
stuff, she'll tell us.
365
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,400
Good.
366
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,559
Thanks for introducing me.
367
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:09,760
That's OK. No problem.
368
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,559
What if you didn't have his DNA?
369
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,559
What would your main
lines of enquiry be then?
370
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,919
Well, the DNA is our
key asset, Colin.
371
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,559
When we catch Minstead
Man, and we will,
372
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,599
he's in the pool, isn't he?
We'll have a cast-iron case.
373
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,559
But the priority list
runs to 5,200 names,
374
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,919
and last week, you
swabbed one person.
375
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,559
At that rate, it'll take hundreds
of years to clear the list,
376
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,559
and even then, he
might not be on it.
377
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:37,560
Oh, he's on that list, Colin,
378
00:26:37,561 --> 00:26:41,239
and we have active measures
to shorten it considerably.
379
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,559
What, by prioritising satellite
engineers and motorcyclists?
380
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,559
Two avenues of many.
Yeah, but if you take...
381
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,559
We're running before we
can walk here, Colin.
382
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:53,559
I saw first-hand how painful it
is just trying to get one sample,
383
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,399
or not getting it,
as it turned out.
384
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,559
We've got you an office where
you can get your head down,
385
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,559
get across the
material I've prepared.
386
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,559
If you have any questions,
once you're up to speed,
387
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:03,720
I'll be happy to answer them.
388
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,559
Why don't you wanna talk
to me? I am talking to you.
389
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,559
I get the feeling you're
fobbing me off, that's all.
390
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,079
Oh, that's your
interpretation. Yeah, it is.
391
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,559
My interpretation would be that
I've been nothing but cooperative
392
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,079
and you're being
a little paranoid.
393
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,559
I'm not here to do a box tick,
seen-to-be-done review, Simon.
394
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:24,560
I'm here to help.
395
00:27:24,561 --> 00:27:27,559
I'm here because Hamish
thinks that fresh eyes
396
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,079
might be useful at this point.
397
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,559
Yeah, I appreciate
that. Do you?
398
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,240
I get the feeling you resent it.
399
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,239
Look, the truth is, Colin,
400
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,559
we've tried a ton of
things over the years -
401
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,560
probably all the things you
could think of and more.
402
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:53,559
You start contributing
ideas, it's a slippery slope.
403
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,599
I mean, you need to be
realistic. About what?
404
00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:02,559
Well.. how long can you
stick to diagnosing problems
405
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,559
without offering solutions?
406
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,560
Hmm? Friday?
407
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,559
Well, let's say I can
resist that temptation
408
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,919
and I am in and out in a couple
of weeks, there's no harm done.
409
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,560
No, no harm done.
410
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,559
It won't be much of a
review, though, will it?
411
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:19,560
What are you saying?
412
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:26,559
I'm saying, if you worry about
politics, retirement dates,
413
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:27,599
if you...
414
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,559
If you hold back and give this less
than your all, you'll regret it.
415
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,559
Wow. OK. That's me told.
416
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,560
Especially when he offends again,
which we both know he will.
417
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,559
Look, what are you
more afraid of?
418
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:48,559
Not solving the case, or how that
would damage your reputation?
419
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,559
Cos they've been after
this bloke for 17 years,
420
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,560
so the odds can't be good.
421
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:10,560
Cheers, Dave.
422
00:29:10,561 --> 00:29:11,759
That's OK.
423
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,560
Thank you. No problem.
424
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,559
Right. PC, printer,
425
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,559
TV, VHS, phone.
426
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,919
You dial eight for an outside line.
Don't ask me why it's not nine.
427
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,559
We march to the beat of
our own drum round here.
428
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,559
Yeah, I'm beginning to
get that impression.
429
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,559
Oh, and, of course, a
lifetime's supply of stab vests.
430
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,560
I'm already wearing one, Kenny.
431
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,399
Excellent. Very good.
432
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,559
No, but, seriously, do you
want me to get rid of them?
433
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,559
No, there's enough space. Anything
else you need, let me know.
434
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,560
Thank you.
435
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,560
So, what was it?
436
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,559
Short straw? Owe
someone a favour?
437
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,559
You seem like a good
bloke, that's all.
438
00:29:58,560 --> 00:29:59,560
Can't see you
holding your hand up
439
00:29:59,561 --> 00:30:02,559
to rake over another
officer's case.
440
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,559
Pointless Review Number 56.
441
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,560
I'm a loyal soldier,
Kenny - I do as I'm told.
442
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,559
I read my Maeve Binchy book
for about half an hour,
443
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:37,240
and the next thing, I
was woken by a noise...
444
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,560
..and then I saw a figure
at the end of the bed.
445
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,599
He was wearing a
kind of boiler suit
446
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:53,560
and his face was
hidden by a balaclava.
447
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,760
He shone a torch in my eyes, then
covered my face with his hand.
448
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,600
I couldn't... breathe,
I couldn't see.
449
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,560
I felt as if I was suffocating.
450
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,559
I told him my handbag
451
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,560
was in the living room,
but it wasn't enough.
452
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,559
He grabbed me by the shoulders
453
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,560
and he pushed me
on to the settee.
454
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,080
And then...
455
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,559
..he climbed on top of me.
456
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,080
And when he finished...
457
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:42,560
..he threw me a towel and
told me to... clean up.
458
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,560
I sat there thinking,
"This is it...
459
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,760
"this is the end of your life."
460
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,559
He told me to take
my nightdress off
461
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:14,560
as there might be semen on it,
and he put it in the sink to soak.
462
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:24,559
And then I had to have a lot
of tests for various infections
463
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,560
that he might've...
464
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,920
..passed-passed on to me.
465
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,760
I had to wait two weeks for
the HIV test to come back.
466
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,560
I moved in with my son's family.
467
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,560
I had terrible nightmares.
468
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:53,759
My son would wake me up,
469
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,559
telling me I'd been
shouting things out like,
470
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,560
"Keep off me, stay
away from me."
471
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,559
It's outrageous - not
just what he's done,
472
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:25,559
but how long he's got away with
it. The phones on the units,
473
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,239
bulbs in the sink... I've
never seen that before.
474
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,919
Thanks, love. Yeah,
he's meticulous.
475
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,559
And unusual. It's gold
dust to an analyst.
476
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,559
Go on.
477
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:42,239
You don't get this good
without practise. I'd go back.
478
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,559
I'd trawl for the earliest
cases that could be him
479
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,559
based on these traits,
480
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,559
and then I'd look
for a schoolboy error
481
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,559
or a clue to his location.
482
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,559
What sort of clue?
483
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,560
I don't know, but how many criminals
open their account close to home?
484
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:03,559
The minute he sets foot on these
properties, he's in control.
485
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,560
It's his house.
486
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,559
Morning, Richard.
487
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,559
Morning, Colin.
488
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,239
Morning.
489
00:34:51,240 --> 00:34:52,759
Gentlemen. Oh, sir,
490
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,559
Nathan was just telling me
491
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,559
how you mistook Neighbourhood
Watch Al for the Night Stalker.
492
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:58,560
Minstead Man, please.
493
00:34:58,561 --> 00:35:00,559
I'm never gonna live
that one down, am I?
494
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,559
Some beginner's luck
that would've been.
495
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,559
Well, you never know. Have
we actually taken Al's DNA?
496
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,559
I think your list is long
enough, don't you? Amen to that.
497
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,559
Could've been one longer this
morning. Just knocked back
498
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,559
a possible Minstead offence
referred by the local borough.
499
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:14,560
False alarm?
500
00:35:14,561 --> 00:35:16,559
Didn't have the key
Minstead hallmarks
501
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,560
and the victim type was
off - male and female.
502
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,919
Those hallmarks, are they
written down anywhere?
503
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,559
Mm. Got a whole policy
log on the subject.
504
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,560
Ping it over to me, will you?
I'll stick it on the pile.
505
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,559
Are these all Minstead?
506
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,560
All Minstead.
507
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,079
I tried to do a HOLMES search
relating to Minstead Man's DNA
508
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,559
and drew a blank. I couldn't
find a single lab report.
509
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:25,079
Well, the, er, lab reports
themselves aren't on the database,
510
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:30,559
but their existence is noted if
you tailor your search accordingly.
511
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,559
Well, what's the use of that?
512
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,079
Well, every exhibit seized
from a Minstead scene
513
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,559
is submitted to the lab
with its Lab Form One,
514
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,559
but once the scientists
work their magic,
515
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,560
they return the forms
with their findings.
516
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,559
But the findings never
get entered on HOLMES?
517
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:46,560
No.
518
00:36:46,561 --> 00:36:48,559
So the reports are
basically un-searchable?
519
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,239
All of HOLMES' search
features are redundant?
520
00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:54,559
Yep, to access any given file,
you need to come down here
521
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,559
and go through the
boxes manually.
522
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,239
Well, why, Neville? Why
would you do it like that?
523
00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:02,399
I had the same
question when I joined.
524
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,759
And? Well, it's all
about the numbers.
525
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,239
Too many offences,
too much evidence,
526
00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:09,559
too few people to
process it all.
527
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,559
Everything would just fall
over if corners weren't cut.
528
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,559
Well, maybe it
needs to fall over.
529
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,559
Well, no-one's happy
about it, Colin.
530
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,559
There's just no alternative.
531
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,559
We haven't just got the proven
Minstead scenes to deal with,
532
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,559
we've got all the break-ins
local CID send our way
533
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,559
that could be him. It's
literally hundreds of offences.
534
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,560
You are chronically
understaffed, aren't you?
535
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:31,560
Yeah.
536
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,559
Nathan, that possible Minstead
case the borough sent over,
537
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,559
when was that?
538
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,559
Last night. Colbridge
Road in Bromley.
539
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,559
And what ruled it
out, the victimology?
540
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:50,559
Yeah, a woman in her late
80s, her son in his 60s.
541
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,559
There's no record of
our man targeting a home
542
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,559
with multiple occupants, and he
always engages with his victims.
543
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,559
Right, and this
offender didn't? No.
544
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,559
I wonder why the borough
thought it was Minstead.
545
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:06,559
Erm... age of victims, time
of the offence and location.
546
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,560
Well, it's worth running
up the flagpole, isn't it?
547
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,559
Well, with respect to
the screening criteria,
548
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,560
that is right in the heart
of his hunting ground.
549
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,960
I'm just saying we could do
worse than give it a second look.
550
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,560
Or I could go on my
own, if it's easier.
551
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:27,560
No.
552
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,560
DC Jim Corgan, Bromley CID. Do
you think it might be him, then?
553
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,560
Let's say we wanna
make sure it isn't.
554
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,559
Several handbags
belonging to the homeowner
555
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,240
were turned out on the table.
556
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,919
He's made a point
of leaving the cash.
557
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:11,559
Doesn't sound like our boy,
but I'm keeping an open mind.
558
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,559
Well, in a few hours, we
might know definitively.
559
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,560
How so? Follow me.
560
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,559
This is Gavin Forbes,
son of the homeowner.
561
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,559
He was asleep upstairs
562
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,559
at the time of the burglary.
His mum's in hospital,
563
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,559
being treated for shock.
Oh, good morning, Mr Forbes.
564
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,559
DI Nathan Eason,
DCI Colin Sutton.
565
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,560
Tell 'em about the
juice carton, Gavin.
566
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,559
When I got back
from the hospital,
567
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,239
I went to get a glass of
orange from the fridge.
568
00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:44,559
The carton was almost empty.
569
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,559
I only opened it last night, and
my mum never touches the stuff.
570
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,560
What, and you think the intruder
might've helped himself?
571
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,559
It's the only explanation.
572
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,559
Have we seen this before?
573
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,079
He normally goes for the beer.
574
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,559
He might've been driving.
575
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,559
The juice carton's being
tested for DNA? As we speak.
576
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,399
If it's Minstead, you'll
be the first to know.
577
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:06,559
Right.
578
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,559
Mr Forbes, I'm sorry to have to
ask you to go through it again,
579
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:10,560
but from my experience,
580
00:40:10,561 --> 00:40:12,600
it's always best to hear
these things first-hand.
581
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,760
About 6am, I heard
a noise downstairs.
582
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:20,560
I thought it must be Mum,
583
00:40:20,561 --> 00:40:22,559
but she's not normally
up before ten,
584
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:23,920
so I decided to go and check.
585
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,559
When I opened the door, I
got the shock of my life -
586
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,599
about half a dozen
pairs of shoes and boots
587
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,559
tumbled inwards on the floor.
588
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,559
Was it your shoes? From
the rack downstairs.
589
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,559
He must've piled them
halfway up the door.
590
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,559
I mean, why would he do that?
591
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,560
A DIY early warning system. That
could be why he left the cash.
592
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,560
He was still in the
house when I went down.
593
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,559
You said you're working on
another case. Is it, erm...
594
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:57,559
It's-It's not that...
bloke attacking old ladies?
595
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:58,560
The Night Stalker?
596
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,559
Yes, it is, I'm afraid.
597
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:03,759
Oh, Jesus.
598
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,239
What is it, Gavin?
599
00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:09,399
Mum's room is
downstairs and, er,
600
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,560
she always sleeps
with the door open.
601
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,559
What if he went in...?
602
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,079
Your mum said nothing to suggest
any contact with the intruder.
603
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,239
She's in shock! She
wouldn't admit it.
604
00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:24,559
I mean, she wouldn't
have the words.
605
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,559
Gavin, your mum's in the best
possible hands at the hospital.
606
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,559
I know it's hard, but
until we know more,
607
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,559
try not to torture
yourself with what-ifs, OK?
608
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,559
OK.
609
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,559
Now, this shoe rack, I
didn't see it when I came in.
610
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:38,560
It's by the back door.
611
00:41:38,561 --> 00:41:41,559
Does it get much
use? All the time.
612
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,559
Mum's still very house-proud,
613
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,400
she won't have shoes
cluttering the hall.
614
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,560
This still might
not be Minstead Man.
615
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,399
What, no panes removed
or ornaments lined up?
616
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,599
No bulbs removed either,
or phone lines cut.
617
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,560
Yeah.
618
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,559
I read one of the
profiles last night.
619
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,759
Yeah, which one?
Er, Dr Pauline Rees.
620
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,559
Reed. Yeah.
621
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,559
She stressed how rare it is for
an offender to spend so much time
622
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,559
just observing his victims.
623
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,559
Like any monetary gain was
secondary to just watching them
624
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,400
go about their lives.
625
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,599
If he came from here
to the back door,
626
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,559
he wouldn't see that
shoe rack, would he?
627
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,240
But he knew it was
there, didn't he?
628
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,239
Gavin said they
use that every day.
629
00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:39,559
Yeah, he was watching.
630
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,559
From all these foot prints, he
must've been here for a while.
631
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,559
One time, he waited so long, he
did a number two under a tree.
632
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,560
Did he? I bet Dr
Reed had a field day.
633
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,560
Let's figure out how he got in.
634
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,560
Looks like a dead end. Yeah.
635
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:39,240
Colin... any luck,
we've got him on camera.
636
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,400
Coming and going.
637
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,559
I know it's a bit basic, but
I'm using these coloured pins
638
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,599
to mark the locations and
the era of the offences.
639
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,399
Numbered in sequence? Yeah.
640
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,559
Why, have you got
something like it?
641
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,559
Yeah, one or two, and in colour.
642
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,759
Oh, well, there's nothing wrong
with a bit of DIY, is there?
643
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,559
Plus it helps me to get
my head round it all.
644
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,239
Orpington. I attended that one.
645
00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:10,559
DNA on the orange carton is a
100% match for Minstead Man.
646
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,559
Colbridge Road is our case. And
we've got him on camera, too.
647
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:20,920
Gavin said he was woken at
six, so I started there.
648
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:30,560
Ah.
649
00:44:30,561 --> 00:44:33,559
Well, it confirms his
route and the time he left,
650
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:34,560
but not much else.
651
00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:38,560
He did show a bit
more leg going in.
652
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,560
There you go.
653
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,559
That's nearly six hours earlier.
654
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,559
Can you freeze it on the
best possible frame, Nathan?
655
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,559
Shame he's got his back to us.
656
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,559
Well, still, we've got a good
idea of his weight and his height,
657
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,399
it lets us know he's
got an athletic gait,
658
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:02,559
we know he walks to
and from the scenes,
659
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,560
even if he's arriving by car.
660
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,559
We're gonna need to widen
our screening criteria.
661
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:10,560
That means more offences.
662
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,559
Well, so be it. But you
haven't got the manpower,
663
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,640
not when you're treating
every offence like a murder.
664
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,559
Would this be a
fair observation?
665
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,559
You're trying to make these
offences fit the usual processes,
666
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,559
but they won't -
they just won't -
667
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,560
and the effort of trying to
force them to fit is killing you.
668
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,559
More than fair.
669
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,560
Then something's gotta change.
670
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,560
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