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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,501 --> 00:00:03,437 c) 2 00:00:04,538 --> 00:00:05,673 - [Bill] So right from that edge. 3 00:00:05,706 --> 00:00:07,208 - [Saml] I think it's nine feet all the way 4 00:00:07,241 --> 00:00:09,377 to the headstone, we measured earlier. 5 00:00:09,410 --> 00:00:12,180 -[Jeff] We haven't found a body, and we're down 6 00:00:12,213 --> 00:00:14,282 to levels where it should be. 7 00:00:16,284 --> 00:00:19,253 - [Amaryllis] There there there there there there... 8 00:00:19,287 --> 00:00:21,189 - [Jeff] The Holmes story hasn't been told yet, 9 00:00:21,222 --> 00:00:24,092 this is just the opening chapter. 10 00:00:24,125 --> 00:00:25,159 - This is crazy. 11 00:00:28,696 --> 00:00:31,432 - [Narrator] Previously, on American Ripper. 12 00:00:31,465 --> 00:00:33,567 - From what we've learned, there is not 13 00:00:33,601 --> 00:00:36,637 as dramatic a difference between these 14 00:00:36,670 --> 00:00:39,640 two killers as I had thought. 15 00:00:39,673 --> 00:00:41,575 - All of this stuff I believe 16 00:00:41,609 --> 00:00:44,345 point to a connection with Holmes. 17 00:00:44,378 --> 00:00:46,114 - Have you ever heard of the Holmes' curse? 18 00:00:46,147 --> 00:00:47,548 - [Jeff] A lot of people involved with the case 19 00:00:47,581 --> 00:00:50,251 mysteriously died after the execution. 20 00:00:50,284 --> 00:00:53,087 - Each of these are Jack the Ripper style murders 21 00:00:53,121 --> 00:00:54,622 after Holmes's execution, 22 00:00:54,655 --> 00:00:57,258 in cities that Holmes has a link to. 23 00:00:57,291 --> 00:01:01,129 - It's compelling evidence that Holmes escaped 24 00:01:01,162 --> 00:01:02,763 his death and execution. 25 00:01:02,796 --> 00:01:05,233 His estate purchased two graves and they buried 26 00:01:05,266 --> 00:01:07,235 him in the center-- - Is it unusual for 27 00:01:07,268 --> 00:01:09,437 one person to purchase two plots? 28 00:01:09,470 --> 00:01:10,804 - [Bill Giffin] It's very unusual. 29 00:01:10,838 --> 00:01:13,274 - The only way I'm going to find out if 30 00:01:13,307 --> 00:01:16,310 H. H. Holmes may actually be Jack the Ripper 31 00:01:16,344 --> 00:01:19,580 is to see what, if anything, is buried here. 32 00:01:19,613 --> 00:01:21,315 - Are you talking about actually digging up 33 00:01:21,349 --> 00:01:23,317 your great great grandfather? 34 00:01:23,351 --> 00:01:26,187 (dramatic music) 35 00:01:31,692 --> 00:01:33,227 - I can't believe we're on the verge of 36 00:01:33,261 --> 00:01:34,895 actually digging the grave up, 37 00:01:34,928 --> 00:01:37,265 where my great great grandfather's allegedly buried, 38 00:01:37,298 --> 00:01:40,834 potentially coming up with a major piece of evidence. 39 00:01:40,868 --> 00:01:43,471 - [Narrator] Former CIA operative Amaryllis Fox 40 00:01:43,504 --> 00:01:46,474 and Jeff Mudgett, descendant of H. H. Holmes, 41 00:01:46,507 --> 00:01:49,443 are investigating the life and death 42 00:01:49,477 --> 00:01:52,213 of the notorious con man and killer. 43 00:01:52,246 --> 00:01:54,182 - I'm on pins and needles. 44 00:01:54,215 --> 00:01:55,383 - [Narrator] They're seeking permission to 45 00:01:55,416 --> 00:01:57,351 excavate Holmes's grave site, 46 00:01:57,385 --> 00:01:59,287 hunting for answers to the mysteries that have 47 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,256 surrounded the case for over a century. 48 00:02:02,290 --> 00:02:04,292 - Well we've been on this journey for so long, 49 00:02:04,325 --> 00:02:07,928 following every footstep of this man, 50 00:02:07,961 --> 00:02:11,365 to come, potentially face to face with evidence 51 00:02:11,399 --> 00:02:13,901 of the greatest con he ever committed 52 00:02:13,934 --> 00:02:18,472 really feels like like an enormous next ste 53 00:02:18,506 --> 00:02:20,274 - [Narrator] H. H. Holmes becomes America's 54 00:02:20,308 --> 00:02:22,810 most infamous celebrity when he's finally arrested 55 00:02:22,843 --> 00:02:24,278 in November, 1894. 56 00:02:26,580 --> 00:02:30,751 Hearst newspapers pay him $7500 to write his 57 00:02:30,784 --> 00:02:34,922 exclusive confessions while imprisoned in Philadelphia. 58 00:02:34,955 --> 00:02:39,427 The payout is equivalent to $250,000 today, 59 00:02:39,460 --> 00:02:41,229 a fortune that some believe Holmes uses 60 00:02:41,262 --> 00:02:43,697 to bribe guards, prison officials, 61 00:02:43,731 --> 00:02:46,500 and possibly even enlist a body double in the scheme 62 00:02:46,534 --> 00:02:48,802 to escape his death sentence. 63 00:02:50,304 --> 00:02:52,540 - What's exciting for me as an investigator is 64 00:02:52,573 --> 00:02:54,508 that at most crime scenes you don't know 65 00:02:54,542 --> 00:02:56,344 whether you're going to find anything. 66 00:02:56,377 --> 00:02:59,813 Here at the grave site, really there are only three options 67 00:02:59,847 --> 00:03:01,882 and every one of them tells us something. 68 00:03:01,915 --> 00:03:04,418 Possibility number one, we open up the grave 69 00:03:04,452 --> 00:03:06,920 and we find a body in there and that body is Holmes. 70 00:03:06,954 --> 00:03:08,556 Holmes is in his grave. 71 00:03:08,589 --> 00:03:10,224 Does that mean he wasn't Jack the Ripper? 72 00:03:10,258 --> 00:03:11,992 Not necessarily. 73 00:03:12,025 --> 00:03:14,462 But it does mean that the Baddy Street eyewitness 74 00:03:14,495 --> 00:03:15,829 who claims to have seen Jack the Ripper 75 00:03:15,863 --> 00:03:19,733 25 years later, was not looking at Holmes. 76 00:03:19,767 --> 00:03:21,869 And it does mean that the Ripper-style murders 77 00:03:21,902 --> 00:03:25,339 after Holmes was executed were not carried out by Holmes. 78 00:03:25,373 --> 00:03:26,640 - All right. 79 00:03:26,674 --> 00:03:30,644 Number two, a body is found, but it's not Holmes. 80 00:03:30,678 --> 00:03:32,380 - Right, so this would be consistent with him 81 00:03:32,413 --> 00:03:35,683 switching out the bodies at the gallows, 82 00:03:35,716 --> 00:03:38,452 like the newspaper article suggests that he did, 83 00:03:38,486 --> 00:03:40,854 and some other-- - Completely anonymous. 84 00:03:40,888 --> 00:03:43,524 - Poor cadaver is buried in his place. 85 00:03:43,557 --> 00:03:47,261 So if that's the case, that would be a lot more 86 00:03:47,295 --> 00:03:49,263 consistent with Holmes being Jack the Ripper 87 00:03:49,297 --> 00:03:51,399 because then Holmes would have walked away 88 00:03:51,432 --> 00:03:53,567 able to conduct all of those other 89 00:03:53,601 --> 00:03:55,336 Jack the Ripper-style killings that happened 90 00:03:55,369 --> 00:03:57,471 after Holmes's execution. 91 00:03:57,505 --> 00:04:00,741 - Which walks right into the Holmes' curse. 92 00:04:02,009 --> 00:04:03,076 - [Narrator] Central to the theory that Holmes 93 00:04:03,110 --> 00:04:06,747 escapes his execution is a strange series of events 94 00:04:06,780 --> 00:04:10,518 that occur in the years following May, 1896, 95 00:04:10,551 --> 00:04:12,853 when the Judge, the Prison Superintendent, 96 00:04:12,886 --> 00:04:15,389 the witness for the prosecution and at least 97 00:04:15,423 --> 00:04:17,758 eight others involved in Holmes's case, 98 00:04:17,791 --> 00:04:22,029 die or disappear under unexplained circumstances. 99 00:04:22,062 --> 00:04:25,333 - Every one of those deaths, and mysterious accounts 100 00:04:25,366 --> 00:04:28,769 of those people involved in his trial, 101 00:04:28,802 --> 00:04:29,970 they were visited by Holmes. 102 00:04:30,003 --> 00:04:32,072 They were murdered by Holmes. 103 00:04:32,105 --> 00:04:34,308 (tense music) 104 00:04:34,342 --> 00:04:37,378 There's a third possibility. 105 00:04:37,411 --> 00:04:39,647 - All right, possibility number three. 106 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,015 There is no body at all. 107 00:04:42,049 --> 00:04:44,952 - Now what difference does an empty grave have 108 00:04:44,985 --> 00:04:47,788 with a different body than Holmes in the grave? 109 00:04:47,821 --> 00:04:49,923 - The difference is probably just the scale 110 00:04:49,957 --> 00:04:52,593 of the conspiracy, I mean if that grave is empty, 111 00:04:52,626 --> 00:04:54,528 a whole lot of people were in on this, 112 00:04:54,562 --> 00:04:57,398 because there are media reports that say he was 113 00:04:57,431 --> 00:04:59,767 lying in his coffin, the concrete was laid on 114 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,370 top of him in front of God and everyone. 115 00:05:02,403 --> 00:05:04,338 If all of those were fabricated then we're 116 00:05:04,372 --> 00:05:06,106 looking at a big conspiracy here. 117 00:05:06,139 --> 00:05:08,776 But, whatever's down there, the one thing that's clear 118 00:05:08,809 --> 00:05:10,711 is that Holmes didn't want us to find it. 119 00:05:10,744 --> 00:05:12,346 - Yep. - We know that he 120 00:05:12,380 --> 00:05:14,448 bought a double plot, that's unusual. 121 00:05:14,482 --> 00:05:16,450 We know that it was dug extra deep, 122 00:05:16,484 --> 00:05:18,486 that's unusual, and we know they're there, 123 00:05:18,519 --> 00:05:22,055 it seems to be concrete designed to prevent us, 124 00:05:22,089 --> 00:05:24,992 125 years later, digging it open. 125 00:05:25,025 --> 00:05:29,363 - It's evidence, that Holmes was trying to hide something. 126 00:05:29,397 --> 00:05:32,466 - Yeah, well all we can do is wait for permission to dig. 127 00:05:32,500 --> 00:05:34,435 And now we've got the ball rolling on the exhumation, 128 00:05:34,468 --> 00:05:36,737 I really want to get back into that box 129 00:05:36,770 --> 00:05:38,606 of mementos that we found in Irvington. 130 00:05:38,639 --> 00:05:40,574 I heard back from the facial recognition expert 131 00:05:40,608 --> 00:05:43,544 who was comparing the photos that his results are in. 132 00:05:43,577 --> 00:05:44,778 - Great, let's go! 133 00:05:44,812 --> 00:05:47,014 (tense music) 134 00:05:49,617 --> 00:05:51,952 - So we built the technology that can take a 2D image 135 00:05:51,985 --> 00:05:55,423 and build a 3D structure from that 2D image. 136 00:05:55,456 --> 00:05:56,924 - [Narrator] During their investigation into 137 00:05:56,957 --> 00:05:59,793 the murder of Howard Pitezel, Jeff and Amaryllis 138 00:05:59,827 --> 00:06:02,430 uncovered a collection of items reportedly 139 00:06:02,463 --> 00:06:04,131 left behind after Holmes fled 140 00:06:04,164 --> 00:06:06,967 Irvington, Indiana in October, 1894. 141 00:06:08,669 --> 00:06:12,072 The box includes medical tools manufactured in England. 142 00:06:12,105 --> 00:06:14,642 A program from Holmes's medical school graduation, 143 00:06:14,675 --> 00:06:16,610 and dozens of photographs of people 144 00:06:16,644 --> 00:06:20,113 who appear to be linked to H. H. Holmes. 145 00:06:20,147 --> 00:06:22,082 - [Sean] Then we can also take two separate images, 146 00:06:22,115 --> 00:06:25,419 and then be able to compare two objects. 147 00:06:25,453 --> 00:06:27,688 - [Narrator] They've enlisted a facial recognition expert 148 00:06:27,721 --> 00:06:30,057 to authenticate the photographs by comparing them 149 00:06:30,090 --> 00:06:33,427 to known images or sketches of people involved 150 00:06:33,461 --> 00:06:36,564 in both the Holmes and Jack the Ripper cases. 151 00:06:36,597 --> 00:06:38,699 - Okay so this is sort of like a control. 152 00:06:38,732 --> 00:06:41,201 We have a real sketch of Minnie Williams, 153 00:06:41,234 --> 00:06:42,202 so I suppose it was in a newspaper, 154 00:06:42,235 --> 00:06:44,472 and then this photo, the real photo of Minnie 155 00:06:44,505 --> 00:06:45,405 and a sketch of Minnie. 156 00:06:45,439 --> 00:06:47,207 - So in theory this would be the kind of 157 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,142 perfect match control group that we'll 158 00:06:49,176 --> 00:06:50,478 compare the other matches against? 159 00:06:50,511 --> 00:06:51,579 - [Sean] Yes. 160 00:06:51,612 --> 00:06:53,481 - [Narrator] Commercial photography is introduced 161 00:06:53,514 --> 00:06:54,915 in 1839 162 00:06:54,948 --> 00:06:57,885 but printing technology is so limited at the time, 163 00:06:57,918 --> 00:07:00,087 that daily newspapers do not widely publish 164 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,956 photographs until the 1900s. 165 00:07:02,990 --> 00:07:05,158 To represent key figures in a news story, 166 00:07:05,192 --> 00:07:07,695 the papers rely on artists' sketches, 167 00:07:07,728 --> 00:07:10,864 sourced from known portraits or photos. 168 00:07:12,199 --> 00:07:14,167 - Minnie Williams was one of Holmes's mistresses, 169 00:07:14,201 --> 00:07:16,570 and eventual victim. 170 00:07:16,604 --> 00:07:18,672 By comparing a known photograph of her 171 00:07:18,706 --> 00:07:20,974 with a newspaper sketch, we can get 172 00:07:21,008 --> 00:07:24,244 a baseline for what a positive match should look like. 173 00:07:24,277 --> 00:07:26,680 - So first we're gonna take a look at the eyes, 174 00:07:26,714 --> 00:07:29,182 and the eyebrows and kind of start from top down. 175 00:07:29,216 --> 00:07:31,685 And so the things that are looking similar here 176 00:07:31,719 --> 00:07:35,556 is the eyebrow hair growth pattern is short, 177 00:07:35,589 --> 00:07:37,958 and then, looking at the eye, you know you have 178 00:07:37,991 --> 00:07:41,094 the upper eyelid shape, and then you also have 179 00:07:41,128 --> 00:07:44,231 this area underneath the eye that's casting a shadow. 180 00:07:44,264 --> 00:07:46,700 - So what kind of a score would this comparison, earn? 181 00:07:46,734 --> 00:07:48,936 - 64 1/2%. 182 00:07:48,969 --> 00:07:50,838 - Wow so that's actually a strong match, 183 00:07:50,871 --> 00:07:55,242 if 64% is between two known likenesses of the same person. 184 00:07:55,275 --> 00:07:58,546 So that's what we're aiming for, really. 185 00:07:58,579 --> 00:08:00,514 If there's a positive match between any photo 186 00:08:00,548 --> 00:08:03,751 in this box and one of Holmes's accomplices or victims, 187 00:08:03,784 --> 00:08:06,787 makes it a lot more likely the box belonged to Holmes. 188 00:08:06,820 --> 00:08:09,156 - Okay, so we're gonna take a look at Pat Quinlan. 189 00:08:09,189 --> 00:08:11,825 There's actually one photo in this box 190 00:08:11,859 --> 00:08:14,528 who seems to look at lot like Pat Quinlan 191 00:08:14,562 --> 00:08:15,996 and the only photo we have 192 00:08:16,029 --> 00:08:18,065 of Pat Quinlan is this sketch. 193 00:08:18,098 --> 00:08:20,300 -[Jeff] Quinlan was his henchman, at the murder castle, 194 00:08:20,333 --> 00:08:22,736 and I believe that's a courtroom drawing, 195 00:08:22,770 --> 00:08:27,007 identified by the newspaper as Pat Quinlan. 196 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,042 - You know what's interesting here is that chin, 197 00:08:29,076 --> 00:08:32,212 as I'm just looking at it, it's got a dimple in it, 198 00:08:32,245 --> 00:08:35,783 and the nose looks similar especially in the nostril flare. 199 00:08:35,816 --> 00:08:39,653 And, our morphological analysis comes up with 62 1/2%. 200 00:08:39,687 --> 00:08:41,021 - [Amaryllis] Whoa. 201 00:08:41,054 --> 00:08:42,322 - [Jeff] So that's fairly high. 202 00:08:42,355 --> 00:08:44,558 - It is fairly high when you take into account 203 00:08:44,592 --> 00:08:46,560 the kind of imagery that we were using. 204 00:08:46,594 --> 00:08:49,262 We're using a very old photo with limited dynamic range, 205 00:08:49,296 --> 00:08:51,665 and then we're using that sketch with kind of 206 00:08:51,699 --> 00:08:54,067 entirely different set of dynamic ranges. 207 00:08:54,101 --> 00:08:55,936 - I've been researching my great great grandfather 208 00:08:55,969 --> 00:08:58,205 for over 20 years, and in all that time 209 00:08:58,238 --> 00:09:01,341 I've never come across an original photo of Pat Quinlan. 210 00:09:01,374 --> 00:09:04,111 Up until now the only surviving image of him 211 00:09:04,144 --> 00:09:06,313 was this sketch, published in the newspapers 212 00:09:06,346 --> 00:09:07,915 during the Holmes trial. 213 00:09:07,948 --> 00:09:10,818 So finding what could be the only known photo of him 214 00:09:10,851 --> 00:09:14,054 in a place Holmes spent time and received photos, 215 00:09:14,087 --> 00:09:16,857 convinces me the box belonged to Holmes. 216 00:09:16,890 --> 00:09:19,192 Is there anything else in the box, 217 00:09:19,226 --> 00:09:23,330 of the photos that we sent you that might tie Holmes 218 00:09:23,363 --> 00:09:24,732 with Jack the Ripper? 219 00:09:24,765 --> 00:09:27,267 - I did find something interesting. 220 00:09:27,300 --> 00:09:29,236 - That would be an enormous leap forward for us 221 00:09:29,269 --> 00:09:30,771 in our investigation. 222 00:09:30,804 --> 00:09:32,172 - [Sean] So I'm gonna start by loading up 223 00:09:32,205 --> 00:09:34,742 a photo you sent me, the tintype photo. 224 00:09:34,775 --> 00:09:37,811 - From the Holmes box we found in Irvington? 225 00:09:37,845 --> 00:09:41,181 - Okay, so here's a woman, the overall face shape 226 00:09:41,214 --> 00:09:44,785 is very similar, all the way through the jaw line 227 00:09:44,818 --> 00:09:48,388 and the chin, and the shape of the mouth, 228 00:09:48,421 --> 00:09:51,058 as well as the nose shape. 229 00:09:51,091 --> 00:09:53,326 This is a known photo of Elizabeth Stride. 230 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:58,999 (tense music) 231 00:09:59,032 --> 00:10:02,703 - One of Jack's five canonical victims. 232 00:10:02,736 --> 00:10:04,705 - She was number three. 233 00:10:04,738 --> 00:10:05,505 - [Narrator] In the investigation to link 234 00:10:05,538 --> 00:10:07,741 Jack the Ripper and H. H. Holmes, 235 00:10:07,775 --> 00:10:08,942 an analysis of photos that 236 00:10:08,976 --> 00:10:11,344 reportedly belonged to Holmes himself 237 00:10:11,378 --> 00:10:14,682 reveals a surprising result, a potential 238 00:10:14,715 --> 00:10:17,184 facial match between an image in the collection 239 00:10:17,217 --> 00:10:20,053 and a photo of a Jack the Ripper victim. 240 00:10:20,087 --> 00:10:21,121 - What number did you come up with for 241 00:10:21,154 --> 00:10:22,355 these two photographs? 242 00:10:22,389 --> 00:10:24,357 - Pretty high score, 64 1/2%. 243 00:10:24,391 --> 00:10:27,695 - Whoa, wait so we have a 64% match 244 00:10:27,728 --> 00:10:31,064 with one of Jack's victims in a box, 245 00:10:32,299 --> 00:10:33,934 that's associated with H. H. Holmes. 246 00:10:33,967 --> 00:10:35,969 That's the highest score we've had so far, 247 00:10:36,003 --> 00:10:38,305 except for when we compared two images 248 00:10:38,338 --> 00:10:39,840 of the same person to each other. 249 00:10:39,873 --> 00:10:42,676 - Right. - We are a huge step 250 00:10:42,710 --> 00:10:46,346 closer to nailing down that Holmes was Jack the Ripper. 251 00:10:46,379 --> 00:10:49,249 (dramatic music) 252 00:10:52,953 --> 00:10:54,688 If Holmes wasn't the Ripper, 253 00:10:54,722 --> 00:10:56,957 how would he have gotten the picture, at that time, 254 00:10:56,990 --> 00:10:58,191 of Elizabeth Stride? 255 00:10:58,225 --> 00:11:01,795 - There's no doubt that if that photo is Elizabeth Stride, 256 00:11:01,829 --> 00:11:05,132 this is very serious evidence in support of your theory. 257 00:11:05,165 --> 00:11:08,035 It's a strong match, given the age of the photograph. 258 00:11:08,068 --> 00:11:09,770 - When we started this investigation, 259 00:11:09,803 --> 00:11:11,471 I thought I knew everything there was to know 260 00:11:11,504 --> 00:11:14,407 about H. H. Holmes, but we've uncovered so much 261 00:11:14,441 --> 00:11:17,477 I didn't expect to find, I'm now more convinced 262 00:11:17,510 --> 00:11:19,880 than ever that my theory is true. 263 00:11:19,913 --> 00:11:22,182 Right now our best chance of finally finding 264 00:11:22,215 --> 00:11:25,352 the evidence we need, is to dig up that grave. 265 00:11:25,385 --> 00:11:27,387 All we can do now is wait. 266 00:11:27,420 --> 00:11:30,023 (tense music) 267 00:11:33,827 --> 00:11:35,395 - [Narrator] The process to exhume a grave site 268 00:11:35,428 --> 00:11:38,431 can take months, and is strictly regulated. 269 00:11:38,465 --> 00:11:40,433 Permission to dig requires both agreement 270 00:11:40,467 --> 00:11:42,502 from all surviving relatives, 271 00:11:42,535 --> 00:11:44,805 and a court order from a presiding judge 272 00:11:44,838 --> 00:11:46,874 in the local jurisdiction. 273 00:11:46,907 --> 00:11:49,209 - Now I think the testimony went really well, 274 00:11:49,242 --> 00:11:51,745 I think the consents you got helped a lot. 275 00:11:51,779 --> 00:11:53,847 - [Narrator] At the office of Philadelphia attorney, 276 00:11:53,881 --> 00:11:56,416 Doug Maloney, Jeff and Amaryllis receive 277 00:11:56,449 --> 00:11:58,485 the long awaited verdict. 278 00:11:58,518 --> 00:12:00,520 - The judge approved the petition, we're good to go. 279 00:12:00,553 --> 00:12:01,822 - You're kidding! - Nope. 280 00:12:01,855 --> 00:12:03,791 - Doug that's great news. 281 00:12:03,824 --> 00:12:07,060 It's the culmination of 20 years of work on my part, 282 00:12:07,094 --> 00:12:09,529 and quite frankly I never thought we'd actually 283 00:12:09,562 --> 00:12:13,533 receive permission to exhume his grave. 284 00:12:13,566 --> 00:12:16,804 - Now we still have to comply with a lot of conditions. 285 00:12:16,837 --> 00:12:18,438 All right they were concerned about what happens 286 00:12:18,471 --> 00:12:20,874 during the exhumation process, 287 00:12:20,908 --> 00:12:22,209 they want to make sure that the remains 288 00:12:22,242 --> 00:12:24,144 are treated respectfully, 289 00:12:24,177 --> 00:12:26,346 they want to make sure that we conduct this 290 00:12:26,379 --> 00:12:29,516 in accordance with the best scientific protocol available, 291 00:12:29,549 --> 00:12:32,085 we're gonna have the Department of Anthropology 292 00:12:32,119 --> 00:12:36,189 from Penn start the exhumation process within 72 hours. 293 00:12:36,223 --> 00:12:37,791 - 72 hours? 294 00:12:37,825 --> 00:12:39,526 Are you kidding, we better get started. 295 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,162 (tense music) 296 00:13:16,096 --> 00:13:18,198 - [Jeff] Now we're talking. 297 00:13:18,231 --> 00:13:20,600 - [Narrator] Breaking ground at the H. H. Holmes grave site 298 00:13:20,633 --> 00:13:23,303 for the first time since his alleged burial 299 00:13:23,336 --> 00:13:27,908 121 year ago, Jeff, Amaryllis and a team 300 00:13:27,941 --> 00:13:29,442 of archeologists are working to expose 301 00:13:29,476 --> 00:13:33,947 the secrets behind one of history's greatest mysteries. 302 00:13:33,981 --> 00:13:35,515 - We have no idea what's gonna really be in there 303 00:13:35,548 --> 00:13:37,350 it's either going to be empty, 304 00:13:37,384 --> 00:13:40,921 which is a possibility, or we could find 305 00:13:40,954 --> 00:13:43,123 either a skeleton or a mummy. 306 00:13:43,156 --> 00:13:45,525 - [Jeff] It amazes me that we're on the verge of opening up 307 00:13:45,558 --> 00:13:49,096 something which was never to be opened again. 308 00:13:49,129 --> 00:13:51,531 (resolute music) 309 00:13:51,564 --> 00:13:52,966 - 19th century law enforcement 310 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,902 thought that Holmes's murder spree ended 311 00:13:54,935 --> 00:13:58,505 on the day he was executed, May 7th of 1896, 312 00:13:58,538 --> 00:14:00,307 but the Jack the Ripper-style killings we found 313 00:14:00,340 --> 00:14:02,342 in newspaper reports continued after 314 00:14:02,375 --> 00:14:04,444 Holmes's supposed execution. 315 00:14:04,477 --> 00:14:06,613 So one way of proving that Holmes was Jack the Ripper, 316 00:14:06,646 --> 00:14:10,450 is proving he escaped his own execution and burial. 317 00:14:10,483 --> 00:14:12,052 While I think this is a long shot, 318 00:14:12,085 --> 00:14:13,553 I'm gonna remain open minded. 319 00:14:13,586 --> 00:14:15,455 That's a really big-- - What's that? 320 00:14:15,488 --> 00:14:16,556 What's that right there? 321 00:14:16,589 --> 00:14:18,425 Are you sure that's not concrete? 322 00:14:18,458 --> 00:14:20,260 - [Tim] Let's take a look. 323 00:14:20,293 --> 00:14:21,461 - [Sam] Hey. 324 00:14:24,231 --> 00:14:27,234 - [Jeff] That looks like concrete. 325 00:14:27,267 --> 00:14:29,436 - [Sam] I think it's just more clay. 326 00:14:29,469 --> 00:14:31,271 - [Tim] Solidified. 327 00:14:31,304 --> 00:14:34,407 - We saw the cemetery records from 1896, 328 00:14:34,441 --> 00:14:37,911 that revealed Holmes's unusual last requests. 329 00:14:37,945 --> 00:14:40,547 He purchased two burial plots, and insisted 330 00:14:40,580 --> 00:14:43,250 that his coffin be encased in concrete. 331 00:14:43,283 --> 00:14:45,152 I'm convinced that these bizarre requests 332 00:14:45,185 --> 00:14:47,387 were all part of his plan to con his way 333 00:14:47,420 --> 00:14:49,389 out of his own execution. 334 00:14:49,422 --> 00:14:51,091 - It's possible as we keep going deeper 335 00:14:51,124 --> 00:14:52,492 we'll get into more of the gray, 336 00:14:52,525 --> 00:14:57,364 and it could be the concrete that's never set. 337 00:14:57,397 --> 00:14:58,431 - [Man] All right Joe, start it up! 338 00:14:58,465 --> 00:14:59,499 - [Sam] All right. 339 00:14:59,532 --> 00:15:01,935 (tense music) 340 00:15:05,238 --> 00:15:06,406 - [Sam] Quite often you dig up things in 341 00:15:06,439 --> 00:15:10,543 cemeteries that are nothing what you expected them to be. 342 00:15:10,577 --> 00:15:13,246 - [Bill] Like in the case here. - [Sam] Right. 343 00:15:17,550 --> 00:15:19,119 - [Bill] Whoo, that hole's getting bigger. 344 00:15:19,152 --> 00:15:20,520 - [Sam] Yep. - [Bill] Oh, we just went 345 00:15:20,553 --> 00:15:22,155 another foot, yep. 346 00:15:23,690 --> 00:15:26,393 - So I'm seeing a crack over here in the wall, 347 00:15:26,426 --> 00:15:30,197 of the adjoining grave, and it looks, 348 00:15:30,230 --> 00:15:31,364 it looks dangerous to me, 349 00:15:31,398 --> 00:15:33,500 and I don't think we should go any further with this. 350 00:15:33,533 --> 00:15:35,135 I've got a shoring team waiting, 351 00:15:35,168 --> 00:15:37,004 and I'm gonna go over and get them to work. 352 00:15:37,037 --> 00:15:39,606 So, nothing else is disturbed on either side. 353 00:15:39,639 --> 00:15:42,475 (tense music) 354 00:15:42,509 --> 00:15:46,213 Ah, keep it going. -[Worker] Get that back end. 355 00:15:46,246 --> 00:15:47,480 All right. 356 00:15:47,514 --> 00:15:50,117 (tense music) 357 00:15:51,718 --> 00:15:53,586 - All the records we've found indicates that 358 00:15:53,620 --> 00:15:56,356 Holmes is buried in a concrete filled coffin, 359 00:15:56,389 --> 00:15:57,390 in this grave. 360 00:15:57,424 --> 00:16:00,727 We're at six feet down, and so far it's empty. 361 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,429 - [Amaryllis] How deep are the grave sites here? 362 00:16:02,462 --> 00:16:03,630 - The graves on either side are eight, 363 00:16:03,663 --> 00:16:04,998 which really mean that you should be hitting 364 00:16:05,032 --> 00:16:06,166 the top of the coffin. 365 00:16:06,199 --> 00:16:09,669 - Actually we got one more foot and we should be hitting. 366 00:16:11,371 --> 00:16:13,273 This is an important scoop. 367 00:16:16,243 --> 00:16:19,112 - That is definitely a color change! 368 00:16:20,647 --> 00:16:22,482 - Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa, don't go too deep! 369 00:16:22,515 --> 00:16:25,018 It almost sounded like you hit something solid. 370 00:16:25,052 --> 00:16:28,688 (chattering) - We've hit concrete. 371 00:16:28,721 --> 00:16:30,557 - All right I think we should quit using the backhoe 372 00:16:30,590 --> 00:16:32,625 and start getting down there a little more delicate. 373 00:16:32,659 --> 00:16:34,294 - Why don't we put it-- - What are you gonna 374 00:16:34,327 --> 00:16:37,097 want, shovels and buckets? - Yeah. 375 00:16:37,130 --> 00:16:39,032 - Earlier in our investigation we uncovered 376 00:16:39,066 --> 00:16:41,634 that Holmes owned a cement factory back in Chicago, 377 00:16:41,668 --> 00:16:44,437 and he was possibly encasing his victims in concrete 378 00:16:44,471 --> 00:16:46,406 and dumping them in the river. 379 00:16:46,439 --> 00:16:48,075 So it's pretty strange to hear that his own 380 00:16:48,108 --> 00:16:50,410 bizarre burial request included filling 381 00:16:50,443 --> 00:16:52,412 his own grave with concrete. 382 00:16:52,445 --> 00:16:55,482 What we don't know is how the concrete was actually used. 383 00:16:55,515 --> 00:16:58,051 The ambiguity in the reports just deepens the mystery 384 00:16:58,085 --> 00:17:01,088 about what if anything is buried here. 385 00:17:01,121 --> 00:17:02,489 - [Jeff] What are you seeing Sam? 386 00:17:02,522 --> 00:17:04,557 - We've got this really strong color change. 387 00:17:04,591 --> 00:17:05,458 - Yep. - Between the gray 388 00:17:05,492 --> 00:17:08,461 and the orange, so this should be where 389 00:17:08,495 --> 00:17:10,463 they dug the original grave. 390 00:17:10,497 --> 00:17:11,364 - [Amaryllis] So that would be the grave cut we 391 00:17:11,398 --> 00:17:12,432 were looking for? 392 00:17:12,465 --> 00:17:13,766 - Yeah, so this is what we've been looking for, 393 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:15,368 the whole time. 394 00:17:15,402 --> 00:17:16,469 If I can just pop this off, 395 00:17:16,503 --> 00:17:18,571 right here. - Oh man look! 396 00:17:18,605 --> 00:17:19,606 - There's the corner, - Looks like, 397 00:17:19,639 --> 00:17:20,440 - right there. - yep we got a corner. 398 00:17:20,473 --> 00:17:21,274 - [Jeff] Can you show me a corner? 399 00:17:21,308 --> 00:17:24,144 - [Sam] You know here's the corner. 400 00:17:24,177 --> 00:17:25,778 You can see we've already got the end of the coffin. 401 00:17:25,812 --> 00:17:28,415 - So this is Holmes's coffin, 402 00:17:28,448 --> 00:17:29,849 that we're looking at right here. 403 00:17:29,882 --> 00:17:31,418 - We've definitely found a box. 404 00:17:31,451 --> 00:17:33,186 - [Jeff] Holy mackerel! 405 00:17:33,220 --> 00:17:35,755 (tense music) 406 00:17:35,788 --> 00:17:38,491 - [Narrator] Six feet under, an unmarked grave. 407 00:17:38,525 --> 00:17:41,094 The team uncovers the first sign of what could be 408 00:17:41,128 --> 00:17:45,265 the coffin of America's first serial killer, H. H. Holmes. 409 00:17:45,298 --> 00:17:49,702 The question is, what, if anything, is buried inside? 410 00:17:49,736 --> 00:17:51,638 - The only way we're gonna know is to keep digging. 411 00:17:51,671 --> 00:17:52,672 - Yep. - Yeah. 412 00:17:53,606 --> 00:17:56,476 (tense music) 413 00:17:56,509 --> 00:17:58,145 - We found what we were looking for, 414 00:17:58,178 --> 00:18:00,580 a concrete filled coffin buried between two 415 00:18:00,613 --> 00:18:04,251 adjacent plots, just like the newspaper report said. 416 00:18:04,284 --> 00:18:07,387 We could be inches away from the body of H. H. Holmes. 417 00:18:07,420 --> 00:18:08,821 - Assuming the body was put in 418 00:18:08,855 --> 00:18:11,191 in the orientation we expect it to be, 419 00:18:11,224 --> 00:18:12,759 the head should be on this end, 420 00:18:12,792 --> 00:18:14,527 and the feet should be on that end. 421 00:18:14,561 --> 00:18:16,663 So, we're expecting down there 422 00:18:16,696 --> 00:18:18,431 to try and hit the feet first, 423 00:18:18,465 --> 00:18:20,533 hoping, we can get the toes, 424 00:18:20,567 --> 00:18:24,404 and then follow the bones up the skeleton from there. 425 00:18:24,437 --> 00:18:25,305 - Follow it up. - Yep. 426 00:18:25,338 --> 00:18:26,439 - All right. 427 00:18:26,473 --> 00:18:27,474 -[Narrator] The archeological team 428 00:18:27,507 --> 00:18:31,311 switches to hand tools to excavate the coffin. 429 00:18:31,344 --> 00:18:35,148 The plan is to remove the concrete section by section, 430 00:18:35,182 --> 00:18:38,785 to carefully expose any bones or remains encased inside. 431 00:18:38,818 --> 00:18:40,253 - Sam have you hit bottom there, 432 00:18:40,287 --> 00:18:41,921 do you have any sense about how deep it goes? 433 00:18:41,954 --> 00:18:46,359 - We're down maybe eight inches, from the top of it, 434 00:18:46,393 --> 00:18:49,196 and so far we have nothing but concrete. 435 00:18:49,229 --> 00:18:51,564 - No artifacts, no human remains? 436 00:18:51,598 --> 00:18:53,866 - Nothing. - [Amaryllis] OK how can I help? 437 00:18:55,768 --> 00:18:58,171 - Trying to keep an eye out really for just anything 438 00:18:58,205 --> 00:19:00,273 that's different, 'cause we don't know what 439 00:19:00,307 --> 00:19:01,741 to expect in here. 440 00:19:01,774 --> 00:19:06,179 - And once we find one piece of human remains, 441 00:19:06,213 --> 00:19:07,247 will you then have a better sense 442 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:08,415 of what you're looking for? 443 00:19:08,448 --> 00:19:10,250 - For sure, yeah. 444 00:19:10,283 --> 00:19:12,485 - [Jeff] Unearthing Holmes's grave could overturn 445 00:19:12,519 --> 00:19:16,856 everything history tells us about this man and his crimes. 446 00:19:16,889 --> 00:19:20,960 Dozens of unsolved murders took place after 1896, 447 00:19:20,993 --> 00:19:23,896 in cities where Holmes was active during his life. 448 00:19:23,930 --> 00:19:26,199 - [Sam] Where are you, you bastard... 449 00:19:26,233 --> 00:19:27,834 - So if there's nothing here, or if the body 450 00:19:27,867 --> 00:19:30,503 in the grave isn't Holmes, we're one step 451 00:19:30,537 --> 00:19:33,540 closer to proving Holmes is Jack the Ripper. 452 00:19:33,573 --> 00:19:35,775 (tense music) 453 00:19:40,747 --> 00:19:42,815 Hey guys, could you hold up a moment? 454 00:19:42,849 --> 00:19:46,886 We know Holmes was about five foot seven inches tall. 455 00:19:46,919 --> 00:19:50,290 I'd like to know where, if his head is up against the end, 456 00:19:50,323 --> 00:19:53,560 where his feet should be at five foot seven. 457 00:19:53,593 --> 00:19:55,895 - So we know the end of the box is a little, 458 00:19:55,928 --> 00:19:58,431 at least a little bit into this wall, 459 00:19:58,465 --> 00:20:00,967 so we're measuring about six feet, 460 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:05,004 and if possible he moved around within the concrete. 461 00:20:05,037 --> 00:20:07,574 - [Narrator] A wood-framed concrete filled coffin 462 00:20:07,607 --> 00:20:09,776 is seven feet long. 463 00:20:09,809 --> 00:20:13,413 18 inches at the foot of the coffin is clear of concrete, 464 00:20:13,446 --> 00:20:15,515 with no sign of remains. 465 00:20:15,548 --> 00:20:18,951 If five-foot seven H. H. Holmes is buried in this casket, 466 00:20:18,985 --> 00:20:20,953 the team should be just inches away 467 00:20:20,987 --> 00:20:22,955 from the first evidence of bone. 468 00:20:22,989 --> 00:20:25,625 (tense music) 469 00:20:35,302 --> 00:20:38,371 - Now, I don't want to push this, you know my theory. 470 00:20:38,405 --> 00:20:41,040 - Yeah. - But we haven't found a body 471 00:20:41,073 --> 00:20:44,611 and we're down to levels where it should be. 472 00:20:44,644 --> 00:20:46,946 - I don't disagree with you, and it's getting, 473 00:20:46,979 --> 00:20:49,516 it's a little bit discouraging we haven't found one yet. 474 00:20:49,549 --> 00:20:51,784 - As an archeologist I know you want to find bones, 475 00:20:51,818 --> 00:20:55,888 and I really believed with near certainty 476 00:20:55,922 --> 00:20:56,889 that we would find them. 477 00:20:56,923 --> 00:21:00,059 All the newspapers suggest that H. H. Holmes 478 00:21:00,092 --> 00:21:04,431 is buried here, all signs pointed to H. H. Holmes's feet 479 00:21:04,464 --> 00:21:06,833 being here and his head being right there. 480 00:21:06,866 --> 00:21:08,301 - Yep. - But I gotta say I mean, 481 00:21:08,335 --> 00:21:11,037 we're down to the bottom of this box and there's 482 00:21:11,070 --> 00:21:13,072 no sign of him yet. 483 00:21:13,105 --> 00:21:16,008 I, I, I'm really dumbfounded, 484 00:21:17,477 --> 00:21:19,946 but I think the bastard might have walked away. 485 00:21:19,979 --> 00:21:24,651 (dramatic music) 486 00:21:25,885 --> 00:21:27,387 - [Narrator] At a cemetery six miles 487 00:21:27,420 --> 00:21:30,457 outside of Philadelphia, 488 00:21:30,490 --> 00:21:32,359 eight feet deep beneath the surface 489 00:21:32,392 --> 00:21:34,561 of an unmarked grave reported to be 490 00:21:34,594 --> 00:21:38,498 the final resting place of murderous con man H. H. Holmes. 491 00:21:38,531 --> 00:21:39,866 - [Sam] I think we're done. 492 00:21:39,899 --> 00:21:40,900 - I guess that's it. 493 00:21:40,933 --> 00:21:43,370 - [Narrator] The excavation of a concrete coffin 494 00:21:43,403 --> 00:21:46,673 reveals no body buried inside. 495 00:21:46,706 --> 00:21:48,775 - At eight feet deep we've come to the bottom 496 00:21:48,808 --> 00:21:52,745 of an empty coffin, without finding a single bone, 497 00:21:52,779 --> 00:21:56,516 which to me is proof, Holmes escaped his death. 498 00:21:58,017 --> 00:22:00,653 (tense music) 499 00:22:02,021 --> 00:22:04,023 - We're thinking it's one of three options. 500 00:22:04,056 --> 00:22:06,826 Either he escaped his own death, 501 00:22:06,859 --> 00:22:10,930 which is hard for a logical investigator to accept. 502 00:22:10,963 --> 00:22:12,765 He's buried somewhere else, 503 00:22:12,799 --> 00:22:15,134 or there's something even deeper in that grave. 504 00:22:15,167 --> 00:22:17,537 - Yeah, I think the key thing you said is that 505 00:22:17,570 --> 00:22:19,972 we're not at the bottom of Holmes' grave. 506 00:22:20,006 --> 00:22:22,675 - The theory that H. H. Holmes escaped his own death 507 00:22:22,709 --> 00:22:25,077 seems outlandish to me. 508 00:22:25,111 --> 00:22:28,715 So far there is no evidence of a body, but, 509 00:22:28,748 --> 00:22:30,082 newspaper reports from the time 510 00:22:30,116 --> 00:22:31,851 and cemetery records suggest that Holmes 511 00:22:31,884 --> 00:22:34,153 requested to be buried extra deep. 512 00:22:34,186 --> 00:22:36,489 This coffin may not be the end. 513 00:22:36,523 --> 00:22:39,392 (tense music) 514 00:22:39,426 --> 00:22:41,794 - [Narrator] In the 1800s, bodies are usually 515 00:22:41,828 --> 00:22:44,897 interred six feet beneath the ground. 516 00:22:44,931 --> 00:22:47,133 Now, at a depth of more than eight feet, 517 00:22:47,166 --> 00:22:49,135 the exhumation pushes on. 518 00:22:50,570 --> 00:22:54,140 (electric whining) (mechanical grinding) 519 00:22:54,173 --> 00:22:55,808 - It's hard. - It's hard? 520 00:22:55,842 --> 00:22:56,909 - It's hard. 521 00:22:56,943 --> 00:22:58,411 (electric whining) 522 00:22:58,445 --> 00:23:00,713 (thumping) 523 00:23:00,747 --> 00:23:01,548 - [Tim] Wow. - [Sam] Wow. 524 00:23:01,581 --> 00:23:02,982 - [Sam] Okay. 525 00:23:03,015 --> 00:23:05,051 - Okay, I mean for a comparison, 526 00:23:05,084 --> 00:23:08,087 if I lean on this, and I put it in here, 527 00:23:10,857 --> 00:23:12,659 (thumping) - Wow. 528 00:23:12,692 --> 00:23:13,893 - That's not dirt. 529 00:23:13,926 --> 00:23:15,428 - It's hard. - It's sticking. 530 00:23:15,462 --> 00:23:16,328 All right. - Should I see if I 531 00:23:16,362 --> 00:23:18,197 can drill it, is it wood, or concrete? 532 00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:19,699 - Will it drill? - Yeah, try. 533 00:23:19,732 --> 00:23:20,567 - You can try it. 534 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,436 (electric whining) 535 00:23:24,737 --> 00:23:25,772 - [Amaryllis] Oh, did it go through something? 536 00:23:25,805 --> 00:23:26,305 - Wait, we just - We just went 537 00:23:26,338 --> 00:23:27,206 - through something. 538 00:23:27,239 --> 00:23:29,208 - We just broke into an opening, yeah. 539 00:23:29,241 --> 00:23:31,878 - You mean another box? 540 00:23:31,911 --> 00:23:33,913 - I drilled, it felt like wood, then it broke through, 541 00:23:33,946 --> 00:23:35,782 into an opening. 542 00:23:35,815 --> 00:23:36,916 - Well, we broke through something. 543 00:23:36,949 --> 00:23:38,985 - It broke through something. - Into, another opening. 544 00:23:39,018 --> 00:23:41,754 (tense music) 545 00:23:41,788 --> 00:23:44,557 So, do you think that wood, the second wood 546 00:23:44,591 --> 00:23:47,960 that you went through, could be his coffin? 547 00:23:48,995 --> 00:23:50,897 - It's wood, it could be. 548 00:23:50,930 --> 00:23:52,932 - That is so weird. 549 00:23:52,965 --> 00:23:54,967 (sighing) - This is crazy. 550 00:23:55,001 --> 00:23:56,636 (chuckling) - And we thought 551 00:23:56,669 --> 00:23:57,504 we were done. 552 00:23:57,537 --> 00:23:58,337 - [Jeff] Let's cut through the wood, 553 00:23:58,370 --> 00:24:00,206 and see what' down there. - Right. 554 00:24:00,239 --> 00:24:04,210 (heavy whirring) (mechanical grinding) 555 00:24:08,548 --> 00:24:10,583 (tense music) 556 00:24:10,617 --> 00:24:12,785 - [Narrator] Beneath the floor of the pine box, 557 00:24:12,819 --> 00:24:15,021 is a second layer of wood. 558 00:24:15,054 --> 00:24:18,991 (heavy whirring) (mechanical grinding) 559 00:24:23,930 --> 00:24:24,731 - Look! - Water. 560 00:24:24,764 --> 00:24:26,165 - Water. - Wow. 561 00:24:26,198 --> 00:24:28,768 - We got water, lots of water. 562 00:24:30,169 --> 00:24:31,904 - [Narrator] The deeper the grave, the more 563 00:24:31,938 --> 00:24:33,773 vulnerable it is to water backing up 564 00:24:33,806 --> 00:24:35,942 through the ground during heavy rains. 565 00:24:35,975 --> 00:24:38,244 At this depth, stagnant water can have 566 00:24:38,277 --> 00:24:41,614 a destructive effect on remains. 567 00:24:41,648 --> 00:24:42,448 - [Tim] Yeah I've seen that before. 568 00:24:42,481 --> 00:24:45,051 - What's underneath, how deep is it? 569 00:24:45,084 --> 00:24:46,953 - Oh it's not very deep. - Yeah. 570 00:24:46,986 --> 00:24:48,621 - [Amaryllis] What does it feel like? 571 00:24:48,655 --> 00:24:51,157 - It's pretty, it's hard, it feels like concrete. 572 00:24:51,190 --> 00:24:54,060 I mean, it's hard, but it's not like totally smooth. 573 00:24:54,093 --> 00:24:55,828 - We're almost to the bottom of a 10-foot grave, 574 00:24:55,862 --> 00:24:57,997 and we have hardened concrete which is exactly 575 00:24:58,030 --> 00:24:59,966 what the report said we'd find. 576 00:24:59,999 --> 00:25:02,769 We were basically just thrown off by a fake 577 00:25:02,802 --> 00:25:04,937 empty pine box at the eight foot mark. 578 00:25:04,971 --> 00:25:06,038 - Exactly, yeah. 579 00:25:08,007 --> 00:25:09,876 - He's a con man to the last. 580 00:25:09,909 --> 00:25:12,078 (tense music) 581 00:25:14,647 --> 00:25:16,816 - [Narrator] The excavation reveals a two-foot deep 582 00:25:16,849 --> 00:25:19,552 concrete coffin with no remains, 583 00:25:19,586 --> 00:25:22,855 which may have been a decoy to ward off grave robbers. 584 00:25:22,889 --> 00:25:26,092 Beneath the pine box is a second layer of wood, 585 00:25:26,125 --> 00:25:30,196 two inches thick, concealing another block of concrete, 586 00:25:30,229 --> 00:25:32,732 which appears to be hardened. 587 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,167 - [Sam] Yep we got wood. 588 00:25:35,201 --> 00:25:37,036 Oh yeah, so you got the 589 00:25:37,069 --> 00:25:38,170 crack right here, 590 00:25:40,006 --> 00:25:41,140 see that, and then-- - [Tim] Got you down 591 00:25:41,173 --> 00:25:42,709 about 10 foot, - [Sam] This is wood. 592 00:25:42,742 --> 00:25:43,576 - [Tim] more or less. 593 00:25:43,610 --> 00:25:45,945 - [Sam] So I think this is the side. 594 00:25:45,978 --> 00:25:48,781 We've removed all the soil that was on this side, 595 00:25:48,815 --> 00:25:51,851 and we are down to what looks like the lid 596 00:25:51,884 --> 00:25:53,620 of a second coffin. 597 00:25:54,887 --> 00:25:57,156 And then the really cool thing is we seem to have a latch, 598 00:25:57,189 --> 00:25:59,892 right here, that would be used to, 599 00:25:59,926 --> 00:26:02,128 attach the lid to the coffin. 600 00:26:02,161 --> 00:26:04,997 The weird thing is that all the newspapers say 601 00:26:05,031 --> 00:26:09,068 Holmes's casket did not have a lid, when he was buried. 602 00:26:09,101 --> 00:26:11,103 - Interesting. 603 00:26:11,137 --> 00:26:14,006 I wonder if whether that was to hide 604 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,809 his body from grave robbers, or it was to hide 605 00:26:16,843 --> 00:26:20,813 some other secret that might lie right beneath us. 606 00:26:20,847 --> 00:26:23,015 (tense music) 607 00:26:31,023 --> 00:26:34,794 Wow Sam, the upper box is really completely removed now, 608 00:26:34,827 --> 00:26:39,832 and from up here, it really looks like 609 00:26:39,866 --> 00:26:41,934 a lid to a casket down there. 610 00:26:44,103 --> 00:26:48,407 - Every step we take another secret is revealed, 611 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,143 and I really don't know what the final result's 612 00:26:51,177 --> 00:26:52,712 gonna be yet. 613 00:26:52,745 --> 00:26:54,246 - [Sam] No I don't know that any of us do. 614 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,249 - I want to see whether when we lift up 615 00:26:57,283 --> 00:26:58,685 that casket lid, 616 00:26:59,952 --> 00:27:02,021 he's under there, or whether we have a 617 00:27:02,054 --> 00:27:08,127 second empty box on our hands. 618 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,197 (power tool rumbling) 619 00:27:12,699 --> 00:27:14,133 - [Tim] Just take it real slow. 620 00:27:14,166 --> 00:27:16,869 - We're, opening his front door right now. 621 00:27:16,903 --> 00:27:18,370 (tense music) 622 00:27:18,404 --> 00:27:19,972 - [Amaryllis] Are you ready? 623 00:27:20,006 --> 00:27:20,773 - Yeah. 624 00:27:24,076 --> 00:27:25,011 There you go. 625 00:27:28,214 --> 00:27:31,951 -[Jeff] There's chills going up and down my spine right now. 626 00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:37,023 (dramatic music) 627 00:27:37,056 --> 00:27:38,925 - [Narrator] Eight feet beneath the surface, 628 00:27:38,958 --> 00:27:41,894 buried under a box of concrete two feet thick. 629 00:27:41,928 --> 00:27:43,796 - [Man] And it's sliding right off. 630 00:27:43,830 --> 00:27:45,698 - [Narrator] A casket believed to hold the remains 631 00:27:45,732 --> 00:27:47,767 of H. H. Holmes is being opened 632 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,402 for the first time in 121 years. 633 00:27:51,938 --> 00:27:53,940 - All right guys just slow down a little bit now. 634 00:27:53,973 --> 00:27:56,008 Let's all stop a minute. 635 00:27:56,042 --> 00:27:58,044 - That's not dirt. 636 00:27:58,077 --> 00:27:59,746 That's another concrete block. 637 00:27:59,779 --> 00:28:01,948 - Oh boy. - Now let's all catch 638 00:28:01,981 --> 00:28:06,018 our breath, let Sam figure out the smartest next move, okay? 639 00:28:06,052 --> 00:28:07,353 - Yeah. 640 00:28:07,386 --> 00:28:09,789 At every stage of this investigation we've uncovered 641 00:28:09,822 --> 00:28:12,859 stories of Holmes's single-minded genius, 642 00:28:12,892 --> 00:28:14,994 always outsmarting everyone around him, 643 00:28:15,027 --> 00:28:17,496 from creditors to his numerous wives, 644 00:28:17,529 --> 00:28:21,467 to law enforcement, and now, maybe outsmarting us. 645 00:28:23,269 --> 00:28:26,773 - I'm ready to start drilling, and, get in there. 646 00:28:26,806 --> 00:28:28,975 (tense music) 647 00:28:29,008 --> 00:28:32,311 (stony grinding) 648 00:28:32,344 --> 00:28:35,782 - [Narrator] At eight feet, beneath the decoy box, 649 00:28:35,815 --> 00:28:39,718 sits a second casket, containing a sold block of concrete. 650 00:28:45,858 --> 00:28:47,126 - [Man] Okay, here we go. 651 00:28:47,159 --> 00:28:48,494 - [Sam] All right. 652 00:28:48,527 --> 00:28:50,496 - [Narrator] A Burrowscope camera deployed through 653 00:28:50,529 --> 00:28:53,532 a hole in the concrete provides a first look 654 00:28:53,565 --> 00:28:55,935 at what's buried below. 655 00:28:57,203 --> 00:28:57,804 - [Amaryllis] Yeah there you can see the water 656 00:28:57,837 --> 00:28:58,838 right at the bottom there. 657 00:28:58,871 --> 00:29:00,773 - Water water water, uh, 658 00:29:00,807 --> 00:29:02,875 pull back. - Wait, go back. 659 00:29:04,811 --> 00:29:06,045 - A little more. 660 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:08,414 Yeah there's, - Oh yeah. 661 00:29:08,447 --> 00:29:09,982 - definitely a void. 662 00:29:10,016 --> 00:29:10,682 - There's definitely a void. 663 00:29:10,716 --> 00:29:12,051 - Can you go in a little bit? 664 00:29:12,084 --> 00:29:14,320 (eerie music) All right, what's that? 665 00:29:14,353 --> 00:29:16,188 - [Amaryllis] Look like, bone? 666 00:29:16,222 --> 00:29:20,526 - Looks like textile. - Textile of some kind. 667 00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:23,229 - I wonder if what this thing that what I'm saying is textile 668 00:29:23,262 --> 00:29:25,865 could be an intervertebral disc or something. 669 00:29:25,898 --> 00:29:29,568 - You think we could be looking at backbone, right there? 670 00:29:29,601 --> 00:29:31,303 - That could be bone. 671 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,308 Uh, it could be the spine. 672 00:29:36,342 --> 00:29:37,476 - Are you shitting me? 673 00:29:37,509 --> 00:29:39,578 - [Sam] We need to open up something that's big enough 674 00:29:39,611 --> 00:29:41,147 we can actually see. 675 00:29:45,517 --> 00:29:47,286 (energetic music) 676 00:29:47,319 --> 00:29:49,388 - [Narrator] A diamond-core drill cuts through 677 00:29:49,421 --> 00:29:52,458 the hardened concrete to reveal a larger window 678 00:29:52,491 --> 00:29:54,160 into the void beneath. 679 00:29:56,863 --> 00:29:57,964 - [Amaryllis] That hole's pretty big, 680 00:29:57,997 --> 00:30:00,900 let's get down there and take a look. 681 00:30:03,402 --> 00:30:04,570 - Ready to start the pump? 682 00:30:04,603 --> 00:30:06,205 - [Man] We're ready. 683 00:30:10,609 --> 00:30:12,544 - [Narrator] A pump clears out four inches 684 00:30:12,578 --> 00:30:15,948 of stagnant water within the cavity. 685 00:30:15,982 --> 00:30:18,384 (tense music) 686 00:30:18,417 --> 00:30:20,552 - [Tim] Sam I see a bone. 687 00:30:20,586 --> 00:30:22,621 Can you see that? - I do see a bone. 688 00:30:22,654 --> 00:30:26,325 (dramatic music) 689 00:30:26,358 --> 00:30:29,561 - Was that a bone? - Oh wait, hold on. 690 00:30:29,595 --> 00:30:31,563 - [Narrator] 10 feet underground, 691 00:30:31,597 --> 00:30:35,534 at the alleged grave site of infamous murderer H. H. Holmes. 692 00:30:35,567 --> 00:30:37,970 - Yes, oh yeah, we got vertebra. 693 00:30:38,004 --> 00:30:39,371 - There he is! - Wow! 694 00:30:39,405 --> 00:30:41,974 - [Sam] And we have an arm. 695 00:30:42,008 --> 00:30:45,611 - [Narrator] The investigation unearths a major discovery. 696 00:30:45,644 --> 00:30:49,115 - There is a human body in the slab of concrete. 697 00:30:49,148 --> 00:30:50,282 - Right. 698 00:30:50,316 --> 00:30:51,884 - Now the question is, is that your 699 00:30:51,918 --> 00:30:55,021 great great grandfather H. H. Holmes, and, 700 00:30:55,054 --> 00:30:58,290 is there any evidence to suggest that H. H. Holmes 701 00:30:58,324 --> 00:31:00,026 was Jack the Ripper? 702 00:31:00,059 --> 00:31:04,263 - If that's Holmes, it is certainly emotional, and, 703 00:31:04,296 --> 00:31:05,397 you know... 704 00:31:05,431 --> 00:31:07,266 - [Amaryllis] It's really striking if it is Holmes, 705 00:31:07,299 --> 00:31:11,103 that after killing so many innocent people 706 00:31:11,137 --> 00:31:13,472 he met his end just like everybody else. 707 00:31:13,505 --> 00:31:17,076 Here he lies, just tissue and bone. 708 00:31:17,109 --> 00:31:18,978 - I still believe that my great great grandfather 709 00:31:19,011 --> 00:31:22,348 escaped his own death, and these bones are someone else's. 710 00:31:22,381 --> 00:31:24,583 But the enormity of this moment is overwhelming. 711 00:31:24,616 --> 00:31:26,585 If these are the bones of that evil man, 712 00:31:26,618 --> 00:31:28,587 and even more so if they are not, 713 00:31:28,620 --> 00:31:31,323 it has enormous implications for me, 714 00:31:31,357 --> 00:31:32,624 and everything that I've been working 715 00:31:32,658 --> 00:31:34,994 toward these past 20 years. 716 00:31:37,063 --> 00:31:39,365 (mechanical whirring) 717 00:31:39,398 --> 00:31:40,532 - [Man] Recovery. 718 00:31:40,566 --> 00:31:42,234 - [Tim] Here's the lower jaw. 719 00:31:42,268 --> 00:31:44,236 (dramatic music) 720 00:31:44,270 --> 00:31:46,939 And here's his upper jaw. 721 00:31:46,973 --> 00:31:50,442 Can we get this off, I can peel the skull wrapping. 722 00:31:50,476 --> 00:31:51,944 There he is. -[Amaryllis] Wow. 723 00:31:51,978 --> 00:31:55,681 (dramatic music) - There he is. 724 00:31:55,714 --> 00:31:59,385 - We've now opened this up enough to be able to 725 00:31:59,418 --> 00:32:02,521 take these bones, get them to the lab if we can 726 00:32:02,554 --> 00:32:04,656 and get the final answer. 727 00:32:04,690 --> 00:32:07,493 Are we looking at your great great grandfather, 728 00:32:07,526 --> 00:32:10,629 and is that man Jack the Ripper? 729 00:32:10,662 --> 00:32:12,664 - [Sam] Once we have these samples, and if we can get 730 00:32:12,698 --> 00:32:15,167 some good DNA out of them, you know, 731 00:32:15,201 --> 00:32:18,270 that data is there, and we can test it against 732 00:32:18,304 --> 00:32:19,705 the Catherine Eddowes shall, you can test it against 733 00:32:19,738 --> 00:32:21,407 anything else in the future. 734 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,175 - Get the science to work to solve 735 00:32:23,209 --> 00:32:25,544 one of history's greatest unsolved mysteries. 736 00:32:25,577 --> 00:32:28,380 (dramatic music) 737 00:32:28,414 --> 00:32:31,150 (energetic music) 738 00:32:32,784 --> 00:32:34,620 Now that we have a body, and we don't know 739 00:32:34,653 --> 00:32:37,156 yet whether it's Holmes, I think we need to regroup with 740 00:32:37,189 --> 00:32:39,191 what we do know so far in the investigation. 741 00:32:39,225 --> 00:32:41,160 - Are you any closer to believing 742 00:32:41,193 --> 00:32:44,330 H. H. Holmes was Jack the Ripper? 743 00:32:44,363 --> 00:32:46,598 - I'll be honest with you, when you first 744 00:32:46,632 --> 00:32:49,568 brought this theory to me, there were so many 745 00:32:49,601 --> 00:32:52,538 reasons that I thought it was impossible, 746 00:32:52,571 --> 00:32:54,206 but through the months of this investigation 747 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,776 I've been blown away by the evidence that we've uncovered. 748 00:32:57,809 --> 00:33:00,212 The first thing I wanted to figure out was opportunity. 749 00:33:00,246 --> 00:33:03,349 Could Holmes have even committed these crimes? 750 00:33:03,382 --> 00:33:07,253 Holmes was busy, he has more of a paper trail 751 00:33:07,286 --> 00:33:09,521 than any cold case I've ever seen, 752 00:33:09,555 --> 00:33:12,558 and then the paper trail, bam, goes completely dead, 753 00:33:12,591 --> 00:33:14,493 right before the Ripper murders, 754 00:33:14,526 --> 00:33:16,695 and his paper trail picks back up in Chicago, 755 00:33:16,728 --> 00:33:19,198 in the beginning of 1889, when the Ripper murders 756 00:33:19,231 --> 00:33:21,667 have suddenly stopped in Whitechapel. 757 00:33:21,700 --> 00:33:24,336 It's a pretty good indicator he wasn't in Chicago, 758 00:33:24,370 --> 00:33:26,638 but, doesn't mean he was in London. 759 00:33:26,672 --> 00:33:28,607 And that's why the passenger manifests 760 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,410 were the next amazing piece of evidence. 761 00:33:31,443 --> 00:33:35,681 We have not only Holmes's name but Holmes's known aliases. 762 00:33:35,714 --> 00:33:37,549 Then, the mythology of Jack the Ripper says 763 00:33:37,583 --> 00:33:40,786 that he stopped killing in Whitechapel in 1888, 764 00:33:40,819 --> 00:33:43,155 but what we found in our investigation 765 00:33:43,189 --> 00:33:45,357 is there were many more Ripper-style killings, 766 00:33:45,391 --> 00:33:46,758 just not in Whitechapel. 767 00:33:46,792 --> 00:33:50,262 We have Carrie Brown, a couple years later in New York, 768 00:33:50,296 --> 00:33:52,564 found only a few blocks from Astor House, 769 00:33:52,598 --> 00:33:54,800 where Holmes was staying, and then, 770 00:33:54,833 --> 00:33:57,569 we found the coroner reports of victims killed 771 00:33:57,603 --> 00:34:01,740 in a Ripper-style in Chicago, that mysteriously begin 772 00:34:01,773 --> 00:34:06,578 when Holmes gets to Chicago, and end when he leaves town. 773 00:34:06,612 --> 00:34:08,280 Another objection I had at the beginning 774 00:34:08,314 --> 00:34:10,416 was that the method of killing was completely different. 775 00:34:10,449 --> 00:34:12,551 Right the mythology of the Ripper is that he's walking 776 00:34:12,584 --> 00:34:15,654 around the streets of London, slashing prostitutes to death. 777 00:34:15,687 --> 00:34:19,191 Holmes premeditated, he's built a murder castle. 778 00:34:19,225 --> 00:34:21,527 These seemed like very different methods of killing. 779 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:22,861 But that's the mythology. 780 00:34:22,894 --> 00:34:25,764 What we found reading the autopsy reports, 781 00:34:25,797 --> 00:34:27,666 is that wasn't the case at all. 782 00:34:27,699 --> 00:34:30,736 The Ripper asphyxiated every victim before 783 00:34:30,769 --> 00:34:31,803 he dissected them. 784 00:34:31,837 --> 00:34:36,074 That seems similar to Holmes' methods of killing. 785 00:34:37,443 --> 00:34:39,578 When I talked to the coroner in London, 786 00:34:39,611 --> 00:34:42,881 he estimated that the Ripper really had to have 787 00:34:42,914 --> 00:34:45,651 pretty significant surgical skill to be able 788 00:34:45,684 --> 00:34:46,852 to remove the organs in the time that 789 00:34:46,885 --> 00:34:48,053 he had available to him. 790 00:34:48,086 --> 00:34:53,392 So again, that seems closer to Holmes, the trained surgeon, 791 00:34:53,425 --> 00:34:55,194 than I believed when we got started. 792 00:34:55,227 --> 00:34:57,896 - Which was reiterated in some of the early police reports. 793 00:34:57,929 --> 00:35:00,732 -[Jeff] We should talk about the physical evidence we discovered. 794 00:35:00,766 --> 00:35:02,434 - Well, physical evidence has been hard to come by, 795 00:35:02,468 --> 00:35:04,603 but what's interesting is that none of it 796 00:35:04,636 --> 00:35:07,573 disproves your theory, for example the letters. 797 00:35:07,606 --> 00:35:11,343 Dear Boss, Saucy Jack, to hear the forensic linguists 798 00:35:11,377 --> 00:35:12,444 in London say that they were probably written 799 00:35:12,478 --> 00:35:16,215 by an American, well, that supports Scotland Yard's 800 00:35:16,248 --> 00:35:18,884 theory that Jack the Ripper was an American, 801 00:35:18,917 --> 00:35:22,354 and maybe your theory that he was H. H. Holmes. 802 00:35:22,388 --> 00:35:24,723 - The linguists said the very title of the letter, 803 00:35:24,756 --> 00:35:28,594 Dear Boss, was an American trying to sound English. 804 00:35:28,627 --> 00:35:30,329 - And then, there's the handwriting. 805 00:35:30,362 --> 00:35:32,598 Handwriting analyst says it's inconclusive, 806 00:35:32,631 --> 00:35:34,733 but the fact that a handwriting professional 807 00:35:34,766 --> 00:35:36,568 can not conclusively say that they were 808 00:35:36,602 --> 00:35:38,737 written by two different hands, 809 00:35:38,770 --> 00:35:40,672 is another piece of circumstantial evidence. 810 00:35:40,706 --> 00:35:44,243 - Right, and, we have 13 eyewitness accounts 811 00:35:44,276 --> 00:35:46,878 of what Jack the Ripper looked like. 812 00:35:46,912 --> 00:35:49,715 Five foot seven, roughly 150 pounds, 813 00:35:49,748 --> 00:35:51,750 25 to 35 years of age. 814 00:35:51,783 --> 00:35:55,454 Guess what, Holmes was five foot seven, 150 pounds, 815 00:35:55,487 --> 00:35:59,958 27 years of age during the Jack the Ripper murders. 816 00:35:59,991 --> 00:36:03,662 - What really shook me, was seeing the composite drawing 817 00:36:03,695 --> 00:36:06,432 based on those 13 eyewitness accounts 818 00:36:06,465 --> 00:36:09,335 and comparing it to real life photographs of Holmes, 819 00:36:09,368 --> 00:36:11,370 I mean that's a startling resemblance. 820 00:36:11,403 --> 00:36:12,771 - It's amazing. - Really rare even in 821 00:36:12,804 --> 00:36:15,241 a modern case to have 13 eyewitness reports, 822 00:36:15,274 --> 00:36:17,243 let alone in a cold case. 823 00:36:18,577 --> 00:36:20,712 I never imagined we'd uncover this much 824 00:36:20,746 --> 00:36:23,282 circumstantial evidence that points to Holmes. 825 00:36:23,315 --> 00:36:25,751 There are literally hundreds of Ripper suspects out there, 826 00:36:25,784 --> 00:36:27,986 and I doubt you'd find half as much circumstantial evidence 827 00:36:28,019 --> 00:36:29,488 pointing to any one of them as we've found 828 00:36:29,521 --> 00:36:30,456 pointing to Holmes. 829 00:36:30,489 --> 00:36:32,991 But we're still missing that smoking gun, 830 00:36:33,024 --> 00:36:35,994 and as an investigator, until we have hard proof 831 00:36:36,027 --> 00:36:38,297 that puts Holmes at the scene of a Ripper crime, 832 00:36:38,330 --> 00:36:40,599 or some other damning evidence comes to light 833 00:36:40,632 --> 00:36:42,601 that's been buried for over a century, 834 00:36:42,634 --> 00:36:44,636 I still can't say for sure that Holmes 835 00:36:44,670 --> 00:36:47,873 was Jack the Ripper, but I also can't say he wasn't. 836 00:36:47,906 --> 00:36:50,876 - We have a mountain of circumstantial evidence, 837 00:36:50,909 --> 00:36:52,911 we need to continue this investigation, 838 00:36:52,944 --> 00:36:54,546 we can't just stop here. 839 00:36:54,580 --> 00:36:56,014 - Now we just have to find out whether the body 840 00:36:56,047 --> 00:36:58,317 we dug up is Holmes or not. 841 00:37:01,453 --> 00:37:02,554 (birds chirping) 842 00:37:02,588 --> 00:37:04,323 (tense music) 843 00:37:04,356 --> 00:37:06,858 - So, this is our body. 844 00:37:06,892 --> 00:37:08,660 - [Sam] Yeah this is him. 845 00:37:08,694 --> 00:37:11,330 - He looks incredibly complete. 846 00:37:12,564 --> 00:37:14,366 - [Narrator] At the University of Pennsylvania, 847 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,768 the archeological team analyzes the bones 848 00:37:16,802 --> 00:37:20,539 recovered from the alleged grave site of H. H. Holmes. 849 00:37:20,572 --> 00:37:22,774 - Well, we've cleaned him up. 850 00:37:22,808 --> 00:37:24,443 Some of the bones are in great shape, 851 00:37:24,476 --> 00:37:26,645 some of the bones are in not so great shape. 852 00:37:26,678 --> 00:37:29,748 - [Narrator] The results of a DNA test may finally prove, 853 00:37:29,781 --> 00:37:32,718 that either these are the remains of H. H. Holmes, 854 00:37:32,751 --> 00:37:36,488 or that the master con man escaped his own death. 855 00:37:36,522 --> 00:37:39,458 A finding that if true, could support Jeff's theory 856 00:37:39,491 --> 00:37:42,561 that H. H. Holmes is Jack the Ripper. 857 00:37:42,594 --> 00:37:45,597 - It's a really emotional moment, 858 00:37:45,631 --> 00:37:49,635 to stand here and really be in the presence of 859 00:37:49,668 --> 00:37:52,471 a human who was buried in H. H. Holmes's grave, 860 00:37:52,504 --> 00:37:56,442 whether or not it's him, in what appears to be 861 00:37:56,475 --> 00:37:58,644 almost the complete body. 862 00:37:58,677 --> 00:38:02,548 Are you able to draw any conclusions based on 863 00:38:02,581 --> 00:38:06,685 the report we have of Holmes's body at the prison, 864 00:38:06,718 --> 00:38:09,555 and comparing that to the bones we have in front of us? 865 00:38:09,588 --> 00:38:13,359 - Yes, so we can say fairly sure that it's a male. 866 00:38:13,392 --> 00:38:16,428 If you look at the most telling part of the skeleton, 867 00:38:16,462 --> 00:38:17,729 it's usually the pelvis. 868 00:38:17,763 --> 00:38:19,631 Men usually have narrower longer hips, 869 00:38:19,665 --> 00:38:21,933 women have kind of shorter, wider hips. 870 00:38:21,967 --> 00:38:23,635 So if you look at this shape then you can see 871 00:38:23,669 --> 00:38:27,406 it's a pretty wide angle, and in females 872 00:38:27,439 --> 00:38:30,609 it's much tighter and narrower and sharper. 873 00:38:30,642 --> 00:38:33,512 - So in comparing this skeleton in front of us with Holmes, 874 00:38:33,545 --> 00:38:36,615 we know that he's a male, so check. 875 00:38:36,648 --> 00:38:40,686 Did the teeth give you any more conclusive evidence? 876 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,589 - Yeah, so as you age, and as you chew and you 877 00:38:43,622 --> 00:38:46,558 use your teeth, the enamel wears down and it gets flat. 878 00:38:46,592 --> 00:38:49,528 So there's a little bit of wear, so we know that 879 00:38:49,561 --> 00:38:51,730 the age on this skeleton is consistent with 880 00:38:51,763 --> 00:38:54,466 what we would expect for somebody basically 881 00:38:54,500 --> 00:38:56,668 in their mid- to late 30s. 882 00:38:56,702 --> 00:38:58,770 - Okay, so that checks out too. 883 00:38:58,804 --> 00:39:01,039 Now, this body was supposedly 884 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,709 executed by hanging. 885 00:39:05,010 --> 00:39:07,646 Is there anything to suggest that actually happened 886 00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:09,948 with the backbone or the skull? 887 00:39:09,981 --> 00:39:12,050 - There is no evidence of it on here. 888 00:39:12,083 --> 00:39:14,520 (tense music) And again that doesn't mean 889 00:39:14,553 --> 00:39:15,521 it didn't happen. 890 00:39:15,554 --> 00:39:19,691 So hanging is something, sometimes it causes 891 00:39:19,725 --> 00:39:23,762 trauma, skeletal trauma, and sometimes it doesn't. 892 00:39:23,795 --> 00:39:26,465 - Can we determine his height, based on the skeleton? 893 00:39:26,498 --> 00:39:27,633 - You know it's funny that you ask. 894 00:39:27,666 --> 00:39:30,936 I did the height estimate using two different methods, 895 00:39:30,969 --> 00:39:33,572 and both methods came out with a height estimate 896 00:39:33,605 --> 00:39:34,706 that was a little bit shorter than 897 00:39:34,740 --> 00:39:36,775 what we would have expected. 898 00:39:36,808 --> 00:39:39,445 - Really? - So the reports says 899 00:39:39,478 --> 00:39:45,183 he's five, 7 1/2, and what I reconstructed gave 900 00:39:45,216 --> 00:39:48,687 about five-four to five-five. 901 00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:51,156 - That's a pretty significant difference. 902 00:39:51,189 --> 00:39:52,858 - He seems to be quite well muscled too, 903 00:39:52,891 --> 00:39:54,526 which I was a little surprised, especially 904 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,628 looking at the photos, he just looks like a very kind of 905 00:39:56,662 --> 00:39:57,896 slender person- 906 00:39:57,929 --> 00:39:59,130 -[Amaryllis] He sure does, that's interesting. 907 00:39:59,164 --> 00:40:01,633 - and there's pretty good muscle, 908 00:40:01,667 --> 00:40:02,634 musculature, muscle development 909 00:40:02,668 --> 00:40:05,070 on a lot of these bones, they're pretty robust. 910 00:40:05,103 --> 00:40:07,639 - So, we know what Holmes looked like from photographs. 911 00:40:07,673 --> 00:40:11,610 We know how tall he was from media reports. 912 00:40:11,643 --> 00:40:14,045 We know about his activity level, 913 00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:17,749 and the way that he conducted his daily life. 914 00:40:17,783 --> 00:40:20,919 And those things don't seem to match up as well. 915 00:40:20,952 --> 00:40:22,988 - I feel like I've been investigating my ancestor's 916 00:40:23,021 --> 00:40:25,757 dark history for most of my adult life. 917 00:40:25,791 --> 00:40:27,859 Holmes terrorized victims over two decades, 918 00:40:27,893 --> 00:40:30,562 In Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, 919 00:40:30,596 --> 00:40:32,631 Indiana, possibly London, 920 00:40:32,664 --> 00:40:35,701 and if the bones from the grave site aren't his, 921 00:40:35,734 --> 00:40:39,605 we've only scratched the surface of this monster's story. 922 00:40:39,638 --> 00:40:41,673 - [Amaryllis] So it sounds like we have some DNA to extract. 923 00:40:41,707 --> 00:40:43,709 - Yeah we do, we'll get set up, and do that. 924 00:40:43,742 --> 00:40:44,776 - [Amaryllis] Great. 925 00:40:44,810 --> 00:40:45,644 (high-speed whirring) -[Narrator] The best chance 926 00:40:45,677 --> 00:40:47,879 to extract a clean sample from bones 927 00:40:47,913 --> 00:40:51,717 of this age is to target the dense portions of the skeleton. 928 00:40:51,750 --> 00:40:53,852 The team removes a sample from the inner ear, 929 00:40:53,885 --> 00:40:56,555 which it will send to King's College in London, 930 00:40:56,588 --> 00:40:58,690 one of only three places in the world 931 00:40:58,724 --> 00:41:02,060 with the technology to analyze ancient DNA. 932 00:41:02,093 --> 00:41:04,796 There the lab will compare the DNA from the remains 933 00:41:04,830 --> 00:41:07,499 to the DNA sample from Jeff to determine 934 00:41:07,533 --> 00:41:10,569 if the body recovered is H. H. Holmes. 935 00:41:11,970 --> 00:41:14,973 - All right, so that's our sample, that powder there, 936 00:41:15,006 --> 00:41:19,244 either contains or does not contain DNA that matches you. 937 00:41:19,277 --> 00:41:21,680 - [Jeff] We've come a long way in our investigation. 938 00:41:21,713 --> 00:41:24,716 - [Sam] I think we're gonna get the DNA sent off to the lab, 939 00:41:24,750 --> 00:41:27,052 and we'll let you know what they say. 940 00:41:27,085 --> 00:41:31,590 - Um, I appreciate your help, and I eagerly await the results. 941 00:41:33,692 --> 00:41:36,795 (haunting tense music) 942 00:41:48,807 --> 00:41:51,142 This doesn't deter me from my investigation. 943 00:41:51,176 --> 00:41:52,844 There are too many coincidences for this 944 00:41:52,878 --> 00:41:54,846 to be another bogus theory. 945 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,615 At each stage of this investigation, 946 00:41:56,648 --> 00:41:59,050 we've uncovered new evidence which peels back 947 00:41:59,084 --> 00:42:03,321 yet another layer of this 130-year old mystery. 948 00:42:03,354 --> 00:42:05,757 For some people, the identity of Jack the Ripper 949 00:42:05,791 --> 00:42:08,226 is just sensationalized true crime, 950 00:42:08,259 --> 00:42:09,861 but for me it's coming to terms with where 951 00:42:09,895 --> 00:42:12,097 I come from, my origin. 952 00:42:12,130 --> 00:42:15,767 I know that the evidence is out there to prove my theory, 953 00:42:15,801 --> 00:42:17,869 and I'm not going to give up until I find it. 954 00:42:17,903 --> 00:42:20,538 (dramatic music) 75402

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