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- [Bill] So right from
that edge.
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- [Saml] I think it's
nine feet all the way
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to the headstone,
we measured earlier.
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-[Jeff] We haven't found a
body, and we're down
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to levels where it should be.
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- [Amaryllis] There there
there there there there...
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- [Jeff] The Holmes story
hasn't been told yet,
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this is just the
opening chapter.
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- This is crazy.
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- [Narrator] Previously,
on American Ripper.
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- From what we've
learned, there is not
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as dramatic a
difference between these
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two killers as I had thought.
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- All of this stuff I believe
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point to a connection
with Holmes.
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- Have you ever heard
of the Holmes' curse?
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- [Jeff] A lot of people
involved with the case
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mysteriously died
after the execution.
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- Each of these are Jack
the Ripper style murders
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after Holmes's execution,
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in cities that
Holmes has a link to.
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- It's compelling evidence
that Holmes escaped
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his death and execution.
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His estate purchased two
graves and they buried
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him in the center--
- Is it unusual for
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one person to
purchase two plots?
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- [Bill Giffin] It's very
unusual.
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- The only way I'm
going to find out if
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H. H. Holmes may actually
be Jack the Ripper
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is to see what, if
anything, is buried here.
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- Are you talking about
actually digging up
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your great great grandfather?
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(dramatic music)
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- I can't believe
we're on the verge of
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actually digging the grave up,
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where my great great
grandfather's allegedly buried,
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potentially coming up with
a major piece of evidence.
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- [Narrator] Former CIA
operative Amaryllis Fox
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and Jeff Mudgett,
descendant of H. H. Holmes,
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are investigating
the life and death
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of the notorious
con man and killer.
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- I'm on pins and needles.
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- [Narrator] They're
seeking permission to
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excavate Holmes's grave site,
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hunting for answers to
the mysteries that have
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surrounded the case
for over a century.
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- Well we've been on
this journey for so long,
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following every
footstep of this man,
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to come, potentially face
to face with evidence
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of the greatest con
he ever committed
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really feels like like
an enormous next ste
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- [Narrator] H. H.
Holmes becomes America's
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most infamous celebrity
when he's finally arrested
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in November, 1894.
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Hearst newspapers pay
him $7500 to write his
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exclusive confessions while
imprisoned in Philadelphia.
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The payout is equivalent
to $250,000 today,
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a fortune that some
believe Holmes uses
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to bribe guards,
prison officials,
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and possibly even enlist a
body double in the scheme
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to escape his death sentence.
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- What's exciting for
me as an investigator is
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that at most crime
scenes you don't know
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whether you're going
to find anything.
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Here at the grave site, really
there are only three options
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and every one of them
tells us something.
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Possibility number one,
we open up the grave
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and we find a body in there
and that body is Holmes.
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Holmes is in his grave.
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Does that mean he
wasn't Jack the Ripper?
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Not necessarily.
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But it does mean that the
Baddy Street eyewitness
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who claims to have
seen Jack the Ripper
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25 years later, was
not looking at Holmes.
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And it does mean that
the Ripper-style murders
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after Holmes was executed were
not carried out by Holmes.
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- All right.
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Number two, a body is
found, but it's not Holmes.
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- Right, so this would
be consistent with him
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switching out the
bodies at the gallows,
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like the newspaper article
suggests that he did,
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and some other--
- Completely anonymous.
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- Poor cadaver is
buried in his place.
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So if that's the case,
that would be a lot more
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consistent with Holmes
being Jack the Ripper
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because then Holmes
would have walked away
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able to conduct
all of those other
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Jack the Ripper-style
killings that happened
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after Holmes's execution.
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- Which walks right
into the Holmes' curse.
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- [Narrator] Central to
the theory that Holmes
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escapes his execution is
a strange series of events
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that occur in the years
following May, 1896,
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when the Judge, the
Prison Superintendent,
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the witness for the
prosecution and at least
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eight others involved
in Holmes's case,
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die or disappear under
unexplained circumstances.
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- Every one of those deaths,
and mysterious accounts
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of those people
involved in his trial,
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they were visited by Holmes.
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They were murdered by Holmes.
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(tense music)
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There's a third possibility.
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- All right, possibility
number three.
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There is no body at all.
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- Now what difference
does an empty grave have
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with a different body
than Holmes in the grave?
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- The difference is
probably just the scale
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of the conspiracy, I mean
if that grave is empty,
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a whole lot of people
were in on this,
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because there are media
reports that say he was
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lying in his coffin,
the concrete was laid on
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top of him in front
of God and everyone.
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If all of those were
fabricated then we're
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looking at a big
conspiracy here.
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But, whatever's down there,
the one thing that's clear
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is that Holmes didn't
want us to find it.
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- Yep.
- We know that he
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bought a double
plot, that's unusual.
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We know that it
was dug extra deep,
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that's unusual, and
we know they're there,
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it seems to be concrete
designed to prevent us,
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125 years later,
digging it open.
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- It's evidence, that Holmes
was trying to hide something.
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- Yeah, well all we can do is
wait for permission to dig.
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And now we've got the ball
rolling on the exhumation,
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I really want to get
back into that box
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of mementos that we
found in Irvington.
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I heard back from the
facial recognition expert
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who was comparing the photos
that his results are in.
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- Great, let's go!
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(tense music)
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- So we built the technology
that can take a 2D image
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and build a 3D structure
from that 2D image.
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- [Narrator] During
their investigation into
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the murder of Howard
Pitezel, Jeff and Amaryllis
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uncovered a collection
of items reportedly
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left behind after Holmes fled
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Irvington, Indiana
in October, 1894.
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The box includes medical
tools manufactured in England.
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A program from Holmes's
medical school graduation,
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and dozens of
photographs of people
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who appear to be
linked to H. H. Holmes.
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- [Sean] Then we can also
take two separate images,
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and then be able to
compare two objects.
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- [Narrator] They've enlisted
a facial recognition expert
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to authenticate the
photographs by comparing them
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to known images or
sketches of people involved
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in both the Holmes and
Jack the Ripper cases.
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- Okay so this is sort
of like a control.
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We have a real sketch
of Minnie Williams,
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so I suppose it
was in a newspaper,
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and then this photo,
the real photo of Minnie
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and a sketch of Minnie.
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- So in theory this
would be the kind of
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perfect match control
group that we'll
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compare the other
matches against?
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- [Sean] Yes.
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- [Narrator] Commercial
photography is introduced
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in 1839
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but printing technology
is so limited at the time,
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that daily newspapers
do not widely publish
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photographs until the 1900s.
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To represent key
figures in a news story,
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the papers rely on
artists' sketches,
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sourced from known
portraits or photos.
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- Minnie Williams was one
of Holmes's mistresses,
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and eventual victim.
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By comparing a known
photograph of her
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with a newspaper
sketch, we can get
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a baseline for what a positive
match should look like.
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- So first we're gonna
take a look at the eyes,
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and the eyebrows and kind
of start from top down.
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And so the things that
are looking similar here
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is the eyebrow hair
growth pattern is short,
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and then, looking at the
eye, you know you have
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the upper eyelid shape,
and then you also have
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this area underneath the
eye that's casting a shadow.
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- So what kind of a score
would this comparison, earn?
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- 64 1/2%.
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- Wow so that's
actually a strong match,
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if 64% is between two known
likenesses of the same person.
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So that's what we're
aiming for, really.
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If there's a positive
match between any photo
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in this box and one of Holmes's
accomplices or victims,
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makes it a lot more likely
the box belonged to Holmes.
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- Okay, so we're gonna
take a look at Pat Quinlan.
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There's actually one
photo in this box
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who seems to look at
lot like Pat Quinlan
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and the only photo we have
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of Pat Quinlan is this sketch.
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-[Jeff] Quinlan was his
henchman, at the murder castle,
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and I believe that's
a courtroom drawing,
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identified by the
newspaper as Pat Quinlan.
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- You know what's interesting
here is that chin,
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as I'm just looking at it,
it's got a dimple in it,
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and the nose looks similar
especially in the nostril flare.
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And, our morphological
analysis comes up with 62 1/2%.
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- [Amaryllis] Whoa.
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- [Jeff] So that's fairly high.
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- It is fairly high when
you take into account
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the kind of imagery
that we were using.
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We're using a very old photo
with limited dynamic range,
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and then we're using
that sketch with kind of
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entirely different
set of dynamic ranges.
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- I've been researching
my great great grandfather
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for over 20 years,
and in all that time
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I've never come across an
original photo of Pat Quinlan.
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Up until now the only
surviving image of him
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was this sketch, published
in the newspapers
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during the Holmes trial.
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So finding what could be
the only known photo of him
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in a place Holmes spent
time and received photos,
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convinces me the box
belonged to Holmes.
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Is there anything
else in the box,
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of the photos that we sent
you that might tie Holmes
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with Jack the Ripper?
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- I did find
something interesting.
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- That would be an enormous
leap forward for us
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in our investigation.
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- [Sean] So I'm gonna
start by loading up
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a photo you sent me,
the tintype photo.
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- From the Holmes box
we found in Irvington?
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- Okay, so here's a woman,
the overall face shape
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is very similar, all the
way through the jaw line
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and the chin, and the
shape of the mouth,
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as well as the nose shape.
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This is a known photo
of Elizabeth Stride.
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(tense music)
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- One of Jack's five
canonical victims.
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- She was number three.
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- [Narrator] In the
investigation to link
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Jack the Ripper and
H. H. Holmes,
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an analysis of photos that
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reportedly belonged to
Holmes himself
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reveals a surprising
result, a potential
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facial match between an
image in the collection
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and a photo of a Jack
the Ripper victim.
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- What number did
you come up with for
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these two photographs?
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- Pretty high score, 64 1/2%.
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- Whoa, wait so we
have a 64% match
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with one of Jack's
victims in a box,
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that's associated
with H. H. Holmes.
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That's the highest
score we've had so far,
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except for when we
compared two images
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of the same person
to each other.
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- Right.
- We are a huge step
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closer to nailing down that
Holmes was Jack the Ripper.
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(dramatic music)
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If Holmes wasn't the Ripper,
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how would he have gotten
the picture, at that time,
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of Elizabeth Stride?
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- There's no doubt that if
that photo is Elizabeth Stride,
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this is very serious evidence
in support of your theory.
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It's a strong match, given
the age of the photograph.
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- When we started
this investigation,
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I thought I knew everything
there was to know
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about H. H. Holmes, but
we've uncovered so much
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I didn't expect to find,
I'm now more convinced
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than ever that my
theory is true.
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Right now our best
chance of finally finding
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the evidence we need,
is to dig up that grave.
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All we can do now is wait.
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(tense music)
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- [Narrator] The process
to exhume a grave site
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can take months, and
is strictly regulated.
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Permission to dig
requires both agreement
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from all surviving relatives,
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and a court order
from a presiding judge
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in the local jurisdiction.
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- Now I think the
testimony went really well,
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I think the consents
you got helped a lot.
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- [Narrator] At the office
of Philadelphia attorney,
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Doug Maloney, Jeff
and Amaryllis receive
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the long awaited verdict.
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- The judge approved the
petition, we're good to go.
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- You're kidding!
- Nope.
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- Doug that's great news.
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It's the culmination of 20
years of work on my part,
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and quite frankly I never
thought we'd actually
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receive permission
to exhume his grave.
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- Now we still have to comply
with a lot of conditions.
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All right they were
concerned about what happens
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during the exhumation process,
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they want to make
sure that the remains
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are treated respectfully,
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they want to make sure
that we conduct this
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in accordance with the best
scientific protocol available,
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we're gonna have the
Department of Anthropology
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from Penn start the exhumation
process within 72 hours.
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- 72 hours?
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Are you kidding, we
better get started.
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(tense music)
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- [Jeff] Now we're talking.
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- [Narrator] Breaking ground
at the H. H. Holmes grave site
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for the first time
since his alleged burial
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121 year ago, Jeff,
Amaryllis and a team
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of archeologists are
working to expose
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the secrets behind one of
history's greatest mysteries.
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- We have no idea what's
gonna really be in there
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it's either going to be empty,
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which is a possibility,
or we could find
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either a skeleton or a mummy.
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- [Jeff] It amazes me that
we're on the verge of opening up
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something which was
never to be opened again.
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(resolute music)
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- 19th century law enforcement
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thought that Holmes's
murder spree ended
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on the day he was
executed, May 7th of 1896,
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but the Jack the Ripper-style
killings we found
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in newspaper reports
continued after
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Holmes's supposed execution.
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So one way of proving that
Holmes was Jack the Ripper,
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is proving he escaped his
own execution and burial.
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While I think this
is a long shot,
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I'm gonna remain open minded.
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That's a really big--
- What's that?
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What's that right there?
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Are you sure that's
not concrete?
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- [Tim] Let's take a look.
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- [Sam] Hey.
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- [Jeff] That looks
like concrete.
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- [Sam] I think
it's just more clay.
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- [Tim] Solidified.
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- We saw the cemetery
records from 1896,
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that revealed Holmes's
unusual last requests.
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He purchased two burial
plots, and insisted
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that his coffin be
encased in concrete.
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I'm convinced that
these bizarre requests
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were all part of his
plan to con his way
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out of his own execution.
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- It's possible as
we keep going deeper
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we'll get into more of the gray,
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and it could be the
concrete that's never set.
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- [Man] All right
Joe, start it up!
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- [Sam] All right.
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(tense music)
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- [Sam] Quite often you
dig up things in
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cemeteries that are nothing
what you expected them to be.
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- [Bill] Like in the case here.
- [Sam] Right.
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- [Bill] Whoo, that
hole's getting bigger.
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- [Sam] Yep.
- [Bill] Oh, we just went
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another foot, yep.
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- So I'm seeing a crack
over here in the wall,
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of the adjoining
grave, and it looks,
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it looks dangerous to me,
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and I don't think we should
go any further with this.
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I've got a shoring team waiting,
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and I'm gonna go over
and get them to work.
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So, nothing else is
disturbed on either side.
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(tense music)
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Ah, keep it going.
-[Worker] Get that back end.
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All right.
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(tense music)
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- All the records we've
found indicates that
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Holmes is buried in a
concrete filled coffin,
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in this grave.
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We're at six feet down,
and so far it's empty.
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- [Amaryllis] How deep
are the grave sites here?
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- The graves on
either side are eight,
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which really mean that
you should be hitting
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the top of the coffin.
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- Actually we got one more
foot and we should be hitting.
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This is an important scoop.
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- That is definitely
a color change!
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- Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa
whoa, don't go too deep!
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It almost sounded like
you hit something solid.
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(chattering)
- We've hit concrete.
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- All right I think we
should quit using the backhoe
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and start getting down there
a little more delicate.
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- Why don't we put it--
- What are you gonna
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want, shovels and buckets?
- Yeah.
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- Earlier in our
investigation we uncovered
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that Holmes owned a cement
factory back in Chicago,
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and he was possibly encasing
his victims in concrete
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and dumping them in the river.
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So it's pretty strange
to hear that his own
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bizarre burial request
included filling
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his own grave with concrete.
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What we don't know is how the
concrete was actually used.
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The ambiguity in the reports
just deepens the mystery
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about what if anything
is buried here.
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- [Jeff] What are
you seeing Sam?
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- We've got this really
strong color change.
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- Yep.
- Between the gray
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and the orange, so
this should be where
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they dug the original grave.
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- [Amaryllis] So that
would be the grave cut we
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were looking for?
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- Yeah, so this is what
we've been looking for,
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the whole time.
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If I can just pop this off,
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right here.
- Oh man look!
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- There's the corner,
- Looks like,
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- right there.
- yep we got a corner.
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- [Jeff] Can you
show me a corner?
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- [Sam] You know
here's the corner.
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You can see we've already
got the end of the coffin.
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- So this is Holmes's coffin,
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that we're looking
at right here.
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- We've definitely found a box.
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- [Jeff] Holy mackerel!
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(tense music)
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- [Narrator] Six feet
under, an unmarked grave.
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The team uncovers the
first sign of what could be
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the coffin of America's first
serial killer, H. H. Holmes.
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The question is, what, if
anything, is buried inside?
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- The only way we're gonna
know is to keep digging.
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- Yep.
- Yeah.
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(tense music)
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- We found what we
were looking for,
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a concrete filled coffin
buried between two
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adjacent plots, just like
the newspaper report said.
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We could be inches away from
the body of H. H. Holmes.
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- Assuming the body was put in
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in the orientation
we expect it to be,
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the head should be on this end,
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and the feet should
be on that end.
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So, we're expecting down there
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to try and hit the feet first,
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hoping, we can get the toes,
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and then follow the bones
up the skeleton from there.
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- Follow it up.
- Yep.
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- All right.
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-[Narrator] The archeological
team
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switches to hand tools
to excavate the coffin.
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The plan is to remove the
concrete section by section,
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to carefully expose any bones
or remains encased inside.
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- Sam have you hit bottom there,
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do you have any sense
about how deep it goes?
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- We're down maybe eight
inches, from the top of it,
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and so far we have
nothing but concrete.
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- No artifacts,
no human remains?
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- Nothing.
- [Amaryllis] OK how can I help?
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- Trying to keep an eye out
really for just anything
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that's different, 'cause
we don't know what
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to expect in here.
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- And once we find one
piece of human remains,
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will you then have
a better sense
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of what you're looking for?
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- For sure, yeah.
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- [Jeff] Unearthing Holmes's
grave could overturn
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everything history tells us
about this man and his crimes.
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Dozens of unsolved murders
took place after 1896,
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in cities where Holmes was
active during his life.
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- [Sam] Where are
you, you bastard...
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- So if there's nothing
here, or if the body
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in the grave isn't
Holmes, we're one step
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closer to proving Holmes
is Jack the Ripper.
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(tense music)
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Hey guys, could you
hold up a moment?
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We know Holmes was about
five foot seven inches tall.
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I'd like to know where, if his
head is up against the end,
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where his feet should
be at five foot seven.
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- So we know the end
of the box is a little,
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at least a little
bit into this wall,
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so we're measuring
about six feet,
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and if possible he moved
around within the concrete.
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- [Narrator] A wood-framed
concrete filled coffin
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is seven feet long.
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18 inches at the foot of the
coffin is clear of concrete,
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with no sign of remains.
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If five-foot seven H. H. Holmes
is buried in this casket,
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the team should be
just inches away
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from the first evidence of bone.
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(tense music)
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00:20:35,302 --> 00:20:38,371
- Now, I don't want to push
this, you know my theory.
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- Yeah.
- But we haven't found a body
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and we're down to levels
where it should be.
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- I don't disagree with
you, and it's getting,
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it's a little bit discouraging
we haven't found one yet.
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- As an archeologist I know
you want to find bones,
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and I really believed
with near certainty
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that we would find them.
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All the newspapers
suggest that H. H. Holmes
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is buried here, all signs
pointed to H. H. Holmes's feet
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being here and his
head being right there.
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- Yep.
- But I gotta say I mean,
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we're down to the bottom
of this box and there's
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no sign of him yet.
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I, I, I'm really dumbfounded,
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but I think the bastard
might have walked away.
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(dramatic music)
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- [Narrator] At a
cemetery six miles
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outside of Philadelphia,
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eight feet deep
beneath the surface
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of an unmarked grave
reported to be
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00:21:34,594 --> 00:21:38,498
the final resting place of
murderous con man H. H. Holmes.
491
00:21:38,531 --> 00:21:39,866
- [Sam] I think we're done.
492
00:21:39,899 --> 00:21:40,900
- I guess that's it.
493
00:21:40,933 --> 00:21:43,370
- [Narrator] The excavation
of a concrete coffin
494
00:21:43,403 --> 00:21:46,673
reveals no body buried inside.
495
00:21:46,706 --> 00:21:48,775
- At eight feet deep
we've come to the bottom
496
00:21:48,808 --> 00:21:52,745
of an empty coffin, without
finding a single bone,
497
00:21:52,779 --> 00:21:56,516
which to me is proof,
Holmes escaped his death.
498
00:21:58,017 --> 00:22:00,653
(tense music)
499
00:22:02,021 --> 00:22:04,023
- We're thinking it's
one of three options.
500
00:22:04,056 --> 00:22:06,826
Either he escaped his own death,
501
00:22:06,859 --> 00:22:10,930
which is hard for a logical
investigator to accept.
502
00:22:10,963 --> 00:22:12,765
He's buried somewhere else,
503
00:22:12,799 --> 00:22:15,134
or there's something even
deeper in that grave.
504
00:22:15,167 --> 00:22:17,537
- Yeah, I think the key
thing you said is that
505
00:22:17,570 --> 00:22:19,972
we're not at the bottom
of Holmes' grave.
506
00:22:20,006 --> 00:22:22,675
- The theory that H. H.
Holmes escaped his own death
507
00:22:22,709 --> 00:22:25,077
seems outlandish to me.
508
00:22:25,111 --> 00:22:28,715
So far there is no
evidence of a body, but,
509
00:22:28,748 --> 00:22:30,082
newspaper reports from the time
510
00:22:30,116 --> 00:22:31,851
and cemetery records
suggest that Holmes
511
00:22:31,884 --> 00:22:34,153
requested to be
buried extra deep.
512
00:22:34,186 --> 00:22:36,489
This coffin may not be the end.
513
00:22:36,523 --> 00:22:39,392
(tense music)
514
00:22:39,426 --> 00:22:41,794
- [Narrator] In the
1800s, bodies are usually
515
00:22:41,828 --> 00:22:44,897
interred six feet
beneath the ground.
516
00:22:44,931 --> 00:22:47,133
Now, at a depth of
more than eight feet,
517
00:22:47,166 --> 00:22:49,135
the exhumation pushes on.
518
00:22:50,570 --> 00:22:54,140
(electric whining)
(mechanical grinding)
519
00:22:54,173 --> 00:22:55,808
- It's hard.
- It's hard?
520
00:22:55,842 --> 00:22:56,909
- It's hard.
521
00:22:56,943 --> 00:22:58,411
(electric whining)
522
00:22:58,445 --> 00:23:00,713
(thumping)
523
00:23:00,747 --> 00:23:01,548
- [Tim] Wow.
- [Sam] Wow.
524
00:23:01,581 --> 00:23:02,982
- [Sam] Okay.
525
00:23:03,015 --> 00:23:05,051
- Okay, I mean for a comparison,
526
00:23:05,084 --> 00:23:08,087
if I lean on this,
and I put it in here,
527
00:23:10,857 --> 00:23:12,659
(thumping)
- Wow.
528
00:23:12,692 --> 00:23:13,893
- That's not dirt.
529
00:23:13,926 --> 00:23:15,428
- It's hard.
- It's sticking.
530
00:23:15,462 --> 00:23:16,328
All right.
- Should I see if I
531
00:23:16,362 --> 00:23:18,197
can drill it, is it
wood, or concrete?
532
00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:19,699
- Will it drill?
- Yeah, try.
533
00:23:19,732 --> 00:23:20,567
- You can try it.
534
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,436
(electric whining)
535
00:23:24,737 --> 00:23:25,772
- [Amaryllis] Oh, did
it go through something?
536
00:23:25,805 --> 00:23:26,305
- Wait, we just
- We just went
537
00:23:26,338 --> 00:23:27,206
- through something.
538
00:23:27,239 --> 00:23:29,208
- We just broke into
an opening, yeah.
539
00:23:29,241 --> 00:23:31,878
- You mean another box?
540
00:23:31,911 --> 00:23:33,913
- I drilled, it felt like
wood, then it broke through,
541
00:23:33,946 --> 00:23:35,782
into an opening.
542
00:23:35,815 --> 00:23:36,916
- Well, we broke
through something.
543
00:23:36,949 --> 00:23:38,985
- It broke through something.
- Into, another opening.
544
00:23:39,018 --> 00:23:41,754
(tense music)
545
00:23:41,788 --> 00:23:44,557
So, do you think that
wood, the second wood
546
00:23:44,591 --> 00:23:47,960
that you went through,
could be his coffin?
547
00:23:48,995 --> 00:23:50,897
- It's wood, it could be.
548
00:23:50,930 --> 00:23:52,932
- That is so weird.
549
00:23:52,965 --> 00:23:54,967
(sighing)
- This is crazy.
550
00:23:55,001 --> 00:23:56,636
(chuckling)
- And we thought
551
00:23:56,669 --> 00:23:57,504
we were done.
552
00:23:57,537 --> 00:23:58,337
- [Jeff] Let's cut
through the wood,
553
00:23:58,370 --> 00:24:00,206
and see what' down there.
- Right.
554
00:24:00,239 --> 00:24:04,210
(heavy whirring)
(mechanical grinding)
555
00:24:08,548 --> 00:24:10,583
(tense music)
556
00:24:10,617 --> 00:24:12,785
- [Narrator] Beneath the
floor of the pine box,
557
00:24:12,819 --> 00:24:15,021
is a second layer of wood.
558
00:24:15,054 --> 00:24:18,991
(heavy whirring)
(mechanical grinding)
559
00:24:23,930 --> 00:24:24,731
- Look!
- Water.
560
00:24:24,764 --> 00:24:26,165
- Water.
- Wow.
561
00:24:26,198 --> 00:24:28,768
- We got water, lots of water.
562
00:24:30,169 --> 00:24:31,904
- [Narrator] The deeper
the grave, the more
563
00:24:31,938 --> 00:24:33,773
vulnerable it is
to water backing up
564
00:24:33,806 --> 00:24:35,942
through the ground
during heavy rains.
565
00:24:35,975 --> 00:24:38,244
At this depth,
stagnant water can have
566
00:24:38,277 --> 00:24:41,614
a destructive effect on remains.
567
00:24:41,648 --> 00:24:42,448
- [Tim] Yeah I've
seen that before.
568
00:24:42,481 --> 00:24:45,051
- What's underneath,
how deep is it?
569
00:24:45,084 --> 00:24:46,953
- Oh it's not very deep.
- Yeah.
570
00:24:46,986 --> 00:24:48,621
- [Amaryllis] What
does it feel like?
571
00:24:48,655 --> 00:24:51,157
- It's pretty, it's hard,
it feels like concrete.
572
00:24:51,190 --> 00:24:54,060
I mean, it's hard, but it's
not like totally smooth.
573
00:24:54,093 --> 00:24:55,828
- We're almost to the
bottom of a 10-foot grave,
574
00:24:55,862 --> 00:24:57,997
and we have hardened
concrete which is exactly
575
00:24:58,030 --> 00:24:59,966
what the report said we'd find.
576
00:24:59,999 --> 00:25:02,769
We were basically just
thrown off by a fake
577
00:25:02,802 --> 00:25:04,937
empty pine box at
the eight foot mark.
578
00:25:04,971 --> 00:25:06,038
- Exactly, yeah.
579
00:25:08,007 --> 00:25:09,876
- He's a con man to the last.
580
00:25:09,909 --> 00:25:12,078
(tense music)
581
00:25:14,647 --> 00:25:16,816
- [Narrator] The excavation
reveals a two-foot deep
582
00:25:16,849 --> 00:25:19,552
concrete coffin with no remains,
583
00:25:19,586 --> 00:25:22,855
which may have been a decoy
to ward off grave robbers.
584
00:25:22,889 --> 00:25:26,092
Beneath the pine box is
a second layer of wood,
585
00:25:26,125 --> 00:25:30,196
two inches thick, concealing
another block of concrete,
586
00:25:30,229 --> 00:25:32,732
which appears to be hardened.
587
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,167
- [Sam] Yep we got wood.
588
00:25:35,201 --> 00:25:37,036
Oh yeah, so you got the
589
00:25:37,069 --> 00:25:38,170
crack right here,
590
00:25:40,006 --> 00:25:41,140
see that, and then--
- [Tim] Got you down
591
00:25:41,173 --> 00:25:42,709
about 10 foot,
- [Sam] This is wood.
592
00:25:42,742 --> 00:25:43,576
- [Tim] more or less.
593
00:25:43,610 --> 00:25:45,945
- [Sam] So I think
this is the side.
594
00:25:45,978 --> 00:25:48,781
We've removed all the soil
that was on this side,
595
00:25:48,815 --> 00:25:51,851
and we are down to
what looks like the lid
596
00:25:51,884 --> 00:25:53,620
of a second coffin.
597
00:25:54,887 --> 00:25:57,156
And then the really cool thing
is we seem to have a latch,
598
00:25:57,189 --> 00:25:59,892
right here, that
would be used to,
599
00:25:59,926 --> 00:26:02,128
attach the lid to the coffin.
600
00:26:02,161 --> 00:26:04,997
The weird thing is that
all the newspapers say
601
00:26:05,031 --> 00:26:09,068
Holmes's casket did not have
a lid, when he was buried.
602
00:26:09,101 --> 00:26:11,103
- Interesting.
603
00:26:11,137 --> 00:26:14,006
I wonder if whether
that was to hide
604
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,809
his body from grave
robbers, or it was to hide
605
00:26:16,843 --> 00:26:20,813
some other secret that
might lie right beneath us.
606
00:26:20,847 --> 00:26:23,015
(tense music)
607
00:26:31,023 --> 00:26:34,794
Wow Sam, the upper box is
really completely removed now,
608
00:26:34,827 --> 00:26:39,832
and from up here,
it really looks like
609
00:26:39,866 --> 00:26:41,934
a lid to a casket down there.
610
00:26:44,103 --> 00:26:48,407
- Every step we take
another secret is revealed,
611
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,143
and I really don't know
what the final result's
612
00:26:51,177 --> 00:26:52,712
gonna be yet.
613
00:26:52,745 --> 00:26:54,246
- [Sam] No I don't know
that any of us do.
614
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,249
- I want to see
whether when we lift up
615
00:26:57,283 --> 00:26:58,685
that casket lid,
616
00:26:59,952 --> 00:27:02,021
he's under there,
or whether we have a
617
00:27:02,054 --> 00:27:08,127
second empty box on our hands.
618
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,197
(power tool rumbling)
619
00:27:12,699 --> 00:27:14,133
- [Tim] Just take it real slow.
620
00:27:14,166 --> 00:27:16,869
- We're, opening his front
door right now.
621
00:27:16,903 --> 00:27:18,370
(tense music)
622
00:27:18,404 --> 00:27:19,972
- [Amaryllis] Are you ready?
623
00:27:20,006 --> 00:27:20,773
- Yeah.
624
00:27:24,076 --> 00:27:25,011
There you go.
625
00:27:28,214 --> 00:27:31,951
-[Jeff] There's chills going up
and down my spine right now.
626
00:27:33,319 --> 00:27:37,023
(dramatic music)
627
00:27:37,056 --> 00:27:38,925
- [Narrator] Eight feet
beneath the surface,
628
00:27:38,958 --> 00:27:41,894
buried under a box of
concrete two feet thick.
629
00:27:41,928 --> 00:27:43,796
- [Man] And it's
sliding right off.
630
00:27:43,830 --> 00:27:45,698
- [Narrator] A casket
believed to hold the remains
631
00:27:45,732 --> 00:27:47,767
of H. H. Holmes is being opened
632
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,402
for the first time in 121 years.
633
00:27:51,938 --> 00:27:53,940
- All right guys just slow
down a little bit now.
634
00:27:53,973 --> 00:27:56,008
Let's all stop a minute.
635
00:27:56,042 --> 00:27:58,044
- That's not dirt.
636
00:27:58,077 --> 00:27:59,746
That's another concrete block.
637
00:27:59,779 --> 00:28:01,948
- Oh boy.
- Now let's all catch
638
00:28:01,981 --> 00:28:06,018
our breath, let Sam figure out
the smartest next move, okay?
639
00:28:06,052 --> 00:28:07,353
- Yeah.
640
00:28:07,386 --> 00:28:09,789
At every stage of this
investigation we've uncovered
641
00:28:09,822 --> 00:28:12,859
stories of Holmes's
single-minded genius,
642
00:28:12,892 --> 00:28:14,994
always outsmarting
everyone around him,
643
00:28:15,027 --> 00:28:17,496
from creditors to
his numerous wives,
644
00:28:17,529 --> 00:28:21,467
to law enforcement, and
now, maybe outsmarting us.
645
00:28:23,269 --> 00:28:26,773
- I'm ready to start
drilling, and, get in there.
646
00:28:26,806 --> 00:28:28,975
(tense music)
647
00:28:29,008 --> 00:28:32,311
(stony grinding)
648
00:28:32,344 --> 00:28:35,782
- [Narrator] At eight feet,
beneath the decoy box,
649
00:28:35,815 --> 00:28:39,718
sits a second casket, containing
a sold block of concrete.
650
00:28:45,858 --> 00:28:47,126
- [Man] Okay, here we go.
651
00:28:47,159 --> 00:28:48,494
- [Sam] All right.
652
00:28:48,527 --> 00:28:50,496
- [Narrator] A Burrowscope
camera deployed through
653
00:28:50,529 --> 00:28:53,532
a hole in the concrete
provides a first look
654
00:28:53,565 --> 00:28:55,935
at what's buried below.
655
00:28:57,203 --> 00:28:57,804
- [Amaryllis] Yeah there
you can see the water
656
00:28:57,837 --> 00:28:58,838
right at the bottom there.
657
00:28:58,871 --> 00:29:00,773
- Water water water, uh,
658
00:29:00,807 --> 00:29:02,875
pull back.
- Wait, go back.
659
00:29:04,811 --> 00:29:06,045
- A little more.
660
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:08,414
Yeah there's,
- Oh yeah.
661
00:29:08,447 --> 00:29:09,982
- definitely a void.
662
00:29:10,016 --> 00:29:10,682
- There's definitely a void.
663
00:29:10,716 --> 00:29:12,051
- Can you go in a little bit?
664
00:29:12,084 --> 00:29:14,320
(eerie music)
All right, what's that?
665
00:29:14,353 --> 00:29:16,188
- [Amaryllis] Look
like, bone?
666
00:29:16,222 --> 00:29:20,526
- Looks like textile.
- Textile of some kind.
667
00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:23,229
- I wonder if what this thing
that what I'm saying is textile
668
00:29:23,262 --> 00:29:25,865
could be an intervertebral
disc or something.
669
00:29:25,898 --> 00:29:29,568
- You think we could be looking
at backbone, right there?
670
00:29:29,601 --> 00:29:31,303
- That could be bone.
671
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,308
Uh, it could be the spine.
672
00:29:36,342 --> 00:29:37,476
- Are you shitting me?
673
00:29:37,509 --> 00:29:39,578
- [Sam] We need to open up
something that's big enough
674
00:29:39,611 --> 00:29:41,147
we can actually see.
675
00:29:45,517 --> 00:29:47,286
(energetic music)
676
00:29:47,319 --> 00:29:49,388
- [Narrator] A diamond-core
drill cuts through
677
00:29:49,421 --> 00:29:52,458
the hardened concrete to
reveal a larger window
678
00:29:52,491 --> 00:29:54,160
into the void beneath.
679
00:29:56,863 --> 00:29:57,964
- [Amaryllis] That
hole's pretty big,
680
00:29:57,997 --> 00:30:00,900
let's get down there
and take a look.
681
00:30:03,402 --> 00:30:04,570
- Ready to start the pump?
682
00:30:04,603 --> 00:30:06,205
- [Man] We're ready.
683
00:30:10,609 --> 00:30:12,544
- [Narrator] A pump
clears out four inches
684
00:30:12,578 --> 00:30:15,948
of stagnant water
within the cavity.
685
00:30:15,982 --> 00:30:18,384
(tense music)
686
00:30:18,417 --> 00:30:20,552
- [Tim] Sam I see a bone.
687
00:30:20,586 --> 00:30:22,621
Can you see that?
- I do see a bone.
688
00:30:22,654 --> 00:30:26,325
(dramatic music)
689
00:30:26,358 --> 00:30:29,561
- Was that a bone?
- Oh wait, hold on.
690
00:30:29,595 --> 00:30:31,563
- [Narrator] 10
feet underground,
691
00:30:31,597 --> 00:30:35,534
at the alleged grave site of
infamous murderer H. H. Holmes.
692
00:30:35,567 --> 00:30:37,970
- Yes, oh yeah, we got vertebra.
693
00:30:38,004 --> 00:30:39,371
- There he is!
- Wow!
694
00:30:39,405 --> 00:30:41,974
- [Sam] And we have an arm.
695
00:30:42,008 --> 00:30:45,611
- [Narrator] The investigation
unearths a major discovery.
696
00:30:45,644 --> 00:30:49,115
- There is a human body
in the slab of concrete.
697
00:30:49,148 --> 00:30:50,282
- Right.
698
00:30:50,316 --> 00:30:51,884
- Now the question
is, is that your
699
00:30:51,918 --> 00:30:55,021
great great grandfather
H. H. Holmes, and,
700
00:30:55,054 --> 00:30:58,290
is there any evidence to
suggest that H. H. Holmes
701
00:30:58,324 --> 00:31:00,026
was Jack the Ripper?
702
00:31:00,059 --> 00:31:04,263
- If that's Holmes, it is
certainly emotional, and,
703
00:31:04,296 --> 00:31:05,397
you know...
704
00:31:05,431 --> 00:31:07,266
- [Amaryllis] It's really
striking if it is Holmes,
705
00:31:07,299 --> 00:31:11,103
that after killing so
many innocent people
706
00:31:11,137 --> 00:31:13,472
he met his end
just like everybody else.
707
00:31:13,505 --> 00:31:17,076
Here he lies, just
tissue and bone.
708
00:31:17,109 --> 00:31:18,978
- I still believe that my
great great grandfather
709
00:31:19,011 --> 00:31:22,348
escaped his own death, and
these bones are someone else's.
710
00:31:22,381 --> 00:31:24,583
But the enormity of this
moment is overwhelming.
711
00:31:24,616 --> 00:31:26,585
If these are the bones
of that evil man,
712
00:31:26,618 --> 00:31:28,587
and even more so
if they are not,
713
00:31:28,620 --> 00:31:31,323
it has enormous
implications for me,
714
00:31:31,357 --> 00:31:32,624
and everything that
I've been working
715
00:31:32,658 --> 00:31:34,994
toward these past 20 years.
716
00:31:37,063 --> 00:31:39,365
(mechanical whirring)
717
00:31:39,398 --> 00:31:40,532
- [Man] Recovery.
718
00:31:40,566 --> 00:31:42,234
- [Tim] Here's the lower jaw.
719
00:31:42,268 --> 00:31:44,236
(dramatic music)
720
00:31:44,270 --> 00:31:46,939
And here's his upper jaw.
721
00:31:46,973 --> 00:31:50,442
Can we get this off, I can
peel the skull wrapping.
722
00:31:50,476 --> 00:31:51,944
There he is.
-[Amaryllis] Wow.
723
00:31:51,978 --> 00:31:55,681
(dramatic music)
- There he is.
724
00:31:55,714 --> 00:31:59,385
- We've now opened this
up enough to be able to
725
00:31:59,418 --> 00:32:02,521
take these bones, get them
to the lab if we can
726
00:32:02,554 --> 00:32:04,656
and get the final answer.
727
00:32:04,690 --> 00:32:07,493
Are we looking at your
great great grandfather,
728
00:32:07,526 --> 00:32:10,629
and is that man Jack the Ripper?
729
00:32:10,662 --> 00:32:12,664
- [Sam] Once we have these
samples, and if we can get
730
00:32:12,698 --> 00:32:15,167
some good DNA out
of them, you know,
731
00:32:15,201 --> 00:32:18,270
that data is there, and
we can test it against
732
00:32:18,304 --> 00:32:19,705
the Catherine Eddowes shall,
you can test it against
733
00:32:19,738 --> 00:32:21,407
anything else in the future.
734
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,175
- Get the science
to work to solve
735
00:32:23,209 --> 00:32:25,544
one of history's greatest
unsolved mysteries.
736
00:32:25,577 --> 00:32:28,380
(dramatic music)
737
00:32:28,414 --> 00:32:31,150
(energetic music)
738
00:32:32,784 --> 00:32:34,620
Now that we have a
body, and we don't know
739
00:32:34,653 --> 00:32:37,156
yet whether it's Holmes, I
think we need to regroup with
740
00:32:37,189 --> 00:32:39,191
what we do know so far
in the investigation.
741
00:32:39,225 --> 00:32:41,160
- Are you any
closer to believing
742
00:32:41,193 --> 00:32:44,330
H. H. Holmes was
Jack the Ripper?
743
00:32:44,363 --> 00:32:46,598
- I'll be honest with
you, when you first
744
00:32:46,632 --> 00:32:49,568
brought this theory to
me, there were so many
745
00:32:49,601 --> 00:32:52,538
reasons that I thought
it was impossible,
746
00:32:52,571 --> 00:32:54,206
but through the months
of this investigation
747
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,776
I've been blown away by the
evidence that we've uncovered.
748
00:32:57,809 --> 00:33:00,212
The first thing I wanted to
figure out was opportunity.
749
00:33:00,246 --> 00:33:03,349
Could Holmes have even
committed these crimes?
750
00:33:03,382 --> 00:33:07,253
Holmes was busy, he has
more of a paper trail
751
00:33:07,286 --> 00:33:09,521
than any cold case
I've ever seen,
752
00:33:09,555 --> 00:33:12,558
and then the paper trail,
bam, goes completely dead,
753
00:33:12,591 --> 00:33:14,493
right before the Ripper murders,
754
00:33:14,526 --> 00:33:16,695
and his paper trail
picks back up in Chicago,
755
00:33:16,728 --> 00:33:19,198
in the beginning of 1889,
when the Ripper murders
756
00:33:19,231 --> 00:33:21,667
have suddenly stopped
in Whitechapel.
757
00:33:21,700 --> 00:33:24,336
It's a pretty good indicator
he wasn't in Chicago,
758
00:33:24,370 --> 00:33:26,638
but, doesn't mean
he was in London.
759
00:33:26,672 --> 00:33:28,607
And that's why the
passenger manifests
760
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,410
were the next amazing
piece of evidence.
761
00:33:31,443 --> 00:33:35,681
We have not only Holmes's name
but Holmes's known aliases.
762
00:33:35,714 --> 00:33:37,549
Then, the mythology of
Jack the Ripper says
763
00:33:37,583 --> 00:33:40,786
that he stopped killing
in Whitechapel in 1888,
764
00:33:40,819 --> 00:33:43,155
but what we found
in our investigation
765
00:33:43,189 --> 00:33:45,357
is there were many more
Ripper-style killings,
766
00:33:45,391 --> 00:33:46,758
just not in Whitechapel.
767
00:33:46,792 --> 00:33:50,262
We have Carrie Brown, a couple
years later in New York,
768
00:33:50,296 --> 00:33:52,564
found only a few blocks
from Astor House,
769
00:33:52,598 --> 00:33:54,800
where Holmes was
staying, and then,
770
00:33:54,833 --> 00:33:57,569
we found the coroner
reports of victims killed
771
00:33:57,603 --> 00:34:01,740
in a Ripper-style in Chicago,
that mysteriously begin
772
00:34:01,773 --> 00:34:06,578
when Holmes gets to Chicago,
and end when he leaves town.
773
00:34:06,612 --> 00:34:08,280
Another objection I
had at the beginning
774
00:34:08,314 --> 00:34:10,416
was that the method of killing
was completely different.
775
00:34:10,449 --> 00:34:12,551
Right the mythology of the
Ripper is that he's walking
776
00:34:12,584 --> 00:34:15,654
around the streets of London,
slashing prostitutes to death.
777
00:34:15,687 --> 00:34:19,191
Holmes premeditated, he's
built a murder castle.
778
00:34:19,225 --> 00:34:21,527
These seemed like very
different methods of killing.
779
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:22,861
But that's the mythology.
780
00:34:22,894 --> 00:34:25,764
What we found reading
the autopsy reports,
781
00:34:25,797 --> 00:34:27,666
is that wasn't the case at all.
782
00:34:27,699 --> 00:34:30,736
The Ripper asphyxiated
every victim before
783
00:34:30,769 --> 00:34:31,803
he dissected them.
784
00:34:31,837 --> 00:34:36,074
That seems similar to
Holmes' methods of killing.
785
00:34:37,443 --> 00:34:39,578
When I talked to the
coroner in London,
786
00:34:39,611 --> 00:34:42,881
he estimated that the
Ripper really had to have
787
00:34:42,914 --> 00:34:45,651
pretty significant
surgical skill to be able
788
00:34:45,684 --> 00:34:46,852
to remove the organs
in the time that
789
00:34:46,885 --> 00:34:48,053
he had available to him.
790
00:34:48,086 --> 00:34:53,392
So again, that seems closer to
Holmes, the trained surgeon,
791
00:34:53,425 --> 00:34:55,194
than I believed
when we got started.
792
00:34:55,227 --> 00:34:57,896
- Which was reiterated in some
of the early police reports.
793
00:34:57,929 --> 00:35:00,732
-[Jeff] We should talk about the
physical evidence we discovered.
794
00:35:00,766 --> 00:35:02,434
- Well, physical evidence
has been hard to come by,
795
00:35:02,468 --> 00:35:04,603
but what's interesting
is that none of it
796
00:35:04,636 --> 00:35:07,573
disproves your theory,
for example the letters.
797
00:35:07,606 --> 00:35:11,343
Dear Boss, Saucy Jack, to
hear the forensic linguists
798
00:35:11,377 --> 00:35:12,444
in London say that they
were probably written
799
00:35:12,478 --> 00:35:16,215
by an American, well, that
supports Scotland Yard's
800
00:35:16,248 --> 00:35:18,884
theory that Jack the
Ripper was an American,
801
00:35:18,917 --> 00:35:22,354
and maybe your theory
that he was H. H. Holmes.
802
00:35:22,388 --> 00:35:24,723
- The linguists said the
very title of the letter,
803
00:35:24,756 --> 00:35:28,594
Dear Boss, was an American
trying to sound English.
804
00:35:28,627 --> 00:35:30,329
- And then, there's
the handwriting.
805
00:35:30,362 --> 00:35:32,598
Handwriting analyst
says it's inconclusive,
806
00:35:32,631 --> 00:35:34,733
but the fact that a
handwriting professional
807
00:35:34,766 --> 00:35:36,568
can not conclusively
say that they were
808
00:35:36,602 --> 00:35:38,737
written by two different hands,
809
00:35:38,770 --> 00:35:40,672
is another piece of
circumstantial evidence.
810
00:35:40,706 --> 00:35:44,243
- Right, and, we have
13 eyewitness accounts
811
00:35:44,276 --> 00:35:46,878
of what Jack the
Ripper looked like.
812
00:35:46,912 --> 00:35:49,715
Five foot seven,
roughly 150 pounds,
813
00:35:49,748 --> 00:35:51,750
25 to 35 years of age.
814
00:35:51,783 --> 00:35:55,454
Guess what, Holmes was five
foot seven, 150 pounds,
815
00:35:55,487 --> 00:35:59,958
27 years of age during the
Jack the Ripper murders.
816
00:35:59,991 --> 00:36:03,662
- What really shook me, was
seeing the composite drawing
817
00:36:03,695 --> 00:36:06,432
based on those 13
eyewitness accounts
818
00:36:06,465 --> 00:36:09,335
and comparing it to real
life photographs of Holmes,
819
00:36:09,368 --> 00:36:11,370
I mean that's a
startling resemblance.
820
00:36:11,403 --> 00:36:12,771
- It's amazing.
- Really rare even in
821
00:36:12,804 --> 00:36:15,241
a modern case to have
13 eyewitness reports,
822
00:36:15,274 --> 00:36:17,243
let alone in a cold case.
823
00:36:18,577 --> 00:36:20,712
I never imagined we'd
uncover this much
824
00:36:20,746 --> 00:36:23,282
circumstantial evidence
that points to Holmes.
825
00:36:23,315 --> 00:36:25,751
There are literally hundreds
of Ripper suspects out there,
826
00:36:25,784 --> 00:36:27,986
and I doubt you'd find half as
much circumstantial evidence
827
00:36:28,019 --> 00:36:29,488
pointing to any one
of them as we've found
828
00:36:29,521 --> 00:36:30,456
pointing to Holmes.
829
00:36:30,489 --> 00:36:32,991
But we're still missing
that smoking gun,
830
00:36:33,024 --> 00:36:35,994
and as an investigator,
until we have hard proof
831
00:36:36,027 --> 00:36:38,297
that puts Holmes at the
scene of a Ripper crime,
832
00:36:38,330 --> 00:36:40,599
or some other damning
evidence comes to light
833
00:36:40,632 --> 00:36:42,601
that's been buried
for over a century,
834
00:36:42,634 --> 00:36:44,636
I still can't say
for sure that Holmes
835
00:36:44,670 --> 00:36:47,873
was Jack the Ripper, but I
also can't say he wasn't.
836
00:36:47,906 --> 00:36:50,876
- We have a mountain of
circumstantial evidence,
837
00:36:50,909 --> 00:36:52,911
we need to continue
this investigation,
838
00:36:52,944 --> 00:36:54,546
we can't just stop here.
839
00:36:54,580 --> 00:36:56,014
- Now we just have to
find out whether the body
840
00:36:56,047 --> 00:36:58,317
we dug up is Holmes or not.
841
00:37:01,453 --> 00:37:02,554
(birds chirping)
842
00:37:02,588 --> 00:37:04,323
(tense music)
843
00:37:04,356 --> 00:37:06,858
- So, this is our body.
844
00:37:06,892 --> 00:37:08,660
- [Sam] Yeah this is him.
845
00:37:08,694 --> 00:37:11,330
- He looks incredibly complete.
846
00:37:12,564 --> 00:37:14,366
- [Narrator] At the
University of Pennsylvania,
847
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,768
the archeological team
analyzes the bones
848
00:37:16,802 --> 00:37:20,539
recovered from the alleged
grave site of H. H. Holmes.
849
00:37:20,572 --> 00:37:22,774
- Well, we've cleaned him up.
850
00:37:22,808 --> 00:37:24,443
Some of the bones
are in great shape,
851
00:37:24,476 --> 00:37:26,645
some of the bones are
in not so great shape.
852
00:37:26,678 --> 00:37:29,748
- [Narrator] The results of
a DNA test may finally prove,
853
00:37:29,781 --> 00:37:32,718
that either these are the
remains of H. H. Holmes,
854
00:37:32,751 --> 00:37:36,488
or that the master con
man escaped his own death.
855
00:37:36,522 --> 00:37:39,458
A finding that if true,
could support Jeff's theory
856
00:37:39,491 --> 00:37:42,561
that H. H. Holmes
is Jack the Ripper.
857
00:37:42,594 --> 00:37:45,597
- It's a really
emotional moment,
858
00:37:45,631 --> 00:37:49,635
to stand here and really
be in the presence of
859
00:37:49,668 --> 00:37:52,471
a human who was buried
in H. H. Holmes's grave,
860
00:37:52,504 --> 00:37:56,442
whether or not it's him,
in what appears to be
861
00:37:56,475 --> 00:37:58,644
almost the complete body.
862
00:37:58,677 --> 00:38:02,548
Are you able to draw
any conclusions based on
863
00:38:02,581 --> 00:38:06,685
the report we have of
Holmes's body at the prison,
864
00:38:06,718 --> 00:38:09,555
and comparing that to the
bones we have in front of us?
865
00:38:09,588 --> 00:38:13,359
- Yes, so we can say fairly
sure that it's a male.
866
00:38:13,392 --> 00:38:16,428
If you look at the most
telling part of the skeleton,
867
00:38:16,462 --> 00:38:17,729
it's usually the pelvis.
868
00:38:17,763 --> 00:38:19,631
Men usually have
narrower longer hips,
869
00:38:19,665 --> 00:38:21,933
women have kind of
shorter, wider hips.
870
00:38:21,967 --> 00:38:23,635
So if you look at this
shape then you can see
871
00:38:23,669 --> 00:38:27,406
it's a pretty wide
angle, and in females
872
00:38:27,439 --> 00:38:30,609
it's much tighter and
narrower and sharper.
873
00:38:30,642 --> 00:38:33,512
- So in comparing this skeleton
in front of us with Holmes,
874
00:38:33,545 --> 00:38:36,615
we know that he's
a male, so check.
875
00:38:36,648 --> 00:38:40,686
Did the teeth give you any
more conclusive evidence?
876
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,589
- Yeah, so as you age,
and as you chew and you
877
00:38:43,622 --> 00:38:46,558
use your teeth, the enamel
wears down and it gets flat.
878
00:38:46,592 --> 00:38:49,528
So there's a little bit
of wear, so we know that
879
00:38:49,561 --> 00:38:51,730
the age on this skeleton
is consistent with
880
00:38:51,763 --> 00:38:54,466
what we would expect
for somebody basically
881
00:38:54,500 --> 00:38:56,668
in their mid- to late 30s.
882
00:38:56,702 --> 00:38:58,770
- Okay, so that checks out too.
883
00:38:58,804 --> 00:39:01,039
Now, this body was supposedly
884
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,709
executed by hanging.
885
00:39:05,010 --> 00:39:07,646
Is there anything to suggest
that actually happened
886
00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:09,948
with the backbone or the skull?
887
00:39:09,981 --> 00:39:12,050
- There is no evidence
of it on here.
888
00:39:12,083 --> 00:39:14,520
(tense music)
And again that doesn't mean
889
00:39:14,553 --> 00:39:15,521
it didn't happen.
890
00:39:15,554 --> 00:39:19,691
So hanging is something,
sometimes it causes
891
00:39:19,725 --> 00:39:23,762
trauma, skeletal trauma,
and sometimes it doesn't.
892
00:39:23,795 --> 00:39:26,465
- Can we determine his
height, based on the skeleton?
893
00:39:26,498 --> 00:39:27,633
- You know it's
funny that you ask.
894
00:39:27,666 --> 00:39:30,936
I did the height estimate
using two different methods,
895
00:39:30,969 --> 00:39:33,572
and both methods came out
with a height estimate
896
00:39:33,605 --> 00:39:34,706
that was a little
bit shorter than
897
00:39:34,740 --> 00:39:36,775
what we would have expected.
898
00:39:36,808 --> 00:39:39,445
- Really?
- So the reports says
899
00:39:39,478 --> 00:39:45,183
he's five, 7 1/2, and
what I reconstructed gave
900
00:39:45,216 --> 00:39:48,687
about five-four to five-five.
901
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:51,156
- That's a pretty
significant difference.
902
00:39:51,189 --> 00:39:52,858
- He seems to be quite
well muscled too,
903
00:39:52,891 --> 00:39:54,526
which I was a little
surprised, especially
904
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,628
looking at the photos, he
just looks like a very kind of
905
00:39:56,662 --> 00:39:57,896
slender person-
906
00:39:57,929 --> 00:39:59,130
-[Amaryllis] He sure does,
that's interesting.
907
00:39:59,164 --> 00:40:01,633
- and there's pretty
good muscle,
908
00:40:01,667 --> 00:40:02,634
musculature,
muscle development
909
00:40:02,668 --> 00:40:05,070
on a lot of these bones,
they're pretty robust.
910
00:40:05,103 --> 00:40:07,639
- So, we know what Holmes
looked like from photographs.
911
00:40:07,673 --> 00:40:11,610
We know how tall he
was from media reports.
912
00:40:11,643 --> 00:40:14,045
We know about his
activity level,
913
00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:17,749
and the way that he
conducted his daily life.
914
00:40:17,783 --> 00:40:20,919
And those things don't
seem to match up as well.
915
00:40:20,952 --> 00:40:22,988
- I feel like I've been
investigating my ancestor's
916
00:40:23,021 --> 00:40:25,757
dark history for most
of my adult life.
917
00:40:25,791 --> 00:40:27,859
Holmes terrorized
victims over two decades,
918
00:40:27,893 --> 00:40:30,562
In Chicago, New
York, Philadelphia,
919
00:40:30,596 --> 00:40:32,631
Indiana, possibly London,
920
00:40:32,664 --> 00:40:35,701
and if the bones from the
grave site aren't his,
921
00:40:35,734 --> 00:40:39,605
we've only scratched the
surface of this monster's story.
922
00:40:39,638 --> 00:40:41,673
- [Amaryllis] So it sounds like
we have some DNA to extract.
923
00:40:41,707 --> 00:40:43,709
- Yeah we do, we'll get
set up, and do that.
924
00:40:43,742 --> 00:40:44,776
- [Amaryllis] Great.
925
00:40:44,810 --> 00:40:45,644
(high-speed whirring)
-[Narrator] The best chance
926
00:40:45,677 --> 00:40:47,879
to extract a clean
sample from bones
927
00:40:47,913 --> 00:40:51,717
of this age is to target the
dense portions of the skeleton.
928
00:40:51,750 --> 00:40:53,852
The team removes a sample
from the inner ear,
929
00:40:53,885 --> 00:40:56,555
which it will send to
King's College in London,
930
00:40:56,588 --> 00:40:58,690
one of only three
places in the world
931
00:40:58,724 --> 00:41:02,060
with the technology to
analyze ancient DNA.
932
00:41:02,093 --> 00:41:04,796
There the lab will compare
the DNA from the remains
933
00:41:04,830 --> 00:41:07,499
to the DNA sample
from Jeff to determine
934
00:41:07,533 --> 00:41:10,569
if the body recovered
is H. H. Holmes.
935
00:41:11,970 --> 00:41:14,973
- All right, so that's our
sample, that powder there,
936
00:41:15,006 --> 00:41:19,244
either contains or does not
contain DNA that matches you.
937
00:41:19,277 --> 00:41:21,680
- [Jeff] We've come a long
way in our investigation.
938
00:41:21,713 --> 00:41:24,716
- [Sam] I think we're gonna get
the DNA sent off to the lab,
939
00:41:24,750 --> 00:41:27,052
and we'll let you
know what they say.
940
00:41:27,085 --> 00:41:31,590
- Um, I appreciate your help,
and I eagerly await the results.
941
00:41:33,692 --> 00:41:36,795
(haunting tense music)
942
00:41:48,807 --> 00:41:51,142
This doesn't deter me
from my investigation.
943
00:41:51,176 --> 00:41:52,844
There are too many
coincidences for this
944
00:41:52,878 --> 00:41:54,846
to be another bogus theory.
945
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,615
At each stage of
this investigation,
946
00:41:56,648 --> 00:41:59,050
we've uncovered new
evidence which peels back
947
00:41:59,084 --> 00:42:03,321
yet another layer of this
130-year old mystery.
948
00:42:03,354 --> 00:42:05,757
For some people, the
identity of Jack the Ripper
949
00:42:05,791 --> 00:42:08,226
is just sensationalized
true crime,
950
00:42:08,259 --> 00:42:09,861
but for me it's coming
to terms with where
951
00:42:09,895 --> 00:42:12,097
I come from, my origin.
952
00:42:12,130 --> 00:42:15,767
I know that the evidence is
out there to prove my theory,
953
00:42:15,801 --> 00:42:17,869
and I'm not going to
give up until I find it.
954
00:42:17,903 --> 00:42:20,538
(dramatic music)
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