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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,001 --> 00:00:04,572 Previously on American Ripper. 2 00:00:04,605 --> 00:00:05,573 - There were at least 60 lawsuits 3 00:00:05,606 --> 00:00:08,176 against Holmes in Chicago alone. 4 00:00:08,209 --> 00:00:10,411 By getting out of town, he could let a lot of the heat off. 5 00:00:10,444 --> 00:00:12,446 - If Holmes is going to be Jack the Ripper, 6 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,448 he needs to be the kind of killer 7 00:00:14,482 --> 00:00:18,119 who is comfortable going on the road to kill. 8 00:00:18,152 --> 00:00:20,354 - He would have to get rid of the Pitezel children. 9 00:00:20,388 --> 00:00:24,325 And on the outskirts of Indianapolis, Howard went first. 10 00:00:27,728 --> 00:00:29,463 - The blade I actually believe is Jack the Ripper's knife 11 00:00:29,497 --> 00:00:30,030 was a surgical knife. 12 00:00:30,064 --> 00:00:32,700 It was a doctor's knife. 13 00:00:32,733 --> 00:00:34,302 - [Paige] Here I can show you what a knife wound 14 00:00:34,335 --> 00:00:37,071 would look like on the rib of a young adult female 15 00:00:37,105 --> 00:00:40,074 and I think it will leave a very thin, clean cut there. 16 00:00:40,108 --> 00:00:43,344 - If we find a bone where we're able to identify 17 00:00:43,377 --> 00:00:45,646 a surgical knife has been used, then the manner of killing 18 00:00:45,679 --> 00:00:48,716 begins to look a lot more like Jack the Ripper's. 19 00:00:48,749 --> 00:00:51,485 - Howard Pitezel and his potential remains 20 00:00:51,519 --> 00:00:52,486 could be the answer. 21 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:53,387 - We got another button. 22 00:00:53,421 --> 00:00:54,822 - [Amaryllis] Oh, wow. 23 00:00:54,855 --> 00:00:56,457 It is a matching set. 24 00:00:56,490 --> 00:00:58,392 - What's the white that I'm seeing? 25 00:00:58,426 --> 00:00:59,360 - Right there? 26 00:01:01,262 --> 00:01:03,097 - [Amy] That's bone. 27 00:01:13,441 --> 00:01:14,742 - [Amaryllis] That's bone? - [Amy] Yeah. 28 00:01:14,775 --> 00:01:15,643 - [Amaryllis] So we've found bone now. 29 00:01:15,676 --> 00:01:16,710 - [Amy] Yeah. 30 00:01:16,744 --> 00:01:17,878 - Holy... 31 00:01:17,911 --> 00:01:20,548 - [Narrator] Investigating the theory that the mastermind 32 00:01:20,581 --> 00:01:23,617 of Chicago's murder castle, H.H. Holmes 33 00:01:23,651 --> 00:01:26,854 and London's infamous Jack the Ripper are the same man, 34 00:01:26,887 --> 00:01:29,890 Jeff Mudgett and Amaryllis Fox may have just unearthed 35 00:01:29,923 --> 00:01:32,426 what may be the first new piece of evidence 36 00:01:32,460 --> 00:01:35,396 in the Holmes case in over a century. 37 00:01:35,429 --> 00:01:36,730 - [Amy] It's a little small. 38 00:01:36,764 --> 00:01:37,765 It could be a finger bone. 39 00:01:37,798 --> 00:01:39,567 It could be a hand bone. 40 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,335 - Finding physical evidence from a Holmes' victim 41 00:01:41,369 --> 00:01:42,503 has been the white whale 42 00:01:42,536 --> 00:01:44,172 of this investigation from the start. 43 00:01:44,205 --> 00:01:45,806 10-year-old Howard Pitezel 44 00:01:45,839 --> 00:01:47,741 was one of Holmes's final victims, 45 00:01:47,775 --> 00:01:50,678 but only a small portion of his remains were ever recovered. 46 00:01:50,711 --> 00:01:54,448 The rest were scattered around the property and never found. 47 00:01:56,417 --> 00:01:57,485 - Oh, oh, oh. 48 00:01:57,518 --> 00:01:58,319 Amy, Amy. 49 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,155 - Do we have something? 50 00:02:01,189 --> 00:02:02,456 - It looks like something. 51 00:02:02,490 --> 00:02:03,691 - [Amaryllis] Let's see what we have here. 52 00:02:03,724 --> 00:02:05,493 It's definitely bone. 53 00:02:05,526 --> 00:02:06,360 - Whoa, wait a minute. 54 00:02:06,394 --> 00:02:08,196 Whoa. 55 00:02:08,229 --> 00:02:10,531 This is much bigger than the previous pieces. 56 00:02:10,564 --> 00:02:12,866 - This is a bigger piece. 57 00:02:12,900 --> 00:02:15,769 Ah, that's a, a mark from being cut. 58 00:02:15,803 --> 00:02:16,570 - That's cut? 59 00:02:16,604 --> 00:02:17,605 - [Amy] That is cut. 60 00:02:17,638 --> 00:02:19,807 - So that's not disintegration or deterioration? 61 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,175 - [Amy] No. 62 00:02:21,909 --> 00:02:23,110 - Whoa. 63 00:02:23,143 --> 00:02:26,847 So if this is human, we've found what we were looking for. 64 00:02:28,516 --> 00:02:31,419 - We need to get this to the lab. 65 00:02:36,224 --> 00:02:38,526 These are bone fragments that we pulled out of the soil. 66 00:02:38,559 --> 00:02:40,294 We'd love your opinion as to whether or not 67 00:02:40,328 --> 00:02:44,565 these would be consistent with 10-year-old Howard Pitezel 68 00:02:44,598 --> 00:02:47,268 who was killed there over a hundred years ago. 69 00:02:47,301 --> 00:02:48,802 - Sure, I'd be happy to look at them. 70 00:02:48,836 --> 00:02:51,572 - [Narrator] Biological anthropologist Paige Selinsky 71 00:02:51,605 --> 00:02:53,641 is an expert in the identification 72 00:02:53,674 --> 00:02:56,444 of historical skeletal remains and is trained 73 00:02:56,477 --> 00:03:00,348 to analyze bone for any signs of unnatural trauma. 74 00:03:00,381 --> 00:03:02,283 - [Amaryllis] Looking at this magnified image, 75 00:03:02,316 --> 00:03:04,485 are you able to determine what part of the body 76 00:03:04,518 --> 00:03:05,886 these might have originated from? 77 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:06,887 - [Paige] Mm-hmm. 78 00:03:06,920 --> 00:03:08,556 Well, they're really, really small fragments, 79 00:03:08,589 --> 00:03:10,924 which makes them kind of difficult to say 80 00:03:10,958 --> 00:03:14,228 a whole lot about, but they appear most likely 81 00:03:14,262 --> 00:03:18,232 to be rib bone, based on their texture, size, and shape. 82 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,569 - That's really interesting for us to hear, 83 00:03:21,602 --> 00:03:24,538 because the ribcage is one of the largest parts 84 00:03:24,572 --> 00:03:26,474 of Howard Pitezel's body that was never recovered. 85 00:03:26,507 --> 00:03:27,675 - Exactly. 86 00:03:27,708 --> 00:03:29,710 - Are you able to determine whether or not 87 00:03:29,743 --> 00:03:32,246 this is human or animal bone? 88 00:03:33,747 --> 00:03:36,317 - From a fragment of this size, I would never venture to say 89 00:03:36,350 --> 00:03:40,454 what kind of animal it came from based on this alone. 90 00:03:41,655 --> 00:03:44,592 - [Amaryllis] We have some larger fragments. 91 00:03:44,625 --> 00:03:45,893 - [Paige] You know, these have been butchered. 92 00:03:45,926 --> 00:03:47,561 You can see tool markings. 93 00:03:47,595 --> 00:03:50,398 Perhaps it was chopped with a cleaver of some sort. 94 00:03:50,431 --> 00:03:52,700 We can do some microscopy to enhance those tool markings 95 00:03:52,733 --> 00:03:54,802 so you could see them more closely. 96 00:03:54,835 --> 00:03:56,537 - We know that the Ripper's murder weapon 97 00:03:56,570 --> 00:03:58,739 was most likely a surgical knife. 98 00:03:58,772 --> 00:04:01,342 We also have a press account that states that Holmes 99 00:04:01,375 --> 00:04:04,512 had a set of surgical knives with him in Irvington. 100 00:04:04,545 --> 00:04:07,047 So if these are the bones of Howard Pitezel 101 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,451 and the markings were made by the same type of weapon, 102 00:04:10,484 --> 00:04:13,454 we could be a lot closer to proving my theory. 103 00:04:13,487 --> 00:04:14,722 - So when you look at these images, 104 00:04:14,755 --> 00:04:18,426 what clues do you see as to the kind of tool that was used? 105 00:04:18,459 --> 00:04:20,628 - Probably some kind of a saw, 106 00:04:20,661 --> 00:04:22,830 but we don't have a lot of breakage on the edge. 107 00:04:22,863 --> 00:04:25,533 Here you can see a close-up of those tool marks 108 00:04:25,566 --> 00:04:26,967 from the saw blade. 109 00:04:30,037 --> 00:04:34,642 - If these were human remains, the fact that they were cut 110 00:04:34,675 --> 00:04:37,911 with a saw or an ax, as opposed to a surgeon's knife, 111 00:04:37,945 --> 00:04:40,881 would suggest that Holmes and Ripper 112 00:04:40,914 --> 00:04:43,517 were killing in different styles. 113 00:04:43,551 --> 00:04:45,553 Are you able to determine whether or not 114 00:04:45,586 --> 00:04:48,422 this is human or animal bone? 115 00:04:48,456 --> 00:04:49,957 - Yeah, well looking at these, especially 'cause 116 00:04:49,990 --> 00:04:51,625 they're slightly larger fragments, I can tell you 117 00:04:51,659 --> 00:04:54,495 for sure that these are animal remains, not human. 118 00:04:54,528 --> 00:04:55,729 - Are you sure? 119 00:04:55,763 --> 00:04:56,697 - [Paige] Yes, I am sure. 120 00:04:56,730 --> 00:04:57,665 - Positive? 121 00:04:57,698 --> 00:05:00,534 - Yes, they're definitely animal remains. 122 00:05:00,568 --> 00:05:02,536 - Oh, that's really disappointing to hear. 123 00:05:02,570 --> 00:05:04,938 You never hope to find the remains of a 10-year-old boy. 124 00:05:04,972 --> 00:05:07,508 But in this case, we were hoping that some of his remains 125 00:05:07,541 --> 00:05:10,611 could shed light on this unsolved case. 126 00:05:12,012 --> 00:05:14,882 (suspenseful music) 127 00:05:17,117 --> 00:05:19,720 - I really thought we had our hands on some evidence 128 00:05:19,753 --> 00:05:22,590 that might actually help us link Holmes to the Ripper. 129 00:05:22,623 --> 00:05:23,757 - Yeah. 130 00:05:23,791 --> 00:05:25,759 To have physical evidence from an actual Holmes victim 131 00:05:25,793 --> 00:05:27,728 would have been the biggest breakthrough we've had yet. 132 00:05:27,761 --> 00:05:29,697 I'd really like to come back with a big enough team 133 00:05:29,730 --> 00:05:31,999 that we could explore the entire property. 134 00:05:32,032 --> 00:05:34,968 Back in Holmes' day that property was enormous 135 00:05:35,002 --> 00:05:36,770 and those historical human remains dogs 136 00:05:36,804 --> 00:05:38,739 are generally really accurate. 137 00:05:38,772 --> 00:05:41,108 It may just be that we need to excavate further. 138 00:05:41,141 --> 00:05:42,476 - [Jeff] There's no doubt about that. 139 00:05:42,510 --> 00:05:43,911 And Paige wasn't able to identify 140 00:05:43,944 --> 00:05:46,447 whether those smaller fragments were human or not. 141 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,582 Those could've belonged to Howard 142 00:05:48,616 --> 00:05:50,584 - [Amaryllis] Agreed, and once we have the resources, 143 00:05:50,618 --> 00:05:52,420 we should come back for a larger scale dig. 144 00:05:52,453 --> 00:05:53,454 - Yeah. 145 00:05:53,487 --> 00:05:54,622 - There is one more thing I want to check out 146 00:05:54,655 --> 00:05:56,490 before we leave Irvington. 147 00:05:56,524 --> 00:05:58,492 You remember Steve told us that Holmes might have left 148 00:05:58,526 --> 00:06:00,728 some belongings behind when he left town? 149 00:06:00,761 --> 00:06:02,530 He gave me the owner's details. 150 00:06:02,563 --> 00:06:04,097 I think it's worth checking those out and seeing 151 00:06:04,131 --> 00:06:06,400 if they could provide any additional connections. 152 00:06:06,434 --> 00:06:08,101 - I'm game, let's go. 153 00:06:09,570 --> 00:06:11,605 - [Narrator] Irvington, Indian is one of the many cities 154 00:06:11,639 --> 00:06:15,843 Holmes visits while on the run, trying to cover his tracks. 155 00:06:15,876 --> 00:06:19,480 He arrives in October of 1894, rents the house 156 00:06:19,513 --> 00:06:21,982 where he murders young Howard Pitezel 157 00:06:22,015 --> 00:06:24,184 and leaves after just 10 days 158 00:06:24,217 --> 00:06:27,087 to stay one step ahead of the authorities. 159 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,957 (suspenseful music) 160 00:06:33,694 --> 00:06:35,529 - [Jeff] How old would these boxes have been? 161 00:06:35,563 --> 00:06:38,732 - [Al] One of them has a date on it of 1880. 162 00:06:38,766 --> 00:06:41,569 - [Narrator] Irvington tour guides Al and Rhonda Hunter 163 00:06:41,602 --> 00:06:44,738 are in possession of a mysterious box of artifacts 164 00:06:44,772 --> 00:06:48,742 given to them 13 years ago by a local couple. 165 00:06:48,776 --> 00:06:50,778 They believe the contents of the box 166 00:06:50,811 --> 00:06:53,681 may have belonged to Holmes and were left behind 167 00:06:53,714 --> 00:06:55,916 in his rush to flee town. 168 00:06:55,949 --> 00:06:59,487 - How do we know that this is connected with Holmes? 169 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,723 - All this stuff was loose in the boxes, 170 00:07:02,756 --> 00:07:05,993 and there were a couple things in here that I believe 171 00:07:06,026 --> 00:07:09,196 point to a connection with Holmes. 172 00:07:09,229 --> 00:07:12,032 Most importantly, if you look on the back, the fourth name 173 00:07:12,065 --> 00:07:15,102 down on the right at the top should be very familiar to you. 174 00:07:15,135 --> 00:07:17,771 - Herman Webster Mudgett. 175 00:07:17,805 --> 00:07:21,775 This is Holmes's commencement pamphlet 176 00:07:21,809 --> 00:07:24,778 from his graduation at the University of Michigan. 177 00:07:24,812 --> 00:07:26,547 - [Al] It came in this envelope. 178 00:07:26,580 --> 00:07:27,515 I have no idea who wrote that name. 179 00:07:27,548 --> 00:07:28,616 - Interesting. 180 00:07:29,950 --> 00:07:33,721 The commencement program links this collection 181 00:07:33,754 --> 00:07:37,625 with the graduating class of Holmes's medical school, 182 00:07:37,658 --> 00:07:39,527 which definitely narrows things down. 183 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:43,030 This obviously having Holmes's name, H.W. Mudgett, 184 00:07:43,063 --> 00:07:44,798 handwritten at the top, 185 00:07:44,832 --> 00:07:47,167 would seem to narrow it down even more. 186 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,002 It's really eerie to be face to face 187 00:07:49,036 --> 00:07:51,505 with artifacts that could have belonged to Holmes himself. 188 00:07:51,539 --> 00:07:53,273 And if they're genuine, they could be 189 00:07:53,306 --> 00:07:55,943 critical pieces of evidence for our investigation. 190 00:07:55,976 --> 00:07:58,245 But this could also be the stash of a Holmes collector. 191 00:07:58,278 --> 00:08:00,681 So I'm not drawing any conclusions yet. 192 00:08:00,714 --> 00:08:04,217 - There is one account on August 28th, 1895 193 00:08:04,251 --> 00:08:07,621 that talks about his penchant for photos 194 00:08:07,655 --> 00:08:11,291 and photo collecting while he was here in Irvington. 195 00:08:11,324 --> 00:08:15,663 The man also rented a lock box at the Post Office 196 00:08:15,696 --> 00:08:18,766 and received a great amount of mail, the greater portion 197 00:08:18,799 --> 00:08:21,969 of it being photographs and tintype pictures. 198 00:08:22,002 --> 00:08:23,771 - That's fascinating. 199 00:08:23,804 --> 00:08:26,540 - This entire box is nothing but photos. 200 00:08:26,574 --> 00:08:31,645 There's only a few in here that had been identified. 201 00:08:31,679 --> 00:08:35,215 The one that I like and probably you would recognize... 202 00:08:36,917 --> 00:08:38,218 - You know what, without even looking at the back, 203 00:08:38,251 --> 00:08:40,287 I recognize this man. 204 00:08:41,689 --> 00:08:44,124 This is Quinlan, that's Holmes's assistant 205 00:08:44,157 --> 00:08:45,659 at the murder castle. 206 00:08:45,693 --> 00:08:47,661 This is the best photograph, 207 00:08:47,695 --> 00:08:49,697 highest quality of him I've ever seen. 208 00:08:49,730 --> 00:08:53,266 I've seen artist depictions and sure enough, Pat Quinlan. 209 00:08:55,068 --> 00:08:56,970 That was the man down in the basement 210 00:08:57,004 --> 00:08:59,907 assisting Holmes committing murder. 211 00:08:59,940 --> 00:09:01,141 Holmes had at least two accomplices 212 00:09:01,174 --> 00:09:02,242 at the Murder Castle. 213 00:09:02,275 --> 00:09:04,578 The first was Ben Pitezel, 214 00:09:04,612 --> 00:09:07,147 his partner in scams and eventual victim. 215 00:09:07,180 --> 00:09:11,284 The other was Pat Quinlan who worked as a sort of caretaker. 216 00:09:11,318 --> 00:09:13,721 It's believed that when Holmes tried to burn down 217 00:09:13,754 --> 00:09:17,324 the murder castle in 1893 to collect the insurance money, 218 00:09:17,357 --> 00:09:19,760 it was Quinlan that started the fire. 219 00:09:19,793 --> 00:09:22,062 - There are other things in here 220 00:09:22,095 --> 00:09:24,131 that I have no explanation for, 221 00:09:24,164 --> 00:09:26,133 would love to get an explanation for. 222 00:09:26,166 --> 00:09:28,669 They're very frightening looking. 223 00:09:28,702 --> 00:09:29,803 - [Amaryllis] Were these framed when they came? 224 00:09:29,837 --> 00:09:31,939 - [Al] No, I put them in there just to segregate them. 225 00:09:31,972 --> 00:09:33,006 I mean, they're scalpels. 226 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:34,708 They'll still cut. 227 00:09:34,742 --> 00:09:35,709 - [Amaryllis] Huh. 228 00:09:35,743 --> 00:09:37,611 - Well, and it obviously shows a lot of use. 229 00:09:37,645 --> 00:09:40,648 The blade has been nicked, it appears, 230 00:09:40,681 --> 00:09:43,350 from maybe bone or something hard. 231 00:09:43,383 --> 00:09:45,318 Well, Al, you just caught my eye. 232 00:09:45,352 --> 00:09:47,755 This was made in Sheffield, England. 233 00:09:47,788 --> 00:09:52,793 - [Amaryllis] Wait, England? 234 00:09:52,826 --> 00:09:55,028 - I think what we need to look into further 235 00:09:55,062 --> 00:09:57,765 is just how standard issue these are. 236 00:09:57,798 --> 00:09:59,867 Is this something that every doctor 237 00:09:59,900 --> 00:10:01,969 on both sides of the Atlantic would carry? 238 00:10:02,002 --> 00:10:04,972 Or is this something that really could serve as a tie 239 00:10:05,005 --> 00:10:08,976 between the Ripper murders in London and Holmes's killings? 240 00:10:11,779 --> 00:10:14,648 (suspenseful music) 241 00:10:21,989 --> 00:10:23,857 - This was the pathological department 242 00:10:23,891 --> 00:10:27,260 of Central State Hospital which opened in 1848 243 00:10:27,294 --> 00:10:30,664 as the Indiana Hospital for the Insane. 244 00:10:30,698 --> 00:10:31,765 - [Narrator] Executive director 245 00:10:31,799 --> 00:10:34,935 of the Indiana Medical History Museum, Sarah Halter, 246 00:10:34,968 --> 00:10:37,805 specializes in early medical history. 247 00:10:37,838 --> 00:10:41,008 - It was the first state mental hospital in Indiana. 248 00:10:41,041 --> 00:10:43,310 - [Narrator] Jeff and Amaryllis are here to investigate 249 00:10:43,343 --> 00:10:46,146 whether the origins of the newly discovered artifacts 250 00:10:46,179 --> 00:10:50,150 might reveal a link between Holmes and Jack the Ripper. 251 00:10:50,183 --> 00:10:52,686 - Sarah, tell me what this instrument would be used for. 252 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,855 - It's probably a lancet. 253 00:10:54,888 --> 00:10:57,024 Lancets were used for bloodletting. 254 00:10:57,057 --> 00:10:59,226 They were used to make incisions like scalpels were 255 00:10:59,259 --> 00:11:00,828 but not for surgeries. 256 00:11:04,898 --> 00:11:07,000 - So we see here the words Sheffield, England 257 00:11:07,034 --> 00:11:10,370 on this lancet, and so we were curious as to whether 258 00:11:10,403 --> 00:11:12,906 British-made medical instruments were commonly sold 259 00:11:12,940 --> 00:11:15,876 in the United States, or whether this might be interpreted 260 00:11:15,909 --> 00:11:17,144 as some kind of circumstantial evidence 261 00:11:17,177 --> 00:11:21,715 that Holmes might have traveled to England during the time. 262 00:11:21,749 --> 00:11:24,017 - Well, some may have been sold in the United States, 263 00:11:24,051 --> 00:11:27,154 but there were plenty of instrument makers here in the US 264 00:11:27,187 --> 00:11:28,922 who could supply the doctors here. 265 00:11:28,956 --> 00:11:31,458 So most medical instruments that were purchased here 266 00:11:31,491 --> 00:11:33,426 would have been made here. 267 00:11:34,928 --> 00:11:36,930 - [Narrator] Steel manufacturing is booming 268 00:11:36,964 --> 00:11:40,367 in post Civil War America as the expansion of the railroads 269 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,036 increases demand for the metal and the invention 270 00:11:43,070 --> 00:11:46,840 of the Bessemer process makes it cheaper to produce. 271 00:11:46,874 --> 00:11:48,809 American-made surgical tools 272 00:11:48,842 --> 00:11:51,344 begin to hit the market in the 1830s. 273 00:11:51,378 --> 00:11:56,016 By 1890, foreign imports are increasingly rare. 274 00:11:56,049 --> 00:11:58,819 - So this could indicate that Holmes had purchased 275 00:11:58,852 --> 00:12:01,421 this instrument in the UK if it did in fact belong to him. 276 00:12:01,454 --> 00:12:02,489 - It could. 277 00:12:02,522 --> 00:12:03,556 - Wow. 278 00:12:03,590 --> 00:12:05,926 - If this box of artifacts did belong to Holmes, 279 00:12:05,959 --> 00:12:08,195 then the fact that these medical tools were made 280 00:12:08,228 --> 00:12:11,064 and probably purchased in England is a big deal. 281 00:12:11,098 --> 00:12:12,833 It could be circumstantial evidence that Holmes 282 00:12:12,866 --> 00:12:14,802 purchased them there and brought them back with him 283 00:12:14,835 --> 00:12:17,370 when he returned to the United States. 284 00:12:17,404 --> 00:12:19,439 Jeff, I think we've done all we can do here in Indiana. 285 00:12:19,472 --> 00:12:20,774 - Absolutely. 286 00:12:20,808 --> 00:12:21,775 - [Amaryllis] I'd like to learn 287 00:12:21,809 --> 00:12:23,010 how Holmes was finally caught. 288 00:12:23,043 --> 00:12:25,946 (suspenseful music) 289 00:12:29,049 --> 00:12:32,019 - Holmes was, in his way, a very remarkable individual. 290 00:12:32,052 --> 00:12:35,789 If he hadn't been so psychologically warped, 291 00:12:35,823 --> 00:12:38,792 he could have been a great success in business. 292 00:12:38,826 --> 00:12:39,993 - [Narrator] To uncover the details 293 00:12:40,027 --> 00:12:43,363 of Holmes's final months on the run, Jeff and Amaryllis 294 00:12:43,396 --> 00:12:45,966 meet with Harold Schechter, a Holmes author 295 00:12:45,999 --> 00:12:49,169 and researcher specializing in serial killers. 296 00:12:49,202 --> 00:12:50,938 - How did he finally get tripped up? 297 00:12:50,971 --> 00:12:53,173 - Well, Holmes's downfall really begins 298 00:12:53,206 --> 00:12:55,275 even before he murders the children, 299 00:12:55,308 --> 00:12:58,578 and actually even before he murders Benjamin Pitezel. 300 00:12:58,611 --> 00:13:02,549 - [Narrator] By October of 1894, Holmes secretly eliminates 301 00:13:02,582 --> 00:13:06,419 four of the seven members of the Pitezel family. 302 00:13:06,453 --> 00:13:08,555 But as Holmes plots the murder of Pitezel's wife 303 00:13:08,588 --> 00:13:12,192 and two remaining children, it's already too late 304 00:13:12,225 --> 00:13:16,296 because of a fatal mistake he makes three months earlier. 305 00:13:16,329 --> 00:13:20,067 - He had been on his wedding tour with Georgiana. 306 00:13:20,100 --> 00:13:21,334 - [Jeff] His third wife. 307 00:13:21,368 --> 00:13:23,136 - And they were in St. Louis, 308 00:13:23,170 --> 00:13:25,272 and Holmes couldn't resist pulling off 309 00:13:25,305 --> 00:13:28,475 some petty scam and ended up in jail. 310 00:13:28,508 --> 00:13:30,878 And it turned out his cellmate 311 00:13:30,911 --> 00:13:34,414 was a very notorious bank robber named Marion Hedgepeth. 312 00:13:36,483 --> 00:13:38,618 - [Narrator] Holmes spends just 10 days in jail 313 00:13:38,651 --> 00:13:40,988 before Georgiana posts bail. 314 00:13:41,021 --> 00:13:43,957 But in that short time with Hedgepeth, he confides his plan 315 00:13:43,991 --> 00:13:46,960 to partner with Ben Pitezel in an insurance scam. 316 00:13:46,994 --> 00:13:50,964 Holmes reveals his secret because he's looking for help. 317 00:13:50,998 --> 00:13:53,500 He agrees to cut Hedgepeth in on the profits from the scam 318 00:13:53,533 --> 00:13:56,603 in exchange for an introduction to a corrupt lawyer 319 00:13:56,636 --> 00:14:00,107 whom Holmes needs to carry out the plot. 320 00:14:00,140 --> 00:14:03,476 But Holmes never pays the $500 he promises. 321 00:14:03,510 --> 00:14:05,412 And when Hedgepeth reads about the discovery 322 00:14:05,445 --> 00:14:07,414 of Pitezel's body in the papers, 323 00:14:07,447 --> 00:14:11,018 he gets revenge by tipping off the insurance company. 324 00:14:11,051 --> 00:14:13,086 The manhunt for Holmes begins 325 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,623 just as he's racing to cover his tracks. 326 00:14:16,656 --> 00:14:18,425 - So walk us through the chronology here. 327 00:14:18,458 --> 00:14:20,593 Holmes has picked up the insurance money. 328 00:14:20,627 --> 00:14:22,662 He's got the Pitezel children. 329 00:14:22,695 --> 00:14:25,198 He leaves Philadelphia, what happens next? 330 00:14:25,232 --> 00:14:28,936 - Holmes begins this very torturous odyssey. 331 00:14:28,969 --> 00:14:32,940 He takes the children from one place to another, 332 00:14:32,973 --> 00:14:35,575 and he's actually planning on killing them 333 00:14:35,608 --> 00:14:37,177 in different places. 334 00:14:40,113 --> 00:14:42,449 The insurance company wasn't equipped to launch 335 00:14:42,482 --> 00:14:44,584 this full-out manhunt for Holmes. 336 00:14:44,617 --> 00:14:48,055 For that, they turned to the Pinkertons. 337 00:14:48,088 --> 00:14:49,122 - [Narrator] In the 1890s, 338 00:14:49,156 --> 00:14:51,491 the Pinkerton Detective Agency is the country's 339 00:14:51,524 --> 00:14:54,261 largest private law enforcement organization. 340 00:14:54,294 --> 00:14:56,263 Known for its nationwide security 341 00:14:56,296 --> 00:14:59,532 and communications network, the Pinkertons are so effective 342 00:14:59,566 --> 00:15:02,035 at hunting criminals that they're hired to provide 343 00:15:02,069 --> 00:15:05,705 President Lincoln's private security during the Civil War. 344 00:15:05,738 --> 00:15:09,709 And the term private eye is coined as slang for their logo, 345 00:15:09,742 --> 00:15:12,012 the all-seeing eye. 346 00:15:12,045 --> 00:15:15,482 - So the Pinkertons are put on Holmes's trail. 347 00:15:17,317 --> 00:15:19,319 From Indiana, he goes to Detroit, 348 00:15:19,352 --> 00:15:23,023 and then he takes the two remaining girls to Toronto 349 00:15:23,056 --> 00:15:27,027 and in Toronto, he murders the two girls, Alice and Nellie. 350 00:15:29,462 --> 00:15:31,999 The Pinkertons finally do pick up his trail. 351 00:15:32,032 --> 00:15:35,602 The Pinkertons did some kind of canvassing 352 00:15:35,635 --> 00:15:39,672 of the steamship offices and confirmed that Holmes has plans 353 00:15:39,706 --> 00:15:42,642 to take Georgiana, his wife, to Boston, 354 00:15:42,675 --> 00:15:44,344 and get on a steamer to London. 355 00:15:44,377 --> 00:15:45,545 - [Jeff] London? 356 00:15:48,081 --> 00:15:50,417 - We've seen steamship records of a man called Holmes 357 00:15:50,450 --> 00:15:52,252 traveling from London during the time 358 00:15:52,285 --> 00:15:54,387 of the Jack the Ripper killings. 359 00:15:54,421 --> 00:15:57,024 To go back is definitely noteworthy. 360 00:15:57,057 --> 00:15:57,924 - Yeah. 361 00:15:57,957 --> 00:16:00,593 - It was a place he was familiar with. 362 00:16:00,627 --> 00:16:02,996 Holmes was an expert of assuming new identities 363 00:16:03,030 --> 00:16:04,597 and disappearing into any city. 364 00:16:04,631 --> 00:16:07,167 And I'm not surprised he decided on London. 365 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,269 He had gotten away with murder there before, 366 00:16:09,302 --> 00:16:11,571 and he knew he could get away with it again. 367 00:16:11,604 --> 00:16:13,473 - So what happens when he arrives in Boston? 368 00:16:13,506 --> 00:16:15,708 - [Harold] As soon as Holmes set foot in Boston, 369 00:16:15,742 --> 00:16:19,512 the Pinkertons are waiting and they nabbed him, 370 00:16:19,546 --> 00:16:21,648 and he is taken to Philadelphia. 371 00:16:21,681 --> 00:16:23,116 - [Jeff] To be tried for insurance fraud. 372 00:16:23,150 --> 00:16:24,317 - Yes. 373 00:16:24,351 --> 00:16:27,020 Meanwhile police in Chicago have entered into the castle 374 00:16:27,054 --> 00:16:31,358 and discovered evidence of mass slaughter. 375 00:16:31,391 --> 00:16:34,794 This reinforces that Holmes is a much, much more 376 00:16:34,827 --> 00:16:38,598 dangerous character than anybody had previously suspected. 377 00:16:40,067 --> 00:16:43,336 They find the incinerated remains of Howard 378 00:16:45,705 --> 00:16:50,077 in this large stove and ultimately, the two bodies 379 00:16:50,110 --> 00:16:51,778 of the girls in Toronto. 380 00:16:53,746 --> 00:16:56,083 And of course, at that point, Holmes is identified 381 00:16:56,116 --> 00:16:59,219 as the most monstrous killer of the day. 382 00:17:03,223 --> 00:17:06,693 (suspenseful music) 383 00:17:06,726 --> 00:17:09,329 - This is where H.H. Holmes was tried for murder. 384 00:17:09,362 --> 00:17:11,731 - Wow, this is the place 385 00:17:11,764 --> 00:17:14,434 the murder trial of the century happened. 386 00:17:14,467 --> 00:17:16,569 - [Narrator] H.H. Holmes is ultimately put on trial 387 00:17:16,603 --> 00:17:20,673 for a single crime, the murder of Benjamin Pitezel. 388 00:17:20,707 --> 00:17:23,443 Jeff and Amaryllis meet with historian Thomas Rowan 389 00:17:23,476 --> 00:17:25,278 in the Philadelphia courtroom 390 00:17:25,312 --> 00:17:29,116 where the trial begins in October of 1895. 391 00:17:29,149 --> 00:17:32,285 - This was the O.J. Simpson trial of its time. 392 00:17:32,319 --> 00:17:33,620 It was a media circus. 393 00:17:33,653 --> 00:17:35,788 Newspapers from across the country were here. 394 00:17:35,822 --> 00:17:39,726 They were all in attendance for the Holmes trial. 395 00:17:39,759 --> 00:17:41,661 - Fill in for us how he landed here 396 00:17:41,694 --> 00:17:44,864 with the nation's media watching him be tried for murder. 397 00:17:44,897 --> 00:17:47,200 - [Thomas] When he comes in the courtroom to face the judge, 398 00:17:47,234 --> 00:17:49,536 he is in his full suit. 399 00:17:49,569 --> 00:17:52,439 He is wearing a gold watch, gold jewelry. 400 00:17:52,472 --> 00:17:53,340 - Dressed to impress. 401 00:17:53,373 --> 00:17:54,774 - Look at the posture. 402 00:17:54,807 --> 00:17:56,509 - He seems as though he's on vacation 403 00:17:56,543 --> 00:17:58,345 and not on trial for his life. 404 00:17:58,378 --> 00:18:00,680 He was trying to shape his image 405 00:18:00,713 --> 00:18:03,150 in the public and in the prosecution, 406 00:18:03,183 --> 00:18:05,452 that he could not have been a killer. 407 00:18:05,485 --> 00:18:07,320 He was a nice guy. 408 00:18:07,354 --> 00:18:09,222 - So what happened? 409 00:18:09,256 --> 00:18:10,823 - Then it starts to turn. 410 00:18:10,857 --> 00:18:13,293 - [Narrator] The prosecutors bring several key witnesses 411 00:18:13,326 --> 00:18:17,397 to testify against Holmes, including Mrs. Pitezel 412 00:18:17,430 --> 00:18:19,432 who breaks down in tears as she explains 413 00:18:19,466 --> 00:18:23,736 how he convinced her to leave her children in his care. 414 00:18:23,770 --> 00:18:26,273 - His defense starts to wane. 415 00:18:26,306 --> 00:18:28,708 He starts to lose control of the trial. 416 00:18:28,741 --> 00:18:32,445 In some of the headlines, he starts to grow pale. 417 00:18:32,479 --> 00:18:34,847 You can physically see the end coming. 418 00:18:34,881 --> 00:18:36,483 - [Narrator] The most damning testimony 419 00:18:36,516 --> 00:18:38,751 comes from Holmes's wife, Georgiana Yoke 420 00:18:38,785 --> 00:18:42,789 who has just learned Holmes's has two other wives. 421 00:18:42,822 --> 00:18:45,758 She testifies that on the night of Pitezel's murder, 422 00:18:45,792 --> 00:18:49,729 Holmes demands that they immediately leave Philadelphia. 423 00:18:49,762 --> 00:18:51,364 - And in the end, that's what nails him? 424 00:18:51,398 --> 00:18:52,265 - Yes. 425 00:18:52,299 --> 00:18:55,402 So after a week, he's sentenced to die. 426 00:18:56,669 --> 00:18:59,806 And until the end, he has worked the press, 427 00:18:59,839 --> 00:19:01,674 and he has manipulated the newspapers. 428 00:19:01,708 --> 00:19:04,311 He can't stop playing that game. 429 00:19:04,344 --> 00:19:07,680 After the trial, he was able to sell his confession 430 00:19:07,714 --> 00:19:12,252 to Hearst newspapers for $7,500 which in today's money is-- 431 00:19:12,285 --> 00:19:15,388 - What, like almost a quarter of a million dollars? 432 00:19:15,422 --> 00:19:16,289 - Yes. 433 00:19:16,323 --> 00:19:18,791 So he copped to 27 murders, 434 00:19:18,825 --> 00:19:22,462 but in hindsight, several of the murders he claims, 435 00:19:22,495 --> 00:19:23,763 the people were still alive. 436 00:19:23,796 --> 00:19:24,597 - [Jeff] Right, you couldn't believe 437 00:19:24,631 --> 00:19:26,599 a word out of his mouth. 438 00:19:26,633 --> 00:19:29,202 - Following Holmes' execution, 439 00:19:29,236 --> 00:19:31,604 you would think that was the end of the media circus. 440 00:19:31,638 --> 00:19:34,541 But have you ever heard of the Holmes' Curse? 441 00:19:34,574 --> 00:19:35,642 - [Amaryllis] No. 442 00:19:35,675 --> 00:19:40,413 - So following his death, some strange occurrences 443 00:19:40,447 --> 00:19:44,217 were attributed to Holmes's supernatural ability 444 00:19:44,251 --> 00:19:48,555 to reach beyond the grave and cause some chaos. 445 00:19:48,588 --> 00:19:49,856 - [Jeff] I've researched this. 446 00:19:49,889 --> 00:19:51,624 A lot of people involved with the case 447 00:19:51,658 --> 00:19:54,627 mysteriously died after the execution. 448 00:19:54,661 --> 00:19:55,795 - Do you believe that? 449 00:19:55,828 --> 00:19:56,996 - That's a difficult question 450 00:19:57,029 --> 00:19:58,565 but I collected a whole bunch of articles 451 00:19:58,598 --> 00:20:00,800 that I think you might find interesting. 452 00:20:00,833 --> 00:20:02,335 - [Jeff] Thank you, Thomas. 453 00:20:02,369 --> 00:20:03,370 - Of course. 454 00:20:04,871 --> 00:20:08,408 (suspenseful music) 455 00:20:08,441 --> 00:20:10,477 - [Amaryllis] I mean, that man could sell newspapers. 456 00:20:10,510 --> 00:20:14,514 - Holmes relished media attention, much like the Ripper. 457 00:20:14,547 --> 00:20:16,583 - It's an incredibly striking similarity 458 00:20:16,616 --> 00:20:18,017 between these two killers. 459 00:20:18,050 --> 00:20:19,652 Jack the Ripper gives himself a name. 460 00:20:19,686 --> 00:20:22,589 It sticks in the press, creates all of the mythology 461 00:20:22,622 --> 00:20:24,524 that has grown up around him. 462 00:20:24,557 --> 00:20:25,558 - [Jeff] Well, and just look at Holmes, 463 00:20:25,592 --> 00:20:27,594 his very own confessions. 464 00:20:27,627 --> 00:20:30,797 - And it's really striking how they relished the spotlight 465 00:20:30,830 --> 00:20:32,799 and how masterful they were at creating 466 00:20:32,832 --> 00:20:34,601 their own narrative in the press. 467 00:20:34,634 --> 00:20:36,303 That's why I find the stuff that Thomas gave us 468 00:20:36,336 --> 00:20:38,738 about the Holmes curse so interesting. 469 00:20:38,771 --> 00:20:40,707 The story of Holmes coming back from the grave 470 00:20:40,740 --> 00:20:43,376 and exacting retribution on the people 471 00:20:43,410 --> 00:20:44,611 who had convicted him. 472 00:20:44,644 --> 00:20:45,978 - But when you go through the list of people 473 00:20:46,012 --> 00:20:48,348 that were involved in the Holmes trial, 474 00:20:48,381 --> 00:20:49,716 we have the prison superintendent 475 00:20:49,749 --> 00:20:51,618 who supposedly shot himself. 476 00:20:51,651 --> 00:20:54,487 We have the judge dying of a mysterious illness. 477 00:20:54,521 --> 00:20:56,556 A juror is electrocuted. 478 00:20:56,589 --> 00:20:58,725 A witness dies in a freak accident. 479 00:20:58,758 --> 00:21:01,027 And they find the priest who gave Holmes's last rites 480 00:21:01,060 --> 00:21:02,495 dead in a basement. 481 00:21:04,030 --> 00:21:06,966 People involved in his arrest, his trial, his execution, 482 00:21:06,999 --> 00:21:09,736 his burial, and all of a sudden, they're either dead 483 00:21:09,769 --> 00:21:11,938 or suffering terrible misfortune. 484 00:21:11,971 --> 00:21:16,643 It's a list of coincidences that is simply amazing. 485 00:21:16,676 --> 00:21:19,746 In fact, I think it's too amazing to be a coincidence, 486 00:21:19,779 --> 00:21:21,714 and our work over the past six months 487 00:21:21,748 --> 00:21:23,650 has only strengthened my conviction. 488 00:21:23,683 --> 00:21:27,687 I think the Holmes curse is compelling evidence 489 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,658 that Holmes escaped his death and execution on that May day. 490 00:21:32,859 --> 00:21:35,862 - Wait, what? 491 00:21:35,895 --> 00:21:37,630 - [Narrator] At the age of 34, 492 00:21:37,664 --> 00:21:40,833 master swindler H.H. Holmes is convicted 493 00:21:40,867 --> 00:21:44,771 for the murder of Benjamin Pitezel and sentenced to hang. 494 00:21:44,804 --> 00:21:47,340 He is executed on May 7, 1896. 495 00:21:49,642 --> 00:21:51,778 But in the months following his death, 496 00:21:51,811 --> 00:21:54,381 numerous people associated with the trial 497 00:21:54,414 --> 00:21:58,451 die or disappear under mysterious circumstances. 498 00:21:58,485 --> 00:22:00,720 The press dubs it the Holmes curse. 499 00:22:00,753 --> 00:22:03,089 - You're telling me that he faked his own death 500 00:22:03,122 --> 00:22:05,658 in front of the media and law enforcement 501 00:22:05,692 --> 00:22:06,859 of Moyamensing Prison that day? 502 00:22:06,893 --> 00:22:07,927 - Okay, but give me this. 503 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,862 Was he not the master manipulator? 504 00:22:09,896 --> 00:22:10,730 - Sure. 505 00:22:10,763 --> 00:22:12,732 - Could he not con anyone around him? 506 00:22:12,765 --> 00:22:13,966 - Yeah. 507 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,637 - So it's possible Holmes faked his own death. 508 00:22:20,907 --> 00:22:24,010 - I mean I grant you this is a whole lot of misfortune. 509 00:22:24,043 --> 00:22:27,113 But other than a few newspaper articles that suggest 510 00:22:27,146 --> 00:22:31,584 people involved with his trial died of unnatural causes, 511 00:22:31,618 --> 00:22:33,620 what other evidence do you have 512 00:22:33,653 --> 00:22:35,622 that Holmes could have faked his own death? 513 00:22:35,655 --> 00:22:38,825 - If Holmes was the Ripper, as I believe, 514 00:22:38,858 --> 00:22:43,530 and Ripper killings continued after his execution, 515 00:22:43,563 --> 00:22:46,866 we can go a long way to establishing Holmes escaped. 516 00:22:46,899 --> 00:22:49,068 And in my research I've found some reports 517 00:22:49,101 --> 00:22:53,873 of Ripper style killings after 1896 that sound a lot 518 00:22:53,906 --> 00:22:57,444 like what we've been uncovering in our investigation. 519 00:22:57,477 --> 00:22:59,646 I've known about the theory that Holmes escaped his death 520 00:22:59,679 --> 00:23:01,748 for a long time, but I never believed in it 521 00:23:01,781 --> 00:23:04,851 as much as I do now, now that we've uncovered 522 00:23:04,884 --> 00:23:07,954 what a master con artist Holmes really was. 523 00:23:07,987 --> 00:23:09,622 - I mean, the media reports at the time 524 00:23:09,656 --> 00:23:11,791 have been pretty helpful so far. 525 00:23:11,824 --> 00:23:15,628 I'm highly skeptical here, but let's see what you've got. 526 00:23:15,662 --> 00:23:18,698 The idea that Holmes could have bribed or coerced his way 527 00:23:18,731 --> 00:23:20,800 out of his own out of his own execution just at the moment 528 00:23:20,833 --> 00:23:23,803 where all eyes were on him seems pretty far fetched. 529 00:23:23,836 --> 00:23:24,904 But as an investigator, 530 00:23:24,937 --> 00:23:28,575 I don't want to disregard a lead, however tenuous. 531 00:23:28,608 --> 00:23:32,845 So often, it's the unexpected details that solve a case. 532 00:23:32,879 --> 00:23:36,583 Okay, so here's one, a woman is mutilated. 533 00:23:36,616 --> 00:23:37,850 This is from 1906, 534 00:23:39,752 --> 00:23:42,221 body horribly slashed and dismembered, 535 00:23:42,254 --> 00:23:46,058 Jack the Ripper method used at 6 Second Street, New York. 536 00:23:46,092 --> 00:23:47,694 Well, we know that there have been 537 00:23:47,727 --> 00:23:49,996 Ripper-style killings there associated 538 00:23:50,029 --> 00:23:52,932 with Holmes's travel in the past. 539 00:23:52,965 --> 00:23:55,668 Okay, so here's another one from 1908. 540 00:23:55,702 --> 00:23:56,836 - Yeah. 541 00:23:56,869 --> 00:23:59,806 - A Jack the Ripper murder in Chicago. 542 00:23:59,839 --> 00:24:01,841 Woman murdered in London. 543 00:24:01,874 --> 00:24:03,610 This is 1902. 544 00:24:03,643 --> 00:24:05,211 Evidence of crime recalling Jack the Ripper 545 00:24:05,244 --> 00:24:08,681 found in poor quarter of Lambeth. 546 00:24:08,715 --> 00:24:10,249 Canadian Jack the Ripper. 547 00:24:10,282 --> 00:24:12,218 This was in 1900. 548 00:24:12,251 --> 00:24:14,921 One woman killed and two others attacked in Toronto. 549 00:24:14,954 --> 00:24:16,956 Well, Holmes has a connection in Toronto. 550 00:24:16,989 --> 00:24:19,559 It's pretty striking that each of these 551 00:24:19,592 --> 00:24:22,895 are Jack the Ripper style murders after Holmes' execution 552 00:24:22,929 --> 00:24:26,666 in cities that Holmes has a link to. 553 00:24:26,699 --> 00:24:28,801 But to me this isn't enough evidence. 554 00:24:28,835 --> 00:24:31,270 I'm gonna need more to take from this 555 00:24:31,303 --> 00:24:32,739 that Holmes faked his own death 556 00:24:32,772 --> 00:24:34,707 and walked around killing all of these people 557 00:24:34,741 --> 00:24:37,844 after the world thought he'd been executed. 558 00:24:37,877 --> 00:24:38,845 - [Jeff] What about the Batty Street Lodger? 559 00:24:38,878 --> 00:24:42,882 There's a detail in that eye witness report. 560 00:24:42,915 --> 00:24:45,818 - You're talking about the Batty Street landlady 561 00:24:45,852 --> 00:24:48,287 who saw an American doctor return 562 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,724 to the lodging house with bloody cuffs 563 00:24:51,758 --> 00:24:54,794 and then saw that same American doctor again, 564 00:24:54,827 --> 00:24:56,563 25 years later. 565 00:24:56,596 --> 00:24:59,799 - Right, if Holmes wasn't executed in 1896, 566 00:24:59,832 --> 00:25:02,869 then that detail suddenly makes a lot more sense. 567 00:25:02,902 --> 00:25:04,637 - I'm not completely convinced 568 00:25:04,671 --> 00:25:06,238 about this line of investigation. 569 00:25:06,272 --> 00:25:08,140 25 years is a long time, 570 00:25:08,174 --> 00:25:10,109 and I'm not sure that the eye witness's recognition 571 00:25:10,142 --> 00:25:12,111 would be 100% at that point. 572 00:25:12,144 --> 00:25:15,782 But what does intrigue me is if Jeff's theory is correct 573 00:25:15,815 --> 00:25:18,618 and Holmes is the Ripper, and he escaped his own death, 574 00:25:18,651 --> 00:25:21,854 chances are he continued killing after 1896, 575 00:25:21,888 --> 00:25:24,223 which means potentially more opportunities 576 00:25:24,256 --> 00:25:26,759 to find physical evidence to link the two men. 577 00:25:26,793 --> 00:25:28,027 So while I think this is a long shot, 578 00:25:28,060 --> 00:25:30,029 I'm gonna remain open minded. 579 00:25:30,062 --> 00:25:33,099 Here we are looking at the Holmes curse. 580 00:25:33,132 --> 00:25:37,003 It really does seem like it merits further investigation. 581 00:25:37,036 --> 00:25:39,706 I'd really like to understand what the security protocols 582 00:25:39,739 --> 00:25:42,709 at the prison even were 125 years ago, 583 00:25:42,742 --> 00:25:45,111 whether there was maybe holes in the security 584 00:25:45,144 --> 00:25:46,713 that were easy for somebody 585 00:25:46,746 --> 00:25:49,849 as intelligent and charming as Holmes to exploit. 586 00:25:49,882 --> 00:25:51,951 - Well, there's one thing that's for sure. 587 00:25:51,984 --> 00:25:53,886 He was a master manipulator. 588 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,857 And if anyone could have done it, it was H.H. Holmes. 589 00:26:00,292 --> 00:26:04,296 - H.H. Holmes got condemned to death in November of 1895. 590 00:26:04,330 --> 00:26:07,600 Capital punishment was fairly rare. 591 00:26:07,634 --> 00:26:09,769 - [Narrator] Philadelphia's Moyamensing Prison, 592 00:26:09,802 --> 00:26:11,704 where H.H. Holmes is incarcerated 593 00:26:11,738 --> 00:26:13,673 and allegedly executed, 594 00:26:13,706 --> 00:26:15,708 stands for more than 100 years 595 00:26:15,742 --> 00:26:17,910 before its demolition in 1968. 596 00:26:19,145 --> 00:26:20,680 To investigate what it would take 597 00:26:20,713 --> 00:26:22,815 to escape a 19th century prison, 598 00:26:22,849 --> 00:26:25,284 Jeff and Amaryllis visit the historic Eastern State 599 00:26:25,317 --> 00:26:29,722 Penitentiary, a prison of similar design to Moyamensing. 600 00:26:29,756 --> 00:26:31,824 - How many people from say 601 00:26:31,858 --> 00:26:34,761 when Holmes got up in the morning of his execution 602 00:26:34,794 --> 00:26:38,130 would come in contact with his body? 603 00:26:38,164 --> 00:26:39,231 - So there would have been the person 604 00:26:39,265 --> 00:26:41,701 who brought him his breakfast. 605 00:26:41,734 --> 00:26:44,771 He met with his priest before he was executed. 606 00:26:44,804 --> 00:26:46,873 We know that there were newspaper men, 607 00:26:46,906 --> 00:26:49,141 the guards taking him out of his cell. 608 00:26:49,175 --> 00:26:52,078 There were other prison officials. 609 00:26:52,111 --> 00:26:54,714 So dozens of people would have 610 00:26:54,747 --> 00:26:57,216 come into contact with him that day. 611 00:26:57,249 --> 00:26:59,018 - I know also there were quite a few observers 612 00:26:59,051 --> 00:27:01,420 to Holmes's execution. 613 00:27:01,453 --> 00:27:02,354 - [Annie] Yes. 614 00:27:02,388 --> 00:27:04,323 - I read as many as 200 people were there. 615 00:27:04,356 --> 00:27:05,491 - Mm-hmm. 616 00:27:05,524 --> 00:27:08,327 Hangings in the late 1800s were kind of public affairs, 617 00:27:08,360 --> 00:27:11,130 but people who went onto the gallows who were executed 618 00:27:11,163 --> 00:27:13,966 often had hoods on so their face was obscured. 619 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,068 - Did your readings indicate that Holmes 620 00:27:16,102 --> 00:27:18,337 had been hung with a hood on or not? 621 00:27:18,370 --> 00:27:20,239 - The articles that I've read indicate 622 00:27:20,272 --> 00:27:23,009 that he was hung with a hood on. 623 00:27:23,042 --> 00:27:24,410 - [Jeff] So theoretically, he could have 624 00:27:24,443 --> 00:27:27,079 paid off someone to take his place. 625 00:27:27,113 --> 00:27:29,816 - It seems like a pretty wild theory. 626 00:27:29,849 --> 00:27:31,250 - Did you also find out anything 627 00:27:31,283 --> 00:27:34,721 about whether an autopsy was conducted after the execution? 628 00:27:34,754 --> 00:27:37,256 - Holmes specifically stated he did not want 629 00:27:37,289 --> 00:27:39,025 an autopsy taken on his body. 630 00:27:39,058 --> 00:27:40,226 - And that was approved by the superintendent? 631 00:27:40,259 --> 00:27:44,363 - And that was approved, and so there was never an autopsy. 632 00:27:44,396 --> 00:27:45,364 - And that was approved. 633 00:27:45,397 --> 00:27:47,466 - [Narrator] At Eastern State Penitentiary, 634 00:27:47,499 --> 00:27:49,769 Jeff and Amaryllis are investigating a theory 635 00:27:49,802 --> 00:27:53,005 that suggests notorious swindler and murderer H.H. Holmes 636 00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:55,842 may have pulled off the ultimate con 637 00:27:55,875 --> 00:27:58,177 and escaped his hanging in 1896. 638 00:27:59,846 --> 00:28:02,815 - What happened to the body, typically, after an execution? 639 00:28:02,849 --> 00:28:04,416 - Some prisoners were brought out 640 00:28:04,450 --> 00:28:07,787 and buried in potter's fields or in cemeteries. 641 00:28:07,820 --> 00:28:09,388 The story with Holmes is that he was brought out 642 00:28:09,421 --> 00:28:11,858 and he was buried in a cemetery. 643 00:28:11,891 --> 00:28:14,226 - Was it possible to escape a prison like Moyamensing? 644 00:28:14,260 --> 00:28:16,395 - It was, and in fact, there were escapes. 645 00:28:16,428 --> 00:28:18,831 So we know that a prisoner was working on the roof, 646 00:28:18,865 --> 00:28:21,267 and he was on a special duty to fix the roof, 647 00:28:21,300 --> 00:28:23,302 and he hopped over the wall and slid down a pipe 648 00:28:23,335 --> 00:28:25,104 and he was gone. 649 00:28:25,137 --> 00:28:28,107 We know other prisoners walked out through the front door 650 00:28:28,140 --> 00:28:29,475 wearing civilian clothing. 651 00:28:29,508 --> 00:28:32,745 So escapes were possible in that era. 652 00:28:32,779 --> 00:28:34,313 - [Amaryllis] Can we take a look at what it's like inside? 653 00:28:34,346 --> 00:28:35,281 - [Annie] Sure. 654 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,090 - Generally, were the guards here honest and above board, 655 00:28:44,123 --> 00:28:45,291 or were they on the take? 656 00:28:45,324 --> 00:28:48,360 - A lot of the guards would have been working class guys. 657 00:28:48,394 --> 00:28:50,296 They weren't getting paid a lot of money, 658 00:28:50,329 --> 00:28:52,298 so a little extra cash from a prisoner 659 00:28:52,331 --> 00:28:54,533 could have gone a long way. 660 00:28:54,566 --> 00:28:56,435 - For the year and a half that Holmes is in his prison, 661 00:28:56,468 --> 00:28:59,872 he's in his cell 23 hours a day or so. 662 00:28:59,906 --> 00:29:01,540 What's he spending his time on? 663 00:29:01,573 --> 00:29:05,377 - We can presume that he spent a lot of time in solitude, 664 00:29:05,411 --> 00:29:09,949 reflecting on his life, writing his confessions. 665 00:29:09,982 --> 00:29:12,351 Him being allowed to have writing implements 666 00:29:12,384 --> 00:29:14,386 and journalists coming to see him, 667 00:29:14,420 --> 00:29:16,422 letters coming in the mail, that's something 668 00:29:16,455 --> 00:29:19,091 that a regular prisoner, an everyday prisoner probably 669 00:29:19,125 --> 00:29:21,393 would not have gotten, and probably a privilege 670 00:29:21,427 --> 00:29:25,097 granted to him because of his status as a "celebrity." 671 00:29:25,131 --> 00:29:28,067 - It's amazing to imagine one of these tiny cells 672 00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:31,503 being used kind of as his PR headquarters, 673 00:29:31,537 --> 00:29:33,505 with journalists coming and going, 674 00:29:33,539 --> 00:29:37,810 to create and build on this nationwide brand, 675 00:29:37,844 --> 00:29:39,846 all out of one of these prison cells. 676 00:29:39,879 --> 00:29:40,546 - Yeah. 677 00:29:40,579 --> 00:29:41,547 There's actually a rumor 678 00:29:41,580 --> 00:29:45,017 that he made a confession that was recorded 679 00:29:45,051 --> 00:29:48,054 on this very primitive audio recording device. 680 00:29:48,087 --> 00:29:49,055 - Of his voice? 681 00:29:49,088 --> 00:29:49,856 - [Annie] Of his voice. 682 00:29:49,889 --> 00:29:50,789 - Wow. 683 00:29:50,823 --> 00:29:52,458 - [Annie] Confessing to multiple murders. 684 00:29:52,491 --> 00:29:54,026 - We've got to look that up. 685 00:29:54,060 --> 00:29:56,028 I never imagined that I'd be able to hear 686 00:29:56,062 --> 00:30:00,466 the actual voice of my great great grandfather. 687 00:30:00,499 --> 00:30:03,235 And someone with an ego like Holmes may have boasted about 688 00:30:03,269 --> 00:30:05,371 anything in his final confessions, 689 00:30:05,404 --> 00:30:09,341 maybe even about the crimes that link him to London in 1888. 690 00:30:10,977 --> 00:30:12,511 - Well, if we're able to get our hands on that recording 691 00:30:12,544 --> 00:30:15,414 and your theory is correct, then we'll be hearing the voice 692 00:30:15,447 --> 00:30:19,151 of Jack the Ripper echoing through 125 years of history. 693 00:30:19,185 --> 00:30:19,886 - Wow! 694 00:30:19,919 --> 00:30:21,553 I mean, I'm incredibly excited. 695 00:30:21,587 --> 00:30:22,521 - Well, do you know 696 00:30:22,554 --> 00:30:23,589 how we could get a hold of this recording? 697 00:30:23,622 --> 00:30:26,192 - This collector supposedly has this recording. 698 00:30:26,225 --> 00:30:27,493 Whether or not it's an authentic recording 699 00:30:27,526 --> 00:30:29,161 remains to be seen. 700 00:30:29,195 --> 00:30:29,862 - [Amaryllis] Why don't you see 701 00:30:29,896 --> 00:30:30,863 if you can track down that lead? 702 00:30:30,897 --> 00:30:31,898 And in the meantime, I'm gonna do some research 703 00:30:31,931 --> 00:30:36,402 on how Holmes might have orchestrated an escape. 704 00:30:36,435 --> 00:30:39,271 (suspenseful music) 705 00:30:43,409 --> 00:30:46,312 * Come all ye round us if you want to hear 706 00:30:46,345 --> 00:30:50,316 * A story about a brave engineer 707 00:30:50,349 --> 00:30:53,452 * Casey Jones was around the day 708 00:30:53,485 --> 00:30:55,387 - This particular cylinder was introduced 709 00:30:55,421 --> 00:30:59,358 at the end of 1912 and was in production till 1929. 710 00:31:01,928 --> 00:31:04,363 - [Narrator] Audio recording technology is in its infancy 711 00:31:04,396 --> 00:31:06,365 in the late 19th century. 712 00:31:06,398 --> 00:31:09,168 To capture H.H. Holmes's jailhouse confession 713 00:31:09,201 --> 00:31:11,437 would have required a cylinder phonograph 714 00:31:11,470 --> 00:31:13,572 with a special needle to etch sound waves 715 00:31:13,605 --> 00:31:16,008 onto wax cylinders. 716 00:31:16,042 --> 00:31:19,011 Jeff has tracked down a professor who owns a priceless 717 00:31:19,045 --> 00:31:23,015 collection of the world's earliest cylinder recordings. 718 00:31:23,049 --> 00:31:25,151 - I've been told that you have a recording 719 00:31:25,184 --> 00:31:27,486 of my great great grandfather H.H. Holmes. 720 00:31:27,519 --> 00:31:30,322 - It's a distinct possibility. 721 00:31:30,356 --> 00:31:34,660 As a collector myself, I used to buy old boxes of records. 722 00:31:34,693 --> 00:31:37,396 And in one of those boxes, 723 00:31:37,429 --> 00:31:40,399 I came across a record that was unlabeled. 724 00:31:40,432 --> 00:31:44,336 I played the record, and it sounded like a man 725 00:31:44,370 --> 00:31:47,906 confessing to killing 27 people. 726 00:31:57,216 --> 00:31:59,351 - I'm obviously incredibly interested 727 00:31:59,385 --> 00:32:02,054 in hearing my ancestor's voice on the recording. 728 00:32:02,088 --> 00:32:05,157 Is there any chance I could listen to it here today? 729 00:32:05,191 --> 00:32:07,226 - [Narrator] Investigating the theory that H.H. Holmes 730 00:32:07,259 --> 00:32:10,696 assumed the identity of Jack the Ripper in 1888, 731 00:32:10,729 --> 00:32:12,264 Jeff Mudgett has tracked down 732 00:32:12,298 --> 00:32:14,266 what may be a primitive audio recording 733 00:32:14,300 --> 00:32:17,203 of his great great grandfather's final confession. 734 00:32:17,236 --> 00:32:21,207 - The record itself is too fragile. 735 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,142 It could easily crack while playing. 736 00:32:23,175 --> 00:32:26,545 So I do have a fairly accurate transcript. 737 00:32:28,214 --> 00:32:31,050 - "During the past few months, it has been repeatedly 738 00:32:31,083 --> 00:32:34,353 "expressed that I make a detailed confession 739 00:32:34,386 --> 00:32:37,223 "of all the graver crimes that have been traced out 740 00:32:37,256 --> 00:32:39,125 "and brought home to me. 741 00:32:41,493 --> 00:32:46,132 "I am not sorry, for it would not do any good for me. 742 00:32:46,165 --> 00:32:50,102 "I regret only one murder, and that was of Minnie Williams, 743 00:32:51,070 --> 00:32:53,605 "because I think I loved her." 744 00:32:53,639 --> 00:32:54,806 Wow. 745 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:59,145 "Well, it's done now, and I think I made a good job of it. 746 00:32:59,178 --> 00:33:03,249 "I was born with the devil in me, and I cannot help the fact 747 00:33:03,282 --> 00:33:05,717 "that I was a murderer, no more than the poet 748 00:33:05,751 --> 00:33:08,554 "can help the inspiration to a song. 749 00:33:08,587 --> 00:33:11,523 "I was born with the evil one standing beside the bed 750 00:33:11,557 --> 00:33:14,126 "when I was ushered into the world, 751 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,063 "and he has been with me ever since." 752 00:33:18,130 --> 00:33:18,730 Wow. 753 00:33:22,368 --> 00:33:25,137 I don't have any doubt it's his, his words. 754 00:33:25,171 --> 00:33:29,141 What moves me most is 755 00:33:29,175 --> 00:33:31,243 how closely it connects 756 00:33:31,277 --> 00:33:35,547 to his memoirs, and also of the literature used 757 00:33:35,581 --> 00:33:39,185 in the Dear Boss letter in London, Jack the Ripper fame. 758 00:33:39,218 --> 00:33:41,253 In this confession, Holmes says, 759 00:33:41,287 --> 00:33:43,822 "It's done, and I think I made a good job of it." 760 00:33:43,855 --> 00:33:47,193 And in the Ripper's 1888 Dear Boss letter to the press, 761 00:33:47,226 --> 00:33:50,729 he wrote, "Grand work the last job was." 762 00:33:50,762 --> 00:33:53,532 Both killers talk about their murders as their work 763 00:33:53,565 --> 00:33:56,135 and brag about the good jobs they've done. 764 00:33:56,168 --> 00:33:58,304 The language is eerily similar. 765 00:33:58,337 --> 00:33:59,671 - As well, one also gets the feeling 766 00:33:59,705 --> 00:34:03,242 that if he had another chance to do it all over again, 767 00:34:03,275 --> 00:34:07,213 he'd probably kill her again, and regret it again. 768 00:34:09,248 --> 00:34:12,118 (suspenseful music) 769 00:34:12,151 --> 00:34:13,519 - [Amaryllis] So I did some research on this theory 770 00:34:13,552 --> 00:34:15,421 that Holmes escaped his own death 771 00:34:15,454 --> 00:34:17,256 and found some reports that are worth checking out. 772 00:34:17,289 --> 00:34:18,257 - [Jeff] Okay. 773 00:34:18,290 --> 00:34:20,092 - "In a conversation with a Mercury reporter, 774 00:34:20,126 --> 00:34:23,162 "Mr. Warner said that Holmes was never hanged in reality, 775 00:34:23,195 --> 00:34:25,331 "but through the wonderful craftiness 776 00:34:25,364 --> 00:34:27,233 "that distinguished him all during his life, 777 00:34:27,266 --> 00:34:28,867 "finally managed to elude the gallows 778 00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:31,403 "and have himself hanged by proxy 779 00:34:31,437 --> 00:34:34,306 "in the person of a poor and struggling physician 780 00:34:34,340 --> 00:34:37,376 "from an interior town of New York, Aldony Warner, 781 00:34:37,409 --> 00:34:39,845 "who is the business partner of H.H. Holmes." 782 00:34:39,878 --> 00:34:42,481 - He was associated with the Warner Glass Company. 783 00:34:42,514 --> 00:34:45,151 He'd known Holmes professionally for years 784 00:34:45,184 --> 00:34:47,286 so he's a pretty credible source. 785 00:34:47,319 --> 00:34:48,720 - [Amaryllis] Take a loot at this. 786 00:34:48,754 --> 00:34:50,822 "Is H.H. Holmes alive? 787 00:34:50,856 --> 00:34:53,625 "Robert Lattimer says the great criminal was not hanged." 788 00:34:53,659 --> 00:34:54,793 - Robert Lattimer? 789 00:34:54,826 --> 00:34:59,498 That's one of the 27 that Holmes confessed to murdering 790 00:34:59,531 --> 00:35:02,601 and some believe a co-conspirator with Holmes 791 00:35:02,634 --> 00:35:05,204 on some of the frauds he committed in Chicago. 792 00:35:05,237 --> 00:35:07,539 - So he was one of the 27 Holmes confessed to murdering 793 00:35:07,573 --> 00:35:09,241 but were actually still alive? 794 00:35:09,275 --> 00:35:10,242 - [Jeff] He was alive. 795 00:35:10,276 --> 00:35:11,443 - Based on this article, 796 00:35:11,477 --> 00:35:14,813 he says that Holmes escaped in a coffin and claims that 797 00:35:14,846 --> 00:35:17,783 a cadaver was substituted at the execution, 798 00:35:17,816 --> 00:35:20,352 which frankly, isn't that outrageous because we know 799 00:35:20,386 --> 00:35:22,188 the sale of his book of confessions 800 00:35:22,221 --> 00:35:25,257 had given him $300,000 in today's money. 801 00:35:25,291 --> 00:35:27,526 In other words, a bribe. 802 00:35:27,559 --> 00:35:29,761 - [Narrator] In the 19th century, it is not typical 803 00:35:29,795 --> 00:35:33,365 to grant convicted murderers any special favors, 804 00:35:33,399 --> 00:35:36,368 but Holmes is no ordinary prisoner. 805 00:35:36,402 --> 00:35:38,470 The sale of his confessions makes him 806 00:35:38,504 --> 00:35:41,307 the wealthiest death row inmate in the country, 807 00:35:41,340 --> 00:35:44,176 and his trial makes him a celebrity. 808 00:35:45,577 --> 00:35:47,946 But despite the extensive press coverage, no one knows 809 00:35:47,979 --> 00:35:52,351 for sure what happens to Holmes's money after the trial. 810 00:35:52,384 --> 00:35:54,486 - Ah, okay, well here he outlines 811 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,256 arrangements for the mock execution. 812 00:35:57,289 --> 00:35:59,658 We're talking about a major conspiracy 813 00:35:59,691 --> 00:36:02,528 if this is actually how he pulled it off. 814 00:36:02,561 --> 00:36:04,496 "As the clergymen and officers in charge 815 00:36:04,530 --> 00:36:07,966 "crowded in front of the law's victim, 816 00:36:07,999 --> 00:36:09,801 "for a few brief moments, the condemned man 817 00:36:09,835 --> 00:36:12,204 "was completely screened from the view 818 00:36:12,238 --> 00:36:14,640 "of the little ammount of witnesses on the prison floor. 819 00:36:14,673 --> 00:36:16,675 "The living man stepped off into the space 820 00:36:16,708 --> 00:36:18,910 "beneath the platform as the dead man 821 00:36:18,944 --> 00:36:22,348 "was hastily lifted into his place." 822 00:36:22,381 --> 00:36:25,284 And Holmes is crouching underneath the scaffold, 823 00:36:25,317 --> 00:36:27,753 hiding from view in order to be smuggled out. 824 00:36:27,786 --> 00:36:29,821 There may not be that many accounts, but these two sources 825 00:36:29,855 --> 00:36:32,324 are pretty credible and the stories they're telling 826 00:36:32,358 --> 00:36:36,428 corroborate one another and mention techniques 827 00:36:36,462 --> 00:36:38,730 that we've seen Holmes use in the past. 828 00:36:38,764 --> 00:36:41,333 I want to understand what kind of security measures 829 00:36:41,367 --> 00:36:43,369 were in place or whether there are any records 830 00:36:43,402 --> 00:36:45,271 that could help us understand whether the body 831 00:36:45,304 --> 00:36:47,773 was identified again once it reached the cemetery. 832 00:36:47,806 --> 00:36:49,341 - You want to go out to the cemetery? 833 00:36:49,375 --> 00:36:51,343 - I think it's our best bet to understand 834 00:36:51,377 --> 00:36:55,881 whether he actually could have pulled this off. 835 00:36:55,914 --> 00:36:58,284 - [Narrator] The coffin of H.H. Holmes is transported 836 00:36:58,317 --> 00:37:01,653 about six miles from Moyamensing Prison to a nearby cemetery 837 00:37:01,687 --> 00:37:06,392 on May 7th, 1896 and buried on the site the following day. 838 00:37:07,058 --> 00:37:09,295 - The cemetery was open in 1890, 839 00:37:09,328 --> 00:37:12,531 so that would make it a hundred and what, 27 years old 840 00:37:12,564 --> 00:37:15,434 and there's a lot of people buried here. 841 00:37:15,467 --> 00:37:17,669 - [Narrator] Jeff and Amaryllis are here to uncover details 842 00:37:17,703 --> 00:37:20,272 about the alleged final resting place 843 00:37:20,306 --> 00:37:22,808 of America's first serial killer. 844 00:37:26,845 --> 00:37:29,047 - [Amaryllis] This looks like serious business. 845 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,383 - This is the burial register. 846 00:37:31,417 --> 00:37:32,984 On May 7th, we have a-- 847 00:37:34,019 --> 00:37:34,986 - [Amaryllis] There he is. 848 00:37:35,020 --> 00:37:36,054 - Herman W. Mudgett. 849 00:37:36,087 --> 00:37:39,458 The state purchased two graves and they buried him 850 00:37:39,491 --> 00:37:41,593 in the center of both of those graves. 851 00:37:41,627 --> 00:37:44,963 - Wait, is it unusual for one person to purchase two plots? 852 00:37:44,996 --> 00:37:46,498 - [Bill] It's very unusual. 853 00:37:46,532 --> 00:37:50,336 There had to be a reason. 854 00:37:50,369 --> 00:37:52,604 - [Narrator] Running down the theory that H.H. Holmes 855 00:37:52,638 --> 00:37:55,407 may have pulled off one of his greatest cons 856 00:37:55,441 --> 00:37:58,377 by escaping his execution, Jeff and Amaryllis 857 00:37:58,410 --> 00:38:01,347 access rare records housed at the cemetery 858 00:38:01,380 --> 00:38:04,049 where Holmes is said to have been laid to rest. 859 00:38:04,082 --> 00:38:06,318 - [Bill] This is the ah, internment ledger. 860 00:38:06,352 --> 00:38:09,655 This is the book that has detail of the sections, okay? 861 00:38:09,688 --> 00:38:11,757 This is section 15 and 16. 862 00:38:14,493 --> 00:38:16,395 - [Narrator] The documents contain a first-hand account 863 00:38:16,428 --> 00:38:20,098 of Holmes's last requests regarding his burial. 864 00:38:20,131 --> 00:38:21,333 - [Bill] According to this record, 865 00:38:21,367 --> 00:38:23,402 they dug this grave at 10 foot, 866 00:38:23,435 --> 00:38:27,506 and they loaded him down and poured cement on top. 867 00:38:27,539 --> 00:38:30,776 - Wait, wait, it's noted here 868 00:38:30,809 --> 00:38:33,779 that his grave was covered in cement? 869 00:38:33,812 --> 00:38:35,013 - [Bill] That's what I'm reading. 870 00:38:35,046 --> 00:38:37,483 - I mean, that's wild! 871 00:38:37,516 --> 00:38:40,352 Have you ever seen that happen in another case? 872 00:38:40,386 --> 00:38:42,053 - Can't say that I have 873 00:38:42,087 --> 00:38:44,990 but apparently they were his instructions. 874 00:38:45,023 --> 00:38:48,760 - The depth of the grave, 10 feet, is that unusual? 875 00:38:48,794 --> 00:38:50,996 - Well, it's kind of deep, yeah. 876 00:38:51,029 --> 00:38:53,565 Usually, typically, it would be an 8-foot grave, 877 00:38:53,599 --> 00:38:55,133 definitely very special instructions. 878 00:38:55,166 --> 00:39:00,105 - Why do you suppose you would line a grave with cement? 879 00:39:00,138 --> 00:39:02,574 - I can come up with two reasons offhand. 880 00:39:02,608 --> 00:39:05,677 One, he didn't want anyone robbing his grave. 881 00:39:05,711 --> 00:39:08,647 Two, he didn't want anything found there 882 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,116 that he was concerned about. 883 00:39:11,149 --> 00:39:13,151 At this time, prisoners on death row 884 00:39:13,184 --> 00:39:15,153 were largely from the lowest social class 885 00:39:15,186 --> 00:39:18,490 and usually ended up in a potter's field. 886 00:39:18,524 --> 00:39:20,626 But not only was Holmes's money and murderous charm 887 00:39:20,659 --> 00:39:23,495 meant that he was granted every bizarre request 888 00:39:23,529 --> 00:39:27,899 for his internment, which was unheard of at the time. 889 00:39:27,933 --> 00:39:32,571 - This is a very unusual burial, top to bottom. 890 00:39:32,604 --> 00:39:35,073 - For sure, definitely. 891 00:39:35,106 --> 00:39:37,108 - You have the double plot. 892 00:39:37,142 --> 00:39:38,444 You have the depth. 893 00:39:38,477 --> 00:39:39,711 You have the concrete on top. 894 00:39:39,745 --> 00:39:41,613 You've got space on either side. 895 00:39:41,647 --> 00:39:43,148 Every one of these records 896 00:39:43,181 --> 00:39:46,184 raises more questions than it answers. 897 00:39:46,217 --> 00:39:47,185 Do you think we could go out 898 00:39:47,218 --> 00:39:48,854 and actually take a look at the site itself? 899 00:39:48,887 --> 00:39:50,155 - Sure. 900 00:39:50,188 --> 00:39:53,091 (suspenseful music) 901 00:40:02,067 --> 00:40:02,868 This is it. 902 00:40:04,903 --> 00:40:05,937 - There's no headstone. 903 00:40:05,971 --> 00:40:07,506 - [Bill] No headstone. 904 00:40:07,539 --> 00:40:10,742 According to the records, Mudgett purchased 905 00:40:10,776 --> 00:40:14,480 graves three, in that lot, and four. 906 00:40:14,513 --> 00:40:15,547 - [Jeff] Okay. 907 00:40:15,581 --> 00:40:19,017 - And he is supposed to be smack dab in the middle 908 00:40:19,050 --> 00:40:22,921 of the two graves, with the concrete poured on top of him. 909 00:40:22,954 --> 00:40:23,989 - [Jeff] Directly in the center. 910 00:40:24,022 --> 00:40:26,458 - [Bill] Directly in the center. 911 00:40:26,492 --> 00:40:29,728 - Here's somebody who has spent his entire life 912 00:40:29,761 --> 00:40:32,864 trying to put his name in lights. 913 00:40:32,898 --> 00:40:36,602 - Was this his way of hiding a secret 914 00:40:37,803 --> 00:40:41,206 about his execution and actual burial? 915 00:40:42,073 --> 00:40:44,710 The only way I'm going to find out if H.H. Holmes 916 00:40:44,743 --> 00:40:48,179 escaped death and may actually be Jack the Ripper 917 00:40:48,213 --> 00:40:52,050 is to see what, if anything, is buried here. 918 00:40:52,083 --> 00:40:54,486 - Wait, are you talking about actually taking a shovel 919 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,555 to the ground and digging up your great great grandfather? 920 00:40:56,588 --> 00:40:58,056 - There's something here that bothers me. 921 00:40:58,089 --> 00:41:00,091 There's something that doesn't make sense. 922 00:41:00,125 --> 00:41:03,094 And I think we need to look deeper. 923 00:41:03,128 --> 00:41:05,664 - That's a huge step. 924 00:41:05,697 --> 00:41:06,965 - We've got to put a shovel to this. 925 00:41:06,998 --> 00:41:09,635 We've got to dig into the ground. 926 00:41:13,271 --> 00:41:17,008 - [Narrator] On the season finale of American Ripper. 927 00:41:17,042 --> 00:41:18,577 - We did find something interesting. 928 00:41:18,610 --> 00:41:20,512 This is Elizabeth Stride. 929 00:41:20,546 --> 00:41:24,082 - We are a huge step closer to nailing down 930 00:41:24,115 --> 00:41:26,251 that Holmes was Jack the Ripper. 931 00:41:26,284 --> 00:41:29,054 - You think we could be looking at backbone right there. 932 00:41:29,087 --> 00:41:31,256 - We haven't found a body 933 00:41:31,289 --> 00:41:34,860 and we're down to levels where it should be. 934 00:41:36,194 --> 00:41:38,830 - There, there, there, there, there, there, there. 935 00:41:38,864 --> 00:41:40,532 I can't believe I'm saying this Jeff 936 00:41:40,566 --> 00:41:43,935 but I think the bastard might have walked away. 937 00:41:43,969 --> 00:41:46,838 (suspenseful music) 75414

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