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- He was active all
over the country.
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He had some scams
going in St. Louis.
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He went to New
York several times,
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I found at least 60
lawsuits, in Chicago alone
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that this guy ended up in.
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- We have evidence of
Ripper-style killings
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in Chicago.
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We're discovering that there
were many different ways
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Holmes could have murdered
and disposed of the bodies.
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- [Man I have a theory that
Holmes was encasing bodies
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in cement, and dumping
them in the Chicago River.
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- There may actually be
viable physical evidence
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inside those blocks of cement.
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This is a really
large debris field,
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right next to the physical
property owned by Holmes.
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- [Chuck] We're approaching
your area of interest.
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- Let's see if we can't
find some concrete.
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(upbeat music)
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- Skeer-tay, skeer-tay,
skeer-tay, to-pon U.S. 25743.
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We're gonna be doing
some bottom soundings.
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- [Amaryllis] We'll take the
ship in a kind of grid pattern?
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- Correct.
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We'll run it along
parallel to the shore,
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make several passes.
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- I see.
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- [Narrator] Jeff Mudgett
and ex-CIA operative,
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Amaryllis Fox, are scanning
the bottom of the Chicago River
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for gruesome evidence in
a 130-year-old mystery.
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Body parts, encased in concrete
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by the infamous serial
killer, H. H. Holmes.
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- The interesting part
for me is gonna be
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if he did use that technique
to get rid of the bodies
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is what kind of sized
blocks we're looking at.
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- Exactly.
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- These could be
human-sized cement coffins,
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or they could be smaller
chunks of concrete
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that contain body parts.
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We analyzed the Jack the
Ripper autopsy reports earlier
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in our investigation, and they
led us to some new insights
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about the Ripper's murder
weapon and method of killing.
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But because Holmes
was so consistent
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in getting rid of the
bodies of his victims,
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there are no autopsy reports
from any of his murders.
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So, in order to have
physical evidence
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to compare Holmes' kills
with Jack the Ripper,
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we need to find a body.
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- [Narrator] By 1893,
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Holmes' murder castle
is fully operational,
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engineered with three stories
of rooms designed to kill.
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But con man Holmes owns
other Chicago properties,
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including a suspicious
cement warehouse on the banks
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of the river, that
buys in raw materials,
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but never sells any
finished concrete.
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Evidence revealed in
the investigation,
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suggests that Holmes may have
used the cement warehouse
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as a front for
disposing of bodies,
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in order to pull off a
large-scale killing operation.
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- [Jeff] Now what does this
machine give us a look at?
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- Basically what it
is, it's a picture,
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and you're shining a flashlight
over the bottom here.
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Where we're seeing
little bright spots,
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it's hitting a nice solid
object, bouncing back,
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and then there's a
shadow behind it,
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and that's how we can kinda
see that an object is sticking
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up above the bottom.
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- And that would let us
know if there is something
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that we could actually
pull up and crack open
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and take a look at?
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- [Chuck] Yes.
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- [Narrator] An initial scan
of the river bed revealed
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a cluster of heavy objects
were dumped just feet
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from the footprint of Holmes'
old warehouse some time ago.
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But before divers can
investigate
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and retrieve evidence,
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city officials require a
record of exact coordinates
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and dimensions.
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- [Chuck] Speed is good.
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A little tighter.
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A little tighter if you can.
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- Are we in the area where
we saw the debris field
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with the submersible robot?
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- [Chuck] Yes, this is the area.
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- [Jeff] Hey, Chuck, what's
the hard black object there?
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- That's an interesting target.
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That is a shadow of a
target that's sticking out,
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- Wow, that's a big divot.
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- [Chuck] Yes.
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- [Jeff] Now, how big was that?
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- Probably a couple of meters,
and it is fairly square.
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- [Amaryllis] That sounds
like something I wanna get
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out of the river.
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- You've got quite a
few targets along here.
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- Oh, yeah?
- Yeah.
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- [Jeff] These ones
are about a meter?
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- Wow!
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- We have multiple targets,
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10 to almost approximately
20 feet off that wall.
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- That's exactly what we saw
with the submersible robot.
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So this is the sonar
confirmation
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of that same debris field.
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- Correct.
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- [Jeff] Oh boy.
- [Amaryllis] Whoa.
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Well I think we know
where we need to look.
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- Coming up with that
image in relationship
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to the Holmes'
storage facilities,
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I think we've made
a major discovery.
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- I mean, it's pretty striking
to have a big debris field
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right on the river bed outside
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of our primary suspect's cement
factory, when he's a doctor,
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and has no reason to
have a cement factory.
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- Yeah, we've had some
interesting targets.
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Had some scattered debris,
and then we do have
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what looks like a
rectangular shape.
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- [Amaryllis] How big is that?
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- That is a little over
like a meter and a half.
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- [Jeff] Five, six feet?
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- [Chuck] Yeah, about
five or six feet.
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- The dimensions and the shape,
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what else does that look like?
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- A big, giant concrete
coffin under the silt.
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- [Jeff] Yeah, absolutely.
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- And now we know exactly
where it is, gridded out,
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and fairly close to the wall,
given the image here, right?
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So, we'd be looking
somewhere in there?
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- [Chuck] Yes.
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- So can we get a diver in
the water and get it out?
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- That, unfortunately,
will take some time.
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It's not as easy as
getting the diver.
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There's all kind of
regulations and paperwork
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to go into this area and
actually extract something.
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It's a very industrialized site
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and there's lots
of contamination,
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lots of potential hazards
in the water there,
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and so, for everyone's safety,
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the EPA would like
more understanding
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of what you want to do.
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- Oh, damn.
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- I can't walk away from
that image now, I can't.
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- We should get that
permission on file
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and then we'll circle back.
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- [Jeff] After so much work
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that's gone into
this investigation,
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it's tough to just wait.
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- Yeah.
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- We've got a crime
scene full of evidence
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and we can't get to it.
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- Yeah, it's frustrating
but I've gotta say
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it's really encouraging to see
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these modern forensic
techniques and the technology
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that we're using
open up new leads
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that just weren't available
to investigators at the time.
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- So what's next?
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- I mean, I think we should
pick up Holmes' footsteps
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after the World's Fair
and see what he did next.
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There have got to be more
crime scenes out there,
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and physical evidence that
could connect the two killers.
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We should meet up with Adam.
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- So the tail-end of 1893
was not so good for Holmes.
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There were at least 60
lawsuits against him,
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and a collection agency had
organized them all together
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and they were planning
to arrest him.
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- [Narrator] Chicago's big
event of 1893, the World's Fair,
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closes at the end of October.
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By November, the city
returns to normal.
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For Holmes, that
means swindling.
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Over the eight years
he spends in the city,
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he pulls off countless
financial scams
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and takes on a
fraudulent marriage,
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as well as a slew of mistresses.
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- And it gets worse.
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He had taken out
several insurance policies
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and then he set fire
to the third floor.
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- [Amaryllis] Wait, he set
fire to his murder castle?
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- Yep, and he immediately
tried to claim
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all the insurance policies.
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The police, they saw
right through it,
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and for the first time,
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he knows they're going
to hunt him down.
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- It sounds like he's
got all these creditors
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about to stage an intervention
and arrest him essentially,
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and four insurance companies,
all of whom wanna arrest him
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on insurance fraud.
- Uh-huh.
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- [Amaryllis] Wowl,
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so Holmes is feeling
the pressure hard.
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- So he thought by
getting out of town
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he could let a lot
of the heat off.
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- We've seen Holmes
flee town before,
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in the summer of 1888,
when he was named
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in a string of lawsuits
related to the construction
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of the murder castle.
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It's in this period that we
lost Holmes' paper trail,
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and couldn't definitively
place him back in Chicago
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until the spring of 1889,
shortly after the end
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of the Whitechapel
killings in London.
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So by leaving town
after the World's Fair,
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Holmes seems to be
repeating a pattern
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of scamming until
things get hot,
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and then leaving town
to avoid his creditors.
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- [Jeff] So once his
scams started to unravel,
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that's when he hits the road?
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- Mm-hmm.
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But naturally, he
had an escape plan.
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- Of course he did.
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- Alright, so now he's
hired a new young lady,
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Minnie Williams, who
has come up from Tas,
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and immediately fell into
the clutches of H. H. Holmes.
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- [Narrator] The daughter
of an affluent family,
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Minnie Williams is
the perfect mark.
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Together, she and her sister
own a large plot of land
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in Fort Worth, Texas,
which Holmes will later use
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as a centerpiece of
his plan to skip town
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and escape his creditors.
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- Holmes drew up a fake deed
transferring her property
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in Fort Worth over to him.
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But in order to make it work,
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(screaming)
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he had to get rid of
both her and her sister.
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- So this is Holmes'
escape plan from Chicago?
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- [Adam] Right, and when
he eventually did show up
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in Fort Worth, he
had a deed saying
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I'm now the owner of
this property purchased
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from Minnie Williams.
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- So what did he do
once he got to Texas?
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- Well, a week before,
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they had sent a
Benjamin Pitezel ahead.
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Pitezel had been working with
Holmes in various swindles
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for at least a year
by then in Chicago.
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- Given what we know about
Holmes' gruesome acts,
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it's hard to believe anyone
would've been willing
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to help him, but he actually
had several known accomplices
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during his time in Chicago.
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His closest known associate
was Benjamin Pitezel,
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a husband and
father from Chicago,
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who clearly had little trouble
cleaning up after a madman,
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for the right price.
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- So Pitezel was sent ahead as
the advance man to Fort Worth
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to take care of
all the paperwork,
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so by the time that
Holmes got there,
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they were ready
to start building.
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- [Amaryllis] Start
building what?
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- His second castle.
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's it,
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you know, the heat is on here,
I have to get out of here.
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He was done with Chicago.
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- [Narrator] In the
final months of 1893,
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H. H. Holmes successfully
dodges his creditors in Chicago
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and sets the wheels in
motion for his next con.
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In Fort Worth, Texas, with
the help of his accomplice,
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Benjamin Pitezel,
he draws up plans
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to franchise the murder castle.
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- [John] So this is the
exterior of the building.
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- Oh, it's literally identical.
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That could be a drawing
of the building at 63rd
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and Wallace in Chicago.
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- [Narrator] Hunting
for physical evidence
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that could tie H. H.
Holmes to Jack the Ripper,
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Jeff and Amaryllis meet with
documentarian John Borowski
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to learn more about Holmes'
second murder castle.
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- You can see the man,
designing and building this,
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knowing that what he had
in Chicago was perfect.
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- Definitely, if you look at
the inside of this building,
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what's so interesting is
it looks like the layout
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of his castle as well.
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Look at all these rooms
and if you look here,
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that's where the chute would be,
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just like the other building.
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The interesting thing
about the one in Texas was,
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he had designed it so that
the bodies would be thrown
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directly down into the sewer.
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Easier body disposal.
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- [Amaryllis] That's
fascinating.
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What's interesting to me, given
what we saw in Whitechapel,
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is, if this is the same person,
you have an adolescence,
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killing in open air,
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with interruptions
from the police.
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If that sparks the
idea, okay, well a hotel
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or a boarding house is
a good place to be able
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to lure young women,
work uninterrupted,
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and dispose of the body.
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The Chicago hotel really
represents the first attempt
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at that but Holmes sees
room for improvement still,
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so he adds one additional tweak
and reproduces it in Texas.
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It's really pretty
extraordinary.
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- And making it so
there's no evidence
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like Mary Kelly's body
left behind to photograph.
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- [Amaryllis] Straight
into sewer.
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- So, what happened
in Texas, John?
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- So here's Holmes in
Texas with his new wife,
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and Benjamin Pitezel--
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- [Amaryllis]
Wait, a third wife?
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- [John] Yes.
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- [Amaryllis] Amazing.
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- Holmes met Georgiana
Yoke at a department store
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in Chicago.
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She was this young
woman in her early 20s,
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and eventually they got married.
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Little did she know, of
course, that he was married
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to two other women
at the same time.
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- [Jeff] Did he and
Georgiana actually live
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in the second murder castle?
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- No, he forcefully and
strangely stole horses in Texas
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and then he put them
on a train to Chicago,
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and maybe they were
gonna sell them,
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but people in Texas
and law enforcement,
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they got wind of this, and
they run him out of town.
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- Shows you how the heat was on
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because Holmes would not
have been able to leave
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that property that easily.
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He knew he had to go.
- Yea.
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- So did he take Pitezel and
Georgiana with him, when he--
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- [John] Yes.
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- [Amaryllis] Got out of Dodge?
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- [John] Yeah, they're
traveling with him, you know
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and Holmes, along the way,
he's planning his schemes
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and cons in St. Louis.
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- [Amaryllis] And he's using
a different name in each
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of these towns?
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- Everywhere he
goes, everywhere.
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Sometimes numerous names
in one city or state.
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- It's really helpful to me
in putting the Holmes pieces
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together in this
investigation to understand
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how comfortable he was traveling
and not just traveling,
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but using aliases, committing
crimes, committing murder,
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far away from home,
and of course,
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if Holmes is going to
be Jack the Ripper,
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he needs to be the kind of
killer who is comfortable
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going on the road to kill and
it's pretty clear that he is.
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H. H. Holmes is closely
associated with Chicago,
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but we're learning that he
was someone smart enough
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to move frequently from city
to city to evade the law,
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much like Jack the Ripper,
whom Scotland Yard believes
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may have left London in 1888,
and possibly continued killing
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in the United States.
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- [Jeff] So John, where
does Holmes go next?
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- He goes to Philadelphia,
Pennsylvania.
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Holmes had planned this
life insurance policy scam
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to take out a life
insurance policy on Pitezel.
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- Do you recall what the
value of the policy was?
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- $10,000.
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So, Holmes said, you know what?
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We split the money, five grand
for you, five grand for me,
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everyone's happy,
but strangely enough,
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that's the actual beginning
of the end for H. H. Holmes.
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- What this investigation
needs more than anything else
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is physical evidence.
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But with Holmes taking his
murder spree
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all over the country,
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he's creating more sites
that we can potentially mine
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for exactly that.
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Since the murder castle
isn't open to us right now,
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I wanna look into some
of Holmes' later crimes,
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to see if there'sanythinh
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in other cities Holmes visited,
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because we can be sure he
was killing all over the map.
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It's a lot for us to take in.
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We need to follow Holmes'
lead, and get to Philadelphia.
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- [Jeff] I agree.
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- [Narrator] After
leaving Fort Worth,
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Holmes spends four months on
the road to escape capture,
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pulling off scams in Denver
and St. Louis along the way,
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and arrives in Philadelphia
in August, 1894.
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- So we left off
Holmes' trail last
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when he was on his way
here to Philadelphia.
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Could you tell us what
happened once he got here?
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- [Narrator] Jeff and
Amaryllis pick up the trail
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at the Philadelphia
city archives,
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where they've gained
rare access to records
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from the plot that leads
to Holmes' final downfall.
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- So on, or about,
September 1st of 1894,
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Holmes and Pitezel set
up a phony patent office,
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which was really a
minor scam, in scope,
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compared to the real
reason why they were here,
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which was the life
insurance scheme.
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They were essentially
partners in crime.
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- [Narrator] Holmes is no
stranger to insurance fraud.
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The plan is to take a
life insurance policy
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out in Benjamin Pitezel's name
and submit a stolen cadaver
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in his place.
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Holmes will identify
the body as Pitezel
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to the insurance company,
collect on the policy,
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and share the money
with his right-hand man.
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Although he has seen
Holmes' true character,
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Pitezel trusts him nonetheless.
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- [James] And if you look,
this is the original document
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that formed the basis for
the life insurance scam.
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- [Amaryllis] That's incredible.
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- If you look here,
you can see that
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here is Benjamin F. Pitezel's
name, insuring his life
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for the amount of $10,000.
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But within a week, Holmes
had murdered Pitezel.
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- Amazing.
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He had seen Holmes
turn on people before,
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he obviously believed Holmes
would never betray him
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in that way.
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- [James] Yes.
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- It's really meaningful
to see his signature there,
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because he didn't realize he
was signing away his life.
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- [Narrator] Holmes renders
Benjamin Pitezel unconscious
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with a blow to the head,
then pumps his stomach full
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of flammable chloroform
and burns the body,
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to make the murder
look like an accident.
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He then cashes in the $10,000
life insurance policy,
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which he promises to split
with the Pitezel family,
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00:17:03,690 --> 00:17:06,593
who believe that Holmes
uses a stranger's corpse
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00:17:06,626 --> 00:17:11,164
in place of Benjamin Pitezel
in order to secure the payout.
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00:17:11,198 --> 00:17:13,366
- And it's your opinion
that the wife took part
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00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:14,467
in the scheme?
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00:17:15,702 --> 00:17:19,072
- I don't believe she
knew that Holmes planned
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to kill her husband.
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00:17:21,374 --> 00:17:23,310
From what we know
from our documents,
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she always believed,
like her husband did,
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that this was essentially
one of their scams,
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not unlike many others
that they had pulled
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and that they really were
just all going to make off
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with the money.
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And if you look closely
here, you can see
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that the beneficiary of the
policy was Pitezel's wife,
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Carrie A. Pitezel, who was
to receive the proceeds
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in the event of her
husband's death.
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00:17:48,801 --> 00:17:52,439
But what we know is that Holmes
had an entirely different
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idea in mind.
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- So Holmes killed the
only man he trusted,
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the one who helped him
build the murder castle,
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and cover his tracks.
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00:18:05,585 --> 00:18:07,354
- Well yeah, I mean, it's
in line with what we've seen
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from Holmes so far.
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00:18:08,788 --> 00:18:11,258
He kills people who
are close to him
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and he can profit
from financially.
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00:18:13,526 --> 00:18:15,662
I mean, look at Minnie Williams.
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00:18:15,695 --> 00:18:17,330
- But after going
to all that trouble,
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do you think he really
intended to split the money
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00:18:19,499 --> 00:18:21,268
with the Pitezel family?
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00:18:21,301 --> 00:18:23,303
- Yeah, that doesn't
seem likely to me.
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You've got five kids
and one grownup standing
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between him and $10,000.
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00:18:28,175 --> 00:18:30,210
Doesn't seem like something
that would stop Holmes.
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00:18:30,243 --> 00:18:32,612
I wonder what happened to the
rest of the Pitezel family?
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00:18:32,645 --> 00:18:34,181
- There's an author
here in Philadelphia,
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who might be able to
help us with that.
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- Great.
441
00:18:41,421 --> 00:18:43,623
- [Narrator] Jeff and
Amaryllis meet with Roger Lane,
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a leading authority
on violent criminals,
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to find out where
Holmes went to next.
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00:18:49,729 --> 00:18:51,464
- One of the things that
enabled Holmes to get away
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00:18:51,498 --> 00:18:53,533
with everything that he did,
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00:18:53,566 --> 00:18:56,736
was that there was
no national FBI.
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00:18:56,769 --> 00:18:58,371
- [Amaryllis] What does
Holmes do after he collects
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the insurance policy
on Benjamin Pitezel?
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00:19:00,773 --> 00:19:03,910
- After he picked up the
money, he told Carrie Pitezel,
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00:19:03,943 --> 00:19:06,879
Benjamin's wife, detectives
are gonna be following you.
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00:19:06,913 --> 00:19:09,949
They'll be looking for
a woman with five kids.
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00:19:09,982 --> 00:19:14,354
He's playing on her paranoia,
and so she put Alice,
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00:19:14,387 --> 00:19:17,757
Nellie, and Howard on
a train to join Holmes.
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00:19:18,958 --> 00:19:20,693
- And how old were
they at the time?
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00:19:20,727 --> 00:19:24,331
- Alice was 15, Nellie
was 11, Howard was 10.
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00:19:26,299 --> 00:19:29,336
- I never understood why
did Holmes want possession
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00:19:29,369 --> 00:19:30,337
of the children?
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00:19:30,370 --> 00:19:32,205
Exactly why?
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00:19:32,239 --> 00:19:35,475
- I think he, from the
beginning, had in mind,
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that he would have to get
rid of the Pitezel family,
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00:19:37,710 --> 00:19:39,246
because Carrie
Pitezel of course knew
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00:19:39,279 --> 00:19:41,514
about this insurance scheme.
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00:19:41,548 --> 00:19:43,883
The only safe thing
for him to do was
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to get rid of the whole
family and he could start
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00:19:46,919 --> 00:19:48,688
with these three kids.
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00:19:57,029 --> 00:19:59,366
Holmes would have to get
rid of the Pitezel family,
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00:19:59,399 --> 00:20:03,270
and he could start
with these three kids.
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00:20:03,303 --> 00:20:05,872
- [Narrator] In September
of 1894, Holmes embarks
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on the next phase
of his master plan,
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to systematically silence any
witness who can expose him
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00:20:11,711 --> 00:20:13,913
as a fraud and a killer.
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00:20:13,946 --> 00:20:18,585
Most urgently, the members
of Benjamin Pitezel's family.
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00:20:18,618 --> 00:20:20,453
- So Howard went first.
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00:20:22,389 --> 00:20:27,026
Howard Pitezel was killed
October 10th, in Irvington,
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which is a suburb
of Indianapolis.
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- [Amaryllis] Do we know
what the cause of death was?
477
00:20:30,863 --> 00:20:33,733
- Later on, in a confession,
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Holmes said that he had
poisoned, then strangled him,
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00:20:38,004 --> 00:20:42,008
and then burnt his body
in a stove in the cellar
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of that rented house.
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00:20:44,977 --> 00:20:46,779
They never discovered
the whole of his body.
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- [Amaryllis] Really?
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00:20:48,615 --> 00:20:50,383
- [Roger] I mean, he'd left
enough evidence to make it clear
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00:20:50,417 --> 00:20:53,252
that this was Howard
Pitezel's body.
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00:20:54,787 --> 00:20:58,725
The sisters were murdered
in Toronto, October 25th.
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Holmes gassed the girls
by putting their bodies
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in a big trunk, drilling
a hole in the trunk,
488
00:21:07,667 --> 00:21:12,405
and running illuminating gas
in until they suffocated.
489
00:21:12,439 --> 00:21:15,775
- This would be similar to
carbon monoxide poisoning or--
490
00:21:15,808 --> 00:21:17,344
- [Roger] Yeah.
491
00:21:17,377 --> 00:21:20,980
Or to what happened back
in the castle in Chicago.
492
00:21:24,984 --> 00:21:27,019
- It's your opinion they
knew something he was afraid
493
00:21:27,053 --> 00:21:29,822
of being released
to the authorities?
494
00:21:29,856 --> 00:21:31,524
- Yes.
495
00:21:31,558 --> 00:21:32,625
- But why would he have
taken them across the country
496
00:21:32,659 --> 00:21:34,494
into Canada, what was that?
497
00:21:34,527 --> 00:21:37,397
- Well, part of it may
have been to foil pursuit
498
00:21:37,430 --> 00:21:40,767
by Fidelity investigators,
and maybe it was
499
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,504
for the sheer fun of
manipulating other people.
500
00:21:46,072 --> 00:21:48,741
- There's a great psychic
income for him, I think,
501
00:21:48,775 --> 00:21:51,378
in this sense of
superiority that comes
502
00:21:51,411 --> 00:21:52,445
from the cat and mouse game.
503
00:21:52,479 --> 00:21:53,746
- Who knows?
504
00:21:53,780 --> 00:21:56,916
With a mind like this,
like his, who knows?
505
00:22:08,495 --> 00:22:10,129
- This is the first time
in our investigation
506
00:22:10,162 --> 00:22:12,499
where we might find
evidence of a Holmes murder,
507
00:22:12,532 --> 00:22:14,901
that we can actually examine.
508
00:22:14,934 --> 00:22:17,870
- When we're trying to
take two sets of crimes
509
00:22:17,904 --> 00:22:19,839
and attribute them
to the same killer,
510
00:22:19,872 --> 00:22:21,774
really the only
way to do that is
511
00:22:21,808 --> 00:22:23,810
to actually find
physical evidence
512
00:22:23,843 --> 00:22:27,447
that link the two
crime scenes, or say,
513
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,417
that the map of the
killings is so similar
514
00:22:30,450 --> 00:22:33,052
that they're either the same
killer or a copycat killer.
515
00:22:33,085 --> 00:22:35,422
We can't do either
of those things,
516
00:22:35,455 --> 00:22:38,024
if we can't find some
physical evidence,
517
00:22:38,057 --> 00:22:42,662
some remains of at least one
victim from H. H. Holmes.
518
00:22:42,695 --> 00:22:46,466
And the man's sheer genius in
premeditation, as a killer,
519
00:22:46,499 --> 00:22:48,835
has thwarted us up until now.
520
00:22:49,969 --> 00:22:51,871
These later killings
in his career seem
521
00:22:51,904 --> 00:22:55,742
to be less premeditated
than what he was undertaking
522
00:22:55,775 --> 00:22:58,478
at the murder castle.
523
00:22:58,511 --> 00:23:01,180
Ben Pitezel, the crime
scene was cleaned up.
524
00:23:01,213 --> 00:23:03,015
We've learned what
we had to learn.
525
00:23:03,049 --> 00:23:05,652
The girls in Toronto were found.
526
00:23:06,719 --> 00:23:08,154
Howard is different.
527
00:23:09,889 --> 00:23:12,191
I'd like to learn more about
the Howard Pitezel murder.
528
00:23:12,224 --> 00:23:16,128
It seems to me the least
investigated at the time.
529
00:23:17,530 --> 00:23:19,532
- [Jeff] No one
ever looked into it.
530
00:23:19,566 --> 00:23:20,733
- We know that the
murder was conducted
531
00:23:20,767 --> 00:23:22,669
at this scene, right?
532
00:23:22,702 --> 00:23:24,537
Part of the body was
discovered there.
533
00:23:24,571 --> 00:23:28,140
Howard's murder is the
first killing ground
534
00:23:28,174 --> 00:23:31,611
where we could actually
find remains to link him
535
00:23:31,644 --> 00:23:33,613
to Jack the Ripper.
536
00:23:33,646 --> 00:23:35,948
Based on all the crime
scenes that we've looked at,
537
00:23:35,982 --> 00:23:38,718
Irvington, Indiana is the most
likely to give us something
538
00:23:38,751 --> 00:23:40,853
that we can actually put
through forensic analysis
539
00:23:40,887 --> 00:23:42,054
and come up with an answer.
540
00:23:42,088 --> 00:23:43,122
- Let's do it.
541
00:23:50,062 --> 00:23:53,600
- One of the thoughts of why
Holmes picked Irvington is
542
00:23:53,633 --> 00:23:55,735
that strangers were accepted,
543
00:23:55,768 --> 00:23:59,005
and also it was a
remote location.
544
00:23:59,038 --> 00:24:00,673
- [Narrator] In
Irvington, Indiana,
545
00:24:00,707 --> 00:24:03,543
mere miles from the location
of Howard Pitezel's murder,
546
00:24:03,576 --> 00:24:05,812
Jeff and Amaryllis meet
with local historian,
547
00:24:05,845 --> 00:24:08,180
Steve Barnett, to dig
deeper into the details
548
00:24:08,214 --> 00:24:11,017
of the horrific crime.
549
00:24:11,050 --> 00:24:14,887
- In the late summer of
1894, Holmes came to Indiana
550
00:24:14,921 --> 00:24:18,625
with Howard and found
a house to rent,
551
00:24:18,658 --> 00:24:21,761
that was on the edge, really,
of the developed area.
552
00:24:21,794 --> 00:24:23,029
- What's your understanding
of how many days
553
00:24:23,062 --> 00:24:25,965
Holmes was in Irvington
to commit the crime?
554
00:24:25,998 --> 00:24:28,835
- He rented the house
on October the 5th,
555
00:24:28,868 --> 00:24:32,238
which was a Friday, and stayed
until October 10th and left.
556
00:24:32,271 --> 00:24:35,007
Also, there's some other members
of the historical society
557
00:24:35,041 --> 00:24:39,011
that have materials that
were left here in Irvington.
558
00:24:39,045 --> 00:24:40,580
- [Amaryllis] Materials
that Holmes left behind?
559
00:24:40,613 --> 00:24:42,114
- [Steve] Yes.
560
00:24:42,148 --> 00:24:44,784
- If Holmes did leave
possessions or personal items
561
00:24:44,817 --> 00:24:46,252
behind during his stay in
Irvington,
562
00:24:46,285 --> 00:24:48,555
they could be crucial
to our investigation.
563
00:24:48,588 --> 00:24:49,822
We definitely need
to track them down,
564
00:24:49,856 --> 00:24:53,025
after we investigate the
scene of Howard's murder.
565
00:24:53,059 --> 00:24:55,595
What reason did he give
for coming to Irvington?
566
00:24:55,628 --> 00:24:58,130
- He rented the house, saying
he was setting the house
567
00:24:58,164 --> 00:25:01,868
up for his sister, who
was coming to town.
568
00:25:01,901 --> 00:25:05,605
Then he ordered this huge
stove to be installed.
569
00:25:05,638 --> 00:25:07,774
It was a wood-burning stove
and there was one report
570
00:25:07,807 --> 00:25:09,576
that someone commented,
571
00:25:09,609 --> 00:25:10,810
what are you getting
that big stove for?
572
00:25:10,843 --> 00:25:12,912
We have gas out here now.
573
00:25:12,945 --> 00:25:16,215
And he said well, gas
is not good for kids.
574
00:25:18,050 --> 00:25:20,186
- He meant gas is not good
for cremating the remains
575
00:25:20,219 --> 00:25:21,253
of kids.
- Yes.
576
00:25:23,122 --> 00:25:24,624
- [Amaryllis] When
was Howard found?
577
00:25:24,657 --> 00:25:27,326
- After he completed the
deed, in October of 1894,
578
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,129
it wasn't til almost a year
later, the detectives found,
579
00:25:30,162 --> 00:25:33,600
essentially, Howard's
mummified entrails.
580
00:25:33,633 --> 00:25:34,767
- His organs?
581
00:25:34,801 --> 00:25:35,968
- His organs, yes.
582
00:25:36,002 --> 00:25:37,737
- So he'd been disemboweled?
583
00:25:37,770 --> 00:25:39,238
- He had, yes.
584
00:25:39,271 --> 00:25:42,675
- This isn't the Holmes we
thought we knew in Chicago.
585
00:25:42,709 --> 00:25:45,912
This is much more of
a Ripper-type murder.
586
00:25:52,819 --> 00:25:55,688
of
a Ripper-type murder,
587
00:25:55,722 --> 00:25:58,224
and the haphazard way
he left the body behind
588
00:25:58,257 --> 00:26:01,260
and simply left the
scene of the crime.
589
00:26:01,293 --> 00:26:03,730
- [Narrator] Investigating
the murder of Howard Pitezel,
590
00:26:03,763 --> 00:26:06,833
Jeff and Amaryllis uncover
a big break in the case.
591
00:26:06,866 --> 00:26:09,669
A possible link
between a Holmes victim
592
00:26:09,702 --> 00:26:12,171
and the Jack the
Ripper killings.
593
00:26:12,204 --> 00:26:14,941
Reports from the time indicate
that the 10-year-old victim
594
00:26:14,974 --> 00:26:18,945
is first rendered unconscious
and then disemboweled,
595
00:26:20,179 --> 00:26:24,651
a method that closely mirrors
the Ripper's deadly technique.
596
00:26:24,684 --> 00:26:25,618
- [Amaryllis] We know that
detectives at the time
597
00:26:25,652 --> 00:26:27,920
never found the entirety
of Howard's remains.
598
00:26:27,954 --> 00:26:29,889
Do you know which
parts were missing?
599
00:26:29,922 --> 00:26:31,758
- [Steve] The detectives
found other bone fragments
600
00:26:31,791 --> 00:26:33,960
in the yard and elsewhere.
601
00:26:33,993 --> 00:26:35,227
- [Amaryllis] Just scattered?
602
00:26:35,261 --> 00:26:36,663
- [Steve] Yes.
603
00:26:36,696 --> 00:26:39,198
You might want to
look at this account.
604
00:26:39,231 --> 00:26:41,133
- Newspapers at the time
report that the only parts
605
00:26:41,167 --> 00:26:42,935
of Howard's body
that were recovered
606
00:26:42,969 --> 00:26:46,005
were his skull,
femur, and cheekbone,
607
00:26:46,038 --> 00:26:48,741
along with his stomach,
liver, and spleen.
608
00:26:48,775 --> 00:26:51,343
That's a lot of Howard's body
that's still unaccounted for.
609
00:26:51,377 --> 00:26:53,412
- I don't know what
more horrifying image
610
00:26:53,445 --> 00:26:55,848
you could possibly have.
611
00:26:55,882 --> 00:26:58,918
- There's a report that,
on Howard's last day,
612
00:26:58,951 --> 00:27:02,154
Holmes went with Howard actually
down to a knife-sharpener
613
00:27:02,188 --> 00:27:06,192
in downtown Indianapolis to
have instruments sharpened,
614
00:27:06,225 --> 00:27:10,763
and even talked about preparing
another surgical instrument.
615
00:27:10,797 --> 00:27:12,298
- Were these surgical knives
that they were talking about?
616
00:27:12,331 --> 00:27:14,233
- Uh, that's my impression, yes.
617
00:27:14,266 --> 00:27:16,368
In fact, there was
one newspaper account
618
00:27:16,402 --> 00:27:19,739
where the proprietor of the
knife-sharpening business
619
00:27:19,772 --> 00:27:22,174
remarked that they would
be desirable weapons
620
00:27:22,208 --> 00:27:23,943
for a Jack the Ripper.
621
00:27:26,946 --> 00:27:28,114
- [Jeff] I think we need
to check out the site
622
00:27:28,147 --> 00:27:30,149
where Howard was murdered.
623
00:27:38,791 --> 00:27:41,160
- It's so amazing to be
standing here on this ground
624
00:27:41,193 --> 00:27:43,462
and realize that this
is the same ground
625
00:27:43,495 --> 00:27:46,966
where all those bone
fragments of Howard Pitezel
626
00:27:46,999 --> 00:27:48,167
were discovered.
627
00:27:50,002 --> 00:27:52,739
- Right, this was a
totally open space except
628
00:27:52,772 --> 00:27:55,775
for the house that
Holmes had rented.
629
00:27:55,808 --> 00:27:59,478
The house itself was
a very simple cottage.
630
00:27:59,511 --> 00:28:01,748
It had been built in
1891 so it was only
631
00:28:01,781 --> 00:28:05,351
about three or four years old
at the time Holmes rented it.
632
00:28:05,384 --> 00:28:09,088
But we know that he scattered
the bones around the yard,
633
00:28:09,121 --> 00:28:13,192
and I have a homeowner that
might be of interest to you,
634
00:28:13,225 --> 00:28:14,493
so let's walk around the corner.
635
00:28:14,526 --> 00:28:15,261
- [Jeff] Sounds
like a good idea.
636
00:28:15,294 --> 00:28:17,396
- Lead the way.
637
00:28:17,429 --> 00:28:19,498
- [Narrator] The cottage Holmes
rents for five fateful days
638
00:28:19,531 --> 00:28:23,035
in 1894 sits on a
large plot of land
639
00:28:23,069 --> 00:28:26,372
that has since been subdivided
into multiple properties.
640
00:28:26,405 --> 00:28:29,175
The original house
no longer exists,
641
00:28:29,208 --> 00:28:33,479
but a new home occupies
the majority of the lot.
642
00:28:33,512 --> 00:28:36,148
- This was part of
a larger estate,
643
00:28:36,182 --> 00:28:38,818
kind of accompanying
the neighboring houses,
644
00:28:38,851 --> 00:28:40,853
going back in this direction,
645
00:28:40,887 --> 00:28:43,122
which made up the
home's property.
646
00:28:43,155 --> 00:28:44,924
- And as far as you
know, has the ground here
647
00:28:44,957 --> 00:28:46,392
ever been excavated?
648
00:28:46,425 --> 00:28:49,395
- No, not to my
knowledge, not at all.
649
00:28:49,428 --> 00:28:50,229
- [Jeff] I think it
certainly warrants
650
00:28:50,262 --> 00:28:52,264
further investigation.
651
00:28:52,298 --> 00:28:54,200
- Federal investigations
sometimes rely
652
00:28:54,233 --> 00:28:57,036
on forensic K-9 units that are
trained to identify the area
653
00:28:57,069 --> 00:28:59,338
of old human remains.
654
00:28:59,371 --> 00:29:01,440
I'm thinking this might be a
good resource to tap into here
655
00:29:01,473 --> 00:29:03,976
because we'll need to
identify an excavation area
656
00:29:04,010 --> 00:29:06,078
before we can bring in a team.
657
00:29:06,112 --> 00:29:08,180
Do you think it's possible for
us to come back another day
658
00:29:08,214 --> 00:29:10,182
with more resources
and do it properly?
659
00:29:10,216 --> 00:29:12,418
- Absolutely, that'd be fine.
660
00:29:17,890 --> 00:29:20,226
- My ideas about Holmes
being Jack the Ripper
661
00:29:20,259 --> 00:29:23,095
are discredited because
people say Holmes didn't kill
662
00:29:23,129 --> 00:29:25,031
like the Ripper.
663
00:29:25,064 --> 00:29:27,066
If we can find direct evidence,
664
00:29:27,099 --> 00:29:30,302
we have a chance to
connect those MOs.
665
00:29:30,336 --> 00:29:31,503
- [Narrator] Jeff
and Amaryllis consult
666
00:29:31,537 --> 00:29:33,439
with Dr. Page Selinsky,
667
00:29:33,472 --> 00:29:35,975
a leading biological
anthropologist
668
00:29:36,008 --> 00:29:39,378
to learn whether
130-year-old skeletal remains
669
00:29:39,411 --> 00:29:41,380
could contain the
evidence they need
670
00:29:41,413 --> 00:29:45,317
to forensically evaluate
Holmes' killing method.
671
00:29:45,351 --> 00:29:47,519
- These bones you have
laid out on the table here,
672
00:29:47,553 --> 00:29:52,324
mainly the spine and ribcage.
673
00:29:52,358 --> 00:29:55,527
These bones for Howard Pitezel
have not yet been found.
674
00:29:55,561 --> 00:29:57,964
We know in several of the
Jack the Ripper cases,
675
00:29:57,997 --> 00:30:01,433
that there were actually
knife marks on the vertebrae,
676
00:30:01,467 --> 00:30:03,469
so I'm encouraged that
this is the part of Howard
677
00:30:03,502 --> 00:30:06,338
that has not yet been uncovered.
678
00:30:06,372 --> 00:30:08,340
We know from newspaper reports
that most of Howard's bones
679
00:30:08,374 --> 00:30:09,876
were never recovered.
680
00:30:09,909 --> 00:30:11,377
This could be very important
681
00:30:11,410 --> 00:30:13,612
because the Jack the Ripper
autopsy reports specifically
682
00:30:13,645 --> 00:30:15,982
mention marks made on bones.
683
00:30:16,015 --> 00:30:17,917
If we could recover the
bones from a Holmes victim,
684
00:30:17,950 --> 00:30:20,286
it would be a major
breakthrough for this case.
685
00:30:20,319 --> 00:30:23,122
When comparing two killers,
the method of killing is
686
00:30:23,155 --> 00:30:26,158
a really important
piece of information.
687
00:30:26,192 --> 00:30:29,495
We know from the experts that
we've spoken to in London
688
00:30:29,528 --> 00:30:33,933
that the murder weapon used
by Jack was a surgical knife,
689
00:30:33,966 --> 00:30:37,103
such as this, which are
not serrated at all,
690
00:30:37,136 --> 00:30:40,406
and we know that when Holmes
was here, he had such a set
691
00:30:40,439 --> 00:30:44,310
and actually took them to be
sharpened while he was in town.
692
00:30:47,279 --> 00:30:49,315
Could you walk us through
what we'd be looking for
693
00:30:49,348 --> 00:30:52,451
in identifying
the murder weapon,
694
00:30:52,484 --> 00:30:54,653
based on the marks on the bone?
695
00:30:54,686 --> 00:30:56,488
- In this case here, I can
show you wt a knife wound
696
00:30:56,522 --> 00:30:59,558
would look like on the rib
of a young adult female,
697
00:30:59,591 --> 00:31:03,996
and you can see that there
is a very clean-cut edge
698
00:31:04,030 --> 00:31:04,964
and it will match up
perfectly with the other side
699
00:31:04,997 --> 00:31:06,465
of that rib.
700
00:31:06,498 --> 00:31:10,269
- Now, if we were only to
recover one of these pieces,
701
00:31:10,302 --> 00:31:11,603
would you be able to
tell what the weapon was
702
00:31:11,637 --> 00:31:13,973
that was used to make the cut?
703
00:31:14,006 --> 00:31:16,242
- Well, you can see here we
have some comparative samples
704
00:31:16,275 --> 00:31:18,344
for a saw versus a knife,
705
00:31:18,377 --> 00:31:19,611
and you can see what
a saw mark looks like
706
00:31:19,645 --> 00:31:21,047
on the end of the bone.
707
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,048
You can see a little
bit of the saw marks
708
00:31:22,081 --> 00:31:24,316
on the bone itself.
709
00:31:24,350 --> 00:31:27,253
The knife is gonna leave a
very thin, clean cut there.
710
00:31:27,286 --> 00:31:29,121
- Finding a bone that's been
cut with a serrated blade
711
00:31:29,155 --> 00:31:30,256
would conflict with what we know
712
00:31:30,289 --> 00:31:31,690
about the Ripper's killings.
713
00:31:31,723 --> 00:31:35,261
If we find a bone where
we're able to identify
714
00:31:35,294 --> 00:31:37,163
a surgical knife has been used,
715
00:31:37,196 --> 00:31:39,465
in a way that's more
consistent with disemboweling,
716
00:31:39,498 --> 00:31:41,400
then the manner of killing
begins to look a lot more
717
00:31:41,433 --> 00:31:44,203
like Jack the Ripper's
investigation.
718
00:31:44,236 --> 00:31:47,139
- What about if, while the
cut was being made, Page,
719
00:31:47,173 --> 00:31:48,707
the victim was struggling?
720
00:31:48,740 --> 00:31:50,509
Because Jack the Ripper
dissected his victims
721
00:31:50,542 --> 00:31:53,312
after they were unconscious.
722
00:31:53,345 --> 00:31:55,247
- I mean, that's gonna affect
many things about the cut,
723
00:31:55,281 --> 00:31:57,249
including the cut itself and
whether you're gonna have
724
00:31:57,283 --> 00:32:00,386
sort of false cuts, instead
of a clean cut, so yes.
725
00:32:00,419 --> 00:32:03,155
So, if you have very clean,
single incident sorts of cuts,
726
00:32:03,189 --> 00:32:05,024
it's more likely that the
victim was not struggling
727
00:32:05,057 --> 00:32:06,959
during the process.
728
00:32:06,993 --> 00:32:09,361
- I'm hopeful, based
on what you've told us,
729
00:32:09,395 --> 00:32:12,298
that if we are able to find
any of Howard's remains,
730
00:32:12,331 --> 00:32:14,466
they may be able to
shed light on the manner
731
00:32:14,500 --> 00:32:16,335
in which he was killed.
732
00:32:16,368 --> 00:32:18,004
- Which may help us connect
733
00:32:18,037 --> 00:32:21,107
that Holmes murder
of Howard Pitezel,
734
00:32:21,140 --> 00:32:23,976
with the Ripper
Whitechapel murders.
735
00:32:29,115 --> 00:32:30,582
Zuma is her name?
- Yes.
736
00:32:30,616 --> 00:32:33,685
She's a historical human
remains detection dog.
737
00:32:33,719 --> 00:32:35,587
- [Narrator] Jeff
and Amaryllis enlist
738
00:32:35,621 --> 00:32:37,423
a canine recovery team
to survey the site
739
00:32:37,456 --> 00:32:40,759
for any sign of human remains.
740
00:32:40,792 --> 00:32:43,229
- What she'll do is she'll
grid the area really tight,
741
00:32:43,262 --> 00:32:46,198
and try to find the source.
742
00:32:46,232 --> 00:32:48,300
- This is the coldest
case I've worked.
743
00:32:48,334 --> 00:32:52,271
Can Zuma smell remains
that are 125 years old?
744
00:32:52,304 --> 00:32:54,640
- Yes, we do a lot
of that kind of work.
745
00:32:54,673 --> 00:32:56,475
We assist archeologists.
746
00:32:56,508 --> 00:32:59,578
We train them to find
the older remains.
747
00:33:01,347 --> 00:33:04,550
- So what are we looking for
as an indicator from Zuma
748
00:33:04,583 --> 00:33:06,418
that she's found something?
749
00:33:06,452 --> 00:33:08,554
- She'll definitely
slow her pace,
750
00:33:08,587 --> 00:33:11,257
and she'll begin to sniff the
area a little more detailed,
751
00:33:11,290 --> 00:33:12,224
and then she'll lay down.
752
00:33:12,258 --> 00:33:13,659
- She'll lay down.
753
00:33:13,692 --> 00:33:17,163
All right, Zuma, you wanna
find something for us?
754
00:33:17,196 --> 00:33:20,166
- [Handler] You ready,
come on, let's get to work.
755
00:33:20,199 --> 00:33:21,533
- Knowing that even the smallest
fragment of bone could help
756
00:33:21,567 --> 00:33:24,070
shed light on Holmes'
killing style,
757
00:33:24,103 --> 00:33:25,737
we need to explore the
entire plot of land
758
00:33:25,771 --> 00:33:29,341
where Howard's body
was found in 1895.
759
00:33:29,375 --> 00:33:31,677
- [Handler] Very
nice, good girl, easy.
760
00:33:31,710 --> 00:33:33,212
Turn.
761
00:33:33,245 --> 00:33:34,046
Good.
762
00:33:35,747 --> 00:33:37,283
Easy.
763
00:33:37,316 --> 00:33:38,584
Zu, here.
764
00:33:40,486 --> 00:33:43,089
- [Amaryllis] Is she
showing any interest there?
765
00:33:43,122 --> 00:33:44,623
- [Handler] Zu, turn.
766
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:59,505
- [Jeff] Whoa!
767
00:33:59,538 --> 00:34:00,772
- [Ha- [Jeff] Whoa!ell.
768
00:34:00,806 --> 00:34:02,174
- Is that a hit?
769
00:34:05,577 --> 00:34:06,645
- [Handler] No.
770
00:34:08,414 --> 00:34:09,548
- [Jeff] So what does that mean?
771
00:34:09,581 --> 00:34:11,250
She thought about it
and then backed off?
772
00:34:11,283 --> 00:34:12,084
- Yeah.
773
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,854
If she would have stayed or
if she goes back on her own,
774
00:34:15,887 --> 00:34:17,823
then we know that we
have something there.
775
00:34:17,856 --> 00:34:19,558
- Right, should we take a look
776
00:34:19,591 --> 00:34:20,526
on the other side of the house?
777
00:34:20,559 --> 00:34:22,228
- [Handler] Yes.
778
00:34:22,261 --> 00:34:23,595
- [Narrator] The
highly specialized,
779
00:34:23,629 --> 00:34:26,232
historical human remains
canine team is on the scent
780
00:34:26,265 --> 00:34:29,435
of revealing a
break in the case.
781
00:34:29,468 --> 00:34:30,702
The recovery dog is trained
782
00:34:30,736 --> 00:34:33,672
to identify
centuries-old corpses.
783
00:34:33,705 --> 00:34:35,207
- [Handler] Let's
get back to work.
784
00:34:35,241 --> 00:34:36,508
- [Narrator] A skill that
Jeff and Amaryllis hope
785
00:34:36,542 --> 00:34:38,510
will locate where
Holmes disposed
786
00:34:38,544 --> 00:34:41,247
of the 10-year-old
Howard Pitezel.
787
00:34:44,316 --> 00:34:47,786
- [Jeff] There's no
doubt she's at work.
788
00:34:47,819 --> 00:34:48,720
- [Amaryllis] Well, and for us,
789
00:34:48,754 --> 00:34:49,721
the stakes couldn't be higher,
790
00:34:49,755 --> 00:34:51,857
so I'm hoping she
finds something.
791
00:34:51,890 --> 00:34:53,559
- [Handler] Good job.
792
00:34:56,662 --> 00:34:57,463
Good.
793
00:35:02,301 --> 00:35:03,835
Get to work.
794
00:35:03,869 --> 00:35:06,772
(suspenseful music)
795
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,682
- Whoa, she's sitting down.
796
00:35:16,715 --> 00:35:17,683
- Is that it?
797
00:35:17,716 --> 00:35:18,550
Is that it?
798
00:35:22,488 --> 00:35:26,225
I believe that there is
possibly something in this area.
799
00:35:26,258 --> 00:35:30,829
- So Zuma pinged on old
human remains in this area?
800
00:35:30,862 --> 00:35:32,164
- Yes.
801
00:35:32,198 --> 00:35:34,633
It seems to be a
good place to look.
802
00:35:34,666 --> 00:35:38,804
- This could possibly be the
spot that Holmes buried part
803
00:35:38,837 --> 00:35:40,406
of Howard Pitezel?
804
00:35:40,439 --> 00:35:41,607
- [Handler] Yes.
805
00:35:43,775 --> 00:35:46,245
- That's an enormous
breakthrough.
806
00:35:46,278 --> 00:35:48,680
For the entire Holmes
trail that we've been on,
807
00:35:48,714 --> 00:35:52,751
we have never before had
access to physical evidence,
808
00:35:52,784 --> 00:35:56,422
let alone the remains of
a victim of H. H. Holmes,
809
00:35:56,455 --> 00:35:58,524
anywhere in this investigation.
810
00:35:58,557 --> 00:36:03,362
We have to handle
this incredibly carefully,
811
00:36:03,395 --> 00:36:05,664
I mean, this is a crime scene.
812
00:36:08,667 --> 00:36:09,968
The likelihood,
given that we know
813
00:36:10,001 --> 00:36:13,972
that Howard's remains were
found on that property,
814
00:36:14,005 --> 00:36:17,343
is that, somewhere
under that ground,
815
00:36:17,376 --> 00:36:21,347
is at least some other part
of 10-year-old Howard Pitezel,
816
00:36:21,380 --> 00:36:24,950
a real human boy who was
killed by H. H. Holmes.
817
00:36:33,259 --> 00:36:37,829
- Looking at Howard's picture
here now, it's emotional.
818
00:36:37,863 --> 00:36:41,300
- I'm really sorry that
this child lay in the ground
819
00:36:41,333 --> 00:36:44,503
for a hundred years, but it
may not have been in vain,
820
00:36:44,536 --> 00:36:46,538
because he may end up
being the breadcrumbs
821
00:36:46,572 --> 00:36:49,375
back through history
that actually allow us
822
00:36:49,408 --> 00:36:51,377
to put this case to rest.
823
00:36:52,744 --> 00:36:53,945
Think about the number of times,
824
00:36:53,979 --> 00:36:55,647
as we've gone through
this investigation,
825
00:36:55,681 --> 00:36:59,385
that we've been frustrated
at how the forensic scene was
826
00:36:59,418 --> 00:37:01,487
bungled by investigators
at the time
827
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,656
and it's really our
responsibility to Howard
828
00:37:04,690 --> 00:37:07,393
to make sure that we don't
do the same thing here.
829
00:37:07,426 --> 00:37:09,328
- Well, I've got to
tell you, after today,
830
00:37:09,361 --> 00:37:11,830
I'm ready to take the next step.
831
00:37:11,863 --> 00:37:13,365
What's the proper move?
832
00:37:13,399 --> 00:37:15,301
- I'd like to make
a few phone calls
833
00:37:15,334 --> 00:37:17,769
and see what components
we need from archeology
834
00:37:17,803 --> 00:37:21,473
and academia to make sure
that we do this right,
835
00:37:21,507 --> 00:37:24,710
'cause we really only
have one shot at it.
836
00:37:32,384 --> 00:37:33,752
- [Narrator] Four months
into their investigation
837
00:37:33,785 --> 00:37:35,954
of the historic
unsolved mystery,
838
00:37:35,987 --> 00:37:37,789
Jeff and Amaryllis
are closer than ever
839
00:37:37,823 --> 00:37:39,925
to unearthing the evidence
they need to prove
840
00:37:39,958 --> 00:37:43,862
that Jeff's ancestor, H. H.
Holmes, was Jack the Ripper.
841
00:37:45,664 --> 00:37:47,966
- We're going to place
our one-by-one test unit,
842
00:37:47,999 --> 00:37:50,536
and very carefully dig down,
centimeter by centimeter,
843
00:37:50,569 --> 00:37:52,571
looking for human remains.
844
00:37:52,604 --> 00:37:54,906
See if we can find
what's left of Howard.
845
00:37:54,940 --> 00:37:55,874
- [Narrator] They've
secured the assistance
846
00:37:55,907 --> 00:37:58,610
of an archeological
team to properly recover
847
00:37:58,644 --> 00:38:02,548
any skeletal remains of
Holmes' victim, Howard Pitezel.
848
00:38:03,749 --> 00:38:05,050
- It really feels
like we're giving this
849
00:38:05,083 --> 00:38:07,719
the first thorough
investigation it's received
850
00:38:07,753 --> 00:38:10,055
a hundred years after the fact.
851
00:38:10,088 --> 00:38:11,857
- Better late than never.
852
00:38:11,890 --> 00:38:13,024
Let's go to it.
853
00:38:17,996 --> 00:38:20,799
- Yeah, so you're being
careful to just grab the sod?
854
00:38:20,832 --> 00:38:22,668
- [Archeogist] Right.
855
00:38:26,672 --> 00:38:29,408
We just did the first sift.
- Yeah.
856
00:38:30,776 --> 00:38:32,778
- Now, how deep are we now, Amy?
857
00:38:32,811 --> 00:38:35,113
- Roughly four or
five centimeters.
858
00:38:35,146 --> 00:38:37,583
We're gonna keep going until
we hit that sterile subsoil.
859
00:38:37,616 --> 00:38:38,784
You can see we're still
in the really dark.
860
00:38:38,817 --> 00:38:40,419
- [Jeff] Yeah.
861
00:38:40,452 --> 00:38:41,620
- There is a color change
that we'll be able to see
862
00:38:41,653 --> 00:38:43,389
when I've hit that subsoil.
863
00:38:43,422 --> 00:38:45,657
We won't be digging
into the subsoil
864
00:38:45,691 --> 00:38:48,527
because we know he wasn't
burying remains on the site,
865
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,630
he was scattering
them on the surface,
866
00:38:51,663 --> 00:38:54,700
and materials don't typically
move down into the subsoil
867
00:38:54,733 --> 00:38:56,735
so if there are materials
here, or remains,
868
00:38:56,768 --> 00:38:59,905
they're gonna be up in the
upper layers of the soil.
869
00:38:59,938 --> 00:39:02,040
- We learned that, if Holmes
did use surgical knives
870
00:39:02,073 --> 00:39:04,109
to disembowel Howard Pitezel,
871
00:39:04,142 --> 00:39:07,579
then he would have left
recognizable marks on the bones.
872
00:39:07,613 --> 00:39:09,548
And London autopsy reports
on the Ripper victims
873
00:39:09,581 --> 00:39:11,650
cite a specific
pattern on the bone,
874
00:39:11,683 --> 00:39:13,719
so finding even a small part
of Howard's skeleton would be
875
00:39:13,752 --> 00:39:15,987
a big discovery for the case.
876
00:39:20,659 --> 00:39:22,528
What's that right there?
877
00:39:23,695 --> 00:39:25,864
- [Amy] Hang on a second.
878
00:39:25,897 --> 00:39:26,965
It's coal.
879
00:39:26,998 --> 00:39:27,799
- Coal?
880
00:39:29,601 --> 00:39:31,036
That's interesting, since
part of his body was found
881
00:39:31,069 --> 00:39:32,971
in a furnace.
882
00:39:33,004 --> 00:39:36,107
Does this show any signs
of having been burned?
883
00:39:36,141 --> 00:39:38,610
- [Amy] Yes, the shiny
outer coating indicates
884
00:39:38,644 --> 00:39:40,145
that has been burned.
885
00:39:41,780 --> 00:39:43,148
- [Amaryllis] Are there
uses for this kind of coal,
886
00:39:43,181 --> 00:39:46,184
current day, or would you
think this dates to the time?
887
00:39:46,217 --> 00:39:48,487
- I would think that
likely dates to the time.
888
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,657
People these days aren't using
coal like that to heat homes.
889
00:39:51,690 --> 00:39:53,058
- I mean, that's
really interesting,
890
00:39:53,091 --> 00:39:55,727
given that we know
Howard's body was burned
891
00:39:55,761 --> 00:39:57,663
before it was scattered.
892
00:40:00,532 --> 00:40:03,034
- [Amy] Well, here's more coal.
893
00:40:03,068 --> 00:40:05,704
That's like all over in here.
- Yeah.
894
00:40:05,737 --> 00:40:07,639
- [Amy] It's all through
it, there's a lot in here.
895
00:40:07,673 --> 00:40:09,841
- [Amaryllis] There's
a lot of coal in here.
896
00:40:09,875 --> 00:40:11,677
- [Amy] Some here.
897
00:40:11,710 --> 00:40:13,779
- [Amaryllis] You're
also finding coal?
898
00:40:13,812 --> 00:40:16,047
- [Jeff] So now we're talking
about a deposit of coal,
899
00:40:16,081 --> 00:40:17,716
not just a piece of coal?
900
00:40:17,749 --> 00:40:19,818
- Yeah, the guys are finding
it in the sieves as well.
901
00:40:19,851 --> 00:40:22,688
And we found it near
where Zuma pinged
902
00:40:22,721 --> 00:40:24,856
on historical human remains.
903
00:40:27,192 --> 00:40:28,026
- Whoa, whoa, whoa.
904
00:40:28,059 --> 00:40:29,495
Whoa, what?
905
00:40:29,528 --> 00:40:30,662
Check that out.
906
00:40:31,630 --> 00:40:34,232
Well that, is that a coin?
907
00:40:34,265 --> 00:40:36,201
- [Amaryllis] Whatever that
is, it looks period, right?
908
00:40:36,234 --> 00:40:39,638
- [Amy] It looks like
an archeology artifact.
909
00:40:39,671 --> 00:40:40,906
- [Amaryllis] It's
made out of metal.
910
00:40:40,939 --> 00:40:42,874
- [Amy] It is metal.
911
00:40:42,908 --> 00:40:43,942
It's a button.
912
00:40:48,747 --> 00:40:51,550
- For this to have been a
wooded, quiet area at the time,
913
00:40:51,583 --> 00:40:55,153
not a residential area, and
to find coal next to a button,
914
00:40:55,186 --> 00:40:58,624
clearly something
was disposed of here.
915
00:40:58,657 --> 00:41:02,561
Whether it's part of Howard,
think we have to keep digging.
916
00:41:03,629 --> 00:41:04,930
- [Amy] I've got another button.
917
00:41:04,963 --> 00:41:06,031
- Oh, yeah?
918
00:41:06,064 --> 00:41:07,265
Where was that one found?
919
00:41:07,298 --> 00:41:08,800
- [Amy] It came
out of the screen.
920
00:41:08,834 --> 00:41:09,768
- [Amaryllis] Same button?
921
00:41:09,801 --> 00:41:11,002
- [Amy] Almost exact.
922
00:41:11,036 --> 00:41:11,937
- [Amaryllis] Oh, wow.
923
00:41:11,970 --> 00:41:13,271
- Exact.
924
00:41:13,304 --> 00:41:15,507
- So now we're talking
about finding clothing.
925
00:41:15,541 --> 00:41:18,143
I mean, this is a matching set.
926
00:41:18,176 --> 00:41:19,611
Wow, my ...
927
00:41:19,645 --> 00:41:20,846
That's ...
928
00:41:20,879 --> 00:41:21,847
My heart's actually beating.
929
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,615
It's really a finding.
930
00:41:30,689 --> 00:41:33,224
- What's the white
that I'm seeing?
931
00:41:34,325 --> 00:41:36,628
- [Amy] Right there?
932
00:41:36,662 --> 00:41:39,531
(suspenseful music)
933
00:41:42,233 --> 00:41:43,635
That's a bone.
934
00:41:43,669 --> 00:41:45,103
- That's bone?
- Yeah.
935
00:41:45,136 --> 00:41:47,539
- So we found bone?
- Yeah.
936
00:41:47,573 --> 00:41:48,173
- Holy ...
937
00:41:54,045 --> 00:41:56,081
- [Narrator] Next time,
on American Ripper.
938
00:41:56,114 --> 00:41:58,183
- [Archeologist] Oh, oh, Amy.
939
00:41:58,216 --> 00:41:59,150
- We have something?
940
00:41:59,184 --> 00:42:00,686
- Whoa, wait a minute, whoa.
941
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,121
- [Page] They appear most
likely to be rib bone.
942
00:42:03,154 --> 00:42:04,823
- Are you sure?
943
00:42:04,856 --> 00:42:07,693
- [Man] This entire box
is nothing but photos.
944
00:42:07,726 --> 00:42:08,960
- Without even
looking at the back,
945
00:42:08,994 --> 00:42:10,562
I recognize this man.
946
00:42:10,596 --> 00:42:11,897
- Have you ever heard
of the Holmes curse?
947
00:42:11,930 --> 00:42:13,198
- What are we talking about,
948
00:42:13,231 --> 00:42:16,234
like Holmes' ghost
exacting revenge on people?
949
00:42:16,267 --> 00:42:19,605
- I think the Holmes curse
is compelling evidence
950
00:42:19,638 --> 00:42:22,007
that Holmes escaped
his execution.
951
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,842
- Think what?
952
00:42:23,875 --> 00:42:26,044
- He made a confession
that was recorded.
953
00:42:26,077 --> 00:42:27,178
- Of his voice?
954
00:42:27,212 --> 00:42:29,080
- The only way I'm
going to find out
955
00:42:29,114 --> 00:42:32,350
if H. H. Holmes may
actually be Jack the Ripper
956
00:42:32,383 --> 00:42:36,287
is to see what, if anything,
is actually buried here.
957
00:42:36,321 --> 00:42:37,823
- Are you talking about
actually digging up
958
00:42:37,856 --> 00:42:39,625
your great-great-grandfather?
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