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(tense and dramatic theme)
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- In 1888, Britain's
first serial killer,
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Jack the Ripper went on a
killing spree in London.
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(tense and dramatic theme)
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He was never caught.
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But I know who the Ripper is.
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His real name is HH Holmes.
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And he was America's
first serial killer.
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And he is my great,
great grandfather.
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- [Narrator] Previously
on American Ripper.
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- This is the place
that evil man built
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that factory of death.
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- If we want physical
evidence to link
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Ripper and Holmes, there is
a strong chance that it is
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underneath that lot.
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- This is a famous dear
boss letter that is
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the first letter to be
signed Jack the Ripper.
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- The language certainly
looks American.
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- The Ripper
butchered Mary Kelly
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to the point that she
could have in theory been
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an animal carcass.
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- Today, there is
amazing cutting edge
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technology that can create
a composite photograph
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from eyewitness accounts of what
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Jack the Ripper looked like.
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- If you took this
composite to a judge,
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he'd issue a warrant.
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(traffic running)
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(soft music)
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- Wow.
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This is pretty compelling to me.
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You've got Jack on the left,
you've got Holmes on the right.
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- People have been
telling me for years
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that my theory is crazy.
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At times I even began
to doubt myself but now
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I can look into the eyes
of Britain's most notorious
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serial killer and
staring back at me
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is a very familiar face.
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He is obviously 27
years old here, okay,
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if he was in London in 1888.
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The photo here's a police photo
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after his arrest and he
would've been 32 or 33.
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I know that we still
have work to do
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to prove this beyond a
reasonable doubt
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but for the moment,
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I feel vindicated.
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We now have
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an image of a potential suspect.
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We might be talking
about Jack the Ripper.
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HH Holmes.
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(dramatic theme music)
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How foolproof are
these comparisons
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in your experience?
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- The more eyewitness
accounts that you have,
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with the more details involved
the better and better result.
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I am really confident
about how accurate it is.
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We've been able to track
down in the press 13
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eyewitness reports of those
who claim that they've seen
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Jack the Ripper.
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That's an unusually high number.
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It's still not a smoking gun,
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but that composite picture
looks a lot like HH Holmes.
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From what we have learned,
I've been surprised
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that my major objections
are beginning to melt away.
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There is not as dramatic a
difference between these two
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killers as I had thought.
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We know the Ripper
could have been a doctor
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just like Holmes.
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Both killer seem to have
enjoyed the act of dissection
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after they killed their victims.
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- Yeah and the
conclusions the linguists
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had with the dear boss
letter was written,
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in their opinion,
by an American.
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- Yeah, like most investigators,
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when I came here, I
thought Jack the Ripper
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was the quintessential
disorganized killer.
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But as we've heard about his
ability to time the routes
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of law enforcement, and
how his methods evolved
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with each kill, almost like
he's perfecting a process.
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I am beginning to think that
maybe he was of a higher IQ,
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more kind of organized,
just like HH Holmes.
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- I've been convinced
from the day
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I started that it had
to do with gamesmanship.
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Holmes was always staying one
step ahead of law enforcement
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and outsmarting the system.
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- Well, this is not
conclusive evidence but
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with an escalation this
dramatic and this quick
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I would expect to see
the killing continue.
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But the Ripper murders
just stop and we've seen
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Holmes's name, an alias,
show up in ship manifest
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from London to America after
the Whitechapel killings.
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- I would say that
this is the first
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milestone where I am truly
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intrigued by your theory.
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We still have more
investigating to do.
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I want to continue subjecting
letters and artifacts
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to forensic analysis to see
if we can find more links
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between Holmes and the Ripper.
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But what we are still
missing is physical evidence
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from the crime scenes.
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We know no murder
weapon was ever
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recovered here in London.
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So, if Holmes was the Ripper,
whatever physical evidence
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remains may have traveled with
him back across the ocean.
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- Well, it appears that
the trail leads back
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to the States.
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- [Amaryllis] Guess
we're on our way home.
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(dramatic theme music)
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- After everything
we learned in London,
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I'm even more anxious to
excavate under the post office
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where the murder castle stood.
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- You and me both.
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If we're going to find physical
evidence two tie Holmes
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to Ripper, that is
where it's going to be.
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- So, what's the status on that?
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Have you heard anything?
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- Yeah, my colleague
gave me the name
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of someone at the post
office we can talk
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to about getting access.
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I think that as Holmes'
great, great grandson,
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you should try to set
up a meeting with him.
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And in the meantime, we
should pick up Holmes' trail
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where we left off.
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If a gap in his timeline
reflects when he was in London,
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we should be able to
pick his timeline back up
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when he returns to Chicago
in the spring of 1889.
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- Great.
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Our Chicago investigation
into Holmes' paper trail
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revealed a gap in
his whereabouts at
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as the Ripper murders.
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The evidence we found in
London supports the theory
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that Holmes was there when the
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Ripper killings were occurring.
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But to truly connect
the two killers,
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we need to look for any
traces of the Ripper
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and what Holmes did next.
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- [Narrator] In Chicago
in the spring of 1889,
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HH Holmes hires construction
crews to convert his property
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on 63rd and Wallace
into what we now know
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as the Murder Castle.
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His sinister intent was
to build a place to kill
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and dissect his
victims in private.
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- His intentions for this
building were definitely
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for murder and disposing
of human remains.
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- [Narrator] To find answers
about physical evidence
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that might still be
buried at the site,
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Jeff and Amaryllis meet
with a documentarian
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and historian who is an
expert on the Castle.
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- He had ideally
constructed this building
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not only for murder and the
disposal of human bodies
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but for him to enact
his pleasure in privacy
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with these victims.
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- That's an interesting
point to me because
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we are just back from
London and there,
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we were looking at the
Whitechapel murders
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and the fifth Jack the
Ripper victim
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is so much more
mutilated because
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the fifth victim, Mary
Kelly is the only victim
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that was killed in private.
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I have to wonder if this
was kind of a killer
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in his adolescence who
is developing his taste
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and his desires and if
you take that to its
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logical conclusion
as an industrious,
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entrepreneurial psychopath,
creating your own hotel full
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of such private rooms would
be an interesting next step.
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- We've learned that the
1895 police investigation
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of the Murder Castle
wasn't at all thorough.
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So, it's possible the police
missed critical evidence
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that could connect Holmes
to Jack the Ripper.
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And that evidence might still
be buried underground today.
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- It's straight out of the mind
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of Edgar Allen Poe
when you look at this.
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It is definitely not out
of Architectural Digest.
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On the first floor, there
were shops and there was
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a jewelry store, a drug
store on the corner
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and a blacksmith's shop.
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When you go up on the second
floor there were many rooms,
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purposely built to disorient
people and maybe victims
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that got away from him.
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For instance, you walk into
this room which has five doors.
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You would open the door
and it is a brick wall.
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And when he was constructing
the building he would
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repeatedly hire and
fire construction crews
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so no one knew the full layout.
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- [Amaryllis] Wow.
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- if you go up to
the third floor
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that is where Holmes had
rented rooms and these rooms
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these rooms were
lined with asbestos
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to make them sound proof.
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Well, why, because he had gas
lines coming from his office
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which he could gas
people in their sleep.
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It was an odorless, colorless
gas that would slowly
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shut down the victim's
central nervous system.
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This was perfect way to
kill an unsuspecting guest
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with no struggle and
without alerting any
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of the other residents
of the castle.
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Essentially, turning
his office into
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a command center of death.
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- Was there ever any
evidence of a murder
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being committed in the building?
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- No, and that is
how much of an evil
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criminal genius Holmes was.
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He knew how to
cover up everything.
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He had this hidden chute
running from the roof
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to the basement for a
way of quickly disposing
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of the bodies.
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The basement was the
most frightening place
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in the whole building.
Because they found
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quicklime vats down there.
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Holmes may have used these in
conjunction with acid baths
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to dissolve human
flesh and as a chemist
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he would have realized
that a lesser known use
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for quicklime is
to prevent odor.
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This would have been
extremely important if Holmes
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was hoarding body parts in
the Murder Castle basement.
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And supposedly he did
have this crematorium
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that he said was for glass
bending but it was about
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the size of the human body.
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- Hearing that the Murder Castle
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was specifically designed
not just to kill but also
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to destroy evidence is
really discouraging.
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Because evidence is exactly
what we need to definitely
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prove Jeff's theory.
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The good news is if we can
get access to that lawn,
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modern equipment is so advanced
that it may find traces
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of the murders that
Holmes didn't know
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he was leaving behind.
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- Where did these bodies
go, were they burned?
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Were they sold as skeletons?
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Were they buried somewhere?
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They are gone, though,
those people disappeared.
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(dramatic theme music)
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- This is the
industrialization of murder.
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This is the Henry Ford model
of killing human beings.
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You check them in and you
send them to the basement
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and who knows what becomes
of their remains after that.
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- [Narrator] The swindler
and criminal mastermind known
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as HH Holmes is rumored
to have murdered hundreds
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of people inside his
three story murder castle.
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Now, his great, great grandson,
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Jeff Mudgett and ex CIA
operative Amaryllis Fox
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are chasing down leads to
determine if any evidence
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connected to Jack the
Ripper might still be buried
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on the castle grounds.
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- The idea of being
able to actually analyze
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fresh physical evidence that
hasn't been contaminated
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becomes incredibly intriguing.
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- If properly excavated
there is the potential
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for history changing evidence.
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HH Holmes may have slaughtered
hundreds of victims
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in the Murder Castle which
was torn down in the 1930s.
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The government later built
a post office on the plot
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and part of the Murder Castle
basement would have lined up
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exactly with the post
office front lawn.
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- Given that we are
talking about the end
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of the 19th century, it seems
unlikely that a home furnace
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could fully destroy a human
body and if that's the case,
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we're looking at a
potential treasure trove
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of physical evidence
and body parts.
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So I'd like to go check out
what furnaces at the time
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were capable of and
get a sense of whether
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it's reasonable that
there might actually
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be human remains
under that lawn.
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- [Jeff] I'm looking
forward to pleading my case
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at the post office.
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(dramatic theme music)
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Because the Murder Castle
used to stand on grounds
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now owned by the Post Office,
there's more than the usual
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amount of legal
hurdles to overcome
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before they'll let us dig there.
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Finally meeting with someone
with the legal authority
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to make this happen
is a huge step.
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(train horn sounding)
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(generator running)
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- Wow, the heat is
really overwhelming
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when you stand near it.
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- [Narrator] While Jeff meets
with post office officials
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to secure permission to
excavate the Murder Castle site,
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Amaryllis visits a local
crematory to investigate
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whether any human remains
could have survived.
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- Our cremation units
go to 1600 dgrees
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and a normal human body
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takes about two
hours to cremate.
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- [Narrator] Newspaper accounts
describe the murder castle's
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furnace as large enough to
accommodate a human body.
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- We brought some bone
and muscle and flesh
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from a pig and so I was hoping
that we could see whether
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the remains could be entirely
burned up or whether something
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is left over.
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- Alright.
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- [Narrator] Scientists
often substitute pig bones
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for human bones in forensic
research because of their
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similar structure
and bone density.
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Both have comparable
rates of decomposition
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and reactions to
stressors, such as heat.
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(soft dramatic theme)
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- Wow, look at that.
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- Just stand away for a minute.
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- It's different from how
I expected them to look.
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You're still left with very
recognizable human bones
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as the remains.
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I mean this wasn't an efficient
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or successful way of
getting rid of a body.
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- No.
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- It sounds like a
wood burning furnace
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was in the basement of
Holmes' Murder Castle.
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Would that be equivalent
heat to this furnace?
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- No.
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I'd be very surprised
if he could have got
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a wood burning stove
up to 1600 degrees,
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and then held it
consistently for an hour.
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- That would have
been a lot of wood.
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- You'd have to use a lot
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of wood you had.
- That's a lot of wood.
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- He just couldn't put the
body and throw some wood
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on it and leave.
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- So, is the exhaust that
comes from the burning
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of human remains, does it
have a certain odor that
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in a residential environment
would be noticeable?
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- If it didn't have the
equipment that we have today,
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it certainly would.
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- It's a very pungent odor.
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- Well, this is
tremendously helpful to me,
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because it's actually
a very different result
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from what we would
have expected.
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The fact that it would
be incredibly difficult
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to dispose of human
bones by burning them,
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convinces me that an
excavation might allow us
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to find the physical
evidence we need.
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If this was the disposal
process he was trying
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to use, that there would
be fragments remaining.
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(soft dramatic theme)
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(phone ringing from other end)
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Jeff, how did it go?
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- [Jeff] I think it went well.
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We should have an answer
in the next few days.
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- [Amaryllis] That
is great news because
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given what I've learned about
19th century furnaces today,
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we are definitely going to find
evidence under that ground.
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- [Jeff] Great, see you soon.
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(dramatic theme music)
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- What I'd really like now
that we're back is to begin
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to build out Holmes'
timeline starting in 1889.
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- [Adam] Alright.
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- [Narrator] Some speculate
the castle claimed
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as many as 200
lives, but its true
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body count remains unverified.
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- This was boomtown Chicago.
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He saw it as a
chance to make money.
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- [Narrator] Jeff
and Amaryllis connect
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with Chicago
historian, Adam Selzer,
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00:16:08,568 --> 00:16:13,340
to look for clues hidden in
the trail of Holmes' many cons.
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00:16:13,373 --> 00:16:15,375
- Holmes was up to
any number of scams.
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All these furniture companies,
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all these insurance companies.
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We've got the ABC Copier company
that he was borrowing money
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on and never
actually paying back.
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- So, this was a
legitimate company?
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00:16:25,385 --> 00:16:27,154
- It was more or less
a legitimate company,
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he just didn't
legitimately own it.
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They did this over
and over again,
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buying things on credit and
then never paying for it.
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I found at least 60 lawsuits
in Chicago alone that this guy
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ended up in.
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Just all of these scams, this
one is from borrowing money
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to add a third story
to the building
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from a couple of residents.
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Which, unbeknownst to them,
helped to fund the Castle.
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Which he then never paid back.
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This one is about
buying barber shop goods
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to outfit the place which he
also never actually paid back.
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Then he was selling this and
he said it was mineral water
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that he got out of an
artesian well in the basement.
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It is regular tap water.
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- The real amazing
story bout Holmes is not
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the serial killer aspect,
it's the con, it's the fraud.
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It's the man who manipulated
everyone in his life.
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- They were calling him things
like the King of Criminals
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and the arch fiend of the
century before they
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suspected him of
a single murder.
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- When does he go from being
a skilled legal trickster
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and scam artist to
taking human life?
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- [Adam] Well, the
Conners were the first
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of the allegedly murders
that could have taken place
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in the castle.
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That would be Julia
and Pearl Conner.
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- [Amaryllis]
Pearl's the daughter?
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- Pearl is the daughter, yes.
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Julia and her husband had come
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to live in the castle building.
Her husband Ned was working
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in the jewelry department.
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She ended up keeping the books
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and also having an
affair with Holmes.
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- Wow.
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Where was the husband,
was the affair going on
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right under his nose?
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00:17:54,207 --> 00:17:57,344
- For a little while,
yeah, but then he left.
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00:17:57,377 --> 00:17:59,579
- So Adam, why did
he kill the Conners?
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00:17:59,612 --> 00:18:02,415
- Most likely it was because
she just knew too much.
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00:18:02,449 --> 00:18:04,817
She was keeping the books at
the Murder Castle, and Holmes
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00:18:04,851 --> 00:18:06,319
was up to any number of
scams that she might have
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00:18:06,353 --> 00:18:08,221
found out about.
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00:18:08,255 --> 00:18:12,159
Julia and Pearl then disappeared
around Christmas of 1891.
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00:18:14,161 --> 00:18:15,295
- [Amaryllis] Pearl
looks quite young here.
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00:18:15,328 --> 00:18:17,364
- She would have been about
six when she disappeared.
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00:18:17,397 --> 00:18:18,831
- Wow.
407
00:18:18,865 --> 00:18:20,667
What did Holmes say
happened to them?
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00:18:20,700 --> 00:18:22,702
- Holmes was fairly consistent
in saying that Julia
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00:18:22,735 --> 00:18:24,571
died in an abortion.
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00:18:24,604 --> 00:18:28,107
(dramatic and tense theme)
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00:18:29,676 --> 00:18:32,879
Then he had to get
rid of the kid too.
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00:18:32,912 --> 00:18:34,881
Most likely he would have
put Julia and Pearl down
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with the chloroform
and then just going
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00:18:36,583 --> 00:18:38,185
with the chloroform.
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00:18:39,486 --> 00:18:41,321
Now, when they were
digging up the castle
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a few years later, they
started finding bones
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that appeared to a
six year old child.
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00:18:45,792 --> 00:18:47,360
- [Jeff] No kidding.
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00:18:47,394 --> 00:18:48,428
- If the police at
the time found bones
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in the murder castle basement,
it supports the theory
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00:18:50,963 --> 00:18:53,233
that the furnace couldn't
get hot enough to process
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00:18:53,266 --> 00:18:54,601
all these bodies.
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He must have had to dispose
of them in a variety
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of different ways,
including burial.
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00:18:58,905 --> 00:19:01,374
- So if Pearl's body
was buried underground,
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00:19:01,408 --> 00:19:02,909
what did he do with Julia?
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00:19:02,942 --> 00:19:05,778
- While the police were
digging up the castle in 1895,
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they brought in this
supposedly witnessed,
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00:19:07,980 --> 00:19:11,284
they called him the
machinist or a bone rigger?
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00:19:11,318 --> 00:19:13,820
He bought several dead
bodies from HH Holmes to turn
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into skeletons which could then
be sold to medical schools.
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00:19:17,224 --> 00:19:19,359
- [Amaryllis] And one of
those we think was Julia?
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- Presumably, yeah.
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00:19:22,762 --> 00:19:24,864
In one of the descriptions
he says the body looked like
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that of a jackrabbit which
is been skinned by splitting
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00:19:28,435 --> 00:19:30,470
the skin down the base
and rolling it back off
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00:19:30,503 --> 00:19:31,704
the entire body.
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00:19:33,373 --> 00:19:34,407
- Wow.
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00:19:34,441 --> 00:19:38,711
That's not the Holmes I
had been imagining at all.
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00:19:38,745 --> 00:19:42,615
Jeff, that's similar to what
we have seen with Mary Kelly,
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00:19:43,783 --> 00:19:50,823
the fifth Jack
the Ripper victim.
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00:19:50,857 --> 00:19:55,228
- Hearing of a body laid
horizontal and the skin removed
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00:19:55,262 --> 00:19:58,331
and flayed open like a
jackrabbit is pretty striking.
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00:19:58,365 --> 00:20:01,268
Jack the Ripper's victims
were all cut open along
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00:20:01,301 --> 00:20:05,505
the abdomen and splayed in
that exact same fashion.
446
00:20:05,538 --> 00:20:07,907
This makes me wonder if Holmes
could have been conducting
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00:20:07,940 --> 00:20:11,344
the same kind of savage
killings as Jack but because
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00:20:11,378 --> 00:20:13,313
it was in his own hotel,
in his own castle,
449
00:20:13,346 --> 00:20:14,514
it was never really
known to the public.
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00:20:14,547 --> 00:20:15,615
- Yeah.
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00:20:15,648 --> 00:20:17,984
- Especially when you consider
Holmes in the basement.
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00:20:18,017 --> 00:20:20,420
He had complete privacy there.
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00:20:23,523 --> 00:20:24,624
- What I really want
to get my hands on
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00:20:24,657 --> 00:20:26,326
is more physical evidence.
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00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,496
And for that we really need
sites where we know that
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Holmes was active.
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00:20:30,897 --> 00:20:33,300
- He was active all
over the country,
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00:20:33,333 --> 00:20:35,902
he had some scams going
in St. Louis for a while,
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00:20:35,935 --> 00:20:39,839
several months in Fort
Worth, Philadelphia.
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00:20:39,872 --> 00:20:42,509
He went to New
York several times,
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00:20:42,542 --> 00:20:44,677
stayed at the Aster
House, very fancy.
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00:20:44,711 --> 00:20:46,446
Right around 1893.
463
00:20:46,479 --> 00:20:49,782
There was a woman named Mae
Barretts who apparently met
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00:20:49,816 --> 00:20:53,686
HH Holmes, went to work for him
in New York and disappeared.
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00:20:55,322 --> 00:20:57,757
- Well that's interesting.
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00:20:57,790 --> 00:20:59,826
We've been hearing story
after story of victims
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00:20:59,859 --> 00:21:02,329
of Holmes disappearing
in the murder castle.
468
00:21:02,362 --> 00:21:04,063
But knowing that an employee
of Holmes disappeared
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00:21:04,096 --> 00:21:06,833
in New York is an
interesting lead.
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00:21:06,866 --> 00:21:08,368
This may mean that
there are more victims
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00:21:08,401 --> 00:21:10,503
than we originally
thought and potentially
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00:21:10,537 --> 00:21:12,605
more crime scenes.
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00:21:12,639 --> 00:21:15,007
- He covered his tracks really
well when he was in New York.
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00:21:15,041 --> 00:21:16,743
Most of the time he was
traveling around I have
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00:21:16,776 --> 00:21:18,845
a pretty good idea what
he was doing in the city.
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00:21:18,878 --> 00:21:21,381
New York is total
mystery every time.
477
00:21:21,414 --> 00:21:23,316
There is documentation
that he took multiple trips
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between 1889 and 1894.
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00:21:25,785 --> 00:21:28,321
One interesting gap for
me is towards the middle
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of spring of 1891.
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00:21:30,089 --> 00:21:32,925
There is not much data for him
for a couple of weeks there.
482
00:21:32,959 --> 00:21:34,961
- Holmes being unaccounted
for in New York
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00:21:34,994 --> 00:21:37,597
is an interesting thread for me.
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00:21:37,630 --> 00:21:39,632
- I'd like to do some
more research on crimes
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00:21:39,666 --> 00:21:43,403
that were occurring there
that might have a similar MO.
486
00:21:43,436 --> 00:21:46,606
(dramatic theme music)
487
00:21:50,843 --> 00:21:53,380
- Looking through media
clippings and newspaper reports
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00:21:53,413 --> 00:21:54,881
is our best bet to see the
if there's any evidence
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00:21:54,914 --> 00:21:56,949
of similar crimes in New York.
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00:21:56,983 --> 00:21:58,918
- [Narrator] At the
Chicago Public Library,
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00:21:58,951 --> 00:22:01,821
Jeff and Amaryllis access
a database of local media
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00:22:01,854 --> 00:22:04,924
and police reports from
the spring of 1891.
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00:22:04,957 --> 00:22:06,859
They're searching for
any unsolved murders
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00:22:06,893 --> 00:22:10,397
in New York City that could
be the work of HH Holmes.
495
00:22:10,430 --> 00:22:14,367
- This is the first of the
results I found for New York.
496
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Killed and Boiled her.
497
00:22:17,003 --> 00:22:18,805
This is the slaughter
of a little girl.
498
00:22:18,838 --> 00:22:22,975
Holmes had interesting means
of disposing of his victims,
499
00:22:23,009 --> 00:22:25,945
though the MO seems
a little off to me.
500
00:22:25,978 --> 00:22:28,781
This is a multi
victim murder spree.
501
00:22:30,650 --> 00:22:32,885
- [Jeff] That's not really
Holmes' style either.
502
00:22:32,919 --> 00:22:36,889
- Holmes was a sophisticated,
premeditative killer,
503
00:22:36,923 --> 00:22:38,891
who mutilated his victims.
504
00:22:38,925 --> 00:22:41,160
So we're looking for
privately executed killings
505
00:22:41,193 --> 00:22:45,031
where the body appears
to have been dissected.
506
00:22:45,064 --> 00:22:46,032
No link there.
507
00:22:46,065 --> 00:22:46,966
- I agree.
508
00:22:48,601 --> 00:22:50,002
- [Amaryllis] That string of
murders was in fact, solved.
509
00:22:50,036 --> 00:22:51,738
- So we can eliminate
that from our list.
510
00:22:51,771 --> 00:22:52,872
That wasn't Holmes.
511
00:22:52,905 --> 00:22:54,874
- Yeah, this one's interesting.
512
00:22:54,907 --> 00:22:57,510
Choked then mutilated,
513
00:22:57,544 --> 00:23:00,613
body horribly slashed
and disemboweled.
514
00:23:00,647 --> 00:23:04,417
That really doesound more
like Holmes' killing style.
515
00:23:04,451 --> 00:23:07,887
This is 1891, so it's
an appropriate time period
516
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,556
for Holmes to be in New York.
517
00:23:09,589 --> 00:23:11,658
The murder was committed
on the southeast corner
518
00:23:11,691 --> 00:23:15,127
of Catherine and Water Street,
in the East River Hotel.
519
00:23:15,161 --> 00:23:16,262
- Wait a minute.
520
00:23:16,295 --> 00:23:18,665
That's very close to the
Astor House where Holmes liked
521
00:23:18,698 --> 00:23:20,099
to stay when he was
in New York City.
522
00:23:20,132 --> 00:23:20,900
- Oh, really?
523
00:23:20,933 --> 00:23:21,868
- Yes.
524
00:23:21,901 --> 00:23:23,870
- So, her name was Carrie Brown.
525
00:23:23,903 --> 00:23:26,105
The victim was an aged woman.
526
00:23:27,540 --> 00:23:29,108
There were marks
about her throat,
527
00:23:29,141 --> 00:23:31,744
before the mutilations
were performed.
528
00:23:31,778 --> 00:23:34,847
It says on the back
was a mark like an X.
529
00:23:34,881 --> 00:23:36,983
- That's the same as the
fourth ripper murder.
530
00:23:37,016 --> 00:23:40,753
Catherine Eddows,
the X on her cheek.
531
00:23:40,787 --> 00:23:45,024
- This was evidently
the murderer's sign.
532
00:23:45,057 --> 00:23:46,993
Many of the details
recall the crimes with
533
00:23:47,026 --> 00:23:49,962
which Jack the Ripper
horrified London.
534
00:23:52,131 --> 00:23:55,167
The crime remains unsolved.
535
00:23:55,201 --> 00:23:57,136
This is crazy, the police
at the time really thought
536
00:23:57,169 --> 00:24:00,840
this murder was committed
by Jack the Ripper.
537
00:24:02,575 --> 00:24:05,912
Scotland Yard came over
to New York to follow
538
00:24:05,945 --> 00:24:09,882
that potential lead and Holmes
was in New York at the time.
539
00:24:15,254 --> 00:24:17,824
It's worth me going and
digging though records
540
00:24:17,857 --> 00:24:19,559
in New York and seeing
whether we can turn up
541
00:24:19,592 --> 00:24:20,993
some more information.
542
00:24:21,027 --> 00:24:22,562
- I'm gonna stick around
in Chicago in case there's
543
00:24:22,595 --> 00:24:24,697
an answer on our dig.
544
00:24:24,731 --> 00:24:27,133
I'm gonna give up on
getting the government
545
00:24:27,166 --> 00:24:30,903
to allow us to excavate
the Post Office grounds.
546
00:24:32,204 --> 00:24:35,542
(dramatic theme music)
547
00:24:36,743 --> 00:24:37,977
- This remains an open
548
00:24:38,010 --> 00:24:38,945
- Yes.
549
00:24:38,978 --> 00:24:41,714
case on New York Police
Department books.
550
00:24:41,748 --> 00:24:42,549
- Yes, right.
551
00:24:42,582 --> 00:24:43,850
Cases are never
closed until we have
552
00:24:43,883 --> 00:24:45,818
the actual perpetrator.
553
00:24:45,852 --> 00:24:47,520
- [Narrator] In New York
City, Amaryllis connects
554
00:24:47,554 --> 00:24:50,723
with former NYPD
detective, Ike Illkiw,
555
00:24:50,757 --> 00:24:53,192
an expert on the unsolved
murder of Carrie Brown to get
556
00:24:53,225 --> 00:24:55,528
the facts on the case.
557
00:24:55,562 --> 00:24:58,831
- From a detective's mind,
could you walk me through
558
00:24:58,865 --> 00:25:01,033
what happened with Carrie Brown?
559
00:25:01,067 --> 00:25:02,902
(woman laughing)
560
00:25:02,935 --> 00:25:05,838
- [Ike] We're talking about
April 1891 and Carrie Brown was
561
00:25:05,872 --> 00:25:09,208
a prostitute working
on the East River.
562
00:25:09,241 --> 00:25:10,810
- [Amaryllis] And we know the
Ripper targeted prostitutes
563
00:25:10,843 --> 00:25:13,012
as his victims in White Chapel.
564
00:25:13,045 --> 00:25:15,882
- So apparently she had picked
up a male, brought him up
565
00:25:15,915 --> 00:25:18,951
to room 31, at what was
then the East River Hotel.
566
00:25:18,985 --> 00:25:21,854
(woman laughing)
567
00:25:21,888 --> 00:25:24,891
She wasn't found until the
next morning when the girl
568
00:25:24,924 --> 00:25:26,826
that was hired to clean the
room went up and there was
569
00:25:26,859 --> 00:25:28,227
no answer to the door.
570
00:25:28,260 --> 00:25:29,261
To the knock.
571
00:25:30,630 --> 00:25:33,065
- Does she provide
any witness statement?
572
00:25:33,099 --> 00:25:35,602
- All it says is not the
slightest noise was heard
573
00:25:35,635 --> 00:25:38,270
during the night from the
chamber, but in the morning
574
00:25:38,304 --> 00:25:39,606
when a servant
rapped on the door
575
00:25:39,639 --> 00:25:41,741
the summons was unanswered.
576
00:25:41,774 --> 00:25:44,110
With the assistance of the
porter, burst open the door.
577
00:25:44,143 --> 00:25:45,578
The woman was found
in bed, quite dead
578
00:25:45,612 --> 00:25:47,814
and covered with blood.
579
00:25:47,847 --> 00:25:50,249
(woman crying)
580
00:25:53,052 --> 00:25:55,254
- So, why do people believe
that Carrie Brown might have
581
00:25:55,287 --> 00:25:56,455
been a Ripper victim?
582
00:25:56,488 --> 00:26:00,126
- She was disemboweled, her
intestines had been removed.
583
00:26:00,159 --> 00:26:01,728
- [Amaryllis] Is there
a coroner's report?
584
00:26:01,761 --> 00:26:02,695
- [Ike] Yeah.
585
00:26:03,896 --> 00:26:06,198
Her abdomen had been
ripped open by a dull,
586
00:26:06,232 --> 00:26:09,101
broken table knife which
was found in the room.
587
00:26:09,135 --> 00:26:11,871
Part of the intestines had
been removed and are missing.
588
00:26:11,904 --> 00:26:14,140
- [Amaryllis] So, an
organ was removed, hm.
589
00:26:14,173 --> 00:26:15,708
Was her throat slit?
590
00:26:15,742 --> 00:26:17,043
- No, it was
strangulation by clothing,
591
00:26:17,076 --> 00:26:18,911
according to the
coroner's report.
592
00:26:18,945 --> 00:26:22,281
- That's interesting
because from what I learned
593
00:26:22,314 --> 00:26:26,118
from investigators in London,
each of the five canonical
594
00:26:26,152 --> 00:26:30,322
Ripper victims were
killed by strangulation
595
00:26:30,356 --> 00:26:32,391
and, or the cutting
of the throat.
596
00:26:32,424 --> 00:26:33,192
-Right.
597
00:26:34,961 --> 00:26:37,263
Was she disemboweled
from between the legs
598
00:26:37,296 --> 00:26:38,097
up through the abdomen?
599
00:26:38,130 --> 00:26:40,733
- It would appear so.
600
00:26:40,767 --> 00:26:42,702
- That is strikingly
similar to
601
00:26:42,735 --> 00:26:43,602
[Ike] Right.
602
00:26:43,636 --> 00:26:46,272
Jack the Ripper's
killings in London.
603
00:26:46,305 --> 00:26:49,776
This is a picture of
Catherine Eddowes,
604
00:26:49,809 --> 00:26:52,712
who of course had been
disemboweled and her uterus
605
00:26:52,745 --> 00:26:54,914
and her kidney had been removed.
606
00:26:54,947 --> 00:26:57,283
What strikes me comparing
the Catherine Eddowes
607
00:26:57,316 --> 00:27:00,953
and Carrie Brown autopsy
photos, is that they both have
608
00:27:00,987 --> 00:27:05,291
this cadaver on the
dissection table feel to them.
609
00:27:05,324 --> 00:27:11,698
HH Holmes had a long history
of dissecting cadavers.
610
00:27:11,731 --> 00:27:14,266
Holmes was described as
opening up his cadavers
611
00:27:14,300 --> 00:27:17,970
like a jackrabbit
being dissected.
612
00:27:18,004 --> 00:27:21,073
And that is not a bad
description for both
613
00:27:21,107 --> 00:27:24,143
Carrie Brown and
Catherine Eddowes.
614
00:27:24,176 --> 00:27:25,745
Assuming that Carrie
Brown was a victim
615
00:27:25,778 --> 00:27:28,147
of Jack the Ripper in America,
then proving that Holmes
616
00:27:28,180 --> 00:27:30,149
killed Carrie Brown
means proving that
617
00:27:30,182 --> 00:27:32,018
Holmes is the Ripper.
618
00:27:32,051 --> 00:27:34,687
Why Holmes would execute this
particular killing outside
619
00:27:34,721 --> 00:27:36,388
of the Murder Castle,
we don't know.
620
00:27:36,422 --> 00:27:38,991
But it's a fascinating find.
621
00:27:39,025 --> 00:27:41,227
- What I always find interesting
is the, where it says here,
622
00:27:41,260 --> 00:27:44,931
the characteristics of this
tragedy are so exactly similar
623
00:27:44,964 --> 00:27:47,800
to the White Chapel murders
that the police confidently
624
00:27:47,834 --> 00:27:56,675
express the belief that the
murderer is Jack the Ripper.
625
00:27:59,378 --> 00:28:02,314
- Carrie Brown was a
quintessential Ripper victim.
626
00:28:02,348 --> 00:28:05,051
She was a prostitute,
she was strangled
627
00:28:05,084 --> 00:28:07,987
and disemboweled indoors,
just like the fifth
628
00:28:08,020 --> 00:28:09,321
Jack the Ripper killing.
629
00:28:09,355 --> 00:28:11,290
Class Jack M.O.
630
00:28:11,323 --> 00:28:13,926
- [Narrator] Amaryllis returns
to Chicago to debrief Jeff
631
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,095
on her New York
investigation while they wait
632
00:28:16,128 --> 00:28:18,765
for news on the
Murder Castle dig.
633
00:28:18,798 --> 00:28:21,433
- So more Holmes
Ripper coincidences.
634
00:28:21,467 --> 00:28:23,770
- I mean they do keep piling up.
635
00:28:23,803 --> 00:28:26,739
And I think we can say
from this that it validates
636
00:28:26,773 --> 00:28:31,043
our theory that Jack the Ripper
may have been an American
637
00:28:31,077 --> 00:28:33,445
and that his killing may have
picked up in the United States
638
00:28:33,479 --> 00:28:34,881
after it stopped in London.
639
00:28:34,914 --> 00:28:36,749
- Hold on, this might
be the post office.
640
00:28:36,783 --> 00:28:38,250
- Yeah, Jeff Mudget.
641
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,289
Oh, thanks for calling.
642
00:28:43,322 --> 00:28:46,158
Do you have any word
back on my request?
643
00:28:46,192 --> 00:28:47,927
- If Holmes really
was Jack the Ripper,
644
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,262
this could be the only site
where we can find evidence
645
00:28:50,296 --> 00:28:52,832
that links Holmes to
the London murders.
646
00:28:52,865 --> 00:28:54,300
Gaining access to the
castle lawn would be
647
00:28:54,333 --> 00:28:57,069
a huge breakthrough
in our investigation.
648
00:28:57,103 --> 00:28:59,872
- I appreciate the call.
649
00:28:59,906 --> 00:29:01,507
Goodbye.
650
00:29:01,540 --> 00:29:03,810
- [Amaryllis] That
didn't sound good.
651
00:29:03,843 --> 00:29:05,978
- No, they said no.
652
00:29:06,012 --> 00:29:07,914
Post office shut us down.
653
00:29:07,947 --> 00:29:10,850
They were concerned that
the excavation would be
654
00:29:10,883 --> 00:29:13,019
a disruption of the mail and
perhaps even a disservice
655
00:29:13,052 --> 00:29:15,221
to the community.
656
00:29:15,254 --> 00:29:17,456
- I mean, for any
investigator to be told
657
00:29:17,489 --> 00:29:20,526
that you're investigating
a multiple homicide
658
00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:23,229
but you're not allowed access
to the scene of the crime,
659
00:29:23,262 --> 00:29:25,131
is a really tough blow.
660
00:29:25,164 --> 00:29:29,468
If this were a case that that
was open and active right now,
661
00:29:29,501 --> 00:29:32,504
we would be getting
a different answer.
662
00:29:32,538 --> 00:29:35,007
- Getting underground
at the Murder Castle was
663
00:29:35,041 --> 00:29:39,111
the best chance we had at
proving Holmes was the Ripper.
664
00:29:39,145 --> 00:29:42,348
It sounds like an excavation
is off the table for now.
665
00:29:42,381 --> 00:29:44,951
That is a big disappointment.
666
00:29:44,984 --> 00:29:46,853
I still have my fingers crossed
that we'll get the chance
667
00:29:46,886 --> 00:29:49,088
one day if we keep
up the pressure.
668
00:29:49,121 --> 00:29:50,389
- Cold cases are tough.
669
00:29:50,422 --> 00:29:52,859
There are always two steps
forward, one step back.
670
00:29:52,892 --> 00:29:56,328
This is definitely a setback
for our investigation.
671
00:29:56,362 --> 00:29:58,330
But we do have some evidence
we haven't analyzed yet.
672
00:29:58,364 --> 00:30:01,233
We have a couple of letters
from the Jack the Ripper
673
00:30:01,267 --> 00:30:04,436
killings that forensic linguists
have told us may have been
674
00:30:04,470 --> 00:30:05,905
written by an American.
675
00:30:05,938 --> 00:30:07,606
And at this stage
we have many samples
676
00:30:07,639 --> 00:30:09,308
of Holmes' handwriting.
677
00:30:09,341 --> 00:30:12,311
So I've sent those to a
forensic handwriting expert
678
00:30:12,344 --> 00:30:14,180
to see if there were
any similarities
679
00:30:14,213 --> 00:30:16,248
that could prove or
disprove your theory.
680
00:30:16,282 --> 00:30:19,051
- If we do get a positive
match, that would go a long way
681
00:30:19,085 --> 00:30:22,521
to proving they are
the same killer.
682
00:30:22,554 --> 00:30:25,858
(soft dramatic theme)
683
00:30:30,229 --> 00:30:32,865
- The normal lay person
will look at letters.
684
00:30:32,899 --> 00:30:35,401
The letter L looks the
same, the G looks the same,
685
00:30:35,434 --> 00:30:37,203
the T looks the same.
686
00:30:37,236 --> 00:30:41,040
What the expert does,
we'll look at patterns.
687
00:30:41,073 --> 00:30:43,075
- [Narrator] Like fingerprints,
handwriting is unique
688
00:30:43,109 --> 00:30:46,645
to each individual and
different to fake or manipulate.
689
00:30:46,678 --> 00:30:49,281
Forensic document examiners
can identify criminals
690
00:30:49,315 --> 00:30:52,518
and forgeries by
studying writing samples.
691
00:30:52,551 --> 00:30:54,153
- Could you give us a few
examples of what it is
692
00:30:54,186 --> 00:30:55,054
you look for?
693
00:30:55,087 --> 00:30:56,055
- Sure.
694
00:30:56,088 --> 00:30:58,190
In this particular case
that I was working on
695
00:30:58,224 --> 00:31:01,627
when you came in, we
look for common letters
696
00:31:01,660 --> 00:31:03,562
but we'll also look
for common words.
697
00:31:03,595 --> 00:31:09,068
In the word, In, this looks
like a U, but in fact it's an N.
698
00:31:09,101 --> 00:31:12,071
We'll look at different
height relationships between
699
00:31:12,104 --> 00:31:13,973
different letters, or,
700
00:31:14,006 --> 00:31:17,343
the skill and speed of the
writer, to provide the basis
701
00:31:17,376 --> 00:31:20,079
for our identification
or elimination
702
00:31:20,112 --> 00:31:21,613
of a particular writer.
703
00:31:21,647 --> 00:31:24,416
- And how much would this
be a factor of education
704
00:31:24,450 --> 00:31:25,952
or of the time.
705
00:31:25,985 --> 00:31:28,487
For example, when we look
at the older documents
706
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,324
and they are frequently kind
of embellishments on capital
707
00:31:32,358 --> 00:31:35,294
letters that you wouldn't see
in today's hand writing very
708
00:31:35,327 --> 00:31:39,331
frequently to our modernize
we immediately believe
709
00:31:39,365 --> 00:31:41,233
that this is written
by the same person.
710
00:31:41,267 --> 00:31:43,535
- That's a very good question.
711
00:31:43,569 --> 00:31:46,305
You have to be very careful
at looking at something
712
00:31:46,338 --> 00:31:49,408
and determining if
this is very unique.
713
00:31:49,441 --> 00:31:53,012
When, in fact it's not that
individual characteristic but it
714
00:31:53,045 --> 00:31:55,514
is just a class characteristic
of those writers
715
00:31:55,547 --> 00:31:57,416
from that time period.
716
00:31:57,449 --> 00:32:00,419
- How would you tell
when letters are written
717
00:32:00,452 --> 00:32:02,654
by the same person who
was intentionally trying
718
00:32:02,688 --> 00:32:04,490
to mask their identity?
719
00:32:06,225 --> 00:32:10,162
- If I suspect a disguise,
I will go right to the end,
720
00:32:10,196 --> 00:32:12,598
because it's very difficult
to keep up the disguise
721
00:32:12,631 --> 00:32:15,001
from the beginning to the end.
722
00:32:15,034 --> 00:32:17,703
And then start from the
end and work our way up.
723
00:32:17,736 --> 00:32:21,373
Then you'll see more of the
natural writing of the person.
724
00:32:21,407 --> 00:32:25,177
- So, we have here
two sets of letters.
725
00:32:25,211 --> 00:32:28,180
And we're interested in
your professional opinion
726
00:32:28,214 --> 00:32:30,516
about whether or not they
could have been penned
727
00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:32,051
by the same hand.
728
00:32:32,084 --> 00:32:33,252
- OK.
729
00:32:33,285 --> 00:32:36,322
- How long does it take you
to do this kind of analysis?
730
00:32:36,355 --> 00:32:38,524
- Generally about a week
for us to turn it around.
731
00:32:38,557 --> 00:32:40,559
- [Amaryllis] Sounds good.
732
00:32:41,660 --> 00:32:43,762
(dramatic theme music)
733
00:32:43,795 --> 00:32:45,597
- [Narrator] With the
handwriting analysis underway,
734
00:32:45,631 --> 00:32:47,633
Jeff and Amaryllis meet
with Ray Johnson to plan
735
00:32:47,666 --> 00:32:49,601
their next move.
736
00:32:49,635 --> 00:32:51,070
- We've been officially
shut down from digging under
737
00:32:51,103 --> 00:32:52,438
the post office.
738
00:32:52,471 --> 00:32:55,307
And the frustrating
thing is that that lawn,
739
00:32:55,341 --> 00:32:57,276
where the Murder
Castle used to stand,
740
00:32:57,309 --> 00:33:01,247
is the only repository
of Holmes' victims.
741
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,016
- Well, I wouldn't say only.
742
00:33:04,050 --> 00:33:06,418
While the Murder Castle
was one of Holmes
743
00:33:06,452 --> 00:33:09,655
most famous buildings, he did
own property all over Chicago
744
00:33:09,688 --> 00:33:10,856
in fact all over the country.
745
00:33:10,889 --> 00:33:14,293
And the reason being was to
cover up his various schemes.
746
00:33:14,326 --> 00:33:17,096
Some of the properties he owned-
were the Wilmette property
747
00:33:17,129 --> 00:33:20,299
which he owned with his
second wife, Myrta Belknap.
748
00:33:20,332 --> 00:33:23,269
A small farm just
outside of Joliet.
749
00:33:23,302 --> 00:33:26,372
The glass bending factory in
the North Side of Chicago.
750
00:33:26,405 --> 00:33:27,806
And everywhere that he owned
real estate
751
00:33:27,839 --> 00:33:30,476
you can be sure he was
killing people.
752
00:33:30,509 --> 00:33:33,312
The unfortunate thing is
that like the Murder Castle,
753
00:33:33,345 --> 00:33:37,483
the other locations that he
operated in had been torn down
754
00:33:37,516 --> 00:33:40,419
to make room for condos
and other buildings.
755
00:33:40,452 --> 00:33:43,822
So to be able to dig there
would be next to impossible.
756
00:33:43,855 --> 00:33:45,691
- [Jeff] So is there anywhere
left that we could possibly
757
00:33:45,724 --> 00:33:48,427
find physical evidence.
758
00:33:48,460 --> 00:33:51,730
- Well, the one business that
Holmes did own that might be
759
00:33:51,763 --> 00:33:54,833
worth investigating is the
William Green & company.
760
00:33:54,866 --> 00:33:57,803
Now, that is the location that
I believe in 1892 he disposed
761
00:33:57,836 --> 00:34:01,207
of one of his victims,
Emmeline Segrand.
762
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,177
She moved to the castle and
started working for Holmes.
763
00:34:05,211 --> 00:34:08,114
She was a stenographer
and secretary.
764
00:34:09,515 --> 00:34:12,584
All of a sudden out of
nowhere this announcement hits
765
00:34:12,618 --> 00:34:14,420
the newspaper that
she is getting married
766
00:34:14,453 --> 00:34:16,622
to someone named Robert Phelps.
767
00:34:16,655 --> 00:34:18,557
(flame raging)
768
00:34:18,590 --> 00:34:20,426
And one of her friends is
like, That's odd because I had
769
00:34:20,459 --> 00:34:23,162
contact with her on
December 5th and 6th
770
00:34:23,195 --> 00:34:24,496
and she never
mentioned anything.
771
00:34:24,530 --> 00:34:26,498
So, flags were going
up all over the place.
772
00:34:26,532 --> 00:34:28,467
And then she disappeared.
773
00:34:30,736 --> 00:34:32,304
Now, when Holmes was
approached about it,
774
00:34:32,338 --> 00:34:34,440
he said that she got
married in Minnesota.
775
00:34:34,473 --> 00:34:37,376
At another point he said
she got married in Michigan.
776
00:34:37,409 --> 00:34:40,679
And then his story
kept changing.
777
00:34:40,712 --> 00:34:43,515
It wasn't until the actual
investigation started that
778
00:34:43,549 --> 00:34:46,252
someone who worked at
the castle mentioned that
779
00:34:46,285 --> 00:34:49,688
on December 7th they
remember Holmes asking
780
00:34:51,323 --> 00:34:54,760
men to help him carry a very
heavy trunk out of the castle.
781
00:34:57,463 --> 00:34:59,898
And where it went
they weren't sure.
782
00:34:59,931 --> 00:35:01,833
- Where did they end up?
783
00:35:01,867 --> 00:35:05,571
- Well, that's when it
gets really interesting.
784
00:35:05,604 --> 00:35:07,206
William Green and Company.
785
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,342
They were a warehouse facility
in the business of storing
786
00:35:10,376 --> 00:35:12,878
and supposedly selling cement.
787
00:35:12,911 --> 00:35:14,813
The funny thing is that
they were buying a lot
788
00:35:14,846 --> 00:35:17,183
of cement but they
never sold any.
789
00:35:17,216 --> 00:35:19,418
And check out the
location of the factory.
790
00:35:19,451 --> 00:35:21,487
- [Amaryllis] The warehouse
is located on North Water St.
791
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:26,258
1600 feet east of St. Clair
Street and running to the river.
792
00:35:26,292 --> 00:35:28,394
- It kind of made the hair
stand up on my neck when I first
793
00:35:28,427 --> 00:35:30,562
saw where the warehouse was.
794
00:35:32,698 --> 00:35:34,500
If you're serial killer and
you're trying to get rid
795
00:35:34,533 --> 00:35:38,370
of bodies, and you want to
do it less conspicuously
796
00:35:38,404 --> 00:35:40,406
then let's say burning
them up in a furnace
797
00:35:40,439 --> 00:35:42,708
in the murder Castle, it'd
be much easier to dispose
798
00:35:42,741 --> 00:35:43,809
of bodies by...
799
00:35:45,777 --> 00:35:48,680
Incasing them in cement
very easily and dropping
800
00:35:48,714 --> 00:35:50,682
them in the Chicago river
801
00:35:53,985 --> 00:35:56,355
(dramatic theme music)
802
00:35:56,388 --> 00:35:58,924
Holmes was tied to this
business that had a warehouse
803
00:35:58,957 --> 00:36:02,428
along the Chicago River
filled with cement.
804
00:36:02,461 --> 00:36:03,829
- [Narrator] On the
hunt to prove HH Holmes
805
00:36:03,862 --> 00:36:06,698
is Jack the Ripper, a tip
from Ray Johnson has opened up
806
00:36:06,732 --> 00:36:08,900
a new lead that could
produce the physical evidence
807
00:36:08,934 --> 00:36:12,304
Jeff and Amaryllis
are looking for.
808
00:36:12,338 --> 00:36:14,306
They've arranged a
meeting with an underwater
809
00:36:14,340 --> 00:36:16,842
reconnaissance team to
uncover whether Holmes' cement
810
00:36:16,875 --> 00:36:19,778
warehouse on the Chicago
River may have been a front
811
00:36:19,811 --> 00:36:21,880
to conceal it's true purpose.
812
00:36:21,913 --> 00:36:23,815
Body disposal.
813
00:36:23,849 --> 00:36:26,718
- The area where the
warehouse was located
814
00:36:26,752 --> 00:36:29,755
was on the north side of
Chicago River just west
815
00:36:29,788 --> 00:36:31,390
of the mouth.
816
00:36:31,423 --> 00:36:33,759
What type of area was it?
817
00:36:33,792 --> 00:36:37,929
- In the late 1890s, that was
all factories and this was all
818
00:36:37,963 --> 00:36:39,498
heavy industrial stuff.
819
00:36:39,531 --> 00:36:41,867
Now it is obviously not.
820
00:36:41,900 --> 00:36:44,636
It's high-end
hotels, residences.
821
00:36:45,737 --> 00:36:48,574
Totally changed
from that period.
822
00:36:48,607 --> 00:36:51,810
Plus, the River
itself has changed.
823
00:36:51,843 --> 00:36:52,911
- [Amaryllis] How do you mean?
824
00:36:52,944 --> 00:36:57,215
- Well, In 1892 they reversed
the flow of the River.
825
00:36:58,717 --> 00:37:01,520
- [Narrator] While Chicago's
industry booms in the 1870s
826
00:37:01,553 --> 00:37:04,656
and 80s, the drinking water
the city relies on is being
827
00:37:04,690 --> 00:37:07,959
contaminated by sewage
and commercial waste.
828
00:37:07,993 --> 00:37:12,030
In 1885, a heavy rainstorm
flushes the polluted water into
829
00:37:12,063 --> 00:37:15,534
the lake starting an epidemic
of waterborne diseases
830
00:37:15,567 --> 00:37:19,338
that kills nearly 12%
of Chicago's population.
831
00:37:19,371 --> 00:37:22,408
The city begins a massive
project to keep its water safe
832
00:37:22,441 --> 00:37:25,777
by reversing the flow
of the Chicago River.
833
00:37:25,811 --> 00:37:28,847
It is regarded as one of the
greatest engineering feats
834
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,916
of the 19th century.
835
00:37:30,949 --> 00:37:33,485
- The Army Corp of engineers
dredged the River 15 feet
836
00:37:33,519 --> 00:37:35,621
deeper and it took
them about seven years.
837
00:37:35,654 --> 00:37:36,888
- When they dredged the River,
838
00:37:36,922 --> 00:37:38,790
they dredged the entire river.
839
00:37:38,824 --> 00:37:40,526
- Including the portion that
we are talking about now?
840
00:37:40,559 --> 00:37:44,330
- Including the portion
we are talking about.
841
00:37:44,363 --> 00:37:44,996
But,
842
00:37:46,565 --> 00:37:48,567
Chicago River's a
little bit unique.
843
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,870
Unlike many rivers that
have a fair amount of flow,
844
00:37:51,903 --> 00:37:53,805
Chicago River doesn't.
845
00:37:53,839 --> 00:37:56,007
Everything kind of
just sits there.
846
00:37:56,041 --> 00:37:59,044
So, we have a better
chance with this river,
847
00:37:59,077 --> 00:38:00,612
it's worth taking a look.
848
00:38:00,646 --> 00:38:01,447
- That is encouraging.
849
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,482
It sounds like a
higher likelihood
850
00:38:03,515 --> 00:38:06,418
in this River that in most that
something would remain there
851
00:38:06,452 --> 00:38:07,553
for a long period of time.
852
00:38:07,586 --> 00:38:09,721
- I would guess that, yeah.
853
00:38:11,890 --> 00:38:14,460
- [Amaryllis] What do you say
we go take a look at the site?
854
00:38:14,493 --> 00:38:16,662
- [Greg] Sounds like a plan.
855
00:38:16,695 --> 00:38:19,765
(dramatic theme music)
856
00:38:21,500 --> 00:38:23,034
- If we were standing
here in the 1890s,
857
00:38:23,068 --> 00:38:25,003
what would we be looking at?
858
00:38:25,036 --> 00:38:27,038
- If you look at that little
atrium that kind of splits
859
00:38:27,072 --> 00:38:29,775
the two Towers, that is
kind of dead center where
860
00:38:29,808 --> 00:38:31,577
the warehouse was.
861
00:38:31,610 --> 00:38:32,978
- [Jeff] So, how would we go
about searching the bottom
862
00:38:33,011 --> 00:38:34,413
of the river
863
00:38:34,446 --> 00:38:35,581
- We've got an ROV.
864
00:38:35,614 --> 00:38:38,417
A remote operated vehicle
that we'll put in the water,
865
00:38:38,450 --> 00:38:42,087
put the boat against
the Riverwalk here
866
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,557
and work a kind of a
grid pattern search.
867
00:38:46,758 --> 00:38:48,560
- [Amaryllis] What
would we be looking for?
868
00:38:48,594 --> 00:38:51,863
- What I've seen in the past,
for example in going to get
869
00:38:51,897 --> 00:38:56,735
cannonballs out of some of
the sites off of Canada,
870
00:38:56,768 --> 00:38:59,471
you actually find
holes in the muck--
871
00:38:59,505 --> 00:39:00,372
- Really.
872
00:39:00,406 --> 00:39:01,239
- [Greg] Where the
cannonballs went in.
873
00:39:01,272 --> 00:39:03,108
- Wow, like a depression
in the bottom.
874
00:39:03,141 --> 00:39:04,576
- Exactly.
875
00:39:04,610 --> 00:39:08,013
That hole will stay
there for years.
876
00:39:08,046 --> 00:39:10,549
That's kind of what I am
going to be looking for,
877
00:39:10,582 --> 00:39:14,553
do we have these craters
which is an indication
878
00:39:14,586 --> 00:39:17,423
that something has
been tossed in there.
879
00:39:17,456 --> 00:39:18,757
- OK, so let's meet
back up in the morning
880
00:39:18,790 --> 00:39:20,526
and scan this river.
881
00:39:20,559 --> 00:39:23,662
(dramatic theme music)
882
00:39:27,699 --> 00:39:28,734
- Consider this.
883
00:39:28,767 --> 00:39:32,638
We are on the verge of
using this submersible robot
884
00:39:32,671 --> 00:39:35,574
to attempt to investigate
HH Holmes connection
885
00:39:35,607 --> 00:39:37,743
with Jack the Ripper.
886
00:39:37,776 --> 00:39:40,712
- We've got a chance of finding
bodies encased in cement
887
00:39:40,746 --> 00:39:43,014
at the bottom of
this river floor.
888
00:39:43,048 --> 00:39:44,950
What we don't know
is what to expect.
889
00:39:44,983 --> 00:39:47,519
These could be human-sized
cement coffins,
890
00:39:47,553 --> 00:39:48,987
or they could be
smaller chunks of cement
891
00:39:49,020 --> 00:39:51,022
that contain body parts.
892
00:39:51,056 --> 00:39:54,926
Either way, they could be
time capsules of evidence.
893
00:40:03,802 --> 00:40:05,103
- [Greg] He's in.
894
00:40:07,906 --> 00:40:10,676
Adam, let out some cable.
895
00:40:10,709 --> 00:40:14,446
We're going to run it a
little bit further east.
896
00:40:15,814 --> 00:40:18,884
(soft dramatic theme)
897
00:40:23,755 --> 00:40:25,891
Go ahead and bring her down.
898
00:40:28,594 --> 00:40:31,697
(soft dramatic theme)
899
00:40:35,534 --> 00:40:37,536
- [Jeff] What exactly
are we looking at here?
900
00:40:37,569 --> 00:40:41,473
- Probably anywhere from
three to six feet of silt.
901
00:40:44,009 --> 00:40:47,112
(soft dramatic theme)
902
00:40:49,681 --> 00:40:51,550
Here we go, there we go.
903
00:40:51,583 --> 00:40:53,852
Can we hold it right in there?
904
00:40:56,822 --> 00:40:58,590
- [All] Wow.
905
00:40:58,624 --> 00:40:59,625
- Go up a little bit.
906
00:40:59,658 --> 00:41:01,993
Just a little bit, OK.
907
00:41:02,027 --> 00:41:04,095
You see these little bumps here?
908
00:41:04,129 --> 00:41:05,931
- [Amaryllis] Whoa, there
are so many of them.
909
00:41:05,964 --> 00:41:09,200
- This is an indication that
things have been dumped here.
910
00:41:13,805 --> 00:41:16,174
- [Narrator] Next time
on American Ripper.
911
00:41:16,207 --> 00:41:19,511
- What could have been a
more perfect place on Earth
912
00:41:19,545 --> 00:41:22,514
for a killer of his nature
than something like this.
913
00:41:22,548 --> 00:41:24,282
Two miles from his hotel.
914
00:41:24,315 --> 00:41:26,652
- There was a number of
things I found about women
915
00:41:26,685 --> 00:41:27,986
with their throats cut.
916
00:41:28,019 --> 00:41:30,055
- My great, great aunt
took a trip to Chicago
917
00:41:30,088 --> 00:41:32,123
and was never heard from again.
918
00:41:32,157 --> 00:41:34,593
- [Man] I wonder how many
unknown women were found
919
00:41:34,626 --> 00:41:37,663
with Ripper-esque type
of murders in Chicago.
920
00:41:37,696 --> 00:41:38,664
That's interesting.
921
00:41:38,697 --> 00:41:40,165
Unknown woman, unknown woman.
922
00:41:40,198 --> 00:41:42,033
Throat cut from ear to ear.
923
00:41:42,067 --> 00:41:44,603
- We have some results
that are regressing.
924
00:41:44,636 --> 00:41:46,638
A picture's worth
a thousand words.
925
00:41:46,672 --> 00:41:49,841
- How can you best preserve
a body for 100 years?
926
00:41:49,875 --> 00:41:51,643
Encase it in concrete?
927
00:41:54,813 --> 00:41:57,115
- So, we're talking about
a forensic time capsule.
928
00:41:57,148 --> 00:41:57,849
- Oh yea.
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