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[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
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MAN 1: You gotta understand
that this was 1976.
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James Brown, Stravinsky,
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Jimi Hendrix, Elvis Presley,
Frank Sinatra,
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all of these people
were making music
at the same time.
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Everybody wore it as a badge,
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it was a war crime
to be different,
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musicians owned
the music business,
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MAN 2: This guy approaches me.
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Then he said, "By the way,
I want to introduce myself."
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"My name is
John Francis Pastorius III.
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I'm the greatest bass player
in the world."
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And I said,
"Get the fuck out of here."
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MAN 3: I'm saying to myself,
"Well, I'm might be selling
this little white kid.
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I'm gonna have to show him
what to play and everything.
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I have to tell him that,
you know.
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I... The only thing
I wanted to say was,
"Slow down, man."
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[LAUGHS]
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MAN 4: He could play Fields.
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Blues Fields, that people
hadn't played in 30 years.
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MAN 5: Good Lord,
no one was fucking with
John Francis Pastorius III.
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You kidding me?
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You know, many come
and few are chosen.
He just had that.
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WOMAN: He had a mystical face.
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You know, contact
with the great mind,
the divine mind,
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that permeates us all.
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MAN 6: We were all like,
"Man, Jaco!"
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And you know, it was like
going to a game
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and you're rootin' for,
you know, Michael Jordan.
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MAN 7: There were people
who broke the bones
in their thumbs
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so that they could bend
their thumbs back
like Jaco could.
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MAN 1: Oh, it's just
the sound of it.
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MAN 2: The sound? I said,
"What the fuck is that?"
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MAN 8: That's a bass player
doing that.
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MAN 5: And not in your lifetime
are you gonna find
another one like that.
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[JAZZ MUSIC CONTINUES]
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MAN 3: Good evening.
Welcome to Oakland Park,
Florida, where I grew up.
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I had the fortunate experience
of growing up with everybody
that played music.
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I know where I stole
every note.
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And I was raised
by the best musicians
in the world.
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Thank you, Jesus and God.
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[WHISTLE BLOWS]
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MAN: Had to be '83 or '84...
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How do you feel
today, Jaco?
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- Okay, Jerry.
- All right.
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You know, a lot has
been said about you.
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But the main thing
is that people recognize
the fact
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that you're able to play
with real sincerity,
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every style of music.
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Not only every style,
but you can play
all parts of a given piece
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at the same time,
on this one instrument,
the bass.
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Now, because of this,
a lot of people
have gone crazy
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trying to duplicate
what you do.
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People who have
become great fans
of the bass
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and given it
quite a bit of attention.
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How do you, uh,
feel about that?
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- Give me a gig, you know.
- [BOTH LAUGH]
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[PLAYS A CHORD]
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He said, "Well, heck,
you know, give me a gig."
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And ironically,
at that particular point,
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he couldn't get...
He couldn't get a gig.
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What drove you
to this point?
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It was all over him.
You could see it,
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that he was a man
who had trouble.
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But getting it out
was, was very important.
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Even, you know,
in the shape that he was in.
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[BASS GUITAR PLAYING]
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It wasn't just notes.
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It had feeling,
it had meaning to it,
it had character.
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You can't really
teach that,
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This is stuff that he
learned to play
when he was in his heart.
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[THUNDER RUMBLING]
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[BASS GUITAR PLAYING]
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[CROWD CHEERING
AND APPLAUDING]
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ROBERT: Jaco, four letters.
Who is this guy?
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And once you actually
heard him play,
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you know, it was like
getting slapped in the face,
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you know, just bam!
Wow!
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FLEA: Everything changed
when he started playing,
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it was never
the same again,
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he shredded everything
that came before him
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and it will never
be done again.
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He just changed the rules
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of what's possible
on the bass
and what can be done.
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That, that dude
was the greatest, you know.
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I mean, we all say
that he's our Hendrix.
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[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
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[CONTINUE CHEERING]
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[SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING]
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JERRY: Remarkable talent.
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The delivery system was that,
yeah, the chops were there,
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but the support he needed
was pulled away.
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For whatever reason.
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He was already an artist,
you see,
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and being an artist,
it's hard to, you know,
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it's hard to go back.
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[ELECTRONIC MUSIC PLAYING]
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JACO: I grew up in Florida,
where there was no
real musical prejudice.
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There was all sorts of music.
Everything from Cuban music
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to symphonic music,
everything.
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Like, everything
you wanted to hear,
you could hear it.
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And everything was here.
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I really wasn't influenced
that much by bass players.
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To tell you the truth,
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I didn't even know
who the bass players were
most of the time.
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The main thing
was just the music itself.
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Whatever was like hip then,
that's what I was checking out.
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Mostly, like, all 45s.
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[PLEASE DON'T LOVE ME PLAYING]
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* Please don't love me
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* And please don't step on toes
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* It's not too smart
To walk on hearts
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* So, baby, please go slow...
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We moved to Florida
in around '58, '59.
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There was never
a bad record in our house.
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Nat King Cole, Tony Bennett,
all the big bands.
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That was all I would listen to.
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* But, baby, please go slow
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* And don't be so dark
I'm serious
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* You could learn to fly...
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Jaco used to come up
and watch us.
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Believe it or not,
we're working in
Charlie Johnson's Crab House
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and his mother
brought him in for dinner.
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And I got Jaco
up on the bandstand
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sat him on the piano.
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He sang the whole
Come Fly With Me album.
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Sinatra album.
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That is the first time
that I ever thought,
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"Man, like, this guy
is gonna be something else."
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He just sat there like nothing
and sang the whole album.
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- [BASS GUITAR PLAYING]
- [APPLAUSE]
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Jaco used to go to bed at night
with little transistor radios.
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He would listen to Cuba.
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He would get Cuba
on that radio.
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- [CUBAN MUSIC PLAYING]
- [PEOPLE CHATTERING]
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He was obsessed
with good music.
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He served papers.
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He had 250 papers a day.
In the off season.
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He was a worker.
He was a worker.
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So one day he went out
and bought
a full set of drums.
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All the money he saved.
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[CUBAN MUSIC CONTINUES]
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Jaco was born
John Francis Pastorius III,
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but my mom didn't
want to call him John
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'cause that was,
you know, my grandfather.
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And it wasn't
going to be Jack.
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And she says she came up
with Jaco.
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My mom had a really
horrific childhood.
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Her mother took everything
that was wrong in her life,
out on my mom.
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She was the middle
of nine children.
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My mom wanted to be
the homemaker, you know,
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She wanted to take care
of somebody.
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My dad did not want
to be taken care of.
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They would go out
to dinner
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and everybody wanted
to buy Jack a drink.
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He was an entertainer.
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And so, it became
pretty evident
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when we moved
to South Florida
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that we were gonna live
with my mom
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and my dad was gonna
float around.
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[ENGINE REVVING]
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My dad, you know,
sent money.
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A couple of times
where it lapsed.
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Clothes got passed down
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and you know, I can remember,
you know, pancakes
and Kool-Aid for dinner.
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You know, it was
life with mom.
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[DRUMSTICKS CLACKING]
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[UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING]
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[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
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Las Olas Brass
was based on, you know,
the Tijuana Brass,
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Herb Alpert's thing.
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Soul tunes
and anything Motown.
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But back then,
Florida was,
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South Florida was
a cracker town, man.
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You got the nice white side
over here, on the east,
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and to the west was
what you now call the hood.
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We would go ride our bicycles
over into, you know, the hood.
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And I remember,
we used to sit on sacks.
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[MUSIC CONTINUES]
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[DOG BARKING]
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BOB: In the neighborhood
there was this club...
There it is.
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You know, it was like,
two houses put together.
And a fence around it.
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And everyone's howling
in the street.
[HOWLS]
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You know, they got
a couple of neon signs.
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It's like a makeshift
night club in the middle
of this neighborhood.
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It was wild, you know.
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And I'm thinkin', "Okay,
you know, I don't wanna"
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act like I'm frightened
or concerned about this."
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We're kids, you know.
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But he says, "Park there."
He directs me to park
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over weeds, in this field.
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And he goes, "Listen, man,
I'm gonna get ready to play
and be cool."
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[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
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This place was wild.
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It's a total black club,
of course, and he's already
got this like, jive thing,
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"Hey, baby,
what's happening?"
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And you know, it's,
"Oh, hey, Jaco."
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It's like he practiced
with the band, you know.
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I mean, he knew the tunes.
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Jaco was looking for
the best musicians,
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searching out the hottest cats.
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He loved guys
like Little Beaver,
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Frank Williams
and The Rocketeers.
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These guys aren't on records
on the stores,
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they're been played
on black stations only.
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Like on WRBD Radio,
it was a black station.
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By the way, Jaco got
three dollars that night.
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Three dollars.
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[SOMBER MUSIC PLAYING]
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JACO: That was it.
I just started that simple.
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I just went and bought a bass
and I was working at night,
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just making like
I could play it, you know.
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R&B or maybe
some rock 'n' roll
or whatever.
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Just to get some work,
you know.
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Have some fun.
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And I had no ambition
whatsoever in life, at all,
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except for just,
um, play tonight.
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That's it. I'm gonna go
play tonight over at this club,
you know.
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[ROCK 'N' ROLL MUSIC PLAYING]
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[ENGINE REVVING]
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* Can't Turn You Loose...
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I love, rot gut, stomp, kick,
blues, rhythmic blues.
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Over the years,
I was know as
the king of Blue Eyed Soul.
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See, up to then people toured,
that's what you did,
you toured year round.
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I toured 48 to 50 weeks
a year for 25 years.
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And if you walk off
with any energy left
then you didn't give your all.
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I mean, you had to be the best
amongst the most exciting,
the baddest that ever lived.
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It was hell on any musician.
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They just didn't believe
when you come into band
that you could cut it.
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Because they believed
they were the baddest
kickers in the world.
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They could chew
a little kid like Jaco up.
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And he comes in
to audition, of course,
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the band put charts
in front of him
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from what I gather,
he didn't read much at all.
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All that mattered to me
was can he play a field.
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I just give him a chord and say
"I'm gonna count to four,
we're gonna play a blues."
237
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Play some lead blues right now.
238
00:16:06,533 --> 00:16:09,236
* 'Cause the old folks
239
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* The old folks
Keep on dying, yeah... *
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He was straight,
he could play fields,
blues fields,
241
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that people hadn't played
in thirty years.
242
00:16:19,046 --> 00:16:21,414
If he heard it one time,
he could play it
authentically,
243
00:16:21,448 --> 00:16:24,351
but not only
where the notes right,
the field was right.
244
00:16:24,384 --> 00:16:26,353
And that was the one thing
that impressed me.
245
00:16:26,386 --> 00:16:28,521
I knew it, I knew
somebody in the band
gonna teach him to read.
246
00:16:31,324 --> 00:16:35,262
RANDY: Jaco had two pairs
of corduroy jeans
and three t-shirts
247
00:16:35,295 --> 00:16:39,166
and everything he owned fit
in his Fender bass case.
248
00:16:39,199 --> 00:16:44,537
The tux was way to big for Jaco
so he left all his clothes on
249
00:16:44,571 --> 00:16:46,773
and put the tux on
over it so he's got
250
00:16:46,806 --> 00:16:49,342
two layers of clothes
to make his tux fit
251
00:16:49,376 --> 00:16:51,078
[LAUGHING]
252
00:16:51,111 --> 00:16:54,147
He kept all his money
and cash and put it in his sock
253
00:16:54,181 --> 00:16:56,149
and he put it in his
Fender bass case.
254
00:16:56,483 --> 00:16:59,186
And uh,
255
00:16:59,219 --> 00:17:01,788
he spent very little money.
256
00:17:01,821 --> 00:17:04,657
If we ate in a restaurant,
he ordered the cheapest thing
on the menu.
257
00:17:04,691 --> 00:17:08,195
Usually a hot dog.
That's what he ate.
258
00:17:08,228 --> 00:17:11,698
Put the rest of the money
in his sock, kept it,
and sent it home.
259
00:17:11,731 --> 00:17:14,734
He was, he was
a great road father.
260
00:17:16,236 --> 00:17:17,737
[BIRDS CHIRPING]
261
00:17:21,441 --> 00:17:23,410
[MELLOW MUSIC PLAYING]
262
00:17:43,596 --> 00:17:46,466
I was instantly
comfortable with him.
263
00:17:48,735 --> 00:17:51,304
You know, he had
that kinda power over people.
264
00:17:51,338 --> 00:17:52,305
Instant charm.
265
00:17:55,908 --> 00:17:58,245
He was a junior,
I was a sophomore.
266
00:17:58,278 --> 00:18:00,380
And he and I just sat
on a beach bench
267
00:18:00,413 --> 00:18:02,449
and just talked
for a couple of hours.
268
00:18:05,852 --> 00:18:09,889
Both our fathers
were Jazz musicians,
269
00:18:09,922 --> 00:18:13,860
both our families
had broken up,
the fathers drank to much,
270
00:18:13,893 --> 00:18:16,496
you know, I, I didn't have
to put on any errors.
271
00:18:23,370 --> 00:18:27,440
He had it figured out
mathematically.
272
00:18:27,474 --> 00:18:30,177
That when I was a senior
in high school,
273
00:18:30,210 --> 00:18:32,779
"You know what,
I think it's time for us
to have a baby."
274
00:18:37,817 --> 00:18:39,852
He had places to go.
275
00:18:53,233 --> 00:18:55,402
GREGORY: When Mary was born.
276
00:18:55,435 --> 00:18:58,871
The day she was born,
Joc and I went to the hospital
277
00:18:58,905 --> 00:19:01,241
and where looking at her
through the glass.
278
00:19:01,274 --> 00:19:03,476
She's in there
in a bassinet.
279
00:19:03,510 --> 00:19:06,313
Jaco looks at me
and goes, "Gregory",
280
00:19:06,346 --> 00:19:09,449
I got to do something
on that electric bass
that's never been done before."
281
00:19:10,750 --> 00:19:12,852
And he pointed at Mary.
282
00:19:12,885 --> 00:19:15,888
I was like, "Well,
okay I get it."
283
00:19:15,922 --> 00:19:19,459
You know, he's got
to support this kid and...
284
00:19:19,492 --> 00:19:21,928
I mean, you know,
he was a working musician.
285
00:19:21,961 --> 00:19:26,833
But, working musician
around town, that's,
that's tough.
286
00:19:26,866 --> 00:19:29,302
And so, it just,
the way he said it,
287
00:19:29,336 --> 00:19:31,471
I got to do something
that's never been done before.
288
00:19:33,706 --> 00:19:34,741
Well, he did.
289
00:19:36,309 --> 00:19:38,378
[PLAYING BASS GUITAR]
290
00:20:23,323 --> 00:20:24,324
That voice,
291
00:20:27,026 --> 00:20:29,896
was the voice of music,
it was the singer
and the horn.
292
00:20:29,929 --> 00:20:34,033
It's not the rhythm section.
The rhythm section is there
doing the work to support it.
293
00:20:34,066 --> 00:20:36,303
We're the, we're the
setting of that ring.
294
00:20:36,336 --> 00:20:38,438
We made that diamond
shine brilliantly.
295
00:20:40,006 --> 00:20:41,574
In the right setting
the gem is beautiful,
296
00:20:41,608 --> 00:20:44,811
in the wrong setting,
you can't see
the brilliance of it.
297
00:20:46,813 --> 00:20:50,283
So, our job is primarily
to support that stone,
298
00:20:50,317 --> 00:20:52,785
but he was able
to become the stone also.
299
00:21:00,660 --> 00:21:03,663
First thing, was to learn
to melody to every tune.
300
00:21:03,696 --> 00:21:07,434
- Um-hmm.
- Which I feel is like
ultra important.
301
00:21:07,467 --> 00:21:09,702
- Uh-huh.
- The melody
is always designated
302
00:21:09,736 --> 00:21:12,805
let's say to a horn player
the piano or the guitar.
303
00:21:12,839 --> 00:21:15,007
- Um-hm.
- But it's nice to play
it on the bass, too.
304
00:21:15,041 --> 00:21:17,410
Certainly.
And a fretless bass.
305
00:21:17,444 --> 00:21:20,780
The fretless, I, I took
the frets out of my bass
306
00:21:20,813 --> 00:21:24,016
after I was, you know,
getting into jazz a lot
and to have that,
307
00:21:24,050 --> 00:21:27,053
that upright sound, you know,
so I had an upright.
308
00:21:27,086 --> 00:21:30,089
Took me years and years
to get enough bread to get it.
309
00:21:30,122 --> 00:21:32,525
One morning when I woke up,
310
00:21:32,559 --> 00:21:34,394
in the corner the base
is in, like, a hundred pieces,
311
00:21:34,427 --> 00:21:37,597
you know, 'cause the humidity
is so bad, I mean,
the upright just blew up.
312
00:21:37,630 --> 00:21:40,633
I said, "Forget it,
I can't afford this any more,
so I went out",
313
00:21:41,634 --> 00:21:43,570
got a knife,
314
00:21:43,603 --> 00:21:46,973
and took all of, you know,
frets out of my Fender.
That was it.
315
00:21:47,006 --> 00:21:48,341
And the rest
is history.
316
00:21:48,375 --> 00:21:49,376
[BOTH CHUCKLE]
317
00:21:54,046 --> 00:21:55,915
Careful, don't cut yourself.
318
00:21:55,948 --> 00:21:56,983
Don't cut me.
319
00:21:58,418 --> 00:22:00,420
Yeah.
320
00:22:00,453 --> 00:22:03,756
It's closer to the the,
the sound of a voice,
the flexibility of a voice.
321
00:22:03,790 --> 00:22:07,427
The inflections.
This, this adds to,
to sort of a
322
00:22:07,460 --> 00:22:09,962
metallic tone to the,
to the quality to the sound.
323
00:22:09,996 --> 00:22:11,831
That's right,
it's less metallic.
324
00:22:11,864 --> 00:22:12,899
[LAUGHING]
325
00:22:12,932 --> 00:22:14,434
Using a fretless bass
326
00:22:15,468 --> 00:22:18,004
gave the instrument
a resonance
327
00:22:18,037 --> 00:22:21,441
not to similar to a cello.
328
00:22:21,474 --> 00:22:26,613
That resonant rich warm tone
that sounds like a cello.
329
00:22:26,646 --> 00:22:28,915
I think, every bass player
in the world having heard that
330
00:22:28,948 --> 00:22:31,384
was... their world
was suddenly re-calibrated.
331
00:22:32,084 --> 00:22:33,586
What about harmonics?
332
00:22:33,620 --> 00:22:36,556
That's something that you,
like you pioneered.
333
00:22:36,589 --> 00:22:39,358
I mean, this must have
had harmonics on them forever,
but you have like,
334
00:22:40,192 --> 00:22:42,094
almost like you
went to a mine
335
00:22:42,128 --> 00:22:44,664
and you know, gotten gold
out of something
that wasn't there before.
336
00:22:44,697 --> 00:22:46,733
Well, when I was first playing
337
00:22:46,766 --> 00:22:48,635
a friend of mine
338
00:22:48,668 --> 00:22:51,738
I saw him just tuning his guitar
with harmonics
which everybody does and uh,
339
00:22:51,771 --> 00:22:53,540
so I was just doing this,
340
00:22:53,573 --> 00:22:56,543
it sounded like music to me
so I just kept,
kept exploring it.
341
00:22:56,576 --> 00:22:58,578
That's all
there was to it.
342
00:22:58,611 --> 00:23:04,016
He explored the harmonic range
of, of the instrument by,
by playing harmonics
343
00:23:04,050 --> 00:23:08,187
that uh, gave the bass
suddenly a symphonic range.
344
00:23:08,220 --> 00:23:10,457
Which again
was ming blowing.
345
00:23:10,490 --> 00:23:11,724
[PLAYING BASS GUITAR]
346
00:23:51,531 --> 00:23:54,967
I think they gave me
a cassette of Jaco playing.
347
00:23:55,001 --> 00:23:59,772
And I'm listening
to this wondering
who in the heck is this?
348
00:23:59,806 --> 00:24:01,474
Nobody plays like this.
349
00:24:03,009 --> 00:24:04,176
I was hard to describe.
350
00:24:06,713 --> 00:24:10,617
Jaco, married to Tracy
with his two kids
John and Mary.
351
00:24:10,650 --> 00:24:14,721
Definitely a family man,
almost like uh, like uh
like a farmer.
352
00:24:17,757 --> 00:24:22,495
His own personality
is so in much what he does.
353
00:24:22,529 --> 00:24:24,764
You're not even aware
of the influences.
354
00:24:24,797 --> 00:24:26,232
You're hearing something new.
355
00:24:28,568 --> 00:24:31,671
What I heard was him.
356
00:24:31,704 --> 00:24:35,942
And that's one of
the most important elements
that a musician must have.
357
00:24:40,913 --> 00:24:45,017
Jaco had developed
his own sound.
358
00:24:59,832 --> 00:25:01,267
[UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYING]
359
00:25:15,682 --> 00:25:17,550
[MAN VOCALIZING]
360
00:25:17,584 --> 00:25:22,288
* There's days in my life
When I drift through my mind
361
00:25:22,321 --> 00:25:26,693
* Thinking about the good times
The kind I left behind
362
00:25:26,726 --> 00:25:28,961
* Next, I'm aware...
363
00:25:28,995 --> 00:25:31,731
This was I think, 1974.
364
00:25:31,764 --> 00:25:33,265
My band was
Blood, Sweat and Tears.
365
00:25:33,299 --> 00:25:35,201
He was doing
a residency down there,
366
00:25:35,234 --> 00:25:37,937
a Bachelors III
in Fort Lauderdale.
367
00:25:37,970 --> 00:25:40,239
[CHATTERING]
368
00:25:40,272 --> 00:25:44,644
The softball team
for Bachelors III
asked me to play
369
00:25:44,677 --> 00:25:49,081
and center field was a blond
woman and she had her mid
on and her hands on her knees.
370
00:25:49,115 --> 00:25:51,183
She went, "Badder, badder,
hey, badder, badder!"
371
00:25:51,217 --> 00:25:53,953
I just said, "Who are you?"
And she said, "Oh, I'm Tracy."
372
00:25:53,986 --> 00:25:56,355
I said, "Well, how are you
affiliated with this group?"
373
00:25:56,388 --> 00:25:58,991
She said, "Well, I work at
the club." I said, "I never
saw you at the club."
374
00:25:59,025 --> 00:26:01,327
She said, "I don't hang out
much, I just kinda go home."
375
00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:04,664
And she was really cute,
really, really sweet girl.
376
00:26:04,697 --> 00:26:07,600
I said, "Are you married?"
And she said, "Yes."
377
00:26:07,634 --> 00:26:12,104
Uh... Pause.
"To the greatest bass
player in the world!"
378
00:26:12,138 --> 00:26:16,308
This fellow shows up,
thin guy with kind of
plastic glasses.
379
00:26:16,342 --> 00:26:19,378
And he said, "I'm
Tracy's husband, Jaco."
380
00:26:19,411 --> 00:26:22,281
I said, "Oh. I understand
you're the greatest bass
player in the world."
381
00:26:22,314 --> 00:26:25,652
He said, "I am."
And I went, "Okay."
382
00:26:25,685 --> 00:26:28,287
And then of course,
the arrogant New York
side of me came out.
383
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,024
And I said, "Well, why
don't you get your bass
and just play a little bit?"
384
00:26:32,058 --> 00:26:33,926
Just play."
385
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,765
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
386
00:26:38,798 --> 00:26:42,869
He played Donna Lee,
that's a Charlie Parker
song with a solo.
387
00:26:42,902 --> 00:26:48,708
[PLAYING THE SAXOPHONE]
388
00:26:48,741 --> 00:26:51,610
[PLAYING THE DRUMS]
389
00:26:52,411 --> 00:26:57,383
[PLAYING THE SAXOPHONE]
390
00:26:59,351 --> 00:27:03,322
He played it with the facility
and the phrasing
391
00:27:03,355 --> 00:27:07,059
and nuance as
a saxophone player.
392
00:27:07,093 --> 00:27:09,729
He wouldn't go...
[VOCALIZING]
393
00:27:09,762 --> 00:27:11,664
He'd go...
[VOCALIZING]
394
00:27:11,698 --> 00:27:14,901
Which I had never heard
before in that instrument.
395
00:27:14,934 --> 00:27:18,771
And I said, "You know,
look, I'm gonna try
and get you a record deal."
396
00:27:19,706 --> 00:27:25,077
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
397
00:27:26,813 --> 00:27:28,915
I brought Jaco to New York
398
00:27:28,948 --> 00:27:32,151
and he lived there
with me while we
were doing this album.
399
00:27:32,184 --> 00:27:35,421
Luckily the head of A&R
was a bass player.
400
00:27:35,454 --> 00:27:39,992
And I thought, you know,
there is no one that's
gonna hear this who plays
401
00:27:40,026 --> 00:27:42,128
a stringed instrument
that isn't gonna go,
402
00:27:42,161 --> 00:27:45,998
"All right. Let's just start
all over and figure out
what's going on."
403
00:27:46,032 --> 00:27:48,901
And Jaco had a tremendous
sense of loyalty.
404
00:27:48,935 --> 00:27:51,270
His friends in Florida
meant a lot to him.
405
00:27:51,303 --> 00:27:55,041
And he wanted to keep them
involved as much as possible.
406
00:27:55,074 --> 00:27:59,746
He comes to my house
and he says, "We got signed!"
407
00:27:59,779 --> 00:28:04,851
As soon as he said "we"
like we was like Simon
and Garfunkel or something.
408
00:28:04,884 --> 00:28:07,219
He said, "Come on, you gotta
fly up here to New York."
409
00:28:07,253 --> 00:28:11,090
And he says, "Do not come
up if you're not gonna deliver."
410
00:28:11,123 --> 00:28:15,127
He didn't tell me a lot of
what we were walking into.
411
00:28:15,161 --> 00:28:19,031
My first day there, I walk
into Columbia Studios,
412
00:28:19,065 --> 00:28:21,200
Hubert Laws is
the first one I see
413
00:28:21,233 --> 00:28:24,170
and then I turn
and there's Lenny White
sitting by the drums,
414
00:28:24,203 --> 00:28:28,040
and Jaco's eyes have
lit up 'cause he knows
he's found home.
415
00:28:28,074 --> 00:28:30,743
This is the level
that he belongs on.
416
00:28:30,777 --> 00:28:35,748
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
417
00:28:35,782 --> 00:28:39,752
Word got out really fast
around the New York scene.
418
00:28:39,786 --> 00:28:45,157
Jaco was able to handpick
whoever he wanted.
419
00:28:45,191 --> 00:28:48,895
If you look at the pictures,
from that recording,
420
00:28:48,928 --> 00:28:53,199
my hair was all over my head
and you know, it was wild.
421
00:28:53,232 --> 00:28:58,270
And basically, what would
happen is, we would go
play, take a take,
422
00:28:58,304 --> 00:29:00,406
and go outside
and play basketball.
423
00:29:00,439 --> 00:29:02,441
I mean, we could have
done this on bicycles
424
00:29:02,474 --> 00:29:04,977
with microphones and he
would have played it perfectly.
425
00:29:05,011 --> 00:29:08,848
I don't think there were
a lot of takes on anything.
And there were no expectations.
426
00:29:08,881 --> 00:29:13,252
This wasn't a hit record,
pop radio, sort of thing.
427
00:29:13,285 --> 00:29:19,792
My goal was to bring
Jaco to as many people
as humanely possible.
428
00:29:19,826 --> 00:29:25,164
To just have them listen
and recognize this genius.
429
00:29:25,197 --> 00:29:29,568
And then from there, whatever
happens, happens but that's
the goal of a first record.
430
00:29:29,601 --> 00:29:31,570
And that's what
I wanted to happen
431
00:29:31,603 --> 00:29:34,473
and I'm absolutely confident
that's exactly what happened.
432
00:29:36,108 --> 00:29:42,781
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
433
00:29:44,183 --> 00:29:47,019
Everybody was interested
in working for Jaco.
434
00:29:47,053 --> 00:29:49,055
I went over there
with Ronson.
435
00:29:49,088 --> 00:29:50,923
"We've got to see
this guy, you know."
436
00:29:50,957 --> 00:29:55,127
And Jaco just sat us up there
in Bobby's house playing...
437
00:29:55,161 --> 00:29:59,598
Kind of like a performing
seal or something.
438
00:29:59,631 --> 00:30:02,801
Enormous ego, but innocent.
439
00:30:04,503 --> 00:30:06,405
He was 21 years old
at that point.
440
00:30:06,438 --> 00:30:09,909
He knew about dope,
he knew about all that stuff.
He was too clever for that.
441
00:30:09,942 --> 00:30:12,378
He would sit on top
of a hill and meditate.
442
00:30:12,411 --> 00:30:16,448
He had it all down, you know.
443
00:30:16,482 --> 00:30:20,552
I'm just about to do
All American Alien Boy
so he said, "I'll do that."
444
00:30:20,586 --> 00:30:24,156
He was totally immersed
in whatever he did.
445
00:30:24,190 --> 00:30:25,958
In my case, it was the record
I was doing.
446
00:30:25,992 --> 00:30:30,029
But like three months later,
he was totally immersed
in something else.
447
00:30:30,062 --> 00:30:32,932
* Well I was born
On the line
448
00:30:32,965 --> 00:30:35,367
* And I was raised
On the line
449
00:30:35,401 --> 00:30:38,037
* Oh, I was schooled
On the line
450
00:30:38,070 --> 00:30:40,372
* And I was fazed
On the line
451
00:30:40,406 --> 00:30:42,909
* And I was used
On the line
452
00:30:42,942 --> 00:30:45,211
* And I was dazed
On the line
453
00:30:45,244 --> 00:30:47,980
* Just had to split
Off the line
454
00:30:48,014 --> 00:30:50,516
* 'Cause I was crazed
Off the line
455
00:30:50,549 --> 00:30:53,319
* But I remember
All the good times
456
00:30:53,352 --> 00:30:55,988
* Me 'n Miller enjoyed
457
00:30:56,022 --> 00:31:00,392
* Up and down the M1
In some luminous yo-yo toy
458
00:31:00,426 --> 00:31:03,062
* But the future has to change
459
00:31:03,095 --> 00:31:05,364
* And to change
I've got to destroy
460
00:31:05,397 --> 00:31:08,067
* Oh look out Lennon
Here I come
461
00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:10,036
* Land ahoy-hoy-hoy
462
00:31:10,069 --> 00:31:14,606
* All American Alien Boy
All American Alien Boy
463
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:19,445
* All American Alien Boy
All American Alien Boy
464
00:31:19,478 --> 00:31:24,483
* All American Alien Boy
All American Alien Boy *
465
00:31:34,726 --> 00:31:39,498
Hello. Tonight's South Bank
Shows are filled with American
jazz band, Weather Report.
466
00:31:39,531 --> 00:31:46,105
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
467
00:31:46,138 --> 00:31:48,975
NARRATOR: Josef Zawinul
was born in 1932.
468
00:31:49,008 --> 00:31:51,343
And he grew up
in a village in Vienna woods.
469
00:31:51,377 --> 00:31:54,413
His music still draws on
his memories in Austria.
470
00:31:54,446 --> 00:31:57,984
There was a guy,
he played the piano and
he played something, uh...
471
00:31:58,017 --> 00:32:01,153
I never heard even
the name... Jazz.
472
00:32:01,187 --> 00:32:03,289
But there was something
about the name jazz...
473
00:32:03,322 --> 00:32:05,424
And I was kind of ego
tripping on this.
474
00:32:05,457 --> 00:32:08,260
You know, I said, J-A-Z-Z,
475
00:32:08,294 --> 00:32:13,032
somehow I saw,
I saw my name in there.
476
00:32:13,065 --> 00:32:15,134
NARRATOR: Zawinul began
with Wayne Shorter
477
00:32:15,167 --> 00:32:17,703
in Miles Davis' great
band of 1969.
478
00:32:17,736 --> 00:32:20,139
At that time, Davis was
gathering a number
479
00:32:20,172 --> 00:32:21,974
of the most talented
young musicians around him.
480
00:32:22,008 --> 00:32:26,545
Men like John McLaughlin,
Herbie Hancock, Tony Williams
and Chick Corea.
481
00:32:26,578 --> 00:32:30,682
Together, they were forging
a completely new kind
of electronic jazz.
482
00:32:32,651 --> 00:32:36,155
In getting into the 1970s,
483
00:32:36,188 --> 00:32:40,292
and we knew there was
a hell of a change happening,
484
00:32:40,326 --> 00:32:43,029
and that we would be
somehow responsible for it.
485
00:32:46,265 --> 00:32:51,070
When we went to Florida,
we were leaving a theater
and walking down a street.
486
00:32:51,103 --> 00:32:54,473
Someone from Florida
walking with us said,
487
00:32:54,506 --> 00:32:59,745
"The guy Jaco is right behind
you, he's right behind you."
488
00:33:01,047 --> 00:33:03,015
Jaco brought his album
489
00:33:03,049 --> 00:33:05,784
and he'll throw it
as a Frisbee to Joe...
490
00:33:05,817 --> 00:33:08,154
And say, "Hey Joe,
check this out! Ba!"
491
00:33:08,187 --> 00:33:12,624
You know, throw it like that.
And Joe, um, got it.
492
00:33:12,658 --> 00:33:15,194
Then he said, "By the way,
I wanna introduced myself",
493
00:33:15,227 --> 00:33:18,064
"My name is
John Francis Pastorius III,
494
00:33:18,097 --> 00:33:20,699
I'm the greatest bass
player in the world."
495
00:33:20,732 --> 00:33:24,403
And I said,
"Get the fuck outta here."
496
00:33:24,436 --> 00:33:26,638
I mean, that's the way
I said it.
497
00:33:28,574 --> 00:33:31,443
That evening after
we finished playing,
498
00:33:31,477 --> 00:33:33,679
I can hear music coming
out of a room,
499
00:33:33,712 --> 00:33:36,648
I kinda stop,
and it's Joe's room.
500
00:33:36,682 --> 00:33:39,185
You know, I peep in
and I... I didn't see Jaco,
501
00:33:39,218 --> 00:33:43,155
I saw his back, his back
was to the door, but I could
hear this recording and I go,
502
00:33:43,189 --> 00:33:46,458
"Wow, who's that?" you know?
So Joe said,
503
00:33:46,492 --> 00:33:51,230
"Come in, come in.
I want you to meet this guy.
He's a bad motherfucker."
504
00:33:51,263 --> 00:33:57,336
So he introduced me to Jaco
and listened to the record.
It was incredible.
505
00:33:57,369 --> 00:34:00,472
I started putting two
and two together, you know?
[LAUGHING]
506
00:34:00,506 --> 00:34:03,375
Here's this phenomenal
bass player Joe's interested in,
507
00:34:03,409 --> 00:34:05,777
what are my chances of
my being around much longer?
508
00:34:05,811 --> 00:34:11,083
So I just kind of went for
the other gig and just
worked out perfect.
509
00:34:12,651 --> 00:34:16,455
All of a sudden, here come
the news, Alphonse Johnson,
510
00:34:16,488 --> 00:34:18,790
gonna quit the band
because he's gonna make
511
00:34:18,824 --> 00:34:21,527
George Duke and
Billy Cobham, a band.
512
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,530
It was July, 1975 exactly.
513
00:34:24,563 --> 00:34:28,167
We just came back from Boston,
Cannonball Adderley had died.
514
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,502
It was a very hard thing
for me.
515
00:34:30,536 --> 00:34:33,305
And I wrote a song which
is called, Cannonball.
516
00:34:33,339 --> 00:34:35,741
I had this little melody
in the beginning,
517
00:34:35,774 --> 00:34:40,179
which I thought this guy's
tone would be perfect for
this kind of thing, you know?
518
00:34:40,212 --> 00:34:42,748
So we started writing
this particular tune.
519
00:34:42,781 --> 00:34:46,552
And in the beginning,
he was busy, you know?
520
00:34:46,585 --> 00:34:48,554
So I just stopped the band
for a minute
521
00:34:48,587 --> 00:34:52,424
and I said, "You know what?
We already know you can play."
522
00:34:52,458 --> 00:34:57,129
"Forget about that.
You are here with us now,
you know better now.
523
00:34:57,163 --> 00:34:59,631
You have a beautiful tone,
use that tone."
524
00:34:59,665 --> 00:35:03,369
And what happened at that
point is on the record.
525
00:35:04,503 --> 00:35:10,509
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
526
00:35:23,555 --> 00:35:27,826
Joe told me he wanted that
Florida sound on Cannonball.
527
00:35:27,859 --> 00:35:31,830
- That Florida sound.
- Yeah.
528
00:35:31,863 --> 00:35:38,704
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
529
00:35:40,539 --> 00:35:43,242
For Wayne and me,
he was the third.
530
00:35:43,275 --> 00:35:45,211
You know if
you have a triangle,
531
00:35:45,244 --> 00:35:48,614
this was three
forceful personalities.
532
00:35:48,647 --> 00:35:53,485
Totally different
and nobody giving an inch.
533
00:35:53,519 --> 00:35:57,389
Joe, when we finished
that tune, he called his wife.
534
00:35:57,423 --> 00:36:02,394
"Maxine, Maxine, please
tell so and so to cook tonight,
535
00:36:02,428 --> 00:36:05,264
"blah, blah, bring
a lot of food and wine
and this and that.
536
00:36:05,297 --> 00:36:07,899
"We're having
a banquet tonight because
we're gonna celebrate.
537
00:36:07,933 --> 00:36:09,901
A new guy has come, a genius."
538
00:36:09,935 --> 00:36:15,741
And Jaco right there told
Joe, "I need to talk to the
managers of Weather Report."
539
00:36:15,774 --> 00:36:18,210
And Jaco talked to them,
540
00:36:18,244 --> 00:36:23,349
"Okay, I wanna know if I can
put one song in the album?"
541
00:36:23,382 --> 00:36:25,551
And they laugh at him.
542
00:36:25,584 --> 00:36:28,287
They guys were telling
him on the phone, they said,
543
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,656
"Hey Weather Report
out of recording...
544
00:36:30,689 --> 00:36:32,624
Those are the best writers
in the whole world!"
545
00:36:32,658 --> 00:36:37,329
I said, "That's right
but I want to put
a tune in there."
546
00:36:37,363 --> 00:36:40,932
And that's uh...
[VOCALIZING]
547
00:36:44,903 --> 00:36:51,910
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
548
00:36:58,617 --> 00:37:01,019
He knew how serious it is
549
00:37:01,052 --> 00:37:03,522
to leave a piece of your soul
550
00:37:03,555 --> 00:37:05,791
in a recording 'cause
it's gonna stay there forever.
551
00:37:12,898 --> 00:37:17,269
It's not about bass playing.
He was being a storyteller.
552
00:37:17,303 --> 00:37:20,539
We said we played music
with hills and valleys
553
00:37:20,572 --> 00:37:23,809
and streams
and confrontations.
554
00:37:28,314 --> 00:37:31,983
People think that playing
jazz is just a couple
of chords, you know.
555
00:37:32,017 --> 00:37:34,019
They call
Earth, Wind and Fire jazz,
556
00:37:34,052 --> 00:37:36,322
and they call Kenny,
cheap jazz.
557
00:37:36,355 --> 00:37:38,290
It's not, it's deeper
than that.
558
00:37:42,628 --> 00:37:48,900
Jazz is a challenge to
improvise and be in the moment.
559
00:37:48,934 --> 00:37:51,837
That one moment
equals eternity.
560
00:37:55,374 --> 00:37:58,777
The sound of the music
that is produced
561
00:37:58,810 --> 00:38:02,614
is really the greatness
of the human being.
562
00:38:04,383 --> 00:38:10,989
[BASS MUSIC PLAYING]
563
00:38:26,372 --> 00:38:32,344
[APPLAUDING]
564
00:38:32,378 --> 00:38:35,714
[CLAPPING AND WHISTLING]
565
00:38:38,417 --> 00:38:41,687
We were just new, it was fresh,
there was nothing like it.
566
00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:45,023
You know, and we were
all like, "Man, Jaco, man!
It was like..."
567
00:38:45,056 --> 00:38:48,794
It's like going to a game
and you're rooting for,
you know, Michael Jordan.
568
00:38:48,827 --> 00:38:54,400
You know, it's impossible
or difficult not to like
someone who
569
00:38:54,433 --> 00:38:57,536
uh, we all identify
with at that point.
570
00:38:57,569 --> 00:38:58,970
You know, we're all
rooting for him.
571
00:38:59,004 --> 00:39:03,842
It pushed the envelope.
It pushed you to do your best.
572
00:39:03,875 --> 00:39:09,681
And I think, uh, in doing that,
it helped push that whole era
573
00:39:09,715 --> 00:39:12,784
in reaching and there
was no boundaries.
574
00:39:12,818 --> 00:39:16,522
It was like, "Wow, if
he could do that, then
maybe I can do this."
575
00:39:16,555 --> 00:39:17,889
I'm gonna take you
there, baby. Got ya!
576
00:39:17,923 --> 00:39:23,529
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
577
00:39:23,562 --> 00:39:28,567
There was a musical
movement going on.
And we were in it.
578
00:39:29,968 --> 00:39:32,471
So google it, baby.
[GIGGLES]
579
00:39:33,705 --> 00:39:40,512
[BASS PIANO MUSIC PLAYING]
580
00:39:43,915 --> 00:39:47,719
A lot of promotion,
sold out shows
across the country.
581
00:39:47,753 --> 00:39:50,622
Uh, people going crazy.
It was really exciting.
582
00:39:52,023 --> 00:39:54,693
'Cause prior to that,
that didn't exist.
583
00:39:54,726 --> 00:39:59,631
You know, rock was rock
and jazz was jazz, there
wasn't a lot of fusion going on.
584
00:40:01,933 --> 00:40:08,006
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
585
00:40:09,908 --> 00:40:12,844
Back then, you went
to see Van Halen
586
00:40:12,878 --> 00:40:15,547
and then you would
go see Jaco Pastorius
587
00:40:15,581 --> 00:40:18,550
with the Weather Report
or Stanley Clark with
Weather Returned Forever.
588
00:40:18,584 --> 00:40:21,853
It was the outrageous
virtuosity.
589
00:40:21,887 --> 00:40:28,059
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
590
00:40:28,093 --> 00:40:31,730
[VOCALIZING]
You know, like playing
all this crazy shit.
591
00:40:31,763 --> 00:40:33,632
And I was a kid
and I was just like,
592
00:40:33,665 --> 00:40:37,068
"This guy is the coolest
motherfucker that ever lived!"
593
00:40:37,102 --> 00:40:40,572
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
594
00:40:40,606 --> 00:40:43,509
The so called jazz police
were having fits.
595
00:40:43,542 --> 00:40:46,945
These same people that were
going to Ozzy Osbourne
concerts,
596
00:40:46,978 --> 00:40:50,048
were now coming to see
Returned Forever and
Weather Report.
597
00:40:50,081 --> 00:40:54,019
And you go out there
and you play everything
at 99 miles an hour,
598
00:40:54,052 --> 00:40:56,922
as loud and as fast
as you can.
599
00:40:56,955 --> 00:41:03,895
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
600
00:41:11,670 --> 00:41:16,742
[BASS DRUMS MUSIC PLAYING]
601
00:41:19,545 --> 00:41:23,715
[BASS PIANO MUSIC PLAYING]
602
00:41:23,749 --> 00:41:28,554
[BASS SAXOPHONE MUSIC PLAYING]
603
00:41:32,758 --> 00:41:39,264
The band hired me pretty much,
just purely on the strength
of Jaco's recommendation.
604
00:41:39,297 --> 00:41:44,002
Jaco and I were half
the age of Joe and Wayne.
605
00:41:44,035 --> 00:41:46,638
We were the kids
and we were the elders.
606
00:41:46,672 --> 00:41:52,143
And yet Joe and Jaco
would compete like brothers.
607
00:41:52,177 --> 00:41:57,616
He could go toe to toe with
Zawinul where anyone
else would fear to tread.
608
00:41:58,950 --> 00:42:05,290
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
609
00:42:06,191 --> 00:42:11,997
[APPLAUDING]
610
00:42:14,666 --> 00:42:18,069
- Thank you.
- [CHEERING]
611
00:42:18,103 --> 00:42:22,140
- How you doing?
- [CHEERING]
612
00:42:22,173 --> 00:42:26,812
- That's Peter Erskine!
- [APPLAUDING]
613
00:42:26,845 --> 00:42:29,948
- Jaco Pastorius!
- [APPLAUDING]
614
00:42:29,981 --> 00:42:32,984
- Joseph Zawinul!
- [APPLAUDING]
615
00:42:33,018 --> 00:42:35,053
Joe Zawinul would
come and say,
616
00:42:35,086 --> 00:42:38,657
"Oh man, we are
the greatest band in
the world, man, you know.
617
00:42:38,690 --> 00:42:41,927
"I mean, like please,
everybody's playing this stuff,
618
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,597
but we play it the real deal,
we play good stuff."
619
00:42:45,631 --> 00:42:49,067
And Jaco considered
himself the greatest
bass player in the world.
620
00:42:49,100 --> 00:42:52,671
So he had the greatest bass
player in the world getting
the greatest band in the world.
621
00:42:52,704 --> 00:42:55,273
Oh man, those two...
622
00:42:55,306 --> 00:42:59,044
were like two cobras.
623
00:42:59,077 --> 00:43:03,849
Two cobras in
a very small cage,
624
00:43:03,882 --> 00:43:08,253
with no where to go
but they have to make
this relationship work.
625
00:43:08,286 --> 00:43:11,156
That's what it was like
watching them on stage.
626
00:43:11,189 --> 00:43:14,392
And I can remember,
Zawinul with his speed
627
00:43:14,425 --> 00:43:19,898
and in between the cracks,
there would be Jaco
with something sick.
628
00:43:19,931 --> 00:43:26,938
- [PLAYING THE PIANO]
- [PLAYING THE BASS GUITAR]
629
00:43:27,939 --> 00:43:32,277
And I remember sitting
there, hearing this
conversation come in and out,
630
00:43:32,310 --> 00:43:36,247
that's when I realized,
"Man, this is like
a boxing match."
631
00:43:40,886 --> 00:43:45,123
It would always
surprise me when
I'd hear him criticize Jaco.
632
00:43:45,156 --> 00:43:49,194
"You know, Jaco sounds
like a trombone sometimes.
633
00:43:49,227 --> 00:43:53,198
You know, teen talents,
this is not really a
Weather Report song."
634
00:43:54,833 --> 00:43:56,534
Jaco hated that.
635
00:43:56,567 --> 00:43:58,904
He didn't want to hang
around for any of that
so he would disappear.
636
00:44:00,872 --> 00:44:03,842
Jaco respected his jazz elders.
637
00:44:03,875 --> 00:44:09,014
And yet, he wasn't above
ruffling their feathers.
638
00:44:09,047 --> 00:44:11,817
In these photos, you can see
Wayne in the background.
639
00:44:11,850 --> 00:44:14,185
He was drinking,
had his cigarette,
he's just watching,
640
00:44:14,219 --> 00:44:19,390
Wayne never said anything,
Joe was doing all the talking.
641
00:44:19,424 --> 00:44:23,762
Jaco used to say,
me and Frank Sinatra,
we're Sagittarians.
642
00:44:23,795 --> 00:44:28,133
I'm a Sag, he's a Sag.
[CHUCKLING]
643
00:44:28,166 --> 00:44:32,303
He met my mother
and said, "You're a Sag!"
644
00:44:32,337 --> 00:44:34,439
My mother said,
"I'm a Sag, too!"
645
00:44:34,472 --> 00:44:40,378
And she always talked about
courage and guts to get through
the damn day and everything.
646
00:44:40,411 --> 00:44:44,916
And, um, she would say
this about Jaco, "That child",
she'll call him "that child".
647
00:44:44,950 --> 00:44:51,189
"That child", she said,
"that child, he knows
what he's talking about."
648
00:44:51,222 --> 00:44:55,226
Then she'll say, "He's mighty
wild though, ain't he?"
649
00:44:55,260 --> 00:45:01,366
His identity in music
and theater was coming out.
650
00:45:01,399 --> 00:45:06,104
That's what Jaco had,
a history, not just a library
but a history,
651
00:45:06,137 --> 00:45:11,777
of being open and not
shutting out many
kinds of music.
652
00:45:11,810 --> 00:45:14,813
The bass almost
became incidental.
653
00:45:19,851 --> 00:45:26,157
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
654
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:42,173
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
655
00:45:58,990 --> 00:46:03,829
[APPLAUDING]
656
00:46:03,862 --> 00:46:10,301
[BASS TEMPO INCREASES]
657
00:46:10,335 --> 00:46:11,536
[THUD]
658
00:46:11,569 --> 00:46:15,974
[APPLAUDING AND CLAPPING]
659
00:46:16,007 --> 00:46:20,946
[CHEERING AND WHISTLING]
660
00:46:40,031 --> 00:46:43,601
For this next song, I have
to go into a rather funny tune.
661
00:46:43,634 --> 00:46:46,838
This is a song about
a daydreamer.
662
00:46:46,872 --> 00:46:51,910
And daydreaming can
get you into a lot of
difficulties sometimes,
663
00:46:52,510 --> 00:46:54,980
if not used properly.
664
00:46:55,013 --> 00:46:59,350
[GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
665
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,322
[JOAN SINGING]
666
00:47:04,355 --> 00:47:10,128
It took me a long time
to find a rhythm section
that could play my music.
667
00:47:10,161 --> 00:47:11,897
So I went through
a lot of players,
668
00:47:11,930 --> 00:47:13,431
I'll put them on the record
and take them off.
669
00:47:13,464 --> 00:47:16,601
So it was until
my sixth album,
670
00:47:16,634 --> 00:47:21,139
that one of the guys
in this section, Ruskunkel,
the drummer said to me,
671
00:47:21,172 --> 00:47:26,211
"Joannie, you know,
you're gonna have to
play with jazz musicians."
672
00:47:26,244 --> 00:47:28,546
I heard this guy, he played
what he was gonna play
673
00:47:28,579 --> 00:47:31,149
and I said, "Well, could
you play this note?"
674
00:47:31,182 --> 00:47:34,119
And he went, "I'm not
playing that. That's not
the route of the chord."
675
00:47:34,152 --> 00:47:36,955
I said, "Well, it will be
when you play it. I mean..."
676
00:47:36,988 --> 00:47:39,925
And he rebelled on another
issue and finally he said,
677
00:47:39,958 --> 00:47:43,361
"There's this really weird
bass player in Florida
678
00:47:43,394 --> 00:47:46,231
you'd probably like him."
679
00:47:46,264 --> 00:47:48,900
I said, "Well, would
he play these things
I'm asking you?"
680
00:47:48,934 --> 00:47:52,237
"He's already doing
that weird stuff." Right?
681
00:47:52,270 --> 00:47:55,173
So I sent for Jaco,
excited on seeing him.
682
00:47:56,341 --> 00:48:03,014
[SERENE INSTRUMENTAL
MUSIC PLAYING]
683
00:48:17,028 --> 00:48:20,331
* I'm traveling in some vehicle
684
00:48:23,234 --> 00:48:27,438
* I'm sitting in some cafe
685
00:48:27,472 --> 00:48:31,576
* A defector
From the petty wars
686
00:48:31,609 --> 00:48:34,345
* That shell shock love away...
687
00:48:34,379 --> 00:48:37,515
[BASS GUITAR PLAYING]
688
00:48:37,548 --> 00:48:40,118
I'd set up
this architecture in me,
689
00:48:40,151 --> 00:48:43,554
he just kind of instinctively,
played figuratively...
690
00:48:43,588 --> 00:48:48,960
You know, you're inviting
another painter to join
you on your canvas.
691
00:48:48,994 --> 00:48:50,661
It's very conversational.
692
00:48:50,695 --> 00:48:52,197
* It's just as natural
693
00:48:52,230 --> 00:48:57,302
* As the weather
in this moody sky today
694
00:49:00,238 --> 00:49:05,443
* In our possessive coupling
695
00:49:05,476 --> 00:49:10,281
* So much could
not be expressed *
696
00:49:10,315 --> 00:49:14,285
Jaco came into work one night
and he said, "Look at my neck."
697
00:49:14,319 --> 00:49:19,324
And I looked at it and on
this side, there was
a bruise and a redness
698
00:49:19,357 --> 00:49:25,363
and a hollow like that...
It looked like it had
been made by a pipe.
699
00:49:25,396 --> 00:49:29,334
And he was driving
home the night before
from the studio,
700
00:49:29,367 --> 00:49:31,102
straight up Sunset Boulevard
701
00:49:31,136 --> 00:49:33,338
to this motel
where he was staying.
702
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,541
And the cops
pulled him over.
703
00:49:36,574 --> 00:49:41,346
And I don't know what
he said to that cop,
but the next thing he knew,
704
00:49:41,379 --> 00:49:45,083
the cop had his pistol
shoved into his throat.
705
00:49:45,116 --> 00:49:50,321
You know, deeply because
the impression of it was
still there 24 hours later.
706
00:49:50,355 --> 00:49:52,590
Or 20 hours later.
707
00:49:52,623 --> 00:49:56,027
And while the cop had
that pistol at his throat,
708
00:49:56,061 --> 00:49:59,230
he said I said to myself,
"It's not my time to die."
709
00:50:01,699 --> 00:50:07,805
And he apparently seemed to
know when his time to die was.
710
00:50:07,838 --> 00:50:11,776
I mean, this was side to him
that not many people
knew about.
711
00:50:11,809 --> 00:50:16,114
I remember he took me
up to the bar in Keio Plaza
to have a drink.
712
00:50:16,147 --> 00:50:20,685
And so we get the Sake
and we have a drink
and he starts crying.
713
00:50:20,718 --> 00:50:24,389
And I said, "Well, what's wrong?
What's wrong, man?"
714
00:50:24,422 --> 00:50:29,127
And he says, "Well, listen,
I'm gonna die when I turn 34."
715
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,163
"And I would like you
to look after my babies."
716
00:50:33,731 --> 00:50:36,501
So I said,
"You got it. You got it."
717
00:50:36,534 --> 00:50:40,071
Sometimes you see things
you don't wanna know.
718
00:50:40,105 --> 00:50:44,109
Especially about yourself.
And this was one of
those times for Jaco.
719
00:50:49,147 --> 00:50:56,121
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
720
00:50:56,154 --> 00:50:59,224
[CHILDREN LAUGHING]
721
00:51:27,285 --> 00:51:32,223
MARY: My vision of my dad
in my mind's eye always
goes to that period.
722
00:51:34,492 --> 00:51:39,830
He has no shirt on,
he's in corduroy
cut-off Levi shorts
723
00:51:39,864 --> 00:51:43,768
and he's barefoot
and his hair's long
and he's tan.
724
00:51:47,905 --> 00:51:54,779
He was so young
when I was born
and he wasn't famous yet.
725
00:51:54,812 --> 00:52:00,351
If he had gigs, you know,
outside Calypso bars,
whatever, we weren't so...
726
00:52:00,385 --> 00:52:02,320
I had him there every day.
727
00:52:04,222 --> 00:52:06,757
- He would point out,
you know, bird sounds...
-[BIRDS CHIRPING]
728
00:52:06,791 --> 00:52:10,195
- Wind blowing through
leaves or chimes.
-[CHIMES TINKLING]
729
00:52:10,228 --> 00:52:12,497
He heard music in everything.
730
00:52:14,765 --> 00:52:17,735
[SEAGULLS SQUAWKING]
731
00:52:22,307 --> 00:52:25,743
It's a gift and I mean,
it's a burden, too.
732
00:52:28,446 --> 00:52:32,283
My father was my hero.
And still is my hero.
733
00:52:32,317 --> 00:52:36,153
You know, every dad
should be their son's hero.
734
00:52:38,323 --> 00:52:40,625
He bought like a Yamaha,
what was it? 750?
735
00:52:40,658 --> 00:52:44,329
-[ENGINE REVVING]
- And we'll just jump on and
ride all the way up the coast.
736
00:52:44,362 --> 00:52:46,731
[ENGINE REVVING]
737
00:52:46,764 --> 00:52:48,799
I would never tell him,
I'm scared.
738
00:52:48,833 --> 00:52:50,000
And I'll be holding on,
terrified,
739
00:52:50,034 --> 00:52:53,338
but holding on,
that's what I miss the most.
740
00:52:53,371 --> 00:52:55,606
[ENGINE REVVING]
741
00:53:00,345 --> 00:53:02,213
I mean,
he was a great dad, man.
742
00:53:02,247 --> 00:53:06,551
I mean, but I know
he wanted to be there more.
743
00:53:08,819 --> 00:53:15,593
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
744
00:53:24,635 --> 00:53:28,439
You know, I remember
postcards he'll always
send to John and Mary.
745
00:53:28,473 --> 00:53:32,477
Every postcard, he'll either
point out the historical fact,
746
00:53:32,510 --> 00:53:36,381
or he'll post a question,
get the kids thinking.
747
00:53:36,414 --> 00:53:38,483
Almost every morning,
without fail.
748
00:53:38,516 --> 00:53:40,418
He knows his important
part of the routine
749
00:53:40,451 --> 00:53:42,887
when we travel,
to find postcards
750
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,290
to get stamps
for those postcards.
751
00:53:47,024 --> 00:53:50,495
Any city we went to,
no matter how tired we were,
752
00:53:50,528 --> 00:53:52,797
we were gonna hit the streets,
we were gonna see
753
00:53:52,830 --> 00:53:57,268
the best that Florence
or Rome or Milan had to offer.
754
00:53:57,302 --> 00:54:00,305
Venice... "Come on,
let's ride in the gondolas."
755
00:54:00,338 --> 00:54:04,675
"Let's go on the canals."
When are we gonna get
a chance to do that?
756
00:54:04,709 --> 00:54:07,578
Um, we had fun.
757
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,950
I never saw him on
those first tours
758
00:54:12,983 --> 00:54:16,587
act high or drunk,
it was all good times.
759
00:54:18,489 --> 00:54:21,959
Um, but it was present.
760
00:54:21,992 --> 00:54:25,630
He was like a kid, you know,
he would do things,
761
00:54:25,663 --> 00:54:30,501
like hide on the bus
while it's moving.
762
00:54:30,535 --> 00:54:35,506
And Zawinul will be looking
for him for 30 minutes
and nobody could find him.
763
00:54:35,540 --> 00:54:39,844
And then he would give
up and then Jaco would
come out laughing.
764
00:54:39,877 --> 00:54:43,681
And these are the kind
of things he would do,
just very playful.
765
00:54:43,714 --> 00:54:45,983
Going on stage,
"No prisoners!"
766
00:54:46,016 --> 00:54:49,687
was the last thing you would
hear him say. "No prisoners!"
767
00:54:50,588 --> 00:54:56,093
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
768
00:54:56,126 --> 00:55:00,565
[ENGINE WHIRRING]
769
00:55:00,598 --> 00:55:03,834
KRIS KRISTOFFERSON:
March, 1979, 200 singers,
770
00:55:03,868 --> 00:55:06,937
musicians and technicians
and 70 tonnes of equipment
771
00:55:06,971 --> 00:55:11,709
to arrive at
Jose Marti airport,
Havana for the Havana jam.
772
00:55:13,378 --> 00:55:15,112
Okay, Havana here we are.
773
00:55:15,145 --> 00:55:18,416
It's really happening for
the first time ever.
774
00:55:18,449 --> 00:55:20,050
Looking out the window
of this car,
775
00:55:20,084 --> 00:55:24,589
I'm feeling more like
Christopher Columbus
than Kris Kristofferson.
776
00:55:24,622 --> 00:55:27,725
The Havana Jam,
Kris Kristofferson,
777
00:55:27,758 --> 00:55:33,498
Rita Coolidge, Stephen Stills,
Billy Joel... It was odd.
778
00:55:33,531 --> 00:55:36,867
Billy Joel and Jaco giving
each other attitude.
779
00:55:36,901 --> 00:55:41,972
With all the bands kind of
there to support each other,
yet were dissing each other.
780
00:55:42,006 --> 00:55:45,443
It's gonna be a face
to face confrontation
between people who
781
00:55:45,476 --> 00:55:49,447
had best only heard
of each other over 90
miles of Caribbean water.
782
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,882
For three nights, the stage
of the Karl Marx Theater
783
00:55:51,916 --> 00:55:54,385
here in Havana, Cuba
will be shared by American
784
00:55:54,419 --> 00:55:57,822
and Cuban musicians
in a unique cultural exchange.
785
00:55:57,855 --> 00:56:00,825
First of its kind
since political, economic
786
00:56:00,858 --> 00:56:04,595
and philosophical
differences separated
our country 20 years ago.
787
00:56:04,629 --> 00:56:06,564
[APPLAUDING]
788
00:56:06,597 --> 00:56:10,601
That distinctive pulse at
the heart of Cuban music
is an African heartbeat.
789
00:56:10,635 --> 00:56:14,104
I think you'll hear
it in the work of
the astonishing Tata Guines.
790
00:56:14,138 --> 00:56:17,508
[CHEERING AND WHISTLING]
791
00:56:17,542 --> 00:56:23,714
[TAPPING ON
THE PERCUSSION DRUMS]
792
00:56:32,590 --> 00:56:38,162
[TAPPING ON
THE PERCUSSION DRUMS]
793
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,471
Jaco was like a kid
getting the autograph
of Tata Guines.
794
00:56:50,808 --> 00:56:57,014
Many of the patterns that
Jaco played on the bass
were really Congo patterns.
795
00:56:57,047 --> 00:57:02,587
You know, Jaco's whole
Florida beat, his whole
Caribbean thing, it's that.
796
00:57:02,620 --> 00:57:06,090
[TAPPING ON
THE PERCUSSION DRUMS]
797
00:57:06,123 --> 00:57:10,895
Coincidentally, I mean,
the Havana Jam was the first
sign of things going wrong.
798
00:57:13,598 --> 00:57:15,800
Jaco got into a thing
799
00:57:15,833 --> 00:57:19,003
with one of the musicians
who was the Fania All-Stars.
800
00:57:19,036 --> 00:57:21,972
I think these guys were
also from Puerto Rico.
801
00:57:22,006 --> 00:57:27,144
And I don't know
if there was some Cuban,
Puerto Rican musical dynamic,
802
00:57:27,177 --> 00:57:34,051
but the guy definitely was
giving Jaco short shrift.
803
00:57:34,819 --> 00:57:39,056
I mean, Jaco almost got
into a fist fight. I think Joe
had to break it up.
804
00:57:39,089 --> 00:57:42,960
And then Jaco lost face
and I think, uh,
805
00:57:42,993 --> 00:57:47,898
part of that mechanism
of his losing face and this
whole humiliation thing,
806
00:57:47,932 --> 00:57:51,035
and it played out
and This Trio of Doom,
807
00:57:51,068 --> 00:57:55,039
which had tremendously
successful rehearsals
in New York.
808
00:57:55,072 --> 00:57:58,509
[BASS MUSIC PLAYING]
809
00:57:58,543 --> 00:58:03,881
It was the buzz talk
of the whole trip,
The Trio of Doom.
810
00:58:03,914 --> 00:58:08,152
The Jazz, rock, whatever
you want to call it were
equivalent to the three tenors.
811
00:58:08,185 --> 00:58:10,721
[CHEERING]
812
00:58:10,755 --> 00:58:14,625
Tonight, we have visiting
Tropicana of a group of
American artists...
813
00:58:14,659 --> 00:58:16,827
It could have been great.
814
00:58:16,861 --> 00:58:22,232
But once Jaco kind of
went into his little
self-destruct mode,
815
00:58:24,268 --> 00:58:28,138
which unfortunately
occurred during their set.
816
00:58:28,172 --> 00:58:31,241
The concert was pretty
much considered a disaster.
817
00:58:31,275 --> 00:58:34,779
I mean, Jaco
was just not himself.
818
00:58:35,713 --> 00:58:37,748
Playing Portrait of Tracy,
819
00:58:37,782 --> 00:58:40,951
and turning the bass
up really loud, just
not playing the tunes.
820
00:58:42,086 --> 00:58:44,622
Tony never forgave him.
821
00:58:44,655 --> 00:58:49,193
And it was an odd pattern.
I mean, whenever Jaco
would lose face somehow,
822
00:58:49,226 --> 00:58:53,063
there would be this
odd acting out.
823
00:58:53,097 --> 00:58:55,866
I don't know what
the dynamics are, you know.
824
00:58:55,900 --> 00:58:59,136
My dad was psychiatrist
and he tried to help Jaco.
825
00:58:59,169 --> 00:59:02,206
Maybe my father didn't
pass along too much
826
00:59:02,239 --> 00:59:04,875
of that wisdom to me but...
827
00:59:04,909 --> 00:59:08,779
You know, there was some
complicated stuff going on.
828
00:59:09,847 --> 00:59:15,552
[APPLAUDING]
829
00:59:16,220 --> 00:59:22,593
[DRUMS BEATING]
830
00:59:23,894 --> 00:59:30,300
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
831
00:59:31,936 --> 00:59:34,338
* Watching the dry cleaner
Do it
832
00:59:34,371 --> 00:59:36,741
* Like Midas
In a polyester suit
833
00:59:36,774 --> 00:59:39,376
* It's all luck!
It's just luck!
834
00:59:39,409 --> 00:59:43,080
* You get a little lucky
And you make a little money! *
835
00:59:43,113 --> 00:59:49,386
[BASS GUITAR PLAYING]
836
00:59:49,419 --> 00:59:54,959
He played in Santa Barbara.
Jaco came out on tour.
He came late for rehearsals,
837
00:59:54,992 --> 00:59:59,997
shoved my mike off the center,
widened his space,
powdered the floor,
838
01:00:00,030 --> 01:00:04,068
and you know, took long solos
where he danced around a lot.
839
01:00:04,101 --> 01:00:10,307
[BASS DRUMS MUSIC PLAYING]
840
01:00:10,340 --> 01:00:16,346
[BASS SAXOPHONE PLAYING]
841
01:00:16,380 --> 01:00:20,851
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
842
01:00:20,885 --> 01:00:23,654
[APPLAUDING]
843
01:00:23,688 --> 01:00:26,056
[LAUGHING]
844
01:00:26,090 --> 01:00:29,026
On bass, Jaco Pastorius!
845
01:00:29,059 --> 01:00:33,063
[CLAPPING AND CHEERING]
846
01:00:33,097 --> 01:00:39,403
In Santa Barbara where
we filmed, his wife and
his mother showed up.
847
01:00:39,436 --> 01:00:42,707
I don't know what those women
did to him in the back room...
[LAUGHING]
848
01:00:42,740 --> 01:00:47,812
But it was a good thing
because when he came out
that night and took his solo,
849
01:00:47,845 --> 01:00:51,448
he opened up by quoting,
I was High and Mighty.
850
01:00:51,481 --> 01:00:56,854
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
851
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,108
It was starting
to fall apart.
852
01:01:18,142 --> 01:01:22,279
Jaco and the kids and Tracy
and fame, and all that.
853
01:01:22,312 --> 01:01:26,283
It was just you know,
some things changing.
854
01:01:28,352 --> 01:01:35,292
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
855
01:01:41,298 --> 01:01:47,271
[APPLAUDING AND CLAPPING]
856
01:01:53,010 --> 01:01:55,279
Jaco took the fame hit.
857
01:01:57,447 --> 01:02:01,518
I can't imagine
walking, you know,
out or doing something,
858
01:02:01,551 --> 01:02:04,822
then all of a sudden,
all these people
congregate around you,
859
01:02:04,855 --> 01:02:07,091
and wanna know you
and talk to you
860
01:02:07,124 --> 01:02:09,927
and be part of you know,
what's going on.
861
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:13,297
I just... It frightens me.
862
01:02:13,330 --> 01:02:17,935
Suddenly, he was entering
some kind of challenges
that didn't exist before.
863
01:02:20,871 --> 01:02:24,775
Certainly, Tracy's relationship
was home for him.
864
01:02:24,809 --> 01:02:27,177
And it pained him
and it saddened him that
865
01:02:27,211 --> 01:02:31,448
that relationship ended,
you know.
866
01:02:31,481 --> 01:02:37,487
I think that was
a huge loss for him.
867
01:02:37,521 --> 01:02:44,361
You know, failure in the life
of a guy who had experienced
so much triumph.
868
01:02:46,563 --> 01:02:51,068
[DRUMS BEATING]
869
01:02:51,101 --> 01:02:58,042
[BASS GUITAR PLAYING]
870
01:02:58,075 --> 01:03:01,545
He was conveying his inner
self on his canvas.
871
01:03:01,578 --> 01:03:04,448
Everything came out
on the instrument
872
01:03:04,481 --> 01:03:07,151
as if he was
on the psychiatrist couch
873
01:03:07,184 --> 01:03:10,354
and revealed everything
about who he was.
874
01:03:10,387 --> 01:03:17,394
[INCREASED THE TEMPO
OF THE BEAT]
875
01:04:15,685 --> 01:04:19,156
[LOUD CHEERING]
876
01:04:19,189 --> 01:04:25,129
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
877
01:04:49,053 --> 01:04:52,522
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
878
01:05:00,064 --> 01:05:01,531
[MUSIC STOPS]
879
01:05:03,133 --> 01:05:08,672
[APPLAUDING AND CLAPPING]
880
01:05:08,705 --> 01:05:12,042
[CHEERING AND WHISTLING]
881
01:05:18,248 --> 01:05:22,019
- [CHILDREN CHATTERING]
- [SEAGULLS SQUAWKING]
882
01:05:22,052 --> 01:05:24,688
CONRAD: So tell me, what
happened with that little tour
with Johnny in the summer?
883
01:05:24,721 --> 01:05:28,258
Did it open up any
new things for you?
884
01:05:28,292 --> 01:05:32,963
JACO: No. No, I'm just doing
my own thing, you know.
885
01:05:32,997 --> 01:05:36,233
CONRAD: No, I mean... But have
you got a project happening?
886
01:05:36,266 --> 01:05:40,670
JACO: I don't know, you know,
'cause, I mean, I'm still
just the side man, you know?
887
01:05:40,704 --> 01:05:43,107
CONRAD: Right.
888
01:05:43,140 --> 01:05:45,542
CONRAD: So is Epic, are you
hanging it up with Epic
889
01:05:45,575 --> 01:05:47,677
or are you gonna try
to renegotiate with them?
890
01:05:47,711 --> 01:05:50,580
JACO: Oh, they're
such assholes,
man, you know, like uh...
891
01:05:50,614 --> 01:05:53,550
CONRAD: Do have a contract
where they've got an option
on your next record?
892
01:05:53,583 --> 01:05:57,421
JACO: Yeah, but that don't
matter to me, you know?
[LAUGHING]
893
01:05:57,454 --> 01:05:59,323
All this legal shit
in the record business
894
01:05:59,356 --> 01:06:02,526
has got to change because
it's 100 percent rip off.
895
01:06:02,559 --> 01:06:05,062
I will never put up
with any of that shit.
896
01:06:05,095 --> 01:06:07,998
I will never get
ripped off like that.
897
01:06:08,032 --> 01:06:12,469
Because I don't care.
I'll just come home
and play baseball all day.
898
01:06:12,502 --> 01:06:15,105
-[LAUGHING]
- Which I do when I'm home,
you know what I mean?
899
01:06:15,139 --> 01:06:18,708
And play basketball
and Frisbee and just
have fun, you know?
900
01:06:20,377 --> 01:06:24,414
The key issues in his life
then were family upheaval.
901
01:06:24,448 --> 01:06:26,783
Big changes in family.
902
01:06:26,816 --> 01:06:30,054
And also,
903
01:06:30,087 --> 01:06:35,425
dissatisfaction with
his established work.
904
01:06:35,459 --> 01:06:42,432
What was on record
so far for him,
left him dissatisfied.
905
01:06:42,466 --> 01:06:46,703
He had married Ingrid and
moved up to Deerfield beach.
906
01:06:49,706 --> 01:06:52,442
We would get
together at 4:00 a.m.
907
01:06:52,476 --> 01:06:56,646
And he wanted to be
recording every morning
when the sun came up.
908
01:06:56,680 --> 01:07:01,218
He obviously had compositional
ideas that were...
909
01:07:01,251 --> 01:07:04,588
There's a lot of hints
of those on the first record.
910
01:07:04,621 --> 01:07:08,658
Okonkole y Trompa,
it's just a masterpiece.
911
01:07:08,692 --> 01:07:10,760
It's almost classical music.
912
01:07:16,633 --> 01:07:20,637
He had things to show people
that they'd never heard before.
913
01:07:22,772 --> 01:07:25,742
They were in his head
for quite a while.
914
01:07:27,444 --> 01:07:30,147
People realized that this is...
915
01:07:30,180 --> 01:07:32,749
We don't know what this is.
916
01:07:34,251 --> 01:07:35,619
Show us.
917
01:07:37,221 --> 01:07:43,260
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
918
01:08:05,682 --> 01:08:08,485
I mean, there was
a buzz on Jaco, of course.
919
01:08:08,518 --> 01:08:11,755
Here's a guy that could
write, that could arrange,
that could play.
920
01:08:11,788 --> 01:08:13,523
He was a collaborator.
921
01:08:13,557 --> 01:08:18,428
It was apparent to some
of us that this guy was
really something special.
922
01:08:18,462 --> 01:08:20,096
And in addition to being
something special
923
01:08:20,130 --> 01:08:23,833
had the potential really,
you know, to break
through and cross over.
924
01:08:23,867 --> 01:08:28,538
We set out on, really kind
of a quest to get Jaco to
come to Warner Brothers.
925
01:08:28,572 --> 01:08:31,808
It was a start level deal,
make no mistake about it.
926
01:08:31,841 --> 01:08:34,744
And because the record
business is a business,
927
01:08:34,778 --> 01:08:38,382
expectations, you know,
tend to follow the deal.
928
01:08:38,415 --> 01:08:44,754
If you sign an act for
$75,000, your expectations,
you know, are at one level,
929
01:08:44,788 --> 01:08:47,424
if you sign an act
for four times that...
930
01:08:47,457 --> 01:08:53,230
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
931
01:09:05,642 --> 01:09:09,513
He said,
"You know what dub is?"
932
01:09:09,546 --> 01:09:16,520
And I said, "I believe
I do. Yeah, I know,
it's like the old reggae",
933
01:09:16,553 --> 01:09:19,356
the guy dropping
the fader, talking over you..."
934
01:09:19,389 --> 01:09:21,425
He goes, "Yeah, it's gonna be
a little different than that."
935
01:09:21,458 --> 01:09:26,796
He said, "We're not
gonna let anybody hear
anyone else's parts."
936
01:09:26,830 --> 01:09:30,767
Whatever happens,
let's see if it fits."
937
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:35,405
It had a life of it's own.
It really grew powerfully.
938
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:41,845
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
939
01:09:54,458 --> 01:09:58,295
It's very rare that any record
has a piece on it like this.
940
01:09:58,328 --> 01:10:01,598
Pablo Picasso Guernica,
Jaco Pastorius' Crisis.
941
01:10:01,631 --> 01:10:03,800
I mean, they are
of the same cloth.
942
01:10:05,034 --> 01:10:10,874
[BASS GUITAR MUSIC PLAYING]
943
01:10:14,944 --> 01:10:17,481
He wanted to open
the record with this.
944
01:10:17,514 --> 01:10:19,148
I mean, there are a lot of
people at the company,
945
01:10:19,182 --> 01:10:21,418
if they'd heard this
track, they'll just pull
their hair out and said,
946
01:10:21,451 --> 01:10:22,752
"Wait a minute,
we can't even have this.
947
01:10:22,786 --> 01:10:24,053
"This is crazy.
It's a cacophony.
948
01:10:24,087 --> 01:10:26,990
It's a atonal. Nobody
can follow it. It's scary."
949
01:10:27,023 --> 01:10:28,725
I'm shaking right now
as I think about it.
950
01:10:28,758 --> 01:10:31,561
I was kind of scared
of the idea of it
opening the record.
951
01:10:31,595 --> 01:10:32,762
They pleaded with him.
952
01:10:32,796 --> 01:10:34,631
They said, "Any of it
to him about that."
953
01:10:34,664 --> 01:10:37,367
"We can't get this
album onto radio
954
01:10:37,401 --> 01:10:39,603
if that's the first track."
955
01:10:39,636 --> 01:10:42,739
I think it really
made him very happy
956
01:10:42,772 --> 01:10:45,241
to think of this
going on a record.
957
01:10:48,011 --> 01:10:51,381
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
958
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:59,055
I would say that
he was venting.
959
01:10:59,088 --> 01:11:02,426
He was venting little bit
of personal frustration.
960
01:11:03,627 --> 01:11:04,994
And then he realizes
961
01:11:05,028 --> 01:11:07,931
that it's the only way
to start a record like this.
962
01:11:07,964 --> 01:11:09,733
You know,
it's to make people
963
01:11:09,766 --> 01:11:11,801
wonder what's coming.
964
01:11:11,835 --> 01:11:15,539
And then what comes
is so different.
965
01:11:15,572 --> 01:11:18,642
[PIANO MUSIC PLAYING]
966
01:11:49,138 --> 01:11:50,707
The Word of Mouth album
967
01:11:50,740 --> 01:11:53,943
was so revealing
of Jaco as a person.
968
01:11:53,977 --> 01:11:56,079
It was almost
969
01:11:56,112 --> 01:12:00,016
embarrassing to listen to it,
it was so intimidate at times.
970
01:12:00,049 --> 01:12:02,652
And it was
the most courageous
971
01:12:02,686 --> 01:12:06,623
things ever done,
it was the most
daring thing he's done.
972
01:12:06,656 --> 01:12:08,825
It's Jaco's
internal thing,
973
01:12:08,858 --> 01:12:11,027
to real cure
with euphorias.
974
01:12:12,729 --> 01:12:18,568
[JOHN AND MARY PLAYING]
975
01:12:55,639 --> 01:12:57,974
There were some people
that were less than
976
01:12:58,007 --> 01:13:00,076
thrilled about this, they
thought, "Aw, wait a minute."
977
01:13:00,109 --> 01:13:01,578
"This is like
the switch arrow.
978
01:13:01,611 --> 01:13:03,146
"He signed this guy
to make these
979
01:13:03,179 --> 01:13:06,816
big hit fusion records
and now he's doing
this thing over here."
980
01:13:06,850 --> 01:13:07,851
Um...
981
01:13:08,885 --> 01:13:12,889
I know how comfortable
he was with the concept.
982
01:13:12,922 --> 01:13:16,159
How good he felt about
what he was doing,
that it was right.
983
01:13:20,930 --> 01:13:25,902
Label had never
quite really acknowledged
984
01:13:25,935 --> 01:13:28,171
the master work it was.
985
01:13:28,204 --> 01:13:31,741
And it hurt Jaco
deeply to tears.
986
01:13:31,775 --> 01:13:34,210
It really did hurt him.
987
01:13:34,243 --> 01:13:37,614
I remember Jaco,
really needing
Joe's approval.
988
01:13:37,647 --> 01:13:40,917
And we would
call him on the phone.
989
01:13:40,950 --> 01:13:44,454
And play the tape,
with the phone held up.
990
01:13:44,488 --> 01:13:46,055
All the time.
991
01:13:46,089 --> 01:13:48,858
And it was often,
992
01:13:48,892 --> 01:13:50,994
the end of the day session.
993
01:13:51,027 --> 01:13:55,765
Because Joe will be
cruelly dismissive.
994
01:13:55,799 --> 01:13:59,469
I kind of wanted
to say to Jaco,
"Let's not call Joe today."
995
01:14:01,004 --> 01:14:05,875
Joe had a fighters instinct
or a boxers instinct.
996
01:14:05,909 --> 01:14:09,713
He had a Myles instinct
that through his,
997
01:14:11,047 --> 01:14:15,552
you know, glass chin
or a soft spot in the belly.
998
01:14:15,585 --> 01:14:18,121
They knew how to
find it pretty quick.
999
01:14:18,154 --> 01:14:22,058
The final tour
began with Joe,
1000
01:14:22,091 --> 01:14:24,928
listening to
the Word Of Mouth album.
1001
01:14:24,961 --> 01:14:27,597
He wanted to wait
for that perfect moment,
1002
01:14:27,631 --> 01:14:29,933
to play the music for Joe.
And he thought
1003
01:14:29,966 --> 01:14:33,970
after lunch flying to Tokyo,
will be the perfect moment.
1004
01:14:34,003 --> 01:14:37,941
Joe takes off the headphone
and I hear him say,
1005
01:14:37,974 --> 01:14:43,046
"Nah, that just sounds like
some typical high school
big bam bullshit."
1006
01:14:43,079 --> 01:14:46,115
That's what Joe said about
Liberty City.
1007
01:14:47,216 --> 01:14:49,185
And I couldn't believe it.
1008
01:14:49,218 --> 01:14:52,155
That was Joe's way of
1009
01:14:52,188 --> 01:14:55,158
slapping down the son,
who's like
1010
01:14:55,959 --> 01:14:58,261
threatening his reign.
1011
01:14:58,294 --> 01:15:00,296
In a sense.
1012
01:15:00,329 --> 01:15:03,099
That fucking music
was on the highest level.
1013
01:15:04,601 --> 01:15:06,903
John and Mary, that...
1014
01:15:06,936 --> 01:15:10,607
Joe would love to write
something like that.
1015
01:15:13,242 --> 01:15:15,211
I think there was
a point of
1016
01:15:16,813 --> 01:15:18,782
fear by Joe in
1017
01:15:21,885 --> 01:15:25,822
feeling like the son
had taken over.
1018
01:15:28,357 --> 01:15:29,959
[LAUGHING]
1019
01:15:29,993 --> 01:15:31,928
Where do you
wanna go from here?
1020
01:15:31,961 --> 01:15:34,130
I got it, I got it,
I got it, I got it.
1021
01:15:34,163 --> 01:15:36,232
[CYMBALS CRASHING]
1022
01:15:37,667 --> 01:15:40,770
*Ti ri ta ta ta ta
Ta ta ta *
1023
01:15:40,804 --> 01:15:44,340
JACO: In 1982, our men took off
from Weather report.
1024
01:15:44,373 --> 01:15:46,209
We've been together
a long time,
1025
01:15:46,242 --> 01:15:50,046
just like anything else,
you gotta have space, too.
1026
01:15:50,079 --> 01:15:52,616
Playing in Weather report
didn't allow me
any time to do anything
1027
01:15:52,649 --> 01:15:54,083
- on my own.
- Uhm...
1028
01:15:55,752 --> 01:15:59,789
So I said to myself,
"Forget it, Jaco.
You gotta get to work."
1029
01:15:59,823 --> 01:16:01,324
And I don't care
what Joe thinks about.
1030
01:16:01,357 --> 01:16:04,728
'Cause I know,
I can get the job done, man.
1031
01:16:04,761 --> 01:16:06,129
And that's it.
1032
01:16:06,930 --> 01:16:08,632
[HORN TOOTING]
1033
01:16:11,367 --> 01:16:15,338
Jaco would come up and just
stay with us, crash with us.
1034
01:16:15,371 --> 01:16:17,240
We were just
playing in a club.
1035
01:16:17,273 --> 01:16:19,308
And right down where I lived,
1036
01:16:19,342 --> 01:16:22,879
from where I lived
called 55 Grand Street.
1037
01:16:23,913 --> 01:16:26,015
The problem for me,
1038
01:16:26,049 --> 01:16:28,752
at that point was
that I was totally out.
1039
01:16:28,785 --> 01:16:30,887
You know I was
really high a lot.
1040
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,623
So much so that Myles,
actually tried to put
me in a rehab.
1041
01:16:33,657 --> 01:16:35,324
And when Myles tries
to put you in a rehab,
1042
01:16:35,358 --> 01:16:37,994
you know, you got
a little bit of a Joan.
1043
01:16:38,027 --> 01:16:41,130
And the nick name
of 55 Grand,
was 55 gram.
1044
01:16:41,164 --> 01:16:42,966
[LAUGHS]
1045
01:16:42,999 --> 01:16:44,100
Is it that what
you're talking about?
1046
01:16:44,133 --> 01:16:46,169
Yeah, so you know,
you know what, there was,
1047
01:16:46,202 --> 01:16:49,272
there was lot of condiments
flowing through, you know.
1048
01:16:49,305 --> 01:16:52,041
People were doing what they
wanted to do. I mean,
there was nothing really
1049
01:16:52,075 --> 01:16:56,412
out in the open, but you know,
if you're there late enough
probably there was.
1050
01:16:56,445 --> 01:16:59,683
I mean, Jaco would hang
for a day, go straight
1051
01:16:59,716 --> 01:17:02,952
through days and days,
never stops hanging.
1052
01:17:02,986 --> 01:17:09,793
[LAUGHS]
It was like dumb asses
just hanging down the street.
1053
01:17:09,826 --> 01:17:13,096
I said,
"Create the Hang Dynasty club."
1054
01:17:13,129 --> 01:17:15,264
So if you hang
for three days,
1055
01:17:15,298 --> 01:17:17,133
you'll be a member
of this club.
1056
01:17:17,166 --> 01:17:20,970
You know, if you didn't hang
for three days straight,
1057
01:17:21,004 --> 01:17:22,305
you aren't in the club.
1058
01:17:22,338 --> 01:17:25,008
So, everybody
passed the test.
1059
01:17:25,041 --> 01:17:26,175
[LAUGHS]
1060
01:17:26,209 --> 01:17:28,177
So we had a band.
1061
01:17:34,984 --> 01:17:38,454
You know, at that point,
that was normal.
1062
01:17:38,487 --> 01:17:42,826
It wasn't that far out
for the musicians.
1063
01:17:42,859 --> 01:17:49,132
But Jaco's playing, became
an extension almost
of his behavior off stage.
1064
01:17:49,165 --> 01:17:52,736
Sort of John Belushi
kind of man.
1065
01:17:52,769 --> 01:17:55,304
People almost felt
cheated if they didn't,
1066
01:17:55,338 --> 01:17:58,942
you know, well,
Jaco really acted
like Jaco tonight.
1067
01:17:58,975 --> 01:18:02,478
They got their money's
worth out of him.
But meanwhile, now he's gotta
1068
01:18:02,511 --> 01:18:04,280
be wreck the next day.
1069
01:18:06,816 --> 01:18:09,753
And so I think,
there was some pressure.
1070
01:18:11,454 --> 01:18:16,292
It didn't occur to me,
not to be with him.
We were just kinda like
1071
01:18:16,325 --> 01:18:19,963
brothers in a way,
you know we just, we well...
1072
01:18:21,464 --> 01:18:23,933
We were in the same boat.
1073
01:18:23,967 --> 01:18:29,939
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
1074
01:18:52,295 --> 01:18:57,733
[JAZZ MUSIC CONTINUES]
1075
01:19:09,412 --> 01:19:14,383
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
1076
01:19:16,585 --> 01:19:19,222
He was a cult figure
of sorts, I mean,
1077
01:19:19,255 --> 01:19:21,057
what stuck me
at one point was...
1078
01:19:21,090 --> 01:19:25,228
"Man we're playing
like an old Bebop tune
from the '40s,"
1079
01:19:25,261 --> 01:19:27,864
for these young people
and they're freaking out
1080
01:19:27,897 --> 01:19:30,934
going crazy and I thought
isn't it fantastic.
1081
01:19:33,970 --> 01:19:36,372
The frustrating thing
to me was,
1082
01:19:36,405 --> 01:19:40,209
this thing was
up and running
from note one.
1083
01:19:40,243 --> 01:19:42,178
We sold out,
wherever we played.
1084
01:19:42,211 --> 01:19:44,881
And all the luminary
musicians came
1085
01:19:44,914 --> 01:19:48,151
to see what was going on,
you know, it was working.
1086
01:19:48,184 --> 01:19:52,822
It made everybody feel
like a rock star,
playing a jazz tour.
1087
01:19:52,856 --> 01:19:55,424
The Japanese adored him,
I mean, we're talking
1088
01:19:55,458 --> 01:19:57,894
20,000 seats.
1089
01:19:57,927 --> 01:20:01,931
There were people, who broke
the bones in their thumbs
1090
01:20:01,965 --> 01:20:05,034
so that they bend
the last digit
1091
01:20:05,068 --> 01:20:07,470
of their
thumb back
like Jaco could.
1092
01:20:08,637 --> 01:20:11,240
I've seen
unbelievable things.
1093
01:20:11,274 --> 01:20:13,943
But the things I saw early,
1094
01:20:13,977 --> 01:20:17,546
were the same things
I saw later that knock me up.
1095
01:20:17,580 --> 01:20:19,983
It's his ability
1096
01:20:20,016 --> 01:20:24,453
to communicate music
to everyone including
the average person.
1097
01:20:26,990 --> 01:20:31,460
He had tribes of people
waiting for him,
in every city that he went to.
1098
01:20:31,494 --> 01:20:36,065
Even if they didn't know
anything about his facility,
1099
01:20:36,099 --> 01:20:40,236
but at the same time
he was leaving Weather Report,
1100
01:20:40,269 --> 01:20:43,006
starting his own career path
1101
01:20:43,039 --> 01:20:45,141
with his album
The Word of Mouth band.
1102
01:20:45,174 --> 01:20:48,611
He was essentially
leaving a family.
1103
01:20:52,381 --> 01:20:56,019
Ingrid gave Jaco,
these magical twins,
1104
01:20:56,052 --> 01:20:59,956
that he was amazed by.
1105
01:20:59,989 --> 01:21:05,561
The concept of twins
was spiritual
and incredible to him.
1106
01:21:05,594 --> 01:21:09,098
And pondering their birth
was astounding to him.
1107
01:21:09,132 --> 01:21:12,969
Unfortunately, that was
happening at the time
when he was
1108
01:21:13,002 --> 01:21:15,171
sort of run raveling
and Ingrid, uh,
1109
01:21:17,173 --> 01:21:20,276
being so,
after they're born
being so
1110
01:21:21,710 --> 01:21:25,314
protected of, his children
didn't watch Jaco around them
1111
01:21:25,348 --> 01:21:27,316
and so he didn't have
1112
01:21:27,350 --> 01:21:29,252
much of a relationship
with them.
1113
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:34,157
'Cause at the time
he was not in a place to
1114
01:21:34,190 --> 01:21:36,592
be responsible parent,
1115
01:21:36,625 --> 01:21:40,029
and that caused
some amount of pain.
1116
01:21:40,063 --> 01:21:42,966
I said, "What's happening, man?
What's wrong?"
1117
01:21:42,999 --> 01:21:45,634
And he said,
"You've ever been married?"
1118
01:21:45,668 --> 01:21:48,071
I said, "No."
He said,
"You have any kids?"
1119
01:21:48,104 --> 01:21:50,373
I said, "No."
He said, "I can't tell you
what's wrong.
1120
01:21:50,406 --> 01:21:53,242
'Cause you wouldn't
understand it."
1121
01:21:53,276 --> 01:21:56,645
I guess that was his way
of let me know that
there were problems.
1122
01:22:07,290 --> 01:22:10,493
Before the Japan trip,
I go to the airport.
1123
01:22:10,526 --> 01:22:15,264
I turn a corner
and here is Jaco.
1124
01:22:15,298 --> 01:22:20,503
And it was the moment which
was driving is that moment
1125
01:22:20,536 --> 01:22:22,505
in the film Taxi Driver,
1126
01:22:22,538 --> 01:22:25,341
when the camera pans
1127
01:22:25,374 --> 01:22:28,211
and then begins to pan up.
1128
01:22:28,244 --> 01:22:31,180
You see the body of De Niro,
you know it's De Niro,
1129
01:22:31,214 --> 01:22:34,683
but then, when you see
the shaved head with a Mohawk...
1130
01:22:34,717 --> 01:22:36,986
I had that same...
1131
01:22:38,021 --> 01:22:40,556
creepy, frightening feeling.
1132
01:22:42,525 --> 01:22:46,195
And I went,
"Hi, Jaco."
1133
01:22:50,733 --> 01:22:55,738
He's got pieces
of electrical tape
on his face,
1134
01:22:55,771 --> 01:22:58,074
with the crew cut.
1135
01:22:58,107 --> 01:23:00,409
At some point,
he changed into this
1136
01:23:00,443 --> 01:23:03,379
blue Seminole dress.
1137
01:23:03,412 --> 01:23:05,614
And he's walking
around the plane
1138
01:23:05,648 --> 01:23:10,519
like he was
Sun Ra or something,
one of these mystical elders.
1139
01:23:13,522 --> 01:23:15,691
A lot of musicians
were kind of amused.
1140
01:23:15,724 --> 01:23:17,626
They're not quite sure
about the make of it,
1141
01:23:17,660 --> 01:23:22,065
those of us who've
known him longer
are alarmed.
1142
01:23:22,098 --> 01:23:26,235
Um, and so, there's a balance
of this emperor's new clothing
1143
01:23:26,269 --> 01:23:29,138
and nobody saying anything.
1144
01:23:29,172 --> 01:23:32,375
And we were whispering,
"What do we do?"
1145
01:23:32,408 --> 01:23:34,677
Something definitely
is wrong.
1146
01:23:43,486 --> 01:23:46,489
[STRING INSTRUMENT PLAYING]
1147
01:23:56,499 --> 01:23:59,435
Hello,
I'm an electric
bass player.
1148
01:23:59,468 --> 01:24:02,605
[LAUGHS]
1149
01:24:02,638 --> 01:24:05,808
Jaco was not doing
so well at that time.
1150
01:24:05,841 --> 01:24:08,177
How's that going?
You got another one?
1151
01:24:08,211 --> 01:24:10,546
Things are not going well.
1152
01:24:10,579 --> 01:24:13,582
What's up
in the future
for you?
1153
01:24:13,616 --> 01:24:16,119
Well, more records.
1154
01:24:16,152 --> 01:24:17,453
It's champagne,
but looks like beer.
1155
01:24:17,486 --> 01:24:21,224
- More records, I'm sure.
- What kinda records?
1156
01:24:21,257 --> 01:24:24,827
Well, we're working
on a new studio album.
1157
01:24:24,860 --> 01:24:29,398
Which album? We are done,
bro. What we gotta do
is get it and mix it.
1158
01:24:29,432 --> 01:24:30,866
[CYMBALS CRASHING]
1159
01:24:30,899 --> 01:24:33,369
There definitely
was a feeling
1160
01:24:33,402 --> 01:24:35,604
of uncertainty.
1161
01:24:35,638 --> 01:24:40,443
That never reared
its ugly head,
during Word of Mouth.
1162
01:24:41,844 --> 01:24:45,448
Label has zero interest
in the record.
1163
01:24:45,481 --> 01:24:49,452
And I didn't know,
what options he had.
1164
01:24:49,485 --> 01:24:53,222
Do you ever see tapping
of the commercial market.
1165
01:24:53,256 --> 01:24:54,690
We are.
1166
01:24:54,723 --> 01:24:58,627
- I'm commercial.
- Not commercial yet.
1167
01:24:58,661 --> 01:25:02,498
Jaco is very aware, that
he could have easily
just gone pop
1168
01:25:02,531 --> 01:25:04,867
making some
records and "Bam".
1169
01:25:04,900 --> 01:25:07,570
I'm not selling out man.
Hey, man.
1170
01:25:07,603 --> 01:25:09,605
I'm not selling out.
1171
01:25:10,839 --> 01:25:12,341
[LAUGHS]
1172
01:25:12,375 --> 01:25:15,211
You know, we're tapping
the commercial market.
1173
01:25:15,244 --> 01:25:20,283
I mean, are you're
referring to the pop music,
top 40 market?
1174
01:25:20,316 --> 01:25:23,319
Well yeah, If they ever
come around
and get smart, sure.
1175
01:25:23,352 --> 01:25:24,920
Like Chuck Mangione.
1176
01:25:24,953 --> 01:25:27,156
Impossible, he plays
out of tune.
1177
01:25:27,190 --> 01:25:29,892
Chuck Manicoti, I don't
dig him at all. You know.
1178
01:25:29,925 --> 01:25:33,229
Yeah, that's the man, he's
a very nice cat, he does
way too much coke,
1179
01:25:33,262 --> 01:25:35,198
and a mother fucker.
1180
01:25:35,231 --> 01:25:37,900
He eats too much pasta
and fuck him,
he wears a hat.
1181
01:25:37,933 --> 01:25:40,369
[LAUGHING]
1182
01:25:40,403 --> 01:25:43,539
When he was in the
midst of recording
for Holiday for Pans.
1183
01:25:43,572 --> 01:25:47,343
The Warner Brothers
decided to
1184
01:25:47,376 --> 01:25:51,214
rip up, literally rip up,
Jaco's contract.
1185
01:25:51,247 --> 01:25:52,715
It was like
a huge rejection.
1186
01:25:52,748 --> 01:25:55,684
He knew that he
was on to something
really special.
1187
01:25:55,718 --> 01:25:58,387
He just continue
this downward spiral.
1188
01:25:59,822 --> 01:26:01,257
People didn't understand
1189
01:26:01,290 --> 01:26:04,227
there were forces
and conditions
and beyond his control,
1190
01:26:04,260 --> 01:26:06,295
that were grabbing hold.
1191
01:26:06,329 --> 01:26:10,499
And it was too easy to just
describe to substances.
1192
01:26:15,438 --> 01:26:19,174
[SIREN WAILING]
1193
01:26:23,379 --> 01:26:25,548
[BEEP]
Hey dad.
It's Jaco.
1194
01:26:25,581 --> 01:26:26,715
You there?
1195
01:26:26,749 --> 01:26:27,783
Hey.
1196
01:26:27,816 --> 01:26:29,852
- Daddy!
- Yeah.
1197
01:26:29,885 --> 01:26:31,820
So nice.
1198
01:26:31,854 --> 01:26:33,689
I don't know,
I haven't heard from you.
1199
01:26:34,357 --> 01:26:35,558
Where you at?
1200
01:26:35,591 --> 01:26:38,694
- New York City.
- Where at?
1201
01:26:38,727 --> 01:26:40,696
Well, we're here.
Jame's house.
1202
01:26:40,729 --> 01:26:42,831
Well, I called there last week.
1203
01:26:42,865 --> 01:26:43,966
Daddy!
1204
01:26:43,999 --> 01:26:48,404
- Sorry... [MUFFLED]
- Nobody answered.
1205
01:26:48,437 --> 01:26:51,206
- Can I tell you one thing.
- What's that?
1206
01:26:53,008 --> 01:26:54,443
Who loves you?
1207
01:26:55,711 --> 01:26:57,613
Who loves you, kid?
1208
01:27:04,953 --> 01:27:06,922
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
1209
01:27:18,334 --> 01:27:20,603
Look, things happen whether
people are good or bad.
1210
01:27:20,636 --> 01:27:24,707
It's always the convergence
of many elements or components
1211
01:27:24,740 --> 01:27:26,975
coming up together.
1212
01:27:27,009 --> 01:27:29,512
You know, it takes
fore fingers to the thumb
1213
01:27:29,545 --> 01:27:31,380
to make that solid.
1214
01:27:31,414 --> 01:27:33,282
But you need
to make impact.
1215
01:27:33,316 --> 01:27:36,952
Or to make stranglehold.
1216
01:27:39,855 --> 01:27:42,591
He's like at this video,
they want me to do this video.
1217
01:27:42,625 --> 01:27:45,594
I told them I wasn't gonna
do this with out you.
But we gonna do this.
1218
01:27:45,628 --> 01:27:47,029
And he was in bad shape.
1219
01:27:47,062 --> 01:27:49,398
But he was so real and then
he wanted to leave some thing.
1220
01:27:49,432 --> 01:27:51,066
I don't know if somethings
gonna happen to him,
1221
01:27:51,099 --> 01:27:52,801
but it was
in the forefront
1222
01:27:52,835 --> 01:27:54,837
of his mind to help
other musicians.
1223
01:27:54,870 --> 01:27:57,072
To help leave
something for kiddies.
1224
01:27:57,105 --> 01:27:59,642
Um, that's what
he wanted to do.
1225
01:27:59,675 --> 01:28:04,447
[BASS GUITAR PLAYING]
1226
01:28:06,382 --> 01:28:07,983
Be p-ba-be-bop-boo.
What you do?
1227
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:12,555
Yeah.
1228
01:28:16,992 --> 01:28:18,694
- Okay.
- Way better something like that.
1229
01:28:18,727 --> 01:28:20,929
That's better than I do.
1230
01:28:20,963 --> 01:28:22,898
Any advice to musicians.
1231
01:28:22,931 --> 01:28:25,534
Young and old.
New, beginners.
1232
01:28:27,836 --> 01:28:29,572
Just your minds open.
1233
01:28:29,605 --> 01:28:32,841
Keep an open head about music.
1234
01:28:32,875 --> 01:28:35,711
When I first came
to New York, everybody
just wanted to play Jazz.
1235
01:28:35,744 --> 01:28:37,780
They didn't know
about rock and roll.
1236
01:28:37,813 --> 01:28:39,782
They didn't know about funk.
They didn't know about nothing.
1237
01:28:39,815 --> 01:28:41,617
All they wanted
to do is Jazz.
1238
01:28:41,650 --> 01:28:43,986
Now New York is cool.
They're playing everything.
1239
01:28:44,019 --> 01:28:48,056
Where I grew up, in Florida,
everything was here.
1240
01:28:48,090 --> 01:28:53,095
So I was fortunate enough to be
exposed and be able to play all
different types of musicians.
1241
01:28:53,128 --> 01:28:55,464
I played in a country band
for an year, I had a ball.
1242
01:28:55,498 --> 01:28:58,701
I love country, western, too,
if it's was good. I dig it.
1243
01:28:58,734 --> 01:29:01,537
Whatever it is, just keep
an open mind about everything.
1244
01:29:01,570 --> 01:29:03,105
That's my own advice.
1245
01:29:03,138 --> 01:29:05,974
- And keep listening.
- Beautiful.
1246
01:29:06,008 --> 01:29:07,643
Keep your ears open.
1247
01:29:10,913 --> 01:29:13,582
You have to support your music
or your art with your life.
1248
01:29:13,616 --> 01:29:15,451
And how they intertwine...
1249
01:29:15,484 --> 01:29:19,655
If your life doesn't
have enough stability,
1250
01:29:19,688 --> 01:29:21,424
then your
art is gonna suffer.
1251
01:29:21,457 --> 01:29:23,592
You're not gonna be able to get
those tomatoes to the market.
1252
01:29:23,626 --> 01:29:26,762
If you have a flat tire,
you're gonna be on
the side of the highway.
1253
01:29:26,795 --> 01:29:30,433
Um, so he was in that kind of...
1254
01:29:30,466 --> 01:29:32,968
Stage where
this was going on.
1255
01:29:34,202 --> 01:29:38,641
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
1256
01:30:05,901 --> 01:30:08,437
[HORN TOOTING]
1257
01:30:10,072 --> 01:30:11,707
[BEEP]
1258
01:30:11,740 --> 01:30:14,943
Hi, Jack, I'm sorry for calling
so early, but this is Carey.
1259
01:30:14,977 --> 01:30:17,546
And I just saw
Jaco on the street.
1260
01:30:17,580 --> 01:30:19,982
And he's doing
some crazy things.
1261
01:30:20,015 --> 01:30:23,118
I don't want to tell
you this, but he needs
some sort of help again.
1262
01:30:23,151 --> 01:30:26,489
He almost got himself killed
by somebody a little while ago.
1263
01:30:26,522 --> 01:30:29,692
So I just don't know
what to tell you, you know.
1264
01:30:29,725 --> 01:30:31,727
I hope you could help.
1265
01:30:36,732 --> 01:30:38,366
Between the street door
1266
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:43,138
and our security
door inside, there was
a little six foot space.
1267
01:30:43,171 --> 01:30:45,774
Some mornings he'll
be there waiting for us.
1268
01:30:45,808 --> 01:30:47,943
Obviously he's been up
from the night before,
1269
01:30:47,976 --> 01:30:50,479
and he knew
it was a safe place.
1270
01:30:50,513 --> 01:30:53,148
[DRUMS BEATING]
1271
01:30:56,819 --> 01:30:58,987
He was comfortable
here because
1272
01:30:59,021 --> 01:31:02,725
he was around musicians.
1273
01:31:02,758 --> 01:31:04,893
Saying, "Hey, let me show
you something on my drums"
1274
01:31:04,927 --> 01:31:07,496
or, "Let me show you something
I'm working on the piano."
1275
01:31:07,530 --> 01:31:09,231
Come here check this out."
1276
01:31:09,264 --> 01:31:12,535
Here's something I wrote,
you know, Weather Report
never recorded.
1277
01:31:14,870 --> 01:31:19,675
He would kind of jolt
and say, "Man, you know why",
1278
01:31:19,708 --> 01:31:22,678
"why is this or how could
this be for this guy that was
1279
01:31:22,711 --> 01:31:24,713
"on top of the world
1280
01:31:24,747 --> 01:31:26,582
"and reinvented
the instrument
1281
01:31:26,615 --> 01:31:30,919
and left such
a strong mark on music."
1282
01:31:32,187 --> 01:31:34,690
[SIREN WAILING]
1283
01:31:40,863 --> 01:31:45,901
[BASS GUITAR PLAYING]
1284
01:31:53,008 --> 01:31:54,877
The senior in my band, Anthony,
1285
01:31:54,910 --> 01:31:56,679
they were walking down
a street in New York,
1286
01:31:56,712 --> 01:31:59,281
and they saw Jaco,
sitting on the sidewalk.
1287
01:31:59,314 --> 01:32:02,685
And they were like,
"It's Jaco Pastorius,
1288
01:32:02,718 --> 01:32:06,054
sitting on the sidewalk drunk,
playing Louie Louie
for change."
1289
01:32:14,229 --> 01:32:18,901
* When Charlie
Speaks of lustre
1290
01:32:18,934 --> 01:32:20,636
* You know someone...
1291
01:32:20,669 --> 01:32:24,272
I went to an art
opening in Soho.
1292
01:32:24,306 --> 01:32:29,211
And when we came out there
was a little club across
the street with a cardboard
1293
01:32:29,244 --> 01:32:32,781
signed magic marker said,
"Jaco Pastorius tonight."
1294
01:32:36,284 --> 01:32:39,888
So I went in and I
found him at the bar.
1295
01:32:42,691 --> 01:32:47,029
He sure cheated me,
he asked me to jam with him,
1296
01:32:47,062 --> 01:32:50,098
but he trailed the cord
of the microphone
1297
01:32:50,132 --> 01:32:53,802
over the keyboard
so that it got in my way.
1298
01:32:53,836 --> 01:32:55,971
And I flip it off
while I'm playing,
1299
01:32:56,004 --> 01:32:57,873
and he would
flip it back on.
1300
01:32:57,906 --> 01:33:00,042
And he was playing
way out the chord.
1301
01:33:00,075 --> 01:33:02,077
You know, it was,
1302
01:33:02,110 --> 01:33:06,048
not good, nothing was
good about it at all, it was,
1303
01:33:06,682 --> 01:33:07,683
you know...
1304
01:33:09,117 --> 01:33:13,856
You know, when he was
kind of praising me too much...
1305
01:33:13,889 --> 01:33:16,158
You know what I mean, like,
1306
01:33:16,191 --> 01:33:19,394
and then, sure cheating me
too much, it was very
1307
01:33:19,427 --> 01:33:22,631
skitsy behavior, you know.
1308
01:33:22,665 --> 01:33:25,233
And that's the last
I saw of him.
1309
01:33:33,208 --> 01:33:37,012
DR. KENNETH: In July of 1986,
I committed him to Bellevue.
1310
01:33:42,250 --> 01:33:44,286
Jaco was in the hospital
for seven weeks.
1311
01:33:44,319 --> 01:33:48,090
He was admitted in late July
and discharged in about
mid September.
1312
01:33:48,123 --> 01:33:50,893
This is almost
exactly 25 years ago.
1313
01:33:53,328 --> 01:33:54,930
When he came in,
1314
01:33:54,963 --> 01:33:59,067
there was this
grandiosity and kind of
oppositional behavior.
1315
01:33:59,101 --> 01:34:01,169
And he was certainly
in danger of provoking
1316
01:34:01,203 --> 01:34:03,872
somebody that could
be dangerous to him.
1317
01:34:05,908 --> 01:34:09,812
And this sort of
scaled down over weeks.
1318
01:34:09,845 --> 01:34:11,847
While he was on the unit,
1319
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:14,817
he was very engaged
1320
01:34:14,850 --> 01:34:18,787
with other patients. He could
reach other patients in ways
that other people couldn't.
1321
01:34:18,821 --> 01:34:22,190
I recall, there was
this woman there,
very psychotic patient,
1322
01:34:22,224 --> 01:34:24,960
who had cut herself,
1323
01:34:24,993 --> 01:34:28,797
all over the body
in response to some delusion.
1324
01:34:28,831 --> 01:34:31,800
And she was very withdrawn
and very inaccessible,
1325
01:34:31,834 --> 01:34:33,769
and Jaco really reached her,
1326
01:34:33,802 --> 01:34:38,206
in terms of making some kind
of connection, some kind
of contact with her.
1327
01:34:38,240 --> 01:34:40,743
Jaco had that capability.
1328
01:34:41,910 --> 01:34:46,214
[PIANO MUSIC PLAYING]
1329
01:34:49,151 --> 01:34:52,120
His diagnosis
was bipolar disorder.
1330
01:34:54,222 --> 01:34:56,792
The classical form
of bipolar disorder,
1331
01:34:56,825 --> 01:34:59,127
is weeks to months
of depression.
1332
01:34:59,161 --> 01:35:02,197
And days to weeks of mania.
1333
01:35:02,230 --> 01:35:07,002
Jaco, had what you'd call
either rapid cycling
or mixed state.
1334
01:35:07,035 --> 01:35:09,838
Where the features
of mania and depression
1335
01:35:09,872 --> 01:35:12,775
alternated rapidly
or mixed with one another.
1336
01:35:17,012 --> 01:35:20,148
That interacted with
the exposure to alcohol.
1337
01:35:20,182 --> 01:35:24,920
He was not at the point where
he looked like just another
drug using musician.
1338
01:35:24,953 --> 01:35:27,022
It was not like that.
1339
01:35:32,060 --> 01:35:35,931
Who is to say that
the chemical imbalance
1340
01:35:35,964 --> 01:35:40,235
is a fault of nature?
1341
01:35:40,268 --> 01:35:45,908
It could be that
the chemical imbalance ushers
1342
01:35:45,941 --> 01:35:50,045
in action, that would not
have been taken
1343
01:35:50,078 --> 01:35:53,081
if you're living without it.
1344
01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:00,823
He was an explorer.
1345
01:36:02,424 --> 01:36:04,927
I see him in an image of Jaco,
1346
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:08,931
like Johnny Parker,
Coltrane, Myles.
1347
01:36:08,964 --> 01:36:13,068
It's the same thing
I saw in the comic books.
1348
01:36:13,969 --> 01:36:15,470
Superheros.
1349
01:36:48,036 --> 01:36:50,438
[WAVES SPLASHING]
1350
01:36:50,472 --> 01:36:53,141
OPERATOR: Hallo, collect
to Jack from Jaco.
1351
01:36:54,509 --> 01:36:56,311
Hey dad, it's Jaco.
1352
01:36:56,344 --> 01:36:57,545
Yeah.
1353
01:37:01,383 --> 01:37:03,351
Live and loud, in Florida.
1354
01:37:04,652 --> 01:37:06,254
Love you.
1355
01:37:07,389 --> 01:37:09,925
[WIND BLOWING]
1356
01:37:15,397 --> 01:37:19,034
Jaco, returned to Florida,
1357
01:37:19,067 --> 01:37:21,336
after he was treated.
1358
01:37:21,369 --> 01:37:25,373
He was intermittently
compiled with the medication
that's not unusual.
1359
01:37:31,113 --> 01:37:33,081
He was going through a phase
1360
01:37:33,115 --> 01:37:35,650
that a lot of bipolar
patients go through.
1361
01:37:35,683 --> 01:37:37,886
And that's why they're
ambivalent about
their treatment.
1362
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:39,821
And struggling with
accepting the illness.
1363
01:37:39,854 --> 01:37:44,859
And that's what was going on
in the year after he was
discharged from Bellevue.
1364
01:38:03,211 --> 01:38:04,212
One day,
1365
01:38:05,513 --> 01:38:07,115
I look up and it's daddy.
1366
01:38:07,449 --> 01:38:09,617
And,
1367
01:38:09,651 --> 01:38:13,288
he doesn't have a base,
I don't think he had
a shirt on.
1368
01:38:13,321 --> 01:38:16,558
And he's hanging out
with some fellows.
1369
01:38:16,591 --> 01:38:21,896
I assume they were hanging out
here, too, to whatever degree.
1370
01:38:24,232 --> 01:38:26,401
He had an acoustic guitar.
1371
01:38:26,434 --> 01:38:29,637
He had some albums,
you know, some of his albums.
1372
01:38:29,671 --> 01:38:33,075
And I realize that,
"Man, he's hanging out here."
1373
01:38:34,309 --> 01:38:36,244
I mean, he could have
stayed anywhere.
1374
01:38:36,278 --> 01:38:39,347
The thought of,
my dad, Jaco Pastorius,
1375
01:38:39,381 --> 01:38:43,118
sleeping in a park is absurd.
1376
01:38:43,151 --> 01:38:46,554
And I don't think we'll
ever know exactly why.
1377
01:38:51,626 --> 01:38:55,563
He was in a constant state
of motion, at all times.
1378
01:38:58,200 --> 01:39:02,004
He was like trying to grab
a cloud or a wind.
1379
01:39:04,039 --> 01:39:07,475
One day he would've choosed
to get better.
1380
01:39:07,509 --> 01:39:10,945
But that choice was
taken away from him.
1381
01:39:13,581 --> 01:39:16,284
He didn't die on the streets,
1382
01:39:16,318 --> 01:39:18,620
from a blown out liver,
1383
01:39:18,653 --> 01:39:20,722
or a heart attack or anything.
He was killed.
1384
01:39:24,492 --> 01:39:26,628
The song is called
Mr. Pastorius, it's on your
1385
01:39:26,661 --> 01:39:29,331
last album
Amandla, right?
1386
01:39:31,399 --> 01:39:36,171
[MR. PASTORIUS PLAYING]
1387
01:40:07,635 --> 01:40:11,173
I remember, he came to a gig,
I had in Fort Lauderdale.
1388
01:40:11,206 --> 01:40:14,342
And the owner ran out,
1389
01:40:14,376 --> 01:40:16,678
and said, "I'm gonna call
the cops, right now."
1390
01:40:16,711 --> 01:40:21,049
And Jaco hadn't done anything.
All he did was he just walk
into the restaurant.
1391
01:40:21,083 --> 01:40:25,420
And so I told the band leader,
I said, "Look,
that's my brother."
1392
01:40:25,453 --> 01:40:28,523
"I have to take him home.
I can't let him go to jail."
1393
01:40:28,556 --> 01:40:31,159
I put his sticks down.
Got up, got my car keys,
1394
01:40:31,193 --> 01:40:35,230
I got Jaco, and I said,
"Come on man, let's go."
1395
01:40:35,263 --> 01:40:36,698
So we get in my car.
1396
01:40:36,731 --> 01:40:39,101
I said,
"Okay, where do you live?"
1397
01:40:39,134 --> 01:40:42,237
and he says, "In the park."
1398
01:40:42,270 --> 01:40:44,739
And I said,
"what? In the Park?"
1399
01:40:44,772 --> 01:40:48,076
"Yeah, I live in the park.
Just take me to the park."
1400
01:40:48,110 --> 01:40:49,544
So we're driving in the park,
1401
01:40:49,577 --> 01:40:52,080
then he grabs my hand,
he starts crying.
1402
01:40:52,114 --> 01:40:56,718
Then I said,"What's wrong man."
He goes, "I don't wanna
be here any more."
1403
01:40:56,751 --> 01:40:59,487
And I said, "What do you
mean by that, Jaco?"
1404
01:40:59,521 --> 01:41:02,324
"I don't wanna
be here man, I've had it."
1405
01:41:04,126 --> 01:41:08,496
[TRUMPET PLAYING]
1406
01:41:14,669 --> 01:41:18,340
[THUNDER RUMBLING]
1407
01:41:20,708 --> 01:41:21,743
[BEEP]
1408
01:42:06,754 --> 01:42:13,195
[THUNDER RUMBLING]
1409
01:42:24,206 --> 01:42:26,441
That night he went
to see his hero,
1410
01:42:26,474 --> 01:42:28,343
Carlos Santana.
1411
01:42:28,376 --> 01:42:31,413
And the incident happened.
1412
01:42:31,446 --> 01:42:35,450
I found about it very quick
because my ex-girlfriend,
1413
01:42:35,483 --> 01:42:40,722
dated one of those assholes
that beat him to coma.
1414
01:42:40,755 --> 01:42:43,658
And this was
pretty tough,
very tough
1415
01:42:44,459 --> 01:42:46,394
for me to hear.
1416
01:42:46,428 --> 01:42:50,765
And, it was very sad.
I remember,
1417
01:42:51,799 --> 01:42:53,435
at the funeral.
1418
01:42:54,602 --> 01:42:57,339
The boys.
1419
01:42:57,372 --> 01:43:00,675
Ingrid, looked at me
and she just walked away.
She couldn't take it.
1420
01:43:00,708 --> 01:43:03,378
Everybody was walking
away at the end
1421
01:43:03,411 --> 01:43:05,380
of the funeral, man.
1422
01:43:05,413 --> 01:43:08,683
Julius and Felix,
they are looking at me.
1423
01:43:08,716 --> 01:43:10,818
They said, "Uncle Bobby",
1424
01:43:10,852 --> 01:43:13,588
when daddy Jaco's gonna
jump out of the box?"
1425
01:43:13,621 --> 01:43:18,226
And man, I remember,
it took like 20 minutes,
1426
01:43:18,260 --> 01:43:20,728
talking to them
to let them know that,
1427
01:43:20,762 --> 01:43:24,666
"Daddy Jaco's is with
the angels now, he's not
gonna jump out of the box."
1428
01:43:27,435 --> 01:43:29,537
Just thinking about
what he has said,
1429
01:43:29,571 --> 01:43:32,674
and then watching
his life unfold after that.
1430
01:43:32,707 --> 01:43:35,443
Everything he said,
came to pass.
1431
01:43:37,945 --> 01:43:40,982
Not too long, afterwards
I was flying in Italy,
1432
01:43:42,750 --> 01:43:43,985
after the concert,
1433
01:43:44,018 --> 01:43:46,488
you know, got on
to the front of the stage.
1434
01:43:46,521 --> 01:43:49,557
Meet some fans. I went to
the stage right where there's
1435
01:43:49,591 --> 01:43:51,726
a stairway that's
lead off the stage,
1436
01:43:51,759 --> 01:43:55,263
and I started to go
halfway down, to say
hello to someone, I think,
1437
01:43:55,297 --> 01:43:57,532
this fan came up to me.
1438
01:43:57,565 --> 01:44:00,268
Very emotional.
1439
01:44:00,302 --> 01:44:02,570
Just said,
"How could you do this?
1440
01:44:02,604 --> 01:44:05,373
How could all of you
let this happen?"
1441
01:44:08,976 --> 01:44:12,714
I said,
"Well, we all tried
to help and..."
1442
01:44:12,747 --> 01:44:14,916
There wasn't good enough
answer for him.
1443
01:44:16,017 --> 01:44:17,018
You know.
1444
01:44:18,486 --> 01:44:24,492
[BASS GUITAR PLAYING]
1445
01:44:59,361 --> 01:45:00,695
JONAS:
We're influenced by life.
1446
01:45:00,728 --> 01:45:04,098
Whether we like it or not.
It's not necessarily music.
1447
01:45:04,131 --> 01:45:06,067
That makes us
play a certain way.
1448
01:45:06,100 --> 01:45:08,736
It's the life we live.
It's our experiences.
1449
01:45:08,770 --> 01:45:10,805
It's our upbringing.
It's what we
1450
01:45:10,838 --> 01:45:13,408
experienced as kids
before we were even
1451
01:45:13,441 --> 01:45:15,810
really conscious about
our own personality,
1452
01:45:15,843 --> 01:45:19,381
or what we are or what
we wanna do with life.
1453
01:45:19,414 --> 01:45:23,084
That's the stuff,
that torment that
go inside us.
1454
01:45:23,117 --> 01:45:25,753
That is what
comes out in music.
1455
01:45:25,787 --> 01:45:27,955
Everybody gets
their own burden, man.
1456
01:45:27,989 --> 01:45:29,924
Everyone gets their own
special beating in life,
1457
01:45:29,957 --> 01:45:31,726
you know what I mean?
1458
01:45:31,759 --> 01:45:35,363
He just took this energy
and he turned it into,
what he turned it into.
1459
01:45:35,397 --> 01:45:38,132
You feel it in every note,
you feel his nervous system.
1460
01:45:38,165 --> 01:45:40,568
You feel his joy,
you feel his neurosis,
1461
01:45:40,602 --> 01:45:42,904
you feel his suffering,
you feel it all.
1462
01:45:44,071 --> 01:45:47,442
Where do you go after Jaco.
1463
01:45:47,475 --> 01:45:49,076
It's not too much more
1464
01:45:49,110 --> 01:45:52,814
soul and feeling,
and vibe.
1465
01:45:52,847 --> 01:45:56,418
You know, that are
original stuff.
1466
01:45:56,451 --> 01:45:58,920
There's not too much
you can do with that.
1467
01:46:20,508 --> 01:46:25,079
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
1468
01:46:27,649 --> 01:46:29,417
Where's he at?
1469
01:46:29,451 --> 01:46:31,819
Usually right next to
Johnny Parker.
1470
01:46:31,853 --> 01:46:33,721
How do you spell
Pastorius again?
1471
01:46:33,755 --> 01:46:35,890
Capital "P" as in...
1472
01:46:36,624 --> 01:46:38,960
That is, uh... Ha...
1473
01:46:38,993 --> 01:46:41,829
The Music's just
a byproduct of his life, man.
1474
01:46:41,863 --> 01:46:45,600
And you can hear
his sound every day.
1475
01:46:45,633 --> 01:46:48,570
Be it, Sting for the Police
or Flea from
the Chili Peppers.
1476
01:46:48,603 --> 01:46:50,538
It's amazing,
how many people
1477
01:46:50,572 --> 01:46:52,807
are so close to his music.
1478
01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:56,210
And are so,
appreciative of what he gave.
1479
01:46:56,243 --> 01:46:58,179
In a short amount of time.
1480
01:46:58,212 --> 01:46:59,881
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
1481
01:46:59,914 --> 01:47:05,520
It is an honor to play here,
in the Yankee stadium,
New York City.
1482
01:47:05,553 --> 01:47:09,691
Thank you, for coming here
and supporting heavy music.
1483
01:47:11,092 --> 01:47:15,930
[FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS
PLAYING]
1484
01:47:35,583 --> 01:47:39,220
I had the good fortune
of seeing, Jaco play
four times.
1485
01:47:39,253 --> 01:47:41,789
It was an amazing
moment for me.
1486
01:47:41,823 --> 01:47:44,559
Jaco, to me,
was punk rock, you know.
1487
01:47:44,592 --> 01:47:46,460
He was fearless.
1488
01:47:46,494 --> 01:47:51,265
You know, you can try and
label him as your own and say,
"Jaco is pure Jazz."
1489
01:47:51,298 --> 01:47:54,836
But there are some
Jazz musicians
that are punk rock.
1490
01:48:01,576 --> 01:48:04,646
All of us stand
on Jaco's shoulders.
1491
01:48:04,679 --> 01:48:09,751
No one could have missed
that section of DNA out.
1492
01:48:09,784 --> 01:48:13,120
You know, you needed Jaco,
to get to this point.
1493
01:48:15,222 --> 01:48:17,959
[BASS GUITAR PLAYING]
1494
01:48:22,029 --> 01:48:25,933
The things that I know that
he's written blow my mind.
1495
01:48:27,034 --> 01:48:30,237
And no small part
has influenced me,
1496
01:48:30,271 --> 01:48:34,576
in a way, especially
the way, I put together
the instrumental songs.
1497
01:48:37,745 --> 01:48:42,049
Whatever the genre can take,
the genre can take.
1498
01:48:42,083 --> 01:48:45,787
So stretch it, pull it,
bend it, it won't break it.
1499
01:48:52,727 --> 01:48:55,029
I just remember him
being amazing,
I remember the back flip,
1500
01:48:55,062 --> 01:48:57,665
I remember the great
bass playing,
I remember just thinking,
1501
01:48:57,699 --> 01:49:01,002
this is what it's all about.
This is what I aspire to.
1502
01:49:01,035 --> 01:49:04,338
[BY THE WAY PLAYING]
1503
01:49:04,371 --> 01:49:06,941
He's the greatest
electric bass player
to ever play.
1504
01:49:06,974 --> 01:49:08,976
There's nothing else like it.
1505
01:49:09,010 --> 01:49:11,913
I mean, I'm thinking,
am I missing anyone
as if I'm missing something.
1506
01:49:11,946 --> 01:49:15,016
Is there anything close
to it on the note, on the bass.
1507
01:49:15,950 --> 01:49:17,151
Not to me, man.
1508
01:49:21,923 --> 01:49:23,758
[JAZZ MUSIC PLAYING]
1509
01:49:31,866 --> 01:49:32,967
MAN: Come on, Jaco.
1510
01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:36,003
One, two, three, four.
1511
01:49:44,378 --> 01:49:47,214
One, two, three, four.
1512
01:49:48,816 --> 01:49:49,817
Right.
1513
01:49:50,985 --> 01:49:52,253
[LAUGHS]
1514
01:49:55,990 --> 01:49:57,759
MAN: Jaco has no idea.
1515
01:49:57,792 --> 01:50:00,361
Ooh, bad...
1516
01:50:00,394 --> 01:50:03,765
Two in a row,
not bad. Very good.
1517
01:50:03,798 --> 01:50:05,232
You won't believe this,
1518
01:50:05,266 --> 01:50:07,401
Jaco is playing in this club,
1519
01:50:07,434 --> 01:50:10,004
he walked down the stage
balancing his bass
1520
01:50:10,037 --> 01:50:11,272
in one hand.
1521
01:50:11,305 --> 01:50:13,340
And everybody
was holla and screaming.
1522
01:50:13,374 --> 01:50:15,843
He's balanced it
all the way up to the stage,
1523
01:50:15,877 --> 01:50:18,946
as the other guy played,
took the cord out
and started playing.
1524
01:50:18,980 --> 01:50:22,950
I said, "No." He was
like a Roman God.
1525
01:50:22,984 --> 01:50:26,153
He has these boots, man,
these boots up to here.
1526
01:50:26,187 --> 01:50:29,423
And then he put a lot
of talcum powder in it.
1527
01:50:29,456 --> 01:50:32,093
I mean a lot.
1528
01:50:32,126 --> 01:50:34,729
He walks up to the stage
and borrowed the bass
1529
01:50:34,762 --> 01:50:37,799
from Rocco.
He just played his ass off.
1530
01:50:37,832 --> 01:50:41,102
And after he finished,
he started building,
building, building...
1531
01:50:41,135 --> 01:50:45,406
Then he jumps and when he jumps
all the talcum powder went
[BLOWS RASPBERRIES] like that.
1532
01:50:45,439 --> 01:50:47,441
So it was like a magic trick.
1533
01:50:47,474 --> 01:50:50,044
We were cracking...
I said, "This guy
is out of his mind."
1534
01:50:50,077 --> 01:50:53,280
They ask me,
what is it like
to play with Jaco.
1535
01:50:53,314 --> 01:50:56,851
I came up with
a description one time.
1536
01:50:56,884 --> 01:51:00,722
Kind of like jumping out
of an airplane, naked at
night on an LSD.
1537
01:51:00,755 --> 01:51:03,958
Something like that.
1538
01:51:03,991 --> 01:51:07,394
It was exiting, you know
it's like "Wow!" It's a ride.
1539
01:51:07,428 --> 01:51:08,830
With a parachute.
1540
01:51:08,863 --> 01:51:10,464
I would wake up and go,
"What's going on?"
1541
01:51:10,497 --> 01:51:14,201
And he said this is not
a normal thing,
please, it's just...
1542
01:51:14,235 --> 01:51:17,171
You just back off
or let us be.
1543
01:51:17,204 --> 01:51:19,707
'Cause it's gonna
happen every day.
1544
01:51:19,741 --> 01:51:23,911
This is like Charlie Parker
walked in the house.
1545
01:51:23,945 --> 01:51:26,247
This is terrible,
'cause this is very heavy.
1546
01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:29,350
Even now, I can't play
the bass a little bit.
1547
01:51:29,383 --> 01:51:32,854
I still cannot articulate
like he does.
1548
01:51:32,887 --> 01:51:35,122
Every single note.
1549
01:51:35,156 --> 01:51:38,359
Everything is so
perfectly executed.
1550
01:51:38,392 --> 01:51:41,729
When Jaco plays,
it sounds like he knows
1551
01:51:41,763 --> 01:51:43,931
every single note
he's playing.
There's no way
1552
01:51:43,965 --> 01:51:47,101
that he can play
a wrong note.
And it's fretless.
1553
01:51:48,069 --> 01:51:50,471
So fuck that guy.
Big time.
1554
01:51:50,504 --> 01:51:57,078
We were playing at his house
one time, and he was playing
drums. Tk-tss... Tk-tss...
1555
01:51:57,111 --> 01:52:00,181
You know, he starts
playing the Teen Town beat.
1556
01:52:00,214 --> 01:52:03,084
And he says,
"Let's play Teen Town.
1557
01:52:03,885 --> 01:52:05,820
And I said, "Jaco",
1558
01:52:07,054 --> 01:52:10,157
I don't know Teen Town."
1559
01:52:10,191 --> 01:52:14,195
He looked at me and said,
"You don't know Teen Town?"
1560
01:52:14,228 --> 01:52:19,767
And I said, "No, I don't know
any of your songs."
1561
01:52:19,801 --> 01:52:23,037
And there was
this pregnant pause.
And he
1562
01:52:23,070 --> 01:52:26,974
loomed up out
of the drum stool.
1563
01:52:27,008 --> 01:52:30,544
And he was so much taller
than me and I'm standing up.
And he's like, I'm thinking,
1564
01:52:30,577 --> 01:52:35,282
Oh, my God. I'm about to get
my ass whipped because
I don't know Teen Town.
1565
01:52:38,352 --> 01:52:41,222
A lot of us bass players,
can't get beyond the bass.
1566
01:52:41,255 --> 01:52:43,357
We're playing the music
that's on the bass.
1567
01:52:43,390 --> 01:52:45,259
He was playing music
that was in the air.
1568
01:52:45,292 --> 01:52:47,294
The music that was
in his body.
1569
01:55:41,468 --> 01:55:43,404
I found it was love.
1570
01:55:43,437 --> 01:55:44,638
This one's for Jaco.
1571
01:55:47,774 --> 01:55:49,476
* Oh, yeah
1572
01:55:49,510 --> 01:55:51,445
* I feel you JP
Let's go!
1573
01:55:51,478 --> 01:55:54,048
* Been at the bottom but then
I got back up to this ring
1574
01:55:54,081 --> 01:55:55,649
* And I beat 'em up 'cause
I never been an average
1575
01:55:55,682 --> 01:55:57,584
* Of flicking and I need to
Get up and pin this thing
1576
01:55:57,618 --> 01:55:59,520
* With all the fault and
I don't know what the matter is
1577
01:55:59,553 --> 01:56:01,522
* I'm packing my bag
To see whose fault
1578
01:56:01,555 --> 01:56:04,258
* I'm harass and blast
The people trying bury my class
And grass the Bebop
1579
01:56:04,291 --> 01:56:06,127
* But I'm the last
To see dope
1580
01:56:06,160 --> 01:56:08,695
* But I'm a bit weak and low
The people who back like
A freak show when he
1581
01:56:08,729 --> 01:56:12,099
* Shows magazine troll
By all means souls so we grow
1582
01:56:12,133 --> 01:56:14,135
* Just pass the lead yo
1583
01:56:14,168 --> 01:56:16,603
* After all my angel
Bet to pay to
1584
01:56:16,637 --> 01:56:19,240
* Love but I woke up quick
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