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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,505 --> 00:00:07,748 - Tonight, one of the most notorious 2 00:00:07,900 --> 00:00:09,842 missing person cases of all time, 3 00:00:10,069 --> 00:00:14,513 a powerful union activist vanishes without a trace. 4 00:00:14,664 --> 00:00:18,350 45 years later, the search for him continues. 5 00:00:20,003 --> 00:00:22,429 - He's really well-known across the country. 6 00:00:22,581 --> 00:00:24,857 Where is his body? 7 00:00:25,008 --> 00:00:27,601 - Now, we uncover the top theories 8 00:00:27,753 --> 00:00:30,678 surrounding his shocking disappearance. 9 00:00:30,773 --> 00:00:33,423 - Law enforcement suspects 10 00:00:33,442 --> 00:00:34,775 that guys use the incinerator 11 00:00:34,869 --> 00:00:37,611 to dispose of bodies. 12 00:00:37,763 --> 00:00:40,280 - Is it possible the CIA took out all three 13 00:00:40,374 --> 00:00:41,765 to keep things quiet? 14 00:00:44,045 --> 00:00:47,379 - Can new evidence and the investigations behind it 15 00:00:47,531 --> 00:00:50,049 finally bring us closer to the truth? 16 00:00:52,202 --> 00:00:54,053 - I am the only person alive today 17 00:00:54,204 --> 00:00:56,446 that knows where the remains of Jimmy Hoffa is. 18 00:00:58,225 --> 00:01:01,894 - Our investigative team is excited, that's for sure. 19 00:01:02,045 --> 00:01:04,638 They got high hopes they're gonna find him. 20 00:01:04,790 --> 00:01:07,733 - Where is Jimmy Hoffa? 21 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,829 - Detroit, Michigan, 1975, 22 00:01:28,981 --> 00:01:31,739 the center of both the U.S. auto industry 23 00:01:31,834 --> 00:01:34,484 and of organized labor. 24 00:01:34,578 --> 00:01:36,837 It's also the last known location 25 00:01:36,931 --> 00:01:40,748 of renowned former Teamster president, Jimmy Hoffa. 26 00:01:40,843 --> 00:01:43,435 - Jimmy Hoffa is a legend 27 00:01:43,587 --> 00:01:45,846 within the labor movement. 28 00:01:45,998 --> 00:01:49,015 - He is a true champion of workers' rights. 29 00:01:49,168 --> 00:01:51,443 He's known all over the country. 30 00:01:51,670 --> 00:01:53,946 - Hoffa's been involved with labor unions 31 00:01:54,173 --> 00:01:57,691 since running his first strike as a teenager. 32 00:01:57,785 --> 00:02:00,101 - By the age of 14, 33 00:02:00,195 --> 00:02:03,513 he had to go to work to help support his family, 34 00:02:03,607 --> 00:02:05,866 loading and unloading strawberries, 35 00:02:06,018 --> 00:02:08,443 working under these terrible conditions. 36 00:02:08,537 --> 00:02:11,130 And he finally kinda has enough 37 00:02:11,281 --> 00:02:14,449 and he organizes his fellow workers. 38 00:02:14,543 --> 00:02:16,877 They decide they're gonna stop loading and unloading 39 00:02:16,971 --> 00:02:18,953 these strawberries and just let them sit out there 40 00:02:19,047 --> 00:02:21,381 and bake in the hot sun. 41 00:02:21,533 --> 00:02:24,701 Management's watching their strawberries kind of molder 42 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:26,370 on the dock, they cave. 43 00:02:26,463 --> 00:02:29,723 I think this is where Hoffa really sees 44 00:02:29,875 --> 00:02:33,226 the power of the people, the power of organizing. 45 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,545 He was successful in his very first time out 46 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,215 at 14 years old, and people noticed. 47 00:02:40,386 --> 00:02:44,663 - By 1957, he's risen to president of the Teamsters, 48 00:02:44,890 --> 00:02:48,058 but his climb comes with challenges. 49 00:02:48,076 --> 00:02:50,502 - A rival union appears in Detroit, 50 00:02:50,654 --> 00:02:53,005 competing for the same workers as the Teamsters, 51 00:02:53,232 --> 00:02:55,657 and they gain so much ground that, eventually, 52 00:02:55,676 --> 00:02:58,826 Hoffa turns to the Mafia for help. 53 00:02:58,921 --> 00:03:00,345 - Specifically, 54 00:03:00,497 --> 00:03:04,683 New York's powerful Genovese crime family. 55 00:03:04,910 --> 00:03:07,019 - By forming this alliance with the Mafia, 56 00:03:07,246 --> 00:03:09,671 the Teamsters, they win their battle. 57 00:03:09,765 --> 00:03:11,857 But it comes at a price. 58 00:03:12,008 --> 00:03:13,767 The Mafia guys that he forms an alliance with, 59 00:03:13,861 --> 00:03:15,435 they're expecting access 60 00:03:15,587 --> 00:03:19,347 to the Teamsters' pension fund in return. 61 00:03:19,441 --> 00:03:20,924 - The Teamsters' pension fund 62 00:03:20,943 --> 00:03:23,109 is like a blank check for the Mafia, 63 00:03:23,204 --> 00:03:25,445 their own personal bank. 64 00:03:25,539 --> 00:03:28,949 Hoffa has a 14-year run with the Teamsters, 65 00:03:29,043 --> 00:03:31,284 working hand in hand with the Mafia the whole time. 66 00:03:31,437 --> 00:03:34,713 But that deal is eventually his undoing. 67 00:03:34,940 --> 00:03:37,624 Hoffa is indicted for a number of charges 68 00:03:37,718 --> 00:03:40,961 related to mob involvement with the Teamsters. 69 00:03:41,055 --> 00:03:42,554 Hoffa goes to prison, 70 00:03:42,781 --> 00:03:44,890 and he's out of the union but the mob remains. 71 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,061 - In December 1971, 72 00:03:49,288 --> 00:03:51,546 President Nixon commutes Hoffa's sentence 73 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,306 with one stipulation, 74 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:58,403 he can't manage any labor organization until 1980. 75 00:03:58,630 --> 00:03:59,980 - By 1973, 76 00:04:00,074 --> 00:04:02,299 Hoffa's already plotting 77 00:04:02,392 --> 00:04:05,302 to regain the presidency of the Teamsters. 78 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,471 - There's just one stumbling block. 79 00:04:07,489 --> 00:04:09,139 While in prison, 80 00:04:09,232 --> 00:04:12,325 Hoffa has run afoul of the Genovese family. 81 00:04:12,478 --> 00:04:15,495 And on July 30, 1975, 82 00:04:15,589 --> 00:04:17,481 he waits in the parking lot 83 00:04:17,574 --> 00:04:19,649 of the Machus Red Fox restaurant, 84 00:04:19,668 --> 00:04:23,411 hoping to make amends. 85 00:04:23,505 --> 00:04:24,930 - He's there for a meeting 86 00:04:25,081 --> 00:04:28,492 with associates of the Genovese crime family. 87 00:04:28,585 --> 00:04:30,752 He wants to talk to them about returning 88 00:04:30,846 --> 00:04:33,346 to run the Teamsters Union. 89 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,257 The Mafia has control of the Teamsters these days, 90 00:04:36,277 --> 00:04:39,019 and they really don't want Jimmy Hoffa back in charge, 91 00:04:39,113 --> 00:04:40,837 but they agree to the meeting. 92 00:04:40,856 --> 00:04:42,839 Problem is, they're late. 93 00:04:44,118 --> 00:04:46,693 - Witnesses see Hoffa pacing 94 00:04:46,845 --> 00:04:49,679 and making calls on a nearby payphone. 95 00:04:49,698 --> 00:04:52,182 After nearly an hour of waiting, 96 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,184 a red sedan pulls up. 97 00:04:54,202 --> 00:04:55,777 Hoffa gets in 98 00:04:55,871 --> 00:04:58,355 and is never heard from again. 99 00:05:02,878 --> 00:05:05,362 At 7:00 a.m. the next day, 100 00:05:05,455 --> 00:05:07,139 Hoffa's wife calls her children 101 00:05:07,290 --> 00:05:10,383 to say their father never came home. 102 00:05:10,536 --> 00:05:13,127 And by 7:20 a.m., 103 00:05:13,221 --> 00:05:15,463 Hoffa's assistant finds his car, 104 00:05:15,482 --> 00:05:19,376 unlocked in the restaurant parking lot. 105 00:05:19,469 --> 00:05:22,303 - As soon as Jimmy Hoffa is reported missing, 106 00:05:22,397 --> 00:05:23,971 the FBI gets involved. 107 00:05:24,066 --> 00:05:26,550 They're going to investigate the case. 108 00:05:26,568 --> 00:05:29,553 - Agents start at Hoffa's office. 109 00:05:29,646 --> 00:05:31,555 - His office appointment book says 110 00:05:31,573 --> 00:05:36,150 "TG, 2:00 p.m., Red Fox." 111 00:05:36,244 --> 00:05:41,989 "Red Fox" obviously refers to the Machus Red Fox restaurant. 112 00:05:42,084 --> 00:05:45,919 "TG" refers to Tony Giacalone, 113 00:05:46,013 --> 00:05:48,755 known as Tony Jack. 114 00:05:48,907 --> 00:05:50,832 - Tony Giacalone is a high-ranking member 115 00:05:50,926 --> 00:05:52,333 of the Detroit Mafia. 116 00:05:52,427 --> 00:05:54,001 And in many ways, 117 00:05:54,021 --> 00:05:58,023 Giacalone is Hoffa's liaison to the underworld. 118 00:05:58,250 --> 00:05:59,749 In order for Hoffa to once again 119 00:05:59,843 --> 00:06:01,601 become president of the Teamsters, 120 00:06:01,695 --> 00:06:04,696 he has to work things out with guys like Tony Giacalone. 121 00:06:04,848 --> 00:06:06,606 So they set up a sit-down, 122 00:06:06,758 --> 00:06:08,091 try to work things out. 123 00:06:10,278 --> 00:06:13,430 - But when the FBI questions eyewitnesses, 124 00:06:13,448 --> 00:06:17,450 they learn that Giacalone never showed up. 125 00:06:17,544 --> 00:06:21,271 So who's in the car that picks up Jimmy Hoffa? 126 00:06:21,289 --> 00:06:23,215 Not long before 3:00, 127 00:06:23,442 --> 00:06:26,943 there are eyewitnesses who see a maroon car, 128 00:06:27,036 --> 00:06:30,280 either a Lincoln or Mercury, pull up. 129 00:06:30,298 --> 00:06:33,892 It's unclear exactly who was in the car. 130 00:06:34,119 --> 00:06:35,042 According to the eye witnesses, 131 00:06:35,137 --> 00:06:36,895 he gets in of his own accord. 132 00:06:37,122 --> 00:06:38,955 So there's no struggle, doesn't seem like 133 00:06:39,048 --> 00:06:41,625 it was a kidnapping or an abduction. 134 00:06:41,643 --> 00:06:44,144 This is the last time that anyone sees Jimmy Hoffa, 135 00:06:44,238 --> 00:06:45,795 at least publicly. 136 00:06:45,814 --> 00:06:47,739 - They know who he was supposed to be meeting with, 137 00:06:47,891 --> 00:06:50,300 and so they start questioning and wiretapping 138 00:06:50,318 --> 00:06:52,244 known Mafia associates. 139 00:06:53,972 --> 00:06:56,823 - Starting with Tony Giacalone. 140 00:06:56,975 --> 00:06:59,476 - Investigators have no idea where Tony Jack is, 141 00:06:59,494 --> 00:07:01,311 but they start digging and they realize 142 00:07:01,329 --> 00:07:04,589 they do know where he was two days prior. 143 00:07:04,741 --> 00:07:06,166 They find out he was meeting with 144 00:07:06,318 --> 00:07:08,168 two very suspicious people 145 00:07:08,262 --> 00:07:11,488 who might provide a clue as to Hoffa's whereabouts. 146 00:07:11,506 --> 00:07:14,599 - Their names, Raffaele Quasarano 147 00:07:14,826 --> 00:07:16,584 and Peter Vitale. 148 00:07:16,678 --> 00:07:17,827 - Federal law enforcement 149 00:07:17,921 --> 00:07:20,180 are keeping guys like Quasarano and Vitale 150 00:07:20,332 --> 00:07:21,848 under surveillance. 151 00:07:21,942 --> 00:07:24,350 They're high-ranking members of the Detroit Mafia. 152 00:07:24,503 --> 00:07:26,594 They're involved in labor racketeering, 153 00:07:26,613 --> 00:07:31,024 drug trafficking, gambling, loan sharking, 154 00:07:31,118 --> 00:07:34,786 the usual crimes associated with members of the Mafia. 155 00:07:35,013 --> 00:07:39,516 - They also have another business that raises eyebrows. 156 00:07:39,534 --> 00:07:43,353 - They own a commercial incinerator 157 00:07:43,371 --> 00:07:45,797 in their business Central Sanitation. 158 00:07:48,877 --> 00:07:51,027 - Law enforcement suspects 159 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,472 that guys like Vitale and Quasarano 160 00:07:53,699 --> 00:07:56,199 use the incinerator to dispose of bodies. 161 00:07:57,869 --> 00:08:00,720 - Central Sanitation, in Hamtramck, Michigan, 162 00:08:00,872 --> 00:08:04,483 is just 20 miles from the Machus Red Fox restaurant. 163 00:08:04,710 --> 00:08:07,544 It's close enough to give the FBI a theory. 164 00:08:11,883 --> 00:08:14,567 - So the fact that they meet with Tony Giacalone 165 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,570 in the days leading up to the disappearance 166 00:08:17,723 --> 00:08:21,558 is very significant and has led some theorists to speculate 167 00:08:21,576 --> 00:08:24,836 that they were talking about preparing the incinerator 168 00:08:24,988 --> 00:08:27,397 to dispose of Jimmy Hoffa specifically. 169 00:08:29,918 --> 00:08:34,513 - But why would the Mafia order such a brutal hit? 170 00:08:34,664 --> 00:08:37,741 Could Hoffa's disappearance be tied to a beef 171 00:08:37,759 --> 00:08:40,519 that started years earlier in prison? 172 00:08:40,670 --> 00:08:43,838 - While he's in there, he publicly fights with 173 00:08:43,857 --> 00:08:47,842 a crime boss from the Genovese crime family 174 00:08:47,936 --> 00:08:50,344 named Anthony Provenzano. 175 00:08:50,438 --> 00:08:53,256 "Tony Pro" they call him. 176 00:08:53,275 --> 00:08:56,017 Like many mobsters, Tony Pro's family 177 00:08:56,036 --> 00:08:58,352 is collecting a union pension. 178 00:08:58,446 --> 00:09:00,354 But when Tony goes to prison, 179 00:09:00,448 --> 00:09:02,265 his benefits are cut off. 180 00:09:02,358 --> 00:09:04,951 Meanwhile, Jimmy Hoffa's family 181 00:09:05,103 --> 00:09:08,104 is still getting his pension benefits. 182 00:09:08,197 --> 00:09:10,715 - Tony Provenzano confronts Jimmy Hoffa, 183 00:09:10,942 --> 00:09:12,792 says, "Why should you be entitled to these benefits 184 00:09:12,944 --> 00:09:14,944 and not my family?" 185 00:09:14,963 --> 00:09:16,629 Jimmy Hoffa snaps backs, 186 00:09:16,782 --> 00:09:18,723 "It's because of people like you 187 00:09:18,875 --> 00:09:22,209 that I'm in here in the first place." 188 00:09:22,229 --> 00:09:25,212 - The Genovese crime family control the Teamsters, 189 00:09:25,232 --> 00:09:27,807 and they don't like Jimmy Hoffa. 190 00:09:27,901 --> 00:09:30,310 And they really don't want Hoffa back in charge. 191 00:09:30,404 --> 00:09:32,462 They want him gone. 192 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,722 - So the FBI believes he was killed, 193 00:09:34,816 --> 00:09:36,390 and then his body transported 194 00:09:36,484 --> 00:09:38,059 to Central Sanitation 195 00:09:38,078 --> 00:09:40,579 and incinerated. 196 00:09:40,806 --> 00:09:43,248 - The FBI hurries to prove their case, 197 00:09:43,475 --> 00:09:46,159 but unfortunately, the Genovese crime family 198 00:09:46,253 --> 00:09:48,587 seems to be one step ahead. 199 00:09:48,738 --> 00:09:51,923 - Within a few months of Hoffa's disappearance, 200 00:09:52,150 --> 00:09:56,577 Central Sanitation catches fire in an arson. 201 00:09:56,671 --> 00:09:59,431 Few months after that, the whole place is torn down. 202 00:09:59,658 --> 00:10:03,493 So any hope of recovering evidence disappears. 203 00:10:03,511 --> 00:10:07,163 And that's as far as the incinerator theory can get. 204 00:10:07,182 --> 00:10:09,590 - But that doesn't stop speculation 205 00:10:09,684 --> 00:10:11,668 about other possibilities. 206 00:10:11,686 --> 00:10:13,945 - People still want to know 207 00:10:14,172 --> 00:10:16,522 where did he end up, where did they put him? 208 00:10:24,015 --> 00:10:26,850 - Many experts believe Jimmy Hoffa is killed 209 00:10:26,868 --> 00:10:32,464 by members of the Mafia on July 30, 1975. 210 00:10:32,615 --> 00:10:35,041 The big questions are, "Who did it? 211 00:10:35,193 --> 00:10:37,877 And where is his body?" 212 00:10:37,971 --> 00:10:40,213 Then in 1989, 213 00:10:40,307 --> 00:10:43,549 a former mob associate says he knows the answer. 214 00:10:46,146 --> 00:10:47,812 - A hitman named Donald Frankos 215 00:10:48,039 --> 00:10:50,815 comes out with a pretty explosive story 216 00:10:50,967 --> 00:10:52,984 in "Playboy Magazine." 217 00:10:53,211 --> 00:10:55,654 - Frankos confirms the FBI's belief 218 00:10:55,881 --> 00:10:57,989 that Hoffa was murdered in a fight 219 00:10:58,141 --> 00:11:01,734 with the Genovese family over control of the Teamsters. 220 00:11:01,828 --> 00:11:05,830 And he also claims to know who pulled the trigger. 221 00:11:05,982 --> 00:11:08,391 - According to Frankos, Jimmy Hoffa was murdered 222 00:11:08,484 --> 00:11:11,503 by a gang known as the Westies 223 00:11:11,730 --> 00:11:14,414 on the orders of "Fat Tony" Salerno. 224 00:11:18,086 --> 00:11:20,069 - According to the FBI, 225 00:11:20,088 --> 00:11:24,090 the Westies and their founder, Jimmy Coonan, are responsible 226 00:11:24,242 --> 00:11:29,521 for as many as 100 murders from 1968 to 1986. 227 00:11:29,748 --> 00:11:31,856 - They're one of the main hit squads 228 00:11:32,008 --> 00:11:34,267 on the mob's payroll. 229 00:11:34,419 --> 00:11:35,843 They're involved in racketeering, 230 00:11:35,937 --> 00:11:37,937 and they help the mob control 231 00:11:38,089 --> 00:11:40,681 a lot of the major construction projects 232 00:11:40,701 --> 00:11:41,941 in New York at the time, 233 00:11:42,093 --> 00:11:44,202 like Madison Square Garden 234 00:11:44,353 --> 00:11:45,870 and Javits Center. 235 00:11:46,022 --> 00:11:48,039 - Frankos claims he's in tight with the Westies. 236 00:11:48,266 --> 00:11:50,266 As a matter of fact, they wanted him 237 00:11:50,359 --> 00:11:52,877 to be the triggerman on Hoffa. 238 00:11:53,029 --> 00:11:55,547 But he's in prison at the time and he can't do it. 239 00:11:55,774 --> 00:11:57,957 - But he says Jimmy Coonan himself 240 00:11:58,109 --> 00:12:00,777 told him how it all went down. 241 00:12:00,870 --> 00:12:03,221 - Wind back to that red car. 242 00:12:03,448 --> 00:12:04,964 - As we know, a little before 3:00, 243 00:12:05,058 --> 00:12:07,967 Hoffa is picked up by a red Mercury Marquis 244 00:12:08,119 --> 00:12:10,620 at the Machus Red Fox. 245 00:12:10,638 --> 00:12:13,289 He thinks he's gonna go meet with Tony Jack. 246 00:12:13,308 --> 00:12:15,049 But when he's driven to the meeting spot, 247 00:12:15,143 --> 00:12:18,478 it's Jimmy Coonan and the Westies that are waiting. 248 00:12:18,630 --> 00:12:20,813 So the Westies put two bullets in Hoffa's head. 249 00:12:24,819 --> 00:12:26,911 But rather than dump the body right away, 250 00:12:27,138 --> 00:12:29,822 Frankos claims that they had another plan. 251 00:12:29,975 --> 00:12:34,902 - They don't just want to burn the body or hide him away. 252 00:12:34,921 --> 00:12:37,146 - Frankos says the Westies store Hoffa's remains 253 00:12:37,165 --> 00:12:38,481 for five months 254 00:12:38,574 --> 00:12:41,259 until they can decide what to do. 255 00:12:41,486 --> 00:12:43,319 - They don't want to attract undue attention, 256 00:12:43,338 --> 00:12:45,154 so it's not like they can string him up 257 00:12:45,173 --> 00:12:47,673 or just leave his body laying in the street. 258 00:12:47,768 --> 00:12:49,826 But they do want to let other criminals know, 259 00:12:49,844 --> 00:12:52,011 even if you're famous like Jimmy Hoffa, 260 00:12:52,163 --> 00:12:53,513 we can always get you. 261 00:12:53,607 --> 00:12:55,848 And in December of 1975, 262 00:12:55,942 --> 00:12:57,350 they finally think they had the perfect place. 263 00:13:02,265 --> 00:13:04,357 - At the time, a new Giants Stadium 264 00:13:04,509 --> 00:13:05,933 is under construction 265 00:13:05,952 --> 00:13:08,602 in East Rutherford, New Jersey, 266 00:13:08,622 --> 00:13:11,939 an area known as the Meadowlands. 267 00:13:12,033 --> 00:13:15,126 - The Meadowlands were already a notorious dumping ground 268 00:13:15,278 --> 00:13:17,111 for mob victims. 269 00:13:17,130 --> 00:13:20,114 In fact, while they were constructing Giants Stadium, 270 00:13:20,208 --> 00:13:21,858 the construction crew 271 00:13:21,876 --> 00:13:26,045 kept running into a lot of dumped bodies. 272 00:13:26,197 --> 00:13:27,697 - Each time they found a body, 273 00:13:27,715 --> 00:13:29,140 they'd call the prosecutor's office 274 00:13:29,292 --> 00:13:31,125 and say, "Hey, we found another one." 275 00:13:31,144 --> 00:13:33,460 But then construction would have to stop, 276 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,204 they'd have to wait for an investigation, 277 00:13:35,223 --> 00:13:36,815 and it was slowing the whole thing down. 278 00:13:36,966 --> 00:13:38,983 So after the fifth body, 279 00:13:39,135 --> 00:13:42,045 they just stopped calling. 280 00:13:42,063 --> 00:13:45,139 And that's why timing is perfect for the mob. 281 00:13:45,158 --> 00:13:48,401 Not only have they stopped looking for bodies, 282 00:13:48,553 --> 00:13:51,054 but a big concrete pour is scheduled. 283 00:13:51,072 --> 00:13:53,998 And guess who's in charge of the concrete trucks? 284 00:13:54,150 --> 00:13:55,908 The Genovese family. 285 00:13:57,562 --> 00:13:59,170 - Frankos says that Hoffa's body 286 00:13:59,397 --> 00:14:01,898 is brought to New Jersey in an oil drum, 287 00:14:01,916 --> 00:14:03,508 just before the concrete arrives 288 00:14:03,735 --> 00:14:06,736 for the stadium's west end zone. 289 00:14:06,829 --> 00:14:08,513 - Frankos even claimed to know 290 00:14:08,740 --> 00:14:13,092 exactly where they were gonna put Hoffa: 291 00:14:13,244 --> 00:14:17,021 in the end zone, Section 107 in the corner, 292 00:14:17,248 --> 00:14:18,414 right where they were scheduled 293 00:14:18,507 --> 00:14:21,267 to pour 30 tons of concrete. 294 00:14:21,361 --> 00:14:24,420 Frankos describes it like a sick joke amongst the mob. 295 00:14:24,439 --> 00:14:26,513 Whenever a touchdown is scored, 296 00:14:26,608 --> 00:14:27,940 they toast and say, 297 00:14:28,093 --> 00:14:29,775 "Hey, Jimmy, that one's for you." 298 00:14:32,430 --> 00:14:35,264 While it wasn't common knowledge amongst the public, 299 00:14:35,283 --> 00:14:37,691 at least until this interview came out, 300 00:14:37,785 --> 00:14:40,953 it was well known throughout the criminal underworld 301 00:14:41,106 --> 00:14:43,606 where Jimmy Hoffa was. 302 00:14:43,699 --> 00:14:45,124 They put him in the ground, 303 00:14:45,276 --> 00:14:48,961 and he's right there on TV every Sunday. 304 00:14:49,114 --> 00:14:51,130 And that's why you don't mess with the mob. 305 00:14:56,471 --> 00:15:00,473 - But when Giants Stadium is demolished in August 2010, 306 00:15:00,567 --> 00:15:04,551 the FBI doesn't bother to conduct a dig. 307 00:15:04,571 --> 00:15:07,888 - Demolition crews only went down about four feet 308 00:15:07,908 --> 00:15:12,243 and word has it that Hoffa's way deeper than that. 309 00:15:12,395 --> 00:15:15,638 I guess the FBI didn't put enough trust in Donald Frankos 310 00:15:15,657 --> 00:15:17,807 to excavate down that low. 311 00:15:24,999 --> 00:15:28,575 - Some suggest the theory simply doesn't add up. 312 00:15:28,595 --> 00:15:31,487 - I don't understand why you would risk 313 00:15:31,580 --> 00:15:33,156 putting a body in a vehicle 314 00:15:33,249 --> 00:15:36,159 and transporting it cross-country, 315 00:15:36,177 --> 00:15:38,770 especially a body 316 00:15:38,997 --> 00:15:41,164 with the notoriety of Jimmy Hoffa. 317 00:15:41,182 --> 00:15:42,941 It just doesn't make sense. 318 00:15:43,168 --> 00:15:45,017 - Which leads to a very different idea 319 00:15:45,170 --> 00:15:46,593 on what happened to Hoffa, 320 00:15:46,613 --> 00:15:49,005 from someone who knew him well. 321 00:15:49,098 --> 00:15:50,281 - There's no doubt in my mind 322 00:15:50,433 --> 00:15:52,508 I know where Mr. Hoffa's body is, 323 00:15:52,601 --> 00:15:54,677 and it's not in New Jersey. 324 00:15:54,696 --> 00:15:56,846 - Marvin Elkind was Hoffa's driver 325 00:15:56,864 --> 00:15:59,940 during his first term as Teamsters president. 326 00:15:59,960 --> 00:16:02,034 - The guy spent years with Hoffa, 327 00:16:02,187 --> 00:16:04,945 literally sitting two feet in front of him. 328 00:16:05,039 --> 00:16:06,856 He may be closer to Hoffa 329 00:16:06,949 --> 00:16:09,300 than any other person left alive today. 330 00:16:09,452 --> 00:16:12,303 So if he says he's got a theory on where he ended up, 331 00:16:12,455 --> 00:16:13,379 I'd listen to him. 332 00:16:15,550 --> 00:16:18,643 - Elkind first meets Hoffa in the late 1950s. 333 00:16:34,402 --> 00:16:36,160 They used to come in a lot. 334 00:16:36,387 --> 00:16:39,146 I stole bottles of booze from the bar, 335 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:40,573 and I brought it to them. 336 00:16:40,725 --> 00:16:42,166 And they were very big tippers. 337 00:16:42,393 --> 00:16:45,169 I liked them a lot. They were nice guys. 338 00:16:45,396 --> 00:16:48,414 - One day, a Genovese family big wig 339 00:16:48,566 --> 00:16:50,341 offers him a new opportunity. 340 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,578 I said, "Why? I'm trying so hard to do a good job." 341 00:17:02,597 --> 00:17:05,172 He says, "As of Monday, 342 00:17:05,191 --> 00:17:07,174 "you've got a new job. 343 00:17:07,193 --> 00:17:10,086 You're gonna be the driver for Jimmy Hoffa." 344 00:17:10,179 --> 00:17:11,863 Now I didn't know Mr. Hoffa, 345 00:17:12,014 --> 00:17:14,198 but I knew his reputation. 346 00:17:14,425 --> 00:17:16,592 And when they said that, I got scared. 347 00:17:18,112 --> 00:17:21,113 Mr. Hoffa was very tight with the Mafia 348 00:17:21,207 --> 00:17:25,526 and the go-between was Fat Tony Salerno. 349 00:17:25,545 --> 00:17:29,863 First time I met Mr. Hoffa, I opened up the door 350 00:17:29,883 --> 00:17:34,293 and I said, "Good morning, Mr. Hoffa." 351 00:17:34,445 --> 00:17:36,870 He said, "Are you Marvin?" I go, "Yes, sir." 352 00:17:36,890 --> 00:17:38,890 He says, "Very good start. Excellent. 353 00:17:39,117 --> 00:17:41,951 Remember, it's 'Mr. Hoffa' or 'Sir.'" 354 00:17:41,969 --> 00:17:43,302 Scared the hell out of me. 355 00:17:48,401 --> 00:17:51,294 - Hoffa conducts much of his business from the car, 356 00:17:51,387 --> 00:17:53,905 and Elkind hears everything. 357 00:17:54,132 --> 00:17:56,465 - The guy is low on the food chain. 358 00:17:56,484 --> 00:17:58,968 He's kind of an errand boy. 359 00:17:59,061 --> 00:18:00,986 But he's sitting there in the front seat 360 00:18:01,081 --> 00:18:03,823 right in front of Jimmy Hoffa, day in and day out. 361 00:18:03,975 --> 00:18:06,826 You can only just imagine the kind of things that he heard. 362 00:18:08,421 --> 00:18:12,256 - When Elkind starts working, Hoffa has two rules. 363 00:18:37,951 --> 00:18:40,785 - Today, Elkind is ready to break one of those rules. 364 00:18:46,775 --> 00:18:49,201 - In the 47 years since his disappearance, 365 00:18:49,354 --> 00:18:53,372 Jimmy Hoffa's whereabouts remain a mystery. 366 00:18:53,466 --> 00:18:57,618 Until his former driver Marvin Elkind says he knows, 367 00:18:57,637 --> 00:19:01,380 and that everyone has been looking in the wrong place. 368 00:19:01,474 --> 00:19:02,882 - There's no doubt in my mind 369 00:19:03,034 --> 00:19:05,217 I know where Mr. Hoffa's body is. 370 00:19:08,373 --> 00:19:11,223 - After Hoffa is picked up by the red car, 371 00:19:11,376 --> 00:19:12,375 what happens next? 372 00:19:12,393 --> 00:19:13,634 - According to Elkind, 373 00:19:13,728 --> 00:19:15,820 he's shot to death at a nearby house, 374 00:19:15,971 --> 00:19:17,638 stuffed into the trunk of a car, 375 00:19:17,657 --> 00:19:20,658 and they've already decided exactly where to put him. 376 00:19:37,326 --> 00:19:39,735 - The Renaissance Center is mid-construction 377 00:19:39,754 --> 00:19:42,138 at the time Hoffa disappears. 378 00:19:50,005 --> 00:19:52,190 They put him in the planks 379 00:19:52,341 --> 00:19:54,250 and poured the concrete on top of him. 380 00:19:55,695 --> 00:19:57,086 - The next day, 381 00:19:57,179 --> 00:20:00,198 practically every union carpenter in Detroit 382 00:20:00,349 --> 00:20:02,925 is there just building right on top of him, 383 00:20:02,944 --> 00:20:05,018 completely oblivious. 384 00:20:05,038 --> 00:20:08,948 I mean, what a place to put union hero Jimmy Hoffa. 385 00:20:09,100 --> 00:20:12,268 The mob really does have a sick sense of humor sometimes. 386 00:20:13,771 --> 00:20:15,696 - And according to Elkind, 387 00:20:15,790 --> 00:20:17,106 it's that same sense of humor 388 00:20:17,124 --> 00:20:20,218 that gives away the mob's secret. 389 00:20:31,138 --> 00:20:34,398 - Tony Pro, the Genovese boss 390 00:20:34,550 --> 00:20:36,883 who had a prison feud with Hoffa. 391 00:20:36,903 --> 00:20:39,070 - He's walking past the construction site, 392 00:20:39,221 --> 00:20:42,406 where they're pouring concrete footings every day. 393 00:20:42,558 --> 00:20:45,484 - Tony Pro turned to everybody and said, 394 00:20:45,578 --> 00:20:48,913 "Guys, say good morning to Mr. Jimmy Hoffa." 395 00:20:55,571 --> 00:20:57,813 All the top brass were laughing. 396 00:20:57,906 --> 00:21:00,332 That was all the proof I needed. 397 00:21:00,485 --> 00:21:03,319 - Elkind says this all could have been avoided 398 00:21:03,412 --> 00:21:05,821 if Hoffa had just listened to him. 399 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,509 Marvin's kept in touch with the Genovese family, 400 00:21:10,661 --> 00:21:14,179 and he's heard that Hoffa's a target. 401 00:21:14,332 --> 00:21:16,665 - Marvin wants to have a sit-down with Hoffa. 402 00:21:16,684 --> 00:21:20,111 He wants to warn him that certain people aren't happy. 403 00:21:20,338 --> 00:21:23,781 He knows they're gonna take him out. 404 00:21:23,932 --> 00:21:26,266 - Shortly before he goes missing, 405 00:21:26,360 --> 00:21:27,910 Hoffa meets with Elkind. 406 00:21:48,215 --> 00:21:51,033 I told Mr. Hoffa what the word was. 407 00:21:51,052 --> 00:21:53,978 Mr. Hoffa just told me, 408 00:21:54,129 --> 00:21:56,722 "Marvin, my people will never harm me." 409 00:21:58,225 --> 00:22:00,225 Mr. Hoffa went missing, 410 00:22:00,378 --> 00:22:03,637 and immediately, the concrete was poured. 411 00:22:03,731 --> 00:22:05,489 Nobody has ever seen him again. 412 00:22:07,234 --> 00:22:08,975 - Hoffa thought he was untouchable, 413 00:22:09,070 --> 00:22:11,329 that he had an army of thousands 414 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,557 of blue-collar workers behind him. 415 00:22:14,575 --> 00:22:16,834 But when the mob wants you out of the way, 416 00:22:16,985 --> 00:22:19,061 not even an army can protect you 417 00:22:19,154 --> 00:22:20,504 from a few capos with guns. 418 00:22:24,068 --> 00:22:25,826 - In 2016, 419 00:22:25,845 --> 00:22:27,736 another witness steps forward 420 00:22:27,830 --> 00:22:30,422 to back up Elkind's story. 421 00:22:30,516 --> 00:22:33,242 - Former corrections officer Michael Yarbrough 422 00:22:33,260 --> 00:22:35,077 claims to have actually witnessed 423 00:22:35,096 --> 00:22:37,429 Hoffa's burial at the Renaissance Center. 424 00:22:37,582 --> 00:22:40,099 Yarbrough says that at 3:20 p.m., 425 00:22:40,251 --> 00:22:43,176 half an hour or so after Hoffa is picked up 426 00:22:43,196 --> 00:22:46,088 at the Machus Red Fox restaurant, 427 00:22:46,107 --> 00:22:48,014 he's walking past the construction site 428 00:22:48,109 --> 00:22:50,201 and he hears a struggle. 429 00:22:50,352 --> 00:22:53,262 He looks and he sees a cement truck, 430 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,099 a 1975 maroon Mercury Marquis, 431 00:22:57,118 --> 00:23:00,694 and two guys pushing Jimmy Hoffa into a huge hole 432 00:23:00,788 --> 00:23:03,439 where a pillar is gonna be built. 433 00:23:03,457 --> 00:23:05,941 Apparently, a third guy 434 00:23:06,034 --> 00:23:08,110 sees Yarbrough snooping and runs up and says, 435 00:23:08,129 --> 00:23:10,446 "Hey, you better keep moving or you're gonna be next." 436 00:23:10,464 --> 00:23:12,464 So he runs out of there 437 00:23:12,617 --> 00:23:14,133 and he hides until they're gone. 438 00:23:15,970 --> 00:23:18,211 - But once again, without a body, 439 00:23:18,305 --> 00:23:21,957 the Renaissance theory remains impossible to prove. 440 00:23:22,050 --> 00:23:23,959 - It's a major supporting pillar 441 00:23:23,978 --> 00:23:25,403 of one of the most iconic 442 00:23:25,554 --> 00:23:28,464 and recognizable buildings in Michigan. 443 00:23:28,482 --> 00:23:29,740 They're never gonna dig that thing up. 444 00:23:36,474 --> 00:23:37,823 - On December 9, 1982, 445 00:23:37,975 --> 00:23:40,233 after a seven-year investigation, 446 00:23:40,327 --> 00:23:42,494 Jimmy Hoffa is declared legally dead 447 00:23:42,647 --> 00:23:44,255 by a Michigan judge. 448 00:23:44,482 --> 00:23:47,240 But when the FBI publicly releases a report 449 00:23:47,334 --> 00:23:48,592 called the "Hoffex Memo," 450 00:23:48,744 --> 00:23:51,578 detailing the leads they followed in the case, 451 00:23:51,597 --> 00:23:53,597 one line jumps out, 452 00:23:53,824 --> 00:23:56,249 "No evidence has been developed to date 453 00:23:56,269 --> 00:23:58,160 "which would prove that James R. Hoffa 454 00:23:58,253 --> 00:24:00,938 is either dead or alive." 455 00:24:01,165 --> 00:24:03,107 After years of theories on his death, 456 00:24:03,334 --> 00:24:07,503 is it possible that Hoffa is still alive? 457 00:24:10,191 --> 00:24:12,616 - Six months into the investigation, 458 00:24:12,843 --> 00:24:15,268 the FBI produces this really important document 459 00:24:15,362 --> 00:24:19,290 known as the Hoffex Memo. 460 00:24:19,441 --> 00:24:22,293 - It's a veritable "who's who" of Mafia names. 461 00:24:26,874 --> 00:24:28,691 It reads like a Hollywood script 462 00:24:28,709 --> 00:24:31,785 with every mobster you've ever heard of involved. 463 00:24:31,804 --> 00:24:34,863 Tony Pro, Tony Jack, 464 00:24:34,882 --> 00:24:37,366 Fat Tony, the Irishman, 465 00:24:37,384 --> 00:24:39,643 every mobster you've ever heard of, 466 00:24:39,870 --> 00:24:42,054 they're listed in the Hoffex Memo. 467 00:24:42,206 --> 00:24:44,798 - And while the memo is full of names, 468 00:24:44,892 --> 00:24:48,301 it's lacking in evidence. 469 00:24:48,395 --> 00:24:51,822 - Eventually, the investigation leads to a grand jury. 470 00:24:52,049 --> 00:24:54,883 They identify 95 people that they want 471 00:24:54,977 --> 00:24:57,386 to testify before the jury 472 00:24:57,404 --> 00:25:00,313 but almost everyone takes the Fifth. 473 00:25:00,333 --> 00:25:02,666 - This memo lists so many people and so many theories, 474 00:25:02,893 --> 00:25:05,836 and in the end, after each story, it says 475 00:25:06,063 --> 00:25:08,080 we can't corroborate any of this. 476 00:25:08,232 --> 00:25:10,065 Maybe it's this, but we can't prove it. 477 00:25:10,084 --> 00:25:11,675 Maybe it's that, we can't prove it. 478 00:25:11,827 --> 00:25:13,569 It just goes around and around in circles. 479 00:25:13,587 --> 00:25:16,013 It's like a smokescreen. 480 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,832 - But why would the FBI try to hide the truth 481 00:25:18,851 --> 00:25:21,093 about Hoffa's disappearance? 482 00:25:21,187 --> 00:25:22,686 - Why? 483 00:25:22,838 --> 00:25:26,673 Because he's actually a government informant. 484 00:25:26,767 --> 00:25:29,101 - Around the time of his death, 485 00:25:29,253 --> 00:25:33,422 many speculate Jimmy Hoffa's cooperating with the feds. 486 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,258 - Once again, it comes down to the Teamsters, 487 00:25:36,277 --> 00:25:39,094 the former source of all of Hoffa's power. 488 00:25:39,187 --> 00:25:40,929 He wants that power back, 489 00:25:40,948 --> 00:25:43,448 but Nixon's banned him from union leadership 490 00:25:43,601 --> 00:25:46,618 as part of the deal that gets him out of prison. 491 00:25:46,771 --> 00:25:49,863 The government has taken Hoffa's ability to lead 492 00:25:49,957 --> 00:25:51,957 and if he wants it back, 493 00:25:52,051 --> 00:25:55,127 he's gonna have to make a deal with the government. 494 00:25:55,279 --> 00:25:58,556 Luckily, he's got a lot of bargaining power. 495 00:26:00,726 --> 00:26:03,302 - Over the years, Hoffa has had a front row seat 496 00:26:03,454 --> 00:26:07,139 to the inner workings of the Mafia. 497 00:26:07,291 --> 00:26:11,810 - Jimmy Hoffa knows where the bodies are buried. 498 00:26:11,962 --> 00:26:14,387 He knows they're involved in Vegas, 499 00:26:14,407 --> 00:26:16,907 that they're skimming money. 500 00:26:17,134 --> 00:26:20,744 He knows that they have these sweetheart pension deals 501 00:26:20,971 --> 00:26:23,080 and no-show jobs. 502 00:26:23,231 --> 00:26:26,584 He would be an invaluable asset and informant 503 00:26:26,735 --> 00:26:28,660 to the federal government. 504 00:26:28,813 --> 00:26:31,997 - Clearly, he's in a very dangerous position, 505 00:26:32,091 --> 00:26:35,484 caught between the mob and the U.S. government. 506 00:26:35,502 --> 00:26:39,096 - And on July 30, 1975, 507 00:26:39,247 --> 00:26:42,916 some theorists believe Hoffa isn't killed. 508 00:26:42,935 --> 00:26:44,509 He's rescued. 509 00:26:45,921 --> 00:26:48,513 - Let's go back to the Machus Red Fox. 510 00:26:48,666 --> 00:26:52,167 - We know that Hoffa's Mafia associates stand him up, 511 00:26:52,186 --> 00:26:53,685 they're not showing up to the meeting. 512 00:26:53,779 --> 00:26:55,428 He's upset. 513 00:26:55,522 --> 00:26:56,672 - But the fact that they're late 514 00:26:56,690 --> 00:26:58,340 just might have saved his life. 515 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,618 - What if the car that shows up 516 00:27:00,769 --> 00:27:03,120 is not full of wise guys and mobsters 517 00:27:03,347 --> 00:27:05,347 but it's actually the Justice Department? 518 00:27:05,366 --> 00:27:07,349 - They've heard that there's a hit out on Jimmy, 519 00:27:07,442 --> 00:27:10,686 and they swoop in to intercept him 520 00:27:10,779 --> 00:27:12,371 before the mobsters can get there. 521 00:27:16,451 --> 00:27:20,120 - If the FBI is trying to hide Jimmy Hoffa, 522 00:27:20,214 --> 00:27:22,622 the question is, where? 523 00:27:22,716 --> 00:27:25,142 - One theory suggests that 524 00:27:25,369 --> 00:27:27,794 actually Hoffa lives out his final days 525 00:27:27,813 --> 00:27:31,798 in Mexico or somewhere on the beach 526 00:27:31,817 --> 00:27:34,300 and lives happily ever after. 527 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,229 I have a very difficult time accepting that theory. 528 00:27:37,381 --> 00:27:39,823 - To me, the Witness Protection theory 529 00:27:39,975 --> 00:27:42,234 is laughable for a lot of reasons, 530 00:27:42,386 --> 00:27:43,902 but the main one is, how the hell 531 00:27:43,996 --> 00:27:46,664 do you hide Jimmy Hoffa? I mean, look at him. 532 00:27:46,815 --> 00:27:49,741 - He's one of the most recognizable public figures, 533 00:27:49,894 --> 00:27:51,226 political leaders. 534 00:27:51,319 --> 00:27:53,486 But also, Jimmy Hoffa loved the spotlight. 535 00:27:53,580 --> 00:27:55,914 Does he strike you as someone who would accept a deal 536 00:27:56,066 --> 00:27:57,508 with the federal government 537 00:27:57,735 --> 00:28:00,068 to spend the rest of his life in hiding? 538 00:28:00,162 --> 00:28:02,346 He wanted to be on the front lines, 539 00:28:02,497 --> 00:28:03,830 plus, people would recognize him. 540 00:28:03,849 --> 00:28:06,408 Just doesn't hold up. 541 00:28:06,501 --> 00:28:09,335 - Which leads to an entirely different theory 542 00:28:09,355 --> 00:28:12,748 involving another top secret government agency. 543 00:28:15,861 --> 00:28:18,845 - This theory starts the same as the last. 544 00:28:18,864 --> 00:28:21,256 He gets picked up by the feds because he intends 545 00:28:21,275 --> 00:28:23,442 to cooperate with the government, 546 00:28:23,594 --> 00:28:26,445 hopefully, to get permission to lead the Teamsters again. 547 00:28:26,539 --> 00:28:30,265 And as it turns out, in 1975, 548 00:28:30,284 --> 00:28:33,711 right when Hoffa is looking to regain presidency of the union, 549 00:28:33,938 --> 00:28:37,548 there's a brand-new senate investigation ramping up, 550 00:28:37,775 --> 00:28:40,292 and it gives him the perfect opportunity. 551 00:28:40,386 --> 00:28:43,462 - And the perfect leverage. 552 00:28:43,614 --> 00:28:46,782 - The Senate is investigating the CIA 553 00:28:46,875 --> 00:28:49,209 and Hoffa knows about one of the dirtiest deals 554 00:28:49,303 --> 00:28:52,454 the CIA ever did. 555 00:28:52,473 --> 00:28:55,974 It's called Operation Mongoose. 556 00:28:56,068 --> 00:28:59,478 - Was Hoffa planning to testify against the CIA 557 00:28:59,572 --> 00:29:02,239 to get back in control of the Teamsters? 558 00:29:02,466 --> 00:29:04,132 And if so, 559 00:29:04,151 --> 00:29:06,468 could that have gotten him killed? 560 00:29:11,809 --> 00:29:13,658 - Operation Mongoose was a collaboration 561 00:29:13,753 --> 00:29:17,329 between the CIA and the Italian Mafia in America. 562 00:29:17,481 --> 00:29:20,406 It was an assassination plot to eliminate 563 00:29:20,426 --> 00:29:23,986 Cuban dictator Fidel Castro. 564 00:29:24,004 --> 00:29:26,838 The Mafia had casinos, 565 00:29:26,932 --> 00:29:29,007 they had their money in banks in Cuba. 566 00:29:29,159 --> 00:29:32,269 And when Castro took power, 567 00:29:32,420 --> 00:29:34,754 he kicked them all out, arrested some of them, 568 00:29:34,848 --> 00:29:36,665 stole all their money. 569 00:29:36,683 --> 00:29:38,350 - The Mafia wants Castro out of the way 570 00:29:38,444 --> 00:29:40,018 so they can go back in 571 00:29:40,170 --> 00:29:43,429 and start up their businesses again in the vice rackets. 572 00:29:43,524 --> 00:29:45,841 - The way the CIA looked at it was 573 00:29:45,934 --> 00:29:48,860 our enemy's enemy is our friend. 574 00:29:50,939 --> 00:29:53,106 - A federal agent reaches out to mobster 575 00:29:53,125 --> 00:29:54,699 Johnny Roselli 576 00:29:54,852 --> 00:29:56,609 and Sam Giancana, 577 00:29:56,703 --> 00:30:00,188 another well-known mob personality out of Chicago. 578 00:30:00,207 --> 00:30:02,024 These guys agree to do the hit. 579 00:30:02,042 --> 00:30:04,026 As we know, it was never completed. 580 00:30:04,044 --> 00:30:05,618 But the request was made, 581 00:30:05,638 --> 00:30:08,639 and the CIA will do anything to keep that a secret. 582 00:30:08,790 --> 00:30:13,885 - And some think that includes getting rid of Jimmy Hoffa. 583 00:30:14,038 --> 00:30:16,888 - Hoffa and Sam Giancana have been doing business together 584 00:30:17,041 --> 00:30:19,483 in the back of Hoffa's car for years. 585 00:30:19,634 --> 00:30:21,819 He's heard all the stories. The question is, 586 00:30:21,970 --> 00:30:24,154 is he so desperate to run the Teamsters again 587 00:30:24,306 --> 00:30:26,139 that he would tell these stories 588 00:30:26,233 --> 00:30:28,325 to the Senate Investigation Committee? 589 00:30:28,552 --> 00:30:31,144 - According to this theory's supporters, 590 00:30:31,238 --> 00:30:35,481 Hoffa and his Mafia associates are all planning to talk. 591 00:30:35,576 --> 00:30:40,170 - Giancana, Roselli, and Hoffa were all subpoenaed 592 00:30:40,322 --> 00:30:43,732 to provide testimony in front of this Senate hearing. 593 00:30:43,750 --> 00:30:47,010 - But none of them make it to Washington. 594 00:30:47,162 --> 00:30:50,663 - Sam Giancana was murdered in May. 595 00:30:50,683 --> 00:30:53,758 Hoffa was supposed to testify in August of '75. 596 00:30:53,911 --> 00:30:56,854 He was murdered on July 30, 1975. 597 00:30:57,081 --> 00:30:59,431 And then Johnny Roselli was supposed to testify 598 00:30:59,583 --> 00:31:01,600 in August of 1976, 599 00:31:01,752 --> 00:31:04,510 and his body was found floating in Biscayne Bay 600 00:31:04,530 --> 00:31:06,530 in a 50-gallon drum. 601 00:31:06,757 --> 00:31:09,441 - Is it possible the CIA took out all three 602 00:31:09,593 --> 00:31:10,868 to keep things quiet? 603 00:31:14,373 --> 00:31:16,689 - While we may never know the answer, 604 00:31:16,709 --> 00:31:18,433 one thing is clear, 605 00:31:18,526 --> 00:31:22,379 any hope of finding Hoffa alive is now gone. 606 00:31:22,530 --> 00:31:24,715 - Jimmy Hoffa would be 108 years old today. 607 00:31:24,866 --> 00:31:26,608 So if we find any remnants of him, 608 00:31:26,627 --> 00:31:28,552 it's gonna be his bones. 609 00:31:28,779 --> 00:31:31,537 You're not gonna roll into a Burger King 610 00:31:31,632 --> 00:31:32,964 in Kalamazoo, Michigan, 611 00:31:33,117 --> 00:31:35,784 and find him having a Whopper with Elvis 612 00:31:35,802 --> 00:31:37,452 and Jim Morrison. 613 00:31:37,471 --> 00:31:39,955 That's-- That's not gonna happen. 614 00:31:39,973 --> 00:31:41,714 - But one man thinks he knows 615 00:31:41,808 --> 00:31:44,459 exactly where Hoffa's body is. 616 00:31:44,552 --> 00:31:46,904 And it's not where anyone expects. 617 00:31:55,472 --> 00:31:57,155 - Within days of Jimmy Hoffa's disappearance, 618 00:31:57,307 --> 00:31:58,807 multiple underworld tipsters 619 00:31:58,825 --> 00:32:01,159 claim to know his whereabouts, 620 00:32:01,253 --> 00:32:03,995 including Trenton State Penitentiary inmate 621 00:32:04,089 --> 00:32:05,923 Ralph Picardo. 622 00:32:10,988 --> 00:32:14,489 - This incredible story starts August 4th, 1975. 623 00:32:14,508 --> 00:32:17,434 That was only five days after Hoffa's disappearance. 624 00:32:19,772 --> 00:32:22,255 - Picardo is doing 20 years for manslaughter 625 00:32:22,274 --> 00:32:24,849 when his accountant showed up with the Andretta brothers, 626 00:32:24,944 --> 00:32:27,093 Stephen and Thomas. 627 00:32:27,187 --> 00:32:28,520 These guys worked for 628 00:32:28,672 --> 00:32:31,597 the Genovese family crime boss Tony Pro, 629 00:32:31,617 --> 00:32:35,193 who everyone agrees had problems with Jimmy Hoffa. 630 00:32:35,345 --> 00:32:37,529 - Stephen Andretta tells Picardo 631 00:32:37,681 --> 00:32:39,790 what happened to Hoffa a few days before. 632 00:32:40,017 --> 00:32:42,459 He said he knew the whole thing. 633 00:32:42,686 --> 00:32:44,186 A few months later, Picardo decided 634 00:32:44,204 --> 00:32:46,371 he'd turn state's evidence. 635 00:32:46,523 --> 00:32:47,965 - Now Picardo might be 636 00:32:48,116 --> 00:32:49,615 just looking for a lighter sentence, 637 00:32:49,635 --> 00:32:53,361 but he reveals the whole story as told by Andretta. 638 00:32:54,865 --> 00:32:57,382 - It begins, once again, in the parking lot 639 00:32:57,534 --> 00:33:01,369 of the Machus Red Fox on July 30th. 640 00:33:01,388 --> 00:33:02,646 - Picardo tells the FBI 641 00:33:02,797 --> 00:33:04,464 a familiar story in the beginning. 642 00:33:04,558 --> 00:33:08,393 He said Hoffa was picked up in the restaurant parking lot. 643 00:33:08,487 --> 00:33:12,305 - In the car are Sally Bugs, Thomas Andretta, 644 00:33:12,324 --> 00:33:14,216 and Vito Giacalone, 645 00:33:14,309 --> 00:33:17,310 that's Tony's little brother. 646 00:33:17,404 --> 00:33:19,554 - Hoffa thought he was gonna be meeting with Tony Jack, 647 00:33:19,573 --> 00:33:20,980 so he wouldn't be too concerned about 648 00:33:21,074 --> 00:33:23,725 these extra people in the car. 649 00:33:23,744 --> 00:33:27,671 And they take him to this so-called meeting spot. 650 00:33:27,822 --> 00:33:31,508 There, Sally Bugs shoots him twice in the head. 651 00:33:31,659 --> 00:33:35,587 - Picardo says that Genovese crime boss, Tony Pro, 652 00:33:35,681 --> 00:33:38,590 ordered the hit and directed the Andretta brothers 653 00:33:38,684 --> 00:33:42,502 to carry it out all the way from back in Jersey City. 654 00:33:42,521 --> 00:33:44,596 - And according to Picardo, 655 00:33:44,690 --> 00:33:48,250 Tony Pro wants Hoffa's body nearby as a reminder. 656 00:33:50,604 --> 00:33:52,029 - To understand what happens next, 657 00:33:52,256 --> 00:33:54,756 you got to understand the mob mentality. 658 00:33:54,775 --> 00:33:56,091 You'd think, in most cases, 659 00:33:56,184 --> 00:33:57,759 you have a body, you wanna get rid of it 660 00:33:57,852 --> 00:34:00,111 as quick and as fast as possible. 661 00:34:00,264 --> 00:34:03,431 But sometimes, these guys wanna make a statement. 662 00:34:03,450 --> 00:34:05,267 Tony Pro hates Hoffa. 663 00:34:05,285 --> 00:34:07,026 He would have mounted his head on the wall of his den 664 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,694 if he could have. 665 00:34:08,714 --> 00:34:11,864 Wise guys don't let this kind of thing go. 666 00:34:11,884 --> 00:34:15,701 - Tony Pro also has an easy means of transportation 667 00:34:15,796 --> 00:34:19,631 and an ideal place to hide a body. 668 00:34:19,725 --> 00:34:23,209 - The Genovese family controls a trucking company 669 00:34:23,228 --> 00:34:26,045 called Gateway Transportation. 670 00:34:26,139 --> 00:34:28,123 According to Picardo's story, 671 00:34:28,141 --> 00:34:31,735 Hoffa's body is stuffed into a 55-gallon oil drum 672 00:34:31,962 --> 00:34:36,556 and put onto a Gateway Transportation truck. 673 00:34:36,575 --> 00:34:40,635 Off he goes, 600 miles to Jersey City. 674 00:34:40,654 --> 00:34:42,079 In Jersey City, 675 00:34:42,230 --> 00:34:45,156 when Tony Pro has a body he wants to get rid of, 676 00:34:45,309 --> 00:34:47,142 he's got a favorite spot. 677 00:34:52,482 --> 00:34:54,649 - At the time of Hoffa's disappearance, 678 00:34:54,668 --> 00:34:57,319 Genovese soldiers Phil "Brother" Moscato 679 00:34:57,337 --> 00:34:59,487 and Paul Cappola 680 00:34:59,506 --> 00:35:05,435 own a 53-acre waste dump under the Pulaski Skyway. 681 00:35:05,662 --> 00:35:07,846 - Moscato, Cappola, and the Andretta brothers 682 00:35:07,940 --> 00:35:10,014 have been involved in burying bodies at this dump 683 00:35:10,109 --> 00:35:11,833 for many years. 684 00:35:11,926 --> 00:35:13,944 The FBI has been investigating these people 685 00:35:14,171 --> 00:35:16,171 and bodies in this dump for the past three years 686 00:35:16,189 --> 00:35:18,615 before Hoffa even disappeared. 687 00:35:18,842 --> 00:35:22,101 - So when the FBI hears this from Ralph Picardo, 688 00:35:22,195 --> 00:35:24,287 they pay attention. 689 00:35:24,439 --> 00:35:26,456 - Picardo would have no way of knowing that 690 00:35:26,608 --> 00:35:28,608 this dump was already under investigation. 691 00:35:28,627 --> 00:35:32,203 But the details, they all line up. 692 00:35:32,356 --> 00:35:35,190 - The FBI asks Picardo for the location 693 00:35:35,208 --> 00:35:37,116 of the burial site within the dump. 694 00:35:37,210 --> 00:35:38,951 - Whether or not Picardo knows, 695 00:35:38,971 --> 00:35:40,879 he won't reveal the location. 696 00:35:41,031 --> 00:35:43,807 The odds against finding a body in this place are huge. 697 00:35:44,034 --> 00:35:47,126 It'd be like finding a needle in the haystack. 698 00:35:47,220 --> 00:35:50,722 - Unfortunately, without a more specific place to look, 699 00:35:50,816 --> 00:35:54,042 their search comes up empty. 700 00:35:54,060 --> 00:35:56,211 - On December 4, 1975, 701 00:35:56,304 --> 00:35:58,804 the feds make a last-ditch effort. 702 00:35:58,824 --> 00:36:01,140 They put the Andretta brothers in front of a grand jury, 703 00:36:01,234 --> 00:36:03,809 but they plead the Fifth. 704 00:36:03,904 --> 00:36:05,495 - After just five months, 705 00:36:05,722 --> 00:36:10,983 the Jersey dump theory hits a roadblock for 41 years. 706 00:36:11,003 --> 00:36:13,411 But in 2016, 707 00:36:13,563 --> 00:36:16,339 a deathbed confession resurrects it. 708 00:36:22,014 --> 00:36:24,514 - 47 years after he disappeared, 709 00:36:24,741 --> 00:36:27,242 could Jimmy Hoffa's body finally be found 710 00:36:27,260 --> 00:36:30,578 in a New Jersey dump? 711 00:36:30,672 --> 00:36:32,171 - The place is mob-owned, 712 00:36:32,191 --> 00:36:35,508 and they've got a jailhouse informant named Ralph Picardo, 713 00:36:35,602 --> 00:36:37,769 who says that he's there. 714 00:36:37,921 --> 00:36:42,866 But they search in 1975 and simply can't find a body. 715 00:36:43,017 --> 00:36:45,443 It's tough. I mean, they faced incredible odds, 716 00:36:45,537 --> 00:36:47,429 a 53-acre property 717 00:36:47,447 --> 00:36:51,357 with not even a little clue about where to look. 718 00:36:51,376 --> 00:36:54,193 - This place is a landfill and a toxic waste dump. 719 00:36:54,213 --> 00:36:57,272 It was too dangerous to dig in many places. 720 00:36:57,290 --> 00:37:01,109 Maybe that's why the mob likes to hide bodies in this dump. 721 00:37:03,222 --> 00:37:06,631 - The FBI abandons the search in 1976. 722 00:37:06,783 --> 00:37:09,392 But 40 years later, 723 00:37:09,544 --> 00:37:12,454 a shocking revelation brings the Moscato Dump 724 00:37:12,547 --> 00:37:16,215 back to the attention of Hoffa theorists. 725 00:37:16,235 --> 00:37:17,959 - Phillip Moscato Jr., 726 00:37:17,978 --> 00:37:19,903 who's the son of the Moscato Dump owner 727 00:37:20,054 --> 00:37:24,315 comes forward and claims he knows exactly where to look. 728 00:37:24,409 --> 00:37:27,727 - Moscato says his father, Phillip Sr., 729 00:37:27,746 --> 00:37:29,971 made a deathbed confession. 730 00:37:31,491 --> 00:37:33,324 - The day I met my father in the hospital, 731 00:37:33,477 --> 00:37:35,585 it was the day before he went home on hospice. 732 00:37:35,812 --> 00:37:38,480 He said, "Listen. Some things I got to tell you." 733 00:37:40,092 --> 00:37:41,816 And he proceeded to tell me 734 00:37:41,835 --> 00:37:44,502 the location where Jimmy Hoffa's buried. 735 00:37:44,654 --> 00:37:47,505 He was brought there in a drum on a truck 736 00:37:47,657 --> 00:37:48,656 and put in the ground. 737 00:37:48,675 --> 00:37:50,583 That's what I was told. 738 00:37:50,602 --> 00:37:52,435 - Could an oil drum like this 739 00:37:52,587 --> 00:37:55,605 contain the remains of Jimmy Hoffa? 740 00:37:55,832 --> 00:37:58,500 - It lines up with Ralph Picardo's story as well 741 00:37:58,593 --> 00:38:00,610 that the mob kills Hoffa in Detroit, 742 00:38:00,837 --> 00:38:03,671 puts him in a drum, and trucks him down to Jersey City 743 00:38:03,690 --> 00:38:06,357 to bury him in Moscato's dump. 744 00:38:06,451 --> 00:38:07,784 To complete the job, 745 00:38:08,011 --> 00:38:12,030 Moscato dumps 12 more oil drums on top of Hoffa 746 00:38:12,124 --> 00:38:14,182 and fills the whole thing in. 747 00:38:16,353 --> 00:38:20,630 - Moscato digs deeper into his father's story. 748 00:38:20,782 --> 00:38:22,799 - I started trying to put the story together in my head. 749 00:38:23,026 --> 00:38:25,527 Like, how could this be possible? 750 00:38:25,620 --> 00:38:28,621 And over my research of the years, putting this together, 751 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,140 it all started to make sense to me. 752 00:38:32,218 --> 00:38:33,384 - The full property of the dump 753 00:38:33,478 --> 00:38:35,312 doesn't even exist anymore. 754 00:38:35,539 --> 00:38:37,539 It's been divided and used for other things. 755 00:38:37,557 --> 00:38:40,708 But there's a patch of land right under Pulaski Skyway, 756 00:38:40,802 --> 00:38:42,968 it's kind of shaped like a baseball diamond, 757 00:38:42,988 --> 00:38:44,136 and that's where Phillip tells us 758 00:38:44,230 --> 00:38:46,047 that his father buried Jimmy Hoffa. 759 00:38:50,220 --> 00:38:51,569 - In 2020, 760 00:38:51,721 --> 00:38:54,313 a search firm conducts further investigations 761 00:38:54,333 --> 00:38:55,999 at the site. 762 00:38:56,226 --> 00:39:00,228 - Investigators had just did a ground-penetrating radar, 763 00:39:00,246 --> 00:39:02,246 I believe they call it. 764 00:39:02,341 --> 00:39:06,176 - It's a method of sending radar pulses into the earth. 765 00:39:06,327 --> 00:39:07,827 It's a great way to see what's under the surface 766 00:39:07,846 --> 00:39:09,420 before you dig. 767 00:39:09,573 --> 00:39:11,422 Lo and behold, they find some metal. 768 00:39:11,516 --> 00:39:13,183 If you take the data from that session, 769 00:39:13,410 --> 00:39:16,335 you can make a 3D image of exactly what's down there. 770 00:39:16,355 --> 00:39:19,522 And the first thing you see is a large, curved piece 771 00:39:19,674 --> 00:39:22,100 that looks just like an oil drum. 772 00:39:22,194 --> 00:39:24,844 And it's not just one, there are multiple barrels, 773 00:39:24,863 --> 00:39:26,921 and they're buried right on top of each other, 774 00:39:26,940 --> 00:39:30,516 starting about four feet down. 775 00:39:30,610 --> 00:39:34,596 - Could this be the final resting place of Jimmy Hoffa? 776 00:39:37,767 --> 00:39:41,619 Moscato hopes to have an answer soon. 777 00:39:41,713 --> 00:39:44,789 - My belief from what I was told from my dad 778 00:39:44,941 --> 00:39:47,442 is that I am the only person alive today 779 00:39:47,535 --> 00:39:49,386 that knows where the remains of Jimmy Hoffa is. 780 00:39:49,537 --> 00:39:51,871 We're getting close to revealing that, 781 00:39:51,890 --> 00:39:54,206 and I'm hoping in the near future, we do reveal that, 782 00:39:54,300 --> 00:39:57,802 and we can maybe give the Hoffa family some closure. 783 00:39:57,954 --> 00:40:00,471 The Hoffa family needs to bring home their dad, 784 00:40:00,624 --> 00:40:04,383 bring home their husband, their grandfather, 785 00:40:04,477 --> 00:40:06,236 bring him home to the people that he belongs to, 786 00:40:06,463 --> 00:40:08,463 that he should have been through all these years with. 787 00:40:15,247 --> 00:40:17,414 - If Phillip is correct, 788 00:40:17,565 --> 00:40:19,565 the Jimmy Hoffa mystery may be closer than ever 789 00:40:19,584 --> 00:40:21,251 to being solved. 790 00:40:21,402 --> 00:40:25,329 The FBI has conducted a site survey at the Moscato Dump 791 00:40:25,482 --> 00:40:28,240 and may soon begin a full-scale excavation. 792 00:40:28,334 --> 00:40:31,243 And there is a chance that it could finally put Jimmy Hoffa 793 00:40:31,337 --> 00:40:35,414 and all the many theories on his disappearance to rest. 794 00:40:35,508 --> 00:40:37,175 I'm Laurence Fishburne. 795 00:40:37,269 --> 00:40:42,163 Thank you for watching "History's Greatest Mysteries." 64528

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