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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,834 --> 00:00:12,316 - Two nights after Christmas, clear and cold 2 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,405 an unhurried and contented fullness 3 00:00:14,449 --> 00:00:18,235 had settled on a small, quiet town in Missouri 4 00:00:18,279 --> 00:00:20,194 an unobtrusive little place, 5 00:00:20,237 --> 00:00:22,718 sort of place that didn't make a fuss, 6 00:00:22,761 --> 00:00:25,373 a town called Troy. 7 00:00:25,416 --> 00:00:28,898 It was December 27th, 2011. 8 00:00:28,941 --> 00:00:31,118 There'd be a fuss tonight. 9 00:00:31,161 --> 00:00:34,904 Troy was about to make headlines. 10 00:00:34,947 --> 00:00:38,690 The dead woman on the floor was Betsy Faria. 11 00:00:38,734 --> 00:00:41,867 It was obvious that her wrists had been slashed. 12 00:00:41,911 --> 00:00:46,394 The blade of a kitchen knife was still buried in her neck. 13 00:00:46,437 --> 00:00:48,309 A few feet away in the kitchen, 14 00:00:48,352 --> 00:00:51,399 her husband Russ was on the phone with 911, 15 00:00:51,442 --> 00:00:54,315 sounding hysterical. 16 00:00:54,358 --> 00:00:56,578 Maybe too hysterical. 17 00:00:56,621 --> 00:01:01,278 - Yeah, I... I just got home from a friend's house and... 18 00:01:01,322 --> 00:01:05,195 And my wife... My wife killed herself. 19 00:01:05,239 --> 00:01:09,678 She's... she's... She's on the floor. 20 00:01:09,721 --> 00:01:13,856 - A terrible story too often told. 21 00:01:13,899 --> 00:01:17,773 Dead wife, guilty husband feigning grief. 22 00:01:17,816 --> 00:01:20,776 Open and shut, a story like that. 23 00:01:20,819 --> 00:01:24,258 Easy to judge the book by its cover. 24 00:01:24,301 --> 00:01:26,564 You'd think what happened on Sumac Drive 25 00:01:26,608 --> 00:01:29,306 was at the hands of Russ Faria, 26 00:01:29,350 --> 00:01:31,743 and you'd be wrong. 27 00:01:31,787 --> 00:01:34,094 Dead wrong. 28 00:01:34,137 --> 00:01:37,662 Enter Pam Hupp. 29 00:01:37,706 --> 00:01:39,249 - You know, when people want you to admit 30 00:01:39,273 --> 00:01:42,363 to something you didn't do? I can't do that. 31 00:01:42,406 --> 00:01:45,235 I'm not that kind of person. Mm-mm. 32 00:01:45,279 --> 00:01:48,282 They don't know who I am. 33 00:01:48,325 --> 00:01:50,197 I'm a businesswoman! 34 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,503 I do business all the time. 35 00:01:52,547 --> 00:01:54,897 Flip houses, turn a profit. 36 00:01:54,940 --> 00:01:58,074 I'm real successful. 37 00:01:58,118 --> 00:02:00,381 I'm a pillar of the community. 38 00:02:00,424 --> 00:02:02,426 - She's a pillar of the community. 39 00:02:02,470 --> 00:02:04,950 - Thanks, Ger! Great guy. 40 00:02:06,778 --> 00:02:11,131 I'm other stuff too: a loving family woman. 41 00:02:11,174 --> 00:02:13,263 My husband, Mark. 42 00:02:13,307 --> 00:02:16,658 He thinks I'm a hoot. 43 00:02:16,701 --> 00:02:19,095 - My son, Travis. 44 00:02:19,139 --> 00:02:22,142 Owns his own condo that I financed. 45 00:02:22,185 --> 00:02:24,579 Sarah, from my first marriage. 46 00:02:24,622 --> 00:02:27,451 All: Cheese! 47 00:02:27,495 --> 00:02:29,714 Don't we look great? 48 00:02:29,758 --> 00:02:31,151 Almost forgot! 49 00:02:31,194 --> 00:02:33,153 My mom, Shirley. 50 00:02:33,196 --> 00:02:34,676 R.I.P. 51 00:02:34,719 --> 00:02:37,287 Took care of her till the very end. 52 00:02:37,331 --> 00:02:40,160 Just like my best friend, Betsy. 53 00:02:40,203 --> 00:02:42,901 Bets had a rough go with cancer, 54 00:02:42,945 --> 00:02:45,643 but I got through it. 55 00:02:45,687 --> 00:02:47,602 I miss ya, Bets. 56 00:02:48,951 --> 00:02:51,562 What happened to Betsy was hard on me too. 57 00:02:51,606 --> 00:02:53,999 Probably more than anyone. 58 00:02:54,043 --> 00:02:55,914 Except maybe Betsy. 59 00:02:55,958 --> 00:02:58,656 And people still say, "Pam, she's blah, blah, blah." 60 00:02:58,700 --> 00:03:00,615 But everyone knows it was her husband. 61 00:03:00,658 --> 00:03:02,878 Did you hear that 911 call? 62 00:03:07,535 --> 00:03:09,667 - Wah-wah-wah. What a faker. 63 00:03:09,711 --> 00:03:14,542 And then I get stuck with his problems? 64 00:03:14,585 --> 00:03:18,589 I had to deal with her bratty daughters, her mom... 65 00:03:18,633 --> 00:03:20,025 Oh, my God, her mom... 66 00:03:20,069 --> 00:03:21,940 But I was happy to help. 67 00:03:21,984 --> 00:03:24,421 And here we are, 68 00:03:24,465 --> 00:03:27,294 all because I was such a good friend. 69 00:03:27,337 --> 00:03:30,775 - Ah, the friend, the confidant. 70 00:03:30,819 --> 00:03:33,038 And my, my, 71 00:03:33,082 --> 00:03:35,302 such a story she could tell. 72 00:03:38,305 --> 00:03:43,005 73 00:03:49,838 --> 00:03:52,014 - Hello. - Hey, how ya feeling? 74 00:03:52,057 --> 00:03:55,191 Want me to bring some of those suckers when I come back? 75 00:03:55,235 --> 00:03:57,367 - This time, chemo wasn't bad. 76 00:03:57,411 --> 00:04:00,283 I feel kinda good, actually. 77 00:04:00,327 --> 00:04:01,850 - Great, I'm glad. 78 00:04:01,893 --> 00:04:05,201 I was just thinking of that bad day a couple chemos ago. 79 00:04:05,245 --> 00:04:06,942 You went and played tennis after. 80 00:04:06,985 --> 00:04:09,597 - Mm. I pushed it too hard that day. 81 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,425 - Yeah, it took like an hour 82 00:04:11,468 --> 00:04:13,949 to clean all the puke off the court. 83 00:04:13,992 --> 00:04:16,081 Wouldn't want that going down at your mom's. 84 00:04:16,125 --> 00:04:17,300 - Really, Pam. 85 00:04:17,344 --> 00:04:19,520 I'm good to stay. 86 00:04:19,563 --> 00:04:21,522 My family's here and... - See? 87 00:04:21,565 --> 00:04:23,480 That's what I'm worried about. 88 00:04:23,524 --> 00:04:26,788 All those germs when your white count's low. 89 00:04:26,831 --> 00:04:29,747 Let me feed Mark and Travis, then I'll come pick ya up, kay? 90 00:04:29,791 --> 00:04:32,576 - Can I come back and get you? - Is that Russ? 91 00:04:32,620 --> 00:04:35,231 He should just stay out and play his game. I got ya. 92 00:04:35,275 --> 00:04:36,754 - If I wanna go home, 93 00:04:36,798 --> 00:04:38,800 he'll just get me after his guys' night. 94 00:04:38,843 --> 00:04:42,325 - I don't mind driving. I'll come after dinner. 95 00:04:42,369 --> 00:04:43,631 See how you're doing. 96 00:04:43,674 --> 00:04:45,807 Drink lots of water. I'll see you soon. 97 00:04:48,288 --> 00:04:49,419 - Pam? 98 00:04:53,336 --> 00:04:55,251 - Oh, have fun playing karate priest. 99 00:04:55,295 --> 00:04:58,428 - I'm a monk with celestial powers. 100 00:05:08,569 --> 00:05:11,615 - Oh, the mundane moments of every day. 101 00:05:11,659 --> 00:05:14,052 The drinks we buy, 102 00:05:14,096 --> 00:05:17,142 the shops we frequent, 103 00:05:17,186 --> 00:05:19,449 the names we're able to put to faces. 104 00:05:19,493 --> 00:05:22,322 - Oh, we're out of cherry. 105 00:05:22,365 --> 00:05:24,933 Ger? - Oh. 106 00:05:24,976 --> 00:05:27,109 Sorry, Pam. 107 00:05:27,152 --> 00:05:28,458 Here you go. 108 00:05:28,502 --> 00:05:30,460 - Thanks. - Uh-huh. 109 00:05:33,507 --> 00:05:35,509 - Oh, hey, Dave. 110 00:05:35,552 --> 00:05:37,293 Happy late Christmas. 111 00:05:37,337 --> 00:05:39,730 - Hey, Pam. You too. 112 00:05:39,774 --> 00:05:41,253 - Thanks. 113 00:05:41,297 --> 00:05:42,951 Santa treat you well? - Nah. 114 00:05:42,994 --> 00:05:45,214 But I wasn't that good neither. 115 00:05:45,257 --> 00:05:47,018 Maybe next year he'll bring me a girlfriend, right? 116 00:05:47,042 --> 00:05:48,565 - You kidding? 117 00:05:48,609 --> 00:05:52,352 Any girl just needs to get a look at you in that uniform. 118 00:05:52,395 --> 00:05:57,835 It's the right time to rock the night away 119 00:05:57,879 --> 00:06:01,012 - It's the intent behind the little things we do 120 00:06:01,056 --> 00:06:04,233 that says everything. 121 00:06:04,276 --> 00:06:06,540 - This too. 122 00:06:09,369 --> 00:06:12,676 Bye. - Bye. 123 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,678 - It's those little things 124 00:06:14,722 --> 00:06:18,552 that may turn out to prove your innocence. 125 00:06:18,595 --> 00:06:25,733 126 00:06:31,260 --> 00:06:38,180 127 00:06:44,142 --> 00:06:47,885 - There are things in Troy one takes for granted. 128 00:06:47,929 --> 00:06:50,845 The bit of history downtown, 129 00:06:50,888 --> 00:06:54,414 the winter chill, and safety, 130 00:06:54,457 --> 00:06:57,286 but certainly not murder. 131 00:07:02,247 --> 00:07:04,206 - Those chemo rooms are tiny 132 00:07:04,249 --> 00:07:07,731 and there's no place to be with all these people, 133 00:07:07,775 --> 00:07:10,691 so I'm stuck standing. - On your bad leg? 134 00:07:10,734 --> 00:07:12,954 - All 'cause her mom's friend Bobby's there 135 00:07:12,997 --> 00:07:16,348 and everyone thinks she's so great 'cause she's from Texas 136 00:07:16,392 --> 00:07:18,568 like it's France or something, 137 00:07:18,612 --> 00:07:20,744 and I'm supposed to be all impressed 138 00:07:20,788 --> 00:07:23,225 'cause that's where Bobby's from. 139 00:07:23,268 --> 00:07:26,446 Now she wants Bets to stay at her mom's tonight. 140 00:07:27,664 --> 00:07:29,187 - But you're still gonna go get her? 141 00:07:29,231 --> 00:07:31,146 - Well, yeah. 142 00:07:32,495 --> 00:07:34,802 - And you're gonna call me after you drop off Betsy? 143 00:07:34,845 --> 00:07:37,239 - Mm-hmm, that's my plan. 144 00:07:42,853 --> 00:07:44,594 She ready? - Pam. 145 00:07:44,638 --> 00:07:46,378 I didn't know you were coming back. 146 00:07:46,422 --> 00:07:48,685 - Yeah, Bobby. Bets wanted me to. 147 00:07:48,729 --> 00:07:50,513 She's gotta get to bed. 148 00:07:50,557 --> 00:07:52,080 Win-win. 149 00:07:52,123 --> 00:07:53,734 Now I can hear more about Texas. 150 00:07:53,777 --> 00:07:57,085 All your barbecue and stuff. - Huh. 151 00:07:57,128 --> 00:07:58,826 - Hey. Where's your coat? 152 00:07:58,869 --> 00:08:01,393 - I'm not sure where it is. 153 00:08:01,437 --> 00:08:04,179 - Betsy's playing her game. 154 00:08:04,222 --> 00:08:06,486 Why don't you just stay for a drink? 155 00:08:06,529 --> 00:08:08,313 - Sure. I can chill a sec. 156 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:15,538 157 00:08:15,582 --> 00:08:18,193 - Oh, let me take your coat, hmm? 158 00:08:18,236 --> 00:08:19,499 - No, I'm good. 159 00:08:19,542 --> 00:08:22,153 You play your game. 160 00:08:22,197 --> 00:08:25,853 161 00:08:27,724 --> 00:08:32,773 162 00:08:32,816 --> 00:08:35,210 - My berserker goes into adrenal rage... 163 00:08:35,253 --> 00:08:36,820 Plus three on all attacks 164 00:08:36,864 --> 00:08:38,822 and attacks the Lord of Entropy. 165 00:08:38,866 --> 00:08:42,173 - You can't attack the Lord of Entropy. 166 00:08:42,217 --> 00:08:43,218 He's a god! 167 00:08:43,261 --> 00:08:44,654 - Are you sure you wanna do that? 168 00:08:44,698 --> 00:08:45,655 No. 169 00:08:45,699 --> 00:08:48,310 - Yes, yes, I attack. 170 00:08:48,353 --> 00:08:49,616 - Okay, you heard him. 171 00:08:49,659 --> 00:08:53,576 I mean, everybody roll to attack. 172 00:08:53,620 --> 00:08:56,187 Jackass. 173 00:08:58,581 --> 00:09:00,540 - You get that. 174 00:09:00,583 --> 00:09:06,328 175 00:09:11,463 --> 00:09:13,074 176 00:09:13,117 --> 00:09:15,685 - Russ took a nice photo of us on Christmas morning. 177 00:09:15,729 --> 00:09:18,601 Figured out how to set the timer and everything. 178 00:09:22,213 --> 00:09:23,606 - We're working on it. 179 00:09:23,650 --> 00:09:26,566 - I just wish that he wouldn't smoke in the house. 180 00:09:26,609 --> 00:09:29,699 - With you in your condition? 181 00:09:29,743 --> 00:09:31,571 How's the game going? 182 00:09:33,268 --> 00:09:35,575 - You know, maybe we just go ahead and call it a night. 183 00:09:35,618 --> 00:09:36,880 - Wait. 184 00:09:36,924 --> 00:09:39,491 No, Mom, I thought you were staying with us 185 00:09:39,535 --> 00:09:40,884 at Grandma's house. 186 00:09:40,928 --> 00:09:46,977 - Well, Pam came all this way, so... 187 00:09:47,021 --> 00:09:48,500 I'll just see you tomorrow, sweetie. 188 00:09:48,544 --> 00:09:50,415 - Hmm. 189 00:09:50,459 --> 00:09:52,896 That big beanbag is something. 190 00:09:52,940 --> 00:09:55,159 - Yeah, grandma got it for me for Christmas. 191 00:09:55,203 --> 00:09:57,727 It's called a LoveSac. - Mm. Hmm. 192 00:09:59,076 --> 00:10:01,296 - Wait, something got on it. 193 00:10:01,339 --> 00:10:02,732 - Yeah. 194 00:10:02,776 --> 00:10:05,343 I saw that when I came in. 195 00:10:05,387 --> 00:10:08,303 Just asking for trouble with white. 196 00:10:09,913 --> 00:10:11,654 Let's get these on ya. 197 00:10:11,698 --> 00:10:13,830 Here. 198 00:10:14,744 --> 00:10:15,919 - Hey! 199 00:10:15,963 --> 00:10:19,314 I didn't get my hug. 200 00:10:19,357 --> 00:10:21,185 - We'll save it for tomorrow, Mama. 201 00:10:21,229 --> 00:10:23,623 - Aww. - Yep. See ya, Janet. 202 00:10:26,626 --> 00:10:33,720 203 00:10:36,244 --> 00:10:38,638 - It's hard to know when a goodbye 204 00:10:38,681 --> 00:10:42,424 will turn out to be important. 205 00:10:42,467 --> 00:10:45,035 Who would ever think this goodbye 206 00:10:45,079 --> 00:10:48,604 would turn out to be forever? 207 00:10:48,648 --> 00:10:53,435 208 00:10:53,478 --> 00:10:55,393 - Whoa. 209 00:10:55,437 --> 00:10:57,657 You maybe wanna slow down just a little? 210 00:10:57,700 --> 00:10:58,962 No rush. 211 00:10:59,006 --> 00:11:01,704 - Oh, was I speeding? 212 00:11:01,748 --> 00:11:05,142 Oops. 213 00:11:05,186 --> 00:11:08,232 What's the opposite of night vision? 214 00:11:08,276 --> 00:11:10,887 That's what I got. 215 00:11:10,931 --> 00:11:15,065 - Yeah, I know. Russ could've drove me. 216 00:11:18,373 --> 00:11:21,245 Hey, let's watch a movie at your place, huh? 217 00:11:21,289 --> 00:11:23,508 It's been a long day, Pam. 218 00:11:23,552 --> 00:11:24,509 I'm tired. 219 00:11:24,553 --> 00:11:26,337 - Hmm. 220 00:11:26,381 --> 00:11:28,688 Okay. 221 00:11:28,731 --> 00:11:33,083 Well, just a show, then. 222 00:11:33,127 --> 00:11:37,914 You can't spend enough time with the people you love. 223 00:11:37,958 --> 00:11:39,742 - Yeah, I know what you mean. 224 00:11:39,786 --> 00:11:41,701 I feel like I don't see Mariah enough 225 00:11:41,744 --> 00:11:44,486 since she started living with my mom. 226 00:11:44,529 --> 00:11:48,708 The school district there is so much better. 227 00:11:48,751 --> 00:11:53,103 228 00:11:53,147 --> 00:11:55,758 Well, 229 00:11:55,802 --> 00:11:58,761 me and the kids 230 00:11:58,805 --> 00:12:01,764 just wanted you to know that 231 00:12:01,808 --> 00:12:06,769 Russ has been so sweet. 232 00:12:06,813 --> 00:12:10,381 I know you're not his biggest fan. 233 00:12:10,425 --> 00:12:12,775 He's a mess. 234 00:12:12,819 --> 00:12:17,084 Lord knows I'm a mess. 235 00:12:17,127 --> 00:12:20,740 That is why it is so good 236 00:12:20,783 --> 00:12:23,568 that you have got your eye on us. 237 00:12:23,612 --> 00:12:25,962 238 00:12:26,006 --> 00:12:29,792 And that you'll... 239 00:12:29,836 --> 00:12:36,581 you'll help my girls when... 240 00:12:36,625 --> 00:12:40,063 When... oh, God. 241 00:12:40,107 --> 00:12:43,240 I just don't want them to have too hard of a time. 242 00:12:43,284 --> 00:12:45,416 - Here we are. 243 00:12:45,460 --> 00:12:50,857 244 00:12:50,900 --> 00:12:54,469 Thanks for the ride, Pam. 245 00:12:56,123 --> 00:12:57,777 - I promised Mark we'd call him together 246 00:12:57,820 --> 00:13:00,823 when we got home. - Oh. 247 00:13:00,867 --> 00:13:03,130 Is he okay? - Yeah. 248 00:13:03,173 --> 00:13:05,567 Let's just call him. 249 00:13:05,610 --> 00:13:08,048 - Sure. 250 00:13:08,091 --> 00:13:12,269 Great. 251 00:13:12,313 --> 00:13:15,142 Hmm. 252 00:13:15,185 --> 00:13:16,621 - Wasn't he expecting you? 253 00:13:16,665 --> 00:13:18,928 - Must be away from his phone. 254 00:13:18,972 --> 00:13:20,103 Oh! - Hey, it's Mark. 255 00:13:20,147 --> 00:13:21,254 Leave a message. - Get ready. 256 00:13:21,278 --> 00:13:23,150 Hey, Mark, it's us. 257 00:13:23,193 --> 00:13:25,848 Just got Betsy home and she's gonna get all tucked in, 258 00:13:25,892 --> 00:13:29,025 but we just wanted to say hi. 259 00:13:29,069 --> 00:13:32,637 - Happy Christmas, Mark. Hope you're good. 260 00:13:32,681 --> 00:13:34,161 Thanks for loaning me Pam. 261 00:13:34,204 --> 00:13:36,032 - Those little things, 262 00:13:36,076 --> 00:13:38,818 like a timestamped phone call, for instance... 263 00:13:38,861 --> 00:13:41,951 - Perfect. - Can make an alibi. 264 00:13:41,995 --> 00:13:45,041 The question is, will it stand? 265 00:13:49,089 --> 00:13:52,657 - Hello? I'm worried about ya. 266 00:13:52,701 --> 00:13:55,443 Bets, honestly, I don't know why you're doing this to me. 267 00:13:55,486 --> 00:13:57,401 You mad or something? 268 00:14:04,365 --> 00:14:06,846 Call me. You better be okay. 269 00:14:24,864 --> 00:14:28,911 - A phone can be both sword and shield. 270 00:14:28,955 --> 00:14:32,915 Each call a strike or a defense. 271 00:14:32,959 --> 00:14:39,879 272 00:14:42,969 --> 00:14:45,841 - Janet, I've been trying Betsy for like a half hour. 273 00:14:45,885 --> 00:14:48,800 No answer. Maybe her phone's off? 274 00:14:48,844 --> 00:14:50,933 That's not like her, right? 275 00:14:50,977 --> 00:14:53,066 - No, it isn't. 276 00:14:53,109 --> 00:14:54,806 - Maybe she's mad at me or something? 277 00:14:54,850 --> 00:14:57,157 - Oh, what would she be mad at you for? 278 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:58,636 - I don't know. 279 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,901 She wanted to watch a movie until Russ came home, 280 00:15:01,944 --> 00:15:04,077 but I said, "You just need to rest." 281 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,862 So she said she's gonna watch TV till he got home 282 00:15:06,906 --> 00:15:10,039 and he was gonna be home in, you know, like, an hour or so, 283 00:15:10,083 --> 00:15:11,345 so I said "Okay." 284 00:15:11,388 --> 00:15:13,564 But I would've stayed. - Oh, God. 285 00:15:13,608 --> 00:15:15,958 I just hope she's not in a bad place in her head again. 286 00:15:16,002 --> 00:15:17,873 - Yeah, I shouldn't have worried ya. 287 00:15:17,917 --> 00:15:20,963 Just wanted to see if maybe you knew something. 288 00:15:21,007 --> 00:15:22,965 I'll keep checking, 289 00:15:25,968 --> 00:15:32,932 290 00:15:36,109 --> 00:15:39,634 - Leaving a friend's house, do we notice the time? 291 00:15:39,677 --> 00:15:42,245 Should we? 292 00:15:45,248 --> 00:15:52,299 293 00:15:52,342 --> 00:15:55,476 It's a funny thing, fate. 294 00:15:55,519 --> 00:15:57,913 All just a series of decisions. 295 00:15:57,957 --> 00:16:01,003 Right or left, stay or go. 296 00:16:01,047 --> 00:16:02,894 - Welcome to Arby's. What can I get for you tonight? 297 00:16:02,918 --> 00:16:06,182 Um... 298 00:16:06,226 --> 00:16:09,490 I'll have the, uh, chicken bacon Swiss. 299 00:16:09,533 --> 00:16:12,058 Uh, sorry, no. 300 00:16:12,101 --> 00:16:14,886 I'll have the beef and cheddar melt. 301 00:16:14,930 --> 00:16:16,410 - Sometimes one small thing 302 00:16:16,453 --> 00:16:18,890 could make all the difference in the world. 303 00:16:18,934 --> 00:16:21,241 Sometimes it's stopping at a light 304 00:16:21,284 --> 00:16:24,070 before a truck barrels through the intersection. 305 00:16:24,113 --> 00:16:27,247 - Actually, two beef and cheddars. 306 00:16:27,290 --> 00:16:30,076 - Other times, it's how to satisfy 307 00:16:30,119 --> 00:16:32,600 a case of the munchies. 308 00:16:35,211 --> 00:16:37,518 - Oh, thank you. 309 00:16:37,561 --> 00:16:44,525 310 00:16:47,571 --> 00:16:54,665 311 00:17:06,677 --> 00:17:10,812 Hey, girl. 312 00:17:10,855 --> 00:17:13,119 Why you out here, huh? 313 00:17:13,162 --> 00:17:15,295 Come on. 314 00:17:15,338 --> 00:17:20,300 315 00:17:21,953 --> 00:17:24,391 - Lincoln County 911. What's your emergency? 316 00:17:24,434 --> 00:17:26,436 Hello? 317 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,880 - Ma'am, I'm gonna need you to take a couple of deep breaths. 318 00:17:28,917 --> 00:17:30,614 What's your name? 319 00:17:30,658 --> 00:17:35,097 - My name... - My name is Russell Faria. 320 00:17:35,141 --> 00:17:38,187 - Okay, Russell, what is the address where you are? 321 00:17:38,231 --> 00:17:43,888 - 1... 1... 130 Sumac. 322 00:17:47,196 --> 00:17:51,461 I... I just got home from a friend's house, and... 323 00:17:51,505 --> 00:17:53,637 And my wife... 324 00:17:53,681 --> 00:17:55,639 My wife killed herself. 325 00:17:55,683 --> 00:17:59,774 She's... she's... She's on the floor. 326 00:17:59,817 --> 00:18:01,036 - O... okay, Russell, 327 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,560 I need you to calm down, honey, okay? 328 00:18:03,604 --> 00:18:05,519 What did she do? Do you know? 329 00:18:05,562 --> 00:18:08,348 - She's got a knife in her neck 330 00:18:08,391 --> 00:18:10,045 and she sliced her arms. 331 00:18:10,089 --> 00:18:12,743 - Okay. Is she breathing at all? 332 00:18:12,787 --> 00:18:17,183 She's dead. 333 00:18:17,226 --> 00:18:19,663 - The worst call he ever had to make, 334 00:18:19,707 --> 00:18:21,274 and Russ had no idea 335 00:18:21,317 --> 00:18:24,103 how much it would be picked apart. 336 00:18:28,890 --> 00:18:30,500 - Russell, they're on their way, hon. 337 00:18:30,544 --> 00:18:32,763 Okay, is there anybody else in the house? 338 00:18:32,807 --> 00:18:34,200 No. 339 00:18:34,243 --> 00:18:36,811 No, I'm all alone. 340 00:18:39,292 --> 00:18:40,747 - Russell, I've got a couple of officers 341 00:18:40,771 --> 00:18:42,208 out there right now. 342 00:18:42,251 --> 00:18:44,055 Can you do me a favor and open your front door? 343 00:18:50,129 --> 00:18:53,132 - Sheriff's department. 344 00:18:55,438 --> 00:18:57,484 - Sir, is there anyone else in the house? 345 00:18:57,527 --> 00:18:59,486 - No. 346 00:18:59,529 --> 00:19:01,009 - You said your wife killed herself? 347 00:19:01,052 --> 00:19:02,184 - Yes. 348 00:19:02,228 --> 00:19:04,882 Oh, my God, Betsy. 349 00:19:09,452 --> 00:19:10,888 - Could you please take him outside? 350 00:19:17,634 --> 00:19:18,679 351 00:19:18,722 --> 00:19:21,334 - Got a female down at 130 Sumac. 352 00:19:21,377 --> 00:19:23,640 Looks to be a definite J4. 353 00:19:23,684 --> 00:19:25,599 - Copy that. 354 00:19:32,606 --> 00:19:36,218 - Update information at crime scene, 130 Sumac. 355 00:19:40,614 --> 00:19:42,224 - I'm just gonna get this off of you. 356 00:19:42,268 --> 00:19:43,573 - No witnesses as of yet. 357 00:19:43,617 --> 00:19:45,029 County's sweeping the neighborhood now 358 00:19:45,053 --> 00:19:47,055 to see if anybody saw or heard anything. 359 00:19:52,278 --> 00:19:56,934 360 00:19:56,978 --> 00:19:59,110 - It was 34 degrees in Troy 361 00:19:59,154 --> 00:20:03,114 when Detective Michael Merkel took Russ' coat for evidence. 362 00:20:06,248 --> 00:20:07,989 Russ' beloved dog, Cicely, 363 00:20:08,032 --> 00:20:10,905 had been mysteriously left outside the house. 364 00:20:10,948 --> 00:20:13,603 While inside, Captain Mike Lang 365 00:20:13,647 --> 00:20:17,259 and lead detective Ryan McCarrick got to work. 366 00:20:19,174 --> 00:20:21,002 - See the sock hanging off? 367 00:20:21,045 --> 00:20:22,351 - Signs of a struggle. 368 00:20:22,395 --> 00:20:24,135 - And the knife in her neck? 369 00:20:24,179 --> 00:20:25,920 Doesn't spell suicide. 370 00:20:25,963 --> 00:20:28,923 You hear that 911 call? - Totally over the top. 371 00:20:28,966 --> 00:20:30,794 - We need to know everything this guy touched 372 00:20:30,838 --> 00:20:32,622 in the last 24 hours. 373 00:20:32,666 --> 00:20:34,755 The scene will never be as fresh as it is right now. 374 00:20:34,798 --> 00:20:36,646 - Here's one for ya. I didn't see a drop of blood 375 00:20:36,670 --> 00:20:37,801 anywhere on him. 376 00:20:37,845 --> 00:20:39,063 Must've washed it off. 377 00:20:39,107 --> 00:20:40,476 - Check every inch of the bathrooms. 378 00:20:40,500 --> 00:20:43,285 Showers, laundry. Find where he washed it off. 379 00:20:43,329 --> 00:20:50,205 380 00:20:50,249 --> 00:20:52,816 Hey, this pillow's in a weird spot. 381 00:20:58,387 --> 00:20:59,649 - Where am I going? 382 00:20:59,693 --> 00:21:00,844 - We just need you to come down the station, 383 00:21:00,868 --> 00:21:03,262 answer some questions about your wife. 384 00:21:03,305 --> 00:21:05,176 Due diligence. 385 00:21:05,220 --> 00:21:12,314 386 00:21:23,194 --> 00:21:24,433 - How you liking your first murder? 387 00:21:24,457 --> 00:21:26,043 - Honestly, thought it'd be harder to solve. 388 00:21:26,067 --> 00:21:28,504 - We got statistics for a reason, brother. 389 00:21:28,548 --> 00:21:31,115 Learned that in my 200 hours of training. 390 00:21:31,159 --> 00:21:32,508 This? 391 00:21:32,552 --> 00:21:35,468 Textbook spousal homicide. 392 00:21:35,511 --> 00:21:38,035 - The drive to Betsy's was fine. 393 00:21:38,079 --> 00:21:42,257 Oh, my God, Mark, Janet got Mariah this ginormous beanbag. 394 00:21:42,301 --> 00:21:43,867 The size of a house. 395 00:21:43,911 --> 00:21:45,782 Called a "love suck" or something? 396 00:21:45,826 --> 00:21:49,177 Those things cost, like, a $1,000. 397 00:21:49,220 --> 00:21:52,398 If I had beanbag money like that 398 00:21:52,441 --> 00:21:56,576 when I was her age, I'd have gone to college. 399 00:21:58,273 --> 00:22:01,363 Ugh! 400 00:22:01,407 --> 00:22:02,364 Burned it. 401 00:22:05,411 --> 00:22:12,548 402 00:22:20,643 --> 00:22:22,732 - So, Russ, tell me about you and Betsy. 403 00:22:22,776 --> 00:22:25,953 And you've been married how long? 404 00:22:25,996 --> 00:22:28,390 - 12 years. 405 00:22:28,434 --> 00:22:31,306 - 12 years. That's a long time. 406 00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:33,395 You know, I know marriages can get messy. 407 00:22:33,439 --> 00:22:35,919 You two had any problems? 408 00:22:35,963 --> 00:22:37,399 - We had our bumps. 409 00:22:37,443 --> 00:22:39,401 We were separated. 410 00:22:39,445 --> 00:22:41,621 Didn't get along for a bit but then we... 411 00:22:41,664 --> 00:22:45,973 We found this new church and we worked it out. 412 00:22:46,016 --> 00:22:48,845 - Yeah? What's your pastor's name? 413 00:22:48,889 --> 00:22:49,890 - Mike Shriner. 414 00:22:49,933 --> 00:22:52,371 - You go to Morningstar? 415 00:22:52,414 --> 00:22:53,807 - You know Mike? 416 00:22:53,850 --> 00:22:57,114 - I know Pastor Mike. Great guy. 417 00:22:57,158 --> 00:22:58,681 - He's a good friend. 418 00:22:58,725 --> 00:23:00,006 - And everything with the family's 419 00:23:00,030 --> 00:23:01,380 been good since then? 420 00:23:01,423 --> 00:23:06,385 - Well, uh, normal stuff. 421 00:23:06,428 --> 00:23:07,864 We found out our daughter Lily 422 00:23:07,908 --> 00:23:10,301 stole some money from Betsy's mom. 423 00:23:10,345 --> 00:23:12,129 There's always something. 424 00:23:12,173 --> 00:23:14,828 - Right. Always something. 425 00:23:14,871 --> 00:23:16,960 And she was sick? 426 00:23:17,004 --> 00:23:18,527 Depressed? 427 00:23:18,571 --> 00:23:20,137 Enough to kill herself? 428 00:23:20,181 --> 00:23:22,792 - She had cancer. 429 00:23:22,836 --> 00:23:25,142 We thought she got rid of it. 430 00:23:25,186 --> 00:23:29,103 She had a mastectomy, but it spread to her liver. 431 00:23:29,146 --> 00:23:30,626 Now it's in her liver 432 00:23:30,670 --> 00:23:34,717 even though she had her whole boob removed. 433 00:23:34,761 --> 00:23:37,198 Am I allowed to go to the bathroom? 434 00:23:37,241 --> 00:23:39,330 - Look at him and decide: 435 00:23:39,374 --> 00:23:42,072 do you see a killer? 436 00:23:42,116 --> 00:23:46,468 DA Leah Askey was about to decide for herself. 437 00:23:46,512 --> 00:23:49,079 Hey. 438 00:23:49,123 --> 00:23:50,429 Just wait till you hear this. 439 00:23:50,472 --> 00:23:51,841 - I thought I told you not to call me this late. 440 00:23:51,865 --> 00:23:53,016 What if I was home with Chris? 441 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,216 - Yeah, but there's been a murder. 442 00:23:55,259 --> 00:23:57,827 A homicide, like, a big one. 443 00:23:57,871 --> 00:23:59,263 - Okay. And? 444 00:23:59,307 --> 00:24:01,004 - Some lady on Sumac got stabbed, 445 00:24:01,048 --> 00:24:03,529 I don't know, 20, 446 00:24:03,572 --> 00:24:05,487 maybe 60 times. 447 00:24:05,531 --> 00:24:07,054 I processed the crime scene myself 448 00:24:07,097 --> 00:24:10,884 and, uh, we have the husband here now. 449 00:24:10,927 --> 00:24:13,060 - I'll be there first thing in the morning. 450 00:24:13,103 --> 00:24:16,280 You Miranded him, right? 451 00:24:16,324 --> 00:24:17,760 - Oh, yeah. 452 00:24:17,804 --> 00:24:19,022 Yeah. 453 00:24:19,066 --> 00:24:20,565 You know, hold on one second for me, okay? 454 00:24:20,589 --> 00:24:21,677 Just hold on one second. 455 00:24:23,505 --> 00:24:25,202 Sorry. 456 00:24:25,246 --> 00:24:28,510 - Russ, how 'bout we make this easier on both of us, 457 00:24:28,554 --> 00:24:30,381 'cause my patience is... 458 00:24:30,425 --> 00:24:35,909 459 00:24:35,952 --> 00:24:41,218 Sit tight. 460 00:24:41,262 --> 00:24:44,221 - Oh, my God. Why would she do this to me? 461 00:24:44,265 --> 00:24:47,137 462 00:24:47,181 --> 00:24:49,139 - Hey. Sorry about that. 463 00:24:49,183 --> 00:24:52,534 You know, so much to do and not enough bodies. 464 00:24:52,578 --> 00:24:55,319 Um, look, somehow... 465 00:24:55,363 --> 00:24:58,540 And bear with me, it's... It's been a long day, but... 466 00:24:58,584 --> 00:25:00,605 You know, when we bring someone in here to talk like this, 467 00:25:00,629 --> 00:25:03,284 we gotta run through their rights with them 468 00:25:03,327 --> 00:25:04,851 and somehow I forgot, okay? 469 00:25:04,894 --> 00:25:07,462 So I'm just gonna run over this with you real quick. 470 00:25:07,506 --> 00:25:09,899 Right, you have the right to remain silent. 471 00:25:09,943 --> 00:25:11,834 Anything you say can and will be used against you 472 00:25:11,858 --> 00:25:14,121 in a court of law... - Am I being arrested? 473 00:25:14,164 --> 00:25:15,924 - We're just trying to find out what happened 474 00:25:15,949 --> 00:25:17,646 and you've given us great information. 475 00:25:17,690 --> 00:25:20,997 - But do I need a lawyer? 476 00:25:21,041 --> 00:25:23,522 - Only if you did something wrong. 477 00:25:25,436 --> 00:25:27,569 Okay, then. 478 00:25:27,613 --> 00:25:31,530 - Do you think I could get another blanket? 479 00:25:34,576 --> 00:25:41,627 480 00:25:47,502 --> 00:25:50,810 481 00:25:50,853 --> 00:25:52,638 - Hello? 482 00:25:52,681 --> 00:25:54,465 483 00:25:54,509 --> 00:25:56,642 Oh, my God, what happened? 484 00:25:56,685 --> 00:25:58,687 485 00:25:58,731 --> 00:26:01,647 Sure, officer, thanks for the heads-up. 486 00:26:01,690 --> 00:26:03,605 487 00:26:03,649 --> 00:26:07,957 Well, my husband is working, but I'll be here. 488 00:26:08,001 --> 00:26:10,003 Thanks. 489 00:26:10,046 --> 00:26:16,052 490 00:26:22,668 --> 00:26:28,761 491 00:26:28,804 --> 00:26:30,893 - Oh. 492 00:26:30,937 --> 00:26:37,857 493 00:26:40,163 --> 00:26:47,127 494 00:26:48,694 --> 00:26:55,614 495 00:26:57,833 --> 00:27:00,314 - Hi. Come in. 496 00:27:00,357 --> 00:27:02,446 I've just been so upset. 497 00:27:02,490 --> 00:27:03,534 - Sorry. 498 00:27:03,578 --> 00:27:05,798 Did we catch you at a bad time? 499 00:27:05,841 --> 00:27:07,538 Do you need a second to change? 500 00:27:07,582 --> 00:27:08,801 - No, I'm good. 501 00:27:08,844 --> 00:27:10,716 And now's perfect. 502 00:27:13,849 --> 00:27:15,634 Can I get you anything? 503 00:27:15,677 --> 00:27:18,506 Coffee? - No, thanks, we're okay. 504 00:27:18,549 --> 00:27:19,989 Thanks for making the time, Ms. Hupp. 505 00:27:20,029 --> 00:27:21,161 - Of course. 506 00:27:21,204 --> 00:27:23,337 I just can't believe it. 507 00:27:23,380 --> 00:27:26,732 You can, um, sit anywhere. 508 00:27:26,775 --> 00:27:29,212 So what happened to Betsy? 509 00:27:29,256 --> 00:27:31,519 Some kind of accident or something? 510 00:27:31,562 --> 00:27:35,131 - No, she's not accidentally dead. 511 00:27:35,175 --> 00:27:37,786 She's not naturally dead. 512 00:27:37,830 --> 00:27:38,831 - What's that mean? 513 00:27:38,874 --> 00:27:40,025 - It's an active investigation 514 00:27:40,049 --> 00:27:41,181 so we can't say much, 515 00:27:41,224 --> 00:27:43,836 but we're trying to figure that out. 516 00:27:43,879 --> 00:27:45,185 - Oh. 517 00:27:45,228 --> 00:27:47,100 - We both know the suicide thing is crazy. 518 00:27:47,143 --> 00:27:50,581 They've found 52 stab wounds on her so far. 519 00:27:50,625 --> 00:27:52,409 - No. 520 00:27:52,453 --> 00:27:53,280 No. 521 00:27:53,323 --> 00:27:54,455 - Yeah. - No! 522 00:27:54,498 --> 00:27:56,196 - They haven't been able to stop counting. 523 00:27:56,239 --> 00:27:58,039 You're not gonna convince us it was a suicide. 524 00:27:58,067 --> 00:28:01,505 Betsy! No. 525 00:28:01,549 --> 00:28:04,030 The truth will come out. 526 00:28:04,073 --> 00:28:05,074 The truth? 527 00:28:05,118 --> 00:28:06,554 - Yeah, and this huge weight 528 00:28:06,597 --> 00:28:08,643 will be lifted off your shoulders. 529 00:28:08,687 --> 00:28:10,645 - What? 530 00:28:10,689 --> 00:28:14,301 You mean... 531 00:28:14,344 --> 00:28:15,737 I didn't do this. 532 00:28:15,781 --> 00:28:17,783 All right. It's okay, bud. 533 00:28:17,826 --> 00:28:21,395 Look, let's go over your story so far. 534 00:28:21,438 --> 00:28:22,677 You said you didn't take Betsy home, 535 00:28:22,701 --> 00:28:24,528 that someone dropped her off, right? 536 00:28:24,572 --> 00:28:26,400 Who was that? - Her friend Pam. 537 00:28:26,443 --> 00:28:28,576 She's been helping us out with Betsy. 538 00:28:28,619 --> 00:28:30,447 - Okay. You mind spelling that for me? 539 00:28:30,491 --> 00:28:32,493 - H-U... 540 00:28:32,536 --> 00:28:34,495 - P-P. 541 00:28:34,538 --> 00:28:36,932 Um, it's a homeless shelter, 542 00:28:36,976 --> 00:28:39,500 battered women in a church. - Oh, that's so nice. 543 00:28:39,543 --> 00:28:41,023 - So that's my Tuesday nights 544 00:28:41,067 --> 00:28:44,374 and Bets always likes to, um, help those women with me, 545 00:28:44,418 --> 00:28:45,636 bring them dinner, you know. 546 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,465 I know, honey. 547 00:28:48,509 --> 00:28:49,728 The husbands aren't cooking, 548 00:28:49,771 --> 00:28:51,512 being they're battered and everything. 549 00:28:51,555 --> 00:28:53,427 - Right. - So from there, 550 00:28:53,470 --> 00:28:55,168 I go straight to my mom's. 551 00:28:55,211 --> 00:28:57,431 She's going through Alzheimer's. 552 00:28:57,474 --> 00:28:58,625 She doesn't know what she's saying 553 00:28:58,649 --> 00:29:00,173 or where she is half the time. 554 00:29:00,216 --> 00:29:01,565 - That must be hard. 555 00:29:01,609 --> 00:29:04,264 - Oh, it is. 556 00:29:04,307 --> 00:29:05,787 And on top of all of that, 557 00:29:05,831 --> 00:29:07,591 I'm driving to Betsy to all her appointments. 558 00:29:07,615 --> 00:29:10,183 She's got chemo, whatnot, all her scans, 559 00:29:10,226 --> 00:29:12,576 but her family's real appreciative. 560 00:29:12,620 --> 00:29:15,536 Her friends were worried about her. 561 00:29:15,579 --> 00:29:17,644 - It would help if you could tell us more about last night. 562 00:29:17,668 --> 00:29:20,671 You said you got back to Betsy's at 6:30 p.m.? 563 00:29:20,715 --> 00:29:21,716 - Yes. 564 00:29:24,763 --> 00:29:26,808 565 00:29:26,852 --> 00:29:28,636 Here we are. 566 00:29:28,679 --> 00:29:32,640 We left my husband a voicemail when we got there. 567 00:29:32,683 --> 00:29:37,427 So he should have that on his phone. 568 00:29:37,471 --> 00:29:39,125 You could ask him. 569 00:29:39,168 --> 00:29:40,276 - You called from inside the house? 570 00:29:40,300 --> 00:29:41,910 - No, no, from the car. 571 00:29:41,954 --> 00:29:44,870 - Right. And then you just dropped her outside and left? 572 00:29:44,913 --> 00:29:46,262 - Correct. 573 00:29:48,525 --> 00:29:50,136 Thanks for the ride, Pam. 574 00:29:50,179 --> 00:29:52,181 - She was tired from the chemo. 575 00:29:52,225 --> 00:29:54,357 She puked her guts out earlier. 576 00:29:54,401 --> 00:29:56,795 Sweet dreams. 577 00:29:57,578 --> 00:29:59,101 I always bring suckers in my bag 578 00:29:59,145 --> 00:30:01,974 to help her with the nausea. 579 00:30:02,017 --> 00:30:04,324 580 00:30:04,367 --> 00:30:06,128 - But it must have been a little later than 6:30. 581 00:30:06,152 --> 00:30:08,023 The drive is what, a half hour? 582 00:30:10,896 --> 00:30:14,682 Um... 583 00:30:14,725 --> 00:30:15,944 I'm so sorry. 584 00:30:17,728 --> 00:30:19,818 My brain gets kind of funny sometimes. 585 00:30:19,861 --> 00:30:20,949 I get mixed up. 586 00:30:20,993 --> 00:30:22,361 - It's all right. Sorry to hear that. 587 00:30:22,385 --> 00:30:24,126 - I had an accident at work. 588 00:30:24,170 --> 00:30:25,693 You know, we were moving the office 589 00:30:25,736 --> 00:30:27,303 and there were boxes laying around 590 00:30:27,347 --> 00:30:29,871 and I tripped and I fell into a filing cabinet. 591 00:30:29,915 --> 00:30:31,438 Blah, blah, blah. 592 00:30:31,481 --> 00:30:34,006 You know, got knocked out, had to have back surgery. 593 00:30:34,049 --> 00:30:36,443 - Wow. How's your head? 594 00:30:36,486 --> 00:30:38,532 Your memory, I mean. 595 00:30:38,575 --> 00:30:39,620 - Great. 596 00:30:39,663 --> 00:30:40,882 I have to remember everything 597 00:30:40,926 --> 00:30:44,103 for an entire house, basically, so... 598 00:30:44,146 --> 00:30:46,453 - Mm. - Hmm. 599 00:30:46,496 --> 00:30:48,194 So we were in the driveway, 600 00:30:48,237 --> 00:30:49,717 chit-chatted for a few... 601 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,198 - Would you say it was less than ten minutes? 602 00:30:52,241 --> 00:30:54,069 - Gosh, I don't... I don't know. 603 00:30:54,113 --> 00:30:57,029 I don't know. I'm not sure. 604 00:30:57,072 --> 00:30:58,334 I don't remember. 605 00:30:58,378 --> 00:31:00,206 - Between 10 and 20? 606 00:31:00,249 --> 00:31:02,425 - Um, could've been, yeah. 607 00:31:05,602 --> 00:31:07,691 Wasn't paying attention though. 608 00:31:07,735 --> 00:31:09,998 I was just trying to get out of there 609 00:31:10,042 --> 00:31:12,044 'cause with Betsy, you know... 610 00:31:13,219 --> 00:31:17,136 611 00:31:17,179 --> 00:31:18,267 Here we are. 612 00:31:18,311 --> 00:31:20,617 - Oh, thanks for the ride, Pam. 613 00:31:20,661 --> 00:31:25,535 - Girl, anything for my best friend in the entire world. 614 00:31:25,579 --> 00:31:27,233 - I wish I could just stay with you. 615 00:31:27,276 --> 00:31:28,364 - Girls' night! 616 00:31:28,408 --> 00:31:30,018 - Girls' night forever! 617 00:31:36,633 --> 00:31:41,551 - She said she didn't have clothes or anything with her. 618 00:31:41,595 --> 00:31:45,338 She was at her mom's, I guess, all weekend. 619 00:31:45,381 --> 00:31:46,445 - How come she was staying at her mom's 620 00:31:46,469 --> 00:31:48,080 and not at Sumac Drive? 621 00:31:48,123 --> 00:31:50,038 - That's Russ' house. 622 00:31:50,082 --> 00:31:52,693 He wouldn't let her put her name on the title. 623 00:31:52,736 --> 00:31:54,956 - Okay, but do you know why she'd stay at her mom's? 624 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,264 - A lot of it was she didn't like to drive, 625 00:31:58,307 --> 00:32:02,268 and a lot of it was, um, 626 00:32:02,311 --> 00:32:03,791 she didn't wanna go home. 627 00:32:03,834 --> 00:32:06,141 - Pam and Betsy hang out sometimes. 628 00:32:06,185 --> 00:32:08,927 She likes talking to Pam. 629 00:32:08,970 --> 00:32:11,625 Pam is a good person. 630 00:32:11,668 --> 00:32:13,322 - So were they currently separated 631 00:32:13,366 --> 00:32:15,020 and having issues or... 632 00:32:15,063 --> 00:32:16,282 - Not right now. 633 00:32:16,325 --> 00:32:18,675 I mean, but that would change a lot. 634 00:32:18,719 --> 00:32:21,635 They were separated, gosh, six or seven times 635 00:32:21,678 --> 00:32:24,290 off and on through the years. 636 00:32:24,333 --> 00:32:26,118 He does a lot of pot. 637 00:32:26,161 --> 00:32:27,336 And he smokes in the house, 638 00:32:27,380 --> 00:32:29,904 even with her cancer and all. 639 00:32:29,948 --> 00:32:30,905 Mm-hmm. 640 00:32:30,949 --> 00:32:33,734 And his temper. 641 00:32:33,777 --> 00:32:36,693 That's how come Mariah moved in with Betsy's mom. 642 00:32:38,695 --> 00:32:40,697 - Was he ever violent with Betsy? 643 00:32:40,741 --> 00:32:42,656 - I was at their place a lot. 644 00:32:42,699 --> 00:32:45,311 And, um, he's not... 645 00:32:45,354 --> 00:32:48,836 He's not the most, um... 646 00:32:48,879 --> 00:32:55,016 He was kinda not nice verbally to her. 647 00:32:55,060 --> 00:32:58,063 Mm. 648 00:32:58,106 --> 00:33:00,195 You know the type. 649 00:33:00,239 --> 00:33:02,719 Real aggressive. 650 00:33:02,763 --> 00:33:05,026 He's a pusher. He's a pusher. 651 00:33:05,070 --> 00:33:08,247 And I just don't care for his type. 652 00:33:08,290 --> 00:33:10,181 - Do you remember if Russ' car was in the driveway 653 00:33:10,205 --> 00:33:12,599 when you arrived? - Uh, yeah. 654 00:33:12,642 --> 00:33:14,644 Here we are. 655 00:33:14,688 --> 00:33:18,083 - Thanks for the ride, Pam. 656 00:33:18,126 --> 00:33:20,041 Oh, good, Russ is home. 657 00:33:20,085 --> 00:33:22,348 - Looks like it. 658 00:33:22,391 --> 00:33:23,871 - And did you go inside at all? 659 00:33:23,914 --> 00:33:28,049 - For a bit. - She said she didn't go in. 660 00:33:28,093 --> 00:33:29,572 - Betsy asked me to. 661 00:33:29,616 --> 00:33:32,532 Um, and, um, she wanted to watch TV, 662 00:33:32,575 --> 00:33:34,621 but, um, I was just trying to go. 663 00:33:34,664 --> 00:33:36,492 - Were the lights on inside? 664 00:33:36,536 --> 00:33:38,016 - No. 665 00:33:38,059 --> 00:33:40,366 - The house was dark even though Russ' car was there? 666 00:33:40,409 --> 00:33:44,239 - Um, Russ' car was there 667 00:33:44,283 --> 00:33:47,590 and the lights were off, 668 00:33:47,634 --> 00:33:51,029 which we thought was kind of weird. 669 00:33:51,072 --> 00:33:53,205 But then she goes... Uh, she goes, 670 00:33:53,248 --> 00:33:54,641 "Oh, well, Russ is home. 671 00:33:54,684 --> 00:33:56,773 And he left the door unlocked for me." 672 00:33:56,817 --> 00:34:00,255 And I said, "Well, I better walk you to the door. 673 00:34:00,299 --> 00:34:02,431 674 00:34:02,475 --> 00:34:04,433 She had a bag, blah, blah, blah, 675 00:34:04,477 --> 00:34:05,913 stuff like that. 676 00:34:05,956 --> 00:34:08,176 Uh, so I walked to the door and in for just a bit, 677 00:34:08,220 --> 00:34:10,352 till she could get a light on. - And could you see... 678 00:34:10,396 --> 00:34:14,400 - And then we had to put her dog out in the yard 679 00:34:14,443 --> 00:34:16,924 'cause he was so annoying. 680 00:34:16,967 --> 00:34:18,186 Aggressive. 681 00:34:18,230 --> 00:34:21,059 I love dogs. 682 00:34:21,102 --> 00:34:23,061 Big dog fan. 683 00:34:23,104 --> 00:34:25,759 But I just hate that type. 684 00:34:25,802 --> 00:34:27,935 - And then you left? - Yes. 685 00:34:27,978 --> 00:34:29,458 And then I called Betsy to make sure 686 00:34:29,502 --> 00:34:31,417 she got to bed okay. 687 00:34:31,460 --> 00:34:33,419 - Could we see your phone? 688 00:34:33,462 --> 00:34:34,811 689 00:34:34,855 --> 00:34:36,639 - Mm-hmm. 690 00:34:36,683 --> 00:34:39,077 691 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,600 Does Betsy's family know? 692 00:34:40,643 --> 00:34:42,341 - Yes, they've been informed. 693 00:34:42,384 --> 00:34:44,386 - Mm. 694 00:34:46,432 --> 00:34:48,303 - Yeah, see? 695 00:34:48,347 --> 00:34:49,478 Called her when I got home. 696 00:34:49,522 --> 00:34:51,393 - You were home when you called her? 697 00:34:51,437 --> 00:34:52,873 - Yep. 698 00:34:52,916 --> 00:34:54,657 Betsy knew I don't see in the dark 699 00:34:54,701 --> 00:34:57,399 and she wanted me to check in. 700 00:34:57,443 --> 00:35:01,142 And then I ate something, 701 00:35:01,186 --> 00:35:03,623 a piece of pie, whatever, 702 00:35:03,666 --> 00:35:06,060 and then I went and got a shower 703 00:35:06,104 --> 00:35:10,325 and then I called her mom. 704 00:35:10,369 --> 00:35:15,852 705 00:35:15,896 --> 00:35:18,812 You know what you should look for is... 706 00:35:18,855 --> 00:35:21,293 Is there was this letter 707 00:35:21,336 --> 00:35:25,253 that Bets was gonna send to me 708 00:35:25,297 --> 00:35:29,649 about Russ putting a pillow over her face. 709 00:35:29,692 --> 00:35:31,999 - A pillow? - Yeah. 710 00:35:32,042 --> 00:35:34,001 Russ started playing this game 711 00:35:34,044 --> 00:35:37,091 of putting a pillow over her face, um, 712 00:35:37,135 --> 00:35:38,832 just to see what it would feel like. 713 00:35:38,875 --> 00:35:40,007 I don't know if he said, 714 00:35:40,050 --> 00:35:41,332 "This is what it's gonna feel like 715 00:35:41,356 --> 00:35:43,706 when you die or whatever," 716 00:35:43,750 --> 00:35:46,535 and then act like he was kidding. 717 00:35:46,579 --> 00:35:48,189 Yeah. 718 00:35:48,233 --> 00:35:50,844 I didn't really know him that well though. 719 00:35:50,887 --> 00:35:54,543 I just met him about three times in ten years. 720 00:35:54,587 --> 00:35:57,198 Yeah. 721 00:35:57,242 --> 00:35:59,200 - Hm. 722 00:35:59,244 --> 00:36:01,724 723 00:36:01,768 --> 00:36:06,555 - Yeah, I didn't... I didn't know him very well. 724 00:36:11,386 --> 00:36:13,388 - I could not do this. - Look, buddy. 725 00:36:13,432 --> 00:36:15,129 We're past it, okay? We're past it. 726 00:36:15,173 --> 00:36:17,000 There's too much evidence here, Russ. 727 00:36:17,044 --> 00:36:19,438 And hey, being, you know... 728 00:36:19,481 --> 00:36:22,136 Being honest, you're a church-going man. 729 00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:23,746 You're a church-going man? 730 00:36:23,790 --> 00:36:24,878 - Yes. - Yeah. 731 00:36:24,921 --> 00:36:26,314 - Think of Pastor Mike. 732 00:36:26,358 --> 00:36:27,576 Think what he would say. 733 00:36:27,620 --> 00:36:29,230 - He'd believe I didn't do this. 734 00:36:29,274 --> 00:36:30,449 - And what about God? 735 00:36:30,492 --> 00:36:31,687 God's in this room with us right now. 736 00:36:31,711 --> 00:36:33,843 - And God knows that I did not do this. 737 00:36:33,887 --> 00:36:35,280 I could not do this. 738 00:36:35,323 --> 00:36:37,325 I found her like that when I got home. 739 00:36:37,369 --> 00:36:40,067 - We're lied to all the time, but God, 740 00:36:40,110 --> 00:36:42,896 God knows the truth. 741 00:36:42,939 --> 00:36:45,681 - Oh, officers? 742 00:36:45,725 --> 00:36:49,207 Since you're asking me so much about Russ, 743 00:36:49,250 --> 00:36:50,686 should I be worried? 744 00:36:50,730 --> 00:36:52,732 - No, ma'am, we're keeping him at the station. 745 00:36:55,300 --> 00:36:58,128 - They say there's no right way to grieve. 746 00:36:58,172 --> 00:36:59,869 - Pam. 747 00:36:59,913 --> 00:37:02,220 Pam, what's going on? 748 00:37:02,263 --> 00:37:04,004 What are the police doing here? 749 00:37:04,047 --> 00:37:07,007 - Something happened, Minnie. Something terrible. 750 00:37:07,050 --> 00:37:08,008 I'll tell you about it later. 751 00:37:08,051 --> 00:37:11,838 I gotta go someplace. 752 00:37:11,881 --> 00:37:15,233 - Some of us may cry in times like these, 753 00:37:15,276 --> 00:37:18,323 while others get busy. 754 00:37:21,326 --> 00:37:25,199 755 00:37:31,423 --> 00:37:33,251 - He'll break. Not worried. 756 00:37:36,776 --> 00:37:38,691 - You were promoted to Homicide supervisor, 757 00:37:38,734 --> 00:37:40,606 what, a month ago? 758 00:37:40,649 --> 00:37:41,824 - Six months ago. 759 00:37:41,868 --> 00:37:43,609 - It shows. 760 00:37:46,742 --> 00:37:49,702 - You think after that 911 call he'd run out of tears. 761 00:37:49,745 --> 00:37:52,487 Where's the autopsy report? - Almost done. 762 00:37:52,531 --> 00:37:55,621 More than 50 stab wounds. It screams crime of passion. 763 00:37:55,664 --> 00:37:58,145 - Yeah, we got a lot of info from her best friend. 764 00:37:58,188 --> 00:37:59,494 She dropped her off right before. 765 00:37:59,538 --> 00:38:01,801 Said the guy's got a real temper. 766 00:38:01,844 --> 00:38:04,934 I mean, who else would do that to a woman dying of cancer? 767 00:38:06,806 --> 00:38:09,548 - And he still hasn't asked for a lawyer? 768 00:38:09,591 --> 00:38:11,376 - Loser doesn't even know he needs one. 769 00:38:14,379 --> 00:38:21,473 770 00:38:44,060 --> 00:38:51,198 771 00:39:01,774 --> 00:39:08,694 772 00:39:19,574 --> 00:39:21,010 Janet. 773 00:39:21,054 --> 00:39:23,361 Gosh. 774 00:39:23,404 --> 00:39:27,190 I don't know what to say. 775 00:39:27,234 --> 00:39:29,323 I got... I got you this. 776 00:39:29,367 --> 00:39:32,065 It made me think of Betsy. 777 00:39:32,108 --> 00:39:35,721 You know, her heart. 778 00:39:35,764 --> 00:39:38,898 779 00:39:38,941 --> 00:39:42,423 I have one just like it. 780 00:39:42,467 --> 00:39:44,686 - Who would do this? 781 00:39:44,730 --> 00:39:47,602 To Betsy? 782 00:39:47,646 --> 00:39:50,344 - Well, they're holding Russ, aren't they? 783 00:39:50,388 --> 00:39:52,781 - Russ? - Yeah. 784 00:39:52,825 --> 00:39:54,522 Police were asking all about him. 785 00:39:54,566 --> 00:39:56,524 Is he violent? Did he get verbal at her? 786 00:39:56,568 --> 00:39:58,047 All that kinda stuff. 787 00:39:58,091 --> 00:39:59,875 - Russ wouldn't have... 788 00:39:59,919 --> 00:40:04,489 - They still have him down at the station, you know? 789 00:40:04,532 --> 00:40:06,621 Doesn't look good. 790 00:40:10,451 --> 00:40:12,845 Well, you gonna let me in? 791 00:40:12,888 --> 00:40:14,063 792 00:40:14,107 --> 00:40:16,239 Or if it's just family... 793 00:40:16,283 --> 00:40:18,416 I... I drove all the way here, 794 00:40:18,459 --> 00:40:22,245 but I... I can go. - No, come in. 795 00:40:23,421 --> 00:40:25,335 You're family, Pam. 796 00:40:25,379 --> 00:40:27,381 - She's family. She's there for you. 797 00:40:27,425 --> 00:40:28,730 She's your neighbor. 798 00:40:28,774 --> 00:40:31,516 She's your friend from church. 799 00:40:31,559 --> 00:40:34,475 She's the one you never see coming. 800 00:40:34,519 --> 00:40:38,348 But that's the thing about Pam. 801 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,703 - Did you kill Betsy Faria? 802 00:40:44,746 --> 00:40:46,531 - No. 803 00:40:46,574 --> 00:40:48,315 - You boys want a cookie? 804 00:40:48,358 --> 00:40:49,553 - So I take it you knew Russell Faria. 805 00:40:49,577 --> 00:40:52,058 - I didn't really know the guy, 806 00:40:52,101 --> 00:40:54,539 but he seemed sorta... 807 00:40:54,582 --> 00:40:57,280 - Abusive? - Real abusive. 808 00:40:57,324 --> 00:40:58,412 - That's Joel Schwartz. 809 00:40:58,456 --> 00:41:00,240 - We're here for Pam Hupp's cell data. 810 00:41:00,283 --> 00:41:03,199 - Not many men can pull off a pink pocket square. 811 00:41:03,243 --> 00:41:04,549 - Russ started playing this game 812 00:41:04,592 --> 00:41:06,507 of putting a pillow over her face. 813 00:41:06,551 --> 00:41:08,509 - Who took Betsy home? - Her friend, Pam. 814 00:41:08,553 --> 00:41:09,945 - Why don't you tell me about Pam? 815 00:41:09,989 --> 00:41:11,120 - She's a nice lady. 816 00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:14,297 - I'm gonna make him pay for what he's done. 817 00:41:14,341 --> 00:41:15,298 - Sheriff's department! 818 00:41:15,342 --> 00:41:16,474 - But... 819 00:41:16,517 --> 00:41:17,475 - Russell Faria, you're under arrest. 820 00:41:17,518 --> 00:41:19,738 - We need someone who really knows 821 00:41:19,781 --> 00:41:21,696 Betsy and Russ' relationship. 822 00:41:23,829 --> 00:41:27,528 - Well, I know everything about it. 823 00:41:27,572 --> 00:41:29,617 - He killed his wife. - Objection. 824 00:41:29,661 --> 00:41:31,793 - Are you gonna object to my entire opening statement? 825 00:41:31,837 --> 00:41:33,684 - If you keep saying objectionable things, yeah. 826 00:41:33,708 --> 00:41:35,077 Pamela Hupp lied about 827 00:41:35,101 --> 00:41:36,557 where she was at the time of the crime. 828 00:41:36,581 --> 00:41:39,148 - All these questions are none of their business. 829 00:41:39,192 --> 00:41:41,170 - Pamela Hupp is not a suspect. - Yeah, well, she should be. 830 00:41:42,238 --> 00:41:44,197 - You're facing life in prison. 831 00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:47,505 - The prosecution calls Pamela Hupp to the stand. 832 00:41:47,548 --> 00:41:48,984 - I got it from here. 56443

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