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Two nights after
Christmas, clear and cold
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an unhurried and
contented fullness
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had settled on a small,
quiet town in Missouri
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an unobtrusive little place,
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sort of place that
didn't make a fuss,
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a town called Troy.
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It was December 27th, 2011.
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There'd be a fuss tonight.
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Troy was about to
make headlines.
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The dead woman on the
floor was Betsy Faria.
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It was obvious that her
wrists had been slashed.
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The blade of a kitchen knife
was still buried in her neck.
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A few feet away in the kitchen,
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her husband Russ was
on the phone with 911,
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sounding hysterical.
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Maybe too hysterical.
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Yeah, I... I just got home
from a friend's house and...
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And my wife... My
wife killed herself.
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She's... she's...
She's on the floor.
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A terrible story too often told.
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Dead wife, guilty
husband feigning grief.
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Open and shut, a
story like that.
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Easy to judge the
book by its cover.
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You'd think what
happened on Sumac Drive
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was at the hands of Russ Faria,
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and you'd be wrong.
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Dead wrong.
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Enter Pam Hupp.
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You know, when people
want you to admit
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to something you didn't
do? I can't do that.
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I'm not that kind
of person. Mm-mm.
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They don't know who I am.
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I'm a businesswoman!
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I do business all the time.
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Flip houses, turn a profit.
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I'm real successful.
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I'm a pillar of the community.
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She's a pillar of the community.
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Thanks, Ger! Great guy.
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I'm other stuff too:
A loving family woman.
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My husband, Mark.
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- He thinks I'm a hoot.
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My son, Travis.
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Owns his own condo
that I financed.
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Sarah, from my first marriage.
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All: Cheese!
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Don't we look great?
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Almost forgot!
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My mom, Shirley.
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R.I.P.
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Took care of her
till the very end.
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Just like my best friend, Betsy.
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Bets had a rough go with cancer,
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but I got through it.
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I miss ya, Bets.
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What happened to Betsy
was hard on me too.
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Probably more than anyone.
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Except maybe Betsy.
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And people still say, "Pam,
she's blah, blah, blah."
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But everyone knows
it was her husband.
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Did you hear that 911 call?
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Wah-wah-wah. What a faker.
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And then I get stuck
with his problems?
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I had to deal with her
bratty daughters, her mom...
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Oh, my God, her mom...
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But I was happy to help.
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And here we are,
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all because I was
such a good friend.
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Ah, the friend, the confidant.
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And my, my,
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such a story she could tell.
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- Hello.
- Hey, how ya feeling?
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Want me to bring some of those
suckers when I come back?
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This time, chemo wasn't bad.
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I feel kinda good, actually.
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Great, I'm glad.
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I was just thinking of that
bad day a couple chemos ago.
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You went and played
tennis after.
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- Mm.
- I pushed it too hard that day.
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Yeah, it took like an hour
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to clean all the
puke off the court.
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Wouldn't want that going
down at your mom's.
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Really, Pam.
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I'm good to stay.
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- My family's here and...
- See?
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That's what I'm worried about.
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All those germs when
your white count's low.
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Let me feed Mark and Travis,
then I'll come pick ya up, kay?
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- Can I come back and get you?
- Is that Russ?
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He should just stay out and
play his game. I got ya.
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If I wanna go home,
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he'll just get me
after his guys' night.
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- I don't mind driving.
- I'll come after dinner.
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See how you're doing.
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Drink lots of water.
I'll see you soon.
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Pam?
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Oh, have fun playing
karate priest.
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I'm a monk with
celestial powers.
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Oh, the mundane
moments of every day.
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The drinks we buy,
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the shops we frequent,
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the names we're able
to put to faces.
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Oh, we're out of cherry.
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- Ger?
- Oh.
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Sorry, Pam.
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Here you go.
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- Thanks.
- Uh-huh.
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Oh, hey, Dave.
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Happy late Christmas.
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Hey, Pam. You too.
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Thanks.
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- Santa treat you well?
- Nah.
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But I wasn't that good
neither.
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Maybe next year he'll bring
me a girlfriend, right?
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You kidding?
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Any girl just needs to get a
look at you in that uniform.
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It's the intent behind
the little things we do
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that says everything.
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This too.
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- Bye.
- Bye.
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It's those little things
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that may turn out to
prove your innocence.
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There are things in Troy
one takes for granted.
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The bit of history downtown,
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the winter chill, and safety,
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but certainly not murder.
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Those chemo rooms are tiny
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and there's no place to
be with all these people,
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- so I'm stuck standing.
- On your bad leg?
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All 'cause her mom's
friend Bobby's there
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and everyone thinks she's so
great 'cause she's from Texas
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like it's France or something,
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and I'm supposed
to be all impressed
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'cause that's
where Bobby's from.
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Now she wants Bets to
stay at her mom's tonight.
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But you're still
gonna go get her?
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Well, yeah.
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And you're gonna call me
after you drop off Betsy?
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Mm-hmm, that's my plan.
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- She ready?
- Pam.
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I didn't know you
were coming back.
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- Yeah, Bobby.
- Bets wanted me to.
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She's gotta get to bed.
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Win-win.
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Now I can hear more about Texas.
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- All your barbecue and stuff.
- Huh.
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Hey. Where's your coat?
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I'm not sure where it is.
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Betsy's playing her game.
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Why don't you just
stay for a drink?
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Sure. I can chill a sec.
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Oh, let me take your coat, hmm?
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No, I'm good.
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You play your game.
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My berserker goes
into adrenal rage...
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Plus three on all attacks
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and attacks the Lord of Entropy.
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You can't attack
the Lord of Entropy.
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He's a god!
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Are you sure you wanna do that?
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- No.
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Yes, yes, I attack.
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Okay, you heard him.
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I mean, everybody
roll to attack.
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- Jackass.
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You get that.
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Russ took a nice photo of
us on Christmas morning.
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Figured out how to set
the timer and everything.
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We're working on it.
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I just wish that he
wouldn't smoke in the house.
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With you in your condition?
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How's the game going?
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You know, maybe we just go
ahead and call it a night.
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Wait.
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No, Mom, I thought you
were staying with us
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at Grandma's house.
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Well, Pam came all
this way, so...
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I'll just see you
tomorrow, sweetie.
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Hmm.
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That big beanbag is something.
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Yeah, grandma got it
for me for Christmas.
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- It's called a LoveSac.
- Mm. Hmm.
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Wait, something got on it.
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Yeah.
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I saw that when I came in.
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Just asking for
trouble with white.
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Let's get these on ya.
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Here.
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Hey!
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I didn't get my hug.
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We'll save it for
tomorrow, Mama.
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- Aww.
- Yep. See ya, Janet.
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It's hard to know when a goodbye
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will turn out to be important.
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Who would ever
think this goodbye
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would turn out to be forever?
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Whoa.
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You maybe wanna slow
down just a little?
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No rush.
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Oh, was I speeding?
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Oops.
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What's the opposite
of night vision?
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That's what I got.
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- Yeah, I know.
- Russ could've drove me.
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Hey, let's watch a movie
at your place, huh?
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- It's been a long day, Pam.
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I'm tired.
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Hmm.
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Okay.
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Well, just a show, then.
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You can't spend enough time
with the people you love.
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Yeah, I know what you mean.
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I feel like I don't
see Mariah enough
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since she started
living with my mom.
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The school district
there is so much better.
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Well,
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me and the kids
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just wanted you to know that
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Russ has been so sweet.
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I know you're not
his biggest fan.
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He's a mess.
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Lord knows I'm a mess.
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That is why it is so good
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that you have got
your eye on us.
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And that you'll
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you'll
help my girls when...
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When... oh, God.
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I just don't want them to
have too hard of a time.
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Here we are.
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- Thanks for the ride, Pam.
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I promised Mark we'd
call him together
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- when we got home.
- Oh.
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- Is he okay?
- Yeah.
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Let's just call
him.
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Sure.
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- Great.
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Hmm.
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Wasn't he expecting you?
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Must be away from his phone.
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- Oh!
- Hey, it's Mark.
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- Leave a message.
- Get ready.
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Hey, Mark, it's us.
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Just got Betsy home and she's
gonna get all tucked in,
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but we just wanted to say hi.
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- Happy Christmas, Mark.
- Hope you're good.
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Thanks for loaning me Pam.
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Those little things,
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like a timestamped phone
call, for instance...
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- Perfect.
- Can make an alibi.
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The question is, will it stand?
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.
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Hello? I'm worried about ya.
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Bets, honestly, I don't know
why you're doing this to me.
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You mad or something?
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Call me. You better be okay.
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A phone can be both
sword and shield.
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Each call a strike or a defense.
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Janet, I've been trying
Betsy for like a half hour.
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No answer. Maybe
her phone's off?
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That's not like her, right?
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No, it isn't.
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00:14:53,109 --> 00:14:54,806
Maybe she's mad at
me or something?
263
00:14:54,850 --> 00:14:57,157
Oh, what would she
be mad at you for?
264
00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:58,636
I don't know.
265
00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,901
She wanted to watch a
movie until Russ came home,
266
00:15:01,944 --> 00:15:04,077
but I said, "You
just need to rest."
267
00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,862
So she said she's gonna
watch TV till he got home
268
00:15:06,906 --> 00:15:10,039
and he was gonna be home in,
you know, like, an hour or so,
269
00:15:10,083 --> 00:15:11,345
so I said "Okay."
270
00:15:11,388 --> 00:15:13,564
- But I would've stayed.
- Oh, God.
271
00:15:13,608 --> 00:15:15,958
I just hope she's not in a
bad place in her head again.
272
00:15:16,002 --> 00:15:17,873
Yeah, I shouldn't
have worried ya.
273
00:15:17,917 --> 00:15:20,963
Just wanted to see if
maybe you knew something.
274
00:15:21,007 --> 00:15:22,965
I'll keep checking,
275
00:15:36,109 --> 00:15:39,634
Leaving a friend's house,
do we notice the time?
276
00:15:39,677 --> 00:15:42,245
Should we?
277
00:15:52,342 --> 00:15:55,476
It's a funny thing, fate.
278
00:15:55,519 --> 00:15:57,913
All just a series of decisions.
279
00:15:57,957 --> 00:16:01,003
Right or left, stay or go.
280
00:16:01,047 --> 00:16:02,894
Welcome to Arby's. What
can I get for you tonight?
281
00:16:02,918 --> 00:16:06,182
- Um...
282
00:16:06,226 --> 00:16:09,490
I'll have the, uh,
chicken bacon Swiss.
283
00:16:09,533 --> 00:16:12,058
Uh, sorry, no.
284
00:16:12,101 --> 00:16:14,886
I'll have the beef
and cheddar melt.
285
00:16:14,930 --> 00:16:16,410
Sometimes one small thing
286
00:16:16,453 --> 00:16:18,890
could make all the
difference in the world.
287
00:16:18,934 --> 00:16:21,241
Sometimes it's
stopping at a light
288
00:16:21,284 --> 00:16:24,070
before a truck barrels
through the intersection.
289
00:16:24,113 --> 00:16:27,247
Actually, two beef and cheddars.
290
00:16:27,290 --> 00:16:30,076
Other times, it's how to satisfy
291
00:16:30,119 --> 00:16:32,600
a case of the munchies.
292
00:16:35,211 --> 00:16:37,518
Oh, thank you.
293
00:17:06,677 --> 00:17:10,812
- Hey, girl.
294
00:17:10,855 --> 00:17:13,119
Why you out here, huh?
295
00:17:13,162 --> 00:17:15,295
Come on.
296
00:17:21,953 --> 00:17:24,391
- Lincoln County 911.
- What's your emergency?
297
00:17:24,434 --> 00:17:26,436
Hello?
298
00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,880
Ma'am, I'm gonna need you to
take a couple of deep breaths.
299
00:17:28,917 --> 00:17:30,614
What's your name?
300
00:17:30,658 --> 00:17:35,097
- My name...
- My name is Russell Faria.
301
00:17:35,141 --> 00:17:38,187
Okay, Russell, what is
the address where you are?
302
00:17:38,231 --> 00:17:43,888
1... 1... 130 Sumac.
303
00:17:47,196 --> 00:17:51,461
I... I just got home from
a friend's house, and...
304
00:17:51,505 --> 00:17:53,637
And my wife...
305
00:17:53,681 --> 00:17:55,639
My wife killed herself.
306
00:17:55,683 --> 00:17:59,774
She's... she's...
She's on the floor.
307
00:17:59,817 --> 00:18:01,036
O... okay, Russell,
308
00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,560
I need you to calm
down, honey, okay?
309
00:18:03,604 --> 00:18:05,519
What did she do? Do you know?
310
00:18:05,562 --> 00:18:08,348
She's got a knife in her neck
311
00:18:08,391 --> 00:18:10,045
and she sliced her arms.
312
00:18:10,089 --> 00:18:12,743
Okay. Is she breathing at all?
313
00:18:12,787 --> 00:18:17,183
- She's dead.
314
00:18:17,226 --> 00:18:19,663
The worst call he
ever had to make,
315
00:18:19,707 --> 00:18:21,274
and Russ had no idea
316
00:18:21,317 --> 00:18:24,103
how much it would
be picked apart.
317
00:18:26,540 --> 00:18:26,714
.
318
00:18:28,890 --> 00:18:30,500
Russell, they're
on their way, hon.
319
00:18:30,544 --> 00:18:32,763
Okay, is there anybody
else in the house?
320
00:18:32,807 --> 00:18:34,200
No.
321
00:18:34,243 --> 00:18:36,811
No, I'm all alone.
322
00:18:39,292 --> 00:18:40,747
Russell, I've got a
couple of officers
323
00:18:40,771 --> 00:18:42,208
out there right now.
324
00:18:42,251 --> 00:18:44,055
Can you do me a favor
and open your front door?
325
00:18:50,129 --> 00:18:53,132
Sheriff's department.
326
00:18:55,438 --> 00:18:57,484
Sir, is there anyone
else in the house?
327
00:18:57,527 --> 00:18:59,486
No.
328
00:18:59,529 --> 00:19:01,009
You said your wife
killed herself?
329
00:19:01,052 --> 00:19:02,184
Yes.
330
00:19:02,228 --> 00:19:04,882
Oh, my God, Betsy.
331
00:19:09,452 --> 00:19:10,888
Could you please
take him outside?
332
00:19:18,722 --> 00:19:21,334
Got a female down at 130 Sumac.
333
00:19:21,377 --> 00:19:23,640
Looks to be a definite J4.
334
00:19:23,684 --> 00:19:25,599
Copy that.
335
00:19:32,606 --> 00:19:36,218
Update information at
crime scene, 130 Sumac.
336
00:19:40,614 --> 00:19:42,224
I'm just gonna get
this off of you.
337
00:19:42,268 --> 00:19:43,573
No witnesses as of yet.
338
00:19:43,617 --> 00:19:45,029
County's sweeping
the neighborhood now
339
00:19:45,053 --> 00:19:47,055
to see if anybody saw
or heard anything.
340
00:19:56,978 --> 00:19:59,110
It was 34 degrees in Troy
341
00:19:59,154 --> 00:20:03,114
when Detective Michael Merkel
took Russ' coat for evidence.
342
00:20:06,248 --> 00:20:07,989
Russ' beloved dog, Cicely,
343
00:20:08,032 --> 00:20:10,905
had been mysteriously
left outside the house.
344
00:20:10,948 --> 00:20:13,603
While inside, Captain Mike Lang
345
00:20:13,647 --> 00:20:17,259
and lead detective Ryan
McCarrick got to work.
346
00:20:19,174 --> 00:20:21,002
See the sock hanging off?
347
00:20:21,045 --> 00:20:22,351
Signs of a struggle.
348
00:20:22,395 --> 00:20:24,135
And the knife in her neck?
349
00:20:24,179 --> 00:20:25,920
Doesn't spell suicide.
350
00:20:25,963 --> 00:20:28,923
- You hear that 911 call?
- Totally over the top.
351
00:20:28,966 --> 00:20:30,794
We need to know everything
this guy touched
352
00:20:30,838 --> 00:20:32,622
in the last 24 hours.
353
00:20:32,666 --> 00:20:34,755
The scene will never be as
fresh as it is right now.
354
00:20:34,798 --> 00:20:36,646
- Here's one for ya.
- I didn't see a drop of blood
355
00:20:36,670 --> 00:20:37,801
anywhere on him.
356
00:20:37,845 --> 00:20:39,063
Must've washed it off.
357
00:20:39,107 --> 00:20:40,476
Check every inch
of the bathrooms.
358
00:20:40,500 --> 00:20:43,285
Showers, laundry. Find
where he washed it off.
359
00:20:50,249 --> 00:20:52,816
Hey, this pillow's
in a weird spot.
360
00:20:58,387 --> 00:20:59,649
Where am I going?
361
00:20:59,693 --> 00:21:00,844
We just need you to
come down the station,
362
00:21:00,868 --> 00:21:03,262
answer some questions
about your wife.
363
00:21:03,305 --> 00:21:05,176
Due diligence.
364
00:21:23,194 --> 00:21:24,433
How you liking
your first murder?
365
00:21:24,457 --> 00:21:26,043
Honestly, thought it'd
be harder to solve.
366
00:21:26,067 --> 00:21:28,504
We got statistics for
a reason, brother.
367
00:21:28,548 --> 00:21:31,115
Learned that in my
200 hours of training.
368
00:21:31,159 --> 00:21:32,508
This?
369
00:21:32,552 --> 00:21:35,468
Textbook spousal homicide.
370
00:21:35,511 --> 00:21:38,035
The drive to Betsy's was fine.
371
00:21:38,079 --> 00:21:42,257
Oh, my God, Mark, Janet got
Mariah this ginormous beanbag.
372
00:21:42,301 --> 00:21:43,867
The size of a house.
373
00:21:43,911 --> 00:21:45,782
Called a "love
suck" or something?
374
00:21:45,826 --> 00:21:49,177
Those things cost,
like, a $1,000.
375
00:21:49,220 --> 00:21:52,398
If I had beanbag money like that
376
00:21:52,441 --> 00:21:56,576
when I was her age, I'd
have gone to college.
377
00:21:58,273 --> 00:22:01,363
Ugh!
378
00:22:01,407 --> 00:22:02,364
Burned it.
379
00:22:20,643 --> 00:22:22,732
So, Russ, tell me
about you and Betsy.
380
00:22:22,776 --> 00:22:25,953
And you've been
married how long?
381
00:22:25,996 --> 00:22:28,390
12 years.
382
00:22:28,434 --> 00:22:31,306
12 years. That's a long time.
383
00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:33,395
You know, I know
marriages can get messy.
384
00:22:33,439 --> 00:22:35,919
You two had any problems?
385
00:22:35,963 --> 00:22:37,399
We had our bumps.
386
00:22:37,443 --> 00:22:39,401
We were separated.
387
00:22:39,445 --> 00:22:41,621
Didn't get along for
a bit but then we...
388
00:22:41,664 --> 00:22:45,973
We found this new church
and we worked it out.
389
00:22:46,016 --> 00:22:48,845
- Yeah?
- What's your pastor's name?
390
00:22:48,889 --> 00:22:49,890
Mike Shriner.
391
00:22:49,933 --> 00:22:52,371
You go to Morningstar?
392
00:22:52,414 --> 00:22:53,807
You know Mike?
393
00:22:53,850 --> 00:22:57,114
I know Pastor Mike. Great guy.
394
00:22:57,158 --> 00:22:58,681
He's a good friend.
395
00:22:58,725 --> 00:23:00,006
And everything with the family's
396
00:23:00,030 --> 00:23:01,380
been good since then?
397
00:23:01,423 --> 00:23:06,385
Well, uh, normal stuff.
398
00:23:06,428 --> 00:23:07,864
We found out our daughter Lily
399
00:23:07,908 --> 00:23:10,301
stole some money
from Betsy's mom.
400
00:23:10,345 --> 00:23:12,129
There's always something.
401
00:23:12,173 --> 00:23:14,828
Right. Always something.
402
00:23:14,871 --> 00:23:16,960
And she was sick?
403
00:23:17,004 --> 00:23:18,527
Depressed?
404
00:23:18,571 --> 00:23:20,137
Enough to kill herself?
405
00:23:20,181 --> 00:23:22,792
She had cancer.
406
00:23:22,836 --> 00:23:25,142
We thought she got rid of it.
407
00:23:25,186 --> 00:23:29,103
She had a mastectomy, but
it spread to her liver.
408
00:23:29,146 --> 00:23:30,626
Now it's in her liver
409
00:23:30,670 --> 00:23:34,717
even though she had
her whole boob removed.
410
00:23:34,761 --> 00:23:37,198
Am I allowed to go
to the bathroom?
411
00:23:37,241 --> 00:23:39,330
Look at him and decide:
412
00:23:39,374 --> 00:23:42,072
Do you see a killer?
413
00:23:42,116 --> 00:23:46,468
DA Leah Askey was about
to decide for herself.
414
00:23:46,512 --> 00:23:49,079
- Hey.
415
00:23:49,123 --> 00:23:50,429
Just wait till you hear this.
416
00:23:50,472 --> 00:23:51,841
I thought I told you not
to call me this late.
417
00:23:51,865 --> 00:23:53,016
What if I was home with Chris?
418
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,216
Yeah, but there's been a murder.
419
00:23:55,259 --> 00:23:57,827
A homicide, like, a big one.
420
00:23:57,871 --> 00:23:59,263
Okay. And?
421
00:23:59,307 --> 00:24:01,004
Some lady on Sumac got stabbed,
422
00:24:01,048 --> 00:24:03,529
I don't know, 20,
423
00:24:03,572 --> 00:24:05,487
maybe 60 times.
424
00:24:05,531 --> 00:24:07,054
I processed the
crime scene myself
425
00:24:07,097 --> 00:24:10,884
and, uh, we have the
husband here now.
426
00:24:10,927 --> 00:24:13,060
I'll be there first
thing in the morning.
427
00:24:13,103 --> 00:24:16,280
You Miranded him, right?
428
00:24:16,324 --> 00:24:17,760
Oh, yeah.
429
00:24:17,804 --> 00:24:19,022
Yeah.
430
00:24:19,066 --> 00:24:20,565
You know, hold on one
second for me, okay?
431
00:24:20,589 --> 00:24:21,677
Just hold on one second.
432
00:24:23,505 --> 00:24:25,202
- Sorry.
433
00:24:25,246 --> 00:24:28,510
Russ, how 'bout we make
this easier on both of us,
434
00:24:28,554 --> 00:24:30,381
'cause my patience is...
435
00:24:35,952 --> 00:24:41,218
Sit tight.
436
00:24:41,262 --> 00:24:44,221
- Oh, my God.
- Why would she do this to me?
437
00:24:47,181 --> 00:24:49,139
Hey. Sorry about that.
438
00:24:49,183 --> 00:24:52,534
You know, so much to do
and not enough bodies.
439
00:24:52,578 --> 00:24:55,319
Um, look, somehow...
440
00:24:55,363 --> 00:24:58,540
And bear with me, it's...
It's been a long day, but...
441
00:24:58,584 --> 00:25:00,605
You know, when we bring someone
in here to talk like this,
442
00:25:00,629 --> 00:25:03,284
we gotta run through
their rights with them
443
00:25:03,327 --> 00:25:04,851
and somehow I forgot, okay?
444
00:25:04,894 --> 00:25:07,462
So I'm just gonna run over
this with you real quick.
445
00:25:07,506 --> 00:25:09,899
Right, you have the
right to remain silent.
446
00:25:09,943 --> 00:25:11,834
Anything you say can and
will be used against you
447
00:25:11,858 --> 00:25:14,121
- in a court of law...
- Am I being arrested?
448
00:25:14,164 --> 00:25:15,924
We're just trying to
find out what happened
449
00:25:15,949 --> 00:25:17,646
and you've given us
great information.
450
00:25:17,690 --> 00:25:20,997
But do I need a lawyer?
451
00:25:21,041 --> 00:25:23,522
Only if you did something wrong.
452
00:25:25,436 --> 00:25:27,569
Okay, then.
453
00:25:27,613 --> 00:25:31,530
Do you think I could
get another blanket?
454
00:25:50,853 --> 00:25:52,638
Hello?
455
00:25:54,509 --> 00:25:56,642
Oh, my God, what happened?
456
00:25:58,731 --> 00:26:01,647
Sure, officer, thanks
for the heads-up.
457
00:26:03,649 --> 00:26:07,957
Well, my husband is
working, but I'll be here.
458
00:26:08,001 --> 00:26:10,003
Thanks.
459
00:26:28,804 --> 00:26:30,893
Oh.
460
00:26:57,833 --> 00:27:00,314
Hi. Come in.
461
00:27:00,357 --> 00:27:02,446
I've just been so upset.
462
00:27:02,490 --> 00:27:03,534
Sorry.
463
00:27:03,578 --> 00:27:05,798
Did we catch you at a bad time?
464
00:27:05,841 --> 00:27:07,538
Do you need a second to change?
465
00:27:07,582 --> 00:27:08,801
No, I'm good.
466
00:27:08,844 --> 00:27:10,716
And now's perfect.
467
00:27:13,849 --> 00:27:15,634
Can I get you anything?
468
00:27:15,677 --> 00:27:18,506
- Coffee?
- No, thanks, we're okay.
469
00:27:18,549 --> 00:27:19,989
Thanks for making
the time, Ms. Hupp.
470
00:27:20,029 --> 00:27:21,161
Of course.
471
00:27:21,204 --> 00:27:23,337
I just can't believe it.
472
00:27:23,380 --> 00:27:26,732
You can, um, sit
anywhere.
473
00:27:26,775 --> 00:27:29,212
So what happened to Betsy?
474
00:27:29,256 --> 00:27:31,519
Some kind of accident
or something?
475
00:27:31,562 --> 00:27:35,131
No, she's not accidentally dead.
476
00:27:35,175 --> 00:27:37,786
She's not naturally dead.
477
00:27:37,830 --> 00:27:38,831
What's that mean?
478
00:27:38,874 --> 00:27:40,025
It's an active investigation
479
00:27:40,049 --> 00:27:41,181
so we can't say much,
480
00:27:41,224 --> 00:27:43,836
but we're trying
to figure that out.
481
00:27:43,879 --> 00:27:45,185
Oh.
482
00:27:45,228 --> 00:27:47,100
We both know the
suicide thing is crazy.
483
00:27:47,143 --> 00:27:50,581
They've found 52 stab
wounds on her so far.
484
00:27:50,625 --> 00:27:52,409
No.
485
00:27:52,453 --> 00:27:53,280
No.
486
00:27:53,323 --> 00:27:54,455
- Yeah.
- No!
487
00:27:54,498 --> 00:27:56,196
They haven't been
able to stop counting.
488
00:27:56,239 --> 00:27:58,039
You're not gonna convince
us it was a suicide.
489
00:27:58,067 --> 00:28:01,505
- Betsy! No.
490
00:28:01,549 --> 00:28:04,030
- The truth will come out.
491
00:28:04,073 --> 00:28:05,074
The truth?
492
00:28:05,118 --> 00:28:06,554
Yeah, and this huge weight
493
00:28:06,597 --> 00:28:08,643
will be lifted off
your shoulders.
494
00:28:08,687 --> 00:28:10,645
What?
495
00:28:10,689 --> 00:28:14,301
You mean...
496
00:28:14,344 --> 00:28:15,737
I didn't do this.
497
00:28:15,781 --> 00:28:17,783
- All right. It's okay, bud.
498
00:28:17,826 --> 00:28:21,395
Look, let's go over
your story so far.
499
00:28:21,438 --> 00:28:22,677
You said you didn't
take Betsy home,
500
00:28:22,701 --> 00:28:24,528
that someone dropped
her off, right?
501
00:28:24,572 --> 00:28:26,400
- Who was that?
- Her friend Pam.
502
00:28:26,443 --> 00:28:28,576
She's been helping
us out with Betsy.
503
00:28:28,619 --> 00:28:30,447
- Okay.
- You mind spelling that for me?
504
00:28:30,491 --> 00:28:32,493
H-U...
505
00:28:32,536 --> 00:28:34,495
P-P.
506
00:28:34,538 --> 00:28:36,932
Um, it's a homeless shelter,
507
00:28:36,976 --> 00:28:39,500
- battered women in a church.
- Oh, that's so nice.
508
00:28:39,543 --> 00:28:41,023
So that's my Tuesday nights
509
00:28:41,067 --> 00:28:44,374
and Bets always likes to,
um, help those women with me,
510
00:28:44,418 --> 00:28:45,636
bring them dinner, you know.
511
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,465
I know, honey.
512
00:28:48,509 --> 00:28:49,728
The husbands aren't cooking,
513
00:28:49,771 --> 00:28:51,512
being they're battered
and everything.
514
00:28:51,555 --> 00:28:53,427
- Right.
- So from there,
515
00:28:53,470 --> 00:28:55,168
I go straight to my mom's.
516
00:28:55,211 --> 00:28:57,431
She's going through Alzheimer's.
517
00:28:57,474 --> 00:28:58,625
She doesn't know
what she's saying
518
00:28:58,649 --> 00:29:00,173
or where she is half the time.
519
00:29:00,216 --> 00:29:01,565
That must be hard.
520
00:29:01,609 --> 00:29:04,264
Oh, it is.
521
00:29:04,307 --> 00:29:05,787
And on top of all of that,
522
00:29:05,831 --> 00:29:07,591
I'm driving to Betsy to
all her appointments.
523
00:29:07,615 --> 00:29:10,183
She's got chemo,
whatnot, all her scans,
524
00:29:10,226 --> 00:29:12,576
but her family's
real appreciative.
525
00:29:12,620 --> 00:29:15,536
Her friends were
worried about her.
526
00:29:15,579 --> 00:29:17,644
It would help if you could
tell us more about last night.
527
00:29:17,668 --> 00:29:20,671
You said you got back
to Betsy's at 6:30 p.m.?
528
00:29:20,715 --> 00:29:21,716
Yes.
529
00:29:26,852 --> 00:29:28,636
Here we are.
530
00:29:28,679 --> 00:29:32,640
We left my husband a
voicemail when we got there.
531
00:29:32,683 --> 00:29:37,427
So he should have
that on his phone.
532
00:29:37,471 --> 00:29:39,125
You could ask him.
533
00:29:39,168 --> 00:29:40,276
You called from
inside the house?
534
00:29:40,300 --> 00:29:41,910
No, no, from the car.
535
00:29:41,954 --> 00:29:44,870
Right. And then you just
dropped her outside and left?
536
00:29:44,913 --> 00:29:46,262
Correct.
537
00:29:48,525 --> 00:29:50,136
Thanks for the ride, Pam.
538
00:29:50,179 --> 00:29:52,181
She was tired from the chemo.
539
00:29:52,225 --> 00:29:54,357
She puked her guts out earlier.
540
00:29:54,401 --> 00:29:56,795
Sweet dreams.
541
00:29:57,578 --> 00:29:59,101
I always bring suckers in my bag
542
00:29:59,145 --> 00:30:01,974
to help her with the nausea.
543
00:30:04,367 --> 00:30:06,128
But it must have been a
little later than 6:30.
544
00:30:06,152 --> 00:30:08,023
The drive is what, a half hour?
545
00:30:10,896 --> 00:30:14,682
Um...
546
00:30:14,725 --> 00:30:15,944
I'm so sorry.
547
00:30:17,728 --> 00:30:19,818
My brain gets kind
of funny sometimes.
548
00:30:19,861 --> 00:30:20,949
I get mixed up.
549
00:30:20,993 --> 00:30:22,361
- It's all right.
- Sorry to hear that.
550
00:30:22,385 --> 00:30:24,126
I had an accident at work.
551
00:30:24,170 --> 00:30:25,693
You know, we were
moving the office
552
00:30:25,736 --> 00:30:27,303
and there were
boxes laying around
553
00:30:27,347 --> 00:30:29,871
and I tripped and I fell
into a filing cabinet.
554
00:30:29,915 --> 00:30:31,438
Blah, blah, blah.
555
00:30:31,481 --> 00:30:34,006
You know, got knocked out,
had to have back surgery.
556
00:30:34,049 --> 00:30:36,443
Wow. How's your head?
557
00:30:36,486 --> 00:30:38,532
Your memory, I mean.
558
00:30:38,575 --> 00:30:39,620
Great.
559
00:30:39,663 --> 00:30:40,882
I have to remember everything
560
00:30:40,926 --> 00:30:44,103
for an entire house,
basically, so...
561
00:30:44,146 --> 00:30:46,453
- Mm.
- Hmm.
562
00:30:46,496 --> 00:30:48,194
So we were in the driveway,
563
00:30:48,237 --> 00:30:49,717
chit-chatted for a few...
564
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,198
Would you say it was
less than ten minutes?
565
00:30:52,241 --> 00:30:54,069
Gosh, I don't... I don't know.
566
00:30:54,113 --> 00:30:57,029
I don't know. I'm not sure.
567
00:30:57,072 --> 00:30:58,334
I don't remember.
568
00:30:58,378 --> 00:31:00,206
Between 10 and 20?
569
00:31:00,249 --> 00:31:02,425
Um, could've been, yeah.
570
00:31:05,602 --> 00:31:07,691
Wasn't paying attention though.
571
00:31:07,735 --> 00:31:09,998
I was just trying
to get out of there
572
00:31:10,042 --> 00:31:12,044
'cause with Betsy, you know...
573
00:31:17,179 --> 00:31:18,267
Here we are.
574
00:31:18,311 --> 00:31:20,617
Oh, thanks for the ride, Pam.
575
00:31:20,661 --> 00:31:25,535
Girl, anything for my best
friend in the entire world.
576
00:31:25,579 --> 00:31:27,233
I wish I could
just stay with you.
577
00:31:27,276 --> 00:31:28,364
Girls' night!
578
00:31:28,408 --> 00:31:30,018
Girls' night forever!
579
00:31:36,633 --> 00:31:41,551
She said she didn't have
clothes or anything with her.
580
00:31:41,595 --> 00:31:45,338
She was at her mom's,
I guess, all weekend.
581
00:31:45,381 --> 00:31:46,445
How come she was
staying at her mom's
582
00:31:46,469 --> 00:31:48,080
and not at Sumac Drive?
583
00:31:48,123 --> 00:31:50,038
That's Russ' house.
584
00:31:50,082 --> 00:31:52,693
He wouldn't let her put
her name on the title.
585
00:31:52,736 --> 00:31:54,956
Okay, but do you know why
she'd stay at her mom's?
586
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,264
A lot of it was she
didn't like to drive,
587
00:31:58,307 --> 00:32:02,268
and a lot of it was, um,
588
00:32:02,311 --> 00:32:03,791
she didn't wanna go home.
589
00:32:03,834 --> 00:32:06,141
Pam and Betsy hang
out sometimes.
590
00:32:06,185 --> 00:32:08,927
She likes talking to Pam.
591
00:32:08,970 --> 00:32:11,625
Pam is a good person.
592
00:32:11,668 --> 00:32:13,322
So were they currently separated
593
00:32:13,366 --> 00:32:15,020
and having issues or...
594
00:32:15,063 --> 00:32:16,282
Not right now.
595
00:32:16,325 --> 00:32:18,675
I mean, but that
would change a lot.
596
00:32:18,719 --> 00:32:21,635
They were separated,
gosh, six or seven times
597
00:32:21,678 --> 00:32:24,290
off and on through the years.
598
00:32:24,333 --> 00:32:26,118
He does a lot of pot.
599
00:32:26,161 --> 00:32:27,336
And he smokes in the house,
600
00:32:27,380 --> 00:32:29,904
even with her cancer and all.
601
00:32:29,948 --> 00:32:30,905
Mm-hmm.
602
00:32:30,949 --> 00:32:33,734
And his temper.
603
00:32:33,777 --> 00:32:36,693
That's how come Mariah
moved in with Betsy's mom.
604
00:32:38,695 --> 00:32:40,697
Was he ever violent with Betsy?
605
00:32:40,741 --> 00:32:42,656
I was at their place a lot.
606
00:32:42,699 --> 00:32:45,311
And, um, he's not...
607
00:32:45,354 --> 00:32:48,836
He's not the most, um...
608
00:32:48,879 --> 00:32:55,016
He was kinda not
nice verbally to her.
609
00:32:55,060 --> 00:32:58,063
Mm.
610
00:32:58,106 --> 00:33:00,195
You know the type.
611
00:33:00,239 --> 00:33:02,719
Real aggressive.
612
00:33:02,763 --> 00:33:05,026
He's a
pusher. He's a pusher.
613
00:33:05,070 --> 00:33:08,247
And I just don't
care for his type.
614
00:33:08,290 --> 00:33:10,181
Do you remember if Russ'
car was in the driveway
615
00:33:10,205 --> 00:33:12,599
- when you arrived?
- Uh, yeah.
616
00:33:12,642 --> 00:33:14,644
Here we are.
617
00:33:14,688 --> 00:33:18,083
Thanks for the ride, Pam.
618
00:33:18,126 --> 00:33:20,041
Oh, good, Russ is home.
619
00:33:20,085 --> 00:33:22,348
Looks like it.
620
00:33:22,391 --> 00:33:23,871
And did you go inside at all?
621
00:33:23,914 --> 00:33:28,049
- For a bit.
- She said she didn't go in.
622
00:33:28,093 --> 00:33:29,572
Betsy asked me to.
623
00:33:29,616 --> 00:33:32,532
Um, and, um, she
wanted to watch TV,
624
00:33:32,575 --> 00:33:34,621
but, um, I was
just trying to go.
625
00:33:34,664 --> 00:33:36,492
Were the lights on inside?
626
00:33:36,536 --> 00:33:38,016
No.
627
00:33:38,059 --> 00:33:40,366
The house was dark even
though Russ' car was there?
628
00:33:40,409 --> 00:33:44,239
Um, Russ' car was there
629
00:33:44,283 --> 00:33:47,590
and the lights were off,
630
00:33:47,634 --> 00:33:51,029
which we thought
was kind of weird.
631
00:33:51,072 --> 00:33:53,205
But then she goes...
Uh, she goes,
632
00:33:53,248 --> 00:33:54,641
"Oh, well, Russ is home.
633
00:33:54,684 --> 00:33:56,773
And he left the door
unlocked for me."
634
00:33:56,817 --> 00:34:00,255
And I said, "Well, I better
walk you to the door."
635
00:34:02,475 --> 00:34:04,433
She had a bag, blah, blah, blah,
636
00:34:04,477 --> 00:34:05,913
stuff like that.
637
00:34:05,956 --> 00:34:08,176
Uh, so I walked to the
door and in for just a bit,
638
00:34:08,220 --> 00:34:10,372
- till she could get a light on.
- And could you see...
639
00:34:10,396 --> 00:34:14,400
And then we had to put
her dog out in the yard
640
00:34:14,443 --> 00:34:16,924
'cause he was so annoying.
641
00:34:16,967 --> 00:34:18,186
Aggressive.
642
00:34:18,230 --> 00:34:21,059
I love dogs.
643
00:34:21,102 --> 00:34:23,061
Big dog fan.
644
00:34:23,104 --> 00:34:25,759
But I
just hate that type.
645
00:34:25,802 --> 00:34:27,935
- And then you left?
- Yes.
646
00:34:27,978 --> 00:34:29,458
And then I called
Betsy to make sure
647
00:34:29,502 --> 00:34:31,417
she got to bed okay.
648
00:34:31,460 --> 00:34:33,419
Could we see your phone?
649
00:34:34,855 --> 00:34:36,639
Mm-hmm.
650
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,600
Does Betsy's family know?
651
00:34:40,643 --> 00:34:42,341
Yes, they've been informed.
652
00:34:42,384 --> 00:34:44,386
Mm.
653
00:34:46,432 --> 00:34:48,303
Yeah, see?
654
00:34:48,347 --> 00:34:49,478
Called her when I got home.
655
00:34:49,522 --> 00:34:51,393
You were home when
you called her?
656
00:34:51,437 --> 00:34:52,873
Yep.
657
00:34:52,916 --> 00:34:54,657
Betsy knew I don't
see in the dark
658
00:34:54,701 --> 00:34:57,399
and she wanted me to check in.
659
00:34:57,443 --> 00:35:01,142
And then I ate something,
660
00:35:01,186 --> 00:35:03,623
a piece of pie, whatever,
661
00:35:03,666 --> 00:35:06,060
and then I went and got a shower
662
00:35:06,104 --> 00:35:10,325
and then I called
her mom.
663
00:35:15,896 --> 00:35:18,812
You know what you
should look for is...
664
00:35:18,855 --> 00:35:21,293
Is there was this letter
665
00:35:21,336 --> 00:35:25,253
that Bets was gonna send to me
666
00:35:25,297 --> 00:35:29,649
about Russ putting a
pillow over her face.
667
00:35:29,692 --> 00:35:31,999
- A pillow?
- Yeah.
668
00:35:32,042 --> 00:35:34,001
Russ started playing this game
669
00:35:34,044 --> 00:35:37,091
of putting a pillow
over her face, um,
670
00:35:37,135 --> 00:35:38,832
just to see what
it would feel like.
671
00:35:38,875 --> 00:35:40,007
I don't know if he said,
672
00:35:40,050 --> 00:35:41,332
"This is what it's
gonna feel like
673
00:35:41,356 --> 00:35:43,706
when you die or whatever,"
674
00:35:43,750 --> 00:35:46,535
and then act like
he was kidding.
675
00:35:46,579 --> 00:35:48,189
Yeah.
676
00:35:48,233 --> 00:35:50,844
I didn't really know
him that well though.
677
00:35:50,887 --> 00:35:54,543
I just met him about
three times in ten years.
678
00:35:54,587 --> 00:35:57,198
Yeah.
679
00:35:57,242 --> 00:35:59,200
Hm.
680
00:36:01,768 --> 00:36:06,555
- Yeah, I didn't...
- I didn't know him very well.
681
00:36:10,964 --> 00:36:12,966
- I could not do this.
- Look, buddy.
682
00:36:13,141 --> 00:36:15,129
We're past it,
okay? We're past it.
683
00:36:15,173 --> 00:36:17,000
There's too much
evidence here, Russ.
684
00:36:17,025 --> 00:36:19,419
And hey, being, you know...
685
00:36:19,481 --> 00:36:22,136
Being honest, you're
a church-going man.
686
00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:23,746
You're a church-going man?
687
00:36:23,790 --> 00:36:24,878
- Yes.
- Yeah.
688
00:36:24,921 --> 00:36:26,314
Think of Pastor Mike.
689
00:36:26,358 --> 00:36:27,576
Think what he would say.
690
00:36:27,620 --> 00:36:29,230
He'd believe I didn't do this.
691
00:36:29,274 --> 00:36:30,449
And what about God?
692
00:36:30,492 --> 00:36:31,687
God's in this room
with us right now.
693
00:36:31,711 --> 00:36:33,843
And God knows that
I did not do this.
694
00:36:33,887 --> 00:36:35,280
I could not do this.
695
00:36:35,323 --> 00:36:37,325
I found her like
that when I got home.
696
00:36:37,369 --> 00:36:40,067
We're lied to all
the time, but God,
697
00:36:40,110 --> 00:36:42,896
God knows the truth.
698
00:36:42,939 --> 00:36:45,681
Oh, officers?
699
00:36:45,725 --> 00:36:49,207
Since you're asking
me so much about Russ,
700
00:36:49,250 --> 00:36:50,686
should I be worried?
701
00:36:50,730 --> 00:36:52,732
No, ma'am, we're keeping
him at the station.
702
00:36:55,300 --> 00:36:58,128
They say there's no
right way to grieve.
703
00:36:58,172 --> 00:36:59,869
Pam.
704
00:36:59,913 --> 00:37:02,220
Pam, what's going on?
705
00:37:02,263 --> 00:37:04,004
What are the police doing here?
706
00:37:04,047 --> 00:37:07,007
- Something happened, Minnie.
- Something terrible.
707
00:37:07,050 --> 00:37:08,008
I'll tell you about it later.
708
00:37:08,051 --> 00:37:11,838
I gotta go some place.
709
00:37:11,881 --> 00:37:15,233
Some of us may cry
in times like these,
710
00:37:15,276 --> 00:37:18,323
while others get busy.
711
00:37:31,423 --> 00:37:33,251
He'll break. Not worried.
712
00:37:36,776 --> 00:37:38,691
You were promoted to
Homicide supervisor,
713
00:37:38,734 --> 00:37:40,606
what, a month ago?
714
00:37:40,649 --> 00:37:41,824
Six months ago.
715
00:37:41,868 --> 00:37:43,609
It shows.
716
00:37:46,742 --> 00:37:49,702
You think after that 911
call he'd run out of tears.
717
00:37:49,745 --> 00:37:52,487
- Where's the autopsy report?
- Almost done.
718
00:37:52,531 --> 00:37:55,621
More than 50 stab wounds.
It screams crime of passion.
719
00:37:55,664 --> 00:37:58,145
Yeah, we got a lot of
info from her best friend.
720
00:37:58,188 --> 00:37:59,494
She dropped her
off right before.
721
00:37:59,538 --> 00:38:01,801
Said the guy's
got a real temper.
722
00:38:01,844 --> 00:38:04,934
I mean, who else would do that
to a woman dying of cancer?
723
00:38:06,806 --> 00:38:09,548
And he still hasn't
asked for a lawyer?
724
00:38:09,591 --> 00:38:11,376
Loser doesn't even
know he needs one.
725
00:39:19,574 --> 00:39:21,010
Janet.
726
00:39:21,054 --> 00:39:23,361
Gosh.
727
00:39:23,404 --> 00:39:27,190
I don't know what to say.
728
00:39:27,234 --> 00:39:29,323
I got... I got you this.
729
00:39:29,367 --> 00:39:32,065
It made me think of Betsy.
730
00:39:32,108 --> 00:39:35,721
You know, her heart.
731
00:39:38,941 --> 00:39:42,423
I have one just like it.
732
00:39:42,467 --> 00:39:44,686
Who would do this?
733
00:39:44,730 --> 00:39:47,602
To Betsy?
734
00:39:47,646 --> 00:39:50,344
Well, they're holding
Russ, aren't they?
735
00:39:50,388 --> 00:39:52,781
- Russ?
- Yeah.
736
00:39:52,825 --> 00:39:54,522
Police were asking
all about him.
737
00:39:54,566 --> 00:39:56,524
Is he violent? Did
he get verbal at her?
738
00:39:56,568 --> 00:39:58,047
All that kinda stuff.
739
00:39:58,091 --> 00:39:59,875
Russ wouldn't have...
740
00:39:59,919 --> 00:40:04,489
They still have him down
at the station, you know?
741
00:40:04,532 --> 00:40:06,621
Doesn't look good.
742
00:40:10,451 --> 00:40:12,845
Well, you gonna let me in?
743
00:40:14,107 --> 00:40:16,239
Or if it's just family...
744
00:40:16,283 --> 00:40:18,416
I... I drove all the way here,
745
00:40:18,459 --> 00:40:22,245
- but I... I can go.
- No, come in.
746
00:40:23,421 --> 00:40:25,335
You're family, Pam.
747
00:40:25,379 --> 00:40:27,381
- She's family.
- She's there for you.
748
00:40:27,425 --> 00:40:28,730
She's your neighbor.
749
00:40:28,774 --> 00:40:31,516
She's your friend from church.
750
00:40:31,559 --> 00:40:34,475
She's the one you
never see coming.
751
00:40:34,519 --> 00:40:38,348
But that's the thing about Pam.
752
00:40:40,699 --> 00:40:40,916
.
753
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,703
Did you kill Betsy Faria?
754
00:40:44,746 --> 00:40:46,531
No.
755
00:40:46,574 --> 00:40:48,315
You boys want a cookie?
756
00:40:48,358 --> 00:40:49,553
So I take it you
knew Russell Faria.
757
00:40:49,577 --> 00:40:52,058
I didn't really know the guy,
758
00:40:52,101 --> 00:40:54,539
but he seemed sorta...
759
00:40:54,582 --> 00:40:57,280
- Abusive?
- Real abusive.
760
00:40:57,324 --> 00:40:58,412
That's Joel Schwartz.
761
00:40:58,456 --> 00:41:00,240
We're here for Pam
Hupp's cell data.
762
00:41:00,283 --> 00:41:03,199
Not many men can pull
off a pink pocket square.
763
00:41:03,243 --> 00:41:04,549
Russ started playing this game
764
00:41:04,592 --> 00:41:06,507
of putting a pillow
over her face.
765
00:41:06,551 --> 00:41:08,509
- Who took Betsy home?
- Her friend, Pam.
766
00:41:08,553 --> 00:41:09,945
Why don't you tell me about Pam?
767
00:41:09,989 --> 00:41:11,120
She's a nice lady.
768
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:14,297
I'm gonna make him pay
for what he's done.
769
00:41:14,341 --> 00:41:15,298
Sheriff's department!
770
00:41:15,342 --> 00:41:16,474
But...
771
00:41:16,517 --> 00:41:17,475
Russell Faria,
you're under arrest.
772
00:41:17,518 --> 00:41:19,738
We need someone who really knows
773
00:41:19,781 --> 00:41:21,696
Betsy and Russ' relationship.
774
00:41:23,829 --> 00:41:27,528
Well, I know
everything about it.
775
00:41:27,572 --> 00:41:29,617
- He killed his wife.
- Objection.
776
00:41:29,661 --> 00:41:31,793
Are you gonna object to my
entire opening statement?
777
00:41:31,837 --> 00:41:33,684
If you keep saying
objectionable things, yeah.
778
00:41:33,708 --> 00:41:35,077
- Pamela Hupp lied about
779
00:41:35,101 --> 00:41:36,557
where she was at the
time of the crime.
780
00:41:36,581 --> 00:41:39,148
All these questions are
none of their business.
781
00:41:39,192 --> 00:41:41,170
- Pamela Hupp is not a suspect.
- Yeah, well, she should be.
782
00:41:42,238 --> 00:41:44,197
You're facing life in prison.
783
00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:47,505
The prosecution calls
Pamela Hupp to the stand.
784
00:41:47,548 --> 00:41:48,984
I got it from here.
50588
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