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did you molest Denise no what about
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pamby no when I was three that's when he
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started with his penis yes I read how
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you'd bring them into your bedroom
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ask them to rub your back you wore no
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clothes and then then you'd have them
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lie next to you and you would molest
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them bringing me into the bedroom and
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saying you know you know rub my neck
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can you gonna rub my you don't remember
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of molesting Jenice I did lead into some
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type of sucking his dick or some I'm not
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you know June and Jerry no goddamn it
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touched me fondled me and told me don't
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you tell you mom there's all kinds of
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things that happen here
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why did you do that I didn't do that son
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of a [ __ ] now shut up now
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it's time to weep time to laugh a time
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to mourn and a time to dance
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I didn't even know what [ __ ] once in
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the second grade and nobody said not to
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do it or not to [ __ ] your cousin our
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parents were in the front of the mobile
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home playing cards and we were in the
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back bedroom she lost her virginity when
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she was 4 years old but it didn't start
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with us and it didn't start with our
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parents
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it started with our grandparents a long
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long time ago I decided to go back home
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and put the pieces of a long-forgotten
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puzzle together for the first time what
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was grandma's personality like back then
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she was cold I can remember her and dad
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would get ready to go out and remember
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she'd have her fingernails done and her
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hair done beautiful and it was like
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don't touch mom don't mess up her hair
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stay away till she had a few drinks then
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she's happy-go-lucky right she never
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worked panties
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she'd stand in the front yard spread her
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legs and pee that's our mother real
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class act how many times have you been
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married fine
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but only for a new for tonight and your
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first husband was Elmer and yet how many
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kids were there who were they the oldest
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floor
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two hands and Jim reviews memories be
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living out in Hanceville had a creek ran
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through
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when the rains came who was out there
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playing with little boats make little
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different channels and stuff like that
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Oh my earliest memory is probably when I
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was about 2 or 3 years old when they'd
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out in the country down the country road
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was a mom-and-pop store and gas station
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stuff and I remember hopping on my
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little tricycle to go down there and see
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my friend and my mother came after me
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with a willow switch and switched me all
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the way home we had all worked at berry
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fields your mother was out there Jim
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didn't do much to play around and then
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ditches but we picked berries all summer
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to make money and that's where we're
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gonna get our new school clothes shoes
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the hallward's they had an old chicken
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house or something there so in our off
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time out of the fields we would over
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clean this chicken house up and we'd
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literally wrote our own script for a
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little play he did a theater thing we
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run against all of the arrows there to
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come and see this play we put on a show
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phone so I knew entertainment was my
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line
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they were only kids
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and I don't mean return when they were
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labeling yeah really true of his
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appearing you know mom and had a contest
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with the guys one night out drinking
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gonna feared about this I didn't hear
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about this she bet she could be hired
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and they could and so they're okay
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they're ready to have this contest she
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says no hands she won and she bragged
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about that and her big thrill was to
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hide the guys undershorts stuff him
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under the car any of the seat whatever
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so whenever they were finished they
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couldn't find him and she brought him
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home she had all sizes okay
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thirteen years old and I'm seeing what's
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going on here under search the men's
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jockey shorts I remember that we lived
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behind the pita Weiser tavern right mom
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decided she was gonna leave dad it only
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took three months to get a divorce
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back then and like the day or two after
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the divorce was final she married Melvin
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Jess and she was already a month
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pregnant
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and then he married just that was Melvin
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just so he became the stepfather of he
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was the stepfather of myself the twins
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and Noble Jeff that grandpa just was
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your stepfather for how many years quite
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a few years comes well over a decade oh
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yeah yeah and it was also comments well
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he's not marrying our mother he's
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marrying her because she has three young
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daughters I was 12 years old at the time
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they were married and it just totally
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just destroyed our lives what was
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grandpa just personality like very
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caring person as far as I could tell
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they were happy
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so I mean I never saw him beating on my
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I was a punch bag to them you remember
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my mother
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Annamarie oh yeah what do you remember
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that nice little girl cute little girl
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one night they come home drinking and he
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was just literally beating the hell out
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of her she's down on the floor she had
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long hair and he's dragging her across
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the floor saying he was gonna take her
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out and run over with car and I ran in
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his closet and got his 12-gauge shotgun
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and pulled the trigger
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it just clicked cuz it wasn't loaded
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then he saw me and come across the room
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and threw me you put your hands down my
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mother's she tried to shoot you with the
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gun you were beating my grandma she
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pulled a rifle out and tried to shoot
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you stayed there but the gun was not
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loaded so he knew you tried to kill him
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how did he treat you he always treated
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me good I got a brand-new bicycle for my
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13th birthday
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brand-new Schwinn I think we were on
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welfare you know he was still after me
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that guy could fix any damn thing from a
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roller skate to an earthmover
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is probably the sharpest guy with a
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wrench I've ever seen what was life like
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then pretty mixed up pretty confusing
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just kind of crunched around and found a
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break in you know the old style
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batteries found a brick put a couple
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screws in there jumped up in that thing
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it started to talk to screws if the damn
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thing was running him long in our family
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and there was nothing else kid to do
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about it
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he took the engine out of the Bonneville
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adapted everything over it and put it in
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that Plymouth I was a hottest old car I
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ever seen I mean a guy will take two
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cats and tie the tails together and let
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him fight over clotheslines he'll when
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I'm dead
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that's a character he can always add to
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make his lunch
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and always wanted you know like two
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bologna sandwiches and this and that
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I used to admit inevitably the foil on
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the Bologna
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you haven't said the name of it damn you
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Jim you did it again we'd heard rumors
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of things that he had done but nothing
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ever pinpointed down and no one wanted
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to believe it especially our mother and
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killed the murdered the county nurse
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here highway 36 everybody knows it which
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kids did Grandma and Grandpa just half
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together they had June and Jerry joy and
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they were about two years apart so
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they're your half sisters mm-hmm geez
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you're a beautiful too much alcoholic
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like I was for now is younger hey go to
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bed drinking and as soon as I wake up
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say it's 3:00 in the morning it's time
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for a beer and a cigarette go to sleep
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wake up about five six styrodur in Syria
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and when I'm up at 8:00 for the rest of
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the day I'm drinking then are you down
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Pollak yeah actually I am
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are you addicted to drugs no have you
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been in the past yes lots for a long
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time I used to sell drugs I made my
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living selling drugs I can't even look
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at my own two little sisters knowing he
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destroyed them June and Jerry he
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destroyed them and my mother went along
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with it
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[Applause]
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so you've been watching grandma getting
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progressively less enthused about living
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get to where I could niche and couldn't
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walk couldn't even get around in the
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wheelchair I didn't hear from mom ever
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since I moved back into this area ten
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years ago my brother I just liked him
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for what he's doing my mom what is his
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profession now in home care i've
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actually pulled three of her teeth you
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talk about a gutsy default pliers she'd
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sit there in the doorway and i take
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their pliers and yank him out there's
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one of them had to try three times it
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was evidently went up and curved the
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third time i tried it i went ahead and
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did a little bit of a twist on it and i
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came back
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see you got girl cry well mom is upset
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because Uncle Jim is still letting you
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drink a lot of beer and six beers she's
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wasted does Uncle Jim drink with her
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nope
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does he fire the beer yep enjoy my beer
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and we talked to the doctor and if she
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eats right he's going to permit her to
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have that beer the doctor told me I
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could and I think he knows better than
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and does he told you if she wants two or
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three beers before she goes to bed it's
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all right can't take everything away
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from her
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that's if she'll eat 50% of her supper
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meal she gets in she gets that as a
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reward
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so psychology you know I'll tell you
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what to reach his life right now suppose
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the twins came that kind of gave the
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wheel there's a tear in your beer
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because I'm crying for you dude you were
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always on my mind into these last few
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beers you don't think it's the drinking
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that is doing grandma in right now no I
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think that's one day it's keeping her
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going I wait her night before last
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she had 16 ounces of beer before she
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went to bed
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she weighed 72 pounds
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take away sixteen sixteen ounces of beer
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he's back down to 17 pounds
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she'd be up to 85 if you come to with 10
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more pounds of beer
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she can't handle ten pounds how is uncle
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Jim now huh how was Uncle Jim down how
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is he you know he propositioned Jerri
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when she's totally down and out to come
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and live with him and he'll take care of
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her but to be his like his wife delivers
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a couple sexual satisfaction is where he
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put it the only reason I did it is
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because I don't want being alone Jerry
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has not had a home in years
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he wanted me to live with him and sleep
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with him
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I'm Jerry make something of yourself
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I will help you she gave us some thought
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why do you think she'd have a problem
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basically being your wife I almost had
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dawned on you Oh oh [ __ ] I think he's
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sick okay this is trying to get me and I
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think yesterday I
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I hadn't seen him for a long time when I
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was living up and Washington he came and
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he seen me and we went for a walk out in
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the apple orchard cuz I was working at
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an apple orchard and he grabbed my boob
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I think two consenting adults whatever
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they deem is right is right you know to
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hell with what the rest there is having
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sex with your daughter eating right
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there's a lot of guys that do it I went
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like that and just said knock it off and
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I headed back to the house to kill
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someone that's definitely wrong but to
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have sex with a stepsister I don't see
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where that is all that wrong well
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half-sister you have the same mother
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okay what advice did you give Jerry I
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just told her I said well it's up to you
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how do you feel about him now I won't
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put myself in a position to be alone
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with him for nothing nowhere
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what did you say I turn no I can't do
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this Jim you're my brother I can't live
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with you I can't sleep with you you're
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my brother don't you get it so
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I was five years old when one of my
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uncle's molested me we were down in the
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basement of our house where my mom made
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apple jelly it was really dark
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he was already hard when he unzipped his
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pants and pulled out his penis and asked
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me to play with it I just did what he
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said I was curious about everything why
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not
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grownups penis it wasn't sexual to me it
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was sexual to him I was just a little
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kid
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since Uncle Jim was abused as a kid my
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grandpa just his stepfather I asked him
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about the relationship back then well as
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far as Melvin was concerned I couldn't
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do nothing right mom and him came in I
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was asleep that was a pallet on the
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floor and this must be me mom and then
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Melvin and that guy somehow had her
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drunk enough that he ended up in the
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middle and he woke me up with his hands
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down my clothes and all over and then
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I've got up out of bed screaming and
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saying mom what's going on here and he
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act like he was half-asleep and soon
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nothing's going on and she says what's
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wrong with you you get back into bed I
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says no way I went only got in the
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corner is child molester what he was
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he tried to take my younger sister into
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a bedroom I knew what was going on which
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one and my mom yeah your Aunt Jean and
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aunt Jen and I were rehearsing for a
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song we were going to sing the next day
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in Sunday school mom was out drinking he
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had come home and went to bed and pretty
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soon he hollers anna-marie and he
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hollered two or three times and I went
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to his bedroom door and he said get over
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here he pulled me down on top of him I
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thought that might be the end of it
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wasn't that lucky I went in went to bed
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and pretty soon Melvin came in gotten
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bad and within a couple minutes he's
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reaching over and putting his hands in
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my pajamas down into my panties
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my mom's been suicidal my whole life I
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used to pretend over and over in my head
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that she was dead so if it actually
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happened
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I wouldn't freak out and just lose it
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one of the last calls in fact the last
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call I that gets my head from her about
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committing suicide she was in the
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bathtub had already sliced her wrists
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there's been more than one time when I
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did try to commit suicide
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how overdosing on pills I slashed my
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wrists and then got into a warm bath tub
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I mean I'd be on a phone with her for
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long enough for her to bleed to death
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and she was making sure to keep the
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water warm just to make her bleed faster
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have you attempted suicide
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well twice and then once I was
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overwhelmed again but I'm a shotgun out
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was no she was soon
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I remember stretching backstage at this
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dance competition I got a call that my
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mom had hooked a hose up to her exhaust
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pipe and fed it through the window of
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her convertible I hooked the hose up to
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my car I called the paramedics and just
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went out on stage our champions hail
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from the Los Angeles Valley doors
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she hosts her own music video show in
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London England and James Whitney who was
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a Chippendales dancer going for third
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victory this evening welcome James and
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Sally
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i sat there concentrating on the routine
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and acted as though nothing happened
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grandpa just destroyed my family and
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almost destroyed my mom when I'm
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finished with him he'll either be in
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jail or he'll be dead that's a promise
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we can't just sit back and act like
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we're victims or we become the losers
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it's all about finding a way to survive
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if your mom kills herself shame on her
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but you can't let it destroy you talk
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about it get angry about it do whatever
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you've got to do but don't give up when
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I decide I better stop this stuff is
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when you came in the hospital room one
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time you were in college and you were so
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mad at me you were so mad even when my
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mom cries it's hard for me to go up and
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just put my arms around her how could
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you do this I wouldn't wasn't doing
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something to you I didn't mean to be
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doing it to you
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[Music]
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when things get heavy I'd rather sit
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down at the keyboards and write a song
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and just deal with it through music the
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more my family told me the heavier
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things got I was determined to keep my
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promise but for some reason Melvin and
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myself
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and the kids went divorce instead he got
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tired
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one evening he took the two little girls
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in the back and I remember the truck
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rock I had a piece of sand in my eye I
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guess you know how irritating that is
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there's no way that I could sleep and I
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kind of yelled at him you know think the
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baby he get the sand out of my eye he's
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like shut up and go to sleep I don't
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want to hear another word out of you I
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think I was 15 at the time but just you
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know the motion was truck and everything
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you tell what's going on did you ever
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tell the authorities what he was doing
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yeah but they couldn't prove nothing but
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you still stayed with them for a while
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yeah did you ever say anything to him
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what the authorizing when June was two
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years old is when I walked in and found
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him molesting her in bed I had already
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told you part of this though that I
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suspected what was going on mom would
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get up and act like she's going to fix
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the bottle and then she would take Jim
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out of bed take her diaper off and put
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her in bed with Melvin he made it a
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point to let her by know he slept in the
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nude there are all kinds of things that
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happened here which of the kids were you
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closest to June is kind of your favorite
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yeah you know my mother actually walked
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in on the two of you when he was
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molesting you is it because you block
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all of this out that you don't rent sure
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of it I'm sure of it do you remember
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giving Jerry and her friends tampons to
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have sex with him no tampons I mean that
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was a good one for him when we got on
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the Ray yeah running by a stamp รถzil if
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you need to do something or something
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wait a minute yeah that's not too good
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that's sick
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I've always been very close with June
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and Jerry and even though they're
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intelligent their lives are pretty
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messed up my mom has a very high IQ and
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survived by learning about these psychos
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even to this day she reads about Ted
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Kaczynski Jeffrey Dahmer helter skelter
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was unbelievable and rule the stranger
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beside meathead bending there was Norman
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Mailer wrote the executioner's song what
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is your IQ
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well the last time we checked it was 160
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and yours was 158 and you've been trying
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to you've been competing with me ever
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since but that's how I raised you to be
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competitive my mom never gave up and she
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raised me not to give up I wanted to do
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whatever I could to help her with the
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past so I just kept on trying to learn
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all the different pieces of the puzzle
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[Applause]
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the judges give James and Sally three
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and three-quarter stars and we would
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watch game shows we didn't watch game
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shows we've competed with these game
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shows which you know that paid off for
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you because later you went on a couple
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of dates again that's very fine you made
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a lot of money doing that
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morning alarm clock yes one down three
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to go
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okay
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digging shoveling Spade pile a hole
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I moved on to the next competition and
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grandpa just moved on to his next family
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my dad left my mom for Venise and that
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is a fact he left mom for Venice Benson
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who lived down the road who had a bunch
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of little girls and he ended up with her
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and those little girls and he molested
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every one of them and the reason he left
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my mom for venes is because she had all
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those young daughters at least once or
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twice during them practically hope just
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after this girl in one minute we were
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pissed off for that girl so we were
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moving bed stir periodically the niece
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was known second wife after you she's
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still living what was beneath like she
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was okay mom that she was ignorant she
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was like my mom oh no he wouldn't be
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doing that and yeah she talked to me on
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the phone one time yeah he was more than
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she could take care of I said oh you
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wanted him baby take care of him she
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said well if I just had a little help
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around man I said well I didn't have any
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help with them I don't think I was that
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line but maybe I was but I was there
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constantly I wasn't out and about
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drinking or anything I was there all the
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time with my kids
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[Music]
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and II was born in 16
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Denis was born at 62 what's your
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relationship like with Vinny snow right
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now beyond Bobby was born in 65 oh yeah
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Manya she just played it off like it was
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normal routine no no no you got what no
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uncle grandpa hydrogen ease and 79 did
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you know what did you tell her what
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happened
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oh yeah we all did all of us did I mean
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you know three times I came to her no I
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just said mom I'm feeling like it's my
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fault like I you're all mad at me and
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she said hey is it your fault
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is it no mom
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straight up although I believed what my
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aunt's told me venes deny that they ever
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talked to her about the abuse who are
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your real sisters and who are your half
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sisters I've got so many to count
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00:29:48,910 --> 00:29:52,930
Mel is my dad her dad in June's bed is
541
00:29:52,930 --> 00:29:54,340
my mom she was barefoot and pregnant
542
00:29:54,340 --> 00:29:57,400
when she had Pam be his natural children
543
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:02,460
that he fathered is June and Jerry joy
544
00:30:02,460 --> 00:30:10,360
with my mother and Janice
545
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,260
with Vinicius Benson those are his
546
00:30:14,260 --> 00:30:16,539
natural children as far as stepchildren
547
00:30:16,539 --> 00:30:18,340
there's your aunt Jan and Aunt Jane the
548
00:30:18,340 --> 00:30:27,010
twins myself your uncle Jim we were
549
00:30:27,010 --> 00:30:30,100
Hurst of his first stepchildren when he
550
00:30:30,100 --> 00:30:31,510
left my mother and what was the niece
551
00:30:31,510 --> 00:30:38,730
the stepchildren would have been Pam be
552
00:30:40,530 --> 00:30:45,750
Denise and Bobby would have been his
553
00:30:45,750 --> 00:30:48,990
stepdaughters but this is where I live
554
00:30:48,990 --> 00:30:51,480
this here was given to me mm-hmm this
555
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,910
camper I mean it's pretty trash but it
556
00:30:53,910 --> 00:30:57,080
was given to me from a friend of mine
557
00:30:58,550 --> 00:31:00,780
and that's my refrigerator
558
00:31:00,780 --> 00:31:05,190
oh you want to see my fridge I live it
559
00:31:05,190 --> 00:31:08,070
in the back of a Nissan pickup there's
560
00:31:08,070 --> 00:31:11,490
only room now for a bed and I have my
561
00:31:11,490 --> 00:31:14,450
dog my two cats a new boyfriend and
562
00:31:14,450 --> 00:31:17,490
anything we have to keep with us it's
563
00:31:17,490 --> 00:31:19,620
right there beside us who can sleep with
564
00:31:19,620 --> 00:31:24,110
it and they're gonna my freezer Hey
565
00:31:24,110 --> 00:31:26,880
this is for the fourth of July what are
566
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,280
those vodka cherries you need to clean
567
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:30,690
it up if you had none we were coming
568
00:31:30,690 --> 00:31:34,020
right this is we're coming to my house
569
00:31:34,020 --> 00:31:36,260
now this is where I live
570
00:31:36,260 --> 00:31:42,390
come on in oh I'm sure more lights the
571
00:31:42,390 --> 00:31:48,390
two of you here dog you're forever a
572
00:31:48,390 --> 00:31:51,000
Jane Curtin III do have brain damage
573
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,710
just falling out of trees
574
00:31:52,710 --> 00:31:54,840
you know just bumping my head too many
575
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,200
times who taught you how to walk the
576
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,890
Shriners did
577
00:32:06,980 --> 00:32:10,210
did your mother teach you
578
00:32:10,870 --> 00:32:16,980
no but I taught her with a stroller mm
579
00:32:16,980 --> 00:32:19,360
she had to push the stroller the kids
580
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,310
would pull it and make her walk didn't
581
00:32:21,310 --> 00:32:24,070
like that well then she got to move it
582
00:32:24,070 --> 00:32:26,800
around and then we lost it what exactly
583
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,610
are you diagnosed with ehlers-danlos
584
00:32:30,610 --> 00:32:35,170
syndrome she was born congenital no hip
585
00:32:35,170 --> 00:32:37,770
sockets no knee joint and a clubfoot
586
00:32:37,770 --> 00:32:41,410
which is sounds worse than what it is
587
00:32:41,410 --> 00:32:44,620
and then they tried to tell me she was
588
00:32:44,620 --> 00:32:47,080
retired to what she was she is a retired
589
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,140
she's small you know these seen those
590
00:32:50,140 --> 00:32:52,510
kind of people but my daughter had this
591
00:32:52,510 --> 00:32:57,580
attitude that yay look at me I'm gonna
592
00:32:57,580 --> 00:33:01,860
get attention by preying on this
593
00:33:02,590 --> 00:33:14,880
[Music]
594
00:33:15,870 --> 00:33:18,150
she had everybody buffaloed bit their
595
00:33:18,150 --> 00:33:21,419
mother so how far back do you remember
596
00:33:21,419 --> 00:33:27,360
what age age of five where were you
597
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,900
living who who was raising you Denise
598
00:33:30,900 --> 00:33:36,500
and Melvin it started when I was two I
599
00:33:36,500 --> 00:33:39,110
was two years old instead of a lesson
600
00:33:39,110 --> 00:33:44,220
and then and then when I was 878 sick
601
00:33:44,220 --> 00:33:47,490
man then he started to molest me
602
00:33:47,490 --> 00:33:55,260
at the age of five he started doing sex
603
00:33:55,260 --> 00:34:01,010
with me like kind of pretty
604
00:34:01,010 --> 00:34:04,110
you know what inside of me I was too
605
00:34:04,110 --> 00:34:09,869
small when I was three that's when he
606
00:34:09,869 --> 00:34:15,469
started with his penis yes twisting
607
00:34:15,469 --> 00:34:19,080
doing the twisting child you know who
608
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,349
could do the twist and I did the twist
609
00:34:22,349 --> 00:34:30,599
and she I won 25 cents oh yeah if he
610
00:34:30,599 --> 00:34:34,879
doesn't corner of the way inside of me I
611
00:34:34,879 --> 00:34:39,510
would get paid a quarter or half away 50
612
00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:42,219
cents the hallway was a dollar
613
00:34:42,219 --> 00:34:43,989
[Music]
614
00:34:43,989 --> 00:34:47,179
what if you just said no he wouldn't
615
00:34:47,179 --> 00:34:48,679
listen to the word null he didn't like
616
00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:49,489
the word null
617
00:34:49,489 --> 00:34:52,609
twist him doing the twist and shout
618
00:34:52,609 --> 00:34:54,800
every time I turn around I was gonna get
619
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,190
molested get poked by the ride by the
620
00:34:58,190 --> 00:35:02,260
cop okay you might call it prick I
621
00:35:02,260 --> 00:35:05,569
didn't like the smell and he was dirty
622
00:35:05,569 --> 00:35:08,119
it was never clean he never wore short
623
00:35:08,119 --> 00:35:11,060
he had an awful odor I mean I don't
624
00:35:11,060 --> 00:35:13,609
worry sometimes here but they sound
625
00:35:13,609 --> 00:35:19,760
clean who didn't take shower you gave
626
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,920
her a quarter you were allowed to go a
627
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,140
quarter of the way yet who could do the
628
00:35:24,140 --> 00:35:28,810
twist $0.50 half way don't be stupid
629
00:35:28,810 --> 00:35:31,969
[Music]
630
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:37,790
he abused my rights as an adult as a
631
00:35:37,790 --> 00:35:41,810
child as an infant what was the worst
632
00:35:41,810 --> 00:35:45,040
crime he did in your mind
633
00:35:45,530 --> 00:35:47,079
[Music]
634
00:35:47,079 --> 00:35:50,359
have you ever strangled anybody that
635
00:35:50,359 --> 00:35:55,250
heard the night chatter thanks well they
636
00:35:55,250 --> 00:35:59,869
get to finish now but they won't bring
637
00:35:59,869 --> 00:36:04,910
him down here no they have tried to say
638
00:36:04,910 --> 00:36:07,460
that over the years because somebody
639
00:36:07,460 --> 00:36:09,800
started the rumor that he did that do
640
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,339
you remember when I went to visit
641
00:36:13,339 --> 00:36:17,710
grandma and went over to Grandpa Jess
642
00:36:17,710 --> 00:36:20,000
was this at the same time that was going
643
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,500
on well he and mom were already
644
00:36:21,500 --> 00:36:25,280
separated and I had let you go spend 4
645
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,290
or 5 days and the first thing she just
646
00:36:27,290 --> 00:36:28,760
took you out loaded you all in the car
647
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,099
and took you down to Melbourne just
648
00:36:30,099 --> 00:36:32,960
knowing that he's a child molester why
649
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,369
would you have taken me over there did
650
00:36:34,369 --> 00:36:39,260
you trust him at that turn yes do you
651
00:36:39,260 --> 00:36:43,069
want to see your grandpa my own mother
652
00:36:43,069 --> 00:36:45,470
did that to me but she knew it was
653
00:36:45,470 --> 00:36:49,280
molesting the kids at that time no I
654
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,700
didn't know it for sure when I was in a
655
00:36:52,700 --> 00:36:54,750
little stroller
656
00:36:54,750 --> 00:36:58,470
I've gone over to Fey's house
657
00:36:58,470 --> 00:37:00,780
Bobby recalled when she was in a little
658
00:37:00,780 --> 00:37:03,480
stroller grandpa just would drive in and
659
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,570
you had warned Bobby to back like she
660
00:37:06,570 --> 00:37:07,470
was asleep
661
00:37:07,470 --> 00:37:10,859
what was that all about he was my last
662
00:37:10,859 --> 00:37:17,780
Jimmy at what age she was very old and
663
00:37:17,780 --> 00:37:22,920
he was having sex with me one time he
664
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,680
had both of his leg on one leg on each
665
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,640
leg was I told him he was crashing them
666
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,760
he didn't listen long as he got what he
667
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,000
wanted then the nightmares ma'am
668
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,859
breathing on me and knowing then he's
669
00:37:37,859 --> 00:37:40,170
gonna carry me into the bedroom and the
670
00:37:40,170 --> 00:37:42,710
whole nine yards and I was a child
671
00:37:42,710 --> 00:37:45,030
bringing me into the bedroom and said
672
00:37:45,030 --> 00:37:47,160
you know you rub my neck
673
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,560
can you gonna rub my kidney and rub me
674
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,320
you know yeah it did lead into some type
675
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,540
of sucking his dick or something I'm not
676
00:37:54,540 --> 00:37:58,859
you know I don't I'm pretty foggy
677
00:37:58,859 --> 00:38:02,250
he tends to living in that house Ron I
678
00:38:02,250 --> 00:38:05,280
was only three four five six seven eight
679
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:05,970
years old
680
00:38:05,970 --> 00:38:10,440
all those years you put the bed gay on
681
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,160
his penis and stick it inside of me
682
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,410
sorry I still got the scar inside of me
683
00:38:16,410 --> 00:38:19,430
been scar
684
00:38:25,619 --> 00:38:28,270
first started out as color crayons
685
00:38:28,270 --> 00:38:31,620
how many color crayons you can use
686
00:38:31,620 --> 00:38:34,909
[Music]
687
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,360
to penetrate up inside you without it
688
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:42,070
hurtin no once when you get up to four
689
00:38:42,070 --> 00:38:43,480
or five let me know
690
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,069
[Music]
691
00:38:47,069 --> 00:38:50,819
which colors were they
692
00:38:54,060 --> 00:38:56,610
then it was all about hot dogs not the
693
00:38:56,610 --> 00:38:58,230
hot dogs you buy the store but this was
694
00:38:58,230 --> 00:39:00,570
a link you can stick one of those up
695
00:39:00,570 --> 00:39:04,830
there near least halfway let me know why
696
00:39:04,830 --> 00:39:07,910
would you tell him when you could I
697
00:39:07,910 --> 00:39:12,270
didn't know no better I thought it was
698
00:39:12,270 --> 00:39:14,490
the thing to do that everybody's parents
699
00:39:14,490 --> 00:39:17,610
it did that he says well I'll tell you
700
00:39:17,610 --> 00:39:21,600
what this is how it is says Ida [ __ ] my
701
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,700
sister my sister [ __ ] my dad my dad
702
00:39:23,700 --> 00:39:25,530
[ __ ] my mom and my mom [ __ ] the
703
00:39:25,530 --> 00:39:28,240
mailman that write on my [ __ ] frog
704
00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:30,470
[Laughter]
705
00:39:30,470 --> 00:39:33,820
[Music]
706
00:39:33,820 --> 00:39:36,650
it was always me by myself whenever he
707
00:39:36,650 --> 00:39:40,460
decided to take me someplace either to
708
00:39:40,460 --> 00:39:43,630
the dump or was mainly to the dump
709
00:39:43,630 --> 00:39:49,910
prostitution okay well we were out in
710
00:39:49,910 --> 00:39:54,530
the dumps and the dumps where nobody
711
00:39:54,530 --> 00:39:56,390
could hear you scream nobody could hear
712
00:39:56,390 --> 00:40:00,080
you cry it hurts but then it would meet
713
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,310
somebody on the way back and he would
714
00:40:03,310 --> 00:40:06,170
exchange cash or whatever or whatever
715
00:40:06,170 --> 00:40:08,540
and said now you got to go down here and
716
00:40:08,540 --> 00:40:10,810
please him either give him a head job or
717
00:40:10,810 --> 00:40:13,820
spread your legs and you better be nice
718
00:40:13,820 --> 00:40:15,680
because if you ain't nice I'm taking out
719
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:20,050
on you later he got money lots of money
720
00:40:20,050 --> 00:40:22,480
just pictures he even took pictures
721
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:28,330
that's sick he told me to be
722
00:40:28,330 --> 00:40:32,450
experimental and who I experimented on
723
00:40:32,450 --> 00:40:35,770
was Jerry
724
00:40:37,270 --> 00:40:40,720
she really liked it so you got stuff all
725
00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:44,470
over my face yeah I think yeah I'm her
726
00:40:44,470 --> 00:40:46,600
sister experiences but from what I see
727
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,540
no they don't I was walking down the
728
00:40:49,540 --> 00:40:52,000
beach yeah started back and there was a
729
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,000
struck coming and it was dark seeing his
730
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,210
headlights coming I all kinds of
731
00:40:58,210 --> 00:41:02,920
different pills coatings and valiums and
732
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,530
all kind of Downers what's your
733
00:41:05,530 --> 00:41:09,670
relationship like with June Jenna end up
734
00:41:09,670 --> 00:41:12,790
using me and abusing me and telling me
735
00:41:12,790 --> 00:41:15,490
it was okay and she was molesting you
736
00:41:15,490 --> 00:41:20,080
yeah but these pills were taking effect
737
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,630
and I never told anybody I took them and
738
00:41:22,630 --> 00:41:24,370
I just was walking like that
739
00:41:24,370 --> 00:41:26,950
nonchalantly and when it got close
740
00:41:26,950 --> 00:41:28,960
enough I stepped right out and burned it
741
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,810
first slice and slice of my wrist a
742
00:41:31,810 --> 00:41:35,260
couple of times I tried to commit
743
00:41:35,260 --> 00:41:37,840
suicide at the age of 16 to I tried to
744
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,740
go to try to draw myself taking my car
745
00:41:41,740 --> 00:41:43,240
going up to the mountains and want and
746
00:41:43,240 --> 00:41:45,670
drive it off the side you know I mean
747
00:41:45,670 --> 00:41:48,790
how did you try to drown yourself by
748
00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:52,600
walking through water and then it got
749
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,940
deeper and deeper I walked in with my
750
00:41:54,940 --> 00:41:57,670
braces on and with all of the girls this
751
00:41:57,670 --> 00:41:59,710
is what's happened to him it things
752
00:41:59,710 --> 00:42:02,170
become so overwhelming you just want out
753
00:42:02,170 --> 00:42:06,460
or you want help and you can't get out
754
00:42:06,460 --> 00:42:10,390
and you can't get help and look where
755
00:42:10,390 --> 00:42:15,760
they are today trying to OD on cough
756
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,880
syrup and beer I had to have
757
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:19,510
mouth-to-mouth
758
00:42:19,510 --> 00:42:22,540
an ambulance came in it breaks my heart
759
00:42:22,540 --> 00:42:25,390
it breaks my heart and what can I do I'm
760
00:42:25,390 --> 00:42:27,350
gonna do something
761
00:42:27,350 --> 00:42:27,830
[Music]
762
00:42:27,830 --> 00:42:30,400
[Applause]
763
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,230
we both said we'd do something but we
764
00:42:33,230 --> 00:42:35,570
didn't know what to do here our Morgan
765
00:42:35,570 --> 00:42:41,840
Sandberg and Ron Whitney mom kept
766
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,010
attempting suicide
767
00:42:43,010 --> 00:42:46,430
I kept competing in dance contests and
768
00:42:46,430 --> 00:42:52,880
game shows we did rent a motor home and
769
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,660
went to visit everybody life just went
770
00:42:56,660 --> 00:43:02,120
on grandma and venes kept denying
771
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:06,800
everything and grandpa just kept on
772
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,070
molesting the kids over and over and
773
00:43:10,070 --> 00:43:12,340
over
774
00:43:12,340 --> 00:43:14,180
please let this be over
775
00:43:14,180 --> 00:43:17,110
let this be done quit doing this to me
776
00:43:17,110 --> 00:43:20,560
Jenice is your own child
777
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,540
really and at age two you began
778
00:43:23,540 --> 00:43:28,810
molesting her really come on now
779
00:43:28,810 --> 00:43:32,480
hello neighbor voices art black boy yes
780
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,400
I know we see that white shirt over
781
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,890
there I wish I could have white Cadillac
782
00:43:36,890 --> 00:43:37,640
like that
783
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:40,550
yeah they look black voices not mean you
784
00:43:40,550 --> 00:43:42,980
know what I wish I was had hair all over
785
00:43:42,980 --> 00:43:46,730
my body over my body and they go hey
786
00:43:46,730 --> 00:43:49,190
hair all over your body yeah
787
00:43:49,190 --> 00:43:51,260
my sister got a patch this big Jim
788
00:43:51,260 --> 00:43:59,180
Beauchamp a number when I came to visit
789
00:43:59,180 --> 00:44:04,090
you on Morgan Road yeah
790
00:44:05,790 --> 00:44:08,280
you know we took a little trip up there
791
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,230
then we ran the motorhome and off we
792
00:44:10,230 --> 00:44:12,930
went of course we had to stop and see
793
00:44:12,930 --> 00:44:15,990
them I mean their family that's when I
794
00:44:15,990 --> 00:44:34,650
was 16 I know we can't have anything
795
00:44:34,650 --> 00:44:40,530
together tell you get some hair I know
796
00:44:40,530 --> 00:44:42,960
my family's not exactly normal
797
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,940
I'm not even sure what normal is
798
00:44:44,940 --> 00:44:47,730
supposed to be I've had no kids that
799
00:44:47,730 --> 00:44:49,830
raised three monkeys my wedding was a
800
00:44:49,830 --> 00:44:52,530
lot of fun but it wasn't traditional or
801
00:44:52,530 --> 00:44:55,150
emotional
802
00:44:55,150 --> 00:44:58,670
[Music]
803
00:44:58,670 --> 00:45:04,480
I need you we've had some pretty lousy
804
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,470
experiences but we've never lost our
805
00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:09,950
sense of humor and it's okay that not
806
00:45:09,950 --> 00:45:57,410
everybody gets it train up a child in
807
00:45:57,410 --> 00:46:00,330
the way she should go
808
00:46:00,330 --> 00:46:03,170
they are old they will not turn from it
809
00:46:03,170 --> 00:46:09,380
how do you feel about Jenice Jenny's
810
00:46:09,530 --> 00:46:11,580
she's my sister
811
00:46:11,580 --> 00:46:18,420
I love her but I worry about her why for
812
00:46:18,420 --> 00:46:20,700
what she's doing to the kids and then
813
00:46:20,700 --> 00:46:24,770
what she's gonna introduce her kids to
814
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:29,930
prostitution criminals what do you mean
815
00:46:29,930 --> 00:46:35,910
drug addicts what do I mean looking at
816
00:46:35,910 --> 00:46:43,200
her I mean you look at her okay maybe if
817
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,300
she don't get a piece of ass maybe you
818
00:46:45,300 --> 00:46:46,920
know I'm Frankie gets a little older you
819
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,720
know hey get her in here boy
820
00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:53,000
daughter to you what about Clarissa
821
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,190
Clarissa I'm hoping she's smarter
822
00:46:56,190 --> 00:47:13,170
there's a kidney baby mama love this is
823
00:47:13,170 --> 00:47:15,330
her straight-a student
824
00:47:15,330 --> 00:47:23,760
Clarissa cycles of abuse tend to
825
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,340
continue did that happen with Clarissa
826
00:47:26,340 --> 00:47:33,590
with Frankie no I got molester now seven
827
00:47:33,590 --> 00:47:38,520
and I felt like it was my fault I did
828
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,220
something bad but I thought that I
829
00:47:41,220 --> 00:47:45,450
deserved it and it was a punishment
830
00:47:45,450 --> 00:47:48,540
there's the this is like the only really
831
00:47:48,540 --> 00:47:51,030
badging that I get scared is this rope
832
00:47:51,030 --> 00:47:54,780
and it comes closer and closer and I
833
00:47:54,780 --> 00:47:57,690
don't know what it means but it I don't
834
00:47:57,690 --> 00:47:58,530
have him anymore
835
00:47:58,530 --> 00:48:01,170
where are you standing I'm hit I'm
836
00:48:01,170 --> 00:48:03,089
standing on the other side of the room
837
00:48:03,089 --> 00:48:05,369
and the rope is coming directly at you
838
00:48:05,369 --> 00:48:08,640
yeah do you feel safe in life in general
839
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:13,829
now yeah who makes you feel safe my mom
840
00:48:13,829 --> 00:48:16,829
my brother sometimes he can be a real
841
00:48:16,829 --> 00:48:22,829
brat and imagine my mom's boyfriend are
842
00:48:22,829 --> 00:48:26,099
you close with grandpa grandpa just sort
843
00:48:26,099 --> 00:48:30,359
of I don't see it much anymore how do
844
00:48:30,359 --> 00:48:32,670
you feel when you go around him I feel
845
00:48:32,670 --> 00:48:33,509
sad
846
00:48:33,509 --> 00:48:35,579
but you know he's a child molester and
847
00:48:35,579 --> 00:48:37,829
you know what he did to your mom why
848
00:48:37,829 --> 00:48:40,009
would you want to feel close with him
849
00:48:40,009 --> 00:48:45,479
because it's I will always love him but
850
00:48:45,479 --> 00:48:50,789
it he won't be forgiven but he's part of
851
00:48:50,789 --> 00:48:53,479
a family
852
00:49:01,220 --> 00:49:03,500
years ago when she was just a girl and
853
00:49:03,500 --> 00:49:06,170
joong-won the police about grandpa just
854
00:49:06,170 --> 00:49:12,079
I get headache being a vessel lien and a
855
00:49:12,079 --> 00:49:15,619
hot dog day for dog to play with and I
856
00:49:15,619 --> 00:49:16,760
wouldn't got all that stuff out of there
857
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:21,079
and gave it to the police and that and
858
00:49:21,079 --> 00:49:23,329
but my little sisters would not talk
859
00:49:23,329 --> 00:49:25,700
about it they went up to the cops went
860
00:49:25,700 --> 00:49:28,280
up to the school and everything but they
861
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:29,960
wouldn't say nothing the kids wouldn't
862
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,640
say nothing so they didn't do nothing to
863
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:36,619
him about it in 1980 my aunt's were
864
00:49:36,619 --> 00:49:39,829
finally willing to testify grandpa just
865
00:49:39,829 --> 00:49:42,890
was arrested he was charged with 12
866
00:49:42,890 --> 00:49:45,010
counts of child molestation
867
00:49:45,010 --> 00:49:47,930
so you and Jerry's got on the stand yeah
868
00:49:47,930 --> 00:49:52,760
and I just draw a picture of a penis and
869
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,270
I did it was crowded I felt all along
870
00:49:56,270 --> 00:50:03,650
even God wasn't even with me those of
871
00:50:03,650 --> 00:50:05,960
you oh I saw some looks I try not to
872
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,140
look at him because it went to grand
873
00:50:09,140 --> 00:50:12,650
jury I tried to look at the juror I
874
00:50:12,650 --> 00:50:14,750
couldn't even do that he was found
875
00:50:14,750 --> 00:50:16,819
guilty and given 13 years he served
876
00:50:16,819 --> 00:50:20,900
eight when they took him away the family
877
00:50:20,900 --> 00:50:23,480
felt like somebody finally listened to
878
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,770
what they had to say a ton of bricks
879
00:50:27,770 --> 00:50:29,810
instantly just like flew off my
880
00:50:29,810 --> 00:50:32,480
shoulders I was free when did he go to
881
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:33,079
jail
882
00:50:33,079 --> 00:50:37,670
Oh in about 1980 cuz he was in for eight
883
00:50:37,670 --> 00:50:40,280
years and got out in 88 look at all
884
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,589
those years all those kids and here he
885
00:50:42,589 --> 00:50:44,960
only got eight years you know inside you
886
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,640
just want to take that machine gun and
887
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,390
just cut him right in half yeah then he
888
00:50:50,390 --> 00:50:51,920
turns around and tells the court that
889
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,720
you can't ease intimate he can't if I
890
00:50:53,720 --> 00:50:59,690
can get it up excuse me yeah excuse me
891
00:50:59,690 --> 00:51:04,040
oh yeah your mom she's no good mm-hmm
892
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,640
what yeah you're the best
893
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:15,740
yeah yeah the most disgusting human
894
00:51:15,740 --> 00:51:17,660
being God ever created and he taught me
895
00:51:17,660 --> 00:51:20,510
to hate where did you say you grew up I
896
00:51:20,510 --> 00:51:24,050
grew up right here no place else right
897
00:51:24,050 --> 00:51:27,230
here how long did you live here about
898
00:51:27,230 --> 00:51:31,550
thirty years you got you have a birthday
899
00:51:31,550 --> 00:51:32,240
coming up
900
00:51:32,240 --> 00:51:34,970
no your tag what that's what it was and
901
00:51:34,970 --> 00:51:39,950
Father's Day was last match yeah did
902
00:51:39,950 --> 00:51:43,730
anybody come and visit you oh god damn
903
00:51:43,730 --> 00:51:44,860
it
904
00:51:44,860 --> 00:51:50,030
Vinny's didn't come to visit no do that
905
00:51:50,030 --> 00:51:50,810
over the bank
906
00:51:50,810 --> 00:51:52,760
where I used to take him out to threads
907
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,740
for biscuits and gravy well I can't do
908
00:51:54,740 --> 00:52:00,500
that anymore just it's too too hard to
909
00:52:00,500 --> 00:52:04,910
do and so I've just decided I'll take
910
00:52:04,910 --> 00:52:10,400
them doing did you molest Denise no what
911
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,280
about pamby No
912
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,260
well I talked to them in depth about it
913
00:52:16,260 --> 00:52:21,720
I bet the court transcripts and now I'm
914
00:52:21,720 --> 00:52:24,420
taking a pancake I read how you'd bring
915
00:52:24,420 --> 00:52:26,880
them into your bedroom
916
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,820
ask them to rub your back you wore no
917
00:52:29,820 --> 00:52:32,310
clothes and then then you'd have them
918
00:52:32,310 --> 00:52:33,780
lie next to you and you would molest
919
00:52:33,780 --> 00:52:46,890
them do it so every Sunday now you bring
920
00:52:46,890 --> 00:52:51,390
him blueberry pancakes yeah I'm not
921
00:52:51,390 --> 00:52:53,130
there winning things I should be there
922
00:52:53,130 --> 00:52:54,870
that he growled
923
00:52:54,870 --> 00:52:57,440
you don't remember holding pamby down
924
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,090
hurting her legs and her telling you to
925
00:53:00,090 --> 00:53:06,360
get off of her no no buddy you don't
926
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:11,400
remember of molesting Jenice nope June
927
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:16,440
and Jerry no goddamnit remember giving
928
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,840
Jerry and her friends tampons to have
929
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,590
sex with them Oh
930
00:53:22,580 --> 00:53:25,670
you even put bengay on your penis and
931
00:53:25,670 --> 00:53:28,440
penetrated pamby with it you've never
932
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,160
doing that No
933
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:35,690
you burned her physically inside why did
934
00:53:35,690 --> 00:53:38,630
you do that I didn't do that son of a
935
00:53:38,630 --> 00:53:43,010
[ __ ] now shut up now you gave her a
936
00:53:43,010 --> 00:53:45,740
quarter if you were allowed to go a
937
00:53:45,740 --> 00:53:48,740
quarter of the way in fifty cents half
938
00:53:48,740 --> 00:53:49,990
way
939
00:53:49,990 --> 00:53:55,930
one dollar all the way don't be stupid
940
00:53:55,930 --> 00:54:03,150
[Music]
941
00:54:03,150 --> 00:54:07,170
but I'm going to show you how goddamn
942
00:54:07,170 --> 00:54:10,270
able I am to get above this wheelchair
943
00:54:10,270 --> 00:54:14,100
and not the dog [ __ ] right out of you
944
00:54:14,630 --> 00:54:17,720
you want to think you want to see that
945
00:54:17,720 --> 00:54:24,920
huh how evil are you do you want to see
946
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:30,660
tell me I'd say you want to see you put
947
00:54:30,660 --> 00:54:32,990
your hands down my mother's panties
948
00:54:32,990 --> 00:54:37,350
uh-huh you wet you put your hands down
949
00:54:37,350 --> 00:54:38,850
my mother's panties she tried to shoot
950
00:54:38,850 --> 00:54:44,250
you with the gun you were beating
951
00:54:44,250 --> 00:54:47,820
grandma she pulled a rifle out and tried
952
00:54:47,820 --> 00:54:51,950
to shoot you but the gun was not loaded
953
00:54:53,030 --> 00:54:57,330
she made that up right yeah they all
954
00:54:57,330 --> 00:54:59,140
made everything up right yeah
955
00:54:59,140 --> 00:55:02,250
[Music]
956
00:55:08,730 --> 00:55:11,840
[Music]
957
00:55:16,660 --> 00:55:29,270
[Music]
958
00:55:29,270 --> 00:55:32,910
when I asked you about that incident
959
00:55:32,910 --> 00:55:34,950
that happened with the nurse he told me
960
00:55:34,950 --> 00:55:37,920
that you had nothing to do with it right
961
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,190
I tried to get grandpa Jess to finally
962
00:55:41,190 --> 00:55:44,090
confess to the 1969 murder of the nurse
963
00:55:44,090 --> 00:55:46,320
she was a social worker who'd been
964
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,270
assigned to protect the children what
965
00:55:48,270 --> 00:55:50,060
does it feel like to strangle somebody
966
00:55:50,060 --> 00:55:52,800
hello I know because you strangled the
967
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:54,090
nurse I did not
968
00:55:54,090 --> 00:55:56,580
instead I turned to my family for some
969
00:55:56,580 --> 00:55:57,620
answers
970
00:55:57,620 --> 00:56:02,430
her name was Josephine I forget the last
971
00:56:02,430 --> 00:56:04,650
name it was like Spiegel or something
972
00:56:04,650 --> 00:56:04,980
like that
973
00:56:04,980 --> 00:56:10,530
I think she's 5 945 pounds dark hair
974
00:56:10,530 --> 00:56:14,310
kind of gruff didn't to live by herself
975
00:56:14,310 --> 00:56:17,670
we were told that she wore men's pajamas
976
00:56:17,670 --> 00:56:20,370
and smoked a pipe and was on a masculine
977
00:56:20,370 --> 00:56:23,460
side she kept an itinerary and the last
978
00:56:23,460 --> 00:56:24,840
thing on her schedule she had been to
979
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,310
one house and was on her way to the just
980
00:56:26,310 --> 00:56:28,550
house
981
00:56:29,550 --> 00:56:34,560
she walked in unannounced they had a bed
982
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,530
in the living room and he was in bed
983
00:56:37,530 --> 00:56:40,860
with one of the girls and he's laying
984
00:56:40,860 --> 00:56:44,330
there with me all right and then he goes
985
00:56:44,330 --> 00:56:49,020
hey you and I go what he goes go in your
986
00:56:49,020 --> 00:56:51,630
room and take a nap so I went into my
987
00:56:51,630 --> 00:56:53,880
room we heard screaming and hollering
988
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,330
she goes I am NOT gonna let you hurt
989
00:56:57,330 --> 00:57:00,240
these Benson kids like you hurt your own
990
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:02,850
the nurse was going to tell tell the
991
00:57:02,850 --> 00:57:04,920
cops about what was going on with those
992
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,820
kids and he didn't like that idea
993
00:57:07,820 --> 00:57:11,930
and what would he say he would slap her
994
00:57:11,930 --> 00:57:14,970
just up and slap her she tried to leave
995
00:57:14,970 --> 00:57:16,380
and he grabbed her there was kind of a
996
00:57:16,380 --> 00:57:18,270
struggle it was like both you better
997
00:57:18,270 --> 00:57:20,310
kill me because I'm gonna hurt you what
998
00:57:20,310 --> 00:57:23,070
did you hear the voice say he's saying
999
00:57:23,070 --> 00:57:25,710
he was gonna kill her next thing I know
1000
00:57:25,710 --> 00:57:29,280
is he grabbed the stupid iron of some
1001
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:29,760
sort
1002
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,619
he took a fireplace poker and hit her in
1003
00:57:31,619 --> 00:57:34,230
the head anyway went boom knocked her
1004
00:57:34,230 --> 00:57:36,180
down slammed her up against the wall is
1005
00:57:36,180 --> 00:57:38,790
what I heard slammed up against the wall
1006
00:57:38,790 --> 00:57:42,050
boom I heard the wall I heard her slam
1007
00:57:42,050 --> 00:57:46,440
heard the lace seeing the buttons next
1008
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,180
thing you know is she ended up on the
1009
00:57:48,180 --> 00:57:52,080
ground I started to scream I was in my
1010
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,890
bedroom under and underneath the bed
1011
00:57:54,890 --> 00:57:58,380
hiding from it hiding from it and I said
1012
00:57:58,380 --> 00:58:00,840
[ __ ] shut the door cuz he looked at
1013
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:07,200
me and he was humping on her I seen that
1014
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:11,520
he was killing her and her at the same
1015
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,670
time you actually were screwing her
1016
00:58:14,670 --> 00:58:16,080
while you were strangled when you got
1017
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,260
knocked in Ariadna I didn't know he was
1018
00:58:19,260 --> 00:58:21,570
humping her I mean I knew he was humping
1019
00:58:21,570 --> 00:58:23,869
her but I didn't know it was killing her
1020
00:58:23,869 --> 00:58:26,250
until the next day when I seen all the
1021
00:58:26,250 --> 00:58:29,400
blood what does that feel like I don't
1022
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:30,630
know what it feels like you have knots
1023
00:58:30,630 --> 00:58:31,860
in your hair
1024
00:58:31,860 --> 00:58:35,190
he took a polygraph examination and
1025
00:58:35,190 --> 00:58:37,990
flunked it miserably and one of the
1026
00:58:37,990 --> 00:58:39,850
questions what did you did you kill the
1027
00:58:39,850 --> 00:58:41,650
nurse why would they make something like
1028
00:58:41,650 --> 00:58:46,300
that out don't have any idea if you
1029
00:58:46,300 --> 00:58:48,070
score a minus seven on a polygraph
1030
00:58:48,070 --> 00:58:50,980
examination you're considered deceptive
1031
00:58:50,980 --> 00:58:53,110
that's word they use he scored a minus
1032
00:58:53,110 --> 00:58:55,150
sixteen did you remember the police
1033
00:58:55,150 --> 00:58:56,740
asking you questions about it
1034
00:58:56,740 --> 00:58:59,350
he didn't ask me a question divided he
1035
00:58:59,350 --> 00:59:01,240
denied and denied and denied and then at
1036
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:02,770
one point near the end of this interview
1037
00:59:02,770 --> 00:59:05,520
I asked him about the fireplace poker
1038
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,890
the police never investigated no I know
1039
00:59:08,890 --> 00:59:13,600
they did I spoke to the police you're
1040
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,800
lying or they're lying one or two and
1041
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,530
expression came over his face to me was
1042
00:59:20,530 --> 00:59:21,760
how do you know about that
1043
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:25,750
did you remember Lonnie Lawson yeah and
1044
00:59:25,750 --> 00:59:27,190
he finally near the end he leaned
1045
00:59:27,190 --> 00:59:28,600
forward in his chair and he slapped
1046
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,010
himself on the leg he said okay I'm
1047
00:59:30,010 --> 00:59:30,720
gonna tell you okay
1048
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,220
I'm rolana awesome he's scooted forward
1049
00:59:33,220 --> 00:59:34,630
in the chair and I knew he was gonna
1050
00:59:34,630 --> 00:59:36,730
that point tell me that he did this what
1051
00:59:36,730 --> 00:59:39,460
did you tell him happened then he said
1052
00:59:39,460 --> 00:59:41,410
no knowing threw his hands up weighed
1053
00:59:41,410 --> 00:59:43,570
them around and said no and step back
1054
00:59:43,570 --> 00:59:44,860
and that's all he he didn't say no I
1055
00:59:44,860 --> 00:59:47,440
didn't do it he said no I didn't tell
1056
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:51,310
him nothing that happened I came back
1057
00:59:51,310 --> 00:59:52,600
met with the district attorney's office
1058
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,540
presented the case to them along with a
1059
00:59:55,540 --> 00:59:57,670
warrant I wanted to arrest Melvin just I
1060
00:59:57,670 --> 01:00:00,550
felt there's enough evidence to arrest I
1061
01:00:00,550 --> 01:00:02,830
think there is today Nolan just got away
1062
01:00:02,830 --> 01:00:05,350
with murder they can prove it now the
1063
01:00:05,350 --> 01:00:08,230
case is open they can prove it I called
1064
01:00:08,230 --> 01:00:10,300
the niece and told her I was coming back
1065
01:00:10,300 --> 01:00:12,760
up there and she said that he had had a
1066
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,470
stroke because he's in a nursing home
1067
01:00:14,470 --> 01:00:16,840
California would have to extradite him
1068
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,210
back and pay the cost of his nursing
1069
01:00:19,210 --> 01:00:21,820
home then we'll do that I was gonna see
1070
01:00:21,820 --> 01:00:24,430
from my own my myself what his condition
1071
01:00:24,430 --> 01:00:28,720
was and I was stopped from doing that by
1072
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,300
a neurosurgeon who was treating him and
1073
01:00:31,300 --> 01:00:34,390
said that he wasn't gonna allow the
1074
01:00:34,390 --> 01:00:36,790
police to interview him so at this point
1075
01:00:36,790 --> 01:00:38,590
that can be shown that he is in fact
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coherent
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will he be arrested to district
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attorney's office it have the final
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say-so and if I had anything to say
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about it I would say that they should
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issue a warrant for his arrest file
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murder charges it show warrant and bring
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him back to California to stand trial on
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01:00:53,610 --> 01:00:57,970
murder schemes we couldn't do which I
1085
01:00:57,970 --> 01:01:00,070
wish we would have give me an example of
1086
01:01:00,070 --> 01:01:02,200
one of those schemes melvin gus killed
1087
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:03,340
that nurse is sure as I'm sitting here
1088
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right now not a doubt in my mind when it
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came around the door just make sure we
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had just the right enough weight to just
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knock him in the head justice needs to
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01:01:11,950 --> 01:01:16,060
be served shoot him I think that after
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01:01:16,060 --> 01:01:18,100
talking to all the different kids that
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01:01:18,100 --> 01:01:20,160
were were subject to Melvin just
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01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,510
mistreatment that I think that would
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01:01:22,510 --> 01:01:25,290
help them tie him up and torture him
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01:01:25,290 --> 01:01:28,060
because of the pain and anguish that we
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01:01:28,060 --> 01:01:30,520
felt and I've talked to every I mean
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01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,830
I've talked to I can't remember all five
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01:01:32,830 --> 01:01:34,840
six seven kids in this whole thing and
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01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,800
saw what this has done to them and part
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01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:40,170
of it I think that will may help them
1103
01:01:40,170 --> 01:01:42,040
cut his throat
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01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:45,570
I wish you could die
1105
01:01:45,570 --> 01:01:49,510
tyranny of more than poison him with
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01:01:49,510 --> 01:01:51,910
some rat poison and it's coffee because
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01:01:51,910 --> 01:01:54,460
he always made us make his coffee and
1108
01:01:54,460 --> 01:02:01,660
should be realize are you afraid to tell
1109
01:02:01,660 --> 01:02:02,350
me the truth
1110
01:02:02,350 --> 01:02:06,150
no I ain't afraid to tell you the truth
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01:02:06,150 --> 01:02:08,620
if you're afraid to learn the goddamn
1112
01:02:08,620 --> 01:02:10,600
truth I'd love to learn the truth now
1113
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,360
and let's go back to her car let's go
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01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:18,460
back to the car [ __ ] now he was
1115
01:02:18,460 --> 01:02:20,350
pretty brave calling me a [ __ ]
1116
01:02:20,350 --> 01:02:21,880
I just wanted to push him off the
1117
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,910
boardwalk and into the Puget Sound but
1118
01:02:24,910 --> 01:02:26,710
instead I pushed him back to the car
1119
01:02:26,710 --> 01:02:27,970
because there were others who were
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01:02:27,970 --> 01:02:30,590
already on their way to see him
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01:02:30,590 --> 01:02:34,239
[Music]
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01:02:34,239 --> 01:02:37,279
you know how that village it you get all
1123
01:02:37,279 --> 01:02:40,039
this together and go through these
1124
01:02:40,039 --> 01:02:44,359
problems mapping no you're not is no
1125
01:02:44,359 --> 01:02:45,139
she's not
1126
01:02:45,139 --> 01:02:47,359
we're all understand you know guilty all
1127
01:02:47,359 --> 01:02:49,639
happiest point oh happy because I'm here
1128
01:02:49,639 --> 01:02:52,309
and everything is you know is peaceful
1129
01:02:52,309 --> 01:02:55,369
and you're yelling in my ear he got away
1130
01:02:55,369 --> 01:03:00,559
with and that burns me so much that the
1131
01:03:00,559 --> 01:03:04,759
truth that ends up coming back and you
1132
01:03:04,759 --> 01:03:07,489
get hurt worse because there was no
1133
01:03:07,489 --> 01:03:25,249
punishment and each time that I
1134
01:03:25,249 --> 01:03:30,469
mentioned it to somebody they said I was
1135
01:03:30,469 --> 01:03:34,699
crazy his last attempt was only two
1136
01:03:34,699 --> 01:03:39,289
years ago on pamby she told me about it
1137
01:03:39,289 --> 01:03:41,329
herself my mom stopped attempting
1138
01:03:41,329 --> 01:03:44,179
suicide a few years ago I stopped
1139
01:03:44,179 --> 01:03:44,779
dancing
1140
01:03:44,779 --> 01:03:48,349
Denise stopped going to AAA and the
1141
01:03:48,349 --> 01:03:52,630
girls stopped by to pay somebody a visit
1142
01:04:07,359 --> 01:04:11,750
now it's my daddy hi Daddy
1143
01:04:11,750 --> 01:04:16,090
hello sweetheart he say he's gonna eat
1144
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:39,109
been doing taken girls around you fast
1145
01:04:39,109 --> 01:04:39,619
huh
1146
01:04:39,619 --> 01:04:43,220
yeah yeah yeah
1147
01:04:43,220 --> 01:04:46,280
dang it I don't believe I was ever
1148
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:48,140
penetrated by him for the simple reason
1149
01:04:48,140 --> 01:04:51,920
that when I was 15 and I was engaged I
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01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:53,960
finally gave my virginity away and I
1151
01:04:53,960 --> 01:05:00,080
bled after sex unlike my little sister
1152
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:03,230
who don't ever recall bleeding after
1153
01:05:03,230 --> 01:05:05,900
shed that is that what it would have
1154
01:05:05,900 --> 01:05:07,910
taken for you to consider you were
1155
01:05:07,910 --> 01:05:09,560
molested as for him due to penetrated
1156
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:09,890
you
1157
01:05:09,890 --> 01:05:13,340
oh no no no no fumble ism it's all
1158
01:05:13,340 --> 01:05:15,530
molestation I kept telling you I was on
1159
01:05:15,530 --> 01:05:22,280
my way though yeah yeah you did yes yes
1160
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:24,820
I did
1161
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,980
and now I just want to give you a big
1162
01:05:28,980 --> 01:05:36,030
old hug and a kiss hi like me now I love
1163
01:05:36,030 --> 01:05:37,020
you now
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01:05:37,020 --> 01:05:40,099
[Music]
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01:05:44,650 --> 01:05:48,180
now I guess all the way
1166
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:54,300
when nobody stopping
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01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,830
[Music]
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01:06:01,830 --> 01:06:06,520
no braces no crutches don't nothin
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01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:20,200
I have to see you that way babe tried to
1170
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:22,980
see you up and about
1171
01:06:29,460 --> 01:06:33,750
says you got a room by yourself I don't
1172
01:06:33,750 --> 01:06:37,270
think I would be when is the last time
1173
01:06:37,270 --> 01:06:39,070
Melvin just attempted to in the last
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01:06:39,070 --> 01:06:42,160
year a couple years ago he told me he
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01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,100
was gonna take me out for my birthday
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01:06:44,100 --> 01:06:47,380
and it ended out that he took me out to
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01:06:47,380 --> 01:06:50,590
the woods he knew I couldn't run I had
1178
01:06:50,590 --> 01:06:52,630
one leg that was fused and one leg that
1179
01:06:52,630 --> 01:06:55,210
was in a brace and he told me to keep it
1180
01:06:55,210 --> 01:06:59,380
a secret but he did pay me he did pay
1181
01:06:59,380 --> 01:07:02,440
yeah he paid me a dollar because it went
1182
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:12,730
in all the way but it did her can't
1183
01:07:12,730 --> 01:07:16,090
believe I lower myself so much I put
1184
01:07:16,090 --> 01:07:18,310
myself through so much [ __ ] just like in
1185
01:07:18,310 --> 01:07:27,579
the flesh life is just not like that
1186
01:07:27,579 --> 01:07:31,029
to put back on a shelf to forget my ass
1187
01:07:31,029 --> 01:07:35,469
you can only forget so long till
1188
01:07:35,469 --> 01:07:37,509
somebody brings it up or bottle breaks
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01:07:37,509 --> 01:07:39,339
and then you have to complete this [ __ ]
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01:07:39,339 --> 01:07:43,049
up [ __ ]
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01:07:45,050 --> 01:07:51,209
[Music]
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01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,960
and I want to hurt myself because I
1193
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:58,730
think if I don't have a release then
1194
01:07:58,730 --> 01:08:01,220
that just keeps it it feels like this
1195
01:08:01,220 --> 01:08:03,590
big bomb inside of me that just wants to
1196
01:08:03,590 --> 01:08:06,280
explode
1197
01:08:13,940 --> 01:08:19,250
I'm ready to go he just goes on as
1198
01:08:19,250 --> 01:08:20,630
though nothing ever happened
1199
01:08:20,630 --> 01:08:23,839
Graham and venes say oh that's just
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01:08:23,839 --> 01:08:26,509
melvin but i'll never let him forget
1201
01:08:26,509 --> 01:08:29,540
what he did to my mom or to the rest of
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01:08:29,540 --> 01:08:33,229
the family so why did you molest the
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01:08:33,229 --> 01:08:35,810
children i didn't molest two goddamn
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01:08:35,810 --> 01:08:38,230
kids
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01:08:38,660 --> 01:08:40,520
if you don't get out that sometimes you
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01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:45,020
can know it you pretty quick
1207
01:08:45,020 --> 01:08:50,629
[Music]
1208
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:54,660
I never did get off that [ __ ] subject
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01:08:54,660 --> 01:08:57,819
but I did keep my promise
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01:08:57,819 --> 01:09:04,658
[Music]
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01:09:04,658 --> 01:09:07,189
although he somehow managed to escape a
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01:09:07,189 --> 01:09:09,679
life in prison a few months after our
1213
01:09:09,679 --> 01:09:14,589
last conversation Melvin just died
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01:09:16,109 --> 01:09:17,229
[Music]
1215
01:09:17,229 --> 01:09:19,560
I want to greet all of you here today
1216
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,509
and let you know we appreciate you being
1217
01:09:22,509 --> 01:09:25,960
here and we've come to honor the memory
1218
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:31,299
of Melvin just colossians 3:22 on obey
1219
01:09:31,299 --> 01:09:32,920
your parents and everything for this
1220
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:34,810
pleases the Lord
1221
01:09:34,810 --> 01:09:38,979
it also pleases your parents and then
1222
01:09:38,979 --> 01:09:40,299
we'll turn around and please you again
1223
01:09:40,299 --> 01:09:42,729
because they'll treat you nice you'll do
1224
01:09:42,729 --> 01:09:44,080
about anything for him
1225
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:46,479
Melvin's first wife Faye which is she
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01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:48,729
could be here any second and present
1227
01:09:48,729 --> 01:09:52,238
wife Venise who is here his three
1228
01:09:52,238 --> 01:09:59,220
natural daughters June Jerry and Jenice
1229
01:09:59,220 --> 01:10:07,720
also his stepdaughters Bobby Denise Pam
1230
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:11,470
B and Anne and some of his grandkids
1231
01:10:11,470 --> 01:10:16,650
among them is Ron Clarissa and Frankie
1232
01:10:16,650 --> 01:10:19,510
God created man in his own image in the
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01:10:19,510 --> 01:10:22,300
image of God he created him male and
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01:10:22,300 --> 01:10:26,200
female he created them Melvin was a
1235
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:27,670
terrific mechanic
1236
01:10:27,670 --> 01:10:30,070
he loved his cars he loved to read the
1237
01:10:30,070 --> 01:10:33,730
Bible and read his Bible cover-to-cover
1238
01:10:33,730 --> 01:10:37,090
several times not Jane so DP how hot
1239
01:10:37,090 --> 01:10:39,760
this is mouth and I love him very dearly
1240
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,220
he's from my heart he treated me really
1241
01:10:42,220 --> 01:10:45,280
bad and he treated me sorrow and he
1242
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:48,190
treated me with respect and he's my man
1243
01:10:48,190 --> 01:10:52,239
and I understand that he's gone and I'm
1244
01:10:52,239 --> 01:10:57,670
glad because he's a one of a guy I don't
1245
01:10:57,670 --> 01:11:00,040
care what you say oh wait anybody else
1246
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:02,980
says but it comes from my heart girl and
1247
01:11:02,980 --> 01:11:06,180
this or that I'm sorry yes what's going
1248
01:11:06,180 --> 01:11:11,410
on who was it that came up that was
1249
01:11:11,410 --> 01:11:14,620
Bobby I'm Jerry I don't know what you
1250
01:11:14,620 --> 01:11:17,170
know about him nor anybody else think he
1251
01:11:17,170 --> 01:11:18,520
was a very
1252
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:22,210
and ugly person to me because he's a
1253
01:11:22,210 --> 01:11:25,150
child molester and a murderer but he was
1254
01:11:25,150 --> 01:11:27,160
cool when he built beach buggies and let
1255
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:31,360
us have our fun with the down throw
1256
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,250
everybody would never want to sit on his
1257
01:11:33,250 --> 01:11:36,700
lap I'm glad I'm actually glad he can't
1258
01:11:36,700 --> 01:11:39,430
hurt nobody else yeah thank you Jeff hey
1259
01:11:39,430 --> 01:12:01,480
Dad they're all [ __ ] okay give us
1260
01:12:01,480 --> 01:12:06,520
some good memories also June the way
1261
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,740
they're acting they obviously had too
1262
01:12:08,740 --> 01:12:10,690
much that ball I think I can throw
1263
01:12:10,690 --> 01:12:11,710
myself okay
1264
01:12:11,710 --> 01:12:15,280
my dad was an awesome man it was an
1265
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:17,290
awesome man he had his pelvis that's
1266
01:12:17,290 --> 01:12:19,510
everybody sure everybody has their
1267
01:12:19,510 --> 01:12:21,040
faults nobody's perfect they weren't
1268
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:22,780
meant to be perfect Jesus died on the
1269
01:12:22,780 --> 01:12:25,900
cross for our sins thank you Lord for
1270
01:12:25,900 --> 01:12:29,710
Melvin our friend of mechanic we commit
1271
01:12:29,710 --> 01:12:30,820
to dust to dust
1272
01:12:30,820 --> 01:12:33,070
we pray this memory will always linger
1273
01:12:33,070 --> 01:12:35,320
with us we thank you for his memory
1274
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:35,980
today
1275
01:12:35,980 --> 01:12:39,150
Jame Betty housewife throw dirt on it
1276
01:12:39,150 --> 01:12:43,510
we're just very ladies you'll have to
1277
01:12:43,510 --> 01:12:47,140
behave please at least I didn't say hey
1278
01:12:47,140 --> 01:12:52,590
I had a glass to get permit no
1279
01:12:52,590 --> 01:12:55,210
permission to
1280
01:12:55,210 --> 01:12:57,640
come up and see about having sex do
1281
01:12:57,640 --> 01:12:58,930
something with him so I can have some
1282
01:12:58,930 --> 01:12:59,800
tampons
1283
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:03,489
you don't say that that was part of my
1284
01:13:03,489 --> 01:13:07,239
[ __ ] life with him you know you had
1285
01:13:07,239 --> 01:13:10,210
different relationship friends I think
1286
01:13:10,210 --> 01:13:11,500
what they should have done for my dad
1287
01:13:11,500 --> 01:13:15,550
and everybody like is take in case tick
1288
01:13:15,550 --> 01:13:17,980
off and soup Butch's forehead cuz it
1289
01:13:17,980 --> 01:13:21,420
nothing dick hits I can't believe I do
1290
01:13:21,420 --> 01:13:45,160
Doug my dad you crave will someone come
1291
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,380
in kind of controlling what's happening
1292
01:13:47,380 --> 01:13:49,590
here
1293
01:13:55,260 --> 01:13:58,000
June can I have that bottle I think it's
1294
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:04,480
a pretty nice one right now how about of
1295
01:14:04,480 --> 01:14:06,250
wish that it stopped raining oh no
1296
01:14:06,250 --> 01:14:07,750
because you know what the sun shining
1297
01:14:07,750 --> 01:14:09,190
and if you watch right over here there
1298
01:14:09,190 --> 01:14:11,260
should be a rainbow coming right up zip
1299
01:14:11,260 --> 01:14:13,719
see it I'm telling you look it's right
1300
01:14:13,719 --> 01:14:18,130
there I see it you bet you know right
1301
01:14:18,130 --> 01:14:20,320
and that's God's promise that the earth
1302
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:22,750
will never be flooded again it's in the
1303
01:14:22,750 --> 01:14:26,380
Bible in Jesus name and everybody said a
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01:14:26,380 --> 01:14:29,010
man a man
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01:14:29,559 --> 01:14:31,619
you
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