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Where's the cat?
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Where is it?
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Baby...
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I waved to him!
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It's red!
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I fucking could have made it through there.
What the fuck?
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That's stupid!
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No, because... look, Chris...
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There is people in the middle,
you will put great traffic...
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I would have been on right there.
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What's the problem with you?
The law is the law.
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That's a judgment call, it wasn't red.
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You missed a piece...
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{\an8} What's up, man?
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{\an8} I'm selling the box : 30 €.
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{\an8} Yeah, but I play electric guitar.
I don't play acoustic.
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{\an8} I'd put drugs in that thing.
I'd put drugs in there.
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{\an8} "Chris Holmes on Radio Beat!"
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We've been talking about him during the last hour,
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finally, guitarist Chris Holmes is in our studio
for the first time ever!
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Chris, for many people,
you are an american rock star who leads a wild life.
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What do you think of the way people see you?
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I don't really care.
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They’re not the ones paying my bills.
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A rock star is somebody like Gene Simmons,
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who wants to be...
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They walk in the room and:
"I'm a rock star."
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Me, it's a way of life or whatever.
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It's a personality, you know.
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I don't even have any memorabilia from W.A.S.P.
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Nothing.
- Nothing left?
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The biggest part of the sound was Chris' guitar,
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and just his attitude,
the way he played, man.
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He was like angry:
"Motherfucker...!"
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He was angry and that was all
part of the fuckin' attitude, man.
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Chris is a huge part of the W.A.S.P. sound for sure.
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His guitar tone and his parts are huge part of it.
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The most metal guy in that band, for sure.
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That guy was not messing around,
he was living it.
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I recognize him as an icon in music.
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When I first got into heavy-metal,
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{\an8} W.A.S.P. and especially Chris Holmes,
was one of the first inspirational figureheads.
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There was Ozzy,
this was beyond KISS.
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I remember watching those pictures in the magazines,
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looking at Chris Holmes with the black eyeliner
and the big blond hair...
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"That's a cool guy, I wanna be him."
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Chris was like the US version of Lemmy,
back in the early 80s.
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He was Lemmy,
but just more crazy, psycho,
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uncontrollable...
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That was rock n' roll.
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That's what the L.A. scene really needed,
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to take it out of that glam-rock stigma
that was going on in L.A.
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The first two W.A.S.P. records
are still two of my favorite records.
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{\an8} I remember listening to that, going:
"I gotta move to L.A.,
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'cause that's where that's happening."
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Those really inspired me to get my ass out there.
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My wife and I moved from L.A. to Europe,
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so we came to visit her parents,
they live in Cannes.
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"No, baby, I see you..."
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People think that W.A.S.P. was successful or whatever...
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Yeah, we sold a lot of records
and we were successful,
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but I didn't understand how the money worked and all that stuff,
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so all the contracts, I guess I signed away...
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I didn't even sign away my publishing,
I never got any out of it.
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Freddie !
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Don't kiss me or I'll fuckin' punch you.
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{\an8} My name is Frédéric Bujoli,
I've been a lawyer for 15 years.
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{\an8} I'm a huge heavy-metal and hard-rock fan.
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{\an8} W.A.S.P. was of course
one of the big 80s bands we listened to.
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{\an8} Chris is now a singer
and looking towards the future,
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{\an8} but we need to restore his rights from his past.
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{\an8} Many things have not been settled since 1984.
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"Come over here,
come here Ug."
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Here in France,
a lot of people get mad that I don't speak French,
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but I don't sing in French.
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I'd learn English language first, before I learn French,
but I still don't even know that.
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It's probably better that I don't understand what they say anyway.
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It's probably better that I don't understand it.
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Other than talking,
there are other languages like this.
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That.
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Yo!
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This guy saw me play in L.A. in 1991.
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1991.
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A long time ago.
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I saw this fuckin' guy on stage.
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You can't break it.
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Hair dryer... I get my hair dry.
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Most of the people
I've surrounded myself with in Hollywood,
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they just care about themselves:
"What can you do for me?"
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Most of all other girls in my life,
they really didn't give a crap about my career,
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or me playing music, or anything like that.
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Sarah kinda cared about what I did musically.
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{\an8} We spent a whole evening talking.
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{\an8} He told me about his life,
I told him about mine.
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{\an8} It was natural and we never left each other.
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{\an8} Baby, there are people around,
you can't do that now.
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{\an8} This was my previous wife, before.
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{\an8} She gives me a hug in the front.
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We've got ten minutes before
my first gig I ever sang in my life.
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It's kind of a new chapter for me.
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It's great now because
I don't have to put up with the L.S.D.
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It's called Lead Singer Disease.
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I've put up with that all my life.
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I'm not saying that all lead singers are assholes.
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A lot of them are.
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The lead singer I worked with
for years was really hard to work with.
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That makes the other guys really nice,
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even if they're not, right?
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I like the part that makes people happy,
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makes me put some smile on their face.
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People bring their own records and want them signed.
You've gotta do that.
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They get to take a picture with somebody
they probably never thought they would be able to.
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You see a lot of people smile and say thanks,
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I like that.
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I don't like making people sad.
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- Good night!
- Thank you!
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I am the one and only Blackie Lawless,
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and this is Chris Holmes:
speak for them, Chris!
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Sometimes he has to... stop!
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W.A.S.P. were likes of new wave of shock band.
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They were really good as well.
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They took "God of Thunder" by KISS
and they built on that.
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How could you not love the theatrics?
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First time I heard the song "Fuck Like a Beast",
I was just on the floor laughing.
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{\an8} I was reading the only magazine for popular music in Sweden,
growing up,
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{\an8} and W.A.S.P. had just come out
with their first album,
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it was like an uproar in Sweden,
everybody was outraged about this new music.
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When you paid for your ticket to go watch W.A.S.P.,
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your shirt was worn-out
when you walked out there,
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'cause you just got entertained for an hour and a half, in a big way.
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The first show they did was like on a Tuesday night.
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At that time, there was no Internet,
no cellphones or big clunky things.
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They had a couple hundred people
from word of mouth.
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That's when they tortured the girl on the rack.
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The story goes that the next Saturday,
they kicked the headliner off,
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they put W.A.S.P. on it
and 3.000 people came down.
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The fire marshalls wanted to shut them down.
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Blackie's idea was costumes that have weaponry.
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He had sawblades, bolts, lag bolts,
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and that stupid saw between his legs,
I knew that was gonna be trouble.
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I heard later he blew himself up one time.
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It was scary because who the hell is eating raw meat on stage,
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and then throwing it at the crowd,
and the crowd loving it?
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It was insane.
I never wanted to be in the front row,
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I'd stay in the back because I didn't want to get hit by some raw meat.
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{\an8} It was very scary,
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{\an8} to see these huge men come out on stage,
fire everywhere, smoke going off...
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Blackie actually came up
with the idea for the fire sign,
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but he wanted to do it round,
with the name in the middle.
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I said "no, just frame the name".
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Frame the name in big letters,
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we'll get fire resistant paint,
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'cause the letters were just wood,
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double-coat so nothing will burn,
put bolts in it,
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scratch'em up a lot, make them look nasty,
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and then blow this flame up around
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with two 5-gallon tanks of propane,
that's one of them right back there.
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One of the original propane tanks.
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And just doing crazy shit...
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Chris was wild.
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He is a showman.
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He could be just tired,
not in a good mood or bummed out,
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soon as the lights hit, he was an animal.
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I always relied on, first of all the music
that comes out of my hands,
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through the guitar,
trough the speaker cabinets,
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off the stage.
That's what people are gonna get.
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The theatrics... I don't know...
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I look at like like people that have to do it,
they're not good enough to be themselves.
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They're not good enough to be on stage
and people buying a ticket to watch it.
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Myself is.
I am.
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He could do without the costumes,
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which is why he cut the butt off of his original costume.
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He said "If I'm gonna do this,
I'm gonna do it my way."
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I saw the film Jimi Hendrix and...
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That's my dog.
He's Ug.
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I saw the film Jimi Hendrix and...
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The way he played, jumping around...
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I dug it man, that's all I wanted to do.
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I never thought of myself:
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"Wow, ok, I'll create this guy, Chris Holmes."
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Gotta be always filming!
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You gotta hang that thing around your neck.
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That's it, right?
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Move that piece of shit!
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- Chris!
- What?
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The sound is ok,
but when you play, it's too loud.
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It's heavy metal, you can't ask Chris Holmes
to play down like he plays disco!
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Hey, who fucked up on the soundcheck?
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These guys are waiting for us.
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Why do you look at me when you do that?
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Sarah, I'm not saying you did.
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We play at 10?
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{\an8} My amp's fucked!
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How you doin'?
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What's up?
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I have to thank for one thing my wife Sarah,
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if it wasn't for her, I wouldn't be here at all.
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I'll be at home in my closet, drinking,
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smoking dope, doing nothing...
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Thank you very much!
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First time that I listen to Mean Man.
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Really good music for me.
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Nice to meet you.
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Czech Republic, Prague!
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You deserve a kiss!
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Oh thank you!
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My husband thinks
that he's the best guitar player ever.
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Rock n' roll!
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God, I wished my fuckin' amp worked, man.
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We're going to change that when we go back, baby.
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That was a bummer.
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You all made a great show.
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Baby, stop, stop, stop!
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Chris, people are sleeping!
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I know, that's why I do it.
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Do you like more to record or playing live?
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I like playing live.
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If I had a choice it would be playing live.
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How does it feel
when your own wife is managing you?
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I don't trust anybody else.
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I never got a penny out of W.A.S.P.
224
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I've been "famous" but...
225
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All my publishing money
goes right into somebody's pocket.
226
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I trusted somebody who I shouldn't have trusted.
227
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My name's on the record as a songwriter,
228
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but I don't get the money for it.
229
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I saw some fans last night
singing the songs that I wrote.
230
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That made me happy.
231
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How do you rest after concerts?
232
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Rest?
233
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Usually I lay parallel...
234
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I'd like to play on top of Mount Everest.
235
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You think you can do it?
236
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I don't know,
I always had a dream to walk there,
237
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take acoustic guitar,
238
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play "Yankee Doodle Dandy" or something...
239
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"Kumbaya"...
240
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Getting there and play "Fuck Like a Beast"...
241
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That's my beard.
242
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This is what happens when you don't shave.
243
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I miss the part of when I traveled on the bus,
244
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and I didn't have to worry about my instruments,
or guitars, or anything.
245
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I'd walk in the soundcheck, play a few notes,
246
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give the roadies the guitar, then come out and play.
Just had to take care of myself.
247
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Since I'm starting out again,
I've got to worry about my stuff.
248
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It's a little harder,
but I like to play, you know.
249
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Is that everything?
250
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A lot of people from the 80s
are not playing anymore.
251
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One good think, I can still walk,
I'm kind of in good health, I guess.
252
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Can I just look at the engine?
253
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I wanna see the engine.
I'm from America.
254
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I'm from America,
I'm just kind of curious.
255
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- What's this?
- The air...
256
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Hot and cold.
257
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It's got a turbocharger on it.
258
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- What kind of car is that?
- Germany car.
259
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- What year?
- Trabant 1968.
260
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It's cool. Thanks for showing me that.
261
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Big motorcycle.
262
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Thanks for showing me that, I appreciate it.
263
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I'd never seen a car like that in my life.
264
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Man, a two-stroke!
265
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Chris Holmes was a character.
266
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{\an8} Everybody in L.A. that was into hard-rock and metal
knew of Chris Holmes.
267
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He was really an icon
in the L.A. hard-rock and metal scene.
268
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I remember actually the photo shoot,
269
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when Chris was sitting on that chopper frame.
270
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He had a barrel, a beer and a cigar.
We were wasted that day.
271
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That was at Neil Zlozower's studio in Hollywood.
272
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Me and Chris were outside
with the homeless street people, drinking and shit.
273
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Blackie was pissed off inside
because we were out there getting drunk
274
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outside in Hollywood...
That's a true story.
275
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Get the fuck out.
276
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Excuse me man, these guys make me crazy.
277
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We got a record deal within a year.
278
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We got one within nine months.
279
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With Rod Smallwood at Capitol Records,
that's how we hit the big time.
280
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I was just happy making money on playing music.
281
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I started off with 125$ a week,
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that was great.
283
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Before that, I wasn't making nothing.
284
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If I would have understood
how the publishing and all that shit worked then,
285
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Blackie and I would have went head to head
and I wouldn't have been in the band that long.
286
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He would have fired me real quick.
287
00:24:54,820 --> 00:24:57,820
Sure, everybody wants to be successful.
288
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I wanted to play hard-rock.
Do what Jimi Hendrix did.
289
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To get to that level,
there's a lot of business crap you've got to take care of.
290
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Everyday photo sessions, this and that...
just for the business...
291
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We signed with Rod Smallwood,
292
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they were like a bank,
so at that point we had all the money we needed
293
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to get the band off the road, you know.
294
00:25:25,140 --> 00:25:27,660
In the beginning,
it was all for one, one for all.
295
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Everybody puttin' in what they did.
296
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After the first record,
Blackie wanted it just to be him.
297
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He didn't want the other guys in the band.
298
00:25:38,540 --> 00:25:40,860
Look at the records:
should I say anymore?
299
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Who's on the cover of the second one?
Who's on the cover of the third one?
300
00:25:45,140 --> 00:25:48,740
He didn't want it to be a band after the first album,
301
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he just wanted it to be
the Blackie Lawless project.
302
00:25:51,220 --> 00:25:53,300
After that I really didn't give a shit about it.
303
00:25:55,100 --> 00:25:58,140
- When you were a little kid, did you want to be a rock star?
- Yes I did.
304
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Definitely.
305
00:25:59,780 --> 00:26:01,940
But she wouldn't let me...
306
00:26:03,060 --> 00:26:07,860
Hello mom, can I take a rock guitar?
She says, well...
307
00:26:07,860 --> 00:26:13,740
No you can't,
'cause you'll turn into those drug infested rockstars.
308
00:26:14,660 --> 00:26:18,780
- Do you consider yourself...
- A piece of crap.
309
00:26:19,380 --> 00:26:20,660
Why ?
310
00:26:20,660 --> 00:26:24,900
Well, because I work the job...
and I'm a piece of crap.
311
00:26:28,660 --> 00:26:30,860
What do you think
you're gonna be doing ten years from now?
312
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I'll probably be dead.
You'll come and see me in my graveyard.
313
00:26:34,140 --> 00:26:41,180
Do you think this kind of rock n' roll lifestyle is hard on you
and maybe that's why you drink?
314
00:26:41,180 --> 00:26:44,380
I'm a full-blown alcoholic,
315
00:26:44,380 --> 00:26:47,860
and I drink because...
look...
316
00:26:52,260 --> 00:26:57,260
He's gonna be remembered for that
for the rest of his life, at some point.
317
00:26:57,260 --> 00:26:59,380
Somebody will bring it up again.
318
00:26:59,380 --> 00:27:03,300
But that's rock n' roll...!
319
00:27:06,340 --> 00:27:11,860
I think I had the same reaction as everybody.
I mean, it was sad.
320
00:27:11,860 --> 00:27:15,940
I always wondered how much of it was real.
321
00:27:16,780 --> 00:27:20,260
Over the years,
I've had that conversation with him several times:
322
00:27:20,260 --> 00:27:23,020
depending on what his mood is,
he gives me a different answer.
323
00:27:23,020 --> 00:27:25,860
That was vodka, that was real.
324
00:27:25,860 --> 00:27:28,580
That thing about me and Chris, we never...
325
00:27:28,580 --> 00:27:32,900
These guys, they put ice-tea and people think
they're drinking Jack Daniel's on stage...
326
00:27:34,460 --> 00:27:36,380
It was water, for Christ's sake!
327
00:27:36,380 --> 00:27:40,260
Chris is not gonna pour
a whole bottle of vodka over his head.
328
00:27:40,260 --> 00:27:41,780
That's a waste of vodka.
329
00:27:41,780 --> 00:27:45,420
When I did "The Decline",
Blackie was flaming pissed.
330
00:27:46,660 --> 00:27:48,340
He flipped out.
331
00:27:48,340 --> 00:27:52,300
But I had already done it behind his back,
I didn't really care at that point.
332
00:27:52,300 --> 00:27:55,580
Penelope called him and wanted him to do it.
333
00:27:55,580 --> 00:27:59,580
But he wanted budget to do this and that...
334
00:27:59,580 --> 00:28:02,540
She didn't have the budget for it,
so she asked me to do an interview.
335
00:28:02,540 --> 00:28:06,620
To me, it was just a stupid interview...
336
00:28:09,300 --> 00:28:15,900
Chris is a natural rolled out of bed rock star.
337
00:28:15,900 --> 00:28:17,940
Blackie Lawless is Steven Duren
338
00:28:17,940 --> 00:28:21,060
that turns into Blackie Lawless
and then turns back into Steven Duren.
339
00:28:21,060 --> 00:28:23,660
Chris Holmes is Chris Holmes the whole fuckin' time.
340
00:28:24,180 --> 00:28:28,180
The only way I can explain it is:
341
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here is the bus, it goes down the highway,
342
00:28:30,820 --> 00:28:32,660
the bus stops at the show,
343
00:28:32,660 --> 00:28:35,540
Steven Duren gets off the bus,
344
00:28:35,540 --> 00:28:38,340
goes in, puts on Blackie Lawless,
345
00:28:38,340 --> 00:28:41,180
does the Blackie Lawless show,
346
00:28:41,180 --> 00:28:44,180
gets off-stage, takes off Blackie Lawless,
347
00:28:44,180 --> 00:28:47,300
walks out the dressing room:
Steven Duren, then he gets on the bus.
348
00:28:47,300 --> 00:28:51,180
Blackie doesn't love interacting with people,
349
00:28:51,180 --> 00:28:53,780
that's why he doesn't do the fan thing that much.
350
00:28:53,780 --> 00:28:55,020
Holmes loves people.
351
00:28:55,020 --> 00:28:57,780
There's this whole line of kids.
352
00:29:00,060 --> 00:29:03,060
Chris comes up to the bus.
353
00:29:04,300 --> 00:29:07,780
The kids go "Hey, can we get your autograph?"
He's like "Absolutely!"
354
00:29:07,780 --> 00:29:12,500
He goes on the bus
and Blackie Lawless rips him one, dude...
355
00:29:12,500 --> 00:29:16,020
"Don't ever do that.
Don't ever go for the kids and do that.
356
00:29:16,020 --> 00:29:18,060
You're wasting our time..."
357
00:29:18,060 --> 00:29:20,900
He's like:
"What? They're all fans."
358
00:29:20,900 --> 00:29:22,980
He used to hold Chris back.
359
00:29:22,980 --> 00:29:26,460
On stage you can't hold Chris back.
He's gonna be Chris on stage.
360
00:29:26,460 --> 00:29:29,060
That means jumping, that means spinning,
361
00:29:29,060 --> 00:29:31,940
skipping, everything...!
362
00:29:31,940 --> 00:29:35,060
But in the studio, Blackie would hold him back:
363
00:29:35,060 --> 00:29:40,660
would keep his level down,
wouldn't let him play some of the leads he wanted to play...
364
00:29:40,660 --> 00:29:42,460
He was always telling him what to do.
365
00:29:42,460 --> 00:29:43,620
My feeling was always like:
366
00:29:43,620 --> 00:29:47,380
"You hired this guy to play in your band
because of a certain sound,
367
00:29:47,380 --> 00:29:50,780
and you don't want him to have that certain sound?"
That's ridiculous.
368
00:29:56,820 --> 00:29:59,100
Here we are in beautiful Paris.
369
00:29:59,100 --> 00:30:02,940
As you see, this is a house of worship up here.
370
00:30:02,940 --> 00:30:06,260
It's called Pierre-Versailles, whatever...
371
00:30:06,260 --> 00:30:07,940
And if you look over here,
372
00:30:07,940 --> 00:30:11,380
there's the most famous icon in the world, right here.
373
00:30:11,380 --> 00:30:13,340
Some guy named Eiffel built it.
374
00:30:13,340 --> 00:30:18,660
I don't know if that's his first name or his last name,
but it's a big famous icon.
375
00:30:24,980 --> 00:30:27,180
You can't touch, baby.
376
00:30:28,220 --> 00:30:29,820
Superman!
377
00:30:35,820 --> 00:30:38,540
An angel...
378
00:30:44,420 --> 00:30:46,060
That painting ain't shit.
379
00:30:46,060 --> 00:30:47,860
Cupcake!
380
00:30:57,700 --> 00:30:58,940
Cupcake!
381
00:30:58,940 --> 00:31:00,620
I love you!
382
00:31:00,620 --> 00:31:02,540
We're gonna get high!
383
00:31:03,260 --> 00:31:05,660
Wow, that's a view.
384
00:31:26,460 --> 00:31:28,540
{\an8} Nice to meet you.
385
00:31:28,540 --> 00:31:31,260
- My lady...
- Thank you.
386
00:31:31,260 --> 00:31:34,340
- My name is Pierre.
- What's up Pierre?
387
00:31:34,340 --> 00:31:36,540
I"m very impressed.
388
00:31:37,340 --> 00:31:39,420
What do you feed the cat with?
389
00:31:39,420 --> 00:31:42,580
It's my cat.
His name is Miu.
390
00:31:45,660 --> 00:31:48,420
The cat's huge.
It's the biggest cat I've ever seen!
391
00:31:48,420 --> 00:31:51,740
And these are all the people I have photographed.
392
00:31:51,740 --> 00:31:54,660
Famous French actors...
393
00:31:54,660 --> 00:31:57,940
You know the light?
It's a movie light.
394
00:31:57,940 --> 00:32:01,380
Like the light in the movies in 1930.
395
00:32:01,380 --> 00:32:06,980
You have one, two, three, four, five lights for you.
396
00:32:06,980 --> 00:32:10,340
{\an8} Get ready...
Great!
397
00:32:13,100 --> 00:32:17,340
- This is the gold light...
- That's a reflector light.
398
00:32:17,340 --> 00:32:19,420
Look!
399
00:32:19,420 --> 00:32:21,620
You are the Lord of the Rings.
400
00:32:22,940 --> 00:32:25,540
{\an8} Up! Up!
401
00:32:25,540 --> 00:32:30,180
{\an8} Beautiful.
One, two, three...
402
00:32:32,220 --> 00:32:34,380
{\an8} Very nice, my dear.
Wait!
403
00:32:34,380 --> 00:32:36,900
Yes, yes.
404
00:32:39,220 --> 00:32:40,580
{\an8} Got it!
405
00:32:40,580 --> 00:32:44,060
{\an8} I'm very impressed.
He has a unique presence.
406
00:32:44,060 --> 00:32:46,780
{\an8} He doesn't confide easily.
407
00:32:46,780 --> 00:32:50,340
{\an8} He has a great future ahead.
408
00:32:50,940 --> 00:32:55,260
{\an8} He has a real presence,
it only takes four shots.
409
00:33:31,140 --> 00:33:34,140
I remember meeting each other at the NAMM show.
410
00:33:36,260 --> 00:33:38,500
{\an8} Chris Holmes comes walking.
411
00:33:38,500 --> 00:33:42,660
{\an8} Doesn't matter the size of the room,
the room got really small.
412
00:33:42,660 --> 00:33:45,860
When Chris is in the room,
there's no space left.
413
00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:56,020
One thing about Chris is he got along
with all others musicians and bands.
414
00:33:56,020 --> 00:33:59,460
There was only one one musician and one band,
and that was Blackie Lawless,
415
00:33:59,460 --> 00:34:02,500
that he didn't get along with very well.
Otherwise he gets along with everybody.
416
00:34:02,500 --> 00:34:05,660
{\an8} We all loved Chris
and he was just great to have around.
417
00:34:05,660 --> 00:34:09,060
{\an8} I think he actually hung out with us
a lot more than he hung out with his own band.
418
00:34:09,060 --> 00:34:12,940
In 1985-86, I was doing security for Black Sabbath,
419
00:34:12,940 --> 00:34:19,180
Chris kept showing up at Tony Iommi's door
at 3 or 4 in the morning.
420
00:34:19,180 --> 00:34:23,220
"Come on Tony, let's go party!"
I had to go out, because Tony was my guy.
421
00:34:23,220 --> 00:34:28,060
I finally told Chris: "You have to stop
coming in the room at 3 or 4 in the morning.
422
00:34:28,060 --> 00:34:31,020
You're killing me.
I need to sleep at some point."
423
00:34:31,020 --> 00:34:33,700
"Fuck off! I don't care!"
424
00:34:33,700 --> 00:34:36,300
That's the sound Chris was always after.
425
00:34:36,300 --> 00:34:38,780
He wanted to get Tony Iommi's sound.
426
00:34:38,780 --> 00:34:41,660
Funny thing is, he met Tony Iommi on a tour,
427
00:34:41,660 --> 00:34:45,860
Tony Iommi said "I've been trying to get your sound
for the last ten years."
428
00:34:47,020 --> 00:34:51,060
Basically one of his guitar gods,
to say "I love your sound",
429
00:34:51,060 --> 00:34:52,900
that's pretty unusual.
430
00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:57,420
He's my idol, he's great.
431
00:34:57,940 --> 00:35:01,140
I did lots of chemicals with him,
and drank...
432
00:35:01,140 --> 00:35:04,860
It was great touring with him,
that was 30 years ago...
433
00:35:04,860 --> 00:35:06,500
We were touring with Maiden,
434
00:35:06,500 --> 00:35:10,580
we climbed up in the truss, above the stage,
Maiden was on stage.
435
00:35:10,580 --> 00:35:15,140
We were above Nicko yelling down:
"Fuck you! Nicko you suck, man!"
436
00:35:16,780 --> 00:35:19,900
He's looking up and he's going like this.
437
00:35:19,900 --> 00:35:22,660
Anyway, they were between songs,
438
00:35:22,660 --> 00:35:25,540
and Bruce was in front of the stage
talking to the audience.
439
00:35:25,540 --> 00:35:28,500
Chris took this apple and let it go,
440
00:35:28,500 --> 00:35:31,660
and it hit Nicko in his face.
441
00:35:34,140 --> 00:35:36,140
It's just a funny story,
nobody know what goes on.
442
00:35:36,140 --> 00:35:39,060
He hit him in face.
"I'll kill you motherfucker!"
443
00:35:39,060 --> 00:35:42,540
When it's time to turn on the Chris Holmes button,
444
00:35:42,540 --> 00:35:45,820
then he turns it on and it's overdrive,
it's way over the top.
445
00:35:45,820 --> 00:35:50,380
We were playing in Lisbon in Portugal
and we had a day off.
446
00:35:50,380 --> 00:35:52,180
Everyone knew that W.A.S.P. was in town.
447
00:35:52,180 --> 00:35:56,820
Every bar that me and Chris went to,
we had free drinks, free food...
448
00:35:56,820 --> 00:36:00,540
We wound back at the hotel,
I remember crawling on the grass...
449
00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:30,180
When I first met Chris, he was kind of a shy
surfer-looking guy with long blond hair,
450
00:36:30,180 --> 00:36:34,260
committed to playing guitar,
that's all he cared about.
451
00:36:34,260 --> 00:36:37,860
As you get out into the world
and discover alcohol,
452
00:36:37,860 --> 00:36:42,700
and other things that everybody seemed to be doing
back at that time period,
453
00:36:43,260 --> 00:36:45,460
it's easy to fall into that trap.
454
00:36:45,460 --> 00:36:50,020
I'd just go out to the clubs,
get drunk and piss people off.
455
00:36:50,020 --> 00:36:52,540
I'd play rock star or whatever...
456
00:36:52,540 --> 00:36:56,460
I always thought he'd never make it past 30.
457
00:37:03,780 --> 00:37:06,620
I met Lita Ford at the Cathouse.
458
00:37:06,620 --> 00:37:11,180
She was doing the album
"Close My Eyes Forever".
459
00:37:11,180 --> 00:37:14,780
She was kind of big, I was big at the same time,
we hooked up...
460
00:37:14,780 --> 00:37:18,020
She tried to get me to stop drinking,
but I wouldn't stop drinking.
461
00:37:18,020 --> 00:37:21,500
I wasn't surprised or impressed,
I was happy for him.
462
00:37:21,500 --> 00:37:26,500
I think it was an important part of his life
as far as him maturing as a guitar player.
463
00:37:26,500 --> 00:37:29,220
That was a big time in his life.
464
00:37:29,220 --> 00:37:33,460
That was the first
that he bought a house that he could call his.
465
00:37:33,460 --> 00:37:36,620
I used to see them together:
they got along well, they both drank...
466
00:37:36,620 --> 00:37:38,340
They both had a great time.
467
00:37:38,340 --> 00:37:42,860
{\an8} She was too music, and he was music.
468
00:37:42,860 --> 00:37:49,740
{\an8} You can't deal with one going on tour,
the other one's home, the other goes on tour...
469
00:37:49,740 --> 00:37:52,500
You just can't have a couple.
470
00:37:52,500 --> 00:37:56,460
{\an8} From North America,
with their spectacular heavy sound,
471
00:37:56,460 --> 00:37:58,500
{\an8} here is W.A.S.P.!
472
00:38:22,700 --> 00:38:28,020
It's sad to change band members
so many times in W.A.S.P.
473
00:38:28,020 --> 00:38:30,020
People don't like seeing that.
474
00:38:30,020 --> 00:38:33,420
What made the band eventually killed it.
475
00:38:33,420 --> 00:38:35,540
An ego.
476
00:38:35,540 --> 00:38:37,580
You've ever seen me in a guitar magazine?
477
00:38:37,580 --> 00:38:41,340
I've never been on a guitar magazine in my life,
not one.
478
00:38:41,340 --> 00:38:45,860
Blackie decides who's gonna do interviews:
he would never let me do them,
479
00:38:45,860 --> 00:38:47,460
because I'd get more press.
480
00:38:48,380 --> 00:38:53,580
My personality kept me from doing
most of the interviews.
481
00:39:14,940 --> 00:39:16,500
I knew Chris was angry.
482
00:39:16,500 --> 00:39:21,060
Chris holds it in
and pretty soon Chris is gonna explode.
483
00:39:21,060 --> 00:39:22,500
That's the way he is.
484
00:39:22,500 --> 00:39:26,700
Blackie, I knew,
was gonna do more and more to put him down.
485
00:39:26,700 --> 00:39:29,180
He wanted it to be the Blackie Lawless show.
486
00:39:29,180 --> 00:39:33,300
He kept Chris in the background as much as he could,
487
00:39:33,300 --> 00:39:35,260
with interviews,
488
00:39:35,260 --> 00:39:40,300
with how much he'd allow him to turn up in the studio,
different little things...
489
00:39:40,940 --> 00:39:43,740
He didn't like to share the spotlight.
490
00:39:43,740 --> 00:39:49,540
I left W.A.S.P. in 1991.
491
00:39:49,540 --> 00:39:55,780
I just couldn't take Blackie's bullshit
of just him, him, him and the band.
492
00:39:57,540 --> 00:40:00,860
Some things were lied to me about.
493
00:40:00,860 --> 00:40:06,460
I just didn't want to take it, it got to the point
where I wanted nothing to do with W.A.S.P.
494
00:40:07,220 --> 00:40:09,340
I go with he quit.
495
00:40:09,340 --> 00:40:14,380
He got dragged through the mud for too many years.
He finally went: "I'm done".
496
00:40:14,380 --> 00:40:20,780
When Lita kicked him out, she dropped him off
on my porch with a couple of suitcases.
497
00:40:20,780 --> 00:40:23,620
I opened the door and said
"Here's your spot to sleep",
498
00:40:23,620 --> 00:40:27,580
and we were digging our chains together.
499
00:40:27,580 --> 00:40:31,380
None of us could work, he was an all about no jobs.
500
00:40:31,380 --> 00:40:35,500
We all had to quit our jobs: "How we're gonna live?"
And we did...
501
00:40:53,180 --> 00:40:57,660
I ran into the singer Johnny Severe
through a friend who knew him.
502
00:40:57,660 --> 00:41:00,580
He came up and we decided to do a band.
503
00:41:00,580 --> 00:41:02,340
We found Chris Olson,
504
00:41:02,340 --> 00:41:07,260
and Mike Kortz played bass.
505
00:41:07,260 --> 00:41:10,460
He wanted all the members
to be born and raised in Southern California.
506
00:41:10,460 --> 00:41:12,740
Don't know why.
507
00:41:12,740 --> 00:41:15,940
I guess he thought we all fought the same.
508
00:41:15,940 --> 00:41:19,020
Psycho Squad was an interesting band.
509
00:41:19,020 --> 00:41:24,660
I think the band was founded on the promise
of how much can you drink and still play.
510
00:41:25,540 --> 00:41:27,940
They used to get pretty well lit-up.
511
00:41:38,820 --> 00:41:44,620
It was enjoyable doing music that I wrote.
512
00:41:44,620 --> 00:41:47,740
I could write the whole thing
and not have to worry about somebody
513
00:41:47,740 --> 00:41:51,180
saying "no that's not good".
514
00:41:51,180 --> 00:41:55,380
Somebody else taking all the credits
for what you're doing...
515
00:41:55,380 --> 00:41:59,580
When we put Psycho Squad together,
we got endorsed by everybody.
516
00:41:59,580 --> 00:42:02,060
We got us endorsed by Art to the Bone.
517
00:42:02,060 --> 00:42:06,860
And pretty soon Chris is getting tattooed...
518
00:42:06,860 --> 00:42:11,660
I think he's got flames and skulls on his fingers,
519
00:42:11,660 --> 00:42:16,660
a big skeleton in his back
with a knife shoved in his back:
520
00:42:16,660 --> 00:42:19,060
"Go ahead, everybody else has".
521
00:42:19,060 --> 00:42:21,340
I think I do know what the meaning of that was.
522
00:42:21,340 --> 00:42:23,980
I think it was Blackie, you know.
523
00:42:23,980 --> 00:42:26,300
Johnny was a good guy.
524
00:42:26,860 --> 00:42:28,660
He drank a lot.
525
00:42:28,660 --> 00:42:31,140
He was a great lyricist.
526
00:42:31,140 --> 00:42:33,340
He's the one who opened my eyes...
527
00:42:33,340 --> 00:42:36,780
Before him I never listened to lyrics that much,
528
00:42:36,780 --> 00:42:41,220
even in W.A.S.P. I never really cared
what Blackie talked about.
529
00:42:41,220 --> 00:42:43,860
Psycho Squad, we didn't do no theatrics.
530
00:42:43,860 --> 00:42:46,380
We just went in and kicked you in the teeth.
531
00:42:46,380 --> 00:42:50,460
Our opening song: "Thrash the Place",
'cause that's how we felt.
532
00:42:50,460 --> 00:42:54,860
That time, grunge had just happened.
533
00:42:54,860 --> 00:42:57,700
Nirvana hit it real big.
534
00:42:57,700 --> 00:43:00,940
Nirvana killed the hair bands,
535
00:43:01,260 --> 00:43:03,660
Psycho Squad broke up.
536
00:43:03,660 --> 00:43:08,540
I was just tired, I thought
"You know what, this is bullshit, I'm outta here".
537
00:43:09,380 --> 00:43:12,060
For us to get a record deal was almost obsolete.
538
00:43:12,060 --> 00:43:14,100
We still tried but couldn't.
539
00:43:14,580 --> 00:43:17,740
I think we played together for about a year and a half.
540
00:43:29,340 --> 00:43:31,780
Chris Olson just called me about a month ago,
541
00:43:31,780 --> 00:43:36,140
he said that they found Johnny,
the singer, dead in his house.
542
00:43:36,580 --> 00:43:42,340
His front door was opened,
he was laying in the living-room, frozen...
543
00:43:42,340 --> 00:43:44,420
Like Bon Scott.
544
00:43:44,420 --> 00:43:48,140
He liked to drink,
so he's probably gotten too drunk and passed out.
545
00:43:48,140 --> 00:43:50,860
He left his door opened and froze...
546
00:44:07,180 --> 00:44:09,380
{\an8} One, two, test.
547
00:44:09,380 --> 00:44:10,820
{\an8} Zabou, can you hear me?
548
00:44:42,060 --> 00:44:44,180
Here, you should put it on.
549
00:44:49,340 --> 00:44:50,980
Hey, Sarah!
550
00:44:50,980 --> 00:44:53,260
Sarah, take a picture.
551
00:44:57,140 --> 00:45:00,060
He's gonna play a song with us.
552
00:45:00,460 --> 00:45:01,740
Good.
553
00:45:02,060 --> 00:45:04,180
You can turn your amp on 10!
554
00:46:16,820 --> 00:46:21,580
He built his first guitar
with a friend of his named Gary Presley.
555
00:46:21,580 --> 00:46:23,740
They did it in woodshop class,
556
00:46:23,740 --> 00:46:27,260
built the body,
they did the neck and everything themselves...
557
00:46:27,260 --> 00:46:29,980
The wiring, the electronics,
558
00:46:29,980 --> 00:46:32,300
wiring coils up with more wire,
559
00:46:32,300 --> 00:46:35,140
so you get a higher magnetic field,
you get more distortion.
560
00:46:35,540 --> 00:46:40,620
Chris discovered a lot of things about what you can
do to a guitar to make it sound different.
561
00:46:40,620 --> 00:46:44,540
A Fender Jazzmaster,
that was my first real guitar.
562
00:46:44,540 --> 00:46:48,300
I got it for 80 bucks from a guy down the street.
563
00:46:48,300 --> 00:46:51,780
How did I find it?
Selling drugs...
564
00:46:52,980 --> 00:46:55,180
I was going to school in Pasadena,
565
00:46:55,180 --> 00:46:58,940
my friend John was going to school
in La Cañada with Chris.
566
00:46:58,940 --> 00:47:01,100
Chris had put a band together.
567
00:47:01,860 --> 00:47:03,740
He was looking to get a singer,
568
00:47:03,740 --> 00:47:08,340
and I was ready to say
"I'll be a rockstar, no problem".
569
00:47:08,340 --> 00:47:11,220
I didn't know how to sing.
570
00:47:11,460 --> 00:47:14,660
That was a band called Slave.
571
00:47:14,660 --> 00:47:17,260
I think I was 17 there.
572
00:47:17,260 --> 00:47:20,260
1976 or 1977.
573
00:47:20,780 --> 00:47:23,140
That's a long time ago...
574
00:47:23,140 --> 00:47:25,980
Look how skinny I was.
575
00:47:27,380 --> 00:47:29,980
I was like a toothpick.
576
00:47:30,980 --> 00:47:35,980
The first time I saw him play
was actually at Crescenta Valley High School.
577
00:47:35,980 --> 00:47:40,260
They had something called a quad,
it was an outdoor sort of amphitheatre.
578
00:47:40,260 --> 00:47:42,060
I couldn't take my eyes off of him.
579
00:47:42,060 --> 00:47:45,980
I was thinking:
"This guy's a really good guitar player,
580
00:47:46,740 --> 00:47:49,620
He's got stage presence and he has energy".
581
00:47:49,620 --> 00:47:53,380
{\an8} We were all playing high-schools,
american legion halls,
582
00:47:53,380 --> 00:47:56,580
{\an8} backyard parties, kegger parties...
583
00:47:56,580 --> 00:48:01,820
This was the era when people
started getting one or two kegs of beer,
584
00:48:01,820 --> 00:48:04,060
charging a dollar at the gate,
585
00:48:04,060 --> 00:48:07,420
and getting 300/400 kids
in the backyard with a band.
586
00:48:07,420 --> 00:48:09,660
We'd make our own light system:
587
00:48:09,660 --> 00:48:12,300
we'd make a big box
and throw some colored lights in there,
588
00:48:12,300 --> 00:48:15,740
set them on the amps,
and that's how we'd get our light show.
589
00:48:15,740 --> 00:48:18,500
Here's a great shot of Chris with his Destroyer.
590
00:48:18,500 --> 00:48:20,620
That must have been his first tattoo.
591
00:48:20,620 --> 00:48:23,820
That's Sister, when I met Blackie.
592
00:48:23,820 --> 00:48:26,060
I met the drummer first, then I met Blackie.
593
00:48:26,780 --> 00:48:29,780
I was 20 so it had to be 1977.
594
00:48:29,780 --> 00:48:35,860
I thought: "Oh my gosh, this team of Blackie and Chris
is a really really good one.
595
00:48:35,860 --> 00:48:39,500
These two will probably be a really good duo.
596
00:48:39,500 --> 00:48:41,820
With their height, their craziness,
597
00:48:41,820 --> 00:48:44,260
their wildness, their musicianship,
everything.
598
00:48:44,260 --> 00:48:46,020
There was just someting there.
599
00:48:46,180 --> 00:48:50,940
Blackie was just a slave driver,
I didn't like the way he was.
600
00:48:50,940 --> 00:48:54,140
I couldn't wait to get out of the situation.
601
00:48:54,140 --> 00:48:56,540
when it was ok for me to leave, I left.
602
00:48:56,540 --> 00:49:02,340
After that,
I played with a band called Buster Savage.
603
00:49:02,340 --> 00:49:04,940
I'll never forget:
I saw Buster Savage at the Starwood,
604
00:49:07,500 --> 00:49:12,540
{\an8} Chris Holmes came out,
with a baseball cap on, wearing aviators,
605
00:49:12,540 --> 00:49:14,500
he's got like a dust mask on.
606
00:49:14,500 --> 00:49:16,780
They're playing the first song and he's totally grooving.
607
00:49:16,780 --> 00:49:18,660
Comes up to the solo section,
608
00:49:18,660 --> 00:49:20,500
and then he just whips off the hat,
609
00:49:20,500 --> 00:49:26,140
and all this long-ass hair one length comes out!
610
00:49:27,180 --> 00:49:29,180
He starts rippin' on this solo.
611
00:49:29,180 --> 00:49:34,420
I'm like 15...
"What the fuck is this!"
612
00:49:35,460 --> 00:49:39,300
I got in trouble drinking and driving
and I had to go to jail at Cerwin Vega.
613
00:49:39,300 --> 00:49:41,940
they laid me out so I could collect unemployment jail.
614
00:49:41,940 --> 00:49:47,180
The day I got out, my sister goes:
"This guy named Blackie called.
615
00:49:47,260 --> 00:49:49,940
Here's his number."
616
00:49:50,380 --> 00:49:53,380
I didn't talk to Blackie for years.
617
00:49:53,380 --> 00:49:58,140
I called him, he said he needed to talk to me.
He had the idea of W.A.S.P.
618
00:49:58,140 --> 00:50:00,260
That was about 1981.
619
00:50:01,860 --> 00:50:04,540
I kind of didn't want to play with the guy then,
620
00:50:04,860 --> 00:50:07,620
but he promised a record deal.
621
00:50:07,620 --> 00:50:11,060
I said "Yeah I'll play with him for a year",
622
00:50:11,060 --> 00:50:13,100
and we got a deal.
623
00:50:22,100 --> 00:50:24,420
Here we are in Stockholm.
624
00:50:24,420 --> 00:50:25,980
That's me.
625
00:50:37,140 --> 00:50:39,740
Sweden!
626
00:50:54,140 --> 00:50:59,940
French guy, right?
French coffee...
627
00:51:00,460 --> 00:51:04,060
Chris, American.
American cup.
628
00:51:39,460 --> 00:51:43,980
Welcome back to Headbangers' Ball,
it's our Valentine's Day Massacre,
629
00:51:43,980 --> 00:51:47,860
it's actually gonna turn
into a bloody Valentine right now,
630
00:51:47,860 --> 00:51:51,300
'cause I gotta say to you: "Kill Fuck Die".
631
00:51:51,300 --> 00:51:54,380
I'm not being rude:
that is the title of the new W.A.S.P. album,
632
00:51:54,380 --> 00:51:56,380
out on the 24th March.
633
00:51:56,380 --> 00:52:00,540
As you can see, Blackie and Chris are joining me
here at Rock City in Nottingham.
634
00:52:00,540 --> 00:52:04,580
May I say that you look absolutely fantastic,
it's great to have you back on the show.
635
00:52:04,580 --> 00:52:09,420
So welcome, just to start off,
you've been playing some shows in Europe,
636
00:52:09,420 --> 00:52:11,820
How have things been going?
637
00:52:11,820 --> 00:52:16,740
We're doing a seven show pep rally,
effectively, it's what it boils down to.
638
00:52:16,740 --> 00:52:19,660
Because as you mention,
the album's out on March 24,
639
00:52:19,660 --> 00:52:24,460
and Chris and I have not played together
in public for 7 years.
640
00:52:24,460 --> 00:52:27,020
We decided to come and give everybody a teaser
641
00:52:27,020 --> 00:52:29,060
before we do the real tour in the next couple of months.
642
00:52:29,060 --> 00:52:31,220
You're certainly creating a buzz,
643
00:52:31,220 --> 00:52:35,260
everybody is talking about the W.A.S.P. show
which I guess is exactly what you want.
644
00:52:36,020 --> 00:52:39,900
I've created a buzz all the time.
645
00:52:39,900 --> 00:52:43,020
I've lived in Hollywood,
646
00:52:43,020 --> 00:52:48,260
got stuck in the Hollywood drug-grunge scene
just living there...
647
00:52:49,100 --> 00:52:52,620
Then I had a chance to go to Wyoming for a while.
648
00:52:52,620 --> 00:52:56,060
My sister's ranch, I went up there.
649
00:52:56,060 --> 00:53:00,940
Russell Wallace called me and said'
"Hey Chris, Blackie wants to talk to you."
650
00:53:01,580 --> 00:53:05,300
That's the last thing I'd ever thought I was gonna hear about.
651
00:53:05,300 --> 00:53:07,540
He gave me his number, I called him up.
652
00:53:07,540 --> 00:53:10,300
I go: "Yeah, what's the deal?"
653
00:53:10,300 --> 00:53:13,380
He goes:
"I want to know if you wanna go on tour again."
654
00:53:13,380 --> 00:53:16,060
I go: "That was the last thing on my mind.
655
00:53:16,060 --> 00:53:18,940
If you wanna know an answer right now,
it's no.
656
00:53:18,940 --> 00:53:22,700
- Is there a chance ?
- Yeah, let me think about it.
657
00:53:22,700 --> 00:53:24,940
He goes: "Well I give you 'til a week."
658
00:53:24,940 --> 00:53:27,420
I rejoined in 1995.
659
00:53:27,420 --> 00:53:32,100
Blackie needed that,
'cause Blackie kept trying different things,
660
00:53:32,100 --> 00:53:35,740
but when Chris came back,
it kind of breathed new life into it.
661
00:53:35,740 --> 00:53:38,980
He kinda covered that up from me for a while.
662
00:53:38,980 --> 00:53:42,780
He'd be playing with them about a year before I saw him again.
663
00:53:42,780 --> 00:53:45,420
"You're not gonna believe it,
but I joined W.A.S.P. again..."
664
00:53:45,420 --> 00:53:48,220
I'm like: "Chris, when are you gonna learn?"
665
00:53:57,260 --> 00:54:00,340
{\an8} We destroyed our female following with K.F.D.
666
00:54:00,940 --> 00:54:04,380
The cross, the nun,
667
00:54:04,380 --> 00:54:07,580
fucking the nun, pulling out the foetus,
668
00:54:07,580 --> 00:54:12,140
stabbing it on the knife-codpiece
and holding it up as if in victory...
669
00:54:12,140 --> 00:54:16,460
It was too dark.
Women couldn't relate to it.
670
00:54:30,740 --> 00:54:34,220
The only reason I came back to play music
is because I wanted to travel again,
671
00:54:34,220 --> 00:54:35,700
to see Europe and stuff...
672
00:54:35,700 --> 00:54:39,180
If not, I'd have probably never left L.A.
673
00:54:39,180 --> 00:54:42,460
I went back and got my ass kicked a second time.
674
00:54:43,580 --> 00:54:45,540
To get a good ass kicking,
675
00:54:45,540 --> 00:54:48,860
'cause I hadn't get kicked good enough the first time.
676
00:54:49,180 --> 00:54:51,260
Then when he rejoined the band,
677
00:54:51,260 --> 00:54:53,340
Blackie made it specific:
678
00:54:53,340 --> 00:54:56,380
he spent money to get him sober.
679
00:54:56,380 --> 00:54:59,260
It was the best thing for Chris, and if we loved him,
680
00:54:59,260 --> 00:55:03,260
and we wanted to be in the band,
then we needed to support his sobriety.
681
00:55:03,260 --> 00:55:05,260
I got a D.U.I.
682
00:55:05,260 --> 00:55:08,100
I was out messing around in the clubs,
having fun,
683
00:55:08,100 --> 00:55:11,340
doing the Chris thing
and got in trouble drunk again.
684
00:55:11,340 --> 00:55:13,980
It kind of made me quit drinking.
685
00:55:13,980 --> 00:55:17,300
I know they have their differences and all that,
686
00:55:17,300 --> 00:55:21,860
but Blackie very much cared about Chris
and spent time and money to help him get sober.
687
00:55:21,860 --> 00:55:25,620
Probably the best thing that ever happened to me
688
00:55:25,620 --> 00:55:28,540
was getting a sixth D.U.I.
689
00:55:28,540 --> 00:55:32,300
If I didn't get that 502,
I'd probably be dead now from drinking.
690
00:55:32,300 --> 00:55:34,180
I'd probably drank myself to death.
691
00:55:53,620 --> 00:55:56,020
I didn't play a note on "Unholy Terror".
692
00:55:56,020 --> 00:55:57,700
Listen to the record.
693
00:55:57,700 --> 00:56:00,780
Why do you think he'd put my name on it?
So it would sell.
694
00:56:00,780 --> 00:56:04,580
If it didn't have my name on it
it wouldn't look like we did songs together.
695
00:56:04,580 --> 00:56:08,020
"Saturday Night's Alright for Fighting":
I didn't play on that,
696
00:56:08,020 --> 00:56:10,740
and he put my name on it, I got pissed off.
697
00:56:10,740 --> 00:56:12,140
I got mad.
698
00:56:12,140 --> 00:56:17,500
- I thought you'd want your name on it.
- I don't want my name on that shitty ass guitar playing.
699
00:56:17,500 --> 00:56:21,380
If I didn't play on it,
I don't like lying on things like that.
700
00:56:22,140 --> 00:56:25,660
There was a blow-out,
701
00:56:25,660 --> 00:56:28,980
it happened at my studio.
702
00:56:28,980 --> 00:56:32,740
It was in 2002,
Blackie came in with a piece of paper,
703
00:56:32,740 --> 00:56:35,980
and I read it and it was a fan who said:
704
00:56:35,980 --> 00:56:38,980
"I saw W.A.S.P. at Harpo's,
which is in Detroit,
705
00:56:38,980 --> 00:56:41,740
I got everyone's autograph, except Blackie's.
706
00:56:41,740 --> 00:56:45,940
Blackie went on the bus,
I asked Chris for Blackie's autograph,
707
00:56:45,940 --> 00:56:48,380
Chris said no, he couldn't get it.
708
00:56:48,380 --> 00:56:54,260
I asked why". And the next caption was:
"He's a fucking asshole."
709
00:56:54,940 --> 00:56:57,620
Blackie asked me if I said that.
710
00:56:57,620 --> 00:57:00,660
I gave him back the paper and I go:
"Yeah, I did say that."
711
00:57:00,660 --> 00:57:03,860
He goes: "I thought we had a better
understanding about each other"
712
00:57:03,860 --> 00:57:07,620
I go: "Well, let me explain to you
why I said this."
713
00:57:08,340 --> 00:57:10,980
And I explained it to him.
714
00:57:10,980 --> 00:57:15,660
He got up, walked out of the room
and said he was jealous.
715
00:57:15,660 --> 00:57:17,780
It was the last time I ever saw him.
716
00:57:28,380 --> 00:57:30,980
We have to go back from the same way.
717
00:57:34,500 --> 00:57:36,340
I just want to sleep.
718
00:57:41,220 --> 00:57:43,740
She's the guest of the place,
719
00:57:43,740 --> 00:57:45,580
but the keys are not working, guys.
720
00:57:45,900 --> 00:57:49,620
{\an8} Can you come and get us,
we don't know where we are...?
721
00:57:50,420 --> 00:57:51,940
{\an8} Holy shit!
722
00:57:52,380 --> 00:57:55,980
{\an8} So we drive this way,
we turn left at the crossroads, then right?
723
00:57:57,220 --> 00:57:58,260
{\an8} Sorry.
724
00:58:38,940 --> 00:58:40,780
Let's pray!
725
00:58:40,780 --> 00:58:44,380
Did you pray for your breakfast?
726
00:58:44,380 --> 00:58:49,020
Both my uncles are mormon.
727
00:58:49,020 --> 00:58:50,900
Their kids are all mormon.
728
00:58:50,900 --> 00:58:53,980
They make you a priest when you're sixteen.
729
00:58:54,340 --> 00:58:57,500
I told them,
and they decided not to make me a priest.
730
00:58:57,500 --> 00:58:59,740
My folks were mormon,
731
00:58:59,740 --> 00:59:05,460
so he went to church and everything
until he got about 16 or 17.
732
00:59:05,460 --> 00:59:09,660
I hated the mormon 'cause I had to go to church.
733
00:59:10,940 --> 00:59:13,580
Every Sunday: get up at 7 o'clock,
734
00:59:13,580 --> 00:59:17,660
brush my teeth, comb my hair,
put on my tie...
735
00:59:17,660 --> 00:59:19,580
go to church all day, I hated it...
736
00:59:20,100 --> 00:59:23,140
I blame the mormons for all my drug use.
737
00:59:23,140 --> 00:59:26,980
The mormon troop had a Boy Scout troop.
738
00:59:26,980 --> 00:59:31,820
From 12 to 16, we'd go down the Grand Canyon,
739
00:59:31,820 --> 00:59:36,180
we'd do lots of drugs,
extremely lot of drugs...
740
00:59:37,620 --> 00:59:42,820
Extreme amounts of drugs:
usually cocaine and alcohol,
741
00:59:42,820 --> 00:59:44,460
and LSD.
742
00:59:44,460 --> 00:59:47,580
Then he decided he didn't wanna go to church anymore.
743
00:59:47,580 --> 00:59:50,580
If he didn't wanna go,
don't push him, I don't care.
744
00:59:50,580 --> 00:59:52,300
It's his life, you know...
745
00:59:53,340 --> 00:59:59,140
Believing in religion is stupid.
746
00:59:59,140 --> 01:00:02,140
I can't believe it, it's stupid.
747
01:00:02,140 --> 01:00:06,180
This is a rock,
if it hits my head, blood comes out.
748
01:00:06,180 --> 01:00:09,180
Well, make blood come out, God.
749
01:00:14,860 --> 01:00:16,500
How you doin'?
750
01:00:18,780 --> 01:00:21,380
My friend had a picture of his wife
and they divorced,
751
01:00:21,380 --> 01:00:25,220
so he had a shotgun next to her head
blowing her head off.
752
01:00:27,700 --> 01:00:29,420
{\an8} Fuckin' camera.
753
01:00:31,380 --> 01:00:34,620
{\an8} One time, I was going up to Arizona to visit my mom,
754
01:00:34,620 --> 01:00:41,380
{\an8} I stopped at the gas station,
it's got the fake tattoos,
755
01:00:41,380 --> 01:00:44,060
{\an8} and it's got the one you put around your wrist.
756
01:00:44,060 --> 01:00:47,620
{\an8} So I buy it
and I get to the house about 4 in the morning.
757
01:00:48,460 --> 01:00:54,100
{\an8} I go in the bathroom and I put it in water,
and I put it on my forehead.
758
01:00:57,860 --> 01:00:58,900
{\an8} It dried.
759
01:00:58,900 --> 01:01:03,260
{\an8} In the morning, she wakes me up at 10.
760
01:01:03,260 --> 01:01:05,100
{\an8} "What the fuck did you do?"
761
01:01:05,100 --> 01:01:06,700
{\an8} I'd forgotten and said "What's up?"
762
01:01:06,700 --> 01:01:08,620
{\an8} "That tattoo on your head!"
763
01:01:08,620 --> 01:01:10,220
{\an8} "Oh, you like it mom?"
764
01:01:10,220 --> 01:01:12,220
{\an8} "You fuckin' idiot!"
765
01:01:15,220 --> 01:01:18,020
Now we're talking.
That's a man tattoo.
766
01:01:18,020 --> 01:01:19,540
What Mean Man?
767
01:01:19,540 --> 01:01:23,860
I was a huge W.A.S.P. fan when I was a kid.
768
01:01:23,860 --> 01:01:28,140
I still am, so this is huge,
definitely.
769
01:01:28,140 --> 01:01:31,580
I snivelled and cried and beat him up
and everything else
770
01:01:31,580 --> 01:01:33,980
when he first started getting the tattoos.
771
01:01:33,980 --> 01:01:38,020
Finally, what can you do?
You're not with him 24 hours.
772
01:01:38,020 --> 01:01:40,500
I said "Just don't get'em above your neck,
773
01:01:40,500 --> 01:01:44,860
so when you come to my funeral,
you can wear a shirt buttoned-up."
774
01:01:44,860 --> 01:01:48,500
My mom had an Hells Angels' jacket made.
775
01:01:48,500 --> 01:01:53,820
I truly believe, if she did not have children,
she would have joined the Hells Angels.
776
01:01:53,820 --> 01:01:56,380
Why do you think?
777
01:01:57,460 --> 01:02:00,420
'cause I'm crazy I suppose...
778
01:02:16,380 --> 01:02:18,940
Alright!
779
01:02:53,140 --> 01:02:55,780
My name is Thomas.
780
01:02:55,780 --> 01:03:00,540
I've been a fan since '88, I think,
781
01:03:00,540 --> 01:03:03,860
and I started collecting in '89.
782
01:03:03,860 --> 01:03:08,420
I've got somewhere
between 300/400 different records,
783
01:03:08,420 --> 01:03:12,540
CDs and a couple gold records...
784
01:03:12,540 --> 01:03:15,940
I spent a lot of money on W.A.S.P.
785
01:03:15,940 --> 01:03:18,020
I've been a fan now for 25 years,
786
01:03:18,020 --> 01:03:20,940
but it's the first time I get to see Chris Holmes.
787
01:03:35,580 --> 01:03:39,020
Norway!
788
01:03:39,500 --> 01:03:42,500
Enjoy yourself while you can and you're 20!
789
01:03:42,980 --> 01:03:45,740
Thanks for comin', alright!
790
01:03:46,780 --> 01:03:50,100
I just lived in L.A., surviving...
791
01:03:50,100 --> 01:03:54,180
I tried to find groups to play in
but nobody would play with me.
792
01:03:54,180 --> 01:03:57,140
I started managing him for a brief period of time.
793
01:03:57,140 --> 01:04:00,540
He was down and out, depressed,
794
01:04:00,540 --> 01:04:02,380
living in a house behind a house.
795
01:04:02,380 --> 01:04:06,380
He did call me and stuff,
and never really asked for money or anything.
796
01:04:06,380 --> 01:04:08,060
Just say "How you doin'?"
797
01:04:08,060 --> 01:04:11,940
He'd come over, have a beer,
we have a good dinner and stuff,
798
01:04:11,940 --> 01:04:13,140
then he'd be on his way.
799
01:04:13,140 --> 01:04:16,700
He wouldn't ask for help,
that's not what he did.
800
01:04:16,700 --> 01:04:20,340
He would get by with the bare minimum.
801
01:04:20,340 --> 01:04:23,980
He wouldn't be happy,
but he could survive like that.
802
01:04:23,980 --> 01:04:29,460
He worked doing construction,
roofing and concrete work.
803
01:04:29,460 --> 01:04:32,980
I worked shitty jobs in L.A.
804
01:04:32,980 --> 01:04:37,500
I used to work for Hustler,
doing the lights for pornos.
805
01:04:37,500 --> 01:04:41,380
It's a job most guys would die for,
but it's really boring.
806
01:04:41,380 --> 01:04:43,820
Chris Holmes everybody!
807
01:04:52,380 --> 01:04:56,940
I put together one of the first
Hollywood celebrity all-star bands
808
01:04:56,940 --> 01:04:59,580
called the Big Ball Stars,
that's some great players in it.
809
01:04:59,580 --> 01:05:02,540
At the time, Chris was hiding out.
810
01:05:02,540 --> 01:05:07,220
{\an8} So I said "Why don't you come
and play a song with my all-star band?"
811
01:05:07,220 --> 01:05:11,540
"No, no one likes to play with me.
I don't get along with anyone..."
812
01:05:11,540 --> 01:05:14,820
He'd been pretty banged up
and around the business for a while.
813
01:05:14,820 --> 01:05:17,460
Nobody had seen him play in years:
814
01:05:17,460 --> 01:05:19,780
he played guitar flawlessly
815
01:05:19,780 --> 01:05:23,780
and he jumped around on that stage
like a fucking maniac.
816
01:05:23,780 --> 01:05:28,780
But didn't miss a beat,
and he just totally dominated the stage.
817
01:05:28,780 --> 01:05:33,340
People were just blown away, it was like:
"Holy shit, Chris Holmes is back!"
818
01:05:39,820 --> 01:05:44,980
When he met Sarah,
he was at a pretty low point in his life.
819
01:05:44,980 --> 01:05:48,220
I don't think he knew where to go
or which directions to take.
820
01:05:48,220 --> 01:05:53,260
She came in
and really started to manage his life for him,
821
01:05:53,260 --> 01:05:56,020
which he needed at the time.
He needed that support.
822
01:05:56,020 --> 01:05:57,860
I'm a huge Motörhead fan.
823
01:05:57,860 --> 01:06:02,260
One day, Chris told me about
the recordings that he had with Philthy.
824
01:06:02,260 --> 01:06:06,780
He had mentioned to me:
"I've been working with this guy for a few years,
825
01:06:06,780 --> 01:06:09,660
I think we're ready to mix it,
would you be interested?"
826
01:06:09,660 --> 01:06:12,700
I said: "Hell yeah!"
827
01:06:12,700 --> 01:06:15,820
Chris and Philthy!
828
01:06:15,820 --> 01:06:21,260
Out of anybody I've ever met in the music business,
and I've met a lot of people,
829
01:06:21,260 --> 01:06:26,700
he's probably the coolest guy I've ever met
as being a human being towards other people.
830
01:06:26,700 --> 01:06:30,340
If it wasn't for him,
I probably wouldn't have even done the first abum,
831
01:06:30,340 --> 01:06:32,860
'cause it was all done on his computers and stuff.
832
01:06:32,860 --> 01:06:35,900
He actually died, it's sad.
833
01:06:35,900 --> 01:06:38,660
He was ill for a long time.
834
01:06:38,660 --> 01:06:41,380
His liver shut down,
835
01:06:41,380 --> 01:06:44,940
and the last thing I said was...
836
01:06:44,940 --> 01:06:49,460
They came to pick me up in a car,
I put my hand on his head and I just said
837
01:06:49,460 --> 01:06:51,980
"Phil, it's probably the last time
we'll ever see each other."
838
01:06:51,980 --> 01:06:54,580
He shook his head and said "Yeah, I know",
839
01:06:54,580 --> 01:06:56,980
then he died a few days later.
840
01:07:20,260 --> 01:07:24,580
It was very hard to record the first album,
we had no money.
841
01:07:24,580 --> 01:07:29,260
{\an8} Everyone thought we were not able to do it.
842
01:07:29,740 --> 01:07:35,300
{\an8} Chris said "We need to go to Europe,
it's the only place where I can still make it."
843
01:07:35,300 --> 01:07:37,460
I'd had that conversation with Chris.
844
01:07:37,460 --> 01:07:42,260
We talked about L.A., U.S...
It's nothing.
845
01:07:42,260 --> 01:07:45,740
Over there, you're a rockstar,
over here, you're a has-been.
846
01:07:45,780 --> 01:07:48,940
The opportunities aren't here for you,
why don't you go to Europe?
847
01:07:48,940 --> 01:07:53,860
I got rid of everything I had:
my car, my dog...
848
01:07:53,860 --> 01:07:57,860
It was everything I'd ever known,
I lived there my whole life, you know.
849
01:08:08,260 --> 01:08:11,140
{\an8} Tell the camera who won pool!
850
01:08:44,100 --> 01:08:46,180
That was a good mess!
851
01:09:12,860 --> 01:09:15,500
I love you, man!
852
01:09:15,500 --> 01:09:17,580
- Is your mom still alive?
- Oh yeah!
853
01:09:17,580 --> 01:09:19,020
I love your mom!
854
01:09:19,020 --> 01:09:20,540
She's still going.
855
01:09:20,540 --> 01:09:22,940
Drinking vodka with your mom and filming...
856
01:09:22,940 --> 01:09:24,500
That was thirty years ago.
857
01:09:28,180 --> 01:09:33,140
I'm so glad I don't drink anymore!
858
01:09:33,980 --> 01:09:35,900
I quit drinking twenty years ago.
859
01:09:36,260 --> 01:09:39,740
- Welcome to Halifax!
- Is this Halifax?
860
01:09:42,060 --> 01:09:45,260
Hi, I'm Paul, I'm from Halifax.
861
01:09:45,260 --> 01:09:49,980
I sell fancy dress for Halloween,
carnival, that sort of things.
862
01:09:49,980 --> 01:09:54,460
Chris kindly agreed to a personal meet & greet
863
01:09:54,460 --> 01:09:58,460
and jam session with my band.
864
01:09:58,460 --> 01:10:01,340
I grew up listening to W.A.S.P.
865
01:10:01,340 --> 01:10:05,500
from 1985...
866
01:10:05,500 --> 01:10:08,380
Chris inspired me to pick up a guitar
and learn to play.
867
01:10:08,380 --> 01:10:12,580
Finally, I have the chance
to invite Chris and the band here,
868
01:10:12,580 --> 01:10:17,620
so it's kind of a privilege to be able to do that.
869
01:10:17,620 --> 01:10:19,900
It's Chris Holmes, it's not W.A.S.P.
870
01:10:19,900 --> 01:10:22,020
Chris Holmes was part of that band.
871
01:10:22,020 --> 01:10:24,540
He's singing, he's got his style,
872
01:10:24,540 --> 01:10:26,540
and he sounds great: he's rock n' roll.
873
01:10:26,540 --> 01:10:28,860
Chris, give me a hug, man.
874
01:10:28,860 --> 01:10:31,580
We're going to see him again.
875
01:10:31,580 --> 01:10:34,100
He was the same guy, 27 years ago:
876
01:10:34,100 --> 01:10:37,420
polite, a gentleman,
true to his fans,
877
01:10:37,420 --> 01:10:40,180
and he just enjoys playing the guitar.
878
01:10:56,220 --> 01:10:58,380
Oh, Mean Man!
879
01:10:59,340 --> 01:11:01,940
- You're gonna play "Fuck Like a Beast" tonight?
- Hell yeah!
880
01:11:01,940 --> 01:11:04,060
Blackie won't play it anymore.
881
01:11:04,060 --> 01:11:07,740
{\an8} My first time listening to W.A.S.P.
was about when the first L.P. came out.
882
01:11:07,740 --> 01:11:10,820
{\an8} In 1984, I saw them at the Lyceum in London,
883
01:11:10,820 --> 01:11:13,060
{\an8} it was their first gig there.
884
01:11:13,060 --> 01:11:14,940
{\an8} It's my favorite band of all time.
885
01:11:53,140 --> 01:11:56,460
All of my life,
886
01:11:56,460 --> 01:11:59,940
especially when I was young,
887
01:12:00,860 --> 01:12:07,700
I couldn't understand
where they all come from.
888
01:12:07,940 --> 01:12:12,020
I spend the last few months in here.
889
01:12:15,660 --> 01:12:19,460
Going to rehearsal with the drums,
and bass and everything,
890
01:12:19,460 --> 01:12:22,780
putting up with three other guys,
which takes time and money...
891
01:12:22,780 --> 01:12:26,140
It's easier just doing it all here in pre-production.
892
01:12:26,140 --> 01:12:30,580
And I can figure out
if I can sing on a song or not.
893
01:12:30,580 --> 01:12:35,020
Ug sits over here.
He's my little dog, Ug.
894
01:12:38,340 --> 01:12:41,740
His name's Ug 'cause he's ugly.
895
01:12:44,940 --> 01:12:48,260
I'm lucky I can play guitar,
896
01:12:48,260 --> 01:12:50,140
I can program the drums,
897
01:12:50,140 --> 01:12:52,220
and I can sing and do it all myself.
898
01:12:52,220 --> 01:12:55,460
I don't need anybody sit here and help me do it.
899
01:12:55,460 --> 01:12:59,020
I'm very lucky I've learned all those things.
900
01:13:00,980 --> 01:13:02,860
It's funny!
901
01:13:02,860 --> 01:13:04,980
Chris can live in any place:
902
01:13:04,980 --> 01:13:08,460
live in France, live in America,
but he needs to come visit at least.
903
01:13:08,460 --> 01:13:11,580
If he wants to live in France, great,
but come visit America,
904
01:13:11,580 --> 01:13:13,060
'cause I know he misses it.
905
01:13:13,060 --> 01:13:16,020
- Do we think he's gonna come back?
- We hope he comes back someday.
906
01:13:16,020 --> 01:13:19,060
Hopefully, he'll come through with his band.
907
01:13:19,540 --> 01:13:24,060
My big dream is that he's gonna call me and say
"Jim, I'm going to be playing in L.A.,
908
01:13:24,060 --> 01:13:26,980
I need you for this day and this day",
and I'm gonna say "I'm there".
909
01:13:26,980 --> 01:13:30,180
He told me he'd never come back.
I think he's homesick.
910
01:13:30,180 --> 01:13:33,380
I'm pretty sure he's homesick.
He wants In-N-Out Burger or something...
911
01:13:33,380 --> 01:13:34,820
He's a wild man,
912
01:13:34,820 --> 01:13:39,660
but inside that guy,
you've got a heart of gold,
913
01:13:39,660 --> 01:13:41,980
someone that couldn't be more genuine.
914
01:13:41,980 --> 01:13:45,620
He's a sweet person, got a heart of gold,
but he's got the anger and the rebellion,
915
01:13:45,620 --> 01:13:50,100
and he's got the balls, like I do,
to say what he thinks and play what he feels.
916
01:13:50,100 --> 01:13:53,860
That's why I love it, man,
'cause he'll tell right to your face: "fuck you!"
917
01:13:53,860 --> 01:13:57,060
He'll tell you right to your face:
fuck you!
918
01:14:16,220 --> 01:14:19,380
We're in Cannes,
we're in the recording studio,
919
01:14:19,380 --> 01:14:22,100
recording the songs for my E.P.
920
01:14:26,780 --> 01:14:29,940
That means we've got eight tracks of guitar, right?
921
01:14:30,420 --> 01:14:32,060
That's alright.
922
01:14:33,460 --> 01:14:34,780
Barely enough...
923
01:14:35,500 --> 01:14:38,300
I'd put fuckin' 52 if I could.
924
01:14:38,300 --> 01:14:42,420
As you see, we're doing it in a proper studio,
925
01:14:42,420 --> 01:14:47,180
other than the way I've recorded
the last previous projects.
926
01:14:48,180 --> 01:14:50,260
Yeah, it should sound good.
927
01:15:04,420 --> 01:15:06,860
Thank you for comin' here!
928
01:15:09,900 --> 01:15:13,860
Everyone, get up for Mr. Chris Holmes!!
929
01:15:15,060 --> 01:15:17,660
I've been doin' it a long time.
930
01:15:17,660 --> 01:15:21,060
Fuck, I'm 61 next month!
931
01:15:40,100 --> 01:15:43,460
Once the energy is gone,
I wouldn't play, I'd quit.
932
01:15:43,460 --> 01:15:47,380
That's what I play:
it's energy that comes out of the way I play guitar.
933
01:15:47,380 --> 01:15:51,060
If that wasn't there,
I'd totally quit playing and do something else.
934
01:15:51,060 --> 01:15:53,700
I'd give it up, but it's still there when I play.
935
01:15:54,020 --> 01:15:57,580
I had a problem with my hand last year.
936
01:15:57,580 --> 01:15:59,860
Something has happened to my elbow,
937
01:15:59,860 --> 01:16:02,580
and my hand's still numb.
938
01:16:02,580 --> 01:16:06,020
I just learned to play with my fingers a different way,
it's ok.
939
01:16:06,020 --> 01:16:08,700
That's just the way it is.
940
01:16:08,700 --> 01:16:10,500
My sister, she goes:
941
01:16:10,500 --> 01:16:13,860
"I didn't expect him to live past 30."
942
01:16:13,860 --> 01:16:17,060
Well now I'm 60,
and I'm still going.
943
01:16:24,060 --> 01:16:27,260
I'll do my band, my thing,
start this and...
944
01:16:28,420 --> 01:16:31,340
if it fails, it fails,
and if it doesn't, it doesn't...
945
01:16:33,060 --> 01:16:36,180
I'll make sure it's gonna kick ass on stage.
946
01:16:37,340 --> 01:16:40,300
That's my main thing,
that's what I do.
947
01:16:40,300 --> 01:16:43,260
Thank you very much, I love you!
948
01:16:44,340 --> 01:16:46,740
I would say good night, but it's not night:
949
01:16:46,740 --> 01:16:48,540
good day!
950
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,175
That's my last word.
75724
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