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(narrator)
On the eve of the '80s,
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a decade after cancelation,
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"Star Trek" was back.
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The motion picture
had successfully relaunched
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the franchise, taking more than
three times its budget
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at the box office.
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- I could never believe that.
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- Well, despite earning
$139 million worldwide,
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a sequel to the original
motion picture
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was anything but a certainty.
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So beam aboard and hold on tight
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as we boldly go into
the depths of "Star Trek".
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And you can see it all from here
in "The Center Seat."
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Despite having made millions
and the studio's desire to make
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a follow up to "Star Trek:
The Motion Picture",
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there were still issues.
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- By that time,
the perception was
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despite its financial success,
which you would think
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would be enough, it just didn't
do what they wanted it to do.
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- "They" being the studio,
and they didn't like
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how the motion picture
had been made.
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- The lack of discipline
during production was legendary,
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(narrator)
But the studio had a solution.
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- We're gonna make this picture
and it's gonna be done
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out of the eyes of
the television division.
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♪
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Thinking being obviously
that folks in television
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know how to do things cheaper.
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- You didn't need to tell
"Star Trek" creator
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Gene Roddenberry twice.
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A TV guy through and through,
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he cranked out the script
in no time.
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- Which was the crew of
the Enterprise being involved
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in the assassination of JFK
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and sort of writing history.
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- And Paramount
wrote back immediately.
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- They were rejected it
with a form letter.
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"Thank you for making
the submission,
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it's not what
we're looking for."
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And this is going
to Gene Roddenberry.
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- Paramount had adopted a less
is more approach to Roddenberry.
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- They didn't wanna
deal with him.
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- No one did. His last writer
had only one message for him.
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- Don't ever touch my script,
you bastard!
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He wouldn't stop rewriting.
He was just maniacal about it.
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- Years of creative interference
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had burned too many bridges
with Paramount.
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- When "Star Trek: The Motion
Picture" got mixed reviews,
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and because the budget
went so far over,
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even though that had nothing to
do with Gene Roddenberry at all,
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Paramount used that as an excuse
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to take "Star Trek" away
from Gene Roddenberry.
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- And he was demoted.
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(narrator) You could say
Gene was his own worst enemy,
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but there's a theory
that explains
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complicated characters like him.
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- Did you ever hear of the Moses
Joshua Theory of Creation?
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- It's the idea that some
creative types are like Moses.
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- They bring into existence
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something that wasn't
there before.
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- But like Moses himself they
lack certain managerial skills,
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needing organized types
like Joshua.
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- As a can-do person.
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- That is brilliant.
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Gene led us through
the desert for 40 years.
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Yeah, but he couldn't deliver.
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- But Gene wasn't entirely
banished from the Promised Land.
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- He was given the courtesy of
a tiny little office.
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- They gave him a new contract
that said that he would be
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a very well paid
script consultant.
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- But in Hollywood terms...
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- That meant that he had
no power, he was not in control.
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(narrator)
Well, no power officially.
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But Gene, a master
of the dark arts of PR,
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wasn't ready to dematerialize
just yet.
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Meanwhile, Paramount
had found their Joshua.
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- A guy named Harve Bennett.
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(John)
Incredibly popular.
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He knew how to do
a science fiction show.
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- Having cut his teeth
on "The Mod Squad",
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the "Six Million Dollar Man"
and "The Bionic Woman",
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he knew how to make
the ordinary extraordinary.
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♪
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And...
- He knew how to
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do a show under budget.
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- Harve Bennett met with
Paramount executives.
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- They asked him for
his honest opinion
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on "Star Trek:
The Motion Picture".
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- And he said do I tell
the truth or do I, you know,
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you know, give him something
he wants to hear?
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(narrator)
What he said shocked no one.
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- Kind of boring.
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- My kids are falling
asleep during it.
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- And they said, okay, can you
make us a "Star Trek" movie
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for less than $45 million?
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- And he very famously said,
sir, I could make three better
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pictures for what you spent.
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- Harve was speaking
Paramount's language
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and the budget for
the sequel reflected that
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to the tune of...
- $13 million.
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- For that kind of money,
you could barely make
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the opening titles of
most blockbuster sci-fis.
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So Harve went to a producer
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whose middle name
is resourceful.
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- I had gone to UCLA film school
before film was fashionable
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and one of my classmates
was a guy named Harve Bennett.
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- And one day out of the blue,
his old friend called him.
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- And he says, I'd like you to
produce the "Star Trek" thing.
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And I said, sure,
why not? Okay.
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- So while Harve nailed down
the story, Bob's job...
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- Was to do everything else.
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(narrator)
With no real ideas yet,
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Harve returned to "Star Trek's"
roots for inspiration.
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- Harve did screen all
the previous episodes,
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and it was in doing so that
he came up with the idea
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of bringing Khan back into
the picture, as it were.
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- Khan was the genetically
engineered alpha male made
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famous by Ricardo Montalban in
the episode "Space Seed."
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- My name is Khan,
please sit and entertain me.
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(narrator) And if Khan was
back, Montalban was back.
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Older, wiser
and even more famous,
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thanks to some truly
fantastic performances.
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- Welcome to Fantasy Island.
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- Montalban is
an underrated actor.
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He's a fantastic actor who
played a great variety of roles
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and always a polished,
beautiful performance.
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- But as one character returned,
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one very important one
was about to leave.
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- Leonard Nimoy did not want
to do another "Star Trek" movie.
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- He thought it'd be a good time
to retire the character.
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- Spock or no Spock,
Harve Bennett and Paramount
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continue to develop the script,
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even turning to writers
from the original series.
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- It was a revolving door,
it seemed to me, of writers.
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- Taking bits and pieces
from everyone,
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they were far from having one
script they were all happy with.
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- The clock was ticking,
I was very concerned.
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- Then it was an unexpected
break in casting that would
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give the script a new direction.
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Nimoy had changed his tune,
telling producers...
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- I would love to do it.
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- Meaning he'd love
to come back as Spock.
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But under one condition.
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- Leonard said write me out,
find an exit for Spock.
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- That is wise.
- So Harve Bennett
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called Leonard a few days later
and said...
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- What no fan
would want to hear.
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- We're going to kill Spock.
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And Nimoy said, okay, great.
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(narrator)
Nimoy loved it,
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but the creator
of Mr. Spock didn't.
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- Spock was supposed
to get killed
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ten pages into the script.
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- Gene Roddenberry
hears about this
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and he feels this is
the end of "Star Trek."
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- Gene was incensed at the idea.
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- You don't have to kill Spock,
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you can just have him
going back to Vulcan.
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Unfortunately,
nobody would listen to him.
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- He did not have any
responsibility for
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the production or for
shaping the material.
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- But that wouldn't
stop him from trying.
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- Gene would send us memos.
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They were, by and large,
disregarded.
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- But Gene was not
going to just sit by
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and watch them kill off one of
his favorite characters.
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- This was personal for Gene.
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- So Gene resorted to one
of his oldest tricks.
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- He leaked through
Susan Sacket, his assistant,
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that Spock was going to get
killed the first ten minutes.
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- How do they know this?
Well, they had put sort of
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a code on the scripts so they
could track the scripts back.
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- But by the time they found out
who did it, it was too late.
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And the fans had an uprising.
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- And once again...
- Paramount was being flooded
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with letters and phone calls...
(phones ringing)
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- Threatening
to boycott the movie...
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- Unless Spock was not
killed off.
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- But some fans took it
much further than that.
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And the next thing I know,
on my home telephone
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answering machine,
I got a message.
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- A message that
cut right to the point.
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- "You kill Spock
and we'll kill you."
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I've served in the Marine Corps,
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and I've served
in the Air Force,
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and I've never had
my life in danger.
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But I'm producing
a "Star Trek" picture
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and my life is being threatened?
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- We were kind of
being driven up the wall
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by the volume of mail,
by pressure tactics,
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by certain people who, as I say,
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felt over possessive
about "Star Trek".
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So we simply decided on a policy
and the policy is closed set.
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- But before they
could close the set,
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Robert would have
to find a director.
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- What I found out
is a lot of people
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didn't want to do "Star Trek",
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a lot of people didn't
want to do a sequel,
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a lot of directors
didn't want to do sci-fi,
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and a lot of directors
weren't available.
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- There must be somebody
who wanted the gig.
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- So I made up a list,
I must've had
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30 or 40 people on my list.
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(narrator)
Down a long list of names,
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Bob came across this guy.
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- I'm Nicholas Meyer
and I write and direct movies.
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- But back in 1982,
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Nick had only one film
under his belt,
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meaning "Star Trek" was...
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- Only the second movie
I'd ever made in my life.
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- And a complete novice when it
came to the Star Trek universe.
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- But we talked and he got it.
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Comparing "Star Trek" to...
- "Hornblower" in outer space.
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- Words almost out of
Gene Roddenberry mouth.
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- So we signed him.
- Cigar and all.
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- Harve and I walked out,
and Harve turned to me
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and said, I don't know.
I said, what's wrong?
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He said, he's going
to be trouble.
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- But the trouble is
all Nicolas's for now.
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He was faced with five
different scripts.
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- So I read them.
- And from five scripts,
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Nicholas came out with one idea.
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- Why don't we make a list
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of all the things we like
in these five scripts?
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And then we'll try to cobble
this together and make
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a new movie that incorporates
as much of this as possible?
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- Which was a great idea
until Nicholas found out
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he only had 12 days to write it.
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- Ugh.
- They say, well,
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the problem is that if we don't
have a draft of a script
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in 12 days, ILM...
- That's effects house
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Industrial Light and Magic...
- Say they cannot deliver
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the special effects shots
in time for the June opening.
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- At which point,
Nicholas asked...
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- What June opening?
- Never rains, but it pours.
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- And they said, you know,
we booked the thing
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into 600 theaters or something.
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You booked it into the theaters
and there's no movie?
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(narrator)
Nonetheless, Nicholas said...
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- Well, okay, I think
I can do this in 12 days.
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- To which Bob replied...
- There's no argument from me.
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(narrator) Paramount finally
had a writer-director
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who could work with
their ridiculous schedule.
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- Our concern was they're gonna
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drag their feet
on this upstairs.
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In the administration building.
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- Although Nicholas was already
signed on as a director,
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he would have to wait until
his writing deal was complete
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before starting the script.
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- They said, well, we couldn't
even make your deal in 12 days.
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And that's when I sort
of made my mistake
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and I said, well,
forget about the deal,
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forget about the money,
forget about the credit.
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- You know,
I was really dumbstruck.
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(narrator) Nicholas agreed
to write the movie...
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- For free.
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- Not just that...
- Um...
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- He agreed to do it
without any credit.
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- I really wanted
to make this movie.
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I was jonesing for
this thing by now.
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- And later he told me, he says,
my agent told me I was crazy,
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- Crazy or not, the movie was
now on Nicolas' shoulders.
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(narrator) With just 12 days to
write the "Star Trek" movie sequel...
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- As I worked, it was like
fiddling with a Rubik's Cube.
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- It was Mad Libs.
- Taking bits and pieces
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from previous drafts.
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(Nicholas)
The Genesis project.
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- Genesis is life.
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- Kirk meets his son.
Lieutenant Saavik.
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- I'm aware of my
responsibilities, Mister.
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(Nicholas)
The simulator sequence.
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- What about my performance?
- I'm not a drama critic.
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- But along the way, certain
themes are jumping out at you.
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- And Nicholas realized
he was writing a movie about...
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- Friendship, old age and death.
- Other people have birthdays,
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why are we treating yours
like a funeral?
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- Bones, I don't want
to be lectured.
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- And this is a cast
that is getting older,
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so rather than pretending
that they're not...
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- Who am I hiding from?
- Go at it head on
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- From yourself, Admiral.
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Give him glasses.
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♪
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(narrator) It sounded like the
answer to everyone's prayers.
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- He saved us.
- Called "The Wrath of Khan,"
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this "Star Trek" sequel
had everything.
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(phone ringing)
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(Nicholas)
Got a call from Harve Bennett.
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He said, we have a problem.
I said, what's the problem?
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And he says that Bill Shatner
hates the script.
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And I went, he-- he
hates the script?
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And I think, again,
only my second movie,
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oh, that's it, we're done,
we're toast.
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This is a disaster.
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(narrator) There was
only one thing for it,
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a meeting with the producers.
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- All I remember about
the meeting is that
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I had to keep getting up
and going to pee.
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I didn't know where to put
either my embarrassment
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or my rage.
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- While Nicholas' bladder
took the initial hit...
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- And I'm sitting there
totally finished.
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(narrator)
Drawing on years of experience,
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executive producer Harve Bennett
had already diagnosed
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the problem.
- Correct.
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- With Shatner,
not Nicolas' bladder.
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- Harve basically figured out
that Bill wanted to make sure
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that he was always the first man
through the door.
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- Permission to
come aboard, Captain.
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- Welcome, Admiral.
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- He was the leading guy.
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So I was learning
how to write for a star.
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(narrator) And like
every screen actor ever,
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Shatner was also worried
about the one number
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no more important to
an actor than his fee.
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- The original script
specified Kirk's age.
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(narrator)
And Shatner felt Captain Kirk
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should be ageless, thinking...
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- You know, they don't
have to put a number on him.
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- But I guess now
we'll never know.
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- 49 in the scripts.
- Happy birthday.
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(John) That wasn't something
that William Shatner
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wanted to do, I think
also for the character,
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you don't want to be
pinned down like that.
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- Thank you.
- He was understandably
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protective of what
he had created,
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the character of Kirk.
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(narrator) So Nicholas rewrote
with the star's ego in mind.
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(Nicholas) I went home and I
think fixed the thing in eight hours,
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and just sent it back to him.
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(narrator) Shatner's response
came back at warp speed.
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- Lights.
- He left a message
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on my voice message machine...
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(narrator) Which said
something like this...
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- "You are a genius",
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and something, something,
something.
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- And with that, he had
his star's blessing.
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- And I used to play it back
to him every now and again
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when I was, you know,
having issues.
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And I was like, hey, Bill,
just take a listen.
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"You are a genius" and
something something something.
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- Now, with the script settled,
Nicholas was free to pursue his
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vision of an action adventure,
taking inspiration from
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military dramas such as...
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- The movie called
"The Enemy Below".
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- Because for high drama
on a low budget,
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nothing beats a claustrophobic
contest of wills.
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- And so I went all out to
make it more like a submarine,
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more like destroyers,
those things
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are not built for comfort.
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- That meant making
everything...
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- Smaller, claustrophobic.
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- No minor detail was spared.
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(Nicholas) Why aren't
there blinking lights?
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Let's just put
a lot of those in.
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- But more than just lights,
Nicholas wanted to add...
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- Blood.
- And he got it.
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- Otherwise it was like
a cartoon or something.
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(narrator) Meanwhile,
"Star Trek's" creator
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had no problem
with blood on uniforms.
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He was more concerned
with the uniforms.
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- Gene Roddenberry,
I remember getting a memo,
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didn't like them, he thought
they were way too militaristic.
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- But having been relegated
to a small office...
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- That was just the way
it was going to be.
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- Because Nicholas Meyer
had drawn inspiration
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from another classic film.
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00:15:04,311 --> 00:15:07,647
- "The Prisoner of Zenda"
has the high collars
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and the wide flaps.
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- Which not only framed
the face beautifully
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It gives a color contrast.
- But it was going to take
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more than fancy uniforms to make
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a splash at the box office.
- How?
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- They would need state of
the art special effects
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from the legendary
wizards at ILM,
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while obeying Paramount's
prime directive.
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- Here's your budget, doesn't
change work, within that.
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- A budget that was a lot less
than the other films of the era.
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But director Nicholas Meyer
was undaunted.
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- Art thrives on restrictions.
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And also, I had a lot of
help from Robert Sallin...
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- Who oversaw much of ILM's work
for the young director.
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- He watched my back.
- And kept the designs
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under budget with
a few clever tricks.
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- The design of the Regula 1...
- Where the scientists were
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working on the Genesis Project
was actually
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the Orbital Office Complex.
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- It was leftover from
the first film
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and I just said,
turn it upside down.
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And that's what they did.
- And it didn't cost a cent.
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- If I could save a buck on
the models, I was gonna do it.
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- But when it came
to the USS Reliant
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a cheap hack wouldn't do--
- We did the same thing.
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00:16:09,459 --> 00:16:12,044
Yeah, I just flipped
the Enterprise upside down.
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And so instead of having
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the nacelles up here,
the nacelles are down here.
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- Yep, totally different.
- Yep.
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- So with
the upside down ships...
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- I said, how does that look?
- Cobbled together script,
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maroon uniforms,
and a green director,
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they began rolling on production
on November 9th, 1981.
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00:16:30,897 --> 00:16:31,981
(man)
Rolling.
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00:16:32,065 --> 00:16:33,324
(Robert)
We started production...
404
00:16:33,409 --> 00:16:35,076
(narrator)
But just three days in,
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00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,078
Robert sounded
the distress signal.
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(Robert) At the end of
the first three days
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00:16:39,072 --> 00:16:41,833
Nick was a week behind.
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00:16:41,992 --> 00:16:44,252
So Robert did what
anyone would do.
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00:16:44,336 --> 00:16:46,245
- I panicked, pure and simple.
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00:16:46,338 --> 00:16:48,256
I didn't know where
this was going to go,
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and I didn't know what to do.
412
00:16:50,083 --> 00:16:51,917
- Robert soon found himself
producing a movie
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whose director he couldn't
get through to.
414
00:16:54,346 --> 00:16:58,340
- Nick didn't know me,
and I think he was protective
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and hesitant and afraid
that I would somehow
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impinge on his world
or something.
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00:17:03,430 --> 00:17:05,690
And Nick was resistant.
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00:17:05,774 --> 00:17:08,026
I couldn't put
my arm around Nick
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and say, Nick, listen to me,
you're in trouble.
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00:17:11,363 --> 00:17:14,532
Now, I want to help you,
let me see if I can do that.
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00:17:14,616 --> 00:17:17,943
His attitude was always
keeping me at a distance.
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00:17:18,028 --> 00:17:19,787
- I was very busy.
- (narrator) It was like
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there was a forcefield
around Nick.
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So Robert made a call he thought
was the only way to save
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the second "Star Trek" movie.
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00:17:27,788 --> 00:17:29,455
- I went to management.
427
00:17:29,539 --> 00:17:32,041
And I said, here's
what's going on.
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00:17:32,134 --> 00:17:33,676
This could be a big problem
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00:17:37,973 --> 00:17:39,131
(narrator) With his
inexperienced director
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falling behind...
- I went to management.
431
00:17:41,885 --> 00:17:43,478
- And delivered a scathing
report to Paramount's top brass.
432
00:17:43,562 --> 00:17:47,065
- Thinking you should
replace him.
433
00:17:47,224 --> 00:17:49,558
- But Paramount
chief operating officer
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00:17:49,643 --> 00:17:52,153
Michael Eisner saw things
differently.
435
00:17:52,237 --> 00:17:54,489
- He said, no,
we're not going to do that.
436
00:17:54,648 --> 00:17:57,900
- Eisner was concerned about
Paramount's reputation.
437
00:17:57,984 --> 00:18:00,244
- And he said because nobody
will want to work at Paramount.
438
00:18:00,329 --> 00:18:01,737
I said, fair enough.
439
00:18:01,822 --> 00:18:04,323
- So stuck with his
young director for now,
440
00:18:04,407 --> 00:18:06,334
Robert put the pressure on.
441
00:18:06,418 --> 00:18:08,494
- We were able to get
the message across to Nick,
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00:18:08,587 --> 00:18:11,506
and he was receptive.
443
00:18:11,665 --> 00:18:15,343
- But being behind, he'd have
to find ways to make up time.
444
00:18:15,502 --> 00:18:19,097
- I had to fly down quickly
to get on set immediately.
445
00:18:19,256 --> 00:18:21,182
- On such a highly
technical shoot,
446
00:18:21,266 --> 00:18:23,518
Ken's experience
would come in handy.
447
00:18:23,677 --> 00:18:26,437
- I come down, I have probably
my little bit of crew, we go in.
448
00:18:26,522 --> 00:18:28,681
- And waited for the young
director to get to his
449
00:18:28,765 --> 00:18:30,349
special effects shots...
450
00:18:30,433 --> 00:18:32,276
(crickets chirping)
451
00:18:32,361 --> 00:18:34,195
And then waited some more.
452
00:18:34,279 --> 00:18:36,438
- They never got to the shot.
453
00:18:36,523 --> 00:18:38,440
- I'll say this for him,
he's consistent.
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00:18:38,525 --> 00:18:41,694
- The ILM effect wizards
were just sitting around
455
00:18:41,778 --> 00:18:43,704
conjuring up no light nor magic.
456
00:18:43,789 --> 00:18:47,449
- So I had to constantly
help him back
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00:18:47,534 --> 00:18:49,293
into the visual effects scenes.
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00:18:49,452 --> 00:18:51,212
- Beginning with storyboarding
many of the film's
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00:18:51,371 --> 00:18:53,455
special effects sequences
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00:18:53,540 --> 00:18:56,134
with the help of
art director Mike Minor.
461
00:18:56,293 --> 00:18:58,294
- So I remember clearly
saying to Mike,
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you know, that battle...
- "That battle" would be
463
00:19:00,964 --> 00:19:03,632
the epic final showdown
between the Enterprise...
464
00:19:03,717 --> 00:19:07,228
- There she is!
- And Khan's stolen Reliant.
465
00:19:07,387 --> 00:19:08,721
- We can't whip
these things around
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00:19:08,814 --> 00:19:11,983
like World War I fighter planes.
467
00:19:12,067 --> 00:19:14,727
You know, they're lumbering,
slow moving things.
468
00:19:14,811 --> 00:19:19,407
And I said we need to have
some way to enhance the tension.
469
00:19:19,491 --> 00:19:20,733
(narrator) And the clever
solution proved to be
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right in front of their noses.
471
00:19:23,412 --> 00:19:26,322
- How about if we hid them
in a nebula?
472
00:19:26,406 --> 00:19:29,167
- The gaseous clouds proved
to be the perfect setting
473
00:19:29,251 --> 00:19:31,252
for a spatial chess match.
474
00:19:31,411 --> 00:19:34,246
- My logical conclusion was
to do it in a cloud tank.
475
00:19:34,331 --> 00:19:37,508
- Of course, a cloud tank--
Sorry, what's a cloud tank?
476
00:19:37,593 --> 00:19:40,928
- The cloud tank is basically
a large metal container
477
00:19:41,087 --> 00:19:45,850
with glass panels on each side,
and it's filled with warm water
478
00:19:46,009 --> 00:19:47,843
up to about three quarters
of the way up.
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00:19:47,928 --> 00:19:52,607
Then, insanely, you would lay
a piece of plastic on it
480
00:19:52,691 --> 00:19:55,935
very gently.
- But they were not done yet.
481
00:19:56,028 --> 00:19:58,863
- Then you would gently
pour in cold water
482
00:19:59,022 --> 00:20:00,948
and you would create
an inversion layer.
483
00:20:01,033 --> 00:20:03,117
- Meaning once the clear wrap
was removed,
484
00:20:03,276 --> 00:20:04,860
the two layers would mix,
485
00:20:04,945 --> 00:20:07,622
with lights used
to add cosmic colors.
486
00:20:07,706 --> 00:20:10,541
- And it starts to give almost
a look of thunderheads
487
00:20:10,700 --> 00:20:13,369
or clouds are spreading out,
and there's a nice,
488
00:20:13,462 --> 00:20:16,464
fake sense of a scale
to it when you do that.
489
00:20:16,623 --> 00:20:19,717
- Some of Robert's money saving
ideas for effects were so cheap
490
00:20:19,876 --> 00:20:21,794
they were literally
the garden variety.
491
00:20:21,887 --> 00:20:24,630
- The original script called for
a creature to attach itself
492
00:20:24,723 --> 00:20:26,882
to the back of Chekov's neck.
493
00:20:26,967 --> 00:20:29,310
- But Bob felt they could
do a little better.
494
00:20:29,469 --> 00:20:31,303
- I was going out
to get my newspaper,
495
00:20:31,396 --> 00:20:34,398
I saw a slug.
496
00:20:34,557 --> 00:20:36,642
And I hate those things.
But anyway, I said, hey,
497
00:20:36,735 --> 00:20:39,987
is it feasible that
a little slimy thing like that
498
00:20:40,146 --> 00:20:42,398
could enter the human ear
499
00:20:42,482 --> 00:20:45,409
and lodge itself maybe in
the cerebral cortex?
500
00:20:45,494 --> 00:20:47,495
(narrator)
The answer was yes.
501
00:20:47,579 --> 00:20:50,072
- God's sakes.
- Which was money in the bank for Robert.
502
00:20:50,156 --> 00:20:53,417
- I said, great!
That's when I got so excited.
503
00:20:53,502 --> 00:20:56,996
So I went up to ILM, and I told
Ken Ralston about it.
504
00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,424
- And Ken got to work
crafting Bob's space slug.
505
00:21:00,509 --> 00:21:03,261
- I took a piece of polyfoam,
cut these little--
506
00:21:03,345 --> 00:21:06,255
Little segments in
this thing very delicately,
507
00:21:06,348 --> 00:21:08,432
left a small little thing
in the middle,
508
00:21:08,591 --> 00:21:10,342
so it was flexible,
stuck on their face
509
00:21:10,427 --> 00:21:12,011
and they had
a monofilament line,
510
00:21:12,095 --> 00:21:14,013
and I would just pull.
511
00:21:14,097 --> 00:21:17,850
It would actually do this.
It could be that simple.
512
00:21:17,934 --> 00:21:19,351
- While the slug had
no trouble burrowing
513
00:21:19,444 --> 00:21:21,603
into Chekov and Terrell's heads,
514
00:21:21,688 --> 00:21:23,856
director Nicholas Meyer,
was having a hard time
515
00:21:23,940 --> 00:21:25,524
getting through to Shatner.
516
00:21:25,608 --> 00:21:27,693
- There is a moment in the movie
517
00:21:27,786 --> 00:21:31,030
where he's supposed to give
Khan some information.
518
00:21:31,114 --> 00:21:33,874
- Give me some time to recall
the data on our computers.
519
00:21:33,959 --> 00:21:36,377
- I give you 60 seconds,
Admiral.
520
00:21:36,461 --> 00:21:38,537
(Nicholas) And Kirk has
the line "here it comes."
521
00:21:38,630 --> 00:21:40,622
And the first time Bill says it,
522
00:21:40,707 --> 00:21:42,708
he goes, here it comes...
523
00:21:42,792 --> 00:21:43,968
(crickets chirping)
524
00:21:44,052 --> 00:21:47,805
And I say, Bill,
this guy is supersmart.
525
00:21:47,964 --> 00:21:50,641
- Time is a luxury
you don't have, Admiral.
526
00:21:50,726 --> 00:21:54,395
- If you say that with this,
like, sarcasm dripping off
527
00:21:54,479 --> 00:21:57,315
the lens, just don't
give away the,
528
00:21:57,399 --> 00:21:59,475
you know, what you got
up your sleeve.
529
00:21:59,559 --> 00:22:01,143
(narrator) His star
wouldn't take the note.
530
00:22:01,227 --> 00:22:04,480
- It was still laden.
- But like Captain Kirk himself,
531
00:22:04,573 --> 00:22:05,906
Nick had something up
his sleeve.
532
00:22:05,991 --> 00:22:07,908
- I just kept doing it.
- Time's up.
533
00:22:07,993 --> 00:22:09,568
- That was no good for sound.
534
00:22:09,661 --> 00:22:11,996
- Time's up.
- I'm sorry, we were soft focus.
535
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,822
- Time's up.
- And he got bored.
536
00:22:13,915 --> 00:22:15,908
And look at the end result.
537
00:22:16,001 --> 00:22:18,252
- Here it comes.
538
00:22:18,411 --> 00:22:20,421
Now, Mr. Spock.
539
00:22:20,580 --> 00:22:23,499
- When he became bored
and less aware
540
00:22:23,583 --> 00:22:27,428
of how he was presenting,
he got really good.
541
00:22:27,512 --> 00:22:29,171
- But subtlety went out
the window the day
542
00:22:29,255 --> 00:22:31,766
Ricardo Montalban
arrived on the set.
543
00:22:31,850 --> 00:22:34,259
- We came on, we were doing
the cargo bay sequence,
544
00:22:34,353 --> 00:22:36,103
which introduces Khan.
545
00:22:36,262 --> 00:22:39,431
- And Nick got to thinking about
how he could get his lead star
546
00:22:39,516 --> 00:22:41,442
to really explore the space.
547
00:22:41,601 --> 00:22:46,947
- Wouldn't there be a way to let
him do the whole thing in one go
548
00:22:47,032 --> 00:22:49,775
so he could work up
his own head of steam?
549
00:22:49,868 --> 00:22:52,528
- So Nicolas called action
and gave his star
550
00:22:52,621 --> 00:22:53,954
all the time in the world.
551
00:22:54,039 --> 00:22:56,281
- About nine minutes
without a break.
552
00:22:56,375 --> 00:22:57,792
- He was letter perfect.
553
00:22:57,951 --> 00:23:00,044
- This is Ceti Alpha V!
554
00:23:00,128 --> 00:23:01,712
- I was awestruck.
555
00:23:01,797 --> 00:23:03,964
- I gave him these
23 marks to hit.
556
00:23:04,124 --> 00:23:05,874
He hit every one of them.
557
00:23:05,959 --> 00:23:07,885
- They didn't do a second take,
they didn't have to.
558
00:23:08,044 --> 00:23:11,722
But from then on, Bill and
Leonard's performances elevated.
559
00:23:11,807 --> 00:23:13,974
(laughs)
It was just, just enough.
560
00:23:14,134 --> 00:23:16,477
I don't think anyone else
noticed it,
561
00:23:16,636 --> 00:23:19,063
but I did and it made me smile.
562
00:23:19,222 --> 00:23:21,056
(narrator) But not all egos
could be managed.
563
00:23:21,141 --> 00:23:23,150
Off set,
there were problems too,
564
00:23:23,309 --> 00:23:25,227
where a brooding
Gene Roddenberry
565
00:23:25,311 --> 00:23:29,231
saw his vision of "Star Trek"
being forgotten.
566
00:23:29,315 --> 00:23:33,735
- So he was always pushing back
against things that he felt
567
00:23:33,829 --> 00:23:35,737
weren't true to "Star Trek"
568
00:23:35,831 --> 00:23:37,915
and true to the characters
that he had created.
569
00:23:37,999 --> 00:23:40,576
(David) Harve was
extremely polite to Gene,
570
00:23:40,669 --> 00:23:43,579
and Gene was extremely polite
to Harve Bennett.
571
00:23:43,663 --> 00:23:45,256
(narrator)
At least publicly.
572
00:23:45,415 --> 00:23:48,092
- Gene didn't have
any kind things to say
573
00:23:48,176 --> 00:23:50,085
about Harve Bennett in private.
574
00:23:50,178 --> 00:23:51,595
- He continued to sound off.
575
00:23:51,754 --> 00:23:53,180
(narrator)
Harve was careful not to upset
576
00:23:53,265 --> 00:23:56,258
Gene or his legions
of followers.
577
00:23:56,342 --> 00:23:58,018
- If the two of them
had been any more polite,
578
00:23:58,103 --> 00:23:59,761
there would have been
blood on the floor.
579
00:23:59,846 --> 00:24:02,773
- But Gene's meddling
had already created a monster
580
00:24:02,858 --> 00:24:05,517
Harve Bennett couldn't
possibly control.
581
00:24:05,610 --> 00:24:09,104
The leak about Spock's fate
had fans in open revolt.
582
00:24:09,197 --> 00:24:11,031
- The Spock death rumors
were out there,
583
00:24:11,191 --> 00:24:12,941
and they were gonna
boycott the movie
584
00:24:13,026 --> 00:24:16,287
and boycott the merchandise
and were professional marketers
585
00:24:16,371 --> 00:24:18,372
who had done a professional
marketing campaign
586
00:24:18,531 --> 00:24:21,292
and were spewing statistics
and numbers and dollar amounts.
587
00:24:21,376 --> 00:24:24,044
(narrator) And the clamor
was spilling onto the set.
588
00:24:24,129 --> 00:24:25,963
- I was shocked that
I was holding in my hand
589
00:24:26,122 --> 00:24:28,040
a copy of something
that was going to be
590
00:24:28,133 --> 00:24:31,135
hugely disappointing
to the massive fan base.
591
00:24:31,294 --> 00:24:34,546
(Nicholas) People said,
oh, you can't kill Spock.
592
00:24:34,631 --> 00:24:36,974
And I said, yeah,
you can kill him.
593
00:24:37,058 --> 00:24:40,144
The only question is whether
you kill him well.
594
00:24:45,484 --> 00:24:46,642
(narrator)
With fans threatening a boycott
595
00:24:46,735 --> 00:24:47,902
over rumors of Spock's demise,
596
00:24:47,986 --> 00:24:50,812
Paramount was in an
impossible situation.
597
00:24:50,897 --> 00:24:53,315
- The bottom line was
he wanted out.
598
00:24:53,408 --> 00:24:54,816
They only got him in the movie
599
00:24:54,910 --> 00:24:56,735
promising him a big death scene.
600
00:24:56,819 --> 00:24:59,663
- "Star Trek" was caught
in a conundrum entirely of
601
00:24:59,748 --> 00:25:01,665
its creators own making.
602
00:25:01,750 --> 00:25:03,667
- The only question is
whether you kill him well.
603
00:25:03,826 --> 00:25:05,494
(explosion)
604
00:25:05,587 --> 00:25:07,913
(narrator)
Without element of surprise,
605
00:25:07,997 --> 00:25:10,499
some ingenious sleight of hand
was required.
606
00:25:10,583 --> 00:25:13,585
- You have this scene
where it turns out
607
00:25:13,670 --> 00:25:15,679
the Kobayashi Maru
is a simulation.
608
00:25:15,764 --> 00:25:17,756
- Captain?
609
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,092
- Put that at the beginning,
let the audience see
610
00:25:20,185 --> 00:25:22,844
that Spock dies, oh, that's
what this was all about.
611
00:25:22,938 --> 00:25:23,938
Then you can catch 'em
by surprise
612
00:25:24,097 --> 00:25:25,356
at the end of the picture.
613
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,015
- Aren't you dead?
614
00:25:27,100 --> 00:25:29,610
- It's all just kind of
a setup to to throw us.
615
00:25:29,769 --> 00:25:32,363
(narrator) When it came to
euthanizing his own character,
616
00:25:32,522 --> 00:25:35,282
Leonard Nimoy
was suddenly uneasy.
617
00:25:35,441 --> 00:25:37,284
- That was a major, major,
618
00:25:37,369 --> 00:25:40,696
difficult moment for me,
very difficult.
619
00:25:40,780 --> 00:25:42,447
- I think he was having sort of
jittery feelings
620
00:25:42,532 --> 00:25:45,367
about do I really want to
end this after all?
621
00:25:45,451 --> 00:25:48,796
- This was a big moment,
big enough so that the minute
622
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,291
they do it, Leonard Nimoy starts
having second thoughts.
623
00:25:52,375 --> 00:25:54,468
- And I began to be concerned
624
00:25:54,553 --> 00:25:55,886
that maybe I'd made a mistake.
625
00:25:55,971 --> 00:25:57,546
- Then he was feeling
very sort of
626
00:25:57,639 --> 00:26:00,966
jittery and testy
and nervous about it.
627
00:26:01,050 --> 00:26:02,726
(narrator) But Nimoy had
no qualms about the manner
628
00:26:02,811 --> 00:26:04,895
of Spock's demise.
629
00:26:04,980 --> 00:26:08,473
- Maybe it's fitting that Spock
should die saving the ship
630
00:26:08,558 --> 00:26:10,892
and the crew and be a hero
and go out in a blaze of glory.
631
00:26:10,986 --> 00:26:12,644
(narrator)
This was potentially
632
00:26:12,729 --> 00:26:14,813
the most important
"Star Trek" scene ever.
633
00:26:14,897 --> 00:26:18,066
And everyone knew it--
Well, almost everyone.
634
00:26:18,151 --> 00:26:22,580
- I didn't really understand the
significance to so many people
635
00:26:22,739 --> 00:26:25,499
of what was going on
while we were shooting
636
00:26:25,658 --> 00:26:29,253
until I turn around to see
my cinematographer is crying.
637
00:26:31,414 --> 00:26:33,332
The first AD is crying.
638
00:26:33,425 --> 00:26:35,417
- Don't grieve, Admiral.
639
00:26:35,501 --> 00:26:37,511
- The prop guy is crying.
640
00:26:37,596 --> 00:26:42,850
- The needs of
the many outweigh...
641
00:26:43,009 --> 00:26:45,677
- The needs of the few.
642
00:26:45,770 --> 00:26:48,930
- Or the one.
643
00:26:49,024 --> 00:26:50,515
- And I was just making
the movie.
644
00:26:50,609 --> 00:26:53,777
- Spock...
645
00:26:53,936 --> 00:26:56,697
- Bill and Leonard really
just nailed that.
646
00:26:56,856 --> 00:26:58,690
I mean, there was
sobbing on the set.
647
00:26:58,783 --> 00:27:00,701
I mean, they really got into it.
648
00:27:00,860 --> 00:27:05,864
- I was always very touched by
what happened in that sequence
649
00:27:05,948 --> 00:27:07,791
and it really worked
in the film.
650
00:27:07,876 --> 00:27:10,461
I have people still today who
write me and say every time
651
00:27:10,620 --> 00:27:11,870
I still see that picture
for the fifth,
652
00:27:11,963 --> 00:27:13,130
tenth time, I still cry.
653
00:27:13,214 --> 00:27:15,791
- It was
the perfect end for Spock,
654
00:27:15,884 --> 00:27:18,710
performed to perfection,
except...
655
00:27:18,803 --> 00:27:21,630
- We shot the scene with no film
with no film in the camera.
656
00:27:21,723 --> 00:27:23,724
(laughter)
- You're kidding?
657
00:27:23,883 --> 00:27:25,634
- First time it
ever happened to me
658
00:27:25,718 --> 00:27:28,053
in thousands and thousands
of scenes.
659
00:27:28,137 --> 00:27:32,724
- This is a story about Kirk
coming to terms with himself.
660
00:27:32,817 --> 00:27:34,142
Kirk begins by saying...
661
00:27:34,235 --> 00:27:35,811
- I don't believe in
a no-win scenario.
662
00:27:35,904 --> 00:27:37,655
- Until he's confronted by it.
663
00:27:37,739 --> 00:27:41,066
- It's a story about a man
who ultimately realizes
664
00:27:41,159 --> 00:27:44,411
his fallibility and perhaps
accepts his humanity.
665
00:27:44,496 --> 00:27:46,664
- Death is the no-win scenario.
666
00:27:46,823 --> 00:27:48,999
(narrator) But Paramount
did not accept that.
667
00:27:49,158 --> 00:27:51,493
The studio and producers
had an idea,
668
00:27:51,577 --> 00:27:53,587
a highly controversial one.
669
00:27:53,672 --> 00:27:57,257
- And I, and Harve too,
were very strong
670
00:27:57,417 --> 00:28:02,087
about the fact that we needed
to plant in the audience's minds
671
00:28:02,180 --> 00:28:04,014
the "maybe idea".
672
00:28:04,173 --> 00:28:06,591
- Harve came to me
on the set and he said,
673
00:28:06,676 --> 00:28:10,104
what can you give us
that might be a thread
674
00:28:10,188 --> 00:28:13,857
for the future for Spock
or "Star Trek"?
675
00:28:14,016 --> 00:28:16,601
- Just in case.
- And it took me a moment,
676
00:28:16,686 --> 00:28:18,770
I said I can do a mind meld
on DeForest Kelley,
677
00:28:18,855 --> 00:28:20,856
who's laying there unconscious.
678
00:28:20,940 --> 00:28:24,109
I'm sorry, Doctor, I have no
time to discuss this logically.
679
00:28:24,193 --> 00:28:26,453
And I can say something
ambiguous, like...
680
00:28:26,538 --> 00:28:28,697
Remember.
- They said, okay, do that.
681
00:28:28,781 --> 00:28:32,292
I went, this guy,
this is a producer.
682
00:28:32,377 --> 00:28:37,122
(narrator) This touch of Vulcan logic
from the producers made Spock proud.
683
00:28:37,215 --> 00:28:39,958
But for the director,
they had lost the human emotion.
684
00:28:40,051 --> 00:28:41,051
- Oh, I hated it.
685
00:28:41,210 --> 00:28:43,128
- Nick was adamant.
686
00:28:43,212 --> 00:28:44,796
- I fought it tooth and nail.
687
00:28:44,881 --> 00:28:48,726
We twist these people's
feelings into knots
688
00:28:48,810 --> 00:28:51,228
and then we say,
"oh, just kidding"?
689
00:28:51,312 --> 00:28:54,648
(narrator) Nonetheless, the
door was left open for Spock.
690
00:28:54,733 --> 00:28:57,901
- And they decided they need
a button on the end of the movie
691
00:28:58,060 --> 00:29:01,563
showing the casket
wherever it lands.
692
00:29:01,647 --> 00:29:03,899
- One way or another
Spock would live on.
693
00:29:03,992 --> 00:29:06,151
But not everyone
was happy about it.
694
00:29:06,244 --> 00:29:08,746
- They killed Spock,
they should have left him dead
695
00:29:08,905 --> 00:29:10,655
as hard as that is.
696
00:29:10,749 --> 00:29:12,166
Part of the reason why that
film works is because of
697
00:29:12,325 --> 00:29:14,910
the emotional impact
of Spock's death.
698
00:29:14,994 --> 00:29:16,912
And then at the very end,
they give you the shot of
699
00:29:16,996 --> 00:29:19,581
the coffin that kind
of winks at you
700
00:29:19,665 --> 00:29:21,091
and says actually,
he's going to be back.
701
00:29:21,176 --> 00:29:23,510
And it kind of takes
some of that away.
702
00:29:23,595 --> 00:29:25,170
That said, it's a small quibble
703
00:29:25,263 --> 00:29:28,015
in what is really the best of
the "Star Trek" films.
704
00:29:28,174 --> 00:29:29,925
- Bye, everybody, thank you.
705
00:29:30,009 --> 00:29:31,593
- Paramount couldn't
have been happier,
706
00:29:31,686 --> 00:29:35,189
and when shooting wrapped
on January 29th, 1982,
707
00:29:35,273 --> 00:29:38,099
Bob, Harve, and Nick
delivered a film on schedule.
708
00:29:38,193 --> 00:29:40,110
- And we came in on budget.
709
00:29:40,195 --> 00:29:43,104
- While Nicholas never got his
say on Spock's immortality,
710
00:29:43,189 --> 00:29:46,608
he had at least pulled off
his own little mind meld--
711
00:29:46,692 --> 00:29:48,952
Winning back the faith
of his producer.
712
00:29:49,037 --> 00:29:50,788
- It was a hard thing
to pull off,
713
00:29:55,460 --> 00:29:56,293
(narrator)
"Star Trek", The "Wrath of Khan"
714
00:29:56,377 --> 00:29:58,286
premiered in 1982.
715
00:29:58,371 --> 00:30:01,381
- This was the best "Star Trek"
that I've ever seen before.
716
00:30:01,466 --> 00:30:04,968
(narrator) The death of Spock had
breathed new life into the franchise.
717
00:30:05,053 --> 00:30:07,462
$95 million worth.
718
00:30:07,555 --> 00:30:09,223
- I loved it.
- It was awesome.
719
00:30:09,307 --> 00:30:11,466
I hated part of the ending,
but I understand
720
00:30:11,559 --> 00:30:14,311
that will be remedied
in the next one, right?
721
00:30:14,395 --> 00:30:16,972
- "Star Trek III"
is a possibility.
722
00:30:17,056 --> 00:30:19,224
I think it's
a distinct possibility.
723
00:30:19,317 --> 00:30:21,151
- When we did "Star Trek II",
724
00:30:21,236 --> 00:30:23,987
up until the very final parts,
it was a standalone film.
725
00:30:24,146 --> 00:30:27,399
- Standalone or not, Paramount
now had 95 million reasons
726
00:30:27,492 --> 00:30:29,818
to bring Spock back.
- I am looking forward
727
00:30:29,902 --> 00:30:32,079
to discussing as
soon as possible
728
00:30:32,163 --> 00:30:33,572
the next "Star Trek"
motion picture
729
00:30:33,656 --> 00:30:36,083
and my involvement with it.
730
00:30:36,167 --> 00:30:38,076
- The movie was such a huge hit
731
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,662
that they came back to Nimoy
and said, what would it take
732
00:30:40,746 --> 00:30:42,673
to get you to come back
and do another one?
733
00:30:42,832 --> 00:30:45,175
- And I said, I would like
to direct it.
734
00:30:45,334 --> 00:30:48,262
To my surprise, they didn't
throw me out of the office.
735
00:30:48,346 --> 00:30:50,597
- For a would-be
first time director,
736
00:30:50,682 --> 00:30:53,267
Nimoy had a Vulcan's
cool confidence.
737
00:30:53,351 --> 00:30:57,012
- When we made "Star Trek II",
Nicholas Meyer was directing
738
00:30:57,096 --> 00:30:59,356
and I thought,
I can do what he does.
739
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,349
(narrator) It seemed like
a match made in heaven,
740
00:31:01,434 --> 00:31:05,103
but this was a director arriving
with serious baggage.
741
00:31:05,196 --> 00:31:07,865
- Certain people might have
been a little worried
742
00:31:07,949 --> 00:31:09,524
about Leonard's directing.
743
00:31:09,617 --> 00:31:14,195
- Everybody was like, okay...
744
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,697
(narrator)
Studio head Michael Eisner
745
00:31:15,781 --> 00:31:18,533
wanted Spock in front of
the camera, not behind it.
746
00:31:18,626 --> 00:31:20,544
- He said, I can't have you
direct this movie.
747
00:31:20,628 --> 00:31:22,537
I said, why, Michael?
748
00:31:22,630 --> 00:31:25,206
He said, you hate "Star Trek".
749
00:31:25,300 --> 00:31:28,051
You insisted on the Spock
character being killed
750
00:31:28,136 --> 00:31:29,794
in "Star Trek II,"
751
00:31:29,888 --> 00:31:32,055
you had it in your contract
that Spock had to die.
752
00:31:32,140 --> 00:31:34,308
I can't have your directing
a "Star Trek" movie.
753
00:31:34,467 --> 00:31:37,552
I said, Michael,
this is really crazy.
754
00:31:37,637 --> 00:31:40,555
I don't hate "Star Trek".
That was not in my contract.
755
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,224
And I said the contract
is in a file in the building
756
00:31:43,309 --> 00:31:46,069
that you're in, somebody's
given you bad information.
757
00:31:46,228 --> 00:31:47,646
Take a look at it
and see if you can find
758
00:31:47,730 --> 00:31:48,980
anything like that
in the contract.
759
00:31:49,073 --> 00:31:50,407
It's not there, it's not true.
760
00:31:50,566 --> 00:31:52,317
(narrator)
Whatever was in that contract,
761
00:31:52,410 --> 00:31:56,571
Eisner came back offering Nimoy
a new one as a director.
762
00:31:56,664 --> 00:31:58,916
- And he said, okay,
let's make a deal,
763
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,909
and we immediately made a deal
and went to work.
764
00:32:00,993 --> 00:32:02,669
- With Spock returning
in some form,
765
00:32:02,754 --> 00:32:06,506
Paramount had gained
one Vulcan only to lose another.
766
00:32:06,591 --> 00:32:09,593
After an unhappy experience
on the "Wrath of Khan"...
767
00:32:09,677 --> 00:32:11,920
She didn't seem to be very
comfortable about it.
768
00:32:12,004 --> 00:32:14,172
Kirstie Alley would
not be returning.
769
00:32:14,256 --> 00:32:16,174
- One day, she came
to my dressing room
770
00:32:16,258 --> 00:32:19,594
and she was in absolute tears.
771
00:32:19,679 --> 00:32:21,521
All of a sudden she said to me,
you know what,
772
00:32:21,606 --> 00:32:23,264
if this is what
Hollywood is like,
773
00:32:23,349 --> 00:32:24,358
I don't think I want anything
to do with it.
774
00:32:24,517 --> 00:32:26,276
I think I'm done.
775
00:32:26,435 --> 00:32:29,270
- When invited to reprise
her role as Lieutenant Saavick,
776
00:32:29,355 --> 00:32:32,115
the actresses eyewatering
asking price
777
00:32:32,274 --> 00:32:34,201
sent a clear message
to Paramount.
778
00:32:34,285 --> 00:32:37,028
- This was always an actor's
elegant way of saying
779
00:32:37,121 --> 00:32:38,956
thanks, but no thanks.
780
00:32:39,115 --> 00:32:40,532
- So with Kirstie Alley
stepping aside,
781
00:32:40,625 --> 00:32:43,126
Robin was introduced to Saavick.
782
00:32:43,285 --> 00:32:45,212
- And I was tickled pink,
you know,
783
00:32:45,296 --> 00:32:47,622
to come in
and take over the role.
784
00:32:47,715 --> 00:32:49,958
- Robin relaxed into
the character,
785
00:32:50,051 --> 00:32:52,135
safe in the knowledge
that her director
786
00:32:52,220 --> 00:32:55,222
was the world authority
on all things Vulcan.
787
00:32:55,306 --> 00:32:58,049
- What more expert hands
to be in than Leonard Nimoy
788
00:32:58,134 --> 00:32:59,643
to be directed to play a Vulcan?
789
00:32:59,802 --> 00:33:05,557
He said Vulcans have 1,000 years
of wisdom behind the eyes.
790
00:33:05,641 --> 00:33:08,476
How many have paid the price
for your impatience?
791
00:33:08,561 --> 00:33:14,157
He had this lovely way of gently
kind of guiding me, you know,
792
00:33:14,242 --> 00:33:16,410
to whatever moment it was
that Saavick was having.
793
00:33:16,494 --> 00:33:18,820
- But even a thousand years
of wisdom wouldn't help
794
00:33:18,913 --> 00:33:23,324
Robin work out how to
negotiate Vulcan romance.
795
00:33:23,409 --> 00:33:25,252
- God, I remember the day
Stephen Manley and I
796
00:33:25,411 --> 00:33:29,330
were all... all aflutter
wondering, okay,
797
00:33:29,415 --> 00:33:32,426
what is Vulcan foreplay
going to be?
798
00:33:32,510 --> 00:33:36,763
- Stephen Manley portrayed
a hormone-addled teenage Spock.
799
00:33:36,848 --> 00:33:39,591
(Robin) Because the scene on
the page definitely read that Spock
800
00:33:39,684 --> 00:33:42,427
and Saavick are about to
have this important moment.
801
00:33:42,511 --> 00:33:44,521
- This was the ritual mating
of the Vulcan.
802
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,848
- Pon farr.
803
00:33:46,932 --> 00:33:48,600
Oh, my God, what is this
going to be, you know?
804
00:33:48,693 --> 00:33:51,445
What parts of our bodies are
going to be interacting?
805
00:33:51,529 --> 00:33:53,697
- Luckily for them,
the director was quite familiar
806
00:33:53,781 --> 00:33:55,523
with Vulcan biology.
807
00:33:55,608 --> 00:33:58,443
- And Leonard Nimoy took us
very gently aside,
808
00:33:58,527 --> 00:34:00,203
a very quiet part
of the sound stage
809
00:34:00,362 --> 00:34:02,697
and he took our hands and
he formed them like this.
810
00:34:02,782 --> 00:34:05,283
And he said, you're
just going to gently...
811
00:34:05,367 --> 00:34:07,377
stroke each other like this.
812
00:34:07,536 --> 00:34:10,130
(narrator)
Although it was a bit demure,
813
00:34:10,214 --> 00:34:12,215
it showed just enough to
preserve a little...
814
00:34:12,300 --> 00:34:14,709
- Vulcan mystique.
815
00:34:14,794 --> 00:34:17,462
- My lord, the ship
appears to be deserted.
816
00:34:17,546 --> 00:34:19,389
- How can that be?
- (narrator) The Klingons
817
00:34:19,474 --> 00:34:21,549
may not have been known
for their mystique...
818
00:34:21,634 --> 00:34:23,143
- Oh yeah!
819
00:34:23,227 --> 00:34:24,644
- But with "Taxi's"
Christopher Lloyd
820
00:34:24,804 --> 00:34:28,231
having swapped his furrowed brow
for a Klingon forehead,
821
00:34:28,316 --> 00:34:30,150
they had some star power
in their ranks.
822
00:34:30,309 --> 00:34:32,393
- Five...
- Get out!
823
00:34:32,487 --> 00:34:34,154
- Four...
- Get out of there!
824
00:34:34,238 --> 00:34:35,906
(narrator)
Lloyd's role as Commander Kruge
825
00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:37,824
would see him have a hand
in one of "Star Trek's"
826
00:34:37,983 --> 00:34:40,318
most momentous tragedies.
827
00:34:40,411 --> 00:34:41,912
- We thought, well, let's create
828
00:34:42,071 --> 00:34:44,239
a great death scene
like a great actor would do.
829
00:34:44,323 --> 00:34:46,991
- Perhaps even more traumatic
than the death of Spock,
830
00:34:47,076 --> 00:34:48,752
especially for Gene,
831
00:34:48,836 --> 00:34:51,663
was the demise of
the Enterprise itself.
832
00:34:51,756 --> 00:34:52,831
- He said that's a character.
833
00:34:52,915 --> 00:34:54,424
Audiences love the Enterprise,
834
00:34:54,509 --> 00:34:56,417
that's their home
away from home.
835
00:34:56,502 --> 00:34:59,513
- That's the premise, you know?
It's not me and my friends,
836
00:34:59,597 --> 00:35:01,181
it's these are the voyages of
the Starship Enterprise.
837
00:35:01,265 --> 00:35:02,599
- And you're gonna blow it up?
838
00:35:02,683 --> 00:35:04,425
- But if the ship was
going to go down,
839
00:35:04,510 --> 00:35:07,020
it was going to go down
in a blaze of glory,
840
00:35:07,179 --> 00:35:09,514
thanks to some ILM magic.
841
00:35:09,598 --> 00:35:11,525
- When we got to
the final blow up,
842
00:35:11,684 --> 00:35:14,269
at the last second, I remember,
hey, give me some talcum powder
843
00:35:14,353 --> 00:35:16,354
and I just sprinkled it
on top of the ship.
844
00:35:16,438 --> 00:35:18,773
So when it goes off-- you can
see it in the movie, too--
845
00:35:18,866 --> 00:35:21,284
This interesting sort
of fine stuff comes up...
846
00:35:21,369 --> 00:35:24,279
(explosion)
847
00:35:24,363 --> 00:35:25,956
Which added to the scale of it.
848
00:35:26,115 --> 00:35:28,542
- And made the whole thing
really, really fun to blow up.
849
00:35:28,701 --> 00:35:30,877
- I personally am very hurt
850
00:35:30,962 --> 00:35:32,712
by the destruction
of the Enterprise.
851
00:35:32,797 --> 00:35:35,874
I feel that more deeply than
I did the death of Spock.
852
00:35:35,958 --> 00:35:37,959
- And he wasn't the only one.
853
00:35:38,043 --> 00:35:40,795
- The movie was coming out,
I made a point of saying, well,
854
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,298
I finally got to blow up
that Enterprise ship,
855
00:35:43,391 --> 00:35:44,724
it's such a pain to shoot.
856
00:35:44,884 --> 00:35:47,302
And I got like, death rates.
857
00:35:47,395 --> 00:35:48,970
(narrator)
Welcome to the club.
858
00:35:49,054 --> 00:35:51,389
- It's like, whoa, okay,
no more jokes.
859
00:35:51,482 --> 00:35:53,316
- Whatever fans thought of this,
860
00:35:53,401 --> 00:35:55,235
they loved the film.
861
00:35:55,319 --> 00:35:57,228
"Star Trek: The Search
for Spock" raked in
862
00:35:57,321 --> 00:36:00,982
in a cool $87 million,
863
00:36:01,075 --> 00:36:04,485
essentially guaranteeing
another outing.
864
00:36:04,579 --> 00:36:07,238
- I think this is really
the best "Star Trek" yet.
865
00:36:07,323 --> 00:36:10,825
Leonard Nimoy has turned in,
I think, a magnificent job.
866
00:36:10,910 --> 00:36:12,577
- That point in time felt
like the original cast
867
00:36:12,661 --> 00:36:14,662
was still gonna keep
doing some features.
868
00:36:14,747 --> 00:36:17,424
- Even if Kirk and crew
would need a new ride.
869
00:36:17,508 --> 00:36:19,593
- Jeff Katzenberg
tells Leonard Nimoy,
870
00:36:19,752 --> 00:36:21,428
we want you to make
"Star Trek IV".
871
00:36:21,512 --> 00:36:23,346
(narrator)
Leonard quickly accepted.
872
00:36:23,505 --> 00:36:25,599
But "Star Trek IV"
needed a script,
873
00:36:25,758 --> 00:36:28,602
and Leonard got a story pitch
from an unlikely source.
874
00:36:28,686 --> 00:36:31,271
- Jeffrey Katzenberg calls up
Leonard Nimoy and tells him
875
00:36:31,430 --> 00:36:33,598
I either have what is
the greatest idea of all time
876
00:36:33,691 --> 00:36:35,275
or the worst idea of all time.
877
00:36:35,359 --> 00:36:37,444
- Which was enough to make
Leonard's ears perk up.
878
00:36:37,603 --> 00:36:40,939
- And that idea is Eddie Murphy
has been mentioning how much
879
00:36:41,023 --> 00:36:42,616
of a "Star Trek" fan he is.
880
00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:43,858
- Yeah, I'm a Trekkie.
881
00:36:43,951 --> 00:36:45,443
- Get outta here, I'm a Trekkie.
882
00:36:45,527 --> 00:36:47,287
(narrator)
So a script for "Star Trek IV"
883
00:36:47,371 --> 00:36:49,456
was commissioned featuring
none other than
884
00:36:49,615 --> 00:36:51,699
the biggest star
on the Paramount lot.
885
00:36:51,784 --> 00:36:53,868
- Eddie Murphy was going to
play an English professor
886
00:36:53,953 --> 00:36:55,295
who was a little bit different.
887
00:36:55,379 --> 00:36:56,963
(narrator)
A nutty English professor
888
00:36:57,048 --> 00:37:00,291
who had a thing for
UFOs and whale songs.
889
00:37:00,384 --> 00:37:02,552
- The crew of the Enterprise
searching for whales.
890
00:37:02,711 --> 00:37:04,471
- But unfortunately...
- It just didn't work.
891
00:37:04,555 --> 00:37:06,556
It was too convoluted.
892
00:37:06,641 --> 00:37:09,300
How do you balance out the
comedy with the science fiction?
893
00:37:09,393 --> 00:37:13,471
- But one idea that survived was
the whales, because in 1986,
894
00:37:13,564 --> 00:37:16,057
whales were big.
- About 45 to 50 feet long.
895
00:37:16,141 --> 00:37:18,735
- Bigger than usual.
- Now they need a script.
896
00:37:18,894 --> 00:37:20,737
- And Harve Bennett
agreed to write it,
897
00:37:20,821 --> 00:37:23,982
but he needed help from
an old friend.
898
00:37:24,075 --> 00:37:26,743
(Nicholas) I got an emergency
call saying, help, help.
899
00:37:26,902 --> 00:37:28,411
We had this script,
we threw it out.
900
00:37:28,496 --> 00:37:30,997
We want to start over.
I said, what's the story?
901
00:37:31,082 --> 00:37:32,832
And I remember Leonard's
first words.
902
00:37:32,992 --> 00:37:34,417
He said "something nice".
903
00:37:38,747 --> 00:37:40,006
(narrator)
"Star Trek VI" was still just
904
00:37:40,091 --> 00:37:41,582
a twinkle in director
Leonard Nimoy's eye
905
00:37:41,667 --> 00:37:43,668
but Paramount needed
more than that.
906
00:37:43,761 --> 00:37:46,263
They needed a story
and someone to write it.
907
00:37:46,422 --> 00:37:47,597
- They need it fast.
- Which is nothing new
908
00:37:47,682 --> 00:37:49,424
for this experienced crew.
909
00:37:49,517 --> 00:37:51,259
- Harve Bennett decides
he can write it.
910
00:37:51,343 --> 00:37:52,602
- But he's not going
to do it alone.
911
00:37:52,687 --> 00:37:55,355
He asked for help
from a familiar face.
912
00:37:55,439 --> 00:37:57,357
- And Harve said, I'll write
the outer space parts
913
00:37:57,441 --> 00:37:59,183
and you write the Earth parts.
914
00:37:59,268 --> 00:38:00,685
(narrator)
Producer Harve Bennett and Nimoy
915
00:38:00,769 --> 00:38:02,937
had already devised a story with
916
00:38:03,030 --> 00:38:05,023
all the classic
"Star Trek" ingredients.
917
00:38:05,116 --> 00:38:06,691
Klingons, time travel,
918
00:38:06,775 --> 00:38:08,868
and large water-dwelling
mammals.
919
00:38:09,028 --> 00:38:11,288
- Specifically humpback whales.
920
00:38:11,372 --> 00:38:13,707
- Which are extinct in
the future, yet very necessary.
921
00:38:13,866 --> 00:38:15,616
To ward off an alien probe.
922
00:38:15,710 --> 00:38:17,785
- You're proposing
that we go backwards
923
00:38:17,870 --> 00:38:21,548
in time to find humpback whales,
then bring them forward in time,
924
00:38:21,632 --> 00:38:24,134
drop them off and hope to hell
they tell this probe
925
00:38:24,218 --> 00:38:25,635
what to go do with itself.
926
00:38:25,794 --> 00:38:27,128
- That's the general idea.
- Well, that's crazy.
927
00:38:27,221 --> 00:38:29,130
- You got a better idea?
Now's the time.
928
00:38:29,223 --> 00:38:31,549
- I thought the story
was a little out there.
929
00:38:31,633 --> 00:38:33,634
Like, save the whales? Okay.
930
00:38:33,728 --> 00:38:35,303
(narrator)
But in an early draft,
931
00:38:35,387 --> 00:38:37,314
Spock had much bigger problems
than a whale.
932
00:38:37,473 --> 00:38:39,557
- We would have learned
that Saavick was pregnant
933
00:38:39,641 --> 00:38:42,402
with Spock's child.
934
00:38:42,561 --> 00:38:45,646
(narrator) Which was the offspring
of this encounter with teenage Spock,
935
00:38:45,731 --> 00:38:50,076
arguably modern cinema's
most romantic high-five.
936
00:38:50,235 --> 00:38:52,162
But ultimately,
there was only room
937
00:38:52,321 --> 00:38:54,822
for one Vulcan on this trip
back in time.
938
00:38:54,907 --> 00:38:57,417
- Judging by the pollution
content of the atmosphere,
939
00:38:57,576 --> 00:39:00,420
I believe we have arrived at the
latter half of the 20th century.
940
00:39:00,504 --> 00:39:02,505
- Everybody remember
where we parked.
941
00:39:02,590 --> 00:39:04,665
- And even though
this movie was about whales...
942
00:39:04,750 --> 00:39:06,676
- It was always intended
to be, you know,
943
00:39:06,761 --> 00:39:08,753
a fish out of water story.
944
00:39:08,846 --> 00:39:11,181
- I'm from Iowa,
I only work in outer space.
945
00:39:11,340 --> 00:39:13,099
(Catherine Hicks)
It's ecological, it's relevant.
946
00:39:13,184 --> 00:39:14,517
If you do a "Star Trek" film,
947
00:39:14,676 --> 00:39:16,594
that's the one to do if
you're not into sci-fi.
948
00:39:16,687 --> 00:39:19,180
- It didn't take long
for newcomer Catherine Hicks
949
00:39:19,264 --> 00:39:22,525
to realize she'd have to fight
not only for her whales,
950
00:39:22,684 --> 00:39:25,612
but also for her space in
this crowded film.
951
00:39:25,771 --> 00:39:28,198
- Your friend was messing up my
tanks and messing up my whales.
952
00:39:28,282 --> 00:39:29,524
- They like you very much,
953
00:39:29,617 --> 00:39:31,275
but they are not the hell
"your whales."
954
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,363
- Bill Shatner,
I love him, I swear to God.
955
00:39:35,447 --> 00:39:38,616
But, you know, it's like he
is an annoying brother.
956
00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:40,368
- Like annoying brothers,
957
00:39:40,452 --> 00:39:42,379
he had a habit of
getting in the way.
958
00:39:42,463 --> 00:39:44,464
- He wanted to be in my shot.
I want to single.
959
00:39:44,548 --> 00:39:47,217
I go to Leonard and say
get him out of my shot, Leonard.
960
00:39:47,376 --> 00:39:49,210
- Yeah, speak up.
- She was demanding.
961
00:39:49,303 --> 00:39:50,470
She wanted to know
what's going on now.
962
00:39:50,629 --> 00:39:52,547
As she should.
- (narrator) Once again,
963
00:39:52,631 --> 00:39:56,134
it was the special effects from
ILM that took center stage.
964
00:39:56,227 --> 00:40:00,230
- Got a call both from Leonard
and Harve Bennett begging me
965
00:40:00,314 --> 00:40:01,722
to take the show over.
966
00:40:01,816 --> 00:40:04,725
- After early effects
fell short of the mark.
967
00:40:04,819 --> 00:40:07,478
- It was a 911 call.
- So Ken and his team were
968
00:40:07,571 --> 00:40:09,656
brought in to save the day,
but they had to do it...
969
00:40:09,815 --> 00:40:11,658
- As cheaply as possible.
970
00:40:11,742 --> 00:40:13,401
- Starfleet command,
we're tracking
971
00:40:13,494 --> 00:40:15,412
a probe of unknown origin.
972
00:40:15,496 --> 00:40:18,739
- Ken's first task, fix
the design of the alien probe.
973
00:40:18,824 --> 00:40:20,825
- All I saw was
a big water heater.
974
00:40:20,909 --> 00:40:23,411
- With no time or money
to burn, Ken thought...
975
00:40:23,504 --> 00:40:25,171
- I can't design another ship.
976
00:40:25,256 --> 00:40:26,747
What am I going to do
to hide this thing?
977
00:40:26,832 --> 00:40:28,842
- The solution had two parts.
One...
978
00:40:28,926 --> 00:40:32,762
I painted it glossy black.
- Ahh, much better. And two?
979
00:40:32,847 --> 00:40:34,514
- Lit it in ways where
it kind of came and went.
980
00:40:34,598 --> 00:40:38,176
- Reminiscent of the monolith
in Kubrick's "2001".
981
00:40:38,260 --> 00:40:39,602
- I hoped.
(laughs)
982
00:40:39,687 --> 00:40:41,354
No offense to whoever
designed it.
983
00:40:41,439 --> 00:40:44,441
- But there would be
no hiding the whales.
984
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:45,859
- I remember there was
a guy named Walt Conti
985
00:40:45,943 --> 00:40:48,769
who had designed these whales.
986
00:40:48,863 --> 00:40:51,114
He was able to
remote control them,
987
00:40:51,198 --> 00:40:53,783
and they swam so properly,
988
00:40:53,868 --> 00:40:56,619
I think "National Geographic"
actually called to find out
989
00:40:56,704 --> 00:40:59,456
how we had photographed
real whales like that.
990
00:40:59,540 --> 00:41:01,282
- But there was one scene
that couldn't be done
991
00:41:01,375 --> 00:41:03,451
even with the best animatronics.
992
00:41:03,544 --> 00:41:05,536
(Jay)
It was a sequence that involved
993
00:41:05,621 --> 00:41:08,548
going inside of Kirk's thoughts.
994
00:41:08,707 --> 00:41:11,375
There were these blobby,
liquid-y shapes.
995
00:41:11,460 --> 00:41:13,219
- It turns into this surreal
996
00:41:13,304 --> 00:41:15,546
Ingmar Bergman
something or other.
997
00:41:15,631 --> 00:41:18,975
- And it was even more confusing
than Swedish art house cinema.
998
00:41:19,059 --> 00:41:21,478
- I was trying to do something
artistic and interesting,
999
00:41:21,562 --> 00:41:24,305
but what resulted was more...
- Artsy fartsy.
1000
00:41:24,398 --> 00:41:26,224
Oh, I hated that sequence.
1001
00:41:26,317 --> 00:41:29,819
- Whatever it was, this unlikely
comedic opera of whale song
1002
00:41:29,904 --> 00:41:32,980
and environmental messages
brought a whole new audience
1003
00:41:33,065 --> 00:41:38,402
to "Star Trek", raking in
$133 million worldwide.
1004
00:41:38,487 --> 00:41:40,738
- "Star Trek IV" is really
a crossover movie.
1005
00:41:40,831 --> 00:41:44,584
A lot of fans who are starting
to show their new girlfriend
1006
00:41:44,668 --> 00:41:47,328
or boyfriend "Star Trek",
you start with "Star Trek IV".
1007
00:41:47,412 --> 00:41:51,916
- It's the least "Star Trek-y"
of all the "Star Trek" movies.
1008
00:41:52,009 --> 00:41:54,260
- You're very perceptive.
And that's just good writing.
1009
00:41:54,345 --> 00:41:55,920
That's good writing
and good storytelling
1010
00:41:56,004 --> 00:41:58,589
on Harve Bennett's
and Nick Meyer's part.
1011
00:41:58,682 --> 00:42:01,684
- Thanks in part to the whales,
Nimoy went on to have
1012
00:42:01,843 --> 00:42:03,853
a whale of a time
directing hit comedies.
1013
00:42:04,012 --> 00:42:07,598
- And that run of II, III,
and IV worked so well
1014
00:42:07,683 --> 00:42:09,442
creatively and commercially,
1015
00:42:09,601 --> 00:42:11,277
it's almost like
a foregone conclusion
1016
00:42:11,362 --> 00:42:13,112
that this is now a franchise.
1017
00:42:13,197 --> 00:42:17,275
- Ironically, "Star Trek's"
greatest silver screen triumph
1018
00:42:17,368 --> 00:42:18,618
would lead the franchise back
1019
00:42:18,777 --> 00:42:21,704
to its humble origins
in television.
1020
00:42:21,863 --> 00:42:24,624
- 1986, "Voyage Home"
is a huge hit
1021
00:42:24,783 --> 00:42:27,460
and the local station's saying,
1022
00:42:27,545 --> 00:42:29,870
guys, can you please
do something?
1023
00:42:29,955 --> 00:42:32,966
We've had these same damn
little 80 one-hour episodes
1024
00:42:33,050 --> 00:42:36,386
we've been showing
for 15 years now.
1025
00:42:36,470 --> 00:42:38,805
But if you would just make
some more "Star Trek" for us
1026
00:42:38,889 --> 00:42:41,048
on TV, we'd all make more money.
1027
00:42:41,133 --> 00:42:44,310
- And it's within several months
of the film's success
1028
00:42:44,395 --> 00:42:45,803
that they announce,
really announced that
1029
00:42:45,887 --> 00:42:48,731
"Next Generation" is going
to be a reality.83818
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